| Kamping_Kaiser | 'doesnt work' doesnt help | 00:05 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | afk. going to work | 00:07 |
| n6rej | I don't know how to be more clear :( | 00:08 |
| n6rej | if I try to access the mail from my windows box it says plain text authentication can't be used, and If I say secure it says its not setup for secure, and if I telnet it says nothing at all just blank. | 00:09 |
| Centaur5 | Could anybody that has owned or does own an Adaptec hardware raid card tell me if they have decent monitoring software that works in Ubuntu? | 00:33 |
| J-_ | what file do I have to configure to use vhosts? | 04:03 |
| centaur5 | I get access denied when trying to add windows xp to a samba domain. What would cause this when machine and user are added? | 04:18 |
| n6rej | can anyone help me create a user that can ftp into /var/www? | 05:12 |
| mactimes | Hi. I've just installed Ubuntu Server in a VM, using RAID1 for all partitions, to test it's behavior in case of a disk failure. I went through the same steps to install a debian server. Debian could still boot after removing one of the disks, but Ubuntu isn't. Could someone, please, help me out? | 05:23 |
| nijaba | mactimes: could you check if your problem is similar to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/125471 and eventually add your configuration and comment about debian on it? | 05:52 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 125471 in mdadm "Booting from a degraded array could be improved" [Medium,Confirmed] | 05:52 |
| mactimes | nijaba: This is the problem. | 05:53 |
| mactimes | nijaba: Exactly the same | 05:53 |
| mactimes | nijaba: I was afraid I was doing something wrong, but I reinstalled both systems 3 times each, just to make sure. | 05:54 |
| mactimes | nijaba: Debian won't fail, but Ubuntu will give me busy box shell. | 05:55 |
| nijaba | Could you add a comment to it, please, mentioning your experience with debian? | 05:55 |
| osmosis | if KVM is what is officially supported by Ubuntu now, how come no one has updated the doc?! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM | 05:55 |
| nijaba | osmosis: the doc in progress is published on doc.ubuntu.com | 05:55 |
| nijaba | osmosis: it will be moved to help.ubuntu.com at release time | 05:56 |
| nijaba | osmosis: you will see that we have somehow done our homework | 05:56 |
| osmosis | oh.. well.. good to hear then. cheers. | 05:56 |
| mactimes | nijaba: Sure, I can. But I don't see the point. I've been talking to people at #debian a few days ago and, as per information provided by them, Ubuntu packages come from Debian unstable. Would there be a downgrade? | 05:57 |
| nijaba | mactimes: that is not completely true, and initramfs boot is one of the big differences | 06:00 |
| mactimes | nijaba: Hum. Ok. I'll add a comment there, but I guess people will start pursuing me for the comment... | 06:01 |
| nijaba | mactimes: nobody will force you to reply and you can unsubscribe from the bug at any time | 06:02 |
| mactimes | nijaba: Right. | 06:02 |
| nijaba | mactimes: thanks for your help | 06:02 |
| mactimes | nijaba: I'm writing the comment now. | 06:03 |
| nijaba | thanks a lot mactimes | 06:04 |
| mactimes | nijaba: I'll let you know when I'm done. | 06:05 |
| nxvl | does anyone has run ubuntu server on virtualbox? | 06:07 |
| nxvl | i can't run dapper | 06:07 |
| nxvl | i already run the installer | 06:09 |
| nxvl | but i can't run the installed one | 06:09 |
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| mactimes | nijaba: Just posted it there. | 06:27 |
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| MatBoy | hi guys ! | 11:06 |
| MatBoy | is tehre a good tut to upgrade a debian etch box to a ubuntu-server box remotely ? | 11:07 |
| MatBoy | *there | 11:07 |
| henkjan | MatBoy: don't even try | 11:08 |
| henkjan | MatBoy: do a fresh install | 11:09 |
| henkjan | MatBoy: upgrading from debian to ubuntu is a pain | 11:09 |
| MatBoy | henkjan, I thought the same actually, but it seems that people have done it | 11:11 |
| ICU | That people have done it doesn't make it any better :) | 11:27 |
| _ruben | MatBoy: remote upgrade: far from recommended, remote reinstall: possible depending on configuration :) | 11:53 |
| MatBoy | _ruben, shut up :P no but why not ? I can try it remote, and after it I still can go to the DC :D | 11:54 |
| MatBoy | _ruben, are you anywhere ? | 11:55 |
| * _ruben is here | 11:56 | |
| MatBoy | _ruben, where ? | 11:56 |
| _ruben | MatBoy: why not upgrade? dependency hell awaits you | 11:56 |
| * _ruben points | 11:56 | |
| MatBoy | _ruben, if I need to reinstall it, I don't mind | 11:57 |
| MatBoy | better try it than never did it... same as with... youy know :d | 11:57 |
| _ruben | i wouldnt bother trying to upgrade .. i would give it a try using some debootstrap magic .. if you have a spare (temp root) partition available, and ideally a seperate /boot, then odds are looking good | 11:58 |
| MatBoy | yeah I better see a reinstall too, much faster... but I don't want to go to the DC really | 11:59 |
| _ruben | there's howto's available on how to install debian/ubuntu using debootstrap from any os for which debootstrap is avail | 12:00 |
| _ruben | https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/hppa/linux-upgrade.html .. first hit in google ;) | 12:01 |
| MatBoy | _ruben, reinstall is easier ;) | 12:01 |
| _ruben | sure, but if you dont want to go to the DC than this'd be the way to go :) | 12:05 |
| henkjan | dist-upgrade from debian sarge to ubuntu dapper failed for me | 12:11 |
| henkjan | did it once in an vm | 12:11 |
| Folke | Hi, any thoughts about how to continue with a bugged out test install of hardy on dl360g4p? | 13:55 |
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| Folke | Do I fill out a bug or what do I do next? | 13:56 |
| mok0 | Folke: did you start from a CD? | 13:58 |
| mok0 | Folke: what's bugged about it? | 13:59 |
| Folke | mok0: Yes, it hanged on me on 2 different occasions. Both on the last thing "restarting now". | 14:00 |
| mok0 | Folke: hmm, that has happened to me once... trying to remember what was wrong... | 14:01 |
| Folke | mok0: Then I did a cold reboot and the system started as it should. But when installting I hade some strange things. On the other tty's the text was borked up really good. Alot of @ and strange signs? | 14:02 |
| mok0 | Folke: Is there enough space on the hard drive for the install? | 14:02 |
| Folke | Yes, It is a HP dl360g4p with 32G hwraid 1. | 14:02 |
| mok0 | Folke: what's a dl360g4p? | 14:02 |
| Folke | Yes | 14:03 |
| mok0 | Ah | 14:03 |
| Folke | Is there something problematic with them and hardy? | 14:03 |
| mok0 | Folke: you can't have the boot partition on a raid AFAIK | 14:03 |
| Folke | mok0: But it is an ordinary hw raid. So that it presented to the system as /dev/ccsis01. So the raid is transparent for the system? | 14:04 |
| Folke | I will report it in the wiki, I did a test after the template in the serverteam pages. | 14:05 |
| mok0 | Folke: we have an HP G5, but I didn't install it... | 14:05 |
| Folke | 380 g5? | 14:05 |
| mok0 | Folke: In our machine, both / and /boot are on a /dev/cciss/ device | 14:06 |
| Folke | I planned to test on a dl380g4 and perhaps on a dl580g(?) next week. | 14:06 |
| mok0 | Folke: yes, that's the newest of HP's blades | 14:06 |
| Folke | Ah. | 14:06 |
| mok0 | Folke: Can't remember the actual model no | 14:06 |
| mok0 | Folke: Oh, it's something with 580 too | 14:07 |
| Folke | mok0: We have no blades here :( Too sad, I want to play with one :) | 14:07 |
| mok0 | Folke: or 380? | 14:07 |
| mok0 | Folke: What version are you trying to install? | 14:07 |
| Folke | mok0: Just betatesting hardy. Not for production. Tried to help the serverteam with some testing on different hw. | 14:08 |
| mok0 | Folke: ah, ok. I think you should fill out a bug report at Launchpad rather than the wiki | 14:09 |
| mok0 | Folke: The good news is that it _should_ work, but hardy is in a pretty bad shape these days... (IMHO) | 14:09 |
| mok0 | Folke: It's been rock-solid for months, but I have gotten problems this last week | 14:10 |
| Folke | mok0: When it entered beta? | 14:10 |
| mok0 | Folke: I am not sure... but there's been around 4 kernel rebuilds during the last week | 14:11 |
| Folke | mok0: Auch. that's really what you not want when it goes stable :) | 14:11 |
| mok0 | Folke: ... and I guess it takes a while for all the drivers to catch up | 14:11 |
| mok0 | Folke: No! | 14:12 |
| mok0 | ... fortunately there | 14:12 |
| mok0 | is still a couple of weeks :-) | 14:12 |
| Folke | mok0: Yes :) | 14:12 |
| Folke | mok0: I cant seem to enter bugs at launchpad? Or am I looking at the wrong place? "https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/" | 14:13 |
| mok0 | Folke: Yes, you need to start at the main page, then choose project "Ubuntu", then file a bug which is aimed at Ubuntu (and not a particular package) | 14:14 |
| Folke | mok0: Ah, thanks! | 14:14 |
| mok0 | Folke: when you've done with the bug, you can subscribe the ubuntu-server team, then the bug will appear on their task list | 14:15 |
| Folke | mok0: I am subscribing to the newslist. And asked for participation on the serverteam at launchpad. Is that the right way to go? | 14:17 |
| mok0 | Folke, no | 14:17 |
| Folke | ack. I will never do right :D | 14:18 |
| mok0 | Folke: what is the number of your new bug? | 14:18 |
| Folke | I filling out now. | 14:18 |
| mok0 | Folke: when you've hit save, come back here | 14:18 |
| Folke | mok0: k. | 14:19 |
| Folke | mok0: #215686 | 14:26 |
| mok0 | bug 215686 | 14:27 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 215686 in base-installer "Installation hang on dl360G4p and borked text on other consoles" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215686 | 14:27 |
| Folke | ah, k.. I understand. | 14:27 |
| mok0 | Folke: In the pink area under "Actions" find "Subscribe someone else" | 14:27 |
| Folke | mok0: aye | 14:27 |
| Folke | Shall I add ubuntu-server? | 14:28 |
| mok0 | Folke: That seems reasonable | 14:28 |
| Folke | mok0: :) | 14:28 |
| mok0 | Folke: if you click on the link "Ubuntu Server Team" you can now see that your bug has appeared on their list | 14:29 |
| Folke | mok0: Ah, then I understand how to assign bugs. | 14:30 |
| mok0 | Folke: ... and if you go to your own LP page, it is listed on your Bugs tab | 14:31 |
| mok0 | Folke: actually, it | 14:31 |
| mok0 | it's pretty nifty, but you gotta know who to subscribe :-) | 14:31 |
| mok0 | Folke: otherwise your bug gets lost among the 215685 others :-) | 14:32 |
| Folke | mok0: Now when vmware has certified ubuntu on their esx'es I thought that I could try to give something back to the community.. So I started to test hardy on some hw that we have here.. Then I guess that JeOS is the thing that seems most interesting to us :) | 14:33 |
| mok0 | Folke: exactly | 14:33 |
| mok0 | Folke: we are actually running several servers on JeOS guest machines using kvm | 14:34 |
| Folke | mok0: Ah, how does it do compared to "vanilla" server= | 14:34 |
| Folke | ? | 14:34 |
| mok0 | Folke: you mean in terms of efficiency? | 14:35 |
| _ruben | minimal install (just enough, hence the name) and special kernel (-virtual flavour) | 14:35 |
| MagicFab | Folke, if you try JeOS beta today, be aware there is a bug in GRUB, although it's being fixed there is a workaround: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-jeos/+bug/215618 | 14:35 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 215618 in ubuntu-jeos "Grub installation fails on JeOS Hardy on KVM Hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:35 |
| mok0 | Folke: It's a littlebit slower than running straight on the host. There is a bit of overhead in the internet bridge | 14:36 |
| mok0 | Folke: but it's super stable | 14:36 |
| Folke | mok0: That sounds great! Thats what is needed. Stability is a sysadmins best dream :) | 14:37 |
| _ruben | hmm .. reminds me, lets upgrade my hardy jeos test install :p | 14:37 |
| Folke | _ruben: Are there alot of kernel switches that are different from vanilla? | 14:38 |
| _ruben | Folke: dont think im the right person to ask that, am just another user, hardly playing with hardy yet | 14:39 |
| Folke | Except from stripped and special kernel I guess JeOS is binary compatible with vanilla repo tree? | 14:40 |
| _ruben | the repo's are identical .. just the base install differs between desktop/server/jeos | 14:41 |
| lilsyko | guys | 14:41 |
| lilsyko | i have an ubuntu 6.06LTS server | 14:41 |
| lilsyko | i wanna upgrade it ver 7.10 | 14:41 |
| lilsyko | how do i go about performing the upgrade? | 14:41 |
| _ruben | lilsyko: step by step .. 6.06 -> 6.10 -> 7.04 -> 7.10 | 14:42 |
| Folke | lilsyko: Is it a critical production server? | 14:42 |
| _ruben | once hardy is final you'll be able to go 6.06 -> 8.04 | 14:42 |
| lilsyko | mail relay server | 14:42 |
| lilsyko | quite critical | 14:42 |
| lilsyko | but now in my country is 9.42pm | 14:42 |
| _ruben | for 6.06 -> 7.10 reinstall is usually safer and faster | 14:42 |
| lilsyko | go its a good time for an upgrade | 14:42 |
| Folke | lilsyko: Ah, then perhaps wait to the next LTS? | 14:43 |
| lilsyko | hmm | 14:44 |
| lilsyko | maybe i'll do step by step | 14:44 |
| lilsyko | as _ruben suggested | 14:44 |
| _ruben | lilsyko: be ready for troubles tho, it *might* go cleanly, but dont assume so | 14:45 |
| lilsyko | hmmm | 14:45 |
| _ruben | 8.04 should be out by the end of the month .. so if you can wait, then do so ;) | 14:45 |
| lilsyko | i mean 6.06 to 8.04 | 14:45 |
| lilsyko | is such a big ver jump | 14:45 |
| lilsyko | wont it cause more issues? | 14:45 |
| _ruben | but it *is* supported | 14:45 |
| _ruben | 8.04 is also LTS | 14:46 |
| _ruben | LTS -> LTS will be supported .. for non-LTS versions you have to go step by step | 14:46 |
| lilsyko | ok | 14:46 |
| mok0 | _ruben: "end of the month"... does that mean that the advertised release day of April 24th has been postponed? | 14:48 |
| lilsyko | weird | 14:49 |
| lilsyko | i tried 'sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release' pn my 6.06LTS server but it says | 14:49 |
| lilsyko | No new release found | 14:49 |
| _ruben | mok0: 24th is close enough to the end of the month for me to call it "end of month" .. didnt know the exact date by head ;) | 14:50 |
| zul | lilsyko: did you follow the instructions in the release notes on the wiki for the beta? | 14:50 |
| mok0 | _ruben: ah ;-) | 14:50 |
| lilsyko | yeah | 14:51 |
| _ruben | 24th does sound awfully close though :/ | 14:51 |
| lilsyko | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades | 14:51 |
| _ruben | with the current ammount of "problems" that is | 14:51 |
| lilsyko | so any idea guys? | 14:55 |
| _ruben | lilsyko: we already gave several | 14:55 |
| lilsyko | i mean | 14:56 |
| _ruben | and i doubt you want to upgrade a production server to hardy beta now | 14:56 |
| Deeps | lilsyko: the page you linked suggests that the command you typed was for 7.10->8.04, rather than 6.06->8.04 | 14:56 |
| lilsyko | why isnt it showing the beta stuff? :P | 14:56 |
| Deeps | lilsyko: see the section Upgrade from 6.06 LTS to 8.04 LTS | 14:56 |
| lilsyko | thats for desktop | 14:57 |
| lilsyko | i was reading the part that says | 14:57 |
| lilsyko | Network upgrade for Ubuntu servers (recommended) | 14:57 |
| Deeps | ah i see | 14:57 |
| Folke | Do anyone know why there is LILO instead of GRUB in jeos? | 14:58 |
| _ruben | Folke: you sure? | 14:58 |
| * _ruben checks | 14:58 | |
| Folke | I looked at the bug 215618 | 14:58 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 215618 in ubuntu-jeos "Grub installation fails on JeOS Hardy on KVM Hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215618 | 14:58 |
| _ruben | Folke: my jeos install has grub, not lilo | 14:58 |
| _ruben | tho i aint using kvm | 14:58 |
| Folke | _ruben: Oh, nice.. I thought that it was general in jeos.. sry | 14:59 |
| _ruben | ah | 15:00 |
| lilsyko | damn | 15:06 |
| lilsyko | i tired the instructions as per the website | 15:06 |
| lilsyko | but still no go | 15:06 |
| lilsyko | _ruben | 15:13 |
| lilsyko | wanna ask you | 15:13 |
| lilsyko | it says to | 15:13 |
| lilsyko | # | 15:13 |
| lilsyko | enable the "dapper-proposed" repository | 15:13 |
| lilsyko | so i enable it like this | 15:13 |
| lilsyko | # | 15:13 |
| lilsyko | enable the "dapper-proposed" repository | 15:13 |
| lilsyko | deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-proposed main restricted | 15:14 |
| lilsyko | is it correct? | 15:14 |
| _ruben | guess so | 15:14 |
| _ruben | looks ok atleast | 15:14 |
| lilsyko | hmm | 15:15 |
| lilsyko | maybe need to include universe n multiverse also ? | 15:17 |
| _ruben | doubt that, i'd expect the upgrade tools to be in main | 15:18 |
| lilsyko | the weird this is u cant seem to install update-manager-core | 15:20 |
| _ruben | i think i have a virtual 6.06 install somewhere, forgot on which server tho :/ | 15:22 |
| lilsyko | this is my sources.list file | 15:22 |
| lilsyko | http://pastebin.com/d3343aa76 | 15:22 |
| lilsyko | is there an error somewhere? | 15:22 |
| _ruben | looks ok at first sight, sudo apt-get update doesnt show anything odd ? | 15:23 |
| lilsyko | nope | 15:23 |
| _ruben | then the sources.list should be ok | 15:24 |
| _ruben | hmm ..packages.ubuntu.com seems to be down | 15:26 |
| _ruben | when browsing the dapper-proposed files i dont see any update related stuff either.. wouldnt know where to go from there | 15:27 |
| peterdv | lilsyko: as Folke pointed out 8.04 is currently in beta test. It has not been released yet. It is not advisable to install the current version on a production server. As _ruben pointed out, you will have troubles. | 15:28 |
| Deeps | heh | 15:28 |
| _ruben | wtf .. im seeing unicode stuff or smth | 15:28 |
| Deeps | yeah me too | 15:28 |
| Deeps | lots of \ufeff | 15:28 |
| _ruben | hmm .. irssi on linux shows em fine, irssi on windows doesnt | 15:29 |
| Deeps | irssi on freebsd doesn't like it | 15:29 |
| _ruben | gotta love irssi's proxy | 15:29 |
| _ruben | guess the windows version isnt too keen on unicode ..lets check settings | 15:29 |
| _ruben | or perhaps its the irssi proxy that messes things up .. oh well | 15:30 |
| henkjan | _ruben: you are using irssi on windows? or just ssh with putty to an linux machine running irssi? | 15:32 |
| _ruben | henkjan: irssi on windows connecting to an irssi on ubuntu | 15:33 |
| _ruben | nasty setup, i know :) | 15:33 |
| henkjan | :) | 15:33 |
| _ruben | linux one's running in a screen with irssi proxy enabled | 15:33 |
| lilsyko | yeah i think i'm gonna abandon the project of goin for 8.04 | 15:35 |
| lilsyko | maybe i'll stick with 7.10 | 15:35 |
| peterdv | lilsyko: ... or just wait untill the release planned at the end of the month. | 15:36 |
| sommer | sweet | 15:53 |
| * delcoyote hi | 16:32 | |
| lilsyko | guys | 16:44 |
| lilsyko | will JeOS work on a physical system ? | 16:44 |
| lilsyko | instead of a VMWARE server? | 16:44 |
| zul | I dont think so but I have never tried it | 16:45 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: no it will not | 16:45 |
| lilsyko | hmmm k | 16:45 |
| lilsyko | just tot it may work | 16:46 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: it is meant to work only with vmware server, ESX (and KVM in 8.04) | 16:46 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: we have stripped the kernel clean of all unecessary drivers, so it should not | 16:46 |
| lilsyko | but JeOS is quite slow to install in a vmware session. | 16:47 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: you can do a minimal iso install instead | 16:47 |
| lilsyko | i'm installing 1 right now | 16:47 |
| lilsyko | but it stoped at the screen 'select and install software' | 16:47 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: try ubuntu-vm-builder on 8.04. | 16:47 |
| lilsyko | 90% | 16:47 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: the mini iso is stuck? | 16:48 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: which version? | 16:48 |
| lilsyko | JeOS | 16:48 |
| lilsyko | jeos-8.04-beta-jeos-i386.iso | 16:48 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: on real hw? surprised you got so far | 16:49 |
| lilsyko | nope | 16:49 |
| lilsyko | on VMware server 1.0.4 on gOS | 16:49 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: plus there is a (transitinal) problem today with the repositories for hardy, so installs will fail anyway | 16:49 |
| lilsyko | damn | 16:50 |
| lilsyko | looks like i have to download a new iso | 16:50 |
| lilsyko | but i didnt download the beta iso | 16:50 |
| lilsyko | sorry | 16:51 |
| lilsyko | i didnt download the daily iso, i downloaded the beta iso | 16:51 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: the issue is not with the iso, but with the repository | 16:51 |
| lilsyko | ok | 16:51 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: so keep your iso and wait til tomorrow | 16:51 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/215618 | 16:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 215618 in ubuntu-jeos "Grub installation fails on JeOS Hardy on KVM Hardy" [Undecided,Fix released] | 16:51 |
| lilsyko | hmmm so | 16:52 |
| lilsyko | JeOS downloads the packages from the repo as it installs? | 16:52 |
| lilsyko | intresting | 16:52 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: no, it updates them | 16:54 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: the ones that needs to, that is | 16:55 |
| lilsyko | ok | 16:55 |
| lilsyko | i mean can i do an offline intallation ? | 16:55 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: the objective is to provide the user with a secure system at first boot, but yes, an offline install should work today | 16:56 |
| lilsyko | ok | 16:56 |
| lilsyko | is the kernel compiled specifically for vmware? | 16:56 |
| lilsyko | is vmware-tools installed into jeos by default? | 16:57 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: yes (and kvm), it is named -virtual for that reason | 16:57 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: no, because there is one version of vm-tools per vmware type (and version) | 16:57 |
| nijaba | and we don't need it for kvm | 16:57 |
| lilsyko | ok | 16:57 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: there is an open-vm-tools version in the hardy repo, but it is not supported officially by vm-ware and does not provide all functionalities yet | 16:59 |
| lilsyko | k | 16:59 |
| lilsyko | i wanna transission frm gentoo to JeOS | 16:59 |
| lilsyko | thats why i'm intrested to get it working on vmware | 16:59 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: sure, sounds like a good plan | 17:00 |
| MatthewMetzger | Hello | 17:01 |
| MatthewMetzger | I'm using Hardy server and I'm having a problem with RAM being cached and not released. I ran the same services on a slower machine with Dapper LTS and did not experience this problem. I can give more specifics about services running and hardware, if anyone is interested. | 17:02 |
| nijaba | MatthewMetzger: do you have steps to reproduce your issue, or does it involve some sensitive code/data? | 17:05 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: hi, i'd like to hear more about your issue | 17:06 |
| MatthewMetzger | nijaba: no sensitive code or data. I'm running all services off of packages installed from ubuntu's repositories. | 17:06 |
| MatthewMetzger | The only change in services is that I'm now running webdav extension of apache. | 17:06 |
| MatthewMetzger | I'm running squid and squidGuard, which are known to have memory issues | 17:06 |
| * nijaba letting kirkland dive into this | 17:07 | |
| MatthewMetzger | but I didn't have memory issues on Dapper LTS | 17:07 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: i386? amd64? same on both? | 17:07 |
| mathiaz | MatthewMetzger: how do you know that RAM is cached and not released ? | 17:08 |
| MatthewMetzger | i386 (Mac mini Intel hardware) | 17:08 |
| MatthewMetzger | mathiaz: I'm watching it with "free -m" | 17:08 |
| MatthewMetzger | I also run "ps aux" and see that very little is actually actively being used by applications. | 17:09 |
| lilsyko | yay~ i managed to upgrade my 6.06LTS to 8.04beta | 17:09 |
| lilsyko | with no issues so far | 17:09 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: how much total memory? | 17:09 |
| MatthewMetzger | 1 GB | 17:09 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: can you paste the output of "free" ? | 17:10 |
| MatthewMetzger | sure | 17:10 |
| MatthewMetzger | total used free shared buffers cached | 17:11 |
| MatthewMetzger | Mem: 979 951 28 0 81 789 | 17:11 |
| MatthewMetzger | -/+ buffers/cache: 80 899 | 17:11 |
| MatthewMetzger | Swap: 2870 25 2845 | 17:11 |
| Deeps | lilsyko: other than all the issues you had trying to do the upgrade? what was the problem in the end? | 17:11 |
| MatthewMetzger | I have run "sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" to clear the caches (I know it is not recommended) | 17:11 |
| lilsyko | only had a few issues before the upgrade | 17:12 |
| lilsyko | it could locate the upgrade | 17:12 |
| lilsyko | so what i did was removed update-manager-core | 17:12 |
| lilsyko | del /var/lib/update-manager | 17:13 |
| lilsyko | enable update-proposed in sources.list | 17:13 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: you wouldn't happen to have a similar dump of "free" from dapper, huh? | 17:13 |
| MatthewMetzger | After restarting the machine or clearing the RAM cache, free shows that the cache slowly builds up after a period of 8 hours or so. | 17:13 |
| lilsyko | enable also multiverse & universe for dapper-proposed | 17:14 |
| MatthewMetzger | kirkland: not with the same services. no. | 17:14 |
| Deeps | heh, quite a few steps then | 17:14 |
| lilsyko | then reinstall update-manager-core | 17:14 |
| lilsyko | then off you go | 17:14 |
| Deeps | hehe | 17:14 |
| Deeps | i wont be upgrading my 6.06lts then | 17:14 |
| Deeps | although it should be out of commission by that time | 17:14 |
| Deeps | by the time 6.06 is no longer supported, that is | 17:15 |
| MatthewMetzger | Deeps: I had to use Hardy instead of Dapper LTS because I was moving to Mac mini hardware | 17:15 |
| Deeps | MatthewMetzger: um, ok? | 17:15 |
| MatthewMetzger | sorry, crossed conversations, maybe :) | 17:15 |
| Deeps | i think so! | 17:16 |
| Deeps | :) | 17:16 |
| MatthewMetzger | I think my problem may be related to squid, but I'm not sure how to isolate it to make sure. | 17:17 |
| MatthewMetzger | And, like I said, it ran fine with the same configuration on Dapper | 17:17 |
| MatthewMetzger | I suppose I could set up another machine with Hardy, set up squid with the same configuration and see if it has the same memory issues. That would be a lot of work, though. | 17:18 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: can you just turn off squid? | 17:18 |
| lilsyko | hmmm so far my hardy is good | 17:18 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: /etc/init.d/squid stop | 17:18 |
| lilsyko | will test it out a while and let u guys know k | 17:18 |
| lilsyko | btw this is a heavyly used production email relay server | 17:18 |
| MatthewMetzger | kirkland: I can turn it off for testing, of course, but it is a necessary service. | 17:18 |
| lilsyko | relaying about 1000+ mails a day | 17:19 |
| lilsyko | :P | 17:19 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: postfix, no dovecot? | 17:19 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: sure, i just meant to isolate it | 17:19 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: perhaps turn it off for one boot, reboot | 17:19 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: give it a fixed amount of time | 17:19 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: 10 minutes? 30 minutes? 60 Minutes? | 17:19 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: do the same with a fresh boot with/without squid | 17:20 |
| MatthewMetzger | I can't turn it off right now as people are actively using the proxy as we speak, but I can test it over the weekend perhaps. I can maybe do it this evening. | 17:20 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: measure "free" at regular intervalas | 17:20 |
| kirkland | intervals | 17:20 |
| MatthewMetzger | Thanks kirkland | 17:20 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: one more question.... | 17:20 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: is the high cache usage causing noticeable performance problems, or are you just a memory tuning "nut"? :-) | 17:21 |
| lilsyko | postfix only | 17:21 |
| nijaba | lilsyko: thanks | 17:21 |
| MatthewMetzger | kirkland: :) It's causing problems. Squid stopped on its own because it ran out of memory. I had to restart it. Then later, the whole machine became unresponsive and had to be rebooted. | 17:21 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: arg, that is bad | 17:22 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: how much disk cache have you given Squid? | 17:22 |
| MatthewMetzger | Very different performance than from Dapper. | 17:22 |
| MatthewMetzger | very little, as I'm mainly using squidGuard as a proxy filter and don't really care about the cache. I think it is actually only 1 MB. | 17:23 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: i'm going to install Hardy and Dapper + squid in a pair of VM's right now | 17:23 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: will you be around a bit, such that I can duplicate your configuration reasonably? | 17:24 |
| MatthewMetzger | kirkland: I have to do lunch and will be gone for an hour or so after. I can hover on the channel a bit later today. | 17:24 |
| MatthewMetzger | by the way: cache_mem 1 MB | 17:24 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: in any case, could you open a bug in Launchpad against squid? | 17:25 |
| MatthewMetzger | from the squid.conf | 17:25 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: subscribe me to it (kirkland@canonical.com) | 17:25 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: and we can communicate that way if you're not in IRC | 17:25 |
| MatthewMetzger | kirkland: I haven't opened a bug before, but it'd be a great learning experience for me. I'll try to do it later this afternoon :) | 17:25 |
| kirkland | MatthewMetzger: thats fine, ping me here if you need help opening the bug | 17:26 |
| MatthewMetzger | At this point, I'm just guessing it's squid. | 17:26 |
| nijaba | MatthewMetzger: go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/squid/ and click on 'report a bug' | 17:27 |
| MatthewMetzger | thanks nijaba. I'll be back later. | 17:27 |
| chimp | Hey ive just set up ubuntu server on a new system, but strangely i cant get it to connect to my local network | 17:31 |
| chimp | it has 2, gigabit lan connectors, but neither seem to connect | 17:32 |
| chimp | ive tried turning off one of the lan connectors in the bios, but that didnt help | 17:33 |
| chimp | is there an automated way i can try connecting it, ive set up the /etc/network/interfaces file identical (cept for its ip) to another ubuntu server i have running, and it connects the other server fine | 17:35 |
| dthacker-work | chimp: does 'sudo ifconfig' show a network address set? | 17:45 |
| dthacker-work | chimp: and I have to ask this :) If you have a dual nic, are you plugged in to the right port? | 17:45 |
| * dthacker-work wouldn't ask if he hadn't made the mistake himself...... | 17:46 | |
| chimp_ | argh | 17:52 |
| chimp_ | dthacker-work: for sudo ifconfig, using both ports it shows inet addr as the one i set statically | 17:53 |
| chimp_ | if i set dhcp, then it tries a few times, then says no offers received | 17:53 |
| chimp_ | this is trying on both ports | 17:53 |
| chimp_ | Its a gigabit ethernet port, but the router its connect to is only 100mbit, could this cause the problem? | 17:54 |
| chimp_ | And is there any other config files for networking other than /etc/network/interfaces that i should worry about | 17:54 |
| dthacker-work | chimp_: does ifconfig show packets being received and sent? If so, can you ping the device you are connected to? | 17:54 |
| chimp_ | pinging the router does nthing, and it doesnt receive packets me things, it has many dropped packets | 17:55 |
| dthacker-work | chimp_: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces? | 17:55 |
| chimp_ | hard to do considering its not connected to the net :P | 17:56 |
| chimp_ | Any specifc part that would be interesting? | 17:56 |
| dthacker-work | ummmm yeah | 17:56 |
| dthacker-work | what's your server ip address and router ip address? | 17:57 |
| chimp_ | inet addr: 192.168.1.42 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 | 17:58 |
| dthacker-work | that's the server, right? | 17:59 |
| chimp_ | yep | 17:59 |
| chimp_ | the router is on 192.168.254 | 18:00 |
| chimp_ | Its really odd as i said, another ubuntu server is connect absolutely fine | 18:00 |
| dthacker-work | what's your default route? | 18:00 |
| dthacker-work | chimp_: do you have a gateway set? | 18:02 |
| chimp_ | 192.168.1.254 | 18:02 |
| dthacker-work | is it showing up in netstat -rn? | 18:02 |
| chimp_ | never done that before | 18:03 |
| chimp_ | it gives 2 sets | 18:03 |
| dthacker-work | look for the one that starts with 0.0.0.0 | 18:03 |
| dthacker-work | 0.0.0.0 10.0.35.250 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 | 18:04 |
| dthacker-work | that's mine | 18:04 |
| chimp_ | 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.254 0.0.0.0 ug 0 0 0 eth0 | 18:04 |
| chimp_ | thats the second one | 18:04 |
| dthacker-work | looks good | 18:04 |
| chimp_ | the first one has destination of 192.168.1.0 | 18:04 |
| dthacker-work | we could look at the link | 18:05 |
| dthacker-work | 'sudo ethtool eth0' or whatever number you are working with | 18:05 |
| chimp_ | ahh | 18:06 |
| chimp_ | it says its speed is 1000Mb/s | 18:07 |
| chimp_ | it shouldnt be | 18:07 |
| chimp_ | the router cant handle gigabit | 18:07 |
| dthacker-work | that might be it, but most newer cards auto-negotiate. | 18:08 |
| chimp_ | erm wtf | 18:08 |
| chimp_ | its working now | 18:08 |
| dthacker-work | \o/ | 18:08 |
| chimp_ | found out why | 18:08 |
| dthacker-work | .....and? | 18:09 |
| chimp_ | my housemate just plugged it all into a gigabit swithc | 18:09 |
| chimp_ | so it really didnt like being plugged into 100mbit | 18:09 |
| dthacker-work | hehe. cool, glad you found the trouble. | 18:10 |
| chimp_ | lucky we had some gigabit stuff lieing around | 18:11 |
| chimp_ | How does ubuntu server compare to other linux servers, btw? | 18:14 |
| leonel | the differences are support and software updates | 18:16 |
| leonel | is the same kernel and same server programs | 18:16 |
| infinity | (more or less) | 18:20 |
| infinity | We do put some effort into integration of said applications. | 18:20 |
| leonel | infinity: and very good integration | 18:24 |
| leonel | infinity: and that's one of the ubuntu features that made a big difference JUST WORKS ! | 18:24 |
| leonel | chimp_: and another is the great community supporting ubuntu | 18:25 |
| chimp_ | This is very true | 18:26 |
| chimp_ | This is annoying, i rebooted the server and it will no longer connect again | 18:26 |
| chimp_ | i didnt even change anything | 18:26 |
| chimp_ | :S | 18:26 |
| chimp_ | Is there a way for me to configure it to only use 100mbit | 18:26 |
| Deeps | as in, force your link speed to be 100mbit? | 18:27 |
| Deeps | rather than autoneg to something else like 10mbit half duplex? | 18:27 |
| chimp_ | yes | 18:28 |
| Deeps | could do via the interfaces file | 18:28 |
| pr0le | mii-tool, but it's probably not persistent | 18:29 |
| Deeps | yeah, i was gonna suggest adding a post-up line to your interface configuration | 18:30 |
| chimp_ | before when i did sudo ethtool eth0 it gave me a list of possible connection speeds ie. 10/100/1000 | 18:31 |
| Deeps | post-up ethtool -s <int> autoneg off speed 100 duplex full | 18:31 |
| chimp_ | now it doesnt show them | 18:31 |
| Deeps | sudo ethtool <interface> | 18:31 |
| Deeps | eg, sudo ethtool eth0 | 18:32 |
| chimp_ | yer, what im saying is that before i rebooted it listed possible speeds, doesnt anymore | 18:32 |
| Deeps | is the cable plugged in? | 18:32 |
| Deeps | what output does it give? | 18:32 |
| chimp_ | supported ports: fibre, link modes: 1000baseT/Full, auto-nego: yes Advertised link modes: not reported, advertised auto-negotiation: yes speed: 1000Mb/s, Duplex full, port fibre | 18:35 |
| chimp_ | and a few others after that | 18:35 |
| chimp_ | Its very odd that it worked then stopped working | 18:35 |
| Deeps | advertised link modes: not reported, suggests an issue on the other side | 18:36 |
| chimp_ | It gave speeds before i rebooted tho | 18:36 |
| chimp_ | turning off router/switch etc. | 18:37 |
| chimp_ | brb | 18:37 |
| chimp | well that didnt work | 18:44 |
| chimp | this is driving me up the wall | 18:50 |
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| chimp | Its basically dropping all packets it receives | 19:11 |
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| chimp | what command would show me all ethernet connections possible? | 19:47 |
| chimp | lsbvwp11 | 19:50 |
| chimp | oops | 19:50 |
| zul | ifconfig -a | 19:51 |
| MatthewMetzger | kirkland: the problem wasn't squid. At least, I don't think so. Did you find any differences between Dapper and Hardy concerning squid? | 19:51 |
| MatthewMetzger | I think I have a memory leak in a perl website cgi script. | 19:52 |
| frame45 | does anyone know how I can get an ftp domain name to work? ex: ftp.mysite.com | 20:00 |
| m11 | hello | 20:02 |
| m11 | i have problem with my DHCP server not starting. i added interface to /etc/default and added all needed information to /etc/dhcp3/dhcp3-server , where can i check more why is failing to start ? | 20:03 |
| lilsyko | guys | 20:04 |
| leonel | frame45: take a look at : https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/dns.html | 20:05 |
| lilsyko | how do i remove unused packages on a debian server? | 20:05 |
| leonel | m11: check in /var/log/syslog | 20:05 |
| lilsyko | i have removed a few core packages | 20:05 |
| m11 | tnx leonel | 20:05 |
| lilsyko | now i wanna remove the additional packages that were installed with it and are no longer used | 20:05 |
| lilsyko | hwo do i do that? | 20:06 |
| frame45 | i think it's: sudo apt-get remove (name of package) | 20:07 |
| lilsyko | yeah i have done that | 20:08 |
| lilsyko | i'm running this command now | 20:08 |
| lilsyko | dpkg -P $(dpkg --list | grep ^rc | awk '{ print $2; }') | 20:08 |
| frame45 | thanks leonel | 20:08 |
| lilsyko | is it ok ? | 20:08 |
| m11 | it says:no subnet declaration for eth0 (0.0.0.0) , but that is first setting in my config:subnet 192.168.1.0 , what i am doing wrong ? | 20:10 |
| m11 | can i add interface to dhcpd.conf somehow ? | 20:11 |
| mathiaz | sommer: Have you seen the mentoring request on ubuntu-doc ? | 20:25 |
| sommer | mathiaz: yep | 20:27 |
| sommer | are you referring to the most recent one? | 20:27 |
| mathiaz | sommer: yes - grab him ! | 20:31 |
| sommer | mathiaz: does he live in north carolina too? | 20:31 |
| sommer | heh, yep I was plannig on responding | 20:31 |
| sommer | got caught up with some sql stuff this afternoon | 20:32 |
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| sommer | mathiaz: he's grabbed... heh | 20:41 |
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| mathiaz | sommer: kwel - I was wondering what he could work on | 20:41 |
| mathiaz | sommer: since the serverguide is almost done for hardy | 20:42 |
| sommer | mathiaz: ya, I asked that myself... I pointed him toward the Server Idea Pool page with the new content ideas | 20:42 |
| sommer | mathiaz: if he replies back I'll suggest the help wiki as well :) | 20:43 |
| * faulkes- grumbles | 20:54 | |
| sommer | faulkes-: it'll be okay | 20:55 |
| MatthewMetzger | mathiaz: does the serverguide for hardy include info on running virtual machines so that they're on the same local network as other real machines (not a NAT creating a virtual network)? | 20:56 |
| MatthewMetzger | I'm interested in looking over the serverguide if there's a url for it | 20:56 |
| sommer | MatthewMetzger: sure does: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html | 20:57 |
| MatthewMetzger | sommer: Thanks! | 20:58 |
| sommer | np | 20:58 |
| faulkes- | sommer: people who don't read email and wait until the last second to do things, well, they make me want to drink more than I do anyways | 21:10 |
| sommer | heh, I know the feeling | 21:11 |
| faulkes- | there is a terrible shortage of alcohol in the office currently, it is most distressing | 21:35 |
| sommer | you should get a job at a brewery or distillery :) | 21:38 |
| balzac | hello | 21:57 |
| balzac | anyone not idling ? | 21:57 |
| saltedlight | hi everyone. i need some advices to setup an dns auto-updater on a server with a dynamic ip... anyone have any ideas? | 21:58 |
| balzac | helo | 21:59 |
| saltedlight | :)) | 21:59 |
| saltedlight | hi again :D | 21:59 |
| balzac | I'd like to help but I don't know anything about it | 21:59 |
| balzac | saltedlight: are you using eBox? | 22:00 |
| saltedlight | no | 22:00 |
| balzac | it's going to become a part of ubuntu-server, I think | 22:01 |
| saltedlight | what i realy need is a script or something to check my ip and if is changed to auto-update the ip on the dns server... | 22:01 |
| balzac | http://digg.com/linux_unix/eBox_slated_to_be_the_official_Ubuntu_server_management_tool | 22:01 |
| saltedlight | never used eBox 'till now... | 22:01 |
| balzac | it gives one centralized administrative interface for lots of possible networking configurations | 22:02 |
| balzac | not sure if it would help you though | 22:02 |
| balzac | I'm pretty ignorant of networking. It's very complex. | 22:02 |
| saltedlight | the only thing that i need is to have a dns instead of a ip... and my isp has the ridiculous idea to change the ip's when tey think will be 'good' to have some changes... | 22:04 |
| saltedlight | i dont realy know how to search this on manuals or any other kind of docs related to networking... | 22:05 |
| balzac | All the documentation I find on eBox assumes the reader knows networking already | 22:06 |
| balzac | NAT, DHCP, all kinds of other crap I don't know much about | 22:07 |
| balzac | it's a bloody mess of different networking protocols, none of them simple and they can interfere with each other | 22:07 |
| saltedlight | ya right... some one said long time ago about ubuntu: "linux for human kinds? well i need linux for dummies!" | 22:08 |
| saltedlight | ;)) | 22:08 |
| balzac | I should be a software designer because I could build applications which can be used without a PhD | 22:09 |
| balzac | most software only gives you hints | 22:09 |
| balzac | most writers of software documentation write from a subjective point of view | 22:10 |
| saltedlight | i know... there are tons of scripts that do auto-update... but none is doing the job by himself... it has to be started manualy... | 22:10 |
| balzac | can you make a cron job to call one of those scripts? | 22:11 |
| balzac | or a cron job to call a shell script to call your update script? | 22:12 |
| saltedlight | and will that crontab or what you may call it will do the job if the ip will be changed by the @#$%^& ISP? | 22:12 |
| balzac | maybe have a variable which gets the current ip? easier said than done... | 22:13 |
| saltedlight | they changed my ip twice in a half hour... and this still being connected... dont know how... | 22:13 |
| balzac | ok, your computer is a client of their DHCP server, in order to follow their IP changes, right? | 22:14 |
| saltedlight | yes | 22:14 |
| saltedlight | i have to connect with pppoe | 22:14 |
| saltedlight | and then tey give me wan ip | 22:15 |
| balzac | is there any way for your update script to query their DHCP server or your DHCP client to get the latest IP? | 22:15 |
| m1r | i have set eth0 as default interface in /etc/default/dhcp3-server for DHCP server, but it constanly going out on wlan0, anyone have idea what is going on ? | 22:16 |
| balzac | it's easy to conceptualize, much more difficult to do. | 22:16 |
| CannibalM | oh thank god, there is a server room! | 22:17 |
| balzac | yeah, but it's very small | 22:18 |
| CannibalM | Ok, Proliant 1600, network cards are not functioning. I am newer with linux so have yet to get a non functioning network card to work. So, any ideas? | 22:18 |
| balzac | I think Canonical needs to sell more LTS licenses | 22:18 |
| CannibalM | I already have 5 other boxes running server edition hosting stuff, but yet can't figure this small thing out. | 22:18 |
| kirkland | CannibalM: what version? | 22:19 |
| CannibalM | It's server 7.10 | 22:19 |
| kirkland | CannibalM: what kind of network card? | 22:19 |
| CannibalM | shows up during the configurations, and shows the card type, when I go to run from there, ifconfig shows nothing. | 22:19 |
| CannibalM | one sec, gonna pull the exact model. | 22:19 |
| saltedlight | so will this be possible? boot > connect pppoe > update dns on no-ip.org or something > 'fill' if the ip changes > if ip change then re-update dns ?? | 22:19 |
| balzac | that question is over my head | 22:20 |
| balzac | I was just hoping I could get some help with eBox, but their channel is only a handful of people | 22:21 |
| balzac | I know jack-squat about networking | 22:21 |
| saltedlight | anyone else please? | 22:21 |
| CannibalM | So exact model not sure, it just reads "Compaq Netelligent Integrated 10/100 T" | 22:22 |
| m1r | saltedlight: no-ip should work automaticly | 22:22 |
| CannibalM | thats all ubuntu shows, and thats all I know. Integrated. | 22:22 |
| CannibalM | As well, I have an expansion card with duel ports, if those would be easier I can pop the card and check the model as well. | 22:22 |
| saltedlight | and if i get disconnected will the no-up client re-update the ip or i'l have to rerun the command manually? | 22:23 |
| m1r | saltedlight: update on every conection | 22:24 |
| CannibalM | Any thoughts anyone? | 22:25 |
| saltedlight | and how exactly i have to do that? using a cron job or what? | 22:26 |
| m1r | saltedlight: http://no-ip.org | 22:26 |
| kirkland | CannibalM: you can check the hardware much easier than popping the box | 22:27 |
| kirkland | CannibalM: use "lshw" and "lspci -v" | 22:27 |
| balzac | CannibalM: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=698747 <-- this thread might help | 22:27 |
| balzac | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/99821 | 22:29 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 99821 in linux "Compaq Netelligent 10/100 TX PCI TLAN driver missing" [Medium,Fix released] | 22:29 |
| balzac | "Compaq Netelligent 10/100 TX PCI TLAN driver missing" | 22:29 |
| CannibalM | I'm reinstalling ubuntu now. | 22:30 |
| CannibalM | I was thiiiiiiiiiiis close to using MS server 03 | 22:30 |
| CannibalM | but sc#@$@ that. | 22:30 |
| CannibalM | lol | 22:30 |
| balzac | drivers is the only thing winblows has going for it | 22:30 |
| CannibalM | exactly. | 22:30 |
| balzac | I think M$ subsidizes hardware companies to keep drivers out of our hands. | 22:30 |
| CannibalM | so the question is, where is that info on the missing driver in linux? | 22:31 |
| CannibalM | the launchpad section: | 22:31 |
| balzac | that is the question | 22:31 |
| balzac | maybe an older kernel would help | 22:32 |
| balzac | older ubuntu v6.1 perhaps | 22:32 |
| balzac | but that's no fun | 22:32 |
| balzac | the linux kernel shouldn't need to have driver compatibility built in | 22:32 |
| balzac | it should all be modular | 22:32 |
| CannibalM | perfect answer, | 22:34 |
| CannibalM | hopefully you guys can explain this to me then... | 22:34 |
| CannibalM | how can I check the kernal on my server? Like the actual kernal version? | 22:35 |
| CannibalM | *kernel | 22:35 |
| m1r | uname -a | 22:35 |
| CannibalM | hmm ok cool thanks, | 22:36 |
| CannibalM | so in theory It should install the driver automatically then | 22:36 |
| m1r | for ? | 22:37 |
| CannibalM | But once the install is finished and I log in, ifconfig shows nothing but a loopback | 22:37 |
| CannibalM | as well, during install I can't get an IP. | 22:37 |
| m1r | for ethernt card? | 22:37 |
| CannibalM | exactly. | 22:38 |
| CannibalM | pulls nothing it seems. | 22:38 |
| CannibalM | Meanwhile, I have like onboard, a dual port ethernet card, and a third single card. | 22:38 |
| CannibalM | nothing can get an IP during install. So I'm just trying to get any of them to function and install | 22:38 |
| CannibalM | I figure, one port functioning is all I need for now to start developing on it and ssh'ing in. | 22:39 |
| m1r | <sugests realtek | 22:39 |
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| Zylogue | hello, all...I used Ubuntu server 5.x a while back. I recall in it was a web fronted mp3 player. This app would be great for a multimedia server I'm looking at building. Does anyone recall the name of this app, or similar app? I would like the music to play locally to that machine, out the soundcard audio jack and into the stereo. Thanks | 23:36 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/215998 | 23:51 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 215998 in squid "possible memory leak in Hardy's squid" [Undecided,New] | 23:51 |
| mathiaz | kirkland: were you able to reproduce it ? | 23:51 |
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