[03:12] lamont: Around? [03:15] am now [03:15] wow. and only 3 minutes of separation [03:15] Well, I try. =) [03:15] The ia64 box is finally back up and running - Is there any use in having Ubuntu on it? [03:16] It's got Debian sid from about a year ago on it now. [03:17] well, if you wanted to burn an alternate dvd and test the install, that'd be _wonderful_... [03:17] * lamont has been busy [03:21] It's a remote box, so I can't do install testing. [03:22] ah, well then. [03:23] * lamont hasn't tested hardy at all, other than far enough to know that do-release-upgrade -d makes seemingly sane decisions about what to do going gusty->hardy [03:25] do-release-upgrade? [03:25] Wassat? [03:25] iz ubuntu-speak for "do what it takes" [03:25] it does the magic of dapper->hardy, or gutsy->hardy, or $N->$N+1 [03:26] Ah interesting. [03:26] So apt-get dist-upgrade is officially the Wrong Thing now? [03:31] jbailey: since dapper->edgy, iirc [03:31] or was it breezy->dapper... [03:31] can't remember [03:32] update-manager is the gui versoin [03:32] do-release-upgrade is server-ish [03:32] Weird. [03:32] I also just use apt-get for everything. [03:33] And I tend to assume that as long as I have the main meta packages installed that everything will be alright. [03:38] mostly [03:39] edgy or feisty is when evms went away, and if you didn't know to nuke it, (and had raid???) then there was no love.; [03:39] Right. [03:39] Why is volume management on Linux so doomed? [03:39] and then you booted from a livecd and fix0red it and rebuilt the initramfs and then there was love again [03:39] I'm still pining after NetWare. [03:39] for more fun, gutsy or maybe feisty dropped raid support from the livecd -> more pain if y ou did taht [03:39] * lamont did that doo much [03:39] So far, that's the only OS that has gotten it right. [05:39] alternate dvd for Hardy? [05:40] * andrewks is the hoster of said remote ia64 box