| TelnetManta | anyone know what would cause this to happen in be log when trying to watch tv? | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| TelnetManta | Preview Error: Previewer file | 00:02 |
| TelnetManta | Preview Error: Run() file not local: | 00:02 |
| TelnetManta | Preview Error: Preview process not ok. | 00:02 |
| TelnetManta | guess I'll try a reinstall..... | 00:04 |
| famicom_ | family friendly? | 00:07 |
| famicom_ | what, it should be fine as long as there are no gays right | 00:07 |
| === mindframe_ is now known as mindframe | ||
| ushimitsudoki | I have a 1.7GHz P4 w/Radeon 9600 (TV out). Is this sufficient HW for mythbuntu? Just started researching this! | 05:06 |
| ushimitsudoki | I know i will need a tv card as well | 05:06 |
| CyberCod | anyone available to help with remote control config on a fresh install? | 08:43 |
| EvilGuru | mythbackend does not seem to start up when I boot-up my system (which is set to automatically log in and start the frontend) | 12:29 |
| davey_ | Anyone around? | 14:20 |
| davey_ | I've got a hauppauge pvr150 in my box and the remote has broken for no reason twice now, the first time I had to reinstall completely, which I dont really want to do again. Is there another reliable perhaps usb remote that works well with mythbuntu? | 14:21 |
| jduggan | davey_: i use mce remote | 14:53 |
| jduggan | works flawlessly | 14:53 |
| jduggan | its actually a decent remote | 14:53 |
| davey_ | do you have the newer one or older one? | 14:53 |
| jduggan | http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote its one not shown on this, its a cross between the 2nd and 3rd | 14:54 |
| davey_ | they all use the same driver module i assume? | 14:55 |
| jduggan | looks like the third with the red/green/yellow/blue buttons | 14:55 |
| davey_ | did it come with a tuner or did you get it seperately? | 14:55 |
| jduggan | its version 2, though | 14:55 |
| jduggan | i bought it for a 5quid or so, coz my hauppauge broke | 14:55 |
| jduggan | no tuner | 14:56 |
| davey_ | yeah thats the boat im in i think | 14:56 |
| davey_ | my hauppauge broke once before, and i fixed it by reinstalling, but this time i think its really broke | 14:56 |
| jduggan | my ir sensor got damaged when moving | 14:56 |
| jduggan | i was going to try fixing it but a colleague offered me this for next to nothing | 14:56 |
| davey_ | i think someone spilled beer on my remote lol | 14:56 |
| jduggan | tbh id probably have never bought the mce remote... but id recommend it to anyone | 14:57 |
| jduggan | ive never had an issue with it | 14:57 |
| davey_ | cool, I am looking for one now, i see a lot of no-name ones though | 14:57 |
| davey_ | anyware rohs is one brand i see a lot on newegg | 14:58 |
| jduggan | the only thing i dont like is the ir receiver is pretty big.. its fine for my living room, because it sits nicely on my kit and doesnt look out of place, but it wouldnt be right in my bedroom :) | 14:58 |
| davey_ | yeah, I currently have my hauppauge receiver duct taped to my tv, so i dont really care how it looks :P | 14:59 |
| jduggan | but what it does have is two ir blaster sensors | 14:59 |
| jduggan | so you can connect it to a tv and cable box, or tv and amp etc | 15:00 |
| davey_ | nice | 15:00 |
| davey_ | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16880121001 | 15:00 |
| davey_ | that one look decent to you? | 15:00 |
| jduggan | tbh i've no idea about those aftermarket ones, im not sure they use the same drivers etc? | 15:01 |
| jduggan | id guess they do | 15:02 |
| davey_ | that was kinda my worry | 15:02 |
| davey_ | i can't find anywhere that sells microsoft ones | 15:02 |
| jduggan | are the official M$ ones more expensive? | 15:02 |
| jduggan | ah | 15:02 |
| davey_ | probably | 15:02 |
| jduggan | google for mce remote | 15:03 |
| jduggan | there's a ton of them on UK ebay | 15:03 |
| jduggan | for pretty cheap | 15:03 |
| davey_ | k i'll check ebay | 15:03 |
| davey_ | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16880125001 comments say this one works well with lirc | 15:05 |
| jduggan | i cant comment since i have no experience with it :) | 15:07 |
| jduggan | you can always return to newegg though, right? | 15:07 |
| davey_ | yeah | 15:08 |
| laga | hey guys. | 15:53 |
| laga | can someone test something for me? you need a mythbuntu box (7.10 or 8.04) and approximately three minutes :) | 15:53 |
| jduggan | can i do it via ssh | 15:56 |
| laga | sure. but it'll reboot your computer. (or if you want, shut it down) | 15:57 |
| laga | i'm working on something that'll let people shut down their mythtv computers without having to edit /etc/sudoers first :) | 15:57 |
| Kargarian | Hello. I have a question. I cannot seem to get mythdora to boot from the dvd, is there anyway to do it using the grub loader? | 16:10 |
| laga | Kargarian: this is #ubuntu-mythtv | 16:11 |
| Kargarian | o | 16:11 |
| Kargarian | well i have mythubuntu that is doing the same thing and won't boot from the cdrom drive, anyway to get that to work using grub | 16:12 |
| OolonColluphid | Kargarian: do you have your BIOS set to boot first from CD/DVD? | 16:14 |
| Kargarian | yeah | 16:14 |
| Kargarian | i do a selective boot and seletc the dvd/cdrom drive | 16:14 |
| Kargarian | it waits for a bit and then just boots from hd | 16:14 |
| OolonColluphid | can you boot other live CD disks? | 16:15 |
| Kargarian | which sucks when i am trying to remove windows :) | 16:15 |
| Kargarian | none linux, windows does though | 16:15 |
| OolonColluphid | windoze from a live cd? | 16:16 |
| Kargarian | so from a previous install i can atleast get to the grub prompt | 16:16 |
| Kargarian | so i was wondering, is there a way from grub i could go into the cdrom and launch the install? | 16:16 |
| OolonColluphid | probably but I've never tried that | 16:17 |
| Kargarian | humm. i wonder if there is a wayto atleast make a floppy boot disk, but then another issue is I don't think i have a floppy lol. I do have a usb thumb drive | 16:18 |
| OolonColluphid | you might want to try a knoppix or other live cd channel this is for ubuntu/mythtv specific issues | 16:20 |
| laga | you can put the live disk onto a thumb drive... i think it's in the ubuntu wiki somewhere | 16:21 |
| Kargarian | ok thanks | 16:23 |
| MythbuntuGuest99 | laga, you around? | 16:29 |
| === MythbuntuGuest99 is now known as aspastic | ||
| jduggan | laga, could just have /sbin/shutdown chmod +s | 16:30 |
| jduggan | ? | 16:30 |
| jduggan | no big deal on a mythbox imo | 16:30 |
| aspastic | does MCC build a good diskless image now? i built from the command line...but cant install nvidia driver | 16:31 |
| laga | jduggan: na, SUID is bad :) especially because many computers are not "just" mythtv boxes :) | 16:31 |
| laga | jduggan: i already got a solution, i use HAL. i just need to know if it's working on "normal" mythbuntu computers | 16:31 |
| jduggan | ah | 16:32 |
| laga | aspastic: no, not yet. there was a hug in the last upload. i'll post an updated version in the forums in a few minutes | 16:32 |
| aspastic | kk...so if i built on from the command line, why would i not be able to install nvidia drivers? | 16:33 |
| laga | i dont know. do you get an error message? | 16:34 |
| laga | just saying "it doesn't work" is probably to worst way of trying to get help :) | 16:34 |
| aspastic | lol | 16:35 |
| aspastic | well, usually i come up top right..beside the clock | 16:35 |
| aspastic | it didnt this time | 16:35 |
| aspastic | so i download the sh*.run from nvidia.com | 16:35 |
| laga | well | 16:35 |
| laga | don't do that | 16:35 |
| aspastic | and use my tested and working xorg...but it doesnt work | 16:36 |
| aspastic | oh...why?? | 16:36 |
| laga | because the ubuntu packages for nvidia packages do special magic which is lacking in the .sh | 16:36 |
| laga | lack of magic breaks stuff | 16:36 |
| laga | ;) | 16:36 |
| aspastic | lol | 16:37 |
| aspastic | how to make magic then? | 16:37 |
| laga | aspastic: i'd suggest you remove the overlay directory in /var/cache/mythbuntu-diskless/overlay/* - this will remove the nvidia driver and also remove all your customizations (!). then start your client and run jockey-gtk | 16:38 |
| laga | that'll let you choose the nvidia driver i hope | 16:38 |
| laga | btw: if you can boot the client, then the chroot should be good. just sayin' | 16:39 |
| MythbuntuGuest88 | Hi this is my first visit here. I'm hoping to set it up this evening. One question: can I use the Hauppauge PVR150 blaster, to change channels on my sat receiver | 16:39 |
| laga | eg creating it in mcc was OK | 16:39 |
| aspastic | give me 2 mins laga | 16:40 |
| aspastic | didn't work laga 'tuple' object has no attribute | 16:43 |
| laga | ah | 16:43 |
| laga | known problem, wait a sec | 16:43 |
| aspastic | kk | 16:43 |
| laga | https://launchpad.net/bugs/214914 | 16:44 |
| laga | maybe that's the correct bug for you | 16:44 |
| aspastic | ill give it a go | 16:45 |
| aspastic | laga = LEGEND! | 16:50 |
| laga | i just overheard the conversation about that bug in another channel :) | 16:51 |
| laga | i've just seen the new desktop theme in action | 16:53 |
| laga | <3 | 16:53 |
| aspastic | ubuntu theme? | 16:54 |
| aspastic | nice? | 16:55 |
| laga | no, the mythbuntu theme | 16:56 |
| laga | black & chrome | 16:56 |
| aspastic | yea, i like it using it now | 17:02 |
| aspastic | any idea's why live tv wont work? just returns to the menu? | 17:03 |
| slestak | question guys. i have xv working finally, so i have low cpu usage for mplayer. | 17:10 |
| slestak | i just need to get the quality up now. i have avi's that when displayed on 32" LCD TV VIA RGB, IT GETS CHOPPY | 17:11 |
| slestak | im copying content from nas to local disk to see if its a throughput issue, but i dont think it is | 17:12 |
| slestak | for mplayer opts im using zoom, quiet, fs. is that consistent with your settings? | 17:13 |
| Kargarian | With a default install of mythth should i be able to watch dvd's. I stick a dvd in but it won't play | 17:50 |
| Kargarian | any ideas? | 17:50 |
| darthanubis | ;) | 17:56 |
| jduggan | Kargarian: gotta install the restricted drivers from the mcc | 17:56 |
| Raspberry | i've been running MythTV for a year now :) But since the upgrade to 8.04 -- the screensaver comes on (mouse appears and fades to black) and the lirc / remote has quit working... yes, I recompiled the lirc modules for the new -16 kerenl | 17:57 |
| laga | Raspberry: file a bug report | 17:57 |
| Raspberry | I will | 17:57 |
| Raspberry | there are currently ZERO bugs open in regards to MythTV on Hardy | 17:57 |
| superm1 | there are? | 18:05 |
| superm1 | ther's like 50 bugs open :) | 18:05 |
| darthanubis | I knew better than to even look | 18:06 |
| superm1 | as i just raised in -dev. ETOOMANYBUGS | 18:07 |
| superm1 | :) | 18:07 |
| Raspberry | I was looking here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/mythtv | 18:08 |
| Raspberry | is there somewhere else I should be looking? | 18:08 |
| superm1 | yeah same thing w/o the hardy in it | 18:08 |
| superm1 | those are "release" blocker bugs | 18:08 |
| Raspberry | ah | 18:09 |
| Raspberry | well I upgraded to hardy because since 0.21 it's been restarting X on Gutsy | 18:10 |
| Raspberry | so I figured it can't be much worse | 18:10 |
| Raspberry | only when I'm playing HD content for the most part | 18:10 |
| superm1 | sounds like you need a more tuned playback profile | 18:11 |
| Raspberry | I've been playing around with that | 18:12 |
| Raspberry | I've reduced it to normal now | 18:12 |
| Raspberry | would reducing it to slim be better yet? | 18:12 |
| Raspberry | or is that the wrong thing to be looking at? | 18:12 |
| Raspberry | I can create a custom profile, I know -- but I thought I'd try the defaults first and go from there | 18:13 |
| superm1 | slim helps a lot of folks | 18:13 |
| superm1 | it never hurts to ry | 18:13 |
| superm1 | try | 18:13 |
| Raspberry | I've had the same install for a year and I didn't have to look at the playback profiles until 0.21 | 18:14 |
| superm1 | yeah same for a lot of folks | 18:14 |
| superm1 | i ended up buying some new hardware | 18:15 |
| Raspberry | 0.21 is a lot more resource intensive | 18:15 |
| superm1 | and fixed it the brute force way | 18:15 |
| Raspberry | I've also noticed that it's max'd out my gb of memory too | 18:15 |
| superm1 | well that's actually surprising | 18:15 |
| Raspberry | I've been thinking about a new processor | 18:15 |
| superm1 | you sure its all "in use" | 18:15 |
| superm1 | a lot of it is usually cached | 18:15 |
| Raspberry | available is typically 50mb | 18:15 |
| superm1 | according to what though? | 18:15 |
| superm1 | free -m? | 18:16 |
| superm1 | example: my laptop has a gig | 18:16 |
| superm1 | and right now "used" is 943 | 18:16 |
| superm1 | but the next line is -/+ buffers/cache | 18:16 |
| superm1 | used is only 393 | 18:16 |
| Raspberry | used is 867mb and I don't even have the front-end running | 18:16 |
| Raspberry | buffers is 18mb cached is 400mb | 18:17 |
| superm1 | well you may have something else funky going on | 18:17 |
| superm1 | take a look what is using up all that ram right now | 18:17 |
| Raspberry | i'll check it again w/the front-end running in a bit .. .Xorg is 5% of the mem... python is almost 5... deskbar-applet is 5 ... but that's because I'm in a regular profile on the machine right now -- trying to use the control center | 18:18 |
| superm1 | but still 440 megs w/o myth running is a bit high i think | 18:18 |
| Raspberry | gknome panel is 3 nautilus is 3 mysql is 3% backend is 2.2 minxer is 2 update notifier is 2... and so on | 18:18 |
| superm1 | nautilus? | 18:19 |
| superm1 | oh you've got gnome running right now | 18:19 |
| Raspberry | I'm in a regular user term | 18:19 |
| Raspberry | yeah | 18:19 |
| superm1 | okay that explains things | 18:19 |
| superm1 | carry onward | 18:19 |
| Raspberry | but I'm checking through top :P which I check with mythtv profile running | 18:19 |
| Seeker` | is there a way of deleting directories from storage groups? | 18:20 |
| Raspberry | i also changed it so I'm not doing commflagging anymore during recording | 18:20 |
| Raspberry | can't do that with 0.21 either :) | 18:20 |
| superm1 | oh yeah i can't commflag on the same box i watch hd either | 18:21 |
| superm1 | used to commflag 2-3 shows and watch hd at same time | 18:21 |
| Raspberry | are you running hardy or gutsy? | 18:23 |
| superm1 | i develop on hardy and use hardy | 18:23 |
| Raspberry | this guy says sound doesn't work http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2008/04/mythtv-on-hardy.html -- but it works for me an dI didn't change anything... so not sure if he's mistaken or what... because there hasn't been a new mythbuild since then | 18:24 |
| Raspberry | sound works fine for me | 18:24 |
| superm1 | i use myth w/ pulse audio fine | 18:25 |
| superm1 | just asoundconf set-pulse | 18:25 |
| superm1 | and start myth | 18:25 |
| superm1 | and things work | 18:25 |
| Kargarian | ok i installed the restricted drivers, and i still cannot get dvd's to play within mythtv, is there somthing else i need to configure? | 18:25 |
| superm1 | Kargarian, in mcc you need the DVD codecs | 18:25 |
| Kargarian | mcc? | 18:26 |
| superm1 | mythbuntu-control-centre | 18:26 |
| Kargarian | yeah, i checked all of them off | 18:26 |
| Kargarian | and restarted | 18:26 |
| superm1 | then try another DVD made by a different company (in case its a DRM problem ) | 18:26 |
| Raspberry | since i seem to be out of it today-- any suggestions on how to full view mmc on a 800x600 display... I can't read it if it's larger and the magnifcation options (orca, et al) don't seem to be functioning correctly in Hardy | 18:27 |
| Raspberry | :) | 18:27 |
| Kargarian | i was able to play that dvd in a different pc running suse | 18:27 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, orca isn't working? | 18:27 |
| superm1 | in general - or just on mcc? | 18:27 |
| Kargarian | i don't think it's the dvd, buti will give another a try | 18:27 |
| Kargarian | justin the mcc, and then it installed them | 18:27 |
| Raspberry | in general | 18:27 |
| superm1 | Kargarian, hm interesting | 18:27 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, did you talk to TheMuso about it? | 18:27 |
| Raspberry | it starts ... it displays a preference dialog with nothing in it... and then it crashes... with "TIMEOUT: somthing has hung. aborting. | 18:28 |
| superm1 | he's done tons this cycle on accessibillity stuff | 18:28 |
| Raspberry | ok | 18:28 |
| superm1 | but mcc should work on 800x600 | 18:28 |
| superm1 | just make sure your font isn't set too large | 18:28 |
| Raspberry | the problem isn I'm doing this on a regular TV | 18:29 |
| Raspberry | so 1024 is just too tiny | 18:29 |
| Raspberry | and blurry | 18:29 |
| superm1 | vnc perhaps instead then | 18:29 |
| hti_pro | anyone having issues with mythtv on hardy, getting ready to update. Just wanted to see what i had in store for me | 18:29 |
| Raspberry | I used to use VNC with Gutsy, but it restarts X in Hardy now | 18:29 |
| Raspberry | :) | 18:29 |
| Raspberry | I make the connection from my hardy laptop via VNC... then the vnc window on the laptop goes black and X restarts on the MythTV box | 18:30 |
| Raspberry | :P | 18:30 |
| Raspberry | lots of problems today :) | 18:30 |
| darthanubis | hti_pro, no | 18:30 |
| hti_pro | :/ | 18:30 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, yeah, reconfigure vnc in hardy | 18:30 |
| superm1 | it will reinstall x11vnc | 18:30 |
| superm1 | its an annoying bug that vnc4server broke | 18:30 |
| Raspberry | just a dpkg-reconfigure eh | 18:31 |
| darthanubis | I use NX | 18:31 |
| darthanubis | faster | 18:31 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, no literally in mcc | 18:31 |
| superm1 | pick the reconfigure option | 18:31 |
| superm1 | for the services tab | 18:31 |
| Raspberry | ah ..well I can't read it :p | 18:31 |
| Raspberry | ok | 18:31 |
| Raspberry | at 800x600 I can read the text, but I can't slide the dialog up high enough to hit apply / ok | 18:32 |
| superm1 | hold alt | 18:32 |
| superm1 | and drag the window | 18:32 |
| Raspberry | it won't drag past the panel | 18:32 |
| Raspberry | at the top | 18:32 |
| Raspberry | I tried that :) | 18:32 |
| superm1 | you can try to X forward over SSH possibly | 18:32 |
| Raspberry | nvrmind :) I tied :P | 18:32 |
| Raspberry | it's working "now" :P | 18:32 |
| Raspberry | I'm trying not to complain to much - -so let me know whnen you've had enough | 18:33 |
| Raspberry | :P | 18:33 |
| superm1 | well anything that comes up as a major blocker we need to see some bugs filed | 18:33 |
| superm1 | this is crunch time | 18:33 |
| Raspberry | the way my day has been going -- I was probably holding ALT on my laptop keyboard and moving the mouse for the mythtv box :P | 18:33 |
| Raspberry | going through the mcc now... page by page | 18:34 |
| Raspberry | with the new mythbuntu logo -- think there will be any tivo complaints? it looks kinda similar doesn't it? | 18:35 |
| superm1 | does it? | 18:35 |
| superm1 | i hope no complaints on it | 18:35 |
| Raspberry | i've never used a tivo, but yeah -- http://dynamic.tivo.com/resources/images/downloads/TiVo_logo_lg_RGB.jpg | 18:36 |
| superm1 | oh interesting... | 18:36 |
| Raspberry | I can't imagine you wouldn't get a letter | 18:36 |
| superm1 | that can be bad i suppose | 18:36 |
| laga | does your logo have feet? | 18:36 |
| laga | err, our | 18:36 |
| Raspberry | yes | 18:37 |
| Raspberry | i can see two nubs | 18:37 |
| Raspberry | I guess you'd have to look at how malt-o-meal can sell cereals that are similar to the name brands | 18:37 |
| Raspberry | but they never use the same logos | 18:37 |
| Raspberry | or similar | 18:38 |
| superm1 | well do you like the new logo though :) | 18:38 |
| Raspberry | I like the new logo and theme a lot | 18:38 |
| superm1 | that's what matters | 18:38 |
| laga | well | 18:38 |
| laga | it's a TV | 18:38 |
| laga | :) | 18:38 |
| Raspberry | yeah, but Tivo has the (r) | 18:38 |
| laga | yeah.. complicated. | 18:39 |
| Raspberry | tivo just won a huge lawsuit too | 18:40 |
| Raspberry | against Dish Networks | 18:40 |
| Raspberry | dish has to turn off all their own DVRs | 18:41 |
| Raspberry | and i don't know if tivo is sue happy like Apple... apple just sued NYC for a "go green" logo the city has on their ecofriendly campaign | 18:41 |
| Daviey | :O | 18:43 |
| hti_pro | do i have to restart mythtv frontend after configuring lirc | 18:44 |
| Seeker` | hti_pro: I always have to | 18:45 |
| hti_pro | Seeker`: thanks | 18:45 |
| Raspberry | hti_pro: yes | 18:46 |
| Raspberry | ah -- since the upgrade all the remote info is missing :) | 18:46 |
| Seeker` | since upgrading to 8.04, I have noticed that if I have previously told myth to record a program, and I happen to be watching the channel before the recording starts, it "retunes" to the channel just before the program starts | 18:46 |
| Raspberry | i'll have to check that out | 18:48 |
| Raspberry | see if that happens to me | 18:48 |
| Raspberry | so -- what's the best way to turn the screensaver off? | 18:48 |
| Raspberry | since the upgrade the screensaver comes on after 15 minutes | 18:48 |
| hti_pro | any upside to using mplayer from within mythtv as opposed to the internal player | 18:48 |
| Raspberry | :P even when I'm watching a movie | 18:48 |
| Raspberry | hti_pro: the internal player is great in 0.21 | 18:49 |
| Raspberry | you can save your position in all your media now | 18:49 |
| Raspberry | not just tv recordings | 18:49 |
| hti_pro | Raspberry: cool, is there an issue with using the remote and mplayer from within myth, I mean when i use the remote does it simultaneously send commands to bot mplayer and myth | 18:49 |
| Raspberry | and all the buttons are the same ... no having to remember different behavior for mplayer v. internal | 18:50 |
| Raspberry | hti_pro: no | 18:50 |
| Raspberry | hti_pro: it sends commands to the application with focus | 18:50 |
| hti_pro | Raspberry: is there anything that the internal player can't do | 18:50 |
| Raspberry | wmv I think... and mov | 18:50 |
| Raspberry | I'd have to check again | 18:50 |
| Raspberry | it's much better | 18:50 |
| Raspberry | I reconfigured my file preferences to put everything on the internal player | 18:51 |
| hti_pro | i hate wmv's, all i really use are mpegs isos and nuvs | 18:51 |
| hti_pro | nuvs = mpeg i think | 18:51 |
| Raspberry | superm1: when I hit apply in mmc after my changes | 18:51 |
| Raspberry | hti_pro: then just internal is all you need | 18:51 |
| Raspberry | superm1: it's just hanging on "Configuring VNC Service" | 18:51 |
| superm1 | zuh oh... | 18:51 |
| superm1 | that's not a good thing | 18:52 |
| Raspberry | hti_pro: you can run the new mythtv 0.21 in gutsy w/o upgrading to hardy | 18:52 |
| superm1 | if its hanging for awhile | 18:52 |
| superm1 | then kill it | 18:52 |
| superm1 | and run this | 18:52 |
| Raspberry | hti_pro: I'd recommend staying at gutsy | 18:52 |
| superm1 | sudo /usr/share/mythbuntu-control-centre/bin/mythbuntu-control-centre | 18:52 |
| Raspberry | superm1: it's been hanging for at least 3-4 minutes | 18:52 |
| superm1 | and get us a trace on what's going wrong | 18:52 |
| hti_pro | Raspberry: so i've found, i have one slave backend running gutsy with gutsy-backports and my master is hardy | 18:52 |
| hti_pro | I think the only major issue with hardy right now is the /etc/network/interfaces file loses the <ifname> auto line | 18:53 |
| hti_pro | as far as mythtv goes anyway | 18:54 |
| Raspberry | superm1: ok -- I did that.. I'll try it again | 18:54 |
| Raspberry | superm1: I'm going to hit apply after each page this time | 18:54 |
| hti_pro | If I am wrong please anybody correct me before I update | 18:54 |
| Seeker` | Raspberry: I'm getting the screensaver come on too | 18:55 |
| Raspberry | i'm glad I'm not crazy :) | 18:55 |
| Raspberry | I thought there was an option in the mythtv config to disable the screensaver | 18:55 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, okay | 18:55 |
| Raspberry | but maybe that was just the mouse pointer | 18:56 |
| superm1 | bugs bugs bugs people, we dont catch these things unless you file them | 18:56 |
| Raspberry | I'll file it | 18:56 |
| superm1 | Seeker`, hti_pro ^ | 18:56 |
| Raspberry | I just want to fix it first | 18:56 |
| Seeker` | where do we file bugs? | 18:56 |
| Daviey | :O | 18:56 |
| Daviey | Seeker`: honestly? | 18:56 |
| Raspberry | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv | 18:56 |
| hti_pro | can't you just disable the screensaver in X | 18:56 |
| Seeker` | Daviey: I know launchpad, but I cant be bothered to find the exact path :P | 18:57 |
| Raspberry | hti_pro: as far as I know -- only if you're logged in as that user | 18:57 |
| Raspberry | superm1: do you think it's a bad Idea to remove all the mythplugins hit apply and then readd them? | 18:57 |
| hti_pro | anyone using zoneminder with mythtv | 18:58 |
| Daviey | Seeker`: decide if it is a mythtv issue, packaging issue or a mythbuntu problem (including mcc) | 18:58 |
| hti_pro | i am looking for a mythzmserver for a pure debian | 18:58 |
| hti_pro | without a myth front/back | 18:58 |
| hti_pro | or can i just transfer the ubuntu package to debian and install it there | 18:59 |
| superm1 | you'll need to rebuild the source package on debian then | 19:00 |
| Raspberry | I guess the way around it would be to stop mythtv from starting up when the mythtv user logs in and then change the screen saver | 19:00 |
| hti_pro | do you know where i can get the source package | 19:00 |
| superm1 | apt-get source mythtv on ubuntu | 19:00 |
| superm1 | or grab it from the bzr branch | 19:00 |
| superm1 | on code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv | 19:00 |
| Raspberry | i think I'm going to run a dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-frontend | 19:02 |
| superm1 | there is no debconf on the frontend that i know about | 19:03 |
| superm1 | we only put it on common, database, and backend | 19:03 |
| Raspberry | maybe I'll try it on common then | 19:03 |
| Raspberry | see if that gets the screensaver to turn off | 19:03 |
| Raspberry | superm1: when I went back into the mmc with sudo ... none of my changes that I had committed before (when I killed the mmc) had stuck... EXCEPT vnc service was now set to enabled and before it was disabled | 19:04 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, interesting | 19:04 |
| superm1 | well see this time when you run it, try to reconfigure vnc | 19:05 |
| superm1 | and see if there is a log spit back | 19:05 |
| Raspberry | ah | 19:05 |
| Raspberry | there's an error in the python script | 19:05 |
| hti_pro | has anyone actually used mythZoneMinder | 19:05 |
| Raspberry | ... /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mythbuntu_common/vnc.py line 63 | 19:05 |
| Raspberry | actually there are alot | 19:06 |
| Raspberry | core.py line 1344 | 19:06 |
| Raspberry | core line 1331 | 19:06 |
| Raspberry | changer line 248 and 470 | 19:06 |
| Seeker` | Daviey: I filed it under the link Raspberry privided | 19:07 |
| Seeker` | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/216432 | 19:07 |
| Raspberry | File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mythbuntu_common/vnc.py", line 63, in toggle_xorg have_modules = len(self.xorgconf.getSections("module")) > 0 AttributeError: "tuple" object has no attribute 'getSections' | 19:07 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, woah that's messed up... | 19:08 |
| superm1 | i've not seen any of that | 19:08 |
| superm1 | you have the latest versions of everything? | 19:08 |
| superm1 | particularly mythbuntu-common | 19:08 |
| Raspberry | yeah | 19:08 |
| Raspberry | i just did an apt-get update / upgrade | 19:08 |
| Raspberry | and I wen tthrough dselect and added every myth package I could find | 19:08 |
| Raspberry | because after the upgrade | 19:09 |
| Raspberry | I didn't have the backend | 19:09 |
| superm1 | please file a bug with as much info as you can | 19:09 |
| Raspberry | moving from gutsy to hardy didn't install the updated mythtv-backend packages and it got rid of the last ones | 19:09 |
| superm1 | about versions of mythbuntu-common, mcc | 19:09 |
| superm1 | and that backtrace | 19:09 |
| Raspberry | I'll rerun the mmc from my laptop so I can copy / paste into a browser | 19:09 |
| superm1 | need to get that fixed asap | 19:09 |
| Raspberry | what's the bestway to do a backtrace | 19:10 |
| Raspberry | i don't do them often enough to remember | 19:10 |
| Raspberry | when I run a mythtv-status it tells me it can't access the MythTV Perl API | 19:11 |
| Raspberry | am I missing something? | 19:11 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, that way i had you launch things | 19:12 |
| superm1 | with that long path | 19:12 |
| superm1 | all of that output | 19:12 |
| Raspberry | ok | 19:12 |
| superm1 | that you saw all these errors | 19:12 |
| superm1 | that's what i mean | 19:12 |
| Raspberry | I can do that | 19:12 |
| Raspberry | um... should I have a config for mythtv-status | 19:12 |
| Raspberry | it says I've got no config | 19:12 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, just make sure libmyth-perl is installed | 19:12 |
| superm1 | and that your backend is running upnp | 19:12 |
| Raspberry | libmyth-perl i sinstalled an dI know upnp "was" working :) because I can see the myth box on my vista machine as a media server | 19:13 |
| superm1 | hm interesting | 19:14 |
| superm1 | works for me (tm) :) | 19:14 |
| Raspberry | heh | 19:14 |
| superm1 | file a bug, and we'll see about it | 19:14 |
| Raspberry | you can't have mythmovies and mythvideo installed at the same time, right? | 19:15 |
| Raspberry | maybe i'm missing a repository, but I don't think so | 19:17 |
| Raspberry | I have the mythbuntu.org repos disabled | 19:18 |
| Raspberry | should I have it enabled? | 19:18 |
| a1fa | woot | 19:21 |
| a1fa | i purchased a 500gb hard drive | 19:21 |
| a1fa | its time to migrate to mythbuntu | 19:21 |
| a1fa | how buggy is new beta | 19:22 |
| Raspberry | on hardy... buggy :0 | 19:22 |
| darthanubis | not | 19:22 |
| darthanubis | its buggy for you | 19:22 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, you should be able to have both installed | 19:23 |
| Raspberry | ok | 19:23 |
| a1fa | should i install 7.10 or the new beta? | 19:23 |
| Raspberry | hmm ther emight be something going on with LIRC too... * Starting remote control daemon(s) : LIRC [fail] | 19:23 |
| superm1 | a lot of what Raspberry is seeing looks like upgrade bugs, not "new" bugs | 19:23 |
| Raspberry | I might blow the thing away and just install from a BETA Live CD | 19:24 |
| Raspberry | but I'll help debug this stuff first | 19:24 |
| Raspberry | :) | 19:24 |
| a1fa | i am going to try the beta disk first | 19:24 |
| a1fa | maybe its stable | 19:24 |
| a1fa | i need to dump my recordings database first | 19:24 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, ugh this vnc one actually looks like a royal pain | 19:24 |
| superm1 | it was stable before, and i think some dependent code might have broke | 19:25 |
| Raspberry | i'm going to try and connect and see if it works | 19:25 |
| Raspberry | connecting to VNC just crashes X | 19:25 |
| Raspberry | it doesn't restart | 19:25 |
| Raspberry | until I hit CTRL+ALT+BKSP | 19:25 |
| Raspberry | but I lose the display signal | 19:25 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, there is a lot of complications behind what's happening for that | 19:25 |
| superm1 | the new stuff is supposed to turn off vnc for the x server | 19:26 |
| superm1 | and turn it on for x11vnc | 19:26 |
| superm1 | but with that bug its not happening | 19:26 |
| superm1 | as soon as you file it, please get me a bug number so can figure out what is happening | 19:26 |
| a1fa | show of hands who is running that beta? | 19:26 |
| Raspberry | me ... as an upgrade | 19:27 |
| Raspberry | superm1: already filed it as bu #216440 | 19:28 |
| superm1 | thanks Raspberry | 19:28 |
| darthanubis | a1fa, me | 19:28 |
| Raspberry | up | 19:28 |
| superm1 | i'll see what i can do about it | 19:28 |
| Raspberry | yup | 19:28 |
| darthanubis | a1fa, since day one | 19:28 |
| darthanubis | hundreds of shows recorded | 19:28 |
| a1fa | anything i should be aware of? | 19:28 |
| darthanubis | a1fa, the documentation | 19:29 |
| darthanubis | the release notes | 19:29 |
| Raspberry | and darthanubis's attitude | 19:29 |
| darthanubis | and ppl who spread FUD | 19:29 |
| darthanubis | a1fa, my attitude has nothing to do with mythtv, mythbuntu, or thee facts surrounding these apps | 19:30 |
| darthanubis | gl | 19:31 |
| darthanubis | a1fa, also, listen to superm1 | 19:31 |
| a1fa | ok | 19:31 |
| a1fa | you guys need to work things out | 19:31 |
| Raspberry | a1fa: the beta worked great on Gutsy -- but I'm having issues with LIRC and other things on Hardy | 19:31 |
| Raspberry | a1fa: two of us in here this afternoon have confirmed issues with screensavers in Hardy | 19:32 |
| Raspberry | a1fa: still being active even when mythtv is running... so it comes on in the middle of watching something | 19:32 |
| Raspberry | a1fa: the 3 things I've found so far (in the last hour) with the beta on hardy is VNC doesn't work, the remote doesn't work and it LIRC fails to load it and the screensaver is enabled | 19:34 |
| hti_pro | what would cause an extreme amount of cpu time while running myth | 19:37 |
| hti_pro | all i did was hit esc to exit mythfrontend, then canceled the exit | 19:39 |
| Raspberry | i don't know, but there's a bug about that :0 | 19:40 |
| hti_pro | really, more info?? | 19:40 |
| Raspberry | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv | 19:40 |
| hti_pro | and also where is the setup for the keys in mythfrontend | 19:41 |
| Raspberry | hti_pro: under setup :) | 19:41 |
| Raspberry | set keys | 19:41 |
| hti_pro | is that under general or tv settings, or what? cuz im not finding it | 19:41 |
| Raspberry | i'll tell ya | 19:43 |
| Raspberry | it's up a level from all that | 19:43 |
| hti_pro | under utilities? | 19:43 |
| Seeker` | how can I stop the faint hiss i am getting on recordings? | 19:43 |
| Raspberry | yes | 19:43 |
| Raspberry | and then Edit Keys | 19:43 |
| hti_pro | i don't have edit keys under utilities, just Music Tools, Video Manager, and Setup | 19:45 |
| hti_pro | is it because of the frontend layout that im using | 19:46 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, found your bug | 19:47 |
| superm1 | its really bug 214914 | 19:49 |
| superm1 | which a fix is on its way up already | 19:49 |
| superm1 | in kde-guidance 0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu14 | 19:49 |
| Raspberry | ah | 19:50 |
| Raspberry | yup that's crashing left and right | 19:50 |
| superm1 | yeah probably broke jockey too | 19:50 |
| superm1 | and displayconfig-gtk | 19:50 |
| Raspberry | i've set my own password for the mythtv user now | 19:50 |
| superm1 | some 93 duplicates already made | 19:50 |
| Raspberry | so now I got in and turned off the screensaver | 19:51 |
| Raspberry | can't mythtv tell the screen saver to stay off | 19:51 |
| Raspberry | just like mplayer or vlc? | 19:51 |
| superm1 | it does | 19:51 |
| superm1 | look at /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log | 19:52 |
| superm1 | there should be something about it turning off the screensaver support | 19:52 |
| superm1 | or similar | 19:52 |
| hti_pro | is it the actual screen saver or just screem blanking | 19:52 |
| hti_pro | ...screen | 19:52 |
| Raspberry | it's the actual screensaver | 19:54 |
| hti_pro | oh, just curious | 19:54 |
| superm1 | your under xfce? | 19:54 |
| superm1 | or gnome when this is happening? | 19:54 |
| superm1 | and is myth autostarting? | 19:54 |
| superm1 | or you manually starting it | 19:54 |
| Raspberry | myth is autostarting | 19:54 |
| Raspberry | i set a password for the mythtv user | 19:54 |
| Raspberry | and then opened the control panel remotely o nmy laptop | 19:55 |
| Raspberry | and the screensaver was set to activate after 10 minutes of idle | 19:55 |
| superm1 | mythtv user??? | 19:55 |
| superm1 | dude | 19:55 |
| superm1 | run it as the normal user | 19:55 |
| superm1 | running it as ~mythtv causes breakage | 19:55 |
| superm1 | mythtv user is ONLY to be used for MYTHBACKEND and MYTHFILLDATABASE | 19:55 |
| superm1 | its a daemon user only | 19:55 |
| superm1 | the mythtv GROUP however is what you should be a member of | 19:56 |
| Raspberry | right | 19:56 |
| Raspberry | I didn't set this up that way :) Whoever created the mythtv packages for gutsy last August did :) | 19:56 |
| superm1 | do you have ubuntu-mythtv-frontend installed or something? | 19:56 |
| Raspberry | and it's just worked (tm) this whole time | 19:56 |
| Raspberry | yes | 19:56 |
| superm1 | argh | 19:57 |
| superm1 | yeah that's the breakage there | 19:57 |
| superm1 | please remove that | 19:57 |
| superm1 | we abandoned it | 19:57 |
| superm1 | but didn't get rid of the package | 19:57 |
| superm1 | in case someone "wanted" to try to sort out its problems | 19:57 |
| Raspberry | so when I did the upgrade -- it removed all the backend stuff | 19:57 |
| Raspberry | but THAT was the only package it left :p | 19:57 |
| superm1 | the autostart stuff in mcc starts up things a lot differently than that package does | 19:57 |
| superm1 | that "shouldn't" have happened | 19:57 |
| superm1 | file a bug on that too though with dpkg.log and /var/log/update-manager | 19:58 |
| Raspberry | becuse I started it up an dit couldn't talk to the backend | 19:58 |
| Raspberry | and the init.d script for the backend was still there, but it wasn't doing anything | 19:58 |
| Raspberry | about 15 minutes later after digging around I figured out none of the backend packages were installed | 19:58 |
| superm1 | a big upgrade bug like that we need to sort out | 19:58 |
| superm1 | i'm really hoping it was just transient for you | 19:59 |
| superm1 | as mirrors were updating or something | 19:59 |
| Raspberry | I'm pointed at archive.ubuntu.org | 19:59 |
| Raspberry | so ... should I uninstall all my myth stuff? | 19:59 |
| superm1 | yeah but i'm saying there was a mythtv upload like a day or so ago | 19:59 |
| Raspberry | and just install from scratch? | 20:00 |
| superm1 | just remove ubuntu-mythtv-frontend | 20:00 |
| superm1 | purge it | 20:00 |
| Raspberry | PURGE! | 20:00 |
| Raspberry | :p | 20:00 |
| superm1 | to get its conf files gone too | 20:00 |
| Raspberry | burn her burn her... she's a witch | 20:00 |
| Raspberry | there should be a disclaimer when you install / update the frontend package | 20:00 |
| Raspberry | saying it's not supported | 20:00 |
| Raspberry | or something like that | 20:00 |
| Raspberry | I want to set this stuff up the right way :) | 20:01 |
| Raspberry | but now have I messed up my mythtv user | 20:01 |
| Raspberry | I need to create a new account to run mythtv as, correct? | 20:01 |
| superm1 | well you just use your "user" account | 20:01 |
| superm1 | the regular one | 20:01 |
| superm1 | thaty ou can log into gnome with | 20:02 |
| superm1 | and xfce with | 20:02 |
| superm1 | and such | 20:02 |
| Raspberry | but I don't want to autostart my account | 20:02 |
| Raspberry | I use it for debugging | 20:02 |
| Raspberry | stuff like this :) | 20:02 |
| hti_pro | btw for anyone who cares, I switched from the G.A.N.T. theme to the Blue theme and the CPU wait thing is nearly gone, now only a few seconds wait where before was about 20 | 20:02 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, there was someone who figured out how to prevent it from autostarting in GNOME | 20:03 |
| superm1 | but only in xfce | 20:03 |
| superm1 | using the same account | 20:03 |
| superm1 | if you go into the gnome gui and uncheck the autostart there for it | 20:04 |
| superm1 | then that only affects gnome | 20:04 |
| Raspberry | so... if I do a fresh install of mythbuntu beta live cd ... will that solve all my problems? | 20:04 |
| Raspberry | ah | 20:04 |
| superm1 | well the kde-guidance thing will show up on archive.ubuntu.com in the next hour or two probably | 20:04 |
| superm1 | so as soon as you upgrade that, that will fix your vnc thing | 20:05 |
| superm1 | and the screensaver thing will be fixed once you don't use ubuntu-mythtv-frontend anymore | 20:05 |
| Raspberry | so what should I open th enext bug as | 20:05 |
| a1fa | 8.04 is installing | 20:05 |
| Raspberry | upgrading to hardy from gutsy uninstalls backend packages | 20:05 |
| superm1 | yeah file that against the mythbuntu project | 20:06 |
| superm1 | and put all logs in /var/log/update-manager | 20:06 |
| superm1 | so we'll see why that happened | 20:06 |
| Raspberry | and dpkg.log | 20:06 |
| superm1 | yeah | 20:06 |
| Raspberry | because I didn't do the upgrade from a gui | 20:06 |
| superm1 | how did you upgrade? | 20:06 |
| Raspberry | this is basically a headless system | 20:06 |
| superm1 | do-release-upgrade? | 20:06 |
| Raspberry | yes | 20:06 |
| Raspberry | --devel-release | 20:06 |
| superm1 | okay as long as you did that (and not dist-upgrade) | 20:07 |
| Raspberry | as specified on ubuntu's site | 20:07 |
| superm1 | then yeah file a bug | 20:07 |
| Raspberry | well I did a dist-upgrade AFTER that just to see if there was anything lingering, but mythtv didn't work before that | 20:07 |
| Raspberry | and the dist-upgrade didn't have anything to do | 20:08 |
| superm1 | ah okay | 20:08 |
| Raspberry | um... where's the bug page for mythbuntu? | 20:08 |
| superm1 | bugs.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ | 20:08 |
| Raspberry | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythbuntu | 20:08 |
| Raspberry | that's not it | 20:08 |
| Raspberry | a | 20:08 |
| Raspberry | ah | 20:08 |
| Raspberry | one thing that could benefit launchpad | 20:08 |
| Raspberry | is to have a central page that's simple | 20:09 |
| Raspberry | like bugs.debian.org | 20:09 |
| superm1 | well the thing is its used for more than just ubuntu bugs | 20:09 |
| Raspberry | i know | 20:09 |
| superm1 | so the "ubuntu" project has that centralized page at its project page | 20:09 |
| superm1 | but since we have some bugs that might not be ubuntu bugs, we have our own project page for them | 20:09 |
| superm1 | and we triage them when necessary to ubuntu source packages | 20:09 |
| Raspberry | it seem slike every time I try to track down a package it's got a different structure to it's url | 20:09 |
| superm1 | yeah you just need to get used to LP for that :) | 20:10 |
| Raspberry | I have to create a separate account? | 20:10 |
| Raspberry | to file bugs on edge? | 20:11 |
| Raspberry | it's asking me to log in again and my credentials don't work | 20:11 |
| Raspberry | I can file against the "non-edge" bugs site, right? | 20:11 |
| Raspberry | bugs look to be the same on both | 20:12 |
| superm1 | oh sorry i use edge | 20:13 |
| superm1 | i forgot most people dont | 20:13 |
| superm1 | just take out the .edge in the url | 20:13 |
| Raspberry | :p | 20:13 |
| hti_pro | what is edge? | 20:14 |
| Kargarian | hello. I have been trying to get x to display on my pvr 350, and the closest i got was during shut down, the shut down progress bar dispalys on my tv. Any ideas? | 20:14 |
| Raspberry | beta site | 20:14 |
| Raspberry | this is kinda my screensaver issue... https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/157158 | 20:14 |
| Raspberry | except mine is fade to black | 20:14 |
| superm1 | hti_pro, its the beta server | 20:15 |
| hti_pro | oh | 20:16 |
| hti_pro | do i edit keys on the frontend or with mythtv-setup | 20:16 |
| Kargarian | anyone? | 20:18 |
| hti_pro | it is probably in your xorg.conf file | 20:18 |
| Kargarian | yeah, but any ideas on what i should change? it's only during shutdown that i see something on the tv. | 20:19 |
| hti_pro | have you tried this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4466464 | 20:19 |
| hti_pro | check out the settings they use for the 350 and compare to yours | 20:20 |
| hti_pro | paste your xorg.conf file on pastebin and ill take a look | 20:21 |
| Kargarian | ok | 20:21 |
| Kargarian | waht's pastebin? | 20:21 |
| hti_pro | pastebin.ca go there and sign up, it is like a clipboard that you can share | 20:22 |
| Kargarian | ok will do | 20:22 |
| hti_pro | just found this, definitely sounds like windows --->You appear to have moved your mouse. Vista needs to be restarted for the changes to take effect. | 20:23 |
| a1fa | heh | 20:27 |
| a1fa | i need to enable vnc on this box | 20:28 |
| a1fa | i cant see shit ont v | 20:28 |
| a1fa | its blury | 20:28 |
| hti_pro | language!! | 20:28 |
| hti_pro | sorry, I have no room to talk | 20:28 |
| a1fa | english!! | 20:28 |
| hti_pro | lol | 20:28 |
| a1fa | ;P | 20:28 |
| hti_pro | good answer | 20:28 |
| a1fa | aight | 20:29 |
| a1fa | 8.04 beta looks promissing | 20:29 |
| hti_pro | sorry im not sure i can help | 20:29 |
| a1fa | i changed my ip to a static IP | 20:30 |
| a1fa | and its not coming up with that ip | 20:30 |
| hti_pro | whats it coming up with | 20:31 |
| Kargarian | ok i posted my xorg.conf | 20:33 |
| Kargarian | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4466464 | 20:33 |
| Kargarian | ops | 20:33 |
| Kargarian | wrong url | 20:33 |
| Kargarian | http://pastebin.ca/982651 | 20:34 |
| hti_pro | alright give me few mins gotta put the kids down for nap | 20:34 |
| Kargarian | ok msg me when your back | 20:35 |
| a1fa | fuck | 20:35 |
| a1fa | couple of errors | 20:35 |
| a1fa | its not recognizing the tv | 20:35 |
| a1fa | its starting up at 640x480 | 20:35 |
| a1fa | and it doesnt get ip correctly on startupi | 20:35 |
| Raspberry | yo have to modify the xorg.conf file | 20:36 |
| Raspberry | maybe not anymore | 20:36 |
| a1fa | manually? | 20:36 |
| Raspberry | bu tI did | 20:36 |
| Raspberry | with a keyboar d:P | 20:36 |
| Raspberry | sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 20:36 |
| Raspberry | or you probably want to use something else :p | 20:36 |
| Raspberry | sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 20:36 |
| a1fa | lol | 20:37 |
| a1fa | Raspberry: you talking to me? | 20:37 |
| a1fa | how do i fix the network issues? | 20:37 |
| a1fa | /etc/networking/? | 20:37 |
| a1fa | i am doing apt-get upgrade first | 20:40 |
| hti_pro | Kargarian: It looks like your pvr-350 is trying to use the nvidia driver, I don't think that wil work | 20:41 |
| Kargarian | humm | 20:41 |
| hti_pro | can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 20:42 |
| Kargarian | yeah | 20:42 |
| Raspberry | is there a way that I can clean up my back-end and the mythtv user account w/o destroying my database? | 20:43 |
| Kargarian | done | 20:44 |
| Kargarian | Hti_pro i added it tothe orignal post | 20:44 |
| hti_pro | ok i have a problem, everytime i try to go to pastebin.ca i get a blank windows | 20:47 |
| hti_pro | there it goes | 20:47 |
| Kargarian | http://pastebin.ca/982665 | 20:47 |
| hti_pro | do an lscpi and tell me what the bus location of your pvr-350 card is | 20:49 |
| Raspberry | wtf users and groups are locked... | 20:50 |
| Raspberry | even with sudo | 20:50 |
| Kargarian | humm comand not found | 20:50 |
| Kargarian | if ido lscpi | 20:50 |
| Kargarian | if i do lspci | grep "Internext Compression" i get results | 20:53 |
| Kargarian | 00:08.0 multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC15 MPEG2 Encoder (rev 01) | 20:55 |
| hti_pro | lspci is not found but if you pipe it through grep you get results | 20:55 |
| hti_pro | okay | 20:55 |
| hti_pro | and that is the output portion of the card? does the capture portion come up on a seperate line | 20:55 |
| Kargarian | what do you mean? | 20:56 |
| Kargarian | yeah that's the pvr 350 | 20:56 |
| Kargarian | if it helps i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Gutsy_hardware_pvr-350_TV-out | 20:57 |
| Kargarian | initally | 20:57 |
| hti_pro | nevermind, here is the major fault so far, line 120 on http://pastebin.ca/982651 indicates that the encoder is on 1:8:0 and it should be 0:8:0 | 20:57 |
| hti_pro | change that and see what happens, i don't think the driver for it should be Nvidia but well see | 20:58 |
| Kargarian | ahh ok | 20:59 |
| hti_pro | according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4466464 it should be ivtvdev, but there is some kind of note in your xorg.conf file about it so i don't want to change it just yet | 20:59 |
| a1fa | how can i hard code my ip settings? | 21:00 |
| a1fa | gnome-network config didnt work | 21:00 |
| hti_pro | edit your /etc/network/interfaces file | 21:00 |
| hti_pro | see man interfaces for more info | 21:01 |
| Kargarian | dumb question how to i restart it without havig the restart the whole box | 21:01 |
| a1fa | ok | 21:01 |
| a1fa | so debian | 21:01 |
| a1fa | its allready coded there | 21:02 |
| superm1 | oh that gnome tool has a bug right now | 21:02 |
| superm1 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/185854? | 21:02 |
| superm1 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/185854 | 21:02 |
| hti_pro | is there a line that says auto eth0 | 21:02 |
| hti_pro | or whatever your primary interface is | 21:03 |
| hti_pro | Kargarian: press ctrl+alt+backspace | 21:03 |
| hti_pro | Kargarian: if that doesnt work try /etc/init.d/gdm restart | 21:04 |
| Raspberry | new packages are out | 21:04 |
| Seeker` | Raspberry: What have they fixed? | 21:07 |
| Raspberry | nothing I have | 21:07 |
| Raspberry | downloaded new indexes | 21:07 |
| Raspberry | but no updates for me | 21:07 |
| Raspberry | I think it's time for a beer | 21:08 |
| Kargarian | yeah i restarted the system and still no x display though the pvr 350, it only occurs during shut down with the logo and progress bar | 21:08 |
| Kargarian | that's the only time i see x on my tv | 21:09 |
| hti_pro | do a grep EE /var/log/Xorg.log.0 and let me know if you get anything | 21:09 |
| a1fa | dude | 21:11 |
| a1fa | /etc/network/interfaces is set right | 21:11 |
| a1fa | still no IP address on my eth1 | 21:12 |
| a1fa | :( | 21:12 |
| hti_pro | a1fa: do you get any info on eth1 from ifconfig -a | 21:13 |
| a1fa | nothing | 21:13 |
| a1fa | just that it is up | 21:13 |
| a1fa | no IP | 21:13 |
| a1fa | i had to manually IP eth1 | 21:14 |
| hti_pro | have you tried the ifup eth1 script | 21:14 |
| Kargarian | failed to load module "type1" | 21:14 |
| a1fa | hti_pro: no i have not | 21:14 |
| a1fa | The following packages have been kept back: | 21:15 |
| a1fa | i want to force these packages | 21:16 |
| Kargarian | (EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0) | 21:16 |
| Raspberry | just rm -rf /* | 21:16 |
| Raspberry | that'll fix it | 21:16 |
| hti_pro | kargarian: don't do it | 21:16 |
| hti_pro | Raspberry you are mean | 21:16 |
| Raspberry | maybe he's that frustrated | 21:17 |
| hti_pro | I could see that | 21:17 |
| hti_pro | this may sound wierd but it worked for me once, copy your xorg.conf file to a safe place, then delete it and restart X | 21:17 |
| Raspberry | when I built the mythtv box I'm running I reinstalled it from scratch about 6 or 8 times | 21:17 |
| a1fa | how do you enable vnc on this thing? | 21:17 |
| Raspberry | so I had a pristine install | 21:18 |
| Raspberry | a1fa: it's broken | 21:18 |
| Raspberry | a1fa: normally you'd enable it through the control centre | 21:18 |
| a1fa | ok.. so i can just enable it dirty way | 21:18 |
| a1fa | run vncserver | 21:18 |
| superm1 | a1fa, the newer version of guidance-backends fixes it | 21:19 |
| a1fa | Version: 0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu14 | 21:19 |
| a1fa | this is the one i have installed | 21:19 |
| Kargarian1978 | sorry i am back | 21:19 |
| Kargarian1978 | that was odd | 21:19 |
| Kargarian1978 | anywho would that command i just posted be right | 21:20 |
| hti_pro | I've been pondering on updating to my hardy install for two days now, but it seems to be working. | 21:20 |
| a1fa | so control centre where? | 21:20 |
| a1fa | because i cant see anything on my big tv | 21:20 |
| a1fa | anyway to enable it through ssh? | 21:20 |
| hti_pro | Kargarian1978: what command | 21:20 |
| Kargarian1978 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=556478 | 21:20 |
| hti_pro | possibly | 21:21 |
| Kargarian1978 | well it's wortha shot | 21:21 |
| Kargarian1978 | brb | 21:21 |
| a1fa | how about this interfaces issue? | 21:21 |
| hti_pro | i got a few more suggestions if it doesnt | 21:21 |
| hti_pro | just make sure you backup your current xorg.conf | 21:22 |
| hti_pro | Kargarian1978: ^^^ | 21:22 |
| Raspberry | are you using Hardy? | 21:23 |
| hti_pro | ifup script didnt work | 21:24 |
| hti_pro | ? | 21:27 |
| a1fa | this is pissing me off | 21:29 |
| hti_pro | what does your /etc/network/interfaces file look like | 21:30 |
| a1fa | hold on | 21:30 |
| a1fa | x11vnc works for me | 21:31 |
| a1fa | btw | 21:31 |
| Raspberry | interesting | 21:32 |
| Raspberry | broken for me | 21:32 |
| a1fa | did u apt-get upgrade? | 21:32 |
| Raspberry | yes | 21:32 |
| a1fa | works fine for me.. | 21:33 |
| a1fa | my sanyo tv is so stupid.. corners are a bti blured | 21:33 |
| a1fa | so vnc helps alot | 21:33 |
| Raspberry | same here | 21:33 |
| a1fa | http://www.pastebin.ca/982731 | 21:33 |
| a1fa | it pisses me off | 21:33 |
| a1fa | i called their tech support | 21:33 |
| a1fa | they told me to take it back and get another one | 21:34 |
| a1fa | dip-twat doesnt get it that all his tvs are blured on the corners | 21:34 |
| a1fa | hti_pro: http://www.pastebin.ca/982731 | 21:34 |
| hti_pro | i think your missing a line | 21:34 |
| a1fa | which line is that? | 21:34 |
| hti_pro | add auto eth1 | 21:34 |
| hti_pro | to the top | 21:34 |
| a1fa | ok | 21:35 |
| hti_pro | this is your only interface? | 21:35 |
| a1fa | yeah | 21:35 |
| a1fa | this was added by the system configurator | 21:35 |
| hti_pro | i think this is the effect of the bug, are you running hardy | 21:35 |
| a1fa | how do you get release #? | 21:35 |
| a1fa | 8.04 beta + updates | 21:36 |
| hti_pro | ?? | 21:36 |
| a1fa | 8.04 beta iso + what-ever updates were provided by apt-get upgrade | 21:37 |
| a1fa | there is a command u.. something -d | 21:37 |
| hti_pro | ok | 21:37 |
| a1fa | it tells you the release # you are running | 21:37 |
| hti_pro | there is a bug with this currently | 21:37 |
| a1fa | i come from debian world :) | 21:37 |
| a1fa | everything is manual in debian | 21:37 |
| hti_pro | I swear by debian, just started using ubuntu for simplicity reasons | 21:38 |
| a1fa | i <3 debian | 21:38 |
| a1fa | thats why I am using ubuntu now | 21:38 |
| a1fa | haha | 21:38 |
| Raspberry | same here | 21:38 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, guidance-backends is on archive.ubuntu.com now | 21:38 |
| Raspberry | I was using mythtv on ubuntu but it was way too confusing | 21:38 |
| superm1 | i just updated it locally | 21:38 |
| Raspberry | superm1: thx | 21:38 |
| Raspberry | superm1: I just created a new user and logged in... setting up the control centre now | 21:39 |
| hti_pro | did that solve your prob a1fa | 21:39 |
| a1fa | i dont know i havent rebooted | 21:40 |
| a1fa | i need to import my old database | 21:40 |
| a1fa | and reboot | 21:40 |
| a1fa | one moment | 21:40 |
| Raspberry | superm1: i have the gnome-lirc module installed -- do you think that would be part of my lirc problem | 21:40 |
| superm1 | it could be | 21:41 |
| superm1 | would have to see what /etc/lirc/lircd.conf looked like | 21:41 |
| superm1 | and /etc/lirc/hardware.conf | 21:41 |
| superm1 | in a pastebni | 21:41 |
| Raspberry | k -- I'll try and restart this and see what happens | 21:41 |
| hti_pro | dont reboot just do /etc/init.d/networking restart | 21:42 |
| a1fa | how do i find out whats my password? | 21:44 |
| a1fa | my mysql password for mythtv | 21:44 |
| hti_pro | check /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt | 21:44 |
| a1fa | ty | 21:45 |
| Raspberry | the remote control daemon started this time ... so we'll see if it works | 21:45 |
| hti_pro | should be in there, if not you got me | 21:45 |
| hti_pro | i am not good at all with mysql | 21:45 |
| Raspberry | so... when I log into this new user | 21:45 |
| Raspberry | it asks me for my password every time AFTER login for a sudo request of some kind | 21:45 |
| superm1 | what sudo request? | 21:45 |
| Raspberry | can't tell | 21:46 |
| Raspberry | it doesn't say | 21:46 |
| a1fa | importing my tv shows :P | 21:46 |
| Raspberry | and nothing starts up after login :) | 21:46 |
| a1fa | lets see how this works out | 21:46 |
| superm1 | well check the running shows | 21:46 |
| superm1 | shows = programs | 21:46 |
| Raspberry | where do I change the resolution under a mythbuntu account? | 21:46 |
| Raspberry | I don't see it | 21:46 |
| a1fa | do it manually | 21:47 |
| a1fa | edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 21:47 |
| a1fa | its faster | 21:47 |
| Raspberry | i'm trying to work within the confines of the system | 21:47 |
| Raspberry | :) | 21:47 |
| Raspberry | I can't see any screen resolution menu options | 21:47 |
| a1fa | in what directory do you keep your videos/ | 21:53 |
| Raspberry | i keep them on a separate drive | 21:53 |
| Raspberry | and I put a symlink under the standard videos directory | 21:53 |
| a1fa | why not use recording groups? | 21:55 |
| EvilGuru | Why does mythbackend not start on start-up? | 21:55 |
| EvilGuru | Even though I have set it to autologin and start mythfrontend | 21:56 |
| a1fa | how do you enable mythweb? | 21:56 |
| hti_pro | install it | 21:56 |
| a1fa | its enabled | 21:57 |
| a1fa | mythweb is already the newest version. | 21:57 |
| hti_pro | i get an apache error on hardy | 21:57 |
| EvilGuru | No one have any idea? Is this the intended behaviour? | 21:58 |
| hti_pro | and i was afraid to update | 21:58 |
| a1fa | ahh | 21:58 |
| a1fa | it works | 21:58 |
| a1fa | ;p | 21:58 |
| Raspberry | since i got rid of the ubuntu-mythtv-frontend package this thing is a real mess | 21:58 |
| Raspberry | i get apache errors on hardy too | 21:59 |
| Raspberry | apache2 crashed | 21:59 |
| a1fa | mythweb video previews still dont work? | 21:59 |
| hti_pro | yep | 21:59 |
| superm1 | it was a mess - you just didn't know it :) | 21:59 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, ^ | 21:59 |
| hti_pro | php thing | 21:59 |
| Raspberry | I know it was going to be a mess :p | 21:59 |
| Raspberry | so I can't get the front-end to autostart | 21:59 |
| Raspberry | and I can't seem to get the resolution to change | 21:59 |
| Raspberry | and I also can't get the front-end to be full screen :) | 21:59 |
| hti_pro | put it in the xinitrc file | 21:59 |
| Raspberry | ah | 22:00 |
| hti_pro | you will still have to login first though | 22:00 |
| hti_pro | not sure how to do autologin | 22:00 |
| Raspberry | who uses this as a media center? | 22:00 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, i do | 22:00 |
| * hti_pro raises hand | 22:00 | |
| Raspberry | I can't be the only person who finds auto-login and auto-start useful :p | 22:00 |
| superm1 | the auto login and auto start works when you run mcc as the user you will be doing it from | 22:01 |
| hti_pro | still workin out bugs though, so i don't have auto start setup | 22:01 |
| superm1 | and then set the auto login usually | 22:01 |
| Raspberry | I have a girlfriend who uses this :P | 22:01 |
| Raspberry | it has to work ;) | 22:01 |
| superm1 | it creates a symlink in | 22:01 |
| superm1 | ~/.config/autostart | 22:01 |
| superm1 | and also sets the gdm auto login | 22:01 |
| Raspberry | I read the installation guide | 22:01 |
| hti_pro | mcc?? | 22:01 |
| Raspberry | and I didn't see the approved way to auto-start | 22:01 |
| Raspberry | but maybe I missed it | 22:01 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, well i suspect that we need to finish and/or update the install guide | 22:02 |
| superm1 | its probably a little out of date | 22:02 |
| Raspberry | it's still talking about 7.10 install | 22:02 |
| superm1 | yeah, a *little* out of date ;) | 22:03 |
| superm1 | if you'd be interested in helping to update it.... | 22:03 |
| superm1 | any help we can get is really appreciated | 22:03 |
| EvilGuru | Also what do I need to do to get mythfilldatabase to right every night? | 22:03 |
| superm1 | set the setting in your frontend | 22:04 |
| EvilGuru | will any frontend do? | 22:04 |
| superm1 | yeah | 22:04 |
| Raspberry | ok | 22:05 |
| Raspberry | um.. run frontend in a window is not selected in the config | 22:05 |
| Raspberry | and it's running in a window | 22:05 |
| Raspberry | i've tried unchecking and checking it | 22:06 |
| superm1 | compiz running? | 22:06 |
| Raspberry | doesn't seem to change it | 22:06 |
| EvilGuru | I have no idea where the option is :/ | 22:06 |
| hti_pro | EvilGuru: in tv settings | 22:07 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, check for compiz oin running processes | 22:07 |
| superm1 | if it's running it causes that kind of behavior | 22:07 |
| EvilGuru | hti_pro: Yep, am there | 22:08 |
| Raspberry | compiz isn't running | 22:09 |
| hti_pro | my bad its in general | 22:10 |
| hti_pro | last page | 22:10 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, well hm then | 22:11 |
| EvilGuru | hti_pro: Thanks | 22:12 |
| EvilGuru | Now, why would mythbackend not start up automatically? | 22:12 |
| Raspberry | how can I access the xfce control panel remotely? | 22:13 |
| EvilGuru | Currently I need to ssh in and then do mythbackend -d | 22:13 |
| superm1 | EvilGuru, that means that your permissions are likely wrong on the recordings directory | 22:13 |
| EvilGuru | Access: (0775/drwxrwxr-x) Uid: ( 109/ mythtv) Gid: ( 118/ mythtv) | 22:14 |
| hti_pro | have you checked your logs | 22:14 |
| EvilGuru | I have, but none of them gave anything useful | 22:14 |
| EvilGuru | syslog, kern.log, user.log, failog | 22:14 |
| superm1 | /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log | 22:14 |
| Raspberry | can I add mythfrontend to the xfce4-autostart app? | 22:14 |
| EvilGuru | daemon.log | 22:14 |
| hti_pro | is it in you /etc/rc3.d/ directory | 22:15 |
| hti_pro | does /etc/init.d/mythbackend start work | 22:16 |
| EvilGuru | hti_pro: I'll kill it and try | 22:16 |
| EvilGuru | No, it doesn't work | 22:17 |
| EvilGuru | * Starting MythTV server: mythbackend | 22:17 |
| EvilGuru | ...done. | 22:17 |
| hti_pro | ps aux | grep backend | 22:17 |
| hti_pro | does it list mythbackend with a whole bunch of options | 22:18 |
| superm1 | EvilGuru, look in that log i said | 22:18 |
| superm1 | it will tell you what's broke | 22:18 |
| EvilGuru | Wait, I lie, it has now started | 22:18 |
| EvilGuru | so the question is why it is not doing it at boot up | 22:19 |
| hti_pro | ok, are there entries in your /etc/rc3.d directory | 22:19 |
| a1fa | how do you fix audio streaming in mythweb's flash stream? | 22:19 |
| Raspberry | k | 22:19 |
| Raspberry | compiz packages are completely purged from the system | 22:19 |
| hti_pro | should be a link that looks like S24mythtv-backend numbers may be different | 22:20 |
| EvilGuru | hti_pro: Yes, S24mythtv-backend | 22:20 |
| hti_pro | try dmesg | grep mythtv | 22:20 |
| EvilGuru | nout | 22:20 |
| superm1 | a1fa, install the other ffmpeg in mcc | 22:20 |
| superm1 | the medibuntu one | 22:21 |
| hti_pro | EvilGuru, you got nothing | 22:21 |
| hti_pro | from dmesg | 22:22 |
| EvilGuru | Nothing at all | 22:22 |
| hti_pro | what about from /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log | 22:24 |
| EvilGuru | nothing that indicates any kind of failure | 22:24 |
| hti_pro | you do boot to gui mode right | 22:25 |
| Raspberry | is mythbuntu going to come out of beta at the same time as 8.04? | 22:25 |
| EvilGuru | I do | 22:25 |
| EvilGuru | And it automatically logs in and starts mythfrontend (done using the control centre) | 22:25 |
| a1fa | how can you share folders without editing samba.conf? | 22:25 |
| hti_pro | by editing /etc/exports | 22:26 |
| Raspberry | that's nfs | 22:26 |
| hti_pro | I know | 22:26 |
| hti_pro | thats the only other way i know, and he didn't say using samba, he just said without editing samba.conf | 22:26 |
| hti_pro | :\ | 22:27 |
| Raspberry | right | 22:27 |
| EvilGuru | Also, how can I make /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 always the same | 22:27 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, yeah | 22:27 |
| EvilGuru | As sometimes when I boot-up they switch | 22:27 |
| hti_pro | im not real sure EvilGuru | 22:27 |
| Raspberry | ugh -- I need to figure out this remote issue | 22:27 |
| superm1 | it wil come out of beta and turn rc this next week | 22:27 |
| hti_pro | on either matter | 22:27 |
| Raspberry | I wish I had more time... I'd write a logical GUI to LIRC | 22:28 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, well you can help out for 8.10 :) | 22:28 |
| Raspberry | a GUI in which you can test your remote | 22:28 |
| hti_pro | gotta go guys be back later | 22:28 |
| Raspberry | hti_pro: cya | 22:28 |
| superm1 | we've wanted to do that for a while, just a matter of taking the time to sit down and do it | 22:28 |
| superm1 | unfortunately fixing bugs ends up taking a big majority of the cycle.. | 22:28 |
| superm1 | so time for $new stuff is little | 22:28 |
| Raspberry | I would sya ... #1 annoyance with MthTV on linux... getting a remote to work | 22:28 |
| superm1 | gnome-lirc-properties has the right idea right now | 22:29 |
| superm1 | but i can also say mceusb2 works out of the box for me now | 22:29 |
| superm1 | with the stuff foxbuntu and i wrote | 22:29 |
| superm1 | for the lirc generator | 22:29 |
| Raspberry | it's not working for me | 22:30 |
| a1fa | aight | 22:30 |
| Raspberry | and I've got a mceusb2 remote | 22:30 |
| superm1 | mceusb2? | 22:30 |
| a1fa | i had to manually edit samba.conf :P | 22:30 |
| a1fa | back to the stoneage | 22:30 |
| superm1 | really... | 22:30 |
| Raspberry | yeah | 22:31 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, pastebin your /etc/lirc/lircd.conf | 22:31 |
| Raspberry | it worked fine in gutsy | 22:31 |
| superm1 | and | 22:31 |
| superm1 | Raspberry, pastebin your /etc/lirc/hardware.conf | 22:31 |
| Raspberry | http://pastebin.com/d4d58cbc2 | 22:32 |
| superm1 | okay that looks sane | 22:32 |
| superm1 | assuming that you didn't go changing that file that's included | 22:32 |
| Raspberry | bope | 22:32 |
| Raspberry | nope | 22:32 |
| Raspberry | I'll paste that too | 22:32 |
| superm1 | and the hardware.conf? | 22:32 |
| Raspberry | http://pastebin.com/d7d7eae59 | 22:32 |
| superm1 | okay. | 22:33 |
| superm1 | is lirc_mceusb2 loaded? | 22:33 |
| superm1 | lsmod? | 22:33 |
| Raspberry | lirc_mceusb2 16772 0 | 22:33 |
| Raspberry | lirc_dev 18248 1 lirc_mceusb2 | 22:33 |
| Raspberry | usbcore 169904 5 lirc_mceusb2,usbhid,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd | 22:33 |
| superm1 | okay... | 22:33 |
| Raspberry | so... yup | 22:33 |
| superm1 | does irw work? | 22:34 |
| Raspberry | yup | 22:34 |
| superm1 | okay so its the lircrc stuff not working | 22:34 |
| superm1 | what does ~/.lircrc look like | 22:34 |
| superm1 | and ~/.mythtv/lircrc | 22:35 |
| Raspberry | ah | 22:35 |
| Raspberry | you know what | 22:35 |
| Raspberry | I haven't moved the lircrc stuff from the mythtv account | 22:35 |
| superm1 | ha | 22:35 |
| Raspberry | heh | 22:35 |
| Raspberry | well | 22:35 |
| superm1 | well just run mythbuntu-lircrc-generator | 22:35 |
| superm1 | on this acct | 22:35 |
| Raspberry | it didn't work with the mythtv user :P | 22:35 |
| superm1 | it will make new stuff for you | 22:35 |
| Raspberry | lircrc not the lirc-gen | 22:36 |
| superm1 | i always forget which one we named it | 22:36 |
| Raspberry | there are two | 22:36 |
| superm1 | there is probably a symlink between the two because i forgot | 22:36 |
| superm1 | yeah there is | 22:36 |
| superm1 | ls -alh /usr/bin/mythbuntu-lirc* | 22:36 |
| superm1 | and you'll see they point to the same thing | 22:36 |
| Raspberry | ah | 22:37 |
| Raspberry | that still doesn't fix the windowed mythtv issue :p | 22:37 |
| Raspberry | that's th elast thing :) | 22:37 |
| Raspberry | that and the sudo password popup | 22:37 |
| superm1 | well you still didn't post a process list | 22:38 |
| superm1 | while its got the sudo popup | 22:38 |
| superm1 | to see what its asking fo | 22:38 |
| Raspberry | no :) | 22:41 |
| Raspberry | I refuse :P | 22:41 |
| a1fa | hehehe | 22:48 |
| a1fa | got everything working in 2h | 22:48 |
| a1fa | :P | 22:48 |
| a1fa | /dev/sda1 485G 8.4G 452G 2% / | 22:49 |
| Raspberry | ok | 22:58 |
| Raspberry | so I'm checking the ps aux | 22:58 |
| Raspberry | 1003 19339 7.3 2.0 159736 20868 ? S 16:58 0:00 gksudo -k mythbuntu-startup --load | 22:58 |
| Raspberry | root 19344 0.0 0.1 24328 1400 ? Ss 16:58 0:00 /usr/bin/sudo -S -p GNOME_SUDO_PASS -u root mythbuntu-startup --load | 22:58 |
| Raspberry | that's what is prompting me | 22:58 |
| Raspberry | on login | 22:59 |
| Raspberry | remote works now | 22:59 |
| Raspberry | but mythtv is still windowed | 23:00 |
| Raspberry | i remember why I didn't like the "dynamic" mythbuntu remote assignments | 23:01 |
| Raspberry | the ability to page up and page dn are gone | 23:01 |
| superm1 | those are very easily fixed | 23:01 |
| superm1 | two lines edited | 23:01 |
| Raspberry | right | 23:01 |
| superm1 | in ~/.lirc/mythtv | 23:01 |
| Raspberry | but I've already got that file | 23:01 |
| Raspberry | I'll just use my old one | 23:02 |
| superm1 | well its more nicely done in hardy... | 23:02 |
| superm1 | i would recommend switching to the new method | 23:02 |
| superm1 | it allows more fine tuned adjustments for different apps | 23:02 |
| Raspberry | why did you make up & down arrows the same as channel up and down | 23:02 |
| Raspberry | ? what's the new method? | 23:02 |
| superm1 | so ch+/- make more sense inside myth | 23:02 |
| Raspberry | dynamic is checked | 23:02 |
| superm1 | i liked the page up/down myself too, but too many people complained | 23:02 |
| superm1 | look at ~/.lircrc | 23:02 |
| Raspberry | ok | 23:02 |
| superm1 | you'll see what's different immediately | 23:03 |
| Raspberry | it's annoying that this remote has so many buttons and the default script doesn't use many of them | 23:03 |
| Raspberry | record should really start recording the show you're watching and bring up scheduling options | 23:03 |
| Raspberry | things like that | 23:03 |
| Raspberry | it used to | 23:03 |
| superm1 | it doesnt? | 23:03 |
| Raspberry | no | 23:03 |
| superm1 | that's surprising | 23:03 |
| superm1 | i wonder what happened to that | 23:03 |
| Raspberry | I don't want to sound like I'm complaining | 23:04 |
| Raspberry | I appreciate everything :) | 23:04 |
| superm1 | well if your willing to dig into the code, patches are appreciated | 23:04 |
| Raspberry | I'm trying to hire an employee right now | 23:04 |
| Raspberry | when I hire somebody I can have weekends and evenings for pet projects like this :) | 23:05 |
| superm1 | awesome :) | 23:05 |
| superm1 | yeah that's what it is for me right now | 23:05 |
| superm1 | and the folks who work on it with me | 23:05 |
| Raspberry | hell, I'd even pay for features | 23:05 |
| Raspberry | heck :p | 23:05 |
| Raspberry | I've been thinking about that lately too | 23:05 |
| superm1 | yeah several people have come forth and said that, the thing is that money makes the dynamic change on projects like this | 23:06 |
| superm1 | and i'm not sure that's the best idea at the current time | 23:06 |
| Raspberry | I might have one of th two people I have working for me work on these kinds of things in any downtime | 23:06 |
| superm1 | ha. that's be awesome | 23:06 |
| Raspberry | because to me time is more valuable than money | 23:06 |
| Raspberry | I can agree with the money changing the dynamic to a point | 23:07 |
| Raspberry | but if you said ... ok, we're not going to touch existing code | 23:07 |
| Raspberry | we're just going to write a plugin | 23:07 |
| Raspberry | or a new version of a plugin | 23:07 |
| Raspberry | or fork something | 23:07 |
| Raspberry | and if it's better... use it -- it's open / copyleft | 23:08 |
| Raspberry | gpl2 | 23:08 |
| superm1 | well let me phrase that better | 23:08 |
| Raspberry | and if you don't want to use it -- fine I'll use it privately | 23:08 |
| superm1 | myself and the primary folks here would prefer not to put money in place for ourselves | 23:08 |
| superm1 | if someone else wants to pay someone else to do things | 23:08 |
| superm1 | we'll be glad to add them in | 23:08 |
| superm1 | but treat them just like other community contributions | 23:08 |
| superm1 | through analyzing patches | 23:09 |
| superm1 | and stuff like that | 23:09 |
| Raspberry | right | 23:09 |
| Raspberry | I'm not saying there should be a free pass | 23:09 |
| Raspberry | I think the project is coming along nicely | 23:09 |
| superm1 | thanks :). well that being said, however a contribution is done/any contribution is appreciated. dev talk usually goes on in the #ubuntu-mythtv-dev channel whenever you'll have something to add | 23:10 |
| superm1 | we try to keep this channel to support and such | 23:10 |
| Raspberry | right | 23:11 |
| Raspberry | that's why I don't go in -dev :P or #mythtv | 23:11 |
| Raspberry | so is it the fact that this user has a passwd | 23:11 |
| Raspberry | that's causing the prompt? | 23:11 |
| superm1 | that shouldn't be it | 23:11 |
| Raspberry | or is there something in the keychain that I have to set to permanently remembre | 23:11 |
| superm1 | but it all depends on what the prompt is | 23:11 |
| superm1 | still need to see a process list to find out | 23:12 |
| Raspberry | it's the same prompt you get when running update-manager | 23:12 |
| Raspberry | asking you for your password to run an administrative task | 23:12 |
| superm1 | right, but need to see what process is asking for it | 23:12 |
| Raspberry | or something like that | 23:12 |
| Raspberry | it's hard for me to read | 23:12 |
| superm1 | usually gksudo XXX | 23:12 |
| superm1 | just ps aux into pastebin | 23:12 |
| Raspberry | i pased that :) | 23:12 |
| superm1 | while it's happening | 23:12 |
| Raspberry | 1003 19339 7.3 2.0 159736 20868 ? S 16:58 0:00 gksudo -k mythbuntu-startup --load | 23:12 |
| Raspberry | root 19344 0.0 0.1 24328 1400 ? Ss 16:58 0:00 /usr/bin/sudo -S -p GNOME_SUDO_PASS -u root mythbuntu-startup --load | 23:12 |
| superm1 | mythbuntu-startup? | 23:13 |
| superm1 | how did that get installed | 23:13 |
| superm1 | remove mythbuntu-live-autostart | 23:13 |
| Raspberry | *shrug* | 23:13 |
| Raspberry | heh | 23:13 |
| superm1 | did you manually install that? | 23:13 |
| superm1 | or was that an artifact of the upgrade | 23:13 |
| Raspberry | I installed all myth packages afterwards | 23:13 |
| Raspberry | when I found the backend missing | 23:14 |
| superm1 | ah well then you probably have a lot of stuff that you dont need | 23:14 |
| Raspberry | so I probably installed it | 23:14 |
| superm1 | if you installed that you might have install mythbuntu-live | 23:14 |
| superm1 | which you dont want either | 23:14 |
| Raspberry | would that be causing the windowed myth issue? | 23:14 |
| superm1 | yes it would | 23:14 |
| Raspberry | mythbuntu live wasn't installed | 23:15 |
| superm1 | mythbuntu-live-autostart though | 23:15 |
| Raspberry | yup | 23:15 |
| Raspberry | ok | 23:15 |
| Raspberry | I'll logout | 23:15 |
| Raspberry | I'll have to copy some of the existing user's autostart stuff | 23:16 |
| Raspberry | becaquse it logs me out completely when I quit myth | 23:16 |
| Raspberry | the stream plugin is cool | 23:17 |
| Raspberry | but the interface is really cumbersome | 23:17 |
| Raspberry | I know it does alot and I like it | 23:17 |
| Raspberry | but the left right tabs at the bottom ... save a stream ... go back... exit... et al | 23:17 |
| Raspberry | since I removed mythbuntu-live-autostart... the profile is just hanging at login | 23:18 |
| superm1 | did you purge live autostart? | 23:18 |
| superm1 | or just remove it? | 23:18 |
| Raspberry | purge | 23:18 |
| superm1 | okay good | 23:18 |
| superm1 | try giving it a fresh boot | 23:18 |
| superm1 | in case the session didn't nicely close | 23:18 |
| Raspberry | the status module is nice | 23:19 |
| Raspberry | I like that | 23:19 |
| superm1 | i'm glad we made it default | 23:19 |
| superm1 | it's awesome to have in ssh | 23:19 |
| Raspberry | yup | 23:20 |
| Raspberry | we should have two options for remotes though | 23:20 |
| Raspberry | basic config and advanced (aka use all my buttons... or "classic") config | 23:20 |
| Raspberry | this new config doesn't use a lot of they keys on this mceusb2 | 23:21 |
| Raspberry | it loaded this time | 23:21 |
| Raspberry | but it's still windowd | 23:22 |
| Raspberry | unless that's the way it's supposed to be | 23:22 |
| Raspberry | with the panel on top visable | 23:22 |
| Raspberry | off topic, but do people actually have cover images for all their videos? | 23:23 |
| superm1 | well in that panel, what else is running? | 23:23 |
| superm1 | have to ask $people, i dont | 23:23 |
| Raspberry | it'd be cool if it could just take a snapshot (or your choice of time in the video) and use that | 23:23 |
| Raspberry | or preview | 23:23 |
| Raspberry | anyway.. um | 23:24 |
| Raspberry | it's like there are two copies of mythtv running | 23:25 |
| Raspberry | my fault | 23:25 |
| Raspberry | I added it in | 23:25 |
| Raspberry | becaus it wasn't i nthe auto start | 23:25 |
| Raspberry | an dnow it's in there | 23:25 |
| Raspberry | i left the one I didn't create | 23:27 |
| Raspberry | and restarted | 23:27 |
| Raspberry | it's definitely not closing the user session cleanly | 23:27 |
| Raspberry | one you log out... you can't log back in again w/o restarting | 23:27 |
| Raspberry | or killing proceses <-- i'm going to confirm this now | 23:28 |
| superm1 | how are you loggin out? | 23:28 |
| superm1 | and are you closing all myth sessions when you do? | 23:28 |
| Raspberry | yup | 23:28 |
| Raspberry | nothing is running whne I log out | 23:28 |
| Raspberry | it logs oiut right away | 23:28 |
| Raspberry | just sits on a black screen w/cursor when trying to log back in | 23:29 |
| CyberCod | anyone have any tips for getting the creative CIMR100 remote to work? | 23:34 |
| Raspberry | no idea | 23:37 |
| Raspberry | it's the fact that X isn't getting restarted | 23:37 |
| Raspberry | that's hanging it up | 23:38 |
| Raspberry | and ... ok -- now the only thing on the panel is myth | 23:38 |
| Raspberry | and it's still windowed | 23:38 |
| superm1 | it's still *windowed* | 23:39 |
| superm1 | like it has window decorations? | 23:39 |
| Raspberry | no | 23:39 |
| Raspberry | like the panel is above it | 23:39 |
| Raspberry | that's why I'm asking if that's normal :) | 23:39 |
| Raspberry | and when videos play | 23:39 |
| superm1 | that's the "only" problem? | 23:40 |
| Raspberry | the panel is still on top | 23:40 |
| Raspberry | :P | 23:40 |
| Raspberry | hehe | 23:40 |
| superm1 | or is there a title bar on the window | 23:40 |
| Raspberry | yes | 23:40 |
| superm1 | if you use alt | 23:40 |
| superm1 | and drag it down | 23:40 |
| Raspberry | no | 23:40 |
| superm1 | is there anything on the sides | 23:40 |
| superm1 | ok | 23:40 |
| Raspberry | it's the panle | 23:40 |
| Raspberry | with the "strart menu" | 23:40 |
| Raspberry | and logout button | 23:40 |
| Raspberry | and task bar | 23:40 |
| superm1 | that's really odd that it would still be happening then | 23:40 |
| Raspberry | nothing on the sides | 23:40 |
| Raspberry | nothing on the bottom | 23:40 |
| superm1 | mythbuntu-startup would have caused it, or anything else running at the same time | 23:41 |
| superm1 | that is taking focus | 23:41 |
| Raspberry | I can hold ALT and drag around myth | 23:41 |
| superm1 | so look at that process listing again | 23:41 |
| superm1 | and see what else is running | 23:41 |
| Raspberry | http://pastebin.com/d5865500b | 23:41 |
| Raspberry | that's everything running as that user | 23:42 |
| Raspberry | so you think if I wipe the home directory -- that'd fix the issue | 23:44 |
| Raspberry | now that those packages are gone? | 23:44 |
| superm1 | well there ar e few more suspects here | 23:44 |
| superm1 | from ssh | 23:44 |
| superm1 | with the thing stuck on top | 23:44 |
| superm1 | kill tracker | 23:44 |
| superm1 | gnome power manager | 23:45 |
| superm1 | gam server | 23:45 |
| superm1 | and thunar | 23:45 |
| Raspberry | ok, but they're just going to come back next login | 23:45 |
| superm1 | yeah i'm just saying to debug | 23:45 |
| superm1 | if they are causing it | 23:45 |
| Raspberry | k | 23:45 |
| superm1 | myth will come back to the front hopefully | 23:45 |
| superm1 | and the python for the system-config-printer | 23:45 |
| Raspberry | killed everything | 23:49 |
| superm1 | and now hit alt-tab | 23:49 |
| Raspberry | didn't take the focus | 23:49 |
| superm1 | and see if it can take focus | 23:49 |
| Raspberry | I killed the panel :p | 23:49 |
| Raspberry | that fixed it | 23:49 |
| superm1 | haha | 23:49 |
| Raspberry | let me slay the user | 23:50 |
| Raspberry | and log in again | 23:50 |
| superm1 | okay well in any case, you might want to remove those apps anyway | 23:50 |
| superm1 | if you dont need them | 23:50 |
| superm1 | they came with ubuntu-desktop | 23:50 |
| Raspberry | right | 23:50 |
| Raspberry | yup and I purged that meta-package already | 23:50 |
| superm1 | keescook, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=753434 :*( | 23:52 |
| Raspberry | hmm | 23:55 |
| Raspberry | no | 23:55 |
| Raspberry | didn't fix it | 23:55 |
| Raspberry | i'll play around with it some more | 23:55 |
| Raspberry | thanks for the help | 23:55 |
| Raspberry | I've been up for 18hrs | 23:55 |
| Raspberry | I'm ready for a nap :p | 23:55 |
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