[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #212709 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "atieventsd crashed with SIGSEGV in _XSend()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212709
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #215449 in xorg (main) "Keyboard becomes unresponsive in X" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215449
[07:46] <tjaalton> damn atieventsd.. it should probably be disabled
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #207108 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "ATI driver enabled 8.04 don't start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207108
[08:40] <tjaalton> mvo: I've noticed a possible problem with x11-common and dapper->hardy upgrades.. x11-common Replaces xrgb (<= 1.0.0-0ubuntu2) but the package in dapper has an epoch, so the rule doesn't work?
[08:41] <tjaalton> this is also bug 212672
[08:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 212672 in xorg "couldn't upgrade to hardy from dapper" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212672
[08:41] <mvo> tjaalton: good catch, the epoch is needed
[08:42] <tjaalton> mvo: ok, I'll add it
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #215456 in update-manager (main) "Upgrade  failed (dup-of: 205079)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215456
[08:51] <mvo> bug 215456 makes me slightly nervous, it seems to be nvidia releated
[08:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 215456 in update-manager "Upgrade  failed (dup-of: 205079)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215456
[08:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205079 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "kubuntu Hardy Heron could not install libc6" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205079
[08:51] <mvo> do you know if we had tls in gutsy too?
[08:55] <tjaalton> nvidia-glx installed the non-tls version in /usr/lib until a few weeks ago
[08:56] <mvo> hm, ok
[08:56] <mvo> I wonder how these people got the bug then
[10:27] <seb128> bug #196464
[10:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 196464 in gdm "After gdm upgrade no X cliens can be run" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196464
[10:27] <seb128> interesting comment
[10:28] <seb128> what is atieventsd and why does it .Xauthority?
[10:28] <tjaalton> sigh
[10:28] <seb128> does it change
[10:28] <tjaalton> it's some crappy daemon for multihead
[10:30] <tjaalton> I'm all for disabling it by default
[10:30] <tjaalton> it only generates grief from what I can tell
[10:31] <seb128> ok, I'll wait to see if other people have the same issue
[10:31] <seb128> and reassign
[10:35] <tjaalton> ok
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #215585 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "[Hardy] Complete system freeze when scrolling using fglrx" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215585
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #196464 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "After gdm upgrade no X cliens can be run" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196464
[13:11] <ubotu> New bug: #206703 in kdebase (main) "[hardy] kde fail to start if keyboard native langage maps are activated (dup-of: 205979)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206703
[13:17] <seb128> james_w: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/215396
[13:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 215396 in gnome-control-center "gnome-display-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in _start() [when running xgl]" [Medium,New] 
[13:18] <james_w> seb128: I'm just testing a "fix" for that.
[13:18] <james_w> it's the same issue we solved for g-s-d and Xgl I think
[13:18] <seb128> james_w: ok, good ;-)
[13:18] <james_w> however the capplet is missing a NULL check so it crashes.
[13:19] <seb128> scr=0x0
[13:19] <seb128> indeed
[13:28] <Q-FUNK> hm.  dak@debian seems to be in limbo.  got the upload ack mail more than 3 hours ago, but still no install mail.
[13:35] <jcristau> Q-FUNK: you built with the new dpkg
[13:35] <jcristau> Q-FUNK: and dak didn't like that until a few minutes ago
[13:41] <Q-FUNK> oh?
[13:41] <jcristau> see the thread on -devel
[13:41] <Q-FUNK> ok
[13:42] <Q-FUNK> jcristau: title of the thread?
[13:43] <jcristau> something with dak in it
[13:43] <Q-FUNK> Are Sha* checksums accepted by dak ?
[13:44] <jcristau> yes
[13:45] <Q-FUNK> ok
[13:45] <Q-FUNK> except that I never received the rejection mail.  I received the confirmation for the upload, then nothing.
[13:45] <jcristau> the upload was probably put on hold
[13:46] <jcristau> and reinjected after the dak fix
[13:47] <Q-FUNK> hopefully :)
[13:47] <Q-FUNK> thanks for the pointer, anyhow
[13:53] <ubotu> New bug: #215584 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "compiz freeze with ATI Radeon X600" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215584
[15:07] <ubotu> New bug: #215702 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Hardy:  fglrx + compiz (dexktop effects) not working right" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215702
[15:50] <Q-FUNK> hm.  still nothing from the damn buildd.
[15:57] <ubotu> New bug: #215728 in xorg (main) "High CPU Consumption" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215728
[16:12] <komputes> Q-FUNK: any progress of the geode driver?
[16:12] <Q-FUNK> komputes: yes, waiting for debian to get its package builders back into shape
[16:13] <komputes> Q-FUNK: great, if you need me to test it I have the hardware, so just ping me when that time comes
[16:15] <jcristau> geode isn't autobuilt, so 'package builders' have nothing to do with that...
[16:16] <Q-FUNK> hm?
[16:16] <Q-FUNK> the buildd have a deprecated dpkg-dev and silently reject packages that use a recent one.
[16:17] <Q-FUNK> and whoever was supposed to re-queue packages evidently missed one
[16:17] <jcristau> no
[16:18] <Q-FUNK> how else do you explain this then?
[16:20] <jcristau> i don't know why you're talking about buildds
[16:27] <Q-FUNK> then don't say no.
[16:44] <ubotu> New bug: #24582 in xkeyboard-config ""Back" and "Forward" buttons should work out of the box in Firefox" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24582
[16:48] <james_w> seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6770/#
[16:49] <james_w> do you think the message is ok?
[16:51] <seb128> james_w: there is already a message displayed when the capplet can't be used no?
[16:51] <james_w> yes, there is
[16:52] <james_w> I'm not sure exactly what the problem here is though. It has already checked that xrandr 1.2 is available
[16:52] <james_w> but it still doesn't work, it's probably a driver bug I think
[16:52] <seb128> I think that's a xgl issue
[16:52] <james_w> or Xgl in this case
[16:52] <seb128> the driver is likely xrandr capable
[16:52] <seb128> but xgl might not be
[16:52] <seb128> or something
[16:53] <seb128> james_w: about the message, why do you need a new one if we already have one? I'm concerned about translations
[16:54] <james_w> ah yes
[16:54] <james_w> it's just the way the code is layed out
[16:54] <james_w> also I wasn't sure about re-using it if it's not the same problem.
[16:55] <seb128> what is the other problem?
[16:55] <seb128> and I think your message is too technical
[16:55] <seb128> users don't know what xrandr is
[16:56] <seb128> we should just display a "your graphical setup doesn't support dynamic configuration change" or similar
[16:56] <james_w>  "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available."
[16:56] <james_w> "The version of the XRandR extension is incompatible with this program. Runtime changes to the display size are not available."
[16:57] <james_w> that's the two existing messages.
[16:57] <seb128> bah
[16:57] <seb128> I would use the first one
[16:58] <james_w> ok, I'll change it
[16:59] <seb128> do you agree about the not breaking translations?
[16:59] <james_w> yeah, that's important.
[16:59] <seb128> I don't want to dictate decisions ;-)
[16:59] <seb128> ok, cool
[19:57] <ubotu> New bug: #215778 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "2.6.24-16.30 kernel update - nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215778
[21:26] <ubotu> New bug: #215399 in firefox-3.0 (main) "firefox beta 3 does not always display images (dup-of: 182038)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215399
[23:01] <ubotu> New bug: #215976 in ubuntu "nvidia driver not found with 2.6.24-16 kernel(64 bit) (dup-of: 215778)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215976