[01:10] <Kodiak`> hi
[01:11] <Kodiak`> I restarted my MythBox and now I can't access the folders such as /videos/ or /music/ over thet network.
[01:20] <Kodiak`> any ideas? anyone?
[01:32] <Kargarian1978> permissions maybe, or network issues/
[01:32] <Kargarian1978> ?
[01:34] <Kodiak`> pretty sure its permissions
[01:34] <Kodiak`> doubt its network, because i can get on mythweb
[01:34] <hti_pro> any devastating bugs arise since I left
[01:35] <Kodiak`> \\Htpc\videos is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. The network path was not found.
[01:36] <hti_pro> what are you using to access it
[01:36] <Kodiak`> my windows XP computer
[01:36] <hti_pro> a samba share
[01:36] <Kodiak`> it worked until i restarted the mythbox
[01:37] <hti_pro> what permisions do you have set in the samba.conf file
[01:37] <Kodiak`> where is that
[01:37] <hti_pro> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:37] <Kodiak`> any specific lines you wanna see?
[01:38] <hti_pro> all lines from config for the share you are having trouble with
[01:38] <Kodiak`> http://pastebin.org/29332
[01:39] <hti_pro> is it all shares or a specific one
[01:39] <Kodiak`> all
[01:39] <hti_pro> and you said it worked fine until reboot, how long before the reboot did you have it running
[01:39] <Kodiak`> weeks
[01:40] <hti_pro> have you tried accessing it using \\hostname\sharenam in windows explorer
[01:40] <Kodiak`> i rebooted because i'm trying to find the loudest part of the mythbox so i can eventually replace it later, so nothing should have changed
[01:41] <Kodiak`> \\Htpc\videos is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. The network path was not found.
[01:41] <hti_pro> can you do a 'net view \\hostname' from the cli
[01:42] <Kodiak`> System error 53 has occured. The network path was not found.
[01:43] <hti_pro> is there anything in the /var/log/samba/[xpmachinename].log or /var/log/samba/[[xpipaddress].log
[01:44] <hti_pro> have you verified that nmbd and smbd are running
[01:45] <Kodiak`> [2008/04/12 14:47:30, 0] printing/pcap.c:pcap_cache_reload(159)
[01:45] <Kodiak`>   Unable to open printcap file /etc/printcap for read!
[01:45] <Kodiak`> thats from log.[xpmachinename]
[01:46] <Kodiak`> how do i check that, hti_pro
[01:46] <hti_pro> ps aux | grep mbd
[01:47] <Kodiak`> http://pastebin.org/29338
[01:48] <hti_pro> nmbd is not running this handles netbios name resolution
[01:48] <hti_pro> try /etc/init.d/samba restart
[01:48] <Kodiak`> http://pastebin.org/29339
[01:49] <hti_pro> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[01:49] <Kodiak`> http://pastebin.org/29341
[01:49] <Kodiak`> alright, we're good
[01:50] <Kodiak`> is there any way to get it to do that every start?
[01:50] <hti_pro> it should do that at every start.   try dmesg | grep mbd
[01:50] <hti_pro> maybe something odd happened this time
[01:50] <Kodiak`> nothing happens if i type that
[01:51] <hti_pro> try grep mbd /var/log/syslog
[01:51] <Kodiak`> nothing
[01:51] <hti_pro> then i have no idea why it didnt work that time,  try rebooting again and make sure it works
[01:52] <Kodiak`> i'm transferring stuff now, but i'll try it in a day or so when the DL is done
[01:52] <Kodiak`> thanks
[01:53] <hti_pro> you might check to make sure there is a file called S##samba in your /etc/rc3.d/ directory
[01:53] <hti_pro> or should i say a link
[01:54] <hti_pro> good luck
[01:56] <hti_pro> anyone know if compiz is a dependencie for something or can i remove it
[02:55] <hti_pro> anyone alive in here
[04:25] <Mersault> What kde package should I install to get all the qt styles?
[05:12] <hti_pro> anybody know why a user would not be able to use sound card but root can
[05:48] <pcglue> the mythbuntu 7.10 "guided installation" formats the entire HD as ext3, is this OK?  is using a separate XFS partition for recordings better?
[07:28] <M_dugger> what the best tuner card for making a home theater PC? I live in the US and I'm after something HD.
[08:15] <superm1> hdhomerun M_dugger :)
[08:15] <superm1> i love my hd home run
[08:15] <superm1> it doesnt steal pci slots from me
[08:15] <superm1> and gives me twice the tuner goodness
[09:18] <M_dugger> hey thanks, I was away
[10:03] <Raspberry> superm1: you're here all day and night, eh?
[10:21] <Raspberry> i'm having an issue with mythtv not taking focus... running on Hardy
[10:22] <Raspberry> no title bar on myth
[10:22] <Raspberry> but I can see background to the left and right... and the panel in xfce on top
[10:59] <sebrock> can I add a suggestion to this project?
[11:02] <sebrock> problem is the lirc-generator. It should include the latest from lirc-CVS. A lot of us have the iMON LCD which is inlcuded in CVS. And making a custom deb for this only takes time...
[11:05] <sebrock> http://lirc.cvs.sourceforge.net/lirc/lirc/drivers/lirc_imon/lirc_imon.c?view=log
[11:06] <Raspberry> what about requesting a package update from the lirc maintainer?
[11:06] <Raspberry> I build my lirc modules from source
[11:06] <sebrock> I would gladly, but how?
[11:06] <Raspberry> glady what?
[11:07] <Raspberry> contact the maintainer or build from source?
[11:07] <sebrock> Raspberry: I tried it but it did not work as I expected with the mythbuntu-lirc-generator
[11:07] <sebrock> well both then :)
[11:07] <Raspberry> I just did it today
[11:07] <Raspberry> and it worked
[11:07] <Raspberry> are you using module assisstant?
[11:07] <sebrock> Raspberry: did you do a deb?
[11:07] <Raspberry> yes
[11:07] <sebrock> the "right" way? can I have it?
[11:08] <sebrock> if you used the CVS that is
[11:08] <Raspberry> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_lirc_install
[11:08] <sebrock> and you used this with mythbuntu?
[11:08] <Raspberry> yes
[11:09] <sebrock> well I followed http://codeka.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=22
[11:09] <sebrock> sort of
[11:10] <sebrock> but that doesnt work as doing the first step will remove mythbuntu stuff
[11:10] <sebrock> if you have a deb can you send it to me?
[11:15] <sebrock> Raspberry: or how do I contact the maintainer?=
[11:16] <Raspberry> look up the package on launchpad.net
[11:16] <Raspberry> then contact the maintainer
[11:18] <sebrock> I try but cant find the maintianer anywhere
[11:19] <sebrock> ah found it
[11:31] <Raspberry> ugh
[11:31] <Raspberry> my myth account just hangs on login
[11:31] <Raspberry> if I restart the machine sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't
[11:31] <Raspberry> if I restart X same thing
[11:32] <Raspberry> I'm going to change to  a gnome sesions
[11:32] <Raspberry> see if that fixes it
[11:33] <sebrock> Raspberry: you using Mythbuntu beta?
[11:34] <sebrock> and did you install the VNC-server?
[11:34] <sebrock> from what I know there is a rather nasty bug in the installation process that causes all kinds of nasty bugs
[11:35] <Raspberry> I migrated
[11:35] <Raspberry> from gutsy to hardy
[11:35] <Raspberry> running the beta
[11:35] <Raspberry> the vnc bug has been fixed
[11:35] <sebrock> ok, I havnt had time to use the beta yet
[11:35] <Raspberry> it doesn't matter which session I run -- myth won't fullscreen
[11:36] <Raspberry> visual effects are set to NONE
[11:36] <MeerkatMafia> hi can i run ubuntu mythtv from livecd without installing?
[11:36] <sebrock> I'm going to check up on my lagging IR device... as soon as I press a button when somethng else is running there is a glitch... like a small break
[11:36] <sebrock> but it doesnt seem to be any IRQ issues... I dont know
[11:37] <sebrock> MeerkatMafia: yes
[11:37] <MeerkatMafia> sebrock, great and this allows me to capture to a device too? or just watch tv
[11:38] <sebrock> Watch tv should be fine I guess... assuming that all devices are OK
[11:38] <MeerkatMafia> ty
[11:38] <sebrock> I dont know how this works when using only RAM though
[11:38] <MeerkatMafia> would it be possible to load mythtv all into ram
[11:39] <sebrock> I suggest installing it anyway... its painfully slow to run from CD all the time
[11:39] <sebrock> MeerkatMafia: that is what happens when you use LiveCD
[11:39] <MeerkatMafia> k
[11:39] <MeerkatMafia> ty
[11:39] <MeerkatMafia> sebrock, but when i use knoppix and some livecds they decompress on the fly
[11:39] <MeerkatMafia> sebrock, rather than loading everything into ram
[11:39] <sebrock> oh you mean loading everything from start?
[11:39] <MeerkatMafia> sebrock, so i didnt know how ubuntu mythtv worked in comparison
[11:40] <MeerkatMafia> knoppix livedvd i mean
[11:40] <sebrock> I think this works the same way, loading on the fly
[11:40] <MeerkatMafia> i would like to boot from cd and load it all into ram
[11:40] <MeerkatMafia> oh ok thanks some livecds work different i suppose
[11:42] <Raspberry> wow
[11:42] <Raspberry> deleting a recording while it's playing hangs myth
[11:43] <Raspberry> I mean deleting by pressing D
[14:01] <a1fa> damn screensaver keeps turning itself on even after i turned it off
[14:03] <a1fa> actually, its not the screensaver
[14:03] <a1fa> video goes out on idle
[14:22] <BobSlob> Anyone know why, when using a dvi-hdmi cable I cant get my TV resolution to display correctly?
[14:22] <BobSlob> I'm going nuts here trying to figure it out =(
[14:22] <a1fa> what tv?
[14:22] <BobSlob> its an LG DLP
[14:23] <a1fa> i had to manually set my resolution
[14:23] <a1fa> go to xorg.conf
[14:23] <a1fa> and remove refresh rate (vert & horiz)
[14:23] <a1fa> and set your resolution manually
[14:23] <a1fa> restart X or reboot
[14:23] <BobSlob> where do i find xorg.conf.... I'm still new =D
[14:23] <a1fa>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:24] <a1fa> you must be root to edit
[14:25] <BobSlob> so under the "monitor" section... delete the horizonal and vertical rates... just leave them blank?
[14:25] <a1fa> completly remove those lines
[14:25] <a1fa> and on the bottom of the file you will see modes
[14:26] <a1fa> remove all the modes except the one you want
[14:26] <BobSlob> the "modeline" lines? or further down?
[14:26] <BobSlob> i dont even see the 720p resolution listed in there =P
[14:28] <a1fa> its not going to be listed as 720p
[14:28] <BobSlob> i know... 1280x720
[14:28] <a1fa> there you go
[14:28] <BobSlob> but thats not even there
[14:28] <a1fa> so ADD IT
[14:29] <a1fa>                 Modes           "1280x720"
[14:29] <a1fa> got it?
[14:30] <a1fa> make sure your TV is on
[14:30] <a1fa> before you start X
[14:30] <a1fa> or it wont go into 720p because
[14:30] <a1fa> xorg is getting monitor information fromt he EDID
[14:30] <BobSlob> yeah, tv is on... its my main "monitor"
[14:31] <a1fa> ok
[14:31] <a1fa> i gave you the instructions, now execute
[14:31] <BobSlob> alright.. guess i need to reboot x... brb =D thanks
[14:32] <a1fa> :P
[14:32] <a1fa> no problem
[14:37] <BobSlob> no go =D
[14:46] <MythbuntuGuest59> Hello. I've got a new intel motherboard (dp35dp), two 500 GB SATA drives and an ATI RADEON 7000 video
[14:47] <MythbuntuGuest59> card
[14:48] <a1fa> whats your question?
[14:48] <MythbuntuGuest59> My problem is I am getting "grub installation failed" with the alternate-amd 8.04 -- sorry, not an IRC pro at all.
[14:49] <MythbuntuGuest59> Is there a general cause for not being able to write to the MBR master boot record?
[14:50] <MythbuntuGuest59> These are new disks and I have not prepared them in any way.
[14:51] <MythbuntuGuest59> I then tried to install the "desktop" -- non-alternate version of Hardy and
[14:52] <MythbuntuGuest59> it brings up the initial selection menu, but when I select the first option, run the live disk, it will appear to be booting and then at then end when it
[14:54] <MythbuntuGuest59> would seem to be finished and ready to change modes --video modes perhaps, I just get a "no signal" on my monitor.
[14:56] <MythbuntuGuest59> That's all I have to offer up. I have not been verifying checksums on these iso's so that's my next step.
[15:02] <MythbuntuGuest59> The iso's I've been getting from direct download are not passing the checksum test, and the torrents are taking forever.
[15:02] <MythbuntuGuest59> I'll report back when I get a good installer!
[15:35] <Karger1978> hello
[15:36] <Karger1978> Anyone seen this error before with a dvd/cdrom drive
[15:36] <Karger1978> [59624.100289] hda: tray open
[15:36] <Karger1978> [59624.100653] hda: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x30  ascq: 0x00
[15:36] <Karger1978> [59624.100657] end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 1028
[15:43] <Karger1978> Hey dave
[15:43] <DaveMorris> I don't suppose Danny Haak is in here?
[15:43] <Karger1978> Have you ever seen this error before with cdrom/dvd drive
[15:43] <Karger1978> [59624.100289] hda: tray open
[15:43] <Karger1978>  [59624.100653] hda: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x02  asc: 0x30  ascq: 0x00
[15:43] <Karger1978>  [59624.100657] end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 1028
[15:44] <DaveMorris> when does this happen?
[15:44] <Karger1978> well i cannot open my cdrom drive
[15:45] <Karger1978> if i got to init 1 this error just repeats
[15:45] <DaveMorris> how are you trying to open it?  Via the button or via an eject command?
[15:45] <Karger1978> just though file manager
[15:46] <Karger1978> then i get [60079.205853] Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 0
[15:46] <Karger1978> so the lines above repeat, then once in a while i get that buffer io error
[15:47] <DaveMorris> is this in hardy/mythbuntu 8.04
[15:47] <Karger1978> mythbuntu 7.10
[15:48] <DaveMorris> what type of media do you have in the drive?
[15:49] <Karger1978> just a dvd movie.
[15:49] <Karger1978> I tried other dvd's and cd's
[15:50] <DaveMorris> and it's the same?
[15:51] <Karger1978> yeah
[15:52] <Karger1978> i used the drive to install the system so i know the drive works
[15:53] <DaveMorris> can you pastebin the output of   dmesg | grep DMA  please
[15:53] <DaveMorris> !pastebin
[15:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[15:53] <Karger1978> i don't get any results
[15:54] <Karger1978> when i do a  dmesg | grep DMA
[15:55] <DaveMorris> hmmm
[15:56] <Karger1978> yeah...
[15:56] <DaveMorris> as root can you try hdparm -d /dev/hda
[15:56] <DaveMorris> that command toggles DMA on/off.  You can check by looking in the man file.  man hdparm
[15:57] <Karger1978> vr@pvr-desktop:/$ sudo  hdparm -d /dev/hda
[15:57] <Karger1978> /dev/hda:
[15:57] <Karger1978>  using_dma     =  1 (on)
[15:57] <DaveMorris> and you've still got the problems?
[15:57] <Karger1978> does it require a restart
[15:57] <DaveMorris> no
[15:58] <DaveMorris> try manually ejecting the drive though and doing it again
[15:58] <Karger1978> yeah the message is still appearing
[15:58] <DaveMorris> I've not seen the problem before you see and just trying to work through the options
[15:58] <DaveMorris> I always eject using the button :)
[15:58] <Karger1978> let me check
[15:59] <Karger1978> humm, that message now stopped
[16:00] <DaveMorris> is it working as expected now then?
[16:00] <Karger1978> no
[16:00] <Karger1978> new message
[16:00] <Karger1978> [61270.548112] Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 278
[16:00] <Karger1978> [61270.548160] Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 279
[16:00] <Karger1978> [61270.548207] Buffer I/O error on device hda, logical block 280
[16:00] <Karger1978> [61274.101777] hda: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[16:00] <Karger1978> [61274.101787] hda: media error (bad sector): error=0x30 { LastFailedSense=0x03 }
[16:00] <Karger1978> [61274.107826] hda: error code: 0x70  sense_key: 0x03  asc: 0x11  ascq: 0x05
[16:00] <Karger1978> [61274.107832] end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 1152
[16:02] <DaveMorris> I've seen similar looking errors with my old CD-ROM drives and I assumed they where hardware failures since they went away with a different drive.  I had loads of old drives so I just threw them away rather than working out where the actual fault was.
[16:03] <Karger1978> humm....
[16:03] <DaveMorris> have you got another Ubuntu based box you could try the drive in?
[16:03] <Karger1978> it's odd, it's possible that this drive is faling
[16:03] <DaveMorris> if you get the same errors in a different box with the drive I'd assume the drive is failing.
[16:03] <Karger1978> yeah, i don't have an ide card, but I do have a PCI Sata card, I guess I could install that and then hook my sats dvd drive to it and see what happens
[16:04] <Karger1978> sorry another ide dvd drive
[16:04] <DaveMorris> you got another PC you could try the ide based drive in?
[16:04] <Karger1978> yeah, its a windows box though
[16:05] <DaveMorris> !ohmy ;)
[16:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy ;) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:05] <Karger1978> i mean it's worth a shot
[16:05] <DaveMorris> yeah, or try a live cd in the drive in the windows box
[16:06] <Karger1978> wife still likes windows, so it will be a good test
[16:06] <Karger1978> command line is not her thing
[16:06] <Karger1978> Thanks for the help, i will give that a shot!
[16:07] <DaveMorris> my g/f uses Ubuntu after using Windows.  She won't touch the command line and gets on fine with it.  After the 1st couple of weeks of "I knew how to do this on Windows"
[16:07] <Karger1978> lol
[16:08] <DaveMorris> just install the windows vista theme and tell her it's vista ;)
[16:27] <Karger1978> hello
[16:28] <Karger1978> Well i swapped drives, now how do i mount the new dvd/cdrom drive
[16:33] <MythbuntuGuest79> Hi. Can anybody help with aspect ratio on mythbuntu 8.04?
[16:51] <ahave> hello room, could someone help me with my setup? I have all of a sudden lost the ability to play mpeg files.. all i get is a full screen of yellow/red noise, yet the 'preview box' appears to be properly showing the video
[17:51] <ahave> can someone explain this error: Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost
[17:51] <ahave> is defined, but isn't attached to a cardinput.
[18:06] <TelnetManta> ahave: have you ran mythtv-setup?
[18:07] <TelnetManta> you have to configure your capture cards and inputs before running the frontend
[18:07] <ahave> TelnetManta, yes. i have had mythtv working for a few weeks now. it all of a sudden did this
[18:08] <ahave> perhaps the error is with VLC? I found the livetv recordings and played them with VLC and the video is still scrambled, yet the audio is there
[18:08] <ahave> the preview box in Media Library will show the video correctly
[18:09] <ahave> hmm, a simple restart fixed the problem
[18:13] <laga> re
[18:14] <laga> Raspberry: hey. have you tried running mythfrontend --reset? thaT'll reset all aperance settings in the frontend
[18:22] <Raspberry> no
[18:22] <Raspberry> I can try that
[18:22] <Raspberry> we worked on it for like 4hrs in here yesterday and nobody mentioned that :p
[18:23] <Raspberry> do I have to close the frontend before running that?
[18:23] <Raspberry> or can I run it and then restart the frontend
[18:24] <Raspberry> vnc is really really flakey in hardy right now :)
[18:25] <superm1> well with the new guidance, it should be fine
[18:25] <Raspberry> it crashes quite a bit
[18:25] <Raspberry> with the new guidance
[18:25] <Raspberry> moving the mouse of mythtv usually crashes
[18:25] <superm1> well i mean once you reconfigure it
[18:25] <superm1> it will disable libvnc4server
[18:26] <Raspberry> the popup / logoff menus crash :D
[18:26] <superm1> and use x11vnc instead
[18:26] <Raspberry> ah
[18:26] <Raspberry> well I'll reconfigure it again rightnow
[18:26] <superm1> (that's what you have to do)
[18:26] <Raspberry> when I ran the mythfrontend --reset
[18:26] <Raspberry> using SSH why did it detect my settings from the remote laptop instead of the local X settings :)
[18:26] <Raspberry> I'll have to run it again w/o -X on my ssh line
[18:27] <Raspberry> hmm
[18:27] <Raspberry> without ssh -X  ... I can't run it remotely
[18:27] <Raspberry> can't connect to display
[18:27] <Raspberry> :)
[18:28] <Raspberry> mythfrontend --reset
[18:28] <superm1> reconfigure vnc and do it via vnc
[18:29] <Raspberry> I don't want to sound like an idiot by explaining all this stuff -- if it's not helpful to explain what I'm doing -- let me know and I'll quit :)
[18:29] <Raspberry> and what I'm finding
[18:30] <Raspberry> yay it makes it past reconfiguring now
[18:31] <Raspberry> it's not crashing ... so far :)
[18:32] <Raspberry> ah... much nicer -- not crashing every 5 sec :)
[18:34] <Raspberry> where's the mythbuntu desktop image located?
[18:34] <Raspberry> nvrmind found it /usr/share/mythbuntu
[18:34] <Raspberry> it's still not full screening it after running a reset
[18:44] <Raspberry> when I check the box to install just mythtv-frontend (on another workstation) it wants to install and configure the backend on THAT workstation
[18:51] <superm1> huh?
[18:51] <superm1> over ssh?
[19:07] <Raspberry> ?
[19:09] <Raspberry> module assistant isn't availabe in hardy?
[19:09] <Raspberry> then how am i running it?
[19:10] <Raspberry> I just checked my fresh hardy install -- it's on there too
[19:11] <Raspberry> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/module-assistant
[19:15] <hti_pro> hey Raspberry flood much
[19:15] <Raspberry> i don't know, do I?
[19:15] <hti_pro> just givin you crap, I just looked at the window and its mostly you
[19:16] <Raspberry> I like to have conversations on IRC -- otherwise I'd just file bug reports :p
[19:16] <hti_pro> :)
[19:16] <hti_pro> thats what keeps things interesting
[19:16] <Raspberry> hti you had a question and I went to respond to you about 9 hrs ago and you'd gone offline
[19:16] <Raspberry> I don't remember what your question was though
[19:17] <superm1> module assistant isn't used for lirc
[19:17] <superm1> it used to be
[19:17] <superm1> now dkms is used
[19:17] <laga> Raspberry: re mythfrontend --reset: close the frontend, run mythfrontend --reset
[19:17] <Raspberry> laga: did that
[19:17] <Raspberry> superm1: lirc is still listed in MA
[19:18] <Raspberry> and it downloaded the correct lirc-module-source
[19:18] <laga> Raspberry: oh.
[19:18] <laga> Raspberry: so it's still broken with a different theme?
[19:18] <superm1> Raspberry, it shouldn't be...
[19:18] <Raspberry> it is -- as of yesterday
[19:18] <superm1> dkms automatically will build the modules though
[19:18] <superm1> so i'm not sure how that's possible
[19:18] <superm1> m-a wants the a special structure
[19:18] <superm1> that isn't in place
[19:18] <hti_pro> Raspberry: i don't remember either
[19:19] <Raspberry> I seem to do the impossible
[19:19] <superm1> well whatever the case may be
[19:19] <superm1> dont use it
[19:19] <Raspberry> laga: yeah with the G.A.N.T theme
[19:19] <Raspberry> superm1: already did ;)
[19:19] <laga> Raspberry: can you attach the output of "xdpyinfo" and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to that ticket?
[19:19] <hti_pro> I have noticed a considerable performance increase by using the Blue theme as opposed to the G.A.N.T.
[19:20] <Raspberry> laga: ok
[19:20] <hti_pro> used to take like 10 seconds between menu screens, now it is almost instant
[19:20] <Raspberry> I used to use the blue theme then I switched to the titivi... whatever ... because it was much more readable and clear on my 4:3 analog tv
[19:21] <Raspberry> blue fonts were too small and not bold enough even when set to big
[19:21] <superm1> yuck i think both of those themes are really tacky for a tv :)
[19:21] <MythbuntuGuest59> Hello! This is my first myth install with new hardware. I've got an intel q6600 cpu and I'm attempting, to put 8.04Beta desktop amd64 (checksum OK) on with the following error:
[19:22] <MythbuntuGuest59> Busybox...(initramfs)
[19:23] <Raspberry> superm1: i'm trying the standard theme now ... the new black one... but the g/f will be the ultimate judge when she gets home from college next week
[19:23] <MythbuntuGuest59> I've looked around and seen different causes from grub install fail to video card probs.
[19:23] <laga> MythbuntuGuest59: hum. well. open a bug report :)
[19:23] <laga> MythbuntuGuest59: if you want, you can try the alternate disk
[19:23] <Raspberry> is the theme change that happened yesterday a change from red highlight buttons to blue highlight buttons on the new standard theme?
[19:24] <laga> MythbuntuGuest59: but it's not clear if the alternate disk works :) i'm going to try it later
[19:25] <superm1> Raspberry, yeah
[19:25] <MythbuntuGuest59> Laga: I've tried the alternate iso and the grub install failed. I have not seen a way around this..some
[19:25] <laga> MythbuntuGuest59: what alternate disk? mythbuntu or ubuntu?
[19:25] <MythbuntuGuest59> some thing to add to the install parameter
[19:25] <MythbuntuGuest59> laga: mythbuntu alternate.
[19:26] <hti_pro> i only have G.A.N.T. and Blue themes right now, I am gonna download all the themes and make my decision later
[19:26] <hti_pro> has anyone else had a prob with the G.A.N.T. theme being slow
[19:27] <hti_pro> I don't understand why the theme should slow it down though
[19:27] <Raspberry> laga: logs have been added
[19:28] <laga> MythbuntuGuest59: maybe the ubuntu alternate disks works better for you. you can then visit www.mythbuntu.org and install mythbuntu on top of tjat
[19:28] <laga> Raspberry: thanks
[19:28] <MythbuntuGuest59> laga: will try ubuntu install. thanks.
[19:31] <hti_pro> hey guys im getting a php error when restarting apache2 with mythweb, what are the php requirements for mythweb
[19:33] <ahave> does anyone know where i can pickup a s/pdif optical bracket? everything i find is out of stock
[19:37] <laga> hti_pro: how did you install it?
[19:37] <hti_pro> with apt-get
[19:38] <laga> hti_pro: on hardy?
[19:38] <hti_pro> yep
[19:38] <hti_pro> :(
[19:38] <laga> hti_pro: what's the php error?
[19:39] <hti_pro> Syntax error on line 106 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mythweb.conf: Invalid command 'php_value', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[19:39] <hti_pro> wait i dont think php mod is enabled
[19:41] <hti_pro> alright, that was it
[19:45] <ahave> where can i find mythvideo settings?
[20:02] <DaveMorris> ﻿when watching liveTV on my frontends, I can watch it, change the channel once, but if I leave it a few mins myth doesn't respond to any keyboard/remote presses (gnome does though such as Alt + F4)  Has anyone else experienced this?  I'm using mythtv packages on Ubuntu Hardy rather than mythbuntu.
[20:13] <hugolp> DaveMorris:  it has happen to me a couple of times since I updated to .21
[20:14] <DaveMorris> ahave the settings are under:
[20:14] <DaveMorris> Utilities/ Setup -> Setup -> Media Settings -> Video Settings
[20:14] <DaveMorris> hugolp: have you worked out whats causing it or filled a bug on it?
[20:14] <ahave> DaveMorris, thanks.
[20:14] <hugolp> no
[20:14] <hugolp> DaveMorris:  no
[20:14] <DaveMorris> It happens every time for me :(
[20:14] <hugolp> because I can not reproduce it, it has only happened twice randomly
[20:15] <DaveMorris> hugolp: you using Mythbuntu or ubuntu ?
[20:15] <hugolp> but if you fill a bug I will add my coment
[20:15] <hugolp> DaveMorris:  Ubuntu
[20:15] <hugolp> Gutsy
[20:15] <SoulBlade> i installed mythbuntu 7.1... upgraded to .21... now i want to go back to .20 since .21 screwed me a bit... compiling from source turned into a nightmare so all i want is an easy way to revert back to .20 w/o having to reinstall mythbuntu.  using synaptic it always wants to put me at .21 even if i do a force version
[20:16] <SoulBlade> is there a quick way for me to just install this stuff - like some aptitude install command
[20:16] <DaveMorris> SoulBlade: uninstall mythtv
[20:16] <DaveMorris> then disable the backport repo's
[20:16] <DaveMorris> then update apt and install the new packages
[20:16] <hti_pro> alright, still haven probs with mythweb
[20:16] <hti_pro> this time i get to the page but it says DB access denied
[20:16] <DaveMorris> do you need more detailed instructions that or do you know how to do it?
[20:17] <SoulBlade> new packages... that doesnt mean .21 right? i want .20
[20:17] <hugolp> SoulBlade:  yes
[20:17] <SoulBlade> i think i can uninstall it no problem.. not sure how to disable the backport repo and update apt
[20:17] <SoulBlade> assuming i can uninstall it through synaptic then i dont have a problem :)
[20:17] <hugolp> if you uninstall mythtv and then remove the backport repositories, the .21 packages wont be accesible to your computer, so it will install .20
[20:17] <SoulBlade> other than the obvious
[20:17] <SoulBlade> ah ok
[20:17] <hti_pro> I have checked the /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mythweb.conf and all credentials are appropriate
[20:18] <hti_pro> also mod_env is enabled
[20:18] <hugolp> SoulBlade:  and I do agree that .21 has some flaws. I shouldnt have updated. I down downgrade becuase Im lazy
[20:18] <hugolp> *dont
[20:18] <hti_pro> do i need to restart mythbackend
[20:18] <DaveMorris> hti_pro: sounds as if you've got the wrong credtials for your mysql database
[20:18] <SoulBlade> hehe i have to downgrade because .21 broke nvidia-legacy support and compiling the fixes branch caused even more problems for me
[20:18] <hti_pro> DaveMorris:  no they are correct
[20:18] <laga> SoulBlade: nvidia-legacy is fixed in hardy
[20:19] <DaveMorris> is mythweb running on a machine which is allowed to connect to the databased?
[20:19] <DaveMorris> eg a backend or frontend
[20:19] <SoulBlade> laga - so you recommend i install 8.04?
[20:19] <hti_pro> DaveMorris: yes it is on the backend.  Originally the password was incorrect and I changed it, now it still dont work
[20:20]  * DaveMorris backscrolls
[20:20] <laga> SoulBlade: not necessarily, but i was just sayin'.. ;)
[20:20] <SoulBlade> ah fair enough
[20:20] <SoulBlade> maybe one day if i get bored
[20:20] <SoulBlade> and have more patience
[20:20] <laga> SoulBlade: ua backport to gutsy will happen in a few days/weeks, but i guess you cant live without mythtv
[20:20] <laga> s/ua/a/
[20:21] <SoulBlade> i kind of want it right now... ive lived w/ it for a while - finally have a bit of time to fix it
[20:22] <SoulBlade> DaveMorris - how do i disable the repos?
[20:22] <hti_pro> wait, let me clear my cache
[20:22] <Solarbaby> I think I could live with out MythTV but I'm not sure I'd want too :)
[20:23] <SoulBlade> i meant w/o
[20:23] <SoulBlade> but yea
[20:23] <hti_pro> nope still denied access
[20:24] <DaveMorris> SoulBlade: the easist way for me to explain is to use the command line:
[20:24] <DaveMorris> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:24] <DaveMorris> find the lines which have `backport' in them and comment them out with a '#' at the front
[20:24] <DaveMorris> then reload the repo list and install via synaptic
[20:25] <hti_pro> is libapache2-mod-auth-mysql a required module
[20:25] <SoulBlade> cool
[20:26] <SoulBlade> i think i found a way to do it in synaptic too through preferences -> distribution ta
[20:26] <SoulBlade> tab
[20:26] <DaveMorris> yeah you can do it in there.  However I don't use so I don't know how it's done
[20:26] <SoulBlade> command line is the proper way... im still a newb
[20:27] <DaveMorris> I tend to use the command line only because I'll update all my machines at once generally, so it's easier to log into them all via ssh and do it on the command line
[20:28] <DaveMorris> people also tend to tell other people how to do stuff on the cli because it's easier than saying click a then b then c and you should see d
[20:28] <SoulBlade> ah makes sense
[20:28] <superm1> i try to guide people through the gui when i write howtos
[20:28] <superm1> because people new to linux shouldn't have to use the command line
[20:29] <superm1> and it really is inhibiting to assume they want to learn
[20:29] <Solarbaby> thats why your my hero
[20:29] <DaveMorris> superm1: yeah I agree with howto's etc, but helping people via IRC ?
[20:29] <hti_pro> i agree that is a lot of extra traffic
[20:29] <superm1> DaveMorris, depends on ther person :)
[20:29] <hti_pro> trying to make sure they are seeing what they should be
[20:30]  * directhex agrees with superm1, avoids gnome-terminal in all his tutorial articles
[20:31] <Solarbaby> anyone have any ruff estimate when a new stable version of ubuntumyth will be available for download?
[20:31] <DaveMorris> Solarbaby: you mean of .21?
[20:31] <Solarbaby> I installed the last cd about a year ago
[20:32] <hti_pro> anyone know where I can look to find out what is going wrong with mythweb
[20:32] <SoulBlade> sweet... mythtv-backend subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139...
[20:32] <SoulBlade> bleh
[20:32] <Solarbaby> DaveMorris: I know every year there should be a new version right?
[20:33] <DaveMorris> mythtv went to .21 around a month ago
[20:33] <Solarbaby> DaveMorris: ok so I missed it.. is it stable?
[20:33] <DaveMorris> mythbuntu/ubuntu will produce a new version every 6 months
[20:33] <DaveMorris> it has a few issues etc
[20:34] <Solarbaby> DaveMorris: would you recommend it? or are the bugs a little too much to deal with?
[20:34] <DaveMorris> however no new development is occurring on .20 anymore, not even bug fixes
[20:34] <DaveMorris> Personally I'd wait a few more weeks for Hardy to be out etc
[20:34] <Solarbaby> DaveMorris: that said..  I have my answer
[20:34] <Solarbaby> DaveMorris: ahhh Thanks!
[20:36] <ahave> i am having trouble with mythvideo, i can not seem to rip a DVD
[20:36] <DaveMorris> Since Hardy is LTS I'm hoping to stick with it for 2 years for my backend so hopefully we'll have some decent support and backports for it :)
[20:37] <ahave> whenever i try to rip an .iso it looks as-if it is attempting to start then brings up a message stating 'no jobsand nothing else to do. You could rip a DVD'
[20:37] <Solarbaby> sweeeet!
[20:37] <superm1> there are a few showstopper bugs right now, but they also affect Ubuntu, so I am under the impression they will be resolved
[20:37] <superm1> most of our stuff (mythbuntu value addons) should be stable though
[20:37] <DaveMorris> superm1: what are they?
[20:37] <superm1> DaveMorris, there is a cx88 bug
[20:37] <Solarbaby> glad to hear all that
[20:38] <superm1> that causes kernel oopsing
[20:38] <a1fa> f0xy
[20:38] <a1fa> foxing screensaver
[20:38] <hti_pro> is there a log file for mythweb
[20:38] <superm1> foxing screensaver?
[20:38] <a1fa> the screensaver keeps turning on, even though its off
[20:38] <DaveMorris> cx88 bug
[20:38] <a1fa> actually, video turns off
[20:38] <a1fa> not even screensaver
[20:39] <DaveMorris> I'm using the cx88_dvb module fine
[20:40] <superm1> DaveMorris, its in cx88-alsa
[20:40] <superm1> in 2.6.24-1{5,6}
[20:41] <DaveMorris> ah I don't use that
[20:43] <SoulBlade> wtf
[20:43] <SoulBlade> everytime it tries to start the mythtv server it seg faults and dumps a core
[20:44] <SoulBlade> and then it can't do anything because mythtv depends on backend running
[20:45] <DaveMorris> SoulBlade: which version are you running?  What do the logs say?
[20:45] <SoulBlade> this is from synaptic's install details: setting up mythtv-backend (0.20.2-ubuntu10)
[20:46] <SoulBlade> and then i get hit with a segfault when it says setting up mythtv server
[20:46] <SoulBlade> and the rest dies out because backend isn't configured properly
[20:47] <SoulBlade> installing the mythtv package would install all dependencies as well right?
[20:47] <SoulBlade> im wondering if i was stupid and removed some other dependencies when i was debugging the issues i was having w/ .21
[20:47] <DaveMorris> oh
[20:48] <DaveMorris> the dependices prob need to be reverted as well
[20:49] <SoulBlade> what are they
[20:52] <SoulBlade> it appears i have the dependencies installed
[20:52] <DaveMorris> yeah but they prob need reinstalling at the previous versions
[20:54] <SoulBlade> pain
[20:54] <SoulBlade> i give up - i have some other shit to do
[20:54] <SoulBlade> another few days w/o mythtv
[20:54] <DaveMorris> if you come back in 5 mins I'll hopefully have the list of dependices to reinstall
[20:55] <SoulBlade> ill idle here
[20:55] <DaveMorris> or you could dist-upgrade to hardy where nvida is fixed
[20:55] <SoulBlade> if that does everything for me then im willing to give it a shot
[20:55] <SoulBlade> but im never ever upgrading again once my setup is working again :)
[20:55] <DaveMorris> hehe
[20:55] <SoulBlade> i appreciate the help too
[20:56] <DaveMorris> you need to revet just the backend or both?
[20:56] <SoulBlade> well the backend wont startup
[20:56] <SoulBlade> so i guess thats the first step
[21:01] <DaveMorris> SoulBlade: sudo apt-get install --reinstall mythtv-backend mythtv-common  mythtv-transcode-utils   libartsc0  libasound2  libavc1394-0   libc6 libfreetype6  libgcc1   libgl1-mesa-glx   libglib2.0-0  libglu1-mesa   libiec61883-0  libjack0  liblame0  libmyth-0.20  libqt3-mt  libraw1394-8 libstdc++6   libx11-6 libxext6 libxinerama1 libxmu6 libxrandr2   libxv1 libxvmc1 libxxf86vm1 cron wget zenity  kdebase-bin gksu  kdebase-bin  msttcore
[21:03] <SoulBlade> crazy
[21:03] <DaveMorris> whats it saying, as some other packages might moan their dependice is getting older
[21:03] <directhex> efonts
[21:04] <SoulBlade> lemme see
[21:05] <SoulBlade> god i love ssh
[21:06] <SoulBlade> couldn't find package msttcore
[21:06] <DaveMorris> just remove it from the list
[21:06] <DaveMorris> it's only MS fonts anyway and they won't of changed
[21:06] <SoulBlade> it didn't complain - seems like its goin
[21:06] <SoulBlade> ah nevermind
[21:07] <SoulBlade> could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libgcc1
[21:07] <DaveMorris> again remove it from the list, as it's already installed and it might not be whats stopping mythbackend
[21:07] <jlongs2> hey folks, i'm thinking of building an HTPC, and I think my preferred setup would be ubuntu and mythtv.  I've never setup mythtv before, and (at least at the moment) I don't have any need for recording, I'm just interested in playback over SMB.
[21:08] <jlongs2> how feasible would that be with mythtv/mythbuntu?
[21:08] <DaveMorris> jlongs2: you want to be able to share with Window machines then?
[21:08] <jlongs2> a mac, actually, but yeah, I don't want to put the media on the HTPC itself
[21:09] <jlongs2> I've been doing some reading and it seems that I'd still have to run the mythtv backend, is that right?
[21:09] <DaveMorris> it's perfectly possible, you just mount the share on the HTPC machine and mythtv then thinks it's local
[21:09] <DaveMorris> I mount my music/video using NFS from my desktop to the HTPC machine in the living room
[21:10] <jlongs2> ok, what about mythtv's playback of stuff other than what it recorded?
[21:10] <SoulBlade> still segfaulted after trying to setup the mythbackend
[21:10] <DaveMorris> if all your after is a machine to play back video and music I'd actually recommend using Rhythmbox and gxine\mplayer
[21:11] <DaveMorris> SoulBlade: I'm out of ideas sorry.  Might be easier to dist-upgrade it to hardy over night
[21:11] <SoulBlade> aiight - thanks a lot
[21:11] <DaveMorris> I actually exit mythtv and use rhythmbox for music, since mythmusic doesn't pick up all my music
[21:12] <jlongs2> that's an option, but I'm looking for it to be fully integrated, be able to work it with just a remote, like XBMC, which is my current setup.  I'd actually use the XBMC linux port, but it doesn't seem very mature from what I've been reading
[21:12] <DaveMorris> your other option is to use the other software which escapes my mind atm
[21:12] <DaveMorris> let me google
[21:13] <DaveMorris> elisa - http://elisa.fluendo.com
[21:13] <DaveMorris> superm1: will kill me for recommending something else :)
[21:13]  * superm1 will already kill DaveMorris if he doesn't get more documentation done
[21:13]  * superm1 snaps a whip
[21:13] <laga> yeah
[21:13] <laga> ;)
[21:13]  * DaveMorris wonders if elisa will work as a frontend for mythtv yet
[21:15]  * DaveMorris wonders if elisa could be launched instead of mythmusic from mythtv
[21:16] <jlongs2> that actually seems neat, thanks for the link
[21:17] <DaveMorris> yeah it's quite cool from what I've seen and will suit you better.  Mythtv is mainly around watching/recording TV
[21:18] <jlongs2> yeah, i might buy a capture card at some point but for the moment I basically want an HD-capable XBMC, so that looks good, thanks
[21:21] <directhex> DaveMorris, does elisa work at all yet?
[21:21] <directhex> DaveMorris, or does it still just crash if you touch the escape button?
[21:21] <[Soul]> <--
[21:21] <[Soul]> grr
[21:21]  * [Soul] is SoulBlade
[21:21] <DaveMorris> directhex tbh I've not used it, just been aware of it and seen people running it
[21:21] <[Soul]> anyway, whats the command to do the dist upgrade? might as well trigger it now
[21:21] <directhex> [Soul], update-manager -c -d
[21:22] <directhex> ymmv. ianal. gl. iddqd. dnkroz
[21:38] <DaveMorris> directhex your right, just install elisa on my hardy laptop, and I can hardly navigate around the menu system it seems so slow.  The mythtv frontend been written in clutter appears to work better
[21:39] <directhex> DaveMorris, all hail clutter! as long as it leaves pvr350 owners crying, i'm all for it
[21:39] <DaveMorris> clutter is some cool tech
[21:40] <EvilGuru> directhex: Last week you posted a very nice script to remove old kernel images, do you still have it?
[21:40] <directhex> EvilGuru, no, i just came up with it on the spot
[21:40] <directhex> DaveMorris, isn't clutter gobject-based? i can't see the qt-loving devs making that onumental a change
[21:42] <DaveMorris> a guy at noisymine.org is working on it.  When I finish my masters at work I might give him a hand
[21:51] <hti_pro> mythweb is getting a memory limit error, while searching listings it is using more than 48MB
[21:53] <hti_pro> just to search listings?  sound like a runaway process to me
[21:57] <PiXeLStick> elisa looks neat. Does it work with mythtv?
[21:57] <DaveMorris> no it's a seperate project
[21:57]  * Daviey made a mockup of myth frontend using clutter.. justinh was pretty damn rude about it :(
[21:57] <DaveMorris> although if they wanted to could put it in
[21:57] <DaveMorris> Daviey: someone else is doing that
[21:57] <laga> Daviey: hah
[21:57] <PiXeLStick> I know, but there are projects that can connect to a mythbox
[21:58] <Daviey> hence me not being in #mythtv or #mythtv-users anymore... :(
[21:59] <DaveMorris> http://www.noisymime.org/projects.html gloss
[21:59] <DaveMorris> gloss is the name of the project
[21:59] <DaveMorris> not functional yet though
[22:00] <PiXeLStick> I am watching a youtube of gloss
[22:01] <Daviey> DaveMorris: http://daviey.mooo.com/~dave/out.ogg  <-- thats as far as i got
[22:01] <DaveMorris> needs a lot of work to make it functional.  However if you know python and wanna help him out I'm sure he won't mind
[22:02] <DaveMorris> I've got some ideas but not had time
[22:02] <DaveMorris> I chatted to the bloke, his main development is on Ubuntu :)
[22:02]  * majoridiot thinks that looks cool as hell
[22:04] <Daviey> well i lost all interest in doing it with justinh's crappy attitude.. considering how much he throws his toys out of his pram if someone criticises his work
[22:05] <DaveMorris> Daviey: personally, I think people would prefer to use that to the current version
[22:05] <DaveMorris> and it's the way forward
[22:06] <DaveMorris> along with a web interface for configuring a backend :)
[22:06] <Daviey> I know.. which was why i bothered doing something - and just to get bitched at.. so i stopped continuing - i didn't know gloss was in the works :(
[22:08] <DaveMorris> they are just trying to protect their way of working
[22:08] <DaveMorris> however you need to make it easy for themes to be made for the new interface, ideally making it so the same theme could be used
[22:09] <Daviey> Have you heard justinh's attitude when someone complains about mythtv?  "patches welcome"  "do something about it then"
[22:09] <DaveMorris> yep, I ignore it
[22:12] <PiXeLStick> really? That sux
[22:12] <PiXeLStick> Maybe it is stressful being a project leader of a large project.
[22:22] <directhex> justinh is not a project leader
[22:22] <directhex> he just made some very popular themes, and a few patches
[22:22] <PiXeLStick> oh, then I wouldn't pay attention to him
[22:28] <PiXeLStick> I wonder why he has such an attitude
[22:28] <Daviey> directhex: /me knows this.. but put me right off contributing regardless
[23:08] <laga> to be honest, "send a patch" is the right answer sometimes ;)
[23:35] <Franky_the_Pier> Hi there!  I have been trying to setuup mythbuntu for the past 5 days, actually the install is very easy, but, remote wont work.  I read everything there is on the net for the past 5 days.  tuner is hauppauge pvr-150, with remote A415-HPG.  The version i have right now is Hardy 8.04 beta.  But, I have tried Gutsy and Knoppmyth, all with the same result.  IRW is not working, and the reason I believe is that under /dev there
[23:35] <Franky_the_Pier> is no files or folders lirc, no lircd, nothin related to lirc at all whatsoever.  Under /etc/lirc I have all the files needed (i think): hardware.conf, lirdc.conf, and lircmd.conf.  At setup time, I told it that I have the remote hauppauge tv card, and i want to use the ir blaster as well.  I installed like 10 times, trying various settings here, to no avail.  Anyways, I would like to find a solution if possible!  I ran out
[23:35] <Franky_the_Pier>  of googling ideas!!  Thank you very much, becasue mythtv looks awesome.  PS: The tuner card works well, i can control everything with the keyboard, but of course i dont want a keyboard full time in living room.  I can watch tv and all.  Only the LIRC is a problem.  Thanks again!
[23:40] <DaveMorris> Franky_the_Pier: whats the output of sudo /etc/inid.d/lirc restart --verbose
[23:40] <Franky_the_Pier> Dave: 1 sec, lemme check
[23:41] <Franky_the_Pier> (how do you get my name in fornt of the post, did you retype?)
[23:41] <DaveMorris> I used pidgin, so I type it (with tab for completion)
[23:41] <DaveMorris> but typing it does the same thing
[23:41] <Franky_the_Pier> ok
[23:42] <Franky_the_Pier> ok, Stooping the remote daemons: FAIL
[23:42] <Franky_the_Pier> Loading LIRC modules: OK
[23:42] <Franky_the_Pier> Starting the remote control daemons: FAIL
[23:42] <Franky_the_Pier> DAVE: that's it
[23:42] <DaveMorris> ok
[23:43] <Franky_the_Pier> Dave: any ideas?
[23:44] <DaveMorris> can you run sudo lircd
[23:44] <Franky_the_Pier> i ran it, and it just did nothing, just another line on command prompt
[23:44] <DaveMorris> hmmm
[23:45] <Franky_the_Pier> irw also just returns another line in command prompt
[23:45] <DaveMorris> actually my lircd returns (and it works)
[23:46] <Franky_the_Pier> oh, what does it do when it works?
[23:48] <Franky_the_Pier> but the fact that there is nothing related to LIRC in /dev is a big problem...
[23:49] <DaveMorris> yeah but what have you got under /dev/input
[23:50] <Franky_the_Pier> I have 1 folder called "by-path", and some files called "event0" thru to "event5", then file "mice", "mouse0", "mouse1".  That's it
[23:51] <DaveMorris> it's prob sitting under one of those event* devices
[23:52] <Franky_the_Pier> what can i do?
[23:53] <DaveMorris> in your hardware.conf (I think its in /etc) change REMOTE_DEVICE="/dev/lirc0" to REMOTE_DEVICE="/dev/input/event0"
[23:53] <DaveMorris> and restart lirc, test with irw. If it doesn't work try event1 etc till you've tried them all
[23:53] <superm1> dpkg-reconfigure lirc should actually do that automatically for you too (MCC should have too, if it didn't that's a bit of a bug)
[23:53] <superm1> but it should have given you the event devices during remote selection
[23:54] <Franky_the_Pier> ok, but right now, in hardware.cong, the device is: "REMOTE_DEVICE=" "
[23:54] <DaveMorris> superm1: but how can you tell which device it's hiding under?
[23:54] <superm1> magic?
[23:55] <Franky_the_Pier> ok, so I run dpkg-reconfigure lirc then hey
[23:57] <Franky_the_Pier> it seems to hang on "Loading LIRC modules"...
[23:57] <superm1> oh well that's not good.
[23:57] <Franky_the_Pier> no kidding!
[23:57] <superm1> kill any modprobe processes
[23:58] <Franky_the_Pier> ok...  I am a little green for that, can you spell it out for me please?