[00:00] <deflated> babo: I think it's not possible but maybe there's a module for it.
[00:00] <deflated> CelticLord, bonne nuit
[00:00] <sveakex> Soleone: i grew tired of xfce really fast, especially when it destroyed how everything looked like when i installed some gnomelibs
[00:01] <charles|64> Adpad: it doesnt register my keys
[00:01] <Soleone> sveakex: i am really looking forward to KDE 4
[00:01] <Adpad> charles|64: in amarok it didn't register them when you tried to setup the shortcut?
[00:01] <charles|64> Adpad: correct
[00:02] <xlriut> Hello, when I type xbacklight -inc 10%, it sometimes decreases 10% instead. What might be the problem? Thanks.
[00:02] <hischild> charles|64, amarok doesn't see global shortcuts. use windows z till b for it instead.
[00:02] <Adpad> charles|64: go to system -> pref -> keyboard -> layouts and tell me which keyboard model is selected?
[00:02] <Adpad> hischild: it works for my keyboard - logitech mx5000
[00:02] <sami> hello
[00:02] <sveakex> Soleone: download the kde4 live cd from their website to have a real look at it ;)
[00:03] <StPatrick> GIn,  When I try to use compiz, it won't load, and i have trouble getting a game to work, that should be working in linux
[00:03] <hischild> Adpad, by default amarok won't accept global multimedia shortcuts.
[00:03] <sveakex> Soleone: i haven't seen kde4 irl, it looks good, but i am probably going to stick with gnome
[00:03] <Soleone> sveakex: i have. but i did not install it, so i had to 3d effects, still very nice and shiny
[00:03] <charles|64> Adpad: generic
[00:03] <sveakex> Soleone: since i like how it looks like and i use gtk programs mostly
[00:03] <sveakex> Soleone: hehe :)
[00:03] <GIn> StPatrick: what card is it?
[00:04] <sveakex> Soleone: so which file browser are you going to test now?
[00:04] <Adpad> charles|64: I read some posts on the forums that said that changing that through the Choose option fixed audio shortcuts
[00:04] <ponygirl> What are you looking for?
[00:04] <herby_> how can someone upgrade compiz to a more featured version than the default desktop fx?
[00:04] <StPatrick> GIn,  I have NO idea, lmao.... give me a minute to look it up. I can tell you my lappy is a Toshiba Satellite A205-S5800
[00:04] <Adpad> charles|64: you can try to choose one of the Logitech ones and see if that helps
[00:04] <hischild> anyway, good luck folks and till soon.
[00:04] <charles|64> Adpad: what keyboard do you have selected in the keyboard
[00:04] <Adpad> I use "Logitech Cordless Desktop Pro"
[00:05] <Shii> how do i get the unarchiver to support RAR?
[00:05] <Free_Bull> hi
[00:05] <Adpad> charles|64: but that's for the logitech MX5000
[00:05] <tim___> Which console fonts are you using? I like terminus but it doesn't support bold text in font size 10.
[00:05] <eduardo> whats the b.est mp3 downloader for ubuntu?
[00:05] <Adpad> charles|64: you can also try another generic one - I read on one particular post that it helped someone enable their multimedia keys...
[00:05] <Shii> eduardo: wget
[00:05] <sveakex> tim___: i am using the ubuntu default
[00:05] <Soleone> sveakex: Krusader. just installed. looks promising
[00:05] <svu> compiz cannot acquire compositing manager. wtf?
[00:05] <sveakex> tim___: at size 11 i think
[00:05] <eduardo> Shii: what do you mean with wget?
[00:05] <charles|64> Adpad: i think i got it hang on
[00:05] <JeNnA> Hello
[00:05] <Adpad> charles|64: excellent, what did you change?
[00:05] <Shii> eduardo: you mean a way to download .mp3 files on the web, right?
[00:06] <sveakex> Soleone: can you link me a screenshot? i am a bit lazy x)
[00:06] <eduardo> Shii: yes
[00:06] <habernet> sorry guys..what do i do to install ccsm in terminal again
[00:06] <habernet> ?
[00:06] <eduardo> Shii: something like limewire..
[00:06] <Shii> lol
[00:06] <dakira> does anyone know how to get debs of older wine releases? the current one is 0.9.59.. I'd really like to have 0.9.58.. any clues?
[00:06] <charles|64> Adpad: the keyboard type to a logitech
[00:06] <Shii> well, limewire works on ubuntu
[00:06] <tim___> sveakex: Thanks, but Monospace is ugly. I use the console for nearly everything and monospace is hard to read.
[00:06] <Soleone> sveakex: yea, wait a minute. i will look at the features
[00:06] <Adpad> charles|64: excellent - is it working?
[00:06] <eduardo> Shii: i know but i think limewire has something to do with my random user log off
[00:06] <sveakex> tim___: what did you say you use again? i might give it a try
[00:07] <charles|64> Adpad: dunno yet still setting keys lol ill let you know in a sec
[00:07] <sveakex> Soleone: thanks :)
[00:07] <tim___> sveakex: I'm using terminus.
[00:07] <t1n0m3n> how do I start the restricted manager?
[00:07] <Adpad> cool
[00:07] <Shii> eduardo: hmm... i don't know how to diagnose java problems, but you should ask about that
[00:07] <lordleemo> dakira: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html
[00:07] <Shii> it might affect other software
[00:07] <sveakex> t1n0m3n: bläh, i don't have that one installed. :(
[00:07] <habernet> how do i install ccsm in terminal
[00:07] <sveakex> tim___: *
[00:07] <bastid_raZor> !ccsm
[00:07] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[00:07] <eduardo> Shii: what program do u use for mp3 downloading?
[00:07] <tim___> sveakex: *?
[00:08] <palomer_> all my windows lost they decorations
[00:08] <palomer_> what happened?
[00:08] <deflated> Goodbye.
[00:08] <t1n0m3n> cool, thanks for the name, I couldnt remember what it was called
[00:08] <Shii> eduardo: right now i am using bittorrent, ripping CDs, and using wget.
[00:08] <_maw> anyone used this wireless card? http://tinyurl.com/56nj83
[00:08] <eduardo> palomer_: try to set them uo again.
[00:08] <sveakex> tim___: i wrote what i wanted to write to you to the wrong user because i am bad at tabbing
[00:08] <eduardo> Shii: how do u use wget to download music?
[00:08]  * sveakex slaps himself.
[00:08] <sveakex> eduardo: i can query you about that ok?
[00:08] <tim___> sveakex: No problem. I like irssi for the reason that it supports tab completion.
[00:08] <scottyL> Well, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like you all to meet me: the officially least experienced Linux user in the world
[00:08] <Free_Bull> I'm trying to install linux on one of my computers, but when I but in the disk, it loads linux, i press start/install ubuntu and i get to a tan screen with a mouse and nothing else happens
[00:09] <StPatrick> GIn,  I cant seem to find it in my hardware info list
[00:09] <scottyL> Now that I have linux up and running
[00:09] <eduardo> sveakex: as u wish
[00:09] <scottyL> With a total of 0.0 hours logged in a Linux machine
[00:09] <sveakex> tim___: i use weechat, almost the same imo
[00:09] <eduardo> sveakex: i dunno how to use wget to download music
[00:09] <Shii> eduardo: well... you know... just find a friend with more music than you and set them up with an http server
[00:09] <Shii> then you can wget it :)
[00:09] <tim___> sveakex: Thanks, I'll try it out.
[00:09] <dakira> lordleemo: thx!
[00:09] <Free_Bull> I'm trying to install linux on one of my computers, but when I but in the disk, it loads linux, i press start/install ubuntu and i get to a tan screen with a mouse and nothing else happens
[00:09] <charles|64> Adpad: all but the play pause button lol
[00:09] <StPatrick> GIn, Ok, found it.   GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller
[00:09] <lordleemo> dakira: your welcome
[00:10] <bastid_raZor> eduardo; where is the music you are trying to download? like a .torrent? or from a server somewhere?
[00:10] <Adpad> charles|64: excellent, I know how to fix that I think
[00:10] <sveakex> tim___: just beware of all the extreme colors, i turned almost all of them off
[00:10] <tim___> Shii: My favorite downloading manager is aria2.
[00:10] <cockroack> hello
[00:10] <tim___> sveakex: Ok.
[00:10] <GIn> StPatrick: lspci | grep VGA   shuld tell you what card you got
[00:10] <charles|64> Adpad: really im all ears
[00:10] <eduardo> bastid_raZor: is trying to find another mp3 downloader rather than limewire
[00:10] <Shii> tim___: thanks for the tip, i couldn't find a gui
[00:10] <Adpad> charles|64: in the Amarok Global Shortcuts - is that where you enabled your other keys?
[00:10] <eduardo> bastid_raZor: I'm*
[00:10] <charles|64> Adpad: yeah
[00:10] <bastid_raZor> eduardo; use a torrent program.. like transmission or deluge or even ktorrent
[00:10] <cockroack> I am having some problms with mounting my media drives
[00:11] <Adpad> charles|64: essentially, you should try disable Play and Pause there (in terms of shortcut keys) and enable ONLY the Play/Pause option with your media key
[00:11] <cockroack> it says
[00:11] <cockroack> Mounting /media/Amuse failed.
[00:11] <cockroack> $LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[00:11] <cockroack> Failed to mount '/dev/sda5': Operation not supported
[00:11] <cockroack> Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:
[00:11] <FloodBot2> cockroack: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <Adpad> let me know if that works ;)
[00:11] <zezom> is there a way to append a line of text to the beginning of a file? like  echo foo >> file ?
[00:11] <eduardo> bastid_raZor: any other P2P?
[00:11] <bastid_raZor> !torrent | eduardo
[00:11] <ubotu> eduardo: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[00:11] <cockroack> i have installed windows also
[00:11] <tim___> Shii: There is a GUI but it didn't cover all of its features.
[00:11] <Adpad> charles|64: let me know if it works
[00:11] <Free_Bull> I'm trying to install linux on one of my computers, but when I but in the disk, it loads linux, i press start/install ubuntu and i get to a tan screen with a mouse and nothing else happens
[00:11] <eduardo> !P2P
[00:11] <ubotu> Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[00:11] <gluer> shii: http://www.veen.com/jeff/archives/000573.html
[00:11] <cockroack> does anyone knows what to do, i didnt understand this choice 1
[00:12] <charles|64> Adpad: nope
[00:12] <eduardo> !gnutella
[00:12] <ubotu> Gnutella clients: GTK-Gnutella (GTK, stand-alone), gifTui, giFToxic (GTK, based on giFT), Apollon (KDE, based on giFT), mldonkey-gui (GTK, based on MLDonkey), KMLDonkey (KDE, based on MLDonkey), !Limewire, !Frostwire (Java, not in the !repositories) - See also !P2P
[00:12] <TheFearsomeFufu> !bittorrent
[00:12] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[00:12] <phil_> hey guys, how do i install comiz fusion manager thing in terminal??
[00:12] <CorbinFox> free_bull: what kind of computer?  either way, i think i had a similar problem that the boot command "noapic nolapic" fixed up
[00:12] <cockroack> because i dont have any external device in my system
[00:12] <sveakex> eduardo: read my query
[00:12] <Adpad> charles|64: okay, ensure that that specific media key isn't being used for any other shortcut -- either in amarok or in your system -> pref -> keyboard shortcuts
[00:12] <eduardo> sveakex: where?
[00:12] <tim1> sveakex: Thanks for the tip. WeeChat looks much better than irssi.
[00:12] <GIn> StPatrick: sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri  and then restart X (logoff and login back )
[00:13]  * eduardo loves irssi.
[00:13] <Free_Bull> it's an old emachines with a celeron processor and 256 kb of ram
[00:13] <StPatrick> GIn,
[00:13] <gluer> shii: set that up with mp3.com ;-)
[00:13] <charles|64> Adpad: YOU SO ROCK!!!
[00:13] <GIn> StPatrick: that should fix the porblem according to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=583081]
[00:13] <StPatrick> GIn,  Ok, just a sec
[00:13] <cockroack> hello
[00:13] <Adpad> charles|64: hehe, excellent, glad I could help dude :)
[00:13] <progmano2> Free_Bull: use the alternate install disc http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[00:13] <Soleone> sveakex: screenshots coming up...
[00:13] <sveakex> tim1: yeah, i use it mostly because i can configure it easily to connect to the servers i want to (irssi can that aswell probably but i didn't bother to learn), and it has a userlist on the right
[00:13] <phil_> what is the command to install ccsm in terminal??
[00:13] <sveakex> Soleone: aye! :)
[00:14] <bastid_raZor> !ccsm > phil_
[00:14] <sveakex> eduardo: what irc client are you using?
[00:14] <eduardo> sveakex: irssi
[00:14] <matthew_> can I ask a question about the package manager?
[00:14] <Soleone> sveakex: http://vs1814.vserver4free.de/pics/
[00:14] <eduardo> matthew_: ask
[00:14] <Soleone> sveakex: exactly what i was looking for
[00:14] <srodden> Hi, anyone have a working vanilla 7.10? I need a copy of the /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default file *blush*
[00:14] <sveakex> eduardo: you should see act and a number
[00:14] <Free_Bull> aww, ok, i'll go download and burn it and try that
[00:14] <phil_> bastid_razor ?? i didnt get anything from ubotu
[00:14] <Free_Bull> thanks for the help
[00:14] <sveakex> eduardo: press alt and then that number at the same time
[00:14] <sveakex> you can try different numbers
[00:14] <rafiux> hello
[00:14] <bastid_raZor> phil_; that would have been a private message.. but i'll resend it.
[00:14] <sveakex> for different windows
[00:14] <bastid_raZor> !ccsm | phil_
[00:14] <ubotu> phil_: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[00:15] <sveakex> Soleone: let me see :)
[00:15] <StPatrick> GIn,  Says its already the newest version
[00:15] <matthew_> The package manager isn't installing the php5.load and php5.conf files when I try to install the php5 modual for apache
[00:15] <matthew_> It installs everything else
[00:15] <GIn> StPatrick: do you have xgl installed?
[00:15] <StPatrick> GIn,  What what now?
[00:15] <progmano2> phil_: sudo aptitude install simple-ccsm
[00:15] <herby_> ubotu, what features does it add to compiz?
[00:15] <phil_> thanks
[00:15] <tim1> sveakex: Yeah, I agree. There's one thing I don't like about it: When a message begins with my username it will not be highlighted like in irssi
[00:16] <tim___> bye
[00:16] <sveakex> Soleone: looks good, midnightcommander is similar, just that is in the terminal instead :)
[00:16] <eduardo> matthew_: have u tried installing them from terminal?
[00:16] <matthew_> no
[00:16] <matthew_> whats the command?
[00:16] <sveakex> tim1: you can change it in the configuration file
[00:16] <eduardo> matthew_: sudo apt-get install filename
[00:16] <matthew_> k
[00:16] <matthew_> I'll try that
[00:16] <sveakex> tim1: i really changed loads in there, added servers, disabled 95% of all the colors
[00:16] <sveakex> :P
[00:16] <Soleone> sveakex: i somehow dislike console mode for editors and file managers
[00:16] <eduardo> matthew_:  :)
[00:16] <Kenshi_> Aí rapaziada
[00:17] <sveakex> Soleone: hehe :P
[00:17] <sveakex> Soleone: if you ever ssh into your computer then it might be useful ;)
[00:17] <Adpad> Does anyone know if it is a security risk to disable "Block external broadcast" ?
[00:17] <charles|64> Adpad: heres a crazy one for you my keyboard has a "zoom" button how do i get compiz linked to that button?
[00:17] <Kenshi_> Queria avisar a vocês que tem gente vendendo cds de Ubuntu Linux no MERCADO LIVRE.
[00:17] <tim1> sveakex: The configuration file doesn't seem to be created automatically, does it?
[00:17] <krim> I used to use the negative thingy on Compiz at night so it wouldn't be like staring into a lightbulb but now I switched to Darklooks theme which makes the colours look alright, but is there a way to make the white background on pages I visit with Firefox into black?
[00:17] <cockroack> hello, if i do the mount by force, is there any possibilities of ruining my data?
[00:17] <Adpad> charles|64: hmmm ;)  My keyboard also has a zoom button - let me check out compiz shortcuts, one second
[00:17] <GIn> StPatrick: what does the command glxinfo tell you?
[00:18] <sveakex> tim1: it is created automatically, or it did for me, ~/.weechat/weechat.rc
[00:18] <charles|64> Adpad: kool
[00:18] <charles|64> Adpad: im going to pm you
[00:18] <sveakex> tim1: is the location i think, atleast the folder should be correct
[00:18] <eduardo> Kenshi is saying that there's people selling ubuntu cds on www.mercadolibre.com
[00:18] <sveakex> eduardo: did you see my query yet?
[00:18] <Adpad> charles|64: I won't be able to respond - nickname not registered ;) let's chat here rather?
[00:18] <tim1> sveakex: yeah, you're right. thanks
[00:18] <eduardo> sveakex: yeah, and i aswered it
[00:18] <charles|64> Adpad: kool
[00:18] <StPatrick> GIn,  a bunch of numbers?
[00:19] <StPatrick> GIn,  And all kinds of other tings
[00:19] <GIn> StPatrick: try glxinfo | grep direct
[00:19] <Soleone> sveakex: that is actually true, haven't thought of that
[00:19] <StPatrick> GIn,  Thanks for tryin to help man, Im gonna have to try to deal with it later. I gotta get going.
[00:19] <GIn> StPatrick: g'luck ;)
[00:19] <Kenshi_> Guys, i said that there are people SELLING Ubuntu Linux cds on our local eBay.
[00:20] <Soleone> sveakex: i think i will install midnightcommander on my server
[00:20] <sveakex> Soleone: hehe :)
[00:20] <StPatrick> GIn,  Thanks, Chief. Ill be back later. I want Compiz working, I know it'll work with my card, cause it worked in Mandriva.
[00:20] <Soleone> sveakex: after i fix my apt-get problem :)
[00:20] <eduardo> does anyone know an msn messenger application which will let me chat on "invisible" status?
[00:20] <Kenshi_> ...
[00:20] <sveakex> Soleone: what's up with apt-get?
[00:20] <Soleone> sveakex: i accidently deleted everything under /etc/apt/cache
[00:20] <JUANZITO> HOLA
[00:20] <StPatrick> eduardo, Pidgin
[00:20] <matthew_> nope, php5.load and php5.conf still do not exist, even though libapache2-mod-php5 lists them as intalled files
[00:20] <Shii> is there a hotplug kind of application i can activate so i can use my MP3 player?
[00:20] <sveakex> Soleone: try "sudo apt-get update"
[00:21] <eduardo> StPatrick: that wont let me talk on invisible status
[00:21] <matthew_> could the package me messed up?
[00:21] <Adpad> charles|64: I don't think you can use media keys in compiz - I might be wrong -- you can try manually mapping it if you can find a way on the web -- to find out what it maps to, try assigning the particular button to something else in the keyboard shortcuts we were talking about earlier
[00:21] <Shii> the USB seems to be supplying power but it doesn't talk to ubuntu
[00:21] <StPatrick> eduardo,  It lets me.
[00:21] <tim1> sveakex: I used rhapsody before. It has a really nice ncurses GUI but there seems not to be any development on it.
[00:21] <charles|64> Adpad: kool man thanks
[00:21] <eduardo> matthew_: whats the prob matty
[00:21] <Adpad> charles|64: no prob at all
[00:21] <GIn> eduardo: try emesene
[00:22] <matthew_> i'm trying to get php5 on my apache2 server, but I can't get the php5.load and php5.conf files
[00:22] <Adpad> I have a problem with my video playback with NVIDIA - nvidia-glx-new drivers - the video just conks in and becomes garbled --can anyone help?
[00:22] <sveakex> tim1: hehe, i like weechat and irssi
[00:22] <matthew_> they are part of libapache2-mod-php5
[00:22] <eduardo> GIn: thx
[00:22] <matthew_> and it says it has them installed
[00:22] <matthew_> but they aren't there.
[00:22] <GIn> eduardo: u can get it at http://www.getdeb.net/
[00:22] <eduardo> matthew_: reboot after installing and see what happens
[00:22] <tim1> matthew_: I prefer LightTPD, it's easier to set up and much faster. YouTube is also using a modified version of it.
[00:23] <GIn> eduardo: don't think it is in the repo, but check the repo first, if not , go to http://www.getdeb.net/
[00:23] <tim1> matthew_: You don't need to restart.
[00:23] <Dr_willis> Adpad,  i belive theres a bit of a bug with the nvidia drivers and video playvback that can cause that issue I had similer issue on one of my machines. It would play vidoes fine for a while.  even days.. then it would get all blocky/garbled but sound still worked.
[00:23] <tim1> matthew_: You need to restart the apache server: /etc/init.d/apache restart I think.
[00:23] <Soleone> sveakex: yea. i made a typo i deleted another directory: E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[00:23] <matthew_> timl: Can it support php5?
[00:23] <Dr_willis> Adpad,  Im using Hardy Now - it has newer nvidia drivers. Not seen the issue under it.
[00:24] <Shii> how do i mount my mp3 player? :/
[00:24] <Kenshi_> Well anyone knows if Hardy solves that firefox slowdown problem that happens when compiz is enabled with ATI cards?
[00:24] <Soleone> sveakex: i accidently deleted everything in /var/cache/apt
[00:24] <tim1> Shii: With mount.
[00:24] <Adpad> Dr_willis: that's exactly what happens to me -- excellent - so I can expect hardy to probably fix the issue?
[00:24] <tim1> matthew_: Yes it does.
[00:24] <Shii> but it's a USB player...
[00:24] <Adpad> Dr_willis: so I'll wait for April 25 ;) Thanks a lot
[00:24] <sveakex> tim1: this is hilarious, i went here so i could check out what fonts the ubuntu terminal uses by default so i can apply it to my gentoo desktop, and now i end up helping about 3 people :P
[00:24] <eduardo> GIn: yeah, its not in the repo
[00:24] <matthew_> Out of the box? or what package?
[00:24] <Kenshi_> The beta does?
[00:24] <Dr_willis> Adpad,  yep. I never did see any real info on the bug. just lots of reports on it.
[00:24] <tim1> matthew_: My LightTPD server is now running for about 3 months without any problems.
[00:24] <Adpad> Dr_willis: same thing here :/
[00:24] <sveakex> Soleone: what happened when you tried to update apt like i told you to?
[00:24] <GIn> eduardo: http://getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=emesene
[00:25] <Soleone> the error i told you
[00:25] <matthew_> timl: Does it support php5 out of the box? Or what package do I need?
[00:25] <tim1> sveakex: Hehe. I know this. :D
[00:25] <Dr_willis> Adpad,  it seems that the nvidia 'universial' drivers dont always work with the same named cards/chips :( Gettng to be a lot of varity in the nvidia cards even witht he same ##
[00:25] <tim1> matthew_: You need to install the php5-cgi package.
[00:25] <matthew_> ok
[00:25] <Soleone> sveakex:  Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[00:25] <matthew_> I'll try that
[00:25] <matthew_> thanks!
[00:26] <sveakex> Soleone: ok, let me have a good think
[00:26] <tim1> matthew_: After having installed it, you need to go to the configuration file and enable the module.
[00:26] <matthew_> ok
[00:26] <rZog> hi, i just have a problem with installing ubuntu.. the installer doesnt detect all my partitions.. it just detects my hd. winxp is abel to detect all partitions correct. does someone has any idea what exactly is broken ?
[00:26] <Shii> i have no idea what command to run to make ubuntu recognize a USB device.
[00:26] <eduardo> does anybody know any tweaks to enhance navigation speed?
[00:26] <Adpad> Dr_willis:  it's a pity :( also had difficulty getting dual monitors to wrok - still haven't managed. I'm hoping hardy will fix these problems!
[00:26] <sveakex> tim1: hehe, i like ubuntu though on computers i don't want to configure :P
[00:27] <tim1> Shii: Yes, MP3 players are nothing else than an external drive.
[00:27] <sveakex> tim1: like laptops, i hate configuring laptops
[00:27] <matthew_> timl: Where is the config file?
[00:27] <Shii> yup. i set it up that way. but i plug it in and nothing happens.
[00:27] <bastid_raZor> eduardo; use command line instead of the GUI to browse.. MUCH faster
[00:27] <Soleone> sveakex: thanks
[00:27] <tim1> sveakex: Me too. :)
[00:28] <kdorf> Shii: type "lsusb" in command line to see if ubuntu detected your device
[00:28] <sveakex> Soleone: alright, i know what to do "sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial && sudo apt-get update"
[00:28] <Shii> thanks
[00:28] <eduardo> bastid_raZor: idk why my navigation slowed down this much im sownloading @ 25kb/s with a 1mbit connection
[00:28] <tim1> matthew_: Ok, type in: sudo lighty-enable-mod fastcgi
[00:28] <kdorf> If it did, that's a good thing 'cause you can mount it manually
[00:28] <sveakex> Soleone: obviously without the ""
[00:28] <Shii> oh... it only sees 3 USB drives. how sad :(
[00:28] <Dr_willis> Adpad,  multi monitor - ive had no issues with. I enable twniview with the nvidia config tools. and away it goes
[00:28] <tim1> matthew_: And then go to /etc/lighttpd/conf-available/10-fastcgi.conf
[00:28] <Soleone> sveakex: thx, i'll try
[00:28] <kdorf> Is one port bad possibly?
[00:28] <sveakex> tim1: hehe, what do you use on your desktop?
[00:28] <srodden> Anyone know why I get a kernel panic in the VM when trying to install a Gutsy VM?
[00:28] <bastid_raZor> eduardo; oh.. navigation.. i didn't relate navigation with browsing the internet..
[00:29] <tim1> sveakex: You mean, which window manager I'm using?
[00:29] <tim1> sveakex: I'm using wmii.
[00:29] <Adpad> Dr_willis: which nvidia config tools - how do you access them? ;)
[00:29] <eduardo> bastid_raZor: my bad
[00:29] <sveakex> tim1: which os
[00:29] <tim1> sveakex: Ubuntu Hardy Heron. :)
[00:29] <sveakex> tim1: hehe, which version number is that? :p
[00:29] <tim1> sveakex: 8.10 I think :D
[00:30] <bastid_raZor> eduardo; using limewire though.. you've probably had your ip tracked and are now being throttled by your ISP
[00:30] <matthew_> timl: Then do I just force reload on the server?
[00:30] <Soleone> sveakex: woohoo, thanks a lot (though i could've just tried myself making the dir :)
[00:30] <sveakex> tim1: 8.10!? 8.10 will be realesed in 2008 october
[00:30] <tim1> matthew_: In /etc/init.d there's a file called lighttpd.
[00:30] <sveakex> Soleone: you're welcome :)
[00:30] <Shii> thanks for your help timl, looks like only 2 of my 4 USB ports work :)
[00:30] <eduardo> bastid_raZor: anyway to fix that?
[00:30] <Soleone> sveakex: looking deeper into Krusader, i must say, this is definitely the best file manager i could think of
[00:30] <tim1> sveakex: Really? How can I check the version number?
[00:31] <sveakex> tim1: try doing a "uname -a"
[00:31] <Kenshi_> Hardy's restricted drivers for ATI cards support AIGLX?
[00:31] <tim1> sveakex: It's still beta but it will be relased in one month or something.
[00:31] <Kenshi_> Or i have to install the official ATI?
[00:31] <sveakex> Soleone: hehe, i am satisfied with nautilus or just using a terminal :P
[00:31] <J-Unit> wen will hardy be available thru shipit?
[00:31] <tim1> sveakex: This will show up the kernel version.
[00:31] <KrimZon> what package should contain libGL.a in hardy?
[00:31] <matthew_> timl: Ok, I have it open
[00:31] <sveakex> tim1: hm, 8.04 well be released in 12 days (about)
[00:32] <icesword> hardy heron .goes out
[00:32] <bastid_raZor> eduardo; call your ISP.. but i don't that is the case.. i'm justing being cynical. not sure why your connection would slow.. possibly your upload is maxed out?
[00:32] <Soleone> sveakex: i already have midnight commander installed on my server, that's cool. thanks for the pointing to it
[00:32] <tim1> J-Unit: Good question. I hope it will be available soon. The last time I ordered some CDs it took me about one month.
[00:32] <tim1> sveakex: Yeah, that's what I've installed here. :)
[00:32] <sveakex> Soleone: you're welcome, is it an ubuntu server?
[00:33] <srodden> Where can I get a copy of a vanilla 7.10 /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default please?
[00:33] <sveakex> tim1: the version numbers work this: 8(year).04(month)
[00:33] <Soleone> sveakex: no just debian 4 i think
[00:33] <scottyL> I'm following an installation guide for 7.10 Server, and I just finished installing the basic LAMP package
[00:33] <sveakex> tim1: therefore 8.04 will be released in april 2008
[00:33] <tim1> matthew_: I forgot to say that you need to edit the file /etc/lighttpd/conf-available/10-fastcgi.conf in which /usr/bin/php5-cgi must be replaced by /usr/bin/php5-cgi.
[00:33] <Soleone> sveakex: how can i print the version of the OS?
[00:34] <scottyL> It's telling me to set up a static IP
[00:34] <tim1> sveakex: Sorry, I didn't know that.
[00:34] <scottyL> Is that important?
[00:34] <sveakex> tim1: i know you didn't, that is why i told you :)
[00:34] <DarkJustice> Can anyone tell me where I can find a tutorial or something to get my AC'97 card to use 5.1 channel sound on ubuntu?
[00:34] <phil_> when i put a cd into my drive..nothing happens, also all programs say that they cannot find a cdrom drive, what do i do to fix this?
[00:34] <tim1> sveakex:  :)
[00:34] <sveakex> Soleone: uname -a might, otherwise i wouldn't know
[00:34] <IndyGunFreak> DarkJustice: whats the exact device?
[00:34] <rZog> hi, i just have a problem with installing ubuntu.. the installer doesnt detect all my partitions.. it just detects my hd. winxp is abel to detect all partitions correct. does someone has any idea what exactly is broken ?
[00:34] <danand_> Soleone - lsb_release -a
[00:34] <Soleone> sveakex: Linux vs1814 2.6.22.9 #2 SMP Tue Oct 23 22:39:08 CEST 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:35] <DarkJustice> IndyGunFreak: at the moment I'm not sure, my son is watching a movie on that box.. is there a way I can ssh in and find out in a terminal?
[00:35] <tim1> rZog: I had a similar problem. You can recover it using TestDisk.
[00:35] <IndyGunFreak> DarkJustice: i have no idea... how is he watching a movie w/o sound?
[00:35] <Soleone> danand_: vs1814:/home/soleone# lsb_release -a
[00:35] <Soleone> bash: lsb_release: command not found
[00:35] <GIn> Soleone: cat /etc/lsb-release
[00:35] <bastid_raZor> !version
[00:35] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[00:35] <Soleone> ah thx
[00:35] <J-Unit> tim1, well i get them faster actually :)
[00:35] <DarkJustice> IndyGunFreak: i have sound but only on two speakers, and i'ts real low, they worked great on winbloze
[00:35] <tim1> J-Unit: Where do you live?
[00:35] <IndyGunFreak> DarkJustice: hmm, no clue...
[00:35] <sveakex> Soleone: ubotu just said it!
[00:35] <J-Unit> tim1, canada
[00:35] <IndyGunFreak> !sound | DarkJustice  maybe this will help
[00:35] <ubotu> DarkJustice  maybe this will help: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:36] <DarkJustice> thanks
[00:36] <xlriut> Does anyone know what might be controlling the fonts within <pre></pre> tags on websites? I've been changing some font settings and the font between <pre></pre> tags now looks messed up. Thanks.
[00:36] <Soleone> sveakex: i don't have Ubuntu on my server, just debian
[00:36] <tim1> J-Unit: They are shipped from the Netherlands as far I know. I'm living in Germany so it shouldn't take longer than 5 days.
[00:36] <KrimZon> aha, nvidia-glx-new-dev for me
[00:36] <Adpad> Dr_willis: do you mean the standard video options in Ubuntu or is there a special NVIDIA package for config?
[00:36] <Soleone> GIn: /etc/lsb_release is not there
[00:36] <capiCrimm> xlriut, css? that's the only thing
[00:36] <sveakex> Soleone: aha, go to #debian , i actualled asked that once there, there is a specific command for that
[00:37] <roxazer> sveakex: hello
[00:37] <roxazer> :)
[00:37] <sveakex> roxazer: who are you?! :O
[00:37] <sveakex> xD
[00:37] <GIn> Soleone: then lsb_release -a
[00:37] <sveakex> roxazer: what's up?
[00:37] <roxazer> sveakex: im a pedofile!
[00:37] <Gnine> !html
[00:37] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[00:37] <tim1> xlriut: You can also use the font tag but I recommend CSS.
[00:37] <roxazer> sveakex: im haxxing my ubuntu
[00:37] <Soleone> GIn: command not found
[00:37] <sveakex> roxazer: zomg, don't get me kicked
[00:37] <J-Unit> tim1, well its 2 weeks for me unless im f***ed in the head or sumtin
[00:37] <GIn> Soleone: erm, that command should be there
[00:37] <roxazer> sveakex: ubuntu is the loviest distro i ever used
[00:38] <roxazer> much better than shitgentoo :o
[00:38] <Soleone> GIn: remember I'm just on debian, not ubuntu
[00:38] <Dr_willis> Adpad,  nvidia has had its own command line based config tool for ages.. Just no one ever notices it. :)
[00:38] <sveakex> roxazer: i know you use archlinux, lägg ner nu, det är inte kul :/
[00:38] <danand_> Soleone - sudo apt-get -s install lsb-release
[00:38] <xlriut> capiCrimm, tim1, no the problem is caused by some system font setting, I believe, oddly enough. I'm not sure what I messed up though. Even website fonts are different.
[00:38] <GIn> Soleone: this is #ubuntu, :\ ask in #debian ;)
[00:38] <Gnine> !language
[00:38] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:38] <Adpad> Dr_willis: ah! hehe, can you tell me how to access it? is it nvidia-config ?
[00:38] <tim1> J-Unit: Lucky you.
[00:38] <xlriut> I know this because I have another computer where the website fonts look completely different.
[00:38] <roxazer> sveakex: its fucking awsome fun :)
[00:39] <sveakex> roxazer: :(
[00:39] <roxazer> sveakex: and here we talk english!
[00:39] <sveakex> roxazer: your english is much better than last time
[00:39] <tim1> xlriut: Perhaps the website is using a windows font which isn't installed.
[00:39] <Dr_willis> Adpad,  nvidia<tab>  use the -A option to see the full options. Litterally the thing has been around since dapper-drake at least. :) I first discovered it mentioned in the ubuntu-hacks book
[00:39] <roxazer> sveakex: yee, im cleared up in the head atm
[00:39] <capiCrimm> xlriut, I'm not even sure that's possible. Unless pre tags request a certain class of text by default that you changed. In which case you're answer will be the css defaults
[00:39] <sveakex> Soleone: #debian knows about debian things :P
[00:39] <eduardo> roxazer: where u from?
[00:40] <Adpad> Dr_willis:  hehe awesome, thanks a lot hey
[00:40] <capiCrimm> *or that are different
[00:40] <roxazer> eduardo: sweden
[00:40] <sveakex> roxazer: eh?
[00:40] <matthew_> tim1: I edited the /etc/lighttpd/conf-available file
[00:40] <mc-george> guys, whats a good dvd encoding program similar to converxtodvd?
[00:40] <roxazer> sveakex: what?
[00:40] <sveakex> roxazer: nvm.
[00:40] <matthew_> tim1: Now what do I do?
[00:40] <Soleone> sveakex: thx, i'm asking
[00:40] <roxazer> okey
[00:40] <tim1> matthew_: Ok, then restart or reload the server.
[00:40] <J-Unit> tim1, well im patient no matter how long it takes...i was more concerned of wen i can order it to get it off my head, as soon as i no that canonical will ship it, i dont worry bout it any longer but i need to at least no that ive requested it if u no wat i mean...i guess its a psychological thing
[00:40] <eduardo> roxazer: lol i have a swedish girl staying in my house for school exchange
[00:40] <xlriut> capiCrimm, well I'm asking because the font looked clearly different before I fiddled with some GTK themes / fluxbox font settings...
[00:40] <sveakex> eduardo: you better do her ;)
[00:41] <tim1> matthew_: The files are stored in /var/www/.
[00:41] <matthew_> tim1: I have the apache2 server running, you have any idea how to stop it?
[00:41] <Soleone> sveakex: cat /etc/debian_version
[00:41] <Soleone> :)
[00:41] <Adpad> Dr_willis:  nvidia-settings brings up NVIDIA X server settings, gonna try work in there
[00:41] <roxazer> eduardo: nice, have you banged her yet? :O
[00:41] <eduardo> sveakex: shes done. lol
[00:41] <sveakex> eduardo: oh! ;)
[00:41] <Adpad> lol roxazer
[00:41] <bastid_raZor> matthew_; sudo killall apache2
[00:41] <tim1> J-Unit: Hehe.
[00:41] <Gnine> !ohmy
[00:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:41] <eduardo> roxazer: luckily yes..
[00:41] <Soleone> :)
[00:41] <roxazer> eduardo: yeah!
[00:42] <Soleone> men
[00:42] <roxazer> *doing the happy dance*
[00:42] <tim1> bastid_raZor: Isn't it sudo killall -9 apache2?
[00:42] <sveakex> Soleone: yup, that's correct :)
[00:42] <kdorf> so I've got a question - anyone successfully managed to burn a DVD+R DL?
[00:42] <eduardo> sveakex: i met a girl from norway on spring break and did her too :))
[00:42] <Dr_willis> Adpad,  thers 2 nvidia tools, one is command line based, other is X based.  I tend to set things up with the cli tool first, then restart X, then tweak with the Other one. I think the command WITH the X is command line .. :) one with no X in the name is the X tool.. figure that out
[00:42] <sveakex> Soleone: however i don't use deabian, i use gentoo
[00:42] <kdorf> I can't get them to burn in the nautilus plugin or brasero
[00:42] <sveakex> eduardo: haha ;D
[00:42] <eduardo> sveakex: not to be a showoff but... heh :P
[00:42] <matthew_> tim1: Sweet!!! Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you!
[00:42] <bastid_raZor> tim1; no, -9 would be used to specify now when killing by the PID.. killall will do it fine.
[00:42] <sveakex> eduardo: "BUT!"
[00:42] <Gnine> !burn | kdorf
[00:42] <ubotu> kdorf: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[00:43] <J-Unit> tim1, u use dial-up?
[00:43] <Adpad> Dr_willis: thanks, the one without an X is the X tool :) appreciate it - will try setup my 42" PLASMA now :D
[00:43] <kdorf> Gnine: that didn't answer my question :(
[00:43] <Soleone> sveakex: is there a good reason for that?
[00:43] <IndyGunFreak> kdorf: well what is your question
[00:43] <matthew_> w00t, now my WoW server manager is working!
[00:43] <matthew_> thanks guys!
[00:43] <kdorf> Has anybody successfully burned DVD+R DL
[00:43] <Adpad> I love compiz !:D
[00:44] <Soleone> compiz rocks, over
[00:44] <roxazer> eduardo is going to do one girl in every country!
[00:44] <IndyGunFreak> i've burned lots of DVDRs, but i've had nothing but problems w/ Brasero, so I use gnomebaker
[00:44] <Adpad> it ROCKS EGGZ :D
[00:44] <sveakex> Soleone: why i use gentoo?
[00:44] <eduardo> roxazer: i hope so :)
[00:44] <kdorf> I can burn every other media, but when I insert a double layer it just doesn't do anything but error out
[00:44] <Soleone> sveakex: yea
[00:44] <Gnine> !best
[00:44] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[00:45] <kdorf> IndyGunFreak: I'll try gnomebaker, but brasero and nautilus have burned DVD-Rs just fine for me, just not the double layer ones.
[00:45] <DIL> hey all i must declare linux is a bad mada socker!!
[00:45] <Daviey> DIL: sounds kinda #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:46] <sveakex> Soleone: up to date packages, all packages are optimized for your computer (source based optimization), pretty stable, fun (imo :P), and it is difficult (since i have recently migrated to gentoo from archlinux)
[00:46] <DIL> Jump fer jou Daviey
[00:46] <sveakex> Soleone: however on laptops i like ubuntu
[00:47] <sveakex> Soleone: and gentoo on server
[00:47] <sveakex> Soleone: and arch or gentoo on desktop
[00:47] <Soleone> sveakex: is gentoo similar to debian? i am kinda new to linux
[00:47] <xvc> how do i exit the current screen session?
[00:47] <sveakex> Soleone: nah, gentoo is not that similar to debian
[00:47] <Daviey> xvc: ctrl + d
[00:48] <sveakex> Soleone: if you are new then i reccomend ubuntu or maybe archlinux :)
[00:48] <Gnine> !debian
[00:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[00:48] <xvc> Daviey: it doesn't do it
[00:48] <windio00> if i install 8.04 will it upgrade ok to stable?  im going on a trip and want to get it done before i go :p
[00:48] <tim1> matthew_: No problem.
[00:48] <xvc> i entered with screen -x 3535
[00:48] <Daviey> xvc: to 'detach' ctrl+a then d
[00:48] <sveakex> is Gnine a user or a bot?
[00:48] <tim1> bastid_raZor: Ok, thanks.
[00:48] <tim1> J-Unit: No, I have a ADSL connection. It's called DSL 16 000 here.
[00:49] <danbhfive> windio00: it will upgrade, provided no problems arise
[00:49] <sveakex> Soleone: gentoo also can takes a VERY long time to install, and installing packages takes long, since it has to compile everything
[00:49] <Falling-Inferno> Have a backup Cd ready and backup your stuff on another computer or something.
[00:49] <yippy> i've upgraded from ubuntu 7.04 (with beryl) to 7.10 and i want to reset my xorg to work properly with compiz or whatever is being used today, how to do that ?
[00:49] <sveakex> roxazer: did you fix your compiz fusion effects in your ubuntu?
[00:49] <Dr_Link|lolwut> So I have a NVidia graphics card. How do I take an S-Video cable, plug one end into a TV set, and plug the other end into the computer, and stream whatever is on the computer screen to the TV?
[00:49] <sveakex> roxazer: since i know you love eyecandy
[00:49] <tim1> sveakex: Yeah, that's why I'm using Ubuntu.
[00:49] <Dr_Link> eh
[00:49] <Dr_Link> yeah
[00:50] <sveakex> tim1: what why? :s
[00:50] <windio00> what are the minimum requirements for 8.04?  its an old computer
[00:50] <sveakex> windio00: go for xubuntu :)
[00:50] <Xupiter> does anyone have any suggestions on how to get an icon for a package to appear in the gnome menu and the desktop?
[00:50] <sveakex> windio00: 256mb ram i think
[00:50] <windio00> sveakex, thats what it has . . .
[00:51] <Dr_willis> Dr_Link,  enable twinview, and have it clone the displays is one way. with SOME nvidia cards/systems I got. YOu can power off. hook up the TV, unplug the monitor, and it will default to the tv.  no tweaking needed
[00:51] <sveakex> windio00: it might just work ;)
[00:51] <Dr_willis> !tvout | Dr_Link
[00:51] <ubotu> Dr_Link: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[00:51] <Daviey> windio00: if it's an old computer.. try using the alternate cd rather than the livecd - and just see how well it runs.. alternatively run xubuntu which is designed for older lower spec machines
[00:51] <Jaffarkelshac> can archive manager unrar .rar files in parts?
[00:51] <tim1> sveakex: Because it compiles everything.
[00:51] <sveakex> windio00: otherwise you might have to use the minicd and install ubuntu using the packages you want to (for example fluxbox instead of any other window manager)
[00:51] <Soleone> sveakex: i see thanks. why would you recommened archlinux? how is it comparable to debian or ubuntu?
[00:51] <Dr_willis> Jaffarkelshac,  i know that 'unrar e whatever.rar' can :) no idea about that other tool.
[00:52] <Intangir> the wine package i got for ubuntu doesnt seem to support jack audio
[00:52] <Adpad> Dr_willis: do you know how I can write a little command line script that accesses a text message website and sends a message?
[00:52] <Intangir> does anyone know why?
[00:52] <Jaffarkelshac> the file is multiple parts, its not finished downloading so i cant tell
[00:52] <tim1> sveakex: I used the alternate CD and installed the rest manually.
[00:53] <Dr_willis> Adpad,  proberly perl, or ruby  can do it. but ive never done so.
[00:53] <Adpad> ty :)
[00:53] <TelnetManta> can anyone tell me the command to view the last ### of commands entered into a terminal?
[00:53] <Jaffarkelshac> history
[00:53] <kdorf> Oh yay, Gnomebaker at least started writing my DL DVD, now to see if it actually successfully finishes! :)
[00:53] <TelnetManta> is there a file?
[00:53] <Dr_willis> TelnetManta,  to view the History.. use history. :)
[00:53] <Chardros> Intangir, did you install jackd?
[00:53] <bastid_raZor> tim1; you got killall to work right?
[00:53] <sveakex> Soleone: it is lightweight, simple (this doesn't mean easy), very update to date packages, which could make it a tad unstable sometimes, and it is optimized for x86 processors. it also doesn't install a lot of programs by default, so you will have to install gnome for instance by yourself. but it is only what i like :)
[00:53] <TelnetManta> lol
[00:53] <Dr_willis> TelnetManta,  and they are stored in .bash_history I think
[00:54] <TelnetManta> thanks, too simple
[00:54] <Intangir> Chardros: ya i installed it and played around with streaming stuff thru it, its fully setup and works
[00:54] <Intangir> alsa can use it sorta.. (not very conveniently)
[00:54] <Intangir> but wine cant seem to use it
[00:54] <Tailsfan> Hello
[00:54] <sveakex> tim1: so you use ubuntu to avoid compiling everything?
[00:54] <Intangir> wine wont use my jackinputs directly thru jack, and cant seem to use them thru alsa either
[00:54] <Soleone> sveakex: that sounds good. thanks!
[00:55] <Soleone> sveakex: will try that some time i guess. simple is always good
[00:55] <Tailsfan> This one step on some instructions I'm foloowing requires me to compile the kernel, what do you mean by this: http://pastebin.ca/981703
[00:55] <tim1> bastid_raZor: I'm always doing killall -9 <processname>. A friend told me once because I called ps aux and looked for the PID which I killed with "kill". :D
[00:55] <windio00> sveakex, should i install the beta or is there a daily update of xubuntu?
[00:55] <tim1> sveakex: Yep.
[00:55] <sveakex> windio00: hm, wait until 8.04 is realesed, which is in a week or 2.
[00:55] <tim1> sveakex: I hate compiling. That's why I like interpreting languages like PHP. :D
[00:55] <Soleone> timl: you know ruby?
[00:55] <sveakex> tim1: hehe, archlinux doesn't need to compile a lot
[00:56] <Tailsfan> Anyone?
[00:56] <tim1> Soleone: I do but I don't like its syntax.
[00:56] <windio00> sveakex, yeah im going on 3 week trip and wanted to get it installed before i go
[00:56] <Soleone> timl: WHAT THE F***?
[00:56] <Soleone> timl: best syntax i know
[00:56] <_Silhouette_> hello I have a problem...I'm installing ubuntu with the alternate install disk and it says it's formatting the partition on my external harddrive, but it has been at 33% for like 10 minutes....what is wrong?
[00:56] <tim1> Soleone: PHP looks much cleaner.
[00:56] <Soleone> timl: whaaat?
[00:56] <sveakex> Soleone: lol you exploded :P
[00:56] <tim1> Soleone: Ruby is ugly. :D
[00:56] <Soleone> timl: sorry to say this, but you're crazy :)
[00:56] <Tailsfan> It's a "External" Drive, as in it'll be slower and how big is it?
[00:57] <sveakex> i don't code at all, *gets a flame shield*
[00:57] <Daviey> _Silhouette_: try giving it a bit longer if you are resizing a partition to make space
[00:57] <GravityParade> Im not crazy
[00:57] <GravityParade> Neither am I
[00:57] <bastid_raZor> tim1; true,, reason i gave killall was apache has several things running at once.. so ps aux | grep apache2 would have come back with about 4 apache2's to kill.. killall would have taken them out.. -9 isn't necessary but can't hurt
[00:57] <sveakex> windio00: ah, is it a laptop?
[00:57] <Daviey> bastid_raZor: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop <-- safer
[00:58] <tim1> Soleone: But Python looks uglier. In my eyes it's quite restrictive to use a tab as a control structure (something like { ... } in PHP).
[00:58] <sveakex> windio00: how big is the hdd?
[00:58] <windio00> sveakex, nah its for a family that needs something that works while im gone
[00:58] <harrisony> Hi does anyone know a way of making my usb flash drive isofs (I know it sounds crazy but I need to do it to get the alternate installer working on my computer)
[00:58] <Tailsfan> I'm a real dummy when compling the kernel, it's for a *cough* hack *cough*
[00:58] <bastid_raZor> Daviey; true. an even better idea tim1..
[00:58] <windio00> sveakex, i dont think more than 10 or 20 gb
[00:58] <tim1> bastid_raZor: Ok.
[00:59] <Soleone> timl: you sure must take a second look at ruby, believe me. it's worth it. no sane man can whole-heartedly say that php is more expressive (and cleaner) than ruby :)
[00:59] <tim1> bastid_raZor: Which idea?
[00:59] <sveakex> windio00: you can have partition mounted at / which is 6-10gb large, and the rest on /home. and then install 7.10 and then 8.04 when you come back, and not touching the /home partition
[01:00] <sveakex> Soleone: is ruby for webbdevelopment?
[01:00] <DarkJustice> IndyGunFreak: not sure if this might help anyone else but I found this site for 5.1 channel in linux..... http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~bondhugu/alsamch.shtml
[01:00] <ryanzec> Solene: oh, please tell me why ruby is so much better than php, i would love to hear it :)
[01:00] <Soleone> sveakex: not only for web dev, but very good for it yes
[01:00] <tim1> Soleone: I have already looked at ruby. There are some cool classes which don't exist in PHP but I think PHP is superior since nearly everything is written in purely C/C++ so it's much faster.
[01:00] <danbhfive> sveakex: ruby is a language comparable to python
[01:00] <Intangir> anyone here running wine? run winecfg and tell me if you see 'jack' as an available audio option
[01:00] <sveakex> danbhfive: aha, ok, i see
[01:00] <Daviey> Soleone: & tim1, fancy taking it to pm or #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[01:01] <Soleone> ryanzec: everything is an object. which allows cool syntax (domain specific language)
[01:01] <tim1> sveakex: There's Ruby on Rails which can be used for webdevelopment.
[01:01] <sveakex> tim1: ok
[01:01] <Soleone> timl: most classes in ruby at the backend are also in C
[01:01] <Soleone> Daviey: sorry
[01:01] <tim1> Daviey: Sorry, I can't pm since I haven't registered an account here.
[01:01] <tim1> Soleone: Do you have Jabber?
[01:02] <Soleone> no
[01:02] <yippy> what are the current offical ubutnu 7.10 versions of compiz and emerald ?
[01:02] <herby_> @timl: what cool classes did you find?
[01:02] <tim1> Soleone: And ICQ?
[01:02] <Soleone> timl: come to #ruby :)
[01:02] <sveakex> tim1 Soleone: give me your msn if you want to fancy a talk some other time :)
[01:02] <windio00> sveakex, is 8.04 raelly that unstable right now 2 weeks before?
[01:02] <Soleone> timl: come to the light side
[01:02] <Pici> !hardy
[01:02] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:02] <sveakex> windio00: you can also install that an reinstall
[01:02] <tim1> herby_: The log class.
[01:02] <Soleone> sveakex and timl: ICQ: 326-800-916
[01:02] <Daviey> windio00: it's classed as unstable until release.. feel free to try it on a testing machine - just don't rely upon it
[01:03] <tim1> Soleone: Thanks.
[01:03] <sveakex> Soleone: aiight, i need make an icq account first :P
[01:03] <sveakex> tim1: hbu?
[01:03] <Soleone> sveakex: msn and icq are compatible
[01:03] <windio00> sveakex, if i install 8.04 beta there is at least a chance that it would switch over ok to 8.04 stable right?
[01:03] <sveakex> Soleone: they are?
[01:03] <Daviey> windio00: yes
[01:03] <tim1> sveakex: hbu?
[01:03] <Soleone> yea found that out lately
[01:03] <shingalated> ﻿does anyone know if you can run multiple sites with separate domain names on the same apache server?
[01:03] <kakoonia> Hi, i installed a philips 22" lcd, 1) refresh rate is low 60hz, 2) its attached to a laptop, and im trying to figure out, how to work with these two screens together, like how to config the view, i want it each screen to be another desktop.. howdy how?
[01:03] <sveakex> tim1: how about you
[01:03] <tim1> Soleone: Really? I thought AIM and ICQ were compatible.
[01:04] <Daviey> shingalated: yes, you can easily - use virtual hosts
[01:04] <tim1> sveakex: What does hbu stand for.
[01:04] <tim1> ah
[01:04] <sveakex> tim1: just told you :)
[01:04] <Soleone> timl: ? they are comtabible..
[01:04] <ryanzec> Solene: if everything is a object that that is pretty weak.  Sure php array and string function are a pain in the ass but that alone is not really worth switching.  sveakex i would take a look at ruby and php and deside what you like best if you are look for web development.  they both can do pretty much the same and just in a different way.
[01:04] <windio00> what would ubuntu offer over debian?
[01:04] <tim1> Soleone: ok
[01:04] <Daviey> Soleone & tim1, you are keeping this off topic chat going somewhat...
[01:04] <LjL> !offtopic | windio00
[01:04] <sveakex> Soleone: apparently it isn't comptatible with emesene
[01:04] <ubotu> windio00: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:04] <Gnine> !linux
[01:04] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[01:05] <Soleone> ryanzec: how is that weak? it allows huge syntax constructs
[01:05] <yippy> what are the current offical ubutnu 7.10 versions of compiz and emerald ?
[01:05] <windio00> ok
[01:05] <LjL> !debian > windio00    (windio00, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:05] <shingalated> daviey: do I have to configure that an the router or is it all on the server?
[01:05] <LjL> !info compiz | yippy
[01:05] <ubotu> yippy: compiz (source: compiz): OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1.1 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 64 kB
[01:05] <Soleone> sveakex & timl: join #ruby if  you want to talk without so much disctraction
[01:05] <Daviey> shingalated: all on the server.
[01:05] <yippy> thanks
[01:05] <nebeda> tu-ru
[01:06] <yippy> !info emerald
[01:06] <ubotu> emerald (source: emerald): Decorator for compiz-fusion. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3~git20070717-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 198 kB, installed size 956 kB
[01:06] <FelipeMorales> boa noite amigos!
[01:06] <windio00> can i ask questions about xubuntu here too or only ubuntu?
[01:06] <ryanzec> soleone: well personally the syntax on ruby if very akword for me as i come from a heavy C++ background, it is just not worth it to learn ruby.
[01:06] <Soleone> ryanzec: i also invite you to #ruby to elaborate on ruby
[01:06] <Daviey> windio00: /j #xubuntu
[01:08] <herby_> i got a strange little problem: with the live cd the brightnes control of the display was working. now with the installed version of 7.10 it does not work.
[01:08] <yippy> when i open a new account, my X windows theme is kinda redish, and doesn't look like the ubuntu one, and i can't change it to the ubuntu one, any idea ?
[01:08] <Tasteless> Is there a way to limit pure-ftp bandwidth to a per month limit?
[01:09] <mastro> do you confirm that fglrx driver version shipped with gutsy can't work with compiz?
[01:09] <sveakex> tim1: icq? msn? if you want to talk?
[01:09] <Daviey> mastro: it can.. just need to use XGL :(
[01:10] <sveakex> Soleone: btw i added you i think
[01:10] <mastro> Daviey, yeah.. i mean.. with AIGLX
[01:10] <werer> sd
[01:10] <Daviey> mastro: You will have better success if you can hold off until Hardy is stable
[01:10] <werer> :q
[01:10] <mastro> i'm going to follow this http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/10/23/fglrx-8423---finally-with-AIGLX-support with the new ati drivers
[01:10] <werer> /LIST
[01:10] <mastro> Daviey, ^^
[01:10] <GravityParade> how long in real life time mastro?
[01:11] <yippy> when i open a new account, my X windows theme is kinda redish, and doesn't look like the ubuntu one, and i can't change it to the ubuntu one, any idea ?
[01:11] <mastro> GravityParade, it's not for me..
[01:11] <mastro> GravityParade, actually i've Debian with an nvidia and i DON'T use Compiz at all
[01:11] <Daviey> mastro: sure.. but obv. the normal recommendations of using unpackaged software applies
[01:12] <sveakex> mastro: compiz is terrible :P
[01:12] <sveakex> mastro: it's fun though to use it to impress mac addicts
[01:12] <Gnine> !preference
[01:12] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[01:12] <cizzi> Last year I setup a supercomputer with linux on it for the public, if you need a shell for educational purposes you can get one, www.learningshells.com
[01:13] <_Andrew> cizzi, Are you an adbot?
[01:14] <scottyL> Question: I just installed Gutsy Server, and the installation guide I'm following suggests I establish a static IP
[01:14] <eduardo> linux has the best performance, but its also the most difficult to use
[01:14] <Nwallins> Hi, apt and synaptic are telling me that i have 50 packages held back.  how can i find out what the issue is and resolve it?
[01:14] <scottyL> Is that a step I really must do, or what?
[01:14] <sdasd> :q
[01:14] <jking_> scottyL not really
[01:14] <jking_> it will use dhcp
[01:14] <_Andrew> scottyL, What's the guide.. not really
[01:14] <lufis> is there any way via a firefox extension or wget to download files from a web directory recursively?
[01:14] <FastZ> scottyL: doesnt make sense to have a server and make it use a dynamic IP address though
[01:14] <TwinX> Like my granmother says: Linux is User friendly , not idiot friendly :)
[01:15] <scottyL> http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/10/ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-lamp-server.html
[01:15] <Nwallins> lufis: wget will do it
[01:15] <Gnine> !linux | eduardo
[01:15] <ubotu> eduardo: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[01:15] <hou5ton> hey ... if I want to upgrade a laptop to 8.04 ... should I just download the Beta and do a new install, or can one upgrade from 7 just fine?
[01:15] <_Andrew> lufis, yes
[01:15] <lufis> Nwallins: how? :)
[01:15] <usser> hou5ton, upgrade here went without a hitch
[01:15] <phoenixgnome> I have a strange question
[01:15] <eduardo> TwinX: well mac and windows are user friendly
[01:15] <scottyL> FastZ: That's what I was thinking, but really... I'm an incredible newb. I haven't used emacs in 6 years, and I'm not sure which IP to change it to
[01:15] <TwinX> :)
[01:15] <_Andrew> lufis,  wget -m -np --accept=.gz,.txt,.rtf http://url.com
[01:15] <qweqw> hi
[01:15] <Intertricity> what apt-get install name do I used to install the basic GCC dev package for C programming?
[01:16] <Intertricity> and emacs
[01:16] <lufis> _Andrew: many thanks!
[01:16] <Gnine> !upgrade
[01:16] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:16] <FastZ> Intertricity: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[01:16] <usser> Intertricity, build-essential emacs
[01:16] <_Andrew> lufis, replace the extensions with those you want to DL
[01:16] <_Silhouette_> Daviey: it's been 15 minutes and it's still at 33%
[01:16] <FastZ> build-essential*
[01:16] <Intertricity> ahh thanks a lot :)
[01:16] <Gnine> !synaptic | Intertricity
[01:16] <ubotu> Intertricity: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:17] <matthew_> who was it who told me how to setup lightTPD?
[01:17] <eduardo> TwinX: linux should be easy to use, like double-click a package u downloaded and install ir right away
[01:17] <Intertricity> I'm using a console
[01:17] <Intertricity> putty and a server :)
[01:17] <TwinX> eduardo; lol
[01:17] <Nwallins> anyone know how to diagnose "49 packages held back" on hardy beta?
[01:17] <herby_> how can i find out, what apt packages i have on my machine? can i query for one specific package, and see if it is missing on my machine?
[01:17] <phoenixgnome> I am running Ubuntu7.10 and I my audio doesn't work for videos and music on firefox... but it works for rythmbox music player... Can anyone help me???
[01:17] <Gnine> !offtopic | eduardo
[01:17] <ubotu> eduardo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:18] <Daviey> _Silhouette_: fwiw.. I had one that lasted all night.. if you can afford to just leave it a while it might be best - otherwise you will have to reboot.. it should be ok.. but you did backup, right, right? :)
[01:18] <_Andrew> Nwallins, try #ubuntu+1
[01:18] <danbhfive> phoenixgnome: are you using totem embedded into firefox?
[01:18] <eduardo> gnine, im just trying to chat
[01:18] <jking_> phoenixgnome: dpkg-query | grep <package>
[01:18] <_Silhouette_> Daviey: it's a blank external hard drive. But okay, I will leave it run. Thanks.
[01:18] <Gnine> exactly
[01:18] <jking_> phoenixgnome: dpkg-query -l | grep <package>
[01:18] <jking_> sorry
[01:18] <Daviey> Nwallins: hardy discussion in #ubuntu+1,but try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:18] <phoenixgnome> How would I check that?
[01:19] <jking_> do you know the package you think you are missing
[01:19] <Daviey> _Silhouette_: if it's blank - just try again - nothing to lose
[01:19] <Nwallins> Daviey: ah, that looks like it will work.  thought i tried it earlier
[01:19] <_Silhouette_> Daviey: it won't corrupt anything if I just restart?
[01:19] <phoenixgnome> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[01:19] <Daviey> _Silhouette_: not if the external disk is blank - there is nothing to corrupt. :)
[01:19] <jking_> did you use a forward slash
[01:19] <_Silhouette_> okay. thanks.
[01:20] <FastZ> I wanna be like Gnine and just post ubotu tips... :P
[01:20] <Gnine> you can
[01:21] <phoenixgnome> How would I check to see if I am running totem in fire fox?
[01:21] <_Andrew> More like abusing the bot
[01:21] <jking_> phoenix: in the address bar type about:plugins
[01:21] <Gnine> !botsnack
[01:21] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[01:21] <herby_> what are these bots for?
[01:21] <jking_> annoyance
[01:22] <herby_> i see
[01:22] <Starnestommy> herby_: mainly for storing and retrieving information
[01:22] <_Andrew> for being lazy and not answering questions
[01:22] <Daviey> Gnine: Any reason you keep asking ubotu for factoids?
[01:22] <danbhfive> phoenixgnome: try right clicking the movie, and clicking open with movie player
[01:22] <Gnine> if the shoe fits .. you have wear it too Daviey
[01:23] <Daviey> Gnine: keep going, and you won't be in here much longer :( .. you can pm ubotu
[01:23] <Gnine> Daviey unless you're an op .. keeps your wits about you
[01:23] <tim1> sveakex: Ok, get gTalk. The ICQ transporter often crashes here.
[01:23] <_Andrew> !offtopic Gnine
[01:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopic gnine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:24] <_Andrew> please chat outside Gnine
[01:24] <phoenixgnome> I can't get sound on site like youtube and southpark zone.com
[01:24] <tim1> sveakex: Sorry for the late response but I didn't know how to get back to this window in WeeChat.
[01:25] <FastZ> phoenixgnome: in firefox you can type "about:<something>" in the URL bar and see what all extensions are installed
[01:25] <FastZ> i cant remember what goes in the <something> part though
[01:25] <sveakex> tim1: i am also in #ruby, i have a gmail account, what do i do to get gtalk? just log into gtalk with my gmail account? :s
[01:25] <jking_> fastz: about:plugins
[01:25] <FastZ> there ya go
[01:25] <tim1> sveakex: Yep.
[01:25] <tim1> sveakex: Tell me your e-mail address.
[01:26] <phoenixgnome> Totem Web Browser Plugin 2.20.0
[01:26] <phoenixgnome> thats what I have installed
[01:26] <netdur> best p2p software?
[01:26] <sveakex> tim1: sure in query
[01:26] <apexcol> Hi, I just wanted to know how can traffic shaping by client be done in ubuntu...
[01:26] <jking_> PG: thats it
[01:27] <phoenixgnome> So ... should I like uninstall it and re-install it?
[01:27] <danbhfive> phoenixgnome: well, youtube doesnt use totem, it uses flash
[01:28] <phoenixgnome> yea...
[01:28] <danbhfive> do you have sound at all?
[01:28] <phoenixgnome> Should I uninstall firefox and reinstall firefox?
[01:28] <jking_> no that is not needed
[01:28] <jking_> just install flash if you haven't already
[01:28] <_Andrew> phoenixgnome, Does sound play at all?
[01:28] <Scunizi> anyone else using audacity and are unable to change the input type.. it seem to default at mic but no other options.
[01:28] <danbhfive> phoenixgnome: try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[01:29] <jking_> Phoenixgnome try this guide to get your config straight.
[01:29] <jking_> http://howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu_gutsy_gibbon
[01:29] <rochester> ne1 familiar with xchat that would care to help me set up particular port for SSL connect?
[01:29] <rodolf0> hi folks!
[01:30] <rodolf0> I'm getting a problem trying to execute apt-get
[01:30] <herby_> does anyone know, how to enable manual brightness control in gnome?
[01:30] <jking_> Phoenix you will want to skip to page 3 or so since you are already installed
[01:30] <Intertricity> anyone know a good console based mp3/music player in the repository? :D
[01:31] <Dr_willis> Intertricity,  i used mpg123 ages ago
[01:31] <Dr_willis> i think xmms2 has some sort of command line interface also
[01:31] <Intertricity> ohh?
[01:31] <Intertricity> I'll be running everything on a headless display
[01:31] <Intertricity> er
[01:31] <Intertricity> headless setup
[01:31] <_Andrew> I think VLC has cmd too?
[01:31] <jking_> mplayer also will work from the cli
[01:31] <Gnine> !vlc
[01:31] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[01:32] <_Andrew> Wow, that didn't really help Gnine
[01:32] <jking_> don't worry gnine we all want to feel helpful
[01:32] <Gnine> _Andrew: if you have a problem with me, your chat software has a useful ignore feature you can use
[01:33] <jking_> lol
[01:33] <matthew_> anyone know where I can get mysql.so? I need it so php can work with mySQL
[01:33] <_Andrew> I don't have a problem, just wished you'd be more helpful
[01:33] <xtknight> matthew_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=mysql.so&mode=exactfilename&suite=gutsy&arch=any
[01:33] <help0r> hi ppl
[01:33] <_Andrew> hi
[01:33] <xtknight> php5-mysql it looks like
[01:33] <help0r> i have very good problem.
[01:33] <help0r> :)
[01:33] <Gnine> and i'd wish you didnt mind about me
[01:33] <Daviey> matthew_: sudo apt-get install php5-mysql
[01:34] <subcool> hey-
[01:34] <help0r> i not have rapidshare account. :)
[01:34] <danbhfive> !lamp | matthew_
[01:34] <ubotu> matthew_: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:34] <_Andrew> Don't cry Gnine
[01:34] <subcool> how do you password protect a archive?
[01:34] <subcool> Every time i create a .rar file, and try to add PW to it, it doesnt work.
[01:34] <_Andrew> help0r, What's the problem?
[01:34] <jking_> man gzip
[01:34] <help0r> i not have rapidshare account. :))
[01:34] <Dr_willis> subcool,  the rar commands for linux have minimal features.
[01:34] <_Andrew> help0r, .... then.. make one?
[01:35] <subcool> command line work- gui doesnt
[01:35] <subcool> command line is a bit.. off- but works
[01:35] <akatsuki> hi can someone recommend me a good movie player cause the movie player that come from default in ubuntu is not able to open one video
[01:35] <akatsuki> i want the best movie player and flexible with all kind of codecs
[01:35] <giskardX> vlc
[01:35] <Daviey> akatsuki: try vlc
[01:35] <akatsuki> ok thx
[01:35] <Dr_willis> I tend to use gmplayer for most of my video playback needs
[01:36] <_Andrew> akatsuki, vlc is pretty good
[01:36] <Dr_willis> vlc is also nice.
[01:36] <jking_> vlc is ok but sometimes it has issues with different mkv containers mplayer seems to handle high def videos better
[01:36] <Dr_willis> there are some very new video codecs out. that are not very well supported yet under ubuntu
[01:36] <Dr_willis> Issue i have with  vlc and mplayer both is i cant get them to default to enabling the subtitles on my mkv videos. :)
[01:36] <matthew_> thanks Daviey!
[01:37] <herby_> at least vlc can handle *some of them :)
[01:37] <Dr_willis> so every anime i start up - i gotta use themenus to set the subtitles on.
[01:37] <jking_> oh i haven't tried subtitles on an mkv
[01:37] <help0r> andrew give me rapid account
[01:37] <_Andrew> help0r, I don't quite understand why you're in here, but I think you're in the wrong place.
[01:37] <Starnestommy> !ot | help0r
[01:37] <herby_> mkv sometimes fails when the source is on a special path. maybe it's a bug, but i did not look at it jet in detail
[01:37] <ubotu> help0r: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:37] <subcool> Ok- thanks guys- imma try gzip and see if it does anybetter
[01:38] <help0r> ok. sory
[01:38] <_Andrew> help0r, Try bugmenot or something
[01:38] <giskardX> is there yet a solution to the choppy flash video problem?
[01:38] <akatsuki> i will let you know guys
[01:38] <akatsuki> if it is able to open it
[01:39] <akatsuki> since it seems the video needs some weird codecs
[01:39] <akatsuki> i dont know..
[01:39] <akatsuki> i will wait and see
[01:39] <_Andrew> akafurious, What's the codec?
[01:40] <blbrown> general question; what is a good resolution for a 20inch lcd monitor.  I currently have it set to 1280x800.  I want to be a little finer resolution.  I am trying 1280x1024
[01:40] <C0p3rn1c> kde vs gnome?
[01:40] <elmer> blbrown, widescreen or regular?
[01:40] <subcool> sob- i cant get subfolders
[01:40] <subcool> this is getting annoying
[01:40] <jking_> much higher
[01:40] <blbrown> elmer: I think it is wide
[01:40] <FreakyFred> Hey everyone, I am having several problems installing 7.10. i am booting from a live CD, and the most immediate problem is that when I reach the menu with the install options, my USB Keyboard doesnt work. I have tried with 2 and neither works
[01:40] <blbrown> elmer: it is wide
[01:40] <jking_> is it 4:3 or 16:10
[01:40] <_Andrew> blbrown, Try setting it to your monitors max res
[01:40] <jking_> 1600:1050
[01:41] <danbhfive> blbrown: I think you want the max resolution on an LCD monitor.  Usually LCDs have an "optimal" resolution, which in my experience is the max
[01:41] <millertime_018> is there anyway to speed up torrent downloads?
[01:41] <elmer> blbrown, ok. I think 1680x1050 is the right resolution for a 20"
[01:41] <blbrown> what about optimal for the human
[01:41] <jking_> i hear an echo
[01:41] <subcool> i hear an echo
[01:41] <_Andrew> blbrown, You can always make the menu bigger
[01:41] <elmer> i hear an echo
[01:41] <akatsuki> Wow I install VLC and try to open the video and this appears: "This AVI file is broken. Seeking will not work correctly. Do you want to try and repair it?"
[01:41] <Pici> Stop.
[01:41] <blbrown> I have an acer AL2016W
[01:41] <jking_> lol
[01:42] <Dr_willis> akatsuki,  i see that often also. Some videos are weird. :)
[01:42] <jking_> choose no for vlc
[01:42] <jking_> on the broken avi file
[01:42] <jking_> are you streaming the avi?
[01:42] <akatsuki> i did but nothing appears
[01:42] <_Andrew> akatsuki, Happens to me when I haven't finished downloading a video
[01:42] <akatsuki> no
[01:42] <elmer> blbrown, "This Acer 20" Silver Widescreen LCD comes with 1600 x 1200 resolution" - Amazon
[01:42] <jking_> yeah or when i stream an avi
[01:43] <akatsuki> it is complete since i was able to see it in windows
[01:43] <akatsuki> is the same
[01:43] <akatsuki> archive
[01:43] <jking_> odd
[01:43] <_Andrew> akatsuki, Did you try mplayer?
[01:43] <danbhfive> akatsuki: whats the website?
[01:43] <akatsuki> yes
[01:43] <akatsuki> adrew
[01:44] <akatsuki> and danbhfive there is no website.. is a personal video that i took
[01:44] <akatsuki> its old
[01:44] <Pelo> evening folks
[01:44] <_Andrew> whats the format?
[01:44]  * Pelo is happy that demonoid is back
[01:44] <jking_> demonoid the tracker?
[01:44] <jking_> is back online?
[01:44] <Pelo> jking_, demonoid the site
[01:44] <Pici> Pelo: Ahem, you know this is offtopic here.
[01:44] <jking_> nice haven't been there in a while
[01:45] <vinnito> this is soooo nerdy!
[01:45] <Pelo> Pici, only a brief one
[01:45] <jking_> i prefer newsgroups now though
[01:45] <vinnito> nerdy nerds
[01:45] <jking_> so much faster
[01:45] <Pelo> vinnito, such as we are
[01:45] <XTeLiS> yah, ive got serious video issues too
[01:45] <b0xxy> VLC?
[01:46] <jking_> b0xxy is late to the conversation
[01:46] <akatsuki> i click yes
[01:46] <Pelo> MrGozInYah, what is your issue ?
[01:46] <akatsuki> nos this appears
[01:46] <akatsuki> Unrecognized format for '/home/akatsuki/Desktop/mivideocool.nc_'
[01:46] <b0xxy> :P jking_
[01:46] <b0xxy> to right u are
[01:46] <jking_> lol
[01:46] <MrGozInYah> vlc and pitivi are the only 2 players i can 'kinda get my videos to play in with THIS account
[01:46] <_Andrew> akatsuki, What did you make the video with?
[01:47] <Pelo> akatsuki, where did you get this video ?
[01:47] <MrGozInYah> on my main account all the other players work fine
[01:47] <n00b_^^> hello !
[01:47] <jking_> andrew i was just going to ask that
[01:47] <_Andrew> hi
[01:47] <FastZ_> i just got disconnected from the internet while i was connect to #ubuntu, now it still says that my other username is still in use.  Is there an op in here that can kick my other username out of the channel so I can come back in as that username?
[01:47] <akatsuki> with a webcam long time ago
[01:47] <Pelo> FastZ_, just be patient , it will age off in a few minutes
[01:47] <akatsuki> like 3 years ago lol
[01:47] <jking_> then what application
[01:47] <_Andrew> akatsuki, I mean what web cam
[01:47] <MrGozInYah> for some reason the codecs are not installed properly or something for this account, but it says they are installed
[01:47] <FastZ_> Pelo: thanks
[01:47] <jking_> did you use to make the vid
[01:47] <n00b_^^> Hello i wanted to solve a graphic card problem perhaps :P can any one help me !!!
[01:48] <Pelo> akatsuki, it's probably a propriatary format,  google for a converter
[01:48] <Dr_Link> When I tried to make Ubuntu LiveUSB work for me, even after installing LILO onto it to fix the MBR, I get the error "Boot Error" when I try to start it. Any reason why?
[01:48] <MrGozInYah> noob i might be able too
[01:48] <akatsuki> with a labtec webcam
[01:48] <jking_> the software used by that webcam is probably affecting your ability to play it
[01:49] <MrGozInYah> dr link ... see if acronis makes recovery professional for linux
[01:49] <MrGozInYah> its awesome for windows
[01:49] <n00b_^^> ok
[01:50] <fbc> Does the 64 bit version still have problems with flash???
[01:51] <subcool> ok
[01:51] <akatsuki> Here is the info of my video: Type: AVI video  Size: 648.5 MB  MIME type: video/x-msvideo
[01:51] <subcool> i got Archive manager to pw protect the files.. how about the rar itself?
[01:51] <_Andrew> I thought they fixed the problems with 64bit flash but I'm not 100% sure
[01:51] <jking_> this  MIME type: video/x-msvideo
[01:51] <jking_> is the issue
[01:51] <_Andrew> I think you still have to run it as 32 bit though
[01:51] <mads-> amarok sucks
[01:51] <mads-> uber slow
[01:51] <n00b_^^> I have intel 945 GNT Mbd hence Gdriver is Intel 950 ( which i have set correctly in screens n resolution window) now problem is i can't set widescreen resolution modes i have Lcd screen with spec 1440x900 @60 hz 32 bit resolution ..... I m using the right Open source driver :(
[01:52] <mads-> is there a good replacement for xmms out yet?
[01:52] <n00b_^^> though
[01:52] <akatsuki> mads: amarok does not suck
[01:52] <mads-> ok, it doesnt suck
[01:52] <mads-> it's just slow.
[01:52] <Pelo> oh and new flash is out ,  uses a little less cpu then the previous one
[01:52] <ectospasm> mads-:  audacious is supposed to be a drop-in replacement for xmms
[01:52] <linkinxp> ups my system hang up and now i dont have borders in my windows
[01:52] <linkinxp> ?
[01:52] <_Andrew> jking_, Is that a wmv?
[01:52] <jking_> not that i can find google says alot of people cannot play that codec type
[01:52] <Maarek_> how do I check what my localhost name is for mysql?
[01:53] <_Andrew> Maarek_, localhost name?
[01:53] <_Andrew> Maarek_, You mean the address of MySQL?
[01:53] <FastZ_> isnt localhost always just 127.0.0.1 or "localhost"?
[01:53] <Maarek_> _Andrew: that would be correct, the address
[01:53] <n00b_^^> its the same when u intall ubuntu u set it as Comp name
[01:53] <akatsuki> thanks JKING for that info
[01:53] <_Andrew> Maarek_, localhost:8080 i think
[01:54] <_Andrew> 8080 being the port..
[01:54] <Starnestommy> FastZ_: it's also ::1 if you have IPv6
[01:54] <akatsuki> i will 'research' more about it
[01:54] <akatsuki> since i really want to open that video
[01:54] <Maarek_> hmm, for some reason my program isn't connecting to the database
[01:54] <FastZ_> interesting, thanks Starnestommy
[01:54] <n00b_^^> no 8080 is not a valid mysql port :(
[01:54] <slestak> im having a real problem gettin an app that depends on python-setuptools installed.
[01:54] <jking_> akatsuki: sorry i could not be more help
[01:54] <_Andrew> maybe I should check that..
[01:55] <slestak> apt says it cannot configure python-setuptools, but for what I can tell, it should've been installed aready.  its on all my other gutsy machines.
[01:55] <Maarek_> maybe it's my programming, I'll dig deeper
[01:55] <Maarek_> thanks guys
[01:55] <_Andrew> Maarek_, What are you trying to do?
[01:55] <slestak> the specific msg i get is short, its pycentral pkginstall: already exists: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/setuptools.pth
[01:56] <_Andrew> Maarek_, If you're connecting to a remote ubuntu machine you need to edit your config. Otherwise it should work if turned on
[01:56] <n00b_^^> i need help on Gdrivers :S http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=752650 is the post please tell me something atleast :( or is it a bug in ubuntu which cant be solved :((
[01:57] <giskardX> what is the best tool for data recovery in linux/
[01:57] <giskardX>  -/  +?
[01:57] <giskardX> data recovery as in failed hard disks
[01:57] <jking_> data recovery depends on the file system used
[01:58]  * giskardX has tried testdisk
[01:58] <giskardX> it's an utterly gone hard disk
[01:58] <jking_> if the hard disk is physically failed that might pose a problem
[01:58] <giskardX> testdisk doesn't even recognize the partition type
[01:58] <r00723r0> giskardX, wow, what did you do?
[01:59] <giskardX> dunno, it's a crappy disk
[01:59] <jking_> try gparted or g4l and see if you can do a bit for bit copy to another disk
[01:59] <giskardX> i already RMA'ed it once before
[01:59] <jking_> of the same size or larger
[01:59] <jking_> what brand disk
[01:59] <giskardX> western digital
[01:59] <jking_> external?
[01:59] <giskardX> nope, sata internal
[02:00] <akatsuki> hey guys one other question.. i just install fluxbox and it looks awsome i mean very simple but i cant open anything.. how does it works? any good guide?
[02:00] <akatsuki> or any fluxbox user hre?
[02:00] <jking_> fluxbox everything is off the right click context menus
[02:00] <Sam827> Can someone walk me through getting my MacBook setup for Ubuntu? I have it installed and am on it right now but, as you may know, not everything works yet. When I tried to follow the guide on the Ubuntu website, I screwed X11 and had to fix it from the command line. Thanks!
[02:01] <akatsuki> yes i try many times right click on panel
[02:01] <akatsuki> but nothing appears
[02:01] <akatsuki> maybe i need to download more plugins or something
[02:01] <jking_> right click on the desktop itself
[02:01] <_Andrew> Sam827, What is the first problem you are having?
[02:01] <compwiz18> akatsuki: did you right click the desktop?
[02:01] <akatsuki> yes
[02:01] <akatsuki> i did
[02:01] <Pelo> Sam827, what issue are you dealing with atm ?
[02:01] <akatsuki> nothing appears
[02:01] <jking_> ok
[02:02] <Sam827> _Andrew: my mic doesn't work
[02:02] <jking_> i have not used fluxbox in a really long time
[02:02] <jking_> lol
[02:02] <_Andrew> Sam827, What version is this by the way? Hardy or Gutsy?
[02:02] <Sam827> Gutsy
[02:02] <jking_> a great live cd for flux is navyn os....navynos.linux.pl
[02:03] <_Andrew> Sam827, ok, did you look in the audio control panel?
[02:03] <Sam827> where is that?
[02:03] <mark[oz]> anyone know of a good podcast application?
[02:03] <_Andrew> Sam827, System->Preferences->Sound
[02:03] <mark[oz]> one that also does video would be prefered
[02:03] <blbrown> Modes  "1680x1050" for two monitors: I Just changed my resolution to this in xorg.conf.  And I have a dual monitors.  Strange, one monitor has my resolution but the other monitor has my other resolution which was set to 1280x800 ...wtf?
[02:03] <vkennedy85> Is it possible to delete the windows partition after I've set it up to dual boot?
[02:04] <Sam827> _Andrew: hold on. before we start with this, I need to get my trackpad working
[02:04] <skarface> vkennedy85: yes
[02:04] <mark[oz]> blbrown, if your using nvidia.. drop to shell and type sudo nvidia-settings
[02:04] <Pelo> vkennedy85, yes it is ,  just use gparted , in the admin menu ,   sudo apt-get install gparted if it is not there
[02:04] <adrian_2002ca> umm...my system tray area dissapeared..how do i get it back???
[02:04] <Sam827> _Andrew: I can't right click
[02:04] <jking_> vkennedy as long as you are using grub and not windows bootloader
[02:04] <vkennedy85> jking: grub?
[02:04] <Pelo> adrian_2002ca, right click on the pannel, add to pannel ,  notification area
[02:05] <jking_> grub = grand unifed bootloader
[02:05] <adrian_2002ca> oh, that's what its called, thanks Pelo
[02:05] <vkennedy85> jking: how do I know if I'm using that or not?
[02:05] <Pelo> adrian_2002ca, you are not in windows anymore
[02:05] <FastZ> Sam827: you should have said that the trackpad was your first problem when someone asked you that, instead of telling them it was  your mic
[02:05] <jking_> you should see it mention grub during the first few seconds of boot after your bios screens
[02:05] <_Andrew> Sam827, ok, Did you have a look at UbuntuForums.org ? I'm not so sure about trackpads, but I believe you need to edit your xorg.conf
[02:05] <adrian_2002ca> Pelo, i know, just didnt know tha name of it :P
[02:05] <Sam827> FastZ: I know, I'm sorry, it slipped my mind
[02:05] <Pelo> vkennedy85, unless you purposefully installed another one , that 's the one tha installs with ubuntu
[02:06] <skarface> jking_: considering vkennedy85 would've had to explicitly set that up, don't you think that's a useless caveat?
[02:06] <glenn69> My middle mouse button no longer copies last highlighted text?  What could have happened?
[02:06] <vkennedy85> Pelo: Ok, I just followed the ubuntu cd setup
[02:06] <jking_> not really if you install windows first and linux second you have grub
[02:06] <jking_> if you install linux first and windows second you have windows bootloader
[02:07] <jking_> that would have prob been a better question
[02:07] <Sam827> _Andrew: I tried that, but what happened was when I rebooted, X11 brokedown and I had to fix the xorg using command-line.
[02:07] <skarface> jking_: which you would have to explicitly set up to start linux anyway. you're making it more complicated than it is.
[02:07] <jking_> true sorry that is true
[02:07] <vkennedy85> it's far easier to set up partitions etc with Linux than WIndows right?
[02:07] <Pelo> jking_, I'm not sure that windows installs a bootloader that recognises linux , maybe other windows version but not linux , it probably skips the bootloader if it is linux
[02:08] <tim1> bye
[02:08] <Jaffarkelshac> !grub | jking_
[02:08] <ubotu> jking_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:08] <skarface> vkennedy85: well you have to buy software to have partition management anywhere near what gparted can do
[02:08] <jking_> true true i neglect to think
[02:08] <Pelo> vkennedy85, we thinks so
[02:08] <FastZ> Sam827: what did you use to "fix" your X server?  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xorg.conf (i think) is what you should have used
[02:08] <kelledin> quick question: how do I disable the splash screen in the 7.10 liveCD?
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> vkennedy85: yes, Install windows, then partition the drive and install Linux
[02:08] <herby_> windows has it's own 'bootloader' which does NOT recognize any other than windows
[02:08] <_Andrew> Sam827, Yeah, this is probably the hardest thing you're going to have to configure. I can't help you much on trackpads because mine worked out of the box so I've never had to deal with it.
[02:08] <Sam827> FastZ: thats what i did
[02:08] <blbrown> mark[oz]: wicked.  ok, configuration just got more confusing...whatever
[02:08] <Jaffarkelshac> nosplash kelledin
[02:08] <adrian_2002ca> ok, my notification area is not working...how do i get it back to working....i was using gdesklets and then i tried a toolbar and then it went shitty..so i uninstalled gdesklets
[02:08] <adrian_2002ca> still not working
[02:09] <mark[oz]> blbrown, more confusing? It should be much easier now?
[02:09] <vkennedy85> skarface: Ok. I have Ubuntu  installed, and now that it's set up I wanted to delete the windows and ntfs partitions I had set up and format them.  Cake right?
[02:09] <dhanraj> sam827: are you able to boot with live cd ?
[02:09] <node357> any idea how to get a Sound Blaster X-Fi Extreme Gamer working with Ubuntu?
[02:09] <tovella> is the ubuntu testing channel still called "ubuntu+1" ?
[02:09] <mneptok> adrian_2002ca: please find alternate adjectives for Ubutnu channels
[02:09] <jking_> <== feels warm under the collar
[02:09] <Pelo> adrian_2002ca, it will work when you start a prog that goes into the notification area , not all do
[02:09] <Jaffarkelshac> yes tovella
[02:09] <FastZ> adrian_2002ca: you just right click on the panel and add a notification area
[02:09] <skarface> vkennedy85: yeah you should be able to delete the partition and then merge it with a linux partition
[02:09] <Sam827> dhanraj: im on ubuntu right now. I fixed the issue
[02:09] <blbrown> mark[oz]: do you think the max resolutions or auto resolutions are the best fit?  That is outside of the range of my monitor?
[02:09] <tovella> Jaffarkelshac: thanx.
[02:09] <vkennedy85> skarface: Great thanks a lot for the help.
[02:09] <warri> !compiling
[02:09] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[02:09] <adrian_2002ca> Pelo, i know this
[02:09] <Sam827> dhanraj: but i still cant right clik
[02:09] <mark[oz]> zomg, I'm out of here!
[02:09] <dhanraj> sam827: as you told but are you able to boot with live cd ?
[02:10] <jking_> good call skarface
[02:10] <adrian_2002ca> FastZ, ok lets try again...
[02:10] <warri> !packages
[02:10] <kelledin> Jaffarkelshac: at which prompt?  I escaped out of the graphical bootloader and tried nosplash in text mode, with no luck
[02:10] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[02:10] <Sam827> dhanraj: ya
[02:10] <Pelo> warri, this may help you  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[02:10] <Sam827> dhanraj: y wouldnt i?
[02:10] <dhanraj> ok in live cd mode are you able to right click ?
[02:10] <FastZ> adrian_2002ca: that should work anyway
[02:10] <Sam827> dhanraj: i dont think so
[02:10] <kelledin> it still tried to bring up the orange progress bar et al
[02:11] <Sam827> dhanraj: no actually, i remember now
[02:11] <Jaffarkelshac> when you boot live cd, i think f6 or so brings up an option and just replace splash with nosplash
[02:11] <Pelo> kelledin, try the alternate install cd
[02:11] <brand0n> node357 see http://www.soundblaster.com/language.asp?sDestUrl=/support/downloads
[02:11] <brand0n> node357 there's a driver for linux
[02:11] <kelledin> ah, ok
[02:11] <adrian_2002ca> FastZ, nope, now im rocking two notification areas, no results...
[02:11] <jking_> doubly notified
[02:11] <jking_> nice
[02:12] <FastZ> adrian_2002ca: lol, ok you can get rid of the one you just put on there then... just right click it and select remove from panel
[02:12] <wax_man> Greetings. I know that anyone in here would not be likely to fall for any "Secret Shopping" scams, but I wanted to at least let somebody know to never sign up for this shit. People need to never give out identifying information over insecure paths. Don't visit shopperservices.com or anything related to it. It's registered with enom.com. Don't check it out.
[02:12] <Pici> !ot | wax_man
[02:12] <ubotu> wax_man: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:12] <FastZ> adrian_2002ca: what was it that you were having problems with anyway?  I didnt catch the first part of your conversation
[02:12] <kelledin> fortunately that shouldn't take long
[02:12] <adrian_2002ca> FastZ, allright, im back at the start...
[02:13] <tinin> could someone explain me how could I use bitlbee?
[02:13] <FastZ> adrian_2002ca: ok so what is the problem you are having?
[02:13] <Sam827> Is anyone here running Ubuntu on a MAcBook??
[02:13] <zero88> Wow it's pretty funny to me that doing work that involves me to go to pretty big name businesses and dealing with there I.T. people. Everyone of them I asked if they know linux they're reply was they never have.Ever.
[02:13] <millertime_018> hey-is there way to speed up torrent downloads?
[02:13] <kelledin> BTW, a pretty specific question, but has anyone tried installing 7.10 on an MS-9803 (MSI "Fuzzy") board?
[02:13] <Pelo> tinin, wht is bitlbee ?
[02:13] <skarface> tinin: install it, then /server localhost in your irc client
[02:13] <millertime_018> hello?
[02:13] <millertime_018> help
[02:13] <kelledin> anyone here that is?
[02:13] <zero88> Their*
[02:13] <adrian_2002ca> FastZ, it seems it decided to grant me a reprieve...now the icons are showing as they should....
[02:13] <kelledin> i have a feeling there's a gotcha I'm missing with this board
[02:13] <FastZ> millertime_018: pick a torrent that has a lot of seeds???
[02:13] <IndyGunFreak> !ask | millertime_018
[02:13] <ubotu> millertime_018: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:13] <skarface> Pelo: an irc server that connects to IM services
[02:14] <tinin> Pelo to use msn inside irssi, I think
[02:14] <blackvd> I'm looking for some software to send files with via bluetooth to my samsung m300 cellphone. Any suggestions would be appreciated, Thanks!
[02:14] <FastZ> adrian_2002ca: glad i could help!  :P
[02:14] <Starnestommy> it's an IRC-to-IM interface
[02:14] <Pelo> blackvd, open synaptic and do a search for bluetooth
[02:14] <Sam827> Is anyone here running Ubuntu on a MacBook??
[02:15] <adrian_2002ca> FastZ, me 2 :D
[02:15] <Pelo> Sam827, what is the issue ?
[02:15] <FastZ> Sam827: we heard you the first time
[02:15] <zero88> Hello.
[02:15] <tinin> skarface, could you be a bit more specific?
[02:15] <Pelo> !jo | zero88
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <Pelo> !hi | zero88
[02:15] <ubotu> zero88: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:15] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup blackvd
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> Sam827: is it an intel macbook?
[02:15] <skarface> tinin: well your question is vague. you install it (sudo apt-get install bitlbee) then you type connect to it (/server localhost)
[02:15] <dhanraj> sam827:: is your macbook for Core 2 Duo
[02:15] <skarface> -type...
[02:15] <Pelo> Sam827, consider doing some research in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:16] <fbc> it there anyway or script created to dump the ubuntu livecd to a partition on a usd drive you boot off of?
[02:16]  * zero88 waves to Pelo 
[02:16] <Sam827> dhanraj, IndyGunFreak, Intel c2d
[02:16] <skarface> tinin: of course you do /server localhost inside irssi... then you'll be in a "channel" where you can get help from the bot.
[02:16] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro Sam827
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> Sam827: then i think you should just be able to use the normal Ubuntu CD, just download and burn it as an image and burn it, and test your hardware
[02:16] <FastZ> fbc: Wasnt there mention somewhere some time ago that Ubuntu was developing a Ubuntu Mobile version?
[02:16] <Pelo> fbc, I tink you can just copy the content of the live cd to a usb drive and boot off that , provided you can boot from the usb drive
[02:17] <Sam827> bazhang: I've been trying, but nothing is working
[02:17] <bazhang> FastZ: yes; not fully developed yet though
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> Sam827: well what happens when you boot hte CD?
[02:17] <_Andrew> fbc, I think there is a special usb ubuntu distro but you'd have to google it
[02:17] <tinin> thanx skarface, I'm triying to get some funtionality on an old notebook with debian
[02:17] <bazhang> Sam827: there is a website called ubuntu-tutorials.com that has more on that
[02:17] <dhanraj> sa,827: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook#head-b0c1214684daee45c97d31d9113d7719accdf060
[02:17] <fbc> _Andrew, cool.. thank guys
[02:17] <hitmanWilly> DSL works well with thumb drives
[02:17] <Sam827> bazhang: thanks
[02:17] <FastZ> bazhang: that's what i thought, I thought maybe fbc could do some digging in regards to Ubuntu Mobile but since it's not finished yet, no sense
[02:17] <bazhang> np ;]
[02:18] <n00b_^^> hi can any one tell me how to boot with a flash drive :P
[02:18] <bazhang> www.pendrivelinux.com has all the details n00b_^^
[02:18] <_Andrew> n00b_^^, Where are you stuck?
[02:19] <gogeta> NOOB!!
[02:19] <gogeta> lol
[02:19] <Pelo> gogeta, be nice
[02:19] <gogeta> pelo for a flash boot dosent it just need a boot sector
[02:19] <gogeta> you dont even need grub
[02:20] <n00b_^^> clueless to start i want to boot ubuntu image from a flash drive
[02:20] <zero88> How would I host a IRC channel?
[02:20] <zero88> and keep it alive
[02:20] <Pelo> gogeta, a boot flag , a boot sector and soemting to boot I guess  like an os
[02:20] <bazhang> n00b_^^: be aware that it is very slow; also some computer bios do not allow that
[02:20] <skarface> tinin: you might have to install more stuff to make it work, but that's getting into debian-specific territory.
[02:20] <Pelo> !install | n00b_^^ look in here
[02:20] <ubotu> n00b_^^ look in here: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[02:20] <_Andrew> n00b_^^, Did you set your bios to boot usb? Does your motherboard let you boot usb?
[02:20] <Sam827> bazhang: It only says what the ubuntu forum says
[02:20] <zero88> lol n00b_^^ !!
[02:20] <n00b_^^> it allows on my comp have checked that
[02:21] <tinin> skarface I have installed irssi and bitlbee yet
[02:21] <n00b_^^> yes
[02:21] <bazhang> Sam827: what is that? which site?
[02:21] <gogeta> pelo i did a puppy pendrive one and it nedded a boot sector
[02:21] <n00b_^^> but it blanks out
[02:21] <gogeta> but thers also no boot loader
[02:21] <Pelo> gogeta, I wodlnT' realy know, I've never done it
[02:21] <skarface> tinin: you might need more software to load bitlbee... depends how debian does that.
[02:21] <n00b_^^> when i try to copy iso to flash drive
[02:21] <CoasterMaster> how do I get the source of a package?
[02:21] <Sam827> bazhang: you reffered me to ubuntu-tutorials.com
[02:21] <n00b_^^> i mean extracted iso lolz :p
[02:21] <gogeta> n00b ubuntu + flashdrive = bad
[02:21] <Pici> !usb | n00b_^^
[02:21] <ubotu> n00b_^^: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[02:22]  * Pelo hope ppl never find out, they'll never trust him again 
[02:22] <dhanraj> sam827: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook#head-b0c1214684daee45c97d31d9113d7719accdf060
[02:22] <_Andrew> n00b_^^, http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[02:22] <bazhang> Sam827: unless you give some specific details of what you have tried, what worked and what did not, and what errors you have gotten, then you might not get much help here
[02:22] <Sam827> dhanraj: already tried that
[02:23] <gogeta> pelo its due to the constent read wrights it burns a flash drive out
[02:23] <tinin> skarface, just the same way as ubuntu I guess ;)  Have you ever connected to Instant Messengers using irssi+bitlbee?
[02:23] <skarface> tinin: sure
[02:23] <Pelo> gogeta, I'm not the one asking
[02:23] <n00b_^^> thanks all BTw a bit lazy to write a CD :D
[02:23] <gogeta> lol
[02:23] <fbc> _Andrew, FastZ, the point of this is to be able to install ubuntu from a USB external drive instead of the CD (realy slow). So I basically want to boot the live CD off my hard drive. The tutorial I found are for flash drives and invlove erasing the whole drive.. I just want to partition it properly for the CD.
[02:23] <Sam827> bazhang, My trackpad can't right click, my muc doesn't work, my wifi doesnt work
[02:23] <skarface> but in past versions of ubuntu I had to install stuff that didn't get installed automatically
[02:23] <skarface> to get bitlbee to work
[02:23] <Sam827> bazhang: thats it i think
[02:23] <gogeta> n00b be ready to buy a new flashdrive in a week
[02:24] <linkinxp> why could be the reason for my Wireless icon , Bluetooth icon , ( only 2 icons i have right now loading in startup) takes from 10 seg to 20 to load after the pc boot up?
[02:24] <bazhang> that is a myth about the read/write
[02:24] <CoasterMaster> At Costco they have packs of 4 flash drives
[02:24] <_Andrew> fbc, Oh you want an external hard drive, I thought you meant flash
[02:24] <Pelo> gogeta, I remember someone mentionning there is a way around that, someting you need to tweak
[02:24] <Sam827> bazhang: i never get errors, it just doesnt work
[02:24] <n00b_^^> hehe why??
[02:24] <fbc> _Andrew, FastZ , I'm having a free ubuntu install fest in guadalajara this weekend on the university campus.
[02:24] <chris062689> Evenin'
[02:24] <gogeta> pelo well you can run it in ram of dump it in a temp file on the harddisk
[02:24] <Pelo> fbc, will the beer be free as well
[02:25] <n00b_^^> why what will happen to pen drive
[02:25] <gogeta> pelo to reduce the strees alot
[02:25] <_Andrew> So you want to connect the hard drive and install from that?
[02:25] <skarface> tinin: is there some reason you chose debian rather than ubuntu (and asked for help with debian here)? ;P
[02:25] <tinin> skarface I'm going to read a bit, I'm really lost
[02:25] <fbc> Pelo, I wish... something like 'brohemian raphsody'
[02:25] <bazhang> Sam827: all of this problems are eminently fixable; many folks run ubuntu well on their macbooks/macbook pros; the first order of business is always wifi though
[02:25] <n00b_^^> any other way round to it.... i mean not using Flash drive and cd to intall ubuntu
[02:25] <jking_> hooray loomix is hard
[02:25] <jking_> lol
[02:25] <Sam827> bazhang: OK
[02:25] <Pelo> fbc, you won'T see me there then
[02:26] <bazhang> n00b_^^: sure just mount the iso and run from that
[02:26] <jking_> xchat just borked w00t
[02:26] <gogeta> n00b for a install you should be fine
[02:26]  * Pelo will not be driving 2000 miles if there is no free beer at the end 
[02:26] <gogeta> n00b using it as your hd is the drive killer
[02:26] <fbc> Pelo, but there are chicks.. ubuntu chicks
[02:26] <bazhang> gogeta: that is largely a myth
[02:26] <_Andrew> fbc, Sounds awesome.
[02:26] <Pelo> fbc, there are chicks over here
[02:26] <fbc> Pelo, I hear they are into the freeware concept.
[02:27] <tinin> skarface, yeah, I use debian at home, but with an old notebook with 32 of ram... only debian could work well in it, it's really nice and functional, now I just need a way to use msn
[02:27] <n00b_^^> how do i mount the Iso and boot from it ..... :s
[02:27] <_Andrew> fbc, So you want the install disk on your extern hard drive?
[02:27] <skarface> tinin: I don't see any reason ubuntu server wouldn't work just as well
[02:27] <fbc> _Andrew, you got it bud
[02:27] <tinin> soryy kubuntu at home skarface
[02:27] <bazhang> n00b_^^: you also run windows?
[02:27] <gogeta> bazhang largly hey
[02:27] <n00b_^^> yes
[02:27] <n00b_^^> i run Winxp pro
[02:28] <n00b_^^> too
[02:28] <bazhang> gogeta: I've run it on my eeepc for a long while and no degradation whatsoever
[02:28] <gogeta> then why do all pen distros but ubuntu do everything they can to reduce the read wrights
[02:28] <bazhang> n00b_^^: consider Wubi then
[02:28] <_Silhouette_> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my external hard drive (format partition) and it just hangs at 33%! what's wrong?
[02:28] <gogeta> bazhang not abought dedgraclation
[02:28] <skarface> tinin: there are public bitlbee servers you can try out
[02:28] <climatewarrior> 13 days till hardy!!!! :)
[02:28] <gogeta> bazhang abought totaly failer
[02:28] <gogeta> bazhang and isnt a eepc solid state
[02:29] <chris062689> !offtopic
[02:29] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:29] <chris062689> Jmm
[02:29] <bazhang> gogeta: I mean external usb and yes this is offtopic thanks chris062689
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> _Silhouette_: i know installing on an external drive seems good, but i've rarely saw it successful here.. 1 or 2 times, most the time you end up with boot errors
[02:29] <skarface> tinin: http://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/servers.html
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> why nto just install it normally?
[02:29] <chris062689> Join #eeepc
[02:29] <bazhang> !wubi | n00b_^^
[02:29] <ubotu> n00b_^^: wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[02:30] <n00b_^^> wubi beta available
[02:30] <tinin> skarface really really lost... i don't even know what to type in that black and blue screen. I use linux for some years now, but always with graphical and shiny interfaces
[02:30] <chris062689> I could never get Wubi to work right.
[02:30] <skarface> heh
[02:30] <chris062689> It would always freeze when I booted Ubuntu.
[02:30] <bazhang> it works very well in the next release
[02:30] <gogeta> chris062689 you fail at windows
[02:30] <gogeta> >:o
[02:30] <chris062689> ...  Yes I do.
[02:30] <chris062689> :)
[02:30] <chris062689> That's why I use Linux!
[02:31] <bazhang> got to go all; back later ;]
[02:31] <chris062689> Besides, that was on another one of my PCs I just wanted to test it out on
[02:31] <neeto> What's a good DVD ripping program for linux?
[02:31] <chris062689> I don't actually run Windows on any of my PCs except my Laptop (ungh Vita.)
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> neeto: i like acidrip
[02:31] <_Andrew> fbc, You know I don't see a CD being any slower. The most important thing you're going to need is an internet connection to download extra packages.
[02:31] <neeto> IndyGunFreak: sounds good, I'll try it out, thanks.
[02:31] <gogeta> fbc cd slower????
[02:32] <fbc> _Andrew, yeah.. that the second part...
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> neeto: np, hope it works out
[02:32] <fbc> gogeta, then a usb2 connected external drive?
[02:32] <Sam827> bazhang: can you help me get wifi working?
[02:32] <_Andrew> fbc, Or you could download alot of packages and set yourself up as a repository, let people connect and download from you.
[02:32] <gogeta> fbc oh the usb 2 drive would give you more speed
[02:32] <_Silhouette_> IndyGunFreak: my internal HD died. Also, it recognizes the drive OK, but the install is hanging on 33%
[02:33] <gogeta> fbc but a hardrive is always the best
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> _Silhouette_: well, yhouc learly didn't listen to a word i said, so.. good luck
[02:33] <fbc> gogeta, yeah,, so you wanna send me one?
[02:33] <gogeta> fbc lol
[02:33] <_Silhouette_> IndyGunFreak: what are you talking about?
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> _Silhouette_: nothing.
[02:33] <gogeta> fbc? what a hardrive
[02:33] <fbc> gogeta, I got an external sata on a usb2 connector
[02:34] <gogeta> fbc oh that will work fine
[02:34] <fbc> gogeta, I just need instructions on how to go about setting it up...
[02:34] <gogeta> fbc well your best bet is installing grub on the externel
_Silhouette_: i know installing on an external drive seems good, but i've rarely saw it successful here.. 1 or 2 times, most the time you end up with boot errors
[02:34] <_Andrew> Maybe he's talking about that
[02:35] <gogeta> fbc grub likes to trip out if you remove a usb drive and grubs on the internel
[02:35] <n00b_^^> i have a toshiba satellite laptop and none of the usb work at all in it . I says cannot map dirve :(
[02:35] <lOki^> any1 know the swedish ubuntu channel?
[02:35] <bastid_raZor> !se
[02:35] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> bastid_raZor: do you know every foriegn language channeL?..lol
[02:35] <charles|64> anyone know if there is a way to use a logitech wireless mouse with any logitech wireless receiver?
[02:36] <lOki^> !se
[02:36] <RequinB4> I'm looking for a method to automatically extract the audio from video files put in a certain directory
[02:36] <bastid_raZor> IndyGunFreak; heh, no i test them on ubotu in a private msg to make sure i'm correct before i look goofy in channel :)
[02:36] <Ketzerei> I keep getting an [Errno 5] Input/Output error when I try to install Ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> bastid_raZor: lol
[02:37] <_Andrew> RequinB4, memcoder is, i think what you're looking for..
[02:37] <millertime_018> sauerbraten isnt working on my computer will someone help me?
[02:37] <RequinB4> _Andrew - off to google, thanks
[02:37] <_Andrew> RequinB4, that's also something for mp4 files too if you need it
[02:38] <lewench> Trying to connect to my wireless router with my laptop, using "WEP 64/128-bit Hex" and inputting the right key but the laptop won't connect. Authentication is "Open System" this is for a WRT330N linksys router. Any help on this?
[02:38] <RequinB4> _Andrew - yeah, i can do it by hand, but that becomes a pain with bulk files
[02:38] <n00b_^^> bahzang u meant that i mount the iso in Windows and then run Wubi :)
[02:38] <charles|64> lewench: are you sure it wep and not WPA?
[02:38] <n00b_^^> from it
[02:38] <gogeta> fbc best bet is to get the supergrib cd i dont rember how smart the ubuntu installer is on a usb hd
[02:38] <millertime_018> have you run fwcutter?
[02:38] <gogeta> supergrub
[02:38] <millertime_018> or any of those generic drivers?
[02:39] <millertime_018> but can anyone help me?
[02:39] <fbc> gogeta, supergrub? never heard of it... but I'll check it out...
[02:39] <gogeta> its a grub live cd
[02:39] <lewench> charles|64, What do you mean? Routers security mode says WEP|Association Mode:Open|Transmit Key:1|WEP Encryption: 64bit 10 hex digit
[02:39] <_Andrew> millertime_018, What do mean by not run
[02:39] <fbc> gogeta, someone should make installfest related guides.
[02:39] <millertime_018> I need some help with getting sauerbraten to work. i think that my chipset doesn't have a driver
[02:39] <gogeta> fbc you can use it to build a linuc loader on any drive
[02:40] <gogeta> fbc or restore a botch mbr
[02:40] <gogeta> botched
[02:40] <n00b_^^> gogeta supergrub is similer to wubi??
[02:40] <d0lphin_n0el> someone knows why ... my ubuntu apache server can`t be access from users from outside?! :x and onlyfrom localhost ?! :x in ports.conf i haveonly thedoor select :x the public_html it iswork fine :x
[02:40] <_Andrew> millertime_018, Have you got a graphics card and installed the drivers?
[02:40] <gogeta> no wubi is linux inside windows
[02:40] <Ketzerei> I keep getting an [Errno 5] Input/Output error when I try to install Ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[02:40] <millertime_018> well ok get this my regular gui works. i can look at pictures and do other stuff. when i go to start sauerbraten
[02:41] <eduardo> Ketzerei: when are you getting this error
[02:41] <millertime_018> I have a chipset and I dont know if the drivers for it are installed with ubuntu
[02:41] <_Andrew> millertime_018, How did you install the game?
[02:41] <n00b_^^> gogeta u mean wubi is linux on top of Win kernel sad
[02:41] <dhanraj> leaving ....
[02:41] <n00b_^^> good for nothing
[02:41] <millertime_018> through the add/remove box with all the stuff in it
[02:41] <Ketzerei> About 20% through the installler process. Earlier today it got completely through, but GRUB didnt install correctly and hasnt been able to finish since.
[02:41] <gogeta> n00b not on the kernel it uses the windows fs thow
[02:41] <millertime_018> i was just looking under games and stuff thought it sounded good.
[02:42] <gogeta> n00b and the windows boot loader
[02:42] <lewench> Trying to connect to my wireless router with my laptop, using "WEP 64/128-bit Hex" and inputting the right key but the laptop won't connect. Authentication is "Open System" this is for a WRT330N linksys router. Any help on this?
[02:42] <eduardo> Ketzerei: are u trying to install it on your hd or in an external drive?
[02:42] <_Andrew> millertime_018, Try this version, I think it's newer.. http://getdeb.net/app/Sauerbraten
[02:42] <Ketzerei> HD
[02:42] <n00b_^^> gogeta what does fs means
[02:42] <gogeta> n00b it makes it so you dont need to partation or deal with grub
[02:43] <gogeta> n00b file system
[02:43] <n00b_^^> and it installs on ???
[02:43] <eduardo> Ketzerei: you're trying to install ubuntu 7.10 right?
[02:43] <n00b_^^> gogeta on Win Filesystem
[02:43] <Ketzerei> No, 8.04. 7.10 does the same thing though, alternate too. Same with kubuntu.
[02:43] <gogeta> n00b it installs on your windows partation using a image file
[02:44] <gogeta> n00b think of it as running linux from a zip file
[02:44] <eduardo> Ketzerei: if its 8.04 go to #ubuntu+1
[02:44] <MyDogJustKickedM> !register
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[02:44] <n00b_^^> gogeta then how do i boot linux then .. 1 i start window and boot it. 2 chhoose Os at boot time
[02:44] <gogeta> n00b wubi is knothing new redhat did it years back themselfs
[02:44] <eduardo> !hardy
[02:44] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:44] <eduardo> !hardy | Ketzerei
[02:44] <ubotu> Ketzerei: please see above
[02:44] <lewench> Does ubuntu have wireless issues that causes it not to connect?
[02:44] <gogeta> n00b when you start windows it will ask you qwitch os you whant
[02:45] <Ketzerei> Thanks.
[02:45]  * Dr_willis wonders if redhat is still doing its 'wubi' thing. or did they give up on it?
[02:45] <eduardo> Ketzerei: np
[02:45]  * LjL wonders if Dr_willis is offtopic :)
[02:45]  * Pelo wonders off 
[02:45] <lewench> Trying to connect to my wireless router with my laptop, using "WEP 64/128-bit Hex" and inputting the right key but the laptop won't connect. Authentication is "Open System" this is for a WRT330N linksys router. Any help on this?
[02:45] <n00b_^^> gogeta thanks i will try it ( but i am a bit scared :p :s)
[02:45] <gogeta> dr_wills redhat dumped it after rh8 i beleve
[02:46] <gogeta> n00b wubi can be just as easly uninstalled
[02:46] <gogeta> n00b it shows up in ad/remove
[02:46] <n00b_^^> gogeta hmm... cool i will try it then
[02:46] <StevenX> guys, what is the equivalent setting of "fast draft" in Ubuntu?
[02:46] <n00b_^^> goget it formats something
[02:46] <_Andrew> lewench, How did you enter the key?
[02:46] <gogeta> n00b no only its own imsgae file
[02:47] <gogeta> chris062689 it does not efect windows
[02:47] <gogeta> oops
[02:47] <gogeta> lol
[02:47] <n00b_^^> gogeta perhps slow (or very slow
[02:47] <gogeta> n00b it does not format anything
[02:47] <lewench> _Andrew, I tried "2e6122045d" and "2E6122045D"
[02:47] <gogeta> chris062689 no its only slightly slower
[02:47] <gogeta> darn it lol
[02:47] <lewench> _Andrew, thats the 64bit hex key for 0mgh12u2
[02:47] <_Andrew> no I mean eth1 Properties -> WEP key (ascii)
[02:48] <blbrown> ok, back with the monitor issues: i posted to the forum, does anyone have a solution for this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4700168#post4700168
[02:48] <gogeta> n00b only the fs is slower the os itsself will run at the same speed
[02:48] <lewench> _Andrew, Ok now im lost.
[02:48] <n00b_^^> gogeta thanks alot
[02:48] <StevenX> is there an equivalent to "fast draft" on linux?
[02:48] <gogeta> n00b it will be fatser then a live cd or usb installer but not as fast as a nativ
[02:48] <_Andrew> lewench, System -> Administration -> Network -> your wireless -> Properties -> Password type
[02:49] <walski> does anyone know the final freaze data for the hardy beta?
[02:49] <lewench> _Andrew, box is checked with "roaming mode"
[02:50] <walski> date i mean sorry
[02:50] <akafurious> did some sat my name
[02:50] <gogeta> 05/23/2020
[02:50] <gogeta> lol
[02:50] <lewench> _Andrew, I think I got it. I didn't know I had to do that
[02:51] <lewench> _Andrew, Thought everything was on my "Network manager" on the top bar.
[02:51] <walski> handy gogeta thanks ;)
[02:51] <_Andrew> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule
[02:51] <gogeta> walsk but realy its normaly 2 weeks befor relese
[02:51] <walski> k thanks _Andrew
[02:51] <walski> cheers :D
[02:51] <gogeta> walsk they upgrade all the testers to final in that time frame
[02:52] <scottyL> I'll try this one again: I'm setting the static IP of the Gutsy Server I've just installed
[02:52] <bertrand> #poland-pl
[02:52] <scottyL> I'm a complete idiot with regards to this
[02:52] <scottyL> How should I determine which IP to assign the server to?
[02:52] <seasurf> i love hardy. finally when i plug headphones in, the laptop speakers turn off =D
[02:52] <_Andrew> scott__, sudo ifconfig 192.168.1.101  <-- or whatever
[02:52] <_Andrew> woops
[02:53] <_Andrew> scottyL, sudo ifconfig 192.168.1.101  <-- or whatever
[02:53] <gogeta> walsk the best way to knoe is the beta splash screens and final one almsot always change
[02:53] <_Andrew> too many scottys
[02:53] <gogeta> walsk at least with all the betas i did
[02:53] <scottyL> _Andrew: I'm already in VI editing /etc/network/interfaces/ , as my installation guide is telling me to do
[02:53] <pedroj> hghg
[02:53] <scottyL> My other computer is a windows machine
[02:54] <gogeta> scottyl boooo
[02:54] <pedroj> guasamara with yuç
[02:54] <scottyL> Should I just grab the IP address of the computer I'm on and change the last few numbers?
[02:54] <scottyL> gogeta: :P, I'm trying to get into Linux... you gotta start somewhere
[02:54] <lewench> _Andrew, thanks again restarted laptop and went on just fine.
[02:54] <_Andrew> scottyL, If you're on a home network usually the prefered is 192.168.0    or 192.168.1
[02:55] <walski> is it safe to dist-upgrade to the beta from gutsy with out breaking your system ??? just got owned about a month ago from dist-upgrading from gutsy
[02:55] <_Andrew> lewench, Awesome
[02:55] <wers> how do I change openbox keyboard shortcuts? :)
[02:55] <scottyL> _Andrew: Ok, fair enough, I'll start with the 192.168.1.###
[02:55] <scottyL> Thanks
[02:55] <_Andrew> walski, Why not wait until release in a few weeks
[02:55] <Carbonflux> if I am going to run Ubuntu inside VMWare is there anything I need to know ? is there a special kernel I should use ?
[02:56] <n00b_^^> carbonflux its easy and simple
[02:56] <Carbonflux> great :) thats what I thought
[02:56] <walski> andrew good point lol
[02:56] <_Andrew> walski, I know there are skype problems if you use that..
[02:56] <joshritger> I have used ubuntu with gnome for a while now and in the past I have experimented with xfce and was wondering if there was a setting to allow you to get a main menu in ubuntu with gnome when you right click on the desktop like in xfce
[02:56] <n00b_^^> carbon use Vmware server
[02:57] <_Andrew> Carbonflux, Nope, live cd is fine
[02:57] <Carbonflux> n00b_^^, that is what I plan on doing
[02:57] <Carbonflux> _Andrew, thanks :)
[02:57] <walski> thats from medibuntu archieve isnt it?
[02:57] <Carbonflux> n00b_^^, I am running Ubuntu on most of my machines now so I am used to installing it, this is going to be a VMWare install in Vista tho heh...thanks for the response :)
[02:58] <rdg> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a Dell T105 (ia64) server which won't work because of some sort of SATA issue. My only other computer is a Windows (32bit) computer. How can I get Ubuntu installed using the equipment I have?
[02:58] <n00b_^^> carbonflux what is ur "RAM" :p
[02:58] <_Andrew> walski, No, some kind of problem with pulseaduio
[02:58] <Carbonflux> n00b_^^, I have 4gig
[02:58] <_Andrew> walski, Maybe they fixed it, no idea
[02:58] <n00b_^^> carbonflux or it is going to be damn slow :(
[02:58] <walski> yeap yeap
[02:58] <Boohbah> rdg: figure out the SATA issue
[02:59] <Carbonflux> n00b_^^, which is about minimum for this experiment heh
[02:59] <n00b_^^> carbon and processor
[02:59] <rdg> it's a known  nv sata bug in linux
[02:59] <Boohbah> rdg: is your chipset supported?
[02:59] <Carbonflux> amd64 X2 2.8ghz
[02:59] <walski> yeah i hope pulse is better then esd
[02:59] <n00b_^^> carbon its going to be smooth then
[02:59] <n00b_^^> carbo GL
[02:59] <Carbonflux> its all newish hardware
[02:59] <Carbonflux> n00b_^^, just a geforce 8600
[02:59] <_Andrew> rdg, You could install Ubuntu inside windows with Wubi and dual boot?
[03:00] <Carbonflux> thats the weak part heh
[03:00] <TheFearsomeFufu> My taskbar in gnome seems to have gotten messed up. It's displaying taskbar entires for programs that I've closed...Is there some way I can "refresh" the taskbar or reload it or something?
[03:00] <Carbonflux> it should be ok for non-gaming stuff etc
[03:00] <joshritger> is there anyway in gnome to get the same main menu on right click as in xfce
[03:00] <n00b_^^> carbon it going to be fine
[03:00]  * Pelo wonders if metacity-compoziting can do someting other then add transparency and shadows
[03:00] <_Andrew> joshritger, When you mean main menu do you mean the applications menu?
[03:01] <Carbonflux> ah good, thanks again n00b_^^ :) need reassurance sometimes heh
[03:01] <_Andrew> joshritger, ...because there are three really..
[03:01] <joshritger> _Andrew: Yes, I want to get rid of my panels but still have my menus on right click of desktop
[03:01] <walski> anyhow _Andrew thanks for your help and that wiki url
[03:01] <walski> :D
[03:02] <_Andrew> joshritger, I haven't the slightest clue how to do that sorry.
[03:02] <joshritger> _Andrew: I swear I was able to do it in an older version of ubuntu, but maybe I am mixing it up with xubuntu
[03:04] <shanepardue> I'm on a clean grub install, how do I set up a grub entry to boot into an encrypted ubuntu partition?
[03:04] <wers> how do I change openbox keyboard shortcuts? :)
[03:04] <Flinx> Hi. I want to compile nvidia kernel module in Gutsy. In debian there is nvidia-kernel-legacy-source package which contains nvidia-kernel-legacy-source.tar.gz, but in Gutsy there is no such file. Where can i get this tarball with modules sources in Gutsy?
[03:05] <kindofabuzz> how can i get my trah back on the desktop? trash on desktop is checked in gconf-editor
[03:05] <shanepardue> Flinx: I recommend using Albert Milone's Envy software, google "envy nvidia"
[03:06] <Pelo> shanepardue, the grub entry for that partitons shoud pretty much be the same as usual I beleive but for an extra switch,  you would probably have better luck ask ing in #grub tho
[03:06] <Flinx> shanepardue: Ok, thanks. Can envy get sources for nvidia kernel module?
[03:06] <Flinx> shanepardue: I know envy can install drivers, but i need to compile it from sources
[03:07] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, rigth click on the desktop and sort the icons it might jsut be outside the desktop atm
[03:07] <shanepardue> Pelo: I copied and pasted my grub entry from the previous install and that didn't work. I may try the grub channel
[03:08] <Pelo> shanepardue, the hd0,0 of your new install might not be the same, same can the said for the uuid , you may need to edit those
[03:08] <kindofabuzz> Pelo, yeah it was, thanks
[03:08]  * Pelo loves noobs , they know even less then he does 
[03:09] <neur0n> how do i install the nvidia manager?
[03:09] <Pelo> neur0n, look in synaptic I beleive it is called nvidia-settings
[03:10] <neur0n> Pelo: didn't find it -(
[03:11] <shanepardue> Pelo: I'm not sure how my entry could be affected by uuid or different device number..it's the same machine and my grub doesn't include uuid. I believe the problem has something to do with the referencing of /dev/mapper/sda8_crypt. Doesn't that have to be unlocked first somehow?
[03:11] <Pelo> neur0n, sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[03:11] <kadko> I'm sorry if I download the Ubuntu Hardy when it will be oficial released my "beta vercion" will update to the final vercion or i need to redownload the new vercion?
[03:12] <shanepardue> kadko: you can update from the beta without a new version download
[03:12] <Pelo> shanepardue, I woudn'T know about that,  but uuid will change if you repartition and boot order will affect the device number in grub,  but I was jsut offering suggestions
[03:12] <rks> hello
[03:12] <rks> i need to chnge the tcp-ip setting
[03:12] <n00b_^^> pelo how to do that :s
[03:12] <kadko> it will be apper as an automatic update or i need to reconfigure some files?
[03:12] <Pelo> hello rks
[03:12] <rks> how can i do that
[03:13] <Pelo> n00b_^^, how do I do what ?
[03:13] <shanepardue> Pelo: Thanks, I really appreciate your help. my partitions haven't been moved around, but I'll look for a solution to the /dev/mapper issue
[03:13] <_Andrew> kadko, It will appear with new updates
[03:13] <kadko> okey tnx
[03:14] <n00b_^^> shanepardue  you can update from the beta without a new version download ; how to do this :s
[03:14] <Pelo> rks, what settings specificaly do you need to change ? I thnk tcp ip is a windows thing, but Iming be wrong
[03:14] <shanepardue> n00b_^^: It will update when you download new updates
[03:14] <goget1> pelo NOOOBBBBB!!!!!!
[03:14] <goget1> lol
[03:14] <rks> i want to change the MTU unit of tcp
[03:15] <Pelo> goget1, don't do that , it annoys the ops
[03:15] <goget1> rks you can do tha at the roughter level
[03:15] <goget1> Pelo tcp-ip a windows thing you had it coming
[03:15] <Megiddo> I tried Hardy Heron beta 1, but the network won't work for some reason. It reports that it successfully sends packets but reports that it never receives any packets. I'm running Gutsy just fine right now. Any ideas?
[03:15] <Pelo> goget1, the name of the protocol I meant
[03:15] <n00b_^^> shanepardue by using synaptic
[03:15] <rks> i am using internet through cell phone, so no outer
[03:16] <rks> and i want to change the default settings
[03:16] <goget1> pelo still called tcp/p in linux
[03:16] <_Andrew> Megiddo, Can you ping other computers on the network?
[03:16] <rks> so thet i can get more speed
[03:16] <goget1> pelo or any other os
[03:16] <Megiddo> _Andrew: no
[03:16] <_Andrew> Megiddo, Can you ping ubuntu from other computers?
[03:17] <Megiddo> _Andrew: Didn't try
[03:17] <rks> ok ok
[03:17] <Megiddo> I take it it's not a common problem then?
[03:17] <Megiddo> Seems so strange that it would work in Gutsy and not Hardy
[03:17] <_Andrew> Megiddo, Is it a wired connection?
[03:17] <rks> what is in the name of tcp/ip in linux
[03:17] <Megiddo> Correct, wired.
[03:17] <neur0n> Pelo: didn't find any packages
[03:17] <gogeta> rks tcp/ip
[03:17] <gogeta> ;p;
[03:18] <Pelo> Megiddo, hardy is redoing many things, stuff that works in gutsy might not work in hardy yet,   there aer still many issues that need to be worked out
[03:18] <gogeta> rks what you trying to do
[03:18] <_Andrew> Megiddo, Did you plug the network cable in after starting up ubuntu?
[03:18] <Pelo> neur0n, where are you looking ?
[03:18] <Megiddo> _Andrew: No
[03:18] <bernier> Hi, could someone give me suggestions about a good IDE for C++ for linux?
[03:18] <arvind_khadri> BernierAnjuta
[03:18] <LjL> !code
[03:18] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[03:18] <arvind_khadri> bernier, anjuta
[03:18] <Daisuke_Ido> bernier, vi :D  but seriously, anjuta's good
[03:18] <Megiddo> _Andrew: Tried everything I could think of with my (somewhat) limited knowledge too, ifup eth0, /etc/init.d/networking restart, dhclient directly and such
[03:18] <bernier> ok thanks
[03:19] <neur0n> Pelo: sudo aptitude isntall nvidia-settings
[03:19] <_Andrew> Megiddo,  Yeah you're probably better checking #ubuntu+1 and launchpad.net , it might actually be a bug
[03:19] <Pelo> neur0n, never mind I just realised, you probably donT' have all the repositories enabled,  go in  > menu > system > admin > software sources,  chck everybox on the first tab and every box on the 3rd tab , then exit and reload,  then type sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings in a terminal
[03:19] <JuLio> hi, Im thinking of getting a macbook pro, can I just downlaoad an ubuntu iso and boot it as easy as in windows?
[03:19] <neur0n> Pelo: I do.
[03:19] <_Andrew> Megiddo, Wired connections work on my girlfriends laptop but you might have the lucky hardware
[03:19] <Megiddo> Thanks anyways _Andrew
[03:19] <n00b_^^> does any one knows a good Fwonload manager for ubuntu as good as flash get ( with all its features ;))
[03:19] <JuLio> I dunno how the macbook pro boots a cd
[03:19] <Megiddo> Haha
[03:19] <Pelo> neur0n, make sure
[03:19] <echinos> anyone else having problems with gnome-settings-daemon failing?
[03:20] <n00b_^^> *download
[03:20] <rks> helo
[03:20] <neur0n> Pelo: i just did. all boxes are checked
[03:20] <gogeta> n00b lol downthemall
[03:20] <rks> hello
[03:20] <gogeta> firefox plugin
[03:20] <Pelo> neur0n, backport as well ?
[03:20] <n00b_^^> gogeta ok
[03:20] <Pelo> neur0n, go in synaptic and do a search for nvidia , check the spelling
[03:21] <nith_> If I wanted to run a program (rdesktop) in another TTY without creating a new login session, how could I do that?
[03:21] <Pelo> echinos, hardy ?
[03:21] <echinos> yea
[03:21] <Pelo> echinos, ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:21] <echinos> have done, will try again
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> nith_, xeyphr?
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> xephyr*
[03:21] <_Andrew> JuLio, Yes, Live CD for intel macs works too. If it's PPC mac then you need the PPC version, although I believe PPC isn't offically supported
[03:21] <scottyL> I'm looking to install the KDE GUI onto my newly installed Gutsy Server... this guide is telling me to go to /etc/apt/sources.list and enable the universe and multiverse repositories
[03:22] <JuLio> _Andrew, its an intel mac
[03:22] <JuLio> _Andrew, what iso should I download?
[03:22] <n00b_^^> x86
[03:22] <_Andrew> JuLio, Then give it ago and hope the magic happens. Desktop x86
[03:22] <artenius> scottyL: yes, you need to remove the #'s from those lines or add the lines if they're not there/
[03:22] <Pelo> scottyL, just uncomment the lines in question , ie remove the #
[03:22] <scottyL> Uh, never mind
[03:22] <scottyL> Yeah, I figured that
[03:22] <scottyL> I just wasn't sure which lines
[03:23] <artenius> good work lad!
[03:23] <JuLio> _Andrew, have you booted a cd from a mac?, I will download it, but I'm a noob at using macs
[03:23] <RainMakesMeWet> !hardy
[03:23] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[03:23] <scottyL> Thanks, guys
[03:23] <scottyL> I'm going to be gutsy about it and delete the two I think it is :)
[03:23] <_Andrew> JuLio, I haven't, but if it's an intel mac then it runs an x86 processor
[03:23] <nith_> Daisuke_Ido: can't find that as a package, is that  a program?
[03:24] <dmsuperman> anybody have a clue why some of the album covers have inverted colors in amarok?
[03:24] <gogeta> intel macs own
[03:24] <gogeta> i whant 1 or 4 but im to poor
[03:24] <_Andrew> JuLio, You should also look at the documentation on Mac books in the ubuntu wiki.
[03:24] <JuLio> ok, thanks _Andrew :D
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> !xephyr | Nith
[03:24] <LjL> !ot
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xephyr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> it's xserver-xephyr
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> a nested xserver
[03:25] <neur0n> Pelo: thank you. now it found. nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig....which one do you recommend?
[03:25] <gogeta> !windows
[03:25] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[03:25] <Pelo> neur0n, settings
[03:25] <gogeta> lol
[03:25] <gogeta> they made it nicer
[03:25] <LjL> !ot | gogeta
[03:25] <ubotu> gogeta: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:25] <blbrown> ok, I figured out my screen resolution issues.  Apparently there are 15,000 ways to configure the resolution: 1. nvidia-settings.   2. xorg.conf. 3. gnome resolution screen settings 4.  the graphics and screen settings?  wtf?
[03:25] <xlriut> Hello, I'm trying to configure xlock. It has a -bg color option. But -bg color black doesn't work. So my question is if there is some special color codes (e.g., for black)?
[03:25] <gogeta> ljl that used to set off a joke
[03:26] <LjL> i KNOW
[03:26] <LjL> however, i'm asking you to stay on topic
[03:26]  * Nith goes to look it up
[03:26] <Nith> apparently its already installed
[03:26] <_Andrew> blbrown, You were having issues?
[03:27] <JuLio> _Andrew, shouldnt I use 64 bit CD for macbook pro?, it has intel core duo processor
[03:27] <_Andrew> JuLio, Nope
[03:27] <blbrown> _Andrew, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=752710
[03:27] <JuLio> ok, cool
[03:27] <gogeta> better with 32bit even on a x64
[03:27] <dmsuperman> Alright, here's a good question. When I installed Ubuntu over windows, my left channel started getting static out of it. I've got 5.1, and whenever i play music I hear static coming out of both my left speakers, and from the center speaker
[03:27] <_Andrew> JuLio, Only if you have an AMD athlon 64bit processor
[03:27] <dmsuperman> However, this didn't happen when I had windows. Anybody have a clue why?
[03:28] <dmsuperman> And these are brand new speakers btw
[03:28] <dmsuperman> by the way
[03:28] <gogeta> dmsuperman sounds like a driver issue
[03:28] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, Is this hardy?
[03:28]  * pimplife i need a list of ubuntu friendly wifi cards
[03:28] <travisat> core 2 duos can use the 64 bit version
[03:28] <_Andrew> oh really?
[03:28] <dmsuperman>  7.10, i don't know the names
[03:28] <_Andrew> didn't know
[03:28] <Pelo> pimplife, try in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:28] <gogeta> pimplife wifi linux frendly good luck
[03:29] <dmsuperman> how can i make sure i have the correct driver for my audio?
[03:29] <travisat> _Andrew: using 64bit right now on a e8400 : )
[03:29] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, Is it making static all the time or when you do things like open a program?
[03:29] <SpookyET_> Does anyone knows how to set the gamma on mesa? I know about xgamma, but I wat something more permaent, like a xorg.conf option.
[03:29] <dmsuperman> i never specifically installed any audio driver, but it correctly detected that i have surround
[03:29] <dmsuperman> only when it's playing audio, but yes all the time
[03:29] <_Andrew> one sec
[03:29] <dmsuperman> i'm doing nothing but having xchat open and amarok, playing a song, and there's static
[03:29] <gogeta> SpookyET_ if you have a ari or nivida there controle panels can do that
[03:29] <lordleemo> pimplife: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[03:30] <gogeta> ati
[03:30] <Pelo> dmsuperman, this is going to sound silly but make sure none of the cables for the speakers cross or are tangles with power cords
[03:30] <dmsuperman> Pelo: already did ;)
[03:30] <SpookyET> gogeta: i mentioned mesa
[03:30] <gogeta>  dmsuperman doyou have a tv card?
[03:30] <Pelo> dmsuperman, try looking up speaker static in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:30] <dmsuperman> gogeta: no
[03:31] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, Try this... sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base    .... and then add this to the bottom of the file ... options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 model=3stack
[03:31] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, then restart
[03:31] <nickrud> pimplife  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[03:31] <kimo> #linuxac
[03:31] <nickrud> dmsuperman if you're lucky, there's someone in #alsa that knows your system well
[03:31] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: restart whole pc?
[03:31] <_Andrew> yeah
[03:31] <dmsuperman> alright
[03:32] <StevenX> blah, printing in ubuntu is very problematic.
[03:32] <Pelo> _Andrew, could this fix a small issue I hve where if I turn up the volume I get a shhhhhh sound out if my speakers even when I have no audio working ?
[03:32] <_Andrew> Pelo, That could be because you have Mic Boost on
[03:32] <Nith> Daisuke_Ido: almost but not quite what I want
[03:32] <Pelo> _Andrew, I have no mic but how would I turn off mic boost ?
[03:33] <Nith> Daisuke_Ido: I'd like to actually switch to tty9 and see my rdesktop session there
[03:33] <_Andrew> Pelo, Should be in volume control
[03:33] <Pelo> StevenX, that is not my expericence but I have well supporttd printers what is your issue
[03:33] <wers> I want to edit ubuntu's default gdm theme and put my name on it. how do I do that? :)
[03:34] <kimo> how to install theme on ubuntu 7.10
[03:34] <gogeta> Pelo: _ muteing my tv card fixed that issue on my card
[03:34] <Nith> how do I run another X server with a specific program on TTY9 ( or some other )
[03:34] <gogeta> Pelo: _ in my case that was line in
[03:34] <Pelo> _Andrew, nope, not on , and I tuned off the mic in anycase , but I can now see that when I mvoe my mouse  the noise changes
[03:34] <Pelo> gogeta, no tv card
[03:34] <blbrown> anyone having screen resolution problems.  I solved mine; this may help you:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4700275#post4700275
[03:34] <tarkus> anyone using a thinkpad here? i was wondering if its possible to customize the touchpad? and have it dedicated to scrolling. up,down,left, and right.
[03:34] <tarkus> is this possible?
[03:35] <gogeta> Pelo: _ sounds like feedback
[03:35] <_Andrew> Pelo, You could try it and if it doesn't work just remove it
[03:35] <Megiddo> ﻿As far as downloading a daily build (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20080411/), is that using the latest packages or is it everything pulled from SVN/Git/CVS?
[03:35] <JPSman> Ok so I have ubuntu installed on two things - desktop and laptop - and everytime I try to sign onto my wireless network on my laptop it freezes up
[03:35] <_Andrew> Pelo, I don't think it'll work though
[03:35] <Pelo> _Andrew, remvoe what ?
[03:35] <nickrud> Megiddo latest packages
[03:35] <_Andrew> Pelo, You could try adding that line I pasted
[03:35] <Pelo> _Andrew, ah
[03:36] <gogeta> JPSman welcome to linux and bad wireless support
[03:36] <gogeta> JPSman we get used to it
[03:36] <gogeta> lol
[03:36] <Megiddo> Good, thanks nickrud. When I tried it on April 1st everything had pink trim. Hope that was just an April Fool's joke though
[03:36] <nickrud> Pelo http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sound/alsa/ALSA-Configuration.txt has about 50+ things you could add there , but broken down a bit by chip/machine
[03:36] <JPSman> gogeta - it works fine on my desktop
[03:37] <gogeta> JPSman i sad bad not 0 lol
[03:37] <Pelo> nickrud, thanks , anything specified for feedback ?
[03:37] <dmsuperman> would changing that effect my graphics mode?
[03:37] <_Andrew> JPSman, How are you connecting your wifi?
[03:37] <nickrud> Pelo nope. It's about getting the exact right version, maybe that would help
[03:37] <nickrud> s/version/config/
[03:37] <_Andrew> JPSman, Like to a router?
[03:37] <Pelo> nickrud, thanks I'll have a look
[03:38] <prem> how to run windows games on ubuntu
[03:38] <JPSman> through a PCMI card
[03:38] <proteus> wine
[03:38] <Pelo> I'm gonna try rebooting
[03:38] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: I just rebooted. static is gone, but it started in low graphics mode :s
[03:38] <_Andrew> prem, You need wine.. www.winehq.org
[03:38] <JPSman> _Andrew a PCMI card - yeah a router
[03:38] <proteus> pcmcia?
[03:38] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, lol, that's not good, I don't think it's the line you added though because it's nothing to do with xorg.conf
[03:39] <dmsuperman> alright
[03:39] <dmsuperman> i know i've been wroking with xorg.conf
[03:39] <dmsuperman> but it worked, and i think i only did a backup since last reboot
[03:39] <dmsuperman> how can i compare files for differences?
[03:39] <Tack122> This is my first time doing anything with linux and I am having some trouble attempting to install Ubuntu on my computer in a dual boot configuration. The installer doesn't seem to want to recognise the IDE drive I want to install it on, though it does see the two other SATA drives. Help please?
[03:39] <nickrud> dmsuperman  diff -u file1 file2
[03:39] <dmsuperman> thanks :d
[03:39] <JPSman> It happens just as soon as I put in the WEP code
[03:40] <_Andrew> Tack122, Are you dual booting with windows?
[03:40] <Tack122> Yes Andrew.
[03:40] <dmsuperman> what's -u do?
[03:40] <_Andrew> Tack122, and windows is on the IDE drive?
[03:41] <Tack122> No it's on one of the two SATAs.
[03:41] <Pelo> that wasn'T it
[03:41]  * Pelo wonders if it might be his cheap speakers
[03:41] <xthegoat121x> I can't get the blur plugin to work on Compiz
[03:41] <_Andrew> Tack122, You mean when you get to the graphical install on the live CD it doesn't let you install on your IDE?
[03:42] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: How does it display the different data? Like, how can I see which lines are different for instance
[03:42] <JPSman> it happens alot
[03:42] <scottyL> Can I install both KDE and Hrm... KDE takes a while to install
[03:42] <scottyL> Oh, ignore the first part
[03:42] <dmsuperman> I don't quite understand the output, like I know what it is but I'm not sure how to tell exactly the differences
[03:42] <Tack122> Yes.
[03:42] <JPSman> is there any way that you guys know of to send files from one ubuntu to another?
[03:42] <wers> what's the official Ubuntu logo's font? :)
[03:43] <_Andrew> Tack122, ok first question, Is your IDE power cable plugged in?
[03:43] <JPSman> over wireless?
[03:43] <linkinxp_> !compiz
[03:43] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[03:43] <Tack122> It wouldn't work if it wasn't right?
[03:43] <Totem> !dual-boot
[03:43] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[03:43] <linkinxp_> hey guys whats the name of the compiz manager?
[03:43] <_Andrew> JPSman, apt-get install ssh  ... on one machine, on the other open a window and in the address bar type ssh://ipaddress
[03:43] <gogeta> JPSman err ftp
[03:44] <scottyL> Uh oh
[03:44] <Totem> !dual-boot | Tack122
[03:44] <ubotu> Tack122: please see above
[03:44] <scottyL> I'm installing KDE
[03:44] <dmsuperman> argh, i f'ing had xorg.conf working
[03:44] <gogeta> yea some fancy ssh commands can do it tp
[03:44] <scottyL> I'm seeing an error that's recurring
[03:44] <dubby> compiz manager = ccsm
[03:44] <dmsuperman> does anybody know a way to revert to a previous version of a file that wasn't backed up?
[03:44] <gogeta> Andrew ubuntu has ssh installed
[03:45] <scottyL> [12891.674630] bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43x_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed
[03:45] <scottyL> Uh.... is that bad?
[03:45] <gogeta> dmsuperman err gone forwever
[03:45] <dmsuperman> darn
[03:45] <dmsuperman> does xserver at least have like an error log
[03:45] <gogeta> dmsuperman unleess its stil laying in tmp
[03:46] <dmsuperman> so i know why it went into low graphics mode?
[03:46] <gogeta> dmsuperman you botched it lol
[03:46] <gogeta> dmsuperman we all do that thow
[03:46] <xthegoat121x> linkinxp_, I'm already in #compiz-fusion, no one's awake in there, apparently
[03:46] <dmsuperman> i guess so
[03:46] <dmsuperman> i have no clue how
[03:46] <_Andrew> dmsuperman is in xorg hell : )
[03:46] <gogeta> dmsuperman you can reconfigure it from scrach if you need
[03:46] <dmsuperman> i did that the other day
[03:46] <dmsuperman> took us hours to get xserver figured out
[03:47] <gogeta> dmsuperman using the wizerd
[03:47] <linkinxp_> xthegoat121x:  lol yes
[03:47] <gogeta> lol
[03:47] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, pastebin your xorg file
[03:47] <gogeta> dmsuperman must be some odd setup
[03:47] <Tack122> Ubotu, I wasn't able to get to where it would let me select the partitions available for resizing that is mentioned in the first link under manual partitioning.
[03:48] <_Andrew> Tack122, What would happen?
[03:48] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62900/
[03:48] <dmsuperman> good luck figuring it out, i have terrible luck with xserver :'(
[03:48] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, What did you edit?
[03:48] <seyacat> hy ubuntuers
[03:48] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, as in line numbers
[03:49] <dmsuperman> Which time?
[03:49] <scottyL> Ok, my installation of Gutsy Server seems to have hit a snag
[03:49] <scottyL> It's just giving that error over and over again
[03:49] <dmsuperman> I know I've changed virtual monitor, as well as horizsync
[03:49] <Tack122> When I got to the partitioning section and chose manual partitioning it didn't change much and there was a list of options that didn't really make much sense to me.
[03:49] <scottyL> bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed
[03:49] <dmsuperman> but other than that i've blindly followed instructions others have given me
[03:49] <scottyL> Well, not gutsy server, but KDE on top of Gutsy Server
[03:49] <dmsuperman> Pelo helped me quite a bit
[03:50] <noodles12> can someone help me getmy soudn working again? it's been working in fiesty/gutsy for a year. i used kdenlive last night and now sound doesn't work
[03:50] <seyacat> please apologize for offtopic question. What do you think its better to learn, Ruby on Rails or PHP cake, i dont have 0 experience i both, but i now something php, do you can give me a clue?
[03:50] <Pelo> dmsuperman, stop telling lies about me
[03:50] <gogeta> scottyL sounds like x is failing to load your video card
[03:50] <dmsuperman> haha
[03:50] <dmsuperman> oh hey
[03:50] <dmsuperman> Pelo, what guide was that
[03:50] <dmsuperman> that you gave me
[03:50] <scottyL> gogeta: What can I do about that?
[03:50] <FloodBot2> dmsuperman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <Pelo> dmsuperman, for two monitors ?
[03:50] <xzffw> hello
[03:50] <dmsuperman> i was able to get it mostly working with it
[03:50] <dmsuperman> yeah
[03:50] <xlriut> Hello, my monospace fonts look very weird. Is there a way to reinstall them? Thanks.
[03:50] <dmsuperman> i did a fresh config and followed the guide from there
[03:50] <Pelo> !dualhead | dmsuperman
[03:50] <ubotu> dmsuperman: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[03:51] <dmsuperman> thanks :d
[03:51] <dmsuperman> worst case we can always do that again
[03:51] <gogeta> scottyL well if you knoe your card model etc you can reconfgure x
[03:51] <scottyL> I... uh, don't
[03:51] <scottyL> But, the problem is that I'm in the middle of installing KDE
[03:51] <_Andrew> Tack122, You should select "automatically select continuous empty disk" (or whatever it's called) and see if it selects your IDE drive. If it's your sata then click back
[03:51] <gogeta> scottyL lol
[03:51] <scottyL> I'm using my brother's old PC
[03:52] <gogeta> scottyL compling?
[03:52] <Pelo> dmsuperman, the only reason I asked you to install from scratch, it taht is is much easier to start from a clean install where yo know where everthign is then it is to start hunting down problems that migth have been cause by eronious tweaking
[03:52] <linkinxp_> the Bug that kills HDD in ubuntu is still alive????
[03:52] <dmsuperman> aye
[03:52] <scottyL> gogeta: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean by that
[03:52] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, If you want to get dual monitor the best way (or the way I did it) was through nvidia-settings
[03:52] <gogeta> scottyL lol then your not
[03:52] <flame> about ubuntu8.04
[03:52] <dmsuperman> Andrew: It doesn't work for me :D great huh?
[03:53] <gogeta> scottyL oh i thought it was installed just not starting
[03:53] <shanepardue> How do I create a grub entry for a luks encrypted partition?
[03:53] <JPSman> _Andrew : So on the other machine I just ope firefox and type ssh://ipaddress-of-the-first-pc ?
[03:53] <Pelo> linkinxp_, there is no such bug , at best that was someting in heavily used laptop working as a server that would have shorten the live of a hdd by one month over 5 years
[03:53] <dmsuperman> it has no configurable settings whatsoever when i run it
[03:53] <Tack122> I will go give that a try, I don't recall that option but that doesn't mean it was not there considering how leaky my memory tends to be for that sort of thing. I shall be back soon, one way or another.
[03:53] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, You're the lucky winner : )
[03:53] <flame> who wuld like help me
[03:53] <scottyL> gogeta: Nope, last thing I typed was: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:53] <Pelo> flame, not until we know the probleem
[03:53] <linkinxp_> Pelo:  hummm ok :D thanks pelo
[03:53] <_Andrew> JPSman, no not firefox, a normal file window
[03:53] <dmsuperman> well, i'll try a few things
[03:53] <dmsuperman> see ya guys
[03:53] <gogeta> oh
[03:53] <Pelo> have fun dmsuperman
[03:53] <scottyL> gogeta: Now it's stuck in not being able to load bcm43xx_microcode5.fw
[03:53] <_Andrew> JPSman, file browser
[03:54] <Pelo> flame,  what is your issue ?
[03:54] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: thanks LOADS for the help in the speakers, i was near ready to pay 2x shipping to get a new set
[03:54] <Pelo> scottyL, if it is getting the packages online it might take a while
[03:54] <gogeta> scottyL lets see what that is
[03:54] <Pelo> flame, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[03:54] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: i'm as close to being an audiophile as you can be while still being poor and unable to afford good equipment :P
[03:54] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, lol no need, You might need to tweak that setting for 5.1 but at least the static is gone
[03:54] <dmsuperman> nope, 5.1 works already :D
[03:54] <GunbladeIV> hello
[03:54] <dmsuperman> i'm off
[03:54] <_Andrew> oh ok
[03:54] <gogeta> looks like a known issue
[03:54] <scottyL> Pelo: So, you're saying I should let it keep running for a while until the packages are found?
[03:55] <GunbladeIV> have anyone encounter with problem to play video?
[03:55] <scottyL> gogeta: Please, any help would be lovely :)
[03:55] <Pelo> scottyL, yes,  more or less
[03:55] <Pelo> scottyL,  did you update the package list first ?
[03:55] <gogeta> scottyL as i thought a video card error
[03:55] <GunbladeIV> i encounter a problem with one .. they said i must have DOM-X player which is i dont have
[03:55] <flame> about firefox 3BTEA5 locale chinese kit
[03:55] <_Andrew> JPSman, Did you get it?
[03:55] <GunbladeIV> is there anything i can make the video playable?
[03:55] <Pelo> flame, ask in #firefox
[03:55] <orionr> hey does anyone know the package off hand that i need to control the compz fusion settings?
[03:55] <flame> thank you
[03:56] <scottyL> Pelo: I followed the instructions here word for word, save different IP addresses put in and I didn't put in a nameserver: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/10/ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-lamp-server.html
[03:56] <Pelo> flame,  but be aware that FF 3 b is not full yet you may not bet every feature
[03:56] <Starnestommy> orionr: I think it might be compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:56] <scottyL> gogeta: WEll, if that's the case, what should I do?
[03:56] <Pelo> scottyL,  i'm not reading that ,  just tell me if you typed sudo apt-get update after editing the sources.list file ?
[03:56] <JPSman> _Andrew : I'm still trying :OD
[03:56] <scottyL> Oh, yes
[03:56] <scottyL> I did
[03:56] <rdg> how come from the Ubuntu installer, if I switch over to a console, plug in a memory stick .. dmesg tells me it's at /dev/sdc1  but then  mount tells me 'no such device'
[03:56] <gogeta> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/bcm43xx-microcode-bcm43xxmicrocode5.fw-not-available-or-load-failed-467164/
[03:57] <_Andrew> JPSman, do this.. click on places at the top, when the window opens there should be "Location:" type in there
[03:57] <Pelo> !ccim | orionr
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ccim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <orionr> Starnestommy: thanks i think that was it i couldnt think of the name off hand.
[03:57] <Pelo> hmm
[03:57] <gogeta> oh a wireless card
[03:57] <RainMakesMeWet> !compiz
[03:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[03:57] <Pelo> rdg, /dev/... is a device not a montpoing
[03:57] <scottyL> gogeta: Linksys has had no problem with my wireless card up until this point
[03:57] <Pelo> mountpoint
[03:57] <_Andrew> JPSman, If "location:" isn't there, click the icon with the pencil and paper and it should open
[03:57] <scottyL> gogeta: I'm sorry, LINUX
[03:58] <Pelo> rdg, nvm
[03:58] <rdg> Pelo - that's why my command is     mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /mnt/usb
[03:58] <scottyL> gogeta: It's downloaded everything so far perfectly
[03:58] <gogeta> scottyl well thats the issue
[03:58] <Pelo> rdg, did you create the mountpoint first ?  sudo mkdir /mnt/usb
[03:58] <rdg> yea
[03:58] <gogeta> scottyl might be do to you not using the live cd or something
[03:58] <_Andrew> JPSman, I meant click on Places and Home Folder by the way
[03:58] <scottyL> gogeta: Not using the live CD?
[03:59] <gogeta> scottyl ya ubuntus not grabbing th firmware nedded
[03:59] <Pelo> rdg, no idea then, but if you have ubuntu running , it should get automounted , so it might already be mounted to /media
[03:59] <rdg> Pelo - this is from the Ubuntu installer
[03:59] <GunbladeIV> no one knows the solution for my problem?
[03:59] <JPSman> _Andrew: This is uber frustrating.  I have to go between rooms because that's where the wireless signals are :O(
[03:59] <gogeta> scottyl the installer/live cd probly does
[03:59] <Pelo> rdg, live cd or cli ?
[03:59] <JPSman> _Andrew : no it didn't work
[03:59] <scottyL> gogeta: But, what should I do? Download the CD and then put that in? It's in the middle of installing
[03:59] <_Andrew> JPSman, One sec i'll upload a screenshot
[03:59] <Pelo> rdg, try chcking in /media ,  just have faith
[03:59] <rdg> it's supposed to be a beta 8.04 installer
[04:00] <scottyL> Or just do what Pelo had suggested and let it continue installing, hoping it finds it
[04:00] <rdg> there is no /media
[04:00] <rdg> this should be the 8.04 alternatives CD for ia_64
[04:00] <GunbladeIV> seem like ppl here dun have any solution
[04:00] <dmsuperman> alright, now i'm mad
[04:00] <GunbladeIV> brb try another channel
[04:00] <neur0n> Do you guys prefer Wine or Cedega?
[04:00] <Pelo> rdg,  there was an issue with usb drives in hardy , it's been corrected with thevery latest kernel update , the installer might still hvave the bad kernel
[04:00] <dmsuperman> 1: I just did another full reboot, and the static is back.
[04:00] <LSG> I can't unplug any of the two SATA drives from my sister's comp. and starting up anything because i get an error message. Does anyone have ANY idea?
[04:00] <gogeta> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/HOW_TO_install_the_Broadcom_bcm43xx_Driver_in_Debian_Linux_and_enable_WPA_Encryption
[04:01] <Pelo> rdg, in anycase you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:01] <dmsuperman> 2: nvidia-settings told me to run nvidia-xconfig as root and reboot. it overwrote my xorg.conf, but nvidia-settings still says i'm not using nvidia x settings
[04:01] <gogeta> scottyL oh that can be bad yea
[04:01] <shanepardue> How do I create a grub entry for a luks encrypted partition?
[04:01] <scottyL> gogeta: Indeed.
[04:02] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: And that line is still added to the alsa-base file :'(
[04:02] <Pelo> shanepardue, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html and google
[04:02] <scottyL> gogeta: Oh, no wait, I have a wireless card on there... but I'm connected via a wire at the moment
[04:02] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, oh no lol
[04:02] <shanepardue> Pelo: Thanks but no thanks..I've been on them both for the last couple hours
[04:03] <dmsuperman> why would it work for only 1 reboot?
[04:03] <_Andrew> JPSman, http://bayimg.com/eAJpPAABF <-- ssh://ipaddress
[04:03] <StPatrick> If i have a program that only works in windows, how Do i use it in Ubuntu 7.1?
[04:03] <dmsuperman> StPatrick: WINE
[04:03] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, Maybe it's your mic boost settings
[04:04] <Pelo> !wine | StPatrick
[04:04] <ubotu> StPatrick: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[04:04] <gogeta> scottyL well a server and live cd are no diffrent and if your tossing kde on it
[04:04] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, Check your volume control for mic boost and mute it
[04:04] <StPatrick> Pelo,  DO any windows programs work, or only compatible ones?
[04:04] <gogeta> scottyL why not just reformat the dam thing
[04:04] <gogeta> scottyL fix the botched net install
[04:04] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, You might need to go edit->preferences to find it
[04:05] <scottyL> gogeta: heh, installing KDE was the third thing I did after formatting it
[04:05] <Pelo> StPatrick, not all windows progs work in wine but most do now , and more in the future,  it the prog is not heavily graphics oriented like games  it will probably work well
[04:05] <JPSman> _Andrew: So I dont have to set up anything on PC1 for PC2 to connect to PC1?
[04:05] <neo_> hello all
[04:05] <Pelo> StPatrick, what't the program anyway ?
[04:05] <gogeta> scottyL lol
[04:05] <gogeta> scottyL yea using the reg live cd woulda saved you alot of time
[04:05] <scottyL> gogeta: Ok, so what I should do is restart with the CD in, format it exactly as I had before, but before installing KDE I do what the link you had sent to me tells me to do?
[04:05] <StPatrick> Pelo,  It's a download client that most peopl ewouldn't know anything about. Private stuff.
[04:05] <_Andrew> JPSman, just try that, it should bring up a login box to your other computer
[04:05] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: I couldn't find any mic boost, but i muted both the mic input and output
[04:06] <Pelo> StPatrick, well,  utorrent works very well on wine so I guess your's probably will as well
[04:06] <gogeta> scottyL just dl the reg kubuntu live cd
[04:06] <gogeta> scottyL install ubuntu w kde
[04:06] <StPatrick> Pelo,  It's not torrent oriented, but I can only hope.
[04:06] <aconbere> is there a way in ssh to set an identity file per user on a host?
[04:06] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, Does the sound stop when they're muted?
[04:06] <dmsuperman> no
[04:06] <scottyL> gogeta: So, I reformat it with the Live CD?
[04:06] <gogeta> scottyL arg
[04:07] <MacBook0621-07> would A APC backupups r900 work with ubuntu?
[04:07] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, I think it's defiantly your mic boost setting.
[04:07] <gogeta> scottyL dont bother with the server install
[04:07] <StPatrick> Pelo, Think you can hlep me out if i run into trouble
[04:07] <LSG> Does anybody know why i could be getting error messages when removing a slave SATA drive from a computer?
[04:07] <Pelo> StPatrick, I mean wine handles web apps,    install wine sudo apt-get install wine ,  run the program's installer with  wine /path/setup.exe ,  run the prog with wine /path/file.exe
[04:07] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: where's that at?
[04:07] <Pelo> StPatrick, ppl in #winehq can help you there
[04:07] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, Do you see a volume icon on your panel?
[04:07] <dmsuperman> argh, since my monitor settings are screwed i can't even see the whole sound prefs window
[04:07] <Pelo> LSG,  unmout it first
[04:07] <gogeta> scottyL thers no diffrence between ubuntu server and ubuntu with a gui other then 1 does not have a gui
[04:07] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: aye, i have that window open, but i don't see anything for mic boost in any of the tabs
[04:07] <MacBook0621-07> _Andrew: You would't happen to mean the out datesd at form factor?
[04:08] <Tack122> Andrew, I am in the live disc Ubuntu at the moment and when I choose "use the largest continuous free space it tells me "failed to partition the selected disk, this probably happened because the selected disk or free space is too small to be automatically partitioned.
[04:08] <scottyL> gogeta: Sorry, I'm very new at this and my real objective here is to install a server that I can SSH anywhere
[04:08] <owen1> can i create a server if my machine is connected with wireless?
[04:08] <gogeta> scottyL but you whant a gui right
[04:08] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, Go to edit->perferences
[04:08] <StPatrick> Pelo,  Thank s:)
[04:08] <LSG> Pelo: The thing is, it's not in my comp, but my sister's. The error messages are on startup, i don't even get to either Windows or Ubuntu
[04:08] <wers> what's the name of the font face of the Ubuntu logo?  :)
[04:08] <Pelo> owen1, probably it just sounds complicated
[04:08] <_Andrew> MacBook0621-07, huh?
[04:08] <Pelo> LSG, what's the msg ?
[04:08] <gogeta> scottyL otherwise you would not have ran the kde installer
[04:08] <LSG> Pelo: The thing just stops the startup process and tells me there's some problem with the slave drive.
[04:09] <scottyL> gogeta: Whoops, last one wasn't supposed to be a /msg
[04:09] <Pelo> LSG, it's probably looking for it from the bios and not finding it
[04:09] <_Andrew> Tack122, The IDE, does it already have something on there?
[04:09] <LSG> Pelo: I've messed around with computers for at least a decade and i've never seen this....
[04:09] <scottyL> gogeta: Yes, I do want a gui
[04:09] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: I checked every box in there, but there's no mic boost. I did mute everything relating the mics though
[04:09] <Tack122> No, the IDE is completely empty.
[04:09] <gogeta> key guys the desktop cd has lamp doesent it
[04:09] <Pelo> LSG, when aer you getting the msg ?
[04:09] <MacBook0621-07> _Andrew:  I looks like I might have to go back to xp  in order to use my APC backup UPS R900?
[04:09] <LSG> Pelo: Right after memory check
[04:10] <Pelo> scottyL, sudo apt-get install kde-core I beleive
[04:10] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, Then I don't know how to help you on that one #alsa would probably be where the experts hide
[04:10] <owen1> Pelo: all i want is a computer where i know it's address so i can send my backup files to.
[04:10] <LSG> Pelo: I miss the old BIOS's =(
[04:10] <Pelo> LSG, check the bios settings,  it might be listed as second boot device or someting
[04:10] <JPSman> _Andrew: I get "natulis cannot display ss://ipaddress"
[04:10] <scottyL> Pelo: Unfortunately, it's already installing with the command: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:10] <JPSman> _Andrew: er "natulis cannot display ssh://ipaddress"
[04:10] <Pelo> owen1, not the best person to ask
[04:10] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: Alright. Even unplugging the mic doesn't fix anything. And the static has moved to the right channel :'(
[04:11] <Pelo> scottyL,  just be patient then
[04:11] <scottyL> Pelo: But, it's stuck on the bcm43xx_microcode5.fw error
[04:11] <scottyL> Pelo: *nod*
[04:11] <gogeta> pelo i told him just to get a desktop cd save alot of issues
[04:11] <LSG> Pelo: Alright, i'll do that. I'll tell you how it works out =)
[04:11] <Pelo> scottyL, kill it ,
[04:11] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: But I'll check #alsa, after i get my x working again. what's the command to run the xorg.conf reconf script?
[04:11] <owen1> Pelo: ok. thanks
[04:11] <gogeta> hes installing that anyways
[04:11] <_Andrew> JPSman, It needs to be the ip address of the computer you're trying to connect to.. for example ssh://192.168.1.1
[04:11] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: something like sudo dpgk-reconfigure something
[04:11] <Pelo> gogeta,  it would save download that is sure
[04:12] <gogeta> pelo no point in server to desktop being desktop has the same tols
[04:12] <Pelo> LSG, no promisses, this is just the usual trouble shoting stuff,  , it gets stuck at the bios, look in the bios
[04:12] <_Andrew> sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver xorg I think..
[04:12] <scottyL> Pelo: Alright, just to make sure... you want me to kill the installation? How do I do that?
[04:13] <_Andrew> Tack122, I mean was it a windows partition?
[04:13] <gogeta> scottyL well get a desktop cd ready
[04:13] <LSG> Pelo: I know nothing's ever certain when troubleshooting. Especially if it's my sister's stuff, believe me.
[04:13] <Pelo> gogeta, the kubuntu desktop cd has a lot more packages in the install,  a sever install is pretty lean in comparison,  if he wants a server with just a gui on it , installing ther server and then just putting kde on top will take a lot less space then the full dekstop
[04:13] <_Andrew> Tack122, Is it an unformatted IDE disk?
[04:13] <lordleemo> gogeta: scottys problem sounds like restricted drivers m8
[04:13] <Pelo> scottyL, not quite sure,  change consol and sudo killall -9 apt ? maybe
[04:13] <abdoreza> hi all
[04:14] <gogeta> lordleemo yea but he tryed upgrading a server install and it died halfway
[04:14] <gogeta> lordleemo gonna be all messed up anyways
[04:14] <lordleemo> gogeta: nasty correct
[04:14] <Pelo> LSG,  I promissed myself I wouldn'T troubleshoot anyone else's hardware unless I was getting some out of it ,  my "syster" would have to forgo my help
[04:14] <LSG> abdoreza: Not to be rude or anything, but if you have a question, ask away and someone will pick it up.
[04:15] <_Andrew> Tack122, You could try unplugging the sata drives then installing, or you could try installing Ubuntu in windows, via Wubi on your windows partition.
[04:15] <Tack122> What exactly do you mean by windows partition?
[04:15] <Tack122> Seems I got disconnected there.
[04:15] <_Andrew> JPSman, How are you doing, is it working now?
[04:15] <JPSman> _Andrew: Is that the same kind of IP address that one would find at http://whatismyip.com ?
[04:15] <abdoreza> I have not question
[04:16] <gogeta> lordleemo better for him just to go desktop being that was pretty mutch what he was doing anywyas
[04:16] <gogeta> lordleemo vs repairing that mess
[04:16] <Tack122> Ah, very nice, it logged what I missed.
[04:16] <gogeta> lol
[04:16] <LSG> Pelo: Yeah, i only fix my sister's stuff because she has problems all the time. Literally. And i've come to find that she's not even causing them, i think she's a walking EMP bomb or something. It's creepy...
[04:16] <lordleemo> gogeta: esktop yes and if he wants lamp use synaptics
[04:16] <gogeta> yep
[04:16] <gogeta> 1 dl vs 300
[04:16] <_Andrew> JPSman, Not if you are behind a router, no.  type "ifconfig" in the commandline and then look for the address at "inet addr:"
[04:16] <gogeta> lol
[04:17] <Tack122> I'm not sure if it's unformatted, though I suspect it isn't because I did previously use it as storage space in windows.
[04:17] <_Andrew> JPSman, It's NOT the one which is "127.0.0.1"
[04:18] <kongove> hello
[04:18] <JPSman> _Andrew: k looks like 192.168.0.2
[04:18] <Pelo> there is no place lie 127.0.0.1
[04:18] <_Andrew> JPSman, That looks good
[04:18] <LSG> Pelo: Hahaha
[04:18] <_Andrew> Tack122, It might be that the installer thinks you're using that disk
[04:19] <Tack122> So, how do I make it not think that?
[04:19] <Kizumba> Good all !
[04:20] <Kizumba> someone can help me ?
[04:20] <Kizumba> '^^
[04:20] <Kizumba> do you help me?
[04:20] <kongove> what？
[04:20] <Pelo> Kizumba, just stagte your issue
[04:20] <Pelo> state
[04:20] <Kizumba> ¬¬.i have a big truble..
[04:20] <_Andrew> Tack122,  You should have the option to format the disks yourself..  Try selecting that option, look for your IDE disk, format it
[04:20] <gogeta> !ask
[04:20] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[04:20] <Kizumba> my modem is PCI
[04:20] <Kizumba> Conexant Chipset
[04:20] <Pelo> !who > gogeta
[04:21] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: I swear somebody is purposely just messing with me
[04:21] <Pelo> Kizumba, ask in one line
[04:21] <Kizumba> but...the driver has limited de velocity in 14Kb/s :S
[04:21] <JPSman_> Hey _Andrew: This is JPSman
[04:21] <_Andrew> dmsuperman, You just won the big prize
[04:21] <Tack122> After choosing manual it only shows the two SATAs as before.
[04:21] <dmsuperman> _Andrew: another reboot, and the static is now gone, but the xserver is still screwed, even when restoring from a working backup
[04:21] <Pelo> Kizumba, what is your native language ?
[04:21] <gogeta> Kizumba sucks doesent it
[04:21] <Kizumba> Pelo:  but...the driver has limited de velocity in 14Kb/s :S ..do you know th nd drive in version...ah..."full" ?...
[04:21] <Kizumba> Pelo: Portuguese '^^ sorry
[04:21] <_Andrew> JPSman, Working?
[04:21] <Kizumba> ..¬¬..
[04:21] <_Andrew> JPSman_, Working?
[04:21] <Pelo> !pr | Kizumba
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <Pelo> !pt | Kizumba
[04:22] <ubotu> Kizumba: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[04:22] <gogeta> Pelo hes talking abought a linmodem
[04:22] <Pelo> Kizumba, that might be better for you
[04:22] <kindofabuzz> is there anyway to update /et/hosts with a dynamic ip?
[04:22] <Kizumba> Pelo: ....yeap.!..^^...thanks..
[04:22] <Pelo> gogeta, ifyou know how to hlep him please jump in
[04:22] <JPSman_> _Andrew: no it still said "Natulis cannot display ssh://192.168.0.2
[04:22] <JPSman_> _Andrew: "Try another viewer"
[04:22] <gogeta> Kizumba not mutch help at least anything i can say to fix that
[04:23] <Kizumba> gogeta ?
[04:23] <_Andrew> JPSman, Did you install (apt-get install ssh ) on 192.168.0.2 ?
[04:23] <gogeta> Kizumba they charge for those drivers
[04:23] <JPSman_> yes
[04:23] <kernfreak> muahahahah
[04:24] <bluefoxx> i know this is #ubuntu, but seeing as everyone in ##windows is completely silent, i was wondering if anyone knows what i gotta get to make dvds read and play in win98se. i have the dvd drive allready...
[04:24] <Kizumba> gogeta: but...on site de Corp..¬¬...take ..i have PAY !!! for Drive "full"
[04:24] <Kizumba> :S
[04:24] <_Andrew> JPSman_,  System->Admin->Services -> find "Remote Secure Shell" ... is it ticked?
[04:24] <dmsuperman> bluefoxx: just give up :D
[04:24] <dmsuperman> :P
[04:24] <gogeta> Kizumba yep best bet buy a new modem
[04:25] <_Andrew> JPSman_,  That is "Remote Shell Server" ***
[04:25] <Kizumba> gogeta: my actual drive of modem ...has limited de velocity in 14Kb/s...how make de "upgrade" in velo ?
[04:25] <StPatrick> Pelo,  Dude I have to install microsoft .net framework for this to work, am i going to be able to do that?
[04:25] <zcat[1]> bluefoxx: 'a miracle' -- you can hardly do squat in 98 these days
[04:25] <JPSman> _Andrew: Yes it is
[04:25] <Kizumba> gogeta ...=/...yeap.....so thanks '^^..
[04:25] <bluefoxx> dmsuperman: im making a box for my little sister, whos better off in windows for now. she asked if i could make it watch movies, i remembered doing that on my old 98 box[which this is designed off of, but better] so i said sure
[04:25] <StPatrick> Pelo, Or am i screwed?
[04:26] <gogeta> Pelo lol i have one of those modems to :-(
[04:26] <linuxmonger> Okay, I'm stymied, and I can't find this in any FAQ - if I open an xterm (or gnome-terminal) and type echo $LINES $COLUMNS, I get the expected 25 80. If I run this in a script from the same xterm, I get nothing. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62901/
[04:26] <Pelo> StPatrick, well,  not sure,  does the installer cd include .net ? you might start installing that if there is a seperate isntaller for it , but generaly speakign those are problematic,  try asking in #winehq , they will be better able to hlep
[04:26] <JPSman> _Andrew: Should I apt-get install ssh on the PC2?
[04:26] <dmsuperman> !dualhead
[04:26] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[04:26] <dmsuperman> crap
[04:26] <dmsuperman> eh
[04:26] <bluefoxx> i had a copy of 98 laying around, and the parts were not enough for xp, but more than good for 98 so i built her a 98 box[rather than pirate xp]
[04:27] <dmsuperman> anybody know how to open links in irssi into lynx?
[04:27] <_Andrew> JPSman, Go to the command line and type the same ssh://192.168.0.2
[04:27] <dmsuperman> without typing?
[04:27] <dubby> yes..
[04:27] <gogeta> bluefoxx man upgrade
[04:27] <zcat[1]> bluefoxx: considered puppy linux or dsl?
[04:27] <_Andrew> JPSman, I mean "ssh 192.168.0.2"
[04:27] <zcat[1]> or perhaps even xubuntu (although that's still pretty heavy)
[04:27] <bluefoxx> zcat: my sister is 10, incapable of figuring out linux. i tried to teach it to her. she got annoyed and threw a fit.
[04:28] <gogeta> or a new pc
[04:28] <_Andrew> JPSman, If that doesn't work install it on the other machine too and try again
[04:28] <bluefoxx> ubuntu would run fine on it, if not for the lack of hard disk space
[04:28] <zcat[1]> bluefoxx: my daughter was using linux when she was 4, but whatever
[04:28] <bluefoxx> and she wants to play old pc/macos9x games on it too
[04:28] <gogeta> bluefoxx new pc with vistcrap
[04:28] <kongove> Did every release have his end of life?
[04:29] <gogeta> bluefoxx she will run to linux after that
[04:29] <Seeker`> kongove: there is an end of life date for every release of ubuntu - some of the older releases are no longer supported
[04:29] <bluefoxx> zcat: exactly. your daughtor. my sister is not someone i see alot[i moved out about a year ago, she comes and visits once a month or so]
[04:29] <gort42> anybody have any experience with restore-backup...thinking about using it was hoping to get some opinions about it
[04:29] <bluefoxx> gageta: no $$ which is why i recycled my old parts
[04:29] <Pelo> kongove, every release will have there end of life,  regulare 18 months,  LTS 3-4 years,  I do'T quite remember
[04:30] <Tack122> *poke*
[04:30] <gogeta> bluefoxx :-(  same boat hear
[04:30] <kongove> server is five years.
[04:30] <Flannel> Pelo, kongove, regular releases are (for Desktop) 18 months, and LTS are 3 years (on desktop)
[04:30] <gogeta> bluefoxx my setup is a bare kit with parts striped off my dead instell
[04:30] <bluefoxx> so noone here remembers what magical drivers and mythical codecs i need for dvds in win 98?
[04:30] <dubby> To anyone, I was wondering if anyone knew a packet i can install to make my computer an authentication gateway.
[04:30] <zcat[1]> bluefoxx: you could try vlc
[04:30] <Pelo> bluefoxx, ask in ##windows
[04:30] <bluefoxx> the box itself is decent enough
[04:30] <Flannel> bluefoxx: If you'd have any luck, it'd be in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.
[04:31] <lordleemo> bluefoxx: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q188513/
[04:31] <bluefoxx> zcat: i tried, it failed to install
[04:31] <gogeta> bluefoxx i had a win95 dvd player
[04:31] <gogeta> bluefoxx but it used a hardware mpeg2 card hehe a real oldy
[04:31] <abdoreza> ubuntu 8.04 12 days
[04:31] <abdoreza> I cannt wait
[04:32] <bluefoxx> gogeta: yea i recall watching some movie at the neboors pc when i lived wear i used to live :\
[04:32] <_Andrew> Tack122, So it still doesn't show the IDE even after you unplugged the sata and made sure the power was in the IDE?
[04:32] <JPSman> _Andrew: hrm nope.  Again   Nautilus cannot display "ssh://192.168.0.2" Please select another viewer and try again.
[04:32] <Tack122> No, I haven't unplugged the SATAs...
[04:32] <bluefoxx> i spent all afternoon chasing lost webpages and i figured ide ask on chat since theres biound to be some windows useres in here...
[04:33] <Tack122> Hmm, am I able to do that while the computer is running, safely?
[04:33] <Flannel> Tack122: no
[04:33] <_Andrew> JPSman, Did you type "ssh 192.168.0.2" no quotes into the commandline ?
[04:33] <gogeta> bluefoxx google is your frend
[04:34] <JPSman> _Andrew:  Couldn't find /ssh  192.168.0.2     please check spelling and try again
[04:35] <TimOBeee> hey guys
[04:35] <bluefoxx> JPSman: what are you trying to do?
[04:35] <TimOBeee> got some questions
[04:35] <TimOBeee> think u could help?
[04:35] <Tack122> Alright then, going to power down, disconnect the 2 SATAs then come back after checking on what happens during install.
[04:35] <Dgro> Hi
[04:35] <Pelo> TimOBeee, just ask
[04:35] <JPSman> Bluefoxx: trying to share files between two ubuntu's that have wireless
[04:35] <TimOBeee> k
[04:35] <dmsuperman> alright
[04:35] <TimOBeee> well i bought a new HP the other day
[04:35] <dmsuperman> I just changed xorg.conf
[04:36] <dmsuperman> and it made it go into low settings mode
[04:36] <dmsuperman> I ran default
[04:36] <dmsuperman> and I had it just fine, 1280x1024 single monitor
[04:36] <dmsuperman> I added 2 sections
[04:36] <Flannel> !enter | dmsuperman
[04:36] <ubotu> dmsuperman: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:36] <dmsuperman> and now it's low settings
[04:36] <_Andrew> JPSman, You typed it wrong no /
[04:36] <CloudFX> how do u delete a folder in /etc?
[04:36] <JPSman> _Andrew: I didn't type  /
[04:36] <Flannel> CloudFX: what folder are you looking to delete?
[04:37] <_Andrew> bluefoxx, He's trying to share files between two ubuntu boxes in nautilus but it's not working
[04:37] <TimOBeee> i was checking out a computer online that looked nice so i went to circuit city thinking i was buying the same one which i didnt and i later realized it 16 days after purchase
[04:37] <CloudFX> Flannel: a folder on the root of /etc
[04:37] <Flannel> CloudFX: What for?  Which folder is it?
[04:37] <TimOBeee> its a decent computer but not for what im doing
[04:37] <_Andrew> JPSman, What happens when you just type ssh ?
[04:38] <HelpMe> CloudFX: Flannel wants  to know  so theres no chance ull screw ur computer because he told you how
[04:38] <gogeta> bluefoxx seems vl has unoffical win98 support
[04:38] <CloudFX> Flannel: It's for VMWare.  The command line window accidentally closed during installation, and when I try to run it again it tells me to reinstall
[04:38] <dmsuperman> http://pastebin.com/m4601011
[04:38] <bluefoxx> _andrew: ah. ive never gotten file sharing to work...
[04:38] <gogeta> bluefoxx vlc and i knoe that hadels dvd
[04:38] <JPSman> _Andrew:  Couldn't find "/ssh"
[04:38] <dmsuperman> Those are the only 2 sections I added to xorg.conf
[04:38] <flea> lol
[04:38] <TimOBeee> i have an intel 2.0 ghz processor and i want to play games that require a faster processor should i buy a new motherboard then an amd faster processor intels are very expensive
[04:38] <dmsuperman> anybody have a clue why that causes it to go into low ssettings mode?
[04:38] <Oscar> no kittah languaje please.
[04:38] <TimOBeee> or overclock my pentium or what?
[04:38] <bluefoxx> gogeta: i tried vlc and it failed to install...
[04:38] <Flannel> CloudFX: Was this from a package?
[04:39]  * jharr waves
[04:39] <_Andrew> JPSman,  you don't have ssh installed.. did you apt-get install ssh ?
[04:39] <bluefoxx> TimOBeee: whats your current CPU?
[04:39] <flea> TimOBeee, toms hardware does good reviews on that stuff
[04:39] <Oscar> spanis?
[04:39] <owen1> how to remove enlightment and replace with gnome?
[04:39] <CloudFX> Flannel:  it was this one http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
[04:39] <Flannel> !es | Oscar
[04:39] <ubotu> Oscar: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:39] <Rolcol> Hi, what's a good open source video editor?
[04:40] <LetterRip> hi since upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04 beta I've been unable to access my dvd drive
[04:40] <HelpMe> Rolcol: vlc
[04:40] <JPSman> yes
[04:40] <TimOBeee> to tell you the truth iam just getting into computers and i know a little bit about the processors and and stuff but i dont know what cpu is
[04:40] <JPSman> _Andrew:  yes I get this
[04:40] <LetterRip> any suggestions for resolving this?
[04:40] <Rolcol> helpme, Editor, not player
[04:40] <_Andrew> Rolcol, Try AviDemux
[04:40] <Flannel> CloudFX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware has instructions on VMWare, I'm not familiar with others.
[04:40] <bluefoxx> TimOBeee: its the processor
[04:40] <HelpMe> Rolcol, oh sorry..
[04:40] <TimOBeee> ok
[04:40] <robert___1111> on the topic of video... why does vlc play mpegs but mplayer and others don't on my ubuntu
[04:40] <Flannel> LetterRip: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks
[04:40] <LetterRip> doing a ls /dev doesn't show hda
[04:40] <gogeta> bluefoxx http://www.cdr-zone.com/software/media_players/media_player_classic_for_windows_98-me.html
[04:40] <Rolcol> _Andrew, is it in Ubuntu's repositories?
[04:40] <TimOBeee> one moment
[04:40] <JPSman> _Andrew:  ssh is already the newest version.  The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[04:40] <JPSman>   libxine1-x libxcb-xv0 libxcb1 ethereal-common libxcb-shape0 libxine1-gnome
[04:40] <JPSman>   libjasper-1.701-1 libxcb-shm0 linux-source-2.6.15 libxine1-console libxine1
[04:40] <_Andrew> Rolcol, it is but the one from getdeb.net is newer
[04:41] <CloudFX> Flannel: I can't install the one in Add/Remove...
[04:41] <_Andrew> JPSman, ok one sec
[04:41] <gogeta> :P
[04:41] <bluefoxx> TimOBeee: ive been overclocking mine for the past year to avoid buying a new one. cooling and a good mainboard are what i reccomend[asrock is good for overclocking].
[04:41] <owen1> how to remove enlightment and replace with gnome?
[04:41] <TimOBeee> intel pentium dual cpu e2180 @ 2.0 Ghz
[04:41] <TimOBeee> i dont even know if thats decent
[04:41] <gogeta>  bluefoxx man your cheaper then me
[04:42] <dmsuperman> http://pastebin.com/m1d1e846c <-- That's my xorg.conf, it worked before I added the highlighted sections (it actually worked until I added the Layout section, the Xinerama = true section still worked)
[04:42] <gogeta> bluefoxx at least i change my main bord and prosser
[04:42] <robert___1111> i have to go to terminal and run sudo virtualbox... how do i change virtualbox so that it runs with admin privileges?
[04:42] <Flannel> CloudFX: Alright, well, since its not a package, I suppose there's probably no harm.  Just be extremely careful when typing this in.  sudo rm -rf /etc/vmware (or whatever)  Make sure there's no space in between any of the slashes or anything.
[04:42] <dmsuperman> Now it boots into low-settings mode, anybody have a clue why?
[04:42] <Rolcol> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2008/04/11/west.uk.rick.rolling.itn
[04:42] <bluefoxx> TimOBeee: dual is good enough for any current games :) better than mine[2.93 ghz celeron d uped to 3.3 ghz]
[04:42] <Rolcol> wrong channel!
[04:42] <Rolcol> sorry!
[04:42] <TimOBeee> can u overclock a penitum
[04:42] <TimOBeee> pentium**
[04:42] <CloudFX> CloudFX: Thanks.  I've already deleted the actual files, but was unable to figure out how to get rid of the folder
[04:42] <bluefoxx> TimOBeee: yes
[04:42] <jharr> For some reason, hot-plug events (plugging in a camera, usb drive) don't automatically mount & pop up nautilus anymore. Any quick fixes for this? I installed as a cli and then installed the ubuntu-desktop package if that makes a diff.
[04:43] <_Andrew> JPSman, apt-get install openssh-client openssh-server
[04:43] <TimOBeee> i dont think i could do that myself
[04:43] <bluefoxx> TimOBeee: if the mobo supports overclocking
[04:43] <Oscar> Oh hai
[04:43] <TimOBeee> how do i find this out
[04:43] <gort42> anybody have any experience with restore-backup...thinking about using it was hoping to get some opinions about it
[04:43] <bluefoxx> TimOBeee: google, or ##hardware
[04:43] <pr0nGuy> Does anyone know how to make a dvd where all video files play continuously on k3b?
[04:43] <TimOBeee> my hardware number?
[04:43] <bluefoxx> gort42: i saw a good how-to on that on the forums
[04:44] <TimOBeee> is there a way to privately chat this is difficult
[04:44] <dmsuperman> TimOBeee: irc://irc.gamesurge.net #hardware is an excellent channel for such questions
[04:44] <dubby> ﻿anyone know a way to make a linux server act as a gateway device, I wish to make people in my local area network authenticate to my computer before getting access to the internet
[04:44] <bluefoxx> TimOBeee: no, thats a chatroom for hardware support. type in /join ##hardware and hit enter
[04:44] <gort42> bluefoxx:  I know about that how-to.  just want to know if folks like the application or not
[04:44] <JPSman> _Andrew:  openssh-client is already the newest version
[04:44] <_Andrew> jharr, System->Preferences->Removable Drives and Media->Storage   should be a tick box there to make it pop up
[04:44] <TimOBeee> type it in google?
[04:44] <JPSman> _Andrew:  openssh-server is already the newest version
[04:44] <dmsuperman> TimOBeee: Type it right into your irc text box
[04:44] <JPSman> _Andrew:  openssh-server set to manual installed
[04:44] <Stroganoff> TimOBeee: http://www.compunamics.com/overclocking.htm
[04:44] <bluefoxx> tim: no type in /join ##hardware and ask there
[04:45] <dmsuperman> !irc | TimOBeee
[04:45] <ubotu> TimOBeee: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[04:45] <owen1> how to remove enlightment and replace with gnome?
[04:45] <_Andrew> JPSman, The ip address your typing in.. it isn't the one from the machine you are using is it? It's from the other machine right?
[04:45] <JPSman> _Andrew: that is correct
[04:45] <TimOBeee> didnt do anything
[04:45] <jharr> _Andrew: thx
[04:45] <k1dugar> hello,  what command is used to dump firmware of any hardware in ubuntu. I want to get firmware dump of my S1 MP4 Player
[04:46] <_Andrew> JPSman,  Is openssh-server installed on the machine you're trying to connect to.. it should be, there shouldn't be a problem..
[04:46] <TimOBeee> bluefox?
[04:46] <mattias> hi any great software for seeing online tv programs
[04:46] <nickrud> owen1 install ubuntu-desktop to install gnome ; you can start it with options->session on the login screen. Removing enlightenment? Not sure, but you can run gnome with enlightenment still installed without problems
[04:46] <_Andrew> mattias, You mean with a TV card?
[04:47] <mattias> no from the internet
[04:47] <owen1> nickrud: thanks
[04:47] <bluefoxx> TimOBeee: you should have another window or tab open with a new room and group oof people in it now
[04:47] <mattias> _Andrew:  no see tv from the internet like if possible ...
[04:48] <_Andrew> mattias, You could try vlc
[04:48] <TimOBeee> the hardware one?
[04:48] <bittin> depends off what codec the internet tv has?
[04:48] <TimOBeee> bluefoxx i sent u a private thing on ur channel
[04:48] <chris42050707> hi i have a slight problem im running into with my optical drives could some one hjelp me out?
[04:49] <k1dugar> can someone help me out. what command is used to dump firmware of any hardware in ubuntu. I want to get firmware dump of my S1 MP4 Player
[04:50] <gort42> lshw
[04:50] <mattias> _Andrew:  so no open source program that have reprogrammed tv channels like on the cable tv, style to see discovery channel and so on ,,, ??,I use Vlc today to see movies that i have but is there any streaming tv software if you understad what i mean ...
[04:50] <im-a-n00b> hey all... i've got an ati question... will be upgrading to hardy once its released and im doing a bit of research before hand... are the drivers in the repos now the same as the ati ones you get from the site or are they different?
[04:50] <nickrud> k1dugar that's gonna depend on the hardware, you'd probably need a special purpose program to do that
[04:50] <Flannel> im-a-n00b: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy questions, thanks
[04:51] <k1dugar> thanks gort42
[04:51] <im-a-n00b> Flannel: k thanks :)
[04:51] <gort42> k1dugar: welcome
[04:51] <_Andrew> mattias, I think there is one called democracy player
[04:51] <_Andrew> mattias, apart from that, no idea
[04:51] <nickrud> mattias pick a channel, and tell us the url so we can say
[04:51] <chris42050707> okay any one know if i reflash my asus dwr-1608p dvd-w/wr it would work with gibben?
[04:51] <pr0nGuy> can someone tell me what "multisession mode" means in k3b?
[04:52] <flyback> it;s kijnda like partitions in a way
[04:52] <flyback> oh and while I am here
[04:52] <chris42050707> or do you think that its still unsupported by linux?
[04:52] <mattias> _Andrew:  thank you , i will check that one, finally andrew how can i tell in my ubuntu if i am using genomme or kde ???
[04:53] <chris42050707> doesn't ubuntu generally use gnome?
[04:53] <JPSman> _Andrew: Do you know of any other programs that can transfer alot of files over the internet on linux?
[04:53] <nickrud> mattias democracy player was renamed, it's now called miro
[04:53] <flyback> CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY 7.0X WHATEVER IT IS SHIPS WITH A REMOTE DESKTOP SERVER THAT IS SO FREAKING BROKEN I COUDLN'T WIPE MY ASS WITH IT
[04:53] <mattias> thank you
[04:53] <chris42050707> except for the edition that are labeled as not?
[04:53] <nickrud> 1
[04:53]  * flyback does expect an anwer ever
[04:53] <nickrud> !caps | flyback
[04:53] <ubotu> flyback: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:53] <_Andrew> mattias, um... by looking at the screen?
[04:53] <flyback> does not
[04:54] <flyback> freaking thijng is more unstable than I am
[04:54] <flyback> that's pathetic
[04:54] <flyback> you fail
[04:54] <chris42050707> lol
[04:54] <_Andrew> JPSman, Try clicking on a file and going to "share file"
[04:54] <nickrud> flyback so pick another and use it.
[04:54] <gort42> someones cranky
[04:54] <mattias> _Andrew: how can i tell i think i am using genomme but i anm not sure ?
[04:54] <chris42050707> wow optical drives semi suck at this point....
[04:54] <flyback> kinda hard when that's the only thing on the live cd :P
[04:54] <JPSman> k
[04:54] <LiraNuna> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080411-vistas-uac-security-prompt-was-designed-to-annoy-you.html
[04:54] <_Andrew> JPSman, on the other computer go to Places->Network
[04:54] <gort42> mattias:did you load ubuntu or kubuntu
[04:55] <mandiri> wahyu
[04:55] <_Andrew> _Andrew, If you installed Ubuntu it's gnome, if its Kubuntu you installed it's KDE, normally you'll know if all your prgorams begin with K
[04:55] <gort42> mattias: by defualt ubuntu is gnome
[04:55] <nickrud> LiraNuna they might be interested in that on -offtopic, but not here
[04:55] <_Andrew> Woops, sent to myself
[04:56] <mattias> gort42: ubuntu 7.10, to be hones i did not have much of a choicr i think when i downloaded ubuntu, hmmm i think, do not remeber for sure ...
[04:56] <nickrud> mattias try system, see if it says about gnome :)
[04:56] <flyback> then again
[04:56] <ogre> im trying to install vmware-workstation and i keep getting these errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62902/ any suggestion?
[04:56] <mattias> thaks everybody ...
[04:56] <capiCrimm> my system icons are 64x64, which the system resizes. But when I try and use them with a launcher they don't resize. How can I have the system resize them?
[04:56] <mattias> thanks everybody ...
[04:56] <flyback> baseing your remote tool on vnc is like walking around nakked in prison
[04:56] <flyback> vnc seems to be one big FAIL
[04:56] <_Andrew> mattias, System->About Gnome   ... You have gnome
[04:56] <chris42050707> any body in here a linux genius.... or at least smarter than i am about it?  trust me it wouldn't take much lol
[04:56] <flyback> in the 5+ yrs I Have played with it over the yrs in many os's
[04:57] <bittin> chris42050707: yea :P
[04:57] <flyback> just seems to be 1 big bug
[04:57] <chris42050707> lol
[04:57] <mattias> _Andrew: that was easy to tell, thanks :)
[04:57] <CloudFX> how do i get a C++ compiler
[04:57] <gort42> flyback: never had an issue with VNC... perhaps you could be more specific with your particular issue
[04:57] <_Andrew> CloudFX, gcc
[04:57] <Tack122> Back once again, this time with the SATA's both disconnected. In the guided section it shows a 327.7 kB disk, and nothing else. In manual there is a single entry and the only data it gives me is under the "device" section and there it shows "/dev/sda"
[04:57] <flyback> too many to list
[04:57] <nickrud> CloudFX install build-essential
[04:57] <chris42050707> bittin: you know about optical drive support with ubuntu 7.10?
[04:57] <flyback> random glitches the same ones over the yrs
[04:57] <_Andrew> CloudFX, if you have gcc then you have a c++ compiler
[04:57] <CloudFX> thanks
[04:58] <bittin> chris42050707: nah :P
[04:58] <Tack122> I got disconnected again...
[04:58] <flyback> number #1 bug I have run into is
[04:58] <chris42050707> bittin:  damn   im trying to figure out why it ain't working....  crap... lol
[04:58] <nickrud> chris062689 not sure what your issue is;  try   tail -f /var/log/syslog  , and load a cd. You'll get some messages, if you're lucky they'll be understandable
[04:59] <flyback> if I tap into a livecd box running remote desktop feature of gnome
[04:59] <flyback> many times I lose the keyboard even at the local console
[04:59] <_Andrew> Tack122, /dev/sda I believe is your old IDE disk
[04:59] <flyback> yeah the gnome guys must really love working with microsoft as much as they say
[04:59] <flyback> CAUSE THEIR CODE IS JUST AS FREAKING BROKEN
[04:59] <SlicerDicer> is there anyway to get ubuntu to scan for new modules?
[04:59] <chris42050707> nickrud: thanks ill try that...  would it work if the drive isn't even acknowledged to be in the system by ubuntu?
[04:59] <SlicerDicer> I just added some and I find it a bit excessive to have to reboot to get them to show up
[05:00] <capiCrimm> how can I have the system control a launcher icons size?
[05:00] <mattias> guys  iwould recommend joost but i do not know if it is open to everybody, the last time i used Joost is was for windows and mac but maybe something in the future for unix i hope really good quality but for me in Mexico there is not to many good channels to see at this moment with it ...
[05:00] <nickrud> flyback if you need to vent about it, try #ubuntu-offtopic .
[05:00] <Tack122> When I choose it and pick forward it tells me "no root file system defined"
[05:00] <flyback> thx :)
[05:00] <flyback> seriously
[05:00] <flyback> thx :)
[05:00] <nickrud> chris062689 the kernel should say something about the cd. If you get no messages, that's a message ;)
[05:00] <k1dugar> ﻿gort42: that's not to get firmware dump
[05:00] <chris42050707> sweet
[05:00] <flyback> now what's this about a old disk
[05:00] <_Andrew> Tack122, Can you choose that one to automatically reformat?
[05:00] <flyback> someone having hw problems?
[05:01] <gort42> k1dugar
[05:01] <abdoreza> bye all
[05:01] <mattias> anybody uses deluge bittorrent here ???
[05:01] <gort42> k1dugar: lemme check something else out
[05:01] <mattias> anybody knows if the block list works on the deluge bittorrent
[05:01] <Tack122> No, the olny one available for the guided section is the 327 kB one, and when I attempt to choose it, it tells me that it's to small.
[05:02] <robert___1111> I did an install of firefox 3. beta4 and now I can't remove it and I want to reinstall firefox 2
[05:02] <_Andrew> mattias, You can use azureus with a plugin called safe peer
[05:02] <nickrud> robert___1111 how'd you install the beta?
[05:03] <chris42050707> welll that  sent me zero messages  through syslog
[05:03] <robert___1111> it was a tar file from the site
[05:03] <gort42> k1dugar: what component of your system are you trying to get the firmware of
[05:03] <nickrud> flyback chris062689 is the guy having the problems with hardware, over my head
[05:03] <dmsuperman> where is the best place to get xserver specific help?
[05:03] <flyback> ok chris
[05:03] <_Andrew> robert___1111, What do you mean you can't uninstall it? It's just a folder you put somewhere and run from
[05:03] <flyback> before I vent my skull to relieve the pressure
[05:03] <nickrud> robert___1111 then all you should have to do is delete it the folder you untarred it to
[05:03] <flyback> what's going on
[05:04] <mattias> _Andrew: ok but as i remeber azureus the interface is not that easy to handle like deluge if i am not misstaken ... or am i ???, i think azureus is missing an interface to see downlaod progress of movies  ...
[05:04] <chris42050707> flyback: i tried the  tail -f /var/log/syslog then insert a disk thing and it gave no response at all
[05:04] <k1dugar> gort42: usb disk type "S1 MP4 Player"
[05:04] <flyback> uhh
[05:04] <flyback> what do you mean
[05:04] <flyback> what were you trying to do
[05:04] <chris42050707> im working with trying to get my asus dwr-1608p dvd-r-rw working here and having no luck
[05:04] <_Andrew> mattias, It's got that, try it out might like it might not..
[05:04] <Tack122> Mattias, azureus lets you see the progress of your downloads.
[05:05] <mattias> _Andrew:  ok, thank you
[05:05] <gort42> k1dugar: OIC... whats the actual model of the device
[05:05] <flyback> ah
[05:05] <robert___1111> i have folders for mozilla all over the place...in my lib64 folder i have one for mozilla one for mozilla-firefox and one for firefox
[05:06] <robert___1111> is it safe to just delete all of these
[05:06] <flyback> what is it doing or not
[05:06] <nickrud> robert___1111 no
[05:06] <mattias> To my experiance with deluge bottorrent uptil today the prgoram is not stable have a lots of glitches but if i am keeping my functions to a basic meaning minimum it can work ...
[05:06] <chris42050707> flyback: see bios recognizes it as an optical device... but its not recognized by linux at all it seems
[05:06] <mattias> and have a lots of features ...
[05:06] <nickrud> robert___1111 exactly what did you do when you installed it?  just untar it in your home directory?
[05:06] <k1dugar> gort42: its an V-tec 2GB MP4 palyer S1 MP4 player Wilson co ltd.
[05:06] <flyback> hmm
[05:07] <mattias> anyone else using azureus have anything to say about it ?
[05:07]  * flyback rolls up his sleeves
[05:07] <robert___1111> i might have done it through terminal--- i can't remember exactly-still new to ubuntu
[05:07] <flyback> besides this is more fun than going back to shit more blood
[05:07] <SlicerDicer> its nice mattias but i also use ktorrent for just simple useage
[05:07] <Sam827> what is azureus
[05:07] <nickrud> robert___1111  try ls $HOME , do you see a firefox folder?
[05:07] <Tack122> I personally suggest disabling the vuze section of the interface, that's about it.
[05:08] <mattias> azureus is a flie sharing program bittorrent or not i am not sure ...
[05:08] <SlicerDicer> Sam827: torrent stuffs
[05:08] <zcat[1]> robert___1111: would you delete all the msie files around the place in Windows?
[05:08] <mattias> sorry file sharing program
[05:08] <Sam827> cool
[05:08] <robert___1111> no not in ls $home
[05:08] <Sam827> y not just use BitTorrent
[05:08] <gugox> hi.. i need to compile a program with libnet1.0, but the version installed from the package is libnet1.1... is there a way to compile this program without having to uninstall libnet1.1?
[05:08] <robert___1111> in windows..
[05:08] <nickrud> robert___1111 did you use caps with $HOME ?
[05:08] <robert___1111> yes
[05:08] <xteven> Okay, I really cannot find this setting... Whenever I leave my laptop alone for about 20seconds the brightness goes all the way down. How do I make this stop?
[05:08] <SlicerDicer> Sam827: azureus is a client to download torrents just like any other
[05:08] <chris42050707> lol flyback a really head scratcher huh? and to kick that in the but 7.10 isn't recognizing the CD-rom i installed it off of thats on the same ide channel
[05:08] <Sam827> o
[05:08] <Sam827> cool
[05:09] <Sam827> ty
[05:09] <mattias> Sam827:  be aware of using it is not quite legal but lots of things there ...
[05:09] <robert___1111> is there a way to uninstall it from terminal?
[05:09] <flyback> chris no I am just in a lot of pain right now and none of my pc's want to run tonight
[05:09] <flyback> hang on
[05:09] <nickrud> robert___1111 ls -l $(which firefox)
[05:09] <SlicerDicer> mattias: sure its completely legal to use it
[05:09] <dmsuperman> WHY DO YOU SUCK SO MUCH NVIDIA
[05:09] <Sam827> mattias: i know
[05:09] <chris42050707> Flyback im sorry dude hope all is good with ya...
[05:09] <SlicerDicer> mattias: downloading things like ubuntu cds or other legitimate things are not illegal
[05:09] <Sam827> mattias: i've been using it on my mac for years
[05:09] <SlicerDicer> so dont say all torrents are illegal
[05:09] <dmsuperman> nvidia-settings says you are not using nvidia settings for xorg.conf, run nvidia-xconfig and reset xserver
[05:09] <nethakz> xteven: had the same problem, go to the power preferences and uncheck dim when idle
[05:10] <flyback> it hasn
[05:10] <jml_> i'd like to learn more about samhain so installed it on my laptop. 2 questions: does debian automatically initialize the baseline database? where is this database stored by default?
[05:10] <chris42050707> Flyback: my dads got hella back probs to  so i can sort of feel for ya
[05:10] <mattias> SlicerDicer:  that is legal but there is soo much more ... :)
[05:10] <flyback> been right in 34 yrs
[05:10] <SlicerDicer> mattias: only illegal if you download illegal content and then that is disputed by the country you live in :)
[05:10] <dmsuperman> so what do i do? nvidia-xconfig, reset xserver. doesn't work. reset the whole computer, and it still thinks that i didn't run the command that i CLEARLY ran
[05:10] <flyback> so I am used it
[05:10] <xteven> nethakz, I did it continues to do it
[05:10] <flyback> mine also
[05:10] <flyback> ugh
[05:10] <SlicerDicer> mattias: true true
[05:10] <flyback> I can't get my browser yup
[05:10] <nickrud> robert___1111 that's what we'll do (remove it with the terminal) but first we need to know where it is
[05:10] <noodles12> is there a way to reinstall your sound? besides just reinstalling alsa-utils & alsa-base?
[05:10] <robert___1111> one sec
[05:10] <mattias> SlicerDicer: almost like ladoes :) ....:)
[05:10] <gort42> k1dugar: the only command I can think of to use is lshw...even it the doc it shows it should output firmware version for most hardware ieee 1394 not supported
[05:11] <mattias> ladies
[05:11] <chris42050707> flyback: how many uncooperative computers do you have? are they networked?
[05:11] <gort42> k1dugar: did you run with sudo?
[05:11] <nethakz> xteven, is it unchecked for both battery and ac power?
[05:11] <odin> hey there, anyone knows which hinter is the default in ubuntu 7.10? autohinter or bytecode interpreter?
[05:11] <flyback> lost my keyboard again
[05:11] <SlicerDicer> mattias: what you mean like rape? as in what goes on in iraq? /me is treading on dangerous ground here
[05:11] <xteven> nethakz, yes sir, they are both unchecked... = (
[05:11] <flyback> yeah and 3 right now
[05:11] <flyback> used to have around 30 or so in parts etc
[05:11] <tritium> SlicerDicer: don't stray offtopic like that again, please.
[05:11] <mattias> no like having thought about other babes ...
[05:12] <chris42050707> Flyback: ouch  yeah your comps seem to be far worse off then mine lol
[05:12] <gort42> k1dugar: if you dont run it as super user you will get limited information back
[05:12] <flyback> the new laptop works fine but I don't touch it except for work
[05:12] <SlicerDicer> tritium: sorry wont happen again :)
[05:12] <chris42050707> lol
[05:12] <robert___1111> i have mozilla and firefox folders all over the place though... it's in /usr/lib64  it's in etc/
[05:12] <flyback> although  am using it to watch anime video streams right now :)
[05:12] <nethakz> xteven, try unchecking the reduce background brightness and see if it works... don't know what else from there :(
[05:12] <chris42050707> good choice haha
[05:12] <robert___1111> i don't know where the actual install's at
[05:12] <nickrud> robert___1111 yes. do the command    ls -l $(which firefox)
[05:12] <flyback> chris
[05:12] <jml_> can i use a gmail ip address in my fetchmailrc instead of pop.gmail.com?
[05:12] <mattias> chicks 2:nd one night stand
[05:12] <flyback> dwr or drw
[05:12] <k1dugar> gorth42: you are right about getting info about hardware but I need the firmware dump. ie the firmware copy out of the hardware
[05:13] <chris42050707> drw
[05:13] <_Andrew> nickrud, just tell him to remove firefox through apt then delete anything remaining, then reinstall
[05:13] <Tack122> So, uh, Andrew?
[05:13] <robert___1111> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2008-03-29 19:32 /usr/bin/firefox -> /opt/firefox/firefox
[05:13] <xteven> nethakz, where is the "reduce background brightness" setting?
[05:13] <mattias> if you know what i mean ... always the temptation for something new ..., well back to ubuntu ...
[05:13] <nethakz> xteven, under the battery tab.
[05:13] <gort42> k1dugar: my mistake....thought you wanted just the info not the actual firmware
[05:13] <nickrud> robert___1111  sudo rm -r  /opt/firefox
[05:13] <_Andrew> Tack122, yup?
[05:13] <mattias> so azuresu is an bittorrent client as well ?
[05:14] <Tack122> Still lost... I guess, what next?
[05:14] <nethakz> mattias, yes
[05:14] <mattias> or another limewire ?
[05:14] <bittin> yepp
[05:14] <flyback> hmm I don't see anything bugs affecting klinux with that driver
[05:14] <este_> its really all it is,
[05:14] <bittin> a bittorrent client
[05:14] <robert___1111> alright finally--
[05:14] <este_> limewire wasn't torrent
[05:14] <xteven> netdefilr, you mean "Dim display brightness by" ?
[05:14] <robert___1111> thank you
[05:14] <K4k-laptop> Has anyone on here installed Enlightenment .17 on ubuntu here?
[05:14] <k1dugar> gorth42: no problem, but do you have any idea about it.
[05:14] <SlicerDicer> 'dpkg-reconfigure lirc-modules-source' and I built modules for lirc_i2c and lirc_pvr150 however they are not showing up when I do a modprobe? anybody got any advice on how to do this?
[05:14] <nickrud> robert___1111 now sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox and you should be fine
[05:14] <xteven> nethakz, oooooooooo I just put it to 0% I think I am gonna get a tan
[05:14] <chris42050707> how would i go about it because i couldn't even found a driver for it compatible with linux
[05:14] <xteven> nethakz, thanks... lol
[05:15] <nethakz> xteven, lol
[05:15] <dmsuperman> does anybody know why i can't get nvidia restricted drivers to be "in use" and allow me to run nvidia-settings ?
[05:15] <nethakz> xteven, yw
[05:15] <flyback> it sdhould just work
[05:15] <flyback> it appears
[05:15] <chris42050707> flyback: would the fact that i didn't have it hooked up during the install have something to do with it?
[05:15] <mattias> SlicerDicer:  you know the grass is always greener on the other side, the temptation for more ..., just to clarify ...
[05:15] <_Andrew> Tack122, Is your HD still working, sounds borked to me
[05:15] <flyback> external ?
[05:15] <Crshman> anyone have any creative ideas on finding what the deepest directory is within a filesystem?
[05:15] <chris42050707> flyback:internal
[05:16] <flyback> sata or pata?
[05:16] <odin> anyone knows which hinter is the default in ubuntu 7.10? autohinter or bytecode interpreter?
[05:16] <Tack122> It works fine in windows
[05:16] <mattias> okey guys thank you for all input, i will give azureus a try and look at miro if that can do anything  ...
[05:16] <nethakz> Crshman, /
[05:16] <mattias>  thanks all ...
[05:16] <nickrud> SlicerDicer did you do   sudo depmod -a ?  (might not have been part of your compile/installation
[05:16] <chris42050707> PATA
[05:16] <robert___1111> finally thanks everything worked
[05:16] <travisat> Crshman: just out of curiousity why?
[05:16] <_Andrew> Tack122, Or you don't have it plugged in, or it's formatted a windows partition and doesn't want to get rid of it
[05:16] <robert___1111> the reason why i did it was to get moonlight plugin working
[05:16] <robert___1111> anyone done this?
[05:16] <flyback> what chipset is the pata controller
[05:16] <chris42050707> flyback: is in normal for 7.10 to put ide in the scsi category?
[05:16] <flyback> with sata ide for sure
[05:16] <Crshman> because there is a directory on mysystem that's super deep (maybe multiple directories) and i need to get in there and fix it...
[05:16] <dmsuperman> can _anybody_ help me figure out how to get xserver running dual monitor in xinerama or in twinview?
[05:16] <SlicerDicer> nickrud: yeppers done depmod -a
[05:16] <Tack122> It is definitely plugged in.
[05:17] <chris42050707> hmmmm good question the guts are out of a dimension 300 from dell.... its running a dual core p4
[05:17] <Crshman> i made a script to move files around from the lost+found but the first incarnation of the script wasn't so.....nice haha
[05:17] <SlicerDicer> nickrud: no idea why its not working
[05:17] <flyback> well find out
[05:17] <mattias> guys guys is there a way to get printer driver for windows to work in linux, i have an lexmakr wireless printer andi have not find any driver for it yeat ...
[05:17] <_Andrew> Tack122, You could try deleting the partition
[05:17] <tritium> dmsuperman: xrandr has superseded at least twinview, and I believe xinerama as well
[05:17] <nickrud> odin autohinter, see /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-autohint.conf
[05:17] <Tack122> Okay, how would I go about that?
[05:17] <gort42> k1dugar: you'll be hard pressed to find an app to pull firmware off a device unless it was coded from the manufacturer or some 3rd party
[05:17] <dmsuperman> tritium: how do i get that?
[05:17] <Soleone> hey, can anyone suggest a simple but sylish mysql-client for gnome?
[05:17] <flyback> tritium: stfu
[05:17] <odin> thanks nickrud!
[05:17] <flyback> you are so damn unstable
[05:17] <travisat> Crshman: ah well the easiest way I can think of is a perl script that parses every single file and counts slashes
[05:17] <chris42050707> flyback: hmmm thats got me scratching my head as welll because of tghe fact that on my last machine it showed ide as exactly that IDE lol
[05:18] <flyback> blow an electron out your ass
[05:18] <_Andrew> Tack122, ah, on the live CD you said you had media/sda ?
[05:18]  * flyback ducks
[05:18] <_Andrew> Tack122, Is that your disk?
[05:18] <tritium> !language | flyback
[05:18] <ubotu> flyback: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:18]  * nickrud wonders if crit mass is achieved ;)
[05:18] <Crshman> hmmm not to familiar with perl.....but that's a good idea...i can implement that in php =P
[05:18] <gort42> k1dugar: if you asking is the some widget out there to backup the firmware on your device...I have not heard of one
[05:18] <flyback> chris
[05:18] <tritium> dmsuperman: you already have it
[05:18] <flyback> lspci
[05:18] <dmsuperman> tritium, i mean, how can i use it
[05:18] <Tack122> ./dev/sda accually
[05:18] <flyback> andf mabye you need to try disabling ide-scsi emilation
[05:18] <flyback> if it's not working
[05:19] <_Andrew> Tack122, So that's the disk you want to use for Ubuntu?
[05:19] <chris42050707> hmmm how would i go about that?
[05:19] <flyback> option on boot
[05:19] <chris42050707> bios?
[05:19] <flyback> been a few yrs since I checked
[05:19] <tritium> dmsuperman: here's one good tutorial: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[05:19] <SlicerDicer> nickrud: should it be located in the /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic? somewhere in there?
[05:19] <flyback> no it's a linux thing
[05:19] <tritium> !enter | flyback
[05:19] <ubotu> flyback: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:19] <carlzenox> how do i play .avi on ubuntu?
[05:19] <mattias> anyone here have an lexmark all in one printer/fax/scanner that works on linux ?
[05:19] <dmsuperman> thanks :D
[05:19] <rance> !restrictedformats
[05:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:19] <Tack122> I think so, yes.
[05:19] <travisat> haha encoding 4 videos to xvid and my cpu temp isn't going over 50c
[05:19] <_Andrew> Tack122, Click on sda folder and click unmount
[05:19] <chris42050707> hmmmm aight let me run a google search on that!!
[05:20] <nickrud> SlicerDicer in  /lib/modules/$(uname -r)  (probably what you just said)
[05:20] <flyback> well first
[05:20] <flyback> run lspci
[05:20] <flyback> tell me who makes your ide controller
[05:20] <chris42050707> ok
[05:20] <tritium> dmsuperman: also, http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html
[05:20] <_Andrew> Tack122, Then try running the installer again
[05:20] <mattias> carlzenox: use vlc player ...
[05:20] <chris42050707> one sec
[05:20] <SlicerDicer> nickrud: yeah they are not located there they are in stupid place ;-)
[05:20] <_Andrew> Tack122, Does it pop up now?
[05:20] <travisat> mattias: I have actually found some avi's that vlc won't play
[05:20] <odin> nickrud: do you know if bytecode interpreter is compiled in ubuntu 7.10?
[05:20] <nickrud> odin now that, I'm not sure
[05:21] <Tack122> Wait, where it it that you want me to click the /dev/sda at? I see it in the installer manual partitioning section, nowhere else, and that doesn't have an unmount option.
[05:21] <mattias> travisat:  rellay the file is not corrupt in any way ?, for me all works ...
[05:21] <odin> nickrud: ok! thanks for the info!
[05:21] <mattias> really ?
[05:21] <carlzenox> mattias: sudo apt-get install vlcplayer ?
[05:21] <chris42050707> flyback:  82865G/PE/P
[05:21] <chris42050707> intel
[05:21] <_Andrew> Tack122, on the live CD click places -> sda
[05:21] <flyback> ok intel that';s fine
[05:21] <flyback> no promise stuff right?
[05:22] <travisat> mattias: I think it was divx6 can't look now my system is bogged down,  works with mplayer and wincodecs
[05:22] <Tack122> That isn't a choice in places.
[05:22] <chris42050707> flyback: hers right from the terminal00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller (rev 02)
[05:22] <mattias> the best is go to applications-> add/remove programs and search for vlc, let me check ...
[05:22] <_Andrew> Tack122, it's the menu on the top of the OS
[05:22] <chris42050707> i guess so lol
[05:22] <flyback> yeah that's not th eproblem then
[05:22] <chris42050707> hmmmmm
[05:22] <ZoiX> How I can copy the images in a directory and its directories?
[05:23] <Tack122> Yes, sda is not a choice there.
[05:23] <flyback> so I would next time out about if it';s ide-scsi emulation that is the issue
[05:23] <bookmark_> sup
[05:23] <ZoiX> :o... excuseme, copy the images of a directory and its directories
[05:23] <ZoiX> *subdirectories
[05:23] <carlzenox>  mattias: ok
[05:23] <chris42050707> ok cool i just googled that too hehe
[05:24] <_Andrew> Tack122, Are your satas still unplugged? Nothing plugged in but the IDE hard drive?
[05:24] <mattias> carlzenox:  yes go to application->add/remove ... type in search vlc and it will display vlc media player if i n ubuntu 7.10 ...
[05:24] <bookmark_> does anyone know if or what cyphers for luks and cryptsetup are supported on the live cd?
[05:24] <Abhay> hi all
[05:24] <chris42050707> you think if i turn that off my optical probs would solve themselves?
[05:24] <carlzenox> mattias: yes sirr
[05:24] <flyback> I dunno
[05:24] <chris42050707> ill give it a try
[05:24] <chris42050707> be back in a few
[05:24] <bookmark_> it says you can specify a cypher, and lists like 4 or 5 of them
[05:25] <bookmark_> but i dunno if ubuntu has em
[05:25] <mattias> you will find in ther but maybe as well with sudo apt-get might work as well, i prefer to use the graphical interface ...
[05:25] <travisat> mattias: it happens to be an xvid file and ffmpeg works but vlc's internal decoder doesn't
[05:25] <Tack122> Yes, they are unplugged entirely the only other thing aside from the IDE hard drive would be the IDE based CD drive.
[05:25] <mattias> travisat:  xvid ???, let me check something ...
[05:25] <travisat> mattias: I am trying to get more exact codec
[05:26] <oxeimon> so I connected an external harddrive via usb, copied something onto it, and once the copy was finished, I disconnected it(without manually unmounting). Now when I reconnect it, it says that it cannot mount volume: "Unable to mount the volume 'STORE-IT'. Record 5 has no FILE magic: Input/output error Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1':Input/output error NTFS is either inconsistent, or you have hardware faults, or you have a SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware..."
[05:26] <_Andrew> Tack122, Then that'll be the hard drive you want to install on.. what are your options when it comes to formatting?
[05:26] <dmsuperman> tritium, do you know much about randr?
[05:26] <oxeimon> how do I fix that?
[05:26] <mattias> travisat:  let me check i would bet ubuntu have xvid codec to install but let me check
[05:26] <egc> anybody from mountain view?
[05:27] <Tack122> I don't seem to have any options within ubuntu, though there is no data on it that I care one bit for if that is what you mean.
[05:27] <travisat> mattias: it is installed vlc uses its own codecs
[05:27] <smartface> Hi, everytime I use apt-get my system crashes while trying to upgrade gthumb.  Can I tell it do disregard this package?
[05:27] <travisat> mattias: as I said mplayer runs it perfectly
[05:27] <_Andrew> smartface, try updating in the terminal console
[05:27] <mattias> hmm okey ...
[05:28] <skelband> Can someone help me with apt-get of ddd?
[05:28] <Soleone> hey, can anyone suggest a simple but sylish mysql-gui-client for gnome?
[05:28] <Bassxman1> can some one help me? I need to get a Sound Blaster 16 card to work
[05:28] <smartface> I've done that _Andrew, I tried apt-get upgrade
[05:28] <skelband> I get install-info: No such file or directory for Programming & development tools.
[05:28] <este_> Anyone know why my Flash has no sound and videos only play for two seconds then stop until I manually seek (at which point it goes for another two seconds)
[05:28] <mattias> hey travisat how can i play .cob files so i can use the menues in the movies ?
[05:28] <este_> ?
[05:28] <mattias> travisat:  .vob ...
[05:28] <smartface> Everytime the package appears, the system freezes
[05:28] <travisat> mattias: ? its avi
[05:28] <_Andrew> smartface, weird, system as in gnome?
[05:29] <smartface> _Andrew, yes.
[05:29] <travisat> mattias: and vob works in vlc
[05:29] <zcat[1]> oxeimon: I think your best bet is plug it into a windows box... ntfs is MSFT's secret filesystem, there's no tools for repairing it from Linux I think
[05:29] <oxeimon> zcat[1]: windows doens't recognize it either...
[05:29] <zcat[1]> oxeimon: Oh. well, you messed up big ..
[05:29] <tomoyuki28jp> I am using ubuntu gutsy on thinkpad x300 with 4GB memory.  The bios shows the memory size is 4GB, but ubuntu says it is just 2GB.  Can you think of any reasons?
[05:29] <mattias> well but some movies comes with vob files but in my vlc player i can not select option in the beginning of the movie like languiages and subtitles from the movie itself ...
[05:29] <_Andrew> smartface, try ctrl+alt+F1  login update through there and then ctrl+alt+F7 bacj
[05:30] <TerrorismSux> sup yall
[05:30] <_Andrew> hi
[05:30] <TerrorismSux> i got tired of Sabayon crashing on me
[05:30] <TerrorismSux> so i came back to my good ol trusty Ubuntu
[05:30] <zcat[1]> oxeimon: if there's nothing you need to recover, you could try reformatting it
[05:30] <robert___1111> i have kind of same issue... 4gb of ram installed but only 3.7 recognized
[05:30] <bittin> =)
[05:30] <SlicerDicer> nickrud: I got it under control
[05:30] <mattias> travisat:  just by right click and select subtitle i can select them but than not from the movie itself like ...
[05:30] <flyback> robert___1111:
[05:30] <flyback> that's normal
[05:30] <TerrorismSux> Im a little rusty on my steps i need to take to update my video drivers.. Nivida
[05:30] <SlicerDicer> nickrud: always helps if I do things in the right order :/ memory does not always work right sadly
[05:30] <TerrorismSux> Nvidia too
[05:31] <flyback> you need PAE support enabled kernel to get around that
[05:31] <flyback> or 64 bit mode if your cpu has it
[05:31] <nickrud> SlicerDicer that's what a log book is for :)
[05:31] <tehpunkprodigy> does anyone know of the program that will let me dynamically replace a character with a new line in a text file?
[05:31] <chris42050707> hmmmm
[05:31] <chris42050707> i guess google ain't good for everything lol
[05:31] <SlicerDicer> nickrud: logbooks hmm I cant do that :) my memory is too solid however I do mess things up occasionaly heh
[05:31] <skelband> tomoyuki28jp: isn't there a kernel parameter for >2Gb? or sommat?
[05:31] <_Andrew> TerrorismSux, apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:31] <travisat> mattias: eh subtitles need to standardize on a single text based format
[05:32] <TerrorismSux> THATS right! apt-get i remember now
[05:32] <chris42050707> anyone know how to turn off scsi emulation?   even google ain't got an answer for that lol
[05:32] <SlicerDicer> nickrud: mainly cause my handwriting looks like such crap only a truely gifted person could read it... I cant read it half the time :/
[05:32] <TerrorismSux> with the nvidia-glx package, do i need to download a GUI for it like X-Server?
[05:32] <tomoyuki28jp> skelband: I am not sure.  How can I check it?
[05:33] <_Andrew> TerrorismSux, What version of Ubuntu did you install?
[05:33] <skelband> tomoyuki28jp: I';ll just check...hang on a mo....
[05:33] <chris42050707> brb
[05:33] <travisat> mattias: anyway I think I figured it out the avi was xvid with yuv420p which I think you have to recompile vlc to use it
[05:33] <unstable> I did a fresh install of Windows XP on my laptop, then I did a fresh install of Ubuntu, but grub wasn't installed... I don't know why. The windows boot loader is there, without grub.
[05:33] <unstable> What do I do?
[05:33] <chris42050707> #xubuntu
[05:33] <TerrorismSux> 8.04
[05:33] <tomoyuki28jp> skelband: thanks a lot!
[05:33] <mattias> travisat: i mean in windows media player i can select subtitles and so on from the movie itself but from vlc it does not work ..., okey sounds good to hear ...
[05:33] <kelvin911> how to mount ipod shuffle?
[05:33] <kelvin911> in deli linux
[05:34] <mattias> travisat:  seems like you have been fighting a bit with vlc :)
[05:34] <mattias> like i will do with azureus ...
[05:34] <_Andrew> TerrorismSux, Kubuntu, Ubuntu, the alternative cd?
[05:34] <TerrorismSux> _Andrew, i have Ubuntu 8.04
[05:35] <kelvin911> VLC does have subtitle
[05:35] <_Andrew> TerrorismSux, Then you already have X installed eh?
[05:35] <TerrorismSux> is it in the applications menu?
[05:35] <Stroganoff> unstable: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:35] <unstable> It is safe to install grub, if I installed WIndows First on a fresh system?
[05:35] <_Andrew> TerrorismSux, System -> Admin -> Restricted Drivers Manager -> Tick the nvidia one
[05:35] <unstable> Stroganoff: I installed Windows first, then Ubuntu.
[05:35] <travisat> mattias: well I used to only use vlc, but lately I have been using mplayer, the only problem I have with mplayer is that when you resize using the window controls not 2x etc you lose aspect ration,  but I have found mplayer to actually play videos a little bit smoother then vlc
[05:35] <Stroganoff> i know
[05:36] <Flannel> unstable: Yes, it'll dual boot no problem.
[05:36] <Stroganoff> its safe to install grub
[05:36] <TerrorismSux> _Andrew i do not have a "Restricted Drivers Manager"
[05:36] <unstable> Flannel: just do "grub-install /dev/hda" ?
[05:36] <Flannel> unstable: oh, you didn't install it when you installed Ubuntu?
[05:37] <TerrorismSux> _Andrew should i reboot after apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[05:37] <Flannel> !grub | unstable, first link
[05:37] <ubotu> unstable, first link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:37] <unstable> Flannel: no, I didn't notice any choice/option for it.
[05:37] <_Andrew> TerrorismSux,  log out and back in
[05:37] <mattias> travisat:  thank you for you comments,   i like that , give something more to decide on what software to use ..., i do not like deluge bittorrent but have a nicue user interface but that is about it ...
[05:37] <unstable> Flannel: I didn't "lose" grub, I never had it.
[05:37] <dmsuperman> does anyobdy know why randr might only detect one of my monitors? "xrandr -q" results in a single monitor
[05:37] <Flannel> unstable: That's fine, its the same instructions
[05:37] <mattias> travisat: deluge have too many glitches in the software still ...
[05:38] <_Andrew> Tack122, Did you get it installed?
[05:38] <foibles> when i load ubuntu from the grub it boots to a root console
[05:38] <TerrorismSux> _Andrew Still no Restricted anything
[05:38] <foibles> this is somewhat trivial, since i'd like it to just boot into X server login
[05:38] <mattias> have to go guys bye and take it cool ...:)
[05:38] <foibles> whats the dealio with this?
[05:38] <travisat> mattias: yah I prefer to use a commandline based torrent program in screen so I can detach and restart X server if I have to
[05:38] <Flannel> foibles: Select the non-recovery console options
[05:38] <Tack122> No, I am still at the same impasse.
[05:38] <foibles> i attempted to mod my grub yes, but does it some familiar?
[05:38] <chris42050707> any one know about scsi emulation?
[05:38] <mattias> travisat:  seems a good choice ...
[05:39] <oxeimon> so I just connected my external hard drive to ubuntu, copied something to it, and when the copy was done removed it(without unmounting). Now windows can't recognize it, and ubuntu can't mount it....
[05:39] <_Andrew> TerrorismSux, Try apt-get install nvidia-glx then
[05:39] <oxeimon> is there any way of forcing a mount of some external device?
[05:39] <mattias> travisat:  see you and thanks have to go and sleep ...
[05:39] <travisat> mattias: night
[05:39] <ForzaPalermo> Hey guys, anyone use vnc over ssh?
[05:39] <TerrorismSux> ok ill do apt-get install nvidia-glx again
[05:39] <mattias> yes almoast 12 ...
[05:39] <themime> whats the proper apt-get package name for svn server?  I did apt-cache search svn and theres a bunch and i can't figure out which one it is
[05:39] <_Andrew> TerrorismSux, Then you need to edit your xorg.conf and change nv to nvidia under the drivers section
[05:39] <mattias> zzzzzzzzzz
[05:39] <Flannel> themime: subversion
[05:39] <foibles> Flannel, at grub login screen
[05:40] <themime> Flannel: thanks
[05:40] <foibles> ?*
[05:40] <NekoKun> how to updade PHP 5.1 to 5.2 with apt-get?
[05:40] <Flannel> foibles: You don't login to grub.  But at the grub menu, yes.  You did install the desktop version of Ubuntu, not server, right?
[05:40] <mattias> bye, good night
[05:40] <ForzaPalermo> any here use tight vnc with x11vnc
[05:40] <TerrorismSux> is that /etc/xorg.conf?
[05:41] <_Andrew> Tack122, Why don't you just try Ubuntu via Wubi, it's installed in windows, very easy
[05:41] <jfisher> hey everyone
[05:41] <Johneedoe> hey everyone
[05:41] <Tack122> Well, I hadn't heard of that before, but I will give it a shot.
[05:41] <Flannel> NekoKun: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:42] <NekoKun> 6.06 afair
[05:42] <jfisher> anyone good with grub/fake raids? i need a bit of help
[05:42] <tony_> I installed Mplayer plugin. Unfortunately, everytime I'm running something that Mplayer will work on, it goes stopped! Can someone help me?
[05:42] <Tack122> How exactly does that work though? Do I install it while booted in windows then reboot to linux, or what?
[05:42] <unstable> Flannel: windows XP is /dev/hda1, my ubuntu is /dev/hda5
[05:42] <Flannel> NekoKun: Wait a few weeks and Hardy will be out, you can upgrade to 8.04 straight from 6.06, and then you'll have 5.2
[05:42] <TerrorismSux> its /etc/x11/xorg.conf right
[05:42] <Tu13es> hm, I edited my /etc/fstab to automount a couple external drives, but it appears their /dev/sdx entries have changed.  can I use UUID or something to get around this?
[05:43] <_Andrew> Tack122, Yup, http://wubi-installer.org/
[05:43] <dmsuperman> TerrorismSux, /etc/X11/xorg.conf yes
[05:43] <skelband> tomoyuki28jp: max_addr is the kernel parameter that governs the max physical memory you can use, I think.
[05:43] <Bassxman1> can some one help me? I need to get a Sound Blaster 16 card to work
[05:43] <_Andrew> Tack122, You uninstall it in windows too
[05:43] <neur0n> do you guys prefer Wine or Cedega (i know i asked earlier, but i had to reinstall. didnt get to see answer)
[05:43] <xteven> Can someone please help me with Grub.. I've been googling but it just does not make sense to me. I receive "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition"
[05:43] <TerrorismSux> sweet my /etc/x11/xorg.conf is empty
[05:43] <neur0n> llol
[05:43] <NekoKun> Flannel: Now, that's a good idea :D
[05:43] <tux97> hi johneedoe
[05:43] <dmsuperman> TerrorismSux, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:43] <skelband> tomoyuki28jp: check your kernel config and see what it is set to.
[05:43] <jfisher> anyone know how to enter in a windows partition that is under a 'fakeraid'(nvidia controller) in grub?
[05:44] <dmsuperman> it'll run you through and generate a new one
[05:44] <Tack122> Ah, I see, I just read through most of the FAQ, seems that it should do the trick.
[05:44] <dmsuperman> TerrorismSux, actually, don't
[05:44] <tomoyuki28jp> skelband: thanks a lot for your info.  let me check it.
[05:44] <dmsuperman> TerrorismSux, I'm almost sure you made a typo in opening that, i doubt you could even be in xserver if yours was empty
[05:44] <Galore> could i use ubuntu for my timemachine?
[05:44] <TerrorismSux> lol no
[05:44] <Tack122> Thanks for the help Andrew.
[05:44] <dmsuperman> close it, don't save, and see if the file even exists
[05:44] <TerrorismSux> i dont have xserver-xorg installed
[05:44] <TerrorismSux> it didnt come with Ubuntu 8.04
[05:44] <dmsuperman> oh
[05:44] <TerrorismSux> ill have to apt get it i suppose
[05:44] <_Andrew> Tack122, Sorry you couldn't get your harddrive working
[05:45] <uncontrol> hey. im thinking about using ubuntu with my next laptop. i'd like to know how hands on it is? i'd like to learn linux without being unusable. i have used gentoo and i cant fix some problems as they are over my head
[05:45] <gort42_> Galore: didn't you say that 2 years ago?
[05:45] <Tack122> It works, just oddly I suppose.
[05:45] <Flannel> TerrorismSux: It's /X11/ not /x11/
[05:45] <dmsuperman> is anybody familiar with randr? specifically figuring out why "randr -q" only detects one drive?
[05:45] <TerrorismSux> oh huge x
[05:45] <xteven> Can someone please help me with Grub.. I've been googling but it just does not make sense to me. I receive "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition"... I am using RAID 1
[05:45] <dmsuperman> "xrandr -q" *
[05:45] <TerrorismSux> its almost 1am here ... i forget im using case sensitive
[05:45] <xtknight> dmsuperman, drive?
[05:45] <Tack122> Anyways, thanks again. Bye.
[05:45] <TerrorismSux> so i change the nv to nvidia
[05:46] <_Andrew> uncontrol, It's not that difficult as long as you read the forums, etc
[05:46] <Bassxman1> can some one help me? I need to get a Sound Blaster 16 card to work. i have no idea of what i am doing.
[05:46] <_Andrew> uncontrol, Everyone has different problems.
[05:46] <dmsuperman> xtknight, no, i've had dual monitor working before. i'm just not sure what the hell i did in my xorg.conf to make it work :S
[05:46] <xtknight> dmsuperman, what video card and drivers?
[05:46] <TerrorismSux> Ok i got into the xorg.conf
[05:46] <dmsuperman> xtknight, evga 7900GS KO, with the nvidia restricted driver
[05:47] <dmsuperman> latest version, it autodetected and told me to install it
[05:47] <xtknight> dmsuperman, nvidia does not use RandR1.2.  you must configure dual-screen with `gksu nvidia-settings`
[05:47] <chris42050707> any body know how to disable scsi emulation?
[05:47] <TerrorismSux> Section "Device"
[05:47] <TerrorismSux>         Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
[05:47] <TerrorismSux> EndSection
[05:47] <uncontrol> _Andrew ok that's good. but would you say that it's a good educational introduction to linux?
[05:47] <neur0n> howcome sometimes when i go to shut down, the restart button isnt there? (the options cjhange  slightly..)
[05:47] <dmsuperman> xtknight, I can't. When I open it, it says my xorg.conf isn't configured to use nvidia settings, and tells me to run "nvidia-xconfig" and reset X
[05:47] <_Andrew> uncontrol, Sure why not
[05:48] <neur0n> theres logaout, hibernate and switch user. but no reboot or restart
[05:48] <xtknight> dmsuperman, have you tried this?
[05:48] <uncontrol> cool 8)
[05:48] <dmsuperman> xtknight, once I do that, and try nvidia-settings again, it says the exact same thing, even though it edits xorg.conf
[05:48] <tomoyuki28jp> skelband: how can I check my kernel config?
[05:48] <xtknight> dmsuperman, try "sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo nvidia-xconfig && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" (this will reset your Xorg config to nvidia defaults, and restart X)
[05:48] <xtknight> dmsuperman, the key might be to remove the current xorg conf.  xconfig otherwise just updates/merges
[05:49] <dmsuperman> xtknight, alright, bbias
[05:49] <azuki> what is fuseblk? (it says it on FS type)
[05:49] <TerrorismSux> _Andrew what should i do in my xorg.conf ?
[05:49] <TerrorismSux> i dont see nvidia anywhere
[05:49] <Bassxman1> can some one help me? I need to get a Sound Blaster 16 card to work. i have no idea of what i am doing.
[05:50] <xtknight> azuki, it's a block device that uses FUSE i think.  seems to be ntfs most of the time
[05:50] <_Andrew> TerrorismSux,  Find where it says "nv" change it to "nvidia"
[05:50] <nick123> I install restricted modules - 386 and i see the nvadia driver
[05:50] <xtknight> !fuse
[05:50] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[05:50] <kelvin911> whenever i write a file to my usb floppy, other floppy drives cant read the file?
[05:50] <TerrorismSux> no nv
[05:50] <jfisher> anyone know how to enter in a windows partition that is under a 'fakeraid'(nvidia controller) in grub? everything i read seems geared to getting linux installed on a fake raid, and not installing linux/grub on a seperate drive....
[05:50] <kelvin911> it only happens in ubuntu
[05:50] <unstable> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo /usr/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda
[05:50] <unstable> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[05:50] <kelvin911> in xp is fine
[05:50] <unstable> What is wrong with that?
[05:50] <azuki> xtknight: ok.. I'll just see if it works in the fstab the
[05:50] <azuki> n
[05:51] <xtknight> azuki, what's your goal?
[05:51] <azuki> xtknight: mounting a drive
[05:51] <unstable> Here is my fdisk -l output: http://rafb.net/p/1elZIW92.html
[05:51] <unstable> What am I doing wrong?
[05:52] <Bassxman1> can some one help me? I need to get a Sound Blaster 16 card to work. i have no idea of what i am doing.
[05:52] <xtknight> unstable, try "sudo grub-install (hd0,0)"
[05:52] <gort42_> Bassxman1: go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards
[05:52] <xtknight> unstable, no
[05:52] <xtknight> unstable, wait dont do that
[05:52] <xtknight> unstable, try (hd0)
[05:52] <_Andrew> Bassxman1, Try #alsa as well as Ubuntu ... Also look on the ubuntuforums.org
[05:52] <xtknight> unstable, (hd0,0) can mess things up.
[05:52] <nick123> hey, after the new kernel update i cannot fix, the nvidia i try to install modules... - 386, i see the nvidia driver but when i restar mi pc y got a low resultion screen and askme for video configuration and then i lost the sound
[05:53] <unstable> xtknight: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[05:53] <oxeimon> does anyone know the windows version of sudo?
[05:53] <xtknight> runas
[05:53] <oxeimon> I'm trying to run "chkdsk /f", but it says that I need to run in elevanted mode.
[05:54] <Scunizi> oxeimon, try chkdsk /r or /R or /join #windows
[05:54] <TerrorismSux> i found no NV or nv in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, i have already apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:54] <dmsuperman> xtknight, nope, low settings mode now and it still says "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. "
[05:54] <xtknight> oxeimon, visit #windows but you probably need to go into Administrator or something.  generally chkdsking a boot disk requires reboot anyway
[05:54] <TerrorismSux> did i do something wrong?
[05:54] <xtknight> unstable, you're just trying to install GRUB to your MBR right?
[05:54] <oxeimon> xtknight: I think I want to chkdsk an external hard drive
[05:54] <unstable> xtknight: yes, I don't have grub, never had it. I installed windows, on it's marked for boot on /dev/hda1, then I installed ubuntu. but I can't get to ubuntu, the windows boot loader starts.
[05:55] <decay> How do i make a program start on startup? (like fusion-icon(
[05:55] <xtknight> unstable, well i assume you're on a livecd.  have you told it where your /boot is?  it's a parameter to grub-install, i think.
[05:55] <_Andrew> TerrorismSux, I think you borked it.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:55] <xtknight> decay, gnome session properties
[05:55] <unstable> xtknight: yes, I'm on a livecd.
[05:55] <Scunizi> oxeimon, this is a windows quesionv  /join #windows
[05:55] <xtknight> decay, system preferesnces sesions
[05:55] <xtknight> dmsuperman, interesting.  how did you install the nvidia driver?
[05:55] <unstable> xtknight: You mean "sudo grub-install /dev/hda1"?
[05:55] <chris42050707> flyback: you around?
[05:56] <xtknight> unstable, that's a recipe for disaster.  hda1 is your NTFS disk
[05:56] <dmsuperman> xtknight, it said "this device requires a restricted driver" or something to that effect. i clicked the box, it said it wanted to install the nvidia driver. i said ok.
[05:56] <xtknight> unstable, hold on
[05:56] <TerrorismSux> ok Ubuntu 8.04 doesnt have a "restricted drivers manager"
[05:56] <TerrorismSux> im not seeing it
[05:56] <frank_b> how can I know from which ".desktop" file a certain menu entry is loading it's information from?
[05:56] <xtknight> unstable, "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/root && sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/root && sudo grub-install /dev/hda --root-directory=/mnt/root"
[05:56] <Scunizi> TerrorismSux, for 8.04  you need to /join #ubuntu+1
[05:56] <decay> xtknight: thank you!
[05:57] <xtknight> dmsuperman, ah ok
[05:57] <_Andrew> TerrorismSux, you need #ubuntu+1
[05:57] <xtknight> TerrorismSux, yes it does, it's called jockey-gtk.  unfortunately it's broken right now
[05:57] <TerrorismSux> oh... yeah.. THAT...
[05:57] <TerrorismSux> the "i love to crash" button
[05:57] <unstable> xtknight: wow, thanks a lot. I appreciate the help.
[05:58] <xtknight> unstable, not a problem.  you just needed to tell it where /boot was so it could properly install the MBR.  i guess something in the MBR is based off of what is on /boot
[05:58] <unstable> That seems pretty complicated series of commands, there should be a gui for that.
[05:58] <xtknight>  and /boot resided on your hda5 (/)
[05:59] <xtknight> dmsuperman, i'm not sure why then nvidia-xconfig is giving you vesa(2d mode), instead of nvidia
[05:59] <xtknight> dmsuperman, type "lsmod | grep nvidia", what do you see?  anything?
[05:59] <dmsuperman> no
[06:00] <xtknight> dmsuperman, and "dmesg | grep nvidia" ?
[06:00] <xtknight> sorry
[06:00] <xtknight> dmsuperman, and "dmesg | grep -i nvidia" ?
[06:01] <dmsuperman> nada
[06:01] <xtknight> dmsuperman, and what video card do you have?
[06:02] <dmsuperman> EVGA GeForce 7900 GS KO
[06:02] <xtknight> dmsuperman, "sudo apt-get --purge nvidia-glx-new"
[06:02] <skelband> tomoyuki28jp: I can't think of an easy way to check without looking at your config itself - using make menuconfig of somesuch - perhaps someone else knows?
[06:02] <xtknight> dmsuperman, i mean, "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-new"
[06:02] <skelband> tomoyuki28jp: sorry - not much help tonight :(
[06:03] <dmsuperman> done
[06:03] <nick__> anyone know anything about the mptfs source code?
[06:03] <chris42050707> any body good with hardware difficulties?
[06:03] <xtknight> dmsuperman, did it actually uninstall something?
[06:03] <xtknight> !ask| chris42050707
[06:03] <ubotu> chris42050707: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:04] <chris42050707> ok
[06:04] <dmsuperman> yeah
[06:04] <t1n0m3n> Does Ubuntu have a "run dialog" box like kubuntu has?
[06:04] <xtknight> dmsuperman, ok.  can you run "gksu restricted-manager" now (hardware restricted manager) and try enabling nvidia again?
[06:04] <Scunizi> t1n0m3n, alt f2
[06:04] <chris42050707> asus drw 1608p not recognized by 7.10 ubuntu but recognized as optical device by bios
[06:04] <unstable> xtknight: ok, I rebooted..and got "grub>", but I wasn't able to get into Windows or into Ubuntu from there.
[06:04] <xtknight> t1n0m3n, press Alt F2
[06:04] <Lokey> ummm  how do i sync a palm tero ?
[06:04] <tomoyuki28jp> skelband:  I got it.  thank you so much for your help.  I appreciate it.
[06:04] <xtknight> unstable, hmm
[06:05] <Lokey> and i need a program
[06:05] <t1n0m3n> xtknight: sweet
[06:05] <dmsuperman> the checkbox for enabled is still checked
[06:05] <dmsuperman> should i restart x?
[06:05] <buzzsaw> can ubuntu be set to install with no monitor?
[06:05] <xtknight> dmsuperman, umm type "sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[06:05] <Scunizi> !install | buzzsaw
[06:05] <ubotu> buzzsaw: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[06:05] <nick__> i have a sansa e260 and i want to delete some files from it while its in mtp mode
[06:05] <nick__> what do i do?
[06:06] <dmsuperman> am I using the nvidia driver?
[06:06] <unstable> xtknight: http://rafb.net/p/mbHEHC35.html
[06:06] <xtknight> unstable, that's weird i would have at least expected a menu, even if the entries didn't work properly.
[06:06] <dmsuperman> xtknight, nevermind, it only has nv
[06:06] <nick123> after de kernel upgrade i have no sound
[06:06] <xtknight> dmsuperman, we'll get there
[06:06] <xtknight> dmsuperman, use vesa
[06:06] <readytoinvade> buzzsaw: google "ubuntu kickstart"
[06:06] <decay> How do i view which hard drive is sda, sdb, sdc, etc?
[06:06] <dmsuperman> xtknight, ok
[06:06] <buzzsaw> thanks scunizi :-)
[06:06] <Lokey> hello i need a palm program
[06:07] <Scunizi> buzzsaw, np
[06:07] <xtknight> decay, several ways.  type "df -h"
[06:07] <owen1> can i burn avi movie to a cd and watch on dvd?
[06:07] <nick__> owen1: yes
[06:07] <chris42050707> i guess not... boooo
[06:07] <xtknight> unstable, update-grub executed from livedc?
[06:07] <buzzsaw> yeah computer sat for almost 2 years and video output not playing nice
[06:07] <unstable> xtknight: yes
[06:08] <helpfromu> hi
[06:08] <decay> xtknight: thank you, again
[06:08] <Scunizi> owen1, probably with k3b.. it will convert it.
[06:08] <helpfromu> i have a problem with my ubuntu cuz now i cant see th icon for SHUTDOWN,how do i solve this?
[06:08] <xteven> Ubuntu Server running Gutsy 7.10... halts during boot-up at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)"..... anyone solve this?
[06:08] <dmsuperman> helpfromu: right click the appbar and add to panel, find the little icon for it and add it back :D
[06:08] <xtknight> unstable, can you run the same cmd last time again and then pastebin the output of it?
[06:08] <xtknight> unstable, "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/root && sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/root && sudo grub-install /dev/hda --root-directory=/mnt/root"
[06:09] <xtknight> !info acidrip | owen1
[06:09] <ubotu> owen1: acidrip (source: acidrip): ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.14-0.2ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 63 kB, installed size 308 kB
[06:09] <dmsuperman> xtknight, i selected vesa, it said "md5sum: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[06:09] <dmsuperman> " and the script ended
[06:09] <xtknight> huh
[06:09] <unstable> xtknight: http://rafb.net/p/zCbPSl10.html
[06:10] <xtknight> dmsuperman, type "file /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[06:10] <xtknight> does it exist, then?
[06:10] <dmsuperman> aye
[06:10] <xtknight> dmsuperman, then i guess you can restart x
[06:10] <jarrettgreen> Hey all. I usually have no problem finding a good tutorial and info for whatever I need to do. I'm having a hell of a time trying to find a god setup (with no comments of Didn't work for me!) to set up a CalDav server in ubuntu. Anybody have one running?
[06:10] <xtknight> unstable, please pastebin /mnt/root/boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:10] <dmsuperm1n> xktnight, i'm here in irssi
[06:11] <xtknight> dmsuperm1n, ok.  you should be able to get into X with that vesa config, though, right?
[06:11] <xtknight> you'll need to
[06:11] <chris42050707> any good hardware minded people in here?
[06:11] <dmsuperm1n> i can get in, yes, but it's low settings
[06:11] <xtknight> then we'll try restricted drivers once again.
[06:11] <unstable> xtknight: here is the map file: http://rafb.net/p/r7tZi896.html
[06:11] <unstable> xtknight: and as far as menu.lst, "cat: /mnt/root/boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory"
[06:11] <xtknight> ah hmm that's a problem
[06:11] <helpfromu> dmsuperman: i can see that icon for shutdown but when the square window appear only LOGOUT, SwitchUSer, Hibernate,Lock Screen and Suspend is there with no SHUTDOWN icon
[06:11] <jarrettgreen> Or know of any other cheap CalDav solutions (hosting, etc.)
[06:11] <Scunizi> jarrettgreen, have you seen this.. http://www.nabble.com/:-linux-installation-on-ubuntu-7.10-td14692558.html
[06:12] <Z21> hi how do I install Ubuntu 7.10 via the command line?
[06:12] <xtknight> unstable, try sudo chroot /mnt/root
[06:12] <xtknight> unstable, after that, "sudo update-grub"
[06:12] <unstable> ok
[06:12] <dmsuperman> xtknight, i'm back in x. want me to enable restricted nvidia driver again?
[06:12] <xtknight> dmsuperman, yup
[06:12] <travisat> Z21: do what?
[06:12] <xtknight> !alternate | Z21
[06:12] <ubotu> Z21: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[06:13] <t1n0m3n> Is there a trick to keep my laptop from blinking the screen black randomly?  Ubuntu 7.04, Dell M90, NVidia Quadro FX 2500.  It does not blink under kubuntu
[06:13] <nick123> try the restricted modules -386 and tellme if its works
[06:13] <unstable> xtknight: http://rafb.net/p/vooCuc27.html
[06:13] <unstable> Do yes I assume?
[06:13] <jarrettgreen> Z21 -> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_server_ubuntu7.10
[06:13] <dmsuperman> alright xtknight, it needs a computer restart
[06:13] <dmsuperman> should i do that or wait?
[06:13] <xtknight> unstable, affirmative
[06:13] <xtknight> unstable, except root device seems wrong.  i guess we can fix this when you pastebin the resulting menu.lst
[06:13] <xtknight> dmsuperman, just needs X restart
[06:14] <dmsuperman> restart, then?
[06:14] <xtknight> dmsuperman, x restart yea
[06:14] <dmsuperman> it stills says it needs a pc restart
[06:14] <vasuvi> I haven't booted up into Ubuntu (Hardy) for a couple months.  Would a dist-upgrade bring me up to date with the (almost) release version with no problem, or would you recommend an install from scratch?
[06:15] <xtknight> dmsuperman,  oh well you can do that later for now ignore it i guess
[06:15] <dmsuperman> alright
[06:15] <Z21> so there's no way to install ubuntu via the command line using the standard cd?
[06:15] <xtknight> dmsuperman, "gksu nvidia-settings" does it work now?
[06:15] <dmsuperman> no, same error
[06:15] <unstable> xtknight: Do I "exit" out of this chroot? or just close the terminal?
[06:15] <jarrettgreen> CalDAV server ... anyone?
[06:15] <Scunizi> vasuvi, you should ask that in #ubuntu+1
[06:15] <xtknight> dmsuperman, this is nvidia-settings NOT nvidia-xconfig.
[06:15] <vasuvi> Scunizi: Oops, I realized that after I typed it
[06:15] <dmsuperman> xtknight, right
[06:15] <xtknight> dmsuperman, hmm what errors? :\
[06:16] <dmsuperman> "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. "
[06:16] <xtknight> unstable, can you paste the menu .lst from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:16] <xtknight> unstable, under the chroot
[06:16] <xtknight> dmsuperman, ok.  type "dmesg | grep -i nvidia".  anything?
[06:16] <xtknight> maybe you do need to reboot...
[06:16] <xtknight> i dont know why
[06:16] <dmsuperman> nope
[06:16] <barikulkol_pogi_> hi
[06:16] <xtknight> dmsuperman, go ahead and reboot
[06:16] <xtknight> the machine
[06:16] <dmsuperman> alright, bbias
[06:17] <unstable> xtknight: http://rafb.net/p/pOplOf31.html , Windows XP isn't listed.
[06:17] <barikulkol_pogi_> hi
[06:17] <barikulkol_pogi_> can i install yahoo windows version in freespire using wine?
[06:17] <xtknight> unstable, can you post /etc/fstab from under the chroot as well?
[06:18] <barikulkol_pogi_> can i install yahoo windows version in freespire using wine?
[06:18] <helpfromu> anyone in here knows how to add SHUTDOWN icon? i only see LOGOUT, SwitchUSer, Hibernate,Lock Screen and Suspend is there with no SHUTDOWN icon
[06:18] <barikulkol_pogi_> i'm having had problem running yahoo messenger in wine
[06:18] <barikulkol_pogi_> can anybody help?
[06:19] <barikulkol_pogi_> please........
[06:19] <nick123> barikulkol_pogi_: nop, you cant, you isntall the program but i dont know why you can not get conected
[06:19] <Scunizi> barikulkol_pogi_, use pidgin.. yahoo messenger won't run in wine that I  know of..
[06:19] <unstable> xtknight: http://rafb.net/p/pQrSzj76.html
[06:19] <barikulkol_pogi_> ok
[06:19] <tux97> barikulkol_pogi_ i use pidgin
[06:19] <owen1> will my dvd player display subtitles (srt file)?
[06:19] <barikulkol_pogi_> pidgin had no webcam nor voice support
[06:19] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, back
[06:19] <tux97> i see
[06:19] <nick123> use, gizmo, has voice supoert
[06:20] <nick123> use, gizmo, has voice supoourt
[06:20] <barikulkol_pogi_> gyachi wont connect on freespire
[06:20] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, and nvidia-settings still gives same error
[06:20] <barikulkol_pogi_> does gizmo connect to yahoo messenger?
[06:20] <xtknight> unstable, findfs: Unable to resolve 'UUID=a49d8d54-14cb-4082-b585-18d7ec4b2ae5'
[06:20] <helpfromu> tux97: Scunizi : pidgin has no webcam and mic feature that is what it locks
[06:20] <nick123> yes
[06:20] <helpfromu> gyachi cant detect some of the webcam either nor mic
[06:20] <xtknight> unstable, can you replace the UUIDs in your /etc/fstab with /dev/hda... etc
[06:20] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, and "dmesg | grep -i nvidia" still has no results
[06:20] <unstable> xtknight: ok
[06:20] <nick123> and works wiht gtalk2voiip
[06:20] <Scunizi> helpfromu, yep.. skype, ekiga and there's others..
[06:20] <K4k-laptop> ok, so I have enlightenment 16 installed because I couldn't get 17 to install, however, I can't seem to change the themes, anyone use it or can help me?
[06:20] <owen1> do i need to embbed the srt file in the .avi so my dvd will show it?
[06:20] <tux97> helpfromu well what are we suppose to use then
[06:21] <helpfromu> :)
[06:21] <xtknight> unstable, so should be like that http://rafb.net/p/Ltl1Qz97.html
[06:21] <pisca> i have problem to install ymessenger.. cause library package xlibs and libssl can't install,,, what the problem ???
[06:21] <nick123> so you can chat wiht msn, yahoo and google
[06:21] <xtknight> dmsuperman, weird.  i dont understand.  are you on Gutsy?
[06:21] <dmsuperman> i'm on 7.10
[06:21] <dmsuperman> xtknight: whichever that is
[06:21] <helpfromu> tux97: use windows if a person needs webcam and mic, and a feature to group send a message :D
[06:21] <owen1> K4k-laptop: i just installed ubuntu-desktop since i didn't want to deal with e.
[06:21] <xtknight> dmsuperman, type "sudo modprobe nvidia".  anything?
[06:21] <unstable> xtknight: Here is my new fstab: http://rafb.net/p/gKZoud17.html
[06:21] <xtknight> 7.10 is gutsy
[06:21]  * Scunizi thinks theres a team of ymessenger users here.
[06:21] <DanielRM_> Erm, what about restricted drivers?
[06:21] <barikulkol_pogi_> there's a bug regarding sounds on onboard sounds on gutsy
[06:22] <dmsuperman_> "FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia"
[06:22] <K4k-laptop> I have gnome installed, but I wish to change the themes, I made a ~/.enlightenment/themes dir and put the themes in there but I don't see them on the themes changer thing
[06:22] <tux97> ok helpfromu i was just wondering i have both ty for clearing it up for me
[06:22] <xtknight> unstable, ok looks good.  save it.  now run "sudo update-grub" inside hroot
[06:22] <xtknight> chroot
[06:22] <owen1> how to display subtitles on my dvd player? can it read srt file just as totem?
[06:22] <xtknight> dmsuperman, now type dmesg|grep -i nvidia
[06:22] <barikulkol_pogi_> i have tried linux mint, fedora, and lots of others, but what i am using now is freespire, it works better
[06:22] <barikulkol_pogi_> it has mic
[06:22] <unstable> xtknight: sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[06:23] <xtknight> unstable, try w/o sudo
[06:23] <barikulkol_pogi_> it has nvidia graphics
[06:23] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, no. what do you think that fatal error meant?
[06:23] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, nothing from dmesg?
[06:23] <barikulkol_pogi_> problem is i can't install yahoo messenger
[06:23] <helpfromu> i hope coders of linux or open source can let this ym webcam and mic run properly
[06:23] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, no
[06:23] <Jimbo> Hello
[06:23] <barikulkol_pogi_> yes
[06:23] <owen1> how to show subtitles on tv?
[06:23] <Scunizi> barikulkol_pogi_, do you have an ubuntu related question .. if not please take  it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:23] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, type "sudo modprobe -i nvidia" any luck thi way?
[06:23] <nick123> there is no way to install yahoo, i want to install to because i have voip acaunt
[06:23] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, "FATAL: Module nvidia not found."
[06:23] <Jimbo> How do I make Ubuntu load without desktop environment and provide telnet server
[06:24] <helpfromu> i guess we have to wait for another 3 years for this webcam and mic to work properly on linux/*bsd
[06:24] <helpfromu> :D
[06:24] <owen1> does dvd player display subtitles just like totem does?
[06:24] <barikulkol_pogi_> yahoo keeps on changing the way their messenger works neglecting other 3rd party clients
[06:24] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, well "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-new".  apparently your only option is to use drivers from nvidia.com manually.
[06:24] <barikulkol_pogi_> they keeps neglecting open-source, yet they owe so much from it
[06:24] <nick123> you have those things in gizmo or pidgin
[06:24] <Scunizi> nick123, maybe if you're lucky Yahoo will create a sip compatable  messenger so they are more compatible with the rest of the world.
[06:24] <barikulkol_pogi_> can i use gizmo in yahoo messenger?
[06:24] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, the drivers included with Gutsy 7.10 are too old for you card.
[06:25] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, Hardy beta would support it , probably
[06:25] <nick123> what you mean
[06:25] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, doesn't apt-get get them from the internet?
[06:25] <barikulkol_pogi_> better use linux mint, it's what ubuntu should be!
[06:25] <barikulkol_pogi_> even had compiz-fusion
[06:25] <Scunizi> barikulkol_pogi_, dude.. you're in the wrong room..
[06:25] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, yes, but it only gets them from the supported ubuntu repositories which may contain older "stable" versions of software so that Canonical/Ubuntu can support them.
[06:25] <barikulkol_pogi_> 98% of linux mint is ubuntu
[06:25] <nick123> someone know how to fix the nvidia after kernel update
[06:26] <Scunizi> nick123, are you on Gutsy or hardy?
[06:26] <barikulkol_pogi_> why am i wrong?
[06:26] <nick123> hardy
[06:26] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, alright. the nvidia website has this .run file, is that what i need?
[06:26] <xtknight> nick123, amd64?
[06:26] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, yea
[06:26] <nick123> 32
[06:26] <barikulkol_pogi_> i just downloaded ubuntu studio
[06:26] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, 169.12 i assume
[06:26] <Scunizi> nick123, hardy support is in #ubuntu+1
[06:26] <barikulkol_pogi_> installation is so so so slowwwwwwww....
[06:26] <dmsuperman_> aye
[06:27] <nick123> thenks
[06:27] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, how do i run it? it seems the default option has been stolen by wine
[06:27] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, did you download the right architecture?
[06:27] <DanielRM_> For restricted drivrt manager
[06:27] <barikulkol_pogi_> installation is so so so slowwwwwwww....
[06:27] <dmsuperman_> Linux 32-bit and got the .run file listed under
[06:27] <barikulkol_pogi_> in ubuntu studio
[06:27] <Scunizi> !ops | barikulkol_pogi_
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[06:27] <DanielRM_> goto: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[06:28] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, first we need to install tools to build nvidia drivers.  type "sudo apt-get build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[06:28] <Amaranth> err
[06:28] <ompaul> aye
[06:28] <barikulkol_pogi_> why?
[06:28] <Madpilot> barikulkol_pogi_, can the repeating
[06:28] <barikulkol_pogi_> i am not repeating stupid
[06:28] <ompaul> you were
[06:28] <owen1> how to embbed subtitles in a movie?
[06:28] <chris062689> Is there any way to slim down a Kubuntu install for my Eee without getting rid of a ton of programs?
[06:29] <tommmied> whats a really good game for linux that's in the repos ?
[06:29] <Scunizi> chris062689, you could try installing ubuntu minimall then add the kde desktop and whatever software you want.
[06:29] <consfearacy> owen1, make sure the subtitles are in the same dir with the movie and named exactly the same except the extension
[06:29] <stdin> tommmied: there are a few (see /msg ubotu games) but I like frozenbubble
[06:29] <ompaul> tommmied, depends on what you want - try apt-cache search game | less and see what captures your imagination
[06:29] <dmsuperman_> hrm
[06:29] <tommmied> thanks
[06:29] <RainMakesMeWet> frozen-bubble is awesome
[06:30] <owen1> consfearacy: i want to burn it on cd and play on my dvd player and tv. will it work?
[06:30] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, it asks for the 7.10 cd in "/cdrom" only my cd drive is "/media/cdrom1"
[06:30] <xtknight> dmsuperman, yikes. disable cdrom in system->admin->software sources
[06:30] <xtknight> heck
[06:30] <xtknight> i wonder if your apt-get was even updated when we tried this
[06:30] <xtknight> :O
[06:30]  * xtknight sigh
[06:30] <consfearacy> owen1, if you burn it as files, it wont work.. you have to convert it to vcd or dvd format... for that you need dvd-authoring software to make dvd... and I dont know what for vcd
[06:31] <dmsuperman_> lol
[06:31] <dmsuperman_> how can we be sure?
[06:31] <buzzsaw> looks like i dont have to install with no monitor afterall :-)    video works afterall
[06:31] <xtknight> dmsuperman, first disable cdrom
[06:31] <xtknight> in software sources
[06:31] <Lokey> I need help hot syncing my palm tero to my computer can anyone help?
[06:31] <dmsuperman_> done
[06:31] <bazhang> Lokey: this is gutsy?
[06:31] <xtknight> dmsuperman, now in the terminal type "sudo apt-get update"
[06:31] <xtknight> actually
[06:32] <hurrrtin> hi guys :) I am trying to sudo apt-get install vmware-server in gutsy 64-bit, and I get this error: http://pastebin.com/m6a388b7
[06:32] <xtknight> "sudo apt-get upgrade" after that
[06:32] <Lokey> bazhang: wat do you mean
[06:32] <capiCrimm> how can I have the system control a launcher icons size?
[06:32] <xtknight> hurrrtin, odd. could be a packaging bug
[06:32] <bazhang> Lokey: what does lsb_release -a say in the terminal for you
[06:32] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, the update said "Fetched 3B in 1s (3B/s)" at the bottom, and the upgrade didn't upgrade anything
[06:32]  * Scunizi thinks bazhang takes power naps throughout a 24 hour period.  15min @ a time
[06:33] <bazhang> Scunizi: ;]
[06:33] <xtknight> dmsuperman, ah so it wa supdated.  ok now do
[06:33] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, first we need to install tools to build nvidia drivers.  type "sudo apt-get build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[06:33] <unstable> xtknight: ok, I have a normal grub menu now, and I can boot windows XP from it, but I can't boot into ubuntu or memtest
[06:33] <dmsuperman_> done
[06:33] <xtknight> unstable, ok well ideally i would have seen the menu.lst after you edited /etc/fstab and re-ran update-grub?
[06:33] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, alright.  so now sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:33] <hurrrtin> xtknight: Is there a way to tell dpkg to disregard the errors and proceed?
[06:33] <stdin> hurrrtin: you'd have to remove the lib32rsvg2-common package to install the vmware-server package
[06:34] <Lokey> bazhang: i dont understand
[06:34] <xtknight> hurrrtin, yes.  sudo dpkg --force-all -i pkgname...
[06:34] <dmsuperman> alright
[06:34] <xtknight> hurrrtin, if you want
[06:34] <dmsuperman> xtknight: it's stopped
[06:34] <xtknight> seems fine to me in this case
[06:34] <bazhang> Lokey: is this version 7.10 (gutsy gibbon) of ubuntu?
[06:34] <xtknight> hurrrtin,  that deb came from vmware.com didnt it?
[06:34] <xtknight> dmsuperman, alright.  now cd to the dir where you saved the .run drivers
[06:34] <hurrrtin> xtknight: no, from apt-get...
[06:34] <xtknight> hurrrtin, oh might be a bug then
[06:34] <stdin> hurrrtin: using --force* with dpkg may not be a good idea, as any upgrade to vmware-server or lib32rsvg2-common will produce the same error again
[06:35] <dmsuperman> xtknight: k
[06:35] <Lokey> bazhang: Yea
[06:35] <hurrrtin> stdin: remove --purge 'ing that lib worked.
[06:35] <xtknight> dmsuperman, then "sudo sh NVIDIAxxxx...run"
[06:35] <Scunizi> hurrrtin, you're better off getting the server version directly from vmware.. then you  won't be stuck with "appliances"
[06:35] <bazhang> Lokey: and the name of the device is the palm Tero? that is the exact name? no numbers or anything else?
[06:35] <noy_> need some help  heres the read #5 on this web page called make it permanent how would i do this.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Connecting_to_XBox_Live_through_a_linux_computer_connected_to_a_wireless_LAN
[06:35] <xtknight> Scunizi, server in the repo can't create VMs?
[06:35] <noy_> *heres the problem
[06:36] <xtknight> i thought it was player that couldn't make vms
[06:36] <Lokey> bazhang: palm tero 755
[06:36] <xtknight> im surprised server is even in the repos tho
[06:36] <Scunizi> xtknight, I've only seen viewer in the repos
[06:36] <dmsuperman> xtknight: should it download a kernel interface for me?
[06:36] <xtknight> Scunizi, that's why i was puzzled
[06:36] <bazhang> Lokey: okay let me check something, hang on a sec
[06:36] <hurrrtin> Scunizi: I think its ok if you got a serial directly from vmware
[06:36] <unstable> xtknight: http://rafb.net/p/EbVpV765.html .. hmm something is wrong with the ubuntu/memtest ones, it shouldn't be 0,0, I don't know why update-grub made it that way.
[06:36] <Lokey> bazhang: thx
[06:36] <stdin> xtknight: I think it's in canonicals repo
[06:36] <Jordan_U> xtknight, You should probably execute it directly rather than through sh, otherwise dash will be used despite any #! line ( if it's a script )
[06:37] <Scunizi> xtknight, player that is
[06:37] <xtknight> unstable, well make /dev/hda1 /dev/hda5 and make 0,0 to 0,4
[06:37] <noy_> If you restart your computer, you will lose all of these sei have to make a custom startup script for whatever distro i am using (for slackware, open the file /etc/rc.d/rc.local)
[06:37] <xtknight> unstable, only possible solution i see to your problem right now
[06:37] <bazhang> Lokey: is that the tero or the Treo?
[06:37] <noy_> all of these settings
[06:37] <Scunizi> hurrrtin, it will compile itself on install if  you get it from vmware
[06:37] <xtknight> unstable, and i did mean 0,4==/dev/hda5
[06:37] <unstable> xtknight: So edit /etc/fstab or menu.lst?
[06:37] <xtknight> dmsuperman, just press enter,enter,enter,enter,enter
[06:38] <Lokey> bazhang: Treo my bad
[06:38] <dmsuperman> xtknight: alright haha
[06:38] <xtknight> ;)
[06:38] <helpfromu> omg got discon
[06:38] <xtknight> itll do its dirty job
[06:38] <helpfromu> anyways highways
[06:38] <bazhang> Lokey: no worries just want to be sure ;]
[06:38] <xtknight> Jordan_U, interesting
[06:38] <xtknight> unstable, menu.lst
[06:38] <amenado> noy_-> what is the problem exactly?
[06:38] <helpfromu> anyone care to help me how to add SHUTDOWN icon?
[06:38] <xtknight> unstable, and i hope that's in your chroot..
[06:38] <unstable> xtknight: here is my fdisk -l; http://rafb.net/p/JUkLXy74.html
[06:38] <unstable> xtknight: yes, in my chroot
[06:39] <dmsuperman> xtknight: alright, it's installed
[06:39] <xtknight> dmsuperman, NOW type "sudo nvidia-xconfig" if you didnt tell it to
[06:39] <helpfromu> cuz i only see those switch user,logoff and etc but now shutdown icon,
[06:39] <dmsuperman> xtknight: should i delete xorg.conf and re-run nvidia-xconfig ?
[06:39] <xtknight> dmsuperman, yes
[06:39] <xtknight> dmsuperman, delete xorg.conf
[06:39] <dmsuperman> xtknight: alright
[06:39] <noy_> amenado i need to make a custom start up script ie: ifconfig eht0 up and have this start when the computer does
[06:39] <dmsuperman> xtknight: alright, done
[06:40] <xtknight> dmsuperman, now "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[06:40] <dmsuperman> nothing :s
[06:40] <xtknight> dmsuperman, good. no errors.  now type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[06:40] <hurrrtin> thanks for your help guys :)
[06:40] <helpfromu> xtknight: what does modprobe do anyway?
[06:40] <xtknight> helpfromu, it loads a module from the kernel
[06:40] <xtknight> ..into the kernel
[06:40] <helpfromu> ok
[06:40] <xtknight> helpfromu, basically a driver
[06:40] <bazhang> Lokey: could you look here and see if that is for your palm--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2893546&postcount=5
[06:40] <helpfromu> ic
[06:41] <amenado> noy_-> have you looked at /etc/network/interfaces ?  man interfaces
[06:41] <xtknight> really you're probing/testing a driver alreadyin the kernel, and seeing if it can give errors
[06:41] <noy_> amenado here take a look at this http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Connecting_to_XBox_Live_through_a_linux_computer_connected_to_a_wireless_LAN and you will understand oh read #5
[06:41] <amenado> noy_-> having auto eth0 on that files should do it
[06:41] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, alright, back
[06:41] <noy_> amenado basically when i start up my computer it forwards eth0 to wlan0
[06:42] <amenado> noy_-> I rather you explain what you need done or explain the problem, im not here to read someone else post
[06:42] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, unfortunately you will have to do this every kernel update.  "sudo ./NVIDIA.run"...
[06:42] <Lokey> bazhang: how do i run it
[06:42] <kindofabuzz> woot new wine in the repos
[06:42] <noy_> okay im gona get kicked
[06:42] <noy_> heres 4 lines of code
[06:42] <noy_> ifconfig eth0 up
[06:42] <noy_> ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.1
[06:42] <noy_> echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[06:42] <noy_> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -s 192.168.2.0/24 -j MASQUERADE
[06:42] <dmsuperman_> Command not found. It did, however, show the nvidia splash before showing X
[06:42] <xtknight> dmsuperman, if you upgrade to hardy you can use driver manager without using .runs, though
[06:42] <noy_> oh thank god
[06:42] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, if that means anything
[06:42] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, and nvidia-settings finally works!!!!
[06:42] <amenado> noy_-> dont do that, you know you are supposed to paste that in pastebin
[06:42] <xtknight> dmsuperman_ :p
[06:43] <noy_> well thats the script that needs to start when the computer does :) and i wont paste again here
[06:43] <tommmied> stbin is there any open games that would be comparable to like counter strike?
[06:43] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, I LOVE YOU
[06:43] <dmsuperman_> I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU
[06:43] <tommmied> or age of empires
[06:43] <xtknight> lol
[06:43] <amenado> noy_-> have you looked at /etc/network/if-up.d  directory yet?
[06:43] <noy_> not yet
[06:43] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, you are easily by far the most helpful person i've ever had the pleasure of talking to on any irc channel
[06:44] <amenado> noy_-> please man interfaces okay?
[06:44] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, well that's good ;)
[06:44] <noy_> k
[06:44] <RainMakesMeWet> tommmied: checkout wesnoth, it's not bad. freeciv is like civilzation.
[06:44] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, you were helping me and like 2 others at the same time, and never once had the "elitist" attitude so many others have
[06:44] <dmsuperman_> :D:D
[06:44] <RainMakesMeWet> *civilization
[06:44] <dmsuperman_> do you have a paypal?
[06:44] <xtknight> noo
[06:44] <tommmied> thanks
[06:44] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, dude you have no idea.  that's easy stuff
[06:45] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, i know it's easy, but the fact that you were patient and willing to walk me through everything
[06:45] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, most people either just give up if it doesn't work immediately
[06:45] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, and i do the same thing with xp, i know it's hard remotely troubleshooting :P
[06:45] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, ah well yes if it's spyware i wont do it :)
[06:45] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, but seriously, msg me your paypal :D
[06:46] <american> how do i know if i should download the x86 or x86_64 drivers?
[06:46] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, but one more person using ubuntu is better for me
[06:46] <american> i have a core 2 duo
[06:46] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4467900&postcount=5 Lokey seems you need to install jpilot and then follow these instructions
[06:46] <xtknight> american, type "uname -a"
[06:46] <dmsuperman_> hehh, my usual response to spyware is "if spybot and adaware can't fix it, you're gettin a reinstall
[06:46] <american> xtknight: thanks
[06:46] <xtknight> american, at the end i386=x86,  x86_64=amd64/x86_64.
[06:47] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, well i am surprised you had the patience.  most USERS give up
[06:47] <chris062689> Does anyone recomend ways to slim down my Kubuntu install for my Eee PC?
[06:47] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, which is equally frustrating
[06:47] <american> xtknight:  I see 2.6.24-15-generic #1 SMP Tue Apr 8 00:33:51 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:47] <Lewench> I was wondering, if I already have a windows partition with windows XP can I load that from Ubuntu using VMware?
[06:47] <xtknight> american, yup i*86=x86
[06:47] <american> ah thanks
[06:47] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, yeah, i'm a hardcore xp user that got frustrated at the BSOD, so i decided to give ubuntu another try
[06:47] <xtknight> Lewench, dangerously, yes
[06:47] <dmsuperman_> i LOVE ssh'ing from work, and apt-get is great too
[06:48] <Lokey> bazhang: you there
[06:48] <dmsuperman_> so i'm just really trying to understand everything and make it work
[06:48] <Lewench> xtknight, why dangerously?
[06:48] <DanielRM_> Im  happy in Vista
[06:48] <xtknight> Lewench, i probably shouldn't even be telling you yes.  it's a much better idea to make a new VM.  faster, and it won't destroy your local install.  drivers have to be reinstalled and all that, it's a huge mess
[06:48] <bazhang> Lokey: yes?
[06:48] <Scunizi> Lewench, there are how to's for that but it's not for the feint of heart.. there is a tool that will convert your current install to a VM so you can use it in a vm in ubuntu BUT you'll run into validation issues.
[06:48] <DanielRM_> Vista for me has never crashed
[06:48] <helpfromu> then dmsuperman and xtknight  let's have a group hug hihihihiihii
[06:48] <bazhang> !ot
[06:48] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:48] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, more than just fixing this, i was paying attention so i know how things work and i can fix it in the future
[06:48] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, did you get dual displays working then?  wasn't that your goal?
[06:49] <DanielRM_> and whenever I try and put ubuntu  on it breaks
[06:49] <dmsuperman_> DanielRM_: you must be using a different vista than the rest of the world
[06:49] <DanielRM_> lol
[06:49] <DanielRM_> Seriously
[06:49] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, i only enabled twinview because the other mode required restarting X, but yeah at the very least twinview works
[06:49] <bazhang> !vista | DanielRM_
[06:49] <DanielRM_> atm
[06:49] <ubotu> DanielRM_: vista is the new 'operating system' by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org and !windows
[06:49] <xtknight> Lewench, allowing VMWARE direct access to the disk is a bad idea in general as well, especially if it crashes.  if a regular VM crashes, you're basically totally safe
[06:49] <Lewench> Scunizi, what type of validation issues? I guess I should just start from scratch then huh?
[06:49] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, ah good
[06:49] <DanielRM_> Evil overlords?!
[06:49] <DanielRM_> lol!
[06:49] <DanielRM_> OMFG ROFL
[06:50] <helpfromu> wow this EEPC is very cheap and i wish they can add putty or console or shell or terminal so i can do manual way of setting ip or dhcp or do ping or traceroute
[06:50] <dmsuperman_> DanielRM_: yes, evil overlords. and vista blows, it's like ME 2
[06:50] <DanielRM_> That is immature xD
[06:50] <dmsuperman_> it's getting skipped over
[06:50] <dmsuperman_> look at the dates
[06:50] <dmsuperman_> xp will be sold until 2010
[06:50] <DanielRM_> lol
[06:50] <yigal> does anyone know about apt pinning and local repositories?
[06:50] <bazhang> helpfromu: just install another distro on there and then you can
[06:50] <dmsuperman_> windows 7 will be released in...2010
[06:50] <DanielRM_> I have a 64 bit copy ^^
[06:50] <xtknight> yigal, vaguely
[06:50] <dmsuperman_> vista is nonexistant
[06:50] <bouma> greetings, ive just installed 7.10 :)
[06:50] <Jordan_U>  helpfromu You can get to a terminal on the EEPC, hell you can install full on Ubuntu on it ( compiz fusion and all )
[06:50] <Lewench> xtknight, Ah ok. Well right now im dual booting on my laptop. If I setup VMware correctly, I would like to remote windows xp from my laptop, can I move that excess free space to this ubuntu partition?
[06:50] <DanielRM_> yigal: use aptitude, it might help
[06:50] <Scunizi> Lewench, remember after installing Windows you have to "validate" it.. when you have one install on one partition and another in the vm the validation system see's two differnt hardware profiles from the same serial number and chokes .. maybe disableing the ability to update.
[06:51] <Lokey> bazhang:i dont understand how to install after the first part
[06:51] <unstable> xtknight: ok, I got the furthest so far when I hit enter on ubuntu from grub I get, "42.424797 Kernel Panic Not Syncing VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[06:51] <helpfromu> bazhang: but i has 2gig disk space only i guess
[06:51] <yigal> xtknight: It's a little convoluted, I won't worry you with the details
[06:51] <xtknight> Lewench, what do you mean by remote, do you mean run windows inside linux?
[06:51] <dmsuperman_> and i love how little i have to reboot
[06:51] <unstable> o nevermind, I see, it's root=/dev/hda1, it should be /dev/hda4
[06:51] <bazhang> helpfromu: you registered?
[06:51] <dmsuperman_> i reboot so little that every time i do i forget to fix my menu.lst
[06:51] <unstable> on my menu.lst
[06:51] <helpfromu> bazhang: what do you mean registered?
[06:51] <xtknight> unstable, did you change all the 0,0s and hda1s.  in fact can you post menu.lst now?
[06:51] <yigal> unstable: you have to reboot 0.o
[06:51] <unstable> or /dev/hda5 rather
[06:51] <dmsuperman_> i've had menu.lst pointing to the wrong partition for like 3 weeks, and every time i just manually edit it and boot haha
[06:51] <bazhang> helpfromu: registered on freenode
[06:51] <bouma> ive got a nvidia 8400gs, and after a google i found the software sources and enabled all, then enabled the restricted driver, to get the closed source nvidia drivers.. but now my resolution max is too low
[06:52] <StPatrick> I just installed Compiz, and it says desktop effects could not be enabled. someone help me?
[06:52] <helpfromu> Jordan_U: really??
[06:52] <xtknight> dmsuperman_, i think in menu.lst at the top there's "automagic" options so each kernel update it sets the right root path.
[06:52] <helpfromu> bazhang: yes i registered my nick here in freenode
[06:52] <Jordan_U> helpfromu, Yup :)
[06:52] <Lewench> xtknight, Yes, basically I have a few programs from work that I need (wonderware, cisco VPN etc) if I can get those to work within VMware there is no need for me to even have windows on this laptop. Im tired of windows. Its bloated, slow, and looks ugly too =)
[06:52] <yigal> StPatrick: no sounds like your doing yourself a favor, stay away from compiz
[06:52] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, I can't, it has to be specific
[06:52] <helpfromu> Jordan_U: do you have eepc too? how much is the disk space you got there?
[06:52] <Lokey> bazhang: i got it
[06:52] <xtknight> bouma, run "gksu nvidia-settings"
[06:52] <Scunizi> StPatrick, you need #ubuntu-effects
[06:52] <Jordan_U> helpfromu, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzzhEs9XGuE
[06:52] <StPatrick> yigal,  Regardless, what's wrong with my vid card?
[06:52] <dmsuperman_> xtknight, because in my bios, and plugged in, my SATA hdds are backwards
[06:52] <bouma> only 1280x1024, before going to the restricted driver it was at my lcd native 1680x1050
[06:52] <StPatrick> yigal,  for that matter, what's wrong with compiz?
[06:53] <StPatrick> #ubuntu-effects
[06:53] <Jordan_U> helpfromu, I don't have one personally
[06:53] <dmsuperman_> so grub sees the drive as hd1, but ubuntu / windows see it as hd0
[06:53] <dmsuperman_> so i just have to leave it haha
[06:53] <xtknight> Lewench, yeah i use windows in vm all the time, no need for host windows unless for games
[06:53] <bouma> xtknight: ah, i was wondering why the nvidia config wasnt on any of the menus, ive seen it on other linuxes
[06:53] <xtknight> Lewench, you can just nuke the windows partitions away then.  and then use gparted to expand your linux
[06:53] <yigal> StPatrick: nothing except I find that it's just slow compared to window managers I am comfortable with now, but you should enjoy if you want it
[06:53] <xtknight> Lewench, or even just reformat the windows partitions as ext3, and place the VM on them.  less trouble.
[06:53] <Jordan_U> Lewench, I think cisco VPN is supported by network-manager
[06:53] <xtknight> bouma, might be in applications->system->NVIDIA X Config
[06:54] <StPatrick> yigal,  What other options are there?
[06:54] <bouma> xtknight: i have no applications-> system
[06:54] <decay> What do you guys like better...wine or cedega?
[06:54] <xtknight> bouma, otherwise need to install nvidia-settings from repository.  and besides, the shortcut doesn't run it as root so it's better to use gksu nvidia-settings.  otherwise you can only change resolutions, you can't update your X config.
[06:54] <MEtaLpREs_> ok im going to sound like a total noob asking this but for some reason i cant figure this out,  how do you run the firefox 3 beta while having firefox 2 installed?  if i run the firefox command it runs 2 not 3 how do i run the command so it starts 3?
[06:54] <Lewench> Jordan_U, Really? Sweet! I don't know what corporate will say when I tell them I removed windows XP from there laptop and installed linux :-p
[06:54] <bazhang> Lokey: sudo apt-get install jpilot then sudo modprobe visor and add visor to the list in /etc/modules , then to sync open jpilot and enter usb in the preferences settings step #4 you can read and do yourself I think ;]
[06:54] <bouma> xtknight: the console command worked its running
[06:54] <yigal> StPatrick: well you can have transparency with a modded metacity, that's nice but I like a very minimal keyboard driven interface, so I'm not so normal
[06:54] <bouma> xtknight: but there is no menu item for it, which would have been nice
[06:55] <xtknight> bouma, application->System tools ..?
[06:55] <xtknight> should be.
[06:55] <xtknight> you should definitely have some system tools menu?
[06:55] <xtknight> maybe not..
[06:55] <bouma> accessories, games, graphics, internet, office, soundvideo, add-remove
[06:55] <yigal> StPatrick: I use Xmonad which has all sorts of window arrangements that at a button the windows move to arrange themselves, I just like it that way
[06:55] <xtknight> maybe need to restart gnome or something.  shoulda beenn in there.
[06:56] <xtknight> make a shortcut
[06:56] <bazhang> helpfromu: many distros will go on there; eeexubuntu, full ubuntu, and others--some work right out of the box and some require some tweaking; you can visit their channel #eeepc for more info or the see the wiki at www.eeeuser.com
[06:56] <Lewench> xtknight, is VMware free? Im seeing things like "purchse" and all that.
[06:56] <xtknight> gksu /usr/bin/nvidia-settings
[06:56] <cocox_> Hi there, how could i know which model is my mainboard? i know is intel but i need the specific model... i have tried looking in hardware information, system tab in system monitor, and dmesg | grep intel etc... how could i do?
[06:56] <StPatrick> yigal,  Heh I see. I love transparency, but meh., i actuall yuse compiz to organize.
[06:56] <xtknight> Lewench, yes, the version you need, is.
[06:56] <xtknight> Lewench, VMWare server&player
[06:56] <bouma> xtknight: the system menu is separate, but its not under preferences or administration, and ive rebooted
[06:56] <xtknight> cocox_, sudo lshw |less
[06:56] <nickrud> cocox_  sudo dmidecode lists the part number iirc
[06:56] <xtknight> bouma, how did yo install nvidia drivers
[06:56] <yigal> StPatrick: yes, for 1/2 a year I liked compiz and then I started to see how a tiling window manager is just better for my needs
[06:56] <dmsuperman> wow, seperate X windows is WAY better than whatever i had before
[06:56] <xtknight> heeh
[06:57] <dmsuperman> separate workspaces is sweet
[06:57] <yigal> StPatrick: just play, what is your problem with compiz?
[06:57] <xtknight> yea
[06:57] <Lewench> xtknight, Do you know the latest version?
[06:57] <dmsuperman> that's exactly what i wanted
[06:57] <dmsuperman> xtknight, let me just restate that i LOVE you
[06:57] <xtknight> Lewench, well latest version should be on their site
[06:57] <dmsuperman> xtknight, in a totally hetero way of course
[06:57] <xtknight> :p
[06:57] <bouma> xtknight: i went to the system->administration->software sources, enabled all then went to system->administration->restricted driver manager, and ticked the one option for the nvidia driver
[06:58] <xtknight> bouma, oh well.  like i say you can still make a shortcut.  it was there for me, at least, but i'm on Hardy
[06:58] <helpfromu> wow cool eepc
[06:58] <bouma> xtknight: isnt 7.10 hardy ?
[06:58] <bouma> xtknight: im using 7.10
[06:58] <xtknight> bouma, 7.10 is gutsy, 8.04 is hardy
[06:58] <bazhang> 8.04 is
[06:58] <bouma> xtknight: right
[06:58] <dmsuperman> 8.04
[06:58] <xtknight> hardy is still in beta, close to RC(Release Candidate)
[06:58] <dmsuperman> what's with ubuntu always being X.04 then X.10
[06:59] <xtknight> the months
[06:59] <dmsuperman> or am i just crazy
[06:59] <bazhang> year and month
[06:59] <xtknight> dmsuperman, every six months starting from whenever they did.
[06:59] <dmsuperman> haha
[06:59] <xtknight> 500bc
[06:59] <xtknight> :p
[06:59] <dmsuperman> "psh, screw descriptive version names and numbers"
[06:59] <bouma> xtknight: can i upgrade from a 8.04cd ( when it finally comes out final.. possibly different number) without reinstalling
[07:00] <dmsuperman> *takes another hit* "what should we call this one?" "CRAZY ASS PANDA!!!"
[07:00] <Lokey> bazhang: i dont under stand the add visor to the list in /etc/modules
[07:00] <xtknight> lol
[07:00] <xtknight> haha
[07:00] <bazhang> bouma if you have a seperate home dir
[07:00] <dmsuperman> New, Crazy ass panda Ubuntu 9.04
[07:00] <buzzsaw> would it be more advisable to install the desktop or server install.   I plan on using it to filter internet, running a small web server, small game server
[07:00] <bouma> bazhang: do you mean a separate partion for home ?
[07:00] <dmsuperman> oh man, since switching to windows
[07:00] <xtknight> doesn't the server have no gui?
[07:00] <Scunizi> dmsuperman,  the names come in alphabetical order..
[07:01] <xtknight> bouma, yes you can
[07:01] <dmsuperman> i feel kind of dumb for ever buying that second gig of ram
[07:01] <DanielRM_> Server edition
[07:01] <MacBook0621-07> Leapord
[07:01] <dmsuperman> Scunizi, so do hurricanes, but they're still stupid names
[07:01] <buzzsaw> cool :-)
[07:01] <bazhang> buzzsaw: up to you you can install server and add desktop or install desktop and add lamp
[07:01] <xtknight> bouma, you can upgrade 7.10->8.04, or you can download 8.04 and then incrementally upgrade into the final version.  you dont need a separate home dir
[07:01] <DanielRM_> But when in the CLI initial of the server edition
[07:01] <xtknight> unless you're doing option#1
[07:01] <DanielRM_> type:
[07:01] <xtknight> it's preferable, i guess?
[07:01] <Scunizi> dmsuperman, something we can all ponder/wonder/chuckle at.
[07:01] <dmsuperman> :O
[07:01] <DanielRM_> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:01] <unstable> xtknight: here is menu.lst and fstab, the latest, I just rebooted and I got the same kernel panic error from this. http://rafb.net/p/n9pXUS78.html
[07:01] <dmsuperman> how can i move windows between x windows?
[07:01] <bazhang> bouma right, my bad
[07:02] <unstable> 42.424797 Kernel Panic Not Syncing VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[07:02] <DanielRM_> that gives you full nice LAMP and GUI
[07:02] <xtknight> dmsuperman, not in separate X screen, you could in twinview
[07:02] <dmsuperman> xtknight, i knew there was a catch, crap
[07:02] <dmsuperman> :P
[07:02] <knightwise> good morning everyone
[07:02] <Jordan_U> dmsuperman, Drag their icons in the bottom right applet or ctrl+alt+shift+arrow key
[07:02] <sailaway85> Gooddah
[07:02] <Lewench> xtknight, VMware Server 1.0.5 looks like its free.
[07:02] <xtknight> i had a ban on me?
[07:02] <xtknight> lol
[07:02] <DanielRM_> Lewench
[07:02] <bouma> xtknight: ok thanks, well it seems to be all good now, except i need a couple of hundred meg of patches, and think i might be better off just going to 8.04
[07:02] <unstable> xtknight: I'm able to boot memtest, and able to boot windows XP, I can't boot ubuntu yet.
[07:02] <DanielRM_> Get VirtualBox
[07:02] <xtknight> Lewench, indeed it is
[07:03] <DanielRM_> VirtualBox is free and requires barely any specs
[07:03] <dmsuperman> Jordan_U: not workspaces, X screens
[07:03] <dmsuperman> DanielRM_: AMEN
[07:03] <DanielRM_> :D
[07:03] <Scunizi> Lewench, xtknight it is free.. don't forget to locate the link at the top of the download page to get a serial number/key
[07:03] <DanielRM_> Its also cross-platform :)
[07:03] <Jordan_U> dmsuperman, AFIK you can't :(
[07:03] <Lewench> Scunizi, Thanks!.
[07:03] <xtknight> dmsuperman, cant do what?
[07:03] <Jordan_U> dmsuperman, Why do you have multiple X sessions?
[07:03] <cocox_> nickrud, xtknight such commands you gave me list a lot of hw information but it doesnt tells me my motherboard model... something like Intel 945 express chipset ... any ideas?
[07:04] <Scunizi> Lewench, sure.. If you don't' already have it you'll also need to install build-essential
[07:04] <Jordan_U> xtknight, "move" a window from one X session to another
[07:04] <trolleh> hrm. I'm a little stumped. Cannot get any livecd to read from the cdrom after the boot menu. Just keeps giving me 'failed to enable atapi an'
[07:04] <xtknight> cocox_, sudo lshw should, its at the top under product
[07:04] <dmsuperman> Jordan_U: I wanted to be able to maximize each window to a monitor, and twinview tricks it into using both monitors as a giant widescreen
[07:04] <xtknight> Jordan_U, oh i think he's mislabeling it and he means screens
[07:04] <MEtaLpREs_> can someone tell me how to run firefox 3 while already having firefox 2 installed?  when i run the firefox command it starts 2
[07:04] <Lewench> Scunizi, Which would be?
[07:04] <xtknight> dmsuperman, yes
[07:04] <dmsuperman> Jordan_U, so maximizing maximized to both
[07:04] <bazhang> trolleh: you have it set in bios to look for cd first?
[07:04] <xtknight> dmsuperman, you can do that.  let me get you the cmd
[07:04] <dmsuperman> :D
[07:04] <dmsuperman> well even better
[07:05] <bazhang> MEtaLpREs_: this is gutsy?
[07:05] <MEtaLpREs_> yes
[07:05] <Scunizi> Lewench, sudo apt-get install build-essential.. the c compiler and related stuff
[07:05] <Jordan_U> xtknight, I don't know much about X, what is a screen ( as opposed to a workspace ) ?
[07:05] <nickrud> cocox_ isn't it under base board ?
[07:05] <trolleh> bazhang: yes. It reaches the livecd boot menu fine, just when it tries to boot ubuntu it stops and provides that error message
[07:05] <xtknight> dmsuperman, you need to enable twinview and have it not notify Xinerama.   ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/165.33.09/README/appendix-b.html    Option "NoTwinViewXineramaInfo" "true"
[07:05] <Lewench> Scunizi, Ah ok
[07:05] <xtknight> unstable, what's the error tho when you boot ubuntu?
[07:05] <trolleh> i've tried with noapic and acpi=off, makes no difference.
[07:06] <Scunizi> Lewench, when going through the install it's pretty much ok to accept all the defaults.
[07:06] <xtknight> Jordan_U, a screen is a "presentation" device, it's where windows are placed.  sometimes the driver says 2 monitors are one screen ,like dmsuperman  is doing, so he can maximize one window to one big screen
[07:06] <cocox_> nickrud, xtknight http://pastebin.com/m41bc93fc this is what i got
[07:06] <xtknight> Jordan_U, a workspace is higher level, it's more of a gnome thing.  it's just like having two nautilus windows open basically
[07:07] <xtknight> Jordan_U, and sometimes one monitor per one screen, so windows can not be migrated across both.  they are separate "presentations", and different desktops with the same /home directroy
[07:07] <Scunizi> xtknight, I know xinerama isn't used in ubuntu now.. but is there a way to accomplish  the same thing for him
[07:07] <dmsuperman> xtknight, so the command you just gave me will make the maximize to individual monitors right?
[07:07] <xtknight> twinview has a mode where it binds together two monitors into one screen, or two monitors into two screens
[07:07] <unstable> xtknight: When I'm at grub, and I hit enter on ubuntu, it says "42.424797 Kernel Panic Not Syncing VFS Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)"
[07:07] <xtknight> dmsuperman, no, "true" will make the 2 monitors one big screen and maximize to both.  "false" maximizes to individual
[07:07] <bazhang> trolleh: what about removing the quiet so you can see the complete error list? is this 64bit?
[07:07] <unstable> xtknight: There seems to be a pointer to 0,0 still, I don't know where though.
[07:07] <xtknight> dmsuperman, this is not a command you need to put it in xorg.conf
[07:08] <meoblast001> hello... i have a Brother MFC 5440CN printer and when i plugged it in, ubuntu detected it, but it claims it s a text only printer and then it wont print jack........ i did some extremely long and dificult process with my other ubuntu machine and got it to work.. but i dont remember what i di... a little help?
[07:08] <decay> !cedega
[07:08] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:08] <dmsuperman> xtknight, but will false allow me to A: Maximize to a single monitor and B: drag between monitors?
[07:08] <xtknight> Scunizi, yea twinview utilizies xinerama protocl, not xinerama extension.  twinview can be told not to use xinerama protocol, in which case both screens are on emonitor
[07:08] <trolleh> bazhang: this is what comes up when quiet is removed, and this happens on both 32 and 64bit.
[07:08] <nickrud> cocox_ in lshw, I see the host bridge and pci bridge, I think that's where you'll find that chip info
[07:08] <Lewench> Scunizi, Ok thanks for the heads up.
[07:08] <xtknight> cocox_, your motherboard is a Dell 0DT492.  nothing else to see
[07:08] <Scunizi> xtknight, with drag capabilities between the two?
[07:08] <xtknight> Scunizi, yea
[07:09] <Scunizi> Lewench, np problem.
[07:09] <snow_ru> firefox in ubuntu works badly
[07:09] <Scunizi> xtknight, is that also part of xrandr?
[07:09] <snow_ru> even the worst browser
[07:09] <xtknight> Scunizi, twinview is proprietary, not xrandr
[07:09] <bazhang> trolleh: this is a dual boot or only ubuntu; also have you tried the alternate cd
[07:09] <Jordan_U> snow_ru, In what way?
[07:09] <xtknight> dmsuperman, "false" enables you to drag, yes.  so does "true". difference is, gnome doesn't know one monitor from the other when it is "true", because it sees only one big screen.  but it's like having a big monitor.  you can drag, right?...
[07:09] <Scunizi> xtknight, twinview ... isn't that an nvidia protocol?
[07:10] <xtknight> Scunizi, yeah ati doesn't have it.  i'm not sure what they use
[07:10] <dmsuperman> xtknight, i'm in twinview now, and can't drag between
[07:10] <xtknight> dmsuperman, you probably didn't restart x
[07:10] <xtknight> after seting twinview
[07:10] <xtknight> unstable, i don't know either ;|
[07:10] <dmsuperman> xtknight, sorry, i'm in "seperate x screens" now
[07:10] <xtknight> unstable, all i can suggest is google, i'm sure that sounds derogatory ;P
[07:11] <xtknight> dmsuperman, separate X screens is like two PCs
[07:11] <cocox_> xtknight, weird... everything else inside is intel... graphics, wifi, sound
[07:11] <dmsuperman> should i put it back in twinview and check the "enable xinerama" button?
[07:11] <xtknight> errgh
[07:11] <xtknight> dmsuperman, "xinerama" disables desktop effects and it's really only useful for very niche circumstances.  use TwinView
[07:11] <trolleh> bazhang: this is just the livecd. Not even sure if it's ubuntu specific. I'm not looking to do an install.
[07:12] <xtknight> dmsuperman, in other words do not enable "xinerama".  but that xinerama you see here has nothing to do with the option i showed you
[07:12] <dmsuperman> alright, enable TwinView, then take that command and put it in my xorg.conf (using false for the value)
[07:12] <xtknight> dmsuperman, deep down inside twinview still uses some parts of Xinerama.
[07:12] <xtknight> dmsuperman, depending on what you want, yes.  "false"->default, two monitors, drag capability.  "true"->default, act as one monitor+drag capability
[07:12] <bazhang> trolleh: you running windows then and just checking out linux?
[07:12] <xtknight> dmsuperman, obviously need to put it in right spot in xorg.conf
[07:13] <dmsuperman> xtknight, how can both false and true be default :P
[07:13] <trolleh> bazhang: yup.
[07:13] <unstable> xtknight: My menu.list, root=/dev/hda5 right?
[07:13] <xtknight> dmsuperman, false is default
[07:13] <xtknight> unstable, yea
[07:13] <bazhang> trolleh: best to try it via wubi then
[07:13] <bazhang> !wubi | trolleh
[07:13] <ubotu> trolleh: wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[07:13] <xtknight> Default: false (TwinView Xinerama information is provided).
[07:13] <cocox_> nickrud, i find just intel corporation but nothing else
[07:14] <unstable> xtknight: in chroot, I can't do "fdisk -l", it says "cannot open /proc/partitions
[07:14] <unstable> "
[07:14] <xtknight> unstable, you need to exit it
[07:14] <xtknight>  /proc is something on the active system, and you're chrooting into a dead system
[07:14] <bazhang> trolleh: with wubi, if you dont like ubuntu then you can remove it via the add/remove in windows
[07:14] <xtknight> those floodbots cause more noise than they prevent
[07:15] <trolleh> bazhang: thanks. I've set wubi up on another pc, just found the issue with the cdrom bizarre.
[07:15] <bazhang> trolleh: I would suggest trying some other distro livecd's to make sure it is linux and not a hardware issue
[07:15] <dmsuperman> xtknight, which section does this command go in?
[07:16] <xtknight> dmsuperman, it says on the link They may be specified either in the Screen or Device sections of the X config file.
[07:19] <xtknight> isn't dual monitor on fglrx called MergedFB?
[07:20] <nucco> anybody has a clue why rhythmbox grinds my HDD, and then freezes the system when I'm running on battery?
[07:20] <MEtaLpREs_> can someone tell me how to run firefox 3 while already having firefox 2 installed?  when i run the firefox command it starts 2
[07:20] <dmsuperman> woot :D
[07:20] <Starnestommy> MEtaLpREs_: try firefox-3.0
[07:20] <xtknight> MEtaLpREs_, use the shortcuts instead.
[07:20] <dmsuperman> dual monitor, seperate panels, maximize to a single monitor, and drag between!
[07:20] <xtknight> command line for firefox is unreliable due to several reasons
[07:20] <xtknight> dmsuperman, :p
[07:20] <MEtaLpREs_> what shortcuts?
[07:20] <xtknight> dmsuperman, be glad you have nvidia
[07:20] <dmsuperman> what're the actual names of the bars at the top and bottom of the screen?
[07:21] <xtknight> MEtaLpREs_, should have firefox and firefox gran paradiso..
[07:21] <dmsuperman> xtknight, i wouldn't do it any other way, ati is terrible :P
[07:21] <xtknight> dmsuperman, panels
[07:21] <MEtaLpREs_> firefox 3 didnt install its just a folder that extract from the tar
[07:21] <dmsuperman> xtknight, do the top and bottom ones have different names?
[07:21] <MEtaLpREs_> so theres no shortcuts
[07:21] <xtknight> oh brother
[07:21] <xtknight> dmsuperman, bottom taskbar, top is main panel i think
[07:21] <snow_ru> Jordan_U, in the way that it stops responding many times and suddently quit
[07:21] <xtknight> MEtaLpREs_, gutsy or hardy?
[07:21] <dmsuperman> gotchya :D
[07:21] <MEtaLpREs_> gutsy
[07:22] <ChaosParser> dmsuperman: gnome-panel
[07:22] <xtknight> MEtaLpREs_, well can't really run firefox 3 from firefox.com concurrently with firefox2 in gutsy.
[07:22] <xtknight> it's not too easy
[07:22] <xtknight> i messed with it never did get it the way i wanted
[07:22] <dmsuperman> EPIC
[07:22] <dmsuperman> i think i've got near everything perfect
[07:22] <MEtaLpREs_> xtknight: i tried installing it from synaptic but that was alpha 8, not beta 5
[07:23] <xtknight> MEtaLpREs_,  because firefox tries to detect itself and you get profile conflicts, etc.  much easier to use firefox-granparadiso in the repositories, even if earlier rev of FF3
[07:23] <dmsuperman> only thing i need now to have a completely operational desktop pc
[07:23] <unstable> xtknight: Is there a way to re-generate my /etc/fstab? Maybe it's becuase I got rid of the UUIDs and put /dev/hdas
[07:23] <xtknight> MEtaLpREs_, hardy has ff beta 5 if you want to upgrade
[07:23] <dmsuperman> well, just a few more things :P
[07:23] <wabiD> overwrite your files in the directory with the ff3b5 ones, it takes 10 seconds
[07:23] <xtknight> MEtaLpREs_, it also has FF2
[07:23] <xtknight> wabiD, not as easy as it sounds
[07:23] <xtknight> wabiD, struggled for hours in #mozilla with problems, the two dont even use the same binaries
[07:23] <dmsuperman> a launchy/quicksilver alternative. Not just for apps, so the run dialog doesn't work. is there a good file indexer with fuzzy name searching and popup dialog?
[07:24] <knightwise> question , is it possible to install ipcop on a ubuntu server ?
[07:24] <MEtaLpREs_> wabiD: i dont want to overwrite 2, i want to be able to still use 2 until 3 goes final, i just wanted to try out 3
[07:24] <bazhang> apt-cache search ;]
[07:24] <Lewench> Scunizi, Im downlnoad the Vmserver. Was I supposed to download the VMworkstation?
[07:24] <xtknight> unstable, i dont think this is the problem but i got your old uuids i think
[07:24] <wabiD> yea install 3
[07:24] <knightwise> i would like to setup a joint server / firewall combo
[07:24] <xtknight> Lewench, workstation is a buyable product
[07:24] <ChaosParser> dmsuperman: gnome-do
[07:24] <wabiD> overwrite it with minefield from burning edge
[07:24] <Scunizi> Lewench, nope you got it right
[07:24] <wabiD> then you still have both
[07:24] <dmsuperman> like in windows with launchy i hit ctrl + space and typed "me an live is" and it knew i meant "Metallica - And Justice For All - To Live is To Die"
[07:24] <j3g> anyone know a reason or a fix for slow RDP (rdesktop) to a vista ultimate computer? this computer was running XP before and rdesktop was fast as hell.. now that it has been upgraded to vista, RDP seems to be slower than vnc... is there anything on the vista "rdp server" that is unsupported by rdesktop?
[07:24] <dmsuperman> ChaosParser, will check that out :D
[07:24] <wabiD> and its not outdated like the repository
[07:24] <Lewench> Ah ok thanks Scunizi xtknight
[07:25] <dmsuperman> not in repo :'(
[07:25] <xtknight> unstable,
[07:25] <xtknight> http://rafb.net/p/pQrSzj76.html
[07:25] <ChaosParser> dmsuperman: They completely ripped off quicksilver, you'll love it.
[07:25] <dmsuperman> haha awesome
[07:25] <xtknight> unstable, also get uuids by typing "sudo blkid"
[07:25] <dmsuperman> never used quicksilver, only launchy, but launchy was a more functional quicksilver i've heard
[07:25] <xtknight> Lewench, virtualbox is cool too, a little more difficult to setup tho i think
[07:25] <meoblast001> can someone install http://solutions.brother.com/Library/sol/printer/linux/rpmfiles/cups_wrapper/cupswrapperMFC5440CN-1.0.2-3.i386.deb and tell me why the hell it wont install
[07:25] <ChaosParser> dmsuperman: http://do.davebsd.com/  gnome-do learns.
[07:25] <dmsuperman> xtknight, nah, i installed it earlier
[07:26] <dmsuperman> xtknight, it's as simple as the windows "Virtual PC" program
[07:26] <chris062689> Anyone got any tips / tricks on slimming down a Ubuntu install?
[07:26] <dmsuperman> _really_ simple to setup virtualbox
[07:26] <xtknight> dmsuperman, last time i tried it i had to add users to group and it wasnt really documented
[07:26] <bazhang> chris062689: how slim we talking?
[07:26] <xtknight> dmsuperman, might be difficult for first timers i donno
[07:26] <meoblast001> please
[07:26] <dmsuperman> xtknight, i don't know about that, i haven't actually installed xp to my vm yet but it was insanely easy to setup initially, apt-get did most of it
[07:26] <chris062689> Like..
[07:27] <chris062689> Around 1GB / 2 GB?
[07:27] <chris062689> I need it to fit on my Eee.
[07:27] <meoblast001> im losing my patients
[07:27] <ChaosParser>  chris062689 There are eeepc specific versions.
[07:27] <xtknight> well they're losing you too
[07:27] <bazhang> chris062689: oh the eeepc; I tried eeexubuntu on there
[07:27] <Scunizi> !patients | meoblast001
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patients - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <dmsuperman> meoblast001, and your ability to spell!
[07:28] <ChaosParser> chris062689: http://www.eeebuntu.org/
[07:28] <chris062689> Well I was thinking Eeexubuntu but it really just has GNOME apps..
[07:28] <Daisuke_Ido> dmsuperman, no, you missed the point, he's a doctor about to face a ton of malpractice lawsuits!
[07:28] <bazhang> chris062689: there are also non-ubuntu options that work ootb
[07:28] <chris062689> Is Eeeubuntu updated regullarly?
[07:28] <chris062689> right I was looking at those too
[07:29] <chris062689> First time I've heard of Eeebuntu though, I heard of the scriptpacks
[07:29] <lucy> hai..hai
[07:29] <ChaosParser> chris062689: I'd suggest you go look at the faq on the site.  there;s an iso there.  http://www.eeebuntu.org/
[07:29] <dmsuperman> Daisuke_Ido, HARDY HAR HAR
[07:29] <MEtaLpREs_> meh, i guess i'll just wait on FF3 then, i will install 8.04 in 12 days then i will try it out,  i dont want to deal with a bunch of BS over this when hardy is so close to release anyway
[07:29] <dmsuperman> !!!HARDY!!!
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardy!!! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <dmsuperman> haha
[07:29] <MEtaLpREs_> thanks anyway for the help
[07:29] <xtknight> lol
[07:29] <lucy> hello
[07:29] <xtknight> MEtaLpREs_, or you can install beta now or try livecd now
[07:29] <meoblast001> why does it end at (Reading database ... ?????????
[07:30] <xtknight> if you wish
[07:30] <xtknight> meoblast001, you probably just need to waita long long time
[07:30] <Lewench> You all think that hardy will cause conflicts with gutsy?
[07:30] <Lewench> when you up grade?
[07:30] <meoblast001> its 2:30 in the morning
[07:30] <xtknight> dont know
[07:30] <bazhang> problem with eeexubuntu is that it just does not look that good and a bit of tweaking is necessary chris062689
[07:30] <chris062689> right
[07:30] <jrgp> what's up with xmms not existing in hardy?
[07:30] <chris062689> Ive had Eeexubuntu on it for a while
[07:30] <chris062689> But GNOME apps bloat it anyway..
[07:30] <xtknight> jrgp,  it's weird isnt it.  replaced by audacious i guess.
[07:30] <MEtaLpREs_> nah, i dont like running beta os's even if it is basicly the final version,  everytime i do that i end up with lots of system problems
[07:30] <chris062689> So I might as well go for the whole GNOME desktop
[07:31] <meoblast001> i could illegally pirate windows, install it, print off everything i need, and delete it in the time its taking me to set up a simple print server
[07:31] <Scunizi> Lewench, shouldn't but it will mess with vmware server if there's a new  kernel.. pretty easy to remedy though.
[07:31] <meoblast001> here goes my stress
[07:31] <Lewench> Scunizi, Yeah. Well atleast I can backup the vm file and load it on another vmware correct?
[07:31] <lucy> #aaa
[07:32] <bazhang> Lewench: it will replace it so no conflict ;]
[07:32] <dmsuperman> where is xbindkeysrc at?
[07:32] <CorbinFox> can I get help installing Madwifi to get my Atheros card working? i can't seem to get it to work
[07:32] <Scunizi> Lewench, sure.. a new kernel doesn't distroy things you just need to run the setup again to recompile.. I've been doing it for 2 years since Dapper 6.06
[07:32] <bazhang> CorbinFox: which atheros? the 5006 or the 5007?
[07:33] <xtknight> dmsuperman, sometimes you need to create configuration files.  usually in ~/, or your /home/user/ dir.  .xbindkeyssrc probably
[07:33] <CorbinFox> bazhang: 5006EG
[07:33] <unstable> xtknight: I think I'll just reformat with Ubuntu, I'll delete all the partitions except windows and start over. Will I have to re-install grub? or no?
[07:33] <Diurpaneus> ubuntu romania?
[07:33] <xtknight> dmsuperman, note the dot in front of the file name
[07:33] <xtknight> unstable, i doubt youll have to reinstall grub, if you install ubuntu AFTER windows
[07:33] <bazhang> CorbinFox: what is the busID on that? ubuntu sometimes misses the 5007 and calls it the 5006
[07:33] <xtknight> !ro | Diurpaneus
[07:33] <ubotu> Diurpaneus: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[07:33] <Lewench> Scunizi, Meh, doesn't seem to hard =)
[07:33] <Scunizi> !ru | Diurpaneus   I hope this works
[07:33] <ubotu> Diurpaneus   I hope this works: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[07:33] <lucy> awwww
[07:33] <lucy> awww
[07:33] <lucy> aww
[07:33] <FloodBot2> lucy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:33] <xtknight> ru->russian ;)
[07:34] <bazhang> lucy stop please
[07:34] <Starnestommy> !ro | Diurpaneus
[07:34] <dmsuperman> what's the Mod button for ctrl? Like, Mod4 is windows/super
[07:34] <Starnestommy> whoops
[07:34] <lucy> whats
[07:34] <xtknight> dmsuperman, <Ctrl> i think??
[07:34] <lucy> i dont know
[07:34] <unstable> xtknight: yea, windows is installed, I'm going to delete all the linux partitions, and click the install icon from ubuntu live cd on the desktop, and have it do it's thing.
[07:34] <dmsuperman> and once i edit .xkeybindssrc how can i load it so it'll use the shortcuts i just saved in it?
[07:34] <snow_ru> hi
[07:35] <CorbinFox> bazhang: how would i find that out? im looking in the device manager and everything about the card is showing it as the 5006EG
[07:35] <xtknight> dmsuperman, generally restart your X session altho i have no idea what you're really doing .:)
[07:35] <lucy> ??
[07:35] <dmsuperman> trying to make Ctrl + Space run gnome-do
[07:35] <dmsuperman> "gnome-do"
[07:35] <dmsuperman>    Mod4+space
[07:35] <xtknight> dmsuperman, you can use gconf-editor for this
[07:35] <bazhang> CorbinFox: this is internal pci right? that would be in lspci
[07:36] <xtknight> dmsuperman, please see http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-create-keyboard-shortcuts-in-gnome/
[07:36] <bazhang> CorbinFox: the 5007 has a 160 in the busID
[07:36] <xtknight> dmsuperman, might want to delete xbindkeysrc for now
[07:36] <lucy> i cant chat
[07:37] <bazhang> lucy this is not a chat channel
[07:37] <CorbinFox> bazhang: it makes no mention of busID at all.  but it also says 5006.
[07:37] <nucco> lucy: do you wish to chat on the yahoo, or msn network?
[07:37] <lucy> ooo
[07:37] <bazhang> CorbinFox: does ifconfig show ath0
[07:38] <nucco> lucy: this is a support channel for ubuntu
[07:38] <xtknight> dmsuperman, ah hold on, use this link instead http://www.codejacked.com/create-custom-keyboard-shortcuts-in-linux/
[07:38] <lucy> so this romm is ?
[07:38] <unstable> xtknight: I'm at step 7 of 7, on the ubuntu gui installer, it's asking me about boot loader. Should I check the box to install boot loader? and if so, do I want it installed to hd0, /dev/hda1, or /dev/hda5?
[07:38] <bazhang> lucy Chinese?
[07:38] <nucco> lucy: this is a support channel for ubuntu
[07:38] <lucy> no
[07:38] <lucy> im indonesia
[07:38] <CorbinFox> bazhang: well, it says eth0 and before i tried those stupid installation instructions from madwifi, it also said lo
[07:38] <CorbinFox> but no more
[07:38] <bazhang> !id | lucy
[07:38] <ubotu> lucy: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[07:39] <lucy> thnks friends
[07:39] <lucy> bye
[07:39] <bazhang> bye lucy
[07:39] <dmsuperman> how can i reflush the shortcuts so my change takes effect
[07:40] <bazhang> CorbinFox: and iwconfig shows nothing? how did you lose your lo ?
[07:42] <CorbinFox> bazhang: the instructions told me to do something along the lines of iwconfig xxx down where xxx was all of my madwifi products...i am fairly certain i did sometihng horrible by doing that when i put lo in there.  perhaps i deserve the pain of the scorn of a thousand windows users...
[07:42] <xtknight> unstable, hd0 only
[07:42] <unstable> xtknight: or just /dev/hda, it was on "/dev/hd0" by default.
[07:42] <lucy> #hello,help me i forget password root
[07:42] <xtknight> unstable, installing to hda1 will kill your whole windows disk
[07:42] <unstable> ok
[07:42] <xtknight> trust me i did it
[07:43] <xtknight> recovered data with testdisk thankfully ;)
[07:43] <bazhang> lucy there is no root password; use sudo instead with your user password
[07:43] <xtknight> never (hd0,0) or hda1.  only hda or hd0 (MBR-master)
[07:44] <lucy> ooo...sory im newbe inubuntu
[07:44] <lucy> ooo...sory im newbe in ubuntu
[07:44] <xtknight> aren't we all?
[07:44] <bazhang> no problem lucy ;]
[07:45] <bazhang> CorbinFox: how recent an install was this? lots of data needs backing up? you will have to undo the damage you did with some editing iirc
[07:46] <CorbinFox> bazhang: i am lucky, i got this laptop two days ago and i still have everything on my other one and backed up several times on two separate external disks
[07:46] <CorbinFox> perhaps it would be easier if i just do a reinstall from scratch?
[07:46] <Bassxman1> i need help getting my Sound Blaster 16 to work with Ubuntu
[07:47] <bazhang> CorbinFox: do you have the livecd? does that show the ath0?
[07:47] <Diurpaneus> ubuntu cannot detect my external usb HDD, please if someone can help me to solve this issue
[07:48] <dmsuperman> xtknight, do you have msn?
[07:48] <bazhang> Diurpaneus: what file system? ntfs? or other
[07:48] <dmsuperman> or aim/yim?
[07:48] <Diurpaneus> NTFS
[07:48] <CorbinFox> bazhang:  i have the live cd for 7.10 and 8.04 latest beta.  i am told that my sound card issue may also be fixed (possibly, maybe, with a slim chance) in 8.04.  i suppose i will just need to try it
[07:48] <bazhang> Diurpaneus: does fdisk -l see it?
[07:48] <Diurpaneus> no :(
[07:49] <ChaosParser> CorbinFox: I'd hold on hardy till it's released.
[07:49] <bazhang> Diurpaneus: this is a free agent usb hd?
[07:49] <xhaleor> I'm having trouble getting external USB drives formatted as NTFS to automount in Gutsy - any help appreciated
[07:49] <Diurpaneus> ? idon't understand
[07:50] <Bassxman1> i need help getting my Sound Blaster 16 to work with Ubuntu
[07:50] <mettao87> hi
[07:50] <bazhang> CorbinFox: I would agree with ChaosParser; best to wait on hardy, does the gutsy livecd show ath0?
[07:50] <Diurpaneus> is a USB Hatd disk 30 gb,
[07:50] <CorbinFox> i'd have to log off the laptop (im on the laptop in question, plugged in via ethernet)
[07:51] <xhaleor> Both USB disks are over 250Gb
[07:51] <bazhang> CorbinFox: just a thought; dont have an atheros myself--best not reinstall if it can be helped
[07:51] <CorbinFox> oi, why can't atheros just have the windows drivers available easily to just ndiswrapperize...*cries*
[07:52] <bazhang> Diurpaneus: have you tried unplugging and replugging the drive? what does dmesg show there
[07:52] <Bassxman1> i need help getting my Sound Blaster 16 to work with Ubuntu
[07:52] <mettao87> i'd like to know if with rhythmbox is possible set up an automatic reload of the storage directory of my audio and video
[07:52] <buzzsaw> i would like to use my ubuntu box as a firewall before my wireless router   but i dont remember how to setup the network    is there a spiffy little howto on that :-)
[07:53] <dubby> take a pistol and say sound blaster, im going to blast you if you don't work, then make sure you have alsa and see what happens
[07:53] <CorbinFox> bazhang:  well, the reinstall isnt a big deal for me particularly, mostly just some time.  my spring break actually starts this Monday (and as if to reinforce the unfortunate stereotype of linux users) i probably will fiddle with the laptop until it is done
[07:53] <StPatrick> Ubuntu, Why doesn't my game work? http://pastebin.ca/982031
[07:53] <CtrlAltD> hello is there any one with VMware parallel port experience in ubuntu with a win98 virtual machine
[07:53] <Bassxman1> i need help getting my Sound Blaster 16 to work with Ubuntu
[07:54] <Diurpaneus> dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62909/
[07:54] <bazhang> Bassxman1: yes we have seen; if someone knows they will answer
[07:54] <dpk1> Hello Everybody!
[07:54] <dubby> StPatrick, cedega
[07:55] <dubby> it might need a reinstal
[07:55] <bazhang> Diurpaneus: still no luck with fdisk -l ?
[07:55] <dubby> then a reinstal of your game
[07:55] <Diurpaneus> no
[07:55] <bazhang> StPatrick: what game?
[07:55] <StPatrick> dubby,  What's that mean?
[07:55] <Diurpaneus> you can see the dmseg message here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62909/
[07:56] <StPatrick> bazhang,  Even Online
[07:56] <StPatrick> bazhang,  Eve*
[07:56] <dubby> StPatrick the error you got was definatly cedega specific
[07:56] <StPatrick> dubby,  What is cedega?
[07:56] <CorbinFox> StPatrick: is your game not playable in wine?
[07:56] <dubby> well you must not own the computer, because cedega is a compatability layer between windows applications and games
[07:56] <bazhang> Diurpaneus: yes  I saw that; if fdisk cannot see it..hmm is this gutsy gibbon 7.10?
[07:57] <Diurpaneus> yes
[07:57] <StPatrick> CorbinFox,  I never tried wine, they released it for linux 7.1
[07:57] <bazhang> Diurpaneus: what about mount?
[07:58] <CorbinFox> StPatrick: which game are you talking about?
[07:58] <bazhang> eve online
[07:58] <Diurpaneus> I tired but is is not in the fstb dosent work
[07:58] <StPatrick> CorbinFox,  Eve-Online.
[07:58] <StPatrick> CorbinFox,  I meant Ubuntu 7.1 :P
[07:59] <bazhang> Diurpaneus: this is a shared hd with a windows box or something other?
[07:59] <Diurpaneus> No
[07:59] <CorbinFox> StPatrick: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9971   eve should be perfectly functional under wine.  give it a try
[07:59] <StPatrick> CorbinFox,  WIll do.
[08:00] <Diurpaneus> i gest formated the HDD on a XP pc,
[08:00] <StPatrick> CorbinFox,   How do I go about uninstalling the version I have installed/
[08:00] <bazhang> Diurpaneus: you realize that was an a or b  question?
[08:00] <CorbinFox> StPatrick: howd you isntall it in the first place?
[08:00] <StPatrick> CorbinFox,  with the file i downloaded from their site.. I'm pretty new to linux, it just kinda did it's thing.
[08:01] <dubby> StPatrick go to synaptic, search for cedega, and do a complete removal
[08:01] <dubby> which site?
[08:01] <bazhang> !info cedega
[08:01] <ubotu> Package cedega does not exist in gutsy
[08:01] <CorbinFox> StPatrick: so you just double clicked the .exe file from their site and let it try to run?
[08:01] <StPatrick> CorbinFox,  The RPM, or whatever Ubuntu uses, yes.
[08:01] <dubby> actually St Patrick...
[08:01] <dubby> There is a linux client
[08:02] <StPatrick> dubby,  I know, That's what Im using. It's not working.
[08:02] <bazhang> cedega is not in the repos..
[08:02] <StPatrick> Corbin Im trying to tell you they released it for Ubuntu 7.1
[08:02] <Diurpaneus> is not shared
[08:03] <jarrettgreen> Hey all. I'm having trouble finding a good install tutorial for a CalDAV server on ubuntu. Anybody have one up and running? Seems like it should be simple, but I'm surpised at the lack of success in my searching, compared to everything else I've found on other stuff.
[08:03] <noodles12> can someone help me fix my sound? it randomly stoopped working after using kdenlive
[08:03] <bazhang> http://www.eve-online.com/download/linux.asp
[08:04] <dubby> you downloaded eve from the site as the linux client and it installed cedega? is that what you are saying?
[08:04] <StPatrick> bazhang,  I know. Im using the linux install. The Ubuntu 7.1 install. It's not working.
[08:04] <StPatrick> dubby,  I guess. I know I didnt install cedega.
[08:04] <bazhang> StPatrick: just backing you up ;]
[08:04] <dubby> the debian package didn't work?
[08:04] <CorbinFox> StPatrick: sorry, i am quite confused then. what did you download? a .deb package?
[08:04] <StPatrick> bazhang,  thanks O7
[08:04] <dubby> StPatrick the eve download for ubuntu did not work?
[08:04] <dubby> the debian file?
[08:04] <warri> I am having touble staying connected to the internet on my Laptop's wired connection, im on a University RESnet System, and i seem to be getting really really bad "choke" and spochy Loss
[08:05] <warri> PLEASE use PM with me, since it is most likely to reach me in this laggy state
[08:05] <StPatrick> dubby,  That's not entirely correct, it installed, and the game starts, but it crashes
[08:05] <StPatrick> CorbinFox,  Yes.
[08:05] <StPatrick> CorbinFox,  From Eve-Online.com
[08:05] <dubby> I c
[08:05] <dubby> lol copywrite infringment...
[08:05] <StPatrick> dubby, The video is messed up looking, and when I get to a certain poin at login, it just shuts off.
[08:05] <dubby> oh
[08:05] <dubby> well
[08:06] <bazhang> Diurpaneus: any reason not to format as ext3? if it is not shared--you never need to share it with a windows box?
[08:06] <dubby> thats better then the cedega version then
[08:06] <StPatrick> dubby,  huh?
[08:06] <CorbinFox> StPatrick: ah, a .deb...hmm, well, i know for certain that under wine it works so try the windows install file exe and try that in wine, i dont know anything about the .deb part
[08:06] <dubby> ^
[08:06] <StPatrick> CorbinFox,  Ok, I'll do that, thanks
[08:06] <StPatrick> CorbinFox,  How do i remove the install i have, though?
[08:07] <jumentous> hey: i'm trying to compile a program and run it elsewhere, unfortunately the remote machine has an older glibc than me which seems to come from my gcc -v is 4.1.3 vs there 4.1.2. Is there a way to specify an old glibc version or can i specify an old gcc to apt as 4.1.3 is the current 4.1? note i can't change the remote.
[08:07] <dubby> gdebi rm eve ?
[08:07] <dubby> lol idk
[08:07] <CorbinFox> StPatrick: i think you can either undo it from Synaptic or maybe if you open the .deb again it gives you that option (i think it may only give you reinstall tho).
[08:07] <Diurpaneus> i need this HDD to save my old personal files from the PC, and i need to be ntfs file sistem
[08:07] <bazhang> Diurpaneus: so it is shared then?
[08:07] <CorbinFox> StPatrick: either way, if you cant uninstall you should be able to install to wine and it wont matter if the .deb version is installed.  entirely different beast, wine is.
[08:08] <StPatrick> CorbinFox,  I don't like clutter.
[08:09] <StPatrick> corbin removing it :)
[08:09] <StPatrick> CorbinFox,  *
[08:09] <Diurpaneus> :( now is not shared but I want to reinstal XP on my PC, now I dont have it
[08:09] <Quacksilver> Could anyone please tell me how to force the system to update?
[08:09] <warri> I am having touble staying connected to the internet on my Laptop's wired connection, im on a University RESnet System, and i seem to be getting really really bad "choke" and spochy Loss
[08:09] <warri> PLEASE use PM with me, since it is most likely to reach me in this laggy state
[08:10] <Diurpaneus> in the future I want to use me old pers files on a xp pc
[08:10] <CorbinFox> StPatrick: ok, then installing it in wine should be all you need.  http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9971    that is the page for eve, so try that when you are ready
[08:10] <dthacker-work> Quacksilver: update a package?  update the entire os?  update all packages with updates?
[08:11] <StPatrick> CorbinFox,  Ok, thanks a ton. G night.
[08:11] <StPatrick> Goodnight , everyone
[08:11] <Quacksilver> dthacker-work: Packages with updates, like when the update thinky pops up and tells you there are new updates available
[08:11] <CorbinFox> happy to help
[08:12] <bazhang> Diurpaneus: I am having a hard time understanding what the problem is--this is ubuntu gutsy gibbon 7.10 (not ubuntu-based?) and it is unable to see the disk in fdisk -l ; it will be shared (or not?) in the future with a reinstall of xp over ubuntu or a dual boot? try loading up a gparted live cd and see if that can detect the disk--you can format to ntfs from there as well you know
[08:12] <t1n0m3n> Quacksilver: System>Administration>Update Manager
[08:12] <bazhang> Quacksilver: you mean when some packages are held back?
[08:12] <warri> anyone have tahoma.ttf the msfont?
[08:12] <warri> !fonts
[08:12] <Quacksilver> t1n0m3n: Tried that, says my system's up to date, but i've just finished installing Gutsy so...impossible.
[08:12] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[08:13] <dthacker-work> Quacksilver: click on it.  I think it opens adept with a list of updates for you to accept.
[08:14] <Quacksilver> dthacker-work: That's just it, it should appear there (the update icon) since this is a fresh install, but it isn't. And when i "check", it says my system's up to date...
[08:14] <bullgard4> [GNOME] English help wanted. What is the English name of the GNOME menu item System > Administration > 'Users and Groups'? Or what is the exact English name of it?
[08:14] <Quacksilver> dthacker-work: Maybe the server's down...?
[08:14] <bazhang> Quacksilver: what about from the command line? and are your repos all enabled?
[08:14] <mohi> how do I share my internet in between 2 ubuntus ? its my ifconfig: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6820/
[08:15] <Quacksilver> bazhang: Repos...you lost me there. Could you explain?
[08:15] <dthacker-work> Quacksilver: open a term and 'sudo apt-get update'
[08:15] <Ziroday> bullgard4: that is the name of that menu item, are you meaning the actual program name?
[08:15] <Bassxman1>  need help getting my Sound Blaster 16 to work with Ubuntu. can anyone help me?
[08:16] <Quacksilver> dthacker-work: Well...that did something
[08:16] <bazhang> Quacksilver: could you open a terminal and type cat /etc/apt/sources.list and see if there is a hashmark (#) in front of the repositories names (the software sources or repos for short)
[08:17] <dthacker-work> Quacksilver: that fetched list of the latest packages available.  I will now leave you with bazhang, 'cos I need to leave the keyboard.....
[08:17] <bazhang> dthacker-work: ;]
[08:17] <Quacksilver> bazhang: Yeah, they're all commented...
[08:17] <bullgard4> Ziroday: Predominantly I'd like to know the exact name of this menu item in English. (I do not have an English version of Ubuntu.)
[08:17] <Quacksilver> dthacker-work: Alright, thanks for helping out!
[08:17] <ThreeFingerPete> i added a VGA= line to my grub the other day, and now only show one CPU core. could that cause it?
[08:18] <Quacksilver> bazhang: Should i edit sources.list and de-comment the repos?
[08:18] <bazhang> Quacksilver: then you need to go to software sources; more info if you /msg ubotu gutsysources for the ones to enable
[08:18] <bazhang> Quacksilver: gui is easier ;]
[08:18] <Ziroday> bullgard4: then yes the name is "Users and Groups" however to run the program from the terminal it is called users-admin
[08:19] <Quacksilver> bazhang: What's that about /msg ubotu? I'm sorry, i'm really new to this IRC thing... =)
[08:19] <bazhang> ThreeFingerPete: what kernel do you have? uname -r in the terminal please
[08:19] <bazhang> !gutsysources | Quacksilver
[08:19] <ubotu> Quacksilver: gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[08:20] <jarrettgreen> Hey all. I'm having trouble finding a good install tutorial for a CalDAV server on ubuntu. Anybody have one up and running? Seems like it should be simple, but I'm surpised at the lack of success in my searching, compared to everything else I've found on other stuff.
[08:20] <ThreeFingerPete> bazhang: 2.6.22-14-386
[08:20] <bullgard4> Ziroday: Ah, thank you very much for this information. Another, related question. Pressing this menu item will open a dialog. What is its name as expressed in the first (blue) line of this window?
[08:20] <bazhang> ThreeFingerPete: you need the -generic
[08:20] <ThreeFingerPete> bazhang: so it changed on me. ok, good. thanks, then its not a hardware problem
[08:20] <bazhang> back in a second
[08:20] <Quacksilver> bazhang: Oh man, you just made my day. It worked! Thank you so much, i was completely lost..
[08:21] <capiCrimm> how can I have the system control a launcher icons size?
[08:21] <Ziroday> bullgard4: Im sorry I don't quite follow, I am also running hardy so my setup may be slightly different. Are you reffering to the area where you insert your password?
[08:21] <Kickboy_> Anyone ever experience lag when opening menus? I have this weird bug on my system that seems to do this when I run separate X Sessions for my dual monitors, but doesn't do it when I run only 1 session.
[08:22] <bazhang> ThreeFingerPete: right; the generic is the smp or symmetric multi-processor one
[08:22] <bazhang> Quacksilver: glad to help ;]
[08:22] <t1n0m3n> capiCrimm: Do you mean changing the panel's size so that the icons get bigger and smaller?
[08:23] <ThreeFingerPete> bazhang: thats interesting that attempting to add VGA= made it change. it was good the other day...
[08:23] <bazhang> ThreeFingerPete: that is odd indeed
[08:23] <capiCrimm> t1n0m3n, no I mean the desktop launcher icons size. The OS does scale them like normal icons.
[08:23] <bullgard4> Ziroday: 'Users and Groups' is a menu item in Gutsy. Klicking on 'Users and Groups' will open a dialog window. What is the name of this window? (The name is printed on the first line of this window.)
[08:24] <Bassxman1> need help getting my Sound Blaster 16 to work with Ubuntu. can anyone help me?
[08:24] <tarkus> how can i get the real, modern helvetica standard fontset?
[08:24] <Ziroday> bullgard4: Users Settings ?
[08:24] <tarkus> is there a package available somewhere?
[08:25] <CorbinFox> tarkus: doesn't the Ubuntu Restricted Extras give those fonts? i dont know if that particular one tho
[08:25] <Araneidae> `apt-get upgrade` reports that libgtk1.2 has been kept back; why is that?
[08:25] <XTeLiS_> doooood
[08:25] <bullgard4> Ziroday: Ok, understood. Thank you very much for your help.
[08:25] <ThreeFingerPete> bazhang: i also tried to boot from a 64 bit livecd, so maybe that affected something
[08:25] <Quintin> How can I scan a document from command line ?
[08:25] <XTeLiS_> this package kicks much asssss
[08:25] <Ziroday> bullgard4: no problem
[08:25] <XB23> in ubuntu how can i find out how much free space i have
[08:25] <Quintin> XB23: df -h in terminal
[08:25] <Ziroday> XB23: or by using baobab
[08:25] <tarkus> CorbinFox: nope
[08:26] <Bassxman1> forget it. im going back to windows
[08:26] <XB23> got it, cheers
[08:26] <jarrettgreen> CalDAV?? Anyone. Can't find a damn thing
[08:26] <tarkus> CorbinFox: helvetica is pretty much "the" fontset. i need it, it should come by default
[08:26] <Quintin> bazhang: why, if I may ask?
[08:26] <CorbinFox> tarkus: have you done the Restricted extras package tho?
[08:26] <Quintin> tarkus: aptitude install ms-tt-fonts ?
[08:26] <XTeLiS_> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/
[08:27] <XTeLiS_> bass: nooooooo
[08:27] <leptrino5> irc.shroomery.org
[08:27] <tarkus> CorbinFox: yep
[08:27] <XTeLiS_> bassxman....hold on
[08:27] <tarkus> Quintin: helvetica is not a microsoft font
[08:27] <tarkus> microsoft mimics helvetica with their arial font
[08:27] <tarkus> but its not the same
[08:28] <tarkus> so i dont think it would be in there.
[08:28] <nickrud> tarkus http://www.linotype.com/526/helvetica-family.html if you want the real thing
[08:28] <t1n0m3n> capiCrimm: Do you mean right click the icon, and select Stretch?  or a more global way of doing it?
[08:28] <sailaway85> hi
[08:29] <Ziroday> sailaway85: hi
[08:30] <XB23> guys apparently this box should have 2 x 500gb hdds but i only see /dev/sda8             449G  129M  426G   1% /home
[08:30] <JPSman> HIYA!  How do I edit my grub so that it doesn't count down to defaul linux?
[08:31] <Daviey> JPSman: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:31] <Ziroday> XB23: that means it has only detected one hard drive
[08:31] <XB23> oh right
[08:32] <JPSman> Dawiey: Thank you.  What does nano do?  why doesn't edit work?
[08:32] <Daviey> JPSman: then look at "## timeout sec"
[08:32] <jarrettgreen> I'm exasperated here - anyone running a CalDAV server on an ubuntu box?
[08:32] <XTeLiS_> use gvim
[08:32] <Ziroday> JPSman: you can install start up manager - sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[08:32] <sailaway85> Anyone have ver 4 crash after update?
[08:33] <Daviey> JPSman: use any text editor you want.. but note you need sudo, so you probably want - gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:33] <buzzsaw> to set my linux box up as a router i am looking to do NAT right?
[08:33] <XTeLiS_> ver4 after update?
[08:33] <sailaway85> sorry  thats ver 8
[08:33] <XB23> how do i make ubuntu scan for new hdds
[08:33] <XTeLiS_> 8.04 ?
[08:34] <XTeLiS_> xb32
[08:34] <JPSman> Dawiey: What is gksudo?  why gedit?  whats the difference?
[08:34] <bazhang> sorry Quintin I missed your reference; could you repeat your question please?
[08:34] <XTeLiS_> ive got a proggy
[08:34] <XTeLiS_> for you
[08:34] <XB23> k
[08:34] <XTeLiS_> gimmie a couple seconds
[08:34] <XB23> okie
[08:34] <XB23> ty
[08:34] <sailaway85> yes ... have a ugh ati card that would load ver 7 & crashed on update
[08:34] <XTeLiS_> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/
[08:34] <bazhang> sailaway85: ver4 of FF?
[08:35] <XTeLiS_> go there for any questions.....
[08:35]  * ThreeFingerPete runs in the room, bows at the feet of the mighty bazhang: you fixed my problem.. again!
[08:35] <bullgard4> Is there a command 'seen'? "detlef@MD97600:~$ man seen; No manual entry for seen." "/help seen;  No help for seen."
[08:35] <XB23> ty
[08:35] <Lewench> Scunizi, you still on here?
[08:35] <bazhang> ThreeFingerPete: everyone here is helpful really; I just sleep less than most ;]
[08:35] <Ziroday> bullgard4: don't think so
[08:36] <XTeLiS_> RPM5
[08:36] <XTeLiS_> Screenshot RPM is a powerful and mature command-line driven package management system capable of installing, uninstalling, verifying, querying, and updating Unix software packages. Each software package consists of an archive of files along with information about the package like its version, a description, and the like. There is also a library API, permitting advanced developers to manage such transactions from programming languag
[08:36] <XTeLiS_> es such as C, Perl or Python.
[08:36] <sailaway85> error was unresolved hardware driver
[08:38] <XTeLiS_> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[08:38] <liping> kao
[08:38]  * nickrud has never seen bazhang sleep
[08:38] <liping> smdongxi
[08:38] <XB23> apparently i had have 2 hdds installed /dev/sda  /dev/sdb  but /dev/sdb dosent seem to be anywhere
[08:38] <GIn> this theme is so beautiful http://fratrip.deviantart.com/art/Aurora-Leopard-Suite-77225475
[08:38] <sailaway85> system runs great from cd ver 8 with win network but the udates crashed my sys last nite
[08:38] <XTeLiS_> sailaway: http://www.linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view
[08:39] <Jo__R___> Hi
[08:39] <sailaway85> Thanks XTeLis
[08:39] <XTeLiS_> np
[08:39] <ganastasiou_> hi anyone who can help me with chown and chmod?
[08:39] <GIn> ganastasiou_: just ask
[08:39] <blinkiz> Am looking for a way to see how much memory a process is taking. Not in % but in MB. Please advice
[08:39] <bazhang> nickrud: ;]
[08:40] <Jo__R___> I have a very big problem with my graphics card!!
[08:40] <Jo__R___> ;(
[08:40] <blinkiz> Oh, no GUI tool
[08:40] <threefcata> hi i have a program that needs to do certain configuration in Regional and language settings under Win, otherwise the characters in the interface are all question marks..now i wanna run it using wine, how to tell it the format i'm using/?
[08:40] <XTeLiS_> system info
[08:40] <XB23> how can i merge /dev/sda and /dev/sdb together to give me a larger hdd?
[08:40] <XTeLiS_> jo_r_http://www.linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view
[08:40] <Jo__R___> It's an ATI RADEON X700SE
[08:40] <ganastasiou_> GIn i made some change to chown and chmod i a partition
[08:40] <blinkiz> Am looking for a way to see how much memory a process is taking. Not in % but in MB. No GUI tool because it will be runned on server version of ubuntu. Please advice
[08:40] <ganastasiou_> GIn and i want to return it to default
[08:41] <ganastasiou_> GIn what commands should i give
[08:41] <XTeLiS_> ohhh, ive got one
[08:41] <GIn> ganastasiou_: what did you do exactly?
[08:41] <simplexio> blinkiz: ps , top  ?
[08:41] <sailaway85> I have a 2600hd  (future slop)
[08:41] <ganastasiou_> GIn chmod -R a-w /xxx/xxx
[08:41] <blinkiz> simplechat, maybe, how do I see the mem usage in MB with these tools?
[08:42] <simplechat> what?
[08:42] <ganastasiou_> GIn i changed the whole dir
[08:42] <GIn> ganastasiou_: there is no such thing as default partitin permission, just chmod it to what you want
[08:42] <blinkiz> simplechat, Yeah, how do I see the memory usage in MB with ps or top?
[08:42] <simplexio> blinkiz: res, virt, and shred column in top
[08:43] <Jo__R___> @XTeLiS: What's this link?
[08:43] <blinkiz> simplechat, Sorry, your wrong person am messaging. hehe
[08:43] <sailaway85> All in all though, I cannot believe how great ubuntu is.
[08:43] <blinkiz> simplechat, Sorry, it was for simplexio :-)
[08:43] <XB23> mount /dev/sdb /  i type that in but it says mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[08:43] <simplexio> XB23: chech jbod, linux software raid etc
[08:43] <lucy> hello all
[08:43] <ganastasiou_> i want to give to all users and root permission to do everything in this directory and subfolders
[08:43] <ganastasiou_> what command should i give?
[08:43] <bullgard4> Is there a command 'seen'? "detlef@MD97600:~$ man seen; No manual entry for seen." "/help seen;  No help for seen."
[08:43] <meoblast001> can anyone tell me how to access a printer on one machine from another machine?
[08:44] <Jo__R___> at the moment i'm using this card with the vesa driver but Game grapfics are very, very low
[08:44] <GIn> ganastasiou_: chmod -R 777 /dir/here
[08:44] <lucy> #id-ubuntu
[08:44] <XTeLiS_> htop
[08:44] <XTeLiS_> An interactive process viewer for Linux. It is a text-mode application (for console or X terminals) and requires ncurses. Tested with Linux 2.4 and 2.6.
[08:44] <ganastasiou_> GIn should i reboot after this?
[08:44] <Jo__R___> *slow
[08:44] <GIn> Jo__R___: what card is it?
[08:44] <GIn> ganastasiou_: no
[08:44] <Jo__R___> ATI RADEON X700SE
[08:44] <XTeLiS_> jo_r_http://www.linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view
[08:44] <sailaway85> Ubuntu works better in window network than windows.
[08:44] <qinjuehang> Jo__R___: vesa does not have 3D
[08:44] <blinkiz> simplexio, Thanks for the help but I can't figure out how to see how much a process is taking up in MB
[08:44] <Jo__R___> i know
[08:45] <simplexio> ganastasiou_: you cant deny any rights from root.. but all : chmod a+rwx (read,write,execute ) o+rwx , other, u+rwx user, g+rwx groups (menas groups that own file)
[08:45] <Jo__R___> or... i have 3d but
[08:45] <qinjuehang> Jo__R___:therefore graphics will be cpu-accelerated and thus slow
[08:45] <simplexio> blinkiz: type top
[08:45] <meoblast001> can anyone tell me how to access a printer on one machine from another machine?
[08:45] <Jo__R___> glxgears: 3388 frames in 5.0 seconds = 672.583 FPS
[08:45] <ganastasiou_> ofc
[08:45] <blinkiz> simplexio, Yeah, no problem there.
[08:45] <Jo__R___> theforce??
[08:45] <XTeLiS_> meob: with printer networking
[08:45] <ganastasiou_> GIn and if i want to give own to me?
[08:45] <ganastasiou_> as a user
[08:45] <qinjuehang> Jo__R___: you need fglx
[08:45] <simplexio> blinkiz: then add virt+res+shr colums
[08:45] <XTeLiS_> i need to upload this dvd to my gmail
[08:46] <gatestone> Suggest some nice iconic panel utility, that constantly measures the quality of your connection? Reporting your connection status, type of IP layer connectivity (private or NATted or public), firewall status (mostly open or mostly closed inwards/outwards, a minimap of 6 continents and speed/latency  to some backbone routers there) etc...
[08:46] <qinjuehang> Jo__R___:what version are u using?
[08:46] <Jo__R___> i have installed fglrx correct and set it in in the xorg.conf
[08:46] <simplexio> blinkiz: that way you get somewhat too big total Mb proess uses
[08:46] <Jo__R___> I am using ubuntu 7.1
[08:47] <blinkiz> simplexio, It gotta exist a more simple way
[08:47] <qinjuehang> Jo__R___:and what is the problem? (didn't catch the first part, just logged in)
[08:47] <XB23> guys how do i mount  /dev/sdb to add more space to my primary hdd?
[08:47] <hischild> gatestone, sounds like you would like conky quite a bit. You can make it give you all the info you want and if it can't, it can still do so by a script.
[08:47] <GIn> ganastasiou_: chown -R user /path/here
[08:47] <meoblast001> can anyone tell me how to access a printer on one machine from another machine?
[08:47] <Jo__R___> but if i use the fglrx driver i have very slow graphics and no ogl
[08:48] <simplexio> blinkiz: actually, i dont know easier way
[08:48] <XB23> guys how do i mount  /dev/sdb to add more space to my primary hdd?
[08:48] <Jo__R___> and now it works using the vesa driver ut very slow
[08:48] <blinkiz> simplexio, okay
[08:48] <ganastasiou_> with root?
[08:48] <simplexio> blinkiz: where you need it ?
[08:48] <sah>  :o
[08:48] <Jo__R___> glxgears: 3388 frames in 5.0 seconds = 672.583 FPS
[08:48] <ganastasiou_> with sudo?
[08:48] <XTeLiS_> or... under SYSTEM - ADMINISTRATION - STORAGE DEVICE MANAGER
[08:48] <blinkiz> Am looking for a way to see how much memory a process is taking. Not in % but in MB. "top" can't do this in a easy way. No GUI tool because it will be runned on server version of ubuntu. Please advice
[08:49] <simplexio> blinkiz: why
[08:49] <XTeLiS_> JO: IVE GOT ati drivers....
[08:49] <blinkiz> simplexio, Seeing how much memory a virtual machine process is taking up.
[08:49] <XTeLiS_> hold on....
[08:49] <sailaway85> Jo__R My sysem locks up with fgrlx
[08:49] <Jo__R___> what graphics card do you have?
[08:49] <hischild> XB23, you copy a directory over your to your new hard drive and then mount it over the old directory.
[08:49] <simplexio> blinkiz: in or out vmachine ?
[08:50] <t1n0m3n> blinkiz: System > Administration > System Monitor?
[08:50] <XB23> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
[08:50] <XB23>        missing codepage or other error
[08:50] <XB23>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:50] <XB23>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:50] <FloodBot2> XB23: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <XB23> whats it mean
[08:50] <blinkiz> simplexio, In or out?
[08:50] <sailaway85> 2600hd card.... wont run in 7.1 only 8
[08:50] <t1n0m3n> blinkiz: Processes tab?
[08:50] <hischild> XB23, how are you trying to mount it?
[08:50] <blinkiz> t1n0m3n, Yes, your right. But no gui tool
[08:50] <simplexio> blinkiz: means. that are you in virtualmachine or in machine that runs vmachine
[08:50] <qinjuehang> Jo__R___:have u tried using opensource drivers?
[08:50] <tomoyuki28jp> Katapult, Gnome Do, Gnome Lanch Box, which one would be the best lancher?
[08:51] <XB23> hischild, i think i need to format it to ext3
[08:51] <XTeLiS_> file:///media/cdrom0/Essentials/ATI_driver/ati-driver-installer-8-01-x86.x86_64.run
[08:51] <Jo__R___> what open source drivers?
[08:51] <Motilun> UNOFFICIAL HELP:-  If you have image display problems  on web sites using firefox 3, try adding this to your sources.list file:- deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu hardy main
[08:51] <simplexio> blinkiz: and my mistake. Virtual column tell you bloated total of memory usage
[08:51] <hischild> XB23, are you sure you want to format the entire disk? And do you want me to guide you through it?
[08:51] <blinkiz> simplexio, It's on the host machine. Want to see how kvm is behaving with 5 virtual machines running.
[08:51] <hischild> simplexio, virtual is how much it can use at max iirc
[08:51] <simplexio> blinkiz: you can get it with ps -v too
[08:51] <XB23> yes please hischild
[08:52] <XB23> can i pm?
[08:52] <hischild> XB23, yes you can.
[08:52] <XB23> ty
[08:52] <Jo__R___> @XTeLiS_: I have installed this driver
[08:52] <Jo__R___> but it doesn't work too
[08:52] <simplexio> hischild: nope. its how much it has requested,
[08:52] <qinjuehang> Jo__R___:what is your card again?
[08:53] <Jo__R___> ATI RADEON X700SE
[08:53] <XTeLiS_> you have used this exact one ??
[08:53] <XTeLiS_> version and all
[08:53] <gatestone> yhx hischild, I will check conky
[08:53] <gatestone> thx
[08:53] <simplexio> blinkiz: actually, i thin kyou need to define max memory when starting kvm ?. attleast vbox works that way. when i start i tell it to use 800M memory and it takes that
[08:54] <Jo__R___> i used ati-driver-installer-8-3-x86.x86_64
[08:54] <blinkiz> simplexio, kvm does not work that wa.
[08:54] <blinkiz> way
[08:54] <XTeLiS_> http://ati.de/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[08:54] <blinkiz> simplexio, vbox also shares memory.
[08:55] <qinjuehang> Jo__R___:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[08:55] <meoblast001> can anyone tell me how to access a printer on one machine from another machine?
[08:55] <hischild> simplexio, isn't how much it requested more or less how much it will use? well... when coded properly etc
[08:55] <blinkiz> simplexio, vbox is not taking 800 mb if you define that as max. It will take what the running guest is needing at the moment
[08:56] <Jo__R___> @qinjuehang: i already tested this installer
[08:56] <hischild> blinkiz, vbox always uses 512 on my end, even though the guest only uses 80
[08:56] <Jo__R___> *@XTeLiS_
[08:57] <simplexio> blinkiz hischild : yes it dosent use it, but that it show in virtual column
[08:57] <XTeLiS_> http://www.driverheaven.net/linux-radeon-display-drivers/
[08:57] <DistroJockey> meoblast001: maybe CUPS will help? Visit the admin interface at the following address in your web browser:  http://localhost:631/
[08:57] <meoblast001> im using that
[08:57] <meoblast001> im following a tutorial
[08:57] <Namibian> hello #ubuntu, can anyone tell me where a program is installed after I do dpkg -i filename.deb + apt-get install -f ? i cannot find the executable, thanks :)
[08:57] <meoblast001> and it cant find the remote printer
[08:57] <hischild> Namibian, whereis <appname>
[08:58] <DistroJockey> meoblast001: using the IP number is probably the best bet
[08:58] <simplexio> blinkiz: you  could get something out from /proc/($pid)/
[08:58] <meoblast001> explain
[08:58] <Namibian> hischild: ok will try
[08:58] <meoblast001> cuz im using my IP
[08:58] <meoblast001> but its not working
[08:58] <DistroJockey> meoblast001: IP instead of the computer name
[08:58] <meoblast001> i must be doing something else wrong
[08:58] <XTeLiS_> i need to setup a small webserver
[08:58] <DistroJockey> meoblast001: ohh, wanna link me to the guide you are using?
[08:58] <simplexio> blinkiz: besides i run windows under vbox, and it takes every time all that memory
[08:58] <MarcNZ> hey guys just wondering if you could help me on a quick question
[08:58] <meoblast001> http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20040101194202284
[08:59] <MarcNZ> how do I stop ubuntu from mounting a drive automatically at startup
[08:59] <meoblast001> its a macOSX cups walktrhough
[08:59] <DistroJockey> meoblast001: and what exactly was it you are trying to do?
[08:59] <XTeLiS_> go to....
[08:59] <XTeLiS_> or... under SYSTEM - ADMINISTRATION - STORAGE DEVICE MANAGER
[09:00] <XTeLiS_> and set the options there
[09:00] <meowludo> Hi guys. I was wondering how to install 'libsdl-dev' and what it is exactly?
[09:00] <Namibian> hischild: it returned a blank entry
[09:00] <meoblast001> i have a server.... i hooked that up with my printer
[09:00] <meoblast001> now i need my laptop to connect to the server to print
[09:00] <meoblast001> i did this ipp://192.168.1.100/printers/Brother/MFC-5440CN
[09:00] <blinkiz> simplexio, okay, I have learned something else. But I can be wrong. Was running virtualbox some time ago and did some test with winxp as guest. And it did not take up all the ram I dedicated to it
[09:00] <hischild> Namibian, what are you trying to install?
[09:00] <meoblast001> my server is set up with usb://Brother/MFC-5440CN
[09:01] <Namibian> hischild: plee-the-bear
[09:01] <MarcNZ> sorry XTeLiS_ were you talking to me?
[09:01] <DistroJockey> meoblast001: your server is what OS and the one you are try to connect from is what OS?
[09:01] <hischild> Namibian, sudo updatedb && locate <name of app>
[09:01] <meoblast001> both Ubuntu (luckily)
[09:02] <meoblast001> just got rid of fedora on my server
[09:02] <simplexio> blinkiz: usually it does on my computer, but i run bloat eclipse and other dev stuff there
[09:02] <DistroJockey> meoblast001: k :)
[09:02] <Namibian> hischild: will do thanks :)
[09:02] <meoblast001> i dont use Ubuntu Server Edition... i like being able to VNC my server to do GUI maitanance so i dont have to do stupid stuff like "cp" and "mv"
[09:02] <meowludo> Does anyone know what 'libsdl-dev' is?
[09:03] <XTeLiS_> yes
[09:03] <meowludo> I am running ubuntu and am trying to install a program. It advised in the readme that i would need it.
[09:03] <lee_> Morning all if mysouncard is not on the alsa website does it mean it is certainly not going to be supported?
[09:03] <arbir> hello
[09:03] <XTeLiS_> meowludo: looking
[09:03] <meowludo> Cheers Xtelis
[09:03] <MarcNZ> it doesn't work I don't have remote storage
[09:03] <arbir> hi XTeLiS_
[09:04] <MarcNZ> What i'm trying to do is stop Ubuntu from mounting a partition when it starts up
[09:04] <MarcNZ> cause I have a Dell Utility Partition that I prefer to leave off
[09:04] <jscinoz> thanks Where does the acpi/suspend whitelist live? Suspend works fine on my laptop but i don't want to wait around for upstream to add it.
[09:04] <simplexio> blinkiz: why you cant live with that %MEM from top
[09:04] <meoblast001> DistroJockey: any ideas?
[09:05] <hischild> MarcNZ, remove it from /etc/fstab
[09:05] <DistroJockey> meoblast001: not really sorry. Hopefully the info you provided will help others to help you :)
[09:05] <arbir> when I try sudo smbpasswd -a <ussername>  , I don't see the /etc/samba/smbusers automatically created
[09:05] <lee_> is anyone using a C-Media Soundcard CMI9?
[09:06] <DistroJockey> meoblast001: any error messages?
[09:06] <arbir> does smbpasswd -a actually create a file ?
[09:06] <Tyczek> lee_, me is using c-media cmi8738-mc6
[09:07] <meoblast001> DistroJockey: im gonna try ipp instead of printers in the path
[09:07] <lee_> Tyczek: did it work on ubuntu straight away?>
[09:07] <MarcNZ> awesome thanks very much hischild
[09:07] <meoblast001> it said ipp for linux
[09:07] <blue-frog> arbir: smbusers is a file to match windows name with unix names
[09:07] <meoblast001> printers for mac
[09:07] <blinkiz> simplexio, Yeah, but it's hard to translate to MB. I want to see how much MB it's taking up vs the ram I have dedicated. It's no problem at my laptop because it's running gnome. Gnome has a nice system monitor for that.
[09:07] <simplexio> blinkiz: btw.. pmap gives nice stuff out
[09:07] <arbir> blue-frog: what happens when I do $smbpasswd -a <arbir>
[09:08] <blue-frog> arbir: you create a smb users with who you will be able to authenticate
[09:08] <arbir> blue-frog: then where is the samba passwd stored ?
[09:08] <Jo__R___> sorry, XTeLiS_ and qinjuehang but the links doesn't help me. My english is not good enough. :'(
[09:08] <meoblast001> DistroJockey: i set up samba and the other unix file sharing thing... but they only worked for a day
[09:08] <meowludo> Jo_R - what language doe you speak
[09:08] <Tyczek> lee_, it works perfectly
[09:08] <meoblast001> now they just say the folders are shared
[09:09] <simplexio> blinkiz: ps wich output virt, rsh ,shr and than parses and makes calculations, thats actualy faster solution than trying to find program for it
[09:09] <blue-frog> arbir in a special database, don't know the name. samba.org for more explanations
[09:09] <meoblast001> distrojockey: but you cant find them on other systems
[09:09] <DistroJockey> !cups | meoblast001  Maybe you will have better luck with Ubuntu links rather than MAC
[09:09] <ubotu> meoblast001  Maybe you will have better luck with Ubuntu links rather than MAC: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:09] <Tyczek> lee_, even on box, it is information it's working on linux :]
[09:09] <blinkiz> simplexio, yeah, maybe.
[09:09] <jotham> how do i see what version of ubuntu i have running from the desktop
[09:09] <jotham> is there some kind of sysinfo applet?
[09:09] <lee_> Tyczek: My C-Media CMI9761 will not work at all with microphone any ideas?
[09:09] <arbir> blue-frog: I have been looking for a while .. cannot find where smbpasswd actually writes out the passwd
[09:09] <XTeLiS_> i need to setup a small webserver
[09:09] <Gpalco> Hi, guys! Have a question: I use Gnome, but have KDE apps too. Thefont of windows in kdeapps looks different to my main theme. Which kde component I have to install to be able to change the LOOK of KDE Windows ???
[09:09]  * Stythys_ says hi
[09:09] <XTeLiS_> meowludo: accept the file
[09:10] <SNuxoll> jotham: System -> About Ubuntu
[09:10] <meowludo> ok
[09:10] <lee_> its just really bad quality
[09:10] <meowludo> will it prompt me? i am n00b :P
[09:10] <XTeLiS_> it shows a screenshot of what that file is that your asking about is
[09:10] <jotham> SNuxoll: checked there
[09:10] <Tyczek> lee_, hmm... maybe you have distorsions...
[09:10] <SNuxoll> jotham: the release will be in there
[09:10] <Tyczek> lee_, I just manipulated something with mic volume
[09:10] <jotham> oh i see, 7.10
[09:10] <AdKt> anybody here know how to allow only a domain to send mail to specified address. i mean only my domain can send to example@mydomain.com ?
[09:10] <XTeLiS_> Gpalco: kde llive 4
[09:11] <lee_> hmm have you tried running TeamSeak?
[09:11] <jotham> SNuxoll: checks man
[09:11] <lee_> *Temspeak
[09:11] <SNuxoll> jotham: np
[09:11] <Tyczek> lee_, yes... working flawlessy
[09:11] <sailaway85>  Where do I find the list of updates to install .... one is giving me a system crash with no reboot possible.  amd64-asus-ati system
[09:11] <lee_> On the TeamSpeak options which sound driver do you use?
[09:12] <XTeLiS_> add/remove programs
[09:12] <XTeLiS_> or
[09:12] <Tyczek> lee_, default
[09:12] <XTeLiS_> can you get to the main login screen ?
[09:12] <dthacker-work> AdKt: are you using postfix for your MTA?
[09:12] <blue-frog> arbir: want to see samba users, use pdbedit
[09:12] <AdKt> dthacker-work: postfix
[09:12] <lee_> hmm my mic just has like a ringing noise and is really muffled
[09:13] <arbir> blue-frog: looking into pdbedit
[09:13] <XTeLiS_> whats a quick little webserver i can install real quick ?
[09:13] <Tyczek> lee_, you can join ts.k-ow.net, i', here and I can show you how it works
[09:13] <XTeLiS_> jo_r_http://www.linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view
[09:13] <meowludo> can you upload the file m?to yousendit.co
[09:13] <meoblast001> DistroJockey: i love GNOME
[09:13] <meowludo> *yousendit.com
[09:13] <DistroJockey> meoblast001: me too :)
[09:14] <meoblast001> it told me type in the IP
[09:14] <meoblast001> so i typed it in
[09:14] <DistroJockey> hehe
[09:14] <meoblast001> then hit Find Queue
[09:14] <AdKt> dthacker-work: i want only my domain can send to example@mydomain.com other that that discard and system send msg to sender about the failure.
[09:14] <meoblast001> it found every printer on my server
[09:14] <arbir> blue-frog: super, it works like a charm.. thanks so much
[09:14] <Tyczek> lee_, can you hear me
[09:14] <Tyczek> ?
[09:14] <DistroJockey> meoblast001: excellent :)
[09:14] <lee_> Yeh
[09:14] <lee_> can you hear me?
[09:14] <debian__> i have a slight problem with ubuntu. for some reason now ... gaim. kmess take ages to sign in and the internet is being really slow ... owrks fine on my other pc ... any ideas ?
[09:14] <Tyczek> wait... i need choose button for voice
[09:14] <debian__> works*
[09:14] <dthacker-work> AdKt: you'll have to go read the recipes on postfix.org.
[09:15] <lee_> how does my mic sound?
[09:15] <Tyczek> I can hear you, but really but
[09:15] <kakoonia> Hi...
[09:15] <Tyczek> bad
[09:15] <Tyczek> *
[09:15] <lee_> yeh thats the problem
[09:15] <jscinoz> hey guys, pm-hibernate works perfectly for me, as does pm-suspend (however it must be passed the --force option) however pm-suspend-hybrid doesnt work because i can't pass it the --force option so it only suspends to disk, rather than both, any ideas?
[09:15] <Tyczek> hmm wait
[09:15] <kakoonia> whats the best dock for ubuntu you guys used?
[09:15] <AdKt> dthacker-work: isn't it filter by procmail or postfix can do it ?
[09:15] <Tyczek> in capture i have mic vol 100 %
[09:15] <Tyczek> Oo
[09:15] <Tyczek> and it works
[09:16] <bouma> could someone help me, i installed the googleearth-package, and ran make-googleearth-package
[09:16] <Tyczek> maybe there is a problem with mic?
[09:16] <bouma> but it doesnt fetch the url
[09:16] <lee_> it works fine in XP
[09:16] <dthacker-work> Adkt: I'm not sure, you could ask in #postfix
[09:16] <lee_> and capture is on 100%
[09:16] <Tyczek> lee_, hmm... maybe this card works poor with alsa, or you need latest version
[09:16] <AdKt> ok
[09:17] <lee_> yeh thats what i though bu there are no drivers on alsa websiote so i dont think its properly supported
[09:17] <Tyczek> lee_, you can try always :]
[09:17] <debian__> i have a slight problem with ubuntu. for some reason now ... gaim. kmess take ages to sign in and the internet is being really slow ... wprks fine on my other pc ... any ideas ?
[09:17] <lee_> haha yeh
[09:17] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[09:17] <lee_> thanks for the help bro
[09:17] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[09:17] <DistroJockey> lee_: have you looked at the settings using the following command from a terminal?:   alsamixer
[09:17] <Tyczek> lee_, np :]
[09:18] <SNuxoll> !repeat | debian__
[09:18] <ubotu> debian__: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:18] <lee_> yeh in alsamixer everything seems to be on that i think should be
[09:18] <e_r_c_e> HELLO!!!               <e_r_c_e> if i have firestarter installed, it blocks ports
 and what will happen with those ports if i uninstall it? will they became open??
[09:18] <DistroJockey> lee_: *nods*
[09:18] <SNuxoll> debian__: chances are your problem is IPv6
[09:19] <Gpalco> XTeLiS_, why KDE live 4 ???
[09:19] <debian__> SNuxoll: needs to be disabled ?
[09:19] <SNuxoll> debian__: probably
[09:19] <e_r_c_e> HI
 if i have firestarter installed, it blocks ports
 and what will happen with those ports if i uninstall it? will they became open??
[09:20] <debian__> i didn't think i opted for it on installation
[09:20] <SNuxoll> debian__: it installs by default
[09:20] <debian__> damn
[09:21] <SNuxoll> debian__: the following guide may help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202838
[09:21] <DistroJockey> !firestarter | e_r_c_e
[09:21] <ubotu> e_r_c_e: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:22] <debian__> !IPv6
[09:22] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:22] <debian__> sweet
[09:22] <SNuxoll> debian__: have fun :)
[09:22] <debian__> thanks =)
[09:23] <debian__> i have another question in a mo ... give me 2
[09:24] <debian__> add this line were : blacklist ipv6 .... anywere ?
[09:24] <guest_> ..
[09:24] <guest_> hi
[09:24] <debian__> hi
[09:25] <SNuxoll> debian__: yup
[09:25] <guest_> i got grub error
[09:25] <guest_> how can i fix that?
[09:25] <hischild> !grub | guerby
[09:25] <ubotu> guerby: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:25] <guest_> i use 2 os ....
[09:25] <hischild> !grub | guest_
[09:25] <ubotu> guest_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:25] <SNuxoll> debian__: add it to the end of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:25] <neogojira> guest_,  format c:
[09:25]  * debian__ is using yaboot *grins*
[09:25] <neogojira> ^
[09:25] <debian__> SNuxoll: i know :D
[09:25] <SNuxoll> debian__: good :)
[09:25] <SNuxoll> debian__: I don't have to hold your hand, I like that
[09:25] <Crshman> hi all, how can i add an icon to the Applications menu?
 ... that's the last thing i'll do
[09:25] <neogojira> for sure
[09:26] <e_r_c_e> DistroJockey, what if i have FIRESTARER making this problem?
[09:26] <debian__> Crshman: using which desktop ?
[09:26] <Crshman> gnome
[09:26] <neogojira> guest_, try to edit boot record in boot grub
[09:26] <SNuxoll> Crshman: right click the applications menu and click "edit menu"
[09:26] <debian__> my words exactly :)
[09:26] <guest_> neogojira ... how can i edit?
[09:26] <neogojira> "e"
[09:26] <neogojira> on the line you want to edit
[09:27] <neogojira> just read what it said after editing
[09:27] <neogojira> and "b" to boot
[09:27] <e_r_c_e> !firestarter
[09:27] <debian__> ok. 1 more question. i need flash but i'm running PPC .. i see adobe does no flash for PPC ... is there any alternatives ?
[09:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:27] <kane__> how can I open app in gnome on some workspace?
[09:27] <DistroJockey> e_r_c_e: as far as I can see, it just modifies the iptables
[09:27] <jotham> hi, i want to setup an internet gateway, normally i'd use some bash scripts and ipchains or whatever, but i figure now i'm using ubuntu instead of debian i should find some nice GUI tool for it, any suggestions?
[09:27] <debian__> kane__:  refrase
[09:27] <Crshman> SNuxoll, thanks!
[09:28] <SNuxoll> Crshman: no problem
[09:28] <guest_> how can i use command to edit grub?
[09:28] <guest_> how can i use command in terminal to edit grub?
[09:28] <e_r_c_e> DistroJockey, what does it adds in iptables, so it blocks  * -> my apache, *>VNC??
[09:28] <debian__> quite a broad question
[09:28] <debian__> what command
[09:29] <guest_> command to edit grub
[09:29] <kane__> debian__, let's say at startup I want to open program on let's say workspace 3.. is there some possibility to do so? (I know that there is devilspie that can do that, but I want to know if there is some native way to do it)
[09:29] <DistroJockey> e_r_c_e: Not real sure, never used it. Maybe it is also the routers firewall?
[09:30] <e_r_c_e> NOPE
[09:30] <e_r_c_e> eveery time
[09:30] <debian__> well surely you can just click on the desktop and open and application ?
[09:30] <guest_> !edit grub
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edit grub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <ubuntunoob> vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:30] <simplexio> blinkiz: guest_ nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:30] <e_r_c_e> i had to shtu down firewall on my ubuntu to let anyone conn. to my apache and VNC
[09:30] <luke__> hi there, how do i uninstall kde4 from my ubuntu installation?
[09:30] <simplexio> ups..
[09:31] <debian__> luke__:  i take it your using kubuntu ?
[09:31] <luke__> debian__, so its the default installation of ubuntu
[09:31] <debian__> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[09:31] <debian__> oh
[09:31] <luke__> i tried kde4 but found it terribly sluggish
[09:31] <debian__> errm ... change session ?
[09:31] <debian__> yeah it sucks
[09:31] <guest_> thanks
[09:31] <e_r_c_e> Luke__: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:31] <luke__> debian__, that's fine but i also want to reclaim the space
[09:31] <debian__> yano. i've never uninstalled an app on ubuntu
[09:32] <papachango> hello
[09:32] <luke__> e_r_c_e, no i want to remove it not install it
[09:32] <T1m0thy> I would do 'sudo apt-get remove kde*'
[09:32] <DistroJockey> e_r_c_e: Not sure sorry. That link does explain a fair bit though. Maybe the issue is with Apache and VNC if it's not with iptables?
[09:32] <e_r_c_e> luke__,  sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[09:32] <papachango> im  new usiing ubuntu and  i need help
[09:32] <e_r_c_e> NOPE
[09:32] <hischild> !ask | papachango
[09:32] <ubotu> papachango: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:32] <DistroJockey> e_r_c_e: No need to shout. I give up then.
[09:32] <debian__> luke__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=668996
[09:33] <e_r_c_e> DistroJockey, cant ya see? i had to shut down firewall via firestarter to allow any comp to connect to my apache!
[09:33] <luke__> T1m0thy, i tried that but it says it was never installed 'Package kde is not installed, so not removed
[09:33] <luke__> '
[09:33] <debian__> brb reboot
[09:33] <simplexio> e_r_c_e: if i remeber correcly, firestarter defines default policy to DROP
[09:33] <papachango> ok im  trying to connect my wireless card
[09:33] <debian__> gotta get rid of this IPv6 crap
[09:33] <T1m0thy> luke__, ah alright, what about what the other guys said, 'sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop'
[09:33] <DistroJockey> e_r_c_e: And you read that whole doc that was provided?
[09:34] <papachango> this is my second time i install ubuntu
[09:34] <luke__> T1m0thy, its says kbuntu-desktop not installed
[09:34] <harsh1> How to create another new network connection in Ubuntu 7.10?
[09:34] <simplexio> e_r_c_e: what it means that if you dont allow something its automatically dropped
[09:35] <T1m0thy> luke__, could you go to synaptic and search 'kde' and see if any of it is installed?
[09:35] <simplexio> harsh1: bit more information needed
[09:35] <papachango> the first time my wirelless was working and now it does not
[09:35] <threefcata> hi i made some changes to user.reg of wine, but everytime i run wine all the changes are reversed anyone knows why?
[09:36] <luke__> ok cheer
[09:36] <harsh1> Sure, I changed my Internet Service Provider and I was unable to access Internet from the new connection.
[09:36] <T1m0thy> What, luke__?
[09:36] <papachango> i can see on top of my screen wireless enable but it wont pick up any network
[09:36] <luke__> T1m0thy, i meant to say cheers, thanks
[09:36] <T1m0thy> Oh alright, no problem. :)
[09:36] <luke__> sorry typo
[09:37] <simplexio> harsh1: still more information, connection type, modem, adsl dial-up? ppoe what it uses ?
[09:37] <papachango> adls
[09:37] <meowludo> How's it going XTeLiS? is there anything i can help with?
[09:37] <simplexio> harsh1: and it should work same way that it did at first time when configured it
[09:37] <papachango> i have a wireless router
[09:38] <papachango> does any one know how to fix this problem
[09:38] <harsh1> Connection type = Wired connection ( Broadband), Modem=UT300R2U.
[09:40] <kakoonia> whats the best dock for ubuntu you guys used?
[09:40] <harsh1> I am sorry, I am unaware about the ppoe.
[09:40] <papachango> so any one know how to fix wireless connections
[09:40] <kakoonia> papachango whats the prob?
[09:41] <harsh1> When I approched my Internet Service Provider they replied we have to create a "new Network connection in Ubuntu that would replace the existing one"
[09:41] <papachango> my wireless card won't pick up any network
[09:41] <luke__> T1m0thy, hi there, searching for Synaptic it gives me all the packages in the sources not the one installated
[09:41] <luke__> am i doing something wrong here?
[09:41] <papachango> i can see that it is connected but it does not work
[09:42] <T1m0thy> Nope, that's what we wanted, luke__. Are any of the boxes darkened?
[09:42] <|Debian|> i think that may have fixed my IPv6 ... webrowser is still a bit slow though =/ wasn't before. i havn't touched any confs ... strange.
[09:42] <kakoonia> papachango : try to disable all networking and turn off the wireless card(through the laptop switch if its a laptop) then switch on card and enable
[09:42] <luke__> yes
[09:42] <luke__> ok so manually remove all the ones which are marked
[09:43] <solom> السلام عليكم
[09:43] <T1m0thy> Oh geez.
[09:43] <DanielRM> ...
[09:43] <|Debian|> NETSPLITTTTTTT
[09:43] <hischild> here we go again
[09:43] <|Debian|> woot
[09:43] <hischild> !traffic
[09:43] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[09:43] <DanielRM> ^^
[09:43] <noob-africa> hi all
[09:43] <|Debian|> hi
[09:44] <solom> مين هنا عبقرى لينكس
[09:44] <noob-africa> hischild: hey bro... u lost... where u been?
[09:44] <luke__> solom, english please
[09:44] <unop__> !ar | solom
[09:44] <ubotu> solom: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe
[09:44] <hischild> noob-africa, what?
[09:44] <unop__> oops
[09:44] <solom> why is this an arabic or english community ?
[09:44] <T1m0thy> Alright, luke__, on the bottom left, click 'Status'. Then, on the left, click 'Installed'. Tell me when you're done with that.
[09:44] <noob-africa> hischild: i havent seen u around a while...
[09:44] <laffinet> Hi I need help, I lost my login window
[09:44] <|Debian|> Linux version 2.6.15-51-powerpc (buildd@royal) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 Tue Feb 12 16:54:18 UTC 2008
[09:44] <hischild> noob-africa, true
[09:44] <|Debian|> woot
[09:44] <|Debian|> =D
[09:44] <unop__> !arabic | solom
[09:44] <ubotu> solom: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[09:44] <noob-africa> hischild: r u familiar with chatzilla?
[09:44] <hischild> solom, this is the english channel.
[09:44] <DistroJockey> heyya noob-africa, wb! :)
[09:44] <|Debian|> laffinet:  what you mean lost ?
[09:45] <hischild> noob-africa, no
[09:45] <noob-africa> thanks DistroJockey
[09:45] <|Debian|> like doesn't load at all ?
[09:45] <luke__> T1m0thy, getting there, selecting all of them for removal
[09:45] <solom> so why English
[09:45] <solom>  if this is an Arabic channel !!???
[09:45] <|Debian|> LOL
[09:45] <DistroJockey> !ar
[09:45] <T1m0thy> luke__, alright, you can do that too.
[09:45] <ubotu> La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe
[09:45] <|Debian|> dude ... ubuntu-ar
[09:45] <DistroJockey> oops
[09:45] <unop__> solom, see the message from ubotu above
[09:45] <harsh1> Hello simplexio, shall I post my reply again?
[09:45] <laffinet> Debian: my system boots normally but instead of he login window I get a black screen and the running mouse pointer
[09:45] <hischild> solom, this is an english channel. Please join the appropriate channel for your language if you wish to speak your native language.
[09:45] <solom> yes yes i got it .. thank you
[09:46] <|Debian|> uhmmmm. that's rather strange laffinet ... give me a sec
[09:46] <ganastasiou_> hi i need help with a dns server
[09:46] <papachango> still does not work
[09:46] <T1m0thy> luke__, just ignore what I just said about the status and installed if you are selecting them all separately it was just a different way to see them.
[09:46] <solom> its okay never mind .. i am pealse to be here with the linux geeks what ever the language is :)
[09:46] <DanielRM> lol
[09:46] <DistroJockey> welcome solom :)
[09:47] <solom> thanks 	<DistroJockey>	:). so ... this is ma first time here .. and i am a windows admin.. but i want to migrate for ever to linux ...
[09:47] <|Debian|> laffinet: bare with me. IPv6 is f**king my net up.. bit slow at the mo
[09:47] <solom> i need the advise from the experts
[09:47] <DistroJockey> solom: same here :)
[09:47] <solom> ops heheheh
[09:47] <holek> hey hey. I've got a monitor (some CTX monitor, known in Linux as Generic) on Radeon 9550 that does supports the resolution 1280x1024@85, but I can't see this in "Change resolution" dialog (and just don't know which line in xorg.conf covers vertical sync). What can I do? Is there any program that forces driver to use certain resolution? I had similar problem in Windows, but there I had AtiTrayTools, in which I overrided monitor modes. How can I d
[09:48] <unop__> solom, what do you need to know?
[09:48] <lartza_> How do I remove the bottom panel?
[09:49] <laffinet> Debian: you're still there ?
[09:49] <DistroJockey> lartza_: Right-click in a blank spot and chose Delete This Panel
[09:49] <|Debian|> laffinet:
[09:49] <|Debian|> you here ?
[09:49] <lartza_> DisstroJockey: And then the panel will be back after reboot?
[09:49] <harsh1> I am unable to access Internet after changing my Internet Service Provider, When I approched my Internet Service Provider they replied we have to create a "new Network connection in Ubuntu that would replace the existing one", how to do this on Ubuntu 7.10
[09:49] <solom> unop__>	 than you for your care ... i want to know from where should i start .. i think Linux is complicated much than microzift so i need a simple start .. and step by step to get to the target " i want to be administrator on Linux... and migrate all our small business needs to Linux"
[09:50] <laffinet> Debian: yep I'm here
[09:50] <|Debian|> laffinet: i think i got a solution
[09:50] <DistroJockey> lartza_: nope
[09:50] <|Debian|> laffinet: ok do ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg .. in recovery mode.
[09:50] <DistroJockey> lartza_: except if you are on a live CD
[09:50] <luke__> so when the new version of ubuntu comes, can i upgrade the entire system without having to download the iso etc
[09:50] <laffinet> Debian: I'll try, hang on
[09:50] <hischild> luke__, yes
[09:50] <|Debian|> laffinet: ok =)
[09:51] <lartza_> Ok, how do I install awn plugins then?
[09:51] <luke__> thanks
[09:51] <simplexio> harsh1: umm.. cant help
[09:51] <flame> why thread:"evolution data server 2.22" 100%-->CPU what can i do?
[09:52] <harsh1> ok, thanks for trying simplexio.
[09:52] <DistroJockey> !awn | lartza_
[09:52] <ubotu> lartza_: Avant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that positions itself at the bottom of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager is included in Universe for Hardy, installation instructions for Gutsy can be found here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-avant-window-navigator-awn-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[09:52] <unop__> solom, well, each business is different, without knowing what your business's infrastructure is like, it's hard to suggest what you should do. tell us more about what your windows machines do at the moment.
[09:52] <flame> why thread:"evolution data server 2.22" 100%-->CPU what can i do?
[09:52] <DistroJockey> flame: kill it
[09:52] <simplexio> harsh1: just edit that old conf.. i dont know wbout those. i have  ethernet
[09:53] <flame> i didn't know ,what is it useful
[09:53] <DistroJockey> flame: in terminal, do:  killall evolution
[09:53] <lartza_> is july before august? :P
[09:53] <holek> yeha
[09:53] <papachango> does any one knows how to confgure wireless connections ?
[09:53] <DistroJockey> flame: with sudo infrount
[09:53] <flame> thanks
[09:53] <unop__> !wireless | papachango
[09:53] <ubotu> papachango: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:54] <solom> unop__>	
[09:54] <solom> could u please talk  in private ??
[09:54] <harsh1> ok.
[09:54] <laffinet> Debian: I get "package xserver-org is not installed and no info is available"
[09:54] <simplexio> harsh1: probably only thing you need to do is change user and password in somewhere there
[09:54] <|Debian|> Paper:
[09:54] <|Debian|> oops
[09:54] <|Debian|> lol
[09:54] <unop__> solom, it's better we talk in here as other people can learn and also contribute
[09:54] <|Debian|> laffinet: give me a sec again.
[09:54] <solom> sure
[09:54] <DistroJockey> flame: I am assuming you don't use evolution :)
[09:54] <|Debian|> rather odd situation
[09:56] <harsh1> simplexio: I tried that it did't work, ISP representative was giving me steps for Windows XP.
[09:56] <DistroJockey> flame: if that's the case, to stop it coming back after reboot, do:   sudo apt-get remove evolution-data-server
[09:56] <solom> i have a domino mail server internal and external , SQL server "client server application ", print  server, its work group not domain due to licensing of microzift :) 2 branches one HQ
[09:56] <solom> 40 desktop, lease line 1 M VPN/MPLS for branches to share internet olnly
[09:56] <flame> thank you 谢谢
[09:56] <DistroJockey> flame: you're welcome
[09:57] <unop__> DistroJockey, that will essentially remove evolution too tho.
[09:57] <solom> i have no experiance more than installation fedora once :)
[09:57] <DistroJockey> unop__: yup :)
[09:57] <DistroJockey> unop__: I did ask if it was used :)
[09:57] <lartza_> wwhere do i put audacious plugins?
[09:57] <kadath> hi guys
[09:57] <|Debian|> laffinet:  still looking. bare with me.
[09:57] <lartza_> nvm
[09:57] <jotham> how can i set ubuntu up so i can connect to it with microsoft terminal services client or similar? (i'd rather use that than vnc...but i have vnc too) i'd like it to actually furnish the user a new login session rather than using the current login user in ubuntu
[09:58] <unop__> DistroJockey, and from the output of 'apt-cache rdepends evolution-data-server' it appears gnome-panel, pidgin and a few others depend on it.
[09:58] <DistroJockey> unop__: It is strange that some have issues with the evolution-data-server using 100% cpu, and not others
[09:58] <moDumass> hey all
[09:58] <solom> so i want to migrate to linux phases by phases .. first learning .. then swith my desktop O.S "vista" to what ever distro "ubuntu as example then do all the admin task with the ubuntu then switch to server installation
[09:58] <moDumass> hey all, um, i have a nas a linksys nas200 and in this nas i have 1X200gig drive and a newly installed 500gig drive, i can see the 200giger but cant see the 500giger
[09:58] <solom> so please advice
[09:58] <DistroJockey> unop__: The following packages will be REMOVED:    ekiga evolution evolution-data-server evolution-exchange evolution-plugins
[09:58] <DistroJockey> unop__: for the remove command I gave
[09:59] <moDumass> solom, dualboot with ubuntu
[09:59] <moDumass> so install ubuntu on the same machine
[09:59] <solom> okay then
[10:00] <solom> and what about the data on the machine ?
[10:00] <jrgp> +
[10:00] <jrgp> --
[10:00] <|Debian|> laffinet: pm me ?
[10:00] <moDumass> !dualboot
[10:00] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[10:00] <moDumass> solom read what ubotu just said
[10:01] <solom> wooow all these indo thanks ... and witch distro specially i download ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[10:01] <honeypot> excuse..somebody know how can i let ubuntu starting in text mode not in X mode
[10:01] <moDumass> so you install it and dont touch the Vista install
[10:01] <laffinet> Debian: ok. how? sorry, a bit new to this. not computers in general...
[10:01] <moDumass> then use Samba to look at the windows hdd
[10:01] <|Debian|> laffinet: pm
[10:01] <|Debian|> lol
[10:01] <XB23> guys when creating a virtual disk, when it only allow you to specify what hdd space you actually have
[10:02] <bullgard4> Is there a command 'seen'? "detlef@MD97600:~$ man seen; No manual entry for seen." "/help seen;  No help for seen."
[10:02] <moDumass> XB23, yeh that makes sense though doesnt it?
[10:02] <|Debian|> james i thought you were leet
[10:02] <laffinet> Debian: where do I pm you ?
[10:02] <DistroJockey> honeypot: Tried "Recovery Mode"?
[10:02] <|Debian|> laffinet: what client are you using for mirc ?
[10:03] <solom> moDumass & unop__ thank you very much
[10:03] <laffinet> > +
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[10:03] <laffinet> <|Deb
[10:03] <laffinet> > +
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[10:03] <laffinet> <|Deb
[10:03] <FloodBot3> laffinet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:03] <_coredump_> moinsen
[10:03] <unop__> bullgard4, seen does not appear to be a command. what is the full path name you have there?  which seen
[10:03] <I_reck> bullgard4: type $PATH and look in those files listed - it's not on my comp
[10:03] <jotham> mmm curry
[10:04] <unop__> solom, it'd be better if you did it phase by phase as you said .. first migrate over file and print servers - samba provides this on linux, postfix can replace your domino servers, as for the sql server and applications, mysql can replace this but this might need more work as the applications might need to be ported over to mysql
[10:04] <laffinet> oops, sorry
[10:04] <kadko> Hello how can i install fusion for compiz on ubuntu hardy?
[10:04] <|Debian|> XB23:  hows calipop ?
[10:04] <DistroJockey> !register | laffinet
[10:04] <ubotu> laffinet: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[10:04] <honeypot> DistroJockey: not at all, i just want it setting textmode as default mode
[10:04] <unop__> solom, you'll find it useful if you read a few papers and tutorials on how to migrate over, that will help in the process
[10:04] <holek> hey hey. I've got a monitor (some CTX monitor, known in Linux as Generic) on Radeon 9550 that does supports the resolution 1280x1024@85, but I can't see this in "Change resolution" dialog (and just don't know which line in xorg.conf covers vertical sync). What can I do? Is there any program that forces driver to use certain resolution? I had similar problem in Windows, but there I had AtiTrayTools, in which I overrided monitor modes. How can I d
[10:04] <moDumass> solom, if you have never used a NIX system, Id jsut get a live cd, and play around with it for a bit, then install it on a seperate partition and play for a bit then migrate stuff across
[10:05] <DistroJockey> honeypot: ahh, k. Not sure on that. (yet ;) )
[10:05] <moDumass> linux is awesome, but its not idiot friendly, and ive broken it many times
[10:05] <kadko> Hello how can i install fusion for compiz on ubuntu hardy?
[10:05] <laffinet> Debian: bear with me, I'm getting there
[10:05] <honeypot> DistroJockey: oh..ok..thank for your trying
[10:05] <|Debian|> laffinet: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62911/
[10:05] <|Debian|> try that
[10:05] <DistroJockey> honeypot: np
[10:06] <noob-africa> later y'all
[10:06] <nysosym> h ithere
[10:06] <DistroJockey> honeypot: from a ubuntu forum:  "you must delete the link /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm (or S99kdm if you use KDE)"
[10:06] <nysosym> such a shame, the macbook wifi doesn't work out of the box in hardy
[10:06] <pc05_> haloo
[10:07] <bullgard4> unop__ , I_reck I am not sure that 'ssen' is a Linux command. Is it perhaps an Irssi or IRC command?
[10:07] <solom>  moDumass..mmm.. thanks
[10:07] <solom> unop__>	 if u dont mind should i start with CBT like linux + to or RHCE or any training videos to understand and get the hand on task
[10:07] <solom> and what you opinion..
[10:07] <DistroJockey> honeypot: check into that first though
[10:07] <|Debian|> laffinet: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62911/
[10:07] <unop__> bullgard4, have a look here - http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=seen&mode=exactfilename&suite=gutsy
[10:07] <DistroJockey> honeypot: sounds about right to me though
[10:07] <Jordan_U> 1
[10:08] <honeypot> DistroJockey: oh thanks i am so appreciate
[10:08] <DistroJockey> honeypot: you're welcome
[10:09] <unop__> solom, i'm not sure a training video will give you enough - the best way to learn this is to do it, setup a lab environment and start to deploy out the technologies you need - the videos can supplement but are not enough
[10:09] <|Debian|> laffinet: you here ?
[10:09] <Quintin> http://pastebin.ca/982138  <--  any help?
[10:09] <laffinet> Debian: can you help me registering my nock so I can pm you
[10:10] <DistroJockey> honeypot: sysvconfig  is a nice front end that will let you remove gdm
[10:10] <unop__> !register | laffinet
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[10:10] <|Debian|> laffinet: /msg nickserv register password
[10:10] <DistroJockey> honeypot: and any other services for that matter
[10:11] <|Debian|> laffinet: just look at this link,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62911/
[10:12] <user1> how can i know what card= and what tuner= i have for my tv card ?
[10:12] <p33> hey ppl...ive forgot what to do when VLC doesnt play files stored on a samba network share
[10:12] <I_reckn> user1:  lspci  in a terminal
[10:12] <steph33560> Hi all :)
[10:13] <solom> unop__ and how newbie Linux user to made it self study dear .. this is not installation windows xp man and just wizard and few click and well done .. volaa windows has been installed with all the package :) .. please tell me exactly what to do in the first phase what exactly do i need example " 2 pc or one pc with VMware ... ubunto server , .. extra "
[10:13] <moDumass> wow, i hae no idea what he just said
[10:13] <moDumass> take the blue pill
[10:14] <steph33560> When I read a video in Avidemux, it's hashed
[10:14] <sbingner> solom, next, next, typical, finish plz
[10:14] <|Debian|> anyone know why my internet is being really sluggish ... it's fine on the other pc ... i've disabled IPv6
[10:14] <steph33560> What's to do to read fluidly a video in avidemux ?
[10:14] <unop__> solom, ubuntu is pretty much the same, pop the CD in boot up, use the wizard, and ubuntu is installed with all the packages needed for a desktop :)
[10:14] <kadko> How can i install the fusion for compiz?
[10:15] <harsh1> How to create a new network connection in ubuntu 7.10?
[10:15] <solom> sbingner> sorry didn't understand what your means
[10:15] <user1> how can i know what card= and what tuner= i have for my tv card ?
[10:16] <unop__> solom, if you are learning, you should try and not use vmware, install ubuntu on it's own parition (see !dualboot) .. if you are setting up a lab to test migration out, well that depends on how many servers you have on the network currently
[10:16] <DistroJockey> |Debian|: all network traffic is slow or just in some apps?
[10:16] <solom> unop__ okay lets stop talking and start the work ... i will burn the cd and start the installation .. after finished i'll get back to you dear
[10:17] <solom> but if u dont mind could u please give me your Yahoo or MSN ID ??
[10:17] <|Debian|> DistroJockey: gaim takes years to login ... and webrowser is slow
[10:17] <thoreauputic> !u
[10:17] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[10:17] <DistroJockey> |Debian|: Firefox?
[10:17] <solom> thank you all for your time and help and support
[10:17] <moDumass> |Debian| mines doin that too, have you tried opera, mines only crap on mozilla browsers
[10:17] <|Debian|> no it's not that
[10:18] <|Debian|> it was working fine the other day
[10:18] <harsh1> I am unable to access Internet after changing my ISP, please help?
[10:18] <holek> ehh... that'll last long, 145 package updates
[10:18] <Quintin> harsh1: check DNS settings
[10:18] <DistroJockey> |Debian|: k
[10:18] <unop__> solom, i don't usually give you details like that here -- and it wouldnt be fair if i gave you my ID, #ubuntu here is always available for help if you need it
[10:19] <|Debian|> i've turned off IPv6 .. can't figure it out.
[10:19] <Quintin> harsh1: "sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.bu"  "sudo echo nameserver 4.2.2.2 > /etc/resolv.conf"
[10:20] <moDumass> |Debian| what size have you set your cache to be?
[10:20] <harsh1> Quintin: Thanks for reply,  I contacted my ISP, they replied "You will need to create a new network connection which replaces the old one.", how to do that on Ubuntu 7.10?
[10:20] <thoreauputic> Quintin: 1) the sudo echo command won't work 2) you don't know if it's a dns problem
[10:20] <|Debian|> moDumass: i havn't touched it
[10:20] <Quintin> thoreauputic: 1) it very well could be 2) backup resolv.conf so it's fine 3) numbered lists are stupid :)
[10:21] <Quintin> harsh1: Well, what kind of internet connection do you have?
[10:21] <XB23> can i use wildcards in apt
[10:21] <bazhang> harsh1: this is via dsl connected to a router?
[10:21] <solom> sure i understand your point of view .. and thank you for your support my dear friend .. meet u again after installation this ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso ... or u have any comments before installation
[10:21] <XB23> like  apt-get remove apache*
[10:21] <T1m0thy> Yes, XB23.
[10:21] <Quintin> solom: why 6.10?  kind of old
[10:21] <XB23> wicked
[10:21] <harsh1> Quintin: Yes
[10:21] <solom> Quintin
[10:21] <solom> mmm i dont know i download it from the site
[10:22] <thoreauputic> Quintin: the sudo echo will not work - you need something like  echo "foo" | sudo tee /etc/resolve.conf ( see the RootSudo wiki page)
[10:22] <solom> is there other new one
[10:22] <DistroJockey> |Debian|: something I used a while back:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62912/
[10:22] <unop__> solom, just acquaint yourself with a dual  boot scenario, thats all
[10:22] <|Debian|> XB23:  hows cali
[10:22] <dra> hello
[10:22] <bazhang> solom: better to get a newer one, that one may not be supported any longer
[10:22] <dra> hello
[10:22] <Quintin> harsh1: are you using the same computer to talk to us here?
[10:22] <solom> ops
[10:22] <|Debian|> DistroJockey: ty
[10:22] <thoreauputic> Quintin: interesting how you managed to imply stupidity when you had just given inaccurate advice ;)
[10:22] <solom> excuse me i am confused
[10:22] <Pablos> hallo
[10:22] <DistroJockey> |Debian|: np, hope it helps
[10:23] <|Debian|> me too :)
[10:23] <DistroJockey> |Debian|: is not distro specific
[10:23] <harsh1> Yes, with my old ISP.
[10:23] <thoreauputic> s/resolve/resolv  ( my typo)
[10:23] <|Debian|> np
[10:23] <bazhang> solom: you likely will want to get version 7.10; it is the latest stable version and supported very well now
[10:23] <solom> plz give me the URL to download the latest ver. if u dont mind
[10:24] <solom> thank you bazhang
[10:24] <harsh1> Quintin: Yes.
[10:24] <bazhang> solom: www.ubuntu.com/download should have it
[10:24] <harsh1> Quintin: I am using my old ISP to connect to Internet.
[10:25] <Quintin> harsh1: What is the type of connection?
[10:25] <DistroJockey> bazhang, solom: If you can wait, 8.04 is only 12 days away :)
[10:25]  * N3bunel saluta
[10:25] <bazhang> DistroJockey: hehe already there ;]
[10:25] <Quintin> harsh1: I would just try getting DHCP lease
[10:25] <solom> Ubuntu 7.10 - Supported to 2009 and Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 2009 ?? !!
[10:25] <DistroJockey> bazhang: me too, just thought I'd mention it :)
[10:26] <harsh1> Quintin: My new connection is Broadband connection.
[10:26] <DistroJockey> solom: 8.04 (due out in 12 days) is LTS also
[10:26] <bazhang> solom: yes, but the latest version has many more features ;]
[10:26] <Quintin> harsh1: Do you have any connectivity at all with the new connection?  What have you tried so far?    what kind of connection is it?
[10:27] <bullgard4> unop__: I have got it: In the channel #ubuntu-de there is a bot called 'shetlandpony'. shetlandpony accepts a command ',seen <Nick>'.
[10:27] <|Debian|> eggdrop
[10:27] <user1> how can i know what card= and what tuner= i have for my tv card ?
[10:27] <harsh1> Quintin: No I don't have any connectivity, it is an wired Broadband connection.
[10:28] <Jordan_U> !seen | bullgard4
[10:28] <ubotu> bullgard4: The seen function has not been operational for a long time.  Use /msg seenserv seen nickname instead.
[10:28] <bazhang> harsh1: you have a router between you and the dsl modem?
[10:28] <solom> mmm .. this will lead me t o another question .. if i  installed the ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso .. can i upgrade to the new version with the last features updates ?? or should i download the new one once again .. coz if i could upgrade so this is better to learn how to upgrade :) if not so i will download the new version ;)
[10:29] <ailean> guys, can anyone tell me where plugins should be placed for firefox?  I'm trying to put in the adobe version of flash but it's not working(!)
[10:29] <harsh1> Quintin: No.
[10:29] <bazhang> solom: you could, but you would have to install 7.04 in between
[10:29] <Jordan_U> ailean, Just use the install script
[10:29] <harsh1> bazhang: No.
[10:29] <ailean> Jordan_U, have done, but doesn't work with firefox 3
[10:30] <kadko> HOW CAN I INSTALL FUSION FOR MANAGE COMPIZ!!?
[10:30] <bazhang> harsh1 any plans on getting one in the near future? that way you could connect multiple computers
[10:30] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: Thank you very much for your information.
[10:30] <user1> how can i know does the latest ubuntu kernal supports a tv card i have?
[10:30] <bazhang> caps kadko
[10:30] <user1> bazhang ^
[10:30] <DistroJockey> solom: I try to avoid upgrades if I can :)
[10:30] <oxtail> anyone here a fan of beagled? by getting rid of it, i seem to have disabled my desktop background, and right-clicking on the desktop no longer gives me the menu...any ideas?
[10:31] <harsh1> bazhang: No I don't have any plans to connect multiple computers.
[10:31] <holek> can anyone help me with this monitor problem?
[10:31] <thoreauputic> !flash | ailean
[10:31] <ubotu> ailean: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:31] <Jordan_U> !caps | kadko
[10:31] <ubotu> kadko: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:31] <solom> by the way ... from your opinion ..why should i migrate from windows to Linux ?? coz i need to persuade my G.M sooner :) after learning the basics may ALLAH willing
[10:31] <bazhang> kadko you need to install ccsm; /msg ubotu ccsm for more info
[10:32] <tsukasa_> solom, linux is superior in pretty much every way except gaming
[10:32] <bazhang> solom: three reasons: more secure, no viruses, free
[10:32] <tsukasa_> solom, and even then we have wine
[10:32] <DistroJockey> solom: Free, open source, quick fixes and help
[10:32] <harsh1> bazhang: My ISP representative said "You will need to create a new network connection", how to do that on Ubuntu 7.10?
[10:32] <moDumass> bazhang you didnt mention "awesome" and "not crap like windows"
[10:33] <bazhang> moDumass: ;]
[10:33] <DistroJockey> solom: and the 2 others bazhang mentioned :)
[10:33] <tsukasa_> windows isnt crap, its just not very good
[10:33] <DistroJockey> hehe
[10:33] <tsukasa_> be fair
[10:33] <bazhang> harsh1: connect the cable to your box
[10:33] <solom> but what if i need support ... when i have a disaster .. for whom should i scream on  to help me ???
[10:34] <DistroJockey> us :)
[10:34] <harsh1> bazhang: ok, done.
[10:34] <solom> i am from EGYPT by the way
[10:34] <bazhang> solom: dont scream but come here; we never sleep ;]
[10:34] <cocox> hi there, do you know how could i check exactly human reading (MB, GB, etc..) file size from the shell? i tried ls -lh but dun know why is not accurate, also df -h but it neither...
[10:34] <solom> really .. OMG.. this is what i call teamwork soul
[10:35] <bazhang> harsh1: your provider gave you some info to connect: username, password, and is this static or dynamic ip
[10:35] <solom> okay this is a mutual trust between us ...
[10:35] <dthacker-work> cocox: you can't find the arguments for human readable, or you don't like what they're telling you?
[10:35] <moDumass> tsukasa, no your right, for years i loved my xp and 2000 machines, but that was before my eyes were opened, before i took the red pill
[10:35] <harsh1> bazhang: Yes they have given it, it is Dynamic IP.
[10:35] <tsukasa_> moDumass, yeah, i still have vista as my only os on my gaming box
[10:36] <TychoQuad> hi, I'm having trouble with gnome's automount. Every time I connect my external hard drive, it increments the drive name by a _. my /media folder has 3E, 3E_, 3E__, 3E___, ect
[10:36] <DistroJockey> solom: I'm sure you will find Ubuntu to be a great OS with a great community
[10:36] <tsukasa_> moDumass, but on my laptop on the other hand, thats dual booted, and always in linux when not on long trips
[10:36] <cocox> dthacker-work dont believe what it says
[10:36] <bazhang> harsh1: will this be via ppp0e?
[10:36] <dthacker-work> cocox: it does rounding.
[10:36] <cocox> dthacker-work because i see a size in the shell and a different one in the xwindows
[10:36] <moDumass> tsukasa im about $300 away from buildinga  new gaming box and im not sure if i want to go visat or not, the latest review for crysis said dx10 isnt worth the chenge, so im kinda confused here
[10:36] <holek> I've got a monitor (some CTX monitor, known in Linux as Generic) on Radeon 9550 that does supports the resolution 1280x1024@85, but I can't see this in "Change resolution" dialog (and just don't know which line in xorg.conf covers vertical sync). What can I do? Is there any program that forces driver to use certain resolution? I had similar problem in Windows, but there I had AtiTrayTools, in which I overrided monitor modes. How can I do that in
[10:36] <tsukasa_> i also have a server thats always in linux
[10:37] <bullgard4> kadko: Pleas do not use all capitals.
[10:37] <cocox> dthacker-work which command could you use to compare file sizes for example?
[10:37] <dthacker-work> ls -l
[10:37] <cocox> it doesnt gave human readible size
[10:37] <tsukasa_> moDumass, what gaming box you building? what price range?
[10:37] <moDumass> yeh i have windows on this machine somewhere but havnt been back into it for, about a year im guessing
[10:37] <cocox> ls -lh does but
[10:37] <dthacker-work> bytes are human readable
[10:37] <cocox> it is not accurate
[10:37] <harsh1> bazhang: I am sorry, I am not sure about that.
[10:37] <r11t> does anyone have experience with the easiest way to encrypt/decrypt a folder on the fly ?
[10:37] <moDumass> tsukasa im probably going for around $2000 Aus
[10:37] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[10:37] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[10:38] <dthacker-work> wheeeee!
[10:38] <moDumass> yeh
[10:38] <|Debian|> woooo
[10:38] <|Debian|> that was FUN
[10:38] <user1> how can i know what card= and what tuner= i have for my tv card ? i have Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01) card=0
[10:38] <moDumass> need more red pills
[10:38] <|Debian|> lulz
[10:38] <cocox> dthacker-work look
[10:38] <tsukasa_> moDumass, yeah, use vista, just defrag a lot and raid0 the installation
[10:38] <moDumass> and
[10:38] <moDumass> theyre back
[10:38] <mmm4m5m> Question: In bash script, how to add lines to the input stream? Example: if I have 'cat file.txt | head' usually I use temp variables like 'all_lines=$(cat file.txt)"$extra_lines"; echo "$all_lines" | head'.
[10:38] <cocox> dthacker-work, with ls -l -----> dr-xr-xr-x 1 root  root       2048 2004-09-02 10:03 image
[10:39] <dthacker-work> and....
[10:39] <cocox> dthacker-work but in the xwindows it says 509 MB
[10:39] <|Debian|> ewwww vista users
[10:39]  * |Debian| shudders
[10:39] <tsukasa_> |Debian|, aye
[10:39] <tsukasa_> i dont care for it
[10:39] <|Debian|> me either
[10:39] <tsukasa_> it doesnt bother me since i never see it
[10:39] <|Debian|> used it once.... wasn't impressed
[10:39] <tsukasa_> im always in a game
[10:39] <harsh1> bazhang: can you provide me the steps to resolve this issue in case if we get disconnected in the process?
[10:39] <dthacker-work> cocox: you do realize that's a directory, right?
[10:39] <|Debian|> it's a peice of s**t
[10:39] <moDumass> um, trying to mount an hdd in a nas to my desktop, google isnt being helpful, but im possibly looking int he wrong place, any ideas global conciousness?
[10:40] <|Debian|> worst OS ever
[10:40] <tsukasa_> not completely, it doesnt bluescreen often
[10:40] <thoreauputic> !ot
[10:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:40] <|Debian|> rofl. often
[10:40] <|Debian|> mind you ... i ran XP very well ... no BSOD
[10:40] <tsukasa_> well lets put it this way
[10:40] <|Debian|> best os they've done
[10:40] <tsukasa_> it never bluescreens betweens reboots
[10:40] <thoreauputic> Windows discussions -->> #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:40] <tsukasa_> the forced ones form windows updates
[10:40] <moDumass> yeh very rarely had BSOD in XP
[10:40] <moDumass> or 2000
[10:41] <|Debian|> haha. it' a classic the old .. bsod
[10:41] <cocox> dthacker-work uhh and how could i get from the shell the size of the dir and all the files inside?
[10:41] <user1> how can i know what card= and what tuner= i have for my tv card ? i have Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01) card=0
[10:41] <|Debian|> i never really used 2000 .... it sucked major ass though
[10:41] <thoreauputic> guys, last warning - Windows is off-topic
[10:41] <tsukasa_> 2000 had a bug where it would bluescreen after 35 days of usage straight
[10:41] <|Debian|> 2003 is very good also
[10:41] <|Debian|> pretty much xp
[10:41] <bazhang> harsh1 you need to open up network manager; as I am not on gnome it might be different for you--you likely will want to connect via ppp0e--iirc you can enter the username and password there; I generally do it through a router (accessing via firefox) so perhaps the fine folks here can follow up on what we have started
[10:41] <|Debian|> apart from the obvious it's a server version lol
[10:41] <moDumass> user1, i dont know mate, sorry, have you googled that tv card to  figure it out
[10:41] <|Debian|> thoreauputic: sorry just seen it
[10:42] <thoreauputic> |Debian|: tsukasa_ windows >> ##windows
[10:42] <tsukasa_> thoreauputic, i heard you
[10:42] <|Debian|> no thanks :D
[10:42] <bazhang> please take the windows talk elsewhere
[10:42] <|Debian|> linux <3
[10:42] <dthacker-work> cocox: du -h
[10:42] <TychoQuad> hi, I'm having trouble with gnome's automount. my external hard drive, it increments the drive name by a _. my /media folder has 3E, 3E_, 3E__, 3E___, ect
[10:42] <tsukasa_> wow
 sorry
[10:42] <user1> k
[10:43] <tsukasa_> TychoQuad, thats like my irc client >_>
[10:43] <cocox> dthacker-work thank you very much
[10:43] <harsh1> bazhang: thanks for the help.
[10:44] <solom> 	<DistroJockey>you channel and the people here  are the greater with there kind and support
[10:44] <solom> peace upon you all c ya after the installation complete thanks
[10:44] <moDumass> hmm, how do i mount a second cifs file system, 2 hdds in the same nas, can only see 1 of them
[10:44] <DistroJockey> solom: Glad to be of help when I can, as others have helped me :)
[10:45] <tsukasa_> why does picasa have a linux version but not gtalk
[10:45] <tsukasa_> for that matter why does gtalk not support aim but gmail does
[10:45] <tsukasa_> google is so confusing
[10:45] <azuki> pidgeon does them all
[10:46] <tsukasa_> yeah but not voice
[10:46] <azuki> yep.. and no webcam :/
[10:46] <ucrit> does anyone here has try to use speed up modem su-8200u on ubuntu?
[10:46] <tsukasa_> skype is okay but i have a beef with them over one or two minor things
[10:46] <Zambezi> Anyone having problem with rtorrent 0.8? I can't find my hashed files.
[10:46] <Zambezi> It
[10:47] <wannabee> hi I'm a new user of Ubuntu Gutsy
[10:47] <ura> hello what is a MDF file?
[10:47] <azuki> I never got skypes webcam working in a normal textchat.. I even doubt now if it's possible
[10:47] <wannabee> a beginner I think
[10:48] <wannabee> so is there any channel for a beginner like me?
[10:48] <azuki> you're there!
[10:48] <azuki> :)
[10:48] <DistroJockey> ura: Google has many answers to that question
[10:49] <chtri> DistroJockey: google is confusing, ppl say
[10:50] <azuki> mainly because google wants to be what pidgeon is... but then big.. :)
[10:50] <DistroJockey> chtri: I guess it can be
[10:50] <DistroJockey> chtri: isn't for me though
[10:50] <steph33560> what can I verify with my drivers about hashing videos when previewing in avidemux ?
[10:50] <|Debian|> ... having a windows war in the windows channel ... telling them how much it sucks rofl.
[10:51] <jrgp_> what channel?
[10:51] <icesword> lol
[10:52] <|Debian|> hashashwindows
[10:52] <|Debian|> sorry i have no hash button
[10:52] <|Debian|> lol
[10:52] <user1> how can i know what card= and what tuner= i have for my tv card ? i have Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01) card=0
[10:53] <lesshaste> gnucash seems to be completely broken in gutsy. For example, when importing the same .qif file it reports different duplicates each time! Also, if you are lucky it will fail to refresh the window and so will be completely black until you click on parts of it etc.
[10:53] <Bogaurd_> is there anyway to make sure device names for hard drives etc in /dev/ do not change? I'd like the traditional behaviour, where /dev/hdc is the sec master, even if there is nothing connected to the primary channel, as an example... indead all my drives appear as /dev/sdX, and if add a new drive, there's no telling where it will end up, and what it will force the others to be renamed to
[10:54] <dthacker-work> lesshaste: have you filed a bug?
[10:54] <DistroJockey> user1:  Maybe this will help:   http://xawdecode.sourceforge.net/aideUS/htmlpage/TVCardall.htm
[10:54] <lesshaste> dthacker-work: I'm not sure where to start as it appears totally broken.  It also says it is making a .gnucash file then says it can't find it etc.
[10:54] <stefg> !uuid | Bogaurd_
[10:54] <ubotu> Bogaurd_: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:55] <Synx_hm> Is there a way to use dd to raw copy the contents of my flash drive, without the empty space?
[10:55] <XTeLiS_> OOOOPS
[10:56] <helix> HI guys, Where can i look for applications....
[10:56] <stefg> !software | helix
[10:56] <ubotu> helix: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[10:57] <XTeLiS_> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/
[10:57] <XTeLiS_> go there please everyone with questions....
[10:57] <user1> DistroJockey thx
[10:57] <lesshaste> is there a gnucash alternative?
[10:57] <XTeLiS_> its a 1 stop shop
[10:57] <XTeLiS_> yes
[10:57] <XTeLiS_> do you need ?
[10:58] <helix> ubotu, i am looking for #d rendering software
[10:58] <azuki> helix: he's a bot
[10:59] <helix> azuki, i jus got the msg from him...
[10:59] <azuki> no shit!
[10:59] <DistroJockey> user1: np, it help?
[10:59] <azuki> :D
[10:59] <azuki> that works?
[10:59] <azuki> obotu, I am looking for beautiful women
[10:59] <azuki> :(
[11:00] <DistroJockey> user1:  as I have another link if you need it:   http://sudan.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=740525
[11:02] <JasonWard> hello. why is it that I can run GTK programs but when I #include <gtk/gtk.h>  it can't find gtk.h ?
[11:04] <winkman> hi... just a quick question... what's the default screen capture key in Ubuntu?
[11:04] <hischild_> winkman, easy, press print screen
[11:05] <tsukasa_> i thought it was control printscreen
[11:05] <Nyad> hello. why is it that I can run GTK programs but when I #include <gtk/gtk.h>  it can't find gtk.h ?
[11:05] <DistroJockey> alt
[11:05] <lartza_> Does anything stop me not to removing both gnome panels? If I do remove them is there way to get them back?
[11:05] <winkman> hmmph. Thanks... i was trying it, but my keyboard hijacks the advanced keys... i've fixed it. :)
[11:05] <DistroJockey> opps, alt+printscreen for just the window
[11:05] <hischild_> tsukasa_, DistroJockey, he's asking for screen capture, not window capture.
[11:05] <tsukasa_> oh
[11:06] <DistroJockey> hischild_: yes, I was sorta trying to reply to tsukasa_ :)
[11:06] <hischild_> DistroJockey, was meant as a reply =)
[11:06] <DistroJockey> mishit the enter key :)
[11:06] <Nyad> hello. why is it that I can run GTK programs but when I #include <gtk/gtk.h>  it can't find gtk.h ?
[11:06] <hischild_> np
[11:08] <DistroJockey> Nyad: only thing I can think of is that it's not in the PATH
[11:08] <lartza_> Does anything stop me not to removing both gnome panels? If I do remove them is there way to get them back?
[11:09] <Nyad> what about a gtk dev package? I haven't done that but I dunno what the package name is
[11:09] <hischild_> !find gtk-dev
[11:09] <ubotu> Found: libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-dev, libtracker-gtk-dev, gnunet-gtk-dev, libempathy-gtk-dev, libexif-gtk-dev (and 9 others)
[11:09] <DistroJockey> Nyad: could be, out of my area sorry.
[11:09] <DistroJockey> lartza_: nice question :)
[11:09] <Nyad> ok tnx
[11:09] <lartza_> How? :)
[11:10] <lartza_> Just basic...
[11:10] <DistroJockey> lartza_: I only ever remove 1
[11:10] <lartza_> Well is tehre anything stopping me?
[11:10] <lartza_> wipe out both!
[11:10] <T1m0thy> lartza_, try it.
[11:10] <lartza_> tand can i get them back if i start to regret?
[11:10] <T1m0thy> lol
[11:10] <DistroJockey> lartza_: only the fact that you may not be able to get it back if you need it
[11:10] <lartza_> Must be way to get back
[11:11] <lartza_> ...reinstall!
[11:11] <T1m0thy> You could press alt + f2 and type in gnome-panel, couldn't you/
[11:11] <lartza_> well is there?
[11:11] <lartza_> idk
[11:12] <DistroJockey> I just deleted bottom panel, won't let me delete top
[11:12] <lartza_> :(
[11:12] <lartza_> i have already deleted the bottom
[11:12] <T1m0thy> Why do you want them gone?
[11:12] <hischild_> DistroJockey, i can delete the top but idk about bottom
[11:12] <lartza_> but i want to remove top too!
[11:12] <lartza_> i dont need the panels
[11:12] <T1m0thy> Dock?
[11:12] <lartza_> ?
[11:13] <T1m0thy> Well.. you could always use something other than Gnome.
[11:13] <lartza_> I have awn and everything necessary in it... well, exept i havent got system tray to work
[11:13] <lartza_> or volume control, but i didnt have all dependencies i think
[11:13] <hischild_> lartza_, have you tried fluxbox?
[11:13] <DistroJockey> hischild_: I usually delete the bottom ant add the button window switcher to the top panel and then move the top panel to the bottom :)
[11:14] <hischild_> DistroJockey, you're scaring me, that makes it look like windows
[11:14] <DistroJockey> hischild_: well, I'm used to Windows as I have to support it everyday :(
[11:14] <hischild_> DistroJockey, seems like we're in the same line ...
[11:15] <DistroJockey> hischild_: *nods* :)
[11:15] <lartza_> wont let me delete the top panel! >:(
[11:15] <tsukasa_> hey my alsa audio died... i was messing with ekiga and it wont come back now even after reboot
[11:15] <XTeLiS_> lartza_: YES YOu can remove both
[11:15] <hischild_> lartza_, have you tried fluxbox yet?
[11:15] <tsukasa_> the audio is turned up thats not the problem
[11:15] <XTeLiS_> backup your settings
[11:15] <lartza_> hischild: why would i try?
[11:15] <Moldador> hi, where the desktop themes are saved?
[11:15] <XTeLiS_> move those settings to like a gspace area or cd/dvd
[11:16] <XTeLiS_> then rem0ve them...
[11:16] <lartza_> XTeLiS: Wont let me remove
[11:16] <XTeLiS_> if you want back later do so
[11:16] <hischild_> lartza_, it doesn't have anything on it by default, only a small bar at the bottom
[11:16] <lartza_> remove panel is greyed
[11:16] <XTeLiS_> update to the newest gnome or kde
[11:17] <XTeLiS_> its worth it
[11:17] <XTeLiS_> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/
[11:17] <DistroJockey> tsukasa_: maybe ekiga muted something, maybe check by running the following from a terminal:  alsamixer
[11:18] <user1> how can i shut down computer with a timer. say shutdown after 2 hours?
[11:18] <tsukasa_> DistroJockey, already did that, everythings maxed
[11:18] <user1> DistroJockey no luck btw.
[11:18] <tsukasa_> DistroJockey, i also restarted alsa-utils
[11:18] <DistroJockey> :(
[11:18]  * DistroJockey takes a big swig of beer
[11:18] <ePax> user1: You might need to use crontab with poweroff command.
[11:18] <lartza_> how could i contor the size of panel so it would not bewhole screen length?
[11:18] <XTeLiS_> user there is a addon program if you open add/remove programs
[11:19] <XTeLiS_> you can find it
[11:19] <n2diy> userl the "at" command
[11:19] <user1> ePax whats the command?
[11:19] <XTeLiS_> with gnome2 and widgets
[11:19] <XTeLiS_> or kde
[11:19] <XTeLiS_> 4
[11:19] <ePax> lartza_: Left klick on panel then go to properities
[11:19] <XTeLiS_> ;]
[11:20] <lartza_> ePax: Oh I needed to uncheck expand
[11:20] <DistroJockey> user1: it's not a Compro card is i?
[11:20] <DistroJockey> it^
[11:20] <ePax> user1: For shutting down comp its "poweroff" without " but about crontab you might need to read litle
[11:20] <ePax> !crontab | user1
[11:20] <ubotu> user1: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[11:20] <lartza_> why does the top panel under look "stupid"
[11:21] <lartza_> if i put window in it and take it off the window "burns" to that spot
[11:21] <ePax> lartza_: Does it? Change it. Thats why God gave you Ubuntu. :D Visit www.gnome-look.org
[11:21] <ePax> :D
[11:21] <lartza_> and when i move another window in it and then out from it it show that window in it
[11:21] <Freeze> Hello everyone
[11:22] <lartza_> ePax: Didn't understand
[11:22] <Freeze> I installed Ubuntu today, and I'm wondering, how can I change my taskbar's font colour?
[11:22] <user1> DistroJockey no.. alpha phillips
[11:22] <ePax> lartza_: About your panel
[11:22] <lartza_> ePax: I have fixed it, but space under the panel show everything what has been on it
[11:23] <Freeze> Anyone? :)
[11:23] <DistroJockey> user1: I've got a Compro T750 that doesn't work with any linux :(  Hope you have better luck.
[11:23] <bouma> when i select xp on my boot loader i get an error msg saying to copy a file
[11:23] <bouma> wtf
[11:24] <chtri> copy it!
[11:24] <user1> DistroJockey hmm.. what distro you have? may be the latest kernel will help?
[11:24] <skkk> Hallo! Wie kann im bei meinem Ubuntu Gutsy die 5%-root-Reservierung von /home ändern?
[11:24] <lartza_> Well now it has a bigger prob
[11:24] <lartza_> that was fixed
[11:24] <chtri> !de | skkk
[11:24] <ubotu> skkk: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:24] <T1m0thy> !de | skkk
[11:24] <lartza_> but the old prob is still there
[11:25] <DistroJockey> user1: well, 2.6.24-14  didn't help
[11:25] <lartza_> ill send screenshot
[11:25] <user1> DistroJockey options saa7134 card=81 tuner=54   in sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/option is making tv time to scan the chans atleast
[11:25] <DistroJockey> user1: dvb-t ?
[11:25] <karaiza> salut cherche des ubunturos reunion^^
[11:25] <user1> DistroJockey didnt installed any thing yet
[11:25] <user1> DistroJockey just tvtime and the options in that file
[11:26] <T1m0thy> !fr | karaiza
[11:26] <user1> DistroJockey but its not gving and channels.
[11:26] <ubotu> karaiza: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:26] <karaiza> ok merci
[11:26] <DistroJockey> user1: never had any luck with mine, been trying for a year :(
[11:26] <user1> DistroJockey ok. see ya.. soon got to go kill some people
[11:27] <DistroJockey> user1: all the best
[11:27] <user1> DistroJockey tried ubuntu forums.
[11:27] <Nyad> !de | Nyad
[11:27] <user1> DistroJockey tried ubuntu forums.?
[11:27] <lartza_> that is my prob on the top of the pic: http://finplaza.arkku.net/screen.png
[11:27] <user1> DistroJockey thx
[11:27] <DistroJockey> user1: tried deeper :)
[11:27] <T1m0thy> de rien, karaiza
[11:27] <lartza_> every window i slide into it
[11:27] <user1> DistroJockey :) if you take advantage of linux. it has some side effects too
[11:27] <user1> DistroJockey despite that. we like it
[11:28] <user1> DistroJockey see ya :)
[11:28] <DistroJockey> user1: indeed, see ya
[11:28] <lartza_> that is my prob on the top of the pic: http://finplaza.arkku.net/screen.png every window i slide into it
[11:29] <DistroJockey> lartza_: wow, funky
[11:29] <lartza_> the prob or my desk?
[11:29] <lartza_> :P
[11:29] <DistroJockey> the prob :)
[11:29] <lartza_> :(
[11:29] <bouma> hi
[11:29] <lartza_> :P
[11:30] <bouma> well i rebooted and ive got the error msg from the boot loader
[11:30] <bouma> can someone helpme
[11:30] <bouma> plz
[11:30] <DistroJockey> lartza_: what does it do with awn turned off?
[11:30] <n2diy> !ask | bouma
[11:30] <ubotu> bouma: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[11:30] <lartza_> ...
[11:30] <lartza_> i need to do some setting
[11:31] <lartza_> in case if awn crashes, i cant do almost anything with my comp
[11:31] <bouma> when i choose xp, grub says,
[11:31] <bouma> win could not start because the following file is missing
[11:31] <bouma> <qwindows root>\system32\hal.dll or corrupt
[11:31] <bouma> please reinstall a copy of the above file
[11:31] <FloodBot2> bouma: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:31] <DistroJockey> lartza_: it's probably a compiz issue (just a hunch)
[11:32] <ompaul> bouma, that is a windows issue - not for here ##windows might be better for that
[11:32] <n2diy> !boot | bouma
[11:32] <bouma> windows had no issue before i stuck the ubuntu cd in
[11:32] <ubotu> bouma: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:33] <hylinux> hi, anybody can help me one things: when I install the ubuntu to my dell computer, ( amd 64 ), it look like failed,  just stop the "configuring hardware.
[11:33] <lartza_> DistroJockey: No difference when awn off
[11:33] <tarelerulz> How do you get to the Ubuntu 8.04 room?
[11:33] <ompaul> !hardy | tarelerulz
[11:33] <ubotu> tarelerulz: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[11:33] <bouma> ompaul: i installed 7.10 on a new partition, 2nd partion after xp which was on the first partition
[11:33] <n2diy> hylinux: play with your boot options, nodma, no pci etc...
[11:34] <DistroJockey> lartza_: disable Desktop Effects?
[11:34] <lartza_> stupid ubntu i cant keep my stupid panel how long i want or i cant put the stupid panel where i want...
[11:34] <dot_> I am wondering if iphone is now working well with linux ubuntu gutsy gibbon... Like is ubuntu finding iphone and is it possible to put songs on it
[11:34] <dot_> and will it's battery charge with ubuntu
[11:34] <lartza_> DistroJockey: I think I can't
[11:34] <lartza_> DistroJockey: I think I can't even lower
[11:34] <lartza_> Or awn wont work properly
[11:34] <lartza_> but ill try
[11:34] <bouma> ompaul: so should i use the microsoft cd to 'repair' the ms boot loader
[11:34] <hylinux> n2diy: thanks
[11:35] <tarelerulz> I am not dumb ,but when I do /join ﻿#ubuntu+1 I don't seem anything happen . What is up
[11:35] <dot_> I am wondering if iphone is now working well with linux ubuntu gutsy gibbon... Like is ubuntu finding iphone and is it possible to put songs on it
[11:35] <hylinux> now, it look like ok, when I install it b y livecd.
[11:35] <dot_> and will it's battery charge with ubuntu
[11:35] <n2diy> hylinux: GL
[11:35] <hischild> !repeat | dot_
[11:35] <ubotu> dot_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:35] <ompaul> bouma, I don't know windows but that seems like a reasonable option, then I would do this
[11:35] <ompaul> !grub | bouma
[11:35] <ubotu> bouma: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:35] <hylinux> n2diy: GL? what's that mean.  sorry. I am Chinese, limited on English
[11:35] <ompaul> bouma, cos sure as anything it is going to break grub - yoiu know how much it like to be interoperable ;-)
[11:36] <n2diy> hylinux: GL means good luck!
[11:36] <hylinux> n2diy: thanks
[11:36] <tarelerulz> do you know of anything that can send files to gtalk users ?
[11:36] <lartza_> I'm starting to unlike ubuntu
[11:36] <n2diy> hylinux: GL :)
[11:36] <DistroJockey> lartza_: System - Preferences - Appearance - Visual Effects ?
[11:36] <DistroJockey> lartza_: :(
[11:37] <lartza_> DistroJockey: I can't get awn clock/calendar work, i think because there is no clock in panel...
[11:37] <ompaul> lartza_, you keep customizing it beyond your ability to maintain it - I figure if you did a default install and stopped playing with bling until you got some basics well under your belt you would profit more by it
[11:37] <lartza_> i have used ubuntu for a year now...
[11:37] <empanada> ¡Hooolaaaaaaaaaa! soy nueva en esto..¿como funciona
[11:37] <SNuxoll> !es | empanada
[11:37] <ubotu> empanada: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:38] <DistroJockey> lartza_: ohh, I've never used awn for long enough I guess
[11:38] <tarelerulz> getting sound for my laptop out of the box was great.  my hat is off to the makers of Ubuntu 8.04 .
[11:38] <ompaul> tarelerulz, #ubuntu+`
[11:38] <ompaul> tarelerulz, #ubuntu+1
[11:38] <SNuxoll> tarelerulz: yeah, hardy is shaping up nicely, but ^
[11:38] <n2diy> 8.04?
[11:38] <empanada> en que color esta
[11:38] <empanada>  en gris
[11:39] <DistroJockey> ompaul: that is a nice point
[11:39] <dot_> so is iphone charging on linux ubuntu gutsy... And is it possible to put songs on it with gutsy
[11:39] <n2diy> whoops, brain cramp, it is 8.04 now.
[11:39] <stefg> I used awn on gutsy.... when i installed hardy i finally found it not worth the extra effort to install it
[11:39] <empanada> y ahora
[11:39] <SNuxoll> n2diy: 8.04 is in beta now, many people are testing it now, but it's still not recommended for most users
[11:39] <empanada>  tambien
[11:39] <SNuxoll> !es | empanada
[11:39] <ubotu> empanada: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[11:39] <phar0z> !es | empanada
[11:39] <n2diy> SNuxoll: roger that.
[11:39] <empanada> dddddd
[11:39] <SNuxoll> n2diy: ;)
[11:40] <dot_> anyone here knows about the iphone and linux ubuntu compatibaly?
[11:40] <ICQnumber_> !livecd
[11:40] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[11:40] <srodden> Greetings! I've created a simple script (3 lines, exports a var then does a sudo modprobe and a sudo to run KVM). I've created a launcher but it doesn't work. If I double click in Nautilus and choose Run in Terminal when it prompts, it works but there's an ugly term in the bg. Any ideas how to make this smooth?
[11:40] <SNuxoll> dot_: what do you mean by compatibility?
[11:40] <dot_> SNuxoll: yea
[11:40] <SNuxoll> dot_: like being able to sync music?
[11:40] <lartza_> Thx for everyone who helped, cya
[11:40] <ICQnumber_> !factory
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about factory - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <tarelerulz> I did just that ompaul and it did not work. Nor do  /msg NickServ  IDENTIFY  PASSWORD
[11:41] <dot_> SNuxoll: yea and getting it charging through USB
[11:41] <dot_> just like a mac computaa
[11:41] <ompaul> tarelerulz,      /join #ubuntu+1
[11:41] <SNuxoll> dot_: USB power is nothing special, I can get my iPod to charge off my Wii
[11:41] <hylinux> hi, I had installed success the ubuntu 8.04 to my dell optiplex 740, but I found I can't make the network work success, the card is:Broadom bcm5754, how can I driver it?and make it work success?
[11:41] <tarelerulz> ﻿/join #ubuntu+1
[11:41] <DistroJockey> srodden: can you pastebin the script for us?
[11:41] <ompaul> tarelerulz, no space before it?
[11:41] <SNuxoll> dot_: I'm not sure about Gutsy, but I believe that libgpod has support for the iPhone
[11:41] <dot_> SNuxoll: and is it possible to put music on it with ubuntu?
[11:41] <tarelerulz> ﻿/join #ubuntu+1
[11:41] <srodden> How do I pastebin, please?
[11:42] <SNuxoll> dot_: so more than likely, I'd try it from a livecd
[11:42] <ompaul> tarelerulz, no -- you got a space in there
[11:42] <hylinux> please.
[11:42] <tarelerulz> ﻿/join#ubuntu+1
[11:42] <thoreauputic> !broadcom
[11:42] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[11:42] <dot_> SNuxoll: why livecd?
[11:42] <n2diy> hylinux: what is your native language?
[11:42] <unop> dot_, there are a couple of ways you can sync with the iphone -- ssh and gtkpod -- !google will tell you more
[11:42] <hylinux> Chinese
[11:42] <hylinux> thoreauputic: thanks
[11:42] <user1> how can i know the exact watts that my pc and my moniter takes? (need to calculate watts to buy a new ups) ?
[11:42] <SNuxoll> unop: !google is akin to jfgi, please don't
[11:42] <thoreauputic> hylinux: bcm5754 might be something else though...
[11:43] <SNuxoll> bcm5754 != bcm43xx
[11:43] <thoreauputic> hylinux: broadcom are notorious for not supporting Linux :(
[11:43] <n2diy> !ch | hylinux
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <spmccann> user1 should be on the maufactuers website
[11:43] <ompaul> !cn | hylinux
[11:43] <ubotu> hylinux: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[11:43] <SNuxoll> dot_: I'd say plug your iPhone in and see if it works
[11:43] <thoreauputic> hylinux: another possibility might be ndiswrapper
[11:43] <hylinux> thoreauputic: hrmm,  may be can use ndiswarpper.
[11:43] <hylinux> yea.
[11:43] <hylinux> yeah.
[11:43] <SNuxoll> dot_: worst case scenario is it doesn't
[11:43] <spmccann> user1 there is usually a sticker on the back of the montior
[11:43] <dot_> ok thanks
[11:43] <user1> spmccann hm.. spmccann can you help giving the link
[11:44] <user1> spmccann hmm. what about cpu
[11:44] <neeto> I am running 32-bit 7.10 right now, is there any way that I can upgrade my installation to a 64-bit 8.04 installation whilst still keeping all my data intact?
[11:44] <srodden> My script is here http://rodden.net/ubuntu/launchxp.txt
[11:44] <SNuxoll> neeto: I wouldn't suggest upgrading to hardy yet
[11:44] <unop> SNuxoll, I didn't mean to offend anyone
[11:44] <SNuxoll> unop: I know, I'm just making you aware :)
[11:44] <unop> SNuxoll, or be sarcastic, i was suggesting better ways to get information
[11:45] <SNuxoll> neeto: and no, you can't just up and upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit
[11:45] <neeto> SNuxoll: alright, well, is there a way that I can upgrade my kernel to 64-bit from 32-bit without major issues?
[11:45] <SNuxoll> neeto: you'll need to reinstall
[11:45] <unop> SNuxoll, thansk but i've been in here long enough to know :)
[11:45] <n2diy> neeto: do you have an other box to use as a backup?
[11:45] <ghis> What desktop do you guys recommend? I don't like standard gnome. Are you running gnome + beryl or something?
[11:45] <neeto> n2diy: Not with enough space to hold all my files...
[11:45] <SNuxoll> ghis: beryl is depreceated
[11:45] <spmccann> user1 it depends on how long you need to run on battery
[11:45] <SNuxoll> ghis: personally I use gnome w/compiz-fusion
[11:46] <ghis> SNuxoll okay.. i will have a look at it
[11:46] <srodden> Not big on eye candy myself :) Just plain gnome atm.
[11:46] <ghis> Standard gnome is so ugly! :)
[11:47] <SNuxoll> srodden: eh, I don't use it for the eye candy, there are some nice compiz plugins that make work more productive to me
[11:47] <n2diy> neeto: Then use your current box as the backup, and do your install on the other box?
[11:47] <the_herby> SNuxoll: is it possible to remove the 32 packages via apt and reinstall 64 bit?
[11:47] <user1> spmccann well the ups should have fixed watss. the moniter is 1.2 a  . just tell me how to know the watts of cpu and moniter
[11:47] <SNuxoll> srodden: it looking pretty is just a bonus
[11:47] <unop> the_herby, no
[11:47] <DistroJockey> ghis: gnome-look.org
[11:47] <SNuxoll> the_herby: not that I am aware of, you'd need to remove everything down to binutils
[11:47] <the_herby> ok, i see
[11:47] <neeto> n2diy: I don't really see what that accomplishes...
[11:47] <ghis> Iam thinking about migrating from vista to ubuntu..
[11:48] <n2diy> neeto: you get the new install, and you don't loose any data.
[11:48] <the_herby> ghis: good thought
[11:48] <rhandyk> hi
[11:48] <srodden> Snux, fair enough :) I actually found when I'd flip up desk 1 to 2 to 3 it was fine but clicking back on 1 took about 12 secs before anything would happen. Decided it was more trouble than ti's worth :) But then I'm only just a newbie. Maybe in time I'll come to appreciate it.
[11:48] <SNuxoll> hello rhandyk, what can we help you with?
[11:48] <rhandyk> my menu bar has gone to the left of the screen, how do i reposition it to the top
[11:48] <rhandyk> ?
[11:48] <SNuxoll> rhandyk: simply drag it to the top
[11:49] <spmccann> user 1 you need to know the total power consumption, also how long you need to run on batteries
[11:49] <XTeLiS_> ghis: yes goood idea
[11:49] <SNuxoll> srodden: eh, I'm more apprecative of the scale and shelf plugins
[11:49] <neeto> n2diy: I think I am either misunderstanding your point or you are misunderstanding my situation. I clicked too fast on the 32-bit distro and I realized that my processor suppoerts 64 bit archetecture. I want to keep all my files and still have a 64bit install on this computer...
[11:49] <javaJake> Anyone have any ideas what "bad CDC descriptors" means? I get this message in syslog when I try to connect a device.
[11:49] <srodden> Anything obviously wrong with this script? http://rodden.net/ubuntu/launchxp.txt I've added it to a launcher, set perms to 766, click it and... nothing happens :)
[11:49] <neeto> n2diy: I don't want to have a 64-bit install just to have one... I want to actually use it as my main OS as well.
[11:49] <the_herby> neeto: then copy your home directory and reinstall
[11:50] <spmccann> user1 differeent ups models are capable of varying power output on bsattery
[11:50] <srodden> 755 I mean
[11:50] <neeto> the_herby: I gotta get some major backups then.... I have 2TB of data on this box... such a pain to have to back it up
[11:51] <DistroJockey> srodden: #!/bin/bash   maybe it should be   #!/bin/sh   ?
[11:51] <n2diy> neeto: Fine Buisness. What I'm trying to say is don't play with mission crtical data, on your mission critical box. Set up a test box to play with.
[11:51] <srodden> that's how it was at first, the bash was an attempt at making it work
[11:51]  * DistroJockey looks around for a shell script
[11:51] <spmccann> use1 http://www.csgnetwork.com/upssizecalc.html
[11:52] <srodden> Interestingly, I've seen plenty of refereces to running in a terminal but I can't find that option on the 7.10 launcher. Has that option been removed in this release of gnome?
[11:52] <neeto> n2diy: I see... well, I'm not even really sure of the advantages switching to 64-bit poses, besides allowing me to use my full 4GB of ram besides just 3.6GB...
[11:52] <neeto> n2diy: which I don't really need anyway... so...
[11:52] <the_herby> neeto: thats quite some data to backup.. what is the benefit of 64 bit for you? you might also loose a 32 bit app that you depend on right now.
[11:53] <neeto> the_herby: I doubt that, I don't do anything too serious with my computer, I mainly just screw around with it and program on it...
[11:53] <DistroJockey> srodden: maybe you need  gksudo  ?
[11:53] <DistroJockey> guessing here
[11:53] <srodden> I don't know that one. *hits google*
[11:54] <neeto> the_herby/n2diy/anyone: what would the advantages of switching to 64 bit be? Does the archetecture actually run faster?
[11:54] <n2diy> neeto: Roger that. If you play on the edge, your likely to get burned, so do it on your test box. Data lose is a PITA
[11:55] <neeto> n2diy: I understand... I'm not doing anything till I back up my data. At this point I am just trying to figure out if I actually need to switch
[11:55] <spmccann> user1 try this site http://www.aeceuro.co.uk/PowerCalculator/default.asp
[11:55] <chtri> once you got 4 gb of ram, 32-bit not for you anymore :D too bad i got 4 gb
[11:55] <neeto> n2diy: if for nothing else, I am doing this for nerd points, which I already have an abundance of.
[11:56] <DistroJockey> chtri: I'd stick with 32bit even with 4GB of RAM
[11:56] <maximiliano> hi
[11:56] <maximiliano> what's up?
[11:56] <neeto> Yeah I have 4GB of RAM, and it only cuts me down to 3.4GB... not that I ever use more than like 256MB
[11:57] <n2diy> neeto: Nerd Points!?! What are they worth? Maybe I can retire on mine? :)
[11:57] <DistroJockey> neeto: :)
[11:57] <maximiliano> Can ubuntu use 4GB of RAM?
[11:57] <axz> Hi there ppl, where is best place to find good icons for ubuntu desktop
[11:57] <ompaul> neeto, 32bit o/s will not see 4GB
[11:57] <SNuxoll> ompaul: uhm, yes it will
[11:57] <SNuxoll> the 32-bit memory limit is 4GB
[11:57] <XTeLiS_> yes
[11:57] <neeto> SNuxoll: It actually cuts me off at 3.4GB instead of the 4 I have installed
[11:57] <maximiliano> mmm... how can I do that?
[11:57] <ompaul> SNuxoll, I need to add a word to there
[11:58] <ompaul> neeto, 32bit o/s will not see over 4GB
[11:58] <maximiliano> ubuntu 64bit exist?
[11:58] <SNuxoll> ompaul: there we go :)
[11:58] <neeto> But again, it makes no difference
[11:58] <XTeLiS_> axz: deviantart.com
[11:58] <ompaul> !64bit | maximiliano
[11:58] <ubotu> maximiliano: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[11:58] <SNuxoll> neeto: that's odd, you may have some bad ram
[11:58] <neeto> I don't need that much ram in the first place
[11:58] <neeto> I just have it to have it
[11:58] <mask> i need to know that there is a file in ubuntu that contains the linux shell commands history, can anyone tell me that where can it be found
[11:58] <SNuxoll> neeto: you might want to run memtest86 on that
[11:58] <maximiliano> but I have an Intel CPU...
[11:58] <maximiliano> not AMD64!
[11:58] <maximiliano> intel centrino 2core
[11:58] <SNuxoll> maximiliano: that's what EMT64 is
[11:58] <neeto> SNuxoll: are there any more advantages to using 64-bit archetecture?
[11:58] <SNuxoll> maximiliano: EMT64 == intel's AMD64
[11:59] <mask> i need to know that there is a file in ubuntu that contains the linux shell commands history, can anyone tell me that where can it be found
[11:59] <maximiliano> wow
[11:59] <SNuxoll> neeto: uhm, 8GB of memory, 64-bit math, that's it
[11:59] <maximiliano> understan
[11:59] <maximiliano> understand
[11:59] <SNuxoll> !repeat | mask
[11:59] <ubotu> mask: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:59] <neeto> SNuxoll: righto, thanks for saving me a whole lot of trouble with backup this much crap.
[11:59] <maximiliano> this is my fault and my ignorance
[11:59] <maximiliano> It's just a week that I passed from Winsucks to Ubuntu 7.10
[12:00] <n2diy> mask, .bashrc?
[12:00] <srodden> hmm, the script is working... just not through the launcher. Pesky thing.
[12:00] <mask> i dont know
[12:00] <axz> XTeLiS_, does the icons need to be svg extantion
[12:00] <SNuxoll> maximiliano: 'tis OK, at least you are having a easier time transitoning than I did, but I started using linux way back in 2000
[12:00] <mask> where can i found .bashrc ?
[12:00] <SNuxoll> maximiliano: in your ~
[12:00] <SNuxoll> err mask ^
[12:00] <maximiliano> I don't have much experience, you see...
[12:00] <SNuxoll> my tab complete is acting silly today
[12:01] <XTeLiS_> no idea
[12:01] <SNuxoll> maximiliano: only one way you can learn :)
[12:01] <n2diy> locate ./bashrc?
[12:01] <maximiliano> trying trying tryng?
[12:01] <maximiliano> that's THE way, right?
[12:01] <srodden> oh well, time to go play some games and think about this later. Thanks for the help, folks.
[12:01] <SNuxoll> maximiliano: and breaking your system a few times :P that's how I learned at least
[12:01] <maximiliano> ahaha ;-)
[12:01] <DistroJockey> be well srodden
[12:02] <javaJake> maximiliano: for the most part. you don't want to just DO things. :P
[12:02] <maximiliano> Indeed, my system breaks at least 10 times in 7six days...
[12:02] <javaJake> maximiliano: that happens if you follow a bad HOWTO. IMO the HOWTO section of Ubuntuforums needs to get cleaned up. :/
[12:03] <SNuxoll> maximiliano: sometimes I get bored to the point that I purposefully break my system, that's when you know you are getting good
[12:03] <maximiliano> thanks a lot, mate
[12:03] <javaJake> maximiliano: commands involving "make install" is a bad idea, for one thing. Using repositories besides the official ones can also very easily break your system.
[12:03] <javaJake> maximiliano: and if anyone tells you to fiddle with the kernel, well, forget it. ;)
[12:03] <maximiliano> wow, really you break purposefully your system?
[12:03] <javaJake> maximiliano: no, this is from experience. :D
[12:03] <SNuxoll> maximiliano: yeah, I miss having things not work :P
[12:04] <maximiliano> okay, copy that...
[12:04] <javaJake> haha
[12:04] <maximiliano> :P
[12:04] <Pirate_Hunter> where is the conky config file located? it isnt in /home/.conky at least the folder is not there
[12:04] <JyZyXEL> a CPU stress tool?
[12:04] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: ~/.conkyrc
[12:04] <maximiliano> thanks javaJake
[12:04] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: ~/ being the same as /home/username/
[12:04] <javaJake> maximiliano: yw
[12:05] <maximiliano> Now, I've to go, and get to work
[12:05] <maximiliano> SYL
[12:05] <maximiliano> I guess...
[12:05] <javaJake> SYL?...
[12:05] <maximiliano> see you later...
[12:05] <threefcata> how to force convmv to work when it spits out the error 'xxx doesn't cover all needed characters for ....‘？
[12:05] <Pirate_Hunter> javaJake: yes thats what i meant and i cant find that folder and yes hidden files are shown, im just wondering if the directory is different if using hardy 0_o but it shouldn't?
[12:05] <javaJake> maximiliano: heh, OK. :P
[12:06] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: which folder? /home? That's strange. Also, .conkyrc is created when you create it. Conky just uses default settings if it doesn't exist.
[12:06] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: are you talking about /home though?
[12:06] <Kurko> how i get jack sense work whit my laptop (asus f3ka)?
[12:06] <mask> in which file does ubutu maintains linux command shell history
[12:06] <thoreauputic> Pirate_Hunter: don't know about conky, but some apps have moved user config files to ~/.config
[12:07] <thoreauputic> mask: ~/.bash_history
[12:07] <javaJake> thoreauputic: yea, I hate when they do that. Really, rc files are much more fun. ;)
[12:07] <DistroJockey> !hardy
[12:07] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:07] <thoreauputic> mask: for each user
[12:07] <n2diy> I'm running Dapper, 6.06, and I'm considering an upgrade, suggestions?
[12:07] <Pirate_Hunter> javaJake: yeha i need to find the file/folder .conkyrc to change its settings and yeah its not the in /home/username/.
[12:07] <DistroJockey> n2diy: wait 12 days :)
[12:07] <SNuxoll> n2diy: wait for Hardy to be released
[12:07] <thoreauputic> javaJake: on the other hand, it kind of makes sense to put all that stuff in one directory
[12:07] <SNuxoll> n2diy: it'll be a straight upgrade
[12:08] <Sinnerman> oooh. only 12 days! :D
[12:08] <Pirate_Hunter> thoreauputic: #/.config was the first place i looked and its not there either
[12:08] <DistroJockey> :)
[12:08] <thoreauputic> javaJake: it's just confusing when you are used to the traditional way :)
[12:08] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: er, /home/$USER/ as in /home/<yourusernamehere>
[12:08] <javaJake> thoreauputic: I know I was jus' kidding
[12:08] <n2diy> DistroJockey: SNuxoll, Roger.
[12:09] <thoreauputic> Pirate_Hunter: running out of ideas then :) Have you run conky yet? A lot of apps only place the dot files on first run...
[12:09] <Pirate_Hunter> javaJake: yes not there its not anywhere it should be, :/ whats the comamnd search for files/folder in terminal
[12:09] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: can you even log in?
[12:09] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: you can't login without a home directory. That's what's getting me
[12:09] <javaJake> At least, not if I recall correctly
[12:10] <javaJake> -not
[12:10] <filemile> well
[12:10] <filemile> you can login without home
[12:10] <filemile> but not graphical
[12:10] <javaJake> filemile: right right, that's what I meant
[12:10] <filemile> you have to use the console
[12:11] <filemile> javajake: ah sorry, just came back from lunch
[12:11] <javaJake> filemile: np
[12:12] <Pirate_Hunter> javaJake: i cna login i have the folders there except for conky i need to find where it was isntalled cause  i cnat find it :/
[12:12] <threefcata> how to force convmv to work when it spits out the error 'xxx doesn't cover all needed characters for ....‘？
[12:12] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: heh, as I said
[12:12] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the command to find files or folders in terminal, pfind doesnt seem to work but thats for puppy :(
[12:12] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: .conkyrc does NOT exist until YOU create it
[12:12] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: locate <filename>
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[12:13] <Pirate_Hunter> javaJake: oh thats what you meant sorry ill create the file than
[12:13] <thoreauputic> mask: no worries :)
[12:13] <javaJake> *whew* glad we got that one straight. ;)
[12:14] <thoreauputic> javaJake: heh - that never occurred to me :) I don't use conky though...
[12:14] <rhandyk> I just installed a new cd-rom drive on my laptop, what do i need to do to make ubuntu recognize my new drive
[12:14] <rhandyk> the drive isn't working, presumably ubuntu is using the old driver
[12:15] <Pirate_Hunter> javaJake: if the file dont exist until i create it how does conky still work? i just dont get that...??
[12:15] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: .conkyrc is just a settings file
[12:15] <toto4> hi how change the sound volume on xbuntu ?
[12:15] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: if it doesn't exist, it'll just use its default settings
[12:15] <neogojira> conky m'a conquis
[12:15] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: .conkyrc let's you change those settings to customize conky to your liking
[12:16] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: conky probably has some settings stored in /etc or inside itself somewhere, but your .conkyrc can modify those just for you.
[12:16] <threefcata> anyone used convmv before?
[12:16] <Pirate_Hunter> javaJake: oh thats how, nice one more thing i learnt this morning well will make the file and see what happens
[12:16] <javaJake> !anyone
[12:16] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:17] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: good luck! :)
[12:17] <threefcata> how to force convmv to work when it spits out the error 'xxx doesn't cover all needed characters for ....‘？
[12:17] <threefcata> i asked several times..
[12:18] <Pirate_Hunter> !patience | threefcata
[12:18] <ubotu> threefcata: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:19] <DistroJockey> threefcata: maybe you shouldn't be looking for xxx related stuff
[12:19] <toto4> nobody have xubuntu ?
[12:20] <rhandyk> !noone
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about noone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <neogojira> If I install 8.04 beta, it is possible to apt-get upgrade to get 8.04 stable ?
[12:20] <Ziroday> neogojira: yes
[12:20] <rhandyk> when you install a new cd-rom drive, do you have to manually configure it in ubuntu?
[12:20] <neogojira> no need to edit sources.conf?
[12:20] <Ziroday> rhandyk: no
[12:20] <Ziroday> neogojira: no
[12:20] <neogojira> thx Ziroday
[12:21] <javaJake> threefcata: sometimes, if your problem is fairly unusual or very specific to your situation, no one around here will have had experience. You'll probably find better help at Ubuntu's forums or convmv's own forums or mailing lists.
[12:21] <Pirate_Hunter> javaJake: is .conkyrc a text file or does it have a different extension
[12:21] <Ziroday> neogojira: no problem :)
[12:21] <neogojira> :)
[12:21] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: it's a text file
[12:21] <Pirate_Hunter> javaJake: ok
[12:22] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: Linux ignores extensions for the most part and uses what's called MIME (or something close to that) to identify types of files. :)
[12:22] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: you can see this in action by writing "file <nameoffile>" in a terminal to find out what kind of file it is
[12:22] <Pirate_Hunter> javaJake: kk now i need to find what MIME is lol
[12:23] <FreakyFred> Hey, do you guys think you could help me with an installation problem? I am trying to install 7.10, but it always just goes directly to the terminal. I have tried a startx, but that just gives me a No screens found error. i am using an 8800gt with 2 connected monitors, bot with a DVI to VGA converter.
[12:24] <javaJake> Pirate_Hunter: it's not that big of a deal.
[12:24] <neogojira> FreakyFred, what about xorgconf?
[12:24] <FreakyFred> Neogojira, I am a comlete linux noob, could you please give more detailed instructions?
[12:24] <Pirate_Hunter> javaJake: maybe but than you know it and i dont :( and since im not doing much except for changing stuff in hardy ill take a look at it
[12:25] <neogojira> type xorgconf in a console/terminal and choose good settings that apply ur hardware
[12:25] <neogojira> search google for more info (Ubuntu xorgconf)
[12:26] <FreakyFred> It says command not found...
[12:26] <threefcata> DistroJockey: ???xxx related??
[12:27] <DistroJockey> threefcata: bad joke I guess
[12:28] <Erosion> !fonts
[12:28] <DistroJockey> threefcata: but thanks for replying 10 minutes later
[12:28] <Erosion> !fonts
[12:28] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[12:29] <threefcata> DistroJockey: was chatting in another channel...
[12:29] <rovell74> #ubuntu-it
[12:30] <UanRA> hi
[12:30] <hischild> so well, why would video's get visual corruption every few minutes, even though that the real video data is fine?
[12:31] <didy2> yoyo
[12:31] <Erosion> !get-started
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about get-started - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <didy2> if i installed ubuntu 8.04 beta now... can i upgrade to final version (without remove/install again) when final version out?
[12:31] <Erosion> Is there a link of things to do when you 1ST get ubuntu?
[12:31] <Erosion> didy2: yes.
[12:31] <Dr_willis> Erosion,  read the docs? :)
[12:32] <FreakyFred> hey, neogojira, did you mean xorg.conf?
[12:32] <Dr_willis> or do ya mean a Link On the desktop to things to read?
[12:32] <didy2> Erosion: yes so its possible?
[12:32] <mmm4m5m> Help: please please give me litle help with bash scripts. I have few simple questions. Is there better way to do this: new_line=$(echo -e "\n");
[12:33] <ikonia> mmm4m5m: you'll find solid help in #bash
[12:33] <sivang> hi all
[12:33] <sivang> does anybody know if the gutsy kernel comes with the frambuffer driver compiled in ?
[12:33] <mmm4m5m> ikonia: ok, 10x will try
[12:33] <didy2> another question: does ubuntu come with 1-click-install like suse for compiz fusion etc?
[12:33] <unop> mmm4m5m, that is the best way
[12:33] <Dr_willis> mmm4m5m,  a read of the advanced bash scripting guide will come in handy also.   You could just use the proper escape sequence.
[12:33] <tureseDOC> !list
[12:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:33] <ikonia> sivang: I think it does
[12:33] <neogojira> FreakyFred, sorry i meant xorgcfg / xorgconfig
[12:33] <sivang> i'm trying splashy and it keeps complaning that the framebuffer driver was not set up correctly
[12:33] <unop> mmm4m5m, or actually.  new_line=$'\n'
[12:34] <FreakyFred> thanks :)
[12:34] <ikonia> sivang: setup is not "not compiled" or missing
[12:34] <neogojira> FreakyFred, it is "auto"-config of xorg.conf file
[12:34] <unop> mmm4m5m, i don't see why you need to define a new variable like that when one already exists. $'\n'
[12:34] <sivang> when i add vga=791 to the kernel command line nothing changes for the good
[12:34] <sivang> ikonia: ^
[12:34] <sivang> ikonia: still the same error
[12:34] <ikonia> sivang: what do you mean "for good"
[12:34] <sivang> ikonia: i mean, make it work
[12:34] <ikonia> sivang: that should only effect the console
[12:35] <neogojira> np FreakyFred :)
[12:35] <ikonia> sivang: I can set different resolutions quite comfortably with vga=$
[12:35] <didy2> another question: does ubuntu come with 1-click-install like suse for compiz fusion etc?
[12:35] <ikonia> sivang: try vga=ask see what it comes back with
[12:35] <ikonia> didy2: open synaptic package manager and you'll see how easy it is
[12:35] <didy2> ok but that's the latest version?
[12:35] <ikonia> didy2: that latest version of what ?
[12:36] <didy2> compiz fusion that comes with synpatic
[12:36] <sivang> ikonia: why is /dev/fb# missing then if the driver is compiled into the kernel ?
[12:36] <ikonia> didy2: it's the latest packaged version for ubuntu 7.10
[12:36] <Cola> hi
[12:36] <sint> hey, i wanna burn something on dvd in k3b and it tells me that my filenames are to long. is there a way to fix this without loosing support to have it readable everywhere??
[12:36] <ikonia> sivang: I have no idea why it's not working for you
[12:36] <didy2> well i'm gonna try 8.04 beta, does it come with the latest version of compiz fusion?
[12:36] <ganastasiou_> anyone knows a good application to watch my ftp server?
[12:36] <ganastasiou_> to see my clients
[12:36] <sivang> ikonia: okay, i'll try vga=ask and see what happens
[12:37] <ikonia> didy2: no, it will come with the latest version of compiz-fusion package for ubuntu 8.04
[12:37] <sivang> I have a hunch the fbdev was not compiled in my stock kernel
[12:37] <ikonia> sivang: that is possible
[12:37] <sivang> ikonia: i thought it was not possibe since i'm using a stock kernel
[12:37] <sivang> ikonia: usplash works fine
[12:37] <ikonia> sivang: I mean it's possible it was not compiled in
[12:37] <didy2> i dont get you ikonia, sorry... so yes or no.. im confused
[12:37] <ikonia> sivang: if usplash is working, then it is in
[12:37] <Cola> i need help, when my monitor goes to standby i cannot turn it on anymore and all tasks in ubuntu stop working pls help
[12:38] <sivang> ikonia: i see, okay, i'll try vga=ask, thanks dude
[12:38] <ikonia> didy2: it is not the latest verson of compiz-fusion as that changes very fast. It is the latest version that has been package for ubuntu 8.04
[12:38] <didy2> ah
[12:38] <didy2> is there anyway to update it from synaptix?
[12:38] <ikonia> didy2: no, not until a later version of the ubuntu package is created
[12:39] <didy2> how about on opensuse? issit possible?
[12:39] <|Debian|> this is ubuntu
[12:39] <caneca> Hi folks
[12:39] <didy2> so which version of compiz fusion does 8.04 beta come with and 7.10 please...?
[12:39] <caneca> They can verify that is working: http://caneca.no-ip.org/ ?
[12:39] <dudeeee34> hello
[12:39] <ikonia> didy2: take a look
[12:39] <dudeeee34> i am new to ubuntu
[12:40] <dudeeee34> and i need some help
[12:40] <Cola> didy2: with 7.10 comes 0.6
[12:40] <ikonia> didy2: it's not possible in any distro that users package managment
[12:40] <sriramoman> where do i get gambas for ubuntu 7.10 x86_64
[12:40] <didy2> 8.04?
[12:40] <ikonia> sriramoman: is it not in the ubuntu repos ?
[12:40] <dudeeee34> can someone help me enable my wlan on my laptop on ubuntu
[12:40] <caneca> help-me :-(
[12:40] <ikonia> caneca: what's the problem ?
[12:40] <Cola> i need help, when my monitor goes to standby i cannot turn it on anymore and all tasks in ubuntu stop working pls help
[12:41] <heymr> when I connect to the network I am known as '(null)'
[12:41] <heymr> why?
[12:41] <caneca> ikonia, They can verify that is working: http://caneca.no-ip.org/ ?
[12:41] <heymr> my hostname is read as null at the dhcp client list
[12:41] <caneca> ikonia, I'm working the apache...
[12:41] <ikonia> caneca: why ? this is ubuntu support
[12:41] <caneca> ikonia, know
[12:42] <sriramoman> ikonia: in the ubuntu repos it says that there is no gambas version for my comp.
[12:42] <ikonia> caneca: it's not working
[12:42] <caneca> No?
[12:42] <ikonia> sriramoman: then you'd need an external repo
[12:42] <Cola> some1 help me pls
[12:42] <ikonia> Cola: does it respond to ctrl+alt+del
[12:42] <Cola> ikonia:  no
[12:42] <sriramoman> ikonia: i remember that in gambas itself there is a redirection where to get. but the redirected page got removed somewhere yesterday. or so.
[12:42] <ikonia> Cola: does the PC respond ?
[12:43] <didy2> how can i install compiz fusion 7.04 on ubuntu 8.04 please...
[12:43] <Cola> no
[12:43] <ikonia> sriramoman: ok
[12:43] <Dr_willis> !compiz | didy2
[12:43] <ubotu> didy2: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[12:43] <ikonia> Cola: ok, so your PC has not woke up then
[12:43] <ikonia> Cola: not the monitor
[12:43] <sriramoman> ikonia: is gambas installed in ur system/is it x86_64?
[12:43] <Dr_willis> didy2,  compiz is included by default on ubuntu. YOu may want to install the ccsm tool for extra features/control
[12:43] <ikonia> sriramoman: no
[12:43] <Cola> u thing my computer went to sleep?
[12:43] <ikonia> Cola: yes
[12:43] <Cola> possibly
[12:43] <ikonia> Cola: try pressing the power button to wake it
[12:43] <Cola> let me see
[12:44] <heymr> my hostname is read as null at the dhcp client list
[12:44] <Dr_willis> !info gambas2
[12:44] <ubotu> gambas2 (source: gambas2): Complete visual development environment for Gambas. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.49-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 53 kB, installed size 88 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:44] <Dr_willis> Interesting..   (Only available for i386)
[12:44] <Cola> but in power managment : put computer to sleep when is inactive for: NEVER
[12:45] <ikonia> Cola: one thing at a time,
[12:45] <Cola> ?
[12:45] <didy2> is xunbutu better?
[12:45] <ikonia> didy2: no
[12:45] <ikonia> didy2: it's a different desktop
[12:45] <Dr_willis> didy2,  depends on your needs.
[12:45] <ikonia> didy2: it's personal opinion
[12:45] <Cola> ikonia:  i dont understand
[12:45] <ikonia> Cola: find out if your desktop is asleep first
[12:45] <didy2> ok.. os what does xbuntu provide...
[12:45] <ikonia> didy2: xfce desktop
[12:45] <Cola> ikonia:  how?
[12:45] <didy2> xfce?
[12:46] <Dr_willis> the XFCE desktop is very useable its the default in xubuntu. You can easially install xubuntu-desktop and try it out
[12:46] <ikonia> didy2: http://www.ubuntu.com will introduce you to ubuntu
[12:46] <ikonia> Cola: press the power button ?
[12:46] <Cola> ok
[12:46] <dudeeee34> someone please help me
[12:46] <IdleOne> !anyone
[12:46] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:46] <ikonia> dudeeee34: what's up
[12:47] <bouma> hi
[12:47] <dudeeee34> i am new to ubuntu and i have a wlan key to enable my wireless
[12:47] <DistroJockey> Cola: does pressing   alt+f2   get you to a terminal?
[12:47] <IdleOne> morning ikonia
[12:47] <dudeeee34> but know when i press it it wont turn on
[12:47] <ikonia> morning
[12:47] <Cola> no
[12:47] <bouma> the ubuntu bootloader has stopped me booting into xp
[12:47] <bouma> what should i do
[12:47] <XTeLiS_> is it a dell ?
[12:47] <ikonia> bouma: what is the error it gives you
[12:47] <Cola> alt+f2 is for run
[12:47] <XTeLiS_> format /windows
[12:48] <ikonia> XTeLiS_: what ?
[12:48] <ikonia> XTeLiS_: why have you said that ?
[12:48] <XTeLiS_> who needs xp
[12:48] <ikonia> XTeLiS_: that is not advice, and not something we should offer as advice
[12:48] <IdleOne> XTeLiS_: please dont give out harmful commands
[12:48] <unop> XTeLiS_, please refrain from saying things like that, this is a support channel
[12:48] <XTeLiS_> get linux XP2008 or ubuntu vista 2008
[12:48] <DistroJockey> Cola: do the leds say it's running?
[12:48] <dudeeee34> anyone?
[12:48] <gogeta> XTeLiS_ ?
[12:48] <bouma> ikonia: windows could not start bacause the following file is missing
[12:48] <bouma> <windows root>\system32\hal.dll or corrupt
[12:48] <bouma> please reinstall a copy of the above files.
[12:48] <Cola> nothing
[12:48] <XTeLiS_> sorry
[12:48] <ikonia> XTeLiS_: please don't behave like that in this channel
[12:48] <Cola> its just black screen
[12:49] <ikonia> bouma: thats nothing to o with grub
[12:49] <Cola> like he went to sleep
[12:49] <kyrandesa> dudeeee34: normally you can do that all in networkmanager
[12:49] <ikonia> bouma: your windows install appears corrupted
[12:49] <dudeeee34> where is that?
[12:49] <bouma> ikonia: perhaps not todo with grub
[12:49] <XTeLiS_> doood... your toast if your hal is messed up
[12:49] <dudeeee34> where is network manager?
[12:49] <Cola> but in power managment option for sleep is never
[12:49] <DistroJockey> Cola: sorry, meant ctrl+alt+f2
[12:49] <bouma> ikonia: but my xp was completely fine before i installed 7.10 from a cd
[12:49] <bouma> ikonia: it _IS_ the result of installing ubuntu
[12:49] <ikonia> bouma: did you resize the disk to install ubuntu ?
[12:49] <bouma> ikonia: no
[12:50] <bouma> ikonia: i did an advanced .. partition option
[12:50] <XTeLiS_> thats the problem with hal....
[12:50] <ikonia> bouma: and you didn't resize/alter any of the partitions ?
[12:50] <kyrandesa> dudeeee34: if you have a graphical interface, there should be an icon
[12:50] <unop> bouma, this is not a grub error message but a message returned to you by the windows bootloader .. do you even get to the grub screen (before you get this message)
[12:50] <unop> ?
[12:50] <dudeeee34> yea but i tried
[12:50] <bouma> ikonia: i chose a new partition in the unused space and did not alter any existing partition, i had planned this for several days
[12:50] <dudeeee34> i just need to turn on my wlan
[12:50] <Cola> DistroJockey: ill try it
[12:50] <Cola> idk
[12:51] <dudeeee34> but its button wont do anything
[12:51] <gogeta>  bouma well its a unrealted error then just bad luck
[12:51] <bouma> ikonia: i observed the option to install grub on (hd0) which i thought was ok. it picked up xp and added it to the boot menu, but it wont boot
[12:51] <DistroJockey> Cola: if it doesn't work, I'll tell you a good way to reboot
[12:51] <didy2> so how do i install compiz fusion 0.74 on hardy heron........
[12:51] <unop> gogeta, try and be supportive :)
[12:51] <kyrandesa> dudeeee34: if you enabled it by hardware, try typing: sudo network-admin
[12:51] <bouma> gogeta: its not unrelated
[12:51] <ikonia> bouma: ok, first thing to do is remove grub from the equasion. Use a Windows disk and put the windows boot loader back on the mbr
[12:51] <gogeta>  bouma hal dll is normaly killed by a infection
[12:51] <dudeeee34> where do i type it?
[12:51] <PriceChild> where is the icedtea executable?
[12:52] <kyrandesa> dudeeee34: in a terminal
[12:52] <dudeeee34> thankyou
[12:52] <trask> my ubuntu crashes like 10 times daily, is there a log somewhere where i can track the malfunction and stop it?
[12:52] <unop> PriceChild, which icedtea; whereis icedtea #?
[12:52] <gogeta>  bouma if you can get safe mode maybe you can do a restore point
[12:52] <bouma> gogeta: ... yeah i follow you, but if the partition was booting fine. installing grub wouldnt change anything
[12:52] <didy2> so how do i install compiz fusion 0.74 on hardy heron........
[12:53] <Peanut> Hi - I have a machine (Intel C2duo) with 4GB of RAM but meminfo only shows 3.6GB. Is this a limitation of the chipset, or the kernel (running 7.10/2.6.22-14-generic) ?
[12:53] <PriceChild> unop: i think it seems to be in /usr/share after a dpkg -L
[12:53] <XTeLiS_> dudeeee34:  y0 ....
[12:53] <dudeeee34> what
[12:53] <gogeta>  bouma no it wouldent but if windows was aruldy was messed up and it just showed up now
[12:53] <DistroJockey> !hardy | didy2
[12:53] <ubotu> didy2: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[12:53] <dudeeee34> ?
[12:53] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me how i cna fix this error message http://pastebin.com/m6383db59 and why it shows?
[12:53] <kyrandesa> dudeeee34: did it work?
[12:53] <unop> PriceChild, it could be, but /usr/share isnt usually in your $PATH variable, so icedtea is probably invoked by something else then
[12:53] <XTeLiS_> are you on a dell ?
[12:53] <kyrandesa> dudeeee34: or did you see your wlan at least?
[12:53] <PriceChild> maybe not
[12:54] <dudeeee34> no
[12:54] <dudeeee34> my wlan has a button that i can click on my laptop
[12:54] <XTeLiS_> is it a broadcom controller ?
[12:54] <dudeeee34> it is now turned off and i cant turn it on
[12:54] <bouma> ikonia: gogeta sounds like a troll. but seriously.. ive never ever had this problem installing grub manually. this i the first time ive installed ubuntu cause i need a fortran compiler quickly
[12:54] <gogeta>  bouma if you can get to safe mode try a restore might reverse the damage
[12:54] <PriceChild> unop: unop maybe /usr/lib then.. :)
[12:54] <unop> PriceChild, whereis ought to tell you .. have you tried it yet?
[12:54] <XTeLiS_> you need to update the firmware
[12:54] <XTeLiS_> for the controller
[12:54] <PriceChild> unop: its not in path
[12:54] <kyrandesa> dudeeee34: try typing 'dmesg' into your terminal and then the button
[12:55] <XTeLiS_> jo_r_http://www.linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view
[12:55] <unop> PriceChild, whereis does not act on $PATH .. it works differently
[12:55] <unop> bouma, do you have a windows CD handy?
[12:55] <dudeeee34> it gave me a bunch of error
[12:55] <gogeta>  bouma thin what you will but hal.dll is unrealted frim anything grub or ubuntu
[12:55] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me how i cna fix this error message http://pastebin.com/m6383db59 and why it shows when using command gksudo nautilus?
[12:55] <kyrandesa> dudeeee34: did it tell you what kind of card you have?
[12:55] <chimp> Is there a command that will allow me to see the indivual core usage of an intel quad core
[12:56] <bouma> gogeta: i can strongly suggest that this is a genuine bug. im happy to dd seek some sector to help resolve it .. but yeah i do have a xp cd and im about to use it
[12:56] <dudeeee34> no
[12:56] <dudeeee34> lemme check
[12:56] <bouma> unop: yes ive got an xp cd
[12:56] <dudeeee34> no
[12:56] <gogeta>  bouma if you think its grub then why not use the supergrub cd and remove it
[12:57] <didy2> hahhahahahha
[12:57] <bouma> unop: i can get my xp working most likely.. i guess i can reboot into the livecd and do grub manually
[12:57] <jagggy> hey guys, how do i get 4 desktops instead of 2 ?
[12:57] <bouma> ok fine
[12:57] <bouma> but this is a bug
[12:57] <PriceChild> unop: makes sense, i don't really know what its called though, only used it as mozilla plugin before :)
[12:57] <bouma> perhaps i should go with 8.04
[12:57] <PriceChild> jagggy: right click the workspace switcher bottom right... sure youc an guess from there ;)
[12:57] <dudeeee34> ah man
[12:57] <unop> bouma, ok, what i recommend you do is boot off the XP cd, get to the recovery console and attempt to fix the windows bootloader first (i think fixboot/fixmbr do it, ask in #windows if that doesnt get you anywhere) .. once that is done and you have XP working fine, boot the ubuntu CD and repair grub ..
[12:58] <kittykitty> I am trying to use the vmware-player package, during the installation it gives error "Module vmnet is not loaded..." and trying modprobe vmnet reports module not found.
[12:58] <jagggy> PriceChild, ty allot, searchd it for ages :s
[12:58] <kyrandesa> dudeeee34: i had some problems with my wireless and it normally helped to reboot and having the wireless turned on for it. otherwise - no idea, sorry
[12:58] <dudeeee34> ok ill try it
[12:58] <dudeeee34> but ubuntu deleted my windows side
[12:58] <gogeta> unop only thing hes gonna do is make the pc compleatly unbootable
[12:58] <kittykitty> anyone have history with this issue that can offer a quick kick in the right direction?
[12:58] <dudeeee34> so that sucks
[12:58] <gogeta> lol
[12:59] <kyrandesa> dudeeee34: if you don't tell it to do so, it shouldn't do it
[12:59] <gogeta> bouma acully now that i think if it i bet the partation table cruppted
[12:59] <unop> PriceChild, you didnt say if whereis returned anything.. anyway, all else failing.. try these two.  locate icedtea | grep -i "/bin/"; find / -iname "*icedtea*" -type f | grep -i "/bin/"
[12:59] <dudeeee34> arite thanks for the help
[13:00] <dudeeee34> ill give it a try
[13:00] <unop> gogeta, can you please be supportive and contribute positively? if not, then refrain from saying anything, that's easy enough.
[13:00] <gogeta> unop lol that was
[13:00] <kittykitty> ok guess not, back to beating the forum for answers
[13:00] <gogeta> unop he used his own tools it may have botched up the partation
[13:01] <bouma> unop: yes, true, sorry to sound bitchy.. well .. hey i had heard from someone that ubuntu overwrote the bootloader with disastrous results and then it happened to me... not so good. and really, as someone who came from linux from scratch before gentoo existed then used gentoo for many years, ie from 98+ using custom compile flags to get 233mhz lappys to decode fullscreen divx .. only to defer to a more instant distro now that im in a hurry
[13:01] <unop> bouma, does grub boot linux ok?
[13:01] <bouma> unop: yeah linux is booting fine, but xp will no longer boot
[13:02] <|Debian|> what a shame.
[13:02] <|Debian|> lol :P
[13:02] <kittykitty> lol
[13:02] <unop> bouma, ok, what steps did you take exactly to get grub to boot XP? if you can !pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[13:02] <bouma> meh
[13:03] <Ehlyah> Trying to set up a wired internet connection (desktop to router), but it won't work. network monitor says the interface does not exist. Ifconfig gives me eth0 and eth0:avah.
[13:03] <|Debian|> bouma: add xp to grub ?
[13:03] <bouma> unop: grub wont boot xp
[13:03] <kittykitty> bouma grub boots xp fine for me
[13:03] <bouma> unop: xp is an option, the menu item is something like, root (hd0,1) , chainloader+
[13:03] <PriceChild> update-alternatives --config java: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-icedtea/jre/bin/java
[13:03] <Dr_willis> The grub menu.lst had an example to boot windows on the first hard drive. i recall.
[13:03] <PriceChild> unop: ^
[13:04] <bouma> kittykitty: yeah of course, its just this specific instance where i had xp working fine and then installed 70.10
[13:04] <gogeta> hda 0,0
[13:04] <unop> PriceChild, so does that answer your question then? :)
[13:04] <kittykitty> are you still trying to resolve the issue bouma? i can probably help you if you want
[13:04]  * |Debian| is running 6.10 with PPC 
[13:05] <PriceChild> unop: yup
[13:05] <gogeta> Debian :-(
[13:05] <unop> PriceChild, cool :)
[13:05] <SpAc> tried a lot of different solutions but having a hard time getting Hardy to run nicely under VMWare. Anyone else had experiences?
[13:05] <Ehlyah> Trying to set up a wired internet connection (desktop to router), but it won't work. network monitor says the interface does not exist. Ifconfig gives me eth0 and eth0:avah. eth0:avah does have an inet addr, bcast and mask, but nothing works
[13:05] <|Debian|> gogeta:  it owns :P
[13:05] <unop> !hardy | SpAc
[13:05] <ubotu> SpAc: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:06] <|Debian|> uhm.
[13:06] <bouma> ok sure, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[13:06] <bouma> Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[13:06] <bouma> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
[13:06] <bouma> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[13:06] <bouma> Disk identifier: 0xe001e001
[13:06] <bouma>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[13:06] <FloodBot2> bouma: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <SpAc> unop, sorry
[13:06] <|Debian|> 8.04 support PC ?
[13:06] <|Debian|> ROFL
[13:06] <danijel> klkk
[13:06] <danijel> was
[13:06] <SpookyET> How do you override gnome theme settings? I've tried ~/.gtkrc or ~/.gtkrc-2.0 but, it doesn't work?
[13:06] <unop> bouma, use a !pastebin please
[13:06] <kittykitty> use paste bin bouma :D
[13:06] <danijel> hello was
[13:07] <danijel> Danije Slovenia Linux
[13:07] <kittykitty> or just type slower !
[13:07] <bouma> title           Microsoft Windows XP Professional; root            (hd0,1); savedefault; makeactive; chainloader  +1
[13:07] <unop> kittykitty, pastebin preferred over spamming anyday :)
[13:07] <kongove> grub
[13:07] <Ehlyah> Trying to set up a wired internet connection (desktop to router), but it won't work. network monitor says the interface does not exist. Ifconfig gives me eth0 and eth0:avah. eth0:avah does have an inet addr, bcast and mask, but nothing works. I've tried filling the ip, subnet mask and gateway addr into the network settings, but still nothing
[13:08] <|Debian|> sweet .. 8.04 is supporting PPC
[13:08] <gogeta> unop shoudent that be hd0,0
[13:08] <t1n0m3n> are realplayer files possible to play on 7.10 x64?  I can't seem to find some x64 codecs.  any help would be appreciated
[13:08] <kittykitty> bouma what does it say when grub is trying to boot that option?
[13:08] <|Debian|> t1n0m3n: xmms ?
[13:08] <unop> gogeta, it probably should be, but that depends if XP is on the first primary partition or not
[13:08] <didy2> ok i delete suse partitions.. leaving me with a FREE SPACE and UNALLOCATED partitions.. how can i merge them or issit ok? im gonna install ubuntu now!
[13:09] <bouma> kittykitty: it says, windows could not start because the following file is missing
[13:09] <bouma> <windows root>\system32\hal.dll is missing or corrupt
[13:09] <bouma> please reinstall a copy of the above files.
[13:09] <unop> bouma, is XP on the first primary partition?
[13:09] <|Debian|> didy2: YOU GO BOY !!
[13:09] <t1n0m3n> |Debian|: Let me try that
[13:09] <|Debian|> =)
[13:09] <kittykitty> bouma: did you resize your partitions or move the xp one to a logical drive ?
[13:10] <Ehlyah> Trying to set up a wired internet connection (desktop to router), but it won't work. network monitor says the interface does not exist. Ifconfig gives me eth0, which does have an inet addr, bcast and mask, but nothing works. I've tried filling the ip, subnet mask and gateway addr into the network settings, but still nothing
[13:10] <kittykitty> I migrated my xp  partitions over to a larger hd with linux infront of it, and had the same problems
[13:10] <gogeta> kittykitty lol if he moved xp we found the ssue windows dies if you do that
[13:10] <bouma> unop: yes, well you see i installed xp just before ubuntu. and xp's convoluted partition config proggy forced an 8meg empty partition before the xp partition no matter how hard i tried to force it to be at the start
[13:11] <kittykitty> bouma paste bin your fdisk -l so we can see it :D
[13:11] <Dr_willis> bouma,  seen that 8mb thing befor.. :)   thats why i always partition disks with a linux live cd.
[13:11] <bouma> kittykitty: haha
[13:11] <sorin> irssi seems useful, but it feels like 80s using it
[13:11] <gogeta> bouma you leave that 8meg empty alone
[13:11] <bouma> Dr_willis: its like lvms or something..
[13:11] <t1n0m3n> |Debian|: Looks like there is a rplay codec included, thanks a bunch
[13:11] <unop_> boubbin, if what you are saying is true -- then hd0,1 does not reflect the partition XP is on, it ought to be hd0,0
[13:11] <gogeta> bouma it still would be hd0,0
[13:11] <|Debian|> t1n0m3n: no problem
[13:11] <Ehlyah> Trying to set up a wired internet connection (desktop to router), but it won't work. network monitor says the interface does not exist. Ifconfig gives me eth0, which does have an inet addr, bcast and mask, but nothing works. I've tried filling the ip, subnet mask and gateway addr into the network settings, but still nothing
[13:12] <|Debian|> what PHP editors are there around ?
[13:12] <kittykitty> gogeta, he's getting the right error from xp booting, so he's pointing at the right partition, he's just having an xp issue right now
[13:12] <bouma> gogeta: yes, i left it alone
[13:12] <the_herby> does anyone know how to skip a fdisk at boot time? for example when the day period kicks in and you just restarted a importand box.. that should come up quickly again
[13:12] <bouma> kittykitty: very cute telling me im having an xp error. but it didnt exist before i put this ubuntu cd in my computer
[13:12] <unop_> kittykitty, hd0,1 does not point to the first partition (which i believe is the partition which XP is on in his case)
[13:13] <sonystar_147537> moin
[13:13] <gogeta> kittykitty sounds like its cruppted 90% of the time hal.dll = dead windows
[13:13] <bicho> hi guys, first time here
[13:13] <icesword> ?
[13:13] <Ehlyah> Trying to set up a wired internet connection (desktop to router), but it won't work. network monitor says the interface does not exist. Ifconfig gives me eth0, which does have an inet addr, bcast and mask, but nothing works. I've tried filling the ip, subnet mask and gateway addr into the network settings, but still nothing
[13:13] <dudeeee34> my problem is kinda solved
[13:14] <bicho> just installed and audio is not working ... any work around or tip ?
[13:14] <kittykitty> hal.dll error is because your xp partition is in a non standard location, if you put it into a primary partition that is too far from the start of the disk it will do it
[13:14] <bouma> ok guys i shall reboot and use the xp 'repair' option. and then i will boot into the live cd .. tell me is pidgin on the live cd ?
[13:14] <dudeeee34> i got the wlan working now how do i connect to a wireless network?
[13:14] <unop_> bouma, do us a favour and try this out (no harm in it) - change "root  (hd0,1)"  to  "root   (hd0,0)" for the XP entry in your menu.lst
[13:14] <bouma> unop: ok i can do that too.. but btw, is pigin on the livecd ?
[13:14] <gogeta> kittykitty now i knoe thers a way around that
[13:14] <unop_> bouma, pidgin is available yes
[13:15] <dudeeee34> how do i connect to a wireless network?
[13:15] <unop_> bouma, but do try this out first, i have a feeling it ought to do the job
[13:15] <tobizaz> Hi, im having problems getting the nvidia driver to work.. tried the restricted drivers management,but when starting x it gives the error "failed to initiialize the nvidia graphics device".
[13:15] <bouma> unop: ok i'll try .. right
[13:15] <the_herby> bouma: pidgin should be on the live cd, as far as i remember.
[13:15] <bouma> unop: ok so ..  sudo nano /etc/grub/menu.lst ?
[13:15] <unop_> bouma, sure
[13:15] <bouma> unop:ok
[13:15] <Prefix> whats the gksudo command for KDE?
[13:16] <kittykitty> and can you pastebin your fdisk as well?
[13:16] <unop_> Prefix, kdesu
[13:16] <Prefix> ty
[13:16] <dudeeee34> can anyone help me?
[13:16] <Ehlyah> Trying to set up a wired internet connection (desktop to router), but it won't work. network monitor says the interface does not exist. Ifconfig gives me eth0, which does have an inet addr, bcast and mask, but nothing works. I've tried filling the ip, subnet mask and gateway addr into the network settings, but still nothing
[13:16] <unop_> dudeeee34, have you had a look at !wireless
[13:16] <unop_> ?
[13:16] <dudeeee34> at what?
[13:16] <unop_> !wireless | dudeeee34
[13:16] <ubotu> dudeeee34: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:17] <gogeta> kittykitty even better move that empty 8meg to the end of the disk repair grub he shouldbe good to go
[13:17] <dudeeee34> thankyou
[13:17] <Dr_willis> moveing an empty partition? :)
[13:17] <gogeta> yyea
[13:17] <unop_> Ehlyah, is the interface even brought up? can you ping your interface's address? how about the gateway's/routers's?
[13:17] <gogeta> a xp hal.dill error
[13:18] <Peanut> I have a machine (Intel C2duo) with 4GB of RAM but meminfo only shows 3.6GB. Is this a limitation of the chipset, or the kernel (running 7.10/2.6.22-14-generic) ?
[13:18] <Dr_willis> Peanut,  a bit of both.
[13:18] <kittykitty> if you got the time and know how to use google, just use partition magic :P
[13:18] <Ehlyah> unop_: it isn't brought up and I can't ping anything
[13:18] <tobizaz> Hi, im having problems getting the nvidia driver to work.. tried the restricted drivers management,but when starting x it gives the error "failed to initiialize the nvidia graphics device". im using an nvidia 7000 card on kubuntu 7.10
[13:19] <bicho> any idea over my audio problem ?
[13:19] <unop_> Ehlyah, what i meant was - sudo sh -c "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0"
[13:19] <Dr_willis> Peanut,  technicially you need to use a 64bit disrto to access over 4gb of ram.. BUT the machines bios/other hardware  can take away from the mazimum of 4gb of addressable space that a 32bit os can access.
[13:19] <hischild> tobizaz, join #kubuntu for support with kubuntu
[13:19] <timucin> Hi, can anybody givve me a hint how to transfer my kubuntu installation from one hard disk to another hard disk. My disk is failing and I do not want to setup from start, I'd like to copy all my disk to another new disk.
[13:19] <Dr_willis> Peanut,  with 64bit os  you still may not access all 4gb in your case.
[13:19] <kittykitty> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62919/
[13:19] <kittykitty> after being familiarized with the hal.dll error, thats how i've always done my dual boot systems
[13:20] <Peanut> Dr_willis: Ah, thanks - I knew I should never have switched away from UltraSparc ;-) Unfortunately, the application I run isn't available for 64bit Linux (at least not for free).
[13:20] <Dr_willis> Peanut,  i dont bother with 64bit linux anyway. :)
[13:20] <Juje007> How can I change the font size from the login screen
[13:20] <unop_> timucin, you can use dd in this fashion.  sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=8192 #but make sure that the second harddrive is as big as the first and has nothing on it, also make sure you have the right device names
[13:20] <Ehlyah> unop_: no dhcpoffers received and sleeping
[13:21] <unop_> Ehlyah, sounds like you haven't got a static IP address setup for that interface
[13:21] <srodden> Hello again. How do I set an env var such that it affects apps I launch within X? I added my export line to .bashrc but that doesn't seem to have worked.
[13:21] <unop_> Ehlyah, can you use a !pastebin (don't paste in here) and show us the contents of /etc/network/interfaces
[13:22] <Ehlyah> unop_: no, because I changed it. I've put it back to static now, I'll try again
[13:22] <kakoonia> Hi.. Im trying to use two screens together.. and i cant find a way to make one screen to be one side of my cube, any1 got a good idea of how to work that out, or maybe even give another way (better) to use two screens on ubuntu? :))
[13:22] <Juje007> How can I change the font size from the login screen
[13:22] <Dr_willis> kakoonia,  dual+ screen setups make the cube rather pathic looking.
[13:22] <unop_> srodden, did you log X out and log back in?
[13:22] <timucin> unop_, My old failing drive is 160GB and the new drive is only 80GB, but I have only 50GB on the old drive. When I googled this, from the dd manual, I have to have the same hard disk to be able to copy.
[13:22] <bouma> hey
[13:22] <srodden> I did, yes.
[13:22] <sriramoman> how do i add medibuntu repository?
[13:23] <Oli``> !medibuntu
[13:23] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[13:23] <Dr_willis> kakoonia,  when you have 2 Widescreen monitors like i got.. the cube even looks worse. :) then again.. i hate that useless cube
[13:23] <bouma> ok i changed it from root(hd0,1) to hd(0,0).. and then i got.. error 12: invalid device requested press any key to continue
[13:23] <Ehlyah> unop_: interface eth0 not configured, siocaddrt no such process, failed to bring up eth0
[13:23] <balle_> what does the "enable roaming mode" in the internet sittings do?
[13:24] <livingdaylight> is there a short-cut for launching terminal? like alt+cntr 't'?
[13:24] <srodden> Balle, turns on DHCP instead of static addressing.
[13:24] <bouma> ikonia: ok i can claim some responsibility for what could be a stupid situation.. but still i think its a valid corner case and i want to help solve what i belive is a bug
[13:24] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  you could add one if you wanted.
[13:24] <kakoonia> Dr_willis : i thought its a good way of using the two screens, i got a laptop + lcd, how do you work your screens out? now its configured as Separate X-screens
[13:24] <unop_> Ehlyah, can you use a !pastebin (don't paste in here) and show us the contents of /etc/network/interfaces
[13:24] <t1n0m3n> Hmm, xmms doesnt seem to want to play real play files either
[13:24] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis, how, please? i don't appear to have a shortcut in place as it is...
[13:25] <livingdaylight> is there not a default shortcut?
[13:25] <Dr_willis> kakoonia,  i tend to keep a few terminals, and  video playing on the right hand monitor.. OR i keep xchat over there. if im watching vidoes on the main monitor.
[13:25] <balle_> srodden: but you can use that as well
[13:25] <bouma> ikonia:i realised something after rebooting.. i only had the cd as the first boot option and no other boot option selected. but the xp cd goes onto the hdd if you dont press a key, .. so im not sure if this confused the ubuntu install routine
[13:25] <unop_> timucin, what you can do then is copy the partition table over to the new disk with dd and do the rest via rsync or tar/rsync .. are you familiar with how to do this?
[13:25] <timucin> is there any way to copy ubuntu installation from one disk to another disk? My disk is failing and I do not want to setup again.
[13:25] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  check the gnome settings - i dont use gnome so cant guide you. I tend to just put an icon onthe panel for a terminal. :)  of course I always have a terminal or 3 open anyway
[13:26] <unop_> timucin, and you need to do all this offline i.e. from within a LiveCD
[13:26] <srodden> unop: yes I relogged but when I launched, the variable hadn't taken effect. Is there a special place in .bashrc I need to add customisations?
[13:26] <kakoonia> Dr_willis: so what you mean, is that you use a wide desktop, that when you got with the crusor to right(on left screen) it passes to the right screen?
[13:26] <balle_> what does the "enable roaming mode" in the internet sittings do?
[13:26] <timucin> unop_, I'm not familiar with rrsync or dd.
[13:26] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis, thx... i was hoping for some gnome support in #ubuntu of course :)
[13:26] <kakoonia> when you go**
[13:26] <Dr_willis> kakoonia,  basicially.
[13:26] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  im in #kubuntu also. :P
[13:26] <kakoonia> Dr_willis: Thanks bro..
[13:26] <unop_> srodden, are you sure the variable is exported properly - open up a terminal and do this .  echo $VARIABLE
[13:26] <timucin> and after reding dd manual, I get scared. (I read somewhere mention dd being disk destroyer)
[13:27] <livingdaylight> Dr_willis, you're everywhere! :D
[13:27] <thoreauputic> timucin: there's a "Ghost for Linux" - ggogle it ( haven't used it for years but it is probably around still)
[13:27] <unop_> timucin, how many partitions does the first disk have?
[13:27] <Dr_willis> livingdaylight,  in #ubuntu+1 also. :P
[13:27] <bouma> kittykitty: hey
[13:27] <kittykitty> bouma:yes?
[13:27] <timucin> it has two partitions. one /  (root) and one /home partition.
[13:27] <kakoonia> Dr_willis: just one more thing, on my left screen i have all the installed components, and on the other, its like a fresh install.. how do i change that to be the same on the two screens?
[13:27] <bouma> kittykitty: well i changed my grub item just by pressing 'e' and editing the one line
[13:27] <kittykitty> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62919/
[13:28] <balle_> what does the "enable roaming mode" in the internet sittings do?
[13:28] <srodden> unop: yes it correclty reports "0".
[13:28] <unop_> timucin, you could do like thoreauputic says and use G4L .. it probably does all this easier
[13:28] <Ehlyah> unop_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62920/
[13:28] <Dr_willis> kakoonia,  fresh install?  On my right side screen is the desktop also. I can drag icons/panels/whatever over there.
[13:28] <kittykitty> ok, did it solve your issue at all, (cause grub was booting xp fine from what i heard of you, it was an xp issue)
[13:28] <Rabbitbunny> What's the button to un-fullscreen xterm? It's not listed when it's full screen.
[13:28] <kakoonia> Dr_willis: like, if i got some try icons on left screen, they dont show up on the right screen
[13:28] <bouma> kittykitty: but it didnt fix it.. after trying to boot (hd0,0) i got error 12: invalid device requested
[13:28] <Dr_willis> kakoonia,  you dont have somtning cofigured then like I do
[13:28] <kakoonia> tray
[13:28] <Dr_willis> kakoonia,  you can drag windows from one screen to the other?
[13:28] <kittykitty> bouma can you paste bin your menu.lst and fdisk -l output?
[13:28] <kakoonia> Dr_willis: ye i guess.. im trying to figure out what
[13:29] <kakoonia> Dr_willis: ye
[13:29] <kittykitty> i have 15Min before i have to leave, just a heads up
[13:29] <srodden> unop, but when I launch my app, it seems that that it has not.
[13:29] <unop> srodden, whats the exact command you placed in ~/.bashrc ?
[13:29] <FreakyFred> hey guys, could you help me out, I am installing 7.10 and X isn't detecting my monitor.
[13:29] <bouma> kittykitty: no grub was not booting xp fine. xp was booting fine before i installed ubuntu into the new 2nd partition in the empty space after the first partiont with xp
[13:29] <srodden> export SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0
[13:29] <bouma> kittykitty: now xp wont boot at all
[13:29] <kakoonia> Dr_willis : i got nvidia, how did you set it to work, separate x screens?
[13:30] <kittykitty> bouma, do you get to the "windows is now loading" screen?
[13:30] <srodden> unop, I placed it just after the "if not running interactively" statment. Was that bad?
[13:30] <Dr_willis> kakoonia,  i set it up to use one Big screen. :)
[13:30] <kittykitty> and after like 2 seconds it bombs out with a file error saying it can't locate hal.dll ?
[13:30] <bouma> kittykitty: no i dont, i just get a text line and then a halt
[13:30] <Ehlyah> unop_? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62920/
[13:30] <kittykitty> ok your system is faster then mine :P
[13:30] <alexandre> Hello ! I am trying to get my DV working as a webcam. I am following instruction I found... only I got a problem. I can't download "DV4Linux". (http://developer.berlios.de/projects/dv4l/) the site dosn't work from my internet connection. It it's not too much trouble could someone check if they can access it. Thx !
[13:30] <srodden> unop, IE does "running interactively" mean in a terminal?
[13:30] <unop> Ehlyah, what happens when you try and bring up the interface again?
[13:30] <kakoonia> Dr_willis: ok.. im gonna try a few things.. "dont worry" ill keep you updated.
[13:31] <timucin> unop_, thanks. Now I'll try G4L. I think this will solve my problem.
[13:31] <kittykitty> is this on a different machine that you can play with right now bouma?
[13:31] <Dr_willis> kakoonia,  dont worry.. im going to sleep soon. :P
[13:31] <bouma> kittykitty: no this is only one machine that im using now
[13:31] <unop> srodden, i'm not sure what you are referring to .. but this needs to be in the 'interactive' section
[13:31] <kittykitty> oh, well, if you want to see that xp is booting and that it is a partition limitation error with windows xp
[13:31] <t1n0m3n> Any other ideas on how to get real play files to play on 7.10 x64?  I can't seem to get xmms to play real media files
[13:31] <bouma> kittykitty: but it reboots easily enough, just hold the button and <1min later its cyclesd
[13:31] <kittykitty> you can go in and edit the file ... lemme find it
[13:32] <bouma> kittykitty: the menu.lst ?
[13:32] <unop> srodden, and what app needs this env. var?
[13:32] <Ehlyah> unop_: network monitor lets me get to it now
[13:32] <bouma> kittykitty: no, i just used 'e' to change the menu.lst live during the boot. and it didnt help
[13:32] <FritZ_cO> woi
[13:32] <kittykitty> no on your xp partition
[13:32] <srodden> unop, the var stops a bug with mouse operation of XP running under KVM. I am executing KVM with a launcher containing "sudo kvm blah blah"
[13:32] <kittykitty> change your boot.ini file so it doesn't autoboot winxp
[13:32] <dsdsd> hi
[13:33] <kittykitty> just comment out the default line at the bottom
[13:33] <bouma> kittykitty: oh hrm.. wack
[13:33] <bouma> kittykitty: i wonder
[13:33] <kittykitty> then you'll see that the ntldr is loading or not
[13:33] <kittykitty> and you'll see that this is infact a xp limitation
[13:34] <t1n0m3n> ahh, ok, I can play real media files... just not play lists.  So I guess that is good enough.
[13:34] <unop> srodden, the user's env. vars are not exported to a root env. under sudo that way.. you'll need to do this.  sudo sh -c "VAR=foo kvm blah blah"
[13:35] <kittykitty> can you find the boot.ini on your windows partition ?
[13:35] <srodden> unop, you're worth more money :) Thank you.
[13:35] <unop> Ehlyah, so i'm assuming you're ok now?
[13:35] <Ehlyah> unop: still not connecting
[13:36] <Ehlyah> unop: I can get to the interface, but it still won't actually let me connect to the internet
[13:36] <kittykitty> anyways bouma, if you want to fix the problem, you'll have to re-partition or atleast reorganize your partitions better for winblows
[13:37] <didy> OMG
[13:37] <SNuxoll> didy: nani?
[13:37] <kittykitty> i suggest partition magic if you want to retain the info on your hd, i've never had success with linux tools
[13:37] <unop> Ehlyah, ok, if i read your interfaces file right? you have a configuration mismatch, you have the wrong IP address assigned to that interface
[13:37] <bicho> still here no sound on a fresh install
[13:37] <unop> Ehlyah, this one i mean. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62920/
[13:37] <bicho> any idea ?
[13:37] <Unipz> (EE) fglrx(0) Given depth (8) is not supported by fglrx driver (EE) fglrx(0): PreInitVisual failed SetVBEMode failed (EE) fglrx(0) PreInit failed (II) fglrx(0) --- [atiddxPreInit] --- end (II) Unload module "fglrx" (II) UnloadModule: "vgahw" (II) Unloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libvgahw.so (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found
[13:38] <SNuxoll> !paste | Unipz
[13:38] <ubotu> Unipz: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[13:38] <Ehlyah> unop: so how do I get a new one? I didn't assign it manually. It just sort of... popped out of nowhere
[13:38] <unop> Ehlyah, change the line "address 169.254.8.100" to something like "address 192.168.1.10"
[13:38] <srodden> unop: That particular method doesn't seem to be working. Can I add the xport to the .bashrc in /root and have the same effect?
[13:39] <Ehlyah> unop: in the network monitor's interface? (just making sure)
[13:39] <Unipz> http://pastebin.com/m6fb1cfd2
[13:39] <unop> Ehlyah, you can do it there or edit the interfaces file
[13:40] <Pelo> anyone else in eastern north america find their clock one hour ahead ?
[13:40] <Der_GummiBaer> Hey =)
[13:40] <unop> Ehlyah, hmm, sudo doesn't read the root's ~/,bashrc file .. maybe ~/.bash_profile tho, try it out
[13:41] <Der_GummiBaer> Is this also the German Channel?
[13:41] <Pelo> !de | Der_GummiBaer
[13:41] <ubotu> Der_GummiBaer: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:41] <Der_GummiBaer> ahhh, dankeschön =)
[13:41] <mgeorge27> wow what a fuckin channel
[13:42] <mgeorge27> 1255 ^_^
[13:42] <Ehlyah> unop: ~/.bash_profile is an empty file. it doesn't say anything
[13:42] <kittykitty> omg my virgin ears!
[13:42] <unop> Ehlyah, all else failing you can make a script and add these lines / #!/bin/bash  VAR=foo  kvm blah blah  # save the file, make it executable and call it via sudo /path/to/script
[13:42] <mgeorge27> oh please lol
[13:42] <srodden> Does sudo read any such profile documtn?
[13:42] <unop> srodden, sorry, that was for you up there
[13:43] <unop> Ehlyah, sorry, my bad, got you two mixed up
[13:43] <srodden> unop, yeah, spotted it :)
[13:43] <ufita> :x
[13:43] <srodden> unop, you're doing an awesome job, thank you
[13:43] <Ehlyah> unop: right, thought that sounded odd XD 's okay
[13:43] <didy> i've 3 partitions now, xp/vista/data all ntfs. if i install ubuntu... how do i go abt partitioning so unbutu gets space from ONLY data partition and not vista/xp partitions??
[13:43] <unop> Ehlyah, you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces file
[13:44] <kittykitty> well whenever bouma gets back, tell him that he just needs to move his xp partition closer to the begining of his disk, or to a logical disk
[13:44] <Ehlyah> unop: and edit what? It's got the new ip adress in it already
[13:44] <unop> Ehlyah, bring eth0 up again and try pinging both addresses
[13:44] <didy> i've 3 partitions now, xp/vista/data all ntfs. if i install ubuntu... how do i go abt partitioning so unbutu gets space from ONLY data partition and not vista/xp partitions??
[13:44]  * kittykitty idles for 3 hours
[13:45] <zoobox> hello, how long does it normally take for a security vulnerabilitiy to be listed at http://cve.mitre.org/ after it is patched in ubuntu?
[13:46] <didy> i've 3 partitions now, xp/vista/data all ntfs. if i install ubuntu... how do i go abt partitioning so unbutu gets space from ONLY data partition and not vista/xp partitions??
[13:46] <hypn0> didy: you delete data partition, and use free space
[13:46] <b1ch0> sorry, but here again with my audio issue
[13:46] <b1ch0> any tip, or anyone can help ?
[13:47] <didy> i'm not gonna delete that partition, can ubuntu resize it to make space for ubuntu?
[13:47] <zoobox> the rsync patch "Version 2.6.9-5ubuntu1.1 " that ubuntu update thing pushed out have a link to http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2008-1720 but that page isn't existing, how long might it take before it do?
[13:47] <Ehlyah> unop: I type ping and then the adress and then nothing happens. It just sort of locks up doesn't do anything anymore
[13:47] <unop> Ehlyah, ok, press CTRL+C
[13:48] <unop> Ehlyah, and then pastebin the output of this command please.   ifconfig; route -n; cat /etc/network/interfaces
[13:48] <zoobox>  * SECURITY UPDATE: code execution via ACL overflow.  * debian/patches/xattr-security.diff: upstream fixes for ACL/xattr, thanks to Debian.
[13:48] <zoobox>  * References CVE-2008-1720
[13:48] <hypn0> didy: you can manually partition during install, so you can delete is during install
[13:49] <hylinux> hi, the ubuntu 8.04 amd64 version have some issues? why I install some software, it say can't install them, because the depend?
[13:49] <didy> im NOT gonna delete.. just resize.. issit possible
[13:49] <hylinux> just beta version?
[13:50] <unop> srodden, i think this ought to do it.   sudo sh -c "VAR=foo;  kvm blah blah"  # mind the ; there
[13:50] <didy> also how do i check which 32 bit or 64 bit version my cd holds for ubuntu??
[13:50] <hypn0> didy: I don't think you can install ubuntu on ntfs :-/ I think ext3 is recommended
[13:50] <unop> didy, are you booted up into the CD now?
[13:50] <didy> yes
[13:50] <didy> lol
[13:50] <zoobox> the last one there seems to be 1702, and there are a 1703 and 1704 "reserved*, but no 1720 bug, so it is a bit strange that the description for the rsync bugfix links to there, or?
[13:51] <didy> i can't go into windows now
[13:51] <didy> :(
[13:51] <hylinux> didy: you just download that disc have characters like amd...
[13:51] <didy> im using GParted to partition my partitions....
[13:51] <unop> didy, run this command then;  lsb_release -a
[13:51] <Jimbo> Hello
[13:51] <unop> didy, also. uname -a
[13:51] <Jimbo> How do I run a telnet server on ubuntu
[13:51] <unop> Jimbo, you should run ssh instead
[13:51] <unop> Jimbo, telnet is not very secure
[13:51] <didy> i686 - 32bit?
[13:52] <alphakamp> telnet is extremly unsecure
[13:52] <unop> didy, looks that way
[13:52] <kakoonia> Dr_willis: hey.. i dunno wth is wrong with my settings.. but this is what happens when i try to use the "Twin view" in Nvidia-settings, 1) i can see only partial screen on the right monitor(laptop), 2) i can drag windows from one to the  other, 3) background is trashed. 4) no tray on top of the right screen, i got it only on one screen, and so is the awn dock.
[13:52] <Jimbo> unop: It is in local network, but ssh would be also good.
[13:52] <unop> Jimbo, install the openssh-server package and you should have ssh running. to connect to it, run  ssh user@machinename
[13:52] <didy> ok thanks. can anyone help me with the partitions thingy.
[13:53] <L52> hi, someone sucessfully installed jdk 6update5 using "make-jpkg"?
[13:53] <Jimbo> unop: Ok, how do I remove the desktop environment?
[13:53] <unop> Jimbo, even on a local network, ssh is better, it allows you to do much more.
[13:53] <hypn0> didy: you want to make data partition smaller, I think you can do that during install, although i'v never done it
[13:53] <unop> Jimbo, you can just stop the GDM (or KDM is you run KDE) from running.
[13:53] <N3uro5i5> i cant install *.pcf fonts, anyone know the solution?
[13:53] <Jimbo> unop: how?
[13:54] <didy> ok how big do i need for unbutu? i know there are 1 for "/" 1 for "/swap" 1 for "/home"
[13:54] <kakoonia> hey.. im trying to use two screens, 1=Laptop screen, 2=LCD 22" , i dunno wth is wrong with my settings.. but this is what happens when i try to use the "Twin view" in Nvidia-settings, 1) i can see only partial screen on the right monitor(laptop), 2) i can drag windows from one to the  other, 3) background is trashed. 4) no tray on top of the right screen, i got it only on one screen, and so is the awn dock.
[13:54] <unop> Jimbo, sudo update-rc.d stop 1-5 GDM # i think
[13:54] <srodden> gah, now the launcher won't work at all! I love this stuff :)
[13:54] <Ehlyah> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62922/
[13:55] <didy> ok thanks. can anyone help me with the partitions thingy.
[13:55] <didy> ok how big do i need for unbutu? i know there are 1 for "/" 1 for "/swap" 1 for "/home"
[13:55] <didy> LOL
[13:55] <unop> Ehlyah, notice you still have "address 169.254.1.10" in your /etc/network/interfaces file .. that really needs to change
[13:55] <beast> hello
[13:55] <unop> Ehlyah, that needs to change to "address 192.168.1.10"
[13:56] <hypn0> you don't need /home didy, just / and /swap
[13:56] <beast> can anyone tll me a program like FrontPage in Linux
[13:56] <amenoob> nvu
[13:56] <beast> i want to build a website
[13:56] <unop> hypn0, didy -- it;s better to have a /home partition incase you need to reinstall or do something dramatic and save your stuff
[13:56] <Ehlyah> unop: changed it
[13:57] <rinaldi_> hi anyone use the ps3 sixaxis? if so whats the program you use to calibrate it?
[13:57] <kakoonia> hey.. im trying to use two screens, 1=Laptop screen, 2=LCD 22" , i dunno wth is wrong with my settings.. but this is what happens when i try to use the "Twin view" in Nvidia-settings, 1) i can see only partial screen on the right monitor(laptop), 2) i can drag windows from one to the  other, 3) background is trashed. 4) no tray on top of the right screen, i got it only on one screen, and so is the awn dock.
[13:57] <unop> Ehlyah, now. run this.   sudo sh -c "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0"
[13:57] <Jimbo> unop: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/stop: file does not exist
[13:57] <unop> Ehlyah, and then try pinging again.
[13:58] <didy> so what does / hold? ubuntu itself? and home holds which data?
[13:58] <sedra> hello how to activate root under ubuntu?
[13:58] <unop> Jimbo, sudo update-rc.d gdm stop 1-5
[13:58] <unop> !root | sedra
[13:58] <ubotu> sedra: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:58] <unop> sedra, all you need is sudo
[13:59] <sedra> i dont want to enter my pass all the time!
[13:59] <unop> didy, /home holds all your personal stuff, documents, music, settings, etc
[13:59] <beast> hello, can anyone tell me a name of website builder, like we use Frontpage in Windows?
[13:59] <didy> how big is your /home?
[13:59] <ufita> how big should the /swap partition be?
[13:59] <Ehlyah> unop: I tried pinging my gateway adress. nothing.
[13:59] <sriramoman> beast: nvu
[13:59] <jussi01> !info bluefish
[13:59] <ubotu> bluefish (source: bluefish): advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.7-2 (gutsy), package size 1584 kB, installed size 6756 kB
[14:00] <unop> sedra, logging on as root all the time is not recommended, you can be reckless and do serious damage to your system
[14:00] <sedra> unop, i read somewhere that root can be activated but how?
[14:00] <user1> how can i know the exact watts that my pc and my moniter takes? (need to calculate watts to buy a new ups) ?
[14:00] <unop> sedra, if you need to run a command under sudo and not be prompted for your password -- you need to edit the sudoers file. see the sudoers manpage
[14:00] <sedra> what damage linux is secure
[14:01] <unop> sedra, linux is only as secure as you are. if you are insecure, linux is too
[14:01] <SNuxoll> sedra: secure doesn't prevent user error
[14:01] <unop> Ehlyah, are you sure 192.168.1.1 is your router's address?
[14:01] <Peanut> user1: the best way is to buy a cheap power meter that goes between your wall socket and your equipment
[14:02] <srodden> unop, now that's an interesting thing, I have tried uncommenting the "no password for all sudo" and also adding my own login as not requiring a password but niether has resulted in me not getting prompted for a password!
[14:02] <Ehlyah> unop: it's the default gateway adress I get when I ipconfig in cmd.exe on this computer
[14:03] <user1> Peanut hmm.
[14:03] <sriramoman> how many fps should i get in glxgears in default resolution for compiz to run smoothly?
[14:03] <unop_> Ehlyah, can you put to the pastebin the last set of commands i asked you to run please?
[14:03] <kaur> Hi!
[14:03] <Ziky> hi!
[14:03] <unop_> srodden, hmm, something you aren't doing right perhaps .. have you verified the syntax in the sudoers file, you should read the sudoers manpage too
[14:04] <user1> Peanut thers no predefined specs?
[14:04] <user1> Peanut http://www.amazon.com/P3-International-P4400-Electricity-Monitor/dp/B00009MDBU
[14:04] <srodden> I'm experimenting now :)
[14:04] <didy> so "/" "/swap" "/home" all use ext3 right?
[14:04] <user1> Peanut sory typo. powersupply just says AC 230v  and on moniter it says 1.2A
[14:04] <kaur> I just installed apache2 to test some web applications. Am I correct that by default apache runs only locally so I am not exposed to the world?
[14:05] <Ehlyah> unop: looks like I missed your message about sudo sh -c "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0"
[14:05] <Peanut> That's probably the rating of the fuse, and doesn't say much about regular power usage.
[14:05] <Ehlyah> untop: which gives me "etc/resolv.conf: no such file or directory"
[14:06] <hsuh> is there a package with the proggyfonts? (proggytiny..)
[14:07] <rinaldi_> anyone got the sixaxis controller working? I can't get jscalibrator to detect it...
[14:07] <b4l74z4r> why would anyone use grey on black if they can use white on black in the terminal?
[14:07] <kakoonia> hey.. im trying to use two screens, 1=Laptop screen, 2=LCD 22" , i dunno wth is wrong with my settings.. but this is what happens when i try to use the "Twin view" in Nvidia-settings, 1) i can see only partial screen on the right monitor(laptop), 2) i can drag windows from one to the  other, 3) background is trashed. 4) no tray on top of the right screen, i got it only on one screen, and so is the awn dock.
[14:08] <dixon> Does anyone here know how can I solve 2 equations with 2 unknowns in octave - I'm trying to google it out but with no success :\
[14:09] <Peanut> dixon: Some sort of minimax search? Mathematics is hardly on topic for in here though :)
[14:09] <Peanut> dixon: try #octave
[14:09] <Ehlyah> unop: which gives me "etc/resolv.conf: no such file or directory"
[14:10] <hischild> Ehlyah, add an extra / in front. /etc/resolv.conf
[14:10] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all, i have an "D-Link DFE-690TXD 10/100Base, CardBus , PCMCIA " on ubuntu hardy, and i have the following problem when doing dhclient: http://pastebin.com/m6cfd0b36 . It's not caused by hard, please don't tell me to go to the devel channel. It works fine with my home router, but it does the previously linked thing with another router, that is a noname thing. The question is, how can i config/debug/prepare it to get it work... Thanks!:)
[14:11] <hischild> !hardy | MetaMorfoziS
[14:11] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:11] <MetaMorfoziS> hischild > can you read, idiot?
[14:11] <Jimbo> unop: update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/gdm: file does not exist
[14:11] <Ehlyah> hischild: the command was sudo sh -c "ifdown eth0; ifup eth0" so I'm not sure where to put the / >>;;
[14:12] <hischild> MetaMorfoziS, i can read just fine. You're running hardy thus you should go to the correct channel.
[14:12] <hischild> !atitude | MetaMorfoziS
[14:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atitude - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:12] <rinaldi_> ﻿hi, im trying to get the ps3 sixaxis working through usb. I tried this: http://ps3.jim.sh/sixaxis/usb/ and didn't apply the patch it told me becuase my kernel is higher than 2.6.21. when i do jstest --normal /dev/input/js1 I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62923/ but when I do jscal it tells me it's a bad address
[14:12] <hischild> !patience | MetaMorfoziS
[14:12] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:13] <MetaMorfoziS> hischild > stop trolling.
[14:13] <Nitro> tech question: what is the name of the log file that is written to upon shutdown / attempt to log out of gnome?
[14:13] <hischild> MetaMorfoziS, i'm not trolling, You want support? then go to the correct channel.
[14:13] <Jimbo> help me to stop/remove the desktop environment
[14:13] <Nitro> Why would you remove the desktop environment Jimbo?
[14:13] <MetaMorfoziS> hischild > it's not a hardy related problem, i don't want to take their time with it
[14:13] <Jimbo> I need to free up resources
[14:14] <MetaMorfoziS> the hardware works fine, i just need to adjust it.
[14:14] <Nitro> Jimbo: What are you going to use the computer to?
[14:14] <Nitro> surfing?
[14:14] <unop_> Jimbo, ls -l /etc/init.d/?dm # what does this return?
[14:14] <Nitro> e-mail?
[14:14] <hischild> MetaMorfoziS, if the hardware is fine, it's a software related problem. If it's a software related problem it's related to hardy. Please join the correct channel.
[14:14] <unop_> Ehlyah, is that what you get then you try and bring eth0 up?
[14:14] <MetaMorfoziS> read again.
[14:15] <MetaMorfoziS> No, i'm ignore you, idiot:)
[14:15] <Ehlyah> unop_: yeah, ifdown; ifup just gets me no such file or directory
[14:15] <hischild> MetaMorfoziS, i have. You are running hardy. Don't ask here, as support on this channel is Gutsy only.
[14:15] <theunixgeek> The clipboard bug REALLY needs to be fixed.
[14:15] <unop_> Ehlyah, hmm very very strange. what does this give you?  ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[14:17] <blahblahx> how do i get a suspend option in the quit menu ?
[14:17] <b4l74z4r> when you assign commandline options behind a given commando, does it matter in which order you assign them?
[14:17] <Jimbo> unop: -rwxr-xr-x l root 3999 2007-04-11 08:50 /etc/init.d/kdm
[14:17] <Ehlyah> unop_: no such file or directory
[14:17] <unop_> b4l74z4r, that really depends on the command in question
[14:17] <unop_> Jimbo, sudo update-rc.d kdm stop 1-5
[14:18] <Erosion> How can I install GLIB on ubuntu?
[14:18] <Peanut> Ehlyah: try /sbin/ifup and /sbin/ifdown instead?
[14:18] <Ehlyah> unop_: seems it's resolvconf rather than resolv.conf
[14:18] <unop_> Ehlyah, hmm, your system's quite messed up :)
[14:18] <unop_> Ehlyah, run this.. sudo apt-get install --reinstall resolvconf
[14:18] <Jimbo> error: expected NN after stop
[14:19] <Jimbo> unop_: error: expected NN after stop
[14:19] <dav7> channel staffers: you might notice "dav7_" joining/parting every so often - it's a bot I'm working on, that needs a large channel list in order to work - it's a relay with a particularly original (in my estimation) "forward" method that requires a large amount of nicks to be tested properly.
[14:19] <shekk> j football
[14:19] <shekk> hmm
[14:19] <shekk> oooops
[14:19] <blahblahx> anyone?
[14:19] <b4l74z4r> what do you do when you are finished reading a manual in the terminal, how do you get back the prompt?
[14:19] <unop_> Jimbo, bah, i suck at this command :)  sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove
[14:19] <shekk> ctrl+c or q
[14:20] <dav7> b4l74z4r: depends on the pager, usually... what shekk said
[14:20] <unop_> b4l74z4r, q
[14:20] <napsy_> does awt use regex for searching patterns?
[14:20] <Erosion> How can I install GLIB on ubuntu?
[14:20] <napsy_> *awk
[14:20] <b4l74z4r> ok, thanks
[14:20] <jussi01> dav7: could you please join #ubuntu-ops ?
[14:20] <Okkef> did anyone notice BerliOS is down? I can't download Cairo Dock anywhere :(
[14:20] <dav7> jussi01: I will, thankyou.
[14:20] <unop_> napsy_, i think it does .. but do ask in #awk
[14:20] <blahblahx> Erosion: yeah questions dont really get answered here unless they are easy
[14:20] <Ehlyah> unop_: "package resolvconf is not available, but is referred to by another package.  This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. E: Package resolvconf has no installation candidate"
[14:20] <Erosion> lol
[14:20] <Farnaby> Anybody have much expierience with dual cores + Ubuntu 7.10?
[14:20] <Totem> Is there a way to have gedit number the lines?
[14:20] <hischild> blahblahx, i disagree. I spend 10 hours here fixing my problem and have been helped all the way through
[14:20] <hischild> Farnaby, what's up?
[14:21] <Erosion> LjL: Know how I could install GLIB?
[14:21] <Totem> or show the line numbers?
[14:21] <LjL> Ehlyah: want to bet there's something missing in your sources.list?
[14:21] <Peanut> Farnaby: works for me
[14:21] <shekk> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get install glib
[14:21] <shekk> ?
[14:21] <LjL> Erosion: sudo apt-get install grub
[14:21] <Farnaby> hischild, installed 7.10 on monday and it seems that both ores are 100% all of the time
[14:21] <bazzawill> I have used ubuntu 7.10 and dual core amd no probs
[14:21] <blahblahx> hischild: hmm i guess ive gotten a tricky question answered here too. it only took 3 weeks of asking on three channels every day though
[14:21] <Farnaby> Makes things sluggish
[14:21] <blahblahx> hischild: to even get the beginning of an answer
[14:21] <theunixgeek> any ncurses programmers here?
[14:21] <Erosion> LjL: It says GRUB is already the latest version.
[14:21] <unop_> Ehlyah, ok, let's deal with this once you have your network up.. run this.  sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf
[14:21] <Totem> Can I have gedit who line numbers?
[14:21] <hischild> blahblahx, well the final solution was easy
[14:21] <Totem> *show
[14:21] <unop_> Ehlyah, and then bring eth0 up again.. try pinging
[14:21] <hischild> blahblahx, just took me 10 hours to get there, with a dozen helpers
[14:22] <blahblahx> hischild: nice :)
[14:22] <hischild> Farnaby, can you see what process is using that cpu power?
[14:22] <Shepherd> Does anyone know of a program that I can use to manage & store data about VNC, RDP, and other remote desktop protocols?
[14:22] <LjL> Erosion: then it probably is. in fact, grub is installed by default on ubuntu. what happened?
[14:22] <Ehlyah> unop_: I'll make that resolvconf without the . ? since I do have that?
[14:22] <Totem> hello???
[14:22] <unop_> Ehlyah, no, the . is critical
[14:22] <Peanut> Farnaby: any idea what's keeping those cores so busy? Mine (dual core E8400@3GHz) works fine indeed and is quite fast
[14:22] <Totem> nvm, I found it
[14:22] <Erosion> LjL: I'm trying to install Conspire, but it's saying it can't find the path of GLIB, is it installed? So I wondered.
[14:22] <Erosion> LjL: Any ideas?
[14:22] <unop_> Ehlyah, there's a difference in the two files
[14:22] <b1ch0> solved !!!
[14:23] <Farnaby> suddenly its looking like BTNX might be whats causing the issue
[14:23] <unop_> Shepherd, iirc, tsclient handles all of them and it's installed by default
[14:23] <Shepherd> tsclient ?
[14:23] <unop_> !info tsclient | Shepherd
[14:23] <Slider> my delete button doesnt work as delete in my MacBookPro, can anyone help ?
[14:23] <ubotu> shepherd: tsclient (source: tsclient): front-end for viewing of remote desktops in GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.148-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 294 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[14:23] <Shepherd> Terminal Server client ?
[14:23] <Shepherd> ah
[14:24] <mandiri> HI
[14:24] <Shepherd> thanks
[14:24] <Shepherd> ah no that's not what I ment
[14:24] <blahblahx> does the package suspend2-ui add the suspend functionality to the gnome quit menu
[14:24] <unop_> Shepherd, what did you mean then?
[14:24] <Ehlyah> unop_: okay, did it with the ., no problem, sudo sh ifdown ifup, no problem, pinging ended with ctrl+c and nothing
[14:24] <Farnaby> anybody know how to turn BTNX off is the next question I guess
[14:24] <unop_> Ehlyah, so ping isn't working fine.
[14:25] <Ehlyah> unop_: I'd say it isn't
[14:25] <unop_> Ehlyah, *phew*  can i have that pastebin thing again
[14:25] <unop_> ?
[14:25] <Shepherd> I mean a program which manages accounts.. It's a pain to connect to every remote desktop with tsclient, I need a program which has something like a drop down menu of many clients open at the same time. If such a program exists
[14:25] <Ehlyah> unop_: of what?
[14:25] <LjL> Erosion, i don't know what conspire is
[14:25] <Erosion> An IRC Client
[14:25] <earthling> having following problem in mplayer; pasted here --http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62924/
[14:26] <unop_> Ehlyah, and then pastebin the output of this command please.   ifconfig; route -n; cat /etc/network/interfaces
[14:26] <unop_> Ehlyah, this one
[14:26] <CriSiS> hola hola
[14:26] <CriSiS> has anyone installed ubuntu ppc on an external hdd?
[14:26] <Siph0n> hey.... where does gutsy keep the default pin to use for bluetooth? i thought it was /etc/bluetooth/pin , but i dont see that file there
[14:27] <earthling> anyone?
[14:27] <Slider> my delete button doesnt work as delete in my MacBookPro, can anyone help ?
[14:27] <earthling> please
[14:27] <shekk> lol
[14:27] <unop_> Shepherd, not sure - but if you can script, you should be able to cook something up with rdesktop
[14:27] <mbrandt> Slider you may need to remap the button
[14:27] <mbrandt> through the keyboard manager
[14:28] <Shepherd> unop_ I need a program which manages many connections at once, not one
[14:28] <Slider> mbrandt, how ?
[14:28] <Shepherd> oh
[14:28] <mbrandt> slider, hang on
[14:28] <Shepherd> didn't see your responce.. alright, thanks. I'll keep looking for now :P
[14:28] <unop_> Shepherd, tsclient can handle many connections (albeit through many windows) .. i must be missing something
[14:28] <Shepherd> I know it can handle them, but I have to open a new one for each connection, and I could have up to 200 open at the same time
[14:29] <Shepherd> its very disorganized
[14:29] <Shepherd> at that point
[14:29] <mbrandt> Slider, System-->Preferences-->keyboard
[14:29] <unop_> Shepherd, :o 200? my lord
[14:29] <Shepherd> Yea.. :(
[14:29] <Farnaby> odd... after uninstalling BTNX its still showing in TOP
[14:29] <Ehlyah> unop_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62925/
[14:29] <Shepherd> I was imagining something like, a side menu with all the host names / ips,
[14:29] <unop_> Shepherd, forget i even said rdesktop because even that works like tsclient .. one window per desktop
[14:30] <cow_2001> where do i get the config file of the default ubuntu kernel?
[14:30] <Shepherd> oh
[14:30] <Peanut> Farnaby: just kill it
[14:30] <J-Unit> is it possible to have a diff desktop wallpaper on each workspace?
[14:30] <Peanut> J-Unit: seconded, I would like that very much too!
[14:30] <J-Unit> like to force it to change wallpaper on a certtain workspace
[14:30] <unop_> Shepherd, not sure something like that even exists .. although you could program something like that again, with rdesktop and it's libraries - but that's probably not what you are looking to hear
[14:31] <J-Unit> Peanut, im glad im not alone :)
[14:31] <J-Unit> Peanut, well not cuz ur sufering
[14:31] <J-Unit> Peanut, lol
[14:31] <jrib> J-Unit, Peanut: if using effects, you can set that in cccsm.  If using metacity, google for wallpapoz
[14:31] <Peanut> J-Unit: It works on SUSE-10.1 which we have at work, but that's based on KDE I believe.
[14:31] <Shepherd> Not really, but if that's what it comes to, I don't think it will be terribly complicated
[14:31] <jrib> J-Unit, Peanut: erm, ccsm not cccsm
[14:31] <unop_> Ehlyah, you've made a mistake with this command.  route -n  # can you include that in another paste please
[14:31] <unop_> Ehlyah, spaces count :)
[14:32] <Peanut> jrib: "Community Climate System Model" ? :-)
[14:32] <J-Unit> jrib, wait wat do i look for wallpapoz or ccsm?
[14:32] <Shepherd> J-unit I'd do that simply to make the wall papers say 1, 2, 3, 4 on there respective desktops :P
[14:32] <jrib> J-Unit: do you have effects enabled?
[14:32] <Ehlyah> unop_: it's... a common fact that I can't type
[14:32] <jrib> Peanut: close: compizconfig-settings-manager :)
[14:32] <J-Unit> jrib, i can all jellow effects etc but i like normal better (no effects) but i have a capable pc if thats wat ur asking
[14:32] <Peanut> Ah right, that's the 4th hit *grin*
[14:32] <Jimbo> Is it possible to disable some autostart programs/services in Ubuntu?
[14:33] <amenado> Jimbo-> yes
[14:33] <jrib> J-Unit: if they are on, you can use ccsm.  If they are not and you are using metacity as your window manager, then you can use wallpapoz
[14:33] <unop_> Ehlyah, no worries, typo's happen all the time even with people who can type :)
[14:33] <Jimbo> How?
[14:33] <J-Unit> Jimbo, maybe ubuntu tweak does that
[14:33] <amenado> Jimbo-> which particular service?
[14:33] <unop_> Jimbo, did the last command i give you work?
[14:34] <Peanut> Ok, next stupid question: how do I know if I'm running compiz or metacity?
[14:34] <Jimbo> amenado: I wanna learn which I don't need and disable them to free up resources
[14:34] <jrib> Peanut: system -> preferences -> visual effects
[14:34] <unop_> !bum
[14:34] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[14:34] <Jimbo> unop_: Yep, thanks a bunch.
[14:34] <user1>  theres no software to measure watts consumed by me computer?
[14:34] <unop_> Jimbo, see the output of ubotu up there ^^
[14:34] <Ehlyah> unop_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62926/
[14:35] <J-Unit> jrib, k, thx, just one last question, wenever/if ever i choose to enable effects, will wallpapoz still work?
[14:35] <Shepherd> unop_ I found something called KDE Remote Desktop Manager but it doesn't run on amd64 D:
[14:35] <jrib> J-Unit: I think the author wanted it to at one point, but I've never tried
[14:35] <Peanut> jrib: I don't have that, I guess that means I'm running metacity? I do have all kinds of funky desktop effects (wobbly windows when they move e.g.)
[14:35] <Jimbo> unop_: how do I use update-rc.d? is that a command?
[14:35] <amenado> Jimbo-> may I suggest reading a good linux ubuntu book or a linux book in general?  that way you would learn what you would consider needed, essential, or extra, and undernstand the effects of turning it off or on
[14:36] <unop_> amenado, maybe you can figure out why this still doesn't work, Ehlyah can't ping gateway, here's output of ifconfig, route -n -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62926/
[14:36] <unop_> Jimbo, update-rc.d is a command yes .. see it's manpage on how to use it
[14:36] <Peanut> Hmm.. no,
[14:36] <J-Unit> jrib, k, thx anyway
[14:36] <Peanut> Hmm.. no, 'ps' says I'm running compiz, thought I was.
[14:36] <J-Unit> jrib, k, thx, anyway*
[14:37] <robbb> hi, im trying to create a page in the ubuntu wiki but it gives me "A problem occurred in a Python script."
[14:37] <Peanut> Installing compizconfig-settings-manager now, thanks!
[14:38] <Toznoshio> I need to install some software on a Gutsy box which is not connected to the Internet. How can I obtain direct download links to the various .deb files in the repositories?
[14:38] <amenado> Ehlyah  here  netmask 255.255.255. and try to add broadcast 192.168.1.255 ...then if you can not ping still, id check your cat 5 cables or see if any blinking light indicators
[14:39] <Hoxzer> Toznoshio: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[14:39] <Jimbo> OK, where do I get ssh server, doesn't Ubuntu have it installed?
[14:39] <beast> !search Trinians
[14:39] <ubotu> Found:
[14:39] <unop_> Ehlyah, also you might not have the right netmask for your interface .. it could be set differently
[14:39] <jrib> !ssh > Jimbo (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:39] <amenado> Toznoshio-> do you have an intermediate computer to download those to?
[14:39] <Toznoshio> Hoxzer: thanks for the tip, I'll try that
[14:39] <Ehlyah> unop_ amenado: subnet mask? I just copied it from this computer since it's on the same network
[14:40] <Toznoshio> amenado: Yes, I will be moving the deb files on a USB stick
[14:40] <Siph0n> in my /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf file i see a Pin Helper line that says , " pin_helper /usr/bin/cw_pin.pl; " , but that cw_pin.pl file doesnt exist.... any ideas?
[14:40] <unop_> Ehlyah, how hard would it be for you to get back into windows at this point?
[14:40] <dmsuperman_> so i've got a domain pointing to afraid.org dns servers, and the domain isn't working right now, but going to my ip does. anybody know how i can test if it's the dns or if it's godaddy?
[14:40] <amenado> Toznoshio-> okay
[14:40] <W8TAH> morning folks -- how do ii get a particulalar netowrk profile to be the default one in the network manager?
[14:40] <amenado> Ehlyah-> did you do the other checks I suggested?
[14:41] <Ehlyah> unop_: windows is just a reboot away
[14:41] <unop_> Ehlyah, it'd be easier if you could gather the right ip address, subnet mask and gateway from windows .. and also make note of the gateways MAC address via the "arp -a" command
[14:41] <Ehlyah> amenado: I'm not sure what you mean by broadcast? Should I change my ip to that?
[14:41] <cvd-pr> Can i change my username and the /home name without any problem?
[14:41] <Jimbo> How do I get installers instead of apt-get?
[14:41] <unop_> Ehlyah, ok, do that then, boot into windows and make note of these details, we could try again with them at hand
[14:42] <amenado> Ehlyah-> in the interfaces file you put an entry  broadcast 192.168.1.255
[14:42] <unop_> !hostname > cvd-pr  ( see private message from ubotu )
[14:42] <unop_> cvd-pr, there should be no problem if you do it right
[14:42] <Gustavo> hi, i need a tip, anyone can help me?
[14:43] <amenado> Ehlyah-> and is your 192.168.1.1  router interface up and running also? are you sure its ip adress is really 192.168.1.1 ?
[14:43] <rinaldi_> ﻿hi, im trying to get the ps3 sixaxis working through usb. I tried this: http://ps3.jim.sh/sixaxis/usb/ and didn't apply the patch it told me becuase my kernel is higher than 2.6.21. when i do jstest --normal /dev/input/js1 I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62923/ but when I do jscal it tells me it's a bad address
[14:43] <amenado> Jimbo-> man dpkg
[14:44] <Ehlyah> amenado: 192.168.1.1 is the default gteway adress an ipconfig got me on this computer
[14:44] <rinaldi_> anyone got the sixaxis working?
[14:44] <amenado> Gustavo-> state the problem, and lets see if we have a suggestion
[14:44] <Jimbo> amenado: can I do this from a windows machine?
[14:44] <J-Unit> jrib, the site says it works on beryl/compiz (latest release)
[14:44] <jrib> Jimbo: can you rephrase your question?  What do you mean?
[14:44] <Ehlyah> amenado: trying to ping got me "network is unreachable"
[14:44] <amenado> Ehlyah-> am coming in late to the picture, can you summarize what you have a host? how are things inter-connected?
[14:45] <Jimbo> I want to download the program for Ubuntu on a windows machine and then install it on Ubuntu
[14:45] <Peanut> jrib: desktop cube + keyboard repeat = dizzy peanut *grin*
[14:45] <amenado> Jimbo-> sort of yes.. open your browser, then look for  man dpkg or ubuntu dpkg install
[14:45] <Gustavo> i'm buying a notebook, but note sure if i'd buy a core duo or core2duo... (coreDuo is so cheape)r
[14:45] <hischild> Jimbo, just save the file to a known location on your windows partition. Then you can navigate to it on ubuntu.
[14:46] <Ehlyah> amenado: I've got a cable hooking my desktop up to the routermodem. that's pretty much it
[14:46] <J-Unit> wallpapoz-0.4.1.tar.bz2     how do i make this a .deb? how do i compile basically?
[14:46] <Jimbo> hischild: what file?
[14:46] <jrib> Jimbo: because your ubuntu has no internet?
[14:46] <Jimbo> jrib: Yes
[14:46] <amenado> Ehlyah-> and this the same computer is dual boot? and same cat 5 cable you used for connections?
[14:46] <jrib> Jimbo: double click on it and read the INSTALL or README file inside
[14:47] <unop_> J-Unit, look into making a debian package
[14:47] <jrib> J-Unit: double click on it and read the INSTALL or README file inside
[14:47] <Jimbo> jrib: double click on what?
[14:47] <hischild> Jimbo, whatever file you wanted to install that you downloaded on windows.
[14:47] <Ehlyah> amenado: yes, it's a dual boot. the vista part of it has wireless, though
[14:47] <jrib> Jimbo: wrong name, sorry.
[14:47] <Jimbo> hischild: I didn't download
[14:47] <unop_> Ehlyah, is eth0 a wireless interface?
[14:47] <Ehlyah> unop_: no
[14:47] <ganteng_abis_man> what
[14:47] <hypn0> Jimbo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[14:48] <dmsuperman_> does anybody know of a free reliable dns service? all i want is to point my domain to my computer
[14:48] <amenado> Ehlyah-> thats the thing, im not getting a full picture of what you have and what connections you are using in vista...please elaborate
[14:48] <unop_> Ehlyah, so how does vista have a wireless connection?
[14:48] <hischild> Jimbo, >I want to download the program for Ubuntu on a windows machine and then install it on Ubuntu< you can download those files just fine on windows.
[14:49] <unop_> dmsuperman, i'd recommend zoneedit
[14:49] <didy> if i abort gparted resizing the partition now, will anything go wrong??
[14:49] <Gustavo> amenado: i'm buying a notebook, but not sure if i'd buy a core duo or core2duo... (coreDuo is so cheaper). i use basic sources, like ubuntu  for internet and office
[14:49] <Jimbo> what is difference between openssh-server-udeb and Package openssh-server?
[14:49] <dmsuperman_> unop_ alright. i tried them, and i don't remember why i didn't stick but i'll try again :D
[14:49] <amenado> Gustavo-> are you sure you want to spend that much for that purpose? even an older laptop would suffice I believe for your needs.. buy what you may consider affordable
[14:50] <unop_> dmsuperman, there are a few others, but zonedit has always been easy to work with
[14:50] <jrib> Jimbo: only one exists?  Where are you finding this -udeb?
[14:50] <Ehlyah> amenado, unop_: we've got a modemrouter set up, WEP encryption, vista connects to it no problem (also, rebooting to that for a minute now). I'm not sure what you need to know. I spent all of yesterday trying to get ubuntu to accept a wireless connection, but even though I eventually got it to accept an access point, it still wouldn't get an IP adress and refused to connect, no matter what
[14:50] <jrib> Jimbo: I'd use a modification of: http://www.batmat.net/apt-offline/ch3.html
[14:50] <Jimbo> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openssh-server&searchon=names&suite=gutsy&section=all
[14:51] <Gustavo> amenado: yes, i think you are right. core2duo is R$1,899 and core duo R$1,424 and a free bag (brazilian courrency)
[14:51] <jrib> Jimbo: "This package provides the sshd server for use in debian-installer"
[14:51] <amenado> Ehlyah-> okay, I wanted to know, when you are using vista, how are you connected to the modemrouter? via wifi (wireless) or cat 5 cable (ethernet) ?
[14:51] <unop_> Ehlyah, ok while you are in windows, can you verify that the wired connection works ok,  disable the wireless interface while you test it out
[14:52] <Ehlyah> amenado: wifi
[14:52] <Ehlyah> unop_ will do
[14:52] <J-Unit> jrib, the readme instructions are not helping
[14:52] <Jimbo> what is difference between openssh-server-udeb and openssh-server?
[14:52] <packagedeliverer> hi, like many I have a problem with an unsupported wireless chipset in ubuntu... has anyone ever gotten that to work on a fujitsu desktop?
[14:52] <jrib> J-Unit: pastebin them and tell me the first line that does not make sense
[14:52] <jrib> !paste > j-unit (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:52] <GIn> packagedeliverer: have you tried with Ndiswrapper already?
[14:53] <jrib> !wifi > packagedeliverer (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:53] <GIn> !wifi > gin
[14:53] <amenado> Gustavo-> i have a brazilian friend, no wonder when he bought a laptop here for 750 dolares is cheap he thinks and I thought was expensive , he sent it home to brazilia..
[14:53] <J-Unit> jrib, its not sense but its always giving problems
[14:53] <unop_> packagedeliverer, are you sure your card isn't listed here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[14:54] <jrib> J-Unit: then pastebin what you did and the resulting problems
[14:54] <packagedeliverer> yes, I checked unop_
[14:54] <packagedeliverer> not there
[14:54] <J-Unit> jrib, k, ill redo the things
[14:54] <Seveas> packagedeliverer, which chipset?
[14:54] <packagedeliverer> "CONNECT2AIR WLAN E-5400 USB D1700"
[14:55] <packagedeliverer> a usb device...
[14:55] <packagedeliverer> so far worse
[14:55] <Seveas> packagedeliverer, that's a device model, not a chipset
[14:55] <packagedeliverer> Ok, I'll have to google it then
[14:56] <J-Unit> jrib, now i did it more carefully using my logic and not exactly wat it said (i dont no if that makes sense to u) and i got the dependencies problem
[14:56] <jrib> J-Unit: you need to pastebin what is happening for me to understand
[14:56] <J-Unit> jrib, o ya lol, k wait
[14:56] <GIn> Seveas: does lsusb | grep Network tell you the chipset?
[14:57] <Seveas> GIn, not sure in case of usb. lspci does for pci devices, but usb...
[14:57] <J-Unit> jrib, http://pastebin.com/d5aa45a4e
[14:57] <bullgard4> English help wanted. Is there a verb 'to regex', such as in the sentence "I do regex for the file extensions..."?  What does it mean?
[14:57] <jrib> J-Unit: install the python-imaging package
[14:58] <J-Unit> jrib, synaptic?
[14:58] <jrib> J-Unit: yep
[14:58] <jrib> bullgard4: this channel is not for english help
[14:58] <J-Unit> jrib, o shit and then i redo it those commands and its all good??
[14:58] <kingkong> hello
[14:58] <J-Unit> shoot*
[14:58] <Gustavo> amenado: where?usa? there is cheaper, my cousin live there, she could ship one to me, but there is no warranty out USA. i prefer spend more and have warranty. R$1424 is like US$850
[14:58] <J-Unit> lol i forgot no swearing here
[14:58] <jrib> J-Unit: should be
[14:58] <kingkong> anyone installed ubuntu on ASUS R2 ?
[14:58] <Seveas> bullgard4, in that line it means search or match... but this is an ubuntu channel, not a help-with-english channel
[14:59] <bullgard4> Seveas: Please note that I am asking here because I am an Ubuntu user.
[15:00] <ikonia> so ?
[15:00] <ikonia> the question is nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:00] <GIn> bullgard4: those questions belong to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:00] <J-Unit> jrib, ~18 mb, itll take a wile on my dial-up connection...anyway thx things should be good for me now :)
[15:00] <bullgard4> GIn: They don't.
[15:00] <ikonia> why argue
[15:01] <Jimbo> bullgard4: regex is regula expressions, google
[15:01] <ikonia> you'll get a better response in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:01] <Jimbo> *regular
[15:01] <GIn> bullgard4: this is a Ubuntu support channel not an english supper channel ;)
[15:02] <amenado> Gustavo yes in USA, btw paying more than 25% for warranty (I call it insurance) is very expensive.  for example, pc sold for 400 dolares, they want 125 for warranty..very expensive
[15:02] <ikonia> !offtopic > amenado
[15:03] <amenado> no problem, its  a slow morning anyways  <wink>
[15:03] <Jimbo> I installed open-ssh server, is it already running?
[15:03] <ikonia> Jimbo: it executes start up after install
[15:03] <Seveas> Jimbo, yes
[15:03] <ikonia> Jimbo: ssh localhost will test it
[15:03] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me if the commands to get conky showing mounted cdrom/floppy/flash drives is the same as the HD commands and will it show automatically those devices when they are mounted and umounted
[15:03] <didy> OMG so long!!!!
[15:04] <Jimbo> it says connection refused
[15:04] <ikonia> Jimbo: ps -ef | grep ssh
[15:04] <sYn_0n3> bom dia!!!
[15:04] <Jimbo> Do I have to restart?
[15:04] <ikonia> Jimbo: does that return anything
[15:04] <ikonia> Jimbo: no
[15:04] <Seveas> hello sYn_0n3
[15:05]  * dmsuperman_ is now listening to: Metallica - To Live is to Die - \m/
[15:05] <sYn_0n3> i have a question maybe you guys can help me out. i recently installed enlightenment e17 via cvs now when i do synaptic updates it crashes
[15:05] <unop__> dmsuperman, err, no spam please.
[15:05] <ikonia> dmsuperman_irssi: can you please disable that plugin
[15:05] <sYn_0n3> sayin i have to do sudo dpkg --configure -a..i do that but it just times out..how can i correct this
[15:05] <Gustavo> amenado: in portuguese we use a character you don't... Ç ... so in your keyboard doesn't have that type
[15:05] <ikonia> sYn_0n3: depends what's being updated
[15:05] <Jimbo> ikonia: How do I know it is running>
[15:05] <sYn_0n3> the enlightenment cvs
[15:06] <ikonia> sYn_0n3: E17 is still in development so moving to version $X of a dependency could break it
[15:06] <ikonia> Jimbo: did "ps -ef | grep ssh" bring any response ?
[15:06] <Jimbo> ikonia: Yes it does
[15:06] <ikonia> Jimbo: can you show me the output
[15:06] <Jimbo> enver     5447  5403  0 17:02 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus                                                              -launch --exit-with-session x-session-manager
[15:06] <Jimbo> enver     6597  6579  0 18:05 pts/1    00:00:00 grep ssh
[15:06] <sYn_0n3> ikonia it E still works its just trying to update the cvs and i believe the cvs server is down because it keeps timing out and never completes
[15:06] <ikonia> Jimbo: neither of them are ssh
[15:07] <Jimbo> so?
[15:07] <ikonia> sYn_0n3: ok, so what do you want #ubuntu to do
[15:07] <Seveas> Jimbo, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[15:07] <kingkong> i need help... :(
[15:07] <ikonia> Jimbo: sudo
[15:07] <ikonia> never mind
[15:07] <Ehlyah> unop_: seem to be having some trouble setting up a wired connection in vista too, but I do have my ip, subnet mask, gateway adress and gateway MAC
[15:07] <ikonia> Seveas: got there first
[15:07] <FloodBot2> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:07] <sYn_0n3> how can i stop the cvs update and do my regular synaptic updates
[15:07] <Jimbo> ikonia: command not found
[15:07] <ikonia> sYn_0n3: cvs is nothing to do with synaptic
[15:07] <ikonia> Jimbo: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[15:07] <Seveas> (ikonia: you can install cvs with synaptic :))
[15:08] <sYn_0n3> my repository is add to my sources and it updates the cvs via synaptic
[15:08] <ikonia> Seveas: yes, but he said the cvs update is failing
[15:08] <Jimbo> ikonia: I installed through a deb package
[15:08] <DarrenCB9> Hi, I'm having trouble with ubuntu-server, after I reboot the memory usage steadly goes up and up but when I look at the list of processes nothing seems to be consuming large amounts of memory, can anyone suggest how I might diagnose this problem?
[15:08] <unop__> Ehlyah, all i can think of is that the router has some resrictions on allowing wired connections .. maybe something needs to be enabled .. also check MAC address restrictions
[15:08] <Seveas> ikonia, I know, was just joking
[15:08] <ikonia> Seveas: ahh
[15:08] <kingkong> i just erased ubuntu partition but vista doesn t start again... how can i do ? (GRUB error ...) Please...
[15:08] <ikonia> DarrenCB9: how do you know the memory use is going up
[15:08] <jrib> Jimbo: so what does 'apt-cache policy openssh-server' return?
[15:08] <ikonia> kingkong: you need to put the winows boot loader back on
[15:08] <kingkong> how
[15:08] <duffbeer> :)  hey folks ... i just installed naother ubuntu 7.10 box ... new hardware ... for some reason i can't see videos on youtube, etc ... the browser offered several choices to install a plugin that will work, i picked the first one (the default one) and it didn't fix the problem, and now i don't know how to get back to that menu where i can install another plugin. ideas? :)
[15:08] <Seveas> kingkong, boot from a vista rescue cd (probably the install cd) and let it reinstall the bootloader
[15:09] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me if the commands to get conky showing mounted cdrom/floppy/flash drives is the same as the HD commands and will it show automatically those devices when they are mounted and umounted?
[15:09] <kingkong> it is possible without install vista again ?
[15:09] <Jimbo> jrib: openssh-server:
[15:09] <Jimbo>   Installed: 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.2
[15:09] <Jimbo>   Candidate: 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.2
[15:09] <Jimbo>   Version table:
[15:09] <Jimbo>  *** 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.2 0
[15:09] <Jimbo>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[15:09] <Gustavo> amenado: well, thanx for the tip. i g2g now. work is calling me! good morning
[15:09] <FloodBot2> Jimbo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:09] <ikonia> kingkong: boot from a windows cd , use repair mode and use the fixboot option
[15:09] <unop__> Ehlyah, there's little point in trying to connect ubuntu up .. if this isnt sorted out first .. also, are you sure that you are using the right type of ethernet cable there, it's not a cross-over cable is it?
[15:09] <kingkong> ok ty i try immediatly ;)
[15:09] <unop__> Jimbo, can you use a pastebin please .. no pasting in the room
[15:09] <another_life> hi, i would like to use vnc, i have installed both vnc server and viewer but i saw that there are different versions... which one should I install ?
[15:10] <Seveas> another_life, ubuntu has a vnc client and server installed by default
[15:10] <another_life> where ?!
[15:10] <DarrenCB9> ikonia, the memory in use as reported by top and free increases close to my max memory but after that no swap is used.
[15:10] <Seveas> system -> preferences -> remote desktop and applications -> internet -> remote desktop
[15:10] <another_life> i installed it manually i swear
[15:10] <another_life> oooh
[15:10] <Jimbo> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62931/
[15:10] <ikonia> DarrenCB9: that could be a good thing depending on how the kernel is managing memory
[15:10] <kimo> j/ #linuxac
[15:11] <Seveas> DarrenCB9, that's probably just the file cache then
[15:11] <another_life> well... i would like sth that i could use even if the other person doesnt have ubuntu...
[15:11] <Seveas> DarrenCB9, the kernel caches recently used files in memory, it'll delete them from memory when it's needed for other things
[15:11] <Seveas> that's better than having heaps of unused memory :)
[15:12] <Ehlyah> unop_: I'm not sure what kind of cable it is, but we have succesfully used it to plug things into the router before (xbox 360, usually)
[15:12] <user1>  which app gives me complete info about cput. like cpuz on windows does?
[15:12] <dmsuperman_> how can i list all the files in a directory from the commandline, even hidden files?
[15:12] <Stroganoff> ls -l
[15:12] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: ls -la
[15:12] <kingkong> omg... doesn t work ... :(
[15:12] <jrib> Jimbo: what's the full error you got from 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start'?
[15:12] <Seveas> another_life, the ubuntu vnc client/server can cooperate with vnc clients/servers on other platforms as well
[15:12] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: thankies :D
[15:12] <GIn> user1: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[15:12] <kingkong> i can t boot form dvd... !! :/
[15:12] <another_life> Seveas,  so i see :) thanks i will try it
[15:12] <Jimbo> jrib: sudo: /etc/init.d/ssh: command not found
[15:12] <kingkong> grub start before...
[15:12] <fizzle> hey all, i need some help install the Amazon MP3 Downloader on my 64-bit system, has anyone done this?
[15:12] <another_life> and how can I access someone other's computer ?
[15:12] <DarrenCB9> OK /proc/meminfo does show most of the memory in use as inactive, does that mean that its free for programs to use if necessary?
[15:13] <ikonia> kingkong: change the bios boot order
[15:13] <crimsun> fizzle: not on 64-bit, no.
[15:13] <kingkong> i already setup correctly bios but... doesn t works
[15:13] <GIn> user1: also try gnomefiles.org
[15:13] <ikonia> fizzle: you'd need a 32bit compatability libary set
[15:13] <Toznoshio> another_life: using either VNC or reverse VNC
[15:13] <ikonia> kingkong: then your bios/cdrom/dvd is broke
[15:13] <kingkong> i tried with ubunto disk boot too... same error
[15:13] <cyberbrainmfkg> hi all! is there a way to download program (ex: kompozer) and all it deps(no matter uf it is already installed or not)!i want to install that software on other computer that doesn't has internet connection!thanx
[15:13] <unop__> Ehlyah, ok, if you examine the cable's ends .. the colours should match up exactly .. if not you are probably using a cross-over cable . some devices (the XBOX maybe too) can detect this and switch over to accomodate it
[15:14] <kingkong> but... i installed ubuntu yesterday... :/
[15:14] <fizzle> ikonia, yeah i searched UF and found Getlibs, but i'm not quite sure how to go about making it all work
[15:14] <ikonia> kingkong: then your bios/cdrom/dvd is broke
[15:14] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me with conky plz?
[15:14] <Seveas> another_life, applicatoins -> internet -> remote desktop. Fill in the correct info and done
[15:14] <jrib> Jimbo: so the file /etc/init.d/ssh does not exist?
[15:14] <kingkong> mmmhhh  very strange...
[15:14] <ikonia> fizzle: truthfully, for that application I wouldn't bother
[15:14] <user1> GIn i wanted to check sleepsteping suport
[15:14] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: there are conky support forums and the user j_rock is the maintainer
[15:14] <|Debian|> bum
[15:14] <shekk> ./etc/init.d/ssh start
[15:14] <ikonia> |Debian|: ?
[15:14] <Seveas> Jimbo, please pastebin the output of this command: dpkg -l '*ssh*'
[15:14] <another_life> Seveas,  i dont have a remote desktop in applications
[15:14] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: all conky user are afk
[15:15] <fizzle> ikonia: then what would you suggest?
[15:15] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: hang around there then
[15:15] <Seveas> another_life, ah, it's called terminal server client...
[15:15] <ikonia> fizzle: for amazon mp3 player options ?
[15:15] <Seveas> it still can do vnc ;)
[15:15] <geirha> Jimbo: pastebin « dpkg -L openssh-server »
[15:15] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: :(
[15:15] <scottyL> Ok, here's a doozy
[15:15] <Jimbo> jrib: yes
[15:15] <cyberbrainmfkg> can i download program and all its deps in specific directory without installing it?
[15:15] <scottyL> Last night I tried to install Gutsy Server
[15:15] <scottyL> And it gut hung up on an error with the PC's wireless card
[15:15] <cxvxcv> hi
[15:15] <Seveas> cyberbrainmfkg, I beleive aptoncd can do that for you
[15:15] <scottyL> bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed
[15:15] <fizzle> ikonia: i meant how would you go about getting the libraries if not using getlibs?
[15:16] <danand_> cyberbrainmfkg - yes wait one...
[15:16] <ikonia> fizzle: install them manually
[15:16] <scottyL> While I was trying to install the KDE on the server
[15:16] <ikonia> fizzle: just download the 32bit packages
[15:16] <ikonia> fizzle: libc etc etc
[15:16] <another_life> thanks :)
[15:16] <Seveas> scottyL, have you installed the firmware?
[15:16] <scottyL> It was suggested to me that I should try to install Desktop instead of server
[15:16] <shekk> server is cool
[15:16] <shekk> heh
[15:16] <Jimbo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62934/
[15:16] <scottyL> Seveas: I had not; it was literally the third thing I had done after installing Gutsy
[15:17] <ozgur> hi
[15:17] <shekk> install build-essentials
[15:17] <scottyL> But, the point I'm getting at is whether or not I should try to install desktop instead
[15:17] <danand_> cyberbrainmfkg - sudo apt-get --print-uris --yes install package | grep ^\' |awk -F\' '{print $2}' > package_and_deps.txt
[15:17] <Seveas> Jimbo, something went wrong when you installed openssh-server. It's unconfigured and thus the initscript doesn't exist
[15:17] <Seveas> Jimbo, try this: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:17] <scottyL> I'm just looking to set up a home toy server to get acquainted with Apache and Linux and MySQL at the same time
[15:17] <ozgur> i have wireless network card problem with my ubuntu box
[15:17] <GIn> how do u get the version number of a software package using apt?
[15:18] <danand_> cyberbrainmfkg - that will give you a list you can download with wget or whatever...
[15:18] <ozgur> is there any one give me advice
[15:18] <shekk> -V
[15:18] <Seveas> GIn, dpkg -l packagename_here
[15:18] <Jimbo> Seveas: and then?
[15:18] <GIn> Seveas: it is not installed
[15:18] <Seveas> GIn, or apt-cache policy packagename_here
[15:18] <Seveas> GIn, the 2nd one works for packages that aren't installed :)
[15:18] <kingkong> ikonia i fixed it ;) i remove detect of ide hd so it can recognize only dvd ;)
[15:18] <Seveas> Jimbo, did it give any output?
[15:18] <cyberbrainmfkg> danand_, so i get list of urls of specific package and all it deps?
[15:18] <ikonia> kingkong: sounds broke to me
[15:19] <GIn> mhh, firefox 3 beta 5 still not in the repo :(
[15:19] <Jimbo> Seveas: yes
[15:19] <ikonia> GIn: so ?
[15:19] <Seveas> GIn, it is for hardy
[15:19] <kingkong> it is really strange... but important is resolve ;)
[15:19] <shekk> does firefox 3 beta do the text enlarge thingin linux
[15:19] <danand_> cyberbrainmfkg - yes :)
[15:19] <Seveas> Jimbo, put that output on the pastebin
[15:19]  * shekk console kiddie
[15:19] <GIn> ikonia: I want to use the latest beta version
[15:19] <Jimbo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62935/
[15:20] <ozgur> i have a rtl8197 wireless network card on my toshiba satalite A215-S7437 notebook
[15:20] <ikonia> GIn: so use it then
[15:20] <Seveas> Jimbo, can you please pastebin the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:20] <ikonia> GIn: ubuntu are not going to put every beta version in a stable repo
[15:20] <GIn> ikonia: but it is not in the repo
[15:20] <kingkong> ikonia: do u know how can i make work touch screen on ubuntu ? i can just licl and double click but not move...
[15:20] <shekk> you have to compile it yourself
[15:20] <Seveas> !info firefox hardy | GIn
[15:20] <shekk> dont think the beta is in apt repos
[15:20] <Jimbo> Seveas: I didn't use apt-get for installing.
[15:20] <GIn> ikonia: firefox 3 should be an exception cause the beta is very stable and much faster than ff 2
[15:20] <ubotu> gin: firefox (source: firefox-3.0): meta package for the popular mozilla web browser. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 62 kB, installed size 120 kB
[15:21] <Jimbo> I installed the deb package
[15:21] <J-Unit> shekk, press ctrl and use scroll button on mouse
[15:21] <ikonia> GIn: no it shouldn't be an exception, it's a beta
[15:21] <ozgur> i install ubuntu neither gutsy nor hardy is achive connet to WPA-PSK network
[15:21] <Seveas> Jimbo, ah that explains. You installed a deb package that's meant for a different version of ubuntu
[15:21] <ikonia> Seveas: nice catch
[15:21] <GIn> or it should be in the backport repo at least
[15:21] <ikonia> GIn: no
[15:21] <Seveas> Jimbo, best to get rid of it: sudo dpkg --remove --purge openssh-server
[15:21] <shekk> J-Unit: why?
[15:21] <Seveas> then install it with apt-get to install the correct version
[15:21] <rinaldi_> hi, im trying to get my controller working. when I do jscal -c /dev/input/js1 i get "jscal: error getting correction: Bad address" jstest gives me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62923/
[15:21] <didy> lllllol
[15:21] <J-Unit> shekk, to enlarge text on firefox
[15:22] <J-Unit> shekk, or anything for that matter
[15:22] <user1>  which app gives me complete info about cput. like cpuz on windows does?
[15:22] <cyberbrainmfkg> danand_, i get empty package_and_dps.txt file
[15:22] <b4l74z4r> hmm, Terminal just crashed all of a sudden
[15:22] <Jimbo> Seveas: dpkg: conflicting actions -P (--purge) and -r (--remove)
[15:22] <user1> i wanted to check sleepsteping suport
[15:22] <ikonia> user1: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[15:22] <alj> hello..need some help with ubuntu 7.10
[15:22] <Jimbo> Seveas: which one to choose?
[15:22] <shekk> ohh, i dont even have X.. i just saw it did that firefox 3 enlarges images as well as text with text enlarge(in windows)
[15:22] <ikonia> alj: ask away
[15:22] <Seveas> Jimbo, --purge
[15:22] <Seveas> sorry :)
[15:22] <shekk> im on console
[15:22] <shekk> ssh'ing from a windows box right now actually
[15:22] <ikonia> shekk: we know you've told use 3 times now, console kiddie etc
[15:23] <ikonia> shekk: we get it - your uber l33t using the console
[15:23] <Jimbo> Seveas: Where do I get the deb package for my version of Ubuntu?
[15:23] <J-Unit> shekk, ctrl + scroll button works in windows and in linux and not only in firefox 3
[15:23] <user1> i wanted to check sleepsteping suport ikonia , thats not visible there
[15:23] <Seveas> Jimbo, you get it with apt-get
[15:23] <amenado> J-Unit-> press  the left side  ctrl+ +(on numpad)
[15:23] <GIn> user1: try lshw-gui
[15:23] <kingkong> ikonia: do u know how can i make work touch screen on ubuntu ? i can just licl and double click but not move...
[15:23] <alj> i got a live cd of 7.10...i boot it..but after the splash screen and loading drivers and stuff, the desktop does not load
[15:23] <Seveas> Jimbo, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[15:23] <phoenixgnome> Hey guys I have a question about my audio
[15:23] <Jimbo> Seveas: Does it get it as Deb?
[15:23] <Seveas> Jimbo, yes
[15:23] <ikonia> kingkong: not a clue, I've only used touchscreen support - say 5 times
[15:23] <Jimbo> archive
[15:23] <jrib> Jimbo: what version is your version?
[15:23] <Jimbo> ok
[15:23] <shekk> ikonia: all i was tyring to ask is if text enlarge enlarges pictures too (in linux) because i wouldnt know, and he keeps telling me how to do text enlarge
[15:23] <Seveas> and it will then install the deb as well :)
[15:23] <Jimbo> jrib: 7.04
[15:23] <shekk> i know how to do it lol
[15:24] <J-Unit> amenado, no offense but my way of doing it is faster and more efficient (at least for me)
[15:24] <user1> GIn E: Couldn't find package lshw-gui
[15:24] <Seveas> Jimbo, generally, you should not download .deb packages manually. Using apt-get is the prefered way
[15:24] <Ehlyah> unop_: the colours match up, so
[15:24] <kingkong> 5 times
[15:24] <alj>  i got a live cd of 7.10...i boot it..but after the splash screen and loading drivers and stuff, the desktop does not load
[15:24] <ozgur> i lookup to ubuntuforums.org, googled but no solution for this
[15:24] <Jimbo> Seveas: I want ability install again later, without having to download, how do I ?
[15:24] <amenado> J-Unit-> sure, you are entitled to you own opinion
[15:24] <user1> !openwrt
[15:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openwrt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:24] <ikonia> alj: what video card do you have
[15:25] <user1> !*wrt
[15:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wrt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:25] <alj> ikonia : let me check...
[15:25] <Seveas> Jimbo, the file is downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives -- store a copy in another place if you want to keep the file
[15:25] <J-Unit> amenado, i dint mean to be offensive if it came out that btw...
[15:25] <J-Unit> that way(
[15:25] <Jimbo> Seveas: OK, thanks
[15:25] <J-Unit> amenado, that way*
[15:25] <adilson> ok
[15:26] <unop_> Ehlyah, hmm, maybe you need to verify that the onboard NIC is enabled and verify that the NIC's LEDs light up on activity .. also, verify that no restrictions are in place on the router, MAC address/IP address filtering, etc
[15:26] <user1> GIn E: Couldn't find package lshw-gui
[15:26] <amenado> J-Unit its okay, i didnt get offended..we all have our favorites...
[15:26] <Ehlyah> unop_: when I put that arp -a command into cmd.exe, I got three things back, one's the gateway adress I've been getting, which is apparently dynamic, and then two other static things, maybe one of those is what I should be using?
[15:27] <saurabh> i updated 8.04 using package manager and now compiz won't start, no effects and the title bar is missing, please help
[15:27] <phoenixgnome> I got audio when I play mp3's but... I get nothing when I play music and videos from youtube
[15:27] <alj> ikonia : Its Via Chrome9 HC IGP
[15:27] <Makdaam> hi, do you know how to make all samples coming through alsa multiplied by 2 or boost the volume some other way?
[15:27] <Seveas> !hardy | saurabh
[15:27] <ubotu> saurabh: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:27] <Ehlyah> unop_: as far as I know, there's no restrictions, but how do I verify? I'm more or less a total newb
[15:27] <unop_> Ehlyah, the other two are probably addresses of other computers on the network ..
[15:27] <kingkong> anyone know how make works fine touchscreen in ubuntu ? i can just click and double click but can't move... :/
[15:27] <BizMan2008> hey guys, i set up a new ubuntu machine, and i always setup vnc through ssh
[15:27] <BizMan2008> ive down this countless times
[15:27] <BizMan2008> but for whatever reason, on this machine
[15:28] <alj> ikonia : Its Via Chrome9 HC IGP
[15:28] <Seveas> !enter | BizMan2008 :p
[15:28] <ubotu> BizMan2008 :p: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:28] <BizMan2008> i can ssh, but not vnc afterwords
[15:28] <unop_> Ehlyah, it's hard to say, each router is different ..  but can you ping anything using the wired interface on windows?   ping google.com  perhaps?
[15:28] <Ehlyah> unop_: no, that's not it. One of the adresses is in the same range, but the other one is just way off
[15:28] <BizMan2008> it says connection initiated, and ends there
[15:28] <ikonia> alj: thats unusual
[15:28] <C0il> hi
[15:28] <BizMan2008> any ideas?
[15:28] <GIn> user1: just cat /proc/cpuinfo and google for your cpu model and see the cpu specification :\
[15:28] <ikonia> alj: you've got a choice to try to debug the livecd, or you could try the alternative cd
[15:28] <Ehlyah> unop_: that's just it, I'm having a hard time setting up the wired connection on windows, too
[15:28] <unop_> Ehlyah, what are the three IP addresses there?
[15:28] <cyberbrainmfkg> Seveas, aptoncd only saves files from /var/cache/apt/archives/!is there some tool that will download program and it deps no matter if i have it already installed or not???
[15:28] <fdgdf> hi
[15:28] <ikonia> alj: most of these issues are normally ati video card related
[15:28] <fdgdf> ds
[15:28] <Seveas> cyberbrainmfkg, hmm, no idea really
[15:28] <amenado> BizMan2008-> try  the -X or -Y options to ssh and then  gnome-session &
[15:29] <scottyL> Question: I want to set up a toy server to play with LAMP, so I downloaded Gutsy Server. I had a problem with downloading something for the wireless card, so the installation of KDE hung on that last step. Someone here suggested I use Gutsy Desktop instead... will Desktop satisfy my needs?
[15:29] <unop_> !offline | cyberbrainmfkg  (maybe this?)
[15:29] <ubotu> cyberbrainmfkg  (maybe this?): If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.byethost14.com/
[15:29] <ikonia> scottyL: use the desktop version
[15:29] <Ehlyah> unop_: 192.168.1.1 (the gateway), 192.168.1.255, 224.0.0.22
[15:29] <alj> so is there anything i can do to get the live cd to work ?....i want to install it after booting it
[15:29] <BizMan2008> amenado: what are the -x or -y options? Ive never had to use them for my other machines?
[15:29] <Makdaam> BizMan2008: what do you mean ssh and then vnc? do you tunnel ports through ssh or just make a separate connection?
[15:29] <ikonia> scottyL: the desktop version works fine as a server and is more appropriate for home desktop hardware (like wirless cards)
[15:29] <C0il> Basic question: i am trying to install apache2 on my server but the package is not found ... i can only see 142 packages,.. what should i do in order to see apache2 packages ?
[15:29] <amenado> BizMan2008-> case matters.. -X    please man  ssh   for further explanations
[15:29] <Seveas> scottyL, you'll still need to download the firmware. Plug in a wired connection for now
[15:29] <danand_> cyberbrainmfkg - run the command without the direction to file to see what output if any you get. If not just try apt-get -s install packagename (this will simulate an install) to see if apt can find the package you are after
[15:30] <scottyL> ikonia: Awesome, thanks
[15:30] <ikonia> alj: try safe graphics mode from the cd boot menu
[15:30] <unop_> Ehlyah, that looks ok, except 1.255 .. thats a broadcast address and shouldnt have an entry in arp
[15:30] <scottyL> Seveas: I was downloading it and connected to a wire. The installation hung on the one part for hours
[15:30] <scottyL> Seveas: With the following error
[15:30] <Makdaam> C0il: check /etc/apt/sources.list file
[15:30] <cvd-pr> How can i change the user name?
[15:30] <Seveas> scottyL, that's strange...
[15:30] <scottyL> bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed
[15:30] <alj> ikonia : thanks..i will try that now
[15:30] <Ehlyah> unop_: I don't know how it got there either, unless through ubuntu, since that's what I filled in there as broadcast
[15:31] <Seveas> scottyL, install the b43-fwcutter package and use it to install the firmware
[15:31] <scottyL> Seveas: Yeah, it was a little annoying. But, that was when I was trying to install KDE... I had heard some bad things about knome >.<
[15:31] <phoenixgnome> I got audio when I play mp3's but... I get nothing when I play music and videos from youtube... anyone have any Idea what might I be doing wrong?
[15:31] <xcvx> hi
[15:31] <scottyL> Or, GNOME
[15:31] <xcvx> xao
[15:31] <BizMan2008> amenado: i stop the ssh service, then i do what?
[15:31] <Seveas> scottyL, there are lots of bad things to say about gnome
[15:31] <Seveas> scottyL, there are lots of bad things to say about kde as well
[15:31] <Ehlyah> unop_: maybe I should just go back to trying to set up a wireless connection for ubuntu. sure, it wasn't working either, but the wired thing would just be a temporary solution anyway
[15:31] <Seveas> scottyL, you should try both and stick to the one you like :)
[15:31] <unop_> Ehlyah, i wouldnt worry about it too much .. it's probably harmless .. the funny thing is you get an IP address from the router but you can't ping it, so it's working but connectivity is hampered
[15:32] <amenado> BizMan2008-> i didnt ask you to stop the ssh service, I merely suggested to use the extra option  -X when you are trying to ssh in to a remote host to allow for X
[15:32] <scottyL> Seveas: haha, ok. I'll try out GNOME for a while... especially if it lets me install Desktop with LAMP and have no problems
[15:32] <scottyL> Seveas: I will be able to implement LAMP on Gutsy Desktop, right?
[15:32] <Seveas> scottyL, yes. On both kubuntu gutsy desktop and ubuntu gutsy desktop :)
[15:32] <amenado> scottyL-> i will be the 3rd person to say yes..
[15:32] <scottyL> Seveas: Awesome, thanks :)
[15:33] <leewalid> hey
[15:33] <netd> hi
[15:33] <leewalid> Hey there, wanna talk??
[15:33] <leewalid> cam here
[15:33] <leewalid> cam2cam
[15:33] <netd> does anyone know any tool with which you can check the firmware version of your harddrive?
[15:33] <StPatrick> lmao
[15:33] <Seveas> leewalid, wrong channel. This is a support channel
[15:33] <Ehlyah> unop_: I think I'll boot back into ubuntu, try to get the wireless working again
[15:34] <BizMan2008> amenado: i ssh with putty
[15:34] <freepenguin> hello
[15:34] <Makdaam> netd you can try smartctl, but I'm not sure if it shows the version
[15:34] <netd> Makdaam: I'll look into it, thanks
[15:34] <ozgur> :)
[15:34] <kingkong> anyone know how make works fine touchscreen in ubuntu ? i can just click and double click but can't move... :/
[15:35] <amenado> BizMan2008-> okay, there is an option to use X on putty
[15:35] <dmsuperman_> i ran sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin, and it's been install, but i have no clue where it installed to. it also seemed to modify my apache config, because i can go to localhost/phpmyadmin and it works. anybody know A: where it installed and B: where it added the config options?
[15:35] <Seveas> kingkong, tried searching the forums? Might give you a quicker anser since nobody in here seems to be able to help you
[15:35] <kingkong> :) i tryed :(
[15:35] <BizMan2008> ok i will try
[15:35] <didy> anyone knows any other alternative for gparted that is fast????
[15:36] <kingkong> and i followed some istruction...but no success
[15:36] <ikonia> dmsuperman_ it's not an application, it's a website
[15:36] <user1> what hardware support can i get by a guest os in vbox. linux as host.  usb pci port. com port. 3d accelaration , direct x support for games. etc.?
[15:36] <ozgur> i have a rtl8187 wireless card on but it does not work?
[15:36] <ikonia> didy: gparted is the most supported tool for ubuntu
[15:36] <ikonia> user1: no direct video card
[15:36] <cableroy> hi, when i use nautilus and search for files, and i find them, i mark 'em and want to cut but i'm not allowed, but when i don't search but find the file i can cut it, how come?
[15:36] <Makdaam> dmsuperman: you can check it in synaptic/any other package manager
[15:36] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: it's not a website, it's a web-app. it runs under apache, yes, but it's also an application. the source has to be somewhere, and it's not in my www folder
[15:36] <amenado> ozgur-> which ubuntu version?
[15:37] <user1> ikonia iam talking about direct x support?
[15:37] <dmsuperman_> Makdaam: I'm ssh'ing remotely, is there a way to do that with commandline?
[15:37] <BizMan2008> amenado: enable x11 fowarding?
[15:37] <BizMan2008> that what it is
[15:37] <Makdaam> dmsuperman: just check properties of an installed package... it usually has something like "installed files"
[15:37] <ozgur> is there anybody to help me about wireless networking
[15:37] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: it is a simple website, look in your apache config for the site-enabled and where the root for phpyadmin is
[15:37] <Makdaam> dmsuperman: there's aptitude, however I don't use it daily
[15:37] <amenado> BizMan2008-> yes
[15:37] <user1> ikonia and what about other things
[15:37] <Makdaam> dmsuperman: so I can't really tell you how to check the installed files... it has a nice menu interface though
[15:37] <user1> ?
[15:37] <ikonia> user1: probably won't get any support
[15:37] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: I did, it didn't say anything. i don't completely get the grep syntax, how might i search through my entire /etc/apache2 folder for "phpmyadmin" ?
[15:38] <ozgur> BizMan2008 will you help me
[15:38] <ozgur> ?
[15:38] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: go into the sites-enabled directoy and see what sites you have
[15:38] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: it's only got 000-default in there, and it's not in that
[15:38] <amenado> ozgur-> which ubuntu version?  <== you paying attention?
[15:38] <BizMan2008> amenado: and the x display location?
[15:38] <BizMan2008> ozgur: whats your issue?
[15:38] <ozgur> 8.04 hardy
[15:38] <KrimZon> is anyone here using Wubi in XP?
[15:39] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: where is the docroot for 00-default
[15:39] <amenado> ozgur-> please visit #ubuntu+1 channel
[15:39] <ozgur> before it i had 7.10
[15:39] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: /media/sdb2/www, and no phpmyadmin isn't in it
[15:39] <BizMan2008> amenado: is that just 0?
[15:39] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: you may also want to check the config file for a redirect
[15:39] <BizMan2008> for diplsyay 0
[15:39] <ozgur> thanks but with my ubuntu 7.10 i have the same problem
[15:40] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: i haven't found any. if i could just grep the entire /etc/apache2 folder for "phpmyadmin" i could probably find it, but i'm not sure the syntax for greping all the contents of all the files in a folder
[15:40] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: grep -r
[15:40] <Seveas> smash__, did you install phpmyadmin with apt-get?
[15:40] <amenado> BizMan2008-> this a problem, you are using windows apps, i cant remember all the options available on putty, you have to do some research via google
[15:40] <Seveas> dmsuperman_*
[15:41] <user1> what hardware support can i get by a guest os in vbox. linux as host.  usb pci port. com port. 3d accelaration , direct x support for games. etc.?                 or does any other virutalisation app gives more options  for that?             any suggestions?
[15:41] <Makdaam> BizMan2008: if you connect with ssh -X user@server.com and launch any graphincal application the GUI should appear on your local station by default
[15:41] <Seveas> (sorry smash__, bad typo)
[15:41] <amenado> Makdaam-> he is using windows,  putty..
[15:41] <ikonia> user1: you won't get any sort of 3d/directx support
[15:41] <dmsuperman_> Seveas: aye
[15:41] <BizMan2008> yes windows to linux
[15:41] <dmsuperman_> Seveas: do you know where it installs to?
[15:41] <Makdaam> amenado: oh my :/ cygwin + X server sounds like an overkill
[15:41] <BizMan2008> ive done this countless times, but for whatever reason, it isnt working on this machine
[15:41] <user1> ikonia no where. in vbox  vmware . xen or qemu ??????????
[15:41] <ikonia> user1: pretty much not
[15:42] <Seveas> dmsuperman_, dpkg -L phpmyadmin -- that'll show you where the files live. It also installs a file in /etc/apache/conf (oslt) that makes /phpmyadmin an alias in the apache config to /usr/share/phpmyadmin
[15:42] <user1> ikonia they are all same.
[15:42] <ikonia> user1: they are not the same
[15:42] <user1> ?
[15:42] <amenado> BizMan2008-> i dont use windows anymore, so its a bit difficult for me to tell you the options, i already suggested to use google, okay?
[15:42] <ikonia> user1: they are different products
[15:42] <Makdaam> amenado: a socks proxy or a remote port redirect?
[15:42] <BizMan2008> dont you think i tried that already
[15:42] <BizMan2008> that why im here
[15:43] <dmsuperman_> Seveas: thanks :D
[15:43] <Dr_Link> heh, somewhat funny (if not cheesy) Ubuntu joke "Sudo...ku"
[15:43] <Seveas> Dr_Link, sudo make me a sandwich
[15:43] <amenado> BizMan2008-> nope, i dont think you have tried it, or have not look hard enuff
[15:43] <mmm4m51> :)
[15:43] <user1> ikonia but they give same hardware support?
[15:43] <Makdaam> amenado: gotta go now, but the command line parameters for ssh were -D and -R afair
[15:43] <Makdaam> bye everyone
[15:43] <Dr_Link> syntax error, use sudo --? for more information.
[15:43] <ikonia> user1: you won't get any advanced hardware support from any of them
[15:43] <didy> i've now a 50GB unallocated. so should i partition / /home /swap using gparted or go straight to install ubuntu????
[15:43] <amenado> BizMan2008-> we can help you of what is going on , on the ubuntu side, but windows applications, we may or may not know all the options
[15:43] <ikonia> didy: your call
[15:44] <Seveas> didy, straight to install -- if you want, you can make partitions using the ubuntu installer
[15:44] <ikonia> BizMan2008: what do you want to do exactly ?
[15:44] <BizMan2008> i understand that
[15:44] <didy> ok on the partition stage.. it gives me 4 options.. which one shld i choose?
[15:44] <BizMan2008> i use ssh tunneling and vnc to get into my linux machine
[15:44] <user1> ikonia ok. but comparitively. which is better in relation to my question
[15:44] <ikonia> didy: which option do you want ?
[15:44] <ikonia> user1: none really
[15:44] <cyberbrainmfkg> Seveas, apt frequently delete files in /var/cache/apt/archives...is there a way to save all your downloads permanently???
[15:44] <ikonia> BizMan2008: ok,
[15:45] <amenado> BizMan2008-> also include the info that you are using putty as the client..
[15:45] <Seveas> cyberbrainmfkg, disable the cronjob that deletes those files or regularly copy them to a safe place
[15:45] <user1> ikonia  not really ?
[15:45] <ikonia> user1: no
[15:45] <hischild> cyberbrainmfkg, apt-proxy?
[15:45] <ikonia> BizMan2008: so what is the problem
[15:45] <BizMan2008> ok so when i vnc in, usually its set up as 127.0.0.1:port
[15:46] <cableroy> hi, when i use nautilus and search for files, and i find them, i mark 'em and want to cut but i'm not allowed, but when i don't search but find the file i can cut it, how come?
[15:46] <BizMan2008> and it lets me in
[15:46] <mnereson> there an apt-get for mod jk apache tomcat connecter ??
[15:46] <user1> ikonia ok.
[15:46] <BizMan2008> i just get to a connection initialized
[15:46] <BizMan2008> and thats it
[15:46] <user1> ikonia all give a bout same features in terms of my question?
[15:46] <BizMan2008> i know its on the linux end because i have no probelm on my other linux machines
[15:46] <user1> ikonia thanks
[15:46] <ikonia> user1: yes, they will all work the same
[15:46] <Seveas> !info libapache2-mod-jk | mnereson
[15:46] <ubotu> mnereson: libapache2-mod-jk (source: libapache-mod-jk): Apache 2 connector for the Tomcat Java servlet engine. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.23-3 (gutsy), package size 120 kB, installed size 392 kB
[15:46] <ikonia> BizMan2008: sounds like your tunnel is not setup properly
[15:47] <Seveas> BizMan2008, ssh -X -L5900:localhost:5900 remote_machine_here --- then do vncviewer localhost
[15:48] <ikonia> Seveas: he's on putty
[15:48] <J-Unit> can sum1 give me a link of a conexant hsf 64-bit modem driver thats a .deb! (apparently it came out as non-deb but I need it as deb cuz i cant compile and compiling without live help on internet would be rely difficult for me)
[15:48] <ikonia> Seveas: no local xserver
[15:48] <BizMan2008> yeah im actually at work trying ot troubleshoot this lol
[15:48] <Seveas> ikonia, ah
[15:48] <BizMan2008> thers not much to how i set up ssh, just generated a rsa key, changed the port
[15:48] <BizMan2008> thats really it
[15:48] <BizMan2008> like i always do
[15:48] <BizMan2008> then the rest is in putty
[15:48] <FloodBot1> BizMan2008: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:48] <Seveas> BizMan2008, in the putty config, tell it to forward the local port 5900 to the remote port 5900. Then you can make your vnc client connect to localhost
[15:49] <BizMan2008> and i ahve that on my usb key, and putty is set to L50000, 127.0.0.1:5900
[15:49] <BizMan2008> like i walays have, so i dont have to keep port 5900 open on my firewall
[15:49] <Seveas> BizMan2008, ok, and connecting to port 50000 locally doesn't work?
[15:49] <capo> ciao
[15:50] <Seveas> BizMan2008, are you sure the vnc server is started? try this: netstat -ltnp
[15:50] <Seveas> that must show something listening on port 5900
[15:50] <Seveas> if not, vnc server hasn't started :)
[15:50] <BizMan2008> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5900            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      6936/x11vnc
[15:51] <BizMan2008> looks right?
[15:51] <Seveas> yeah
[15:51] <legah> running ubuntu8beta, just updated kernel etc trough update and lost my vga setting in menu.lst - want to run at 1280x1024 so I looked around and added vga=795 to kernel line in menu.lst but that doesn't work.. why?
[15:51] <Seveas> try this in the telnet session: nc localhost 5900
[15:51] <J-Unit> #math
[15:51] <Seveas> what does that give?
[15:51] <BizMan2008> nothing
[15:52] <virgintiger> oulq rqpide l intefqce
[15:52] <BizMan2008> does it take a while?
[15:52] <Seveas> BizMan2008, it gives you the prompt again?
[15:52] <sdfs> hi
[15:52] <BizMan2008> no
[15:52] <sdfs> ds
[15:52] <BizMan2008> just nothing
[15:52] <Seveas> virgintiger, try english -- we might understand that better
[15:52] <virgintiger> k
[15:52] <BizMan2008> i can type, but its not my name@computername
[15:52] <virgintiger> sorry bad server
[15:52] <StPatrick> Does anyone in here have Eve-Onlin working in Ubuntu 7.1?
[15:52] <Seveas> BizMan2008, k, that means it's accepting connections :)
[15:53] <Seveas> BizMan2008, windows firewall getting in the way?
[15:53] <TerrorismSux> should i download the x86 or 64 bit ?
[15:53] <TerrorismSux> i have 64 bit pc, but will that cause problems with sound/video/wlan and games?
[15:53] <Jaymac> StPatrick: just a sidenote - it's 7.10 ;) the 10 represents month of release, so the 0 is important :)
[15:53] <amenado> Bizman try the :0 for location ..I found one putty tutorial, so hopefully you can too.  http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.58/htmldoc/Chapter3.html
[15:53] <Jaymac> StPatrick: have you looked on the wine appdb?
[15:53] <Seveas> TerrorismSux, flash won't work. Same for w32codecs (wmv/wma)
[15:54] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  someone told me the exact opposite recently, lol.. They yelled at me for typing 0 every time.
[15:54] <StarCont> q all
[15:54] <spiderfire> TerrorismSux: maybe there needs to be some kind of survey about it
[15:54] <BizMan2008> Seveas: ill check, but i doubt it yesterday morning, on my old image i was fine, and then last night when i redid everything probelms!
[15:54] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  Yes, I tried installing it with Wine, didnt work, gave me an error, I have also tried installing wt with the .deb they provide for Ubuntu, which does work, and installs, but then gives me video trouble.
[15:54] <Jaymac> StPatrick: well, they're in the wrong
[15:55] <Jaymac> StPatrick: what is the video issue? compiz running? ATI/nvidia graphics?
[15:55] <StPatrick> Jaymac, intel onboard graphics
[15:55] <LjL> uhm, if i selected "keep installed version" when presented by APT with a choice whether to update a configuration file or not... how could i go back to look what the proposed new config file would have looked like, and possibly reverse my decision? how do i even find out which package was requesting the change, if dpkg -S doesn't list the file?
[15:55] <StPatrick> Jaymac, but i know the hardware is capable of running the game, because it does work in windows
[15:56] <another_life> i did a mistake with groups and i removed my user from the admin group... meaning i couldnt use sudo command at all... i fixed it but now i cannot access the volume control and i see only a couple of choices in  system-administration :( what can i do /
[15:56] <BizMan2008> brb
[15:56] <Seveas> LjL, the new file will be there with a .dpkg-new extension. If you had selected the overwrite option, the old file would be there with a .dpkg-old extension
[15:56] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  so im a little frustrated in trying to understand what'[s going wrong.
[15:56] <TerrorismSux> so x86 is stable
[15:56] <TerrorismSux> and 64 has bugs
[15:56] <TerrorismSux> ill stick with 86
[15:56] <TerrorismSux> :D
[15:56] <Jaymac> StPatrick: well what is the error message?
[15:56] <dmsuperman_> how can i switch between "tabs" in irssi?
[15:57] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  One sec, ill run it again
[15:57] <Seveas> dmsuperman_, alt+number or /win number
[15:57] <napsy_> dmsuperman_: using alt + numer
[15:57] <rausb0> dmsuperman_: alt-NUM or esc-NUM
[15:57] <philphoto> another_life: can you log in as root?
[15:57] <another_life> yes
[15:57] <dmsuperman_> heh, of COURSE everybody in #ubuntu uses irssi :P
[15:57] <LjL> Seveas: except that it isn't... might be a a bit of an oddball. it's /boot/grub/menu.lst, i was surprised to see an APT request to update it, to begin with...
[15:57] <Seveas> TerrorismSux, x86_64 is just as stable. Some closed source things are simply not available for it
[15:58] <philphoto> another_life: you should be able to set user permissions when logged in as root.
[15:58] <Seveas> LjL, it didn't request to update /boot/grub/menu.lst -- there's a trick going on there
[15:58] <another_life> philphoto,  how do i do that ?
[15:58] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  Unable to elevate, Error 2
[15:58] <BizMan2008> Seveas: i mean it knows that there is a connection, because anything else i type, no good, right away it will tell me i cant connect
[15:58] <BizMan2008> any other ideas?
[15:58] <LjL> Seveas: following up in the right channel then ;)
[15:59] <Jaymac> StPatrick: you're running it in Wine?
[15:59] <philphoto> another_life: isn't there a "users" applet in the control tab?
[15:59] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  mhm
[15:59] <rausb0> BizMan2008: maybe some firewall rules on the linux machine, blocking traffic from/to lo interface
[15:59] <Jaymac> StPatrick: what?
[15:59] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  yes mmhmmm
[15:59] <dmsuperman_> !#ubuntu
[15:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[16:00] <dmsuperman_> !ot
[16:00] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:00] <Jaymac> StPatrick: try setting your system to Win98 in winecfg
[16:00] <another_life> philphoto,  where is control tab ?
[16:00] <StPatrick> Jaymac, ok.
[16:00] <Jaymac> StPatrick: alternatively try: sudo apt-get install winbind
[16:00] <Jaymac> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=544907
[16:00] <philphoto> another_life: should be under system
[16:00] <StPatrick> Jaymac, trying 98 now
[16:00] <philphoto> another _life: are you using gnome?
[16:01] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  Hey.. nice
[16:01] <another_life> yes
[16:01] <Jaymac> StPatrick: works?
[16:01] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  that did it
[16:01] <another_life> i dont see it though
[16:01] <Jaymac> StPatrick: great :) working ok then?
[16:01] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  ok, ill install it and see if this works and better :)
[16:01] <dmsuperman_> !twinview
[16:01] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[16:01] <dmsuperman_> !X
[16:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[16:02] <philphoto> another_life: somewhere in the system control menu is an app which will allow you to set all permissions for users and groups
[16:02] <dmsuperman_> alright, i'm sure you guys don't want to see 100 ubotu info requests, what's the command to open private chat with him? i'm used to gui irc clients ;)
[16:03] <rausb0> dmsuperman_: /query ubotu
[16:03] <dmsuperman_> thanks :D
[16:03] <didy> i've 30gb unallocated partition now.. when i go installation, and choose "Guided use the largest contagious free space" it says i cannot create anymore primary partitions!
[16:03] <b4l74z4r> if you wish to use more than one commandline switch, does each one have to be preceded by a dash?
[16:04] <Seveas> b4l74z4r, depends
[16:04] <didy> does ubuntu only install on logical partition???
[16:04] <daning> I am using ubuntu 8.04 beta. my wireless connection does not work well.  Is it a known problem?
[16:04] <philphoto> didy: do you have another linux install on that hdd?
[16:04] <mok0_> didy: you need to create an extended partitions when more than 4
[16:04] <Jaymac> daning: see #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support
[16:04] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  lmao Now that it's installed correctly it told me windows 2000 or higher required.
[16:04] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  I guess switch it back over and try?
[16:05] <Jaymac> StPatrick: might be worth a try
[16:05] <daning> Jaymac: thx
[16:05] <didy> i've vista on primary, data on primary, xp on logical partition
[16:05] <TerrorismSux> i cant WAIT to get divorced
[16:05] <huggybeers> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[16:06] <TerrorismSux> wife is sooo emo
[16:06] <Seveas> TerrorismSux, offtopic talk elsewhere
[16:06] <dmsuperman_> !ot | TerrorismSux
[16:06] <ubotu> TerrorismSux: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:06] <b4l74z4r> is there a command to see the corrrect syntax for a given command?
[16:06] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  Getting a new error now
[16:06] <mok0_> bl4ckh3r0: man?
[16:07] <platyhelminth> ./glest #glest
[16:07] <TerrorismSux> Seveas and dmsuperman must be related to my wife
[16:07] <Seveas> b4l74z4r, most commands accept --help as argument. YOu can use the manpage as well
[16:07] <TerrorismSux> emo tacos n e 1?
[16:07] <dmsuperman_> heh
[16:08] <dmsuperman_> Seveas: why is it in this channel that people only get op status when they perform actions then lose it? most other channels i see they're just perm-op
[16:08] <Jaymac> StPatrick: what is it?
[16:08] <Seveas> dmsuperman_, there are several reasons
[16:08] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  ok, now it claims to be opening, doesnt give an error, but nothing ever happens
[16:08] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  the same has hapened for another application I installed with wine
[16:09] <didy> im using manual partitioning now on installation, have 30gb unallocated space. i tried to create new partitions for "/" "/swap" "/home" right? when i create 10gb and mount to /home... after it says remaining disk unsable
[16:09] <dmsuperman_> Seveas: such as? pardon the questions, i'm just a curios guy =P
[16:09] <BizMan2008> rausb0: how do i check that
[16:09] <BizMan2008> the firewall rules
[16:09] <rausb0> BizMan2008: sudo ipatbles -L -nv
[16:10] <Jaymac> StPatrick: are you trying to open it through a terminal?
[16:10] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  no
[16:10] <Jaymac> StPatrick: with the command: wine /path/to/.exe
[16:10] <StPatrick> Jaymac, no, should i be?
[16:10] <Jaymac> StPatrick: do that, and pastebin the results
[16:10] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  ok
[16:10] <Jaymac> StPatrick: well, it might give you a clue as to what's going wrong
[16:10] <didy> im using manual partitioning now on installation, have 30gb unallocated space. i tried to create new partitions for "/" "/swap" "/home" right? when i create 10gb and mount to /home... after it says remaining disk unsable
[16:11] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  workin on it
[16:11] <BizMan2008>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[16:11] <BizMan2008> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
[16:11] <BizMan2008>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[16:11] <BizMan2008> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 21908 packets, 79M bytes)
[16:11] <FloodBot1> BizMan2008: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:11] <BizMan2008>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[16:11] <BizMan2008> sorry about the flooding
[16:12] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  I have no idea how to find an exe that's installed in Wine
[16:12] <BizMan2008> rauseb0: see anything there?
[16:12] <rausb0> BizMan2008: put that on a paste service please
[16:12] <HanzZ> hi... i'm trying to configure etc/network/interfaces to ask dhcp server which I want (according to MAC address)... I can connect with dhcp -s MAC, but i want to connect automatically
[16:12] <HanzZ> how can I do it? :)
[16:13] <HanzZ> *dhclient3 -s MAC
[16:13] <BizMan2008> rausb0: http://pastebin.com/m73c1f0ea
[16:13] <Jaymac> StPatrick: it will be in .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[16:13] <rausb0> BizMan2008: the input chain is missing
[16:13] <unop__> HanzZ, add a postup directive there that includes that command .. see, man interfaces
[16:14] <BizMan2008> rausb0: my bad http://pastebin.com/m16bfc3e
[16:15] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  This is frustrating the living hell out of m.
[16:15] <Jaymac> StPatrick: you haven't found it?
[16:15] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  not even close
[16:15] <rausb0> BizMan2008: okay, no blocking rules and the policies are set to accept
[16:15] <Odd-rationale> Hello. I'm trying to mount a nfs folder to the mount point /mnt. it seems to mount fine (no errormessages) but when I cd /mnt I get "permission denied." What is the problem?
[16:16] <prem> how can i use p2p sharing ubuntu
[16:16] <Jaymac> StPatrick: ok, open up a terminal... type cd .wine/
[16:16] <prem> in ubuntu
[16:16] <didy> btw does installing on windows partition (WUbi) any different from installing on real partition? reduced functionality or what??
[16:16] <LjL> !p2p | prem
[16:16] <Jaymac> then ls to list all the directories, you want to go to drive_c then Program Files etc...
[16:16] <ubotu> prem: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[16:16] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  the .deb installation installs and runs the game, just with video issues, wouldn;t it me simpler to address that?
[16:16] <BizMan2008> rausb0: i dont know why i cant get through
[16:17] <rausb0> BizMan2008: and you started x11vnc when you were working locally on the linux box?
[16:17] <BizMan2008> like i said it connects, per say, as it says connection initialized, but tahts as far as it gets
[16:17] <BizMan2008> yes
[16:17] <BizMan2008> its running
[16:17] <rausb0> BizMan2008: so x11vnc is connected to the display the X server running on the linux box is using
[16:17] <BizMan2008> yes
[16:17] <BizMan2008> display 0
[16:18] <Jaymac> StPatrick: go for it.  You might not have powerful enough graphics drivers available... can you run compiz in 3d for example?
[16:18] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  sure can
[16:18] <rausb0> BizMan2008: and you should get the existing desktop when connecting to x11vnc, not a separate one like in Xvnc
[16:18] <BizMan2008> correct
[16:18] <BizMan2008> same session
[16:18] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  it looks like it's just not gonna work.
[16:19] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  Lets try windows though...
[16:19] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  so im in .wine/ now
[16:19] <rausb0> BizMan2008: hmm. running out of ideas.
[16:19] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  I cant seem to browse to my Program Files directory
[16:19] <Jaymac> StPatrick: type cd Progra and then hit tab to complete it
[16:19] <BizMan2008> like i said it mnakes no sense, ive rebooted, uninstalled, reinistalled
[16:19] <BizMan2008> nothing
[16:19] <sluimers> hello! I have a new monitor for my computer and Ubuntu seems to have problems with that as in I can no longer get in gnome.. I'm in the terminal looking at xorg.conf, any suggestions?
[16:19] <Jaymac> StPatrick: it is because of the space, you need to escape it with a backslash (\)
[16:19] <BizMan2008> tried a different vnc client
[16:19] <prem> how can i change root account password
[16:19] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  Hey.. that's handy!
[16:20] <jrib> !root | prem
[16:20] <ubotu> prem: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[16:20] <Jaymac> StPatrick: cd Program\ Files/ would work
[16:20] <Siph0n> I am trying to remove mysql server, but I keep getting this error "E: mysql-server-5.0: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" ... I tried googling it, but all i can find is that maybe mysql is still running, but i dont see it under ps -A
[16:20] <Siph0n> any ideas?
[16:20] <rausb0> BizMan2008: which options did you use when starting x11vnc?
[16:20] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  Ok, so being in the directory with the eve, just type wine eve.exe?
[16:20] <level09> guys, is there a way to reduce memory usage by ubuntu ?
[16:20] <BizMan2008> rausb0: the one for the password, rfauth or someting to that nature
[16:20] <BizMan2008> and the forever option
[16:20] <BizMan2008> thats it
[16:21] <jrib> Siph0n: see what the removal script is trying to do ( /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql*)
[16:21] <Jaymac> StPatrick: yes.
[16:21] <rausb0> BizMan2008: no -shared? maybe there already is someone connected?
[16:21] <BizMan2008> rausb0: but ive tried it with no options, no password nothing, and still same issue
[16:21] <BizMan2008> rausb0: if there was, then it would want to use a different port, like 5901
[16:21] <BizMan2008> no?
[16:21] <Siph0n> jrgp_, sorry, found it in ps -A
[16:21] <rausb0> BizMan2008: no, would be the same port
[16:22]  * Nith now has E17 running with ubuntu
[16:22] <Siph0n> jrib, sorry found it in ps -A , and killed it, than removed it :)
[16:22] <BizMan2008> rausb0: yea, but no one can be connected, like i said i restarted and tried it again
[16:22] <Nith> does anyone know how to change what file manager it uses?
[16:22] <jrib> Siph0n: k
[16:22] <StPatrick> Jaymac, http://pastebin.ca/982414
[16:23] <rausb0> BizMan2008: do you start x11vnc manually or through same xsession script?
[16:23] <D3RGPS31> How would someone go about editing the "Open With" list in ubuntu 7.10?
[16:23] <BizMan2008> i created the script
[16:23] <geek_inn> hi
[16:23] <BizMan2008> but i also have tried mannualy
[16:24] <geek_inn> problems with screenresolution in ubuntu
[16:24] <geek_inn> i use lg monitor
[16:24] <rausb0> BizMan2008: and the script is run when logging in via gdm or kdm?
[16:24] <matt444> what is the command to allow my user "matthew" to read all files in a directory, including files that doesn't exist yet?  I do this chmod +r matthew /directory  doesn't work though
[16:24] <jrib> D3RGPS31: right click -> properties -> open with
[16:24] <geek_inn> when i try at 800*600
[16:24] <Jaymac> StPatrick: you're on 64bit ubuntu?
[16:24] <prem> what is local alias in pidgin messenger
[16:24] <BizMan2008> yes
[16:24] <BizMan2008> well
[16:24] <BizMan2008> when i tell it to run
[16:25] <geek_inn> i see a black screen in right side of monitor
[16:25] <prem> what does local alias refer to
[16:25] <BizMan2008> i just double click on my icon
[16:25] <rausb0> BizMan2008: i mean after login or before?
[16:25] <geek_inn> 32bit
[16:25] <prem> "local alias"
[16:25] <jos_> hello i doint have sound in flash in youre tube wat to do?
[16:25] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  im not sure... my system is 32 bit.
[16:25] <geek_inn> gutsy
[16:25] <D3RGPS31> Jrib: i want to remove somethings from the Open With rightclick menu, and the Open With menu
[16:25] <jos_>  flash in youre tube broke?
[16:25] <jrib> prem: say your friends nick is jrib.  You can alias that to Jason so that you see it as "Jason" on your list
[16:25] <HanzZ> unop__: thanks, post-up works
[16:25] <Jaymac> StPatrick: ok
[16:26] <BizMan2008> after
[16:26] <geek_inn> also i want 2 know about mark shuttle
[16:26] <jrib> D3RGPS31: so did you try what I said?
[16:26] <rausb0> BizMan2008: okay
[16:26] <geek_inn> will he ever visit brainstorm
[16:26] <geek_inn> ubuntu braistorm
[16:26] <jos_> flash in youre tube broke?  what i gen do is it a bug?
[16:26] <jos_> no sound
[16:27] <D3RGPS31> Jrib: O, now I see it xD thank you
[16:27] <rausb0> BizMan2008: next thing would be stracing the x11vnc process during a connect
[16:27] <inspired12> is anyone familiar with the booting prolbem that leads to initramfs
[16:27] <geek_inn> anybdy ?
[16:27] <BizMan2008> rausb0: how od i do that?
[16:27] <inspired12> busy box
[16:27] <geek_inn> hear me????????
[16:27] <rausb0> BizMan2008: but you would have to interpret the output of strace
[16:27] <matt444> what is the command to allow my user "matthew" to read all files in a directory, including files that doesn't exist yet?  I do this chmod +r matthew /directory  doesn't work though
[16:27] <jrib> geek_inn: ask your question on a single line please
[16:28] <jrib> matt444: what directory?
[16:28] <rausb0> BizMan2008: strace -p $(pidof x11vnc)
[16:28] <Seveas> geek_inn, mark does visit ubuntu brainstorm, yes.
[16:28] <matt444> jrib directory/
[16:28] <geek_inn> great,.
[16:28] <StPatrick> Jaymac,  I gotta afk for a bit. lemme know if you think of anything, or discover anything
[16:28] <inspired12> i did an install with wubi, and it was working fine until it stopped booting correctly, and instead it goes to this busy box thing, logged in as initramfs
[16:28] <lesshaste> when I click on http://webcast.berkeley.edu/stream.php?type=real&webcastid=21475 totem says it can't play it
[16:28] <lesshaste> can anyone else play it?
[16:28] <cast> matt444: i often chown -R user dir/ to get the same effect
[16:28] <BizMan2008> rausb0: and what is that oging ot do?
[16:28] <LjL> matt444, any file on UNIX has permissions for: its owner, its group, and everyone else. you can't tell chmod that "matthew" specifically has some different permissions.
[16:29] <geek_inn> i have lg700e monitor crt,cant try 800*600 resolution on intel board,which is easy in xp
[16:29] <matt444> cast: don't want my user to chown the directory.
[16:29] <Seveas> LjL, with acl's one can actually ;)
[16:29] <rausb0> BizMan2008: writing out all the system calls x11vnc is doing
[16:29] <LjL> Seveas: UNIX.
[16:29] <matt444> LjL:  ok, then i want whatever group matthew belongs to to have read permissions for all files in this directory, current and future
[16:29] <BizMan2008> damnit too bad im not home
[16:29] <inspired12> ne1 familiar with the initramfs?
[16:29] <BizMan2008> i cant do this through ssh huh?
[16:29] <geek_inn> also,Ubuntu brainstorm-blog will ever mark shuttleworth be visiting this?
[16:29] <Seveas> LjL, not sure if acl's are part of susv3 but I thought they're in there
[16:30] <prem> is there any chating package for ubuntu like yahoo mesenger
[16:30] <LjL> matt444: what is the current group the directory belongs to? should it be changed?
[16:30] <cast> matt444: then either make the dir and contents either world readable or readable by the group, and make sure matthew is in that group
[16:30] <rausb0> BizMan2008: why not?
[16:30] <prem> public chating software
[16:30] <matt444> LjL:  pretty sure a process owns the group.  I DO NOT want to change ownership
[16:30] <jrib> prem: pidgin.  It's in your Internet menu
[16:30] <LjL> Seveas: UNIX, as Charles Babbage intended it.
[16:30] <inspired12> IRC works pretty well
[16:30] <matt444> LjL:  owns the directory i mean
[16:30] <inspired12> lol
[16:30] <Seveas> jaja
[16:30] <prem> pidgin is a messenger
[16:30] <LjL> matt444: processes don't own directories
[16:30] <matt444> cast:  HOW!
[16:30] <BizMan2008> rausb0: how do i found out the pid
[16:31] <inspired12> so no takers for the initramfs problem?
[16:31] <prem> can pidgin be used for chating
[16:31] <matt444> LjL:  then sudo owns it or whoever.  The point is, I don't want to own it, just to read it
[16:31] <inspired12> things were going so well
[16:31] <BizMan2008> prem: yes
[16:31] <rausb0> BizMan2008: i already gave you the syntax
[16:31] <inspired12> prem: yea
[16:31] <BizMan2008> prem: has all the IM clients u want
[16:31] <LjL> matt444: look, perhaps if you explain which directory that is and why you need to read it, a decent solution can be worked out
[16:31] <rausb0> BizMan2008: $(pidof x11vnc) will be replaced by the pid of x11vnc
[16:31] <BizMan2008> no i know
[16:31] <geek_inn> ok none answered my question,any ideas when are shipit dates be arriving
[16:32] <BizMan2008> i was wondering how u find it through the ocmmand prompt
[16:32] <matt444> LjL:  fine.  the directory is /var/log/postgresql .  I need to read it because it contains log messages that are important to me.
[16:32] <BizMan2008> the pid
[16:32] <BizMan2008> pid
[16:32] <rausb0> BizMan2008: pidof x11vnc
[16:32] <jrib> !fixres > geek_inn (read the private message from ubotu)
[16:32] <BizMan2008> rausb0: no go
[16:32] <rausb0> BizMan2008: then it is not running
[16:32] <LjL> matt444: on my system, it's owned by user root and group root, is it the same on yours? (ls -l -d /var/log/postgresql)
[16:32] <jhperlow> greetings... is there a wubi channel?
[16:33] <BizMan2008> no
[16:33] <BizMan2008> command not found
[16:33] <rausb0> BizMan2008: pidof is not found?
[16:33] <BizMan2008> oh got it
[16:33] <Seveas> jhperlow, tried #wubi?
[16:33] <BizMan2008> needed to have a psace
[16:33] <Gibb> whats the command to do a ipconfig /renew in ubuntu?
[16:33] <matt444> LjL:  drwxrwxr-t 2 root postgres 4096 2008-04-12 11:22 /var/log/postgresql
[16:33] <LjL> jhperlow: #wubi, but not sure it's active
[16:33] <jhperlow> nobody on it
[16:33] <geek_inn> anybody notice my posts>
[16:33] <jhperlow> not even a bot
[16:33] <Seveas> Gibb, dhclient eth0 (replace eth0 with the interface you want)
[16:33] <rausb0> BizMan2008: pswhat?
[16:33] <LjL> matt444: then i'd probably make yourself a member of the postgres group (short of using root privileges to look at the log contents... which is what i'd *actually* do myself)
[16:33] <jhperlow> hrrm, I'm experiencing wubi issues and just want to find the right place
[16:34] <symtab> is there a ubuntu multimedia repository?
[16:34] <LjL> !codecs > symtab    (symtab, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:34] <BizMan2008> space
[16:34] <LjL> !medibuntu > symtab    (symtab, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:34] <Gibb> Seveas, thank you
[16:34] <jhperlow> seems the latest apt-get update/upgrade blew up my wubi heron
[16:34] <rausb0> BizMan2008: ah okay
[16:34] <jhperlow> goes right to initramfs
[16:34] <BizMan2008> rausb0: ok i ran it
[16:34] <symtab> thanks
[16:34] <geek_inn> i think staying here is waste
[16:34] <BizMan2008> but it just keeps going and going
[16:35] <rausb0> BizMan2008: like i said, you have to interpret the output
[16:35] <ultimate-> can i install ubuntu while i boot the iso in windows?
[16:35] <BizMan2008> rausb0: lol, no clue
[16:35] <matt444> LjL:  how do i make myself a member of the postgres grou
[16:35] <LjL> ultimate-: "boot the iso in windows"?
[16:35] <BizMan2008> resoure tempoararly unavailble
[16:35] <BizMan2008> is what i see alot
[16:35] <hti_pro> hey anyone know if there is a dhcp channel
[16:35] <LjL> matt444: sudo adduser $USER postgres
[16:35] <ultimate-> ljl : i mean from inside of windows xp
[16:36] <LjL> ultimate-: eh... how do you boot an iso from inside of windows xp? that makes no sense to me...
[16:36] <ultimate-> boot the iso = using demon tools or something
[16:36] <LjL> ultimate-: then *mount* the iso?
[16:36] <jhperlow> utilmate: you can do that with virtualization
[16:36] <ultimate-> daemon*
[16:36] <rausb0> BizMan2008: try connecting and look if something changes
[16:36] <hti_pro> use vmware
[16:36] <ultimate-> LjL : yes my bad mount :)
[16:36] <BizMan2008> rausb0: http://pastebin.com/m7da81b19
[16:36] <rausb0> BizMan2008: you can terminate strace by pressing ctrl-c
[16:36] <BizMan2008> thats what i have now
[16:36] <LjL> ultimate-: and you're asking what? if you can install Ubuntu while in windows?
[16:36] <BizMan2008> ill try that now
[16:36] <ultimate-> ljl : yes
[16:36] <hti_pro> ultimate-: alcohol 120 soes great with isos
[16:36] <dmsuperman_> how can i save a file locally over ssh?
[16:36] <jhperlow> ultimate: download vmware server for windows
[16:36] <jhperlow> its free
[16:37] <dmsuperman_> jhperlow: hardly. free if you pirate it.
[16:37] <cast> dmsuperman_: you could xfer it using sftp or scp
[16:37] <jhperlow> cast:
[16:37] <LjL> ultimate-: you can't do that. you can using Wubi, which will be included in the next version of Ubuntu; however, if you do it like that, it won't be a "standard" Ubuntu installation running from its own HD partition. the HD partition will be simulated using a file in Windows
[16:37] <jhperlow> vmware server is free
[16:37] <rausb0> BizMan2008: looks like it tries to read from a dead connection
[16:37] <jhperlow> ESX server is not
[16:37] <hti_pro> anyone know of a channel that i can get dhcp support
[16:37] <dmsuperman_> jhperlow: for windows you can get Virtual PC and it's completely free. and it's decent
[16:38] <jhperlow> you can also get virtualbox
[16:38] <jhperlow> for windows
[16:38] <rausb0> BizMan2008: and the new connect is not visible at all
[16:38] <jhperlow> thats also free
[16:38] <BizMan2008> rausb0: no difference
[16:38] <LjL> !windows
[16:38] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[16:38] <ultimate-> thanks ljl does that means it would be like a unbutu player like its own vmware type?
[16:38] <LjL> ultimate-: no
[16:38] <dmsuperman_> virtualbox is on windows?
[16:38] <ultimate-> okay
[16:38] <rausb0> BizMan2008: did you test if this x11vnc is working at all, without going through a ssh tunnel?
[16:38] <jhperlow> I think they have one, yeah.
[16:38] <dmsuperman_> !microsoft
[16:38] <LjL> ultimate-: it runs Ubuntu natively (by starting it instead of Windows in some what that i don't really know)
[16:38] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[16:38] <jhperlow> they have one for everything
[16:38] <hti_pro> anyone want to talk about something besides windows
[16:38] <BizMan2008> BizMan2008: no
[16:38] <BizMan2008> rausb0: no
[16:38] <danand_> dmsuperman_ - scp? scp user@ip.add.re.ss:dir/to/file.ext file.ext
[16:39] <ultimate-> ljl : ill wait for new version thanks a lot
[16:39] <jhperlow> well, I definitely need to talk about windows, my wubi is toast
[16:39] <jhperlow> lol
[16:39] <LjL> ultimate-: the only thing similar to virtual machines is that, instead of working on a real partition, Ubuntu will use a file from the Windows filesystem as its "hard drive"
[16:39] <BizMan2008> i would have to open port 5900 then no?
[16:39] <dmsuperman_> danand_: I'm SSH'ing to my home pc right now, from windows
[16:39] <ultimate-> LjL : got it
[16:39] <hti_pro> this isn't a windows channel though
[16:39] <bya> #ubuntu-fr
[16:39] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: im sorry for your horrible situation
[16:39] <jochmenDS> hmm nice toast
[16:39] <LjL> i suggest trying #ubuntu+1 for Wubi help (if #wubi doesn't help), as it will be included in the next version of Ubuntu
[16:39] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: why do you say that?
[16:40] <rausb0> BizMan2008: yes. but i wouldn't do that over internet since vnc is not encrypted.
[16:40] <theunixgeek> I uninstalled and reinstalled Wine in Ubuntu and now the Wine menu is missing. How do I get it back?
[16:40] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: using windows is always a horrible situation
[16:40] <ultimate-> nice
[16:40] <danand_> dmsuperman_ - ah...
[16:40] <ultimate-> 12 more days it says on the website
[16:40] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: oh, i don't care. that's why i'm SSH'ing. I'm at school, in class
[16:40] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: In fact, this IRC client is irssi over ssh from home haha
[16:40] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: i understand
[16:41] <hti_pro> anyone good with dhcp
[16:41] <BizMan2008> yeahrausb0:  but even locally to get it to work
[16:41] <LjL> theunixgeek: uhm, i can't say i know, but perhaps try wine /usr/lib/wine/winemenubuilder.exe.so
[16:41] <BizMan2008> odnt i need it to unblock the port
[16:41] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: like, what specifically?
[16:42] <hti_pro> like, my client does a DHCP discover, it is offered a valid ip in the proper subnet of 10.83.253.255, but instead it uses an ip in the subnet 192.168.0.255
[16:42] <inspired12> ﻿anyone have the busy box initramfs experience?
[16:42] <inspired12> I get dumped to this busybox thing on boot
[16:42] <TerrorismSux> taco-salad
[16:42] <hti_pro> worked just fine till i booted the other day and now this,  all other machines recieve dhcp offer just fine,
[16:42] <TerrorismSux> ok ive downgraded to 7x
[16:42] <inspired12> initramfs is the prompt
[16:43] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: Too much for me to help heh
[16:43] <rausb0> BizMan2008: locally? no
[16:43] <inspired12> but im not sure why its not loading
[16:43] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: why even DHCP though?
[16:43] <TerrorismSux> finally my restricted drivers work just fine now
[16:43] <matt444> LjL:  i ran that statement.  it gave me read permissions for EXISTING files.  new files create since then are not readable by me
[16:43] <rausb0> BizMan2008: you have seen it is not blocked by any iptables rules
[16:43] <hti_pro> it is easier to make ip changes in one location than accross 14 machines
[16:43] <hti_pro> i use static ip but it is set with dhcp
[16:43] <Gibb> how do I make ubuntu hax0r proof? Im afraid of getting a rootkit
[16:43] <SimplySeth> is there a command line option to instal a previous kernel ?
[16:43] <TerrorismSux> one problem after fresh install... update manager doesnt show any updates
[16:44] <gort42> Gibb: unplug it from the net
[16:44] <hti_pro> where can i get dhcp help, doesnt seem to be a #dhcp channel
[16:44] <Odd-rationale> Terr
[16:44] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: aaah, the dhcp sets the ip statically based on the machine/mac/whatever
[16:44] <theunixgeek> LjL: thanks
[16:44] <BizMan2008> well i did try this yesterday even though this may be dumb
[16:44] <BizMan2008> i didnt have any other machine next to me
[16:44] <Gibb> gort42, hehe
[16:44] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: right
[16:44] <TerrorismSux> odd
[16:44] <khaotik> does anyone know of a good link i could use to learn more useful terminal commands??
[16:44] <BizMan2008> so i tried to vnc into the same machine lol
[16:44] <BizMan2008> but it didnt work
[16:44] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: http://netsplit.de search for a #dhcp channel, you usually get good results
[16:44] <LjL> matt444: uhm, do files in that directory all have postgres as group? (ls -l /var/log/postgresql)
[16:44] <Odd-rationale> TerrorismSux: did you update your repos? "sudo apt-get update"?
[16:44] <BizMan2008> using xtightvncviewer
[16:44] <Randocal> I've got a friend with a brand new Ubuntu install, he's running into some stability issue however. It seems that his system is locking up on him, first his mouse stops responding, and generally his keyboard stops shortly aftewards. At that point we aren't sure if the whole PC is freezing, or if he's just losing USB functionality. I have him logged in from his laptop via an SSH session at the moment, and am not sure which log file is be
[16:44] <Randocal> st to "tail -f" in an effort to see what's happening right as the crashing occurs. Would I be best off tailing somehitn glike dmesg, or something like syslog?
[16:44] <matt444> LjL: yes, all of them
[16:45] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: i did a google search and nothing
[16:45] <rausb0> BizMan2008: vnc'ing to x11vnc running on the very same machine causes nice effects :)
[16:45] <TerrorismSux> yes i did Odd-rationale
[16:45] <BizMan2008> rausb0: i know, but i coudlnt even get those effects to work
[16:45] <theunixgeek> LjL: sorry for the late response, but thanks :)
[16:45] <Odd-rationale> TerrorismSux: then after that did you do "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[16:45] <khaotik> does anyone know of a good link i could use to learn more useful terminal commands??
[16:45] <LjL> matt444: and what do their permissions look like?
[16:45] <TerrorismSux> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:45] <level09> how do I reduce the memory used by ubuntu ? I only want to run a LAMP server
[16:45] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: how about specifically searching for whichever OS you use to DHCP?
[16:45] <rausb0> BizMan2008: then x11vnc didn't run properly. which ubuntu version?
[16:45] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: nothing for dhcp on that site either, maybe general networking
[16:46] <LjL> level09: you could avoid using a graphical interface
[16:46] <LjL> !server > level09    (level09, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:46] <gort42> Gibb: go here lots of info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security
[16:46] <LjL> !lamp > level09    (level09, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:46] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: I am already here
[16:46] <D3RGPS31> How do I change permissions over files and folders from root to a user through terminal?
[16:46] <BizMan2008> 8.04
[16:46] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: ubuntu runs your dhcp server?
[16:46] <BizMan2008> but thats what i was running it on b4
[16:46] <Gibb> thx gort42
[16:46] <BizMan2008> no problems
[16:46] <SimplySeth> khaotik: http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[16:46] <matt444> LjL:  here's one of the files i can't read -rw-r----- 1 postgres postgres     62 2008-04-12 11:40 postgresql-2008-04-12_114057.log
[16:46] <rausb0> BizMan2008: 8.04 is not supported here and not released
[16:46] <TerrorismSux> isnt it sudo passwd name group ?
[16:46] <LjL> !permissions > D3RGPS31    (D3RGPS31, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:46] <BizMan2008> did i say 8.04
[16:46] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: no serer is pure debian, but client is ubuntu gutsy.  seems to be a problem with the client
[16:46] <BizMan2008> i meant 7.10
[16:46] <BizMan2008> lol
[16:46] <level09> LjL:I'm not using any graphical interface
[16:46] <Odd-rationale> TerrorismSux: maybe your system is already uptodate?
[16:46] <unop_> D3RGPS31, given a particular folder -  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /path/to/folder
[16:46] <LjL> D3RGPS31: but don't do that unless you really know what you're doing... not with files that aren't in your /home, at least
[16:47] <TerrorismSux> perhaps, off a fresh 7.10 install
[16:47] <level09> LjL: i'm using a server edition of ubuntu gutsy
[16:47] <rausb0> BizMan2008: i still have 7.04 so i cannot test if x11vnc has problems in 7.10
[16:47] <gort42> Gibb: u bet....all it takes is the appropriate search on the forums to answer the majority of questions levied here
[16:47] <dmsuperman_> hti_pro: ah. then i dunno, wait for somebody more knowledgeable is my suggestion then :S
[16:47] <D3RGPS31> thank you guys xD
[16:47] <BizMan2008> is there another alterntive to x11vnc
[16:47] <hti_pro> dmsuperman_: thanks
[16:47] <Odd-rationale> TerrorismSux: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/source.lst file?
[16:47] <LjL> matt444: try typing « group postgrep » and then reading the files (type « group $USER » when you're finished)
[16:47] <rausb0> BizMan2008: not for exporting the existing desktop
[16:47] <BizMan2008> that displays 0
[16:47] <s2k-patrik> hello all :0)
[16:48] <Gibb> gort42, how do I see a list of current outgoing tcp/udp connections? is there a tcpview for linux like in windows?
[16:48] <TerrorismSux> lol sure (blank)
[16:48] <gort42> Gibb: try tcpdump
[16:48] <rausb0> BizMan2008: of course there is a alternative for working remote: using only textmode apps and using screen in the ssh session
[16:48] <LjL> level09: then i don't know how you'd reduce memory used very much... note that much of the "taken" memory is usually just cache, that the kernel will immediately free up when needed
[16:48] <TerrorismSux> the /etc/apt/source.lst file is empty
[16:48] <level09> LjL: is there any commands for clearing up cache Manually ?
[16:48] <LjL> level09: if you type "free", look at the cached amount and subtract it from the used memory, to get the "real" amount of memory in use
[16:48] <Odd-rationale> TerrorismSux: ah. that is the problem..
[16:48] <unop_> hti_pro, is this a problem with just one specific machine?
[16:48] <BizMan2008> haha
[16:48] <BizMan2008> yeah
[16:49] <gort42> Gibb: or if you want a gui based packet sniffer look at wireshark
[16:49] <LjL> level09: none are needed. when program request memory, the kernel will provide it.
[16:49] <kongove> hello
[16:49] <TerrorismSux> i crapped the bed? or is it a bug
[16:49] <BizMan2008> but its nice to browse the web from work, unfiltered, and no sites being blocked
[16:49] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: populate it :D or try using the gui app, under system -> administration -> software sources
[16:49] <Odd-rationale> Hey guys, where is that site to generate one's sources.lst?
[16:49] <level09> okay thanks
[16:49] <LjL> Odd-rationale: it's gone
[16:49] <amenado> SimplySeth-> you use the old kernel in /boot to boot from it
[16:49] <TerrorismSux> rgr that dms
[16:49] <Odd-rationale> LjL: :(
[16:49] <LjL> !sources | Odd-rationale
[16:49] <ubotu> Odd-rationale: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[16:49] <unop_> Gibb, there's also iptraf - which might be better than tcpdump if you want something interactive
[16:49] <Gibb> unop_, ok cool
[16:49] <rausb0> BizMan2008: that's what i do when i work remote. i don't have enough bandwidth for vnc or remote x11 anyway.
[16:49] <inspired12> !initramfs
[16:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initramfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:50] <TerrorismSux> dmsuperman: rgr it looks like when 7.10 couldnt use my wifi drivers to access the net, the sources from internet were disabled
[16:50] <inspired12> me neither ubotu, me neither
[16:50] <TerrorismSux> the world is good now
[16:50] <Odd-rationale> TerrorismSux: try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[16:50] <Odd-rationale> LjL: thanks
[16:50] <LjL> Odd-rationale: personally, i'd still tend to look at a sources.list manually to make sure it makes sense...
[16:51] <Odd-rationale> LjL: true. I'll take a look at it when he tries the gui method first...
[16:51] <hti_pro> unop: yes, just one machine
[16:51] <TerrorismSux> thanks odd
[16:52] <sluimers> hello! I have a new monitor for my computer and Ubuntu seems to have problems with that as in I can no longer get in gnome.. I'm in the terminal looking at xorg.conf, any suggestions?
[16:52] <Randocal> I've got a friend with a brand new Ubuntu install, he's running into some stability issue however. It seems that his system is locking up on him, first his mouse stops responding, and generally his keyboard stops shortly aftewards. At that point we aren't sure if the whole PC is freezing, or if he's just losing USB functionality. I have him logged in from his laptop via an SSH session at the moment, and am not sure which log file is be
[16:52] <Randocal> st to "tail -f" in an effort to see what's happening right as the crashing occurs. Would I be best off tailing somehitn glike dmesg, or something like syslog?
[16:52] <TerrorismSux> sweet time to let it patch, time to watch some tv
[16:53] <amenado> Randocal-> which version of ubuntu?
[16:53] <Randocal> Sorry, i shoulda stated that, 7.10 gutsy
[16:53] <kongove> hello，everyone.
[16:53] <Randocal> I am tailing /var/log/dmesg at the moment trying to wait for a crash, will we likely see any useful info appear in dmesg?
[16:54] <amenado> Randocal-> also look into top and see if the  cpu usage is maxing out
[16:54] <pere_> Hello! I need help! I have just instaled ubuntu studio, and there is not network icon from the taskbar what canI do?
[16:54] <fation_linuX> hello everybody
[16:55] <kongove> Maybe you have no drice of network card
[16:55] <BizMan2008> well i guess thats it
[16:55] <fation_linuX> got problem with usb device d-link dwl-g122
[16:55] <BizMan2008> i give up
[16:55] <Otacon22> how can i change Alsa default device?
[16:55] <amenado> Bizman try the :0 for location ..I found one putty tutorial, so hopefully you can too.  http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.58/htmldoc/Chapter3.html
[16:56] <rausb0> BizMan2008: sorry i couldn't help
[16:56] <obione> hi
[16:56] <obione> need help here
[16:56] <Randocal> His mouse and keyboard have both stopped responding (both are using USB) but his SSH session is still alive
[16:56] <BizMan2008> its ok
[16:56] <BizMan2008> at least you kept trying
[16:56] <BizMan2008> and i appreciate it
[16:56] <sluimers> Randocal, I had a similair problem two weeks ago, did you put in a new USB extension cord? That happened to be my cause
[16:57] <obione> my pendrive stop reconizing after connecting it to a wln machine :(
[16:57] <Randocal> No, neither device is using an extension at all, they are both USB plugged directly into the motherboard with no extenders
[16:57]  * fation_linuX ka shqiptar ketu?
[16:57] <dmsuperman_> !english fation_linuX
[16:57] <fation_linuX> sorry
[16:57] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[16:57] <Odd-rationale> TerrorismSux: let me know if you have any success../.
[16:57] <fation_linuX> ;)
[16:57] <dmsuperman_> no problem, though wtf happened to ubotu
[16:57] <obione> .
[16:57] <obione> .
[16:57] <obione> my pendrive stop reconizing after connecting it to a wln machine :(
[16:57] <FloodBot1> obione: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:57] <kongove> It is time to go to bad,bye
[16:57] <obione> .
[16:58] <dmsuperman_> !english
[16:58] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[16:58] <IndyGunFreak> !english | dmsuperman you just don't know how to use me
[16:58] <ubotu> dmsuperman you just don't know how to use me: please see above
[16:58] <dmsuperman_> odd
[16:58] <BizMan2008> rausb0: think i can install another vnc server through ssh, and try it
[16:58] <dmsuperman_> oh yeah forgot pipe :P
[16:58] <Odd-rationale> dmsuperman_: yes?
[16:58] <xteven> Perhaps I do not understand SSH correctly but is there a way I can connect to a server, execute a lengthy command, disconnect and then periodically re-connect to check it's progress?
[16:58] <fation_linuX> can someone help me 4 the usb d-link dwl-g122?
[16:58] <lesshaste> can anyone play http://www.aftenposten.no/webtv/?id=9511&cat=22 ?
[16:58] <rausb0> xteven: use screen for that
[16:58] <prem> what is the software to send sms message from pc to mobile phone
[16:58] <amenado> xteven-> yes
[16:59] <prem> in ubuntu
[16:59] <xteven> rausb0, thanks
[16:59] <sluimers> hello! I have a new monitor/lcdtv for my computer and Ubuntu seems to have problems with that as in I can no longer get into gnome.. I'm in the terminal looking at xorg.conf, any suggestions?
[16:59] <IndyGunFreak> fation_linuX: is that a wireless device?
[16:59] <xteven> amenado, thanks
[16:59] <fation_linuX> yes
[16:59] <prem> software package to sms in ubuntu
[16:59] <dmsuperman_> Odd-rationale: haha, i was just saying the word "odd"
[16:59] <IndyGunFreak> fation_linuX: what chipset is it?
[16:59] <BizMan2008> rausb0: what you think
[16:59] <rausb0> xteven: when logged in via ssh, start a screen session and then run your command. the detach from screen by pressing ctrl-a d and log out. later log in again and run screen -r (reattach)
[16:59] <fation_linuX>  ID 07d1:3c03 D-Link System
[16:59] <amenado> prem-> look in to chikka    chikka.com
[16:59] <rausb0> BizMan2008: maybe it's worth a try
[17:00] <BizMan2008> whats a good one to try
[17:00] <BizMan2008> server wise
[17:00] <rausb0> BizMan2008: tightvncserver (don't know the exacty package name)
[17:00] <IndyGunFreak> fation_linuX: make sure the device is plugged in, open a terminal and type "lsusb".. no quotes, and see how it identifies the devie(most likely, either Atheros, Broadcom or Ralink)
[17:00] <dmsuperman_> !xforward
[17:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xforward - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:00] <dmsuperman_> !forwarding x
[17:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about forwarding x - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:00] <tovare> hi, is there a 7.10 package for glk ? I need it to compile glulx (interactive fiction).
[17:00] <fation_linuX> just d-link system
[17:00] <fation_linuX> it's plugged
[17:00] <rausb0> BizMan2008: but i really don't do much vnc so i cannot tell which one is best
[17:00] <LollinopiL> how can I disable the CPU's alarm ? ? ? ? everytime I close an open office document without saving it i heard that sound !!! can anyone help me ?
[17:00] <fation_linuX> it's function as well
[17:01] <BizMan2008> ok thanks
[17:01] <aNOOBisa> hi has anyone ever gotton darkice to work with icecast2?
[17:01] <fation_linuX> but disconnected some times
[17:01] <fation_linuX> don't know why
[17:01] <dmsuperman_> !xforwarding
[17:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xforwarding - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:01] <fation_linuX> every hour
[17:01] <dmsuperman_> i hate you ubotu.
[17:01] <IndyGunFreak> !msgthebot | dmsuperman
[17:01] <ubotu> dmsuperman: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:01] <amenado> !enter | fation_linuX
[17:01] <ubotu> fation_linuX: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:01] <aNOOBisa> I am not getting any sound on the other side and I don't have any idea why
[17:01] <sluimers> !samsung
[17:01] <ardeny> hello
[17:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samsung - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:01] <xteven> rausb0, one more thing. When I connect over SSH... the server is do absolutely all the computations correct? For example, if I were to tell the server to move a couple gigs of info my remote terminal is not doing any of the moving
[17:01] <dmsuperman_> anybody know a good guide to forwarding x?
[17:02] <francesco> Hello, guys. I need some information. I have to buy a DVD burner. Do I have some limitation in compatibility with Ubuntu?
[17:02] <francesco> Thank you.
[17:02] <dmsuperman_> xteven: of course
[17:02] <dmsuperman_> xteven: that's a lot of the reason for using remote connections
[17:02] <xteven> dmsuperman, thats what I thought but for some reason my terminal becomes very slow
[17:02] <unop> xteven, errm, any commands you do on the server apply to the server not anywhere else .. it doesn't make sense if things are done elsewhere
[17:02] <Randocal> What log files would be best to peek into regarding loss of use on a USB mouse and keyboard? I'm new enough to Ubuntu that I'm not sure where to loo for this.... SSH to the machine form a putty window is still up and running so the machine isn't freezing, just something is making the keyboard/mouse die on us
[17:02] <IndyGunFreak> francesco: i wouldn't think so, if you get a normal, IDE DVD burner, it should work fine.. I use Lite-ON, cuz they're cheap and fairly reliable, and have always worked for me
[17:02] <dmsuperman_> xteven: it becomes slow because the remote is slow, so it's not able to refresh data as much
[17:03] <dmsuperman_> xteven: the SSH server becomes less responsive, so you see the effects :)
[17:03] <francesco> IndyGunFreak: What about an ATA driver?
[17:03] <xteven> dmsuperman, mmm.. slow as in how? It's a pretty new T60
[17:03] <g[r]eek> Hi guys I've installed gutsy - during install the DHCP phase didn't detect connection. After install I've tried both static, dhcp and roaming but none are working. What's funny though is that another PC (this one) is working just fine, also gutsy, going through the same hub
[17:03] <g[r]eek> Any idea what it could be?
[17:03] <unop> Randocal, have you verified that USB support is enabled in the BIOS ?
[17:03] <dmsuperman_> xteven: That's i'm not sure, it really depends on the commands you're running and the hardware
[17:03] <IndyGunFreak> you *shouldn't* need one.. the Kernel has tons of IDE/ATA drivers and *should* recognize it out of the box.
[17:03] <xteven> dmsuperman, ok ok I'll believe it ;-) thanks lol
[17:04] <danand_> Randocal - /var/log/kern.log /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:04] <fation_linuX> any idea?
[17:04] <dmsuperman_> xteven: but if you're transferring data, depending on the hard drive interface that could be the cause of slowness.
[17:04] <celticbhoy> Might sound daft, but new to this on Linux, On windows I used mIRC to access extreme-moviez on the rizon server(I think) how do I import my channel list from mIRC to XChat ???
[17:04] <rausb0> xteven: the terminal display still has to be sent over the network connection to you, but once you detach from the screen session, it will speed up
[17:04] <|Debian|> g[r]eek: ifconfig ?
[17:04] <amenado> g[r]eek-> the install would still complete even if the network does not get a route to the archive, you just have to update post install
[17:04] <desti> http://vanderled.com/onlinestore/product_info.php/products_id/81 0_o
[17:04] <francesco> IndyGunFreak: What about USB external HDDs?
[17:04] <dmsuperman_> celticbhoy: memorize it and re-add them ;) =P
[17:04] <xteven> rausb0, ok I am going to use screen
[17:04] <IndyGunFreak> francesco: what about them?
[17:04] <unop> xteven, you could start the command off with a lower nice value .. that way the ss server is not affected as much
[17:04] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: I run ifconfig and I get info for eth0
[17:05] <Randocal> unop - The mouse and keyboard work for a random amount of time. When the system is first powered on everything is fine for between 2 minutes and 30 minutes. Usually the mouse will stop responding first, and shortly after the keyboard goes. SSH from a WinXP machine continues to function after both keyboard and mouse die.
[17:05] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: I imagine that implies the hardware is ok
[17:05] <celticbhoy> Going to sound even dafter now, but where do I enter the details.
[17:05] <amenado> g[r]eek-> the install would still complete even if the network does not get a route to the archive, you just have to update post install
[17:05] <unop> xteven, e.g.  nice -n 20 cp -R foo bar
[17:05] <dmsuperman_> anybody have a suggestion for a guide to forwarding x over ssh?
[17:05] <|Debian|> g[r]eek: yeah
[17:05] <|Debian|> mhmm
[17:05] <francesco> IndyGunFreak: Does Ubuntu have problems with USB storage?
[17:05] <ardeny> hellp me
[17:05] <|Debian|> minimal install worked fine for me
[17:05] <xteven> unop, okay I have to read what "nice" is
[17:05] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: Also, my BIOS has a "SMART LAN" test, if I unplug the network cable it says "no connection", and with the cable plugged in it says "Connection found, cable < 10m" - so I imagine the hardware is indeed ok
[17:05] <IndyGunFreak> francesco: provided you have them in the right filesystem, etc, you shouldn't, I have 3.. they all work finej
[17:06] <apathetic-> Hello, "hda: drive not ready for command", i get that message everytime i try to boot, I cannot even use my recovery CDs (ubuntus own, freesbie, dsl), they work until the moment of acctuall startup, I do not know what to do about this, i tried to c-a-f4 and login, it just results in the same error after entring username
[17:06] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: But what I don't get is that it doesn't want to get an IP address. I run dhclient eth0 on my current pc and the DHCP server responds and assigns it an address and all is ok. But on the other PC the DHCP server doesn't respond
[17:06] <unop> Randocal, there's a few files you can check ... they're in /var/log/* kern.log, debug, syslog, etc # but i'd assume kern.log would have info
[17:06] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: re: filesystem. I have a flash drive in fat, and of course that works, but my ntfs external hard drive also works just fine as long as i use ntfs-3g
[17:06] <David_> tried http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_X-forwarding dmsuperman?
[17:07] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: Also I've tried configuring manually, iface eth0 inet static etc
[17:07] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: if yuou're gonna answer, follow the conversation
[17:07] <francesco> IndyGunFreak: So I shouldn't have problem with "normal" IDE/ATA DVD burners although in the box it's not written that it's compatible with Linux. Ok?
[17:07] <dmsuperman_> David_: thanks :D
[17:07] <Randocal> thank you, i'll peek in there and see what we find
[17:07] <IndyGunFreak> francesco: that would be my thinking, yes
[17:07] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: then ifconfig gives all the details (address etc) but still no internet connection
[17:07] <|Debian|> g[r]eek:  i can't figure it out
[17:07] <francesco> IndyGunFreak: Thank you very much.
[17:07] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: Can't even ping the router, nor the other laptop on the same network
[17:07] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: I am totally stomped.
[17:07] <g[r]eek> *stumped
[17:07] <Randocal> I'm totally comfortable googling for some answers and seeing how this can perhaps be solved, I just don't know where to start this trail of things =) hopefully that will give me enough to get moving.
[17:08] <unop> dmsuperman, as long as both your ssh server and client can support X .. getting X apps to work over ssh is a breeze. ssh -X user@server 'command to start GUI application'
[17:08] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: how do you figure i didn't? he asked about probs with usb storage, and then you commented that you didn't have a problem assuming they are the right filesystem. what i'm saying is that, since most partitions are fat, ntfs, or ext3, filesystem is rarely something to consider
[17:08] <g[r]eek> |Debian|: I thought *maybe* the drivers that have been installed for the network card are not copmatiable but then ifconfig wouldn't work right?
[17:08] <danand_> dmsuperman_ - check your server allows X forwarding - look in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Check that you have "X11Forwarding yes". Then you should just be able to ssh -X ipaddress ...
[17:08] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: go back to sleep
[17:08] <lesshaste> can anyone play http://www.aftenposten.no/webtv/?id=9511&cat=22 ?
[17:09] <dmsuperman_> unop, danand_: will that work even with Putty on windows?
[17:09] <|Debian|> g[r]eek:  true
[17:09] <sgtmattbaker> my external drive is now showing no partitions and is "uninitialized", Windows XP disk management or gparted can't initialize it
[17:09] <unop> dmsuperman, windows does not understand X .. so no
[17:09] <danand_> dmsuperman - no :(
[17:09] <sluimers> hello! I have a new monitor/lcdtv for my computer and Ubuntu seems to have problems with that as in I can no longer get into gnome.. I'm in the terminal looking at xorg.conf, any suggestions?
[17:09] <dmsuperman_> unop: is there a client that i could use to use x?
[17:09] <unop> dmsuperman, although you can connect to the server from within cygwin and that handles X
[17:10] <c0kit0_2007> hello guys
[17:10] <c0kit0_2007> anybody can help me with a compilation issue?
[17:10] <DPic> the wiki returns an error when trying to edit a page that doesn't yet exist
[17:10] <dmsuperman_> unop: prefer not cygwin, i need a light tool that i can bring with me because there's like 300 computers in the school
[17:10] <unop> dmsuperman, why don't you use VNC if you are connecting from windows?
[17:10] <dmsuperman_> unop: i didn't even think of that haha
[17:10] <|Debian|> is there another way to get system uptime ... aprt from /proc/uptime ... i don't understand the output
[17:11] <sluimers> hello! I have a new monitor (samsung lcdtv LW20M21CP) for my computer and Ubuntu seems to have problems with that as in I can no longer get into gnome.. I'm in the terminal looking at xorg.conf, what to do?
[17:11] <Seveas> |Debian|, the uptime command
[17:11] <unop> |Debian|,  uptime
[17:11] <|Debian|> sweet
[17:11] <|Debian|> didnt think of that
[17:11] <|Debian|> lol
[17:12] <geirha> g[r]eek: are you certain the cable is properly connected, and at the right port? Check that the cable works on a different computer. Just to rule out hardware faults
[17:12] <francesco> IndyGunFreak: What happens when I plug an internal DVD burner to the PC. What happens when I Ubuntu starts?
[17:12] <IndyGunFreak> francesco: it should recognize it and you can use it.
[17:12] <francesco> IndyGunFreak: Automatically?
[17:12] <IndyGunFreak> francesco: yes
[17:12] <sluimers> I have a new monitor (samsung lcdtv LW20M21CP) for my computer and Ubuntu seems to have problems with that as in I can no longer get into gnome.. I'm in the terminal looking at xorg.conf, what to do?
[17:13] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: did it automatically open xorg.conf?
[17:13] <sluimers> no
[17:13] <DPic> anybody know what's up with the ubuntu wiki? can't edit new pages
[17:13] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: try backing up your xorg.conf and reconfiguring it
[17:13] <sluimers> I'm in one of those black terminal thingies
[17:13] <g[r]eek> geirha: Yup the cable is ok I've swapped it with the one I'm using on this laptop
[17:13] <cristiantp> Enter text here...ciao a tutti
[17:13] <g[r]eek> It's definately not the cable nor the hub
[17:13] <Lifeisfunny> I've done the 'dmesg | grep -i nvagp' and got no response ... and the I got the message from the straight 'dmesg' command about "tainting the kernel" for nVidia fastwrites,  but when doing the command 'cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status' would anyone know why it's not responding 'enabled'   ?
[17:13] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: try "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup.conf6c"
[17:13] <RenatoSilva> someone is skilled on zope/plone and want to talk in private?
[17:14] <kippy> Hello Guys, i have a problem that my swap space utlisation is always 0, I think there is a some problem in configuration how can i check it out?
[17:14] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: Then, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[17:14] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: that'll walk you through configuring your xorg.conf automatically. you can usually just hit enter, enter, enter all the way through
[17:14] <unop> RenatoSilva, you should look for a zope/plone channel, you'll have better luck there
[17:14] <sluimers> I have copied the backup to xorg.conf already and sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg gives an error about some battery
[17:14] <David_> there are #zope and #plone channels RenatoSilva
[17:15] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: I'm not familiar with the -phigh argument, what's it do?
[17:15] <theunixgeek_> What's the Turkish channel?
[17:15] <lesshaste> can anyone play http://www.aftenposten.no/webtv/?id=9511&cat=22 ?
[17:15] <lartza_> I can't add launchers to AWN
[17:15] <unop> dmsuperman, -phigh only ask you about important questions
[17:15] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: try running without the -phigh argument? i never specified it when i ran it for me
[17:15] <RenatoSilva> unop: i know, but they don't say anything
[17:15] <dmsuperman_> unop: oh
[17:15] <sluimers> okay
[17:15] <dimas_> how is it to decompress a .tar.gz file on the terminal?
[17:15] <dmsuperman_> hmm
[17:15] <RenatoSilva> David_: i know, but they don't say anything
[17:15] <unop> dmsuperman, man dpkg-reconfigure will tell you more
[17:15] <dmsuperman_> dimas_: an obnoxious tar command
[17:15] <kippy> anyone knows how to fix the swap space utilisation?
[17:16] <LeGreffi3R> dmsuperman_> the opposite of -plow (will ask you almost everything)
[17:16] <sluimers> Should I use framebuffer device interface?
[17:16] <unop> dimas_, tar zxf file.tgz
[17:16] <jking_> dimas: tar xzvf <tarfile>.tar.gz
[17:16] <dmsuperman_> yeah that
[17:16] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: try whatever it has selected by default
[17:16] <theunixgeek_> !turkish
[17:16] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[17:16] <theunixgeek_> :)
[17:16] <tardtard> is there a room for the ps3 distro yet?
[17:16] <dimas_> jking thanks
[17:16] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: i chose no to get mine to work, but i think it says it's "safe" to turn it on
[17:16] <jking_> no problem
[17:17] <dmsuperman_> LeGreffi3R: thanks :D
[17:17] <Morgan> yeejaa
[17:17] <Morgan> mirc's lagged
[17:17] <Morgan> :p
[17:17] <lartza_> I can't add launchers to AWN. How to fix this?
[17:17] <Morgan> 1,2k of users :|
[17:17] <sluimers> dmsuperman_, I still get that battery error after choosing yes for emulating the 3 button mouse
[17:17] <kippy> Guys the swap space utilisation in always 0, what could be the problem?
[17:17] <dmsuperman_> how can i add programs to start when i boot into xserver?
[17:17] <tardtard> total linux noob here...  I killed my mouse use on PSUbuntu and I can get everything else to work...
[17:18] <IndyGunFreak> kippy: maybe nothing, most pc's don't access swap that often
[17:18] <unop> kippy, it's not always a problem .. the less utilization is the better
[17:18] <sluimers> Error inserting battery (lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko
[17:18] <IndyGunFreak> kippy: are you using an old pc w/ very limited resources?
[17:18] <sluimers> : (No such device)
[17:18] <dmsuperman_> sluimers: i'm not an expert in xorg.conf, my only suggestion is try selecting no in emulating 3 button mouse :S
[17:19] <unop> kippy, what does /proc/swaps have to say about swap usage?
[17:19] <sluimers> okay
[17:19] <kippy> but i have never seen it ever being used, + the system has only 512 MB ram so not much.
[17:19] <sailaway85> hi
[17:19] <kippy> unop, it shows no utilisation
[17:19] <IndyGunFreak> kippy: if you have 512mb of ram, its pretty unlikely you'll use swap all that often as a normal desktop user
[17:20] <lartza_> I can't add launchers to AWN. How to fix this?
[17:20] <IndyGunFreak> kippy: i have Debian Etch that had half that much ran(recently upgraded to 512, cuz i got it cheap), and even at 256, i don't recall it ever accessing swap
[17:20] <luisgmarine> Hello can anyone tell me how to hook up my HDTV to my Ubuntu Laptop?
[17:20] <c0kit0_2007> Hey people, i was trying to install a driver for my webcam (logitech quickcam messenger) The driver comes into "qc-usb-messenger-1.7.tar.gz" from http://home.mag.cx
[17:21] <IndyGunFreak> luisgmarine: you generally do it via a hd cable
[17:21] <unop> kippy, you should be happy then, you're running an efficient system :)
[17:21] <dmsuperman_> !dualhead | luisgmarine
[17:21] <ubotu> luisgmarine: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:21] <jking_> luis do you have an hd tuner (usb or pcmcia)
[17:21] <kippy> then i guess its alright, but there was problem in swap creation at the time of installation so i had to create it afterwards and used swapon to set it as swap
[17:21] <luisgmarine> I have my HDTV hooked to my laptop through an HDMI cable
[17:21] <luisgmarine> but no image
[17:22] <IndyGunFreak> kippy: i agree w/ unop unless you're noticing severe slowdowns, etc, thats the only time swap is going to be accessed..
[17:22] <c0kit0_2007> when a made "make all"... the compiler sends me an error ...like this... error2: cant find quickcam.ko, the file or directory doesnt exist
[17:22] <luisgmarine> I have a cool laptop that had HDMI port-out
[17:22] <jking_> anyone: does ubuntu have support for hdmi ?
[17:22] <dmsuperman_> !dualhead | luisgmarine
[17:22] <ubotu> luisgmarine: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[17:22] <dmsuperman_> try that guide
[17:22] <dmsuperman_> jking_: i'm _kind of_ sure it does
[17:22] <unop> kippy, if you really want your swap to be used regularly (which you should never need to do) you can increase swappiness in the kernel
[17:22] <HanzZ> hi... I have next problem with dhclient... I want to use my own DNS server, but dhcp client rewrites /etc/resolv.conf everytime. I have set read-only permisions for this file, but it's still the same... how can tell to dhcp client that i want to use my own dns server?
[17:23] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: you can PM ubotu triggers rather than just running them over and over and flooding the chanel.
[17:23] <kippy> IndyGunFreak, unop, well the only thing i have in mind about the whole issue is this that i created it manually after the installation , so could be that its misconfigured or something
[17:23] <IndyGunFreak> lol, swappiness.
[17:23] <sailaway85> I have an ati 2600hd card...ever time I try to install the drivers I end up reinstalling the whole damn system
[17:23] <jking_> ok had not really investigated hdmi just assumed no
[17:23] <dmsuperman_> jking_: i think i remember seeing in one of the guides i was using
[17:23] <jking_> should have realized its loomix it doesn't afraid of anything
[17:23] <unop> kippy, no, if swapon -s  lists a swap device .. then swap is configured alright
[17:23] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: I'd hardly call saying something a second time that was obviously overlooked "running them over and over adn flooding the channel"
[17:23] <IndyGunFreak> kippy: yup, what unop said.
[17:24] <kippy> unop, well no such hobbies!! just want to make sure that everything is configured alright
[17:24] <lartza_> Why can't I add launchers toAWN?
[17:24] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: then use their name and highlight it to them and they won't over look it.
[17:24] <unop> kippy, it is :) what's so hard to beleive? :)
[17:24] <Adys> wine somehow lost association with .exe, is there a way to put it back?
[17:24] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: I did...
[17:24] <IndyGunFreak> then he likely didn't over look it.
[17:24] <luisgmarine> ok what is that dual-head stuff suppose to say?
[17:24] <IndyGunFreak> or if he did, he's an idiot
[17:24] <kippy> okay guys!! then guess linux is a lot better than windows!! coz there i had memory issues!!
[17:25] <unop> kippy, i have 256MB RAM and only use about 10MB in swap at most times .. so it says something about when you have 512MB
[17:25] <IndyGunFreak> kippy:  its just a matter of learn ing
[17:25] <David_> kippy,  yes it usually is
[17:25] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: An unsurprisingly eletist attitutde helps nobody
[17:25] <dmsuperman_> elitist*
[17:25] <sailaway85> I have an ati 2600hd card...ever time I try to install the drivers I end up reinstalling the whole damn system
[17:25] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: true, but if i need your opinion on that, i'll ask.
[17:25] <sailaway85> can someone help
[17:25] <kippy> Okey Tokey Guys!!
[17:25] <LollinopiL> how can I disable the CPU's alarm ? ? ? ? everytime I close an open office document without saving it i heard that sound !!! can anyone help me ?
[17:25] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: and if i need your opinion as far as my trying to help others, i'll ask
[17:25] <IndyGunFreak> sailaway85: lol, how are you trying to install them?
[17:26] <sluimers> !patience
[17:26] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: i don't care if you're helping, you're just flooding the channel with stupid bot factoids when you can just pm them.
[17:26] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:26] <unop> LollinopiL, see if this command turns it off.  xset b off
[17:26] <Adys> LollinopiL:  System -> preferences -> sound -> system beep
[17:26] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: and i don't care what you think, so all's well on my end ^.^
[17:26] <IndyGunFreak> good
[17:26] <unop> dmsuperman, IndyGunFreak - come on - where is your ubuntu spirit ? :)
[17:26] <HanzZ> got it :)
[17:27] <LollinopiL> Adys YEAH
[17:27] <IndyGunFreak> unop: i'm fine, just can't deal with idiost to well this morning
[17:27] <jking_> <== has spirit yes he does
[17:27] <kitty13kitty> anyone know where i can get help with vmnet/vmmon kernel modules not loading?
[17:27] <sailaway85> Thanks Indy Ive tried ati site and the new drivers from numurious sites.. what am i missing ?
[17:27] <dmsuperman_> luisgmarine: anyway, dual head is a way to use a second monitor and extend your desktop to it
[17:27] <unop> IndyGunFreak, that's like me every morning :)
[17:27] <kippy> unop, there is another problem with sounds, i can play music files but even after configuring system>pref>sounds i dont get sounds on sound events, just get the default system beep
[17:27] <TerrorismSux> caturday thread on 4chan.org is getting hammered /b/
[17:27] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | sailaway85 try looking here
[17:27] <ubotu> sailaway85 try looking here: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:28] <dmsuperman_> luisgmarine: so what you'd want to do is use your hdtv as a second monitor, and use that guide to set it up
[17:28] <unop> kippy, i dont use gnome - so i couldnt help you much there, maybe the others can suggest something
[17:28] <sailaway85> thanks again
[17:28] <glaxo> Running beta hardy heron, when doing a sources check I receive the following; "could not download all repository indexes" - Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[17:28] <glaxo> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[17:28] <glaxo> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[17:28] <glaxo> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[17:28] <FloodBot1> glaxo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <IndyGunFreak> wtf?
[17:28] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[17:28] <kitty13kitty> holy spam
[17:28] <jking_> hi flood meet mop
[17:28] <IndyGunFreak> no, not spam, just an idiot
[17:28] <dmsuperman_> luisgmarine: there's also a guide, if you google "ubuntu dual monitor" on the ubuntu support forums is another thread that may also help
[17:29] <unop> glaxo, :s why do that?
[17:29] <LjL> !language
[17:29] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:29] <kippy> thanks unop, come on other gnome users.. some help??
[17:29] <LjL> !feeding the troll
[17:29] <ubotu> The above mess was caused by someone who thought it was funny (they're gone now). Please ignore it completely, since discussing it and making a fuss will only make them think they've reached their "fun" goal.
[17:29] <glaxo> pasted into the wrong window, apologies guys and girls
[17:29] <IndyGunFreak> jking_: lol, i love it, they should be Mops as opposed to floodbots
[17:29] <dmsuperman_> glaxo: haha
[17:29] <sluimers> !heron
[17:29] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:29] <Adys> kippy: I didnt follow, what is the problem?
[17:29] <_Silhouette_> Hello, I'm trying to boot into my linux install, but when I boot up my computer (dell dimension 4100) it gives me the message: invalid boot diskette. please insert a valid boot diskette in drive A:\. I've disabled the disk drive in the BIOS and I've even removed the physical drive, but the message still appears. How can I fix it?
[17:29] <jking_> lol
[17:29] <kippy> problem with sounds, i can play music files but even after configuring system>pref>sounds i dont get sounds on sound events, just get the default system beep
[17:29] <kitty13kitty> i wonder where the "disable pasting" option is in xchat...
[17:30] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: remove the floppy disk from your floppy?
[17:30] <alecw1> I installed git via apt-get (sudo apt-get install git), but it doesn't seem like git is installed. I tried 'git config', and the console says: "bash: git: command not found". Can someone help me fix this?
[17:30] <Jimbo> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62949/
[17:30] <Adys> kippy: which version of ubuntu?
[17:30] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman: there is none, and I've removed the entire drive!
[17:30] <kippy> gutsy
[17:30] <LjL> ok let me count... there were four (4) lines of flooding, and at least five (5) lines of commenting about them
[17:30] <LjL> i say nothing, make your sums.
[17:30] <kippy> *adys, i use gutsy
[17:30] <David_> rehash alecw1 ?
[17:30] <kitty13kitty> _Silhouette_ is this on the same machine you're on right now or a different one?
[17:30] <charles|64> ok mildly weird graphical issue
[17:30] <hj> hi, I have atheros adapter, athpci module is loaded, but no wlan0 interface is avaivable
[17:30] <alecw1> David_: what?
[17:30] <_Silhouette_> kitty13kitty: different one
[17:31] <luisgmarine> is dual-head a package?  I can't seem to find it int he repos.  I just want HDTV hooked up to my ubuntu laptop
[17:31] <jking_> not every one is running irc full screen it was almost a dozen lines for me
[17:31] <David_> have u tried rehash alecw1 ?
[17:31] <glaxo> on hardy heron when doing an update / checking sources the following is received - "could not download all repository indexes" see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62950/ for more details
[17:31] <IndyGunFreak> hj: which atheros device?
[17:31] <hj> how can i turn it on
[17:31] <charles|64> when ever I switch users on the system the screen gos white but you can enter in a password and it will log you in
[17:31] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: sorry, i saw the first message and jumped to conclusions. what's your bios boot order? are you sure it's booting from your hard drive first?
[17:31] <alecw1> David_: I don't know what that is or how to do that
[17:31] <David_> alecw1, type 'rehash' as a command
[17:31] <Jimbo> I can't install openssh I get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62949/
[17:31] <kitty13kitty> _Silhouette_, have you removed all other bootable devices from the computer/bios boot sequence?
[17:31] <dmsuperman_> luisgmarine: no, it's not a package. It's a setup, and requires you (usually) to edit your xorg.conf file to set up
[17:31] <charles|64> any Ideas
[17:31] <hj> dmsuper AR5006EG
[17:31] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman: yes, there is no fdd in the boot order
[17:32] <alecw1> David_: bash: rehash: command not found
[17:32] <_Silhouette_> kitty13kitty: just my cd-rom drive
[17:32] <_Silhouette_> and my hdd
[17:32] <IndyGunFreak> hj: have you tried madwifi?  it generally works better w/ atheros
[17:32] <_Silhouette_> no fdd
[17:32] <kitty13kitty> _Silhouette_, is there a cd in the drive ?
[17:32] <_Silhouette_> no
[17:32] <rausb0> alecw1: hash -r
[17:32] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: try putting the hard drive at the very top, then 1 by 1 put any other boot devices at top to see if something messes up
[17:32] <abc> ciao a tutti
[17:32] <IndyGunFreak> hj: is that an acer computer by chance?
[17:32] <hj> Indy: Ive tried but it didnt want to compile
[17:32] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman: it's messed up whatever I put the order as. I will try just booting from HD
[17:32] <kitty13kitty> _Silhouette_, ok, have you setup grub or similar on the system yet? do you have a cdr+ that you can make bootable images with?
[17:33] <David_> alecw1, oh sorry try hash -r instead :p
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> hj: then you didn't do it correctly..
[17:33] <hj> indygun: yep acer
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> hj: 5315?
[17:33] <_Silhouette_> kitty13kitty: no grub. I've made and installed linux already
[17:33] <alecw1> rausb0: David_: ok, executed. I tried rerunning git and same error.
[17:33] <hj> indy: downloaded, extracted and make
[17:33] <kitty13kitty> which flavor linux are you using?
[17:33] <_Silhouette_> ubuntu
[17:33] <hj> indy: yep
[17:33] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: what are you using for your bootloader then?
[17:33] <_Silhouette_> it's happened with my old ME OS though
[17:33] <koffordet> Where is internet explorer???
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> hj: hang on, i have a link that will help you, the problem is, the kernel misdetects that device
[17:33] <jking_> HA
[17:34] <IndyGunFreak> hj: its actually an ar0007
[17:34] <dmsuperman_> koffordet: internet exporer for ubuntu? or windows?
[17:34] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: I dunno what a bootloader is. I just know this has happened even with my old OS and it hasn't gone away
[17:34] <kitty13kitty> _Silhouette_, does the system boot at all or does it just come to "please insert boot disk" ?
[17:34] <IndyGunFreak> hj: but you will need to compile madwifi.
[17:34] <_Silhouette_> I'm not even sure the HD in the BIOS is the right one
[17:34] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: If you haven't installed grub, that's your problem. you need to install grub, it's a bootloader
[17:34] <koffordet> For ubuntu 6.06
[17:34] <dmsuperman_> !bootloader | _Silhouette_
[17:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootloader - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:34] <_Silhouette_> kitty13kitty: it just says that after the initial post messages or logo
[17:34] <dmsuperman_> darn
[17:34] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman: I can't access my hard drive, though. It just gives me that message first.
[17:35] <kitty13kitty> _Silhouette_, do you have the live cd for ubuntu ?
[17:35] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: well anyway, a bootloader is what your computer boots first. it decides after that how to boto your operating system
[17:35] <glaxo> on hardy heron when doing an update / checking sources the following is received - "could not download all repository indexes" see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62950/ for more details
[17:35] <_Silhouette_> kitty13kitty: alternate.
[17:35] <hj> indy:ok, i can try let me see this link, its a progress, ive spent few hours already on this
[17:35] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: put in your livecd, boot into the live ubuntu
[17:35] <Jimbo> How do I clear screen in terminal?
[17:35] <RoAkSoAx> Jimbo, clear
[17:35] <jking_> type clear
[17:35] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: it won't work. It goes to a blank pink screen
[17:35] <blind> Having some problems... when I boot up, I have to reinstall the nvidia driver. Whatever, Not a big deal.. Now, when I restart the gdm.. I just get a black screen and nothing else works.
[17:35] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: and install grub. google "ubuntu install grub" and i think the first result is a good quick guide how to do it
[17:35] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: I can't install grub if I can't get to my HDD.
[17:35] <luisgmarine> I'm not even seeing an image when I mess around with the screen menu
[17:36] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: that's odd. have you tried booting to the livecd's graphic safe mode?
[17:36] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: yes
[17:36] <_Silhouette_> doesn't work
[17:36] <beast> hello, can anyone tell me the shell command to install the flashplayer
[17:36] <sailaway85> forgot to mention I'm using hardy  cause 7.1 wont boot with my ati 2600hd . The site hasnt a reference to hardy  which hasnt got a restricted driver manager
[17:36] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: how about downloading the linux restore cd? i'm not sure where it is offhand
[17:36] <kitty13kitty> _Silhouette_, you'll want to get a livecd, they make some minimal disks for other flavors, (as small as 40Mb) and boot your system with it, and check fdisk to see if you've partitioned your drive, and use grub or lilo to install a boot manager
[17:36] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: but you can do it from the linux restore cd
[17:36] <IndyGunFreak> hj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4219190#post4219190
[17:36] <jrib> sailaway85: it does, but you are in the wrong room.  Hardy support is in 8.04
[17:36] <IndyGunFreak> hj: those instructions are quite clear
[17:36] <jrib> sailaway85: oops, hardy suuport is in #ubuntu+1 I mean
[17:37] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: http://sysresccd.org
[17:37] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: get that, and try reinstalling grub from there
[17:37] <_Silhouette_> okay....I just tried with only the IDE HD in the boot order, and same message.
[17:37] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: why do I need to restore linux? I haven't even gotten into it
[17:37] <David_> alecw1, don't know git but there is a command git-config not 'git config'
[17:38] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[17:38] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: you aren't restoring linux, but the linux restore cd allows you to access a commandline
[17:38] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: from that commandline, you can install grub, which you need installed to boot into ubuntu
[17:38] <blind> Having some problems... when I boot up, I have to reinstall the nvidia driver. Whatever, Not a big deal.. Now, when I restart the gdm.. I just get a black screen and nothing else works.
[17:38] <Jimbo> Isn't aptget using the default KDE proxy?
[17:38] <alecw1> David_: I found the problem, the 'git' in the repository is actually a different program than what I'm looking for. I'm looking for the VCS (like SVN or Bazaar) git, not the other one. It's really git-core.
[17:38] <alecw1> I think.
[17:38] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: without grub, you have no bootloader, meaning you can't boot into your OS
[17:38] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: oh....doesn't the alternate CD have a commandline?
[17:38] <crdlb> alecw1: correct
[17:38] <bo-dick> can i mount a network drive in ubuntu?
[17:39] <David_> k thanks alecw1 i'll bear that in mind if ever i need to use git ;)
[17:39] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: sure, any method. i didn't know you had that, and you mentioned the livecd didn't work.
[17:39] <IndyGunFreak> hj: did you get that link?
[17:39] <bo-dick> target machine is windows vista
[17:39] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: just get into a commandline that will allow you to install grub :D
[17:39] <beast>  hello, can anyone tell me the shell command to install the flashplayer???
[17:39] <leafwiz> Hi, anyone here tried to install ubuntu on a nVidia raid 1 ?
[17:39] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: how do I install grub? it has no internet
[17:39] <leafwiz> I get grub error 17
[17:39] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[17:40] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: it says to use the livecd, but you can use any cd that lets you access a commandline
[17:40] <_Silhouette_> dmsuperman_: is grub already on the CD?
[17:40] <guillem> hola
[17:40] <dmsuperman_> _Silhouette_: yes
[17:40] <guillem_> hola
[17:41] <kitty13kitty> guillem, there is a spanish channel somewhere
[17:41] <arvind_khadri> beast, i dont think there is any available
[17:41] <bo-dick> is it possible to mount network ntfs drives?
[17:41] <guillem> thanks
[17:41] <dmsuperman_> bo-dick: yes
[17:41] <kitty13kitty> bo-dick, if you enable it in your kernel :D
[17:41] <didy> finally!!!
[17:41] <dmsuperman_> bo-dick: i don't know how particularly offhand, but i know it's possible
[17:42] <beast> ok
[17:42] <arvind_khadri> beast, what do u want to play??
[17:42] <bo-dick> would be convenient
[17:42] <bo-dick> maybe i should read up
[17:42] <dmsuperman_> bo-dick: very much :D
[17:42] <bo-dick> thanks anyway
[17:43] <dmsuperman_> bo-dick: you could also try using samba
[17:43] <TerrorismSux> Ok ive enabled the restricted nvidia driver... i know there is another step i have to take
[17:43] <TerrorismSux> is it the /etc/X11/xorg.conf one?
[17:43] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: what are you trying to achieve?
[17:44] <TerrorismSux> My 22" monitor to display at 1680x1050 and play games
[17:44] <kitty13kitty> TerrorismSux, install windows :P
[17:44] <jking_> lol
[17:44] <dmsuperman_> yeah, good luck getting any games to run in linux :P
[17:44] <IndyGunFreak> kitty13kitty: lol pwned!
[17:44] <TerrorismSux> if you can tell me how i can get it back on this hard drive i will
[17:44] <TerrorismSux> my windows xp disk wont install on this HD anymore
[17:44] <self_up> hi all, i have ubuntu on my laptop, which notifies me from time to time that updates are available - but how do i make sure i'm up to date on my ubuntu server (remote vps)?
[17:44] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: create a partition, insert windows xp disk, install
[17:44] <TerrorismSux> it freezes after i hit "press any key to boot from cd"
[17:44] <IndyGunFreak> TerrorismSux: why not?
[17:45] <Jimbo> How do I make apt-get connect through a proxy?
[17:45] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: try another window cd
[17:45] <TerrorismSux> i only have 1 Windows XP Professional disk
[17:45] <TerrorismSux> i have 22 hard drives tho
[17:45] <arvind_khadri> TerrorismSux, why dont u use Wine
[17:45] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: download one :D
[17:45] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: or try one of thoe otehr drives
[17:45] <TerrorismSux> LOL im trying to use linux
[17:45] <sikava> hw can i download yahoomessenger and make it work in my ubuntu sytem?ive tryd n  its not working
[17:45] <TerrorismSux> i did dmsuperman
[17:45] <TerrorismSux> it worked
[17:45] <jking_> Terror | try g4l
[17:45] <jking_> or ghost 4 linux
[17:45] <TerrorismSux> i have xp on another drive, but this is my fastest one
[17:46] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: linux doesn't run windows games very well. it's the one reason i even have windows installed anymore
[17:46] <kitty13kitty> TerrorismSux, i'm not sure on the restricted drivers for ubuntu, but you can just use the dpkg -configure X11 or whatever it is to configure your video for the new driver
[17:46] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: get another windows xp disk, and try it
[17:46] <IndyGunFreak> sikava: is there a reason you can't use Pidgin?
[17:46]  * kitty13kitty looks at manual
[17:46] <dmsuperman_> kitty13kitty: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[17:46] <kitty13kitty> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:46] <Scunizi> sikava, y-messenger won't work in ubuntu or any other linux
[17:47] <kitty13kitty> yeah as he was saying
[17:47] <arvind_khadri> sikava, u can use wine ,but it doesnt work properly
[17:47] <TerrorismSux> is there any way to format my HD with FAT32 and have the xp disk recognize the drive again?
[17:47] <dmsuperman_> sikava: plus, pidgin is LOADS better than any of the other clients
[17:47] <TerrorismSux> i have a ubuntu pen drive
[17:47] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: isnt' ther a project for Yahoo messenger in Linux?.. i can't remember the name of it though
[17:47] <cow_2001> i'm trying to connect to a ubuntu machine with "vncviewer -via..."
[17:47] <RyanPrior> sikava: Yahoo messenger is supported on Linux. Scunizi - that's not true.
[17:47] <dmsuperman_> TerrorismSux: sure, just format it.
[17:47] <TerrorismSux> ill try to reformat brb
[17:47] <kitty13kitty> TerrorismSux, what hd setup are you using, raid/scsi ?
[17:47] <dmsuperman_> Terrasque: he started formatting!
[17:47] <didy> how do i automount my ntfs partitions with full read/write permission everytime i start ubuntu??
[17:47] <dmsuperman_> :O
[17:47] <arvind_khadri> dmsuperman, i think kopete is more better,as it supports cams
[17:47] <jking_> Bye Terrorism
[17:47] <dmsuperman_> =P
[17:47] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: i think sikava died anyways, he hasn't responded to anything since his first question..lol
[17:48] <kitty13kitty> i love it when people just goto format as the first response
[17:48] <dmsuperman_> arvind_khadri: not a cam guy, so no issue for me :P
[17:48] <sikava> so hw do i go about it? as in do i google for yahoomessenger or wat?
[17:48] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: Oh well then. :-)
[17:48] <IndyGunFreak> kitty13kitty: its the windows way of fixing things.
[17:48] <cow_2001> it just would not work
[17:48] <dmsuperman_> kitty13kitty: it was his decision, not min
[17:48] <arvind_khadri> didy u need to edit ur mtab
[17:48] <kitty13kitty> didy, use the fstab
[17:48] <dmsuperman_> mien*
[17:48] <cow_2001> channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection timed out
[17:48] <meoblast001> hello
[17:48] <glaxo> on hardy heron when doing an update / checking sources the following is received - "could not download all repository indexes" see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62950/ for more details
[17:48] <kakoonia> someone know where can i find the cursor library?
[17:48] <RyanPrior> sikava: http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php
[17:48] <jking_> sikava try meebo.com
[17:48] <RyanPrior> sikava: Download the Debian package.
[17:48] <meoblast001> does anyone know what a good GTK designer is that can write directly to C++ files
[17:48] <stefg> !hardy | glaxo
[17:48] <ubotu> glaxo: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:48] <IndyGunFreak> sikava: just respond, please!
[17:49] <dmsuperman_> didy: more specifically, use ntfs-3g in your /etc/fstab
[17:49] <meoblast001> ?
[17:49] <glaxo> thanks
[17:49] <didy> mtab or fstab? can u be detailed?
[17:49]  * IndyGunFreak hates meebo
[17:49] <J-Unit> i have wallpapoz installed and i changed settings to which pics i want it to show but it wont actually change wallpapers wen i switch workspaces
[17:49] <arvind_khadri> didy both
[17:49] <didy> any guide?
[17:49] <Scunizi> RyanPrior, IndyGunFreak there are projects in linux that will connect to ymess. but using the download client for windows made for Yahoo Mess. doesn't work. Pidgin works and there may be others
[17:49] <kitty13kitty> the fstab file will have comments
[17:49] <RyanPrior> jking_: Meebo is not a proper instant messenger. It doesn't have half the features one would expect. It has its place, but not as a replacement for all desktop IMs.
[17:49] <dmsuperman_> !ntfs-3g | didy
[17:49] <ubotu> didy: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[17:49] <kitty13kitty> it shows you examples for plenty of drive options and such
[17:49] <r00723r0> Hardy's officially released on the 24th right?
[17:49] <glaxo> thanks stefg
[17:49] <slimjimflim> anybody know how to change the sound device for the non-free flash package?
[17:49] <dubphil> Hello, I have a very very strange behavior with my network : I have a server A that is forwarded the internet connections to the computer B. The both interfaces are Broadcoms Tigon3 Gigabit controlers, and hold your mouse, when I download a big file from Internet, I reach about 2Mb/s but when I use scp or nfs to copy a big file over A and B I don't get over 1 Mb/s, is this something possible ?
[17:49] <didy> thanks baby!!!!!!!
[17:49] <slimjimflim> anybody know how to change the sound device for the non-free flash package?
[17:49] <FloodBot1> slimjimflim: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:49] <RyanPrior> didy: You can mount NTFS drives on fstab using ntfs-3g.
[17:49] <slimjimflim> oops sorry
[17:49] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: no, there's a yahoo client for LInux, i jsut can't remember the name of it,s tarts with a G i think
[17:50] <sikava> am on meebo.com
[17:50] <dmsuperman_> RyanPrior: I doubt they'd expect many people to use it as a replacement, but i'm using it right now from windows since i didn't want to install pidgin for a single use
[17:50] <arvind_khadri> !hardy | r00723r0
[17:50] <ubotu> r00723r0: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:50] <RyanPrior> !hardy | r00723r0
[17:50] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, available directly from Yahoo?  like I said.. there are other projects made for linux but not by yahoo
[17:50] <IndyGunFreak> sikava: now that you've woke up, why can't you use Pidgin?..
[17:50] <r00723r0> Sweet.
[17:50] <jking_> dmsuperman that is the exact reason i suggested it
[17:50] <sikava> so ijuz google pidgin?
[17:50] <kakoonia> someone know where can i find the cursor library?
[17:50] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: i didnm't sayi t was made by yahoo.
[17:51] <dmsuperman_> sikava: "sudo apt-get install pidgin"
[17:51] <IndyGunFreak> sikava: no, it should have been installed w/ your setup.
[17:51] <arvind_khadri> sikava, ehich ubuntu are u using??
[17:51] <kitty13kitty> dubphil, do you get that through put from the internet to computer b?
[17:51] <RyanPrior> sikava: If a person is used to using Y!IM, and it's supported on Linux, then why should they be pushed to another IM?
[17:51] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: it wasn't with mine by default
[17:51] <sikava> linux
[17:51] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: then you had an amazing install.
[17:51] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, you're not thinking of Gaim are you?  because that IS Pidgin.. .. that was my original point.. sounded like he was trying to get the "real" Yahoo Messenger to work
[17:51] <IndyGunFreak> i've installed gutsy on no less than 30 machines, and everytime, pidgin was there with the new install.
[17:51] <dubphil> kitty13kitty: yes I didnot mention that all the measures are done from the computer B
[17:51] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: no
[17:51] <jking_> which version of ubuntu == Linux w00t
[17:51] <arvind_khadri> sikava, is it 7.04 or 7.10??
[17:51] <blakis21> how do i add more resolution options
[17:51] <dmsuperman_> IndyGunFreak: my 7.10 disk is like 2 months old, not sure why it wasn't with it but i had to manually install it :s
[17:52] <kitty13kitty> dubphil, is computer A NT based?
[17:52] <IndyGunFreak> whatever
[17:52] <sikava> 7.10
[17:52] <IndyGunFreak> spread that to someone who doesn't know better
[17:52] <dubphil> no it is a debian etch
[17:52] <RyanPrior> jking_: All Ubuntu versions are Linux.
[17:52] <jking_> Duh
[17:52] <arvind_khadri> sikava, pidgin comes default in 7.10
[17:52] <IndyGunFreak> sikava: you should have pidgin installd, Applications/Internet
[17:52] <dmsuperman_> please remove the stick from your ass
[17:52] <RyanPrior> jking_: Why ask if it's a "duh
[17:52] <IndyGunFreak> dmsuperman: it will be removed when you are
[17:52] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, you're tinking of this maybe? http://jymsg9.sourceforge.net/
[17:52] <blakis21> how do i add more resolution options
[17:52] <RyanPrior> !language | dmsuperman
[17:52] <ubotu> dmsuperman: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:52] <kitty13kitty> dubphil well, you might be running into either you setup iptables to throttle your traffic, or your machine is being loaded down when transfering
[17:53] <sikava> application/internet then?
[17:53] <IndyGunFreak> no, i was thinkign it started with a G..
[17:53] <jking_> I didn't ask i was simply commenting on the answer
[17:53] <neil> hi, can someone help me with a problem i am having installing my NVIDIA GFX card please
[17:53] <arvind_khadri> sikava then pidgin
[17:53] <IndyGunFreak> sikava: do you see Pidgin Instant Messenger there?
[17:53] <IndyGunFreak> lol, jesus
[17:53] <RyanPrior> !nvidia | neil
[17:53] <ubotu> neil: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:53] <gurpreet> which one is wireless interface? wifi0 or ath0? both are there on my machine
[17:53] <Helpsys> aloha
[17:53] <Lifeisfunny> man, I saw that wallpaper in the screenshots of hardy heron ....... I hope the give the option to not install that !!!!!!!!!!!!  sheeesh.    I bet, that alone is enough to cause a crash __  scary- that heron might cause an epileptic attack.
[17:53] <neil> well the problem is more todo with the drivers clashing
[17:53] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[17:53] <dubphil> kitty13kitty: I have an Iptables scripts on computer B, I will look at it thanks a lot for the hint !
[17:54] <Gibb> how do I configure the weather panel on the top bar to use a proxy? anyone know?
[17:54] <taker> hello, how do u install nusphere phped on ubuntu?
[17:54] <dmsuperman_> gurpreet: I would imagine that wifi0 is it =P
[17:54] <kitty13kitty> dubphil, you can also try other ways of sharing the files
[17:54] <Orbixx|Mob> I have a laptop without an optical drive. How would I get Ubuntu on it?
[17:54] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, yes.. pidgin is always there .. never said any different... and it works.. did you look at the link I gave?  just another alternative..
[17:54] <kitty13kitty> dubphil, if you're using ssh it has to encrypt the file before transering, and could slow the process down, try a simple ftp server instead ?
[17:54] <harmental> hey guys...im looking for a tool reprenting a chronometer....
[17:54] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: i know you didn't, some other numbskull did
[17:54] <gurpreet> dmsuperman, but when i do tcpdump -i ath0 and then do a ping google.com from other term then it shows some packets
[17:55] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: You could netboot if it has ethernet.
[17:55] <dubphil> kitty13kitty: yes good idea I try the ftp
[17:55] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: yes, i looked at it, but thats not what i was thinking,t he one i was thinking of, starts w/ a G
[17:55] <gurpreet> dmsuperman, ifconfig is showing data transferred size for both of them
[17:55] <Orbixx|Mob> It does, not sure if it supports netboot though.
[17:55] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, how much free hd space do you have available?
[17:55] <Orbixx|Mob> Have never netbooted either.
[17:55] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: Or if it already has Windows on it, you could use Wubi.
[17:55] <blakis21> a little help here...how do i add more resolution options
[17:55] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, and how much of it is not allocated atm?
[17:55] <dmsuperman_> gurpreet: are both connected? disable the eth0 and try. or just disconnect it
[17:56] <dmsuperman_> blakis21: in /etc/xorg.conf
[17:56] <Orbixx|Mob> Kitty, bout 30gb
[17:56] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, ah.. sorry.. to busy googling.. maybe Gym?  http://sarovar.org/projects/gym/
[17:56] <dmsuperman_> blakis21: sorry, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:56] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, so you have 30gb of unpartitioned space or just free space?
[17:56] <gurpreet> dmsuperman, eth0 is there on my interface but its not configured. the confusion is between ath0 and wifi0
[17:56] <blakis21> dmsuperman thanx
[17:56] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: man that drove me crazy, Gyache is what i was thinking of...lol
[17:56] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: 30gb is plenty for an Ubuntu install. I suggest netboot, Wubi, or external optical drive.
[17:56] <Jimbo> where are *.conf files of applications kept?
[17:56] <Orbixx|Mob> Free space, but i'm sure i could shrink the partition.
[17:56] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: http://gyachi.sourceforge.net/
[17:56] <Odd-rationale> Jimbo: /etc usually
[17:56] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, www.google.com look for partition magic, you can shrink your partition from windows, make it like 10G smaller, and make a new partition after it
[17:57] <RyanPrior> kitty13kitty: Partition Magic isn't needed for Vista users. Ask if people have Vista first.
[17:57] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, then you can use vmware to install a linux flavor using direct hd manipulation
[17:57] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, there are a lot of them out there.. :)
[17:57] <kitty13kitty> people USE vista ???
[17:57] <Liamm> oyoyyy
[17:57] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: Are you wanting to shrink your Windows partition or eliminate it?
[17:57]  * kitty13kitty boggles
[17:57] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: indeed, i knew i heard of oen that started with a G, just couldn't rmember the name
[17:57] <Orbixx|Mob> Windows should be able toshrink it in disk management.
[17:57] <IndyGunFreak> kitty13kitty: 1 or 2 people d..
[17:57] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: If you have Vista, it sure can. :-)
[17:58] <Orbixx|Mob> I don't fancy having windows on it.
[17:58] <Orbixx|Mob> Just linux.
[17:58] <Liamm> ubuntu my favorite os
[17:58] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: the thing is, i don['t trust windows to do anything important, and that would include partitioning
[17:58] <kitty13kitty> billgates and gabe ... last i counted
[17:58] <Liamm> :)
[17:58] <Gibb> how does the synaptic package handler connect to the internet? I need to setup a proxy for it
[17:58] <Orbixx|Mob> I'd prefer just to wipe it.
[17:58] <IndyGunFreak> kitty13kitty: lol
[17:58] <Liamm> cant wait for the new release to be finished
[17:58] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: In that case, no worries about your Windows partition - just nuke it.
[17:58] <bo-dick> pretty hard to find information about mounting network drives in ubuntu
[17:58] <IndyGunFreak> Orbixx|Mob: just think long and hard before you do that.
[17:58] <Odd-rationale> Gibb: hold on. let me get the wiki page for you...
[17:58] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: Can you get ahold of an external optical drive? (Even if you don't have a friend who's got one, A-Z Rent All or similar might have one)
[17:58] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, you can't nuke it if you don't have a way to get a new os on it quite yet
[17:58] <Jimbo> How come I don't have apt.conf?
[17:58] <bo-dick> i shouldn't have to edit fstab to do that huh
[17:59] <neil> i have tried installing via the restricted drivers but it fails
[17:59] <alphaaa> when u install a new program, is it automatically added to the start menu ?
[17:59] <Orbixx|Mob> Why is that?
[17:59] <Orbixx|Mob> Yes, kitty.
[17:59] <Gibb> Odd-rationale, thx
[17:59] <nirc> hey
[17:59] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: Vista's partition editor is actually really excelelnt.
[17:59] <arvind_khadri> alphaaa, yes
[17:59] <Odd-rationale> Gibb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto?action=show&redirect=AptGetHowTo#head-09fab4df311ef78d0376d13547043811307c49fa
[17:59] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, well it'd be nice to have your NEW os installed before you nuke the old one :P
[17:59] <Gibb> you rock Odd-rationale
[17:59] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: really?.. iv'e heard good things about it, but never used it... I just figured like most things MS, it sucked, was glitchy, and crash-prone
[17:59] <Odd-rationale> Gibb: :)
[17:59] <kippy> guys when i try to connect my phone using bluetooth i get the following error : "obex://[00:13:e0:1d:91:5b]" is not a valid location." Any suggestions?
[17:59] <gurpreet> which one is the real wireless interface? wifi0 or ath0?
[17:59] <Orbixx|Mob> I really just need a way to get ubuntu on as the single unemulated operating system.
[18:00] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, if you can shrink the partiton, use vmplayer and the machine image/livecd to install to your hd. you can do it all before nuking your windows partition
[18:00] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: As much as I've heard complaints about Vista, I haven't heard anything negative about its hard drive management.
[18:00] <didy> !pidgin
[18:00] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[18:00] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: lol
[18:00] <KrimZon> RyanPrior, vista's hd management sucks!
[18:00] <jking_> have you heard of anyone using Vista
[18:01] <jking_> and liking it
[18:01] <kitty13kitty> Orbixx|Mob, if you have a second machine you can always take your hd out and put it in that one, then just nukes away and install there and take the disk back to the computer with nod drives
[18:01] <jking_> i haven't
[18:01] <RyanPrior> kitty13kitty: It seems to me that instructing somebody to install Partition Magic and VMware, both non-free packages, in order to install Ubuntu is a little backwards.
[18:01] <Orbixx|Mob> Is there a way to install ubuntu directly from a booted windows environment?
[18:01] <Odd-rationale> jking_: i once did...
[18:01] <fresh_dumbledore> will there be a ubuntu 8.10?
[18:01] <IndyGunFreak> jking_: there's a few people out there that like it, why i don't know.. but i believe Vista is gonna push people towards OSX and Linux
[18:01] <jking_> :)
[18:01] <Odd-rationale> fresh_dumbledore: yes. if all goes well
[18:01] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: Wubi will work for that quite nicely! Google it.
[18:01] <Orbixx|Mob> Ah. Kitty, that would work?
[18:01] <arvind_khadri> Orbixx|Mob, wubi
[18:01] <IndyGunFreak> fresh_dumbledore: eventually
[18:01] <bo-dick> is this correct? "sudo mount //192.168.0.xxx/foo /media/foo"
[18:01] <PSiHo_pAT> jaa
[18:01] <jking_> OSX is really nice
[18:01] <xhaleor> dubmbledore - that'll be the october 08 release
[18:01] <dimas_> i am trying to run as server but my computer said "client socket...is running in another process"
[18:01] <kippy> guys when i try to connect my phone using bluetooth i get the following error : "obex://[00:13:e0:1d:91:5b]" is not a valid location." Any suggestions?
[18:01] <jking_> but same as linux little third party support for software
[18:01] <PSiHo_pAT> ioakjmjs
[18:01] <jking_> and games
[18:01] <PSiHo_pAT> anjsms
[18:01] <RyanPrior> jking_: OSX doesn't have the most important feature: freedom. :-)
[18:01] <Odd-rationale> jking_: be best to disscuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:02] <kitty13kitty> vmplayer is free, and partition magic has a trial period
[18:02] <jking_> true true
[18:02] <PSiHo_pAT> jamskjshsm
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> then 9.04, then 9.10, then 10.4, 10.10, 11.04, 11.10, etc
[18:02] <PSiHo_pAT> nmanatsgssa
[18:02] <Orbixx|Mob> Wubi...
[18:02] <Orbixx|Mob> Cool, thanks.
[18:02] <kitty13kitty> and if he is gonna nuke his partition afterwards, he isn't out much
[18:02] <fresh_dumbledore> will it be possible to update from 8.04 to 8.10 without data loss?
[18:02] <Odd-rationale> fresh_dumbledore: yes
[18:02] <RyanPrior> Orbixx|Mob: if you install via Wubi and it works well, there's a way to migrate that install to a dedicated partition as well. It's a good option.
[18:02] <xhaleor> dumbledore - absolutely
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> jking_: it seems games are the biggest oroblem on linux.
[18:02] <arvind_khadri> fresh_dumbledore, yeah
[18:02] <PSiHo_pAT> ioaksn   nmaszvgs
[18:02] <IndyGunFreak> but htere are some cool ones out there, i'm fairly addicted to assaultcube
[18:02] <PSiHo_pAT> opsus
[18:03] <KrimZon> i'm about write my wubi virtual disks over the top of the vista partition, except i really want to install XP first
[18:03] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: Actually, CrossOver Games / Wine and Cedega/WineX are getting really excellent.
[18:03] <jking_> yeah and now if you want to have a great gaming experience well get a console
[18:03] <jking_> but there are some nice Open Sores games out there
[18:03] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: really?.. i've not used Crossover in a while
[18:03] <fresh_dumbledore> is 32bit or 64bit better for amd athlon 64 x2 500+ and 2gb ram?
[18:03] <KrimZon> but i'd have to flash the bios for that and last time i tried updating a bios the new bios was worse
[18:03] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: I play at LANs with Windows gamers all the time using Wine, and a friend who's got Cedega can play even more game than I can.
[18:03] <Dinasty> I had bad luck with Crossover
[18:03] <dimas_> i am trying to run shoutcast server but when i initialized it give me this...<04/12/08@12:24:09> [main] source thread starting
 [main] opening client socket
 [main] error opening client socket! FATAL ERROR! Some other process is using this port!
[18:03] <PSiHo_pAT> jkahans
[18:03] <PSiHo_pAT> bgsgssnusam
[18:03] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: hmm, i'm more a console gamer, but thats good to know.
[18:03] <RyanPrior> fresh_dumbledore: 32-bit ought to work well for you.
[18:03] <Dinasty> I had Crossover working, but performance is slow
[18:03] <PSiHo_pAT> bngyaserab hs
[18:04] <arvind_khadri> PSiHo_pAT, this is english channel
[18:04] <jking_> Ryan not all games are completely bug free via wine
[18:04] <RyanPrior> fresh_dumbledore: If you upgrade to 4GB of RAM, then you'll want to go 64-bit, but at 2GB you won't see much performance increase.
[18:04] <PSiHo_pAT> nhhsysnah
[18:04] <fraroco> hello
[18:04] <jking_> well for that matter on windows either lulz
[18:04] <RyanPrior> fresh_dumbledore: If you're interested in benchmarks, a website called Phoronix has them. 64-bit is only a tiny bit faster on machines like that, and IMO it's not worth battling with application compatibility.
[18:04] <PSiHo_pAT> ioajmsjm
[18:04] <jking_> but wine does offer a nice alternative to the casual gamer
[18:05] <dimas_> jking would you help me please?
[18:05] <jking_> sure whats up dimas
[18:05] <sikava> hw do i sign up to gaim internet messenger?
[18:05] <fresh_dumbledore> i'll buy a pc with sli mainboard and i will probably upgrade to 4gb ram after a half year
[18:05] <PSiHo_pAT> osnmkaigsn
[18:05] <Odd-rationale> PSiHo_pAT: did you have a question?
[18:05] <dimas_> jking i am trying to access shoutcast server but when i initialize it gove me this...<04/12/08@12:24:09> [main] source thread starting
[18:05] <arvind_khadri> fresh_dumbledore, well i use 1gb ram and amd 64 :)
 [main] opening client socket
 [main] error opening client socket! FATAL ERROR! Some other process is using this port!
[18:05] <PSiHo_pAT> olsjsmss
[18:05] <PSiHo_pAT> nanhasmss,
[18:05] <jking_> what app dimas
[18:06] <PSiHo_pAT> nazvsbha
[18:06] <Odd-rationale> !ops | PSiHo_pAT
[18:06] <ubotu> PSiHo_pAT: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[18:06] <Dinasty> jking> I wouldnt mind running a windows machine specificly meant for gaming
[18:06] <fraroco> how can I format a NTFS to Linux format?
[18:06] <PSiHo_pAT> olajamajmc
[18:06] <jking_> dinasty i can appreciate that
[18:06] <fresh_dumbledore> will 64bit be better for wine if I upgrade to 4gb RAM?
[18:06] <arvind_khadri> fresh_dumbledore,  hmm
[18:06] <sikava> am tryn conecting to gaim internet bt no sucess
[18:06] <Dinasty> fraroco> just pop in the Ubuntu disk
[18:06] <jking_> dimas what application are you running?
[18:07] <jking_> that is giving that error
[18:07] <arvind_khadri> sikava, where do u want to connect
[18:07] <sikava> to the chat
[18:07] <beast> can anyone tell a name of .fla editor in ubuntu
[18:07] <tomd123> fraroco, in the install cd, it automatically does this for you, just select one of the guided partitioning settings
[18:07] <abom> #linuxac
[18:07] <RyanPrior> fresh_dumbledore: when you upgrade to 4GB, only 3.2GB will be available to a 32-bit OS, so if you want that last 0.8GB you'll need to use 64-bit.
[18:07] <sikava> hw do i sign up 4 it
[18:07] <dimas_> jking i want to find out what is using my client socket....look...trying to run shoutcast server...means trying to access it...<04/12/08@12:24:09> [main] source thread starting
 [main] opening client socket
 [main] error opening client socket! FATAL ERROR! Some other process is using this port!
[18:08] <tomd123> fraroco: make sure to make a back up of all your important files, ie, photos, music because everything will be deleted when you formate
[18:08] <arvind_khadri> sikava, which chat??
[18:08] <fraroco> Dinasty, I have two HD in the computer. The fist have the system ubuntu and the second one has the format NTFS.
[18:08] <jking_> not familiar with shoutcast server but wait a few seconds I will get some info
[18:08] <shanepardue> How would I setup grub if my grub install can't find stage1 on any partition?
[18:08] <beast> hello, can anyone tell a name of .fla editor in ubuntu??
[18:08] <sikava> gaim internet messenger
[18:08] <RyanPrior> fresh_dumbledore: If you want to start using 64-bit now to get used to dealing with occasional application incompatibilities, it might save you headache later.
[18:09] <arvind_khadri> sikava, yahoo,jabber or what?? and please take a name out
[18:09] <fidelio> hi everybody
[18:09] <arvind_khadri> fidelio, hi
[18:09] <sikava> hlp
[18:09] <jking_> dimas what shoutcast server are you running
[18:09] <Dinasty> fraroco, it all comes down to preferences, I would use ubuntu for doing work and travel, and a windows for home gaming
[18:09] <fidelio> any easy way to upgrade 6.06?
[18:09] <IndyGunFreak> lol, whyd o people still 6.06?
[18:09] <arvind_khadri> sikava, if u dont tell whats your prb exactly how can we help
[18:09] <fresh_dumbledore> I don't want to start using 64bit now because right now I don't have the pc with 64bit support but I will get one in some months
[18:10] <arvind_khadri> fidelio, 6.06 from which versiom??
[18:10] <IndyGunFreak> arvind_khadri: i don't think he knows his problem
[18:10] <sikava>  INEED TO GO TO CHAT
[18:10] <fidelio> i have 6.06
[18:10] <arvind_khadri> IndyGunFreak, that guy is irritating
[18:10] <fidelio> lts
[18:10] <jking_> sikiva no need to yell
[18:10] <IndyGunFreak> indeed.
[18:10] <IndyGunFreak> sikava: did you look in Pidgin like we said?
[18:10] <MattJ> sikava: What chat? where?
[18:10] <Gibb> Whats the command to dump the contents of a small file to the command prompt like the "type" command in dos?
[18:10] <Dinasty> fresh_dumbledor, you wait for some months, some months after you waited they'll alway be making something better
[18:10] <arvind_khadri> fidelo u want to upgrade to which version
[18:10] <MattJ> sikava: There are lots of 'chat's
[18:10] <fidelio> the most stable
[18:10] <jking_> cat Gibb
[18:11] <jking_> cat <filename>
[18:11] <fidelio> need to be easy though
[18:11] <arvind_khadri> fidelio, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:11] <dimas_> jking sc_serv_1.9.8_Linux.tar.gz and got it from this stream...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=488602
[18:11] <IndyGunFreak> fidelio: you'll have to go to 6.06, then 6.10, then 7.04, then 7.10  this will take hours nedless to say
[18:11] <dimas_> jking last post in mine
[18:11] <xhaleor> fidelio try sudo update-manager -d in the terminal
[18:11] <jking_> thanks dimas looking now
[18:11] <arvind_khadri> fidelio, the best way is to a cd
[18:11] <fidelio> any easy alternatives live cd?
[18:12] <arvind_khadri> fidelio, the most stable would be 7.04
[18:12] <IndyGunFreak> fidelio: you should probably wait till Hardy comes out later this month, cuz then you'll be able to go from Dapper directly to Hardy
[18:12] <fraroco> Dinasty I've installed the VMware for home gaming I do just not need windows for anything else. But I do not want to have the format NTFS...
[18:12] <IndyGunFreak> rather than hitting all the distros in between
[18:12] <arvind_khadri> fidelio, yeah thats what get cd's for 7.04
[18:12] <foxynet> bonjoiur
[18:12] <arvind_khadri> IndyGunFreak, there is no direct path
[18:12] <beast> Hello, can anyone tell a name of .fla editor in ubuntu???
[18:12] <J-Unit> does any1 no a site that has 100% free 1680x1050 halo 3 and/or half-life 2 wallppapers?
[18:12] <gatestone> Best torrent client?
[18:13] <IndyGunFreak> arvind_khadri: betwen the LTS distros there is
[18:13] <fidelio> later this month for hardy?
[18:13] <MattJ> fidelio: The 24th
[18:13] <raven478> flash or action script is not supported in ubuntu
[18:13] <jking_> dimas in the config file do you have source and client set at different ports or the same
[18:13] <IndyGunFreak> fidelio: the next version of Ubuntu.. 8.04
[18:13] <arvind_khadri> IndyGunFreak, i heard lots of ppl sayin no for that
[18:13] <Dinasty> fraroco your right windows is useless to me other than playing games
[18:13] <IndyGunFreak> arvind_khadri: to my knowldge, you can go from one LTS version, to another
[18:13] <foxynet> #france
[18:13] <fidelio> well, then it is worth to wait...thanks all
[18:13] <Gibb> jking_, thank you
[18:13] <IndyGunFreak> but you can't go from say, 6.10 to 8.04
[18:13] <arvind_khadri> !hardy > fidelio
[18:13] <jking_> no problem Gibb
[18:13] <IndyGunFreak> you have to be using the LTS version
[18:14] <arvind_khadri> IndyGunFreak, hmm
[18:14] <IndyGunFreak> 6.06 to 8.04, should go fine
[18:14] <jking_> Dimas: the config file is sc_serv.conf
[18:14] <IndyGunFreak> but you couldn't 6.10 to 8.04 or 6.10 to 8.04
[18:14] <foxynet> #mandriva
[18:14] <dimas_> jking you talking about the text file...sc_serv.conf?
[18:14] <jking_> dimas: yes
[18:14] <neil> hi, can someone help me with a problem i am having installing my NVIDIA GFX card please, restricted drivers DOESN'T work
[18:15] <jking_> can you use pastebin and copy the contents of the sc_serv.conf to it
[18:15] <J-Unit> neil, did u use envy?
[18:15] <xhaleor> neil - try Envy installer -google it
[18:15] <dimas_> jking so those will be the parameters to run it then?
[18:15] <jking_> dimas that is correct
[18:15] <didy> once again whats the url for ntfs???
[18:15] <neil> the problem is the driver is clashing with something
[18:15] <jking_> you can change the port to what ever port you wish
[18:15] <RyanPrior> !envy
[18:15] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[18:15] <J-Unit> didy, ntfs-3g is not a url its an app to install thru synaptic
[18:16] <arvind_khadri> !ntfs-3g >didy
[18:16] <tim__b> hey folks, is there a text editor able to perform justification on a simple text file (for a fixed with, for example 80 signs)?
[18:16] <dimas_> jking so do i have to set password and everything there then?
[18:16] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: speaking of, did you see Automatix finally died its painful death
[18:16] <symptom> how is ubuntu with widescreen monitors?
[18:16] <RyanPrior> tim__b: What exactly are you looking for?
[18:16] <jking_> i don't know about password but most config setting will exist there in sc_serv.conf
[18:16] <J-Unit> tim__b, simple text files can be edited using openoffice or u can open gedit using terminal
[18:16] <dimas_> jking thanks i will have a look
[18:16] <xhaleor> fine on my 22" Viewsonic at 1680 x 1050
[18:16] <beast> HELLO, can anyone tell a name of .fla editor in ubuntu ?
[18:16] <Scunizi> symptom, fine.. do you mean 42" or smaller
[18:17] <jking_> ubuntu is cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything
[18:17] <didy> once again whats the url for ntfs???
[18:17] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: Actually that was a joke. APT is being replaced by Automatix for Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid.
[18:17] <PSiHo_pAT> olajama
[18:17] <arvind_khadri> !patience > beast
[18:17] <IndyGunFreak> didy: http://ntfs.com
[18:17] <symptom> Scunizi, I mean like 19-22"
[18:17] <symptom> hehe
[18:17] <PSiHo_pAT> mkamaka,
[18:17] <dimas_> jking thanks i thought that was just a text info file
[18:17] <symptom> ty xhaleor
[18:17] <shachaf> didy: http://google.com/search?q=ntfs ?
[18:17] <PSiHo_pAT> hahahahahahaha
[18:17] <funner> hey can someone help with encrypting files?
[18:17] <jking_> no problem dimas
[18:17] <xhaleor> welcome
[18:17] <funner> I'm using GnuPG
[18:17] <arvind_khadri> !ntfs-3g | didy
[18:17] <ubotu> didy: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[18:17] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: youc an't be serious
[18:17] <tim__b> i got several lines of simple text (.txt) which i want to set justification on, meaning, putting some extra spaces in to make the text look like in justification mode
[18:17] <Scunizi> symptom, no problem.. also depends on your card.. nvidia ati etc.. and the memory it has.. most stuff in the last several years works fine.
[18:17] <PSiHo_pAT> hantsuazmkmlopa
[18:17] <arvind_khadri> RyanPrior, yeah dont say that apt is going to be removed
[18:18] <Odd-rationale> PSiHo_pAT: If you have a question, please aks. Dont spam the channel
[18:18] <symptom> Scunizi, thank you
[18:18] <IndyGunFreak> i thought LJL kaboshed him earlier
[18:18] <arvind_khadri> Odd-rationale, why dont you set a ban on him
[18:18] <PSiHo_pAT> nakisju7snsj
[18:18] <shachaf> tim__b: sed 's/^/    /' ?
[18:18] <Odd-rationale> arvind_khadri: I can't :)
[18:18] <LjL> IndyGunFreak: no, he was muted and i wasn't involved
[18:18] <IndyGunFreak> LjL: oh  my bad..
[18:18] <arvind_khadri> Odd-rationale, ask someone who can..where are the moderators??
[18:18] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak, his nick makes me think he's from indonesia
[18:18] <IndyGunFreak> wel lhe needs to be gagged and given cement shoes and tossed in a river.
[18:19] <PSiHo_pAT> maploikoausjhs
[18:19] <Odd-rationale> arvind_khadri: there around... somewhere.
[18:19] <PSiHo_pAT> nasnha    abnh
[18:19] <arvind_khadri> IndyGunFreak, hey was RyanPrior serious about apt??
[18:19] <IndyGunFreak> arvind_khadri: lol, id on't think so.
[18:19] <funner> I was wondering how I could store my key on a usb key (i don't intend to share it with anyone) and then when I want to decrypt those files on the drive just use that plus a pass phrase.
[18:19] <IndyGunFreak> arvind_khadri: automatix is switching to some other distribution where they won't get their feelings hurt because the community tells them the truth
[18:19] <intelli> How do I create a command in the terminal? Like, I just want to type something instead of having to CD to a directory, then typing ./program or whatever.
[18:19] <PSiHo_pAT> nasbhanka
[18:19] <intelli> I can't recall how.
[18:20] <arvind_khadri> !automatix
[18:20] <ubotu> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[18:20] <jking_> intelli alias will allow that
[18:20] <funner> should I just create a simlink from the standard keyring location or is there a better way?
[18:20] <tim__b> shachaf, thanks, but that doesn't seem to work :(
[18:20] <IndyGunFreak> Intrepid iba?.l. what the.. who came up with that
[18:20] <jking_> alias cmd='actual long command with options and stuff'
[18:20] <tim__b> shachaf, it only adds four spaces in front of each line
[18:20] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: Intrepid Ibex. Probably SABDFL.
[18:20] <fresh_dumbledore> it I install 8.04 32bit would it be possible to upgrade later to 8.10 64bit?
[18:20] <shachaf> tim__b: I'm not sure what you're trying to do, exactly.
[18:21] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: thats horrible..lol
[18:21] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: an Ibex is like a Gnu. :-)
[18:21] <arvind_khadri> intelli, u can use alias
[18:21] <tim__b> shachaf, may i query you?
[18:21] <jking_> dumbledore I believe it will need to be a fresh install
[18:21] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: i used to drive an Intrepid..lol
[18:21] <RyanPrior> fresh_dumbledore: You would need to back up your files and reinstall.
[18:21] <arvind_khadri> intelli, but dont know how to change that ./ thing
[18:21] <beast> can anyone tell a name of .fla editor in ubuntu?
[18:21] <jking_> intelli: said this before but alias cmd='actual long command with options and stuff
[18:22] <RyanPrior> beast: As far as I know, there aren't any good flash movie editors for Linux.
[18:22] <arvind_khadri> beast no one knows the answer why dont u google it
[18:22] <jking_> intelli are you refering to a bash script or something
[18:22] <jking_> ./script.sh
[18:22] <intelli> I guess alias will work, but what are the parameters I need?
[18:23] <intelli> I just want a word to run a program in a certain location.
[18:23] <jking_> intelli: to many parameters to your ambiguous question
[18:23] <lucas2> hey. does anybody know how I can revert the config file /etc/xen/xend-config.sxp  to how it was when the I installed xen?   I am assuming I should re-aptget the package, but I don't know how to find out what package that file comes form..
[18:23] <jking_> !alias
[18:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alias - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:23] <fraroco> how can I format a NTFS to Linux format?
[18:23] <intelli> Like, I just want to type something instead of having to CD to a directory, then typing ./program or whatever.
[18:23] <arvind_khadri> intelli, use man alias\
[18:24] <Odd-rationale> fraroco: use gparted. Beware! it will erase all data on the partition
[18:24] <jking_> ^^^ exactly
[18:24] <didy> what's the best universal best of all codec for ubuntu??
[18:24] <intelli> I have no man entry for alias.
[18:24] <cchild> does any know how to read a luks/dm-crypt drive in windows
[18:24] <arvind_khadri> intelli, use alias --help
[18:24] <Kodeart> how can i restore or fix the screen resolution with the terminal? i just changed from 11xx-xxx (?!) to 1024-768 and the screen is not really good :)
[18:24] <^vincy^> Ciao a tutti!!!
[18:24] <grnmtn> can help me with a USB hard drive mounting problem? I have a HD formatted for FAT32, and it won't mount - the dmesg output is here: http://pastebin.com/m681156fc
[18:24] <didy> what's the best universal best of all codec for ubuntu??
[18:24] <ompaul> !it | ^vincy^
[18:24] <ubotu> ^vincy^: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:25] <intelli> arvind_khadri, doesn't work.
[18:25] <ompaul> !codecs | didy (no best one)
[18:25] <ubotu> didy (no best one): For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:25] <user1> is there a v goog gui for system stats. that tells all about cpu... ALL i mean. or max one can think off.?
[18:25] <gatestone> A wish: gtk should implement this little-know gem of a feture from Microsoft: if you double click between column headers in a list like window, it will automatically fit the left side column width.
[18:25] <yedday> hi all... using pidgen (chat protocols software) when writing messages, my box where my text is, moves around all the time I write *g
[18:25] <Odd-rationale> Kodeart: to reconfigure your xserver try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:25] <grnmtn> it mounts fine in OSX
[18:25] <arvind_khadri> intelli, the format is alias <alias name>='<command name>
[18:25] <cjsstables> Hey all.  anyone familiar with getting an Ubuntu Client to join an SME Server domain?
[18:25] <Kodeart> thanks Odd-rationale
[18:26] <cjsstables> I have googled all over for instructions but can'tfind a thing
[18:26] <intelli> Um, if this is a command for renaming a command something else, it is not what I want.
[18:26] <arvind_khadri> yedday u mean it gets shrinked or something??
[18:26] <jking_> intelli: so you want a script to run a series of commands?
[18:26] <arcsky> how can i install silicon image raid drivers ?
[18:26] <arvind_khadri> intelli, well this is the only way in Linux to rename a comman
[18:26] <intelli> I don't want to rename another command. I want to RUN a program that is located on my hard drive without having to CD to the directory and typing ./program-name.
[18:26] <arvind_khadri> !raid > arcsky
[18:27] <jking_> intelli: type echo $PATH
[18:27] <cchild> does any know how to read a usb luks/dm-crypt drive in windows
[18:27] <tylerflick> Anyone had trouble with ati drivers in Hardy today? Compiz went bizzurk this morning
[18:27] <grnmtn> anyone?
[18:28] <ompaul> !hardy | tylerflick
[18:28] <ubotu> tylerflick: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:28] <eu> How can install the client vpn nortel?
[18:28] <arvind_khadri> !hardy > tylerflick
[18:28] <Scunizi> tylerflick, they've been talking about that and wireless in #ubuntu+1 all morning.. go ther.
[18:28] <intelli> Why?
[18:28] <arvind_khadri> intelli, what do u mean why
[18:28] <user1> is there a v goog gui for system stats. that tells all about cpu... ALL i mean. or max one can think off.? like cpu. ram, hardisk etc..
[18:29] <intelli> Why type echo $PATH?
[18:29] <Odd-rationale> cchild: see the bottom of this page: http://www.saout.de/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=LUKS
[18:29] <grnmtn> does anyone have suggestion for troubleshooting errors reading a external hard drive partition table?
[18:29] <kitty13kitty> intelli echo is a command that will just output your command, so if you're using variables, you can tell what they are
[18:29] <jking_> generally a command needs to exist in your path to be executable from anywhere
[18:30] <eu> Someone knows how to install apani in ubuntu?
[18:30] <arvind_khadri> intelli, jking_  is right
[18:30] <cchild> Odd-rationale, thanks
[18:30] <arvind_khadri> eu, whats that
[18:30] <intelli> I remember doing this once, and it was very easy. I am trying to run the game ADOM from the terminal by simply typing adom instead of CDing to the directory and typing ./adom.
[18:30] <christian__> was ist das hier?
[18:30] <iscariote> fgdf
[18:30] <ompaul> !de | christian__
[18:30] <ubotu> christian__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[18:31] <rausb0> christian__: this channel is english only
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> intelli, set the executable for adom and jus run it
[18:31] <self_up> i kann ein bisschen deutch aber...
[18:31] <ompaul> rausb0, normally we reply with !country-code and then if person continues say what you said ;-) and then act on it
[18:31] <intelli> What does that mean?
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> intelli, chmod +x
[18:31] <RainMakesMeWet> intelli: chmod +X
[18:31] <eu> arvind_khadri > Apani actually is the name of the company that developed a vpn client to connect as conectivity of nortel no windows
[18:32] <cchild> Odd-rationale, what i have i go to school and this program is not installed in the system?
[18:32] <RainMakesMeWet> intelli: chmod +x adom
[18:32] <intelli> What does that do?
[18:32] <jking_> it sets the app executable
[18:32] <arvind_khadri> intelli it sets ur file to be exeucatable
[18:32] <ompaul> self_up, we don't entertain none english conversations here we get them to move the correct channel ;-)
[18:32] <intelli> Why would I want that/
[18:32] <intelli> ?
[18:32] <Odd-rationale> cchild: so you have a luks encrypted hdd that you want to browse on another computer that you don't own?
[18:32] <arvind_khadri> eu i have no idea about it
[18:32] <rausb0> ompaul: the problem is that !de does not explicitly mention that this channel is english only. other countrycode factoids do that.
[18:33] <self_up> but some of us are multilingual
[18:33] <RainMakesMeWet> so that you can just run it by typing adom and not ./adom
[18:33] <arvind_khadri> intelli as thats the solution for ur prob
[18:33] <unop__> intelli, you'll need to add the directory adom is in to your $PATH if you just want to be able to type 'adom'
[18:33] <cchild> Odd-rationale, yes, usb
[18:33] <ompaul> rausb0, 99% of the time it does not need to
[18:33] <jking_> intelli, cause you asked for a resolution to your problem
[18:33] <arvind_khadri> unop__, please make him understand
[18:33] <rausb0> self_up: ja, ich spreche auch deutsch :)
[18:34] <yedday> this alternative flashplayer gtk gnash.. it doesn't play flash movies at all! youtube i mean... so i switched back to adobe's player... but this sucks. it's in the off repos but doesn't do it's job.
[18:34] <Odd-rationale> cchild: would you be able to boot from usb on the school computer? if so, you can make a 100mb partion and put something like puppylinux on it. Boot puppy and mount you luks encrypted hdd.
[18:34] <unop__> arvind_khadri, i'll wait for him to ask me what that means first - because most times people know what to do and i don't want to be extremely terse in explaining every single step down to perfect detail
[18:34] <intelli> nm, I got alias working.
[18:34] <Odd-rationale> cchild: or you could put puppy on a cd and boot from cd
[18:34] <arvind_khadri> unop__, thats correct
[18:34] <jking_> hooray intelli
[18:35] <cchild> Odd-rationale, system bootable device disabled.
[18:35] <arvind_khadri> jking_, he doesnt know what he wants
[18:35] <jking_> yeah i figured
[18:35] <Odd-rationale> cchild: your pretty much out of luck then...
[18:36] <ShiroUsagi> Hi, could anyone help me with setting route tables? I have two ubuntu-machines connected via a netgear switch. Both have tun/tap set up for guest systems in virtualbox. And both can`t see each other by local ip.
[18:36] <user1> is there a v goog gui for system stats. that tells all about cpu... ALL i mean. or max one can think off.? like cpu. ram, hardisk etc..
[18:36] <symptom> anyone know how to set up dual monitors with hardy?
[18:36] <cchild> Odd-rationale, i figured.
[18:36] <self_up> ShiroUsagi: white rabbit?
[18:36] <intelli> The hell? Alias isn't permanent.
[18:37] <RainMakesMeWet> user, have you added the system monitor applet to the task bar and used that
[18:37] <user1> symptom why do you need dual moniters
[18:37] <arvind_khadri> user1, lshw
[18:37] <self_up> intelli: you mean alias for irssi you mean? or something else
[18:37] <ShiroUsagi> self_up, Hare actually, but there`s no difference in Japanese.
[18:37] <cchild> Odd-rationale, i was going to use treucrypt for  the usb drive, but also requires admin right to run
[18:37] <eu> Someone knows install apani vpn client
[18:37] <self_up> so des ne
[18:37] <eu> Someone knows install apani vpn client?
[18:38] <symptom> user1, it works well when multitasking
[18:38] <Odd-rationale> cchild: you can boot puppy or dsl inside of windows using qemu. but i'm not sure that you'll be able to access external usb device. Maybe someone can confirm? Can you mount external hardware in qemu?
[18:38] <symptom> user1, I dont NEED it, its a nice to have
[18:38] <user1> arvind_khadri i need real time statss. cpu. ram . hd .etc
[18:38] <user1> symptom hmm. what multitaske you perform (just asking. i never did it)
[18:39] <intelli> How do I make an alias command permanent?
[18:39] <jking_> add it to the .bashrc file
[18:39] <Ultraputz> is it possible to get rid of the display of categories in the buddy list of pidgin and just have all the entries together, unsorted?
[18:39] <Orbixx> Does anyone know of a way I can install Ubuntu from a Windows environment and have the Ubuntu installer completely remove any Windows partition and fully install itself?
[18:40] <Orbixx> Kind of like.
[18:40] <arvind_khadri> intelli, u cant make it permanent
[18:40] <symptom> user1, when you want to have multiple text files open at once and be able to view them both in full screen.  Basically When you need full screen for one thing, but have to have antother window open, instead of adjusting each window to fit just right you just drag one over
[18:40] <Orbixx> Copy itself into the hard disk as bootable.
[18:40] <dimas_> jking i going to private message you my configuration file is that ok?
[18:40] <Orbixx> And install itself.
[18:40] <jking_> dimas ok
[18:40] <ompaul> Orbixx, you start with a blank CD and then install it from that
[18:40] <LjL> dimas_: why don't you use the pastebin?
[18:40] <cchild> Odd-rationale, does qemu have to be installed in windows to use or can be run from cd
[18:40] <jking_> that would work do dimas
[18:40] <Orbixx> ompaul: Imagine I have no optical drive.
[18:40] <dimas_> dont know what is that
[18:40] <Odd-rationale> cchild: no.
[18:40] <LjL> !pastebin > dimas_    (dimas_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[18:40] <ompaul> !install | Orbixx
[18:40] <ubotu> Orbixx: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[18:41] <Odd-rationale> cchild: you would just run an exe which does not require admin rights.
[18:41] <Orbixx> !automate
[18:41] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[18:41] <ritalin> ubuntu overrides anything i add to my xorg.conf for DPS :(
[18:41] <ritalin> wat can i doo?
[18:41] <Odd-rationale> cchild: it won't install or affect the host machine in anyway
[18:41] <Odd-rationale> cchild: http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/
[18:42] <cchild> Odd-rationale, this could work
[18:42] <amenado> ritalin-> are you sure? try to completely logout or maybe even shutdown to test?
[18:42] <ritalin> i did
[18:42] <jochmenDS> does kvm have an gui frontend and what can i virtualize?
[18:42] <cchild> Odd-rationale, basic have 2 partition on the usb drive, one with qemu/puppy and the other, luks
[18:43] <arvind_khadri> intelli, u'll need to do shell scripting for tat
[18:43] <jking_> arvind if he adds the line to .bashrc it will be permanent
[18:43] <Odd-rationale> cchild: correct.
[18:43] <ritalin> pretty annoying, I dont wanna use xfce as my wm(im on xubuntu) but my screen wont blank
[18:43] <Odd-rationale> cchild: the one with qemu/puppy should be vfat
[18:44] <gurpreet> which one is the real wireless interface? wifi0 or ath0?
[18:44] <cchild> Odd-rationale, i think you just answered my problem. but i have to figure out if qemu will be able to mount the usb drive/partition
[18:44] <dubphil> after many investigations : server (debain etch the internet forwarder) 3 interfaces eth0 -> computer 1 eth1 -> computer 2 eth2 -> internet  (IPTABLES script with strictly same rules for eth0 and eth1) a big file copied over the network from the server to the computer 2 has a good speed (about 20Mb/s) the same bigfile copied from server to computer 1 is slow less than 1 Mb/s (scp, nfs and http protocols have been used), a big file copied from Internet and c
[18:45] <Odd-rationale> cchild: I'd be interested in trying this myself... why don't you /join #Odd-rationale and we'll discuss it in more detials. afterall, were no longer talking about ubuntu in particualr... :)
[18:47] <cchild> Odd-rationale, am not registered
[18:48] <Odd-rationale> cchild: you still should be able to join channel #Odd-rationale
[18:48] <capiCrimm> t1n0m3n, no I mean the desktop launcher icons size. The OS does scale them like normal icons.
[18:48] <Odd-rationale> cchild: It is not a pm. just different channel
[18:48] <capiCrimm> how can I have the system control a launcher icons size?
[18:49] <rhaven_> hi
[18:49] <jking_> hi
[18:49] <danny1> hello
[18:50] <dtolj> hi
[18:50] <rhaven_> i was wondering where the options are for enabling disabling the boot animation is
[18:50] <Clinteger> I've downloaded Ubuntu, but I'm wondering how I can convert this iso to a DVD iso so I can burn it to a DVD+RW. This seems rather trivial, but when I burnt it previously using ImgBurn [i'm on XP], it didn't seem to burn the boot data.
[18:50] <dimas_> jking you got it?
[18:50] <dimas_> jking i posted on pastebin
[18:51] <sp3> hello
[18:51] <user1> An error occurred while enabling /media/cdrom.
[18:51] <user1> The system reported: mount: special device <device> does not existn
[18:51] <jking_> dimas i need the url to the pastebin
[18:51] <jking_> please
[18:51] <dimas_> jking http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62955/
[18:52] <[newbie]> HI ALL!
[18:52] <dtolj> user1: when did this error occur, where you trying to mount your CD
[18:52] <jking_> looking now dimas
[18:52] <NoiZ> hi from russian proggers!
[18:52] <user1> ya
[18:52] <dimas_> jking thanks
[18:52] <_CrasH_> RUSSIA )
[18:52] <ritalin> comrade NoiZ
[18:52] <self_up> hi ruskies
[18:52] <ritalin> salute
[18:52] <_CrasH_> Nasha RASHA
[18:52] <user1> dtolj i inserted cd. it was not auto mounted as before. i manully tried. and the eror came
[18:52] <self_up> thanks for nginx, btw
[18:53] <NoiZ> ritalin: where ar u from?
[18:53] <_CrasH_> What feature here occurs?
[18:53] <user1> An error occurred while enabling /media/cdrom.
[18:53] <dtolj> user1: try as root, mount /dev/cdrom <cdrom>
[18:53] <user1> The system reported: mount: special device <device> does not exist  i inserted cd. it was not auto mounted as before. i manully tried. and the eror camee
[18:53] <user1> k
[18:53] <self_up> _CrasH_: what?
[18:54] <dtolj> user1: check that /dev/cdrom exists in case u dont have it might be something else
[18:54] <user1> dtolj i gtg. power failuer
[18:54] <jking_> dimas try changing PortBase=8000 to PortBase=8080
[18:54] <jking_> and restart
[18:55] <dimas_> jking ok
[18:56] <bo-dick> question, must i install anything on vista before i can mount it from ubuntu over network?
[18:57] <ritalin> vista is evil
[18:57] <dimas_> jking yess
[18:57] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i make a script autostart on boot, i added it to session but it seems not be working, can someone tell me what i have to do?
[18:57] <dimas_> jking thank you
[18:57] <jking_> my pleasure dimas
[18:58] <unop> !repositories > unop
[18:58] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, no. Ubuntu will pretend to be a windows comp when talking to vista
[18:59] <blue-frog> Pirate_Hunter: on boot or when you log in?
[18:59] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, rather then making vista act like linux
[18:59] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: i'm having problems
[18:59] <Pirate_Hunter> blue-frog: when i log in
[18:59] <mats_> I installed Firestarter it does not start wheen booting
[18:59] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, a bash script work?
[18:59] <blue-frog> Pirate_Hunter: is your script running if you launch it by hand now?
[19:00] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: do you have any recommended methods?
[19:00] <Pirate_Hunter> blue-frog: havent tried running it by hand but should work
[19:00] <Pirate_Hunter> capiCrimm: yup
[19:00] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, what exactly is the problem
[19:00] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: i get permission denied
[19:00] <blue-frog> Pirate_Hunter: come back when you know it works
[19:01] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: maybe the target drive must be password protected
[19:01] <sharperguy> is there an equivilent of <alt>+171 for getting a half symbol in ubuntu like you get in windows?
[19:01] <danand_> mats_ - firestarter will not start until the interface is up. don't know why but firestarter startup scripts seem to get called before the network interfaces are properly configured
[19:01] <max_> how to change the aspect of windows titlebar?
[19:01] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, there are a couple of them, so let me look and find the correct one. You only want this for a single users login, right? not global
[19:01] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, possible. You've shared the file on Vista, right?
[19:02] <max_> now i have  transparent/image
[19:02] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: yup
[19:02] <Pirate_Hunter> capiCrimm: ive got a script to run conky after 30secs but i need it to run on log in how do i do that, do you know
[19:02] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: i've shared the whole c drive
[19:02] <Pirate_Hunter> blue-frog: ive got a script to run conky after 30secs but i need it to run on log in how do i do that, do you know
[19:02] <dmsuperman> does anyone know of a good data recovery software?
[19:02] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, the quickest way is putting running it in ~/.profile
[19:03] <blue-frog> Pirate_Hunter: does it work when you launch it by hand?
[19:03] <kitty13kitty> dmsuperman define "recovery"
[19:03] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, however I'm not sure that's the most proper
[19:03] <dmsuperman> meaning: i had an ntfs partition. i was told i needed to make it ext3, so i copied the entire thing onto another drive, and overwrote the partition with an ext3 and copied back. now some of the files are missing and one of them is crucial to a job i've been working on for months
[19:03] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, and I'm not sure that launches at startup of the GUI
[19:03] <Pirate_Hunter> blue-frog: dont know i had to move it from /etc/conky cause i ahve no permission there and now im waiting to see if it will run conky in 30secs
[19:04] <Pirate_Hunter> blue-frog: however could you tell me how to run scripts at login?
[19:04] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, can you ping the vista box?
[19:04] <eTranquility> Hi, I'm having some problems with media codecs.... I think. Anytime I try to play an avi or wmv all I get is colored vertical lines, and most radio streams aren't working. I can't figure out what I'm missing.
[19:04] <blue-frog> Pirate_Hunter: why would you move it? run the command you entreed in the session window and see what it does
[19:04] <Pirate_Hunter> capiCrimm: didnt know that i had to keep it in my profile just learnt that now but once i do that what do i do to make it run
[19:05] <blue-frog> Pirate_Hunter: system/pref/session
[19:05] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: doesn't appear to work
[19:05] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: i pinged this machine from vista though
[19:05] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, you don't keep it in there. You just run the file from there.
[19:05] <Pirate_Hunter> blue-frog: the script does work from my home but not from /etc/conky so that might be the problem will check on next boot to see if im correct
[19:05] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, that's probably your problem. What's your network like?
[19:06] <dmsuperman> kitty13kitty, like in windows i had this app called Get Data Back, and it could find partitions several layers old
[19:06] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: this machine and the vista are hooked to a router
[19:06] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: create a hidden file in ~/.xinitrc and call the script from there, should start when X starts.
[19:06] <kitty13kitty> i havn't been able to recover a partition's data since I started formatting 0 filled :D
[19:07] <shiv> Hi. I dont know if this is the right channel, but how can I check if AGP Sidebanding is enabled. The GUP is a geforce fx go5200
[19:07] <shiv> GPU*
[19:07] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, the same router?
[19:07] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: yup
[19:08] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm having difficulty finding an up-to-date guide for setting up beryl on my fglrx card. It seems that the technology and the setup has been changing. Thanks in advance.
[19:08] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: that folder dont exist in my system (of course that doesnt mean i couldnt create it) im just going to run the script from template since i never used that folder
[19:08] <charles|64> hey guys, is there a game in the repos similar to homeworld?
[19:08] <gurpreet> how can i specify my own shortcuts in gnome?
[19:09] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, hrm. intresting. Assuming you have internet access from both I don't know whats wrong. But for some reason they can't see the other computer exists
[19:09] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: .xinitrc is a file sorry
[19:09] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: i've found out it's a firewall issue
[19:09] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, firewall. Ah, forgot about those things
[19:11] <rinaldi_> how can i mount a .mdf cd image file? gmountiso won't do it
[19:11] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, another option is symlinking the exec to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ but depending on what you need that might be overkill
[19:12] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: you mean type the path to the script and run .xinitrc from session, is that what you mean
[19:12] <CyberCod> I need help setting up a dhcp server to share a net connection
[19:12] <eth01> evening
[19:13] <Pirate_Hunter> capiCrimm: no need to symlink its a simple script only 1-2 lines no need to create symlink
[19:13] <gurpreet> how can i define my own setups in gnome?
[19:13] <Pirate_Hunter> eth01: 'ello
[19:13] <gurpreet> my own shortcuts*
[19:13] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, I'd go with dtolj's suggesting of xinitrc
[19:13] <CyberCod> rinaldi_: acetone might be able to do it
[19:13] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: No, you dont have to run it. Its called when you start X, just create the file in your $HOME and add your script in there.
[19:13] <capiCrimm> now that I've seen that
[19:13] <Ollie> Hi
[19:13] <arvind_khadri> gurpreet, System->Prefereces->Keyboard shortcuts
[19:14] <Ollie> Why is Ubuntu so much slower than Windows?
[19:14] <gurpreet> arvind_khadri, that is a fixed list, how can i add my own applications in there?
[19:14] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: ok but do i type the full path of the script inside .xinittrc?
[19:14] <arvind_khadri> gurpreet, i couldnt get u....
[19:14] <kkerwin> Ollie: Hmm. Sounds like you are having troubles with Ubuntu, and are new.
[19:14] <Ollie> Well, it is slow!
[19:15] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: yes of course
[19:15] <ritalin> ubuntu is teh bestest
[19:15] <eTranquility> Hi, I'm having some problems with media codecs.... I think. Anytime I try to play an avi or wmv all I get is colored vertical lines, and most radio streams aren't working. I can't figure out what I'm missing. How do I make sure I have everything installed?
[19:15] <Ollie> Even opening a text file is slow
[19:15] <capiCrimm> Pirate_Hunter, .xinitrc is just a bash file itself.
[19:15] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ubuntu works fine for me, in terms of speed. It seems like there are some issues specific to you that are causing problems.
[19:15] <kkerwin> Ollie: Are you currently on the live CD?
[19:15] <gurpreet> arvind_khadri, if i want to add a shortcut to open xterm, how can i do that?
[19:15] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: now i can ping the vista machine
[19:15] <dtolj> Ollie: what kind of machine do you have?
[19:16] <Ollie> kkerwin: No. It is installed to HDD.
[19:16] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: now it's time to mount it
[19:16] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: np will so, but that file dont exist in my ~/. which is weird or it must be a hardy thing :/
[19:16] <Ollie> Well I have a slow machine, but Windows XP is pretty fast on iy.
[19:16] <gurpreet> in System->Preferences->Keyboard SHortcuts, terminal is fixed to gnome-terminal, i wanna change that to xterm
[19:16] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: any ideas?
[19:16] <arvind_khadri> gurpreet u can use Alt+F2
[19:16] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: it usually dosn't you have to create it to add this feature for X window./
[19:16] <gurpreet> arvind_khadri, no, its a workaround
[19:16] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, still doesn't work? You have all ports open?
[19:17] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: i don't even know if i'm doing it right
[19:17] <kkerwin> Ollie: Indeed. I would say that maybe you have too many programs running. Hit ALT-F2, and type terminal.
[19:17] <charles|64> hey guys, is there a game in the repos similar to homeworld?
[19:17] <arvind_khadri> gurpreet, well everyone uses that,and i feel thats the only way to be done till now,or else need to get some shell-scripting done
[19:17] <eternal_p> afternoon all, I just installed VMware Server 2.0, but I cannot log into it..does anyone know what the default username and password is?
[19:17] <Ollie> I have KDE
[19:17] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: with this method "sudo mount //192.168.0.41/c /media/a-dator"
[19:17] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: ok now how do i go about doing this?
[19:17] <dtolj> charles|64: thats what I would like to know :)
[19:17] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: i get permission denied
[19:17] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. Type "konsole" instead.
[19:18] <Ollie> Btw how do I run file manager with admin priviledges
[19:18] <kkerwin> Ollie: Me too. Shh. A lot of people here use gnome. :-)
[19:18] <kkerwin> Ollie: "kdesu dolphin"
[19:18] <Ollie> Ok
[19:18] <CyberCod> ollie:  sudo nautilus or gksudo nautilus
[19:18] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: nano ~/.xinitrc
[19:18] <htmljunkie> everyone hates gnome
[19:18] <ritalin> gnome is a zionist conspiracy
[19:18] <dtolj> htmljunkie: why?
[19:18] <kkerwin> Ollie: Have you entered "ps aux" in the konsole yet?
[19:18] <charles|64> dtolj: lol yeah it would be nice not to have to pay for Cedega just to get homeworld
[19:18] <gurpreet> arvind_khadri, i worked on fluxbox and kde earlier and in both of them i could add shortcuts to apps of my choice, i am unable to find such an option here
[19:19] <htmljunkie> linus hates gnome
[19:19] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, what type of permission denied? Did you create the media folder?
[19:19] <htmljunkie> thats one reason
[19:19] <Ollie> what command is that?
[19:19] <Beastmasta> Hey guys, quick question. If I download and install the new 8.04 beta on my computer, when it is officially released in 12 days will I have to re-download it for the final release, or will it automatically update without me going to the site and manually downloading the ISOs again?
[19:19] <kkerwin> Ollie: "ps aux" is the command.
[19:19] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: yup
[19:19] <xhaleor> right-click on the desktop --> new app launcher ??
[19:19] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: & next time i login it will pick up whatever it is in it also i dont have to be in sudo
[19:19] <Ollie> kkerwin: what does it do?
[19:19] <dtolj> charles|64: last time i checked you can compile it yourself for free
[19:19] <dtolj> charles|64: Cadega that is.
[19:19]  * ritalin likt safgradag nat
[19:19] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, okay. Try this way go to Places->Connect to Server and fill that out
[19:20] <kkerwin> Ollie: It prints out a list of all of the programs that you have running. I'm going to have you cut and paste it on a webpage so that I can figure out what superfulious programs you have running.
[19:20] <arvind_khadri> gurpreet, well gnome doesnt has that option
[19:20] <kkerwin> s/superfulious/superfluous/
[19:20] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: correct: http://www.slackbook.org/html/x-window-system-xinitrc.html
[19:20] <gurpreet> yeah now i am sure :)
[19:20] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, and you need smb:///192. I believe
[19:20] <htmljunkie> anything that is easier to use or more windows like carebears will hate or cry about , gnome being easy to use for ppl
[19:20] <Ollie> kkerwin: This is a default Kubuntu install
[19:20] <arvind_khadri> Gnome is better than KDE for sure
[19:20] <Ollie> arvind_khadri: Why?
[19:20] <dtolj> arvind_khadri: i second that/
[19:21] <LjL> !offtopic
[19:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:21] <LjL> !better
[19:21] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[19:21] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, or something with smb in it. Forget exactly
[19:21] <xhaleor> correction - right-click and 'Create Launcher...'
[19:21] <arvind_khadri> dtolj, that means u r on my side??
[19:21] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: will read that
[19:21] <Beastmasta> If i download the 8.04 beta will it automatically update itself to the final when it is released?
[19:21] <kkerwin> Ollie: When you have the output from the command, "ps aux", go to www.pastebin.com and cut and paste it there.
[19:21] <Seveas> !u | arvind_khadri
[19:21] <ubotu> arvind_khadri: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[19:21] <dtolj> arvind_khadri: :)
[19:21] <gurpreet> arvind_khadri, i am unable to decide which one is better
[19:21] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: ah, it still wants a password but at least i can see the device
[19:21] <AmyRose> Does PulseAudio support OSS v4? ALSA doesn't work for me and I prefer OSS v4 anyway
[19:21] <Orbixx> Seveas: I completely agree.
[19:21] <LjL> gurpreet, dtolj, please look at the bot triggers above
[19:21] <dtolj> gurpreet: heck just try them both, thats the beauty of OpenSource
[19:21] <arvind_khadri> Ollie i jus feel that Gnome is more loghter has btter effects and stuff than KDe
[19:22] <Seveas> AmyRose, oss is obsolete but supported via pulseaudio helpers
[19:22] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, actually I think smb:/// is what you type in nautilus, but from the term you use smbmount instead of mount.
[19:22] <arvind_khadri> Seveas, sorry
[19:22] <Seveas> AmyRose, I believe the helper is padsp, it probably has a manpage with more info
[19:22] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, if windows is password protected just type in your user password
[19:22] <vix85> hi... a quick question here, how do I unzip a .zip archive on my ubuntu server?
[19:22] <Orbixx> capiCrimm: I think it's one less slash.
[19:22] <kkerwin> Ollie: Yes, I understand that it is the default install, but please cut and paste the output from "ps aux" into www.pastebin.com.
[19:22] <LjL> vix85: sudo apt-get install unzip
[19:22] <Seveas> vix85, unzip filename.zip
[19:22] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, unless you have a guest account I think it will always ask for one
[19:23] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: that's the puzzling thing, afaik vista isn't pw protected atm
[19:23] <Orbixx> vix85: unzip
[19:23] <vix85> ok thnx guys :)
[19:23] <capiCrimm> Orbixx, for what?
[19:23] <AmyRose> Seveas: I am not referring to the ancient version in the kernel. I'm referring to the newest from opensound.com
[19:23] <kkerwin> Ollie: Once you submit it, send me the URL that it gives you, and I will be able to look at what programs you have running.
[19:23] <Ollie> kkerwin: how do I copy such a long list?
[19:23] <Orbixx> capiCrimm: smb://
[19:23] <kkerwin> Ollie: Same as in Windows. Highlight the whole output with your mouse. Right-click. Then select "copy", and go from there.
[19:24] <Seveas> AmyRose, the only supported audio subsystems on modern linux distributions are alsa and more recently pulseaudio
[19:24] <capiCrimm> Orbixx, perhaps. I thought you used three, although I don't use windows so can't check
[19:24] <Odd-rationale> what number is for fat32? (82 --> ext3)
[19:24] <Seveas> hence, oss is obsolete, new version or not :)
[19:24] <kelledin> ah, well, it's nice to know what's going on with my motherboard finally.
[19:24] <AmyRose> Seveas: Then FreeBSD is obsolete too.
[19:24] <eTranquility> Hi, I'm having some problems with media codecs.... I think. Anytime I try to play an avi or wmv all I get is colored vertical lines, and most radio streams aren't working. I can't figure out what I'm missing. I've tried using Automatix but it hasn't helped.
[19:24] <Seveas> AmyRose, sorry, I meant obsolete *on linux* :)
[19:24] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, interesting
[19:24] <riddlebox> what can I do to stop my dvd player from being choppy when watching dvds?
[19:24] <Ollie> kkerwin: http://pastebin.com/m36ad9e2e
[19:25] <kelledin> now I might need an engineering hack to correct it tho.... >:-D
[19:25] <AmyRose> Seveas: But ALSA suddenly stopped working with my laptop's ac97, but oss4 still works fine with it.
[19:25] <capiCrimm> bo-dick, well maybe you'd be best following a SMB tutorial
[19:25] <kkerwin> Ollie. Thank you. I'm looking at it now.
[19:25] <dtolj> !Automatix | eTranquility
[19:25] <ubotu> eTranquility: Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[19:25] <Ollie> kkerwin: Thank YOU.
[19:25] <Seveas> AmyRose, that would be a misconfiguration or a bug :)
[19:25] <Seveas> anyway, oss is supported
[19:25] <Orbixx> riddlebox: Clean your lense and DVD. Make sure there are no micro-oscillations causing the DVD to be read incorrectly. Also, make sure the CPU isn't being killed by other processes whilst watching.
[19:25] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: prolly
[19:25] <dmsuperman> guys, what's a good default font for firefox browsing? the one that it uses normally is ugly. i'd like just like Times New Roman but that's not with ubuntu :'(
[19:26] <unop__> Odd-rationale, 0x0b
[19:26] <AmyRose> Seveas, And OSS 4 has support for the SB X-Fi, while ALSA doesn't.
[19:26] <bo-dick> capiCrimm: many thanks for your support
[19:26] <capiCrimm> np
[19:26] <Odd-rationale> unop__: ok thanks!
[19:26] <dtolj> eTranquility: i would recommend a 3rd party repo with all codecs
[19:26] <Orbixx> Guys, I'm installing Ubuntu with "unetboot" and when it begins to install after reboot, it pops up with a stack and call trace.
[19:26] <Seveas> dmsuperman, install the 'msttcorefonts' package to get that font
[19:26] <Seveas> !fonts | dmsuperman
[19:26] <ubotu> dmsuperman: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[19:26] <Orbixx> I imagine it's screwed up and is debugging?
[19:26] <dtolj> anybody know a good CD burning app for Gnome?
[19:27] <DarkSpirit221> Hi, I got this error "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. configure failed for srclib/apr" What should I do? Help please.
[19:27] <Seveas> dtolj, brasero
[19:27] <dmsuperman> Seveas, i JUST realized after the fact that it's a MS thing, so of course i have to agree to some stupid license to use it :P
[19:27] <CyberCod> dtolj: brassero is decent
[19:27] <Seveas> !compiling | DarkSpirit221
[19:27] <ubotu> DarkSpirit221: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[19:27] <Seveas> dmsuperman, not really :)
[19:27] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. Can I ask how much RAM you have?
[19:27] <kelledin> DarkSpirit221: eh...what does config.log say?
[19:27] <Ollie> kkerwin: 768MB
[19:27] <dmsuperman> Seveas, it just made me agree :P
[19:28] <Seveas> dmsuperman, but the license isn't too stupid :)
[19:28] <unop__> Odd-rationale, oddly enough, the partition number has no real effect on the filesystem that the parition will contain .. i.e. you can have a parition with number 0x82 (linux) and format it as ntfs
[19:28] <hiffy> hey folks, i want to watch this wmv file. What's the codec package again?
[19:28] <Seveas> hiffy, w32codecs
[19:28] <dtolj> DarkSpirit221: what were you trying to do?
[19:28] <CyberCod> how do you share an internet connection?
[19:28] <Orbixx> DarkSpirit221: apt-get install gcc++
[19:28] <Seveas> !medibuntu | hiffy
[19:28] <ubotu> hiffy: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[19:28] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. And how many gigahertz is your processor?
[19:28] <dmsuperman> Seveas, it's from microsoft, i'm sure i've somehow just signed over my soul
[19:28] <DarkSpirit221> kelledin: http://pastebin.com/m36a151e2
[19:28] <hiffy> Seveas, I know WHY it's not included, I just can't remember the package :)
[19:28] <Jaymac> DarkSpirit221: have you got build-essential installed?
[19:28] <DarkSpirit221> dtolj: Installing Apache
[19:28] <Ollie> kkerwin: 0.9
[19:29] <DarkSpirit221> Orbixx: I'll try
[19:29] <Jaymac> hiffy: you need to enable the medibuntu repository to install it :)
[19:29] <DarkSpirit221> Jaymac: What?
[19:29] <Seveas> hiffy, I gave you the packagename. The !medibuntu was just to give you the location of the package :)
[19:29] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ah. Ok.
[19:29] <hiffy> Seveas, right on
[19:29] <Orbixx> Anyone?
[19:29] <Jaymac> DarkSpirit221: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[19:29] <Orbixx> Stacks and call traces during Ubuntu installation = bad?
[19:29] <kkerwin> Ollie: And you are running KDE 3.5.9, yes?
[19:29] <dtolj> DarkSpirit221: apt-get install build-essential
[19:29] <Seveas> DarkSpirit221, don't compile apache by hand. Install it from the repositories.
[19:30] <kkerwin> Ollie: If you don't know, then the answer is most likely yes. :-)
[19:30] <Ollie> kkerwin: I don't know. It is Kubuntu 7.04
[19:30] <unop__> Orbixx, that depends on whether you want to act on that info or not .. ususally to the average user, thats a bad thing
[19:30] <hiffy> Seveas, awesome it works, thank you :)
[19:30] <kelledin> hmmm....now I have an idle hardware question
[19:30] <dtolj> DarkSpirit221: are you building Apache from source?
[19:30] <DarkSpirit221> !find apache
[19:30] <Orbixx> unop__: It doesn't give much to go on.
[19:30] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libapache2-mod-auth-pam, libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql, libapache2-mod-auth-plain, libapache2-mod-auth-sys-group (and 120 others)
[19:30] <DarkSpirit221> dtolj: Yes I was.
[19:30] <Orbixx> Just a load of hex.
[19:30] <kelledin> does anyone know of an ATX pass-through module made specifically to generate load, and nothing else?
[19:30] <unop__> Orbixx, consider it a bad thing then
[19:30] <DarkSpirit221> Seveas: So, what package should I get?
[19:30] <Seveas> DarkSpirit221, you'll want the 'apache2' package and possibly something like php or mod_python I assume
[19:31]  * Orbixx sighs.
[19:31] <dtolj> DarkSpirit221: thats a bit tricky since it has many dependencies
[19:31] <Orbixx> Will I ever get Ubuntu on this bloody laptop...
[19:31] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. What I'm going to have you do is run memtest. One moment while I do some research.
[19:31] <kelledin> or rather draw load, not generate it.  bad terminology.
[19:31] <DarkSpirit221> Seveas: I want apache for PHP, and I would like MySQL too, can you get me the package names please?
[19:31] <joel> Ollie: a memtest takes several hours so you'll have to be patient ;)
[19:31] <Ollie>  Hey, why do I need a memtest????
[19:31] <jagggy> any ubuntu alternatives for xfire?
[19:31] <magnetron> what do i type in x-chat to stop being "away" ?
[19:31] <Seveas> DarkSpirit221, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql mysql-server-5.0
[19:31] <kkerwin> joel: Thanks for adding that.
[19:31] <kelledin> Ollie: Always memtest a new system
[19:32] <Seveas> magnetron, /away
[19:32] <Ollie> My memory is fine
[19:32] <Jaymac> DarkSpirit221: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-lamp-server-installation-with-screenshots.html
[19:32] <Ollie> System isn't new
[19:32] <joel> Ollie: how do you know that?
[19:32] <Ollie> I told you with Windows XP everything is OK and fast
[19:32] <kelledin> Ollie: a lot of times there will be memory errors you don't know about, especially with home-built or upgraded systems
[19:32] <unop__> Orbixx, you could try booting the CD with the noacpi option .. perhaps it's some hardware thats causing this ?
[19:32] <kkerwin> Ollie: Memtest will check and make sure that your memory is indeed OK. Because your computer is so old, I am concerned that your RAM isn't AOK.
[19:32] <Orbixx> I'm actually installing with "unetboot".
[19:32] <joel> Ollie: Windows uses memory much different, so a problem might not be seen in windows
[19:32] <Orbixx> As the laptop has no optical drive.
[19:32] <kelledin> Ollie: plus, Linux make much more continuous use of RAM than windows.
[19:33] <Ollie> I performed memtest yesterday
[19:33] <Ollie> It was fine
[19:33] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. Very well.
[19:33] <joel> Ollie: how many times did you let it run?
[19:33] <Jaymac> DarkSpirit221: never mind, that link is for the server edition...
[19:33] <kelledin> good...then you should be good to go.
[19:33] <Ollie> 5
[19:33] <unop__> Orbixx, oh, that changes the dynamics totally - does it have any removable drives at all?
[19:33] <joel> Ollie: hmmm that's kind of minimal, I've had problems pop up on 10-15 rounds but not before.....but okay you can try to go on with it
[19:34] <riddlebox> Orbixx, I was thinking along the lines of hdparm, but for some reason it never takes hdparm -d1 /dev/scd0
[19:34] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. Another question, but I need to figure out how to get you to answer it. One moment ...
[19:34] <Jaymac> DarkSpirit221: here is a better guide.. should still be relevant: http://www.supriyadisw.net/2006/12/lamp-installation-on-ubuntu
[19:34] <joel> I'm out of the loop, what problem is Ollie experiencing?
[19:34] <dtolj> DarkSpirit221: here is another one http://www.web-tech-india.com/articles/php/compiling_php_apache/
[19:34] <magnetron> Seveas: /away doesn't make me only
[19:34] <Ollie> joel: Slow
[19:34] <kkerwin> joel: General slowness.
[19:34] <magnetron> Seveas: *online
[19:34] <kkerwin> Ollie: Do you know offhand if you have any swapspace?
[19:35] <Seveas> magnetron, it's supposed to. Do you have any scripts intercepting that command perhaps?
[19:35] <joel> Ollie: have you tried looking into if it's a grapics problem?
[19:35] <dtolj> DarkSpirit221: this is a good start but you will need to download a lot of package dependencies just to compile the damn thing.
[19:35] <Ollie> joel: no, how is that?
[19:35] <dtolj> DarkSpirit221: involves a bit of trial and error when running configure script
[19:35] <joel> Ollie: what card do you have in it
[19:36] <magnetron> Seveas: no.
[19:36] <Ollie> joel: Geforce 2
[19:36] <Seveas> magnetron, in the server tab, type: /quote away
[19:37] <magnetron> Seveas: works
[19:37] <magnetron> AmyRose: why do you CTCP me?
[19:37] <joel> Ollie: what version of Ubuntu are you working with?
[19:37] <Ollie> joel: 7
[19:37] <Ollie> .04
[19:38] <dmsuperman> What is "HTTP Cache Cleaner" and why does it keep launching?
[19:38] <Seveas> dmsuperman, it's something that runs if you enable apache
[19:38] <Seveas> 's mod_cache
[19:38] <Seveas> (afaik)
[19:38] <joel> Ollie: the first thing I would recommend is an upgrade to Gutsy ;)
[19:38] <dmsuperman> alright, makes sense
[19:38] <dmsuperman> i gotta get out of this windows way of thinking
[19:38] <dmsuperman> first thoughts were
[19:38] <dmsuperman> VIRUS
[19:39] <Seveas> hehehe
[19:39] <dmsuperman> alright here's one
[19:39] <Ollie> joel: No other way?
[19:39] <dmsuperman> i've got virtual box
[19:39] <Ollie> I find it hard to upgrade the OS every half an year
[19:39] <joel> Ollie: I would just start there, it might be an easy fix and Hardy is coming out soon so it'll be a good step
[19:40] <Scunizi> Ollie, you're fast running out of support for that version with Hardy being released in 14 days or so.. so you can upgrade to Gutsy now and to Hardy later..
[19:40] <joel> Ollie: Why? Just make a separate partition mounted to / it's easy to upgrade
[19:40] <dmsuperman> and it allows me to only select /dev/cdrom for the cdrom drive. my actual cd rom is in /dev/cdrom1 though, is it possible to like switch them or something?
[19:40] <kkerwin> Ollie: You can upgrade to Gutsy without having to wipe your harddrive. All it is is an upgrade to the software on your harddrive.
[19:40] <Seveas> dmsuperman, isn't /dev/cdrom a symlink to /dev/cdrom1 ?
[19:40] <sdfs> way
[19:41] <kkerwin> Ollie: One moment ...
[19:41] <sdfs> sdsd
[19:41] <Scunizi> !upgrade | Ollie
[19:41] <ubotu> Ollie: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:41] <dmsuperman> Seveas, no, /dev/scd0
[19:41] <Ollie> ok
[19:41] <VikDAkinG> hi can someone help me install ubuntu
[19:41] <zelrikriando> eh how good is hardy?
[19:41] <VikDAkinG> is there a tutorial or something
[19:41] <Liamm> VikDAkinG
[19:41] <joel> Hardy is still beta, but it's good
[19:41] <joel> I've been using it for a month or so
[19:41] <VikDAkinG> yes?
[19:41] <Liamm> what do you need help with
[19:41] <armyof12monkeyss> hey hey whats going on???
[19:41] <dmsuperman> VikDAkinG, just run the livecd
[19:41] <Jack_Sparrow> VikDAkinG, Insert cd and boot your system
[19:41] <Scunizi> !install | VikDAkinG
[19:41] <ubotu> VikDAkinG: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[19:41] <VikDAkinG> well i downloaded the ISO
[19:41] <Seveas> dmsuperman, ls -la /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrom1 /dev/scd0
[19:42] <Seveas> and pastebin that :)
[19:42] <dmsuperman> VikDAkinG, the installer is self explanatory
[19:42] <Liamm> put the cd in your drive reboot and press
[19:42] <Liamm> f8
[19:42] <VikDAkinG> idk because it just put an iso file on my desktop
[19:42] <Liamm> then boot to your cd drive
[19:42] <Liamm> oh
[19:42] <VikDAkinG> and then i copied it into a CD
[19:42] <Liamm> u need to burn it to cd then
[19:42] <VikDAkinG> i did
[19:42] <Liamm> k
[19:42] <joel> or put it on a flash drive ;)
[19:42] <joel> much faster that way
[19:42] <tobizaz> kust installed my nvidia drivers and got them too work, but when i rebooted it says unable to initialize kernel module..
[19:42] <VikDAkinG> but it still just shows .isoo file
[19:42] <Liamm> you need the cd in your drive
[19:42] <Liamm> when you reboot
[19:42] <dmsuperman> Seveas, cdrom -> scd0, cdrom1 -> scd1
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> VikDAkinG, burn it as an image, dont just put the iso on a cd
[19:42] <VikDAkinG> oh ok
[19:42] <tobizaz> any ideas on how to solve that ?
[19:42] <Scunizi> VikDAkinG, if you're on windows you'll need to burn the ISO as an image not DATA.. someone here may be able to recommend a win program for burning ISO's
[19:43] <Orbixx> unop__: Sorry, went AFK. You still around?
[19:43] <VikDAkinG> oh any programs to do that?
[19:43] <Seveas> dmsuperman, it's the -a bit's i'm interested in (the inode numbers)
[19:43] <VikDAkinG> that people can recommend
[19:43] <Liamm> nero
[19:43] <Liamm> or something
[19:43] <VikDAkinG> oh ok
[19:43] <Seveas> err, not inode numbers, device numbers
[19:43] <Jack_Sparrow> VikDAkinG, I like to use isorecorder.. freeware for windows iso burning
[19:43] <Liamm> just open the .iso in nero
[19:43] <VikDAkinG> oh thanks alot
[19:43] <Liamm> and it will burn the image to cd
[19:43] <dmsuperman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      4 2008-04-12 01:18 /dev/cdrom -> scd0
[19:43] <dmsuperman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root      4 2008-04-12 01:18 /dev/cdrom1 -> scd1
[19:43] <dmsuperman> brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2008-04-12 01:17 /dev/scd0
[19:43] <amortvigil> Hey does anyone have a good tutorial for starting with anjuta / glade / c++
[19:43] <kkerwin> Ollie: If you would like to upgrade, I would recommend the instructions here, instead: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[19:44] <EYE-OF-RA> BEGINNITIO REVELATIONEM
[19:44] <EYE-OF-RA> DECODE BIBLIA
[19:44] <EYE-OF-RA> Revel - Abraham is associated with the Egyptian pharaoh Amenemhat I (translates: amen is the head) who worshiped the god Amun (Amen). Abraham god then be associated with in the Abrahamic religions god as amun, amon, omon, amen and the deity aamon. Abraham/Amenemhet I
[19:44] <FloodBot1> EYE-OF-RA: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <EYE-OF-RA> Revel - Jacob = King Yakubher
[19:44] <EYE-OF-RA> Revel - Moses = Thutmose III
[19:44] <dmsuperman> wtf was that
[19:44] <Scunizi> bot,, flod script.. or something
[19:44] <VikDAkinG> by the way i had a question.. In your opinion do you think Ubuntu is the most compatible of all Linux OS's with software?
[19:44] <dmsuperman> i believe we all just got hexed
[19:45] <Xang> dmsuperman: heh.
[19:45] <dmsuperman> VikDAkinG, it's certainly one of the easiest to use, imo
[19:45] <Seveas> dmsuperman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox#head-a196ad43d111074227565f8abe1e7175187f1bf2
[19:45] <Seveas> doesn't that window give you the correct cdrom?
[19:45] <StPatrick> If I have already installed Ubuntu 7.10 across my entire hard drive, how would I go about Installing XP in a new partition?
[19:45] <kkerwin> Ollie: Are you still with me?
[19:45] <StPatrick> To dual boot.
[19:45] <dmsuperman> Seveas, i've already got a vm
[19:45] <Seveas> dmsuperman, it's possible that you can only change that while the vm is powered down
[19:45] <moe_> Hallo welt
[19:46] <Seveas> hello moe_
[19:46] <dmsuperman> Seveas, the section you sent me is to setup a vm
[19:46] <dmsuperman> Seveas, i already have one, i just need to be able to change the cdrom drive it lets me use
[19:46] <dmsuperman> Seveas, however, it only gave me the option for /media/cdrom
[19:46] <Jack_Sparrow> StPatrick, run livecd, create a couple partitions .. install xp on the first partition and reiunstall ubuntu on one of the others.
[19:46] <tobizaz> kust installed my nvidia drivers and got them too work, but when i rebooted it says unable to initialize kernel module.. any ideas on how to solve that ?
[19:46] <Seveas> dmsuperman, even if powered down?
[19:46] <dmsuperman> Seveas, yes
[19:47] <dmsuperman> Seveas, and i meant /dev/cdrom
[19:47] <Ollie> kkerwin: Yes?
[19:47] <VikDAkinG> dang lol i got to find another writeable CD now
[19:47] <VikDAkinG> :(
[19:47] <Seveas> I'm going to stick with "odd"
[19:49] <StPatrick> Jack_Sparrow,  I did that once before, and when computer booted, I didn't get an option for XP, Ubuntu just booted : ( My windows install was lost.
[19:49] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. What do you want to do? Do you want to upgrade?
[19:49] <dmsuperman> Seveas, i have 2 drives, but the one i need is cdrom1, not cdrom0
[19:49] <StPatrick> Jack_Sparrow, Do the partitions need to be certain types, etc?
[19:49] <StPatrick> Jack_Sparrow,  Is it possible to do it without losing my current Ubuntu install?
[19:49] <Zambezi> Seveas: May I bother you in PM for like two minutes?
[19:49] <Seveas> dmsuperman, http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/646
[19:49] <Ollie> kkerwin: I will but later.
[19:49] <Seveas> Zambezi, there are more people in here so a better chance for help if you ask in the channel :)
[19:49] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. Let me ask you to enter some more commands into your konsole. Do you still have the konsole open?
[19:49] <ghost3> very simple question yet can find no answer... how can i convert and avi to dvd so i can burn it with k3b?
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> StPatrick, yes, it can be done..  see !clone ...   but if you do not have much time in custom settings, it might be easier to flush it and do a fresh install.. burn /var/cache/apt/archives to a cd to save yourself some time later
[19:49] <dmsuperman> damn...
[19:49] <Zambezi> Seveas: I don't think it's a good idea asking in main. You'll understand why. :-)
[19:49] <Ollie> kkerwin: yes
[19:49] <kkerwin> Ollie: Ok. Type and enter "top".
[19:49] <Seveas> dmsuperman, note that that buf has been marked fixed only two months ago, so ubuntu 7.10 will not have the fix
[19:49] <Pirate_Hunter> where would i find the file .xinit?
[19:49] <Seveas> Zambezi, then feel free to pm :)
[19:49] <bo-dick> apparently one must have a password for the vista account if one wants to mount it from ubuntu over network
[19:50] <dmsuperman> Seveas, any clue how i might get the fixed version?
[19:50] <kkerwin> Ollie: I'm looking for the line that says "Swap:". Cut and paste that whole line right here on IRC, please.
[19:50] <dtolj> Pirate_Hunter: did it work?
[19:50] <Seveas> none whatsoever, sorry
[19:50] <VikDAkinG> By the way, how do i remove WinXP totally from my computer?
[19:50] <dmsuperman> VikDAkinG, just delete the partition with the installer
[19:50] <ghost3> can anyone give me a hint on how to convert an avi to dvd?
[19:50] <dmsuperman> VikDAkinG, and create your new partitions
[19:50] <VikDAkinG> oh ok thanks
[19:50] <StPatrick> Jack_Sparrow,  Thanks
[19:50] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:51] <dmsuperman> i just realized something
[19:51] <dmsuperman> how is it
[19:51] <StPatrick> Jack_Sparrow,  Think I'm just gonna give up on linux. For now anyway
[19:51] <kkerwin> ghost3: VLC, I think, is the name of a good program.
[19:51] <dmsuperman> we have both Jack_Sparrow and Pirate_Hunter in t he same channel and there isn't crazy battles going on
[19:51] <VikDAkinG> ghost3, Im sure there is conversion software on the web
[19:51] <VikDAkinG> Google?
[19:51] <ghost3> for linux?
[19:51] <dmsuperman> yeah, for linux is the problem
[19:51] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: dont know im currently doing it since i had to do something, the link you gave me states for me to copy details from the default xinit and copy them to xinitrc which is what im trying to find out
[19:51] <dmsuperman> it's hard enough finding a good one for windows
[19:51] <VikDAkinG> oh ok
[19:51] <kkerwin> Ollie: Do you have that "Swap:" line?
[19:52] <VikDAkinG> lol 1 sec lemme try to find
[19:52] <ghost3> brb
[19:52] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: I dont have a problem using that version on the link but i might stop things assigned automatically from starting
[19:52] <sdsad> sas
[19:52] <Pirate_Hunter> dmsuperman: what do you mean by that? why would there be a fight :/
[19:52] <Orbixx> Good grammar, punctuation, spelling and vocabulary is so hard to come by these days...
[19:53] <Seveas> sdsad, could you please stop spewing random nonsense in hete
[19:53] <dmsuperman> Pirate_Hunter, you're a pirate hunter, and Jack_Sparrow is a pirate
[19:53] <Seveas> here*
[19:53] <dmsuperman> :P
[19:53] <Pirate_Hunter> Orbixx: yes it is funny enough most irc clients come with dictionary
[19:53] <dragisa> pozdrav  svima
[19:53] <Pirate_Hunter> dmsuperman: i wish i could remember the ignore command it would be useful right now :D
[19:53] <ghost3> hmmm, only one i can see is for wine. ill try that and tell ya how it goes.
[19:53] <Orbixx> I loathe having to decipher the encryptions of laziness.
[19:54] <dmsuperman> Pirate_Hunter, jeesh, sorry for making a single comment :S
[19:54] <Orbixx> dmsuperman: It was an ignorant comment.
[19:54]  * kkerwin sighs.
[19:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[19:54] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:55] <VikDAkinG> http://www.free-codecs.com/download/super.htm
[19:55] <Pirate_Hunter> does any one know where the default xinitrc file in ubuntu not the one in ~/.
[19:55] <kkerwin> Heh. And I had JUST figured out what his problem was. He was running a parallel KDE session as ROOT.
[19:55] <VikDAkinG> here is the program to convert AVI to DVD
[19:55] <armyof12monkeyss> i cant get my wireless card working with unbuntu!!!!
[19:55] <Orbixx> Oh dear.
[19:55] <VikDAkinG> Im pretty sure that should work
[19:55] <Orbixx> armyof12monkeyss: Remove the excessive exclamation marks and try again.
[19:55] <Pirate_Hunter> dmsuperman: like Jack_Sparrow has stated its not a question
[19:55] <dmsuperman> Orbixx, not every comment in this channel has related to ubuntu. i wasn't spamming, i sent a single line. your life isn't going to end because of it. chill out, it's only the internet
[19:55] <Seveas> !wifi | armyof12monkeyss looked here?
[19:55] <ubotu> armyof12monkeyss looked here?: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:56] <VikDAkinG> ok bye guys wish me luck going to go install Ubuntu :D!!!
[19:56] <dmsuperman> Seveas, is it cool to pm you?
[19:56] <dmsuperman> VikDAkinG, good luck :D
[19:56] <Seveas> VikDAkinG, good luck
[19:56] <VikDAkinG> ty
[19:56] <Seveas> dmsuperman, all the cool kids are doing it, so it's way cool :)
[19:56] <armyof12monkeyss> yeah so can i get some help????????????//
[19:56] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, maybe, why don't you start by describing the problem
[19:56] <Pelo> good afternoon folks
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> armyof12monkeyss, If you dont tell us what hardware you are using you will not get far with help.
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey Pelo
[19:57] <Orbixx> armyof12monkeyss: What chipset does the wireless card use?
[19:57] <armyof12monkeyss> I cant get my wireless card to work on ubuntu
[19:57] <Pelo> as anyone here courageously attempted the grub-gfx modification ?
[19:57] <armyof12monkeyss> uhhh
[19:57]  * Pelo pokes Jack_Sparrow 
[19:57] <armyof12monkeyss> im not sure the chipset
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > armyof12monkeyss
[19:57] <Orbixx> Broadcom, atheros?
[19:57] <aoupi> how can I spin the cube upside down?
[19:57] <armyof12monkeyss> is there a command i can run to tell?
[19:57] <Pelo> armyof12monkeyss, look it up on the maker's website
[19:57] <Pelo> armyof12monkeyss, or try lspci
[19:57] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, is it usb or internal?
[19:57] <Orbixx> armyof12monkeyss: If you can tell us the model number, you can find out on Google easily enough.
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> lshw .. lspci...  lsusb
[19:58] <Gigi70> what is better kubuntu or pclinuxos?
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > Gigi70,
[19:58] <bnex10> hey
[19:58] <Gigi70> sorry
[19:58] <bnex10> i notice that there is a package for my ATi Rage Card
[19:58] <tuxus> Gigi70: try them both, you decide
[19:58] <bnex10> it's called xserver-xorg-video-ati-dbg
[19:58] <bnex10> should I try that?
[19:58] <Gigi70> ok ty
[19:59] <Pelo> bnex10, use the restricted driver manager in the admin menu
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Gigi70, install both.. dual boot. if you want
[19:59] <armyof12monkeyss> broadcom corpration bcm4328 802.11
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !bcm43
[19:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bcm43 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:59] <Gigi70> sounds like a plan jack
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !bcm43xx
[19:59] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[19:59] <armyof12monkeyss> bcm4328
[19:59] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, ah, broadcom....
[19:59] <Orbixx> Exactly how expansive is ubotu, it seems to know no bounds?
[19:59] <armyof12monkeyss> yeah
[19:59] <bnex10> Pelo, ok i'm looking at restricted driver manger
[20:00] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, system -> administration -> restricted drivers
[20:00] <armyof12monkeyss> its a dell laptop
[20:00] <bnex10> pelo, but the card is not in the system
[20:00] <Pelo> Orbixx, expansive in what sense ?
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> armyof12monkeyss, I used fwcutter on my dells with bcm43xx
[20:00] <Seveas> that should have a button for you to download the firmware it needs
[20:00] <Seveas> Jack_Sparrow, (bcm43xx is now called b43)
[20:00] <Orbixx> Pelo: In the sense that it covers practically every question and every topic.
[20:00] <bnex10> pelo, and i get this: "Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers."
[20:00] <Pelo> bnex10, do you know what video driver you are using atm ?   look in the xorg.conf file that will tell you
[20:00] <armyof12monkeyss> in restriced drivers i only see the graphics driver
[20:00] <bnex10> i get nothing
[20:00] <Pirate_Hunter> dtolj: found it good thing i didnt use that example .xinitr and yeah thanx for the locate command it came in handy
[20:00] <alex-weej> what packages are snd_ drivers supposed to be in? i don't appear to have any
[20:01] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, then you'll have to go the fwcutter route -- sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[20:01] <Pelo> Orbixx, well, it's been tweaked and added to over the years
[20:01] <bnex10> pelo, if i put the card in, it doesn't work
[20:01] <chejrw> i <3 ubuntu
[20:01] <bnex10> me too, but kubuntu is better
[20:01] <Jadd76> does anyone know a way to throttle Apache's bandwidth speed? I want to simulate a slow connection on my desktop
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> chejrw, Please ask your question and try to stay on topic
[20:02] <Seveas> Jadd76, iptables trickery or traffic shaping
[20:02] <armyof12monkeyss> can you tell me hot to DL the drivers again
[20:02] <Pelo> bnex10, that's normal ,  you need to reconfigure xserver to make it work , put it in , boot the recovery mode,  type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , and follow the instructions, always pick the default answer unless you absolutely know betterr
[20:02] <armyof12monkeyss> i am new with this
[20:02] <hobbzilla> Hey all, I'm having an issue printing to my printer via the samba share AND straight lpr from the CLI
[20:02] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[20:02]  * Pelo 's fingers are frozen and he can'T type 
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> armyof12monkeyss, he gave you the command above
[20:02] <chejrw> My dad wants to buy a new computer.  He is deciding between OSX, Vista, and Ubuntu.
[20:02] <chejrw> He mainly does business stuff.
[20:03] <chejrw> spreadsheets, documents, email
[20:03] <armyof12monkeyss> i just write that in the terminal?
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[20:03] <chejrw> which one should he get
[20:03] <Pelo> chejrw, tell him to forget about vista
[20:03] <Seveas> chejrw, whichever he prefers
[20:03] <hobbzilla> I have a Brother DCP-7020 that was auto setup with cups.. but all print jobs from lpr or cups admin interface (http) simply show "completed" without ever printing the page.
[20:03] <hobbzilla> Any suggestions?
[20:03] <armyof12monkeyss> ok thanks... ill be back
[20:03] <chejrw> He knows nothing about computers
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> chejrw, ubuntu or osx ...  never vista
[20:03] <chejrw> ok
[20:03] <Jadd76> Seveas: is that really necessary? I'll only be accessing the site from localhost
[20:03] <chejrw> why not vista?
[20:03] <Seveas> chejrw, though if he needs a lot of office 2007 things, sadly XP with office 2007 is the better route
[20:04] <tobizaz> kust installed my nvidia drivers and got them too work, but when i rebooted it says unable to initialize kernel module.. any ideas on how to solve that ?
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> chejrw, THis isnt the discussion room.. it is for support.. thanks
[20:04] <chejrw> sorry
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[20:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:04] <Pelo> chejrw, google for it , it is full of articles stating that vista is not mature , too bulky and poorly implemented, without enough drivers
[20:04] <Seveas> Jack_Sparrow, well, he asked for support with his decision :)
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Cute
[20:04] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  I didn'T think it was that offtopic myself,
[20:04] <Seveas> Jack_Sparrow, 't wasn't really a generic "which is better" question. Let's call it borderline ot ;)
[20:05]  * Pelo thinks we've been getting a bit trigger happy with the !ot recently , not to point the finger at anyone specificaly
[20:05]  * platyhelminth loves cats.
[20:05] <D3RGPS31> how do i get /usr/share/binfmt-support/run-detectors support for .exe files (i was told to come here) using wine
[20:05] <armyof12monkeyss> Once i i run the command it dls and extracts the file. Then what do i have to do?
[20:05] <bnex10> pelo, should i put the card in then run the command you told me
[20:05] <bnex10> ?
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Where did I pout that BAN button....?  :)
[20:05] <Pelo> armyof12monkeyss, which command ? apt-get ? the it is installed as well
[20:06] <Pelo> bnex10, if you wish it to be detected .... I would say yes
[20:06] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, if that command is done, please copy-paste all the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[20:06] <armyof12monkeyss> yes i think so
[20:06] <bnex10> pelo, ok i'm going to reboot
[20:06]  * Pelo hides Jack_Sparrow ' s ban button along with the kick boot
[20:06]  * D3RGPS31 hides the hidden stuff under the beer
[20:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, You will probably see a lot more !ot once we are chasing our tails supporting HArdy
[20:07] <Seveas> Jack_Sparrow, :)
[20:07] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, I know ,but we are at the end of a release cycle here, let's relax
[20:07] <gerro> How do I make /var/log/Xorg.0.log go from saying this "(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)" to saying this "(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)"
[20:07] <Chri4> How do I get ubuntu to detect a new usb device (a webcam)?
[20:07] <armyof12monkeyss> ok i pasted jt tbere
[20:07] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow,  in anycase I wasn'T talking about you ,  a lot of "newer" ppl have been using it left and right
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> If my wife wants to hide anything, she puts it below knee level...   Now that is ot
[20:07] <armyof12monkeyss> you want a link??
[20:08] <Seveas> Chri4, try to run the 'cheese' program to see if the webcam was detected
[20:08] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, yes please
[20:08] <Pelo> !webcam > Chri4 check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[20:08] <bnex10> going to do something, and have to reboot
[20:08] <armyof12monkeyss> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62959/
[20:08] <Pelo> Seveas, this isn'T the hardy channel,  cheese is not in gutsy
[20:08] <Bravewolf> How can I enable linux frame buffer? /dev/fb is unvailable...
[20:08] <gerro> Chri4: plug it up and run lshw and lsusb check what it says about the cam and what drivers it has loaded for it, is it unclaimed or what?
[20:08] <Seveas> Pelo, good catch.
[20:08] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, looks good
[20:09] <Pelo> can I haz ops now ?
[20:09] <armyof12monkeyss> so now what do i do?
[20:09] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, can you use your wireless now (or maybe after a reboot)?
[20:09] <Chri4> ok - thanks
[20:09] <armyof12monkeyss> i didnt see it ill try a reboot
[20:09] <dtolj> :P
[20:10] <gerro> So anyone know how to setup acpid.socket?
[20:10] <Pelo> gerro, try looking it up in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[20:10] <Pirate_Hunter> can conky tell you if you have mail?
[20:10] <Pelo> Pirate_Hunter, yes , tehre are script to put in it
[20:10] <Pelo> Pirate_Hunter, try asking in #conky
[20:11] <Pelo> Pirate_Hunter, but I prefer gnubiff as a mail checker
[20:11] <gerro> Pelo: I have but I get spammed by log posts completely irrelevant, where do I look for info about acpid?
[20:11] <falieson> how do I upgrade my ktorrent to ktorrent 3.0 - can I do it through the synaptic package manager?
[20:11] <Pirate_Hunter> Pelo: where do i find conky scripts, ive been looking for the weather one and i would like the mail as well
[20:11] <Pirate_Hunter> Pelo: what does gnubiff offer
[20:11] <Seveas> !info ktorrent
[20:11] <ubotu> ktorrent (source: ktorrent): BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 2698 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[20:11] <Seveas> !info ktorrent hardy
[20:11] <ubotu> ktorrent (source: ktorrent): BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.5-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 2711 kB, installed size 10316 kB
[20:11] <yuri_> Q: I upgraded my Firefox to v3 beta 4, and I'm having some problems with it. is there a simple way to downgrade to beta 3?
[20:11] <Seveas> falieson, I'm afraid not
[20:12] <Pelo> Pirate_Hunter, the weather one is in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org  search for conky weather  ,  you can also ask in #conky, generaly you better google for conky stuff and check on their site
[20:12] <IndyGunFreak> yuri_: not really.. probably easiest to back up your bookmarks uninstall, then do a clean install of the stable version.. i had probs w/ the beta to.
[20:12] <Pelo> yuri_, upgrade to beta 5
[20:12] <Jack_Sparrow> I could use some help with roms and gxmame
[20:12] <yuri_> IndyGunFreak: thanks for the tip
[20:12] <Pirate_Hunter> Pelo: :( will do again but yeha thanx, #conky is a dead channel right now
[20:12] <yuri_> Pelo: is it in the repos?
[20:12] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, are those users ?
[20:13] <Pelo> yuri_, it's default in hardy isnT' it ?
[20:13] <yuri_> Pelo: im in gutsy
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, gxmame is front end for all of the arcade games
[20:13] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: 0_o omg i forgot about mame thanx for reminding me
[20:13] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, ok sorry
[20:13] <falieson> boo
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, IT works great..
[20:14]  * Pelo is just wasting time until drwho starts downloading 
[20:14] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[20:14]  * Pelo also points our that Demonoid is back 
[20:14] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: i know i used it if feisty and sometimes on gutsy but dont know about the online multilayer feature
[20:14] <Comicality> Hello, I'm having some problems with NVIDIA drivers on Ubuntu. Can anyone give me a hand?
[20:15] <MrGnu> Hello all, i need help.  i just built a rig, and its a far cry from my  my old cmputer....  But its core2duo processor with dual sli and six cis of memory.  I want go go ahead and use my ubuntu, but longhorn ( vista) took away my VISTA, can anyone help me and can i upgrade xrom 32 to 64 without burning an ISO?
[20:15] <hobbzilla> I have a printer issue. Printing from windows via my Samba shared printer running Ubuntu Gutsy works fine (so long as I use the correct Windows driver). However I can't print to the Ubuntu connected Brother DCP-7020 printer connected via USB from Ubuntu itself.. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
[20:15] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, I'm just trying to spend my time constructively,  last time I got bored I upgraded to hardy beta ...
[20:15] <kkerwin> Comicality: Go ahead and ask your question, and someone will help you if they can.
[20:15] <coach_z> how do i get the clock in terminal to be the same as my clock on my computer because terminal is like 5 hours in advance
[20:15] <MrGnu> Correction longhorn took my ubuntu away
[20:15] <Pelo> hobbzilla, check that it is detedted on plugin from the removable media applet in prefs
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, I have not tried the online multiplayer feature..
[20:16] <hobbzilla> Pelo: my Ubuntu server/workstation is headless.
[20:16] <hobbzilla> Pelo: SSH access only.
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, may I pm?
[20:16] <armyof12monkeyss> Well i am back and the wireless isnt working :[
[20:17] <Pelo> MrGnu, do you mean you installed vista after ubuntu ?
[20:17] <Comicality> Well, I've looked at various FAQs and guides online, including the official one, and they all tell me to enable the NVIDIA driver through restricted drivers, but when I go there it doesn't say there are any drivers that are restricted. I try to install it through the terminal and it says I don't have the libc header files installed or something. How can I get my video drivers installed, then?
[20:17] <Pelo> hobbzilla, over my head then , sorry , try the forum
[20:17] <MrGnu> Pelo: yes
[20:17] <cringo> I have a simple hardware question.  the base of a heat sink doesn't have to completely cover the processor?
[20:17] <hobbzilla> I have been able to print (albeit blank pages) if I change the printer PPD definitions to a generic LJ printer vs. the Brother DCP-7025 included with this version of cups.
[20:18] <Pelo> MrGnu, the easiest way is to dl the supergrub cd , and fix stage 1 using that ,  it 's menues it's farily easy
[20:18] <Pelo> !grub | MrGnu this is the hard way , I never managed it
[20:18] <ubotu> MrGnu this is the hard way , I never managed it: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[20:18] <hobbzilla> cringo: It _should_ completely cover the "Core" area of a processor.
[20:18] <cringo> ah, i see
[20:18] <armyof12monkeyss> Is Seveas still here???
[20:18] <Jack_Sparrow> cringo, Just the metal contact point
[20:19] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, yes
[20:19] <hobbzilla> cringo: most cpus have heatspreaders on the proc now-a-days and the core is not visible.
[20:19] <cringo> it's... closer to one edge though
[20:19] <armyof12monkeyss> hey! hahaha
[20:19] <cringo> frickin heat sink was a pain
[20:19] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: pm me yeha why not but i havent got mame installed yet
[20:19] <armyof12monkeyss> still no luck, any other ideas?
[20:19]  * platyhelminth loves linux.
[20:20] <hobbzilla> cringo: you will have to have some sort of thermal compound or "sticky pad" to allow the transfer of heat to the heatsink from the core.
[20:20] <Comicality> Any ideas as far as my problem goes?
[20:20] <cringo> so it doesn't matter that it's covering one side of the processor more than the other, as opposed to being right in the middle?
[20:20] <MrGnu> Pelo: what is the easy way?
[20:20]  * D3RGPS31 loves tux... alot ^/^
[20:20] <GIn> how do I add a new partition to my system in such a way that gnome mounts it for me and let me read and write from/to it?
[20:20] <djm_> exit
[20:20] <Jack_Sparrow> cringo, heat sinks are processor specific.  dont risk your processor over a used sink/fan
[20:21] <Pelo> MrGnu, download the supergrub cd , http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/ burn , boot,  restore stage 1
[20:21] <hobbzilla> cringo: so long as you have a good heatsink that is making contact with the area directly over the core AND there is some sort of transfer agent that fills in the microscopic gaps between the core or heat spreader and the heatsink you should be okay if it is not "symmetrical"
[20:22] <Bravewolf> How can I enable linux frame buffer on Ubuntu (/dev/fb)?
[20:22] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, try this command and pastebin the output: sudo iwlist scan
[20:22] <MrGnu> Pelo: i ll try that
[20:23] <Toznoshio> Q: What software can I use to join / concatenate several video files?
[20:24] <Starnestommy> Bravewolf: you may want to look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652038
[20:24] <Scunizi> Toznoshio, check out Lives! at www.getdeb.net.. It's a fast moving project that has lots of promise
[20:24] <dmsuperman> GIn, what filesystem is it?
[20:24] <vinconzo> hi
[20:24] <armyof12monkeyss> dosnt look good.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62960/
[20:25] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, indeed it doesn't
[20:25] <Seveas> pastebin the last screen of output from the dmesg command
[20:25] <phil66> Is it possible to add 4 workspaces to a Cairo-dock launcher
[20:25] <bnex10[ppc]> pelo
[20:25] <armyof12monkeyss> hehehe should i take the rock to the laptop?
[20:25] <Toznoshio> Scunizi: thanks, I'll check  it out
[20:25] <armyof12monkeyss> caveman style!
[20:25] <platyhelminth> how to change the default browser used by X-Chat ?
[20:25] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, :)
[20:25] <vinconzo> armyof12monkeyss, are you sure eth0 is your wifi interface?
[20:26] <Scunizi> Toznoshio, np.. video in linux is always an adventure.. there's lots out there but not all of it viable.
[20:26] <vinconzo> armyof12monkeyss, maybe it's eth1
[20:26] <armyof12monkeyss> i believe so
[20:26] <dmsuperman> platyhelminth, System -> Preferences -> Preferred applications
[20:26] <Pelo> bnex10[ppc], what ? sorry I was afk
[20:26] <armyof12monkeyss> i dont know really im new to all of this
[20:26] <bnex10[ppc]> "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" autodetect only detect the d*** onboard \sard
[20:26] <bnex10[ppc]> card*
[20:26] <Seveas> platyhelminth, what dmsuperman said, or edit ~/.xchat/urlhandlers.conf
[20:26] <rinaldi_> anyone use psxe? i have mounted an image iso and done "run cd" but it says it's not a playstation format disc...
[20:27] <dmsuperman> Seveas, for once it's easier just to use the GUI, it's a simple drop-down then hit save :P
[20:27] <Pelo> bnex10[ppc],do you want to use both ? or only the new one ? , in any case it might be that you need to enable the AGP card in the bios first
[20:27] <Bravewolf> Starnestommy: thanks. I'm gong to read.
[20:27] <Seveas> dmsuperman, true that :)
[20:27] <Bravewolf> *going
[20:27] <Chri4> Trying to install a usb webcam.  lsusb shows "Bus 002 Device 003: ID 093a:2468 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Easy Snap Snake Eye WebCam".  what do  do next?
[20:27] <bnex10[ppc]> pelo, the new one
[20:27] <rinaldi_> i mean pcsx
[20:27] <Pelo> bnex10[ppc], if you only want the new card disable the onboard in the bios as well
[20:27] <phil66> Is it possible to add 4 workspaces to cairo-dock launcher
[20:27] <bnex10[ppc]> pelo, and there is no AGP port
[20:28] <bnex10[ppc]> and BIOS suck
[20:28] <dmsuperman> wow
[20:28] <Pelo> bnex10[ppc], disable the onboard one then
[20:28] <armyof12monkeyss> what if i bought a wireless card the plugs into the side of this thing
[20:28] <bnex10[ppc]> how?
[20:28] <dmsuperman> it's cool to have a cpu graph running while installing windows
[20:28] <armyof12monkeyss> thats kinda pointless tho
[20:28] <dmsuperman> virtualbox is awesome \m/
[20:28] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, pastebin the last screen of output from the dmesg command
[20:28] <armyof12monkeyss> i know it works
[20:28] <bnex10[ppc]> smashing it?
[20:28] <vinconzo> armyof12monkeyss, open a terminal window and type  "lspci |grep wifi" or  "lspci |grep Wireless"
[20:28] <Orbixx> #ubuntu: http://www.lookbehind.eu/12042008284.jpg - Appears during initial loading screen of Ubuntu 7.10 pre-installation.
[20:28] <Seveas> vinconzo, it's a broadcom, we're that far already :)
[20:29] <vinconzo> ok
[20:29] <Carter> greetings everyone
[20:29] <hobbzilla> FYI: I solved my DCP-7020 by selecting HL1250 (recommened) PPD file from the list as discussed on a site I found. And it works.
[20:29] <Pelo> dmsuperman, you are installing xp in a virtual machine ? is it an oem cd ? you'll have issues authorizing
[20:29] <Seveas> Orbixx, looks like a broken cd. have you run the selftest?
[20:29] <dmsuperman> Pelo: pro corperate
[20:29] <bnex10[ppc]> pelo, i cant disable onboard card
[20:29] <Pelo> dmsuperman, you should be find then
[20:29] <armyof12monkeyss> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62961/ ok check that out
[20:29] <dmsuperman> Pelo: aye :P
[20:29] <but_psycho> hi guys
[20:29] <Orbixx> It's an ISO installation from unetbootin.
[20:29] <Pelo> bnex10[ppc], are you sure ? should be in the bios somewhere
[20:29] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm looking for up-to-date instructions on setting up beryl/compiz with my Radeon 9600 Mobility (fglrx).
[20:30] <bnex10[ppc]> Pelo, nope
[20:30] <dmsuperman> Pelo: and if not, I could run this "crack-windows-for-validation.exe" in the disk
[20:30] <Orbixx> Seveas: Laptop is lacking an optical drive.
[20:30] <but_psycho> can anyone help set up the internet on ubuntu?
[20:30] <bo-dick> what language is sh script?
[20:30] <Orbixx> It's an ISO installation from unetbootin.
[20:30] <Carter> I have a bit of a unique problem. I'm running ubuntu via VMware, and afaik you should be able to get sound to work with VMware however its not detecting a Sound Card at all
[20:30] <kkerwin> bo-dick: Uhm. SH.
[20:30] <bnex10[ppc]> Pelo, the BIOS is dated 1999
[20:30] <Pelo> dmsuperman, shssssss
[20:30] <dmsuperman> Pelo: I did too, the first time
[20:30] <Pelo> bnex10[ppc], that means nothing
[20:30] <Seveas> Orbixx, ah. wouldn't know how 'unetbootin' works,s orry
[20:30] <dmsuperman> Pelo, and that's why i haven't paid for a ms product since
[20:30] <Carter> lspci shows me no audio, perhaps vmware has to be set up to emulate the sound card or something?
[20:30] <tuxus> but_psycho: simply post your problem
[20:31] <Pelo> dmsuperman, shut up now please and join me in #pelo
[20:31] <Orbixx> Seveas: It basically extracts the ISO to disk and has it boot on restart.
[20:31] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, that's not the info I'm looking for unfortunately. Does this give output: dmesg | grep bcm
[20:31] <Seveas> dmsuperman, piracy is a very unwelcome subject here....
[20:31] <Carter> anyone have any ideas?
[20:32] <bnex10[ppc]> pelo, it's hard to keep track
[20:32] <Orbixx> Seveas: Do you have any suggestion as to a method to install Ubuntu without the requirement of an optical drive?
[20:32] <GIn> dmsuperman, the partition is ext3 and is used by an an old linux install, how do I format it and set its mount point?
[20:32] <Pelo> bnex10[ppc], not my problem,   look in your biois carefully
[20:32] <bnex10[ppc]> my bios suck
[20:32] <Seveas> Orbixx, a proper netboot install. Which requires that you run a dhcpd, tftp daemon and iirc nfs as well
[20:33] <vinconzo> armyof12monkeyss, if it's on a laptop, it might have a button
[20:33] <dmsuperman> GIn, edit /etc/fstab
[20:33] <GIn> dmsuperman, I want to mount it to ~/Videos
[20:33] <VikDAkinG> wow no clue what is wrong with my CD or my computer or something
[20:33] <Jizzo> Is there a way to de-install Gimp, without removing Ubuntu-Desktop?
[20:33] <vinconzo> armyof12monkeyss, i have a wifi button on the front of my laptop for example
[20:33] <Seveas> Orbixx, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[20:33] <Orbixx> Seveas: Do you have a guide availa...
[20:33] <Orbixx> Nevermind.
[20:33] <Orbixx> :)
[20:33] <tuxus> VikDAkinG: we won't know either, untill you give more info
[20:33] <Seveas> help.ubuntu.com is good :)
[20:33] <vinconzo> armyof12monkeyss, if you have such button, try pressing it
[20:33] <VikDAkinG> when i tried to run the installation CD it comes up with the menu but whenever i try click enter on anything the whole thing freezes up
[20:33] <L52> hi, someone sucessfully installed jdk 6update5 using "make-jpkg"?
[20:33] <GIn> !pastebin
[20:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[20:34] <Chri4> Guys, I'm trying to install a USB webcam. I couldn't see anything with lshw, lsusb showed "Bus 002 Device 003: ID 093a:2468 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Easy Snap Snake Eye WebCam". What do I do next?
[20:34] <VikDAkinG> I dont have any clue whats wrong
[20:34] <Orbixx> Also, finally Seveas... Do you know where I can find the MD5 hash of the Ubuntu downloads?
[20:34] <ubuntu_> hi
[20:34] <tuxus> VikDAkinG: post hardware
[20:34] <but_psycho> i have an adsl connection. have a lan modem (not usb) configured as bridge. i was given 1 static ip adress, 1 gateway adress, and i need neither a login nor a password for my connection (simply introduce the ip adress, gateway, subnet mask and i am connected to the internet). i cannot connect to the internet in ubuntu. pppoeconf doesnt work. rp-pppoe-3.8  does not wor either.
[20:34] <but_psycho> how can i configure my internet connection on ubuntu??
[20:34] <VikDAkinG> ok
 you have a webcam viewer
[20:34] <VikDAkinG> 1 sec
[20:34] <GIn> dmsuperman, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62962/ seems the partition is not in there
[20:34] <pablin30> hi
[20:34] <Seveas> Chri4, try an application that reads from the webcam. Also try to find out ig it's v4l1 or v4l2
[20:34] <Seveas> Orbixx, on releases.ubuntu.com
[20:34] <armyof12monkeyss> im not getting any output when i run that command :[
[20:34] <pablin30> how to install ubuntu 7.10 with dmraid
[20:34] <GIn> dmsuperman, partition is /dev/sdc3
[20:34] <tuxus> but_psycho: DSL, PPoE, dial-up, router..?
[20:34] <pablin30> help
[20:35] <danand> !webcams | Chri4
[20:35] <ubotu> Chri4: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[20:35] <dmsuperman> GIn, add it there :D
[20:35] <danand> Chri4 - hope that helps
[20:35] <what_the_deuce> Hi thrre
[20:35] <Chri4> thanks chaps
[20:35] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, hmmmm
[20:35] <Seveas> armyof12monkeyss, pm
[20:36] <armyof12monkeyss> pm?
[20:36] <VikDAkinG> ok i have a Compaq laptop called Mobile AMD Sempron with 2800+ Processor, 1.6GHz, 384 MB of RAM
[20:36] <VikDAkinG> It has WinXP with SP2 loaded on it currently
[20:36] <Scunizi> bnex10[ppc], here's a link for an AMD socket A processor and Motherboard.. total cost about .. cheep.. add memory and plug in your stuff and you'll have a new machine.. http://tinyurl.com/65k5sx
[20:36] <what_the_deuce> Hi there. my accelerated desktop does not refresh at the same rate all over my screen, if that makes sence
[20:36] <GIn> dmsuperman, like this?   /dev/sdc3   /home/jin/Videos   auto rw,user,exec 0 0
[20:36] <Pelo> VikDAkinG, try making it one line, this is a busy channel
[20:36] <VikDAkinG> oh ok sorry
[20:37] <but_psycho> tuxus: dsl
[20:37] <VikDAkinG>  i have a Compaq laptop called Mobile AMD Sempron with 2800+ Processor, 1.6GHz, 384 MB of RAM.  It has WinXP with SP2 loaded on it currently
[20:37] <Pelo> what_the_deuce, how much memory does your video card have ?
[20:37] <what_the_deuce> Like, when i'm using the effects, there is a clear line down the screen, and its only there for a split second
[20:37] <what_the_deuce> Its an ati 200m.
[20:37] <vinconzo> armyof12monkeyss, seveas sent you a personal message
[20:37] <Jizzo> Is it possible to uninstall gimp without getting the dependancy error with Ubuntu-Desktop?
[20:37] <Penny> How to create a new user?
[20:37] <what_the_deuce> using the FGLXR driver
[20:37] <what_the_deuce> 128MB
 that's very cheap
[20:37] <dmsuperman> GIn, that i'm not too sure, i'm not good at /etc/fstab
[20:37] <dudeeee34> hi guys
[20:37] <GIn> hey dmsuperman, if the dir Videos already has files in it, what will happen to the files if I mount a partition to this directory?
[20:38] <Penny> How to create a new user with root priviledges?
[20:38] <dudeeee34> can anyone help me
[20:38] <Pelo> VikDAkinG, try the alternate install cd , it's kinder on the hardware
[20:38] <what_the_deuce> In previous releases, i haven't had this problem so much
[20:38] <dudeeee34> how to get wireless in ubuntu
[20:38] <dudeeee34> ?
[20:38] <lucas2> how do I know which version of ubuntu I have?
[20:38] <kernfreak> Penny, why?
[20:38] <dmsuperman> GIn, I can't be 100% sure, but when i did the same thing, those files couldn't be access while mounted
[20:38] <alex-weej> when i
[20:38] <alex-weej> ...
[20:38] <what_the_deuce> And now its affecting youtube videos
[20:38] <dmsuperman> GIn, but when i unmounted they were still there
[20:38] <Pelo> what_the_deuce, do youhave compiz enabled ? try turning it off
[20:38] <alex-weej> when i modprobe snd-hda-intel i get loads of unknown symbol errors
[20:38] <VikDAkinG> Well i downloaded the OS from the website.
[20:38] <GIn> k, gonna restart and try this out
[20:38] <alex-weej> i managed to bring this on myself today
[20:38] <dudeeee34> anyone?
[20:38] <dmsuperman> GIn, it sort of hid the original dir underneath the mounted
[20:38] <tuxus> but_psycho: you were given one static ip? Sure?
[20:38] <VikDAkinG> Should i get a differnt download?
[20:38] <dudeeee34> can anyone help me get wireless in ubuntu
[20:39] <phar0z> lucas2, cat /etc/issue
[20:39] <but_psycho> tuxus: absolutely sure
[20:39] <GIn> dmsuperman, haha, good strategy to hide files then :-D
[20:39] <what_the_deuce> Yes, I've been using Compiz for months with no ill-effects, but now I've updated to the 8.04 beta, my performance has glitches
[20:39] <dudeeee34> anyone?
[20:39] <lucas2> phar0z: thanks.   it says 6.06.2 LTS.   any idea why   do-release-upgrade   says there is no new release found?
[20:39] <bnex10[ppc]> pelo, i see something
[20:39] <Pelo> VikDAkinG, there is an alternate install cd, same place onthe website just check a box below the downlaod button,   it's a text based installer , no live desktop on it
[20:39] <dudeeee34> how do u get wireless in ubuntu?
[20:39] <kernfreak> frankly I think they are releasing 2 soon
[20:40] <dudeeee34> i need help
[20:40] <Seveas> lucas2, because lts'es only see lts releases
[20:40] <Pelo> !wifi > dudeeee34 check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[20:40] <Seveas> and the next lts release will be out in 12 days :)
[20:40] <Pelo> bnex10[ppc],  best of luck witgh that I have to go , later folks
[20:40] <lucas2> Seveas: I'd like to upgrade to gutsy.   What would be the suggested way to upgrade?
[20:40] <tuxus> but_psycho: interesting.. are you trying to connect through a LAN, or are you connecting directly to the outside?
[20:40] <what_the_deuce> lucas2: because the updater might be set to only reconsise new LTS releases
[20:40] <phar0z> lucas2, please join the dutch-speaking #ubuntu-nl channel :)
[20:40] <bnex10[ppc]> Scunizi, hmm well i'm more interested in a laptop
[20:40] <Seveas> lucas2, upgrade to edgy, then feisty, then gutsy
[20:41] <Seveas> lucas2, or better: wait 12 more days and upgrade directly to hardy
[20:41] <Scunizi> bnex10[ppc], ah.. as you know .. not for that price :)
[20:41] <janusz> quit
[20:41] <but_psycho> tuxus: i am not connecting to a lan
[20:41] <meatgrinder_> /ignore
[20:41] <bnex10[ppc]> Scunizi, i know
[20:41] <tuxus> but_psycho: who's your ISP?
[20:42] <dubby> so does this channel start supporting hardy the day of the release?
[20:42] <bnex10[ppc]> i hope not
[20:42] <but_psycho> tuxus: is it possbile that you it? =) telemedia group, it is in moldova
[20:42] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[20:42] <IndyGunFreak> dubby: generally
[20:42] <but_psycho> *that you know it
[20:42] <bnex10[ppc]> but for some time
[20:43] <tuxus> but_psycho: no, I'm just a lowly home user in Canada. Hang on.
[20:43]  * kernfreak thinks 6mos is not nearly enough time to ensure a release is stable
[20:43] <binarical-app> wont we get moved to the ubuntu room, on hardy release?
[20:43] <Jizzo> Anyone know how to be able to un-install Gimp/Evolution without destroying the Ubuntu-Desktop?
[20:43] <IndyGunFreak> binarical-app: yes.. and +1 will close for a short while, then when the beta of Intrepid comes out, it will reopen, least thats the past its taken with all the other releases
[20:44] <katashi> hi, people!
[20:44] <Seveas> Jizzo, it is safe to remove the ubuntu-desktop package -- that won't destroy anythong
[20:44] <Exteris> Jizzo, ubuntu-desktop is just a pacakage that includes others, you can remove it alright
[20:44]  * IndyGunFreak removes his desktop daily
[20:44] <Jizzo> Seveas Ok great thanks!
[20:44] <Jizzo> Exteris Thanks aswell ;)
[20:44] <kernfreak> lol
[20:44]  * binarical-app does too
[20:45] <kernfreak> who needs the desktop anyway
[20:45] <Exteris> terminal ftw!
[20:45] <tuxus> but_psycho: you did check this: http://www.telemedia.md/files/instr_adsl_ru.pdf ?
[20:45] <binarical-app> my little brothers do
[20:45] <kernfreak> vim works fine
[20:45] <IndyGunFreak> kernfreak: some people feel that way.. CLI isn't for me, i prefer at least some GUI.. but CLI works fine.
[20:45] <kernfreak> I like gui
[20:45] <connor> Ok i have just done a fresh install of ubuntu gusty and used restricted driver manager to install the ati drivers and all my audio looped and my screen went all off and my bottom bar went this is by far the strangest problem ive had on linux
[20:46] <IndyGunFreak> connor: yeah, that sounds pretty strange
[20:46] <kernfreak> CLI is a lifesaver wne X or gui pukes though
[20:46] <IndyGunFreak> kernfreak: oh no doubt about that
[20:46] <binarical-app> we also have tty s they make the cli and gui a difference of asleep and awake
[20:46] <IndyGunFreak> kernfreak: unlike something from Redmond where you get to format and reinstall.
[20:46] <connor> what am i going to do i cant live without those cool compiz 3d effects
[20:46]  * IndyGunFreak thinks compiz is over-rated
[20:47] <binarical-app> i dont like thos very much, they make my other lives not work so well
[20:47] <connor> no way indygunfreak
[20:47] <phil_> hey guys, i have 7.10 installed on a desktop..i've been using wired ethernet but now just installed my wireless card...how do i install this??
[20:47] <VikDAkinG> What do you think is the best version of ubuntu? like kubuntu or what?
[20:47] <IndyGunFreak> connor: its cool for about 3-4 days, then i was like, "Why did i do this again", and i've not messed w/ it since
[20:47] <binarical-app> phil_ have you looked at mad wifi?
[20:47] <tuxus> phil_: first check if the card is detected
[20:47] <phil_> tuxus i dont think it is, how do i do this?
[20:47] <IndyGunFreak> VikDAkinG: opinions will very, i personally would rather look at pics of Rosie O Donnell Naked than use KDE..
[20:47] <connor> well i digress back to the original problem. Any ideas?
[20:47] <binarical-app> i use gnome, but am in the process of finalising my alternatives for kde
[20:48] <Seveas> IndyGunFreak, my eyes....
[20:48] <IndyGunFreak> Xfce is OK.. pretty minimal, but I like it.. but it has some similarities w/ Gnome.
[20:49] <IndyGunFreak> Seveas: i know, i know..lol, i shutter thinking about it..lol
[20:49] <tuxus> phil_: from terminal, "dmesg"
[20:49] <binarical-app> apt-get ......kde makes quit a problem even when following the forums
[20:49] <phil_> okay i did that
[20:49] <bnex10[ppc]> i prefer KDE
[20:49] <hanophix33> can anyone tell me why flash videos are stuttering
[20:49] <connor> so has anyone heard of problems with ubuntu and the ati raedon x1950
[20:49] <IndyGunFreak> bnex10[ppc]: well, the beauty of Linux is, we all have a choice, and if there's one we don't like, you can make your own if yuo have the talent/skills
[20:49] <tuxus> binarical-app: I run Gnome and then installed kde-core. This enable me to run "necesary" KDE apps without a glitch
[20:49] <IndyGunFreak> connor: its ATI, so yes, we've heard problems w/ it
[20:50] <binarical-app> hanophix33: its most probably a connectin issue
[20:50] <tuxus> phil_: do you see your card mentioned?
[20:50] <pablin30> helloo
[20:50] <connor> hanophix33: something to do with flash i had the same problem try removing all references to flash in synaptic and then installing flash from the original website
[20:50] <IndyGunFreak> hanophix33: yeah, the current version of flash seems pretty stable.. what site?
[20:50] <pablin30> helpppp
[20:50] <pablin30> shit
[20:50] <connor> indygunfreak: lol
[20:50] <binarical-app> thats a good idea tuxus, thanks for the tip
[20:50] <IndyGunFreak> pablin30: take a paxil, and state yuour question
[20:50] <hanophix33> masters.com --- live feeds...but even youtube stutters
[20:50] <connor> i wish i could afford an nvidia
[20:50] <phil_> tuxus dont recongize anything
[20:50] <hanophix33> or is really scrolly...like you can see every frame
[20:50] <connor> but theres got to be a solution
[20:50] <pablin30> how to install ubuntu 7.10 with dmraid
[20:51] <pablin30> i can sata with controller via
[20:51] <tuxus> phil_: from terminal, run "lspci"
[20:51] <pablin30> please
[20:51] <connor> hanophix read what i said above it worked for me
[20:51] <IndyGunFreak> pablin30: one of the most problematic installs I ever done, was on a raid system, and i borked vista like 5x..lol, so i'm not the guy to ask.
[20:51] <hanophix33> connor:  thankis
[20:51] <binarical-app> !nvida
[20:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvida - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:51] <IndyGunFreak> i tried convincing the user it was a sign to just remove vista, to no avail
[20:51] <pablin30> what_
[20:52] <pablin30> what?
[20:52] <phil_> tuxus okay, i see stuff about display and ide..and usb and pci
[20:52] <binarical-app> !nvidia
[20:52] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:52] <tuxus> pablin30: http://www.dersoldat.org/?page_id=358
[20:52] <alj> is there a way i can connect to the internet in single user mode in ubuntu ?
[20:52] <pablin30> speak spanish?
[20:52]  * IndyGunFreak gives binarical-app a dictionary
[20:52] <VikDAkinG> Do you think I should get Ubuntu or Xubuntu? What do you prefer?
[20:52] <connor> hanophix33: no problem
[20:52] <alj> i need to update apt and download a package
[20:52]  * binarical-app takes the dictionary :D
 Kubuntu
[20:52] <pablin30> ya tengo dmraid
[20:52] <tuxus> phil_: nothing that looks like your wifi card?
[20:52] <IndyGunFreak> !es | pablin30
[20:52] <ubotu> pablin30: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:53] <stejar> hello ii just a litlle trouble here:D
[20:53] <VikDAkinG> ok lol thanks
[20:53] <phil_> tuxus i had a friend install the card but i dont remember the make of the card
[20:53] <tuxus> Vikdaking: Ubuntu with KDE-core
[20:53] <alj> is there a way i can connect to the internet in single user mode in ubuntu ?
[20:53] <stejar> wow to connect to undernet server? :(
[20:53] <phil_> tuxus i see things about bluetooth
[20:53] <alj> is there a way i can connect to the internet in single user mode in ubuntu ?
[20:53] <IndyGunFreak> just like spanish speakers in america, come to an english channel, and expect us to adapt to you
[20:54] <stejar> how to connect to undernet server with ubuntu? :(
[20:54] <Juje007> Can I go into ubuntu when I'm on kubuntu?
[20:54] <tuxus> phil_: find out what card is installed. Are you running ubuntu 7.10?
[20:54] <c0x> hall
[20:54] <IndyGunFreak> stejar: what do you mean?
[20:54] <phil_> tuxus ya
[20:54] <stejar> hello
[20:54] <connor> indygunfreak: should i try using envy its just some people have warned me about it causing problems
[20:54] <IndyGunFreak> Juje007: that question made no sense
[20:54] <alj> hey..how to bring up the network interface in single user mode ?
[20:54] <GIn> how do u format a partition?
[20:54] <stejar> ii want to connect on  undernet server
[20:54] <IndyGunFreak> connor: absolutely not
[20:55] <Seveas> stejar, in the xchat menu: xchat --> server list. Choose undernet and hit connext
[20:55] <tuxus> Juje007: you don't have to go "into" - they're essentially the same, but running different desktops, and therefore, most of the time different applications
[20:55] <IndyGunFreak> he's probably using Pidgin.
[20:55] <tuxus> GIn: with great, great care....
[20:55] <Seveas> IndyGunFreak, I /version'ed him ;)
[20:55] <connor> indygunfreak: anything else i could try
[20:55] <Juje007> I got some problems with internet and visual thing on ubuntu (no problems on kubuntu)
[20:55] <IndyGunFreak> Seveas: lol, evil
[20:55] <IndyGunFreak> connor: installing the driver correctly
[20:55] <connor> the official installer doesn't seem to work
[20:55] <stejar> thanx :)
[20:56] <GIn> and how do u mount a partition so the user Gin has full access to it? what to add to the entry in fstab?
[20:56] <IndyGunFreak> connor: Nvidia cards are on sale at Tiger Direct.
[20:56] <Carter> Oh no, some google searching found that VMware Server cannot do 3d acceleration so does this mean no matter what I can't Run beryl on an emulated copy of ubuntu ever? :(
[20:56] <alj> hello..someone plz help me out :)
[20:56] <tuxus> phil_: system > administration > network   do you see your card?
[20:56] <Juje007> IndyGunFreak I got some problems with internet and visual thing on ubuntu (no problems on kubuntu)
[20:56] <Seveas> Carter, correct
[20:56] <IndyGunFreak> Juje007: that doesn't make much sense
[20:56] <c0x> hallo
[20:56] <binarical-app> hi alj , how can we help you
[20:56] <connor> ok but as a solution to save on money is there anything you think i should try
[20:56] <Carter> wow, I just spent like 4 hours setting up everything on this emulated install, and now it's all useless!
[20:56]  * Carter cries a little
[20:56] <IndyGunFreak> Juje007:  are they botht he same version?.. ie, 7.10, or 7.04, or whatever?
[20:57] <stejar> ahh
[20:57] <Juje007> No
[20:57] <hanophix33> connor:  didnt do much for me....
[20:57] <Coggz> anyone here use perlbox-voice?
[20:57] <Juje007> kubuntu is 7.10
[20:57] <stejar> ii dont find in server list undernet. :(
[20:57] <Juje007> and ubuntu 8.04 beta
[20:57] <hanophix33> connor:  what was needs to be deleted from synaptic
[20:57] <phil_> tuxus no
[20:57] <dan_> hey does anyone know how to mount copy protected data cds?
[20:57] <dan_> such as windows games in general
[20:57] <dan_> etc
[20:57] <IndyGunFreak> Juje007: ok.. and Kubuntu is doing what you want, and ubuntu is not, correct?
[20:57] <binarical-app> stejar: please add the server you wish to connect to
[20:57] <Juje007> Today I fixed a problem from Xorg
[20:57] <Juje007> Ya
[20:58] <connor> hanophix33: err all the flash stuff you have installed but be careful not do uninstall any system files
[20:58] <tuxus> phil_: I'd check if the card is properly installed: open your box, check, and while you're at it, write down any info you see on the card
[20:58] <IndyGunFreak> Juje007: well, my first suggestion would be to download a STABLE version of ubuntu.. and that woulsd probably help a lot
[20:58] <Juje007> Ok is there a option to downgrade than?
[20:58] <stejar> binarical-app ii try to write undernet  but, dont fiind it. :( Sorry me bad english
[20:58] <tuxus> IndyGunFreak: OBJECTION!! Leading the witness  :)
[20:58] <IndyGunFreak> Juje007: no
[20:58] <Juje007> :'(
[20:58] <IndyGunFreak> tuxus: lol
[20:58] <connor> indygunfreak: tiger direct is a us store i live in the uk
[20:58] <phil_> tuxus i just installed it, i was running windows xp so i know the card was properly installed and working
[20:59] <Juje007> So I need to wait on the stable version of 8.04 right?
[20:59] <Coggz> anyone ever used sphinx2 or perlbox-voice
[20:59] <binarical-app> stejar: you should add "whatever.undernet.com"
[20:59] <IndyGunFreak> Juje007: thats not to say that it will be fixed then, but god knows what they are doing with 8.10 while its still in beta
[20:59] <tuxus> phil_: so, you've got a dual boot, then? Find out through Windows what card it is
[20:59] <coach_z> how do i get the clock in terminal to be the same as my clock on my computer because terminal is like 5 hours in advance
[20:59] <IndyGunFreak> *8.04
[20:59] <Juje007> Ok
[21:00] <phil_> tuxus im only running ubuntu, but i know the card is alright
[21:00] <connor> hanophix33: if that doesn't work remove all flash stuff and try installing gnash flash player
[21:00] <binarical-app> stejar: when you create an irc channel you should( per ubuntu) be connected to freenode , edit this to state what you would like it to.
[21:00] <Juje007> Otherwise I backup everything and wait until the stable version of 8.04 released and install it
[21:00] <IndyGunFreak> connor: gnash is a joke at the moment, doesn't even work on youtube
[21:00] <Juje007> First remove everything :P
[21:00] <stejar> binarical-app: * Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?
[21:01] <stejar>  Cycling to next server in bucharest.ro.eu.undernet.org...
[21:01] <stejar> * Disconnected ().
[21:01] <stejar> * Looking up newserver
[21:01] <FloodBot1> stejar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:01] <stejar> :(
[21:01] <Juje007> But I don't like kubuntu :(
[21:01] <connor> oh really i didn't know thanks
[21:01] <IndyGunFreak> Juje007: well, then download Ubuntu 7.10
[21:01]  * binarical-app shows  Juje007 the calender
[21:01] <tuxus> phil_:http://linux.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=linux&cdn=compute&tm=9&f=00&su=p284.8.150.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&zu=https%3A//wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[21:01] <MrGnu> I am going to try to do this supergrub thing, but does anyonV
[21:01] <connor> sorry that sounded sarcastyic it wasn't meant to
[21:01] <connor> *sarcastic
[21:01] <IndyGunFreak> tuxus: you need to learn howt o paste a url, no way i'm cutting/pasting that.
[21:01] <Juje007> I know binarical-app
[21:01] <MrGnu> Anyone use vista with supergrub
[21:02] <Juje007> I got download limit
[21:02] <tuxus> Juje007: I run Gnome, then apt-get install kde-core and any kde apps you want
[21:02] <binarical-app> stejar: perhaps you should look to find the correct server you wish to connect to via google
[21:02] <binarical-app> Juje007 :D
[21:02] <IndyGunFreak> MrGnu: i had Vista for about, oh, 15min when I bought my new laptop, i actually didn't even accept the EULA, but I think grub works ok w/ vista
[21:02] <Monobi> Lol.
[21:02] <Coggz> IndyGunFreak: you might be able to get your money back
[21:02] <Monobi> hmm.
[21:03] <Juje007> lets try it tuxus :P
[21:03] <VikDAkinG> vista is pretty good
[21:03] <IndyGunFreak> Coggz: i did.. it was a principle issue, like $50
[21:03] <Coggz> IndyGunFreak: for vista, if u declined EULA
[21:03] <binarical-app> im with you tuxus
[21:03] <Coggz> IndyGunFreak: yes, thats good..
[21:03] <binarical-app> lets do it
[21:03] <phil_> tuxus thanks bro
[21:03] <MrGnu> I dont want vista, but need to for educational purposes....
[21:03] <IndyGunFreak> Coggz: but it was awesome, cuz the laptop(acer 5315), was on sale for 349, i bought the display, so they knocked it down to 320, then another 50 off for Vista.
[21:03] <Juje007> Uhm Mozilla FireFox is full of bugs :/
[21:03] <tuxus> phil_: good luck!
[21:03] <Juje007> the new version 3 beta 5
[21:03] <Coggz> IndyGunFreak: lol, amazing
[21:04] <IndyGunFreak> Coggz: thast what i said..lol..
[21:04] <Ximal> hey guys.. what is a good cd burner for putting music onto a cd as an audio cd ? my serpentine is crashing....
[21:04] <Jizzo> Juje007: Thats why its called a Beta...
[21:04] <IndyGunFreak> Coggz: and the display was behind platic, so not like it had fingerprints, etc, all over it
[21:04] <Juje007> I know
[21:04] <Coggz> Juje007: beta 5 is out!? i got beta 4
[21:04] <Coggz> IndyGunFreak: great
[21:04] <tuxus> Ximal: whatever you can afford.. or are you referring to software?
[21:04] <IndyGunFreak> Coggz: thats why i love wal mart..lol
[21:04] <Juje007> but Kubuntu installed it :/
[21:04] <Ximal> software tuxus : software
[21:05] <Coggz> IndyGunFreak: i got a small acer tablet, secondhand, £150
[21:05] <tuxus> Ximal: KDE: k3b is nice
[21:05] <Ximal> hmm i shoulda thought of gnome baker
[21:05] <stejar> hyu, ii realy did this :)) im connected :D
[21:05] <IndyGunFreak> Coggz: Acer makes halfway decent stuff, but the wireless on this was a bit of a pain, and I still can't enable DE with the Intel Graphics(mostly due to lack of effort on my part..lol).. but in Hardy, it all works out of the box, at least on the beta live CD i tried
[21:05] <binarical-app> thats cool stejar
[21:06] <VikDAkinG> if i have to use this freaking XP one more day i think im gonna break my computer...
[21:06] <binarical-app> lol
[21:06] <Coggz> IndyGunFreak: cool, everything worked for me, tablet digitizer only needed uncomenting from xorg.conf
[21:06] <ivze> Good `date'! Could anyone advise me an IDE for GNOME with the ability of creating GTK GUI in a (RAD - rapid application developing) style - by drag&dropping visual components and implementing event handlers? (Sorry for noob-like question, aren't such developing systems for noobs :))?
[21:06] <IndyGunFreak> awesome.
[21:06] <Ximal> vikdaking : ubuntu gutsy is the best distro i've used thus far pero ... so pero et pero ... download and use it..
[21:07] <Coggz> IndyGunFreak: had more trouble with my Dell Inspiron,... BCMXX hell
[21:07] <tuxus> ivze: Netbeans?
[21:07] <IndyGunFreak> Coggz: oh yeah, bcm devices make better targets than they do linux wireless devices
[21:07] <VikDAkinG> An End Now window just froze and another End Now window asked me to if i wanted to end the previous end now wtf!
[21:07] <didy> how do i install KDE on ubuntu please??
[21:07] <IndyGunFreak> VikDAkinG: its a vicious circle
[21:08] <IndyGunFreak> didy: i think its sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:08] <Coggz> IndyGunFreak: i got it working anyhow...
[21:08] <IndyGunFreak> well thats good.
[21:08] <Diurpaneus> romania?
[21:08] <symptom> anyone know how to install a USB wireless card on ubuntu?
[21:08] <IndyGunFreak> symptom: well, it all depends on the usb wireless card.
[21:08] <tuxus> didy: do you want the complete KDE desktop, or...?
[21:08] <IndyGunFreak> there's a lot of them
[21:09] <symptom> IndyGunFreak, this is the thing.... its a SMC that is barely supported
[21:09] <symptom> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_chipset.php?chipset=Prism
[21:09] <ivze> tuxus: =) i use NetBeans. But the software, coded in NB, is run via Java VM. Not native!
[21:09] <GIn> how do u edit the Label of a partition?
[21:09] <Diurpaneus> ubuntu romania?
[21:09] <symptom> see SMC g 	 EZ Connect 2862W-G
[21:09] <IndyGunFreak> symptom: well, the device really matters not, its th chipset.. plug it in, open a terminal and "lsusb" no quotes, and see how its chipset is identified, probably either Atheros, Broadcom, or Ralink
[21:09] <Starnestommy> !ro | Diurpaneus
[21:09] <ubotu> Diurpaneus: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[21:10] <symptom> tried that
[21:10] <symptom> not identified
[21:10] <symptom> all 0's
[21:10] <IndyGunFreak> symptom: well, thats relaly not good.
[21:11] <symptom> IndyGunFreak, yea... there is also a possibility that the card itself is broken
[21:11] <symptom> hehe
[21:11] <IndyGunFreak> symptom: well, thats what it sounds like..
[21:11] <bnex10> well the card didn't work
[21:12] <IndyGunFreak> symptom: why do you think the card is broken?
[21:12] <symptom> so... if it doesnt show up on lsusb that means that it is broken ?
[21:12] <IndyGunFreak> symptom: can you plug something else into that USB port, and it identifies there?
[21:12] <symptom> IndyGunFreak, because it used to work with my windows machine about 2 years ago, and then i took it out one day, and put it back in a win machine and got nada
[21:12] <user1> is there an ap that inverts all colors in a picture file?
[21:13] <symptom> IndyGunFreak, tried that... the port is good
[21:13] <IndyGunFreak> symptom: well, i'd say its a pretty god indication your device is frigged up
[21:13] <symptom> Thanks man
[21:13] <symptom> or woman... we
[21:13] <symptom> W/E
[21:13] <tuxus> user1: invert as in, make "negative" looking?
[21:13] <IndyGunFreak> !hardware | symptom do a search here and try to find one that is compatible if you're gonna buy another
[21:13] <ubotu> symptom do a search here and try to find one that is compatible if you're gonna buy another: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[21:14] <user1> tuxus sory?
[21:14] <tuxus> user1: you wish to invert colors... like, make a colour photo look like a colour negative?
[21:14] <mrgeneral> ·
[21:15] <didy> will there be any conflict if i use kubuntu desktop on ubuntu??
[21:15] <user1> tuxus no.   . like white goes black. reg goes yelloow
[21:15] <Juje007> tuxus ubuntu kde is not the best :/
[21:15] <binarical-app> didy : you will run into conflicts if you apt-get you kde system from ubuntu
[21:15] <tuxus> didy: if you have Ubuntu installed, then install the kde desktop, you probably get a HUGE start menu
[21:15] <Juje007> KDE*
[21:16] <BMac2587>  this is a new topic
[21:16] <Juje007> Ubuntu is still the best :)
[21:16] <tuxus> user1: experiment with Gimp
[21:16] <binarical-app> didy: even if you folow the ubuntu forums to remove gnome based ... apps, your system will bug up
[21:16] <didy> Omg :P
[21:17] <didy> i like the bluey thing :P
[21:17] <tuxus> Juje007: ofcourse, that isn't very objective....
[21:17] <IndyGunFreak> binarical-app: surely you're not suggesting searchign for a problem and then following the instructions completely, rather than halfway
[21:17] <binarical-app> didy, i really would sujest getting the kubuntu cd and either upgrading your current system or, reinstalling it after backing up your "want to save" files
[21:18] <user1> tuxus k. thx
[21:18]  * IndyGunFreak agrees with binarical-app ... again
[21:18] <binarical-app> heh indy
[21:19] <tuxus> didy: when installing Debian, you can pass an extra command before booting that will install both gnome & kde (Debian is gnome too by default). Look into that, but I wouldn't recommend it. Even if everything integrates nicely, you'll get a huge list of apps
[21:19] <ccvp> hello fellow internet addicts
[21:19] <ccvp> are you all looking forward to another long & glorious
[21:20] <ccvp> weekend of irc addiction?
[21:20] <ccvp> :)
[21:20] <FloodBot1> ccvp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:20] <binarical-app> i am downloading about 7 distros on my torrent server right now..... in a few days..../me rubs hands together wth glee
[21:20] <IndyGunFreak> 7?..lol
[21:20] <tuxus> binarical-app: you run vmware?
[21:20] <aziz_> hi gus
[21:20] <IndyGunFreak> i dont' even steal that many DVD movies at one time
[21:20] <IndyGunFreak> er..
[21:21] <binarical-app> tuxus: i probalby should.... but no.... i try to lead secret lives
[21:21] <aziz_> I need help opening th folders as super user
[21:21] <IndyGunFreak> aziz_: what folder?
[21:21] <IndyGunFreak> and why?
[21:21] <aziz_> an somebody hel pme ?
[21:21] <Jyzygzy-> where do you put modules that you wanna be loaded at startup?
[21:22] <IndyGunFreak> aziz_: what do you need to do?.. it can be done, but its not exactly safe or even advised
[21:22] <aziz_> Idy I need to copy some folders into the folder /user/src
[21:22] <Jyzygzy-> ?
[21:22] <Q-FUNK> hi! I have a rhythmbox question:  where can I find documentation about the gconf keys used to define the format for the CD ripping filename?
[21:22] <tuxus> hyzygzy: read about insmod and lsmod
[21:22] <IndyGunFreak> aziz_: you can do it using the sudo cp command in termianl, but if you want to do it, run "gksudo nautilus" in a terminal
[21:23] <phillipedison189> aziz_: may want to try --no-desktop or something
[21:23] <filo86> I have small problem after installing fvwm-crystal - I desktop is larger than screen (when I move cursor do edge of scren, it pans) - but after setting 1600x1200 resolution all's OK - same problem with fluxbox. I have accelerated/restricted nvidia drivers
[21:23] <filo86> UBUntu 7.04
[21:23] <user1>  can i plug off hardisk or a cd rom . plug it again. while the system is still runing in ram?
[21:24] <Jyzygzy-> how do i add user to some group?
[21:24] <IndyGunFreak> filo86: are you adjusting the resolution in nvidia-settings?
[21:24] <Seveas> user1, ram: definitely not. cdrom: only if it's usb
[21:24] <CarlFK> user1: usb, yes.  ide - not a good idea (may damage hardware)
[21:24] <aziz_> thanx a lot guys
[21:24] <Seveas> user1, and harddisk: usb/hotplug scsi yes. ide: no
[21:25] <aziz_> one more thing guy, I need to configure my sound blaster live
[21:25] <GIn>  I over clocked my cpu from 2.2 ghz to 2.43 ghz but in Ubuntu I still see 2.2 ghz max :\
[21:25] <aziz_> any suggestions ?
[21:25] <user1> Seveas CarlFK why . someone said linux is smarter in that. more than windows
[21:25] <filo86> IndyGunFreak:  setting res in nvidia-settings doesn't work, i'm setting thru original gnome diplay panel
[21:25] <Seveas> user1, has nothing to do with linux or windows. It's a hardware limitation
[21:25] <IndyGunFreak> filo86: doesn't work at all, or just doesn't save it?
[21:26] <IndyGunFreak> Seveas: but but, it works fine in windows!
[21:26] <CarlFK> user1: may damage hardware - kinda like being zapped by lightning
[21:26] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[21:26] <Seveas> /kill IndyGunFreak
[21:26] <capiCrimm> my desktop icons original size is 64x64, but the system resizes. When I create a launcher gnome doesn't resize them? How can I fix that? They're png.
[21:26] <user1> Seveas CarlFK does linux support that. windows dont i think
[21:26] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[21:26] <Stroganoff> IndyGunFreak i once grilled my dvd drive this way
[21:26] <user1> Seveas CarlFK just preparing for a hd cdrom failure
[21:26] <filo86> IndyGunFreak:  Doesn't work at all
[21:26] <Jyzygzy-> how did you put user into a group
[21:26] <IndyGunFreak> filo86: doesn't make much sense.
[21:26] <Jyzygzy-> User -> Group
[21:26] <IndyGunFreak> Stroganoff: how did you do that?
[21:26] <Seveas> user1, then use usb cd's and hotplug scsi disks in a raid5 setup
[21:26] <Jyzygzy-> oh yea the shadow file
[21:26] <Seveas> or raid6, even better :)
[21:27] <IndyGunFreak> filo86: so you can't change your resolution in nvidia-settings?
[21:27] <user1> Seveas hm. you mean usb cdroms? and whats hotpluc scsi disks in raid5 ?
[21:27] <filo86> IndyGunFreak: I can but it doesn't switch
[21:28] <IndyGunFreak> filo86: thats very strnage, do you hit apply?
[21:28] <filo86> yes
[21:28] <filo86> and save xorg.conf
[21:28] <Seveas> user1, yes, usb cdroms. and if your system is important enough not to want to shut down in case of hardware failure, please do investigate on what hotplug disks are and what raid is. Basically, with raid5 you use at least 3 disks and one of them can fail without you losing data
[21:28] <IndyGunFreak> filo86: well, save isn't gonna work nless you're running nvidia-settings as root, but thast irrelevant
[21:29] <filo86> IndyGunFreak: i know that is needed to run with sudo
[21:29] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[21:30] <user1> Seveas oh i gues minminum 3 hds are required and they syncronise data with each other?
[21:30] <MetalRandomist> Is there a GUI program for editing GTK themes?
[21:30] <Seveas> user1, sort of
[21:30] <Seveas> look for raid on wikipedia
[21:30] <filo86> gnome works on every res properly
[21:30] <RyanPrior> user1: Are you wanting to do RAID 1?
[21:30] <user1> Seveas thats not good ifi get virus in one. it will spread in all
[21:30] <Seveas> user1, use linux. no viruses :)
[21:30] <user1> RyanPrior dont know whats raid
[21:30] <RyanPrior> user1: If you get a virus, it can spread through your whole computer no matter how you've got your hard drives set up. :-)
[21:31] <user1> Seveas i already do. but it can get some. and usualy by wine
[21:31] <user1> RyanPrior ya
[21:31] <RyanPrior> user1: RAID 1 is a mirroring setup which allows your data to be protected even if one of your hard drives fails.
[21:31] <anteaya> for some reason when I install ruby gems some of them find a home in /usr/lib/ruby/gems and others are located in /var/lib/gems.  I need them to be all together.  Which directory is the better choice?
[21:32] <finek> !aiglx
[21:32] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[21:32] <user1> RyanPrior hm. dont need that
[21:32] <user1> RyanPrior something that tackles viruses too
[21:32] <didy> how do i uninstall kde :P
[21:33] <RyanPrior> anteaya: Pick one. /var/ is usually for temporary or frequently changed stuff like logs, so if your gems aren't loggers and so on, I'd tend to go with the /usr space.
[21:33] <IndyGunFreak> didy: how did you install it?
[21:33] <finek> didy sudo apt-get rm kde
[21:33] <finek> ;p
[21:33]  * IndyGunFreak thinks people who put ;P in questions, should be jackslapped
[21:33] <anteaya> RyanPrior, : thanks for the input, I appreciate it
[21:34] <finek> !applaunch
[21:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about applaunch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:34] <RyanPrior> user1: First of all, Ubuntu is pretty virus-resistant. But because Windows viruses could still end up running via Wine (unlikely but possible) and because we might see Linux viruses in the future, a virus scanner like Clam (available for free) is still a good idea.
[21:34] <finek> !compiz
[21:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:34] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: i think the bigger issue rather than the virus running in wine(which seems a remote possibility), is spreading the virus unkowningly to Windoze users
[21:35] <IndyGunFreak> !virus | RyanPrior user1
[21:35] <ubotu> RyanPrior user1: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[21:35] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: that's absolutely true, though I don't have much problem with that since Gmail scans all my attachments.
[21:35] <didy> ﻿sudo apt-get rm kde
[21:35] <didy> E: Invalid operation rm
[21:35] <bastid_raZor> didy; remove
[21:35] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: i can barely get apps I want to work going w/ Wine, so it would be an incredible coincidence for a virus to work w/ wine..lol
[21:35] <RyanPrior> didy: remove, not rm.
[21:35] <IndyGunFreak> didy: remove
[21:36] <RyanPrior> didy: Though it would be nice for apt-get to support "rm" as an alias!
[21:36] <didy> Package kde is not installed, so not removed
[21:36] <IceTox> Hello. Whenever I restart my ubuntu 7.10 desktop computer it falls down to low-graphics mode because it doesn't detect my nvidia 6600 GT graphical card correctly. Anyone knows how to fix this nvidia problem?
[21:36] <user1> IndyGunFreak wine can spread viruses. and second. i have some fat partitions too.
[21:36] <bastid_raZor> didy; i'm guessing you want to remove kubuntu-desktop
[21:36] <RyanPrior> IndyGunFreak: I test viruses with Wine for fun sometimes. A number of them work quite well.
[21:36] <IndyGunFreak> user1: i didn't say it *couldnt*, i said it was unlikely
[21:37] <IndyGunFreak> user1: the only thing i consider impossible, is Rosie O Donnell sponsoring weight watchers
[21:37] <didy> yeah... also when i installed.. it installed a few other components.. how can i make sure i uninstall all kde-related components??
[21:37] <user1> IndyGunFreak even the native viruses?
[21:37] <IndyGunFreak> user1: Linux native?
[21:37] <Siph0n> hey, i typed iwconfig and i see wlan0, wmaster, wifi0, and ath0... wifi0 and wmaster0 say no wireless extensions..... wlan0's AP says Not Associcated, and ath0's AP has a mac address... why are there so many?
[21:37] <Seveas> IndyGunFreak, remember automatix?
[21:37] <user1> IndyGunFreak linux native viurses. the viruses that work on linux
[21:37] <RyanPrior> user1: As far as we know, there are no native Linux viruses except certain ones which were created for academic reasons and aren't "in the wild".
[21:37] <user1> IndyGunFreak not windows viruses spread by wine.
[21:37] <IndyGunFreak> user1: there's not very many, but if you want to install antivirus, go at it.
[21:37] <didy> any ideas?
[21:38] <IndyGunFreak> Seveas: ah yes, my understanding, its a thing of the past nows.
[21:38] <IdleOne> didy: I told you it is not an easy task and you probably have a better chance just doing a fresh install
[21:38] <didy> omg...
[21:38] <bastid_raZor> didy; you could use wildcards like kde* but for the most part kubuntu-desktop will rid you of the majority with an apt-get autoremove after that finishes
[21:38] <Seveas> IndyGunFreak, yes. There was much rejoicing when we heard
[21:38] <user1> RyanPrior if someont is interested in sending me a viures , he will find it . IndyGunFreak
[21:38] <IndyGunFreak> Seveas: my understanding is they've moed on to a distribution that will properly appreciate their efforts to break it
[21:38] <IndyGunFreak> user1: then disconnect your machine from the internet
[21:38] <RyanPrior> user1: But if somebody custom-creates a virus just for you, antivirus won't catch it anyway.
[21:38] <user1> RyanPrior IndyGunFreak well a/v will take up quite cpu and sppeed...........
[21:38] <bastid_raZor> didy; i agree with IdleOne .. but your choice on how to do it is yours.
[21:39] <GIn> user1: if your data is so critical, you should NEVER put it on a pc that is connected to the net.
[21:39] <user1> IndyGunFreak RyanPrior i have a server. and many local users in lan route throug me
[21:39] <user1> it will be very slow.............
[21:39] <RyanPrior> user1: Clam AV only takes up CPU when you are actively scanning.
[21:39] <ritalin> have you ever made love in da club to a thug with his sights on
[21:39] <user1> RyanPrior hmm...
[21:39] <GIn> user1: it is not worth the time for so me one to hack an average user running Ubuntu
[21:39] <user1> RyanPrior but a custom based virus will only effect my home folder.. right. not the system>?
[21:39] <RyanPrior> user1: ClamAV can be configured not to scan files that are already known to be clean, as well. You can save a lot of CPU only scanning new incoming files.
[21:40] <Seveas> ritalin, offtopic talk elsewhere
[21:40] <ritalin> ill take that as a yes
[21:40] <ritalin> lol
[21:40] <user1> GIn i have to. its an ircd. webhost. email server
[21:40] <Seveas> ritalin, consider this a last warning
[21:40] <user1> RyanPrior hm
[21:40] <RyanPrior> user1: A virus can only affect your home folder, unless it somehow gets run as root, which would require social engineering or exploitation of unknown privilege escalation exploits.
[21:40] <ritalin> i only get 1
[21:40] <ritalin> man
[21:40] <user1> RyanPrior hm clam is good?
[21:40] <ritalin> you guys are strict
[21:40] <IndyGunFreak> RyanPrior: exactly
[21:40]  * ritalin hush's
[21:41] <RyanPrior> user1: Clam is good, but no antivirus catches everything.
[21:41] <Seveas> RyanPrior, there are tons of vulnerabilities waiting to be discovered though :)
[21:41] <GIn> user1: then you should scan windwos files passing through your server.. not virus directed to your server itself
[21:41] <IndyGunFreak> so as long as you're not being a bonehead and running everything in root(which would seem very unlikely on the *buntus), you'll be fine
[21:41] <user1> RyanPrior alot peple route througe me. so av will scann it too.
[21:41] <Seveas> IndyGunFreak, depends on what you call fine. My documents are way more important than everything else on the system
[21:41] <GIn> user1: use selinux if you're paranoid ;)
[21:41] <jking_> the only reason to scan files for virus in linux is to protech the windows systems you might be sharing files with
[21:41] <Seveas> so a virus running as me can do enough damage
[21:42] <RyanPrior> user1: If you're very concerned about exploits, I also suggest making extensive use of PolicyKit, D-BUS, and SELinux  in order to lock down your machine.
[21:42] <user1> GIn whats selinux?
[21:42] <GIn> user1: google
[21:42] <IndyGunFreak> Seveas: i guess i'm just one of those fools that keep really current backups..lol
[21:42] <IndyGunFreak> so i don't worry much
[21:42] <Seveas> IndyGunFreak, :)
[21:43] <jking_> same here IndyGunFreak
[21:43] <RyanPrior> user1: SELinux is a framework for additional security, further reducing the risk that a hijacked process could compromise the whole machine.
[21:43] <mweinelt_> hello
[21:43] <user1> RyanPrior GIn ok.. illl have alook. can you give hints what you want
[21:43] <mweinelt_> i have some issues with packagebuilding, is somebody willing to help me in private?
[21:43] <user1> RyanPrior ic
[21:43] <user1> RyanPrior whats dbus and policy kit
[21:43] <IndyGunFreak> mweinelt_: well, what are you trying to build?
[21:43] <mweinelt_> IndyGunFreak: aircrack-ng
[21:43] <IdleOne> didy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157897 found this in the forums try at own risk
[21:44] <IndyGunFreak> mweinelt_: thats in the repos if i recall
[21:44] <IndyGunFreak> !info aircrack
[21:44] <RyanPrior> user1: policy kit is a framework for utilizing DBUS, which is a system for (among other things) allowing unpriviledged processes to be able to very selectively elevate their priviledges to do certain tasks.
[21:44] <ubotu> aircrack (source: aircrack-ng): wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.9-1 (gutsy), package size 10 kB, installed size 48 kB
[21:44] <mweinelt_> yup outdated
[21:44] <IndyGunFreak> mweinelt_: so whats the issue, running into dependency probs?
[21:44] <Seveas> RyanPrior, err, that's a load of nonsense :)
[21:44] <dragisa> pozdrav
[21:45] <Sam827> hello, i have a 70GB hard drive and i wish to partition away 20GBs for Ubuntu nondestructively. I tried Gparted, but it won't work for me.
[21:45] <mweinelt_> no, i was using the tutorial in the german wiki, and it said after configuring the debian folder i should round dpkg-buildpackage
[21:45] <Seveas> RyanPrior, d-bus is an IPC system. policykit is its policy framework for determining who can send/receive what
[21:45] <didy> well on ubuntu, how do i remove/uninstall for eg an application with ALL RELATED components that come with it to ensure a FULL/COMPLETE uninstallation??
[21:45] <IndyGunFreak> mweinelt_: hmm, never heard that one.
[21:45] <mweinelt_> there i was asked for my gpg-keys password, and it doesn't give out any errors but i can't find any file to work with then
[21:45] <IndyGunFreak> no clue
[21:45] <mweinelt_> "dpkg-buildpackage -S -rfakeroot"
[21:46] <lordleemo> i like that hacking is not advertised on ubuntu but wifi cracking is?
[21:46] <RyanPrior> Seveas: sure, but IPC doesn't mean much unless something like PolicyKit is utilizing it, and PolicyKit does basically what I said - lets unprivileged processes pass certian messages with privileges.
[21:46] <Seveas> RyanPrior, what you mentioned is one way of using dbus: as IPC between a daemon running as privileged user and a gui running as unprivileged user. policikyt determines who can contact the daemon
[21:46] <RyanPrior> Seveas: I said (among other things) in order to indicate that dbus has many other uses.
[21:46] <mweinelt_> lordleemo: people that'd bother using are too dumb to use it anyways
[21:46] <user1> RyanPrior thanks!
[21:47] <mweinelt_> bother using in an illegal way
[21:47] <RyanPrior> Seveas: I'm not trying to be misleading, I'm trying to inform him about this one particular use of dbus which relates to the questions he has been asking.
[21:47] <lordleemo> mweinelt_: he he he yo
[21:47] <Seveas> RyanPrior, fair enough, sorry that I accused you falsely
[21:48] <bean-oh> can anyone help me getting a sierra mobile data card working?
[21:48] <user1> RyanPrior Seveas what about network intrussion. un auth access, ports scannin. etc..exploites.. etc?
[21:48] <matt444> is there any documentation on how to use the bluetooth analyzer
[21:48] <Sam827> hello, i have a 70GB hard drive and i wish to partition away 20GBs for Ubuntu nondestructively. I tried Gparted, but it won't work for me.
[21:48] <Seveas> user1, ubuntu comes with no open ports by default
[21:49] <user1> Seveas other things?
[21:49] <RyanPrior> user1: The iptables firewall system built into Linux ought to be able to drop unwanted packets. By default, Ubuntu drops all unsolicited incoming traffic.
[21:49] <IndyGunFreak> Sam827: why did gparted not work?
[21:49] <jking_> no ubuntu just closes the ports
[21:49] <jking_> by default
[21:49] <GIn> user1: you can't just rely on default settings, if you need to admin a server, go get a book on the topic
[21:49] <Seveas> user1, no open ports means no netork entrypoint for unauthorized access. port scanning will return nothing
[21:49] <user1> Seveas RyanPrior iam talking about real hackers
[21:49] <Seveas> jking_, no, ubuntu has no services listening on the outside by default
[21:49] <IndyGunFreak> user1: lol
[21:50] <Sam827> IndyGunFreak: Next to the NTFS system it shows a little yellow triangle with a !, and i cant resize it
[21:50] <greencookie> Hi, I would like to know how to access my desktop (this computer) from a windows machine on my network. please help!
[21:50] <RyanPrior> user1: As long as you have no open ports nobody can get any info by port scanning you and they have no mechanism for unauthorized entry.
[21:50] <jking_> user1 unplug the computer so the hackers cant get in
[21:50] <IndyGunFreak> Sam827: are you using the Ubuntu Live CD, or the Gparted Live CD?
[21:50] <Sam827> IndyGunFreak: I'm on the Ubuntu Live CD
[21:50] <user1> GIn Seveas IndyGunFreak RyanPrior, jking_ well i run an ircd a webhosting, email server.
[21:50] <RyanPrior> jking_: He's wanting to set up a server for others to use and he's asking questions about Ubuntu's network security. What's the problem?
[21:50] <jking_> Seveas is that not what a closed port is
[21:50] <IndyGunFreak> Sam827: is the NTFS partition mounted?
[21:51] <IndyGunFreak> user1: oh i just found what you said amusing, didn't say i don't agree with yo.
[21:51] <jking_> email on port 25 from your home?
[21:51] <electric_boogalo> is anyone successfully running Ardour with Hardy Heron?
[21:51] <GIn> user1: you shouldn't, go hire an admin :\
[21:51] <IceTox> Hello. Whenever I restart my ubuntu 7.10 desktop computer it falls down to low-graphics mode because it doesn't detect my nvidia 6600 GT graphical card correctly. Anyone knows how to fix this nvidia problem?
[21:51] <CarlFK> how much ram can the i386 kernel use?
[21:51] <Seveas> user1, then you're responsible for securing those :)
[21:51] <lukasz> hey people I am back :)
[21:51] <Sam827> IndyGunFreak: Damn. Is it that simple? I can't believe I didn't try that
[21:51] <Sam827> haha
[21:51] <GIn> user1: or learn how to admin a server ;)
[21:51] <IndyGunFreak> Sam827: lol :)
[21:51] <Gibb> the 6600gt doesnt have linux drivers?
[21:51] <jking_> no problem Ryan just overly worried about services best behind a firewall
[21:51] <IndyGunFreak> Sam827: i'm not saying thats definitely it, but its possible.
[21:51] <user1> IndyGunFreak i dont require you to agree.
[21:51] <matt444> how do you use bluetooth in ubuntu?
[21:52] <user1> GIn learn.. ? what do you think iam doing here
[21:52] <lukasz> What is the link for audio documentation
[21:52] <RyanPrior> user1: A lot of people are telling you "go read a book" and "go hire an admin", and what they're getting at is that all of these great security tools are only as good as the person configuring them. Linux and Ubuntu have great network security tools for your use, but you'll need to spend a lot of time researching and configuring them in order to have a secure system.
[21:52] <IndyGunFreak> user1: i know, i just thought what you said was funny
[21:52] <user1> Seveas ^
[21:52] <Sam827> IndyGunFreak: I'll try it
[21:52] <Seveas> user1, irc is not the place to learn things
[21:52] <Seveas> buy a few books
[21:52] <electric_boogalo> IceTox you need to enable the restricted nvidia drivers
[21:52] <user1> RyanPrior       yes......... i just need you to point me to the direction. ill do the rest. like reading
[21:53] <GIn> user1: you are not learning here. go get a book and a machine to learn ;)
[21:53]  * IndyGunFreak points user1 to Google.. http://www.google.com
[21:53] <user1> IndyGunFreak thanks for informing :)
[21:53] <Seveas> user1, www.oreilly.com -- find the books that match things you want to know about.
[21:53] <Dr_Link> I tried to do Ubuntu LiveUSB, even after attempting to repair the MBR, I still get "Boot Error" when I try to boot from it.
[21:53] <user1> Seveas iirc its a place for guidance. and pointing
[21:53] <DeadLy_sp> hello
[21:53] <Dr_Link> any ideas?
[21:53] <RyanPrior> user1: I suggest books by the publisher O'Reilly, which you can probably find at local bookstores and on Amazon.
[21:53] <user1> GIn ^
[21:53] <Seveas> user1, I'm pointing you to oreilly.com :)
[21:53] <Sam827> IndyGunFreak: now it has a lock icon next to /dev/sda2
[21:53] <lukasz> nevermind found it
[21:53] <lukasz> :)
[21:54] <IndyGunFreak> Sam827: join me in #indygunfreak
[21:54] <RyanPrior> user1: There are books on Linux in general, on network security, on viruses, on specific applications you'll need to secure, and so on.
[21:54]  * user1 is being pointed
[21:54] <DeadLy_sp> i've installed winxp from virtualbox, dxdiag not work, i need install directx or nvidia driver or ....? help please
[21:54] <Sam827> IndyGunFreak: Sure.
[21:54] <user1> RyanPrior ic
[21:54] <Seveas> RyanPrior, and oreilly has them all :)
[21:54] <lukasz> I enabled cache writing for my disk :)
[21:54] <user1> RyanPrior can you recomend some apps that do the security things?
[21:55] <GIn> user1: Linux is not windows, I don't think you are serious.
[21:55] <IceTox> electric_boogalo, thank you for answering. Now, I'm quite new to this things. I've already tried to enable the restricted nvidia drivers, but when I try that I'm told that "nvidia-glx-new is not enabled".
[21:55] <RyanPrior> user1: understanding the Linux kernel, Apache web server, SMTP mail protocol, and networking principals in general ought to give you a good starting point and lots of universally useful knowledge.
[21:55] <DeadLy_sp> hello unop_ :)
[21:56] <RyanPrior> user1: From there, you ought to have a pretty good idea of where to go for more security-specific details.
[21:56] <user1> RyanPrior i have done the configureing thing. need some extras
[21:56] <DeadLy_sp> i've installed winxp from virtualbox, dxdiag not work, i need install directx or nvidia driver or ...
[21:56] <user1> RyanPrior good firewalls. network intrussion systems. etc
[21:56] <electric_boogalo> IceTox....hmmm. What ubuntu version are you using
[21:56] <Seveas> DeadLy_sp, you can't use direct3d in a virtual machine
[21:56] <IceTox> electric_boogalo, sorry, misread that message. it says that "The software source for the package nvidia-glx-new is not enabled"
[21:56] <IceTox> electric_boogalo, 7.10
[21:56] <RyanPrior> user1: The Linux kernel contains iptables, a flexible and powerful firewalling system.
[21:56] <DeadLy_sp> Seveas: opengl then?
[21:57] <electric_boogalo> iIceTox, do you use synaptic?
[21:57] <Seveas> DeadLy_sp, I doubt it but never tried
[21:57] <user1> RyanPrior i have it configured already. by firestarter
[21:57] <RyanPrior> user1: Network intrusion detection is something of a black art, and I don't know much about it myself, but there may be some books on the topic.
[21:57] <GIn> user1: mind to tell how old you are? :p
[21:57] <mattius> Anyone aware of any gathering spaces for Ubuntu folks/users specifically playing with IPv6?
[21:57] <bean-oh> DeadLy_sp, Seveas is right, you're limited to vbox video drivers
[21:57] <Seveas> GIn, please save a/s/l for facebook...
[21:57] <RyanPrior> user1: At this point there's not much more pointing you can do. Lots of good suggestions were given to you - read up into the channel backlog if you missed any of it
[21:58] <user1> GIn no
[21:58] <electric_boogalo> IceTox In synaptic, poke around the menus and determine if you can enable some other repositories, like restricted
[21:58] <jking_> stranger danger
[21:58] <IceTox> electric_boogalo, already on it. You gave me a light :-)
[21:58] <eth01> lol
[21:58] <user1> RyanPrior i cant remember a name..   i heard it with gaurdog.. its for network intrussion.. never mind
[21:58] <electric_boogalo> IceTox cool beans then
[21:58] <Sonderblade> WHY can't i install libboost-filesystem-dev? it says "dependencies that cannot be satisfied: bla bla"
[21:59] <jking_> guarddog is a firewall app
[21:59] <jking_> actually a frontend for iptables
[21:59] <Seveas> Sonderblade, your sources.list may be broken
[21:59] <user1> RyanPrior  thanks !
[21:59] <Orbixx> Trying to do a netboot installation from pc to pc with a windows pc to install ubuntu on a laptop.
[21:59] <Orbixx> Using Tftpd32.
[21:59] <Sonderblade> Seveas: how so? i apt-get updated very recently
[21:59] <RyanPrior> Sonderblade: there are evidently some unsatisfied dependencies. Perhaps try enabling the source code repositories, if they aren't already?
[21:59] <Orbixx> Laptop isn't picking the DHCP server up.
[21:59] <IceTox> electric_boogalo, well, all packages is already installed. Should I reinstall them and hope for better days? :-)
[21:59] <Orbixx> Any suggestions?
[21:59] <RyanPrior> user1: Good luck. :-)
[21:59] <Seveas> Sonderblade, pastebin your sources.list
[22:00] <user1> RyanPrior thanks !
[22:00] <electric_boogalo> IceTox are you sure you havre the restricted repos avail ? Then hit refresh
[22:00]  * IndyGunFreak breaks Seveas 's source list w/ automatix
[22:00] <IceTox> electric_boogalo, I find restricted-manager and restricted-manager-core. Both are already installed.
[22:00] <Sonderblade> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/d31115b3a
[22:00] <fidelio> hi
[22:01] <electric_boogalo> icetox: also use multiverse
[22:01] <Seveas> Sonderblade, that sources.list isn't necessarily broken but it is suboptimal
[22:01] <IndyGunFreak> Sonderblade: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:01] <Sonderblade> IndyGunFreak: gutsy
[22:02] <IndyGunFreak> wow.
[22:02] <Sonderblade> Seveas: something is still preventing me from installing libboost-filesystem-dev
[22:02] <fidelio> I am trying to add a printer using CUPS and I am getting asked user name an password. When I enter root passwrd it does nto work..any ideas?
[22:02] <Seveas> Sonderblade, I'll fix your sources.list, hang on
[22:02] <IndyGunFreak> sub optimal.. thats diplomatic of you Seveas lol
[22:03] <KrimZon> does anyone know why lvpm isn't working for me in wubi with ubuntu 8.04 ?
[22:03] <Sonderblade> IndyGunFreak: WHATS WRONG WITH MY SOURCES??
[22:03] <IndyGunFreak> Sonderblade: look at it
[22:03] <Seveas> Sonderblade, http://pastebin.com/m7a1f06f7
[22:03] <jking_> whoa grumpy
[22:03] <user1> can any one name an anti network intrusion tool?
[22:04] <Seveas> user1, snort
[22:04] <greencookie> will someone help me set up ssh please?
[22:04] <Orbixx> Backtrack
[22:04] <Sonderblade> IndyGunFreak: i can't see it. it is beautiful
[22:04] <jking_> user1 scissors
[22:04] <Seveas> greencookie, apt-get install openssh-server
[22:04] <user1> Seveas yaaaaaaaaa
[22:04] <Sonderblade> Seveas: thanks
[22:04] <fidelio> user 1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[22:04] <user1> Seveas that was the one i forgot
[22:04] <user1> RyanPrior its snort. and its nice
[22:04] <Seveas> Sonderblade, basically: you were missing updates/security for universe/multiverse
[22:05] <fidelio> anybody expert with CUPS password issues?
[22:05] <greencookie> Seveas: I have it, I'm kinda new to this whole thing so just wondering if I could have additional assistance:)
[22:05] <Seveas> greencookie, that's all that's needed :)
[22:05] <greencookie> I already have openssh.
[22:05] <greencookie> is there a wiki howto ?
[22:05] <RyanPrior> user1: I hadn't heard of Snort. Looks cool though.
[22:06] <didy> ﻿how do i put application on auto start....well on ubuntu, how do i remove/uninstall for eg an application with ALL RELATED components that come with it to ensure a FULL/COMPLETE uninstallation??
[22:06] <Seveas> RyanPrior, snort's good
[22:06] <user1> RyanPrior its quite popular
[22:06] <RyanPrior> Seveas: It doesn't turn your computer into Vista, turning its nose up at every thing you want to do?
[22:06] <Seveas> RyanPrior, :D
[22:07] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[22:07] <Seveas> RyanPrior, no that would be 'selinux' :p
[22:08] <Sonderblade> Seveas: thanks your sources worked
[22:08] <Flare183> Where is the usb.h be located at?'
[22:09] <chris42050707> i got a dvd playback question
[22:09] <mattius> Is the error message I get after EVERY update  dpkg: error processing gcc-3.4-doc (--configure):
[22:09] <mattius>  a genuine bug or a result of something incredibly stupid action from my part? (Hardy Beta)
[22:09] <Orbixx> It's not often I need someone to hold my hand.
[22:09] <chris42050707> how do i go about making totem play dvd's
[22:09] <Orbixx> But I'm incredibly stuck with netboot with a windows machine.
[22:09] <RyanPrior> !css | chris42050707
[22:09] <IndyGunFreak> !dvd | chris42050707
[22:09] <ubotu> chris42050707: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[22:10] <Seveas> mattius, could be either. pastebin the entire output of dpkg --configure -a
[22:10] <chris42050707> okay cool
[22:10] <chris42050707> thanks
[22:10] <RyanPrior> chris42050707: Enjoy.
[22:10] <chris42050707> for sure lol i got 2 odf 3 opticals working now lol peace out yall
[22:11] <Seveas> mattius, though only catastrophically stupid things should be able to make that bork, so I'm suspecting a bug :)
[22:11] <wells_> any one to help me with my new box selection?
[22:11] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[22:12] <RyanPrior> wells_: I suggest cardboard. Cheap, effective, biodegradable.
[22:12] <jking_> and somewhat warm in the winter
[22:12] <jking_> although that shouldn't be a problem
[22:12] <wells_> ha! ha! ha!
[22:13] <Seveas> RyanPrior, steel's tougher though
[22:13] <wells_> I'm planing to buy a new computer and I want to make shure it will run ubuntu without any flw
[22:13] <jking_> steel has that industrious look not very homey
[22:13] <wells_> intel core duo E8400-3.0/6M/133
[22:13] <wells_> Mb asus P5b 1333FBS ddr2 pci-e
[22:13] <wells_> geforce 8500T 512 M pci-e
[22:14] <jking_> sounds good so far
[22:14] <Seveas> !hardware
[22:14] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[22:14] <indymx> anyone get 4 monitors working in 8.04?
[22:14] <Seveas> wells_, ^
[22:14] <mattius> Here you go Seveas - http://pastebin.com/d1d18b5e4
[22:14] <Seveas> those hardware lists aren't complete though
[22:14] <jking_> c c c combo breaker
[22:14] <RyanPrior> wells_: All of thouse ought to work, I think.
[22:14] <Seveas> mattius, that would be a bug, try removing the package
[22:15] <icanhasadmin> so.. if one were to compile custom drivers... how would one then go about removing them?
[22:15] <GIn> wells_: just google for Ubuntu gutsy + hardware model
[22:15] <mattius> Thanks Seveas. Will do.
[22:15] <Seveas> icanhasadmin, depends on how you installed them :)
[22:15] <jking_> if you are going laptop be very choosey and research it completely
[22:16] <icanhasadmin> Seveas: sudo make && sudo make install :P
[22:16] <jking_> i just bought a dell d830 and it is a little work to get everything although less work with 8.04
[22:16] <Monobi> Any easy way to edit iptable, or block certain ports?
[22:16] <GIn> or get dell laptop with ubuntu preinstalled
[22:16] <Seveas> icanhasadmin, sudo make uninstall if possible otherwise careful searching and rm
[22:16] <RyanPrior> icanhasadmin: Hope the makefile is human-readable and you can figure out where it put shit. :-)
[22:16] <indymx> anyone get 4 monitors working in 8.04?
[22:16] <jking_> i wish i could have bought one preinstalled
[22:17] <magnetron> !anyone | indymx
[22:17] <ubotu> indymx: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[22:17] <Seveas> Monobi, iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 443 -J REJECT ----- that would block incoming https
[22:17] <icanhasadmin> Seveas: RyanPrior: Thank you, both those things make sense.
[22:17] <jking_> I get a budget for a laptop from work and our dell plan only has certain laptops on it
[22:17] <[Ely]> How do I go about installing a .package file in Ubuntu guys? aMSN said an update was available, I went to their site and what they offer is this .package file which I can't find out how to open.
[22:17] <[Ely]> thanks
[22:17] <Monobi> Seveas, ah, what about IRC ports?
[22:17] <jking_> .package file?
[22:17] <Seveas> Monobi, incoming or outgoing?
[22:17] <[Ely]> yeap
[22:17] <Monobi> Seveas, outgoing
[22:17] <Seveas> Monobi, iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 6667 -J REJECT
[22:17] <Monobi> Thanks
[22:18] <[Ely]> it said it ws the stand alone installer.
[22:18] <Seveas> repeat for 6668, 6669, 7000 and 8001
[22:18] <Monobi> Right
[22:18] <indymx> Errr
[22:18] <Monobi> Or 6667:7000 right?
[22:18] <jking_> debian based distros use .deb files and .bin files the later being distro independent most of the time
[22:18] <Seveas> Monobi, you need another flag for that and I forgot which. The manpage knows :)
[22:18] <icanhasadmin> Seveas: so i have this funny issue with gdm / gnome-session... care to give it a troubleshoot with me?
[22:18] <Monobi> Ok :)
[22:18] <jking_> Ely what application is it?
[22:19] <Monobi> Thank you
[22:19] <Seveas> icanhasadmin, just explain in here and see who answers
[22:19] <[Ely]> k jking_ maybe I need to get a new file, perhaps I got the wrong one, and the application is aMSN.
[22:19] <Monobi> Seveas, hmm:  iptables v1.3.6: Unknown arg `-J'
[22:19] <jking_> have you searched within synaptic
[22:19] <jking_> for aMSN
[22:19] <Seveas> Monobi, -j sorry
[22:19] <[Ely]> what's synaptic ?
[22:19] <Monobi> Oh, ok :)
[22:19] <jking_> the package management application for ubuntu
[22:20] <[Ely]> how do I run it? and will get the latest version?
[22:20] <indymx> Lemme try it this way then, is there a tutorial available for getting 4 monitor, connected to 2 different ATI cards (one RV280 and one RV350) working?
[22:20] <RyanPrior> icanhasadmin: It's hard to know if we can help you until you actually describe the problem, so it helps to just start with a description.
[22:20] <jking_> found by clicking system ->administration->synaptic
[22:20] <icanhasadmin> So when i boot, the gdm login splash comes up.. i login, and then it hangs.. mouse can move, but nothing else. if i ctrl+alt+f1, i can /etc/init.d/gdm stop, and then startx, and GNOME loads fine. can't figure out what's causing the initial hang, happens everytime. if i go to a different term and "top" or "ps auxw" nothing out of the ordinary seems to be taking up cpu/mem or running. in fact init is pretty much the onl
[22:21] <jking_> if available it will be the latest tested version
[22:21] <[Ely]> ok thanks jking_
[22:21] <[Ely]> let me try it
[22:21] <jking_> Ely what version of ubuntu are you running
[22:21] <badboy2008> hi there
[22:21] <Seveas> icanhasadmin, is the 'lo' network interface up?
[22:21] <jking_> Ely will pidgin not work for you as it supports MSN
[22:22] <[Ely]> jking_, it's the latest version of Ubuntu I believe
[22:22] <icanhasadmin> Seveas: i'm... 90% sure it is. i mean it is now. im' pretty sure it is when i boot too. it's funny you say that because the only other "problem" i'm having right now is my wifi drivers
[22:22] <RyanPrior> jking_: Pidign, included by default in Ubuntu, lets you log into your MSN account. Applications -> Internet -> Pidgin
[22:23] <jking_> that is what I am telling him Ryan thanks though
[22:23] <jking_> pidgin | [Ely]
[22:23] <jking_> !pidgin | [Ely]
[22:23] <ubotu> [Ely]: The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[22:23] <IndyGunFreak> jking_: some people are slow, if they don't hear it from 10 different people, nobody said it..lol
[22:23] <yuri_> Q: I just installed clamtk (gui for clamav) but it tells me that there are 0 virus sigs. when I hit "update sigs" it tells me that they are up to date. I also made symlinks from the /etc/clamav to /etc/ of freshclam.conf and clamd.conf... still no go, what am i doing wrong?
[22:23] <matt444> does ubuntu have usbfs enabled?
[22:24] <RyanPrior> yuri_: Try running clamtk as root.
[22:24] <jking_> no problem with Ryan I understand Thanks Indy you have been in here all day your brain must hurt
[22:24] <badboy2008> ;)
[22:24] <yuri_> RyanPrior: same response
[22:24] <Seveas> matt444, only in the final release. Not during development to encourage people not to use it. It's deprecated
[22:24] <IndyGunFreak> jking_: no, actually my ear hurts, thats why i'm here, didn't feel like working today, and what other way to further agonize myself, than sit in #ubuntu all day
[22:24] <icanhasadmin> Seveas: could it have to do with my wifi drivers?
[22:24] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[22:24] <Seveas> icanhasadmin, no
[22:25]  * Seveas hugs IndyGunFreak 
[22:25] <RyanPrior> yuri_: try running sudo freshclam
[22:25] <IndyGunFreak> Seveas: your sensitive side scares me..lol
[22:25] <matt444> lsusb
[22:25] <jking_> IndyGunFreak definitely...I am a sysadmin by trade so i have no idea why i am hear on a saturday
[22:25] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[22:25] <Seveas> IndyGunFreak, I guess you didn't see the ice pick in my left hand
[22:25] <matt444> ok, i do lsusb and I see my device is bus 005.  how do I mount that?
[22:26] <IndyGunFreak> Seveas: lol, i knew it!
[22:26] <lolfrenz> bus ? :/
[22:26] <Trollet> Hello, I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 Beta. I have a couple of problems to connect with DHCP to Internet trough my router. The problem is that the Ubuntu computer doesn't has the same netmask  and ip-spread as the other computer that is connected to Internet trough the same router. Is there anyone who think he/she has a sollution?
[22:26] <noodles12> is there a way to tell if you're laptop speakers are "blown" ? My sound doesn't work except for when i'm plugged into headphones. The kmix thing shows up and it is OFF mute and all the volumes are put up high.
[22:26] <jking_> i will be right back
[22:26] <RyanPrior> !hardy | Trollet
[22:26] <IndyGunFreak> Trollet: ubuntu#1 for Hardy support
[22:26] <ubotu> Trollet: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:26] <matt444> lolfrenz: yes, that's what lsusb shows you
[22:26] <yuri_> RyanPrior: it tells me that my version is outdated, but there are 21128 virus sigs
[22:26] <linkinxp> Trollet:  change the workgroup?
[22:27] <RyanPrior> yuri_: That ought to upgrade it for you.
[22:27] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[22:27] <noodles12> mcc
[22:27] <IndyGunFreak> ya think?
[22:27] <yuri_> RyanPrior: thanks, I think its an issue with clamtk... ill give the test files a scan and see if clamscan catches them. ill just skip the gui
[22:28] <matt444> how do I mount a USB?
[22:28] <TomW> eyup, can anyone help me with ipod touch + gutsy + virtualbox?
[22:28] <Trollet> linkinxp: yes
[22:28] <fernando> hi! K3B freezes my DVD drive, any ideas?
[22:28] <linkinxp> Trollet: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_beginner_books/unofficial_ubuntu_starter_guide/index_105.html
[22:29] <sailaway85> whayt is the hardy channel name
[22:29] <Trollet> ubotu: ok
[22:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:29] <Seveas> sailaway85, #ubuntu+1
[22:29] <sailaway85> thanks alot
[22:29] <Seveas> !bot | Trollet
[22:29] <ubotu> Trollet: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:29] <jking_> smart bots are smart
[22:30] <TomW> eyup, can anyone help me with ipod touch + gutsy + virtualbox?
[22:30] <fernando> hi! K3B freezes my DVD drive, any ideas?
[22:30] <Seveas> !repeat | tomw
[22:30] <ubotu> tomw: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[22:30] <qebab> Hi, I was wondering if there is a way to make sure that the keyboard layout does not change on a reboot? I am currenly using dvorak, but when I reboot, it get's reset to qwerty until I have logged in.
[22:30] <TomW> cheers for that
[22:30] <TomW> lol
[22:31] <fernando> ok, sorry.
[22:31] <biro> I run ubuntu dekstop on my main box. I'm setting up another machine as a test platform with ubuntu server edition. During the SE installation, I get an error saying "network autoconfiguration failed". Any idea what I can do to get the two machines to connect?
[22:32] <biro> the two are connected via cat5
[22:32] <TomW> !enter | biro
[22:32] <ubotu> biro: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[22:32] <Draggin> Ola! Is there a better place than here to ask this... I need some info on Compiz and Emerald
[22:32] <Seveas> qebab, you can set the keyboard layout in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:32] <Seveas> Draggin, try #compiz-fusion
[22:33] <qebab> Seveas: aha, that's where it finds the settings it uses until I am logged in?
[22:33] <Seveas> biro, configure static addresses on both ends
[22:33] <Draggin> Seveas - thanks
[22:33]  * jking_ does not read fast enough
[22:34] <TomW> ok, will change the question. does anyone know how to stop ipod touch from being recognised as a camera?
[22:34] <Seveas> qebab, not exactly -- those are the default GUI settings, so used by the login window. Settings for the terminal are defined elsewhere
[22:34] <fernando> I dist-upgraded from 7.04 some time ago, but my sources.lst still says feisty, and lsb_release still says feisty
[22:34] <Seveas> qebab, but this should do what you want to do :)
[22:34] <TomW> ... change the sources.lst
[22:34] <TomW> then sudo apt-get update
[22:35] <TomW> !enter TomW
[22:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter tomw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:35] <TomW> !enter | TomW
[22:35] <Seveas> fernando, you didn't upgrade completely then :)
[22:35] <TomW> lols
[22:35] <fernando> I just ran a dist-upgrade now, and it says that there's nothing to do
[22:35] <Seveas> fernando, pastebin your sources.list
[22:35] <fernando> pastebin? (sorry , new to irc)
[22:36] <danbhfive> fernando: have you tried using the update-manager?
[22:36] <Seveas> !pastebin | fernando
[22:36] <qebab> Seveas: alright, that's more than good enough :) any idea what X wants it to say on "XkbdLayout" for it to default to dvorak?
[22:36] <ubotu> fernando: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:36] <_moro_bana_> any tool i can use to view the ip address of the computers on the network, not just icons
[22:36] <Seveas> qebab, my guess is dvorak
[22:36] <fernando> ok
[22:36] <danbhfive> fernando: I don't think cli upgrades are supported for feisty
[22:36] <_moro_bana_> ?
[22:36] <Seveas> danbhfive, they are
[22:36] <sachael> ok, this is a stupid question from someone using Linux for 1 year, but yesterday I installed Ubuntu and I couldn't put a shortcut to my home folder on the desktop?!?
[22:36] <jking_> moro bana use nmap
[22:37] <jking_> usage: nmap network/cidr
[22:37] <jking_> i.e. nmap 192.168.1.0/24
[22:37] <fernando> done: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62969/
[22:37] <_moro_bana_> jking_: that a terminal command?
[22:37] <jking_> yes moro
[22:37] <Seveas> fernando, that still says feisty
[22:37] <TomW> @ fernando change all the feistys to gutsy
[22:37] <Seveas> fernando, and do NOT use debian repos in ubuntu
[22:38] <qebab> Seveas: I'll try that, but I learnt the hard way that it's best to make sure when editing xorg.conf, so just thought I'd ask in case you knew :) thanks again
[22:38] <fernando> correct, shouldn't it say gutsy?
[22:38] <Seveas> that will only break things
[22:38] <fernando> I though dist-upgrade would change things
[22:38] <foibles> is there a known glitch for printing pdf documents in dcp printing or something?
[22:38] <Seveas> fernando, dist-upgrade won't change your sources.list
[22:38] <fernando> ah!!! ok
[22:38] <foibles> im trying to pring a pdf document, and my printer keeps spitting out an error page
[22:38] <foibles> print*
[22:38] <Seveas> fernando, and please disable that debian-multimedia repo right now
[22:39] <CorbinFox> Would anyone know how to change the functions of the buttons on my Wacom tablet's stylus?
[22:39] <_moro_bana_> jking_: will that display the ips on my network?
[22:39] <fernando> what's the problem with that repository?
[22:39] <jking_> what is your ip address moro?
[22:39] <Seveas> fernando, it's for debian, not ubuntu. For an ubuntu equivalent, use medibuntu
[22:39] <jking_> i can tell you the cidr to help you
[22:39] <Seveas> !medibuntu > fernando
[22:39] <fernando> ahh! ok
[22:39] <danbhfive> !medibuntu | fernando     try this, instead of the debian-multimedia, just for safety.  Its probably the same file anyway  :p
[22:39] <ubotu> fernando     try this, instead of the debian-multimedia, just for safety.  Its probably the same file anyway  :p: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[22:39] <_moro_bana_> jking_: click on my nick, you will see it
[22:40] <sachael> so, how do I put a shortcut to my home folder on the desktop? I would make a link with "ln", but I'm trying to use Ubuntu without a terminal
[22:40] <jking_> Not a private network you will have to seek help elsewhere
[22:40] <_moro_bana_> jking_: or you mean for the local network
[22:40] <jking_> moro bana most ISPs do not like to have thier network scanned
[22:40] <jking_> yes local network
[22:40] <fernando> btw, I'm using kubuntu, anything different I should do?
[22:40] <danbhfive> sachael: why not use the places menu?
[22:40] <matt444> how do i know what correspondes between lsusb and the /dev/ device?
[22:41] <jking_> the ip for the local computer you are using not the address your router has or the isp gave you
[22:41] <_moro_bana_> jking_; just a local area network.
[22:41] <sachael> danbhfive, too much clicks
[22:41] <jking_> moro so 192.168.1.XX?
[22:41] <CorbinFox> Would anyone know how to change the functions of the buttons on my Wacom tablet's stylus?
[22:41] <unop_> sachael, i don't use gnome but you should be able to right click and create a launcher / shortcut on the desktop
[22:41] <_moro_bana_> jking_: nmap 10.6.10.1149  is my ip
[22:41] <moe_> Hello World
[22:42] <sammas22> hi
[22:42] <_moro_bana_> you are welcome
[22:42] <jking_> ok there are 32768 ip address on that network at minimum without subnetting
[22:42] <moe_> meinst Du mich ? samas22?
[22:42] <brendan__> hello
[22:43] <algyz> !de | moe_
[22:43] <ubotu> moe_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[22:43] <jking_> moro can you tell me your subnet mask?
[22:43] <ALiENz> anyone can help me??
[22:43] <ALiENz> with hardy?
[22:43] <qebab> ubuntu-no
[22:43] <Odd-rationale> !hardy
[22:43] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:43] <algyz> !hardy | AlienX
[22:43] <ubotu> AlienX: please see above
[22:43] <_moro_bana_> jking_: 255:255:255:0
[22:43] <qebab> err, sorry about that
[22:44] <jking_> ok nmap 10.6.10.0/24
[22:44] <ALiENz> i have rebootted and now if i try to start some app gnome lock all
[22:44] <jking_> will tell you all 254 computers on your network
[22:44] <ALiENz> i have traied to delete .gnome2
[22:44] <ALiENz> but nothing
[22:44] <jking_> if all addresses are used ofc
[22:44] <CorbinFox> Would anyone know how I can change the functions of the buttons on my Wacom tablet's stylus?  The right click function is set to the wrong button for my liking
[22:44] <cybojanek> Hi
[22:44] <ALiENz> how i can do?
[22:44] <knoppix> hi
[22:44] <_moro_bana_> jking_: thanks
[22:44] <cybojanek> I just installed ubuntu hardy 8.04 and I have no sound.
[22:45] <jking_> my pleasure moro
[22:45] <cybojanek> I use an audigy 2zs platinmum pro card
[22:45] <Pirate_Hunter> je ju jaja conky is kl hahaha
[22:45] <danbhfive> ALiENz: hardy support is in #ubuntu+1
[22:45] <cybojanek> Any suggestions?
[22:45] <cybojanek> ALiENz: Sorry
[22:45] <cybojanek> ALiENz: thanks
[22:45] <jking_> moro you might want to pipe the output to a file
[22:45] <jking_> ok nmap 10.6.10.0/24 | netmap
[22:46] <moe_> Hello
[22:46] <_moro_bana_> jking_: where will that go
[22:46] <jking_> that line i just gave will send all output to the file netmap
[22:47] <_moro_bana_> moe_: if you have a problem ,people are here to help
[22:47] <jking_> then you can more easily move through it with the less command
[22:47] <jking_> less netmap
[22:47] <gregcha117> ahhh someone please help me I havent had sound for weeks and no ones been able to help me out
[22:47] <Seveas> jking_, err, you want > netmap and not | netmap :)
[22:47] <_moro_bana_> jking_: i see
[22:48] <jking_> my bad Seveas you are correct
[22:48] <jking_> used to piping to grep and then to a file
[22:48] <moe__> sup ppl
[22:48] <jking_> moro correction
[22:48] <jking_> nmap 10.6.10.0/24 > netmap
[22:48] <_moro_bana_> seen
[22:48] <jking_> i apologize
[22:48] <bidget> anyone have any experience installing eve-online with wine?
[22:49] <gregcha117> please someone help me get my sound back im getting desperate
[22:49] <fernando> hmmmm....I was looking at /etc/ap, and even though sources.list says feisty, under sources.list.d I have edgy.list
[22:49] <siginigin> hi, how can i turn off notice messages in kopete, like somebody has quit, or somebody has status away?
[22:49] <_moro_bana_> jking_: u should not, to error is human
[22:49] <danbhfive> gregcha117: how did you loose your sound?
[22:49] <jking_> but i am a bot
[22:49] <fernando> Adept Manager also says feisty
[22:49] <jking_> just kidding
[22:49] <Seveas> fernando, get rid of that :)
[22:49] <timothywcrane> what id the broadcast Ip in the network tools?
[22:49] <fernando> and it gives me the option of "dist upgrade"
[22:50] <moe__> hay who got ubuntu 8.04
[22:50] <gregcha117> danbhfive: i have no idea, after an update it just stopped working, everything appears to be working but i have no sound and im stuck using my windows boot
[22:50] <mweinelt_> me
[22:50] <bidget> anyone?
[22:50] <fernando> the thing is I remember running a dist upgrade from Adept manager some time ag
[22:50] <Seveas> moe__, hardy support in #ubuntu+1
[22:50] <_moro_bana_> jking_: i only know ubotu is a bot
[22:50] <ponygirl> hi
[22:50] <moe__> i can't install it it keep crashing
[22:50] <amitprakash> hi.. is it possible to retain any changes made using the desktop cd??
[22:50] <jking_> yeah i am just messing around
[22:50] <benobo> hej
[22:50] <fernando> maybe it didn't finish for some reason, and I ended up with a hybrid?
[22:50] <moe__> i'm staying with ubunut 10
[22:51] <bidget> anyone have experience with installing games in wine? I'm getting a weird error, something about it rendering graphics in software mode
[22:51] <Seveas> fernando, it never even started if you didn't change your sources.list
[22:51] <_moro_bana_> jking_: lol, those bots cant error, can they?
[22:51] <ponygirl> Were is my boy friend brian
[22:51] <ubotu> _moro_bana_ sure we can
[22:51] <amitprakash> bidget, do u have direct acceleration enabed?
[22:51] <jking_> they might be able to but you never know
[22:51] <fernando> even if I use Adept Manager?
[22:51] <jking_> well there you go
[22:51] <meoblast001> what is the command used to configure gnome?
[22:51] <danbhfive> gregcha117: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:51] <bidget> Im not sure amitprakash where would I enable that?
[22:51] <amitprakash> hi.. is it possible to retain any changes made using the desktop cd?? like retaining a driver change?
[22:51] <bidget> is it in winecfg?
[22:51] <Seveas> amitprakash, yes
[22:52] <fernando> so the safest thing now would be to remove those edgy.list files, change sources.list and run a command line dist-upgrade?
[22:52] <amitprakash> bidget, type this in konsole and paste the output "glxinfo | grep direct"
[22:52] <amitprakash> Seveas, how should i achieve this?
[22:52] <gregory> amitprakash: not with the live-cd. after installation you have two seperate systems
[22:52] <bidget> amitprakash: k one sec
[22:52] <_moro_bana_> jking_: there are commands to telling that bot what to say
[22:52] <CorbinFox> amitprakash: i dont think for a CD normally, but you can do various things in conjuction with USB drives and if you want you can install  ubuntu directly to a USB flash drive
[22:52] <Seveas> amitprakash, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[22:52] <amitprakash> Seveas, thanks a lot
[22:52] <bidget> amitprakash: direct rendering: Yes
[22:52] <CorbinFox> amitprakash: http://pendrivelinux.com  can help with some of this too
[22:52] <gregcha117> danbhfive: 8.04 right now and i thought the kernel upgrade would fix my sound problems ive got 2.6.24.16 now but i lost sound on 2.6.24.12 and my old kernels it disappeared on too when i reverted, although initially they worked fine when i booted the older ones
[22:52] <_moro_bana_> jking_: i love this, who is programming these bots
[22:53] <ubotu> _moro_bana_ nobody. We are sentient beings with our own ideas
[22:53] <amitprakash> bidget, hmm pastebin exactly what wine says.. also what graphics card and driver are you using
[22:53] <TailsLinux> lol
[22:53] <CorbinFox> I for one welcome our robot overlords
[22:53] <danbhfive> gregcha117: you should try either #ubuntu+1 or launchpad.net
[22:53] <IdleOne> gregcha117: have you tried using 2.6.24-16-generic
[22:53] <bidget> amitprakash: I have an 8800gt... driver is the latest nvidia driver... I'll paste what wine says in one sec...
[22:53] <ubotu> CorbinFox: no more /. for you
[22:54] <gregcha117> idleone: it wont boot for me, it says something about waiting for root file system and doesnt start althought 2.6.24-16 386 boots fine
[22:54] <meoblast001> is there any way to change what side of a window the title bar is on?
[22:54] <_moro_bana_> jking_: lol, you were built
[22:55] <blakis21> Hello I just did a fresh install and i only have 2 resolution options? I'm a noobie...
[22:55] <IdleOne> ubotu ping
[22:55] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[22:55] <_daniel_> Hey I have a small problem with FSTAB, I need to let users mount a device and be able to read and write to it, I added the following to /etc/fstab
[22:55] <_daniel_> #/dev/sda3
[22:55] <_daniel_> UUID=72fc5be0-8844-4d48-80d0-24d48a571ce2  /media/virtual/  ext3 user,rw  0	0
[22:55] <bidget> amitprakash: there are a few different lines
[22:55] <_daniel_> THe problem is that even though users are able to mount the partition, they cant write to it\
[22:55] <timothywcrane> i am confused a little bit, set up static Ip, (for torrent port forwarding through router), did what is my IP. My old IP still lists in browser, but says there is a "private IP" showing (my static IP). Is this normal?
[22:55] <jking_> lol no i am human but the ubotu was build by someone with way too much time on their hands
[22:55] <Seveas> _daniel_, you need to chown/chmod the files/dirs properly
[22:55] <bidget> amitprakash: most of them look like this: fixme:d3d:state_shademode WINED3DSHADE_PHONG isn't supported
[22:56] <bmeynell> how can i tell if my disk is dying? is there a diagnostic tool?
[22:56] <_daniel_> Seveas, mount changes those properties automatically when mounted
[22:56] <Seveas> _daniel_, not for ext3
[22:56] <_daniel_> well its doing it
[22:56] <amitprakash> bidget, those are directx calls that wine prolly hasnt implemented yet
[22:56] <_daniel_> look
[22:56] <Seveas> ext3 has proper permissions
[22:56] <_moro_bana_> jking_: --fix-missing   what comes before that?
[22:56] <inspired12> hey I have been dropping to the busyBox kernel halfway during the installation. I am not sure what to do from there, is there anyone with any experience with it?
[22:56] <jking_> apt-get
[22:57] <bidget> amitprakash: I see.... would that explain why the graphics aren't working properly?? I swear yesterday it was saying something about software rendering...
[22:57] <bidget> amitprakash: ohhhh wait the software rendering problem was with half-life 2 not eve, sorry
[22:57] <inspired12> the busy box thing is like a terminal, but it is not in linux
[22:57] <bidget> amitprakash: I've having problems with a few games hahaha
[22:57] <amitprakash> bidget, cant u run hl2 in opengl mode?
[22:57] <CorbinFox> Does anyone here know how I can change the functions on the buttons on my Wacom tablet's pen stylus?  Right now the Right Click function is on the wrong button for my liking
[22:57] <bidget> amitprakash: well I should be able to, hold on I will start steam up and tell you what the error is
[22:58] <hugo> anyone knows which package includes makeinfo ?
[22:58] <blakis21> I need help adding more resolution options... I'm a Newbie
[22:58] <IdleOne> build-essential
[22:58] <hugo> tks
[22:58] <amitprakash> blakis21, card and driver?
[22:58] <danbhfive> CorbinFox: somewhat random guess, try an .Xmodmap file
[22:59] <Lainy> Hello, does anyone know if there's a way to make aterm half-transparent? I know there's a transparency option, but just makes it fully transparent. I want to be able to set its alpha. Thanks.
[22:59] <_daniel_> Seveas, Look http://rafb.net/p/Pa5hUW81.html
[22:59] <blakis21> amitprakash its an old all in wonder in an old hp
[22:59] <_daniel_> It clearly changed the permissions
[22:59] <bidget> amitprakash: ok well first of all when i try and start hl2 and window pops up saying my video driver appears to be out of date and could cause problems... "Driver details: Windows Version: Windows Vista, Description: Direct3D HAL, Version: 7.15.10.16921"
[22:59] <CorbinFox> danbhfive: and what would that be and how would i do it?
[22:59] <bidget> amitprakash: but I've got the latest nvidia driver so I'm not sure exactly what the problem is here... :(
[23:00] <amitprakash> bidget, maybe hl2 doesnt have opengl implementation.. what it looks like is its looking for Direct3D latest implementation which i doubt wine has
[23:00] <Chetic> I'm trying to install flash player 9, but it tells me /usr/lib/mozilla isn't a valid installation path
[23:01] <_daniel_> Anyone can tell me how to mount an ext3 by the user and have write permissions ?
[23:01] <gregory> Chetic: try to run the installer as root
[23:01] <bidget> amitprakash: well it SHOULD have opengl... I played all of the old half life 1 games and mods in opengl
[23:01] <Chetic> gregory: I am
[23:01] <meoblast001> how do you adjust the orientation of the title bar on windows?
[23:01] <bidget> amitprakash: but I guess maybe it doesn't.. hmm..
[23:01] <meoblast001> i want it to be on the left
[23:01] <amitprakash> bidget, i did too.. but idk abt hl2
[23:01] <meoblast001> is that possible?
[23:02] <gregory> Chetic: can you adjust the path during setup?
[23:02] <jking_> anyone familiar with a busy general chat channel
[23:02] <Chetic> gregory: adjust it? what do you mean?
[23:02] <gregory> Chetic: give a different path then /usr/lib/mozilla
[23:02] <Chetic> gregory: ah yes, but I don't know what to give it :S
[23:03] <gregory> Chetic: try ~/opt/flash-player. it should offer to create a path if it doesnt exist yet, if i remember correctly
[23:04] <danbhfive> CorbinFox: create a .Xmodmap file in your home directory with a single line: pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20                                    Each number refers to a key.  Swap numbers to change the mappings of your keys.     (This is how my mouse works)
[23:04] <Randocal> Are the items in my places menu dynamically generated? I'm seeing things in there that I didn't put there
[23:04] <ozzloy> what does "bc" stand for?
[23:04] <bidget> ok well amitprakash: this is the error I am getting
[23:05] <bidget> amitprakash: fixme:d3d:IWineD3DCubeTextureImpl_PreLoad Cubetexture (0x28db9378) has been reloaded at least 20 times due to WINED3DSAMP_SRGBTEXTURE changes on it's sampler
[23:05] <ozzloy> in the context of the cli calculator
[23:05] <rand0mbytes> have you tried man bc? :)
[23:06] <amitprakash> bidget, its a fixme :) iirc not implemented feature
[23:06] <ozzloy> yes, have you?
[23:06] <bidget> amitprakash: soo... what does that mean exactly?
[23:06] <ozzloy> if it's in there, i missed it
[23:06] <rand0mbytes> a looong time ago.. heh, lemme check
[23:06] <amitprakash> bidget, means wine doesnt have the feature yet
[23:07] <bidget> amitprakash: awww laaame... I wonder if the newest wine has it, I still have .58 .59 came out a few days ago
[23:07] <rand0mbytes> you're right, doesn't seem to have it
[23:07] <mikubuntu> i can't seem to get my desktop to finish an update.  when i hover over the update icon the msg is: this usually means that your installed packages have unment dependencies.
[23:07] <mikubuntu> if i remember right, this happened during an update to skype.
[23:07] <bidget> amitprakash: it's kinda stupid how wine lists steam as a platinum compatibility even though the games only run at 20fps =\
[23:07] <timothywcrane> how long should a port scan over shared internet connection to shared computer take?
[23:07] <bidget> I gotta go though, thanks for the help dude
[23:07] <Chetic> gregory: nope it won't create a directory and when I do for it it says it's not valid either
[23:08] <Chetic> gregory: it probably just moves the .so file though, maybe I should move it manually to /usr/lib/mozilla
[23:08] <ozzloy> rand0mbytes: apparently it's "basic calculator"
 or big calculator
[23:09] <gregory> Chetic: can you pastebin a log the installer? btw i have the so in ./mozilla/plugins/
[23:10] <Chetic> gregory: Hey I copied it to my .mozilla/plugins and it works great
[23:10] <Chetic> gregory: Thanks a lot for the help
[23:11] <gregory> Chetic: you did by your own ;-)
[23:11] <LollinopiL> holà!
[23:11] <meoblast001> any good VM's that work with ppc ps3?
[23:15] <timothywcrane> what is a broadcast IP?
[23:15] <main_> help anyone been able to compile gnomescan .6 on 7.10
[23:15] <dubby> that is a good question that i wish to know as well
[23:15] <jking_> it is the ip that can speak to the entire network
[23:16] <jking_> generally the last ip in a range
[23:16] <matisse> !autostart
[23:16] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[23:16] <main_> i get a sane not found error even though it's intall
[23:16] <main_> install
[23:16] <jking_> i.e. 192.168.1.255
[23:16] <matisse> !boot
[23:16] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[23:16] <sveakex> can any body give me a good nameserver ip?
[23:16] <dubby> ok anyone, when i turn on ipmasq my internet connection does not work, im using dhcp anyone know why?
[23:17] <jking_> 208.67.222.222
[23:17] <jking_> that is opendns
[23:17] <RoAkSoAx> timothywcrane, a Broadcast IP is the ip used  by one computer to sent a message to all the other computers on the local network for various reasons.
[23:17] <sveakex> jking_: to me? thx
[23:17] <D3RGPS31> is there a codec pack for linux like there is for windows? (K-Light Mega Codec Pack)
[23:17] <jking_> yep
[23:17] <jking_> that was to sveakex
[23:17] <D3RGPS31> i know <.<
[23:18] <timothywcrane> for local network use only then. I am having a network throttle somewhere and have to take this whole thing apart. ;(
[23:18] <Starnestommy> D3RGPS31: try the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[23:18] <zcat[1]> D3RGPS31: install ubuntu-restricted-extras, you'll get all available codecs, windows fonts, flash, java, and a few other things I can't even recall..
[23:18] <jking_> vlc will display most video codecs
[23:18] <D3RGPS31> Starnestommy, zcat[1]: thanks =D
[23:19] <main_> -- help anyone been able to compile gnome scan .6 on 7.10 or .52 for that matter both won't compile
[23:19] <timothywcrane> on my ehternet device I have over 100 transmission errors. That is way high?
[23:19] <zcat[1]> can't remember what the codec packages is called, but yes, there are several (free, non-free, buggy, etc.. gstreamer-something )
[23:19] <timothywcrane> and one receiving eror
[23:19] <IdleOne> main what error you getting?
[23:19] <IdleOne> main_: ^^
[23:20] <timothywcrane> or could they just be torrent traffic disconnects/
[23:20] <main_> sane not found
[23:20] <IdleOne> so install sane
[23:21] <main_> right at the end of ./configure
[23:21] <main_> it is
[23:21] <main_> that why i don't understand why it doesn't see it
[23:21] <matisse> does it make sense to have all the powersaving tool for laptops running on my desktop pc ?
[23:21] <globe> is there a way to redirect all the echo output from a script to a file (without modifying each and every echo statement to add a >> file.out)?
[23:21] <tyger> how can i search for a folder in my external harddrive? i already tried ctrl f and terminal locate
[23:21] <matisse> I found them in bum (boot up manager)
[23:22] <techbrit> script > file.out  - globe
[23:22] <jking_> locate is no good if it is not updated with the updatedb command
[23:22] <IdleOne> !info gnomescan | main_
[23:22] <ubotu> main_: gnomescan (source: gnomescan): Gnome Scan Infrastructure. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 11 kB, installed size 56 kB
[23:22] <matisse> !power
[23:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:22] <jking_> especially for external drives
[23:22] <matisse> !powermanagement
[23:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powermanagement - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:22] <matisse> !laptop
[23:22] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[23:22] <cyth> just tried installing ubuntu server
[23:23] <cyth> and I get nothing on my screen but the word "Grub" and a blinking cursor
[23:23] <dtolj> whats gnomescan? scanning sofware?
[23:23] <globe> techbrit: right.  Thanks.  How about for a script being run from cron?  Can I put the redirect in the crontab?
[23:23] <dtolj> cyth: usually means grub was misconfigured
[23:23] <IdleOne> main_: sudo apt-get install gnomescan should do it no need to compile. always look for packages before compiling
[23:23] <main_> ubotu  i have .4.1 unstalled but when scanning it keep repeating the scan over and over
[23:23] <cyth> dtolj, damn the installer didn't even give me a chance to configure it :p
[23:23] <main_> i'm try .6 but it is not in the repo
[23:24] <dtolj> cyth: really, how strange
[23:24] <techbrit> would have thought so globe
[23:24] <dtolj> cyth: try again it must be there
[23:24] <dtolj> cyth: i have installed it too in the past
[23:24] <tyger> how can i search for a folder in a external hard drive?
[23:24] <main_> there is a possible bug in .41 and i can't find any .conf file for it to just scan on item
[23:25] <globe> techbrit: I thought so too, but it didnt seem to work.  Is there a command to redirect all stdout to a file, which could then be undone at the end of the script?
[23:25] <IdleOne> main_: report a bug to launchpad.net package name is gnomescan
[23:25] <main_> gnome-scan has not been update in the repo for a very long time
[23:25] <CorbinFox> Does anyone here know how I can change the functions on the buttons on my Wacom tablet's pen stylus?  Right now the Right Click function is on the wrong button for my liking.
[23:25] <Max007> hi
[23:25] <jking_> !gnome-scan
[23:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-scan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:26] <main_> thanks will try that ubotu
[23:26] <IdleOne> jking_: gnomescan
[23:26] <Max007> does anyone knows if there's a fix for the xserver-xgl race condition in hardy heron ?
[23:26] <jking_> ah i knew there was something wrong
[23:26] <jking_> !gnomescan
[23:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomescan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:26] <jking_> lol
[23:26] <Pelo> jking_, do you mean xane ?
[23:26] <IdleOne> !info gnomescan | jking_
[23:26] <cyth> dtolj, do you know (or anyone know for that  matter) you have to do anyhing special if your using hardware RAID 1?
[23:26] <ubotu> jking_: gnomescan (source: gnomescan): Gnome Scan Infrastructure. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 11 kB, installed size 56 kB
[23:27] <cyth> becaue when i installed it gave me 2 disks instead of one... thought that was odd
[23:27] <IdleOne> main_: try xsane
[23:27] <azmodie> hi all, can anyone direct me to where i might find out why all my net inteface suddenly stoped routing traffic. connect wirelessly or with cable but cant ping anything. running hardy upgraded from gutsy.
[23:27] <IdleOne> Pelo: :)
[23:27] <trasher80> anyone know this problem sudo unable to resolve host jaka-laptop?
[23:27] <dtolj> cyth: there is a RAID setup menu in the installer
[23:27]  * Pelo is bored again , so bored he wants to try to modify his grub to look like suse's 
[23:28]  * Pelo waves to IdleOne 
[23:28] <puppetmaster> #linuxac
[23:29] <martiini> someone help me with broadcom b43 module ... after  dist-upgrade my broadcom wireless doesnt work with latest kerne
[23:29] <main_> i did xsane is a little to much for the user i'm trying to setup with.. total newbie trying to use kiss principle
[23:29] <Pelo> martiini, ask in #ubuntu+1
[23:29] <keithclark>  Hi everyone!  I was in the middle of an upgrade when my laptop overheated and shutdown.  Now it only boots to a black screen and nothing else.  Any ideas on how to fix other than reinstall 7.10 and start the whole upgrade process over again?  I know this is a Ubuntu+1 problem, kind of, but I was hoping that someone here would have some recovery tips.
[23:29] <deck1> à åñòü ðóññêîÿçû÷íûå ïîëüçîâàòåëè ?
[23:29] <Pelo> !ru | deck1
[23:29] <ubotu> deck1: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[23:30] <user_1> IRCshell
[23:30] <amenado> martini you upgraded to hardy?
[23:30]  * Pelo upgraded to hardy cause he was bored,  boredom is the root of all evil 
[23:30] <azmodie> martiini: have u tryed "sudo apt-get purge b43-fwcutter" then "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter"
[23:30] <IdleOne> Pelo: I tried using http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=679374 ( changing background auto ) but it did not work
[23:30] <globe> keithclark: instead of reinstalling and then upgrading, why not just install the new version?
[23:31] <CorbinFox> Does anyone here know how I can change the functions on the buttons on my Wacom tablet's pen stylus?  Right now the Right Click function is on the wrong button for my liking.
[23:31] <spork969> is there a way to remove the DRM from m4p files?
[23:31] <Pelo> IdleOne, what for ? for the nasa image stuff ?
[23:31] <keithclark> globe, I've not downloaded it yet and I don't have a spare CD
[23:31] <Pelo> spork969, NO
[23:31] <Chetic> is it possible to install .cpkg files?
[23:31] <IdleOne> Pelo: yeah
[23:31] <user_1> mmm... yes don't use DRMed crap
[23:31] <spork969> pelo, ugh...
[23:31] <globe> keithclark: even if you spend an hour downloading it, you would probably save some time
[23:31] <Pelo> spork969, sorry for the caps
[23:32] <spork969> user_1, a little late for that, i have about 75 bucks worth of music from itunes store that i bought when i had windows
[23:32] <rethinker> I have a separate home partition, and lately it keeps getting filled up. So, I completely delete a few things, like old .iso's, freeing up about 1GB of space. Within 10 minutes, all that space disappears. *I*'m not running anything that's doing it. Any ideas what could be the cause?
[23:32] <keithclark> globe, understood.  I just don't have a spare CD.  I will look harder I guess.
[23:32] <Pelo> spork969, can you actualy read the files ?
[23:32] <spork969> spork969, no problem, a little emphasis never HURTS
[23:32] <IdleOne> spork969: that would be illegal anyway and we cannot provide support for that
[23:32] <keithclark> globe, I have /home backed up and that is all I should need, right?
[23:32] <spork969> IdleOne, DRM is killing music, but i understand
[23:32] <chrols> Anybody here got any experience with running Xiinx Webpack on Ubuntu?
[23:33] <Pelo> spork969, you can try converting them with soundconverter , I don'T know if a change for format might help
[23:33] <spork969> Pelo, i can sync them with my ipod using banshee, i just can't play them using banshee or songbird or anything
[23:33] <IdleOne> spork969: I did not say it was right or wrong just said it is illegal ( as per current laws )
[23:33] <globe> keithclark: I've been in that spot (dead upgrade) and though its probably do-able to resume the upgrade and fix everything, it is probably quicker to just reinstall
[23:33] <rethinker> I think it might be trakcerd, since this happens whenever its running a lot, like 25% of the CPU
[23:33] <cyth> ioctl hmm can't find it :<
[23:33] <spork969> IdleOne, i understand. you guys dont want to be held responsible
[23:33] <keithclark> globe, got you.  Experience is a wonderful thing to learn from!
[23:34] <D3RGPS31> How do i convert people from windows to ubuntu >.>
[23:34] <globe> keithclark: theoretically, yes.  You might loose config changes (any custom graphics setups, etc), but most of your files should have been in /home ;-) (unless you are *that* type of person .... )
[23:34] <chrols> Show off compiz, that's popular
[23:34] <IndyGunFreak> D3RGPS31: a big hammer
[23:34] <Pelo> IdleOne, have you tried, this,  find an app that changes the wallpaper from a selection in a folder,  and then , make that folder a link to the nasa webpage folder with the images in them
[23:34] <D3RGPS31> really >.<
[23:34] <spork969> Pelo, thanks, ill try soundconvertor
[23:35] <MaxGQC> does anyone knows if there's a way to fix race condition in xserver-xgl startup process under hardy heron ?
[23:35] <spork969> I accept all responsibility for any laws this may or may not break
[23:35] <Pelo> D3RGPS31, the next time they call you in to fix their comp,  just install ubuntu and donT' tell them , if they ask just tell them it's the new windows theme
[23:35] <IdleOne> Pelo: hmmm have not tried that but....
[23:35] <keithclark> globe, nope I am a purist I guess.  Everything saved under the /home directory.
[23:35] <globe> D3RGPS31: yes, show off compiz...people go head over heels watching some game played on a rotating cube ;-)
[23:35] <Pelo> IdleOne,  no buts, just do it
[23:35] <Steelapple> hello 2 all
[23:35] <IdleOne> haha k
[23:35] <larry> is unbuntu 7.10 the latest version
[23:36] <chrols> D3RGPS31, Better yet, install a Windows theme and they'll never notice =P
[23:36] <user_1> lastest stable
[23:36] <user_1> oops
[23:36] <Pelo> larry,  7.10 is the current official
[23:36] <D3RGPS31> xD
[23:36] <larry> kool thanks
[23:36] <Steelapple> can any body help me to set up wifi on Server Ubuntu ?
[23:36] <globe> keithclark: and arent you glad...:-D
[23:36] <Pelo> !wifi | Steelapple
[23:36] <ubotu> Steelapple: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:36] <Steelapple> thx i'll see
[23:37] <benobo> some (relative) newbie advice on sound please?
[23:37]  * Pelo wouldn'T recognise a wireless network if he triped across it 
[23:37] <Pelo> benobo, some decent quesitons woud be apreciated
[23:37] <benobo> use vlc and sound works but then won't work on firefox
[23:37]  * Pelo 's typing sucks tonight
[23:38] <benobo> and vice versa unless i logout and in again
[23:38] <globe> techbrit: thanks again...I had some sort of typo in my crontab.  Its as you would expect ;-)
[23:38] <spork969> Pelo, soundconvertor can't recognize m4p files...
[23:38] <Pelo> benobo, menu > system> prefs > sounds, make sure the correct device is selected for all
[23:38] <Pelo> spork969, realy ?
[23:38] <Pelo> spork969, m4p is audio right ? not video
[23:39] <rethinker> Where does trackerd keep the index files?
[23:39] <techbrit> gd gd globe ~ thought it should be but i don't crontab much these days
[23:39] <spork969> Pelo, m4p is the protected version of m4a, an audio format
[23:39] <Pelo> spork969, do you have all the gstreamer0.10 packages installed ?
[23:39] <spork969> Pelo, mp4, on the other hand, is video
[23:39] <Odd-rationale> spork969: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652843
[23:39] <spork969> Pelo, I believe so...
[23:39] <benobo> ta, i'll give it a whirl
[23:39] <rethinker> nevermind: ~/.cache
[23:39] <Pelo> spork969, I had it condfused with m4a , but ok
[23:39] <IdleOne> Pelo: ok how would I make the Pictures folder a link to http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html ?
[23:40] <Pelo> IdleOne, try making a symlink to the url ,   sudo ln -s http:\\whatever  /home/idleone/nasa
[23:40] <Pelo> IdleOne, no garanties
[23:41] <user_1> lol
[23:41] <alex-weej> is there such a thing as "GPU load", and if so, is there some way to monitor it other than by its temperature?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> Pelo, That would be insane if it worked :)
[23:41] <Orbixx> Trying to netboot Ubuntu, laptop gets IP address, but no boot filename received.
[23:41] <Orbixx> Path is correct.
[23:41] <Pelo> IdleOne, you can also try the connect to sever in the places menu
[23:43] <Jordan_U> Pelo, Not sure what you are trying to do but httpfs might be something to look into
[23:44] <freebird> Orbixx: been a long time since I did netboot, looks like you are having tftp problem if you are getting ip address?
[23:44] <amenado> Orbixx can you paste your config files for passing tftp to the pxeboot?
[23:44] <alex-weej> Pelo: that's not gonna work, HTTP resources can't normally act as directories unless you're using DAV on the server
[23:44] <Pelo> Jordan_U, not me , idleone wants to grab imageoftheday from nasa.com and use them as his wallpaper,  automaticaly changing
[23:44] <daviemylla> oi gente
[23:44] <Pelo> alex-weej, tell IdleOne
[23:44] <alex-weej> Pelo: definitely not gonna work.
[23:44] <alex-weej> IdleOne: ^^
[23:45] <daviemylla> alguem do brasil
[23:45] <Orbixx> It's Tftpd32, by the way guys.
[23:45] <Orbixx> It's gonna boot from a Windows machine.
[23:45] <Jordan_U> IdleOne, Is the URL the same every day?
[23:45] <daviemylla> quero saber um site para baixar jogos para o linux
[23:45] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: according to this script it is http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
[23:45] <Pelo> !es | daviemylla
[23:45] <ubotu> daviemylla: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:46] <xtknight> IdleOne,  you can use a gconf-editor command to set the wallpaper
[23:46] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: used this script http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=679374
[23:46] <nebri> Hey gang, heres an interesting one. I just recently formatted my compy (hard drive became a giant mess). before the format I was able to burn dvds at 16x. Now all I can get is 8x with K3B. Any ideas?
[23:46] <IdleOne> xtknight:  will use whatever will get it to do what I want :)
[23:46] <amenado> Orbixx-> also maybe you can paste your dhcp server configs..the files you would pass to the pxe client?
[23:46] <xtknight> IdleOne, ya that script looks right
[23:46] <Gary_inNYC> what do i need to upgrade on my system so it responds more to mouse scrolls?  i find that i get delayed runny video in Nautilus and in Firefox
[23:47] <Steelapple> how to edit a file in Server Ubuntu? What programm i can use?
[23:47] <Orbixx> amenado: http://pastebin.com/m38b55fde
[23:47] <Orbixx> Steelapple: vi
[23:47] <xtknight> Steelapple, nano
[23:47] <Jordan_U> Steelapple, nano or vi
[23:47] <unop> IdleOne, i don't understand, does the script not work anymore?
[23:47] <Steelapple> thx
[23:47] <nebri> Steelapple: theres a bunch. vi and nano is installed by default
[23:47] <alex-weej> vi and nano can suck my balls
[23:48] <IdleOne> unop: it did not work at all for me
[23:48] <alex-weej> apt-get install gedit
[23:48] <alex-weej> and ssh -X myserver
[23:48] <user_1> Gary_inNYC: dri
[23:48] <Pelo> can someone trigger the flood bot , I just want to see if my ignore works properly
[23:48] <Gary_inNYC> dri?
[23:48] <IdleOne> trigger
[23:48] <IdleOne> trigger
[23:48] <IdleOne> trigger
[23:48] <IdleOne> trigger
[23:48] <FloodBot1> IdleOne: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 I found vi did some strange keyboard stuff in ubuntu server, nano will probably be asier
[23:48] <Pelo> damit
[23:48] <user_1> check if direct rendering is active with glxinfo
[23:48] <wicked_> i am trying to get my openbsd machine to route internet to ethernet so basically turn it into a  router... but the route command is so different then on linux
[23:49] <IdleOne> Pelo: :p
[23:49] <Gary_inNYC> k i'll check
[23:49] <wicked_> oops
[23:49] <Pelo> IdleOne, thatnks
[23:49] <Pelo> didn't work
[23:49] <omar> yo in my gnome desktop im missing the shutdown option any idea anyone?
[23:49]  * Pelo finds the mask for /ignore difficult
[23:50] <Jordan_U> omar, Are you logging in via GDM or startx ?
[23:50] <alex-weej> omar: are you using GDM?
[23:50] <omar> well actually I have kubuntu installed but Im logging in on GDM
[23:51] <alex-weej> omar: are you sure it's GDM and not KDM?
[23:51] <Gary_inNYC> k, i just did glxinfo | grep direct and i get Yes
[23:51] <omar> yes my desktop is gnome so it must be gdm
[23:51] <alex-weej> omar: that's not true, you can log in to GNOME via KDM
[23:52] <tarkus> how can i check if certain packages are installed?
[23:52] <omar> oh sorry then, im kinda new to ubuntu
[23:52] <omar> how do I check?
[23:52] <tarkus> (mysql, php, apache, etc..)
[23:52] <keithclark> globe, yes, sometimes it pays to follow the rules
[23:52] <tarkus> im jus trying to get a functional amp stack
[23:52] <Gary_inNYC> direct rendering is active...
[23:52] <user_1> do you have many hardware peripherals?
[23:52] <hylinux> hi, anybody had been used the external storage device on ubuntu? I have a external hard disk box, I put a 3.5 ide hard disk into this USB 2.0 disk box. but I have a some issue.
[23:52] <user_1> pci cards etc
[23:52] <amenado> Orbixx-> i dont see from that config file that you are passing any files to the pxe client
[23:52] <linkinxp> tarkus:  synaptic package manager?
[23:52] <CorbinFox> Does anyone here know how I can change the functions on the buttons on my Wacom tablet's pen stylus?  Right now the Right Click function is on the wrong button for my liking
[23:52] <hylinux> I found ubuntu can't mount it like a flash disk
[23:52] <stefg> omar: ls /etc/init.d/*dm gives waht?
[23:53] <hylinux> I had check the "dmesg"
[23:53] <alex-weej> is *dm managed by debian alternatives? or is there some other mechanism for choosing a DM?
[23:53] <Gary_inNYC> no, my external harddrive is not connected, neither is my mp3 player... just the mouse, keyboard, and monitor
[23:53] <tarkus> linkinxp: lol yeah, but like in cli?
[23:53] <hylinux> it said:[  196.727912] usb 2-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[23:53] <Jordan_U> alex-weej, Yes ( debian alternatives )
[23:53] <stefg> alex-weej: debian alternatives IMHO
[23:53] <omar> it gives: /etc/init.d/gdm  /etc/init.d/kdm
[23:53] <hylinux> [  196.785888] usb 2-6: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[23:53] <Lainy> Hello, is there a reason why aterm colors are duller than those in gnome-terminal? I have them side-by-side and the colors in aterm are just different. I have disabled tinting, shading etc. Thanks.
[23:54] <alex-weej> omar: "pidof gdm"
[23:54] <hylinux> [  201.534896] usb 2-6: USB disconnect, address 4
[23:54] <Gary_inNYC> i don't use any pci card peripherals.  just my onboard audio, usb bus, and my agp Fx5200 video
[23:54] <alex-weej> omar: if it's running, it'll give you a number
[23:54] <hylinux> scsi 4:0:0:0: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery
[23:54] <omar> nope didnt give me anything, so that is the problem then?
[23:54] <alex-weej> omar: yes. you're running kdm.
[23:54] <omar> ok so how do I switch?
[23:54] <user_1> by the way you should check also that you have something called APIC enabled
[23:54] <alex-weej> Jordan_U, omar: ?
[23:55] <user_1> dmesg | grep APIC
[23:55] <freezerburn> sup y'all!
[23:55] <_boikhutso_> network distance 1 hop, what is this?
[23:55] <omar> btw is this called session switching?
[23:55] <alex-weej> omar: no
[23:55] <hylinux> who have the experiences on ubuntu use hard disk box?
[23:55] <alex-weej> omar: this is called getting rid of that KDE shit
[23:55] <amenado> _boikhutso_-> what is the issue?
[23:56] <omar> oh ok so any idea how I can do that?
[23:56] <jussi01> !ohmy | alex-weej
[23:56] <ubotu> alex-weej: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:56] <alex-weej> d'oh :P
[23:56] <Gary_inNYC> ok, what line should i be looking for with the grep APIC command?
[23:56] <alex-weej> omar: install "galternatives"
[23:56] <alex-weej> omar: it's a nice tool for looking at the "Alternatives" system in Debian
[23:56] <omar> alright thanks man
[23:56] <_boikhutso_> amenado: i was scanning a network with nmap, just wanna know what 1 hop means
[23:56] <user_1> did it returned something?
[23:57] <Gary_inNYC> yeah a series of lines
[23:57] <alex-weej> omar: basically when 2 packages provide the same function for some feature, whether it be a flash plugin (Adobe/Gnash/Swfdec) or a login manager (kdm/gdm/xdm/etc.), you can configure it with Alternatives
[23:57] <Gary_inNYC> [    0.000000] ACPI: APIC 5FFFC058, 005A (r1 ASUS   P4S800   42302E31 MSFT 31313031)
[23:57] <Gary_inNYC> [    0.000000] ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000
[23:57] <Gary_inNYC> [    0.000000] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
[23:57] <Gary_inNYC> [    0.000000] Processor #0 15:2 APIC version 20
[23:57] <Gary_inNYC> [    0.000000] ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] high edge lint[0x1])
[23:57] <FloodBot1> Gary_inNYC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <Gary_inNYC> [    0.000000] ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec00000] gsi_base[0])
[23:57] <user_1> ouch
[23:57] <alex-weej> omar: you will have to look down the list to find the DM and switch it over
[23:57] <freebird> 1 hop means packet passed through 1 router
[23:57] <nous> hi all
[23:57] <amenado> _boikhutso_-> you are scanning someone? or your network? have you done any tutorials on tcp/ip basics?
[23:57] <user_1> I didnt ask him to put the entire output
[23:57] <alex-weej> omar: when you find it, let me know what name it's listed as because i'm wondering myself!
[23:58] <Gary_inNYC> dang my fault forgot about that rule
[23:58] <omar> so basically all I have to do is switch the DM from KDM to GDM right?
[23:58] <Gary_inNYC> sry forgot about that rule
[23:58] <_boikhutso_> amenado: well i scanned a network first, then someone yes, no i haven't
[23:58] <lokpest> hi, anyone has sugestions on compiling a video out of 1 picture and one mp3
[23:58] <lokpest> program/onlineservice
[23:58] <alex-weej> omar: i think it might be default-x-display-manager
[23:58] <freezerburn> I wonder if anyone can help me with my youtube experience.  I've installed some kind of flash on my ps3 with ubuntu.  I can watch youtube videos but can't see the bottom bar that handles where in the video I am and some buttons are on top of eachother.  Has anyone experienced this?
[23:59] <Gary_inNYC> I'll use pastebin next time
[23:59] <alex-weej> freezerburn: you probably installed Gnash
[23:59] <alex-weej> freezerburn: needless to say, Adobe doesn't have a flash player for PPC/Cell yet
[23:59] <amenado> _boikhutso_-> i think it is a good idea for you to do a tutorial on basics of tcp/ip so at least you'd understand the meanings of the data collected or spewed out by nmap
[23:59] <Lainy> n [~Wickedclo@Clown.in.the.K.Town] has quit [Quit: Teh  Wickedcown has left the building...]
[23:59] <nous>  got a question : I've got some folders in my home that are on separates partitions (like /home/me/Music and /home/me/Videos) and gnome display somes icons like "90GB Media" for trhes partitions on my desktop
[23:59] <Lainy> 17:43 ::: mode/#help [+l 87] by Sugiura_Midori
[23:59] <alex-weej> freezerburn: you could try swfdec and see if that makes it any better
[23:59] <alex-weej> freezerburn: but try filing bugs to help :)