=== danielm_ is now known as danielm [01:14] mok0: Ack'ed by me. === danielm_ is now known as danielm [01:27] You can't use `macro parameter character #' in horizontal mode. [01:28] haha. for some reason that LaTeX error hit my funny bone [01:28] it sounds so absurdly phrased === zakame_ is now known as zakame === hexmode` is now known as hexmode [01:40] Would a motu who has a minute please do a no change upload of cyrus-sasl2-heimdal. It won't work if it doesn't have the exact same version/revision as cyrus-sasl2 [01:43] ScottK: can i do it? [02:06] Heya gang [02:21] nxvl: You could prepare a debdiff, but it's just got a changelog entry, so it's fairly pointless. [02:21] bddebian: If you have a minute (and you're the most recent motu to talk in the channel) would you please do a no change upload of cyrus-sasl2-heimdal. It won't work if it doesn't have the exact same version/revision as cyrus-sasl2 [02:23] From Debian? [02:27] No, from ours. [02:27] Just bump the revision to match cyrus-sasl2 [02:27] bddebian: [02:27] ^^ [02:27] Ohhh [02:27] Thanks [02:31] Uhm, aren't they both already -18ubuntu1 ? [02:39] No. ubuntu2 just got uploaded. [02:40] bddebian: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/cyrus-sasl2/2.1.22.dfsg1-18ubuntu2 [02:40] Ah, OK [02:41] hi all [02:41] Hi [02:41] can I get somebody to look at doing the SRU for flashplugin-nonfree for dapper and Feisty? [02:41] bddebian: Thanks. My youngest brother is getting married on Saturday and we're flying out early tomorrow, so I'm kind of out of bandwidth in my brain just now. [02:42] Heya LaserJock [02:42] LaserJock: nxvl was looking for something to do. He'd need sponsoring though [02:52] ScottK: btw, thanks for approving the matplotlib FFe, I use it in my research [03:08] ScottK: i agree with you, w.r.t envy and the # of updates. [03:08] cant 'believe i didn't think o fit before [03:09] RAOF: it won't open any oo.o (writer, and calc, at least), document. [03:13] RAOF: what won't? [03:13] grr, that was for Hobbsee [03:14] LaserJock: gnome-do [03:20] Is anyone around who could help me sanity check my solution to a bug? [03:20] it's on audacity and is bug #193593 [03:20] Launchpad bug 193593 in audacity "Audacity effects missing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/193593 [03:31] ScottK: Uploaded btw [04:09] bddebian: Thanks. [04:12] Hobbsee: Another thought I have is that approving that FFe (Envy) is money in the bank for the least FOSS oriented video card maker. I don't like encouraging them. [04:13] well, i see the point of the video card.s [04:14] but its' like granting a uvfe for cheese in gutsy or the easycryt stuff - there's a package every week, afair [04:16] Yeah. I think he was blogging about even more updates today. [04:21] Hobbsee: Would you please ack/approve the matplotlib FFe - LaserJock wants it. [04:25] ScottK: do i need to view the bug first? [04:31] Wouldn't hurt [04:32] * ScottK gets the bug [04:33] Hobbsee: Bug 195772 [04:33] Launchpad bug 195772 in matplotlib "please upgrade python-matplotlib to version later than 0.90.1" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195772 [04:33] :) [04:38] lol ouch bug 214898 [04:38] Launchpad bug 214898 in ubuntu "latest batch of updates deleted all user docs, pics, music and vids?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214898 [04:38] eek [04:43] hmm [04:43] is it safe to ask for someone's whole /var/log directory in a tar.gz? [04:43] Hobbsee: Hm... works here (with non-trunk crazy-devel build). [04:44] i dont suppose any personal info could be in there? [04:44] xtknight, I wouldn't be so sure of that. [04:44] Hobbsee: ...and works with the Universe version, too. What are you actually trying to do, again? :) [04:44] i'd love to help this poor guy i just dont know how [04:46] RAOF: ctrl+space, type in name. [04:47] Hobbsee: As in: ctrl+space name_of_document, or ctrl+space openoffice.org writer? [04:48] Hobbsee: Because either one WorksForMe(tm) [04:53] RAOF: the former. [04:55] Hobbsee: Is this because name_of_document isn't coming up as an item? It needs to be somewhere fairly specific to be indexed, IIRC. [05:00] it's coming up as an item. it's in ~ [05:00] Hm. [05:00] What does it do when you press enter? It brings up a nautilus window showing ~, I bet. [05:02] no, it does nothing [05:05] Hobbsee: Can you take a screenshot? Urgh! What's in the second pane of Do? [05:17] * StevenK kicks printers [05:18] * secretlondon *hates* soundtouch [05:19] RAOF: I wonder if Noveau won't corrupt the off-screen 2D buffer if X is restarted and the blob isn't unloaded. [05:50] RAOF: Re vlc from yesterday, I didn't quite understand what you were getting at. The macro/variable that were were talking about, and somethign to do with it being from algorithm. Algorithm is included, and they also have 'using namespace std;' [06:03] Hello, is it appropriate to use dh_icons in an icon theme package ? === asac_ is now known as asac [06:12] ScottK: ack completely forgot to tell you, sourceful backport of wine .59 is fine [06:12] * jdong hugs tomboy for that one [06:13] jdong: Debdiff me in about the next 10 minutes or wait a week. [06:13] ScottK: rofl [06:13] Not kidding [06:14] ScottK: mmmkay I'll try speed crackporting! [06:14] I like that term :) [06:15] Actually it's a little longer because my 16 year old is using the laptop to load her iPod. [06:15] tell her to take longer! break libgpod! [06:18] I confess it's on Windows. iTunes is the one thing they are still allowed to use it for. [06:18] Ewww! [06:18] gasp :D [06:18] Bad ScottK [06:18] I have high hopes that'll change. [06:18] It's not like I use it. [06:18] ScottK: Try again with Hardy, I [06:18] ScottK: Try again with Hardy, I'd suggest [06:18] I will. [06:18] Just haven't had time. [06:19] yeah Apple tries very hard to be a prick to the rest of the the world with their devices :) [06:19] * jdong waits for wine to debdiff [06:21] ScottK: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13309179/debdiff [06:25] jdong: Thanks. [06:26] ScottK: thank *you* :) [06:26] guys I just impulsively ordered a N800 [06:26] will I be happy with that purchase? :) [06:26] ScottK: did you sleep sometimes? [06:27] * nxvl is starting to think that ScottK is an IA bot [06:27] :P [06:27] jdong: Only if you don't want a keyboard or GPS [06:27] Yes. [06:28] nxvl: is it that you are starting to think that makes ScottK an AI bot? [06:29] jdong: hes always here [06:29] StevenK: (1) I think I can live without a keyboard , compared to dishing out for the $400 one (2) too bad a GPS can't navigate MIT buildings. Because that's what I really need a GPS for [06:29] "proceed to.. next hallway... and... veer left... through the second door" [06:29] "checking route for traffic..." :D [06:40] Three cheers for bulletproof X. [06:48] TheMuso: Oh, right. So the most obvious possibility is excluded. Sorry, I don't have anything more :/ [06:48] StevenK: nouveau won't start X if the blob's kernel module isn't unloaded. I can, however, unload the blob's kernel module then start X with nouveau just fine. [06:49] good morning [06:49] Morning dholbach [06:50] hiya cody-somerville [06:50] :) [06:50] Heya dholbach, cody-somerville. [06:50] jdong: Uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Ubuntu ;-) [06:50] Let's gett this greeting snowball rolling! [06:51] ScottK: why thank you ;-) [06:51] what's the "diff splash" patch system [06:51] xtknight: Reference? [06:51] RAOF, what-patch [06:51] on source pakage elinks [06:51] oh oh! I know! One clucks in defiance and the other... [06:51] or is that the wrong punchline? [06:52] Hm. Probably just inline patching in the diff.gz. [06:52] i see a debian/patches/ folder with .diff files [06:52] but i'm not sure what to use to "push" them all so i can make a new one [06:52] hi RAOF [06:53] xtknight: What's in debian/rules? That'd be a fallback herustic :) [06:54] yeah except im clueless at reading rules but here it is http://rafb.net/p/lwIYmE66.html [06:54] it just looks like an unmanaged patch system [06:54] sleezy. tell me why would someone even take the time to write something like that when they could use dpatch? [06:55] * xtknight must be missing something, but it wouldn't be a first time [06:56] xtknight: Because they didn't know about dpatch? Because they thought they could do it easier? I mean, dpatch requires a whole lot of effort :) [06:56] it does? [06:57] alright i guess i must have it much easier then... my dpatch-edit-patch seems to work graet for me, maybe they have to do something a lot harder :o [06:58] xtknight: but you have to include a .make, and add 2 dependencies to debian/rules targets..... [06:58] xtknight: all of which time could be spent writing a recursive scheme patchsystem! [06:59] Yeah, I was being silly. [07:00] Because they made the package before dpatch-edit-patch was written? [07:01] hehe [07:01] pfft dpatch-edit-patch always existed. It's just a story made up to scare the little ones. [07:01] like Redhat 7. [07:01] RAOF: Ah, that wasn't really the question. [07:02] jdong: RedHat 7.0, even [07:02] StevenK: silly me, how could I forget the big-Oh at the end? [07:03] (that's what she *cough* nvm) [07:08] Good morning [07:08] rule #3 of #ubuntu-motu: When someone comes in to say good morning, it's probably bedtime. [07:08] StevenK: What was the question? :) [07:09] Hello, is it appropriate to use dh_icons for an icon themes package ? [07:10] RAOF: So, with the blob, if I restart X without unloading it, it looks fine, except the 2d off-screen buffer is stuffed, and things like Xv don't show the real content. [07:10] StevenK: That's cool! [07:11] It so isn't. [07:11] Yeah, fair crack of the whip. [07:11] Well, there's always the 'try nouveau' approach. [07:12] Which means no WoW, I suspect :-) [07:13] Not necessarily! [07:13] Although, if you'd like fast, not-horribly-glitchy rendering, yes :(. [07:14] Yay for 3D driver programming by guesswork [07:14] Oh, that's software mesa I'm talking about :) [07:15] WoW dies with a shader error with the nv4x gallium driver :) [07:15] Heh [07:17] But this might actually be an old mesa bug, rather than a problem with nouveau per se. [07:18] And it's not actually 3d driver programming by guesswork; they pretty much know how the thing works. Yay renouveau! [07:19] RAOF: Which bit is taking time, then? [07:19] http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/hardy/elinks [07:19] um this should be Core Devs not MOTU Devs for Maintainer right? [07:21] !info elinks [07:21] StevenK: Developer time, apparently. There aren't actually that many devs working on nouveau who understand gallium (which is apparently really hard without an intimate knowledge of 3d hardware). [07:22] <\sh> moins [07:47] !info elinks [07:48] elinks (source: elinks): advanced text-mode WWW browser. In component main, is optional. Version 0.11.1-1.5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 611 kB, installed size 3340 kB [07:59] <\sh> could be that it was in universe before it was promoted to main [07:59] <\sh> oh no... [08:49] dholbach: #203571 [08:51] freeflying: hello.... how can I help you? [08:51] dholbach: did u sponsor this upload? I consider re-opening it, the bug reporter hasn't provide a patch [08:51] freeflying: is it about the 0.5.23? if so, I'm in touch with Arne abou it [08:52] I sponsored 0.4.23-1ubuntu2 (see comment 9) [08:52] dholbach: yes, the package is not nice :) [08:53] freeflying: it'd be better to mention that on the bug report [08:53] I'll subscribe to it [08:53] dholbach: the bug reporter amend file in upstream directly [08:55] freeflying: better to mention that on the bug report - I merely sponsored it, but have no means of checking if the result is actually OK - I trust Arne to figure it out [08:59] dholbach: as to this bug itself, we'd discuss with arne firstly, xfonts-wqy is in main too, and xfonts-wqy provide the bitmap fonts [09:00] freeflying: can you let Arne know what the problem is - once you figure out the solution together, I can help to get it sponsored [09:02] dholbach: arne is familiar with it, and I will discuss with him this weekend, or sometime tomorrow :), I prefer to sync 0.5.23 from sid firstly [09:02] freeflying: thanks for working on it - once you've come to a decision together, I can see it gets done [09:04] dholbach: u r welcome, and I re-open this bug [10:16] Um. [10:16] Wow. [10:16] Why is Wine autorunning Windows executables that are got from Firefox? [10:17] No questions asked? [10:18] Gotta copy Windows, you know. [10:20] you should be able to tell Firefox not to open those things automatically. [11:48] Zzzz [11:49] If anybody from FFE team is online, please give 2nd ack for bug 195772 [11:49] Launchpad bug 195772 in matplotlib "please upgrade python-matplotlib to version later than 0.90.1" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195772 [11:52] <\sh> Fujitsu, firefox does ask questions, and it doesn't ask if you told ff to not ask questions anymore while opening apps [11:52] <\sh> Fujitsu, this is normal, and a layer 8 problem :)= [11:53] <\sh> wolfger, it's a user problem...user too lazy error [12:02] Heya [12:48] * Hobbsee finally gets home [12:48] RAOF: so, it's playing nice now. NFI why. [13:03] * mok0 pokes Hobbsee with a stick for beating him at yesterdays 5-a-day stats [13:03] haha [13:04] mok0: you should do firefox today. [13:04] Hobbsee: eeek [13:04] Hobbsee: what do you have in mind? [13:06] mok0: dunno. i'm sure i'll find something. mvo wants help, too [13:06] Hello, is it appropriate to use dh_icons for an icon themes package ? [13:30] sorry to bother you guys with this, but does anyone know what package contains the std c library manpages? I need to be able to e.g. man {send,recv,printf,..whatever} [13:30] jroes: I guess it is manpages-dev [13:31] awesome! [13:31] that's probably why I never found it :) [13:31] thanks slytherin [13:45] Hey [13:45] hi RainCT [14:01] So, from today, we need mr team ack for EVERYTHING, yes? [14:02] <\sh> from the 11th on, yes [14:02] <\sh> imho the 10th is still free ;) [14:03] Ah ;-) [14:03] ScottK: shot down envyng some more. [14:03] \sh: free as in free speech or free beer. :-P [14:03] <\sh> hmm? [14:03] <\sh> slytherin, free as in "buildds are not in manual mode" ,-) [14:05] ScottK: i really can't justify a package that gets an upload at least once a week being put into a stable archive, no matter the time of the cycle that we're in... [14:05] perhaps the month of march 2 - april 2 was especially busy, but it's certainly setting precedent. [14:10] Hobbsee, getting an upload once a week? What a reyou referring to on that? [14:10] superm1: envyng [14:10] superm1: like i said, in the previous line :) [14:10] the package itself? [14:10] perhaps it's not all ng, but. [14:11] hey what did I do [14:11] oh, envy-ng ;) [14:11] * Hobbsee just checked the number of blog posts on planet ubuntu about it that definetly had a release, rather than just thanking people for help, and got 5 between march2 and april 2 [14:11] Ng: yes, that. although some people want tickets to get resolved, if you're in that frame of mind... [14:12] Ng: unless you want to be put in the repository? [14:12] Hobbsee, as per my understanding there won't be any changes necessary for Hardy once it's in? [14:12] superm1: why? [14:12] all the newer drivers come from a PPA [14:12] the package itself just grabs stuff from the PPA in a niceish fashion [14:12] Hobbsee: I have zero interest in envy, I threw all my evil hardware away ages ago ;) [14:13] Ng: i've only dealt with evil wifi before, so i agree with you [14:13] * Hobbsee managed to sell the evil card to dad. [14:13] (yay for marvell) [14:13] Hobbsee: that's not nice :) [14:13] lu mais ne l'étant pas pour moi je sollicite votre aide sur ce sujet [14:13] Actuellement mon système démarre mais est bloqué environ 5 minutes pendant la séquence du boot. [14:13] Je ne sais pas comment y remédier. [14:13] jeromeg: he's a 'doze user. [14:14] jeromeg: ich nicht sprecke french. [14:14] I kept my dad away from windows right form start to avoid troubleshooting headache [14:14] slytherin: he started there, so... [14:14] maybe one day. but i dobut it [14:14] Hobbsee: oh right, in that case 'he deserved it' :) [14:14] sorry buggy mouse breaking everything [14:14] cprov: exactly :) [14:15] cprov: funny thing is, it's somewhat patchy on 'doze too. [14:15] it actually behaves better on a stable version of ubuntu, if you don't use the netgear drivers for it [14:16] then, it can be only justified by his bad karma ;) [14:17] Hobbsee: envyng won't need to be updated once a week. If there are bugs (reported by users) I'll fix them. That's all [14:17] tseliot: oh, you are here. [14:30] LaserJock: question for you. [14:30] protonchris: ping [14:38] murrayc_: What's up? [14:38] protonchris: I just did yet another glom tarball release, in case you feel like packaging it. [14:39] murrayc_: does it fix any nasty bugs? [14:40] protonchris: At least one crash. [14:40] protonchris: And it should make apport work with glom again, so we can more easily solve future crashes. [14:41] dholbach: ping [14:41] RainCT: pong [14:42] dholbach: uhm.. nevermind. wanted to ask you something but just found it out myself :) [14:42] ok super :) [14:43] murrayc_: I'll take a look tomorrow, but I suspect that we will need to wait until after the hardy release. [14:43] protonchris: That would be fine. I just hope it doesn't have to wait for hardy+1. === Sebast1an is now known as Sebastian === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [15:07] mok0: aroune? [15:07] *around [15:18] heya [15:28] heya dendrobates [15:29] emgent: hi [15:29] cody-somerville: i fixed and tested bug #190020 in gutsy Xubuntu box, work fine. [15:29] Launchpad bug 190020 in xfce4-panel "Stack-based buffer overflow" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190020 [15:30] sebner: yo! [15:49] mok0: what about the libmail-listdetector-perl? Just too slowly before final freeze started? [15:49] sebner: bug no. ? [15:49] * mok0 wants an url to click :-) [15:52] Zzzzz [15:54] mok0: bug #212512 [15:54] Launchpad bug 212512 in libmail-listdetector-perl "Please sync libmail-listdetector-perl 1.01+dfsg-3 from Debian(Unstable)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212512 [15:54] sebner: you don't have 2 acks for this [15:55] mok0: ehm. Because of final freeze? because this is a pure sync [15:55] sebner: last comment is ScottK asking for testing [15:56] mok0: true but you subscribed motu-release where it shouldn't be necessary (if it was before final freeze) [15:57] sebner: Since you put the changelog there, I assumed it was because you were looking for ACKs === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville [15:58] mok0: wth? Also for *normal* syncs you should post the changelog xD and if you can see it's not a new upstream version [15:59] sebner: I am sorry if I messed it up [16:00] sebner: I can see it's mostly packaging that has been modified [16:00] mok0: hmm np :P It's just that I have to satisfy Scottie now ^^ [16:00] sebner: ... and he is travelling for a week. [16:01] sebner: perhaps you can get someone else from m-r to take a look, I don't dare touch it as long as they're subscribed :-) [16:01] mok0: ^^. however. we are in final freeze so I suppose I have to provide additional infos? [16:01] mok0: you make your like pretty easy ^^ [16:01] *life [16:01] sebner: I was told the freeze is from 11. [16:01] mok0: then ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK [16:02] sebner: I don't dare touch it as long as m-r is subscribed [16:02] sebner: perhaps some older MOTU :-D [16:02] mok0: it's your fault that they are subscribed. don't forget ^^ [16:03] sebner: I know, [16:03] sebner: I'll make it up to you [16:03] mok0: hrhr. I don't care :P but I'll take care ... [16:05] sebner: I think uploads can be done as before, but now m-r have to approve _everything_ [16:06] sebner: do you have others? [16:06] mok0: 1 sync + 1 merge. both not that important [16:06] sebner: they solve bugs + no new features? [16:08] mok0: for the sync no to the first. for the merge maybe yes to the first. both no to the last xD [16:08] sebner, then the sync will have to wait [16:08] <\sh> Mez, ping [16:09] \sh - uh-oh, what've I done now [16:09] <\sh> Mez, did you eventually changed something in debian/rules for php-xdebug? [16:09] sebner: the merge will be useful [16:09] I should have. [16:09] <\sh> e.g. install to binary-indep target? [16:09] mok0: what's the habit for the sync now? Setting to invalid or something like this? [16:09] <\sh> Mez, not the -O0 change ;( [16:10] \sh, nope - the -00 was the only thing I changed on the upload [16:10] <\sh> damn....then I was the one who messed up ;) [16:10] sebner: hmm, good question. Just leave it for now, when intrepid comes along you can set it to invalid with a comment [16:10] <\sh> but I was sure I fixed it earlier :( === tb1 is now known as tbf [16:11] <\sh> of course I fixed in in ubuntu2...and wtf it was gone now [16:11] <\sh> anyways [16:11] sebner: but the merge is useful if it solves bugs; it will save us the work later [16:12] sebner: are you able to test that mail lib perl thing? [16:12] Hobbsee: still around? [16:13] sebner, what's the no. of your merge? [16:13] mok0: dunno. but definitely not today. I'll leave soon. learning for school :( [16:14] \sh : http://rafb.net/p/kNP6sW69.html <-- diff between the rules from ubuntu3 and ubuntu4 [16:14] sebner: if you can test it, there's a good chance it will make it is my guess [16:14] <\sh> Mez, na...it's not your fault :) I was sure I fixed the bug in ubuntu2 ... [16:15] \sh *hands you cookie* [16:15] no worries [16:15] * Mez waits for ubuntu5 :@P === _Czessi is now known as Czessi [16:15] <\sh> Mez, just uploaded... [16:15] mok0: as I said I don't care because there are cosmetic changes and today I really have to time for it. Merge is here bug #212766 . Though we need debwait since a dependency have to be synced before ^^ But already ACKed [16:15] Launchpad bug 212766 in rrootage "Merge rrootage 0.23a-7 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212766 [16:15] <\sh> damn...I wanted to go home already [16:15] \sh to be fair, I should have spotted that myself [16:16] sebner: cool, I'm on it [16:16] <\sh> Mez, fun part...I'lll run sbuild with -A on amd64...so I don't get it directly...I need to change that [16:16] mok0: thx [16:16] \sh, I didnt run a build seeing as it was a 1 char change ;0 [16:16] I should have - eh ? [16:16] sebner: there, it's on my list [16:17] <\sh> Mez, always :) [16:17] mok0: fine :) [16:20] <\sh> anyways..rushing home [16:20] :D [16:22] why, oh why did I touch aMule? [16:23] please remind me not to upload it in the Intrepid cycle :) [16:23] jdong: where's the best place to make a call for testing in the forums? [16:23] there's a subforum for that [16:24] http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=307 [16:25] oh, neat [16:25] thanks LaserJock [16:28] LaserJock: do I need any special status to post there? because I have none :) [16:28] I don't *think* you do, but I haven't tried it [16:28] RainCT, adblock-plus 0.7.5.4 is out upstream, will you update it ? [16:32] argh [16:33] now the tray icon doesn't work with today's tarballs [16:33] fta: yes, thanks for letting me know [16:33] RainCT, cool, thanks [16:34] RainCT, please use the bzr branch === santiago-php is now known as santiago-v === santiago-v is now known as santiago-ve === Mez is now known as Floodbot5 === Floodbot5 is now known as Mez === danielm_ is now known as danielm [18:22] Hello. It is possible to build dbus-java using openjdk. That means it can be moved to main, right? See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus-java/+bug/204704 (if I have done somthing wrong I would appresiate if you told me. I am quite new to Ubuntu) [18:22] Launchpad bug 204704 in dbus-java "dbus-java should work with IcedTea" [Undecided,New] [19:00] Hey! I've got a question. If I've got a new package I'd like to get into Ubuntu ready, should I upload to REVU now or wait until the Intrepid archives open? It's obviously too late for Hardy... [19:02] asomething: you could upload now, but it probably wouldn't be looked at until intrepid opens anyway, so it wouldn't make much difference. [19:03] ya, i figure folks are a bit busy about now =) [19:09] q. i heard that canonical had a 'program' to help company package their software for ubuntu, anybody got the name of this program ? and who i can talk to to get more info about it ? [19:13] lol: "So Bruce Schneier is the Chuck Norris of crypto?" - Seen on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/6739/ [19:14] zorglu_: you might want to look here: http://www.canonical.com/services/packaging [19:14] asomething: thanks [19:14] zorglu_: also there is http://www.canonical.com/partners/ [19:15] siretart: did you see the Bruce Schneier quotes, in the same vein as the Chuck Norris ones? [19:15] just looking and laughing at them :) [19:15] james_w: ok looking [19:17] * jdong sets his first high-priority bug in ubuntu.... [19:21] asomething: services packaging webpage doesnt give any prize. should i assume it is free of charge ? should i ask somebody else? [19:23] zorglu_: I really don't know. Any canonical employees around? [19:29] zorglu_: It's paid, I saw the prices somewhere on the site some time ago, but I can't find them now anymore :S [19:29] RainCT: ok thanks. so it will have to wait until i get funding :) [19:33] jdong: whee, nice bug, with completely symbol-less backtraces... :) [19:35] slangasek: yeah I know it's not pretty but it's important :( [19:36] to be fair, hardy is the first release to even /have/ flashplugin-nonfree for amd64... [19:36] slangasek: I'm gonna try the stupid approach and blindly rebuild it against the new xulrunner and see if that does anything :D [19:36] eh, or maybe it was in gutsy (?) [19:36] slangasek: yeah it was in gutsy but not working well [19:36] slangasek: it worked GREAT up until the upload of FF3.0b5 [19:36] * RainCT is wondering if that that Ubuntu Certified Professional thing good for anything [19:37] slangasek: it'd be a shame to lose it again [19:37] jdong: I actually haven't noticed it not working yet [19:37] jdong: 3b5 is known to be very unstable [19:37] this isn't a crash of firefox though [19:39] slangasek: no it's just a crash of the npviewer.bin that shows up in dmesg and blanks all flash applets [19:39] slangasek: it has not happened for me yet since my rebuild [19:39] oh goody [19:40] I hope I don't jinx that === cprov is now known as cprov-out [19:44] slangasek: looks promising so far, I posted a rebuilt deb so hopefully our testers can try to prove me wrong [19:47] jdong: is there any sort of reproducible test case? [19:49] slangasek: just repeatedly go back and forth between a flash and a non flash page [19:49] slangasek: i.e. youtube's homepage and google's homepage [19:49] slangasek: once in a while you will see the flash controls go grey and dmesg shows npviewer.bin crashed [19:49] apport also whines [19:50] ok [19:50] it is somewhat of a heisenbug though :) [19:51] yeah, how many times should I have to switch back and forth on average? [19:51] slangasek: often times it's immediate crash and burn for me [19:51] when's the exact daedline for freeze? [19:51] time? [19:52] I'm not seeing that [19:52] slangasek: the day I confirmed the bug it was literally every flash page did it. [19:52] xtknight: two hours ago? :) [19:52] slangasek: well you're special then :) [19:52] ah [19:52] xtknight: it's already frozen [19:52] bah slangasek is faster ;) [19:53] xtknight: do you want to do SRUs for flash on dapper of feisty? [19:54] LaserJock, dapper and edgy use flash 7 dont they? but feisty yaeh [19:54] if i can get a VM running [19:55] LaserJock, we just came across another slight flash plugin problem [19:55] Bug 213827 [19:55] Launchpad bug 213827 in flashplugin-nonfree "typo in prerm file avoids package remove" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213827 [19:55] i have a debdiff ready for this, not sure what i should do about it [19:56] it is not serious, i dont think it prevents the package from being removed [19:57] well he says it does, i dunno [19:57]