[00:00] <Volans> the changelog entry is already there asac...
[00:02] <Volans> you want this as the first line of changelog: ubuntu-it-menu (1.0.6.1-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
[00:05] <asac> Volans: ok. run dch -r
[00:05] <asac> save that unmodified
[00:05] <asac> then commit with message like what luca did
[00:05] <asac> * release 1.0.6.1-0ubuntu1 to ubuntu/hardy
[00:06] <asac> (use the right version :))
[00:06] <asac> then he can just push that to ~ubuntu-dev and upload
[00:06] <asac> he or me
[00:06] <Volans> 1.0.6.1-0ubuntu1 is not the right version?
[00:15] <asac> no idea ;)
[00:15] <asac> itsprobabyl right ... i just didn't know if its the version you selected for upstream release
[00:17] <Volans> Dktr did it, so I think is correct :)
[00:18] <fta> asac, http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/04/handle-with-care-symantec-on-web-browsers-security/
[00:19] <Volans> UNRELEASED uppercase or lowercase?
[00:19] <fta> uppercase
[00:20] <fta> seems like AMO has 1.0.6, not 1.0.6.1
[00:21] <asac> we are ahead ;)
[00:22] <Volans> asac: add another item in changelog or modify the last from hardy to UNREALEASED?
[00:22] <asac> Volans: if you already added the changelog entry, just edit time or date or something for the release commit
[00:23] <asac> usually it should be UNRELEASED till release
[00:23] <asac> but no reason to backout because of that
[00:24] <Volans> you can check it here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~volans/firefox-extensions/ubuntu-it-menu.LP215375/files for the actual version, tell me if this commit is necessary or not
[00:25] <Volans> sorry for those stupid questions... but it's my first package... :)
[00:26] <asac> Volans: the commit is necessary because if it doesn't exist you cannot find the revision that was uploaded later
[00:26] <asac> (unless you start to use tags)
[00:29] <Volans> asac: sorry but don't understand that. What I have to do in details?
[00:30] <asac> just do a commit on top
[00:30] <asac> since you cannot commit with nothing changed
[00:30] <asac> i suggest that you update the date/time
[00:31] <asac> (usually UNRELEASED -> hardy would be switched for a release)
[00:31] <asac> understood?
[00:31] <asac> Volans: if i look at the branch in a year i want to figure which revision was actually uploaded as 1.0.6.1-0ubuntu1 :)
[00:32] <asac> its easiest to document it by a "release-commit"
[00:34] <Volans> then I have to change hardy to UNRELEASED and also the timestamp in changelog, in order to do the commit, right? (the version in changelog is already 1.0.6.1-0ubuntu1)
[00:34] <Volans> what is a "release-commit"?
[00:35] <fta> a commit containing nothing except UNRELEASED -> hardy + date bump
[00:35] <Volans> ok :D
[00:35] <asac> Volans: but since you don't have UNRELEASED, just date bump is enough
[00:35] <fta> and a clear description in the commit message. We usually use "RELEASE x.y.z-0ubuntu1 to hardy"
[00:36] <Volans> then just a "fake" commit to write this commit message?
[00:36] <fta> we don't use bzr tags
[00:37] <fta> yep
[00:37] <asac> Volans: look at the bzr log of your own branch :)
[00:38] <asac> dktrkranz used such a commit before upload
[00:39] <Volans>  initial release of 1.0.6-0ubuntu1 to ubuntu/hardy
[00:39] <Volans> yes
[00:39] <asac> yeah ;)
[00:42] <Volans> I can push on the already used ubuntu-it-menu.LP215375?
[00:43] <asac> Volans: sure
[00:46] <asac> bug 197514
[00:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 197514 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome "VIA/S3G VT8623 [Apollo CLE266] display no longer works" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197514
[00:46] <Volans> asac: done :D
[00:46] <fta> Bug 215439
[00:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 215439 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox stores cookies incorrectly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215439
[00:46] <Volans> (I hope correctly)
[00:47] <asac> Volans: looks fine :)
[00:49] <Volans> thanks for the patience :) other things to do? Otherwise I go...
[00:50] <asac> Volans: all fine. night! thanks for fixing these tedious licensing issues.
[00:51] <Volans> No problem, sorry for my error about GPLv3... good night
[00:51] <asac> fta: Accepted: mozilla-devscripts 0.07 (source)
[00:55] <fta> good
[07:00] <jtv> asac: good morning
[07:55] <jtv> hey carlos
[09:12] <asac> hi jtv
[10:26] <asac> jtv: carlos: still in queue :(
[10:46] <carlos> asac: sorry, I was in a meeting
[10:47] <carlos> asac: we just agreed on a way to get that imported right now
[10:47] <carlos> asac: tomorrow's lang pack export will include beta5 entries
[10:48] <asac> carlos: thanks. can we also get a separate export?
[10:48] <carlos> yeah, once it's imported, you should be able to request an export from the URLs I gave to you
[10:51] <asac> ok cool. ill try to plumber a langpack on the weekend then
[10:59] <asac> damn. why is pfs now broken :(
[11:00] <carlos> asac: btw, firefox and xulrunner templates are going to disappear temporally from Ubuntu to do the import trick
[11:00] <asac> carlos: ok. for how long?
[11:00] <asac> for the time of the import?
[11:00] <carlos> I hope no more than 10 minutes
[11:00] <carlos> no, just to prepare the import
[11:00] <asac> carlos: btw, we hit the worst case scenario
[11:00] <carlos> it will appear again before the import is completed
[11:01] <asac> there is an english text with the same key id
[11:01] <carlos> asac: really?
[11:01] <asac> bytes=bytes
[11:01] <asac> yeah
[11:01] <asac> thats the only one i found
[11:01] <asac> now i have a problem with my "empty string" guess
[11:01] <carlos> I have a question for you...
[11:01] <carlos> because using the English if there is no translation may be a problem for us in the future..
[11:02] <asac> carlos: why do you use that? i mean its just included in msgid
[11:02] <carlos> isn't Firefox showing the English string if the key is not even available in the xpi file for say, Spanish?
[11:02] <asac> carlos: no thats not guaranteed
[11:02] <carlos> then, if a new message is added to Firefox
[11:02] <asac> for some cases it will do that ... for others the complete UI will be trashed
[11:02] <carlos> all xpi files need to be updated ?
[11:03] <carlos> that's soooo broken
[11:03] <asac> yes. if a key is added we need a full update. but that shouldn't happen once ffox is released
[11:03] <asac> e.g. they freeze strings after release
[11:04] <asac> indeed its not perfect. but there is a simple technical reason. the fallback is implemented on a per file basis:
[11:04] <asac> so if locale/de/test.dtd is not available it will use locale/en-US/test.dtd
[11:04] <asac> but if test.dtd exists and it lacks an entity firefox has not idea that it might be in the en-US file
[11:05] <asac> in fact firefox doesn't even know that the entity is in test.dtd ... its just the xml parser doing that
[11:05] <asac> carlos: bad, but thats how it is :(
[11:05] <asac> the bad thing is that the complete UI gets trashed ;)
[11:06] <asac> if an entity cannot be resolved :(
[11:07] <carlos> well...
[11:07] <carlos> my only suggestion is... do a workaround for 'bytes'
[11:07] <asac> yeah
[11:08] <carlos> once xpi exports are implemented in Launchpad, we already know whether we got a translation or not from en-US.xpi
[11:08] <asac> carlos: why can't i know that?
[11:08] <asac> is that info just not exported?
[11:08] <carlos> because we don't have a way to show such metadata in the .po file format
[11:09] <carlos> right
[11:09] <carlos> I'm all for introduce your changes into Launchpad and provide native .xpi files instead of trying to abuse even more the .po file format to provide you with all that information...
[11:10] <carlos> jtv: ^^^
[11:10] <asac> carlos: yeah. but using the .po file as an intermediate step would make things easier
[11:10] <carlos> jtv: I think this is something you should discuss with asac, given that I will not be doing that task
[11:10] <asac> as the current transformer is based on .po :)
[11:10] <asac> carlos: thanks.
[11:10] <carlos> asac: internally, we use our database as that intermediate step
[11:11] <carlos> which is a kind of .po file but with much more metadata
[11:11] <asac> yeah
[11:11] <asac> thats ok
[11:11] <asac> i think that should be discussed for intrepid
[11:11] <asac> jtv: ^^ will you be in prague?
[11:12] <asac> carlos: do you need anything from me for this import round?
[11:13] <asac> otherwise i will soon do lucnh
[11:13] <asac> :)
[11:13] <carlos> asac: no, I already uploaded all .xpi for beta5
[11:13] <carlos> and the import should start quite soon
[11:16] <asac> \o/
[11:16]  * asac hugs carlos 
[11:17] <asac> ill take an extended lunch now ... firefox just fell apart in pieces without no obvious reason
[11:17] <asac> lets hope this is a dream :(
[11:17] <asac> everything will be fine when i return ;)
[11:17] <asac> i know it
[11:22] <carlos> :-)
[11:22] <carlos> asac: enjoy!
[11:27]  * asac lunch
[11:27] <jtv> carlos: back off the phone.  Nasty little problem asac ran into there!
[11:30] <carlos> jtv: but with an easy workaround ...
[11:30] <jtv> carlos: if it's only that one case, very easy.
[11:31] <carlos> yeah
[11:55] <asac> i hope it is the only case :)
[12:09]  * asac reboot
[12:51] <carlos> asac: the templates are now updated to beta5
[12:51] <carlos> asac: translations are being imported now
[12:52] <asac> carlos: rock on
[12:52] <asac> damn ... its really adblock-plus that breaks plugin installer
[12:54] <carlos> asac: btw, I moved the templates back to Ubuntu
[12:59] <asac> what happened to ooo?
[12:59] <asac> did you kill it ... like it deserves it ;)
[13:04] <Volans> asac: because the ~ubuntu-dev branch is not still merged and due to versioning rules of ubuntu packages I have fixed the extension version number to 1.0.6.1 in .upstream and merged the changes into ubuntu-it-menu.LP215375 also with the timestamp in debian/changelog updated and a release commit on top.
[13:05] <asac> Volans: sounds good (without looking)
[13:05] <asac> Volans: did DktrKranz2 already upload?
[13:05] <Volans> ok, DktrKranz2 help me a bit for that ;)
[13:05] <asac> good :)
[13:05] <Volans> upload to ~ubuntu-dev? I don't think so
[13:06] <Volans> not now for sure
[13:06] <asac> both ... push to  ~ubuntu-dev and upload to archive
[13:06] <asac> bug 215375
[13:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 215375 in ubuntu-it-menu "Licensing issues in ubuntu-it-menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215375
[13:07] <asac> Volans: i granted freeze exception in bug
[13:08] <asac> please update it after DktrKranz2 has accepted the changes
[13:08] <asac> attach the branch to it.
[13:08] <asac> or attach a debdiff at least
[13:08] <asac> DktrKranz2 would know what to do ;)
[13:08] <Volans> to the bug?
[13:08] <asac> yes
[13:08] <Volans> ok :D
[13:08] <asac> and be sure that the bug is named in changelog
[13:08] <asac> archive admins have to approve every single package now ... and we can help them by documenting things properly
[13:09] <Volans> yes it is:  - Fix license issues (LP: #215375)
[13:09] <asac> good
[13:09] <asac> then that is fine
[13:09] <asac> but a debdiff would be appreciated ... and attaching the branch is good to use launchpad branch feature ;)
[13:13] <Volans> I have to add the LP215375 or the upstream branch to the bug?
[13:15] <asac> carlos: I assume if i patch en-US to have bytes=Bytes that would be ok, right?
[13:15] <carlos> asac: yeah
[13:16] <asac> ok. i think i will hardcode bytes manually though ;)
[13:16] <asac> ouch
[13:16] <Volans> asac: adding LP215375 branch to bug and setting it as "fix available"... correct?
[13:18] <asac> Volans: the branch meta info? yes.
[13:18] <asac> Volans: did you mark your old branch as "merged" already?
[13:18] <asac> (differnt topic that is)
[13:18] <Volans> the .ubuntu yes, is set as merged
[13:19] <asac> Volans: ok its really gone from the +branches site. thanks
[13:19] <asac> hi willguaraldi!
[13:19] <willguaraldi> hello!
[13:20] <Volans> branch added to the bug, for the debdiff I wait DktrKranz2, he come back in 20 minutes I think
[13:21] <asac> thats ok
[13:21] <asac> we are frozen anyway :)
[13:26] <asac> Volans: the idea is to attach a debdiff ... that is debdiff package*VERSIONold*dsc package*VERSIONnew*dsc
[13:27] <asac> that will represent what has changed and help archive admins to evaluate the risk
[13:28] <Volans> ok
[13:41] <DktrKranz2> asac: I saw you ACKed on 215375, if you agree, I'd merge on ~ubuntu-dev and proceed with upload.
[13:49] <asac> DktrKranz2: just push should work (no merge)
[13:50] <asac> Volans: worked on top of -dev
[13:50] <asac> but yes.
[13:50] <asac> go ahead
[13:50] <DktrKranz2> ok, thanks
[13:50] <asac> take  a quick review too ;)
[13:50] <DktrKranz2> sure, I reviewed that during preparation phase, so it should be ok, already, but I'll give it a new look now
[13:52] <asac> ;)
[14:20] <RainCT> Hi
[14:21] <RainCT> asac: should we wait for upstream to fix is or just apply the patch now (if it works)?
[15:19] <asac> jimmy_: are you available for some ground work?
[15:20] <asac> jimmy_: we have a problem with the gconf patch. it pulls in a new dependency (libgconf) to libxul ... we need to make a real component out of that
[15:20] <asac> the idea is to include the system-pref stub in libxul and make module out of gconf
[15:20] <asac> for that we have to prevent gconf from being build during toolkit-tiers.mk
[15:21] <asac> instead we need to do that when extensions/ would normally be build
[15:21] <asac> so basically it should only be some makefile hackery
[15:21] <asac> jimmy_: let me know ;)
[16:28] <asac> jimmy_: help ;) ?
[17:41] <asac> bug 156085
[17:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 156085 in qemu "Could not open /proc/bus/usb/devices" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156085
[18:12] <cwong1> asac: ping
[19:29]  * asac returns
[20:13] <asac> fta: in latest cairo, do we still have a (modified version of) beta-bandaid?
[20:22] <xtknight> i was told to ping somebody about Bug 213827
[20:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 213827 in flashplugin-nonfree "typo in prerm file avoids package remove" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/213827
[20:30] <asac> xtknight: thx
[20:31] <asac> xtknight: any idea when that regressed?
[20:32] <xtknight> asac, probably starting at 9.0.48
[20:32] <xtknight> because that's when all the backports begin having trouble too
[20:33] <asac> i cannot believe that ;) ... i mean i removed that package for testing purpose a hundred times :)
[20:33] <asac> let me check
[20:33] <asac> it removes cleanly for me
[20:34] <asac> ok that happens when failed-upgrade is run
[20:35] <asac> so thats only an intermediate issue. howver, i can confirm this.
[20:35] <xtknight> yea worked for me too, i guess his failed an upgrade
[20:39] <asac> xtknight: i retitled the bug. subscribed motu-reease for exception added sponsors team. if nobody came around till sunday let me know
[20:41] <xtknight> asac, ok thanks
[20:45] <fta> asac, no code change at all, just docs
[20:47] <asac> ok. that was expected
[21:44] <fta> asac, fyi, cairo 1.6.2 is out
[21:54] <oldham> hi team.
[21:55] <oldham> #firefox does exist, but #thunderbird would also be nice!
[21:55] <oldham> for questions about that email client.
[21:58] <asac> oldham: those channels are not ubuntu related :)
[22:03] <oldham> ok... :-)
[22:10] <asac> fta: does cairo do stable releases now every day or what :) ?
[22:10] <fta> it seems 1.6.4 will be out in a few hours
[22:10] <asac> or is it because of marketing ... nobody would blieve that .0 is stable ,)
[22:35] <asac> great nsLocalFile impl is borked. getting .target property on it if its a link of a link will crash ffox ;)
[22:43] <asac> fta: haha ;)
[22:43] <asac> fta: what regression?
[22:43] <fta> ?
[22:45] <asac> fta: why 1.6.4?
[22:46] <fta> 1.6.2 already contains 2 fixes, i haven't read for .4 yet
[22:50] <fta> I can't cope with so many bug mails. it's killing me
[22:51] <fta> problem is if I move them in a folder, i will no longer read them
[22:56] <fta> mozilla bug 422610
[22:56] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 422610 in Location Bar and Autocomplete "Add an option to restore the URL autocompletion in FF3" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=422610
[22:56] <fta> mozilla bug 422610
[22:56] <fta> oops
[23:05] <asac> fta: yeah. i know the problem
[23:09] <asac> fta: oh ^^ he is the miro guy
[23:09] <asac> if you don't know him yet
[23:09] <fta> who?
[23:09] <asac> 00:09 -!- willguaraldi [n=willguar@209-6-102-146.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit ["Off I go"]
[23:09] <fta> oh
[23:09] <asac> he is the one who wants to make miro work nice on ubuntu xulrunner
[23:10] <[reed]> he's pculture.org
[23:10] <fta> for me, it's just too slow
[23:10] <asac> fta: what is slow?
[23:11] <fta> i've used it for a long time but it's not improving at all
[23:11] <fta> the startup time
[23:11] <asac> ah
[23:11] <fta> > 30sec
[23:11] <asac> fta: i don't had that in 1.2
[23:11] <fta> maybe it depends on the parameters
[23:16] <fta> http://dromaeo.com/?id=1308,1776,1782
[23:18] <fta> [reed], ^^ strange isn't it ?
[23:18] <[reed]> hmm, yeah
[23:31] <fta> http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/04/firefox-logo-sp.html