[00:06] <ahave> is there a way to lookup what HD freq table and modulation type my cable provider uses? (comcast in USA)
[00:18] <ahave> is there a way to lookup what HD freq table and modulation type my cable provider uses? (comcast in USA)
[00:20] <c3rb3rus5> ahave: it will probably be much more local then that, apparently they can change based on local office
[00:20] <ahave> c3rb3rus5, hmm. so how does one know which to use?
[00:20] <ahave> can i call and ask?
[00:21] <c3rb3rus5> can't you scan?
[00:21] <c3rb3rus5> i use a firewire connection, so i dont use those tables
[00:21] <ahave> yes, i can scan
[00:21] <c3rb3rus5> you are looking for OTA QAM?
[00:21] <ahave> over cable
[00:21] <c3rb3rus5> yea
[00:22] <c3rb3rus5> QAM
[00:22] <ahave> i did one scan, and i suppose it worked.. but i seem to be missing a few channels and i also gained alot of channels that are not digital..
[00:23] <c3rb3rus5> hrm, i can't realy halp out too much on channel scanning.. i had no lock when i tried to use my tuner card
[00:23] <c3rb3rus5> luck too
[00:25] <ahave> do you get a horizontal bar of black&white 'fuzz' at the top of your video?.. i do on all the HD channels
[00:27] <c3rb3rus5> ahave: look here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=45
[00:27] <c3rb3rus5> ahave: no, i don't have any type of distortion, but again, i'm using set top box through firewire
[00:33] <c3rb3rus5> ahave: check your monitor / tv settings, it might be set to 4:3 and scaling the HD content to fit a square leaving you with not so fun bars
[00:34] <c3rb3rus5> or i might be grabbins at straws
[00:34] <ahave> well, this channel happend to be in 4:3
[00:34] <c3rb3rus5> in hD?
[00:34] <ahave> or should i let Mythtv do teh scaling
[00:34] <ahave> digital channel, yes
[00:34] <c3rb3rus5> i just let myth figure it out
[00:34] <c3rb3rus5> i have it hooked up to a 32" hdtv
[00:35] <c3rb3rus5> set myth to the 16:9 ratio and let it figure out everything else
[00:37] <ahave> yup, still there
[00:37] <c3rb3rus5> :(
[00:39] <ahave> hmm, it seems to only be on digital signals that are in 4:3 ratio
[00:39] <ahave> (but i do not get the noise when using the tuner in my tv)
[00:51] <c3rb3rus5> hmmm should i install the latest beta of mythbuntu, or wait for the full version in 15 days...
[02:58] <MythbuntuGuest49> Hi, after fresh install, HDHomerun tuner is not available unless I go to mythTV setup and then go back to the frontend.  Any tips?  (using latest beta)
[03:01] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest49, try setting up dhcp in network-admin
[03:01] <superm1> rather than network manager
[03:01] <superm1> sucks that bug is *still* around
[03:01] <superm1> i thought we fixed it
[03:02] <c3rb3rus5> random off topic question, but is there any way program in linux that behaves similar to ghost or acronis on windows?
[03:02] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest49, austin.res.rr.com, ah you local to the austin area then?
[03:02] <MythbuntuGuest49> i'll try that.  Thanks superml
[03:02] <MythbuntuGuest49> yes, I'm in Austin, you?
[03:02] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest49, yeah
[03:02] <superm1> i just moved down here maybe 1.5-2 mo ago
[03:03] <c3rb3rus5> uhm... any program... not any way program...  i cant think straight today
[03:03] <superm1> c3rb3rus5, ghost4linux is available
[03:03] <MythbuntuGuest49> partimage, c3rb..
[03:03] <MythbuntuGuest49> I moved here about 2 years ago..  you liking it here?
[03:03] <superm1> yeah, i'm still adjusting to the weather
[03:04] <superm1> today was quite brutal
[03:04] <superm1> first day i've turned on my AC
[03:04] <c3rb3rus5> partimage has the same backup / recovery functionality?  well... more or less?
[03:04] <MythbuntuGuest49> brutal?  It was nice! Where are you from?
[03:04] <superm1> midwest, chicago and iowa
[03:04] <MythbuntuGuest49> I've never used ghost, but partimage does what I think ghost does... not the same format though
[03:05]  * superm1 has a feeling he is in for a beating as summer gets closer :)
[03:05] <MythbuntuGuest49> oh yeah...  you ain't seen nothin' yet!
[03:05] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest49, so being down here, by chance have you futzed around with TWC's firewire support?
[03:06] <MythbuntuGuest49> no..  great question though.  I'd love to know if it works.
[03:06] <superm1> well i just picked up a box
[03:06] <MythbuntuGuest49> which box is it?
[03:06] <superm1> and i get the HD locals and BBC america via firewire
[03:06] <superm1> that's it....
[03:06] <superm1> sa4240hdc
[03:07] <superm1> it's one of the cable card models, so it behaves different enough that sa3250ch script doesnt work, but the internal channel changer in myth can handle it
[03:07] <MythbuntuGuest49> yeah, you can get that without a box with the HDHomerun.. and Discovery channel for some reason is also unencrypted..
[03:07] <superm1> discovery hd is unencrypted???
[03:07] <superm1> for QAM you mean?
[03:07] <MythbuntuGuest49> Yeah, QAM.
[03:07] <MythbuntuGuest49> Not sure why, but its there.
[03:07] <superm1> oh i'll have to redo my QAM scans for my hdhomerun then
[03:07] <superm1> i didnt see it the first time around
[03:08] <superm1> for the digital cable box though, its all CCI 0x2 for everything but the channels i mentioned
[03:08] <superm1> so i was going to start climbing the support chain until i got to an engineer hopefully
[03:08] <MythbuntuGuest49> That sucks..
[03:08] <superm1> to see if that can get changed
[03:09] <MythbuntuGuest49> I should probably call, too.. the more calls the better I guess.
[03:09] <superm1> well the more the merrier i suppose :)
[03:09] <superm1> i was hoping someone had already done this at some point for this area
[03:09] <superm1> and had some contacts local to this TWC region
[03:09] <superm1> i've had to do this in the past with other cable companies
[03:10] <superm1> and it just takes ages and/or persistence to get anywhere
[03:10] <MythbuntuGuest49> we'll I'm sorta new to this stuff, so I was trying to avoid anything above the basics at this point
[03:12] <superm1> ah
[03:12] <superm1> well then dont worry as of yet
[03:12] <superm1> but if you want to join the band of folks to complain, in the future
[03:12] <superm1> lets get all the mythtv users in Austin
[03:12] <superm1> and go in at lunch i say
[03:12] <superm1> and demand to sit down with an engineer
[03:12] <superm1> :)
[03:13] <MythbuntuGuest49> I'm down with that.
[03:13] <superm1> for now i set up the box as an input group
[03:13] <superm1> so i record everything via svideo cept BBC america
[03:13] <superm1> so its not a "fully" lost cuase
[03:13] <superm1> *cause
[03:13] <MythbuntuGuest49> with an irblaster?
[03:13] <superm1> well..
[03:13] <superm1> i ended up pulling all the channel changer code out of mythtv's source
[03:14] <superm1> and into my own very poorly accepted binary
[03:14] <superm1> assembled
[03:14] <MythbuntuGuest49> thats pretty hardcore...
[03:14] <MythbuntuGuest49> Besides the weather, how is Austin treating you so far?
[03:15] <KillerKiwi2005__> lol.... whats wrong with a channel changing script
[03:15] <superm1> well i did start the mythbuntu project mind you, so i am a bit hardcore :)
[03:15] <MythbuntuGuest49> cool, I just found it.
[03:15] <superm1> none of the scripts that are out can change for the sa4240hdc
[03:15] <MythbuntuGuest49> It is freakin' great.  Its great to say thanks to the dude behind it.
[03:15] <superm1> i'd like to write something that just uses libmythtv in the future, so as to make these other scripts a bit pointless
[03:16] <superm1> i'm glad to see word gets around for it so well without much advertising for it :)
[03:16] <MythbuntuGuest49> wow, I've used knoppmyth, plain ubuntu + myth, and now this.  It is really put together well.
[03:17] <MythbuntuGuest49> One question, though...
[03:17] <superm1> sure
[03:18] <MythbuntuGuest49> The hd tv playback is choppy whereas,
[03:18] <MythbuntuGuest49> my last install wasn't.  not sure what is different in the mix.
[03:18] <superm1> well 8.04 or 7.10 to start?
[03:18] <KillerKiwi2005__> superm1: is there a reason ubuntu dosn't auto create udev rules for all devices... instead of just having /dev/video0 , /dev/video1 ?
[03:18] <superm1> and if 7.10 are you on Myth 0.21?
[03:18] <MythbuntuGuest49> 8.04 mythbuntu
[03:18] <superm1> KillerKiwi2005__, talk to keescook about that
[03:19] <superm1> he started to go down that route to make some udev rules
[03:19] <superm1> but i dont think that ever came to fruition for one reason or another
[03:19] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest49, okay so 0.21 based myth
[03:19] <MythbuntuGuest49> yes
[03:19] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest49, the thing is that for 0.21 the default deinterlacer is more cpu intensive
[03:19] <superm1> so you can pick a less intensive video playback profile
[03:19] <superm1> and that usually resolves it
[03:20] <superm1> if not, there are a few areas that i can recommend to try to improve performance
[03:20] <MythbuntuGuest49> I'll try that first..  sound like it will probably work
[03:20] <KillerKiwi2005__> superm1: it would be cool to have.... /dev/video_pvr150_pci1 would be nive
[03:20] <superm1> KillerKiwi2005__, yeah that's what the plan was with the udev rules
[03:21] <superm1> from what i remember, it boiled down to how to easily pull that information into an accessible form to use for the udev rules
[03:21] <superm1> and upstream had some qualms
[03:21] <superm1> you'll have to see what keescook says about it though
[03:21] <KillerKiwi2005__> its not hard... just scrape the stout
[03:21] <KillerKiwi2005__> and a few re expressions
[03:22] <superm1> well it was a fundamental problem that was wrong with it
[03:22] <superm1> again i dont know the details, just messenger here.
[03:22] <KillerKiwi2005__> ok
[03:22] <c3rb3rus5_friedc> so i think that i just witnesed my computer fry
[03:22] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest49, hopefully that should take care of it.
[03:22] <KillerKiwi2005__> was there smoke ?
[03:22] <c3rb3rus5_friedc> nah, there was a staticy sound that came form the speakers
[03:22] <c3rb3rus5_friedc> kinda like a gsm phone about to ring
[03:23] <KillerKiwi2005__> printer power lead into laptop == smoke coming from keyboard
[03:23] <c3rb3rus5_friedc> then the screen went blank
[03:23] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest49, but as for other stuff w/ Austin, i'm starting to get adjusted.  my only issue would be that all of my coworkers are 10+ years older than myself, so there is always a bit of an age barrier there
[03:23] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest49, (i'm just out of school before I came down here)
[03:24] <c3rb3rus5_friedc> so i try to reboot, hangs on drive detection
[03:24] <c3rb3rus5_friedc> and now win won't boot, not even into safe mode... :(  and i cant even see what the damn bsod is
[03:24] <c3rb3rus5_friedc> stupid windows
[03:25] <c3rb3rus5_friedc> wrong forum to be complaining about win, i know... but i'm pretty sure this is hardwar related
[03:25] <superm1> well drives die
[03:25] <superm1> so it happens
[03:25] <superm1> do a run of DFT on it
[03:25] <superm1> and see how it spits out
[03:26] <c3rb3rus5> dft = drive fitness test?
[03:27] <superm1> yeah
[03:27] <superm1> hitachi makes it
[03:27] <c3rb3rus5> ok
[03:27] <c3rb3rus5> its not specific to their drives is it?
[03:28] <superm1> nope
[03:29] <c3rb3rus5> hope its not the HD.. that might be the worst of all posssibilities...
[03:29] <MythbuntuGuest49> that helped bigtime, superml.  Thanks.
[03:33] <superm1> no prob
[03:34] <c3rb3rus5> um... i'm gonna gues that its bad if the bootable DFT disk does not respond after booting... and keypresses make the computer speaker sounds like a frog
[03:37] <MythbuntuGuest49> hey, superml, I gotta run, but if I can help with the austin TW thing, let me know.
[03:37] <MythbuntuGuest49> or if you have any q's about Austin, I might be able to help you.
[03:37] <MythbuntuGuest49> is it bad form to give you my email via irc?
[03:39] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest49, you can email me
[03:39] <superm1> superm1@ubuntu.com
[03:39] <superm1> i put it out publicly :)
[03:39] <superm1> you dont have to put yours out publicly though
[03:39] <MythbuntuGuest49> i'll shoot you a line in a minute.
[03:39] <MythbuntuGuest49> Welcome to Austin.  Thanks again for the help.
[03:47] <c3rb3rus5> update: apparently the SATA drives are not detecting consistently...
[09:34] <puck> Hey, I was just wondering if mythtv-status had made it into the mythbuntu 8.04 betas?
[13:40] <MythbuntuGuest40> ?
[15:10] <Pasteurized> hi all
[15:53] <superm1> puck, it's in apt, it should be by default for the RC
[21:25] <Wobbo> i am trying to test 8.04
[21:26] <Wobbo> but when booting live cd, after a while, it gives me an error
[21:26] <Wobbo> one sec
[21:26] <Wobbo> ill write down the error
[21:30] <Wobbo> seems it doesn't occur in safe graphics mode
[23:25] <atlanta80> anyone here?
[23:27] <tgm4883_laptop> !ask | atlanta80
[23:27] <ubotu> atlanta80: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:27] <atlanta80> I mean, technically I wasn't asking about asking a question, lol
[23:28] <tgm4883_laptop> !hello
[23:28] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv!
[23:28] <atlanta80> but anyways, I have slight annoyance, when I go into the Video Manager the text "Loading.." appears over the top of all the movie info as well as the menu when I bring it up
[23:29] <atlanta80> I could post a screenshot if necessary
[23:29] <tgm4883_laptop> yea do that
[23:30] <atlanta80> hmmm, maybe never taken a SS in XFCE
[23:31] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[23:31] <tgm4883_laptop> printscreen?
[23:32] <atlanta80> no go, I'm running a stock Mythbuntu 7.10 so I don't have very many apps installed
[23:32] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, interesting
[23:34] <atlanta80> one moment, installing xfce4-screenshot-plugin
[23:38] <atlanta80> wow, never thought figuring out how to take a screenshot could be so involved
[23:43] <tgm4883_laptop> yea it really should be included by default
[23:53] <atlanta80> Finally, ok here we go: https://filebox.vt.edu/users/jawil06/Public/MythTV/
[23:53] <atlanta80> that's what it is doing
[23:57] <directhex> never seen that happen
[23:57] <tgm4883_laptop> run the frontend from a terminal and see if it says anything about it
[23:59] <atlanta80> I've looked at /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log and this is what I get everytime I load the Video Manager http://pastebin.com/m69f0edc1