/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/04/10/#ubuntu-mythtv.txt

atlanta80I linked /usr/share/mythtv/themes/Mythbuntu/vidgallerybackg.png to /usr/share/mythtv/themes/Mythbuntu/vidbackground.png and it just took out the error about that image not loading, but gave me the same problem00:01
pucksuperm1:  re mythtv-status, awesome, thanks!00:22
free1ya mean...  I'm trying to install mythbuntu on gutsy and I'm worried that it is not recognizing my usb tuner (pinnacle pctv hd pro stick) which I'm sure according to the wiki is v4l supported00:34
free1I'm at the point where I'm supposed to configure the capture card and regardless of choice I select, 'analog v4l' 'MJPEG capture card', etc.  it is giving a prelim "failed to open" message below that00:35
free1what's really good with that"00:35
free1?00:35
free1and it is true that the Carter III is postponed till June?00:38
free1superm1:   I defer to your judgement00:40
free1paisan00:40
free1so I guess my question is the pinnacle pctv hd pro considered analog v4l or some other option for mythbuntu installation?00:55
jetsaredimanyone here have transcode experience?01:20
jetsaredimhave a video file and looking to convert it, but not sure what to set the bpp/vbit rate/etc.01:21
free1given whatever manufacturer for the capture card, how does one know which of the capture card options to select in the myth setup01:31
free1?01:31
zubwolfhi there01:36
zubwolfis it actually possible to watch iptv with mythbuntu?01:36
samson--I seem to be having difficulty with LIRC after my upgrade to 8.04 beta.  Originally I had a weekly-build feisty mythbuntu, but it also had LIRC problems (among other things with the 0.21 upgrade) so I just reinstalled from scratch with 8.04 mythbuntu.02:31
samson--LIRC starts normally, listens to /dev/lirc0, but if I run irw, it shows no output.02:31
samson--http://pastebin.com/m26d7b86602:32
samson--if I cat /dev/lirc0 I see binary data streaming when I press a button on my remote02:32
samson--if I strace -p <pid of lircd> I see lircd capturing the remote button pushes02:32
CacketteDoes the music visualizer work?02:39
samson--it did not for me when i had a fiesty weekly build, i have not tried it with 8.04 yet02:40
Cackettegoes blank until you hit 4 again?02:41
samson--it just stayed blank for me02:42
samson--i hit 6 a few times to try and shift through the available visualizations, but it did not help02:42
samson--i'll try it with 8.04 in a second, i need to scan my music library into the database02:44
Cacketteyeah, i tried hitting 6 and all it shows is Visualization: Random02:49
Cacketteand wont change visualizations02:49
samson--are you on 8.04?02:50
superm1samson--, you can try to re-record your lircd.conf02:50
superm1although its weird that the same one from 7.10 wouldnt work02:50
superm1(i'm assuming you mean weekly-gutsy builds)02:51
superm1Cackette, i've seen them working in the past, but you might need another package (which we might need to add as a recommend)02:51
superm1zubwolf, it is possible depending on your provider's implementaiton02:52
superm1jetsaredim, talk to rhpot1991 possibly02:52
samson--superm1: i think you are right re: the weekly-gutsy builds02:52
superm1free1, you might need v4l-dvb cvs/svn/hg/git checkout02:52
superm1samson--, so backup /etc/lirc/lircd.conf02:53
superm1and record another one02:53
superm1with irrecord02:53
superm1and see if you + that = more luck02:53
samson--Cackette: i just repopulated my music database and in 8.04 and my visualization just says 'blank' regardless of whether i hit 602:55
samson--superm1: thank you, i'll try it out02:55
Cackettesamson--: The visualizations are now selectable via the Setup menus and by default you won't have any selected. Navigate to Setup > Media Settings > Music Settings > Player Settings and on the third page you'll find the Edit Visualizations button where you can select which visualizations you'd like to show up as options.02:55
Cackettethe visualizations suck though,02:55
free1superm1:  and that would help in the installation pahse?02:59
superm1free1, well if your card isn't detected by the v4l-dvb in ubuntu03:02
superm1that's the solution03:02
samson--superm1: indeed irrecord helped, thanks03:05
superm1great03:06
superm1please file a bug with both lircd.conf's03:06
superm1and we can see what's up that caused it hopefully03:06
samson--Cackette: awesome, that worked, i like that feature, now I dont have to cycle through viz's that i dont care about03:07
samson--superm1: file under 8.04?03:08
superm1samson--, just against the lirc package03:10
=== dgtl_ is now known as zubwolf
zubwolfsuperm1, my provider uses udp multicast stream with no encrytion04:16
zubwolfcan i use stable or should i use the testing edition?04:18
superm1zubwolf, i would recommend you use 8.0404:19
superm1because of improvements to the IP recorder04:19
superm1but seemingly you should be able to record if there is really no enc and it's multicast udp04:19
zubwolfsuperm1, this is how the url looks like when i open up tv channels with vlc: udp://@239.35.129.11:1000004:21
zubwolfand it works fine04:21
superm1zubwolf, i'm not familiar with the IP recorder directly myself, but that sounds like it should be functional for how it works04:22
superm1you can double check with people in #mythtv-users in case04:22
zubwolfsuperm1, okay, thx for hint!04:23
stimohey everybody06:15
stimosomebody got some time to help>?06:15
stimojust figuring out wich hw ill be using for my myth backend06:16
tgm4883_laptop!ask | stimo06:16
tgm4883_laptopbah, stupid ubotu06:16
stimolol06:17
stimowell the idea was of building a pc with mythbuntu that could also serve as nas, ftp, irc server06:18
stimojust small home use   and ftp and irc   to chat and transfer some files between friend06:19
stimo*friends06:19
stimogiven that this box will be running 24/7  i wanted a cpu with pretty low usage   so i think i'm gonna go for the celeron 44006:21
stimou guys got a better idea?06:21
stimoi can always use a mobile cpu  but they are kinda pricy06:22
tgm4883_laptopare you using it as a pvr?06:22
stimoyea that would be the idea    normal cable prv   with a hauppeage pvr-150  i think06:23
tgm4883_laptopceleron 440 is kinda low i would think06:23
stimowell its only for recording with the decoder already on the pvr card06:24
tgm4883_laptopare you using it for playback?06:25
stimo2Ghz should do  no?06:25
tgm4883_laptoptake a look at the system requirements on mythbuntu.org06:25
stimonope06:25
stimomin 1Ghz   recomended 2Ghz06:25
stimoand the celeron 440 only uses 35 watt  so that a pretty nice thing06:27
stimobackend server that runs mythtv to record some stuff,  running a irc and ftp  and also using it as a nas06:29
ooloncolluphidstimo, this link is a bit long in the tooth but might be along the lines of what you are looking for: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/10/16/building_a_low-power_home_theater_pc_system/06:39
stimothats all front end there06:52
stimoi'm talking server that comes in a cabinet , low power with ftp server, nas, irc server and pvr   it will not come even near to a tv lol06:53
stimobut i'll read it06:54
stimomight learn something06:54
stimook thats was pretty useless07:26
Pasteurizedhi all08:31
ooloncolluphidhowdy, I'm having problems with music cutting out for about 10 seconds to over a minute when playing music using Mythbuntu 7.1016:23
ooloncolluphidI believe it is an issue with mplayer as I have the same symptoms when playing the same files outside of mythtv.16:24
ooloncolluphidI checked the buffer settings im mythtv and they are ok16:24
ooloncolluphidA friend said that he heard it was a known issue with mplayer, but didn't have any suggested fix or work around.16:27
tgm4883_laptopcomputer specs16:28
ooloncolluphidit is a 2.5GHZ AMD64 w/2GB RAM16:29
ooloncolluphidIt uses an onboard nvidia sound card with the nvidia 6100 chipset16:30
tgm4883_laptophmm16:30
tgm4883_laptopinteresting16:30
tgm4883_laptopsounds a lot like my system, but mine doesn't have that issue16:30
ooloncolluphidthe audio on a video recording works fine16:31
tgm4883_laptopare the songs you are trying to play physically on the same box?16:31
ooloncolluphidyes in /var/lib/mythtv/music16:31
ooloncolluphidI Googled the heck out of the issue and couldn't find a solution16:33
tgm4883_laptopdoes the music play fine in other media players?16:34
ooloncolluphidyes16:34
ooloncolluphidis there any way to use a different player within mythtv?16:35
tgm4883_laptopsec16:37
rhpot1991_laptopdoes internal player not work for music?16:39
ooloncolluphidIt works, but cuts out for a few seconds to a minute every 3 to 10 minutes16:40
chrisorkhey there. is ist possible to chance the myth-theme from the command line? mcc crashes. frontend unusable.16:42
ooloncolluphidIf I"m using a visulazation it continues to display normally when the audio cuts out16:42
tgm4883_laptopooloncolluphid, check in general setup for anything mythmusic specific16:43
ooloncolluphidI get the same problem if I use mplayer outside of mythtv16:44
tgm4883_laptopchrisork, you could alter the db and change it there16:45
rhpot1991_laptopnot sure if it helps, but you can change the theme in mythweb settings16:45
chrisorkmythweb sounds good :) i`ll have to take a look.16:47
tgm4883_laptopooloncolluphid, have you tried updating mplayer?16:47
ooloncolluphidI have kept the system updated with the ubuntu repositories, but haven't tried anything more agressive, like svn16:49
tgm4883_laptopdo you have backports enabled?16:50
chrisorkmmh. "The theme (glass-wide) is missing a themeinfo.xml file"16:52
tgm4883_laptopchrisork, are you on gutsy or hardy16:52
chrisorkhardy...16:52
ooloncolluphidtgm4883_laptop, how do I check that?16:53
tgm4883_laptopopen up /etc/apt/sources.list and see if one of the repos is ubuntu-backports.  You can pastebin it if you want16:54
ooloncolluphidgutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse16:56
tgm4883_laptopk16:56
ooloncolluphid gutsy-backports main restricted universe multiverse16:56
tgm4883_laptopooloncolluphid, i've run out of options here.  You can try #ubuntu and see if they can fix the problem with mplayer (which should fix mythtv problem) or perhaps there is an mplayer channel16:57
ooloncolluphidYeah, that's probably the best option, I thought you guys might know of a work around16:58
tgm4883_laptopsorry, i've never seen that problem before16:58
ooloncolluphidBut I'm fairly sure it is mplayer that has the problem not mythtv16:58
tgm4883_laptopi agree16:58
ooloncolluphidthanks for you help thoug, I appreciate it16:58
chrisorkmmh. i had to rename the theme-folder.17:12
chrisorknow my frontend works again.17:13
Stemming78Needing assistance; clocking errors on my router and need to disable security; need to know how to setup the /interfaces/network file.17:52
Stemming78Anyone available to help?17:53
zagibuhey guys...is there an easy way to reduce the noise of a sata dvd drive?20:08
tgm4883_laptopzagibu, seagate 7200.10 or 7200.11 drive?20:12
zagibuit's a samsung writemaster sata dvd drive20:13
zagibuthe hd is silent enough20:13
tgm4883_laptopoh heh, guess i didn't read the dvd part20:13
tgm4883_laptopmythtv .20.2 or .21?20:14
zagibuis there a file that tells me this?20:15
tgm4883_laptopare you using 7.10 or 8.04?20:16
zagibu7.1020:16
tgm4883_laptopare you fully updated?20:16
zagibuyeah20:16
tgm4883_laptopok20:16
rhpot1991_laptopin the settings there is a dvd speed20:16
tgm4883_laptopis the time listed in the theme?20:16
rhpot1991_laptopby default mine was on 2, and I can't hear it20:16
zagibui know that there is a setting in mythtv, but it's already at the lowest20:16
tgm4883_laptopsounds like a hardware problem then20:17
zagibuthe time is not listed20:17
rhpot1991_laptopmine was noisy as can be on install20:17
rhpot1991_laptopbut with that speed holding it back its quiet now, liteon sata lightscribe blah blah20:17
zagibudo you have a sata drive as well?20:17
zagibuok20:17
zagibuhmmm20:17
tgm4883_laptopnext class time20:19
rhpot1991_laptopzagibu: maybe your case is part of the issue, or is it just spinning that loudly?20:20
zagibuit's just the spinning20:21
zagibua FFFFF sound20:21
rhpot1991_laptopwell spinning can cause vibration, but mine definitely sounded like a truck when it spun during the install20:21
zagibuit's really just the air here...the case doesn't vibrate at all20:22
rhpot1991_laptopwell my case has all sorts of fancy rubber stoppers to dampen noise, so thats why I mentioned it20:22
zagibuit's alright, I know that usually vibrations are the problem, but here it really isn't20:23
zagibuat first, the disk was causing vibrations, and the whole case made noises, but then I hanged the disk in with some elastics and now it's completely quiet20:23
zagibuthe strange thing is, I can even start a DVD and it's silent for the first 10 seconds of the film or so, but then it spins up20:24
rhpot1991_laptopmight need to verify myth is actually slowing it down, can try asking in #ubuntu or start a thread on the forums?20:24
barry253hi all - anyone know what can cause audio/video breakups in recordings? i thought signal problems, but livetv is perfect20:25
rhpot1991_laptopbarry253: BE and FE on the same box?20:26
barry253yes20:26
zagibuare you doing hardware encoding?20:26
rhpot1991_laptopcould be the playback profile20:26
rhpot1991_laptopcheck and see if your cpu is maxed out while its breaking up20:26
barry253using hdhomerun.  would playback profile affect the file or just the FE playback? i viewed the file on another machine, same problems20:27
barry253so it's a problem when recording20:27
rhpot1991_laptop0.21 or 0.20.2?20:27
barry2530.2120:27
rhpot1991_laptopwell you can have different profiles for live and recordings20:27
rhpot1991_laptopso check that first20:27
rhpot1991_laptopif your live tv works, your recordings should be ok20:27
rhpot1991_laptopsince live tv is just a recording played back right away20:27
barry253not following - which profiles are you referring to? if you're talking about playback profiles, shouldn't that only affect local playback?20:29
rhpot1991_laptopwell each frontend has its own profile20:30
rhpot1991_laptopwhat cpu do you have in your frontends?20:30
barry253athlon 64 x2 3800+20:32
barry253problem exists for both SD and HD, i think since upgrading to 0.2120:32
rhpot1991_laptopI'd compare the live profile with the recording profile20:32
rhpot1991_laptopsee if they are different20:32
rhpot1991_laptopcan try to watch something as a live tv and then go ahead and watch that live tv as a recording and see if your problem exists then20:33
barry253but why would the profile affect the actual recoded file?20:34
barry253unless i'm missing something - these are playback profiles, no?20:34
barry253sorry, i see you mean recording profiles20:35
barry253i don't see where to edit/view them20:35
rhpot1991_laptopwell I'm not sure if the recording profiles applies to your card20:36
rhpot1991_laptopthe playback profiles have been a cause of a lot of skipping in playback, as seen in the FAQs20:36
barry253the recording profile for the hdhomerun shows Default, Live TV, High Quality, and Low Quality, but none have any details nor are editable20:37
rhpot1991_laptopya I think they don't matter for the HDHR20:37
barry253even when i take the captured video file and view it on another machine, i see the same breaks in video/audio20:37
barry253so it's not a local playback problem20:37
rhpot1991_laptopoh, when you said about remotely I figured you meant remote frontend20:38
rhpot1991_laptopsame channels with recordings and live tv?20:38
barry253no, sorry for the confusion20:38
barry253yes20:38
rhpot1991_laptopand is it more than one recording?20:38
barry253every recording has some level of distortion20:39
barry253some much worse than others20:39
barry253only odd thing in the logs is "No accelerated IMDCT transform found"20:40
barry253which seems like an audio error message which many people get20:40
jabagaweehey guys20:46
jabagaweeanyone here?20:46
rhpot1991_laptop!ask | jabagawee20:47
ubotujabagawee: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)20:47
rhpot1991_laptopbarry253: try the forums?20:49
barry253will do, thanks20:49
jabagaweehere's the thing. i trust the ubuntu irc channels a ton, so i decided to come here instead of #mythtv-users. also, opera can't find #mythtv-users. :P here's the deal: the 8400GS appears online for about 40$ at multiple retailers. my friend has a used 7600GS that he's willing to part with for a mere 35$. My question is: is it worth it to just take the 7600GS? is there a feature in the GeForce 8 series that'll be worth20:51
jabagaweefriend's card?20:51
rhpot1991_laptopmy opinion is that the one thats $5 more comes with a warranty, then again I generally don't like open box, refirbs and such20:52
rhpot1991_laptopmight want to search the forums/google on both models and look for complaints20:53
rhpot1991_laptopI was happy with my asus silent 7600gs, but don't see why there would be any problems with the other20:54
jabagaweewell, i pretty much know that both cards will work fine. my friend will offer a refund if the card dies on me way too fast. he's been using it for gaming for quite a while now. also, a *600GS is waaay more powerful than a *400GS, by any opinion. i just wanna know if there's something like a super-PureVideo engine available to only the GeForce 8 series.20:54
jabagaweei feel semi-obliged to buy the card from him, seeing as how he needs to liquidate some parts. if i don't purchase from him, it'll just lie around uselessly.20:55
directhexthere is no hardware enabled video rendering on linux unless it's for mpeg220:57
directhexand that works on any nvidia card, give or take20:57
directhexso no, you won't miss any features20:57
directhexat least the 7600 can draw a polygon without pausing for a rest, unlike the 840020:57
jabagaweeexplain the polygon drawing thing, please20:58
directhexthe 8400 is worthless for even the lightest of gaming, which is something that bothers me.20:59
jabagaweeokay then, that about solves my problem. i'll get the 760021:00

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