| JontheEchidna | Good evening | 00:29 |
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| JontheEchidna | or whatever time of day or night you happen to be in | 00:29 |
| Left_brasil | hey all | 00:35 |
| Left_brasil | any 1 in there? | 00:35 |
| Left_brasil | hey | 00:41 |
| Left_brasil | all are devel? | 00:41 |
| Left_Brasil | hi all | 00:52 |
| Left_Brasil | anyone know how i ca get up aixgl?? | 00:53 |
| n8k99 | !eclipse | 03:10 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 03:10 |
| === nareshov_ is now known as nareshov | ||
| yao_ziyuan | kubuntu could be a dead distro if you guys don't revert the default wallpaper, style and window decoration to that of alpha 6 | 04:23 |
| === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed | ||
| stdin | well, we can all stop what we're doing, it seems the secret to a successful distro is nothing like what we thought, it's all down to wallpaper, style and window decoration apparently :| | 05:11 |
| yuriy | maybe he's stuck on purple unicorn and fuzzy bunnies? | 05:14 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: morning | 07:18 |
| eagles0513875 | wtf was yao been smoking | 07:19 |
| eagles0513875 | anybody alive in here i have a question regarding a bug im working on | 07:35 |
| === santiago-php is now known as santiago-ve | ||
| === Hobbsee is now known as shinymonster | ||
| === shinymonster is now known as Hobbsee | ||
| eagles0513875 | anybody alive in here | 08:01 |
| * stdin checks his pulse | 08:02 | |
| stdin | apparently I'm still alive | 08:02 |
| * Hobbsee dies | 08:02 | |
| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: :( | 08:05 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 08:05 |
| eagles0513875 | maybe u can help me fix this bug | 08:05 |
| eagles0513875 | since im new to the world of bug fixing in kubuntu | 08:05 |
| eagles0513875 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/216529 | 08:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216529 in kdebase "kdebase-bin depends kdebase-bin-kde3 OR kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" [High,Triaged] | 08:06 |
| eagles0513875 | basically what i need to do with this is removed the kde-bin-kde3 dependency | 08:07 |
| eagles0513875 | and leave the kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 | 08:07 |
| stdin | what's the problem? | 08:08 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger found this last night and i just wanna make sure i understand what im doing so what i need to do is to remove the dependency on the kdebase-bin of kde3 right | 08:09 |
| stdin | from the report: "therefore the dependency should be _only_ kdebase-bin-kde3" | 08:09 |
| eagles0513875 | so then remove the kde4 dependency | 08:09 |
| stdin | that's the way I read it | 08:10 |
| eagles0513875 | ill wait till he gets on i did just file another bug which i can probably take a stab at in the mean time | 08:10 |
| eagles0513875 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kopete/+bug/216665 | 08:10 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216665 in kopete "kopete displays all my msn contacts as being offline using kde4" [Undecided,New] | 08:10 |
| stdin | so what you need to do is remove any dependencies of -kde4 in there | 08:10 |
| eagles0513875 | for some reason i dunno y kde4 likes to display all my msn contacts as offline | 08:11 |
| eagles0513875 | ok goign to start figuring that out | 08:11 |
| eagles0513875 | stdin: where exactly in the kdebase should i look | 08:20 |
| stdin | in debian/control, just search all the Depends: lines | 08:21 |
| stdin | (should only be on the "Package: kdebase-bin" section though) | 08:21 |
| eagles0513875 | not finding it though | 08:22 |
| stdin | did you make sure to download the hardy version? (Version: 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu6) | 08:23 |
| eagles0513875 | i did sudo apt-get source and got the source | 08:23 |
| stdin | what version did it get then? | 08:24 |
| eagles0513875 | how do i check | 08:24 |
| eagles0513875 | thename says 3.5.9 | 08:24 |
| stdin | look at the .dsc file name | 08:24 |
| stdin | should be kdebase_3.5.9-0ubuntu6.dsc | 08:25 |
| eagles0513875 | not finding where it says that | 08:27 |
| stdin | in the directory you ran apt-get source from | 08:28 |
| eagles0513875 | cli | 08:28 |
| stdin | cli? | 08:28 |
| eagles0513875 | nm i just got what ur saying | 08:28 |
| Hobbsee | the dependancy should be kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 | 08:30 |
| Hobbsee | 4 C&R's 3. | 08:30 |
| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: so we keep kde4 get rid of 3 | 08:30 |
| Hobbsee | yeha | 08:31 |
| eagles0513875 | still somewhat confused as to checking which version of the source i got lol | 08:32 |
| eagles0513875 | stdin: if i have hardy on this machine wouldnt i be downloading the hardy source by default | 08:34 |
| stdin | should do, yeah | 08:34 |
| DarkMageZ | does anyone maintain a repository for kde 4 trunk? | 08:34 |
| Hobbsee | then again, what does this mean for kde3 users? | 08:34 |
| stdin | not that I know of DarkMageZ | 08:34 |
| eagles0513875 | not to go digging through files woot | 08:35 |
| eagles0513875 | the dependencies that im looking for would those be in the config files | 08:36 |
| stdin | no, it'd be in debian/control | 08:36 |
| eagles0513875 | there isnt a debian/control folder here | 08:37 |
| stdin | in the source directory | 08:37 |
| eagles0513875 | there is everything but a source directory | 08:37 |
| stdin | kdebase-3.5.9/debian/control <- it's a file | 08:38 |
| eagles0513875 | gotcha | 08:38 |
| * Hobbsee isn't sure that is actually right | 08:38 | |
| eagles0513875 | than again im still not finding it | 08:38 |
| stdin | kdebase-3.5.9/debian/control: line 98: Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, libpam-runtime (>= 0.76-14), kdebase-bin-kde3 | kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 | 08:39 |
| eagles0513875 | so a simple kde3 delete will fix this error | 08:39 |
| eagles0513875 | i must have gotten the wrong source cuz even with a find its not working | 08:40 |
| eagles0513875 | what subdirectory is it under | 08:40 |
| stdin | where you ran apt-get source you should have files: kdebase_3.5.9-0ubuntu6.diff.gz, kdebase_3.5.9-0ubuntu6.dsc and kdebase_3.5.9.orig.tar.gz and one directory: kdebase-3.5.9 | 08:41 |
| eagles0513875 | stdin: i i just have the kdebase | 08:41 |
| eagles0513875 | source | 08:41 |
| eagles0513875 | from the orig.tar.gz | 08:41 |
| eagles0513875 | maybe i didnt extract it completely which is most likely the case | 08:42 |
| stdin | apt-get source should have unpacked it for you | 08:42 |
| eagles0513875 | it got an error | 08:42 |
| stdin | remove the dir and do "dpkg-source -x kdebase_3.5.9-0ubuntu6.dsc" | 08:42 |
| stdin | oh, what error? | 08:42 |
| eagles0513875 | im goign to redownload the source and see if it happens again | 08:43 |
| eagles0513875 | whats the source pkgs name i need to download | 08:44 |
| stdin | you just do "apt-get source kdebase" | 08:45 |
| eagles0513875 | its getting it | 08:45 |
| stdin | apt-get source will find the right source package if you give it a binary package name anyway | 08:46 |
| eagles0513875 | internet suxs balls here | 08:47 |
| eagles0513875 | sh: dpkg-source: not found | 08:49 |
| eagles0513875 | Unpack command 'dpkg-source -x kdebase_3.5.9-0ubuntu6.dsc' failed. | 08:49 |
| eagles0513875 | Check if the 'dpkg-dev' package is installed. | 08:49 |
| eagles0513875 | E: Child process failed | 08:49 |
| eagles0513875 | thats the error i get | 08:49 |
| stdin | then you should probably make sure dpkg-dev is installed ;) | 08:49 |
| * Hobbsee would suggest installing build-essentials | 08:49 | |
| eagles0513875 | lol ok i will after this is installed lol im such a noob when it comes to all this | 08:50 |
| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: where do i get build essentials from im doing apt-cache search for it nothings coming up | 08:51 |
| * Hobbsee also advocates reading, and using apt-cache search. | 08:51 | |
| * Hobbsee thirdly advocates using a brain. | 08:51 | |
| fdoving | eagles0513875: it's named build-essential, not essentials. :) | 08:51 |
| stdin | apt-get install build-essential | 08:51 |
| Hobbsee | (saves you looking like an idiot) | 08:51 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 08:52 |
| eagles0513875 | i know bout apt-cache search Hobbsee use it all the time cuz i hate going into the pkg manager | 08:52 |
| Hobbsee | apparently not well enough, because you didn't search for build essential or similar, or didn't see the result. | 08:52 |
| fdoving | if you search for build essentials you won't find anything. | 08:53 |
| fdoving | the "essential" part of that package should be named "essentials" to appear in searches :) | 08:53 |
| Hobbsee | yes, hence the drop the s, and try again. | 08:54 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 08:54 |
| Hobbsee | it's usually good for searching | 08:54 |
| eagles0513875 | they should change it a bit if there is an extra letter like i was doing it should still find the pkgs relating to ur search even if the spelling isnt exact | 08:54 |
| eagles0513875 | no to try downloading the source again | 08:54 |
| fdoving | no, when i search for something i want those matches, not all the 'almost' matches. | 08:55 |
| eagles0513875 | thats true | 08:55 |
| * Hobbsee notes that this might be a really fast way to stop doing kubuntu development. | 08:55 | |
| fdoving | Hobbsee: what? dying? (09:11 * Hobbsee dies | 08:56 |
| fdoving | ) | 08:56 |
| Hobbsee | no. smashing my head against a wall. | 08:57 |
| eagles0513875 | :( | 08:57 |
| eagles0513875 | its all my fault:( | 08:57 |
| * eagles0513875 blames myself | 08:57 | |
| fdoving | eagles0513875: don't. | 08:57 |
| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: dont stop cuz of me lol ill stop before i even get started | 08:58 |
| fdoving | she won't stop, shes addicted :) | 08:58 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: i haven't run hardy kubuntu at all, you know. | 08:58 |
| eagles0513875 | im addicted to kubuntu thats y ive decided to help out | 08:58 |
| eagles0513875 | im running the 64bit version of it with kde4 and compiz | 08:58 |
| fdoving | Hobbsee: it's caused me nothing but trubbel so far, so i'd wait as long as possible. | 08:59 |
| eagles0513875 | which i was told wouldnt work lol | 08:59 |
| eagles0513875 | fdoving: u using the beta | 08:59 |
| eagles0513875 | stdin: what was the version u said i should have of the source | 08:59 |
| fdoving | eagles0513875: why would you use compiz in kde4? | 08:59 |
| eagles0513875 | fdoving: i dunno lol | 08:59 |
| stdin | 3.5.9-0ubuntu6 | 08:59 |
| eagles0513875 | i was on kde3 then upgraded to kde4 | 08:59 |
| Hobbsee | compiz is nicer than the kde4 equiv | 08:59 |
| eagles0513875 | stdin: i have that | 08:59 |
| Hobbsee | fdoving: oh, i lie. i have tried, but haven't tried seriously in a while. | 08:59 |
| eagles0513875 | lol in a way though kde 4 is implying that alot of people who use it must be blind with the size of the icons lol | 09:00 |
| fdoving | might be true that compiz got more (useless?) bling-bling. | 09:00 |
| fdoving | i find the kwin-desktop-effects just fine, and i even disable most of them because they are annoying. | 09:00 |
| * Hobbsee likes compiz bling. it actually seems to work more nicely than the original bling | 09:01 | |
| Hobbsee | well, i find the kde versions to be a lot more kludgy | 09:01 |
| eagles0513875 | i got so much compiz bling on here i go nuts sometimes | 09:01 |
| eagles0513875 | so now i have to deleted the kde3 dependency right | 09:01 |
| stdin | btw, you'll need to install devscripts to run debuild and debdiff | 09:01 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 09:03 |
| CheGuevara | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2008-April/011020.html | 09:04 |
| CheGuevara | pitti sounds pretty angry :P | 09:04 |
| stdin | now you need to make a changelog entry saying what you did | 09:04 |
| eagles0513875 | i guess i go look at the wiki for that | 09:04 |
| Hobbsee | who uploaded that? | 09:05 |
| Hobbsee | awen. hm. | 09:05 |
| fdoving | CheGuevara: hah, nice one. pretty cool to decide to break teh api this late in the cycle :) | 09:06 |
| CheGuevara | yep lol | 09:06 |
| fdoving | sabotage :) | 09:06 |
| eagles0513875 | !changelog | 09:06 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 09:06 |
| eagles0513875 | any links on how to do changelogs | 09:07 |
| fdoving | dch -i | 09:07 |
| fdoving | is what you want. | 09:08 |
| stdin | does that need DEBMAIL and DEBFULLNAME set? | 09:08 |
| fdoving | eagles0513875: i don't understand the bugreport. bug 216529 | 09:08 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216529 in kdebase "kdebase-bin depends kdebase-bin-kde3 OR kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216529 | 09:08 |
| fdoving | stdin: doesn't need, but it probably defaults to something wrong. | 09:08 |
| fdoving | which would require manual editing. | 09:08 |
| imbrandon | defaults to user@host iirc | 09:09 |
| eagles0513875 | fdoving: ask apachelogger | 09:09 |
| eagles0513875 | fdoving: thats what im working on right now | 09:09 |
| eagles0513875 | i found the changelog but its not writale | 09:09 |
| eagles0513875 | do i create a new one | 09:10 |
| imbrandon | eagles0513875: sounds like you need to slow up a bit and do a bit-o-reading in the Maintainers Guide | 09:10 |
| imbrandon | no dont create a new one, fix the permissions and edit that one | 09:10 |
| fdoving | but you probably want to understand the bug before fixing it. | 09:10 |
| imbrandon | correct | 09:11 |
| fdoving | i'm not entirely sure that bug is a bug. mostly because i don't understand it myself. | 09:11 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger is the one who filed it should i wait till i talk to him | 09:11 |
| fdoving | ok, then i suggest followin imbrandons advice in the meantime, reading the maintainers guide. | 09:12 |
| eagles0513875 | if i can find it | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | !maintainersguide | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | !maintainers guide | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | hrm | 09:12 |
| stdin | !packaging | 09:12 |
| ubotu | The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports | 09:12 |
| imbrandon | !package guide | 09:13 |
| fdoving | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide | 09:13 |
| imbrandon | bah, anyhow that first link | 09:13 |
| fdoving | i think. | 09:13 |
| imbrandon | yea | 09:13 |
| eagles0513875 | thanks guys | 09:13 |
| eagles0513875 | thanks for all ur patience | 09:15 |
| eagles0513875 | would it be hand i am noticing some stuff on launchpad to pkgs anything that needs pkging | 09:15 |
| Hobbsee | eagles0513875: dude. read. think. reread. Write sentences that make sense. | 09:17 |
| Hobbsee | eagles0513875: you're a texan. You should be able to write readable english. | 09:17 |
| CheGuevara | lol | 09:17 |
| * Hobbsee head --> desk | 09:17 | |
| Hobbsee | eagles0513875: i told you all of this last time. You didn't learn. | 09:17 |
| eagles0513875 | this keyboard is acting screwy | 09:17 |
| Hobbsee | then get another keyboard. | 09:18 |
| eagles0513875 | lol easier said then done right now. no job no money | 09:18 |
| eagles0513875 | im on my old laptop | 09:18 |
| * Hobbsee notes you still had trouble ~9 months ago, too. | 09:20 | |
| DarkMageZ | Hobbsee, it's that good old american education system :( | 09:20 |
| Hobbsee | DarkMageZ: or malta's. either way. | 09:20 |
| eagles0513875 | lol malta now lol but but mostly the american system since i was born and raised there | 09:21 |
| Hobbsee | so, you have no excuse. | 09:21 |
| Hobbsee | and, again, do you really expect people to take you seriously using aolspeak? | 09:21 |
| eagles0513875 | sry bad habit | 09:22 |
| DarkMageZ | you can't blame the new american generation kids for their spelling. you have to blame the parents & their political representatives. | 09:22 |
| eagles0513875 | feel free to slap me when u notice it awhen anyone does | 09:22 |
| eagles0513875 | when did this channel turn into a political channel | 09:22 |
| * DarkMageZ slaps eagles0513875... it's "feel free to slap me when you notice it, that invitation is open to anyone" | 09:23 | |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 09:24 |
| eagles0513875 | yes it is dark | 09:24 |
| eagles0513875 | just wondering lets say there is an rpm pkg that i would like in the ubuntu repo could i repkg it for debian based systems | 09:26 |
| eagles0513875 | and would it still work | 09:26 |
| fdoving | well, you would need the source. | 09:27 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 09:28 |
| eagles0513875 | lets say there was no source for instance u cant deconstruct an rpm and rpkg it using the debian format | 09:29 |
| fdoving | you can, but you won't ever get it into the ubuntu archives. | 09:29 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 09:31 |
| eagles0513875 | even if its repackaged | 09:31 |
| eagles0513875 | anyway back to reading the pkg guide | 09:32 |
| fdoving | well, packaging is really only done properly from sources. | 09:32 |
| fdoving | there are tools to convert packages, but the result isn't that nice. | 09:33 |
| eagles0513875 | i know bout alien | 09:33 |
| eagles0513875 | and ive used it its yucky | 09:33 |
| eagles0513875 | i just noticed something weird | 09:41 |
| eagles0513875 | there is no mixer icon displaying in kde4 | 09:41 |
| fdoving | then start it. | 09:41 |
| fdoving | kmix | 09:41 |
| fdoving | is the command. | 09:41 |
| eagles0513875 | ty | 09:42 |
| eagles0513875 | now my audio hot keys on this laptop dont work:\ oh well | 09:42 |
| fdoving | that's known. | 09:42 |
| eagles0513875 | they worked on kde3 | 09:42 |
| eagles0513875 | and gutsy and feisty and edgy and my blay stop forward and back keys work | 09:43 |
| === Arby_ is now known as Arby | ||
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: ping | 10:26 |
| eagles0513875 | im back | 12:49 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: u alive dude | 12:50 |
| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: O_o | 12:50 |
| Hobbsee | ? | 12:50 |
| eagles0513875 | im guessing nobody missd me | 12:51 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 12:51 |
| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: has apachelogger been on at all this morning or not yet | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | he hasn't been on. it is a weekend. | 12:53 |
| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: i know i just want to confirm some stuff for that bug i was working on earlier | 12:54 |
| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: is this bug a bug the maintainer has to take a look at or can someone help me out with | 12:56 |
| eagles0513875 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kopete/+bug/216665 | 12:56 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216665 in kopete "kopete displays all my msn contacts as being offline using kde4" [Undecided,New] | 12:56 |
| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: i have a question for you if you are up for it | 13:02 |
| Hobbsee | mmm? | 13:02 |
| Hobbsee | it better not be "have you got a boyfriend?" again | 13:02 |
| eagles0513875 | no where close | 13:02 |
| eagles0513875 | and what made u think i was going to ask that lol | 13:02 |
| eagles0513875 | and 2ndly it has to do with packaging | 13:03 |
| eagles0513875 | im reading through the guide and i found a link to how to setup a chroot environment only problem is that im not finding one for hardy | 13:03 |
| Hobbsee | because you did twice, asked for pictures, and a whole bunch of other crap that i found in my logs. | 13:05 |
| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: that was eons ago ive matured since then | 13:06 |
| Hobbsee | right. | 13:06 |
| eagles0513875 | i have | 13:06 |
| eagles0513875 | if u dont want to answer my question i understand | 13:07 |
| eagles0513875 | does anyonw know where i can find the chroot environment for hardy | 13:08 |
| Artemis_Fowl | The mke2fs comes with which package? | 13:11 |
| Artemis_Fowl | mke2fs command* | 13:11 |
| eagles0513875 | is the chroot environment necessary in regards to developing | 13:13 |
| eagles0513875 | !chroot | 13:27 |
| ubotu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box | 13:27 |
| eagles0513875 | ahhhhhh that answers my own question | 13:27 |
| Hobbsee | Artemis_Fowl: e2fsprogs maybe | 13:55 |
| eagles0513875 | !e2fs | 14:13 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about e2fs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | fdoving: -kde3 and -kde4 have the same files but in different directories, so -kde4 is not an alternative to the -kde3 binaries | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | though currently -kde3 would get removed when installing kde4 on a plain kde3 because it just can do so | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: ahoy | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: about bug 216665 - kopete-kde4 is part of kdenetwork, the kde4 source package would be kdenetwork-kde4 so the bug belongs to that package | 14:36 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216665 in kopete "kopete displays all my msn contacts as being offline using kde4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216665 | 14:36 |
| eagles0513875 | gotcha | 14:38 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: inregard to that other bug u gave me last night what dependency is wrong the kde3 one or the one of ke4 | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | a little bit of practise... | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: try to find out which one ;-) | 14:39 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 14:39 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: hobbsee told me one thing stdin told me another | 14:40 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: u need a chroot environment if ur going to be testing 32bit stuff right | 14:40 |
| eagles0513875 | im not understanding what a chroot environment is for | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | hm | 14:42 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: u gave away the answer in the bug | 14:42 |
| eagles0513875 | !chroot | 14:42 |
| ubotu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | simple description: a chroot is a system in a system :P | 14:42 |
| eagles0513875 | like a vm | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | well, not exactly | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | it access your hardware directly and all | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | for example | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | you have a chroot environment in /var/chroot | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | if you chroot into that directory | 14:43 |
| eagles0513875 | there isnt one for hardy yet | 14:43 |
| Hobbsee | you haven't made one. | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | your bash will suddenly think the stuff within /var/chroot is actually / | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: why would you need a chroot? | 14:43 |
| eagles0513875 | ahhh kool i get ya now | 14:43 |
| eagles0513875 | Hobbsee: no how do i | 14:43 |
| eagles0513875 | the chroot wiki confused the living daylights out of me so i create one for hgutsy or hardy | 14:44 |
| eagles0513875 | *gutsy | 14:44 |
| eagles0513875 | i dont think i need one i was just reading through the pkging guid and it mentions it | 14:45 |
| ryanakca | eagles0513875: if its for packaging, use pbuilder or schroot+sbuild | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: it probably explains why you would need one, I guess :P | 14:45 |
| ryanakca | eagles0513875: if you're using LVM, I'd suggest going for schroot, I can get you the guide for setting one of those up, otherwise, pbuilder is your best bet | 14:46 |
| eagles0513875 | ryanakca: im on a simple laptop | 14:46 |
| eagles0513875 | ryanakca: pbuilder an easier way to go for someone new to pkging | 14:46 |
| ryanakca | !pbuilder | eagles0513875 | 14:46 |
| ubotu | eagles0513875: pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 14:46 |
| eagles0513875 | thanks ryanakca | 14:47 |
| ryanakca | eagles0513875: Somewhat, yes, but if you used LVM when setting up your partitions (If you don't know what LVM is, then you didn't), I would recommend going for schroot. Enjoy :) | 14:48 |
| eagles0513875 | ryanakca: i let kubuntu format during install my entire drive it automatically did them for me | 14:48 |
| eagles0513875 | and lvm is logical volume manager lol | 14:48 |
| ryanakca | eagles0513875: OK, then you aren't using LVM :) | 14:48 |
| ryanakca | lol :) | 14:49 |
| eagles0513875 | ryanakca: lol im taking linux certification course lol | 14:49 |
| eagles0513875 | im a linux nut lol | 14:49 |
| eagles0513875 | linux and kubuntu nut in particular | 14:50 |
| ryanakca | goodies ;) Oh, and if your starting packaging, *realises that he'd get shot in -motu for saying this*, you'll probably want to go the CDBS route... in my /most/ humble opinion, its much simple than going the long rules file with debhelper route. | 14:50 |
| eagles0513875 | ryanakca: ? | 14:51 |
| * apachelogger throws his whole ppa at ryanakca | 14:51 | |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: i have to remove the kde3 bin right | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | you can't properly use cdbs without understanding debhelper | 14:51 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: what makes you come to that conclusion? | 14:52 |
| * ryanakca points out that it was only his most humble opinion, and that following it will most likely get you shot :) | 14:52 | |
| * ryanakca goes back to his homework | 14:53 | |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: says inur bug report | 14:53 |
| eagles0513875 | *your | 14:53 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger: i'm not sure that a lot of people 'understand' debhelper, in general. | 14:54 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: pong | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | Hobbsee: true, still I think one should have a bit of an idea what cdbs is actually doing | 14:58 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: concerning this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuGrubconfig | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: can't find it | 14:58 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: I have seen the blueprints | 14:58 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger: oh sure. i'm just questioning the 'understand' bit | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | Hobbsee: good finding on the replaces/conflicts btw :) | 14:58 |
| Hobbsee | it's like people 'understanding' cdbs | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | :D | 14:58 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger: heh. i did think it was a little strange. | 14:58 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger: so we install kde4-based stuff on kde3 now? | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | no | 14:59 |
| Hobbsee | or is that package only the binaries to be used on both now? | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | the package is just invalid | 14:59 |
| Hobbsee | NBS? | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | the bins are in different paths | 14:59 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: and would like to know if the Save button is preferable to the click-and-save approach | 14:59 |
| apachelogger | so there is no reason anything should conflict | 14:59 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: if you have ever used Q/KGRUBEditor you would know what I mean | 15:00 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: | 15:00 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/216529 | 15:00 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216529 in kdebase-runtime "kdebase-bin depends kdebase-bin-kde3 OR kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" [High,Triaged] | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | i.e. instead of | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | Depends: kdebase-bin-kde3 | kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4, ... | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | Depends kdebase-bin-kde3, ... | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | there is even a typo, oh mon dieu! | 15:01 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: let me look. i havent seen the wireframes in a while | 15:01 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: take your time | 15:01 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: so kde 3 goes bye bye | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: do you understand what I was writing there? | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | guessing is no good practice for bugfixing really | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: btw, I can't reproduce your msn issue | 15:04 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: u on kde4 | 15:04 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger: so if they're not supposed to replace, why are they marked as C&R'ing? | 15:04 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: yes | 15:04 |
| eagles0513875 | on kopete for kde4 | 15:04 |
| eagles0513875 | not the kde3 kopete | 15:04 |
| apachelogger | Hobbsee: so that eagles0513875 can fix something ... I have no idea, maybe this is a left over from the times when we didn't use /usr/lib/kde4 | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: yes | 15:05 |
| eagles0513875 | basically what the bug is saying since they r in different paths there is no need for the kde4 dependency | 15:05 |
| eagles0513875 | interesting | 15:05 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: im an idiot | 15:05 |
| eagles0513875 | i wasnt online | 15:05 |
| * apachelogger headdesks | 15:06 | |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: u create a nother bug | 15:06 |
| eagles0513875 | im used to the old version of it signs u online automatically | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: your probably can configure that | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | please close the kopete bug | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: which other bug? | 15:07 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: what do you mean the click-and-save approach? you mean how if you click away from a page in system settings your prompted to save? | 15:08 |
| eagles0513875 | same bug number u seemed to have posted it to another pkg as well | 15:08 |
| eagles0513875 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/216529 | 15:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216529 in kdebase-runtime "kdebase-bin depends kdebase-bin-kde3 OR kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" [High,Triaged] | 15:09 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: no. once you change the status of a widget (eg a checkbox is checked and you click on it thus rendering it unchecked) the file is immediately updated to reflect the change | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: Hobbsee discovered another part of this issue | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | appearing in kdebase-runtime where -runtime-bin-kde4 replaces/conflicts the kde3 version, which is just as wrong as the alternative dependency in the kdebase-bin | 15:10 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: ah, you mean implicit save | 15:10 |
| eagles0513875 | so basically we r back to square one | 15:11 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: i dont think that is used at all in KDE so i wouldnt recommend doing it for that dialog | 15:11 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: I am no usability expert :) don't know how all these things are named | 15:11 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: i'm not sure if Gnome does stuff like that | 15:11 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: it wouldn't be hard to do | 15:12 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: btw I have a somewhat different approach as compared to the blueprints but I don't think it would be problem | 15:13 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: want some screenshots to tell me ur opinion on what to fix? | 15:13 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: sure. | 15:13 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: k one min | 15:14 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: what would happen if we changed the path and put them in the same path | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: 1) kde4 would break 2) kde3 would break 3) kubuntu would break | 15:15 |
| Hobbsee | ....... | 15:15 |
| * Hobbsee head --> desk. | 15:15 | |
| apachelogger | you can't replace kde3 binaries with kde4 binaries and vice versa | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | that is like replacing windows 98 explorer with the one from vista | 15:16 |
| eagles0513875 | then if ur running 3.5 rnt the kde binaries kinda redundant | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | eh? | 15:17 |
| Hobbsee | ....... | 15:17 |
| eagles0513875 | kde4 binaries i mean | 15:17 |
| * Hobbsee notes that the whole "think before speech" didn't get through to eagles0513875 the first, nor the second time | 15:17 | |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: lemme translate that to a more visible example | 15:18 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: Screenshot #1: The main View. What the user firstly sees. Uses a tree-like view: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1214640_nkgyi/KGRUBEditor22.png | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: you just saied any new unstable version of something is redundant | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | that pretty much means progress is redundant | 15:20 |
| eagles0513875 | what im saying is if ur running 3.5 rnt the kde4 binaries kinda redundant | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | because how can you improve a product when you don't have a reliable base you can work on | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: kinda | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | as much as firefox is redundant when you run konqueror | 15:21 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: how do you see that information? do you select the item? i dont see an expander icon (+) | 15:21 |
| eagles0513875 | thats what i meant before | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | as much as evolution is redundant when you run kmail etc. | 15:21 |
| * ryanakca resists the urge to go '!u | eagles0513875' | 15:21 | |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: there is no redundancy as they are different | 15:21 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: is that just displayed information or can you edit it? | 15:21 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: they do the same but aren't the same | 15:21 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 15:22 |
| eagles0513875 | ryanakca: what that do lol | 15:22 |
| ryanakca | !u | eagles0513875 | 15:22 |
| ubotu | eagles0513875: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun. If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you". The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on.. | 15:22 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: upon selecting the item it expands showing the info. if you reselect it it collapses. if you click empty space all items collapse and selection is cleared | 15:22 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: not editable (yet at least) | 15:22 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: you have to select the item and click edit entry to edit it | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | ryanakca: so as a revu using motu I am probably not taken seriously | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | that explains a lot though :P | 15:23 |
| eagles0513875 | ryanakca: ok thanks for the reminder | 15:23 |
| ryanakca | apachelogger: lol ;) | 15:23 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: reselect it or double click it? there is a difference | 15:23 |
| ryanakca | apachelogger: don't mind me, its just one of my big pet peeves :) | 15:24 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: if selected and clicked it collapses | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | ^_^ | 15:24 |
| seele | hmm | 15:24 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: it follows a single-click rule | 15:25 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: do you know if there are other listviews in KDE that do that? i cant think of any offhand, but it would be good to follow their interaction pattern | 15:26 |
| seele | (people have already been complaining about the 20 different ways lists are implemented..) | 15:26 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: so now we have to figure out our course of action | 15:27 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: actually none of the listviews implementations would fit the needs of this app | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: I already did, now you just need to unstand what I man :P | 15:27 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: do you have anything in mind? | 15:27 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: ok | 15:28 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: id have to see more of the dialog to know where the rest of the functionality is | 15:29 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: so in regards to the last part of ur revised commend with the 2 bugs we remove the kde4 dependencies then fix why kde4 is being listed as the alternative to kde3 right | 15:29 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: ok then we move on to more screenshots. | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: you have to fix 2 packages | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | kdebase and kdebase-runtime | 15:31 |
| apachelogger | in both there is an error in the debian/control file | 15:31 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: some general settings: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1214659_lk5x5/KGRUBEditor23.png | 15:31 |
| Artemis_Fowl | "(/dev/[sh]d[a-z]\\d?|('\\()?hd\\d(,\\d)?(\\)')?)" you need a special decoder to understand what this reg exp says....even I can't understand what I wrote...all I know is it works :) | 15:32 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: ok and the kdebase is another source code i have to get or same source code | 15:33 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: i dont think you can use tabs and pages that way | 15:33 |
| seele | pages contain tabs. tabs do not contain pages | 15:33 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: nm answerred my own question | 15:33 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: I am open to ideas... | 15:34 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: do you have more options in your dialog than in the mockup? | 15:34 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: it's not a mockup :) it's fully functional | 15:34 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: and yes all the other pages and tabs have functions | 15:35 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: options* | 15:35 |
| seele | i meant options that arent in the first wireframe. | 15:35 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: ah, yes. much more | 15:36 |
| seele | also, one of the reasons why the grub ui never got implemented was that the config files were rewritten every time a new kernel was installed and your changes get lost.. did this change? | 15:37 |
| seele | (there might have been some other reasons too, but they were technical and i dont remember them) | 15:37 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: don't really know. does the kernel installation affect changes that aren't entry-specific such as default, fallback, timeout etc? | 15:39 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: actually KGRUBEditor was designed accoding to GRUB's Official Manual. it is not distro-specific | 15:40 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: i'm pretty sure it does. but Riddell or mhb would know better | 15:40 |
| seezer | Artemis_Fowl: have a look at the menu.lst - only lines below ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST should be touched by update-grub | 15:40 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: that's all right then | 15:41 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: no.. the problem was that adept replaces the config files, so all of your preferences are lost | 15:41 |
| seezer | but this is debian (and kids) only i guess | 15:41 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: so every time you update your kernel you have to go an reconfigure everything | 15:41 |
| seezer | seele: sure? they just call update-grub after installing the kernels afaik | 15:41 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: I think what seezer says is true | 15:42 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seezer: only lines after between the AutoMagic list are affected I think | 15:42 |
| seezer | that's what update-grub does. check for all kernel/initrd images and put them in your config, merging the debian-specific config options into the 'kernel' and 'root' lines | 15:43 |
| Artemis_Fowl | Riddell: ping | 15:43 |
| Artemis_Fowl | if that's the case, then there is no problem | 15:44 |
| seezer | Artemis_Fowl: but the boot parameters for each kernel entry get updated to those 'default options' inside 'automagic kernels list' | 15:44 |
| seezer | i guess it's hard to get that done distro-agnostic | 15:45 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seezer: y there are many other 'hacks' in there such as lockold etc | 15:45 |
| seezer | yep. really debian-only afaik :/ | 15:46 |
| seezer | i guess i.e. suse does that alot different through their yast thingy. but haven't had a hand on that for a long time now.. | 15:46 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seezer: positive | 15:47 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seezer: they have their own 'hacks' | 15:47 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seezer: but such hacks should be edited by the user | 15:47 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seezer: KGRUBEditor works with standard GRUB, not all of these thingies | 15:47 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: is the other pkg part of the one we have cuz im already trying to download the 2nd pkg and im not finding anything pkg wise | 15:48 |
| seezer | but the packagesystems will break it then. that's my guess :/ | 15:48 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: anyway. any ideas till now? | 15:49 |
| seezer | Artemis_Fowl: but hard to do right.. perhaps you should just switch the meaning of 'K' from kde to kubuntu :) | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: can you please sk the question in an undestandable way | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | I read it twice and still don't understand it | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | s/sk/ask | 15:49 |
| eagles0513875 | u said i have to fix 2 packages | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | yes | 15:50 |
| eagles0513875 | i have the kde base im trying to get a hold of the 2nd package that needs fixing but im not able to find it | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | apt-get source kdebase-runtime | 15:50 |
| apachelogger | or source kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 should be able to fix it as well | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | errr | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | download instead of fix ;-) | 15:51 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: mmm.. not at the moment. is that just a ui file? | 15:53 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: that refers to...? | 15:53 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: I didn't get what you mean | 15:54 |
| seele | the screenshots you sent me, i was just wondering if it was a .ui file or if they were just mockups or if you coded it | 15:55 |
| seele | something you could send me so i can see all of the pages and tabs | 15:55 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: it is a combination .ui files and coding. for instance to set the KDE icons I use code | 15:56 |
| seele | ah ok | 15:56 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: what can be done using Qt Designer is done though it. anything else is coded | 15:57 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: have you got KDE4 installed? | 15:57 |
| seele | yes (on a different machine) | 15:57 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: then you could try to compile from source (SVN) and you'll see exactly what it looks like | 15:58 |
| seele | mmm.. i'm not really too good with that :-/ | 15:58 |
| seele | can you send me screenshots? | 15:58 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: what about a video? | 15:58 |
| seele | i guess that would be ok too | 15:59 |
| * Artemis_Fowl screencasts then | 15:59 | |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: to show you all the features, I will go through really quick. just pause for more details on everything | 16:00 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: it got a bit large and still I didn't include every feature | 16:03 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: uploading.... | 16:04 |
| seele | Artemis_Fowl: you know.. it doesn't need to include every feature | 16:04 |
| seele | the purpose of the dialog (at least two years ago) was to make simple GRUB options accessible to less-technical users | 16:04 |
| seele | power admins will probably feel more comfortable editing the file by hand because that is what they are used to | 16:04 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: y i know. only basic functionality is included in KGRUBEditor.... | 16:05 |
| seele | ok.. | 16:05 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: GRUB has hundreds of options... | 16:05 |
| Artemis_Fowl | 8MB is the video size... | 16:06 |
| seele | hmm.. bbiab. i forgot i have to go sign my new lease today | 16:06 |
| seele | ok | 16:06 |
| eagles0513875 | random question how do i create a new folder on the desktop when u right click | 16:09 |
| eagles0513875 | like u used to do in kde 3 | 16:09 |
| Artemis_Fowl | eagles0513875: not possible right now | 16:09 |
| Artemis_Fowl | eagles0513875: KDE 4.0.x is missing a lot of functionality | 16:10 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: still there? | 16:10 |
| eagles0513875 | Artemis_Fowl: is there a cli command i can run | 16:10 |
| smarter | eagles0513875: mkdir ~/Desktop/folder | 16:10 |
| Artemis_Fowl | y | 16:10 |
| Artemis_Fowl | eagles0513875: it can be done through Dolphin too | 16:11 |
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| Artemis_Fowl | seele: The screencast is uploaded. http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1214714_qf0ve/out_111046.ogg Watch it carefully and whenever you find me again in the channel ping me | 16:12 |
| eagles0513875 | gotcha | 16:15 |
| * Artemis_Fowl leaves...bb | 16:16 | |
| * Artemis_Fowl forgot to commit... | 16:17 | |
| * Artemis_Fowl committed. | 16:18 | |
| === emu1982 is now known as emu | ||
| === emu is now known as emu1982 | ||
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: how are the fixes coming? | 16:31 |
| eagles0513875 | slowly slowly | 16:32 |
| eagles0513875 | redownloading the sources tryign to keep things organized lol | 16:32 |
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| === emu is now known as emu1982 | ||
| === emu is now known as emu1982 | ||
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| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: got all the sources sorted out | 16:43 |
| eagles0513875 | !changelog | 16:43 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 16:43 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: should i https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto setup tpbuilder before i do anything | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: yes | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | it's in general a good idea to test-build all packages you change | 16:46 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 16:47 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: how long does it take to setup pbuilder | 17:00 |
| eagles0513875 | its downloading and retrieveing stuff | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: the actual creation? | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | shouldn't take that long with a decent connection | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | it's very minimal installation | 17:00 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: i think whats slowing me down is my ide hd | 17:05 |
| awen_ | Riddell: around? | 17:13 |
| * awen_ is terribly sorry about the api breakage | 17:14 | |
| awen_ | Riddell: I've changed the patch to not break the api and included it; plus added the FFE'd consumption display: http://awen.dk/packages/kde-guidance_0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu15.debdiff | 17:16 |
| awen_ | Riddell: if you have time to look at it ... ScottK is away for some days now | 17:16 |
| yuriy | awen_: you probably should consult pitti at this point. he sounded angry in the changelog. and Riddell's gone for the weekend | 17:18 |
| awen_ | yuriy: okay... I'll try that | 17:20 |
| yuriy | awen_: meanwhile, would you mind packaging the patches for bug 82723? | 17:21 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 82723 in kde-guidance "wineconfig doesn't work" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82723 | 17:21 |
| yuriy | or if i do it, should i be going off your new package? | 17:22 |
| awen_ | yuriy: do you have the patches anywhere else than in the svn ... don't really know anything about the svn | 17:27 |
| yuriy | awen_: hmm actually i think i'll put it together myself, but which package to work with? | 17:28 |
| awen_ | yuriy: just work from the one I just linked to... | 17:29 |
| awen_ | yuriy: then we'll only have to disturb a sponsor with one upload for all the fixes | 17:30 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: building the test app as we speak | 17:31 |
| * yuriy doesn't know how to apply a debdiff | 17:31 | |
| apachelogger | yuriy: patch -p0 < debdiff | 17:31 |
| yuriy | apachelogger: in the package tree? | 17:32 |
| yuriy | or above it? | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | above | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | i.e. outside the src dir | 17:32 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: that works got pbuilder up and running | 17:32 |
| apachelogger | cool | 17:33 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: random question lets say there is a debian pkgs in debian repo that doesnt have a source pkg could it be possible to take that pkg and re pkg it | 17:40 |
| eagles0513875 | once i have pbuilder im ready to start debugging things | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | eagles0513875: no package without source package | 17:41 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 17:41 |
| eagles0513875 | now that i have pbuilder am i set to fix that bug | 17:42 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: where or how do i know if i have a gpg key | 17:43 |
| Nightrose | if you don't know what it is and didnÄt create one you don't have one ;-) | 17:44 |
| Nightrose | *didn't | 17:44 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 17:44 |
| eagles0513875 | any link to a pg on how to creat one | 17:44 |
| eagles0513875 | !gpg | 17:44 |
| ubotu | gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts | 17:44 |
| eagles0513875 | when generating a gpg key do i have to use sudo | 17:50 |
| Nightrose | no | 17:51 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: do you know whether tonio is working on a fix for bug 191264 | 17:52 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 191264 in kdesudo-kde4 "KDE4: sudo removes /usr/lib/kde4/bin from PATH: e.g. "sudo kate" fails" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191264 | 17:52 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: not that I heard of but that doesn't have to mean anything | 17:52 |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: ill be back on later im getting there im goign to confirm my pgp key now before i leave | 18:03 |
| yuriy | awen-: http://people.brandeis.edu/~ykozlov/temp/kde-guidance_0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu15.debdiff | 18:08 |
| awen- | yuriy: doesn't that make the strings intranslatable? | 18:13 |
| awen- | yuriy: i don't know if it works in this case ... but have you seen the kubuntu_22_userconfig_utf8.patch , that was a somewhat similar problem | 18:14 |
| yuriy | awen-: well i'm not sure on that one cause i don't know much about i18n. i know current translations still work | 18:14 |
| yuriy | yeah i meant to ask you what the "similar" bug was | 18:15 |
| yuriy | ah so according to that patch translations should still work but it might not get the encoding right? | 18:16 |
| yuriy | or why is the .encode(locale.getpreferredencoding())) necessary? | 18:16 |
| yuriy | either way, it wasn't doing that before | 18:17 |
| yuriy | what i've changed is essentially instead of | 18:17 |
| yuriy | item = unicode(i18n("thing")); comobobox.insertitem(item) | 18:17 |
| awen- | yuriy: i'm not really that much into python+i18l ... that patch fixed a bug happening on the french language | 18:17 |
| yuriy | it's now item = "thing"; combobox.insertitem(unicode(i18n(item))) | 18:18 |
| awen- | yuriy: does that really make a difference... scary | 18:19 |
| yuriy | awen-: well i would hope that doesn't make a difference as far as i18n goes | 18:19 |
| yuriy | awen-: but since the items are dictionary keys they really shouldn't be translated | 18:19 |
| yuriy | and apparently can't, even | 18:20 |
| yuriy | hence the KeyError | 18:20 |
| awen- | yuriy: I see ... the strings kind of had a double use | 18:21 |
| awen- | yuriy: do we know which languages were affected? | 18:25 |
| yuriy | awen-: not really. but i would think any non-english and it just shows that nobody uses it | 18:26 |
| yuriy | or maybe french is just special and collects all the i18n issues while all other languages are fine | 18:26 |
| awen- | yuriy: he... sounds reasonable | 18:26 |
| awen- | yuriy: I still have the french hardy test install ... so I'll just test it there if you haven't done so already? | 18:27 |
| yuriy | awen-: go ahead. i had smarter test it yesterday but more wouldn't hurt, especially if you actually try to change some of the color settings | 18:28 |
| JontheEchidna | Where does a program reading a .desktop file look for the icon given by the icon=x entry? | 18:31 |
| JontheEchidna | assuming that an absolute path isn't given | 18:31 |
| JontheEchidna | /usr/share/icons or /usr/share/app-install/icons? | 18:32 |
| jussio1 | the first one iirc, but i may be wrong. | 18:32 |
| JontheEchidna | I installed a plasmoid that doesn't install its icon by default | 18:33 |
| JontheEchidna | so I manually added to both places after it didn't work with /usr/icon | 18:33 |
| JontheEchidna | but now I've deleted it from both places | 18:34 |
| JontheEchidna | and it still shows up | 18:34 |
| JontheEchidna | is there some sort of cache I'd need to delete? | 18:34 |
| JontheEchidna | or would that question be better suited to #plasma? | 18:35 |
| awen- | yuriy: it works fine in hardy+french ... couldn't break it | 19:20 |
| awen- | yuriy: you'll ask Riddell for an upload when he gets back? | 19:21 |
| yuriy | awen-: sure | 19:24 |
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| jussio1 | hrm, does kde4 system settings not have admin mode? its been asked several times and I have no idea... | 19:51 |
| fdoving | it's missing the guidance modules if that's what you mean. | 19:52 |
| uga | jussio1: exactly. Old methods were deprecated before any new method for administering rights were added | 19:52 |
| uga | jussio1: sort of "okay, lets replace existing features with vapourware" | 19:52 |
| uga | fdoving: he means that if you go to managing kdm, there's no option to get administration rights and alter settings | 19:53 |
| uga | for example | 19:53 |
| uga | they used to be there, but they got replaced, given it wasn't the "right way" to do it | 19:54 |
| _Sime | there was a recent discussion about this on kde-core-devel. | 19:54 |
| uga | it's old stuff. The intention was to handle security stuff in a backend | 19:54 |
| uga | rather than gui. But what I can't understand is why a feature gets removed before a solution exists | 19:55 |
| uga | and then released | 19:55 |
| uga | sigh | 19:55 |
| * jussio1 cries | 19:55 | |
| uga | jussio1: you can run systemsettings as root | 19:56 |
| uga | for now | 19:56 |
| uga | jussio1: enter konsole, sudo su; export XAUTHORITY=/home/jussio/.Xauthority; systemsettings | 19:57 |
| uga | and you can alter settings | 19:57 |
| fdoving | uga: removing stuff one doesn't want to keep early in the development cycle is smart. that way one can't just say "good enough for this release" etc. | 20:03 |
| uga | fdoving: but then removing very necessary stuff and releasing is... not that smart | 20:04 |
| uga | it's a good reason not to release. A showstopper | 20:04 |
| fdoving | pfft. | 20:04 |
| fdoving | look at releases as development milestones. | 20:04 |
| uga | fdoving: would you let your mum touch kde4 in the current status? | 20:04 |
| uga | I only suggest it to my worse enemies | 20:04 |
| fdoving | a release isn't a release in the commercial-release way. | 20:05 |
| uga | heh, you have a different pov from mine, it seems | 20:05 |
| fdoving | uga: sure, mom, dad and my brother use kde4 in kubuntu for daily computer stuff. | 20:05 |
| fdoving | have been for quite some time. | 20:05 |
| uga | when I first released an app, it was named pre-alpha, and was rather rock solid, 0.1-pre-alpha | 20:05 |
| uga | I was ashamed to release anything that wouldn't work | 20:06 |
| uga | fdoving: they don't administer their boxes then | 20:06 |
| uga | or your mom is a brilliant geek ;) | 20:06 |
| fdoving | what is there to administer? | 20:06 |
| uga | anything that doesn't work out of the box | 20:07 |
| fdoving | they already have user accounts, printer is working, has been since dapper, network just works, what is there to administer? - once the computer is working there is rarely any need to administer anything. | 20:07 |
| uga | well, then remove systemsettings from the release =) | 20:08 |
| uga | what's the point on keeping it ;) | 20:08 |
| cheguevara_ | lol | 20:08 |
| fdoving | my point is that you can't delay a release with a bunch of nice features just because 1 or 2 didn't finish in time for the release. | 20:08 |
| fdoving | in a software company, of course you can. | 20:09 |
| fdoving | you can force people to work on specific parts of the project too. | 20:09 |
| fdoving | but you can't do that in our world. atleast very limited. | 20:09 |
| uga | personally I wouldn't have removed the original methods. it wasn't that bad | 20:10 |
| uga | security was handled in the gui part, but it's been done that way for many releases anyway | 20:10 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: ping? | 20:10 |
| fdoving | about time it's thrown out :) | 20:10 |
| uga | fdoving: I see more of a problem with timed sudos that are default in *buntu | 20:11 |
| uga | I had to manually disable that | 20:11 |
| fdoving | the 5min timeout? | 20:11 |
| fdoving | yep. | 20:11 |
| uga | yes | 20:11 |
| fdoving | it's only for that particular tty, so i don't really see the problem. | 20:11 |
| fdoving | but i understand what you mean. | 20:11 |
| uga | fdoving: tty heh,... the desktop, you mean? =) | 20:12 |
| uga | you enter password once and you are root forever | 20:12 |
| fdoving | i mean you can't open a konsole then enter sudo and get a root-shell without entering a password even if you did run kdesudo <something> 2 min before. | 20:12 |
| uga | open for any gui application that wants to hack your box | 20:12 |
| uga | fdoving: iirc that used to work | 20:13 |
| uga | or at least worked through kdesudo | 20:13 |
| uga | on the same desktop, I mean, not on a different tty | 20:13 |
| fdoving | yep, but you can't use ptys either. | 20:14 |
| fdoving | you will however be able to run kdesudo 'app' twice. | 20:14 |
| fdoving | so yeah, it should probably always popup a confirmation dialog even if the password is remembered. | 20:15 |
| fdoving | kdesudo that is. | 20:15 |
| uga | yes, I agree on that | 20:15 |
| fdoving | my opinion is that kdesudo is utter crap anyway. | 20:15 |
| uga | a popup might be nice | 20:15 |
| uga | just a warning | 20:15 |
| uga | "app foo is trying to become root" | 20:15 |
| fdoving | maybe it should provide a tray-icon that sits there until the timeout is finished or something. | 20:16 |
| fdoving | and provide a way to 'forget-password' with a rightclick-menu. | 20:16 |
| uga | uhm, intersting concept | 20:16 |
| uga | btw, is there a good way to recover the "don't ask me again" options easily? | 20:17 |
| fdoving | depends on the app i guess. | 20:17 |
| uga | sometimes I feel like I shouldn't have checked one of those, but then going through the kderc files is rather tough | 20:18 |
| uga | I was wondering if there were plans for a centralised thing for those | 20:18 |
| fdoving | not that i'm aware of, but i'm not up2date on mailinglists and future plans. | 20:19 |
| jussio1 | uga, had to step out for a bit, but thankyou :) | 20:19 |
| jussio1 | uga: that just gives me a root terminal. ? | 20:20 |
| uga | jussio1: if you run systemsettings from there, you'll have root privileges on the app | 20:21 |
| uga | make sure you did the XAUTHORITY thing, else systemsettings app won't be able to access the display | 20:21 |
| uga | oh, I see... don't follow the line exactly | 20:22 |
| jussio1 | hehe | 20:22 |
| uga | type every command separated by ";" manually, one by one | 20:22 |
| * jussio1 feels silly | 20:22 | |
| uga | it was my fault. I didn't notice that after sudo su, the rest of commands wouldnt' have been executed until you exited root account | 20:23 |
| jussio1 | argh | 20:25 |
| jussio1 | everytime i try to paste after sudo su, it exits :/ | 20:26 |
| stdin | why would you use "sudo su" ? | 20:26 |
| cheguevara_ | lol | 20:27 |
| fdoving | i can't repeat it enough, icecream rocks for huge compilejobs. | 20:28 |
| jussi01 | stdin: see up ^ | 20:28 |
| stdin | jussi01: I mean why not "sudo -i"? | 20:28 |
| stdin | "sudo su" runs auths twice, once for sudo and once for su | 20:28 |
| apachelogger | stdin: wouldn't sudo -i preserve the env vars? | 20:29 |
| jussio1 | aye /me is a bit slow tonight | 20:29 |
| stdin | "It also initializes the environment, leaving TERM unchanged, setting HOME, SHELL, USER, LOGNAME, and PATH, and unsetting all other environment variables." | 20:31 |
| fdoving | which is what you usually always want. | 20:34 |
| === kitterma is now known as ScottK2 | ||
| fdoving | kdesudo uses a bunch of arguments lets see.. | 20:35 |
| jussio1 | hrm, I run: "sudo -i" then "export XAUTHORITY=/home/jussi/.Xauthority" then "systemsettings" and it gives me kde3 system settings... | 20:35 |
| stdin | set the PATH | 20:35 |
| uga | stdin: lol, because you can configure sudo not to ask password for certain accounts | 20:35 |
| stdin | /usr/lib/kde4/bin | 20:36 |
| uga | stdin: out of habit | 20:36 |
| ScottK2 | awen-: Around? | 20:36 |
| stdin | uga: you used to just have to add yourself to the "sudo" group and it would not ask | 20:36 |
| jussio1 | brb | 20:36 |
| fdoving | kdesudo uses: sudo -H -S -p | 20:36 |
| awen- | ScottK2: yeah | 20:36 |
| ScottK2 | awen-: Has there been any discussion about trying again on displayconfig? | 20:37 |
| uga | stdin: oh well, I'd edit sudoers straight | 20:37 |
| stdin | -H just keeps $HOME the rest is for getting the password | 20:37 |
| fdoving | stdin: -H resets home. | 20:38 |
| fdoving | that's the idea. | 20:38 |
| stdin | erm, yeah. that's what I probably meant | 20:38 |
| fdoving | yep :) | 20:38 |
| awen- | ScottK2: Riddell is away this weekend too .... but yuriy and I have just made a new upload ready | 20:38 |
| stdin | stops the ... is owned by uid 1000.... messages | 20:38 |
| ScottK2 | awen-: Is it tested? | 20:38 |
| fdoving | the first versions of kdesudo didn't have that, which made it break stuff. | 20:38 |
| uga | by creating rc files as root under .kde, yes | 20:39 |
| ScottK2 | awen-: If you can email me a debdiff, I might be able to upload it tonight? | 20:39 |
| uga | obviously it broke stuff ;) | 20:39 |
| fdoving | yep. | 20:39 |
| awen- | ScottK2: I've tested it ... but I would be happy if you would test it too | 20:39 |
| awen- | ScottK2: here: http://people.brandeis.edu/~ykozlov/temp/kde-guidance_0.8.0svn20080103-0ubuntu15.debdiff | 20:39 |
| ScottK2 | K | 20:39 |
| awen- | ScottK2: it includes the FFE'd change to power manager as well as a fix to wineconfig (doesn't work on non-english systems) | 20:40 |
| ScottK2 | cool. | 20:40 |
| ScottK2 | Got it. | 20:40 |
| awen- | ScottK2: I've tested the changed patch for the no xorg myself ... but please; do test also :) | 20:41 |
| ScottK2 | I will. | 20:41 |
| awen- | ScottK2: thanks a lot | 20:41 |
| * awen- really learned something new about the python api | 20:42 | |
| ScottK2 | I'm finally in a hotel with internet. Dunno how much access I'll have. There's a lot of pent up demand for internet and I've got the only laptop. | 20:43 |
| ScottK2 | Yeah. I knew you changed the internal api, but it didn't occur to me that other programs used that. | 20:43 |
| ScottK2 | I viewed it as internal. | 20:43 |
| awen- | ScottK2: he ... sounds like you are a long way from real civilization | 20:43 |
| ScottK2 | We were, but we're in Orlando, FL (near Disney World) now. | 20:44 |
| awen- | ScottK2: did occur to me as internal too ... and I also thought that with dual return values it was optional to "catch" the complete set of return values; but no, that is not the case | 20:45 |
| * ScottK2 heads out for food. I'll give it a shot later. | 20:47 | |
| awen- | ScottK2: okay ... thanks again | 20:47 |
| Riddell | doods | 21:15 |
| apachelogger | wooohoooo | 21:17 |
| * apachelogger hugs Riddell | 21:17 | |
| Tm_T | Riddell: sehr? | 21:17 |
| _Sime | mmm... smb:/ in dolphin crashes it fast. | 21:18 |
| Nightrose | the Riddell is back... :P | 21:18 |
| Tm_T | <3 | 21:18 |
| awen- | welcome back Riddell | 21:18 |
| Riddell | aww, you missed me | 21:19 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: just so you know, my summer project will start soon after hardy release, financial support or not, or otherwise I will run out of time | 21:19 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: we always do :)) | 21:19 |
| davmor2 | What Riddell was away....... | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | hm | 21:19 |
| * apachelogger gives davmor2 a cookie | 21:19 | |
| Tm_T | Riddell: having family issues that is, the good ones :)) | 21:19 |
| * davmor2 yay I got a cookie, I got a cookie :) | 21:20 | |
| Riddell | _Sime: works here (KDE 3) | 21:20 |
| _Sime | KDE 4 here | 21:20 |
| _Sime | I upgraded my laptop to hardy today. | 21:21 |
| _Sime | only had one issue. sudo broke after my hosts file was modified during upgrade. | 21:21 |
| Riddell | _Sime: what got modified? | 21:22 |
| _Sime | Riddell: I've called the laptop 'astro'. I guess the system name was set to that too. '127.0.0.1 ... astro' was removed from /etc/hosts. This broke sudo. | 21:24 |
| _Sime | sudo was looking for 'astro' but didn't find it. | 21:24 |
| _Sime | it looks like some of my old /etc/hosts was preserved. but the localhost line wasn't. | 21:26 |
| * _Sime is looking into PolicyKit and thinking about Guidance 2.0. | 21:26 | |
| Riddell | _Sime: can you report a bug on update-manager ? | 21:31 |
| Riddell | there may already be one | 21:31 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: great, looking forward to it | 21:31 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: I am too, I have CV sent to one place who were interested about financing me but no news yet | 21:31 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: I also will try to get into Akademy, I hope that really does happen too :) | 21:32 |
| jjesse | afternoon | 21:37 |
| === _Czessi is now known as Czessi | ||
| apachelogger | Riddell: can you please sponsor the debdiff in bug 207704 | 22:15 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 207704 in amarok "Amarok partially "forgets" media devices on close" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207704 | 22:15 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yep | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: thank you | 22:20 |
| _Sime | Riddell: I'm thinking about mountconfig. Is fuse something I could expect to see in a standard kubuntu install in the future? | 22:22 |
| _Sime | Riddell: I'm thinking about mounting smb etc in home dirs using fuse. | 22:23 |
| stdin | should I put qscintilla2 in the k-m-kde4 ppa? (for kdebindings-kde4) | 22:23 |
| blueyed | apachelogger, Riddell: there's another patch for amarok, please include it. I won't update it a 4th or 5th time. | 22:28 |
| apachelogger | blueyed: where :P | 22:31 |
| blueyed | apachelogger: you've been on it yourself this weekend.. (IIRC), search for bugs with patches in amarok. | 22:31 |
| blueyed | apachelogger: but it's not that important. just ogg stuff and a feature. | 22:32 |
| apachelogger | bug 201291 ? | 22:32 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 201291 in mime-support "Add ogv (video) and oga (audio) as recognized extension for Ogg Theora and Ogg Vorbis, respectively" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201291 | 22:32 |
| Riddell | _Sime: I don't know anything much about fuse but I expect it'll stay wherever it is now | 22:32 |
| blueyed | apachelogger: yes | 22:33 |
| apachelogger | waaah, I need to fix the kate preference | 22:33 |
| Riddell | stdin: can do yes | 22:33 |
| apachelogger | it's simply awful when you click a debdiff and openoffice opens ;-) | 22:33 |
| stdin | oke-doky | 22:33 |
| Riddell | erk, openoffice? | 22:33 |
| Riddell | never seen that | 22:33 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: it probably only happens when going from kde3 to kde4 | 22:34 |
| apachelogger | blueyed: I don't have audio/flac in my mimetype list | 22:34 |
| apachelogger | well, doesn't really matter | 22:36 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: last debdiff in bug 103227 please | 22:36 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 103227 in amarok "Add last.fm "recommendations" playlist" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103227 | 22:36 |
| fdoving | nite. | 22:36 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ok | 22:39 |
| ScottK2 | Riddell: I got permission from slangasek to try a non-api breaking upload of kde-guidance. I'll try and get it done later tonight. | 22:42 |
| yuriy | ScottK2: oh i was about to bug Riddell about that :P | 22:43 |
| ScottK2 | yuriy: awen- gave me the debdiff a couple of hours ago. | 22:43 |
| yuriy | yep i noticed | 22:43 |
| stdin | apachelogger: btw, remember that bzr repo of changes we talked about a while ago? well I have something preliminary up at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/+junk/kde4.0.x/files | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | stdin: looks good | 22:47 |
| stdin | I think it's easier to do it package->file that have one big file, saves time when searching | 22:48 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 22:48 |
| apachelogger | stdin: please add it as branch for kubuntu-members-kde4 and inform the kubuntu-members-kde4 list | 22:49 |
| yuriy | hmm anybody use kooka? is bug 216929 a bug or feature? | 22:49 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216929 in kdegraphics "Kooka wants to select a webcam" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216929 | 22:49 |
| smarter | If anyone has time to fill a FFe, konversation fix taken from upstream for bug #60898 is here: http://smarter.free.fr/pkg/konversation_dcc_crash.debdiff | 22:50 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 60898 in konversation "Konversation Crashes on DCC Chat" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60898 | 22:50 |
| smarter | otherwise, I'll do it tomorrow | 22:50 |
| smarter | package is here for tests: http://ppa.launchpad.net/smarter/ubuntu/pool/main/k/konversation/konversation_1.0.1-4ubuntu5~ppa1_i386.deb | 22:51 |
| === uga is now known as uga|away | ||
| smarter | g'night everybody | 22:52 |
| yuriy | why does a crash fix need a FFe? | 22:53 |
| stdin | apachelogger: hmm, how exactly do I do that, teams can't have a +junk apparently | 22:53 |
| smarter | yuriy: don't know, apachelogger said I should do one (: | 22:54 |
| apachelogger | stdin: register a proper branch - 'backport-resources' or something | 22:55 |
| apachelogger | yuriy: meh, I wanted to give smarter some practice in creating a ffe request :P | 22:56 |
| stdin | apparently I have to create a project first... | 22:56 |
| === kitterma is now known as ScottK2 | ||
| apachelogger | stdin: maybe only admins can creat branches | 22:58 |
| apachelogger | stdin: team admins that are ;-) | 22:59 |
| stdin | well that's Hobbsee or Riddell then | 22:59 |
| ScottK2 | awen- or yuriy: Still around? | 23:08 |
| yuriy | ScottK2: for a little bit | 23:08 |
| awen- | ScottK2: jep | 23:08 |
| ScottK2 | OK. I'm reviewing the changes now. | 23:08 |
| ScottK2 | There's some stuff at the end that's inline changes that looks inadvertent, but harmless. | 23:09 |
| ScottK2 | In guidance_power_manager_ui.py, notify.py, tooltip.py and kcm_wineconfig.cpp | 23:10 |
| * awen- looks | 23:11 | |
| yuriy | yeah don't know what that MODULE_DIR thing is but i think my or jr's homedir is equally incorrect ; ) | 23:11 |
| ScottK2 | Which of you did the i18 fix. | 23:11 |
| yuriy | ScottK2: wineconfig is me | 23:11 |
| awen- | yuriy: did you build in source-dir? | 23:12 |
| yuriy | i did run debuild in the package source dir | 23:12 |
| awen- | ScottK2: you can probably just either remove it from the debdiff or ignore it | 23:16 |
| ScottK2 | I removed it. | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: btw, if you need a revu, poke me a bit | 23:24 |
| awen- | I'll be off soon ... any last minute questions ScottK2? | 23:36 |
| ScottK2 | awen-: Not at the moment. Test build just finished and I'm about to install/test. | 23:36 |
| awen- | then goodnight everyone | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | oh, right | 23:51 |
| * apachelogger needs to testbuild 1.4.9.1 on gutsy | 23:51 | |
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