| asac | seb128_: i could reproduce it with our builds, but not when building upstream sources. now that almost all patches we had could be dropped there is a good chance that those are fixed. i didn't get them while doing my tests here at least. | 00:23 |
|---|---|---|
| seb128_ | ok | 00:23 |
| asac | seb128_: partially good news is that you can now add certs | 00:26 |
| asac | however, the reason, why the arguments passed to the cert dialog are not used to prefill the proper url is still unknown | 00:27 |
| seb128_ | which means from an user point of view? | 00:28 |
| asac | seb128_: the user experience is somewhat similar to that of adding a exception manually. | 00:31 |
| asac | seb128_: youll see | 00:31 |
| seb128_ | ok | 00:31 |
| asac | definitly an improvement to "no new certs" :) | 00:32 |
| seb128_ | right | 00:32 |
| seb128_ | hum, make me think that I need to talk to pitti to know why apport starts firefox rather than the preferred browser | 00:33 |
| seb128_ | especially that running firefox for non firefox users doesn't work | 00:33 |
| asac | seb128_: it does? | 00:34 |
| asac | strange | 00:34 |
| seb128_ | you get the question about migrating your datas and then firefox doesn't load the called url | 00:34 |
| seb128_ | I had to use something else than decide later to get the thing opening a webpage | 00:35 |
| asac | seb128_: which migration dialog are you talking about? | 00:36 |
| asac | seb128_: like what you get when you run: | 00:36 |
| asac | /usr/lib/firefox-3.0b5/ffox-3-beta-profile-migration-dialog | 00:36 |
| seb128_ | yes | 00:36 |
| seb128_ | I click on "decide later" since I updated because that's the default choice and I didn't bother ;-) | 00:37 |
| asac | ok. thats definitly not something a "normal user" will see. it only pops-up if you ran firefox 3 alpha or early betas | 00:37 |
| seb128_ | but that breaks "firefox URL" apparently | 00:37 |
| seb128_ | ah, I though it ran to migrate the firefox2 datas | 00:37 |
| asac | no ... previousl ffox 3 used a separate profile directory | 00:38 |
| seb128_ | the label is misleading then | 00:38 |
| asac | it just asks you which one you want to continue :) | 00:38 |
| asac | to use | 00:38 |
| seb128_ | ok | 00:38 |
| asac | seb128_: the title reads "firefox 3 beta support" :) | 00:38 |
| asac | seb128_: the label was drafted by mpt | 00:39 |
| asac | in london | 00:39 |
| seb128_ | anyway the issue is not there, it's rather than I use epiphany which is correctly configured in GNOME and than apport calls firefox | 00:39 |
| asac | i had a different versoin .... but that was a bit too echnical | 00:39 |
| asac | hehe right | 00:39 |
| asac | thats definilty an issue | 00:39 |
| asac | maybe pitti did this back when ssl was completely broken for ephy? | 00:39 |
| asac | was that broken? | 00:40 |
| asac | can't remember | 00:40 |
| asac | ;) | 00:40 |
| seb128_ | no | 00:40 |
| asac | lets wait i guess | 00:40 |
| seb128_ | yeah, I need to try again | 00:40 |
| seb128_ | the crash was an installation issue | 00:40 |
| seb128_ | so might be that's it's trying to use sudo apport or similar | 00:40 |
| seb128_ | and so not using my user settings | 00:41 |
| seb128_ | I'll talk to pitti about it when he's around | 00:41 |
| asac | right. night | 00:41 |
| seb128_ | 'night | 00:41 |
| asac | tomorrow meeting starts at 8 *sigh* | 00:41 |
| seb128_ | waouh, it's late again | 00:41 |
| asac | yeah | 00:41 |
| asac | ;) | 00:41 |
| seb128_ | too much to do this week | 00:41 |
| asac | bye | 00:42 |
| seb128_ | see you later | 00:42 |
| seb128_ | tedg: your gnome-screensaver tarballs seems to not be the upstream one? | 00:50 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:11 |
| crevette | hello | 07:21 |
| seb128 | good morning | 08:12 |
| dholbach | hey seb128 | 08:16 |
| seb128 | hello dholbach | 08:18 |
| mvo | good morning seb128! | 08:25 |
| seb128 | hey hey mvo | 08:26 |
| Hobbsee | morning seb128, dholbach, mvo | 08:32 |
| mvo | hey Hobbsee, dholbach! | 08:39 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: sky fallen in yet? | 08:39 |
| mvo | its falling for me all week already | 08:39 |
| crevette | seb128, would you be against updating gnome-phone-manager to the latest version ? it solves some problem; but the heck is gnokii has to be updated as well | 08:40 |
| seb128 | crevette: no really opinion, I'm too busy to do that myself and it's late for hardy | 08:41 |
| crevette | yeah, I understand, that's why I was asking | 08:42 |
| crevette | gnome-phone-manager is not really a problem, but I'm but concerned with gnokii | 08:42 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: oh dear. how's the compiz testing going? | 08:44 |
| mvo | Hobbsee: not too bad, the upgrades are currently more work, dapper->hardy and gutsy->hardy double the amount of test cases and potential failures | 08:45 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: yeah, true. Need some help? | 08:46 |
| mvo | I wouldn't mind :) checking for missing bits in the python transition is probably something that is straightfoward, or testing if the current alternative CD upgrades a dapper or gutsy with the instructions on the wiki | 08:50 |
| mvo | or with bug #213566 | 08:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 213566 in xkeyboard-config "dapper->hardy missing files on upgrade" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213566 | 08:51 |
| * Hobbsee can't do the cd stuff - bandwidth limitations. | 08:59 | |
| * Hobbsee looks at the bug | 08:59 | |
| cassidy | about UVFe, would be cool if someone could take a look on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/212873 | 09:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 212873 in empathy "UVFe empathy: 0.22.0 -> 0.22.1" [Wishlist,New] | 09:09 |
| Hobbsee | cassidy: ack'd. | 09:11 |
| cassidy | Hobbsee: thanks | 09:12 |
| Hobbsee | y/w | 09:12 |
| tjaalton | how do I prevent trackerd from starting up? I've removed the tracker*-files from /etc/xdg/autostart | 09:17 |
| seb128 | tjaalton: sudo apt-get remove tracker? | 09:19 |
| tjaalton | seb128: obviously :) | 09:19 |
| seb128 | tjaalton: other system, preferences, indexing and uncheck the index and watch options, that's what is done in hardy by default | 09:20 |
| seb128 | s/other/otherwise | 09:20 |
| tjaalton | seems to have no effect, but I'll just remove it | 09:24 |
| tjaalton | thanks | 09:25 |
| seb128 | tjaalton: that should, it works for everybody else apparently | 09:26 |
| huats | morning everyone | 09:43 |
| huats | seb128 crevette o/ | 09:43 |
| seb128 | lut huats | 09:43 |
| crevette | salut huats | 09:50 |
| mvo | seb128: is someone working on metacity? | 10:05 |
| seb128 | mvo: you ;-) | 10:05 |
| seb128 | mvo: you mean in ubuntu? | 10:06 |
| mvo | wellll | 10:06 |
| seb128 | mvo: marnanel is upstream for it | 10:06 |
| mvo | yeah, if someone is updating it or anything, I would like to work on it and this is a check_lock() | 10:06 |
| * mvo wants bzr | 10:06 | |
| seb128 | mvo: go for it ;-) | 10:06 |
| * mvo checks metacity into bzr | 10:08 | |
| Hobbsee | mvo: is there any wya to say "use this mirror in all cases, except when it doesn't have the required stuff, in which case, looka t that mirror?" | 10:50 |
| mvo | yeah, if you have "deb http://mirror1/ubuntu hardy main" and a line below "deb http://mirror2" it will use mirror1 if it has the stuff and mirror2 if mirror1 is e.g. outdated | 10:53 |
| seb128 | asac: hey | 10:54 |
| seb128 | asac: could you look to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/214468? that seems a xulrunner issue, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13274689/stacktrace-visitingbugtracker-dbgsym.txt | 10:54 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 214468 in epiphany-browser "Epiphany crashes inside xulrunner when viewing HTTPS sites" [Undecided,New] | 10:54 |
| seb128 | "/etc/alternatives/xulrunner-addons-flashplugin\000lternative.so" | 10:54 |
| seb128 | weird | 10:55 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: ahh, so it will obey that, all the time? | 10:55 |
| * Hobbsee moves more mirrors around then | 10:55 | |
| Hobbsee | mvo: thanks | 10:55 |
| mvo | it should, if not, that would be a bug :) | 10:55 |
| mvo | cheers | 10:55 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: wasn't sure if it was picking the fastest one, or something | 10:56 |
| Hobbsee | Fetched 99.6MB in 7min37s (218kB/s) | 10:57 |
| Hobbsee | that's better. | 10:57 |
| Hobbsee | still not hte mirror i was hoping for (that one's not unmetered), but it's still faster than pulling it from the UK. | 10:57 |
| asac | seb128: wow: resolved_path = "/etc/alternatives/xulrunner-addons-flashplugin\000lternative.so" | 11:01 |
| seb128 | asac: yeah, that's what I wrote before | 11:01 |
| seb128 | I'm wondering how that happened | 11:02 |
| seb128 | and if that's a weird filename on the disk or a code error | 11:02 |
| asac | seb128: looks like an infinite recursion. funny thing is that java plugin appears to retrigger a plugin scan | 11:04 |
| asac | seb128: was there a java update recently? | 11:04 |
| seb128 | asac: not that I know, but maybe better to ask doko | 11:05 |
| seb128 | asac: there was a flash plugin update this night though | 11:06 |
| asac | in the archive? | 11:07 |
| seb128 | asac: the flashplugin-nonfree thing | 11:09 |
| seb128 | asac: " * Update md5sum and package version for Flash 9.0.124.0." | 11:09 |
| seb128 | asac: that's the changelog entry | 11:09 |
| asac | seb128: ok. let me check if i can already get that | 11:11 |
| seb128 | well, I don't get the bug having those installed | 11:11 |
| seb128 | so I guess it's not the update | 11:11 |
| asac | seb128: i am in a stat whre i cannot close the crash notificatoin bubble | 11:31 |
| asac | state | 11:31 |
| asac | i had that a few times now; anything i can gather now to help you? | 11:31 |
| asac | hmm ... it auto disappeared. anything next time i get that? | 11:31 |
| seb128 | no idea, maybe mvo knows better, he hacked on that already | 11:32 |
| mvo | asac: that usually happens if the notification-daemon crashes iirc (or hangs) | 11:33 |
| mvo | asac: is there a crash file for that daemon? | 11:33 |
| * asac looking | 11:40 | |
| asac | mvo: no, but i think there already were too many crashes in. ill see if i get one next time | 11:40 |
| mvo | ok | 11:43 |
| fernando | moin all | 12:24 |
| seb128 | hey fernando | 12:26 |
| fernando | hey seb128, how are you going? | 12:27 |
| seb128 | fernando: good, what about you? | 12:27 |
| fernando | seb128, good too | 12:27 |
| dholbach | hey fernando! | 12:34 |
| * dholbach hugs fernando | 12:34 | |
| fernando | hey dholbach | 12:34 |
| * fernando hugs dholbach | 12:34 | |
| dholbach | :-) | 12:34 |
| fernando | dholbach, how are you going? | 12:36 |
| dholbach | good - just a bit tired :) | 12:36 |
| fernando | rest a little =) | 12:38 |
| dholbach | I'll make it a lunch break soon :) | 12:39 |
| seb128 | hey pedro_! | 13:01 |
| pedro_ | bonjour seb128! | 13:01 |
| pochu | seb128: I guess we should get 2.22 in before tomorrow, right? | 13:29 |
| seb128 | pochu: yes, it's mostly done now | 13:30 |
| seb128 | I've gnome-user-share to consider on my list if it's fixed in debian | 13:31 |
| seb128 | swfdec-gnome to sync if they update | 13:31 |
| seb128 | the mobile team does cheese | 13:31 |
| pochu | and anjuta (I know it's in universe, but I don't care :p) and I haven't seen robster lately, and it's not in pkg-gnome yet | 13:32 |
| seb128 | gedit-plugins which can be fake synced, slomo did the update but didn't upload due to some debian transition | 13:32 |
| seb128 | ah, we don't have that on the desktop so I didn't really bother | 13:32 |
| seb128 | but you are welcome to do the update if you want ;-) | 13:32 |
| pochu | ember: if you were looking for updates, feel free to do anjuta even if it's listed to be synced :) If you weren't, then nevermind | 13:33 |
| pochu | oh, I thought it was in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/WeeklyTODO. I see it's not | 13:33 |
| pochu | ember: the update should be trivial... if you aren't going to do it, let me know and I'll take care of it | 13:34 |
| huats | pochu: if I find some time and if ember has not, I might do it too (anjuta) | 14:00 |
| huats | pochu: In fact it is building right now :) | 14:06 |
| mvo | asac: can we have a transitional /usr/bin/mozilla-thunderbird binary symlink or something for dapper->hardy upgrade compatibility? | 14:17 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: we don't already? | 14:19 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: er, why? mozilla-thunderbird depends on thunderbird, and that will provide the link required? | 14:20 |
| Hobbsee | oh, that's right. it screws up gnome-do, and the run command, if you do. IIRC. | 14:20 |
| mvo | does it? I had a upgrade the other day where it was missing | 14:20 |
| Hobbsee | it'll certainly provide thunderbird. | 14:21 |
| mvo | yeah, thunderbird is there, just no mozilla-thunderbird and that kills custom launchers | 14:22 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: have you tried using a symlink for mozilla-thunderbird on any post-2.0 thunderbird release? | 14:22 |
| mvo | not a big thing, but irritating | 14:22 |
| mvo | no | 14:22 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: you need to, because i'm fairly sure it breaks. | 14:22 |
| ember | huats feel free to do it | 14:22 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: right, so if you symlink ln -s ../lib/thunderbird/thunderbird mozilla-thunderbird it works, but not if you symlink what was ln -s ../lib/thunderbird/mozilla-thunderbird mozilla-thunderbird, which i'd tried previously | 14:25 |
| Hobbsee | sorry for the noise. | 14:26 |
| huats | ember: ok | 14:27 |
| mvo | aha, thanks | 14:29 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: darn you. now i'm triaging thunderbird bugs. | 14:31 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/148008 is the same thing. | 14:34 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 148008 in mozilla-firefox "ff will not open thunderbird" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:34 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: in fact, that's the bug that you're talking about. | 14:35 |
| asac | mvo: which application opens mozilla-thunderbird after upgrade? | 14:35 |
| mvo | asac: no app, but custom desktop launchers (e.g. if people created a gnome launcher on their desktop or panel | 14:36 |
| asac | hmm | 14:36 |
| asac | ok | 14:36 |
| * Hobbsee marks another dupe. | 14:36 | |
| Hobbsee | asac: old firefox shortcuts too, it appears. | 14:36 |
| asac | maybe the bug was that the .desktop file name changed? | 14:36 |
| Hobbsee | asac: entire binary name changed, and the mozilla-thunderbird symlink to run-mozilla.sh got removed. | 14:37 |
| mvo | possible both | 14:37 |
| asac | Hobbsee: sorry, what is a firefox shortcut? | 14:37 |
| Hobbsee | asac: mailto? | 14:37 |
| asac | ah ok scheme/protocol handler | 14:37 |
| Hobbsee | asac: a lot of people have set their prefs.js / users.js with it too, it appears, then it broke. | 14:38 |
| Hobbsee | asac: presumably because it was having trouble working originally | 14:38 |
| asac | yeah | 14:38 |
| asac | can someone file a blocker bug on that? | 14:39 |
| asac | e.g. ship binary link + .desktop file link? | 14:39 |
| asac | :) | 14:39 |
| mib_mhawq70g | have a question about the new beta release of ubuntu | 14:40 |
| Hobbsee | asac: i could probably just fix the package, if you wanted. | 14:40 |
| mib_mhawq70g | With Ubuntu 7.10 my ATI grafik driver provided by ubuntu OS worked fine and i could use the desktop effects without any problems | 14:40 |
| Hobbsee | or at least, attmept it | 14:40 |
| mib_mhawq70g | but with the beta i.e. 8.04 i can't use the desktop effects, if i use it, then the windows open and close with a strange twist and disturbance | 14:41 |
| mib_mhawq70g | and while booting the ubuntu logo is also not sharp i.e. the 8.04 beta version does not seem to be working properly with the ATI grafic driver | 14:41 |
| mib_mhawq70g | is this some kind of bug which i can report on the ubuntu website? | 14:41 |
| asac | Hobbsee: if you build on top of bzr branch and push that somewhere so i can merge that would be appreciated | 14:41 |
| asac | Hobbsee: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.dev | 14:42 |
| mib_mhawq70g | i am using the restricted driver and if i switch off the desktop effects then everything works fine | 14:42 |
| Hobbsee | asac: what on earth? | 14:42 |
| Hobbsee | asac: did you guys never do a user migration from .mozilla-thunderbird to .thunderbird? | 14:42 |
| huats | pochu: bug 214601 | 14:44 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 214601 in anjuta "Please sponsor gcalctool 2.4.1 into hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214601 | 14:44 |
| Hobbsee | asac: if you didn't do so, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/155621 is probably a blocker. | 14:44 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 155621 in thunderbird "mozilla-thunderbird --> thunderbird. Did not find old profile folder" [Undecided,New] | 14:44 |
| seb128 | huats: wrong title ;-) | 14:46 |
| asac | Hobbsee: no ... we still have .mozilla-thunderbird because old profiles still have absolute paths in it | 14:46 |
| asac | getting that right is easy for most, but really tricky for corner cases | 14:47 |
| Hobbsee | asac: i realise that, but you probably should be copying it to .thunderbird or something too? | 14:47 |
| Hobbsee | asac: any extensions which aren't compatible got disabled. | 14:47 |
| Hobbsee | otherwise users suddenly think their email has vanished, whcih is bad. | 14:47 |
| huats | seb128: oups | 14:47 |
| huats | I am correcting that right now... | 14:48 |
| asac | Hobbsee: i don't understand that | 14:48 |
| huats | seb128: thanks | 14:48 |
| asac | why would i copy it .thunderbird? | 14:48 |
| asac | its not used by our package ' | 14:48 |
| seb128 | asac: ok, so the for your information the new xrandr capplet thingy had broken dpi calculation | 14:48 |
| Hobbsee | because our package uses .thunderbird since thunderbird 2.0, last i checked. | 14:48 |
| seb128 | asac: so it might explain some font rendering issue reported by some people | 14:49 |
| asac | Hobbsee: can't ack that, we are still using .mozilla-thunderbird | 14:49 |
| seb128 | asac: those using it had 1x1 dpi numbers for example instead of 96x96 | 14:49 |
| Hobbsee | no, i lie, we are still using .m-t | 14:49 |
| asac | hmm | 14:49 |
| * Hobbsee puts the symlink back in | 14:49 | |
| Hobbsee | asac: are they using upstream firefox, or something? | 14:50 |
| asac | upstream is .thunderbird | 14:50 |
| asac | but ubuntu never had that | 14:50 |
| Hobbsee | right, yeah | 14:50 |
| asac | :) | 14:50 |
| asac | seb128: strange. what does pango do with 1x1 dpi? | 14:51 |
| seb128 | asac: I'm not sure, but I noticed that it broken evince (it displays things very zoomed out) and fonts in epiphany-browser which are smaller | 14:51 |
| Hobbsee | asac: any idea why that guy, and the dupe, got that bug then? | 14:51 |
| seb128 | asac: GNOME seems to not care about the dpi number | 14:52 |
| seb128 | asac: the redhat guys added that to the capplet code | 14:54 |
| seb128 | " * Firefox apparently believes what X tells it. It is a foolish | 14:54 |
| seb128 | * application." | 14:54 |
| asac | thats not true | 14:54 |
| asac | firefox has a lower bound of 96 | 14:54 |
| asac | everything below will be intepreted as 96 | 14:55 |
| seb128 | ok, so without this capplet the value is 120 for me | 14:55 |
| seb128 | and using the capplet broken or fixed looks the same | 14:55 |
| asac | and fonts are directly rendered by pango (not through the dpi detected by it) | 14:55 |
| seb128 | which makes sense according to your comment | 14:55 |
| seb128 | evince was totally broken | 14:55 |
| asac | you won't see any font issues due to firefox ... its just pango used for fonts | 14:55 |
| seb128 | and firefox was rendering things the same way as when 96 dpi is used | 14:55 |
| asac | dpi is only used to scale images | 14:55 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:56 |
| asac | (but with 96 dpi lower bounds) | 14:56 |
| seb128 | I was commenting because you pochu and you discussed the issue some days ago | 14:56 |
| asac | yeah | 14:57 |
| asac | i fixed a related bug upstream | 14:57 |
| seb128 | ok, so it's all good | 14:57 |
| pochu | huats: thanks! looking at it | 14:58 |
| huats | pochu: ok great | 14:58 |
| huats | ping me if something is needed | 14:58 |
| * Hobbsee marks more dupes | 14:58 | |
| Hobbsee | 7 bugs, for the 5-a-day. | 14:59 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: still the launchpad integration bug? | 14:59 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: eparse? | 14:59 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: luke fixed that. | 14:59 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: no, this is thunderbird bugs. | 14:59 |
| seb128 | Hobbsee: ok, that's one which had several duplicates | 14:59 |
| seb128 | so I was wondering ;-) | 14:59 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: yeah, i'm sure it does :) | 15:00 |
| Hobbsee | seb128: i've not been back to that one. | 15:00 |
| Hobbsee | asac: are all crashes that begin with __kernel_vsyscall () dupes? | 15:03 |
| asac | Hobbsee: no ... thats just the top | 15:05 |
| Hobbsee | asac: hmm, kay. | 15:05 |
| asac | but the rest can be completely different | 15:05 |
| ember | seb128 do i need to g-t with b-d on lp .17 too or it is fine? | 15:05 |
| Hobbsee | asac: yeah, i suspected so, thanks. | 15:05 |
| seb128 | ember: everything using liblaunchpad-integration0 need to be rebuilt, things added <separators/> in the description need to be updated to not | 15:07 |
| ember | ok, i'm gonna re-check some things | 15:07 |
| ember | thanks | 15:07 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: who commits the bugs for 5-a-day now? | 15:08 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: hm? | 15:09 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: Bugs have been added, but not committed yet (already committed 28 minutes ago). | 15:09 |
| dholbach | it will commit a batch of added bugs (if 60 minutes have passed), or you can either use --add -f | 15:10 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: -f worked, thanks. | 15:14 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: it was blueyed's idea :) | 15:14 |
| * Hobbsee wonders hwo bughelper works nowadays | 15:15 | |
| * Hobbsee suspects teh syntax has changed | 15:15 | |
| pochu | wow, anjuta's clean targets are so broken... | 15:16 |
| pochu | $ zgrep "^+++ " anjuta_2.4.0-2.diff.gz | grep -v debian | wc -l | 15:16 |
| pochu | 136 | 15:16 |
| Hobbsee | mvo: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/214612 is an apt bug, no? | 15:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 214612 in soyuz "Provide pdiffs for apt-get update" [Undecided,New] | 15:16 |
| mvo | Hobbsee: no, if anything a won't fix - but let the soyuz people decide | 15:17 |
| Hobbsee | ahh | 15:17 |
| mvo | Hobbsee: apt supports pdiffs just fine, we just don't pulish any of those | 15:17 |
| Hobbsee | ahhhh.... | 15:18 |
| Hobbsee | right | 15:18 |
| mvo | and that is reasonable because our archive goes through a lot more churn | 15:18 |
| Hobbsee | yup | 15:19 |
| * xhaker asks how to rm a link in a preinst script when rm_conffile does the wrong thing, and creates a dpk-.bak | 15:20 | |
| xhaker | checking checksums of a link? shouldn't i be able to just rm -f the link? | 15:21 |
| pochu | huats: uploading, thanks! | 15:22 |
| pochu | huats: btw, you forgot to update the maintainer ;) | 15:22 |
| huats | pochu: oh that is true... | 15:23 |
| huats | sorry | 15:23 |
| pochu | np | 15:23 |
| ember | seb128 http://pfragoso.org/ubuntu/gnome-terminal_2.22.1-0ubuntu2.debdiff | 15:35 |
| seb128 | ember: there is no need to change the build-depends there if it's not using the api which changed | 15:37 |
| seb128 | ember: don't bother, those just need a no change uploaded, that's as quick to do rebuild that to sponsor so it's not really useful to go through sponsoring there | 15:37 |
| ember | oh okidoki | 15:38 |
| Hobbsee | ack. i'd forgotten how bad mines is with a touchpad. | 15:44 |
| seb128 | asac: so this epiphany crash from this morning is due to j2re1.4, once this one install I can confirm epiphany is crashing | 16:19 |
| asac | seb128: j2re1.4 why do you use that? | 16:25 |
| seb128 | asac: I don't, the submitter figured the crash was due to this one, and I installed it to see if it trigger the crash on my installation too | 16:26 |
| asac | and not java5, java6 and so on | 16:26 |
| asac | ah | 16:27 |
| asac | ok | 16:27 |
| asac | reassing that bug against java 1.4 id say | 16:28 |
| seb128 | why? | 16:28 |
| seb128 | epiphany was not crashing before the recent updates | 16:28 |
| asac | with java 1.4? | 16:28 |
| seb128 | it doesn't seem that the submitter just installed java 1.4 | 16:29 |
| seb128 | so it's likely the xulrunner or the epiphany-browser recent updates which triggered the issue | 16:29 |
| seb128 | btw why do we still have j2re1.4 in hardy multiverse if it should not be used? | 16:29 |
| asac | seb128: because doko claimed that nothing else works on amd64 | 16:30 |
| asac | but i think thats not true anymore | 16:30 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:30 |
| asac | ill prod him | 16:30 |
| seb128 | anyway low priority bug, I just wanted to let you know that the crash is due to it | 16:30 |
| asac | seb128: upstream changed the api used by java plugin in recent updates to fix security issues. most likely they didn't consider 1.4 worth not to break. | 16:31 |
| asac | so it makes sense to some degree that this appeared now | 16:32 |
| seb128 | epiphany or xulrunner? | 16:32 |
| asac | epiphany doesn't implement any plugin host ;) | 16:32 |
| asac | http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2008/mfsa2008-18.html | 16:32 |
| asac | thats the advisory that changed raised the bar for java | 16:33 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:33 |
| asac | but thats for the stable release branch | 16:33 |
| asac | most likely they did mor eintrusive changes to trunk | 16:33 |
| seb128 | I'll reassign from epiphany to xulrunner and let you talk to doko ;-) | 16:33 |
| asac | let me look | 16:33 |
| asac | seb128: yes, please add java 1.4 to title | 16:34 |
| asac | so i can easily spot that | 16:34 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:34 |
| asac | i ping doko. lets see | 16:34 |
| asac | seb128: bug id? | 16:46 |
| seb128 | asac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/214468 | 16:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 214468 in epiphany-browser "Epiphany crashes inside xulrunner when j2re1.4 is installed" [Undecided,New] | 16:47 |
| seb128 | asac: I just reassigned it | 16:47 |
| asac | oh :) | 16:47 |
| * asac hits cancel | 16:47 | |
| crevette | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/213745/comments/49 wtf | 16:58 |
| crevette | I don't understand such people | 16:58 |
| asac | seb128: bug 214468 | 16:59 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 214468 in meta-j2re1.4-mozilla "[removal request] Remove all java 1.4 bits from hardy (Was: Epiphany crashes inside xulrunner when j2re1.4 is installed)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214468 | 16:59 |
| seb128 | asac: ok | 17:00 |
| seb128 | asac: you might want to make xulrunner conflicts on it then? | 17:00 |
| asac | seb128: good idea. | 17:00 |
| asac | crevette: actually i would like a feature to edit comments in launchpad ... or remove comments completely (well hide them would be enough) | 17:02 |
| asac | like slashdot ;) | 17:03 |
| asac | people then could rate up useful comments and i could just read the gems ;) | 17:03 |
| asac | paradise :) | 17:03 |
| seb128 | asac: btw will you do the epiphany-extensions update? | 17:04 |
| seb128 | crevette: did you ask for an approval for the new gnome-phone-manager version? | 17:05 |
| asac | seb128: yes i can do the update. does it ship anything new besides our xul patches? | 17:06 |
| crevette | seb128: no I'm overusy during the day | 17:06 |
| crevette | I just arrived now, and I need a break | 17:07 |
| crevette | sorry :/ | 17:07 |
| seb128 | asac: I didn't look to detail, just that they did xul1.9 changes and you know better if the ubuntu patches can be dropped or not | 17:07 |
| seb128 | crevette: that's alright ;-) | 17:07 |
| seb128 | crevette: I'm not using it anyway, was just curious | 17:07 |
| asac | seb128: i thiknn chpe just used our patches. but ill see | 17:07 |
| seb128 | asac: ok, thanks | 17:08 |
| asac | seb128: 2.22.1 is latest right? (wonder because ephy had 2.22.1.1) | 17:10 |
| seb128 | yes | 17:10 |
| crevette | I need to figure out if phone-mgr 0.50 and latest gnokii have know bugs | 17:16 |
| crevette | but I don't know who do I need to contact for those | 17:17 |
| asac | mvo: you know apturl apt:something?section=multiverse right? is there a section i can use for the partner repo? | 17:55 |
| mvo | asac: yeah, that should work, but I suspect there is a bug in the code, I will investigate | 17:56 |
| mvo | asac: partner will not work I'm afraid | 17:57 |
| johandc | Hi, where does the new xrandr and gnome-display-settings store its settings? | 18:26 |
| johandc | I flipped my desktop upside-down which renders the screen black, and now i cant set it back to normal again. | 18:26 |
| vuntz | stupid question | 19:30 |
| vuntz | does /etc/timezone end with \n? | 19:30 |
| shiyee | vuntz: does on my system | 19:33 |
| vuntz | thanks | 19:34 |
| kwwii | pitti: I'll make you a deal...upload my ubuntu-wallpaper package and I will make it more than 1MB smaller | 19:49 |
| kwwii | http://sinecera.de/ubuntu-wallpapers_0.25.dsc | 19:54 |
| Anon2910 | hello | 19:59 |
| Anon2910 | hola | 19:59 |
| kwwii | hola | 20:05 |
| Nafallo | can I get ekiga to use pulseaudio? | 21:40 |
| seb128 | Nafallo: no idea about ekiga | 21:40 |
| Nafallo | I bet speakers work because of some emulation somewhere, but not the mic :-/ | 21:41 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 22:02 |
| Nafallo | not sure what happened to Evince, but my PDFs are scaled down to 2% or something... | 22:02 |
| seb128 | Nafallo: update again and restart your session | 22:10 |
| seb128 | Nafallo: you used the new xrandr capplet right? | 22:10 |
| seb128 | Nafallo: gnome-desktop was using a wrong dpi calculation and evince uses the xorg value | 22:11 |
| Nafallo | dunno. just double-clicked the PDF :-) | 22:11 |
| Nafallo | ah. fixed bugs are the best ones :-) | 22:11 |
| Nafallo | will need to logout later then ;-) | 22:11 |
| seb128 | update and try to use the capplet | 22:15 |
| seb128 | that might fix it too | 22:15 |
| Nafallo | okidoki | 22:15 |
| Nafallo | hi tedg :-) | 22:16 |
| tedg | Hello Nafallo | 22:16 |
| Nafallo | morning pochu :-) | 22:16 |
| pochu | good night Nafallo! | 22:20 |
| pochu | Nafallo: where are you from? I thought you were from Norway or Sweden... | 22:20 |
| Nafallo | pochu: Sweden, but live in London. | 22:21 |
| Nafallo | Wed Apr 9 22:21:19 BST 2008 | 22:21 |
| pochu | Nafallo: I'm in Spain :) | 22:23 |
| Nafallo | pochu: yea, I figured. | 22:24 |
| Nafallo | pochu: still morning somewhere :-P | 22:24 |
| tedg | Nafallo: I have a new GPM package in my PPA that I believe fixes some of the idle brightness problems (I think you were having that one), could you see if it fixes it? | 22:43 |
| Nafallo | tedg: sure. tomorrow morning. have the laptop in the office. | 22:45 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 22:45 |
| Nafallo | tedg: BST btw. | 22:45 |
| tedg | Ah, so e-mail me then, I'll be asleep ;) | 22:46 |
| Nafallo | tedg: your_nick@canonical.com ? :-) | 22:50 |
| Amaranth | Nafallo: first.last@canonical.com | 22:50 |
| Nafallo | oki. kewl. | 22:50 |
| Amaranth | don't tell anyone the secret ;) | 22:50 |
| tedg | Nafallo: So Ted.Gould. | 22:51 |
| Nafallo | tedg: yea. asked who you where when I was in the office :-) | 22:51 |
| Nafallo | ;-) | 22:51 |
| tedg | Heh, my first stalker... ;) | 22:51 |
| Nafallo | not where. was :-) | 22:51 |
| Nafallo | tedg: might as well when seb told me you would fix my issues ;-) | 22:52 |
| yosch | seb128: ping | 23:07 |
| seb128 | yosch: hi | 23:11 |
| yosch | seb128: sistpoty mentioned by mail you would decide about exception for desktop-related items | 23:13 |
| yosch | I have one package that would could be usefully added: | 23:13 |
| yosch | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=ttf-ubuntu-title | 23:13 |
| seb128 | right, for universe and after the freeze (which is not in effect yet) | 23:13 |
| seb128 | hum, I've no clue about fonts, better to just subscribe the motu team to this one | 23:14 |
| yosch | seb128: ok, I thought we were already there | 23:14 |
| yosch | I've been in touch via email with Arne and cjwatson. How do I subscribe the motu team? | 23:15 |
| seb128 | ask on #ubuntu-motu about they procedure, I don't know exactly | 23:16 |
| yosch | OK willdo. Thanks. | 23:16 |
| seb128 | you are welcome | 23:17 |
| vuntz | seb128: would you have some time to test something? | 23:37 |
| seb128 | vuntz: yes | 23:37 |
| vuntz | new reading/writing code for setting timezone | 23:37 |
| vuntz | it should work, but, well, it's not really tested... | 23:37 |
| seb128 | alright | 23:38 |
| vuntz | let me do a 'make dist'. Will be easier for you & me | 23:39 |
| vuntz | (don't want to commit the writing code right now) | 23:39 |
| walters | does anyone know how I can find out which version of dbus the dbus-glib package in debian lenny was built against? | 23:42 |
| walters | hm, i guess i need to map from lenny to a version number | 23:42 |
| seb128 | walters: http://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=dbus-glib | 23:42 |
| walters | ah, that is nicer than the interface linked from build.debian.org/index.html | 23:43 |
| seb128 | seems to be dbus 1.1.1 | 23:43 |
| walters | background here is: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15430 | 23:44 |
| ubotu | Freedesktop bug 15430 in GLib "ABI break in git head" [Critical,Assigned] | 23:44 |
| vuntz | seb128: http://www.gnome.org/~vuntz/tmp/gnome-panel-2.22.1.2.tar.bz2 | 23:44 |
| vuntz | seb128: I guess reading the timezone will work. I'm more interested in setting the timezone | 23:45 |
| vuntz | seb128: it should do the right thing wrt /etc/localtime and /etc/timezone and it shouldn't touch any other file | 23:45 |
| seb128 | vuntz: ok, trying in a minute | 23:46 |
| seb128 | vuntz: building | 23:57 |
| seb128 | vuntz: ok, built | 23:59 |
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