| nixternal | LaserJock: pong? | 00:25 |
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| LaserJock | nixternal: are you going to be doing any more kubuntu-docs uploads before release? | 00:27 |
| nixternal | nope | 00:27 |
| nixternal | unless something is totally broken of course | 00:27 |
| LaserJock | sure | 00:28 |
| LaserJock | I was just wondering if I should do a final edubuntu-docs | 00:28 |
| nixternal | hrmm, I thought you weren't going to? | 00:28 |
| crimsun | I'll review k-d tonight | 00:28 |
| LaserJock | huh? | 00:28 |
| LaserJock | wasn't gonna do what? | 00:29 |
| crimsun | upload a final e-d, I presume. | 00:29 |
| LaserJock | I would assume I would want to do a final one before it's ... you know, final :-) | 00:30 |
| LaserJock | just came back from a graduation party for a good friend | 00:31 |
| LaserJock | maybe I had a little too much champagne for nixternal ;-) | 00:31 |
| nixternal | hehe | 00:32 |
| LaserJock | although I wouldn't think half a glass would do much | 00:32 |
| LaserJock | nasty stuff | 00:32 |
| LaserJock | sparkling cider is way better | 00:32 |
| ubotu | New bug: #215441 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Grammatical errors found in desktop-effects.xml" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215441 | 00:50 |
| Flannel | That bug contains no actual grammatical issues. | 00:52 |
| Flannel | and most, if not all, of the itemized complaints aren't valid. | 00:53 |
| nixternal | those are my favorite bugs! | 01:02 |
| j1mc | does anyone know if we have to do a "bzr bind" to the new intrepid branches to prevent commit-history problems like we did with the hardy branch? | 02:20 |
| j1mc | hm. anyone know how to import translations? | 02:56 |
| j1mc | i think it's time to do that, right? | 02:56 |
| thumper | I found a reference to this channel on some forum post | 04:52 |
| thumper | I'm looking for an easy way to generate PDFs from docbook | 04:52 |
| thumper | I read that the way to go is via apache fop | 04:53 |
| thumper | is that still the case? | 04:53 |
| thumper | if it is, are there simple packages to install to get it working? | 04:53 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure | 05:17 |
| LaserJock | used to be no because fob is a Java app | 05:17 |
| LaserJock | *fop | 05:17 |
| LaserJock | but I think I may have seen it go by in hardy-changes | 05:17 |
| LaserJock | thumper: ^^ | 05:17 |
| thumper | LaserJock: thanks | 05:18 |
| thumper | LaserJock: so is there a fo2pdf command somewhere? | 05:18 |
| LaserJock | I think it does that, but I'm not sure | 05:18 |
| LaserJock | let me look real quick if we have a script for it | 05:18 |
| LaserJock | thumper: the doc team does have some useful stuff | 05:31 |
| thumper | :) | 05:31 |
| LaserJock | thumper: in the libs/pdf/ directory | 05:31 |
| thumper | LaserJock: of a ubuntu-doc branch? | 05:32 |
| LaserJock | yeah, if you don't have one grab intrepid because we started the history over and it will be *much* faster to branch | 05:32 |
| thumper | LaserJock: thanks | 05:35 |
| LaserJock | thumper: np, hope it helps | 05:36 |
| thumper | me too :) | 05:36 |
| mdke | thumper: we haven't built pdfs since probably the edgy release so you won't find the actual commands we ran in the branch; I'll try and dig them out for you | 08:05 |
| thumper | mdke: thanks | 08:06 |
| thumper | that'd be appreciated | 08:06 |
| mdke | thumper: aha, if you get the dapper branch (use a DC machine) then you'll find them in ubuntu/Makefile, I'm pretty sure. Just getting the branch myself | 08:08 |
| thumper | DC? | 08:08 |
| Madpilot | Dapper branch? taking a trip into the Museum of Antique Docs? | 08:09 |
| mdke | thumper: I mean datacenter | 08:09 |
| mdke | Madpilot: right | 08:09 |
| thumper | mdke: how about LP? | 08:09 |
| thumper | bzr branch lp:ubuntu-doc/dapper | 08:10 |
| mdke | thumper: i mean, it will be a lot faster to download from a datacenter machine than outside | 08:10 |
| mdke | it's a large branch | 08:10 |
| * thumper shrugs | 08:10 | |
| thumper | smaller than LP I bet | 08:10 |
| thumper | and I can wait | 08:10 |
| mdke | ok | 08:10 |
| mdke | thumper: ok, so here is a sample: | 08:11 |
| mdke | xsltproc --xinclude -o $(LULUBASE)C/serverguide.fo $(LULUSTYLE) ../generic/serverguide/C/serverguide.xml | 08:11 |
| mdke | fop -c ../libs/pdf/fop.xconf -fo $(LULUBASE)C/serverguide.fo -pdf $(LULUBASE)C/serverguide.pdf | 08:11 |
| mdke | rm $(LULUBASE)C/serverguide.fo | 08:11 |
| thumper | hmm... | 08:12 |
| thumper | what do I need to install to get the fop command? | 08:12 |
| mdke | thumper: fop, but afaik there isn't an ubuntu package, it needs to be installed by hand | 08:12 |
| thumper | :( | 08:12 |
| thumper | why not? | 08:12 |
| thumper | geez | 08:12 |
| thumper | where's a motu when you need one | 08:13 |
| mdke | maybe it is now, I don't know | 08:13 |
| mdke | it's been some time since we used it | 08:13 |
| mdke | thumper: details which should be accurate as at about a year or two ago are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/BuildingDocumentation/PDF | 08:13 |
| thumper | mdke: thanks, I'll check it out | 08:15 |
| mdke | the Ubuntu Training team have been converting xml to pdf too, using a different toolchain, I think | 08:19 |
| mdke | thumper: you might want to contact them too | 08:19 |
| thumper | mdke: billy? | 08:19 |
| mdke | thumper: right | 08:19 |
| thumper | ok | 08:19 |
| thumper | thanks again | 08:19 |
| mdke | np | 08:20 |
| MagicFab | hi all | 13:24 |
| ubotu | New bug: #215662 in ubuntu-doc "Licensing information is not stated / linked from the docs "preview" website" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215662 | 13:47 |
| sommer | mdke: any thoughts on bug #215025? | 13:48 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 215025 in ubuntu-doc "server guide / mail filtering error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215025 | 13:48 |
| MagicFab | sommer, there a bit of missing information in the server guide, regarding JeOS install. Should I just log a bug ? | 13:49 |
| sommer | MagicFab: missing as incorrect, or more details? | 13:49 |
| MagicFab | more details - GRUB install fails, which may give the impression the install is not posssible when in fact LILO can be used (which makes sense in such context) | 13:50 |
| MagicFab | Similar to "missing SCSI support" which IMO is a bug but if duly documented can be worked around easily | 13:51 |
| sommer | umm... that actually sounds more like an issue with jeos itself, and not a doc bug | 13:51 |
| MagicFab | I'll file a bug against jeos, but I am asking here if it's worth changing the doc about that. | 13:52 |
| sommer | you could ask in #ubuntu-virt about the grub issue... during my testing grub worked fine :) | 13:52 |
| sommer | MagicFab: no, because hopefully the bug will be fixed before release | 13:53 |
| MagicFab | nijaba tells me the doc is frozen, though. | 13:53 |
| sommer | plus we're basically frozen until release | 13:53 |
| MagicFab | Could this be an exception if tha bug is not resolved by release ? | 13:53 |
| sommer | heh, correct | 13:53 |
| sommer | probably not, because of the time it takes for translations | 13:54 |
| sommer | I'd think that grub not working is a pretty major thing, soren in #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu-virt is the one working on jeos and virtualization stuff | 13:55 |
| MagicFab | Oh it's already reported. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-jeos/+bug/215618 | 13:56 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 215618 in ubuntu-jeos "Grub installation fails on JeOS Hardy on KVM Hardy" [Undecided,New] | 13:56 |
| sommer | heh, bonus | 13:56 |
| sommer | MagicFab: you might ping soren about it, if you're still seeing the problem in the latest jeos version | 13:57 |
| MagicFab | so confirming that one and bugging soren about that I guess. | 13:57 |
| MagicFab | sommer, thank you. | 13:58 |
| sommer | welcome | 13:58 |
| MagicFab | sommer, I am seing that in a fresh Hardy beta of Jeos, that's why I am here :) So... might this be grounds for a doc update exception if it's not fixed by release ? | 14:02 |
| sommer | no, I have every confidence that it'll be fixed by release. If not the proper way to handle it would be with an SRU. | 14:03 |
| sommer | an SRU to make grub on jeos work that is :) | 14:04 |
| MagicFab | I am not sure it's not intentional - it's also curious someone logged the bug 1 hr. ago :) | 14:05 |
| sommer | I think that grub working is the expected behavior, so it's usually best to document that... at least that's my view... heh | 14:05 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 14:05 |
| sommer | MagicFab: I can ask soren real quick | 14:06 |
| MagicFab | sure, although he's notified already. | 14:06 |
| sommer | ah, well if it was only created an hour ago, he may not have had time to address it yet | 14:07 |
| MagicFab | sure, I work with soren so I won't break his neck just yet :) | 14:10 |
| sommer | ah, that's cool... at canonical? | 14:11 |
| MagicFab | yes, although I am at support. He's in the server team as you know | 14:11 |
| sommer | ooohhh, sure you blog frequently? | 14:12 |
| MagicFab | sommer, these days yes - it depends. -> http://www.fabianrodriguez.com/blog/ | 14:13 |
| sommer | cool, I read Planet Ubuntu... nice to meet you in IRC :) | 14:14 |
| MagicFab | sommer, likewise. I'll most likely endup contributing to docs directly - I was supposed to help with the Desktop guide too. | 14:17 |
| sommer | that's awesome... the more the merrier! | 14:18 |
| MagicFab | sommer, I had promised never to code or use dev tools long ago. Whishful thinking :) | 14:19 |
| sommer | MagicFab: hehehehe... coding can be fun too | 14:20 |
| MagicFab | sommer, I am told GRUB is supposed to work in JeOS and will be fixed - so no changes to that doc just yet | 14:26 |
| sommer | sweet | 14:27 |
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| sommer | mdke: ping | 18:38 |
| mdke | sommer: (In case I'm not around at the moment, please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I get back) | 18:38 |
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| mdke | sommer: I think it's too late for a fix like that | 21:22 |
| mdke | sommer: how serious is it? | 21:22 |
| sommer | mdke: the group and username are reversed... so it won't work the way it currently is | 21:24 |
| sommer | but the user may well reverse the docmented command and things will work | 21:24 |
| sommer | so overall, I can't say it's a huge bug | 21:25 |
| mdke | sommer: ok, as long as the wrong command doesn't lead to breakage, I think we fix it for intrepid | 21:25 |
| sommer | I missed it because I had both usernames as part of each other's goup | 21:25 |
| sommer | okay, sounds good | 21:25 |
| sommer | thanks mdke | 21:26 |
| sommer | I guess my other thought is that I'd hate to have the error there for 5 years :( | 21:27 |
| mdke | sommer: we'll fix it after the release then and update translations | 21:29 |
| mdke | as per philbull's proposal | 21:29 |
| sommer | oh ya, good point | 21:29 |
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