| xivulon | they were suggested by szaka to minimize hardreboot issues | 00:00 |
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| TheMuso | evand: If we have to go all root for only-ubiquity, its trivial to slip some code into the casper script to check the cmdline, and if only-ubiquity exists, save the setings as root. I was actually playing with such an idea late last week. | 06:53 |
| evand | TheMuso: good to know, thanks | 06:54 |
| superm1 | evand, sorry to be pushy, but would you mind giving the dvd livefs and ISO another prod before you head off to bed? | 06:59 |
| superm1 | the lang support thing was sorted out earlier this afternoon | 06:59 |
| evand | superm1: not at all. | 06:59 |
| superm1 | great thanks | 07:00 |
| evand | superm1: done | 08:10 |
| superm1 | evand, great, i'll pull this overnight then and get it in our factory image tomorrow for testing | 08:11 |
| superm1 | i didn't get a chance to ask you, did you sort out the keyboard preseeding for this ubiquity release? | 08:11 |
| superm1 | looking at my list, that was the last one that i wasn't sure on | 08:12 |
| evand | not yet, I've been looking at it, but I haven't been able to track down the cause yet | 08:14 |
| superm1 | okay, i'll make sure everything else is in shape then | 08:14 |
| superm1 | Thanks! | 08:15 |
| evand | anytime | 08:15 |
| evand | g'night | 08:15 |
| superm1 | night | 08:15 |
| CIA-1 | partman-basicfilesystems: cjwatson * r560 ubuntu/debian/changelog: expand changelog | 08:17 |
| GreatMandrill | hi. I have noticed that after finishing the ubuntu-server installation the apt cd source is /etc/apt/sources.list is disabled. There is a easy way to make this entry active after the installation?. Some preseed command perhaps?. Thanks | 09:12 |
| CIA-1 | partman-basicfilesystems: cjwatson * r561 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 56ubuntu4 | 09:16 |
| cjwatson | GreatMandrill: not really - in most cases it isn't appropriate because apt will end up asking you for the CD any time you try to do package management operations | 09:17 |
| GreatMandrill | ok, thx | 09:19 |
| cjwatson | there isn't actually a way to change that with preseeding (because the apt-setup code in question runs after preseed/late_command); you could file a bug on Ubuntu apt-setup if you decide you still want that | 09:24 |
| * cjwatson attacks bug 85713 | 10:04 | |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 85713 in ubiquity "No mount point options listed during manual partitioning" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85713 | 10:04 |
| CIA-1 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2614 ubiquity/ (4 files in 3 dirs): | 10:59 |
| CIA-1 | ubiquity: * Offer a list of mount points when creating a partition (LP: #85713). | 10:59 |
| CIA-1 | ubiquity: Adjust this list (and also that offered when editing a partition) if the | 10:59 |
| CIA-1 | ubiquity: file system is changed to FAT or NTFS. | 10:59 |
| CIA-1 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2615 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py): * Guard against division by zero while copying files (LP: #211503). | 11:31 |
| xivulon | evand, have asked cking on #ubuntu-kernel re sysctl settings in lupin-support (bug #204133) | 12:43 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 204133 in wubi "wubi install unusable - Buffer I/O error on device loop0" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204133 | 12:43 |
| xivulon | I'd wait for his reply before deciding what to do with lupin, but in the meantime it might be reasonable to use settings closer to default | 12:43 |
| Silicium | is the name of ubuntu installer hardcoded? | 12:43 |
| Silicium | "welcome to ubuntu installer" | 12:43 |
| Silicium | or iam able to change this text | 12:44 |
| xivulon | evand, re mounthost, there is no much point about maintaining it at this point, unless we will have new fs packages in the LTS lifespan that will make remounting of ntfs/loops feasible | 12:45 |
| xivulon | "welcome to ubuntu installer" | 12:50 |
| xivulon | my english is poor, but shouldn't that be "welcome to the ubuntu installer"? | 12:51 |
| * xivulon thinks about last time an installer welcomed him | 12:52 | |
| Silicium | no | 12:53 |
| Silicium | thath shouldbe "welcome to $foo installer" | 12:53 |
| Silicium | installer for my distribution | 12:53 |
| xivulon | "welcome to $foo installer" | 12:54 |
| xivulon | "welcome to $foo installer" | 12:54 |
| Silicium | ? | 12:55 |
| xivulon | "welcome to THE $foo installer" | 12:55 |
| Silicium | damn thats not the topic | 12:55 |
| Silicium | i wanna change the text | 12:55 |
| xivulon | sorrey for the multiple posts, using a webgateway wich does not like clipboard paste... | 12:55 |
| xivulon | I know mine was a side comment, I do not know much about ubiquity code (assuming that is what you are referring to). | 12:56 |
| Silicium | not buiquity | 12:57 |
| Silicium | the ncurses installer | 12:57 |
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| cjwatson | xivulon,Silicium: there's a reason we don't include "Ubuntu" in Ubiquity's text :-) | 13:02 |
| Silicium | hey cjwatson haha youre help is everywhere, :D | 13:02 |
| cjwatson | Silicium: where do you see the text "Welcome to Ubuntu installer"? | 13:02 |
| Silicium | you greate | 13:02 |
| Silicium | cjwatson: i mean the welcome text in the ncurses installer | 13:03 |
| cjwatson | err, it doesn't have any as far as I know | 13:03 |
| cjwatson | the first screen is "Choose language" | 13:03 |
| Silicium | yep | 13:04 |
| cjwatson | do you mean F1 at the CD boot menu, which says "Welcome to Ubuntu!" in its title bar? | 13:04 |
| Silicium | nope this i have edited | 13:04 |
| Silicium | mom i see which dialog is it | 13:04 |
| Silicium | erm, cjwatson you got payed for you support work? | 13:05 |
| cjwatson | no, my job is Ubuntu Platform Team Manager | 13:05 |
| Silicium | you everytime here in the chan an help for stupid questions :D | 13:05 |
| Silicium | cjwatson: ok cool :D | 13:05 |
| Silicium | canional inc? | 13:05 |
| Silicium | or in the "free" community? | 13:05 |
| cjwatson | but I happen to care about the Ubuntu installer quite a bit, and that was my main job before I moved to management | 13:05 |
| cjwatson | Canonical UK Ltd. | 13:05 |
| Silicium | ok cool :) | 13:05 |
| cjwatson | (if you want the company on my paycheques ...) | 13:06 |
| cjwatson | if you press "Go back" from the alternate installer's first screen, the title bar is "Ubuntu installer main menu" | 13:06 |
| cjwatson | that's hardcoded in the main-menu package, somewhat unfortunately | 13:06 |
| Silicium | ok | 13:06 |
| cjwatson | the reason it isn't just ("%s installer main menu" % distribution) is that Ubuntu sometimes gets transliterated | 13:06 |
| Silicium | yea | 13:07 |
| Silicium | this is what i think | 13:07 |
| cjwatson | so, for instance, in Macedonian it's "Убунту" | 13:07 |
| Silicium | yea | 13:07 |
| Silicium | so the language files are also hardcoded? | 13:07 |
| cjwatson | we've generally tried to get rid of explicit references to Ubuntu; the ones that remain is where it's hard to justify removing the distribution name | 13:07 |
| cjwatson | afraid so | 13:07 |
| Silicium | ok | 13:07 |
| cjwatson | I consider everything like that to be a bug, FWIW | 13:07 |
| Silicium | and in which binary? | 13:07 |
| cjwatson | main-menu source, builds main-menu.udeb; it ends up in /var/lib/dpkg/info/main-menu.templates in the initrd which is loaded into /var/lib/cdebconf/templates.dat as the installer boots | 13:08 |
| Silicium | ok thanks | 13:08 |
| cjwatson | (and /var/lib/dpkg/info/main-menu.templates is then removed to save memory) | 13:08 |
| xivulon | cjwatson, did you happen to find out anything new on #206113 ? | 13:08 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: I'm afraid not, it's a kernel problem isn't it? | 13:08 |
| xivulon | ah no that one I found out | 13:09 |
| xivulon | if you mean the buffer I/O | 13:09 |
| cjwatson | oh, right, sorry, mixed up | 13:09 |
| xivulon | 206113 is about swap creation | 13:09 |
| cjwatson | no, I haven't looked further at it. The root error is "mkswap: unable to write signature page", which is literally write() failing | 13:10 |
| xivulon | I am not too concerned since that appears to be the only report I have seen on that, but still | 13:10 |
| cjwatson | how about I make it at least give the errno | 13:10 |
| cjwatson | then you might be able to have a better guess at the cause | 13:10 |
| xivulon | only thing I can think of is if the swapfile is not contiguous | 13:10 |
| xivulon | I remember mkswap does not like that, but not sure what the errorno would be in such case | 13:11 |
| cjwatson | well, it's not what mkswap likes really, it's what the kernel says to write() | 13:11 |
| cjwatson | if (write(DEV, (char *) signature_page + offset, pagesize - offset) | 13:11 |
| cjwatson | != pagesize - offset) | 13:11 |
| cjwatson | bb_error_msg_and_die("unable to write signature page"); | 13:11 |
| cjwatson | now, it could be a short write, but that generally ought not to happen when writing less than a page | 13:12 |
| cjwatson | but it's possible | 13:12 |
| cjwatson | (if you don't know: write() is not guaranteed to write everything in one go) | 13:12 |
| cjwatson | I'll try installing the obvious fix for that and see if it helps | 13:12 |
| xivulon | thanks | 13:13 |
| xivulon | the kernel issue by the way was due to the sysctl parameters in lupin-support | 13:14 |
| cjwatson | hooray for the existence of bb_full_write; writing out that code over and over in N different codebases gets boring | 13:14 |
| xivulon | for some reason the new kernel does not like them anymore, have asked cking to have a look | 13:14 |
| cjwatson | ok | 13:14 |
| xivulon | we also have to decide whether to keep mounthost in | 13:15 |
| xivulon | basically now it does nothing, since /host is mounted rw in initramfs | 13:15 |
| xivulon | it might become useful if ntfs/loop become remountable and initramfs is changed accordingly (within hardy LTS) | 13:15 |
| xivulon | not sure if that is likely to happen... otherwise we can just remove mounthost | 13:16 |
| cjwatson | oh, err, busybox can't be relevant! | 13:18 |
| cjwatson | this is in ubiquity so it's util-linux' mkswap, duh | 13:18 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: spawned off a util-linux task and asked LaMont to have a look | 13:23 |
| xivulon | thanks a lot | 13:23 |
| xivulon | any view on mounthost ^? | 13:24 |
| xivulon | basically that translates to: any chance for ntfs-3g to become remountable with a package update in 8.04 cycle? | 13:24 |
| xivulon | I'd guess that would be a new feature, hence not | 13:24 |
| cjwatson | sounds unlikely, though feel free to petition the release manager | 13:27 |
| xivulon | well I'd guess if that was required we could also update lupin-support package correct? | 13:28 |
| xivulon | I'd remove mounthost for the time being | 13:29 |
| Silicium | hmm | 13:42 |
| Silicium | cjwatson: do you have any idea why the package ipbx-frontend does not configure? | 13:42 |
| Silicium | http://marco.2am.ch/ipbxlog | 13:42 |
| Silicium | i cant find any problem | 13:43 |
| Silicium | and when i boot the system and type apt-get install ipbx then works fine | 13:43 |
| cjwatson | Silicium: looks like it's sensitive to $TERM and can't deal with the installer's terminal | 13:44 |
| Silicium | hmm | 13:45 |
| Silicium | can i fix that? | 13:45 |
| cjwatson | ipbx-frontend doesn't appear to be in Ubuntu, so I'm unable to help further | 13:45 |
| Silicium | i know, is my package :D | 13:46 |
| Silicium | so is it a package problem | 13:46 |
| Silicium | mhm | 13:46 |
| cjwatson | oh, it might not be that actually, I see an error to do with postgresql in there | 13:46 |
| cjwatson | which means that it's probably bug 204108 | 13:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 204108 in udev "stripped-down permissions.rules needed for udev-udeb" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204108 | 13:47 |
| Silicium | oh | 13:47 |
| Silicium | if i install postgresql manually with apt-get and then ipbx is will works | 13:47 |
| cjwatson | yep, looks like it | 13:47 |
| cjwatson | you'll need to wait for that bug fix | 13:47 |
| cjwatson | note that it's fix committed so it should come along shortly | 13:48 |
| cjwatson | changing the way you install postgresql will not help | 13:48 |
| Silicium | so then is it not he bug | 13:48 |
| Silicium | i can install if i do manually | 13:48 |
| Silicium | then it works | 13:48 |
| cjwatson | right, it'll work after you reboot | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | the problem is that /target/dev/null when the installer is running is not writable by the postgresql user | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | er, the postgres user | 13:49 |
| Silicium | oh ok | 13:49 |
| Silicium | thats the bug | 13:49 |
| cjwatson | but when you reboot it will work fine because the normal udev rules will come into effect | 13:49 |
| Silicium | allright | 13:49 |
| Silicium | hmm | 13:49 |
| Silicium | can i reload the udev rules? | 13:49 |
| Silicium | before install ibpx | 13:50 |
| cjwatson | no | 13:50 |
| Silicium | damn | 13:50 |
| Silicium | so we should release the beta thoday :D | 13:50 |
| Silicium | hmm | 13:50 |
| cjwatson | the bug will be fixed by relese | 13:50 |
| cjwatson | release | 13:50 |
| cjwatson | this is the sort of thing you get when working on a beta; it is practically guaranteed to contain bugs :-) | 13:50 |
| Silicium | ok fine | 13:53 |
| Silicium | thanks | 13:53 |
| cjwatson | in order to work around it you'd need to insert the output of 'grep null /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules' into some file in /etc/udev/rules.d/ in your initrd | 13:53 |
| Silicium | so i have a live CD too, this must be enaught for my interesting customers :) | 13:53 |
| Silicium | no easy | 13:54 |
| Silicium | i will wait | 13:54 |
| xivulon | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/143 | 14:00 |
| PecisDarbs | hi people, where I can find translatable strings for Live CD, for those menus in the beginning? | 14:13 |
| Mirv | PecisDarbs: gfxboot-theme-ubuntu | 14:13 |
| PecisDarbs | ok, thanks :) | 14:14 |
| Mirv | PecisDarbs: ie. https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu/+pots/bootloader | 14:14 |
| Mirv | PecisDarbs: no problem :) | 14:14 |
| PecisDarbs | btw, I have problems with fonts in my language, like it should be INSTALĀCIJA, but it goes like INSTALCIJA | 14:14 |
| PecisDarbs | translations are ok | 14:15 |
| PecisDarbs | so it just drop fonts | 14:15 |
| PecisDarbs | where should I report that? | 14:15 |
| Mirv | someone else can maybe answer that, I'm actually no installer developer at all | 14:15 |
| cjwatson | PecisDarbs: which language? | 14:17 |
| PecisDarbs | cjwatson: Latvian | 14:17 |
| cjwatson | and at what point do you see INSTALCIJA | 14:17 |
| cjwatson | ? | 14:17 |
| PecisDarbs | I will have to test it | 14:19 |
| PecisDarbs | cjwatson: it usually happens at the beginning, mostly when I view installer help | 14:19 |
| PecisDarbs | INSTALCIJA was example, I can't remember exact strings, but they where many | 14:19 |
| cjwatson | I'm just asking because it will help me track it down exactly | 14:20 |
| cjwatson | current CD images seem to have reasonable Latvian fonts | 14:21 |
| cjwatson | PecisDarbs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/tmp/latvian-boot-help.png | 14:22 |
| cjwatson | PecisDarbs: perhaps you were using 7.10? | 14:22 |
| PecisDarbs | cjwatson: no no, I was using recent daily cds | 14:23 |
| PecisDarbs | hmmmm | 14:23 |
| evand | xivulon: ack'ed | 14:23 |
| PecisDarbs | strange, I have to check that, if it is gone, then thanks :D | 14:23 |
| PecisDarbs | cjwatson: I will check this asap and then will report back | 14:24 |
| PecisDarbs | have to download and burn live cd | 14:24 |
| cjwatson | ok, thanks | 14:25 |
| CIA-1 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2617 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs): | 14:32 |
| CIA-1 | ubiquity: * Ensure that "Location for the new partition" always defaults to | 14:32 |
| CIA-1 | ubiquity: "Beginning" (LP: #207810). | 14:32 |
| Silicium | cjwatson: is the bug in a base install package or also on the installer cd | 14:33 |
| Silicium | so, i need to download a new cd to fix the bug i fix is released? | 14:33 |
| cjwatson | Silicium: it's in a package that forms part of the installer initrd, so yes, you'll need a new CD | 14:35 |
| Silicium | only the initrd? | 14:46 |
| Silicium | okay, then i can only replace that in my cd build environment :) | 14:46 |
| Silicium | thanks a lot | 14:46 |
| CIA-1 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2618 ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py: on_partition_*_use_combo_changed may be called before partition_*_mount_combo has been set up | 14:47 |
| cjwatson | yes, though replacing just the initrd is risky and I would recommend a full upgrade | 14:47 |
| evand | xivulon: new lupin without mounthost uploaded. | 15:08 |
| PecisDarbs | cjwatson: yes, seemingly fonts aren't skipped anymore, big thanks to anyone who fixed this :) | 15:08 |
| cjwatson | PecisDarbs: excellent. This was probably because we were unable to regenerate the reduced font for a while; Liu Qishuai figured out the problem and we fixed it in February | 15:10 |
| PecisDarbs | I see | 15:10 |
| PecisDarbs | nice :) | 15:10 |
| CIA-1 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r905 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20070308ubuntu37 | 15:25 |
| GreatMandrill | cjwatson: where i can get the apt=key pakage (or his source) with yesterday's patch> Thanks | 15:46 |
| xivulon | evand thanks for that | 16:00 |
| evand | no problem | 16:02 |
| xivulon | for lupin not sure what to use for the parameters | 16:03 |
| xivulon | the tradeoff is that if we are too loose people may have issues with hard reboots and blame ubuntu for fs corruption | 16:04 |
| xivulon | if we are to strict we have I/O errors... | 16:04 |
| xivulon | I mean lupin-sysctl | 16:04 |
| xivulon | as mentioned I already asked cking | 16:05 |
| xivulon | in the meantime we might have bdmurray and myself to do some empirical tests by gradually rising dirty_limit & co | 16:06 |
| xivulon | arguably not very scientific... | 16:06 |
| evand | indeed, I read the scrollback in -kernel. I'd wait to see what he says. Hopefully he can fix the problem or find a workaround. | 16:06 |
| evand | heh | 16:06 |
| evand | did you catch the zdnet article yet? Very nice, though I emailed the author about the last paragraph, noting that Wubi can be run stand-alone and thus removes the need for a CD, we just don't have it up on the website yet. | 16:08 |
| xivulon | I read the one in ars-techica some time ago' | 16:09 |
| * xivulon reads zdnet | 16:09 | |
| xivulon | ah had seen that too | 16:09 |
| xivulon | yeah read a few people recommending Daemon Tools & co just to use wubi... | 16:11 |
| xivulon | kind of defeats the purpose... | 16:11 |
| evand | heh, indeed | 16:11 |
| evand | any response from Matthew Nuzum? | 16:12 |
| xivulon | not yet | 16:12 |
| xivulon | in fact I also have to ask about metalink url... | 16:12 |
| xivulon | I'd think the easiest route there is to have a wubi-specific url for metalink and other possible runtime data | 16:13 |
| xivulon | We can fix public metalink issues later on | 16:13 |
| xivulon | I am stretching the SF terms of use... | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | GreatMandrill: should be in the apt package in hardy | 16:14 |
| GreatMandrill | thx, cjwatson | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | evand: do you think your patch from bug 182004 should just be applied in lieu of anything more sophisticated? | 17:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 182004 in ubiquity "partitioner fails if partially preseeded due to seen flag madness" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182004 | 17:42 |
| evand | cjwatson: yeah | 17:45 |
| xivulon | evand by the way just noticed that I forgot to push rev 481, in case you were tempted, do not use 480... | 18:14 |
| xivulon | will upload rev 481 tonight | 18:14 |
| xivulon | ah not sure what you want to do with segfaults | 18:16 |
| xivulon | I'd suggest using nsis 2.36 until someone complains... | 18:16 |
| evand | xivulon: we're going to need to come up with a better argument for the release team than "we hope nsis 2.36 fixes the segfaults, but we have no evidence that it does" if we're going to use 2.36. | 18:22 |
| evand | I tried to reproduce my crashes using the older nsis with debugging build, but I could not | 18:22 |
| xivulon | I know but how can we track a bug if when the bug cannot be reproduced with debugging symbols? | 18:22 |
| xivulon | Even binary search is impossible | 18:23 |
| xivulon | We know that 2.34 segfaults, and 2.36 seems to fix it, having people use 2.36 extensively might be the best we can do | 18:24 |
| xivulon | if we have reports of segfaults in 2.36 we go back to 2.34 (which was more tested) otherwise we stick with 2.36 | 18:25 |
| evand | xivulon: can you join #ubuntu-release? Lets make the case to slangasek. | 18:27 |
| xivulon | sure | 18:27 |
| xivulon | evand can you pls also look at 214211 when you have a minute? | 18:28 |
| evand | will do | 18:29 |
| xivulon | cjwatson, just noticed your comment in #208818 , do you want me to run some tests there? | 19:12 |
| xivulon | evand have reassigned 214211 to you if you do not mind: configure_hardware > self.chroot_setup(x11=True) > No such file or directory: '/root/.Xauthority' | 20:12 |
| xivulon | in ubiquity | 20:12 |
| evand | indeed, I caught that. I'll take a look later today, I'm quite busy with other work atm. | 20:16 |
| xivulon | .disk/info is the same for alternate and live, correct? | 20:28 |
| cjwatson | 214211 sounds like my fault. Why doesn't /root exist? | 20:41 |
| cjwatson | err | 20:41 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: 214211 says it's with the beta, so it can't possibly be the x11 stuff | 20:41 |
| cjwatson | because I added that code post-beta | 20:41 |
| cjwatson | huh, is wubi downloading the ISO? that's broken surely | 20:42 |
| cjwatson | oh! broken in noninteractive mode, I suck | 20:44 |
| cjwatson | evand: I'll fix this if you like | 20:44 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: 208818> if you can, yes please | 20:47 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: assuming you know what it's supposed to look like | 20:47 |
| evand | cjwatson: that'd be great, thanks | 20:49 |
| xivulon | not sure what to look at but will try to figure it out, "comment out the following piece of code" how do you usually do that? I know how to use sed | 20:49 |
| xivulon | but that is for one liners... | 20:49 |
| xivulon | cjwatson: wubi will download the daily ISO | 20:51 |
| mario_limonciell | er um cjwatson, you're fix for usplash broke noninteractive | 20:52 |
| mario_limonciell | ~ line 1200 you are assuming x11 is available | 20:53 |
| mario_limonciell | and same thing at line 1226 | 20:53 |
| CIA-1 | ubiquity: cjwatson * r2621 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py): | 20:53 |
| CIA-1 | ubiquity: * Stop X forwarding code from breaking if we aren't running within X | 20:53 |
| CIA-1 | ubiquity: (LP: #214211). | 20:53 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: stick # at the front of the line | 20:54 |
| cjwatson | mario_limonciell: heh, that was 214211 that xivulon referred to above, and I just fixed | 20:54 |
| mario_limonciell | ah yeah i just looked at the diff | 20:55 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: that's very confusing. Why? | 20:55 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: it should use the one that's right there in the drive, ideally | 20:55 |
| mario_limonciell | also for this latest dvd it would appear that less language packages are pre-installed. was there a particular reason for that? | 20:56 |
| xivulon | cjwatson, depends how he runs it, if he is using a physical CD will use that (will extract the CD content as iso first), if he runs wubi standalone it will download | 20:57 |
| cjwatson | "PS: It crashes when it is installing Ubuntu from the CD." | 20:59 |
| xivulon | re commenting I meant I never found out how to edit documents in busybox, and the few times I needed to always ended up using sed (don't laugh), which is inconvenient for several lines, was wondering if you had any tip | 20:59 |
| cjwatson | saith the bug report | 20:59 |
| cjwatson | sed is what you need to use in the initramfs | 20:59 |
| cjwatson | it's not convenient - correct :-) | 20:59 |
| cjwatson | mario_limonciell: DVD ought to have all available language support | 21:00 |
| * xivulon starts pertition for editor in busibox! | 21:00 | |
| cjwatson | there is an editor in busybox, it's just not in the initramfs | 21:00 |
| cjwatson | I might add it in intrepid | 21:00 |
| mario_limonciell | cjwatson, all the languages were "available", just the amount pre-installed in the livefs has changed | 21:00 |
| mario_limonciell | so i wasn't sure if that was intended | 21:00 |
| cjwatson | mario_limonciell: no, I mean they're all supposed to be preinstalled in the livfs | 21:00 |
| cjwatson | livefs | 21:00 |
| mario_limonciell | hm well i preseeded all the language characters i could see, and a very large amount of lang packages got installed at the end still | 21:01 |
| mario_limonciell | the livefs is awfully small to have all lang packs this time around too anyhow (835 mb) | 21:01 |
| xivulon | when it is installing Ubuntu from the CD. | 21:02 |
| cjwatson | = Language packs; in theory we're putting them all on the DVD = | 21:03 |
| cjwatson | * /^language-pack-[^-]+$/ | 21:03 |
| cjwatson | * /^language-pack-gnome-[^-]+$/ | 21:03 |
| cjwatson | says the current live-dvd build | 21:03 |
| cjwatson | bring it up on #ubuntu-devel? | 21:03 |
| xivulon | cjwatson the way I read is that "it crashes when it is installing Ubuntu from the CD"= "when in ubiquity" | 21:03 |
| xivulon | even if he was using wubi with cd that would be ejected | 21:03 |
| mario_limonciell | cjwatson, let me get a log from a full install of everythign that gets installed (my last install failed due to the noninteractive), so i'll do one with automatic-ubiquity and then bring it up so i have some hard evidence | 21:03 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: it sure sounds like a physical CD though | 21:04 |
| cjwatson | mario_limonciell: the .manifest file lists all the packages installed in the livefs, so you can check that way | 21:05 |
| xivulon | hmm not sure he says it was an iso issue, I will ask to avoid doubts | 21:05 |
| mario_limonciell | cjwatson, well that definitely shows it then. the manifests are significantly different | 21:06 |
| xivulon | cjwatson the only reason wubi would redownload when there is a CD is if the checksum of squashfs fails | 21:14 |
| xivulon | that is only tested when there is no internet connection (since with internet connection I assume I can get the md5 of the full iso). | 21:15 |
| xivulon | There used to be a bug whereby that check would always fail, but then again he would then not have been able to download the ISO... | 21:15 |
| cjwatson | evand: do you have anything more for the next upload? We should get that done ASAP if it's breaking wubi | 21:58 |
| evand | cjwatson: no, I'll do another upload later tonight for the rest of my work, but I agree, I'll do an upload now. | 22:08 |
| cjwatson | ok, cool | 22:11 |
| cjwatson | if you're going to do another one today anyway feel free to wait for that; I'm finishing up now anyway | 22:11 |
| evand | ok | 22:11 |
| xivulon | evan have uploaded rev481 | 22:25 |
| xivulon | to use nsis 2.36 rename the nsis folder and run make prerequisites | 22:25 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: on 208818: now that I look at it again, you don't need to use sed; I included detailed directions on using a real editor in the real system | 22:36 |
| cjwatson | "Boot with the 'break=casper-bottom' kernel parameter, run 'chroot /root nano /usr/bin/ubiquity-dm', ..." | 22:36 |
| xivulon | heh was about to try the same thing... I am crap at regex & co... | 22:37 |
| xivulon | downloading the iso now | 22:37 |
| * cjwatson -> housework then bed | 22:38 | |
| blahblahx | howdy folks | 23:30 |
| blahblahx | is it possible to edit the link for the release notes in ubiquity? | 23:30 |
| cjwatson | blahblahx: sorry, more detail? (I know the link you're referring to, just trying to figure out what you're trying to do) | 23:38 |
| cjwatson | is this for producing a custom image? | 23:38 |
| blahblahx | yes | 23:38 |
| blahblahx | and i have custom release notes | 23:38 |
| cjwatson | right, certainly | 23:39 |
| blahblahx | that i want the button to link to | 23:39 |
| cjwatson | the URL is in .disk/release_notes_url on the CD | 23:39 |
| blahblahx | where on the cd? | 23:39 |
| cjwatson | let me clarify. /.disk/release_notes_url on the CD | 23:39 |
| blahblahx | on the final iso? | 23:40 |
| cjwatson | yes | 23:40 |
| blahblahx | huh let me see | 23:40 |
| cjwatson | ${LANG} in the URL is replaced by the ISO-639-1 code for the language, if you want to internationalise your release notes | 23:40 |
| xivulon | evand 382 | 23:41 |
| blahblahx | what if for some reason i dont have a .disk folder on my final iso? | 23:41 |
| blahblahx | why would that be? | 23:41 |
| blahblahx | could i just create it if its not there? | 23:42 |
| cjwatson | blahblahx: perhaps because you used cp with a * wildcard to copy things over | 23:42 |
| blahblahx | cjwatson: actually i used reconstructor. | 23:43 |
| blahblahx | cjwatson: you know about it? | 23:43 |
| cjwatson | * does not match hidden files or directories (those whose names begin with .) | 23:43 |
| cjwatson | I know about reconstructor, but I didn't know it was so badly broken as to not include .disk | 23:43 |
| blahblahx | its not | 23:43 |
| blahblahx | i have seen other isos made with it that have .disk | 23:43 |
| cjwatson | .disk is required, so I suggest you grab an Ubuntu image, copy across its .disk, and tweak to suit you | 23:43 |
| blahblahx | am i supposed to have a .disc_id file in the main folder of my iso? | 23:44 |
| cjwatson | beware of the .disk/casper-uuid-generic file; you need to make that match conf/uuid.conf in the casper initrd, if there is one | 23:45 |
| cjwatson | I've never heard of .disc_id. The installer doesn't use it. | 23:45 |
| blahblahx | ahh thank you | 23:45 |
| blahblahx | cjwatson: because i had copied a .disk folder to my iso from a similar distro, but there were ubiquity errors. could that be from the uuid.conf? | 23:46 |
| cjwatson | if you got the casper-uuid-generic file wrong, then it wouldn't get as far as ubiquity; it would simply fail to boot | 23:46 |
| blahblahx | oh then nevermind its not that | 23:46 |
| blahblahx | oh wait disc_id is a reconstructor info file, nothing important | 23:47 |
| cjwatson | if there is a /conf/uuid.conf file in /casper/initrd.gz, then the CD is required to have a file matching /.disk/casper-uuid* with the same unique ID in it. (You can boot with the ignore_uuid parameter to skip this check.) This is so that you can put a rescue image on the hard disk that looks mostly like a live CD, without casper accidentally booting from it. | 23:48 |
| cjwatson | But if you aren't running into this, you don't need to care. | 23:48 |
| blahblahx | well the disk boots fine, but then when i open ubiquity, i get a language error like "language exited with error 127" | 23:48 |
| blahblahx | and it tells me to check my syslog | 23:48 |
| blahblahx | which i checked, but couldn't quite decode the part about ubiquity | 23:49 |
| cjwatson | I've heard a few reports of this, but either I haven't diagnosed it or I have forgotten what the result was. Could you please put the full syslog somewhere that I can see it? | 23:49 |
| blahblahx | shall i pastebin it? | 23:49 |
| cjwatson | yes, please | 23:49 |
| blahblahx | ok this pastebin that i post will be from the cd where i copied the .disk folder from another similar distro | 23:49 |
| blahblahx | gimmie a sec | 23:49 |
| blahblahx | should i post the entire syslog or just the parts with ubiquity in them? | 23:50 |
| cjwatson | the entire syslog, please | 23:51 |
| cjwatson | extra information is rarely harmful, and missing information can be painful to get past | 23:51 |
| blahblahx | cool | 23:52 |
| blahblahx | www.pastebin.com/m41bfb833 | 23:52 |
| Silicium | www.opensnom.org - the Open Snom Implementation | 23:52 |
| blahblahx | oh wait thats not a correct link | 23:53 |
| blahblahx | cjwatson: hold on ill post the real link | 23:53 |
| cjwatson | http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/ubuntu-paste may be useful; you can feed it data to pastebin on stdin | 23:53 |
| cjwatson | (not my work originally, though I forget where it came from) | 23:53 |
| cjwatson | Silicium: why's that relevant here? | 23:54 |
| cjwatson | (says it's based on Debian, not Ubuntu?) | 23:54 |
| Silicium | maybe :) | 23:54 |
| blahblahx | here its on pastebin.com and i put the name as blahblahx cjwatson | 23:54 |
| Silicium | debian | 23:54 |
| mario_limonciell | cjwatson, ooh neat toy | 23:54 |
| Silicium | p.eof.name | 23:54 |
| Silicium | blahblahx: | 23:54 |
| blahblahx | Silicium: yeah? | 23:54 |
| Silicium | ups | 23:55 |
| Silicium | wrong | 23:55 |
| cjwatson | blahblahx: err, sorry, no idea how I would search for that | 23:55 |
| cjwatson | oh, I see, the links on the left | 23:55 |
| blahblahx | cjwatson: right | 23:55 |
| cjwatson | http://pastebin.com/m776aaa31 ? | 23:55 |
| blahblahx | yup | 23:55 |
| cjwatson | blahblahx: please post /etc/lsb-release | 23:56 |
| blahblahx | on the livecd? | 23:56 |
| cjwatson | yes | 23:56 |
| blahblahx | ok one sec | 23:56 |
| xivulon | cjwatson, when I boot Xubuntu live cd I see ubuntu usplash | 23:58 |
| blahblahx | now its called blahblahx2 | 23:58 |
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