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| apachelogger | stdin: I came to the decision that we should conflict/replace the kde4base* stuff in kdelibs5 instead of adding it to all kdebase packages | 13:59 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | also less work to maintain | 13:59 |
| stdin | probably easier | 13:59 |
| stdin | s/probably// | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | stdin: wanna prepare a debdiff? | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | I have a patch that should go into hardy as well | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | though, ExceptionRiddell is not here ;-) | 14:00 |
| stdin | kk | 14:01 |
| stdin | I may as well set it to conflict/replace all the old kde4* packages | 14:16 |
| stdin | apachelogger: should I just conflict with them, or conflicts + replaces? not sure | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | stdin: conflicts and replaces | 14:27 |
| mhb | the evil flamerino strikes again! | 14:29 |
| theunixgeek | any *curses programmers here? | 14:30 |
| stdin | apachelogger: http://stdin.me.uk/diffs/kde4libs.debdiff should do it | 14:31 |
| apachelogger | awesome | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | stdin: please attach it to the bug report | 14:33 |
| * stdin clicks send | 14:33 | |
| * apachelogger gives stdin a cookie | 14:33 | |
| mhb | hi folks | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | hoy mhb | 14:34 |
| mhb | apachelogger: how's your amarok adventures? | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | mhb: BAU, fixing ubuntu b0rkage | 14:39 |
| * apachelogger runs a stress test with an improved xine pulesaudio plugin | 14:39 | |
| stdin | and by "runs a stress test" you mead "plays his favourite music over and over"? :p | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | stdin: playing ska, with equalizer, while listening to muted moby in banshee, while watching a very silent queerduck in kaffeine while starting the gnome sound test randomly | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | that test sound is quite annoying though | 14:43 |
| stdin | I hope you don't turn it up too loud, your neighbours will think you're murdering small animals | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | <-- using a headphone :D | 14:45 |
| xRaich[o]2x | apachelogger: You must sound like my neighbour right now.... | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | looks lol | 14:46 |
| crimsun | that plugin was only fixed fairly recently | 14:46 |
| * apachelogger is wondering how something can look lol anyway | 14:46 | |
| apachelogger | http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot97.png | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | crimsun: but it's working apparently | 14:47 |
| crimsun | apachelogger: ping siretart if you want to get it in | 14:47 |
| crimsun | we're using esd instead of the broken pulse version currently in there | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | yeah, when I finished testing I'll create the debdiff | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | crimsun: the problem with esd is that it can't be supplied in the default plugins and therefore is unaccessible by default in amarok | 14:49 |
| * apachelogger also notes that last.fm skipping works for him | 14:50 | |
| apachelogger | I have really no idea why it fails for some people | 14:50 |
| crimsun | apachelogger: you'd ship xineplug_ao_out_pulse* in libxine1-bin, or...? | 14:53 |
| apachelogger | crimsun: -misc-plugins | 14:53 |
| crimsun | ugh | 14:53 |
| apachelogger | crashev: all default output plugins are in -misc-plugins apparently | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | besides, it was that way before pulse got kicked from the package | 14:54 |
| crimsun | yes | 14:54 |
| crimsun | it's just a shame we didn't kick esd into there, too. | 14:55 |
| apachelogger | crimsun: then KDE would by default depend on esd wouldn't it? | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | libesd at least | 14:59 |
| crimsun | yes | 15:04 |
| crimsun | libesd-alsa0, rather, but yes. | 15:04 |
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| yuriy | smarter: ping | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | pling | 18:30 |
| apachelogger | jpatrick: pling | 18:35 |
| * apachelogger really needs more sleep | 18:35 | |
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| snikker | i've got a problem with KsCd. it tell me thst i've no permission to read cd... (same thing with sudo) | 19:02 |
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| ryanakca | snikker: #kubuntu is your best bet | 20:17 |
| snikker | ryanakca: i've tryed also in #kubuntu, but with no answer... now i try again | 20:25 |
| eagles0513875 | i found two rather nasty bugs right now should i just file a bug reports on each | 21:04 |
| eagles0513875 | u guys have any fixes that need testing | 21:19 |
| yuriy | eagles0513875: yes file bugs. search if they're already filed first | 21:24 |
| yuriy | eagles0513875: as far as fixes to test. what locale are you using? | 21:25 |
| eagles0513875 | yuriy: ones seems to be fixed im using the 64bit version of hardy | 21:25 |
| eagles0513875 | beta | 21:25 |
| yuriy | locale as in, are you using english (en_US) or a translation? | 21:26 |
| eagles0513875 | en_us | 21:26 |
| yuriy | oh, nvm then | 21:26 |
| eagles0513875 | thing is im not very versed in programming except in java right now | 21:27 |
| eagles0513875 | yuriy: i have a question for ya before i file this bug for some reason i havent been on here in bout 2 days and this problem happened to me as well when i booted the live cd. i was unable to get an ip address even tonight. for me to be able to get an ip address i have to reset my modem and switch. on my windows based machine i dont have to do that once every few months | 21:28 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: u in here | 21:31 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: daily live? | 21:31 |
| eagles0513875 | ? | 21:32 |
| eagles0513875 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/216491 | 21:36 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216491 in ubuntu "problems getting an ip address" [Undecided,New] | 21:36 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: thats the link to my bug i just filed | 21:37 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: are you using the dailyl live cd? | 21:37 |
| eagles0513875 | no | 21:37 |
| eagles0513875 | i have installed the os on my hard drive and ive been downloading the updated pkgs | 21:37 |
| apachelogger | hm | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: honestly I think the issue is within the switch/modem rather than the network stack | 21:40 |
| eagles0513875 | thing is its only this computer that has the issue | 21:42 |
| eagles0513875 | wait i take that back im starting to think u might be right | 21:42 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: can u close the bug for me | 21:43 |
| yuriy | eagles0513875: you can close the bug yourself. click on the little arrow | 21:44 |
| eagles0513875 | gotcha thanks yuriy | 21:45 |
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| smarter | yuriy: pong | 22:05 |
| apachelogger | woah | 22:12 |
| * apachelogger is reinstalling his workstation | 22:12 | |
| apachelogger | that was some jumper fun here ... I really should leave the dvd drive in the machine | 22:12 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: u get shocked | 22:12 |
| * apachelogger is uber professional and never gets shocked | 22:13 | |
| apachelogger | anyway | 22:13 |
| apachelogger | does anyone know how to get a package in universe? | 22:13 |
| eagles0513875 | lol im the last person to get anything in universe lol | 22:14 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: i think u need to find someone whose an motu | 22:14 |
| * apachelogger is a uber unprofessional motu who doesn't know such stuff | 22:15 | |
| eagles0513875 | then if ur an motu u should be able to do it | 22:15 |
| eagles0513875 | should u not | 22:15 |
| apachelogger | maybe I am, I just don't know how | 22:15 |
| eagles0513875 | lol ahhh gotcha im not sure | 22:15 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: Riddell might know | 22:16 |
| apachelogger | yeah, but he is out for the weekend | 22:16 |
| apachelogger | oh | 22:16 |
| apachelogger | that bug seems fixed anyway | 22:16 |
| apachelogger | so it probably gets autodecided | 22:17 |
| yuriy | smarter: i'm working on bug 82723 | 22:17 |
| apachelogger | just like I assumed | 22:17 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 82723 in kde-guidance "wineconfig doesn't work" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82723 | 22:17 |
| yuriy | smarter: i was wondering if you could test a fix | 22:17 |
| eagles0513875 | ill test if u guys want | 22:18 |
| yuriy | eagles0513875: i think the bug is only on non-english setups | 22:19 |
| eagles0513875 | yuriy: gotcha | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | hm | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | smarter: wanna do some work? ;-) | 22:20 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: i would if i wasnt getting ready for exams as well as knew more programming | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | well, it's not exactly coding, but getting into ubuntu sponsoring stuff and feature freeze exception stuff | 22:21 |
| smarter | apachelogger: maybe, what sort of work? | 22:21 |
| apachelogger | bug #60898 needs a debdiff including the upstream fix, and a final freeze exception | 22:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 60898 in konversation "Konversation Crashes on DCC Chat" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60898 | 22:23 |
| smarter | yuriy: I've just tested .wine directory creation again and it still doesn't work but It gives me different error messages | 22:23 |
| yuriy | .wine directory creation? | 22:23 |
| * yuriy hasn't heard of this bug yet | 22:23 | |
| eagles0513875 | isnt that in reference to wine installation and the hidden directory it creates | 22:24 |
| smarter | http://pastebin.com/m3c21030e | 22:25 |
| yuriy | smarter: i'm talking about the KeyError: u'Bureau' error. i think i fixed it so if you still get that error i need you to test if the version in svn fixes it | 22:25 |
| smarter | yuriy: I don't get this error anymore | 22:25 |
| yuriy | smarter: i think that's basically the same thing though | 22:26 |
| yuriy | smarter: could you test the version in svn at svn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/extragear/kde3/utils/guidance/wineconfig | 22:26 |
| smarter | yuriy: Let's test your fix then ;) | 22:26 |
| smarter | yuriy: I don't get less or more errors, but this seems to be related to wine, when I just run wine I get: "preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range 00000000-60000000 | 22:29 |
| smarter | yuriy: I don't get less or more errors, but this seems to be related to wine, when I just run wine I get: "preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range 00000000-60000000" | 22:29 |
| yuriy | smarter: the preloader error is a wine bug 114025, i'm concerned about the python errors | 22:31 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 114025 in wine "Problem with wine preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range 00000000-60000000" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114025 | 22:31 |
| smarter | strange | 22:33 |
| yuriy | and that the fix doesn't break translations | 22:33 |
| smarter | If I run wineconfig from systemsettings, no problem | 22:33 |
| smarter | If I run it standalone, python error | 22:33 |
| smarter | I I run your version, no problem | 22:33 |
| smarter | and I still have the translations | 22:34 |
| yuriy | smarter: translations in the lower combo box on the appearance page? | 22:34 |
| smarter | yuriy: everything is translated | 22:36 |
| yuriy | smarter: great, thanks | 22:37 |
| smarter | apachelogger: I'll do it tomorrow | 22:40 |
| smarter | my first FF exception :p | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | nice :D | 22:41 |
| apachelogger | smarter: please assing yourself to the bug | 22:41 |
| smarter | ok | 22:41 |
| * apachelogger logs into his newly installed hardy | 22:41 | |
| apachelogger | I actually never saw a hardy KDE 3 :P | 22:42 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 22:42 |
| smarter | "You are not the bug assignee nor the maintainer of konversation (Ubuntu), and therefore cannot edit this bug's status." | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | hm, could be worse considering I didn't help polishing it ;-) | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | smarter: I'll assign you | 22:43 |
| smarter | thanks | 22:43 |
| eagles0513875 | ill help with bugs but i need a mentor | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | done | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: just use all in here as mentors | 22:44 |
| eagles0513875 | :) | 22:44 |
| eagles0513875 | need to find myself a simple bug | 22:44 |
| apachelogger | also the ubuntu wiki is a fairly good resource for information | 22:44 |
| eagles0513875 | thing is i know no c++ or python what so ever | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: you can do packaging | 22:46 |
| apachelogger | bug triaging | 22:46 |
| apachelogger | that sort of stuff | 22:46 |
| apachelogger | s/sort/kind | 22:46 |
| eagles0513875 | ok what to pkg now lol | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | currently nothing :P | 22:48 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: you could start by going through the kde related bugs on launchpad | 22:48 |
| eagles0513875 | ok and trying to fix a bug | 22:48 |
| smarter | apachelogger: I've the debdiff ready, I'll do the FFe thing tomorrow | 22:51 |
| apachelogger | smarter: cool | 22:52 |
| smarter | apachelogger: You can try it in my PPA when it will be compiled: http://ppa.launchpad.net/~smarter | 22:53 |
| smarter | * http://ppa.launchpad.net/smarter/ | 22:56 |
| eagles0513875 | bah | 22:56 |
| eagles0513875 | i cant find a bug to take a stab at | 22:56 |
| apachelogger | yuriy: can you drop eagles0513875 an easy bug when you stumble upon one please? | 22:58 |
| eagles0513875 | thanks guys | 22:59 |
| eagles0513875 | think i might have found something | 22:59 |
| eagles0513875 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/sed/+bug/10364 | 23:00 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 10364 in sed "sed: documentation is non-free" [High,Invalid] | 23:00 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: it's invalid for ubuntu | 23:00 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 23:01 |
| smarter | 'night everybody | 23:03 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: pling | 23:04 |
| eagles0513875 | smarter: night | 23:05 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: doesnt seem like my night tonight | 23:08 |
| * apachelogger doesn't like tonight because it is night | 23:08 | |
| apachelogger | oh | 23:08 |
| apachelogger | 12 hours up again | 23:09 |
| apachelogger | oh | 23:09 |
| apachelogger | uh | 23:09 |
| apachelogger | there is some issue | 23:09 |
| apachelogger | kde3 vs kde4 | 23:09 |
| eagles0513875 | ? | 23:10 |
| apachelogger | kdebase-bin-kde3 gets removed when installing kubuntu-kde4-desktop | 23:10 |
| apachelogger | oha | 23:11 |
| apachelogger | http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/kdebase-bin | 23:11 |
| apachelogger | that first dependency is soooo not correct | 23:11 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: there you have your bug | 23:12 |
| apachelogger | if you want it... | 23:12 |
| eagles0513875 | ok whats the launchpad bug link | 23:12 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: you will have to search for it | 23:12 |
| apachelogger | I just noticed this on my machine :P | 23:12 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 23:13 |
| eagles0513875 | O_o this should be fun considering im falling asleep infront of my comp | 23:13 |
| apachelogger | I managed to triage bugs for 12 hours without falling asleep :P | 23:13 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 23:14 |
| eagles0513875 | as soon as my mother gets up here im never goign to hear the end of it lol | 23:14 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: so inregards to what u just found i need to get a hold of the source and go through that | 23:14 |
| eagles0513875 | and also find ur bug report | 23:14 |
| apachelogger | yep | 23:14 |
| apachelogger | apt-get source kdebase | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | will fetch the source package | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | and unpack it | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | then you need to edit debian/control | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | add a new changelog entry | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | create a new source package | 23:15 |
| eagles0513875 | will u be on in the morning | 23:15 |
| apachelogger | create debdiff of the old package revision to the new package revision | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | attach the debdiff to the bug report | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: depends on the definition of in the mornging ;-) | 23:16 |
| eagles0513875 | im in europe lol 1215 sunday morning lol | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | oh | 23:16 |
| eagles0513875 | so when i wake up in bout 8 9 hrs time | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | haha, I might still be up then :P | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | anyway | 23:17 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | that really depends on when I get to bed today | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | but I am probably only in the evening | 23:17 |
| eagles0513875 | there is no bug in regards to what u just found | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | have to visit some relatives tomorrow afternoon | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: I'll report one ;-) | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | btw | 23:17 |
| apachelogger | all you need to know to fix this bug is somewhere on wiki.ubuntu.com | 23:18 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: i noticed u reported some stuff u want pkged ill help u out with pkging them | 23:18 |
| apachelogger | searching for packagingguide should explain how to add a new changelog entry, create a source package, what all the lines in debian/control mean | 23:18 |
| apachelogger | and searching for debdiff should explain how to create such a thingy | 23:18 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: yeah, but after hardy release ;-) | 23:18 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: ok ahhh gotcha lets say its somethign like this which is probably for ubuntu | 23:19 |
| eagles0513875 | would it matter if its pkged on kubuntu or it has to be on ubuntu only | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | haha, I think it's months ago that I last reported a bug :P | 23:19 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: kubuntu = ubuntu | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | it's the very same archive | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | the very same base | 23:20 |
| eagles0513875 | ok so if they r gnome pkgs or kde pkgs doesnt matter right | 23:20 |
| apachelogger | the only difference is that we pack different apps on our cd :P | 23:20 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: nope | 23:20 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 23:20 |
| eagles0513875 | if ur not up for filing a bug report ill see how much i remember about the bug when i wake up lol | 23:21 |
| eagles0513875 | u in the kubuntu channel by any chance | 23:21 |
| eagles0513875 | this is funny this noob is asking centos related questions in a no centos related channel lol | 23:22 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: let me see if i got this bug right there is an issue with a wrong dependency in kde4 using a kde3 dependency | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | other way round | 23:24 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: bug #216529 | 23:24 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216529 in kdebase "kdebase-bin depends kdebase-bin-kde3 OR kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216529 | 23:24 |
| apachelogger | I even gave you a generic example on how to fix it :P | 23:25 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 23:25 |
| eagles0513875 | i found this dependency issue | 23:25 |
| eagles0513875 | if u click on the kde3 bin that first dependency under it is a kde4 dependency | 23:25 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: it's not the order | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | it's the either X or Y dependency in general | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | it says | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | -bin either requires -bin-kde3 | 23:26 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | or -runtime-bin-kde4 | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | so when you have KDE 3 installed | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | then install kubuntu-kde4-desktop | 23:26 |
| apachelogger | it will install -runtime-bin-kde4 since it is a dependency of kde4 | 23:27 |
| apachelogger | therefore -bin-kde3 will be removed since -bin from kde 3 can live with -runtime-bin-kde4 as well according to the current packaging | 23:27 |
| apachelogger | which is wrong | 23:27 |
| apachelogger | -bin _needs_ -bin-kde3 | 23:27 |
| apachelogger | because -kde4 uses different paths | 23:27 |
| eagles0513875 | so basically the bin needs to get removed as well | 23:27 |
| eagles0513875 | hey dude im out for the night thanks for helping get into the world of debugging linux | 23:29 |
| eagles0513875 | and all the inner workings of kubuntu | 23:29 |
| apachelogger | yw | 23:29 |
| eagles0513875 | see u in the am dude | 23:30 |
| apachelogger | cya | 23:30 |
| eagles0513875 | lol going to end up multitasking debugging this bug and revising for my java exam now in may lol | 23:30 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: before i log can u take a look at this bug and maybe give me some possible causes as to what could be causing this hang when u get a chance plz and ty | 23:32 |
| eagles0513875 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/209805 | 23:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 209805 in ubuntu "kubuntu hardy x64 alternate hangs after install" [Undecided,New] | 23:32 |
| apachelogger | you probably need some noapic boot arguments | 23:34 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: tried still seems to hang i installed using the alt cd | 23:34 |
| eagles0513875 | on the normal cd it hangs when formatting partitions as | 23:34 |
| eagles0513875 | im wondering if there is an issue when dealing with sata devices | 23:35 |
| eagles0513875 | or my hardware is just way to new | 23:35 |
| apachelogger | probably latter | 23:35 |
| eagles0513875 | oh well one linux box is enough for now lol | 23:36 |
| eagles0513875 | come summer im going to be in heaven lol | 23:36 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/216534 | 23:42 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216534 in ubuntu "boinc doesnt display data sets in tasks tab" [Undecided,New] | 23:42 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: please report the bugs against the appropriate package | 23:43 |
| apachelogger | it only causes uncecessary triage work if you don't do that | 23:43 |
| eagles0513875 | ok was going to assign it to myself | 23:43 |
| apachelogger | then it's still not linked to a package | 23:44 |
| apachelogger | anyway | 23:44 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: I actually think you have to configure something | 23:44 |
| eagles0513875 | i have the client and manager im goign to check out what version they have and see if i compile from source it changes anything | 23:44 |
| eagles0513875 | anyway now im really off | 23:46 |
| eagles0513875 | night | 23:46 |
| apachelogger | nini | 23:46 |
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