[00:00] <StPatrick> zcat[1],  That's what im tryin to say the problem is completely screwey.
[00:00] <Boohbah> bwayne: to laugh at their computers? does that cheer you up?
[00:00] <n6rej> any postfix experts on?
[00:00] <chalcedony> Boohbah: i like my giant desktop in Gnome ty
[00:00] <Boohbah> ok
[00:00] <prakriti> is there any way to set a prefered wireless network?
[00:00] <Devourer> Is there an application that can read .chm files?
[00:00] <bwayne> Boohbah:  there's just something about being surrounded by all that stuff.
[00:00] <zcat[1]> StPatrick: yeah, wifi is a bit dodgy at times. using network manager (the default networking thing in gnome) ?
[00:01] <prakriti> I'd like to stay in roaming mode, but I would like my lappy to connect to my access point if availabe.
[00:01] <StPatrick> ive tried everything
[00:01] <StPatrick> i had it wokring in Mandriva....
[00:01] <StPatrick> just fine
[00:01] <n6rej> can anyone help me get my mail working properly with postfix?
[00:01] <StPatrick> i guess i'll switch back to that.
[00:01] <Zelta> StPatrick: Use whatever works :)
[00:01] <invalidsyntax> can you restore ubuntu?
[00:01] <StPatrick> Zelta,  It took me WEEKS to get it to work in Mandriva
[00:02] <sam827> « /msg ubotu etiquette »
[00:02] <n6rej> prakriti: in windblows you can use the wifi manager to select a preferred ap, I would expect the same behavior with *nix
[00:02] <dmsuperman> invalidsyntax: insert disk, run install :P
[00:02] <invalidsyntax> .lol
[00:02] <StPatrick> Zelta,  Took me 15 minutes to get it to recognize here
[00:02] <Jack_Sparrow> StPatrick, Perhaps you should look at buying wifi hardware that has/supplies driver support in linux
[00:03] <Zelta> yeah, you can get something that works perfectly for ~$20... I'm not saying you should go out and pay money just to get ubuntu to work, but it IS a foolproof solution
[00:03] <Dr_Link> I have installed Timidity++, why can't I play MIDIs with programs such as KMid?
[00:03] <Dr_Link> Sound is set up correctly
[00:04] <b4l74z4r> is it possible to remove the networking icon in the upper right corner?
[00:04] <zcat[1]> Jack_Sparrow: I have three different cards, two of them very well supported.. gutsy just launches everything at the same time and as near as I can tell, hdclient times out and goes to sleep before iwconfig has finished bringing up the connection properly
[00:04] <zcat[1]> *dhclient
[00:04] <Iburnaga> Huh, is ther ea command for the command line that would allow me to brute force install 8.04 on my main hard drive?
[00:04] <Dr_Link> Oh, waitk.
[00:04] <Dr_Link> Sound isn't playing correctly.
[00:04] <Iburnaga> As a smaller partition?
[00:04] <zcat[1]> so I think it's actually a failing in gutsy .. it's worse with some cards than others..
[00:04] <warriorforgod> Is there any way I can blacklist an update?
[00:05] <CK_MY> why my screen resolution suddenly change to 640 x 480 ? i cant set back to 1024 x 768 any help?
[00:05] <dmsuperman> guys, how can i make it so double clicking in the collection in amarok starts playing the song?
[00:05] <Dr_Link> That's odd... when I'm in the sound dialog, it plays the test sound correctly...
[00:06] <Dr_Link> and I've disabled the motherboard's sound...
[00:06] <Jack_Sparrow> StPatrick, three hours of my time fighting unsupported hardware or $20 for supported hardware that will work out of the box...  Tough choice   Even my bcm43xx broadcoms have worked fine with no issues..
[00:06] <Dr_Link> so it routes into the Sound card... why isn't the sound playing in any media player?
[00:06] <zcat[1]> network manager should configure wifi, wait untill it's associated with the AP, then start asking for an address
[00:06] <CK_MY> why my screen resolution suddenly change to 640 x 480 ? i cant set back to 1024 x 768 any help?
[00:07] <MountainD00d> Easy Question: How does one say Ubuntu? "Oooh-boon-two"? "Ooh-bun-two"?
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> CK_MY, did you try to install a propietary driver off the web/
[00:07] <zcat[1]> perhaps it's my AP that takes too long to negotiate, I don't know... all I know is it takes four or five tries to get a connection up. SOmething is busted
[00:07] <bwayne> MountainD00d:  the first way.
[00:07] <Dr_Link> MountainD00d, the first one.
[00:07] <Dr_Link> heh, I used to pronounce it "You Bun Two"
[00:07] <CK_MY> Jack_Sparrow, i din install any driver after restart it auto become 640 x 480
[00:08] <bwayne> you have to purse the lips to say it correctly.  ooboontoo
[00:08] <Dr_Link> Could I get an answer to my question please?
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> CK_MY, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg (to just set res) If you get locked out Select vesa as your video card and 1024 max res.  Use tab or enter to accept all other defaults
[00:08] <zcat[1]> ooh boon two ?
[00:08] <wobbiebobbie> I just want to say THANKS  to the guys who help me get my system started last night. I was able to get my  files i need although I had to format and reinstall ubuntu.
[00:08] <ph34r> lol i thought it was uebunto
[00:08] <Dr_Link> Ah finally it's working now!
[00:09] <kindofabuzz> where are my ssl certs stored?
[00:09] <Iburnaga> What is gurb error 22 anyhow?
[00:09] <Iburnaga> Is it an error of boot order or what?
[00:10] <Iburnaga> Oh wow I feel dumb, I forgot to check the guide on the thing.
[00:10] <romme> is pcmanfm the only tabbed file manager for linux?
[00:11] <Odd-rationale> romme: konqueror
[00:11] <thunc> front
[00:11] <romme> oops, forgot about konqueror. i'm using it right now. so, pcmanfm and konqueror are the only ones?
[00:12] <Jack_Sparrow> romme, Have you ever looked at Thunar?
[00:12] <warriorforgod> Is there any way I can blacklist an update?
[00:12] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: no tab browsing
[00:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Ah
[00:12] <dmsuperman> to mount a folder to another folder, what do i put in my fstab?
[00:12] <romme> Jack_Sparrow: i've actually used it and spoken to the developers, which assured me that tabs will never be implemented
[00:12] <romme> s/which/whom/
[00:13] <kusanagi_> how do i know my current Tcl/Tk version?
[00:13] <romme> s/whom/who
[00:13] <dmsuperman> i've got /media/sdb2/other-folder /home/me/blah ext3 defaults 0 0
[00:13] <bwayne> Iburnaga: it appears it's a case of the kernel seeing your drives differently than grub.  check for error 22 here ->  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-122656-highlight-grub+error+22.html?sid=cd5ef5d307973da1ceed5a50f8f4c415
[00:13] <n6rej> .
[00:13] <Odd-rationale> romme: those are the only 2 i can think of atm
[00:14] <kusanagi_> how do i know the current version of some package i have installed? or how do i know if i have it installed? thanks
[00:14] <bwayne> Iburnaga: for instance, when you installed grub, it thought that your second drive was the primary drive.  try reversing the boot order in your BIOS.
[00:15] <Odd-rationale> kusanagi_: open synaptic
[00:15] <Iburnaga> Thank you sir. I've found the gurb hand book though, online. n.n Hopefully this will solve my problems if now...well...I could always wipe everything and start a new bu I'd need a new copy of windows.
[00:15] <dmsuperman> nobody knows how to mount a folder to another folder?
[00:15] <bwayne> dmsuperman: easy as pie.
[00:15] <kusanagi_> hey thanks alot odd
[00:15] <kusanagi_> im super noob :(
[00:15] <Odd-rationale> kusanagi_: np. that was an easy one. :)
[00:15] <comicinker> Help, my help-browser is driving me crazy: starting takes a very long time, it uses all my cpu sources and displays nothing. if I try to close it, a new, empty help browser window opens immidiatelly. what's wrong? how can I repair it?
[00:16] <dmsuperman> bwayne: "/media/sdb2/folder /home/me/newfolder ext3 defaults 0 0" doesn't do it, it complains it's not a block device
[00:16] <prakriti> dmsuperman : mount -o bind /sourcefolder /destinationfolder
[00:16] <dmsuperman> prakriti: i wanted to put it in fstab for automatic mounting
[00:16] <BritGuy> Please could someone take a look at the routing table i posted on pastebin.com, is this normal I'm confused?
[00:17] <prakriti> uhm
[00:17] <prakriti> hrm
[00:17] <bwayne> dmsuperman: hmm ... my fstab looks similar.  but I put it under "user" instead of "defaults".
[00:17] <daves111> can't seem to find gdebi to execute
[00:17] <prakriti> dmsuperman :  /media/sdb2/folder /home/me/newfolder none user,bind 0 0
[00:17] <prakriti> try that
[00:18] <aschmack> is it possible to add the mythbuntu repos to ubuntu
[00:18] <RequinB4> Can anyone suggest a GUI FTP client in the repos (I know about !best, just looking for options)
[00:18] <dmsuperman> prakriti: =D
[00:18] <dmsuperman> thanks :D
[00:18] <prakriti> np
[00:18] <TwinX> dmsuperman;  mount folder to folder? why not A Link?
[00:19] <daves111> is GDebi executable?
[00:19] <TwinX> or just mount sdb2 to newfolder
[00:19] <dmsuperman> TwinX: mounting a folder from another hard drive to my firefox profiles folder
[00:19] <dmsuperman> TwinX: What's a link?
[00:19] <bwayne> daves111:  GDebi is a program for install .deb files, yes.
[00:19] <gilster32> @ubuntu+1
[00:19] <TwinX> Link = shortcut
[00:20] <daves111> i can't seem to find it
[00:20] <daves111> it says it is installed
[00:20] <TwinX> daves rightclick on the .deb and say open with gdebi
[00:20] <dmsuperman> TwinX: Like a windows shortcut? because that won't work :P
[00:20] <Iburnaga> Ok...I don't have grub installed on either hard disk...
[00:20] <TwinX> daves111; ^^
[00:20] <Iburnaga> How in the crap.
[00:20] <MountainD00d> I'm setting up an old desktop with Ubuntu Server Edition, but I'm wondering; will it have much of the same functionality of the desktop version?
[00:20] <tdoggette> How can I get apt to install all recommended packages?
[00:20] <IndyGunFreak> tdoggette: recommended for what?
[00:20] <BritGuy> Kernel IP routeing table
[00:20] <BritGuy> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[00:20] <BritGuy> 192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[00:20] <BritGuy> 169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     1000   0        0 eth0
[00:20] <BritGuy> 0.0.0.0         192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[00:20] <FloodBot1> BritGuy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:21] <tdoggette> IndyGunFreak: When I apt-get install, it has a few Recommended and Suggested packages.
[00:21] <dmsuperman> TwinX: I wanted it so /home/me/blah was actually just pointing to /media/sdb2/somefolder
[00:21] <BritGuy> Is this normal?
[00:21] <bwayne> MountainD00d:  not out of the box.  but you can install any package you'd like after you install the server edition.
[00:21] <daves111> it isn't listed with the open with
[00:21] <pharoh> my kate won't show the terminal at the bottom...anyone know why?
[00:21] <IndyGunFreak> tdoggette: it will install them automatically
[00:21] <IndyGunFreak> far as i know.
[00:21] <tdoggette> IndyGunFreak: I want to install all of them along with the dependencies.
[00:21] <MountainD00d> bwayne: Thank you
[00:21] <Odd-rationale> :)
[00:21] <kitche> BritGuy: looks pretty normal to me
[00:21] <tdoggette> IndyGunFreak: No, the ones that will be installed are listed, and they include the dependencies, not the others.
[00:22] <IndyGunFreak> tdoggette: try searching for them in Synaptic
[00:22] <TwinX> dmsuperman;  go to /media/sdb2/somefolder   rightclick on somefolder and click make link, and cut and paste that link anywhere u like
[00:22] <kitche> tdoggette: man apt-get actually tells you what switch you need to use to install recommended ones as well
[00:22] <Odd-rationale> tdoggette: aptitude will install all recommneded packages but not suggested packages
[00:22] <tdoggette> Thanks, guys.
[00:22] <BritGuy> Network works fine under Windows, under linux the correct driver is loaded, DHCP for some unknown reason re-fuses to work, changed to manual IP address and DNS, still doesn't work, checked routing tables, these are correct, what have i missed??
[00:22] <dmsuperman> TwinX: then where I paste the link, it will point to /media/sdb2/somefolder? changes to files inside it will redirect to the proper folder?
[00:23] <bwayne> dmsuperman:  something like 'link -s /home/me/blah /media/sdb2/somefolder' ought to create a symbolic link from blah to somefolder.
[00:23] <TwinX> dmsuperman; yes
[00:23] <dmsuperman> schweet :D
[00:23] <TwinX> bwayne's method is faster
[00:23] <TwinX> :)
[00:23] <prakriti> the only time I use bind is when I'm binding my WoW config directory for linux over the one for windows on the vfat drive
[00:24] <Boohbah> vfat... *shiver*
[00:24] <BritGuy> Someone please tell me lol
[00:25] <dmsuperman> bwayne: Your command causes invalid cross-device link
[00:25] <Saardox> hello, how do I uninstall a splash screen?
[00:25] <TwinX> BritGuy; nameserver maybe
[00:26] <daves111> to update office, someone said to download and open with GDebi; I don't seem to have an option to do that
[00:26] <bwayne> dmsuperman:   hmmm ... maybe because your drive is mounted under /media.
[00:26] <BritGuy> What should nameserver be set to?
[00:26] <peppe> hallo an alle
[00:26] <thunc> TwinX: That is the problem...
[00:26] <TwinX> aha
[00:26] <dmsuperman> bwayne: perhaps, but doing it through gui worked
[00:27] <bwayne> dmsuperman:  silly linux.  :-)
[00:27] <dmsuperman> lol
[00:27] <BritGuy> Please someone tell me what nameserver should be in the routing tables, I want to kill it!! lol
[00:27] <dmsuperman> is there a linux tool that's basically a mini color-dropper/
[00:28] <knoxville> whats up fellas
[00:28] <ex17> hi knoxville
[00:29] <knoxville> how do you find other chat rooms
[00:29] <knoxville> this is my first time in irc
[00:29] <knoxville> someone show me the ropes plz
[00:29] <kindofabuzz> www.searchirc.com
[00:29] <knoxville> kk
[00:29] <knoxville> is there a good site to learn commands
[00:30] <kindofabuzz> google irc
[00:30] <Stroganoff> !bash | knoxville
[00:30] <ubotu> knoxville: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[00:30] <Stroganoff> oops
[00:30] <knoxville> i know terminal
[00:30] <knoxville> i know linux
[00:30] <knoxville> i just dont know irc
[00:30] <Stroganoff> knoxville: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[00:30] <thunc> Stroganoff: [ Winslow T. Wheeler: Mangled Rationales for a Fatter Defense Budget ]. { America's Best Political Newsletter. }
[00:30] <knoxville> kk thanks
[00:30] <Farnaby> I have a somewhat strange question... I recently installed gutsy (new computer forced me to upgrade) and suddenly there is no option to turn the computer off
[00:31] <knoxville> nice thanks stroganoff thats a good site
[00:31] <bwayne> Farnaby:  weird.  you may have some permission issues.  make sure you're in the admin and wheel group.
[00:31] <daves111> leave /
[00:32] <daves111> quit /
[00:32] <knoxville> w
[00:32] <knoxville> who
[00:32] <knoxville> op
[00:32] <Farnaby> bwayne, I am
[00:32] <TwinX>  / quit maybe without the space
[00:32] <kakoonia> Hey
[00:32] <kakoonia> Someone Tried the new ubuntu?
[00:32] <Stroganoff> knoxville, join #sandbox for testing commands ;)
[00:32] <Farnaby> there is not even an option to do it in the quit menu, just hibernate and suspend (which is funny since its not a laptop)
[00:32] <Flannel> kakoonia: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy questions
[00:32] <knoxville> k going to try
[00:34] <Chief> Free Radio at   http://www.dollar.ath.cx   when your here lookin for help, why not listen to music?
[00:34] <aschmack> okay so i have two machines
[00:34] <Fishscene> Hello
[00:35] <kakoonia> ok.. i got a question.. i just got a new LCD screen to work with on my new laptop
[00:35] <kakoonia> im trying to install it here.. but i cant find a way to do it, nor a way to switch between screens
[00:35] <tonyb486> Can I force wubi to run with 254mb ram, its reporting it wrong or something. (Wubi says it needs 256mb ram)
[00:35] <BobSlob> Alright... I really need some help before I go bonkers. I have an nvidia 6800gt hooked directly to my HDTV TV via dvi->hdmi. Now for some reason I can't get my resolution above 1024x768
[00:35] <BobSlob> Which is making mythtv look like junk
[00:35] <Swish> I've got a somewhat silly question.
[00:35] <kakoonia> hello?
[00:35] <shivamib> hello!
[00:35] <bwayne> aschmack:  you trying to network hem?
[00:35] <bwayne> *them
[00:35] <Fishscene> I'm trying to setup an Ubuntu 7 server with LTSP. I'm using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall as a guide, but "sudo ltsp-build-client" failed because I wasn't connected to the internet
[00:35] <aschmack> hold on its a long question
[00:36] <aschmack> and no
[00:36] <Swish> I'm trying to set net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_buckets in /etc/sysctl.conf, and when I reboot, that setting is not taking effect.  6.06.2 LTS (server)
[00:36] <Fishscene> When I connected my machine to the internet
[00:36] <Swish> other settings in sysctl.conf do get set after reboot just fine... like net.core.somaxconn and others
[00:36] <Farnaby> bobslob, you need to edit your xorg11.conf file from the sounds of it
[00:36] <Fishscene> it says that "/opt/ltsp/i386" already exists and must be removed
[00:36] <bwayne> bye Ubuntu'ers.  love ya
[00:37] <woodwizzle> :( still 2 monitors
[00:37] <J-Unit> were do i download the thing here http://nancib.wordpress.com/2007/10/03/upgrade-the-calendar-display-in-ubuntu-gutsy/
[00:37] <woodwizzle> and now no composite
[00:37] <BobSlob> Farnaby: I'm not sure howto properly do that... but its weird cause if I set the res to 720p the screen is "zoomed" and doesnt fit the tv properly
[00:37] <Swish> heck even net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range gets set fine in sysctl.conf!
[00:37] <aschmack> one runs mythbuntu and the other runs ubuntu. i've had the mythbuntu server up for a while and recently updated it with the update manager. now on the other machine i just installed mythtv. on the mythbuntu server i have some 2008 version and on the new machine i have a 2007 version even the sources.list's on both machines are the same. i even added the mythbuntu repo to the new machine back they still arent the same version. h
[00:37] <aschmack> elp? bwayne
[00:37] <Swish> just not the ip_conntrack stuff
[00:38] <Swish> what am I missing here? :)
[00:38] <eric> rbll2008-orga
[00:38] <tylerflick> Can someone please help me with Unison?
[00:39] <gaucho> I'm building my own alsa drivers, but I want not to do a dirty "make install". So, How can I make a .deb that dpkg look like a backport?
[00:39] <Kaja> checkinstall
[00:39] <kakoonia_> hi
[00:40] <J-Unit> can sum1 help me make my calendar thing in gutsy be like hardy plz bcuz my gf is in spain and i want spains clock thing as well as my area's
[00:40] <woodwizzle> gaucho: there is a program called checkinstall that automates the making of debs in replacement of make install
[00:40] <Flannel> aschmack: If both sources.lists are the same, you shouldn't have different versions (unless you haven't updated one since changing the sources)
[00:40] <kakoonia_> i need some help with installing a LCD screen as a default screen and making my laptop screen as secondary.. any1 got a clue of how to?
[00:40] <legend2440> J-Unit: click on the word package in the first paragraph. but you have to log in or register to log on to the ubuntu the forum
[00:40] <gaucho> Kaja, cool. But What I need to do makeinstall build my package like a backport? If I just run checkinstall -D it will create a package that will fail to install because will try to write on my original alsa package
[00:41] <scott__> hi  can anyone till me how go to a gnome from a command line. the computer boots up but stays in a command line
[00:41] <angel> hi everyone!  do you know what are the packages to install the mysql-server??
[00:41] <TwinX> kakoonia_;  nvidia ?
[00:41] <kakoonia_> ye
[00:41] <TwinX> kakoonia_;  did you try nvidia-settings?
[00:41] <kszys> msg kakoonia_ http://www.howtoforge.com/dual-monitor-setup-on-ubuntu7.10
[00:41] <J-Unit> legend2440, wat word package in wat first paragraph?? im rely not understanding u no offense
[00:41] <kszys> ups ;)
[00:41] <kakoonia_> heh
[00:41] <kakoonia_> Thnks
[00:41] <Farnaby> So I take it nobody else has any ideas for my sorta strange problem regarding no turn off button?
[00:42] <IndyGunFreak> Farnaby: i had that issue w/ Edgy, but I don't remember why or how i fixed it.
[00:42] <kakoonia_> TwinX: i used to have it.. but from some reasons i cant right find it..
[00:42] <kakoonia_> ohh
[00:42] <kakoonia_> TwinX: found it
[00:43] <angel> i do apt-get source mysql-server but the source installed drop an error when compile because dont have the filesman/Makefilein, doc/Makefile.in, debian/defs.mk.in, debian/Makefile.in
[00:43] <Farnaby> indygunfreak, sounds like it might be an ACPI problem I guess... found 1 three post topic in the forum
[00:43] <legend2440> J-Unit: where it says Ubuntu Studio has put together a %C9package to make it easy for people testing Gutsy to try it out
[00:43] <J-Unit> legend2440, o u saw the link
[00:43] <TwinX> kakoonia_; I also got 2 screens, nvidia-settings will do the job
[00:43] <legend2440> J-Unit: yes
[00:43] <J-Unit> legend2440, cuz i had given the link a long time ago thats y i was confused
[00:43] <IndyGunFreak> Farnaby: i honestly don't remember.
[00:43] <angel> soyou know where can i find this files
[00:44] <Farnaby> sudo dpkg-reconfigure acpi-support && sudo dpkg-reconfigure acpid is what I am currently trying
[00:44] <Farnaby> Not sure if it will work
[00:44] <fade_> does anyone know how to get joysticks axises to work?
[00:44] <IndyGunFreak> kakoonia_: just remember if you want to save your settings to xorg(so you don't have to modify it everytime you restart), run gksudo nvidia-settings and then "save to x file"
[00:44] <Farnaby> and nope... curses
[00:44] <knoxville>  #sandbox
[00:45] <kakoonia_> IndyGunFreak : Aha... yes.. i was just trying to save it to xorg.conf, but it wrote me a msg that he was unable to make a backup-file or something like that.. is it what you were talking about?
[00:45] <fade_> cause I tried looking through the forums but I got nothing :(
[00:45] <IndyGunFreak> kakoonia_: yes, run gksudo nvidia-settings  that will start nvidia-settings w/ root priv., and allow you to save to Xorg
[00:46] <kakoonia_> Sweeet!
[00:46] <kakoonia_> ;)
[00:46] <Swish> I guess I can add a script to /etc/init.d/ to do a sysctl -p after all other things are loaded
[00:46] <nukeslion> I would like to say that ubuntu has finally installed smoothly for me without any strange errors or things not working <3 woot
[00:46] <J-Unit> legend2440, do i have to run that command or can i simply double click the .deb?
[00:47] <Swish> WHAT!
[00:47] <Dr_willis> J-Unit,  When messing with .deb files - its best to use the command line.
[00:47] <Swish> error: "Operation not permitted" setting key "net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_buckets"!!!
[00:47]  * Swish gasps, shocked!
[00:47] <_Lucretia_> does anyone else have problems with flash sites on 64-bit? I mean, where there is multiple flash "movies" attempting to play at the same time? i.e. it doesn't work and all flash (seems to) crash
[00:47] <_Lucretia_> ?
[00:47] <IndyGunFreak> Swish: uh, sudo?
[00:47] <Swish> I -am- sudoed!
[00:48] <Farnaby> and solved.... though apparently I was the fool who did it to myself ;)
[00:48] <Farnaby> Time to restart. Thanks
[00:48] <J-Unit> Dr_willis, wats so bad bout the gui way?
[00:48] <Swish> and if I do:  sysctl net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_buckets=16384 that fails too.. hmm
[00:49] <Swish> perhaps I have to do this another way!
[00:49] <Eped> anyone around to help me with a certain issue?
[00:49] <Swish> well I guess I found the issue :)
[00:49] <Dr_willis> J-Unit,  its best to learn the shell and do it from the shell.
[00:49] <scott__> is there s way to get to x windows from a comm and line
[00:49] <Dr_willis> J-Unit,  lack of feedback in any error messages is one issue.
[00:49] <Dr_willis> scott__,  'startx'
[00:50] <Swish> net.ipv4.netfilter.ip_conntrack_max can be set no problem
[00:50] <J-Unit> Dr_Link, so its just "sudo dpkg -i nameoffile.deb" ?
[00:50] <Swish> it's just the darned buckets.
[00:50] <Eped> anyone ever run into a problem where their hard drives weren't detected when attempting to install 7.1?
[00:50] <scott__> thank you
[00:50] <Dr_Link> huh?
[00:50] <J-Unit> Dr_willis, so its just "sudo dpkg -i nameoffile.deb"?
[00:50] <Dr_Link> Oh, you mean Dr_willis.
[00:50] <IndyGunFreak> Eped: its been known to happen
[00:50] <J-Unit> Dr_Link, sry wrong person
[00:50] <J-Unit> Dr_Link, ya
[00:50]  * _Lucretia_ takes that as a no then
[00:50] <Dr_willis> J-Unit,  yes.
[00:50] <Dr_Link> no prob.
[00:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[00:50] <Eped> well, i've tried restarting several times, no solution
[00:51] <Eped> and I get a series of errors when I start it up as well
[00:51] <IndyGunFreak> restarting isn't going to fix it,
[00:51] <J-Unit> Dr_willis, , k, thx
[00:51] <IndyGunFreak> Eped: yhour'e talking about from the live CD,correct?
[00:51] <Eped> yes
[00:51] <cerowain> _Lucretia_, I have similar problems with flash under 64 bit.
[00:51] <_Lucretia_> thank god for that...it's relaly annoying
[00:51] <IndyGunFreak> Eped: it sounds like its not picking up your IDE controller
[00:51] <Eped> as soon as I get to the partition menu, nothing comes up, it's just blank
[00:51] <Eped> weird? my hard drives are fine on vista and xp
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> Eped: well, 1. linux isn't vista or XP.
[00:52] <DIL> sata ?
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> Eped: and notice what i said, i said it doesn't recognize your controllers..
[00:52] <timo1teo> so quick question...when i try to enable the 3D accelerator in unresricted drivers it says cannot enable fix broken packages
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> doesnj't mean they dont' work
[00:53] <Eped> why wouldn't it recognize my controllers then?
[00:53] <IndyGunFreak> Eped: could be any number of reasons, to new, stuff like that, driver support is written into the kernel, because developers don't make linux drivers for them
[00:53] <IndyGunFreak> so if its really new, it may not work.
[00:53] <Eped> actually
[00:54] <Eped> it's from around 2006
[00:54] <DIL> Eped, if it is a sata drive i have seen where there are some probs
[00:54] <J-Unit> Dr_willis, i installed it, how come my calendar thing is the same, do i need to restart?
[00:54] <theunixgeek> What's the Dell Ubuntu support phone number?
[00:54] <Eped> I did have ubuntu 6.06 a while ago
[00:54] <timo1teo> o quick question...when i try to enable the 3D accelerator in unresricted drivers it says cannot enable fix broken packages
[00:54] <Swish> anyone who's using a > 6.06.2 ubuntu version feel like checking out this sysctl issue?
[00:54] <Eped> sata drive? hmm may be it
[00:54] <Flannel> Eped: Did you upgrade straight to Hardy?
[00:54] <theunixgeek> !dell
[00:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:54]  * Swish is curious if it's fixed in non-dapper
[00:54] <kom7> a
[00:55] <Eped> no, Flannel
[00:55] <nickrud> timo1teo in a terminal, type   sudo apt-get -f install  (-f means fix)
[00:55] <Eped> I have 2 HDDs but they're not running on SATA, it's weird because I tried to reinstall 6.06 from CD
[00:55] <Flannel> Swish: Just to be pedantic, you have 6.06, the point releases are ISO only.  Yes, I know lsb_release says point releases, but that's just silly.
[00:55] <timo1teo> thank you nick
[00:55] <Eped> and it recognized both my HDDs, but when I insert my 7.10 CD
[00:55] <Swish> Flannel, heh!
[00:55] <Eped> blank now
[00:55] <nickrud> timo1teo *may* fix it, if it's a simple issue
[00:55] <DIL> !pendantic
[00:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pendantic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:55] <Dr_willis> J-Unit,  i have no idea what you mean by calander thing, or what you installed.
[00:56] <DIL> new word for me
[00:56] <Flannel> Swish: But, I'm running dapper as well, so I can't actually offer assistance after being anal.
[00:56] <Swish> haha
[00:56] <J-Unit> Dr_willis, http://nancib.wordpress.com/2007/10/03/upgrade-the-calendar-display-in-ubuntu-gutsy/
[00:56] <Swish> I guess some day I'll install VMs for all the other server releases
[00:56] <Swish> then I can check for myself :)
[00:56]  * nickrud thinks flannel just likes being associated with something that's 'dapper'
[00:56] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[00:56] <Eped> clueless as to what to do.. should probably check my BIOs
[00:57] <Swish> nickrud, you could have teased Flannel even more and s/dapper/anal
[00:57] <dmsuperman> guys, how can i install a .package file?
[00:57] <nickrud> Swish I try to stay G - rated here ;)
[00:57] <Swish> ahh yes!
[00:57] <Swish> I think I saw something about that in the /topic once :)
[00:58] <timo1teo> so its still not fixed.....so how do i find out what i should do? im trying to get my ati mobility radeon x1400 go work
[00:58] <legend2440> J-Unit: after you install intlclock you have to right click on top panel and select Add to Panel then add intl clock from Miscellaneous
[00:58] <odinsbane> I installed cherrypy3 and it depends on some unmet dependancy.  Is there a way to install othersoftware without removing cherry py3?
[00:58] <randoman> hey guys, how would you answer this question? "in terms of file sharing, how is Windows different from Linux?"?
[00:58] <thunc> randoman: isntall_device not specified. i think it needs /dev/sda or something
[00:58] <ianliu_88> This is not a Ubuntu specific question.. but I wonder if someone can answer.. How do I use the "Modeline" plugin for GEdit?
[00:59] <randoman> ?
[00:59] <nickrud> timo1teo put the complete output from that command on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[00:59] <Dr_willis> randoman,  windows and linux both support the 'network neighborhood' stuff.. what sort of an aswer are you expecting? Linux has othe rways to share 'files' as well
[00:59] <Flannel> randoman: Ubuntu *can* use samba (the windows file sharing protocol) but there are better methods (NFS) for non-windows networks.
[00:59] <DIL> homework?
[00:59] <kakoonia_> yo.. i got my lcd running now.. but my laptop screen is plain ubuntu, wihout all my stuff on, like a new user logged in, (no gnome)
[00:59] <randoman> idk its for a coverletter for ajob
[00:59] <randoman> In the cover letter, please include an answer to the question "in
[00:59] <randoman> terms of file sharing, how is Windows different from Linux?". (Feel
[00:59] <randoman> free replace "Linux" with Solaris, MacOS or any other common OS that
[00:59] <randoman> you are familiar with). The answer should be brief - approx. 10 lines.
[00:59] <FloodBot1> randoman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:00] <randoman> they wanted me to answer this
[01:00] <kakoonia_> someone got any ideas?
[01:00] <J-Unit> ok so in the preferences of the new clock, wat do i fill things in with, like wat is the time zone in spain?
[01:00] <Nemes> Does anybody know what could be the reason I can't see sftp logged in users with "w" (as root)?
[01:00] <DIL> i will apply to that job as i have the answer
[01:00] <J-Unit> legend2440, ok so in the preferences of the new clock, wat do i fill things in with, like wat is the time zone in spain?
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> kakoonia_: well just move what you want onto it.
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> thast what i do.
[01:01] <randoman> :P
[01:01] <inspired12> get the beta
[01:01] <inspired12> its so shexy
[01:01] <Dr_willis> randoman,  'linux is more flexiable and cheaper.' :)
[01:02] <kakoonia_> IndyGunFreak: but its configured differently like a new user.. only two desktops, when i usualy have 4.. and btw, how do i drag things to it, its like touchless..?
[01:02] <randoman> for sure, the only thing I could come up with was, its open source. which doesnt require a license for every computer its on
[01:02] <IndyGunFreak> kakoonia_: i just use my mouse to drag things to it.
[01:03] <kakoonia_> IndyGunFreak: Thanks dude.. but imma look for another solution for this one.. :)
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[01:04] <kakoonia_> btw, whats xinerama in nvidia-settings?
[01:05] <tonyb486> Can I force wubi to run with 254mb ram, its reporting it wrong or something. (Wubi says it needs 256mb ram)
[01:05] <Dr_willis> kakoonia_,  twinview supercedes xinerama, normally you want ximerama off.
[01:05] <kakoonia_> ohh.. ok Thx
[01:05] <Eped> meh, this isn't worth the time and stress
[01:07] <legend2440> J-Unit: same timezone as berlin
[01:07] <J-Unit> legend2440, which is?
[01:07] <vish> hi
[01:07] <|Zippo|> somebody use some document management system here?
[01:08] <Iburnaga> can you instal grub on a linux swap?
[01:08] <legend2440> J-Unit: same timezone as berlin under preferences click ADD then Europe/Berlin
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> Iburnaga: grub goes in the MBR of a hard drive
[01:08] <tylerflick> is rm -rf/ the delete command?
[01:08] <Flannel> tylerflick: You don't want to do that.
[01:09] <lewench> Is there an easier way to mount shared network folders in ubuntu than using smbmount //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword??
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> that would be very bad
[01:09] <Iburnaga> Yeah but using setup it requires it to have the base files for it. XD
[01:09] <Iburnaga> Or so says the setup command does install work differently?
[01:09] <tylerflick> Flannel: what's the delete command in terminal for manual deleting a file
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> huh
[01:09] <tylerflick> Flannel: I thought it was the rf
[01:09] <lewench> Is there an easier way to mount shared network folders in ubuntu than using smbmount //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword??
[01:10] <Flannel> tylerflick: rm is ReMove
[01:10] <sjovan> lewench: yes, indeed.
[01:10] <J-Unit> legend2440, k, thx, im gona go eat then sleep now
[01:10] <DIL> randoman
[01:10] <Flannel> tylerflick: rf is recursive and force, which is sometimes a bad idea, especially if done on important directories.
[01:10] <tylerflick> Flannel: So it would be like rm ~/.unison?
[01:10] <lewench> sjovan, How!! I use the "Connect to server" but its not mounted on ubuntu, so Amarok can't read the music.
[01:10] <tylerflick> Flannel: would that delete the .unison file?
[01:10] <Flannel> tylerflick: If thats a file, yes.  If its a folder, rm -rf /home/username/.unison/
[01:11] <tylerflick> Flannel: I believe it's a file extension
[01:11] <sjovan> lewench: you could put things in system ---> administration ---> shared folders to share stuff
[01:11] <Flannel> tylerflick: and since its in your homedir, you don't need sudo.  Which is an added bonus in case of typo (or an errant space)
[01:11] <smokeh> join #divx-funny
[01:11] <tylerflick> Flannel: You ever use Unison over DHCP?
[01:11] <sarthor>  Hi, i want to block all these adds from my server, http://ad.z5x.net/st?ad_type=iframe&ad_size=728x90&section=260343?   HOw?? asked in #squid but no reply since long time
[01:11] <Flannel> tylerflick: No, thats just a file.  files/folders with a dot as their first character are hidden.
[01:11] <Flannel> tylerflick: No
[01:12] <tylerflick> Flannel: How do I make them appear under nautilus?
[01:12] <Flannel> tylerflick: ctrl-H is show hidden, Or theres a menu item for it as well
[01:12] <lewench> sjovan, so what your saying is, if I use this shared folder, I can mount a network drive (mybook 500g ehternet based) to this folder?
[01:12] <tylerflick> Flannel: Thank you
[01:14] <vish> does airlink awll5026 work fully ?
[01:14] <vish> it works somethimes but after downloading a certain amount it loses the signal
[01:14] <sjovan> lewench: oh... no. shit. think it's time to go to bed. didn't get your question the first time. shared folders is for shareing folders. sorry
[01:15] <Dr_Link> Hardy is already almost ready? O.o
[01:15] <lewench> sjovan, yes figured. Ok thanks.
[01:15] <lewench> Is there an easier way to mount shared network folders in ubuntu than using smbmount //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword??
[01:15] <elmer> What is the best text editor for HTML?
[01:16] <smokeh> http://www.annuaire-irc.com/top-liste.php
[01:16] <Boohbah> Dr_Link: yes, i am using it
[01:17] <elmer> Wow. I retract my question. GEdit is just as good as Notepad++, I'm impressed!
[01:17] <lewench> Is there an easier way to mount shared network folders in ubuntu than using smbmount //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword??
[01:17] <gligorhoria> hellow, can u please tell me how much time does memtest86 in 7.10 require
[01:18] <Flannel> !samba | lewench, first link
[01:18] <ubotu> lewench, first link: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[01:18] <knoxville> memtest will take about 20-30 mins
[01:18] <Flannel> gligorhoria: It'll run forever if you let it.  It just keeps looping.
[01:18] <lewench> Thanks Flannel and ubotu
[01:18] <timo1teo> okay so now quick question....when i click the normal options under visual effects it tells me the composite extension is not available?
[01:19] <gligorhoria> it sayes 64 % and it runs for 10 h now :) isbthat ok?
[01:19] <kindofabuzz> or webmin ubotu
[01:19] <Hammer89> is there a command I can issue from the terminal to lock my screen?
[01:19] <Stroganoff> gligorhoria memtest runs until you stop it
[01:20] <timo1teo> okay so now quick question....when i click the normal options under visual effects it tells me the composite extension is not available?
[01:20] <myself234> Hi, I can not get DRI to work. here is my xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/bjPXnX51.html and Xorg.0.log:http://rafb.net/p/41d8bp41.html ; please help:)
[01:21] <kindofabuzz> how do i fix bad authenticity when logging in by ssh?
[01:21] <timo1teo> okay so now quick question....when i click the normal options under visual effects it tells me the composite extension is not available?
[01:22] <gligorhoria> ok, but does it keep the procesor at 100% ? that would be cool to test a new computer for 24 h to see any flows, temperature at full load etc...
[01:22] <Stroganoff> gligorhoria no it doesnt
[01:22] <thecre80r> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[01:23] <FloodBot3> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[01:23] <FFEMTcJ> I'm trying to connect to a windows computer on my network. I can't even access the workgroup. On my other computer running ubuntu, i can access the other computers.. Any idea what needs to be done to access the other computers
[01:23] <Iburnaga> >.>
[01:23] <timo1teo> okay so now quick question....when i click the normal options under visual effects it tells me the composite extension is not available?
[01:23] <Dr_willis> FFEMTcJ,  you mean the linux box cant see the windows machines? or windows machine cant see ubuntu machine?
[01:23] <jappdev> gligorhoria: if you want to burn in your sever, one way to peg the processor is to use the 'yes' command, it will keep it busy for awhile
[01:23] <FFEMTcJ> Dr_willis: linux>winodws
[01:24] <amenado> FFEMTcJ-> define what you meant by access to windows? ping? telnet?
[01:24] <gligorhoria> ty, 1 more question, the system kinda freezed and i think the ext3 jurnal was damadged, it won't boot, the hard is new...
[01:24] <FFEMTcJ> amenado: the files on the HD..
[01:24] <omar> beryl compiz 3d command activé sur debian
[01:24] <gligorhoria> jappdev thank you
[01:24] <Dr_willis> FFEMTcJ,  theres several ways for linux to 'browse' or 'mount' the windows shares. first test is to try to ping the windows box from the linux box.
[01:24] <Dr_willis> FFEMTcJ,  kde and gnome both have theor own smb browser features. I tend to use the fusesmb tool however.
[01:25] <FFEMTcJ> Dr_willis: seems to work fine
[01:25] <gligorhoria> is there a way to fix hard bads beafore booting?
[01:25] <FFEMTcJ> pinging that is
[01:25] <gligorhoria> or with live cd, or do i need system rescue cd from thevfrench folks?
[01:25] <Dr_willis> FFEMTcJ,  its possible the windows firewall is in the way.   The command line samba tools may give some info as to whats going on. check the samba-doc package for the using samba book, it has  info on the command line samba tools.
[01:25] <ratshell> question could someone zip up there /usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin folder and send upload it somewhere so i can download it I kind of messed mine up.
[01:26] <FFEMTcJ> Dr_willis: why would it be working on one ubuntu machine and not another though?
[01:26] <myself234> Can somebody help me with my DRI problem? my xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/bjPXnX51.html and Xorg.0.log:http://rafb.net/p/41d8bp41.html
[01:26] <Dr_willis> FFEMTcJ,  good question. thats why you may want to use the samba command line tools to let themn spit out any error messages.
[01:26] <myself234> can not get 3D acceleration to work
[01:26] <Dr_willis> FFEMTcJ,  I had issues once. where i had the /etc/hosts file with the wrong ip#'s - that goofed me up for a day
[01:26] <ratshell> myself what kind of card you got?
[01:26] <amenado> FFEMTcJ-> the other machine has exact same configs from the one that can not access?
[01:27] <Flannel> ratshell: dpkg -S /usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin will show you which package it comes from, reinstall that package and you'll get it back.
[01:27] <FFEMTcJ> Dr_willis: ok..
[01:27] <Iburnaga> ok, I'm in trouble.
[01:27] <FFEMTcJ> amenado: as far as i know.. there are some diff apps installed but thats it
[01:27] <Dr_willis> FFEMTcJ,  the 'using samba' book - taught me so much. :) its worth the read. at least worth skimming.
[01:27] <FFEMTcJ> Dr_willis: ok
[01:27] <abdou> salut
[01:28] <Iburnaga> the grub command Setup (hd0) is returning invalid device.
[01:28] <gligorhoria> !hi
[01:28] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:28] <amenado> FFEMTcJ-> you tried the  rdp?
[01:28] <yowshi> anyone here managed to get the most recent version of lincity-ng to install on a amd64?
[01:28] <Dr_Link> Iburnaga, have you tried hd1, 2, etc.
[01:29] <Dr_willis> Iburnaga,   you are on a livecd? chrooted in? logged in under safe mode? or just logged in normally?
[01:29] <FFEMTcJ> amenado: new to linux, dunno what rdp is
[01:29] <Iburnaga> I'm on a live cd and I'm in normally.
[01:29] <amenado> FFEMTcJ-> you can try to google for RDP  - remote desktop protocol
[01:29] <FFEMTcJ> k
[01:29] <ratshell> Flannel, thx that works
[01:30] <Iburnaga> And yes I have tried the variations.
[01:30] <Iburnaga> I'm pretty screwed.
[01:30] <Iburnaga> And to top things off I keep geting the too small error when trying to install Ubuntu
[01:30] <Iburnaga> Version 8.04
[01:30] <Iburnaga> And it happens to be the only live cd I have on me
[01:30] <amenado> !hardy | Iburnaga
[01:30] <ubotu> Iburnaga: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:30] <Iburnaga> Oooh.
[01:31] <Iburnaga> .join #ubuntu+1
[01:31] <gligorhoria> how can i fix bad clusters? the system doesn't boot
[01:31] <jerthebear> hi guys
[01:31] <jerthebear> I am using gutsy (7.10)
[01:31] <zelrikriando> hello
[01:32] <amenado> gligorhoria-> can you boot off of liveCD and mount those partitions? if you can save them to another system..just in case
[01:32] <jerthebear> and came upon a problem
[01:32] <Saardox> Hello, is there any command I can put in the terminal to see my network status?
[01:32] <Iburnaga> Thank you. Sorry for troubling.
[01:32] <gfrtttt> ifconfig
[01:32] <Starnestommy> Saardox: nifconfig?
[01:32] <Starnestommy> er, ifconfig
[01:32] <amenado> Saardox-> what kind of status would be interested in?
[01:32] <gligorhoria> amenado i tried fdisk from the live cd and it didn't work...
[01:32] <amenado> Saardox-> what kind of status would you* be interested in?
[01:33] <jerthebear> after modifying my services (system->adminstration->services, toggled last service on list from default), I can no longer modify the services and it seems that my network got screwed too
[01:33] <gligorhoria> lool now it started
[01:33] <gligorhoria> oh good...
[01:33] <upp> when i want to install sun-java he say me that packages is brocken why??????
[01:33] <amenado> gligorhoria-> save your files somewhere else for safekeeping ..
[01:33] <nedge2k> hi all. anyone available for some "bootloader" advise?
[01:33] <gligorhoria> the 5th time it booted but it creeps me out...
[01:33] <Saardox> the thing is, after about an hour, my internet seems to freeze from time to time, but still... the freezing only occurs while browsing, limewire and amsn, and even Xchat keep working
[01:33] <jerthebear> I'm using gutsy ubuntu (7.10) and came upon this problem: after modifying my services (system->adminstration->services, toggled last service on list from default), I can no longer modify the services and it seems that my network got screwed too
[01:34] <gligorhoria> amenado smart advice, i'm taking it, any nice method i shoul de awarw of?
[01:34] <gligorhoria> !ba\kup
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ba\kup - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <gligorhoria> !backup
[01:34] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[01:34] <tylerflick> jerthebear: What do you mean you can nolonger modify them?
[01:34] <charles|64> anyone know of some kind of level control for amarok so i dont have to adjust the volume as the music get softer or louder?
[01:35] <jerthebear> I mean that when I click the services button it says I do not have permission to open it
[01:35] <amenado> gligorhoria-> nothing special, just copy it to a working system or partition
[01:35] <upp> when i want to install sun-java he say me that packages is brocken why??????
[01:35] <jerthebear> but not the general root-required error, because I tried in terminal with sudo
[01:35] <myself234> Bump! Can somebody help me with my DRI problem? my xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/bjPXnX51.html and Xorg.0.log:http://rafb.net/p/41d8bp41.html
[01:36] <nedge2k> im dual booting ubuntu server 7.10 and win server 2008. i'd like my box to live in the corner with no monitor/kb/mouse. is there a bootloader i can use that would allow me to telnet in and tell it which OS to boot?
[01:36] <amenado> jerthebear-> which service was that you toggled?
[01:36] <Pirate_Hunter> +i
[01:36] <jerthebear> the last one, can't remember full name
[01:36] <jerthebear> it had the word 'services' in it though
[01:37] <jappdev> upp: what error does the package manager give you when you try to install the package, and exactly which package breaks?
[01:37] <Pirate_Hunter> +Q
[01:37] <amenado> jerthebear-> well we can guess all day, and get a wrong guess.. :)
[01:37] <jerthebear> it's the last one!!!
[01:37] <Saardox> I am looking for a command that gives me the current open connections
[01:38] <amenado> Saardox-> lsof -i
[01:38] <zcat[1]> nedge2k: boot saved, and use grub-set-default to change to windows for next boot.. have both entries change the defaule back to linux for next boot
[01:38] <Saardox> ty
[01:38] <upp> jappdev http://upp.pastebin.com/m14227247
[01:38] <zcat[1]> didn't explain that too well:)
[01:38] <upp> jappdev thanks for your help
[01:38] <jappdev> upp no problem, give me a minute to check out your paste and i'll get back to you
[01:39] <nedge2k> zcat[1]: hehe, got the gist but doesn't seem ideal
[01:39] <D3RGPS31> back, with my fresh install of ubuntu =D
[01:39] <upp> jappdev take your time just not forget me :)
[01:39] <amenado> nedge2k-> he meant the "default"  entry on grub can be set to whichever os you prefer.. man grub or google for in depth explanation
[01:39] <zcat[1]> nedge2k: what does the windows server do that couldn't be done by ubuntu?
[01:39] <D3RGPS31> look like windows <.<
[01:40] <timo1teo> how do i open up a text editor for xorg
[01:40] <jerthebear> can someone check what the last service on the "services" program is?
[01:40] <gligorhoria> fdck works?
[01:40] <amenado> D3RGPS31->  is that okay then?
[01:40] <nedge2k> well, it's more for experimenting with network admin plus i want it to run newsleecher
[01:40] <jerthebear> (system->adminstration->services), could someone check what the last option is?
[01:40] <FliesLikeABrick> nedge2k GRUB can do serial control, if you have another computer nearby that you can hook a serial cable up to
[01:40] <amenado> gligorhoria-> dont use fsck on a mounted filesystem..
[01:41] <timo1teo> how do i open up a text editor for my xorg
[01:41] <amenado> jerthebear-> mine says web server apache2
[01:41] <charles|64> anyone know of some kind of level control for amarok so i dont have to adjust the volume as the music get softer or louder?
[01:41] <Saardox> how do I close an open connection?
[01:41] <jerthebear> |:
[01:41] <jerthebear> that's not it :(
[01:41] <FliesLikeABrick> Saardox what program/protocol?
[01:41] <jappdev> upp: try running 'sudo apt-get install -f' to have apt attempt to fix any broken dependencies
[01:41] <jerthebear> I'm on windows right now
[01:41] <nedge2k> FliesLikeABrick: cheers but this is a home network - all other machines are laptops
[01:41] <jerthebear> I'll reboot into ubuntu and see if all is better
[01:41] <amenado> jerthebear-> it depends on what entries you have...
[01:42] <jappdev> upp: also, are you using a 32 or 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[01:42] <timo1teo> how do i open up a text edtior for xorg?
[01:42] <FliesLikeABrick> nedge2k aside from that, no, I don't think any bootloader has network support
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo gedit
[01:42] <upp> jappdev i have do it
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> timo1teo, or sudo nano
[01:42] <Saardox> FliesLikeABrick any open connection with a server.
[01:42] <upp> jappdev but i have always the same problem
[01:42] <Devourer> Can I use the terminal server client to remote desktop?
[01:42] <gligorhoria> amenado ty, i won't
[01:42] <upp> Devourer yes
[01:43] <Devourer> upp, do you recommend a better software to remote desktop with?
[01:43] <nedge2k> FliesLikeABrick: ok, cheers for replying :)
[01:43] <upp> Devourer Terminal Server Client
[01:44] <Devourer> upp, oh... :o
[01:44] <Traveler0> i need port 22 forwarded through my router in order for SSH to work remotely?  also, what is IP passthrough....and is port 80 necessary for remote desktop?
[01:44] <timo1teo> this isnt working lol....how do i add compositories extension?
[01:44] <timo1teo> my drivers for my gpu are installed
[01:44] <dmsuperman> how can i make wine windows not so ugly? it's dark grey on light grey with a hard to read font
[01:44] <amenado> Traveler0-> 1st describe your network layout.. what is connected to which device?
[01:45] <Starnestommy> Traveler0: ssh uses port 22, and remote desktop doesn't need port 80
[01:45] <Traveler0> ahh ok just a sec
[01:46] <Traveler0> two desktops , one windows, other ubuntu....main computer connected to 192.168.1.9...second 192.168.1.8....have IP passthrough allowed for the 1.8
[01:46] <Scunizi> Are there any programs in the repos that allow whiteboarding between a couple of machines?
[01:46] <Creationist> How do I change what application opens video files?  Right now they all open in Totem and I want VLC to handle them...
[01:46] <Traveler0> i want to connect to the 1.8 from work with SSH...and i want to connect to the 1.9 with windows remote desktop
[01:46] <gligorhoria> is there z special way to backup mysql or whar is the folder name?
[01:46] <Creationist> I know I can "Open with..." but I want the double-click to default to VLC
[01:46] <dmsuperman> gligorhoria: /var/lib/mysql
[01:46] <jappdev> upp: try 'sudo apt-get purge sun-java6-jre' then try to install it again
[01:46] <Dr_willis> Creationist,  right click on a video file, properties, you can set the file assoication in there some how.. HOWEVER.. ive had issues doing this befor. when theres spaces in the filename/path of the video. :(
[01:47] <dmsuperman> gligorhoria: just copy the folder somewhere else to back it up
[01:47] <jappdev> gligorhoria: mysqldump is the recommened way for protability though
[01:47] <gligorhoria> dmsuperman i only have 1 big hd
[01:47] <outtaherenow> does anyone know a good program to stream nzb files?
[01:47] <upp> jappdev the same prob
[01:47] <Netham45> I have a pcmcia network card that I want to use with Linux(Ubuntu) but the stickers peeled off of it so I have no idea what the model on it is, does anyone know how I can find out?
[01:47] <dmsuperman> gligorhoria: aye, what he said, but for the quickest way. if you only have a single hard drive, where do you plan on backing it up with a dump?
[01:48] <jappdev> upp: are you using a 64bit computer?
[01:48] <amenado> Traveler0-> okay, your dsl/router has to port forward  port 22 for ssh, i cant recall what port rdp uses..
[01:48] <gligorhoria> dmsuperman dvd
[01:48] <Scunizi> Netham45, plug it in and "lspci" in a terminal.. might work
[01:48] <Creationist> Dr_willis: Hmm... I did that and now it opens in VLC, but the video is scrambled now.  Audio is fine, but no video.
[01:48] <timo1teo> how do i open up my xorg.conf file so i can edit compositories?
[01:48] <Traveler0> is IP passthrough necessary if I have a HUB connected to the router?
[01:48] <Scunizi> timo1teo, compositories?
[01:49] <Dr_willis> Creationist,  no idea. :) i just normally drag/drop videos to whatever player i want.
[01:49] <Creationist> Dr_willis: Same video problem when loading in Totem now too... apparently it just corrupted the entire file?
[01:49] <dmsuperman> gligorhoria: you're reinstalling?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> timo1teo, I gave you that answer awhile back as far as the editor.. I have no idea what compoistories are?
[01:49] <amenado> Traveler0-> incomplete info you provided earlier? what other devices are there?  can you draw a full picture of the layout?
[01:49] <gligorhoria> ty guys i won't stress u any more, i'll google it
[01:49] <mzuverink> I cannot seem to find where my palm is mounted to, it is not at /dev/pilot, anyone have any clues?
[01:49] <timo1teo> composites
[01:49] <timo1teo> LOL
[01:49] <thunc> Jack_Sparrow: The problem here is. squid doesn't answer the call at times. requests on port 80 time out at times
[01:49] <dmsuperman> gligorhoria: are you reinstalling?
[01:49] <gligorhoria> dmsuperman no just backing up
[01:49] <gligorhoria> dmsuperman my system is crashing often
[01:49] <upp> jappdev no i386
[01:49] <Dr_willis> Creationist,  I doiubt if the video players altered the file at all.
[01:49] <Scunizi> timo1teo, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:50] <timo1teo> thank you
[01:50] <dmsuperman> gligorhoria: ah. either way works, i prefer just copying the folder because then i don't have to run any commands or do anything to restore it, other than paste it back
[01:50] <Creationist> Dr_willis: Well it played perfectly JUST before I did what you suggested... so something much have changed.
[01:50] <Sam827> wat fs should I use?
[01:50] <Traveler0> i apologize....ok DSL bellsouth to router, router connected to 4 port HUB, 2 computers hooked to HUB, both set to DHCP.....IP passthrough (is this necessary?)
[01:50] <dmsuperman> gligorhoria: but you can run a dump as well. if you have anything like mysql administrator or phpmyadmin, most of those types of tools also have their own "export to sql statements" sort of options
[01:51] <Creationist> Dr_willis: Hmm.... ALL my video files do that now.
[01:51] <Starnestommy> Sam827: ext3 is the most used one
[01:51] <Dr_willis> Creationist,  i recall some issues with nvidia cards and video playback ages ago.
[01:51] <jappdev> upp: i'm guessing you've done an 'apt-get update' recently, have you tried manually installing the packages it says it needs ('java-common','sun-java6-bin')?
[01:51] <Creationist> Dr_willis: Ages ago, though lol
[01:51] <Sam827> Starnestommy: wat benefits does it have
[01:51] <Creationist> Dr_willis: And I haven't had any trouble until just now.
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Dr_willis, ati will give jerky video if composite is enabled in the xorg
[01:52] <Dr_willis> Creationist,  sounds about like your problem.  the issue was with Gutsy. and gutsy is now 6+ mo old. :)
[01:52] <Starnestommy> Sam827: it has journaling
[01:52] <mzuverink> where does gutsy mount palms?
[01:52] <Dr_willis> Creationist,  reboot, see if they work..if they suddently stop working.. well.. you have a nvidia card>?
[01:52] <yowshi> anyone here managed to get the most recent version of lincity-ng to install on a amd64?
[01:52] <dmsuperman> who knows how i can skin wine to be readable?
[01:52] <Creationist> Dr_willis: Yeah, I have nVidia.
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> dmsuperman, try #Winehq
[01:52] <dmsuperman> Jack_Sparrow: thanks :d
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:53] <amenado> Traveler0-> from an external point of view, you only have one machine at home, therefore your dsl/router has to forward the request to specific ip address and port inside your home. -- externally its harder for another host to distinguish between your two hosts
[01:53] <upp> jappdev no
[01:53] <Sam827> Starnestommy: sry for my stupidity, I've had that on my Mac forever, what is that?
[01:53] <thecre80r> DCC SEND "aaaaaaaaaaaaaa" 0 0 0
[01:53] <Dr_willis> Creationist,  sounds identical to the issue i had on a few of my gutsy machines.
[01:53] <Sam827> Starnestommy: journalling
[01:54] <Creationist> Dr_willis: Well, the problem is that the video itself is just solid, colored lines... no movement at all.  But the audio plays fine ...
[01:54] <Starnestommy> Sam827: it's a mechanism used in some file systems that logs changes made to a file system before changes are committed.
[01:54] <Creationist> Dr_willis: I do remember having this issue in the past, but I thought it was in Feisty.... either way, I haven't had the problem since installing Gutsy, I don't think.
[01:54] <Sam827> starnestommy: cool
[01:55] <Sam827> Starnestommy: ty
[01:55] <ianliu_88> What I do when my desktop freeze?? I am trying to run SketchUp, and it freezes my Ubuntu menu bars..
[01:55] <Traveler0> amenado: so than i will have to get the WAN address (public) before i leave for work and than connect to that? but how will thesystem know which computer is RDP and which is SSH?
[01:55] <amenado> Traveler0-> what I suggest is use your ubuntu as a router, daisy chained from your dsl/router. ie  dsl/router --> ubuntu(router) --> hub -- then as many client as you can have
[01:56] <Davey> for some reason, as the same user, over sshfs and in vim in a terminal over ssh I can edit a file with vim, but not via sshfs - any ideas? :/
[01:56] <Traveler0> HMMZ
[01:56] <amenado> Traveler0-> then you configure your ubuntu(as router) to forward request to windows or another client (can be windows or another ubuntu)
[01:57] <Traveler0> will the way that it is setup right now work?
[01:57] <gligorhoria_> sorry my connection got intterupted
[01:58] <amenado> Traveler0 per my suggestion, your ubuntu(router) will get your external ip address, you can ssh from work directly to your ubuntu(router) and if needed to get to windows, you configure your ubuntu to forward request to windows
[01:59] <amenado> Traveler0-> here is a picture http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/sshtips.htm
[01:59] <wtfnonickname> Hi, my sound is unsyncronised from video in flash and lags behind. Can anyone help?
[01:59] <daning> #xwiki
[02:00] <lewench> !samba
[02:00] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[02:00] <pc-illiterate> can someone walk me through mounting a cd in terminal ?
[02:01] <upp> why i can't install some package
[02:01] <rootlinuxusr> repositories.
[02:01] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, sudo mount /dev/cdrom0 /media/cdrom0  .. but I think somethings missing there.. try anyway'
[02:01] <amenado> pc-illiterate-> is your computer on? is the cd as cdrom disk? or cdrom device?
[02:01] <jappdev> pc-illiterate: you should be able to use the command mount /media/cdrom
[02:02] <pc-illiterate> hmmm
[02:02] <StevenX> guys, what do you think of the Banshee music player?
[02:02] <pc-illiterate> well ok. i'll try it
[02:02] <StevenX> how good does it interact with the ipod?
[02:03] <myself234> Bump! Can somebody help me with my DRI problem? my xorg.conf: http://rafb.net/p/bjPXnX51.html and Xorg.0.log:http://rafb.net/p/41d8bp41.html
[02:03] <Haden> Has anybody's flash player (nonfree) broken in firefox with the most recent update?  I get the thing to install additional plugins, but tis already installed :\
[02:04] <damaltor_> hello everybody, i still am using feisty on myy small notebook (600 mhz, 128mb ram) and i am considering a dist-upgrade. i want to know: - how risky is it? - what can go wrong? - can i fix it then? :) - should i upgrade at all, since everything is working atm?
[02:04] <pc-illiterate> well the installer tells me to mount the cd still
[02:04] <Dr_willis> damaltor_,  do you need the newer programs/features? If its all working..  why bother.
[02:05] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, what installer?
[02:05] <MoLE_> Haden, you may need to sudo aptitude clean to clear out your package cache before sudo aptitude reinstall flashplayer-nonfree
[02:05] <damaltor_> Dr_willis: well, i am hoping to get some new programs, but there is no direct reason. maybe some more updates?
[02:05] <Haden> MoLE_: I'll give that a try; thanks
[02:06] <Dr_willis> damaltor_,  guess ya could try. :) it all depends on whatyou do with the machine i guess
[02:06] <pc-illiterate> im trying to install tactical ops
[02:06] <StevenX> can someone help me set up amarok to read my ipod?
[02:06] <damaltor_> Dr_willis: well, a complete data loss would be bad. but what are the advatages of a dist-up?
[02:07] <damaltor_> StevenX: dont use amarok. try gtkpod, works VERY fine
[02:07] <Dr_willis> damaltor_,  i would strongly advice a full backup in any case. :) even if you dont upgrade
[02:07] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, and is that on a cd or are you trying to use the repositories or another way?
[02:07] <Dr_willis> damaltor_,  newer packages, newer feattures, for the most part.
[02:07] <StevenX> damaltor_, k. thanks
[02:07] <pc-illiterate> on a cd...i copied the cd even. straight from original
[02:07] <Haden> MoLE_: you're the man
[02:08]  * Pelo is a little happier with hardy now , wine is back to working properly and he got adblockplus back up in FF3 
[02:08] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, is this a windows program.
[02:08] <damaltor_> Dr_willis: well, backups are useful in any way :) but if everything works, there is no real reason for an update, is that right? im not really missing anything, just courious
[02:08] <tifine> how to create user account on ubuntu using command ?
[02:08] <Dr_willis> damaltor_,  proberly not. if its been doing what you need.
[02:08] <Dr_willis> tifine,  sudo adduser
[02:08] <pc-illiterate> yes and i have the installer also
[02:09] <damaltor> Dr_willis: it does. thanks :)
[02:09] <LadyNikon> I am trying to get my adesklet bar to house the lowered application
[02:09] <LadyNikon> any ideas?
[02:09] <zeno_> -how do i copy text from a plain bash shell
[02:09] <LadyNikon> zeno_: ctrl c?
[02:09] <eduardo> zero, right click - copy
[02:09] <Dr_willis> zeno_,  select, middle click. is one way
[02:10] <gligorhoria_> hey is there a problem with the usb sticks in linux
[02:10] <LadyNikon> Dr_willis: i thought that was paste
[02:10] <eduardo> zeno, select and right click, then copy
[02:10] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, with the cd in the drive can you go to a terminal and type "cd /media/cdrom0" and then "ls" all without the " 's.
[02:10] <Dr_willis> when its selected its 'copied' :) i guess ya can say
[02:10] <eduardo> gligorhoria, no are you having any issues?
[02:10] <stacey_> Asking for a little help, new to linux.  Trying to install vnc to use for multiple non-initiated sessions. I understand that there is a remote desktop, but that works only if there is a local login.  I would like the use the vnc password that is associated with each account
[02:10] <gligorhoria_> the system seems to crach whenever i remove my usb stick...
[02:10] <LadyNikon> Dr_willis: ah
[02:10] <gligorhoria_> the system seems to crach whenever i remove my usb stick...
[02:10] <pc-illiterate> ok...hang on
[02:10] <damaltor> gligorhoria_: did you eject it before?
[02:10] <eduardo> gligorhoria, try to unmount it first
[02:10] <Dr_willis> gligorhoria_,  unmount it first.
[02:11] <gligorhoria_> ty guys but it doesn-t matter
[02:11] <longmanzz> hi guys
[02:11] <zeno_> Dr_willis, need to copy to another app
[02:11] <Dr_willis> check dmesg output.
[02:11] <longmanzz> any body here?/
[02:11] <gligorhoria_> whenever i restart my system without the usb flash it gives me buffer I/O errors
[02:11] <Dr_willis> zeno_,  with most X apps you can select/middle click to paste.
[02:11] <eduardo> question: Idk if this is a bug or something, but my system is randomly closing session, any idea why is this happening?
[02:11] <zeno_> right click doenst bring up a menu
[02:11] <longmanzz> i m trying to monitor my IRC traffic, can only one tell me the keywords that i can use to fetch the traffic???
[02:12] <jappdev> eduardo: have you checked your log files under /var/log?
[02:12] <gligorhoria_> whenever i restart my system without the usb flash it gives me buffer I/O errors (PS: i tried unmounting severel times)
[02:12] <littlepinkdot> Ive been looking for a while but cant seem to find this info but how can I resize a picture if its ONLY above a certain width?
[02:12] <zeno_> Dr_willis, it pastes the text right back into the shell
[02:12] <Dr_willis> gligorhoria_,  hmm.. i would go over the /etc/fstab file and be sure you dont have something mounting the wrong devices
[02:12] <eduardo> jappdev, what should i look for?
[02:12] <damaltor> zeno_: just mark the text with the mouse. open the other app, and press middle mouse key/mouse wheel/both mouse keys at same time. thats all
[02:12] <Dr_willis> zeno_,  middle click IN THE APP you want to PASTE into
[02:12] <Dr_willis> zeno_,  :)
[02:12] <pc-illiterate> scuniz..yes i can
[02:13] <jappdev> use 'tail  Xorg.0.log' to look at the last 10 lines of your xorg log file, see if it shows any errors
[02:13] <cheese> Hey, sorry to bother you guys since you seem very busy (as always :P) but my Firefox windows occasionally just close completely and when I restore them it acts as if I restarted my laptop. Also, my laptop randomly disconnects from the wireless network whilst none of the other laptops in the house do.
[02:13] <cheese> Any solutions here?
[02:13] <gligorhoria_> Dr_willis: ok i will do that and see...
[02:13] <Dr_willis> zeno_,  you are seeing that it works. at least heh.  with gnome-terminal and konsole, you can select, use copy in themenus, then paste in the other apps menus also. if they are there.
[02:13] <longmanzz> i m trying to monitor my IRC traffic, can only one tell me the keywords that i can use to fetch the traffic???
[02:13] <upp> why i can't install some packages
[02:13] <gligorhoria_> Dr_willis: could the swap be on the flash, by mistake?
[02:13] <eduardo> jappdev?
[02:14] <Dr_willis> gligorhoria_,  possible.
[02:14] <eduardo> question: Idk if this is a bug or something, but my system is randomly closing session, any idea why is this happening?
[02:14] <dmsuperman> what's a free way to vm windows?
[02:14] <Dr_willis> gligorhoria_,  somthing sounds very weird going on  the way you describe it.
[02:14] <zeno_> Dr_willis, the middle click thing worked thanks
[02:14] <gligorhoria_> Dr_willis: :D ok i will output it for u
[02:14] <Dr_willis> zeno_,  old-skool Unix/X stuff :)
[02:15] <gligorhoria_> Dr_willis: http://codepad.org/QFUSLvwz
[02:15] <cheese> Hey, sorry to bother you guys since you seem very busy (as always :P) but my Firefox windows occasionally just close completely and when I restore them it acts as if I restarted my laptop. Also, my laptop randomly disconnects from the wireless network whilst none of the other laptops in the house do
[02:15] <pc-illiterate> scunizi..please tell me youre still here
[02:15] <cheese> blargh, sorry to paste that, accident
[02:15] <uppp> no one will anwser me?
[02:16] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, yes.. sometimes I'm in another program you have to mention my nick for the "bell" to go off.
[02:16] <travis_> #ubuntu
[02:16] <Dr_willis> gligorhoria_,  what device is your usb stick normally? I see no mention of it in the fstab.  so that dont look like the issue.
[02:16] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, so you can get to the cd ok.. i read.. is it the ut2004 cd?
[02:17] <zeno_> ya fluxbox sure seems oldcshool =p im tryign to install e17
[02:17] <pc-illiterate> lol. i spelled it wrong the first time
[02:17] <zeno_> the one in apt is e16 riight
[02:17] <pc-illiterate> no...
[02:17] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, use tab to complete nicks.. it easier.
[02:17] <pc-illiterate> was mod for UT then went retail
[02:17] <eduardo> fluxbox is smooth heh
[02:17] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, mod is still out there .. well.. I'
[02:17] <pc-illiterate> no
[02:17] <dmsuperman> Scunizi, testing
[02:17] <dmsuperman> EPIC
[02:18] <cheese> One last time:
[02:18] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, hit enter to soon.
[02:18] <cheese> Hey, sorry to bother you guys since you seem very busy (as always :P) but my Firefox windows occasionally just close completely and when I restore them it acts as if I restarted my laptop. Also, my laptop randomly disconnects from the wireless network whilst none of the other laptops in the house do
[02:18] <dmsuperman> Scunizi, is that xchat only?
[02:18] <pc-illiterate> mod went retail in like 2000
[02:18] <Scunizi> dmsuperman, pong
[02:18] <uppp> i need helppppppppppppp
[02:18] <eduardo> Scunizi: hey i didnt know about the tab trick..
[02:18] <cheese> Can anybody help with this?
[02:18] <gligorhoria_> Dr_willis: i think it is fd0
[02:18] <zeno_> whats aclocal?
[02:18] <Scunizi> dmsuperman, eduardo works in lots of things.
[02:18] <dmsuperman> :D
[02:18] <eduardo> Scunizi: heh
[02:18] <dmsuperman> anybody know a good way to vm windows?
[02:18] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, does the program come with a native linux installer?
[02:18] <pc-illiterate> i have the cd...i start the installer and it tells me to mount the cd
[02:18] <eduardo> dmsuperman: have u tried wine?
[02:18] <jerthebear> I use ubuntu 7.10, I think i changed the dbus option in services and now HAL will not start, so my network won't start, and I can't modify my services because it says "You do not have permission to open this" but sudo/su will not fix this.
[02:18] <gligorhoria_> Dr_willis: w8 let me see something brb
[02:19] <pc-illiterate> no...
[02:19] <dmsuperman> i don't want to emulate it, because i get tons of problems
[02:19] <pc-illiterate> i did get an installer though
[02:19] <dmsuperman> i want to vm it
[02:19] <b4l74z4r> does gthumb have a configuration file i can edit so i can zoom images with the mouse wheel?
[02:19] <damaltor> on my motherboard, there is an i2c-connector. can someone tell me how to use it? i know that i2c is/does/can, and i have lots of i2c client ICs here, and i do know how to cennect them to the bus. but how can i send data via that i2c-connector?
[02:19] <gligorhoria_> Dr_willis: i have no floppy disk if that helps. it-s unpluged, i checked!
[02:19] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, then it's a windows install only cd.. oops.. you could probably find a cheap copy of ut2004 and use the patch..
[02:19] <jerthebear> someone help?
[02:19] <hackeron> is anyone able to get MusicOnHold working with the asterisk on ubuntu gutsy? (installed by apt)
[02:19] <gligorhoria_> Dr_willis: i think that is the problem brb
[02:20] <eduardo> jerthebear: whats going on?
[02:20] <jerthebear> I use ubuntu 7.10, I think i changed the dbus option in services and now HAL will not start, so my network won't start, and I can't modify my services because it says "You do not have permission to open this" but sudo/su will not fix this.
[02:20] <Dr_willis> gligorhoria_,  possibally. remove that line in the fstab file.
[02:20] <Dr_willis> gligorhoria_,  but i doubt if thats the issue.
[02:20] <pc-illiterate> no...original Ut. and i have the installer for this. i cant get it to recognize the cd is mounted
[02:20] <eduardo> jerthebear: uhmm, though
[02:20] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, I've got an installed copy of ut04 .. didn't know this game existed.. It'll make my son jealous
[02:20] <gligorhoria_> Dr_willis: i read something aboute that, brb i will feed u back
[02:20] <eduardo> though*
[02:21] <jerthebear> eduardo: do you know how I could fix it?
[02:21] <eduardo> jerthebear: have you tried modifying it starting up on console?
[02:21] <pc-illiterate> jealous ? of ?
[02:21] <jerthebear> no I do not know how I could do that
[02:21] <damaltor> on my motherboard, there is an I2C(IIC, I²C)-connector. can someone tell me how to use it? i know what i2c is/does/can, and i have lots of i2c client ICs here, and i do know how to cennect them to the bus. but how can i send data via that i2c-connector?
[02:21] <eduardo> jerthebear: start up in recovery mode
[02:21] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, haveing a cool looking game like this..
[02:22] <jerthebear> oh I can log in
[02:22] <jerthebear> eduardo: I can log in and use terminal
[02:22] <pc-illiterate> like ? you lost me Scunizi
[02:22] <slimjimflim> anybody know how to effectively disable roxen
[02:22] <slimjimflim> ?
[02:22] <eduardo> jerthebear: yes
[02:22] <slimjimflim> w/o rebooting
[02:22] <pc-illiterate> you mean like TO ?
[02:22] <eduardo> jerthebear: try using recovery mode and start up on a terminal
[02:23] <gligorhoria_> Dr_willis: i got it, as you said i have to put # in front of fd0 in fstab for it to work, it's a known issue on systems with no floppy :)) yey!
[02:23] <jerthebear> eduardo: ok, what commands should I type?
[02:23] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, I have ut2004 installed on my linux box and can load the patch to make Tactical Ops work.. He likes these kinds of games.
[02:23] <Pelo> slimjimflim, sudo /.../roxen stop ?
[02:23] <eduardo> jerthebear: what commands have you tried?
[02:23] <Dr_willis> gligorhoria_,  I have no systems with floppies..i got noidea how that entry even got in the fstab. :)
[02:23] <slimjimflim> pelo, i tried that
[02:23] <slimjimflim> it's still there
[02:23] <jerthebear> eduardo: none... I have no idea what to do
[02:23] <Dr_willis> gligorhoria_,  however i DO have the floppy controller disabled in the bios. that might be why i dont have the issue
[02:24] <slimjimflim> pelo only visible when i view w/ lynx though
[02:24] <Pelo> Dr_willis, it's just part of the default
[02:24] <pc-illiterate> i wouldnt be too sure Scunizi, it was a UT mod in 2000. the new 1 is tactical ops : crossfire
[02:24] <Pelo> slimjimflim,  sudo killall -9 roxen
[02:24] <gligorhoria_> Dr_willis: :(( give me hope
[02:24] <eduardo> jerthebear: what was the problem again?
[02:24] <jerthebear> eduardo: I've tried doing the services in a terminal in the GNOME gui with suido or su
[02:24] <slimjimflim> pelo no processes killed
[02:24] <jerthebear> eduardo: Can't change my startup services and network will not run
[02:24] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, check out http://www.to-crossfire.net/team-blog/client-downloads.html
[02:24] <Pelo> slimjimflim, menu > system > admin > system monitor,  find it , terminalte it
[02:24] <jerthebear> eduardo: before changing my services I could do both
[02:25] <pc-illiterate> crossfire is the new birth...i run a system too old to run 2k4
[02:25] <gligorhoria_> Dr_willis: i'll do a restart now, if i'm not back in 3 minutes call the fun police!
[02:25] <damaltor> in my computer, there is a chip card reader (not memory card, i mean chip cards like the ones for public phones etc.). it is connected to the mainboard at a connector named "card". doesnt seem to be serial port, cause there is only one serial port wich is the one on the back of the housing. anybody been in touch with chip cards? i dunno how to use that thing...
[02:25] <pc-illiterate> i have 2k3 and got 5 frames per second
[02:25] <eduardo> jerthebear: lemme check someting...
[02:26] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, must be an old sys. but mine is at least 2-3 years.. P4 2.3 socket 478 w/2gig
[02:26] <Pelo> damaltor, got a model number ? try loolink it up in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:26] <slimjimflim> pelo not there either
[02:26] <Pelo> slimjimflim, look in the display menu ,  show all,
[02:26] <pc-illiterate> lmao....1ghz celeron, 256 meg ram, mx440 gfx card
[02:27] <slimjimflim> pelo, i'm on xubuntu, different options i think
[02:27] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, yep.. sounds like an emachine.. I use one of those for a server
[02:27] <damaltor> Pelo: no, got nothing... just a small pcb with loads of ICs on it. no numer, no nothing.... :/ i tried the program smartcard (think that was the name) but it can only handle serial ports
[02:27] <Pelo> slimjimflim, also in edit pref,  you can check a box to view the command line for each process, just in case the process is not the same name as the command
[02:27] <Pelo> slimjimflim, now you tellme
[02:27] <slimjimflim> oh wait, got it
[02:27] <slimjimflim> gutsy
[02:27] <pc-illiterate> you know its an emachine already ? didnt anyone else make crap ?
[02:27] <badazz3s> hp
[02:27] <badazz3s> gatejerthebear: way
[02:27] <badazz3s> gatway
[02:27] <Pelo> damaltor, try looking in the hardware info thingy, see if you can identify the device from that , in the pref menu
[02:28] <pc-illiterate> well the next 1 im builing. be uber 1337
[02:28] <badazz3s> Im on a dell laptop =D
[02:28] <damaltor> Pelo: console-only system. lspci doesnt find it...
[02:28] <gligorhoria> Dr_willis: it works like a charm ty! :D
[02:28] <pc-illiterate> this thing is only 8 yrs old. works great though
[02:28] <pan993> http://ninja-net.blogspot.com/
[02:28] <gidean> is there a way to access the GST gui from the command line? Or Alt+f2?
[02:28] <pan993> -_-
[02:28] <pan993> inspiring stuff
[02:28] <gidean> please..
[02:28] <Pelo> damaltor, lsdev
[02:28] <slimjimflim> pelo, nope, still not there
[02:28] <Dr_willis> gligorhoria,  you might want to check the bios and disable the floppy controller.
[02:29] <Pelo> slimjimflim, you win, I give up
[02:29] <Dr_willis> gligorhoria,  i do think i see some mentionof floppy when i boot. :) about it being disabled
[02:29] <eduardo> jerthebear: ok, type sudo apt-get install ngrep
[02:29]  * Pelo hangs his head in shame, beaten by a noob 
[02:29] <slimjimflim> no i lose
[02:29] <pc-illiterate> so i need to find someone playing the game on linux or mount with wine ?
[02:29] <slimjimflim> loose
[02:29] <pc-illiterate> lose is correct
[02:29]  * slimjimflim spells
[02:29] <jerthebear> eduardo: I'm on the computer right now in windows
[02:29] <damaltor> Pelo: http://nopaste.com/p/aNNpYkndM
[02:30] <eduardo> jerthebear: ah ok
[02:30] <slimjimflim> arghhhhhhghghghghgh
[02:30] <jerthebear> eduardo: I dual-boot, so I'd appreciate if you could give me all the instructions at once :D
[02:30] <Pelo> damaltor, and you actualy expect me to make sense of that ?
[02:30] <StevenX> guys, how do i change the icon of an application?
[02:30] <pc-illiterate> ok. guess i'll go to the forums for the game and make a post
[02:30] <gligorhoria> Dr_willis: aha, well i have the flopy in my pc, it's just unplugged for saftey reasons ( :D ) if i will make the call to desable it defenetly i will keep your advice in mind, but i have 1 more question now, but it will take time to formulate it
[02:30] <dmsuperman> other than vim, what's a good notepad++ alternative?
[02:31] <Scunizi> pc-illiterate, won't work in wine..
[02:31] <eduardo> ok, try sudo apt-get install ngrep, and then type ngrep -d any 'error' port syslog
[02:31] <Pelo> damaltor, I don,t have this in mine if hat can give you a possibility piix4_smbus
[02:31] <eduardo> jerthebear: this way we should get the errors and see whats going on
[02:31] <Evil_Ed> hi
[02:31] <damaltor> Pelo: well, i hoped you cold find anything a bit useful.. i dint find anything wich could be something with cards
[02:32] <damaltor> Pelo: will try. thanks so far
[02:32] <Pelo> damaltor, is it a card ? I thought you said it was built in the mobo ?
[02:32] <damaltor> Pelo: it is connected directly to the mobo, next to the connector there is the word "CARD"
[02:33] <jerthebear> eduardo: ok but that'll take some time again
[02:33] <jerthebear> eduardo: I am going to install x-chat on my other computer so I can talk while working on fixing it ok?
[02:33] <Pelo> damaltor, probably just short for card reader ,  damaltor  do you have the mobo model ? look it up on the net,  see what the maker has to say about it
[02:33] <eduardo> jerthebear: try that and then paste the error log here, and if im gone then someone else should be able to help
[02:33] <gligorhoria> bash: ./setup.php: /usr/bin/php: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[02:33] <gligorhoria>  (i'm trying to install horde mail server - what do i need to install for this php to work? if u can tell me)
[02:34] <Pelo> damaltor, even the biios might have some info about it
[02:34] <damaltor> Pelo: just a sec, i even have a system handbook...
[02:34] <jerthebear> eduardo: ok, thank you
[02:34] <dmsuperman> Pelo: I got it to work, btw
[02:34] <eduardo> jerthebear: no problem
[02:34] <dmsuperman> Pelo: the problem was it was a virtual desktop, no clue why it was defined, and it was larger than the monitor rez
[02:35] <gew1> can i view a jpg in cli ?
[02:35] <Pelo> dmsuperman, I never doubted you would
[02:35] <dmsuperman> Pelo: thanks for your help :D
[02:35] <dmsuperman> gewl: you're kidding, right?
[02:35] <pc-illiterate> well Scunizi .... im gunna try to find an answer. see what i ccan find
[02:35] <Pelo> dmsuperman, np
[02:35] <jerthebear2> eduardo: ok i'm on the other computer
[02:35] <Dr_willis> gew1,  there are framebuffer image viewing apps for the console. if thats what you are asking about
[02:35] <Pelo> gew1, probably not
[02:35] <dmsuperman> gewl: i spose if you use one of those image -> ascii converters you could...but why?
[02:35] <gew1> dmsuperman: i was kinda serious , but now i am gona say yes its a joke
[02:36] <gew1> Dr_willis: yes framebuffer
[02:36] <Dr_willis> gew1,  the console framebuffer makes it possible.
[02:36] <Dr_willis> but  the whole framebuffer stuff can be.. flakey :)
[02:36] <gew1> so apt-get install framebuffer should do it
[02:36] <damaltor> Pelo: its a D1025 made by fujitsu/siemens
[02:36] <Orendafds> hey everyone
[02:36] <Dr_willis> there are a few framebuffer browsers that can do it also
[02:36] <frank_b> do I need to open a port in firestarter (inbound policy, like for amule and nicotine) to upload a file to someone in here?
[02:36]  * Pelo thinks some ppl just over do it with the CLI stuff , gui isn't that bad 
[02:36] <Dr_willis> gew1,  No... the framebuffer is a feature of the kernel.. not a program.
[02:36] <Pelo> damaltor, the mobo or the card reader ?
[02:36] <gew1> how do i do it then
[02:36] <Dr_willis> gew1,  there are image viewer programs that can USE the framebuffer to display images
[02:37] <Dr_willis> gew1,  fire up the package manager and search for framebuffer - i guess for  a start
[02:37] <Orendafds> guys, can anyone help me come up with a reason for a very wierd problem im having.. ?
[02:37] <damaltor> Pelo: the mobo. but in the system handbook, there is only said that a card reaer can be connected here... useless.
[02:37] <gew1> thank u Dr_willis
[02:37] <cheese> Hey, sorry to bother you guys since you seem very busy (as always :P) but my Firefox windows occasionally just close completely and when I restore them it acts as if I restarted my laptop. Also, my laptop randomly disconnects from the wireless network whilst none of the other laptops in the house do
[02:38] <Pelo> damaltor, try google for the model,  see if there are specifications for what models of card readers aer supported
[02:38] <dmsuperman> how can i make a window sticky in all workspaces?
[02:38] <Pelo> cheese, gutsy or hardy ?
[02:38] <cheese> Gutsy.
[02:39] <Pelo> dmsuperman, right click the buttoo for that window in the botom panel,  select always current desktop or something similar , it will followyou arond
[02:39] <dmsuperman> hurray!
[02:39] <Pelo> cheese, random shut down of Firefox are often flash related
[02:40] <Pelo> dmsuperman, it's not permanent, you'll have to redo it if you restart the app
[02:40] <cheese> Yeah. I tend to find it happens in Flash
[02:40] <cheese> What can I do to fix it
[02:40] <cheese> ?
[02:40] <damaltor> Pelo: did so, about a month for now... but it seems to be a not very often used model.
[02:40] <Orendafds> how come whenever i reset(normal restart) ubuntu stops recognizing my network card and only a complete shutdown(unpluging power) helps, no matter how many restarts i do it wont recognise it only a complete shutdown...any ideas ??
[02:41] <jerthebear2> hmm could some one help me? I use ubuntu gutsy (7.10) turned dbus off and now I can't access the internet from ubuntu or edit the services (which inludes the dbus setting), and it says I have no permission even if I do it in root. Upon startup, it says that HAL failed to initialize.
[02:41] <frank_b> to all: do I need to open a port in firestarter (inbound policy, like for amule and nicotine) to upload a file to someone in here?
[02:41] <Pelo> cheese, I like to use "stop autoplay"  , that way the flash app doesn 'T just start unless I ask it to , give the rest of the page time to load
[02:41] <stwange_> can anyone point me to a guide for setting up a 7.10 installation as a torrent server (so I can have two folders of torrents current/ and pending/ and anything in current is automatically downloaded). I've seen guides but I can't remember where and I can't find the right search string for google
[02:41] <cheese> Okay, thanks man
[02:42] <jerthebear2> someone help?
[02:42] <LadyNikon> I am trying to get a launcher to act like osx's toolbar.  I want to be able to open up already launched apps
[02:42] <LadyNikon> jerthebear2: please be patient.  If someone can help you they will.. if not try the forums
[02:42] <Pelo> stwange_, what torrent client ?
[02:42] <LadyNikon> the launcher is one of the bars for gdesklets
[02:42] <jerthebear2> ladynikon: ok
[02:42] <cheese> Pelo, where are the flash settings?
[02:42] <stwange_> Pelo, deluge
[02:43] <Pelo> cheese, stop autoplay is an extension you dl form the firefox site
[02:43] <jerthebear2> ladynikon: on average how long should I wait before I should resay my question?
[02:43] <Pelo> stwange_, try asking in #deluge
[02:43] <cheese> Ah, I see. Sorry about that. Thanks. :P
[02:43] <LadyNikon> jerthebear2: 10.. 15mins
[02:43] <Orendafds> how come whenever i reset(normal restart) ubuntu stops recognizing my network card and only a complete shutdown(unpluging power) helps, no matter how many restarts i do it wont recognise it only a complete shutdown...any ideas ??
[02:43] <stwange_> Pelo, I think I found a guide, it uses TorrentFlux though - I can link you if interested?
[02:43] <Pelo> cheese, get adblock plus while you are at it , you'll thank me
[02:44] <amenado> Orendafds-> your nic card is not recognized the next time you do a reboot?
[02:44] <Pelo> stwange_, no i'm cool , I use utorrent and I don'T have a butload of torrents at a time
[02:44]  * Pelo use to op in #utorrent 
[02:45] <stwange_> Pelo, it's not really a case of having a lot to download, it's more of usually being at a different computer when I remember what I was meant to get. Thanks anyway mate :)
[02:45] <thunc> stwange_: yes thanks for your praise.  i will gladly impregnate your sister for a small fee. oops
[02:45] <Boohbah> lol
[02:45] <stwange_> I think I'll pass thunc, I'm broke :)
[02:45] <Pelo> stwange_, I beleive deluge has a webui , so you can dl and start torrents remotely from another comp
[02:46] <stwange_> ah that would work too. Thanks :)
[02:46] <stwange_> ok, enough smiling.
[02:46] <Dr_willis> :(
[02:46] <dmsuperman> what's a good notepad++/notepad2 alternative for ubuntu, beside vim?
[02:46] <stwange_> dmsuperman, try bluefish
[02:46] <Orendafds> guys, why whenever i play minigames such as flash,shockwave it is EXTREAMLY slow and unplayable ???
[02:46] <eduardo> Question: Whats the best Mp3 downloader for ubuntu?
[02:46] <Pelo> Dr_willis, why the sad face ?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> !best | eduardo
[02:46] <ubotu> eduardo: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[02:47] <levander`> Is there a package in the repositories for Real Network's Real Player?
[02:47] <Pelo> eduardo, just get frostwire
[02:47] <dmsuperman> eduardo: wget
[02:47] <Dr_willis> thers always room for smilies! :^)
[02:47] <bazhang> eduardo: what is an mp3 downloader? that sounds odd
[02:47] <geonerd> irc.newnet.net
[02:47] <Pelo> levander`, no you get it from the realplayer website , it's a .bin
[02:47] <eduardo> pelo, frostwire, hmm i use limewire which is the same
[02:47] <stwange_> eduardo, how's the leg?
[02:47] <stwange_> you can use limewire for ubuntu
[02:47] <levander> Pelo: Have you tried it?  Does it work as good for capturing streams as the Windows version does?
[02:47] <Pelo> eduardo, no , frostwire doesn'T come with spyware
[02:47] <eduardo> stwange_: yes
[02:48] <bazhang> eduardo: you mean something like amarok?
[02:48] <jerthebear2> eduardo: because of my network not working, I can't apt-get
[02:48] <eduardo> Pelo: spyware for linux?
[02:48] <eduardo> jerthebear2: ohh good point
[02:48] <On7H3MooN> gah my friend is an idiot... he posted this in the forums and got banned... http://shoopedup.myminicity.com/
[02:48] <Pelo> levander, realplayer is a deasese,  I only have it cause occasionnaly I can'T do without
[02:48] <jerthebear2> eduardo: XD though I think it has to do with the HAL daemon
[02:48] <ropoy> hello everyone
[02:49] <eduardo> jerthebear2: have you tried to uninstall it and then reinstall?
[02:49] <levander> Pelo: Yeah, I probably won't bother.  You know of a better program to capture streaming flash videos?
[02:49] <dmsuperman> On7H3MooN: whatever you just posted is probably malware or bad, or just plain dumb, hence his banning, and if it turns out i'm right you'll probably get +b soon enough
[02:49] <bazhang> On7H3MooN: this is the wrong place to post as well unless it is accompanied by a support question
[02:49] <Dr_willis> the RealPlayer company.. soo... dropped the ball :) they could of been huge.. now they are just has beens it seems. heh
[02:49] <ncfi1013_> can anybody tell me what the problem might be when nero or k3b won't work right
[02:49] <eduardo> bazhang: no, i mean something like limewire
[02:49] <Pelo> levander, not realy, I just grab the file from the /tmp folder and rename it
[02:49] <Dr_willis> !frostwire
[02:49] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[02:49] <levander> Pelo: Cool, I'll try that.
[02:49] <jerthebear2> eduardo: uninstall ubuntu or HALD? I prefer if I didn't have to uninstall ubuntu because it's annoying getting all my packages
[02:50] <bazhang> eduardo: no idea about that; is some legit tool, or other
[02:50] <eduardo> jerthebear2: no, not ubuntu, HAL
[02:50] <ropoy> can someone please help me upgrade gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" doest work
[02:50] <Pelo> Dr_willis, why doesn't that ubotu trigger just give the frostwire url ?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  no idea. I dont use it. :)
[02:50] <Pelo> ropoy, upgrade from what to what ?
[02:50] <eduardo> bazhang: well i dont think downloading mp3 is legal, but everybody does it..
[02:50] <ropoy> from 6.04 to 6.10 using cd
[02:51] <bazhang> !piracy | eduardo
[02:51] <ubotu> eduardo: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[02:51] <Dr_willis> depends on the speicic mp3 if its legal or not. :)
[02:51] <ropoy> pelo from 7.10 to 7.10
[02:51] <ropoy> pelo from 7.04 to 7.10
[02:51] <Pelo> ropoy, firstly you need the alternate cd or the dvd to do an upgrade like that, and I dont think that is the correct command line
[02:51] <eduardo> bazhang: snitch, lol
[02:51] <ncfi1013> can anybody tell me what the problem might be when nero or k3b won't work right
[02:51] <Pelo> !upgrade > ropoy check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[02:51] <Dr_willis> ncfi1013,  run k3b from the terminal, look for error messages
[02:52] <ropoy> pelo: ill try it
[02:52] <Pelo> ncfi1013, define "won't work right"
[02:52] <bazhang> ncfi1013: what errors are you getting? something about the dcop server?
[02:52] <jerthebear2> eduardo: I will try that. In the meantime, I will use windows and post something on the ubuntu forums
[02:52] <eduardo> ropoy: try sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release
[02:52] <dmsuperman> Anybody know why my screen might keep flickering? Occasionally, perhaps every 5 minutes, my monitor flickers black for just a half-second, and then it's fine again
[02:52] <eduardo> jerthebear2: ok
[02:52] <b0x> check the calbes
[02:52] <b0x> cables8
[02:52] <b0x> *
[02:53] <Pelo> dmsuperman, go and put the horizsync values back to what they were yesterday before we tried to fix your shifty monitor problem
[02:53] <Dr_willis> dmsuperman,  even while using the machine? or is it just sitting there?
[02:53] <eduardo> dmsuperman: check the Hz frecuency maybe you monitor doesnt support your actual frecuency
[02:53] <ncfi1013> what's a dcop server
[02:53] <levander> dmsuperman: That sounds scary.  I lost a monitor one time after it started acting up a little.  The problem was the video card went bad and it started sending signals to the monitor that were screwing it up.
[02:53] <dmsuperman> Pelo: i made them what the back of the monitor says to put
[02:53] <dmsuperman> Dr_willis: it's on the machine i'm using right now
[02:54] <bazhang> ncfi1013: what errors are you getting precisely; please give some details--just saying it does not work will not suffice here
[02:54] <dmsuperman> levander: i doubt it, anything's possible but this monitor's not that old, and has been very solid
[02:54] <ropoy> eduardo: im using a cd
[02:54] <ropoy> Pelo: it doest seem to work
[02:54] <eduardo> ropoy: are you on live cd?
[02:54]  * eduardo will BRB
[02:54] <ropoy> eduardo: i downloadaed the 7.10 cd
[02:55] <levander> dmsuperman: Yeah, but if the video card is mistreating the monitor...  My video card was less than  a year old when it started doing that to the monitor.  I'm just saying you need to figure that flickering out.  Could be bad.
[02:55] <Pelo> ropoy,  are you using the live cd ? you can't upgrade from the live cd , you need the alternate install cd
[02:56] <dmsuperman> Pelo: you don't happen to keep logs do you? or is this channel logged? i don't have a clue what the values were initially
[02:56] <ropoy> Pelo: il try and see
[02:56] <bazhang> !logs
[02:56] <ubotu> Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[02:56] <ncfi1013> when i make the playlist to burn and put in a blank disc the burn option is grayed  out
[02:56] <Pelo> dmsuperman, the channel is logged, read up a couple of lines
[02:56] <On7H3MooN> http://shoopedup.myminicity.com/ind
[02:56] <dmsuperman> woot :D
[02:57] <bazhang> On7H3Moon please stop
[02:58] <eduardo> ropoy: what do you want to do?
[02:58] <sonit> hello
[02:58] <thundr3> hello
[02:58] <Pelo> !ops
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[02:58] <LjL> what?
[02:58] <tritium> Pelo: ?
[02:58] <Pelo> LjL, can you ban  on7h3moon
[02:59] <icesword> lol
[02:59]  * Pelo doesn't need @
[02:59] <levander> Dynamic IP.  He changes it and gets back in.
[03:00] <cybojanek> If I install 8.04 beta, can I upgrade to 8.04 full without entriely reinstalling?
[03:00] <icanhasadmin> cybojanek: in shory, yes
[03:00] <Pelo> cybojanek, you'll get updated when the official is released, just like any regular update
[03:00] <icanhasadmin> *short
[03:01] <bazhang> cybojanek: yes further discussion in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[03:01] <centaur5> I'm trying to join a windows machine to a samba pdc but when it asks for my user on the client it says access denied. Am I supposed to do something special with the unix user?
[03:01] <dmsuperman> Pelo: [04:06] <dmsuperman_> alright, both have:	Horizsync	30-70
[03:01] <dmsuperman> [04:06] <dmsuperman_> 	Vertrefresh	50-180
[03:02] <dmsuperman> i'm not sure what Vertrefresh should be, i think it's still default 50-180
[03:02] <Pelo> dmsuperman, don'T mess with te vertrefresh one
[03:02] <dmsuperman> but i know i changed Horizsync to 50-60, as the back of both monitors state
[03:03] <dmsuperman> should i change it back to 30-70?
[03:03] <Pelo> dmsuperman, xorg still included the monitor's capablilty in it's range,  i'm not saying this will solve the fliker problem but it wonT' hurt
[03:03] <dmsuperman> Pelo: alright :D
[03:03] <uppp> i have a problem on my sources.list
[03:04] <Pelo> dmsuperman, you can also try degausing your monitor, that probablyl wonT' hurt either,  I donT' do it often enought myself
[03:04]  * Pelo wonders how many ppl are degausing their monitors right now just cause he mentionned it 
[03:04] <uppp> i have a problem on my sources.list
[03:04] <dmsuperman> Pelo: odd, i degaused yesterday but i just did it now and it went nuts :P
[03:04] <Pelo> uppp, state the problem
[03:04] <bastid_raZor> heh.. glad i have two LCD's..
[03:05] <uppp> http://upp.pastebin.com/m3379d829
[03:05] <oem> hey guys, does anybody yet have any experience with the Magento Commerce suite?
[03:05] <uppp> that is my sources.http://upp.pastebin.com/m3379d829
[03:05] <bazookatooth> are there any super-cool new features in hardy heron? i was thinking about wasting some time installing it tonight
[03:06] <eduardo> bazookatooth: check the new features in ubuntu's web page
[03:06] <levander> bazookatooth: I think they only want people interested in testing it on Hardy still.
[03:06] <uppp> Pelo http://upp.pastebin.com/m3379d829
[03:06] <Pelo> uppp, and what is the problem ?
[03:06] <bazhang> bazookatooth: more discussion in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[03:06] <dylanowens> DCC SEND AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDS
[03:07] <uppp> when i give apt-get update i have this W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:07] <uppp> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:07] <uppp> up@up-laptop:~$ gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:07] <akram> hi
[03:07] <dmsuperman> This is a triumph
[03:07] <eduardo> akram: hi
[03:07] <uppp> hi akram
[03:07] <bazhang> uppp: have you tried sudo apt-get update?
[03:07] <dmsuperman> I'm making a note here, huge success
[03:07] <joyce> joyce
[03:08] <uppp> yes
[03:08] <uppp> yes
[03:08] <Pelo> uppp, so run sudo apt-get update again
[03:08] <dmsuperman> It's hard to overstate my satisfaction
[03:08] <akram> any news??
[03:08] <Pelo> dmsuperman, emoting
[03:08] <bazhang> ubuntu support question akram?
[03:08] <shivamib> lol
[03:08] <Shpook> Is there a general chat room? I have a question related to an online search for a person.
[03:08] <bazhang> !ot
[03:08] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:09] <bazhang> Shpook: see above
[03:09] <dmsuperman> Pelo: Take it you've never played Portal :'(
[03:09] <Shpook> bazhang: Thanks, I didn't know about offtopic. :-D
[03:09] <bazhang> np ;]
[03:10] <Pelo> dmsuperman, I'm not much of a gamer
[03:10] <bazhang> heh thanks
[03:10] <Shpook> Me neither, but Portal sucks you in....no pun intended.
[03:10] <shivamib> Shpook: isnt that what portals do?
[03:10] <shivamib> lol
[03:11] <dmsuperman> GUFFAW
[03:11]  * Pelo use to play  "The Stone" but he had to stop for other ppl's health 
[03:11] <Shpook> :-D
[03:11]  * dmsuperman slaps his knee in MASSIVE LAUGHTER
[03:11] <tommmied> Hello,  can anyone please point me in the right direction to look,  When my computer loads, grub prompts me asking me what i want to choose.  How can i stop that and make it automatically pick the one I want.?
[03:11] <Shpook> dmsuperman: Is that sarcasm I smell? :-P
[03:11] <jerthebear2> eduardo: how do I uninstall/reinstall HALD?
[03:11] <bazhang> tommmied: from different kernels? different OSes? what are the choices?
[03:11] <dmsuperman> naw, it's...erm i mean yes, sarcasm
[03:11] <Laptop765> greetings, when I had initially installed Ubuntu I was quite pleased to find that my ThinkPad volume/mute keys were working with no user action (I switched from Gentoo where everything was a 5 hour process)...although recently I seem to find that all of a sudden they stopped working and I can't find any literature as to why this might have happened and/or how to fix it
[03:12] <tommmied> kernels
[03:12] <eduardo> jerthebear2: sudo-apt get uninstall <application name>
[03:12] <Pelo> tommmied, gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.list ,  there is an option to select the line to boot toward the top ,   the numbering starts with 0 , and you have an opton to hidemenu as well
[03:12] <tommmied> Pelo great thanks!
[03:13] <eduardo> jerthebear2: and to reinstall just change uninstall for reinstall
[03:13] <eduardo> or install
[03:13] <nikolai> hello hello - anyone have any experience with 7.10 on dv2000 series hp pavillion laptops?
[03:13] <tommmied> Pelo, that file shouldn't be blank right?
[03:13] <jerthebear2> eduardo: I tried sudo apt-get remove hald and hald is not a package
[03:13] <bazhang> Laptop765: when did this start happening? after what install/script/repo addition etc.
[03:13] <Laptop765> it was a while ago
[03:13] <Laptop765> I can't pinpoint any particular update or anything
[03:13] <Pelo> tommmied, you probably misspelled,   my mistake I did ,  menu.lst
[03:13] <Laptop765> I didn't notice it at first
[03:14] <Laptop765> and I spent some time trying to fix it on my own
[03:14] <luxet> guys is there a way to download from trac like subversion?
[03:14] <bastid_raZor> tommmied; it is the hiddenmenu option.. uncomment it
[03:14] <Pelo> Laptop765, please don'T use the enter key for punctuation
[03:14] <tommmied> Hey bastid_raZor here again
[03:14] <Totem> what should I look up for creating 2d graphics in games?
[03:14] <Totem> with c++?
[03:14] <bastid_raZor> tommmied; this place is where are all answers are :)
[03:14] <dmsuperman> Totem: ms paint
[03:14] <bazhang> nikolai: best to just ask your real question; if someone knows they may answer
[03:15] <Totem> haha, I don't mean making them, I mean rendering them to the screen. Something like GDI+ for Linux
[03:15] <tommmied> bastid_raZor, ever since i got the driver working ubuntu been running nice a smooth
[03:15] <Laptop765> Pelo: sorry
[03:15] <uppp> how can i read rm media with mozilla
[03:15] <Totem> Really anything that lets me draw images to the screen
[03:15] <trucMuche> jerthebear2, sudo apt-get reinstall hal ?
[03:15] <dmsuperman> uppp: real alternative?
[03:15] <eduardo> jerthebear2: mhh, try if someone else can help you with that then,im out of ideas
[03:15] <Pelo> uppp, install mozila-mplayer
[03:15] <uppp> real player dmsuperman
[03:15] <eduardo> jerthebear2: im not that experienced with HALD
[03:15] <bastid_raZor> tommmied; great
[03:15] <Totem> anyone?
[03:16] <Pelo> Totem, try asking in #c++
[03:16] <jerthebear2> trucmuche, eduardo: Uh oh.... I did sudo apt-get remove hal and not only did it not fix it, it removed lots of gnome things :(
[03:16] <Totem> Pelo: ok, is that on this network?
[03:16] <Pelo> Totem, yes
[03:16] <Pelo> jerthebear2, what issu whre you having ?
[03:17] <dmsuperman> uppp: Aye, there's one called real alternative
[03:17] <bazhang> jerthebear2: this was after you removed dbus? that was when the problems started?
[03:17] <dmsuperman> uppp: It plays rm files
[03:17] <eduardo> jerthebear2:  like what
[03:17] <dmsuperman> uppp: not sure if it's winblows only tho
[03:17] <jerthebear2> bazhang: yes
[03:17] <luxet> anyone has a working link to get PyOpenDirectory?
[03:17] <jerthebear2> eduardo: i don't know but some sounded mildly serious
[03:17] <uppp> dmsupermanso how can i read it into mozilla
[03:17] <bazhang> jerthebear2: any reason why you did that? just experimenting or what
[03:18] <eduardo> jerthebear2: try reinsall hal
[03:18] <thundr3> jerthebear2: You are fine unless you reboot
[03:18] <eduardo> jerthebear2: apt-get reinstall hal
[03:18] <uppp> dmsupermanso how can i read it into mozilla
[03:18] <jerthebear2> bazhang: wanted to make startup faster
[03:18] <jerthebear2> thundr3: I rebooted... crap...
[03:18] <ShiftyPowers> anyone find that GDM is incredibly slow on hardy?
[03:19] <bazhang> by removing dbus? seems an odd choice
[03:19] <Pelo> ShiftyPowers, ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:19] <jerthebear2> |:
[03:19] <jerthebear2> i'm noob
[03:19] <jerthebear2> didn't know what dbus did
[03:19] <eduardo> jerthebear2: dont worry we're all here to help
[03:19] <dmsuperman> I feel dumb. I put the rick roll url in a txt file, and left myself a note to open it. I hid it in a dir i wouldn't see for quite a while, and then today i rick roll'ed myself :'(
[03:19] <eduardo> u still in ubuntu?
[03:19] <jerthebear2> and because I don't have the internet on ubuntu I can't reinstall hal
[03:19] <ShiftyPowers> Pelo, what's ubuntu+1?
[03:19] <ShiftyPowers> nevermind
[03:19] <ShiftyPowers> doh
[03:19] <bazhang> ShiftyPowers: the hardy channel
[03:20] <uppp> dmsupermanso how can i read it into mozilla
[03:20] <dmsuperman> ShiftyPowers: future ubuntu
[03:20] <ShiftyPowers> i'm an idiot
[03:20] <Pelo> jerthebear2, this is what you do then,  you put  /home on a seperate partiton, and then you can mess around with the OS wihout fear of loosing any data and you can reinstall all you want when you mess up ,
[03:20] <bazhang> jerthebear2: you have the livecd around?
[03:20] <dmsuperman> uppp: as i said, i'm not sure if it's windows only, but i'm pretty sure when i opened it it would play rm files in mozilla
[03:20] <Pelo> ShiftyPowers, you are not , you were just distracted
[03:20] <eduardo> yeah live cd should do the trick
[03:20] <uppp> any one help me to read web media
[03:21] <jerthebear2> yes I have my live cd
[03:21] <jerthebear2> what should I do with it?
[03:21] <jerthebear2> btw I can't log in in graphics ubuntu now
[03:21] <eduardo> ShiftyPowers: ubuntu+1 is a channel for hardy heron
[03:21] <Pelo> uppp, do you actual read when ppl give you instructions, ?  intall  mplaye-mozilla
[03:21] <bazhang> jerthebear2: how old is this install; i.e., how much data do you have saved on it etc
[03:21] <eduardo> jerthebear2: what do you mean you can log in graphics?
[03:22] <uppp> Pelo idon't found this pacjage
[03:22] <uppp> package
[03:22] <marpstar_> 7
[03:22] <Pelo> uppp, just do a search for mplayer
[03:22] <Pelo> uppp, it,s either mplayer-mozilla or mozilla-mplayer
[03:22] <jerthebear2> like I can' log in in normal graphics, after I type username and password It just shows the salmon-coloured background and mouse
[03:22] <jerthebear2> bazhang: what install do you mean?
[03:23] <linkinxp> guys whats the name for the control center for compiz?
[03:23] <jerthebear2> what should I do with my livecd other than boot from it?
[03:23] <Pelo> jerthebear2, just clean install ubuntu
[03:23] <bastid_raZor> jerthebear2; unlike a windows box .. Ubuntu is not full of bloatware.
[03:23] <Pelo> linkinxp, just search for compiz
[03:23] <IdleOne> !ccsm
[03:23] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[03:23] <eduardo> jerthebear2: try ctrl+alt+bck space
[03:24] <linkinxp> IdleOne:  thanks Pelo thanks
[03:24] <yowshi> !opengl
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <jerthebear2> I can still boot into recovery mode
[03:24] <yowshi> anyone know whgat i have to apt-get to have the opengl libs?
[03:25] <nikolai> is anyone familiar with getting Broadcom BCM4310 wireless cards to work?
[03:25] <eduardo> jerthebear2: try this cat /var/log/xorg.log |grep EE
[03:25] <tommmied> bastid_raZor, how do your normally update your firefox ?
[03:26] <tommmied> compile it from binary ?
[03:26] <jerthebear2> eduardo: it says such file does not exist
[03:26] <Pelo> tommmied, we wait for an update in the repositories
[03:26] <bastid_raZor> tommmied; i use the repo's for my main firefox use.. but i also have the beta 5 downloaded.
[03:26] <tommmied> Pelo, so your still on 2.0.0.6 ?
[03:27]  * Pelo is gonna but out now, he's not paying attention enough 
[03:27] <bastid_raZor> tommmied; firefox3.0 is the beta available in the repo's
[03:27] <Pelo> tommmied, no , I'm on hardy , I have FF 3 beta
[03:27] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx see here nikolai
[03:27] <tommmied> hmm let me check that
[03:27] <eduardo> jerthebear2: try dhclient && aptitude update && aptitude upgrade
[03:27] <Pelo> tommmied, wait 2 weeks , you'll get it with the upgrade
[03:27] <jerthebear2> eduardo: however I cat the Xorg.0.log
[03:28] <Pelo> tommmied, FF3 is realy not stable enough atm , not with flash anway
[03:28] <tommmied> yea just weird, the one i have selected in the repo is the current version 2.0.0.6
[03:28] <tommmied> I am running gutsy
[03:28] <eduardo> jerthebear2: i think u fked up xorg..
[03:29] <jerthebear2> (EE) AIGLX error: dlsum for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: _driCreateNewScreen_20050727)
[03:29] <ropoy> eduardo: evertym i try to upgrade its says "sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release"
[03:29] <jerthebear2> and
[03:29] <Pelo> tommmied, FF3 is only availabe in hardy, stick to FF2
[03:29] <jerthebear2> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[03:29] <linkinxp> how i update GTK?
[03:29] <jerthebear2> yes XD I've done that a few times now
[03:29] <tommmied> Ohh... which firefox are they releasing with hardy ?
[03:29] <linkinxp> !gtk
[03:29] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[03:29] <newber> i have a question reguarding ndiswrapper
[03:29] <ropoy> Pelo:  evertym i try to upgrade its says "sudo do-release-upgrade --devel-release
[03:30] <Flannel> ropoy: Hardy support is in #ubuntu+1, thanks
[03:30] <Pelo> ropoy, what cd are you using , the live cd or the alternate cd ?
[03:30] <eduardo> jerthebear2: ok, there's the error, unfourtunatly idk how to fix that one, sorry
[03:30] <ropoy> its the alternate cd
[03:30] <Pelo> Flannel, he's upgrading to 7.10
[03:30] <ropoy> Pelo: its the alternate cd
[03:30] <newber> anyone?
[03:30] <Pelo> ropoy, and youre sure you have the correct command ?
[03:30] <Flannel> ropoy: Which command are you giving?
[03:30] <Pelo> newber, ask the quewsiton
[03:30] <bastid_raZor> Pelo; by any chance do you use avant?
[03:30] <neur0n> How do i exit 'x' to isntall my nvidia driver? ctrl alt backspace doesnt work, i kill x and it retarrts...
[03:31] <yowshi> anyone know whgat i have to apt-get to have the opengl libs?
[03:31] <newber> ok, so i installed ndiswrapper
[03:31] <Pelo> bastid_raZor, no I am very lucky in that way I managed to avoid it
[03:31] <newber> when i try to install the driver, it said invalid driver
[03:31] <ropoy> Flannel: gksu "sh /cdrom0/cdromupgrade"
[03:31] <eduardo> jerthebear2: you got that after doing cat /var/log/xorg.log |grep EE?
[03:31] <jerthebear2> eduardo: which is the error? the first line or the second? or both? and your aptitude command semed to work
[03:31] <yowshi> neur0n: you have to go into a failsafe terminal
[03:31] <Pelo> ropoy, we told you that's not the command
[03:31] <newber> i have a netgear wg111 v3 and the tutorial i was following i think had the driver for v2
[03:31] <jerthebear2> eduardo: I got that after doing cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[03:31] <eduardo> jerthebear2: both of them are the errors
[03:32] <Pelo> !enter | newber
[03:32] <ubotu> newber: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:32] <neur0n> yowshi: how do i do that?
[03:32] <bastid_raZor> Pelo; i'd like to know more if you were able to talk here or OT channel.. lucky to avoid avant? to me avant is a necessity
[03:32] <ropoy> Pelo: sorry, what the right command/
[03:32] <newber> sorry
[03:32] <yowshi> neur0n: log out and then change ytour session type
[03:32] <bazhang> newber what is the exact chipset for that
[03:32] <eduardo> jerthebear2: try that command again but instead of EE write WW
[03:32] <mugen1> I'm looking to install firestarter(firewall) in add/remove. But once I put a check box next to it, a box pops up saying that "the list of applications is not available" and that I need an internet connection. I am currently connected to the internet, I don't know why it's saying that.
[03:32] <neur0n> yowshi: that still starts X though
[03:32] <newber> as in...?
[03:32] <Pelo> !upgrade > ropoy check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[03:32] <nikolai> nikolai
[03:33] <yowshi> neur0n: it shouldnt worst case scenario you would have to go a full reboot and use the rescue mode cli
[03:33] <jerthebear2> eduardo: by the way, after your aptitude command I tried apt-get install hal and instead of the original cannot connect message it now says can't start hardware abstraction layer - please ensure dbus is running
[03:33] <Pelo> bastid_raZor, I just don't go for eyecandy, I tried it for about 15 minutes and got rid of it ,  that's all
[03:33] <neur0n> yowshi: alright thanks
[03:33] <eduardo> jerthebear2:  ok lemme see...
[03:33] <yowshi> can someone please tell me where to get the opengl libs and headers
[03:34] <jerthebear2> eduardo: ok there's 6 lines for ww
[03:34] <icesword> yowshi, apt-cache search
[03:34] <bazhang> yowshi: have you checked at packages.ubuntu.com
[03:34] <Pelo> and bastid_raZor youcan'T say that avant is essentiel,  usefull possibly, pretty sure, interensting why not, but it is in no way essential
[03:34] <jerthebear2> eduardo: The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
[03:34] <Pelo> yowshi, menu  > system> admin > synaptic package manager ,
[03:34] <yowshi> bazhang: yeah i need something for amd64 though
[03:34] <jerthebear2> eduardo: Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (no such file or directory)
[03:35] <yowshi> bazhang: i cant seem to forced-arch the gambas package
[03:35] <tommmied> isn't that kinda odd that they would release ubuntu with firefox as beta?
[03:35] <jerthebear2> eduardo: fglrx: No matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[03:35] <reya276> Can anyone tell me how I can see how may physical harddrives I have through CLI, I know the command was something like cat proc...
[03:35] <yowshi> Pelo: i tried that first
[03:35] <bastid_raZor> tommmied; not really considering hardy is still beta
[03:35] <jerthebear2> eduardo: fglrx(0): Only one display is connected, so single mode is enabled
[03:36] <bazhang> yowshi: not sure what gambas is; if you want any of the ubuntu packages that is where they would be including the amd64 ones
[03:36] <jerthebear2> eduardo: LoadModule: given non-canonical module name "glesx.so"
[03:36] <odinsbane> I have a program running that I started via ssh how do I make it continue to run even after I log out?
[03:36] <Pelo> tommmied, its, the lts,  which mean some ppl will stick with it for another 2 years,  they,Ll just need to update the packages whenit becomes final , otherwire the lts users would be stuck with an old version of FF
[03:36] <eduardo> jerthebear2: jeez thats rlly fckd up
[03:36] <yowshi> bazhang: gambas2-gb-qt-opengl_1.9.49-2ubuntu2_i386.deb is the only packacge thgat seems like it might have what i need
[03:36] <tommmied> it says 8.04 in 14 days is shipping with FF 3 beta 4
[03:37] <bazhang> eduardo: language please
[03:37] <reya276> Pelo: I need to make one of my internal hard drives to be access on first boot my all users, how can I make this happen, the drive is ext3 formated
[03:37] <tommmied> ohhh
[03:37] <thunc> reya276: all arguments are just objects. def search(input). search(search. oops. search(search_input_hash). the one exception is passing a block I think. block/proc/lamda
[03:37] <Pelo> tommmied, it's mostly ok ,  flash is just  tempermental a bit
[03:37] <eduardo> bazhang, can u help jerthebear2 I think im not that advanced to keep up this troubleshooting
[03:37] <jerthebear2> eduardo: ya i know :(
[03:37] <wren> I'm getting a strange pause during boot for about three minutes while Ubuntu is loading kernel modules. The last line in dmesg before the pause is hda_codec: Unknown model for ALC883, trying auto-probe from BIOS... Anyone think they can help me debug this? I don't know much about Ubuntu' startup procedure, or this sound driver.
[03:37] <bazhang> tommmied: ubuntu+1 for hardy discussion; they can explain the rationale behind that decision
[03:37] <jerthebear2> bazhang: lol XD
[03:38] <Pelo> reya276, just add a line to fstab
[03:38] <tommmied> Cool thanks was just curious
[03:38] <rah> hi hi
[03:38] <yowshi> i have tried installing everything i could find opengl library related including python but the configure for the dev release of lincity-ng is still telling me i dont have it]
[03:38] <reya276> Pelo: right but I don't know the name of the drive
[03:38] <newber> blastid Razor: could bcml5 be a chipset?
[03:38] <reya276> Pelo: so I need to find this out first
[03:38] <Pelo> reya276, blkid
[03:38] <nickrud> yowshi what exactly is it saying it can't find?
[03:38] <thunc> reya276: same results at commandline
[03:39] <rah> alguien de mexico?????????
[03:39] <yowshi> nikrud configure: error: Couldn't find opengl libraries or headers
[03:39] <rah> o k hable español
[03:39] <nickrud> !es | rah
[03:39] <ubotu> rah: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:39] <reya276> ﻿thunc: I need the actual command line
[03:39] <linkinxp> i need help with this........http://pastebin.com/mf5e4d63
[03:39] <Pelo> reya276, then use this line as a template of what to ad in fstab   UUID=1c38d1a6-dcaa-450c-ba70-b5a7a5ade9a6 /media/DRIVE ext3 defaults 0 2
[03:39] <Pelo> linkinxp, what is it about ?
[03:39] <linkinxp> Pelo: compiling xmms
[03:40] <Pelo> linkinxp, why not use the one in the repos ?
[03:40] <linkinxp> pelo i cant find it :(
[03:40] <linkinxp> !xmms
[03:40] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[03:40] <nickrud> linkinxp install build-essential
[03:40] <eduardo> jerthebear2:  try this sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[03:40] <linkinxp> nickrud:  okey ;D
[03:40] <newber> bazhang: could bcml5 be a chipset?
[03:40] <bazhang> is xmms even under development still?
[03:40] <nickrud> !gutsysources | linkinxp but do this first, and look for xmms in the repos first
[03:40] <ubotu> linkinxp but do this first, and look for xmms in the repos first: gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[03:41] <bazhang> newber this is internal or usb
[03:41] <linkinxp> nickrud:  okey ill do it
[03:41] <Pelo> linkinxp, just search for xmms in synaptic
[03:41] <newber> usb
[03:41] <T1m0thy> xmms is outdated
[03:41] <Pelo> welcome back nickrud
[03:41] <jerthebear2> eduardo: it's taking a while
[03:41] <__catron_> newber: THIS IS INTERNAL USB!!!!
[03:41] <T1m0thy> Get 'audacious'
[03:41] <thunc> T1m0thy: ok
[03:41] <nickrud> Pelo slept about 10 hours yesterday
[03:41] <eduardo> jerthebear2: ok let' see what happens
[03:41] <Pelo> nickrud, did it help ?
[03:41] <newber> catron: what?
[03:42] <nickrud> muchly, thank you
[03:42]  * Pelo now pumps nickrud full of coffee so he won'T sleep for a week to compensate
[03:42] <nebri> Hey all
[03:42] <nickrud> yowshi did you get the exact line that the error gave, I missed it if you did
[03:43] <newber> would it be alright if i post a link of a pic of my problem in the terminal?
[03:43] <LadyNikon> can anyone help me get the startbar in adesklet launch lowered applications ex: lowring the browser window and reopening it
[03:43] <nickrud> newber sure
[03:43] <LadyNikon> newber: yes
[03:43] <jerthebear2> eduardo: I've tried running hald before and it doesn' get any further than the first line currently, it says "restarting hardware abstraction layer hald" for like 5 minutes
[03:43] <pingu> i have wine installed and the sound doesn't work on streaming videos what can/should i do
[03:43] <newber> http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k265/ftworftl/wirelessproblem.png
[03:43] <kadko> Hello ppl how can i install a wallpaper whit .wcz extencion?
[03:43] <odinsbane> peace
[03:44] <linkinxp> Pelo:  nickrud i got it :D
[03:44]  * Pelo dances 
[03:44] <gitpik> Hi! Can anyone help me out with understanding how sound drivers work with ubuntu? I'm using onboard sound Realtek ALC883 and i"m getting crackly sound in some games and apps but not others.
[03:44] <LadyNikon> !sound
[03:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:44] <eduardo> jerthebear2: ok lets try this sudo apt-get remove --purge hal then sudo apt-get install hal
[03:45] <jerthebear2> eduardo: same dbus error
[03:45] <nickrud> newber I don't know much about wireless, but   iwconfig   should say something about configured wireless devices (hopefully)
[03:45] <kadko> !mp3
[03:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:45] <eduardo> jerthebear2: after installing it again?
[03:46] <newber> nickrud: the thing is, when in do iwconfig, it says there is nothing there
[03:46] <jerthebear2> eduardo: it is installed, just re-running will cause the problem. I'm not sure hal and hald are the samething in this instance
[03:46] <eduardo> i thought u had issues with hal...
[03:46] <gitpik> Thank you ubotu! but yes I do have ALSA selected there.
[03:46] <nickrud> newber that's what I wondered. I'm lucky, my bcm4311 was supported by the restricted driver in gutsy
[03:46] <newber> man
[03:47] <newber> nickrud: what do you have?
[03:47] <pawan> how to install tar.gz file
[03:47] <pingu> i have wine installed and the sound doesn't work on streaming videos what can/should i do
[03:47] <Pelo> g'night folks
[03:47] <nickrud> newber Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[03:48] <newber> oh
[03:48] <newber> pawan: what are you trying to install?
[03:48] <eduardo> jerthebear2: i thought u had troubles with hal..
[03:48] <nickrud> pawan depends on what's inside the tarball
[03:48] <eduardo> !sound
[03:48] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:48] <kadko> Hello ppl how can i install a wallpaper whit .wcz extencion?
[03:48] <pawan> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[03:48] <jerthebear2> eduardo: ... it was the HAL daemon, wich is HALD
[03:49] <nickrud> pawan   sudo apt-get get install flashplugin-nonfree , that will install flash for you
[03:49] <jerthebear2> eduardo: and also really I just need to fix the dbus
[03:49] <yowshi> nikrud configure: error: Couldn't find opengl libraries or headers
[03:49] <yowshi> nickrud configure: error: Couldn't find opengl libraries or headers
[03:49] <pingu> i have wine installed and the sound doesn't work on streaming videos what can/should i do
[03:50] <yowshi> nickrud: i thought you were nikrud not nickrud
[03:50] <khakane> hi, im trying to remotely connect to an X server through putty-tunneling in windows, and i need to know how to do it to get login screen.  if i login remotely from the LAN at work with xmins, i get login screen, but nothing from home..
[03:50] <bazhang> pawan what file
[03:50] <pawan> flash plugin for opera
[03:50] <nickrud> both, been nickrud a lot longer. Liked the look of nikrud, but I can't get into the ban tracker as nikrud, so ....
[03:50] <bazhang> shockwave?
[03:51] <pawan> pawan@pawan-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:51] <pawan> E: Invalid operation get
[03:51] <linkinxp> guys a nice tool for Compiz to turn it on and off ....http://forlong.blogage.de/article/pages/Compiz-Switch
[03:51] <bazhang> pawan one get too many
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> pawan: yeah, you don't need that get...
[03:51] <eduardo> jerthebear2: try /etc/init.d/rc CONCURRENCY=none
[03:51] <bazookatooth> apt-get get
[03:51] <khakane> no ideas eh
[03:51] <pawan> ok
[03:51] <bazookatooth> stop stuttering
[03:52] <jerthebear2> eduardo: did that, then tried all the install hal again, didn't work
[03:52] <bazhang> khakane: please be patient; normally answers do not come in a single minute
[03:53] <eduardo> jerthebear2: what about dbus?
[03:53] <nickrud> yowshi try installing libglut3-dev , it depends on most every important gl header
[03:53] <bazhang> pingu: streaming videos under wine? what are you trying to do with that
[03:53] <LadyNikon> anyone use gdesklets and can help me figure out how to make the launcher reopen lowered applications
[03:53] <eduardo> jerthebear2: that command was intended to fix dbus..
[03:54] <pingu> bazhang: like youtube
[03:54] <pingu> bazhang: is that not streaming?
[03:54] <bazhang> pingu what does that have to with wine; clarify please
[03:54] <jerthebear2> eduardo: when installing it still says please ensure dbus is running
[03:54] <kadko> !games
[03:54] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[03:54] <jerthebear2> eduardo: I will reboot and try again
[03:55] <pingu> bazhang: the sound doesn't work for those videos when im in wine
[03:55] <eduardo> ok
[03:55] <eduardo> jerthebear2: ok ill see u back here
[03:55] <two-bits> hello. is there anyway to adjust the tap-to-click sensitivity in Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon
[03:55] <two-bits> It's way too sensitive on my laptop
[03:55] <CK_MY> how to execute tar.bz2 file ?
[03:55] <tocmo0nlord> a program is suposed to open full screen, i think i pressed some keys and made it not full screen now it opens normal instead of full screen every time how could i fix it ?
[03:55] <bazhang> pingu what app are you using to stream youtube videos under wine
[03:56] <eduardo> CK_MY: tar xvfj then filename
[03:56] <Lainy> tocmo0nlord: have you tried alt+enter?
[03:56] <pingu> bazhang: ok sorry got the lingo wrong just trying to watch videos on youtube and there is not sound not streaming
[03:57] <_Silhouette_> Hello...I am trying to install ubuntu onto my computer but after it loads it goes to a blank pink screen where it lets me move around my mouse, but nothing happens. How do I get it to work properly?
[03:57] <thundr3> pingu: does sound work elsewhere in Ubuntu?
[03:57] <yowshi> nickrud: grrr now it tells me i need SDLMixer >=1.2.2 not in synaptic or ubuntu pakcages
[03:57] <pingu> thundr3: yea listening to 3 doors down now
[03:57] <bazhang> pingu: it seems your sound card has been captured by wine; what about not using wine--does the sound go normally then
[03:58] <eduardo> _Silhouette_: are you using live cd?
[03:58] <jerthebear2> eduardo: no, it's still not working
[03:58] <nickrud> yowshi libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
[03:58] <eduardo> jerthebear2:  try this sudo /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes
[03:58] <pingu> bazhang: like just on ubuntu it works fine but the videos don't load sometimes
[03:59] <_Silhouette_> eduardo: yes, pretty sure. I downloaded it off the website.
[03:59] <nickrud> yowshi   apt-cache search sdl | grep dev found that, you can find most stuff with that syntax
[03:59] <tocmo0nlord> heh that worked :P
[03:59] <eduardo> jerthebear2: that's the way to start hald manually
[03:59] <yowshi> nickrud: thanks
[03:59] <sonit> does anybody now why ubuntu gutsy freezes/crash/etc?
[03:59] <jerthebear2> eduardo: apt-get install hal IS hald! |:
[03:59] <nickrud> yowshi now, the gl stuff was harder ;)
[03:59] <bazhang> sonit need more info before knowing the cause
[04:00] <reya276> Pelo: How can I give that drive chmod 777
[04:00] <Alan_M> sonit, could be a number of reasons and bugs probably....need WAY more information like what programs etc.
[04:00] <eduardo> jerthebear2: lol a typos..
[04:00] <sonit> it is aknown issue
[04:00] <sonit> in ubuntu forun
[04:00] <jerthebear2> eduardo: it still says /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket does not exist
[04:00] <Alan_M> sonit, exactly what PART of ubuntu gutsy are you talking about?
[04:00] <sonit> i hope next relese beok
[04:00] <bazhang> sonit ubuntuforums is a big place; care to elaborate?
[04:00] <jerthebear2> eduardo: /var/run/dbus doesn't exist
[04:01] <nickrud> jerthebear2 have you tried restarting/reinstalling dbus?
[04:01] <reya276> How can I give 777 permision to /media/disk-5 (internal harddrive)
[04:01] <nickrud> reya276 ext3 or ntfs/vfat?
[04:01] <bazhang> sonit gutsy has been rock solid stable for myself and many others; I suspect the problem is on your end
[04:01] <_Silhouette_> eduardo: do you know why I'm getting the blank screen?
[04:01] <reya276> ﻿nickrud: oh it is ext3
[04:02] <reya276> I added to the /etc/fstab file
[04:02] <eduardo> _Silhouette_: is ubuntu already installed?
[04:02] <jerthebear2> eduardo: how?
[04:02] <sonit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587905   this shows it is not just me
[04:02] <__catron_> Where is the love?
[04:02] <nickrud> reya276   sudo chmod 777 /media/disk-5    (with the disk mounted, and the permissions will be remembered between mounts)
[04:02] <neur0n> using compiz, my emerald themes arent showing shadows around windows / taskbar. any thoughts?
[04:02] <pingu> bazhang: any ideas what to do?
[04:02] <yowshi> nickrud: thanks a bundle man the search command helped me find the rest of the stuff i needed
[04:02] <eduardo> jerthebear2: how what?
[04:02] <_Silhouette_> eduardo: no. I'm trying to install it now onto my external hard drive.
[04:02] <bazhang> __catron_: not here; please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:02] <eduardo> _Silhouette_: are you using the live cd?
[04:02] <jerthebear2> eduardo: nvm doing it right now
[04:03] <__catron_> bazhang, sorry
[04:03] <__catron_> bored to death
[04:03] <eduardo> jerthebear2: what are you doing?
[04:03] <__catron_> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:03] <reya276> nickrud: yeah that is not working
[04:03] <__catron_> lol
[04:03]  * nickrud cries, no love, maybe #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:03] <__catron_> LOL
[04:03] <FloodBot1> __catron_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:03] <reya276> nickrud: this is what I have on my fstab file '/dev/sdb5       /media/disk-5   ext3'
[04:03] <jerthebear2> eduardo: it is removing 107 packages...
[04:03] <thundr3> _Silhouette_: you could also try using the alternative install CD as well, but let's try getting this working first
[04:04] <mindguru08> Hey Everyone
[04:04] <jerthebear2> eduardo: looks like if this doesn't work I'll have to reinstall ubuntu :(
[04:04] <Odd-rationale> mindguru08: hi
[04:04] <mindguru08> hello
[04:04] <bazhang> pingu not sure how wine entered into this; most ubuntu apps are fine (mp3, videos, etc) so dont see the connection between wine and youtube sorry
[04:04] <b4l74z4r> does gthumb have a configuration file i can edit so i can zoom images with the mouse wheel?
[04:04] <mindguru08> why is your name gold?
[04:04] <nickrud> reya276 /dev/sdb5 /media/disk-5 ext3 defaults 0 1 , use that. And setting the permissions directly to the mount point while the disk is mounted does work
[04:04] <kadko> Hello ppl how can i install a wallpaper whit .wcz extencion?
[04:04] <linkinxp> where u change the WorkGroup?
[04:04] <eduardo> jerthebear2: well, just backup everything and reinstall that will be quiker than any troubleshooting session and you gain a backup in the way.
[04:04] <Odd-rationale> mindguru08: becuase i'm talking to you :)
[04:05] <dmsuperman> is there an amarok channel?
[04:05] <spanther> meow :)
[04:05] <eduardo> jerthebear2: i reinstalled ubuntu last week
[04:05] <_Silhouette_> eduardo: thundr3: I am pretty sure I'm using the live CD.
[04:05] <Odd-rationale> dmsuperman: #amaork
[04:05] <Odd-rationale> * #amarok
[04:05] <mindguru08> how do i talk to you?
[04:05] <longmanzz> ds
[04:05] <Odd-rationale> mindguru08: put my nick in you message.
[04:05] <jerthebear2> eduardo: lol too late :(
[04:05] <eduardo> _Silhouette_: then when u try to install it the screen goes blank?
[04:05] <Odd-rationale> mindguru08: you can use tab to autocomplete. e.g. odd<tab>
[04:05] <jerthebear2> eduardo: anyhow it's interesting ot see what happens
[04:06] <_Silhouette_> eduardo: it shows a loading screen, then turns into a pink desktop w/ a mouse cursor, nothing else
[04:06] <reya276> nickrud: I know it works because I've done it before but for some reason it not right now, maybe because is hardy beta? but thanks, let me reboot and see what happens
[04:06] <eduardo> jerthebear2: lol
[04:06] <dmsuperman> I suppose this may be a general question
[04:06] <nickrud> reya276 no reboot needed
[04:06] <nickrud> reya276   sudo umount /dev/sda5 && sudo mount -a
[04:06] <dmsuperman> I've got my folder "...And Justice For All"
[04:06] <bazhang> argh another hardy in disguise
[04:06] <dmsuperman> Amarok doesn't see it, I'm assuming it thinks it's a hidden folder
[04:06] <jerthebear2> eduardo: hey it's my first time with ubuntu, gotta try some things right?
[04:06] <dmsuperman> is there a way to specify that it's not a hidden folder?
[04:07] <nickrud> bazhang :)
[04:07] <travisat_> have they frozen hardy yet?
[04:07] <thundr3> dmsuperman: it's because it has a . in front of the name
[04:07] <dmsuperman> right
[04:07] <eduardo> jerthebear2: lol yeah
[04:07] <dmsuperman> but ... is the folder name
[04:07] <Scunizi> dmsuperman, yep and it might not like the spaces in the name.. when you start a folder with . it's hidden
[04:07] <nickrud> travisat_  #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1
[04:07] <mexican> hey guys
[04:07] <sonit> hoping hardy is more stable.
[04:07] <Bankai> eh guys, i finished installing dapper drake server on virual pc 2007, and i'm at the $ console now, problema is how do i change the screen resolution to 800x600?
[04:07] <reya276> nickrud: that is not working
[04:07] <dmsuperman> Scunizi, spaces are fine, i've got plenty of spaces in my other folder names
[04:07] <mexican> im installing qmail and i just gotta error. anyone take a look at it for me?
[04:07] <Scunizi> dmsuperman, wasn't quite sure..
[04:07] <reya276> ﻿nickrud: ntfs-3g: Failed to access volume '/dev/disk/by-uuid/D678EB1378EAF0E3': No such file or directory
[04:08] <mexican> i'll psatebin it?
[04:08] <nickrud> reya276 what are the permissions on /media/disk-5  after you do that command ?
[04:08] <dmsuperman> Scunizi, is there a way to make it not hidden, aside from removing the . at the beginning?
[04:08] <eduardo> jerthebear2: im new on ubuntu too, ive been using it for about 3 months but i try to learn new things everyday cause im not going back to windows
[04:08] <mindguru08> Odd-rationale: like that?
[04:08] <J-_> what file do I have to configure to use vhosts on my LAMP server?
[04:08] <Scunizi> dmsuperman, nope
[04:08] <Odd-rationale> mindguru08: exactly.
[04:08] <dmsuperman> darn
[04:08] <Orendafds> guys, how can i know on what partition to install grub loader so i can boot up both linux and win ??
[04:08] <bazhang> gutsy is plenty stable sonit, if you have some issues then please state them clearly and folks here can try to address them
[04:08] <nickrud> reya276 that is not the same as your sda5 .  blkid will tell you what partition that is
[04:08] <nickrud> reya276 in other words, you're troubleshooting the wrong thing
[04:08] <mindguru08> Odd-rationale: Kool
[04:09] <sonit> bazhang i told you here is the issues, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587905
[04:09] <jerthebear2> eduardo: one thing though, it seems installing the gnome package will get all or some of the lost packages back :D
[04:09] <dmsuperman> well that fixed it, but now my perfectly organized music folder isn't perfectly organized :'(
[04:09] <mindguru08> Odd-rationale: any other tricks should know about?
[04:09] <sonit> many people have prob and they don't know why
[04:09] <eduardo> jerthebear2: yeah, we may be able to fix your issue
[04:09] <tuxus> "Updates" suggests I change flashplugin-nonfree from 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12.2 to 9.0.124.0ubuntu1~gutsy1   Anyone done this and suffered negative side-effects?
[04:09] <jerthebear2> eduardo: cool :D I dual-boot (shame on me, but old habits die hard)
[04:09] <bazhang> sonit: what is the issue? please explain before posting a link thanks; explain what you have tried, what errors you have gotten etc
[04:09] <travisat> dmsuperman: if you have your music tagged correctly you can use easytag to sort them in your music directory
[04:09] <reya276> nickrud: /dev/sdb5: UUID="db69e123-6bb8-457b-bd7b-b10076b6ec93" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
[04:09] <yowshi> nickrud: grrr after all that effort is crashed anyway bleh noone alive ion the lincity chan
[04:10] <Scunizi> tuxus, nope.. none here
[04:10] <eduardo> jerthebear2: hahahaha
[04:10] <dmsuperman> man, the #amarok channel is dead
[04:10] <jerthebear2> eduardo: YES! hal installation worked fully
[04:10] <Odd-rationale> mindguru08: yes. there is an offtopic channel to talk about non-ubuntu related issues. #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:10] <nickrud> reya276 and if you look up at the line you gave me, that's not the same uuid. Look for that uuid in fstab , see what's wrong
[04:10] <jerthebear2> eduardo: now to install gnome and retry everything....
[04:10] <sonit> bazhang gusty just freezes , and no respanse just hard reset
[04:10] <mexican> hey guys
[04:10] <amenado> Orendafds-> how many partitions do you have?
[04:10] <spanther> heya mexican ^^
[04:10] <eduardo> jerthebear2: there you go
[04:10] <Fezzler> I switched from tube monitor to LCD flat panel and now Penguin Racer results in black screen/lock-up after resolution switches to 800x600?
[04:10] <mexican> sorry i just disconnected
[04:10] <dmsuperman> travisat, I do, and that's no problem. I just liked having my entire music folder perfectly organized by Artist/Album/XXTrack.Song Title.mp3
[04:10] <reya276> nickrud: and then what
[04:10] <dmsuperman> with great tagging
[04:10] <travisat> dmsuperman: yah I did that with mine in easytag
[04:11] <sonit> and because it freeezes no log errors
[04:11] <nickrud> reya276 depends on what's wrong. Is that uuid in the listing that blkid gave?
[04:11] <StarCraft> Can someone tell me how I can setup a partition to install windows on?
[04:11] <mexican>  anyone installed qmail want to give me a quick hand ?
[04:11] <StarCraft> Or suggest a program to use?
[04:11] <ahmad> hi
[04:11] <eduardo> ahmad: hi
[04:11] <Fezzler> Ubuntu 7.10, Nvidia GeForce FX 5500
[04:11] <mexican> please use my nick if you respond
[04:11] <zeno_> how do i fix this?:No candidate version found for dbus-1
[04:11] <reya276> nickrud: I'm going to pastebin fstab file
[04:11] <travisat> StarCraft: gparted
[04:11] <Alan_M> mexican, thats our policy, we do that anyways :)
[04:11] <jerthebear2> eduardo: thanks for your time! I have to go to sleep soon :)
[04:11] <Scunizi> StarCraft, gparted.. but you'll distroy grub and it'll hve to be reinstalled.
[04:12] <bazhang> sonit: that is not a very informative response; what exact error messages are you getting, what was happening/what were you doing when it froze, what fixes have you tried--say it freezes/its broken are not the right way to get answers either here or on the forums
[04:12] <_Silhouette_> im so confused :(
[04:12] <nickrud> reya276 do this:   give me the following:  output of  sudo lspci  and blkid and the contents of /etc/fstab
[04:12] <ahmad> i wokg run card tv in ububntu
[04:12] <eduardo> jerthebear2: no problem, i hope you learned something..
[04:12] <Fezzler> I turned off Desktop Effects and that did not solve problem.
[04:12] <thunc> eduardo: cythrawll C and me don't go well. lol
[04:12] <bwayne> oh no my ubuntu just melted!
[04:12] <bazhang> bwayne: ;]
[04:12] <spanther> ahmad, use Hauppauge Win-TV Nova-T PCI :)
[04:12] <bwayne> sudo fixit ohcrap
[04:12] <eduardo> thunc: do i know you?
[04:12] <jerthebear2> eduardo: yep... not to mess with anything that has to do with "bus"
[04:12] <nickrud> reya276 doh, I should have slept more :    sudo fdisk -l     blkid    contents of /etc/fstab
[04:12] <thunc> eduardo: who is this
[04:12] <Amaranth> bwayne: you shouldn't have thrown water on it
[04:12] <eduardo> jerthebear2: rofl
[04:12] <jerthebear2> eduardo: lol well now I can solve this kind stuff, I hope
[04:13] <sonit> bazhang , after disabling compiz less freezes, although still happens, maybe firefox, maybe graphics card (nvidia ), maybe weho knows
[04:13] <bwayne> Amaranth: what u recommend before it completely liquifies?
[04:13] <nickrud> or ordered the full meal eating the dessert first
[04:13] <eduardo> jerthebear2: yes, and if not you're always able to ask for help
[04:13] <mexican> the error is http://pastebin.com/m64659660 .  happens if i use sudo or normal priv.    i'm following these directions : http://www.qmailrocks.org/qmail.htm
[04:13] <Amaranth> bwayne: blow dryer
[04:13] <ahmad> no my tv card is SAA7130
[04:13] <jerthebear2> eduardo: thanks again, looks promising that it will work this time :D
[04:13] <dmsuperman> travisat, what's easytag?
[04:13] <bwayne> Amaranth: I think the kernel triggered fstab to eat the MBR.
[04:14] <eduardo> jerthebear2: good luck, lol
[04:14] <bazhang> sonit we would know if you gave *very* precise info; maybe who knows does not seems to reach that standard
[04:14] <jerthebear2> eduardo: that's the great part of ubuntu, the community. the bad part is having to ask the community so often :P
[04:14] <lewench> How do you install .cpkg in ubuntu?
[04:14] <lewench> !pkg
[04:14] <amenado> mexican-> at what step were you getting that error?
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pkg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <travisat> dmsuperman: gtk app to tag and sort mp3, flac, etc.  you can use the filter to rename and in renaming can make and fill new directories
[04:14] <mexican> amenado: make man && make setup check
[04:14] <eduardo> jerthebear2: well yeah everything has its pros and cons
[04:14] <jerthebear2> man apt-get install gnome takes a LONG time
[04:14] <spanther> ahmad, install software "kaffeine" if kaffeine says that no dvb-t hardware were found then you have a problem you need to download drivers when available and recompile your kernel :)
[04:14] <travisat> dmsuperman: its in the repo
[04:14] <jerthebear2> the "man" is just an expression
[04:15] <dmsuperman> travisat, ah, I used MP3 Tag Tools, a freeware windoze app. It was great to use :D
[04:15] <linkinxp> is there any GTk- manager?
[04:15] <reya276> nickrud: this is fdisk output (http://www.pastebin.org/28916)
[04:15] <bwayne> what's the ubuntu chat channel name again?
[04:15] <ahmad> PLZ i wold run Tv card or DVB card  / I dvb card is sky star2
[04:15] <eduardo> jerthebear2: yea lots of packages
[04:15] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic bwayne
[04:15] <dmsuperman> how can i get the response of a webpage in the commandline?
[04:15] <bwayne> thx
[04:15] <mexican> jerthebear2: pardon?
[04:16] <travisat> dmsuperman: yah there are better windows tools for mp3 library management
[04:16] <reya276> nickrud: blockid (http://www.pastebin.org/28917)
[04:16] <mexican> jerthebear2: it's real difficult for me to read if it's not highlighted i have this window very small
[04:16] <dmsuperman> basically: how can I get http://whatismyip.org/'s result in commandline
[04:16] <lewench> How do you install .cpkg in ubuntu?
[04:16] <spanther> ahmad, technisat skystar 2 ?
[04:16] <mexican> dmsuperman: you wnat to know your ip?
[04:16] <mexican> dmsuperman: in termianL?
[04:16] <jerthebear2> eduardo: lol I said "man apt-get install gnome takes a LONG time" and then "the 'man' in that phrase is just an expression", as in, not the manual pages
[04:16] <amenado> mexican  did you have a chance to look at the script?
[04:16] <centaur5> I get access denied when trying to add windows xp to a samba domain. What would cause this when machine and user are added?
[04:17] <dmsuperman> mexican, yes
[04:17] <Lucky2> we have any pgsql kings here? Have a seriously annoying multiple query prob that I was hoping someone could help me with :(
[04:17] <_Silhouette_> eduardo: how do I fix this?
[04:17] <reya276> nickrud: http://www.pastebin.org/28918
[04:17] <eduardo> jerthebear2: yes, that's what i thought since the first time i read it lol
[04:17] <ahmad> yas Sky star 2 Pci
[04:17] <tuxus> dmsuperman: how about ping [domain name]
[04:17] <dmsuperman> mexican, but i ONLY want my ip returned, no extra data, and my external ip
[04:17] <mexican> amenado: no sorry havent yet slash im pretty knew to linux
[04:17] <lewench> How do you install .cpkg in ubuntu? Anyone??
[04:17] <longmanzz> d
[04:17] <jerthebear2> eduardo: nvm thought u msged me thought it was sum1 else XD
[04:17] <dmsuperman> i'm using it for a hotstring
[04:17] <sonit> bazhang, i think it's knows issue so I just wanted to mention it here. It just freezes without been able to understand the exact issue. because it freezes i can;t have the logs. just hard reset.  I don't try to fing the reason, just expecting next release. maybe problematic hardware configuration. maybe problematic software combination, nobody knows, as you can see in ubuntu forums
[04:17] <jerthebear2> mexican: lol I said "man apt-get install gnome takes a LONG time" and then "the 'man' in that phrase is just an expression", as in, not the manual pages
[04:17] <mexican> dmsuperman: ohhh, i odnt know that sorry
[04:18] <ahmad> Driver is good but idont now stting in any program in run this
[04:18] <eduardo> _Silhouette_: im sorry im not sure i understand whats going on with your comp
[04:18] <spanther> ahmad, install the program Kaffeine that works well
[04:18] <tuxus> dmsuperman: how about ping [domain name]
[04:18] <_Silhouette_> :(
[04:18] <ePax> TubbyCat: ping -c 3 domain.name
[04:18] <linkinxp> how i apply a emerald theme???
[04:18] <ePax> ups wrong nick
[04:18] <tuxus> that will give you an ip - or isn't that what you're looking for?
[04:18] <Fezzler> I switched from tube monitor to LCD flat panel and now Penguin Racer results in black screen/lock-up after resolution switches to 800x600?
[04:18] <amenado> mexican do you have this directory ? /usr/src/qmail/qmail-1.03
[04:18] <eduardo> sonit: are you getting random freezes?
[04:19] <lewench> How do you install .cpkg in ubuntu?
[04:19] <jerthebear2> eduardo: crap
[04:19] <ahmad> ok im install Kaffeine but i dont now stting this program
[04:19] <eduardo> jerthebear2: woot?
[04:19] <mexican> amenado: yeah i do, and i'm in it when i issue the command
[04:19] <ePax> tuxus: You can do "host domain.name" and you will get up without "
[04:19] <jerthebear2> eduardo: back to where I started... I can log in, but network and system prefs stil don't work
[04:19] <spanther> ahmad, it's easy
[04:19] <eduardo> lewench: try to google that im sure you'll find the exact instuctions
[04:19] <tuxus> Fezzler: is your monitor properly identified in your config?
[04:19] <sonit> bazhang, just take alook here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=587905&page=63    , 60 pages without a clue about the exact reason
[04:19] <ePax> linkinxp: You have to install emerald theme menager
[04:19] <lewench> eduardo, doing that now.
[04:19] <jerthebear2> eduardo: educational day though, thanks, i'll see you around, bye
[04:19] <Fezzler> tuxus: Yes.  Acer AL511
[04:19] <nickrud> reya276 and /etc/fstab ?
[04:19] <linkinxp> ePax:  done
[04:19] <jerthebear2> ok bye all
[04:20] <eduardo> jerthebear2: lol ok
[04:20] <linkinxp> ePax:  i click on the theme and nothing happens
[04:20] <eduardo> jerthebear2: good luck
[04:20] <sonit> eduardo, yes
[04:20] <tuxus> fezzler: problems with any other apps?
[04:20] <ahmad> ok its easy but i dont now
[04:20] <amenado> mexican did you run the script qmail_big_patches.script?
[04:20] <eduardo> sonit: are you using 7.10?
[04:20] <bazhang> sonit heh thanks; 60 pages; please pastebin your sources.list
[04:20] <ahmad> PLZ help me
[04:20] <Boohbah> Fezzler: perhaps your monitor doen't support 800x600, or it isn't listed in xorg.conf
[04:20] <spanther> ahmad wait i'll look
[04:20] <ePax> linkinxp: Open emerald theme menager and add your theme from there
[04:20] <reya276> nickrud: http://www.pastebin.org/28919
[04:20] <travisat> dmsuperman: you try traceroute?
[04:20] <linkinxp> ePax:  i did
[04:20] <ahmad> ok man
[04:20] <sonit> esuardo yes
[04:20] <Fezzler> Nope, but I don't do much with this PC.  Recommend a test?
[04:20] <bazhang> !helpme | ahmad
[04:20]  * Antti !weather, !kernel, !sysinfo, !sms
[04:20] <ubotu> ahmad: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[04:21] <ePax> linkinxp: Did you apply to use that theme in theme menager?
[04:21] <tuxus> Fezzler: what's in your xorg.conf?
[04:21] <eduardo> sonit: are u getting normal freezes or kernel panic?
[04:21] <Fezzler> Boo: After freeze up montor controls says monitor is in 800x600 res.
[04:21] <mexican> amenado: yeah
[04:21] <bazhang> sonit pastebin sources.list please
[04:21] <nickrud> reya276 ok, first thing is hdd1 doesn't exist anymore. That's where the error about no such uuid/device comes from. Comment or delete line 8
[04:21] <sonit> eduardo, I don't know the difference.
[04:22] <tuxus> Fezzler: check your xorg.conf against what the monitor actually can support and make sure you have the proper drivers for your graphics cardd
[04:22] <amenado> mexican-> how about this qmr_install_linux-s1.script ?
[04:22] <mexican> amenado them both, and got the okay
[04:22] <Fezzler> tuxux: One second.  Please recommend Terminal command to read xorg.conf?
[04:22] <amenado> mexican you have a solaris?
[04:22] <spanther> ahmad, start kaffeine go settings -> configure dvb-t
[04:22] <dmsuperman> travisat, i know how to get my ip
[04:22] <eduardo> sonit: when it freezes do your keyboard lights flash?
[04:22] <mexican> amenado: what is solaris ?
[04:22] <travisat> dmsuperman: ah
[04:22] <dmsuperman> travisat, i just want a way to get a command to return _just_ my ip
[04:22] <mexican> amenado: prob a no
[04:22] <mexican> haha
[04:22] <Scunizi> Fezzler, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:23] <travisat> dmsuperman: that is the beauty of a static ip
[04:23] <reya276> nickrud: you are sure that is not my ubuntu boot drive right?
[04:23] <hexoroid> is there an easy way to delete all files in one folder like in html folder i am currently in it
[04:23] <mexican> dmsuperman: are you having trouble sifting through the info?
[04:23] <linkinxp> ePax:  how u save in Nano?
[04:23] <amenado> mexican you have to read the instructions..that script was for a solaris ..so maybe the steps are not for ubuntu ?
[04:23] <dmsuperman> travisat, i'm making a hotstring so when i type like ;ip; it will backspace to remove ;ip; and execute the command and type the output
[04:23] <tuxus> Fezzler: be careful - that recommendation will let you EDIT it - maybe first read it with 'cat'
[04:23] <luxet__> just exit nano
[04:23] <dmsuperman> mexican, it can't have any extra output, only the ip
[04:23] <ahmad> I dont new stting any program for Tv card or dvb card in Ubuntu 7.10 my hardwere is TV CARD SAA7130 and DVB card is sky star 2
[04:23] <dmsuperman> the way i know how to do this is
[04:23] <sonit> esurdo no rsponse ijn keybord , as oot was before freeze, it just stays that way
[04:23] <mitch31122> linuxp:
[04:23] <hexoroid> is there an easy way to delete all files in one folder like in html folder i am currently in it
[04:23] <dmsuperman> print directly the output from http://whatismyip.org/
[04:23] <mexican> amenado: i clicked the debian part
[04:23]  * eduardo BRB
[04:23] <dmsuperman> so, my question is
[04:23] <mitch31122> linuxp: ctrl-o
[04:24] <spanther> oh my god -.-
[04:24] <nickrud> reya276 no, uuid=ae...4be is your ubuntu root, you see where it lists    /    as the mount point? It's now known as sda1 by the way.
[04:24] <dmsuperman> how can i get the data from http://whatismyip.org/
[04:24] <Scunizi> Fezzler, tuxus or just nano without the sudo will let you read it without editing priv. too.
[04:24] <dmsuperman> in command line
[04:24] <spanther> sorry i cant help ahmad........
[04:24] <travisat> dmsuperman: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-check-you-external-ip-address-from-the-command-line.html
[04:24] <nickrud> reya276 let me do some more comparisons from your outptu
[04:24] <reya276> nickrud: oh I see
[04:24] <jrib> dmsuperman: wget -q -O - http://whatismyip.org
[04:24] <tawt> does anyone use ipod-linux?  does anyone like it?
[04:24] <tuxus> Scuzini: treu
[04:24] <amenado> mexican just curious just type  make man
[04:24] <tuxus> *true
[04:24] <ePax> linkinxp: Why do you need nano? Download theme and if its compressed .tar.gz then uncompress so that it get its extenstion .emerald then open emerald theme menager and add your theme and apply to use it.
[04:24] <spanther> ahmad, sorry but your english is bad
[04:24] <bazhang> sonit you posted your sources.list? please do so thanks
[04:24] <mexican> make: *** No rule to make target `man'.  Stop.
[04:24] <travisat> dmsuperman: hmm doesn't seem to work
[04:25] <mexican> amenado:  above ^
[04:25] <Scunizi> tuxus, the other way.. (there's lots of them of course) is to install pastbinit
[04:25] <amenado> mexican->  what is above?
[04:25] <Sam827> when I try to boot ubuntu it says something about please insert bootable media
[04:25] <mexican> amenado: make: *** No rule to make target `man'.  Stop.
[04:25] <linkinxp> ePax:  doesnt have an apply button check this! http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=73390&forumpage=0
[04:25] <tawt> does anyone use ipod-linux?  does anyone like it?
[04:25] <tuxus> Sam827: you mean boot the live CD will tell you this?
[04:26] <linkinxp> ePax:  the instructions says to add a line to make emerald work
[04:26] <amenado> mexican which directory are you at? type  pwd
[04:26] <dmsuperman> travisat, i think that's it, thanks :d
[04:26] <Fezzler> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62798/
[04:26] <Sam827> tuxus: no I already installed
[04:26] <sonit>  eduardo no response in keyboard , as it was before freeze, it just stays that way
[04:26] <linkinxp> now the question its can i use Emerald and the beauty of compiz? together?
[04:26] <sonit> bazhang i posted to you privately
[04:26] <ePax> linkinxp: Hold on one sec
[04:26] <Fezzler> xorg.conf content
[04:26] <Scunizi> tuxus, if you've never used pastbinit the syntax allows pasting a file directly to pastbin and it returns a link. cat <file> | pastbinit -b http://pastbin.com
[04:26] <thunc> ePax: one of what? a smaw? idk
[04:26] <trippss> ok i am seriously getting sick of killing and restarting FF every 5 minutes. started after last update
[04:26] <bazhang> sonit post in channel thanks; we can all learn then
[04:26] <linkinxp> ePax:  ok
[04:26] <reya276> nickrud: this worked now sudo umount /dev/sdb5 && sudo mount -a
[04:26] <eduardo> sonit, i had the same issue but with ubuntu 8.04 i downgraded to 7.10 and now im doing just fine
[04:26] <travisat> dmsuperman: I think whatsmyip changed formats
[04:27] <mexican> amenado: i was in the /usrsrc/qmail dir
[04:27] <CK_MY> how to convert rm file to avi ?
[04:27] <eduardo> sonit, idk how to fix it in 7.10
[04:27] <reya276> nickrud: and it also applied the chmod 777
[04:27] <sonit> eduardo maybe if i upgrade to 8.04  i ll be ok :-)
[04:27] <jrib> travisat: with .org, you won't have the issue: wget -q -O - http://whatismyip.org
[04:27] <bazhang> Scunizi: just piping to pastebinit will yield a url as well
[04:27] <amenado> mexican wrong.. you are supposed to be at /usr/src/qmail/qmail-1.03
[04:27] <travisat> jrib: ahh
[04:27] <reya276> nickrud: thanks, U Rock!
[04:27] <dmsuperman> travisat, it doesn't matter
[04:27] <Alan_M> sonit, not suggested right now.
[04:27] <dmsuperman> http://whatismyip.org is the best
[04:27] <spanther> ahmad, http://www.linux.com/feature/127800
[04:27] <dmsuperman> no html at all
[04:27] <slimjimflim> whenever i look at my home page with lynx, i get roxen's default page instead of mine, served by apache.  I'm running xubuntu gutsy and have disabled the service and removed the package can anyone help?
[04:27] <Alan_M> sonit, wait till the release day
[04:27] <dmsuperman> just the ip
[04:27] <nickrud> reya276 good. I'm cleaning up your fstab a bit, I'll post it later
[04:27] <FloodBot1> dmsuperman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:27] <Alan_M> !hardy | sonit
[04:27] <ubotu> sonit: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:27] <Scunizi> bazhang, what's the syntax for that?
[04:27] <mexican> amenado: that's what  i meant
[04:27] <reya276> ok thanks
[04:27] <CK_MY> how to convert rm file to avi file ? mencoder din work for me
[04:28] <mexican> that's where i was when i typed it and got make: Nothing to be done for `man'.
[04:28] <tuxus> Scuzini: You got me mixed up with another person.. I'm not asking to paste-bin - perhaps you're trying to assist Fezzler?
[04:28] <reya276> nickrud: ok thanks
[04:28] <eduardo> sonit: i dont think so, 8.04 is still very unstable
[04:28] <Scunizi> bazhang, cat <file> | pastbinit ?
[04:28] <amenado> mexican-> I am not a mind reader, so you have to be clear and specific. :)
[04:28] <ePax> linkinxp: Try to use vi or pico instead of nano. Sorry but im not so good with it. With pico you can save with ctrl +q and save or with vi you can save with :wq
[04:28] <bazhang> Scunizi: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit is enough for example
[04:28] <Sam827> tuxus!
[04:28] <spanther> eduardo, how can you know? 8.04 isnt out yet :)
[04:28] <mexican> amenado: i apologize, and thank you so far!
[04:28] <eduardo> spanther: the beta version
[04:28] <Scunizi> bazhang, good to learn more things.. thanks!
[04:28] <tuxus> Sam827: what
[04:28] <Fezzler> tuxus: you asked to see xorg.conf
[04:28] <linkinxp> ePax:  i saved it but nothing happens i click in the theme and nothing happens
[04:29] <luxet__> you can froce upgade to 8.04 beta
[04:29] <bazhang> Scunizi: ;]
[04:29] <spanther> eduardo, ah lol :)
[04:29] <dmsuperman> spanther: which would mean it's by definition unstable :P
[04:29] <Sam827> tuxus: u were helping me
[04:29] <zeyar> how can i set up evolutioin ?
[04:29] <amenado> mexican->  id like you to paste in pastebin including the prompt when you type cd /usr/src/qmail/qmail-1.03
[04:29] <amenado> make man && make setup check
[04:29] <spanther> dmsuperman, yeah xD
[04:29] <tuxus> Fezzler: you got the output?
[04:29] <bazhang> sonit still waiting for the sources.list thanks
[04:29] <sonit> Alan_M, ubotu, eduardo , i will wait, until then, without compiz and 3d tricks, 1 freeze a day is just afortable
[04:29] <Sam827> then u just left
[04:29] <dmsuperman> woot!
[04:29] <ePax> linkinxp: Do you have your 3D desktop setting enabled?
[04:29] <spanther> but 8.04 is other than 8.04 beta ! :)  8.04 wont be unstable when its out
[04:29] <tuxus> zeyar: have you tried clicking the icon and follow the wizard?
[04:29] <Fezzler> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62798/
[04:29] <zeyar> yeah
[04:29] <dmsuperman> travisat, typing ''ip now outputs 75.185.4.94
[04:29] <sonit> bazhang , please tell me how to post the sources.list
[04:29] <dmsuperman> travisat, woot!
[04:30] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for hardy discussion folks thanks
[04:30] <zeyar> i couldn't set  it up
[04:30] <linkinxp> ePax:  yes
[04:30] <luxet__> atm 8.04 isnt so solid true
[04:30] <eduardo> baxhang, let us be
[04:30] <amenado> !hardy | luxet__
[04:30] <ubotu> luxet__: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:30] <hexoroid> is there an easy way to delete all files in one folder like in html folder i am currently in it
[04:30] <Fezzler> tuxus: Monitor manual says it does 800x600
[04:30] <Alan_M> spanther, it will be considered stable when its out, but..like bazhang said, lets move the hardy discussions to ubuntu+1
[04:30] <bazhang> eduardo: sorry rules be rules
[04:30] <sonit> bazhang : cat /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:30] <CK_MY> anyone how to convert rm file to avi file ? mencoder din work for me , ANY Software which has GUI ?
[04:30] <ePax> linkinxp: Then i realy dont know what problem can be. Read under the download theme if someone have hade similar problem. Or just pick another .emerald theme and try it.
[04:30] <spanther> Alan_M, i never wanted a discussion about it anyways :P
[04:30] <luxet__> yes I know its hardy
[04:30] <eduardo> bazhang: meh
[04:31] <luxet__> i had it but was really unstable
[04:31] <mexican> amenado: http://pastebin.com/m48a6ecd1
[04:31] <eduardo> well im outtie
[04:31] <eduardo> bye all!!
[04:31] <linkinxp> ePax:  im on it thanks anyway
[04:31] <tuxus> Fezzler: LCD's, afaik only will produce optimal output with a certian resolution. That's a downside that's almost never brought up.
[04:31] <zeyar> plz,
[04:31] <bazhang> sonit sudo apt-get install pastebinit then the command you just listed with a pipe ( | ) to pastebinit; cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit ; then just paste the url here thanks
[04:31] <Fezzler> tuxus: so you think it is the LCD?
[04:32] <tuxus> Fezzler: I'd suggest use the ideal setting, most likely the highest res, and comment out all other mode lines for starters
[04:32] <mexican> amenado: am i doing something wrong>? i was gogoling some stuff and i read a forum that a guy said not all debian installs work for ubuntu
[04:32] <amenado> mexican without knowing what the Makefile targets are, its impossible to assist you
[04:32] <zeyar> who can give the suggestion?
[04:32] <Fezzler> ok
[04:32] <nickrud> reya276 http://www.pastebin.org/28922 look it over, make sure you understand everything in it before using it
[04:32] <regeya> anyone recommend a decent yet cheap ups?  just came back into the room to find my computer off...hate spring, hate stormy weather, getting tired of these jolly power flickers that are just long enough to shut my equipment down :->
[04:32] <mexican> amenado: no prob
[04:32] <amenado> mexican-> thats correct
[04:32] <mexican> amenado: thank you though
[04:32] <Creationist> I'm having a problem closing a program (Frostwire).  Not even the kill command works.  Any ideas?
[04:32] <dotech> regeya: $100 is about what it costs
[04:32] <bazhang> regeya that might be better answered in the hardware channel
[04:32] <reya276> nickrud: ok
[04:32] <Sam827> when I try to boot ubuntu, it tells me please insert bootable media
[04:33] <Sam827> any ideas?
[04:33] <Starnestommy> Creationist: what about kill -9 <pid>?
[04:33] <regeya> thank goodness for journaling filesystems, though.
[04:33] <linkinxp> ePax:  i got it in console emerald --replace :D
[04:33] <spencer> when I use the update manager it causes my internet connection to die
[04:33] <_Silhouette_> does anyone know how to get ubuntu to install properly from the boot cd?
[04:33] <regeya> creationist: do a ps -ax | grep java
[04:33] <amenado> Sam827-> so do it, insert a bootable media
[04:33] <jojo4> is Radeon 3450 512MB video card compatible with Ubuntu?
[04:33] <ePax> linkinxp: Nice. So that was the problem. :D
[04:33] <bazhang> Sam827: disable the cd media as a repo source then try again after refreshing/reloading your sources
[04:33] <regeya> creationist: you may be able to kill frostwire by killing the java process running it
[04:33] <khakane> stupid xmins and remote X
[04:33] <ePax> !ati | jojo4
[04:33] <ubotu> jojo4: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:33] <reya276> nickrud: I have an external 500GB hard drive this won't affect accessing it right? meaning the cleanup on this fstab file
[04:33] <Alan_M> sam827, do you have a floppy disk in your drive? (going through every possible thing)
[04:33] <amenado> _Silhouette_-> trying liveCD or the alternate cd?
[04:34] <tuxus> jojo4: yes, but if I have a choice, I'd take nVidia any day over ATI;'s
[04:34] <_Silhouette_> amenado: live CD
[04:34] <Sam827> alan m no
[04:34] <linkinxp> ePax:  jajajajja but when i close the console it goes back ajajajaajajaja
[04:34] <nickrud> reya276 no, if it's not listed in the fstab it will be automounted when you plug it in
[04:34] <regeya> Thanks to os x I have developed a healthy hatred of frostwire...if it's running when I log out it cancels logout every time.
[04:34] <Creationist> Starnestommy: Nope... but I'll try regeya's suggestion
[04:34] <_Silhouette_> amenado: it's an older computer if it matters.
[04:34] <amenado> _Silhouette_-> what errors are you getting if any? maybe your system can not handle liveCD , you have to use alternate cd
[04:34] <jojo4> why is NVidia better than Ati?
[04:34] <ePax> linkinxp: You might need to do --replace command with root. sudo -i and type it.
[04:35] <bwayne> is there an ubuntu studio room?
[04:35] <_Silhouette_> amenado: no errors, just boots to a blank, pink screen after loading
[04:35] <bazhang> jojo4: better driver support at the moment
[04:35] <spanther> oh my god 8.04 goes black orange? .....
[04:35] <amenado> _Silhouette_-> how old is old? what are the specs? did you read at ubuntu wiki for minimum requirements
[04:35] <sonit> bazhang http://paste.stgraber.org/2368
[04:35] <jojo4> O.K.
[04:35] <bazhang> bwayne aye; #ubuntustudio iirc
[04:35] <_Silhouette_> amenado: around windows ME era
[04:35] <Creationist> regeya: That did it.  But the ps -ax command gave syntax errors :)
[04:35] <linkinxp> ePax:  what? lmao -i?
[04:35] <regeya> jojo4: there are a number of reasons, but what bazhang said...someday someone else will have the honor but right now it's nvidia
[04:35] <icesword> how to remove xorg and install again?
[04:35] <_Silhouette_> but I think it meets min. specs
[04:35] <Alan_M> bwayne, #ubuntustudio
[04:35] <regeya> hehe creationist
[04:35] <thunc> regeya: this doesn't work with strings longer than 32
[04:35] <bwayne> bazhang:  i prefer colloquy
[04:35] <amenado> _Silhouette_-> i dont keep track of windows release dates..so dont know
[04:35] <spencer> when I use the update manager it causes my internet connection to die
[04:35] <regeya> Creationist: sorry, that should be ps ax
[04:36] <regeya> I do hang on to my deprecated behavior
[04:36] <_Silhouette_> amenado: about 2000
[04:36] <amenado> spencer-> how so? what exactly happens?
[04:36] <ePax> linkinxp: That will add root priviledges to your user account to execute command. Instead of su.
[04:36] <LSG> Does anyone remember where in the adv. settings is the option to have the windows separate from the cube on rotation with Compiz-Fusion?
[04:36] <icesword> how to remove xorg and install again?
[04:36] <linkinxp> ePax:  i know sudo  but it does the same
[04:36] <Intangir> hey im using wine. apparently the ubuntu packaged version of wine doesnt allow me to use jack audio?
[04:36] <tuxus> icesword: why would you want to?
[04:36] <Intangir> anynone know how to get around this
[04:36] <bazhang> sonit you have almost no sources; try removing the # marks from in front of most of those then reloading/refreshing and trying again
[04:36] <Sam827> my ubuntu install will not boot. it just displays insert bootable media
[04:36] <amenado> _Silhouette_->  maybe your system can not handle liveCD , you have to use alternate cd
[04:36] <icesword> tuxus, my xorg.conf is broken
[04:36] <spencer> I open update manager tell it to install some updates it starts to download the first few files and just dies
[04:37] <tuxus> Sam827: what is your bios set to boot from?
[04:37] <spencer> the light on the card stays on
[04:37] <reya276> nickrud: oh, again U Rock sir, thanks
[04:37] <ePax> linkinxp: Yes it does. I'm just use to do sudo -i. I think i was told that its kinda "safe" way.
[04:37] <_Silhouette_> amenado: okay, I will try that.
[04:37] <spencer> and i already tried sudo apt-get update
[04:37] <_Silhouette_> thanks.
[04:37] <bazhang> Sam827: you tried what I suggested yet? please pastebin your sources.list to see if that is the issue
[04:37] <spencer> and then when i did sudo apt-get upgrade that kills the internet connection too
[04:37] <nickrud> reya276 glad to help. Now:  #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1  :p
[04:37] <amenado> _Silhouette_-> you're welcome, come back again
[04:37] <prettyricky> Is ubuntu 8.04 out already??
[04:37] <Sam827> tuxus: I'm on a mac and I'm using refit.
[04:38] <bazhang> 14 days prettyricky
[04:38] <Starnestommy> prettyricky: not until the 24th
[04:38] <tuxus> icesword: then fix it: from a terminal, sudo dpkge-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:38] <Sam827> wheels sources. list
[04:38] <prettyricky> oh cool cant wait@!!!
[04:38] <ePax> prettyricky: Just beta version is out.
[04:38] <luxet__> whats the channel for hardy guys?
[04:38] <regeya> yay 14 days until we all get to sort out various issues...bwahahaha
[04:38] <Starnestommy> luxet__: #ubuntu+1
[04:38] <luxet__> thank you
[04:38] <regeya> !ubuntu+1
[04:38] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:38] <reya276> nickrud: I know, I though it would be quicker to get an answer here as those guys are deep in bugs man, seriously
[04:38] <tuxus> sam827: dunno anything about refit
[04:38] <bazhang> prettyricky: neither can we; redirecting everyone to #ubuntu+1 is the main job here these days ;[
[04:38] <icesword> tuxus, no doesn't work,it won't let me change resolution and refresh rate and configure graphic card and select drivers
[04:38] <linkinxp> ePax:  i got it look at what they said in compiz fusion <Jupiter> linkinxp: emerald --replace & disown
[04:39] <tuxus> icesword: it will write a fresh xorg.conf file
[04:39] <LSG> Is Hardy gonna be LTS?
[04:39] <prettyricky> lol
[04:39] <bazhang> lsg yes
[04:39] <linkinxp> !lts
[04:39] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[04:39] <tuxus> icesword: drivers come after that
[04:39] <LSG> bazhang: Sweet
[04:39] <Sam827> tuxus: end goal is it will boot into watever OS is available
[04:39] <icesword> tuxus, no option to select that
[04:39] <tuxus> icesword: what do you mean?
[04:39] <prettyricky> would we be able to get it at ubuntu.com
[04:40] <bazhang> Sam827: until you do the steps we recommend then no real help possible
[04:40] <icesword> tuxus, no options to configure my graphic card and screen
[04:40] <tuxus> icesword: so when you do the command I suggested, what happens?
[04:40] <bazhang> prettyricky: yes after the release in 15 days
[04:40] <Sam827> bazhang: wat steps? I may have missed them
[04:40] <Dr_Link> It's confusing making an Ubuntu liveusb
[04:41] <bazhang> Sam827: does your irc client have the scroll up function?
[04:41] <icesword> tuxus, a window pop up,ask me to select keboard and something else
[04:41] <prettyricky> cool, would it be wise to install ubuntu 8.04 by it self or can we dual boot 7.10 with it
[04:41] <tuxus> icesword, thats right, keep going
[04:41] <Sam827> not past like 20 messages
[04:41] <symptom> anyone know if there are linux drivers for a xircom cwe1100 wireless card?
[04:41] <tuxus> icesword: you could start by accepting the defaults
[04:42] <tuxus> symptom: have you Googled?
[04:42] <bazhang> Sam827: have to step out, perhaps someone can help you to disable cd media from your sources list
[04:42] <icesword> tuxus, i tried that many times,no options for me to choose screen etc...didn't work
[04:42] <tuxus> icesword: hmmm
[04:42] <symptom> tuxus: yes
[04:42] <symptom> tuxus: nada
[04:42] <Alan_M> bazhang...i...nevermind they left.
[04:43] <bazhang> prettyricky: please dont ask me to redirect you ;]
[04:43] <bazhang> Alan_M: thanks!
[04:43] <Alan_M> sam827, im taking over from where bazhang left off :)
[04:43] <tuxus> icesword: it won't give you an option to select screen type "A" from manufacturer "so-and-so", but what DO you get?
[04:43] <Sam827> bazgang: I'm back
[04:43] <Alan_M> im not quite sure what were doing but i know how to do at least this one step. :)
[04:43] <bazhang> bazgang? ;[
[04:43] <icesword> tuxus, choose keyboard and something i don't remember
[04:43] <mzuverink> does anyone know where Gutsy puts the palm pilot, I looked in /dev/palm and such but no luck
[04:44] <Alan_M> haha poor baz :)
[04:44] <Sam827> bazhang: can you repost the steps
[04:44] <Sam827> plz
[04:44] <tuxus> mzuverink: you'll prolly have to make a symlink
[04:44] <Sam827> sry bout autocorrect
[04:44] <Alan_M> sam827, what are we doing again? (refresh my memory as im taking over from where bazhang left off)
[04:44] <tuxus> mzuverink: google for "symlink linux palm"
[04:44] <chris062689> If I'm using an EeePC, people are saying to put your /usr directery on a SDcard?
[04:45] <bazhang> really have to go this time sam827; sorry about that--not a tough problem to solve though
[04:45] <dmsuperman> whoever suggested bluefish earlier, you own
[04:45] <dmsuperman> bluefish ftw
[04:45] <Alan_M> baz, heh, thanks for giving me an easy one :P
[04:45] <mzuverink> tuxus, so just make an entry as /dev/palm, what do I link it to, I cant find what it is called now, dont I have to have something for the symlink to link too?
[04:45] <kadko> Hello how can i change my Icons by others?
[04:45] <izinucs> Alan_M, all he needs to do is comment out the cd rom in sources.list
[04:46] <Sam827> Alan M: my ubunu install says insert bootable media wen I try to start it up
[04:46] <Alan_M> izinucs, ah, ok thank you for informing me :)
[04:46] <Alan_M> sam827, ok, lets do it this way, do you know what a terminal is?
[04:46] <Sam827> yep
[04:46] <sonit> bazhang http://paste.stgraber.org/2369    , now updating.
[04:47] <LSG> kadko: Go to System-Preferences-Appearance, and then customize
[04:47] <Sam827> alan m yep
[04:47] <Alan_M> sam827, open one up, and type gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:47] <LSG> kadko: You can choose the icon scheme you want there
[04:47] <Shuggle> my laptop just powered down without notice. how can i find out what happened?
[04:47] <Sam827> alan m ok
[04:47] <tuxus> Shuggle: ask it?
[04:48] <ahmad_> plz i need satting prog Elisa for watch TV or DVB
[04:48] <tuxus> Shuggle: seriously: was it running on battery and batt went dead?
[04:48] <Shuggle> no, plugged in
[04:48] <Shuggle> connected, full charge too
[04:48] <rycole> does ubuntu use a modified ldconfig ?
[04:48] <tuxus> Shuggle: overheating?
[04:49] <kadko> LSG: But if i want to add icons who i downloaded?
[04:49] <Alan_M> Sam827, when the file opens up, find any reference to cd and put a # in front of it.
[04:49] <Shuggle> not that i can tell. i always arrange for the fans
[04:49] <LSG> kadko: If you want to use a custom set of icons, you need to copy them via console (you need permissions) to /usr/share/icons
[04:49] <Sam827> h/I
[04:49] <tuxus> Shuggle: will it power back up?
[04:49] <Sam827> h/o
[04:49] <LSG> kadko: Then they'll show up in the list at "Customize" where you went before
[04:49] <Shuggle> tuxus:  yeah, i'm on it now
[04:49] <Alan_M> it should say something like "cd: something" Sam827
[04:49] <clever> !grub
[04:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:50] <Shuggle> tuxus: it's like nothing happened
[04:50] <Alan_M> sam827 in the lines you need to comment out.
[04:50] <tuxus> Shuggle: I'd put my money on a hardware issue
[04:50] <linuxpoet> Just a note, the Novaltel USB EVDO sprint modem works perfectly with Ubuntu
[04:50] <Sam827> alan m gksu command not
[04:50] <tuxus> Shuggle: or was the laptop sitting idle when it happened?
[04:50] <Sam827> found
[04:50] <Shuggle> tuxus:  i just got it replaced from the factory :(
[04:51] <kadko> LSG: Example I have my icons unpacked on my desktop i need to move to that librrary i need to put in the console sudo cp /home/kadko/Desktop/Icons to /usr/share/icons?
[04:51] <tuxus> Shuggle: send it back
[04:51] <Alan_M> sam827, ok, then try sudo gedit etc/apt/sources.list
[04:51] <LSG> kadko: That's right
[04:51] <Shuggle> tuxus: no, i was watching something on flash and instant messaging
[04:51] <tuxus> Shuggle: how about putting any Linux cd in it, boot from it, and run a mem test? those are nice 'n lengthy, and make the system work
[04:51] <tuxus> Shuggle: see what happens
[04:52] <Sam827> gedit ain't there either
[04:52] <LSG> kadko: Once they're copied properly to /usr/share/icons, go back to where i first told you (close and open if you didn't close it) and you'll have the option to choose your custom icons
[04:52] <Alan_M> Sam827, your on Ubuntu?
[04:52] <Shuggle> tuxus: i've done that once already (i don't trust cheap ram). do you think that it would change anything, other than heating it up?
[04:52] <kadko> LSG: Tnx :D
[04:52] <Sam827> no, as I said, it won't boot
[04:52] <LSG> kadko: No problem =)
[04:52] <mzuverink> tuxus, I read it and again I need to know the existing mount point which I cannot figure out, I have looked all over /dev
[04:52] <Sam827> alan should I use the cd
[04:53] <tuxus> Shuggle: nope, mem-test won't affect hardware or software
[04:53] <Alan_M> sam827, i wasnt here for that i dont think.....uh..
[04:53] <travisat> if anything I have had memtest fix a stick of memory
[04:53] <Sam827> ok
[04:53] <Shuggle> tuxus: i meant, would you think that my ram might have gone bad since the test
[04:53] <ahmad_> not any user ubuntu any server help me and any web
[04:53] <tuxus> mzuverink: USB or Serial connection?
[04:53] <Alan_M> sam827, I hate to be rude and pass you off again, but can anybody else take over for sam827 thats been here the whole time?
[04:54] <tuxus> Shuggle: It could be. Any hardware can fail, however, mem-test would not have CAUSED it to become bad
[04:54] <mzuverink> tuxus, usb
[04:54] <Sam827> alan wen start my comp choose my ubuntu all it shows is insert bootable media
[04:54] <Alan_M> Sam827, how old is this ubuntu installation?
[04:54] <tuxus> mzuverink: what palm software are you using?
[04:54] <khakane> there must not be a way to to XDMCP over NAT
[04:55] <Sam827> just made
[04:55] <Alan_M> sam827, try reinstalling ubuntu.
[04:55] <Shuggle> tuxus: well, i guess i'll be gone for a bit. i'm really unhappy with hp laptops
[04:55] <Sam827> ugh. ok
[04:55] <LSG> sam827: Did you burn it yourself or is it an original copy?
[04:55] <sonit> bazhang thank you for responding , go to sleep now
[04:55] <khakane> unless anyone knows how to make it work with iptables
[04:55] <Kamir[ISSF]> Little lost here. I want to use DeeVeeDee for DVDs but can not find anywhere to install it
[04:55] <Sam827> burnt meself
[04:55] <ahmad_> I wold prog watch Tv whith Tv  card or DVB card
[04:55] <Alan_M> sam827, did you check the ISO before burning? Is the md5 checksum right?
[04:56] <LSG> sam827: Any chance something screwed up the burning process?
[04:56] <Ardin> ok, simple question. Is there a way to change the picture that shows when i boot up?
[04:56] <Alan_M> LSG, going for that right now :D
[04:56] <Sam827> prolly not
[04:56] <Alan_M> Great minds think alike lsg :)
[04:56] <mzuverink> tuxus, I am not sure I just bout it, supposed to be the best one they make so probably the most current
[04:56] <LSG> Alan_M: Haha, that's what they say! =)
[04:56] <Sam827> I'll check the md5 though
[04:56] <tuxus> Ardin: ... I assume you don't mean installing another distro is an option :)
[04:57] <Ardin> tuxus: no, i just want to make a custom one. the UbuntuStudio one is boring now
[04:57] <Alan_M> sam827, is there any chance that I could get you to try burning it again and maybe doing a md5 check on the ISO before burning it to a cd?
[04:57] <ahmad_> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[04:57] <Sam827> sure
[04:57] <izinucs> Sam827, make sure you burn it SLOW.. 4x or so
[04:57] <Alan_M> sam827, and if the md5 is wrong, just re-download the iso image and check it again.
[04:57] <tuxus> mzuverink: I mean, you're on Ubuntu, correct? what palm package are you running?
[04:57] <ahmad_> I neeeeeeed help plz
[04:58] <Alan_M> izinucs has a great point, ive screwed up MANY of installs because i was being speedy, burning WAY too fast :(
[04:58] <Sam827> holdup where are the sums posted
[04:58] <mzuverink> j-pilot
[04:58] <mzuverink> tuxus, j-pilot
[04:58] <LSG> Alan_M: Now that we're on this subject of painful installations... i've had a problem the other day that i can't seem to work around. Got a second?
[04:58] <Kamir[ISSF]> Little lost here. I want to use DeeVeeDee for DVDs but can not find anywhere to install it... Someone point me in the right direction?
[04:58] <Alan_M> Sam827, http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/MD5SUMS
[04:59] <tuxus> mzuverink: have you checked http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=345608
[04:59] <Alan_M> LSG, depending on severity, im kinda a greenhorn :(
[04:59] <sgtmattbaker> I need some help with Ubuntu and my 8800GT.  I cannot even boot into Ubuntu or an Ubuntu LiveDVD (7.10).  Here is all the details.  Help is greatly appreciated.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62802/
[04:59] <andrew_46> Kamir[ISSF]: what are u burning?
[04:59] <Kamir[ISSF]> avis
[04:59] <mzuverink> tuxus, missed that one but will read it now, thank you
[04:59] <tuxus> mzuverink: GL
[04:59] <Alan_M> LSG, I know MOST basic things....give me something extremely tough and i break under pressure :P
[05:00] <Alan_M> LSG, but...ill try, so..what ya got buddy?
[05:00] <Sam827> the checksum is right
[05:00] <Kamir[ISSF]> andrew_46: .avi[s]
[05:01] <ToddEDM> hey  guys, i was just on the Ubuntu  site, and i was wondeing if there is an Ubuntu Mobile channel on IRC
[05:01] <Alan_M> sam827, hrrrrmmmmmm.........
[05:01] <LSG> Alan_M: Well, i'm no expert myself. Here's the thing: My sister wants me to install Ubuntu on her computer. Same (original) CD as i used on mine, same basic hardware setup, but when i install it on hers, it won't show up.
[05:01] <thedonvaughn> ahmad_: best bet is to a) Just ask your question and b) no annoying statements like 'helllloooo' or 'i neeeed heeeeelllppp'
[05:01] <Sam827> might I mention the liveCD works
[05:01] <Alan_M> LSG, what do you mean "wont show up"?
[05:01] <LSG> Alan_M: It's as if i hadn't installed it. No GRUB. Nothing at all.
[05:01] <tuxus> bye y'all
[05:01] <Alan_M> LSG, does it REMOVE anything?
[05:01] <ahmad_> ok sorry
[05:01] <LSG> Alan_M: Nope, the computer completely ignores me =(
[05:02] <Alan_M> !grub | lsg
[05:02] <ubotu> lsg: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:02] <Alan_M> recovering grub might help, even with your situation lsg
[05:02] <Sam827> alan might I mention the LiveCD works fine
[05:02] <Alan_M> sam827, wow....
[05:02] <LSG> Alan_M: Sweet, i'll try that. Thanks!
[05:02] <Alan_M> sam827 im not ignoring you buddy :)
[05:02] <Sam827> k!
[05:02] <Alan_M> sam827, you just got jumbled around, sorry :)
[05:03] <sgtmattbaker> I need some help with Ubuntu and my 8800GT.  I cannot even boot into Ubuntu or an Ubuntu LiveDVD (7.10).  Here is all the details.  Help is greatly appreciated.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62802/
[05:03] <Alan_M> sam827, I am honestly STUMPED.
[05:03] <Sam827> k
[05:03] <Sam827> I'll try reinstalling
[05:03] <Sam827> but I got to sleep
[05:03] <Alan_M> Sam827, thats the ONLY thing i know to do....im sorry bud.
[05:03] <Sam827> thanks anyway
[05:03] <Alan_M> Sam827, have a good night! :)
[05:04] <Sam827> goodnight
[05:04] <Alan_M> Sam827, you can always come back tomorrow and maybe someone else might know how to fix your problem.
[05:04] <Alan_M> oops....dang
[05:04] <Alan_M> heh
[05:04] <LSG> Too late...
[05:04]  * Alan_M hated jumbling that poor guy around.....
[05:04] <amirman84> does anybody know how to get a broadcom wireless LAN card from the Dell 1505 to work?
[05:04] <router> hi
[05:04] <Dr_Link> I'm trying to make a liveusb
[05:04] <LSG> Hahaha
[05:04] <Alan_M> he's been through like 2 people that i know of :(
[05:05] <Dr_Link> I'm umounting the mount point with all of my prepared files
[05:05] <travisat> sgtmattbaker: have you tried the 8.04 livecd? I have a 8800gts and it works just fine but yours is slightly newer then mine
[05:05] <LSG> Poor guy
[05:05] <Dr_Link> but apparently
[05:05] <router> is anybody using Acer 5920 with Ubuntu? Does it work out of the box?
[05:05] <izinucs> sgtmattbaker, how did you burn the dvd as an image or as a data file?
[05:05] <Alan_M> !enter | Dr_Link
[05:05] <ubotu> Dr_Link: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:05] <Dr_Link> umount /tmp/liveusb returns "device is busy"
[05:05] <Dr_Link> any way to prevent this?
[05:06] <tommmied> bastid_raZor, Can you help me out again?
[05:06] <ahmad_> Leaving the TV and DVB and were ready to work on the distribution of ubuntu 7.10, but I was not able to prepare a programme for them that I installed Kaffeine installed Elisa Media Center, but I do not know preparation
[05:06] <ToddEDM> anyone know anything about Ubuntu Mobile?
[05:07] <Alan_M> Toddedm, its supposed to be for like smartphones..thats all i know.
[05:07] <XceII> I use restricted drivers for nvidia, why does it take 3-8 mins to boot on new install?
[05:07] <amirman84> hello ubuntu channel, does anybody know how to get a broadcom wireless LAN card from the Dell 1505 to work?
[05:07] <ToddEDM> Alan_M:  i wanna know if it will run on my AximX51
[05:08] <drew_chicago> Anyone know why my /root partion is full at 100%?
[05:08] <izinucs> sgtmattbaker, how did you burn the dvd as an image or as a data file?
[05:08] <Alan_M> ToddEDM, I am not sure of the answer as i only have VERY basic knowledge..what i gave you is what i know.
[05:08] <Dr_Link> anyone know why it's returning "Device is busy"
[05:08] <Dr_Link> I'm not copying anything to it or anything
[05:08] <russK> Does the 7.10 Desktop download CD ISO run a live session so I can try it out before installing?
[05:08] <Alan_M> russK, yes
[05:08] <ahmad_> Leaving the TV and DVB and were ready to work on the distribution of ubuntu 7.10, but I was not able to prepare a programme for them that I installed Kaffeine installed Elisa Media Center, but I do not know preparation
[05:08] <tommmied> Hello guys I am having a real tough time with my video card.
[05:08] <XceII> russK:  yes
[05:08] <ToddEDM> thanks Alan_M
[05:08] <LSG> russK: Yeah
[05:09] <tommmied> I finally got the resolution right but now i get this error: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X
[05:09] <tommmied> (EE) NVIDIA(0):     log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X
[05:09] <tommmied> (EE) NVIDIA(0):     server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX module.  If
[05:09] <tommmied> (EE) NVIDIA(0):     you continue to encounter problems, Please try
[05:09] <tommmied> (EE) NVIDIA(0):     reinstalling the NVIDIA driver.
[05:09] <russK> thanks Alan_M and Xcell and LSG  :-)
[05:09] <FloodBot1> tommmied: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:09] <Alan_M> russK, sure :)
[05:09] <amirman84> is there an easy way to use wubi to install ubuntu 7.10? i want to practice getting my graphics card and my wirless to work before really installing
[05:09] <tommmied> oops, sorry guys didn't mean to flood.
[05:09] <XceII>  I use restricted drivers for nvidia, why does it take 3-8 mins to boot on new install?
[05:10] <sgtmattbaker>  izinucs: I burned it as an ISO.  Ubuntu simply does not work with the 8800
[05:10] <amirman84> am i invisible?
[05:10] <Kovecses> gutsy 7.10 is cooooool
[05:10] <XceII> ya
[05:10] <Starnestommy> amirman84: no, we can see you
[05:10] <amirman84> :)
[05:10] <nickrud> amirman84 yep
[05:10] <Boohbah> amirman84: i can't see you
[05:10] <amirman84> haha
[05:10] <Alan_M> !patience | amirman84
[05:10] <ubotu> amirman84: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:10] <Starnestommy> not in a literal sense, though
[05:11] <izinucs> sgtmattbaker, there are many here with that card working.. unfortunatly I don't have one.. just a 6600  do you get anything? like a terminal prompt?
[05:11] <amirman84> sorry botman!
[05:11] <Alan_M> but...yes..your invisible to me.....as i wasnt aware of your presence when issuing that command :P
[05:11] <sgtmattbaker>  izinucs: I get this crazy squashfs error.
[05:11] <sgtmattbaker> that repeats forever
[05:11] <Alan_M> hehe, only kidding, and i do take that warning back :)
[05:11] <sgtmattbaker> this happens with the 6.10 DVD as well
[05:11] <XceII> Alan_M:   I use restricted drivers for nvidia, why does it take 3-8 mins to boot on new install?
[05:11] <amirman84> i'm not peeved or anything, i know the people in here are volunteers i was genuinely curious because usually someone always replies
[05:12] <izinucs> sgtmattbaker, that is the file sys the live cd uses.. what speed did you burn at?
[05:12] <Alan_M> XceII, I have no idea..maybe someone else does though.
[05:12] <XceII> k
[05:12] <LSG> amirman84: If someone can help you, you'll get an answer =)
[05:12] <Alan_M> amirman84, lag might be an issue :)
[05:12] <ToddEDM> hey Alan_M ... its not for phones, "Ubuntu Mobile to target MIDs, not phones" ... just found that , thought you might wanna know
[05:12] <sgtmattbaker>  izinucs: standard speed.  as slow as possible I think
[05:12] <Alan_M> ToddEDM, oh, thank you! I would be misinforming people if i said that! Thank you for that correction! I definately owe you! :D
[05:13] <ToddEDM> lol
[05:13] <LSG> XceII: What's your system config.?
[05:13]  * Alan_M was skimming the page anyways :/
[05:14] <XceII> 7.10, asus with a gforce 7200 gs
[05:14] <nickrud> amirman84 not many people use wubi. You're probably not gonna have much luck finding someone up on it
[05:14] <LSG> XceII: What about processor and RAM?
[05:14] <thesyko> hi there guys
[05:15] <izinucs> sgtmattbaker, standard usually implies "auto" .. you should do 2 things.. check  the mdsum5 of the download  against what's posted on the download page and burn the iso again at the s.l.o.w.e.s.t. speed ... or just try one of the downloads  for ubuntu or kubuntu.. not the dvd but the cd version.. the dvd just has all 3-4 of the versions on it. pick  one to start .. you can always install the other desktops  after..
[05:15] <thesyko> i'm trying to get flash player to work on ubuntu 7.10 amd64
[05:15] <thesyko> but it keeps saying
[05:15] <XceII> amd 4200+ dual core 2000 fsb + 1.5 gig ram, all new
[05:15] <tommmied> anyone have any idea my my GLX module wouldn't be loading correctly?
[05:15] <XceII> sorry 4600+\
[05:15] <Kovecses420> been a while since i used ubuntu
[05:15] <thesyko> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[05:15] <thesyko>        Adobe Flash Player installer.
[05:15] <LSG> XceII: Wow...that is weird. Shouldn't even take 1 min. to boot up. Why do you figure it's got something to do with the graphics drivers?
[05:15] <Kovecses420> i am very impressed with this release
[05:15] <thesyko> any1 experienced this before?
[05:16] <XceII> cuz when i disable them it boots normally
[05:16] <nickrud> thesyko that's true. But, ubuntu has provided   flashplugin-nonfree , it installs flash with a wrapper
[05:16] <izinucs> Kovecses420, 14 days to the newest .. latest.. and greatest.. Hardy!
[05:16] <thesyko> yeah i installed flashplugin-nonfree
[05:16] <XceII> its a pci 7200 gs btw
[05:16] <LSG> XceII: Good point. Well i'm afraid i have no idea what the problem might be. Sorry =(
[05:16] <Kovecses420> izinucs: i thought that was still alpha?
[05:16] <thesyko> but my firefox still keeps asking me to download the plugin
[05:16] <nickrud> thesyko hardy?
[05:17] <izinucs> Kovecses420, nope.. beta and almost out.
[05:17] <thesyko> 7.10
[05:17] <Kovecses420> izinucs: wow
[05:17] <XceII> tx for trying tho LSG
[05:17] <sgtmattbaker> oh well.  I kind of dont care about ubuntu enough now to deal with it
[05:17] <sgtmattbaker> later
[05:17] <nickrud> hm, thesyko are you using the firefox provided with ubuntu?
[05:17] <thesyko> yeah
[05:17] <Kovecses420> izinucs: and to think i just installed this tonight...went co well compiz-fusion up in minutes...its been great
[05:17] <izinucs> Kovecses420, upgrading should be painless
[05:17] <nickrud> strange that. I was using 64bit, and that worked fine for me.
[05:18] <Kovecses420> izinucs: good point
[05:18] <HendriXXX> hardy is working like a charm for me.. i installed it when it was alpha3 or something :D
[05:18] <thesyko> hmmm
[05:18] <Alan_M> Hardy discussion needs to move please :)
[05:18] <amirman84> everything works except flash videos
[05:18] <LSG> XceII: Try asking again, maybe someone will have a clue as to what your problem may be.
[05:18] <Kovecses420> !mp3
[05:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:18] <XceII> ok
[05:18] <nickrud> thesyko do you have nspluginwrapper installed? That's the tool that is supposed to make it work
[05:19] <j3bennet> I've got a server (Ubuntu Server 7.10) that I want to connect to.  My ISP blcocks running all servers.  Can I relay commands to the box by having it connect somewhere else using an outbound connection instead of running an SSH server ??
[05:19] <thesyko> maybe i need to restart it
[05:19] <XceII> maybe ill wait till tomorrow when more folks are here, thankx tho LSG.
[05:19] <nickrud> thesyko heh. Could be ;)
[05:19] <LSG> XceII: Alright, good luck!
[05:19] <n6rej> can anyone help me setup a user that can ftp into /var/www and upload files?
[05:19] <b4l74z4r> i wish gthumb would zoom images using the mouse wheel
[05:20] <eisenhower> can someone tell me why I keep getting this? make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[05:20] <LSG> b4l74z4r: That makes two of us..
[05:20] <nickrud> eisenhower depends on the package. Have you tried  ./configure ?
[05:21] <Kovecses420> !donate
[05:21] <ubotu> To donate to Ubuntu, you can !participate or go to http://www.ubuntu.com/donations
[05:21] <b4l74z4r> LSG: i can't help but think that there's some configuration file that can be hacked for mouse wheel zoom
[05:21] <eisenhower> yea just did. i'm trying to install transmission
[05:22] <LSG> b4l74z4r: It can probably be done, but i have no idea how =(
[05:22] <nickrud> eisenhower did the configure finish successfully, or error out?
[05:22] <Alan_M> !participate > Alan_M
[05:22]  * nickrud thinks Alan_M already is
[05:22] <Alan_M> nickrud, I am, just wanted to see the link ;)
[05:22] <Kovecses420> !frostwire
[05:22] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:22] <thesyko> guys wanna ask
[05:23] <eisenhower> nickrud: ohh okay. checking for OPENSSL... configure: error: Package requirements (openssl >= 0.9.4) were not met:
[05:23] <j3bennet> is frostwire any good ?
[05:23] <eisenhower> would the be a error out?
[05:23] <thesyko> is there any package that can help me removed unused files / oprhan packages
[05:23] <thesyko> or not used packages?
[05:23] <nickrud> eisenhower install libssl-dev
[05:23] <nickrud> thesyko debfoster , and apt-get autoremove removes unused libs
[05:23] <eisenhower> should i do it in the synaptic manager or terminal?
[05:24] <nickrud> eisenhower either, it's the same package
[05:24] <thesyko> debfoster
[05:24] <thesyko> can i use the add/remove applications to install it?
[05:24] <eisenhower> kk
[05:24] <nickrud> thesyko not sure, but for sure synaptic will show it (add remove doesn't show everything)
[05:24] <thesyko> ok
[05:25] <amirman84> do any of you happen to use the broadcom wireless WLAN mini card that is standard on Dell Laptops, or have experience getting them to work?
[05:26] <Kovecses420> cant type in a frostwire window?
[05:26] <Kovecses420> any ideas
[05:26] <Adremelech> amirman84, use ndiswrapper or bcm43xx-fwcutter
[05:26] <nickrud> get rid of frostwire ;)
[05:26] <Kovecses420> nickrud: prob not a bad idea
[05:27] <nickrud> Kovecses420 I do believe that gtk-gnutella does the same protocol
[05:27] <Kovecses420> nickrud: its most likely much better now. gtk-gnutella was always horrible for me in the past
[05:28] <eisenhower> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../third-party/miniupnp/libminiupnp.a', needed by `benc2php'.  Stop.
[05:28] <eisenhower> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/eisenhower/Desktop/transmission-1.11/libtransmission'
[05:28] <eisenhower> make[1]: *** [install] Error 2
[05:28] <eisenhower> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/eisenhower/Desktop/transmission-1.11/libtransmission'
[05:28] <eisenhower> make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1  Any idea?
[05:28] <amirman84> adremelech, i know a little about how ndiswrapper works but it seems pretty scary and like if a noob like me tried it i would break something, is bcm43xx_fwcutter more appropriate?
[05:28] <FloodBot1> eisenhower: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:28] <eisenhower> whoa. shit sorry.
[05:29] <eisenhower> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62803/
[05:29] <eisenhower> any idea why this wont make?
[05:29] <nickrud> eisenhower there's probably something that will be a clue in the output of the configure
[05:30] <amenado> eisenhower-> here is your clue   No rule to make target `../third-party/miniupnp/libminiupnp.a',
[05:30] <Adremelech> amirman84, bmc43xx-fwcutter is like making a 4 course dinner next to ndiswrapper
[05:30] <nickrud> amenado ah, but what's the clue indicating why?
[05:31] <amenado> nickrud if he opens up his Makefile, the target is empty ?
[05:31] <eisenhower> ahh. i just installed buntu a week ago. lol there is no way i can figure this out by my self
[05:31] <nickrud> :)
[05:31] <nickrud> eisenhower by reading the source
[05:31] <eisenhower> ubuntu* , i'm trying to convert but that doest help ya know
[05:31] <amirman84> adremelech, would ndiswrapper be a burger from wendy's?
[05:31] <Adremelech> amirman84, well, a little more effort, like a ham sandwitch
[05:31] <ant-> a square burger...
[05:31] <nickrud> eisenhower trying to compile apps in your first week is not the right path ...
[05:32] <ant-> blah
[05:32] <amenado> eisenhower-> diving in to compile c code with Makefiles is not that simple.
[05:32] <eisenhower> oh. blah
[05:32] <Kovecses420> any cool new apps/games anyone could suggest?
[05:32] <ant-> back in my day, the first thing you had to do was compile the kernel
[05:32] <eisenhower> well transmission in the repositories is deprecated.
[05:33] <amenado> ant- yes and one has to do contortions to get it running  <wink>
[05:33] <nickrud> eisenhower transmission isn't in gutsy repos ...
[05:33] <amirman84> well, this is why wubi is good, it's like a sandbox for noobs like me to see if they can get their drivers to work, how can i get wubi to work with 7.10? or maybe i should just use ubuntu 8.04 since it comes out soon?
[05:33] <nickrud> eisenhower or wasn't, unless it's in backports
[05:33] <eisenhower> naw. it is
[05:33] <Cromag> amirman84: wubi comes with 8.04 afaik.
[05:33] <Kovecses420> !wubi
[05:33] <ubotu> wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[05:33] <amirman84> yeah, that's why i'm thinking it might be better
[05:33] <thunc> ubotu: did you submit your translation?
[05:34] <nickrud> eisenhower enable the gutsy-backports, it has 1.06
[05:34] <Kovecses420> !hardy
[05:34] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:34] <izinucs> thunc, while the rest of us are chuckeling.. realize the ubotu is a bot
[05:34] <eisenhower> nickrud: thats not in the synaptic manager is it?
[05:35] <Kovecses420> they dont have a changelog?
[05:35] <nickrud> eisenhower system->admin->sources, look for the updates tab and enable the backports. Then it will be
[05:35] <eisenhower> ty
[05:35] <Kovecses420> i need to roll a joint
[05:36] <Kovecses420> sorry that was way off topic
[05:36] <nickrud> eisenhower packages.ubuntu.com lets you search for what's available in the repos, sometimes newer stuff is found in the -backports repo
[05:36] <amirman84> can i ask a few stupid questions?
[05:37] <shinoj> yes, but only stupid
[05:37] <nickrud> amirman84 there are no stupid questions, just stupid helpers ;)
[05:37] <izinucs> !ask | amirman84
[05:37] <ubotu> amirman84: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:37] <amirman84> is enabling the backports dangerous? i know they're not supported but is it really very risky to install backported apps?
[05:38] <nickrud> amirman84 in general they are very high quality, otherwise they wouldn't have been allowed in
[05:38] <dolags32128> hey room
[05:38] <Flannel> amirman84: the programs themselves aren't dangerous, its just that they're newer versions, and less tested (especially with the combination with the older machine)
[05:39] <dolags32128> who here has had success with Hardy Heron?
[05:39] <lnxnwbe> my wife likes xp i like ubuntu, how do i edit grub to start xp first?
[05:39] <dolags32128> beta
[05:39] <amirman84> ok, also is there any reason i would need to download sourcecodes if i'm not developing software? do i need the sourcecode to ubuntu to compile apps?
[05:39] <nickrud> dolags32128 #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+1
[05:39] <izinucs> dolags32128, hardy is discussed in #ubuntu+1
[05:39] <dolags32128> thx
[05:39] <nickrud> amirman84 developing or wanting the bleeding edge stuff. or learning
[05:39] <Flannel> amirman84: No, you can download pre-compiled versions of everything.  No compiling or source required
[05:39] <amirman84> learning
[05:40]  * nickrud has bled copiously
[05:40] <kindofabuzz> how do i find out the owner of a folder command line?
[05:40] <nickrud> kindofabuzz ls -ld /path/to/dir
[05:40] <amirman84> flannel: i know but some stuff only works if you compile it, and it seems pretty easy to do so, am i wrong?
[05:40] <kindofabuzz> k
[05:40] <JPSman> how do I change my grub to not automaticly load ubuntu?
[05:40] <lnxnwbe> any one know the sudo comand to edit grub in terminal ?
[05:40] <Cromag> oh nice, didnt know the -d swtich
[05:41] <kindofabuzz> nickrud, root is the owner, so anyone in the admin group has the same permissions?
[05:41] <Flannel> amirman84: It's easy, but nothing in Ubuntu requires you to compile
[05:41] <izinucs> lnxnwbe, sudo nano /boot/grub/????
[05:41] <nickrud> kindofabuzz when they invoke sudo, yes
[05:42] <lnxnwbe> sorry i am runnung ubuntu 7.10
[05:42] <nickrud> lnxnwbe sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:42] <breakz> Hello everyone I was wondering if anyone has Pulse Audio + jackd under gusty I know that jack has a pulseaudio output module but strangely it's not in gusty's repos
[05:43] <amirman84> flannel: i think i need to compile stuff to get my wireless card to work
[05:43] <kindofabuzz> nickrud, ok how can i set it to an actual user name? chown?
[05:43] <nickrud> kindofabuzz yes,   sudo chown <user>:<usergroup> /path/to/dir    (user and usergroup are nearly always the same text)
[05:44] <amirman84> the only guide i found for my card talks about compiling stuff, it never mentioned using ndiswrapper or anything
[05:44] <breakz> anyone?? know of a backport of this? the fawn had this module
[05:44] <kindofabuzz> nickrud, one more question, if that folder is a mount folder form a hd, can it still be chowned?
[05:44] <nickrud> kindofabuzz yes, if the partition is mounted when you make the change it will survive reboots
[05:45] <kdorf> can anybody help me out with connecting to a pptp vpn?
[05:45] <migster> i setup RAID1 on Ubuntu 8.04, but I know that there is a bug - when I unplug one drive, the boot times out - I can't boot up from just one RAID drive. What do you think is the best approach - just wait until the bug is fixed and the "apt-get upgrade" the problem?
[05:45] <kindofabuzz> nickrud, user:group, should i put the groups as admin or users
[05:46] <eisenhower> nickrud: is this gutsybackport? Ubuntu supplied Linux modules for version 2.6.22 on x86/x86_64
[05:46] <lnxnwbe> can't remember how to change the order nickrud:
[05:46] <nickrud> kindofabuzz usually it would be  nameofuser:nameofuser , unless you have more specific requirements
[05:47] <nickrud> lnxnwbe change  default , counting os's starting with 0
[05:47] <kindofabuzz> nickrud, would that include the subdirs?
[05:47] <nickrud> eisenhower still transmission?
[05:47] <kindofabuzz> like the folder i wanna chown is /ftp
[05:47] <kindofabuzz> but it has subs
[05:47] <nickrud> kindofabuzz no,   chown -R  will recursively change all below that
[05:47] <kindofabuzz> ok
[05:48] <kindofabuzz> thansk buddie
[05:48] <eisenhower> oh snap. there it goes
[05:48] <joseph> hardy when i updated it today told me it could only do i partial upgrade
[05:48] <kdorf> can anybody advise on getting a pptp vpn running w/ the networkmanager plugin? I've tried every combination of settings and it just won't connect.
[05:49] <joseph> why is this
[05:49] <Alan_M> !hardy | joseph
[05:49] <ubotu> joseph: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:49] <Kl4m> I'm trying to set up a bridge from a wired desktop to wireless via a laptop. I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge . My laptop is 192.168.1.2 . I can ping it from my desktop but not the main gateway (192.168.1.1). Is anybody knowledgeable of network bridging?
[05:49] <Kl4m> desktop is manual at 192...25 btw
[05:51] <breakz> pulse audio + jackd in gusty where is the frakin' pulse audio jackd module :(
[05:51] <ubuntu> whats up yalls
[05:51] <ubuntu> nick bookmark
[05:51] <bookmark> i mean, what's up yalls?
[05:51] <bookmark> how is everybody?
[05:51] <Alan_M> bookmark, at least you didnt do that with /msg nickserv identify
[05:52] <bookmark> :)
[05:52] <bookmark> so...
[05:52] <Alan_M> bookmark, do you have a support question for us?
[05:52] <MrKeuner> hi, why isn't cinelerra in ubuntu repositories?
[05:52] <bookmark> anyone know of a way to eject the cdrom for just a minute?
[05:52] <bookmark> i just have to copy one rather large file 4.3 gigs
[05:53] <nickrud> MrKeuner because you haven't packaged it up for ubuntu?
[05:53] <nickrud> bookmark sudo eject
[05:53] <MrKeuner> nickrud: i thought there was a license problem
[05:53] <bookmark> nice
[05:53] <lnxnwbe> ok got it now how do i save?
[05:54] <bookmark> can it run indefinately like this?
[05:54] <nickrud> MrKeuner then why'd you ask :) Probably true
[05:54] <bookmark> or will it need the cd back?
[05:54] <MrKeuner> nickrud: go away
[05:54] <lnxnwbe> nickrud: how do i save it?
[05:54] <CorbinFox> i just got a new laptop and apparently it doesn't seem to realize that when i plug in a pair of headphones that the laptop speakers are supposed to stop.  Anyone think they can help?
[05:54] <nickrud> bookmark run indefinitely? oh, that was the live cd?
[05:54] <bookmark> yeah
[05:54] <breakz> is pulseaudio + jackd a wetdream in gusty unless I take the time & compile the output module myself
[05:54]  * Alan_M grabs nickrud from going into rottweiler mode.
[05:54] <effinboy> can I ask for help in here, or is that somewhere else?
[05:54] <Alan_M> hehe just kidding
[05:55] <nickrud> Alan_M heh, I was a bit silly, didn't mean to offend but I'm old and easy
[05:55] <Alan_M> effinboy, on what? :)
[05:55] <Alan_M> nickrud, didnt offend me, i was playing as well :P
[05:55] <osmosis> if KVM is what is officially supported by Ubuntu now, how come no one has updated the doc?!  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[05:55] <joel_> k
[05:55] <nickrud> lnxnwbe clt-X , the ^Letter's mean ctl-<Letter>
[05:55] <effinboy> I'm trying to go from using my box as a desktop to a headless server... go everything setup, just can't get VNC to work headless.
[05:56] <kindofabuzz> nickrud, does chmod use -R? like chmod 755 -R /ftp or chmod 755 /ftp*
[05:56] <breakz> I think that would be KVM in hardy is now supported
[05:56] <nickrud> bookmark lyou can't eject the cd and keep running the live cd environment. Never realized you were using the live
[05:56] <CorbinFox> i just got a new laptop and apparently it doesn't seem to realize that when i plug in a pair of headphones that the laptop speakers are supposed to stop.  Anyone think they can help?
[05:56] <effinboy> I've figured out that it's probably because X isn't configured right... but I can't figure it out, and have searched to no avail.
[05:56] <secret901> what command do I use to reinstall alsa from source
[05:56] <nickrud> kindofabuzz chmod -R 777 /ftp
[05:56] <amirman84> corbinfox: what kind of laptop do you have?
[05:56] <Kovecses420> virtual box is better
[05:56] <kindofabuzz> k
[05:57] <bookmark> how can i make a partition with sata?
[05:57] <lnxnwbe> nickrud i got it thank you
[05:57] <bookmark> ive only ever used ide
[05:57] <breakz> sounds like you need to hit a checkbox for headphones in your gnome volume mixer CorbinFox
[05:57] <CorbinFox> HP Pavillion dv9000, give me a sec and I'll see if i can perhaps grab the specific number.  i am running ubuntu on a dv6000 model and this problem didnt come up
[05:57] <lnxnwbe> nickrud:ty
[05:57] <nickrud> bookmark same tools, it doesn't matter
[05:58] <bookmark> i'm on that same laptop
[05:58] <secret901> how do I reinstall alsa from source?
[05:58] <bookmark> dv9000
[05:58] <bookmark> :D
[05:58] <CorbinFox> any issues on your end, booky?
[05:58] <nickrud> !alsa | secret901
[05:58] <ubotu> secret901: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:58] <bookmark> how can i change the colors of the terminal?
[05:58] <nickrud> secret901 there's instructions somewhere on the forums
[05:58] <bookmark> i can't see you'rez names
[05:58] <effinboy> bookmark --- normally right click the title bar, and prefereces/options
[05:58] <nickrud> bookmark edit->current profile
[05:59] <amirman84> corbinfox: was ubuntu preinstalled? have you installed anything recently that has to do with audio?
[05:59] <effinboy> Alan_M you get that?
[05:59] <bookmark> nice
[05:59] <Alan_M> effinboy, im currently doing something else....
[05:59] <CorbinFox> no, vist (blech) was the preinstalled OS.  i am running 7.10 dual boot right now
[05:59] <kekii> Hi guys. I'm trying to use ndiswrapper for my wireless card. however, i dont see a .inf and a .sys in the installation folder....and when i go download the driver from website, it's just a setup file. how do i get the .inf and .sys?
[06:00]  * Alan_M wonders why i get grabbed from AFK mode so much. :/
[06:00] <effinboy> ah, sorry about that... :-/
[06:00] <CorbinFox> as for installed anything to do wtih audio...i honestly hadn't plugged in my headphones until just now, after the extras and installing amarok and stuff.
[06:00] <Alan_M> effinboy, i dont know how to fix your issue, i just am the general greeter most of the time :)
[06:01] <effinboy> thanks anyways Alan_M
[06:01] <Alan_M> effinboy, that doesnt mean someone else might know how to fix it though :)
[06:01] <Alan_M> so..stick around :)
[06:01] <effinboy> does anyone know anything about getting VNC to run headless? I've done it before... but can't get it to go again.
[06:02] <HelpMe> effinboy: what do u mean headless?
[06:02] <amirman84> corbinfox: i'm about as noob as it gets i'm just waiting around but i'm finding some info online, other people have had the same problem you have
[06:02] <kindofabuzz> nickrud, i don't think that -r is working, didn't change the subs
[06:02] <effinboy> no keyboard/monitor/mouse... just the box in a closet.
[06:02] <bookmark> hmm 05 extended option in cfdisk, is that ext2?
[06:02] <kindofabuzz> i did chown -R blah:blah /ftp
[06:02] <nickrud> kindofabuzz   sudo chown?
[06:03] <kindofabuzz> yeah did that
[06:03] <bookmark> 83 linux
[06:03] <bookmark> nevermind
[06:03] <CorbinFox> amirman84: any fixes showing up? i'll check too
[06:03] <kindofabuzz> then ls -ld isn't what i just set
[06:03] <HelpMe> effinboy: i would think an autologin on start and then remote desktop connection enabled would do the trick...i dunno if there is autologin on linux tho...there should
[06:03] <kindofabuzz> groups
[06:03] <kindofabuzz> ooops
[06:04] <effinboy> there is, i got that setup already... got everything how i Like it, just going to be running a few GUI based apps on it (some via wine) that I'll need to get to every so often.
[06:04] <amirman84> corbinfox:i found the fix
[06:04] <effinboy> I think my problem is with X somehow.
[06:04] <CorbinFox> amirman84: i will worship you man, thank you!
[06:05] <HelpMe> effinboy: what exactly is the problem then? what is not working?
[06:05] <amirman84> corbinfox: "simply open up the file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and add "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop" to a new line."
[06:06] <effinboy> I can get to the box via SSH and VNC with a monitor connected just fine, and I can SSH into the box without the monitor... just can't VNC into the box wihtout a monitor hooked up.
[06:06] <noodles12> u guys have any suggestions for video editors in linux? i just want to be able to cut up a bunch of different avi files and put them in sequence. i tried kino but converting to dv took forever.
[06:06] <kindofabuzz> nickrud, the person took me out of admin, =( figured it would've given me an error when doing sudo though
[06:06] <secret901> how do I recompile the kernel from source?
[06:07] <nickrud> amirman84 in general you should create a new file in that directory for custom lines. That way you're not fiddling with files provided by packages. (the reason the directory exists)
[06:07] <effinboy> secret901 --- what do you need to do it for? patching drivers?
[06:07] <noodles12> secret901: u really wanna do that? look up compiling a kernel in the ubuntu wiki's. ti's got some good info
[06:07] <nickrud> !kernel | secret901
[06:07] <ubotu> secret901: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[06:07] <kindofabuzz> secret901, http://howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[06:07] <Ademan> is anyone making debs for gutsy of bleeding edge firefox 3? maybe nightly builds?
[06:07] <HelpMe> effinboy: well, I'm thinkin that you should try the server edition, i think i saw something about this there...more i dont know as i am not at that level yet
[06:08] <Netham45> Hi, I have a program I am trying to compile that is trying to access gmake.
[06:08] <amirman84> nickrud: i'm a noob, give me a break, besides that sounds complicated
[06:08] <secret901> effinboy: I updated to Hardy and the sound stopped working; I did a kernel recompile and the sound worked, but then the kernel is updated again and sound stopped working, so I want to recompiled it again
[06:08] <zeno_> Im trying to install java, ive tried sudo apt-get install -f, and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin, but niether work. heres apt output: http://pastebin.com/m497af469
[06:08] <nickrud> amirman84 not really,   sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/my-lines , and add the line there.
[06:08] <Netham45> does anyone know how I can forward gmake to make, or have it take make or something?
[06:08] <bookmark> hmm i'v having a little troulbe mounting my dvd driver
[06:08] <bookmark> drive
[06:08] <Erickj92> i cant seem to find a hex editor that can edit and search for hex values in a process that is loaded. any help?
[06:08] <bookmark> is it /dev/dvd?
[06:08] <HelpMe> so I am new to the whole open source community and I was wondering: what is a good summation of the GNU General Public License (GPL)
[06:08] <CorbinFox> nickrud: so i should just make a new file with the line in it?  i dont know if there would be anything else id need to do.  just copy and paste that line into an otherwise empty new file?
[06:09] <HelpMe> (i am trying to develop some software and I dont wanna get sued...)
[06:09] <bookmark> what file system is dvd?
[06:09] <bookmark> joliet?
[06:09] <nickrud> CorbinFox exactly. A good name would be hda-intel
[06:09] <nickrud> bookmark usually udf
[06:09] <effinboy> thanks HelpMe, I think I'm onto something here in searching... I think I need to edit my xorg.conf to trick it into starting like there is a monitor connected... like a virtual monitor
[06:09] <HelpMe> effinboy: np dude...good lick
[06:09] <HelpMe> luck
[06:10] <bookmark> yeah that brings up something, it gave me the error, unknown file system ' udf'
[06:10] <secret901> noodles12: I want to recompile the exact same kernel source that came with Ubuntu
[06:10] <effinboy> how'd you know I lilke popsicles so much? lol
[06:10] <amirman84> i just found someone who had a fix and copied and pasted what they wrote
[06:10] <bookmark> do i need a module?
[06:10] <nickrud> CorbinFox now, hda-intel has a ton of different options for different machines, like 3stack and laptop and 6stack and .....
[06:10] <HelpMe> effinboy: lol..cheers to that
[06:11] <nickrud> amirman84 a good choice, the right path. It would work, but isn't the best way to do it. Not your fault, and that's why I pointed it out ;)
[06:12] <bookmark> what is the command to mount a dvd?
[06:12] <zeno_> Im trying to install java, ive tried sudo apt-get install -f, and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin, but niether work. heres apt output: http://pastebin.com/m497af469
[06:12] <damaltor> HelpMe: you could say, like: "This software is freely distributed. everybody has the right to use it, for every purpose. everybody has the right to change it if he likes. the program can be copied, and distributed to everybody, while a version of the GNU GPL has to be given away with the program in every case. everyone using or distributing the program acknowledges that there will be NO WARRANTY at all, to the extent permitted by law.
[06:12] <CorbinFox> nickrud: okay, i copied and pasted the line amirman84 gave me into a new file named hda-intel in the /etc/modprobe.d directory, is that correct or did i screw up horribly?
[06:13] <Alvein> hi ppl:)
[06:13] <nickrud> CorbinFox that's exactly how I handled my hda-intel. Now, you have to reboot to test the option line and see if it's the right one
[06:13] <Psynaut> I am trying to delete a fully formatted NTFS hard disk and reformat it as ext2 with no boot permissions, just a slave storage drive using cfdisk and I keep running into an error that no primary partitions are marked bootable, and that DOS MBR cannot boot the disk.  Do I need to create multiple partitions on a drive that will not be a bootable disk on my system?
[06:14] <CorbinFox> nickrud: how will i know it worked?  where will the difference be noticed? or will the headphones just work when i reboot?
[06:14] <Alvein> some question... how to install pkg in ubuntu without dvd-rom (download all pkg from internet)?
[06:14] <nickrud> CorbinFox not sure, but possibly. Like I said the hda-intel is not an easy chip to get right
[06:15] <amirman84> nickrud: thanks, in that command you wrote... "sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/my-lines" is "my-lines" the name of the file created? and is "nano" a command that says "create this file here"
[06:15] <amirman84> corbinfox: the same guy that wrote that fix said you may have to upgrade Alsa
[06:16] <CorbinFox> nickrud: so it could just be fixed when i reboot? no more work need? (if it works out without more tweaking of course)
[06:16] <amirman84> the way he wrote it, it sounded like he was saying, you would be prompted to update if you needed to
[06:16] <CorbinFox> amirman84: how would i go about upgrading it?  is there information at the link you found?
[06:16] <CorbinFox> ah
[06:16] <AioRia^> hi
[06:16] <nickrud> CorbinFox brb
[06:17] <bookmark> how can i get a listing of the available modules?
[06:17] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> lsmod?
[06:17] <bookmark> it seems i don't have udf support
[06:17] <amirman84> corbinfox: no there was no information, i think there's a command you can put in the terminal to upgrade stuff automatically
[06:17] <HendriXXX> is it possible to get rhythmbox adjust/normalize mp3 files while playing? i have a lot of mp3 files with different bitrates.
[06:17] <Alvein> heh... :(
[06:18] <CorbinFox> like apt-get update alsa? i am too noobish to know for certain but apt-get update sounds...familiar and possibly right. i may just be stupid tho
[06:18] <bookmark> HendriXXX ill bet there's something like that for xmms
[06:18] <xx0xx> hi
[06:18] <xx0xx> how to compile perl?
[06:18] <amirman84> yeah, i'm just learning that stuff, it looks right but only someone like nickrud could say
[06:18] <Alvein> anybody know how 2 use apt-get? :)
[06:18] <CloudFX> HendriXXX: i would suggest using VLC media player.  It is available in Add/Remove... and does not require codecs.
[06:19] <CloudFX> Alvein: for what purpose?
[06:19] <xx0xx> Alvein sudo apt-get install/remove packageName
[06:19] <Alvein> how to install pkg in ubuntu without dvd-rom (download all pkg from internet)?
[06:19] <amirman84> corbinfox:that command couldn't hurt, i would go ahead and do it
[06:19] <xx0xx> Alvein sudo apt-get install packageName
[06:20] <Alvein> xx0xx, they ask cdrom.. i'm dont have thej
[06:20] <zeno_> Im trying to install java, ive tried sudo apt-get install -f, and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin, but niether work. heres apt output: http://pastebin.com/m497af469
[06:20] <Alvein> *they
[06:20] <xx0xx> nope
[06:20] <xx0xx> apt-get download from internet
[06:20] <CloudFX> Alvien: what cdrom is asked for?
[06:20] <xx0xx> package*
[06:20] <CorbinFox> amirman84: nope, apparently that is wrong.  and normal apt-get update doesn't make mention of it so I am certain i am wrong here
[06:20] <Alvein> with Ubuntu 7.04..
[06:20] <Starnestommy> Alvein: run 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and put a # at the beginning of the line that talks about the cdrom
[06:21] <xx0xx> insart the disk. then try apt-get
[06:21] <Alvein> Starnestommy, big thnx 4 u!
[06:21] <amirman84> corbinfox: check this out http://lastkth-en.blogspot.com/2007/11/upgrade-alsa-ubuntu-gutsy-update.html
[06:21] <HendriXXX> bookmark: i don´t like xmms player very much because rhythmbox is much better with bigger music libraries. i have over 80gigs of mp3 files ;)
[06:22] <bookmark> i just listen to internet radio mainly heheh
[06:22] <rootlinuxusr> 90s alt.
[06:22] <HendriXXX> ok
[06:22] <rootlinuxusr> xD
[06:22] <CloudFX> HendriXXX: use VLC media player. codecs not required.
[06:22] <Alvein> thanx 2 all! Bye
[06:22] <CorbinFox> amirman84: i shall try it
[06:22] <amirman84> corbinfox: i just pooped my pants at the amount of terminal work needed to update alsa according to that blogpost
[06:23] <RobertMorriso1> Evening everybody
[06:23] <CorbinFox> amirman84: it appears to be fairly straightforward, just...lots of it
[06:24] <CorbinFox> tho i fear trying it out...perhaps i am being paranoid or am wrong about it but messing with Linux Headers is bad, right?
[06:24] <HendriXXX> CloudFX: it´s same thing with VLC player. it doesn´t handle big music libaries very well..
[06:25] <thunc> Netham45: think harder then. do you see how gpl applies if i write a program that links to a library which is gpled?
[06:25] <amirman84> corbinfox: you are braver than i
[06:25] <CloudFX> HendriXXX: there are several iTunes like applications... search ipod in add/remove
[06:26] <CloudFX> HendriXXX: I believe there is one called exaile music player
[06:26] <Robert_M> What about something crazy like running Foobar under Wine?
[06:27] <amirman84> i've always heard amarock was the best app for big music libraries
[06:28] <xx0xx> unop__ good morning
[06:28] <amirman84> amarok
[06:28] <CloudFX> amirman84: I can't say i really like amarok
[06:28] <bwayne> amirman84:  i've heart the same.  i think it's because amarok creates a sqlite database (by default) vs. reading disk directly.
[06:28] <HendriXXX> hmm. there seems to be a gconf key "use_replaygain" for rhythmbox.. maybe it will work. i´ll test it..
[06:28] <unop__> xx0xx, hey
[06:28] <xx0xx> hey
[06:28] <unop__> what's happening?
[06:28] <xx0xx> nothing :)
[06:29] <xx0xx> i just having problem compiling perl.
[06:29] <Robert_M> Has anybody here had any experience hooking up an external monitor to a laptop?
[06:29] <nickrud> gahhh
[06:29] <unop__> xx0xx, you don't need to compile perl, it's available as a package.
[06:29] <xx0xx> :/home/st3v3n/NeoStats-3.0.1/src/perl.c:442: undefined reference to `Perl_Gth
[06:29] <xx0xx> make[2]: *** [neostats] Interrupt
[06:30] <unop__> xx0xx, why are you compiling perl?
[06:30] <Starnestommy> xx0xx: is libperl-dev installed?
[06:30] <xx0xx> http://www.neostats.net << bcoz neostats need to be compile... idk why
[06:30] <xx0xx> Starnestommy lamme see
[06:32] <xx0xx> Starnestommy i did still having problem.
[06:32] <adhi> hai
[06:32] <xx0xx> hey
[06:33] <adhi> how are u
[06:33] <Starnestommy> xx0xx: is libperl5.8 also installed?
[06:33] <xx0xx> Starnestommy yes
[06:33] <xx0xx> adhi hai
[06:34] <unop__> xx0xx, pastebin the entire error you get there
[06:34] <xx0xx> adhi i mean good good. you?
[06:34] <adhi> :-)
[06:34] <adhi> me too
[06:34] <xx0xx> ok
[06:34] <HendriXXX> yeah.. i think it´s working with that gconf key :D
[06:35] <comp> How to Update system on 6.06: Is there a way to use Terminal to update system?
[06:35] <jon__> i had to restart X and now my notification area icons are missing, what do i do?
[06:35] <CloudFX> comp: u should be able to update through Update Manager
[06:35] <xx0xx> unop__: http://pastebin.com/d78d03a89
[06:36] <comp> CloudFX, is there a way to run Update Manager from terminal? thanks!
[06:36] <Alan_M> i know one thing and one thing only..im going to bed!
[06:36] <CloudFX> comp: im getting u the code right now
[06:36] <comp> CloudFX, thanks!
[06:36] <adhi> apa ada orang indonesia d sini
[06:36] <effinboy> alllllllrighty... time to ask again... anyone know how to setup X so I can connect via vnc while headless?
[06:36] <unop__> xx0xx, where's the command?
[06:37] <xx0xx> unop__ what command?
[06:37] <unop__> xx0xx, paste again please, include everything you have there, commands and all
[06:37] <CloudFX> comp: update-manager -c -d
[06:37] <xx0xx> its ./configure , make , make install
[06:38] <zcat[1]> effinboy: system > preferences > remote desktop, share desktop, no prompting, yes password.
[06:38] <comp> CloudFX, thanks! btw, how did you figure out that command so next time maybe i can figure it out?
[06:38] <adhi> hellow
[06:38] <jon__> how do i get my battery meter and network manager back in the notification area?
[06:38] <effinboy> Autologin is already on zcat[1]
[06:38] <zcat[1]> yes, that too..
[06:39] <xx0xx> unop__: check http://www.neostats.net/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1771
[06:39] <RyanRyan52> How can I get xmlsimple (for ruby) in dapper? Me being the 'smart' person I am wrote a program on my Debian machine thats going to be ran on dapper machines.
[06:39] <unop__> xx0xx, yes, paste everything since you typed ./configure .. having me look at one part of the bigger picture is not enough context
[06:39] <xx0xx> unop__ my problem is fixed i guess
[06:39] <RyanRyan52> and I cant use gems cause its gotta be a dependancy
[06:39] <effinboy> and I can connect via vnc with a monitor connected just fine already. just not without one
[06:39] <CloudFX> comp: i looked in the ubuntu wiki
[06:39] <comp> ok cool
[06:39] <zcat[1]> Ahh, ok.
[06:40] <jon__> how do i get my battery meter and network manager back in the notification area?
[06:40] <xx0xx> unop__ :D i fixed now :D ./configure --disable-perl << fixed my prob
[06:40] <effinboy> im guessing that it's because X can't start without my monitor hooked up, and VNC cant connect without X started zcat[1]
[06:41] <CloudFX> jon__: right click panel and choose Add to Panel
[06:41] <itai> anybody knows how to "save to network places" on MS Word in Ubuntu?
[06:41] <jon__> that does not add it to the notification area
[06:41] <xx0xx> dynamic-096-031.hsc.usc.edu) (Educational/School Network)
[06:41] <xx0xx> cool :D
[06:41] <Flannel> itai: MS word?
[06:41] <unop__> xx0xx, bahh .. you haven't fixed the problem, you've avoided it totally .. well anyway, as long as you get your thing rolling, it's all good
[06:41] <itai> Flannel, MS word
[06:42] <itai> Microsoft Word
[06:42] <CloudFX> jon__: im sorry, what do u mean by notification area?
[06:42] <itai> Office
[06:42] <xx0xx> unop__ :)
[06:42] <CloudFX> jon__: do u mean Panel?
[06:42] <jon__> no, it is an applet on the panel where programs can place icons
[06:42] <jon__> the ubuntu network manager and battery meter go on it normally
[06:42] <CloudFX> jon__: it should be Add to Panel
[06:43] <unop__> CloudFX, wrongly called the "system tray" ...
[06:43] <RyanRyan52> How can I get xmlsimple (for ruby) in dapper?
[06:43] <zcat[1]> effinboy: yeah, there's another vnc server that gives you a completely new 'virtual' desktop, I can't remember the name though
[06:43] <jon__> that adds the gnome ones, not the ubuntu ones, the gnome ones don't work as well
[06:43] <Bogaurd> I'm using ubuntu fiesty, and i notice that my drives are not named in the normal way, ie, secondary master is not hdc, if there is no primary slave it'll be sdb
[06:43] <Bogaurd> is this due to udev?
[06:44] <zcat[1]> !info tightvncserver
[06:44] <ubotu> tightvncserver (source: tightvnc): virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.9-21 (gutsy), package size 677 kB, installed size 1456 kB
[06:44] <zcat[1]> I think that was it
[06:44] <CloudFX> jon__: OOh, apoligies for the misunderstanding
[06:45] <Xecuter> hi! i'm trying to make my m-audio oxygen 8 midikeyboard to work, and have to do some stuff in /proc/bus/usb/xxx/xxx, xxx is numbers, but they're not existing
[06:45] <Xecuter> why not?
[06:45] <effinboy> what is the default vnc server for 7.10? X11vnc?
[06:45] <jon__> that's fine, i tried typing nm-applet on the command line, but that only puts it there until i restart, i do not know why it disappeared
[06:45] <travisat> Xecuter: you need to find a newer guide to install your keyboard
[06:45] <jon__> or how to get it to stay, or how to get the battery meter back
[06:45] <effinboy> no... tightvncserver requires X as well. :-/ I've tried it
[06:46] <itai> anybody knows how do i save to network share in MS word on Ubuntu ?
[06:46] <unop__> itai, mount the share on a directory and save files in that directory
[06:46] <xx0xx> how do i limit proftpd to home dir?
[06:46] <zcat[1]> well, I know there's one that doesn't...
[06:47] <itai> unop_ the directory is mounted , i can save stuff to it with OO , but in MS word I don't seem to have the option, there must be some Wine twaek
[06:48] <unop> itai, what option?
[06:48] <jon__> does anyone else have an idea of how to restore my notification area?
[06:50] <Xecuter> travisat, thanks! I should have figured ^^
[06:50] <itai> upon_ lets say i write a file then "save as" , there is nothing in "my network places" uin other words i have no access to the mounted network share
[06:51] <RyanRyan52> What package is xmlsimple (ruby) in?
[06:51] <adhi> hui
[06:51] <jon__> what is the command to get the ubuntu battery meter icon in the notification area?
[06:52] <adhi> hello
[06:52] <unop> itai, "my network places" is not the same as a mounted volume .. make a directory called ~/stuff, mount the network share on ~/stuff .. then you should be able to use MS word to save files in ~/stuff (which indirectly actually gets saved on the network share)
[06:53] <xx0xx> unop how do i create user on ubuntu. he/she may not use sudo. but he/she can compile.
[06:53] <jms1989_compaq> Hi, I have been trying to figure this out: I have been using wget to download a gallery at a website. I want to mimic the same dir structure starting at the domain but not download from any parent dirs.
[06:53] <Xecuter> travisat, i'm getting "can't modify CPUCS: Broken pipe", got an idea?
[06:53] <jms1989_compaq> I'm using "wget -c -r -p -l 4 -np -nd -P web http://www.domain.com/dir/dir2/"
[06:53] <jms1989_compaq> I've done it before, I don't know why it wont now. It keeps resolving to 127.0.0.1 and downloading just index.html.
[06:53] <itai> unop, i get you . thanks
[06:53] <travisat> Xecuter: I don't really know that much about what you are trying to do, I just know that a couple of years ago a lot of the stuff in /proc changed
[06:54] <unop> xx0xx, man adduser and man useradd
[06:54] <Xecuter> travisat, ok thanks :)
[06:54] <xx0xx> ok
[06:54] <Damion> Howdy
[06:55] <unop> jms1989_compaq, what's in index.html?
[06:56] <StPatrick> Hi
[06:56] <effinboy> is there anywhere anyone knows of on IRC that i can goto for xorg specific support?
[06:56] <jms1989_compaq> http://127.0.0.1/index.html is my place holder file in /var/www/
[06:56] <Damion> So I tried to install linux twice unsuccessfully: once off of a ubuntu factory-supplied disk and a home-burnt xubuntu disk.
[06:56] <StPatrick> GIn You here?
[06:57] <StPatrick> Damion, What error you getting?
[06:57] <Damion> Both times when I tried selecting "Start or Install", "Start in safe graphics mode", or "Check CD Integrity", it directed me to a prompt-like program called busybox
[06:57] <two-bits> how do I install a new font?
[06:57] <Damion> where after a short pause, it spat out the following lines:
[06:57] <StPatrick> Can anyone suggest to me reasons why i may be hacving trouble connecting to an unsecured wireless network?
[06:58] <itai> unop, just a general question. lets say  i mount an XP share in Ubuntu, and  set it to auto, will i always have to turn on the Ubuntu box AFTER the xp  boots?
[06:58] <Damion> exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[06:58] <unop> jms1989_compaq, i'm not sure then, i've always used this.  wget -r -np -nH http://domain.com/path # it might be becayse you are using the -nd option to??
[06:58] <StPatrick> If there is a command that I want to run each time Ubuntu boots, where is the file I add it to?
[06:59] <xx0xx> HOW to FIREWALL DDOS?
[06:59] <Damion> cmd c8/00:08:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/e0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 4096 in
[06:59] <Damion> (both of those lines repeated, one after another, three times
[06:59] <Damion> )
[06:59] <unop> itai, use nautilus to mount the share, that way it's conventient for you and you dont have to mess about too much with mount points and whatnot
[06:59] <StPatrick> If there is a command that I want to run each time Ubuntu boots, where is the file I add it to?
[07:00] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> StPatrick, gnome or kde?
[07:00] <StPatrick> Damion, download the Ubuntu 7.1 Live CD.
[07:00] <StPatrick> [Hardy]TuTUXG, Gnome
[07:00] <Damion> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[07:00] <Damion> (repeated twice)
[07:00] <itai> unop, can i set it to always mount that share when it boots?
[07:00] <jms1989_compaq> Still downloads from 127.0.0.1.
[07:00] <anomsuratno> hi, i have problem with my wifi with hardy beta 3
[07:00] <unop> StPatrick, it depends if you want to run the script as root or as the user you logon as
[07:00] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> StPatrick, gnome-session-properties
[07:00] <anomsuratno> it keep disconnected
[07:00] <StPatrick> unop,  root.
 Damion, download the Ubuntu 7.1 Live CD. <-- I got that error on both a factory-shipped ubuntu 7.10
[07:01] <Damion> and a downloaded xubuntu 7.10
[07:01] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> StPatrick, what cmd u wanna run at startup?
[07:01] <StPatrick> Damion,  hmm
[07:01] <StPatrick> [Hardy]TuTUXG, ./wlan0up
[07:01] <unop> itai, sure, in that case, you'll be better of adding an entry in /etc/fstab .. if the windows machine isnt up when ubuntu loads, the share will not be mounted and you will need to run "sudo mount -a" to mount it again when windows starts
[07:01] <StPatrick> [Hardy]TuTUXG,  In a certain folder.
[07:02] <unop> StPatrick, add your line to /etc/rc.local just before the last line
[07:02] <StPatrick> unop,  ThHAT'S the one. Thanks!
[07:02] <Damion> someone at school suggests it may be my motherboard
[07:02] <Damion> but I checked all of the requirements and my cd is for the proper architechture
[07:03] <unop> !fstab | itai
[07:03] <ubotu> itai: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:03] <itai> unop, sorry ,but i am not so sure now what you mean by "mount it with nautilus" , i can browse the XP share with nautilus , i have it bookmarked in my panel, but Words' "save as" doesn't see it
[07:03] <awmcclain> If I'm creating a new ubuntu package, are there guidelines for installation? Installing into /etc/foo, etc?
[07:03] <Flannel> awmcclain: #ubuntu-motu is the best place to ask
[07:03] <awmcclain> Flannel: Thank you!
[07:03]  * effinboy pulls hair out...
[07:04] <Lapinux> anyone use gnome commander?
[07:04] <unop> itai, i dont run gnome so i can't guide you through the exact procedure at the moment-- but if you do. ALT+F2  and type in nautilus-connect-server  .. you should see what i mean
[07:04] <StPatrick> In KDE< If i am in a folder, I can push f4 to open a console with that path, is there a similar shortcut in Gnome?
[07:05] <itai> unop, ok thank you
[07:05] <effinboy> alright... let's rephrase this then... anyone know how to get X to start even if I don't have my monitor hooked up???
[07:06] <unop> effinboy, thats a bit pointless is it not? what are you actually trying to do?
[07:06] <effinboy> unop - VNC into a headless server.
[07:06] <StPatrick> I finally got Ubuntu to recognize my wifi, but now I cant seem to connect to any networks. Anyone have any ideas whay?
[07:07] <bwayne> StPatrick:  that's maybe a Konqueror specific shortcut (at least opening "in that path").  I'm sure someone's created a metacity script that can do the same.
[07:07] <unop> effinboy, ssh into the machine, start the vncserver and then you should be able to connect to it
[07:07] <effinboy> vncservers require that X be running. at least the ones that I've used.
[07:08] <qcode> hi
[07:09] <ubuntu> !grub
[07:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:09] <xx0xx> unop adduser: Only one or two names allowed.
[07:10] <unop> StPatrick, http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/cat-executing.php
[07:11] <unop> xx0xx, think outside the box sometimes :) http://tinyurl.com/5g8jyf
[07:12] <xx0xx> lool unop
[07:13] <unop> xx0xx, also - http://tinyurl.com/5uknrn
[07:14] <blackinside> Hello
[07:15] <Ademan> does anyone know of firefox 3 beta debs for gutsy?
[07:16] <lilsyko> guys
[07:16] <lilsyko> wanna ask
[07:16] <lilsyko> can a std ubuntu amd64 installation be converted to gOS?
[07:17] <unop> Ademan, http://www.manast.com/2008/02/10/install-latest-firefox-3-beta-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-710/
[07:17] <Ademan> unop: ooh, awesome, thanks
[07:19] <unop> !info firefox-3.0
[07:19] <ubotu> firefox-3.0 (source: firefox-3.0): lightweight web browser based on Mozilla (Development Version). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0~alpha8+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1130 kB, installed size 3832 kB
[07:19] <kadko> Hello I want to copy one folder to another forlder has a root how can i do?
[07:20] <unop> kadko, sudo cp -aR /path/to/src/  /path/to/dest/
[07:20] <kadko> let me try
[07:20] <shachaf> unop: -aR?
[07:21] <unop> shachaf, man cp
[07:21] <effinboy> according to [ http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/#faq-headless ] I should be able to headlessly start VNC without an issue (using Xvnc11 which I am currently) unless X is failing to start up. I think that's where my issue is.
[07:21] <shachaf> unop: That seems redundant (or does -R do something -a doesn't?).
[07:21] <Damion> so I can't figure out why fully functioning liveCDs won't work
[07:21] <unop> shachaf, man cp
[07:21] <shachaf> unop: man cp says -a = -dpR
[07:23] <kadko> unop: I will get a message like a copy sussefull or something?
[07:23] <unop> kadko, if the command completes without saying anything, it was a success
[07:23] <Damion> do you guys think maybe my livecd problem is related to smartd?
[07:23] <kadko> ok tnx
[07:24] <shachaf> unop: Am I missing something (just curious)?
[07:24] <phoenix24> How can I compile a docbook ?
[07:25] <eax> Hello :) I'm trying to install Linux on my friends HP Pavilion DV9000, I'm using Gutsy's Live Install CD (received VIA mail) and it have worked excellent on every computer so far, except this one. It sees the cd, I select install and it comes up with the loading screen and then just.. Black :O Any ideas?
[07:26] <shachaf> phoenix24: Into what?
[07:26] <unop> shachaf,  all these are equivalent on GNU cp . cp -a, cp -ar, cp -rdp .. -aR comes out of habit for me from using cp on different systems like the BSDs where -a doesn't necessarily mean -dpR
[07:26] <Damion> eax: after the loading screen with the orange bar, does it start a prompt?
[07:26] <phoenix24> shachaf: dockbook into html (preferably)
[07:26] <shachaf> unop: Oh.
[07:27] <effinboy> eax... I had this issue before too.. hold on.. theres a command you need to use...
[07:27]  * shachaf should've thought of that -- too used to GNU. :-)
[07:27] <phoenix24> shachaf: I the book source I have are XML files.
[07:27] <unop> shachaf, it is redundant in the example i gave kadko but it doesn't make a difference
[07:27] <eax> Damion, I don't think so. If it does what do I do? And a prompt looks like?
[07:27] <eax> effinboy: Great :D
[07:27] <Damion> basically, I've got that same problem
[07:27] <eax> Damion: :(
[07:27] <Damion> and it goes from the load screen to a prompt from a program called busybox
[07:27] <Damion> that gives the following lines:
[07:28] <Damion> exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[07:28] <Damion> cmd c8/00:08:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/e0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 4096 in
[07:28] <Damion> how many hard drives do you have?
[07:28] <b4l74z4r> does x use opengl technology?
[07:28] <HendriXXX> i have HP dv9643eo laptop and i installed hardy on it and it´s working perfectly. everything works, wlan, card reader etc. i haven´t try with gutsy
[07:28] <Ademan> b4l74z4r: it depends on what you mean by uses, programs that run under x can use opengl
[07:29] <effinboy> at the install menu eax hit f6 and type "noapic irqpoll noirqdebug"
[07:29] <eax> effinboy: Anything? :)
[07:29] <eax> Effinboy: thanks a bunch :D you are my savior ^^
[07:29] <effinboy> if it doesnt let you with the live cd, you may have to use the alternate install cd and do it with that one. but it works I have a dv9225us :D
[07:29] <xx0xx> how to change file from user group?
[07:29] <effinboy> np eax
[07:30] <Damion> someone told me that it might be a problem with my number of hard drives
[07:30] <Damion> so I'm gonna try and unplug my external and then give it another go
[07:30] <b4l74z4r> Ademan: i experiencing some visual tearing when i move application windows around, i wondered if turning on vsync in opengl would fix it
[07:30] <Damion> will report on my findings!
[07:30] <pyguyy_> thunc: diediedie!!!
[07:30] <pyguyy_> thunc: diediedie!!!
[07:30] <pyguyy_> thunc: diediedie!!!
[07:30] <FloodBot1> pyguyy_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:30] <pyguyy_> thunc: diediedie!!!
[07:31] <eax> Damion: Great, I might have got a solution from Effinboy though :) I looks like it's working so far :D
[07:31] <awmcclain> Sysadmin question: Is /usr/local/src an appropriate place to install the source for the webapp that I'm deploying?
 at the install menu eax hit f6 and type "noapic irqpoll noirqdebug" <-- will this also work for me?
[07:31] <Ademan> b4l74z4r: what application? i don't really think so though, if it was tearing while standing still that could be vsync, but when you're moving it, that's just what happens with your card and driver
[07:32]  * delphian :D
[07:32] <effinboy> Damion, are you just trying to install on a dv9000 series?
[07:32] <Damion> uh
[07:32] <Damion> I'm trying to install on an older x86
[07:32] <Damion> desktop
[07:32] <Damion> amd duron processor
[07:32] <b4l74z4r> Ademan: any application window does it and i also get tearing in fullscreen youtube but not in fullscreen vids played in totem
[07:32] <effinboy> i dunno then... might try it. it helps with AMD processors
[07:33] <unop> awmcclain, you can put it where you like really, just as long as you know where to locate it when you need it later, but yea, it's a _standard_ location for the job
[07:33] <awmcclain> unop: Just looking out for standards. Perfect! Thank you.
[07:34] <effinboy> eax ... this is where i solved most of my problems, and dont let the author discourage you from trying 7.10 on it, it works fine for me... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512059
[07:34] <Ademan> b4l74z4r: totem uses 'xv' which is equivalent tech to 'overlay windows' in windows xp, i suppose youtube must not use it.  unfortunately i don't know what to tell you, it could be a driver bug, in which case you could try in #ati or #nvidia depending on what you have, i believe there's a #intel as well
[07:34] <b4l74z4r> Ademan: ok, thanks
[07:34] <mne> Hi guys. I need help with an NFS problem. I have a working NFS server running on gutsy. And I have another host (also running on gutsy) where I want to mount the NFS shares. While this works just fine on other machines, the gutsy client gives the following error: "mount.nfs: mount to NFS server 'nfsserver' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered". portmapper is running, host.allow contains the same entry as on the working hosts
[07:34] <nesp> hi, does anyone here know where to find instructions on how to compile ltsp5 custom kernels?
[07:35] <eax> effinboy: thanks a lot :) You've been really helpful :)
[07:36] <effinboy> no problems. :D no only if I could find the answer to my issue :P
[07:36] <arno-t> Hi all, in nautilus when I do "make link" on a directory and then mark the link and press delete, the link is not deleted, but the target! Is this by design or by bug? If you "rm" a symbolic link, the link goes away, not the target...?
[07:37] <benanzo> I am having trouble with netcat -- I can't seem to get it to do anything interesting.  I want to relay some streaming audio to another machine
[07:37] <benanzo> I do "nc 208.53.158.16 8080 | nc -l localhost 9999"
[07:37] <benanzo> on the first machine
[07:37] <benanzo> then on the second I do "nc firstmachine 9999" but I get connection refused.
[07:38] <shallabal316> i'm having a really hard time installing avant window navigator
[07:38] <shallabal316> help?
[07:38] <pyguyy_> thunc: diediedie!!!
[07:38] <pyguyy_> thunc: diediedie!!!
[07:38] <FloodBot1> pyguyy_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <pyguyy_> thunc: diediedie!!!
[07:39] <shallabal316> can anyone help me with an avant-window-navigator install for gutsy
[07:40] <ds_> I need help:  no matter what disc (good source for iso) I can't install fresh on XP amd64.  I/O error, error reading CD over and over
[07:40] <hikejinx> shallabal316: just ask and if someone knows how to help, they will.
[07:40] <effinboy> ummm... what are you trying to install ds_?
[07:40] <ds_> Gutsy
[07:40] <hikejinx> shallabal316: what is the problem?
[07:41] <shallabal316> this is part of the output when i run apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[07:41] <Crshman> hello all, i'm trying to move all the avi file in a directory and all it's subdirectories into one singular directory.....what's wrong with this command?
[07:41] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What does mean 'to zero in' in the sentence: "Clusters help you see your search results by topic so you can zero in on exactly what you’re looking for or discover unexpected relationships between items."?
[07:41] <Crshman> mv `find ../lost+found/ -name *.avi` .
[07:41] <shallabal316> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:41] <shallabal316>   avant-window-navigator: Depends: libawn0 (>= 0.2.1) but it is not going to be installed
[07:41] <shallabal316>                           Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.18.3) but 1.18.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[07:41] <shallabal316> E: Broken packages
[07:41] <FloodBot1> shallabal316: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:41] <effinboy> try hitting f6 at the main install screen and then type "noapic irqpoll noirqdebug" ds_
[07:42] <bwayne> bullgard4:  it means roughly "to make more exact and/or precise".
[07:42] <bullgard4> bwayne: Ah, ok. Thank you for explaining.
[07:42] <bwayne> bullgard4:  for example, to focus on only the bull's eye of a dart-board would be "to zero in" on the dart-board as a whole.
[07:43] <ds_> Anyone
[07:43] <hikejinx> shallabal316: how are you installing? Do you have gutsy? And you need to be using something like compiz I think.
[07:43] <ds_> anybody have any ideas?
[07:43] <bwayne> bullgard4:  you'll find that some English idioms may lack perfect definitions.
[07:43] <shallabal316> yes, im using compiz fusion
[07:43] <adhi> teu ngarti
[07:43] <hikejinx> shallabal316: gutsy?
[07:43] <shallabal316> and i have gutsy
[07:43] <shallabal316> yes
[07:44] <Jimbo> hey what does this mean:
[07:44] <Jimbo>  $ uptime
[07:44] <Jimbo>     15:12:12 up 21:20,  2 users,  load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.01
[07:44] <bwayne> bullgard4:  kind of like "it is making heat" (literally) in Spanish is the idiom for "it's hot outside".
[07:44] <hikejinx> Do you have all of your sources enabled? Are you installing from synaptic?
[07:44] <shallabal316> just thru terminal
[07:44] <bwayne> a localized flavor of Spanish, at least.  there are so many spanish dialects.
[07:44] <ds_> Why won't my computer boot fresh CD
[07:45] <bullgard4> bwayne: A practical language needs also not-so precise words or phrases in addition to other very precise words.
[07:45] <dodol_medan> hi, how do i detect my modem?
[07:45] <unop> benanzo,  try this on one machine .  cat file | nc -l -p 9999 .. and try this from another machine.  nc otherhost 9999 # you really ought to see the contents of 'file' on the output there
[07:45] <effinboy> ds_ can you get to the main install screen?
[07:45] <hikejinx> Have you tried a deb, maybe from getdeb?
[07:45] <ds_> Yes
[07:45] <ds_> Then I press enter and it I/O error
[07:45] <ds_> disc read error
[07:45] <Starnestommy> ds_: have you tried the alternate cd?
[07:45] <bwayne> bullgard4:  i agree.  it's those idioms that really make the "heart" of a language.  those phrases which are least translatable to other tongues is what really makes a vernacular of a language.
[07:45] <ds_> What's the different
[07:45] <ds_> difference
[07:46] <shallabal316> no i havent tried that yet
[07:46] <benanzo> unop: OK thanks I will try
[07:46] <dodol_medan> hi, how do i detect my modem?
[07:46] <Starnestommy> ds_: the alternate cd is install-only and often works when the regular ones fail
[07:46] <hikejinx> maybe try that and there might be a channel for avant window navigator too
[07:46] <bwayne> so some imprecision is good, in order to relate the "sense" or "emotion" of a phrase.
[07:46] <shallabal316> yea
[07:46] <shallabal316> i think theres something wrong with my repositories
[07:47] <unop> benanzo, how that might be useful is to copy files across the network, so you can do something like.  nc otherhost 9999 > /path/to/new_file
[07:47] <ScriptDevil> the beta installer gets stalled after the partitioner gets loaded. That is even the partition screen doesnt come up
[07:47] <benanzo> unop: That works -- I think I just had the options and syntax wrong.  Thanks
[07:47] <warri> hello
[07:48] <shallabal316> should i maybe try using a diff server than the main
[07:48] <hikejinx> shallabal316: did you install 3rd party ones. That could be it. #awn could help.
[07:48] <ScriptDevil> is the alternate installer too available in the live cd?
[07:48] <shallabal316> aight thanks
[07:48] <Flannel> ScriptDevil: no
[07:48] <hikejinx> shallabal316: I'm not sure. If you have a repo issue you might never get it resolved.
[07:48] <alexmart> hello, how can I add a sudo command to startup ?
[07:49] <ScriptDevil> alexmart: why would you do that?
[07:49] <Flyerfye> ok my problem:
[07:49] <unop> benanzo, yea, it looks like you missed the -p option
[07:49] <unop> alexmart, you want to run a script as root? is that it?
[07:50] <waveshaper> is there a default pass for root after you install ubuntu/desktop version?
[07:50] <alexmart> I have a driver for a vodafone mobile connect card and it needs the sudo command to work
[07:50] <Starnestommy> waveshaper: there isn't one at all
[07:50] <waveshaper> ok. just empty
[07:50] <waveshaper> ?
[07:50] <Starnestommy> waveshaper: no, it's a locked account.
[07:50] <unop> alexmart, call your script from /etc/rc.local
[07:50] <Flyerfye> In the past Ive been able to run Warcraft III: TFT through Cedega and Wine with no problems, recently however, I was screwing around with xorg.conf to try and get my s-video to work and now whenever I try to play, regardless of wheter I actually have the cd, it doesnt read as having the cd
[07:50] <alexmart> so everytime i start up the computer i then have to open a terminal and go sudo vodafone-mobile-....
[07:51] <alexmart> ok I'll have a look
[07:51] <waveshaper> ah. how can I/can I enable it?
[07:51] <Starnestommy> !root
[07:51] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:51] <waveshaper> ok tnx :)
[07:52] <effinboy> unop, isn't the /etc/rc.local script a root/admin script anyways?
[07:52] <unop> effinboy, yes, it is called by process 1 (init) which runs as root
[07:53] <effinboy> yeah, thought so. so alexmart just needs to add the command via a sudo gedit to that script. :D
[07:53] <unop> effinboy, thanks for putting in so many words something that i already asked him to do :)
[07:53] <alexmart> so i just type in the command before "exit 0" and leave everything intact ?
[07:54] <unop> alexmart, yes exactly
[07:54] <alexmart> everything else*
[07:54] <alexmart> ok thanks unop !
[07:54] <effinboy> :P
[07:55] <pyguyy> will someone please stop ubotu
[07:55] <pyguyy> he's making my bot swap
[07:55] <pyguyy> if you could rename him ubotu_ for just long enough for my bot to exit
[07:55] <pyguyy> or something
[07:55] <jonnymac> why is it that my computer is so slow? Is there something I can do to free up space?
[07:55] <pyguyy> he's stuck in this disk eating loop
[07:56] <Oprtz> hi
[07:56] <lankke> hey people... I am having a problem booting ubuntu after I had to remove the linux drive in order to do data recovery on my friends broken hard drive. Since putting my linux hard drive back in, I have been unable to boot ubuntu (gets stuck right after the grub boot loader)
[07:57] <pyguyy> oh thank fuck
[07:57] <Oprtz> i m using Intel 946GZ Express chipset 128mb vga, its working good, but when ubuntu starts it flickers a littlebit, do i need to update the driver for ubuntu?
[07:57] <jussio1> !ohmy | pyguyy
[07:57] <ubotu> pyguyy: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:58] <pyguyy> who'd get an ubuntu user to do data recovery
[07:58] <pyguyy> ubuntu for losers
[07:58] <pyguyy> ubuntu for suckers
[07:58] <pyguyy> forever
[07:58] <FloodBot1> pyguyy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:58] <pyguyy> ##slackware
[07:58] <lankke> I was using my windows hard drive to do data recovery
[07:58] <effinboy> someone kick pyguyy?
[07:58] <pyguyy> your loser windows hard drive
[07:58] <lankke> if you read what I wrote... I took my linux drive out
[07:58] <lankke> hahaha
[07:58] <lankke> yeah i'm a loser
[07:59]  * dodol_medan slaps pyguyy around a bit with a large trout
[07:59] <Flannel> !ops | pyguyy
[07:59] <ubotu> pyguyy: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[07:59] <lankke> someone who comes on an ubuntu irc channel to act the tough guy is calling someone else a loser for using windows... hmmm let's see
[07:59] <lankke> get a girlfriend bro
[08:00] <effinboy> thanks Flannel
[08:00] <xx0xx> !help
[08:00]  * Antti !weather, !kernel, !sysinfo, !sms
[08:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:00] <Lo_Pan> http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[08:00] <Madpilot> xx0xx, do NOT play with that. You won't like the results.
[08:00] <KalEl> sorry but i use windows too, and i am not a looser
[08:00] <RedScare> is there a way to customize the "quit" without changing the entire GTK theme?
[08:01] <xx0xx> !sms
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:01]  * KalEl is eagerly awaiting hardy heron :)
[08:01] <HSorgYves> i want to setup TSIG for bind; I have the ARM in front, but they do not mention where to store the keys
[08:01] <bwayne> RedScare:  you can edit the actual image for the quit button using GIMP.  i'm not sure what file *exactly* you need to edit, but that's the "theory".
[08:02] <RedScare> I fixed my Vista partition, thank god, my battery life on gutsy is atrocious
[08:02] <ifireball> RedScare: you probably can, but it may involve coding and recompiling...
[08:02] <Lo_Pan> /var/cache/bind usually
[08:02] <Lo_Pan> tsig is awesome
[08:02] <RedScare> it can't be that complicated
[08:02] <bwayne> RedScare:  what exactly are you wanting to do?  make the quit button look different?
[08:02] <RedScare> let me as you guys
[08:02] <millertime_018> hello?
[08:02] <RedScare> yes, just customize the look
[08:02] <millertime_018> I need some help installing xp with oem files
[08:03] <lankke> anyone here know what the problem is?? I get these ata.01: Emask errors on startup
[08:03] <RedScare> aesthetics
[08:03] <millertime_018> because I have a hard drive it cant connect
[08:03] <millertime_018> detect***
[08:03] <millertime_018> help please
[08:03] <RedScare> look, there is an application launcher for it... so what the is the terminal command to bring up the quit GUI?
[08:04] <RedScare> I could make a custom application launcher, use the same command then customize the icon to my will
[08:04] <bwayne> RedScare:  well, GIMP is the Gnu Image Manipulation program, which is what (I think) gtk themes are created with.  so, at least theoretically, you would be able to change not just the quit button but all the other buttons too.  i've never done it ; that's the theory in a nutshell though.
[08:04] <EnvoyRising> does anyone know how to set video options in et:qw? is that missing from linux client or something?
[08:04] <ifireball> RedScare: well you can start by looking for the icons it uses in your /usr/share directory and replacing them, maybe you can even find the .glade file and change it as well
[08:04] <Lo_Pan> HSorgYves: did you see what i wrote
[08:04] <Wobbo> is there a shortcut to reply a person in xchat, to get the persons name in the new line, like "person, blabla bla bla..." just by ctrl clicking on it's name for example?
[08:04] <Flannel> Wobbo: Type a few letters and hit tab
[08:04] <monkeybritches> ls
[08:04] <Madpilot> Wobbo, type the first three or four letters, hit TAB
[08:04] <RedScare> ifireball, did you see my comment about the actual terminal command?
[08:04] <EnvoyRising> Wobbo, not sure about ctrl, but there is autocompletion
[08:04] <Lo_Pan> HSorgYves: the only thing about tsig that i find is a pain in the arse, is that bind views where the one zone appears in multiple views tend to not work as you'd expect
[08:05] <xx0xx> I need help with proftpd. anyone can help me?
[08:05] <bwayne> Wobbo:   make sure you have the tab completion option set to TRUE or that it's check-boxed or whatever.
[08:05] <millertime_018> Help!
[08:05] <millertime_018> i need some help installing xp
[08:05] <Lo_Pan> HSorgYves: journalled zones are weird
[08:05] <HSorgYves> Lo_Pan: Now yes ;-)
[08:05] <ifireball> RedScare: when you say there is a launcher you mean you found the .desktop file for it?
[08:05] <jussi01> millertime_018: ##windows
[08:05] <KalEl> the default way of handling right click is sticky... can i change that in preferences somewhere so that it requires two clicks instead?
[08:05] <EnvoyRising> ah, Madpilot is all over it. doesn't have to be 4 characters, just enough to identify the person without being ambiguous
[08:05] <HSorgYves> Lo_Pan: the keys need to be on both servers?
[08:05] <bwayne> millertime_018:  ##windows or ##loonybin.
[08:05] <millertime_018> windows
[08:05] <askvictor> I'm about to buy some new hardware for a new ubuntu desktop system (nothing too flash, won't be doing much in the way of video editting); any recommendations for CPU/GPU/RAM/MB ?
[08:06] <Lo_Pan> HSorgYves: when you submit the zone updates using nsupdate or whatever, you have to supply the key, yes
[08:06] <EnvoyRising> askvictor, unless drivers have improved over the last month, nvidia is a safer bet over ati
[08:06] <RedScare> well, here's the thing, Under  Add to Panel I can add it under Desktop and Windows
[08:06] <bwayne> millertime_018:  nah bro.  you misunderstand.  this channel isn't for installing windows.  we might be able to assist here or there, but this isn't the room to "lead by the hand" in (at least, as far as any Microsoft product is concerned).
[08:06] <millertime_018> i'm having a problem when it gets partway through the installation it tells me that i can't find my ata drive
[08:06] <askvictor> EnvoyRising: I'm contemplating intel over both of them
[08:06] <HSorgYves> Lo_Pan: thanks; will try and reask if I encounter a problem
[08:06] <Lo_Pan> HSorgYves: brb, must pee (too much beer)
[08:06] <millertime_018> oh
[08:07] <RedScare> so in theory there should be a terminal command that brings up the same log off/switch user/shutdown prompt
[08:07] <Lo_Pan> HSorgYves: am always here, just pm me if i dont seem to be around
[08:07] <Lo_Pan> HSorgYves: leave email address if i dont reply before you go
[08:07] <millertime_018> well i just kinda associated it with computer savvy
[08:07] <EnvoyRising> an intel graphics card? hmm...i guess you'd avoid proprietary drivers that way..
[08:07] <HSorgYves> Lo_Pan: ok, tyvm
[08:07] <RedScare> if I can just create a custom launcher it would use some lame default icon and I could customize that
[08:07] <ifireball> RedScare: I'm not sure, it may be hardwired in the panel code
[08:07] <RedScare> hm
[08:08] <bwayne> RedScare:  you're using gnome ??
[08:08] <RedScare> yes
[08:08] <EnvoyRising> askvictor, as for te other things, i've not had any problem with anything i've thrown at linux. the big hardware issues i had were graphics card, sound drivers (not the card though), webcam, and wifi
[08:08] <adhi> hah
[08:08] <wica_> Hi, I wanne use a newer version of mailscanner then that there is in the tree of ubuntu. How can I get a newer one without the nedd of the source code?
[08:08] <Lo_Pan> HSorgYves: no probs man
[08:08] <RedScare> why?
[08:08] <ifireball> RedScare: though I suppose the icons themselves are just .png or .svg files somewhere is your theme directory
[08:08] <adhi> whrn
[08:08] <adhi> whrn
[08:08] <FloodBot1> adhi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:09] <adhi> zzzzzzz
[08:09] <adhi> when
[08:09] <EnvoyRising> wica, you could see if there's one in getdeb.net
[08:09] <RedScare> i think so too
[08:09] <StPatrick> Someone please save me.
[08:09] <EnvoyRising> alternatively, enable the hardy repos and install from that (should be called prerelease or something)
[08:09] <bwayne> RedScare:  well it's easy enough to create an desktop icon that when double-clicked would run a shell command "sudo shutdown"  but I'm not sure about bringing up the exact dialogue box you're referring to.
[08:09] <RedScare> but if there is a term command for the same window it would make it easier/safer
[08:09] <Flannel> !id | adhi
[08:09] <ubotu> adhi: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[08:09] <EnvoyRising> better yet, wait two weeks for hardy to come out, all packages are getting updated then (they are now, but it's pre-release)
[08:10] <RedScare> yea, sudo shutdown  arguements required
[08:10] <wica_> EnvoyRising: And howdo I add the hardy repos
[08:10] <ifireball> RedScare: I suppose you should just grab a good image browser and start poking in /usr/share/themes/
[08:10] <wica_> EnvoyRising: I can not wait, building the server now
[08:10] <RedScare> shutdown -G or -U or something for the gui
[08:10] <Lo_Pan> HSorgYves: also dont forget to set the permissions on your keyfiles so that regular users cannot read them
[08:10] <EnvoyRising> wica_ give me a sec
[08:10] <Lo_Pan> HSorgYves: otherwise they can hijack your zones
[08:10] <wica_> EnvoyRising: I will
[08:11] <bwayne> RedScare:   those arguments (or 'flags') can be ran from the icon as well.  any shell command can be programmed into a desktop icon you can click.
[08:11] <HSorgYves> Lo_Pan: sure
[08:11] <RedScare> yea, I know
[08:11] <RedScare> but they don't work
[08:11] <StPatrick> Ok, If i need to run the command : "./wlan0up" in the folder /home/ryan/rtl8187b-modified  every time Ubuntu starts, as root, how do I do it?
[08:11] <RedScare> they are invalid for the shutdown command
[08:11] <ifireball> RedScare: the terminal shutdown command is as old as UNIX, it doesn't have a GUI
[08:11] <RedScare> must be another command its running
[08:11] <EnvoyRising> wica_, ok, just open up synaptic, click settings > repositories, then navigate to the updates tab and select gusty proposed
[08:11] <RedScare> right, but doesn't mean you couldnt build one on top of it
[08:12] <wica_> EnvoyRising: cli version ?
[08:12] <effinboy> Fatal server error:
[08:12] <effinboy> no screens found
[08:12] <wica_> EnvoyRising: It is a server, so no X
[08:12] <hikejinx> RedScare: if you want to make a log out of x shortcut, you can use sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:12] <ifireball> RedScare: not sure its running a single command at all, like I said, evidence shows that most stuff on the system menu is hard coded
[08:12] <jussi01> RedScare: "sudo shutdown -h now" will shut down your machine.
[08:12] <effinboy> thats what im getting when I try to start manually via SSH
[08:12] <StPatrick> Ok, If i need to run the command : "./wlan0up" in the folder /home/ryan/rtl8187b-modified  every time Ubuntu starts, as root, how do I do it?
[08:13] <jussi01> !repeat | StPatrick
[08:13] <ubotu> StPatrick: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:13] <ifireball> RedScare: having said that, there may be an XML file somewhere that describes the content of that menu
[08:13] <EnvoyRising> wica_, doh. i saw you write that, wasn't paying attention.. anyways, open up your etc/apt/sources.list
[08:13] <SuperLag> hmmm....
[08:13] <StPatrick> !patience
[08:13] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:13] <wica_> done
[08:13] <SuperLag> maybe I won't buy that iMac tomorrow
[08:13] <StPatrick> ahhh it all makes sense now.
[08:13] <RedScare> I'll be googling in the background
[08:13] <KalEl> i've installed xscrensaver which has its own power management tab, i hope it won't conflict with gnome-power-management?
[08:13] <SuperLag> Nehalem soon, I hear
[08:13] <effinboy> ./dance
[08:14] <Oprtz> i m using Intel 946GZ Express chipset 128mb vga, its working good, but when ubuntu starts it flickers a littlebit, do i need to update the driver for ubuntu?
[08:14] <EnvoyRising> wica_, then uncomment the appropriate lines.. i'm looking right now to tell you exactly which ones they are
[08:14] <lankke> Hey guys/gals, I am having trouble with my dual boot system. I have ubuntu on one drive, xp on the other and the setup was working perfectly up until a couple of weeks ago. I removed the linux hard drive so that I could perform a data recovery on a friend's broken windows hard drive. When I put the linux hard drive back in, ubuntu would freeze right after the grub bootloader
[08:15] <ifireball> RedScare: can you give a little more details about what you're trying to do? are you trying to change the look of the window itself or just the icon on the system menu?
[08:15] <RedScare> just the icon
[08:15] <RedScare> like you said, may be easy to just search for the icon
[08:16] <EnvoyRising> wica, i found it... going to put them in paste bin for yoiu
[08:16] <EnvoyRising> you*
[08:16] <StPatrick> Ok, If i need to run the command : "./wlan0up" in the folder /home/ryan/rtl8187b-modified  every time Ubuntu starts, as root, how do I do it?
[08:16] <RedScare> but now that I'm on it, I want to know if there is a term command to bring up the log off gui
[08:16] <wica_> EnvoyRising: Thnx
[08:16] <bwayne> lankke:   try booting into a livecd and restoring grub from there.
[08:16] <jussi01> !autostart | StPatrick
[08:16] <ubotu> StPatrick: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[08:16] <jussi01> !boot > StPatrick
[08:16] <andruu> is there a way to switch the command key to the control key on a mac keyboard?
[08:17] <bwayne> StPatrick:  i think you could add that command to /etc/rc.local and it'll run whenever you login as that particular user.
[08:17] <RedScare> i think you simply go into Key Preferences under advanced andruu
[08:17] <EnvoyRising> wica_, http://pastebin.com/d3876611a
[08:17] <ifireball> RedScare: I see. if you want to do a real clean job at replacing the icon, copy the theme directory, thus creating your own custom theme, before replacing it
[08:17] <StPatrick> bwayne,  Right, thank you, that's what im lookin for.
[08:17] <StPatrick> bwayne,  any idea why when I open it, it's just a blank page?
[08:18] <bwayne> StPatrick:  that's a generally Linux wide solution, not just Ubuntu-specific.
[08:18] <lankke> bwayne ... okay mate. You think it's a problem with grub then?
[08:18] <RedScare> oh yes, backups will be in order
[08:18] <EnvoyRising> wica_, then of course your usuall sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:18] <cosmoshell> hey guys, quick question. im setting up apt-build, and its asking for my architecture.. and im not sure what to select. what one would a Celeron be?
[08:18] <StPatrick> bwayne,  but how would I add it?
[08:18] <wica_> EnvoyRising: Yep, allready doing that. Thnx
[08:19] <bwayne> lankke:  more than likely grub as it is installed is looking for a place that doesn't exist.  re-installing grub may fix the issue.  shutting off the drive in the BIOS and then turning it back on (boo sequence I mean) may resolve the issue as well.
[08:19] <jussi01> cosmoshell: i386
[08:19] <Flyerfye> hey guys
[08:19] <Flyerfye> is there a system restor function on ubuntu
[08:19] <Flyerfye> I want to restore to about a week ago
[08:19] <bwayne> lankke:  GRUB errors are manifold.  many points of failure.  we'd have to get more specific to really trouble-shoot
[08:19] <StPatrick> bwayne, like, I have "/home/ryan/rtl8187b-modified ./wlan0up" on a line bedore exit 0, but it didnt work, did i do something wrong?
[08:20] <wica_> Flyerfye: Nop, there is no function like that.
[08:20] <EnvoyRising> Flyerfye, yes, but not by default
[08:20] <bwayne> StPatrick:  the addition that you make to /etc/rc.local should be the exact shell command you'd normally use.
[08:20] <EnvoyRising> Flyerfye, we can maybe help you get your stuff back to where it was a week ago though
[08:21] <bwayne> StPatrick:  IIRC,  lines in /etc/rc.local are ran as root so don't try sudo or anything.
[08:21] <lankke> bwayne: Well I get this weird msg if I turn off quiet boot... something like ata.01: Emask ...
[08:21] <cosmoshell> jussi01: know that. my options are pentium, ﻿pentium-mmx, ﻿pentium2, ﻿pentium3, ﻿pentium3m ﻿pentium-m, ﻿pentium4, presscott and nocana
[08:21] <StPatrick> bwayne,  right!  oh, lol i think sudo is what im missing.... cause other than that, i dunno why it would have not worked.
[08:21] <bwayne> lankke:  that's greek to me, my friend.  re-installing grub couldn't hurt though.
[08:21] <Flyerfye> Well my problem is that I was screwing with xorg to get my s-video working and now when I go to run cedega or some other games, they wont work the way they used to, basic games still work though
[08:22] <bwayne> StPatrick:  naw man don't use sudo in the rc.local file.
[08:22] <unop> StPatrick, what are you trying to launch/execute from rc.local?
[08:22] <RedScare> brilliant!
[08:22] <lankke> haha okay mate
[08:22] <RedScare> ifireball
[08:22] <bwayne> unop:  i think StPatrick  has a custom script he's wanting to run.
[08:22] <ifireball> RedScare: here
[08:22] <RedScare> for future reference
[08:22] <EnvoyRising> correct me if i'm wrong guys, but doesn't xorg.conf come with a default backup
[08:22] <EnvoyRising> ?
[08:22] <unop> bwayne, yes, i was the one to recommend rc.local
[08:22] <EnvoyRising> or is that only when you do a reconfig?
[08:22] <RedScare> the terminal command it 'gnome-session-save --kill'
[08:22] <StPatrick> unop,  I have to run ./wlan0up to turn on my wifi every time I boot.
[08:23] <unop> StPatrick, and what is the exact command you used in rc.local?
[08:23] <ifireball> RedScare: hmm... kind weird, so its hardwired into gnome-session...
[08:23] <noodles12> i just installed kdenlive and was playing with it. and now noneo fmy sound works!
[08:23] <EnvoyRising> Flyerfye, if not, how much have you configed your vid card..one idea is to boot from cd, copy that config file to your harddrive, then reboot
[08:23] <bwayne> EnvoyRising:  no.  some custom tools will create a backup.  dpkg-reconfigure will create backups in /etc/X11/ with timestamps in the filename.  but if you edited xorg.conf with vim or something, no a backup isn't automatically created.
[08:23] <awmcclain> Packages.ubuntu.com is down?
[08:23] <RedScare> so adding a custom applet with the term command gnome-session-save --kill then making a custom icon would be an easy clean way of changing the icon
[08:23] <lankke> bwayne: the livecd is taking me to a shell like prompt (initramfs): and the same error is being displayed
[08:24] <zoidberg> hey guys...i have the mediplayer connectivity thing for firefox...and i have vlc open up and play some videos ....but can vlc remember the username and password for the site that i open the vidoes form ...i hate entering the username and password every single time for each video
[08:24] <EnvoyRising> bwayne, thats what i was afraid of. it's been so long since I've done a manual edit of xorg.conf, and even then i always made a point to back it up :P
[08:24] <bwayne> lankke:   you mean, you're booting from a livecd and you're getting the exact error as if you were trying to boot from hard disk grub menu?
[08:24] <lankke> yeah
[08:24] <ifireball> RedScare: yeah, but it won't change the menu, also I think a custom theme will be more alone the lines of what the developers intended
[08:24] <unop> awmcclain, it seems to be .. you can always use 'apt-cache search blah' for packages and 'dpkg -S file' for files instead
[08:24] <bwayne> EnvoyRising:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will walk you through creating a new one and will create backups for you.
[08:25] <RedScare> oh of course ifirebal
[08:25] <Flyerfye> well I tried restoring the backup xorg file to no avail, a point of interest, one of the things I was doing created backups for me and now I have 33 coppies of xorg files
[08:25] <EnvoyRising> bwayne, i know. ergo why i haven't done a manual config of xorg in a while :P
[08:25] <Flyerfye> EnvoyRising: well I tried restoring the backup xorg file to no avail, a point of interest, one of the things I was doing created backups for me and now I have 33 coppies of xorg files
[08:25] <zoidberg> hey guys...i have the mediplayer connectivity thing for firefox...and i have vlc open up and play some videos ....but can vlc remember the username and password for the site that i open the vidoes form ...i hate entering the username and password every single time for each video
[08:26] <StPatrick> unop, /home/ryan/rtl8187b-modified ./wlan0up
[08:26] <Flyerfye> EnvoyRising: and at one point I actually deleted the xorg so it defaulted and I could reconfigure the settings
[08:26] <bwayne> EnvoyRising:  the main part is to get your driver right.  dpkg-reconfigure will automatically select what it thinks is the best, but it seems that it won't autoselect closed source drivers (like 'nividia') for you.  you have to select it when you're presented with the option on the appropriate screen.
[08:26] <Flyerfye> EnvoyRising: come to think of it, I havent restarted since restoring my xorg, that might help
[08:26] <awmcclain> Can anyone tell me about liblinux-aio-perl?
[08:26] <HSorgYves_> Lo_Pan: where do i find the hash of the key?
[08:26] <EnvoyRising> oh wow... well maybe you can just do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[08:26] <ifireball> RedScare: the gnome system administrators guide installed on your desktop (just search in 'help') and on google includes some fine details about the way the menus work and how to customize then file-wise
[08:27] <unop> StPatrick, you need to use exact pathnames when calling stuff from scripts .. rc.local is looking for a file named /etc/wlan0up there.
[08:27] <awmcclain> (specifically, what's the difference between that and libio-aio-perl?)
[08:27] <awmcclain> (and is it even maintained anymore?)
[08:27] <EnvoyRising> bwayne, nvidia has a tool that will config xorg for you nvidia-settings i believe
[08:27] <bwayne> EnvoyRising:  be sure to steer clear of third-party scripts/tool (like envy for nvidia) to install closed source drivers.
[08:27] <StPatrick> unop,  I dont understand, what would i put then?
[08:27] <bwayne> i've found those only breed trouble.  use ubuntu's build in features.
[08:27] <lankke> I don't understand why the live cd isn't working now
[08:28] <Flyerfye> EnvoyRising: brb, gonna try restarting
[08:28] <Nubae> when is hardy out?
[08:28] <lankke> busybox built-in shell
[08:28] <EnvoyRising> bwayne, only touched envy onces...was a nightmare.... nvidia-settings is from nvidia
[08:28] <bwayne> lankke:   if you reply to me, be sure to put my name 'bwayne' in the text somewhere so i'll see it.
[08:28] <lankke> ok
[08:28] <lankke> bwayne: yeah so the live cd won't even work now
[08:29] <unop> awmcclain, different modules - see http://search.cpan.org/~mlehmann/IO-AIO-2.6/AIO.pm  vs  http://search.cpan.org/~mlehmann/Linux-AIO-1.9/AIO.pm
[08:29] <lankke> bwayne: i'm getting stuck at the same point
[08:29] <bwayne> lankke:  does your BIOS 'hit' the cd drive?  Does it attempt to read the drive and then fail?  OR just it just hang there like some sort of mindless idiot?
[08:29] <unop> StPatrick, which directory does ./wlan0up exist in?
[08:29] <effinboy> man.... #xorg is dead and kinda useless for answers... anyone know where I can go?
[08:29] <StPatrick> /home/ryan/rtl8187b-modified
[08:30] <StPatrick> unop, /home/ryan/rtl8187b-modified
[08:30] <cosmoshell> could someone tell me what prossesor to use for apt-build. i have a celeron but all there seems to be listed are pentiums.
[08:30] <unop> StPatrick, so, the full filename for it is /home/ryan/rtl8187b-modified/wlan0up
[08:30] <awmcclain> unop: And it looks like IO-AIO isn't an ubuntu package whereas liblinux-aio-perl is?
[08:30] <unop> StPatrick, and thats what you use
[08:31] <bwayne> StPatrick:  you may have to type of the full path to the executable script in rc.local.  like "/home/ryan/rtl8foo-modifield/nameofscript" in order to get it to work.
[08:31] <lankke> bwayne: well in the bios settings, the drive is detected properly, the problem comes just after the grub bootloader
[08:31] <StPatrick> unop,  But I'm running a command. ./wlan0up
[08:31] <lankke> bwayne: it loads for a bit... then stops when it hits that message
[08:31] <bwayne> StPatrick:  running ./wlan0up is different when ran as root and not a user.
[08:32] <unop> awmcclain, they are ubuntu packages of those particular perl modules .. looks like they both exist
[08:32] <StPatrick> bwayne,  I know I need to run it as root.
[08:32] <bwayne> StPatrick:  so you'll have to specify the FULL path to the executable.
[08:32] <richard> #ubuntu+1
[08:32] <awmcclain> unop: Really?? I've tried searching for libio-aio-perl, doesn't seem to work! Please tell me I'm doing something stupid.
[08:32] <T-Rex5> hi
[08:32] <T-Rex5> i'm trying to set up my new SATA drives on this PCI sata raid card but it seems to be taking hours
[08:32] <unop> StPatrick, ./wlan0up is only valid when you issue the command when you are in the /home/ryan/rtl8187b-modified directory .. if you change directory that command is invalid
[08:32] <T-Rex5> is my motherboard faulty or is this normal?
[08:32] <T-Rex5> its a 1terabyte drive and a 500gb drive
[08:33] <unop> StPatrick, so when you change directories you need to call the script via its full filename
[08:33] <StPatrick> unop,  I know that....... that's why i asked what i would have to put in to run ./wlan0up in that directory.
[08:33] <lankke> bwayne: if I try booting the gui it gets stuck on the first notch on the loading bar but if i boot it in text mode, the error is repeated until eventually i end up at the weird shell prompt, happens with the livecd and with the hard drive
[08:33] <bwayne> StPatrick:  so when you run your custom script from rc.local, it's ran as root in a "raw shell", so to speak.  when you run ./yourscript in a terminal while logged in as a user, the shell you use (like bash) will auto-expand your command.
[08:34] <StPatrick> Ok, well, thanks.   On a related note, Now that Ubuntu is recognizing my wifi card, any ideas why i cant seem to connect to any unsecured wifi?
[08:34] <unop> StPatrick, in rc.local, you should call it via .. /home/ryan/rtl8187b-modified/wlan0up
[08:34] <StPatrick> unop,  Ok, I see. THank you.
[08:34] <phoenix24> what is the git url for linux-kernel ??
[08:35] <Flyerfye> so no such luck, restarting didnt help my cedega/xorg problem
[08:35] <bwayne> lankke:  so booting from a livecd produces a progress bar that hangs?  sorry if my questions seem repetitive, just trying to place some context around your input.  :-)
[08:35] <unop> bwayne, i dont think thats an accurate statement, iirc rc.local is run by bash
[08:36] <damo22> u
[08:36] <awmcclain> unop: I don't see an IO::AIO ubuntu package (esp in apt-cache search aio). Is it named something funny?
[08:36] <vkennedy85> There a good way to kill the messages of people entering and leaving?
[08:36] <unop> awmcclain, libio-aio-perl doesn't seem to exist oddly enough
[08:36] <phoenix24> what is the git url for linux-kernel ??
[08:36] <awmcclain> unop: Exactly
[08:36] <bwayne> unop:  well, it's ran by the default shell, which in ubuntu, yes, is bash.  i'm trying to convey the point that the FULL path to the executable bash script is what needs to be placed in rc.local.  I think you've said really the same thing.
[08:37] <phoenix24> what is the git url for vanilla-linux-kernel ??
[08:37] <lankke> bwayne: booting from the disk drive produces a progress bar that hangs, booting from the live cd produces a progress bar which moves side to side... in both cases, after a while the gui cuts to a "busybox" shell prompt
[08:37] <awmcclain> unop: Very, very sad.
[08:37] <Flannel> !kernel | phoenix24
[08:37] <ubotu> phoenix24: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[08:37] <unop> awmcclain, you can install the perl module (to the same effect) via this command.  sudo cpan IO::AIO
[08:37] <roccity> anyone try fluxbuntu
[08:37] <roccity> think its ok
[08:38] <bwayne> lankke:  try another livecd, if you have another one.  i say to do this to test whether or not it's a problem with that particular livecd.  maybe another one will work.
[08:38] <bwayne> when troubleshooting one must maximize one's data points.   I think Spock originally said that.
[08:38] <awmcclain> unop: I know, but I'm writing automatic deployment scripts to install perlbal, and it's _much_ easier to use apt-get, which means it's MUCH better to require a package for IO::AIO. :(
[08:38] <lankke> bwayne alright mate, I'll give it a try
[08:38] <lankke> bwayne thanks for your help
[08:39] <bwayne> lankke:  hope i'm actually helping.  :-)
[08:39] <roccity> can anyone recommend some tweaks to slim ubuntu processes
[08:39] <StPatrick> Ok, well, thanks.   On a related note, Now that Ubuntu is recognizing my wifi card, any ideas why i cant seem to connect to any unsecured wifi?
[08:40] <unop> bwayne, what i was really getting at is ./yourscript isn't 'auto-expanded' by the shell  while 'yourscript' might be looked up in the directories of $PATH - note the difference between './yourscript' and 'yourscript'
[08:40] <bwayne> roccity:  install the server edition.  uninstall server stuff.  then add your desktop environment of choice using 'sudo tasksel' or apt-get.
[08:40] <unop> awmcclain, so just add this line to your script :)  same thing really.  sudo cpan IO::AIO
[08:40] <ty> how doo i take ownership of my web directory?
[08:41] <damo22> unop: its handy to add :. to the $PATH variable
[08:41] <awmcclain> unop: It just means I have to change all the dependencies and build a custom debian package, is all.
[08:41] <Tyrn_> Hi
[08:41] <unop> damo22, no it isn't . sorry, this isn't windows :) and it might be dangerous
[08:41] <Flannel> damo22: security is the reason it's not, and probably isn't a good idea for that reason.
[08:41] <Tyrn_> Someone known how to make ramdisk ?
[08:42] <unop> awmcclain, why build a debian package when you can get perl to install that module without the fuss?
[08:42] <vkennedy85> When I try to add/remove programs or update codecs why does it keep asking me to refersh the list and not let me isntall it?
[08:42] <bwayne> unop:  i agree.  the ./ "places" the command within the current working directory of the shell.  so if i'm in /home/bwayne/custom-scripts and I run ./customscript, bash is actually running /home/bwayne/custom-scripts/customscript.  that sort of environmental variable (or whateva it's called) is not set when executed from rc.local.   i think you and I agree.
[08:42] <Tyrn_> I'have made one with the command : sudo mkdir /tmp/ramdisk0 ; sudo mke2fs /dev/ram0 ; sudo mount /dev/ram0 /tmp/ramdisk0 ; sudo chmod ugoa+rwx /tmp/ramdisk0
[08:42] <unop> bwayne, right on :)
[08:42] <Terrasque> damo22: and next time you are in /tmp and type ls, and some funny guy had made an executable file called "ls" that basically says "rm -rf ~", you'll understand why adding . to path is a stellarly bad idea
[08:43] <Tyrn_> But this ramdisk is very small, how can i do one bigguer ? (512/1 Go)
[08:43] <bullgard4> Update Manager hangs. I'd like to kill it. But how? I cannot dind a process 'update notifier' in top.
[08:43] <roccity> thanks bwayne
[08:43] <damo22> Terrasque: LOL i see now
[08:43] <bwayne> Terrasque:  whoah.  if that's the case then you're hacked and you can't trust ANY shell command.
[08:43] <bullgard4> Update Manager hangs. I'd like to kill it. But how? I cannot find a process 'update notifier' in top.
[08:43] <unop> Terrasque, well, that depends on whether . was prepended or appended to the $PATH variable, but yea, that's reason enough anyway
[08:43] <awmcclain> unop: Because 1. cpan doesn't install dependencies. 2. cpan is interactive, which doesn't grok with my scripts 3. cpan doesn't automatically build and install perlbal 1.70 4. cpan also doesn't create an /etc/perlbal directory and populate it with conf files
[08:43] <roccity> i'am using the fluxbuntu distro works pretty good
[08:44] <roccity> but still have some mem issues
[08:44] <damo22> !fluxbuntu
[08:44] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is a LPAE-standard compliant, Ubuntu-based derivative that maintains the goal of running on a wide range of mobile devices and computers (low-end & high-end). It is lightweight, swift and efficient. | Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/
[08:44] <roccity> im a end-user
[08:44] <roccity> so i get programs that are some-what slim
[08:45] <bwayne> roccity:  no problem.  i think running 'sudo tasksel' might do everything you're asking from within any flavor of *buntu.  Like, you can install kubuntu and then completely flush out the kdesktop environment using tasksel.
[08:45] <roccity> i was getting into slackware for a min
[08:45] <roccity> but couldn't for the life of me get my wireless working
[08:45] <roccity> bwayne no kidding?
[08:46] <bwayne> roccity:  any "grounds up" distro will work for what you want to do.  i'd recommend arch or gentoo.  i've never tried slackware and I'm not inclined to due to my laziness.  i prefer automagical package managers.
[08:46] <unop> awmcclain, but you are writing a script, so you can get through all those bumps and oddities - otherwise, build a debian package, you know what your options are
[08:46] <unop> awmcclain, you can also have a look at the CPAN debian repository, it might have that module there as a package
[08:46] <roccity> im with you
[08:47] <roccity> im new to linux so it;s always trial and error
[08:47] <awmcclain> unop: Oh, that's a good idea! Really I'm just trying to get IO::AIO to install via packages rather than cpan.
[08:48] <bwayne> roccity:  yeah.  at least, i've worked it out like that before.  absolute bare bones would be using an ubuntu-bootstrap to get the working filesystem onto your target drive.  then you can chroot into your bare *buntu environment from within a "working" linux installation and run commands just as if you've booted into it.
[08:48] <awmcclain> unop: Since you're right, I'd rather build a package (so I can offer that to the perlbal group) rather than writing my own custom script.
[08:48] <bwayne> commands like apt-get install foo
[08:48] <unop> awmcclain, cpan is quite flexible, you can run it non-interactively if you wanted but you're right on external dependencies it doesn't handle them, but you can use apt-get in co-ordination with cpan to achieve what you want
[08:50] <awmcclain> unop: You're absolutely right. And I know you're giving me the easiest option.  I'd love to try and figure out how to port IO:AIO into a package to make the whole thing much more portable.
[08:51] <roccity> i usally just strip a installation down after an install
[08:51] <bwayne> ubuntu is just as flexible as you want to make it.  in the final analysis, it almost doesn't matter with distro you use.  If you know some basic UNIX and GNU stuff, you can get to the guts of the OS and do whatever your heart desires.
[08:51] <roccity> but i still miss some services
[08:52] <bwayne> what distinguishes one distro from another is things like package management, startup scripts, and some other configuration style things.
[08:52] <unop> awmcclain, cool, you might want to publish your work on the PPA repository (or CPAN even) so other debian/ubuntu users can benefit :)
[08:53] <roccity> yeha ive used every major dstro under the sun but i always come back to *buntu
[08:53] <roccity> in some form or another
[08:53] <awmcclain> unop: Exactly! My hope is to make perlbal really easy to install. =)
[08:53]  * Creationist can't stand anything without apt.
[08:53] <bwayne> ubuntu is very attractive because of it's awesome package management.  Easy tools and up-to-date packages.  startup scripts are a little bit tricky, IMO.
[08:53] <roccity> there are other distros out there awm that mimic apt
[08:54] <roccity> slapt-get for one
[08:54] <bwayne> not to mention the awesome user base and community of ubuntu.
[08:54] <vkennedy85> heh bwayne, I think package managemetn is what brought me here
[08:54] <srodden> Hello lovely people. I'm trying to install 8.04 beta and I find my LCD panel switches off shortly after I select the install option. The system is still running ok because the cd grinds for a while then settles down. If I ctrl-alt-del it pauses for me to hit enter then does an elegant restart, ejects the CD and reboots. Any ideas?
[08:54] <Odd-rationale> pacman is not too bad
[08:54] <roccity> yeha have to say that ubuntu comm is the best
[08:54] <Odd-rationale> srodden: #ubuntu+1 for hardy support
[08:54] <Creationist> #ubuntu+1 is the channel for Hardy support, srodden
[08:54] <Creationist> Grr
[08:54] <kadko> A question, The ubuntu hardy heron will be free in 13 days but it will be the final for all users almost free of  errors or is another beta?
[08:55] <srodden> righto, thanks.
[08:55] <roccity> srodden what burn speed did you use?
[08:55] <Creationist> kadko: Generally, Linux will always be "beta" since bugs will always be present :)
[08:55] <Creationist> Then again, that goes for ALL software.
[08:55] <srodden> heh, like windows? or tiger? :)
[08:55] <bwayne> vkennedy85:  it's great.   it's ubuntu's debian roots + modern technologies that make it such a great combination for creating a popular version of GNU/linux.
[08:55] <unop> kadko, it will be the official release -- but to assume it will be rid of errors would be unfair really
[08:55] <Creationist> srodden: Except you needen't wait 4 months for a fix :)
[08:55] <kadko> I know that
[08:55] <magnetron> kadko: when hardy is released, it's released for REAÖ
[08:55] <magnetron> *REAL
[08:56] <srodden> Creationist, providing that someone motivated wants it fixed :)
[08:56] <Creationist> srodden: True.
[08:56] <bwayne> Creationist:  not if you choose to stick with eg Debian Etch and then "track" the stable version.
[08:56] <Creationist> srodden: There are still some major bugs that I've found, reported, and heard nothing about for months... still no fixes.
[08:56] <roccity> *buntu I think is finally the gnu/linux for the masses
[08:56] <roccity> from there just up
[08:56] <kadko> mmm I was think on reinstal 7.10 but i prefer to the hardy release.
[08:56] <unop> kadko, even "almost free of errors" would be unfair - but the idea is it _should_ be stable
[08:56] <Creationist> bwayne: Since I Have no idea what any of that means, I'm assuming I wouldn't be able to do such a thing ;)
[08:57] <magnetron> !offtopic | bwayne, Creationist, roccity
[08:57] <ganastasiou> hello
[08:57] <ubotu> bwayne, Creationist, roccity: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:57] <bwayne> roccity:  ah.  well, i think macosx is the UNIX for the masses.  but ubuntu a great choice as well.
[08:57] <StPatrick>  Now that Ubuntu is recognizing my wifi card, any ideas why i cant seem to connect to any unsecured wifi?
[08:57] <local_user1> :)
[08:57] <kadko> unop: Windows always be a beta whit the bule screen :P
[08:57] <magnetron> !offtopic > kadko
[08:57] <vkennedy85> bwayne: I just got it up tonight, I had tried it on my old computer without net.  Now I got it up and running in to minor problems.  It says I don't have the right codecs for media files...but when I go to download them, I get a list, select one, confirm it and it says that the list is unavailable
[08:57] <bwayne> sry magnetron.  just trying to provide some general education for folks.
[08:57] <awmcclain> unop: Where does the CPAN debian repo live? All I'm finding are instructions on how to debify a perl module
[08:57] <bwayne> from my limited experience, of couse.
[08:57] <damo22> StPatrick: ifconfig -a > pastebin
[08:58] <roccity> bwayne: haven't used much mac since apple II
[08:58] <magnetron> bwayne: feel free to educate them in another channel, this is for support
[08:58] <unop> kadko, errm, not that i support windows but i've seen BSODs on linux - BSOD being Black Screens of Disappointment :)
[08:58] <ganastasiou> have some questions about ubuntu server edition
[08:58] <ganastasiou> server edition has live cd?
[08:58] <magnetron> roccity: PLEASE! join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:58] <kadko> well i hate the blue haha
[08:58] <local_user1> :)
[08:58] <roccity> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:58] <roccity> join/ #ubuntu-offtopic
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[08:59] <bwayne> StPatrick:  well, the step between recognizing networks and actually associating with them can be a buggy process sometimes.  i've found it's hard to really narrow in on general wireless failures sometimes.
[08:59] <uiz2442> #&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&% [WwW.About.W33d.Net RulezZz] W33D :)
[08:59] <ioe4067> #&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&% [WwW.About.W33d.Net RulezZz] W33D :)
[08:59] <vap6767> #&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&% [WwW.About.W33d.Net RulezZz] W33D :)
[08:59] <mvx2679> #&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&% [WwW.About.W33d.Net RulezZz] W33D :)
[08:59] <osw7126> #&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&% [WwW.About.W33d.Net RulezZz] W33D :)
[08:59] <magnetron> !offtopic | kadko unop
[08:59] <fzv5651> #&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&% [WwW.About.W33d.Net RulezZz] W33D :)
[08:59] <ubotu> kadko unop: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:59] <uiz2442> #&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&% [WwW.About.W33d.Net RulezZz] W33D :)
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[08:59] <nae9642> #&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&% [WwW.About.W33d.Net RulezZz] W33D :)
[08:59] <osw7126> #&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&% [WwW.About.W33d.Net RulezZz] W33D :)
[08:59] <vap6767> #&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&%#&% [WwW.About.W33d.Net RulezZz] W33D :)
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[08:59] <bwayne> whow
[08:59] <unop> !ops
[08:59] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[08:59] <_Andrew> !ops
[08:59] <unop> awmcclain, http://debian.pkgs.cpan.org/ for notes on the repository and other howtos
[08:59] <dejx> hello, i have a question
[09:00] <Mez> !traffic
[09:00] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[09:00] <Odd-rationale> !ask
[09:00] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:00] <FloodBot3> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[09:00] <roccity> dej
[09:00] <awmcclain> unop: Thank you so much for your time
[09:00] <bwayne> !botsnack
[09:00] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[09:00] <bwayne> good responsive ubotu.
[09:00] <_Rambaldi_> what just happened
[09:00] <dejx> i did "sudo password root" and change my root password. Now, i'm logged into X session with my normal user, and lets say i want to adjust time and clock
[09:01] <Creationist> _Rambaldi_: Imbreeding just happened.
[09:01] <bwayne> _Rambaldi_:  channel flooding from spammers.  pay no attention.
[09:01] <dejx> The system ask me for my root password, and non of my passwords work
[09:01] <Mez> !feedthetroll | _Rambaldi_
[09:01] <ubotu> _Rambaldi_: The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.
[09:01] <roccity> did anyone else get garble on there screen
[09:01] <dejx> Not root's, not user's
[09:01] <serif> how can i replace ms truetype fonts into amsn pls?
[09:01] <unop> dejx, this is why it is not recommended you set the root password -- have you tried using su there?
[09:02] <vkennedy85> how can I update my media codecs?
[09:02] <Creationist> vkennedy85: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:02] <StPatrick> damo22,  Here ya go, sorry for delay http://pastebin.ca/980776
[09:02] <vkennedy85> ahh thank ya
[09:02] <roccity> vkennedy sure there someone else here that know a better way but i use ubuntu-restricted
[09:02] <bwayne> roccity:  yeah.  garble.
[09:03] <roccity> that way it is updated by update-manager
[09:03] <vkennedy85> It said it couldn't find the package
[09:04] <vkennedy85> I had a similar problem trying to install gVim as well
[09:05] <serif> hi all from Turkiye
[09:05] <unop> dejx, so sudo doesn't work with either the root password or your password?
[09:05] <serif>  how can i replace ms truetype fonts into amsn pls?
[09:05] <serif> am i invisible?
[09:05] <zoidberg> hey guys i just set up my gmail account on evolution...i used the POP account....did evething right i think but i dont see the Gmail folder...i do see my other email account folder (my default one) but not my gmail one
[09:05] <atul> Hi I was try automake command to my project its give me following Error "configure.ac: no proper invocation of AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE was found"
[09:05] <magnetron> !patience | serif
[09:05] <ubotu> serif: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:05] <unop> vkennedy85, make sure you have enabled all the ubuntu repositories and mind the case of package names - i.e. gvim vs gVim
[09:06] <bwayne> serif:  your problem is so very application specific that it requires someone with working knowledge of amsn to be able to help you.
[09:06] <serif> am in patience right now
[09:06] <bwayne> serif:  it may be that no one here is that familiar with amsn.
[09:07] <zoidberg> can anyone help me with evolution and my gmail account?
[09:07] <StPatrick> damo22,  did you get my link?
[09:07] <vkennedy85> Where are the repositories enabled?
[09:07] <unop> serif, if no one knows the answer, we can't help you, - try searching the official amsn documentation
[09:07] <damo22> StPatrick:  sudo dhclient wlan0
[09:07] <unop> serif, you can also ask the guys in #amsn
[09:07] <bwayne> serif:  it may be better to inspect the help included with amsn in order to find out where you can ask questions and such.
[09:07] <jscinoz> Is there any way to do a mass downgrade of packages (I have 300 packages, each with 2 versions installable, they are all currently at the higher version but i must downgrade all ofthem) any way to automate this or will i have to manually downgrade each package
[09:08] <dejx> unop no, sudo doesn't work
[09:08] <bwayne> vkennedy85:  IIRC, /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:08] <unop> !repositories
[09:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[09:08] <damo22> StPatrick: cat /etc/network/interfaces > pastebin
[09:08] <Tortuas> Hi.  I'm new to linux and ubuntu.  I managed to install it and get most things running.  However, the sound is really quiet.
[09:08] <bazhang> jscinoz: why would you want to do that?
[09:08] <StPatrick> damo22,  want me to pastebin these to you?
[09:08] <bwayne> !downgrade
[09:08] <Tortuas> if i turn up the sound i get distortion, but it's sitll not that very loud
[09:08] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[09:08] <Tortuas> anyone know why?
[09:08] <vkennedy85> thanks unop
[09:08] <damo22> StPatrick:  yeah
[09:08] <serif> ok thanks
[09:09] <StPatrick> damo22,  Will do. Thank you.
[09:09] <damo22> StPatrick: cat /etc/network/interfaces > pastebin
[09:09] <unop> vkennedy85, i dont think that will answer your question tho -- ask someone who uses gnome for more
[09:09] <StPatrick> damo22,  just saw that .. sorry =/
[09:09] <bwayne> Tortuas:  so you can hear sounds, it's just that they aren't very loud?
[09:09] <jscinoz> bazhang, it'll make you cringe... i was half asleep (and possibly intoxicated) and decided to dist-upgrade while having both ubuntu hardy and debian unstable repos enabled :P
[09:09] <unop> vkennedy85, iirc, it's accessible from within the gnome admin menu somewhere
[09:09] <jscinoz> X3
[09:09] <jscinoz> XD*
[09:09] <Tortuas> bwayne:  yes.  the sound is just very quiet.  if i turn it up in the OS, i get distortion and it's still not very loud
[09:09] <unop> vkennedy85, should be named "software properties" or something similar
[09:10] <bazhang> jscinoz: you may wish to backup; no telling what the 'fix' might do
[09:10] <vkennedy85> unop: I actually checked that, I do not have the GUI the site shows for it
[09:10] <StPatrick> damo22, http://pastebin.ca/980778
[09:10] <jscinoz> bazhang :P hey thats what i run hardy for :P the fun factor :P
[09:10] <unop> vkennedy85, you can always edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file (as root) and uncomment the repositories
[09:10] <jscinoz> i also use :P too much...
[09:10] <bwayne> Tortuas:  are you using an integrated sound system, like an Intel integrated motherboard, or do you have a separate audio card.
[09:10] <bwayne> ?
[09:11] <damo22> StPatrick: cat /etc/network/interfaces ... not /etc/netwrk
[09:11] <damo22> StPatrick: you made a typo
[09:11] <Tortuas> bwayne: i think it's integrated.  I'm on a Thinkpad T60
[09:11] <vkennedy85> unop: alright I'm going to try it right now, thanks
[09:11] <StPatrick> damo22,  man, sorry. its late.
[09:11] <jscinoz> bazhang, at least i didn't bork it too bad, it still boots and X starts fine, just some oh so minor things such as... eveyrthing else being horribly broken :P
[09:11] <jscinoz> dependency hell is a fun place.
[09:11] <bwayne> Tortuas:  what version of ubuntu?  Gutsy, Feisty, ??
[09:12] <Tortuas> bwayne:  I'm using 8.
[09:12] <StPatrick> damo22, http://pastebin.ca/980781
[09:12] <roccity> huh
[09:12] <bwayne> Tortuas:  the beta version?
[09:12] <Tortuas> bwayne:  8.04
[09:12] <bazhang> jscinoz: I dont feel confident on recommending a course of action here; just to back up some of the really crucial data you have--"just in case"
[09:12] <magnetron> !hardy | Tortuas
[09:12] <ubotu> Tortuas: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:12] <Tortuas> bwayne:  the final version has been released?
[09:12] <dejx> http://rafb.net/p/w4PnX911.html how could i fix that?
[09:12] <magnetron> Tortuas: no
[09:12] <damo22> StPatrick: so you know that your wired interface is disabled
[09:13] <Tortuas> ah thanks
[09:13] <StPatrick> damo22,  it is? Im on it right now....
[09:13] <roccity> anyone know anything bout xfe??
[09:13] <jscinoz> bazhang, i've got separate home and root partitions, and a backup only 16hrs old, won't matter if i bork it more :P
[09:13] <bazhang> dejx: care to give a bit of background first? what you have tried, what errors you have gotten etc.
[09:13] <jscinoz> I <3 duplicity
[09:14] <bazhang> roccity: xfs or xfce?
[09:14] <unop> roccity, xfe or xfce?
[09:14] <damo22> StPatrick: do you know the wireless essid
[09:14] <roccity> i keep getting popups taking bout one of my windows shares is not mounting
[09:14] <bwayne> Tortuas:  no you're using what's called a "beta".  sometimes things won't work as expected.  try using a current release version, 7.10, for example.  if you're hardware is really new, it may not be that well supported yet.  but first thing is to start working with the stable version of the OS.
[09:14] <roccity> xfe file manager
[09:14] <StPatrick> damo22, NETGEAR
[09:14] <dejx> bazhang i tries with sudo and no work
[09:14] <Tortuas> unfortunately 7.10 installer won't work with my ATI x1400 card
[09:14] <unop> roccity, a little bit, what do you want to know?
[09:14] <dejx> I really dont have any idea what to do
[09:14] <dejx> X works fine with normal users
[09:14] <magnetron> Tortuas, bwayne: beta support in #ubuntu+1 ONLY, please
[09:14] <bazhang> dejx you tried what with sudo; what are you trying to accomplish
[09:14] <unop> dejx, have you tried su?
[09:15] <jscinoz> whee, only 254 packages leftto manuall downgrade >_<
[09:15] <dejx> su root? and then xeyes? yes.  same error
[09:15] <roccity> how to stop the popups saying that an smb file didn't mount even unmounted the share and I still get it
[09:15] <jscinoz> i made myself sad :(
[09:15] <damo22> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[09:15] <damo22> wireless-essid NETGEAR
[09:15] <dejx> bazhang i'm trying to run xeyes with root
[09:15] <bazhang> roccity: you talking about thunar?
[09:15] <bwayne> Tortuas: /join #ubuntu+1  <-- type that into the channel here.
[09:15] <damo22> you need to add those 2 lines to /etc/network/interfaces
[09:15] <roccity> no xfe
[09:16] <unop> dejx, so wait. does 'su root' actually work? forget xeyes for now.
[09:16] <StPatrick> damo22,  Will that keep me from being able to connect to other random wireless points?
[09:16] <dejx> unop yes
[09:16] <unop> dejx, right, and what happens when you try and launch xeyes from within a root shell?
[09:16] <roccity> bazhang msg/ file manager
[09:16] <damo22> StPatrick: im not an expert on wireless... sorry
[09:16] <StPatrick> damo22,  No need to appologize :)
[09:16] <roccity> msg/ bazhang
[09:17] <dejx> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server and in the next line Xlib: No protocol specified
[09:17] <roccity> i can't use irc lol
[09:17] <StPatrick> damo22,  Thanks for your help. I'll try adding those lines, and see if i can connect
[09:17] <damo22> StPatrick: do you use security?
[09:17] <magnetron> StPatrick: what does iwconfig tell you?
[09:17] <damo22> StPatrick: iwconfig > pastebin
[09:17] <StPatrick> damo22,  No it's completely unlocked.
[09:18] <bwayne> dejx:  you're attempting to run a graphical program from a root shell?
[09:18] <dejx> bwayne yes
[09:18] <unop> dejx, yea, that's a problem you will encounter when launching X applications when the environment is not setup properly .. i suggest you invalidate the root password and launch the command this way.  gksudo xeyes
[09:18] <bwayne> dejx:  gnome or KDE?
[09:18] <bazhang> roccity: not sure about the xfe you speak of; are you thinking of something else?
[09:18] <StPatrick> magnetron, damo http://pastebin.ca/980785
[09:18] <dejx> kde
[09:18] <unop> bwayne, he's set the root password and sudo doesn't work as expected now
[09:19] <roccity> no it's a file manager like the old windows i think
[09:19] <bwayne> unop:  ahh ...
[09:19] <Tortuas> well all i can say is i am f*ckin impressed with ubuntu
[09:19] <roccity> works great cept for that
[09:19] <Tortuas> i may not ever go back to windows
[09:19] <damo22> StPatrick: it says you're not in range of an access point
[09:19] <bazhang> Tortuas: language please
[09:19] <roccity> getting a popup every 10 min
[09:19] <StPatrick> damo22,  I have not yet added those lines, and i am definitly in range.
[09:19] <ganastasiou> which avi player should i use?
[09:19] <Tortuas> how do I get that nifty mac style launcher on the bottom?
[09:19] <stefan_> hi
[09:20] <unop> dejx, from a root shell. run this command.  passwd -L root  # then exit and use gksudo, etc
[09:20] <StPatrick> damo22,  I can see about 13 points listed when i click on the thing in the upper right
[09:20] <bwayne> Tortuas:   your OS is a tool.  you want to use the correct tool for the job.
[09:20] <Ragnaroek> Hello
[09:20] <bazhang> ganastasiou: mplayer?
[09:20] <stefan_> ganastasiou: Mplayer, VLC, Xine are quite cool
[09:20] <damo22> s
[09:20] <ganastasiou> i have mplayer and vlx
[09:20] <damo22> StPatrick: i dont know
[09:20] <unop> dejx, actually make that.  passwd -l root
[09:20] <ganastasiou> vlc
[09:20] <ganastasiou> but
[09:20] <ganastasiou> mplayer doesnt show me the subs well
[09:20] <b4l74z4r> i installed a kde chat client called konversation in ubuntu and whenever i connect to a server, an entry pops up in the taskbar "launching knotify", it stays for a few seconds then goes away, does anyone have an idea what that's all about?
[09:20] <StPatrick> damo22,  me either.. it's freakin weird.
[09:20] <agentsoul> Hello, I'm working with hardy, unfortunenatly it comes with an old unuseable (the numerical integration isn't working) version of qtiplot 0.9.3 rc2. The stable and fixed version 0.9.4 is released but only available as source. Where or who can I ask for some help.
[09:20] <dejx> unop
[09:21] <bazhang> tortuas that is called avant-window-navigator
[09:21] <stefan_> i want to prevent ubuntu from loading the lp module at startup. i removed it from /etc/modeules, but its still being loaded
[09:21] <dejx> i use kde not gnome
[09:21] <bazhang> agentsoul: please see the hardy channel thanks
[09:21] <stefan_> ganastasiou: then xein or vlc.. xine is more clicky :)
[09:21] <unop> dejx, ok, same thing but then use kdesu instead of gksu
[09:21] <agentsoul> bazhang: is it ubuntu+1 ?
[09:21] <ganastasiou> and vlc when i go full screen it shows me huge subs
[09:21] <bazhang> agentsoul: aye ;]
[09:22] <agentsoul> bazhang: thx
[09:22] <bwayne> dejx:  IIRC, kdesu is the program to invoke in order to launch a kde application with escalated priviledges.
[09:22] <bwayne> dejx:  like "kdesu konqueror" to invoke a root konqueror.
[09:22] <unop> bwayne, not just kde applications tho, normal X apps too
[09:22] <bazhang> b4l74z4r: this is gutsy?
[09:23] <Tortuas> bazhang: thanks
[09:23] <osfameron> kdesu =~ gksudo ?
[09:23] <b4l74z4r> bazhang: yes
[09:23] <dejx> ok i did that
[09:23] <dejx> with kdesu
[09:23] <dejx> but it asks me for password and i type mine users
[09:23] <dejx> Ow, i forgot to tell, we have NIS
[09:23] <bwayne> unop:   i agree.   graphical apps need a special environment, brought on my kdesu in KDE or gksudo in GNome, in order to run correctly.
[09:23] <bazhang> Tortuas: np; you have to enable the ppa repo and install it from there for gutsy; it is in the repos for the next release
[09:24] <ScriptDevil> is it possible to do an apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop and then completely remove the ubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <ScriptDevil> ?
[09:24] <bwayne> unop:  i'm not sure if gksudo would invoke a kde-app correctly.
[09:24] <unop> dejx, it shouldn't matter, just make sure the root passwd is invalidated first and sudo/kdesu should work fine afterwards
[09:24] <bwayne> ScriptDevil:  yes.  aptitude is probably the best tool for the job.
[09:25] <srodden> Hello again :) I have a 7.10 install and I removed libcap1, was too hasty to confirm the removal and I noticed after that I've removed some stuff I didn't want to. Stupidly I didn't record what packages they were and after a reboot I have no networking. How can I determine what was removed and/or what depends on libcap1?
[09:25] <ScriptDevil> bwayne: what will my startup screen tell me, kubuntu or ubuntu?
[09:25] <Ragnaroek> ??
[09:25] <bazhang> ScriptDevil: sure, but you need to remove more than just the metapackage; there is a link with /msg ubotu puregnome or purekde forget which--follow that link and at the bottome of the page is a descritpion of all the packages you have to remove
[09:25] <StPatrick> No one else has any ideas about my wireless?
[09:25] <Tortuas> bazhang:  I did - sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator and it seems to have installed alright
[09:25] <dejx> hm, not ever sudo ls /root dont work
[09:25] <ScriptDevil> bazhang: thanks
[09:25] <dejx> do i must change /etc/sudoers ?
[09:25] <unop> bwayne, it ought to, iirc, kdesu/gksu etc sets up the X environment so that graphical apps (being gtk, qt, tk, etc) can function
[09:25] <bwayne> ScriptDevil:  if you "sudo aptitude remove --purge ubuntu-desktop" and "sudo aptitude install kde-desktop" ,  the KDM login manager ought to be the one invoked at startup.
[09:26] <bazhang> ScriptDevil: beware though; the kde4 is really different ;]
[09:26] <bwayne> ScriptDevil:  IIRC, dpkg will ask you to choose a default login manager.  you can choose kdm at that time and it'll look like a fresh kubuntu install.
[09:26] <unop> dejx, did you reset the root password?
[09:26] <dejx> passwd -l root
[09:26] <dejx> yes:D
[09:26] <unop> dejx, if you've done that -- what does thsi command give you?  id; groups
[09:27] <unop> this*
[09:27] <bwayne> ScriptDevil:  if you use aptitude for this and you don't usually use aptitude, running aptitude --update is probably recommended to do first.
[09:27] <dejx> uid=10064(dejand) gid=10065(dejand) groups=10065(dejand)
[09:27] <dejx> dejand
[09:27] <icesword> anyone knows if this program is open sourced?http://www.gigaget.com/
[09:28] <bazhang> icesword: they will say on the page if they are gpl v whatever or not
[09:28] <srodden> icesword, have you visted the site and tried to download the source yet? :)
[09:28] <ScriptDevil> bwayne: also my x resolution is poor. At only 1024 * 768 when i can do 1152 * 1024. How do i increase it. It doesnt show up in settings->desktop. Hardy here
[09:28] <unop> dejx, hmm, thats quite unusual, you are not member of the admin group which is required to use sudo -- you seem to have changed the system around quite a bit
[09:28] <bazhang> argh more hidden hardy-ites
[09:29] <ganastasiou> ubuntu from default they have XINE?
[09:29] <dejx> as i said
[09:29] <dejx> my user is in NIS
[09:29] <bwayne> icesword:  it appears that you can only download .exe files, which are executable Microsoft Windows binaries.  a good rule of thumb is "can I download the tar.gz file?"
[09:29] <dejx> "test" user is that user i typed in install
[09:29] <magnetron> !enter | dejx
[09:29] <ubotu> dejx: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:29] <unop> dejx, you'll need to logon as root now (however you do with your NIS server) and put yourself in the admin group or edit the sudoers file to give your user sudo capbilities
[09:30] <dejx> ok i'm root
[09:31] <dejx> what to do?
[09:31] <faraonxf> good day!
[09:31] <srodden> I'm getting a zlib_inflate error when trying to install 8.04. Does this indicate a corrupt install medium or somethign else?
[09:31] <bwayne> icesword:  download managers of that sort are generally considered anti-net etiquette.  without being able to see the source it's just a "block box" program whose behavior might not be net-friendly.
[09:31] <unop> dejx, usermod -G admin dejand
[09:31] <bwayne> icesword:  kget is a good KDE program to manage downloads.
[09:31] <dejx> dejand not found in /etc/passwd
[09:32] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for all hardy questions folks; thanks
[09:32] <dejx> NIS,..
[09:32] <srodden> doh, wrong channel
[09:32] <unop> dejx, or the equivalent if your NIS server uses a different means so NIS is updated
[09:32] <bazhang> I may as well repeat that message every five minutes ;]
[09:32] <dejx> i didnt quite understand last one unop
[09:33] <hirak99> what is a nice command line client for instant messenging to yahoo and google talk?
[09:33] <unop> dejx, i'm not sure how your NIS server manages users and groups, so i cant tell you how to accomplish this.. you might know how this is done tho which is what i meant
[09:34] <unop> hirak99, i'm not sure one even exists
[09:34] <CK_MY> who using virtual box ? i cant run it because "The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user" anyone can help[ me ?
[09:34] <dejx> http://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/debian-howto/nis.html i'm setting my computers via this tutorial
[09:35] <hirak99> sorry i meant terminal based messenging, not exactly command line
[09:35] <bazhang> screen does IM?
[09:36] <dejx> Ok i added manualy in /etc/group my user in admin group
[09:36] <dejx> and
[09:36] <faraonxf> can i help&
[09:36] <bwayne> CK_MY:  you'll need to add your user to the vboxusers group, log out and then log back in.
[09:36] <bazhang> !enter | dejx
[09:36] <ubotu> dejx: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:36] <hischild> i would like verification that my server is reachable at ssh on the internet.
[09:37] <egoleo_> great i am in now
[09:37] <bwayne> CK_MY:  IIRC, 'sudo gpasswd -a username vboxusers' is the general syntax you'll be using.
[09:37] <pat5star> is anyone else sad that artie quit today?
[09:37] <bwayne> pat5star: who's artie?
[09:37] <pat5star> lange
[09:37] <bazhang> pat5star: ubuntu support question?
[09:38] <pat5star> yes
[09:38] <bazhang> pat5star: if not then please join #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[09:38] <egoleo_> plse how do i use find or locate to find a word or character in a file?
[09:38] <dejx> Ok, i did passwd -l root again, and trying to run kdesu xeyes and it freezes now
[09:38] <pat5star> the howard stern show uses ubuntu in their studio, but artie quit today, just wondering if anyone else was upset
[09:38] <dejx> i mean, keep loading,...
[09:39] <pat5star> would that be considered off topic?
[09:39] <bazhang> yes
[09:39] <hischild> pat5star, yes
[09:39] <pat5star> oh sorry
[09:40] <unop> dejx, does this give you anything? grep -i $USER /etc/NIS/passwd
[09:40] <pat5star> plz forgive me
[09:40] <CK_MY> bwayne, 1 user possible can have 2 group ?
[09:40] <Stevethepirate> /s/ /\n/ is win
[09:40] <pat5star> baba booey
[09:40] <unop> CK_MY, sure
[09:40] <Stevethepirate> *s/ /\n/ is win
[09:41] <pat5star> Steve: no matter how clever you try to appear, it's not working
[09:41] <bwayne> CK_MY:  i'm not sure what you mean "have 2 group".
[09:41] <Stevethepirate> pat5star: Referring to the !enter | dejx comment above :P
[09:41] <Stevethepirate> Replace all spaces with newlines :P
[09:41] <pat5star> Steve: no, the /sn/s/sns//sn/s///sn/..ss    stuff
[09:42] <Stevethepirate> Best way to irritate the shit out of an irc channel
[09:42] <pat5star> lol
[09:42] <bazhang> too bad no ops are looking in now
[09:42] <unop> Stevethepirate, stop that now
[09:42] <jussi01> !ohmy | Stevethepirate
[09:42] <ubotu> Stevethepirate: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[09:42] <Stevethepirate> Ah.
[09:42] <Stevethepirate> K
[09:42] <pat5star> bazhang: what, because of me?
[09:42] <Stevethepirate> pat5star: String replacement of ' ' to '\n'
[09:42] <pat5star> bazhang: would you prefer I go bug the #windows channel?
[09:42] <J-_> To get write permissions to /var/www/sites/default/settings.php I can just "chmod 777 /var/www/default/settings.php" correct?
[09:43] <J-_> sudo in front
[09:43] <Chousuke> yes, you can, but it's not correct ;P
[09:43] <unop> J-_, it's better to add yourself to the www-data group
[09:43] <Stevethepirate> You don't want anyone having read write access to it
[09:43] <x0x> anyone here who can help me with proftpd?
[09:43] <Stevethepirate> yeah, make www-data then make it like 600 for that group.
[09:43] <J-_> unop: How can I do that?
[09:43] <Almindor> if I open a text file (eg. .php) how can I see the char encoding being used in gedit? (I need to know if it's utf-8 or what)
[09:43] <pat5star> J-_: even better, chmod -R 777 /
[09:43] <Chousuke> J-_: adduser you www-data
[09:43] <pat5star> then everything will work
[09:43] <unop> Stevethepirate, 600 wont let him write to that directory, he'll need 660
[09:44] <CK_MY> bwayne, i dont know how to explain , because i new to linux
[09:44] <Almindor> or any other editor for that matter
[09:44] <J-_> pat5star should be kicked.
[09:44] <bazhang> indeed
[09:44] <CK_MY> unop, how to add 2 group in 1 user ?
[09:44] <BanghiNation> Hello, I have installed the drivers/firmware for my ipw2200. When I give the iwconfig command I see it listed now. I would like to know if there is a tool available under ubuntu that users can use to make a connection with a wlan. These users don't have much linux experience. They are used to Windows. So I'd prefer a tool similar to the windows functionality to select a wlan. Any suggestions?
[09:44] <J-_> Chousuke: thanks
[09:44] <unop> J-_, sudo usermod -G www-data $USER
[09:44] <hischild> pat5star, please refrain from giving useless advice.
[09:44] <pat5star> what was wrong with my advice?
[09:44] <J-_> pat5star: write permissions to root?
[09:44] <J-_> That's not funny
[09:44] <pat5star> that's what I did with my install, I have no problems
[09:44] <Stevethepirate> unop: Ah, indeed.
[09:45] <hischild> pat5star, you should never give all permissions to everyone.
[09:45] <unop> CK_MY,  for i in group1 group2; do sudo usermod -G $i $USER; done
[09:45] <x0x> ANYONE here who can help me with proftpd
[09:45] <x0x> ?
[09:45] <Chousuke> unop: that's a bad command.
[09:45] <bazhang> BanghiNation: the networkmanager-applet should do that fine
[09:45] <unop> Chousuke, no it's not
[09:45] <gh0st> how can i read my gpu temperature (nvidia)?
[09:45] <Chousuke> unop: it'll remove you from any group you're in that you don't list.
[09:45] <nalioth> pat5star: #ubuntu-offtopic is where we talk about howard
[09:45] <BanghiNation> ok, I'll install that, thanks
[09:45] <pat5star> kicked? I can't believe that! I'm trying to help and being threatened with being kicked....that's the thanks I get?
[09:45] <bwayne> CK_MY:  ok.  from the error you're getting, it appears that the user you're trying to use virtualbox with doesn't have the right permissions.
[09:45] <nalioth> pat5star: #ubuntu is where we provide quality help
[09:46] <unop> Chousuke, i dont remember that ever being the case before
[09:46] <bazhang> BanghiNation: should be there by default; look in the top right of the panel
[09:46] <pat5star> nalioth: I'm not talking about that anymore since there doesn't seem to be any interest
[09:46] <Chousuke> unop: the manual page says so
[09:46] <bwayne> gh0st:  'apt-cache search nvidia'  will probably reveal some tools that you can install.
[09:46] <Chousuke> unop: you want usermod -aG
[09:47] <pat5star> hischild: why is my advice useless? would it now work in this guys case?
[09:47] <pat5star> not
[09:47] <pat5star> I mean
[09:47] <bazhang> oy
[09:47] <dejx> unop bazhang thank you guys, i maganed to fix it!
[09:47] <Chousuke> pat5star: no, it wouldn't.
[09:47] <hischild> pat5star, it would work, but also open up a pretty big security hole
[09:47] <dejx> Only problem is that i dont have setted my root password
[09:47] <bazhang> !yay | dejx
[09:47] <ubotu> dejx: Glad you made it! :-)
[09:47] <Chousuke> pat5star: it would've broken his system.
[09:47] <gh0st> bwayne; i have read it should be in nvidia-settings, but it's not
[09:48] <pat5star> but it would work
[09:48] <pat5star> broke it?
[09:48] <Chousuke> pat5star: no, it wouldn't.
[09:48] <pat5star> no it wouldn't
[09:48] <Chousuke> yes it would.
[09:48] <CK_MY> unop, usermod is my username ? and -G $i $USER
[09:48] <Chousuke> chmod -R / anything will break your system
[09:48] <gh0st> also, is there any way i can know the model of my MoBo wihtout  opening the case?
[09:49] <bazhang> gh0st: perhaps lshw in the terminal not sure though if it is that thorough
[09:49] <Chousuke> CK_MY: you want "usermod -aG group username"
[09:49] <unop> Chousuke, assuming i have the same manpage you do, -G does not say anything about removing the user from the groups he currently exists in but it does say "  A list of supplementary groups which the user is also a member of "
[09:49] <pat5star> Chousuke: that command you just typed wouldn't work, you have to assign an owner like chmod -R root:root /, then it will work, that' syour problem
[09:49] <Chousuke> CK_MY: but adduser user group is easier.
[09:49] <CK_MY> Chousuke, 1 user can done all thing is easier ^.^
[09:50] <unop> CK_MY, usermod is the command .. all you need do is change the values of group1 and group2 in that command
[09:50] <pat5star> this is why windows is so much easier, but that's an argument for another day
[09:50] <unop> pat5star, thats offtopic
[09:50] <Chousuke> unop: "If the user  is currently a member of a group which is not listed, the user will be removed from the group."
[09:50] <pat5star> unop: that's why I said it's a topic for another day, duh!
[09:51] <Chousuke> pat5star: your command wouldn't work
[09:51] <jpatrick> !guidelines > pat5star
[09:51] <unop> pat5star, you shouldnt need to mention it :)
[09:51] <Chousuke> pat5star: you don't change users with chmod
[09:51] <bazhang> !ot | pat5star
[09:51] <ubotu> pat5star: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:51] <pat5star> what? am I all messed up?
[09:51] <Chousuke> pat5star: and I *intended* for my command not to work because "chmod -R /"  with any permission string will mess up your system
[09:52] <Chousuke> at least if you use sudo.
[09:52] <Chousuke> without it, you'll just mess up your home directory and a few other places.
[09:52] <CK_MY> unop, sudo usermod -G $ck $vboxusers
[09:52] <pat5star> oh yeah, ok...I'm messed up...I better come back tomorrow, cya all, take care :)
[09:52] <Chousuke> CK_MY: don't forget the -a
[09:52] <Chousuke> CK_MY: and without the $s
[09:52] <CK_MY> Chousuke, will mess home ?
[09:52] <Chousuke> CK_MY: no, that won't.
[09:53] <CK_MY> will mess home folder ?
[09:53] <Chousuke> CK_MY: look, just use useradd
[09:53] <pat5star> but what I meant, which makes your system easier to manage is: chmod -R 777 /
[09:53] <Chousuke> pat5star: ... no
[09:53] <CK_MY> Chousuke,  what is the differenece ?
[09:54] <pat5star> I got that mixed up with chown -R root:root /
[09:54] <Chousuke> CK_MY: with usermod -G, you may inadvertently remove yourself from a group
[09:54] <Chousuke> !ops | pat5star
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[09:55] <Madpilot> heh
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[09:55] <CK_MY> Chousuke, so the best way is add new user ?
[09:55] <bazhang> thanks Madpilot jpatrick
[09:55] <hischild> thank you jpatrick
[09:55] <Chousuke> CK_MY: no
[09:55] <chalxedony> interesting
[09:55] <Chousuke> CK_MY: "adduser user group" adds "user" to the group "group"
[09:55] <CK_MY> Chousuke, so which is the best way ?
[09:55] <Chousuke> CK_MY: that's what you want, isn't it?
[09:56] <CK_MY> Chousuke,  yup
[09:56] <reduser5> hey all
[09:56] <Chousuke> CK_MY: usermod can do it too, but I prefer using adduser because you can't mess it up
[09:56] <bazhang> hi reduser5
[09:57] <reduser5> is there a way i can temporarily disable ip4 or make ip6 the primary connection method?
[09:57] <Chousuke> reduser5: connect directly to an ipv6 address?
[09:57] <CK_MY> Chousuke, thanks
[09:57] <reduser5> let me try
[09:58] <bbyever>              /msg nickserv set hide email on
[09:58] <bbyever> opps
[09:58] <bbyever> sorry
[09:58] <bazhang> bbyever: no spaces before /
[09:58] <bbyever> yea, thanks
[10:01] <CK_MY> who know how to set clone monitor and tv ? i have nvidia 7300LE?
[10:03] <janet> I bought a wireless laptop with ubuntu last week so I am very new to how it works. Yesterday I bough a HP Photosmart C4380 printer (wrireless). I can get it to print if I plug in the USB cable but I have no idea how to make it print wireless. The USB cable is in the way so I cannot leave it set up as it is. I have put the CD-ROM into the drive but have no idea what to do next. Can anybody help please?
[10:03] <bazhang> CK_MY: twinhead? both show the exact same thing?
[10:04] <CK_MY> bazhang, yes , i have monitor and tv , main will be monitor the tv will be the clone ... exact the same thing
[10:04] <ogre> im trying to install a package from source. i have navigated to directory and tried mak and ./make to no avail. there is a .pl file that says install. any suggestions?
[10:04] <J-_> What is the GD Library called for PHP? Drupal is complaining it's missing.
[10:05] <bazhang> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead CK_MY this should answer that; I just generally plug it in and it works
[10:05] <SanitariuM> Running Xubuntu... have a PCMCIA D-Link DWL-650+ wifi card... nm-applet lists the card and available networks... but is unable to connect/stay connected to any networks.
[10:06] <SanitariuM> Example... unsecured network with no encryption... public access... STRONG signal... it connects, then disconnects, then connects, then disconnects rapidly
[10:06] <bazhang> janet: is this a shared printer?
[10:06] <CK_MY> bazhang, u using nvidia 7300LE too ?
[10:06] <SanitariuM> I ran Kwifimanager to watch what it was doing...
[10:06] <bazhang> CK_MY: the desktop version of that card; is that a laptop?
[10:06] <SanitariuM> the access point and local ip kept resetting to 0 then back to normal values then back and forth and over and over
[10:06] <CK_MY> bazhang, no i using desktop
[10:07] <janet> bazhang- I have 2 wireless laptops - Toshiba on windows - I installed the printer easily on that one and the Dell running on Ubuntu
[10:07] <SanitariuM> I had this same problem with the laptop on Windows XP when using the default network manager... the problem was resolved by simply using the *software* provided by d-link for network management
[10:07] <bazhang> CK_MY: not sure of the exact name; it is the 256MB 7300 one though
[10:07] <SanitariuM> I've tried half a dozen network managers under linux here and all keep reproducing the same problem
[10:07] <CK_MY> bazhang, yup
[10:07] <tuntun> ♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪
[10:08] <bazhang> tuntun: no music here please
[10:08] <icesword> lol
[10:08] <foibles> hi there
[10:08] <foibles> i just installed another distro on another partition, but now my grub is all messed up
[10:08] <icesword> ♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪
[10:08] <foibles> i can't load ubuntu anymore
[10:08] <SanitariuM> anyone?
[10:08] <foibles> how do you fix your grub loader up?
[10:08] <jpatrick> !ot | icesword, tuntun
[10:08] <ubotu> icesword, tuntun: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:08] <icesword> tuntun, where are you
[10:08] <hirak99> foibles: sorry to hear that, but it is easy to fix
[10:09] <foibles> hirak99: good good!
[10:09] <hirak99> foibles: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[10:09] <bazhang> janet this is gutsy?
[10:09] <janet> bazhang- I believe so
[10:09] <hirak99> foibles: just instead of "find /boot/grub/stage1", you do "find /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[10:09] <tuntun> oh hai ЮЭ
[10:10] <hirak99> foibles: the rest of the steps remain same.
[10:10] <bazhang> janet: try lsb_release -a in the terminal to make sure please
[10:10] <janet> bazhang - ok
[10:10] <foibles> hirak99: im currently on gentoo
[10:10] <foibles> will these instructions work for it?
[10:10] <bazhang> tuntun: please stop
[10:10] <hirak99> foibles: it will work on gentoo also yes
[10:11] <foibles> hirak99: okee dokee
[10:11] <hirak99> foibles: the idea is to rewrite the bootsector with grub loader
[10:12] <theone> ดีครับมีคนไทยไหมครับ
[10:13] <SanitariuM> any ideas on my wifi issue?
[10:13] <foibles> hirak99: is it best to do this from a livecd, as my reading seems to indicate, i merely ask for a second opinion
[10:13] <janet> bazhang- yes, it is 7.10 gutsy
[10:13] <tengulre> theone: where are u come from?
[10:13] <bazhang> http://mytechieself.blogspot.com/2008/01/ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-v710-makes.html janet look at this please
[10:14] <tengulre> why I got Hash Sum misatch when I running apt-get update ?
[10:14] <bazhang> theone english please
[10:14] <janet> bazhang- ok
[10:14] <hirak99> foibles: if you have the live cd probably better to do it from there; though there shouldn't be any difference if you have latest version of grub in gentoo
[10:14] <icesword> theone, hahahaha,bird languauge
[10:14] <unop> that looks like thai to me
[10:15] <bazhang> icesword: offtopic
[10:15] <icesword> bazhang, :(
[10:16] <bazhang> SanitariuM: your card is in roaming mode? do you need to use gui? or is cli okay
[10:17] <SanitariuM> yes card is in roaming mode
[10:17] <bazhang> SanitariuM: this is gutsy correct? do you use cli--or must it be gui
[10:17] <SanitariuM> select network, thing tries to connect, then goes whack with connect/disconnects
[10:17] <SanitariuM> yes gutsy
[10:18] <SanitariuM> unfortunately laptop ain't with me right now, tis at friend's house waiting for me to come over to fix it hehe
[10:18] <bazhang> SanitariuM: the reason I mention cli is that we can diagnose errors more easily
[10:18] <janet> bazhang - I have read the webpage - this is probably a silly question but do I need to plug the printer via the USB into the router to start with? The page says make sure the printer is configured and attached to your router.
[10:19] <SanitariuM> not familiar with cli, bazhang... still rather new, learning as i go
[10:19] <bazhang> janet: that would be the way to go yes
[10:19] <SanitariuM> my next guess would be to d/l the xp drivers for the card and use ndiswrapper on em
[10:19] <SanitariuM> airplus.inf, airplus.sys
[10:19] <SanitariuM> would those work under ndis?
[10:19] <janet> bazhang - ok - thanks - I will log off now as I have to move the printer across the room and move furniture. But thanks.
[10:19] <SanitariuM> being it's a pcmcia card
[10:19] <bazhang> SanitariuM: well we could provide you with the commands to troubleshoot this via cli; it would be more informative with the error messages it might give
[10:20] <n2j3> any idea on how to save .bash_history in RAM instead of disk? trying hard to minimise disk writes :s
[10:20] <SanitariuM> i'll have to get the thing on wired connection and come back and hope someone's around
[10:20] <icesword> lol
[10:20] <SanitariuM> cuz i've been googling this for well over an hour now
[10:20] <icesword> n2j3, how do you ran ubuntu in a vm or ?
[10:20] <StPatrick> using Compiz in Ubuntu?
[10:20] <bazhang> SanitariuM: with this many people someone is always around ;]
[10:20] <n2j3> no, off a flashdisk icesword
[10:21] <hirak99> why don't these people release there source codes, or atleast a driver for linux? don't they realize people will slowly stop buying their products
[10:21] <n2j3> linutop2 \o/
[10:21] <icesword> ohhhhh,i see
[10:21] <StPatrick> how do I use compiz in Ubuntu?
[10:21] <bazhang> StPatrick: get the correct 3d drivers installed for your card and install ccsm
[10:21] <n2j3> i tried ln -s to /tmp or /dev/null icesword but i get a "file exists" message
[10:21] <dromer> hmz, somehow mplayer and vlc won't play sound anymore, both say Device or resource busy
[10:22] <icesword> n2j3, uninstall unnecessary packages
[10:22] <n2j3> :o packages? what for?
[10:22] <StPatrick> bazhang,  thanks, and where can I find new the,es for ubuntu?
[10:22] <unop> hirak99, intellectual propery and open source don't exactly go hand in hand -- and the number of linux users is not a significant enough for them to cater to the linux community (yet)
[10:22] <hirak99> StPatrick: i use compizconfig-settings-manager, "sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager" for using compiz properly
[10:22] <icesword> n2j3, er,em,uninstall unnecessary apps
[10:22] <bazhang> StPatrick: the drivers would be the restricted driver manager; ccsm you can get info if you /msg ubotu ccsm
[10:23] <J-_> how can I see if mod_rewrite is working on my server?
[10:23] <n2j3> how is that going to minimise disk writes icesword ? i'm on about specifically .bash_history
[10:23] <unop> n2j3, if you get that warning, yuo probably aren't using ln properly
[10:23] <gan> system is not shuuting down if i give init 0, it is saying system halted , why?
[10:23] <unop> s/yuo/you/
[10:23] <hirak99> StPatrick: u should turn on compiz from the Appearance in the menu, or by "sudo compiz --replace" (former way is preferred i suppose)
[10:23] <n2j3> ln -s /dev/null ~/.bash_history
[10:23] <n2j3>  ?
[10:23] <n2j3> unop,
[10:23] <unop> gan, thats the way init works
[10:23] <bazhang> compiz --replace from run command (alt f2); no sudo needed iirc
[10:24] <unop> n2j3, right, but ~/.bash_history already exists - so you need to delete it first or use the -f flag to ln
[10:24] <StPatrick> hirak99,  Thanks. It would appear that there is a problem wiht my display adaptors.
[10:24] <n2j3> hmm good point
[10:24] <gan> unop, if i give the system should go to shutdown , but the monitor is not going off
[10:24] <StPatrick> Goodnight, then
[10:24] <n2j3> so unop, ln -f /dev/null ~/.bash_history right?
[10:24] <hirak99> unop, you are right... i tossed a stupid adsl modem that won't work with linux after trying to persuade the customer service for a while to get a driver out
[10:24] <hirak99> that was long back though
[10:25] <StPatrick> Oh themes. where Do i get a themes for my Linutop?
[10:25] <gan> unop, it says system is halted
[10:25] <BanghiNation> Hello. Can somebody tell me in which file I can set the default umask?
[10:25] <n2j3> lol everybody's cueing for un_op
[10:25] <unop> gan, you will need to use poweroff or better even .. shutdown -h ..
[10:25] <sajal_> :P
[10:26] <n2j3> ln: creating hard link `/home/linutop/.bash_history' to `/dev/null': Invalid cross-device link
[10:26] <n2j3> >_<
[10:26] <n2j3> that was ln -f
[10:26] <n2j3> after deleting .bash_history
[10:26] <N3uro5i5> hi all
[10:27] <sajal_> can any1 say....
[10:27] <sajal_> can I use GyachE improved at ubuntu
[10:27] <sajal_> I'v installed it..but its not working well
[10:27] <Oprtz> hi
[10:28] <unop> n2j3, hmm, yea, didnt think about that,  it might be better to edit the $HISTFILESIZE variable, set it to 0 and that should keep you happy
[10:29] <unop> n2j3, i dont see why ln was failing there still, it should work
[10:29] <n2j3> i need .bash_history , just not on disk, that's what i was trying to do
[10:29] <Oprtz> i am fedup with ubuntu 7.10, this is 2nd time when i update the files showing in notification (188 updates available) after that my system cant log in to ubuntu, ask me user name and password then noting happend :(
[10:29] <Drum> Wanna earn money ?Or if u wanna get ircop hack u can find everything here - click here ----> http://white.hopto.org/
[10:29] <gan> unop, usually i use to give init 0 ., it works fine , now what happen i didnt know .,
[10:29] <tengulre> anybody here since using iscsi?
[10:29] <bazhang> !ops | Drum
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[10:30] <gan> unop, what is the script running if i shutdown the PC
[10:30] <bazhang> Oprtz: could you please pastebin your sources.list
[10:31] <sajal_> gan... just write down.   poweroff then enter it'll shut down ur PC
[10:31] <unop> gan, depends, its the kernel that issues a BIOS sequence to poweroff the pc tho
[10:31] <Oprtz> bazhang: how to do this, i know nothing abt linux, can u guide me please
[10:31] <unop> n2j3, if you need ~/.bash_history, why are you trying to link it to /dev/null -- thats as good as not having one :)
[10:31] <paulowsky> hello, I'm using ubuntu 7.10 on a hp 6710 notebook and the system keeps hanging, usually reporting I/O errors, but when I run fsck, nothing is wrong
[10:32] <bazhang> Oprtz: are you on the computer now? can you install software on it?
[10:32] <paulowsky> hello, I'm using ubuntu 7.10 on a hp 6710 notebook and the system keeps hanging, usually reporting I/O errors, but when I run fsck, nothing is wrong
[10:32] <gan> unop, even if i run the command poweroff, error "system halted "
[10:32] <Oprtz> i am on windows machine and ubuntu is infront of m
[10:32] <Oprtz> me*
[10:32] <n2j3> :s maybe i should have tried /tmp/ then unop ?
[10:32] <n2j3> >_<
[10:32] <n2j3> how to remove that link now
[10:32] <n2j3> lol
[10:32] <Oprtz> bazhang: i told u , ubuntu cant log me in, after giving username and password, it stuck there :(
[10:32] <bazhang> Oprtz: is this ubuntu computer on the internet now?
[10:32] <unop> n2j3, delete it with rm
[10:33] <Oprtz> bazhang: no windows
[10:33] <bazhang> Oprtz: do you have the livecd?
[10:33] <Oprtz> bazhang: but i have access to ubuntu
[10:33] <Oprtz> bazhang: yes i do
[10:33] <bazhang> Oprtz: how do you have access if you cannot log in?
[10:34] <n2j3> i did rm ~/.bash_history prior to making that link unop
[10:34] <paulowsky> Oprtz: I think bazhang is asking if the ubuntu computer you're trying to fix is connected to the internet right now
[10:34] <n2j3> and .bash_history is nowher to be seen now lol, i think i messed it up
[10:34] <dromer> anyone an idea why mplayer and vlc can't play sound but for instance mpd can?
[10:34] <dromer> this is getting anoying :/
[10:34] <Oprtz> yes its connected with LAN
[10:34] <unop> gan, why don't you use 'shutdown -h now' instead?
[10:34] <paulowsky> Oprtz: what exactly is the problem?
[10:34] <Oprtz> i am fedup with ubuntu 7.10, this is 2nd time when i update the files showing in notification (188 updates available) after that my system cant log in to ubuntu, ask me user name and password then noting happend :(
[10:34] <bazhang> dromer: is some other app using the sound card? you using wine for example?
[10:34] <unop> n2j3, you can recreate it - touch ~/.bash_history
[10:35] <n2j3> and then link it to /tmp ?
[10:35] <mjanisz> hi! i'm looking for a simple ncurses-like interface with header files for c++, you guys know of any?
[10:35] <gan> unop, ok i use & tell you
[10:35] <dromer> bazhang: not using wine, only ap using the sound card is mpd .. but this has never given me a problem
[10:35] <Oprtz> bazhang: so what to do wut live cd?
[10:35] <paulowsky> Oprtz: press Alt+ctrl+f1 tell me what happens
[10:35] <Oprtz> PaulMooney: screen tuned black
[10:35] <pdonor> HUN?
[10:36] <dromer> bazhang: hmm, if I kill mpd it does work :/
[10:36] <unop> n2j3, if you want it to be linked to somewhere in tmp.  touch /tmp/.bash_history; ln -s /tmp/.bash_history ~/.bash_history
[10:36] <paulowsky> bazhang: you have to check if the system is frozen, or its just a gnome startup issue first
[10:36] <bazhang> dromer: seems that mpd does not play nice with the other apps
[10:36] <dromer> but mpd should be able to run side by side any video-app :/
[10:36] <pdonor> lol bazhang! D állat
[10:36] <n2j3> thanks unop
[10:36] <Falcon846> hi
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[10:36] <n2j3> ...
[10:36] <FloodBot1> Dud3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:36] <Oprtz> PaulMooney: last time ubuntu corrupt my HDD and now i purchase new HDD for ubuntu but now i am facing prob again
[10:37] <bazhang> !ops | dud3
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[10:37] <Amaranth> bazhang: floodBot already handled it
[10:37] <bazhang> watch the unban though
[10:37] <Oprtz> bazhang: i am waiting for u sir.... what to do
[10:37] <gan> unop, now also i getting the same error
[10:37] <Amaranth> Won't be one, he noticed the channel
[10:37] <n2j3> unop, ln: creating symbolic link `/home/linutop/.bash_history' to `/tmp/.bash_history': File exists
[10:37] <crdlb> bazhang: that's not a flood mute
[10:37] <n2j3> >_<
[10:37] <Amaranth> Channel notice == permban from floodbot
[10:38] <jpatrick> and he was klined
[10:38] <bazhang> ah thanks Amaranth; was I wrong to call ops on that?
[10:38] <unop> n2j3, remove ~/.bash_history first :)
[10:38] <Falcon846> my live cd is stopping 3 bars in. i hav read up on the problem, but still hav no idea what to do
[10:38] <Amaranth> bazhang: You will be if you call next time it works like that :P
[10:38] <gan> unop, now also i getting the same error " system halted"
[10:38] <bazhang> my apologies Amaranth
[10:39] <Amaranth> bazhang: Eh, now you know :)
[10:39] <unop> gan, i'm not sure what's happening there
[10:39] <bazhang> okay thanks Amaranth
[10:39] <n2j3> phew, worked now unop , i'm so thick :s
[10:39] <n2j3> thanks a bunch
[10:39] <Lamego> is the any option to pass a parameter from the boot kernel line to a startup script ?
[10:39] <Oprtz> think u guys are busy
[10:40] <bazhang> sorry not to notice sooner crdlb
[10:40] <gan> unop, you tell me if i run the init 0 "which script is running tell"
[10:40] <Oprtz> will try to ask from some other channel :(
[10:40] <unop> gan, maybe.  shutdown -P -h now #?
[10:40] <Amaranth> bazhang: I just learned about that feature today too
[10:40] <Falcon846> not that i know of, its my first time using linux
[10:40] <bazhang> okay thanks
[10:41] <gan> unop, sorry the same error
[10:41] <unop> gan, it's not exactly a script - init does the work there and changes the runlevel
[10:41] <gan> unop, yeah you are correct under runlevel which script what input it is taking
[10:43] <unop> gan, init the command, is actually an executable (/sbin/init) and it acts on process 1 - it takes the parameters you give it, it does not call anything else (iirc)
[10:43] <Falcon846> does anybody know how to get the live cd to stop freezing at 3 bars?
[10:44] <bazhang> Falcon846: this is a dual boot?
[10:44] <xukun> hi all
[10:44] <Falcon846> yes
[10:45] <Falcon846> its with xp
[10:45] <unop> gan, you could ask about this in #linux or perhaps even #debian - maybe they know better (just don't tell the #debian folks you run ubuntu when asking about this)
[10:45] <bazhang> Falcon846: have you checked the md5 sum for that iso file? also what speed did you burn it at
[10:45] <xukun> is there somebody here which has an experience about ps3 and ubuntu?
[10:45] <Falcon846> i ordered the cd from shipit
[10:45] <hirak99> hi, looking for a good terminal IM client in case anybody uses one
[10:46] <bazhang> Falcon846: you able to use the terminal (command line) at all?
[10:46] <saminthemiddle> hello everyone
[10:46] <bwayne> xukun:  a friend of mine and I attempted to install it, but it was unusable.
[10:47] <Falcon846> is that when you press f6 before selecting to install and see the boot options?
[10:48] <xukun> bwayne, hmm really? that is too bad. I was thinking to get one and install ubuntu on it so I can play hd 1080p content with it
[10:48] <bazhang> Falcon846: aye; could you add acpi=off to that boot parameter?
[10:49] <Falcon846> right before the --?
[10:52] <saminthemiddle> Is anyone other than me concerned that Ubuntu 8.04 is going to ship with Firefox 3 Beta 4? I'm a bit nervous about beta code being integrated into a production platform.
[10:52] <bazhang> Falcon846: you should also remove quiet as a boot parameter so we can see the options; a simpler option (if you are not on dialup) would be to get the alternate cd and install from that--it does well when the livecd chokes
[10:52] <J-_> I'm running Dapper on my server, and I just enabled mod_rewrite but I just tried to test it with my Drupal install it doesn't work. Do I need to create a .htaccess first to see if it works?
[10:52] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for hardy discussion thanks
[10:52] <unop> J-_, you don't need a htaccess file for mod_rewrite .. and what do you mean "it doesn't work" what have you tried so far?
[10:52] <Falcon846> bazhang: dono if i typed it in the right place, but it is still getting stuck
[10:53] <bazhang> Falcon846: did you remove quiet as well? so we can see what errors it is getting?
[10:54] <Falcon846> removing now
[10:54] <bazhang> Falcon846: I have to head out; this is not a terribly difficult problem to solve--you might mention about the alternate cd to whomever helps you next
[10:55] <Falcon846> k thanks
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[11:00] <PaulMooney> hmm
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[11:00] <saminthemiddle> woah, what happened?
[11:00] <jpatrick> !netsplit | saminthemiddle
[11:00] <ubotu> saminthemiddle: please see above
[11:01] <saminthemiddle> jpatrick; thanks, I just noticed
[11:02] <PaulMooney> like the pipe usage
[11:02] <leche_> nick leche
[11:02] <ubuntu_> hi
[11:03] <Oprtz>  i am fedup with ubuntu 7.10, this is 2nd time when i update the files showing in notification (188 updates available) after that my system cant log in to ubuntu, ask me user name and password then noting happend :(
[11:03] <egoleo_> hell
[11:03] <egoleo_> hmmm
[11:03] <hirak99> also may i suggest turning off notifications on joins parts quits from your irc client
[11:03] <Oprtz> should i reinstall ubuntu ? toget rid of this problem
[11:04] <egoleo_> but when u do ctr alt f1
[11:04] <egoleo_> what do u get
[11:04] <CK_MY> ubuntu has installed ftp server by default?
[11:05] <PaulMooney> CK_MY: I don't believe so
[11:06] <beni_f> is there any way to "grep" stderr ?
[11:08] <PaulMooney> beni_f: I don't think so.  wouldn't searching the system logs work for you?
[11:08] <beni_f> PaulMooney, nope.. I need to get the details of a video via ffmpeg
[11:08] <beni_f> and ffmpeg is not grep'able in some crazy kind of way
[11:09] <geirha> beni_f: adding 2>&1 behind a command will direct stderr to stdout, so you can grep ...
[11:10] <PaulMooney> cool...  could redirect to a file also if that would be better for you...
[11:10] <beni_f> geirha, oh thank you thats what i searched for
[11:10] <beni_f> PaulMooney, thanks to you too!
[11:12] <Jezz> hi
[11:12] <Jezz> what is the easiest way to set up a VPN server with ubuntu?
[11:12] <Jezz> im quite new to linux
[11:13] <beni_f> !openvpn | Jerzz
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openvpn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <saminthemiddle> Jezz: the easiest way is to replace your router with a VPN/Router
[11:13] <Angel-SL> o_O
[11:13] <Namibian> hello #ubuntu, i was wondering if anyone is nice enough to help me install nvidia drivers on my debian lenny box. Ive been trying to get it to work after 5 days now. thanks
[11:13] <geirha> !vpn | Jezz
[11:13] <ubotu> Jezz: From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[11:13] <saminthemiddle> Jezz: the problem with most VPN protocols is that they don't like IP masquerading AT ALL
[11:14] <Jezz> i tried to install openvpn but i cant find it
[11:15] <Namibian> anyone? :(
[11:15] <saminthemiddle> Jezz: that's one of them that doesn't like being masqueraded, if you're behind a firewall it won't work
[11:15] <tarelerulz> any of you hear of coccinella ?
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[11:16] <saminthemiddle> Namibian: it's been several years since I used Debian w/ Nvidia cards, but IIRC you need to use the driver supplied from NVIDIA not the one from the repos
[11:16] <CK_MY> which ftp server has GUI ?
[11:16] <saminthemiddle> Namibian: mind you, I said it's been several years since I did it, so things have probably changed...
[11:17] <Jezz> so i installed pptpd
[11:17] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: ftp servers have GUIs?
[11:17] <Jezz> File: /etc/ppp/options < i have to delete everything in here and only type lock and #debug?
[11:17] <Jezz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[11:17] <Namibian> Saminthemiddle: thanks for replying, Ive tried numerous steps already - particularly the Debian way and all of the time it resulted in total disaster, dependency problems, incompatibility with kernel, nonbootable system,
[11:17] <Jezz> srry im very new to linux
[11:17] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, i dont know , that why i ask
[11:18] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: if you're trying to use FTP just for personal use, try using SSH, you can transfer files over SSH and it's encrypted (unlike FTP)
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[11:19] <Jezz> uh
[11:19] <Jezz> why cant i save that file?
[11:19] <Namibian> dev1: i am using irssi - i am not sure how to see pms here *blushes*
[11:19] <saminthemiddle> Namibian: then it hasn't changed a bit ;-) Try using the Nvidia binary installer again; that's all I can help. I'm using Ubuntu now and besides, I have an Intel GMA card now :-P
[11:19] <Jezz> so how can i open a text file with sudo rights :s
[11:19] <Jezz> or root dunno what its called
[11:19] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, wat is ssh ? sorry i new to linux , just started using ubuntu 3 day
[11:20] <Namibian> saminthemiddle: ok, wow its been that long and they dont want 3d graphics to work on lenny, that is just sad - anyway thanks, thought id ask here since you guys are friendlier
[11:20] <Jezz> Could not save the file /etc/ppp/options.
[11:20] <Jezz> how can i save a text file :O
[11:21] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: yay! converts! SSH is the secure shell. It's usually used to log in remotely to another computer's command line. But it can also be used to tunnel traffic adding an encryption layer to your communications as well as provide a convenient and secure (for trusted users) file sharing protocol
[11:22] <saminthemiddle> Namibian: no kidding, the people at #Debian are a right nasty lot to anyone with a skill level less than "developer"
[11:22] <PaulMooney> ssh!
[11:22] <geirha> Jezz: sudo youreditor file_to_edit.conf  # save your changes to /tmp/ if you don't have root-permissions, then copy it in place with sudo
[11:23] <Jezz> 0_0
[11:23] <Jezz> lol i think maybe its easier to set up a 2003 server for vpn connections :o
[11:23] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, any software ? putty ?
[11:23] <Namibian> saminthemiddle: i didn't even mention the channel lol
[11:23] <Jezz> isnt there a graphical way to make a vpn server on ubuntu?
[11:23] <PaulMooney> saminthemiddle: is it right to say there's a significant bandwidth decrese with ssh b/c of the encryption
[11:24] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: the problem with SSH is that when you log into the file transfer it drops the user in the root directory (/), which could be a security problem as you have to make sure that your permissions are set up right if you are not the only one using it. I would recommend that you set it up with just the SSH if you just want it for personal use. If you want to allow other people to use it too and you don't trust them enough to
[11:24] <saminthemiddle>  have full access to your computer, consider tunneling FTP though an SSH tunnel.
[11:24] <PaulMooney> even on my work lan, i find it slow to transfer w/ scp
[11:24] <geirha> Jezz: if you are more familiar with windows, then that's probably better. vpn-client is much easier to set up in ubuntu
[11:24] <unop_> PaulMooney, why would bandwidth decrease because of encryption? no
[11:24] <Jezz> oh
[11:24] <Jezz> i guess so
[11:24] <saminthemiddle> PaulMooney: I don't notice a bandwidth decrease with relatively recent hardware
[11:24] <PaulMooney> unop: because there are extra packets to be sent?
[11:25] <erUSUL> unop_: becouse you hit cpu bottleneck some ciphers are cpu intensive
[11:25] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, actually my purpose want to tranfer file between office and home only , so which is the best suggestion ?
[11:25] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY, if Putty is the Windows SSH client, then yes, you need it. Windows doesn't understand SSH natively (but Linux and OSX do)
[11:25] <unop_> PaulMooney, even with extra packets bandwidth doesn't decrease - the time taken to do something over the pipe might increase tho, is that what you mean?
[11:25] <unop_> erUSUL, that doesn't affect bandwidth tho.
[11:25] <PaulMooney> CK_MY: to answer your original quesiton, gftp
[11:25] <PaulMooney> I believe...
[11:26] <PaulMooney> CK_MY: correction, gftpd
[11:26] <CK_MY> PaulMooney, that ftpserver has GUI ?
[11:26] <PaulMooney> yes
[11:26] <CK_MY> PaulMooney, apt-get cant get
[11:27] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY, definitely go with SSH; between office and home means that you are going to be traversing public net with private data. If you don't encrypt it every sysadmin, hacker, and his dog will be able to read your files. And FTP doesn't encrypt
[11:28] <PaulMooney> ::looking::
[11:28] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, in linux wat i should use ? putty ?
[11:28] <CK_MY> PaulMooney, thanks i will try if ssh not work for me ^.^
[11:28] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: Linux understands SSH quite well, just "connect to server" under Gnome and it opens it like (almost) any other folder
[11:29] <PaulMooney> unop: if your cpu is the bottleneck... it would mean the system networking is idling waiting on the cpu...
[11:29] <Namibian> dev1: got your pm, thanks sir, i am using lenny btw
[11:29] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY; and remember, pick a strong password. SSH allows anyone to log into your computer provided they have the proper passwords
[11:30] <pbne> is there any ubuntu release running kernel version 2.4.x?
[11:30] <PaulMooney> CK_MY: ssh should be installed already (client basically).  to enable sshd, install sshd.... or openssh as it might be called in the repos....
[11:30] <pbne> *are
[11:30] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY; at the very least you can just turn on the SSH daemon and forget about it. That will work. However I recommend taking a couple extra precautions.
[11:30] <unop_> PaulMooney, and that affects bandwidth how? it still is the same whatever your CPU. memory or harddisks do - do you mean latency instead of bandwidth?
[11:31] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, so wat i need to install on windows?
[11:31] <PaulMooney> unop: the end result being slower transfer....
[11:31] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: For example, I would recommend forbidding any of your regular accounts from logging in and creating a special user for the SSH transmitions (with a unique password). Make a folder that both the normal user and the SSH guest user can access and make it a kind of "shared folder" folder. That prevents hackers from messing up your home should they break in
[11:32] <artenius> black screen on login.. any ideas?
[11:32] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: you want the server to be on Windows, or the client on Windows. If you want the client on Windows, I think putty will work.
[11:32] <PaulMooney> unop: I believe the word I need is "throughput", as I've seen used in testing new 802.11n configs
[11:32] <Jizzo|work> Irc question: How does one link the persons name in his message when your replying to them, without actually typing it over?
[11:33] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, linux for server , windows for client
[11:33] <erUSUL> !tab | Jizzo|work
[11:33] <ubotu> Jizzo|work: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:33] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: if you like extra work then the more secure way of doing it (but not by much) would be to disable SSH logins and tunnel FTP though SSH. Even more secure would be to run the SSH daemon in a chroot jail but that's just getting paranoid. If you have strong passwords you should be fine ;-)
[11:33] <PaulMooney> Jizzo|work: I'm on xchat, so it's tab for me.  it depends on what client you are using
[11:33] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: Putty will work fine then
[11:35] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: and consider turning on Ubuntu's firewall. Block all incoming packet on the 22 port (that's SSH) except from the IP and Mac address that your work computer uses. This will prevent just anyone from accessing the daemon and help increase security if your password should be leaked or broken. Also you can use the firewall to close the port off completely during non-business hours :-)
[11:35] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: if your password is leaked when you are using an SSH daemon you have a Very Big Problem (tm)
[11:36] <lorrs> Is there a package directory for Ubuntu like this one http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages for Debian?
[11:37] <CK_MY> ok i will try
[11:37] <CK_MY> thanks saminthemiddle
[11:37] <artenius> black screen on login attempt, any ideas what the problem is ?
[11:38] <lorrs> I have found http://packages.ubuntu.com/ with Google. I didn't find this URL on http://www.ubuntu.com/. Is http://packages.ubuntu.com/ dead?
[11:38] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY; you're welcome. And try not to become as paranoid as I am :-)
[11:38] <unop_> lorrs, it seems to be
[11:38] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: but stay vigilant
[11:38] <damo22> does the current version of gtkpod work with the latest ipods?
[11:39] <lorrs> unop_: :-/
[11:39] <PaulMooney> that was a lot of good advice.  I'm trying to remember it lol
[11:39] <kane77> is it possible to have two keyboards connected, but they would have different layouts?
[11:39] <z3ld> hi to all
[11:39] <artenius> unop_: I know  you know how to solve a black screen when logging in.. :)
[11:39] <b4l74z4r> does anyone know of a mp3/song announcer for rhythmbox and konversation, or would such a script be impossible given that rhythmbox is gnome and konversation is kde?
[11:40] <saminthemiddle> kane77: I don't think so. why don't you try the little keyboard switcher on the dock?
[11:40] <unop_> PaulMooney, throughput has different meanings depending on which layer of networking you refer to. at the network layer, throughput is unaffected by encryption, but network applications are
[11:40] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, i will try , but it seem quite hard to to set\
[11:40] <Falcon846> Hi, can anyone help me out with a live cd boot problem
[11:40] <CK_MY> configure
[11:40] <GNU\colossus> b4l74z4r: impossible is nothing ;)
[11:40] <b4l74z4r> :)
[11:40] <unop_> artenius, tell us more about what you see.
[11:40] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: the firewall? yeah, it's easy once you know how. It's the learning how that's the bugger
[11:40] <binarical-app> what is the kubuntu equivialnt to "kill" , where would i find the "system control"
[11:40] <PaulMooney> CK_MY: I found it on my ftp.  the program name is groftpd
[11:40] <artenius> unop_: the screen just goes black when you try to login
[11:41] <kane77> saminthemiddle, heh.. yes well I use the keyboard switcher, but I want to have regular layout and then dvorak
[11:41] <unop_> lorrs, you can still use apt-cache and dpkg to do what packages.ubuntu.com does.  'apt-cache search package' and 'dpkg -S file'
[11:41] <CK_MY> PaulMooney, groftpd  has GUI too ?
[11:41] <tarelerulz> Do you know of any chat client  that supports gtalk's voice chat protocol jingle ?
[11:41] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, because for me it quite hard for me
[11:41] <Falcon846> does anyone know why my boot is getting stuck on loading hardware drivers
[11:41] <unop_> artenius, so the login screen is fine? you see that alright?
[11:41] <saminthemiddle> kane77: I do that :-) I have a dvorak keyboard as the default and I have the switcher up there for when I need regular
[11:41] <pajamian> binarical-app: kill, and you need to direct kubuntu questions to #kubuntu
[11:41] <artenius> unop_: yes
[11:41] <PaulMooney> CK_MY: typo.  gproftpd.  yes, it has cui
[11:41] <icesword> hello
[11:41] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, im windows user 5year _
[11:42] <PaulMooney> CK_MY: gui* yeesh...
[11:42] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: I see, well, read up on it, it's not so hard once you get un-scared
[11:42] <binarical-app> im sorry, i must have come to wrong chat, thanks pajamian
[11:42] <kane77> saminthemiddle, ok, I just thought that it would be possible to have one physical keyboard dvorak and one regular...
[11:43] <unop_> artenius, do you have another user you can logon as?
[11:43] <lorrs> unop_: I am using Debian at the moment. Is there something like http://ftp.debian.org/dists/ for Ubuntu?
[11:43] <artenius> unop_: no
[11:43] <icesword> lorrs, what you want
[11:44] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY, PaulMooney, please don't use FTP on a public net like that, you're asking for very bad things to happen to you. For one thing FTP doesn't even encrypt the password so someone could say: sniff your password, replace one of your files with a trojan which when opened installs a rootkit which opens a reverse tunnel console to the hacker leading to a root-level exploit with full console control
[11:44] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, u have any good site for SSH ?
[11:44] <Falcon846> please, could someone help me
[11:44] <saminthemiddle> kane77: I have wanted a hardware key scrambler for years so I could (more easily) use a Dvorak keymap on public terminals
[11:45] <icesword> lorrs, my debian sid is broken
[11:45] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: sorry, but SSH itself is really easy to set up (you just turn it on, most of the time)
[11:45] <lorrs> icesword: I want to now which version of fvwm are available in the official releases of Ubuntu. That's all. Getting this information shouldn't be a pain in the ass.
[11:45] <lorrs> icesword: And I don't want to install Ubuntu to get this information.
[11:45] <unop_> artenius, what you'll need to do is drop to a terminal (CTRL+ALT+F1), log in and create a new user with this command.  sudo adduser newuser # then get back to the login screen (CTRL+ALT+F7), login with that user and run this command.  sudo -u user gnome-display-properties # set a good resolution, log out and log back in with the usual user
[11:46] <icesword> lorrs, ahhhhh,sorry then
[11:46] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, where to enable ? it install by default ?
[11:46] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: google for "hardened SSH" or "hardened linux" and look for the sections involving SSH. And before you take any of the advice: make sure you understand what you are doing, if the document doesn't explain what the tweaks do, don't follow that document
[11:46] <pajamian> FTP is actually a lot harder to properly configure than SFTP
[11:46] <unop_> lorrs, for which distro? gutsy?
[11:46] <lorrs> unop_: The current stable and the last stable.
[11:47] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY, oh, I understand, you want to turn it on. You need to turn it on from the "services" menu in Gnome. Or you could add it to your rc.scripts (which is what the Gnome app does anyway IIRC)
[11:47] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY, just use the GUI ;-)
[11:47] <unop_> lorrs, gvwm Candidate: 1:2.5.21-1
[11:47] <lorrs> unop_: 7.10 and 7.04.
[11:47] <Lifeisfunny> Falcon846, many don't know if they can help til you spill the beans on the issue you need addressed
[11:47] <unop_> fvwm*
[11:48] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, GUI better because i new to linux , GUI fist , after command
[11:48] <CK_MY> ^.^
[11:48] <icesword> !info fvwm
[11:48] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: IIRC the command to activate SSH at boot is "rc-update add sshd default"
[11:48] <ubotu> fvwm (source: fvwm): F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.5. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.5.21-1 (gutsy), package size 3068 kB, installed size 6664 kB
[11:48] <reel__> !info mediatomb
[11:48] <ubotu> Package mediatomb does not exist in gutsy
[11:48] <GNU\colossus> saminthemiddle: on gentoo, yes
[11:49] <saminthemiddle> GNU\colossus: aaah, what is it in Ubuntu. I guess my distro hopping shows ;-)
[11:49] <lorrs> !help
[11:49]  * Antti !weather, !kernel, !sysinfo, !sms
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[11:49] <unop_> !info fvwm fiesty
[11:49] <ubotu> fvwm (source: fvwm): F(?) Virtual Window Manager, version 2.5. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.5.21-1 (gutsy), package size 3068 kB, installed size 6664 kB
[11:49] <unop_> !info fvwm gutsy
[11:49] <lorrs> !info fvwm 7.10
[11:49] <GNU\colossus> saminthemiddle: i don't know if update-rc.d can handle ADDING init scripts to runlevels. if not, you need to manually symlink.
[11:49] <icesword> stop it
[11:49] <unop_> lorrs, ^^ what icesword showed you was for the latest stable .. what i did was for last stable
[11:50] <Falcon846> i just got a copy of gutsy gibbon from shipit. when i boot and press start it goes fine until it gets stuck at 3 bars. i turned off quiet and it says its loading hardware drivers
[11:50] <saminthemiddle> unop_, lorrs, you can "/msg ubotu !info your question"
[11:50] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, in GNOME menu " SERVICE" i din see any related about SSH ? how to enable?
[11:50] <lorrs> saminthemiddle: Oops. Didn't know that.
[11:50] <Klassniy> http://white.hopto.org/ http://white.hopto.org/ http://white.hopto.org/
[11:50] <Klassniy> http://white.hopto.org/ http://white.hopto.org/ http://white.hopto.org/
[11:50] <FloodBot2> Klassniy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:50] <lorrs> unop_: Thank you. :-)
[11:50] <unop_> saminthemiddle, i know, but i was showing lorrs something
[11:50] <Lifeisfunny> iceword,  clicking on fvwm in synaptic gives someone a list of ....  gdk-imlib11  ... imlib-base ... librplay3 ... libstroke0
[11:51] <saminthemiddle> GNU\colossus: I see, that works just as well. If less elegant...
[11:51] <saminthemiddle> unop_ okay, in that case it's fine.
[11:52] <PaulMooney> saminthemiddle: GNU\colossus, CK_MY: I didn't have to do all that to enable it....  I just sudo apt-get install ssh
[11:52] <PaulMooney> it did everything else automatically
[11:53] <saminthemiddle> PaulMooney, CK_MY, GNU\colossus, in that case, just install it and test to make sure it works ;-)
[11:53] <CK_MY> i installed openssh
[11:53] <root0> does anyone know anything about systemimager?
[11:53] <PaulMooney> right
[11:53] <GNU\colossus> PaulMooney: debian has a habit of automatically (re)starting daemons upon install
[11:53] <CK_MY> what i can do now ?
[11:53] <pajamian> ssh-server is enabled by default in ubuntu
[11:53] <alanbshepard70> Is there any way to automatically mark all packages installed that aren't installed by default for removal? Also for another system I want to make it bare bones so is there a list some where of all the default installed packages that can be safely removed and also the ones that are critical?
[11:53] <GNU\colossus> and also adding it to the default runlevel
[11:54] <PaulMooney> pajamian: I've always had to install the daemon
[11:54] <PaulMooney> ssh the client is there by default...
[11:54] <pajamian> PaulMooney: right
[11:54] <CK_MY> but i installed openssh , how to configure?
[11:54] <GNU\colossus> CK_MY: man sshd_config
[11:54] <pajamian> PaulMooney: I meant that it's active once you install it by default
[11:54] <Jowi> CK_MY: install openssh-server package. config file is in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:55] <PaulMooney> CK_MY: right.  it is on already tho.  it is useable now... just not hardened more than the default settings
[11:55] <unop> CK_MY, also.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow openssh-server
[11:55] <pajamian> just: sudo apt-get install ssh
[11:55] <pajamian> you'll get everything you need
[11:56] <babo> how do i import an image into a folder created by apache that doesn't have write access ?
[11:56] <alanbshepard70> Is there a way to force a program to always open at a low priority level so it won't hog cpu time if I want it to just be quietly running in the background.
[11:56] <PaulMooney> CK_MY: you're transfering from work to home?  so you installed openssh on the work pc?  from the windows home pc you can use putty to login (via the default settings)
[11:57] <unop> babo, whatever way you intend to use, that folder needs write access
[11:57] <CK_MY> home windows , office linux
[11:57] <pajamian> alanbshepard70: just prefix the command name with nice in the launcher
[11:57] <babo> unop: right. the folder doesn't have write access for anyone but apache ...
[11:57] <artenius> unop: when I type sudo -u user gnome-display-properties should "user" be the new user I added or the word user?
[11:57] <unop> alanbshepard70,   nice -n 20 command
[11:58] <PaulMooney> CK_MY: you want to make transfers.  psftp? (part of the putty suite) can do transfers... just that I find I have to run that program from DOS.  I use winSCP(sp?) for ssh transfers to a windows client...
[11:58] <alanbshepard70> Thanks pajamian and unop
[11:58] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: PaulMooney: wait, your WORK PC is the one with Linux! Cool! Also, make sure that running an SSH daemon is okay with your boss, and SSH daemon is considered a major serurity breach in corporate nets. Also, the corporate net might block the service too...
[11:58] <unop> artenius, 'user' there is your usual user, your actual username
[11:58] <PaulMooney> CK_MY: is port 22 open to this work computer?  (it's usually the case that it isn't)
[11:58] <artenius> unop: ok so not the second one I created
[11:59] <saminthemiddle> PaulMooney CK_MY, more importantly, is ANY port open. you can always change the default port
[11:59] <PaulMooney> CK_MY: true
[11:59] <unop> babo, you can use sudo to log on as the apache user, it's www-data by default so.  sudo -u www-data # and then go about copying the file, etc
[11:59] <pajamian> CK_MY: you will probably have to forward a port from the router.
[11:59] <saminthemiddle> PaulMooney CK_MY, technically CK could use a reverse tunnel and run SSH though that if no ports are open. but that's normally a big "you're fired" action
[11:59] <unop> artenius, no, not the one you created, because you aren't modifying display properties for that user, but for the user that is having difficulties
[12:00] <babo> unop: i'm not root and i don't have shell access
[12:00] <artenius> unop: I got ya, ok
[12:00] <PaulMooney> lol.... there's always a way...
[12:00] <EuRoPeAn> nu este nimeni ce stie savorbeasca romineste noai niguna tia ke abla espaniola
[12:01] <unop> babo, i don't see any other way around this then, you need some kind of write access to that folder
[12:01] <gobfrey> can anyone help me find out why my terminal won't launch?
[12:01] <DJones> !es | EuRoPeAn
[12:01] <ubotu> EuRoPeAn: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[12:01] <saminthemiddle> PaulMooney: as they say "when there's a will..." and then you get canned ;-)
[12:01] <CK_MY> i will try
[12:01] <CK_MY> now blur blur ^.^
[12:02] <gobfrey> I click to open it as normal, but since I added a second screen to my PC, it doesn't open.
[12:02] <PaulMooney> you guys have everything covered here.  I'm going back to reading
[12:02] <unop> babo, if you don't have shell access, what kind of user are you on the system? how do you access the system?
[12:02] <pajamian> CK_MY: you will probably have to talk to the IT dept at work and ask them to forward a port to port 22 on your workstation.
[12:02] <sivel27> hello all
[12:02] <CK_MY> pajamian,  forward on router?
[12:02] <sivel27> any one figure out how to make usb headphones work with a laptop?
[12:03] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY, personally, I'm amazed that you have root access to your work machine!
[12:03] <pajamian> CK_MY: well, it depends, of course, if your wrok computer is behind a NAT network, then yes.  Otherwise they just need to poke a hole in the firewall for you.
[12:04] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, sure i have root access on my machine
[12:04] <saminthemiddle> pajamian: by "poke a hole" are you perchance referring to a reverse-tunnel? :_P
[12:04] <pajamian> saminthemiddle: nope
[12:04] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY
[12:04] <pajamian> saminthemiddle: I just mean if he has a public IP address assigned directly to his workstation they will probably have it behind a firewall and will need to open up the port.
[12:05] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: that's just odd, usually root is reserved for admins
[12:05] <pajamian> saminthemiddle: otherwise it's likely behind a NAT router and they will have to forward the port from the router.
[12:05] <saminthemiddle> pajamian: or he could "poke a hole" as you put it ;-)
[12:05] <piniek> connect 212.126.1.2
[12:05] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, my friend can use putty login to this pc , then how to transfer  file ?
[12:05] <babo> unop: ftp
[12:05] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle, here not only 1 pc using linux
[12:05] <pajamian> saminthemiddle: they may give him root on his workstation, but I doubt they give him access to the company router/firewall
[12:05] <saminthemiddle> CK_MY: sorry, out of my league. I'm purely a Linux/Mac person
[12:06] <sivel27> !sound
[12:06] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:06] <simplechat> hey
[12:06] <simplechat> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my epc
[12:06] <CK_MY> saminthemiddle,  ok ... any way thanks
[12:06] <simplechat> i ran through the usb installer guide on the wiki
[12:06] <saminthemiddle> pajamian, technically, giving workers root access to workstations is still a bad idea. You end up with holes in your net. And remember that workstations, too, carry sensitive data.
[12:06] <CK_MY> i need to go back cya
[12:07] <pajamian> saminthemiddle: are you saying you can login to your work PC with putty?  in that case you have a decent ssh connection and you just need a program that supports SFTP (one I know of is FileZilla)
[12:07] <simplechat> but when i booted ubuntu, all it says is "/casper/vmlinuz"
[12:07] <simplechat> whenever i select an option
[12:07] <unop> babo, your only option is to get the FTP servers administrator to give you the right permissions otherwise what you are attempting to do is compromise the ftp server.
[12:07] <simplechat> what on earth would do that?
[12:07] <saminthemiddle> pajamian: you meant to send that to CK_MY
[12:07] <pajamian> saminthemiddle: I don't disagree, but if they do they do.
[12:07] <pajamian> saminthemiddle: yes, I did...
[12:07] <pajamian> saminthemiddle: bah, nm, he left
[12:08] <simplechat> casper/vmlinuz is an empty file now
[12:08] <saminthemiddle> pajamian: yup. I knew a guy who used to admin a computer that listened to the phone lines of a DOD building to listen for modems. You can bet that those workers didn't have root access ;-)
[12:09] <pajamian> saminthemiddle: yeah, but most businesses aren't as security consious as the DOD
[12:09] <unop> logging on a machine as root even with ssh is not generally a good security practice.
[12:10] <pajamian> unop: I don't think we were actually recommending that.
[12:10] <unop> pajamian, i didn't say you were :)
[12:10] <pajamian> unop: and I agree, I only log onto remote boxes as a user account, I can always get root with sudo (or sometimes su)
[12:14] <meowludo> Hey guys - I have just installed ubuntu and I can't play an mp3. Suggestions?
[12:15] <Pricey> meowludo, double clicking it should bring up an easy codec instillation.
[12:15] <meowludo> i'll give it a go. I am so glad to have finally ended my uphill battle with microsoft.
[12:16] <artenius> unop: when I login as the other user it drops me into a yellow screen
[12:16] <topher> i'm sure most of us are ;)
[12:16] <pajamian> hehehe
[12:17] <icesword> meowludo, naaan,nice,one ,sir
[12:17] <meowludo> Hey pricey - it opened totem and then advised me that i do not have the decoder.
[12:17] <Pricey> meowludo, and it should let you click through it, to install codecs?
[12:17] <pajamian> meowludo: try it in rhythembox
[12:18] <Pricey> pajamian, will that launch the easy codec installer?
[12:18] <meowludo> rythm box w1ns....
[12:18] <Scarey> how do you find the program when you choose "other" from firefox ?
[12:18] <Scarey> like Rhytmbox
[12:18] <pajamian> Pricey: I'm pretty sure rhythembox plays it by default, and it's way better for playing mp3s than totem (though I know there are even better programs)
[12:18] <x0x> how to hide other users file from users ???
[12:19] <nalpha> guys... if I want to know mysql error code (system error: 111) where I find it?
[12:19] <pajamian> meowludo: I find an easy way to get nearly all the goodies I want is to install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[12:19] <meowludo> yeah - i am complete n00b. but am loving the whole thing :)
[12:19] <Pricey> pajamian, mp3 codecs aren't installed by default
[12:19] <x0x> nalpha google
[12:20] <x0x> !google
[12:20] <ubotu> google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[12:20] <pajamian> Pricey: ok, I wasn't sure, I knew that the encoder wasn't installed, but I wasn't sure about the decoder.
[12:20] <Scarey> nalioth, have you googled it? something like "mysql error 111" ?
[12:20] <pajamian> Pricey: mainly because I install a bunch of extra stuff when I set up a new box anyways.
[12:20] <nalpha> x0x: i now!!! but didnt find it... ex: maybe there is a resources in mysql website but still didint find error code 111 means.. it's just show error code from 1000 to 2000 ??? :(((
[12:21] <pajamian> nalpha: try asking in #mysql
[12:21] <Scarey> nalpha, did you try googling the error string ?
[12:21] <nalpha> pajamian: hm.. good idea i will try... :)
[12:22] <Moligaloo> Who used shttpd?
[12:22] <meowludo> Thanks for that guys!
[12:22] <Scarey> where is applications placed if I want to start a file by a specific app?
[12:23] <x0x> unop: how to hide other users file from users ???
[12:23] <mindguru08> Hey everyone
[12:24] <unop> x0x, put it in a folder that isn't readable by other users, make it unreadable by others and rename it so it has a . infront
[12:24] <pajamian> Scarey: usually /usr/bin but can be anywhere in your path.
[12:24] <zeno_> Im trying to install java, ive tried sudo apt-get install -f, and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin, but niether work. heres apt output: http://pastebin.com/m497af469
[12:24] <unop> x0x, hiding files is a windows/msdos thing, there really isn't an equivalent on unix
[12:24] <x0x> unop its will hide everything?
[12:25] <x0x> oh ok
[12:25] <Scarey> pajamian, tnx
[12:25] <Juzzy`> Hi guys, I'm trying to setup my ftp server, I want users locked out of the entire filesystem but still to be able to access a folder /share .. I have tried chroot jail + symlinks + mount --bind but nothing has worked, any ideas?
[12:25] <figuringout> hi, i wanted to make a bunch of simple webpages without the hassle of coding it by hand. need suggestions for a nice simple web page maker.
[12:25] <unop> x0x, well, quite simply, if you make it unreadable by others, that's good enough, so what if they know the file name, they can't read it anyway
[12:26] <Juzzy`> so naughty.movie.avi will be visible but not watchable
[12:26] <artenius> unop: when I login as the other user it drops me into a yellow screen
[12:26] <Jizzo|work> figuringout: Are you hosting the website on Ubuntu? Or do you have a hosting company?
[12:27] <figuringout> hosting company
[12:27] <figuringout> its persoanl webpages mostly.
[12:27] <unop> artenius, yellow screen? do explain a little more
[12:27] <artenius> unop: the yellow ubunto screen with a mouse cursor, nothing else
[12:27] <Jizzo|work> figuringout: Most hosting company's use something that is called a 1-click install, that allows you to (with 1 click) setup a blog/forum/website sort of stuff based on templates
[12:27] <Juzzy`> Hi guys, I'm trying to setup my ftp server, I want users locked out of the entire filesystem but still to be able to access a folder /share .. I have tried chroot jail + symlinks + mount --bind but nothing has worked, any ideas?
[12:28] <unop> Juzzy`, when you say "nothing has worked" what do you mean really?
[12:28] <figuringout> Jizzo|work: i'm designing on ubuntu though. i know about all that. i just need a nice frontpage clone for ubuntu. i want to make the pages offline
[12:28] <figuringout> dont need a CMS or anything
[12:28] <pajamian> !repeat | Juzzy`
[12:28] <ubotu> Juzzy`: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:28] <unop> artenius, does ALT+F2 do anything there?
[12:28] <oddar> Hello
[12:28] <xx0xx> sorry got dc
[12:28] <Juzzy`> pajamian thanks
[12:28] <Juzzy`> mucho help
[12:28] <Jizzo|work> figuringout: Ah ok. I understand. I havent found one myself that sooths my needs, I code everything myself ;)
[12:28] <gW_jULLie_> kk
[12:29] <xx0xx> unop: i want to make folder unreadabe from users
[12:29] <figuringout> Jizzo|work : i can. but I don't want to. thanks anyway? i was just reading about nvu. any good?
[12:29] <Juzzy`> unop what I mean is if I chroot the ftp dir I can't access the share, even if its mount --bind or symlink'd in
[12:29] <Juzzy`> unop but I don't want to un-chroot the ftp root because it'll expose other files
[12:29] <xx0xx> like they cant enter the user folder
[12:30] <unop> Juzzy`, symlinks wont work there, but bound volumes should, perhaps you have a permissions problem there, have you ruled that out
[12:30] <DJones> figuringout: Did you say you were looking for a frontpage clone? I've missed the start of your question so I could be completely on the wrong track
[12:30] <Juzzy`> unop no, don't exactly know how to.. but will have a look around and report back
[12:30] <Jizzo|work> figuringout: Cant help you there, not really into all the software. Sorry
[12:30] <Pici> !nvu | figuringout
[12:30] <figuringout> Jizzo|work. wokay. thanks anyway
[12:30] <ubotu> figuringout: kompozer is WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project. It is available in !Universe on !Gutsy, !Backports on !Feisty, and from  « deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu edgy universe » for Edgy.  (Dapper still pending)
[12:30] <unop> xx0xx, all you need to do is set permission 700 on the folder, only the owner has access then, no one else
[12:30] <Kne1> xiediaolai
[12:31] <icesword> nishuosha
[12:31] <figuringout> ubotu : i'm on dapper unfortunately. nvu is bad?
[12:31] <xx0xx> unop: even root?
[12:31] <Jizzo|work> DRJones: Yes, he is looking for a Frontpage like program.
[12:32] <DJones> figuringout: as Pici mentioned, kompozer is fairly decent, its a wysiwyg html editor
[12:32] <oddar> Hello, I'm having audio troubles. lspci shows that terminal finds my Intel HD audio, suggestions?
[12:32] <Pici> DJones: And the replacement for nvu ;)
[12:32] <unop> Juzzy`,
[12:32] <unop> oops, nvm me
[12:32] <figuringout> DJones i'm on dapper though. i'm going to try out nvu though.
[12:33] <figuringout> <ignore second though ;) >
[12:33] <Dr_willis> !intelhd
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intelhd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <unop_> xx0xx, no - root is special and for good reason, if you accidentally locked everyone out of a folder - only root can perform a recovery
[12:34] <Juzzy`> unop I have chown ftpuser /share and chroot jailed the ftp user but even after mount --bind /share /home/ftpuser it still won't allow me into the directories
[12:34] <DJones> Pici: yep, I knew that, that was going to be my next comment
[12:34] <Juzzy`> hmm actually I has an idea
[12:34] <JaccoH> is it possible to use apt to update to an other arch.?
[12:35] <JaccoH> eg from 32bit to 64bit
[12:35] <hischild> JaccoH, from my experience, no
[12:35] <xx0xx> unop_: :D thanks buddy
[12:35] <unop_> Juzzy`, enter the chroot and logon as the ftpuser with 'sudo -u ftpuser' and try and navigate to that directory
[12:35] <xx0xx> you are great
[12:35] <xx0xx> !yey
[12:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yey - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <DJones> is packages.ubuntu.com down, I'm getting timed out trying to connect via the web
[12:35] <JaccoH> o ok :) that means ill have to actually drive up to that colocation :)
[12:35] <xx0xx> !yay
[12:35] <ubotu> Glad you made it! :-)
[12:36] <unop_> Juzzy`, also out of curiosity, what are the permissions of that folder?
[12:36] <artenius> unop: any idea why sudo -u user gnome-display-properties wouldn't pop anything up?
[12:37] <JaccoH> ok one more thing... is it easy to ease the hardy kernel in gutsy? ive some kernel BUG errors with Xen
[12:37] <unop_> artenius, hmm, not sure, any errors spit out?
[12:37] <artenius> unop: no
[12:37] <artenius> nothing
[12:37] <diff> hi all!
[12:38] <userbn> woi
[12:38] <diff> how to download ubuntu without X11?
[12:38] <hischild> diff, download the server or install command line only.
[12:39] <xx0xx> how to create vhost?
[12:39] <pajamian> !server | diff
[12:39] <ubotu> diff: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[12:39] <xx0xx> for ip
[12:39] <artenius> unop: I'm able to get into Failsafe gnome, just trying to fix it over all
[12:39] <diff> no, i love ubuntu desktop! :) but I sometimes need to boot without X
[12:39] <unop_> artenius, hmm, not sure then .. what i would do is backup the gnome folders in the home dir and try logging in again -  this is for the actual user, not the temporary one you just created.  ~/.gnome* ~/.gtk*
[12:39] <diff> ubotu
[12:40] <unop_> artenius, maybe also ~/.gconf*
[12:40] <pajamian> diff: oh, I thought you wanted a version of ubuntu without X, sorry.
[12:40] <Dr_willis> diff,  just disable the gdm/kdm service
[12:40] <diff> !
[12:40] <Dr_willis> diff,  then use startx when you want X
[12:40] <diff> how to disable gdm?
[12:41] <icesword> system>
[12:41] <hischild> is the message about "Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = <insert random number>ns) a known message? if so, can it be ignored?
[12:41] <JaccoH> any xen users here?
[12:42]  * Dr_willis guesses diff figured out how to stop the gdm service.. :)
[12:42] <galataranator> Could anyone tell me if there is a known workaround for installation on a Panasonic Toughbook CF-30 ( Core2Duo ) ?
[12:42] <Dr_willis> galataranator,  there was a ubuntu forum just for laptops i belive.
[12:42] <galataranator> Even using noapic and nolapic it hangs when it gets to the IO scheduler
[12:43] <pajamian> galataranator: did you try the alternate install cd?
[12:43] <galataranator> Dr_willis: i will google for that thanks
[12:43] <galataranator> pajamian: i did not ... where can i find this?
[12:43] <pajamian> !alternate | galataranator
[12:43] <ubotu> galataranator: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[12:44] <kallepersson> Hi there. My gnome-keyring acts weird. I can enter a password for instance a ftp server via Nautilus, but when I try to access the same server via gedit or any other application with file browsing view, I have to type in the password. It has worked before.
[12:44] <galataranator> pajamian: thanks alot ... i will try that
[12:44] <kallepersson> When it worked I usually got "Do you want to activate the keyring for this program? [yes] [no]"
[12:45] <b0x> am i able to open programs with out having the terminal open all the time?
[12:45] <hischild> is the message in the kernel ring buffer about "Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = <insert random number>ns) a known message? if so, can it be ignored?
[12:45] <kallepersson> b0x: yes
[12:45] <kallepersson> type
[12:46] <kallepersson> firefox &
[12:46] <beeriba> find xForce
[12:46] <kallepersson> then you can close the terminal
[12:46] <kallepersson> for instance
[12:46] <FloodBot2> kallepersson: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:46] <DJones> b0x: press Alt and F2, that'll let you enter the program name to run without starting a terminal
[12:46] <kallepersson> that works as well. using the menu is a good way too.
[12:46] <hischild> kallepersson, for me that also closes firefox if i close the terminal.
[12:46] <b0x> thank u djennewe
[12:46] <b0x> DJones
[12:46] <Limano> hello.. i have some problems running a java applet because i dont have the newest JRE version.. i downloaded it, installed it on usr/lib, cleared java and web browser cache but nothing happens.. what should i do?
[12:47] <hischild> !java
[12:47] <ubotu> To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[12:47] <kallepersson> hischild: with an & after the application?
[12:47] <hischild> Limano, ^
[12:47] <hischild> kallepersson, yes.
[12:47] <Limano> ok
[12:47] <Limano> thanks
[12:47] <hischild> kallepersson, i use screen to get that result you described.
[12:48] <kallepersson> ok
[12:49] <xjkx> when is the next ubuntu out ?
[12:49] <Smegzor> I have heard that in linux (ext3) it is possible to resize a partition with no data loss.  Is this true?  I want to double my swap from 4 gigs to 8 gigs by taking 4 gigs away from my home partition.  I have more than 4 gigs free in home.
[12:49] <xjkx> a friend asked me to give him a cd, i will wait the latest, if its coming
[12:49] <Limano> but i still doesnt know what to do :|
[12:49] <Pici> xjkx: April 24th
[12:50] <GNU\colossus> Smegzor: growing the fs is possible with ext3, I'm not sure about shrinking though
[12:50] <hischild> !hardy
[12:50] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:50] <xjkx> thank you
[12:50] <hischild> GNU\colossus, Smegzor, in theory it's possible to shrink ext3. From what i have heard some are successful in it, some failed. I would backup your /home and unmount it before you attempt it.
[12:51] <Smegzor> hmm..  I won't bother.  I only want to double my swap so that it is double my ram, but I don't have to do that.
[12:51] <hischild> Smegzor, how much ram do you use?
[12:51] <Smegzor> 4gigs
[12:52] <hischild> you really use 4gb?
[12:52] <Smegzor> yep
[12:52] <GNU\colossus> Smegzor: your machine is actually swapping?
[12:52] <hischild> wow
[12:52] <pyross> hello, im having problems with ubuntu 6.10 on dell xps m1210 i cannot adjust screen resolution more than 1024x768 i have installed the nvidia 7400 Go drivers and added     Driver         "nvidia" in xorg.conf i reboot the nvidia logo does show up, but i cant seem to get the resolutions i want modes are set :         Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" yet it doesnt work. any ideas ?
[12:52] <Smegzor> not much if at all
[12:52] <GNU\colossus> Smegzor: then don't bother resizing
[12:52] <kallepersson>  Hi there. My gnome-keyring acts weird. I can enter a password for instance a ftp server via Nautilus, but when I try to access the same server via gedit or any other application with file browsing view, I have to type in the password. It has worked before. When it worked I usually got "Do you want to activate the keyring for this program? [yes] [no]"
[12:52] <GNU\colossus> not worth the trouble or risk
[12:52] <Limano> hischild: can you tell me specificly what i should look for on that java page?
[12:52] <Smegzor> I run VirtualBox so XP gets 2 gigs and linux gets the rest
[12:53] <GNU\colossus> that's perfectly fine for just about anything you want to do
[12:53] <hischild> Limano, if you need java to run it then look at that page. Should contain all the info you need. I don't use java myself so i can't really help there.
[12:53] <GNU\colossus> if your system starts swapping, performance is shot anyways
[12:53] <s_> how to install dual boot i have instaled xp
[12:53] <Pici> !dualboot > s_ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[12:55] <pyross> anyone here own a dell xps that can solve my problem i mentioned above ?
[12:56] <zeno_> Im trying to install java, ive tried sudo apt-get install -f, and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin, but niether work. heres apt output: http://pastebin.com/m497af469
[12:57] <zeno_> when i try to install the bin it says no canidate version
[12:57] <Nith> zeno_: you've got broken packages
[12:58] <Nith> zeno_: open synaptic, then go edit --> Fix broken packages
[12:58] <zeno_> sure thanks brb
[12:58] <Pici> zeno_: Make sure that you have the multiverse repo enabled.
[12:58] <s_> sorry ive have a message which says guided resize ide1 master partition #5 (hda5) and used free space
[12:58] <s_> will this ovewrite xp
[12:59] <s_> xp is another partition
[12:59] <pisca> hi
[12:59] <pisca> hi all
[12:59] <Pici> !hi
[12:59] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[13:00] <s_> any help
[13:00] <Pici> s_: the resize option should resize your xp parition and put ubuntu next to it.  It will prompt you before making any changes.
[13:00] <b0xxy> "Checking for C compiler default output file name...configure: error C compiler cannot create executables" when i try ./configure an eggdrop? wat does this mean?
[13:00] <zeno_> fix broken packages doesnt appear to do anything
[13:00] <hischild> b0xxy, install build-essential
[13:00] <zeno_> i have multiverse on
[13:01] <b0xxy> wat is the cmd?
[13:01] <pisca> terminal
[13:01] <hischild> b0xxy, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[13:01] <s_> the thing is that the partition of xp is only 15gb and here says new partition size 71 gb
[13:01] <zeno_> whats th terminal command for fixing the dependencies
[13:01] <s_> and that is d partition
[13:01] <b0xxy> installing
[13:01] <b0xxy> ta
[13:02] <b0xxy> will it work from now on then?
[13:02] <zeno_>  sun-java5-jre: Depends: sun-java5-bin (= 1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable or
[13:02] <zeno_> why woudnt it be installable
[13:03] <unop_> zeno_,  aptitude why-not sun-java5-bin
[13:03] <zeno_> unop_, tried, it says no canidate version
[13:03] <b0xxy> apt-get install only seems to work for me
[13:03] <b0xxy> wats this aptitude
[13:03] <s_> any help with this
[13:03] <Nith> aptitude is similar to apt. They say it has better package resolution
[13:03] <unop_> zeno_, doesn't look like you have the latest package lists and/or don't have the multiverse repository enabled
[13:04] <Jahromeo> Heres my issue i reinstall windows and borked my grub - I need to fix it but i cant find my ubuntu installdisc is their a rescue disc i can dl - something small that would enable me to edit the grub?
[13:04] <zeno_> unop_, synaptic says its enabled
[13:04] <onats> hello, if i install the beta version of 8.04, will i need to do a full reinstall once the final one comes out?
[13:04] <onats> or i can just upgrade some stuff?
[13:04] <DJones> !beta | onats
[13:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beta - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:04] <unop_> zeno_, try this. sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude install sun-java5-jre"
[13:04] <Jahromeo> onats upgrade some stuff
[13:04] <Jahromeo> would be my guess
[13:04] <onats> sure?
[13:04] <Pici> !final | onats
[13:04] <ubotu> onats: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Hardy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[13:04] <Pici> onats: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[13:04] <onats> ok great
[13:05] <DJones> Thats the one i was looking for, I thought it was beta
[13:05] <zeno_> same error
[13:05] <zeno_> :(
[13:05] <onats> time to download
[13:05] <onats> :D
[13:05] <s_> please tell me will this part overwrite xp or not
[13:05] <beeriba> PIPR
[13:05] <unop_> zeno_, let's have a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list -- use the !pastebin for that
[13:05] <zeno_> sure thx
[13:05] <onats> anyone got their suspend/hibernate working properly now?
[13:05] <Pici> !beta is <alias> final
[13:05] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Pici
[13:06] <Kanniball> hi!
[13:06] <Kanniball> is it possible to umount /boot without reboot from a live-cd?
[13:06] <susan> hai hoe are you
[13:06] <Jahromeo> Heres my issue i reinstall windows and borked my grub - I need to fix it but i cant find my ubuntu installdisc is their a rescue disc i can dl - something small that would enable me to edit the grub?
[13:06] <unop_> Kanniball, sure, just make sure it's not in use
[13:07] <hischild_> susan, type /join #ubuntu-nl for dutch support.
[13:07] <Pici> s_: What are you looking to do? Resize the xp partition? or install on an empty parition?
[13:07] <s_> to install ubuntu on the same partition where xp is
[13:08] <unop_> eh?
[13:08] <Kanniball> unop_: the /boot is the system boot, but I have always a message saying device is busy
[13:08] <s_> odd Pici what to do
[13:08] <pisca> i can find xlibs
[13:08] <Pici> s_: How big is the parition that xp is on? and is xp using all of that space currently?
[13:08] <Pici> !xlibs | pisca
[13:08] <ubotu> pisca: When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following package: xorg-dev
[13:08] <pisca> i can't find xlibs
[13:08] <unop_> s_, you can't install ubuntu on the same partition as XP without ruining XP
[13:08] <s_> ITS 15GB
[13:09] <unop_> Kanniball, lsof | grep -i /boot
[13:09] <Pici> unop_: You'd have to resize the parition obviously, and install ubuntu in the resulting free space.
[13:09] <pisca> !xlibs
[13:09] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following package: xorg-dev
[13:09] <unop_> Kanniball, ^ should list processes that have /boot open
[13:09] <s_> so what should i do
[13:09] <Kanniball> unop_: it returns nothing, I now lsof... I've tried it before
[13:09] <unop_> Pici, i know that thanks :)
[13:10] <zeno_> unop_, http://pastebin.com/m32cae68a
[13:10] <FreakGuard> my dnsmasq doesn't want to answer dhcp-request... but the dhcp-request pakets are inc (tcpdump)
[13:10] <Pici> unop_: I know ;), just reiterating for s_
[13:11] <unop_> Kanniball, are you chrooted into the system at the moment?
[13:11] <s_> any expert here 4 ubuntu
[13:12] <Pici> s_: I'd do a manual paritioning and resize the xp parition and then use the resulting free space to add an ext3 parition for Ubuntu.  You're cutting it a bit small for both OSes though.
[13:12] <Kanniball> unop_: nop, just a regular ssh session (I need to  resize the partition)
[13:12] <Dr_willis> s_,  one normally resizes the windows partition, creating a new partition, and install linix to the new partition
[13:12] <Pici> s_: Also, you probably want to defrag your windows partition before resizing it.
[13:12] <Dr_willis> s_,  you have only a 15gb hard drive?
[13:12] <s_> i have more
[13:13] <zeno_> unop_, does it look okay?
[13:13] <s_> but i dont want to touch d partition cuz i have there some information
[13:13] <unop_> zeno_, what does this return?  apt-cache policy sun-java5-bin
[13:13] <unop_> zeno_, i can't find anything that might be the cause of the problem
[13:13] <Totem> !x11
[13:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[13:14] <s_> can someone guide me via private message
[13:14] <zeno_> (none) (none) and version table is blank
[13:14] <zeno_> time to go with the generalized linux binary?
[13:15] <zeno_> oh nm thats jsut for x86 i think
[13:15] <unop_> zeno_, hmm, run this command and inlcude it's output in a !paste.  sudo aptitude update
[13:15] <zeno_> im on power pc
[13:15] <unop_> ahh
[13:15] <unop_> that explains quite a bit
[13:16] <unop_> zeno_, you should be able to get the powerpc port from sun's website
[13:16] <dromer> hmmm, I have this weird problem: my soundcard can't play from more than 1 sound-source (apperantly), mplayer and vlc couldn't play sound when mpd was running for instance, any way to resolve this?
[13:16] <kane77> in what program can I "chop" video to smaller parts?
[13:16] <Lamego> kane77, lives
[13:17] <kinetic_> kane77 avidemux is a good one as well
[13:17] <Oprtz> hi when trying to install softwre to play video file it shows this kind of msg ( E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[13:17] <Oprtz> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[13:17] <Oprtz>  ) ?
[13:17] <onats> anyone got their suspend/hibernate working properly now?
[13:17] <zeno_> unop_, http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php
[13:17] <Lamego> Oprtz, open a terminal and run: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:17] <Oprtz> ok wait sir
[13:18] <Lamego> onats, that is a very hard question, suspend/hibernate is highly dependent on your hw
[13:18] <Oprtz> Lamego: it says OK
[13:18] <onats> lamego, i think i was having problems with my wireless card
[13:18] <Oprtz> thats all?
[13:18] <s_> i can c now the partition but it says cant find root
[13:18] <Quentin`> Hey there :)
[13:18] <unop_> zeno_, that appears blank but anyway, no need for that now, you need to manually install java
[13:19] <zeno_> hmmm the ppc version seem to be for the mac
[13:19] <Quentin`> ﻿please i've red many topics on how to configure ubuntu as to get the php mail function working... But it's still not working, i don't get anny error but the mail is not sent... Any idea on how to fix it, or at least how to get the error.. ?
[13:19] <zeno_> oh it tipped the spam filter
[13:19] <kane77> Lamego, kinetic_ thanx will try those
[13:19] <Oprtz> Lamego:  i am also not able to login on default screen asking username and password, i use failgnome session and then it let me IN, how to configure this please?
[13:19] <Lamego> Quentin`, Have you installed a local MTA like postfix ?
[13:20] <Quentin`> Lamego: yes i did, i installed postfix, then uncomment the line php.ini, then restart apache2, but nothing is sent...
[13:20] <Quentin`> :'(
[13:20] <Lamego> Oprtz, how did you get into that state ? Have you removed packages ?
[13:20] <Jianjun-Kong> :)hello,everyone
[13:20] <icesword> nite
[13:20] <Lamego> Quentin`, if you installed postfix you can check the mail logs, /var/log/mail.log
[13:21] <Lamego> if you use a local smtp you are not required to touch the php.ini at all
[13:21] <mltom> HardDrive Space Usage using Xubuntu 7.10???????
[13:21] <Quentin`> ok thank you Lamego i'm gonna check the log, thank you :)
[13:22] <Quentin`> Lamego, but the path wasn't in php.ini, i just added /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i to it
[13:22] <Oprtz> there was a guy who help me , because after giving username and passwords i just see a yellow screen , yes  we did something, i am new to linux, so dont know what he did to my pc, but actualy he helped me, and i am in now
[13:22] <Lamego> mltom, an ubuntu install, about 2G, xubuntu should be <
[13:22] <mltom> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[13:22] <mltom> /dev/hde1              32G  2.1G   28G   7% /
[13:22] <mltom> varrun                 62M  204K   62M   1% /var/run
[13:22] <mltom> varlock                62M     0   62M   0% /var/lock
[13:22] <mltom> udev                   62M   64K   62M   1% /dev
[13:22] <FloodBot2> mltom: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:22] <mltom> devshm                 62M     0   62M   0% /dev/shm
[13:22] <Lamego> Oprtz, if you don't know what you did to break your gnome session, it will be hard to fix it
[13:23] <mltom> no matter what I do , I can't get Xubuntu to use my whole drive
[13:23] <Oprtz> Lamego:  i get these errors in terminal now (update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
[13:23] <Oprtz> Errors were encountered while processing:
[13:23] <Oprtz>  linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic
[13:23] <Oprtz> )
[13:23] <FloodBot2> Oprtz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:23] <mltom> okay
[13:23] <Lamego> Oprtz, that is not an error, its a message from a package install
[13:24] <Lamego> ok, the last part is an er5ror :P
[13:24] <Oprtz> Lamego:  we just make a new user name and then we change the resoultion of screen and thats all
[13:24] <hischild> are the backports safe?
[13:24] <Oprtz> Lamego:  ahh ok
[13:24] <Oprtz> Lamego:  so now what to do? i love ubuntu and want to use it
[13:24] <mltom> I've installed Xubuntu 7.10 four times & used Gparted twice but still can't use the whole harddrive
[13:24] <Lamego> Oprtz, you did something else, installation related, creating an user and changing the resolution would not play with apt
[13:25] <jack_spratt> hey i got a really simple question I think, shouldnt take a min to answer....
[13:25] <jack_spratt>  im jus trying to set up pcmcia wireless card; its supported well in ndiswraper, so, i have installed ndiswraper, installed the driiver via gui (which seems to have gone fine accordintg to ndiswrapper -l), but i cant seem to activate the wireless interface...
[13:25] <jack_spratt> i installed wlanassistant but it didt work;l crashed out when it started; i also installed 'networlkl selector', but that makes no attempt to start up it seeems
[13:25] <jack_spratt>  do i need to install something else? seems that the fact i want to use wireless just hasnt registered whererever it needs to be.
[13:25] <Dani> hello ! i have a linux os , not a known distribution ! i want to install a program from source but i don't have a c compiler ! how can i install one ?
[13:25] <Lamego> hischild, in general, yes, they should be
[13:25] <Arelis> Hello everybody. I activated the framebuffer option by adding vga=something to the Kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst, but when i boot that i get a black screen.
[13:25] <Arelis> Why?
[13:25] <hischild> Lamego, in general is good enough for me. Tnx
[13:25] <Lamego> Daniel^, try ##linux
[13:25] <Dani__> hello ! i have a linux os , not a known distribution ! i want to install a program from source but i don't have a c compiler ! how can i install one ?
[13:26] <Oprtz> Lamego: no we only do this and then he told me to log in with failgnome session, because normal login dont work for me, bcz of my vga i think
[13:26] <Pici> Dani__: This channel is only for Ubuntu support, please ask in ##linux
[13:26] <Evil_Ed> yo
[13:26] <Oprtz> Lamego: when i log in to my username it says u want to delete some files, then i accept it
[13:26] <Oprtz> maybe ur talking abt those files
[13:26] <Dani__> ubuntu is a linux disto ... ???
[13:26] <Pici> Dani__: Yes.
[13:27] <Lamego> Dani__, yes it is, one of many
[13:27] <Dani__> so .. why it is.. then why can't u answer my question ?
[13:27] <Pici> Dani__: But we only support Ubuntu, not 'random unknown distros'
[13:27] <Lamego> Dani__, because your question is not about Ubuntu in particular, you don't even seem to know what distro you are using
[13:27] <Dr_willis> Dani__,  check your disrtos docs/package manager.. install the needed packages.
[13:27] <Dr_willis> ask a vague question. get a vague answer. :)
[13:27] <Dani__> but the same solution may apply
[13:28] <jack_spratt> no one can help with the very siimple question of mine above?
[13:28] <Pici> Dani__: Exactly.
[13:28] <Lamego> Dani__, or it may not
[13:28] <Dr_willis> Dani__,   'package management' is one of the MAJOR differances in some of the different disrtos.
[13:28] <dromer> can someone help me get the right driver for my soundcard? (if that's the problem)
[13:28] <Dani__> k..i'll they don;t answer i;ll be back :))
[13:28] <jack_spratt> it should only take 2 ticks...
[13:28] <Lamego> jack_spratt, it would be simple if someone had the answer, which is not the case :)
[13:28] <Beererde> hi. how can disable scrollkeeper-update?
[13:29] <Pici> Dani__: And we'll tell you the same thing when you get back.
[13:29] <Evil_Ed> you tell me ;)
[13:29] <Oprtz> Lamego:  it ask to restart my machine ? should i go for that?
[13:29] <jack_spratt> bah
[13:29] <Lamego> Beererde, you could rename it's binary, but that is something you should not do
[13:30] <Beererde> Lamego: no other way?
[13:30] <kane77> is medibuntu repository trusted? (stupid question but I'm sometimes paranoid about things :D)
[13:30] <stwange_> it's quite possibly this is coincidence, but twice I've left my machine on for more than 7 days, and both times the internet has slowed to 20kb/s download (instead of usually at least 200kb/s, sometimes close to 1000). Is there anything I should check that could be causing this?
[13:30] <Lamego> Beererde, none that I am aware, update-scrollkeeper should always be available to manage gnome documentation during soft install/uninstall
[13:31] <Lamego> stwange_, /var/log/messages
[13:31] <unop_> stwange_, did you compare your downloads across many sources?
[13:32] <Oprtz> Lamego:  i restart my computer and now i can log in without failgnome session :) thanks for ur help
[13:32] <stwange_> unop_, yeah, repositories, either of my shells, google, youtube (same server i know), adobe, every site takes ages to load and downloads are capped at 20kb. Streaming radio from the bbc doesn't work either, keeps jumping
[13:33] <aoupi> hi, somehowe I have ended up with green scrollbars and lightblue text in input boxes, I removed a theme I had in .themes and now gnome doesn't work, I went into fluxbox but still the green scrollbars and lightblue text, then I got xubuntu but still the same. where do I change the colors of the scrollbars and input text?
[13:33] <stwange_> Lamego, it's mainly a mix of: Apr 11 12:39:51 blackweb -- MARK -- and Apr 11 12:50:44 blackweb kernel: [690910.682420] hdc: lost interrupt
[13:34] <aoupi> oh, also window border is green, this color is making my head hurt :)
[13:34] <onats> whats the application that looks like mac's dock?
[13:35] <kinetic_> avant window manager
[13:35] <onats> !avant
[13:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:35] <DJones> !awn
[13:35] <ubotu> Avant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that positions itself at the bottom of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager is included in Universe for Hardy, installation instructions for Gutsy can be found here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-avant-window-navigator-awn-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[13:35] <urGy> aoupi: system -> prefrenses -> apperence
[13:36] <onats> thanks!:)
[13:36] <aoupi> urGy: I'm in xubuntu now since gnome decided not to start, but I tired that before, changing themes and colors didn't help
[13:37] <IdleOne> !awn | kinetic_
[13:37] <ubotu> kinetic_: Avant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that positions itself at the bottom of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager is included in Universe for Hardy, installation instructions for Gutsy can be found here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-avant-window-navigator-awn-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[13:37] <IdleOne> ohh errr
[13:37] <urGy> aoupi: Ok... I see.. Sorry, don't know xubuntu that well... But give me a sec...
[13:39] <aoupi> urGy: this is how it looks: http://bay01.imagebay.com/bay.php?view=30470_Iwantcolors.png
[13:40] <urGy> aoupi: ouch! thats really awfull!
[13:40] <aoupi> no kidding :)
[13:40] <zeno_> OH MY GOD i rebooted and my home directory is gone, x wont start and most programs arnt installed WTF
[13:40] <aoupi> I think it might have to do with gdm since it's the same in both xubuntu and fluxbox
[13:41] <aoupi> but I couldn't find anything relevent when I looked around in the conf files, maybe I'm missing something
[13:41] <blue__> ubuntu logout sound is truncated..so how can i prevent this?
[13:41] <Dr_willis> sounds almost like the red went out on the monitor aoupi
[13:41] <aoupi> Dr_willis: no, that's not the problem, it's just some theme-weirdness
[13:41] <blue__> any settings for logout sound hearing?
[13:42] <Dr_willis> aoupi,  it may be your gtk theme settings.  but that wouldent affect fluxbox.. UNLESS you run gtk apps in fluxbox..
[13:42] <eu-jin> blue__ - sys>pref>sound?
[13:42] <aoupi> Dr_willis: I did run gtk apps actualy
[13:42] <Dr_willis> aoupi,  try making a new user - see if it affects them?
[13:43] <urGy> aoupi: sorry m8.. couldn't find it....
[13:43] <blue__> i know it eu-jin but logout i think too fast and shuts the sound
[13:43] <aoupi> Dr_willis: ok, be back in a minute or two
[13:43] <Dr_willis> actually running a gtk app under fluxbox. would still be using the fluxbox themes for the window deforation. just not the wiegets.
[13:43] <aoupi> urGy: ok, thanks for trying
[13:43] <blue__> i have a sound for logout
[13:43] <komputes> Ikeep getting NumLk after logging in because it remembers that NumLk was on at shutdown, does anyone know how to turn off NumLk from memory after logging in?
 sorry. if that's the case, i dun really have any idea y.. =)
[13:44] <blue__> but logout is so fast that i cant hear my sound
[13:44] <blue__> ubuntu logout sound lol
[13:44] <cicco> !list
[13:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:45] <mans_> #pinoysex
[13:46] <joep> Hello. Does anybody know what is used in ubuntu for the command chkconfig?
[13:46] <Dr_willis> joep,  Huh?
[13:47] <x0x> hello
[13:47] <x0x> how to install GD2 libraries ?
[13:47] <hischild> !find GD2
[13:47] <ubotu> Found: libgd-gd2-perl, libgdchart-gd2-noxpm, libgdchart-gd2-noxpm-dev, libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl, libgdchart-gd2-xpm (and 5 others)
[13:47] <raboof> someone set the status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-plugins/+bug/84900 to 'invalid', which imho is incorrect
[13:47] <hischild> x0x, which one? ^
[13:47] <natalisushka> Hi ppl. I am having a problem with compiz on my laptop (LG, 1.7GH Centrino, ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300] 768MB of RAMS, ubuntu 7.10) .. The problem is that everytime I turn it on, it works fine until I use a lot of processor consuming softwares or a lot of apps, my system totally freezes (even mouse) and there is no way to solve it except my switching off power manually :( I just need some advice, shall i increase
[13:47] <natalisushka>  memory ? or is it ATI? is there something I can install to solve this problem?
[13:47] <raboof> is it ok for me to change the status back? or what is the procedure here?
[13:48] <joep> Dr_willis: The standard linux command to control the network environment.
[13:48] <aoupi> Dr_willis: hey, it looked normal! :D
[13:48] <aoupi> Dr_willis: in both gnome and xfce
[13:48] <aoupi> Dr_willis: what preferences should I delete to fix my account?
[13:48] <Ehlyah> also in need of help. Desktop with ubuntu won't connect to internet. Drivers were installed with ndiswrapper
[13:48] <Dr_willis> joep,  i cant recall ever seeing that as a standard command.
[13:48] <hischild> raboof, it was set to invalid because it was not a bug but a feature removed on purpose.
[13:49] <Dr_willis> aoupi,  Not sure. :) you could start moving stuff to some .backup_configs dir and see which does it. I would start with the .gtk* dirs
[13:49] <joep> Dr_willis: Look in Fedora (Redhat) and Suse to name 2.
[13:49] <aoupi> Dr_willis: ok, I'll play around a bit :)
[13:50] <Dr_willis> joep,  just because they have it does not make it 'standard linux' command. They have a lot of other  customized utilities that are not in the varioys debian related disrtos.
[13:50] <raboof> hischild: not really. imho removing the feature was a temporary fix to a practical problem
[13:50] <crdlb> raboof: you could ask in #ubuntu-bugs
[13:50] <raboof> hischild: there could well be another way to solve the problem, which doesn't require removing the feature
[13:50] <hischild> raboof, i quote from tapas at comment 11 "this is not a bug but broken by design."
[13:50] <hischild> raboof, also, offtopic
[13:51] <joep> Dr_willis: : Yes, I discover that in my process to go from FC7 to Ubuntu. Sound is completely different, the security is different and that are the things I just have found.
[13:51] <Dr_willis> joep,  you missed the package management system. :)
[13:51] <natalisushka>  Hi ppl. I am having a problem with compiz on my laptop (LG, 1.7GH Centrino, ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300] 768MB of RAMS, ubuntu 7.10) .. The problem is that everytime I turn it on, it works fine until I use a lot of processor consuming softwares or a lot of apps, my system totally freezes (even mouse) and there is no way to solve it except my switching off power manually :( I just need some advice, shall i increase
[13:51] <psycoman> how can i enable XShm extension ?
[13:51] <natalisushka>  memory ? or is it ATI? is there something I can install to solve this problem?
[13:51] <Ehlyah> in need of help. Desktop with ubuntu won't connect to internet. Drivers were installed with ndiswrapper and wlan0 exists, but isn't detected by network monitor
[13:51] <joep> Dr_willis: You mean synaptic?
[13:52] <Dr_willis> joep,  synaptic is just a front end to the apt-get/dpkg/deb system.
[13:52] <unop_> joep, you could use update-rc.d instead of chkconfig
[13:53] <daro> Hi, can anyone answer a question about ubuntu and linux in general?
[13:53] <joep> Dr_willis: Ok., good to know but I am of course accustomed to RPM and dpkg is still a mystery for me.
[13:53] <Dr_willis> update-rc.d  - has to be one of the worse/oddest named commands ive seen in a long time.
[13:53] <erUSUL> !ask | daro
[13:53] <ubotu> daro: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:53] <unop_> joep, or service - provided by sysvconfig
[13:53] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: why update the rc directory links → update-rc.d ;P
[13:53] <Wyvern|> Hey, does anyone know how I can get a cron job to run more frequently than once per hour?
[13:54] <joep> unop_: You mean sysvconfig is a replacement for chkconfig?
[13:54] <unop_> joep, there's a reasons things are different, the difference is one of the reasons the distros are set apart.
[13:54] <daro> Why does linux/ubuntu have software packs that don't have all the needed files for the installation, why not just give all software packs the needed files? I am talking about Skype specifically
[13:54] <Dr_willis> erUSUL,  yea.. lets put dashes AND dots in command names! heh
[13:54] <hischild> joep, use apt-get and it should feel quite alike to yum.
[13:55] <unop_> joep, i believe the RH based distros have a 'service' command .. if you install the sysvconfig package you get it .. otherwise update-rc.d is the preferred way to control services
[13:55] <Dr_willis> daro,  skype is not exactly under the controll of ubuntu. so  that may be the issue with skype.
[13:55] <Ehlyah> in need of help. Desktop with ubuntu won't connect to internet. Drivers were installed with ndiswrapper and wlan0 exists, but isn't detected by network monitor
[13:55] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: common practice if you ask me to put .d for directories of conf files in debian and it is getting more common the last to join the club sources.list and its /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ XD
[13:55] <Dr_willis> daro,  the package manager system is supposed to get needed deps  when you install things with apt-get. a BIG file that contained them all.. would be redundant.
[13:55] <maek> daro I agree Linux really needs a setup.exe type file to install software
[13:56] <Dr_willis> maek,  and we need spyware also! :)
[13:56] <joep> unop_: Yes, that's one of the reasons I want to switch to ubuntu as I have the impression it is faster with updates for the various programs and a little more transparant but it also has the "MSW" problem to hide averything that is relevant.
[13:56] <Dr_willis> and a dozen different isntaller tools.. and a dozen more Update tools!
[13:56] <hischild> maek, we have that. It's called .deb's
[13:56] <maek> yeah but no one uses deb files
[13:56] <Dr_willis> self installing .debs ! :)
[13:56] <psycoman> how can i enable XShm extension in xorg? or it will builtin ?
[13:57] <Dr_willis> psycoman,  you edit the xorg.conf and put in the proper options..  (and no i dont rember them)
[13:57] <maek> Dr_willis, not everything you want is in the repos
[13:57] <Dr_willis> maek,  so?
[13:57] <daro> Is there a way of installing skype on Ubuntu, because I downloaded a .tar.gz file from Skype but when I try to install it it tells me that it doesn't have all the dependencies
[13:57] <kinetic_> skype has a deb
[13:57] <unop> joep, sorry, what is MSW?
[13:57] <kinetic_> just not in repo
[13:58] <maek> compiling from source is painful
[13:58] <daro> kinetic_ where can I find this .deb package because in www.skype.com I dont find it anywhere
[13:58] <Ehlyah> in need of help. Desktop with ubuntu won't connect to internet. Drivers were installed with ndiswrapper and wlan0 exists, but isn't detected by network monitor
[13:58] <DJones> !skype | daro
[13:58] <ubotu> daro: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[13:58] <hischild> maek, everything i want is in the repo's
[13:58] <daro> !skype
[13:59] <Dr_willis> daro,  you dont get the auto-dependencies isntalled with single deb file installation. thats why apt-get and the repoitory system exists.
[13:59] <Dr_willis> if you download a single deb. you are taking responsibility to find all the needed dependencies.
[13:59] <maek> dependencies are crap ...
[13:59] <kinetic_>  cool, they have a repo for skype now
[13:59] <checkers> hi, what's the default file manager in ubuntu called?
[13:59] <maek> it should be all in the OS
[14:00] <kinetic_> nautilus
[14:00] <hischild> Dr_willis, .deb's do install dependencies for me
[14:00] <joep> unop: Short for MicroSoftWindows (the worst OS ever!).
[14:00] <hischild> checkers, nautilus
[14:00] <maek> checkers, nautilus
[14:00] <kinetic_> checkers: nautilus
[14:00] <checkers> thanks, will it be the same in 8.04?
[14:00] <unop> maek, dependencies make the world go round  they're good
[14:00] <Dr_willis> hischild,  oh? how ya managing that?
[14:00] <Dr_willis> i rarely ever get a single .deb :)
[14:00] <maek> yeah and a lot better version checkers
[14:00]  * Ehlyah spams her question some more
[14:00] <Ehlyah> in need of help. Desktop with ubuntu won't connect to internet. Drivers were installed with ndiswrapper and wlan0 exists, but isn't detected by network monitor
[14:00] <joep> checkers: The default is nautilus. If you want to run it under root don't forget to use xhost +.
[14:00] <kinetic_> .deb's do not handle dependencies..apt does
[14:01] <hischild> Dr_willis, well i got a deb once that i needed, and it said to me that it needed to get 47 dependencies. So i hit install, type password, hit install again, it dl'd the dependencies and voila
[14:01] <unop> joep, i don't know what you mean by that but the great thing is you can customize everything pretty much to your needs.
[14:01] <maek> in windows theres no dependencies
[14:01] <Dr_willis> hischild,  'hit install' You mean you used the GUI tools.. not 'dpkg'
[14:01] <maek> its all in the OS
[14:01] <Kinetic> maek : not true
[14:01] <hischild> Dr_willis, true
[14:01] <unop> maek, there are, you just don't see them
[14:01] <Dr_willis> maek,  thats 100% wrong.
[14:01] <maek> except for .NET
[14:01] <Pici> daro, Dr_willis: gdebi will pull in needed dependencies from apt, dpkg will not.
[14:01] <hischild> Dr_willis, we're talking about .deb's, not about dpkg ;-)
[14:02] <unop> maek, dependencies are handled by the installers, it's all taken care of for you
[14:02] <Dr_willis> hischild,  you are talking about gdebi not .deb's :)
[14:02] <joep> unop: In WIndows??? Everything is hidden, error messages are meaningless, etc. I have given up on Windows >10 years ago and have never regretted it (especially as we have VMWARE{!).
[14:02] <hischild> Dr_willis, .exe like files are .deb's, which are both installed using GUI tools. dpkg is a command line tool for which windows has none.
[14:03] <Dr_willis> so the question is.. is there a command line tool that will look at a .deb file and determine the needed dependences?
[14:03] <Dr_willis> hischild,  thers some flaws with that logic.. :) but i will let it pass..
[14:03] <itguru> I have to transfer a 600MB file, and I wish to use SCP to do it, but I do not want to sap all the bandwith of the link it's going to *remote office abroad with a 256k line* how can I make this transfer go slowly?
[14:03] <maek> but anyway as a whole the Linux community needs to come up with a good file type that will install software painlessly across all distros
[14:03] <Ehlyah> in need of help. Desktop with ubuntu won't connect to internet. Drivers were installed with ndiswrapper and wlan0 exists, but isn't detected by network monitor
[14:03] <joep> Dr_willis: IN fedora ther is: it's called yum.
[14:03] <Dr_willis> maek,  go for it...
[14:04] <unop> joep, if you are implying that ubuntu behaves like windows in that respect, everyone in here will disagree :)
[14:04] <Dr_willis> Package management/software management is such a 'interesting' topic.. so many neat little things to look out for.
[14:04] <Kinetic> maek: across all distros..ill agree... but most major distros have  really good package managing in place already
[14:04] <maek> lol Dr_willis all I know is MS basic
[14:04] <Kinetic> no mroe difficult than windows..just a different world
[14:04] <joep> maek: I have no experince with dpkg but RPM does a reasonably good job. You also can look up at smart, which tries to do what you want.
[14:04] <Dr_willis> maek,  time to learn some Comal! and Forth!
[14:05] <unop> maek, package managers manage things quite well, really no need to reinvent the wheel again.
[14:05] <Kinetic> i work in desktop engineering... trust me windows pinstallers are FAR FAR FAR from perfect
[14:05] <Kinetic> repackaging a windows app is hell
[14:05] <Dr_willis> Kinetic,  you design Desks? :)
[14:05] <Kinetic> correct :)
[14:06] <Kinetic> best desks this side of the mississippi!
[14:06] <maek> Kinetic, how are we going to get proprietary software makers to make software for Linux ... they are not going to muck around with different file types
[14:06] <Ehlyah> my network exists when I type ifconfig and I can modify it in network settings, but I still can't connect. Help?
[14:06] <_Andrew> maek, They already do, Skype being a good example
[14:06] <Kinetic> maek just takes time... you'd be surprised how many vendors DO support linux that you dont know about
[14:06] <aoupi> Dr_willis: I moved all .gtk* files away and now it looks nice again, thanks :)
[14:07] <unop> maek, they can release their products as tarballs (which most do) and the various distros then make packages from the tarballs.
[14:07] <Kinetic> half the time you wont see the linux versions if you are coming froma windows box
[14:07] <benpicco> Hi, where can one enter the PMK key of a WPA encrypted wlan?
[14:07] <Kinetic> unless you dig
[14:07] <joep> unop: well, I'm a newbie in Ubuntu (with >15 years of Unix experience and all the graphic stuff that hides the real thing is in some respect a disaster as it doesn't give you the tools and the means to resolve problems in the interface between hardware and software.
[14:07] <psycoman> i dont find in google how to setup xshm module, some know how to enable it ?
[14:07] <maek> all the big software companies really need to make Linux versions of their software like Photoshop for example
[14:08] <alphakamp> Game studios need to make games for Linux
[14:08] <Dr_willis> maek,  and all the big companies need to just hand out large amounts of Money also!
[14:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:08] <skarface> maek: yeah, they need a new market for warez
[14:08] <jack_spratt> has anybody here ever used ndiswrapper?
[14:08] <Dr_willis> while we are wishing for the 'not going to happen' stuff....
[14:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:08] <_Andrew> maek, CS2 works under wine if you're looking to get it running
[14:08] <Kinetic> joep : well said
[14:08] <Ehlyah> does CS3 work under wine?
[14:08] <hischild> Ehlyah, no
[14:09] <Ehlyah> fudge
[14:09] <maek> unop but its always open up to the terminal cd to the tarballs directory and input confusing commands to make the software install
[14:09] <unop> joep, if you have that much experience, you don't really need the graphical tools (thats really an excuse) - the CLI provides you pretty much the same means of troubleshooting across distros (unless you depend on disto-specific tools like chkconfig :) )
[14:09]  * benpicco wonders weather and when UT3 will be released for linux
[14:09] <alphakamp> I found a how to that says TF2 works under the latest wine, you need at least a 7 series card for it to work well though
[14:10] <maek> _Andrew, im just looking at things from the 3rd person rather from my point of view ... I can install anything in Linux no problems
[14:10] <_Andrew> I know portal and Half life 2 epsiode 2 work on wine
[14:10] <Kinetic> they still havne't released UT3 port?
[14:10] <hischild> not to ruin the fun for all you package discussion guys, but please take it to offtopic or somewhere else.
[14:10] <Ehlyah> my network exists when I type ifconfig and I can modify it in network settings, but I still can't connect. Help?
[14:10] <alphakamp> Ive tried it but everytime i would exit the game, X would crash
[14:11] <Kinetic> cedega is great..not "free" but i run anything i want to play on it...anything that doesnt work with cedega i dont want to play anyways
[14:11] <unop> maek, well, it's better than put everything into a graphical installer and you have no access to manipulate the package - it's the way you have the maximum outreach across distros -- and most of the popular products are packaged by distro maintainers
[14:11] <Jowi> Ehlyah: can you ping the gateway?
[14:11] <maek> but when a windows user comes across to Linux and they go to a website and download a tarball and double click on it and it doesn't do anything
[14:11] <_Andrew> Ehlyah, Is it a wired connection?
[14:11] <joep> unop: I agree to a certain level. The problem is that the distro's use the graphic tools to install all programs but don't explain exactly what they do. It is often like trying to fix your radio without an scheme.
[14:11] <Kinetic> maek: windows users still have to RTFM
[14:12] <Ehlyah> _Andrew, no wifi
[14:12] <Kinetic> hence the many viruses and worms they get from blindly double clicking anything with .exe
[14:12] <Ehlyah> jowi, how? total newbie here
[14:12] <maek> I suppose Kinetic
[14:12] <unop> joep, there's excellent documentation thats always available when you are stuck - unless you are not bothered to go through it
[14:12] <Pici> !offtopic | Kinetic maek joep unop
[14:12] <ubotu> Kinetic maek joep unop: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:12] <Jowi> !wifi | Ehlyah (good place to start if you haven't already read it)
[14:12] <ubotu> Ehlyah (good place to start if you haven't already read it): Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:12] <Kinetic> Pici ?
[14:12] <Jowi> Ehlyah: sorry, can't help with wireless (since I don't have one)
[14:12] <maek> sorry mods ... got a bit carried away there lolz
[14:12] <Pici> Please take philosophical discussion of package management elsewhere, perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic.
[14:13] <Kinetic> ok
[14:13] <joep> Kinetic: Don't let me laugh! manuals written by marketeers for dumbo's. Look at the problemsolving tool that is used .
[14:13] <Ehlyah> I've read about a million how tos and tutorials already, but I suppose one more can't hurt
[14:13] <Pici> This channel is meant only for Ubuntu Support Questions and Answers.
[14:13] <maek> rightyo anyone got an Ubuntu problem ??
[14:13] <joep> Yes, sorry. I was carried away.
[14:14] <reduser5> hey all ... bit of a linux novice here - what are the best methods to view which processes / services etc are active on my workstation and what status they may be in?
[14:14] <reduser5> (please)
[14:14] <hischild> reduser5, try the system monitor under system -> adminstration
[14:14] <reduser5> tks
[14:14] <Pici> reduser5: you could us ps aux, or top (or install htop, its more usable that top is)
[14:14] <joep> maek; How to solve the request from vmware to shutdown IPv6?
[14:15] <maek> the process manager is bloody good in ubuntu
[14:15] <joep> (make: therefore I needed chkconfig).
[14:15] <_Andrew> reduser5, System -> Admin -> System Monitor
[14:15] <_Andrew> reduser5, Resources tab
[14:15] <maek> I don't have a lot of experience with VMware sorry joep ... I used it to install ubuntu once though
[14:16] <benpicco> reduser5: if you need something non-graphical, you'll like htop
[14:16] <Pici> joep: You seek to disable ipv6?
[14:16] <joep> Pici: yes.
[14:16] <unop_> joep, i already told you - update-rc.d as a replacement for chkconfig
[14:16] <unop_> man update-rc.d
[14:16] <Pici> !ipv6 | joep this should help you
[14:16] <ubotu> joep this should help you: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[14:16] <Dr_willis> alias chkconfig='update-rc.d'
[14:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:17] <unop_> Dr_willis, err, that wont quite cut it tho :)
[14:17] <Dr_willis> and here i thought chkconfig was for checking the samba smb.conf file..
[14:17] <Belkinhelp3> hello all
[14:17] <_Andrew> hi
[14:17] <jack_spratt> ok, this is frustrating, 1233 users, many or most of whom have used ndiswrapper i imagine, none of whom are prepared to even aknowledge as much or give me a few simple replies
[14:17] <joep> unop: Sorry. I didn't realise that, I thought it was a directory. I look it up.
[14:17] <Jianjun-Kong> hello,Belkinhelp3
[14:17] <Belkinhelp3> im new to ubuntu...about 3 months old now
[14:17] <JaccoH> ok so who took packages.ubuntu.com down? come on.. admit :D
[14:17] <_Andrew> jack_spratt, You said something?
[14:17] <Jianjun-Kong> I have use ubuntu 2 years.
[14:18] <bazhang> jack_spratt: what simple reply did you wish? perhaps I can comply
[14:18] <Belkinhelp3> 3 days ago i had a power outage that killed my system.  I have another system to replace it
[14:18] <Dr_willis> simple reply = I dont use wireless.. sorry..
[14:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:18] <jack_spratt> andrew; bazhang: thanks
[14:18] <unop_> JaccoH, it's been that way for a couple of days now -- you can always use apt-cache and dpkg to do searching
[14:18] <Belkinhelp3> my question is this, i have on the new system a raid controller for SATA
[14:18] <jrib> jack_spratt: if no one knows how to help you, no one will answer.  Try again later or try the other !support options
[14:18] <alphakamp> jack_spratt: I would help you but I havent had to use ndiswrapper with my laptop, Fiesty got wireless working with restrited drivers module
[14:18] <_Andrew> jack_spratt, I'm looking for a question.. You didn't ask one
[14:18] <Belkinhelp3> does anyone here notice a difference using a RAID SATA for Ubuntu
[14:19] <Belkinhelp3> im mean, installing the Ubuntu OS onto the RAID
[14:19] <jack_spratt> andrew: i did, different times in different ways over the last hour
[14:19] <jack_spratt> andrew: hang on
[14:19] <JaccoH> mm ok
[14:20] <Belkinhelp3> Conversely, does Ubuntu have something similar to windows page file?  Could that be set for RAID as well?
[14:20] <jack_spratt> andrew: basically all i want to ask is, when you have installed a ndiswrapper driver using the gui, how do you connect?
[14:20] <JaccoH> so is there a simple way to use/test the hardy kernel on gutsy? or do i have to risk upgrading? :)
[14:20] <alphakamp> Belkinhelp3: I havent done so but I dont see why SATA wouldnt provide an performacne increase over say, IDE
[14:20] <benpicco> Belkinhelp3: the swap partition
[14:20] <hischild> Belkinhelp3, it's called a swap file. I think you can do it as well on RAID.
[14:20] <jack_spratt> alphakamp: thanks for answering
[14:20] <Belkinhelp3> And lastly, my original HD is still functional.  Can i simply install it into another system and will Ubuntu recognize the new hardware accordingly or would I have to do a fresh install?
[14:21] <Dr_willis> Belkinhelp3,  ive had mixed luck with doing that.. depends on the exact hardware changes.
[14:21] <Dr_willis> Belkinhelp3,  try it and see. :)  whats it going to hurt.
[14:21] <jrib> jack_spratt: have you read the wiki page on wifi however?
[14:21] <jack_spratt> jrib: i think so, can you link?
[14:21] <Belkinhelp3> Dr_willis....how about this then...install Ubuntu on the RAID then install the original drive...can I access it with a fresh version of Ubuntu?
[14:22] <jrib> !wifi > jack_spratt (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:22] <jack_spratt> jrib: i read the help pages associated with the apps
[14:22] <jack_spratt> jrib: ok
[14:22] <joep> unop: I've read the manpages on it but it is actually a wrapper application for easy maintaining the runlevels of the different applications.
[14:22] <unop_> Belkinhelp3, i usually plug the new HDD in, boot up with a live CD chroot in and run this.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-blah
[14:22] <Belkinhelp3> Im really new at ubuntu and unsure.  With windows i would know how to get the data
[14:22] <_Andrew> jack_spratt, You want to use your wifi?
[14:23] <unop_> joep, so, what is missing that chkconfig provides?
[14:23] <benpicco> Belkinhelp3: if you want to do a fresh install and keep all your settings/personal data, just backpu your home folder
[14:23] <Belkinhelp3> ok sounds good....linux-image-blah would be what then?
[14:23] <joep> I use for several years now Webmin, an application that gives a browser interface to many applications and I can do practically all maintenance with that tool.
[14:23] <Dr_willis> Belkinhelp3,  with 'raid' i have found that way too many machines have cheap semi-software raid controllers. that are a pain to get going. Ive stopped using raid.
[14:23] <unop_> Belkinhelp3, well, linux-image-<version_number> .. is a package
[14:23] <Belkinhelp3> benpicco...ok...fresh install and then copy home folder onto the fresh install did i get the right?
[14:24] <Dr_willis> Belkinhelp3,  i would keep linux on the non-raid drive to play with. :)
[14:24] <jader> #macapa
[14:24] <jack_spratt> andrew: yes
[14:24] <unop_> !webmin | joep
[14:24] <ubotu> joep: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[14:24] <_Andrew> System->Admin->Network
[14:24] <_Andrew> jack_spratt,  System->Admin->Network
[14:24] <jack_spratt> andrew: the card is supported in ndiswrapper, the driver is installed, the driver works on other distros
[14:24] <unop_> joep, webmin works somewhat, but it's really not something you should rely on
[14:24] <benpicco> Belkinhelp3: You prophaly won't need to reinstall everything, but just in case you have to, that's the way you get the system in the same state you left it ;)
[14:24] <Belkinhelp3> Dr_willis and all, where can i find information on performance for OS on RAID or just simply the page file on RAID?  Id like to compare if someone has already done it
[14:25] <jack_spratt> andrew: ok, in there are only two options, modem and ethernet, i cant seem to add a wireles interface
[14:25] <benpicco> Belkinhelp3: as all personal configuration ist stored in your home
[14:25] <_Andrew> jack_spratt, Did you just install it? Maybe you need to restart before it shows up?
[14:25] <Dr_willis> Belkinhelp3,  thers a large varity of raid setups, and a larger varity of controllers and thenya got all sorts of other things to look out for. :)
[14:25] <unop_> benpicco, Belkinhelp3 - it's not necessary that you do a complete reinstall - that would be a waste of your time
[14:25] <_Andrew> jack_spratt, Is your Wifi turned on?
[14:25] <Belkinhelp3> benpicco...yes all personal data is in home folder
[14:25] <jack_spratt> andrew: it has been restarted, from cli 'ndiswrapper -l' shows device is present
[14:26] <jack_spratt> andrew: maybe i need ndiswrapper -m or something first??
[14:26] <joep> ubotu: I didn't know that. That's bad news. Is there any reason for? and unop: I want to turn off ipv6 only and that is turned on somewhere in I thought IP-tables but of that I'm not sure.
[14:26] <Belkinhelp3> Dr_willis...im just looking at RAID 0, lets call it striping because as far as I can tell there is no redundancy
[14:26] <jack_spratt> andrew: its pcmcia; no way to turn it on or off physically as far as i know if thats what you mean
[14:27] <Dr_willis> Belkinhelp3,  ive given up totally on raid. so cant help much. I dident find the gain worth the pain.
[14:27] <_Andrew> jack_spratt, Try restarting and going to System->Admin->Network
[14:27] <Belkinhelp3> Dr_willis...software or hardware RAID?
[14:27] <jack_spratt> well ok, but itt has been restarted once since the driver was installed; you think i should restart again now?
[14:28] <Dr_willis> Belkinhelp3,  finding a total hardware raid. seems to bea bit hard these days. :) without spending  more $$$ then i want.
[14:28] <Oprtz> hi there
[14:28] <Dr_willis> Belkinhelp3,  then theres the total software route - that i hear under linux - works decently.. THEn ya got the cheap raid controllers on most MB;s that are semi-hardware...
[14:28] <Oprtz> i am using vesa" driver and you need help switching to the "intel" driver.
[14:29] <damaltor> hey there, can someone tell me when ubuntu 8.04 will be there? i hope it will not be a 8.05... thanks!
[14:29] <Belkinhelp3> ok, wish me luck
[14:29] <hischild> !hardy | damaltor
[14:29] <ubotu> damaltor: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:29] <Belkinhelp3> thanks all
[14:29] <jack_spratt> _Andrew: ?
[14:29] <damaltor> thanks
[14:29] <unop_> joep, ubotu is the resident bot, it's not an actual person - to turn off ipv6, you need to change 'alias net-pf-10 ipv6 ' to 'alias net-pf-10 off' in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and reboot
[14:29] <_Andrew> jack_spratt, Have you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[14:29] <Oprtz> i am using vesa" driver and you need help switching to the "intel" driver.
[14:30] <Dallas> can someone tell me how to find a certin subject? I just DL HyIRC, I have no idea what im doing
[14:30] <fd12> what is a good program that can make an image out of my current install and restore it when i want if i screw up later?
[14:30] <unop_> joep, webmin is really the lazy man's tool -- it's not comprehensive enough to manage a system effectively (whether it be redhat or slackware or debian, etc) - it's bad for you :)
[14:31] <jack_spratt> _Andrew: just rereading it now
[14:31] <joep> unop: Sorry: I was talking to a robot!but thanks a lot. In Ubuntu a lot is very much different so this channel is a real help for getting answers. I have saved your answer.
[14:31] <Dallas> no one?
[14:32] <SyberJJ> anyone can help me out? i wanna isntall wine but it is listed "grey" in the add/remove software list
[14:32] <Dr_willis> joep,   theres a free book on ubuntu - google for ubuntu training wiki.
[14:32] <bazhang> fd12: better to install a seperate home partition; that way you can screw up and then reinstall and all your private stuff will be saved; currently though (guessing you have not done this) you might try aptoncd, rsync, among other options
[14:32] <Dr_willis> joep,  300+ pages in pdf frmat
[14:32] <hischild> joep, Dr_willis, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[14:33] <bazhang> also accessed via the !training trigger
[14:33] <Dr_willis> Oh they FINIALLY added that factoid! :)
[14:33] <joep> unop: I know! I know! But I'm a lazy man!!. It is so easy that you forget the quirks. Moreover it is written in Perl so I can dablle a little in the innards.
[14:33] <jack_spratt> andrew: modprobe ndiswrapper jjust hangs
[14:33] <shanky> good afternoon
[14:34] <shanky> I have a gutsy installed since a few a months ago
[14:34] <unop_> joep, well, what can i say? you can install webmin if you really want but it's really not very hard once you learn a few of the basic administration tools you'll be flying
[14:34] <shanky> and since yesterday, and without installing anything especial, I can't use usb devices
[14:35] <shanky> I get a lot of: "Apr 11 15:32:54 porfinlinux kernel: [78124.280000] usb 7-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 72" messages
[14:35] <joep> Dr_willis: Thanks for the tip but does it register the differences with e.g. Fedora?? I don't want to read 300+ pages of which I know most part. Most important of course is the directory structure and the use of e.g.the messagebus by the different applications. i want the technical information.
[14:35] <bazhang> fd12: you can also clone your current system; see /msg ubotu clone for more info
[14:36] <jack_spratt> _Andrew: so what now?
[14:36] <Dr_willis> joep,  nope. its a text book for a total beginners guide to ubuntu. book. it even has a teachers edition, and student edition.
[14:36] <SyberJJ> so am i the ony one uable to install ubuntu?
[14:36] <jones> hello everyone
[14:36] <joep> unop: to be honest: most of it I know: but Webmin is so easy!!
[14:36] <Dr_willis> joep,  but its free. :) so why not download it   and skimm it
[14:36] <b0xxy> can anyone help me with this error, iv tryed all i can i dont understand anymore, its for an eggdrop - http://paste.org/index.php?id=2588
[14:36] <umj> net
[14:36] <jack_spratt> _Andrew: shouldn't the ndiswrapper gui automatically start ndiswrapper service once it has installed a driver?
[14:36] <jones> i am wondering if anybody has problem setting up vhost for Symfony PHP on Ubuntu?
[14:36] <trickskite> ubuntu-fr
[14:36] <bazhang> SyberJJ: you need to detail your errors with some precision then we can perhaps offer help
[14:36] <unop_> joep, webmin is easy alright, too easy to do much practically (one of the reasons ubuntu and debian frown upon it)
[14:37] <_Andrew> jack_spratt, no idea
[14:37] <joep> Dr_willis: I will certainly do it but, although I'm  retired I'm more busy then ever!.
[14:37] <alanbshepard70> I need help, I'm trying to install a game from the repos and somethings wrong. I had the game installed but the game needs two packages, game and game-data. The game-data package was updated when I was notified of updates through the update manager. The update manager uninstalled the game package though. When I try to reinstall the game package with synaptic it marks the game-data package for removal and vice versa. What's wrong?
[14:38] <bazhang> jack_spratt: what does lspci say for that card? just the single line (assuming it is a pci card) and is it internal or external
[14:38] <alphakamp> unop_: I see webmin as a easy interface to use once you have set everything up as you wish on only use to make minor changes thereafter
[14:38] <Jafet> whereis does not seem to handle search terms containing periods properly.
[14:38] <Jafet> Eg. $ whereis python2.4
[14:38] <jack_spratt> bazhang: its pcmcia
[14:38] <joep> unop: I won't go into that. I can do 70 to 80 % of my maintenance with it and the rest is of course commandline.
[14:38] <jack_spratt> bazhang: so lspcmcia then?
[14:38] <bazhang> lspci jack_spratt
[14:39] <joep> alphakamp: That's exactly what I mean.
[14:39] <pc-illiterate> im having problems with an installer. i need some help
[14:39] <Jafet> Is that behavior due to bash or a bug in whereis?
[14:39] <lilsyko> guys
[14:39] <unop_> alphakamp, not true, webmin doesnt really interface with apt very well and thats surely something any debian/ubuntu user works with very regularly, it's also limited with what it provides ..
[14:39] <lilsyko> wanna ask
[14:39] <ertun78> how can i learn one web site ip and host by terminal on ubuntu
[14:39] <lilsyko> i have an ubuntu 6.06LTS mail relay server
[14:39] <lilsyko> if i wanna upgrade it to 7.10
[14:40] <lilsyko> how do i go about doing it ?
[14:40] <hischild> unop_, alphakamp, can you take the discussion elsewhere? it's not support related.
[14:40] <bazhang> pc-illiterate: you need to provide many more details; if someone knows they will answer
[14:40] <unop_> alphakamp, joep anyway, enough of webmin talk. it's there for you to use but it's not supported here.
[14:40] <hischild> !hardy | lilsyko
[14:40] <ubotu> lilsyko: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:40] <jack_spratt> bazhang: i think this is the relevant entry: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Belkin Unknown device 701f (rev 20)
[14:40] <Jafet> lilsyko, the built-in update manager should magic it for you as long as you're connected to internet.
[14:41] <bazhang> jack_spratt: that would be the ethernet device; nothing about the wifi card? what does lsusb yield
[14:41] <arcticpenguin380> is firewire better than usb?
[14:41] <Jafet> lilsyko, being a mail server, I'd assume it is connected to the web.
[14:41] <joep> unop: and the others. We agree on our personalities.
[14:41] <Jafet> arcticpenguin380, in what context?
[14:41] <bazhang> lilsyko: you can go straight from lts to lts if you wait two weeks
[14:41] <arcticpenguin380> for video camcorders
[14:41] <jack_spratt> bazhang: belkin? thats not the ethernet, onl belkin device on there is the pcmcia i think
[14:42]  * JaccoH just took the plunge and typed apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:42] <jack_spratt> bazhang: ill look again for wifi references...
[14:42] <lilsyko> yeah Jafet
[14:42] <LSG> ertun78: Ping
[14:42] <lilsyko> its connected 24/7
[14:42] <joep> Boys, I have to go . I still have other problems with Ubuntu so I will come back on this channel soon. Thanks fotr the help.
[14:42] <Jafet> bazhang, don't you have to upgrade sequentially?
[14:42] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for hardy discussion thanks
[14:42] <stringssing> hello everyone...got a question...
[14:42] <hischild> Jafet, lts to lts can be done in a single step
[14:42] <bazhang> Jafet: not from dapper; there is a one step for that
[14:42] <Jafet> I see.
[14:43] <bazhang> arcticpenguin380: many would consider it so; you might ask in the hardware channel for a more precise answer though
[14:43] <Jafet> Bump:   $ whereis python2.4   strips everything off the period onwards to search for "python2". Is this a feature?
[14:43] <jack_spratt> bazhang: lsusb yields nothing that looks likely
[14:44] <ertun78> is it like  ping http://........ LSG
[14:44] <arcticpenguin380> thx
[14:44] <stringssing> Has anyone been able to successfully manage a Zune in Ubuntu.  I know, I know...Shouldn't have a Zune to begin with...I agree...It's my son's.
[14:44] <LSG> ertun78: Just like "ping www.google.com"
[14:44] <Eelis> is packages.ubuntu.com down?
[14:44] <bazhang> jack_spratt: how about on the card itself? are the details of the chipset on there? that is the key as unknown device wont yield much help here
[14:44] <jack_spratt> bazhang: looks like the belkin device is being misread as an ethernet adapter for some reason; why would this be?
[14:44] <pc-illiterate> im having problems running an installer and any help would be appreciated
[14:45] <jack_spratt> bazhang: its revision 7, i can find out the chipset based on that info
[14:45] <bazhang> pc-illiterate: as I mentioned before, you need to give many more details
[14:45] <Jafet> pc-illiterate, try asking a question.
[14:46] <Drill> êòî òî ìíå ïîìîæåò
[14:46] <jack_spratt> bazhang: but why are we having to do this, why doesnt it just work; any idea? the win driver works well in linux, ive installed that driver, ndiswrapper recognises the device as present, why all these problems?
[14:46] <bazhang> stringssing: what have you tried to do? what mp3 manager are you using in ubuntu? have you successfully mounted etc
[14:47] <bazhang> Drill: english please
[14:47] <Eelis> when is http://packages.ubuntu.com/ expected to be back up?
[14:47] <user1>  iam using tv card Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast De                              coder (rev 01) . i cant make it work. any help?
[14:47] <Drill> bazhang kto to mne pomojet
[14:47] <pc-illiterate> well alrighty then...mounted cd.......terminal root....exported setup_cdrom.......ran shblah-blah.run and it tells me "sh: Can't open blahblah.run
[14:48] <bazhang> Drill: russian?
[14:48] <Drill> bazhang yes
[14:48] <ertun78> tnx LSG ît works
[14:48] <bazhang> pc-illiterate: I would then say blah blah do this; really if you want clear answers then provide clear info thanks
[14:49] <bazhang> !ru | Drill
[14:49] <ubotu> Drill: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[14:49] <user1> yohoo.
[14:49] <x0x> wow
[14:49] <jack_spratt> bazhang: why would it be an unknown device? ndiswrapper recognises the card as being present, so whats the problem?
[14:49] <pc-illiterate> wow. you cant understand that ? i dont type. didnt know you needed specifics
[14:49] <x0x> rusians
[14:49] <ertun78> but what means "icmp_seq=20 which  streaming on the screen LSG
[14:50]  * user1 waits
[14:50] <Jafet> pc-illiterate: Real easy... just sudo in a blash terminal...... enter blah blah....... do blahblah... gedit halb/blah.... done. Any newb can do it.
[14:50] <bazhang> pc-illiterate: my telepathic powers are currently out of flux; let me try again..no sorry need actual info
[14:51] <pc-illiterate> im logged into terminal as root. i ran the installer and it says it cant find that installer
[14:51] <Jafet> Eelis, try a mirror...?
[14:51] <fedy> j/  #linuxac
[14:51]  * jack_spratt pokes bazhang
[14:51] <jack_spratt> (gently)
[14:51]  * pc-illiterate rolls eyes and shakes head
[14:52] <pc-illiterate> youre wrong
[14:52] <Jafet> pc-illiterate, as Paul Dirac would say, that was a statement.
[14:52] <pc-illiterate> im a noob and i cant do that
[14:52] <stringssing> actually, I'm still in the research mode.  I've read some stuff regarding Amarok...just wondering if anyone else has had success with this in any way.  Microsoft, of course, in their continued attempt to assimilate us all, doesn't even make a Mac version of their software, so you can image how we are left completely to our own devices to make this work on anything but Vista.
[14:52] <Wyvern|> could someone advice me on how to set up sendmail properly, so that mdadm can send me mail when a drive fails?
[14:52] <Ehlyah> okay, still not connecting to  my wireless. iwconfig now says I have an access point (improvement!) but I have invalid nwid, crypt and frag. any tips/fixes/links?
[14:52] <Exploit_> hi there
[14:52] <Exploit_> can someone help me with an unix command?
[14:52] <wowbaggertip> (@ pc-illiterate)  Exactly what is it that you're trying to do again?  From the start, small words.  I'm slow.  Or are you pulling our chains?
[14:53] <sipior> Exploit_: which one?
[14:53] <Dr_willis> Exploit_,  only if you ask an answerable question. :)
[14:53] <Exploit_> I want to change the password as root of a a user
[14:53] <pc-illiterate> no im not pulling chains... hang on. type really slow
[14:53] <Lamego> Wyvern|, sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[14:53] <Dr_willis> Exploit_,  sudo passwd username
[14:53] <bazhang> jack_spratt: it has been some time since I used ndiswrapper; I generally find it to be unreliable and a last resort, frankly; what I can remember is you need to modprobe to get it to say device present driver loaded or some such, then ifup the device and connect--this is what I have done in the past and it has generally worked
[14:53] <Exploit_> okay thank you
[14:53] <Exploit_> goodbye
[14:53] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:53] <jimcooncat> that was easy
[14:53] <LSG> ertun78: Means the ICMP is reserved, i guess
[14:53] <jack_spratt> bazhang: ok, thats useful thanks
[14:54] <ertun78> ok
[14:55] <jack_spratt> bazhang: i just got this wireless card, and it was supposed to work nativelhy ( it too hate using ndiswrapper). however there are currently 8 revisions of this card and the manufacturer lied about that version it was. unfortunatly its almost impossible it seems to tell what chips are in a wireless card and therefore whether it has anhy hope of working in linux
[14:55] <Jafet> Okay, for the third and last time, I do   $ whereis "python2.4"   in the shell and whereis looks for "python2", not "python2.4". Is this a feature?
[14:55] <jack_spratt> bazhang: i think one problem may be that it isnt modprobing correctly, when i do the modprobe ndiswrapper command it just hangs indefinitely
[14:55] <jack_spratt> bazhang: not a good sign eh
[14:55] <hischild> Jafet, probably because . is a special character. Have you tried escaping it?
[14:56] <Dr_willis> pc-illiterate,  when you EXPORT a variable like whatever=foo, then do 'sudo' i am not sure if the exported variable gets set for the sudo'ed commands or not.
[14:56] <pc-illiterate> i mounted my cdrom....i entered root terminal to export setup-cdrom=/media/cdrom then i typed sh tacticalops-3.1.5-install-x86.run   ........ i get this for an answer    " sh: cant open tacticalops-3.1.5-install-x86.run
[14:56] <jack_spratt> bazhang: ill lsmod to see if it is inserted correctly
[14:56] <bazhang> jack_spratt: that is a common thread with some of the wireless card makers; listing it as one chipset when in fact it is another; that is why knowing the exact chipset is so key
[14:56] <Ehlyah> bazhang: what if you try to ifup and you get "can't read interfaces file "etc/network/interfaces"?
[14:56] <sivel27> any one figure out how to make usb headphones work with a laptop?
[14:56] <hischild> Dr_willis, iirc the var stays set, unless you env-update it
[14:56] <ertun78> and last question why cant connect my website via telnet .i open it and write my site adress and just say me "tryîng to connect "and later disconnected  telnet
[14:56] <LSG> ertun78: Sorry, i didn't read your question properly. It's just the way ping pokes the target.
[14:56] <Dr_willis> hischild,  i always seem to see my PATH and other stuff gettting messed up when i sudo,  just thinking that may be his issue.
[14:57] <hischild> Dr_willis, it might, though i remember reading somewhere it wouldn't. Might be mistaken.
[14:57] <Dr_willis> hischild,  may be hes not exporting the variable also.. just settin git.
[14:57] <ertun78> :)
[14:57] <bazhang> Ehlyah: what is the wireless card chipset?
[14:57] <Jafet> hischild, right, my mistake, apparently whereis thinks it's an extension and strips it and there is no way to disable that.
[14:58] <user1> Dr_willis:  can you give me the link to download the sone 'miss india...' in http://mag4you.com/music/d/dhamaal.asp   . i cant click it
[14:58] <hischild> Jafet, whereis python
[14:58] <hischild> Jafet, whereis python\.4 works fine over here
[14:58] <bazhang> user1: this is not that kind of channel thanks
[14:58] <user1> bazhang:       can you help me witht the tv card then?
[14:58] <Heaven4U> Hello I need some help. I am a new Linux user and I have just installed Ubuntu. What is my root password?
[14:58] <wowbaggertip> (@ pc-illiterate) Well, you wrote what I asked, but even after 1.5y of Ubuntu, that's got me flummoxed.  Installing something from a CD?  Why not from a .deb or ???
[14:58] <stringssing> I can tell you now from experience, if you have a Broadcom chipset, you will have to use NDISwrapper with the Windows driver, as Broadcom does not have a native Linux driver
[14:59] <hischild> !sudo | Heaven4U
[14:59] <ubotu> Heaven4U: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[14:59] <bazhang> Heaven4U: there is none; just use sudo
[14:59] <jack_spratt> bazhang: but i know what chipset it is effectively, and i definitely have the correct .inf file installed, and ndiswrapper even recogninsed the presence of the device. BTW lsmod lists ndiswrapper as being loaded
[14:59] <pc-illiterate> cause its ported game ?
[14:59] <stringssing> However, Atheros does
[14:59] <Jafet> hischild, not here...
[14:59] <wowbaggertip> pc-illiterate:  OK.  I'm out.  Not a gamer.  Sorry.
[14:59] <Ehlyah> bazhang: 00:1e.0 is that possible?
[14:59] <fedy> hotkeys to change language from keyboard
[15:00] <bazhang> Ehlyah: that sounds right; is there a name with that as well?
[15:00] <prodigel> Hi. I want to monitor my internet connection download speed by downloading some data for a period of time, not a fixed size package. Anyone knows such tools? Not very related to ubuntu I realise now. Anyway I'm using ubuntu :D
[15:00] <Ehlyah> bazhang: PCI bridge: intel corporation 82801 PCI bridge
[15:00] <Oprtz> guys / girls : i am using vesa driver for my Intel vga card, how to use Intel instead of vesa?
[15:00] <fedy> like alt shift in windows
[15:01] <hischild> prodigel, system monitor .... system -> adminstration -> system monitor. Look under the tab resources.
[15:01] <user1> my system grub shows no moniter display for a part of boot period. just 'sync out of rang' how to do with that?
[15:01] <hischild> it even shows you the current total speed =)
[15:01] <bazhang> Ehlyah: could you pastebin the output of lspci please?
[15:01] <Ehlyah> bazhang: at the risk of sounding stupid. pastebin?
[15:02] <prodigel> hischild: sure that's good enough for watching, but I want to test it overnight
[15:02] <bazhang> !pastebin | Ehlyah
[15:02] <ubotu> Ehlyah: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[15:02] <hischild> prodigel, it keeps the totals over night.
[15:02] <jack_spratt> gah! this mad! there's nothing wrong with my card or my driver or with ndiswrapper as far as i can see so what on earth is wrong with ubuntu such that it cant do any wireless networking?!
[15:02] <Ehlyah> thanks
[15:03] <user1> my system grub shows no moniter display for a part of boot period. just 'sync out of rang' how to do with that?
[15:03] <fd12> i'm getting an internal ip and have connectivity to the internet but i don't have an external ip. why?
[15:03] <sudobash> thank you operators...
[15:03] <prodigel> jack_spratt: what's your problem more exactly?
[15:04] <bazhang> prodigel: he cant get ndiswrapper to work
[15:04] <unop_> fd12, your router translates private address to public ones
[15:04] <fd12> unop_, ok how can i have an external ip?
[15:04] <unop_> fd12, navigate to www.whatismyip.com and you'll see your public address
[15:04] <Pici> !traffic
[15:04] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[15:04] <fd12> unop_, that's the router's address
[15:05] <unop_> fd12, right
[15:05] <jack_spratt> prodigel: pcmcia wireless card: worksl; corresponding windows driver: installed and works; ndiswrapper + gui: installed and (apparantly) works; ubuntu: doiesn not detect any wireless card, wont connect be, wont do anything
[15:05] <unop_> fd12, what do you mean by 'external address' then if it isnt the router's address?
[15:05] <hischild> LjL, is on the unban track
[15:05] <thesaint4444> hi guys, can anyone tell me how to setup filetype associations on my desktop.. for some reason I can no longer open pdf documents - if I click one kate trys to open them.... thanks.
[15:05] <prodigel> jack_spratt: have you tried iwlist?
[15:05] <jack_spratt> prodgiel: no
[15:05] <prodigel> iwlist interface scan
[15:06] <thesaint4444> sorry - using kde...
[15:06] <pc-illiterate> so i assume i need to go elsewhere for help ?
[15:06] <prodigel> jack_spratt: from console.
[15:06] <jack_spratt> prodgiel: "interface doesnt sjupport scanning"
[15:06] <sudobash> does anyone know how to get IEC958 support for flash in firefox? maybe Ubuntu 8.XX fixes this?
[15:06] <_Andrew> thesaint4444, Right click the pdf -> open with -> add -> "Document Viewer"
[15:06] <prodigel> jack_spratt: then it seems you have a driver problem
[15:06] <Ehlyah> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62824/
[15:06] <unop__> thesaint4444, not sure about kde .. but there there should be a way to reset associations .. right click a pdf, check the properties
[15:06] <lewench> Having an issue with my newly installed ubuntu on my Inspiron E1705. I get an IP address from my network card. I can ping and accually connected to my PC at home through VNC. But when browsing the net it takes about a minute to load any page. I also cannot get updates on my add/remove packages. Anyone know what might be wrong??
[15:06] <fiXXXerMet> I want to mount a windows share to my local machine.  The share has a space in it, and the password has a & symbol...  What's the right syntax for the command?  mount -t smbfs -o "username=user,password=password&" //server/Shared Data /media/tvifs01 ?
[15:06] <bazhang> Ehlyah: thanks looking now
[15:07] <jack_spratt> prodgiel: FYI lspci says the card (which is bellkin) is not recognised and calls it an ethernet controller
[15:07] <jack_spratt> prodgiel: but ndiswrapper -l says driver is installled and device is present !!
[15:07] <drhawk> hi
[15:07] <thesaint4444> unop__: yeah did that but doesn't seem to make any difference....
[15:07] <Juanqui> Quick question guys
[15:07] <prodigel> jack_spratt: what chipset do you have?
[15:07] <drhawk> how can i get my system to use utc instead of the local-time?
[15:08] <Juanqui> Is it possible to reinstall an installation of ubuntu (7.10) and leave the home folder files untouched?
[15:08] <unop__> thesaint4444, there aren't many KDE users in here, you probably will have better luck if you asked the guys in #kubuntu
[15:08] <drhawk> i already set utc=yes in /etc/default/rcS
[15:08] <bazhang> Ehlyah: could you pastebin all of lspci and not that one bit please? you can install pastebinit then cat lspci | pastebinit and it will give you a url to post here thanks
[15:08] <prodigel> drhawk: right click clock applet, preferences, use utc
[15:08] <sudobash> Juanqui... I think so yes....
[15:08] <Juanqui> Would it work if during the installation I choose to do custom partitioning and then deselect "FORMAT" ?
[15:08] <unop__> drhawk, what does this command give you?  TZ=UTC date
[15:08] <Juanqui> Because the thing is that I dont want it to leave shared librarie sbehind
[15:08] <Juanqui> or binaries behind
[15:08] <jack_spratt> prodgiel: its a belkin f5d7010 v7
[15:09] <Juanqui> I want a fully clean system
[15:09] <lewench> Having an issue with my newly installed ubuntu on my Inspiron E1705. I get an IP address from my network card. I can ping and accually connected to my PC at home through VNC. But when browsing the net it takes about a minute to load any page. I also cannot get updates on my add/remove packages. Anyone know what might be wrong??
[15:09] <thesaint4444> unop__: ok, thanks...
[15:09] <sudobash> Jueanqui correct do not format... i think at the beginning it looks for files to carry over
[15:09] <bazhang> lewench: this is gutsy?
[15:09] <drhawk> my hwclock is already set to locale time. i want the whole system to use this time
[15:09] <Juanqui> yes
[15:09] <lewench> bazhang, Yes.
[15:09] <drhawk> not just the clock-applet
[15:09] <jack_spratt> prodgiel: i think Realtek 8185 chipset
[15:09] <fiXXXerMet> Anyone?  What's the syntax for mounting a windows share that has a space in it?
[15:09] <user1> my system grub shows no moniter display for a part of boot period. just 'sync out of rang' how to do with that?
[15:09] <hischild> Juanqui, yes that's possible. Do not format your /home then, and select it as your new /home. That will let you keep your current files and settings. Then create the new user with the old user data and you're done.
[15:09] <unop__> drhawk, the hwclock should use UTC and you should configure your timezone .. not the otherway around
[15:09] <bazhang> lewench: you all the repos enabled?
[15:10] <prodigel> jack_spratt: did you do some googling about your chipset? I'm limited in expertize, especially with modules and stuff
[15:10] <drhawk> then i have to change the windows-behavior, right?
[15:10] <lewench> bazhang, huh? I can't get updates it won't go through. take a minute to load a page. But everything else network wise is ok
[15:10] <salko> Desktop effects could not be enabled any help
[15:11] <jack_spratt> prodgiel: it works perfectly with the same drivers on other distros, just install the .inf etc. viaa gui normall and away you go
[15:11] <bazhang> lewench: you are connected on that box now? could you pastebin your sources.list please?
[15:11] <jack_spratt> prodgiel: i bought it for its linux compatibility
[15:11] <wers> I cant play any music because of a gstramer error. apparently, state change failed. how do I fix that?
[15:11] <unop__> drhawk, windows does crazy things with time and setting the hwclock . there's a way you can get both to cooperate on this
[15:11] <lewench>  bazhang, How do I go about doing that?
[15:12] <bazhang> salko: you need the 3d drivers for your card via the restricted drivers manager and install ccsm; more info /msg ubotu ccsm
[15:12] <salko> indugun u helped me several times
[15:12] <salko> Desktop effects could not be enabled any help
[15:12] <IndyGunFreak> salko: whats your video device?
[15:12] <hischild> unop__, not using utc will make the time correct for both OS's iirc
[15:12] <ikonia> salko: need more info than that
[15:12] <bazhang> lewench: install pastebinit sudo apt-get install pastebinit then cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[15:12] <salko> dont know
[15:12] <benpicco_> salko: do you have direct rendering enabled? which gpu are you using?
[15:13] <IndyGunFreak> salko: well, thats a start.. run lspci in a terminal and see what your video device is
[15:13] <sudobash> anyone know of a IEC958 fix so Firefox flash media can play through SPDIF?
[15:13] <unop__> drhawk, http://weblogs.asp.net/dfindley/archive/2006/06/20/Set-hardware-clock-to-UTC-on-Windows-_2800_or-how-to-make-the-clock-work-on-a-Mac-Book-Pro_2900_.aspx
[15:13] <benpicco_> salko: lspci | grep VGA
[15:13] <salko> ok
[15:13] <benpicco_> salko: so you don't have installed any driver yet, did you?
[15:14] <IndyGunFreak> benpicco: he probably has either ATI, or Intel graphics, as Nvidia works out fo the box.
[15:14] <bazhang> probably ati
[15:14] <hischild> IndyGunFreak, you also need the restricted ones for the newer nvidia ones
[15:14] <user1> iam using tv card Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast De                              coder (rev 01) . i cant make it work. any help?
[15:14] <drhawk> ok thx. i will try this
[15:14] <IndyGunFreak> hischild: well, tru..
[15:14] <salko> nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64
[15:14] <kkaefer> hi
[15:15] <benpicco_> salko: wow, what's acient!
[15:15] <IndyGunFreak> salko: go to system/admin/restricted driver.
[15:15] <unop__> drhawk, or you could make ubuntu do the work (which might be better as some windows apps are problematic if you change windows to UTC) - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[15:15] <IndyGunFreak> benpicco: lol, i know.
[15:15] <kkaefer> is it possible to allow certain commands that usually require root permissions to be executed by regular users without entering a password?
[15:15] <salko> yes it is
[15:15] <salko> hahah
[15:15] <kkaefer> sorry
[15:15] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport check here user1
[15:15] <kkaefer> let me rephrase
[15:15] <wers> I hear no sound because of a gstreamer error
[15:15] <wers> how do  I restart gstreamer?
[15:15] <user1> bazhang:  that dont have phillips in it
[15:15] <user1> i gues
[15:15] <kkaefer> how can I allow certain commands that usually require root permissions to be executed by regular users without entering a password?
[15:15] <benpicco_> salko: you serioulsy want to use compiz on it? I requieres at least a geforce 2
[15:15] <Ehlyah> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62825/ the whole thing
[15:16] <bazhang> thanks Ehlyah
[15:16] <lewench>  bazhang, coudn't find package pasteinit
[15:16] <Ehlyah> no, thank you
[15:16] <drhawk> hm. this does only work when i have access to a time server
[15:16] <salko> u thinl i cant do it
[15:16] <Ehlyah> no, thank you
[15:16] <lewench>  bazhang, pastebinit**
[15:16] <hischild> lewench, package is called pastebinit, not pasteinit
[15:16] <unop__> kkaefer, you can edit the /etc/sudoers file -- see the sudoers manpage for more
[15:16] <lewench>  bazhang, correct I typed it wrong, but typed it correctly in the terminal
[15:16] <salko> the driver is in use
[15:16] <jack_spratt> prodgiel: sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper hangs also, why is this? whats so hard about removing it from the kernel?
[15:17] <sudobash> does anyone know how to configure firefox audio device?
[15:17] <IndyGunFreak> salko: thats an awful old card to try and use desktop effects, you should probably be grateful they aren't working
[15:17] <unop__> drhawk, see the "Multiple Boot Systems Time Conflicts" section at the bottom on changing the /etc/defaults/rcS file
[15:17] <sudobash> like which device flash uses
[15:17] <jack_spratt> prodgiel: does this mean that  ndiswrapper is corrupted or something; the fact that it cannot be added or removed from the kerenl
[15:17] <bazhang> Ehlyah: this is an internal card or a usb one? if usb then try lsusb and report the one line for that please
[15:17] <lewench>  bazhang, Its odd, it doesn't want to download anything, but everything works fine. Im talking to you from my PC at home vnc'd though this laptop.
[15:18] <Ehlyah> bazhang: not a usb card
[15:18] <salko> i cant fix it
[15:18] <salko> or
[15:18] <bazhang> Ehlyah: what does ifconfig show? two entries or three eth0 lo only or a third as well
[15:19] <bazhang> lewench: how about cat /etc/apt/sources.list and see if there are a bunch of hashmarks in front of the various repos
[15:19] <Ehlyah> bazhang: eth0, lo and wlan0
[15:19] <Mozze> Any tips for making something fun out of youre desktop?
[15:19] <drhawk> can't find that section. sorry. i'm using kubuntu
[15:19] <reduser11> anyone here familiar with dibbler-server?
[15:19] <benpicco_> Mozze: xsnow is nice, but it's the wron season
[15:19] <salko> any help
[15:19] <reduser11> ipv6 dhcp server
[15:19] <bazhang> Ehlyah: okay that is good; do you have a wifi hotspot nearby? preferably open
[15:20] <prodigel> jack_spratt: was it recognized by the ssystem somehow?
[15:20] <lewench> Having an issue with my newly installed ubuntu on my Inspiron E1705. I get an IP address from my network card. I can ping and accually connected to my PC at home through VNC. But when browsing the net it takes about a minute to load any page. I also cannot get updates on my add/remove packages. Anyone know what might be wrong??
[15:20] <benpicco_> salko: compiz requires a GeForce 2 to work
[15:20] <Ehlyah> all I've got is our wireless, WEP encrypted
[15:20] <Mozze> benpico, crap ;)
[15:20] <lewench> err sorry meant to copy and paste.
[15:20] <bazhang> haha
[15:20] <prodigel> jack_spratt: before installing the driver with ndiswrapper
[15:20] <salko> ooooooo
[15:20] <salko> and now
[15:20] <benpicco_> Mozze: it craetessoo nice xmas feeling ;)
[15:20] <sipior> lewench: you using a local dns server?
[15:21] <lewench> bazhang, Yes there are # line commented out by installer because it failed to verify
[15:21] <Ehlyah> bazhang: just our WEP encrypted wireless
[15:21] <lewench> sipior, Yes
[15:21] <salko> can i give a try
[15:21] <jack_spratt> prodgiel: you mean was the card recognised at all before the diswrapper install? if thats what you mean, i dont know
[15:21] <bazhang> Ehlyah: you know the cli pretty well? I can give the definitive link on how to connect via cli with that guide; first try sudo dhclient wlan0 and report any errors please
[15:21] <jack_spratt> prodgiel: i didnt check, i didnt see a need to (it was plugged in during the whole install
[15:21] <Ehlyah> bazhang: cli?
[15:22] <benpicco_> salko: It's about hardware functions - you can emulate it by the cpu using xgl, but emulating gpu funktions is not that a good idea in respects of performance...
[15:22] <sipior> lewench: probably a name resolution problem. try using "dig" with various FQDNs and see if it takes a while to get an answer back
[15:22] <bazhang> lewench: most of them? just the backports? how many roughly
[15:22] <benpicco_> salko: which cpu are you using?
[15:22] <bazhang> Ehlyah: command line (terminal)
[15:22] <lewench> bazhang, All of them accually
[15:22] <Ehlyah> bazhang: beginner, I'm afraid
[15:22] <benpicco_> salko: (cat /proc/cpuinfo)
[15:23] <prodigel> jack_spratt: you have to blacklist some modules in kernel before applying ndiswrapper drivers
[15:23] <prodigel> jack_spratt: this way the module won't load a badly detected driver for it thus conficting with yours
[15:23] <bazhang> lewench: then you need to uncomment (remove the hashmarks) from the key ones; /msg ubotu gutsysources for which ones to uncomment
[15:23] <prodigel> jack_spratt: may be the cause of you badly named interface
[15:23] <salko> and now
[15:23] <tenpaiyomi> Ok, so, I created a new user and am attempting to ssh in.  I've set the password, however attempts to log in give me a 'error: PAM: Authentication failure for illegal user voiddesign' in the auth.log
[15:24] <tenpaiyomi> Anybody have an idea?
[15:24] <bazhang> Ehlyah: what did the sudo dhclient wlan0 report (from the terminal)
[15:24] <amenado> tenpaiyomi-> what is the new user name you have added?
[15:24] <tenpaiyomi> amenado: voiddesign
[15:24] <Ehlyah> bazhang: pastebinning it
[15:25] <reduser11> hey all - is anyone familiar with the following error and how to deal with it -  Unable to set up socket option IPV6_PKTINFO - I am trying to run the dibbler-server (dhcp for IPv6)
[15:25] <sipior> tenpaiyomi: how did you add the user?
[15:25] <salko> AMD Athlon(tm) XP  2600+
[15:25] <jack_spratt> prodgiel: why do you think that? i dont know of a conflicting driver, and on other distros i didnt have to blackliist; also on gides for this card andubunttu there is no menttion of blackllisting...
[15:25] <tenpaiyomi> sipior: useradd -s /bin/shell -d /home/voiddesign -m voiddesign
[15:25] <tenpaiyomi> sipior: then I did a passwd voiddesign and set it's password
[15:26] <sipior> tenpaiyomi: /bin/shell? that doesn't sound right...
[15:26] <Hoxzer> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-594623.html I think that festival should have a depency of minimal english voice. Just confuses users
[15:26] <amenado> tenpaiyomi-> did you have this new user logon to say console 3? ctrl+alt+F3
[15:26] <prodigel> jack_spratt: In my experience with wireless ndiswrapper and ubuntu I had to blacklist some modules
[15:26] <lewench> bazhang, http://forgott3n.serveftp.net/http%20uploads/sources_list.txt
[15:26] <Ehlyah> bazhang: report of the sudo dhclient wlan0 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62827/
[15:26] <tenpaiyomi> sipior: /bin/bash then?
[15:26] <bazhang> Ehlyah: any way to open that wep to no encryption while we test this out? that would be a good test right now
[15:26] <sipior> tenpaiyomi: yep
[15:26] <tenpaiyomi> sipior: This is all remote.  This is a VPS
[15:26] <prodigel> jack_spratt: mine has a rt61 chipset
[15:26] <tenpaiyomi> sipior: Lemme try that
[15:26] <salko> what to do now
[15:26] <benpicco_> salko: and you have a Riva TNT inside? well, you might try it, there should be an article about the xgl-server
[15:27] <benpicco_> !xgl
[15:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[15:27] <jack_spratt> prodgiel:, what would i blacklist?
[15:27] <Ehlyah> bazhang: I probably could, but not sure how (it's a setup that also carries our digital tv) and I'd get in trouble for it
[15:27] <salko> ive inserted today a card cuz the one onboard desnt detect linux
[15:28] <tenpaiyomi> sipior: That was it.  It's been awhile since I've done anything heavily linux, cause I've gotten lazy with OS X :(
[15:28] <amenado> tenpaiyomi-> even it it is remote, login with the userid you used to su to root, then su - voiddesign
[15:28] <bazhang> Ehlyah: have you used nm-applet (the gui in the toolbar/panel) to connect before? you can set the wep pass there and try to connect via the gui also; your system sees your card, we just need to get you connected and you will be good to go
[15:28] <tenpaiyomi> amenado: It was the me having stupidly set it to /bin/shell instead of /bin/bash
[15:29] <drhawk> unop__, i don't unterstand why (k)ubuntu assumes the hw-clock is set to utc when is set the utc-option in rcS to no. in man rcS it says when utc is set to no the hw-clock is the localtime
[15:29] <amenado> tenpaiyomi-> okay, go ahead and correct it
[15:29] <bazhang> lewench: you have no sources; that would be the reason that add/remove is greyed out; open up the sources list with an editor and remove the hashes and then sudo apt-get update and try again
[15:29] <salko> qnd is nforce ok
[15:29] <sipior> amenado: try to keep up...
[15:29] <IndyGunFreak> salko: why do you have a video card taht ancient, in a PC that new?
[15:30] <lewench> bazhang, ok thanks.
[15:30] <salko> cuz i couldnt install ubuntu
[15:30] <stephantom> hey there, does anyone have a clue why Canonical itself does not use Open Source software for their business files?
[15:30] <bazhang> lewench: nano is a good one; unless you have another you like sudo nano etc etc
[15:30] <unop__> drhawk, what is your actual timezone?
[15:30] <amenado> sipior-> i try to read only stuff highlighted, if he responded to you without my nick, i can easily miss it
[15:30] <stephantom> I don't mind personally, I just think it's kind of strange
[15:30] <salko> the card couldnt be seen while installing
[15:30] <Ehlyah> bazhang: network monitor?  I've poked at it, but it wouldn't detect my network. I just removed and readded it, though and it seems to detect it now
[15:30] <drhawk> in ubuntu berlin
[15:30] <drhawk> and in windows to
[15:30] <bazhang> stephantom: offtopic here thanks
[15:30] <drhawk> too
[15:30] <IndyGunFreak> i don't follow
[15:30] <rance> can someone point me to a "hyperterm - like" gui tool in linux that you can select the serial port and the data rate for multiple connections?
[15:30] <stephantom> sorry bazhang
[15:31] <drhawk> berlin is currently utc +2h
[15:31] <prashanth> hi
[15:31] <Ehlyah> bazhang: nm claims there's an error and when I click Configure, I get "interface does not exist"
[15:31] <benpicco_> salko: have you installed the driver at all? what tells you glxinfo | grep direct?
[15:32] <drhawk> and in ubtuntu it takes the hwclock (whick is set to the correct local time) and adds the time-offset of 2hours
[15:32] <sipior> rance: i think minicom will do what you want
[15:32] <bazhang> Ehlyah: ah then to the cli it is we must go ;]
[15:32] <drhawk> no matter if i set utc to yes or no
[15:32] <Ehlyah> bazhang: allrighty
[15:32] <lewench> bazhang, is there a reason why this happend on install? Maybe I didn't have internet connection?
[15:32] <jack_spratt> sheesh, this is nuts. im going to have to abnandonn ubuntu for a while until i have a day or two free ton sort out this networking, which should take about three minutes. thanks for help bazhang and prodigel
[15:32] <wigren> what setting do i use to make the active title bar opaque with compiz-fusion
[15:32] <salko> that command says direct rendering: Yes
[15:34] <benpicco_> salko: so everything seems to work
[15:34] <benpicco_> salko: but if you want compiz on that hardware, you'll ahve to use xgl
[15:34] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 Ehlyah look at the very beginning of this link (under WEP) and where it says (interface) you put wlan0; report any errors as you go through the commands thanks
[15:34] <salko> but if i put the monitor cable an message appears input not detcted
[15:34] <bazhang> lewench: aye that would be the reason
[15:34] <lewench> bazhang, Getting them thanks a bunch!!
[15:35] <sipior> rance: actually, i missed your mentioning that you want a gui tool. in that case, cutecom is a better bet. (minicom is pretty nice though)
[15:35] <salko> how can i use xgl what to do
[15:35] <benpicco_> !xgl | salko
[15:35] <ubotu> salko: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[15:35] <bazhang> jack_spratt dont give up so easy; it took me two weeks to get ndiswrapper going in Suse 10.0; and this was without irc
[15:36] <wigren> what setting do i use to make the active title bar opaque with compiz-fusion
[15:36] <crdlb> wigren: are you using emerald?
[15:36] <wigren> no
[15:36] <crdlb> wigren: then gconf-editor /apps/gwd
[15:37] <salko> what should i type to enable xgl
[15:38] <geirha> salko: sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl
[15:38] <Ehlyah> bazhang: sudo dhclient -r wlan0 gives me: there is already a pid file, killed old client processm removed PID file
[15:38] <salko> thx
[15:39] <mark__> i have just installed ubuntu 8.04 worked fine at first but now that i have done all the updates it wont boot. Whre do I start to fix this?
[15:39] <geirha> !hardy | mark__
[15:39] <ubotu> mark__: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:39] <jchase> mark_: what kind of video card ?
[15:39] <mark__> nvidia
[15:39] <salko> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:39] <salko> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:39] <wigren> crdlb: thank you!
[15:39] <salko> ive recived this
[15:39] <Lamego> !aptlock
[15:39] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:39] <jchase> mark_: after isntall, did you enable restricted driver oro anything?
[15:40] <Darkside> hi, i have a .img file that i dd'd from an old hdd, how would i go about analysing it, seeing what partitions are there?
[15:40] <mark__> i did that before updating
[15:40] <geirha> salko: do you have any package programs open? like update-manager or synaptic?
[15:40] <salko> yes
[15:40] <MrBill> When I plug in my 8gb USB memory stick (NTFS) it autorecognizes and mounts itself, but I'm seeming to not get the same behaviour off of an NTFS formatted USB hard drive, is this normal?
[15:40] <Lamego> Darkside, you should be able to loopback mount it
[15:40] <geirha> salko: close it first, only one such program can function at a time, they lock each other out
[15:40] <sriramoman> how do i install kernel-sources in ubuntu?
[15:40] <salko> thx
[15:40] <Lamego> i mean, if it was from a partition, not a disk
[15:40] <MrBill> i'm using 7.10 Gutsy if that matters
[15:40] <Darkside> Lamego, but will i be able to check partitions, etc?
[15:41] <Darkside> ah
[15:41] <jchase> mark_: so when you boot, does it allow you to pass a parameter, or does it come to a cli prompt?
[15:41] <Darkside> yeah, its an image of a while disk
[15:41] <Darkside> whole*
[15:41] <mark__> i just got the message Loding Hardware Drivers       FAIL
[15:41] <Lamego> Darkside, well, that is more tricky
[15:42] <unop_> drhawk, what do these two commands return?  TZ="Europe/Berlin" date; TZ="UTC" date
[15:42] <Lamego> you would need to get the partition table, and dump the partitions into image files so that you could loopback mount them
[15:42] <salko> what now
[15:42] <Darkside> Lamego: how would i go about doing that?
[15:42] <benpicco_> salko: you'll need to logout and select the session xgl
[15:42] <mark__> how do i pass aparamiter?
[15:43] <ragsagar> so many members :o
[15:43] <salko> how should i select xgl
[15:43] <geirha> salko: log out to the login-screen. At the login-screen hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (this will restart it)
[15:43] <IndyGunFreak> salko:  you hit sessions and select xgl
[15:43] <salko> ill try
[15:43] <salko> thx
[15:43] <geirha> salko: if the xserver-xgl package is installed, it will be used instead of xorg
[15:44] <sriramoman> how do i install kernel-sources in ubuntu?
[15:44] <bazhang> Ehlyah: that is okay; just keep going with the commands
[15:44] <IndyGunFreak> geirha: is that right?.. i thougth you had to choose xgl
[15:44] <Lamego> Darkside, I am not aware of specific tools for that, you can manually look into the part table description and then just read from the part offset, it is a non trivial procedure, you will need to read a lot :P
[15:44] <bazhang> sriramoman: either via the terminal or synaptic package manager
[15:45] <geirha> IndyGunFreak: iirc that's how it works in gutsy, though older releases were different ... I did forget to ask which release he was running though
[15:45] <IndyGunFreak> ya
[15:45] <mark__> jchase how do i pass a paramiter?
[15:45] <Ehlyah> bazhang: I just finished. pastebin the results?
[15:46] <bazhang> Ehlyah: any other errors?
[15:46] <sipior> sriramoman: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[15:46] <salko> qn error ;essqge qppeqred
[15:46] <sriramoman> thanx
[15:46] <jchase> mark_: when it boots up, can you get to recovery in grub?
[15:46] <salko> an error messqge appered
[15:46] <jchase> mark_: this is hardy you said?
[15:46] <Ehlyah> bazhang: another "there is already a pid file" but that's it
[15:46] <mark__> yes its hardy
[15:47] <geirha> salko: at what point, and what did it say?
[15:47] <salko> and my keybord chqnged
[15:47] <bazhang> !hardy
[15:47] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:47] <bazhang> mark__: see above
[15:47] <delfick> hello. when I make a pdf file in ubuntu, It can't be opened in windows XP (works fine in ubuntu), does anyone know what could cause this?
[15:47] <mark__> ah ok tnx
[15:47] <salko> ill chek again
[15:48] <bazhang> Ehlyah: you put your wifi hotspot name as essid in quotes like this: "hotspot1" ?
[15:48] <sipior> delfick: does it fail with an error?
[15:48] <Ehlyah> bazhang: yes
[15:49] <sipior> delfick: also, how are you constructing the pdf file in ubuntu?
[15:49] <bazhang> and the ascii wep pass was like this s: asciipasshere Ehlyah?
[15:49] <Ehlyah> bazhang: yes
[15:49] <delfick> sipior: "Adobe Reader could not open "test.pdf" because it is either not supported file type or because the file has been damaged (for example, it was sent as an email attachment and wasn't correctly decoded)."
[15:49] <bazhang> Ehlyah: so any dhcpoffers?
[15:49] <Ehlyah> bazhang: well, no space between the two. does that matter?
[15:50] <Ehlyah> bazhang: no offers
[15:50] <sipior> delfick: how did you move the pdf file to the windows machine?
[15:51] <delfick> sipior: over the local network
[15:51] <salko> the greeter aplication appears to be crashing. attempt to use a different one
[15:51] <delfick> from my computer to my laptop
[15:51] <salko> the greeter aplication appears to be crashing. attempt to use a different one THAT IS WRITTEN
[15:51] <sipior> delfick: how *precisely* did you transfer the file? via scp?
[15:52] <delfick> sftp
[15:52]  * delfick tries with usb drive
[15:52] <salko> q black box is appearing on desktop
[15:53]  * delfick gets same annoying error
[15:53] <bazhang> Ehlyah: did you use the sudo iwconfig wlan0 open command?
[15:54] <delfick> unless it's saving the file as postscript
[15:54] <bazhang> err key open Ehlyah
[15:54] <geirha> salko: can you open a terminal and run «ps -ef | grep -i xgl» ?
[15:54] <Ehlyah> bazhang: I didn't
[15:54] <MrBill> Should  "mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/disk" mount an external NTFS USB drive with read/write access?
[15:54] <delfick> how do I convert postscript to pdf? incase that be the problem?
[15:54] <WhozBob> I have a question.. when trying to copy stuff over to my psp (1.4gig of free mem left) with Ubuntu it keeps saying that i only have 89.9 mgs left wheni really have 1,4gig.. so i can't copy anything over cause it thinks i have less space when i reall y have more then enough.. Help!!
[15:54] <bazhang> Ehlyah: how about going through that again and trying it with that then
[15:55]  * delfick found ps2pdf
[15:55] <sipior> delfick: how do you construct the pdf file to begin with?
[15:55] <delfick> and it worked :)
[15:56] <delfick> thnx for help anyways
[15:56] <delfick> damit, stupid pidgin doesn't scroll with the text
[15:56] <JCDG> hello
[15:56] <salko> salko     6347  6296  0 16:50 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/xserver-xgl/Xgl-lockfile-wrapper :1 -accel xv:fbo -accel glx:pbuffer -nolisten tcp -fullscreen -br +xinerama
[15:56] <salko> salko     6351  6347  4 16:50 ?        00:00:14 Xgl :1 -accel xv:fbo -accel glx:pbuffer -nolisten tcp -fullscreen -br +xinerama
[15:56] <salko> salko     6702  6669  0 16:55 pts/0    00:00:00 grep -i xgl
[15:56] <JCDG> friends, i have some troubles using java
[15:56] <JCDG> use apstebin
[15:56] <delfick> sipior: with :hardcopy > /home/iambob/Desktop/test.pdf in gvim
[15:56] <JCDG> pastebin
[15:57] <fiesba> Oh, wow, gparted is giving a guess of 14 hours to move a 300GB partition over. ;\
[15:57] <ragsagar> bang
[15:57] <ragsagar> :D
[15:57] <IndyGunFreak> fiesba: 14hrs?
[15:57] <IndyGunFreak> that can't be right
[15:57] <sipior> delfick: yeah, that won't be a pdf :-)
[15:57] <benpicco_> fiesba: I had to experience that, too
[15:57] <ragsagar> sipior?
[15:57] <sipior> ragsagar: yes?
[15:57] <fiesba> benpicco: So it isn't a wrong figure, will actually take half a day?
[15:58] <IndyGunFreak> fiesba: thats crazy, it might be easier to back up, format and set the drive up how you want it, then reinstall.
[15:58] <salko> and noz
[15:58] <benpicco_> fiesba: unfortualy the time might be right
[15:58] <ragsagar> why there is no preoder for shipping ubuntu cds this time
[15:58] <Ehlyah> bazhang: did it with key open. still no dhcpoffers
[15:58] <IndyGunFreak> i've never waited more than 15-20min to resize a 250gig drive.
[15:58] <salko> and now
[15:58] <benpicco_> I moved 250GB, lasted 12h
[15:58] <fiesba> Oh lord, kind of needed everything to be finished so I could take a test from home. Should have just moved everything off of the disk and blanked the bloody thing.
[15:58] <JCDG> so, let me tell you, i try to open a java jnlp file wiht firefox 'cause it is a manager of device that uses it, so when i try to open it, firefox asks me, whsat should i do with the file, the default option is open, and the selected program is javaws, but it doesn't work
[15:59] <bazhang> Ehlyah: what does iwconfig show; does it show that device associated with your wifi hotspot?
[15:59] <IndyGunFreak> benpicco_: i think i see the difference, I didn't move anything, i just resize..
[15:59] <sipior> JCDG: how doesn't it work?
[15:59] <theneb> is there a single ubuntu distro server that has all the resources for a desktop? I say because I need to forward a port from that server to a netless computer
[15:59] <IndyGunFreak> fiesba: you can probably still do that.
[15:59] <fiesba> Was shrinking it by 5GB and moving it to the right, nuts.
[15:59] <theneb> over SSH
[15:59] <JCDG> it does't open the file
[15:59] <Ehlyah> bazhang: yes, it's got the correct ESSID
[15:59] <fiesba> IndyGunFreak: I'd be wary to cancel the operation.
[15:59] <sipior> JCDG: but no error is given?
[15:59] <IndyGunFreak> ya.
[15:59] <JCDG> sipior: nop, no error
[15:59] <salko> geirha what to do now
[15:59] <IndyGunFreak> 14hrs though, geez
[16:00] <JCDG> look, i try in a windows machine and it worked
[16:00] <PkDoR> €€€€€€ alu €€€€€€
[16:00] <JCDG> sipior: look, i try in a windows machine and it worked
[16:00] <fiesba> What's sad is I needed this box up and running in the next seven so I can do my Cisco academy assesments from home.
[16:00] <WhozBob> I have a question.. when trying to copy stuff over to my psp via USB(1.4gig of free mem left) with Ubuntu it keeps saying that i only have 89.9 mgs left when i really have 1,4gig.. so i can't copy anything over cause it thinks i have less space when i really have more then enough.. Help!!
[16:00] <bazhang> Ehlyah: well then just need to get the ascii pass right I would guess; tis a shame that networkmanager applet cannot work in this situation
[16:00] <ragsagar> sipior no reply??
[16:00] <PkDoR> €€€€€€ see ya €€€€€€
[16:00] <sipior> JCDG: you can try downloading the jnlp file directly, and then invoke javaws from a terminal
[16:01] <sipior> ragsagar: i have no idea what you are talking about
[16:01] <bazhang> pkdor please dont
[16:01] <fiesba> Normally wouldn't be a problem but I like using passwords I can't remember and I kept this particular one on an ecrypted plaintext file on the same volume. lol
[16:01] <JCDG> sipior: i go to synaptics and i check ifor the java installations, and
[16:01] <Ehlyah> bazhang: you think I have the wrong password?
[16:01] <JCDG> sipior: they are there
[16:01] <fiesba> Ah well, time to dig around and see if I kept it written down elsewhere.
[16:01] <bazhang> Ehlyah: that might be the case; try with the space this time
[16:02] <Ehlyah> bazhang: i did that earlier "s: password" and it gave me "invalid argument s:"
[16:02] <jack_newcity> hi
[16:02] <JCDG> sipior: i tray to open a mangement center for a cisco device, i thinhk it has to use the browser firefox in this case, cause i have to put a ip addres on the url
[16:02] <sipior> JCDG: you can download the jnlp file and save it to disk, then invoke javaws from the terminal, with the filename as an argument...
[16:02] <ragsagar> JCDG
[16:02] <amenado> fiesba-> that is your test for getting a certification, remember the password..hehe
[16:02] <JCDG> the ip addres of the on line device
[16:03] <fiesba> Lucky me, found it. (>^.^)>
[16:03] <bazhang> ragsagar: you have a ubuntu support question?
[16:03] <amenado> fiesba-> now you passed the 1st phase..
[16:03] <Alan-D> Does anybody have a procedure to install ubuntu server on a Dell server with a scsi drive?
[16:04] <amenado> Alan-D-> regular procedures does not work with scsi?
[16:04] <reduser11> is there some way of dealing with the following error - DEPENDENCY IS NOT SATISFIABLE - lib6c
[16:04] <bcnl> hello, I'm running the latest 8.0.4 beta and I can't run the restricted drivers installer
[16:04] <bcnl> jockey-gtk and jockey-kde both crash
[16:04] <bazhang> hardy channel bcnl please #ubuntu+1
[16:04] <bcnl> bazhang: thanks
[16:05] <Alan-D> amenado: Is there an alternate procedure?
[16:05] <amenado> reduser11-> perhaps if you use libc6 instead?
[16:05] <connor> ok i have a really strange problem here i am running ubuntu gusty and i just used envy to install ati drivers and when i reboot any sounds that i start wil just keep looping like a drum its damn annoying. Any ideas?
[16:05] <bazhang> reduser this is gutsy?
[16:05] <JCDG> sipior i tried what u told me and  there was a problem with  sysCreateListenerSocket
[16:05] <amenado> Alan-d i dont know of any, what happens when you try to install?
[16:05] <bazhang> connor envy. uh oh.
[16:05] <connor> what do you mean
[16:06] <bazhang> serious bad news
[16:06] <Alan-D> amenado: It can't see the scsi controler and drives
[16:06] <connor> bazhang: its not that bad is it its just god damn annoying
[16:06] <amenado> Alan-D-> are you booted up to the liveCD?
[16:06] <bazhang> connor envy is bad news.
[16:07] <connor> no ive used it plenty of times before
[16:07] <connor> why is it bad news
[16:07] <bazhang> !envy | connor
[16:07] <ubotu> connor: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[16:07] <Alan-D> amenado: No, we are using the alternate install cd
[16:07] <Pricey> connor, I don't think what you describe is a fault of envy.
[16:07] <connor> well it starts working when i remove the ati drivers all my sounds work fine again
[16:07] <amenado> Alan-D-> okay, can you sudo fdisk -l  and see what your system sees as hard disk?
[16:08] <JCDG> sipior are u there??
[16:08] <connor> and if i install the ati drivers from the site there is no looping sound but i cant get 3d support to work
[16:08] <sipior> JCDG: yes.
[16:08] <connor> so i had to use envy
[16:08] <bazhang> connor it is unsupported here
[16:08] <JCDG> did u read what i send u??
[16:08] <Alan-D> amenado: To do that I would have to load it on the live cd.
[16:09] <sipior> JCDG: i did. what were you expecting from me, precisely?
[16:09] <connor> ok crap err anything similar i could use
[16:09] <amenado> Alan-D-> when you boot from alternate cd, did you have any grub options you added like  priority=critical  ?
[16:09] <JCDG> look, to tell me if yu know what could be worng
[16:09] <dakira_temp> hey.. which filesystem would you use for /boot?
[16:10] <Alan-D> amenado: When it get to the installing the controler, I have the option of supplying one from a diskette
[16:10] <amenado> Alan-D  try this, add the option   priority=critical  and go through the menu to select the drives it detects on your system
[16:10] <bazhang> connor you may use what you wish; we tend to discourage the use of third party drivers here; the preferred method is the restricted drivers manager
[16:10] <sipior> JCDG: you have told me nothing about the application, or what its purpose is, and then you send me half of an error message about a function that failed? i'm not psychic, despite my best attempts...
[16:10] <Alan-D> amenado: No there are no Grub options
[16:11] <bazhang> err scripts not drivers
[16:11] <connor> yer that wont work i enable it and then go to visual effects and it just says desktop effects could not be enabled
[16:11] <JCDG> sipior, what do you want to know, that could help me?
[16:11] <amenado> Alan-D i forget what prompts the alternate cd provides...what are they when you boot off of it?
[16:11] <Alan-D> amenado: need a couple of mins
[16:12] <sipior> JCDG: what is the purpose of this program?
[16:12] <mohbana> how do i uninstall mysql?
[16:12] <JCDG> is to manage a cisco asa
[16:13] <sipior> JCDG: and, when you invoke the jnlp file directly through javaws, what is the *exact* error that is returned?
[16:13] <bazhang> dakira_temp: the rest is ext3?
[16:13] <JCDG> there's no error
[16:13] <sipior> JCDG: so, everything is working?
[16:14] <JCDG> there is a windows that tells "what sou tou want to do with the file?" and the default progrman is javaws
[16:14] <Alan-D> amenado: Install to hd, check cd for defect, resuc a broken system, memory test, boot from first hard disk
[16:14] <Ehlyah> bazhang: I found a possible second password, but the results haven't changed. both with s: and without
[16:14] <JCDG> ok, i click it, and then nothing happens
[16:14] <JCDG> the managemmnet progtramm that should appear, does not
[16:14] <sipior> JCDG: but when you run the program by invoking javaws on the terminal, surely you get an error?
[16:14] <Alan-D> amenado: Using the F6, we can add more options
[16:15] <bazhang> Ehlyah: network manager itself (not the applet) dont see the device?
[16:15] <JCDG> uhmm let me sendo you an image,
[16:15] <connor> so guys what can i do i use restricted drivers manager and it wont let me enable compiz
[16:15] <Ehlyah> bazhang: I think it does?
[16:15] <dakira_temp> bazhang: yep.. it i al
[16:16] <dakira_temp> bazhang; it is all ext3
[16:16] <mohbana> how do i uninstall mysql? that i installed through tasksel
[16:16] <connor> oh well ill keep trying
[16:16] <dakira_temp> bazhang: i heard it might increase the performance to pick something like XFS for /boot..
[16:16] <christoz> Hello room can you suggest me a bit-torrent app except azureus ?
[16:16] <Psynaut> Christoz: Ktorrent is awesome
[16:16] <christoz> I have deluge but it crashes
[16:17] <sipior> mohbana: see what is installed via "dpkg --get-selections | grep mysql". use "apt-get remove" to get rid of the packages you don't want
[16:17] <Alan-D> amenado: Do you know if adaptec has drivers for it's scsi controlers for Linux?
[16:17] <christoz> I have the gnome version off that
[16:17] <christoz> Psynaut
[16:17] <pro-rsoft> Hi all, anybody knows a lightweight movie player that does NOT start the gnome settings deamon each time it starts, like totem?
[16:17] <Psynaut> yes christoz?
[16:17] <christoz> Psynaut i suppose
[16:17] <hwilde> pro-rsoft, xmms is cool
[16:17] <pro-rsoft> hwilde, its kewl but does it play movies?
[16:18] <hwilde> pro-rsoft, if you get the plugins yes
[16:18] <amenado> Alan-D-> adaptec seems like the defacto standards, am pretty sure it does
[16:18] <hwilde> pro-rsoft, its just like winamp
[16:18] <pro-rsoft> hwilde which plugin
[16:18] <pro-rsoft> dont know winamp.
[16:18] <christoz> Psynaut is the samme app with bit-torrent which was preinstalled with the distro
[16:18] <benpicco_> what about mplayer?
[16:18] <christoz> ?
[16:18] <bazhang> Ehlyah: if the networkmanager app does see it; can you try configuring the wep pass from there?
[16:18] <pro-rsoft> benpicco_, mplayer is not in 'main' repos
[16:18] <hwilde> pro-rsoft, sudo aptitude search xmms                   | grep vid
[16:18] <SlicerDicer> I had my databases go wonky and lost all my files how would I regenerate the base files?
[16:19] <SlicerDicer> would that be through dpkg-reconfigure
[16:19] <amenado> Alan-D and yes choose F6  and add   priority=critical and choose install to hd
[16:19] <Psynaut> christoz: I believe the app that is installed with the Ubuntu distro is Bittorrent.  Just go into add/remove software in the applications tab and remove bittorrent then go into the synaptic package manager and seach for Ktorrent
[16:19] <pro-rsoft> hwilde, or sudo apt-get install xmms<tab> :P
[16:19] <[SAFC]stevec> my ipw wirless cards have stopped connecting to wpa, if i put a pcmcia prism card in then wpa_supplicant works, anyone any ideas
[16:19] <Alan-D> amenado: When using the priority=critical it doesn't see the controler or drivers
[16:19] <amenado> SlicerDicer-> id reinstall the database if i were you
[16:19] <hwilde> pro-rsoft, there are hundreds... what you need is xmms-xmmplayer
[16:20] <christoz> ok I'll dotaht
[16:20] <hwilde> [SAFC]stevec, you have to change the wpa-driver
[16:20] <SlicerDicer> amenado: what would I do to reinstall db?
[16:20] <pro-rsoft> hwilde, will try that thanx
[16:20] <[SAFC]stevec> hwilde_: any documentation?
[16:20] <amenado> Alan-D having priority=critical  I believe gives you a secondary menu, and from there you can select to detect hd and drivers?
[16:20] <pro-rsoft> hwilde, its not in 'main' repo ahhgr
[16:20] <amenado> SlicerDicer-> which database? mysql?
[16:21] <SlicerDicer> yeah mysql
[16:21] <SlicerDicer> amenado: least I have archive of it :)
[16:21] <amenado> SlicerDicer-> try  apt-get reinstall mysql
[16:22] <hwilde> [SAFC]stevec, man 8 wpa_supplicant     scroll down to drivers
[16:22] <hwilde> [SAFC]stevec, for the prism the default wext will work or madwifi,   for the ipw you need to switch to the ipw driver
[16:22] <JCDG> sipior http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/9307/pantallazoog0.png
[16:23] <amenado> am off
[16:23] <cheesypieces> hi guys, can anyone tell me why i can't start synaptic? it just says 'starting administrative service' then nothing happens
[16:23] <zls> core2quad 4Gb-corsas 2x500SeaBarracuda-32 Geforce8800gtx и это все не мне :(
[16:23] <JCDG> sipior thats what i get
[16:24] <bazhang> !ru | zls
[16:24] <ubotu> zls: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[16:24] <[SAFC]stevec> hwilde_: that doesn't work either. using wext it finds and tries to connect but seems to reject the psk, but the same psk works with another card
[16:24] <zls> ok
[16:25] <hwilde> [SAFC]stevec, run this:   wpa_passphrase <ssid> [passphrase]   and try the converted one it gives you
[16:25] <Psynaut> Looking for assistance or a direction to look for information on how to mount a secondary hard drive that I have just repartitioned and reformatted to ext3 from an NTFS windows partition that I didn't want anymore in 7.10.  Any help would be awesome.
[16:26] <[SAFC]stevec> hwilde_: no that doesn't work either. It's never worked on this laptop (hardy), but did work and has stopped working on my other laptop (feisty). The wpa_supplicant.conf file is definently correct as ir works for the prism card
[16:28] <hwilde> [SAFC]stevec, try ap_scan = 0/1/2
[16:28] <cheesypieces> hi guys, can anyone tell me why i can't start synaptic? it just says 'starting administrative service' then nothing happens
[16:28] <hwilde> [SAFC]stevec, that param tells the driver to handle it differently
[16:28] <hwilde> cheesypieces, try from the command line "sudo synaptic"
[16:28] <hwilde> !ntfs | Psynaut
[16:28] <ubotu> Psynaut: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[16:29] <JCDG> sipior, are you tehre?
[16:29] <linduxed> how do i make a terminal start as a bit larger than the current window size?
[16:29] <hwilde> linduxed, edit the current profile from the menu
[16:29] <cheesypieces> hwilde it says it can't resolve host if i do that
[16:29] <Psynaut> hwilde: thanks but I have already formatted and partitioned the drive to ext3 from NTFS using gparted.  I just can't figure out how to mount the damned thing.  been in /etc/fstab with no luck
[16:29] <[SAFC]stevec> hwilde_: Line 4: unknown network field 'ap_scan'
[16:30] <hwilde> [SAFC]stevec, before the network block
[16:30] <hwilde> Psynaut, that link tells you how.  read it
[16:30] <hwilde> !ntfs | Psynaut
[16:30] <ubotu> Psynaut: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[16:31] <hwilde> cheesypieces, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file, and the output of ifconfig
[16:31] <[SAFC]stevec> hwilde_: yes that works! Thanks!
[16:31] <JCDG> does somebody know how to fix this? http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/9307/pantallazoog0.png
[16:31] <[SAFC]stevec> hwilde_: ah no its not
[16:31] <sipior> JCDG: well, i saw your image, but 1) The text is in spanish. 2) Where is the terminal where you invoked javaws?
[16:32] <MrBill> is /etc/hostname all I need to worry about if I want to change the name of my PC?
[16:32]  * delcoyote hi
[16:32] <cheesypieces> hwilde: how would that help? my network is working fine
[16:32] <[SAFC]stevec> hwilde_: http://pastebin.ca/981109
[16:33] <Psynaut> hwilde: thanks, the description of the link was misleading.
[16:33] <mw-home> I want to downgrade a package. How to?\
[16:33] <hwilde> [SAFC]stevec, http://linux.die.net/man/8/wpa_supplicant    http://linux.die.net/man/5/wpa_supplicant.conf
[16:33] <hwilde> [SAFC]stevec, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62837/   <-- every option
[16:33] <hwilde> cheesypieces, do it!
[16:33] <MrBill> exit
[16:33] <hwilde> cheesypieces, I bet your localhost is fubar
[16:34] <cheesypieces> hwilde: no idea what fubar is but i'll do it
[16:34] <hwilde> [SAFC]stevec, CTRL DISCONNECT is you hitting ctrl+c   let it run through
[16:34] <JCDG> sipior http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62838/
[16:35] <linduxed> hwilde: thx
[16:35] <hwilde> linduxed, not everything is a mystery :)  look at the menu options and stuff people have provided
[16:36] <cheesypieces> hwilde: http://pastebin.com/d517f05e
[16:37] <hwilde> cheesypieces, why did you put that stuff under lo
[16:37] <sipior> JCDG: if you start javaws from the terminal (with no arguments), it should open an application manager. if you then open your jnlp file from within that, does it work?
[16:37] <brand0n> hi. i have xp installed now. if I wanted to have xp, vista, ubuntu triple boot, should I vista or ubuntu first?
[16:37] <JCDG> let me try
[16:37] <hwilde> cheesypieces, delete the address and netmask under lo in your interfaces file
[16:37] <hwilde> brand0n, vista first, ubuntu will recognize it
[16:38] <linduxed> hwilde: hmmm, turns out it doesnt have the option im looking for, is the command line equivalent -w and -h?
[16:38] <[SAFC]stevec> hwilde_: it just loops round and round there, and I;ve been through all the documentation. as I say it worked a couple of dyas agao now has just stopped
[16:38] <JCDG> if i start javaws with no arguments, the terminal send me information telling me that i need to have an arguement
[16:38] <hwilde> [SAFC]stevec, well it's probably an incompatibility.  what card and what ap
[16:38] <cheesypieces> hwilde: how do i edit it?
[16:39] <hwilde> cheesypieces, sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[16:39] <JCDG> and show the options that i can type
[16:39] <[SAFC]stevec> ipw2200bg and a 2100, ans a linksya wap54g. thy have been working together fine for years
[16:39] <cheesypieces> hwilde: thats the problem, sudo isn't working
[16:40] <cheesypieces> it says it can't resolve the host
[16:40] <biagidp> Has anyone else experienced crazy processor use with firefox?  Where it spikes to 100% processor usage each page load?
[16:41] <JCDG> sipior i found out that if i go to java web site and i try to verufy if java is installed the page tells me that i have java 1.5 installed
[16:41] <JCDG> but if i go to synaptics theres jre installed, i im right that should be the java 6
[16:42] <d0netsLap> hey is firefox 3.5 the latest beta
[16:42] <d0netsLap> for some reason my back button isnt working
[16:42] <d0netsLap> its pretty lame : /
[16:42] <sipior> JCDG: what does update-java-alternatives -l"
[16:42] <sipior> JCDG: report?
[16:42] <d0netsLap> hey i think i los tmy connection
[16:43] <d0netsLap> is 3.5 the latest firefox beta?
[16:43] <Pricey> d0netsLap, firefox 3, beta 5 is the latest afaik
[16:43] <d0netsLap> oh thanks
[16:43] <d0netsLap> any idea why my back button wouldnt work?
[16:43] <d0netsLap> also how can i get foxmarks working in the beta
[16:44] <sipior> d0netsLap: this isn't really a firefox support channel...
[16:44] <bazhang> biagidp: lot of addons there?
[16:44] <W8TAH> can someone suggest a good looking dvd player, (im in hardy beta) movie player works fine just looks boring
[16:44] <JCDG> sipior http://pastebin.com/m28fd2474
[16:44] <bazhang> hardy channel please #ubuntu+1
[16:44] <d0netsLap> yea sorry i guess your right
[16:45] <Liz_Tayly> hi..can i make screenshot in mplayer?is that possible?
[16:45] <d0netsLap> i just figured one o fyou guys would know
[16:45] <sipior> d0netsLap: no worries
[16:45] <d0netsLap> i didnt realize there were this many people in here on frenode
[16:45] <d0netsLap> i was hangin out in the efnet channel
[16:45] <d0netsLap> i have had horrible experiences with them
[16:45] <d0netsLap> so i just told them to f' off
[16:45] <unop_> n00dl3, ~45000 people on freenode
[16:45] <d0netsLap> and came here
[16:45] <zyonx> hola, algun español?¿
[16:46] <unop_> !ot
[16:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:46] <biagidp> bazhang: just web dev toolbar and firebug, but the problem was present before I installed those
[16:46] <d0netsLap> i feel liberated
[16:46] <JCDG> zyonx,  dime
[16:46] <d0netsLap> lol
[16:46] <unop_> !es | zyonx,
[16:46] <ubotu> zyonx,: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:47] <Liz_Tayly> hi..can i make screenshot in mplayer?is that possible?
[16:47] <sipior> JCDG: well, you're definitely running java 6. not sure what to tell you at this point; perhaps contact your software vendor and see if they have a solution for you
[16:47] <biagidp> bazhang: I've had no trouble with firefox on multiple ubuntu installs in the past, my latest 7.10 install has made firefox all wonky
[16:47] <bazhang> biagidp: I'm not real helpful here as I am on ff3--big improvement btw
[16:47] <unop_> Liz_Tayly, have you tried making a screen shot?
[16:47] <JCDG> uhmmm the problem is that i'm one of them, jejeje
[16:48] <julien> salut
[16:48] <biagidp> bazhang: Yeah, I've heard good things. I guess I could always give it a try.
[16:48] <sipior> JCDG: ah. time to talk to the programmers...
[16:48] <bazhang> hello julien
[16:48] <julien> lol il y a **** millions de gents connecté et personne qui parle :P
[16:48] <thundr3> !fr | julien
[16:48] <ubotu> julien: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:48] <JCDG> jejeje... ok, thxs so much...for now i'll have to use win2
[16:48] <JCDG> :(
[16:49] <Liz_Tayly> unop_: cannot take frame by frame like media player?
[16:49] <sipior> JCDG: sorry to hear that; best of luck getting it working under linux
[16:49] <cheesypieces> hwilde: don't know if you replied in the meantime, i had to reboot, but can you tell me how to get sudo working so i can change that file?
[16:49] <unop_> Liz_Tayly, do you want a screenshot or to record a sequence of frames?
[16:49] <JCDG> yeah, it's sad in fact im angry for that sipior
[16:50] <JCDG> sipior thxs man...good luck..
[16:50] <julien> help me please , I have sometime blanck screen
[16:50] <julien> black*
[16:50] <JCDG> well that good luck must be for me XD
[16:50] <Liz_Tayly> unop_:  to record a sequence of frames
[16:51] <julien> I installed nvidia's drivers with envy
[16:51] <unop_> !screencast | Liz_Tayly
[16:51] <ubotu> Liz_Tayly: Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[16:52] <ricanelite> does anyone here run preload?
[16:52] <huggybeers> IDENTIFY
[16:52] <bazhang> huggybeers: best to do that in the server window
[16:52] <bastid_raZor> !envy
[16:52] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[16:53] <julien> aidez moi lol j'ai plus de son ^^
[16:53] <julien> j'en avait quand j'était sous windows a l'instant
[16:53] <unop_> !fr | julien
[16:53] <ubotu> julien: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:53] <unop_> merci!!
[16:53] <bazhang> julien /j #ubuntu-fr
[16:53] <huggybeers> Thanks I am newe to this
[16:56] <andre__> Hi I want to encrypt my filesystem using a keyfile on my usb-pen.. But I cant find any solution of this, can anyone please give me a hint on where to find more info? :) Thank you
[16:56] <benpicco_> depends on your OS
[16:56] <bazhang> truecrypt?
[16:56] <cheesypieces> hi guys can anyone tell me how to get sudo working? it just tells me it can't resolve the hostname and then doesn't do anything
[16:56] <unop_> smartcard time
[16:56] <IshinoSan> truecrypt would be my choice as well ;)
[16:57] <benpicco_> cheesypieces: why should sudo resolve any hostnames?
[16:57] <unop_> !hostname | cheesypieces (verify your hostname is setup properly)
[16:57] <ubotu> cheesypieces (verify your hostname is setup properly): Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[16:57] <hischild> cheesypieces, you have to add your hostname to /etc/hosts
[16:57] <Ntemis> hello ppl
[16:57] <hischild> benpicco_, it can apparently also be used on remote systems.
[16:57] <Ntemis> i need some help
[16:57] <unop_> benpicco_, to differentiate a username on the localmachine from the same username from another machine
[16:58] <biagidp> ntemis: What's up?
[16:58] <Ntemis> after the recent updates my ntfs hdds are nowhere to be found
[16:58] <Ntemis> i dont see them anymore
[16:58] <bazhang> gutsy Ntemis?
[16:58] <Ntemis> yes
[16:58] <unop_> Ntemis, does this list them?  sudo fdisk -l
[16:58] <XB23> hey guys, how can i find out if a firewall on my machine is blocking ports?
[16:58] <cheesypieces> guys, how can i add my host to/etc/hosts without using sudo?
[16:58] <hischild> cheesypieces, reboot in recovery mode
[16:58] <Ntemis> yes
[16:58] <huggybeers> ct/hosts
[16:58] <Ntemis>  sudo fdisk -l this shows them
[16:59] <unop_> cheesypieces, well, check that your hostname isnt in /etc/hosts before doing anything else
[16:59] <andre__> Full disk encryption with lvm on top, using dm_crypt (i think the default in ubuntu 8.04 beta)
[16:59] <cheesypieces> unop_: should it be in the hosts ?file or not
[16:59] <unop_> cheesypieces, it should
[16:59] <cheesypieces> ok
[17:00] <Ntemis> unop_ what next
[17:00] <unop_> Ntemis, should be fairly easy to mount.  sudo sh -c "mkdir /media/ntfs; mount /dev/sdXX /media/ntfs"
[17:00] <Ntemis> anything to fix?
[17:00] <diogo> hi i play runescape
[17:00] <unop_> Ntemis, not sure why gnome isnt picking them up tho
[17:00] <XB23> how can i find out if a firewall on my machine is blocking ports?
[17:00] <XB23> or port 1000 to be more specific
[17:00] <bazhang> andre__: you on hardy?
[17:00] <BDI> Hi, my friend made me have ubuntu but now I can't do internet explorer
[17:00] <biagidp> Ntemis: I follow this tutorial to http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindowsmount my windows drives:
[17:00] <cheesypieces> sorted thanks guys!
[17:00] <andre__> bazhang, yes :)
[17:00] <liping> 华
[17:00] <Ntemis> all my buddies that have ubuntu sudently they cannot see there ntfs hdd
[17:00] <biagidp> ntemis: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[17:00] <bastid_raZor> BDI; try firefox
[17:01] <sipior> XB23: generally, try "sudo iptables -L"
[17:01] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please andre__
[17:01] <Lamego> XB23, by default no ports are blocked
[17:01] <biagidp> ntemis: sorry the first one messed up
[17:01] <liping> who are you
[17:01] <Ntemis> something wrong with the updates
[17:01] <liping> kao
[17:01] <unop_> Ntemis, i didnt have a problem
[17:01] <Ntemis> before update all ok
[17:01] <bazhang> !cn | liping
[17:01] <ubotu> liping: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[17:01] <bastid_raZor> Ntemis; i didn't either.. just did my 7.10 updates
[17:01] <BDI> What's a firefox? I need internet explorer to do the internet
[17:02] <BDI> And minesweeper is gone
[17:02] <unop_> Ntemis, if that command mounts your hdds, you can add entries to /etc/fstab for them
[17:02] <bazhang> BDI: surely you jest
[17:02] <Ntemis> my friend and 1st man dont see his usb enclosure (ntfs) also
[17:02] <bastid_raZor> BDI; firefox is in place of IE.. firefox is safer too..
[17:02] <hischild> !lnw | BDI, this is linux, not windows. Please read this.
[17:02] <ubotu> BDI, this is linux, not windows. Please read this.: Want to know the differences between Windows and Linux? This guide, called "Linux is Not Windows" is a pretty good read -- http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[17:02] <sipior> BDI: looks like you caught the ubuntu virus, my friend
[17:02] <Ntemis> but why they have broken? in the first place
[17:02] <Ntemis> ?
[17:02] <bazhang> minesweeper?
[17:02] <hischild> bazhang, mines
[17:02] <BDI> I'll read that link, thanks
[17:03] <XB23> Lamego i think my hosting company have installed a firewall on a custom iso
[17:03] <Ntemis> wait software updates available
[17:03] <XB23> im trying to run webmin but webmin wont connect despite it saying its running
[17:03] <Ntemis> wine and rsync :(
[17:04] <connor> Hi can somebody help me with my graphics card driver i have an at raedon x1950 and restricted drivers manager just wont work
[17:04] <bazhang> hischild: aye; just thought he must be kidding
[17:04] <connor> maybe via remote assistance
[17:04] <hischild> bazhang, we're thinking alike. That's why i gave him that link to read.
[17:04] <bazhang> connor you removed envy?
[17:05] <connor> yes
[17:05] <connor> then tried restricted drivers manager and when i reboot it just says its disabled again
[17:05] <andre__> Hi, I just wondered how I can setup my encrypted ubuntu to use a keyfile on my usb rather than type in my 30+ character passphrase twice (once for root and once again for home partition) on each bootup? :)
[17:05] <connor> in restricted drivers
[17:05] <Jeruvy> I'm trying to  print a OO ods document, and it's cutting off due to the HUGE margins, I've tried to change this but nothing fixing the actual margins.
[17:06] <diogo> hi i hef a question do some one hefs hacking programs?
[17:06] <bazhang> andre__: hardy channel please ;]
[17:06] <rosa> hola
[17:06] <diogo> ?
[17:06] <bazhang> diogo: not here please
[17:06] <rosa> we speak español?
[17:06] <andre__> bazhang, i believe this is a general ubuntu question? :)
[17:06] <Lamego> diogo, your english is not good enough, and try another channel
[17:06] <TwinX> !es
[17:06] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:07] <thedonvaughn> diogo: no cracking help here.  move along
[17:07] <bazhang> andre__: I dont have the energy to argue ;]
[17:07] <diogo> ?
[17:07] <hwilde> andre__, just ask in ubuntu+1
[17:07] <sls_> what are the actual files that the ubuntu installer actually uses? I am loading gutsy over http on a local source i created using apt-cacher.
[17:07] <connor> could someone install my graphics card driver by remote assistance
[17:08] <diogo> but i was hacked in runescape
[17:08] <Jeruvy> I'm trying to  print a OO ods document, and it's cutting off due to the margins, I've tried to change this but nothing is changing
[17:08] <hischild> hwilde,  assuming it's the same solution on gutsy and hardy, i'd say let him stay. Until there's a point that it actually makes a difference then i'd say go switch.
[17:08] <andre__> hwilde, bazhang i have asked but noone is answering.. but isn't this the same for the current and beta version?
[17:08] <maek> no connor you have to do it by yourself
[17:08] <Jeruvy> connor, no you need console access
[17:08] <Pricey> diogo, we don't do hacking or other illegal discussion here sorry.
[17:08] <hwilde> hischild, i know but bazhang is on edge
[17:08] <sipior> andre__: i think you can simply arrange to have the passphrase in a gnome keyring, and then have that keyring unlocked automatically upon login
[17:08] <connor> i have console access
[17:08] <sls_> THe installer is bombing ouduring downloadeing installer components
[17:08] <diogo> o ok
[17:08] <Jeruvy> connor then install it
[17:09] <maek> connor just use envy
[17:09] <sls_> what is it actually trying to download
[17:09] <bazhang> hwilde: haha me on edge? I am barely awake here
[17:09] <connor> i was told not to use envy
[17:09] <maek> !envy | connor
[17:09] <ubotu> connor: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[17:09] <connor> and anyway envy always makes my audio loop
[17:10] <hischild> bazhang, just do take care of yourself mkay?
[17:10] <bazhang> hischild: thanks! ;]
[17:10] <andre__> sipior, gnome is still encrypted when im asked for the passphrase during usplash
[17:10] <hwilde> andre__, you probably need this... https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-mount/+bug/133520   "Patch to auto-mount LUKS key-file encrypted volumes"
[17:11] <andre__> hwilde, thanks, ill look into it now :)
[17:11] <achandrashekar> hi...ive been struggling with a 7.10 ppc install on to g4's..the install inevitably drops me to shell.
[17:11] <achandrashekar>  any help would be appreciated here..the install with dapper works fine on all machines.
[17:11] <achandrashekar>  i have a total of 10 of these machines.
[17:11] <achandrashekar>  any ideas?
[17:11] <FloodBot2> achandrashekar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:11] <hwilde> achandrashekar, did you check the cd for errors
[17:11] <connor> hello restricted drivers manager will not install the drivers for my ati raedon x1950
[17:11] <hwilde> !ati | connor
[17:11] <ubotu> connor: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:11] <connor> and envy makes my audio loop
[17:12] <achandrashekar> cant check errors...if it never makes it to even the first screen....
[17:12] <hwilde> achandrashekar, burn a new cd, if that doesn't work, redownload
[17:12] <bazhang> what about the md5 sums achandrashekar
[17:12] <achandrashekar> already did that..and burned it at a low speed.
[17:12] <sipior> achandrashekar: what error is given when you get dropped to a shell?
[17:13] <sls_> ok so the ubuntu installer is looking for there but they are not on the cd even??
[17:13] <hischild> bazhang, i know the feeling, feels kind of the same over here ...'
[17:13] <sls_> [Fri Apr 11 11:10:30 2008] [error] [client 10.0.0.6] File does not exist: /srv/www/htdocs/os/ubuntu/gutsy/dists/gutsy/main/debian-installer
[17:13] <sls_> [Fri Apr 11 11:10:30 2008] [error] [client 10.0.0.6] File does not exist: /srv/www/htdocs/os/ubuntu/gutsy/dists/gutsy/main/debian-installer
[17:13] <sls_> [Fri Apr 11 11:10:30 2008] [error] [client 10.0.0.6] File does not exist: /srv/www/htdocs/os/ubuntu/gutsy/dists/gutsy/restricted/debian-installer
[17:13] <sls_> [Fri Apr 11 11:10:30 2008] [error] [client 10.0.0.6] File does not exist: /srv/www/htdocs/os/ubuntu/gutsy/dists/gutsy/restricted/debian-installer
[17:13] <hwilde> !paste | sls_
[17:13] <ubotu> sls_: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[17:14] <TestUser1234> JOIN #asdf
[17:14] <bazhang> hischild: cant wait until the two channels merge ;]
[17:14] <hischild> bazhang, i so want to be there at that time
[17:15] <bazhang> same here; maybe hwilde will forgive me for being on edge by then ;]
[17:15] <hwilde> bazhang, at that point you will be on heron
[17:15] <hischild> bazhang, heh i'm sure he will. But you know what i'll miss most? the !hardy factoid
[17:16] <hwilde> I miss the !windows factoid that said consult your local mental health practitioner
[17:16] <bazhang> heh already am on the next release (sshh!)
[17:16] <hischild> hwilde, you still have the !lnw factoid
[17:16] <bazhang> where is Pici to tell us !ot? ;]
[17:17] <Pici> !ot | bazhang hischild
[17:17] <ubotu> bazhang hischild: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:17] <hischild> nice timing there Pichu0102
[17:17] <hischild> * Pici
[17:17] <bazhang> Pici: ;] thanks err sorry
[17:17] <andre__> hwilde, this is for mounting encrypted partitions in gnome right? i have 2 disk that are encrypted, running lvm over these and my partitions as logical volumes.. whenever i boot I have to enter my 30+ char. passphrase for each harddrives sda and sdb during bootup in usplash.. and to avoid this i want to use a keyfile on my usbpen =) any idea how to do this? :)
[17:18] <user1> how to distro upgrade by apt?
[17:18] <bazhang> user1 from which to which?
[17:18] <dreq> did the latest ubuntu unstable updates break someting?
[17:18] <dreq> I had to boot in on the previous kernel to get in
[17:19] <ForzaPalermo> what do u do if u accidently deleted your /var/lib directory?
[17:19] <Pici> dreq: Hardy? #ubuntu+1 please.
[17:19] <ForzaPalermo> at the command line level
[17:19] <thedonvaughn> dreq: prolly.   #ubuntu+1
[17:19] <user1> bazhang:  7.10 to latest
[17:19] <dreq> ok
[17:19] <dreq> thanks
[17:19] <nickrud> !clone | ForzaPalermo
[17:19] <ubotu> ForzaPalermo: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[17:19] <nickrud> ForzaPalermo that is, reinstall
[17:19] <[T]ank> when i am in dual screen mode (aticonfig --dtop=horizontal --overlay-on=1) anything using my gl driver like mplayer or google earth, the video or map is shifted about 1/3 the screen to the left, so i have empty space on the right side and the left side is cut off. anyone know how to correct that?
[17:19] <wers> what consumes least resources and is fastest; Rhythmbox, Exaile, Quod Libet, or Banshee? :)
[17:19] <hwilde> andre__, you are better off googling it because I doubt anybody here has done that exact thing
[17:20] <pc-illiterate> where can i get help installing a game with an installer ?
[17:20] <bazhang> user1 edit sources.list to new version, update then dist-upgrade
[17:20] <wers> in my experience, it's exaile. is it the case for you too? :)
[17:20] <hwilde> [T]ank, can't you adjust the horizontal on the monitor itself
[17:20] <ForzaPalermo> so i have to do a reinstall of my distro?
[17:20] <Pici> ForzaPalermo: I think thats the best solution
[17:20] <[T]ank> its within the application window that the images are shifted
[17:20] <[T]ank> the desktop is correct
[17:20] <nickrud> ForzaPalermo yes, now that I'm waking up you can't even do a clone, because the package database was in /var/lib
[17:21] <[T]ank> gl rendered images are not
[17:21] <ForzaPalermo> shit
[17:21] <Pici> !language | ForzaPalermo
[17:21] <ubotu> ForzaPalermo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:21] <ForzaPalermo> sorry
[17:21] <ForzaPalermo> !language
[17:21] <thedonvaughn> ForzaPalermo: /var/lib is pretty important.  unless you havea  backup, you will need to do a re-install
[17:21] <Parsi> hi pple
[17:21] <Parsi> is linux available for mobile phones?
[17:21] <bazhang> !hi
[17:21] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:21] <ForzaPalermo> alright thanks
[17:21] <nickrud> ForzaPalermo you might want to look into sbackup for next time
[17:22] <nickrud> oh
[17:22] <linduxed> how do i prevent the process "trackerd" from starting up
[17:22] <nickrud> linduxed system->prefs->session , disable it in startup programs
[17:22] <thedonvaughn> Parsi: http://tuxmobil.org/phones_linux.html
[17:22] <andre__> hwilde, ive tried googling it, but i cant find any logical answer.. but even without lvm it should be the same i guess.. the nearset i found on google was this http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Encrypted_Root_Filesystem#Encrypt_using_a_key-file for arch linux, but i dont understand how to make the usb/keyfile thing in ubuntu
[17:23] <achadwick> linduxed: also ~your-menu~ > Settings > Tracker Preferences > General > Enable Indexing (set to off)
[17:23] <sinan> greetings ! I am having a problem with X (or the greeter, I am not sure). When i start ubuntu from the LiveCD, it works fine, when i install it and try to start it, it loads the GUI for a short while (Showing a mouse cursor), then closes and tries again .. then reports problems with the Greeter .. the reports that X has been restarted 6 times in the last 90 seconds. What can i DO ?
[17:24] <sipior> andre__: out of curiosity, why an encrypted root filesystem? it seems like it adds a great deal of complexity with very little return in security.
[17:24] <Parsi> thedonvaughn, iment installing linux on mobile phone as it's firmwork
[17:24] <Jeruvy> How do I get a document to print within the margins defined in the printer?   Using OO.
[17:24] <andre__> sipior, deniability :P
[17:24] <user1> bazhang:  heres a link if any one else asks you. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[17:25] <andre__> sipior, and just to test
[17:26] <pc-illiterate> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[17:26] <Pici> Parsi: I don't believe that ubuntu-mobile is in the works, but it is not yet in release form. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded
[17:26] <bazhang> user1: thanks I just used the cli
[17:26] <Parsi> thankx Pici
[17:26] <sinan> guys, anyone can help me with my X problem ?
[17:27] <sipior> sinan: hard to say until you describe the problem :-)
[17:28] <sinan> sipior: I did above, no one answered me :) when ubuntu starts, X keeps crashing and reloading. Works fine in the Live  CD, but not in the installation
[17:28] <[T]ank> if i switch to aticonfig --dtop=single then my display in my applications is correct.
[17:28] <[T]ank> but then i dont have dual screen :-(
[17:28] <[T]ank> any ideas
[17:28] <unop_> andre__, http://howtoforge.com/truecrypt_data_encryption see the section on "Can I hold the key on a pendrive/USB stick?"
[17:29] <pc-illiterate> where can i get help installing a game with an installer ?
[17:29] <sipior> sinan: when X fails, it should dump some error messages to your console. what are they?
[17:29] <unop_> andre__, but beware of the fact that if you lose the usb stick and don't have a backup you lose your data!!!
[17:29] <sipior> sinan: kindly pastebin them, if you could
[17:30] <ken_> how can i install a pci wireless card in ubuntu?
[17:30] <Parsi> Hardy will came with GNOME 2.22.1>
[17:31] <sinan> sipior: it gives a visual error saying that "x has crashed 6 times in the last 90 seconds", with an OK button. I can't seem to find any other error messages, can you direct me where I could find them ?
[17:31] <Parsi> ?
[17:32] <sipior> sinan: after you quit out of the "crashed 6 times" dialogue, you should be back to a simple console. is that not the case?
[17:32] <sinan> correct, it is. I am back to the console after each crash actually.
[17:32] <sinan> sipior: i haven't noticed anything unusual there, let me re-check, brb.
[17:33] <sipior> sinan: and there should be an error listing left on the console
[17:33] <Parsi> Hardy will came with gnome 2.22.1??
[17:33] <sipior> sinan: you can also just pastebin the X log file, in: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:33] <Zasch> Hello! Is there a good calendar program for Ubuntu that isn't evolution?
[17:34] <ken_> is there away to get a gigabyte pci wireless card working with ndiswrapper?
[17:34] <sipior> Zasch: not really, no :-) google calendar is nice, though...
[17:35] <bazhang> ken_: what is the chipset?
[17:35] <zelip> ey guys.. i have this monitor attached to the ubuntu box, and the it shows the ouput disturbed by frequency.. even though its set to 60 hz.
[17:35] <Parsi> anyone ?!
[17:35] <ken_> my mobo bazhang ?
[17:35] <zelip> it shows like does old monitors ..
[17:36] <bazhang> Parsi: hardy question in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[17:36] <ken_> bazhang: or the pci card itself?
[17:36] <Parsi> bazhang thankx
[17:36] <bazhang> ken_: the wireless chipset
[17:36] <ken_> 802.11 b/g
[17:36] <ken_> bazhang: 802.11 b/g
[17:37] <bazhang> ken_: something like broadcom, atheros, realtek, etc
[17:37] <ken_> bazhang: gigabyte
[17:37] <bazhang> ken_: is it installed now?
[17:38] <ken_> bazhang: its in my comp, yes
[17:38] <pc-illiterate> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[17:38] <pc-illiterate> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[17:38] <FloodBot2> pc-illiterate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:38] <bazhang> ken_: could you please open a terminal and type lspci and see what that reports ( the single line not the whole thing) thanks
[17:39] <ken_> bazhang: Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[17:39] <andre__> anyone knows how the usplash is working in order to grab passphrases to unlock encrypted harddrives? and howto replace the passphrase with a keyfile like discussed in "Use Case 3" here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedFilesystems
[17:40] <bazhang> ken_: does ifconfig (in the terminal) show two entries eth0 lo, or a third as well like ra0 rausb0 or wlan0
[17:40] <cescofry> hi all
[17:40] <ken_> bazhang: wlan and -00
[17:40] <bazhang> andre__: pushing the limits of hardy help in ubuntu channel ;]
[17:40] <LollinopiL> can I disable the CPU alarm ? ? ? ? it rings everytime I close an ODT document .....
[17:41] <ken_> bazhang:  sorry, wlan and wmaster
[17:41] <sipior> the CPU alarm?
[17:41] <bazhang> ken_: you have a wifi spot to test it on?
[17:41] <ken_> bazhang: yes
[17:41] <bazhang> ken_: encrypted or open?
[17:42] <ken_> bazhang: open
[17:42] <andre__> bazhang, i am very sorry, but what if i want to do the same on my other computer running feisty?
[17:42] <bazhang> ken_: does sudo dhclient wlan0 (or interface name) give you a dhcpoffer?
[17:43] <bazhang> andre__: just commenting ;] I dont *enforce* the rules here hehe
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> andre__, Go to the Hardy room, get it working per the howto you are using and then work on feisty
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> MOrning Baz
[17:44] <bazhang> Jack_Sparrow: to the rescue ;]
[17:44] <bazhang> we really missed you Jack
[17:44] <andre__> Jack_Sparrow, the howto is for feisty :)
[17:45] <Jack_Sparrow> I had a great time in Florida thanks
[17:45] <bazhang> nice ;]
[17:45] <sanchinpin> help me....
[17:45] <Jack_Sparrow> andre__, Are you trying to get it going on a feisty box or Hardy box?
[17:46] <hischild> Jack_Sparrow, you're back? oh thank god =)
[17:46] <bazhang> sanchinpin: ask a question please
[17:46] <sanchinpin> have someone ubuntu 8.04?
[17:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks guys..
[17:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[17:46] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:46] <sanchinpin> I need install the libraries libblas.so
[17:46] <sanchinpin> and libblapack.so
[17:46] <bazhang> indeed; this channel was sorely lacking
[17:47] <sanchinpin> I have tried to install all the packets
[17:47] <bazhang> sanchinpin: #ubuntu+1 please thanks
[17:47] <sanchinpin> atlas and more.
[17:47] <andre__> Jack_Sparrow, first on hardy, but it seems like its not so easy, but i going to do it on my feisty now :)
[17:47] <sanchinpin> locate libblas.so
[17:47] <Jack_Sparrow> sanchinpin, Please see the link provided for the Hardy Channel..
[17:47] <sanchinpin> give no results.
[17:47] <sanchinpin> Jack_Sparrow,
[17:47] <sanchinpin> what is this link?
[17:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy > sanchinpin
[17:48] <sipior> sanchinpin: if you haven't refreshed the locate database, it won't show the files you just installed...
[17:48] <bazhang> sanchinpin: /j #ubuntu+1 thanks
[17:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Two more weeks then one big happy family..
[17:48] <bazhang> haha
[17:48] <sipior> until the next time
[17:48] <chtri> so anyone run x64 with 4 gb of ram? os say that only 3.8 gb available
[17:49] <bastid_raZor> chtri; i have 2G and it says 1.98.. but does that really matter?
[17:49] <raboof> is it possible for a source package to produce one binary package in main and another in universe?
[17:49] <andre__> When I am booting up my Feisty usplash is asking for my passphrase to unlock my harddrive thats encrypted.. can i replace this passphrase with a keyfile on my usb pendrive? :)
[17:49] <Jack_Sparrow> chtri, there are many links on the web about it.  Nothing to be concerned about.  If you want to see all 4 gigs I think you can switch to a server kernel
[17:50] <chtri> Jack_Sparrow: i guess i should try that
[17:50] <sanchinpin> !hardy
[17:50] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:51] <Jack_Sparrow> chtri, are you running desktop or server.. and why bother.  it really doesnt matter much and swapping kernels around can cause endless headaches
[17:51] <jagggy> when i run warsow, and i play for a while, my comp just crashes, any ideas on howto fix?
[17:51] <andre__> !feisty
[17:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) was the sixth release of Ubuntu.  Upgrading to Fesity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[17:51] <andre__> !gutsy
[17:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[17:52] <lkthomas> hey guys
[17:52] <andre__> I'm sorry I am running Gutsy Gibbons and not Feisty
[17:52] <Jack_Sparrow> andre__, please /msg ubotu    so as not to spam the channel for your own requests
[17:52] <lkthomas> if I want to start bridge whenever my ubuntu startup, what should I do
[17:52] <hackcrow2> hola todos
[17:52] <chtri> Jack_Sparrow: desktop. well 200 mb really not make a difference, you are right, but why problem exist at all in 1st place? windows dosn't loose these 200 mb
[17:52] <hackcrow2> alguien me puede ayudar  con el ubuntu
[17:53] <Pici> !e | hackcrow2
[17:53] <ubotu> hackcrow2: Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[17:53] <Pici> !es | hackcrow2
[17:53] <ubotu> hackcrow2: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:53] <tehk> I am having an issue with nautilus templates, I created the folder in my home directory and placed templates inside but it does not seem to register them
[17:53] <user1> kget's resume support is not good. am i right? any better  dl manager for good resume support and for larg downloads?
[17:53] <maek> restart X tehk
[17:53] <Jack_Sparrow> chtri, It isnt lost.. it is just used differently...  like I said it is well documented on the web.
[17:53] <maek> see if that fixes it
[17:53] <restiffbard> hey, quick question I hope, want to run a script by launching it from gnome without having to open a terminal window. just click the script and it runs. any funny permissions or jimcrackery I need to do?
[17:54] <jagggy> when i run warsow, and i play for a while, my comp just crashes, anyone has an idea on howto fix?
[17:54] <tehk> maek, I have restarted many times since then
[17:54] <chtri> Jack_Sparrow: got an url?
[17:54] <jagggy> restiffbard, chmod +x
[17:54] <Jack_Sparrow> not one handy no.
[17:55] <gerard2> someone can tellme about a debian application for automatically  copy the clipboard content in a text file, like glipper/klipper but what save that content  in simple text  file?
[17:55] <trolleh> hey all. Been trying to boot from the livecd for both gutsy and hardy, and it hangs every time. Both are doing the same thing, i believe, but i can never get any text to display using the gutsy livecd, even with splash and quiet removed, or safe mode.
[17:55] <jagggy> anyone? please?
[17:55] <kernfreak> wow, im u-banned
[17:55] <Pici> trolleh: have you tried the alternate installer cd?
[17:55] <unop_> gerard2, xclip
[17:55] <trolleh> It appears to fail to read from the cdrom drive. In hardy i just get a loop of 'failed to enable atapi' for the cdrom. In gutsy i get nothing. It's a SATA drive, chipset is intel ICH9 in AHCI mode.
[17:56] <Jack_Sparrow> trolleh, At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[17:56] <chris062689> I really feel like Ubuntu is turning into the newbie distro.
[17:56] <chris062689> I want to move out and experience the "true" Linux...
[17:56] <restiffbard> then do an LFS system
[17:56] <chris062689> Not this watered down version Ubuntu offers..  That's what it feels like to me.
[17:56] <unop_> chris062689, gentoo it is then .. what's stopping you?
[17:57] <trolleh> already tried without quiet and splash. Just suprised as I've had no issues with the same chipset in another system.
[17:57] <kernfreak> LFS is a little extreme
[17:57] <Jack_Sparrow> chris062689, you are offtopic...
[17:57] <jagggy> when i run warsow, and i play for a while, my comp just crashes, anyone has an idea on howto fix?
[17:57] <raboof> chris062689: well, ubuntu's goal has always been to 'bring linux to the people'
[17:57] <Crembo> help! I want to upgrade my version of miro, but synaptic is complaining that the package from miro's gutsy gibbon repo depends on libxine (<1.1.8). seeing as how I have libxine 1.1.10~gutsy1, that's a problem. is there a way I can force an installation of the newer miro package?
[17:57] <kernfreak> this is how I got banned, the offtopic thing
[17:57] <trolleh> jagggy: it wouldn't be a system heat issue would it?
[17:57] <jagggy> trolleh, nope :(
[17:58] <raboof> chris062689: more 'technical' distro's a-plenty ;)
[17:58] <chris062689> yeah..
[17:58] <kernfreak> wonder if I can go for round 2
[17:58] <user1> kget's resume support is not good. am i right? any better  dl manager for good resume support and for larg downloads?
[17:58] <chris062689> I've been looking around to find a more technical distro.
[17:58] <Jack_Sparrow> raboof, and others, please dont feed the troll
[17:58] <Pici> !offtopic | chris062689 kernfreak
[17:58] <ubotu> chris062689 kernfreak: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:59] <user1> !downlload
[17:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about downlload - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:59] <Totem> I am trying to intall Code::Blocks, which requires GTK+, which requires ATK, which requires GLIB. I Installed GLib, but when I try to configure atk, it says Glib isn't new enough. GTK+ also requires GLib, but it DOES recognize GLib as new enough. What's going one? I have the newest version
[17:59] <kernfreak> yes but to ban people lol
[17:59] <user1> !download
[17:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[17:59] <fdr>  Hello! I'm about to change the video card on my computer. It's going to change manufacturer and everything, so I guess X will need to be reconfigured and/or additional packages with the drivers installed. Once I get a terminal through ssh on that computer, how do I do that? Thanks!
[18:00] <user1> !download manager
[18:00] <frold> I use Ubuntu 7.10 how can I run XP and my Ubuntu without loosing any data from my ubuntu installation...
[18:00] <jagggy> when i run warsow, and i play for a while, my comp just crashes, ANYONE has an idea on howto fix?
[18:01] <user1> !download manager
[18:01] <user1> kget's resume support is not good. am i right? any better  dl manager for good resume support and for larg downloads?
[18:01] <Pici> user1: Please message the bot if you dont know if a factoid exists or not.
[18:01] <user1> Pici:  k
[18:01] <sanchinpin> what is the room for ubuntu 8.04??
[18:01] <Jack_Sparrow> kernfreak, He is in offtopic if you care to chat with him
[18:02] <bastid_raZor> sanchinpin; ubuntu+1
[18:02] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, do me a favor ?
[18:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Sure
[18:02] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  tell me what the umask is for   gconf-editor /storage/default_options/vfat ?
[18:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, you'd need to tell me where to find it.
[18:03]  * Pelo will never go beta again ,if he does, you have permission to shoot him 
[18:04] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  in gconf-editor,  under storage,  under default optons, under vfat ,  the umask=???
[18:04] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, make that under system > storage > defautl > vfat
[18:04] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec on phone
[18:05] <moya> I'd like to install a server with graphical GUI, do you recommend installing server iso and then the graphical packages or the other way ?
[18:05] <Odd-rationale> moya: the first
[18:06] <Jack_Sparrow> 077
[18:06] <kernfreak> Jack_Sparrow , dont need to talk to him, linux distros arent hard to find, just the "ban" thing, I got banned for saying rtfm
[18:06] <Pelo> moya, you'll the the base of the server to install the gui on top of
[18:06] <user1> Pelo:  kget's resume support is not good. am i right? any better  dl manager for good resume support and for larg downloads?
[18:06] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[18:06] <Pelo> user1,  no idea
[18:06] <user1> k
[18:06] <Pelo> user1, get torrents
[18:06] <Scunizi> After recording voice in Audacity and playing the entire track back.. Xorg cpu % goes to 80% and audacity to 97% of the cpu.. (hyperthreaded cpu).. anyone know why this is happening? or how to diagnose it?
[18:06] <_Belka_> âñåì äðàñòå
[18:06] <Jack_Sparrow> kernfreak, rtfm in other rooms may be fine.. and though I may want to say it.. we really really dont want that reputation
[18:07] <_Belka_> øî çà ïðèïåçäåíûé ó âàñ ÿçûê???
[18:07] <LjL> !ru
[18:07] <Crembo> help! I want to upgrade my version of miro, but synaptic is complaining that the package from miro's gutsy gibbon repo depends on libxine (<1.1.8). seeing as how I have libxine 1.1.10~gutsy1, that's a problem. is there a way I can force an installation of the newer miro package?
[18:07] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:07] <kernfreak> I see
[18:07] <moya> Odd-rationale: what metapackage then should I install to get a gnome desktop ?
[18:07] <khansa> Hi
[18:07] <Odd-rationale> moya: ubuntu-desktop
[18:07] <_Belka_> õàé
[18:08] <_Belka_> âèíäà ìàñò äàé
[18:08] <bya> hi
[18:08] <_Belka_> õàé
[18:08] <Odd-rationale> moya: Although i would go with xfce or *box if I were you
[18:08] <LjL> !ru | _Belka_
[18:08] <ubotu> _Belka_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:08] <bastid_raZor> didn't know a bunch of a's and e's with lines over them was russian
[18:08] <bya> Can anyone give me the french ubuntu location !
[18:08] <_Belka_> ÷¸?
[18:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr
[18:08] <bastid_raZor> !fr
[18:08] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:08] <_Belka_> øî òû ñêàççàë?
[18:08] <Pici> _Belka_: /j #ubuntu-ru
[18:08] <Pelo> definately not french
[18:08] <Don_Miguel> !gr
[18:08] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[18:08] <unop_> _Belka_, what language are you speaking?
[18:08] <jumpkic1> flash is broken again on amd64
[18:08] <moya> Odd-rationale: is not precisely for me so I'll go with the most window-look like desktop :)
[18:09] <jumpkic1> sigh
[18:09] <_Belka_> ukranian
[18:09] <LjL> someone want to guess more languages?
[18:09] <LjL> no, it's not greek
[18:09] <Odd-rationale> moya: ok :)
[18:09] <LjL> _Belka_: if you speak russian, i suggest joining #ubuntu-ru (although you should set up your client to use UTF-8)
[18:09] <LjL> _Belka_: or you can join #ubuntu-ua, although i'm not sure they give support
[18:10] <_Belka_> ok
[18:10] <Pelo> brb
[18:10] <ompaul> !uk
[18:10] <ubotu> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[18:10] <ompaul> woops
[18:11] <lartza_> i read that glxgears should run with thousands of fps but mine runs only 700-800?
[18:11] <lartza_> it was in discussion about software and direct rendering
[18:11] <bazhang> haha
[18:11] <lartza_> so do i have no direct rendering? only software rendering and how ot enable that?
[18:12] <lartza_> how do i enable direct rendering?
[18:12] <Jack_Sparrow> LjL, his IP comes back as Amsterdam anyhow
[18:12] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow, yet that didn't look like standard dutch to me :)
[18:12] <chtri> lartza_: see glxinfo for info if you have direct rendering enabled or not
[18:13] <lartza_> direct rendering: Yes
[18:13] <Jack_Sparrow> LjL, Agreed...  which is what made me think something was up..
[18:13] <lartza_> how is glxgears so slow then if the discussion is right
[18:13] <chtri> lartza_: what video card and cpu?
[18:13] <unop_> he did say ukrainian - although he could be a ukrainian in holland
[18:13] <chtri> his language was russian
[18:13] <lartza_> chtri: NVIDIA GeForece FX 5500 and Pentium 3 Coppermine 800mhz
[18:14] <lartza_> :P
[18:14] <bastid_raZor> lartza_; and with that powerhouse you expect what?
[18:14] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl  Need to get some paperwork done...
[18:14] <Jack_Sparrow> bastid_raZor, be nice...
[18:14] <lartza_> frets on fire to run smoothly
[18:15]  * bastid_raZor plays nice.
[18:15] <lartza_> well i think its almost solved now
[18:15] <chtri> lartza_: your system is slow, you should check some databases if your numbers are correct
[18:15] <lartza_> what numbers?
[18:15] <earmbrust> i don't think FoF is going to run "smooth", but it shouldn't run like molasses
[18:15] <chtri> 700-800
[18:15] <noodles12> after using kdenlive for the first time. my sound doesn't work anymore.
[18:15] <lartza_> 3966 frames in 5.0 seconds = 792.738 FPS
[18:15] <lartza_> 3903 frames in 5.0 seconds = 780.536 FPS
[18:15] <lartza_> 3863 frames in 5.0 seconds = 772.260 FPS
[18:16] <chtri> lartza_: and glxgears is not reliable, no one knows what is meaning of these numbers :D
[18:16] <lartza_> does enablindg desktop effects enable direct rendering and disabling disables it?
[18:16] <lartza_> why not?
[18:17] <chtri> cuz scene it renders have nothing to do with 3D graphics :D lol
[18:17] <lartza_> well i just gotta save some money for new motherboard and cpu, and yes it is 3d
[18:18] <chtri> try gears of war if you want to know what 3D mean :D
[18:18] <earmbrust> lartza_: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Glxgears_is_not_a_Benchmark
[18:18] <lartza_> yea! that would run with 800mhz cpu!
[18:18] <lartza_> :D
[18:19] <bazhang> my eeepc can run that ;]
[18:19] <lartza_> what cpu?
[18:19] <eth01> i think my amd phenom could too with 1gb ddr2 :/
[18:19] <bazhang> 900 mhz something
[18:19] <eth01> 16gb, even
[18:19] <LollinopiL> can I disable the CPU alarm ? ? ? ? it rings everytime I close an ODT document .....
[18:19] <LollinopiL> can I disable the CPU alarm ? ? ? ? it rings everytime I close an ODT document .....
[18:19] <saminthemiddle> hey everyone, I'm on the beta; it's pretty awesome IMHO
[18:19] <FloodBot2> LollinopiL: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:19] <LollinopiL> sorry
[18:20] <earmbrust> eth01: server?
[18:20] <bazhang> me points saminthemiddle to #ubuntu+1
[18:20] <eth01> earmbrust: no
[18:20] <lartza_> is there gtkperf in ubuntu?
[18:20] <saminthemiddle> bazhang: k thanks
[18:20] <earmbrust> why 16gb?
[18:21] <lartza_> is there gtkperf in ubuntu?
[18:21] <bazhang> thats bigger than my hdd
[18:21] <Pici> !ot
[18:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:21] <eth01> earmbrust: it's one of five here which i own.. and for what i actually do -- it's appropriate
[18:21] <Devil> how to run SSH
[18:21] <lartza_> well i g2g now, cya
[18:21] <tortus> was the "Share folder" dialog removed for nautilus in hardy?
[18:21] <Odd-rationale> !ssh | Devil
[18:21] <ubotu> Devil: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[18:21] <white_eagle> my computer detects that I have 2 screens connected and I don't
[18:22] <white_eagle> I know that because when I go to screen options
[18:22] <white_eagle> I can see a second screen properties and sometimes the background streches itself
[18:22] <Devil> but how to use SSH to connect my desktop?
[18:22] <XB23> where would ubuntus firewall rules be?
[18:22] <ajitam> hi how can I send automatically mail every week from ubuntu ?
[18:22] <white_eagle> don't get me wrong, it detects one other screen
[18:22] <Pici> !firewall > XB23 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:22] <earmbrust> Devil: you'd need an x server running on the remote machine, or you could use VNC
[18:22] <stefg> Devil: you need to install openssh-server
[18:22] <white_eagle> not 2 other screens besides this on my laptop
[18:23] <white_eagle> can I delete the second screen from my configuration?
[18:23] <Pici> !enter | white_eagle
[18:23] <ubotu> white_eagle: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:24] <white_eagle> ok sorry
[18:24] <Devil> so install openssh-server then run the ssh to connect my desktop?
[18:24] <earmbrust> iirc, you can disable the second screen from the display options
[18:24] <stefg> Devil: yup. you need your deskop's ip
[18:24] <eth01> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[18:24] <eth01> ifconfig to look at IP's and things
[18:24] <earmbrust> Devil: yes.  with gutsy all i had to do for a basic setup was install the ssh server, and use putty from a windows machone
[18:24] <eth01> ifconfig -a, even :)
[18:25] <earmbrust> does anyone run ubuntu to provide public shell access?
[18:25] <Devil> so just use :ssh-1<user name><desktop ip>?
[18:25] <stefg> Devil: so i'd recommend using a fixed ip for the desktop machine (no dhcp) . then you can put this into your /etc/hosts
[18:25] <khansa> #ubuntu-fr
[18:26] <SunRayCafe> what's the path for the default system icons? or isn't there one default location?
[18:26] <eth01> earmbrust: http://corp.virginmedia.com/eth01/freenode
[18:26] <tylerflick> stefg: are you talking about unison?
[18:27] <stefg> Devil: so either ssh 192.168.2.100 (e.g.) or if you've put that in the clients /etc/hosts file you can also use ssh <desktop-machine-name>
[18:27] <earmbrust> eth01: says the server isn't responding
[18:27] <XB23> guys whats this line mean inside the firewall
[18:27] <eth01> hmmm?
[18:27] <XB23> DROP       all  --  anywhere             anywhere
[18:27] <stefg> !ssh | devil
[18:27] <ubotu> devil: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[18:27] <earmbrust> eth01: Firefox can't find the server at corp.virginmedia.com.
[18:28] <eth01> earmbrust: ah it won't work for you, internal usage only
[18:28] <earmbrust> hehe
[18:28] <karimar> hola
[18:28] <Devil> use the desktop ip or machine name,yes?
[18:28] <karimar> Hi
[18:29] <earmbrust> i ask about the public shell access, because i'm trying to figure out what i need to do to secure my server a bit more.  i want to provide some acquaintances with access to the system
[18:29] <stefg> Devil: if you've no DNS running in your lan, you need to use the IP. But you can make an alias in the /etc/hostes file of the client, so you can use the name isntead of the ip
[18:29] <JMS> hello. i need help getting my wireless card up in Hardy
[18:29] <JMS> any one can help?
[18:29] <erUSUL> !wifi | JMS
[18:29] <ubotu> JMS: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:30] <JMS> thank you
[18:30] <Devil> ok got it
[18:30] <Pici> JMS: Further questions should be directed to #ubuntu+1 ;)
[18:30] <karimar> halguen habla español?
[18:30] <erUSUL> !es | karimar
[18:30] <ubotu> karimar: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:31] <karimar> gracias
[18:31] <erUSUL> karimar: /join #ubuntu-es
[18:32] <shinoj> ssh
[18:32] <shinoj>  gprs| shinoj
[18:32] <shinoj> gprs | shinoj
[18:36] <karimar> How  can I configure for ubuntu es
[18:36] <michalski> karimar: explain?
[18:36] <Pici> karimar: type:/join #ubuntu-es
[18:36] <clarezoe> anyone uses the Fon wifi router?
[18:37] <r_heliman> Helllo
[18:37] <platyhelminth> Hi, I have switched to a low resolution mode by mistake. Now i cant go in "systeme" to come back in higher resolution . how can i return in higher resolution ?
[18:37] <Gman99999> hey is there anyone out there that knows how to change the boot splash?
[18:37] <michalski> r_heliman: hi
[18:37] <r_heliman> I have short quick question,, what is the command to copy a screan identical on an external monitor? I now have "leftof"  what should I but there now?
[18:37] <Gman99999> I've been trying to figure it out but i can't seem to get it right
[18:37] <usser> Gman99999, sure just install startupmanager
[18:37] <chtri> platyhelminth: ctrl+alt+"numpad+"
[18:38] <Gman99999> I tired that, that program didnt do anything
[18:38] <freepenguin> hello
[18:38] <platyhelminth> chtri : doesnt work
[18:38] <usser> Gman99999, define didnt do?
[18:38] <erUSUL> !usplash | Gman99999
[18:38] <ubotu> Gman99999: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[18:38] <r_heliman> I have short quick question,, what is the command to copy a screan identical on an external monitor? I am in the xorg.conf.. I now have "leftof"  what should I but there now?
[18:38] <michalski> r_heliman: so you want to have your external monitor/screen show the same thing as your primary one?
[18:38] <r_heliman> YES
[18:39] <r_heliman> @ michalski yes
[18:39] <michalski> r_heliman: please dont ask questions more than once
[18:39] <stefg> !spash | Gman99999
[18:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:39] <stefg> !splash | Gman99999
[18:39] <platyhelminth> Can i choos resolution from terminal ??
[18:39] <ubotu> Gman99999: To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[18:39] <stefg> !usplash | Gman99999
[18:39] <usser> Gman99999, works fine for me theres a couple of usplash-theme packages in repos and startupmanager works fine with those
[18:39] <ubotu> Gman99999: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[18:39] <platyhelminth> Can i select a new resolution from terminal ??
[18:39] <Gman99999> does it load at boot time?
[18:39] <frold> I use Ubuntu 7.10 how can I run XP and my Ubuntu without loosing any data from my ubuntu installation...
[18:39] <michalski> r_hellman: System--->Administration--->Screens and Graphics
[18:40] <simotempler> hi there - if I have a program "skypemate" made for FC3 only anyway I can convert that to work with Ubuntu gusty?
[18:40] <platyhelminth> I cant go in systeme
[18:40] <platyhelminth> due to low resolution
[18:40] <usser> frold, one option is to run windows in a virtual machine
[18:40] <Gman99999> I want to load this bootsplash http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/tuxOSX+-+gensplash?content=49450
[18:40] <usser> !vmware
[18:40] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[18:40] <StevenX> hello room. what program would you recommend for dealing with par2 files?
[18:40] <Gman99999> but i dont know how exactly
[18:40] <michalski> r_hellman: Under screen #2, mark it as a secondary screen, and have it mirror default screen
[18:40] <usser> !vmware-server
[18:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmware-server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:40] <stefg> frold: if it's not for gaming and you have relatively recent machine i'd recommend using a virtualizer
[18:41] <Gman99999> is there a kde bootsplash changer?
[18:41] <simotempler> anyone??
[18:41] <stefg> !virtualizers | frold
[18:41] <ubotu> frold: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[18:41] <platyhelminth> Can i select a new resolution from terminal ??
[18:41] <stefg> !fixres | platyhelminth
[18:41] <ubotu> platyhelminth: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:41] <frold> stefg: and usser thank you:D
[18:42] <simotempler>  hi anyone - if I have a program "skypemate" made for FC3 only anyway I can convert that to work with Ubuntu gusty? Or get it back to source and recompile?
[18:43] <fabianv> Hi
[18:43] <fabianv> I was wondering if someone can help me
[18:43] <stefg> !aline | simotempler
[18:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aline - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:43] <stefg> !alien | simotempler
[18:43] <ubotu> simotempler: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[18:43] <michalski> !hi | fabianv
[18:43] <ubotu> fabianv: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[18:43] <Gman99999> can anyone tell me why strigi sucks so fing bad its not even funny, i cant even type in the damn thing
[18:43] <michalski> !ask | fabianv
[18:43] <ubotu> fabianv: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:43] <usser> platyhelminth, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:43] <simotempler> dangerous?
[18:43] <simotempler> how dangerous
[18:43] <Gman99999> I cant find any support documents to fix the strigi
[18:44] <usser> Gman99999, strigi is fubar
[18:44] <usser> Gman99999, use tracker of beagle
[18:44] <Gman99999> usser that doesnt mean anything to me, can you please define further?
[18:44] <fabianv> This is the second time I installed ubuntu and this time im going to try and get my ATI card working. Has anyone succesfully got a Radeon Xpress200m running with full functionality on ubuntu
[18:44] <Gman99999> ok will do
[18:44] <Pici> simotempler: It can install things in the wrong places/overwrite things, rpm and deb are not fully compatible with each other.
[18:44] <Gnea> fabianv: have you read the ATI docs for ubuntu?
[18:44] <Gman99999> Im just wondering why its broken?  I cant even type a word in without it erasing what i type etc
[18:44] <usser> Gman99999, strigi never worked properly i'd say its not even beta and its a mistery to me how it made it into mainstream distribution
[18:45] <Alan_M> Fully Pici? i thought they werent.
[18:45] <fabianv> Yes, 2 months ago I went through the sources thoroughly
[18:45] <Pici> simotempler: I personally have not had problems with it, but your mileage may vary.
[18:45] <Gman99999> wtf
[18:45] <michalski> !wtf | Gman99999
[18:45] <ubotu> Gman99999: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[18:45] <stefg> simotempler: it might overwrite libs or do stupid things ... so ususally with high level stuff it's ok to use, but compiling from source and using at least checkinstall to generate a .deb is surely better (but more work)
[18:45] <Pici> Alan_M: not fully compatibile.
[18:45] <tenpaiyomi> I have a users home folder that I need to be accessible by all other users on the system.  How would I go about doing something like that?
[18:45] <simotempler> i think the main prob is the driver uses some usb kernel libs for an older version will this convert them do you think
[18:45] <brendan__> packages.ubuntu.com seems to be down
[18:45] <usser> tenpaiyomi, accessible as in writable?
[18:45] <Gnea> fabianv: well, there's 3 drivers you can try out - vesa will obviously work but for 2d, ati or radeon should get 3d to work
[18:46] <chazco> Hi... just noticed RealPlayer 11 has been released for Linux... anyone using this on Gusty? Does it work okay?
[18:46] <Gnea> chazco: works fine here
[18:46] <simotempler> its to control a usb audio skype handset
[18:46] <usser> Gman99999, try tracker
[18:46] <fabianv> vesa, restricted are only acceptable.. but they dont give full support
[18:46] <Alan_M> Whats the difference between the DVD version of ubuntu and the cd version? Does the dvd include the main and universe repositories or something?
[18:46] <Gnea> chazco: btw, realplayer 11 == helix
[18:46] <chazco> Gnea - Defiantly 11, not 10?
[18:46] <chazco> Yep,  i know, but still an update
[18:46] <Gman99999> usser which is better tracker or beagle?
[18:46] <Odd-rationale> Alan_M: the dvd has the desktop, alternative and server cd all in one
[18:46] <michalski> Alan_M DVD is for DVD, CD is for CD
[18:46] <Gnea> Alan_M: more cds, less dvds holding the same thing
[18:47] <mikeyfbi> hey everyone...this is my first time in IRC chat O_o...I'm looking for help with "Dependency not satisfiable: libcairo2"
[18:47] <mikeyfbi> where should i go
[18:47] <michalski> alan_M: (what  odd-rationale said :P)
[18:47] <usser> Gman99999, i prefer tracker
[18:47] <Alan_M> michaelski, i kinda figured that out on my own thank ya :)
[18:47] <Gnea> mikeyfbi: for what package?
[18:47] <tenpaiyomi> usser: Well, to explain, the user is the owner of some git repositories.  It works fine for remote git actions, however when attempting to doing commands on the system, it says it can't chdir to the folder
[18:47] <mikeyfbi> libcairo2
[18:47] <mikeyfbi> or the .deb?
[18:47] <Alan_M> Odd-rationale, so no more having to burn 3 different cd's just for what i need? WOOHOO!
[18:47] <Arelis> Hello, everyone. My parents want to give me a new PC for my birthday. I work in Ubuntu all the time. What is the most compatible hardware i can get for ubuntu? things like processor, videocard, etcetera
[18:47] <Alan_M> :)
[18:47] <Gnea> mikeyfbi: but what did you install that needs libcairo2?
[18:48] <magnetron> Arelis: you should get a computer with ubuntu preinstalled
[18:48] <Odd-rationale> Alan_M: yeah but downloading that thing could take a lot of time...
[18:48] <mmm4m5m> Help: can't find bash tutorial for dummies. I am trying to understand if statements, when to use '[' or '[['. Most tutorials are showing just few examples. 'man bash' is not exactly for dummies (no examples). if you have URL of such tutorial, please please.
[18:48] <mikeyfbi> Gnea: Linux Whiteboard
[18:48] <Odd-rationale> Alan_M: and many old pc don't have a dvd drive...
[18:48] <Alan_M> Odd-rationale, already done, bittorrented it from canonicals cdimage site ;)
[18:48] <eth01> Arelis: anything will work
[18:48] <eth01> recent stuff will.
[18:48] <eth01> :-)
[18:48] <Arelis> eth01: no it will not. ATI, for example, sucks on linux
[18:48] <Alan_M> Odd-rationale, its my pc, i know what im doing and its a new computer :)
[18:48] <Odd-rationale> mmm4m5m: try www.linuxcommand.org
[18:48] <Arelis> eth01: i need ultra-compatible hardware
[18:49] <Gman99999> usser just tried tracker, there's no options to index files or anything like that and it didn't even find the files that are on my desktop
[18:49] <mmm4m5m> Odd-rationale: 10x
[18:49] <eth01> Arelis: this isn't #lets-talk-about-arelis
[18:49] <Alan_M> Thanks guys, just wanted input, love what ya do as always ;)
[18:49] <usser> tenpaiyomi, hm can you pastebin the results of ls -l on that directory
[18:49] <Arelis> eth01: ..was that question about me, then?
[18:50] <vix85> I have a question. Whats the easiest way to install skype? Im using Ubuntu 8.04 beta amd64 platform.
[18:50] <tenpaiyomi> usser: sec
[18:50] <erUSUL> !skype
[18:50] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[18:50] <michalski> vix85 go to synaptics and install it from there
[18:50] <coach_z> what is the install size of ubuntu, i cannot find it on the website
[18:50] <tenpaiyomi> usser: http://pastebin.com/d1d2e551b
[18:51] <mikeyfbi> Gnea: any ideas? :)
[18:51] <michalski> coach_z: approx 3gb, maybe less
[18:51] <usser> Gman99999, tracker-preferences should bring up the settings and trackerd & starts the indexer
[18:51] <vix85> michalski, I cant find skype in synaptic.
[18:51] <michalski> coach_z: certainly not more than 5gb
[18:51] <vix85> erUSUL, on that page its just for ubuntu 7.10, it will work same in 8.04 ?
[18:52] <coach_z> michalski: so maybe going with xubuntu which appears to be around 1.5gig should be better because i am currently running off a 4Gig flash drive
[18:52] <Ssam`> dude...what on earth does an alternative Cd download from the net its been like 3 hours
[18:52] <erUSUL> vix85: i expect that but better ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:52] <erUSUL> !hardy | vix85
[18:52] <ubotu> vix85: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:52] <vix85> oh okay.
[18:52] <usser> tenpaiyomi, hm what about ls -l on /home/git/repositories
[18:53] <michalski> coach_z: that maybe a better idea :) and then atleast you would have room for files/packages
[18:53] <Gman99999> usser what do you type in to get it to index I tried trackerd and it gave me an error warning message
[18:53] <coach_z> michalski: thank you
[18:53] <michalski> np
[18:53] <michalski> * no problem
[18:53] <usser> Gman99999, what exactly did it say?
[18:53] <tenpaiyomi> usser: http://pastebin.com/d60990442
[18:53] <michalski> vix85: you need to add the skype repository
[18:53] <warri> do you think someone can help me with installing software, i tried to compile xchat-2.8.2 and i keep getting an error
[18:54] <Ssam`>  dude...what on earth does an alternative Cd download from the net its been like 3 hours
[18:54] <IndyGunFreak> warri: install xchat from the repositories
[18:54] <vix85> michalski, yes.. do u know if there is a skype repository for amd64 ?
[18:54] <IndyGunFreak> Ssam`: shouldn't take that long, you've probably suffered some sort of failure
[18:54] <usser> tenpaiyomi, ah i see, ok its a bit of a security issue but if all your users are trusted then u can do
[18:54] <Gman99999> usser it bascially gave me the about info about the tracker program when i typed in trackerd
[18:54] <Starnestommy> warri: I think 2.8.4 is already in the repositories
[18:54] <warri> IndyGunFreak:  how do i do that
[18:54] <MatBoy> does someone know a good tool to sync evolution with a nokia phone ?
[18:54] <Ssam`> nope i am at 12 kb/s
[18:54] <warri> i'm 100% newb to linux
[18:54] <tenpaiyomi> usser: It's a private server that I access only remotely
[18:54] <Ssam`> but how i prevent it
[18:55] <Ssam`> the fiels the same size as a gui installer
[18:55] <Ssam`> jeez
[18:55] <IndyGunFreak> warri: system/admin/synaptic package manager, search for xchat right click, mark for install
[18:55] <Ssam`> files*
[18:55] <Gman99999> usser it said tracker daemon is already running
[18:55] <warri> all i did was install it on my laptop, Dual booted, so i can learn it.
[18:55] <IndyGunFreak> warri: just make sure you don't install xchat-gnome... xchat and xchat-gnome are different
[18:55] <knoppix_> hi guys
[18:55] <usser> tenpaiyomi, chmod -R a+rx /home/git
[18:55] <usser> Gman99999, so it should be fine
[18:55] <michalski> vix85: deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[18:55] <michalski> thats the only one you need :)
[18:55] <Gnea> mikeyfbi: if you open a terminal window and type this in : sudo apt-get install libcairo2  does it say anything else?
[18:55] <usser> vix85, alternatively skype is available from medibuntu repository
[18:56] <Gman99999> usser it cant even find firefox
[18:56] <albuntu> i know its a stupid question but can anyone tell me what command do i have to use in konversation to identify my nick automatically
[18:56] <warri> xchat isnt in my repository
[18:56] <usser> Gman99999, ok tell can u run tracker-applet ?
[18:56] <mikeyfbi> Gnea: libcairo2 is already the newest version.
[18:56] <frold>  !VirtualBox
[18:56] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[18:56] <IndyGunFreak> warri: system/admin/software sources
[18:56] <Starnestommy> warri: enable the universe repository in system > administration > software sources
[18:56] <Gnea> mikeyfbi: then it's installed
[18:56] <frold> !VMWare
[18:56] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[18:56] <tenpaiyomi> usser: That worked perfectly.  Thank you very much
[18:57] <Gman99999> usser command not found
[18:57] <warri> IndyGunFreak:  ahh not packages
[18:57] <usser> tenpaiyomi, no problem
[18:57] <mikeyfbi> Gnea: hmm...i figured...i even tried reinstalling it...but i still get the same dependency error.
[18:57] <albuntu> !konversation
[18:57] <IndyGunFreak> warri: right click everything on the first tab.
[18:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:57] <Surfz> does any1 knows how to break a win2k password using ubuntu? i forgot my user login
[18:57] <IndyGunFreak> warri: i mean click, not right cilck, sorry
[18:57] <mikeyfbi> Gnea: I just downloaded a previous .deb of the same program and it gave me the same error but for libc6...which is also installed
[18:57] <warri> yea i got you
[18:58] <usser> Gman99999, bah i use hardy and it has a nice config applet
[18:58] <IndyGunFreak> warri: ok, after that, close it, it will ask to reload your sources, do that, then go back to synaptic, and search for xchat again
[18:58] <albuntu> Surfz: try to enter in safe mode using the administrator user and change it
[18:58] <warri> now check again in packages or can i use sudo app-get xchat-2.8.2
[18:58] <Gnea> mikeyfbi: where are you installing whiteboard from?
[18:58] <Starnestommy> warri: it's sudo apt-get install xchat
[18:58] <IndyGunFreak> warri: well, leave the version off
[18:58] <IndyGunFreak> sudo apt-get install xchat
[18:58] <Surfz> albuntu, i tried it already doesnt work
[18:58] <warri> ahh
[18:58] <usser> Gman99999, sorry i just dont have access to gutsy cant really tell where to look
[18:58] <albuntu> Surfz: than sorry. no idea
[18:58] <warri> now with the sources reloaded that should work right?
[18:58] <stwange> how do I force a reboot remotely, but make sure the box will login again?
[18:58] <Surfz> administrator seems to be disabled
[18:59] <Gman99999> its ok Im going to disable it and call it garbage for now
[18:59] <IndyGunFreak> warri: it should
[18:59] <Gman99999> usser Im going to try beagle for the meantime
[18:59] <usser> Gman99999, try beagle
[18:59] <usser> Gman99999, yea
[18:59] <albuntu> Surfz: try to google it
[18:59] <tanubis> stwange you want it to auto login to a certain account, or just come back up and prompt for login?
[18:59] <warri> sweet ty, now, when i installed i didnt have the security,ubuntu.com updates, how can i get those also?
[18:59] <stwange> tanubis, login to a certain account
[19:00] <Surfz> the weird part is i scanned the sam hive and it shows only 2 users admin and guest but my user is not there
[19:00] <IndyGunFreak> warri: did you install w/o a internet connection?
[19:00] <warri> yea
[19:00] <stwange> tanubis only because the crontab to bring the ssh tunnel back up is under that user, otherwise I couldn't care less if it logged in again
[19:00] <albuntu> i know its a stupid question but can anyone tell me what command do i have to use in konversation to identify my nick automatically ?
[19:00] <IndyGunFreak> warri: ok, system/admin/software sources
[19:00] <IndyGunFreak> click the updates tab.
[19:00] <warri> my dorm room didnt have wireless, and i was in the middle of Broadcasting on my desktop.
[19:00] <unop> Surfz, you can use the administrator to reset a user's password -- ask about this in #windows
[19:01] <Starnestommy> albuntu: put your nickserv password in the server password field in your client's settings
[19:01] <frikipedista3877> hola
[19:01] <warri> check everything... i assume
[19:01] <tanubis> stwange go to system - administration - login window, go to security tab, and go enable automatic login for a certain user
[19:01] <IndyGunFreak> warri: on the update tab, click important security updatees, and recommended updates.. i wouldn't recommend the pre-release or unsupported
[19:01] <mikeyfbi> Gnea: http://code.google.com/p/linux-whiteboard/downloads/list
[19:01] <stwange> tanubis - I don't have X, do you know how to do it through bash?
[19:01] <tanubis> stwange let me check
[19:01] <warri> kk
[19:01] <Surfz> albuntu, on setting u should find something like on connect commands type in /msg nickserv identify pass
[19:01] <kleppari> hi, I changed the workspace switcher to have five workspaces, however, I cannot assign keyboard shortcuts to more than two in the keyboard shortcuts app.
[19:01] <IndyGunFreak> warri: then close, and i think you'll ahve to reload again, then in a few minutes, update notifier will notify you you have updates
[19:02] <michalski> surfz: its in ##windows
[19:02] <albuntu> Starnestommy: do i have to put just the pass ? what about the server field ?
[19:02] <kleppari> does anyone have any tips?
[19:02] <usser> stwange, why not install crontab for root it'll run even without any users logged in
[19:02] <albuntu> Surfz: i tried that but the pass field is in the right side
[19:02] <Starnestommy> albuntu: just the password in the "server password" field
[19:02] <frikipedista3877> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:02] <r_heliman> Hello,, it did not work
[19:02] <stwange> usser are you *sure*? I trust you, it's just that if I reboot and it doesn't... well I have lost the box
[19:02] <albuntu> Starnestommy: thanks . ill try that now
[19:02] <Surfz> unop, windows have less support then linux and i know more about linux so i want to find the way tru linux
[19:02] <michalski> !hi | frikipedista3877
[19:02] <ubotu> frikipedista3877: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[19:02] <usser> stwange, uhhh bummer, i dont wanna be responsible for that
[19:03] <usser> stwange, :P
[19:03] <PwnageTV|warri`z> sweet xchat works now
[19:03] <PwnageTV|warri`z> thank you very much
[19:03] <frikipedista3877> hi ubotu
[19:03] <usser> stwange, hang on i'll check it
[19:03] <bya> #ubuntu-fr
[19:03] <unop> Surfz, this really is not a ubuntu question, it's not really related to linux either -- it is also offtopic
[19:04] <albuntu> Starnestommy: didnt worked
[19:04] <PwnageTV|warri`z> however, when i tried to unpackage it myself i kept getting an error, i tried to tar -xjvf xchat-2.8.2.tar.bz2 and kept getting a child:2 error
[19:04] <Ssam`> aww man
[19:04] <IndyGunFreak> PwnageTV|warri`z: why are you trying to compile it?.. ist in the repositories
[19:04] <Ssam`> how can stop the alternative Cd from downlaoding from the internet
[19:04] <Ssam`> ?
[19:04] <Surfz> unop, actually it is since the tools are in the distro its just need some1 who has worked with it
[19:04] <d0lphin_n0el> http://pliniotorres.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/linuxgirl.jpg that one woman sexy and smart and use linux lol :)
[19:04] <Ssam`> Good thing i installed on the vnox first
[19:04] <usser> stwange, i'll log out for a sec see if runs brb
[19:04] <unop> d0lphin_n0el, offtopic
[19:05] <PwnageTV|warri`z> IndyGunFreak,  i already installed it and it works
[19:05] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, ok
[19:05] <PwnageTV|warri`z> i just want to know for future reference why it wasnt working
[19:05] <g[r]eek> Hi guys - I am installing Ubuntu using the alternate cd text intallation - I am setting up RAID 1. during the MD setup phase, it asks me how many spare devices I want for the RAID1 array. What are these spare devices?
[19:05] <Gman99999> usser hey is it possible to install this bootsplash theme for ubuntu or is it not compatible? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=49450&forumpage=0
[19:05] <IndyGunFreak> PwnageTV|warri`z: because you were trying to compile software, and frankly, your new so thats not a good idea just yet.. stick with whats in the repositories
[19:05] <origine> :|
[19:06] <tanubis> stwange : http://www.linfo.org/automatic_login.html - scroll down to the bottom, it's got a guide for setting it up via command line
[19:06] <stwange> thanks tanubis :)
[19:06] <PwnageTV|warri`z> IndyGunFreak,  okay.  do you suggest a place to go to learn the terminal language?
[19:06] <IndyGunFreak> !compile | PwnageTV|warri`z
[19:06] <ubotu> PwnageTV|warri`z: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[19:06] <Shii> hi all. the add/remove program is telling me "the list of applications is not available" over and over
[19:06] <Gnea> mikeyfbi: not sure :(
[19:07] <Gnea> mikeyfbi: perhaps someone else in here has a WII that has tried it out
[19:08] <usser> stwange, yep it works
[19:08] <Shii> ah, i had to go to "preferences". what a confusing message.
[19:08] <stwange> sweet thanks usser, you know the command offhand to reboot?
[19:08] <mikeyfbi> Has anyone here tried the LinuxWhiteboard program (using a Wii remote and LED as an interactive whiteboard on your monitor)
[19:08] <usser> stwange, hang on
[19:08] <mikeyfbi> i'm having trouble installing the .deb for it! :)
[19:09] <usser> stwange, just how u installed crontab?
[19:09] <usser> stwange, sudo crontab -e
[19:09] <foxrai> hello
[19:09] <usser> stwange, right?
[19:09] <stwange> usser yeah: sudo crontab -l shows it
[19:09] <usser> stwange, ok
[19:09] <PwnageTV|warri`z> ty
[19:09] <foxrai> me has arrived
[19:09]  * foxrai has arrived
[19:09] <foxrai> cool
[19:09] <usser> stwange, sudo reboot will do
[19:09] <g[r]eek> Hi guys - I am installing Ubuntu using the alternate cd text intallation - I am setting up RAID 1. during the MD setup phase, it asks me how many spare devices I want for the RAID1 array. What are these spare devices?
[19:09] <akafurious> hello everyone
[19:10] <g[r]eek> Are they the same as hot spares?
[19:10] <stwange> ok fingers crossed usser :)
[19:10] <usser> stwange, haha nah it'll work
[19:10] <g[r]eek> Where I leave a 3rd "spare" drive connected, wich automatically takes over from a failed drive in the active 2-drive array?
[19:10] <Gnea> g[r]eek: are you sure you want to setup a software raid instead of a hardware raid?
[19:10] <Jack_Sparrow> I cant find my link for the third DVD of the Gutsy Repositories.  Please tell me someone else has it available
[19:10] <usser> stwange, unless syntax is messed up or something
[19:10] <g[r]eek> gnea: Yeah.
[19:10] <g[r]eek> Gnea: Not a busy machine.
[19:11] <Gnea> g[r]eek: kewl. yeah, iirc, those would be spare drives that could be contributed to the array
[19:11] <stwange> usser yeah it's a bash script that is used to running as not root. I checked it over and it looked ok (ie. all the paths were fully formed etc.), but I guess there's only one way to find out for sure
[19:11] <bieb> I dont believe you can have a hot spare in a RAID1
[19:12] <g[r]eek> Gnea: I don't need a hot spare. But I have purchased a 3rd hard drive for off-site backups just in case. I was hoping I could "catch up" my off-site backed up data by simply plugging in the 3rd hard drive once a week and mirroring the active drives. Is this possible?
[19:12] <usser> stwange, heh, cant u ssh to that machine why "lost it"?
[19:12] <shinoj> hi
[19:12] <badday> hi
[19:12] <bieb> g[r]eek: what are you gonna use for backup??
[19:12] <g[r]eek> bieb: The 3rd off-site hard drive in case of fire or theft.
[19:12] <Gnea> g[r]eek: sure, just don't include it in the array and the OS should see it as a separate drive upon the final installation
[19:13] <sid> hello
[19:13] <g[r]eek> Gnea: Ok but then can I at a later stage unplug one of the active drives, plug in the dedicated offsite drive, build a mirror of the data on that, and then take it back out again?
[19:13] <sid> does anyone know if geforce 7200 GS will work fine with Ubuntu (+3d efects)
[19:13] <bieb> g[r]eek.. I was wondering if you were going to build a PC for that drive that is offsite.. then you could have used rsync or the rsnapshot project to backup
[19:14] <sid> also does 7.10 support AHIC?
[19:14] <XB23> why uploading via sftp - would that slow wget down as well?
[19:14] <Gnea> g[r]eek: i don't see why not, as long as you follow the MD spec
[19:14] <boywholinuxed> hi
[19:14] <boywholinuxed> anyone there?
[19:14] <Gnea> !anyone
[19:14] <g[r]eek> bieb: Nah it's just a stand-along offsite drive for offsite backup. Nothing fancy. For quick swap out of a failed drive on the active RAID 1 array too
[19:14] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[19:14] <bieb> nope
[19:14] <g[r]eek> Gnea: Ok cool.
[19:15] <boywholinuxed> bye
[19:15] <g[r]eek> Gnea: I could just export the database and copy over the file system - but it would be nice if I could build a mirror on the offsite drive once a week. It would make the swapping out of a failed drive super quick
[19:15] <stwange> usser - it's behind a NAT, so I have to create a reverse tunnel from it to get in, the bash script checks for the tunnel every minute and creates a new one if it's gone down
[19:15] <bieb> Gnea: wont breaking and recreating the mirror once a week be kinda dangerous?
[19:15] <Blinny> I need to update the version of a single module in my generic kernel. Do I need to recompile an entire new kernel, or can I simply compile the module I need against the current kernel source?
[19:15] <usser> stwange, oh i see
[19:16] <Gnea> g[r]eek: i guess it depends on how you want to perform the weekly backup
[19:16] <g[r]eek> bieb, Gnea - I was kinda hoping I could simply take out the one active drive and put in the offsite drive, build a mirror on that and swap them again
[19:16] <stwange> usser, it's back up :) thanks. Rebooting didn't solve the issue though.
[19:16] <Gnea> g[r]eek: like bieb said, rsync would be the perfect option
[19:16] <g[r]eek> Gnea: Painlessly! :)
[19:16] <mmm4m5m> Question: Please tell me in bash script, what is difference between 'if [[ ... ]];' and 'if [ ... ];' ?
[19:16] <Gnea> g[r]eek: yeah :)
[19:16] <bieb> Painlessly??? ummmmm
[19:16] <bieb> LOL
[19:16] <g[r]eek> What does rsync do in a nutshell?
[19:16] <Gnea> hehehe
[19:16] <agentc0re> mmm4m5m: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/abs-guide.html
[19:16] <bieb> syncronizes the "Changed" data
[19:17] <usser> stwange, what was the issue?
[19:17] <sriramoman> how do i install gambas on ubuntu gutsy amd64?
[19:17] <Gnea> g[r]eek: it's a program that fascilitates backup procedures, and has all of the options that windows backup has (incremental, full, etc), but with the added functionality that windows backup lacks (like doing it over the network and over ssh)
[19:17] <Shii> hey everyone, i've got a monitor resolution problem
[19:17] <stwange> usser really really slow internet, I mean it went from 500kb/s download to 20 if I was lucky, and it's even slow to type on it over ssh. I didn't actually think reboot would solve it, but it was worth a try
[19:17] <g[r]eek> Here is another way to ask my question. I have a RAID 1 with two mirrored drives. One of the drives fails. I get a new drive and take out the failed one. What must I do to get this new drive to mirror the existing working drive?
[19:18] <minimec> Blinny: Compiling the module should do... move the old module out of tthe modules directory
[19:18] <mmm4m5m> agentc0re: 10x :)
[19:18] <bieb> g[r]eek: if you have a PC of any sort laying around.. I would load Ubuntu and rsnapshot.. it is wicked fast after the first backup... rsnapshot.org
[19:18] <Gnea> g[r]eek: i do believe the RAID docs explain that :)
[19:18] <Gnea> !raid | g[r]eek
[19:18] <ubotu> g[r]eek: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[19:18] <joncalhoun> Hey, I was wondering if there was any sort of way to make Ventrilo 3 work for Ubuntu. If you install it via wine it tends to have problems.
[19:18] <bieb> and rsnapshot is in the Ubuntu repositories
[19:18] <jonathan_> JMS
[19:18] <tushyd> is it easy to install pulseaudio in gutsy?
[19:18] <agentc0re> I recommend that you use LVM raid over fakeraid.
[19:18] <usser> stwange, oh well
[19:19] <noodlesgc> sriramoman try sudo apt-get install gambas
[19:19] <agentc0re> if your MB fails, you're dead in the water until you get that same exact board.
[19:19] <Gnea> g[r]eek: i second bieb's suggestion again ;)
[19:19] <g[r]eek> Eek I'd prefer to avoid those technical details. I am simply setting up RAID during the installer phase
[19:19] <g[r]eek> rnsanpshot
[19:19] <agentc0re> if you do a LVM raid, you get a new MB reinstall and resetup LVM raid and all your stuff is there.
[19:19] <minimec> tushyd: there is a ubuntu wiki for it in the internet. Should be easy to find...
[19:19] <saminthemiddle> does anyone know how to convince Gnome to use a certain display as the default monitor?
[19:19] <Spasterix> WHO WANT BEST SHELL ACCOUNT
[19:19] <Spasterix> WHO WANT BEST SHELL ACCOUNT
[19:19] <saminthemiddle> or better yet, how to get the panels to show on all monitors?
[19:19] <Gnea> !caps | Spasterix
[19:19] <stwange> usser can you suggest anything else I could try? I've tried ifconfig eth0 down and up, dhclient eth0, and now a reboot
[19:19] <mmm4m5m> agentc0re: thanks lot, it is nice page
[19:19] <dizzyd87> hey everyone
[19:19] <ubotu> Spasterix: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[19:20] <tushyd> minimec, thanks
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[19:20] <g[r]eek> lol
[19:20] <SlicerDicer> good gawd
[19:20] <frold> !VMWare
[19:20] <tanubis> stwange what exactly is happening with your internet?
[19:20] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[19:20] <badday> aa spam
[19:20] <frold> !Cedega
[19:20] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[19:20] <Gnea> like that wasn't seen coming ;)
[19:20] <bieb> g[r]eek: rsnapshot.org   and ssshhhhhh {you can even back up windoze boxes with rsnapshot and cwrsync on the win machine}
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[19:20]  * Gnea hands Jack_Sparrow a beer
[19:21] <SlicerDicer> ruhrogh peoples be angry
[19:21] <usser> stwange, not really it can be slow for various reasons, i'd use something like wireshark to see whats going on
[19:21]  * IndyGunFreak didn't know Jack_Sparrow was an OP now.. Congrats
[19:21] <SlicerDicer> Gnea: thats what happens when your spastic I guess?
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> HOwdy Indy
[19:21] <Gnea> SlicerDicer: lol
[19:21] <g[r]eek> Thanks for your help guys!!
[19:21] <g[r]eek> Cheers
[19:21] <bieb> g[r]eek.. np
[19:21] <Gnea> g[r]eek: good luck and have fun :)
[19:21] <stwange> tanubis it's gone ridiculously slow on that network. To the point where I get slow response from typing over ssh - it's gone from 300-1000kb/s download to 20. It's possible it's the network, but I thought I'd make sure it wasn't the box
[19:22] <IndyGunFreak> I go for a couple weeks and look what happens
[19:22] <noodlesgc> stwange are you using wireless
[19:22] <Gnea> IndyGunFreak: yes, we're still here.
[19:22] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[19:22] <Gnea> ;)
[19:22] <stwange> noodlesgc no, wired eth0
[19:22] <noodlesgc> stwange ok nvm
[19:23] <tanubis> stwange well, I'd definately check wireshark like usser said.  Then you can see if something is eating the network resources...  Is it hooked up over wire or wifi?
[19:24] <stwange> tanubis wired
[19:24] <Bobleb> dagrut?
[19:24] <frold> whats the name of Ubuntu 7.10? (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy)
[19:24] <noodles12> is there a way to restart the sound system in ubuntu?
[19:24] <Bobleb> ya un dagrut dans le coin?
[19:24] <tanubis> stwange yeah, noticed after I asked.  It's most likely something on the network then.
[19:24] <Flannel> frold: 7.10 is codenamed gutsy
[19:25] <Shiba> I'm trying to resolve an automount on ubuntu 6.10 (both 64-bit and 32-bit).  I have an NFS share that is correctly exporting /home, and automounts are working for user accounts at login.  However, for directories not associated with user logins automount fails: "automount [pid]: failed to mount /home/dir"
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !find vmware
[19:25] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-video-vmware
[19:25] <bartmon> Hey, guys! I have a problem. Because of a a hard shutdown my ext3 file system got corrupted and after running fsck on it I have at least one corrupt file - /var/lib/dpkg/status. Because dpkg can't parse it I can't upgrade my system or install any new software! Any ideas how to restore this file?
[19:25] <noodlesgc> de | Bobleb
[19:25] <noodlesgc> !de | Bobleb
[19:25] <ubotu> Bobleb: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[19:25] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[19:25] <erUSUL> bartmon: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+question/12093
[19:25] <Shiba> bartmon: reboot using the Ubuntu recovery CD and do a full (deep) fsck on your filesystem
[19:26] <PwnageTV|warri`z> while trying to install gdesklets-data (yea i want some eyecandy) im getting an error about locking my file, any suggestions?
[19:26] <erUSUL> bartmon: there are backups of that file in the same directory and somewhere in /var/backups/
[19:26] <noodlesgc> PwnageTV|warri`z sounds like you're trying to run more than one instance at the same time
[19:26] <Jack_Sparrow> PwnageTV|warri`z, you can only have one package manager open at a time.. is that the issue here?
[19:26] <Shiba> bartmon: a better solution would be to reinstall using ReiserFS... I switched to it from EXT3 and have never looked back.
[19:26] <erUSUL> bartmon: see the thread i linked
[19:27] <bartmon> erUSUL: thanks, i'll try your suggestion first.
[19:27] <minimec> stwange: Are you having that network problem? If you tried to change the MTU of your eth0 just for a try. sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 1492
[19:27] <frold> so I cant run WMware player while running 7.10 (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy)
[19:27] <Shiba> bartmon: you may not be able to move the file out of hte way if its entry in the filesystem metadata is really corrupted
[19:28] <Shiba> bartmon: your second-best option would be to reboot into recovery mode and do a full fsck on the filesystem again
[19:28] <bartmon> Shiba: Funny thing with Reiser... I wnted to have my / partition as ReiserFS but ubuntu wouldn't install on it. It would only install on ext2/3. :(
[19:28] <majost> I am a little confused about one of the notes in the binary-custom.d/README for the Hardy kernel....
[19:28] <Pici> majost: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[19:28] <Jaza> is anyone familiar with reading windows files?
[19:28] <erUSUL> !ntfs | Jaza
[19:28] <ubotu> Jaza: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[19:28] <majost> "Pico
[19:28] <majost> Pici: thanks
[19:28] <Jaza> yes NTFS
[19:29] <JohnLee> can anybody recommend a good IRC chat client for ubuntu and gnome desktop?
[19:29] <Starnestommy> JohnLee: xchat
[19:29] <noodlesgc> JohnLee xchat-gnome
[19:29] <mawa> JohnLee: xchat-gnome
[19:29]  * algyz likes kvirc
[19:29] <Jack_Sparrow> JohnLee, konversation, kvirc.. the list goes on and on
[19:30] <JohnLee> ok thanks - didnt know there was a gnome specific version of Xchat
[19:30] <Starnestommy> xchat-gnome is nowhere near as complete as regular xchat
[19:30] <lordleemo> JohnLee: irssi is tops
[19:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[19:30] <algyz> irssi is good
[19:30] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[19:30] <erUSUL> JohnLee: use he standar one xchat-gnome just cripples the app imnsho
[19:30] <algyz> !chat | JohnLee
[19:30] <ubotu> JohnLee: The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[19:30] <JohnLee> oh I have pidgin installed
[19:31] <algyz> !kopete | JohnLee
[19:31] <ubotu> JohnLee: Instant Messenger Client Kopete (http://kopete.kde.org) is supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Pidgin
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> JohnLee, Pidgin is not one of the better irc clients
[19:31] <Shiba> bartmon: yeah, that is a real problem with Ubuntu.  I've seen that elsewhere, in Fedora and RHEL too.  I don't get it, since I use reiser on all my custom Gentoo systems and they're rock-solid...
[19:31] <Jaza> windows files on a network, I can see the shared folders but it asks me to sign in as a user, so I try it but I have no password set and it keeps asking for a password?
[19:31] <algyz> I don't like gnome, using kde now :)
[19:31] <IndyGunFreak> Jack_Sparrow: i'd take it a step further, and say Pidgin is a horrible IRC client..lol
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[19:32] <Shiba> IndyGunFreak: XChat2
[19:32] <Jaza> Novice at Ubuntu
[19:32] <JohnLee> have just installed ubuntu with the gnome desktop to compare it to other KDE distros I have tried
[19:32] <algyz> Shiba:  is it such thing?
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> Shiba: almost any IRC client will be better than Pidgin, Xchat, Konversation, irssi, hell even xchat-gnome
[19:32] <Shiba> algyz: is what such thing?
[19:32] <JohnLee> seems to be more KDE orieinted software out there
[19:32] <algyz> xchat2?
[19:32] <Shiba> algyz: yes
[19:33] <nickrud> !language | IndyGunFreak geez ;(
[19:33] <ubotu> IndyGunFreak geez ;(: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:33] <bartmon> Shiba: So are you running Ubuntu or Gentoo on your ReiserFS / partition?
[19:33] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: ?
[19:33] <algyz> JohnLee:  try kubuntu-desktop, you'll like it :)
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> JohnLee, I run a lot of KDE apps under gnome...
[19:33] <noodlesgc> Jaza use smbpasswd
[19:33] <dizzyd87> I just got ubuntu ultimate for vmware and am loving it!
[19:33] <JohnLee> that is my next project algyz
[19:33] <Jaza> the one for ubuntu?
[19:33] <noodlesgc> Jaza yes
[19:33] <Shiba> bartmon: obviously you can't run reiser as your root partition on Ubuntu.  But when given the choice I'll use reiser where possible.
[19:33] <noodlesgc> Jaza type it into  a terminal as root
[19:33] <JohnLee> i have to say I was impresed with ubuntu on my new HP wireless laptop
[19:34] <warri> anyone have any suggestions for desktop themes/eyecandy  + functionality?  And also how to install them ?
[19:34] <JohnLee> I had heard horror stories about wireless drivers on linux but it seems to work great for me
[19:34] <shtoom> hi all of a sudden I've lost sound on my laptop and all the multimedia applications are simply hanging now
[19:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes
[19:34] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:34] <Shiba> bartmon: thus I use reiser on Gentoo and ext3 on Ubuntu (where I'm forced to)
[19:34] <dizzyd87> JohnLee: Ubuntu is looking very promising that's for sure, especially for people that are retarded at linux like me :P
[19:34] <Jaza> OK I'll try that thanks, huh? why do I need to type in to terminal?
[19:34] <algyz> JohnLee:  I was using gnome for a long time, >1 year, but switched to kde :)
[19:34] <shtoom> I am using ubuntu gusty
[19:34] <dizzyd87> algyz: why the switch?
[19:34] <algyz> !kde | JohnLee
[19:34] <ubotu> JohnLee: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[19:34] <warri> !changethemes
[19:34] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[19:35] <Jack_Sparrow> shtoom, please explain what all you did or installed prior to the problem
[19:35] <noodlesgc> Jaza i dont think that ubuntu has samba setup by default
[19:35] <algyz> dizzyd87:  gnome was using a lot of resources
[19:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[19:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:35] <algyz> and now I have huge problems with gnome :(
[19:35] <shtoom> Jack_Sparrow : as far as i can remember i've run update-manager
[19:35] <JohnLee> I have used KDE on PCLinuxOS and Knoppix and liked it fine but its quite complex to really get familiar with
[19:35] <Jaza> how do I do that through a terminal? what command do I use?
[19:35] <shtoom> which did some ghost script related upgrades
[19:36] <noodlesgc> Jaza Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> shtoom, Have you added any custom repos?  as in NON-standard ones
[19:36] <JohnLee> the best thing about KDE seems to be some really great customizations, artwork and lots and lots of apps being written for it
[19:36] <shtoom> Jack_SParrow: you mean universal repos ?
[19:36] <IndyGunFreak> JohnLee: i think KDE is uglier than Rosie Odonell and Ellen Degeneres
[19:36] <algyz> last days tried gnome again, big problems with xrdb...
[19:36] <Jaza> what command do I use?
[19:37] <noodlesgc> Jaza sudo smbpasswd
[19:37] <algyz> IndyGunFreak:  I think kde is nice :P
[19:37] <linkinxp> what is the command again for emerald --replace && own? deown?
[19:37] <noodlesgc> !offtopic | algyz
[19:37] <Jaza> OK thanks
[19:37] <Jack_Sparrow> shtoom, no.. not universe..  here run this..  sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[19:37] <ubotu> algyz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:37] <linkinxp> i got it deown
[19:37] <linkinxp> :D
[19:37] <IndyGunFreak> algyz: i don't know, maybe in an ugly kid sort of way.. its not for me though
[19:37] <JohnLee> well the default appearance depends a lot on the distro you are using but you have a HUGE amount of choice in customizing it to look anyway you want
[19:37]  * algyz sry
[19:37] <JohnLee> but it does take a lot of time
[19:38] <MrBill> I have just installed Ubuntu at a friends house, everything is installed and running good, with the exception that seemingly at random times his mouse and keyboard will both die. You can see that the system has not frozen, we were watching something in VLC one time and it kept playing just fine, so we hooked up a PS/2 keyboard, and it still works fine when the USB devices fail out. He's completely new to linux, and i'm fairly new. Not really sure
[19:38] <MrBill>  where to start to look as far as chasing down a solution for this. What log files should we be checking for clues?
[19:38] <Shiba> I'm trying to resolve an automount on ubuntu 6.10 (both 64-bit and 32-bit).  I have an NFS share that is correctly exporting /home, and automounts are working for user accounts at login.  However, for directories not associated with user accounts, automount fails: "automount [pid]: failed to mount /home/dir"
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow> JohnLee, Your conversation would be better in Ubuntu-offtopic
[19:38] <JohnLee> Gnome seems to be much less customizable but alos much simpler and easier to understand
[19:38] <Jaza> did not work
[19:38] <noodlesgc> Jaza what happened
[19:38] <Shiba> this automount configuration works elsewhere, on rhel/fc/other machines
[19:39] <Shiba> leading me to think this was patched as a "security" measure by the Ubuntu developers
[19:39] <Jaza> it still asks me for a password and I type it in and asks me again
[19:39] <Shiba> is there a channel I can speak with the Ubuntu developers in?
[19:39] <noodlesgc> !smb | Jaza
[19:40] <shtoom> Jack_Sparrow: here is the link http://pastebin.com/d2fc84707
[19:40] <Jaza> ?
[19:40] <ubotu> Jaza: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[19:40] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[19:40] <Jaza> OK thanks
[19:40] <g[r]eek> Gnea, bieb: Does syncing a new drive in a RAID1 array take hours / days / minutes?
[19:40] <Jack_Sparrow> shtoom, Problem was easy to spot.. you used automatix.. and the upgrade borked you ..
[19:40] <blicket> when you install the the kernel-devel pkg in yum where do they put the source?  And the same question when the same question when installing the kernelxxxx.src.rpm?
[19:41] <g[r]eek> 320gb drives, but only about 100gb is used
[19:41] <g[r]eek> And the server will be offline (ie: no outsiders causing activity on it) during the sync
[19:41] <Pici> blicket: This channel is for Ubuntu support only, perhaps you should be asking in your distro specific channel.
[19:41] <linkinxp> where i found the Grub file that has the boot list?
[19:41] <g[r]eek> I'm just wondering how long it'll tke
[19:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !rpm
[19:41] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[19:41] <jelabarre> IndyGunFreak: I was thinking KDE was more like Janet Reno
[19:42] <shtoom> Jack_Sparrow: but I've rarely used automatix directly
[19:42] <IndyGunFreak> jelabarre: well, thats kinda pot calling the kettle black..lol
[19:42] <shtoom> most of the time i run update-manager
[19:42] <blicket> ubotu: you're right..wrong channel
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> shtoom, I guarantee that is your problem and unless you have a backup prior to using/installing automatix.  I dont have any solutions
[19:42] <warri> !games
[19:42] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[19:43] <jelabarre> oh, sorry, that's too harsh.  Actually Windows would be Janet Reno.  Perhaps JR & Hillary Clinton in a three-way with Rosie...
[19:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[19:43] <ubotu> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[19:43] <g[r]eek> Perhaps someone else could answer - how long would an average sync of a new drive on a RAID1 array take?
[19:43] <warri> i wonder does that include running steam on ubuntu?
[19:43] <g[r]eek> More than 1 hour?
[19:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > jelabarre,
[19:43] <bya> #ubuntu-fr
[19:44] <shtoom> Jack_Sparrow:Any one else reported same kind of problem recently ?
[19:44] <Jack_Sparrow> shtoom, Constantly have people with that issue
[19:45] <jelabarre> but seriously, now.  I'm trying to get a Thinkpad modem to work with 8.10/Hardy.  I have to get it working on both a T23 (Agere WinModem56) and a T41 (Intel AC'97)
[19:45] <warri> okay, i downloaded the theme package, but i do not know how to install it, i tried to drag it into my themes window, but it said it was an invalid theme.
[19:45] <warri> i downloaded the GTK 2.x ubuntu_sunrize
[19:45] <shtoom> Jack_Sparrow: But I see every time what update-manager is installing nothing sound related was upgraded before losing it
[19:46] <darklite> hi
[19:46] <shtoom> its only some ghost script packages
[19:46] <noodlesgc> warri go to your appearances window and click the "Install Theme" button
[19:46] <jelabarre> until the house gets rebuilt (probably a year), I'll be stuck with Dial-up at the place we're staying.  So I need to get a working modem sooner rather than later
[19:46] <warri> i tried that, but what should i chose to open the .tar.gz
[19:46] <Jack_Sparrow> shtoom, Your source list has feisty repos, gutsy repos automatix repos plus backports
[19:46] <umj_> how to know where a software was installed, which folder and where
[19:46] <noodlesgc> warri yes, the tar.gz
[19:47] <warri> okay so i chose that
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> shtoom, Sorry, cant help with your situation..
[19:47] <warri> and it give me an error
[19:47] <umj_> how to know where a software was installed, which folder and where
[19:47] <jelabarre> I'm just wondering which kernel level I should be at; supposedly the 2.6.24-15 was supposed to have the Agere/Lucent modem support re-enabled, but this appears not to be the case
[19:47] <shtoom> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks for your time I'll dig deeper into it
[19:47] <warri> nsufficient permissions to install the theme in:
[19:48] <warri> /home/warri/.theme
[19:48] <darklite> I'd like to update the nvidia driver, but the version in the repo seems to be very old (100.14.19)
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> umj_, What were you trying to install and how did you install it
[19:48] <umj> openttd
[19:48] <mawa> hi
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> warri, you usuall drag and drop the new theme onto the open theme manager..
[19:48] <noodlesgc> warri type this: sudo chown warri ~/.themes
[19:48] <mawa> i'm running the latest Heron on a MacBook, for months sound hasn't worked. is this a known issue?
[19:48] <Pici> mawa: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[19:49] <r00723r0> Any simple software to clip audio?
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> darklite, it may be old, but it is stable, working and wont need to be redone after every kernel update
[19:49] <mawa> Pici, ok
[19:49] <warri> okay, now it says too many levels of symbolic links
[19:49] <noodlesgc> r00723r0 audacity, sweep
[19:49]  * pimplife what is the name of that thing that has app's on it like the mac
[19:49] <fatereconciled> Audacity
[19:49] <warri> should i try to install again?
[19:49] <r00723r0> noodlesgc, Audacity is WAY too big.
[19:49] <fatereconciled> Woo laggy.
[19:49] <r00723r0> I've never tried sweep though.
[19:49] <IndyGunFreak> warri: what are you trying to install?
[19:49] <regeya> pimplife: you mean a dock?  avant window navigator
[19:50] <warri> a theme
[19:50] <pimplife> oh thats it
[19:50] <IndyGunFreak> warri: link me to it
[19:50] <r00723r0> Anything other than those two?
[19:50] <warri> kk one sec
[19:50] <warri> !themes
[19:50] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:50] <darklite> Jack_Sparrow: I think I might need a newer version, as I need support for 1366x768 resolution
[19:50] <Jack_Sparrow> pimplife, cairo-dock is another.
[19:50] <g[r]eek> Hi could someone provide me with an estimate of how long it takes a newly added drive to mirror an existing drive in a (software) RAID1 array? Roughly 100gb, and the server will have no other users during the RAID1 recovery.
[19:50] <darklite> I'll double-check if that one support it though
[19:51] <noodlesgc> IndyGunFreak i have to go, warri is having permission issues with his ~/.themes directory, the theme package is fine
[19:51] <Jack_Sparrow> darklite, You should not need a newer version for that res.. just your current driver configured correctly which you would need to do with a newer driver anyhow
[19:51] <IndyGunFreak> noodles12: ok, let me look at it, eh's gonna send me a link
[19:51] <gnuskool> help with install of intel 82852 driver on gutsy, external monitor
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> darklite, sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[19:52] <jelabarre> BTW: I just installed Ubuntu on this machine; does anyone know where Xchat-Gnome keeps it's autologin settings?  I was trying to connect to an internal network, and it connected mr here instead, even though I had not selected it.
[19:53] <darklite> Jack_Sparrow: older nvidia drivers do not support horizontal resolutions that are not a multiple of 8
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> darklite, does your monitor support it..
[19:54] <darklite> yes, it's the native resolution
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> darklite, what make and model of monitor
[19:54] <Neowulffl> i installed ubuntu as the only os and now i need to install xp as well...i know that xp has to be the first os on the disk but i cant get an xp cd to install...i keep getting HHD is not found...could someone help me out?
[19:54] <darklite> I'm using the older driver now (9639)
[19:54] <darklite> Jack_Sparrow: it's a TV actually
[19:54] <darklite> Philips 3
[19:55] <darklite> Philips 32PFL3312/10
[19:55] <IndyGunFreak> Neowulffl: how much do you have invested in your ubuntu install?
[19:55] <IndyGunFreak> settings, etc?
[19:55] <noodles12> anyone here uses thunderbird with multiple email accounts?
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> darklite, never mind.. good luck.. go try the latest driver, but I strongly suggest a system backup before you get things too messed up
[19:55] <Neowulffl> not much...im just learning about linux
[19:55] <fatereconciled> Neo, It's going to say HDD not detected even if you get rid of ubuntu and try XP from scratch
[19:56] <Jaza> can anyone tell me how to edit your /etc/fstab file?
[19:56] <darklite> Jack_Sparrow: that's ok, It has been messd up before :)
[19:56] <fatereconciled> Download appropriate driver from your system board manufacturer website
[19:56] <IndyGunFreak> Neowulffl: it might be easiest to just do a clean install of Windows, let it have the whoel drive, then partition the drive and reinstall.
[19:56] <Neowulffl> i tried to do a fresh install and wont let me
[19:56] <mike-ekim> I have the program skype, that I want to launch multiple instances of, as different users, but the problem is that when I created another user, and tried to launch skype, the application did not launch, and no log messages in syslog or messages file.. anyhelp ?
[19:56] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[19:56] <IndyGunFreak> why not
[19:56] <fatereconciled> Neo listen.
[19:56] <fatereconciled> Download appropriate driver from your system board manufacturer website
[19:56] <Neowulffl> i am
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl...  gotta work on my paperwork
[19:56] <fatereconciled> And then try.
[19:56] <jinarion> is it possible to back up the settings in ubuntu then install xp then ubunu then restore the ubuntu settings?
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone
[19:57] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[19:57] <fatereconciled> And then try.
[19:57] <Neowulffl> kk
[19:57] <IndyGunFreak> fatereconciled: iv'e used a lot of different motherboards from several different manufacturers, and i've never had an issue like that w/ Windows.
[19:57] <Jaza> can anyone tell me how to edit your /etc/fstab file?
[19:58] <fatereconciled> IndyGunFreak: And so hve I. But it worked for me nd I had the exact same problem.
[19:58] <Starnestommy> Jaza: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[19:58] <jessicarabbit> what server/channel can i find help finding a specific piece of furniture? :(
[19:58] <birdy007> which is the dock to use
[19:58] <IndyGunFreak> weird
[19:58] <jinarion> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate thats answer to settings question??
[19:58] <Jaza> thanks
[19:58] <Neowulffl> humm...do you mean the chipset drivers
[19:58] <fatereconciled> Yeah. It loads the entire install then when it comes time to install
[19:58] <fatereconciled> Yes, Neo.
[19:59] <fatereconciled> It says no HDD detected check if cable is plugged in blahblah
[19:59] <fatereconciled> Baffled me as well.
[19:59] <mike-ekim> does anyone know why the user i just created cant launch teh application skype?
[19:59] <fatereconciled> But after a couple days searching I found the solution was to install the appropriate chipset drivers for my atx and lo n behold it worked,
[19:59] <jessicarabbit> does anyone know where i can find specific furntiure thats hard to find?
[20:00] <IndyGunFreak> jessicarabbit: quit being silly, why are you asking this in a Linux channel..
[20:00] <Neowulffl> Fat: i have it but when i select to continue rather then repair the install i get the no drive message so i cant even get in the repair console
[20:00] <neozen-work> fatereconciled: someone say neo?
[20:01] <fatereconciled> Wrong neo, neozen. Sorry XD
[20:01] <neozen-work> eheh.... ::pokes xchat::
[20:01] <jessicarabbit> indygunfreak: its the default channel, i have no idea where to go from here
[20:01] <fatereconciled> Neowulff, that's strange. I had the same error and after getting the drivers it worked with  fresh install.
[20:01] <fatereconciled> =\
[20:02] <rom> hi
[20:02] <rom> would it be possible in future versions to add "nvidia-settings -l" in /usr/bin/compiz if the graphic card is nvidia?
[20:02] <fatereconciled> Why not set up a WinXP VM? How much ram do you have?
[20:02] <ScatterBrain> is vmware server available in Gutsy's repos yet?
[20:02] <Neowulffl> heh...i almost want to drag and drop my notebook...drag it by the cord and drop it out the window
[20:03] <fatereconciled> Yes, Scatter
[20:03] <Neowulffl> 2 gig
[20:03] <windRider_> I have moodle install problem - is the right place to ask?
[20:03] <fatereconciled> hahah
[20:03] <ScatterBrain> fatereconciled: Which repo then?
[20:03] <Lee123> Evening all
[20:03] <cirkit_> hi
[20:03] <cirkit_> is it true linux is for hackerS?
[20:03] <rom> lol cirkit_  :)
[20:03] <rom> linux is for everybody
[20:03] <Seveas> cirkit_, linux is for everyone. That includes hackers
[20:03] <cirkit_> oh
[20:03] <danbhfive> rom this is a support room, its not really the place for feature requests, if I read you correct
[20:04] <Seveas> ScatterBrain, the 'partner' repo on archive.caninical.com
[20:04] <rom> danbhfive> where should I go (on irc) to do such a request
[20:04] <ScatterBrain> Seveas: Thanks
[20:04] <Neowulffl> Fat: thank...guess ill keep lookin
[20:04] <Lee123> I was wondering if anyone could help me with ubuntu, I have a problem with my microphone on TeamSpeak and Ventrilo yet it seems to be fine in recorder
[20:04] <Seveas> rom, such things aren't done on irc
[20:04] <rom> ok
[20:04] <fatereconciled> NeoWulff, install VMWare workstation and set up XP with default 256 MB.
[20:04] <Seveas> !bugs | rom
[20:04] <ubotu> rom: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[20:04] <Sam827> does anyone know of a good ext3 driver for mac
[20:05] <fatereconciled> Then you can run XP inside Linux.
[20:05] <Pici> Sam827: I suggest asking in ##mac for that, this channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[20:05] <Sam827> pici: ok
[20:05] <habernet> how do install ccsm in terminal
[20:05] <ScatterBrain> saaaahhhhhweeet!
[20:05] <Lee123> Are C-Media AC97  sound cards supported by ALSA?
[20:05] <ScatterBrain> Thanks all.
[20:05] <proteus> Lee123 yes
[20:05] <Neowulffl> Fat: that may be faster at this rate...ill have to figure out how do do that...like i said im a newb with linxu
[20:05] <Pici> habernet: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:05] <Seveas> habernet, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:06] <Seveas> @lart Pici
[20:06] <Seveas> :)
[20:06] <Pici> Seveas: :)
[20:06] <Exteris> Edk=;@8-wbx
[20:06] <PwnageTV|warri`z> IndyGunFreak, sorry
[20:06] <Seveas> Exteris, cats don't belong on the keyboard =)
[20:06] <Lee123> proteus: My Cm-Media CI9 Card is not picked up by Alsa it only says ICH5
[20:06] <Exteris> Seveas, sorry
[20:06] <Lee123> any ideas?
[20:06] <fatereconciled> Neo: You can install WMWare Workstation from the repos.
[20:07] <fatereconciled> It's really easy to set up.
[20:07] <Seveas> Lee123, does lspci see it (if it's pci) or lsusb (if usb)
[20:07] <danbhfive> Sam827: try this site: https://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/
[20:07] <proteus> Lee123: Hmm, I haven't dealt with the CI9, but i recall fighting with my C-Media a few years back... it's a royal pain, to say the least.
[20:07] <DShepherd> anyone know a free tool i can use to convert an  irc log to xml ?
[20:07] <Seveas> DShepherd, sed
[20:07] <proteus> I used the CMI8788
[20:07] <Neowulffl> Fat: ill try it but i would rather do an XP clean install then install ubuntu on a sep part
[20:07] <DShepherd> Seveas, :-)
[20:08] <proteus> is that the chipset used on the CI9?
[20:08] <Lee123> Did you resolve and Seveas im on Xp atm i will switch soon and check that
[20:08] <Diurpaneus> hello it is a romanian guy there?
[20:08] <Lee123> Erm no i think its a different chipset
[20:08] <Seveas> !ro | Diurpaneus
[20:08] <ubotu> Diurpaneus: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[20:08] <Pici> !ro | Diurpaneus
[20:08] <Pici> Seveas: beat me that time.
[20:08] <Seveas> Pici, 1-1
[20:09] <magnus> hi
[20:09] <Seveas> I'm keeping score tonight =)
[20:09] <Seveas> hi magnus
[20:09] <Lee123> proteus did you end up fixing it?
[20:09] <proteus> Lee123: I recall that I had to add an alsactl restore to my startup scripts, because for some reason the settings didn't automatically restore... and i had to modify the actual config, the gui/cli tools didn't configure things properly.
[20:09] <DShepherd> Seveas, i was hoping to be a little lazier that that.
[20:10] <Seveas> DShepherd, you'd spend as much time googling for something as writing a quick sed :)
[20:10] <fatereconciled> Anyone here familiar with concurrent booting?
[20:10] <Lee123> yrh i heard about the startup scripts but i honestly have no clue where to start, are you still using the C-media?
[20:10] <Seveas> fatereconciled, depends on what you mean by that
[20:10] <erUSUL> fatereconciled: dual boot win and linux ?
[20:10] <proteus> No, I got tired of the subpar quality and hassles and bought an M-Audio
[20:11] <jens> Can anyone tell me how to install anything in ubuntu? I can't find gparted, can't install mplayer nor vlc :(
[20:11] <proteus> (which is a different set of hassles, but at least the quality is good)
[20:11] <DShepherd> Seveas, I think you maybe very right
[20:11] <erUSUL> !software | jens
[20:11] <ubotu> jens: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[20:11] <fatereconciled> No I mean booting linux for processors that support hyperthreading
[20:11] <Seveas> jens, applications -> add/remove. Make sure you select 'Show all available software' in the top right corner
[20:11] <Lee123> haha, so when you did get it configured the sound and mic quality were still poor?
[20:11] <fatereconciled> <-- Intel Centrino Duo 1.66GHz
[20:11] <magnus> is there any way to change "resolution" in the terminal (tty1-6)?
[20:11] <erUSUL> fatereconciled: the generic kernel should support hyperthreading just fine afaik
[20:11] <Seveas> fatereconciled, all ubuntu kernels support SMP
[20:11] <proteus> Lee123: looking on cmedia's site, I don't see a CI9, have you checked dmesg to see which chipset it's using?
[20:12] <proteus> Lee123: Yeah, things like duplex never worked right, ESD would always lag badly, etc
[20:12] <Lee123> sorry it was a typo its the C-Media CMI9761
[20:12] <fatereconciled> I know. But when I try to enable I get a long list of errors in rc
[20:12] <jens> Seveas: well, i'm installing (or trying to) via aptitude (no gui).
[20:12] <fatereconciled> =\
[20:12] <Seveas> jens, ah, then make sure your sources.list includes universe
[20:12] <erUSUL> jens: sudo aptitude vlc
[20:13] <Jaza> Starnestommy: I'm still trying to mount my windows server but I get this message :Mounting cifs URL not implemented yet. Attempt to mount rec-room
[20:13] <Jaza> No ip address specified and hostname not found
[20:13] <jens> erUSUL: that's what i tried ^^ It just doesn't find it, even after enabling those *
[20:13] <jens> verser
[20:13] <jens> :(
[20:13] <magnus> is there any way to change "resolution" in the terminal (tty1-6)?
[20:13] <jens> after those *verser
[20:13] <Jaza> what does that mean?
[20:13] <FloodBot2> jens: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <Pici> !fb > magnus (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[20:13] <fatereconciled> in /etc/init.d/rc when I change concurrency from 'none' to 'shell' it completely screws over the boot process
[20:13] <erUSUL> jens: probably you lack some repos
[20:13] <user1> iam using tvtime with tv card Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01), i cant see the cable. no video no audio.further info : http://pastebin.com/m6986190e   any help please?
[20:14] <erUSUL> !repos | jens
[20:14] <ubotu> jens: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[20:14] <fatereconciled> I wish I could remember the errors so I could post them here
[20:14] <jens> erUSUL: yeah, just enabled them via the GUI. Thanks though
[20:14] <erUSUL> jens: system>Admin>Software sources
[20:14] <proteus> Lee123: is it showing up in your sound options?
[20:14] <Lee123> it shows up only under OSS
[20:14] <Lee123> in Alsa its an  Intel ICH5
[20:14] <Jaza> I'm still trying to mount my windows server but I get this message :Mounting cifs URL not implemented yet. Attempt to mount rec-room
[20:14] <Jaza>  No ip address specified and hostname not found, can anyone help?
[20:15] <user1> iam using tvtime with tv card Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01), i cant see the cable. no video no audio.further info : http://pastebin.com/m6986190e   any help please?
[20:15] <kyrandesa> something fails when booting up and i'd like to know why. any idea, where i could find the logs?
[20:15] <passmgx> quit
[20:15] <brynjolf> Quick question, is it somewhat easy to disable PulseAudio in Hardy? I want to be able to switch consoles and still have MPD output audio etc
[20:15] <magnus> Pici: But it isnt Grub i want to change res in but the tty terminals....
[20:15] <Pici> magnus: I believe the two are linked together.
[20:16] <proteus> Lee123: just to be sure, you have the alsa modules loaded, and have the ac97 module for alsa loaded also, right?
[20:16] <magnus> Pici: ok. ty
[20:16] <Lee123> erm i havent checked
[20:16] <proteus> Lee123: From my experience, getting any C-Media device to work
[20:16] <Lee123> do you have msn? because i need to rebbot
[20:16] <proteus> is a test in patience haha
[20:16] <MrBill> Have a brand new install of Ubuntu that is locking up randomly. Sometiems after about 2 minutes, sometimes lasting upwards of half an hour. Doesn't seem to be tied to any particular piece of software. What log files would I want to be poking into in an effort to try and figure this out?
[20:16] <Lee123> haha sounds fun
[20:17] <proteus> I don't actually.
[20:17] <Lee123> well i'll reboot and come back here and if your still on  then :)
[20:17] <erUSUL> MrBill: /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog .... does the keyboard leds blink when the crash occurs?
[20:17] <Lee123> cheers for the help back soon
[20:17] <proteus> np bud
[20:18] <fatereconciled> So no one knows why concurrency=shell corrupts the boot process even though I m running dual processor
[20:18] <fatereconciled> ?
[20:19] <Seveas> fatereconciled, 'concurrency=shell' is not something understood by the standard ubuntu init deamon afaik
[20:19] <jblack> Has anyone managed to get networking on xen on Hardy working?
[20:19] <MrBill> erUSUL: Once it's crashed I"m unable to toggle the caps lock/scroll lock lights by hitting the caps/scroll lock keys. Is that what you mean?
[20:20] <Pici> jblack: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[20:20] <jblack> Oh, yes. sorry.
[20:23] <offload> hey guys I hate Nautilus.  Is there something better I can use?  My biggest annoyance is the fact that it won't show image thumbnails when upload images through firefox
[20:23] <Jaza> Can someone help I got pass my first mount error now I get: mount error: can not change directory into mount target /media/Itunes
[20:23] <cder> i have a cd in my cd rom its showing upn the destop i want to copy the image to a file whats the command please?
[20:23] <Seveas> Jaza, does that directory exist?
[20:23] <Jaza> Trying to mount a network folder on SMB
[20:24] <Jaza> Itunes yes, but What do I put for media?
[20:24] <Seveas> Jaza, /media is a folder on your computer
[20:25] <Seveas> does the Itunes folder exist in the /media folder
[20:25] <fordprefect_> If I'm still using Dapper is there a place to look for advice onresolving random freezes?
[20:25] <Jaza> Do I need to replace the word media for a directory name?
[20:25] <cder> if i use the cp or mv command will it copy a image of the cd?
[20:25] <Seveas> Jaza, are you at all listening to what I'm saying?
[20:25] <CorbinFox> I have a new laptop and when i plug in headphones the speakers still play (sound comes out the headphones too).  any help?
[20:26] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[20:26] <Jaza> I guess I'm a little confused, the Itunes directory exist on windows and linux
[20:27] <Ssam`> what does the alternative iso download from the internet
[20:27] <arcticpenguin380> will ubuntu detect 4 cores in a cpu?
[20:27] <Ssam`> which takes hours?
[20:27] <Seveas> arcticpenguin380, yes
[20:27] <warri> IndyGunFreak, did you read my pm?
[20:27] <arcticpenguin380> how many cores does ubuntu support?
[20:27] <cder> Seveas; if i use the cp command will it copy the image to a file?
[20:27] <joanki> does anyone know how i can get the curses.h library file on my computer?
[20:27] <IndyGunFreak> warri: i juswt did.. sorry, i stepped away
[20:28] <warri> im getting this error, trying to install insufficient permissions to install the theme in: /home/warri/.themes
[20:28] <Seveas> joanki, apt-get install libcurses5-dev
[20:28] <warri> its all good
[20:28] <joanki> Seveas, E: Couldn't find package libcurses5-dev
[20:28] <NekoKun> Is there a command line torrent client?
[20:29] <Seveas> joanki, apt-cache -n search curses | grep dev
[20:29] <noneo> Hi, I'm looking for good mail reader for my girlfriend. Console tool. Any advice?
[20:29] <Shii> pine :D
[20:29] <cder> ompaul: evening
[20:29] <Seveas> that should give you the correct package name :)
[20:29] <CorbinFox> I have a new laptop and when i plug in headphones the speakers still play (sound comes out the headphones too).  any help?
[20:29] <swosu> I can send but not receive mail on my 7.10 box using the mail command... anyone know how to fix this?
[20:30] <Shii> does anyone know why nautilus wouldn't load for me?
[20:30] <joanki> Seveas, same outcome
[20:30] <Shii> everything works but nautilus... i can't open any folders
[20:30] <joanki> do i need to type anything before apt-cache -n search curses | grep dev?
[20:30] <warri> anyone have any suggestions on how to allow my permissions so i can install a theme?
[20:30] <joanki> i just typed it directly,  Seveas
[20:30] <Seveas> joanki, you need this package: libncurses5-dev
[20:30] <Seveas> forgot the n
[20:31] <noneo> Shii: apt-cache search pine returnet nothing! :-(
[20:31] <Jaza> I need some help I'm trying to type this line on the fstab directory ://servername/sharename  /media/mountname  cifs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode  0  0
[20:32] <joanki> Seveas, is there another way for me to get it?
[20:32] <Seveas> joanki, apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[20:32] <Damion> So I'm trying to switch from Win98SE to either ubuntu or xubuntu
[20:32] <Seveas> that should do it. If not: fix your sources.list :)
[20:32] <Jaza> I have the server name as an IP address what do i need for share name, media, and mount name?
[20:32] <joanki> it's working
[20:32] <joanki> thanks Seveas
[20:32] <Jaza> Please help
[20:32] <Damion> but both a factory-packed ubuntu disk and a home-burnt xubuntu disk are returning the exact same busybox error
[20:32] <swosu> I
[20:32] <Damion> does anyone have an idea of what the problem is?
[20:33] <Shii> noneo: i am thinking of this one http://www.washington.edu/alpine/
[20:33] <thannoy> arcticpenguin380: I think it will detect "4 cpu"
[20:33] <Shii> there's a deb package... i guess it's not part of ubuntu, but you wanted a console client right?
[20:33] <Seveas> Damion, hardware incompatibility. Is the machine as old as windows 98?
[20:33] <swosu> I'm able to send but not receive mail using the mail command.  Anyone know why messages are not being recieved by my mail command? (I
[20:33] <thannoy> arcticpenguin380: as my hyperthreading processor gets detected as 2 CPUs
[20:33] <Shii> the alternative is mutt which is the most horrid thing i've ever dealt with
[20:33] <swosu> 'm sending it to the user@ip)
[20:33] <noneo> Shii: Many thx.
[20:33] <arcticpenguin380> thannoy: thanks
 Damion, hardware incompatibility. Is the machine as old as windows 98? <-- it's newer
[20:34] <Damion> I just back-installed when I got it because 98SE was all I had on me
[20:34]  * Damion - Windows 98 has been running 33mins 14secs Memory Usage: 346/502MB (68.96%) Processor: 1-AMD Duron(tm) processor, 1002MHz, 192KB HDD Free Space: (C: 9803MB/19.07GB) (D: Removable) (E: CDROM) (F: CDROM) (G: 89472MB/149.01GB) (H: CDROM)
[20:34] <Damion> I guess maybe that doesn't say as much as I thought it did
[20:35] <Jaza> can anyone help?
[20:35] <Seveas> Damion, it gives a rough indication
[20:35] <Seveas> Damion, odd, have you tried the CD selftest?
[20:35] <emperorcezar> What's the package manager in Ubuntu?
[20:35] <IndyGunFreak> emperorcezar: system/admin/synaptic
[20:35] <Damion> seveas: selftest gives the same error on both CDs as when I just try to boot from liveCD
[20:36] <emperorcezar> IndyGunFreak: Thanks
[20:36] <IndyGunFreak> np
[20:36] <nick_> llo
[20:36] <agentc0re> I need to learn more about upstart... Where can i find some good documentation about it and how to work with it in scripts.
[20:36] <lee_> hello again
[20:36] <nick_> sorry hello
[20:36] <blastron> I've been recently informed by my campus network admin that my server has tried to send email without using a campus server 509 times in the last 18 hours. As I have not recently installed any software and most certainly have not tried to send email from this server, how might I go diagnosing this problem? I am relatively new to Linux, so this is quite vexing.
[20:37] <Jaza> anyone?
[20:37] <CorbinFox> I have a new laptop and when i plug in headphones the speakers still play (sound comes out the headphones too).  any help? that and I can't get my atheros wireless card to work.  their site seems to offer no drivers to ndiswrapperize and the madwifi thing i tried didn't work.
[20:37] <Seveas> Damion, could be a broken CD drive then
[20:37] <zcat[1]> what's the magic command that gives you a list of all currently installed packages ?
[20:37] <lee_> anyone know how to get ubuntu to recognise my cmedia soundcard?
[20:37] <Pelo> blastron, try checking in the logs   /var/logs
 Damion, could be a broken CD drive then <-- same result from both CD drives
[20:38] <Seveas> Damion, busted IDE cable?
[20:38] <Damion> so both of them would have to be working
[20:38] <Pelo> zcat[1],  dpkg --get-selections > mypackages
[20:38] <Damion> they're both plugged into the same cable, so maybe
[20:38] <fdr> zcat[1], dpkg -l  ? but i think there was also something else
[20:38] <zcat[1]> thanks!
[20:38] <Shii> ok, there is something called nautilus-debug-log.txt which is adding a new line every millisecond
[20:38] <Damion> but I've never had a problem with it/them before
[20:38] <Shii> every line is "debug log dumped due to signal 11"
[20:38] <brynjolf> aptitude search ~i(nameofpackageoremptyifall)
[20:38] <habernet> is amarok compatible with ipod?
[20:38] <Ktron> Is there a way to perform an upgrade from Gutsy-->Hardy from the command line? I don't have a GUI installed
[20:39] <Pelo> habernet, yes, throught the meida library I belive
[20:39] <blastron> Pelo: all I see are three or four lines from earlier today, alerting me that /etc/postfix/main.cf does not exist
[20:39] <habernet> pelo thanks
[20:39] <lee_> anyone know how to fix my cmedia?
[20:39] <IndyGunFreak> habernet: Amarok is a good Ipod manager.
[20:39] <Pelo> Ktron,  do not upgrade yet, wait for the official release , and yes you can upgrad through the command line
[20:39] <IndyGunFreak> i just hate having KDE libs
[20:39] <blastron> Pelo: I should be looking in mail.err, mail.log, etc.?
[20:39] <habernet> okay, thanks guys
[20:39] <Seveas> Shii, signal 11 is segfault. You may have bad memory
[20:40] <Jaza> Can anyone tell me why SMB asks me for a password to my windows files when I don't have a password set on windows??
[20:40] <Ktron> Pelo, I need stuff in PHP 5.2.4; its just a beta webserver
[20:40] <Pelo> blastron, I was just giving you a place to look , seemed a good place to start ,  I donT' know much more about it ,
[20:40] <Marine_> Is there a way to enable WPA wireless network encryption in the network-setup of Ubuntu?
[20:40] <blastron> Pelo: Alright, thanks, I'll keep looking, then.
[20:40] <Marine_> with the ipw2200 driver?
[20:40] <Shii> Seveas: it seems to be this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/150471
[20:40] <LeWench__> Im deciding which email client to use for ubuntu. Choice is between Thunderbird, or evolution. Anyone have a better suggestion? or opinion
[20:40] <Shii> i hope that doesn't mean i have bad memory... this memory is brand new
[20:41] <Pelo> blastron, ##linux would also be a good place to ask
[20:41] <Seveas> Shii, ah fun!
[20:41] <blastron> Alright, thanks
[20:41] <zcat[1]> LeWench__: both are good. Do you need the calendar and stuff?
[20:41] <Ktron> Pelo, its a viable testing bed
[20:41] <LeWench__> No not really.
[20:41] <Jaza> Can anyone tell me why SMB asks me for a password to my windows files when I don't have a password set on windows??
[20:41] <Pelo> LeWench__, evolution is like MS outlook,  contact , calendar,  task , email,  thunderbird is more like outlook express , just email and contact
[20:41] <zcat[1]> Jaza: just press enter
[20:41] <Pelo> Ktron,  try askingin #ubuntu+1
[20:42] <brynjolf> My personal opinions: Thunderbird, multiplatform slower Evolution: Fast and "Linux only"
[20:42] <amikrop> How can I get screen widgets like a visual clock, diary, memory usage graphs, and stuff?
[20:42] <CorbinFox> LeWnch__: i use thunderbird, but mostly because I dig Mozilla.  and there is an addon for thunderbird called Lightning that has an awesome calendar program build in
[20:42] <LeWench__> Pelo, Ah, ok. Well thanks for the clarification.
[20:42] <zcat[1]> I just use gmail now.. don't even bother with a mail client
[20:42] <Seveas> brynjolf, evo actually works on windows as well :)
[20:42] <Diurpaneus> is someone ther who can help me. the sistem can't see the external usb hdd, in need to use this external hdd to save my imp docs
[20:42] <Seveas> amikrop, screenlets
[20:43] <Jaza> I did and it keeps telling me that Authentication Required
[20:43] <Pelo> later folks
[20:43] <brynjolf> ah, last time I tried it was pushing for the work part and as being usable, not so much ;)
[20:43] <danbhfive> Jaza http://www.europe.eclipse.co.uk/Ubuntu/Ubuntu-on-win-network.htm
[20:43] <amikrop> Seveas: Oh, and how do I install some?
[20:44] <cder> i am copying the image of a xp disk to ubuntu for vmware is the cpommand cp the name of the disk will it copy a image?
[20:45] <Jaza> thanks I'll try that
[20:45] <zcat[1]> cder: I'd use something like k3b .. or you can do 'dd if=/dev/cdrom of=winxp.iso'
[20:45] <Seveas> amikrop, the screenlets-data package :)
[20:46] <zcat[1]> brasero will let youcopy a CD to an ISO image too..
[20:46] <jinarion> any thoughts on how to make java in opera??
[20:46] <cder> ompaul: evening
[20:47] <zcat[1]> hmmm.. does vmware let you use an iso? not sure what you need actually..
[20:47] <amikrop> Seveas: ok, thanks.
[20:47] <Marine__> zcat[1]: yes
[20:48] <Siph0n> hey.... I tried to get my laptop hooked up to my tv through a VGA cable.... than hit the Fn and F4 key to get the image to show on my tv.... and now my laptop wont show videos nemore.... just a black screen
[20:48] <Siph0n> any ideas how to get it to go back?
[20:48] <Marine__> Is it possible to enable WPA encryption on a wireless NIC in ubuntu setup?
[20:48] <Marine__> Siph0n: wont display at all or just not videos?
[20:48] <lee_> Anyone know how to improve mic quality?
[20:48] <IndyGunFreak> Marine_: i imagine it is, i'm using WPA.
[20:48] <offload> hey guys I hate Nautilus.  Is there something better I can use?  My biggest annoyance is the fact that it won't show image thumbnails when upload images through firefox
[20:48] <Siph0n> Marine_, just videos.... cause i am seeing Xchat.... just not the videos
[20:48] <CorbinFox> I have a new laptop and when i plug in headphones the speakers still play (sound comes out the headphones too).  any help? that and I can't get my atheros wireless card to work.  their site seems to offer no drivers to ndiswrapperize and the madwifi thing i tried didn't work.
[20:49] <Marine__> IndyGunFreak: simply because i get the option for WEP, just not WPA
[20:49] <Marine__> using Unetbootin btw
[20:49] <IndyGunFreak> Marine_: guess it depends on the device, and how its used, i'm using madwifi...
[20:49] <IndyGunFreak> Marine_: what device?
[20:49] <Marine__> ipw2200
[20:50] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, i'm not really familiar w/ Intel, but surely there's a way, Intel is generally considered the easiest to setup
[20:50] <habernet> it wont let me enter ccsm what should i do?
[20:50] <Marine__> ok IndyGunFreak ill try again
[20:50] <cder> cp command copy image on cd in cdrom to home dir this correct?
[20:50] <bastid_raZor> !ccsm | habernet
[20:50] <ubotu> habernet: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[20:50] <bastid_raZor> habernet; have you installed that package yet?
[20:50] <reauthor> ipw2200 works fine with wpa & wpa2
[20:51] <CJS3141> VirtualBox question: My host OS is WinXP, and my guest is Ubuntu 7.10. I installed the Vbox guest additions in Ubuntu, and set up to share my C drive as "C_DRIVE" under Vbox. I did the command "sudo mount -t vboxsf C_DRIVE /mnt/share". I then go into /mnt/share and there is nothing there. What am I missing?
[20:51] <user1> iam using tvtime with tv card Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01), i cant see the cable. no video no audio.further info : http://pastebin.com/m6986190e   any help please?
[20:51] <habernet> bastid_razor.. i have that package...already installed ccsm..i just installed kiba dock and now it wont let me open up ccsm
[20:51] <MrBill> Is there a way to put a 2nd clock in my top panel that is set to GMT?
[20:52] <bastid_raZor> habernet; when you type ccsm in a terminal what does it give for an error, if any?
[20:53] <ganastasiou> hello
[20:53] <cder> could be quicker asking a question in forum in absolute beginners?
[20:53] <ganastasiou> anyone know vsftp?
[20:54] <warri> !!themes
[20:54] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[20:54] <usser> ganastasiou, what do u need to know?
[20:55] <ganastasiou> i did some changes to conf
[20:55] <ganastasiou> but i cannot login anonymously
[20:55] <ganastasiou> error 530
[20:55] <usser> ganastasiou, oh i see
[20:55] <usser> ganastasiou, hang on
[20:56] <ganastasiou> ok bto
[20:56] <ganastasiou> bro
[20:56] <Diurpaneus> the sistem can't see the external usb hdd. what can I do, please help me :(
[20:56] <MrBill> Is there a way to put a 2nd clock in my top panel that is set to GMT?
[20:56] <jinarion> good question
[20:57] <Seveas> MrBill, in Ubuntu 8.04 you can have something like that
[20:57] <CorbinFox> I have a new laptop and when i plug in headphones the speakers still play (sound comes out the headphones too).  any help? that and I can't get my atheros wireless card to work.  their site seems to offer no drivers to ndiswrapperize and the madwifi thing i tried didn't work.  These are the ONLY problems my system has and if they can be fixed I can partially justify paying for this thing...
[20:57] <bya> #ubuntu-fr
[20:57] <MrBill> Not possible in 7.10 though?
[20:57] <usser> ganastasiou, heres my conf take a closer look at anything anonymous
[20:57] <nn> whats a quick iptables rule to block all packets from 213.239.210.182? seems worm infested, has tried about 3000 usernames on sshd
[20:57] <usser> ganastasiou, http://pastebin.com/m3847b130
[20:58] <b47619> what's with the redirect?
[20:58] <marx2k> ?
[20:58] <Starnestommy> nn: check http://www.netadmintools.com/art216.html
[20:59] <jinarion> mr bill i think i may have some answer for you
[20:59] <nn> Starnestommy: i normally i have fbsd machine filtering traffic but im at a hotel right now
[20:59] <jinarion> mrbill right click on taskbar and add to panel
[20:59] <MrBill> ok
[21:00] <CJS3141> Can anyone help me with mounting a shared directory thru VirtualBox? I think I'm almost there but not quite.
[21:00] <ganastasiou> usser, i think i dont have anything wrong http://pastebin.com/m6292a01c
[21:01] <Marine__> Actually my wifi card isn't picking up any networks either. Is there a command to enable my card without my hardware button (It doesn't seem to like my hardware button, timeouts for disabling/enabling radio)
[21:01] <MrBill> I figured out how to add a 2nd clock, but I can't change the timezone on one from the other
[21:01] <swosu> quit
[21:01] <swosu> q
[21:01] <jinarion> set to utc
[21:01] <Intertricity> does anybody know how to skip the "configuring apt" section of the server install?
[21:01] <Intertricity> I can't hook it up to the internet right now
[21:01] <MrBill> I can set my entire system to GMT, but that's no good... i'm not actually in GMT.
[21:02] <MrBill> oh hey, yeah, that works =)
[21:02] <jinarion> mrbill i had to reset the main clock after setting the new 1
[21:02] <BigCanOfTuna> There is probably an obvious answer to this, but why, when I do an apt-get install, I get prompted to mount /cdrom? when I mount it and run apt-get, it simply unmounts it prompts me to mount it again...it is the correct disc, btw.
[21:02] <Lunar_Lamp> I seem to recall a meta package for installing everything required for a "lamp" install - what's it called?
[21:02] <erUSUL> !lamp | Lunar_Lamp
[21:02] <ubotu> Lunar_Lamp: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[21:02] <guest2008> www.highrated.in
[21:03] <guest2008> www.highrated.in
[21:03] <MrBill> I'm good now, my original clock is still CST, and my newly added is showing correctly in GMT
[21:03] <guest2008> www.highrated.in
[21:03] <MrBill> thank you.
[21:03] <erUSUL> !ops | guest2008
[21:03] <usser> ganastasiou, try putting this no_anon_password=YES
[21:03] <IndyGunFreak> they must think people actually click their links
[21:03] <ganastasiou> ok
[21:03] <Diurpaneus> can anyone help me with an external hdd, the sistem cannot see the hdd :(
[21:04] <ubotu> guest2008: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[21:04] <erUSUL> Diurpaneus: usb =
[21:04] <Diurpaneus> yes
[21:04] <IndyGunFreak> !gksudo > warri
[21:04] <jinarion> mrbill cool great
[21:04] <jinarion> glab i could someone in here
[21:04] <jinarion> glad
[21:04] <IndyGunFreak> !gksudo > indygunfreak
[21:04] <Coggz> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[21:04] <Coggz> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[21:04] <Coggz> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[21:04] <Coggz> how do i fix
[21:04] <FloodBot2> Coggz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:04] <erUSUL> Diurpaneus: do «tail -f /var/log/messages» and plug the hd paste the new lines you will see on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[21:05] <Coggz> ok...
[21:05] <ganastasiou> i did it
[21:05] <ganastasiou> usser
[21:05] <ganastasiou> but nothing
[21:05] <ganastasiou> this conf i sent u
[21:05] <mikeyfbi> hey guys, quick question - i used this link to set my terminal to 'embed' to the desktop
[21:05] <mikeyfbi> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-completely-transparent-shell-on.html
[21:05] <Starnestommy> Coggz: is kde-devel installed?
[21:06] <mikeyfbi> i was wondering if i could do the same with xchat or any app
[21:06] <usser> ganastasiou, restarted vsftpd i assume?
[21:06] <erUSUL> |enter | ganastasiou
[21:06] <Coggz> ah!
[21:06] <ganastasiou> was a bit copy paste from a site
[21:06] <ganastasiou> i did this too
[21:06] <erUSUL> !enter > ganastasiou
[21:06] <usser> ganastasiou, what client do you use?
[21:06] <Diurpaneus> i dont understand
[21:06] <ganastasiou> gftp
[21:06] <usser> ganastasiou, try using terminal's ftp command
[21:06] <Damion> http://www.alexnolan.net/software/sysspec.htm <-- is this a reliable system specs utility?
[21:06] <ganastasiou> do i have to make user for ftp?
[21:06] <erUSUL> Diurpaneus: have you used a shell before?
[21:07] <Damion> I want to look at the specs so I can make support forums posts more reliably.
[21:07] <mikeyfbi> i'd also like to know how to embed my system monitor stats to the desktop without a widget app...is that possible?
[21:07] <usser> ganastasiou, not really
[21:07] <Diurpaneus> no :(
[21:07] <Seveas> mikeyfbi, looks like you can do that with any app that has a static title and/or lets you set one
[21:07] <usser> ganastasiou, just when it asks for login enter anonymous
[21:07] <CorbinFox> I have a new laptop and when i plug in headphones the speakers still play (sound comes out the headphones too).  any help? that and I can't get my atheros wireless card to work.  their site seems to offer no drivers to ndiswrapperize and the madwifi thing i tried didn't work.  These are the ONLY problems my system has and if they can be fixed I can partially justify paying for this thing...
[21:07] <mikeyfbi> Seveas: thanks!  i'm trying right now but don't know what 'code' to replace "title=trans"
[21:08] <mikeyfbi> Seveas: I just tried name=xchat but that didn't seem to work
[21:08] <r3c0n> hello folks, ive been thinking about transitioning from fedora which is obviously an rpm based distro to your lovely ubuntu, any tips for a new comer? :) and will you guys stick to 1 CD releases rather than 1 DVD releases that go up to 3.5 GIG in size like lets not mention names here :P
[21:08] <Seveas> mikeyfbi, xchat has more in the window title
[21:08] <Coggz> Starnestommy: thanks
[21:08] <habernet> i just installed 7.10 and kiba dock...after installing kiba dock ccsm is no longer accessible (when i click on it nothing pops up, and i have no visual effects) and kiba dock does not start up automatically even though i have put into sessions..what should i do to fix this?
[21:08] <Seveas> mikeyfbi, maybe use XChat.*
[21:08] <ganastasiou> 500 OOPS: vsftpd: cannot locate user specified in 'chown_username':samourai
[21:09] <usser> ganastasiou, theres your problem remove chown from config file
[21:09] <mikeyfbi> Seveas: okay i'll try a bunch of phrases :) Thanks!  Would you also know how to embed system monitor type stats without a widget app?
[21:09] <usser> ganastasiou, or wait
[21:09] <usser> ganastasiou, are u sure this user exists in your system??
[21:09] <kane77> mikeyfbi, what widget app? have you seen conky? is this not what you are after?
[21:09] <ganastasiou> no im noob on this i did a copy paste
[21:10] <Seveas> mikeyfbi, no
[21:10] <magnus> !qui
[21:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qui - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:10] <usser> ganastasiou, so u only need anonymous access?
[21:10] <monkey1990>  hi. lspci reports wrong size of vram. is there a workaroung?
[21:10] <ganastasiou> bityes
[21:10] <Diurpaneus> OK i do it
[21:10] <ganastasiou> yes
[21:10] <mikeyfbi> kane77: i don't think i've tried conky.  I tried a couple of the other ones, but they didn't seem to work for me...many errors
[21:10] <mikeyfbi> Seveas: np, thanks!
[21:10] <usser> ganastasiou, in your pastebin comment out lines 57 58
[21:10] <ganastasiou> ok
[21:10] <erUSUL> !shell | Diurpaneus
[21:10] <ubotu> Diurpaneus: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[21:11] <fbc> If I uninstall evolution, will it adversely affect anything else in the system?
[21:11] <mikeyfbi> Seveas: !name=xchat works :)  i forgot the "!"
[21:11] <Diurpaneus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62873/
[21:12] <Siph0n> if Fn + F4 took away my videos from showing on my laptop, how can i get it back??? Hitting Fn + F4 doesn't seem to do it...
[21:12] <kane77> mikeyfbi, hmm.. so I think you might find terminator useful, following the same guide you can make it transparend and in background and have multiple things monitoring your system
[21:12] <Seveas> mikeyfbi, heh :)
[21:12] <ganastasiou> name anonymous?
[21:12] <erUSUL> Diurpaneus: al parecer el kernel de ubuntu cree que el disco tiene problemas scsi 6:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
[21:12] <mikeyfbi> kane77: terminator?  where could i find this?
[21:12] <monkey1990>  hi. lspci reports wrong size of vram. is there a workaroung?
[21:13] <erUSUL> Diurpaneus: sorry i'm spanish and i forgot...
[21:13] <unop__> fbc, have a look at the packages that depend on evolution. apt-cache rdepends evolution
[21:13] <ganastasiou> with cli i did ftp and my ip
[21:13] <kane77> mikeyfbi, I hope that's the name :) wait, I will check :)
[21:13] <ganastasiou> and now it asks me for name
[21:13] <usser> ganastasiou, anonymous
[21:13] <Bitmess> When trying to run or install I get lockedup and following error  pci: cannot allocate resource region 1 of  device 0000:00:14.0      I have tried removong all hardware and setting bios to failsafe. Still does it
[21:13] <erUSUL> Diurpaneus: it seems that the linux kernel thinks that the disk is faulty or has probelms so it disconnect it see scsi 6:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
[21:14] <ganastasiou> 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root
[21:14] <IceWewe> I accidentally deleted a CD iso I needed on a JFS file system, I haven't written [much] to it, so is there any hope of getting it back?
[21:14] <fbc> unop__, ubuntudesktop depends on evolution?? I figured it would be the otherway around.
[21:15] <Diurpaneus> what can I do?
[21:15] <usser> ganastasiou, hm interesting
[21:15] <ganastasiou> usser is this cause ihave target dir another partition?
[21:15] <unop__> fbc, ubuntu-desktop isn't a real package, it's a metapackage, used to pull in the various other packages that make up an ubuntu desktop .. nothing depends on this package
[21:16] <goldins> how do I pick my active sound card?
[21:16] <goldins> I have two...
[21:16] <unop__> fbc, and it can be removed to no ill-effect
[21:16] <Seveas> goldins, system -> preferences -> sound
[21:16] <usser> ganastasiou, no i dont think so its just that on that harddrive u probably has setup writing access to everybody
[21:16] <D3RGPS31> using ALSA, i can't hear audio from WINE when using something else that uses audio, requesting workaround or fix... pays in oatmeal cookies!
[21:16] <usser> ganastasiou, and vsftpd forbids that, since its "very secure"
[21:16] <Bitmess> I have Googled for answers, no solutions but many ppl having same problem
[21:16] <IceWewe> so, no one here has any expierence recovering files from JFS?
[21:16] <ganastasiou> but im the only user
[21:16] <erUSUL> !who | Diurpaneus
[21:16] <ubotu> Diurpaneus: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[21:17] <goldins> Seveas: I don't see my audigy2...
[21:17] <phlax> hi - im doing a fresh install on a (dell inspiron 1525) core 2 duo chip - can anyone tell me if this chip should/could use the 64-bit ubuntu - or whether its best to use the i386 version?
[21:17] <usser> ganastasiou, i understand that ok is this create a directory on that harddrive
[21:17] <IceWewe> phlax: 64-bit
[21:17] <fbc> There used to be a startup editor in ADD/REMOVE programs. Does anyone rememeber what it's called?
[21:17] <erUSUL> Diurpaneus: i dunno i take that the disk works on windows and other machines ? have you tried another usb port ?
[21:17] <phlax> IceWewe: thanx
[21:17] <usser> ganastasiou, sudo mkdir /media/backup/ftp_root
[21:18] <kane77> mikeyfbi, https://launchpad.net/terminator
[21:18] <usser> ganastasiou, sudo chmod a-w /media/backup/ftp_root
[21:18] <thannoy> D3RGPS31: don't know many on your but, but a wine-alsa package exists (or roughly), is it installed on your system?
[21:18] <goldins> never mind
[21:18] <Bitmess> I have tried to install many flavors all have error  pci: cannot allocate resource region 1 of  device 0000:00:14.0  The only one that loads is Puppy Linux
[21:18] <Diurpaneus> the hdd work on XP and also i tried other usb ports :(
[21:18] <thannoy> D3RGPS31: -t +g
[21:18] <ganastasiou> and change the conf?
[21:18] <usser> ganastasiou, and adjust your last line in vsftpd.conf to point to /media/backup/ftp_root
[21:18] <usser> ganastasiou, exactly
[21:18] <mikeyfbi> kane77: thank you :) :)
[21:19] <erUSUL> Diurpaneus: well then i dunno... :| it well may be a kernel bug...
[21:20] <kane77> mikeyfbi, I guess it is in the repository.. (not sure for gutsy)
[21:20] <CorbinFox> I have a new laptop and when i plug in headphones the speakers still play (sound comes out the headphones too).  any help? that and I can't get my atheros wireless card to work.  their site seems to offer no drivers to ndiswrapperize and the madwifi thing i tried didn't work.
[21:20] <Diurpaneus> maybe the usb is the problem,
[21:20] <ganastasiou> usser very good explanation
[21:21] <ganastasiou> but
[21:21] <ganastasiou> i cannot understand why icouldnt login
[21:21] <Jack_Sparrow> CorbinFox, /join #alsa
[21:21] <usser> ganastasiou, does it work now?
[21:21] <ganastasiou> i thin chmod was the secret
[21:21] <ganastasiou> yes but i want to have some changes
[21:21] <usser> ganastasiou, well your harddrive is mounted with writable access to everybody
[21:22] <ganastasiou> yeah
[21:22] <usser> ganastasiou, and your vsftpd.conf points to the "/" of your harddrive with anonymous writing enabled
[21:22] <usser> ganastasiou, its a gaping security hole which vsftpd just cant allow
[21:22] <Bitmess> anyone know about error  pci: cannot allocate resource region 1 of  device 0000:00:14.0 please?
[21:22] <ganastasiou> so noone can login to root
[21:23] <mikeyfbi> kane77: thank you!  i'll check right away.  also, do you know where i could see a 'tips and tricks' for xchat...ie using USERNAME: to send private, etc
[21:23] <usser> ganastasiou, no why, users that are known to the system can login, its only anonymous users that pose the security risk
[21:24] <ganastasiou> hmm ok
[21:24] <kane77> mikeyfbi, I'd say http://xchat.org/docs
[21:24] <usser> ganastasiou, it depends on what do u want to do
[21:24] <ganastasiou> now i should move all the files from /backup to /backup/ftp_root
[21:24] <kane77> mikeyfbi, or even better http://t0x.in/xchat.html
[21:24] <habernet> i just installed kiba dock and it disabled all of my compiz settings and i can no longer acess ccsm(nothing pops up when i click on it) how do i fix this?
[21:25] <usser> ganastasiou, if u want to setup an anonymous ftp server from which everyone can download then u should chmod a-w /media/backup
[21:25] <Diurpaneus> erUSUL: it is possible to reset by misstake the usb 2.0 ports
[21:25] <usser> ganastasiou, or disable anonymous writing capabilities in vsftpd.conf
[21:25] <ganastasiou> but i have a point here,when i login from mozilla i cant see the folders
[21:26] <usser> ganastasiou, on the other hand if you're setting up ftp server for your own personal use then disable anonymous altogether
[21:26] <erUSUL> Diurpaneus: afaik no there is no way i know of
[21:26] <ganastasiou> only with client i can see them
[21:26] <ganastasiou> disable anonymous?
[21:26] <ganastasiou> comment this on conf?
[21:26] <usser> ganastasiou, no wait
[21:26] <usser> ganastasiou, can you login with YOUR username, the one that exists on the machine
[21:27] <mikeyfbi> kane77: thanks ;)
[21:27] <kane77> mikeyfbi, np
[21:27] <Damion> so I've been poking around in Microsoft System Information
[21:28] <ganastasiou> i want it for a wireless network and for internet too when i open the port for this reason
[21:28] <ganastasiou> my first priority is wireless
[21:28] <Damion> where it says there is a problem with my secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
[21:29] <shamshel> does anyone know of a good gtk front-end to "at" or cron?
[21:29] <usser> ganastasiou, right but do you want it to be public, like a download.com or just for your own use?
[21:29] <usser> ganastasiou, anyhow to let mozilla see it you need to put something like this in conf file http://pastebin.com/m361b0c13
[21:29] <ganastasiou> i made it
[21:29] <ganastasiou> with mozilla
[21:30] <usser> ganastasiou, oh cool
[21:30] <ganastasiou> now i want only for my wireless
[21:30] <ganastasiou> soon i will make dns
[21:30] <fbc> is there any advantage using ext3 over ext2 for a usb external drive?
[21:30] <erUSUL> fbc: no
[21:31] <erUSUL> fbc: no if it is a flash drive i meant
[21:31] <usser> ganastasiou, i dont know what you mean? how is setup now?
[21:31] <unop_> fbc, yes, replaying the journal can help in recovery if your filesystem is ever in trouble
[21:31] <ganastasiou> now it is only for wireless
[21:31] <ganastasiou> its working great due to your help
[21:31] <ganastasiou> but
[21:32] <ganastasiou> i want to make some changes
[21:32] <ganastasiou> so someone can upload
[21:32] <Damion> microsoft system information says:
[21:32] <ganastasiou> not someone,anyone
[21:32] <erUSUL> !enter | ganastasiou
[21:32] <ubotu> ganastasiou: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:32] <ganastasiou> oo sorry
[21:32] <fbc> unop_, Cool thanks.. yeah it's a 500gb external drive full of my favorite shows and movies. I'd have a cow if I lost my 1969 spiderman episodes.
[21:32] <usser> ganastasiou, ok how u usually setup an ftp server
[21:33] <ganastasiou> usser, what do u mean?
[21:33] <usser> ganastasiou, is u create a special directory called upload
[21:33] <Damion> Secondary IDE Controller (dual FIFO) This device has a problem: Code 9 (0x9). Device failure: Try changing the hardware for this device. If that doesn't work, check your hardware documentation
[21:33] <Damion> do you think that might have something to do with my ubuntu/xubuntu problem?
[21:34] <fbc> unop_, one more question. should it be setup as the primary or just an extended partition..
[21:34] <usser> ganastasiou, to which random ppl can upload from anywhere else in the ftp tree they can only read
[21:34] <fbc> unop_, does it matter?
[21:34] <ganastasiou> usser, not necesserily....my default ftp directory want to be used for the same purpose
[21:34] <fbc> unop_, I figure primary partitiona are for bootable drives.
[21:34] <ganastasiou> upload and download the same dir
[21:34] <usser> ganastasiou, thats not safe!
[21:34] <unop_> fbc, it doesn't matter and if i remember correctly, you don't need to use MS-DOS disklabels, they can be sun or bsd disklabels (which don't have the concept of primary and extended partitions)
[21:35] <houmala> Is there a NVU version ubuntu ???
[21:35] <ganastasiou> i know the people who use the server
[21:35] <unop_> fbc, thats true for ms-dos disklabels yes
[21:35] <usser> ganastasiou, its just not safe to let random ppl writing access on the whole ftp tree
[21:36] <ganastasiou> it in a wireless network
[21:36] <ganastasiou> it is in a wireless network
[21:36] <gavi> folks, in ubuntu 7.10 how can i transfer files from pc to camera?
[21:36] <SnoFox> Hmm
[21:36] <usser> ganastasiou, but u said u wanted to expand it later so its accessible from the internet?
[21:36] <unop_> anyone here just recently installed ubuntu and not removed any packages since the install? i need a favour from you.
[21:36] <erUSUL> gavi: depends on the camera most function like a usb mass-storage and mount like a normal usb flash device
[21:36] <ganastasiou> yes i want to change it when i give access to internet ofc
[21:37] <SnoFox> Helps >.<
[21:37] <marx2k> man I hope the next version of Ubuntu has better NVidia integration
[21:37] <gavi> erUSUL, i pluged in the camera and it only lets me download frmo camera to a folder on the pc, i want to do it the other wya
[21:37] <usser> ganastasiou, so do it how its supposed to be done from the beginning
[21:38] <mike-ekim> Hi, I just added a new user, I am logged into user1 using Kubuntu, i opened up a terminal, did su - user2, and all worked perfectly, but when i tried to launch skype by command line 'skype &' it doesnt do anything... anyone know why?
[21:38] <mike-ekim> i tried to asssign to same groups as user1 which can launch it without a problem, any suggesstions?
[21:38] <proteus> try launching it without the & :P
[21:38] <proteus> see if there are any errors
[21:38] <erUSUL> gavi: does the camera appears mounted on your Desktop ?
[21:38] <marx2k> using & doesnt get rid of debug messages
[21:38] <gavi> no, it isnt
[21:38] <mike-ekim> no, just returns Exit
[21:38] <marx2k> I dont think...
[21:38] <mike-ekim> and does nothing
[21:38] <gavi> i dont see it in the /media/ folder either
[21:39] <ganastasiou> aha u mean i have to do it from the begging to do sth like this?
[21:40] <erUSUL> gavi: maybe it is one of the cameras that only work trough libgphoto ... have you tried with f-spot or better gtkam ???
[21:40] <SnoFox> When I open Totem Movie Player to play a .mp3 or .wma file, it has me search for the codec. When I click one of the Plugins, it says It's restricted; I click Confirm to continue the installation, and it says "The list of applications is int availabe"; when I Click "Refresh" it does something, then lets me pick the plugins again. When I click one of the plug ins, it goes back to the restricted screen, then the reload screen, so I'm stuck in a loop.
[21:40] <gavi> i have f-spot on the computer, but it looks to me that i can only download to pc and not the other way around, am i wrong?
[21:41] <gavi> never heard of gtkam... is it anygood?
[21:41] <SnoFox> What to I do? >.>
[21:41] <usser> ganastasiou, ok heres what u do
[21:41] <Hellow> How do i play encrypted dvds?
[21:41] <usser> ganastasiou, sudo chmod -R a-w /media/backup
[21:41] <usser> ganastasiou, change last line in your conf to point to /media/backup
[21:41] <usser> ganastasiou, them mv ftp_root upload
[21:42] <usser> ganastasiou, sorry mv /media/backup/ftp_root /media/backup/upload
[21:43] <ganastasiou> usser i dont want only one directory for uploading,cant do it for all the ftp tree?
[21:44] <oddar> Hello, I have a problem with a usb modem. It's from my phone service provider, for SIM-card (mobile broadband). The make is Qualcomm and model GI0205. I can't seem to find the modem under Network manager when i connect it. Help?
[21:44] <usser> ganastasiou, for that u have to disable anon_upload_enable and anon_mkdir_write_enable=YES
[21:44] <usser> ganastasiou, set them to no, u cant have a server where anonymous users have writing access to the root of it
[21:44] <ganastasiou> and put the sudo u gave me and its ready?
[21:45] <ganastasiou> itdoesnt hide my root folder?
[21:46] <usser> ganastasiou, by root i mean /media/backup
[21:46] <ganastasiou> why not?
[21:46] <J-Unit> here a terminal command to dump all open windows on the first workspace?
[21:46] <J-Unit> is there*
[21:46] <usser> ganastasiou, its not safe
[21:46] <ganastasiou> i cannot understand the reason
[21:50] <usser> ganastasiou, ok look you have an ftp server with useful files and videos and what not, one day im browsing the net and stumble upon your anonymous server which doesnt restrict me from wrecking havoc so i delete everything
[21:50] <ganastasiou> yes but i told u that i know the persons who use my ftp in wlan
[21:50] <ganastasiou> so imnot afraid of that
[21:50] <ganastasiou> but
[21:51] <ganastasiou> in internet i want to protect ftp so noone should upload
[21:51] <dryrot> how do i make sound in Skype work ?
[21:51] <unop_> ganadist, permissions also help against "accidental mistakes" by _you_ yourself and other people who use the server
[21:51] <ganastasiou> my english arent good,so sorry for misunderstanding
[21:51] <usser> ganastasiou, that means that for inet you'll have to setup another ftp server cause u cant have it both ways
[21:52] <unop_> ganadist, in anycase, it's better to be safe than sorry, it's wise to err on the side of safety
[21:52] <ChaosTheory> How do I go to the media folder in terminal?
[21:52] <usser> ganadist, if u want to do something like this then vsftpd wasnt the best choice
[21:52] <ganastasiou> aha ok
[21:52] <ilembitov> Hi, all. How do I add getdeb.net as a repo?
[21:52] <ganastasiou> now i understand u
[21:52] <usser> ganadist, i think proftpd allows stuff like that
[21:53] <balzac> Is anyone here using eBox?
[21:53] <zoobox> should http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2008-1720 but I'm just too fast?
[21:53] <ganastasiou> only proftp can combine this?
[21:53] <zoobox> *should exist, I mean
[21:54] <zoobox> balzac: what is eBox? sounds like a windowmanager....
[21:54] <ilembitov> Hi, all. How do I add getdeb.net as a repo?
[21:54] <ChaosTheory> What does it mean if your files can't be moved to the trash?
[21:54] <usser> ganastasiou, all i can say is vsftpd doesnt allows it for sure, hence the name Very Secure Ftp Daemon
[21:54] <balzac> zoobox: eBox is the configuration utility which can handle squid and other networking features
[21:55] <ChaosTheory> I tried to transfer some files onto my flash drive and some of them were corrupted and it messed the whole thing up.
[21:55] <balzac> it's for ubuntu server, i think
[21:55] <ChaosTheory> Now I'm trying to delete them and I can't?
[21:55] <RogueClown> hi...i have a question.  i'm trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 through Wubi...i burned the disk image, installed it, got through most of the first boot...and then was only given the choice to "cancel" at the documents and settings screen; i couldn't go "forward".  can anyone help me out?
[21:55] <balzac> It's good because I'm sick of editing squid config files, trying to get something to work
[21:55] <balzac> anyway, networking is really complicated, so I'm not having any success, even with eBox and its documentation
[21:56] <ChaosTheory> It says my flash drive is read-only?
[21:56] <ganastasiou> usser, ok thnx bro for your help
[21:56] <usser> ganastasiou, no problem
[21:56] <balzac> is there a separate channel for ubuntu server?
[21:56] <unop_> balzac, #ubuntu-server
[21:56] <balzac> thanks
[21:57] <saltedlight> hi everyone. i need some advices to setup an dns auto-updater on a server with a dynamic ip... anyone have any ideas?
[21:57] <balzac> everyone is idling in #ubuntu-server
[21:58] <Cygnis1__> hi guys
[21:58] <balzac> and #ebox too
[21:58] <Cygnis1__> can anyone help me with bluetooth?
[21:58] <balzac> the problem is, most people on irc don't know anything! we're all seeking those who know something.
[22:02] <FFEMTcJ> what is the command line code to tell me how much disk space im using/is free
[22:02] <xlriut> -df
[22:02] <xlriut> *df
[22:02] <xlriut> df -h
[22:02] <MadProcessor> df -h
[22:02] <level09_> how do I allow php scripts to create files / change permissions etc ...
[22:03] <MadProcessor> crap, too slow
[22:03] <J-Unit> that international clock thing for hardy (i installed it on gutsy) y r my letters on the date and time numbers lower than the middle unlike my normal default gutsy clock?
[22:03] <m0dY> is it possible to extend the size of a loopback file ?
[22:03] <FFEMTcJ> ty
[22:04] <unop_> level09_, you should be careful when implementing sites that allow that kind of control - but php allows you to perform shell commands to do those kind of job (use with caution), more on that in #php
[22:05] <level09_> unop_: changing files ownership to root user should do that right ?
[22:05] <unop_> level09_, i'm not sure what you mean there exactly, please clarify.
[22:07] <gerlando> Ho bisogno di una grandissima mano c'è qualcuno disposto a darmela?
[22:08] <Tdk200> Devo ripristinare ubuntu come era prima adesso nn va + nulla
[22:08] <Tdk200> :S
[22:08] <level09_> I want to make apache process the owner of my files, so it can have permissions
[22:08] <zoobox> gerlando/Tdk200, wrong language?
[22:08] <Tdk200> I'm italian
[22:08] <Starnestommy> !it | Tdk200
[22:08] <ubotu> Tdk200: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:08] <Piero_Scaruffi> Bon Giorno Tdk200
[22:08] <ganastasiou> usser,i have a problem
[22:09] <Tdk200> piero sai ripristinare ubuntu senza formattare?
[22:09] <ganastasiou> i cannot save anything on ftp tree:S
[22:09] <Piero_Scaruffi> sorry english only
[22:09] <Piero_Scaruffi> Tdk200
[22:09] <zoobox> yeah probably mor people that understands italian in #ubuntu-it  hehe :-)
[22:10]  * James__D wants to knnow if someone  can give him directions for easy grub configuration in Ubuntu?
[22:11] <Fish-Guts> hi folks. i changed my Login Window in gnome, and GDM is not working anymore. can i change the login theme in the console somehow?
[22:11] <xlriut> I am trying to get Fn+home brightness keys working on my Thinkpad X60. It worked out of the box in Gnome but not in Fluxbox. I installed tpb and added the user to the nvram group but it still doesn't work. Any ideas?
[22:11] <Piero_Scaruffi> :-)
[22:12] <TwinX> Fish-Guts; how did you do that, more detail pls.
[22:12] <jacob_> ok, now would someone explain why the last upgrade made my laptop a bit freaky? (the window bar (include the close, maximize, minimize buttons)
[22:12] <zoobox> hi James_D. I think there is a edit-grubs-menu.lst-applicatio.... but I don't remember its name. and perhaps it is KDE-styled.......
[22:12] <jacob_> are gone
[22:13] <Fish-Guts> TwinX: i just changed my GDM login theme to a custom one i created, but somehow it got messed up and i can't start the xserver again
[22:13] <CannibalM> ok so here is a simple one,
[22:13] <CannibalM> ubuntu server, how the heck can I get my network card to function?!
[22:14] <oddar> Hello, I have a problem with a usb modem. It's from my phone service provider, for SIM-card (mobile broadband). The make is Qualcomm and model GI0205. I can't seem to find the modem under Network manager when i connect it. Help?
[22:15] <alexander_> hello_
[22:15] <James___D> Thanks.  I will look for the utility.  Later.
[22:15] <alexander_> can somebody help me with wireless network...
[22:16] <Odd-rationale> alexander_: what trouble are you having?
[22:16] <tommmied> has anyone ever used linuxdc++?  I been using it for a couple of days fine, then all of a sudden, when i goto use it the cpu goes to 100% and it crashes
[22:17] <Ax-Ax> amarok is better than rythmbox y/n?
[22:17] <Odd-rationale> !best | Ax-Ax
[22:17] <ubotu> Ax-Ax: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[22:17] <Seveas> tommmied, that's ubuntu's built-in anti piracy filter
[22:17] <Ax-Ax> lolol
[22:17] <Ax-Ax> i was really serious too
[22:18] <mysterycool> how can i play a dvd with my ubuntu gutsy?
[22:18] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: encrypted dvd?
[22:18] <mysterycool> i just rented it from the store but it won't play in ubuntu
[22:18] <mysterycool> odd-rationale: well, it is an original, so most probably encrypted :s
[22:19] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: let me get you the command...
[22:19] <Seveas> !dvd | mysterycool
[22:19] <mysterycool> ...
[22:19] <ubotu> mysterycool: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[22:19] <Seveas> bot's being slow again
[22:19] <tommmied> Seveas, haha are you serious ?
[22:19] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: what player are you using?
[22:19] <mysterycool> Totem
[22:19] <mysterycool> the default one
[22:19] <Seveas> tommmied, no, but we don't support piracy in here (and contrary to bittorrent, I've never seen a  legal use for dc++)
[22:19] <scottyL> I'm thinking about installing Gutsy Server on an old computer and want to format XP off of it.... any reason I shouldn't just type format c: ?
[22:20] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: you will have to replace it with totem-xine in order to play encypted dvds
[22:20] <hischild> scottyL, no need to format. You can create partitions during install.
[22:20] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: to do that do: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[22:20] <tommmied> Seveas, this isn't about piracy.  i am trying to figure out why ubuntu all of a sudden crashes
[22:20] <mysterycool> hmm
[22:20] <scottyL> hischild: But... I don't want to keep XP on there. Wouldn't it just take up space I could use otherwise?
[22:20] <mysterycool> k thanks! ;)
[22:20] <scottyL> I'm not going to be using XP anymore
[22:21] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: it will warn you that it will remove totem-gstreamer. but that is ok.
[22:21] <tommmied> and how to find out whats going on when it crashes so I can use this as a guide in th future
[22:21] <mysterycool> kk
[22:21] <mysterycool> c:
[22:21] <mysterycool> :D
[22:21] <XsPiDeR> mysterycool: install gstream-plugins-ugly
[22:21] <hischild> scottyL, if you want to remove XP, you can remove the partitions that contain XP during installation. Then you can create one or more partitions to use for ubuntu gutsy.
[22:21] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: tell when that is done
[22:21] <sebastian_> #ubuntu-es
[22:22] <scottyL> hischild: So, all I should do is boot the computer with the CD in the drive and take care of it that way?
[22:22] <tommmied> Seveas, can you tell me what you would do to find out what was causing an app to crash and use full cpu?
[22:22] <mysterycool> odd-rationale: kk
[22:22] <jonphilpott_> anyone got any packaging-fu that can help me create a debian package?
[22:22] <hischild> scottyL, that's the easiest way to do it yes.
[22:22] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: now for the codecs: do : sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 libxine1-ffmpeg
[22:22] <scottyL> hischild: Thanks anyway
[22:23] <Seveas> tommmied, the crashlogs generated by apport. Though that doesn't work for non-ubuntu software like dc++
[22:23] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: and let me know when that is finished...
[22:23] <mysterycool> odd-rationale: sec plz, downloading totem-xine, just found it XD
[22:23] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: ok.
[22:23] <mysterycool> 2 mins remaining :D
[22:23] <mysterycool> :D
[22:23] <mysterycool> :)
[22:23] <mysterycool> =]
[22:23] <mysterycool> =D
[22:23] <FloodBot2> mysterycool: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <tommmied> Seveas, what other methods would you use for non ubuntu software?
[22:24] <Seveas> tommmied, I'd hack apport to trap the crashes anyway :)
[22:24] <tommmied> how would you do something like that... :-/
[22:25] <Seveas> that's left as an excercise for the reader
[22:25] <tommmied> Oh ok,
[22:25] <James___D> quit
[22:25] <Seveas> as said, I don't support piracy and software used exclusively for that purpose
[22:25] <James___D> oops
[22:25] <Seveas> James___D, have a /
[22:26] <mysterycool> odd-rationale: downloaded totem-sine
[22:26] <tommmied> Saveas understood but this happens to more then just that kind of software
[22:26] <mysterycool> *xine
[22:26] <mysterycool> *^totem-xine
[22:26] <mysterycool> c:
[22:26] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: did you get the codecs, too?
[22:26] <mysterycool> odd-rationale: codecs? :s
[22:26] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: you will need these codecs: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 libxine1-ffmpeg
[22:27] <Damion> so I'm still trying to fix my install problem
[22:27] <mysterycool> odd-rationale: ok, downloading codecs
[22:27] <mysterycool> :D
[22:28] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: notify me when finished
[22:28] <mysterycool> odd-rationale: kk
[22:28] <mysterycool> odd-rationale: done, downloaded :D
[22:28] <Damion> I found a bug ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/153991 ) that says I need to edit /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
[22:28] <mysterycool> odd-rationale: now what?
[22:28] <sebastian_> Fatal Error vmware server an apt-based....????
[22:28] <Damion> can you do that on a livecd, though?
[22:28] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: now do this command: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[22:29] <mysterycool> odd-rationale: k, done the command, now what?
[22:29] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: any errors?
[22:29] <Odd-rationale> messages?
[22:29] <mysterycool> odd-rationale: nope, none at all
[22:29] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: try the dvd
[22:29] <mysterycool> kk
[22:29] <mysterycool> Odd-rationale: hang on a sec plz
[22:30] <mysterycool> Odd-rationale: inserted
[22:30] <sebastian_> HELP!!!
[22:30] <sebastian_> Fatal Error vmware server an apt-based..
[22:30]  * Odd-rationale waits anxiously...
[22:30] <mysterycool> o_O
[22:30] <mysterycool> thanks! ;)
[22:30] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: :)
[22:31] <mysterycool> odd-rationale: ty!
[22:31] <mysterycool> Odd-rationale: off to watch the movie! Thanks again! ;) Cya! ;) :D
[22:31] <DB42> hi
[22:31] <mysterycool> Laterz guyz!
[22:31] <mysterycool> Night all! :D
[22:32] <Odd-rationale> mysterycool: np. goodnight. what movie?
[22:32] <sebastian_> no idea?
[22:32] <Odd-rationale> nvm
[22:32] <DB42> i am using 7.10 and seem to have both "klogd" and "syslogd" and both "anacron" and "atd" running, do i need them both ?
[22:32] <sebastian_> is automatix!!!
[22:32] <sebastian_> ?'
[22:32] <Damion> I still haven't had any luck with my busybox problem.
[22:32] <DB42> i am using 7.10 and seem to have both "klogd" and "syslogd" and both "anacron" and "atd" running, do i need them both ?
[22:32] <Damion> Installing ubuntu was supposed to be waaay easier than this =(
[22:32] <Damion> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=752504
[22:33] <Starnestommy> Damion: have you tried the alternate CDs?
[22:33] <Damion> no
[22:33] <DB42> i am using 7.10 and seem to have both "klogd" and "syslogd" and both "anacron" and "atd" running in the "services", do i need them both ? if not,m which ones ?
[22:33] <Starnestommy> Damion: if the regular CDs fail, try the alternate
[22:34] <TwinX> DB42; you can uninstall atd
[22:34] <Ubuntong> How can i get desktop effects to work on ati radeon 3850?
[22:35] <Damion> I kind of wanted to test out ubuntu before I got rid of my other OS
[22:36] <marina> HI!
[22:36] <Damion> is there no way to do that if the CDs just crash with busybox errors every time I try them?
[22:36] <scottyL> I'm installing Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10 Server and I'm running into a problem wiht the DHCP network autoconfiguration
[22:36] <Odd-rationale> marina: hello
[22:36] <Starnestommy> Damion: you could try Ubuntu in a virtual machine
[22:37] <damaltor_> Damion: do the error check feature first.
[22:37] <Damion> do you mean "Check CD Integrity"?
[22:37] <damaltor_> Damion: yes
[22:37] <Damion> I get the same error listed in that forums post when I try and check CD integrity
[22:37] <Damion> on both ubuntu and xubuntu
[22:38] <scottyL> This is a pretty dumb question... but, how can I find out if I have a DHCP network?
[22:38] <damaltor_> Damion: well, if you get an error while checking integrity, you ought to re-download and re-burn.
[22:38] <scottyL> I'm pretty sure that the answer is "if you have to ask, you don't have one"
 Damion: well, if you get an error while checking integrity, you ought to re-download and re-burn. <-- this is on a factory-shipped liveCD
[22:38] <scottyL> Or, "I'm doing this at my house, so it's likely I don't have one"
[22:38] <damaltor_> scottyL: do you have a router?
[22:38] <scottyL> Yup
[22:38] <Damion> and I get the same error, word for word, on my home-burnt xubuntu liveCD
[22:39] <scottyL> damaltor: Yes, we have a wireless Linksys N router (which supports B and G, which covers the wireless card my computer has)
[22:39] <Damion> which I burnt at 8x off of a satisfactory hash
[22:39] <damaltor_> Damion: try to download by hand and burn. if the integrity is not ok, the disks are erroneus
[22:39] <Damion> I tried that
[22:39] <damaltor_> scottyL: do you have to set up ip numbers manually?
[22:39] <Starnestommy> Damion: try a lower burn speed
[22:39] <imran> hello
[22:39] <Damion> 8x is low as I can go
[22:39] <scottyL> damaltor_: Nope, they are automatically assigned
[22:39] <damaltor_> scottyL: well, THIS is dhcp.
[22:40] <Starnestommy> scottyL: then it's most likely DHCP
[22:40] <scottyL> Well... it didn't work correctly
[22:40] <scottyL> I guess I'll retry the autoconfiguration
[22:40] <damaltor_> Damion: try other empty cds. get some wich you can burn with about 4x
[22:40] <damaltor_> scottyL: yes. but remember, there has to be a cable conection.
[22:41] <Ubuntong> How can i get desktop effects to work on ati radeon 3850? anyone?
[22:41] <imran> hi
[22:41] <Damion> on both my download-by-hand copy and my factory copy, when trying to check CD integrity (or start the LiveCD) after the orange loading bar shows, it drops me into busybox
[22:41] <imran> it is very difficult
[22:41] <scottyL> damaltor_: Do you mean that the box must be wired to the router?
[22:41] <imran> do you want it for compiz fusion?
[22:41] <damaltor_> Damion: that is bad... as long as the disc doesnt pass the integrity test, you have no real chance
[22:41] <Damion> where it spits out a list of error messages that I've posted here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=752504
[22:41] <TwinX> !who
[22:41] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[22:42] <damaltor_> scottyL: yes
[22:42] <imran> sorry. I am new
[22:42] <scottyL> damlator_: Well, then, that's certainly my problem. I'm trying to connect wirelessly
[22:42] <Damion> Damaltor: I just find it odd that two different discs, for two different distros, one produced at home and one factory-shipped, would produce the exact same error
[22:42] <Damion> and it's because I burned at 8x rather than 4x
[22:42] <damaltor_> scottyL: try a cable while installing.
[22:42] <Intertricity> Hey.. I have a server install configured, and I was just now able to get the internet hooked up so I had to disable dhcp configuration. How do I go back to configuring it now?
[22:42] <DB42> i am using 7.10 and seem to have both "klogd" and "syslogd" and both "anacron" and "atd" running in the "services", do i need them both ? if not,m which ones ?
[22:43] <DB42> what about klogd / syslogd ?
[22:43] <scottyL> damaltor_: 10-4, thanks. It's odd that it supports a wireless connection, though, but whatever I can do
[22:43] <xlriut> Hello, I am trying to get my Fn+Home brightness keys working on X60. It works out of the box in GNOME but not in Fluxbox. I installed tpb but it still doesn't work. Any ideas? Thanks.
[22:43] <scottyL> damaltor_: If it doesn't work, can I continue on and just not configure the network at this time? I do want this computer to be a wireless server
[22:43] <damaltor_> scottyL: you will need the network connection for installing
[22:44] <scottyL> damaltor_: OK, then I'll wire and set it up for a wireless connection later
[22:44] <scottyL> damaltor_: Thanks, if I continue to have problems, you know I'll come back ;)
[22:44] <Intertricity> Hey.. I have a server install configured, and I was just now able to get the internet hooked up so I had to disable dhcp configuration. How do I go back to configuring it now?
[22:44] <neozen-work> yay for having a solid client
[22:44] <damaltor_> scottyL: np. be right back
[22:45]  * neozen-work fires an anvil @ the retreating Abrefel
[22:45] <philidox> I have a specific question about ubuntu mobile anyone got a experience with it?
[22:45] <Odd-rationale> philidox: try in #ubuntu-mobile
[22:45] <philidox> ok
[22:45] <misieq> hi! how can i set up a framebuffer console on ubuntu 7.10 x64?
[22:45] <eltornado> salut tout le monde
[22:46] <Starnestommy> misieq: you may want to check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652038
[22:46] <eltornado> s'il vous plait mon ubunut freeze en interface gdm j'arrive a y' acceder en ssh mais je n'arrive pas a identifier la cause du freeze
[22:46] <tommmied> when i try to install a program i get this error dependency is not satisfiable: libpango1.0-0
[22:46] <hischild> !fr  | eltornado
[22:46] <ubotu> eltornado: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:46] <gerlando> #ubuntu.it
[22:47] <tommmied> i looked into synaptic and all the libraries are checked for Pango
[22:47] <misieq> Starnestommy: i shall see to that right now, thanks
[22:49] <Ubuntong> How can i get desktop effects to work on ati radeon 3850? a nudge in the right direction please?
[22:49] <hischild> !ati | Ubuntong
[22:49] <ubotu> Ubuntong: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:49] <Diurpaneus> ubuntu romania>?
[22:49] <Starnestommy> !ro | Diurpaneus
[22:49] <ubotu> Diurpaneus: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[22:49] <Ubuntong> hischild: thanks you!
[22:50] <arjan> l
[22:53] <tommmied> does anyone know what that means ?
[22:53] <Intertricity> Hey.. I have a server install configured, and I was just now able to get the internet hooked up so I had to disable dhcp configuration. How do I go back to configuring it now?
[22:53] <Intertricity> er, how do I get my internet working on this now-- ifup doesn't work
[22:54] <cschneid> I'm attempting to get wireless up and running on 8.04 64bit, I built the newest ndiswrapper, registered a win xp64 driver, and now when I modprobe, the modprobe process goes into the "D" state (in ps), which is uninterruptible sleep.  Any ideas on what's going wrong?
[22:55] <level09_> how to I grant write permission to a specific user ?
[22:55] <aurax> when hardy is going to be released?
[22:55] <hischild> !hardy | aurax
[22:55] <ubotu> aurax: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:55] <Odd-rationale> cschneid: for questions related to 8.04 try askin in #ubuntu+1
[22:56] <dryrot> how do i get sound working in Skype ?
[22:57] <_Andrew> dryrot, try "aoss skype" no quotes in the cmd
[22:57] <Adpad> hi guys! how do i query a website from the console - like to send an SMS message?
[22:57] <odinriiko> Is there anything new you have to do in 8.4 to get dvd playback working?
[22:58] <unop_> odinriiko, see above for the note on 8.04
[22:58] <_Andrew> odinriiko, As far as I know you just play the dvd and when it asks to install extra codecs to read the dvd click install
[22:59] <dryrot> _Andrew: what package has 'aoss' ?
[22:59] <odinriiko> unop_ Sorry, for not readin' the whole topic.
[22:59] <_Andrew> dryrot, apt-get install aoss
[23:00] <herby_> i got a question: does dmesg display all harddisk errors? does it display them, if the system is running a raid?
[23:00] <dryrot> _Andrew: i get the error ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[23:00] <Adpad> hi guys! how do i query a website from the console - like to send a cellular phone text message from a web portal?
[23:00] <_Andrew> dryrot, oh wow, is this in gutsy?
[23:00] <dryrot> _Andrew: yeah... fine ill go to #ubuntu+1
[23:00] <_Andrew> dryrot, huh?
[23:00] <cpk1> !mp3
[23:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:01] <level09_> is there a command to display permissions as numbers ?
[23:01] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[23:01] <dryrot> oops i mean 'i am using hardy'
[23:01] <Jaffarkelshac> i get tired of typing ip address when using vnc and ssh and ... is there a way to get the hostnames resolved
[23:01] <wubrgamer> how do i change my hostname, and KEEP it changed?
[23:01] <herby_> if you dont like the numbers use the u+w syntax
[23:01] <_Andrew> dryrot, oh right, you're using something different in hardy, I think Skypes been broken
[23:01] <dryrot> wubrgamer: edit /etc/hostname
[23:01] <_Andrew> dryrot, I mean some different audio called pulseaudio
[23:01] <unop_> !hostname | wubrgamer
[23:01] <Adpad> can someone please help me set up network and file sharing between ubuntu and windows?
[23:02] <ubotu> wubrgamer: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[23:02] <Jaffarkelshac> level09_, i dont think so, but its pretty easy to remember
[23:02] <DjViper> Adpad: just rightclick on something and select 'share'
[23:02] <DjViper> Adpad: use samba / smb
[23:02] <matthew__> I know this isn't really about ubuntu, but I can't get my apache2 server to work, it thinks perfectly fine syntax is wrong causes a syntax error on startup.
[23:02] <Adpad> DjViper: I've tried that, but still unable to see either computer on the network
[23:02] <matthew__> oops, *and
[23:02] <DjViper> Adpad: make sure both are on the same workgroup
[23:03] <Adpad> DjViper:  I've confirmed that
[23:03] <Adpad> They are both on the same workgroup :)
[23:03] <_Andrew> Adpad, Can you ping the machines?
[23:03] <DjViper> reboot :>
[23:03] <Adpad> hehe
[23:03] <Adpad> _Andrew:  will try ping now
[23:04] <_Andrew> Adpad, Did you plug the network cord in? :P
[23:04] <Midtronic> Howdy.  I have kubuntu gutsy on a box, and just installed xubuntu hardy on a new one.  On the kubuntu, I have this nice feature in bash where I can tab complete command line programs (apt, svn, etc.).  I don't know what package it is, though, and I don't have it on the Hardy.  Any idea what the package is?
[23:04] <Adpad> _Andrew: hehe, good point -- jj :)
[23:04] <wubrgamer> i did that, it lose the changes on reboot
[23:04] <Adpad> the other machine is vista unfortunately
[23:04] <matthew__> vista is BAD!
[23:05] <matthew__> just my 3 cents
[23:05] <Adpad> _Andrew: I can ping the other machine
[23:05] <Midtronic> nevermind, I'm an idiot
[23:05] <hischild> matthew__, this is the support channel. Please refrain from those comments.
[23:05] <matthew__> oh, ok
[23:05] <matthew__> sry
[23:05] <herby_> _adpad: can you ping both sides?
[23:06] <unop_> level09_,  stat -c "%a" /path/to/file
[23:06] <_Andrew> Adpad, Why don't you share a file on windows and copy that way? Or are you setting up you ubuntu box to be a fileshare server or some thing?
[23:06] <Adpad> herby_:  how to I obtain my Ubuntu machine's IP address?
[23:06] <unop_> Adpad, ifconfig
[23:06] <Adpad> _Andrew:  I can't copy in either direction unfortunately
[23:06] <herby_> _adpad: try ifconfig
[23:06] <level09_> unop_: thanks
[23:06] <Adpad> unop_, herby_:  thank you
[23:06] <Adpad> going to try ping from the other side, brb
[23:06] <_Andrew> Adpad,  You can't copy from Ubuntu? Did you enable windows filesharing?
[23:07] <Adpad> able to ping from both sides
[23:07] <Adpad> _Andrew: I have enabled windows filesharing - however, it is Vista default password protected
[23:07] <Adpad> I don't want to drop this 'security' feature, since it's a laptop
[23:07] <cpk1> Adpad: this is a pretty good how to for samba http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[23:07] <Adpad> cpk1: thanks, will look now
[23:08] <damaltor_> scottyL: does it work now?
[23:08] <Adpad> thanks for all the help guys
[23:09] <Adpad> does this type networking not work "out of the box" ?
[23:09] <Adpad> must configure samba, right?
[23:09] <_Andrew> Adpad, Shouldn't be too hard
[23:09] <gargan-> what is the button to escape from fullscreen with the terminal server client?
[23:09] <Adpad> ok :D
[23:10] <Adpad> Does anyone know if there is a way to contact a site from the terminal - like send an HTTP query?
[23:10] <linkinxp> why i have a delay for my Wireless icons and other icons to appear when my system boots up (never happened before)
[23:11] <Starnestommy> Adpad: a raw http query?
[23:11] <cpk1> Adpad:  you can browse the web from a terminal using links, if you want to download something and know the source you can use wget
[23:11] <Adpad> Starnestommy: Yes, to query an SMS (text message) service
[23:11] <_Andrew> Adpad, What you mean like get or post?
[23:12] <lordleemo> gargan-: Ctrl-Alt-Enter
[23:12] <Starnestommy> Adpad: telnet server.name 80
[23:12] <Adpad> ah, so a simple telnet should work:) thanks
[23:12] <_Andrew> Adpad, If you want to download a file wget url
[23:12] <Adpad> cpk1: thank you
[23:12] <Adpad> _Andrew:  I think that answers my question, thanks very much
[23:13] <Adpad> Starnestommy: I'll give that a shot first, thanks a lot
[23:13] <xlriut> Hello, I am trying to get my Fn+Home brightness keys working on X60. It works out of the box in GNOME but not in Fluxbox. I installed tpb but it still doesn't work. Any ideas? Thanks.
[23:13] <ganastasiou> need help
[23:13] <ganastasiou> i changed the permissions on a partition
[23:14] <ashaiba> is anyone here good with amarok
[23:14] <ganastasiou> and i dont know how to recover the default option
[23:14] <xlriut> ganadist, can you elaborate what you need help with?
[23:14] <cheesypieces> hi guys, can anyone recommend something similar to the vista/google sidebar for ubuntu?
[23:14] <Adpad> ashaiba: Not bad - what's up?  You can try #kubuntu perhaps too
[23:14] <xlriut> cheesypieces, gdesklet
[23:14] <herby_> i don't want a slow sidebar :)
[23:15] <gargan-> what about the indexing aspect of it?
[23:15] <cheesypieces> are there any other alternatives to gdesklet? i'm not that keen
[23:15] <dryder> hi everybody, how can change ownership from root to me of an external usb drive in ntfs format?
[23:15] <xlriut> cheeseypieces, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2344945
[23:15] <_Andrew> xlriut, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481853 apparently this post says aumix
[23:16] <scottyL> damaltor_: No, it doesn't
[23:16] <martyn_> Hi guys and gals. Has anyone any knowledge of troubleshooting SSH connections between Gutsy 32 bit and 64 bit? I can't connect to 64 bit but can connect to any other Ubuntu versions within the LAN. Any ideas?
[23:16] <Adpad> guys: I found my problem with filesharing to be related to my Firewall Firestarter not being correctly setup.  Can anyone recommend how I set this up please? :)
[23:17] <Jckf> How can I convert an img file to iso?
[23:17] <scottyL> damaltor_: I'm still trying to figure it out, but right now I'm doing some manual labor >.<
[23:17] <xlriut> _Andrew, thanks but that only controls volume, not brightness
[23:17] <damaltor> scottyL: uuh.. did you connect a cable? and then maybe restarted the installation?
[23:17] <bastid_raZor> Jckf; poweriso is a nice tool. google for it.
[23:17] <scottyL> damaltor_: I inserted a cable and tried to connect again, yes
[23:17] <hischild> bastid_raZor, isn't that windows only?
[23:18] <damaltor> scottyL: try restarting the whole thing
[23:18] <scottyL> damaltor: But, well, there could be some errors... I'm going to check that the wire is 100% working and then try it again... but, for some reason, the DHCP server isn't being recognized
[23:18] <Jckf> bastid_raZor: I'm in Ubuntu. Isn't PowerISO a Windows thing?
[23:18] <scottyL> damaltor: Restart the whole installation?
[23:18] <hischild> scottyL, sudo dhclient doesn't work for you?
[23:18] <damaltor> scottyL: double check the cable, if it doesnt change anything, restart the install
[23:19] <scottyL> hischild: I am on a windows machine, no sudo on this baby
[23:19] <scottyL> I'm setting up my very first Ubuntu machine
[23:19] <scottyL> Well, linux at all
[23:19] <hischild> scottyL, right. I see. That's good.
[23:19] <Adpad> When I view the windows machine from Ubuntu - I can access the ENTIRE file system - not just things that are shared... Is that normal of Windows?!?!
[23:19] <scottyL> And it's havin trouple trying to configure the network
[23:19] <hischild> scottyL, during install? what cd do you have?
[23:19] <scottyL> damaltor: Aww, geeze
[23:19] <damaltor> :P
[23:20] <scottyL> hischild: 7.10 Server
[23:20] <Adpad> also, are connections across operating systems using smb generally fairly slow?
[23:20] <hischild> Adpad, it's called administrative shares. And yes.
[23:20] <scottyL> OK, cable works
[23:20] <Adpad> hischild: okay, so it isn't a security risk from the windows machine -- it's based on administrative passwords?
[23:20] <Jaffarkelshac> that would depend on your network Adpad
[23:21] <hischild> scottyL, right. Well if the lights blink it should be able to get an ip automatically by dhcp. If not, you can manually assign one.
[23:21] <Adpad> Jaffarkelshac: I see, so I shouldn't just _expect_ it to be slower?
[23:21] <bastid_raZor> hischild; jckf negative.. i have poweriso .. i used it just a few days ago
[23:21] <hischild> Adpad, most ppl don't have administrative passwords on their pc's.
[23:21] <hischild> bastid_raZor, on linux?
[23:21] <scottyL> Wewt
[23:21] <scottyL> Network succeeded
[23:21] <bastid_raZor> hischild; yes.. 7.10
[23:21] <hischild> bastid_raZor, right. Native or emulated?
[23:21] <scottyL> Thanks, damaltor and hischild
[23:22] <Adpad> hischild: I'm confused -- isn't it an advantage to have one on a windowz machine? sorry for asking a noob question
[23:22] <Jaffarkelshac> across wireless is pretty slow for big files unless you have a 108 network otherwise for huge files use wired connection Adpad
[23:22] <bastid_raZor> hischild; native.. here is the link :: http://www.poweriso.com/download.htm .. jckf
[23:22] <hischild> Adpad, that's ok. It can be considered to a security risk, yet sometimes it's useful. Depends on your point of view.
[23:22] <hischild> bastid_raZor, right thanks
[23:22] <Adpad> hischild: okay - thanks for your help
[23:23] <Adpad> Jaffarkelshac: It seems to have sped up 10fold  - was just slow initially, much better now.  Thanks a lot
[23:23] <Adpad> excellent help in #ubuntu, if I may just say how happy I am since moving across to linux from Windows!
[23:24] <Adpad> now one more thing ;) How can I set up firestarter to allow filetransfer across the network -- or do I just drop my firewall whenever I want to achieve this?  Seems like overkill ...
[23:24] <damaltor> scottyL: np
[23:24] <askand> Hi, I can boot the livecd ok, the install goes great but on reboot everything is black..I dont think it is related to my graphicsdrivers cause it is black right after the grubmenu, i dont even see the splashscreen...please help me!
[23:24] <Elaztic> has anyone tried to setup a Buffalo Linkstation on a linux box?
[23:24] <matthew__> how can I totally get rid of my apache2 installation? Even the complete remove in synaptic leaves some files
[23:24] <bastid_raZor> hischild; i'm glad you asked.. i needed to get the newest version :)
[23:24] <hischild> Adpad, you can use filetransfer by default :-)
[23:24] <hischild> bastid_raZor, there's a use for everything ;-)
[23:24] <andykelley> I've got this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/84762
[23:24] <andykelley> anyone know how to fix it?
[23:24] <Jaffarkelshac> adamb, if you dont know what the port is, just look at the events and allow the ports it bloks
[23:24] <Adpad> hischild: my networking wasn't working until I dropped firestarter though
[23:25] <herby_> does suspend work with your hardware? if i choose to suspend it won't come up again
[23:25] <Adpad> Jaffarkelshac: okay, will look at that
[23:25] <hischild> Adpad, i never used firestarter to begin with, might be related to it.
[23:26] <scottyL> Quick question: If I want the installation to delete XP and use the entire disk, should I Choose "Guided - use entire disk" ?
[23:26] <matthew__> yes
[23:26] <Adpad> hischild:  do you recommend a different firewall, or do you not use one at all?
[23:26] <hischild> scottyL, you can do that.
[23:26] <andykelley> anyone know how to fix the 'freezing mouse usb' problem?
[23:26] <hischild> Adpad, i use iptables by hand if i really have a reason for one.
[23:27] <herby_> scottyL, if you have the whole disk for ubuntu, then you can do that.
[23:27] <xlriut> Okay, I am able to increase my brightness through echo "up" >/proc/acpi/ibm/brightness, but I can only do this through root, otherwise I get a permission denied error. How can I allow a normal user to use this command?
[23:28] <remi> I just upgraded to hardy heron beta, and jockey-gtk crashes from time to time. and when I do "apt-get install jockey-gtk" it says that I have the latest version available. what can I do?
[23:28] <crimsun> xlriut: well, you don't want a normal user to be able to do that...
[23:28] <scottyL> Awesome, thanks
[23:28] <misieq> i've been trying to set up framebuffer console using this tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652038 and everything works quite fine except i can't make higher resolutions work
[23:28] <crimsun> xlriut: (or did you mean using `sudo'?)
[23:28] <misieq> i get this output from hwinfo: http://rafb.net/p/ecnMuY38.html that says i should use mode 0x037d for 1920x1200, but when i do that, I only get blinking underscore in console
[23:29] <hischild> !hardy | remi
[23:29] <ubotu> remi: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:29] <xlriut> crimsun, sudo doesn't work
[23:29] <Pirate_Hunter> I'm in need of a recommended app that shows how fast my net connection, the upstream and downstream and other necessary information, can someone recommend it plz?
[23:29] <matthew__> Anyone know how to completely remove apache2? Even the complete remove option in synaptic leaves some files I need to get rid of.
[23:29] <crimsun> xlriut: echo up|sudo tee /proc/acpi/ibm/brightness
[23:29] <hischild> Pirate_Hunter, use system monitor. system -> administration -> system monitor.
[23:29] <misieq> any ideas what can i do to enable high-res for fb console with x64 gutsy?
[23:29] <hischild> Pirate_Hunter, or you can get conky and create a config file that will show this for you.
[23:29] <remi> hischild: thanks!
[23:30] <xlriut> crimsun, oh that worked! thank you!
[23:30] <Intertricity> alright I can manage to get my ethernet card connecting to my router via dhclient.. how do I run dhclient for every subsequent reboot now? x.x
[23:30] <Adpad> Pirate_Hunter:  conky is great for that -- check out http://www.kimchikid.com/blog/2008/04/06/how-to-make-a-gorgeus-and-cool-desktop-for-your-ubuntu-linux-machine-in-30-minutes/
[23:30] <Adpad> hehe :)  got some conky information and a great example of a config file
[23:32] <matthewb> Anyone know how I can completely remove apache2? Even the complete remove option in synaptic leaves some files I need to get rid of.
[23:33] <flojan> feeeuer
[23:36] <maihem> I am having a problem with wireless connectivity on a sony vaio laptop that use to work fine and still works in Vista. the wireless interface, eth1, is up but with no ipaddress configured and dmesg shows this error: "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready". The module in use for wireless is ipw3945. Any ideas?
[23:37] <eduardo> maihem: it seems like noone is active
[23:37] <mrmiggidude> hello!
[23:37] <eduardo> lol
[23:37] <maihem> hello
[23:37] <mrmiggidude> Guys, my java is really messed up.
[23:38] <maihem> mrmiggidude: know anything about wireless?
[23:38] <Intertricity> Anyone know how I can get my server to run dhclient every time it boots up?
[23:38] <eduardo> mrmiggidude: state the problem
[23:38] <crazyawesome13> im a n00b anyone know any other channels
[23:38] <maihem> Intertricity: have you got the interface configured in /etc/interfaces or are you currently relying on networkmanager?
[23:39] <mads-> hi
[23:39] <mrmiggidude> okay, so my Java doesn't work too well in firefox. The myspace music player on pages won't play. And youtube videos look like this. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/MrMiggiDude/youtubeplay.jpg
[23:39] <mads-> whats the easiest way to share an ntfs disk in ubuntu over the network, to be read by a windows machine?
[23:39] <mrmiggidude> I can't alter volume, search through the video, or replay it on youtube.
[23:40] <Pirate_Hunter> hischild, Adpad: thanx will check it out
[23:40] <maihem> mrmiggidude: youtube doesn't use java, it uses flash. check if you've got gnash installed and uninstall it the install the adobe player from the canonical partner repository
[23:40] <maihem> mads, samba
[23:40] <mrmiggidude> maihem, okay.
[23:41] <Intertricity> maihem: it's all via console so..
[23:41] <Intertricity> lemme check interfaces
[23:41] <herby_> does the gnash plugin work at all?
[23:41] <maihem> mrmiggidude: install nautilus-share (or something like that) from synaptic to get things set up in the easiest way (gives you right-click sharing)
[23:41] <maihem> oops, I meant to direct that to mads
[23:41] <maihem> Intertricity: I think it is /etc/network/interfaces
[23:42] <mads-> thanks maihem
[23:42] <Intertricity> ahh k was about to say xD didn't see it there
[23:42] <maihem> I said /etc/interfaces before
[23:42] <mads-> that sounds incredible.
[23:42] <mads-> :>
[23:42] <Intertricity> nope, it's just auto lo
[23:42] <Intertricity> and
[23:42] <Intertricity> iface lo inet loopback
[23:42] <Intertricity> o.x
[23:42] <FloodBot1> Intertricity: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:42] <Intertricity> Oops :P sorreh
[23:43] <maihem> Okay, Intertricity, then I can't help, I don't know how the networkmanager vs /etc/network/interfaces conflict is solved in ubuntu and I hate the undocumentatediousness of it :)
[23:43] <Intertricity> lol, well I think I can move a bit forward from here now- thanks :)
[23:44] <mrmiggidude> maihen, i uninstalled gnash, now i'm looking for Adobe's flash plugin?
[23:44] <eduardo> mrmiggidude: look for it in synaptic
[23:44] <mrmiggidude> eduardo, flashplugin-nonfree?
[23:45] <maihem> mrmiggidude: go to software sources in system->administration and check the box in the third party repository tab, then check for updates and go to applications-add/remove
[23:45] <eduardo> mrmiggidude: no
[23:45] <maihem> or that one, yeah ! :)
[23:45] <maihem> or maybe not :)
[23:45] <mrmiggidude> yeah? or no?
[23:45] <eduardo> he should use adobe
[23:45] <eduardo> mrmiggidude: wait lemme check the name
[23:45] <mrmiggidude> k.
[23:46] <maihem> flashplugin-nonfree downloads and correctly configures adobe flash for you, i think
[23:46] <eduardo> mrmiggidude: yeah thats the one.
[23:46] <mrmiggidude> apparently i already have it, its asking for upgrade.
[23:46] <maihem> but applications->add/remove is the easiest interface and will just install that package for you so you can choose which way
[23:46] <mrmiggidude> upgrade yeah?
[23:46] <tharvey> greetings!  I'm new to ubuntu - I'm running 7.10 in a VM that did not have GUI so I installed xorg and gnome - now how do I change the runlevel? sudo runlevel --set=5 set it to 5 but did not start x?
[23:46] <maihem> yeah
[23:46] <mrmiggidude> applying..
[23:46] <Adpad> does anyone use GOOGLE DESKTOP on their Ubuntu Machine?  If so - How is it?  Does it index mounted drives??
[23:46] <hischild> tharvey, type startx
[23:47] <tharvey> hischild, how do I make it permanent on reboot?
[23:47] <eduardo> mrmiggidude: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:47] <maihem> tharvey, install gdm
[23:47] <hischild> tharvey, install ubuntu-desktop will do that all for you.
[23:47] <mrmiggidude> I installed it, no?
[23:47] <mrmiggidude> let me try that though
[23:47] <maihem> bye
[23:48] <tharvey> hischild, ok thx trying that now
[23:48] <mrmiggidude> Okay I have the newest version.
[23:48] <eduardo> mrmiggidude: try to see a video
[23:48] <sveakex> hey, what is the ubuntu system font?
[23:49] <Soleone> hi everyone
[23:49] <Soleone> what is a cool file browser for ubuntu?
[23:49] <mrmiggidude> Done!
[23:49] <eduardo> Soleone: firefox
[23:49] <sveakex> Soleone: nautilus
[23:49] <babo> I upload a zip file to my server, then i place the file in a dir owned by apache with permission 740. I then chmod the file to 777 and try to unzip it. What i get in the error log is checkdir error:  cannot create new_file
[23:49] <mrmiggidude> Thanks Eduardo.
[23:49] <mrmiggidude> and Maihem.
[23:49] <sveakex> eduardo: fx is not a file browser :s
[23:49] <Adpad> mrmiggidude: firefox isn't really a file browser ;)
[23:49] <Adpad> nautilus - the default - is great
[23:49] <babo> i've spent waaay too long looking at this problem
[23:49] <eduardo> Soleone: ohh FILE browser, nautilus.
[23:49] <babo> pls help
[23:50] <mrmiggidude> adpad: i didn't ask the question =]
[23:50] <D3RGPS31> Does anyone here have experiance with Wine (the people in channel Wine arn't able to help me >.>)
[23:50] <sveakex> babo: what's up?
[23:50] <eduardo> babo: state the problem
[23:50] <babo> sveakex, eduardo: I upload a zip file to my server, then i place the file in a dir owned by apache with permission 740. I then chmod the file to 777 and try to unzip it. What i get in the error log is checkdir error:  cannot create new_file
[23:50] <Adpad> mrmiggidude: sorry ;)
[23:50] <babo> thanks
[23:50] <mrmiggidude> Is there a way to not display people entering and leaving the room?
[23:50] <tommmied> Seveas, you there?
[23:50] <Starnestommy> mrmiggidude: which client do you use?
[23:50] <mrmiggidude> gaim
[23:50] <mrmiggidude> i mean
[23:50] <mrmiggidude> pidgin
[23:50] <Soleone> something else recommendable except nautilus?
[23:51] <Soleone> i come from windows commander
[23:51] <Soleone> it has two tabs and a lot of keyboard shortvuts
[23:51] <babo> sveakex, eduardo: sorry ... when i say 'i' in that sentence what i mean is apache ...
[23:51] <_Andrew> babo, The folder your in need permissions?
[23:51] <Adpad> Soleone: I've only used nautilis and the ones that are used in KDE - they will run in gnome..
[23:51] <Starnestommy> mrmiggidude: I don't know how to do it in pidgin, but I do in xchat and irssi
[23:51] <Adpad> Soleone: what's wrong with nautilus?
[23:51] <sveakex> babo: so you can't untar the file?
[23:51] <TheFearsomeFufu> How an I get java working in firefox on 64bit? I know the sun-java6 doesn't come with a 64bit firefox plugin...what other java can I use?
[23:52] <mrmiggidude> Stranestommy:its okay.
[23:52] <babo> _Andrew, the folder i move the file into is owned by apache and is set 740
[23:52] <sveakex> Soleone: midnightcommander, look it up :)
[23:52] <mrmiggidude> its not that important
[23:52] <Soleone> sveakex: thx!
[23:52] <babo> sveakex, i can't unzip the file
[23:52] <babo> unzip newfile.zip
[23:52] <Soleone> Adpad: hard to describe what's bothering me about nautilus
[23:52] <tommmied> Seveas, regarding my problem.  I found a solution, it was crashing due to system>preference >universal access > assistive tech.  I had it enabled
[23:52] <sveakex> babo: check the folder permissions
[23:52] <tommmied> not sure what that does but
[23:52] <Adpad> Soleone: are you prepared to try the KDE file browsers?
[23:52] <TheFearsomeFufu> babo: The user that you're running the unzip command as doesn't have the permission to write files to that dir
[23:52] <Adpad> might help you solve your problems ;)
[23:53] <pierrelux> is there any french macbook users with a qwerty keyboard out here ? I think there might be a wrong layout and I want to check it out here first before filling a bug report
[23:53] <sveakex> btw, what console font does ubuntu use by default?
[23:53] <deflated> I think "fixed".
[23:53] <deflated> no monospace
[23:53] <lynndylan>  does any one here have any experience with freebirth?
[23:54] <babo> TheFearsomeFufu, the folder is 777
[23:54] <charles|64> anyone know how to get the keyboard audio controls to work?
[23:54] <sveakex> deflated: was that to me?
[23:54] <Adpad> charles|64: depends, which keyboard?
[23:54] <vcbcvb> hi
[23:54] <deflated> sveakex, yes
[23:54] <Adpad> charles|64: and, which audio player are you using?
[23:54] <sveakex> deflated: in the gnome terminal
[23:55] <vcbcvb> xao
[23:55] <Soleone> Adpad: i am. i thought about  Dolphin. but i'll try  midnightcommander first
[23:55] <sveakex> Soleone: what wm are you using?
[23:55] <vcbcvb> ::EXIT
[23:55] <charles|64> Adpad: locittech s510 and amarok
[23:55] <deflated> deflated: you can look that up in the options but I think it's using monospace as default font
[23:55] <GIn> hey StPatrick, any luck with your wireless card?
[23:55] <vcbcvb> :EXIT
[23:55] <deflated> s/deflated/sveakex
[23:55] <Soleone> sveakex: hm i don't know. the default that comes with ubuntu 7.10. what is it?
[23:55] <Adpad> charles|64: if you're trying to say "logitech" i think i can help you
[23:55] <sveakex> Soleone: gnome
[23:56] <StPatrick> GIn,  Hey man!~ yea, Im on wifi right now. Turns out there's some complication between my access point and this laptop, not sure what it is...
[23:56] <charles|64> Adpad: yes logitech
[23:56] <StPatrick> GIn,  It happened to another friend who came over as well
[23:56] <sveakex> Soleone: since if you were using kubuntu it would be kde, or if you installed kde on ubuntu it would also be kde
[23:56] <babo> this is really,  really frustrating.
[23:56] <babo> is there anyway to run a shell command as apache ?
[23:56] <t1n0m3n> I just installed ubuntu...  I am trying to learn it after using kubuntu for quite a while..  My question:  Is there a run type dialog or is it even needed?
[23:56] <GIn> StPatrick: glad to hear that :-)
[23:56] <Soleone> sveakex: ah ok, i didnt know gnome was called the "window manager"
[23:56] <StPatrick> GIn, But Im at a different access point right now, and it's working fine
[23:56] <deflated> babo: look in /etc/init.d/
[23:56] <clarezoe> can anyone help me on my wireless conection? when I run wpa_supplicant it saied 'trying to associate with xx:xx:xx:xx' then ctrl-even-disconneted -disconnect event-remove keys, and then loop
[23:56] <Adpad> charles|64: go to system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[23:57] <sveakex> deflated: what font size is default?
[23:57] <babo> deflated, huh ?
[23:57] <deflated> babo: I think it's called apache but I'm not sure as I'm using lighttpd
[23:57] <sveakex> deflated: i am trying to make this terminal look like the one in ubuntu
[23:57] <GIn> StPatrick: be sure to check the access filter on your router.. ;)
[23:57] <deflated> babo: try this sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[23:57] <Adpad> charles|64:  disable all of the global shortcuts which are likely to be associtated with your keyboard directly
[23:57] <charles|64> global shortcuts?
[23:57] <Adpad> charles|64: you can leave the "MEDIA PLAYER" shortcut enabled if you have a key for that
[23:57] <StPatrick> GIn,  Trust me i have, lol  GOnna try a firmware update later.
[23:57] <StPatrick> GIn,  Now i have another issue, though.
[23:57] <GIn> ok, good luck
[23:57] <sveakex> Soleone: well i call it the window manager :P
[23:57] <Adpad> charles|64: disable the shortcuts which relate to playing audio in system -> pref -> keyboard shortcuts
[23:57] <GIn> StPatrick: what is it?
[23:58] <sveakex> StPatrick: or fönster hanterare in swedish
[23:58] <sveakex> Soleone: *
[23:58] <babo> deflated, hmm have you gotten my problem mixed up with someone elses ?
[23:58] <charles|64> Adpad: ok so next track pause stop and so on?
[23:58] <nhlinux> I'm having a problem with the sound in Gutsy. Sound only works for the root user.
[23:58] <sveakex> deflated: nevermind, thank you :)
[23:58] <Soleone> sveakex: Krusader looks interesting, but it will install a lot of kde libraries with it...
[23:58] <babo> how is restarting apache going to help me ?
[23:58] <deflated> babo: no why? you wanted to restart apache, right?
[23:59] <Adpad> charles|64: are they associated with the keys on your keyboard? if so, try disable them for now
[23:59] <sveakex> Soleone: i haven't seen krusader, you can also take a look at thunar, the default for xfce
[23:59] <Adpad> charles|64: then directly IN amarok, once the keyboard shortcuts are disabled in ubuntu config, go to -> settings -> configure global shortcuts, and set up each key there in amarok directly
[23:59] <babo> deflated, no. i wanted to get apache to unzip a folder
[23:59] <StPatrick> GIn,  My video card seems to have trouble.
[23:59] <fordprefect_> directions to help with freezing issues using Dapper? -behind the curve, I know ;)
[23:59] <Adpad> charles|64:  this is the fix that worked for me
[23:59] <deflated> babo: oh sorry
[23:59] <hischild> i'm searching for a program that can do mass renaming of files based on mp3 tags.
[23:59] <deflated> sveakex: np
[23:59] <TheFearsomeFufu> How an I get java working in firefox on 64bit? I know the sun-java6 doesn't come with a 64bit firefox plugin...what other java can I use?
[23:59] <CelticLord> nuit!!