=== uga|zzZZ is now known as uga === hunger_t is now known as hunger === firephoto_ is now known as firephoto === Lure_ is now known as Lure === hunger_t is now known as hunger === Lure is now known as Lure_ === Lure_ is now known as Lure [13:59] stdin: I came to the decision that we should conflict/replace the kde4base* stuff in kdelibs5 instead of adding it to all kdebase packages [13:59] also less work to maintain [13:59] probably easier [13:59] s/probably// [14:00] stdin: wanna prepare a debdiff? [14:00] I have a patch that should go into hardy as well [14:00] though, ExceptionRiddell is not here ;-) [14:01] kk [14:16] I may as well set it to conflict/replace all the old kde4* packages [14:26] apachelogger: should I just conflict with them, or conflicts + replaces? not sure [14:27] stdin: conflicts and replaces [14:29] the evil flamerino strikes again! [14:30] any *curses programmers here? [14:31] apachelogger: http://stdin.me.uk/diffs/kde4libs.debdiff should do it [14:33] awesome [14:33] stdin: please attach it to the bug report [14:33] * stdin clicks send [14:33] * apachelogger gives stdin a cookie [14:34] hi folks [14:34] hoy mhb [14:38] apachelogger: how's your amarok adventures? [14:39] mhb: BAU, fixing ubuntu b0rkage [14:39] * apachelogger runs a stress test with an improved xine pulesaudio plugin [14:42] and by "runs a stress test" you mead "plays his favourite music over and over"? :p [14:43] stdin: playing ska, with equalizer, while listening to muted moby in banshee, while watching a very silent queerduck in kaffeine while starting the gnome sound test randomly [14:43] that test sound is quite annoying though [14:44] I hope you don't turn it up too loud, your neighbours will think you're murdering small animals [14:45] <-- using a headphone :D [14:45] apachelogger: You must sound like my neighbour right now.... [14:46] looks lol [14:46] that plugin was only fixed fairly recently [14:46] * apachelogger is wondering how something can look lol anyway [14:47] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/snapshot97.png [14:47] crimsun: but it's working apparently [14:47] apachelogger: ping siretart if you want to get it in [14:47] we're using esd instead of the broken pulse version currently in there [14:48] yeah, when I finished testing I'll create the debdiff [14:49] crimsun: the problem with esd is that it can't be supplied in the default plugins and therefore is unaccessible by default in amarok [14:50] * apachelogger also notes that last.fm skipping works for him [14:50] I have really no idea why it fails for some people [14:53] apachelogger: you'd ship xineplug_ao_out_pulse* in libxine1-bin, or...? [14:53] crimsun: -misc-plugins [14:53] ugh [14:54] crashev: all default output plugins are in -misc-plugins apparently [14:54] besides, it was that way before pulse got kicked from the package [14:54] yes [14:55] it's just a shame we didn't kick esd into there, too. [14:59] crimsun: then KDE would by default depend on esd wouldn't it? [14:59] libesd at least [15:04] yes [15:04] libesd-alsa0, rather, but yes. === _Czessi is now known as Czessi [17:16] smarter: ping [18:30] pling [18:35] jpatrick: pling [18:35] * apachelogger really needs more sleep === evalles_ is now known as keffie_jayx [19:02] i've got a problem with KsCd. it tell me thst i've no permission to read cd... (same thing with sudo) === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed [20:17] snikker: #kubuntu is your best bet [20:25] ryanakca: i've tryed also in #kubuntu, but with no answer... now i try again [21:04] i found two rather nasty bugs right now should i just file a bug reports on each [21:19] u guys have any fixes that need testing [21:24] eagles0513875: yes file bugs. search if they're already filed first [21:25] eagles0513875: as far as fixes to test. what locale are you using? [21:25] yuriy: ones seems to be fixed im using the 64bit version of hardy [21:25] beta [21:26] locale as in, are you using english (en_US) or a translation? [21:26] en_us [21:26] oh, nvm then [21:27] thing is im not very versed in programming except in java right now [21:28] yuriy: i have a question for ya before i file this bug for some reason i havent been on here in bout 2 days and this problem happened to me as well when i booted the live cd. i was unable to get an ip address even tonight. for me to be able to get an ip address i have to reset my modem and switch. on my windows based machine i dont have to do that once every few months [21:31] apachelogger: u in here [21:31] eagles0513875: daily live? [21:32] ? [21:36] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/216491 [21:36] Launchpad bug 216491 in ubuntu "problems getting an ip address" [Undecided,New] [21:37] apachelogger: thats the link to my bug i just filed [21:37] eagles0513875: are you using the dailyl live cd? [21:37] no [21:37] i have installed the os on my hard drive and ive been downloading the updated pkgs [21:40] hm [21:40] eagles0513875: honestly I think the issue is within the switch/modem rather than the network stack [21:42] thing is its only this computer that has the issue [21:42] wait i take that back im starting to think u might be right [21:43] apachelogger: can u close the bug for me [21:44] eagles0513875: you can close the bug yourself. click on the little arrow [21:45] gotcha thanks yuriy === rdieter is now known as rdieter_afk [22:05] yuriy: pong [22:12] woah [22:12] * apachelogger is reinstalling his workstation [22:12] that was some jumper fun here ... I really should leave the dvd drive in the machine [22:12] apachelogger: u get shocked [22:13] * apachelogger is uber professional and never gets shocked [22:13] anyway [22:13] does anyone know how to get a package in universe? [22:14] lol im the last person to get anything in universe lol [22:14] apachelogger: i think u need to find someone whose an motu [22:15] * apachelogger is a uber unprofessional motu who doesn't know such stuff [22:15] then if ur an motu u should be able to do it [22:15] should u not [22:15] maybe I am, I just don't know how [22:15] lol ahhh gotcha im not sure [22:16] apachelogger: Riddell might know [22:16] yeah, but he is out for the weekend [22:16] oh [22:16] that bug seems fixed anyway [22:17] so it probably gets autodecided [22:17] smarter: i'm working on bug 82723 [22:17] just like I assumed [22:17] Launchpad bug 82723 in kde-guidance "wineconfig doesn't work" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82723 [22:17] smarter: i was wondering if you could test a fix [22:18] ill test if u guys want [22:19] eagles0513875: i think the bug is only on non-english setups [22:20] yuriy: gotcha [22:20] hm [22:20] smarter: wanna do some work? ;-) [22:20] apachelogger: i would if i wasnt getting ready for exams as well as knew more programming [22:21] well, it's not exactly coding, but getting into ubuntu sponsoring stuff and feature freeze exception stuff [22:21] apachelogger: maybe, what sort of work? [22:22] bug #60898 needs a debdiff including the upstream fix, and a final freeze exception [22:23] Launchpad bug 60898 in konversation "Konversation Crashes on DCC Chat" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60898 [22:23] yuriy: I've just tested .wine directory creation again and it still doesn't work but It gives me different error messages [22:23] .wine directory creation? [22:23] * yuriy hasn't heard of this bug yet [22:24] isnt that in reference to wine installation and the hidden directory it creates [22:25] http://pastebin.com/m3c21030e [22:25] smarter: i'm talking about the KeyError: u'Bureau' error. i think i fixed it so if you still get that error i need you to test if the version in svn fixes it [22:25] yuriy: I don't get this error anymore [22:26] smarter: i think that's basically the same thing though [22:26] smarter: could you test the version in svn at svn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/extragear/kde3/utils/guidance/wineconfig [22:26] yuriy: Let's test your fix then ;) [22:29] yuriy: I don't get less or more errors, but this seems to be related to wine, when I just run wine I get: "preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range 00000000-60000000 [22:29] yuriy: I don't get less or more errors, but this seems to be related to wine, when I just run wine I get: "preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range 00000000-60000000" [22:31] smarter: the preloader error is a wine bug 114025, i'm concerned about the python errors [22:31] Launchpad bug 114025 in wine "Problem with wine preloader: Warning: failed to reserve range 00000000-60000000" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114025 [22:33] strange [22:33] and that the fix doesn't break translations [22:33] If I run wineconfig from systemsettings, no problem [22:33] If I run it standalone, python error [22:33] I I run your version, no problem [22:34] and I still have the translations [22:34] smarter: translations in the lower combo box on the appearance page? [22:36] yuriy: everything is translated [22:37] smarter: great, thanks [22:40] apachelogger: I'll do it tomorrow [22:40] my first FF exception :p [22:41] nice :D [22:41] smarter: please assing yourself to the bug [22:41] ok [22:41] * apachelogger logs into his newly installed hardy [22:42] I actually never saw a hardy KDE 3 :P [22:42] lol [22:43] "You are not the bug assignee nor the maintainer of konversation (Ubuntu), and therefore cannot edit this bug's status." [22:43] hm, could be worse considering I didn't help polishing it ;-) [22:43] smarter: I'll assign you [22:43] thanks [22:43] ill help with bugs but i need a mentor [22:44] done [22:44] eagles0513875: just use all in here as mentors [22:44] :) [22:44] need to find myself a simple bug [22:44] also the ubuntu wiki is a fairly good resource for information [22:45] thing is i know no c++ or python what so ever [22:46] eagles0513875: you can do packaging [22:46] bug triaging [22:46] that sort of stuff [22:46] s/sort/kind [22:47] ok what to pkg now lol [22:48] currently nothing :P [22:48] eagles0513875: you could start by going through the kde related bugs on launchpad [22:48] ok and trying to fix a bug [22:51] apachelogger: I've the debdiff ready, I'll do the FFe thing tomorrow [22:52] smarter: cool [22:53] apachelogger: You can try it in my PPA when it will be compiled: http://ppa.launchpad.net/~smarter [22:56] * http://ppa.launchpad.net/smarter/ [22:56] bah [22:56] i cant find a bug to take a stab at [22:58] yuriy: can you drop eagles0513875 an easy bug when you stumble upon one please? [22:59] thanks guys [22:59] think i might have found something [23:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/sed/+bug/10364 [23:00] Launchpad bug 10364 in sed "sed: documentation is non-free" [High,Invalid] [23:00] eagles0513875: it's invalid for ubuntu [23:01] ok [23:03] 'night everybody [23:04] ScottK: pling [23:05] smarter: night [23:08] apachelogger: doesnt seem like my night tonight [23:08] * apachelogger doesn't like tonight because it is night [23:08] oh [23:09] 12 hours up again [23:09] oh [23:09] uh [23:09] there is some issue [23:09] kde3 vs kde4 [23:10] ? [23:10] kdebase-bin-kde3 gets removed when installing kubuntu-kde4-desktop [23:11] oha [23:11] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/kdebase-bin [23:11] that first dependency is soooo not correct [23:12] eagles0513875: there you have your bug [23:12] if you want it... [23:12] ok whats the launchpad bug link [23:12] eagles0513875: you will have to search for it [23:12] I just noticed this on my machine :P [23:13] lol [23:13] O_o this should be fun considering im falling asleep infront of my comp [23:13] I managed to triage bugs for 12 hours without falling asleep :P [23:14] lol [23:14] as soon as my mother gets up here im never goign to hear the end of it lol [23:14] apachelogger: so inregards to what u just found i need to get a hold of the source and go through that [23:14] and also find ur bug report [23:14] yep [23:15] apt-get source kdebase [23:15] will fetch the source package [23:15] and unpack it [23:15] then you need to edit debian/control [23:15] add a new changelog entry [23:15] create a new source package [23:15] will u be on in the morning [23:16] create debdiff of the old package revision to the new package revision [23:16] attach the debdiff to the bug report [23:16] eagles0513875: depends on the definition of in the mornging ;-) [23:16] im in europe lol 1215 sunday morning lol [23:16] oh [23:16] so when i wake up in bout 8 9 hrs time [23:16] haha, I might still be up then :P [23:17] anyway [23:17] lol [23:17] that really depends on when I get to bed today [23:17] but I am probably only in the evening [23:17] there is no bug in regards to what u just found [23:17] have to visit some relatives tomorrow afternoon [23:17] eagles0513875: I'll report one ;-) [23:17] btw [23:18] all you need to know to fix this bug is somewhere on wiki.ubuntu.com [23:18] apachelogger: i noticed u reported some stuff u want pkged ill help u out with pkging them [23:18] searching for packagingguide should explain how to add a new changelog entry, create a source package, what all the lines in debian/control mean [23:18] and searching for debdiff should explain how to create such a thingy [23:18] eagles0513875: yeah, but after hardy release ;-) [23:19] apachelogger: ok ahhh gotcha lets say its somethign like this which is probably for ubuntu [23:19] would it matter if its pkged on kubuntu or it has to be on ubuntu only [23:19] haha, I think it's months ago that I last reported a bug :P [23:19] lol [23:19] eagles0513875: kubuntu = ubuntu [23:19] it's the very same archive [23:20] the very same base [23:20] ok so if they r gnome pkgs or kde pkgs doesnt matter right [23:20] the only difference is that we pack different apps on our cd :P [23:20] eagles0513875: nope [23:20] ok [23:21] if ur not up for filing a bug report ill see how much i remember about the bug when i wake up lol [23:21] u in the kubuntu channel by any chance [23:22] this is funny this noob is asking centos related questions in a no centos related channel lol [23:23] apachelogger: let me see if i got this bug right there is an issue with a wrong dependency in kde4 using a kde3 dependency [23:24] other way round [23:24] eagles0513875: bug #216529 [23:24] Launchpad bug 216529 in kdebase "kdebase-bin depends kdebase-bin-kde3 OR kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216529 [23:25] I even gave you a generic example on how to fix it :P [23:25] ok [23:25] i found this dependency issue [23:25] if u click on the kde3 bin that first dependency under it is a kde4 dependency [23:26] eagles0513875: it's not the order [23:26] it's the either X or Y dependency in general [23:26] it says [23:26] -bin either requires -bin-kde3 [23:26] ok [23:26] or -runtime-bin-kde4 [23:26] so when you have KDE 3 installed [23:26] then install kubuntu-kde4-desktop [23:27] it will install -runtime-bin-kde4 since it is a dependency of kde4 [23:27] therefore -bin-kde3 will be removed since -bin from kde 3 can live with -runtime-bin-kde4 as well according to the current packaging [23:27] which is wrong [23:27] -bin _needs_ -bin-kde3 [23:27] because -kde4 uses different paths [23:27] so basically the bin needs to get removed as well [23:29] hey dude im out for the night thanks for helping get into the world of debugging linux [23:29] and all the inner workings of kubuntu [23:29] yw [23:30] see u in the am dude [23:30] cya [23:30] lol going to end up multitasking debugging this bug and revising for my java exam now in may lol [23:32] apachelogger: before i log can u take a look at this bug and maybe give me some possible causes as to what could be causing this hang when u get a chance plz and ty [23:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/209805 [23:32] Launchpad bug 209805 in ubuntu "kubuntu hardy x64 alternate hangs after install" [Undecided,New] [23:34] you probably need some noapic boot arguments [23:34] apachelogger: tried still seems to hang i installed using the alt cd [23:34] on the normal cd it hangs when formatting partitions as [23:35] im wondering if there is an issue when dealing with sata devices [23:35] or my hardware is just way to new [23:35] probably latter [23:36] oh well one linux box is enough for now lol [23:36] come summer im going to be in heaven lol [23:42] apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/216534 [23:42] Launchpad bug 216534 in ubuntu "boinc doesnt display data sets in tasks tab" [Undecided,New] [23:43] eagles0513875: please report the bugs against the appropriate package [23:43] it only causes uncecessary triage work if you don't do that [23:43] ok was going to assign it to myself [23:44] then it's still not linked to a package [23:44] anyway [23:44] eagles0513875: I actually think you have to configure something [23:44] i have the client and manager im goign to check out what version they have and see if i compile from source it changes anything [23:46] anyway now im really off [23:46] night [23:46] nini