thatchlaunchpad vcs-import question -- is two days longer than expected for a relatively simple sync to be in "Processing?"00:02
thatchhttps://launchpad.net/enblend/trunk is the relevant url00:03
mwhudsonthatch: not necessarily if it's a big branch00:04
mwhudsonthatch: it failed though :/00:05
thatcha new meaning of Processing I wasn't aware of? ;)00:05
mwhudsonthatch: like this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6642/00:06
mwhudsonthatch: we're currently working hard at replacing all this infrastructure to make a great deal more sense...00:06
thatchmwhudson: is it anything that I've configured wrong and could fix myself (I notice that it lists revs in MAIN, but I left it at HEAD assuming it was automagic having not used cvs for anything much)00:10
mwhudsonthatch: oh hang on00:10
mwhudsonthe import details are wrong, we want to be importing the 'MAIN' branch00:11
mwhudson('HEAD' is something else)00:11
* mwhudson fixes00:11
thatchthanks mwhudson, take your time00:11
mwhudsonthatch: import is running again00:12
clskhm launchpad doesn't provide mailing lists, does it?00:45
LaserJockclsk: it does for Launchpad teams yes00:46
LaserJockclsk: it's just been released within the last month00:46
clskWhat about an open mailing list?00:47
LaserJockclsk: as in anybody can email to it?00:48
LaserJockI'm not sure if that's an option or not00:51
thumperclsk: I have a feeling that it does, but with first post moderation00:52
thumperclsk: but I'm not entirely sure00:53
LaserJockhttps://help.launchpad.net/Teams/MailingLists says that posts from non-team members are discarded00:53
LaserJockbut I'm pretty sure that it's in the works to allow it00:54
LaserJockif it isn't already as thumper said00:54
thumperLaserJock: thanks00:54
mwhudsonthatch: the import succeeded at last00:55
thatchmwhudson: thanks again!00:59
corevetteis there a way you can find the total history of a user?  marking as duplicates, comments, etc?01:17
beunodid launchpad just die horribly?01:26
beunoah, it's back01:27
* beuno breaths01:27
beunoaaaaand, it;s dead again01:28
beunohmmmm, I'm having problems with all Ubuntu websites....  :/01:37
Zelutcan anyone tell me the magic behind uploading a package to my PPA?02:27
xtknightZelut, See PPA Quick Start03:19
Hobbseewhy can't i rescore a gutsy build now?03:34
Hobbseemeh.   i'm sick of receiving java bugs.04:25
Hobbseealthough, i could unmark it as a dupe, mark it invalid, write on the bug "THIS IS A DUPE, BUT I'M SICK OF THE BUGMAIL.  PLEASE DO NOT REMARK AS A DUPE"04:25
Hobbseeand that might stop the bugmail.04:25
Hobbseeoh, hmm, it's actually on the duped bug.04:29
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pooliei'm aware of a problem with filing or editing bugs giving oopses; i'm escalating it05:08
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ubotuLaunchpad bug 62230 in xorg-server "Corrupt graphics on boot with 7800GT/nv" [Unknown,Confirmed] 05:32
xtknightwhy does it say confirmed for X org X server05:32
xtknightthe freedesktop bug says New right?05:32
LaserJockhuh, I'm not having any problems with Malone05:34
LaserJockxtknight: huh?05:35
xtknightLaserJock, X.Org X server     [edit]  Confirmed 05:35
xtknightit shuold say New?05:35
xtknightStatus:  NEW on the freedesktop link05:35
LaserJockI see "Confirmed" and "Triaged"05:36
LaserJockand there's not a correlation between tasks05:37
xtknighti thought 'x.org x server' correlated with the freedesktop bug05:37
LaserJockit can be Confirmed in Ubuntu and New upstream05:37
LaserJockoh, right, yeah05:37
LaserJockwell, I supposed you could put it as New unless somebody put it as Confirmed for a reason05:38
LaserJocksome bug trackers don't automatically update the status05:39
xtknightoh well i'm not complaining, confirmed looks good05:39
LaserJockxtknight: what's odd about it?05:40
xtknightbecause the freedesktop tracker says New.  i dont' understand why launchpad thinks that's Confirmed05:40
xtknighti added that freedesktop tracker as a link05:40
xtknightam i missing someihng?05:40
ubotuFreedesktop bug 15411 in Driver/nVidia (open) "7800GT and nv driver, crashing/corruption after gdm login" [Major,New]  - Assigned to aplattner@nvidia.com05:41
xtknightthis says New05:41
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LaserJockxtknight: what I'ms saying is that somebody could have changed it to Confirmed in Launchpad05:43
xtknightLaserJock, i see.  wouldn't it be on the activity log?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nv/+bug/62230/+activity05:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 62230 in xorg-server "Corrupt graphics on boot with 7800GT/nv" [Unknown,Confirmed] 05:43
LaserJockI would think so, but sometimes things aren't in there05:44
xtknightah well05:44
LaserJockI'm just saying that often times the status is out of sync05:44
LaserJockthough usually it would be the other way around05:44
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mptGooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!08:00
ubotuNew bug: #198936 in soyuz "Regression: Backports should ignore main-universe split" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19893608:21
ubotuNew bug: #214461 in malone "Supply the error message to BugWatchUpdateWarning" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21446108:21
ubotuNew bug: #214462 in malone "Supply the remote status when raising UnknownRemoteStatus" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21446208:21
ubotuNew bug: #214464 in malone "Set the URL to the bug tracker to bug when reporting an oops in checkwatches" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21446408:25
Hobbseegood morning mpt!08:32
ion_mpt-get update08:33
mptThat reminds me, I need to upgrade to Hardy08:33
pooliehello mpt, Hobbsee 08:42
Hobbseehey poolie!08:44
ubotuNew bug: #214476 in launchpad-buildd "open-iscsi fails to install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21447609:01
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jmehdithe LP translation features work only with .po files? I have an app with complex xml files which contain translatable strings, how could I manage that on LP?10:58
kikojmehdi, well, we do support firefox translations, which are also XML11:33
kikojmehdi, however, you're better off converting from your format to .po/.pot and back11:33
jmehdi is that what you do for Firefox?11:34
kikowell, FF is really complicated, so we wrote a native importer. but it's non-trivial work, and most people just convert to/from FF11:35
jmehdikiko, ok thanks11:37
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ubotuNew bug: #214572 in malone "bug reporters should be told to check on their bug from time to time" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21457213:35
profoX`Hi. My ubuntu.com-address seems to be broken. What could be the cause for this? And how is the forward address chosen? My ubuntu.com address used to be forwarded to my GMail address, probably because that used to be my primary address on Launchpad, but I changed my Launchpad e-mail to the ubuntu.com one a long time ago.. could this be causing problems now?13:48
HobbseeprofoX`: if your'e forwarding yoru @ubuntu.com address to your @ubuntu.com address, yes, it breaks.13:48
HobbseeprofoX`: it's chosen by the first preferred contact address listed on LP13:49
profoX`Hobbsee: okay.. then that's the cause.. weird.. because I've had the ubuntu.com address listed there for a very long time (months) and only now the last few weeks it's causing problems13:49
Hobbseeit's been known to cause problems for a while13:50
profoX`ok.. I changed it again. How long should it take for the change to take effect?13:50
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* Hobbsee eyes these tags14:27
Hobbseehwo do i say "only show me tags on these side panel that are used in the bugs belonging to this source package?14:28
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FujitsuHobbsee: You hold a Launchpad developer for ransom.14:32
HobbseeFujitsu: ahhh.  So, who's up for being held as ransom?14:32
* mpt volunteers allenap14:32
* allenap hastily reads backwards to try and discover my fate14:33
mptfixing bug 6684114:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 66841 in malone "Accompany bug listing with list of tags used in those bugs" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6684114:33
allenapmpt: Sounds interesting :)14:37
allenapBjornT: I've been nominated to do bug 66841. Looks interesting, but how does it fit with plans as they are?14:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 66841 in malone "Accompany bug listing with list of tags used in those bugs" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6684114:37
BjornTallenap: sadly it doesn't fit into 2.0. improving tags is on the list todo, though, but atm i don't know when we will spend time on it. that bug is just one of many that needs to be fixed.14:41
allenapBjornT: Okay, I'll leave it unassigned then. Sorry mpt, Hobbsee.14:43
Hobbseeah.  oh well.14:43
Hobbseeallenap: no problem.  I hadn't gotten my hopes up.14:43
mptNeither had I :-)14:45
Hobbseempt: is there any point reporting a typo?14:46
HobbseeYou can only duplicate to bugs that are not duplicates themselves. 14:46
intellectronicaHobbsee: sure there is a point. feel free to subscribe me to the bug14:48
Hobbseeintellectronica: i haven't reported it. 14:50
intellectronicaHobbsee: feel free to subscribe to the bug after you've reported it ;)14:50
Hobbseeintellectronica: i prefer not to.  I hate seeing typo bugs waiting 3+ months to get fixed, for a one line change.14:51
Hobbseesorry :(14:51
mptHobbsee, probably a jargon bubble rather than a typo14:52
Hobbseempt: it's incorrect, grammar-wise.14:52
intellectronicaHobbsee: ok. my intention was to fix it immediately. anyway, if you tell me where you found the typo i'll file the bug14:52
mpt(someone thinking of "duplicate" as an intransitive verb)14:52
Hobbseeintellectronica: oh right14:52
Hobbseeintellectronica: it's on the marking a bug as a duplicate, when it's already a duplicate of another bug14:52
Hobbseeer, when the bug you're going to mark the original bug is a dupe of, is a dupe of another bug already.14:53
Hobbseemorning mrevell 14:53
mrevellhey Hobbsee14:53
mptso, use singular rather than plural14:55
mptuse "mark a bug as duplicate" rather than "duplicate to"14:55
mptand push the word "only" as late as possible for least ambiguity14:55
mptso, "You can mark a bug report as duplicate only of one that isn't a duplicate itself."14:56
ubotuNew bug: #214608 in malone "Typo (or bad grammar) when attmepting to makr a bug as duplicate of another duplicate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21460815:11
Hobbseeoh, the irony :)15:12
Hobbseeintellectronica: tyop in the bug report about a typo in launchpad.15:12
intellectronicaheh :)15:13
intellectronicamore than one, even15:13
ubotuNew bug: #214612 in soyuz "Provide pdiffs for apt-get update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21461215:15
Hobbseeooh, nice.15:16
FujitsuThat's a lot of diffs. I presume that's part fo the reason it hasn't been implemented.15:17
FujitsuAs we have about 24 times more of them.15:17
elmopdiffs are also often a massive pessmisation15:17
Hobbseei didn't think the package lists were that big, anyway15:17
elmomaking them available is one thing, turning them on by default is quite another15:17
Hobbseecompared to packages15:17
FujitsuHobbsee: universe is several megabytes.15:18
* cprov hides in his cave.15:18
Fujitsuelmo: How would they degrade speed?15:18
* Fujitsu drags cprov out.15:18
elmoFujitsu: because assembling them is extremely expensive15:18
HobbseeFujitsu: i forget.  I must have been working with kde stuff for far too long.15:18
FujitsuHobbsee: Haha.15:18
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HobbseeFujitsu: where the packages are *substantially* bigger than the package lists :)15:18
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Hobbseecprov: no hiding.  We're not cursing the innards of soyuz today.15:19
FujitsuWhen you're on a stable release, apt-get updating once a day is probably uselessly expensive.15:19
elmoFujitsu: eh?15:19
elmoFujitsu: it's a bunch of HEAD requests15:19
elmoit's extremely cheap, both for the server and the client15:19
Fujitsu-updates and -security can get fairly large, and -security is updated often...15:20
elmo128K    universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz15:21
elmo192K    main/binary-i386/Packages.gz15:21
elmoactually, I think we default to .bz2 which is even smaller15:21
FujitsuWhich distroseries?15:21
FujitsuHm. I thought it was larger. But maybe it wasn't using the gzipped one for some reason.15:21
elmoI was responding to your -security is updated often line15:21
Hobbseeelmo: dapper-updates is similar?15:22
Fujitsu-updates should be a tad bigger.15:22
FujitsuAs it should be a superset of -security, except for the latest stuff.15:22
elmo268K    dapper-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz215:22
elmo116K    dapper-updates/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz215:22
* Fujitsu heads to bed.15:28
FujitsuNight all.15:28
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ubotuNew bug: #214629 in soyuz "Binary package page overuses <h2>" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21462915:51
jmehdiHi, I requested a mailing list 10 days ago and still nothing... :( How long does it take to approve a mailing list?15:58
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fgiraldeauHi there, I would like to delete a project in launchpad16:29
fgiraldeausince it will be hold under another project16:30
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komputesSteveA: ping17:42
komputessmall typo on https://help.launchpad.net/BetaTesting17:43
komputesIf you're a beta testers and you visit the normal launchpad.net production environment17:43
komputesIf you're a beta tester and you visit the normal launchpad.net production environment17:43
intellectronicakomputes: guess what ... it's a wiki ;)17:45
intellectronicakomputes: anyway ... fixed. thanks for catching this17:46
komputesintellectronica: yeah, for some reason it's telling me i'm not logged in17:47
komputesbut i assure you i'm logged in and have 10 launchpad tabs open17:47
intellectronicakomputes: really? strange...17:48
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synicis there some text you can put in bug comments that will automatically create a link to bzr revisions?18:02
synickinda like "bug 234324" does, but with the VCS18:02
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ubotuNew bug: #214710 in malone "no link to bug page from comments page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21471019:01
nandhi! Anybody from LP knows if the mailing list system is working?19:08
nandI have requested one three days ago. I may just be a little impatient though :)19:08
jmehdinand, I requested mine 10 days ago and still no news....19:11
nandjmehdi: damn. Either they are set a quota, and we have to wait, or they have some problems.19:13
matsubarajmehdi, nand: which teams? I'll ask the mailing list admins19:14
nandmatsubara: brainstorm-dev, for Ubuntu Brainstorm19:14
jmehdimatsubara: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntume.team19:15
andrea-bsfor my team it says "This team's mailing list will be available within a few minutes." since last week19:17
matsubarajmehdi, nand: I think you're being affected by bug 208431.19:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 208431 in launchpad "OOPS trying to subscribe to inactive mailing list" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208431 - Assigned to Barry Warsaw (barry)19:26
matsubarathat's fixed and hopefully will be on lpnet today. sorry for the inconvenience.19:27
matsubaraactually, you're affected by the collateral damage explained by barry in the comments, not exactly the OOPS described in the description.19:28
nandmatsubara: oh, ok! Thanks for the quick reaction!19:30
nandmatsubara: shall we cancel the subscription meanwhile?19:31
matsubaraI don't think that's necessary. the mailing list should just become active once the bug hits lpnet19:32
matsubaras/the bug/the bug fix/19:32
barrynand: matsubara is right19:33
nandok, cool, thanks for the fast answers19:34
timinghey guys20:27
timingwouldn't it be cool to add a "paste as attachment" textarea at the commenting system?20:28
timingbecause everytime i want to add a patch i have to download the remotely developed file to my local desktop and upload it from here, while i can as well add a bit to my clipboard and paste it as patch20:29
newz2000hi kiko21:19
fgiraldeauhi kiko, is it possible to delete the project ltsp-loadbalancer ?21:24
fgiraldeausince it will be hold under another project21:24
kikofgiraldeau, huh? you can add projects to project groups.21:25
fgiraldeauok, that could be done, you're right21:25
fgiraldeauIt does more management, but it's ok. Thanks. 21:26
fgiraldeauI must leave. Take care ;)21:26
patrysanyone here aware of how often admins check the launchpad related questions? not sure if it's days or weeks21:38
RainCTI might have already asked it but, is there some way to get the launchpad name of someone knowing only his email address?21:41
thumperRainCT: does it work if you search for a person using the email address?22:01
RainCTthumper: hm.. yes, would work, but that isn't the ideal solution22:06
thumperRainCT: what exactly are you after?22:07
RainCTas it's for a cronjob that would need to check somewhat like 100 mails every day22:07
RainCTthumper: it's for MoM, btw22:09
RainCTthumper: merges.ubuntu.com22:11
thumperRainCT: there will be soon but I can't give a firm ETA22:11
RainCTthumper: what is "soon", aprox?22:12
thumperRainCT: > 2 weeks, < 3 months22:13
RainCTthumper: ok, thanks22:13
RainCTgood night22:16
ubotuNew bug: #210535 in launchpad "untrue information in project overview" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21053523:02
yeagermdke: when will you start build the edubuntu-docs package?23:08
yeagermdke: i have a file in the import queue for the Swedish edubuntu handbook23:09
mdkeyeager: I don't think the edubuntu handbook is being shipped in hardy, but I don't take care of that package - LaserJock can tell you more23:10
mdkeyeager: #ubuntu-docs is the best channel for this sort of thing23:10
yeagermdke: ok, thanks!23:10
ubotuNew bug: #214843 in launchpad "Cycles in team data kill mailing lists" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21484323:41

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