| === elkbuntu_ is now known as elkbuntu | ||
| cody-somerville | _MMA_, How is Ubuntu Studio coming? | 14:35 |
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| _MMA_ | Well. :) I just tested today's daily. | 14:35 |
| kwwii | hi all | 14:50 |
| kwwii | http://sinecera.de/kuti_heron_tweak-new1.png | 14:51 |
| kwwii | an improved wallpaper? | 14:51 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: check that out and let me know what you think | 14:55 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: OMG! Who shot the chicken? It's so bloody. | 14:55 |
| kwwii | :p | 14:55 |
| kwwii | long live the ubuntu chicken | 14:55 |
| _MMA_ | :P | 14:55 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: It's fine with me in any case. | 14:56 |
| savvas | kwwii: that chicken should be de-centralised :P | 15:17 |
| savvas | i mean, it should be at the right corner, just as the original one :) | 15:18 |
| kwwii | savvas: we had a problem with the chicken being cut off on the right side | 15:20 |
| kwwii | as it is not 4:3 on some peoples monitor the zoom effect cuts off the right side | 15:20 |
| DanaG | Chicken? | 15:23 |
| DanaG | Hmm, I hadn't heard it called that before. | 15:23 |
| DanaG | One thing I would like to see: the other (red-crested) design from "remix-more-polish" on the wiki. | 15:24 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, and you will be tweaking the GDM theme a bit more, right? | 15:25 |
| kwwii | the thing is that we are also printing t-shirts with this stuff so it has to be done in an hour or so | 15:25 |
| kwwii | and final freeze is tomorrow | 15:26 |
| DanaG | Wow. | 15:26 |
| DanaG | It just seems odd to me to have two of the three coil-thingies be the same orange color. | 15:27 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: I think the whole thing should be brown. | 15:28 |
| _MMA_ | No Blue. | 15:28 |
| _MMA_ | No green. | 15:28 |
| andreasn | _MMA_: gold | 15:28 |
| _MMA_ | :P | 15:29 |
| DanaG | I like orange. | 15:29 |
| _MMA_ | I like apples. | 15:29 |
| _MMA_ | The heart of the matter. ^^^ | 15:29 |
| andreasn | the color of dreams | 15:29 |
| andreasn | and a scent of children tears | 15:29 |
| DanaG | Huh? | 15:29 |
| _MMA_ | hahahahahaha | 15:29 |
| DanaG | To me, the red where it is still looks a bit bad. | 15:30 |
| savvas | kwwii: hm.. actually i had that problem as well, can't we manipulate svg to get a proper output for wide screens and normal ones? | 15:30 |
| DanaG | And what's with the floaty dots? | 15:30 |
| DanaG | I've actually come to like the (brown) background just fine, though. | 15:31 |
| _MMA_ | Floaty dots are the new aqua pill. ;) | 15:32 |
| kwwii | I think that i should just leave it as is :p | 15:33 |
| kwwii | less work for me | 15:33 |
| DanaG | Just changing colors? There was a source for the other heron. | 15:34 |
| kwwii | i do like the red crested chicken though | 15:34 |
| DanaG | That's the one. | 15:34 |
| _MMA_ | mmm.... | 15:34 |
| DanaG | Heron, chicken, whatever. It's an abstract bird -- it looks pretty snazzy no matter what you call it. But that IS the first time I'd heard it called a chicken. | 15:34 |
| * _MMA_ wants some buffalo wings. | 15:35 | |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, is the current wallpaper a png or an svg? If it's svg, I can just tweak the background color myself. | 15:35 |
| DanaG | Heh, I didn't initially know that "buffalo" == "spicy" -- so one day I had a "Buffalo Chicken" pizza slice, and was surprised when it was quite spicy. It was good, though. | 15:37 |
| cody-somerville | The exact same bird thing is at a local restaurant here | 15:43 |
| * DanaG wants red-crested birf. | 16:08 | |
| kwwii | I am really bad at drawing birf's | 16:09 |
| * andreasn read "barfing birds" there for a moment | 16:10 | |
| DanaG | Yo, there's a source for that one already. | 16:11 |
| DanaG | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Fela_Kuti?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=source.tar.bz2 | 16:11 |
| kwwii | which one is that? | 16:14 |
| DanaG | source for remix-more-polish.png | 16:14 |
| DanaG | You can grab the heron from there. The source is svg, I believe. | 16:14 |
| _MMA_ | At this point, there's no need to touch it. Unless there's an extension like Dapper. Too close to final. | 16:16 |
| DanaG | It does look odd having two of the three spiral thingies be orange. | 16:17 |
| kwwii | I do not think that such a drastic change one day before the final freeze is a good idea | 16:20 |
| * _MMA_ thinks we should just all switch to Macs and be done with it. | 16:21 | |
| cody-somerville | But Macs are easy to hack :( | 16:53 |
| _MMA_ | hehe | 16:54 |
| _MMA_ | Only with Flash installed right? | 16:54 |
| troy_s | <kwwii> savvas: we had a problem with the chicken being cut off on the right side | 17:11 |
| troy_s | <kwwii> as it is not 4:3 on some peoples monitor the zoom effect cuts off the right side | 17:11 |
| troy_s | Then compose two perhaps? | 17:11 |
| troy_s | Center punching option shouldn't even be on the table -- that's more mooky than mooky. | 17:11 |
| troy_s | kwwii: How was it getting chopped? | 17:12 |
| _MMA_ | troy_s: It might end up being a space on the disk issue as well. | 17:13 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: I don't know what to say. Centre punching is worse than worse. | 17:14 |
| kwwii | troy_s: it is a mix of scaling and cropping to keep the aspect ratio | 17:14 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: With the more nerfed tones the composition is already put on the hairy edge. | 17:14 |
| _MMA_ | I know you don't like it but it servers 2 purposes. 1) Saves space. 2) Maintains aspect across desktops. Though, like you said, isnt the optimal thing. | 17:14 |
| kwwii | not in the svg but in the zoom desktop background thing | 17:14 |
| troy_s | kwwii: Zoom is not allowing the chicken to stay on the screen? | 17:15 |
| _MMA_ | *serves | 17:15 |
| kwwii | hrm, maybe the chicken is just shy | 17:15 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Sure. Aware. | 17:15 |
| kwwii | the is one smart chicken | 17:15 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Centre punching is just not an option and shouldn't be. | 17:15 |
| kwwii | s/the/that | 17:15 |
| troy_s | kwwii: I can only imagine that hte bird would get chopped in what -- less than .05% of installs? | 17:16 |
| troy_s | kwwii: Is there a bug report? | 17:16 |
| kwwii | troy_s: actually, as the pic is not in 4:3 ration I guess a lot of them get cut off | 17:17 |
| _MMA_ | troy_s: So you saying most have 4:3 screens? .95? | 17:17 |
| troy_s | kwwii: Whoever's decision that is should be shot. Centre punching is a dead giveaway to complete mooka palooka. | 17:17 |
| _MMA_ | hahahah | 17:18 |
| _MMA_ | So is using brown. | 17:18 |
| _MMA_ | Wait. | 17:18 |
| _MMA_ | Orange. | 17:18 |
| _MMA_ | No Blue. | 17:18 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Zoom shouldn't be shifting it that much. And even if it were, perhaps there is an option by making the bird larger and letting it clip a little. | 17:18 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Composition has been around a while. I'd suggest that it isn't exactly abstract suggestion. | 17:19 |
| troy_s | ;) | 17:19 |
| * _MMA_ downloads the bloddy chicken. | 17:19 | |
| troy_s | _MMA_: There are tomes written on the matter. So uh... :P | 17:19 |
| _MMA_ | Actually, the new image is fine. It's almost center on 4:3. kwwii: It's fine. I'd ship it. | 17:21 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: *sigh* | 17:21 |
| _MMA_ | There's no way its getting clipped. | 17:21 |
| _MMA_ | Which was the issue. | 17:22 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Why is that an issue? | 17:22 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: I'll go on record saying that centre punching is at least as bad if not worse than clipping. It is absolutely mookie as hell. | 17:22 |
| _MMA_ | Don't know. Just what someone said. "savvas: we had a problem with the chicken being cut off on the right side" | 17:22 |
| _MMA_ | It's not being cut off. | 17:22 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: This is getting to be worse than bad TV. | 17:22 |
| kwwii | let's get out the boxing gloves | 17:23 |
| * _MMA_ goes to watch "The midget bachelor". | 17:23 | |
| troy_s | kwwii: Naw. It's just so extremely unfortunate that Ubuntu can't even get decent composition with its delivery. | 17:24 |
| kwwii | well, we are slowly getting there | 17:24 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Hand the kid the source .svg (the one from the PNG above) and let him tinker with the composition. | 17:24 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: There is no solution | 17:25 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: As I said before | 17:25 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: But you can only ship 1 image. | 17:25 |
| _MMA_ | bah | 17:25 |
| _MMA_ | Meat for Troy. ^^ | 17:25 |
| _MMA_ | damn! | 17:25 |
| * _MMA_ cant type. | 17:25 | |
| troy_s | _MMA_: It is _impossible_ to compose for two different aspect ratios. That said, Let the fscking bird get clipped slightly. | 17:25 |
| _MMA_ | troy_s: Soooo.... grab Kens current SVG and do what you will. | 17:26 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Either that or some up with some sort of float scenario... Unless there is a clever way lurking in the corner. | 17:26 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Maybe you didn't read that. | 17:26 |
| _MMA_ | Compose for widescreen and see how the 4:3 get's chopped. | 17:26 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: How the heck do you get anything close to Phi on two photos that have different aspects without a float? | 17:26 |
| kwwii | I think I should find the nastiest ugly curve thing and replace the heron with it | 17:27 |
| _MMA_ | troy_s: *If* we could to backgrounds like we do GDM it would be great. | 17:27 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Yeah... thought. | 17:27 |
| troy_s | kwwii: Go with it. | 17:27 |
| troy_s | kwwii: Put that sad and unfortunate thing known as OpenSUSE background in there. | 17:27 |
| troy_s | kwwii: And colortone it brown. | 17:28 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Honestly... I can't think of a way to have it on a 'non-clip'. | 17:28 |
| _MMA_ | troy_s: But you're still avoiding grabbing the SVG and composing for widescreen regardless of how 4:3 will get cropped. :P | 17:28 |
| * _MMA_ wonders if an xml would even work. | 17:29 | |
| * _MMA_ tests. | 17:29 | |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Guy I have dicked with that chicken a _little_. | 17:29 |
| _MMA_ | Sure. | 17:29 |
| _MMA_ | We're here now talking. :P | 17:29 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: I just can't think of a way. It isn't about dicking. | 17:29 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: And I am also simultaneously getting ready to go to my dental appointment you ass. | 17:29 |
| troy_s | lol | 17:29 |
| _MMA_ | Ten why give shit if even you cant think of a way around? :) | 17:29 |
| _MMA_ | hahahahhaha | 17:29 |
| * _MMA_ steals the Doc's pain meds. | 17:30 | |
| _MMA_ | s/Ten/Then | 17:31 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: I said just leave it then... let it clip. This isn't some sort of security camera. | 17:33 |
| _MMA_ | Looks like the only XML file it likes is one that defines all the wallpaper fading. | 17:33 |
| _MMA_ | troy_s: Yeah. After givin' some shit about it. :P | 17:34 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: The issue is not whether or not we have a solution as the _END USER_ will care not, and after watching close to proper composition even on Saturday morning cartoons and commercials selling rubber frutiy-o's, will _perceive_ mookie | 17:34 |
| _MMA_ | It's just not a great solution all around. | 17:34 |
| _MMA_ | Notmuch anyone can do if only 1 image can be shipped. | 17:34 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Agreed. The question would be what is the less - more - worse - perception. | 17:34 |
| _MMA_ | But even then, the 4:3 will be set and look like ass for 16:9/10 screens. | 17:35 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: And in this instance, I would vote that centre punching - with the desaturated background pulling the visual flow even more toward the bird, is _possibly_ worse. | 17:35 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: On both actually... which is the point. | 17:35 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: And even a quick perusal of say, BestBuy in the LCD section shows ... well not a lot of 4:5 screens. | 17:35 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: But alas. This is probably all in vein as oddsmakers in Vegas have the bets placed already. | 17:36 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Anyways, moving onto more productive things -- did you get your chore done? | 17:36 |
| _MMA_ | The best solution would to be able to make XML wallpapers. | 17:36 |
| _MMA_ | troy_s: Yes. Sent off. | 17:37 |
| _MMA_ | We'll see what comes of it. | 17:37 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Oh and if DanaG or whoever was asking about the dots comes back | 17:38 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Those were in the original opacified version as heads -- they shouldn't be floating nor a different colour. I asked Ashton about them. | 17:38 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: It was pretty clever. | 17:38 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Dentist! (Kudos on you for getting your chores done.) | 17:38 |
| _MMA_ | troy_s: Sounds like a good GNOME bug for you to file upstream. "Allow .xml wallpapers." | 17:41 |
| kwwii | hrm, so what is better, installing 4:3 or whatever the other ratio currently is | 17:55 |
| kwwii | it definitely cuts off the right side on my desktop | 17:56 |
| _MMA_ | Go with what you have. | 17:57 |
| _MMA_ | Zoom and the widescreen image. To me, (who cares what Troy thinks anyway. ;)) it's the best solution we have ATM. | 17:58 |
| cody-somerville | _MMA_, Do you want to skype later? (like after I get off work) | 18:06 |
| _MMA_ | sure. I should be around. | 18:06 |
| === Dana1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| DnaX | qualcuno conosce e sa dove trovare Cimi? (quello che ha fatto Murrine) | 20:30 |
| _MMA_ | DnaX: Channel is English. Cimi hasn't been here in a bit. | 20:31 |
| _MMA_ | DnaX: Try @#murrine #archlinux.it #fsug-pd #oxygen or #archlinux | 20:32 |
| DnaX | thanks ;) sorry for italian | 20:34 |
| _MMA_ | np | 20:42 |
| kwwii | so, there is a new wallpaper pacakge coming soon | 21:57 |
| kwwii | just to piss _MMA_ off | 21:57 |
| _MMA_ | Thank god I don't get that ugly chicken in Studio. ;) | 21:57 |
| kwwii | _MMA_: no, I have a new policy for derivatives | 21:58 |
| kwwii | all derivatives *must* use a chicken based theme | 21:58 |
| kwwii | we are going to choke this chicken | 21:59 |
| _MMA_ | Pfftt... | 21:59 |
| * _MMA_ makes it all greyscale and sets view to "center". | 22:00 | |
| kwwii | and when the chicken is cooked we can move on | 22:01 |
| _MMA_ | Im gonna make a black one and call it "Burnt chicken". :P | 22:02 |
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