[00:17] <nixternal_> nalioth: ping-a-ling
[00:22] <nalioth> nixternal_: dong-a-long
[00:23] <nixternal_> woot, you are here
[00:24] <nixternal_> hey, what is the IP for nixternal?
[00:24] <nixternal_> comcast is starting to piss me off switching my IP around
[00:24] <nixternal_> I have my homework on the server my irssi is running at home, and I need to turn it in :)
[00:25] <nixternal> thank you nalioth!
[01:22] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[01:25] <nalioth> klined
[01:53] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[01:53] <ubotu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[01:53] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[01:54] <nalioth> klined
[02:02] <jdong> could I get klined some time for fun and curiousity?
[02:02] <jdong> I've always wondered what actually happens :D
[02:02] <Seeker`> jdong: Imagine being banned from a channel, but with a network instead
[02:02] <Seeker`> I suspect
[02:03] <PriceChild> jdong: you get a little message, and can't reconnect?
[02:03] <jdong> Seeker`: pfft it's no fun hearing about it...
[02:03] <jdong> PriceChild: well I figure it's something like that
[02:42]  * nickrud points nalioth at jdong 
[02:57] <ubot3> In ubot3, ubotu said: protonchris wants you to know: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[02:57] <nalioth> lovely
[02:58] <ubotu> Pelo called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[03:01] <Seeker`> is Pelo no longer an op?
[03:02] <tonyyarusso> not on the list
[03:03] <LjL> he's not an op
[03:03] <LjL> he'd rather concentrate on support
[03:05] <tonyyarusso> good for him
[03:05] <Seeker`> fair enough
[03:06] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[03:07] <ubotu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[03:07] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[03:07] <Seeker`> looks like it only got 1 person
[03:09] <Seeker`> LjL: uppp just got muted by floodbot, cant really see why
[03:09] <LjL> Seeker`: he repeated the same message ("yes") twice, that gives you three points instead of just one in the flood count
[03:09] <nickrud> too many enters in a row
[03:09] <Seeker`> ah, ok 
[03:09] <Seeker`> fair enough
[03:09] <LjL> but yes, that's probably overzealous
[03:10] <LjL> i'll look at it
[03:10] <Seeker`> how many "points" are you allowed?
[03:10] <LjL> 4 lines before a warn, 6 before a mute
[03:10] <LjL> line=point
[03:10] <LjL> certain kinds of lines give you more points
[03:10] <nickrud> not really, he'd had like 12 lines while all the rest of the channel had 5 0r 6
[03:11] <nickrud> hyperbole , but still got his attention 
[03:12] <LjL> nickrud: ok, but if you look at the timestamps, the actual "flood" really started at the "yes".
[03:12] <LjL> the other lines were too far back.
[03:13] <LjL> so it's simply not doing what i intended it to do
[03:13] <LjL> in this case it might have done the right thing anyway, but if it's coincidence, that doesn't help
[03:13] <nickrud> LjL ah, I thought it wasn't overzealous, but should have told him why
[04:12] <tritium> Hobbsee: what's the background on the CC Agenda item?
[04:12] <Hobbsee> tritium: paladine disagrees with emma's ban, as he disagrees with the general definition of spam, like emma does.
[04:13] <Hobbsee> tritium: and they don't like the irc council decision about allowing irseek, so are appealing that to the CC too
[04:13] <Amaranth> Whee
[04:13] <Hobbsee> i can undersatnd them.  If you have such a strange definition of spam, and don't agree with ours, then sure, i could see how it could be an abuse of power
[04:14] <Hobbsee> however, seeing as their definition of spam also allows all spam email to be classed as non-spam, i'm afraid we can't agree with their definition.
[04:14] <tritium> Hobbsee: I see.  Thanks.
[04:14] <Amaranth> It doesn't help that Paladine is feels like he is entitled to things because "he fights the good fight"
[04:15] <Amaranth> But I'm going to get myself in trouble
[04:15] <Hobbsee> i'm sure most people fight the good fight.
[04:15] <Hobbsee> The crux of the problem is the different definitions of spam.
[04:15] <Hobbsee> Once you actually define a correct definition of spam (or at least, what the CC regards as spam), it should all fall through pretty quickly.
[04:16] <tritium> I'll try to attend to lend my support.
[04:17] <Hobbsee> if it turns out that the irc council definition of spam *is* wrong, then i expect they'll throw out the council and start again.
[04:19] <tritium> I'd not expect that to happen.
[04:19] <nickrud> I see no date, is that correct or is it scheduled and the page not updated?
[04:20] <Hobbsee> that's correct.
[04:20] <Hobbsee> they're planning one at some point
[04:23] <DBO> ping elkbuntu 
[04:23] <elkbuntu> DBO, pong?
[04:23] <Amaranth> DBO: bug fixed
[04:23] <DBO> how active are you in Ubuntu these days?
[04:23] <DBO> Amaranth, fantastic!
[04:23] <DBO> Amaranth, you can help too =)
[04:23] <Amaranth> well, the dh_strip stuff anyway
[04:23] <elkbuntu> DBO, not terribly. why?
[04:23] <DBO> you still doing the loco stuff?
[04:24] <Amaranth> apparently they may be some other problem that is still breaking the shadows
[04:24] <DBO> eep
[04:24] <elkbuntu> DBO, on what level do you mean?
[04:25] <DBO> well I was thinking to myself today, what a fine laptop I have.  It occurs to me the lot of us, not just me, owe System76 a thank you of sorts.  Not to mention that encouraging new users to get a 76 can't hurt the cause
[04:26] <DBO> I was hoping with the help of my friends here, and the guys on the forum, as well as anyone who can post to planet.gnome or planet.ubuntu
[04:26] <Amaranth> I'd rather tell them to get a Dell
[04:26] <DBO> we could put on some kind of System76 appreciation day
[04:26] <DBO> Dell doesn't directly get down and dirty like the 76 guys do though...
[04:26] <Amaranth> Strategically it would be better if they got a Dell
[04:26] <Seeker`> DBO: How much are System76 paying you?
[04:27] <Amaranth> Even though System76 _is_ fucking awesome
[04:27] <DBO> Seeker`, with love =)
[04:27] <Amaranth> That was worth swearing, trust me :P
[04:27] <DBO> they are!
[04:27] <DBO> so anyhow, thats my idea...
[04:27] <DBO> I wan't to try to make it happen somehow
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> DBO: My sister needs a laptop for college, and I'm strongly considering recommending a system76 for her.  It's either that, a Dell with Ubuntu, or a Lenovo with SuSE (to be converted to Ubuntu)
[04:28] <DBO> tonyyarusso, the 76 has been wonderful so far
[04:28] <Amaranth> The System76 guys seem to bend over backwards to help too
[04:28] <tonyyarusso> DBO: If you can get them to rectify doctormo's issue by the end of next week, I may be able to be talked into Planetifying something ;)
[04:28] <DBO> they also do crazy things like overnight posters and stickers to loco parties
[04:28] <tonyyarusso> yes, I need to put in my poster order this weekend
[04:29] <tritium> DBO: which model did you get?
[04:29] <DBO> tonyyarusso, fair enough.  I will come back when I have had a chance to talk to more people.  But I am hoping to get something organized for middle of May
[04:29] <DBO> tritium, a Gazelle Performance
[04:30] <tritium> Gazelle, or Serval?
[04:32] <DBO> Gazelle
[04:34] <tritium> Just checking, since their website now calls it the Gazelle "Value"
[04:35] <DBO> the Performance is the version of the Gazelle with a nvidia card
[04:36] <tritium> Ah.
[04:37] <tritium> I wish they'd refresh their offerings.
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> me too, although I'm sure rechecking all of the hardware is a pain.
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> Maybe they'll have some new hardware to match the new software version.
[05:40] <ubotu> In ubotu, thunc said: ubotu: bot is that? . I can't find a Renfield and send us the civilization. " "Okay " - The ord ers had to open my cd key was used too many assumprtions about HTML to parse excel csv's
[05:44] <elkbuntu> o.O
[05:44] <elkbuntu> ok, does *anyone* understand that?
[05:45] <Hobbsee> no
[05:45] <nickrud> what, you expect to understand everything ;)
[05:46] <elkbuntu> no, but i expect people trying to get help to.
[05:49] <nickrud> at least it was in /msg . And only a one time thing. Chalk it up to drugs, alcohol or experimentation
[05:54] <nalioth> thunc is an automaton 
[05:54] <nalioth> it is designed to troll channels
[05:55] <nalioth> if it's not an automaton, it has scripts in it that make it appear as such
[05:55] <nalioth> but 'troll' is a good description
[05:57] <nickrud> hm. thunc was in the ubuntu channel but didn't seem odd, maybe it fastened onto ubotu by luck
[06:38] <ubotu> In ubotu, thunc said: ubotu: is when i login. Cause there are thousands of dairies in the Xorg dri module in here the man said, and see an explaination of error code describing the problem helps when asking people to actually talk about shit

[06:44] <ubotu> In ubotu, thunc said: ubotu: bot is confused. bot from hell
[06:59] <ubotu> In ubotu, thunc said: ubotu: ubotu is a question.  but no, of course, sorry.
[07:22] <ubotu> In ubotu, thunc said: ubotu: bot is confused.  "Annette! " he calls out, responding to his predicament.
[07:23] <ubotu> In ubotu, thunc said: ubotu: bot is busted. I'm Jewish
[07:25] <jussio1> oh, please... :/
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> If Seveas were online, ubotu does actually have an ignore list.
[07:27] <ubotu> In ubotu, thunc said:  "When is my sound is automatically muted
[07:29] <jussio1> tonyyarusso: really?
[07:29] <Hobbsee> yeha, it does
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> jussio1: yup indeedy
[07:29] <jussio1> seveas is online, just not here :/ (dont no if active though)
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> prolly not, but it might be worth a msg?
[07:30] <jussio1> actually, he was active 6 mins ago in offtopic... so eah
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> good point
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> Should be taken care of.  Going to bed now.
[07:39] <jussio1> :)
[07:59] <ubotu> Flannel called the ops in #ubuntu (pyguyy)
[08:00] <Madpilot> why on earth isn't flannel an op yet?
[08:02]  * jussi01 hates it when he gets his syntax wrong :/
[08:59] <ubotu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (clone flood)
[08:59] <ubotu> unop called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[08:59] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood)
[08:59] <ubotu> _Andrew called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[09:00] <nalioth> klined
[09:00] <Jucato> whew
[09:00] <jussi01> :)
[09:00] <Mez> hehe, and good old floodbot sorted it out anyways
[09:00] <Amaranth> FloodBot takes care of everything
[09:01] <jussi01> wow, that was sme show :/
[09:01] <Amaranth> Bot put us out of work :P
[09:01] <Amaranth> All we have to do is pass things on to freenode staff and ban the occasional moron :)
[09:01] <nalioth> somebody went for the trifecta
[09:01] <Amaranth> ?
[09:02] <Mez> and Amaranth with naloth here, we dont even need to pass it on
[09:02] <nalioth>  #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu 
[09:02] <Mez> ah
[09:02] <Mez> hehe
[09:02] <Amaranth> ah
[09:02] <Mez> didnt notice the others
[09:44] <hischild> sorry to bug you all, but can someone come over to #ubuntu?
[09:44] <jpatrick> hischild: what's up?
[09:45] <jpatrick> oh, I see
[09:45] <hischild> 1 idiot giving useless advice and the other being annoying.
[09:46] <jpatrick> looks like nal's on the case :)
[09:46] <hischild> i have no idea who has ops there so i just came to bug you =)
[09:46] <hischild> thanks
[09:47] <jpatrick> hischild: see: /msg ChanServ access #ubuntu list
[09:48] <jpatrick> but, here is a good place too
[09:48] <hischild> those with access 10 are ops?
[09:48] <jpatrick> yes
[09:48] <jpatrick> 10 and above
[09:48] <hischild> ok tnx
[09:54] <ubotu> Chousuke called the ops in #ubuntu (pat5star)
[09:55] <Amaranth> Known person?
[09:55] <Amaranth> Oh, I see.
[09:55] <Madpilot> general stupidity, esp with bash commands
[09:55] <elkbuntu> nick does ring a bell...
[09:55] <elkbuntu> @btlogin
[09:58] <elkbuntu> and for a reason, he was around about a fortnight ago for trying to debate who started ubuntu
[10:00] <jpatrick>  /whois sabdfl
[10:02] <elkbuntu> heh
[10:12] <stdin> Karl is apparently /msg'ing random stuff
[10:13] <stdin> *Kral
[10:15] <jpatrick> well, staff can be /msg'ed at any time
[10:15] <jpatrick> and he quit
[10:24] <jpatrick>  /whois pat5star
[10:24] <jpatrick> "channels : #troll ##linux"
[10:25] <Jucato> Born to Troll...
[10:25] <jpatrick> popey: incidently does "Patrick Wallwork" ring a bell?
[10:26] <Jucato> (no.. but "Patrick Davies" does... :P)
[10:29] <ubotu> bazhang called the ops in #ubuntu (Drum)
[10:30] <Amaranth> Sweet FloodBot autobans people who notice the channel?
[10:30] <Madpilot> apparently
 WARNING: Channel CTCP/NOTICE from Drum, banned
[10:30] <Madpilot> which country is .lv?
[10:31] <jpatrick> lativa?
[10:31] <stdin> GeoIP Country Edition: LV, Latvia
[10:31] <jpatrick> almost got it :)
[10:32] <Madpilot> jpatrick, close but for actual spelling ;)
[10:32] <Madpilot> 0230 here, I'm going to leave the trolls and spammers to the rest of you. night
 <FloodBot1> WARNING: Channel CTCP/NOTICE from Drum, banned <-- shouldnt it kick aswell as ban?
[10:36] <nalioth> the ban quiets
[10:36] <stdin> Mez: floodbots aren't infallible
[10:37] <ubotu> bazhang called the ops in #ubuntu (dud3)
[10:37] <nalioth> klined
[10:37] <Mez> stdin, I know, but they have the ability to kick
[10:38] <Mez> I was asking cause it would take me about 20 seconds to add it to the code (and 5 minutes to reboot the bot and propagate it's code)
[10:38] <stdin> Mez: it's possible that it was a mistake so they shouldn't be kicked, but it's not normally the case I know
[10:39] <Mez> stdin, they should be banned but not kicked ? *shrugs*
[10:39] <jpatrick>  /remove sounds better
[10:39] <stdin> well ban stops them from sending any more messages, so that leaves it up to an op to decide as the danger is passed
[10:40] <stdin> Mez: I do think that people who do the dcc exploit should be auto kb'd though
[10:40] <Mez> definately, they're currently only banned right?
[10:40] <Amaranth> They are autokilled by nalioth
[10:41] <stdin> FB's currently ban yes, but not /remove
[10:41] <stdin> Amaranth: not always
[10:41] <stdin> I'm not sure if it's even enabled now
[10:41] <Amaranth> stdin: Wanna test? :)
[10:41] <nalioth> Amaranth: not any more
[10:41] <stdin> no thanks ;)
[10:42] <Mez> nalioth, would you be happy for them to be auto-kicked?
[10:43] <nalioth> Mez: who?
[10:43] <Mez> exploiters
[10:43] <nalioth> you mean the DCC gang?
[10:43] <Mez> yeah
[10:44] <nalioth> how accurate will your regex be?
[10:45] <Mez> nalioth, well, you know when it gets a mask to ban for those using the exploit?
[10:46] <Mez> it'll be the nick used on that line, and they'll just be /removed
[10:46] <stdin> in other words, they are already auto-banned by the bots, but would it be ok to follow that with a /remove
[10:48] <nalioth> ah
[10:48] <nalioth> what does it matter, if they can't send to the channel?
[10:50] <Mez> more chance of them causing more mayhem through snarfling the nicklist ?
[10:50] <Mez> http://rafb.net/p/sqGtel45.html <-- proposed
[10:52] <nalioth> Mez: if they're in the channel for half a second, they've got the nick list
[10:52] <jussi01> someone tell me where to change the language on gnome? Im on a finnish system and cant remember where it is...
[10:52] <jussi01> whoops, wrong chan... sorry
[10:53] <Mez> nalioth, depends on the client, whether it's an automated attack or not, etc etc.
[10:53] <nalioth> Mez: assume they get it
[10:56] <popey> 10:25:58 <+jpatrick> popey: incidently does "Patrick Wallwork" ring a bell?
[10:56] <popey> no, should it?
[10:59] <Mez> nalioth, never assume. plus removing is sensible on a ban IMO
[11:00] <jpatrick> fun
[11:01] <nalioth> Mez: when tactics are in question, always assume
[11:01] <nalioth> that way, you take all possible vectors into consideration
[11:02] <Mez> nalioth, which server went down there out of curiosity, there were 3 users from my office on 3 different servers and they all got different netsplit messages (though I know it does "Myserver/ irc.freenode.net")
[11:02] <jpatrick> "Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net"
[11:03] <Mez> jpatrick, make that 4 then
[11:03] <Mez> I assume it was some anonymous hub somewhere
[11:05] <spb> it looked from here like a hiccup between two hubs
[11:06] <Mez> spb: strange thing is - apparently efnet had a split at nearly the same time
[11:08] <jpatrick> and blitzed.org
[11:08] <Mez> o_O
[11:08] <Mez> so thats what rm -rf /interweb/irc/links/*
[11:09] <Mez> does
[11:10] <elkbuntu> most major irc networks share datacentres
[11:10] <Mez> yeah, 
[11:11]  * Mez guesses it was layer3
[11:11] <Mez> or above.net
[11:11] <Mez> actually, above.net has been having MASSIVE problems of late
[11:52] <jpatrick> tonyyarusso: Klassniy has spammed #kde, #kubuntu, and #ubuntu
[11:52] <jpatrick> tomaw: *
[11:52] <tomaw> nod, just looking into it now
[11:53] <jpatrick> I /remove'd it from those channels after spamage
[11:53] <tomaw> aye
[11:57] <jpatrick> wb Mez 
[11:57] <jussi01> afternoon Pricey 
[11:58] <Pricey> allo :)
[11:58] <jpatrick> tomaw: did you kill it in the end? /me has too remember to remove bans later
[12:01] <tomaw> jpatrick: I haven't.  He seems to be sitting fairly idle now.
[12:01] <jpatrick> ok
[12:10] <ubotu> jpatrick called the ops in #ubuntu+1 (padonaklox)
[12:11] <jpatrick> tomaw: there he is
[12:11] <tomaw> he's gone
[14:11] <hischild> can anyone put a hold on the useless package discussion on #ubuntu?
[14:11] <Pici> hischild: I'll intervene.
[14:12] <hischild> ty Pici 
[14:13] <Pici> hischild: thanks for the heads up.
[14:14] <hischild> Pici, that's what i'm here for. Thanks for the quick action
[14:16] <Piero_Scarufii> Hi, anyone here
[14:16] <PriceChild> Hey Piero_Scarufii, what's up?
[14:16] <Piero_Scarufii> i just wanted to apologize for the workload i caused yesterday 
[14:17] <Piero_Scarufii> because today i am fine
[14:17] <Piero_Scarufii> :)
[14:17] <PriceChild> No need to apologise Piero_Scarufii :)
[14:17] <Piero_Scarufii> so Mez you have my permission to interview christel for amarok radio
[14:18] <Mez> Piero_Scarufii, I need your permission ?
[14:18] <Piero_Scarufii> hehe it was a joke
[14:18] <Mez> and it's Radio Amarok
[14:18] <Piero_Scarufii> i wanted to get your attention to apologize to you esp. since i upset you yesterday
[14:18] <Mez> Piero_Scarufii, if it was a joke - went way over my head
[14:19] <Piero_Scarufii> i felt sorry for what i did yesterday
[14:19] <Piero_Scarufii> thats all just wanted to say i am sorry for causing so much work
[14:19] <Mez> Piero_Scarufii, it wasn't really upset. It was more the fact that I'd spent a long time working on helping you, and then left, and came back an hour or so later, and there were even more issues.
[14:19] <Mez> Piero_Scarufii, but, thankyou, apology accepted (even though an apology wasn't neccesarily needed)
[14:19] <Piero_Scarufii> Ok Mez i was too impatient to notice
[14:20] <Piero_Scarufii> for me it was
[14:20] <Piero_Scarufii> necessary thanks for accepting
[14:20] <Piero_Scarufii> so i go now bu bye :)
[14:20] <Pici> How odd.
[14:20] <Mez> nice though.
[14:20] <LjL> i'm unbanning.
[14:20] <LjL> &wgius piero_scarufii
[14:21]  * Mez has removed from -ot (Seveas placed the ban and isnt going to be here to deal with it anyway)
[14:21] <LjL> -ot?
[14:22] <Mez> -offtopic
[14:22] <Pricey> There was a ban in -offtopic too? When did that happen?!
[14:22] <Pici> Was he in there?
[14:22] <Mez> Pricey, last night, when he insulted Sev out of the blue
[14:23] <Pricey> that football chant thing?
[14:23] <Mez> Pricey, yeah. Sev banned him for that
[14:23] <Pricey> right
[14:23] <LjL> well i see my own ban isn't there, so i guess i'm not removing it
[14:24] <Mez> Seveas is refusing to come back to -ops for a while. so we have to deal with it anyways
[14:24] <Pricey> LjL, I think I removed that one yesterday.
[14:26] <Mez> Pricey, you in your staff role today ?
[14:26] <Pricey> Mez, whatcha need?
[14:26] <Mez> Pricey, daju has been waiting for a cloak in #freenode for ages now ;)
[14:27] <Pricey> Mez, I'll see if he still needs help... knew there was a couple of important channels I forgot to join. Seems like there's a staffer on stats p/voiced in there though.
[14:28] <Mez> Pricey, who's been idling for ages
[14:28] <LjL> staff that's active is unvoiced, you get voiced when you're away, it appears :)
[14:29] <Mez> * [dmwaters] idle 00:50:54, signon: Fri Apr 11 13:34:57
[14:31] <Pricey> although on stats p, hilights always help a lot as we don't follow #freenode religiously
[14:32] <Mez> his name was said a few times ;)
[14:33] <Pricey> okies
[14:51] <LjL> [15:45:40] <sudobash> hey umm.... I have a few questions I would like to Ubuntu... Could you possibly talk to the other admins again.... or remove the ban from #ubuntu-ops
[14:51] <LjL> [15:46:00] <sudobash> to ask in #ubuntu *
[14:51] <LjL> i can't see a ban here, myself... can you check
[14:53] <LjL> ... oh.
[14:53] <LjL> sudobash: here you go. i couldn't find your ban.
[14:54] <sudobash> thank you...
[14:55] <LjL> sudobash, feel free to make your case, i'm listening, and i think so are others
[14:55] <sudobash> I was curious if the ops have decided on a permanent ban or if it not could it be lifted for technical questions pertaining to Ubuntu?
[14:56] <LjL> there is no decision on a permanent ban that i'm aware of
[14:56] <sudobash> I know I was a troll for a day or so but I was having a bad week but that is all over and done for....
[14:57] <sudobash> and if you would lift my ban I can contribute in any way possible
[14:57] <LjL> sudobash: so now you're familiar with the guidelines and CoC, as well as the other subtleties you should keep in mind when being in Ubuntu channels, and are prepared to go according to them?
[14:57] <sudobash> yes
[14:59] <LjL> does anyway see a problem with lifting sudobash's ban?
[14:59] <LjL> anyone
[15:00] <Pricey> nope, its been a while
[15:00] <Pici> sudobash: I'd like to just interject that giving bad advice is also frowned upon.  
[15:00] <Pricey> looking at the bantracker, i 'think' he may be on the autoremove..
[15:01] <sudobash> i will go no advice unless i am completely aware of it's intention... but which bad advice are you speaking of?
[15:01] <sudobash> give*
[15:03] <LjL> Pricey: he was.
[15:03] <Pici> sudobash: I can't recall off the top of my head. 
[15:03] <LjL> sudobash, you should be able to rejoin #ubuntu. bad advice is thing unsupported by #ubuntu, for instance recommending enabling root, or using automatix, or generally doing things in ways unsupported by the official documentation, and us.
[15:04] <spb> that's quite some definition of 'bad' you have there
[15:05] <LjL> mneptok can probably confirm that definition
[15:06] <hischild> since i'm not sure, i'd like to know if it's ok if i idle in here since i seem to call some of you quite often. If the answer is no, naturally i'll stay at #ubuntu and only join when needed. 
[15:06] <Myrtti> See topic
[15:06] <LjL> hischild, currently the policy is that only operators should idle in here, while others should only join when there is a necessity.
[15:06] <hischild> right
[15:07] <LjL> hischild: i think i don't see a problem with you idling here though, at the moment
[15:07] <sudobash> I'm out then.... Thank You Operators...
[15:07] <hischild> well if you want me out feel free to kick me out (don't think i got auto-rejoin on) or just tell me. 
[15:09] <hischild> otherwise i'd thank you for letting me stay =)
[15:09]  * Hobbsee doesn't see why, as the logs are close enough to real time anyway...
[21:04] <ubotu> erUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu (guest2008)
[22:43] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)
[22:51] <LjL> [23:49:20] <Charitwo> unban me, floodbot is retarded
[22:51] <LjL> [23:49:44] <LjL> hm?
[22:51] <LjL> [23:49:47] <LjL> doesn't want to test you?
[22:51] <LjL> [23:50:06] <Charitwo> what?
[22:51] <LjL> [23:50:30] <LjL> ?
[22:51] <LjL> [23:50:45] <Charitwo> unban me from #ubuntu , floodbot is retarded
[22:51] <LjL> [23:50:57] <LjL> sure, i'll unban you after you test your connection
[22:51] <ikonia> always with an attitude
[22:51] <Seeker`> fun
[22:52] <Seeker`> ikonia: Dont you know, the more obnoxious you are, the quicker you get unbanned
[22:52] <LjL> [23:51:09] <Charitwo> i dont have those means sorry
[22:52] <LjL> [23:51:17] <LjL> what means?
[22:52] <LjL> [23:51:27] <Charitwo> i have absolutely no control over the router
[22:52] <LjL> [23:51:45] <LjL> follow the instructions, there is an alternative workaround if you can do nothing about the router. it works.
[22:52] <LjL> [23:51:52] <LjL> if it doesn't work, then ask in #ubuntu-ops
[22:52] <ikonia> this is leading somewhere
[22:52] <ikonia> I feel a punchline
[22:53] <Seveas> ...and they lived happily ever after
[22:53] <hischild> even i managed to fix it. And that says something as my router is pretty retarded.