| blueyed | In case there's another upload for -meta, please include the fixes for bug 197632 | 01:22 |
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| ubotu | Launchpad bug 197632 in linux-meta "Error in linux-image-xen package description" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197632 | 01:22 |
| tjaalton | Amaranth: actually, I've tried copying all the libs from an extracted installer, but it didn't help. So maybe the problem is somewhere else, but it's definately in our lrm | 05:41 |
| tjaalton | Amaranth: the pink-shadows bug already has a comment from me that using the installer fixes the shadows | 05:44 |
| Amaranth | ah | 05:44 |
| tjaalton | it could fix something else too.. | 05:44 |
| Amaranth | well someone else filed the bug and pointed me to it, i just set the priority and such :) | 05:44 |
| tjaalton | but dropping dh_strip might be wise anyway.. there's not much saved by it | 05:45 |
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| hti_pro | need help building kerne | 07:04 |
| hti_pro | kernel | 07:04 |
| hti_pro | when i build the package it grows to about 2GB | 07:05 |
| hti_pro | anyone awake | 07:06 |
| hti_pro | i am using the following guide: http://howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu_p2 If anyone wakes up and has an idea pm me | 07:11 |
| kraut | moin | 09:00 |
| mvo | hm, 2.6.24-15-386 does not boot on my test system (cant find the root fs), -generic does - any hints? should I file a bug? | 09:04 |
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| amitk | soren: could you have a look at what config you want for openvz | 13:04 |
| Ng | are there any more kernel rebuilds now before release? | 13:17 |
| amitk | Ng: there should be, but I am a awaiting some input from rtg or soren for the openvz failures. | 13:19 |
| Ng | amitk: thanks. I just checked shortlog and the patch I was wondering about has been reverted, so it's all good :) | 13:22 |
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| soren | amitk: Is thiss still relevant? | 14:45 |
| prana | hello; triaging bug 213308...i believe it demonstrates a regression for perhaps a very small case of hardware...should I mark it confirmed and assign it to the kernel team? | 14:52 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 213308 in linux "Update from 2.6.24-12 to -14 or -15 results in ata SRST failed (errno=-16)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213308 | 14:52 |
| prana | when you read the bug report, you can ignore everything except the comments from the original reporter and Emil Sit (me). | 14:53 |
| Ng | prana: I see you're trying to get her to mount a USB device to get some debugging info out of the busybox shell she gets left in? | 14:56 |
| Ng | prana: it should be fixed for hardy, but at least as of daily hardy images a couple of days ago, the vfat module isn't in the initrd | 14:57 |
| prana | Ng:i did try to do that though i don't think itwas successful. i found a workaround to the specific problem that was causing the boot failure on the web that seems to work. | 14:57 |
| Ng | yeah, it wasn't successful because there's no vfat module :) | 14:57 |
| amitk | soren: fixed | 14:57 |
| Ng | I hit exactly the same situation on a server, but with a CDROM throwing the SRST error | 14:58 |
| prana | Ng: so i guess we don't have a dmesg trace from what the sys looked like in the bad state. if a newer initrd includes vfat support, it might be possible to get the trace. or we could perhaps store the output on one of her ntfs partitions. | 14:58 |
| Ng | prana: there's dmesg and lspci info on the one I found | 14:58 |
| hti_pro | any idea if this bug will be fixed in hardy release https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/110636 | 14:58 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 110636 in linux-source-2.6.22 "hdparm - cannot set dma on IDE hard drive that works via pata" [Medium,Incomplete] | 14:58 |
| prana | Ng: ah, but i think those are from the -12 kernel, not the -14 or -15 kernels. | 14:58 |
| soren | amitk: Cool, thanks. | 14:59 |
| Ng | prana: I hit the problem with the beta release and with daily images from earlier this week, which should have been -15 | 14:59 |
| prana | Ng: anyway, it seems like the problem does exist so is marking it confirm and assigning to kernel team at this point reasonable? or would kernel team want more info first? | 14:59 |
| Ng | prna: it's Bug #210200 | 14:59 |
| Ng | pass | 14:59 |
| Ng | I'm not on the kernel team :) | 14:59 |
| prana | hm. ok, gotta rnu for a bit. will check back later. | 15:00 |
| hti_pro | or is there a kernel I can switch too that didn't have the prob | 15:00 |
| amitk | BenC: I've got classmate suspending with 2.6.24.2 + a patch but not with ubuntu tree + patch. This is going to require some time to bisect/debug. How long do I have? | 15:01 |
| hti_pro | nothin on #110636??? | 15:05 |
| BenC | amitk: we're under freeze now, so you are very limited | 15:05 |
| BenC | amitk: likely wont make RC | 15:06 |
| amitk | BenC: i meant after rc | 15:06 |
| Ng | rtg: any idea what could be causing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/215102? | 15:11 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 215102 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "switching from wireless to wired causes wireless confusion" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:11 |
| Ng | I'm moderately sure I've not seen that before, but I don't switch between the two very much without suspending because I'm going home, and suspend means unloading the modules | 15:13 |
| rtg | Ng: when you do that, is the wireless interface (probably wlan0) UP or DOWN ? | 15:13 |
| * Ng plugs back into wired to test | 15:14 | |
| Ng | rtg: UP | 15:15 |
| rtg | Ng: I assume this is a WPA enabled AP in the office? | 15:15 |
| Ng | wlan0 and wmaster0 are up, although there's no IPs and iwconfig suggests it's not on an ESSID, but is on an AP | 15:15 |
| Ng | yeah | 15:16 |
| rtg | Ng: OK, that is likely the cause. Please add that to the LP report and I'll forward it to Rolla. | 15:16 |
| Ng | k | 15:16 |
| BenC | rtg: I saw you on a linux.com report from the conference | 15:17 |
| rtg | Ng: I think NetworkManager should down the interface. | 15:17 |
| BenC | rtg: you were standing in the background talking to someone during the entire video | 15:17 |
| Ng | rtg: I kinda agree, or at least do iwconfig ap off | 15:17 |
| rtg | BenC: just by showing up :) | 15:17 |
| rtg | Ng: you could test the theory by DOWN'in the interface. | 15:17 |
| Ng | rtg: ok, will cycle again to test that shortly, I just tested iwconfig ap off and that's stopped the syslog messages | 15:18 |
| Ng | rtg: looks like ifconfig wlan0 down doesn't completely stop it | 15:21 |
| Ng | all added as comments | 15:21 |
| rtg | Ng: thanks. Maybe you should bug asac as well? | 15:22 |
| Ng | yeah, that was my next move :) | 15:22 |
| BenC | So was the openvz ftbfs fixed in 16.30 as well? | 16:03 |
| amitk | BenC: yes | 16:05 |
| BenC | commit cd5576d74945916aa88a0476fe07a059b2f24ceb | 16:06 |
| BenC | Author: Tim Gardner <tim.gardner@canonical.com> | 16:06 |
| BenC | Date: Thu Apr 10 06:24:48 2008 -0600 | 16:06 |
| BenC | UBUNTU: Accidentally copied amd64 config over i386 | 16:06 |
| BenC | Ignore: yes | 16:06 |
| BenC | 16:06 | |
| BenC | Really fix openvz configs for virtio. | 16:06 |
| BenC | Signed-off-by: Tim Gardner <tim.gardner@canonical.com> | 16:06 |
| BenC | just wondering why the commit was ignored...would be useful info for the changelog | 16:06 |
| xivulon | cking hi | 16:08 |
| cking | xivulon: hi there | 16:08 |
| xivulon | thanks a lot for your help really appreciated | 16:08 |
| xivulon | added a comment to #204133 | 16:09 |
| xivulon | what is your opinion on that? | 16:09 |
| cking | just a second.. | 16:09 |
| lamont | xivulon: wondering if you can help with testing the fix for bug 206113 | 16:10 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 206113 in util-linux "Wubi install cannot create swap space (8.04 Beta) [Regression from alpha 6]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206113 | 16:10 |
| xivulon | lamont can only do that tonight (am at work now), but I cannot reproduce that bug | 16:11 |
| xivulon | can only test if it works | 16:11 |
| cking | xivulon: not sure about it. Let me ponder on it for a few minutes over a strong cup of coffee. I was up until past midnight working on this one so head is a bit fuzzy. | 16:12 |
| xivulon | cking, sure | 16:13 |
| lamont | xivulon: sure | 16:14 |
| lamont | I verified that mkswap works when there aren't any errors already... :-( | 16:14 |
| lamont | but more eyes would be wonderful | 16:14 |
| xivulon | lamont one potential issue wubi installations may have is that the swap file might be fragmented | 16:15 |
| xivulon | not sure about the implications of that | 16:15 |
| cking | xivulon: I need to play with the remount options and see if this works. I will keep the bug report updated with my findings | 16:15 |
| lamont | xivulon: that could possibly make for short reads, I suppose | 16:15 |
| lamont | which we should handle now | 16:15 |
| xivulon | cking as mentioned 186117 and 186114 are the related bugs in this case | 16:16 |
| cking | xivulon: perhaps a sync is required before / is remounted r/o. | 16:17 |
| xivulon | cking adding syncs shouldn't be problematic, see last comment in 186117 though | 16:17 |
| cking | will do | 16:17 |
| cking | ..ah ntfs remount r/o was broken and so the regression is not really a regression - just stops one from cutting off a branch while standing on it type of safeguard | 16:19 |
| cking | ..no way of using a memory based file system for some of this so that we can umount the ext3 fs cleanly and not have it as / ? | 16:21 |
| xivulon | do you mean we should have the remaning sysvinit in a memory fs, and unmount ext3 and host completely? | 16:26 |
| xivulon | cking I wouldn't know how to implement that in a non invasive way, I'd think that the easiest root might be to apply the patch in #186114 | 16:31 |
| xivulon | but I am not sure about the implications mentioned by Szaka in 186117 | 16:31 |
| cking | xivulon: the worst case scenario is screwing up somebody's NTFS filesystem - which is something that must be avoided. It's kind of chicken and egg here. | 16:38 |
| cking | mmmm. / is dependant on /home, and /home must not be umounted. Is the remount of / ro causing the problem or is /home being umounted? | 16:41 |
| xivulon | do you mean /host? | 16:41 |
| cking | ...oops yes /home ---> /host my mistake - need more coffee | 16:42 |
| xivulon | / is in a file inside /host. During initramfs first we mount /host, then /root then mount move /host to /root/host | 16:43 |
| xivulon | so after run-init /root -> / and /root/host -> /host | 16:44 |
| xivulon | in umountroot we make everything r/o again (/ and /host) | 16:45 |
| cking | ok.. and in umountroot what happens - does /host get umounted before / ? | 16:45 |
| xivulon | except that now /host is excluded because I was scared by szaka | 16:45 |
| xivulon | nothing is unmounted only remounted r/o | 16:45 |
| cking | OK: .. remount / ro is OK, but then /host needs umounting before shutdown. | 16:46 |
| xivulon | hmm no I do not unmount /host because that is equivalent to unmount / | 16:47 |
| cking | ..well I think remouting / is OK :-) | 16:47 |
| cking | maybe I'm missing something fundamental here, but something needs to sync and umount the NTFS filesystem (surely?) | 16:48 |
| xivulon | well in a normal installation / is never really unmounted right? | 16:49 |
| xivulon | so why is it required to unmount /host as opposed to remounting it ro? | 16:49 |
| cking | ..yes but / is not normally loop'd back. | 16:50 |
| xivulon | cking I do not think it is possible to unmount /host, at most you can remount /host and / r/o and then reboot | 16:50 |
| xivulon | unless you use a memory fs | 16:51 |
| cking | I could be wrong here, but I believe one needs to flush the ext3 file back to the ntfs filesystem otherwise one will see / getting corrupted. The blocks are still in memory and need to be written back before the ntfs filesystem is unounted | 16:52 |
| cking | unounted --> umounted | 16:52 |
| cking | ..the alternative is, as you say, use a memory fs. | 16:52 |
| xivulon | making / (ext3) ro + sync would not ensure that? | 16:53 |
| xivulon | and then making /host ro + sync | 16:53 |
| cking | xivulon: I think making / (ext3) ro + sync may be enough.. but I am now 5% worried it may not be enough for a looped back file on ntfs - I've never toyed around with this before. | 16:56 |
| cking | xivulon: It's worth tinkering with anyway. I think making sure the ext3 file on the ntfs partition is written back is more important than any of the vm dirty page hacks | 16:57 |
| xivulon | absolutely | 16:58 |
| xivulon | you can emulate without XP, by creating an ntfs partition and putting a file conating ext3 / | 16:58 |
| xivulon | then add grub and boot using the ROOT=/dev/sdX LOOP=/path/to/loopfile arg | 16:59 |
| cking | xivulon: perhaps you can write these notes in the bug report as a reference for anyone else facing this problem in the future. | 17:00 |
| xivulon | that is in lower-case | 17:00 |
| xivulon | will do | 17:00 |
| cking | ..indeed. I've faked up some of that today and realised that one can umount the ntfs /host with the / still busy - hence screwing up / good and proper. | 17:01 |
| xivulon | you mean by manually unmounting /host or when rebooting? in the latter case I'd expect / to be ro reducing risks | 17:02 |
| cking | ...manually forced umount of /host which made me wonder what was happening in the real reboot scenario. | 17:03 |
| cking | ..that is, it made me wonder if the loop mounted / was being screwed up because the blocks in the buffer cache were not being written back to /host when the system shut down. | 17:04 |
| cking | xivulon: I need to go in 5 mins or so.. I have an somebody picking me up to fly some model planes.. | 17:05 |
| houdini | I've got what I think is a bug in the x64 builds of Ubuntu 7.10 and 8.4, but I'd like some help making sure it's not just me. anyone willing to help for a few minutes? | 17:05 |
| xivulon | cking sure | 17:05 |
| xivulon | umounting host manually though will create problems | 17:05 |
| xivulon | at the moment we have an obfuscation method | 17:06 |
| houdini | the bug reporting guidelines suggest filing it as a kernel bug, so that's why I'm here | 17:06 |
| xivulon | not in /media not in fstab only visible in /proc/mounts | 17:06 |
| cking | xivulon: is that enough to work on though? Do you think it helps enough to maybe get a little further? | 17:06 |
| xivulon | yes ntfs + nested root file + grub is enough | 17:06 |
| xivulon | for testing | 17:07 |
| cking | OK. keep us posted! :-) | 17:07 |
| cking | xivulon: I'm especially keen to know if one can actually get rid of the vm dirty hacks if the umount can be sorted out | 17:07 |
| cking | ..anyway. I need to go. | 17:08 |
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| blueyed | linux-server triggers the nvidia black window bug for me. Is this a bug with package "linux" or "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24"? The different kernel config settings should be this: http://pastebin.com/m89666bc (no problems with linux-generic) | 18:53 |
| blueyed | (using nvidia-glx-new) | 18:53 |
| blueyed | Might be bug 214836 | 19:44 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 214836 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "lrm incorrectly installs nvidia-glx-new" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214836 | 19:44 |
| rtg | tjaalton: I finally have a kernel for -16. Can you upload LRM? | 20:14 |
| tjaalton | rtg: sure, I'll do a couple of fixes too. stripping fglrx/nvidia seems to be pointless, since there's not much space saved and it could cause issues | 20:33 |
| rtg | tjaalton: be very conservative, 'cause this is about the last upload for Hardy. | 20:34 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 20:34 |
| tjaalton | haven't yet found out why the lrm version of nv_new is broken compared to installing it by hand.. | 20:34 |
| tjaalton | rtg: of course :) | 20:35 |
| rtg | tjaalton: thanks. | 20:37 |
| tjaalton | hmm, shouldn't envy be in universe? | 20:37 |
| tjaalton | I mean, it's not in the archive | 20:38 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: not yet but it should be there soon | 20:39 |
| tseliot | in the meantime you can use my repository to install it: | 20:40 |
| tseliot | http://albertomilone.com/wordpress/?p=185 | 20:40 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: ah right. does it use the upstream installer scripts? | 20:40 |
| tjaalton | ok, I'll just try it out later today | 20:40 |
| tjaalton | ..to find out if the pink-shadows issue is fixed with it | 20:40 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: it uses a customised version of the l-r-m with DKMS, CUDA, etc. | 20:41 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: improvements which we can talk about in Prague | 20:42 |
| tjaalton | yeah | 20:42 |
| Nafallo | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/win 30 | 21:08 |
| Nafallo | oops | 21:08 |
| xivulon | Hi all, have a question | 21:34 |
| xivulon | in a nested filesystem (loopfile) when I mount it with the sync option how does it work exactly? | 21:35 |
| xivulon | I mean if set sync for the nested filesystem does that also apply to the host filesystem? | 21:35 |
| xivulon | so that the data actually hits the metal? | 21:36 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: how do I make sure that I'm using the envyng-version of the kernel module? | 22:39 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: if nvidia-new-kernel-source is installed then EnvyNG's module will be loaded. | 23:36 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: where does it load the module from? | 23:38 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: /sbin/lrm-video makes sure that EnvyNG's module is loaded | 23:39 |
| tjaalton | I mean where can I find the module :) | 23:39 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: it's in /lib/modules/$kernel/updates/dkms/ | 23:41 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: it's the module which was built and installed by DKMS | 23:41 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: problems? | 23:41 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: no, I just wanted to see where it came from | 23:42 |
| JanC | DKMS = the Dell tool? | 23:43 |
| tseliot | JanC: yep | 23:43 |
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