[00:00] <cannon> the type am try to extract is rar ... not had probs with it before
[00:01] <algyz> cannon:  sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[00:01] <chalcedony> nonewmsgs: a2ps worked .. so how do i get opera to work?
[00:01] <cannon> k
[00:01] <dwidmann> chalcedony: won't it start?
[00:02] <nonewmsgs> dwidmann: she wants to print
[00:02] <dwidmann> ah
[00:02] <cannon> yey, i can watch movies again! :D
[00:02] <cannon> thanks algyz
[00:02] <algyz> ;)
[00:02] <dwidmann> If you've got cups setup opera should be able to print using cups ....... worked for me without any additional work, hmmm
[00:03] <nonewmsgs> dwidmann: she had some problem from priter sharing that recently stopped working
[00:04] <chalcedony> dwidmann: it did work.. my husband wants the new printer to print BOTH sides of the paper..
[00:04]  * dwidmann nods
[00:04] <cannon> hmmm, pizza, linux and a movie! :)
[00:05] <dwidmann> chalcedony: did and still does? or is it related to switching the duplex option that makes it not work?
[00:05] <algyz> cannon:  also I'd prefer install karchiver, good thing to manage with archives
[00:06] <dwidmann> Ark would be awesome if it had a better UI and was more stable .....
[00:07] <cannon> i'll look into it :)
[00:09] <chalcedony> dwidmann: chull is my husband,  we had an HP 7210 .. that worked
[00:09] <chalcedony> we got the HP L 7780
[00:10] <chalcedony> it is supposed to print both and single sided documents and print from both the upper and lower trays
[00:10] <chalcedony> so it has to have somewhere to tell it that
[00:11] <chalcedony> HP_L7780 Properties lists two possible names
[00:11] <chalcedony> IPP Printer or printer on CUPS server (IPP) and
[00:12] <chalcedony> TCP/Socket, HP JetDirect, Raw connection .. which shows port 9100
[00:12] <chalcedony> that one did print .. at least from a2ps
[00:13] <chalcedony> the CUPS does not print at all
[00:13] <chalcedony> or maybe only the test page
[00:13] <dwidmann> hmm, if it can handle the test page it should do the rest :s
[00:14] <chalcedony> nonewmsgs dwidmann ?
[00:14] <dwidmann> at least single sided ........
[00:14] <chalcedony> hmm
[00:14] <nonewmsgs> which is why i suggested testing it under gedit
[00:14] <dwidmann> openprinting.org says the HP L7700 should be supported
[00:14] <chalcedony> i should have something on gedit open somewhere
[00:14] <dwidmann> nonewmsgs: or kate, no reason to install gedit :)
[00:15] <nonewmsgs> no she uses gnome
[00:15] <nonewmsgs> her husband uses K
[00:15] <nonewmsgs> opposites attract ;)
[00:15] <dwidmann> :s
[00:15] <dwidmann> weird couple
[00:15] <chalcedony> linux is so wonderful .. everyone can have lots of individual choices
[00:15] <dwidmann> also odd choice of channel, swiitching off on the same nick? Ah, that must be it .... I think
[00:16] <dwidmann> indeed
[00:16] <chalcedony> don't you love freenode's making nicks link ?
[00:16] <nonewmsgs> i like this chanel better than #ubuntu.  it has the right amount of joking around and number of people to help
[00:17] <nonewmsgs> sometimes that other one gets to be quite a fustercluck
[00:17] <chalcedony> nonewmsgs: agreed
[00:17]  * dwidmann gets yelled at more than enough for joking around half the time
[00:17] <chalcedony> dwidmann: *hug*
[00:18] <chalcedony> i'm waiting for gedit to let me put a filename
[00:18] <chalcedony> graphics load slowly
[00:18]  * chalcedony likes vim
[00:19] <dwidmann> yay vim!
[00:19]  * nonewmsgs no wonder she
[00:19] <nonewmsgs> s taken
[00:20] <charwood> Does apt have a changelog feature?
[00:20] <charwood> e.g. apt-cache changelog wesnoth
[00:20] <dwidmann> charwood: A changelog? Well, the package should at the least, check /usr/share/doc/......
[00:20] <dwidmann> charwood: , oh that .... hmmm
[00:21] <dwidmann> don't think it does
[00:21] <chalcedony> dwidmann: :)
[00:21] <charwood> Well it should.  (-8  That'd be hot.  Ok.  Thanks dwidmann
[00:22] <dwidmann> charwood: aptitude does
[00:22] <charwood> dwidmann: Interesting.  Aptitude alledgedly rocks.  I should probably investigate it more.
[00:23] <chalcedony> in printing jobs i have a list of jobs that it Stopped: job-stopped
[00:23] <charwood> Oh wow.  "%aptitude changelog wesnoth" does exactly what you'd want it to.  That's tremendous.
[00:23] <dwidmann> charwood: that's a war that usually ends up 50-50 as far as I've seen
[00:24] <charwood> dwidmann: I imagine so.  Well I have no particular beef with apt.  It may not be perfect, but in my book it pretty much wins the "how things should be installed" game.
[00:25] <dwidmann> charwood: agreed
[00:26] <charwood> Ok.  Here's another since this channel is on a roll thus far.  Is there any way to get dolphin to display MIME types such that one can sort by them?
[00:28] <chalcedony> dwidmann: nonewmsgs i deleted all the spare jobs and tried printing from both settings.. it's showing Printing: job printing  ... but nothing gets printed.
[00:28] <dwidmann> charwood: like sort by type? Dolphin definitely, D3lphin, not so sure
[00:28] <chalcedony> that's on TCP/Socket, HP Jet Direct, Raw connectino
[00:28] <dwidmann> charwood: dolphin also has a nice filter feature
[00:29] <dwidmann> (don't think d3lphin does)
[00:29] <chalcedony> you know.. i discoverd that my husband's version of xchat automatically brings up the log of the previous conversation!
[00:30] <dwidmann> chalcedony: check /var/log/cups for errors maybe?
[00:30] <dwidmann> (or similar)
[00:31] <chalcedony> dwidmann: umm what am i looking for there?
[00:31] <dwidmann> chalcedony: think that's a dir, there can be a file called "error_log[.#.gz]"
[00:32] <dwidmann> or something like that
[00:32] <chalcedony>  error_log.7.gz
[00:32] <dwidmann> if there's anything in the error_log then that's probably a sign of BAD.
[00:32] <chalcedony> and error_log.1-7
[00:32] <dwidmann> error_log should be the most recent, the gz are archived errors
[00:32] <charwood> dwidmann: I see.  So d3lphin is the KDE 3.5 version?  I think you're right that it does not have sort by type but it does have a filter (perhaps not as snazzy as dolphin's?)
[00:33] <chalcedony> /var/log/cups$ less error_log.7.gz
[00:33] <chalcedony> error_log.7.gz: Permission denied
[00:33] <chalcedony> /var/log/cups$
[00:33] <jimmy51vinsky> does chroot work on the live cd?
[00:33] <jimmy51vinsky> i keep getting exec error
[00:33] <dwidmann> charwood: dolphins is indeed very snazzy, but the one in d3lphin should work fine if its there ... one simple use might be to type in the extension, not as good as checking by mimetype, but still not too bad
[00:34] <dwidmann> jimmy51vinsky: well, if you're chrooting into a 64-bit system it has to be a 64-bit live cd, other than that, chrooting will work fine in pretty much all cases
[00:34] <charwood> dwidmann: Yes.  Thank you once more.  Have a nice evening (well, it's evening here anyway).
[00:34] <dwidmann> charwood: you're welcome, and I will do
[00:36] <dwidmann> chalcedony: realistically I'm only trying to point you in the right direction so you can find somebody super smart and/or file a bug report .... I probably won't be able to decipher much with regards to the logs, anyhow, don't forget to use sudo :)
[00:37] <chalcedony> dwidmann: having someone to talk to helps a LOT
[00:37] <chalcedony> my son moved to texas and is being paid lots of money for his time
[00:37] <chalcedony> he never did like tech support
[00:38] <dwidmann> chalcedony: I agree that it helps quite a lot ..... most of the time when I have a problem it falls on deaf ears though :(
[00:39] <chalcedony> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168231 does this at all relate to my problem?
[00:39] <chalcedony> dwidmann: stick around .. there are usually people somewhere
[00:41] <dwidmann> chalcedony: 1/5 of the time I can generally get help, 2/5 of the time I slap myself in the forehead for being an idiot, and the rest of the time I'm outta luck ...
[00:41] <dwidmann> chalcedony: it might relate to your problem, what did your logs say?
[00:42] <chalcedony> chull: dwidmann :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62788/
[00:42] <jimmy51vinsky> uh... oops
[00:42]  * jimmy51vinsky was using a 32 bit cd :)
[00:42] <chalcedony> jimmy51vinsky: :)
[00:42] <chalcedony> on 64 bit?
[00:42] <b4l74z4r> is it possible to have a seperate taskbar on the bottom and a menubar at the top just like gnome in kde?
[00:43] <dwidmann> jimmy51vinsky: that would do it .... I personally like systemrescue cd ..... has both of the kernels on the disk :)
[00:44] <dwidmann> b4l74z4r: should be, yeah
[00:45] <dwidmann> right click the panel, go to add new panel
[00:45] <chalcedony> dwidmann: chull: this is the ongoing errors on printing from gedit: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62789/
[00:46] <chalcedony> initial error:
[00:46] <chalcedony> (gedit:3449): GnomePrint-WARNING **: Could not create filter from description 'GnomePrintFilterSelect': filter 'GnomePrintFilterSelect' is unknown
[00:46] <chalcedony> (gedit:3449): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid (NULL) pointer instance
[00:46] <dwidmann> chalcedony: try gunzipping the files, and the lessing them with root privileges (some of those logs are probably unviewable without root privileges or lpadmin group)
[00:46] <dwidmann> ** or lp group
[00:48] <dwidmann> chalcedony: (ie: perms are like, 540 for some of the files), owned by root, group lp or lpadmin depending on the file
[00:49] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, "Unable to start a standalone server: Address already in use" ..trying out pure-ftpd
[00:49] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: stop pro-ftpd before you try to start pure-ftpd
[00:49] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: they don't get along
[00:49] <BluesKaj> yeah I removed it
[00:50] <BluesKaj> altho it's still listed in system services , but it's not running
[00:50] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: any other ftpds running? hmmmm, maybe some of the confifguring from pro-ftpd is overriding things that pure-ftpd would look to for defaults or something?
[00:51] <chalcedony> "error_log.7.gz" may be a binary file.  See it anyway?
[00:51] <chalcedony> /var/log/cups$
[00:51] <dwidmann> chalcedony: that's why I said to try unzipping it first
[00:51] <chalcedony> ahh
[00:51] <chalcedony> <-- little old ladyi
[00:52] <dwidmann> chalcedony: 'sok, I tried the same thing
[00:53] <chalcedony> root@marcus:/var/log/cups# gunzip error_log.1.gz
[00:53] <chalcedony> root@marcus:/var/log/cups# less error_log.1.gz
[00:53] <chalcedony> error_log.1.gz: No such file or directory
[00:53] <chalcedony> root@marcus:/var/log/cups#
[00:53] <dwidmann> chalcedony: come to think of it, I started running into big trouble with my printer after grabbing upgrades from gutsy-update/gutsy-security/gutsy-backports (one of those) .... stock gutsy worked fine with my HP C5280 for everything I needed
[00:53] <dwidmann> chalcedony: did it rename it error_log.1?
[00:53] <chalcedony> hmmmm
[00:53] <chalcedony> whatever he did made mine not work
[00:53] <chalcedony> it *was* working
[00:55] <dwidmann> chalcedony: try popping in a livecd and see if it works then, if it does then there are a handful of bugreports with potential fixes that I think I saw, but I looked at that after wiping it and putting the stock gutsy back on (have to have my working printer afterall)
[01:10] <BluesKaj> wow that pproftpd is like doodoo on a blanket , can't get rid of it ...uninstalled with synaptic , sudo rm -rf where/file/was installed , ...you name it ...it's still listed in system services, altho not running ..unreal
[01:11] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: try sudo dpkg --purge pro-ftpd ??
[01:12] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, says it's not installed
[01:12] <dwidmann> (note: purge gets rid of the confs, which I'm sure you know, but it should also clear out the trail it left too
[01:12] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: guess you already purged it then
[01:13] <BluesKaj> but there's still this file /usr/share/app-install/desktop/gproftpd
[01:13] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: think it's a seperate package though isn't it?
[01:13] <oloughlin75> Where is the settings for automatic turn off screen for a laptop? Mine turns off after like 10 minutes, but I don't want it to.
[01:14] <dwidmann> oloughlin75: right click the desktop and go to configure, I think there's a setting for it in the screensaver screen .... appart from that try looking in systemsettings -> monitor & display
[01:14] <BluesKaj> anyway dwidmann , i'm still getting the 'address in use' error
[01:15] <dwidmann> What does google have to say about that error BluesKaj?
[01:15] <oloughlin75> dwidmann: Screensaver is off, system settings modules won't load
[01:16] <dwidmann> oloughlin75: incomplete upgrade?
[01:16] <oloughlin75> It is updating, I will try in a minute
[01:17] <oloughlin75> Ah I must have missed the power saving when I looked before.
[01:17] <oloughlin75> Thanks dwidmann
[01:17] <chalcedony> dwidmann: i gave up and phoned son.. his apartment complex was hit by a tornado last night.. he said he will poke the printer maybe tonight .. ill email him, is there anything i should tell him?
[01:17] <dwidmann> you're welcome oloughlin75
[01:19] <dwidmann> chalcedony: if you've looked at the cups error logs (ie: gunzipped them and read them as root), including any error message that seems constant. Apart from that, have you tried doing it on the livecd yet? If that works then it was a problem with one of the upgraded packages. Poor him though, Tornadoes and houses don't play well together.
[01:19] <chalcedony> dwidmann: i forgot about the live cd.. let me ask my husband ty for reminding me :)
[01:20] <chalcedony> dwidmann: never mind he's asleep .. i sure don't want to close all my stuff and reboot this.
[01:20] <dwidmann> Anyhow ....... I really need to get to bed, I need to wake up at 3:00am tomorrow
[01:20] <chalcedony> ouch!
[01:20] <chalcedony> dwidmann: i'll do it .. when he's awake
[01:21] <chalcedony> dwidmann: have a great night
[01:21] <dwidmann> chalcedony: indeed, but I am somewhat used to it at least
[01:21] <dwidmann> Will do
[01:21] <dwidmann> night
[01:21] <chalcedony> :)
[01:21] <chalcedony> sleep well
[01:21] <dwidmann> thanks
[01:27] <andre__> My system errored while trying to configure libc6 for Hardy beta and now every solution I've tried tells me to run 'apt-get -f install'... which redisplays the error about failing to configure libc6.
[01:27] <Odd-rationale> andre__: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[01:42] <adude> how do i get my audio back?
[01:42] <cannon> hey guys, how do I change the password for root access?
[01:43] <cannon> turn your speakers back on adude :P
[01:43] <adude> tried that already
[01:43] <cannon> lol
[01:43] <adude> thay are turned on
[01:43] <cannon> sorry, couldn't resist
[01:44] <cannon> is kmix running?
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> !root
[01:44] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:44] <Odd-rationale> cannon: you want to change root's passwd?
[01:44] <rootlinuxusr> no, don't change me!
[01:44] <rootlinuxusr> xD
[01:44] <cannon> LOL!
[01:44] <cannon> yeah
[01:45] <cannon> another page to bookmark :)
[01:45] <adude> no kmix is running still no audio
[01:45] <Odd-rationale> cannon: you did not activate the root account did you?
[01:45] <cannon> i have no idea
[01:46] <cannon> but the sudo password is the same as my cannon user
[01:46] <rootlinuxusr> yeah
[01:46] <rootlinuxusr> should be
[01:46] <cannon> i have 2 others that use ssh
[01:46] <SlicerDicer> anybody here familar with software raid?
[01:46] <cannon> so if I change cannon's pass would it change sudo's too?
[01:47] <Odd-rationale> cannon: everyone in the admin groups can use sudo with their own passwd
[01:47] <rootlinuxusr> look for the sudoers file
[01:47] <Dr_willis> sudo is a very flexiable system. YOu could set up specific commands thta specific users could do via sudo. if you wanted to
[01:48] <SlicerDicer> Dr_willis: I prefer sudo -s then just do what I need too instead of typing sudo everytime heh
[01:48] <rootlinuxusr> Is there any way to mount a virtualbox hard drive?
[01:48] <SlicerDicer> cause usually I am doing stupid stuff for quite a while heh
[01:48] <Dr_willis> SlicerDicer,  i tend to use 'sux'
[01:48] <SlicerDicer> right now I am trying to figure out whats going on with my raid heh
[01:48] <Dr_willis> but that wasent what he was asking bout.. :)
[01:49] <SlicerDicer> I am not paying too much attention :)
[01:49] <SlicerDicer> sorry
[01:49] <adude> when i try to run amarok i get an error
[01:49] <adude> xine failed to initialize any audio drivers
[01:50] <adude> any way i can make xine initialize audio drivers?
[01:50] <cannon> i wonder how many "different" docs there are at the ubuntu.com site
[01:51] <cannon> gn all
[01:51] <rootlinuxusr> night
[01:51] <cannon> time for some zzzzzzzzz's
[01:51] <mcgub_> adude: what version of kubuntu?
[01:52]  * cannon changes rootlinuxusr's password before he goes :P
[01:52] <adude> the beta kde4
[01:52] <mcgub_> that's kde...what about ubuntu?
[01:52] <srestroncio> hello
[01:53] <Odd-rationale> srestroncio: hi
[01:53] <mcgub_> nm...gotta link for ya that worked for me...
[01:54] <mcgub_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[01:54] <BluesKaj> adude, amarok is practically broken in kde4 ...extremely buggy
[01:54] <mcgub_> it's for alsa drivers
[01:54] <adude> i don't have audio anywhere else either
[01:54] <mcgub_> try the link
[01:55] <BluesKaj> adude, use your kde 3 version if it's still in the k-menu
[01:55] <SlicerDicer> mdadm: superblock on /dev/sda1 doesn't match others - assembly aborted
[01:55] <SlicerDicer> what would cause that?
[01:57] <jimmy51vinsky> how can install grub from the livecd?
[01:57] <jimmy51vinsky> i have no /boot/grub at all
[01:57] <_ZeuZ_> Guys, how-to reduce the bright of a laptop display when in batery mode?
[01:57] <BluesKaj> !grub | jimmy51vinsky
[01:57] <ubotu> jimmy51vinsky: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:58] <jimmy51vinsky> i'm in that tut right now, but on the setup (hd0) stage, i get Error 15: file not found
[01:58] <BunnyRevolution> that's tarded.  amarok requires mysql
[01:58] <jimmy51vinsky> (because /boot/grub doesn't exist)
[01:58] <_ZeuZ_> !reduce bright laptop
[01:59] <jimmy51vinsky> do i just copy the livecd's grub to the hd, and modify menu.lst accordingly?
[01:59] <_ZeuZ_> or you just run update-grub ^^
[01:59] <aaron_> hello
[01:59] <cannon> !chown
[01:59] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[01:59] <_ZeuZ_> Guys, how-to reduce the bright of a laptop display when in batery mode?
[02:00] <aaron_> whAT
[02:00] <Dr_willis> _ZeuZ_,  use the laptop special functionkeys works for me.
[02:00] <_ZeuZ_> it doesnot for me...
[02:00] <rootlinuxusr> fn up/down arrow keys?
[02:00] <_ZeuZ_> I-ve seen something like x-setbacklight or something like that
[02:00] <jimmy51vinsky> update-grub wants to update /boot/grub, which is on the RAMDISK, not my HD0 mounted under /mnt
[02:00] <_ZeuZ_> hmm
[02:00] <jimmy51vinsky> how can i install grub on hd0 if it doesn't currently exist
[02:00] <BluesKaj> jimmy51vinsky, it might be hidden , alt+f2 ,kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst look for 'hiddenmenu' make sure they commented out with a # in front
[02:00] <_ZeuZ_> then you'll have to install it to hd0,1 I guess
[02:01] <jimmy51vinsky> it's really not there
[02:01] <jimmy51vinsky> :)
[02:01] <Dr_willis> jimmy51vinsky,  you mean hd0 dosent exist?
[02:01] <jimmy51vinsky> is installing grub not feasible with the kubuntu live cd
[02:01] <jimmy51vinsky> hd0 exists, but there is absolutely no grub folder
[02:01] <jimmy51vinsky> or menu.lst
[02:01] <BluesKaj> does your /boot/grub/menu.lst not exist /
[02:01] <BluesKaj> ?
[02:02] <jimmy51vinsky> ok... on the livecd, it does
[02:02] <Dr_willis> jimmy51vinsky,  you dont have to have ./boot/ on the same disk as  you are install ing grub to.
[02:02] <jimmy51vinsky> i only have one disk
[02:02] <jimmy51vinsky> i have one HDD
[02:02] <jimmy51vinsky> it doesn't boot
[02:02] <Dr_willis> one disk, but how many partitions?
[02:02] <jimmy51vinsky> i've booted to the kubuntu live cd
[02:02] <Dr_willis> Its possible its missing. :)
[02:02] <jimmy51vinsky> two partitions, one ext3 and one swap
[02:03] <jimmy51vinsky> on my ext3 partition, i have a /boot folder
[02:03] <Bugs_BunnyBR> hello people..I need to know how I can remaster the kubuntu..someone can help me ??
[02:03] <jimmy51vinsky> but no /grub folder
[02:03] <jimmy51vinsky> i would really really like to install grub on hd0
[02:03] <richard> cual es la pagina en español please
[02:03] <Dr_willis> jimmy51vinsky,  there is that super-grub boot disk web site. that has floppy images for the. I recall
[02:03] <_ZeuZ_> Bugs_BunnyBR, just mood each step, kdm themes, the usplash theme, the distro name, it will still be based on debian, oh, and add the soft you need
[02:03] <Odd-rationale> !es | richard
[02:03] <ubotu> richard: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:03] <_ZeuZ_> richard
[02:04] <_ZeuZ_> anda a kubuntu-es
[02:04] <richard> tank you
[02:04] <patoe1> hey
[02:04] <Bugs_BunnyBR> yes..but ..how I can chance the distro name in the boot on grub ?
[02:04] <patoe1> my compiler isnt working :S
[02:04] <_ZeuZ_> Bugs
[02:05] <rootlinuxusr> startup-manager?
[02:05] <rootlinuxusr> for the grub thingie
[02:05] <_ZeuZ_> edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst and just change the name
[02:05] <Odd-rationale> Bugs_BunnyBR: edit the menu.lst file
[02:05] <_ZeuZ_> or do ass rootlinuxusr says, wich will require you to install that package
[02:05] <Odd-rationale> ass rootlinuxusr ?
[02:05] <rootlinuxusr> yes, rootlinuxusr the ass.
[02:05] <rootlinuxusr> =]
[02:05] <Bugs_BunnyBR> do you have some tuto ?
[02:06] <Bugs_BunnyBR> I will learn about the startup-manager :D
[02:06] <Odd-rationale> Bugs_BunnyBR: to "kdesudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst" then under the title heading, change it to whatever you want
[02:06] <Dr_willis> Ive seen several ubuntu tutoral web sites with info on remastering  the ubuntu cd;s
[02:06] <Dr_willis> If thats what you are refering to.
[02:06] <_ZeuZ_> sorry typo
[02:07] <rootlinuxusr> sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst, save to desktop, go back to terminal cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lstbak cp ~/Desktop/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:07] <Bugs_BunnyBR> I also see to many..but none talking about chance the boot screen
[02:08] <Dr_willis> its all defined in the menu.lst for the grub menus.
[02:09] <_ZeuZ_> THe boot screen goes with usplash, not with grub, unless you install gfxboot
[02:09] <rootlinuxusr> is there anyway to mount a virtualbox virtual hard drive under a AMD64, kubuntu 7.1 system?
[02:09] <_ZeuZ_> yes
[02:09] <_ZeuZ_> mount -t filesystem /wherever/the/file/is /dev/Virtual
[02:10] <Bugs_BunnyBR> so I also will need study how change the upslash
[02:10] <Bugs_BunnyBR> :D
[02:10] <Bugs_BunnyBR> thanks
[02:10] <_ZeuZ_> as you might now, the file you create to simulate the OS native partition, or such, is formated that way, so you can normally moyunt it
[02:10] <_ZeuZ_> Bugs, install startupmanager (sum) and download new usplash themes, then change them with sum
[02:11] <_ZeuZ_> damned winmodems...
[02:12] <Bugs_BunnyBR> _ZeuZ_ I can create my owner usplash?
[02:12] <_ZeuZ_> yes sir, but it takhoughes work t
[02:12] <rootlinuxusr> mount: ~/.VirtualBox/VDI/Ubuntu.vdi is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[02:12] <_ZeuZ_> sorry, touchpad problem
[02:13] <_ZeuZ_> what did you mount it as?
[02:13] <rootlinuxusr> ext3, /media/test
[02:13] <Dr_willis> I thought .vdi had to be converted to raw  image files first
[02:13] <_ZeuZ_> did you create the folder /media/test?
[02:13] <rootlinuxusr> yes
[02:14] <_ZeuZ_> rather mount it to something in /mnt
[02:14] <_ZeuZ_> Dr_Willis, perhaps
[02:14] <rootlinuxusr> tried under /mnt/test too...nadda
[02:14] <Bugs_BunnyBR> _ZeuZ_, sorry ..but I can't understand.. what is "takhoughes"..?Enghish isn't my fisrt lang..
[02:15] <_ZeuZ_> Does anybody knows the beta version of that thing that downloads torrents and then sends you the link with a direct download link? read it in slashdot nad nedint it now...
[02:15] <_ZeuZ_> Bugs, it was my mistake
[02:15] <rootlinuxusr> would like to know that too...
[02:15] <_ZeuZ_> rootlinuxusr, gonna check now in barrapunto, where I saw it
[02:15] <_ZeuZ_> It's imageshack
[02:16] <_ZeuZ_> !usplash | Bugs_BunnyBR
[02:16] <ubotu> Bugs_BunnyBR: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[02:16] <rootlinuxusr> !vbox
[02:16] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[02:17] <rootlinuxusr> !knoppix
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knoppix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <_ZeuZ_> lol
[02:17] <Bugs_BunnyBR> _ZeuZ_...what?
[02:17] <rootlinuxusr> meh figured it was worth a try... xD
[02:17] <_ZeuZ_> Bugs, ther eyou've got the link with info for what you're looking for
[02:18] <Bugs_BunnyBR> yes..just now I see..
[02:19] <Bugs_BunnyBR> thanks
[02:19] <Bugs_BunnyBR> the Kubuntu installer it's called Ubiquity ..it's rigth?
[02:20] <_ZeuZ_> rootlinuxusr, http://tor.imageshack.us/tor/
[02:22] <rootlinuxusr> lolwut?
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> Bugs_BunnyBR: yes
[02:22] <Bugs_BunnyBR> someone here knows why the installer crashes (in the 8.04 beta) when is not in enghish ?
[02:22] <Bugs_BunnyBR> how to fix?
[02:23] <_ZeuZ_> Bugs, here in spanish worked just fine
[02:23] <_ZeuZ_> hehe, just found a torrent for the commercial hsf winmodem drivers for Linux ^^ sourcode included... so soon I'll be compiling it for plataforms and packing it...
[02:24] <rootlinuxusr> nice
[02:24] <_ZeuZ_> pitty that now I'm using 56kbps, but if someone wants to download it for me (22mb) and upload it to rapidshare, or to my own FTP, I'll be glad to try to make it into the repos
[02:25] <Bugs_BunnyBR> humm..the new developer of kurumin linux..now based in kubuntu..tell which it's crashes..
[02:26] <rootlinuxusr> I'll do it
[02:26] <_ZeuZ_> Well, I do not use Kubuntu, but tested the last snapshoot and had no trouble... I'm a Debian user.
[02:27] <Bugs_BunnyBR> I love debian..but need to work with kubuntu in my project..
[02:27] <Bugs_BunnyBR> :D
[02:27] <_ZeuZ_> why the need? If Kubuntu, and any Ubuntu, is based on Debian ;)
[02:28] <greeg> i have an intel celeron 32bit.  I want to download and install kubuntu 7.10 and have not just a boot disk.  how do i know which to get off http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/  ?
[02:28] <Bugs_BunnyBR> yes..but the kubuntu kernel it's newer
[02:28] <Bugs_BunnyBR> I the packages also..
[02:28] <Bugs_BunnyBR> and*
[02:28] <rootlinuxusr> you want the 7.10 i386 package
[02:28] <rootlinuxusr> desktop
[02:29] <rootlinuxusr> http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso
[02:29] <rootlinuxusr> intel = i386, desktop = most users, alternative is for like server install or with additional obscure programs
[02:30] <greeg> thanx root
[02:30] <Bugs_BunnyBR> my dsitro will bee instaled in quad cores..I alredy install the ubuntu 7.10 in one..and have to upgrade to the development version cause o problens..
[02:30] <rootlinuxusr> greeg, no probs. =]
[02:30] <rootlinuxusr> amd 64bit = amd64 obviously. xD
[02:31] <greeg> rootlinuxusr: will this boot into a desktop environment and then install from there?
[02:31] <will00> ey im tryin to get kubuntu installed here and whenever i reboot after installation, i get a grub error 15, it goes to the grub menu but then i get the error 15, i looked in my menu.lst and it points to the right files, any other ideas?
[02:31] <rootlinuxusr> it'll boot to a desktop where there will be an install icon on the desktop
[02:31] <rootlinuxusr> yes
[02:31] <_ZeuZ_> No, it's not newer.
[02:31] <rootlinuxusr> what else do you have installed?
[02:31] <_ZeuZ_> You can install the kernel you wany.
[02:32] <_ZeuZ_> Bugs, that's crap. You can have that kernel, if you move to Debian SID, which Ubuntu is based on.
[02:32] <_ZeuZ_> Along with the versions of the DEB packages that are there
[02:32] <kkerwin> Hi. I've tried asking on #kontact, but the channel seems to be dead. I'm trying to change the background color of Kontact by using the color configurator in the KDE3 control panel. It doesn't seem to be working: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2804/snapshotaw3.jpg
[02:33] <kkerwin> In the mentioned picture, you can see kontact on the left, and another application that has the desired theme on the right.
[02:33] <kkerwin> I've noticed that a few other applications have the same issues.
[02:33] <_ZeuZ_> Wiii!! Me = Happy, downloading the 22mb torrent with the new Imageshack system...
[02:33] <Bugs_BunnyBR> yes..I can compile the kernel..but and when someone want to install the Nvidia driver by the ubuntu repository and it dont work?
[02:33] <kkerwin> And they're all KDE3 apps. (Yes, I realize that I'm using KDE4 at present)
[02:34] <will00> anyone know why i cant get a good reboot off a fresh install?
[02:34] <_ZeuZ_> you do not need to
[02:34] <_ZeuZ_> you can have a precompiled one.
[02:34] <_ZeuZ_> And same for the propietary drivers of nVidia.
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> kkerwin: are there kontact specific settings?
[02:34] <Bugs_BunnyBR> humm
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> (there easily could be, amarok has its own)
[02:34] <rootlinuxusr> anybody know how to get gfire working in pidgin?
[02:34] <Dr_willis> _ZeuZ_,  getting torentfiles over imageshack? :)
[02:35] <_ZeuZ_> Dr_willis, tor.imageshack or something like that xD
[02:35] <_ZeuZ_> works amazingly well
[02:35] <_ZeuZ_> the new is on torrent freak
[02:35] <rootlinuxusr> http://tor.imageshack.us/tor/
[02:35] <_ZeuZ_> and that's the link I pasted to rootlinuxusr 5 minutes ago xD
[02:35] <kkerwin> nosrednaekim: Not that seem to allow configuration of the window background. Care to give it a second look for me?
[02:36] <rootlinuxusr> yes
[02:36] <_ZeuZ_> Wonder if they allow resuming downloads...
[02:36] <Bugs_BunnyBR> well..see you boys.. thanks a lot !! I will be here again..
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> kkerwin: settings->appearnce->colors?
[02:36] <_ZeuZ_> (from the direct ones)
[02:36] <will00> i keep gettin a grub error 15 anyone got any idea what thats about?
[02:37] <_ZeuZ_> I'm out guys, take care, and do not abuse of Imageshacks tor!
[02:37] <_ZeuZ_> xD
[02:37] <rootlinuxusr> too late
[02:37] <kkerwin> nosrednaekim: Yes, but it doesn't seem to have an option for the window background.
[02:38] <rootlinuxusr> i have no idea what grub error 15 is but i have someone who does
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> kkerwin: you are in kde4?
[02:38] <rootlinuxusr> http://www.google.com/search?q=grub+error+15&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[02:38] <kkerwin> nosrednaekim: Yes.
[02:38] <will00> already workin through that
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> kkerwin: try restarting kde4.... the kde3 settings might not reset or something
[02:38] <_ZeuZ_> That's it, gotta sleep some before this kills me... g'night boys
[02:39] <kkerwin> nosrednaekim: Ok. Will do. Thank you, yet again, for your help on this. :-)
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> ok
[02:41] <greeg> rootlinuxusr:  turns out i have burned that iso you suggested.  i thought it was a boot disk (similar to knoppix),  but there was a message stating a block error (probobly a scratch on the cd), but it booted to the desktop.  is that 1 logical block error a big deal?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> !puregnome
[02:41] <ubotu> If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here << http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome >>
[02:41] <greeg> is it safe to proceed with installation ?
[02:41] <angasule> !strigi
[02:41] <ubotu> Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[02:41] <rootlinuxusr> greeg, it shouldn't be
[02:41] <rootlinuxusr> try it and see if it installs.
[02:42] <rootlinuxusr> or if nothing else, try installing it via virtualbox
[02:42] <rootlinuxusr> set that as a virtually mounted CD
[02:42] <rootlinuxusr> either that or clean the disk
[02:43] <kkerwin> nosrednaekim: No luck. Also, plasma crashed as I closed down KDE4, and now I can't get my taskbar to load. -sigh-
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> 0.o
[02:48] <kkerwin> nosrednaekim: Ok. First off, how do I get my taskbar back?
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> kkerwin: right click on panel->add applet->drag taskbar to panel
[02:49] <kkerwin> nosrednaekim: Pardon. The panel, not the taskbar, is gone.
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> kkerwin: 0.o
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> woah
[02:50] <kkerwin> Ok. Apparently that's not supposed to happen ...
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> no...
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> kkerwin: erase your plasmarc
[02:50] <BluesKaj> kkerwin, yeah kde4 panel is very confusing to me ...doesn't seem to follow the same rules as kde3
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> kkerwin: plasma-appletsrc that is
[02:51] <kkerwin> BluesKaj: Ya. That's what I'm concluding.
[02:51] <kkerwin> nosrednaekim: K.
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> in .kde4/share/config
[02:51] <ncfi1013> can anybody tell me what the problem might be when nero or k3b won't work right
[02:51] <BluesKaj> nero is a windows app
[02:52] <kkerwin> nosrednaekim: Ok. That seemed to do it.
[02:52] <ncfi1013> my roommate uses it in linux
[02:52] <BluesKaj> yeah, but nero for linux is not worth the effort
[02:53] <kkerwin> Ok. Now if I can just figure out the color-scheming in kontact.
[02:53] <BluesKaj> what are you trying to do ncfi1013 ?
[02:53] <ganymede> hello, is anyone else noticing that some variants for adobe professional fonts don't show up in kcontrol's font configuration module? for instance, i don't see the condensed and expanded versions of adobe myraid pro in the font style list
[02:53] <ganymede> this is in kde 3.5.9, by the way
[02:54] <ncfi1013> just burn movies on my harddrive onto a disk
[02:55] <Dr_willis> run the apps from a terminal, look for error messages.
[02:55] <BluesKaj> ncfi1013, avi files , divx. xvid ?
[02:55] <ncfi1013> all of them
[02:55] <Dr_willis> whats 'not working right' even mean....
[02:55] <Dr_willis> k3b last i checked did not convert avi to dvd video format. to make dvd video disks.
[02:56] <Dr_willis> i dident think nero for linux did either.
[02:56] <ncfi1013> when i make the playlist to burn and put in a blank disc the burn option is grayed  out
[02:56] <Dr_willis> You are putting avi/video files in the playlist?
[02:57] <ncfi1013> yes
[02:57] <Dr_willis> the playlist is just for audio/mp3 audio cd's i thought.
[02:57] <ncfi1013> as files not movies
[02:57] <Dr_willis> try other normal files?
[02:57] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, divx & xvid /avi files can be burned to dvd by using the data dvd option in k3b. Mos tnewer stand alone player will play them .
[02:57] <juan_> hello everyone, i am new to kubuntu and i got no sound i can see the speaker on the taskbas but it is marked with an  X and says mixer cannot be found, anyone can help?
[02:57] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  yep. But thats not the same as a dvd video. :)
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> juan_: yes, what sound chipset do you have?
[02:58] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  sounds like his setup isent seeing the cd/dvd burners/disks. so not letting it start a burn
[02:58] <BluesKaj> well Dr_willis , he didn't specify  :)
[02:58] <juan_> nosrednaekim: when i used another distro live cd it installled like HDA something... i think it is a realtek... not sure
[02:58] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  yep..   we have to have ESP+10 in this channel
[02:58] <BluesKaj> I think he's using the wrong options in k3b
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> !intelHDA
[02:58] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[02:58] <ncfi1013> my roommate suggests that i get a new cd/dvd burner drive
[02:59] <Mutedsage> Hi all,
[02:59] <Dr_willis> i suggest running kd3 from a console and look for error messages. Its possible thers some odd permission issue preventing you from  accessing the burner right
[03:00] <Dr_willis> you could as a test. try running k3b with 'sudo k3b'
[03:00] <BluesKaj> ncfi1013, what's the file extension that your trying burn and what option are you choosing in k3b to do so ?
[03:00] <ganymede> Dr_willis: in that case, maybe kdesu is more appropriate
[03:01] <Dr_willis> You did select 'new data cd' or 'new data dvd' instead of  'new audio cd' i hope. :)
[03:01] <Mutedsage> So I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04.   Everything is working properly (after a few apt-get fixes) except that the Nvidia-restricted drivers aren't working.  Is there a fix for this or do I just need to wait for further updates?
[03:01] <Dr_willis> ncfi1013,  You are just wanting to make normal 'data' dvd's to archive the avi files rigth?
[03:02] <BluesKaj> he's consulting with his roomate , the linux guy who uses nero
[03:03] <Dr_willis> thats a scary statement.. :)
[03:03] <Dr_willis> but i gotta run to work.
[03:03] <Dr_willis> bye all...........
[03:05] <Mutedsage> Or should I say: has anyone else had this problem with the beta?
[03:06] <ncfi1013> this the output when i run k3b from the terminal:
[03:06] <ncfi1013> http://pastebin.org/pastebin.php?dl=28905
[03:10] <Pendeta> I'm trying to get a Kubuntu computer to use a printer on a XP computer. The Kubuntu computer see and recognized the printer on the XP computer, but when I try to print a test page I get error code 1027. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:11] <BluesKaj> ncfi1013, in the konsole , sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[03:12] <BluesKaj> ncfi1013, then sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[03:12] <BluesKaj> and make sure you have libdvdcss2 installed as well
[03:15] <BluesKaj> libk3b2-extracodecs is another important one
[03:16] <BluesKaj> and of course W32codecs
[03:19] <ncfi1013> i checked and i have all those installed already
[03:22] <will00> ey im tryin to get this workin, but kubunu wont boot after a fresh install, it gives the grub error 15 (but all the files are fine), and it only boots when i use the "boot from first hard disk" option on the livecd
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> will00: your menu.lst is messed up
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> !grub
[03:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:26] <will00> thatnks that might have worked, but i cant be certian until i reboot
[03:41] <Jamini> Hey, has anyone installed KDE 4
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> yes Jamini
[03:42] <Jamini> How is it?
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> great
[03:45] <Jamini> Thanks for letting me know. I'll probably be back on asking for questions.
[03:46] <dennister> g'evening all...have a difficult question someone asked me earlier today that I don't even understand...out of my league
[03:46] <epimeth_> dennister: ask away
[03:46] <dennister> "How difficult would it be for you to create a boot disk to boot linux into a telnet terminal?  The IP address can be fixed."
[03:47] <dennister> <------has never even seen a telnet terminal
[03:47] <epimeth_> dennister: I'm not sure the person actually knows what he's asking
[03:47] <epimeth_> dennister: open console and type in 'telnet'
[03:47] <Frederick> folks afterupgrading my firefox is completelling broken with erros of assertion failed anyone had the same problem?
[03:48] <epimeth_> Frederick: nope... try updating again?
[03:48] <dennister> epimeth_: exactly...hardware technician who really understands hardware, windows, etc., but not linux at all
[03:48] <epimeth_> dennister: you or the person who asked?
[03:49] <Frederick> can try but not the case
[03:49] <dennister> epimeth_: k...i'm in some kind of dialogue ...telnet>
[03:49] <dennister> epimeth_: the person who asked me this question ^^^ i put i  quotes
[03:49] <epimeth_> dennister: you have now seen a telnet client :-)
[03:50] <epimeth_> dennister: telnet is an application for opening tcp connections
[03:51] <dennister> lol...yes, but i have a linux box...his terminals he's talking about are probably not linux boxes...winblows people think in terms of boot disks (floppies); linux people think in terms of booting with livecd's
[03:51] <epimeth_> dennister: telnet is the same anywhere
[03:53] <dennister> yes, i'm sure it is, and i know it's ancient (not secure, either)...what his client probably has is a bunch of dumb terminals with only a floppy drive, attached to a server...is there a linux distro that can be run from a floppy?
[03:53] <epimeth_> how dumb are the terminals?
[03:55] <dennister> i'm just trying to figure out how to answer him ...i have no idea how dumb they are...i think i'll phone him tomorrow and aska  few pertinent questions...he mentioned there might be some $ in it for me to make such a boot disk.......he also has a new mobo for me :)
[03:57] <epimeth_> dennister: all he has to do is install linux on the server and open up telnet access
[03:57] <epimeth_> dennister: it is disabled by default because, as you say, it is unsecure
[03:57] <epimeth_> dennister: really, there is not much difference between "telnetting" into a box and "sshing" to a box, except for that ssh is secure
[03:58] <epimeth_> dennister: no boot disk, no nothing
[03:58] <dennister> yes...unless there's some corporate rule against this...heck, it could be connected to a mainframe you cannot install linux onto...i just thought some more
[03:59] <dennister> some more knowledgeable telnet-knowledgeable networking people in the channel could help me clarify the questions I'll be asking him
[04:00] <dennister> epimeth_: thanks
[04:01] <alucardromero> Question: How do list the all user accounts on my box through cmdline?
[04:02] <epimeth_> look.  telnet is an application for creating a tcp connection to a service.  the same way you can access multiple tty's with ctrl+f1-6, you can access a terminal through telnet if you enable it
[04:02] <epimeth_> oh.. he's gone
[04:02] <pteague> anybody know if there's a way to modify the output of the clock applet?
[04:02] <p_quarles> alucardromero, cat /etc/passwd
[04:02] <epimeth_> alucardromero: all user accounts or all users logged in?
[04:02] <juan_> anyone knows an easiest way of installing, hda sound drivers?? >_<
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> !intelhda
[04:02] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[04:03] <juan_> thats not easy T_T
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> juan_: in reality, the easist way is to just upgrade to hardy
[04:03] <juan_> nosrednaekim: whats hardy?
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> course, that can cause other problems, but it shouldn't
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> the next version, that is currently in beta
[04:03] <epimeth_> juan_: those instructions are exactly what any of us would tell you to do
[04:03] <alucardromero> epimeth_: All user accounts
[04:04] <juan_> yeah but how do i install my headers? >_< whats a headers ? :O
[04:04] <juan_> i dont understand this >> Install your kernel headers <<<
[04:05] <alucardromero> Diarrhea rocks! :)
[04:05] <p_quarles> juan_, are you running Gutsy? if yes, which architecture?
[04:06] <juan_> p_quarles: iam running 7.1, ive got ..... uhhh i dont know... i586 i suppose..
[04:07] <p_quarles> juan_, what does uname -r say?
[04:07] <juan_> 2.6.22-14-generic
[04:07] <epimeth_> alucardromero: cat /etc/passwd
[04:07] <p_quarles> the package you want is: linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic
[04:08] <juan_> ohh thnks..
[04:17] <alucardromero> epimeth_: Thank YOU. :)
[04:19] <calcmandan> Trying to create a new gpg key with kgpg and it errored out.  The output is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6734/. Any ideas? Why permission denied?
[04:38] <epimeth_> calcmandan: what was the command you executed?
[04:39] <calcmandan> epimeth_: it was from kgpg. not from konsole.
[04:39] <epimeth_> oh
[04:39] <epimeth_> ummm
[04:39] <calcmandan> i thought maybe i needed to use kdesu to generate the key, but that didn;'t make sense.
[04:39] <epimeth_> dunno... are you rydan?
[04:40] <epimeth_> yea, it doesn't
[04:40] <calcmandan> yes, rydan is the computer.
[04:41] <epimeth_> the computer?
[04:41] <epimeth_> not the user?
[04:41] <calcmandan> well, i meant it's this computer.  rydan is the user.
[04:41] <calcmandan> hmm, maybe i need to add gpg group
[04:42] <epimeth_> it should probably have done that on install
[04:42] <calcmandan> nope.  no such group.
[04:42] <epimeth_> how did you install?
[04:42] <calcmandan> apt repo.
[04:43] <calcmandan> i wish i could've just downloaded my last public key before i wiped the drive.
[04:44] <epimeth_> you lost your private key?
[04:45] <calcmandan> i forgot to back it up.
[04:46] <epimeth_> ouch
[04:46] <calcmandan> anyway, one problem at a time. :)
[04:46] <epimeth_> anyway... try this maybe?
[04:46] <epimeth_> http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/wolves/2005-March/013019.html
[04:47] <calcmandan> Yeah saw that.
[04:47] <calcmandan> thanks
[04:47] <calcmandan> the description he gave the dude was exactly what i did to attempt creating a key pair.
[04:47] <calcmandan> and i didn't do it from root.
[04:47] <epimeth_> ahh
[04:48] <calcmandan> i figure if i need to, it would've prompted me to.
[04:48] <calcmandan> well, last time i did it from kommand.
[04:48] <epimeth_> look, I don't know anything about this program... have you tried using a cli tool?
[04:49] <calcmandan> i really do appreciate your suggestions.
[04:49] <rickey> my BMPx and amarok will not play radio streams ,it,s asking for decoders . what do i need
[04:49] <calcmandan> rickey: what radio streams are you trying to play?
[04:50] <rickey> just radio stations
[04:50] <calcmandan> some may use windows media codecs.
[04:51] <rickey> are there not speical ones for radio
[04:51] <calcmandan> depends on the station.
[04:51] <epimeth_> calcmandan: so why don't you do it from the cli?
[04:52] <rickey> what is cli?
[04:53] <calcmandan> epimeth_: I've never used it and frankly don't know what it is.
[04:53] <calcmandan> i will look it up though. right now.
[04:53] <calcmandan> oh duh
[04:53] <calcmandan> command likne
[04:53] <calcmandan> yeah, i used it the last time i greated my keypair.
[04:53] <calcmandan> i thought it'd be nice to use a nice gui tool for it and ensure everything happens.
[04:55] <calcmandan> epimeth_: accordijng to cli, i have no permission to access /home~/.gnupu. i ls'd it with sudo and it worked. i need to change permissions.
[04:56] <calcmandan> yeah it was owned by root.
[04:57] <calcmandan> so, as me I couldn't create a key because it wasn't root.
[04:57] <calcmandan> i changed user to me and it worked.  voila.
[04:57] <calcmandan> problem 2:
[04:57] <calcmandan> Running 1.4.8 in kubuntu 7.10 KDE 3.5.8.  As of today, I can't get a magnatunes list.  Any ideas?
[04:57] <calcmandan> amarok 1.4.8
[04:58] <flaccid> whats the kde program for making a cue sheet from an audio cd?
[04:58] <epimeth_> lol
[04:58] <epimeth_> should have asked you that, but it seemed too obvious :-)
[04:59] <calcmandan> yeah it was too obvious.  so obvious i didn't even bother looking.
[04:59] <epimeth_> sorry... dunno what magnatunes is... have you tried googling?
[04:59] <juan_> is there an easiest way of doing this?? >>if you have no sound, run dmesg and look for the string "snd_"<<
[05:02] <calcmandan> oh the office is on.
[05:07] <rickey> dose anyone know what decoder or codecs package i need to install , to listen to radio on amaork
[05:08] <pteague> bah... is there any way i can get get the kde menu editor to sort everything in alpha order on the name instead of alpha order on the description?  if i'm looking for abiword i don't want to be looking at the bottom of the list (Word Processor...)
[05:09] <juan_> i cannot get to install my hda intel sound.... anyone could help?
[05:09] <genii> !intelhda
[05:09] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[05:10] <juan_> i did that and still no sound..
[05:11] <rickey> can or will anyone help me out so i can listen to the radio  from amarok
[05:11] <rickey> it,s asking for decoders
[05:11] <genii> I'm only here briefly so cannot give extended help other than suggesting to retry the exact steps listed on the link. Remember if a kernel upgrade is done , you will need also to redo the instructions over
[05:11] <rickey> this is a new innnnstall
[05:12] <pteague> rickey> i usually have to double click the station in the play list a couple of times before it'll finally load the codec...
[05:14] <rickey> No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported.
[05:17] <pteague> !restricted
[05:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:18] <pteague> i believe you need to follow those instructions & like i said... i still have to sit there & double click the radio station several times in a row to get it to finally decide to load the codec... & yes, that's what i'm saying - i get that exact same message
[05:20] <n6rej> can anyone please tell me how I can make a user that can ftp into /var/www and upload files?
[05:20] <b4l74z4r> why do fonts look better in kde than in gnome, does it use a different way of rendering fonts?
[05:22] <rcg1984> I was installing something and Adept crash, now it's locked.  How do I unlock it?
[05:25] <NickPresta> !aptfix | rcg1984
[05:25] <ubotu> rcg1984: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[05:26] <rcg1984> Thanks!
[05:28] <n6rej> nobody?
[05:32] <mahesh> hi any one using eclipse pdt ??
[05:39] <calcmandan> Running Amarok 1.4.8 in kubuntu 7.10 KDE 3.5.8.  As of today, I can't get a magnatunes listing.  I went into magnatune's configuration directory and it is empty.  Any ideas?
[05:44] <greeg> hi
[05:45] <greeg> which in sources.list has all the illegal stuff?  multiverse or backports?
[05:45] <Boohbah> illegal stuff?
[05:47] <calcmandan> you mean restricted don't you?
[05:47] <calcmandan> otherwise, there isn't anything illegal in the repositories.
[05:50] <hydrogen> well
[05:50] <hydrogen> depends if you mean software that lets you do illagal things
[05:50] <hydrogen> :)
[05:51] <greeg> calcmandan: yes restricted
[05:51] <greeg> suchs as libdvdcss w32codecs etc...
[05:52] <calcmandan> just uncomment anything in sources.list.  update and do an apt-cache search.
[05:52] <calcmandan> i found it all here: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[05:53] <calcmandan> or, more specifically https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:00] <b4l74z4r> i tried out kubuntu kde4 8.04 beta and the whole thing seemed to be broken
[06:07] <DarkestHour> Does anyone know if there is an updated deb that i can use to get the newest version of VLC? the repositories are way out of day
[06:07] <DarkestHour> err, date
[06:08] <DarkestHour> think there would be a problem if i pull the deb from debian's repositories?
[06:12] <Jucato> DarkestHour: what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[06:13] <zeno_> Im trying to install java, ive tried sudo apt-get install -f, and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin, but niether work. heres apt output: http://pastebin.com/m497af469
[06:18] <rootlinuxusr> anybody know of a good program to convert wav to ogg or mp3?
[06:18] <rootlinuxusr> maybe command line?
[06:20] <Jucato> LAME perhaps? (although be warned... that's lossy to lossy conversion)
[06:20] <rootlinuxusr> that'd be the one i was trying to think of... xD
[06:20] <rootlinuxusr> lossy though?
[06:23] <flaccid> how to make cue sheets from an audio cd?
[06:25] <Jucato> rootlinuxusr: both OGG and MP3 are lossy formats
[06:25] <rootlinuxusr> true
[06:25]  * Jucato waves at flaccid, unfortunately doesn't know the answer...
[06:25] <rootlinuxusr> but it's better than the file size of .wav
[06:26] <flaccid> hehe
[06:26] <flaccid> hi Jucato
[06:26] <flaccid> long time no see
[06:26] <Jucato> if you have wav, then why not convert form wav to ogg directly?
[06:26] <Jucato> yeah flaccid, ltns!
[06:26] <flaccid> rootlinuxusr: the audiocd:// protocol is built in
[06:26] <hydrogen> I tend to use abcde myself
[06:26] <flaccid> rootlinuxusr: please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping#head-dccaf9e84d2ac4d5a52567d5a37d011ebb46285f
[06:26] <hydrogen> I really like it
[06:27] <rootlinuxusr> sweet, but what I have is a protools created .wav =]
[06:27] <hydrogen> it's a great cd ripping tool
[06:27] <hydrogen> you can use oggenc
[06:27] <flaccid> its all detailed @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[06:27] <hydrogen> to convert to ogg
[06:27] <flaccid> the wiki has all the info you need on this topic
[06:27] <rootlinuxusr> sweet, and thanks.
[06:27] <rootlinuxusr> =]
[06:27] <flaccid> np
[06:28] <eagles0513875> !soundkonverter
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundkonverter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <flaccid> use kaudiocreator
[06:29] <flaccid> i just need cue sheets heh
[06:30] <jon__> the icons from my notification area disappeared after having to restart X, how do i get them back?
[06:30] <Jucato> KDE 3?
[06:30] <jon__> gnome
[06:31] <Jucato> er.. #ubuntu please
[06:31] <jon__> konversation added its icon, but the battery meter and network manager icons are gone, i cannot get them back
[06:32] <flaccid> Jucato: um its weird i can't find something to create cue sheets
[06:32] <Jucato> flaccid: I really wouldn't know.. sorry... no idea about ripping except paper :/
[06:32] <Jucato> jon__: um... this is #kubuntu though... for KDE...
[06:32] <rootlinuxusr> && gas
[06:32] <flaccid> well its not really ripping but yeah
[06:33] <jon__> oh, how did i end up here, i thought i joined the ubuntu one
[06:33] <rootlinuxusr> xD
[06:34] <DarkestHour> Jucato: Just saw your reply, i am using 7.10
[06:34] <Jucato> jon__: fate
[06:34] <Jucato> DarkestHour: in a few days (or a week), 8.04 will be released, with an updated version of VLC
[06:35] <Jucato> I think that would be better than mixing packages from Debian
[06:35] <Jucato> unless it's a generic .deb package
[06:35] <DarkestHour> ahh ok, i'll wait for it then, at that point i'm gonna reformat my system for it anyways.
[06:36] <DarkestHour> oh, any idea if they are gonna release a kubuntu remix DVD? i noticed they only had a CD for the beta.
[06:36] <Jucato> that I don't know.. but I'm guessing both KDE 3 and KDE 4 would be on the DVD...
[06:38] <DarkestHour> i hope so, i'm using kde 4 now and it's great! i havent had any problems with it.
[07:02] <ubuntu> installing grub to get back kubuntu to work after windows install.. any one help!!!
[07:02] <eddieftw> !grub
[07:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:02] <eddieftw> ubuntu: check out the ubotu links
[07:03] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: u still having error 15
[07:04] <ubuntu> eddieftw: thanks
[07:04] <eagles0513875> ubuntu: is this that error 15 issue ur having
[07:07] <eagles0513875> !virtualbox
[07:07] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[07:08] <ubuntu> eddieftw: #grub> /boot/grub/stage1 is giving some error.. not file foound
[07:10] <therealpxc> hey
[07:13] <Claybrain145> Hey
[07:27] <eagles0513875> how do i change my default browser from konquerer to firefox
[07:27] <ubunturos> eagles0513875: firefox might give you an option to do so
[07:28] <Claybrain145> install firefox?
[07:28] <Jucato> eagles0513875: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser?
[07:28] <eagles0513875> thanks guys
[07:28] <ubunturos> eagles0513875: Edit -> Preferences -> System Defaults, when you open Firefox
[07:28] <Jucato> ubunturos: might not affect KDE apps actually
[07:29] <Jucato> eagles0513875: take note that will only affect KDE apps. non-KDE apps have to set Firefox as the default themselves, or you can do it system wide using /etc/alternatives
[07:29] <ubunturos> Jucato: yes, true
[07:29] <Jucato> sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[07:29] <eagles0513875> ok
[07:29] <jazzles> how do you get unbanned from an irc channel?
[07:29] <Jucato> jazzles: talk to the ops of that channel
[07:30] <Jucato> different channels, different policies
[07:30] <eagles0513875> jazzles: what channel u get banned rom
[07:30] <jazzles> i don't even know why i was banned to begin with, i was afk
[07:30] <jazzles> #sabayon
[07:30]  * Jucato shrugs
[07:31] <ds_> Hello
[07:31] <ds_> Can someone help me
[07:31] <ds_> hello?
[07:32] <Claybrain145> depends what you need help with
[07:32] <ubunturos> !ask | ds
[07:32] <ubotu> ds: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:32] <Claybrain145> ?
[07:32] <ds_> Fine
[07:33] <ds_> I'm having trouble installing Gutsy
[07:33] <ds_> Because
[07:33] <ds_> I/O error, disc read error....but I've tried many discs and a good source for download
[07:33] <ds_> I read something about maybe fixing the Windows MBR or something
[07:33] <ds_> with super grub
[07:33] <ds_> Am I in the wrong direction?
[07:34] <Claybrain145> is this a fresh install, or are your trying to dual boot between windows and kubuntu?
[07:34] <ds_> fresh
[07:34] <eagles0513875> and is it vista or xp cuz if its vista i read u have to install it after u install the linux os
[07:34] <ds_> btw, I'm using my dual boot computer, next to the other computer...so, you can walk me through anything
[07:34] <ds_> xp
[07:34] <ds_> SP2
[07:35] <ubunturos> Jucato: were you using Debian GNU/Linux before Kubuntu?
[07:35] <ds_> No SP
[07:35] <ds_> actually
[07:35] <eagles0513875> thats interesting i had xp duel boot never had any issues
[07:35]  * Claybrain145 is out of the conversation due to carbon based error.
[07:35] <ds_> the prob isnt with the dual boot comp
[07:35] <Jucato> ubunturos: no. Kubuntu was my first GNU/Linux distro
[07:35] <eagles0513875> ds_: oh
[07:35] <ds_> its with the other comp with only Xp on it, I want to whipe and go ubuntu
[07:35] <ds_> and it's amd64
[07:36] <ds_> this comp isn't
[07:37] <ds_> Any ideas
[07:38] <ds_> I've loaded super grub to repaid MBR but, can't even find the option to
[07:38] <ds_> If I should
[07:44] <Claybrain145> ds_ - have you tried burning on a different manufacturer media?  EG instead of memorex, try verbatim or sony?
[07:45] <Claybrain145> different CD-RW drives like different kinds of media over others, or so I've noticed.
[07:47] <Claybrain145> or you could always try ordering a copy: https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
[08:22] <eagles0513875> what is up everyone
[08:32] <mefisto__> can anyone recommend an online tutorial for regular expressions?
[08:32] <elena__> sal
[08:32] <elena__> all
[08:35] <Claybrain145> mefisto_ - for bash?
[08:36] <mefisto__> Claybrain145: sure, anything will do. I'm sick of not understanding the first thing about it
[08:36] <Claybrain145> http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/
[08:37] <Claybrain145> basic google search revealed: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/01/learn-how-to-use-regular-expressions.html
[08:38] <Claybrain145> http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/tao_of_regular_expressions/
[08:39] <Claybrain145> http://www.regular-expressions.info/
[08:39] <Claybrain145> not to mention the many many linux websites and books available...
[08:39] <mefisto__> thanks Claybrain145 !
[08:44] <Claybrain145> ohh nice... I got Xchat working
[08:44] <Claybrain145> that was easier than I thought it'd be
[08:44] <ubuntu> anyone alive in here?
[08:44] <Claybrain145> no.
[08:44] <Jucato> nope
[08:44] <Claybrain145> no one here
[08:44] <ubuntu> dam it
[08:44] <Claybrain145> perhaps you should look at the other battlestar.
[08:44] <ubuntu> man this kubuntu live demo is pretty good
[08:45] <Claybrain145> I'm sure it looks even better if you are drunk.
[08:45] <TheDrunkenMaster> pretty colors everywhere
[08:45] <TheDrunkenMaster> the gnmoe version doesn't look this nice
[08:46] <TheDrunkenMaster> althought still nice
[08:46] <Claybrain145> funny...  skipped gnome and went straight to KDE.
[08:46] <TheDrunkenMaster> give it a try
[08:46] <TheDrunkenMaster> get virtual Box
[08:46] <TheDrunkenMaster> great progii
[08:46] <Claybrain145> I already got that...  I was going to install some edition of MS Windows
[08:47] <TheDrunkenMaster> hmm yeah
[08:47] <Claybrain145> then again, I have wine....
[08:47] <TheDrunkenMaster> i really only got it so i can switch between ubuntu, kubuntu, suse and red hat
[08:47] <TheDrunkenMaster> trying to figure out which one i wanna go with
[08:47] <Claybrain145> I've been meaning to install Red Hat...
[08:47] <Claybrain145> or RHEL
[08:48] <TheDrunkenMaster> the latest version is pretty good
[08:48] <Claybrain145> what about CentOS?
[08:48] <TheDrunkenMaster> never heard of it to be honest
[08:48] <TheDrunkenMaster> worth looking into?
[08:48] <Claybrain145> sorry, I'm still fairly new to this thing called linux...
[08:48] <TheDrunkenMaster> oh yeah
[08:48] <Claybrain145> so I've heard
[08:48] <TheDrunkenMaster> don't sweat it
[08:49] <Claybrain145> I've dabbed with Linux in MS Virtual Machine...
[08:49] <TheDrunkenMaster> at least you don't have to type commands or worry about dependencies
[08:49] <eagles0513875> Claybrain145: then u would love my website im working on putting together how to's for people like u lol
[08:49] <TheDrunkenMaster> geat idea eagles
[08:49] <eagles0513875> simplfied how to's for those who r new to linux i can link ya if ur interested.
[08:49] <Claybrain145> thanks
[08:49] <TheDrunkenMaster> would like to check it out myself
[08:49] <eagles0513875> only thing thats working is the forum u have to sign up for both
[08:49] <Claybrain145> I've been using Kubuntu for about 3 weeks and I already have most of the GUI down
[08:49] <eagles0513875> http://howtokubuntu.x10hosting.com
[08:49] <Claybrain145> started getting into some of the commands in Konsole..
[08:50] <Claybrain145> working my way through that.
[08:50] <eagles0513875> kool im working on getting linux certified kubuntu is my distro of choice
[08:50] <Claybrain145> are you getting the CompTIA cert?
[08:51] <eagles0513875> no lpi(linux professional institute) cert
[08:51] <TheDrunkenMaster> just registered
[08:51] <Claybrain145> I've been to this website before...
[08:51] <eagles0513875> relaly lol
[08:51] <eagles0513875> well its mine lol
[08:51] <TheDrunkenMaster> lol
[08:51] <Jucato> !offtopic btw,
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopic btw, - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <Jucato> !offtopic
[08:51] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:51] <eagles0513875> sry jucato
[08:51] <Claybrain145> well I might have another question for you...
[08:51] <Claybrain145> brb
[08:51] <eagles0513875> join off topic guys
[08:53] <eagles0513875> Jucato: im having issues creating root password with mysql
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[09:00] <Claybrain145> WTF?
[09:00] <eagles0513875> !op
[09:00] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!
[09:00] <Jucato> eagles0513875: done already
[09:00] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:00] <eagles0513875> sry
[09:01] <eagles0513875> Jucato: i need some help with mysql im trying to create a root passwd and i keep getting an error when issuing the command mysql -u root
[09:01] <romunov> i need an application that is able to draw  flow charts
[09:01] <eagles0513875> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[09:01] <Odd-rationale> romunov: oo draw?
[09:01] <Jucato> romunov: Kivio, Dia
[09:02] <dejx> hello, i did "sudo password root" and change my root password. Now, i'm logged into X session with my normal user, and lets say i want to adjust time and clock, The system ask me for my root password, and non of my passwords work, Not root's, not user's
[09:02] <Jucato> eagles0513875: sorry, I'm not really knowledgeable with databases.. you can try asking in #mysql though
[09:02] <romunov> Odd-rationale: i think draw can draw boxes and arrows, but i need something that will keep two boxes connected when i move them around
[09:02] <eagles0513875> ok i read on the help pg something bout not supporting php4 or5 or something and them being removed
[09:02] <Mez> eagles0513875, dealt with
[09:02] <Jucato> [16:01] <Jucato> romunov: Kivio, Dia
[09:03] <eagles0513875> Mez sry to bother ya
[09:03] <Mez> eagles0513875, no problem, they went for three of the channels so we caught it elsewhere
[09:05] <romunov> Jucato: thanks, i'll give it a try
[09:05] <clau30> dejx: seems like you logged on as root user...
[09:05] <dejx> No in X session i'm logged as normal user
[09:05] <eagles0513875> Mez: didnt realize jucato took care of it
[09:05] <Jucato> eagles0513875: I didin't :)
[09:05] <Jucato> but it was taken care of :)
[09:05] <eagles0513875> lol ok
[09:05] <eagles0513875> lol then that was operator error on my end lol
[09:08] <ste> salve
[09:09] <eagles0513875> does anyone know how to start mysql cuz nobody wants to help me in that room
[09:10] <eagles0513875> start the mysql server that is
[09:10] <eagles0513875> brb need to reset my switch
[09:11] <romunov> openoffice can do flowcharts pretty nicely, too. the tool to use is "connector"
[09:13] <clau30> eagles0513875: /etc/init.d/mysql start or smtg like that
[09:13] <pato> Hi guys, sorry for my english. I have one question. I have installed KDE4 but i have still KDE3.5.9 in Kubuntu 8.04. If i want to using only KDE4, what do i do? Uninstall KDE3.5.9 with synaptic ? thanks for your help
[09:13] <eagles0513875> clau30: ty
[09:13] <clau30> eagles0513875: with sudo of course :)
[09:15] <eagles0513875> clau30: im getting this error ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[09:15] <eagles0513875> clau30: not that one this one
[09:15] <eagles0513875> start: Unknown job: /etc/init.d/mysql
[09:15] <clau30> try mysqld instead of mysql
[09:16] <eagles0513875> clau30: not working either
[09:17] <clau30> why?
[09:17] <eagles0513875> start: Unknown job: /etc/init.d/mysqld
[09:19] <eagles0513875> clau30: im goin to restart my machine
[09:23] <chull> eagles0513875, nice to meet you :)
[09:24] <eagles0513875> chull: ? back at ya
[09:24] <chull> my husband and i are trying to do *something* to his xorg.conf .. he can't talk so i don't know exactly.
[09:25] <chull> if i paste it to a pastebin could someone look at it and tell me?
[09:26] <clau30> chull: paste it and then you/we'll see .)
[09:26] <Ayabara> are there kde4-versions of kopete and kate?
[09:27] <jpatrick> Ayabara: kopete-kde4 and kate-kde4
[09:27] <Ayabara> jpatrick: ahhh. thanks. gotta install those then :-)
[09:28] <Ayabara> I have installed kde4 on my hardy system. is there a clever apt-get line I can do to get all the *-kde4 applications as well?
[09:29] <jpatrick> Ayabara: I think "kde4" will pull them all in
[09:29] <Ayabara> jpatrick: it sure pulled a lot of stuff in :-)
[09:29] <chalzedony> chalxedony
[09:30] <chalxedony> chull's wife on laptop
[09:30] <clau30> !kde4 | Ayabara
[09:30] <ubotu> Ayabara: KDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[09:30] <eagles0513875> wooooooo mysql is broked
[09:31] <chalxedony> he seems to be experimenting with renaming the mouse in the conf
[09:31] <chalxedony> we were looking at trackpads..
[09:31] <Ayabara> and the last question. I'm starting to be quite happy with kde4, so I would like to remove kde3 and corresponding apps from my system. is that easily accomplished?
[09:31] <eagles0513875> clau30: that didnt help anything
[09:31] <eagles0513875> !mysql
[09:31] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[09:31] <clau30> eagles0513875: don't really understand the error you're getting
[09:32] <eagles0513875> this is the original error i was getting
[09:32] <eagles0513875> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[09:33] <emilsedgh> you havent mysql server running eagles0513875
[09:33] <eagles0513875> emilsedgh: whats the command that starts it
[09:33] <emilsedgh> try installing mysql-serveR: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[09:34] <emilsedgh> and if you have it, you need to run it: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[09:34] <eagles0513875> thats messed up if thats a dependency shouldnt it dl the server side of things as well
[09:35] <eagles0513875> emilsedgh: thanks for ur help
[09:39] <eagles0513875> !kexi
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kexi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <jpatrick> !info kexi
[09:39] <ubotu> kexi (source: koffice): integrated database environment for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-0ubuntu5.1 (gutsy), package size 3548 kB, installed size 11032 kB
[09:39] <chull> eagles0513875, here is what he's working on:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62813/
[09:39] <eagles0513875> thanks j
[09:40] <eagles0513875> chull:  lol im still a noob when it comes to understanding the intrecacis of linux lol
[09:40] <chalxedony> eagles0513875 everyone is..
[09:40] <chalxedony> it's pretty hard to know EVERYTHING ;)
[09:41] <eagles0513875> me more then anything
[09:42] <chull> our son is who knows.. but he moved to texas
[09:42] <chull> we muddle along
[09:42] <eagles0513875> ?
[09:42] <chull> eagles0513875, he met Linus and friends when he was about 10 ..
[09:43] <eagles0513875> thats kool
[09:43] <eagles0513875> chull: this is kinda off topic channel material lol
[09:43] <chull> really.. i thought it was Linux
[09:43] <eagles0513875> ya but this is the kubuntu support channel
[09:44] <chull> since we are waiting for somebody to come along who knows xorg.conf in kubuntu..
[09:44] <eagles0513875> chull: what exactly u trying to do with it
[09:44] <eagles0513875> enable open gl
[09:44] <chull> and can identify the problem and help us work toward configuring the trackball
[09:45] <eagles0513875> lol i cant help there i can help with ur open gl issue
[09:45] <chull> eagles0513875 i have no idea what my husband is doing.. is THAT open gl
[09:45] <chull> ?
[09:46] <eagles0513875> open gl is the linux equivalent of direct x
[09:46] <chull> eagles0513875, can you put it in baby words please?
[09:46] <Jucato> yes and no... OpenGL is cross platform
[09:46] <chull> greetings Jucato :)
[09:46] <Jucato> hello
[09:47] <mefisto__> chull: don't know if it helps but my logitech mouse (not trackball) is using "evdev" instead of "mouse" in the Driver line
[09:47] <chull> Jucato, maybe you can help me figure out how to help my husband with whatever he pasted?
[09:47] <Jucato> looking at it...
[09:48] <chull> thank you Jucato, mefisto__ maybe you can look too?
[09:49] <chull> greetings lufthanza
[09:49] <Jucato> oh wait.. trackball? er.. sorry.. no idea about trackballs
[09:50] <lufthanza> hi
[09:50] <chull> i know we were looking at touchpads at the store.. and trackballs..
[09:50] <mefisto__> is your specific trackball model mentioned in the ubuntu forum page you're following?
[09:51] <chull> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=169423&highlight=left+right+mouse+buttons+scroll  ?
[10:00] <sdevillard> hello
[10:04] <chull> wb eagles0513875 :)
[10:05] <chull> now he's saying he wants to install a ps2 mouse, because his usb mouse keeps crashing at odd times
[10:05] <chull> he's got a LOT of usb plugs and wiring
[10:06] <chull> a lot of ports, too
[10:06] <eagles0513875> im using a wireless usb mouse and its working fine
[10:07] <chull> he can't remember very well since his stroke.. everything needs a cord to be able to find it
[10:07] <chull> i wish his tv remote had a beeper like the phone
[10:08] <dromer> hmm, somehow I can't play sound on video-files anymore (mplayer says Device or Resource busy, vlc gives oss audio output error: cannot open audio device)
[10:09] <chull> dromer, on what?
[10:09] <chull> i *used* to get that a long time ago.. before i upgraded to edgy
[10:09] <dromer> eh, Gutsy I think
[10:09] <mefisto__> dromer: does this fix it: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[10:10] <eagles0513875> chull: what version u using edgy feisty what
[10:10] <dromer> mefisto__: nope: [AO_ALSA] Playback open error: Device or resource busy
[10:10] <chull> eagles0513875, my husband has gutsy kubuntu .. my personal computer is edgy
[10:10] <dromer> I can play music btw (mpd)
[10:11] <chull> edgy ubuntu .. i like gnome deskto
[10:11] <chull> p
[10:11] <eagles0513875> ok and he is having issues with his mouse
[10:11] <mefisto__> dromer: are any audio-capable programs running?
[10:11] <eagles0513875> booo lol
[10:11] <dromer> mefisto__: mpd
[10:11] <eagles0513875> how do i get rid of the splash screen during start up and shutdown
[10:11] <chull> eagles0513875, i guess he says he gets 3 months out of them and then they crash
[10:12] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:12] <eagles0513875> he needs to stick to one mouse lol
[10:12] <chull> mine seem to do pretty ok .. but if the cats spill milk into them it kind of ... isn't good.
[10:12] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:12] <eagles0513875> r both machines on surge protectors
[10:13] <chull> eagles0513875, you bet!
[10:13] <chull> i really hate reopening all those vim files
[10:13] <eagles0513875> it could be that a spike in electricity that surge protectors wont protectu again might have friend his ps2 and usb ports at least someofthem
[10:13] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:13] <eagles0513875> chull: i wanna get rid of the splash screen during startup and boot how do i do that
[10:14] <chalxedony> eagles0513875 i dunno ill take a look
[10:14] <dromer> so, no ideas on my sound prob? :/
[10:14] <Jucato> eagles0513875: which splash screen? bootsplash or ksplash?
[10:14] <eagles0513875> chalxedony: thanks
[10:14] <eagles0513875> the boot splash the kubuntu one that comes up
[10:15] <Jucato> eagles0513875: remove the "splash" option in /boot/grub/menu.lst for the kernel that you boot into
[10:15] <eagles0513875> i was looking for grub just forgot where it was lol
[10:15] <eagles0513875> ty Jucato
[10:16] <Jucato> you might want to remove "quiet" as well, so that you can see the boot messages
[10:16] <eagles0513875> ya thats what i want
[10:17] <eagles0513875> Jucato: in regards to hardy have u encountered any random short lockups while using hardy
[10:17] <mefisto__> eagles0513875: or you could leave the splash in there and add "verbose" - that will show the spash with feedback about what's happening during boot
[10:17] <dhq> hey guys
[10:18] <Jucato> eagles0513875: I'm not using Hardy... you might want to try asking in #ubuntu+1
[10:18] <eagles0513875> mefisto__: k thanks
[10:18] <eagles0513875> Jucato: ok
[10:18] <dhq> well can u tell me why kopette doesnt load msn accounts
[10:18] <eagles0513875> for me it does
[10:18] <Jucato> mefisto__: hopefully the boot messages will appear at a correct/proper place :)
[10:18] <chalxedony> eagles0513875 Jucato that's what i just found
[10:19] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:19] <Jucato> mefisto__: last time I removed "quiet" and left "splash", the boot messages sort of "broke" the bootsplash layout... writing all over the plaace
[10:19] <Jucato> (that was back in feisty though...)
[10:19] <mefisto__> Jucato: works nicely for me. the boot msgs are below the kubuntu logo
[10:20] <Jucato> ah good, seems they have fixed it
[10:20] <eagles0513875> damn this suxs winblows vista is suxing up all the bandwith to dl update
[10:20] <eagles0513875> s
[10:20] <eagles0513875> brb goin to restart and see if boot msgs work
[10:22] <pat5star> help plz...I installed sp1 and my computer exploded
[10:23] <pat5star> anyone?
[10:23] <stdin> pat5star: unless you want to be banned, behave
[10:23] <clau30> pat5star: buy another one
[10:23] <pat5star> I have vista home, and downloaded sp1 like it said, but then my computer blew up
[10:23] <clau30> !ban | pat5star
[10:23] <ubotu> pat5star: If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable !behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable !behaviour is please see !Etiquette and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines - If you think the ban was a mistake, please join #ubuntu-ops
[10:23] <stdin> bah, I can't be bothered with you
[10:24] <jpatrick> again?
[10:26] <Ayabara> how can I get a decent look for my thunderbird and firefox in kde4?
[10:26] <Jucato> Ayabara: you can ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[10:26] <Jucato> I think a gtk-kde4 engine is available
[10:27] <Ayabara> Jucato: that's a good start :-)
[10:36] <amerigo> !lcd
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <Dud3> Wanna be an IRC OP? ---> http://white.hopto.org/ http://white.hopto.org/ http://white.hopto.org/
[10:41] <neville_> Where abouts do I get help with Compiz Fusion?
[10:41] <emilsedgh> Jucato: do you have a little time? i just need to know things done in hardy-kde4, not with details, could you help me?
[10:41] <emilsedgh> neville_: #compiz i think
[10:41] <binarical-app> can someone sujest an absolut beginner programming language , preferably with free resouces
[10:42] <neville_> Okay thank you
[10:43] <emilsedgh> binarical-app: python is easy and usefull in real world, give it a try
[10:43] <mosez> python is nice... and google makes something for it too :P http://code.google.com/appengine/
[10:44] <binarical-app> thanks  emilsedgh
[10:44] <binarical-app> and mosez
[10:44] <binarical-app> python it is
[10:44] <mosez> :)
[11:01] <ubuntu> stdin for external hdd in fat 32
[11:02] <stdin> then use "sudo fsck -t vfat /dev/sd??", make sure it's not mounted and replace "sd??" with the disk name and partition number, eg "sdb1"
[11:03] <ubuntu> my keyboard drop on my hdd n im trying to get back wqt i can by using linux xp just killing me
[11:07] <ubuntu> stdin i did they told me to chose 1 2 or 3 i did 2 witch is Copy backup to original then i got Got 655360 bytes instead of 30631484 at 16384.is that bad news
[11:07] <stdin> depends, it may be ok
[11:09] <ubuntu> im going to mount it to see if my stuff is there hopefully cause i dont want to lose 250gig of data
[11:11] <ubuntu> no luck
[11:12] <ubuntu> tanks anyway stdin for helping
[11:12] <ubuntu> bye
[11:13] <knulfine> hi - what's the german channel?
[11:13] <stdin> !de
[11:13] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:13] <knulfine> thanks
[11:43] <binarical-app> what is the kubuntu equivilant to "kill" or windows task manager
[11:43] <binarical-app> where do i find it
[11:45]  * binarical-app cant use apt-get since there is another process blocking it. he cant see anz visual confermation of this assumption, therefor must find the process thats hoggin the application........any help here ....anyone ?
[11:46] <SlimeyPete> !apt
[11:46] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:46] <SlimeyPete> rm
[11:46] <SlimeyPete> erm
[11:46] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix
[11:46] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:47]  * binarical-app apt-get ed his kubuntu from gnomes ubuntu, his mulitple desktops arent functioning the way they usually do. as such he cant see applications running on alternative desktops
[11:47] <SlimeyPete> and to list process do "ps -aux" in a terminal and then type "kill <process id>"; if it's a graphical application you can just press ctrl-alt-esc and click on the window to kill it
[11:47] <luke_> h¡ guys!
[11:47] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[11:48] <binarical-app> thanks slimey
[11:49] <Coggz> how do ¡ d¡sable comp¡z?
[11:50] <binarical-app> Coggz: i think you might be experiancing some stuff with compizes fancyness
[11:50] <binarical-app> stuff like blue screens and so forth on ... multymedia apps?
[11:50] <Klassniy> http://white.hopto.org/ http://white.hopto.org/ http://white.hopto.org/
[11:50]  * jpatrick was read
[11:51] <jpatrick> -y*
[11:51] <Coggz> ?¡ just want to disable ¡t
[11:51] <binarical-app> to never again be used? : apt-get remove compiz*
[11:52] <Coggz> undo the compiz --replace command
[11:53] <SlimeyPete> I think you can just log out to get rid of it
[11:53] <SlimeyPete> if you ran the replace command manually
[11:53] <binarical-app> Coggz: why dont you just deslect all your compiz config options in the ui
[11:54] <Coggz> ?
[11:54] <binarical-app> *user interface
[11:54] <jussi01> Coggz: kwin --replace
[11:54] <Coggz> ¡ get that,but how?
[11:55] <Coggz> ah
[11:55] <binarical-app> the program listed in your menu, "advanced desktop settings" . open it and every where there is an X click to remove the X
[11:55] <binarical-app> most of the porblems will be with the cube and stuff like transperancy
[11:56] <binarical-app> , other stuff might not be nesseccarily removed
[11:56] <Coggz> Sorry for slowness, ¡'m writ¡ng with a pen
[11:56] <binarical-app> np
[11:56] <binarical-app> thats original
[11:56] <Coggz> tablet pc
[11:56] <binarical-app> ....not so :P
[11:57] <Coggz> ¡m getting quite fast
[11:57] <Coggz> when | try
[11:57] <eagles0513875> Coggz: what type of tablet u got
[11:57] <eagles0513875> i have an hp tablet tx1308nr and kubuntu refuses to install on it
[11:58] <binarical-app> i wanted to do that to my i phone
[11:58] <Coggz> Ácer c110
[11:58] <eagles0513875> and u got kubuntu installed on it
[11:58] <|Cannon|> oops
[11:58] <eagles0513875> O_o
[11:58] <eagles0513875> cannon broked it
[11:58] <eagles0513875> :p
[11:58] <|Cannon|> lol
[11:58] <Coggz> http://tuxmobil.org/tablet_unix.html
[11:59] <Coggz> there are guides
[11:59] <eagles0513875> im too lazy to stay having to config everythign by hand lol
[12:00] <|Cannon|> how do I configure menu's
[12:00] <eagles0513875> im just going to wait a while anyway i have my old  laptop which is my r&d machine
[12:00] <|Cannon|> k menu
[12:00] <Coggz> YaY! kw¡n worked!
[12:00] <eagles0513875> what program will play mpgs format clips or vids
[12:00] <|Cannon|> kaffiene
[12:01] <eagles0513875> ewwww
[12:01] <Coggz> Yea kaff¡ene
[12:01] <eagles0513875> anything else lol
[12:01] <|Cannon|> lol
[12:01] <|Cannon|> not good enough for ya? :P
[12:01] <Coggz> mplayer
[12:01] <Coggz> duh
[12:01] <jussi01> eagles0513875: vlc
[12:01] <jussi01> !players
[12:01] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[12:02] <eagles0513875> Coggz: i have been off of kubuntu for quite some time so i forgot whats aroun
[12:03] <Coggz> ah, ¡m writing so fast my arm aches!
[12:03] <|Cannon|> lol
[12:03] <binarical-app> take your time, we all multitask
[12:03] <|Cannon|> hows jussi01 today?
[12:05] <Coggz> lol!,
[12:06] <eagles0513875> anyone a linux networking buff
[12:07] <Coggz> ok, not me
[12:08] <binarical-app> what are you trying to do
[12:08] <brubelsabs> hi, how to disable kdetv autostart each login?
[12:09] <Coggz> how much u pay for yourtabtet?
[12:11] <brubelsabs> Coggz: did you asked me?
[12:12] <Coggz> whoever has a tablet pc
[12:13] <binarical-app> mine is an i phone, i dont think that counts as a pc tablet tho, more likr a pda
[12:14] <Coggz> hmm, ya... i got my acer dirt cheap
[12:15] <eagles0513875> Coggz: with a 1gb to 2gb ram upgrade 1,000 usd 12.4 inch screen 160gb sata drive duel layer dvd burner with lightscribe the icky windows vista home premium which i chunked cuz it was buggy beyyong belief an amd turion x2 1.9ghz processor nvidia 6150graphics card and chipset hd audio and i can even render hd video with it
[12:15] <brubelsabs> Coggz: a colleague of mine had one... for 1,600 €
[12:16] <Coggz> bl¡mey... £150
[12:16] <Coggz> =$300
[12:26] <chi_> hi all, in kcontrol in file-association  under mp3 amarok is listed!  the command amerok uses is "amarok "
[12:26] <chi_> what does it mean?
[12:27] <Coggz> that ¡s the command used to open amarok
[12:28] <chi_> so when i start a LINK from firefox ... is this command executed?
[12:29] <tomars35> amarok
[12:29] <chi_> from within KDE?
[12:30] <Coggz> ?what do you mean by LINK
[12:31] <chi_> shoutcast.com like
[12:31] <Dr_willis> I like shoutcast :)
[12:31] <Coggz> oh, not exactly
[12:32] <chi_> well i mean, i got a normal internet_connection and a second one via a "ssh -D" call to a special port
[12:32] <chi_> i want to add for all system calls of amarok to connect to this special port
[12:33] <|Cannon|> hey guys ... whats best to use to allow linux and windows to access the same drive ... a windows driver for ext3 or ntfs-3g for linux?
[12:33] <Dr_willis> |Cannon|,  err.. both?
[12:34] <|Cannon|> lol
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> lo all
[12:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:34] <Dr_willis> The issue with the ifs thing for ext2 under windows is that if windows crashes it CAN goofup the linux filesystem
[12:34] <Dr_willis> and it tends to get permissions/ownerships rather 'open'
[12:34] <|Cannon|> :O
[12:35] <Dr_willis> ntfs-3g seems to work very well for me under linux. :)
[12:35] <|Cannon|> well at the mo my downloads drive is fat32
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> |Cannon|: good call
[12:35] <Dr_willis> each has issues.. depends on your needs. and what you are doing.
[12:35] <|Cannon|> is there any performance loss with fat32 though?
[12:35] <|Cannon|> like slower to read, write, etc?
[12:35] <Dr_willis> it will be slower then ext2/3 - but proberly not noticeable.
[12:36] <|Cannon|> well they are sata's so they should be pretty good
[12:36] <|Cannon|> i was told earlier that you NEVER have to defrag an ext3! :P
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> |Cannon|: correct
[12:36] <|Cannon|> i was amazed! :P
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> well it makes a whole lot of sense
[12:37] <zeno_> Im trying to install java, ive tried sudo apt-get install -f, and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin, but niether work. heres apt output: http://pastebin.com/m497af469
[12:37] <Dr_willis> You can defrag ext2/3 but really you dont need to.
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> the disk access is random as it is a multiple user environment so contiguous files doesnt make sense
[12:37] <|Cannon|> ahhh
[12:37] <Coggz> What kwin themes do u all use?
[12:37] <Dr_willis> of course  you could proberly purpously fragment stuff., to degrade preformace
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Coggz: default
[12:38] <Dr_willis> Coggz,  Plastik. :)
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> !java | zeno
[12:38] <ubotu> zeno: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[12:38] <Coggz> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/%27CylonMinimal%27+Window+Decoration+for+KDE?content=51993
[12:39] <Coggz> what u think?
[12:39] <Dr_willis> I think you should use what YOU like. :) and not worry about others..
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Coggz: looks fine
[12:39] <Dr_willis> heh
[12:40] <Coggz> well, just wondering about favourites, can remember what i use on my other lappy
[12:41] <|Cannon|> any chance you are a sci-fi fan Coggz? lol
[12:41] <Coggz> no
[12:41] <Coggz> just like the simplicity
[12:41] <Coggz> kinda slick...
[12:41] <cannon> just realised I am logged in twice :P
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> me too, hence default theme
[12:42] <|Cannon|> better :)
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> and none of this compiz stuff either, or cube stuff
[12:42]  * |Cannon| turns on the rain :)
[12:43] <Coggz> i have the cube on my mandriva box,
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> |Cannon|: you tried touse your syste when thats going. makes me vomit :)
[12:43] <|Cannon|> "touse your syste" ??? lol
[12:44] <|Cannon|> i only understand Engrish :P
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> my mandriva box doesnt have x. all ssh config  :)
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> touse == to use
[12:44] <|Cannon|> ah, i see
[12:44] <|Cannon|> nah, i like it
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> |Cannon|: that site is hilarious!
[12:44] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: im back lol
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: congrats
[12:44] <Coggz> i loved it... but i want kubuntu on it
[12:44] <|Cannon|> what site? lol
[12:45] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: lol im glad to be back my other laptop is way to new and kubuntu dont wanna work for me on it
[12:45] <eagles0513875> anway need a sank
[12:45] <Coggz> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[12:45] <eagles0513875> *snak
[12:45] <Coggz> whatdoes that mean
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Coggz: do you have xlibs installed?
[12:46] <Coggz> dunno, are they default?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: what messages do you get ?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Coggz: just try install them with apt-get it'll let you know
[12:47] <Coggz> no, xlibs is not available, no installation candidate
[12:47] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: i can install with the alternate cd of hardy when i come to boot for the first time it hangs on loading hardware devices
[12:47] <eagles0513875> i got this laptop back in december
[12:47] <Coggz> i need it
[12:47] <eagles0513875> Coggz: apt-cache search for it
[12:47] <eagles0513875> ill brb
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: you tried turning off acpi or dma?
[12:48] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: ya same thing
[12:48] <Coggz> libxsharp0 - DotGNU X11# libraries OR xlibs-data - transitional package for X11 client data
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: and how about defaulting your biosto as slim as possible
[12:49] <Coggz> which do i want?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> !xlibs
[12:49] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following package: xorg-dev
[12:49] <Coggz> cool
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Coggz: the bot knows a lot
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> !coffee
[12:50] <ubotu> coffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java
[12:50] <|Cannon|> lol, it does
[12:50]  * |Cannon| spanks ActionParsnip (and I spank a lot! :P)
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> oh cheeky ;)
[12:51] <|Cannon|> always
[12:51] <Coggz> !tea
[12:51] <|Cannon|> lol
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tea - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <Coggz> AAGH
[12:51] <|Cannon|> lol
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !botabuse
[12:51] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !itsbroken
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about itsbroken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !broken
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> screw it
[12:51] <Coggz> !screw it
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screw it - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <|Cannon|> lol
[12:51] <Coggz> lol
[12:51] <Coggz> !#
[12:52]  * |Cannon| senses trouble
[12:52] <Coggz> why is nothing happening?
[12:52] <Coggz> !#
[12:52] <Coggz> !#
[12:52] <Coggz> !?
[12:53] <Pici> !botabuse | Coggz stop
[12:53] <ubotu> Coggz stop: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Coggz: you ask it about an app usually
[12:53] <Coggz> ooh. lol, ubotu spanked me
[12:53] <|Cannon|> told ya so
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> !firefox
[12:53] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:53] <Coggz> !cellwriter
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cellwriter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <Coggz> oh,
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> you can use pipes to direct the output at someone
[12:53] <Coggz> i know,
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> unfortunately he doesnt know what cellwriter is
[12:54] <|Cannon|> thats very handy ... ima have to make one for my new irc server :)
[12:54] <Coggz> !firefox | ActionParsnip stop
[12:54] <ubotu> ActionParsnip stop: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:54] <|Cannon|> gotta set it up first though
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Coggz: no need for the stop bit
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> !terminal | Coggz
[12:54] <ubotu> Coggz: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:54] <Coggz> !firefox | ActionParsnip get a life, get
[12:54] <ubotu> ActionParsnip get a life, get: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:55] <Coggz> lol
[12:55] <Coggz> i realize
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> i thought konqueror was default
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> i always have to apt-install it
[12:55] <Coggz> yes, your right
[12:56] <chx> hi. is there a twitter app for kubuntu? A global shortcut to open a dialog box ... something really quick and simple
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> !twitter
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twitter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <Coggz> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> !qt
[12:56] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[12:57] <Coggz> compiling is a pain in the ... side...
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Coggz: just use repos dude
[13:00] <AQUA-SKY> hello everybody¡¡
[13:01] <Coggz> hi
[13:02] <zeno_> sun-java5-jre: Depends: sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[13:03] <zeno_> bwuh?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> zeno_: uninstall all java stuff and reinstall the sun-java5-jre
[13:05] <ajo> hello everybady
[13:06] <yandy> Hello
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> !hi | ajo
[13:07] <ubotu> ajo: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> hi yandy
[13:09] <yandy> hi! see you again ActionParsnip
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> indeedy
[13:09] <zeno_> ActionParsnip, it says its not installed
[13:10] <Coggz> anyone know about cdc?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> zeno_: use adept or similar and search for java, then uninstall whatever it finds
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> zeno_: I  always download theself extracting  one from java.com
[13:11] <zeno_> ok thx
[13:11] <Coggz> anyone know the key for cdc?
[13:11] <yandy> Is there anyone who have interest in bioinformatics?
[13:12] <Coggz> is that fingerprint related?
[13:14] <yandy> er,yes,there is something related
[13:14] <ajo>  I have Ati Graphics And when inclusion driver proprietary ati charter a slower of fps tests with glxgears
[13:14] <Coggz> i have a biometric scanner on my memory stick
[13:15] <billybobobo> When Amarok installs its MP# playback support, which package is this?
[13:15] <Coggz> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[13:15] <Coggz> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[13:15] <Coggz> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[13:17] <Coggz> any ideas
[13:23] <dromer> hmmm, I have this weird problem: my soundcard can't play from more than 1 sound-source (apperantly), mplayer and vlc couldn't play sound when mpd was running for instance, any way to resolve this?
[13:25] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Someone want to check a web page for me -- http://www.mycalculators.com/ca/loancalcm.html   at the bottom right theres a little picture of a 'puppy dog' - i cant right click to save the image, or even see how/whats putting it there. :)  it scrolls with the page.. which is a neat trick
[13:26] <dromer> Dr_willis: http://www.mycalculators.com/ca/private/wm.gif
[13:26] <Dr_willis> There we go..  :) now the wife has her Login icon!
[13:26] <dromer> haha
[13:26] <flamingo> hi
[13:26] <Dr_willis> weird how it scrolls with the page staying where its at.
[13:26] <Dr_willis> weirder is WHY its there.
[13:26] <dromer> Dr_willis: javascript plobably :)
[13:26] <flamingo> is there a way to view vp61 or vp62 video on kubuntu?
[13:27] <flamingo> i mean video streams from the internet
[13:27] <flamingo> with vlc
[13:27] <Hamra> Dr_willis:a lot of companies put such pics usually for ads, luckily this one is in the corner, i usually get them in the middle of the screen, and dont vanish till i click them :P
[13:27] <epimeth_> http://www.mycalculators.com/ca/private/wm.gif
[13:28] <flamingo> no suitable decoder module for fourcc `VP62'.
[13:28] <flamingo> VLC probably does not support this sound or video forma
[13:28] <flamingo> t
[13:28] <Dr_willis> heh.
[13:28] <epimeth_> Dr_willis: its been a part of CSS for ages
[13:28] <epimeth_> you can set a fixed background image
[13:29] <Dr_willis> epimeth_,  must of been the first time ive ever noticed it.
[13:29] <Dr_willis> wife was hollering.. "get me that icon for my login!"
[13:29] <epimeth_> you've probably noticed backgrounds that don't scroll with the rest of the page?
[13:30] <Dr_willis> epimeth_,  proberly ;0 but since this was just a little image at the bootom right. it was more noticeable that it dident move
[13:30] <epimeth_> well this is the same thing, only it doesn't repeat and is set to the bottom right of the screen
[13:30] <Dr_willis> One of these days i need to find a nice calculator program
[13:30] <epimeth_> specifically, the CSS is background:url(private/wm.gif) #f5f5f5 no-repeat right bottom fixed;
[13:30] <Dr_willis> You da leet-html koder!
[13:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:31] <epimeth_> lol
[13:31] <Dr_willis> so glad we have css for these CRITICAL features!
[13:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:32] <Dr_willis> looking  for a calculator with a 'tape' type history where i can see a history of my calculatons, recall the #'s and so forth.,
[13:32] <epimeth_> speedcrunch
[13:32] <epimeth_> you can even save the history
[13:33] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. yea. that one is not working quite how i want :) let me play with it a bit..
[13:33] <pag> Dr_willis, based on my experience I'd say that qalculate is the best calculator you can get.
[13:36] <Hamra> is there a date for the release of the non-beta hardy?
[13:38] <Dr_willis> !hardy
[13:38] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:38] <Dr_willis> the #ubuntu+1 has the sheculd in the topic I think
[13:38] <Dr_willis> schedule.
[13:38] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:39] <Dr_willis> I alwyas keep the    http://distrowatch.com/ in my live bookmarks to see when new disrtos come out.
[13:39] <Dr_willis> Egads.. a new release of LinuxXP :)
[13:43] <blippe> kubuntu 8.04, will it be lts or not?
[13:44] <Jucato> no
[13:44] <Jucato> er.. "not"
[13:44] <flamingo> hi
[13:44] <flamingo> is it possible to view a vp62 or vp61 encoded video?
[13:44] <flamingo> i mean stream from the web...
[13:45] <blippe> oh, to bad... is there somewhere i could read about why there is a kde4 remix and the other aint a LTS?
[13:45] <Hamra> not even the one with KDE 3.5? won't it be LTS?
[13:46] <Jucato> Hamra: neither
[13:46] <Jucato> blippe: simple reason. Canonical says so. they giveth, and they taketh away
[13:46] <poison> morning guys
[13:46] <blippe> Jucato: sounds nice :D
[13:46] <Jucato> there's a KDE 4 Remix because full KDE 3 and 4 sessions won't fit in a single CD
[13:47] <Jucato> so you're given a choice what to start with. either way, once installed, you can just install the other KDE version
[13:47] <poison> im testing a OEM MP5 gadget, and Kubuntu dont seem to detect it trough USB connection, any ideas?
[13:48] <Dr_willis> mountit manually? Monitor dmesg output as you remove/plug it in...
[13:49] <Hamra> bah, i just read it, the one with KDE 3 will get commercial support from canonical, but only for 18 months, still, better than nothing :P
[13:51] <Dr_willis> Im still vague on who pays for this support, and how to i get my cut!
[13:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:51] <blippe> i guess i'm gonna stick to ubuntu till next release then... usually i change back and forth between them each release...
[13:51] <Jucato> blippe: are you a customer of Canonical?
[13:51] <Jucato> i.e., do you buy support from them?
[13:52] <Jucato> (for Kubuntu)
[13:52] <blippe> Jucato: hrrm, no, i am just another luser...
[13:52] <blippe> and hey, i wasn'tcomplaining
[13:52] <Jucato> then LTS shouldn't really be an issue :)
[13:52] <andy_> any one here any good with ffmpeg
[13:53] <andy_> my ffmpeg is lacking ac3 support and i can'r figure out how to fix it
[13:53] <Jucato> blippe: I'm just saying that the LTS sticker doesn't really mean anything for non-customers...
[13:53] <blippe> Jucato: actually i was looking forward to a working kde4...
[13:53] <Jucato> well, 4.0.3 is.. um.. it runs :)
[13:53] <blippe> Jucato: er, if i use it on a server with a graphical user interface...
[13:53] <Dr_willis> andy_,  its possible the mediabuntu version of ffmpeg (if it exists) has it.
[13:53] <Dr_willis> oops medibuntu
[13:54] <Jucato> blippe: hm?
[13:54] <Jucato> I don't see why that would be a problem
[13:54] <andy_> where do i get that from?
[13:54] <Jucato> !medibuntu
[13:54] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[13:54] <Jucato> Dr_willis: it's medibuntu :P
[13:54] <blippe> Jucato: i like keeping a session running and connecting to it from my laptop, and that server has not been upgraded since 6.06
[13:55] <Jucato> you'll have to upgrade anyway just to get kde4
[13:55] <Jucato> no escaping that part.
[13:56] <blippe> Jucato: yepp..
[13:58] <flamingo> @poison
[13:58] <flamingo> hi
[13:58] <flamingo> do you know how to install vp62 codec for vlc?
[13:59] <Dr_willis> i dident think vlc used the w32codecs.
[14:00] <poison> me neither
[14:00] <flamingo> ok, thanks
[14:01] <flamingo> it seems to be impossible
[14:01] <poison> it does with wind#%@#$@s tho
[14:01] <poison> :D
[14:01] <poison> i only use the ones dat come with kubuntu and ffmeg
[14:01] <poison> works like a charm
[14:03] <flamingo> @p i heard it works on w.....xxx
[14:04] <flamingo> but how could i play under kubuntu?
[14:04] <flamingo> it dont want to use wine,
[14:05] <Hamra> byez
[14:07] <jhutchins_wk> flamingo: What are you trying to play?
[14:07] <poison> that.. what do u need?
[14:08] <flamingo> from shoutcast.com
[14:08] <poison> avi? mpeg?
[14:08] <poison> hummm
[14:08] <flamingo> a normal stream from shoutcast,
[14:08] <flamingo> official
[14:08] <poison> using the browser? or vlc?
[14:09] <flamingo> vlc
[14:09] <ajo> #ubuntu-pl
[14:10] <poison> u got me on dat one.. never needed to use that
[14:10] <flamingo> no problem,
[14:10] <flamingo> .. ;)
[14:10] <poison> did u tried any other app?
[14:11] <poison> dunno if xmms works
[14:11] <poison> or totem
[14:13] <karolrvn_> Hello
[14:24] <b4l74z4r> will kubuntu 8.04 have kde 4 by default?
[14:25] <Jucato> b4l74z4r: there will be 2 choices. KDE 3 or KDE 4 by default
[14:25] <b4l74z4r> ok
[14:25] <b4l74z4r> why 2 choices, isn't kde 4 stable enough yet?
[14:26] <Jucato> stable? yes. feature complete? no. KDE 4.0 doesn't even have KDE PIM (KMail, Kontact, Akregator, etc)
[14:27] <b4l74z4r> i see
[14:27] <PhilRod> Jucato: what's the plan for kdepim? in 4.1?
[14:27] <Jucato> so no, it was decided to have 2 "starter's pack" rather than force 1 version at this time
[14:27] <Jucato> PhilRod: hi! yeah it's in trunk already... I heard it won't be using Akonadi by default yet though
[14:27] <Jucato> they have a transition plan for migrating towards akonadi
[14:28] <PhilRod> ah, that's good/a pity
[14:28] <Jucato> :)
[14:28] <Jucato> make up your mind! :P
[14:28] <jussi01> !khardy | b4l74z4r
[14:28] <ubotu> b4l74z4r: Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 3 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported
[14:29] <Jucato> jussi01: ooh didn't know that factoid
[14:29] <jussi01> :)
[14:29] <jussi01> !-khardy | Jucato
[14:29] <ubotu> Jucato: khardy has no aliases - added by jussi01 on 2008-02-25 11:43:35
[14:29] <Jucato> pfftt
[14:30] <PhilRod> Jucato: good that it'll be in, a pity that it won't use akonadi
[14:30] <Jucato> jussi01: I  can't know *everything* can I? :P
[14:30] <Jucato> PhilRod: I think they're trying to be very careful wrt migration... migrating PIM data, specially email and contacts, isn't a light matter :)
[14:31] <b4l74z4r> i think i will stay with ubuntu, i felt that the kde gui was a bit overwhelming
[14:31] <PhilRod> yes, sounds like they're making the right choice
[14:32] <PhilRod> b4l74z4r: fair enough, although if you just mean the way it looks (too many icons or whatever), that's pretty easily changed
[14:32] <PhilRod> and kde 4 is a lot less cluttered visually
[14:32] <PhilRod> by default, I mean
[14:32] <b4l74z4r> there were so many configuration menus and menus within menus
[14:32] <Jucato> (we don't have a gconf-editor, *hint* :P)
[14:33] <b4l74z4r> i might have a second look at kubuntu with kde 4 when its officially out
[14:33] <b4l74z4r> it was very pleasing to look at
[14:39] <shanky> good afternoon
[14:39] <emilsedgh> !leet
[14:39] <ubotu> 1337 i5 nigh-inc0mpr3h3n5ib13 70 u5 n00bs, 4nd n0b0dy c4r35 if UR 4 1337 h4x0r. Giv3 i7 4 r357.
[14:39] <sobczyk> hi, anyone had a problem with no splash screen at shutdown or restart?
[14:45] <shanky> I have kubuntu gutsy installed, how could I upgrade the kernel installed
[14:45] <shanky> just adding some apt sources with the kernel?
[14:45] <juan_> !nvidia
[14:45] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[14:47] <user1> iam using Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast De                              coder (rev 01) . i cant make it work. any help?
[14:47] <user1> tv card^
[14:50] <Dr_willis>  Google to see if it even has linux drivers/support for a start.
[14:50] <Dr_willis>  The #mythbuntu guys are also tuner card experts. :)
[14:52] <user1> k
[14:53] <juan_> huh, is this right that the 8600 GT is currently unsopported? O_o
[14:54] <Dr_willis> I think the curent nvidia drivers in  gutsy are a little old. and can have issues with that card
[14:54] <Dr_willis> The ones in hardy may work much better.
[14:54] <user1> hardy is?
[14:54] <user1> 7.10
[14:54] <user1> ?
[14:54] <juan_> heh.. first the sound and now video card great...
[14:54] <Dr_willis> the next release due out in like 2 weeks.
[14:54] <Dr_willis> !hardy
[14:54] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:54] <user1> juan_:  what sound
[14:54] <b4l74z4r> what was that palette thingy at the top right in kde 4?
[14:54] <user1> Dr_willis: ok
[14:54] <b4l74z4r> i couldn't make it go away
[14:55] <juan_> user1: hehe dont worry i got it fixed...
[14:55] <Dr_willis> user1,  i got my 8800gtsxxx working fine in both. :)
[14:55] <juan_> was cause of that known bug..
[14:55] <user1> juan_:  what?
[14:55] <juan_> 8800 to use in linux... hehehehe
[14:55] <juan_> can you play big games in linux? hehe
[14:56] <user1> ya
[14:56] <b4l74z4r> 8800gt is great for playing doom 3
[14:56] <juan_> like crysis or assassins creed? XD
[14:56] <b4l74z4r> and half life in wine
[14:56] <juan_> omghz..... hehehe
[14:57] <Admiral_Chicago> b4l74z4r: its part of plasma
[14:57] <Admiral_Chicago> !plasma
[14:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plasma - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:57] <Admiral_Chicago> great...
[14:57]  * Admiral_Chicago afk
[14:57] <Dr_willis> Im debating getting assasisans creed.. :) or not..i hate to pay $50 for a game
[14:58] <juan_> Dr_willis: do it!! thats game is awsome :3
[14:58] <Dr_willis> and  i never did finish bioshock yet....
[14:58] <juan_> Dr_willis: heh... the Good Bioshock o_O
[14:58] <user1> juan_: can you give me the link to download the sone 'miss india...' in http://mag4you.com/music/d/dhamaal.asp   . i cant click it
[14:59] <Dr_willis> I did finish Crysis (sp?)
[14:59] <b4l74z4r> i only play "live for speed" these days
[14:59] <Dr_willis> was going to replay it..  up to the alien base.. after the alien base..it got.. annoying
[14:59] <juan_> user1: cant click neither xD maybe use firefox..
[14:59] <Dr_willis> well night all
[14:59] <user1> juan_:  i have to dl firefox ..
[14:59] <user1> juan_:  ok. thx
[15:01] <user1> my system grub shows no moniter display for a part of boot period. just 'sync out of rang' how to do with that?
[15:09] <drhawk> hi
[15:09] <user1> my system grub shows no moniter display for a part of boot period. just 'sync out of rang' how to do with that?
[15:09] <drhawk> how can i get my system to use utc instead of the local-time?
[15:09] <bibstha> user1:
[15:09] <bibstha> edit the
[15:10] <user1> menu.list
[15:10] <user1> grub menu
[15:10] <user1> how?
[15:10] <bibstha> user1: wait
[15:10] <bibstha> user1: no wait
[15:10] <user1> k
[15:10] <user1> k
[15:10] <bibstha> check /etc/usplash.conf
[15:10] <bibstha> file
[15:10] <bibstha> there is the resolution of usplash, lower it down to 640 and 480
[15:10] <bibstha> should be fine
[15:11] <user1> bibstha:  its
[15:11] <user1> # Usplash configuration file
[15:11] <user1> xres=1280
[15:11] <user1> yres=1024
[15:12] <bibstha> user1: lower it down to 640 480
[15:12] <thesaint4444> hi guys, for some reason I have lost the file type association on my .pdf files, when I try to open one kate opens. How do I fix this? thanks.
[15:12] <user1> bibstha:  how about x 800 and y 600
[15:12] <user1> ?
[15:12] <bibstha> thesaint4444: right click a pdf, open with
[15:12] <BluesKaj> drhawk, system settings/date&time
[15:12] <bibstha> user1: if it fixes ur problem shouldn't be hard
[15:12] <user1> k
[15:12] <bibstha> user1: mine was fixed only by 640 480 so give it a try
[15:12] <bibstha> thesaint4444: and select kpdf and then remember file association
[15:13] <user1> k
[15:13] <user1> thx
[15:13] <user1> ju
[15:13] <user1> iam using Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast De                              coder (rev 01) . i cant make it work. any help?
[15:14] <bibstha> user1: whats that?
[15:14] <user1> tv card
[15:14] <thesaint4444> bibstha: yeah.... that doesnt work either - I get the message 'KDEINIT could not lauch /myfile.pdf - any suggestions? thanks.
[15:14] <bibstha> thesaint4444: humm i had same error, had to right click and then manually click on  kpdf
[15:15] <bibstha> thesaint4444: never found a fix, :(
[15:15] <BluesKaj> user1, which tv app are you using ?
[15:15] <user1> BluesKaj:  i tred all. myth. tv time. etc
[15:15] <juan_> how is the 3d effects called?
[15:15] <mcgub_> is there a way to reset all file associations back to defaults?defaults
[15:15] <mcgub_> heh
[15:15] <mcgub_> and learn to type
[15:15] <juan_> !beryl
[15:15] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[15:16] <bibstha> mcgub_: yeah, you can move your .kde file to .kde-backup
[15:16] <bibstha> and then refresh everything
[15:16] <bibstha> mcgub_: but that will reset every kde settings :(
[15:16] <mcgub_> bad with the good, huh?
[15:17] <yandy> One of my friends has a problem with ubuntu,The problem is so strange that I have no idea,Anyone can help me?Problem:When he successfully installed ubuntu and entered it,he found there was no "shutdown"menu there,The only way to shutdown was to type "poweroff" in terminal
[15:17] <bibstha> yandy: may be he can log off and then find a shutdown button?
[15:18] <yandy> And if he log out,there is still no shutdown button
[15:18] <bibstha> yandy: he can press the power switch?
[15:18] <bibstha> that should bring a turn off option?
[15:18] <juan_> !compiz
[15:18] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:19] <yandy> yes, he can suspend,log out but only shutdown
[15:20] <BluesKaj> user1 , my tv card is similar (ati tv wonder pro) and the xorg file has to be edited for X to handle video output. Alt+F2 , kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf . Add these lines under the "devices" section ,Option          "VideoOverlay" "on" , and , Option          "OpenGLOverlay" "off". these edits will work with tvtime .
[15:20] <yandy> It's really strange
[15:21] <user1> BluesKaj:  let me check
[15:21] <BluesKaj> yandy , does he have a k-menu ?
[15:21] <yandy> yes
[15:22] <BluesKaj> but no logout option at the bottom ?
[15:22] <yandy> he has logout option but no shutdown in option
[15:23] <user1> BluesKaj:  below the endsections?
[15:23] <yandy> yes
[15:23] <BluesKaj> user1, in the Devices section
[15:24] <thesaint4444> bibstha: no probs, thanks...
[15:24] <user1> BluesKaj: between devices and endsection
[15:24] <user1> k
[15:25] <BluesKaj> yes user1 , every section has an 'end section
[15:25] <user1> BluesKaj:  like this ?
[15:25] <user1> Section "Device"
[15:25] <user1>         VideoOverlay "on"
[15:25] <user1>         OpenGLOverlay "off"
[15:25] <user1> 	Identifier	"Intel Corporation Integrated Graphics Controller"
[15:25] <user1> 	Driver		"intel"
[15:25] <user1> 	BusID		"PCI:0:2:0"
[15:26] <BluesKaj> user1, use pastebin
[15:26] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[15:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:26] <user1> ok
[15:26] <user1> BluesKaj:  buts its right.. right?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> well, at the bottom of Device would be better , just before endsection
[15:27] <user1> k
[15:28] <juan_> !compiz
[15:28] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:32] <juan_> !compiz
[15:32] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:34] <m4n>  how do I set certain wireless networks to be default so that kde connects to them automatically if one of them is available
[15:35] <m4n> now I have to right click on that and select the network to have that connected
[15:35] <ubuntu> in dolphin trying to view external hard drive, get hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refursed uid 999.... any help?
[15:36] <m4n> O_o
[15:36] <m4n> i guess i should come back later
[15:36] <ragsagar> haha
[15:37] <m4n> everyone seems to be sleeping, ragsagar
[15:37] <ragsagar> yeah
[15:37] <ragsagar> jemshi
[15:37] <ubuntu> in dolphin trying to view external hard drive, get hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refursed uid 999.... any help?
[15:37] <ragsagar> now its clear that our comm is better than others
[15:38] <ragsagar> 318 members are sleeping ?? :o
[15:38] <ubuntu> guess so
[15:39] <ubuntu> guess I will ask google...  Google knows everything
[15:41] <ragsagar> we want make google answer everything
[15:41] <ragsagar> we want to make google answer everything
[15:47] <madmax> hi folks
[15:47] <madmax> is new ubuntu 8 giving issues with flash/java?
[15:48] <madmax> i was having hard time setting it up using firefox3
[15:48] <mcgub> for me it was until update 2 days ago...
[15:48] <mcgub> new flash plugin seems to do the trick
[15:48] <madmax> ok i'll download it again
[15:48] <madmax> which browser are u using?
[15:49] <mcgub> firefox3
[15:49] <madmax> alrighty thanks mcgub
[15:49] <mcgub> np
[15:49] <mcgub> oooo...more updates in the pipeline...
[15:50] <mcgub> i wonder what surprises today will bring
[15:51] <mcgub> nice...lotsa good stuff
[15:51] <madmax> like what?
[15:53] <mcgub> amarok, grub, kdepim, synaptic, lotsa libs as usual,xserver I/O, wheeeee
[15:54] <mcgub> 33 MB in all
[15:54] <madmax> ok thanks :)
[15:54] <spawn57> bloody hell
[15:54] <spawn57> it's 212 packages for me
[15:54] <spawn57> and I upgraded to hardy last week
[15:55] <madmax> do i need to get gnash and all/
[15:55] <spawn57> naw
[15:55] <spawn57> just get the flash plugin
[15:55] <spawn57> look up flash-nonfree in adept
[15:56] <emilsedgh> flashplayer-nonfree
[15:56] <mcgub> so could ya tell when i hit the update button? :)
[15:57] <madmax> welcome mc
[15:57] <mcgub> try that again...
[16:20] <ru_> hi
[16:21] <ru_> is anybody using s/mime with kmail? i get a "general error" when trying to sign messages
[16:33] <harmental> hey guys...which is the "proper and elegant" way of forcing usb disks automount?
[16:33] <Nirkus> hi!
[16:33] <besonen_pidgin> where can i find an iso of 8.04 with kde 4?  all of the links that i've found that are supposed to provide this iso don't work.
[16:33] <Nirkus> anyone sucessfully uses hibernation with gutsy and a dell latitude d830?
[16:35] <hydrogen> harmental: #ubuntu+1
[16:35] <harmental> hydrogen: why is that?
[16:35] <hydrogen> harmental: because I talked ot the wrong person :)
[16:35] <ru_> harmental: automount should work for usb volumes
[16:36] <hydrogen> besonen_pidgin: #ubuntu+1
[16:36] <hydrogen> konvi colored like four peoples names in a row the same color :(
[16:36] <ru_> harmental: it's done via hal
[16:37] <harmental> ru_: newbie here...
[16:38] <ru_> harmental: kubuntu already does automount
[16:38] <harmental> ru_: doesnt work here...
[16:38] <ru_> try to reconnect the disk
[16:40] <ru_> sometimes it doesn't work with my firewire ipod, i mount it manually then
[16:41] <harmental> ru_: dont get me wrong....i CAN mount the drives if i open dolphin when the drive is plugged.....but its really annoying to launch dolphin jsut for that....I would like to Kubuntu to automagically mount my usb drives
[16:42] <harmental> ru_: be right back
[16:45] <harmental> im back...
[16:45] <harmental> ru_: an ideas?
[17:17] <makdaknife> harmental: you could add an applet to your task panel... I believe there's a storage media applet
[17:17] <makdaknife> harmental: I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for
[17:17] <user1> how to distro upgrade by apt?
[17:18] <makdaknife> user1: apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:18] <makdaknife> user1: you may need to edit your sources.list file first
[17:18] <user1> BluesKaj:  the xorg edit didnt work. instead it didnt let my xorg boot.
[17:18] <user1> makdaknife:  thx
[17:18] <user1> makdaknife:  edit ... how why. wher
[17:19] <makdaknife> user1: what are you trying to do?
[17:19] <user1> 7.10 to latest.
[17:19] <user1> makdaknife: ^
[17:20] <makdaknife> user1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[17:20] <makdaknife> user1: its linked off the front page of the Kubuntu website
[17:20] <user1> k
[17:24] <user1> makdaknife:  thx. isnt it better to dl the latest .iso.   (i just installed 7.10) so dont care apps and configs
[17:25] <makdaknife> user1: if you don't mind going through the install all over again... it may make sense...
[17:25] <user1> k
[17:26] <TeslaTony> If I set up a dual monitor display when I have multiple desktops, can I get different desktops to show on the monitors, and choose which ones will be showing when?
[17:26]  * makdaknife wonders why all the people who seem to just be starting out all run off to install beta versions of things
[17:26] <user1> makdaknife:  i am not a starter. i just install 7.10 on my new system
[17:28] <makdaknife> user1: obviously very experienced if you need to ask how/why you need to edit your sources.list file to upgrade from gutsy to hardy
[17:28] <Hamra> it's not a matter of starter or expert, it's a matter of personality, and liking to new stuff, there are experts who still prefer old programs! it's just taste i guess :P
[17:28] <user1> makdaknife:  yes. because i never did it...
[17:28] <user1> makdaknife:  how long have you been using linux?
[17:29] <makdaknife> Hamra: sure thing.... its just that Beta usually means that software is still being tested and is likely to be buggy... if you're a starter... you're going to have trouble working out how to use a buggy system
[17:29] <makdaknife> user1: 8 years
[17:29] <user1> makdaknife:  how apache works.
[17:30] <user1> makdaknife: you wont know if you used for 16 yrs and nver user apache.
[17:30] <makdaknife> user1: are you asking a question or stating something?
[17:30] <bipolar> has anyone gotten shared folders to work in Virtualbox?
[17:30] <user1> makdaknife:  just ending :)
[17:31] <user1> bipolar:  yes.
[17:31] <bipolar> I'm using the hardy packaged version
[17:31] <makdaknife> user1: okay... if you haven't used apt yet, then you're new to any debian based system in my opinion
[17:31] <user1> bipolar: you have to install guest addons
[17:31] <bipolar> user1: hmm... I've done that. :(
[17:31] <user1> makdaknife:  i havnt used ALL apt commands. YEET
[17:31] <bipolar> user1: are you useing the packaged version or the download direct from virtualbox?
[17:31] <user1> YET*
[17:31] <user1> bipolar: package ose version
[17:31]  * makdaknife yawns
[17:32] <bipolar> user1: hmm... same here. weird...
[17:32] <user1> bipolar:  but iam in 7.10
[17:32] <bipolar> user1: maybe thats it.
[17:32] <user1> bipolar:  install guest addons
[17:32] <dthacker-work> !xinerama
[17:32] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[17:32] <bipolar> user1: it's already installed.
[17:32] <dthacker-work> !dual
[17:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:32] <user1> bipolar:  #vbox
[17:32] <bipolar> maybe I effed something up with my nlited windows.
[17:32] <dthacker-work> !DualHead | TeslaTony
[17:32] <ubotu> TeslaTony: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:33] <TeslaTony> dthacker-work: Thanks. I'll take a look at those
[17:33] <dthacker-work> TeslaTony: I'd start with the DualHead entry.
[17:33] <chi_> hi all, how to find out which "LSOF" lines are outgoing and which are incoming? ( lsof -i)
[17:34] <dthacker-work> TeslaTony: I use Xinerama and mine is configured for 1 large desktop on both screens.  I haven't tried the config you're after.  Good Luck!
[17:34] <user1> makdaknife:  i have a tv card. not working. any help?
[17:35] <user1> makdaknife: Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[17:36] <jussi01> !tv | user1
[17:36] <ubotu> user1: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[17:36] <dthacker-work> chi_: lsof looks for open files. I don't thing you can distinguish reads from writes.  Try 'man lsof' and see if theres a way to do that.
[17:37] <jussi01> user1: also: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-41123.html
[17:38] <Hamra> omg, thnx for asking about the TV, lol, i completely forgot that i have a tv tuner when i switched to linux. not that i bothered use it on windows :P
[17:38]  * dthacker-work hugs his mythbuntu box
[17:39] <rzepek> witam wszystkich
[17:40] <rzepek> jak zainstalowac compiza w kubuntu 6,06 ??
[17:40] <rzepek> ;p
[17:41] <dthacker-work> rzepek:  this is an english channel,  what language are you looking for help in?
[17:41] <jussi01> !pl | rzepek
[17:41] <ubotu> rzepek: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[17:41] <dthacker-work> That was my third guess.
[17:42] <jussi01> dthacker-work: hostnames are your friend ;)
[17:42] <dthacker-work> doh!
[17:45] <CyD_> is there a way to try the xubuntu-customized xfce on my kubuntu install?
[17:45] <jussi01> CyD_: yes
[17:46] <jussi01> CyD_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[17:46] <CyD_> jussi01: great thank you much
[17:46] <jussi01> CyD_: that will install it all, you can then log into it at the login screen
[17:52] <Hamra> once hardy is officially released, will there be any special procedure to go from hardy beta to the normal one? or will it be just a like a regualr update? mainly, do i have to download those few hundred megs?
[17:52] <Pici> !final | Hamra ;)
[17:52] <ubotu> Hamra ;): If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Hardy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[17:53] <user1> kget's resume support is not good. am i right? any better  dl manager for good resume support and for larg downloads?
[17:53] <Hamra> lol, the exact word-by-word sentence i wanted to see :P
[17:53] <Hamra> what's wrong with kget? it works like a charm for me
[17:55] <gentix> hi
[17:55] <Odd-rationale> gentix: hello
[17:55] <gentix> I've got a question.
[17:55] <Odd-rationale> !ask
[17:55] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:55] <gentix> Is it possible to install FF2 and TB2 from mozilla via apt-get?
[17:56] <Odd-rationale> tb2?
[17:56] <gentix> Thunderbird 2
[17:56] <Odd-rationale> gentix: for firefox, just do "sudo apt-get install firefox" or use adept
[17:56] <user1> kget's resume support is not good. am i right? any better  dl manager for good resume support and for larg downloads?
[17:57] <gentix> yes. i allready know. but if i try so, only firefox and thunderbird 1.5.x are going to be installed
[17:57] <Odd-rationale> gentix: the same with thunderbird: "sudo apt-get install thunderbird"
[17:57] <gentix> i already did apt-get update && upgrade
[17:58] <gentix> any further ideas? :)
[17:58] <user1> Odd-rationale:  ?
[17:59] <Odd-rationale> gentix: the thunderbird version in my repo is Version: 2.0.0.12
[17:59] <gentix> hm
[17:59] <gentix> strange
[17:59] <Odd-rationale> gentix: apt-cache show thunderbird
[18:00] <gentix> mom
[18:00] <Odd-rationale> user1: I don't know. I, too have had some trouble with kget resume download...
[18:01] <user1> Odd-rationale:  you didnt tried any other?
[18:01] <gentix> Odd-rationale: Firefox 1.5
[18:01] <Odd-rationale> user1: nope. I have relativly fast internet connection anyways...
[18:02] <user1> k
[18:02] <Odd-rationale> gentix: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[18:02] <gentix> Kubuntu 6.0.6.1
[18:02] <Odd-rationale> gentix: ah, that's may be why. I'm using 7.10
[18:03] <gentix> oh no :)
[18:03] <Odd-rationale> gentix: You may be able to upgrade directly to 8.04. not 100% sure though
[18:03] <jussio1> yes, thats correct
[18:03] <Hamra> is it true that openoffice 2.4 won't be in gutsy's repos?
[18:03] <gentix> how to do so?
[18:04] <jussio1> gentix: have a look at mark shuttleworths blog
[18:04] <jussio1> !info openoffice
[18:04] <Odd-rationale> gentix: wait until 8.04 is released first though
[18:04] <ubotu> Package openoffice does not exist in gutsy
[18:04] <jussio1> hrm
[18:04] <Odd-rationale> gentix: release date is arpil 24
[18:04] <gentix> i ve been using windows for my whole life
[18:04] <Hamra> !info openoffice.org
[18:04] <ubotu> openoffice.org (source: openoffice.org): OpenOffice.org Office suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu5.3 (gutsy), package size 4 kB, installed size 44 kB
[18:05] <gentix> just found kubuntu in an old cd case
[18:05] <Hamra> not very helpful :P
[18:05] <jussio1> there we are, so only 2.3 in gutsy
[18:05] <gentix> hat to delete my harddisk
[18:05] <makdaknife> !info openoffice.org
[18:05] <ubotu> openoffice.org (source: openoffice.org): OpenOffice.org Office suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu5.3 (gutsy), package size 4 kB, installed size 44 kB
[18:05] <gentix> and wanted to have some fun with linux :)
[18:05] <makdaknife> Hamra: sorry... didn't see you had done that
[18:05] <Odd-rationale> gentix: had fun?
[18:06] <gentix> :)
[18:06] <gentix> a lot
[18:06] <gentix> everything workd so far
[18:07] <gentix> as u can see i m even online ;)
[18:07] <makdaknife> gentix: that's a miracle in itself...
[18:07] <gentix> thank you :)
[18:08] <gentix> is there any emulator, that can help me to get some only windows programs work?
[18:08] <gentix> except wine
[18:08] <Odd-rationale> gentix: really only wine
[18:08] <algyz> gentix:  you where wrong :)
[18:09] <makdaknife> gentix: you can buy crossover office... it works pretty well
[18:09] <alucardromero> Is there a way to log off a user remotely or kill programs no listed in ps -aux
[18:09] <lufthanza> how do I use apt to tell me what the largest packages currently installed on my system are?
[18:09] <makdaknife> gentix: its not too pricey either
[18:10] <alucardromero> I'm trying to delete a user, but somebody says he's logged in.
[18:10] <alucardromero> I see no processes for said user though. :(
[18:10] <gentix> what about virtualbox?
[18:10] <Odd-rationale> gentix: assuming you have a copy of windows. but hardware acceleration may be a problem
[18:10] <makdaknife> gentix: virtualbox is great, but you need to install a copy of Windows in the virtual environment
[18:11] <makdaknife> Odd-rationale: I must admit, I've had few problems with VirtualBox... but then I'm not a gamer... so maybe its not great for stuff like that
[18:12] <Odd-rationale> makdaknife: i'm no gamer either..
[18:12] <gentix> thank you so far
[18:12] <Odd-rationale> your welcome, so far
[18:12] <gentix> :)
[18:13] <gentix> so far mean something like - until now, right?
[18:13] <gentix> s
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> yes
[18:13] <Hamra> i'm connected to internet by LAN, the other computer which receives the internet has winXP, and allows remote PCs to control the connection, is there a way from kubuntu to see an icon of this remote connection? to be able to connect it, disconnect it?
[18:13] <gentix> byebye
[18:13] <Odd-rationale> gentix: bye
[18:14] <makdaknife> gentix: ciao
[18:24] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:25] <Odd-rationale> ubuntu_: hi
[18:25] <Cannon> hey guys, i have a windows loaded and I can't get rid of it even after reboot: "KDE Wallet Service"
[18:26] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: type in your kde wallet password.
[18:26] <Cannon> it won't let me
[18:27] <Cannon> i can see a faint txt box
[18:27] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: screenshot?
[18:27] <Cannon> thats all
[18:27] <Cannon> won't let me type in it though
[18:27] <ubuntu_> Ih, I'm here with Kubuntu 7.10 and konversation, just to say ot you all gays at ubuntu GREAT JOB, my wireless RT61 finaly working :-) yeee
[18:27] <Cannon> lol, whats a good screen capture proggie for linux?
[18:28] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: ksnapshot for kubuntu. should be preinstalled
[18:28] <Cannon> k
[18:29] <Odd-rationale> kmenu --> graphics
[18:29] <Cannon> ta
[18:29] <Cannon> where can I host it?
[18:29] <Cannon> * up it
[18:30] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: are you registered? if so, you can send it right to me.
[18:30] <Odd-rationale> !regiseter
[18:30] <ubuntu_> keep good work
[18:30] <ubuntu_> :-) ;-)
[18:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regiseter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:30] <Odd-rationale> !register
[18:30] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[18:30] <Cannon> lol
[18:32] <Cannon> lol, my nick is aready registered
[18:32] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: or here: http://imagebin.ca/
[18:32] <Cannon> ta
[18:33] <DexterF> hi
[18:33] <Odd-rationale> DexterF: hi
[18:33] <Cannon> http://imagebin.ca/view/bA37Ua.html @ Odd-rationale
[18:33] <DexterF> guys, what's with card reader in gutsy? after I upgraded from feisty this is a mess
[18:34] <Cannon> lol, hardy will be out soon
[18:34] <DexterF> copying mp3 to my sd card in a usb card reader writes 20MB, then stalls, konqueror locks up
[18:35] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: hmm. try this. in terminal do "killall kwalletmanager"
[18:36] <Cannon> kwalletmanager: no process killed
[18:38] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: try "ctrl+alt+esc" and click on that window (be carefull not to click the wrong thing)
[18:39] <Cannon> k
[18:39] <Cannon> nothing
[18:40] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: when you do "ctrl+alt+esc" does you cursor change to an "x"?
[18:40] <Cannon> nup
[18:41] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: try this: do alt+f2 then type "xkill" then click on that window.
[18:42] <Cannon> i have another unclosable window too: KNetworkManager
[18:42] <Cannon> k
[18:42] <Cannon> yey, worked :)
[18:42] <Cannon> very handy
[18:43] <DarkStar> SkolBoy
[18:43] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: sure is.
[18:43] <SkolBoy> hello
[18:43] <SkolBoy> i'm from brazil
[18:43] <SkolBoy> ^^
[18:44] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: but if you accidentally clicked on your desktop or taskbar instaed, you might end up killing that process...
[18:47] <brendan__> packages.ubuntu.com seems to be down, who do i report that to?
[18:49] <Cannon> lol, yeah Odd-rationale
[18:52] <Cannon> is there a way to make linux boot with number lock turned on?
[18:52] <Cannon> it drives me nuts!l ol
[18:53] <Odd-rationale> Cannon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[18:54] <sigma_1234> what date is hardy due out on?
[18:57] <Odd-rationale> sigma_1234: april 24
[18:58] <jimmy51vinsky> any cpp fellas in here?
[18:59] <NickPresta> jimmy51vinsky, what's the question?
[18:59] <jimmy51vinsky> on my kubuntu box, i'm trying to support a USB device.  i have the driver and test app from the manfuacturer, and i'd like to make a change
[18:59] <jimmy51vinsky> http://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/5361 is the file
[19:00] <elpez> please help... X wont start from a livecd.... it says "waiting for X server to shut down"... can i shut it down?
[19:00] <jimmy51vinsky> i want to add a command line arg for the strings to display (see lines 69 and 98)
[19:01] <jimmy51vinsky> i'm able to compile and run just fine... i just want to add an argument
[19:01] <jimmy51vinsky> or two, actually
[19:01] <jimmy51vinsky> two strings
[19:02] <Nirkus> hey. i have a PCCARD UMTS card and want to launch a script when it's inserted, so i can setup the PIN. any pointers on how to do this properly?
[19:03] <Nirkus> there seems to be no umts-card with pin support (modem connection) shipped with the NetworkManager
[19:04] <cybrhuman> hi, how do I connect to a windows network domain?
[19:04] <sigma_1234> yay a whole 13 days
[19:05] <rzepek> dajcie mi adres pokoju co gadaja po polsku :P
[19:05] <wpk> !pl
[19:05] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[19:07] <martijn81> are there tools for linux to re-encode HD 1920x1080 wmv movies to x264 mkv 720p?
[19:07] <nazim> hi every body
[19:08] <NickPresta> martijn81, mencoder, ffmpeg,
[19:08] <Cannon> in linux browser how can I force a directory to come first ... "_" doesn't work like it does it windows
[19:08] <martijn81> NickPresta: are there easy to use front ends for that?/
[19:09] <Cannon> hi nazim
[19:13] <pagan0ne> is 7.04 still supported?
[19:14] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: yes
[19:14] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: each release is supported for 18 months. lts for 3 years
[19:14] <Odd-rationale> desktops that is.
[19:15] <pagan0ne> ok, i got a weird issue, i was making a backup of my /home directory, and when i was done, i accidently deleted /home, so i restored from my back up... full back-up all files etc... now when i go to login it takes my password, the screen goes black then it drops me back to kdm like the password failed, but it didnt fail, and doesnt say it did fail
[19:16] <Cannon> whats an "RPM" package
[19:16] <Cannon> ?
[19:16] <pagan0ne> Cannon a RPM package is a package ment for redhat linux
[19:17] <pagan0ne> it can be installed on kubuntu, although i would not reccomend trying
[19:17] <Cannon> so I need non rpm's for kubuntu then?
[19:17] <Cannon> k
[19:18] <Cannon> woah, there is sooooooooooo much to remember for a new linux user
[19:18] <jhutchins_wk> On the live CD, does the default user have a password (for sudo)?
[19:19] <Odd-rationale> jhutchins_wk: no
[19:19] <jhutchins_wk> so just hit enter, or does it not even prompt?
[19:19] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: can you log in at ctrl+alt+f1?
[19:20] <Odd-rationale> jhutchins_wk: I don't think it asks.
[19:21] <jimmy51vinsky> Q:  http://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/5363  - Lines 38 through 47 are me trying to deal with strings.  Could someone tell me what I'm doing wrong there?
[19:22] <_myrtille_> !vi
[19:22] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code
[19:22] <eddieftw> .wc
[19:23] <_myrtille_> hehe :D i'm having trouble with the configuration of vi/vim is there a special channel for vi/vim or should i just ask herre? :)
[19:24] <_myrtille_> -r
[19:24] <Odd-rationale> _myrtille_: /join #vim
[19:25] <_myrtille_> Odd-rationale:thx :)
[19:27] <JohnLee> hey guys I have created a persistent USB pendrive install of ubuntu and really like it.   Has anybody done the same for Kubuntu?
[19:27] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale yes i can ctrl+alt+f1 and log in, all my files etc appear to be there
[19:30] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale, i actually logged in and created a new user, and tried to login kdm as that user, and am having the same issue, im perplexed because i didnt touch any system files... just my /home directory
[19:33] <noodles12> is there a way to restart the sound?
[19:34] <bin4ry> hi together
[19:34] <bin4ry> how can i find out the path of jdk?
[19:36] <Cannon> hey, am installing and configuring apachi and I need to edit a .conf file in Kate but it won't let me save changes ... is there  way to overcome this?
[19:36] <bin4ry> Cannon: sudo kate $file
[19:36] <chemist109> Cannon: Are you running kate as root?
[19:36] <Cannon> thanks bin4ry
[19:36] <chemist109> bin4ry: beat me to it!
[19:36] <Cannon> no, it would be easier to run it as root though
[19:37] <pagan0ne> Cannon but less safe
[19:37] <Cannon> heh
[19:37] <Cannon> am the only one using it
[19:37] <pagan0ne> Cannon sudo was implimented so that normal users wouldnt run as root all the time, running as root is a serious security issue
[19:37] <Cannon> yeah
[19:38] <bin4ry> chemist: what does this mean?
[19:38] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale you there?
[19:38] <chemist109> bin4ry: You answered Cannon's question slightly ahead of me.
[19:39] <bin4ry> ok but what does your proverb mean
[19:39] <chemist109> bin4ry: "Beat me to it" means answered first.
[19:39] <Cannon> is this something I need to worry about?
[19:40] <Cannon> cannon@cannon-desktop:/usr/local/apache2/conf$ sudo kate httpd.conf
[19:40] <Cannon> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-cannon" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[19:40] <Cannon> Error: "/tmp/kde-cannon" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[19:40] <Cannon> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-cannon" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[19:40] <pagan0ne> Cannon i dont think it will be an issue
[19:40] <Cannon> cool
[19:40] <algyz> Cannon:  it's ok
[19:40] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: sorry. took a break...
[19:40] <Cannon> cos am really new to apachi and if something wasn't working i prolly wouldn't even notice! :P
[19:41] <algyz> Cannon:  btw, kdesu kate ;)
[19:41] <algyz> not sudo
[19:41] <bin4ry> chemist: thx
[19:41] <chemist109> We should have told Cannon to use kdesu
[19:41] <Cannon> lol
[19:41] <Cannon> whats kdesu?
[19:41] <algyz> ;)
[19:41] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale thats ok, ill brb myself, 2 mins
[19:41] <algyz> !kdesu | Cannon
[19:41] <ubotu> Cannon: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[19:42] <Cannon> ta :)
[19:42] <Cannon> i don't understand why sudo can be so dangerous
[19:42] <algyz> !kdesu | Cannon
[19:42] <ubotu> Cannon: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[19:42] <algyz> to know why
[19:43] <Pici> There is no undo on the command line.
[19:43] <algyz> Pici:  ctrl+c
[19:43] <algyz> it's useful sometimes
[19:43] <Pici> algyz: Yes, but that only aborts the operation, which may have already had disasterous results.
[19:43] <algyz> It is :)
[19:44] <NickPresta> Cannon, sudo is dangerous because you're executing something with root level permissions. This means you can do anything (delete sensitive files, etc) without any sort of "STOP! YOU CAN'T DO THAT!" message.
[19:45] <tashiro> i am unable to run warcraft 3 on gutsy opengl doesent seem to be functioning any ideas?
[19:45] <Cannon> that makes plenty of sense! :P
[19:45] <Cannon> lol, you could dual boot windows tashiro
[19:45] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale im back
[19:46] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: how did you add a new user?
[19:46] <NickPresta> Cannon, and as said already, doing something like 'rm FILE' has no easy undo, which means you have most likely lost that file forever. Combine that with files that make your system run and you have a big problem :)
[19:46] <tashiro> I dont like windows all the antivirus checks, disk cleanups and watevas make me sick
[19:46] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale  sudo adduser myname
[19:47] <Cannon> heh
[19:47] <rabindra_> i am in a big trouble somehow some packages got marked for removal without my knowledge and got uninstalled while running adept even adept is not there in kmenu what do i do?
[19:47] <tashiro> which driver is the best for ATI 9200?
[19:48] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: maybe your file permissions got messed up when copying back.
[19:48] <pagan0ne> rabindra_ i think your about fscked....  ive heard its recoverable, but never managed to recover myself
[19:49] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale thats a possibility, what would you reccomend i chmod /home back to
[19:49] <chemist109> rabindra_: alt+F2 and start konsole
[19:49] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: I would run the following commands as root:
[19:49] <pagan0ne> pagan0ne im not exactly new to linux, but im dont remember alot of the intricate stuff
[19:49] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: chmod -R 755 /home/pagan0ne
[19:49] <chemist109> rabindra_: Then try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install adept
[19:50] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale im not exactly new to linux, but im dont remember alot of the intricate stuff
[19:50] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale thanx, ill try that
[19:50] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: chown -R pagan0ne:pagan0ne /home/pagan0ne
[19:50] <pagan0ne> well ill have my user try that, the computer is some 500 miles away from me, and i can no longer ssh into it myself as it lost its dialup connection
[19:50] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: chmod 644 /home/pagan0ne/.dmrc
[19:51] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: then reboot: shutdown -r now
[19:51] <rabindra_> chemist109: this is the error i get
[19:51] <rabindra_> rabindra@rabindra-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install adept
[19:51] <rabindra_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[19:51] <chemist109> rabindra_: do that: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:51] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale just those 2?
[19:52] <chemist109> I've had to do that before during a screwed up install.
[19:52] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: those 3 + reboot = 4
[19:52] <rabindra_> chemist109: what next?
[19:52] <chemist109> rabindra_: I would then do sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[19:52] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale missed the chown
[19:53] <chemist109> oops!  I mean sudo apt-get -f install
[19:53] <chemist109> rabindra_: That is supposed to fix broken dependencies.
[19:54] <rabindra_> chemist109: but adept still doesn't appear
[19:55] <chemist109> rabindra_: Once you're finished with fixing dependencies, do this:  sudo apt-get install adept
[19:55] <chemist109> It should show up then.
[19:56] <shtoom> Hi i've lost audio after installing pdfedit on kubuntu
[19:56] <shtoom> I am running 7.10 on my laptop
[19:56] <chemist109> If you still can't find it, you can try sudo apt-get install --reinstall adept
[19:57] <rabindra_> chemist109: and so many other softwares also got lost, perhaps. i am not sure but so many packages were marked for removal and i closed adept in the process.
[19:58] <rabindra_> i am worried if some important dependencies and critical softwares also got removed!
[19:59] <shtoom> when I am trying to remove ghostscript it shows that kde will also be removed why is that ?
[19:59] <Fritzel> is dmesg cleared when you reboot?
[20:01] <fdoving> yes.
[20:01] <SlimeyPete> shtoom: presumably kubuntu-desktop depends on it
[20:01] <chemist109> rabindra_: I don't know what was removed, so I can't say what to do.  You could cat /var/log/dpkg.log and see what it says was removed.
[20:01] <SlimeyPete> perhaps kpdf uses it?
[20:01] <shtoom> SlimeyPete: in that case why it should remove whole kde desktop insted of removing just kpdf
[20:02] <SlimeyPete> shtoom: because kubuntu-desktop depends on kpdf (IIRC)
[20:02] <SlimeyPete> to be honest the dependencies in kubuntu are quite odd
[20:02] <chemist109> shtoom: why do you want to remove ghostscript?
[20:02] <SlimeyPete> kubuntu-desktop depends on a tonne of stuff, which can be annoying
[20:03] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale still no luck, any other ideas?
[20:03] <shtoom> chemist109: cause I got a feeling after running update-manager which did some updates related to ghost script i've lost audio
[20:04] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: hmm. did you get any errors running those commands as root? (sudo)
[20:04] <shtoom> SlimeyPete: this is real bad of not being able to remove one bad package
[20:04] <SlimeyPete> shtoom: yes, I know.
[20:04] <SlimeyPete> it has frustrated me before.
[20:05] <shtoom> I run updates every day, so any one recently reported of the losing audio ?
[20:05] <fdoving> SlimeyPete: isn't most of it changed to recommends? - which would mean you could uninstall some of the tonn without removing kubuntu-desktop itself.
[20:05] <chemist109> shtoom: Have you tried running alsamixer and playing with the sliders?  That has fixed things in the past for me.
[20:06] <SlimeyPete> fdoving: that may be the case, if it's a recent change
[20:06] <chemist109> shtoom: You could try reinstalling the package if you think that would help (I don't see what ghostscript has to do with audio, though).
[20:06] <SlimeyPete> I haven't had any problems recently
[20:07] <shtoom> chemist109:I've tried running alsamixer every thing running perfect but xmms or for that matter any other multimedia application won't play sound
[20:07] <nHawk> i recently installed kde4.. and it makes my processor to run al full speed.. and so my laptop heated up and my palms burning
[20:08] <chemist109> shtoom: Did you log out and back in?  That sometimes works too.
[20:08] <shtoom> all the media applications just hang trying to play audio
[20:08] <shtoom> chemist109:I did a reboot as well
[20:08] <fdoving> nHawk: my guess is that either strigidaemon or nepomuk server is eating your cpu. try alt+2 -> show system activity - see what uses most cpu.
[20:09] <mcgub> shtoom: i lost my audio in a recent upgrade as the kernel version was updated...i had to recompile my drivers
[20:09] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale no, no errors
[20:09] <nHawk> thnx fdoving
[20:09] <nHawk> rite now i m back in kde3.5
[20:09] <nHawk> :D
[20:09] <shtoom> mcgub:When you lost audio does it still identify your audio hardware  ?
[20:10] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: i'm out of ideas, sorry...
[20:10] <mcgub> only through command line...the mixer didn't see it
[20:10] <shtoom> mcgub: I mean does it show make & model in alsamixer and in kmixer ?
[20:10] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale is there a command line ppp utility included in 7.04?
[20:10] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale to where i can ssh back in myself to run commands directly?
[20:10] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale or a way to set it up to recive a dial-in connection?
[20:11] <fdoving> nHawk: you can stop nepomuk service at system settings -> advanced -> service manager -> select nepomuk server, hitthe stop button. you can also disable it by unticking the tickbox infront of it.
[20:11] <mcgub> shtoom: nothing at all
[20:11] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: I never used dialup, su dunno that either...
[20:11] <pagan0ne> anyone know if theres a way to dialup via command line in 7.04 without installing any more software?
[20:12] <shtoom> mcgub:but for me every thing shows up properly its just that players are not able to play sound
[20:12] <mcgub> shtoom: but the shiny new drivers made it all good
[20:12] <mcgub> shtoom: it would still point to drivers IMO
[20:12] <shtoom> mcgub:i've checked lsof |grep /dev/dsp nothing shows up so I think its good
[20:13] <rabindra_> chemist109: adept doesn't show all the search results that it showed before. bluefish editor got removed; now search doesn't show any result, i had already fetched updates
[20:13] <pagan0ne> Odd-rationale thanks for your help
[20:13] <mcgub> shtoom: good luck then
[20:13] <user1> iam using tvtime with tv card Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01), i cant see the cable. no video no audio.further info : http://pastebin.com/m6986190e   any help please?
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> pagan0ne: this might help:
[20:14] <pagan0ne> whats the best way to create a new user via commandline?
[20:14] <Odd-rationale> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[20:14] <shtoom> even though ghost script got nothing to do with audio I've lost it only after installing pdfedit
[20:21] <shtoom> ha now I know its some hickup with alsa xmms is playing properly with OSS driver !
[20:23] <nHawk> hey.. i just installed kde4 in gutsy... and.. my kde4-kopete cannont connect to msn .. any ideas?.. however it can connect to googletalk
[20:25] <jussio1> nHawk: please use #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support :)
[20:25] <martijn81> howto convert a 1920HD wmv movie with mencoder to mkv x264 720p?
[20:25] <nHawk> oh really.. thnx..
[20:27] <NickPresta> martijn81, sorry I didn't get back to you. I don't know of any GUI frontend to ffmpeg or mencoder off-hand. The command line interface is fairly simple and allows for total control. If you have time, you may want to use that instead.
[20:28] <martijn81> NickPresta: i have no idea how to control that from the command line
[20:28] <_pagan0ne> is there a easy way to tell kubuntu to reconfigure x by itself without having to download any packages?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> martijn81,ffmpeg is quite easy to use and if you google for a tutorial , there's some very informative ones
[20:28] <martijn81> _pagan0ne: sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:29] <_pagan0ne> thx
[20:29] <_pagan0ne> martijn81 will that also reconfigure kdm?
[20:29] <NickPresta> martijn81, try gtranscode (A GTK frontend to transcode)
[20:29] <martijn81> _pagan0ne: i don' t think so
[20:30] <BluesKaj> NickPresta, i find mencoder isn't particularly kind to the resolution of some video files.
[20:30] <supert0nes> anyone here tried linuxmint?
[20:30] <_pagan0ne> martijn81 how would i reconfigure that?
[20:30] <supert0nes> btw i'm a kubuntu user
[20:31] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, ah. I have only used it on smaller resolution videos. I found a few posts which show users using mencoder for x264 videos but I suppose YMMV definitely.
[20:31] <martijn81> _pagan0ne: dunno out the top of my head, but it is indeed possible
[20:31] <CrunchyFerrett> Ok. Im here. Now what?
[20:39] <jonathan_> Newbie question: I've just installed Kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu, but I still have the deafult ububtu OS, how do I activate the KDE desktop etc?
[20:40] <llutz> jonathan_: chose KDE as session in gdm/kdm
[20:43] <jonathan_> llutz - Where is gdm?
[20:43] <t3hwiz0rd> can anyone throw a bone with compiz-fusion?
[20:43] <t3hwiz0rd> i had it working all the way up till now, when i went to change display settings... now no window decorations, even after i reverted the settings.
[20:43] <CrunchyFerrett> Why would my Adept thingy keep telling me that something has locked the database? I just installed kubuntu like 10 minutes ago
[20:43] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix
[20:43] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[20:43] <llutz> jonathan_: thats the software-thing you use to login
[20:44]  * CrunchyFerrett tries
[20:44] <ct529> where is acrobat reader in the respositories. how is it called?
[20:44] <ct529> I cannot find it
[20:44] <chemist109> ct529: google medibuntu
[20:45] <CrunchyFerrett> wow
[20:45] <CrunchyFerrett> ok
[20:45] <CrunchyFerrett> now its asking me YES or NO and I dont even understand the question
[20:45] <CrunchyFerrett> is there a paste bucket or something so someone can look at this?
[20:45] <SlimeyPete> !paste
[20:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[20:46] <jonathan_> lluts - thought that while i was typin the question ... Talk about ask a stupid question, been away from it too long. Ta
[20:46] <CrunchyFerrett> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62868/
[20:47] <SlimeyPete> CrunchyFerrett: just hit enter
[20:47] <CrunchyFerrett> righto
[20:47] <SlimeyPete> whenever you see that question, if you're not sure then hit enter
[20:47] <ct529> chemist109: google mediwaht?
[20:47] <CrunchyFerrett> wow
[20:47] <SlimeyPete> it'll just leave your current configuration file in place
[20:47] <ct529> !acrobat
[20:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:47] <CrunchyFerrett> that seems like the exact opposite of what I tell people to do
[20:47] <chemist109> ct529: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[20:48] <SlimeyPete> CrunchyFerrett: if it installs a new version, any modifications made to the file by you or another program/installer will be lost
[20:48] <SlimeyPete> so leaving the file alone is usually the safest option
[20:49] <CrunchyFerrett> well
[20:49] <CrunchyFerrett> its done
[20:49] <CrunchyFerrett> no idea WAHT it did
[20:49] <CrunchyFerrett> but it did it
[20:50] <iliya> If someone have problems with wireless, for me on 7.10 was  helpful this:
[20:50] <iliya> $ kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[20:50] <iliya> Dynamic IP - DHCP (recommended)
[20:50] <iliya> The content of the interfaces file should look like this:
[20:50] <iliya> iface ra0 inet dhcp
[20:50] <iliya> iface ra0 inet dhcp
[20:51] <iliya> instead ra0 wlan0
[20:51] <user1> iam using tvtime with tv card Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01), i cant see the cable. no video no audio.further info : http://pastebin.com/m6986190e   any help please?
[20:51] <ct529> chemist109: thanks! I downloaded it from adobe, just to show them we care about having a linux version ....
[20:51] <iliya> iface ra0 inet dhcp
[20:51] <iliya> auto ra0
[20:51] <CrunchyFerrett> ok
[20:52] <CrunchyFerrett> now how do I get back the screen that wanted to update my release to a new version?
[20:52] <_pagan0ne> does anyone know where kppp stores its config file?
[20:53] <iliya> If someone have problems with wireless, for me on 7.10 was  helpful this:
[20:53] <iliya> $ kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[20:53] <iliya> Dynamic IP - DHCP (recommended)
[20:53] <iliya> The content of the interfaces file should look like this:
[20:53] <iliya> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[20:53] <iliya> auto wlan0
[20:53] <iliya> bye
[20:54] <chemist109> CrunchyFerrett: If adept crashed during an upgrade to the next release, you can probably just use apt-get to finish the upgrade.
[20:55] <chemist109> It happened to me recently and I used: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install
[20:55] <chemist109> Then I did: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:56] <chemist109> CrunchyFerrett: Did it change your repositories to the new release ones?
[20:57] <CrunchyFerrett> ...
[20:57] <CrunchyFerrett> I have no idea
[20:58] <CrunchyFerrett> When I installed, it gave me a window saying "New release avail"
[20:58] <CrunchyFerrett> but after reboot, its not there
[20:59] <chemist109> CrunchyFerrett: You can use the instructions above safely even if you're not upgrading.  I would suggest you try them.
[21:00] <CrunchyFerrett> chemist109: Im sorry, but I think I missed any instructions you gave. Would you be kind enough to repeat them?
[21:00] <Coggz> hi
[21:01] <Coggz> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[21:01] <Coggz> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[21:01] <Coggz> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[21:01] <Coggz> what do i need to do?
[21:01] <martijn81> BluesKaj: do you happen to know the command to use to convert 1920x1080HD wmv to 720p x264 mkv HD?
[21:02] <Coggz> what do i need to do to correct that error
[21:04] <chemist109> CrunchyFerrett:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:06] <chemist109> Coggz: this should get the headers you seem to be missing: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev kdelibs-dev kde-devel
[21:07] <BluesKaj> martijn81, I'm quite sure the latest version of ffmeg can handle the conversion. ' ffmpeg -i Filename.avi -target dvd NewFilename.mpg ' where -i is the input file and target is the converted output
[21:07] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg
[21:07] <Coggz> thanks
[21:19] <matthew_> What package contians the "unique" command for bash scripting?
[21:19] <matthew_> sorry.. it's uniq, and its there..
[21:21] <Eberhard> ist jupe zuhaus?
[21:22] <jussio1> !de | Eberhard
[21:22] <ubotu> Eberhard: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[21:23] <Eberhard> danke
[21:26] <Coggz> how do i use a theme that ¡ compiled?
[21:27] <PhilRod> Coggz: make sure it's installed in the right place, and then look it up in system settings/control center
[21:27] <PhilRod> there's a nice section about it in the kde user guide at docs.kde.org
[21:27] <danny1> good evening
[21:31] <PhilRod> hi danny1
[21:34] <houmala> is there a NVU version for Kubuntu??
[21:36] <Coggz> ¡t ¡s not ¡n system settings
[21:38] <_pagan0ne> ok, i can startx as root, but as normal users x crashes
[21:39] <_pagan0ne> i think its a permission error somewhere, how would i fix it?
[21:40] <Coggz> how do ¡ find my theme?
[21:41] <Coggz> !theme
[21:41] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[21:41] <Coggz>  !changethemes
[21:41] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[21:42] <_pagan0ne> ok, i can startx as root, but as normal users x crashes, i think its a permission error, can someone please help me?
[21:43] <Coggz> !X
[21:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[21:51] <_pagan0ne> Coggz, i tried that
[21:54] <aaroncampbell> Does anyone here have any experience connecting to a Windows VPN with Kubuntu?  I know Kvpnc is supposed to work with pptpd, but I'm having problems
[21:59] <luke__> Coggz
[22:00] <_pagan0ne> ok, i can startx as root, but as normal users x crashes, i think its a permission error, can someone please help me?
[22:01] <zasek> hej
[22:02] <zasek> jest tu kto?
[22:02] <jussio1> !pl | zasek
[22:02] <ubotu> zasek: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[22:03] <zasek> ???
[22:03] <zasek> english?
[22:03] <jussio1> zasek: english only in here :)
[22:03] <zasek> only?
[22:03] <chemist109> _pagan0ne: try startx as user and paste the output in a pastebin
[22:04] <jussio1> zasek: no polish. please use #ubuntu-pl
[22:04] <zasek> read , speak, write in english?
[22:05] <jussio1> zasek: correct. in this channel, please only write english
[22:06] <zasek> write in english language
[22:06] <zasek> wats wrong?
[22:06] <MachinatorSyver> /who freenode/staff/*
[22:06] <zasek> cizys
[22:07] <zasek> LINKIN PARK
[22:07] <corporeal> IS A BAND
[22:07] <zasek> ??
[22:10] <MachinatorSyver> Is there anyone avalible to help me solve a kubuntu installation problem?
[22:12] <elpez> hello im installing kubuntu from an alternate cd.... and i get a debootstrap warning... failure to install base packages...
[22:12] <elpez> on retry it says itll try 5 more times
[22:12] <elpez> and on retry i get the same message
[22:12] <elpez> im confused
[22:15] <jonathan_> Setup Question: How do i enable brightness up/down using function+up/down keys an a laptop? (it works fine with ubuntu)
[22:19] <Coggz> bye all
[22:23] <MachinatorSyver> Hi, could someone help me with an installation problem?
[22:24] <Odd-rationale> MachinatorSyver: what is the problem?
[22:24] <MachinatorSyver> well, I had kubuntu on my computer before
[22:25] <MachinatorSyver> but I installed a game for linux and it killed my video card.  In the process of trying to figure out what was wrong I formatted my computer and thats how I only have windowsxp now
[22:25] <MachinatorSyver> I have a new card but my live cd when boon in graphics safe mode gives a bunch of IO errors
[22:26] <MachinatorSyver> and doesnt start up
[22:26] <MachinatorSyver> heres a picture http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/aethergyver/0411081010.jpg
[22:26] <Daisuke_Ido> a game *killed* your graphics card?  i find that real tough to buy
[22:26] <MachinatorSyver> well the problem didnt start until after the game crashed
[22:26] <Daisuke_Ido> were you running the game from a livecd?
[22:27] <MachinatorSyver> and then the problem wasn't fixed even after a format until I put in a new card
[22:27] <MachinatorSyver> no
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> okay...  then...  squashfs?
[22:27] <MachinatorSyver> huh?
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> hat picture
[22:27] <Daisuke_Ido> that*
[22:28] <MachinatorSyver> what about it
[22:28] <MachinatorSyver> I don't know what squashfs means
[22:28] <Daisuke_Ido> was that picture taken trying to boot from a livecd?
[22:28] <MachinatorSyver> yes
[22:28] <MachinatorSyver> in graphics safe mode
[22:29] <Daisuke_Ido> apparently it had quite a few problems not even related to graphics...
[22:29] <MachinatorSyver> I used that CD before to install kubuntu before I formatted my computer
[22:29] <MachinatorSyver> that makes me sad
[22:30] <Daisuke_Ido> you can burn a new cd
[22:30] <Daisuke_Ido> you aren't limited to just one :)
[22:30] <MachinatorSyver> I know, I just assumed since that CD worked before, it would work again
[22:30] <Piero_Scaruffi> Daisuke_Ido HAI D:
[22:30] <Piero_Scaruffi> KOnnichiWA
[22:30] <Daisuke_Ido> it should have...
[22:30] <Piero_Scaruffi> Mushi Mushi
[22:30] <Daisuke_Ido> Piero_Scaruffi, do i know you?
[22:31] <Piero_Scaruffi> wakarimaska
[22:31] <Daisuke_Ido> that's a no.
[22:31] <Piero_Scaruffi> no Ido-san
[22:31] <Piero_Scaruffi> i dont think so
[22:32] <MachinatorSyver> so you think if I burn another CD i'll have better luck?
[22:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i think it's possible
[22:33] <Daisuke_Ido> is that shot from after replacing the video card?
[22:33] <MachinatorSyver> yes, before I would get a totally different screen from the boot disk
[22:33] <MachinatorSyver> that I had no idea how to navigate
[22:34] <Daisuke_Ido> define totally different?
[22:34] <MachinatorSyver> well you know how theres like 5 or so options 2 being normal boot and graphics safe boot?
[22:35] <MachinatorSyver> the other screen had probably over 20 options none of which were graphics safe boot
[22:35] <Daisuke_Ido> odd
[22:36] <_myrtille_> .q
[22:36] <Gazel> How can I install Compiz Fusion on Kubuntu 7.10 ?
[22:36] <MachinatorSyver> well, I'll try makeing another CD
[22:37] <Daisuke_Ido> !compiz | Gazel
[22:37] <ubotu> Gazel: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[22:38] <mEck0> Hi! is there a specific compiz manager for KDE? or which package should I install?
[22:39] <cracko> mEck0: you can find manager for compiz in synaptic
[22:40] <mEck0> cracko: thx
[22:40] <cracko> but remember that it should be manager for kde :)
[22:41] <jonathan_> Newbie question: kubuntu fn+up/down doesn't work to change brightness on Dell laptop
[22:49] <stond> can someone tell me where to or how to install AAC codec so I can convert video for my PSP
[22:49] <jussio1> !codecs | stond
[22:49] <ubotu> stond: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:50] <Odd-rationale> stond: convert to aac?
[22:53] <stond> Odd-rationale When I try to covert using several different programs and sripts and software It keeps telling me aac codec unknown what can I do to fix this
[22:53] <mv0> simpserver a bit buggy with kopete?
[22:53] <Odd-rationale> stond: if less than 100mb, you can try an online resource: http://zamzar.com/
[22:55] <stond> They are not they are over they are episoddes of the 1990 animated X-Men series
[22:56] <Odd-rationale> stond: maybe this might help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/AAC
[22:57] <stond> does anybody know where do get aac codec for linux so I can convert video for watchinng on my PSP
[22:58] <jussio1> stond: try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras (as the page i sent you says...)
[22:59] <SlimeyPete> stond: I googled and found this, looks useful: http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/08/30/ipod-video-howto
[22:59] <damien__> Hi
[22:59] <damien__> Can someone here help me?
[23:00] <damien__> Can anyone help me?
[23:00] <jussio1> !ask | damien__
[23:00] <ubotu> damien__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:00] <damien__> Can someone help me install pidgin?
[23:01] <Adpad> how do i query a website from the console - like to send a cellular phone text message from a web portal?
[23:01] <SlimeyPete> damien__: you can install it from adept if you have a recent version of kubuntu
[23:01] <jussio1> damien__: open, adept. find and select pidgin, click install, click apply.
[23:01] <damien__> I do, but it says that there's some package error.
[23:02] <jussio1> damien__: what error?
[23:02] <damien__> Hold on
[23:03] <damien__> "There was an error committing changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[23:03] <jussio1> damien__: are you on hardy or gutsy?
[23:03] <damien__> I have no clue
[23:03] <damien__> How would I find out?
[23:03] <jussio1> !version
[23:03] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[23:03] <damien__> Okay
[23:04] <damien__> Eh
[23:04] <damien__> How do I open a !shell?
[23:04] <Odd-rationale> !shell
[23:04] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[23:04] <jussio1> damien__: go to system -> konsole
[23:04] <damien__> Okay
[23:05] <damien__> It gives me this error:
[23:05] <damien__> "
[23:05] <damien__> damien@damien-desktop:~$ lsb_release - a
[23:05] <damien__> Usage: lsb_release [options]
[23:05] <damien__> lsb_release: error: No arguments are permitted
[23:05] <jussio1> damien__: no space befor the a
[23:05] <damien__> Oh ok
[23:05] <damien__> Ubuntu 7.10, Gutsy
[23:06] <SlimeyPete> make sure you update adept first
[23:06] <damien__> How do I do that? God, I'm such a noob at this >_>
[23:06] <SlimeyPete> I can't remember what the button's called though >.<
[23:06] <SlimeyPete> Refresh?
[23:06] <damien__> :X
[23:07]  * SlimeyPete isn't on kubuntu at the moment
[23:07] <SlimeyPete> there's a button on the top panel
[23:07] <jussio1> fetch updates
[23:07] <jussio1> ;)
[23:07] <SlimeyPete> that's the one
[23:07]  * Ralesk wonders if there's a ppa of whatever's current in the 4.1 line of KDE
[23:08] <damien__> I don't see a fetch updates button...
[23:09] <jussio1> damien__: have you opened adept ?
[23:09] <damien__> Yes
[23:09] <SlimeyPete> what buttons do you see?
[23:09] <jussio1> damien__: should be top left
[23:10] <damien__> It says Search: (input field) Any Suite (dropdown box)
[23:10] <SlimeyPete> above that
[23:10] <jussio1> damien, no, above those
[23:10] <jussio1> hehe
[23:10] <damien__> Nothing
[23:10] <damien__> That's the upper most thing
[23:10] <jussio1> damien__: go to settings and untick hide toolbar
[23:11] <damien__> There's no settings option either >_>
[23:11] <jussio1> damien__: close it. I think you are in add remove programs.
[23:11] <jussio1> then go to kmenu, sustem, adept manager
[23:12] <damien__> Ah okay
[23:12] <damien__> Okay, fetch updates, then what?
[23:12] <jussio1> now try install
[23:13] <dimon> ky
[23:13] <jussio1> !kde4 > Ralesk
[23:13] <damien__> Same error :/
[23:14] <jussio1> damien__: ok, close adept, and go to konsole
[23:14] <Ralesk> jussio1: yes, I know
[23:14] <damien__> Okay I'm in Konsole
[23:14] <jussio1> damien__: type this exactly (copy paste is a good idea): sudo apt-get install -f
[23:15] <Ralesk> jussio1: before 4.0 was released, for a good time some svn builds were available via PPA.  I'm wondering if there's someone who bothered to set up a PPA for the current trunk yet this time around
[23:15] <damien__> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[23:15] <damien__> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[23:15] <jussio1> damien__: close adept ;)
[23:15] <Cannon> i guys i need help opening a port ... according to my iptables it's open for both tcp and udp (irc server 6667) ... but when I check at www.canyouseeme.org it says "connection refused"
[23:15] <damien__> Oh, oops
[23:16] <damien__> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[23:16] <jussio1> Cannon: your router is probably blocking it/not forwarding it
[23:16] <Ralesk> Cannon: Are you behind NAT?
[23:16] <damien__> That's what happens when I do that.
[23:16] <Cannon> am sure my router is fine ... let me check
[23:17] <jussio1> damien__: ok. now type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:17] <Cannon> Protocol	Port Range	Translate To ...	Trigger Protocol	Trigger Port	
[23:17] <Cannon> Any	6667 - 7000	6667 - 7000	-	-
[23:17] <damien__> jussio1: There's an error
[23:17] <Cannon> router is ok according to that, right?
[23:17] <damien__> jussio1: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[23:17] <jussio1> damien__: have you added any repositores?
[23:18] <damien__> I don't know >_>
[23:18] <damien__> Maybe
[23:18] <damien__> How would I be able to tell?
[23:18] <kayla_> I have a dell inspiron and I am having trouble getting the multimedia card reader to work. I bought the computer with ubuntu on it, but then replaced it with kubuntu.  is their a program i need to dl to get them to work?
[23:18] <jussio1> damien__: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:18] <jussio1> !paste | damien__
[23:18] <ubotu> damien__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:20] <damien__> jussio1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62891/
[23:21] <jussio1> oh, bleh
[23:21] <damien__> What?
[23:22] <damien__> Did I do something wrong? >_>
[23:22] <Cannon> so if my router is showing that it's open and iptables what else can it be?
[23:23] <Ralesk> Cannon: are you forwarding those ports to your computer's IP address, or just "having them open", whatever that means?
[23:24] <damien__> jussio1: Did I mess something up?
[23:24] <jussio1> damien__: wait a moment please
[23:24] <Cannon> to Mikey-PC ... but i dunno if that is an old windows name or router
[23:24] <damien__> jussio1: Okay
[23:24] <Illusion> hello
[23:24] <Cannon> @ Ralesk
[23:25] <Ralesk> hmm, I'd guess it's better to call the computer by its IP address :)
[23:25] <Illusion> I was installing Kubuntu desktop live CD. its boots pefect from cd. There's an option available to copy the distro to a hdd or usb stick, anybody aware of it generates an error and warnings while booting from HDD? Afterwards it stops
[23:26] <jonathan_>  help - fn+up/down hotkeys doesn't work in gutsy? (laptop brightness)
[23:27] <Cannon> i'll have a see
[23:29] <jussio1> damien__: please try replacing your sources with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62892/
[23:29] <Cannon> Ralesk: does this mean anything to you "Can't find the server IP address: Valid name but the host has no IP address"
[23:29] <jussio1> damien__: before you do, you havent installed kde4 have you?
[23:29] <damien__> I have no clue if I did or not
[23:29] <damien__> I think I tried
[23:29] <Cannon> i'm managing the dns with no-ip and I know for a fact that its directly to my ip Ralesk
[23:29] <jussio1> damien__: I dont think you did.  ;)
[23:30] <Illusion> anybody?
[23:30] <jussio1> Illusion: gutsy or hardy?
[23:30] <Illusion> gutsy
[23:30] <damien__> jussio1: should I?
[23:30] <jussio1> damien__: no
[23:30] <Illusion> various errors like:
[23:31] <Ralesk> hardly o.O  if it's supposed to be connected and reachable... it really should have an address
[23:31] <damien__> jussio1: I get another error when trying to replace my sources, saying it was not possible to write to that location.
[23:31] <Ralesk> I'm confused by your network, Cannon :)
[23:31] <jussio1> damien__: you need to use: kdsudo kate
[23:31] <Cannon> Ralesk: this is my router http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Thomson-Alcatel/Speedtouch780v6/Speedtouch780v6index.htm
[23:31] <Illusion> anacron, cron, crond, atd, /share/acpi, /etc/acpi
[23:32] <damien__> jussio1: what do you mean I need to use kdsudo kate?
[23:32] <damien__> jussio1: I have the sources open in kate
[23:33] <sourcemaker> I have configured virtualbox for host only... but I receive the error message:
[23:33] <sourcemaker> Warning - failed to create the interface vbox0 for the user vboxusers
[23:33] <jussio1> damien__: in konsole, type: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:33] <jussio1> sourcemaker: go look on virtual box's site, thats in their faq's
[23:34] <Cannon> [23:31:02] Contacting IRC server 87.194.247.182 (87.194.247.182) on port 6667
[23:34] <Cannon> [23:32:02] [SOCKET ERROR]: Connection timed out @ ralesk
[23:34] <damien__> jussio1: Okay, now what do I do?
[23:34] <jussio1> damien__: replace the sources...
[23:34] <Cannon> this is really getting me aggitated
[23:34] <damien__> jussio1: I know :P I meant after that
[23:35] <Ralesk> Cannon: all I know is that you're probably reaching the router, but it can't forward the packets to the computer for whatever reason
[23:35] <Ralesk> it's totally weird that said computer doesn't have an IP address
[23:35] <Cannon> lol, yeah
[23:36] <jussio1> damien__: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:36] <Cannon> interesting development ... it's no longer "refused" ... just timing out now
[23:36] <Cannon> so surely that means the ports are open?
[23:37] <Ralesk> yeah, I guess so
[23:37] <Cannon> so what next? lol
[23:38] <Illusion> jussi01, what do you think about these errors? Ive installed it with oem setup
[23:38] <damien__> jussio1: It keeps asking me to insert my kubuntu CD, and I have it inserted
[23:38] <Ralesk> well, I don't know about your LAN, but that computer you're trying to forward to, look into it why it doesn't have at least a LAN IP address (say, 192.168.x.y)
[23:39] <Illusion> *and i haven't updated it yet, with apt-get
[23:39] <Cannon> it does
[23:39] <Cannon> i just can't remember it! lol
[23:39] <Cannon> am used to windows so I have no idea how to look it up on linux
[23:40] <Cannon> i do recall it starting with 192 though
[23:40] <Ralesk> ifconfig :)
[23:40] <jussio1> Illusion: which errors?
[23:40] <Cannon> ta
[23:40] <Cannon> i'll have a lookie
[23:40] <damien__> jussio1: It's still asking me to insert the CD and press enter, which I have done but it still asks
[23:40] <Cannon> why not ipconfig? lol
[23:41] <jussio1> damien__: please use that kdesudo command again and remove the line about the cd.
[23:41] <jussio1> damien__: to stop the update press ctrl+c
[23:41] <damien__> jussio1: what was the kdesudo command? O_o
[23:42] <Cannon> could it be 127.0.0.1 Ralesk?
[23:42] <Illusion> jussi01 im reinstalling it atm with normal setup
[23:42] <Ralesk> Cannon: 127.0.0.1 is localhost, so no
[23:42] <jussio1> damien__: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:42] <Cannon> lol
[23:42] <Cannon> <<< noob :P
[23:42] <Cannon> how about this one :P  192.168.1.66
[23:42] <jussio1> damien__: and Illusion, I need to run. im sorry. :/
[23:43] <Ralesk> Cannon: ifconfig because it's "interface" -- it could be setup to a non-IP network for all we care :)
[23:43] <Illusion> np it's ok
[23:43] <Ralesk> that looks good, Cannon
[23:43] <damien__> Uh
[23:43] <damien__> I need more help :X
[23:44] <VousDeux> !hardy status
[23:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardy status - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:44] <jussio1> damien__: just remve that line, then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:44] <jussio1> damien__: then try installing again
[23:44] <jussio1> VousDeux: go look at the topic in #ubuntu+1
[23:44] <jussio1> now im really going
[23:44] <VousDeux> jussi01: thanks
[23:45] <Illusion> cya jussi01
[23:45] <Cannon> hey Ralesk ... i typed that lan address and it changed it to Mikey-PC so am assuming thats the one
[23:46] <Cannon> !pastebin
[23:46] <damien__> E: Type '(20071016.1)]/' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:46] <Ralesk> ah, "intelligent" UI on the router, I see :P
[23:46] <Cannon> lol
[23:46] <Cannon> if I put the contents of my iptables in pastebin would that be a silly idea?
[23:48] <Ralesk> doubtful :)  give it a spin
[23:48] <damien__> How do I run apt-setup in konsole?
[23:48] <Cannon> ZOMG!
[23:48] <Cannon> some updates have disappeared! lol
[23:49] <Cannon> have a lookie pls Ralesk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62895/
[23:49] <damien__> nickpresta: how do I run apt-setup in konsole?
[23:49] <Cannon> i know I added the ports earlier
[23:49] <Cannon> must have lost em on reboot
[23:49] <rickest> damien__: there is no apt-setup, you mean aptitude?
[23:50] <damien__> rickest: No, when I try to run add or remove programs, it tells me that theres an error and to run apt setup in terminal
[23:50] <Ralesk> Cannon: yes, the IRC range seems to be missing altogether
[23:50] <Cannon> lol
[23:50] <Ralesk> I think there's an iptables-save and an iptables-restore command that can... you guess it what they do :P
[23:50] <damien__> rickest: An incorrect APT configuration seems to be the problem
[23:50] <Cannon> you couldn't give me the exact code to add both tcp and udp could you please Ralesk ... i don't wanna make any mistakes
[23:51] <rickest> damien__: no idea what it means, sorry. 'sudo aptitude' might tell you but you should probably ask someone who knows
[23:51] <Ralesk> it's been quite a long time since I've last used iptables and I'm quite rusty, sorry
[23:52] <Ralesk> though to be honest, behind NAT, unless you forward everything to the computer, there's little use of iptables or another packet filter in the first place...
[23:52] <damien__> I think I fixed it
[23:53] <Cannon> so there is an alternative to iptables ... a GUI would be nice
[23:53] <Cannon> ! :P
[23:53] <acme64> howdy
[23:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about p - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:53] <Cannon> lol
[23:54] <kbmaniac> opps - didnot mean to do that
[23:54] <acme64> how do i upfgrade to 8.04
[23:55] <acme64> from here
[23:56] <monkeybritches_> You might want to wait a couple more weeks
[23:57] <Cannon> it's due out on the 24th i think
[23:58] <acme64> naa ill upgrade now
[23:58] <acme64> figured it out on the site
[23:58] <Cannon> :P
[23:58] <damien__> What exactly does "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" do?
[23:58] <sourcemaker> virtualbox crashed my windows 2003 server installation....
[23:58] <Cannon> the first one makes sure your respositories are upto date damien__
[23:59] <Cannon> maybe repositories isn't the right word
[23:59] <VousDeux> man, I haven't done any updates or anything for so long I guess I'm skiddish...evidentally my adept has been broken since October, so I'm way behind
[23:59] <Cannon> like checking for upgrades
[23:59] <damien__> Ah
[23:59] <damien__> ok
[23:59] <Cannon> i prefer synaptic to adept
[23:59] <damien__> Well it takes a long time to update :|
[23:59] <Cannon> and October is ages ago! lol