SpionWhy would the add/remove programs menu be grayed-out (disabled)?00:06
Y_Less`Hi, I have a very odd problem.  I'm running 8.04 beta on an HP Pavilion dv6000.  I've installed a few libraries to get things like wireless support installed and working, as well as quite a few bits for games but for some reason my hard disk seems to periodically just flood itself.  I'll get a message saying that the HD is less than 4% free, but I know there is a aroung 38gb free.  I tracked the data down to a folder in00:21
Y_Less`home->.strigi.  Deleting it doesn't seem to adversely affect the system but after a while the messages start coming back and just now my entire hard disk was full for no apparent reason.00:21
NickPrestaSupport for Hardy in #ubuntu+100:21
Y_Less`Does anyone know what's going on?00:21
Y_Less`ahh, cheers00:21
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ubuntuI need help with a new kubuntu 7.10 install.  It installed fine, but the update crashed and left the system unbootable, after grub selects the kernel there is a "File not found" error, I rebooted into the install disk and mounted and chrooted into the install, but I have no idea what to do next01:10
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Odd-rationalehi, boa__01:35
boa__what's up Odd¿01:36
Odd-rationaleboa__: not much...01:36
boa__me too man01:37
boa__yow Odd you speak french¿01:38
Odd-rationaleboa__: no I don't. but you can go to #ubuntu-fr01:39
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:39
boa__;P i know it's just a question01:39
Odd-rationaleboa__: oh, ok. I was just trying to help out. :|01:40
boa__thanks man :)01:40
slothhow can i save cmds for easy reference in konsole?01:41
Odd-rationalesloth: what do you mean?01:41
slothi type a cmd in konsole01:42
slothis there a way to save if for future use?01:42
slothsave it01:42
slothlike a bookmark01:42
boa__yow Odd if i have a problem with the synaptic update ,can i update my gusty to the 8?01:43
Odd-rationalesloth: well it is saved in you bash history. so you can use the up arrow key to scroll through recently used cmds01:43
Dr_willissloth,  make an script/bin directory and save your common commands to little scripts. if needed01:43
Dr_willisor setup alias's in your .bashrc or other files.01:43
Odd-rationaleboa__: synaptic? are you using kubuntu or ubuntu?01:43
slothum, over my head?01:43
Dr_willissloth,  then its time to read some bash begeinner guides01:43
Odd-rationalesloth: what command would you like to save?01:44
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal01:44
Dr_willisthers also 10000's of bash guides out on the web.01:44
Odd-rationalesloth: Also, i reccomend www.linuxcommand.org01:44
slothtrying to save this: find / -type f -size +20000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $8 ": " $5 }'01:44
Odd-rationalesloth: ok. then open your ~/.bashrc file and we'll just put an alias for that.01:45
Dr_willisecho ' find / -type f -size +20000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $8 ": " $5 }' ' > bigcommand     :) then chmod +x bigcommand01:45
Dr_willisis another way01:45
sloth.bashrc file?01:46
Odd-rationaleboa__: shouldn't you be using adept instead of synaptic?01:46
Odd-rationalesloth: do "kate ~/.bashrc"01:46
Dr_willissloth,  the .bashrc file gets ran at the start of every new shell. it has settings and aliass in it. YOu can set an alias for that command in there easially.01:46
Dr_willisOR you could make a little shellscript for that command. (which is what my example did)01:46
Dr_willisyes a shell script.. Bash Basics..01:47
slothmaybe i should read on it first01:47
sloththen bother you two01:47
Dr_willismy command made a file called 'bigcommand' - You can then chmod +x bigcommand, then run that command with ./bigcommand01:48
Odd-rationaleDr_willis: would you have to prepend that with #!/bin/bash ? or no?01:48
Dr_willissloth,  yep. this is all rather  straight forward01:48
Dr_willisOdd-rationale,  not really :) but its better practice01:48
Dr_willissloth,  if you are going to have a lot of custom commands and scripts make a 'bin' dir and keep them in there01:48
Dr_willisThats common practice to keep them there.01:48
Odd-rationaleI think an alias would be a better idea...01:48
Odd-rationalefor one 1 loc01:49
Dr_willisI perfer the bin/scripe method. because its easier for me to backup/move my bin dir to other machines/disrtos/users  :)01:49
slothon a seperate topic...why is that when i do a virus scan, a lot of the files show up as access denied (using klamav)01:49
Dr_willisplus i have 200+ scripts in bin anyway01:49
boa__by the way odd how can i solve a problem with the repositories ,i have to save my source.list or add anothers repositories01:49
Dr_willissloth,  because as a USER you cant acc4ess them.,01:49
Odd-rationaleI create a .bash_aliases file which I can back up :)01:50
Dr_willissloth,  klamv is scanning for WINDOWS viruses anyway :) most of the time.01:50
slothand what does empty files mean?01:50
Dr_willisempty files?01:50
Odd-rationaleboa__: what are you trying to do?01:50
slothklamav says empty file01:50
Dr_willisi guess it depends on what ifle it says is empty. :)01:51
Dr_willisI rarely use klamv, no real need for it.01:51
slotha LOT were empty01:51
Dr_willisfiles with zero size i guess..01:51
slothfor example01:51
Dr_willisNo idea why that would be a security issue.01:51
slothwhat about zip.exceededfileslimit01:52
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2101:52
Odd-rationaleboa__: are you trying to add a repo?01:52
boa__update but i can't because it can't access to some repositories01:52
Dr_willis!info    clamav-docs01:52
ubotuclamav-docs (source: clamav): documentation package for clamav, an anti-virus utility for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.91.2-3ubuntu2.3 (gutsy), package size 992 kB, installed size 1420 kB01:52
Odd-rationaleboa__: you're trying to do "sudo apt-get update" but some repos are timing out?01:53
Dr_willisinstall/read the docs for clamav i guess. :)01:53
Dr_willisunless you want to scan your windows system. You proberly dont need to worry about klamav01:53
Odd-rationaleboa__: i guess the only thing you can do is try changing you mirror.01:53
slothwindows system?01:54
slothjust using gutsy here01:54
Fritzelok this is probably something simple but does anyone know why I would get this message when attempting to compile a plasmoid in KDE4? http://pastebin.com/d1595a17b (question already posed in #ubuntu+1)01:55
Odd-rationaleboa__: open adept and go to adept --> manage repositories. then select a different mirror from the drop down menu01:56
boa__well i can't install adept odd because it can access to his url01:58
boa__sorry odd i want to say  the manager propreties option is unvailable i cant access02:03
szakulecI just tried to load the new york mets webpage, and  after forcing it to stop re-loading, it finally crashed when I went to the Fans tab02:04
jast-mxmwould anyone like to help me resolve an issue w/ ssh tunneling?02:05
Stofferdoes kubutnu.org have an rss feed for their announcements?  I'm tired of looking every day to see if the new version came out02:09
szakulecthey do02:09
Stoffernevermind, i'm an idiot and just found the link02:09
kissofavampireanybody out there who can tell me where i can turn off these crappy tooltips?02:16
kissofavampiresry 4 my bad english ;)02:16
Dr_williswhat tooltips02:17
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geniiDr_willis: I imagine he means the context popups when you hover on something02:17
kissofavampirewhen my mouse cursor touches the "k" menu there is an animated tooltip02:17
Dr_willisthats disabeable somewhere. :) i forget where..02:18
kissofavampireDr_willis: same here but i installed kubuntu new a few minutes ago...02:18
geniikissofavampire: System Settings...Appearance...Style... uncheck "Enable Tooltips"02:20
kissofavampirethis doesn't work 4 me...do i have to restart x system?02:21
geniikissofavampire: After changing it there make sure to hit Apply button in bottom right corner02:22
kissofavampirei've clicked the aply button...02:22
kissofavampirei also thought it was there but these tooltips are still present02:23
geniikissofavampire:  Should take effect immediately. If not then perhaps a restart of X is needed. I leave them on normally so do not know offhand02:23
kissofavampirethx a lot i'll try to restart02:24
hakxiscomo entro al kubundo en español?02:32
NickPresta!es | hakxis02:32
ubotuhakxis: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.02:32
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EnsGabeHas anyone had trouble using Gnash with konqueror?02:33
Daisuke-Laptopomit "with konqueror" and the answer is "yes, yes we have"02:34
geniiDaisuke-Laptop: Heh smartass02:34
Daisuke-Laptopgnash isn't going to cut it if you need to do anything that requires a version of flash released even remotely recently02:35
Daisuke-Laptopgenii: thank you :)02:35
EnsGabeThanks, Daisuke-Laptop, but 90% of what I use it for is covered by the mozilla-plugin-gnash package.  So keep it to yourself02:36
EnsGabeSpecifically, the plugin doesn't even show up in the plugin dialog box after I scan for new plugins02:36
Daisuke-LaptopEnsGabe: a bit bitter, are we?02:37
EnsGabeDaisuke-Laptop: best example of projection all day02:38
Daisuke-Laptopand mozilla-plugin-gnash probably won't help with konqueror02:38
EnsGaberather, the konq-plug-gnash plugin doesn't show up-- the mozilla-plugin-gnash plugin shows up and every page with flash elements SIGSEGV's02:38
Daisuke-Laptopi'm not bitter, i'm disappointed02:38
EnsGabeDaisuke-Laptop: fair enough.  It's one of the few things these days that's labelled and shows it02:39
Daisuke-Laptopi haven't run into the problem, and i'm seeing nothing anywhere i'm looking, except for some relaly old bugs that were fixed before feisty came out...02:43
EnsGabe'/usr/lib/kde3/libklashpart.so' is the actually plugin, right?02:44
Xcercaany body know of a good thread or tutorial on installing 8.04 on a usb stick ? i'm trying to just put the live cd/iso on the usb stick so that i can boot off that02:44
crazy_busI would like to download some mit world videos, but the only link I can find is to a itunes u mit world site. Is there any way to access files contained in itunes u without installing itunes under wine?02:47
geniiXcerca:  The pendrivelinux website has much info on the subject02:47
geniiXcerca:  The method used for 7.10 can easily be adapted02:48
Xcercathanks, i'll check it out02:48
_ZeuZ_how can I install a Winmodem into Kubuntu?02:54
_ZeuZ_More specifically02:54
_ZeuZ_HDAUDIO Soft Data Fax Modem with SmartCP >>> That02:55
_ZeuZ_Besides buying the HSF driver, of course02:55
genii_ZeuZ_: What does lspci spefically report for the modem device?02:55
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto02:55
geniiJucato: I've compiled the Conexant HSF drivers by hand, I may be able to assist (possibly)02:56
_ZeuZ_genii: dunno, I have to use Windows to browse...02:57
snake_дайте irc русской тех.поддержки02:57
Jucatogenii: may you be possible to give me some coffee? :P02:57
_ZeuZ_hsf by hand? how did you manage to get the source if it's paid?02:57
Jucato!ru | snake_02:57
ubotusnake_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke02:57
genii_ZeuZ_: Before the linmodem people got ahold of it, the earlier source code was available.02:57
_ZeuZ_genii, is it still avaible somewhere?02:58
genii_ZeuZ_: First we need to discover if it is a modem which has vendor codes that would make trying to compile the full-speed driver worthwhile02:58
* genii makes Jucato an extra-large Kubuntu mug of coffee02:59
_ZeuZ_It does for me...02:59
_ZeuZ_but, let me check... by the way, I need a link to a hardy package for scanmodem so I can dowload it from Windows, then mount the partition, copy the package and dependencies, and dpkg -i them03:00
genii_ZeuZ_: Even when manually compiled, it doesn't work for all of them, especially a lot of the newer ones. And it was originaly specifically for the Conexant line03:00
_ZeuZ_(hardy 64bits)03:00
_ZeuZ_!repositories hardy03:00
genii_ZeuZ_: I'll see if I can rediscover the web sites i worked from originally.03:01
_ZeuZ_Cool, either way, first I would need a link to a hardy version of scanmodem for a 64bits plataform, any idea where can I get that? packages.kubuntu.org is something I guess doesnt exist...03:02
genii_ZeuZ_: Hangon, is this a Dell box? Because they actually supply a deb file03:02
genii(you will be in luck if it is)03:03
_ZeuZ_Just found that also, it's HP here, but perhaps it could work...03:03
genii_ZeuZ_: The HSF dell driver is supposed to be for 7.04 but i know for fact it works on 7.10, I've done it. 8.04 tho dunno03:04
_ZeuZ_Installing wont get me to a Kernel Panic so I dunno if it will be that disastrous03:05
geniiBut also is 32 bit which cold be an issue03:05
_ZeuZ_Hmmm... I'll get it pirated... (HSF full driver)03:06
_ZeuZ_but first, I need to get scanmodem (taking in count I'm in Windows Right now, and I've got to download it here and then copy it and dpkg -i it)03:07
_ZeuZ_any idea the URL of the repos_03:07
genii_ZeuZ_: Well, you could always just pay the $20 to linuxant and be done with it also03:07
_ZeuZ_20 dollars equals 90 pesos with what you eat 2 weaks...03:07
genii_ZeuZ_: scanmodem is not a program which is in the repos. I't specific to the linmodem website03:08
ElazarAnyone have any experience getting vga-out working on integrated Intel 965 chipset VGA controllers?03:09
ElazarAll solutions I've tried thus far just end up with X failing to boot because it stops being able to adjust the resolution on the primary display.03:10
Elazarxrandr can see a connection on the vga-out port when I plug an adapter in, so I know that's working. Just not sure how to proceed trying to get a clone display running.03:11
genii_ZeuZ_: At any rate,
_ZeuZ_downloading it allready03:13
_ZeuZ_aint if easier to do lspci -vvv | grep Modem ?03:13
_ZeuZ_!hardy traceroute03:14
genii_ZeuZ_: The scanmodem tool will give *detailed* information specifically about the winmodem03:14
_ZeuZ_once again, wouldn't lspci do that? or does this also test the commands sent to the modem?03:15
genii_ZeuZ_: When looking for a package for a specific dist, the syntax of the bot factoid is: !info packagename distname        eg: !info traceroute hardy               although not sure if it's databbase yet incldes 8.0403:15
genii_ZeuZ_: It intensively interrogates all the commands the thing accepts plus many other things03:16
Daisuke_Idoi would just like to say: dell's site has the full driver you need.03:16
_ZeuZ_!info traceroute hardy03:16
ubotutraceroute (source: traceroute): Traces the route taken by packets over an IPv4/IPv6 network. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.9-3 (hardy), package size 46 kB, installed size 172 kB03:16
_ZeuZ_Daisuke-IDO: For i38603:17
geniiDaisuke_Ido: It's 32 bit only there.03:17
_ZeuZ_not for 64bits kernel03:17
Daisuke_Idoooh, x64?03:17
Daisuke_Idoi have to say, i am extremely upset that anyone would charge money for a driver03:17
geniiHopefully they'll get enough pressure to release a 64 bit soon03:17
Daisuke_Idoyou already paid for the hardware in some way or another...03:17
_ZeuZ_genii: I would like the bot to handle me a URL to download the package, as I cant use the modem yet in linux03:17
ElazarNo one? :(03:18
geniiElazar: Perhaps ask in #xorg03:18
genii_ZeuZ_: It will only tell you which repository. Use some web browser for instance to go to somewhere like http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/traceroute/       and select the deb for your system03:22
tomahasamootwhen switching VTs, sometimes my loggin crashes and dumps back into kdm03:23
tomahasamootthere is a delay of a couple seconds after switching, then it spontainously switches back... and the loggin is gone03:23
tomahasamootthis is between VT7 and VT9, using the ctrl+alt+fx hotkey03:23
tomahasamootI'm on kubuntu 8.04 amd64 with an nVidia 8600 (using the "real" driver)  I had the same problem on 7.10, but less less frequently03:23
yao_ziyua1anyone used both kubuntu and fedora/kde?03:25
yao_ziyua1please talk about the difference03:25
yao_ziyua1fedora uses bleeding edge packages03:25
linuxloverhi room.........i am anindya from india.... problem : simple LAN with my 2 desktop pcs.... please help03:26
linuxloveri have two machines one with two network interfaces and the another with a sole network interface. i am trying to connect these two machines with a simple LAN for sharing internet. the machine which has two network interfaces, presently installed with kubuntu and directly connected with internet. These interfaces are eth0 and eth1. eth1 is connected with the internet. As soon as I am changing the IP address of this eth0, it is always changing to03:34
linuxlover169.254.3.224 as soon as I restart the machine. Why this is going so? How do I configure my interface cards?03:34
geniilinuxlover: Some questions to clarify: Is there a router or such that assigns IP to the computers there? What OS are both boxes running. If no switch/hub/router do you have a crossover cable?03:34
genii169.254.X.X  is an ip which the computer auto assigns itself when no number is being given to it from outside03:35
linuxlovergenil: I am connected with a crossover cable. The machine which is connected with two network cards in installed with Kubuntu and the other machine is installed with Windows03:39
geniilinuxlover: There is a simple howto here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html   but the user there is running commands like apt-get as root. Instead put sudo before what they have there.03:39
geniilinuxlover: Also where they have echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward     put instead echo 1 > sudo tee -a /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward03:41
geniiAnd for gedit <whatever>      do alt-f2 then: kdesu kate <whatever>03:42
linuxloveri am listening to you genil03:42
geniilinuxlover: The name is genii and not genil :) You will be fine if you do the commands listed there on the linux machine with two interfaces. The client machine operating system does not matter in this case. But of course alter the instructions there as I have just outlined above.03:44
yao_ziyuanby which way can i enjoy current releases of packages (e.g. pidgin 2.4.1 instead of 2.2.1) in ubuntu?03:45
linuxloverI am very sorry genii....... it is my eyes which made the problem.... anyway it is my mistake, i am really sorry, please don't mind friend03:47
Daisuke_Idooi.  love how he sticks around for an answer.03:48
geniilinuxlover: No worries :)03:48
geniiDaisuke_Ido: Especially as I actually went to trouble of answering him in #ubuntu03:49
Daisuke_Idothat guy...  *makes a strangling motion*03:49
geniieg: yao_ziyuan: To make ubuntu use the lates deb versions available in it's repositories, create a file called apt.conf in directory /etc/apt and have it contain the line of:   APT::Default-Release "experimental";                     For more recent versions see if getdeb website contains them, or else compile from source.03:49
linuxloverThank you genii03:49
Boohbahstrangling users is not good policy03:49
geniiBoohbah: Well, it would be therapeutic for us however ;)03:51
NickPrestaIt would also solve the problem of helping users :)03:51
neville_This is going to sound a bit strange, but how can I mount a PSX disk?03:51
jtismeneville_, what is a PSX disk03:52
NickPrestajtisme, Play Station 1, maybe?03:52
NickPrestaneville_, what happens when you put the disc in?03:53
neville_The drive churns, then stops, and KDE does nothing03:53
neville_sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom tells me to specify a filesystem, however03:53
neville_And I've got no idea what it could be03:55
dthackerHi.  I'm trying to start a game that wants a SDL library.  I seem to remember a separate LIBPATH variable that needs to be set. Is that right03:55
* genii reads http://www.megagames.com/psx/psx_cd_info.shtml to try and understand how to overcome the purposeful bad-block design on PSX cdroms which are actually just standard iso9660 filesystems03:56
neville_It's a queer problem genii, the disks would work perfectly in Windows when I used to have it :/03:57
jtismeneville_,  specify filesystem  or  filesystem type03:57
geniineville_: Try -t iso9660 for filesystem03:57
geniineville_: eg: sudo mount  -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom                 or so03:58
genii(assuming /media/cdrom dir exists)03:59
neville_Worked like a charm =]03:59
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geniineville_: Good :) Be warned of the purposeful bad-block issue if trying to make a copy of it or an iso file.04:00
* dthacker has no LIBPATH set at present04:00
geniidthacker: Living dangerously?04:00
neville_Sure, thanks for the warning =]04:00
dthackergenii: how so?04:00
geniidthacker: Just trying to be funny, don't mind me04:01
dthackerI'm just trying to remember the name of this shell variable.   All I can think of is PERL5LIB, because I work with perl all day long.  but there's a another one you can set  that's something like LD5LIBPATH or similar04:02
neville_Made that command into its own little executable, just to avoid all that typing in future :P04:03
jtismedthacker, LD_LIBRARY_PATH04:03
dthackeryes that's it04:04
genii!helpersnack | jtisme04:04
ubotujtisme: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!04:04
geniineville_: You coud just make a fstab entry with types of udf and iso966004:05
neville_Nah, I'm not game enough to muck with fstab just yet, to be honest04:05
geniineville_: A line as: /dev/cdrom       /media/cdrom   udf,iso9660 user,auto,exec 0       0                            Would suffice04:06
neville_Oh man, looks like I owe you one, eh genii? =]04:08
neville_Next time you need elevator repairmen, I'll do it minus the lecturing :P04:09
geniineville_: Thanks :)04:09
geniineville_: To add the line there, simplest is: alt-f2 then: kdesu kate /etc/fstab             and then add it, save04:10
neville_Yeah, beat you to that bit by a few minutes :P04:11
neville_It's the actual mucking around in the guts of this stuff I'm not to keen on just yet04:11
geniiHmm. Quiet.04:40
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nitin_can kppp used to dial from 56k modem04:41
breezygay firefox taking your windows username and using it in chatzilla O.o04:41
geniimaduser: So much for the quiet ;)04:42
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geniinitin_: Yes04:42
converge_Starting a Kubuntu 8.04 installation on my laptop.. after the kubuntu progress bar goes back and forth, I arrive to a blue screen with a mouse where I would usually see an option to select my language..04:44
converge_but i see no dialog boxes, just a movable mouse.04:44
converge_any ideas?04:44
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu04:46
converge_yeah i realize this04:47
converge_thanks anyway04:47
genii!es | kaman04:53
ubotukaman: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.04:53
maduserHola que es tu problema?04:54
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richardhola hola05:00
* genii resorts to babblefish05:00
maduserscrew dat I know esapanol05:00
richardestoy probando este chat05:00
geniikaman: Preguntas aquí se hacen normalmente en la lengua inglesa. Sin embargo puesto que no está ocupado aquí quizás el maduser puede asistir a su lengua materna si no hay ayuda en # ubuntu-ubuntu-es o # kubuntu-kubuntu-es.05:00
madusergenii you know the spanish channel is no help05:01
geniiI think I'm outnumbered ;)05:01
maduserthere are like 10 people there05:01
geniimaduser: Are you there?05:01
maduserhola richard que es tu problema?05:01
richardestoy tratando de configurar esta maquina no puedo ver ni los videos05:03
SitUbuntuSit!spanish | richard05:04
uboturichard: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.05:04
Mr_Sonoma!fix apt05:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fix apt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:08
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »05:08
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rootlinuxusrAnybody have problems with laptop's and sound cards holding onto the sound source after the program is closed?05:20
BlackAuraokay.....so I've got Gutsy AMD64 working great on my system.....except unfortunately my sound card isn't working properly.  It's an Audigy, and is detected, and shows up find in aplay -l.  I've already checked the Switches tab in KMix and the Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack setting is off05:58
BlackAurawhich is apparently the common problem....at least from what I've been reading05:59
rootlinuxusrwhat system do you have, or is it a custom?05:59
rootlinuxusrhad the same issue with my dell inspiron05:59
BlackAuracustom build.....ASUS-A8N Sli mobo, onboard sound turned off.05:59
rootlinuxusrnice setup. umm06:00
rootlinuxusrwhat's the sound card make/model?06:00
BlackAuracat /proc/asound/cards is showing two though oddly enough....the Audigy as card 0, and a UART MPU-401 as the second card, which I'm guessing is a MIDI controller?06:00
BlackAuraAudigy 1 [SB0090] (rev.3, serial:0x531102)06:00
rootlinuxusror perhaps the onboard06:01
BlackAuraIt's an OEM Creative Soundblaster Audigy....which I know I've gotten working in the past in LFS and Gentoo06:01
BlackAuraI belive I just used the emu10k ALSA drivers06:01
BlackAuraif I open up VLC, and view the preferences, and check the output devices....the Audigy is listed after I refresh the devices06:02
BlackAuraoh, apparenlty the onboard sound is another Realtek AC '97 chipset, the usual onboard one from what I've seen :s06:04
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BlackAuraOkay.....so the audigy is detected, but still can't get sound out of it :s06:26
BlackAura:s     ignore that last remark, seems to be okay now06:27
calcmandanFresh install of 7.10 gutsy yesterday.  Sound was working fine.  I just tried to play some music and it 'plays' but nothing is coming out of the speakers.  Yes, they're plugged into the computer.  I see no indication that there are sound issues.06:32
neville_Is there any other program open that could be tying up the sound?06:33
calcmandani can't think of anything.06:33
SlicerDicerkill arts06:33
calcmandanSlicerDicer: killed arts, still nothing.06:34
SlicerDicerusb sound device defaulting to somehow?06:35
SlicerDicerprogram like skype eating sound device?06:35
SlicerDicerworst case restart X06:35
calcmandanSlicerDicer: i don't have skype installed... yet.06:35
SlicerDicershould clear it up06:35
calcmandanokay, once i'mdone copying this dvd, i'll restart x.06:35
calcmandani'll be back if it doesn't work.06:35
calcmandanwould it help if i pastebin'd my system log?06:37
SlicerDicerdid it not work?06:37
SlicerDicerwhat kinda sound device you got?06:37
calcmandanstill burning the dvd.06:37
calcmandani'm going to let it finish.06:38
calcmandandual layers are still expensive. :)06:38
calcmandani have an onboard via chipset.06:38
calcmandanplugged my speakers into that06:38
SlicerDicerahh ok06:38
calcmandanhmm.  i was playing metal blob solid earlier.  there was sound then,06:40
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SlicerDicernice .06:41
jerwarethis linux shit just fucked me outa my time.08:07
jussi01!ohmy | jerware08:07
ubotujerware: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.08:07
jerwarei spent all this time organizing my firefox book marks.  then it rolls back prior to my changes.  why.08:07
Daisuke_Ido1) that's firefox's problem, not linux's - blame where blame's due08:07
Daisuke_Ido2) i had that happen to me as well, make sure it's not set to automatically alphabetize bookmarks, it's a pain in the butt.08:08
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jerwareview > sort by name08:10
jerwareis the default08:10
jerwareso i click unsorted08:10
jerwarethen go back.  and sort by name is still selected.08:10
jerwarethats bull shit08:10
jussi01jerware: please dont swear in here08:10
stdin!language > jerware (you have been asked twice)08:10
jerwarethen go back.  and sort by name is still selected.08:13
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Xcercacan anybody recomend another audio player for my besides amaroke ?08:45
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs08:47
jussi01Xcerca: hows that?08:47
Xcercathx  i', gunna go with juk and mplayer...08:48
jussi01Xcerca: there is also kmplayer08:48
Xcercai'll check out kmplayer first then08:50
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jussio1!cn | yandy09:52
ubotuyandy: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk09:52
juniorany1 alive ?10:26
jpatrick!hi | junior10:27
ubotujunior: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:27
hangmansjokehello everyone10:34
hangmansjokei am new to kubuntu10:35
yandyjoin #kde-devel10:38
jussi01yandy: add a /10:42
HeLpEei installed windows in f: and then kubuntu in c: . now i cant see windows in grub menu when i boot. when i boot it dont shows me display for first 1 min. (just shows sync, out of range)  then show normal linux booting. whats wrong?10:57
HeLpEei installed windows in f: and then kubuntu in c: . now i cant see windows in grub menu when i boot. when i boot it dont shows me display for first 1 min. (just shows sync, out of range)  then show normal linux booting. whats wrong?11:08
HeLpEecan linux be installed on a logical partitions whos primary partition is a fat partition?11:17
SeicherlBoBhi! I'm running 7.10 on a laptop and just found out, that i have not installed KLaptop but powermanager instead. do i still need KLaptop if power manager is running?11:19
nitinbut for Linux you have to format using ext3 in the logical partition that you want to install11:19
ActionParsniphey all11:22
litelHello, I just try KDE and the resolution is too hight. I don't know where is the monitor manager an someone help me ? (sorry for mi english I'm not english or american)11:28
ActionParsniplitel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:29
litelActionParsnip: Thx you :)11:32
yandyExcuse me,which shell is default in Kubuntu?11:32
ActionParsnipyandy:   konsole11:34
ActionParsnipyandy: i'd suggest yakuake though :)11:34
ActionParsnipyandy: you set a shortcut key and it drops down from the top like the console in quake / counterstrike. press again and it vanishes11:35
ActionParsnipimho yakuake should be standard instead of konsole11:38
yandyThank you11:39
ActionParsnipyandy: np11:39
ActionParsniphi user__11:39
ActionParsnip!hi | user11:39
ubotuuser: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!11:39
user__i am russian student11:41
ActionParsnipi am a uk server engineer11:41
user__i don't know english11:41
Jucato!ru | user__11:41
ubotuuser__: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke11:41
yandySorry,I'm not English or American.What's the meaning of np?11:45
Jucatonp = No Problem11:45
Kaevikno problem11:45
clau30no problem = No Problem = np11:46
yandyTY=Thank You11:47
Kaevikimho = In my Honest Opinion (usually not so honest) xd11:48
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:49
clau30Kaevik: imho = in my humble opinion ;)11:49
* clau30 - no more offtopic :)11:49
JucatoOT = offtopic :D11:50
ActionParsnipidgas ;)11:51
yandyI think so11:51
yandyHao Ren in Chinese11:52
user__ubuntu rullezz12:21
clau30asl pls12:55
lorinvery well XD12:55
Dr_willisasl is NOT going to happen.12:56
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a_c_mif i install the most recent release candidate, will it auto update to the release version on release day?12:58
Dr_willisa_c_m,  yes13:00
Dr_willisYou might want to wait a few days after release to update. :)13:00
Dr_willisI alwyas update/upgrade the day befr release.. then wait a week to update/upgrade again13:01
a_c_mDr_willis: great thanks... but there is no drawbacks to doing thing ?13:01
Dr_willisa_c_m,  none that i know of.13:01
a_c_mDr_willis: perfect (getting a shiny new quad core today/tomorrow)13:01
a_c_mDr_willis: one more question, i'm very interested in 4.0 but do use this machine for work, am i best going with the non remix version then installing 4 as an option or the other way around, going with the remix then installing 3 as a backup?13:05
a_c_mDr_willis: sorry taking about the KDE version13:06
Dr_willisYou can easially install both.13:07
Dr_willisbut KDE4 is still very much a work in progress13:07
Dr_willisI installed the kde4 kubuntu hardy release on this machine, then installed the normal kde13:07
a_c_mDr_willis: ok cool, thanks13:07
a_c_mDr_willis: ahh ok one last last question ;)  64bit, last time i tried using the 64bit version of ubuntu was 6.10 but was througly put off by not being able to get things like flash to work... is this any better in 8.4 ?13:10
Dr_willisI never use 64bit  - since i would gain nothing by doing so. even on my 64bit cpus.13:11
a_c_mDr_willis: oh? why would you gain nothing? isnt it a bit faster / allows you to access more ram (over 3gb isnt it?)13:12
Dr_willisits over 4gb of ram.. and the speed gain is most likely not going to be noticeable13:13
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a_c_mhumm ok13:15
a_c_mi might stick with non 64 bit then... for the easy life ;)13:15
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Kaevik64bit under Vista is a challenge to get stuff working in 64bit (64bit programs, codecs, ecta)13:18
Kaevikprobly the same in kubuntu13:18
KaevikI'd imagine more so13:18
Dr_willisVista is a challenge to get stuff working13:18
KaevikI didn't have a problem13:19
Kaevikdrivers, stuff I used on XP all works, just trying to run the 64bit versions.13:19
Kaevik(not drivers) but like say 64bit MPC13:20
Dr_willisI lost about 1/2 the functions of my scanner-printer combo - under vista.. yea for vista....13:20
a_c_myeah i've not used vista at all yet (kubuntu/xp on the laptop)13:20
Kaevikthats pretty bad13:20
a_c_mthe new box comes with it pre-installed :S13:21
Kaevikhey! lets buy an OS and get driver issues like having a free OSS OS xD13:21
Kaevikthe boxes I get belong to the specific hardware I buy (build all my PCs for 7+ years)13:24
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cannonhi, is there an apps to fix my desktop resolution13:59
cannonthe top and bottom are outside the monitor13:59
cannonyou still there? :(14:00
jussi01!fixres | cannon14:12
ubotucannon: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto14:12
mahesh  14:26
noaXesshow can i add a print action into konquerrors right click feature?14:27
KennethPis there any way to keep a specific package to NOT be upgraded using apt-get or adept. (I had to downgrade it to keep it working)14:38
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catweazleKennethP: echo k3b hold|dpkg --set-selections14:41
catweazlefor example14:41
KennethPcatweazle: Thanks a lot - that looks exactly like what I'm looking for... I'll test that14:42
maheshis there any one working in eclipse pdt?14:45
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Stomperhi all14:59
StomperI ve some problems with hibernating and screenlocking...15:00
Stomperwant to build a mediacenter and bring it to hibernate-mode15:00
Stomperafter resuming kubuntu the screen is locket - how do I disable that feature?15:00
StomperI checket the option in /etc/default/acpi-support for sreen-locking... but commending it out doesn help15:02
Stomperno one here?15:02
dcorbin_workI click on "Version Upgrade" in Adept Updater.  It /appears/ to be hung on "Downloading and verifying the updgrade tool..."  ideas?15:03
BluesKajhowdy all15:05
Stomperseems to be a sleeping room here... no answers ^^15:05
cannonhey all ... can somebody help me fix my screen resolution pls ... like is there an app?15:07
cannonfor some strange reason it's "stretched" so I can't see the top and bottom15:08
BluesKajcannon, did you just install kubuntu ?15:10
cannonwell a few days ago ... dropped back into windows to finish some stuff off15:11
cannonit worked fine the first time15:11
BluesKajcannon,  k-menu/system settings/monitor&display/hardware-tab/admin mode/graphics card/configure. Find your card in the list and "apply" , same goes for the monitor, if possible.Click "test". If all is well, logout and back in again.15:12
cannonk, thanks for your help m8 :D15:13
BluesKajthank me after it works , cannon :)15:13
BluesKajStomper, what's your question ?15:17
Stomperah.. how can i get rid of the password-promt after resum from hibernate?15:18
cannonback, now my res is really low though :P15:18
StomperI tried everything, but nothing worked. I also tried to find the script wich lockes the screen, but didnt find it15:19
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BluesKajStomper, sorry I don't know ...I don't hibernate my pc15:21
BluesKajwhat's your res set at , cannon?15:21
cannoni just found out why15:22
Stomperok - thx so far15:22
cannonit put it to generic instead of widescreen15:22
cannonrestarting x again15:22
BluesKajcannon, did you check system settings/monitor&display/admin mode/screen size slider , to resize your res?15:29
geniiStomper: I'm seeing many complaints about the screen lock kicking in after suspend or hibernate (in google results) but none have provided yet any solution.15:30
cannonres is fixed now :)15:32
cannonhad to pretend it was a Dell as there is no driver for Asus15:32
cannonlucky guess :P15:32
BluesKajlets hope it sticks , cannon15:32
cannonlol, yup15:32
cannonwanna help me with something else? :P15:32
cannoni need to open ports so a friend can ssh to me ... but no matter what I try they just won't open15:33
cannoncan't get peeps to vnc to me either15:33
cannon!open ports15:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about open ports - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about openports - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:36
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).15:36
cannonlol, i tried updating them and the changes never seamed to take place15:37
BluesKaj!ssh | cannon15:37
ubotucannon: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/15:37
jussio1cannon: I assume you have ssh installed on the macine...15:38
cannonlol, yup :P15:38
cannoni'll run through that guide again15:39
cannonboth of em15:39
jussio1cannon: the server?15:39
cannoni think so15:39
cannoni have installed: kdessh; openssh-client; openssh-server15:40
BluesKajwhat about just ssh ?15:40
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boritekhello, is it possible to download amarok2 in binary from anywhere?15:42
cannonLOL, good idea :P15:43
* cannon is a linux nubcake15:43
BluesKajcannon, secure shell client and server (metapackage),15:44
BluesKajThis metapackage is a convenient way to install both the OpenSSH client and the OpenSSH server. It provides nothing in and of itself, so you may remove it if nothing depends on it.15:44
cannonis there a way to watch what peeps are doing with ssh?15:45
cannonor monitor15:45
cannonlike logs or something?15:45
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StomperHi, Im back... I have another little question15:48
Stomperhow can I hibernate the system with the console?15:48
cannonthere is a new amarok? :O15:50
PiciIts in development.15:50
cannoni need help with storage media15:50
cannonwhen i load up dolphin and goto Storage Media it stays on "Loading directory..."15:51
BluesKajcannon, what are you trying to access in Storage Media ?15:55
cannonmy sata hdd15:55
cannonits in fat32 so it can be read by windows and linux15:55
cannonor so i'm told15:56
BluesKajoh, I was advised to use ntfs-3g15:58
BluesKajbut I'm running a daul boot setup15:58
BluesKajerr dual15:59
cannonwell at the mo i have linux and windows installed separately ... but I am planning on loading windows through a vm15:59
cannonthere are some things I just cannon rely on linux for yet15:59
cannon*cannot lol15:59
yao_ziyuanhow do i check how much video memory of mine kubuntu can recognize?16:00
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter16:00
JuJuBeeanybody know where (on linux) the themes for oo are stored?  And can I copy them over to windows to use with oo?16:01
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE16:02
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions16:02
BluesKaj!kSysGuard | yao_ziyuan16:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ksysguard - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:05
yao_ziyuanBluesKaj: thanks16:05
BluesKajyao_ziyuan, anyway try it :)16:05
yao_ziyuani don't see video memory size in ksysguard16:07
yao_ziyuanMonitor & Display says my graphics card is "ati" and video memory size is a grayed out "256K"16:09
BluesKajyao_ziyuan, lspci | grep VGA16:11
yao_ziyuanBluesKaj: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01)16:12
yao_ziyuanthe actual vram is 64mb16:12
yao_ziyuanbut i think kubuntu underestimates it, so i want to check how kubuntu thinks16:13
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BluesKajyao_ziyuan, could be the driver ...looks like you're using a generic driver ...have you tried the restricted driver in system settings /advanced  ?16:16
yao_ziyuani now found a command from google:16:16
yao_ziyuanlspci -v16:16
yao_ziyuanand i see 64M now16:16
yao_ziyuan"Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]"16:17
yao_ziyuanBluesKaj: currently i have no restricted drivers installed16:17
jussio1BluesKaj: that card doesnt need th restricted driver16:17
yao_ziyuanlspci -v says about my video card:16:18
yao_ziyuan01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA])16:18
yao_ziyuan        Subsystem: Unknown device 1642:331816:18
yao_ziyuan        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 1616:18
yao_ziyuan        Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]16:18
yao_ziyuan        I/O ports at 9000 [size=256]16:18
yao_ziyuan        Memory at f9000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]16:18
* jussio1 has a 925016:18
yao_ziyuan        [virtual] Expansion ROM at f8000000 [disabled] [size=128K]16:18
yao_ziyuan        Capabilities: <access denied>16:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)16:18
jussi01yao_ziyuan: please dont do that again. use pastebin16:19
yao_ziyuansomehow i think when the channel has low traffic, a casual multi-line paste is fine...16:19
BluesKajyao_ziyuan , jussio1, yes I agree but it may do more like 3D and DRI with the restricted driver , that's been my experience with the Radeons16:19
jussi01yao_ziyuan: I dont agree. please use pastebin.16:19
jussi01BluesKaj: no, the restricted driver does not cover older radeons.16:20
BluesKajperhaps the ATI  8.28.8 driver will help then, http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon-prer200.html16:21
yao_ziyuansometimes i see a white-dashed line in the highlight of the K menu16:22
jussi01BluesKaj: ati dont provide drivers for the older cards, they are covered with full 3d by the radeon open source driver16:22
BluesKajjussi01, define "old" :)16:23
jussi01BluesKaj: mine works perfectly fine with compiz.16:23
yao_ziyuani tried letting KDE draw window shadows and do translucent windows16:24
yao_ziyuanit has a little delay16:24
jussi01BluesKaj: anything under a 950016:24
jussi01!ati | BluesKaj16:24
ubotuBluesKaj: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto16:24
yao_ziyuanubuntu's compiz does not delay16:24
jonathan__yayy finally back on kubuntu16:26
BluesKajjussi01, I'm using a X200 onboard , don't need the how to , thx just the same.16:27
jussio1BluesKaj: no, I gave you the howto link to show which cards need the restricted driver.16:28
cannonhow do I remount my drives?16:30
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drifany good upnp (media sharing) service for (k)ubuntu?16:32
geniicannon: If they have fstab entries, : mount -o remount -a16:32
BluesKajwell, if i had known what poor support ATI does for linux I would have bought a different pc , unfortunately however the driver situation with ati stuff is still pretty muddy. Thx for the heads up on the ati drivers, jussio1.:)16:33
cannonis there a gui for mounting?16:33
geniicannon: System Settings ... Advanced tab ... Disks and Filesystems                           However on occasion (rarely) it will write gibberish into the fstab file, causing grief16:35
drifis there ushare available for 7.04?16:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ushare - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:38
eagles0513875j/w what language is adept programmed in16:40
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ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html16:43
eagles0513875doesnt answer my ?16:43
cannon./media/sda4 is that right for a mount point?16:44
SlimeyPeteeagles0513875: if you fetch the source for adept you can look at it to see which language it's written in16:44
SlimeyPeteI'd guess c++ or python16:44
eagles0513875SlimeyPete: i just need somethign that will give me steps to compile from source16:45
luisjhello guys good morning i need some help16:49
drifthere's gmediaserver, but no kubuntu equivalent?16:49
cannoni created the mount point but it won't let me write to it :(16:50
luisji need to change the clock and also add a user in my computer but when i go to system settings and try to do changes as an administrator it doesnt work it wont let me do anything16:51
luisjit does accept my password but nothing else16:51
luisjcan you helpe me please?16:51
luisjany one please?16:52
cannoni can't seem to read off it either ... just tried to load an mp3 file and it's not working :(16:52
dwidmannluisj: I forgot why it does that, if I ever new, you can use the "date" command in a terminal to set it manually16:53
bobesponjaAlt+F2 doesn't start krunner anymore (KDE3) how can I restart it?16:53
luisji am new in kubuntu what do i have to do?16:53
cannonwhats the chmod code to open up access to a directory?16:53
dwidmannluisj: first open konsole16:53
cannonchmod sda4 770 <<< doesn't work :(16:54
luisjwhat else?16:54
dwidmannluisj: command should look something like "sudo date Apr 10 2008 11:54" I think16:54
dwidmanncannon: are you in the group?16:55
cannonwhat group?16:55
dwidmanncannon: or the owner?16:55
dwidmanncannon: the group that owns the file16:56
cannonam signed in16:56
cannoni have no idea ... I just tried to mount it16:56
dwidmanncannon: ls -l /dev/sda416:56
cannonit's a FAT32 so it can be read in windows too16:56
dwidmanncannon: keeping in mind you shouldn't be changing the perms on a /dev entry anyway16:56
Stomperluisj: just type "sudo kcontrol" and hit enter.... type in your USER Password16:56
cannonthen how else can I read from it or write to it?16:56
dwidmannluisj: that should set the time, you may need to restart kicker for it to take effect but I don't think so16:57
cannonbrw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 4 2008-04-10 16:25 /dev/sda416:57
dwidmanncannon: you need to set the perms in /etc/fstab, "kdesudo kate /etc/fstab"16:58
cannonnone of this stuff makes sense to me :(16:58
dwidmanncannon: it will with time16:58
cannonyeah, but my meds kinda make it hard for me to be patient! lol16:58
dennisterhey all...need some hardware technician help here...is there a channel for this?16:59
dwidmanncannon: bah, excuses excuses :P16:59
luisjhello that last one did really work16:59
luisjthanks a lot16:59
eagles0513875dennister: what issues u having16:59
cannoni wish ... things not working makes me wanna cry at times16:59
dennisteri think i borked the mobo :(16:59
* cannon blames his doctor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!16:59
dwidmanncannon: in /etc/fstab, look for the line for /dev/sda4, in it there will be a lot of other things, but after "defaults" (immediately after, no spaces), put a comma, then "uid=1000,gid=1000"17:00
luisjexpose your problem instead of crying cannon maybe someone will be able to help you17:00
dennisteri think i successfully flashed the mobo's bios (had to), then did the jumper/took out the battery afterwards, like usual, now mobo won't turn on...no power lights to board17:00
dwidmanndennister: bad you, you shouldn't bork your motherboard, it has feelings too!17:00
cannon:O luisj ... what the fook?!?!?!?!?!?17:01
cannoni have been ya noob ... I've been talking about it for ages17:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oftopic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:01
dwidmanndennister: wow, that does sound pretty bad ..... tried taking the battery back out and putting it back in just to check?17:01
dennisterdwidmann: yeah, yeah...i know...i think by taking out the battery i just wiped out all the new bios data I put on it, leaving it blank17:01
luisjwhatdo you mean with FOOK??? cannon?17:02
dennisteryep i tried taking it out again, and putting it back...no power lights to board17:02
dennisteris there any way i can recover from this?17:02
eagles0513875dennister: u on a laptop or desk17:02
dwidmanndennister: sounds borked to me ... motherboard manufacturer might be able to help you17:03
cannonnm, just quit being rude and insensitive luisj17:03
dennisterdesktop...it was given to me as a donation17:03
eagles0513875dennister: if its a desktop it could be one of 3 things is ur power supply working17:03
luisjok well see ya guys thanks everyone be happy17:03
eagles0513875dennister: try and swap it with another one if u tried that then the board is shot17:03
eagles0513875u could contact the mobo manufacutruer and see if u can rma17:04
dennistereagles0513875: it was all working before i tried the bios flash17:04
luisjby the way no one here is being rude, just get to the point and you will get help cannon dont feel offended thats is useless17:04
luisjsee you take care17:04
eagles0513875dennister: did anythign happen while flashing17:04
dennisteri take it putting in another battery from another pc won't help?17:04
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dennistereagles0513875: no, nothing happened...flashing seemed to work well17:05
dwidmanndennister: you're welcome to try, I'm sure you're desperate17:05
eagles0513875dennister: u sure17:05
eagles0513875u sure the cables are all plugged in17:05
dennisteryes, flash utility said it worked17:05
dennistereagles0513875: yes, all the cables are in...hadn't touched the leds section17:06
NyadHow do I add stuff to the part which has my kmenu etc? more specifically, how do I put a link to my home folder there, since that thing only lets me add applets17:06
dwidmannnyad, right click the kmenu, go to edit17:07
eagles0513875dennister: u sure the wire that goes into the prongs on ur motherboard didnt come undone the one that allos u to pwer on ur machine when u press the poewr button17:07
dwidmannNyad: oops, ah, you want to add something to the panel17:07
Nyadya :)17:07
dwidmannNyad: use "add application to panel" in the panel menu17:08
dennisterit's not the end of the world, as i have lots of donated, older pc's now, but the older mobos for all the older cpu's (P3's) i've got are hard to find, so losing a working mobo is still a loss17:08
dwidmannNyad: then use something like "kfmclient exec /home/blah" for the command I suppose17:08
dennistereagles0513875: i'm sure the wire you spoke of is ok...i hadn't touched those (the led panel i spoke of earlier)17:09
eagles0513875dennister: i would double check those come off easily sometimes17:09
geniidrif: The current binary deb at http://ushare.geexbox.org/#Download is for 7.10 and not 7.04 but at that same location they give a repository line which could be added to sources.list and conceivably contain releases for other ubuntu versions17:09
Nyaddwidmann: whats kfmclient?17:10
dennistergenii: hi there...think i borked a mobo after successfully flashing the bios...any way to recover power to mobo?17:10
NyadI just wanna have my home shortcut put there17:10
geniidennister: When you power on do the 3 keyboard lights flash briefly on? If so may yet be hope. If not, the bios is screwed17:11
dwidmannNyad: it's a KDE tool for opening URLs17:12
dennistergenii: after flashing, and removing battery, did I remove all the bios?...haven't checked keyboard lights, but no lights on mobo come on17:12
dwidmannNyad: it opens the appropriate app based on the mimetype of the file17:12
drifgenii: yes, I've seen the page but not the repository you mentioned about (not for 7.10)17:12
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats17:12
cannonhow can I make a directory writable?17:12
eagles0513875change its permissions17:13
cannonlol, how?17:13
geniicannon: Own it17:13
* cannon drops his head17:13
drifgenii: ah, "releases depository"? (old releases)17:13
geniidrif: Probably :)17:13
cannonis that supposed to make any sense to somebody thats never heard of it?17:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drif - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:14
geniicannon: man chown   and man chmod   for syntax on these commands. Depending on the location they are in you may require sudo17:14
drifcannon :D17:14
eagles0513875cannon: right click on it17:14
eagles0513875cannon: or like genii said17:14
cannoni have asked about chmod before but nobody would answer17:14
dennistergenii: if i borked bios, whole mobo is screwed?17:15
drifdennister: depends on mobo17:15
eagles0513875dennister: ouchie17:15
drifgenii: just few tar.bz2 and rpm files :-\17:15
cannonso how do I had a group to ownership of a folder?17:16
dennistergonna try putting another battery in...have some spares17:16
dwidmanncannon: you don't, it can only be owned by one group17:16
geniidennister: There are convoluted ways t bring one back to life since it's only the cmos chip itself messed up. But this is like: buy a new cmos chip from somewhere for exact mb model, or: reprogram the chip by removing it from the mb and using a hardware based standalone chip programmer                or so.Assuming it's in a socket on that boad and not soldered in17:17
cannonso how can I write to it wouthout needing root access then?17:17
dwidmanncannon: you can change that group with the chrgrp command17:17
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cannonan example of syntax?17:17
dwidmanncannon: same as chown, ie: chgrp groupname list of files17:18
cannonchrgrp isn't recognised in terminal17:18
GS3Usercannon: chgrp17:18
dwidmanncannon: maybe I spelled it wrong then, I'm good at doing that17:18
eagles0513875i wanna host my own media stream what pkgs r there that i can use17:18
dennistergenii: yes, that is convoluted...don't think it's worth it, considering these are donated boards17:18
cannoni still need an example of syntax as I jabe mever used chown before17:19
dwidmanncannon: I already gave you the syntax17:19
dwidmanncannon: look up ..... probably highlighted in red17:19
cannonlol, you didn't17:19
GS3Usercannon: chgrp <group> <directory or files>17:19
GS3Usercannon: he did17:19
dennisterbbl...gonna try a couple things, if not, dump the mobo :(17:19
JurgentjeHi... I installed Eclipse Europa cently (not via apt but just a plain install) ... suddenly, Firefox asked me to install a JAVA-client and I took the one that was proposed (don't remember exactly which one it was, but I already removed that one using APT) ... Still, I get the error when trying to launch Eclipse that the Java JRE or JDK is not found in my current PATH. (How) should I set a path in Kubuntu?17:20
geniidennister: If when you power on, the 3 keyboard lights flicker a moment, then the board is passing it's most basic self-test and can be rescued by floppy boot to a disk which just auto-runs the firmware update (although this happens without output to monitor)   Some MSI boards in particular can be worked this way17:20
dwidmannJurgentje: I think the environment variable JAVA_HOME covers that17:21
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Jurgentjedwidmann: errr... I'm pretty noob to Linux on the technical level... where shoulw I find that variable? (if you don't know it out of the top of your head, I'll google it)17:21
MaDeXGuys, anyone know any application that can unpack rar files?17:21
cannonroot@cannon-desktop:/media# chgrp cannon sda417:21
cannonchgrp: changing group of `sda4': Operation not permitted17:21
cannonany ideas?17:22
GS3Usercannon: put sudo in front of the command17:22
dwidmanncannon: I think you set it in the file /etc/environment17:22
Jurgentjethanks, looking into it right away!17:22
dwidmannJurgentje: you should be able to find your jre in /usr/lib/jvm, btw17:23
geniiGS3User: If ou noticed he's running as root and sudo would be redundant and unneccesary.17:23
cannoni already tried sudo ... that was in a root shell17:23
geniicannon: You cannot change ownership on such things as raw devices in /dev   like an sda4 for instance17:23
GS3Usercannon: i occasionaly have issues with permissions on things I torrent, the chgrp command I use goes like this: sudo chgrp <loginname> -R /media/sdq117:23
Jurgentjeyeah, it is there, but for some strange reason, Eclipse is looking for it in /home/myself/opt/eclipse/jre/bin/java :S17:24
dwidmannJurgentje: ie: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin or similar would probably be what you want to set it to17:24
GS3Usercannon: the -R tells it to be recursive17:24
GS3Usercannon: you might try being more specific that sda417:24
MaDeXAnyone know of a app to unpack a rar file?17:24
eagles0513875MaDeX: i know a windos one17:24
MaDeXeagles0513875: thanks but im using this :D17:25
flipstarMaDeX: Ark (you probably need unrar installed)17:25
GS3UserMaDeX: winrar and 7zip for sure, not sure if either of those exist on linux though17:25
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free17:25
DreadKnightMaDeX: yes, use ark but for the rar format i suggest you install kubuntu-restricted-extras17:25
cannonstill getting operation not permitted17:25
MaDeXDreadKnight: thats what im looking for, how doo i go about it17:25
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free17:26
DreadKnightMaDeX: alt + spate, type in console, then in console sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras17:26
dwidmannGS3User: p7zip is available for linux also17:26
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FFForeverhow can i make a cron to run every 30mins?17:26
DreadKnightMaDeX: i meant fire up "konsole", it's a way to do things :-) not the only one17:26
flipstarFFForever: kcron is good for managing cron jobs17:26
FFForeveri need to do it via ssh :/17:27
dwidmannFFForever: ssh -X?17:27
bobesponjaAlt+F2 doesn't start krunner anymore (KDE3) how can I restart it?17:27
FFForeverdoes not work, tried....17:27
MaDeXthanks DreadKnight, downloading 81 meg :/17:27
dwidmannFFForever: try doing it in kcron, then copying the line over?17:27
FFForeverwhere do i put the line?17:28
cannonI typed "sudo chgrp cannon -R /media/sda4" and am still getting "Operation not permitted" :'(17:28
DreadKnightMaDeX: kubuntu-restricted-extras is a meta package, with flash, java, mp3 support, rar etc xD17:28
dwidmannFFForever: /etc/crontab methinks17:28
MaDeXDreadKnight: nice :D Is there a new kubuntu out atm?17:28
eagles0513875hardy beta17:29
flipstarFFForever: /etc/cron.hourly/ for hourly..17:29
dwidmannFFForever: I can think of a way to do it with 2 lines now that I think about it17:29
DreadKnightMaDeX: i'm running a beta of hardy actually :-) final will be release on 22th i think17:29
eagles0513875release is bout the 24th17:29
MaDeXim running beta i think :D17:29
eagles0513875same with me im running the 64bit17:29
flipstarDreadKnight: 24th :)17:29
MaDeXme too D17:29
DreadKnightok 24th my bad :D17:29
* dwidmann is also17:29
eagles0513875best 64bit distro out there open suse is nice but to much bloatware17:29
MaDeXim giving it my 100% of attention17:29
DreadKnighteagles0513875: i agree, they must do something about the bloat installer as well, and improve hardware support :\17:30
MaDeXI think ubuntu is better,  but doesnt like my nvidia cards :/17:30
geniicannon: The mountpoint of something like /media/sda4 retains the ownership and group etc of the original device like /dev/sda4 which in turn is decided by udev each boot. Instead make a subfolder in /media/sda4 and chown that to whatever user is supposed to be writing there.17:30
* dwidmann is too attached to debian-ish distros to care about opensuse17:30
eagles0513875post something on launchpad17:30
eagles0513875dwidmann: only distro that would run on my new laptop and im like u as well too attached to kubuntu17:30
dwidmanngenii: or set the uid and gid in fstab17:31
dwidmanneagles0513875: awww, that's gotta hurt17:31
geniidwidmann: Yes, that also works. I'm just trying to give him the simplest thing to do atm17:31
eagles0513875dwidmann: ya right now im using my old laptop as my kubuntu dev machine17:31
dwidmanngenii: funny thing is that that was exactly what I told him to do fifteen minutes ago, d'oh17:32
* DreadKnight dislikes juk :\17:32
geniidwidmann: People rarely listen if it looks too complicated  :)17:32
dwidmanngenii: generally people do tend to listen, I think it's more the rare occasion that people don't .....17:33
eagles0513875i do especially since im working on linux cert im always up for learning things17:33
dwidmanngenii: at least on this side of the internet17:33
dwidmannDreadKnight: I never really liked Juk either ..... amarok ftw17:34
DreadKnightdwidmann: really bad move imho to ditch one of the best players with .... eh...17:34
eagles0513875any of u guys know of any pkgs to stream audio17:34
dwidmannDreadKnight: : ??????17:35
DreadKnightdwidmann: well, amarok is not the player in kde4 anymore17:35
genii!info ices2 | eagles051387517:35
ubotueagles0513875: ices2 (source: ices2): Ogg Vorbis streaming source for Icecast 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1-5 (gutsy), package size 54 kB, installed size 248 kB17:35
dwidmannDreadKnight: amarok 2.0 isn't ready yet17:35
eagles0513875genii: is there an mp3 one17:36
geniieagles0513875: Also original ices which does mp3 (ices2 does not)17:36
DreadKnightdwidmann: as far as i know when it will be ready things will remain the same17:36
eagles0513875working on converting someone who streams audio ovr to linux17:36
dwidmannDreadKnight: juk has always been the default kde audio player, just kubuntu and many other distros use a different player for default (ie: amarok, xmms, etc)17:36
DreadKnightdwidmann: hmm you got a point there, so there is still hope for kubuntu :-)17:37
geniieagles0513875: There is also blackice but it is not in the repos17:37
eagles0513875my compiz isnt working right any one able to help me17:37
eagles0513875thanks genii im going to end up asking again i know for sure17:37
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eagles0513875genii: can u link me to the ices home page17:39
geniieagles0513875: ices is in the repos and it can just be installed from Add/Remove programs17:39
* dwidmann runs off to do his taxes17:39
eagles0513875ices isnt ices2 is17:39
eagles0513875can anone help me with compiz17:41
kishore_i have a question with regard to hal and usb storage mount points17:42
kishore_my external drive that used to mount as /media/ext_drive until about 2 hrs ago now mousts at /media/ext_drive-117:42
kishore_This is even after a reboot17:43
kishore_how can i reset this behaviour?17:43
cannonany major benefits to upgrading to 8.04?17:43
eagles0513875cannon: u running 32 or 6417:43
flipstarkishore_: did you tried to delete that old mountpoint ? (if it is unmounted)17:43
cannoni have a 64bit but I don't see a dl for that17:43
eagles0513875ya there is im running 804 64bit17:44
eagles0513875ill link u17:44
cannonPC (Intel x86) desktop CD or 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD17:44
cannonfor intel eagles0513875?17:45
dcorbin_workI click on "Version Upgrade" in Adept Updater.  It /appears/ to be hung on "Downloading and verifying the updgrade tool..."  ideas?17:45
cannoni thought the 64 bit was amd only17:45
eagles0513875cannon: dont think so17:45
cannoncould you link me to the one you dl'd pls?17:45
cannon@ eagles051387517:46
kishore_flipstar: let me try17:46
eagles0513875cannon: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/8.04/17:46
eagles0513875read through em64t is intel 64bit processors17:47
cannoni only see i386 and amd6417:47
flipstaramd64 is 64bit in general17:48
flipstarname is little confusing17:48
cannonyup :P17:48
eagles0513875well its for both intel and amd17:48
kishore_flipstar: thanks that was the issue17:48
flipstarkishore_: it was probably locked up somehow so it just created a new one17:49
Nyadanyone know a simple way to have a home shortcut next to my Kmenu like they have in suse?17:49
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flipstarNyad: the method mentioned before works great17:49
cannonwhats the difference between: kubuntu-8.04-beta-alternate-amd64.iso and kubuntu-8.04-beta-desktop-amd64.iso?17:50
flipstarNyad: add kfmclient exec /home/blah17:50
Nyadhow? I looked but could not find17:50
Nyadadd that to what?17:50
flipstarcannon: alternate is only the pure installer+rescue disk the desktop is a live cd17:50
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flipstarNyad: right click on the K icon then start kmenueditor and click on add17:51
geniieagles0513875: Some research indicates ices2 now supports mp3 (did not previously). Servers available from repositories: darkice, icecast-server, icecast2, liveice17:51
geniieagles0513875: Work required me, apologies on lag17:52
Nyadit has new menu and submenu, no add17:52
eagles0513875sweet thanks genii17:52
geniieagles0513875: np17:53
flipstarNyad: new entry then...17:53
Nyadbut that will add to my kmenu... not to the part next to it17:54
Nyadflipstar: I need to go but I'll be back17:55
cannonshocking dl speeds for that 8.0417:57
flipstaruse p2p :)17:58
helkate87hello. i just installed wlan drivers for my laptop. but it doesnt do the wlan0 config file, how to fix this?17:59
flipstarwhich app do i use to view/edit a ".c" program text ?18:00
cannonwhats the most popular linux distro?18:01
MaDeXcannon: use this one :D18:08
flipstaraccording to the user numbers on freenode its ubuntu then gentoo and then debian18:08
LadyNikonuser number != popularity18:09
LadyNikonjust means people have more questions heh18:09
flipstar1253 on #ubuntu , 963 on #gentoo , 862 on #debian :)18:09
eagles0513875damn compiz18:10
MaDeXhey :D18:10
eagles0513875compiz is fun lol18:11
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geniicannon: Distrowatch has them listed by number of downloads if you're actually interested.18:12
LimCoreeagles0513875: =)18:12
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ubsafderhow do i copy all the file of my home directory to a backup is it "cp -Rxvp" ?18:12
flipstarubsafder: would work, yes18:13
geniiubsafder: -a means archive which does same as -dpR18:13
ubsafdercp -Rxvp /home/user /mybackup/ but it looks like i am missing some files18:13
flipstarit doesnt copy hidden files18:13
geniiubsafder: Won't copy .files18:13
geniiflipstar: heh18:13
flipstarubsafder: why not using konqueror :)18:14
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers18:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about boinc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:14
ubsafderflipstar: yes i noticed how do i copy the hidden files too18:14
flipstarwith 'cp' ? dont know..but in konqueror check view hidden files then just copy all18:15
flipstaror use dd18:15
ubsafderflipstar: how do i use dd for just my home directory18:16
flipstarubsafder: is you home on the root filesystem or has it own partition ?18:17
ubsafderin /home/user18:18
ubsafderall files in one partition18:18
ubsafderok i found the answer thanks bye18:18
Ace2016flipstar: wow?18:24
flipstarwas just funny18:24
Ace2016what was funny?18:25
flipstarwhen people answer there own questions18:26
kbmaniacbig trouble in hardy .... it just did an upgrade and appears to have wiped everything apart from memtest86+ in /boot :(18:32
kbmaniacand it was all going soooo well :(18:32
flipstarkbmaniac: time for a rescue cd18:33
kbmaniacI still have /boot/grub/.... any idea what I have to re install to restore ?18:33
flipstarsounds like no kernel is present18:34
kbmaniacan initrd image18:34
lufthanza_how do I remount my root fs to readonly so I can do a fsck on it?18:34
flipstarkbmaniac: btw hardy in #ubuntu+118:34
kbmaniacyep hello rescue cd !18:34
kbmaniacits the proce of beta software18:35
kbmaniacoh OK moving over ...18:35
NyadThe latest nvidia cards only have trouble in ubuntu and not in other distros right?18:36
MarcC_what's the safest way to run basic compositing in 7.10?18:39
flipstarlufthanza_: init1 (single user mode) might help and there is also an magic sys rq key for that18:40
flipstarlufthanza_: the magic key is ALT+PRINT+U (unmounts all and mount it readonly)18:41
NyadThe latest nvidia cards only have trouble in ubuntu and not in other distros right?18:43
jdongthe magic sysrq key is for emergencies18:43
jdongit should NOT be used for bringing down the system to a fsck unless it's an emergency18:43
jdonginit 1 is correct18:44
jdongas is booting up in recovery mode, then running "mount -o remount,ro /18:44
maikenHi I have an issue mounting NTFS in kubuntu 7.1, actually i don't know how to (i'll need full permanent R/W access)18:45
LimCoremaiken: try -o rw18:45
LimCoreto mount18:45
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion18:45
LimCoreand/or  ,rw to fstab  in options collun18:45
ubotuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz18:46
maikenLimCore plz be more specific18:46
LimCoremaiken:   mount  /dev/whatever  /whetver -o rw   will mount with R/W access18:46
LimCoreman mount18:46
maikenthx Limcore18:48
sigma_1234anyone here used elisa media player before?18:57
NyadThe latest nvidia cards only have trouble in ubuntu and not in other distros right?18:57
NyadThe latest nvidia cards only have trouble in ubuntu and not in other distros right?19:05
geniiNyad: The 8800 series are having difficulties in every distribution of linux19:05
Nyadis that nvidia's fault?19:05
geniiNyad: They have not yet upgraded the linux drivers to support that series. So yes.19:06
Nyadso I suppose hardy won't fix my problem :(19:06
geniiNyad: Not yet, no.19:07
dromerhi all, I changed motherboard recently, changed xorg.conf to use the i810 driver (onboard gpu) and naw X will start, but I can't get past login .. kdm.log says it want's to start GLX, which I don't have the (previous cards) nvidia driver for .. how do I make kdm not start glx? :S19:26
calcmandanhi guys. Day two after a fresh install of 7.10.  Last night I had this problem, and now it happened again.  Just booted up cold and I can't get sound.  Says that the device is busy, but I haven't done anything to spur this.  What can I do, outside of rebooting, to free up the sound?19:29
calcmandanRunning onboard audio from the via chipset.19:30
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Coggzneed help with X19:30
calcmandanany suggestions?19:32
jussio1!ask | Coggz19:33
ubotuCoggz: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)19:33
jussio1calcmandan: do you have any sond aps running at startup?19:34
Coggzhttp://pastebin.com/m46919429 what is wrong with this? X wont start with it19:34
jussio1ie. amarok, skype etc?19:34
calcmandanjussio1: no, if anything ever loads its klipper, korganizer.19:35
calcmandanjussio1: it's just strange. this never happened while i had 6.06. heck if i had any sound apps running, it played whatever on top of what was running.19:36
jussio1Coggz: have you modified your xorg at all?19:36
Coggzyes, but it has been working fine19:36
jussio1calcmandan: yeah, Ive had it before, but I cant remember how I fixed it19:36
jussio1Coggz: what triggered this non starting x, what did you change?19:37
Coggzhave a look, http://pastebin.com/m4691942919:37
Coggzthe wacom bits work, but the display wont19:37
Coggzits a tablet pc19:38
jussio1Coggz: you dont have any resolutions listed...19:40
Coggzill look at this xorg.conf (the one that works but has no table)19:41
jussio1Coggz: remember to back up :)19:42
Coggzya, lol19:42
cannonhardy is kinda buggy19:43
Coggzshould it be as a subsection19:43
jussio1Coggz: back up and grab a new xorg with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and use it as a template19:44
Coggzok, moment of truth... restarting X19:46
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kgrittnIs there a page somewhere that covers how to build postgresql on kubuntu?  I'm failing at the ./configure step.19:58
_Coggz_jussi01: ok, i got it working ta..19:59
matt__will kubuntu 8.04 come out the same time period as ubuntu?19:59
kgrittnI need to be able to build from their CVS tip and apply patches.  The apt-get doesn't cover everything I need.20:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:03
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Seren___I have selected "no splash" in hardy20:04
Seren___it starts but it looks rather broken20:04
Seren___there is no icon, only a rectangular blue area with a truncated text20:04
jussio1Seren___: hardy support in #ubuntu+1 :)20:05
matt__has kde 4.*********** improved much since ??? IE, is the newest any better than 4.0?20:05
jussio1matt__: I suggest you ask the kde4 users in #kubuntu-kde4 :)20:06
Seren___matt__ : yes it is much better20:06
Seren___but it is not quite there yet20:06
kgrittnHow do I correct this?: /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory20:07
matt__Seren___: alright, do you use it most/all the time though?20:08
matt__Seren___: good enough for that?20:08
Seren___matt : I only had a sneakpeak, it crashed once or twice, on since there is double application like konsole/kd3 and konsole installed, I wiped it out and went back to 3.5.920:09
Seren___but now I am pretty sure I will switch once it is ready20:09
kgrittnFor the record, I was able to get past that first error with: apt-get install libc6-dev (thanks to google searches).20:14
_Coggz_how do i get a command to execute on startup20:15
Seren____Coggz_:  put it in ~\.kde\Autostart if you want to launch it at the start of the user session20:15
_Coggz_no, at boot20:16
Seren___there is something like locale.rc or something20:17
Seren___but I can't remember the exact name at the moment20:17
Seren___I am looking for it20:17
_Coggz_it doesn't work if i place it there20:17
Seren___what do you want to start ?20:18
kaminixI have a CD from Poland with pictures which my konqueror can't read, when trying to copy the files to a USB memory it says it can't find the files. How can I copy them?20:18
kaminixDoesn't work in Bash using wild card stuff.20:18
_Coggz_Seren___: sorry, i was away, i need to run the command xsetwacom set stylus Button2 3, then xsetwacom set stylus Button3 220:21
Seren___did you try to put that in a Autostart ? Just to see if it is sufficient ?20:23
Seren___unless you want it for all users on the machine20:23
_Coggz_hmm, could, but i need to pass arguments20:23
_Coggz_ill ask in ubuntu20:24
Seren___create a file like "wavecom.sh"20:24
Seren___and inside put !#/usr/bin/sh on the first line20:24
Seren___and then your two commands on the next two lines20:24
Seren___chmod +x ./wacom.sh20:24
Seren___and it should work20:25
ubotuTo make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot20:25
rickestSeren___: it's usually #!/bin/sh20:25
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto20:25
Seren___thx rickest I always got that wrong :)20:25
fdoving seren___ it's /bin/sh, but the rest is correct :)20:25
fdovingah, nevermind.20:26
fdovingtoo late :)20:26
rickestSeren___: I do, too, switching back & forth between perl & bash  heh20:26
_Coggz_where do i put the file? in .Autostart?20:29
rickest_Coggz_: ~/.kde/Autostart folder20:29
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Seren___coggz : you should first try to run your script with " .\wacom.sh" to see what happens20:32
_Coggz_./wacombutton.sh: line 1: !#/bin/sh: No such file or directory20:33
fdoving_coggz_: #! not !# :)20:34
fdovingcomputers are picky. :)20:34
_Coggz_bash: ./wacombutton.sh: bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory20:36
cannonhey all20:36
Seren___coggz : type "which sh" in a konsole20:36
Seren___an copy that next to #!20:36
Seren___without space20:36
fdoving_coggz_: you forgot the first / i guess.20:36
_Coggz_well done fdoving, lol im not used to this tiny keyboard20:37
cannonis it possible to upgrade to 8.04 through adept?20:38
pteaguewhen i press 'print screen' does it act like windows & simply puts it in the klipboard or does it save it as an untitled image somewhere?20:39
Seren___cannon : not yet I think20:39
_Coggz_now i have no keyboard!20:39
cannonthen how did ya type? lol20:39
_Coggz_tablet pc20:39
Seren___coggz : how did you type that ?20:39
cannonnot the only one thinking it then :P20:40
cannonwith the mouse?20:40
Seren___pteague : it does launch ksnapshot I think20:40
Seren___or at least I configured my desktop that way20:40
_Coggz_no,pen on the screen20:40
pteaguei seem to have to manually launch ksnapshot...20:40
_Coggz_got a cheap tablet pc, acer20:41
pteaguegoing into system settings -> keyboard & mouse -> keyboard shortcuts -> global shortcuts & scrolling down the list...  "Desktop Screenshot" has shortcut "Print"20:41
Seren___coggz : it is probably related to the wacom command, there must be other option to keep the keyboard working20:42
Seren___(unless it was you intention all along )20:42
Seren___do you want to have your keyboard active or do you want to switch to the tablet ?20:42
cannonwhats the most popular linux distro?20:42
Seren___cannon : you can check distrowatch20:43
Seren___which is not that reliable but is supposed to give an idea20:43
_Coggz_well i fold the screen back so the keyboard is hidden20:44
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_Coggz_acer travelmate C111tCi20:45
Seren____Coggz_: ok I understand now20:45
rcg1984hello all, what's the command to view unmounted hard drives that linux has found so I can in-return mount them?20:46
cannonhmmm, ubuntu is no 1 yet kubuntu is no 1420:46
_Coggz_unrelated: how do ¡ disable compiz20:49
geniiwho had the polish cdrom they could not copy files from? I think perhaps the answer is to specify in the mount fstab line or command ISO-8859-2 as the iocharset20:52
_Coggz_it was kam¡nix20:53
geniikaminix: Still here?20:53
genii_Coggz_: Thanks20:54
cannonwhy on eath do linux apps not come with an installer?20:54
geniicannon: They do. It's called Adept or Synaptic20:54
kaminixgenii: Well, yes, but I don't have my USB memory here now so I can't try it out. Would love to know for future reference though.20:54
cannonthere are plenty of apps that don't have an installer though20:55
cannonlike if I dl em from the web20:55
Seren___if it is not a .deb, you probably have a readme somewhere telling you to "make install" or something20:56
geniicannon: Thats because sinc so many distributions if a standalone installer for each there would be hundreds of the same program but just for different flavours. Thats why there's source code.20:56
jussio1cannon: its because noone has packaged them yet, there is a great packaging guide if you care to get involved...20:57
ubotuThe packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports20:57
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cannonyes I would jussi ... pls link me21:01
cannonjussio1: could you help me mount my drives pls?21:04
cannoni kept getting errors earlier21:05
ubuntuiam having a grub 15 error. any help?21:06
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:12
cannoni have typed this: "cannon@cannon-desktop:~$ ssh cannon@###.###.###.###" to try and log into ssh to test it and I get nothing ... just a blank line ... any ideas?21:14
geniiubuntu: Whats the last thing that happened before it started doing this?21:14
BluesKajubuntu, alt+F2 , kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst , then make sure hiddenmenu has a comment in front like this , #21:14
eagles0513875cannon: try type ssh21:14
eagles0513875cannon: nm21:14
geniicannon: ssh -l cannon x.x.x.x21:14
cannonwhats the -l for?21:14
geniicannon: login name21:14
cannonahh, connection timed out on the previous atempt with out the -l21:15
ubuntugenii BluesKaj brb21:15
eagles0513875BluesKaj: what u dog21:15
eagles0513875ubuntu: whats the error msg ur getting21:16
cannonusage: ssh [-1246AaCfgKkMNnqsTtVvXxY] [-b bind_address] [-c cipher_spec]21:16
cannon           [-D [bind_address:]port] [-e escape_char] [-F configfile]21:16
cannonthat can't be right?21:16
ubuntueagles0513875 1521:16
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eagles0513875ubuntu: let me do a google search21:17
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:18
eagles0513875ubuntu: u duel booting21:18
ubuntuerror 1521:18
eagles0513875ubuntu: http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/Ubuntu-10-grub-error-15-ftopict380877.html21:18
eagles0513875u trying to boot to windows or linux21:19
eagles0513875and is it windows xp or vista21:19
ubuntujust amin21:21
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ubuntueagles0513875 back. ya i was trying to dual boot. windows and ubuntu. windows is booting. ubuntu is not21:22
eagles0513875was this a clean install21:22
eagles0513875how new is ur machine21:23
eagles0513875and ur windows version xp or vista21:23
eagles0513875ok thats interesting21:23
eagles0513875can u even get to a command line21:23
eagles0513875u can get into windows right21:24
eagles0513875u have anything u need o ur linux partition21:24
eagles0513875and r u trying to install hardy beta or gutsy21:24
ubuntui have installed 7.10 already21:24
cannoni need help opening ports21:24
eagles0513875and u cant bot it21:24
eagles0513875cannon: im not much help in that dept21:25
kubunteroubuntu: What's the problem ?21:25
geniierror 15 means it can't find the files it needs directly after the kernel is loaded. Usually this is caused by a faulty root= line in menu.lst21:25
ubuntukubuntero grub error 1521:25
ubuntugenii ok. how to solve it21:26
ubuntublackflag it has a #21:26
will00ey im tryin to do a fresh kubuntu install, but when i reboot, i get a grub error 1521:27
eagles0513875will00: gutsy21:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about icecast2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ice - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:27
will00beg pardon?, its the latest version whatever it is21:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ices - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:27
eagles0513875will00: hardy21:28
kubuntero!info icecast | eagles051387521:28
ubotueagles0513875: Package icecast does not exist in gutsy21:28
eagles0513875im on hardy btw21:28
kubunterowill00: Sounds like you have a bad root= line in your grub21:28
will00eagles0513875: ok so what exactly are you telling me to do?21:28
geniieagles0513875: preface with: info21:28
genii!info icecast221:28
ubotuicecast2 (source: icecast2): Ogg Vorbis and MP3 streaming media server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.1-5.1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 264 kB, installed size 728 kB21:28
ubuntueagles0513875 kubuntero i think ill just reinstall kubunty21:28
kubunteroubuntu: Did you read the Grub factoid ?21:29
eagles0513875ubuntu: sometimes its better if u dont wana mess with grub21:29
kubunteroI assume you have a live CD :)21:29
ubuntukubuntero nop. let me21:29
eagles0513875kubuntero: u have the same problem as ubuntu21:29
eagles0513875genii: does icecast have gui21:29
kubunteroeagles0513875: not that I know of. Might havea web server in it by now21:29
geniieagles0513875: There is a primitive web interface21:30
kubunteroeagles0513875: No I can mount NTFS drives but I can't mount ext2 or ext3 drives21:30
eagles0513875genii: rather complex21:30
* kubuntero gives genii koffee21:30
will00anyone know why a fresh install would return a grub error 15?21:30
kubunterowill00: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows21:31
geniikubuntero: Thanks, need it :)21:31
eagles0513875will00: could bea an error when u burned the iso21:31
will00doubtful, it matched the md5sum21:31
eagles0513875have u guys checked launchpad21:31
kubunterowill00: Don't know but it should be pretty easy to fix /workaround21:32
kubunterogenii: Any clue why I wouldn't be able to mount ext2 or ext3 drives but can mount ntfs ?21:32
mkquistwill00: so u have the cd?21:33
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions21:33
will00mkquist: yea i do, runnin the live dvd now21:33
kubunterojussio1: I'm assuming that's for me?21:33
mkquistwill00: checked ur menu.lst?21:33
will00how do i do that?21:33
ubuntuwhere are the kde configs placed?21:34
jussio1kubuntero: yeps :)21:34
jussio1ubuntu: ~/.kde21:34
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kubunterojussio1: I'm also assuming you didn't read my issue :)21:34
kubunteroubuntu: configs for what ?21:34
mkquistwill00: open terminal and goto something like /media/hd1/ (or wherever u installed ubuntu) and goto /boot/grub/21:34
ubuntujussi01 kubuntero eagles0513875 how to reinstall grub21:35
jussio1kubuntero: no. all I saw was: [23:29:32] <kubuntero> genii: Any clue why I wouldn't be able to mount ext2 or ext3 drives but can mount ntfs ?21:35
kubunteromkquist: Kind ahard if you can't boot :)21:35
jussio1!grub | ubuntu21:35
ubotuubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:35
ubuntukubuntero all types. np. .kde is the one21:35
mkquistwill00: no use the live cd terminal21:35
kubunteroubuntu: ubuntuhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows21:35
mkquistwill00: can do same thing in live cd21:35
eagles0513875ubuntu: not sure i just reinstall21:35
ubuntueagles0513875 reinstall distro. or grub?21:35
kubunterojussio1: Right so NTFS works fine. Linux file systems do not21:36
eagles0513875ubuntu: distro21:36
will00ok im there21:36
kubunteroand I'll assume that !ext3 doesn't help :)21:36
eagles0513875ubuntu: wait21:36
mkquistwill00: in terminal?21:36
eagles0513875ubuntu: question how old is the hard drive21:36
ubuntueagles0513875 2 days21:36
jussio1kubuntero: hehe, sorry, missread21:36
geniikubuntero: Are these external drives you're having the issue with? (or usb stick, etc)21:36
mkquistwill00: type 'cd /' no quotes of course21:36
eagles0513875ubuntu: that rules out the possibility of bad harddrive21:36
x_linkDoes anybody know where I can get Kubuntu Gutsy 64-bits Live CD?21:37
mkquistcd media21:37
kubunterogenii: no the hard drives on the computer21:37
eagles0513875genii: what was the name of the 3rd streaming audio program21:37
eagles0513875x_link: give me a min21:37
will00ok iv already navigated to the grub menu21:37
will00*folder not menu21:37
ubuntueagles0513875 i used partition magic in window to check some fat partitions for bad sectors. rebooted. and grub failed.21:37
eagles0513875x_link: http://kubuntu.org/download.php21:37
kubunteroubuntu: Ah interesting21:37
geniieagles0513875: liveice ?21:37
mkquistwill00: sudo gedit menu.lst or just gedit to look at it21:38
eagles0513875ubuntu: thats what probably messed it up21:38
eagles0513875genii: not sure if it was that u told me bout ice2 icecast21:38
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x_linkeagles0513875: I found it now, thanks anyway =)21:38
eagles0513875i need something with a gui21:38
will00ok i dont have gedit21:38
geniieagles0513875: Yes21:38
eagles0513875x_link: no prob21:38
dan_Hi !21:38
kubunteromkquist: In Kubuntu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst21:38
ubuntueagles0513875 kubuntero well those fats had nothing to do with ext3. any ways. i ll reinstall kubunty21:38
geniieagles0513875: Also darkice21:38
will00ok that i can do21:38
kubunteromkquist: kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst to edit it21:38
rcg1984I have 4 hard drives hooked up via raid Array 0.  How do I find out if linux recognizes the hard drives?21:38
dan_I have a little question about harddrive icon on desktop...21:38
mkquistkubuntero: sry forgot which channel i was in...21:38
ubuntubye :)21:39
kubunteroubuntu: Which ever is easier for you. reinstall or fix grub21:39
geniikubuntero: Does it give you any cryptic explanation of why it can't mount them?21:39
ubuntukubuntero reinstalling is21:39
kubunterofix grub should be faster but reinstall is easier21:39
kubunterogenii: doesn't recognize the FStype21:39
dan_Even I chek the option, I can't see it on desktop21:39
ubuntukubuntero eagles0513875 how to make backups of whole partition image. with good compression21:39
kubuntero even if I say this is the type21:39
eagles0513875dont know much bout backing up never really had to21:40
mkquistwill00: sry abou that21:40
kubunteroubuntu: dd with gzip ?21:40
geniikubuntero: You've tried like:  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/devname /mount/point           type syntax?21:40
mkquistwill00: *about21:40
kubunterogenii: yup21:40
geniikubuntero: Perhas need fsck21:40
ubuntukubuntero best way?21:40
kubunteroIt says bad fstype or bad superblock21:41
kubunteroI ran fsck21:41
kubunteroruns in like seconds and says it's all good21:41
eagles0513875genii: do either of those 2 have a gui21:41
kubunteroubuntu: I don't know your setup so I can't make an informed suggestion21:41
kubunterogenii: How long should fsck take on a 60 GB drive ?21:42
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning21:42
ubuntukubuntero eagles0513875 i have g4l ghost for linux . i think it uses partimage. its compresion is good. bzip2 i think. but it dont uncompresses the image file to see or copy a single file. (only restore images)  any better ideas?21:43
geniikubuntero: depends on a few variables but generally longest should be 20 minuts21:43
kubunteroubuntu: tarballs of file system diffs ?21:43
kubunteroNo what's the shortest ?21:44
kubunteroI'll time it and tell you21:44
ubuntukubuntero what?21:44
kubunterogenii: real    0m0.097s21:44
will00ok im readin thru the menu.lst21:44
kubunteroThat's how long it took21:44
eagles0513875genii: there is gnump3d which has a gui21:44
kubunteroubuntu: Look at amanda21:45
geniikubuntero: When just checking journalling can be a possible #21:45
ubuntukubuntero what is amanda21:45
mkquistwill00: check the entry for ur kubuntu install make sure it's pointing at the right place, sometimes it gets confused, ive had that happen exactly and got grub error 1521:45
kubuntero!info amanda > ubuntu21:45
geniikubuntero: Work is yelling for me21:46
kubuntero!info bacula > ubuntu21:46
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.21:46
will00yea i checked and its there21:46
kubunterogenii: Take the pot of coffe I won't have any21:46
* kubuntero sips a cup of horlicks21:46
ubuntukubuntero why are you telin gme that21:46
ubotuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org21:46
ubuntukubuntero oh ok21:47
kubunteroubuntu:  You wanted backup solutions that allowed you to restore single files right ?21:47
kubunteroUbotu shuld have given you info privately21:47
mkquistwill00: but does it have the correct drive/partition listed for ur linux install?21:48
will00mkquist, yea it does21:49
will00mkquist unless it should have (hd1,0) before the /boot21:50
kubunteroubuntu_: hi21:50
geniiGotta go21:51
ubuntu_where are you from21:52
mkquistwill00: so second hard drive first partition? and no it does not..21:52
will00mkquist: yea thats right21:53
mkquistwill00: thats where ur linux install is?21:53
kubunteroubuntu_: Do you have a support question ?21:53
eagles0513875!offtopic |ubunu_21:54
ubotuubunu_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!21:54
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mkquistwill00: id make sure, that was my suggestion.. so u get a grub menu? it just errors out when u try to pick kubuntu right?21:56
mkquistwill00: so u get no menu at all?21:56
mkquistwill00: but u can boot to windows?21:56
will00i dont have windows21:56
mkquistwill00: oh sorry, thought u did, so no boot at all then21:57
mkquistwill00: then whats on partition (hd0,0)?21:57
will00i have an old ide 250 gig that i didnt wanna toss21:57
mkquistwill00: so linux worked before then?21:57
ubuntu_kubuntero: sorry21:58
will00no i was runnin gentoo before, and i had MAJOR issues with that, so i switched back to kubuntu (which was runnin on it before)21:58
_myrtille_somebody knows wine here? I'm not getting answers in the wine-channel21:59
kubunteroubuntu_: No worries just keep chatter in the right rooms. If you want to talk then #kubuntu-offtopic is the place21:59
_myrtille_i'd like to run batchfiles from the winecmdline21:59
kubuntero_myrtille_: #winehq ?21:59
_myrtille_jepp, there doesn't seem to be anyone in there22:00
_myrtille_at least they're not responding ;)22:00
mkquistwill00: so u installed from dvd? over ur gentoo install?22:00
will00yea i formatted the drive, then installed22:01
mkquistwill00: are u sure ur music is on (hd0,0)? and not ur linux install?22:01
ubuntu_kubuntero: ok22:01
will00well with gentoo, i had to put set it to (hd0,0) even though grub recognizes it as (hd1,0)22:02
mkquistwill00: try changing ur menu.lst to (hd0,0) for linux and see if it boots...22:03
trappistwill00: I have that issue with distros that enable "boot offboard chipsets first" support in the kernel, in boxes with onboard raid cards, pci ide cards, etc.22:03
alexei_hi, anybody has an idea how to make WLAN-keys from kdewallet accessible to knetworkmanager without typing a password everytime?22:03
mkquistwill00: u can always put it back w/live dvd22:03
trappistwill00: could also try "ide=reverse" as a kernel parameter22:03
will00ok im gonna try changin the grub conf22:04
ForzaPalermo hey i got a question about samba, i have a share working fine on my linux server to windows, but how do i give different rights of the folders in the shares to my users22:04
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.22:04
ForzaPalermoit seems to only work at the top level, and i dont want to create a different share with the same folder22:04
_Coggz_how do i test my microphone?22:05
mkquisttrappist: u can swap drive id in grub too, but why bother?22:05
noaXess_Coggz_: audacity... its a great audio tool22:06
ForzaPalermothe wiki doesnt say anthing about folders in a share22:07
ForzaPalermoi just want one folder in the group to have full read write access22:07
_Coggz_cool, just apt'ing noaXess22:07
billytwowillyCan anyone recommend a good host for email for a small business? we have 10-20 email accounts at any one time and just need pop access22:10
billytwowillypm me please22:11
noaXessbillytwowilly: i think you are at the wrong place22:11
avivisome one can help me to install firefox?22:11
billytwowillynoaXess, can you point me to the right place? I semi trust you guys, so I figured you would be good people to ask.22:12
_Coggz_use apt-get avivi22:12
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins22:12
will00no dice22:12
noaXessbillytwowilly: googling for a provider in your contry or area..22:13
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billytwowillynoaXess, I don't trust google;) Somone pointed out #ubuntu-offtopic, so I'll ask in there22:13
noaXessavivi: sudo apt-get install package-name22:14
mkquistwill00: same error?22:16
mkquistwill00: have u tried just reinstall grub?22:16
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dan_someone can help with dekstop harddrive icon ?22:19
mkquistwill00: whats the output of fdisk -l?22:20
mkquistwill00: can u pastebin it?22:21
kubunterodan_: Hmm>22:21
kubunteroyou want one ?22:21
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will00should that have been done from a chrooted environment?22:22
dan_if I can yes ;)22:22
dan_On other distro, is there...22:22
will00sorry forgot i had to do that as root22:23
dan_I choose the option on desktop option, but icon not appear22:23
dan_In peripherik icons, I check harddrive mounted, and unmounted.22:24
dan_Cdrom too22:24
mkquistwill00: your device.map?22:25
dan_I will came back, i have to go...22:26
dan_thansk !22:26
will00mkquist, h/o22:28
mkquistwill00: ?22:28
will00im pasting it now22:28
will00there ya go22:29
avivihow can i register?22:30
jussio1!regster | avivi22:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about regster - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:31
jussio1!register | avivi22:31
ubotuavivi: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.22:31
mkquistwill00: u have two drives flagged to be boot drives22:31
mkquistwhats kubuntu use to partition drives?22:32
kubunteromkquist: You mean what does it use ?22:32
_Coggz_anyone know how to get an intel microphone to work with alsa?22:32
noaXessmkquist: fdisk..22:32
kubunteroor what is it's use in partitioning drives?22:32
noaXessmkquist: or qtparted22:33
mkquistwill00: open ur partition editor and unflagged hdb1 and set (hd1,0) back in grub and give it a go22:33
mkquistwill00: *unflag22:33
will00u mean like make it inactive?22:33
mkquistwill00: like dont have it flagged to be a boot partition22:34
* amgine is away: homework...22:34
will00ok lemme try that22:34
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joaobarreiras78hi. how do i unmute the channel mixer?22:36
kubunterojoaobarreiras78: middle click on kmix22:37
joaobarreiras78what is kmix?22:37
joaobarreiras78where can i find it on the pc?22:37
SlimeyPetekmix is the little speaker icon in the system tray22:38
kubunterojoaobarreiras78: the sound volume icon in the system tray22:38
joaobarreiras78ahh ok22:38
joaobarreiras78but isnt there a way that i use "alsa mixer" or oss mixer ?22:39
joaobarreiras78that is in the console22:39
SlimeyPeteyou can run "alsamixer" in a terminal22:40
joaobarreiras78to unmute is the 'u' key right?22:41
DarkestHourjoaobarreiras78: the konsole also has auto completion that you may find usefull, try typing alsa and pressing tab once or twice it'll let you list applications in the path.22:41
SlimeyPetejoaobarreiras78: "m" I think22:42
DarkestHourSlimeyPete: is correct, it's m22:42
rootlinuxusri feel dirty... i'm vbox'ing windows 98... =/22:43
DarkestHourlol, you should!22:44
rootlinuxusrmeh just want to have them to say i have them?22:44
rootlinuxusrnah, website testing...22:44
DarkestHouri vbox winxp. i have to due to most of my clients running xp.22:45
rootlinuxusryeah i have xp too22:45
_Coggz_i have xp on my other laptop, just because...22:45
rootlinuxusrSo I can help the nublets that always come calling "fix my computer...."22:45
DarkestHouryeah, lol22:45
_Coggz_your one of them dudes...22:46
rootlinuxusri feel really dirty though, I'm too lazy to erase the other half of this kubuntu dual-boot...shitza22:46
rootlinuxusrthough i never use it.22:48
rootlinuxusrjust too lazy xD22:48
_Coggz_i have a whole hd full of Win ME22:48
rootlinuxusrand I thought I was bad... xD22:49
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joaobarreiras78i am having problems with my sound and i follow some instrucions and that did installed on my pc a bunch of things (alsa driver, lib, utils) and in the end of installacion it say that i needed to unmute some channels (i dont know were but i thing it was on alsa mixer or oss mixer) because they were MUTED by default after installation.22:50
joaobarreiras78how do i do that?22:50
joaobarreiras78need some help. me = newbie22:50
_Coggz_what, un mute?22:51
rootlinuxusrit should be in kmixer if you are using kubuntu22:51
joaobarreiras78yes, i think i need to unmute some channels22:51
rootlinuxusrthe thing that looks like a pc speaker in the top right22:51
_Coggz_yes, look for the speaker icon on the sytem tray22:51
joaobarreiras78im in ubuntu22:51
_Coggz_ask in ubuntu22:51
_Coggz_whoa... thats freaky... i have nohash key22:52
joaobarreiras78its only that?22:52
rootlinuxusrare you sure it's ubuntu?22:52
rootlinuxusrdo you see a 'k' menu?22:52
rootlinuxusror programs, administration, etc22:52
jhiseJoa...through the speaker icon, you can usually get to an additional interface with all the tracks.22:53
jhiseYou will see things like Main and PCM. Those should not be muted and turned up.22:53
jhiseIt's a matter of you getting to this interface though. Depending on your distribution, it's a little different.22:54
_Coggz_i have no hash key!!!22:54
_Coggz_it comes up as backsplash22:54
jhiseDood Ihave your hash key.22:54
jhiseAnd I want 1 million dollars22:54
rootlinuxusrnah weezer does22:54
_Coggz_this is no joke, although i do have 1 million dollars22:54
rootlinuxusrthey just call it a pipe22:54
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jhiseMan I have no idea how one loses their has key.22:55
rootlinuxusri has it22:55
_Coggz_no, it has the hash on the keyboard22:55
jhiseExcept that maybe you managed to switch to Korean or something.22:55
_Coggz_no, everything else is fine22:55
_Coggz_maybe not22:55
_myrtille_you're having fun :)22:58
_myrtille_can i play, too? ;)22:58
_Coggz_#i never knew how fun hash was (i dont mean the drug)22:58
_Coggz_join me in the channel ##22:59
_Coggz_it is teh hash channel23:00
will00mkquist, no dice still, i had dinner too23:01
_Coggz_no dice?23:01
mkquistwill00: hmm same error?23:03
mkquistwill00: uknow i just assumed that the 80 gig is where u installed kubuntu is that correct?23:05
will00yea it is23:05
mkquistwill00: hmm, then id try reinstalling grub, easy enough to do...23:05
will00i do know that if i manually configure the drives, i get to a grub menu23:06
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mkquistwill00: what do u mean manually configure drives?23:17
will00in the kubuntu installation program, u have the option of either using a default, a guided setup, or you can manually partition them23:18
mkquistoh ic23:19
will00well lemme reboot and see if that worked23:19
DatzHello, I am try to install on a kubuntu powerpc on a mac23:23
DatzI don't have enough ram to load the live portion23:24
Datzso tried "live-nosplash"23:24
SlimeyPeteis there a powerpc alternate CD?23:25
SlimeyPetethe x86 alternate CD includes a text-based installer.23:25
cykawho's alive23:27
Datzafter I load "live-nosplash" that gets me to (initramfs) command like  "build-in Shell"23:27
Datzhow can I install from there?23:27
cykaanyone know how to make the desktop animated under kde 3..5?23:28
cykadone it once before but only by mistake23:28
cykaand also why it forgets what my desktop is23:28
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DatzI need help to install Kununtu on my old imac with 64MB of ram23:30
DatzI have the powerpc distro cd loaded23:30
nonewmsgsdatz are you sure?23:30
DatzI was informed that I don't have enough ram to run the live portion23:31
Datzso, I just want to install23:31
nonewmsgsDatz:  you dont have enough ram to run kubuntu very well23:31
DatzI see23:32
nonewmsgsdatz i would advise sometihng more like damn small linux23:32
Datzwell, is there any other distro you can think of that will work better?23:32
Datzlol, ok thx I will look into it23:32
nonewmsgsi mean if you insisit we will certainly help you23:32
nonewmsgsand if you need help with that ill help with that too23:32
Datzcool thx23:33
Datzwell, I don't see a power pc port for DSL23:33
Datzor Damn Small Linux*23:34
Datzso I would like to install Kubuntu23:34
Datznonewmsgs, restarting going to boot to Kubuntu cd23:34
znoG_hey, anyone know if there is a way to find out how a particular package in the gutsy repository was built? i want to upgrade a package from source and i want to use the same configure line and do the post-steps manually on it.23:35
nonewmsgsi know you can download source in synaptic23:36
Datznonewmsgsok, ok I get text indicating this is Kubuntu live CDROM, default option is live...23:36
Datzhow do I install without booting to live portion?23:36
dwidmannDatz: unless its the dvd, you don't23:36
Datzdwidmann, humm, so I can't install it on this pc if it dosn't have a DVD ROM23:37
Datzif I can23:37
Datzcan't boot to live?23:37
dwidmannDatz: well, you could use the alternate cd also23:37
Datzalternate cd...?23:38
dwidmannI slightly misread the question23:38
dwidmannthe alternate cd uses a text-only installer23:38
Datzhumm, ok23:38
nonewmsgsbut is there an alt cd for ppc?23:38
dwidmannnonewmsgs: should be ....23:38
* nonewmsgs isn't very familiar with power pcs23:39
Datzmaybe I should look into DSL23:39
nonewmsgseveryone here will be glad to help you the best they can23:39
dwidmannDatz: why's that?23:39
Datzeither that or Small Dog Linux23:39
nonewmsgsdwidmann: he has 64mb.  i don't even know if k would run with that23:40
dwidmannnonewmsgs: wow, I doubt that's even enough memory to run the alternate install cd very well. Go for DSL.23:40
Datzok, there is a powerpc version of DSL?23:40
nonewmsgsthere is also a #damnsmalllinux one23:40
dwidmannlivecd requires like 192MiB of RAM minimum .... forget how much the alternate requires but it's more like 96 MiB or something23:41
dwidmannit'll do it with less it'll just take a really long time23:41
Datzhumm , so still won't work for me I guess23:42
Datzplus I would rather have something that runs decently fast23:42
nonewmsgshow much differnet are power pcs?  i mean aren't they supposed to be able to run windows?23:42
dwidmannnonewmsgs: no, the new macs use intel procs23:42
nonewmsgsi remember using windows95 (maybe 98) on one of those big blue macs and i thuoht they were power pcs23:43
cykaso would any one like to vaulenteer some help?23:43
cykathe G3?23:43
cykaaall the G series of CPU were essnetia;lly powerpc's23:44
SlimeyPetenonewmsgs: neither win95 nor 98 ever ran on mac23:44
SlimeyPetethough I imagine there were/are x86 daughterboards available23:44
nonewmsgsSlimeyPete: it might have been some kind of virtual machine23:45
nonewmsgsSlimeyPete: but it definitely ran it23:45
SlimeyPeteprobably via a daughterboard then23:45
nonewmsgsSlimeyPete: virtualpc i think was it23:45
SlimeyPeteah, virtualpc23:45
SlimeyPeteyeah that's been around a while.23:46
nonewmsgshtf do you disable usb device not recognized nags from windows23:46
cykajesus... i ask for help and no one offers it....23:46
rickestI went one better and disabled windows, period23:46
nonewmsgscyka what was your question23:47
cykahow do u make the desktop aanimated under KDE 3.523:47
cykai've done it once before by mistake23:47
IIGGOORRhi, i have folowing line in grub "kernel /boot/vmlinuz vga=normal ramdisk_size=14972 root=/dev/rd/0 rw –", but on boot i have an error "unable to mount"23:47
cykaand also how do i make it remember my desktop settingfs since evry reboot i have to change the settings back to what i want23:48
nonewmsgs cyka for the 2nd one i think it has to do with write permissions chmod your /home to 77723:48
* chalcedony smiles23:48
cykahowe do u chmod?23:49
nonewmsgscyka: to animate or deanimate K- systemsettings - look and feel (appearance)23:49
cykabeen tehre23:50
cykadoesn't say much on animation tho23:50
szakulecI was trying to use isobuster, which has worked in the past, and the AppDB on winehq says it works, but when I installed it now, it can't find the CD drive23:50
nonewmsgsszakulec: you dont need isobuster23:51
Boohbahszakulec: burning CDs with windows apps on wine?23:52
chalcedonymy husband has KDE gutsy, i have ubuntu feisty, we are trying to share23:52
chalcedonya printer. I had it working for my computer, but whatever he did23:52
chalcedonydisabled it. he wants me to get the kde control module, instead of23:52
chalcedonywhat i have on gnome. will that work, also can i download that with command line, apt-get?23:52
nonewmsgsszakulec: the command dd makes an iso and you can mount it like a drive23:52
chalcedonymy husband has KDE gutsy, i have ubuntu feisty, we are trying to share a printer. I had it working for my computer, but whatever he did disabled it. he wants me to get the kde control module, instead of what i have on gnome. will that work, also can i download that with command line, apt-get?23:53
algyz!printing | chalcedony23:54
ubotuchalcedony: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows23:54
IIGGOORRcan anybody explain what is /dev/rd (i suppose ram disk?)? and why  may proplems with mounting appear?23:54
chalcedonyalgyz: ty, i have System Administration Printing Printers Properties open.. it prints the test page but won't print anything else.23:56
cannonhey guys ... i keep getting errors when trying to extract an archive ... any ideas?23:56
algyzcannon:  what kind of errors?23:56
swattoAnyone got experience with setting up world of warcraft?23:56
cannon"extraction operation failed"23:57
nonewmsgschalcedony: interesting.  even something like a kate document (i forgot what the gnome version is)23:57
algyznonewmsgs:  in gnome it's gedit :)23:58
nonewmsgsalgyz: yes that's it23:58
cannonwhats an alternative to Ark?23:58
algyzcannon:  try tar23:58
nonewmsgschalcedony: try to print something in gedit like a sentence or two23:58
chalcedonyi'll try a2ps23:59
algyzcannon:  also look into output of "apt-cache search archiver"23:59
cannontar is already installed23:59

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