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ahaveis there a way to lookup what HD freq table and modulation type my cable provider uses? (comcast in USA)00:06
ahaveis there a way to lookup what HD freq table and modulation type my cable provider uses? (comcast in USA)00:18
c3rb3rus5ahave: it will probably be much more local then that, apparently they can change based on local office00:20
ahavec3rb3rus5, hmm. so how does one know which to use?00:20
ahavecan i call and ask?00:20
c3rb3rus5can't you scan?00:21
c3rb3rus5i use a firewire connection, so i dont use those tables00:21
ahaveyes, i can scan00:21
c3rb3rus5you are looking for OTA QAM?00:21
ahaveover cable00:21
c3rb3rus5yea00:21
c3rb3rus5QAM00:22
ahavei did one scan, and i suppose it worked.. but i seem to be missing a few channels and i also gained alot of channels that are not digital..00:22
c3rb3rus5hrm, i can't realy halp out too much on channel scanning.. i had no lock when i tried to use my tuner card00:23
c3rb3rus5luck too00:23
ahavedo you get a horizontal bar of black&white 'fuzz' at the top of your video?.. i do on all the HD channels00:25
c3rb3rus5ahave: look here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=4500:27
c3rb3rus5ahave: no, i don't have any type of distortion, but again, i'm using set top box through firewire00:27
c3rb3rus5ahave: check your monitor / tv settings, it might be set to 4:3 and scaling the HD content to fit a square leaving you with not so fun bars00:33
c3rb3rus5or i might be grabbins at straws00:34
ahavewell, this channel happend to be in 4:300:34
c3rb3rus5in hD?00:34
ahaveor should i let Mythtv do teh scaling00:34
ahavedigital channel, yes00:34
c3rb3rus5i just let myth figure it out00:34
c3rb3rus5i have it hooked up to a 32" hdtv00:34
c3rb3rus5set myth to the 16:9 ratio and let it figure out everything else00:35
ahaveyup, still there00:37
c3rb3rus5:(00:37
ahavehmm, it seems to only be on digital signals that are in 4:3 ratio00:39
ahave(but i do not get the noise when using the tuner in my tv)00:39
c3rb3rus5hmmm should i install the latest beta of mythbuntu, or wait for the full version in 15 days...00:51
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MythbuntuGuest49Hi, after fresh install, HDHomerun tuner is not available unless I go to mythTV setup and then go back to the frontend.  Any tips?  (using latest beta)02:58
superm1MythbuntuGuest49, try setting up dhcp in network-admin03:01
superm1rather than network manager03:01
superm1sucks that bug is *still* around03:01
superm1i thought we fixed it03:01
c3rb3rus5random off topic question, but is there any way program in linux that behaves similar to ghost or acronis on windows?03:02
superm1MythbuntuGuest49, austin.res.rr.com, ah you local to the austin area then?03:02
MythbuntuGuest49i'll try that.  Thanks superml03:02
MythbuntuGuest49yes, I'm in Austin, you?03:02
superm1MythbuntuGuest49, yeah03:02
superm1i just moved down here maybe 1.5-2 mo ago03:02
c3rb3rus5uhm... any program... not any way program...  i cant think straight today03:03
superm1c3rb3rus5, ghost4linux is available03:03
MythbuntuGuest49partimage, c3rb..03:03
MythbuntuGuest49I moved here about 2 years ago..  you liking it here?03:03
superm1yeah, i'm still adjusting to the weather03:03
superm1today was quite brutal03:04
superm1first day i've turned on my AC03:04
c3rb3rus5partimage has the same backup / recovery functionality?  well... more or less?03:04
MythbuntuGuest49brutal?  It was nice! Where are you from?03:04
superm1midwest, chicago and iowa03:04
MythbuntuGuest49I've never used ghost, but partimage does what I think ghost does... not the same format though03:04
* superm1 has a feeling he is in for a beating as summer gets closer :)03:05
MythbuntuGuest49oh yeah...  you ain't seen nothin' yet!03:05
superm1MythbuntuGuest49, so being down here, by chance have you futzed around with TWC's firewire support?03:05
MythbuntuGuest49no..  great question though.  I'd love to know if it works.03:06
superm1well i just picked up a box03:06
MythbuntuGuest49which box is it?03:06
superm1and i get the HD locals and BBC america via firewire03:06
superm1that's it....03:06
superm1sa4240hdc03:06
superm1it's one of the cable card models, so it behaves different enough that sa3250ch script doesnt work, but the internal channel changer in myth can handle it03:07
MythbuntuGuest49yeah, you can get that without a box with the HDHomerun.. and Discovery channel for some reason is also unencrypted..03:07
superm1discovery hd is unencrypted???03:07
superm1for QAM you mean?03:07
MythbuntuGuest49Yeah, QAM.03:07
MythbuntuGuest49Not sure why, but its there.03:07
superm1oh i'll have to redo my QAM scans for my hdhomerun then03:07
superm1i didnt see it the first time around03:07
superm1for the digital cable box though, its all CCI 0x2 for everything but the channels i mentioned03:08
superm1so i was going to start climbing the support chain until i got to an engineer hopefully03:08
MythbuntuGuest49That sucks..03:08
superm1to see if that can get changed03:08
MythbuntuGuest49I should probably call, too.. the more calls the better I guess.03:09
superm1well the more the merrier i suppose :)03:09
superm1i was hoping someone had already done this at some point for this area03:09
superm1and had some contacts local to this TWC region03:09
superm1i've had to do this in the past with other cable companies03:09
superm1and it just takes ages and/or persistence to get anywhere03:10
MythbuntuGuest49we'll I'm sorta new to this stuff, so I was trying to avoid anything above the basics at this point03:10
superm1ah03:12
superm1well then dont worry as of yet03:12
superm1but if you want to join the band of folks to complain, in the future03:12
superm1lets get all the mythtv users in Austin03:12
superm1and go in at lunch i say03:12
superm1and demand to sit down with an engineer03:12
superm1:)03:12
MythbuntuGuest49I'm down with that.03:13
superm1for now i set up the box as an input group03:13
superm1so i record everything via svideo cept BBC america03:13
superm1so its not a "fully" lost cuase03:13
superm1*cause03:13
MythbuntuGuest49with an irblaster?03:13
superm1well..03:13
superm1i ended up pulling all the channel changer code out of mythtv's source03:13
superm1and into my own very poorly accepted binary03:14
superm1assembled03:14
MythbuntuGuest49thats pretty hardcore...03:14
MythbuntuGuest49Besides the weather, how is Austin treating you so far?03:14
KillerKiwi2005__lol.... whats wrong with a channel changing script03:15
superm1well i did start the mythbuntu project mind you, so i am a bit hardcore :)03:15
MythbuntuGuest49cool, I just found it.03:15
superm1none of the scripts that are out can change for the sa4240hdc03:15
MythbuntuGuest49It is freakin' great.  Its great to say thanks to the dude behind it.03:15
superm1i'd like to write something that just uses libmythtv in the future, so as to make these other scripts a bit pointless03:15
superm1i'm glad to see word gets around for it so well without much advertising for it :)03:16
MythbuntuGuest49wow, I've used knoppmyth, plain ubuntu + myth, and now this.  It is really put together well.03:16
MythbuntuGuest49One question, though...03:17
superm1sure03:17
MythbuntuGuest49The hd tv playback is choppy whereas,03:18
MythbuntuGuest49my last install wasn't.  not sure what is different in the mix.03:18
superm1well 8.04 or 7.10 to start?03:18
KillerKiwi2005__superm1: is there a reason ubuntu dosn't auto create udev rules for all devices... instead of just having /dev/video0 , /dev/video1 ?03:18
superm1and if 7.10 are you on Myth 0.21?03:18
MythbuntuGuest498.04 mythbuntu03:18
superm1KillerKiwi2005__, talk to keescook about that03:18
superm1he started to go down that route to make some udev rules03:19
superm1but i dont think that ever came to fruition for one reason or another03:19
superm1MythbuntuGuest49, okay so 0.21 based myth03:19
MythbuntuGuest49yes03:19
superm1MythbuntuGuest49, the thing is that for 0.21 the default deinterlacer is more cpu intensive03:19
superm1so you can pick a less intensive video playback profile03:19
superm1and that usually resolves it03:19
superm1if not, there are a few areas that i can recommend to try to improve performance03:20
MythbuntuGuest49I'll try that first..  sound like it will probably work03:20
KillerKiwi2005__superm1: it would be cool to have.... /dev/video_pvr150_pci1 would be nive03:20
superm1KillerKiwi2005__, yeah that's what the plan was with the udev rules03:20
superm1from what i remember, it boiled down to how to easily pull that information into an accessible form to use for the udev rules03:21
superm1and upstream had some qualms03:21
superm1you'll have to see what keescook says about it though03:21
KillerKiwi2005__its not hard... just scrape the stout03:21
KillerKiwi2005__and a few re expressions03:21
superm1well it was a fundamental problem that was wrong with it03:22
superm1again i dont know the details, just messenger here.03:22
KillerKiwi2005__ok03:22
c3rb3rus5_friedcso i think that i just witnesed my computer fry03:22
superm1MythbuntuGuest49, hopefully that should take care of it.03:22
KillerKiwi2005__was there smoke ?03:22
c3rb3rus5_friedcnah, there was a staticy sound that came form the speakers03:22
c3rb3rus5_friedckinda like a gsm phone about to ring03:22
KillerKiwi2005__printer power lead into laptop == smoke coming from keyboard03:23
c3rb3rus5_friedcthen the screen went blank03:23
superm1MythbuntuGuest49, but as for other stuff w/ Austin, i'm starting to get adjusted.  my only issue would be that all of my coworkers are 10+ years older than myself, so there is always a bit of an age barrier there03:23
superm1MythbuntuGuest49, (i'm just out of school before I came down here)03:23
c3rb3rus5_friedcso i try to reboot, hangs on drive detection03:24
c3rb3rus5_friedcand now win won't boot, not even into safe mode... :(  and i cant even see what the damn bsod is03:24
c3rb3rus5_friedcstupid windows03:24
c3rb3rus5_friedcwrong forum to be complaining about win, i know... but i'm pretty sure this is hardwar related03:25
superm1well drives die03:25
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superm1so it happens03:25
superm1do a run of DFT on it03:25
superm1and see how it spits out03:25
c3rb3rus5dft = drive fitness test?03:26
superm1yeah03:27
superm1hitachi makes it03:27
c3rb3rus5ok03:27
c3rb3rus5its not specific to their drives is it?03:27
superm1nope03:28
c3rb3rus5hope its not the HD.. that might be the worst of all posssibilities...03:29
MythbuntuGuest49that helped bigtime, superml.  Thanks.03:29
superm1no prob03:33
c3rb3rus5um... i'm gonna gues that its bad if the bootable DFT disk does not respond after booting... and keypresses make the computer speaker sounds like a frog03:34
MythbuntuGuest49hey, superml, I gotta run, but if I can help with the austin TW thing, let me know.03:37
MythbuntuGuest49or if you have any q's about Austin, I might be able to help you.03:37
MythbuntuGuest49is it bad form to give you my email via irc?03:37
superm1MythbuntuGuest49, you can email me03:39
superm1superm1@ubuntu.com03:39
superm1i put it out publicly :)03:39
superm1you dont have to put yours out publicly though03:39
MythbuntuGuest49i'll shoot you a line in a minute.03:39
MythbuntuGuest49Welcome to Austin.  Thanks again for the help.03:39
c3rb3rus5update: apparently the SATA drives are not detecting consistently...03:47
puckHey, I was just wondering if mythtv-status had made it into the mythbuntu 8.04 betas?09:34
MythbuntuGuest40?13:40
Pasteurizedhi all15:10
superm1puck, it's in apt, it should be by default for the RC15:53
Wobboi am trying to test 8.0421:25
Wobbobut when booting live cd, after a while, it gives me an error21:26
Wobboone sec21:26
Wobboill write down the error21:26
Wobboseems it doesn't occur in safe graphics mode21:30
atlanta80anyone here?23:25
tgm4883_laptop!ask | atlanta8023:27
ubotuatlanta80: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)23:27
atlanta80I mean, technically I wasn't asking about asking a question, lol23:27
tgm4883_laptop!hello23:28
ubotuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv!23:28
atlanta80but anyways, I have slight annoyance, when I go into the Video Manager the text "Loading.." appears over the top of all the movie info as well as the menu when I bring it up23:28
atlanta80I could post a screenshot if necessary23:29
tgm4883_laptopyea do that23:29
atlanta80hmmm, maybe never taken a SS in XFCE23:30
tgm4883_laptophmm23:31
tgm4883_laptopprintscreen?23:31
atlanta80no go, I'm running a stock Mythbuntu 7.10 so I don't have very many apps installed23:32
tgm4883_laptophmm, interesting23:32
atlanta80one moment, installing xfce4-screenshot-plugin23:34
atlanta80wow, never thought figuring out how to take a screenshot could be so involved23:38
tgm4883_laptopyea it really should be included by default23:43
atlanta80Finally, ok here we go: https://filebox.vt.edu/users/jawil06/Public/MythTV/23:53
atlanta80that's what it is doing23:53
directhexnever seen that happen23:57
tgm4883_laptoprun the frontend from a terminal and see if it says anything about it23:57
atlanta80I've looked at /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log and this is what I get everytime I load the Video Manager http://pastebin.com/m69f0edc123:59

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