[04:00] <greg-g>  :( my bugs aren't showing up in the "today" column. just week and onward
[04:00] <greg-g> of the stats page
[10:35] <qense> hello
[10:38] <secretlondon> hi
[10:39] <Arby> is anybody aware of any bugs regarding sound failure on a thinkpad R61i with kubuntu hardy?
[10:39] <Arby> can't get mine working and I'm totally stumped
[11:47] <mo> i have encoutered problems with the kernel of the new 8.04 beta version, but i don't know where an how to report that problem, i.e. what information to include in an bugticket
[12:15] <thekorn> hmm, when someone subscribes me to a bugreport, should I recieve a notification email?
[12:16] <thekorn> or is there a hidden launchpad-setting somewhere
[12:48] <james_w> thekorn: I thought when someone subscribed you it sent you the summary
[12:48] <james_w> perhaps it doesn't if you are already subscribed somehow.
[12:56] <thekorn> james_w, that's what I thought, dholbach subscribed me to some five-a-day applet bugs and I did not get any notification
[12:57] <james_w> and you're not subscribed to all five-a-day bug mail?
[12:57] <thekorn> no
[12:58] <james_w> sounds wrong to me
[12:58] <james_w> thanks for adding the libnotify support though
[12:59] <thekorn> james_w, I hope this works,
[12:59] <thekorn> will add some notifications for other errors aswell soon
[13:27] <rpedro_> someone that is runnig compiz, has Transmission installed, that is willing to help me confirm a 'session crasher' bug?
[14:05] <afflux> morning
[14:05] <Iulian> Hey afflux
[14:05] <afflux> hi Iulian :)
[15:35] <Arby> afternoon all
[15:35] <Arby> how would a user retrieve log files when an upgrade has broken X
[15:35] <Arby> ?
[15:36] <Arby> (bug 215446)
[15:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 215446 in update-manager "dependency problems - leaving unconfigured" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215446
[15:36] <crimsun> log in to a tty
[15:36] <pochu> Arby!
[15:36] <Arby> hi pochu
[15:36] <crimsun> e.g., ctrl+alt+F2
[15:36] <pochu> :)
[15:37] <Arby> crimsun: what I was wondering is would usb sticks still automount?
[15:37] <Arby> or would manual mounting be needed
[15:37] <Arby> so they could copy to stick then post to lp from another machine
[15:37] <crimsun> Arby: they will not automount on Ubuntu.
[15:38] <Arby> ok, so any suggestions for how to get the files onto another machine
[15:38] <Arby> user claims to be pretty new
[15:39] <Arby> so command line mail clients etc probably not an option
[15:39] <Arby> I've never needed to manually mount stuff
[15:39] <Arby> (lucky me :))
[15:39] <afflux> Arby: sudo aptitude install pastebinit && pastebinit -i filename
[15:40] <afflux> Arby: pastebinit prints a URL, the user should write it down and pass it to you.
[15:40] <Arby> ok
[15:40] <afflux> note that the url is likely to be case-sensitive
[15:40] <Arby> and filename should be the name of the log file
[15:40] <Arby> ?
[15:40] <afflux> right
[15:41] <afflux> oh, and also note that pastebinit is only available since gutsy IIRC.
[15:41] <Arby> that's not a problem in this case
[15:41] <afflux> okay
[15:41] <Arby> thanks a lot
[15:41] <afflux> np
[15:41] <afflux> <- off for a coffee
[15:52] <crimsun> debian 462651
[15:52] <ubotu> Debian bug 462651 in gidentd "gidentd: does not rotate logfiles and therefore fills /var/log" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/462651
[15:52] <crimsun> hmph.
[16:22] <afflux> huh
[16:23] <afflux> the german keyboards have an "altgr" key, which produces for example the @ sign (altgr+q), as we don't have shift+2 for it. Is there something similar on american keyboards?
[16:23] <afflux> so that, if I have an american keyboard and want to use the german layout, how do I get the @?
[16:30] <greg-g> afflux: I imagine you can map the altgr key to the right alt key or something
[16:30] <afflux> hm
[16:30] <afflux> but there is no default key that acts similar?
[16:33] <afflux> the reason I'm asking is comment #3 on bug 216338
[16:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 216338 in ubuntu "missing key on german keyboard layout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216338
[16:35]  * greg-g looks
[16:39] <greg-g> for me, I just changed to the german keyboard layout in 7.10.  Got the "@" from using right alt and q
[16:39] <greg-g> german default layout
[16:40] <afflux> greg-g: but you have an US keyboard?
[16:40] <afflux> (US or US-International? see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#US)
[16:40] <greg-g> afflux: yes, US
[16:40] <greg-g> plain old US
[16:41] <afflux> okay
[16:42] <afflux> thank you
[16:43] <greg-g> does that help at all?
[16:45] <afflux> greg-g: I'll ask svaens what keyboad he has and what german layout he selected, as he's reporting really weird stuff (the left alt key on his german keyboard would produce altgr events, what the...?). When he provided the information, I'll ask here for reproducing again ;)
[16:45] <greg-g> afflux: sounds good
[17:02] <greg-g> afflux: per the reporter's last reply: that list of his bottom row doesn't make sense to me
[17:03] <afflux> uh, didn't get the notifications yet
[17:03] <afflux> reading
[17:04] <afflux> greg-g: sounds like one of those insane approaches to save space on a notebook.
[17:05] <greg-g> afflux: oh yeah, just realized it is a laptop
[17:08] <afflux> greg-g: he's having some very weird settings: 1.) pressing alt+q results in a lower q, while it doesn't print any character for me. 2.) ctrl+alt+q quits his apps?! I think this very much depends on the app he's using but the apps I use usually quit via alt+q or ctrl+q, not both together
[17:09] <afflux> also, the line from /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols he's quiting says: "udiaresis, Udiaresis, at". However, [uU]diaresis is ü and Ü, not q and Q.
[17:09] <afflux> ah, that's the dvorak layout, which is something completly different.
[17:11] <greg-g> so he is using german dvorak?
[17:12] <afflux> I'm not sure
[17:12] <afflux> he forgot to provide his layout :(
[17:12] <greg-g> reply with a specific list of config files he should attach
[17:13] <greg-g> not just parts of the files
[17:13] <afflux> okay
[17:15] <greg-g> afflux: just a suggestion of course :)  It just seems like this reporter is in need of specific tasks to complete with specific goals :)
[17:16] <afflux> hehe
[17:17] <afflux> yes, I'll ask for xmodmap -pke, I suspect he's having some weird Xmodmap settings. Is there an easy way to get the keycode one single key sends? like xev but without all the noise?
[17:18] <afflux> greg-g: btw. searching for "sattelite 2410" keyboard (which is the name of the laptop mentioned in the specs pdf) I found this picture: http://www.laptopsolutions.net/images/p000367420top.jpg
[17:20] <greg-g> afflux: yuck.  I don't like that.  the super and menu key up at the top with insert and delete down at the bottom?
[17:20] <afflux> right
[17:20] <afflux> I know why I don't like laptops at all :)
[17:21] <afflux> But especially note that the key at the right hand corner is labeled with "alt gr"
[17:21] <afflux> err, not exactly the corner
[17:22] <greg-g> afflux: oh, weird
[17:56] <hyperair> i'd like to raise the issue: bug #185854
[17:57] <hyperair> as of now gnome-system-tools forgets to add "auto <ifacename>" when configuring a device
[17:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 185854 in gnome-system-tools "Setting static IP in Network Settings doesn't produce correct data" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/185854
[18:23] <syke> hi
[18:24] <syke> last night, I did a hardy dist-upgrade that has horked my kubuntu system a bit
[18:24] <syke> X sort-of starts now, but I get a gtk dialog with this message:
[18:24] <syke> "cannot launch graphical configuration tool because displayconfig-gtk is not installed. Sorry, without this tool installed you must manually configure Xorg."
[18:25] <syke> I know I could install the package its requesting, but why would I need that package on a kubuntu hardy system that was working fine before the update?
[18:25] <pochu> It shouldn't have been removed AFAIK
[18:25] <pochu> syke: could you file a bug report against update-manager in Launchpad, if there's none yet for that issue?
[18:25] <syke> sure
[18:26] <pochu> mention that it is kubuntu... that may be related
[18:26] <syke> pochu: I dont' think the package was ever installed in the first place
[18:26] <syke> I don't know why it would be on a kubuntu system, that is
[18:26] <pochu> do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[18:27] <pochu> or any *buntu-desktop other than kubuntu-desktop?
[18:28] <syke> let me reboot and check. a side effect of this breakage is that the vesafb is totally broken, so I can't see anything so switch ttys
[18:28] <hyperair> syke: edit your kernel command line and remove "vga=xxx" from it
[18:29] <syke> btw, booting back into the -15 kernel fixes the issue
[18:30] <syke> pochu: only kubuntu-desktop is installed
[18:36] <pochu> syke: I have no idea then... although if it works now... :)
[18:36] <syke> it works if i boot bakc into the -15 kernel
[18:36] <hyperair> syke: you're an nvidia user aren't you
[18:37] <syke> I suspect this will be an issue for others, so figuring it out will be a good thing
[18:37] <hyperair> -16 has a bad nvidia kernel module i think
[18:37] <syke> hyperair: correct, my laptop with the problem has an nvidia chipset
[18:37] <hyperair> so you failsafe X will launch
[18:37] <hyperair> because X won't launch
[18:38] <hyperair> and because displayconfig-gtk isn't installed, there isn't any way to configure your display graphically
[18:40] <syke> ok
[18:40] <syke> is tehre a launchpad bug # that mentions the nvidia -16 kernel issue?
[18:41] <hyperair> you could run a search
[18:41] <hyperair> i'm not sure
[18:41] <syke> why do you think -16 has a bad kernel module?
[18:41] <hyperair> and i haven't tested the -16 kernel module yet
[18:41] <hyperair> well
[18:41] <hyperair> someone mentioned it earlier in some other irc channle
[18:41] <hyperair> i think you were there
[18:41] <hyperair> =\
[18:42] <syke> ahh ok
[19:20] <greg-g> that was fun, triaging the bugs from one user as they were coming in :)
[19:20] <greg-g> (all about one package, gcalctool, and mostly feature requests which I forwarded upstream)
[22:11] <greg-g> the number of people automatically subscribed to bugs is incresing
[22:11] <greg-g> why do people want to be emailed every new bug?
[22:12] <Nafallo> greg-g: because we have filters :-)
[22:24] <greg-g> Nafallo: what do you mean?
[22:24] <Nafallo> greg-g: mailfilters.
[22:25] <greg-g> they wouldn't get all of the same bugs by subscribing to the bug announce mailing list?
[22:25] <greg-g> well, I guess they wouldn't get any of the follow up mail
[22:25] <Nafallo> dunno.
[22:26] <greg-g> there is a bug announce mailiing list, but it is basically just #ubuntu-bugs-announce in email form.  So, they wouldn't get any of the replies/updates to that bug
[22:26] <greg-g> Seems like a way to make a third party archive of all the mail associated with LP, at least for Ubuntu
[22:27] <Nafallo> oki. I'm subscribed via some teams, some personal interest packages and my case by case subscriptions :-)
[22:27] <greg-g> yeah, same here
[23:06] <macogw> hey i reported a bug the other day and just figured out how to fix it and uploaded a diff to launchpad.  what else do i need to do?
[23:07] <greg-g> macogw: which bug?
[23:07] <macogw> bug #215729
[23:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 215729 in seahorse "Seahorse fails to import keys" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215729
[23:10] <greg-g> macogw: I really don't know why I asked which bug, because, I don't know the exact right answer, but I'm sure someone in #ubuntu-motu does
[23:10] <macogw> greg-g: its in main, though
[23:10] <greg-g> there is a process of subscribing a team
[23:10] <greg-g> #ubuntu-devel ?
[23:10] <macogw> ok
[23:11] <greg-g> macogw: good luck, and thanks