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Volansthe changelog entry is already there asac...00:00
Volansyou want this as the first line of changelog: ubuntu-it-menu (1.0.6.1-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low00:02
asacVolans: ok. run dch -r00:05
asacsave that unmodified00:05
asacthen commit with message like what luca did00:05
asac* release 1.0.6.1-0ubuntu1 to ubuntu/hardy00:05
asac(use the right version :))00:06
asacthen he can just push that to ~ubuntu-dev and upload00:06
asache or me00:06
Volans1.0.6.1-0ubuntu1 is not the right version?00:06
asacno idea ;)00:15
asacitsprobabyl right ... i just didn't know if its the version you selected for upstream release00:15
VolansDktr did it, so I think is correct :)00:17
ftaasac, http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/04/handle-with-care-symantec-on-web-browsers-security/00:18
VolansUNRELEASED uppercase or lowercase?00:19
ftauppercase00:19
ftaseems like AMO has 1.0.6, not 1.0.6.100:20
asacwe are ahead ;)00:21
Volansasac: add another item in changelog or modify the last from hardy to UNREALEASED?00:22
asacVolans: if you already added the changelog entry, just edit time or date or something for the release commit00:22
asacusually it should be UNRELEASED till release00:23
asacbut no reason to backout because of that00:23
Volansyou can check it here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~volans/firefox-extensions/ubuntu-it-menu.LP215375/files for the actual version, tell me if this commit is necessary or not00:24
Volanssorry for those stupid questions... but it's my first package... :)00:25
asacVolans: the commit is necessary because if it doesn't exist you cannot find the revision that was uploaded later00:26
asac(unless you start to use tags)00:26
Volansasac: sorry but don't understand that. What I have to do in details?00:29
asacjust do a commit on top00:30
asacsince you cannot commit with nothing changed00:30
asaci suggest that you update the date/time00:30
asac(usually UNRELEASED -> hardy would be switched for a release)00:31
asacunderstood?00:31
asacVolans: if i look at the branch in a year i want to figure which revision was actually uploaded as 1.0.6.1-0ubuntu1 :)00:31
asacits easiest to document it by a "release-commit"00:32
Volansthen I have to change hardy to UNRELEASED and also the timestamp in changelog, in order to do the commit, right? (the version in changelog is already 1.0.6.1-0ubuntu1)00:34
Volanswhat is a "release-commit"?00:34
ftaa commit containing nothing except UNRELEASED -> hardy + date bump00:35
Volansok :D00:35
asacVolans: but since you don't have UNRELEASED, just date bump is enough00:35
ftaand a clear description in the commit message. We usually use "RELEASE x.y.z-0ubuntu1 to hardy"00:35
Volansthen just a "fake" commit to write this commit message?00:36
ftawe don't use bzr tags00:36
ftayep00:37
asacVolans: look at the bzr log of your own branch :)00:37
asacdktrkranz used such a commit before upload00:38
Volans initial release of 1.0.6-0ubuntu1 to ubuntu/hardy00:39
Volansyes00:39
asacyeah ;)00:39
VolansI can push on the already used ubuntu-it-menu.LP215375?00:42
asacVolans: sure00:43
asacbug 19751400:46
ubotuLaunchpad bug 197514 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome "VIA/S3G VT8623 [Apollo CLE266] display no longer works" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19751400:46
Volansasac: done :D00:46
ftaBug 21543900:46
ubotuLaunchpad bug 215439 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox stores cookies incorrectly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21543900:46
Volans(I hope correctly)00:46
asacVolans: looks fine :)00:47
Volansthanks for the patience :) other things to do? Otherwise I go...00:49
asacVolans: all fine. night! thanks for fixing these tedious licensing issues.00:50
VolansNo problem, sorry for my error about GPLv3... good night00:51
asacfta: Accepted: mozilla-devscripts 0.07 (source)00:51
ftagood00:55
=== asac_ is now known as asac
jtvasac: good morning07:00
jtvhey carlos07:55
asachi jtv09:12
asacjtv: carlos: still in queue :(10:26
carlosasac: sorry, I was in a meeting10:46
carlosasac: we just agreed on a way to get that imported right now10:47
carlosasac: tomorrow's lang pack export will include beta5 entries10:47
asaccarlos: thanks. can we also get a separate export?10:48
carlosyeah, once it's imported, you should be able to request an export from the URLs I gave to you10:48
asacok cool. ill try to plumber a langpack on the weekend then10:51
asacdamn. why is pfs now broken :(10:59
carlosasac: btw, firefox and xulrunner templates are going to disappear temporally from Ubuntu to do the import trick11:00
asaccarlos: ok. for how long?11:00
asacfor the time of the import?11:00
carlosI hope no more than 10 minutes11:00
carlosno, just to prepare the import11:00
asaccarlos: btw, we hit the worst case scenario11:00
carlosit will appear again before the import is completed11:00
asacthere is an english text with the same key id11:01
carlosasac: really?11:01
asacbytes=bytes11:01
asacyeah11:01
asacthats the only one i found11:01
asacnow i have a problem with my "empty string" guess11:01
carlosI have a question for you...11:01
carlosbecause using the English if there is no translation may be a problem for us in the future..11:01
asaccarlos: why do you use that? i mean its just included in msgid11:02
carlosisn't Firefox showing the English string if the key is not even available in the xpi file for say, Spanish?11:02
asaccarlos: no thats not guaranteed11:02
carlosthen, if a new message is added to Firefox11:02
asacfor some cases it will do that ... for others the complete UI will be trashed11:02
carlosall xpi files need to be updated ?11:02
carlosthat's soooo broken11:03
asacyes. if a key is added we need a full update. but that shouldn't happen once ffox is released11:03
asace.g. they freeze strings after release11:03
asacindeed its not perfect. but there is a simple technical reason. the fallback is implemented on a per file basis:11:04
asacso if locale/de/test.dtd is not available it will use locale/en-US/test.dtd11:04
asacbut if test.dtd exists and it lacks an entity firefox has not idea that it might be in the en-US file11:04
asacin fact firefox doesn't even know that the entity is in test.dtd ... its just the xml parser doing that11:05
asaccarlos: bad, but thats how it is :(11:05
asacthe bad thing is that the complete UI gets trashed ;)11:05
asacif an entity cannot be resolved :(11:06
carloswell...11:07
carlosmy only suggestion is... do a workaround for 'bytes'11:07
asacyeah11:07
carlosonce xpi exports are implemented in Launchpad, we already know whether we got a translation or not from en-US.xpi11:08
asaccarlos: why can't i know that?11:08
asacis that info just not exported?11:08
carlosbecause we don't have a way to show such metadata in the .po file format11:08
carlosright11:09
carlosI'm all for introduce your changes into Launchpad and provide native .xpi files instead of trying to abuse even more the .po file format to provide you with all that information...11:09
carlosjtv: ^^^11:10
asaccarlos: yeah. but using the .po file as an intermediate step would make things easier11:10
carlosjtv: I think this is something you should discuss with asac, given that I will not be doing that task11:10
asacas the current transformer is based on .po :)11:10
asaccarlos: thanks.11:10
carlosasac: internally, we use our database as that intermediate step11:10
carloswhich is a kind of .po file but with much more metadata11:11
asacyeah11:11
asacthats ok11:11
asaci think that should be discussed for intrepid11:11
asacjtv: ^^ will you be in prague?11:11
asaccarlos: do you need anything from me for this import round?11:12
asacotherwise i will soon do lucnh11:13
asac:)11:13
carlosasac: no, I already uploaded all .xpi for beta511:13
carlosand the import should start quite soon11:13
asac\o/11:16
* asac hugs carlos 11:16
asacill take an extended lunch now ... firefox just fell apart in pieces without no obvious reason11:17
asaclets hope this is a dream :(11:17
asaceverything will be fine when i return ;)11:17
asaci know it11:17
carlos:-)11:22
carlosasac: enjoy!11:22
* asac lunch11:27
jtvcarlos: back off the phone.  Nasty little problem asac ran into there!11:27
carlosjtv: but with an easy workaround ...11:30
jtvcarlos: if it's only that one case, very easy.11:30
carlosyeah11:31
asaci hope it is the only case :)11:55
* asac reboot12:09
carlosasac: the templates are now updated to beta512:51
carlosasac: translations are being imported now12:51
asaccarlos: rock on12:52
asacdamn ... its really adblock-plus that breaks plugin installer12:52
carlosasac: btw, I moved the templates back to Ubuntu12:54
asacwhat happened to ooo?12:59
asacdid you kill it ... like it deserves it ;)12:59
Volansasac: because the ~ubuntu-dev branch is not still merged and due to versioning rules of ubuntu packages I have fixed the extension version number to 1.0.6.1 in .upstream and merged the changes into ubuntu-it-menu.LP215375 also with the timestamp in debian/changelog updated and a release commit on top.13:04
asacVolans: sounds good (without looking)13:05
asacVolans: did DktrKranz2 already upload?13:05
Volansok, DktrKranz2 help me a bit for that ;)13:05
asacgood :)13:05
Volansupload to ~ubuntu-dev? I don't think so13:05
Volansnot now for sure13:06
asacboth ... push to  ~ubuntu-dev and upload to archive13:06
asacbug 21537513:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 215375 in ubuntu-it-menu "Licensing issues in ubuntu-it-menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21537513:06
asacVolans: i granted freeze exception in bug13:07
asacplease update it after DktrKranz2 has accepted the changes13:08
asacattach the branch to it.13:08
asacor attach a debdiff at least13:08
asacDktrKranz2 would know what to do ;)13:08
Volansto the bug?13:08
asacyes13:08
Volansok :D13:08
asacand be sure that the bug is named in changelog13:08
asacarchive admins have to approve every single package now ... and we can help them by documenting things properly13:08
Volansyes it is:  - Fix license issues (LP: #215375)13:09
asacgood13:09
asacthen that is fine13:09
asacbut a debdiff would be appreciated ... and attaching the branch is good to use launchpad branch feature ;)13:09
VolansI have to add the LP215375 or the upstream branch to the bug?13:13
asaccarlos: I assume if i patch en-US to have bytes=Bytes that would be ok, right?13:15
carlosasac: yeah13:15
asacok. i think i will hardcode bytes manually though ;)13:16
asacouch13:16
Volansasac: adding LP215375 branch to bug and setting it as "fix available"... correct?13:16
asacVolans: the branch meta info? yes.13:18
asacVolans: did you mark your old branch as "merged" already?13:18
asac(differnt topic that is)13:18
Volansthe .ubuntu yes, is set as merged13:18
asacVolans: ok its really gone from the +branches site. thanks13:19
asachi willguaraldi!13:19
willguaraldihello!13:19
Volansbranch added to the bug, for the debdiff I wait DktrKranz2, he come back in 20 minutes I think13:20
asacthats ok13:21
asacwe are frozen anyway :)13:21
asacVolans: the idea is to attach a debdiff ... that is debdiff package*VERSIONold*dsc package*VERSIONnew*dsc13:26
asacthat will represent what has changed and help archive admins to evaluate the risk13:27
Volansok13:28
DktrKranz2asac: I saw you ACKed on 215375, if you agree, I'd merge on ~ubuntu-dev and proceed with upload.13:41
asacDktrKranz2: just push should work (no merge)13:49
asacVolans: worked on top of -dev13:50
asacbut yes.13:50
asacgo ahead13:50
DktrKranz2ok, thanks13:50
asactake  a quick review too ;)13:50
DktrKranz2sure, I reviewed that during preparation phase, so it should be ok, already, but I'll give it a new look now13:50
asac;)13:52
RainCTHi14:20
RainCTasac: should we wait for upstream to fix is or just apply the patch now (if it works)?14:21
asacjimmy_: are you available for some ground work?15:19
asacjimmy_: we have a problem with the gconf patch. it pulls in a new dependency (libgconf) to libxul ... we need to make a real component out of that15:20
asacthe idea is to include the system-pref stub in libxul and make module out of gconf15:20
asacfor that we have to prevent gconf from being build during toolkit-tiers.mk15:20
asacinstead we need to do that when extensions/ would normally be build15:21
asacso basically it should only be some makefile hackery15:21
asacjimmy_: let me know ;)15:21
asacjimmy_: help ;) ?16:28
asacbug 15608517:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 156085 in qemu "Could not open /proc/bus/usb/devices" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15608517:41
cwong1asac: ping18:12
* asac returns19:29
asacfta: in latest cairo, do we still have a (modified version of) beta-bandaid?20:13
xtknighti was told to ping somebody about Bug 21382720:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 213827 in flashplugin-nonfree "typo in prerm file avoids package remove" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21382720:22
asacxtknight: thx20:30
asacxtknight: any idea when that regressed?20:31
xtknightasac, probably starting at 9.0.4820:32
xtknightbecause that's when all the backports begin having trouble too20:32
asaci cannot believe that ;) ... i mean i removed that package for testing purpose a hundred times :)20:33
asaclet me check20:33
asacit removes cleanly for me20:33
asacok that happens when failed-upgrade is run20:34
asacso thats only an intermediate issue. howver, i can confirm this.20:35
xtknightyea worked for me too, i guess his failed an upgrade20:35
asacxtknight: i retitled the bug. subscribed motu-reease for exception added sponsors team. if nobody came around till sunday let me know20:39
xtknightasac, ok thanks20:41
ftaasac, no code change at all, just docs20:45
asacok. that was expected20:47
ftaasac, fyi, cairo 1.6.2 is out21:44
oldhamhi team.21:54
oldham#firefox does exist, but #thunderbird would also be nice!21:55
oldhamfor questions about that email client.21:55
asacoldham: those channels are not ubuntu related :)21:58
oldhamok... :-)22:03
asacfta: does cairo do stable releases now every day or what :) ?22:10
ftait seems 1.6.4 will be out in a few hours22:10
asacor is it because of marketing ... nobody would blieve that .0 is stable ,)22:10
asacgreat nsLocalFile impl is borked. getting .target property on it if its a link of a link will crash ffox ;)22:35
asacfta: haha ;)22:43
asacfta: what regression?22:43
fta?22:43
asacfta: why 1.6.4?22:45
fta1.6.2 already contains 2 fixes, i haven't read for .4 yet22:46
ftaI can't cope with so many bug mails. it's killing me22:50
ftaproblem is if I move them in a folder, i will no longer read them22:51
ftamozilla bug 42261022:56
ubotuMozilla bug 422610 in Location Bar and Autocomplete "Add an option to restore the URL autocompletion in FF3" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42261022:56
ftamozilla bug 42261022:56
ftaoops22:56
asacfta: yeah. i know the problem23:05
asacfta: oh ^^ he is the miro guy23:09
asacif you don't know him yet23:09
ftawho?23:09
asac00:09 -!- willguaraldi [n=willguar@209-6-102-146.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit ["Off I go"]23:09
ftaoh23:09
asache is the one who wants to make miro work nice on ubuntu xulrunner23:09
[reed]he's pculture.org23:10
ftafor me, it's just too slow23:10
asacfta: what is slow?23:10
ftai've used it for a long time but it's not improving at all23:11
ftathe startup time23:11
asacah23:11
fta> 30sec23:11
asacfta: i don't had that in 1.223:11
ftamaybe it depends on the parameters23:11
ftahttp://dromaeo.com/?id=1308,1776,178223:16
fta[reed], ^^ strange isn't it ?23:18
[reed]hmm, yeah23:18
ftahttp://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/04/firefox-logo-sp.html23:31

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