[12:15]  * asac *yawns*
[12:26] <asac> bug 141230
[12:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 141230 in mozilla-firefox-locale-all "need Ukrainian (uk) packaged" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141230
[14:15] <asac> fta: miro 1.2 takes 6 seconds on first run and 2 seconds on subsequent runs to startup here :)
[14:49] <tymofiy> hi there.
[14:49] <tymofiy> I am looking at ukrainian tralslation of Firefox ans Xulrunner and have a question
[14:50] <tymofiy> why if there is a translation for the string and it is the only suggestion, the line still counts as untranslated?
[14:56] <asac> tymofiy: because its not the real translation
[14:57] <asac> tymofiy: most likely  ... we have some situation where the import could do better so it might even be the real translation
[14:57] <asac> but automatically taking a translation if there is only one suggestion is definitly not right ;)
[14:58] <tymofiy> I as a translator of Fx can confirm that in the cases where there was only one suggestion so far it was right.
[14:58] <asac> hard to explain the detail. has to do with how we try to resolve ambiguities. its doesn't work for all unfortunatley ;)
[14:58] <asac> tymofiy: yeah. but there are cases that are wrong
[14:58] <asac> i found them when confirming th esuggestions for german
[14:59] <tymofiy> ok, the only way is to browse through all of them?
[14:59] <asac> tymofiy: no you can filter "untranslated"
[14:59] <asac> and just do those
[14:59] <tymofiy> look, e.g. "Located in en-US.xpi/en-US.jar!/locale/browser/browser.dtd(reloadCmd.commandkey)"
[15:00] <asac> yes?
[15:00] <tymofiy> in uk in /browser/browser.dtd(reloadCmd.commandkey there is just one value
[15:00] <tymofiy> is there a way to import it into launchpad?
[15:00] <asac> tymofiy: the import is already done
[15:01] <asac> tymofiy: problem is that our import is not yet perfect. this you have to go over it and approve the right suggestions
[15:01] <tymofiy> currently I do not have the right to approve,only to suggest.
[15:01] <tymofiy> can you fix it>
[15:01] <tymofiy> ?
[15:01] <asac> no ... i had to become a german translator by asking the translation team admin
[15:02] <asac> and even the launchpad team had no power to do that gracefully
[15:02] <tymofiy> so I should contact our main translator, right?
[15:02] <asac> tymofiy: write the admins of the uk translation a mail ... CC me
[15:02] <tymofiy> ok.
[15:03] <tymofiy> btw, I filed bugs on Thunderbird and Calendar too
[15:03] <asac> tymofiy: if there are more than one admin for uk ... write to all
[15:03] <tymofiy> i know the guy, thanks :)
[15:04] <tymofiy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/216736
[15:04] <asac> tymofiy: ill review the state of translations mid of week and whitelist those for launchpad import that are good enough
[15:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 216736 in sunbird-locales "missing locale: Ukrainian (uk)" [Undecided,New]
[15:04] <asac> the rest will be using the .xpi's
[15:04] <tymofiy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/216732
[15:04] <asac> but launchpad is good and i'd like to get as many translations out of it
[15:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 216732 in thunderbird-locales "missing locale: Ukrainian (uk)" [Undecided,New]
[15:04]  * asac notes down
[15:05] <tymofiy> thanks, so no action from me needed on Tb, Sb. And the time to square out Fx is til... when?
[15:06] <asac> tymofiy: is there a uk translation for ubufox?
[15:06] <asac> (e.g. did you submit one to saivann when he called for submission)?
[15:06] <tymofiy> I havent done it so there is a good chance there is not.
[15:07] <tymofiy> I just hang out with moz guys, sorry.
[15:07] <tymofiy> can you share a link?
[15:07] <asac> yeah
[15:07] <asac> for what?
[15:07] <tymofiy> ubufox
[15:07] <tymofiy> launchpad translation
[15:07] <asac> ah
[15:07] <asac> won't be in launchpad for hardy
[15:08] <asac> tymofiy: bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Easac/ubufox/main
[15:08] <asac> then add your translation in there and submit either a diff or push the branch to your launchpad account so i can merge
[15:08] <asac> its basically just a locale/ directory
[15:08] <asac> with just a hand full of translatable strings
[15:08] <asac> is that good enough? or do you want me to send you the .xpi?
[15:09]  * tymofiy checks out ubufox
[15:14] <asac> tymofiy: i pushed the latest crack to ubufox branch now ... rev78
[15:14] <asac> no string changes though
[15:15] <tymofiy> how to update in bzr?
[15:15] <asac> tymofiy: just bzr pull
[15:18]  * tymofiy translates into locale/uk-UA directory.
[15:18] <tymofiy> I'll send you a diff
[15:18] <asac> tymofiy: i think just locale/uk would be enough
[15:18] <tymofiy> ok
[15:18] <asac> i think we should use the same code used in upstream translations
[15:18] <asac> howver, now i see that i was not really careful about it
[15:18] <tymofiy> yeah :)
[15:18]  * asac wonders if we have issues for those languages now :/
[15:22] <asac> tymofiy: remember to edit chome.manifest as well when you are done
[15:22] <asac> tymofiy: you can use build.sh to build a .xpi to test
[15:25] <tymofiy> how to submit file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales-ubuntu/index-uk.html  ?
[15:26] <asac> tymofiy: those .properties are not used. at best keep the value that is in en-US
[15:27] <asac> tymofiy: thats an alternative that will point to the right file depending on what language you have selected as default language in ubuntu language selector
[15:27] <tymofiy> I see that other locales localised the two props there.
[15:27] <tymofiy> and in file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/locales/ live localized homepages
[15:27] <asac> tymofiy: yeah. thats superfluous .. won't be used
[15:28] <asac> tymofiy: well ... index-uk.html should be submitted
[15:28] <asac> tymofiy: but that is independent from ubufox
[15:28] <asac> tymofiy: if you remember me tomorrow i give you a clue how to do that
[15:28] <asac> i currently have no idea who really maintains that (well .. i forgot :)
[15:29] <tymofiy> ok.
[15:29] <asac> tymofiy: most likely the translation team lead knows that as well
[15:37] <armin76> hrm...
[15:38] <armin76> does it happen for all that the download finished popup shows up in the taskbar and not in the browser area?
[15:38] <asac> armin76: its a notification
[15:38] <asac> its on the desktop not in the app for me
[15:39] <armin76> yeah...
[15:39] <armin76> any way to change that?
[15:40] <asac> probably, but why change?
[15:40] <armin76> lol
[15:40] <armin76> because i don't get noticed :P
[15:40] <armin76> i'm using kde
[15:40] <armin76> so the taskbar is down
[15:41] <armin76> at the bottom, that is
[15:41] <asac> i have taskbar also down here on gnome
[15:41] <armin76> yeah, but its not big enough, is it?
[15:41]  * armin76 looks
[15:41] <asac> armin76: for me its a notification that pops up _above_ the panel
[15:42] <armin76> yes
[15:42] <asac> e.g. not overlaying the panel ... but stacked on top
[15:42] <armin76> ah, avobe?
[15:42] <armin76> cool, then in kde it doesn't...
[15:42] <asac> its a bubble thing
[15:42] <armin76> on fluxbox its avobe as well...
[15:42] <asac> most likely kde doesn't support libnotification which is used
[15:43] <asac> kde has always been crap imo :-P
[15:43] <asac> and actually kde devs are childish and don't even discuss firefox things here
[15:43] <asac> they appear to think that every kde user will use konqueror
[15:43] <armin76> lol
[15:43] <armin76> well, thing is that ff2 worked fine :P
[15:43] <asac> yeah ... imo its childish
[15:44] <asac> i approached kubuntu folks multiple times about "better kde integration" ... only response i got was "not really important for use"
[15:44] <asac> armin76: yeah ... ff3 now uses libnotification
[15:48] <armin76> asking our kde guy
[15:53] <tymofiy> asac: uk ubufox diff sent to you
[15:54] <armin76> asac: http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/ff3kde.png
[15:59] <shirish> asac: you there m8?
[16:01] <asac> shirish: whats up?
[16:01] <shirish> hey :)
[16:01] <shirish> ok the issue is ff3 crashes many a times due to firebug
[16:01] <asac> armin76: yeah ... a bug in notification impl of kde
[16:01] <shirish> and this is known issue for firebug
[16:01] <asac> shirish: yes, its incompatible with adblock in some way afaik
[16:02] <asac> shirish: and noscript
[16:02] <asac> if you have them try to disable them
[16:02] <shirish> asac: there is also b12 which fixes the issue
[16:02] <shirish> asac: any possibility of getting b12 of firebug into firefox
[16:03] <asac> shirish: who is firebug contact?
[16:03] <asac> on firefox3extension wiki page
[16:03] <asac> there should be an entry
[16:03] <shirish> asac: hang on
[16:03] <asac> if someone updates the bzr branch we can get it in most likely
[16:03] <asac> but hurry ;)
[16:04] <shirish> asac: firebug is by somebody named Joe Hewitt
[16:05] <shirish> asac: http://www.getfirebug.com/releases/firebug/1.1/firebug-1.1.0b12.xpi
[16:06] <shirish> asac: and on firefox addons page https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843
[16:06] <shirish> asac: wasn't jazzva packing the extensions for you guys?
[16:06] <asac> shirish: no
[16:06] <asac> i want to know who is the ubuntu contact
[16:06] <asac> contact him ;)
[16:06] <shirish> the ubuntu contact, okie dokie
[16:06] <asac> maybe its jazzva
[16:07] <shirish> Its somebody named Jared Greenwald
[16:07] <asac> shirish: CC me in your mail
[16:07] <asac> jetsaredim: ^^
[16:07] <asac> update firebug?
[16:07] <shirish> ok will do
[16:07] <asac> fixes crashes ;)
[16:07] <asac> its jetsaredim :)
[16:08] <shirish> asac: still will send the mail, this way its there.
[16:12] <shirish> asac: done :)
[16:22] <asac> thx
[16:22] <asac> shirish: what version is in the archive?
[16:23] <shirish> asac: 1.1.b11
[16:23] <shirish> asac: ah, didn't give the changelog, ok will attach it
[16:28] <asac> shirish: we also need a bug documenting that it crashes
[16:29] <asac> which we can use in changelog
[16:29] <asac> and maybe a diff of the code
[16:29] <shirish> asac: hang on, I'm not that advanced
[16:34] <asac> shirish: leave alone the diff then ;)
[16:34] <shirish> asac: thanx ;)
[16:34] <asac> jetsaredim: can attach it before uploading
[17:49] <fta> hi
[17:50] <fta> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6917/
 fta: do we want to support parallel checkouts?
 i doubt that we want to allow parallel execution in mozclient.mk
[17:52] <fta> what do you mean ?
[17:55] <asac> fta: see what i committed ;)
[17:55] <asac> .NOTPARALLEL
[17:55] <asac> fta: hmm ... i really think that main development happens on 1.2 branch for now
[17:56] <asac> not trunk
[17:57] <fta> ? it's really moving in trunk. the ui has been updated
[17:57] <asac> fta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6918/
[17:57] <asac> thats 1.2
[17:58] <asac> fta: what size does your database have?
[17:58] <asac> /home/fta/.miro/sqlitedb
[17:58] <asac> ß
[17:58] <fta> 19MB
[17:58] <asac> mine is 1117184
[17:58] <asac> maybe that makes the difference?
[17:58] <asac> whats stored in there?
[18:00] <fta> huge hexa strings
[18:13] <fta> asac, why was .NOTPARALLEL needed anyway ?
[18:14] <asac> otherwise the sequence of things would break if you make -j5
[18:14] <asac> for instance
[18:15] <fta> who will ever make -f debian/rules -j5 get-orig-source ???
[18:16] <asac> doesn't matter ;) ... it would break :)
[18:16] <asac> some people have MAKEFLAGS=-j5 set
[18:18] <cheguevara_> my quad xeon server :P
[18:20] <fta> i'm not even sure it will break
[18:20] <fta> but i don't mind
[18:20] <fta> pff miro crashed
[18:22] <asac> fta: $(MOZCLIENT_TARGET): $(MOZ_CLIENT) $(MOZCLIENT_TMP)/$(MOZCLIENT_STAMP) mozclient-checkout mozclient-remove-bin mozclient-pack
[18:22] <asac> that would be executed in parallel
[18:22] <asac> so i guess it falis
[18:22] <asac> like remove-bin without ceckout
[19:04] <fta> miro crashed, again
[19:24] <fta> asac, both ff3 and sm2 crash 100% on http://www.tvsquad.com/2008/04/12/whats-on-tonight-nascar-suze-orman-saturday-night-live/
[19:25] <fta> in flash
[19:26] <fta> sm1 doesn't
[19:26] <asac> fta: null deref?
[19:26] <asac> or no readable stack?
[19:26] <fta> no readable stack
[19:27] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6923/
[19:27] <asac> fta: try without flashsupport please
[19:30] <fta> dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libflashsupport:
[19:30] <fta>  flashplugin-nonfree depends on libflashsupport.
[19:31] <asac> fta: move away libflashsupport.so
[19:31] <asac> somewhere where the runtime linker cannot find it
[19:32] <fta> well, why sm1 is not crashing then ?
[19:32] <fta> it's the same flash setup
[19:32] <asac> broken things can behave different if the code changes outside
[19:33] <asac> fta: please test
[19:33] <fta> the stack is similar with my sm2, which is not using xul sdk
[19:33] <asac> its the same xul though
[19:34] <fta> yes
[19:34] <asac> so makes sense
[19:34] <asac> but please try if libflashsupport contributes to this desaster ;)
[19:48] <fta> yep, it crashes too
[19:53] <asac> ok
[19:53] <asac> also with upstream builds=
[19:53] <asac> let me check
[19:53] <asac> if i see it at all
[19:53]  * asac installs flash
[19:54] <asac> well in fact i don't have that crash
[19:54] <asac> please try b5. maybe its a regressoin
[19:54] <asac> just visit that site?
[19:54] <asac> or do anything?
[19:55] <fta> yep
[19:55] <asac> what yep? regression? or do anything?
[19:56] <asac> or just visit site?
[19:56] <fta> visit the url and wait
[19:56] <asac> ok ... i keep it open
[19:56] <asac> not yet crashed
[19:57] <asac> hehe flashblock ;)
[19:57] <asac> ok restarted with it disabled
[19:57] <asac> nothing
[19:57] <asac> a bunch of flash files playing
[19:57] <asac> but no crash
[19:57] <fta> I don't have any addon in sm2
[19:57] <fta> yet it crashes
[19:58] <asac> fta: can you please check if you see it in  b5?
[19:58] <asac> i don't have any crash here :(
[19:58] <fta> not now, i'm on something else
[19:59] <asac> k
[20:00] <cheguevara_> fta, nvidia driver by any chance?
[20:00] <fta> yes
[20:01] <cheguevara_> its got weird problems
[20:01] <cheguevara_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/212648
[20:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 212648 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "[nvidia-new] a visit to http://www.themareks.com/xf/ in firefox hardy causes X to restart" [Medium,Confirmed]
[20:01] <cheguevara_> like that
[20:02] <asac> i aint have nvidia installed here
[20:02] <asac> cheguevara_: can you reproduce?
[20:02] <cheguevara_> neither do i
[20:02] <cheguevara_> pure intel here :P
[21:26] <asac> Jazzva: hi
[21:28] <Jazzva> asac: Hello ...
[21:28] <asac> :)
[21:28] <Jazzva> I'm merging with ubuntu-dev branch now ... Forgot to commit after merging, and now it's a mess :sighs:...
[21:28] <Jazzva> *now, again...
[21:28] <asac> Jazzva: yay .... merge excersize
[21:29] <Jazzva> Yes :) ... Though, it takes a while while it downloads all the commits :).
[21:30] <Jazzva> And I also had problems with my swap dri
[21:30] <Jazzva> with my swap drive ... Somehow, it got lost from fstab in today's update (I think it was my mistake)... So, I saw what happens when you don't have a swap :)...
[21:32] <asac> Jazzva: hehe? what happens?
[21:32] <asac> how much mem do you have?
[21:33] <Jazzva> BTW, one question before commiting this ... What's the deal with Iceweasel? Do I mention it in desktop files, or not? (It is not mentioned in the XPI.TEMPLATE)
[21:33] <asac> or do you refer to hibernate?
[21:33] <asac> Jazzva: no need to mention that
[21:33] <asac> it just confuses users
[21:33] <Jazzva> 512 MB... It was fun watching my mouse blocking all along .... and then gnome-panel was killed :)
[21:33] <asac> i think we already talke about that the other day ;)
[21:33] <asac> ok ... 512 might deserve some swap
[21:33] <Jazzva> It took a while for Firefox to resume from program bar :)
[21:34] <Jazzva> There's 1GB of swap, just in case :). So, it works fine when it's there... This was a problem (hopefully) I made...
[21:34] <asac> yeah sounds strange that it got wiped from your fstab during upgrade
[21:36] <Jazzva> It replaced my drives in fstab with uuid, so I changed it back to /dev/drive naming... It is possible that I accidentaly erased parts of line for swap drive...
[21:36] <asac> Jazzva: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/ubufox.xpi now opens firefox-2 mime type when run in firefox 2
[21:36] <asac> but i haven't tested at all :)
[21:36] <asac> firefox 2 :)
[21:37] <Jazzva> Ok ... I'll check extensions for that :)... (almost forgot)
[21:37] <Jazzva> I don't think I have firefox 2 :)...
[21:37] <asac> Jazzva: just add the same mime-type with a -2 appended
[21:37] <Jazzva> for few months, now
[21:37] <Jazzva> right
[21:37] <asac> Jazzva: just check if its getting installed in firefox/extensions/
[21:37] <asac> then add it deliberately
[21:37] <asac> no need to test imo
[21:38] <Jazzva> hmm, well I expect most of the extensions are compatible with FF2... (except those FF3 only, like Weave, but we don't have that...)
[21:38] <Jazzva> right?
[21:38] <asac> Jazzva: most likely. however, only those that actually install themself in /usr/lib/firefox/extensions should be added
[21:38] <asac> but i guess those are all
[21:39] <Jazzva> browsing the code ... again :)
[21:44] <Jazzva> BTW, is online code browsing not working again? (at bazaar.lp.net)
[21:47]  * asac looks
[21:47] <asac> Jazzva: yeah ... downish for me too
[21:47] <Jazzva> Whole afternoon it stays at "Waiting for bazaar.launchpad.net..."
[21:48] <Jazzva> damn ... Hmm, downloading the sources :sighs:...
[21:48] <asac> Jazzva: its pretty quick nowadays imo
[21:48] <asac> if you branch through http at least
[21:49] <Jazzva> Hmm, I'm still merging through http :)...
[21:49] <Jazzva> Though, this has a lot of commits. That may be the reason why it's slow
[21:51] <asac> Jazzva: i think the branch still has old format
[21:51] <Jazzva> Oh ... ok
[21:51] <asac> the default format since 1.0 is pack-0.92 ... which is really fast
[21:52] <asac> Jazzva: what does bzr info show you?
[21:52] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6932/
[21:52] <asac> thats a "modern" branch
[21:54] <Jazzva> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6934/
[21:54] <Jazzva> it's different
[21:55] <asac> Jazzva: yeah ... really old thing
[21:55] <asac> not even the one before pack-0.92
[21:55] <asac> ill kick mvo to upgrade that branch
[21:55] <asac> i did that once for other branches ... but apparently he forgot
[21:59] <Jazzva> :)
[22:02] <Jazzva> asac: Can I rely solely on Depends field in debian/control for FF2/FF3 compatibility?
[22:03] <asac> Jazzva: take a quick look at .install and .link files
[22:04] <asac> Jazzva: or simply install the package and check with dpkg -L
[22:04] <Jazzva> And for those prepared with xpi.mk?
[22:05] <asac> Jazzva: they are all in firefox
[22:05] <asac> unless someone overwrites that in rules
[22:05] <Jazzva> Oh, ok :)
[22:05] <asac> Jazzva:
[22:05] <asac> #        MOZ_XPI_MOZILLA_DIRS (DEFAULT=firefox-addons firefox):
[22:05] <asac> thats the option that an extension needs to set in rules ... otherwise it gets installed for ffox 3 and ffox 2
[22:06] <asac> iirc there is no extensoin doing that so far
[22:06] <Jazzva> I'll check debian/control
[22:19] <asac> Jazzva: you want me to help you in some way?
[22:19] <Jazzva> Well, everything is pretty much done...
[22:19] <asac> really?
[22:19] <asac> cool!
[22:19] <Jazzva> I'm just removing the Iceweasel from .desktop files
[22:19] <asac> Jazzva: how many extensions do we have now?
[22:19] <Jazzva> And need to grab the icons from sources
[22:20] <Jazzva> 34
[22:20] <asac> yeah cool
[22:20] <asac> how many ffox 3?
[22:20] <Jazzva> dunno :)... ~30?
[22:20] <asac> thats good
[22:20] <Jazzva> I suppose :)
[22:21] <Jazzva> I think Mozilla team did a great job for this release ;)
[22:21] <Jazzva> FF3, lots of extensions :)...
[22:21] <asac> given how cumbersome it is to figure out sources and licensing
[22:21] <asac> yeah ... i am sure its great ;)
[22:22] <asac> just a little unfortunate that we release like 2 days before RC1 is out
[22:22] <Jazzva> Still can't make myself to e-mail all contributors for better gmail2 to ask for licenses... And I would like to see that pkg in ubuntu :)
[22:22] <asac> would have been better to release RC1 instead of beta 5
[22:22] <asac> from the press side
[22:22] <asac> but hopefully the positive comments willl outweight the negative ones
[22:22] <Jazzva> Hopefully...
[22:23] <asac> but well ... at least there is this reuters link :)
[22:23] <Jazzva> Really? Where :)?
[22:23] <asac> http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN2041266520080320
[22:24] <asac> they declared it ready for prime time
[22:24] <asac> no idea if they did that to be nice to us as they knew that we committed to ship ffox 3
[22:24] <Jazzva> I'll put that biofox is compat with FF3 and wait for the bugreport :). It shows the sidebar, but I have no clue about some DNA sequences it uses, so I can't see if it's really working :)
[22:24] <asac> "In many ways it (Firefox 3) is much more stable than anything else out there," Mozilla Corp Vice President of Engineering Mike Schroepfer said in an interview.
[22:24] <asac> thats worth gold
[22:24] <asac> at least to give backup that ffox 3 is ready for distros inclusion
[22:25] <asac> Jazzva: hehe
[22:25] <asac> yeah ... keep biofox then
[22:25] <Jazzva> reading the article ...
[22:27] <Jazzva> Nice :)..
[22:34] <Jazzva> asac: btw, I'm noticing some little bugs -- imagezoom is also compat with Thunderbird. Is it possible to release a bugfix now?
[22:35] <asac> Jazzva: i don't consider that really important right now
[22:35] <asac> if someone does the update we might think about it
[22:35] <Jazzva> Ok ...
[22:35] <asac> is it just adding it as targetapplication and installing it in proper place?
[22:36] <asac> or do you refer to a "real" bug above
[22:36] <asac> ?
[22:36] <Jazzva> What's the proper place for Thunderbird?
[22:36] <asac> good old place :)
[22:36] <Jazzva> The first ... just need to add it as a target app and install it
[22:36] <asac> thunderbird/extensions/
[22:36] <asac> Jazzva: in xpi.mk just set the variable above to firefox-addons firefox thunderbird
[22:37] <asac> should do the right thing
[22:37] <asac> not in xpi.mk, but rather for xpi.mk style extensions :)
[22:37] <Jazzva> right :)
[22:38] <Jazzva> I'll make a list and fix it these days :)
[22:38] <asac> yeah ... lets push the data first ;)
[22:38] <asac> thats far more important :-P
[22:38] <Jazzva> right
[23:01] <asac> Jazzva: let me know when i can test something ;)
[23:02] <Jazzva> Sure ... I'll commit the desktop files soon, and then the icons, as soon as I sort them
[23:03] <asac> Jazzva: yeah. release often and early :=)
[23:03]  * asac back to translation work
[23:03] <Jazzva> :)
[23:15] <[reed]> asac: yeah, that article exaggerates a bit
[23:20] <Jazzva> Hmm ... My computer just blocked during push, and I restarted it ... Now I'm waiting for lock on server to be removed, so I can push now... *sighs*
[23:20] <asac> Jazzva: run bzr break-lock URL
[23:20] <asac> otherwise this will not go away
[23:21] <asac> [reed]: :)
[23:36] <Jazzva> Hmm, crashed for the second time, on drag'n'dropping an icon to GIMP... :/
[23:37] <Jazzva> asac, have you been asked by shirish about getting Firebug 1.1.0~b12 to archives? He says it solves some crasher bug...
[23:37] <Jazzva> *He/she
[23:38] <Jazzva> I just noticed I have a memo about it...
[23:38] <asac> Jazzva: yeah he send mail to jetsaredim about it
[23:38] <Jazzva> Ok, so it's known :)... good
[23:38] <asac> if he doesn't anwser till lets say tuesday me might do it on our own
[23:38] <asac> but he is ubuntu qa contact, so lets hope :)
[23:39] <Jazzva> We will... as much as I hope I won't run into crashes anymore :).
[23:39] <Jazzva> no more drag'n'dropping ... from now on, only classing right-click -> open with
[23:41] <asac> Jazzva: uninstall firebug :)
[23:42] <asac> or install the .xpi in the net and verify that things really improve
[23:42] <asac> ;)
[23:42] <Jazzva> I don't have it installed :)... This is somethign with Gimp, I suppose
[23:49] <Jazzva> ...and for the third time. I won't edit any more icons before push completes :).
[23:49] <Jazzva> Either my system or Gimp is wrong ...
[23:51] <asac> Jazzva: yeah
[23:51] <asac> Jazzva: maybe run bzr upgrade on your branch
[23:51] <asac> that should make the push quicker
[23:51]  * Jazzva is searching for existing bug report
[23:51] <Jazzva> hmm,ok
[23:51] <asac> at least try
[23:51] <asac> keep a backup :)
[23:51] <asac> Jazzva: ^^
[23:51] <Jazzva> I will