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james_wsorry, got pulled away.00:09
james_wpersia: yes, I realise that it's a problem, and may prevent us from doing much, but I think that the patches that are there may be less visible than they should be, and that we may be discouraging people from getting involved, and so helping to alleviate the problem further, with the current approach.00:10
james_wit's definitely something to discuss further though.00:11
persiajames_w: I completely agree.  There's a few bugs open in LP about it to increase visibility, but there's a good bit left to be done.  It's unfortunate when the developers don't look, and there's not good documentation in the w.u.c/Bugs/ namespace about it.00:12
persiaWhile https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix used to be good advice, I'm not sure everything is in place to handle it right now00:12
james_wsure, the latter is an easy one to fix, so we can certainly do that.00:12
james_wI've got to go to bed.00:12
persiaGood night :)00:12
james_wgrab me tomorrow if you want to chat more about it.00:13
james_wnight all.00:13
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blueyedbdmurray: shouldn't the "kernel-team" get removed? seems like there should be only "ubuntu-kernel-team". See https://launchpad.net/~kernel-team01:26
secretlondoncan someone sanity check my solution to bug #193593 please?03:18
ubotuLaunchpad bug 193593 in audacity "Audacity effects missing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19359303:18
mrooneysecretlondon: which solution do you mean? the "check for ubuntu's version of soundtouch" seems easy and logical03:24
secretlondonmrooney yeah03:25
secretlondonit'll be a patch that will need removing again when we get the later version of the lib03:25
secretlondonideally we'd want the later version, but it looks a bit unmaintained in debian as we are stuck with the older version03:26
mrooneysecretlondon: so that will require a patch to build against it, and one to look for the right version? the solution requires those two things?03:26
secretlondonone solution would be to patch audacity to look for our version of the lib03:27
mrooneysecretlondon: but you would still need to add the flag to compile against libsoundtouch, right?03:27
secretlondona better solution would be to update the lib (which I imagine they won't like in feature freeze), or get the lib to give the upstream name, not the name debian chose03:27
secretlondonbut then other apps may use this lib, and rely on it being called X03:28
mrooneywell I would agree upgrading is probably to invasive03:28
mrooneythough I don't understand what makes giving a different name better than looking for a different name03:29
mrooney*too03:29
secretlondonyeah, even for an obscure sound stretching library03:29
secretlondonthe problem with making it look for our name is that as soon as libsoundtouch gets upgraded audacity will need to be de-patched03:30
mrooneysecretlondon: ahh I see, well unless you can easily check what would depend on it being called the old name, it seems too late to rename it03:30
mrooneyunless you can somehow have it report two names, or check for either, so that it doesn't need a de-patch somehow03:31
secretlondonyeah so maybe get audacity to look for *either* name, and 1.3.0+03:31
secretlondon(they appear to have chosen to look for the latest version as that was what they had in gentoo)03:32
mrooneysecretlondon: yeah, so if it can accept either that seems grand, I think03:32
mrooneyI am hardly an expert in dependency checking though, mind you03:32
secretlondonI think that's what I'll do03:33
* secretlondon thanks mrooney03:36
mrooneyno problem, glad I could help!03:40
mrooneysecretlondon: in return, if you could just fix bug #63352, that would be great :]03:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 63352 in linux "Creative labs X-Fi sound card unsupported" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6335203:42
secretlondoneek03:42
mrooneyI am kidding of course but, I do have no idea whatsoever how that is only "wishlist"03:43
mrooneyI am not even affected by this bug and it seems Medium at least, if not High03:43
secretlondonits a kernel thing probably03:43
secretlondonnot a lot we can do here, someone would need to write support03:44
mrooneyyeah, I just don't understand how that makes it less important03:44
mrooneyas far as I am aware difficulty of solving does not factor into importance but I could be wrong?03:44
secretlondonit doesn't, but in practice ubuntu can't fix it03:44
secretlondononly upstream can fix it, and then we import the fix03:45
mrooneysecretlondon: so, are you saying you agree a greater importance could be hypothetically due?03:52
greg-gmrooney: it is only wishlist and not low/medium/high because it is a new feature, as in, it has never worked before03:52
secretlondonI haven't looked. We have a page on the wiki that explains importances03:52
greg-gsomething new, no matter how much it is wanted by the populus, is wishlist03:52
* secretlondon nods03:52
mrooneygreg-g: thanks I see, I guess it just depends on philosophy03:53
greg-gfor bugs like that, we should subscribe the offending manufacturer, in this case, support@creative.com or whatever it would be :)03:53
mrooney'functioning sound' isn't new, but support for that card would be03:53
mrooneyit seems sticky03:53
mrooneygreg-g: good idea :)03:54
greg-gfunctioning sound depends ENTIRELY on the sound card, so this is a new feature03:54
* greg-g will stop beating a dead horse03:54
mrooneyhaha sorry03:54
cody-somervilleTriaged is the desirable state now for most bugs, yes?03:54
mrooneyI am just saying to an average user getting a new computer, it is a regression03:54
greg-gmrooney: no worries ;)03:54
greg-gdefine regression03:55
mrooneywell, appears as one03:55
cody-somerville(like, when they're ready for developers)03:55
greg-gregression: something used to work, but now doesn't03:55
mrooneythey are used to having sound in ubuntu, now they don't03:55
secretlondonregression is $thingey worked in gutsy, doesn't work in hardy03:55
greg-g"something" in this case would be the sound card03:55
greg-gright03:55
mrooneygreg-g: I really understand what you are saying and I am not disagreeing, just trying to point out how it can also be viewed from another way03:55
mrooneyhmm okay03:56
mrooneyfair enough03:56
greg-gcody-somerville: getting a bug to "triaged" is by far the most desirable state to get a bug by a triager03:56
greg-gmrooney: right right03:56
greg-gI got ya03:56
greg-gcody-somerville: do you have a question on what it means for a bug to be set to "triaged"?03:58
cody-somervilleNo, I just wanted to ensure I understood the new workflow correctly.03:59
cody-somervilleAlthough, I suppose a review wouldn03:59
cody-somerville't hurt :)03:59
greg-gwell, I'm not much in the lecturing mood right now, but if you have any questions, I'll help out in whatever way I can :)03:59
* greg-g sleep04:51
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* secretlondon curses soundtouch, and it's debian packaging06:22
ramviI reported a hardy bug a couple of days ago. It's pretty serious so here I am to help out09:52
ramviI'm not that skilled, but if you need to ask me questions or anything. Take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/21384509:53
ramviIt isn't possible to change keyboard layouts09:53
ramviX hangs09:53
secretlondonbug #21384509:54
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213845 in ubuntu "Computer brought to complete halt when changing keyboard layouts using fglrx" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21384509:54
secretlondonwhy do you think it is connected to the graphics driver?09:56
secretlondonalso bugs against "ubuntu" itself often get ignored09:56
ramviNo. fglrx brings the computer to a complete halt while other drivers just restars x09:56
secretlondonthis is ppc?09:56
ramvithe fglrx bug is already submitted, logging in and out halts the computer09:57
ramviintel09:57
ramvijust change the heading. removed fglrx09:57
secretlondonwe need a lot more information - you running gnome?09:58
ramviYup09:58
ramviProblem 1: Making a change in gnome-keyboard-properties restarts X09:59
ramviProblem 2: If I manage to make changes they are "forgotten" / screwed up after a restart of X10:00
ramviProbably connected in some way..10:00
secretlondonramvi: well if X is crashing then it's highly likely it isn't writing to the config file - it's the same issue10:01
ramviRight10:02
ramvi´╗┐secretlondon, still there? It seems to be connected to fglrx in some way. Now I'm using radeonhd and I was able to change the layouts. They were all screwed up after a reboot though. But I can makes changes - something I cant do while using the fglrx driver10:10
secretlondonI've added a comment to the bug, we need some log files10:11
ramviI'll fix that staight away]10:11
secretlondonyou don't say what you actually mean by "complete halt"10:13
secretlondoni'll add it to the bug10:13
ramviI have to do a hard reboot10:16
ramviblack screen. Nothings works. Dont know if REISUB works cause I dont have a print screen button10:16
secretlondonplease add that to the bug10:17
ramviAll done10:18
ramviI'm going to check the caps lock thing. brb10:19
IulianHeya12:02
pedro_morning bugsquaders!13:10
pedro_remember that today is the compiz hug day13:10
pedro_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/2008041013:10
IulianHello pedro!13:10
IulianHappy hug day!13:10
pedro_feel free to grab any bug of the list and squash it  hard enough :-P13:11
pedro_heey Iulian! to you too13:11
pedro_Iulian: are you doing 5-a-day ?13:11
pedro_dholbach added a new feature to 5-a-day to tag your work13:11
pedro_I've put some brief instructions on how to do it for todays hug day13:12
pedro_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080410#head-6503c137a79e423b033c6e453d243467a6fcd2de13:12
Iulianpedro_: Nop, I was thinking to start to use it but I forget all the time.13:13
Iulianpedro_: Yea, I noticed :)13:13
IulianAh13:13
IulianHow are you today?13:15
pedro_Iulian: I'm good, enjoying the hug day ;-), how about you?13:17
Iulianpedro_: I just got home from a really funny meeting. I am doing good too, thanks. ;)13:22
sourcercitohappy hug day!13:33
IulianHappy hug day to you too, sourcercito!13:33
sourcercitoi see you already start to squash some bugs ;)13:34
sourcercitonothing like the smell of fresh bugs in the morning13:34
sourcercitohehehe13:34
IulianWhooahh!13:34
Iulian$true13:34
Iulian:-)13:34
ramviHow can I help solve bug #215089? This should really be fixed before hardy release. I've even posted the fix13:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 215089 in alsa-driver "Crackling Sound on the left Channel on Macbook Pro" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21508913:40
ramviShould I post something?13:42
james_wramvi: I'm not sure the fix that you posted can be applied.13:42
ramviI have applied it13:42
james_whow?13:42
james_wyou edited /etc/modprobe.d/options?13:43
james_whi secretlondon13:43
secretlondonhi james_w13:43
james_wis 5-a-day working for you again?13:43
ramviDon't remember what I did, over half a year ago, but I edited some file and added something13:43
ramviHi secretlondon and james_w13:43
secretlondonjames_w i've not looked, but I doubt it13:43
ramviIs there a group for posting 5 bugs a day_13:44
james_wyeah, the fix in the wiki can't be applied by Ubuntu, as what value should go in there?13:44
james_wramvi: it's a group for triaging a few bugs every day.13:44
secretlondonramvi: no triaging, but I seem to have posted 5 today..13:44
ramvi:)13:44
james_wif you put macbook in there it will not work for people with macminis13:44
james_wthe real fix is to have the module not need to know what type of mac you are on.13:45
ramviRight. you fix? :p13:45
ramviCan I help out in any way?13:45
james_wI don't know what the module does with this information13:46
james_wI also don't know if there is anyway it could detect it.13:46
ramviI have no idea13:46
james_walso, talking to upstream, or at least googling for some discussion upstream would be a help.13:46
ramviI dont know what that means13:48
james_wI'm assuming that the requirement to specify the type of mac has been discussed with the alsa developers before.13:50
james_wso searching for those discussions and posting links to the bug report would be useful13:50
james_wand if there is no discussion then starting it would also be useful.13:50
ramviright, ok. Thanks13:51
mrooneyhappy hug day!13:52
joumetalBug 213973 is fixed. I think it was duplicate of Bug 213566. But what to do to bug 213986.13:52
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213973 in ubuntu "Wrong keyboard layout after LTS upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21397313:52
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213566 in xkeyboard-config "dapper->hardy missing files on upgrade" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21356613:52
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213986 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 804 french keyboard (dup-of: 213973)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21398613:52
mrooneydo some ubuntu updates actually not have posted changes for awhile? like in Update Manager when it says "The list of changes is not available yet.", is there actually nowhere I can find out what happened?13:55
mrooneyif I go to that package in Hardy and click changelog there is a 404, is that what update manager looks for too?13:56
james_wI'm not sure13:56
james_whttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<source package name> may have the information you want.13:56
PiciI always use aptitude with apt-listchanges installed.13:57
affluxmorning14:22
pedro_morning afflux14:23
pedro_are you ready to squash some bugs ? :-)14:23
affluxyay14:23
pranahappy bug day14:23
pedro_today is compiz hug day https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/2008041014:23
pedro_prana: to you too!14:23
Polohi, i'm new here, so what can I do ?14:25
pranai need a little help closing out bug 213308: it looks like there's a certain WD HD configuration that is not recognized by the -14 and -15 kernels that causes boot to fail, but there's a hardware workaround.  Should that regression be fixed?14:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213308 in linux "Update from 2.6.24-12 to -14 or -15 results in ata SRST failed (errno=-16)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21330814:26
james_wPolo: welcome14:26
james_wtoday is a Hug Day, so you could help out with triaging the bugs listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/2008041014:26
Polook14:26
james_wfeel free to ask here if you need any advice on anything.14:26
pranaif you haven't looked at the bug before, it has some non-related comments so just read the stuff from me and the original reporter.14:27
pranai could mark it confirmed and assign it to the kernel team, let them sort it out?14:28
james_wprana: I'm not sure what to do there.14:31
affluxuh14:32
affluxthe first two bugs I just checked were a.) already touched and b.) in the latest package in hardy, and someone set it to incomplete with "does it still exist?"14:33
affluxI don't believe this is the correct behaviour for crashreports in current hardy packages.14:33
affluxbtw. I'm starting a bughelper run on moveInitiate (most crashers with updateWindowAttributes), I see a lot of them in the list.14:35
PoloI'm looking bug 147230, and for me it's not a bug, and I can use easily my touchpad to switch workspace.14:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 147230 in compiz "Workspace switching via touchpad works badly" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14723014:37
Poloshould I close the bug ?14:37
pranajames_w: the  kernel triage helper for thursday isn't online unfortunately.14:37
james_wprana: for thursday?14:37
jeromegPolo: it's not because it works for you that it works for everybody14:37
james_wthey have a nominated person for each day?14:37
affluxPolo: no, rather ask for testing in hardy heron. There is a useful stock reply on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses, I think under the section "needs testing in a developement release"14:38
james_wIt might also be an input bug rather than a compiz one.14:39
pranajames_w: yes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies see triage days14:48
james_wprana: thanks, I didn't know that14:50
james_wprana: you could try -kernel14:50
pranajames_w: oh, good idea, thx.14:50
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james_wDoes anyone have an audigy2 sound card?14:52
thekornwow, it's hug-day!14:58
thekornhi all :)14:58
affluxhi thekorn15:00
thekorncan somebody please stop sourcercito ;)15:00
thekornhey afflux15:00
affluxaaaaaaaargh15:01
affluxsomeone is triaging the same bugs that I do15:01
affluxoh. It was apport's fault ;)15:02
Iulianthekorn: That's impossible. :)15:03
affluxbug 20686615:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 206866 in compiz "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in updateWindowAttributes()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20686615:03
affluxnevermind, just need the short url15:03
qensehello15:22
affluxmorning qense, happy compiz hug day :)15:23
qensethx, you too :)15:23
pedro_haha nice detail15:34
pedro_triager "Apport :-)"15:35
affluxthat was me15:35
affluxapport seems to have marked some bugs as duplicates after the list was created, and I thought it would be best to show who triaged them ;)15:36
affluxalso I hope it's okay I added myself as the triager for two bugs because I did some duplicate checking and moving to them after sourcercito triaged them15:37
sourcercitoafflux, mark them as your, since you did a more extensive check of those bugs ;)15:37
sourcercitos/your/yours/g15:38
pedro_yeah is ok, mark it as yours15:38
affluxokay, as you wish ;)15:38
affluxwow. Changing the "window menu" binding in ccsm ("general options") to "disabled" has severe consequences: simple left click does not work anymore.15:42
affluxeither alt+click or win+click was a "normal" click after that change15:42
affluxchanging it back to "alt+mouse3" reverted the behavior back to normal15:43
afflux(this is one issue explained in bug 207065)15:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 207065 in compiz "Bad Compiz Bindings Bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20706515:43
afflux*note to myself: check patches added in the debian package which are not from upstream, before forwarding bugs to upstream.16:05
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affluxshould I mark bug 209216 as wontfix?16:18
ubotuLaunchpad bug 209216 in compiz "Attempted to unregister path (path[0] = org path[1] = freedesktop) which isn't registered" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20921616:19
pedro_afflux: better ask mvo about it16:22
pedro_ahoj andre16:22
andrehola pedro16:22
affluxpedro_: okay, will do in a minute, when he finished my other question :P16:23
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mvoafflux: I think it should be reproted upstream, priority low (mostly cosmetic)17:52
bdmurrayHello, I just ran into a bug report that seemed like it really belonged at the idea tracker - http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com.  I was wondering if anyone else has seen bugs like that?17:55
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bdmurrayogasawara: Has the cx88 driver changed recently?  I'm looking at bug 21514418:04
ubotuLaunchpad bug 215144 in linux "2.6.24-15 boot failure due to cx88_alsa driver" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21514418:04
ogasawarabdmurray: that's probably a dup, just a sec18:04
ogasawarabdmurray: yup, see 21210018:05
ogasawarabdmurray: rtg pulled in patches already to fix it18:05
bdmurraybug 21210018:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 212100 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "Kernel Oops: NULL pointer dereference caused by hald" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21210018:05
ogasawarabdmurray: bug 212960 has the patch18:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 212960 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "Hardy: cx88 NULL pointer dereference" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21296018:06
james_wbdmurray: I've probably seen one or two18:07
bdmurrayogasawara: Okay, I'll dup it thanks18:07
bdmurrayjames_w: okay, I was wondering if adding a standard response would be worthwhile18:08
james_wit's probably good to have it on there in anticipation18:08
warren_bug 15349318:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 153493 in bzr "status gives false positives for text files with CRLF (@win32)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15349318:12
warren_wrong :p18:12
warren_bug 153943 , can someone look if he/she has the same problem?18:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 153943 in gdebi "Gdebi-kde uses massive amounts of memory!" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15394318:13
bdmurrayogasawara: is the alsa-driver task in bug 212960 valid?18:13
ubotuLaunchpad bug 212960 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "Hardy: cx88 NULL pointer dereference" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21296018:13
ogasawarabdmurray: I believe so as it don't think it's been committed upstream yet18:14
bdmurrayah, okay18:15
qensehello18:16
james_whi qense18:16
greg-gso, "add-5-a-day 123456" is now "5-a-day --add 123456" ??18:30
qenseyes18:31
greg-gshall I update the wiki page then?18:32
qenseI think that would be the best :)18:32
greg-g:)18:32
james_whi all, I've never actually reported a bug with apport, can someone give me a good answer for the last comment of https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/210226 please?19:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 210226 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in rw_screen_list_outputs()" [Medium,Fix released]19:07
james_wis it possible to tell apport an existing bug report, or will it just have filed a new one for him19:07
bdmurrayjames_w: /var/crash19:08
bdmurrayIn nautilus you can double click on the crash file and apport will launch the reporting wizard19:08
james_wit sounds like he at least tried to report it.19:08
james_wI'll ask him for more information about what he did.19:09
greg-gjames_w: it will create a new bug report19:14
james_wthanks.19:15
UpayaviraDoes a compiz bug day also cover XGL? I upgraded to Hardy a couple of days ago, and it is now refusing to start up X with XGL.20:09
pmartrenSo, what is left to do in this hug day ?21:20
bdmurraypmartren: there are a few bugs that are still in the New status21:24
mario_limonciellbdmurray, ping21:36
bdmurraymario_limonciell: hello21:36
mario_limonciellhi bdmurray.  I was here at LF and the intel guys were showing off kerneloops.  you've heard of it?21:36
bdmurrayNo, I haven't.  You were there or are there?21:37
mario_limoncielli am here21:38
mario_limonciellits a daemon that runs and greps your logs in /var/log21:38
mario_limonciellfor oops's21:38
mario_limoncielland offers to submit them to kerneloops.org21:39
mario_limonciellF9 has implemented it21:39
bdmurrayoh, I think ogasawara mentioned that site21:39
mario_limonciellyeah, well it's in debian and builds cleanly in Ubuntu...21:39
mario_limonciellso if you think it'd be useful to file an FFe to get it included very last minute i think it seems like a very good tool to bring in21:40
bdmurrayYou said its a daemon?21:43
mario_limonciellyes21:43
mario_limonciellit then gives you a pop up via dbus/hal21:43
mario_limonciellsaying 'hey you crashed, want to submit it to kerneloops.org'?21:43
mario_limonciell(well more politely worded)21:44
bdmurrayI wonder if there is some way we could get oops out of LP for the site too21:44
mario_limonciellthe intel rep said that he has also used it to get oops out of mailing lists21:44
mario_limonciellso i would say that's very probable21:45
bdmurrayWhich repo did you have in mind?21:45
mario_limonciellwell it would do the most benefit in main by default, but i'm thinking it's really late for that21:46
mario_limonciellso universe would have to suffice, with recommendations to install it if you are getting errors21:46
bdmurrayright21:47
mario_limonciellbut you agree it's worthwhile to file an FFe to try to pull it through for hardy?21:48
bdmurrayDo you know if there is a way to search for specific kernel versions at that site?21:51
mario_limoncielli dont know for sure21:52
mario_limonciellit would appear that its 2.6.x and that's the only thing listed21:52
mario_limoncielloh nvm21:53
mario_limonciellyeah it shows21:53
mario_limonciellexample: http://kerneloops.org/guilty.php?guilty=set_dentry_child_flags&version=2.6.24-release&start=1605632&end=1638399&class=warn21:53
mario_limonciellthey are just organized by the bug reported rather than the kernel21:53
bdmurraymario_limonciell: I'm not certain how Hardy would benefit from it.22:00
bdmurraybut I do think it would be useful and interesting22:01
mario_limonciellwell as oops reports are submitted, it would be more beneficial to upstream seemingly22:02
mario_limonciellso as to fix for future kernels22:02
bdmurrayright, and since Hardy is at 2.6.24 and upstream is at 2.6.25 it seems it would be best if we had right when Intrepid comes out22:02
mario_limonciellwell at any time we will always be lagging behind the upstream kernel22:03
bdmurrayTrue, my thought was that it would be most useful when we were less behind though.22:05
mario_limonciellah like during interpid development22:06
bdmurrayRight!22:07
mario_limonciellokay then i won't try very hard to get it added in now22:07
bdmurrayI think it would be a good thing to have though just maybe not worth a FFe now.22:08
mario_limonciellok22:09
affluxgoing to bed now, good night!22:13
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Nafallohttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/f-spot/+bug/21092822:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 210928 in f-spot "f-spot.exe crashed with SIGSEGV on exit" [Undecided,Invalid]22:25
Nafallowhy is that invalid if it is a duplicate?22:25
bdmurrayperhaps because it has already been reported?22:35
sbarjolahi all, is there some wiki about debugging debian-installer bugs?22:47
bdmurraysbarjola: not really what are you curious about?22:48
sbarjolahow to see logs if crash?22:51
bdmurraysbarjola: ubiquity is a gui front end for debian installer so the same log files, /var/log/syslog and /var/log/partman , should be looked at22:53
sbarjolaoh, should be know it.. thanks22:55
jjesseintersting i have several times been unable to commit a bug in add-5-a-day due to it telling me it has been already committed 4 minutes ago when I just type it in the first time22:58
mrooneyis there any way to edit your own comment on a bug?23:14
bdmurraymrooney: no only the description can be edited23:14
mrooneyI said should when I should have said should not and it is very upsetting because it conveys the exact opposite of an important point I was trying to make23:14
mrooneythat will teach me to proof-read I guess :)23:14
bdmurrayYou can add another comment then. ;)23:15

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