[04:50] <AliRezaTaleghani> hello
[04:50] <AliRezaTaleghani> i use hardy, 
[04:51] <AliRezaTaleghani> is their any i686-smp kernel for me?
[04:51] <AliRezaTaleghani> no idea?
[08:45] <kraut> moin
[10:17] <Ng> mjg59: so. the optical drive in the DL145 is 9.5mm where all the other HPs we have seem to be about 12mm
[10:17] <Ng> ie I have nothing to swap it out for :/
[10:42] <FXMaveric> hello
[12:10] <Ng> cking: the DL145 bios does have an option to present the SATA controller as PATA, trying that now
[12:11] <Ng> cking: doh, it's still full of fail
[12:11] <cking> Ng: bummer
[12:12] <Ng> I'll poke around the bios a little more to check there isn't anything else along those lines
[12:12] <Ng> normally that option does seem to specifically refer to AHCI, this just offers SATA/PATA
[12:13] <cking> The main problem is that the controller subsystem has changed a lot - so it's one of those corner issues where a quirk may need to be added :-(
[12:13] <elmargol> Hi if I inset my proxim wireless pccard into my laptop syslog is spammed wifi0: hardware error; resetting 
[12:14] <elmargol> and i get 100% system cpu usage
[12:14] <elmargol> The same card works on my other laptop
[12:15] <Ng> cking: hmm, no other options in the main system bios
[12:15]  * Ng checks for a sata controller bios
[12:16] <cking> Ng, Annoyingly, there are some possible kernel module tweaks one could try, but I don't know how to pass them down to the module on a LiveCD.
[12:17] <Ng> sata controller bios has no options
[12:17] <Ng> cking: I could at least try the options from the busybox shell
[12:18] <cking> Ng: Give me a little while and I will find some appropriate runes.
[12:19] <Ng> sure
[12:19] <Ng> I'm just going to have a quick check to see if there's an updated bios or something
[12:26] <cking> Ng: I suggest trying: options libata noacpi=1
[12:27] <Ng> cking: I'm going to try booting a gutsy alternate installer to check this definitely isn't a regression. beyond that I should hand this off to the server team - they can netboot it and yous can all get it seeing the CD drive. I don't think physical presence or actual CDs are necessary here since the issue is the thing not even being detected
[12:28] <Ng> (I will check that it netboots correctly though ;)
[12:28] <cking> Ng: OK makes sense.
[12:30] <xivulon> hi cking
[12:31] <cking> xivulon: hi there. How can I help?
[12:31] <xivulon> I believe that evand mentioned some issues with wubi and buffer i/o error
[12:31] <xivulon> I did some testing yesterday and found out the issue, but would appreciate some further help
[12:32] <cking> xivulon: good - I've been stuck trying to obtain a working XP system to experiment further.
[12:32] <xivulon> no need anymore :)
[12:32] <xivulon> this is the new problem
[12:32] <xivulon> basically wubi uses a nested filesystem, one problem is that data loss in the host filesystem (generally ntfs) may result in journal disruption in the hosted filesystem
[12:33] <xivulon> to minimize the problems, Szaka suggest to use sysctl settings that would minimize the use of cached disk data
[12:33] <cking> That makes sense
[12:33] <xivulon> what happened is that new version of the kernel (12) does not like the settings we always had
[12:34] <xivulon> and that resulted in the buffer I/O errors
[12:34] <cking> OK - any details on the settings being used?
[12:34] <xivulon> sure one sec
[12:35] <xivulon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/204133/comments/12
[12:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 204133 in wubi "wubi install unusable - Buffer I/O error on device loop0" [High,In progress] 
[12:36] <xivulon> so first point is: I am quite sure those settings used to work in the past, and I do not know if that is any reason of concern kernel-wise
[12:37] <xivulon> second point is: what would be a reasonable/safe set of settings to use in order to minimize hardreboot problems?
[12:37] <cking> xivulon: OK I will put some effort in this afternoon to see if they work.
[12:38] <xivulon> cking thanks, please post anything you find in the bug
[12:38] <cking> xivulon: 2nd point: good question. This needs some figuring out :-)
[12:38] <xivulon> great, looking forward to that!
[12:38] <cking> xivulon: Thanks for getting it so far. I got stuck on the XP enviroment to test this out, so you've helped me a huge amount.
[12:39] <cking> ..I also got side tracked on other stuff too :-(
[12:39] <xivulon> ah that wasn't strictly necessary, provided you have an ntfs partition (virtual or not) you can test on that...
[12:39] <xivulon> I could have provided a skeleton for the rest
[12:40] <cking> xivulon: I'll keep you posted... your help has been invaluable - collect 1 free virtual beer :-)
[12:40] <xivulon> ah thank you for looking into this!
[12:41] <cking> np - it's what we are here for.
[12:41]  * cking_lunch time for food
[12:43] <Ng> cking: 7.10 fails in exactly the same way as 8.04 with the same SRST error. 
[13:36] <rtg> zul: Please send a note to the kernel mailing list when you get xen patched. I won't be on IRC much today.
[13:36] <zul> rtg: sure...im doing a test build right now
[13:36] <rtg> zul: thanks
[13:40] <amitk> rtg: you in austin?
[13:41] <rtg> amitk: yep, getting ready to head out.
[15:37] <mjg59> Ng: Arse.
[15:43] <smb> zul: Are you currently working on bug 208281?
[15:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 208281 in iscsitarget "iscsitarget will not compile" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208281
[15:43] <zul> smb: Im trying to get a ffe for it for the universe one but yes I was
[15:43] <zul> smb: do you want me to fix the lum one?
[15:44] <smb> zul: I was about to ask whether I should do something or what. :) 
[15:45] <zul> smb: I was going to send a patch today once I fix this ebox problem :)
[15:45] <smb> zul: I guess soon enough. So I rather take care of your xen updates. 
[15:46] <zul> smb: ok
[15:46] <zul> xen updates builds fine and boots fine here
[15:47] <smb> zul: Ok, thanks
[16:30] <zul> smb: got an update but just have to see if it builds
[16:31] <smb> zul: ok
[17:19] <munckfish> Hi, re ps3-kboot update. Good new is I can now get the hardy daily live to boot on PS3, however, although the install kernel boots, the graphics are all messed up.
[17:19] <munckfish> and when it reaches X it's going to a sort of messed up failsafe 
[17:19] <munckfish> pseudo terms are also messed up
[17:20] <munckfish> I need to quickly work out if this is something left wrong from kboot or whether it's a new issue
[17:21] <munckfish> does anyone have any tips or links on how to debug the framebuffer graphics we use while booting up?
[17:21] <munckfish> I'm completely green to this whole part of Linux at the moment
[19:02] <infinity> Hrm, is anyone doing anything about the FTBFS of linux on all x86 arches (broken virtio configs)?
[19:03] <infinity> soren: I suppose the changelog might have you to blame...
[19:08] <amitk> infinity: it'll happen later today
[19:10] <infinity> amitk: Kay.  I was just about to kick off a rebuild test, and having the kernel FTBFS annoys me. :)
[19:10] <amitk> heh
[21:02] <IntuitiveNipple> Building the hardy git 'generic' flavour tonight I'm getting "previous or current ABI file missing" - it's building 2.6.24-16.29, is that correct (CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=4; fakeroot debian/rules  binary-generic binary-header) ?
[21:19] <amitk> IntuitiveNipple: it needs an ABI bump, will happen later today
[21:20] <IntuitiveNipple> Thanks Amit - I thought that was the case haivng looked at debian/abi/* but wanted to be sure
[21:21] <IntuitiveNipple> Didn't realise until the end of a long build... was trying to avoid starting from scratch with AUTOBUILD :)
[21:22] <amitk> IntuitiveNipple: you can add a skipabi=1 to the end to force a .deb if you want
[21:24] <IntuitiveNipple> Hmmm, I did try that but got ignored... thanks for that, I'll try it again later to see if I got it wrong somehow
[21:25] <IntuitiveNipple> ahh! I only put "skipabi", forgot the "=1" bit :p
[21:31] <sourcemaker> when I use vpn on linux... I receive the following message:  martian source, ll.. what's wrong?
[21:31] <sourcemaker> and my application does not work then
[21:39] <IntuitiveNipple> sourcemaker: A martian source is an invalid, non-routeable address... You'd be better off asking in ##linux or #ubuntu
[21:40] <sourcemaker> IntuitiveNipple: ok... thanks
[21:45] <amitk> IntuitiveNipple: thanks for the wiki update
[21:49] <IntuitiveNipple> you're welcome - I've lived on that page before so every little helps :)
[21:50] <IntuitiveNipple> The only thing I've left to work out is how to do a make-kpkg out-of-tree build 
[21:52] <IntuitiveNipple> Hopefully this build will give me a pure Ubuntu kernel with the i450NX patch in so I can sign off the failed PowerEdge server
[21:55] <elmo> IntuitiveNipple: the patch in that b ug report won't work on the server I originally reported it against, though, will it?
[21:57] <IntuitiveNipple> elmo: No, but if you want to provide the dmidecode output of the server, it can be added. I didn't want to add anything I'm not 100% sure about
[21:58] <IntuitiveNipple> It'd be best to test each one - unfortunately there's not an easy way aside from building a kernel that ignore the i450nx fix entirely.
[21:58] <elmo> IntuitiveNipple: I don't have an i450 in the machine though?
[21:58] <elmo> is what I meant
[21:59] <IntuitiveNipple> Did you manage to capture a boot log ?
[22:00] <elmo> I think there's a screenshot in the bug
[22:00] <elmo> oh, yes
[22:00] <elmo> because, haha!, if you wait 30+ minutes, it eventually finds the drives
[22:00] <elmo> and you can continue the boot
[22:03] <IntuitiveNipple> I was wondering more about a full serial console log, but, looking at your screenshots the aacraid module is loading so it's possible the causes of the "Disk offlined" messages are different. I switched to bugzilla in solving the bus issue - I maybe should create another Ubuntu bug report especially for this
[22:04] <elmo> yeah, we haven't upgraded firmware yet either, to rule that out
[22:04] <elmo> IntuitiveNipple: how did you update the firmware btw? 
[22:05] <IntuitiveNipple> I had some fun today - discovered the PERC2 is also a HP NetRAID 4M (Adaptec AAC364) and got one from ebay for £18!
[22:06] <IntuitiveNipple> Downloaded the Dell firmware DOS-floppy installer .exe, ran it from wine and wrote the files to the two floppies, then used them to update it
[22:06] <IntuitiveNipple> there's "afu.exe" (adaptec firmware updater) on the boot floppy
[22:07] <IntuitiveNipple> The battery on the PERC2 cache was failing and Dell don't do a replacement - got the NetRAID 4M, found a HP replacement part # on the battery, they cost US$128 minimum, so done well on that server today!
[22:09] <tormod> hi, bug #192772 could need some sponsor love before the freeze. It's assigned to Tim Gardner but he seems to hide.
[22:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192772 in linux-wlan-ng "please merge linux-wlan-ng 0.2.8+svn1851+dfsg-1 from Debian main unstable" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192772
[22:16] <soren> rtg: Did you get the kernel build sorted out?
[22:17] <smb> rtg might still be in transit
[22:17] <soren> smb: In transit? Fro/to?
[22:17] <soren> from, even.
[22:18] <smb> soren: From Linux Founation
[22:18] <soren> smb: To? :)
[22:18] <soren> smb:  I thought he'd be here until tomorrow sometime.
[22:18] <smb> soren: but the build should be ok now. 
[22:19] <soren> Ok. For a second I thought I was missing a patch, but looking at the changelog, it must be there already, so I'm slightly more calm now.
[22:19] <smb> soren: Hm, got the impression he was travelling today, but I might be totally wrong
[22:21] <smb> soren: We had two updates from alessio and chuck to get xen and rt building again
[22:21] <soren> smb: Alright.
[22:46] <IntuitiveNipple> elmo: I've redone the i450NX bus issue as bug #214814
[22:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 214814 in linux "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 61s!" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214814
[22:49] <Amaranth> tjaalton: so should i file a bug for the dh_strip stuff? I've got a report that installing from the .run file fixes the yellow/pink/etc shadows in compiz so it seems stripping the files is causing this problem
[22:49] <Amaranth> oh, you probably aren't here :P
[22:52] <elmo> IntuitiveNipple: ah, ok, thanks.  shame.  I don't suppose you want to debug by PE for me? ;-)
[22:55] <IntuitiveNipple> Well whilst I'm on a roll... want to PM me about it?
[23:09] <elmo> IntuitiveNipple: heh, I was mostly kidding - thanks though
[23:09] <IntuitiveNipple> :) It looks simply enough