[00:04] what is avahi deamon for? [00:05] quittt: advertising your services on the net [00:06] ?? [00:06] also for ad hoc networking [00:06] what is ad hoc? [00:06] without servers or routers [00:07] for example firends come over and you want to make a local lan to play games [00:07] why should I need it? [00:07] I have it disabled [00:07] never needed it [00:08] x font server? [00:08] there is documentation for all this, just google [00:09] you can run w3m if your computer is slow, that's good enough for text browsing [00:10] do you use cron? [00:10] only anacron [00:10] no cron or atd [00:10] why? [00:10] is anacron better? [00:11] anacron runs scheduled jobs at startup/shutdown [00:11] cron runs them at specified time [00:11] aaaa [00:11] since this is a desktop computer, it gets poweroff frequently [00:11] does it regulate update manager? [00:11] and makedev? [00:12] no idea, I have the update manageralso disabled, I do updates manually [00:12] hehe [00:12] for me, Xubuntu desktop is perfect [00:12] makedev is a script that's run at startup to create the device nodes in /dev/, it's needed [00:12] but my PC sucks =/ [00:12] ohh [00:12] you can really find all this easily with google [00:13] I gotta go sleep, 1 am here [00:13] ok [00:13] good night [00:22] hey Stroganoff [00:22] hi [00:22] your icebuntu script is still running here... [00:22] what is it doing? [00:22] I hope it doesn't use up all space before finished :-) [00:23] still setting up packages... gsfonts right now [00:23] k [00:23] thanks for adding network-manager [00:23] i hope you havent chosen too many packages :D [00:23] yes :-) [00:23] will see... [00:23] I have made a copy of the command-line online install from the SD card [00:24] so can retry if it runs out of space now [00:24] i haven't updated yet, you have to install gnome-system-tools manually to get network manager working [00:25] ok [00:26] hmm... is the wrong md5sum in gutsys flash packages still not fixed, or has adobe released yet another update? [00:26] :-/ [00:30] i ran the script 3 hours ago including flash [00:30] oh [00:31] it said the usual "md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz" message [00:31] not fatal, I will try a reinstall of flash later [00:34] well it has finished! [00:34] apparently without running out of space [00:35] lets see how it comes up :-) [00:39] !flash [00:39] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [00:41] Stroganoff: nice work :-D [00:41] ^^ [00:41] it boots up fine and gives a good desktop [00:41] sudo apt-ret install orage dates- [00:42] just now i replaced dates with orage (calender on doubleclick-clock), is much faster [00:43] another bug: toolbar still shows firefox instead of swiftfox [00:43] mousepad ~/.icewm/toolbar [00:43] how can I start swiftfox manually? [00:43] last release was kidn of rushed :D [00:43] :-) [00:43] swiftfox is in the main menu [00:44] i'd edit the toolbar config [00:44] wait, I think I didn't select swiftfox during installation [00:45] the swiftfox repository is included nonetheless [00:45] ok, I have 477 MB left... [00:46] 1.2G used (plus 500 MB for swap) [00:46] that much swap [00:46] are you going to run photoshop? ;) [00:46] heh :-) [00:46] I simply used default settings... [00:47] but usually I have too few RAM/swap on any computer :-/ [00:54] does hibernate work? [00:54] moment, will try... [00:55] http://ubuntu-eee.tuxfamily.org/index.php5?title=How_to:_use_custom_Eee_Linux_kernel === danielm_ is now known as danielm [00:57] it didn't hibernate when closing the lid (probably needs an acpi handler script) [00:57] but it shut off and locked screen [00:57] the acpi deamon is selectable in my script [00:57] ok [00:59] you have to edit /etc/acpi/events/lidbtn to make it hibernate on lidclose [00:59] i should add this to my script [01:00] those are the eee-specific customizations [01:01] ok, pressing power button starts suspend, but it then fails with "not enough swap space" (?) [01:01] I will look at that tommorrow... [01:01] it's quite late again :-)# [01:01] thanks again for your script! [01:01] see you [01:01] cu [01:26] I tried booting the xubuntu disk just now 7.10 and it seemed to not send any signals to the display, is this a known problem with the nvidia drivers with xubuntu? I have been able to use the plain ubuntu disk without issue [01:27] it is the same driver [01:27] ok is there any reason it shouldnt work then? [01:28] maybe the disk is corrupt [01:28] ah ok ill check that [01:47] hi everyone [01:47] good morning doodler [01:48] morning? where are you? [01:48] at my desk [01:48] amazing [01:48] ^^ [01:49] even after uninstalling thunar-volman thunar [01:49] ..is still able to detect and mount my usb drives [01:49] on the other hand gnome-volume-manager is not working [01:49] (after uninstalling thunar-volman and rebooting) [01:50] doesnt ivman handle automounts [01:54] whoops [02:01] ok ivman mounts the cdrom but not usb [02:05] installing usbmount [02:06] i forget how to config xserver...any help ? [02:07] lol..nvm [02:07] i just scroll up [02:07] ctrl+f [02:21] when is the 8.10 version released? [02:21] 8.04 * [02:29] ok. i try recovery terminal and rundpkg-reconfigure xserver.org. im told xserver isnt installed. any ideas ? [02:29] rebootingh [03:35] How do I appear the title bar again? [03:35] I don't know where is it [03:35] n-iCe: the title bar? [03:35] are you using compiz? [03:35] I uninstalled it :| [03:36] you uninstalled compiz? [03:36] yes [03:36] oh shit [03:36] I used compiz --replace [03:36] and compiz is back :| [03:37] ok [03:37] what the heck [03:37] in the future, you can go to #compiz for compiz support [03:37] how do I uninstall it all [03:37] this isn't really a compiz support channel. [03:37] but how do I unintall it [03:37] sudo apt-get uninstall compiz? [03:37] hehe... sorry [03:38] that's whay I did! [03:38] sudo apt-get remove compiz [03:38] that's whay I did! [03:38] then you'll need to log out and log back in [03:38] what [03:38] I did! I rebooted [03:38] same thing right? [03:38] hm [03:39] sudo apt-get remove compiz-core [03:39] sudo apt-get autoremove [03:40] ok let me try [03:41] what's the autoremove for? [03:42] ok done, let me reboot [03:57] grr [03:57] Didn't work [03:57] I don't see the title bars yet [04:00] alt+f2 -> metacity [04:01] uhm [04:02] doesn't exist [04:02] alt-f2 xfwm4 [04:03] omg [04:03] worked!! [04:03] I was pulling out my hairç!! [04:03] thank you j1mc [04:03] w00t [04:03] hey it was my idea [04:04] :-( [04:04] * Stroganoff goes. [04:16] ok....can someone help me find the pci busid in the 0:1:0 format ? [04:16] pc-illiterate did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg [04:16] i forget what mine is and i looked everywhere on ubuntu forums...searched n searched [04:17] i need the pci busid [04:17] wont autodetect [04:17] why would you need that? [04:17] oic [04:17] lspci [04:17] i remembered thinking it was 0:15:0 but thats wrong [04:17] no thats garbage for this [04:17] the lspci command should get it for you [04:18] thats hex i need binary or its binary i need hex [04:19] at least this time i have 2 pc's hooked up to net so i can research while i try [04:19] but...this is my xubuntu box here and im in xp now [04:19] my video card shows up as 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1) [04:20] im plain ol pci [04:21] kernel tried helping me 3-4 weeks ago the first time around [04:21] tech 404 finally got it though [04:21] it should work in vesa mode even if it doesnt detect your card [04:22] er, if it doesnt know what kind of card you have. it has to detect the video card or it wont display anything :) [04:23] i dont get my desktop...black screen at login [04:23] i only get the splash for progress bar [04:24] did you have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log after logging in from the command prompt [04:24] that should tell you what went wrong [04:24] tried that looong time ago [04:24] x doesnt start [04:25] it should also tell you why x didnt start [04:25] nope [04:25] Now the title bar is ok, but it disappear when I reboot, why? [04:37] Now the title bar is ok, but it disappear when I reboot, why? [04:38] if you save your session before logging out or rebooting, it might be there when you come back [04:38] if you save your session before logging out or rebooting, it might be there when you come back [04:40] you can play around with the stuff in Applications, Settings, Desktop or thereabouts [04:45] gnight [04:48] i type what in terminal to uninstall my drivers and what to install new ? [04:48] i cant freakin find it.... [04:49] i have the nvidia glx new and i want nvidia glx [04:50] apt-get-uninstall nvidia-glx-new&&apt-get-install nvidia-glx ? [04:50] apt-get-uninstall nvidia-glx-new && apt-get-install nvidia-glx ? [04:56] apt-get-uninstall nvidia-glx-new && apt-get-install nvidia-glx ? [04:56] is this correct ? [05:08] áé [05:08] áé [05:09] is this correct ? [05:09] is this correct ? [05:09] is this correct ? [05:09] apt-get-uninstall nvidia-glx-new && apt-get-install nvidia-glx ? [05:09] oops sorry [05:10] didnt mean to rererepeat [05:10] apt-get uninstall nvidia-glx-new && apt-get install nvidia-glx ? [05:10] i mean is this right...man its a loong day === paul928 is now known as xfce_noobie [06:02] Is there a way to mount remote folders with ssh using thunar like in gnome using nautilus? === xfce_noobie is now known as paul928 [13:36] hi! i installed the xubuntu package from apt-get, but i think i have done something weird... because when i try to use the window manager settings, i get some error saying that i am running metacity [13:37] is there any way top get back to standard xubunt (like it was when i first installed) [13:40] how do i get the xfwm4 window manager instead of metacity in xubuntu? [13:42] mbirkis: xfwm4 is default in xubuntu [13:43] maxamillion: but i think i have done something to mess it up, when i try to run window manager settings it says that i am running metacity [13:43] interesting [13:43] mbirkis: you sure you are running xfce? [13:43] D: [13:44] maxamillion: yes [13:44] mbirkis: ok, check in applications->settings->autostart and see if there is a listing for metacity there [13:45] maxamillion: the autostart won't work :( [13:45] i click it but it doesn't open [13:45] [ 2194.136255] xfce4-autostart[8746]: segfault at 00000004 eip 0804beda esp bff7ef30 error 4 [13:46] hmmm... [13:46] mbirkis: you by any chance running 8.04 prerelease? [13:46] maxamillion: yes [13:46] ;) [13:46] bingo [13:46] lol, so it is broke then [13:47] mbirkis: you might want to check launchpad to see if the autostart bug has been reported, if not please submit one so that it can be fixed [13:47] mbirkis: yes, its probably just broke [13:47] maxamillion: ok, will do [13:47] maxamillion: thx alot for the help [13:47] mbirkis: anytime :) [13:50] maxamillion: btw, it is already filed at launchpad [13:51] mbirkis: ah wonderful, thank you .... i'll be sure to mention it to the devs to make sure its being addressed [14:57] hey all [14:57] anybody know why my xfmedia and mpg123 dont work while in torcs i have normal sound? [14:58] ? [14:59] What version of Xubuntu are you using, Banan_wii? [14:59] 6.06.1 LTS [14:59] mpg123 says it cant enable default sound device [15:00] Is libxine1-ffmpeg and liblame0 installed? [15:00] how to check it? [15:01] Open up synaptics package manager and search for them [15:01] ... where? [15:02] From the menu under System [15:05] there s no libxinel [15:06] and there isnt any in my repos ... [15:06] liblame is installed [15:08] where to get libxinel then? [15:11] ?? [15:13] plz its really weird .... [15:16] Banan_wii: it's libxine1 not libxinel [15:16] omg [15:17] use good a font [15:17] but its still isntt in my repos :( [15:20] !info libxine [15:20] Package libxine does not exist in gutsy [15:20] !info libxine1 [15:20] libxine1 (source: xine-lib): the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2431 kB, installed size 5528 kB [15:22] .... [15:22] ey [15:22] hey1 [15:22] hey! i mean :D it works :D [15:22] thx [15:23] no problem ll!l [15:28] :) [15:55] hey guys --- i just built a new PC and im trying to install xub 8 beta [15:55] mecca, Are you having trouble? [15:55] after the grub menu "install" the screen goes blank forever w/ a blinking cursor at the top [15:55] ya [15:55] so i downloaded xub gutsy ---- same thing [15:55] :( [15:57] any ideas? [15:57] cody-somerville: ? [15:57] mecca: try different boot options [15:57] !boot [15:57] Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto [15:58] TheSheep: i tried changing the resolution etc.. [15:58] try the noapic, nolapic, nopci, etc. [15:59] ok will do [15:59] thanks for the help :) [17:53] Hi all [17:54] how big is xubuntu default install? [17:57] A few gigs === gaurdro is now known as gaurdro|away === gaurdro|away is now known as gaurdro [19:00] is there a list of caveats for going from gutsy to hardy ? [19:01] I am not aware of any such document Ultraputz did you have a specific question? === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [19:02] zoredache_ - my specific question is "is this going to break my machine," which I figured might be answered by a document of caveats :-) === danielm_ is now known as danielm [19:03] at the moment the answer may be yes... it is still beta, if your need your system to be stable I wouldn't switch yet [19:04] you could look at the list of open bugs [19:04] how close are they to stable, do you know ? [19:04] don't really know [19:07] more mundane question -- is there anything other than awn that would function as a dock/launcher on a system that does not have a compositor enabled? [19:07] er, like a nextstep or macos dock? [19:08] have you tried just adding a panel, centering it, and not having it expand to the full screen? [19:09] ja. not quite happymaking, but i suppose i could futz with it some more. === gaurdro is now known as gaurdro|away [19:48] anyone familiar with Evolution ? === ZenDJiNN is now known as DJiNN [20:10] is there a terminal command to import pics from digital camera to computer? [20:10] gphoto2 [20:11] pleia2: is that a _terminal command_? [20:12] yes [20:12] oh, i thought it was a gui program. [20:12] thanks [20:13] pleia2: what command line do we use for gphoto2? [20:13] gphoto2 -P [20:14] easy. thanks [20:26] Good afternoon guys [20:27] Im thinking about xubuntu for my dad. He is officially tired of windows so I told him I would look for a nice easy to use linux distro [20:28] do you think Xubuntu will be good for him. He isn't the most computer savvy, but gets the basic idea [20:40] keonne, Have you considered Ubuntu? [21:06] hi there, i was speaking to someone here re: gphoto2. who was that? I was wondering what gphoto2 command to run to import all photos from digital cam AND delete all imported pics afterwards. [21:09] redwhitewaldo, check the manpage, there is a couple of --delete options [21:09] hi [21:10] danielm: yes, i see 2. [21:10] -d, --delete-file=RANGE Delete files given in range [21:10] -D, --delete-all-files Delete all files in folder [21:10] danielm: u use gphoto2, too? [21:11] i use gThumb to import photos [21:11] danielm: u prefer gui? [21:12] i prefer gui, too, but i want to save memomry [21:14] if i'm not wrong, the gThumb backed is gphoto2 [21:14] well.. i like gThumb, and isn't a very heavy software [21:14] that's all u use gthumb for: importing? [21:15] is there a smaller importing-pics gui program than gthumb? === RoBzZ_ is now known as RoBzZ [23:35] i got a serious problem [23:35] when one user is logged in (no virtual terminals) my comp shows 2 users on [23:36] magic_ninja: check /var/log/auth [23:37] TheSheep: dir doesn't exist [23:38] TheSheep: found the file,w hat am i looking for [23:39] who is logged in, and where the logged in from [23:39] it says rubix rubix from users [23:39] but i have a strange port listening [23:39] what tool are you using to get a list of active users from? [23:40] pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0) just a ton of that [23:40] just the users command [23:40] try using the command 'who' [23:41] that will also show you hwere the user is.. [23:41] I bet you are just seeing all the terminals you have open [23:42] zoredache: already checked that, with no vterminals and no other terminals open, i still get two users [23:42] pts/0 [23:42] so that would make sence, a login for X, and an entry for the terminal you ran users from [23:44] zoredache: no i have 2 dumby terminals open and no virtual terminals and its showing 4 users (ie should be three) [23:44] is there a command to log out all users and end all sessions? [23:45] just find the process id and use kill on it... [23:46] something like 'lsof -n | grep '/dev/pts' might tell you want you want [23:47] magic_ninja: kill -9 -1 will end all programs [23:47] and all users? [23:49] yup, it seems to have ended his login [23:50] showed 1 user (the vt i was logged in on), now showing 2 users again soon as i start x [23:50] so i wonder...why [23:50] why is it bugging you? [23:51] tcp 0 0 *:10245 *:* LISTEN [23:51] thats why [23:51] and that is something you to recogonize? [23:51] no [23:52] netstat -p will show you which process owns it [23:52] did you try a 'sudo netstat -ntlp' to see what process it is? [23:55] didn't show a process [23:56] thats why is bugging me [23:56] you ran your netstat with sudo? the pid information sometimes isn't visible to your account [23:57] yea, the command that gave me that is netstat -a | tcp [23:57] grr *grep [23:59] did you try 'sudo netstat -ntlp'? [23:59] iceccd [23:59] thats ice control center daemon i would guess