[00:00] <PhilRod> how does the kubuntu shell look up unknown commands?
[00:00] <PhilRod> I mean, what app does it use to provide the helpful message you get when trying to run a command that doesn't exist?
[00:00] <algyz> cannon:  it is
[00:00] <mefisto__> cannon: it's kde candy, but sweeter candy
[00:00] <flipstar> PhilRod: its a app/script called command-not-found or so
[00:01] <cannon> oooh ... i like candy! :P
[00:01] <cannon> how do I get it?
[00:01] <algyz> cannon:  take a look into synaptic, there is search option
[00:01] <flipstar> PhilRod: it compares the input with command-not-found-data
[00:02] <mefisto__> cannon: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php
[00:02] <stefan_> does kd4 kill my running system or is it save to install?
[00:02] <algyz> stefan_:  I think it's safe, just another window manager
[00:02] <cannon> my avi files won't play! :(
[00:02] <flipstar> stefan_: its save since it gets installed beside kde3
[00:02] <stefan_> i dont want some beta experiments anymore now
[00:02] <algyz> cannon:  try to install codecs
[00:02] <stefan_> :)
[00:02] <mefisto__> stefan_: it will add some kde4 things to your kde3 menu, but everything will work fine. you can easily uninstall too
[00:03] <cannon> lol
[00:03] <stefan_> thank you
[00:03] <algyz> cannon:  easy way is to use automatix
[00:03] <flipstar> cannon: thats no joke :) install kubuntu-restricted-extras or so
[00:03] <algyz> !automatix | cannon
[00:03] <ubotu> cannon: Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[00:03] <algyz> hmm :)
[00:04] <mefisto__> cannon: easy way is to go to http://www.medibuntu.org/
[00:04] <algyz> !codecs | cannon
[00:04] <ubotu> cannon: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:06] <cannon> lol, i just realised i forgot to install my nvidia driver :O
[00:06] <algyz> cannon:  which number of video card?
[00:06] <algyz> cannon:  if it is not very old, then: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[00:07] <cannon> 8800
[00:08] <algyz> this should work, actually nvidia is good brand :)
[00:09] <cannon> i still need to find the codecs :(
[00:09] <mefisto__> ati is good too :P
[00:10] <cannon> when I try to play em it just skips right through
[00:10] <algyz> cannon:  try vlc
[00:11] <jussio1> cannon: iirc, 8800 drivers were having issues
[00:11] <mefisto__> cannon: follow those links above
[00:11] <cannon> it has worked before
[00:12] <jussio1> cannon: check out nvidia''s site, there was some news about it
[00:12] <stefan_> thank you, have a nice day
[00:12] <cannon> i'll try gstreamer
[00:12] <stefan_> bye
[00:16] <chris062689> Hello. :)
[00:17] <cannon> FRICK!
[00:18] <coreymon77> ...
[00:18] <cannon> is there somehting I can type into terminal to get the codecs?
[00:18] <coreymon77> which codecs?
[00:18] <cannon> i just can't concentrate enough to read all those links
[00:18] <cannon> to play avi files coreymon77
[00:18] <coreymon77> !avi
[00:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:18] <coreymon77> the first one should help
[00:19] <mefisto__> cannon: it's easier to follow that link than reading it here
[00:19] <coreymon77> the first one should have all you need
[00:20] <aaron> pandora.com does not work for me
[00:21] <flipstar> use a proxy :)
[00:21] <Dr_willis> pandora.com seesm to be workinghere.
[00:21] <flipstar> its US only
[00:21] <mefisto__> aaron: are you in the u.s.?
[00:22] <coreymon77> that site is a piece of crap anyways
[00:22] <coreymon77> only the us
[00:22] <coreymon77> what kind of sh1t is that
[00:22] <cannon> ugh, still skipping through :(
[00:22] <LimCore> THERE BE DRAGON
[00:22] <Dr_willis> coreymon77,  your logic is lacking.
[00:22]  * Dr_willis recalls the BBC doing somthing similer.
[00:22] <Dr_willis> I would have to guess 'legal reasons' for the cause of the us only bit.
[00:23] <LimCore> "what, there are other coutries then USA?"
[00:23] <aaron> Wow is does...
[00:23] <coreymon77> w/e
[00:23] <coreymon77> find a us proxy
[00:24] <aaron> Pandora.com did not work last time I tryed cool
[00:24] <Dr_willis> aaron,  :) and where are you at?
[00:25] <cannon> if I can't get this sorted am going back to windows! lol
[00:25] <cannon> at least things work forst tiem there
[00:25] <aaron> I am in florida
[00:25] <Dr_willis> cannon,  i find that statement false for me  a lot of the times on my windows machines.
[00:25] <Dr_willis> cannon,  what video files you trying to play anyway?
[00:26] <cannon> just avi
[00:26] <beata> Would anyone here know the best way to set up a console font on Hardy?
[00:26] <cannon> i never had probs in windows when it comes to doing "standard" things
[00:26] <flipstar> aaron hm the site won't load or they say you're restricted ?
[00:26] <Dr_willis> cannon,  there is no 'just avi' avi is a conatiner for any of several 10000 codecs
[00:26] <cannon> i know
[00:26] <cannon> divx, etc
[00:27] <cannon> just I still can't play the damn things!
[00:27] <Dr_willis> cannon,  i can get most all video files to play back under ubuntu just fine.
[00:27] <jonathan_> hi
[00:27] <flipstar> cannon: did you installed the package i recommend you ?
[00:27] <jonathan_> it's me again :D
[00:27] <cannon> did you have to install packages?
[00:27] <Dr_willis> Ive installed the w32codecs, and the kubuntu-restricted-extras and perhps a few other parts
[00:27] <Dr_willis> cannon,  of course.
[00:27] <cannon> which one flipstar?
[00:27] <flipstar> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:27] <cannon> which ones Dr_willis?
[00:27] <Dr_willis> the ones i just mentined. :) w32codecs is the main one
[00:28] <cannon> i wish it could come with em installed
[00:28] <aaron> I works with ie
[00:28] <jonathan_> with a second queustion. I've the folder /home/myname. the "home"-folder is owned by root, the "myname"-folder (replaced by my user name ;) is owned by the user ehom the folder belongs to.
[00:28] <Dr_willis> cannon,  might as well wish away the lawyers and laws then.. thats one of the reasons they are NOT included by default.
[00:28] <cannon> bingo ... now I can get some much needed relaxation
[00:28] <aaron> I got it
[00:29] <cannon> yeah
[00:29] <beata> The console-setup package is asking me to install the kbd package, which is marked as a conflict. Not sure where to go from there.
[00:29] <cannon> but they are free! lol
[00:29] <cannon> i just don't get it
[00:29] <cannon> most things about linux are free
[00:29] <flipstar> beata: please ask in #ubuntu+1 , the hardy channel
[00:29] <jonathan_> now, if i'm simply logged in with my username and not as root, i cannot modidy the files in the myname-Folder, because the Home folder has only root-rights.
[00:29] <Dr_willis> cannon,  there is 'free' then there is 'Free'
[00:29] <cannon> lol?
[00:30] <Dr_willis> 'free as in speech' vs 'free as in beer'
[00:30] <cannon> still don't get it
[00:30] <flipstar> !free
[00:30] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[00:30] <jonathan_> how can i fix that problem??
[00:30] <Dr_willis> one is a gift they allow you to use.. other is a 'right' :) i guess.. time to read up on the GPL and  FOSS.
[00:31] <flipstar> jonathan_: your user folder isn't owned by your user anymore ?
[00:32] <jonathan_> no, thats not the problem.
[00:32] <flipstar> jonathan_: your user can edit files in $HOME but not in /home ..
[00:32] <flipstar> only /home/username
[00:32] <jonathan_> if i view the details for my userfolder in the directory "home" the owner is me.
[00:32] <Dr_willis> my 'little command' to install my mplayer/video 'parts' under Kubuntu --> apt-get install acidrip gnome-mplayer gnome-subtitles kmplayer kmplayer-base kmplayer-doc kmplayer-konq-plugins ksubtile libogmrip0 libpostproc0 mencoder mplayer mplayer-doc mplayer-fonts mplayer-nogui mplayer-skin-blue mplayer-skins mplayerthumbs ogmrip ogmrip-doc pulseaudio python-templayer smplayer smplayer-themes smplayer-translations soundkonverter w3
[00:32] <Dr_willis> 2codecs libfaad
[00:32] <Dr_willis> oops :) got cut into 2 lines..
[00:33] <jonathan_> but even if i'm logged in with this username (so i'm the owner) i cannot modify the content of my user-folder.
[00:34] <flipstar> jonathan_: maybe start konqueror as root with 'kdesu konqueror /home/' and then change it to your user recursiv ..
[00:34] <Dr_willis> check the permissions/modes with  'ls -l ' and see what modes it is.
[00:35] <Dr_willis> you may need to set its mode to 755 or somthing.
[00:35] <mefisto__> jonathan_: can you create new files in your home folder? /home/your-username
[00:37] <jonathan_> yes, i can create folders...
[00:37] <vinicius> hey all
[00:37] <flipstar> jonathan_: so its just a specific file you cant access ?
[00:37] <jonathan_> maybe
[00:38] <Left_brasil> anyone know compiz and xgl?
[00:38] <jonathan_> dolphin says on closing that the bookmarks-file cannot be saved because the permission was denied
[00:38] <Left_brasil> i think my xgl slowing my pc
[00:40] <flipstar> jonathan_: just check with ls -la $HOME .. nearly all should be owned by your user
[00:40] <ashmaus> How can I block connection attempts from a specific ip?
[00:40] <Left_brasil> iptables
[00:41] <Left_brasil> look on google for iptables drop or something else
[00:41] <ashmaus> ok, thanks
[00:41] <jonathan_> hm i could set the home directory  owner to my username, but i belive that than only i can access all the files (also the ones of other users) in the home-folder...
[00:42] <Dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x   4 root root 4.0K 2008-04-10 21:09 home/
[00:42] <Dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x 81 willis willis 4.0K 2008-04-12 19:39 /home/willis/
[00:43] <Left_brasil> is right
[00:43] <Left_brasil> no all users can acces home folder
[00:43] <Dr_willis> those are both.. err..   chmod 755  i belive
[00:43] <flipstar> btw what stands that 4 and 81 for ? i read it somewhere but i forgot ..
[00:43] <Left_brasil> chmod +rw
[00:43] <Dr_willis> inode , or somthing.. i foret also. :)
[00:43] <flipstar> :)
[00:44] <Dr_willis> # Script to fix permissions on all dirs below current dir. *make the dirs exeutable *
[00:44] <Dr_willis> http://pastebin.com/f47b30849
[00:44] <Dr_willis> thats my little Fix Permissions on Dirs Script..
[00:44] <Dr_willis> be carefull withit. :)
[00:45] <Dr_willis> the comments are longer then the actual command.. hehheh
[00:45] <Left_brasil> hhe
[00:45] <jonathan_> i think I'm to stupid for it ^
[00:46] <Dr_willis> http://pastebin.com/fcfb6f2 == my 'fix dirs' script.
[00:46] <jonathan_> yes i understood that :D
[00:46] <Dr_willis> oops fixfiles.sh :) a companion to fixdirs.sh
[00:46] <jonathan_> i mean how to use it ^
[00:46] <Dr_willis> basicially you want tobe sure that /home and the users home/username dir are all chmod 755
[00:47] <ashmaus> !apt-fix
[00:47] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:47] <Dr_willis> check what permis are on /home with -->  ls -l / | grep home  first
[00:49] <jonathan_> on /home: jonathan - jonathan
[00:49] <jonathan_> drwxr-xr-x 16 jonathan jonathan 4096 2008-04-13 01:37 jonathan
[00:50] <Dr_willis> check your /home   not /home/username  also.
[00:50] <Dr_willis> Your users /home/jonathan dir looks ok.
[00:51] <jonathan_> now i understood the command :)
[00:51] <jonathan_> drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  4096 2008-04-13 00:46 home
[00:51] <Dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x   4 root root 4.0K 2008-04-10 21:09 home/
[00:52] <Dr_willis> ok so THAT looks ok also...
[00:52] <jonathan_> hm??
[00:52] <Dr_willis> so lets summarize the problem.. your user can  go in to their home directory and  can not create files?
[00:52] <jonathan_> i can create files and folders etc.
[00:53] <jonathan_> but the Dolphin cannot change files in there
[00:53] <jonathan_> on closing it tries to save a bookmark-file in my /home/jonathan-folder
[00:53] <Dr_willis> so from the shell, you can do a ' cd /home/USERNAME ' 'touch testfile' and it works?
[00:54] <Left_Brasil> any one know how i get up my Intel with compiz??
[00:54] <mefisto__> jonathan_: check permissions/ownership of: /home/jonathan/.kde/share/apps/dolphin/bookmarks.xml (or it might be d3lphin)
[00:54] <Dr_willis> I agree with mefisto__  sounds like the perms on that specifc file are messed up.
[00:54] <Dr_willis> You could just delete all the dolphin settings files. :)
[00:54] <Left_Brasil> any one know how i get up my Intel with compiz??
[00:55] <flipstar> Left_Brasil: when drivers are installed prober..and you have 3d acceleration as usally i guess
[00:55] <flipstar> Left_Brasil: there is a dedicated compiz channel.. #compiz-fusion
[00:55] <jonathan_> drwxr-xr-x 2 jonathan jonathan 4096 2008-04-13 01:36 d3lphin
[00:56] <Dr_willis> jonathan_,  you could just remove that whole dir. :) that should reset d3lphin back to its defaults and perhaps remove the problem
[00:56] <Dr_willis> or look in the dir. and see what perms are on what files.
[00:56] <Left_Brasil> ok
[00:56] <Left_Brasil> ty
[00:57] <jonathan_> i found the error :)
[00:57] <Dr_willis> finially. :)
[00:57] <jonathan_> the persmissions for the bookmark-FILE
[00:57] <Dr_willis> -rw-r--r-- 1 willis willis 1.2K 2008-04-10 07:40 bookmarks.xml
[00:57] <jonathan_> is set to root
[00:57] <Dr_willis> is mine. :)
[00:57] <jonathan_> and not to my username
[00:57] <Dr_willis> you ran dolphin as root.. and it made the file.. i bet
[00:58] <jonathan_> yes
[00:58] <flipstar> jonathan_: next time use kdesu :)
[00:58] <Dr_willis> this is one of the reasons  i do NOT suggest running the gui filemanagers as root. :)
[00:58] <jonathan_> kdesu??
[00:58] <flipstar> instead of sudo
[00:58] <jonathan_> what is kdesu?
[00:58] <flipstar> sudo for graphical apps
[00:58] <Dr_willis> !kdesu
[00:58] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[00:59] <Dr_willis> :P
[00:59] <jonathan_> i hadn't used sudo
[00:59] <jonathan_> to start dolphin
[00:59] <flipstar> hm
[01:00] <mefisto__> jonathan_: how did you run dolphin as root?
[01:00] <jonathan_> i did a right-klick on the file in dolphin and clicked on Action->Open as root
[01:01] <mefisto__> hmm, that invokes kdesudo
[01:02] <jonathan_> but i used the sudo su command before, thats right...
[01:03] <jonathan_> to run commands in the console as root
[01:03] <jonathan_> but not to start apps
[01:03] <mefisto__> might be a dolphin bug maybe
[01:03] <flipstar> thats something different..(i guess you didn't touched the bookmark file)
[01:03] <jonathan_> how can i avoid this problem occuring once again??
[01:04] <flipstar> this shouldn't had happend anyway..
[01:06] <jonathan_> ok thanks a lot to everyone here :)
[01:07] <mefisto__> jonathan_: avoid changing dolphin's bookmarks (and other things) when running as root
[01:07] <jonathan_> very nice that you spend so much time helping me to solv that problem :)
[01:12] <JAM> how do you remove a program you compiled and installed from source?
[01:13] <flipstar> via the source..type make uninstall
[01:13] <Dr_willis> often they have a 'make uninstall' script in the source
[01:14] <Dr_willis> but not always :)
[01:15] <JAM> I tried that, but all I get is 'make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop.'
[01:15] <flipstar> look for uninstall files then..or read the README :)
[01:16] <JAM> nothing in the readme about it
[01:16] <flipstar> what program is it ?
[01:17] <JAM> muse score
[01:20] <Dr_willis> its a 'feature' thats not always included
[01:21] <flipstar> JAM: maybe type locate musescore and delete these entry's (if they fit)
[01:21] <flipstar> btw its in the repos ..
[01:22] <Dr_willis> or rerun the installer and see where it installed to
[01:22] <Dr_willis> if it was a 'nice' program - it may of installed to /usr/local
[01:22] <JAM> ya
[01:22] <JAM>  /usr/local/share/mscore..
[01:23] <flipstar> thats not the binary ..
[01:23] <JAM> :C
[01:23] <JAM>  /usr/local/bin/mscore ?
[01:23] <flipstar> try which mscore
[01:24] <JAM>  /usr/local/bin/mscore
[01:24] <JAM> ;D
[01:24] <JAM> now what?
[01:25] <Dr_willis> depends on what.why you are wanting to do..
[01:25] <Dr_willis> its installed in .usr/local it seems :)
[01:26] <JAM> I want to get rid of it D:
[01:27] <Dr_willis> well you found where itinstalled to.. go delete it.
[01:27] <flipstar> then delete mscore in /usr/local/share/ /usr/local/bin and $HOME/.mscore
[01:27] <flipstar> and maybe kmenu ..
[01:30] <arthur__> ...
[01:52] <volition> hi all
[01:52] <vasilisa> whats the device symbol for keyboards? /dev/...?
[01:53] <vasilisa> Because PCSX sucks, its trying to find my keyboard at /dev/js01. I dont have a joystick.
[01:55] <volition> no idea sorry
[01:55] <vasilisa> ;_;
[01:59] <volition> what the hell why can't kopete open the kdewallet, i am certain the password is correct
[02:28] <volition> hi again
[02:29] <volition> lvpm seems to be working so far
[02:31] <volition> huh now my sound doesn't work :/ it was working until i restarted
[02:31] <dudeeee34> hello
[02:31] <volition> hi
[02:31] <dudeeee34> can anyone help me get wireless
[02:31] <dudeeee34> internet
[02:31] <volition> ? what do you mean
[02:31] <dudeeee34> i am new to ubuntu and linux
[02:32] <dudeeee34> i dont know how to connect to my linksys router
[02:32] <dudeeee34> wirelessly
[02:32] <volition> one second
[02:32] <illDecree> hey everyone
[02:32] <dudeeee34> k
[02:32] <volition> hello
[02:32] <dudeeee34> hello
[02:33] <illDecree> is there anyone who could offer me some help?
[02:35] <volition> http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[02:35] <volition> best i could find
[02:35] <volition> i will need that soon myself i think
[02:35] <volition> !ask
[02:35] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:36] <volition> no one real knowledgable appears to be on right now, but my google-fu is strong so you might as well ask
[02:37] <illDecree> alright. well... i am fairly new (as you hear a lot) and im having a hell of a time getting a few things working on my laptop. i installed 7.04 and cannot get my graphiics working properly. i have read just about every doc i can find, and have spent over a week trying to get this working... i have a stock LM7WZ lappy.
[02:37] <volition> also dude try opening adept installer and just searching for wireless
[02:37] <volition> let me look that up
[02:38] <jhutchins_lt> illDecree: Since most of us DON'T have a "stock LM7WZ" "lappy", why don't you tell us things like brand, model, chipset, and what DOES happen?
[02:39] <jhutchins_lt> illDecree: We're all just users with various degrees of experience, waiting for an answer to somethng we don't know.
[02:39] <jhutchins_lt> !wireless
[02:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:39] <volition> illdecree look here
[02:39] <volition> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&OSID=45
[02:40] <volition> drivers for ubuntu linux
[02:40] <jhutchins_lt> 1) Chipset
[02:40] <jhutchins_lt> 2) google linux chipset
[02:40] <volition> alternately do a search on adept installer
[02:40] <jhutchins_lt> 3) google <distro> chipset.
[02:41] <dudeeee34> i cant
[02:41] <dudeeee34> im new to linux
[02:41] <dudeeee34> i made the switch
[02:41] <dudeeee34> from vista
[02:41] <dudeeee34> i need help setting up wireless
[02:41] <SlimeyPete> dudeeee34: welcome :)
[02:41] <dudeeee34> ah
[02:41] <volition> heh i guess i shouldn't try to install programs while i am copying my whole install over to another partition
[02:41] <SlimeyPete> erm...k
[02:41] <illDecree> brb
[02:42] <dudeeee34> ah
[02:42] <dudeeee34> i lost internet
[02:42] <matisse> i want to make a package of nspluginwrapper. what option should I use in dh_make ?
[02:42] <SlimeyPete> dudeeee34: what exactly is the issue?
[02:42] <matisse> "Type of package: single binary, multiple binary, library, kernel module or cdbs?"
[02:43] <dudeeee34> my issue is that i want to connect to my linksys router wirelessly
[02:43] <dudeeee34> but i cant do that
[02:43] <dudeeee34> because i dont know how to
[02:43] <dudeeee34> im used to windows computer
[02:43] <jhutchins_lt> !wireless | dudeeee34
[02:43] <ubotu> dudeeee34: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:44] <jhutchins_lt> dudeeee34: READ that first please, then ask if you still need help.
[02:44] <SlimeyPete> dudeeee34: I am not currently on kubuntu so may not be able to help much, but there should be a network icon in your system tray
[02:44] <SlimeyPete> right-clicking that is the place to start
[02:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> so...  is anyone familiar with OpenGEU?
[02:44] <jhutchins_lt> Linux is a DO IT YOURSELF operating system.
[02:44] <dudeeee34> 0k so now what
[02:44] <jhutchins_lt> !find OpenGEU
[02:44] <ubotu> No packages matching 'opengeu' could be found
[02:44] <dudeeee34> i dont know how to install it
[02:44] <jhutchins_lt> dudeeee34: READ the documentation above.
[02:45] <jhutchins_lt> dudeeee34: Try following it.
[02:45] <dudeeee34> ok
[02:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> picked up the latest issue of Linux User & Developer, and it's included.  It appears to be an ubuntu-based distro (using ubuntu repos) with a DE that's part Gnome and part Enlightenment...
[02:46] <illDecree> ??? is it usually this hard for people when they first switch to linux ???
[02:47] <SlimeyPete> the switch can be tricky because Windows & Linux have different philosophies
[02:47] <valisk> sweet install's done, rbb
[02:47] <valisk> brb
[02:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> the easiest thing i've found to tell people when switching is to keep an open mind and expect to have to learn at least a few things.  an open mind makes the entire experience that much smoother.  some things are a little more tricky, but generally, once set up, don't need to be touched again
[02:48] <illDecree> yeah,.... i have been a user of open source on windows for years and years, and i prefer it. im not a novice in tech, considering i do this for a living...  but Linux is something that i have no grasp of, and is really starting to drive me NUTS!
[02:48] <valisk> basically when you switch to linux you know how your parents/grandparents feel when they try to use the computer at all :)
[02:49] <illDecree> yeah, im getting that feeling, have been for awhile...      what makes it worse is most docs are NOT new user friendly, and i come across a lot of people that wont help a newbie in the char/forums... ya know?
[02:49] <valisk> okay brb
[02:50] <t3hwiz0rd> !pastebin
[02:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:51] <illDecree> Daisuke_laptop - could you possibly help me for a sec? im having probs getting the graphics to work right, and honestly don't know where to begin...
[03:01] <jburnett> 0/
[03:03] <beasty> morning
[03:03] <beasty> is there a alternative for *applets* in kde ?
[03:03] <beasty> as in 'gnome applets' ?
[03:07] <hydrogen> I did a general update a day or two ago
[03:07] <hydrogen> and now software mixing isn't working any more
[03:07] <hydrogen> is anyone aware of a bug about this?
[03:09] <crimsun> software mixing of...?
[03:09] <hydrogen> audio..
[03:09] <crimsun> are you using arts?
[03:10] <hydrogen> no
[03:11] <hydrogen> I'm talking about dmix
[03:11] <crimsun> dmix is only one part of it /if you're referring to ALSA/
[03:11] <hydrogen> Yes
[03:11] <hydrogen> I am
[03:11] <iltechie> what day is due official 8.04/
[03:11] <hydrogen> audio mixing worked fine
[03:11] <hydrogen> until recently
[03:11] <hydrogen> when I did a general update
[03:11] <hydrogen> I assume alsa was one of the packages updated
[03:11] <hydrogen> and since then
[03:11] <hydrogen> no mixing
[03:12] <crimsun> hydrogen: we need a lot more detail.  Run the alsa-info.sh script.
[03:12] <hydrogen> there is no such file on my system.
[03:12] <heinkel_111> i am having possibly related problems with audacity....cant get input to audacity from my mic :(
[03:13] <crimsun> hydrogen: http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh
[03:13] <crimsun> heinkel_111: unmute Capture.
[03:13] <iltechie> audacity is great in windows too BTW
[03:14] <heinkel_111> crimsun: in which application are you referring to?
[03:14] <crimsun> heinkel_111: any mixer program that exposes the 'Capture' element.
[03:14] <crimsun> (e.g., alsamixer, amixer, kmix, etc.)
[03:15] <hydrogen> http://pastebin.ca/983142
[03:16] <crimsun> what the bloody shod is "Kernel release:    2.6.24.2local-local20071021"?
[03:16] <hydrogen> my own kernel
[03:16] <hydrogen> that hasn't changed
[03:16] <hydrogen> since it stopped working
[03:16] <hydrogen> -> its not related
[03:16] <hydrogen> since before*
[03:17] <TeslaTony> How stripped-down can KDE get? Can it get near the level of XFCE?
[03:17] <crimsun> hydrogen: so now, run two concurrent aplay instances.
[03:17] <heinkel_111> brb restart x
[03:19] <crimsun> hydrogen: strace -fF from both is useful.
[03:19] <hydrogen> that worked..
[03:19] <hydrogen> interesting
[03:19] <hydrogen> apparently itsa phonon problem, was afraid of that :()
[03:20] <hydrogen> seemed to be a bit more widespread
[03:32] <rcg1984> adept crash and i unlocked it.  Now when I try and download packages I keep getting this message: "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. " How can i fix this issue?
[03:33] <p_quarles> rcg1984, running "sudo apt-get -f install" in the term can often fix such errors
[03:35] <rcg1984> hrm, it seems to be working correctly :-)  Thanks q_quarles
[03:35] <rcg1984> It seemed there was pending installs to be made from earlier
[03:36] <p_quarles> rcg1984, that fixes broken (e.g., partially installed) packages -- so you probably had something that didn't finish configuring
[03:37] <rcg1984> ya, i was installing java and it crashed at the license except gui
[03:41] <chris062689> In Kopete, I can't send IM messages through AIM
[03:41] <chris062689> Its talking about using the wrong encrpytion?
[03:42] <linuxlover> i am a newbie and want to install real player 10 in my kubuntu gutsy, for that i need to install commercial repository. can you please tell me how do i add kubuntu commercial repository for gutsy?
[03:44] <Azzco> linuxlover: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealPlayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealplayerInstallationMethods might help you but if you're going to use real player for music have you checked out amarok?
[03:46] <linuxlover> Azzco: Thank you for your response. Amarok is installed in my system but i download some mp3 music from a web site which needs real player and that is why i have to install real player
[03:46] <stdin> mp3? that shouldn't neen realplayer
[03:46] <stdin> have you installed mp3 support?
[03:47] <linuxlover> yes mp3 support is there and it is playing well
[03:48] <linuxlover> the supported web site instructing to install real player
[03:49] <stdin> the link above is the way to get realplayer on gutsy as it's not in the commercial repository any more
[03:51] <chris062689> Anyone know whats wrong with my poor Kopete?
[03:52] <TeslaTony> linuxlover: Try installed kubuntu-restricted-extras through adept. That's how I got MP3 support on my system
[03:52] <linuxlover> stdin : i cannot find real player for gutsy in that page. should i go installation with dpkg? please help me, i am a newbie
[03:52] <TeslaTony> (never did get realplayer working right, though...)
[03:53] <stdin> linuxlover: yeah, the easiest way is the dpkg way
[03:54] <linuxlover> :-) for me especially, thank you frineds
[04:00] <iltechie> in SUSE realplYER WORKS even on webpges
[04:06] <fidelio> anybody familiar with CUPS installation?
[04:08] <p_quarles> fidelio, parts of it -- what's your question?
[04:10] <DarkriftX> running kubu7.10 and dolphin seems to be very buggy. is it just me or is dolpin in beta?
[04:11] <fidelio> q_: I am installing a printer and get asked for username and password.  I type root password but does not get accepted
[04:11] <chris062689> What package contains the files required to play .ogm files?
[04:12] <DarkriftX> fidelio, try running the installer as root (either with sudo or kdesudo or whatever other options you can find)
[04:16] <fidelio> any other advise?
[04:17] <macogw> hey who has ktouch installed?
[04:19] <crimsun> hmm, I have ktouch-kde4
[04:20] <macogw> crimsun: you use kde?
[04:20] <macogw> nvm im using it on gnome
[04:21] <macogw> crimsun: do half the words appear to be...not words?
[04:22] <crimsun> macogw: can't speak for ktouch, but ktouch-kde4 appears to have real words.
[04:22] <crimsun> this meter is either insane, or I'm misunderstanding the Speed readout.
[04:22] <macogw> crimsun: characters per minute
[04:23] <macogw> yeah, i filed a bug that says you should be able to choose words per minute since in some locales wpm is normal and in others it's cpm
[04:23] <macogw> never thought id see a kde app that was missing an option for something
[04:23] <macogw> :P
[04:24] <macogw> crimsun: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeedu/+bug/199771
[04:25] <macogw> crimsun: thats the one where ktouch shows non-words
[04:25] <macogw> crimsun: kevin's very amused by syllabicatin
[04:25] <macogw> crimsun: he says ktouch must be in southern mode
[04:26] <crimsun> hah.
[04:26] <MrJoey> I'm trying to compile the evince document viewer, but it says it needs cairo-pdf, and it's not in the repository.
[04:27] <MrJoey> Well, it doesn't say it explicitly, I looked into the ./configure file to glean that
[04:28] <MrJoey> The message from my ./configure is:
[04:29] <macogw> crimsun: ktouch-kde4 doesnt show any text to type
[04:29] <MrJoey> checking for POPPLER... no
[04:29] <MrJoey> configure: WARNING: "PDF support is disabled since poppler-glib library version 0.8.0 or newer not found"
[04:29] <crimsun> macogw: huh?  When?
[04:30] <macogw> crimsun: im confused.  once i moved my mouse over where it should show what to type it started doing so
[04:30] <macogw> *shrug*
[04:30] <macogw> but i dont think Equuleu is a word
[04:30] <crimsun> MrJoey: apt-get build-dep evince
[04:30] <macogw> or Filofa
[04:30] <MrJoey> Thanks
[04:30] <MrJoey> But I'm not sure that will fix it, as the evince I'm building is from SVN
[04:31] <macogw> MrJoey: try it ayway
[04:31] <macogw> *anyway
[04:31] <MrJoey> am :)
[04:31] <macogw> the build dependencies arent likely to change *that* much
[04:32] <MrJoey> PDF is still disabled
[04:32] <macogw> crimsun: http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotktouchkde4cb7.png
[04:33] <MrJoey> Ah, I have 0.6.4-1 of poppler-glib
[04:35] <crimsun> macogw: hmm, is the Lecture configured?
[04:35] <macogw> crimsun: its set to English autogenerate
[04:35] <crimsun> bah, coffee shop is closing.
[04:36] <macogw> crimsun: cosi?
[04:36] <crimsun> 14U
[04:36] <macogw> ooo that place is cool
[04:36] <macogw> jozef loves it
[04:36] <macogw> says it reminds him of portland
[04:36] <crimsun> yep, back in a bit
[04:36] <macogw> kk
[04:37] <megacrypto> hi all ... can anyone help me with setting up lirc
[04:37] <macogw> i dont really type that slowly
[04:37] <macogw> it was the thing where i couldnt see the text at first that caused it
[04:38] <macogw> in case anyone's looking at the screenshot
[05:16] <b4l74z4r> where do i find konversations configuration file?
[05:17] <vintersorg> whoaim
[05:18] <vintersorg> shit
[05:20] <dthacker> !language
[05:20] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:21] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[05:21] <Cpudan80> What's the command for the restricted device manager in kubuntu ?
[05:22] <stdin> b4l74z4r: in ~/.kde/share/config/konversationrc
[05:23] <stdin> Cpudan80: it's in system settings -> advanced tab
[05:23] <b4l74z4r> stdin: thanks
[05:23] <Cpudan80> stdin: ty
[06:04] <delete> okay
[06:04] <valisk> hello
[06:04] <valisk> well that was an incredible pain in the ass
[06:05] <illDecree> can anyone help a noob w/a driver issue?
[06:06] <valisk> what is up
[06:06] <valisk> !wireless
[06:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:07] <illDecree> im having issues getting my graphics installed... this is a fresh install of 7.04, im running on a LM7WZ laptop, *i know its cheap* and don't really know where to begin. this is my first time fully running linux... so im a bit lost. so far, i think i need to enable restricted drivers?
[06:08] <valisk> did you click on the link i sent several hours ago?
[06:08] <valisk> i was volition then i think heh
[06:08] <illDecree> yeah....
[06:08] <illDecree> coudn't make much sense of it... i spent this whole time reading docs....
[06:09] <valisk> call this number
[06:09] <valisk> 866.850.8835
[06:09] <valisk> everex 24 hour tech support :)
[06:09] <illDecree> what is that #?
[06:10] <illDecree> they aren't really going to help me w/linux...
[06:10] <illDecree> at least, not ubuntu
[06:10] <valisk> you need to find the linux drivers for your particular video card
[06:11] <valisk> http://www.everex.com/products/lm7wz/lm7wz.htm
[06:11] <valisk> this says you have a
[06:11] <illDecree> ok. i can find the ones i need by finding the chipset, correct? if so, isn't there a command i can use to find that info?
[06:11] <valisk> S3 Graphics UniChrome™ Pro
[06:11] <illDecree> i know it says i have a S3 unichrome
[06:11] <illDecree> but, that link you sent me sends me to a whole bunch of those, that seemed to be listed by chipset?
[06:11] <valisk> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&OSID=45
[06:12] <valisk> hmmm
[06:12] <illDecree> *i really don't mean to sound like an idiot... but i am completely new, and just need to get a start somewhere. sorry if i come off like a dumbass
[06:12] <valisk> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&OSID=45&CatID=3220
[06:12] <valisk> we gotta figure out which one of these is the correct one
[06:12] <valisk> heh this is my 3rd day using linux
[06:13] <valisk> i just love puzzles like these though, it's a shame i didn't discover this before
[06:13] <illDecree> 3rd day!!!
[06:14] <illDecree> damn.... see, i have always loved the idea, but never really jumped in... and my company is "considering" moving to ubuntu... so to keep my job, i kinda need to get ahead of the game...
[06:14] <valisk> there is a specific ubuntu command or program you can use to discover exactly what graphics hardware you have though
[06:14] <valisk> someone told me it but i forgot what it was heh
[06:14] <illDecree> it, wouldnt be "lspci" would it?
[06:14] <valisk> i think linux just got to the point recently where it is user friendly enough to be usable for most people
[06:15] <valisk> try it
[06:15] <illDecree> yeah, usable enough w/a few aspirin, and a few really late nights
[06:15] <illDecree> haha
[06:15] <DarkriftX> i just installed 2 .deb packages (lightscribe software from hp) and i cant tell where the binaries are... how can i find out?
[06:15] <valisk> it's pretty close, needs maybe a walkthrough to get people started with basic stuff after they install
[06:16] <valisk> basically you have to figure out the basic structure(which is weird as hell hahah) then it gets much easier
[06:17] <illDecree> yeah, i have spent several days reading docs, and i have a linux+ textbook i am reading, but its useless unless i can figure out how to DO it
[06:19] <valisk> have you tried the hardware driver manager?
[06:19] <valisk> kmenu, system, hardware drivers manager
[06:20] <valisk> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&OSID=45&CatID=3220
[06:20] <illDecree> i don't believe its actually there... are you talking about the one that is supposed to be in "system settings" ?
[06:20] <valisk> try installing the first unichrome pro driver there and see if it works :)
[06:20] <valisk> i just click k then system and there it is
[06:20] <valisk> but then i am using 8.04
[06:21] <illDecree> i was told to look there earlier under advanced,   but it's not there, as far as i can tell...    i was told to try " sudo apt-get install restricted manager" but that generated an error
[06:21] <valisk> yeah i was told that too, it's wrong
[06:21] <valisk> that only works with earlier versions i think
[06:21] <illDecree> thats probably the prob... im on 7.04
[06:21] <valisk> restricted manager doesn't even exist on my version
[06:21] <illDecree> im not gonna change it until the new one comes out in 2 weeks
[06:21] <valisk> yeah
[06:21] <illDecree> mine either...i even tried it w/the disk in... no luck
[06:24] <valisk> !wireless
[06:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:31] <mike__> anyone know why kde4 bombs out and goes back to login?
[06:31] <mike__> 7.10 and 8.04
[06:32] <valisk> no idea
[06:32] <valisk> restart needed brb
[06:33] <Jurgentje> mike__: I guess this could be called a "bug" ... did you consider reporting the bug? (KDE4 is still in Alpha version afaik, so it's known to be buggy)
[06:33] <DOOM_NX> good morning
[06:33] <mike__> thanks for the reply jurgentje..... I dont know how to report bugs....
[06:34] <mike__> its been in the forums though
[06:34] <mike__> dont know if that counts
[06:35] <mike__> im waiting for the full release
[06:35] <Jurgentje> mike__: (1) joing #kubuntu-kde4 ... (2) Bugs can be reported at http://bugs.kde.org/
[06:35] <delete> hm
[06:35] <Jurgentje> Yeah, same here
[06:35] <Jurgentje> hi delete
[06:35] <Jurgentje> re valisk :)
[06:35] <valisk> hey
[06:37] <valisk> why doesn't network manager want to open :/
[06:40] <Jurgentje> dunno... what exactly happens?
[06:40] <valisk> okay so i have a script to install a program i have just downloaded
[06:40] <valisk> how do i get it to install?
[06:40] <valisk> i click on it and it does nothing
[06:40] <valisk> for network manager
[06:41] <Jurgentje> sorry, don't know that one... not familiar enough (also pretty noob in linux)
[06:41] <valisk> i see flashplayer installer right here, how do i get it to install dammit... i know how to install stuff from online with the adept installer but if it is on my comp it won't install
[06:42] <mike__> what are you trying to do with network manager valisk?
[06:42] <mike__> your network card obviously is working fine if you can post here
[06:43] <valisk> well i am trying to install my wireless card drivers
[06:43] <valisk> that is what it said i needed to do in the docs
[06:43] <valisk> and i have them right here downloaded, but i don't know how to install them
[06:44] <valisk> i don't know if they will work though it said they were for "linux kernel 2.6.x" or something
[06:45] <mike__> what kernel ver are you running?
[06:45] <valisk> in the readme it says run the "makedrv" script
[06:45] <valisk> how do i tell?
[06:45] <blust66> hi , before i tried ultimate1.7 i guess ubuntu based , now i have installed kubuntu but why so big difference about fonts ..in the ultimate was very clear and antialias ..what package need for obtain the same?
[06:47] <DreadKnight> blust66: is ultimate a distro or DE?
[06:47] <blust66> distro
[06:47] <DreadKnight> hmm
[06:48] <blust66> http://ultimateedition.info
[06:48] <mike__> you can tell version of kernel by looking in /boot and looking at what is after vmlinux-2.blahh blahh
[06:48] <blust66> there i have download
[06:48] <valisk> sounds good thanks mike
[06:48] <blust66> but have bug in the script installer
[06:50] <valisk> 2.6.24.12.generic
[06:50] <valisk> awesome my wireless drivers should work
[06:50] <valisk> if i can figure out how to install them
[06:50] <valisk> :/
[06:50] <valisk> is it possible to execute scripts from the graphical shell or do i have to open a terminal?
[06:51] <blust66> your wireles its internal device valisk?
[06:52] <blust66> i mean its pci card?
[06:52] <mike__> if the kernel doesnt auto detect your wireless card, I dunno what to do////
[06:52] <mike__> try modprobe
[06:52] <valisk> yes i am on laptop and wireless card is internal
[06:52] <blust66> pci bus based?
[06:53] <blust66> or pcmcia?
[06:53] <mike__> do a modprobe and see if kernel detects eth.. something more then 0
[06:53] <valisk> no idea blust i am installing these drivers for it from the terminal
[06:53] <valisk> okay modprobe
[06:53] <valisk> how do i do that
[06:53] <blust66> try also lspci that show you details about hardware installed
[06:54] <valisk> okay i think i got it installed when i ran lspci in terminal
[06:55] <valisk> it said: realtek wireless lan controller etc etc
[06:56] <valisk> hmm but kwifimanager still says no interface
[06:56] <valisk> and knetworkmanager still won't open at all
[06:57] <blust66> its the etc etc what important
[06:57] <valisk> 06:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)
[06:58] <valisk> well i did modprobe and it just said a bunch of usage options
[06:58] <valisk> hmmm this girl in my class knows linux i think, i am going to bother her about it
[06:59] <mike__> valisk.... the kernel is seeing the card... does your system have alot of stuff you need? have you done a fresh format and re-install to see what it will do?
[07:00] <valisk> yep i just got off of a fresh format and reinstall right now
[07:00] <valisk> and am trying to set everything up
[07:00] <valisk> wired internet works fine but i can't figure out the wireless
[07:01] <valisk> kwifimanager says unable to autodetect wireless interface
[07:01] <fernando> hi! does anybody know where the XF86AudioRaiseVolume key binding is configured?
[07:01] <mike__> did you do 7.10 desktop.iso?
[07:01] <valisk> nope 8.04
[07:01] <valisk> maybe i should try the non-beta as a complete newbie hahaha
[07:01] <hydrogen> kmilo I believe fernando
[07:02] <fernando> I want to change the config so the keyboard controls PCM volume, instead of headphone volume
[07:02] <mike__> do you have 2 nics plugged into your motherboard?
[07:02] <valisk> nope
[07:02] <mike__> oh laptop right?
[07:02] <valisk> yep
[07:03] <mike__> duhh
[07:03] <blust66> valisk try to read this http://www.gajon.org/installing-realtek-rtl8185-wireless-card/
[07:04] <valisk> ooooh
[07:05] <valisk> yep i already ran makedrv like the readme said
[07:05] <valisk> but i got a bunch of error messages
[07:05] <blust66> installed also the realtek driver?
[07:05] <valisk> think so
[07:06] <blust66> i mean you jave download it from realtek website?
[07:06] <valisk> yes
[07:06] <valisk> ooooooooooh i see
[07:07] <valisk> i am going to bookmark that page
[07:07] <valisk> what i have to do is use the terminal to connect to the router directly
[07:07] <valisk> there is no easy graphical interface for it right off the bat i have to follow these instructions
[07:07] <valisk> okay
[07:10] <valisk> anyway thanks for the help, i am going to go through those steps tomorrow
[07:10] <valisk> later all
[07:16] <fernando> does anybody know where the keyboard volume keys are configured?
[07:17] <AdrianStrays> So I need some help. I installed Kalarm on normal ubuntu.  Kalarm's auto-start feature didn't work, so I simply added it to the list of start programs.  However, whenever I start it, it shows the actual window, rather than booting it to the tray.  Does anyone know the flag to make it start in the tray, or alternatively another way to make it start in the tray?
[07:19] <xoqa> will someone wake everyone up in #kubuntu-kde4 for me?? :)
[07:28] <eagles0513875> xoqa: whats wrong
[07:29] <xoqa> eagles0513875: it's a kde4 question, but i'll ask you anyway
[07:29] <bullgard4> Kaffeine offers 5 operating modes. But an option is missing to view DVB-T. How to configure Kaffeine so that it offers me that option too?
[07:29] <xoqa> [00:49] <xoqa> oi, how do you configure kdm?
[07:29] <xoqa> [00:49] <xoqa> not seeing a place to login as root
[07:29] <xoqa> [01:20] <xoqa> also.. is there a way to update the kmenu when i install/uninstall applications, because it shows old applications or not the new ones until i restart
[07:30] <eagles0513875> xoqa: r u on hardy beta or gutsy and 2ndly when u right click on the k menu there is an option for a menu editor and u can change whats displayed there
[07:31] <xoqa> eagles0513875: gutsy, and that isn't present in kde4
[07:31] <eagles0513875> xoqa: for me it is
[07:31] <xoqa> reheally, that'd be nice to have
[07:32] <eagles0513875> for me when i set it up it asked me if which kdm i want to use kdm(kde3) or kdm-kde4 i chose kdm-kde4 as default
[07:32] <eagles0513875> xoqa: try it right click on the k menus button and then click on menu editor
[07:32] <xoqa> eagles0513875: not there
[07:33] <blust66> how to discover from terminal what X driver is in use?
[07:33] <xoqa> blust66: dmesg
[07:33] <eagles0513875> xoqa: thats interesting for me it works fine
[07:33] <xoqa> eagles0513875: you are using kde4?
[07:33] <eagles0513875> ya on hardy beta
[07:33] <eagles0513875> im starting to wonder if its related to a bug im working on
[07:34] <eagles0513875> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/216529
[07:35] <eagles0513875> xoqa: u see with the k menu is r u right clicking on it
[07:36] <xoqa> eagles0513875: indeed, and there's only 4 options... app launcher settings, panel settings, add widgets, and remove this app launcher widget
[07:36] <eagles0513875> there r 4 for me as well
[07:36] <xoqa> 'remove this app launcher' ** - application is shortened in my typing
[07:37] <eagles0513875> move k menu remove menu editor and panel menu
[07:37] <eagles0513875>  have u tried to load it with katapult
[07:37] <xoqa> that doesn't sound like the typical kde4 session i'm familiar with
[07:37] <eagles0513875> did u do an upgrade forkde3
[07:38] <sars> hello
[07:38] <eagles0513875> hi
[07:38] <xoqa> eagles0513875: nope
[07:38] <eagles0513875> u sure u have kde4 installed
[07:38] <xoqa> eagles0513875: lol, 4.0.3
[07:39] <eagles0513875> that might be why u dont have it
[07:39] <eagles0513875> im on 4.1.something
[07:39] <xoqa> ah
[07:39] <eagles0513875> wtf hold up
[07:39] <eagles0513875> its saying im on 3.5.9
[07:39] <eagles0513875> thats essed up
[07:39] <xoqa> 4.1 isn't supposed to be out to ...lol..right
[07:39] <eagles0513875> i downloaded the kde4 pkgs and its showing up as kde 3.5.9
[07:39] <eagles0513875> check ur about
[07:39] <eagles0513875> kde
[07:40] <xoqa> i did
[07:40] <xoqa> latest one
[07:40] <eagles0513875> 4.0
[07:40] <eagles0513875> ok then i have a dependency issues on mine
[07:40] <eagles0513875> then its proabbly something they remove from 4.0 have u tried the kde channel
[07:40] <xoqa> yep
[07:40] <xoqa> no luck so far
[07:45] <eagles0513875> xoqa: ill brb goign to boot into the latest kernel
[07:45] <eagles0513875> then get working on that dependency bug
[07:46] <xoqa> eagles0513875: okay, see you in a bit
[07:55] <eagles0513875> xoqa: lol was using kde3 before now iam on kde4 now i see what ur saying
[07:55] <xoqa> eagles0513875: i figured :)
[07:55] <eagles0513875> lol
[07:55] <eagles0513875> operator error
[07:56] <eagles0513875> i still would like to fix that dependency bug though
[07:56] <eagles0513875> since im new to debugging bugs and all that jazz
[07:56] <eagles0513875> the menu layout is like that of open suse
[07:57] <eagles0513875> xoqa: have u tried compiz with kde4
[07:57] <xoqa> eagles0513875: not yet
[07:58] <eagles0513875> i have it its pretty sweet
[07:58] <xoqa> well, i have in the past
[07:58] <xoqa> but.. i haven't installed it on this installation
[07:58] <xoqa> i was impressed last time as well, but i believe there are similar features being built into kde4
[07:59] <eagles0513875> found another bug
[08:01] <xoqa> an example of nowhere to login as root: http://bayimg.com/daJbMAaBG
[08:05] <DarkriftX> in kde, when i change the desktpo icon size to a smaller size (22 or 32) the icon spacing doesnt change, how can i fix this?
[08:07] <DarkriftX> and also, how can i make icons stay where i place them? (mainly removeable drive icons)
[08:07] <DarkriftX> everything pops up at top left and that annoys me
[08:09] <DarkriftX> xoqa, how did/do you make the windows dark with white text? ive been trying to get that affect but it messes up for me
[08:11] <xoqa> DarkriftX: it's a default color theme in kde4
[08:11] <eagles0513875> i hate to say this but kde4 is kool and all but its somewhat insulting to ones intelligence
[08:11] <xoqa> eagles0513875: :P
[08:12] <eagles0513875> the size of these icons r implying we r all blind
[08:12] <xoqa> alright, i'm going to take the kde4 talk into #kubuntu-kde4
[08:12] <valisk> hello
[08:12] <xoqa> oi valisk
[08:13] <valisk> crap!
[08:13] <xoqa> ?
[08:13] <valisk> what happened to that bookmark that guy gave me
[08:13] <DarkriftX> ok, think i found the theme, but it only applied to a few thigns (xchat still looks the same, as do my other apps)
[08:13] <valisk> i am trying to get my wireless card to work, i have a realtek rtl8185 but it is not recognizing it
[08:13] <valisk> and i get error messages when i run the installation script
[08:14] <DarkriftX> ok, i c.... yo have to restart the apps to get it to take affect :)
[08:14] <valisk> what is the pcisomething command to show what peripherals you have?
[08:14] <eagles0513875> lspci
[08:14] <pato> lspci
[08:14] <valisk> got it thanks
[08:15] <DarkriftX> lspci and lspcmcia
[08:15] <DarkriftX> lsusb etc lol
[08:15] <valisk> 06:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)
[08:15] <valisk> it shows that but network manager is acting like i don't have a wireless card
[08:16] <eagles0513875> valisk: what verion u using
[08:16] <valisk> 8.04
[08:17] <DarkriftX> ok, xoqa with your theme, can you see buttons? I can see the text in them, but the buttons themselves are invisible (makes it difficult to use because button text looks like just plain text)
[08:17] <valisk> maybe it would work in 7.10?
[08:17] <eagles0513875> valisk: might be a bug found mine no problem and mines a broadcom which is notorious for not having linux drivers
[08:17] <valisk> huh, did it just work automatically?
[08:17] <eagles0513875> ur on hardy right
[08:18] <valisk> yep
[08:18] <xoqa> DarkriftX: i can see the buttons clearly. i had that problem too at one time in kde3
[08:18] <valisk> i guess i will get the older version and see if it works
[08:18] <eagles0513875> valisk: wait
[08:18] <valisk> ???
[08:18] <DarkriftX> i just want an outline... i just found out how to change button backrounds, but not the border
[08:18] <eagles0513875> under system there is hardware drivers manager aka restricted drivers manager popup in gutsy open that and see if ur wifi card restricted driver is enabled
[08:19] <eagles0513875> if its not enable it and reboot
[08:19] <valisk> only thing in hardware driver manager is my graphics driver
[08:20] <valisk> no wireless card or anything else
[08:20] <eagles0513875> valisk: u might have to end up using ndiswrapper
[08:20] <valisk> i just googled that i am getting it now
[08:21] <bullgard4> Kaffeine offers 5 operating modes. But an option is missing to view DVB-T. How to configure Kaffeine so that it offers me that option too?
[08:22] <blust66> there some tool for convert 3gp to avi?
[08:25] <valisk> AHHHHH HAHAHHAHA I finally figured out why none of this install crap is working
[08:25] <valisk> i am not logged in as root
[08:25] <sars_>  how can change Channels
[08:25] <valisk> man i need to get used to this
[08:26] <level1> is there a way to figure out which port postgresql is using?
[08:27] <valisk> i keep getting permission denied errors, how do i login as root?
[08:27] <pato> blust66: mencoder , try to see its home site for commands
[08:27] <blust66> sudo
[08:27] <blust66> thanks pato
[08:27] <level1> valisk: are you trying to log in as root in the console?  use sudo -i
[08:27] <valisk> so i type that and THEN i run the install scripts?
[08:27] <valisk> do i do it in the same line or one after the other?
[08:28] <valisk> ahhh i see
[08:28] <valisk> well i guess that explains all my problems heh
[08:29] <valisk> man i've forgotten everything from that damn linux class
[08:31] <valisk> well crap when i do sudo like that it takes me out of the right directory
[08:32] <eagles0513875> valisk: u linux certified
[08:32] <valisk> uhhh no
[08:32] <valisk> i took one basic course a long time ago heh
[08:33] <valisk> i guess i should buy a book and read it or something
[08:33] <samy> after setting network manually , knetworkmanager doest show wifi networks anymore...
[08:33] <eagles0513875> lol try this www.google.com/linux
[08:33] <eagles0513875> searches only linux sites
[08:33] <valisk> haha cool
[08:34] <eagles0513875> im working on my cert
[08:35] <valisk> damn even with sudo i still get error 2s when i try to install this driver
[08:40] <sars_> how can change Mirc Channels
[08:41] <valisk> auuuugh that was why it wasn't working
[08:41] <valisk> i didn't have python or whatever
[08:41] <valisk> anyway now to get the windows drivers for this
[08:41] <valisk> sars type /join channel
[08:57] <tashiro> hey guys wats the fastest bittorrent client?
[08:58] <tashiro> any 1?
[08:59] <DrUnKnMuNkY> transmission's good
[08:59] <tashiro> forget it
[08:59] <tashiro> transmission?
[08:59] <wcost1_> ktorrent
[09:00] <tashiro> but ktorrent is taking so long how do i speed it up?
[09:02] <wcost1_> are you talking speed as in kbs/sec or as in resource usage
[09:02] <tashiro> kbs/sec
[09:03] <wcost1_> are you behind a router
[09:03] <tashiro> yeah
[09:03] <wcost1_> router config
[09:03] <wcost1_> is it wireless
[09:03] <tashiro> yeah
[09:04] <wcost1_> go to web browser try going to 192.168.1.1
[09:04] <wcost1_> that might be it..diff routers are different tho
[09:05] <wcost1_> or 192.168.0.1
[09:05] <tashiro> i know the adress
[09:05] <wcost1_> k
[09:05] <wcost1_> forward the port
[09:06] <wcost1_> and config the client to listen on the port u choose to forward
[09:07] <wcost1_> ktorrents always been best for me
[09:07] <tashiro> how do i config ktorrent to listen to that port?
[09:07] <tashiro> im a newbie
[09:09] <tashiro> oh found it thanx alot
[09:09] <wcost1_> np
[09:13] <siofwolves> anyone now how to create an mp3 audio cd?
[09:14] <ubunturos> !k3b
[09:14] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[09:15] <siofwolves> ubunturos, afaik it only creates cd's in audio format, i can't see create mp3 cd.
[09:22] <siofwolves> trying burning the mp3's as a data cd.
[09:23] <fdoving> yeah, i belive a data cd with mp3s is a mp3 cd, atleast that's what the player in my car eats. :)
[09:24] <valiskurgh> well i have ndiswrapper set up and the windows driver for my wireless card installed
[09:24] <valiskurgh> and it checks out as driver installed and hardware working, but i still can't find any wireless network
[09:26] <valiskurgh> says "unable to autodetect wireless interface," reading more docs now
[09:27] <valiskurgh> i guess i need  to install iwconfig
[09:27] <bullgard4> Kaffeine offers 5 operating modes. But an option is missing to view DVB-T. How to configure Kaffeine so that it offers me that option too?
[09:28] <jussio1> bullgard4: do you have a dvbt tuner?
[09:43] <valisk> this appears to be why ndiswrapper isn't working
[09:43] <valisk> ndiswrapper version 1.52 loaded (smp=yes, preempt=no)
[09:43] <valisk> [ 2481.725214] ndiswrapper (check_nt_hdr:150): kernel is 64-bit, but Windows driver is not 64-bit;bad magic: 010B
[09:44] <pato> valiskurgh: No, u must not install iwconfig, it is pre-installed.
[09:44] <valisk> yep already got that
[09:44] <valisk> i am getting error messages in the dmesg | grep ndiswrapper
[09:44] <valisk> that i think are why it is not working
[09:44] <valisk> [ 2481.725226] ndiswrapper (load_sys_files:210): couldn't prepare driver 'net8185'
[09:45] <valisk> [ 2481.721637] ndiswrapper (load_wrap_driver:112): couldn't load driver net8185; check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[09:45] <valisk> how do i check the system log
[09:46] <valisk> is it just because my windows driver is not 64bit, so it won't work? should i get the 64bit windows driver?
[09:46] <jussio1> valisk: likely
[09:46] <valisk> i will try it
[09:49] <zzillezz> could anyone tell me how to install flash in kubuntu kde4? people are very quiet in the kde4 room ... thanks :-)
[09:51] <ubuntu> hello
[09:51] <jussio1> hi
[09:51] <valisk> uuuurrgh gateway doesn't have 32bit drivers for this wireless card
[09:52] <jussio1> valisk: bleh
[09:52] <valisk> you know i think it will just be easier for me to buy a plug in wireless card that i know will work with linux
[09:52] <valisk> 64bit i meant
[09:52] <jussio1> valisk: yep. go get an atheros or somethimg
[09:52] <ubuntu> i rebooted my kubuntu system and gut the error "error 15: file not found. Press any key to continue".
[09:52] <pato> zzillez: u can install it by Adept, but im using Synaptic, it is better. :) Run Adept as root, find flashplayer and then install it.
[09:53] <ubuntu> i don't have even an idea how to fix that problem...
[09:53] <valisk> atheros? i will look it up and get it, thanks
[09:53] <jussio1> !hardware | valisk
[09:53] <ubotu> valisk: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[09:53] <jussio1> valisk: have a look for something on that list
[09:54] <pato> zzillez: or download flashplayer from adobe.com, extract archive and run installer
[09:54] <valisk> sounds good thanks
[09:56] <ubuntu> is it right that my sda (where all my kubuntu files are installed on) must be mounted to boot the system and that the reason for my error was that the harddrive wasn't mounted?
[09:56] <valisk> well what the hell
[09:57] <jussio1> valisk: hm??
[09:57] <valisk> free software alliance recommends realtek rtl-8180
[09:57] <valisk> and the card i have is a realtek 8185
[09:57] <bullgard4> jussio1: Yes, I do: WinTV NOVA-T.
[09:57] <valisk> so it should work
[09:57] <jussio1> !tv | bullgard4
[09:57] <ubotu> bullgard4: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[09:57] <jussio1> valisk: you may just need to modprobe the correct module.
[09:59] <bullgard4> jussio1: Thank you for your information. I will be hunting for a dvb-usb-dib0700-1.10.fw driver.
[09:59] <valisk> how would i know what module to modprobe
[09:59] <valisk> anyplace to check?
[10:00] <jussio1> valisk: it seems a weird driver, google around a bit
[10:02] <ubuntu> please help me...
[10:02] <valisk> k
[10:03] <valisk> yeah i think yor hard drive needs to be mounted to boot
[10:03] <jussio1> ubuntu: so it gives a grub error 15?
[10:04] <ubuntu> i'm not sure whether it is grub or Kubuntu returningthe error...
[10:05] <ubuntu> the loading-bar of kubuntu had appeared before that error occured...
[10:08] <ubuntu> but how can i mount the hard drive? i'm currently running kubuntu from the live cd...
[10:09] <jussio1> !grub | ubuntu, try reinstalling grub with these
[10:09] <ubotu> ubuntu, try reinstalling grub with these: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:10] <ubuntu> I think i have found the error
[10:10] <ubuntu> i looked in the device.map.
[10:10] <ubuntu> there ist the root-hard-drive "sda".
[10:11] <ubuntu> But if i look in the "Storage-Media" Dialog with delphin this hard-drive is called "sda1"
[10:11] <ubuntu> look at the "1" after the sda
[10:12] <ubuntu> so grub tries to boot from sda, but the hard-drive is sda1
[10:12] <ubuntu> could this be the error?
[10:15] <icarus> Ya du monde ici ?
[10:15] <valisk> yeargh i will try more tomorrow
[10:15] <valisk> thanks all and good luck
[10:15] <Jucato> !FR | icarus
[10:15] <ubotu> icarus: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:16] <icarus> thanks Jucato !
[10:22] <ubuntu> how can i get the name of a hard drive in this format: (hd0,0)
[10:22] <ubuntu> i only get the name like sda1 or sdb etc.
[10:22] <you_idiot> 1 represents a partition on your harddrive
[10:24] <ubuntu> yes i know that but i need the name of sda1 in the format (hd0,0), for example.
[10:28] <blekos> hi, i am running vmware is there a way to increase it's priority in order to increase the performance?
[10:30] <ubuntu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3979719&postcount=4
[10:30] <ubuntu> i found this.
[10:31] <ubuntu> this is esactly the problem I head
[10:31] <ubuntu> can someone please, please say me how to do what this poster said??
[10:34] <bullgard4> jussio1: Although I added a driver /lib/firmware/dvb-usb-dib0700-1.10.fw, removed my TV stick and replaced it, syslog reports: " main: error loading '/lib/firmware/dvb-usb-dib0700-1.10.fw' for device '/class/firmware/5-1' with driver 'usb'. dvb-usb: did not find the firmware file. (dvb-usb-dib0700-1.10.fw)." What should I do to get rid of this error message?
[10:40] <Gater> Wanna be AN IRCOP? ---> http://crazyk.sytes.net/ http://crazyk.sytes.net/ http://crazyk.sytes.net/
[10:44] <stdin> jussi01: k-lined
[10:44] <jussi01> stdin: aye
[10:44] <jussi01> thanks
[10:45] <stdin> the ban mask was off anyway ;)
[10:46] <Ax-Ax> isn't there a easy way to convert flac to mp3 WITHOUT loosing all tags?
[10:53] <ubuntu> hello it's me again
[10:54] <ubuntu> can someone tell me how to see the name of my hard drive in THIS FORMAT: (hdx,x)
[10:54] <ubuntu> ???
[10:55] <jussio1> ubuntu: no. but if you are in the grub console, use: find /boot/grub/stage1
[10:58] <ubuntu> hm my problem was that grub tries to load my system of the drive (hd0,0) and returns the error that a file cannot be found (error 15). I found in the internet that it's because an update i've made too that changes my hard-drive from (hd0,0) to (hd1,0), for eg, so grub can't find it then
[10:58] <ubuntu> PLEASE HELP ME
[11:01] <jussio1> ubuntu: did you follow the instructions for restoring grub?
[11:01] <jussio1> !caps
[11:01] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:03] <ubuntu> sorry
[11:04] <jussio1> ubuntu: follow th lost grub after windows instructions here:
[11:04] <jussio1> !grub
[11:04] <ubuntu> how can i restore grub?
[11:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:05] <catur> this is my first time using kubuntu, i am newbie. my office use juniper odyssey for wifi connection, i have tried kwlan but it could not connect to my office, any sugestion please.. help me
[11:05] <dvoid> is kubuntu gona use pulse audio?
[11:06] <jussio1> no, not by default
[11:09] <ubuntu> i can mook, i updates grube via "update-grub" in a temp directory and replaced the file on my hard drive with the generated "menu.lst".
[11:09] <ubuntu> now i gonna try to restart my system :)
[11:09] <ubuntu> right then
[11:15] <alfons> what can I do to get updater working properly again after first update I get nessage that program is running twice
[11:15] <alfons> message that is
[11:15] <ubuntu> so, its me again
[11:16] <ubuntu> it hadn't worked
[11:16] <ubuntu> the error 15-message disappeard but is replaced with a new error message
[11:17] <ubuntu> somthing like that: kernal panic - unable to mount on unknown point (hd0,0)
[11:18] <ubuntu> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block
[11:19] <jussio1> ouch
[11:21] <Josh0vki> ubuntu: you have have to fully reinstall grub
[11:21] <Josh0vki> ubuntu: how long have you been using kubuntu?
[11:22] <ubuntu> 1 day ^^
[11:22] <ubuntu> ok
[11:22] <ubuntu> and how do i fully reinstall grub?
[11:23] <Josh0vki> ubuntu: do you have many files saved into you home directory?
[11:23] <ubuntu> no
[11:23] <Josh0vki> because it might be easier to just start from scratch
[11:24] <Josh0vki> ubuntu: install grub isnt totaly simple,  expecialy compaired to just reisntalling
[11:25] <equex> anyone able to help with getting xmms-flac to work ? i think i need to downgrade the curent package but i dont know where to get a working version..using 6.06.2, its a known problem but everyone assumes i have an old working package aroind
[11:27] <ubuntu> ok, i restored grub
[11:27] <ubuntu> i gonna try to restart now once again... :/ damnd shit
[11:27] <ubuntu> sorry
[11:27] <jussio1> :/
[11:27] <Josh0vki> ...
[11:28]  * Josh0vki kicks him up the behind
[11:28] <membrive> sombody knows if amarok 1.4.9 will be included in gutsy?
[11:28] <jussio1> !info amarok
[11:28] <ubotu> amarok (source: amarok): versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.7-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 9618 kB, installed size 31020 kB
[11:28] <jussio1> membrive: nothing new will be added to gutsy
[11:28] <jussio1> !info amarok hardy
[11:28] <Josh0vki> its all on hardy now
[11:29] <ubotu> amarok (source: amarok): versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.9.1-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 9386 kB, installed size 30784 kB
[11:29] <jussio1> membrive: hardy has 2.4.9
[11:29] <jussio1> gah
[11:29]  * Josh0vki taps fingers while /home dir backs up
[11:29] <jussio1> 1.4.9
[11:29] <membrive> uhm I have 1.4.8 for gutsy, I think from backports
[11:29] <JamesB192> I think qmeu might be a little useful in your situation, ubuntu. Just a little though.
[11:29] <jussio1> membrive: oh. forgot about backports
[11:29] <Josh0vki> JamesB192: he has left
[11:30] <jussio1> membrive: its possible, i suppose...
[11:30] <membrive> well, I will wait, if not I think I will upgrade to hardy
[11:30] <jussio1> membrive: do the upgrade in a few weeks, hardy is nice :)
[11:31]  * Josh0vki /home dir is backed up. time to bite the bullet
[11:31] <JamesB192> Which is what I get for not reading all the messages.  8-(
[11:31] <membrive> jussi01, I know that is in Beta now, but is stable enough for daily use?
[11:31] <jussio1> membrive: go to #ubuntu+1 then raed the topic :)
[11:32] <membrive> ok, thanks :P
[11:33] <ubuntu> hello ``
[11:33] <ubuntu> it hadn|t worked
[11:33] <ubuntu> i think i gonna reinstall kubuntu
[11:34] <ubuntu> how can i backup all the configurations (eg. Language and installed software etc) i made?
[11:34] <Josh0vki> ubuntu: thats what i would do. how many changes did you make in 1 day?
[11:36] <bentob0x> how can I get a fixed layout for the navigation panel in konqueror (--profile filemanagement)
[11:37] <ubuntu> hm not so much...
[11:37] <ubuntu> thanks for your help!
[11:37] <Josh0vki> good luck ubuntu
[11:37] <ubuntu> thanks
[11:38] <Josh0vki> he will be back
[11:38] <bentob0x> everytime I turn on/off the bookmarks, the window size is tiny at the bottom of the navigation bar
[11:41] <Josh0vki> bentob0x i havnt seen that before sorry
[11:41] <bentob0x> np
[11:44] <ubuntu> reg
[11:44] <ubuntu> ?
[11:45] <Josh0vki> reg?
[11:46] <ubuntu> how to reg myself
[11:46] <Josh0vki> !register | ubuntu
[11:46] <ubotu> ubuntu: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[11:51] <crackhead_25_> hey people, how do i find out what my motherboard can hold in terms of memory and what is currently in it??
[12:00] <pato> crackhead_25_: hi, u can use command free -m and u can see info about usage memory and swap
[12:03] <pato> for maximum RAM installable on your motherboard, u can watch home site of your mobo's manufacturer.
[12:04] <spine55> !register | ubuntu
[12:04] <ubotu> ubuntu: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[12:04] <Josh0vki> spine55: already sorted him out
[12:05] <spine55> sorry just wanted to get the information myself I registered quite a while back. Wasn't sure if anything had changed
[12:05] <Josh0vki> ah kk :)
[12:05] <spine55> hehe
[12:06] <Josh0vki> i just realised he didnt say thanks
[12:06] <spine55> People these days!
[12:06] <Josh0vki> so im pollite
[12:06] <Josh0vki> *impolite
[12:06] <Josh0vki> or however you spell it
[12:06] <spine55> close enough
[12:15] <adude> is there a program like proshow that i can use to make slideshows with my pictures.
[12:16] <b4l74z4r> does anyone know of a mp3 script for konversation that is compatible with rhythmbox?
[12:18] <pato> adude: i think, it's digikam.
[12:19] <adude> ok i will check it out
[12:47] <wqfqwwf> ban me punk ass kids
[12:47] <wqfqwwf> PROPHET MUHAMMAD SUCKS DICK
[12:47] <wqfqwwf> PROPHET MUHAMMAD SUCKS camel DICK
[12:47] <wqfqwwf> ban me punk ass kids
[12:47] <wqfqwwf> ban me punk ass kids
[12:49] <chi_> ^^ wtf
[12:50] <nalioth> Hobbsee: long gone
[12:51] <Hobbsee> oh good.
[12:57] <kaminix> What the hell was up with that dude (=wqfqwwf)? :p
[12:57] <kaminix> Sorry for language...
[12:57] <kaminix> [13:47:44] *** jussi01 sets a ban on *!*@91.98.88.204.                           [13:47:44] <-- wqfqwwf has left this channel (requested by jussi01: "you should know better").
[13:02] <sinthetek> i'm having some issues trying to get my network card reconfigured. exactly what configuration tool should i be using?
[13:02] <sinthetek> eth0 is configuarable, lights are coming on, other hosts on the lan are pingable...
[13:03] <sinthetek> ip and netmask look ok in ifconfig and as far as i can see the route looks ok, but nothing is pingable for some reason..
[13:06] <adude> when i uninstall a program does it remove the packages it downloaded also?
[13:06] <Bauldrick> is there a program like tunebite for windows that will remove drm from my itunes purchased songs? (.m4p's)
[13:07] <ere4si> adude: not normally
[13:07] <adude> where can i find them so i can delete them?
[13:08] <ere4si> adude: they are in /var/cache/apt/archives
[13:08] <ere4si> adude: in konsole type sudo apt-get clean
[13:09] <adude> does that get rid of all the unused packages?
[13:09] <ere4si> adude: it clears the archive
[13:11] <adude> hey thanks it worked.
[13:12] <adude> the command line is so cool.
[13:13] <sinthetek> nm, i found the problem... bad cable, heh
[13:43] <spiroo> Is it possible to fetch the latest Amarok2 trunk to use myself?
[13:43] <Jucato> you'll have to build from source code checked out of svn
[13:43] <spiroo> I do not want to use the pre-alpha :P
[13:44] <Jucato> I think their website gives instructions how. ask in #amarok for clarifications
[13:44] <spiroo> Jucato: How do I do?
[13:44] <spiroo> okay thanks
[13:44] <Jucato> see what I said last :)
[13:47] <spiroo> No answer in there :P
[13:47] <Jucato> maybe they're busy. check their website
[13:48] <emilsedgh> spiroo: techbase.kde.org has tutorials about how to build kde's trunk.after you do that, building amarok would be easy
[13:48] <spiroo> okay, thanks
[13:48] <emilsedgh> (and amarok2 rocks)
[14:00] <jonathan_> hello
[14:00] <jonathan_> i wanna install glx-drivers for ati, but don#t know how :/
[14:00] <jonathan_> can someone help me? :)
[14:04] <KRF> jonathan_, google. there are so many howtos
[14:06] <llutz> !ati
[14:06] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[14:15] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:22] <bullo> salut
[14:30] <Ar-Pharazon> Hi, adept manager doesn't work. It just sits on "Waiting for headers (0%)" when I apply changes.
[14:30] <Ar-Pharazon> Can you guys think of a reason why?
[14:32] <Ar-Pharazon> Hi, adept manager doesn't work. It just sits on "Waiting for headers (0%)" when I apply changes.Can you guys think of a reason why?
[14:33] <emilsedgh> !repeat | Ar-Pharazon
[14:33] <ubotu> Ar-Pharazon: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[14:33] <emilsedgh> !patience | Ar-Pharazon
[14:33] <ubotu> Ar-Pharazon: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:33] <Ar-Pharazon> Sorry, that was an accident
[14:33] <emilsedgh> oh, sorry then Ar-Pharazon
[14:33] <Ar-Pharazon> I wasn't repeating... Though, since you've answered, any ideas?
[14:34] <emilsedgh> Ar-Pharazon: not really
[14:34] <Ar-Pharazon> =(
[14:34] <PhilRod> see if manual apt-get works
[14:35] <Ar-Pharazon> PhilRod: I don't really know how to do it manually
[14:35] <emilsedgh> yeah, try apt-get Ar-Pharazon, thats easy.run apt-get --help in konsole
[14:35] <PhilRod> go to a terminal, run "sudo apt-get install somepackage"
[14:35] <rockprincess> hi guys and gals! i have a problem with mounting an external hard drive. would anyone mind to help me please? ;)
[14:36] <Ar-Pharazon> It seems to work manually...
[14:36] <Ar-Pharazon> Nope.
[14:36] <Ar-Pharazon> Still stays on 0%... Let me change the server actually
[14:39] <vinboy> how do I make Konqueror to update the left navigation panel's treeview when I change directory on the right panel?
[14:40] <Ar-Pharazon> PhilRod: I can't run adept now. It says someone else is using it, I tell it to resolve the problem and it crashes.
[14:41] <PhilRod> Ar-Pharazon: yeah, you can only have one app at a time accessing the package database. Just kill the apt-get process with Ctrl+C
[14:42] <Ar-Pharazon> PhilRod: Kill what? I don't see any other process.
[14:43] <flipstar> Ar-Pharazon: try changing the mirror in adept
[14:43] <flipstar> oh..search in ksysguard for any related process first
[14:44] <emilsedgh> !adeptfix
[14:44] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:44] <emilsedgh> Ar-Pharazon: ^
[14:46] <Ar-Pharazon> Ok Adept is running now, I'm gonna try to change the repository
[14:49] <Ar-Pharazon> Ok, adept is working fine again, thanks everybody.
[14:51] <kevin__mathew> i have got  an acer 4710 laptop and itz audio jack is ni7ot working... can u guys help?
[14:51] <bitbyte> yesterday i let my 7.1 install all of it's updates. one of them failed and now when i try to run adept i get "another process is using the package system"
[14:51] <bitbyte> any ideas how to resolve this?
[14:52] <bitbyte> adept apt-get and dpkg dont appear to be running anywhere
[14:55] <flipstar> !apt-fix | bitbyte
[14:55] <ubotu> bitbyte: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:55] <kevin__> fkfnrebfker
[14:55] <kevin__> gegtrg
[14:55] <kevin__> grtg
[14:55] <kevin__> trgr
[14:55] <kevin__> gv
[14:55] <kevin__> rvr
[14:55] <kevin__> vrt
[14:55] <kevin__> rty
[14:55] <kevin__> t
[14:55] <kevin__> ert
[14:55] <kevin__> fdew
[14:55] <flipstar> kevin__: bored ?
[14:55] <kevin__> fre
[14:55] <kevin__> g
[14:55] <kevin__> tgwtrhyukjiu
[14:55] <kevin__> l
[14:55] <kevin__> k
[14:56] <flipstar> bitbyte: after that maybe run sudo apt-get install -f
[14:57] <flipstar> to fix (missing) depencies for that broken update
[15:00] <b4l74z4r> i have a problem with firefox; when i browse back to the previous page, it doesn't remember where in the page i were so i have to scroll back down again from the top
[15:07] <hackinger> hallo
[15:13] <zefixx> b4l74z4r: opera does remember your scroll-position when browsing back & forth
[15:14] <b4l74z4r> yes, but it keeps crashing in linux
[15:15] <b4l74z4r> i thought all browsers remembered the position until i tried firefox, why would anyone make a browser that doesn't?
[15:16] <kaminix> flac -8 <flacfile> -o <output> will recode a flac file to compression level eight and keep all tags, right?
[15:16] <bitbyte> ah it's regenerating the initrd
[15:16] <bitbyte> i had to fix that too
[15:20] <bitbyte> flipstar thanks that fixed it
[15:22] <bitbyte> interestingly yesterday it wouldnt boot up because the initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic was missing
[15:23] <bitbyte> which i fixed using the live cd
[15:26] <martalli> For some reason, konqueror on one of my machines does not have the google/etc search bar when I am looking at website.  This machine has been upgraded from many versions back, including dapper and the home partition is the same from mandriva...  I figure that there is just a setting somewhere to change, does anyone know where that is?
[15:27] <Jucato> martalli: Settings -> Configure Extensions -> enable the Search bar extension
[15:27] <Jucato> if it's missing, (re-)install the konq-plugins package
[15:28] <martalli> many thanks
[15:28]  * martalli feels smarter (must have been dumb before =)
[15:31] <zefixx> b4l74z4r: i don't know too much about firefox' behaviour, i only use it in case opera doesn't do the job. maybe you can delete your ~/.opera profile manually
[15:31] <zefixx> recent version is 9.27
[15:33] <martalli> My main problem with opera is that the flash plugin just never seems to work.  I have fiddled with it, but since firefox works fine (and konqui except for a brief period with the nsplugin problem), I have little reason to spend much time on it
[15:34] <flipstar> which flash plugin are you using ?
[15:35] <flipstar> martalli: ↑
[15:37] <martalli> flashplugin-nonfree
[15:37] <martalli> However, when I have looked into the opera settings, flash is referred to something like three times
[15:38] <zefixx> agreed. flash sucks
[15:38] <b4l74z4r> the fact that firefox doesnt remember the scroll position of previous pages is really weird
[15:39] <b4l74z4r> if you do a lot of browsing back and forth between lists and list items it's really disabling
[15:39] <Adrien> lu
[15:40] <zefixx> i dislike it to set up ff's mouse-gestures everytime. idk, if it's already available for ff3b yet
[15:40] <flipstar> b4l74z4r: here it does remember..
[15:40] <flipstar> ff3.0b5
[15:40] <zefixx> ok
[15:41] <flipstar> zefixx: this wasnt for you :)
[15:42] <zefixx> nvm, i'm an opera advocate either
[15:42] <flipstar> yes..me too its just faster
[15:42] <martalli> flipstar: Do you have flash working in opera>
[15:42] <flipstar> yes
[15:42] <flipstar> but the adobe one
[15:43] <flipstar>  /dev/shm/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so it says
[15:44] <martalli> but the flashplugin-nonfree is downloaded form the adobe website, right?
[15:45]  * martalli is going to look
[15:45] <Left_Brasil> hi all
[15:46] <Left_Brasil> any 1 have a mx revolution mouse ?
[15:46] <flipstar> martalli: it is called 'install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz'
[15:47] <flipstar> martalli: the flashplugin-nonfree is probably the one from the repos
[15:47] <Left_Brasil> any 1 have a mx revolution mouse ?
[15:48] <martalli> The nonfree package is a script that downloads it from the website.  I do most of my upgrades form the command line, so I have seen it downloading it almost like a wget -v or maybe curl
[15:49] <flipstar> hm right
[15:51] <flipstar> btw im using the beta of opera ..
[15:51] <martalli> from the plugin directory: 7940 -rw-r--r--   2 root root 8115888 2008-04-10 08:45 libflashplayer.so
[15:51] <martalli> Shouldn't that be r-x or rwx
[15:52] <flipstar> -rwxr-xr-x 1 flipstar flipstar 8119784 2008-03-07 20:01 libflashplayer.so
[15:52] <flipstar> in .mozilla/plugins/
[15:52] <martalli> well, maybe that is my problem
[15:53] <flipstar> most probably
[15:58] <luis> hola
[15:58] <luis> aui es en español?
[15:59] <luis> español or english here?
[15:59] <luis> any one here available please i can use some help
[16:00] <luis> alguien disponible porfas necesito ayuda
[16:00] <flipstar> here english, please
[16:00] <luis> fine
[16:00] <luis> can you helpme?
[16:00] <emilsedgh> !es | luis
[16:00] <ubotu> luis: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:00] <flipstar> luis at least we can try :)
[16:00] <luis> yes i notice that already
[16:00] <martalli> !ka | martalli
[16:01] <martalli> !kn | martalli
[16:01] <luis> the thing is that i was doing some upgrade trough konsole
[16:01] <Jucato> martalli: what are you trying to look for?
[16:01] <luis> and i lost the sound
[16:01] <martalli> lol seeing if it tell me the same thing in Kannada, but ka must be a different language
[16:01] <luis> cant hear anything
[16:01] <martalli> Don't recognize the script
[16:02] <flipstar> martalli: ca probably
[16:02] <martalli> luis - Did you check the mixer or alsamixer if this is a server setup?
[16:02] <luis> sodo you have any idea of what i can do to fix it please?
[16:02] <Jucato> martalli: where's Kannada and what language does it use?
[16:02] <luis> i really dont know what r u asking me
[16:02] <tashiro> im want to create a separate partition to store my anime which program is the best
[16:03] <luis> but please just tell me how to get there and fix it
[16:03] <flipstar> luis type 'alsomixer' in a shell and check if the channels are unmuted
[16:03] <flipstar> *alsamixer
[16:03] <luis> you mean nin konsole???
[16:03] <flipstar> right
[16:03] <martalli> Kannada is the language of Karnataka, India (that's where Bangalore is).  I speak the language after having lived there a year and married a giurl from there =)
[16:03] <luis> ok
[16:03] <Jucato> tashiro: GParted or QtParted (although gparted is more up to date)
[16:04] <flipstar> martalli: #ubuntu-ge maybe ?
[16:04] <Jucato> martalli: there's nothing that specific, but I think there's !in
[16:04] <Jucato> !in
[16:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:04] <Jucato> bah no...
[16:04]  * Jucato didn't know about -ge
[16:04] <martalli> kn was write - kn.wikipedia.org ka is apparently Georgian (http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Link_FA/ka/language)
[16:05] <martalli> sp/write/right lol
[16:05] <luis> nothing this is what it appears:
[16:06] <luis> sudo: alsomixer: command not found
[16:06] <flipstar> luis 'alsamixer' ..
[16:06] <flipstar> was a typo before , sorry
[16:07] <zefixx> flipstar: right, flash's working now with 9.50b. just upgraded
[16:07] <luis> ja
[16:07] <luis> somthing appears
[16:07] <luis> some bars
[16:07] <flipstar> zefixx: nice :)
[16:07] <flipstar> luis good..there are all up ?
[16:07] <martalli> There you go, the mixer in its ncurses glory
[16:08] <luis> no
[16:08] <martalli> Great for scaring your cowrokers at work if if you have sudo access
[16:08] <luis> headphone and line jac are not
[16:09] <Jack111> hi
[16:09] <Jack111> could someone help me with qq, none of the im seems to take it, tried kopete, pdgin eva..
[16:09] <luis> the ones that are not up says MM
[16:09] <martalli> Did fixing those settings help?  I wouldn't think headphones should make a difference, unless it is somehow diverting audio out to another jack from your standard green jack
[16:10] <flipstar> Jack111: what's qq ?
[16:10] <Jack111> an im used in china
[16:10] <martalli> luis: You can also hit tab to see more channels, depending on your audio card and driver  in use
[16:11] <luis> no thats why is weird last night sound was just fine, i was listening music but this mornig ....
[16:11] <martalli> MM may be the master or one of the master channels
[16:11] <flipstar> Jack111: pidgin seems to support qq..whats the problem ? doesnt login ?
[16:11] <luis> ok i did and theres a lot of them that are not up
[16:12] <luis> actually just the one that says capture is up
[16:12] <luis> line, cd, mic, video, phone, aux, mix are down and line is red as well
[16:13] <luis> is that wrong?
[16:13] <Jack111> flipstar it says user disconnected operation not permitted
[16:14] <martalli> luis:Just use your arrow keys to go from column to column and raise them all to the top
[16:14] <luis> ok
[16:16] <luis> whats is down is there and it wont come up
[16:16] <luis> none of the ones that are down come up
[16:18] <flipstar> Jack111: can you ping the qq servers? (58.60.9.253 for e.g )
[16:19] <Jack111> flipstar: trying thing is in the pidgin set up it doesnt ask for the qq id number, just for the alias name
[16:20] <flipstar> the username is probably the id
[16:20] <Jack111> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[16:20] <Jack111> flipstar: ok, trying just a sec
[16:26] <Jack111> flipstar: no, i still get the error, and when i ping i get
[16:26] <Jack111> opertion not permittes
[16:28] <flipstar> permission problem in iptables i would say
[16:28] <flipstar> do you have a firewall or so installed ?
[16:28] <Jsn0327> i am trying to run install-mp3 for amarok.  i navigated to the directory /usr/lib/amarok and typed install-mp3 in terminal and it said bash: install-mp3 no such command. I changed the mod to +x and tried again with the same result.  what am i supposed to be typing to run the script?
[16:29] <Jack111> flipstar GUARDDog,what would i need to change?
[16:29] <flipstar> allow ping (if you need it) and the qq ports
[16:30] <vitrolic> try ./ in front of the command jsn0327?
[16:30] <Jsn0327> that gave me the prompt again.  doesn't seem like it did anything.  what does that do?
[16:31] <vitrolic>  ./ in front of the script?
[16:31] <Jsn0327> yes
[16:31] <flipstar> jsn just use tab (for auto completion)
[16:31] <Jsn0327> other people in the forum said that they "ran" this script and it worked. I tried to run it through the run command but i didn't get anywhere there either
[16:32] <Jsn0327> well i opened the install-mp3 up in kate and you can see that it's a bash script.  it just doesn't do anything when u try to run it
[16:33] <Jsn0327> i'm trying to install mp3 support
[16:33] <flipstar> Jsn0327: for mp3 support just install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:33] <martalli> Jsn0327: what flipstar said
[16:33] <martalli> scripts are unnecessary these days
[16:34] <Jsn0327> i installed it. no go
[16:34] <Jack111> flipstar: ok, it is either udp 8000-8001 (enable bidirectional?) or tcp 80-81?which should i go for?
[16:34] <martalli> Are you trying to play an mp3 file on your disk, or some streaming mp3 from a website?
[16:34] <Jsn0327> on my disk
[16:35] <flipstar> Jsn0327: then maybe give the full path in a shell/use autocompletion(tab) and check that it is executeable
[16:35] <martalli> hmmm
[16:35] <flipstar> Jack111: thats very protocol specific..i dont know
[16:35] <Strog> hi peeps, i have an avm usb stick and i have found the link for it but it is not working
[16:36] <Strog> it is a wlan stick
[16:36] <cannon> can somebody remind me what a 404 error is on a webpage?
[16:36] <flipstar> not found
[16:36] <cannon> like the site is down?
[16:36] <flipstar> or file has moved
[16:36] <cannon> k
[16:36] <Strog> everytime i do dhclient wlan0 it tells me that database is sleeping
[16:37] <Jsn0327> when i type /usr/lib/amarok/  then use tab it gives me the error beep the first time.  when i press tab abain it lists the install-mp3 and amarokapp  which are the only things in the directory
[16:37] <flipstar> cannon: no..if you see the page, the server is up :)
[16:37] <flipstar> Jsn0327: then just type 'sh /usr/lib/amarok/install-mp3'
[16:38] <Jack111> flipstar: i think thats not the problem, it still says operation not permitted
[16:38] <Strog> can someone help me here with that?
[16:39] <PhilRod> Strog: exact error message?
[16:39] <flipstar> Jack111: try disbable the firewall for testing
[16:39] <Strog> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[16:40] <flipstar> Jack111: btw you dont really need a firewall..(as long as it is no server or so)
[16:40] <PhilRod> does it try a DHCPDISCOVER first?
[16:40] <Strog> and " No DHCPOFFERS recieved"
[16:40] <Strog> i did that
[16:40] <|jess|> how do i set the screen resolution in xorg.conf? I can't see any resolutions listed in that file.
[16:40] <Strog> and i checked my router it found it and gave the status "registering"
[16:40] <scheuri> I have a problem with sounds after upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10...it always says that the "audio is not available: device is busy ()" (in german: "audio ausgang nicht verfügbar: gerät ist belegt ()"...its an Intel ICH8 82801H audio chip (according to lspci)...in 7.04 it worked...anyone able to show me how I may fix this?
[16:40] <Jsn0327> I think that there is something wrong with the script.  When i type that it pauses for a second and just goes back to the prompt with no error, or anything happening.  When i restart amarok and try to play a file it still says "Amarok can not currently play mp3 files"  when the option to install mp3 support which doesn't work
[16:40] <Strog> meaning that it is working still but nothing
[16:41] <Jsn0327> to change a script to executable, the correct syntax is sudo chmod +x filename right?
[16:42] <flipstar> |jess|: add <Option         "metamodes" "1280x1024 +0+0"> or so in Section Screen see man xorg.conf or so for details
[16:42] <flipstar> Jsn0327: yes but sudo is probably not needed
[16:42] <Strog> i think that the problem lies in the interfaces file
[16:42] <PhilRod> Strog: dhcp is pretty standard - if you can't get a dhcp address, it's probably a genuine network setup problem, rather than a client problem. What dhcp server are you using? Your own, or one provided by your ISP/network admin?
[16:43] <Strog> PhilRod:my own
[16:43] <Jsn0327> what is the best media player for fiesty?
[16:44] <|jess|> flipstar: Thanks. But now, when there is nothing specified in xorg.conf. How do xorg choose resolution? Is there some kind of auto detection?
[16:44] <flipstar> depends on your needs.. i prefer vlc for videos and audacious for music
[16:44] <Jsn0327> ok
[16:45] <flipstar> |jess|: it probably using the maximum value the driver/monitor allows..
[16:45] <Jack111> flipstar: no still user disconnected not allowed operation, but it last longer the connecting preocess
[16:46] <flipstar> Jack111: hm but firewall is surely disbabled ?
[16:46] <PhilRod> Strog: hrm, do you have any other machines getting dhcp addresses from your router? do they work?
[16:46] <Jack111> flipstar: yes
[16:46] <PhilRod> Strog: or do you have a wired interface you could try?
[16:47] <Jsn0327> flip:  when i started audacious it told me that certain features are not compatiable with the current theme engine of kde.  which theme engine do you use?
[16:48] <flipstar> Jsn0327: i had that same message..just ignore it..(thats what i did)
[16:48] <Jsn0327> ok
[16:48] <flipstar> themes are still fine..
[16:48] <martalli> flipstar: I uninstalled 9.27 and installed the opera 9.5 .deb off the opera website and now I'm rick rolling...maybe there's just something defective about the defaults in the ubuntu package
[16:49] <martalli> "never gonna give you up" lol
[16:50] <flipstar> martalli: i dont think so.. i never installed 9.27 ..
[16:58] <dena> I have a laptop on my home network and I want to permanently mount a share. I can mount it with this command: mount -t smbfs -o password = //laptop/share /home/dena/share. Will this always stay mounted even when my laptop leaves and comes back? or do I need to mount it in fstab as well somehow?
[17:03] <martalli> I don't know if that will work, but I wonder that if you put it in ftab, won't you have a password in cleartext and a potential security vulernability?
[17:03] <dena> martalli, there is no password
[17:03] <spiroo> In Konversation, is it possible to setup so I do not have to see when users login, leave server etc?
[17:05] <Jucato> spiroo: sure
[17:05] <spiroo> Jucato: How, I ditd not find the setting?
[17:05] <Jucato> Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Behavior -> Chat Window
[17:05] <martalli> settigns -> configure konversation
[17:05] <Jucato> [ ] Hide Join/Part/Nick events
[17:06] <martalli> shucks, beat me to it
[17:06] <spiroo> Jucato: Thanks :)
[17:06] <Jucato> :P
[17:06] <spiroo> Ah, feels much nicer now :)
[17:07] <spiroo> Jucato: BTW, thanks for your help earlier. They are really helpful in Amarok channel :) I am compiling KDE 4 now from trunk ;)
[17:07] <Jucato> good :)
[17:08] <spiroo> Soon I will be able to compile Amarok2 :D
[17:09] <Jucato> I think you basically just need kdelibs, kdepimlibs, kdebase/workspace. then you're good to go
[17:10] <spiroo> yes, I am doing from a manual, but thanks anyway :)
[17:13] <spiroo> Jucato: BTW, do you know if it is possible to use SVN-apps inside Kubuntu as "default" applications? So I do not have to type into my terminal each time I mean.
[17:14] <Jucato> the techbase guide has some instructions for that I believe
[17:14]  * Jucato hasn't checked it lately
[17:14] <Jucato> I think it just involves setting the correct environment variables
[17:15] <mark_> hi everybody
[17:15] <mark_> what's up?
[17:15] <mark_> I've got some questions
[17:15] <mark_> anybody help a Ubuntu newbie?
[17:16] <mark_> n00b
[17:16] <mark_> whatevah
[17:16] <mark_> you all alseep? or just stingy?
[17:17] <spiroo> Jucato: Okay, will check. Or maybe is it possible to setup the whole KDE4 trunk for an account: Now I have an account kde-devel. If it is possible to overwrite KDE 4.0.3 for the SVN for only that account. and the "stable" one for this account?
[17:17] <mark_> I'm just trying to locate my localhost information
[17:17] <Jucato> !patience | mark_
[17:17] <ubotu> mark_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:18] <mark_> sorry guys
[17:18] <mark_> use to Fedora Core or Slackware
[17:18] <Jucato> what kind of localhost information? the hostname?
[17:18] <mark_> but in class, sure enough, they make us use Ubunto
[17:18] <cannon> hey guys, do you think linux and it's apps will ever stop being open source?
[17:18] <mark_> you just use hostname to change the localhost name, right?
[17:18] <saki> cannon no
[17:18] <Jucato> cannon: 1. no. 2. offtopic :)
[17:18] <cannon> lol
[17:19] <saki> Oh, hello Jucato.
[17:19] <martalli> Also, for general linux questions, #ubuntu often has a lot more people in the channel
[17:19] <Ax-Ax> mark_: you want to change your hostname?
[17:19] <mark_> cannon no, as long as liberaty and freedome have a meaning
[17:19] <mark_> sure Ax-Ax
[17:19] <Jucato> martalli: no. that's not the place for general linux questions either
[17:19]  * cannon feels rather unwelcome
[17:19] <spiroo> ubuntu-offtopic
[17:19] <Jucato> cannon: there are offtopic channels for such discussions
[17:20] <martalli> cannon: no - the gpl cannot be undone, although I suspect if he wanted to, maybe linux could set off on a proprietary fork
[17:20] <cannon> i assumed anything that relates to "linux" would not be off topic ... my appologies
[17:20] <Jucato> spiroo: you don't need to overwrite anything. just install in the user's home directory and set the proper environment variables. the techbase guide should have that info, as well as the sample .bashrc file
[17:20] <spiroo> But in certain circumstances I think it is okay do discuss those things even if it is off topic. :P
[17:20] <cannon> thanks martalli
[17:21] <Jucato> cannon: not really. #kubuntu and #ubuntu are Kubuntu/Ubuntu-specific support channels, for help on how or what to do in Kubuntu/Ubuntu
[17:21] <spiroo> Jucato: Allright :) .bashrc file I already got btw ;) Allright, I guess I just copy and paste it :)
[17:21] <Ax-Ax> mark_: tried editing /etc/hostname?
[17:21] <martalli> OK, jucato's right, I guess I meant for things that would be *buntu agnostic like the localhost name
[17:22] <neville_> Try #linux cannon, if you feel like stirring up trouble :P
[17:22] <Jucato> martalli: how to change the hostname in *buntu does still fall under proper support :)
[17:22] <martalli> the /etc/hosts file says my localhost is 127.0.0.1 and your computer probably says the same thing
[17:22] <mark_> ok, thanks Ax
[17:23] <mark_> so then, disabling the proxy server?
[17:23] <Jucato> martalli: /etc/hostname
[17:23] <martalli> Anyway, I would rather hang out more on #kubuntu and maybe someday Canonical will give KDE more credit
[17:23] <martalli> Jucato: oic
[17:23] <Ax-Ax> but Fluxbox is still the best
[17:23] <Ax-Ax> :)
[17:23] <Jucato> (don't hold your breath... but.. :P)
[17:23] <martalli> sweet bit'o knowledge
[17:24] <mark_> Fluxbox is nice, if you like minimal but I like KDE
[17:24] <mark_> I notice, however, some emulators require gnome
[17:24] <mark_> so I jump back and forth
[17:24] <martalli> Fluxbuntu is really the best buntu for lowend or very old computer IMHO.  I just don't think xfce is all that less demanding than gnome or kde (but maybe I should take that to #ubuntu-flamebait =)
[17:25] <Jucato> or #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:25] <mark_> xfce is a bit less demanding than kde
[17:25] <Jucato> take your pic ;)
[17:25] <mark_> IMHO
[17:25] <mark_> to each their own
[17:25] <mark_> so, say I have a proxy server I need for class
[17:25] <mark_> but I need to disable it at home
[17:25] <mark_> how would I do that under Ubuntu?
[17:26] <martalli> mark_: See http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=650&num=1
[17:27] <The_ManU_212> hi
[17:27] <mark_> thanks martalli
[17:27] <The_ManU_212> i use edgy eft 6.10
[17:27] <The_ManU_212> i wanted to install cineprint
[17:27] <mark_> I tried to google it and got a bunch of crap I didn't need/want
[17:27] <mark_> lol
[17:27] <mark_> go figure
[17:27] <martalli> The_ManU_212: cinepaint?
[17:27] <The_ManU_212> martalli: yes cinepaint
[17:27] <The_ManU_212> sry
[17:28] <martalli> I think that's the package name
[17:28] <The_ManU_212> but is not possible because in the standard sources (i only use them) libgutenprintui1.1 is not available
[17:28] <martalli> You don't have universe and multiverse enabled?
[17:29] <spiroo> http://pastebin.org/29463
[17:29] <Jucato> !find cinepaint
[17:29] <ubotu> Found: cinepaint, cinepaint-data, libcinepaint-dev, libcinepaint0
[17:29] <Jucato> !info cinepaint
[17:29] <ubotu> cinepaint (source: cinepaint): motion picture image painting and retouching tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.22-1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1924 kB, installed size 4912 kB
[17:29] <spiroo> How do I fix that, QT4.4 I mean
[17:30] <Jucato> spiroo: you need qt4.4 (rc) packages...
[17:30] <The_ManU_212> martalli: how to see if it is enabled?
[17:30] <spiroo> Jucato: I know, but where? I thought I just installed 4.4 :D
[17:31] <Jucato> spiroo: you can either just compile (though not install) Qt from Trolltech or qt-copy from SVN (see techbase) or use Riddell's PPA to get packages: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3383
[17:31] <martalli> open adept - then adept menu -> manage repositories
[17:32] <mark_> I still didn't find out how to disable the proxyserver
[17:32] <mark_> that link was booty
[17:33] <martalli> The_ManU_212: You want to click at least the second check "Community-maintained Open Source Software {universe)
[17:33] <spiroo> Jucato: Okay thanks, but shall I "install" it, or compile svn package?
[17:33] <Jucato> spiroo: if you're compiling, you don't need to "make install" at all
[17:33] <astan> anyone using the virtualbox module with DKMS under *buntu?
[17:34] <spiroo> Jucato: Allright, how to do? :P
[17:34] <martalli> Without universe enabled, the amount of software available is a lot less (but keeing only to canonical packages probably increases security).  Ther are always trade-offs
[17:34] <Jucato> spiroo: it's all in the techbase :)
[17:36] <spiroo> No it is not. There is no info how to compile qt 4.4
[17:37] <martalli> The_ManU_212: Did that work for you?
[17:38] <Jucato> spiroo: not Qt 4.4 specifically but qt-copy from SVN.. but the same instructions would apply to vanilla Qt 4.4 from Trolltech, without the patches
[17:38] <The_ManU_212> martalli: i'm unsure which line in my sources list
[17:38] <mark_> so anybody
[17:38] <spiroo> ah okay :)
[17:38] <The_ManU_212> martwould you say which one?
[17:38] <mark_> I had a proxy server setup for class
[17:38] <mark_> at home I need to disable it
[17:38] <mark_> how do I do it?
[17:39] <mark_> I'm new to Ubuntu, so give me some slack
[17:39] <Jucato> spiroo: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Prerequisites
[17:39] <mark_> if this was Fedora or Slackware I'd have it no problem
[17:39] <The_ManU_212> martalli: http://pastebin.com/m4d95b760
[17:39] <The_ManU_212> martalli: is it right that terhe are two lines which mean the same?
[17:44] <spiroo> Jucato: Yea now it works, I installed thrue Riddells PPA
[17:45] <Jucato> just take note his note not to run dist-upgrade
[17:45] <mark_> I guess nobody knows how to?
[17:45] <mark_> oO
[17:47] <jhutchins> mark_: How did you set it up?
[17:47] <Jucato> I certainly don't. otherwise I would have answered
[17:48] <flipstar> no gpg key for riddels ppa ?
[17:48] <jhutchins> mark_: Hello?
[17:48] <spiroo> Jucato: Yes, I probably screwed it up a little. Some broken installations now :D
[17:48] <Jucato> spiroo: which is why I sort of recommended you compiled qt-copy instead...
[17:50] <spiroo> Jucato: I am the lazy man you know :D If someone has done it for you, you take it :D
[17:50] <Jucato> spiroo: that someone presumes you know what you are doing ;)
[17:50] <mark_> oh
[17:50] <farhad_hf> in kde 3.5.8 on kubuntu gutsy: KDE applications can't access to the internet. for example konqueror doesn't open any site. kmail doesn't synchronize gmail. kopete can connect to the irc and other IDs but in irc chats when i click on a link it errors. like this: Could not connect to host http://www.kde.org/. how can i solve this? (sorry for my poor english)
[17:50] <mark_> at setup we setup the proxy server
[17:51] <mark_> I went through the gui apps and couldn't find a damn thing on how to undo it
[17:51] <mark_> and revive it
[17:51] <mark_> that's the important thing
[17:51] <spiroo> Jucato: Life is about to take chances :D Thats why I do the long shot :D
[17:51] <Jucato> spiroo: your life, your choice. :)
[17:51]  * Jucato ->bed();
[17:52] <pag> farhad_hf, just a random guess: turn off knetworkmanager and see if it helps
[17:52] <spiroo> Jucato: Well, I guess I compile and do it manually next time. Works better and you get all errors on the screen.
[17:53] <farhad_hf> pag: wow... it works.. why this happens?
[17:54] <mark_> !ohmy
[17:54] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:54] <pag> farhad_hf, I don't know. I've just noticed, that knetworkmanager is the most common cause to the problems like yours.. It might be some bug in k.n.m. but I'm not sure
[17:54] <mark_> j/k
[17:55] <mark_> thanks guys
[17:55] <mark_> big help
[17:55] <farhad_hf> pag: thanks for help...
[17:55] <mark_> I'll do a google again
[17:55] <mark_> and hope they don't talk about smaba settings
[17:55] <mark_> samba
[17:55] <mark_> blah
[17:55] <mark_> whatevah
[17:55] <pag> farhad_hf, sure, you're welcome :)
[17:55] <mark_> this is wicked suckage right here
[17:56] <mark_> it's like waiting inline for bread and getting number 999 and they just started with 1
[17:56] <mark_> I'd rather just reinstall Fedora Core over Ubuntu
[17:56] <mark_> easier to configure and work with
[17:57] <mark_> easier to be root and do the things you need without typing "sudo" all the freakin' time
[17:57] <mark_> fuck ubuntu
[17:57] <mark_> !ohmy
[17:57] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:57] <mark_> and fuck that message
[17:57] <mark_> I'm out!
[17:58] <kblin> hi folks
[17:58] <kblin> how do I tell knetworkmanager to just ignore my eth0 interface?
[17:58] <spiroo> Is it possible to pause a compiling and continue after I restarted computer?
[17:59] <flipstar> spiroo: probably yes but depends on compiling program
[17:59] <spiroo> flipstar: Okay, just wondering because I wanna quit temporarly.
[18:00] <kblin> I've got a bridge set up for kvm networking, and network manager is just screwing up all of this
[18:01] <farhad_hf> and an other quiestion! i want to get the kde4 source from svn and compile it. i read this page : http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 . and in this page : http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Kubuntu_and_Debian it says to install some recommended packages. when i try to install them aptitude wants to remove some packages like mplayer and smplayer. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63081/
[18:01] <farhad_hf> howto solve this?
[18:01] <flipstar> kblin: maybe you can comment it out in /etc/network/interfaces but im not sure about this
[18:02] <kblin> flipstar: it's network manager screwing things up by starting dhclient, not my interfaces setting
[18:03] <pag> farhad_hf, I'd try with apt-get - it's more straight-forward, which makes the error outputs more clear
[18:04] <flipstar> kblin: cant help you .. i dont use knetworkmanager or similar
[18:05] <pag> kblin, best way to tell network manager to ignore everything is 'killall knetworkmanager'.. so if you don't use it now for anything, I doubt you'll ever will
[18:06] <farhad_hf> pug : its here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63082/ . with apt-get
[18:07] <flipstar> farhad_hf: try sudo apt-get install -f first
[18:08] <kblin> pag: so how do I stop it from starting up on boot?
[18:08] <kblin> pag: I can't see an /etc/init.d/networkmanager or the like
[18:08] <pag> kblin, afaik if you shut it down once, it won't try to reappear
[18:09] <pag> kblin, but if it tries, there's always my favourite: sudo apt-get remove --purge knetworkmanager
[18:10] <flipstar> kblin: you can edit starting of services in systemsettings>advanced>services
[18:10] <farhad_hf> flipstar: it says : E: Couldn't find package first - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63083/
[18:11] <kblin> flipstar: so what start script is it?
[18:11] <flipstar> farhad_hf: try without 'first'
[18:11] <flipstar> kblin: knetworkmanager isnt it ?
[18:11] <The_ManU_212> martalli: i've seen that since edgy multiverse and universe are normally open
[18:11] <The_ManU_212> so that should not be the problem martalli
[18:12] <kblin> flipstar: no such file or directory
[18:12] <farhad_hf> ops! shit! sorry!
[18:12] <flipstar> kblin: go to systemsettings>advanced>services and search there for it
[18:12] <flipstar> farhad_hf: my bad
[18:14] <farhad_hf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63085/
[18:14] <flipstar> farhad_hf: type "sudo apt-get install -f"
[18:15] <farhad_hf> flipstar: ^^^
[18:15] <flipstar> oh
[18:15] <pag> farhad_hf, try 'sudo apt-get install libgif4' might provide some info.. care to give output of that?
[18:15] <Neronious> in adept manager i had a program fail to install now i cant open adept manager at all anymore because it says another process is useing it even after 2 restarts and looking through performance monitor
[18:15] <kblin> flipstar: ok, just adding the interface to /etc/network/interfaces with some bogus data and not setting auto eth0 fixed it
[18:15] <pag> !aptfix | Neronious
[18:15] <ubotu> Neronious: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:15] <flipstar> farhad_hf: okay so the problem is with one of the packages
[18:16] <Neronious> thanks
[18:25] <farhad_hf> flipstar: pag: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63086/
[18:26] <farhad_hf> flipstar: there is somthing... i installed the libungif4g_4.1.4-5_i386 package manually
[18:26] <farhad_hf> flipstar: maybe thats wrong
[18:29] <cannon> can windows read ext3?
[18:29] <jussio1> yes
[18:29] <jussio1> !ext3
[18:29] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[18:34] <arunkale> I just installed flashplugin-nonfree on gutsy, and if i visit any flash site, it still says plugin missing
[18:34] <arunkale> "get the latest version"
[18:35] <arunkale> what do i need to do?
[18:35] <alex__> âñåì ïðèâåò
[18:35] <jussio1> arunkale: which browser?
[18:35] <arunkale> jussio1: firefox
[18:36] <jussio1> alex__: which language you need?
[18:36] <jussio1> arunkale: restarted firefox yet?
[18:36] <arunkale> jussio1: yup
[18:36] <arunkale> whatever site i visit says "click here to get the latest version"
[18:36] <alex__> english or russian
[18:36] <jussio1> arunkale: what are you trying it on?
[18:37] <jussio1> !ru | alex__
[18:37] <ubotu> alex__: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[18:37] <arunkale> which leads me to the adobe page where i can download a tar.gz file of the latest version
[18:37] <arunkale> youtube, vimeo, last.fm, some others.. pretty much any site that uses flash
[18:37] <alex__> sanks a lot!
[18:38] <arunkale> jussio1: do i download the tar.gz file?
[18:38] <arunkale> from the adobe website?
[18:38] <arunkale> how do i install
[18:39] <juhis> Anyone got idea what to do: I'm installing CS:Source from cd with wine and when steam is updating
[18:39] <juhis> i cant see any texts
[18:39] <jussio1> arunkale: you shouldnt have to.
[18:40] <jussio1> juhis: if you get no help here, try: #winehq
[18:40] <cannon> how do i make myself root?
[18:40] <juhis> ok
[18:41] <arunkale> jussio1: i extracted the tar.gz file.. there's a file inside that called flashplayer-installer
[18:41] <arunkale> how do i run it?
[18:41] <jussio1> !root | cannon
[18:41] <ubotu> cannon: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:41] <arunkale> via terminal
[18:42] <jussio1> arunkale: thats not the best way to do it. I would try a restart before that
[18:42] <arunkale> jussio1: there are 2 files -- flashplayer-installer and libflashplayer.so
[18:42]  * cannon gives up!
[18:42] <arunkale> alright, i'll try a restart
[18:42] <jussio1> cannon: why would you need root?
[18:43] <cannon> because am REALLY brassed off with all this permissions tuff
[18:43] <cannon> stuff
[18:43] <arunkale> jussio1: i just restarted x and it still shows the same message
[18:44] <jussio1> arunkale: no, do a full restart.
[18:44] <arunkale> jussio1: should i really have to?
[18:45] <jussio1> arunkale: hang on a sec. how did you install it?
[18:45] <jussio1> arunkale: did you use adept or the command line?
[18:46] <arunkale> jussio1: i just did it via firefox
[18:46] <jussio1> arunkale: please run: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[18:47] <jussio1> arunkale: pastebin the output for me :)
[18:48] <arunkale> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:48] <jussio1> arunkale: and you dont have adept open?
[18:48] <jussio1> gah
[18:49] <arunkale> oh wait
[18:49] <arunkale> i had adept open
[18:49] <jussio1> heh
[18:49] <arunkale> ok i tried the command
[18:49] <arunkale> it says flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version
[18:49] <jussio1> hrm
[18:49] <arunkale> do you know how i can run the script from the tar.gz file
[18:49] <jussio1> wait 1 moment please
[18:49] <arunkale> alright
[18:49] <arunkale> sorry
[18:52] <fernando> hi, does anybody know where the default XF86AudioRaiseVolume action is configured? I want to change it from master volume to PCM volume
[18:52] <jussio1> arunkale: this is really weird. installing it from adobe may fix your problem temporarily, but when updates come things will break, hence my reluctance to do it that way
[18:53] <jussio1> fernando: right click kmix, select masterr channel
[18:53] <arunkale> jussio1: yeah, i figured as much
[18:53] <arunkale> the adobe thing worked
[18:53] <arunkale> i ran the installer script
[18:53] <jussio1> arunkale: ok. we dont support that. :/
[18:54] <arunkale> yeah, i don't know why the regular plugin didn't work though
[18:55] <fernando> ok, thanks!
[18:56] <fernando> do I need to restart KDE? the keyboard still changes headphone
[18:57] <arunkale> how do i install gvim
[18:57] <jussio1> arunkale: what is gvim?
[18:57] <Dekans> arunkale: sudo apt-get install gvim     ??
[18:57] <arunkale> alright :)
[18:57] <Dekans> jussio1: a graphical frontend for vim
[19:03] <fernando> I tried restarting KDE, and the keyboard volume button still controls Headphone volume, not PCM. any idea how to change this? there must be config file mapping XF86AudioRaiseVolume to some dcop kmix command.
[19:04] <arunkale> what photo manager would you recommend?
[19:04] <PhilRod> fernando: could be going via kmilo - is kmilo enabled in system settings->advanced->service manager
[19:04] <PhilRod> arunkale: digikam is very good
[19:05] <arunkale> alright
[19:06] <fernando> kmilo doesn't appear listed there. however, the key works, it just controls the wrong channel.
[19:06] <flipstar> fernando: it is set correct in kmix ?
[19:07] <fernando> yes, I just changed it, and then restarted KDE just in case.
[19:07] <Ar-Pharazon> Can someone please walk me through accessing a shared folder on a winxp desktop from my kubuntu 7.10?
[19:07] <flipstar> you just had to restart kmix..
[19:07] <Ar-Pharazon> I'll be using ethernet
[19:08] <flipstar> !samba | Ar-Pharazon
[19:08] <ubotu> Ar-Pharazon: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[19:09] <Ar-Pharazon> Anyone? Please? It's really a simple operation, I just don't remember the exact commands.
[19:09] <PhilRod> fernando: ok, let's see if we can work out what app is controlling your volume. Is kmix running?
[19:09] <fernando> yes
[19:10] <fernando> when I press the volume up key in the keyboard, the Headhphone slider in kmix moves up
[19:10] <fernando> I also get an indicator bar in the screen telling me the %
[19:11] <PhilRod> ok, try quitting kmix - does the volume key still work
[19:11] <PhilRod> ?
[19:11] <fernando> as soon as I press my keyboard key, kmix comes back, so I think they are wired to each other
[19:12] <fernando> and it's still controlling Headhphone output
[19:12] <DarkriftX> every time i reboot, kaffeine starts.... it didnt do that the first time i booted, and it seems like its loading like stuff does from a prev session (but i never use it). how can i check to see why its loading, and fix it
[19:13] <fernando> interestingly enough, the mute keyboard button controls mute on the PCM channel :-)
[19:13] <PhilRod> DarkriftX: system settings->advanced->session manager
[19:14] <PhilRod> fernando: kmix→mixer→settings→configure global shortcuts. What's listed there?
[19:14] <fernando> everything is listed as NONE (default values)
[19:15] <fernando> I have verified with xev that the keyboard key is issuing the XF86AudioRaiseVolume keycode
[19:15] <PhilRod> can you check again that kmilo isn't running? it really sounds like you have the same setup as me (with kmilo)
[19:15] <fernando> the question is, who's catching that
[19:15] <DarkriftX> ok, ty PhilRod
[19:16] <fernando> there is no kmilo process running (but the kmilo package doesn't include one, though, only libs)
[19:16] <Ar-Pharazon> flipstar: I followed the instructions and it doesn'T work, I don't understand why.
[19:17] <flipstar> Ar-Pharazon: firewall maybe ?
[19:17] <flipstar> i've no idea
[19:17] <fernando> ahh!!!ok my mistake
[19:17] <fernando> Kmilo is listed as running in service manager
[19:17] <fernando> before I was looking in the wrong place (system services
[19:20] <fernando> so, how does kmilo know which channel to use?
[19:20] <Ar-Pharazon> flipstar: on the winxp?
[19:20] <flipstar> both
[19:21] <flipstar> fernando: you select it trough right click->select main channel..
[19:21] <Ar-Pharazon> flipstar: none
[19:21] <flipstar> Ar-Pharazon: any error messages or so ?
[19:22] <Ar-Pharazon> arpharazon@Azat-Laptop:~$ sudo mount -a
[19:22] <Ar-Pharazon> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /192.168.4.1/Downloaded,
[19:22] <Ar-Pharazon>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[19:22] <Ar-Pharazon>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[19:22] <Ar-Pharazon>        dmesg | tail  or so
[19:22] <fernando> Master channel appears to be PCM, but the key still changes headphone, maybe I need to restart something else?
[19:22] <Ar-Pharazon> Not very helpful.
[19:23] <flipstar> fernando: try restart kmilo, kmix or the soundserver ..
[19:23] <flipstar> Ar-Pharazon: it is..mount doesnt recognize the mount type..is it set correct ? in fstab
[19:24] <flipstar> Ar-Pharazon: just compare that with the links posted before
[19:24] <fernando> ok
[19:24] <Ar-Pharazon> flipstar: I uh... Don't understand what you said. Besides, I already copied everything to fstab from the link.
[19:26] <Ar-Pharazon> The way I used to do this before was type ipconfig followed by some IPs into a console and it magically just worked. Can't we do it like that?
[19:26] <Ar-Pharazon> It may have been ifconfig. Or something.
[19:28] <fernando> ok, tried stopping kmilo, and my keyboard became completely unresponsive :-)
[19:28] <flipstar> ouch
[19:28] <flipstar> youre on a laptop ?
[19:28] <fernando> had to restart KDE, and volume still isheadphoen
[19:28] <fernando> nope, a desktop
[19:29] <flipstar> kmilo usally only serves special key's ..
[19:29] <fernando> weird...
[19:29] <fernando> I did a full grep under /usr/share looking for the keybinding, and didn'T find anything. maybe this is hardcoded?
[19:31] <Ar-Pharazon> Please, can someone help me copy some files to winxp from kubuntu 7.10?
[19:32] <fernando> ok, interesting, if I move the slider in the volume task applet, the PCM slider in kmix moves as well
[19:32] <Ar-Pharazon> Please, can someone help me copy some files to winxp from kubuntu 7.10?
[19:32] <flipstar> fernando: maybe you can set it additional in kmix settings>global shortcuts
[19:33] <fernando> this means that "select master channel" controls that
[19:33] <BluesKaj> !patience | Ar-Pharazon
[19:33] <ubotu> Ar-Pharazon: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:33] <fernando> ok, I'll try that
[19:34]  * Ar-Pharazon patiently awaits an answer.
[19:35] <BluesKaj> Ar-Pharazon, now pls describe your XP setup. Is it a partition that beside kubuntu or is it on a differnt pc ?
[19:35] <Ar-Pharazon> BluesKaj: It's a different computer, naturally. Hence the ethernet. =)
[19:36] <DarkriftX> anyone here know how to install a kdm theme? ive tried selecting all files in the archive, and ive tried using the archive (just tried 6 different ones, 4 gave no messages but didnt show up, and one gave error about "this is not a theme archive")
[19:36] <BluesKaj> Ar-Pharazon, do you have samba installed ?
[19:36] <flipstar> Ar-Pharazon: is smbfs installed ?
[19:37] <fernando> ok, setting a global shortcut worked, but I can't use the volume control keys (they still do the other volume), and I don'T have the OSD. but at least is a workaround for now
[19:37] <flipstar> fernando: hm then kmilo seems to be responsible for that
[19:37] <fernando> any way to configure it? I looked at the package's contents, and there seems to be no config file
[19:38] <flipstar> right thats wired
[19:38] <Ar-Pharazon> BluesKaj: I think so. I have a "Samba Shares" icon in remote places.
[19:39] <flipstar> Ar-Pharazon: try sudo apt-get install smbfs
[19:40] <BluesKaj> Ar-Pharazon, is the other pc a remote or on the same LAN ?
[19:41]  * BluesKaj srolls up for more info ...just arrived 
[19:42] <sophy> bonsoir, j essais de compiler les pilotes gspcav pour ma webcam logitech mais j ai "file:///home/sophy/Desktop/gspcav1-20071224.tar.gz
[19:42] <sophy> que faire
[19:42] <NickPresta> !fr | sophy
[19:42] <ubotu> sophy: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:42] <sophy> ok merci
[19:42] <Ar-Pharazon> flipstar: I think it's installed.
[19:42] <flipstar> you sure..?
[19:45] <toyo|desk> hey has anyone had an issue with the ati drivers where the bottom of the screen is black when playing games
[19:45] <toyo|desk> ?
[19:46] <toyo|desk> like warsow or secondlife
[19:47] <BluesKaj> Ar-Pharazon, this tutorial site works for kubuntu gutsy to windows and windows to kubuntu using samba, http://kubuntuguide.org/Gutsy#Filesharing
[19:48] <toyo|desk> and I am not sure what version of the ati driver I have
[19:49] <Ar-Pharazon> BluesKaj: "NFS for idots"?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> Ar-Pharazon, Samba File Sharing
[19:50] <Ar-Pharazon> BluesKaj: The link you gave me only had another link
[19:51] <Ar-Pharazon> BluesKaj: I clicked it and ended up at a page for connecting two kubuntus
[19:51] <Ar-Pharazon> I need to connect a *kubuntu and a winxp*
[19:52] <leatherdude> what are the pros and cons between using Gnome or KDE?
[19:52] <leatherdude> because i dont know whether to go with ubuntu or kubuntu
[19:52] <adude> does Age of Empires work with wine.
[19:52] <BluesKaj> Ar-Pharazon,  that's odd , it takes me to Samba File Sharing on http://kubuntuguide.org/Gutsy
[19:53] <jtisme> leatherdude I have used both, but kde longer and so I prefer it but both are nice
[19:54] <jtisme> leatherdude, kde does appear to have many more functional programs
[19:54] <adude> leatherdude i used both Gnome and kde
[19:54] <adude> i like the kde better
[19:54] <Ar-Pharazon> BluesKaj: The link you meant to give me was "http://kubuntuguide.org/Gutsy#Samba_File_Sharing"
[19:55] <mariano_> helo
[19:56] <mariano_> hello
[19:56] <Ar-Pharazon> BluesKaj: it's not working, either.
[19:56] <wayneward> after update on kde 3.5.9 ive ended up with system files on my desktop like the root file system
[19:56] <wayneward> any ides how to get rid!!
[19:56] <Ar-Pharazon> The second step fails to find entry for user ...
[19:56] <mariano_> can i ask a question?
[19:57] <mariano_> well, thanks a lot
[19:57] <BluesKaj> Ar-Pharazon, dunno what browser you're using, but both of those URLs open the same page
[19:57] <flipstar> wayneward: systemsettings>about me>paths
[19:57] <wayneward> oke  cheers
[19:57] <mariano_> help
[19:57] <wayneward> ill take a look...
[19:58] <wayneward> ah i see   bad bug that!!
[19:58] <mariano_> help
[19:59] <wayneward> whats up??
[19:59] <wayneward> mariano
[19:59] <BluesKaj> Ar-Pharazon, where is the windows pc located ? on you home network or a remote network ?
[19:59] <mariano_> help
[19:59] <wayneward> what is up?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> !ask | mariano_
[19:59] <ubotu> mariano_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:59] <wayneward> mariano_
[19:59] <mariano_> :)
[20:00] <mariano_> i have a problem with koepte
[20:00] <wayneward> ok ..
[20:00] <mariano_> kopete*
[20:00] <mariano_> now i'm updating kubuntu
[20:00] <mariano_> because it's installation have just finished
[20:00] <wayneward> ok that should fix connection problems
[20:00] <wayneward> after update
[20:00] <mariano_> i hoope so
[20:00] <mariano_> it's a crash
[20:01] <wayneward> ye t fixes it
[20:01] <mariano_> and it doesn't connect to mi msn
[20:01] <mariano_> :D
[20:01] <wayneward> it fixes it trust me
[20:01] <mariano_> thnx
[20:01] <wayneward> mine did same
[20:01] <mariano_> :D
[20:01] <mariano_> sorry about my english
[20:02] <wayneward> its ok
[20:02] <wayneward> if it still doent work but it will! u can add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:02] <wayneward> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-kde-3.5.9/ubuntu gutsy main
[20:02] <wayneward> and do apt-get update
[20:03] <mariano_> thnx, the repository
[20:03] <wayneward> and apt-get upgrade
[20:03] <wayneward> this will give you a even newer version of kopete
[20:03] <mariano_> i will add it even if the update works :D
[20:03] <mariano_> :D
[20:03] <mariano_> great
[20:03] <wayneward> failing that apt-get install amsn till you fix it!!!!
[20:03] <mariano_> i hate amsn
[20:03] <wayneward> yes you will get kde 3.5.9 then
[20:03] <mariano_> :D
[20:03] <mariano_> nice
[20:03] <adude> does kopete do irc
[20:03] <wayneward> yes i like kopete
[20:03] <Ar-Pharazon> BluesKaj: sorry, don't mean to be rude but I am in a bit of a hurry
[20:04] <wayneward> no worries
[20:04] <DreadKnight> anyone using kopete for IRC btw?
[20:04] <mariano_> wayneward
[20:04] <mariano_> another question
[20:04] <mariano_> in microsucks
[20:04] <wayneward> yes..
[20:04] <mariano_> y put shortcuts in desktop
[20:04] <mariano_> and i had assigned to it a key
[20:05] <mariano_> like f9 to the commander
[20:05] <wayneward> i dont understand
[20:05] <mariano_> xD
[20:05] <wayneward> sorry
[20:05] <mariano_> so, when i press f9
[20:05] <mariano_> the commander open
[20:05] <wayneward> yes
[20:05] <wayneward> i see
[20:05] <mariano_> can i do the same with console?
[20:05] <wayneward> you can do this in kcontrol
[20:05] <mariano_> kcontrol?
[20:05] <mariano_> great
[20:06] <wayneward> console short cuts
[20:06] <BluesKaj> Ar-Pharazon, you haven't told me whether the windows pc is on a remote network or on a local one like a home or office network that shares the kubuntu box
[20:06] <wayneward> yes you can
[20:06] <flipstar> mariano_: it already is in konueror..
[20:06] <flipstar> just press F4
[20:06] <mariano_> ?
[20:06] <flipstar> *konqueror
[20:06] <mariano_> yes
[20:06] <Ar-Pharazon> BluesKaj: I have a crossover cat5 connectinga winxp desktop and kubuntu laptop. Is that what you were asking?
[20:06] <mariano_> but i want to open
[20:07] <mariano_> console with a shortcut key
[20:07] <flipstar> oh..sure then just right click on konsole in kmenu..there you can set shortcuts
[20:07] <Ar-Pharazon> BluesKaj: It's a home network
[20:08] <mariano_> greay wayneward, with kcontrol i did it
[20:09] <wayneward> ok no worries all the best!!
[20:09] <BluesKaj> Ar-Pharazon, ok so you're on a local network all connected to the same router. Then the instructions on the page that I posted will work .
[20:09] <mariano_> xD
[20:09] <wayneward> er kde is very configurable
[20:09] <mariano_> i know
[20:09] <mariano_> but,
[20:09] <mariano_> it's difficult to know all the "places"
[20:09] <BluesKaj> Ar-Pharazon, i just fixed mine with those instructions , just a few hours ago.
[20:10] <Ar-Pharazon> BluesKaj: What router? There's no router.
[20:10] <mariano_> to made the modification
[20:10] <wayneward> yes i suppose i been uing it since the beggining so i know my way around!!
[20:10] <wayneward> nice when you get it all setup though ey :-)
[20:10] <mariano_> :D
[20:11] <Ar-Pharazon> BluesKaj: I just got a very unhelpful error with them, a few minutes ago.
[20:11] <BluesKaj> Ar-Pharazon,you just have to know what the windows pc's IP address is .
[20:11] <mariano_> does kubuntu gives gifts? like free t-shirts or stickers
[20:12] <mariano_> free pen's :D
[20:12] <Ar-Pharazon> BluesKaj: I do know it.
[20:12] <Ar-Pharazon> BluesKaj: I'm stıck at the add current user part
[20:13] <Ar-Pharazon> *stuck
[20:13] <BluesKaj> mariano_, https://shop.canonical.com/
[20:14] <mariano_> :D
[20:14] <mariano_> thnx
[20:14] <mariano_> d'oh, dollars
[20:14] <mariano_> i'm from argentina
[20:15] <fernando> flipstar: I found it!
[20:15] <BluesKaj> Ar-Pharazon, type your username after  sudo smbpasswd
[20:15] <fernando> kmilo can be configured: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdeutils/kmilo/generic/README?r1=771579&r2=771580
[20:16] <fernando> but it seems that the version shipped with 7.10 is the previous one, that doesn't support it :-(
[20:16] <BluesKaj> Ar-Pharazon, then it' will ask for the password you want to use , you'll type that twice
[20:17] <flipstar> fernando: you probably can upgrade kmilo ..
[20:17] <fernando> I'd need to get sources and recompile
[20:17] <fernando> I don't know if I want to mess up with that at this point
[20:17] <fernando> although it'S small enough,,,
[20:18] <fernando> seems harmless enough to try...
[20:18] <flipstar> no deb's availible ?
[20:18] <fernando> I'll check....
[20:20] <fernando> how do I look for source packages with apt?
[20:22] <flipstar> fernando: there are some deb's in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeutils/
[20:22] <fernando> ok, found one!
[20:25] <stdin> it's not a good idea to install debs from another release
[20:26] <stdin> in fact, it's a very bad idea
[20:27] <fernando> ok, deb didn't work because of dependencies problems...I'll try rebuilding from source...
[20:27] <hydrogen> it works sometimes ;)
[20:27] <hydrogen> oh
[20:27] <hydrogen> and stdin
[20:27] <hydrogen> plz2backport the qt4ruby from hardy
[20:30] <stdin> hmm, I though kdebindings was already backported
[20:32] <The_ManU_212> i can't install cinepaint it says that the dependency of libgutenprintui.1.1 is not possible
[20:32] <The_ManU_212> why?
[20:32] <The_ManU_212> had this never using only standard sources
[20:32] <martalli> The_ManU_212: Did you recently upgrade to a new version of kubuntu?
[20:33] <The_ManU_212> martalli: ah you are still here
[20:33] <martalli> Actually, I just came back
[20:33] <martalli> Did you add the universe repositories?
[20:33] <The_ManU_212> martalli: ehm i've seen that normally on edgy eft universe and multiverse is activbe so that shouldnt be the problem?
[20:34] <martalli> I only have 7.10 and 8.04 running now
[20:35] <martalli> cinepaint may have moved out of the regular canonical repositories to the universe.  It appears to be in universe in the gutsy repo
[20:36] <martalli> I *think* cinepaint was in the universe repos in edgy, too.  However, if you ran automatix or something like that in edgy, the script would have turned on the universe repos
[20:37] <beasty> is there a nested login app for kde ?
[20:37] <martalli> One thing you could *try* is "sudo apt-get install -f" and see if that installs cinepaint for you
[20:37] <adude> how can i find out the version of a application via the command line?
[20:37] <hydrogen> stdin: talk to apachelogger... he fixed it in hardy but its till broken for me in gutsy :(
[20:38] <The_ManU_212> martalli: how to unlock universe via adept?
[20:38] <The_ManU_212> or via nano in console would be more better for me martalli
[20:38] <martalli> go to adept menu -> manage reposiotories
[20:38] <martalli> nano - that's easier
[20:38] <martalli> cd /etc/apt
[20:38] <martalli> sudo nano sources.list
[20:38] <Tyrone> Hi everyone, I've found a bug in java for 7.10 - 8.04
[20:39] <martalli> Go down through and take the "#" out before the repos that are marked universe and multiverse
[20:40] <Tyrone> reported it, but I need to get it working soon, anyone care to check it out? I've got log files from a java console that should be useful
[20:41] <The_ManU_212> martalli: http://pastebin.com/m4d95b760 which all?
[20:42] <martalli> The_ManU_212: Lines 28 and 29
[20:43] <The_ManU_212> thy martalli
[20:43] <martalli> As old as edgy is, doing the backports (lines 38 and 39) might get you some new software (like OOo updates and such)
[20:43] <martalli> universe security updates would be important: 44 and 45
[20:44] <martalli> So, the important ones are 28,29,44, and 45
[20:44] <martalli> The_ManU_212: np
[20:44] <martalli> The_ManU_212: Edgy support is just about up, why not upgrade to the new version?
[20:46] <The_ManU_212> martalli: becasue i'm afraid of that something wouldnt work after that, i made some things in the system to fix things ... dontT KNOW ALL
[20:46] <The_ManU_212> martalli: i will isntall hardy when its out
[20:46] <The_ManU_212> or do you rhink a update would be better?
[20:47] <martalli> The_ManU_212: Sure, I know what you mean.  Kubuntu is worlds better now than it was back in edgy - better wireless support and so on.  Sleep even works on my m1210 with kubuntu hardy beta
[20:48] <The_ManU_212> martalli: ah sounds nice, so i will do it after its release
[20:48] <martalli> The_ManU_212: I would probably wait for the final release and do a fresh install.  You will spend a lot of time trying to upgrade because you have to go edgy->feisty, then feisty->gutsy, then gutsy-> hardy
[20:48] <The_ManU_212> martalli: yes and all my configs are in home?
[20:48] <martalli> As long as you have a separate home partition you should be golden
[20:48] <The_ManU_212> so i can copy home and apste in the new system?
[20:49] <The_ManU_212> martalli: havent a seperate one
[20:49] <martalli> You desktop will probably come up looking like it did back in gutsy
[20:49] <martalli> The_ManU_212: Oh, that's a bummer
[20:49] <ubuntu> Can some one help me to get to the swedish channel_
[20:49] <Tyrone> you can copy the files to another partition, then select it as /home next time
[20:49] <martalli> Do you have a external hard drive? Copy your /home into there.
[20:49] <Tyrone> just repart it
[20:50] <Tyrone> or dumpt to a disk
[20:50] <martalli> ubuntu: type "/join #ubuntu-se"
[20:50] <The_ManU_212> martalli: yes ehm so with my old /home and a list of programs installed via apt it should be easy to get my "old" system, the desktop and the configured programs?
[20:50] <Tyrone> just make sure to get the . hidden files
[20:50] <Tyrone> and pick the same uname and password
[20:51] <martalli> Tyrone: I think if he deltes the .files and .dirs he will lose his email and such.  Do you mean just the .files?
[20:52] <ubunturos> if I upgrade my 6.06 to 8.04 stable (with kde 3.5.9), would it work?
[20:52] <Tyrone> no no, i mean he can copy his /home to a disk or another partition (making sure to get hidden files/dirs), then either choose that partition as the new /home or dump it from a cd once its up
[20:52] <martalli> The_ManU_212: If you halready had a separate /home partition, say your home directory was /home/manu...then on installation you just pick manu as your first user.  The installer will say something like "There is already a /home/manu diorectory, would you like to use that?  Then you are golden
[20:52] <martalli> Tyrone: OIC - I agree
[20:52] <martalli> ubunturos: There is a howto somewhere for upgrading from LTS -> LTS
[20:53] <ubunturos> martalli: but 8.04 is *not* an LTS
[20:53] <ubunturos> martalli: Kubuntu 8.04 is *not* to be precise
[20:53] <Tyrone> yes it is
[20:53] <Tyrone> it is  an lts
[20:53] <martalli> ubunturos: Since you have waited this long, probably better to wait.....you are right about that, but it may work anyway, since it is an LTS release for #ubuntu and the server distro
[20:54] <ubunturos> hmm
[20:54] <martalli> Yeah, it sucks that the better desktop environment gets to play second fiddle to gnome.  Like being cinderella
[20:54] <Tyrone> btw, the beta is rockin' right now, bugs are fixed quickly as we speak. REALY nice. my laptop worked with no tweaks
[20:54] <martalli> Where's our glass slipper?
[20:54] <dwidmann> martalli: indeed
[20:55] <hydrogen> maybe if kde4 wasn't so horrible it would be a LTS :)
[20:55] <hydrogen> such a regression*
[20:55] <NickPresta> that's only KDE 4.0. I suspect KDE 4.1 to be awesome and very usable/etc
[20:56] <dwidmann> hydrogen: still, KDE 3.5 is extremely stable .... I don't see any reason Kubuntu with KDE3 shouldn't be supported for 3 years ...
[20:56] <martalli> KDE4 is not too spiffy for small screens, just like vista it's got enorous toolbars and silly clocks busting out all over
[20:56] <dwidmann> NickPresta: more usable than 4.0 yes, but don't get your hopes up *too* high
[20:56] <Tyrone> the problem with kde is it can be a little fidgety with some gtk apps. ex:, firefox 2 currently can't download everything due to a gtk window id error, and its a k* issue only
[20:56] <hydrogen> dwidmann: Because I have a feeling kubuntu didn't want to commit to such a long time when upstream probably will not
[20:56] <Tyrone> martalli: agreed
[20:56] <The_ManU_212> martalli: hm ok i got 2 new updates now but cinepaint isnt installable
[20:56] <martalli> dwidmann's right.  KDE3 is committed to maintenance of the final release
[20:57] <The_ManU_212> martalli: do you think its because of edgy is old?
[20:57] <martalli> The_ManU_212: What do you get from "sudo apt-get install cinepaint"?
[20:57] <martalli> The_ManU_212: Nah, edgy should be just fine for this
[20:57] <Tyrone> probably some dependency issues
[20:57] <dwidmann> hydrogen, martalli: still a lot of things using KDE3 out there. I don't think it'll be going away anytime soon.
[20:57] <martalli> KDE3 is on commcercial products like SUSE even...
[20:57] <Tyrone> lib versions or somesuch
[20:57] <NickPresta> dwidmann, well, I realize KDE 3.5.X took a while to get to where it is now. I don't expect KDE 4.1 to be the best thing since sliced bread, of course :)
[20:58] <dwidmann> hydrogen, martalli: especially seeing as KDE 4.0 is barebones feature-wise by comparison with KDE3, and very buggy.
[20:58] <The_ManU_212> martalli: http://pastebin.com/m241aca10
[20:58] <Tyrone> *buggy* is a laughable description
[20:58] <martalli> KDE4.1 could be quite nice.  I would say that KDE4 is usable for me..whether it is the holy grail for the computer neophytes as it is billed is another question
[20:58] <The_ManU_212> its german but perhaps you see the problem
[20:58] <Tyrone> more like a termite mound
[20:59] <martalli> The_ManU_212: I know enough Deutsche to get the gist
[20:59] <martalli> The_ManU_212: Here and I thought you were Indian at first =).  Try "sudo apt-get install -f cinepaint"...anyone disagree with trying it?
[21:00] <martalli> "E: Kaputte Pakete" <- I like that phrase
[21:00] <The_ManU_212> martalli: it means destroyed packages
[21:00] <The_ManU_212> is that very bad? is the reason my system or the server?
[21:01] <martalli> Often see that in the beta releases. I think it is something with the server or the sources.list usually
[21:01] <martalli> Post your sources.list to pastebin again
[21:02] <stdin> wouldn't that mean "Broken Package" rather than destroyed?
[21:02] <The_ManU_212> http://pastebin.com/m4d95b760 martalli NOW I HAVE THE SAME BUT WITHOUT # IN THE MENTIONED LINES
[21:03] <martalli> The_ManU_212: Try uncommenting lines 38 and 39.  Maybe the libgutenprintui1.1 was put in the backportslater...
[21:03] <The_ManU_212> stdin: maybe, my english isnt the best but i think the sense is visible
[21:03] <jason__> can anyone look at my site and see if something is working right?
[21:03] <martalli> The_ManU_212: You are making plenty of sense
[21:04] <The_ManU_212> ah ok
[21:04] <The_ManU_212> thx
[21:04] <The_ManU_212> :)
[21:04] <martalli> np
[21:04] <jason__> my site is this: www.productiontube.net
[21:05] <adude> is there some program for desktop effects besides compiz?
[21:05] <martalli> kde4 ;-)
[21:05] <The_ManU_212> martalli: doesnt work is it dangerous to use backports otherwise i would left the without # even if it doenst solve the current problem
[21:05] <martalli> I guess metacity, too,,,but I don't know much about it otherwise
[21:06] <martalli> The_ManU_212: I have never had problems with backport, and in fact I routine enable them.  I'm not a security expert, so I wouldn't claim that everyone should do that, but it is helpful on keeping and older machine relatively up to date on software versions
[21:07] <The_ManU_212> ok thx have to go now cu
[21:07] <martalli> The_ManU_212: Later
[21:07] <Tyrone> jason__: your site is fine, but the graphics on top seem a little blocky. maybe use gimp to aa the text?
[21:10] <jason__> Tyrone, could you click on the 'insider' link?
[21:12] <Tyrone> you have a config error
[21:12] <Tyrone> e500
[21:12] <Tyrone> i do php, am a web dev... I can help out if you want
[21:12] <jason__> that's the problem...that is supposed to be a php file
[21:12] <Tyrone> hmm
[21:12] <Tyrone> is it the only... sec
[21:12] <stdin> can you take this to #kubuntu-offtopic
[21:12] <martalli> jason__: That site would be easier if you just used a cms like joomla or drupal
[21:13] <martalli> its-trail.org <- don't know a bit about php
[21:14] <Tyrone> is your server properly configured for php?
[21:14] <jason__> see, i installed all the correct php packages and apache2 packages and still get an internal error
[21:14] <Tyrone> mime and all
[21:14] <jason__> i never considered MIME
[21:15] <Tyrone> apt-get an ide like geany, and run it. you'll find out quick
[21:16] <jason__> Tyrone, running geany now
[21:16] <Tyrone> i don't have much experience configuring php though, but it sounds like it's not recognising it
[21:17] <Tyrone> it should pipe out some html(unless you need server only stuff, like $server
[21:20] <kazio_> hi all
[21:20] <Tyrone> jason__: I just noticed that apt-get'ing php5 does not install all packages, install php5-cli to get geany to work, and probably some other stuff. Use synaptic to get to it
[21:20] <kazio_> polski kanał?
[21:20] <Tm_T> PhilRod: <3
[21:21] <kazio_> moze ktoś dać namiar?:D
[21:21] <Tm_T> !pl | kazio_
[21:21] <ubotu> kazio_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[21:21] <jason__> Tyrone, okay..thats good to know...would you suggest saying forget it all and going back to php4?
[21:21] <kazio_> thx a lot
[21:21]  * PhilRod removes the hat from atop his ass :-)
[21:21] <Tyrone> php4 worked? thats's a whole other thing then
[21:21] <DarkriftX> anyone here know how to install a kdm theme? ive tried selecting all files in the archive, and ive tried using the archive (just tried 6 different ones, 4 gave no messages but didnt show up, and one gave error about "this is not a theme archive")
[21:21] <Tyrone> gimme a sec, i'll take a look at packages
[21:22] <jason__> yes php4 worked fine..i then upgradrd from edgy to feisty fawn
[21:22] <Coggz> I have a problem with compiling
[21:22] <Tm_T> PhilRod: good to see you here too
[21:22] <Tyrone> you're in fiesty??
[21:22] <jason__> yes
[21:22] <Tyrone> dude, up to gutsy at least... or
[21:22] <jason__> idiotic?
[21:22] <Tyrone> as long as its not a pain
[21:23] <jason__> maybe just go sudo apt-get remove php5 and then install php4?
[21:23] <Tyrone> well, if you have no bugs in gutsy, then its a good thing. lots of nice things since feisty, and the hardy beta is great (11 days now...)
[21:23] <Coggz> make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop.
[21:23] <PhilRod> Tm_T: s;cnr. How're you?
[21:23] <Tyrone> php5 is supposed to be slower anyway
[21:23] <Coggz> what does it mean... how do i fix it?
[21:23] <Tyrone> i never used php4
[21:23] <jason__> Tyrone, won't I have to reinstall apache2 as well?
[21:23] <Tyrone> if it worked, you could
[21:24] <Tm_T> PhilRod: fine danke, though busy in life (I think our chatting might be unwanted noise in this current support pace going on here)
[21:24] <Tyrone> again, i've never configed a web server, but if php4 worked, it should be a bug. or a bad ini file
[21:24] <Tyrone> hey, may as well do it
[21:24] <jason__> k thx
[21:25] <Coggz> any ideas guys?
[21:26] <Tyrone> the makefile is missing some parameters, check the install or readme of the archive
[21:26] <Coggz> kk
[21:27] <Tyrone> jason__: check the  /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini file
[21:28] <Tyrone> something may be botched, if you had php4 before, it may be looking for the older binaries
[21:30] <spiroo> Awesome, the font in every single application has turned into yellowwhite instead of grey :D
[21:30] <spiroo> In the menu top bar I mean M)
[21:33] <Coggz> anyone use Sphinx?
[21:39] <Coggz> anyone at all?
[21:39] <Tm_T> Coggz: for this poll, I answer: no
[21:39] <Coggz> ok, its not a poll, i need asistance
[21:39] <pauljw> lol
[21:40] <jussio1> !anyone | Coggz
[21:40] <ubotu> Coggz: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[21:41] <Coggz> ok, but is rather specific, like did the program work with your voice first time, or did you have to configure?
[21:42] <Coggz> !sphinx
[21:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sphinx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:43] <Coggz> Sphinx is a voice recognition program that launches commands when a matching phrase is heard. It can respond via the Festival engine
[21:46] <Tyrone> hey, can anyone help out with a java bug?
[21:46] <LimCore> Tyrone: #java
[21:47] <Tyrone> thanks, I was looking into devel/bugs
[21:47] <wheay> hello
[21:48] <wheay> just want to ask if there is an expert here with kubuntu?
[21:48] <Tyrone> LimCore: is that on this irc? It keeps telling me I need to be forwarded, and I need an Id
[21:48] <wheay> can somebody help me
[21:48] <LimCore> Tyrone: register self:   /msg chanser register somepasswordhere
[21:49] <LimCore> erm wrong
[21:49] <LimCore> Tyrone: /msg nickserv register somepasswordhere
[21:49] <LimCore> replace somepassword..
[21:49] <Tyrone> ah.. long time since i've been on irc. lol
[21:49] <LimCore> it's only on Freenode
[21:52] <mariano> hellow
[21:52] <mariano> wayneward
[21:53] <mariano> are u there?
[21:53] <mariano> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-kde-3.5.9/ubuntu gutsy main
[21:53] <mariano> this repository doesn't work
[21:53] <saki> Why not?
[21:53] <saki> Did you forget to put deb in front of it?
[21:54] <mariano> i have to ? :D
[21:54] <mariano> i will try that
[21:55] <mariano> oh
[21:55] <mariano> i feel so bad
[21:55] <mariano> thank you a lot!
[22:03] <nicco> Just installed Hardy on a laptop. installed restricted extras and nvidia-glx but i can't have my nvidia graphics working. what should i do or look for?
[22:04] <flipstar> if its a new card you might need nvidia-glx-new
[22:04] <flipstar> then check if nvidia instead of nv is mentioned in xorg.conf
[22:05] <flipstar> further look for the right channel #ubuntu+1
[22:05] <jason__> IS anyone here familiar with apache2?
[22:05] <NickPresta> jason__, what seems to be the problem?
[22:06] <jason__> well, when i go to force reload, i get the following error: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name
[22:06] <jason__> it then says it is using 127.0.1.1 for Server Name
[22:07] <nicco> thnks flipstar.   anyway xorg.conf only mentions vesa after a reboot
[22:07] <flipstar> nicco: try to run nvidia-xconfig
[22:08] <nicco> ok flipstar, thanks
[22:08] <NickPresta> jason__, are you using a domain name or is this for local testing and such?
[22:09] <jason__> NickPresta, would you like me to copy my apache.conf in a pastebin?  my website is productiontube.net.
[22:09] <NickPresta> add productiontube.net as the server name
[22:09] <NickPresta> instead of 127.0.1.1
[22:12] <jason__> NickPresta, should I add it in apache2.conf or in my sites-enabled.conf?
[22:13] <NickPresta> jason__, to tell you the truth, I'm not sure. I haven't used the repo version of Apache in a few years. I would imagine you would put it in your apache2.conf / httpd.conf.
[22:14] <jason__> NickPresta, thankyou
[22:14] <NickPresta> jason__, I found this forum topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=424573  It may be of use to you, although just changing the ServerName should work fine.
[22:17] <ign0ramus> hi all. anyone having any problems with the flash upgrade from a few days ago?
[22:18] <ign0ramus> specifically, not being able to sign in on flash-based sites?
[22:18] <jussio1> ign0ramus: on hardy?
[22:19] <ign0ramus> gutsy
[22:20] <jason__> NickPresta, thankyou..that did the trick!
[22:20] <kardesler> s.a
[22:20] <MaDeX> whens the new kubuntu out?
[22:20] <ign0ramus> for example: www.live.yahoo.com > sign in > "you must be signed in" > sign in - repeat ad nauseum
[22:20] <NickPresta> jason__, :)
[22:20] <NickPresta> ign0ramus, sounds like a cookie issue
[22:20] <_abbenormal> hello
[22:21] <_abbenormal> is there a way to do vanilla kernels on kubuntu
[22:21] <ign0ramus> nickpresta: that's what i was thinking, too, so i checked all browser settings, and they're ok... can flash cause that problem?
[22:21] <flipstar> _abbenormal: you mean the official kernel on kernel.org ?
[22:21] <NickPresta> I'm not entirely sure. I have all the latest update, AFAIK, and I can sign into Yahoo. Let me try again right now.
[22:22] <_abbenormal> yes the 2.6.24.4 vanilla kernel
[22:22] <NickPresta> ign0ramus, I just signed into live.yahoo.com just fine. *shrugs* I don't know what it could be. Can you sign in with Konqueror?
[22:22] <flipstar> im currently running 2.6.25-rc9 .. so yes
[22:22] <ign0ramus> nickpresta: lemme see...
[22:23] <dwidmann> flipstar: any noteworthy changes between .24 and .25?
[22:23] <pato> MaDeX: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/Beta/Kubuntu
[22:23] <ign0ramus> nickpresta: crap, i forgot i never got flash working in konqueror
[22:24] <ign0ramus> nickpresta: also, it shows me as signed in, but if i want to join a chat, it won't let me chat without "signing in" :/
[22:24] <_abbenormal> can i pm you
[22:25] <NickPresta> ign0ramus, let me give a chat a try
[22:25] <flipstar> dwidmann: only the common..but has some nice features
[22:25] <dwidmann> flipstar: like?
[22:25] <ign0ramus> NickPresta: everything worked until the flash update... otherwise, my config has stayed the same
[22:25] <NickPresta> ign0ramus, I can connect to a chat. Which version of flash are you running?
[22:26] <flipstar> dwidmann: nothing special..little details i found during config :)
[22:27] <jason__> NickPresta, I have installed all the necessary php files, but I still get an internal sevrer error.
[22:27]  * dwidmann gives up asking flipstar and googles for a changelog
[22:27] <flipstar> dwidmann: you just asked for noteworthy :)
[22:27] <flipstar> its faster :)
[22:27] <NickPresta> jason__, do you get the internal server error only when you visit PHP pages or any pages served by Apache?
[22:28] <ign0ramus> NickPresta: Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124
[22:28] <_abbenormal> flipstar, i keep running into vfs errors on boot any ideas
[22:28] <NickPresta> ign0ramus, I'm running Shockwave Flash 9.0 r115. Which repo did you get r124 from?
[22:29] <jason__> only php pages...i even have the lines in my apache2.conf file referring to php uncommented
[22:29] <dwidmann> flipstart? subjectively or measurable with benchmarks?
[22:29] <flipstar> _abbenormal: search for vfs in the config
[22:29] <flipstar> dwidmann: subjectiv .. the boot is faster i think
[22:29] <ign0ramus> nickpresta: dunno- adept updater notified me, and i updated
[22:30] <ign0ramus> NickPresta: screenshot: --> http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot70xt7.png
[22:30] <NickPresta> jason__, I would check the error logs from Apache. The should give some indication of the problem
[22:30] <flipstar> dwidmann: which kernel are you currently running ?
[22:30] <stdin> flash r124 is in hardy
[22:31] <NickPresta> stdin, ah thanks. ign0ramus, I'm on Gutsy. =\
[22:31] <ign0ramus> NickPresta: so am i... how did that happen?
[22:31] <jason__> I'll check my var/log/apache2 log
[22:31] <ign0ramus> NickPresta: should i uninstall flash, and compile from adobe.com?
[22:31] <_abbenormal> is initrd img still used and need when you compile a vanilla kernel
[22:32] <NickPresta> ign0ramus, I don't know how you ended up with r124. I haven't had any experience with using flash from adobe.com. I try to avoid it if possible.
[22:32] <_abbenormal> i dont use one on my other systems running debian
[22:32] <juanc> 04168322620
[22:32] <ign0ramus> NickPresta: ok, what commands do you suggest to purge flash and re-download?
[22:32] <stdin> ign0ramus: you can't compile from adobe anyway, it's binary only
[22:33] <ign0ramus> stdin: you're right, its a .sh installer
[22:33] <dwidmann> Linux spira 2.6.24-15-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Mon Apr 7 18:05:07 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:34] <Coggz> !java
[22:34] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[22:38] <dwidmann> !info bootchart | flipstar
[22:38] <ubotu> flipstar: bootchart (source: bootchart): boot sequence auditing and chart generator. In component main, is extra. Version 0.9-0ubuntu7 (gutsy), package size 97 kB, installed size 192 kB
[22:39] <flipstar> dwidmann: okay.. the standart 2.6.24-15 http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1946/hardy200804103on5.png and the costum http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8093/hardy200804131gg3.png
[22:40]  * dwidmann clicks
[22:40] <Coggz> !java mozilla
[22:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java mozilla - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:40] <Coggz> how do i get java to work in firefox?
[22:41] <tashiro> whenever i try to mount my NTFS partition i get "Permissions denied" any ideas?
[22:41] <tashiro> im totaly clueless
[22:41] <dwidmann> flipstar: appears quite significant, but I'd like to see a redo on the first one - fsck had to run and it looks like that took up a large amount of time.
[22:42] <saki> Can anyone give me a heads up on how to get my network connections either bridged or just share the from one connection to the other?
[22:42] <stdin> !ics
[22:42] <ubotu> If you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[22:43] <jason__> nothing in my error log
[22:45] <Coggz> firefox java anyone?
[22:45] <cannon> !codecs
[22:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:46] <_abbenormal> !kernel
[22:46] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[22:47] <flipstar> dwidmann: i have no other charts for -15 .. only -14 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63116/ but its always the same
[22:48] <flipstar> _abbenormal: problems ?
[22:49] <Coggz> ta
[22:49] <dwidmann> flipstar: interesting. I might compile and see if I can see any results out all, but I doubt it, takes me a bit of time to mount the encrypted root and home.
[22:49] <_abbenormal> yup ive built 6 kernels and not one loads all stop at same error
[22:50] <_abbenormal> im using a config from this system that was used when debian was loaded and ran fine no errors
[22:50] <flipstar> _abbenormal: did you enabled vfat support ?
[22:50] <_abbenormal> no
[22:50] <flipstar> you said this was the error ..
[22:50] <_abbenormal> i dont use windows on this box
[22:50] <_abbenormal> kernel panic- not syncing:VFS:unable to mount root fs on uknown-block(0,0)
[22:51] <dwidmann> flipstar: speaking of which, I need to find a better way to mount my partitions ... guess I should start with unpacking the init image and see how bad I can bang things up :D
[22:51] <flipstar> dwidmann: with initrd a minimal kernel usally gets load into ram..
[22:51] <flipstar> same here becorse of raid
[22:53] <dwidmann> flipstar: indeed, though I believe it's initramfs now, same deal though. loads a minimal kernel so it can run some scripts so you can do pre-mount things mostly.
[22:53] <cannon> what do I need to add to a kubuntu installation to play xvids?
[22:53] <dwidmann> (lvm, raid, encryption, probably more than that too)
[22:53] <_abbenormal> cannon look at codec's
[22:54] <cannon> i did :/
[22:54] <Coggz> !xvid
[22:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[22:54] <cannon> done that >>> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:54] <flipstar> _abbenormal: and the drive is ext3 or so ?
[22:54] <Coggz> !divx
[22:54] <_abbenormal> yup only use ext3 on this box
[22:54] <_abbenormal> my myth box i use xfs
[22:55] <_abbenormal> but this one is ext3
[22:55] <cannon> so what package do I need to add?
[22:56] <_abbenormal> try sudo apt-cache search xvid*
[22:56] <flipstar> _abbenormal: dont know then maybe you disabled some essential..
[22:56] <_abbenormal> try sudo apt-cache search divx*
[22:56] <sourcemaker> can i replace the k-menu with an apple style menu?
[22:56] <sourcemaker> kde 3.5.9
[22:57] <Odd-rationale> _abbenormal: apt-cache does not need sudo... just letting you know
[22:57] <flipstar> sourcemaker: try kooldock :)
[22:57] <cannon> why can't somebody just tell me what to add?
[22:58] <flipstar> cannon: libxvidcore4 probably
[22:58] <cannon> ta
[22:58] <flipstar> cannon: becorse we want you to learn :)
[22:58] <cannon> already installed :(
[22:58] <_abbenormal> sorry im so uase to using sudo command i just do it anymore
[22:58] <BluesKaj> looking for an app called "makeinfo" ..any suggestions where to find it ..seems to be part of a builder/compiler app
[22:58] <cannon> i can't right now ... my meds prevent me
[22:58] <Hawkeye> aiii
[22:59] <cannon> i just want something that works out the box like windows does! :/
[22:59] <Hawkeye> good night all
[22:59] <Odd-rationale> cannon: then use windows... :)
[22:59] <cannon> ok, fine then
[22:59] <_abbenormal> lol
[22:59] <Hawkeye> boa noite a todos
[22:59] <flipstar> BluesKaj: texinfo: /usr/bin/makeinfo
[22:59] <_abbenormal> man tough group
[23:00] <flipstar> BluesKaj: powered by apt-file :)
[23:00] <FFForever> can i convert ubuntu to kubuntu and not have left over crud?
[23:01] <Odd-rationale> FFForever: yes. let me get link...
[23:01] <flipstar> !purekde
[23:01] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[23:01] <BluesKaj> flipstar, i need it to compile an app
[23:01] <Odd-rationale> FFForever: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[23:02] <Hawkeye> hi
[23:02] <flipstar> BluesKaj: you probably need to install texinfo ..?
[23:02] <flipstar> makeinfo is in texinfo
[23:02] <dwidmann> Hmm,  I feel like trying something ... I think I'm going to download the latest Hardy disk and reinstall tomorrow :)
[23:02] <BluesKaj> texinfo
[23:03] <Hawkeye> ,
[23:03] <flipstar> dwidmann: why not just upgrading ?
[23:03] <cannon> now if somebody would have suggested vlc it would have solved all my problems ;)
[23:04] <dwidmann> flipstar: partitioning experiments, as usual :)
[23:05] <dwidmann> flipstar: besides, the alpha CD didn't work for me (not sure if it was the disk or not), so I need to make sure the thing works
[23:05] <flipstar> dwidmann: oh..there is one negative effekt when using the latest kernel and nvidia ..
[23:05] <dwidmann> flipstar: guess I'll probably back up my cache and download a minimal disk
[23:05] <dwidmann> flipstar: do tell?
[23:06] <FFForever> why is the repo running slow i cant get over 200kbps and when i do i get kicked back down
[23:06] <flipstar> its just that the nvidia installer doesnt support it
[23:06] <dwidmann> flipstar: (won't effect my laptop, but my desktop would be hurting bad if I can't get that binary blob working)
[23:06] <flipstar> only the latest beta driver from nvidia
[23:06] <FFForever> most times i run at 60 though :(
[23:06] <flipstar> FFForever: just change the mirror
[23:06] <dwidmann> FFForever: us.archive.ubuntu.com has been very slow for me lately ...... not sure if it's my connection or not :s
[23:07] <flipstar> dwidmann: i had to install trough debootstrap..
[23:07] <FFForever> its a shame i am stuck on 7.04 maybe this next release will fix the bugs.... but i doubt it....
[23:07] <dwidmann> flipstar: now that's a road I haven't been down in a long, long while ....
[23:08] <flipstar> had no choise becorse of my raid.. but was pretty easy :)
[23:08] <dwidmann> flipstar:  not since my adventures in edgy with dmraid ...
[23:08] <ign0ramus> NickPresta: what version of flash are you running?
[23:08] <flipstar> FFForever: are you downloading a distro? then p2p is probably faster
[23:08] <FFForever> flipstar, nah i tend to use apt
[23:09] <FFForever> brb rebooting for kdm and kde :D
[23:10] <flipstar> dwidmann: tmpfs is a cool new feature..but that probably was there before
[23:11] <dwidmann> flipstar: I think I'd heard of it before, sounds familiar anywya
[23:11] <flipstar> haha wikipedia says its since 2.4
[23:11] <flipstar> its like a ram disc
[23:12] <A> todos são BR?
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[23:18] <dwidmann> hmmmm, 173GiB free on my brothers hard drive ... sounds like a plausible backup location.
[23:19] <flipstar> just prevent him from deleting it :)
[23:21] <damien_> Hi guys, I need help - I can't put files on my second HDD
[23:22] <dwidmann> damien_: having trouble mounting it?
[23:22] <damien_> Yes, it says: hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000
[23:22] <Odd-rationale> damien_: nfts?
[23:22] <damien_> I have no clue
[23:23] <DreadKnight> anyone know what's the apt-get command to install build dependencies for a certain application?
[23:23] <Odd-rationale> damien_: can you pastebin the output of "fdisk -l"
[23:24] <damien_> Sure hold on
[23:25] <dwidmann> DreadKnight: apt-get build-dep
[23:25] <damien_> http://pastebin.org/29549
[23:25] <DreadKnight> dwidmann: darn, forgot the - hehe.. thanks man
[23:25] <dwidmann> DreadKnight: no problem
[23:26] <Odd-rationale> damien_: try "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt" then open /mnt with your file browser.
[23:27] <damien_> That's my iPod :|
[23:28] <damien_> The one I need to store files on is the one that's like 150gb
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> oh
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> damien_: is the external hdd plugged in?
[23:28] <tum_> !ipod
[23:28] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[23:28] <dwidmann> flipstar: woo and yay, nfs share setup for dumping my files onto my brothers drive.
[23:28] <damien_> Yes :P
[23:29] <damien_> Er
[23:29] <damien_> It's not external
[23:29] <damien_> It's internal
[23:29] <damien_> Just a second drive
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> damien_: oh. then pastbin "sudo fdisk -l"
[23:30] <damien_> Ok
[23:30] <Odd-rationale> damien_: also, umount your ipod... sorry...
[23:31] <damien_> http://pastebin.org/29550
[23:31] <damien_> How do I umount my ipod
[23:32] <AndreSantos> i have kde 3.5 and kde 4.0 installed with kubuntu. is there a safe way to remove kde 4.0, easily?
[23:32] <Odd-rationale> damien_: did you execute that command I gave first?
[23:32] <AndreSantos> i want to remove all kde 4.0 packages
[23:32] <damien_> "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt"? Yes
[23:32] <Odd-rationale> damien_: the "sudo umount /mnt"
[23:33] <damien_> Didn't see you tell me that one
[23:33] <damien_> I'll do it now
[23:33] <dwidmann> AndreSantos: whether it will be easy or not depends on if you explicitly installed them all or just installed one metapackage that brought in everything else, if the latter,k you can just apt-get remove the metapackage, then run apt-get autoremove
[23:33] <damien_> Need me to pastebin again?
[23:33] <damien_> sudo fdisk -l
[23:33] <damien_> oops
[23:34] <damien_> http://pastebin.org/29551
[23:35] <Odd-rationale> damien_: try "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" then open /mnt with your file browser.
[23:35] <damien_> Okay
[23:35] <damien_> Okay
[23:35] <damien_> Is it safe to delete the files in here?
[23:36] <damien_> Seems I've got an old installation of linux on here
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> damien_: can you see all the files in the drive?
[23:36] <damien_> Yes
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> damien_: yes it is safe to delete files in there.
[23:36] <damien_> Alright, thanks :D
[23:36] <damien_> Uh wait
[23:36] <Odd-rationale> damien_: to un-mount do "sudo umount /mnt"
[23:36] <damien_> When trying to delete, I get this error
[23:37] <damien_> Access denied to /mnt/bin/dash.
[23:37] <Odd-rationale> damien_: need to be root?
[23:37] <dwidmann> it's times like these when I wish my laptop had a gigabit nic :(
[23:38] <damien_> I opened it with konqueror btw
[23:38] <damien_> If that makes any difference
[23:38] <Odd-rationale> damien_: see if you can delete as root
[23:38] <damien_> How would I do that?
[23:40] <Odd-rationale> damien_: sudo rm /mnt/file
[23:40] <damien_> rm: cannot remove `/mnt/file': No such file or directory
[23:41] <damien_> I tried it with another directory also, still not working.
[23:41] <Odd-rationale> damien_: where file == file you want to delete.
[23:42] <Odd-rationale> damien_: e.g. "sudo rm /mnt/mysong.mp3" will remove the mp3 file "mysong.mp3"
[23:42] <Odd-rationale> on the external hdd
[23:42] <damien_> Okay it deleted it, but I'd like to delete all of the files at once
[23:42] <Odd-rationale> damien_: everything?
[23:42] <damien_> Yes
[23:42] <Odd-rationale> damien_: then just reformat.
[23:43] <damien_> I have no idea how to do that in linux
[23:43] <tum_> or rm -r
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> damien_: would you like gui method or cli method?
[23:43] <damien_> GUI
[23:43] <Odd-rationale> damien_: then install qtparted
[23:43] <damien_> Also, I cannot move/create files in this directory, apparently I don't have permissions to do so.
[23:44] <damien_> Alright, I have that already
[23:44] <Odd-rationale> damien_: unmount the drive.
[23:45] <damien_> Okay
[23:45] <damien_> I unmounted and then reformatted
[23:45] <damien_> Do I need to mount it again?
[23:45] <Odd-rationale> damien_: open qtparted and reformat the partition
[23:46] <Odd-rationale> damien_: does it appear in storage media in dolphin or konq
[23:47] <damien_> Sorry, had to do something
[23:47] <damien_> It does, but I cannot do anything with it after I open it
[23:48] <Odd-rationale> damien_: you can't create/move/delete files?
[23:48] <damien_> No
[23:48] <damien_> And after I close qtparted, the files that were there go back
[23:48] <damien_> Oh wait, I didn't press commit. Hold on.
[23:48] <Odd-rationale> damien_: ...
[23:49] <damien_> Sorry :/
[23:49] <Odd-rationale> damien_: make sure it is umounted before comminting.
[23:49] <damien_> It is
[23:50] <damien_> I still cannot create a folder
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> damien_: what error?
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> damien_: are all the files gone though?
[23:50] <damien_> The error from Dolphin is
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> damien_: also, what version of kubuntu?
[23:50] <damien_> Creating of folder /media/sda1/New Folder failed
[23:50] <damien_> Gutsy
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> i think I know what is wrong...
[23:51] <damien_> And what do you mean are all the files gone through?
[23:51] <Odd-rationale> damien_: did reformatting remove all the files? unlike before...
[23:51] <damien_> It removed 2gb or so of them...7gb of them are still on there.
[23:52] <Odd-rationale> damien_: pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" again
[23:52] <damien_> http://pastebin.org/29556
[23:53] <Odd-rationale> damien_: unmount the drive
[23:53] <damien_> umount: /mnt: not mounted
[23:53] <Odd-rationale> damien_: now try "mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1"
[23:54] <damien_> mke2fs 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[23:54] <damien_> mkfs.ext3: Permission denied while trying to determine filesystem size
[23:54] <Odd-rationale> damien_: to umount to "sudo umount /dev/sda"
[23:55] <damien_> umount: /dev/sda: not mounted
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> damien_: sorry try "sudo umount /dev/sda1"
[23:56] <damien_> umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted
[23:56] <Odd-rationale> damien_: now try "sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1"
[23:56] <damien_> Okay, it's doing something.
[23:56] <damien_> Writing inode tables
[23:57] <damien_> Okay, it finished. Now what?
[23:58] <Odd-rationale> damien_: try to open it with a filemanager. with out our mount command.
[23:59] <damien_> Still cannot do anything with it
[23:59] <damien_> "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"
[23:59] <Odd-rationale> damien_: mount it our way...