| Alvinvvbvv | Stroganoff, thanks. But unfortunately, there is no such option in there. | 00:06 |
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| Stroganoff | is it the screen where you can change the wallpaper? | 00:06 |
| Stroganoff | at the bottom there should be 4 checkboxes for disabling the special icons | 00:07 |
| Alvinvvbvv | ok, I see them now | 00:07 |
| Alvinvvbvv | they are unchecked, icons are still visible, how can it be? | 00:08 |
| testecletes | I'm trying to install 7.10 and it seems that my CPU keeps running at 100% | 00:08 |
| Stroganoff | Alvinvvbvv edit the file ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/xfdesktoprc | 00:09 |
| Stroganoff | testecletes at what point? | 00:10 |
| Alvinvvbvv | show-trash is set to false | 00:11 |
| testecletes | It's during the post-installation, after I restart from the LiveCD | 00:11 |
| testecletes | i'm going to try reinstalling it, and i'll see what's taking up so much | 00:11 |
| Stroganoff | testecletes you could try the alternate iso | 00:12 |
| testecletes | i'll look into that :) | 00:12 |
| testecletes | I'm wondering though, the xfce windows manager loads up fine | 00:13 |
| testecletes | and then in the middle of it, it starts getting very very laggy | 00:13 |
| Stroganoff | testecletes you could also try my icewm desktop, its more light weight and uses the alternate iso | 00:18 |
| Stroganoff | join #ubuntu-light-script then | 00:18 |
| testecletes | alright, great | 00:19 |
| testecletes | thanks Stroganoff :) | 00:19 |
| Stroganoff | install a minimal cli system with the ubuntu alternate iso if you want to use my script | 00:20 |
| newscane | I have a question about a new install.. | 00:23 |
| Stroganoff | ok | 00:23 |
| newscane | running 7.10 on a P3 450 (yes, a bit old). video card is an nvidia riva tnt. once i boot from CD, all i'm getting out of X is a lot of flickers. no desktop. what do i need to do..? | 00:25 |
| Stroganoff | use ctrl+alt+f8 (for example) to get a shell. then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace nvidia with vesa | 00:29 |
| Stroganoff | on the other hand i would just use the alternate installer (text based but easy to use) | 00:29 |
| Stroganoff | furthermore on such old hardware i'd use my icewm install script (sry guys) | 00:29 |
| Stroganoff | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741631 | 00:30 |
| newscane | hmm | 00:32 |
| newscane | that looks promising | 00:33 |
| newscane | so i get to download another ISO... fun | 00:33 |
| Stroganoff | well it is | 00:33 |
| Stroganoff | pretty new though | 00:33 |
| newscane | i started w/ the latest debian (since that's what i'ved used on other boxes) | 00:33 |
| newscane | but i was having major issues with my wifi | 00:33 |
| newscane | so i tried regular ubuntu | 00:33 |
| Stroganoff | i'd use debian myself if ubuntu wasn't so super awesome :D | 00:33 |
| newscane | it recognized it | 00:33 |
| newscane | then realized xubuntu may be better for my older hardware | 00:34 |
| newscane | and grabbed that one this afternoon | 00:35 |
| testecletes | sweet, thanks for that link dude | 00:35 |
| testecletes | appreciate it Stroganoff | 00:35 |
| testecletes | im going with xubuntu alt. iso | 00:36 |
| Stroganoff | i'll upload a new version in a couple of minutes | 00:36 |
| testecletes | or, just ubuntu alt iso rather | 00:36 |
| testecletes | Strog: is that your site? | 00:36 |
| testecletes | oh, the forum answered it for me | 00:37 |
| testecletes | thanks :) | 00:37 |
| Stroganoff | xubuntu alternate iso should work | 00:37 |
| Stroganoff | just install cli system | 00:37 |
| testecletes | alright | 00:38 |
| Stroganoff | join that channel for further instructions: #ubuntu-light-script | 00:38 |
| testecletes | for some odd reason i cant seen to join that channel | 00:39 |
| Stroganoff | join #icebuntu then | 00:39 |
| testecletes | gotcha | 00:39 |
| newscane | i'm grabbing the iso now, i'll take a look at it tomorrow. thanks for the help! | 00:49 |
| testecletes | hullo | 01:05 |
| testecletes | hey Stroganoff, what was your channel again? | 01:05 |
| Stroganoff | #icebuntu | 01:05 |
| testecletes | for some strange reason my home directory's .dmrc file's permissions were changed... | 01:06 |
| testecletes | had to work on that for a minute | 01:06 |
| testecletes | thanks for the recommendation for xchat, its working fine | 01:06 |
| testecletes | the ubuntu alternate iso CLI is taking some time though (on a 800mhz 256ram tablet pc) | 01:06 |
| Iskr | testecletes, how did you perform the installation? | 01:22 |
| Iskr | had the tablet a cd drive? | 01:22 |
| testecletes | yeah, this computer doesn't have an internal optical drive, so im using an external usb dvd-rom drive | 01:23 |
| testecletes | right now, im installing the CLI base from the Alternate CD | 01:23 |
| Iskr | so you had "Boot from usb" in bios? | 01:23 |
| testecletes | its been stuck at 95% for a good 20 minutes | 01:23 |
| testecletes | unfortunately, it doesn't read pendrives or thumbdrives for some odd reason | 01:23 |
| testecletes | yet it seems to pick up the external hard drive quite well | 01:23 |
| Iskr | what tablet is it? | 01:23 |
| testecletes | the acer travelmate c100 | 01:24 |
| Iskr | ah ok | 01:24 |
| testecletes | have you any experience with it? | 01:24 |
| Iskr | no i have no experience with tablet but i'm willing to try one beacause it could be a solution for a problem: how to read comfortably ebooks | 01:25 |
| testecletes | oh yeah, definitely, it will be great for reading ebooks :) | 01:25 |
| Stroganoff | Iskr only epaper is comfortable for reading ebooks | 01:26 |
| Iskr | Stroganoff, i am afraid you are right | 01:26 |
| Iskr | still | 01:26 |
| Stroganoff | unfortunatly theres no epaper-reader with open source software | 01:26 |
| Iskr | i would like | 01:26 |
| Iskr | to try a tablet | 01:26 |
| Stroganoff | amazon has released an ereader but software and formats suck | 01:26 |
| Iskr | yes i have seen it | 01:27 |
| Iskr | Stroganoff, have you ever tried a tablet for ebooks? | 01:27 |
| Stroganoff | nope i'm just saying | 01:27 |
| Stroganoff | solely for battery life | 01:27 |
| Stroganoff | epaper needs no power while displaying | 01:27 |
| Iskr | i don't think it is a major issue... | 01:27 |
| Iskr | one or two hours of reading could be enough | 01:28 |
| Iskr | i tried to read with a 14" screen laptop, rotating it of 90° counterclockwise | 01:29 |
| Iskr | i had some problem with light incidence on the screen | 01:30 |
| Iskr | i think that a tablet would have been much better =P | 01:30 |
| Iskr | unfortunately they cost MUCH | 01:30 |
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| cdecarlo | hi, I accidentally kill -1'd the panels in xfce, what's the command to load them up again? | 04:12 |
| Stroganoff | xfce4-panel | 04:14 |
| Stroganoff | alt+f2 | 04:14 |
| duwee | anybody home? | 04:34 |
| boskone | nope, not a soul | 04:36 |
| duwee | oh | 04:38 |
| danielm | !anyone | duwee | 04:40 |
| ubotu | duwee: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 04:40 |
| duwee | a thousand pardons | 04:40 |
| duwee | in synaptic i saw kde base... where can one find gnome base? | 04:42 |
| duwee | also... i've seen conflicting advice on installing real player... best practice, anyone? | 04:48 |
| boskone | perhaps debian-base? | 04:49 |
| duwee | <<< nubi | 04:49 |
| boskone | unless you have an explicit reason, why bother? It's a pretty crappy delivery method | 04:49 |
| * boskone is not all that much better | 04:49 | |
| duwee | it was my impression that xubuntu comes with xfce and gnome installed | 04:52 |
| boskone | nope, just xfce | 04:52 |
| duwee | ah | 04:52 |
| duwee | noticed gnome components in synaptic | 04:52 |
| duwee | was wondering | 04:52 |
| boskone | I don't believe it takes much, if anything, to get gnome apps installed in xfce, though | 04:52 |
| boskone | well, synaptic lists packages for all 3 releases | 04:53 |
| boskone | (ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu) | 04:53 |
| duwee | gotcha | 04:53 |
| boskone | and xfce is done up by some of the original gnome devs, to do away with the cruft | 04:53 |
| boskone | and over some design differences, I believe | 04:53 |
| duwee | so far i'm jazzed about xubuntu | 04:53 |
| boskone | I use it. :) | 04:54 |
| duwee | xine didn't pan out... | 04:54 |
| duwee | so i got flashplayer | 04:54 |
| boskone | The only issue I'm having (which I keep forgetting to ask in here about) is that shortcuts for my xfce4-popup-menu never work. :p | 04:54 |
| boskone | what're you trying to play? | 04:54 |
| duwee | <<< listening to pandora radio | 04:54 |
| boskone | ah | 04:54 |
| duwee | was hoping to listen to npr | 04:55 |
| duwee | too | 04:55 |
| boskone | tried rhythmbox? | 04:55 |
| boskone | I think it can do webcasts | 04:55 |
| duwee | saw some docs about it | 04:55 |
| duwee | do u use it? | 04:56 |
| boskone | rhythmbox? | 04:56 |
| boskone | Install it, crank it up. :) | 04:56 |
| boskone | It doesn't have global shortcuts, but you can set 'em pretty easily through the keyboard settings | 04:57 |
| duwee | customizable within the app? | 04:57 |
| boskone | Nah, from XFCE | 04:57 |
| boskone | you set whatever shortcut to rhythmbox-client --whatever | 04:57 |
| boskone | play-pause, next, stop, etc | 04:57 |
| boskone | My MM keys don't work, but that's 'cause I'm too lazy to set them up. :D | 04:58 |
| duwee | on the shortcuts tab? | 04:58 |
| boskone | so I have prev, play-pause, and next set to win+z, x, and c (respectively) | 04:58 |
| boskone | yea | 04:58 |
| duwee | click add? | 04:58 |
| boskone | yea | 04:59 |
| boskone | I think you have to add a theme, then you can add actual shortcuts | 04:59 |
| duwee | ah | 04:59 |
| boskone | I don't believe you can modify default (through the app, at least) | 04:59 |
| boskone | Makes sense, when you think about it; always have a good fallback set. ;) | 04:59 |
| duwee | <<< downloading rhythmbox | 04:59 |
| boskone | I'm using it now. ;) | 05:00 |
| duwee | comes with gstreamer | 05:00 |
| boskone | not for webcasts, just files | 05:00 |
| boskone | but I see options for podcasts and internet radio | 05:00 |
| duwee | was wondering which gstreamer to get | 05:00 |
| boskone | unless you have a problem just use defaults | 05:00 |
| duwee | is it necessary to close open programs like firefox when installing rhythmbox? | 05:01 |
| boskone | nope | 05:02 |
| duwee | cool | 05:02 |
| boskone | only time you should have to close any program is when modifying the program itself or--maybe--installing plugins | 05:02 |
| duwee | you mean close and reopen after installing? | 05:03 |
| boskone | yea | 05:03 |
| duwee | i like xubuntu even more | 05:03 |
| boskone | that's pretty standard for linux; it's not as big on rebooting and such as windows | 05:05 |
| boskone | Dunno about OSX; haven't used it much at all | 05:05 |
| duwee | could you explain about sessions? | 05:06 |
| duwee | is it like a user profile? | 05:06 |
| duwee | config stuff? | 05:07 |
| boskone | sessions...? | 05:07 |
| boskone | like logging in? | 05:07 |
| duwee | yeah and that prompt to save at logout | 05:07 |
| boskone | well, it's just what it says: session | 05:08 |
| boskone | so when you log in you're starting a session, when you log out you're ending it | 05:08 |
| duwee | how much is saved? | 05:08 |
| duwee | does it use more memory? | 05:09 |
| duwee | i know a little bit about hive cleanup | 05:09 |
| boskone | not realy | 05:09 |
| boskone | saves window positions, I think open apps | 05:09 |
| boskone | so when you log in stuff automatically opens up | 05:10 |
| * boskone tries to remember last time he logged in | 05:10 | |
| boskone | of course, as I'm prosetylizing linux my sansa is industriously going nuts. :p | 05:10 |
| duwee | you mean you can just stay logged in and the shell doesn't deteriorate? | 05:11 |
| boskone | not particularly | 05:11 |
| boskone | some programs will leak | 05:11 |
| boskone | I close Opera for that very reason | 05:11 |
| duwee | i have opera | 05:11 |
| boskone | but in general you'd probably have to stay logged in for a horribly long time | 05:11 |
| duwee | but can't get flash to work | 05:11 |
| boskone | Yea, mine's acting weird | 05:11 |
| boskone | same plugin works fine in firefox | 05:11 |
| boskone | so if I just absolutely have to have flash for something, I open ff | 05:12 |
| duwee | ff? | 05:12 |
| boskone | again, just haven't been assed to look at it and get it fixed | 05:12 |
| boskone | firefox | 05:12 |
| duwee | ah | 05:12 |
| boskone | I'll have to run Windows come May, thought, for Age of Conan. :\ | 05:12 |
| duwee | what is armorapp? | 05:13 |
| boskone | amarok | 05:13 |
| boskone | it's a QT-based music player | 05:14 |
| boskone | it's nice, but too heavy for my taste | 05:14 |
| duwee | i thought it was a firewall | 05:14 |
| duwee | lol | 05:14 |
| boskone | hehe | 05:14 |
| duwee | related to ip tables or something | 05:14 |
| boskone | I'm assuming you actually mean "amarokapp" | 05:15 |
| duwee | armor app | 05:15 |
| duwee | do you use firestarter? | 05:15 |
| boskone | I don't actually bother with a firewall on my desktop, as my router's is sufficient | 05:16 |
| duwee | ah | 05:16 |
| duwee | how can i monitor my open ports? | 05:17 |
| boskone | netstat, I believe | 05:17 |
| boskone | -n switch, something like that | 05:18 |
| duwee | net tools is already installed | 05:20 |
| duwee | will that help | 05:20 |
| duwee | ? | 05:20 |
| boskone | try the netstat command from a terminal | 05:21 |
| boskone | netstat -n, that is | 05:21 |
| duwee | is see netstat-nat in the list | 05:21 |
| boskone | come again? | 05:21 |
| duwee | my terminal doesn't work right | 05:22 |
| boskone | how so | 05:22 |
| boskone | ? | 05:22 |
| duwee | logs me out when i launch it | 05:22 |
| boskone | hrm...try alt+f2, then run xterm | 05:22 |
| duwee | that's why i installed kde base in the first place | 05:22 |
| boskone | O.o | 05:22 |
| duwee | any ideas what's up with my xfce terminal | 05:23 |
| duwee | ? | 05:23 |
| boskone | not offhand | 05:24 |
| boskone | does xterm work correctly? | 05:24 |
| duwee | should run in terminal be flagged? | 05:25 |
| boskone | nope | 05:26 |
| duwee | yeah! | 05:26 |
| duwee | my ff won't close? | 05:27 |
| boskone | heh | 05:27 |
| boskone | does it respond at all? | 05:27 |
| duwee | nope | 05:27 |
| boskone | holy crap...2330? O.o | 05:27 |
| duwee | LOL | 05:27 |
| boskone | ah, then it's just locked up. | 05:27 |
| duwee | but what to do? | 05:27 |
| duwee | lol | 05:27 |
| boskone | killall firefox-bin from the terminal | 05:28 |
| boskone | "killall firefox-bin", perhaps I should be more explicit | 05:28 |
| duwee | "killall firefox-bin" ? | 05:28 |
| boskone | yea | 05:28 |
| duwee | that did it | 05:28 |
| duwee | you're a genius | 05:29 |
| duwee | thanx | 05:29 |
| boskone | I think you can do the same with ctrl+alt+esc, or something; there's a shortcut in the shortcuts app for xkill | 05:29 |
| boskone | I'm used to killall, so I just use it. :) | 05:29 |
| boskone | here's a last bit before I hit the hay, save you some annoyance possibly | 05:29 |
| boskone | download "screen" | 05:29 |
| duwee | screen? | 05:30 |
| boskone | long story short, you can open a screen session in a terminal, do stuff, and detach the session and leave the stuff running | 05:30 |
| boskone | for instance, I use irssi for irc in a screen session on my fileserver | 05:30 |
| boskone | so I can ssh in to it from, say, a buddy's house and take up IRC without necessarily missing anything | 05:30 |
| boskone | or in the Bad Old Days when I used Gentoo, I could leave stuff building without having to stay logged in | 05:31 |
| duwee | thanks for the chat | 05:31 |
| boskone | anyway, good luck with xubuntu; it's past my curfew. ;) | 05:31 |
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| duwee | pleasent dreams | 05:32 |
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| VikDAkinG | Hi, I have a question | 06:34 |
| VikDAkinG | When i tried installing Xubuntu on my system I always get an error saying something like BIOS bug APIO not connected or something | 06:35 |
| S0210 | Hi! I'm using beta Hardy with Hungarian language packages. That works fine mostly. But at switching off the goodby screen offers me these option: "Switch user", "Log out", "Újraindítás" ... What package have I missed if the buttons mix en & hu labels? | 07:03 |
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| Iskr | where are settings for characters stored? | 09:24 |
| Iskr | this morning everything is smaller | 09:24 |
| Iskr | i didn't touch anything | 09:24 |
| Iskr | anyone had hypothesis in the meantime? =P | 09:59 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: maybe your graphic card detected your monitor wrong and assumed different dpi? | 10:31 |
| Iskr | TheSheep, why today? | 10:32 |
| Iskr | anyway, it is possible | 10:32 |
| Iskr | how i change it? | 10:32 |
| TheSheep | you can set the dimesnions of your monitor screen in your xorg.conf, then it won't try to detect it | 10:36 |
| Iskr | i have a 15" screen... | 10:38 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: there are some details here: http://scanline.ca/dpi/ | 10:40 |
| Iskr | thanks | 10:40 |
| Iskr | still i don't know how to set the 96 value | 10:42 |
| Iskr | i also have this in Xorg.0.log | 10:45 |
| TheSheep | http://xubuntulinux.blogspot.com/2006/07/ubuntu-set-correct-dpi-for-x-server.html | 10:45 |
| Iskr | ==) SIS(0): DPI set to (100, 100) | 10:45 |
| Iskr | but i@is:~$ xdpyinfo | grep resolution | 10:45 |
| Iskr | resolution: 73x73 dots per inch | 10:45 |
| Iskr | edit ~/.config/xfce4/Xft.xrdb (if using XFCE4) and add line: <- i already tried it. didn't work | 10:47 |
| Iskr | let's try displaysize... | 10:56 |
| Iskr | it worked | 11:04 |
| TheSheep | Iskr: great | 11:07 |
| Iskr | thank you very much | 11:08 |
| The_Druid- | any idea on how to fix the busybox stucking? | 11:51 |
| jnet | yooo guysss | 12:30 |
| jnet | can i get a bit of tech support | 12:30 |
| ere4si | only if you let us know what is going on :) | 12:31 |
| jnet | my taskbars arent there anymore | 12:31 |
| jnet | like neither the top or the bottom one | 12:32 |
| ere4si | jnet: hit the alt + F2 buttons and type xfce4-panels & | 12:32 |
| ere4si | and hit enter | 12:33 |
| jnet | comes up with program failed to run? | 12:35 |
| ere4si | jnet: try xfce4-panel - without the 's" on the end - sorry | 12:37 |
| jnet | oh wicked | 12:38 |
| jnet | pheww | 12:38 |
| jnet | will they stay up if i reboot? | 12:38 |
| ere4si | they should | 12:38 |
| ere4si | what happened to make them go? | 12:39 |
| jnet | no clue | 12:39 |
| jnet | i dont use the machine | 12:39 |
| ere4si | well - try it and see | 12:39 |
| ere4si | if it doesn't you can add that command to autostarted apps | 12:40 |
| jnet | oh no i see | 12:40 |
| jnet | when i go to quit on the top panel next to the time | 12:41 |
| jnet | it no longer comes up with the 5 options | 12:41 |
| jnet | i just get exit xfce panel | 12:41 |
| jnet | ? | 12:41 |
| jnet | how do i get the 5 options back on that neat little menu | 12:42 |
| ere4si | open the session manager and then sessions and startup and check some boxes | 12:42 |
| ere4si | there should be an option to show hibernate etc | 12:43 |
| The_Druid- | guys, can i install the 64bit version on a pentium D 3,2 machine? | 12:43 |
| jnet | session manager? | 12:44 |
| jnet | sessions and startup settings? | 12:44 |
| ere4si | jnet: it is in the first option when you open the applications menu | 12:45 |
| jnet | applications - settings - ? | 12:46 |
| jnet | settings manager!! | 12:46 |
| ere4si | found it? | 12:47 |
| wqfqwwf | ban my ip punk ass kids | 12:47 |
| wqfqwwf | ban me punk ass kids | 12:48 |
| wqfqwwf | prophet muhammad sucks dick | 12:48 |
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| wqfqwwf | prophet muhammad sucks lizard dick | 12:48 |
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| wqfqwwf | ban me punk ass kids | 12:48 |
| wqfqwwf | ban me punk ass kids | 12:48 |
| wqfqwwf | BAN ME | 12:48 |
| ere4si | The_Druid-: looks like you can | 12:48 |
| wqfqwwf | prophet muhammad sucks camel dick | 12:49 |
| The_Druid- | can't get it started | 12:49 |
| wqfqwwf | prophet muhammad sucks camel dick | 12:49 |
| wqfqwwf | I'm going to write a perl script to auto-vandalize ubuntu channels | 12:49 |
| wqfqwwf | `wvdial isp1` | 12:49 |
| The_Druid- | seems that it cannot find the boot device | 12:49 |
| wqfqwwf | `poff` | 12:49 |
| wqfqwwf | `wvdial isp2` | 12:49 |
| wqfqwwf | `poff` | 12:49 |
| wqfqwwf | prophet muhammad sucks dick | 12:49 |
| jnet | ^? yeah settings manager - sessions an startup - and ticked all the boxes in logout settings | 12:50 |
| wqfqwwf | prophet muhammad sucks dick | 12:50 |
| ere4si | jnet: click the shutdown icon and see if its' changed | 12:51 |
| ere4si | The_Druid-: has the live cd started at all? | 12:51 |
| The_Druid- | yeah, it only stucks when i finish installing | 12:51 |
| The_Druid- | and try to start it without the cd | 12:52 |
| jnet | nope? same thing | 12:52 |
| jnet | ooh if i go to quit in the applications menu the warning is different? | 12:52 |
| jnet | it says- unable to quit session ' quitting the session requires that the xfce session (xfce4-session) is running, but it was not detected. Please quite Xfce via another means | 12:54 |
| ere4si | jnet: try a reboot with the command - sudo shutdown -r now - and at the login click on session and make sure you select xfce | 12:55 |
| ere4si | The_Druid-: I would boot in the live cd and reinstall grub to hd0 | 12:56 |
| The_Druid- | how do i do that? | 12:57 |
| jnet | '- sudo....now -' with the hyphens | 12:57 |
| jnet | oh right | 12:57 |
| ere4si | The_Druid-: in the live cd open a terminal - type sudo grub - then - find /boot/grub/stage1 - it will give an answer (hd,3) or similar - type root (hd0,3) substituting the answer - then type - setup (hd0) | 13:00 |
| ere4si | then type quit and reboot | 13:00 |
| ere4si | if you're on another comp I'll walk you through it | 13:01 |
| The_Druid- | ere4si: thx, i'll try to do it here, and if it doesn't work, i'll get back to windows | 13:01 |
| ere4si | k | 13:01 |
| jnet | eyyyyy | 13:02 |
| jnet | thanks matey | 13:02 |
| jnet | **loveeee | 13:02 |
| ere4si | :) | 13:02 |
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| === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche | ||
| Gar1 | Hi! how do i edit grub (boot manager)? where do i find it? | 14:10 |
| TheSheep | !grub | 14:10 |
| ubotu | grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto | 14:10 |
| TheSheep | !boot | 14:10 |
| ubotu | Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto | 14:10 |
| Gar1 | mo gui? | 14:11 |
| Gar1 | no gui? | 14:11 |
| TheSheep | no, I'm afraid not | 14:11 |
| Gar1 | thanks | 14:11 |
| TheSheep | messing with grub is a pretty low-level thing | 14:12 |
| Gar1 | something new for me to learn | 14:12 |
| TheSheep | great | 14:12 |
| Gar1 | just loving xubuntu....even all the mistakes i make lol | 14:13 |
| TheSheep | glad to hear that | 14:13 |
| Gar1 | wish me luck...time to reboot...thanks for your help | 14:35 |
| Iskr | now that i fixed that thing | 14:37 |
| Iskr | my gnubackgammon board looks too small | 14:37 |
| Iskr | -.- | 14:37 |
| === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche | ||
| birgi | good morning everybody, today I booted my computer and xfce is behaving strangely. To start with the applications don't have any borders... How can I fix this? | 15:09 |
| boolka | hi - is the 8.04 fairly safe to use ? | 15:11 |
| cody-somerville | It is not recommended for production machines | 15:11 |
| cody-somerville | there are still the odd update which seems to break things | 15:12 |
| boolka | i just need it for a laptop | 15:12 |
| cody-somerville | The official release is the 24th | 15:12 |
| boolka | yes i know .. but im eager | 15:12 |
| cody-somerville | If you're willing to accept that it *might* break, then yes, 8.04 is pretty safe to use | 15:12 |
| boolka | and on 24th will i have an option to automatically upgrade to the new release? | 15:13 |
| cody-somerville | Yes | 15:13 |
| boolka | hmm | 15:13 |
| boolka | is there a big difference between 7.10 and 8.04? | 15:14 |
| boolka | is there a torrent for 8.04? | 15:18 |
| === Mattz is now known as MatBoy | ||
| BobSapp | hey there anyone know the score on the distribution upgrade? | 15:35 |
| birgi | hey again, how can i get the history of packages that i had installed? | 15:59 |
| Iskr | birgi, synaptic? | 16:07 |
| birgi | Iskr: oh I did not know that synaptic was showing the history, thanks :) | 16:08 |
| Dartrunner | Stroganoff, Evening, I noticed that the memory use keeps slowly increasing, is this normal, and I still haven't any sound :( | 16:11 |
| Stroganoff | to what extent? it shouldnt increase while doing nothing. | 16:12 |
| Dartrunner | I rebooted yesterday and had 22MiB/186MiB, it has sat idle till now (aprox 16 hrs) and is at 73.6MiB/186MiB | 16:16 |
| Stroganoff | wow | 16:16 |
| Stroganoff | run this command: ps axl > usage.txt | 16:17 |
| Stroganoff | !pastebin usage.txt | 16:17 |
| Dartrunner | well, it seems to be locked-up | 16:20 |
| Dartrunner | mouse won't move | 16:21 |
| Stroganoff | ctrl+alt+f8 | 16:21 |
| Dartrunner | I got a blank screen with a blinking cursor but can't type anything | 16:22 |
| Stroganoff | ctrl+alt+f7 | 16:23 |
| Stroganoff | ctrl+alt+backspace | 16:23 |
| Dartrunner | looks like it made it partway through a boot and has stopped | 16:25 |
| Dartrunner | last thing on the screen is Starting X display manager: slim | 16:26 |
| Stroganoff | join #minimalubuntu | 16:28 |
| === boskone|sleep is now known as boskone | ||
| gNewPower | anyone here today? | 17:37 |
| boskone | nope, everyone's nursing hangovers | 17:40 |
| Stroganoff | ;) | 17:40 |
| boskone | do you have a question? | 17:41 |
| gNewPower | Hi, I was wondering: I originally installed Ubuntu. Then I fell in love with Xubuntu on a live-CD version. So I used Synaptic to install everything XFCE. Xubuntu and the apps like Abiword, etc. Does that give a full Xubuntu equivalent now? | 17:41 |
| boskone | if you used xubuntu-desktop, yes. | 17:41 |
| boskone | if you installed piecemeal, probably not quite | 17:42 |
| boskone | :) | 17:42 |
| gNewPower | also - are the new versions of Xubuntu released at the same time as Ubuntu & Kubuntu | 17:42 |
| gNewPower | boskone: why not? | 17:42 |
| gNewPower | it would be silly to multibooot between Ubuntu and Xubuntu when all I need is choose sessions, no? | 17:43 |
| boskone | gNewPower: there are a lot of packages involved in any of the GUI choices; I'd be surprised if you managed to get them all. | 17:43 |
| boskone | yea | 17:43 |
| boskone | but you can install both ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop, no problems | 17:43 |
| gNewPower | boskone: the GUI I configured myself, and as far as I can tell I now have all the Xubuntu aps. | 17:43 |
| boskone | gNewPower: then you probably don't actually _care_ if you have the whole xubuntu experience, yes? ;) | 17:44 |
| boskone | If it'd ain | 17:44 |
| boskone | 't broke, and all that | 17:44 |
| gNewPower | boskone: yes, I fell in love with Xubuntu, badly :-) | 17:44 |
| gNewPower | the only think I dislike about Xubuntu is the menu editor, which I do not even understand to tell you the truth... | 17:44 |
| boskone | Honestly, just run apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (or install from synaptic), and see if it installs anything. :) | 17:44 |
| Stroganoff | the menu editor is unusable | 17:45 |
| boskone | yea, the menu editor is a bit odd | 17:45 |
| boskone | I dunno that I'd go quite that far | 17:45 |
| gNewPower | so how do you guys edit your menus? | 17:45 |
| Stroganoff | it breaks the menu file, boskone | 17:45 |
| boskone | I actually just don't use it, to be honest | 17:45 |
| Stroganoff | try moving the "programs dir" hook | 17:45 |
| Stroganoff | me neither. i use icewm ;) | 17:45 |
| boskone | hehe | 17:45 |
| boskone | I just got in the habit of using the run dialogue and program | 17:46 |
| gNewPower | lemme guess: you use the GNOME Alarcate menu editor, right? | 17:46 |
| gNewPower | are the new versions of Xubuntu released at the same time as Ubuntu & Kubuntu? | 17:47 |
| boskone | yup | 17:47 |
| gNewPower | same repos and all | 17:47 |
| boskone | yea | 17:48 |
| boskone | My current xubuntu install started life as a 7.04 server cd, because the download was taking forever. :) | 17:48 |
| gNewPower | boskone: so if I have both Ubuntu and Xubuntu installed the updates will automatically updates both distros? | 17:48 |
| boskone | yea | 17:48 |
| gNewPower | sweeeeeeet!! | 17:48 |
| boskone | there's no real core difference between the two | 17:48 |
| boskone | same repos, mostly the same devs | 17:49 |
| boskone | er, maintainers | 17:49 |
| gNewPower | except that I find Xubuntu far more elegant, faster, and better designed than Ubuntu and, even more so, Kubuntu. I just love Xubuntu! | 17:49 |
| Stroganoff | i love the flowers | 17:49 |
| gNewPower | Xubuntu has the ideal balance between elegance and speed, I think. | 17:49 |
| boskone | well, xfce isn't an ubuntu project. ;) | 17:50 |
| gNewPower | Stroganoff: what flowers? | 17:50 |
| Stroganoff | daffodills? | 17:50 |
| boskone | the band, I'm assuming | 17:50 |
| gNewPower | boskone: XFCE is BSD, right? | 17:50 |
| Stroganoff | what band? :D | 17:50 |
| Stroganoff | xfce is not bsd. | 17:50 |
| boskone | gNewPower: no, just a UI | 17:50 |
| boskone | iirc, it was started by some of the original gnome devs | 17:51 |
| boskone | over design issues or something | 17:51 |
| gNewPower | really, I thought XFCE had its roots in* BSD... oh well, my ignorance has no limits :-) | 17:51 |
| gNewPower | bye, guys, see you soon! | 17:53 |
| boskone | having dispensed my daily dose of probably misinformation...:) | 17:53 |
| scriptdevil | xubuntu seems to crash for no reason when it is idle for quite sometime | 18:08 |
| scriptdevil | :( | 18:08 |
| scriptdevil | then it restarts | 18:08 |
| boskone | weird | 18:09 |
| scriptdevil | boskone: very | 18:09 |
| boskone | checked dmesg and syslog? | 18:09 |
| scriptdevil | not yet | 18:09 |
| scriptdevil | just recovered from a crash | 18:10 |
| scriptdevil | boskone: anyway.. Am running the Beta | 18:10 |
| boskone | ah | 18:10 |
| boskone | well, one can't expect perfect stability from prereleases. ;) | 18:10 |
| scriptdevil | boskone: If only I knew the reason, I could atleast file a bug report | 18:11 |
| boskone | best bet is to check the dmesg, syslog, and xorg.log | 18:11 |
| scriptdevil | boskone: I am reading syslog at the moment | 18:12 |
| scriptdevil | boskone: i will do it the next time, if a next time occurs! | 18:16 |
| wiirad | i tried to install the beta and i couildn't install GRUB. I check if i had a valid cd and i made a new one. Should i download again? | 18:56 |
| zoobox | if the check says that the cd you burned was wrong, then perhaps the fault happened during download yes.... | 19:00 |
| wiirad | thanks | 19:01 |
| zoobox | wiirad: even though md5-checksums discover most errors you can't be sure that it does find all.... I guess safest is to download again yes.... possible compare the two download.... | 19:01 |
| zoobox | hmm is it 11 days until xbuntu 8.04 releases too? (release the same day as normal ubuntu?) | 19:03 |
| TheSheep | zoobox: more or less | 19:04 |
| TheSheep | zoobox: there is usually a small delay | 19:04 |
| TheSheep | zoobox: severa hours or so | 19:04 |
| TheSheep | several | 19:04 |
| zoobox | aha hehe. | 19:12 |
| zoobox | as long as it isn't like fluxbuntu that haven't released the final version of 7.10 yet.... :-) | 19:13 |
| S0210 | Hi! I'm using Hardy beta with Hungarian language packs. At shutdown I have mixed labels for the buttons like "Switch user", "Újraindítás" "Log out". What package might be missing? Where are they defined? | 20:59 |
| boskone | rough guess, but the buttons may not be fully translated yet | 20:59 |
| boskone | it is prerelease, after all. ;) | 21:00 |
| S0210 | I can hardly imagine. But if it is so how can I check it in https://translations.launchpad.net/ ? | 21:01 |
| S0210 | I go to https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+lang/hu and I check what? | 21:02 |
| boskone | not sure; gnome-session-2.0, maybe? | 21:03 |
| S0210 | You might be right. But very strange...I found "Újraindítás" (Restart) in this as well as "Switch User" (Felhasználóváltás). I just don't get why I can't see all of them at shutdown. | 21:09 |
| boskone | Sorry, I'm a native English speaker so I've never had to mess with localisation. ;) | 21:11 |
| S0210 | Thanks anyway! | 21:15 |
| gNewPower | is there such things as a Xubuntu DVD and, if yes, where can I download it? | 21:51 |
| TheSheep | gNewPower: I think that the ubuntu dvd will contain all the packages from ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu, etc. | 21:52 |
| gNewPower | ok. great! I am downloading the other one right now. thanks! | 21:53 |
| monishka | hello, this is the first time i am in need of using irc channel so sorry if i do something that is aginst some rules - i need help with xubuntu running on asus eee pc. i have just installed it, everything works perfect, except one thing - i followed this guide - http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:customization (part - Shutdown when battery is low) and removed gnome power manager. I want to use xfce manager. But I am not able to add icon | 22:54 |
| monishka | on panel. It is not there. I am a newbie to GNU/Linux. Have been using it about a month. If someone could give me direction how to fix this, I would be glad. | 22:54 |
| TheSheep | I didn't know xfce has a gnome power manager | 22:57 |
| TheSheep | there is a battery plugin for showing the battery state | 22:57 |
| monishka | i was surprise for me too but yes | 22:58 |
| TheSheep | monishka: I mean, I wdidn't know that xfce has its own power manager, sorry | 22:58 |
| monishka | do you have any idea what can be wrong? why do i not see it on my panel? | 23:00 |
| monishka | there is xfce4-bettery-plugin | 23:01 |
| TheSheep | monishka: what are you doing exactly? | 23:02 |
| monishka | i did exactly as it is written here http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:customization in "Shutdown when battery is low" part | 23:03 |
| * TheSheep reads | 23:03 | |
| TheSheep | monishka: and which part doesn't work? | 23:04 |
| monishka | i dont know, i am pretty much a newbie to linux, ... well, i removed gnome power manager and did the editing part, then I tried to add the plugin to panel, and I does not show up. I dont see any battery state monitor. | 23:07 |
| monishka | since eee pc is a notebook, i would appriciate such monitor :-) | 23:07 |
| boolka | I installed 8.04 on my laptop which is connected to tv through Svideo cable. When I press power button on laptop and function + svideo out, i see the pic on tv. When it all loads up to the screen where im asked to enter user and pass, it turns of and i see image only on laptop, and cant get it to show anything on tv after that. How can this be fixed? | 23:11 |
| TheSheep | monishka: sorry, was afk, you do right click on the panel, select 'add item', then the battery plugin? | 23:16 |
| TheSheep | boolka: can you pastebin the result of running 'xrandr' in terminal? | 23:17 |
| boolka | TheSheep give me a sec | 23:19 |
| TheSheep | boolka: you can try the command 'xrandr --output TV --auto' | 23:27 |
| monishka | i am sorry to bother, sometimes, i just dont understand.... i tried to add this plugin to two panels and it did not work, now i tried ... just to see "what if" ... and created third panel, added it, and it shows up. maybe there is something wrong with my panel, but i cannot see what. it must be hidden somewhere but i cannot find it, i am sorry to bother and thank you for your time | 23:32 |
| boolka2 | http://pastebin.com/m7693b07a | 23:33 |
| monishka | damn, sorry, my chat did not scroll down i did not see what you wrote | 23:33 |
| boolka | TheSheep: http://pastebin.com/m7693b07a | 23:33 |
| TheSheep | boolka: so it claims your s-video is disconnected... | 23:34 |
| TheSheep | boolka: try this: xrandr --output S-video --auto | 23:34 |
| TheSheep | monishka: I think there is some bug with adding some panel plugins, not sure | 23:35 |
| boolka2 | TheSheep: currently it is.. I bought a vga to rca/svideo cable, but it dont work either :( | 23:36 |
| boolka2 | TheSheep: do I try that command once im connected to the tv? | 23:36 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: yes | 23:36 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: play with it, see 'xrandr --help' for help summary | 23:36 |
| boolka2 | also another problem | 23:37 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: and 'man xrandr' for more detailed description | 23:37 |
| boolka2 | xubuntu is only using like 2/3 of my screen space | 23:38 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: that's because it thinks you have LVDS screen connected | 23:38 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: that is smaller than your screen | 23:38 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: and it's trying to fit it on that | 23:38 |
| boolka2 | how do i fix that? | 23:39 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: xrandr --output LVDS --off | 23:39 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: you can also disable it in your xorg.conf | 23:39 |
| monishka | well it seems there is a bug, never mind, now i know that it is installed and working, so i will try to find some solution, thank you, good night (0:39 in my town) | 23:39 |
| boolka2 | TheSheep: i did tha xrandr --outpu lvds --off | 23:41 |
| boolka2 | but nothing changed | 23:41 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: :/ | 23:42 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: is the output of xrandr alone different now? | 23:42 |
| boolka2 | what do you mean | 23:42 |
| TheSheep | maybe you need to use LVDS instead of lvds | 23:42 |
| TheSheep | uppercase | 23:42 |
| boolka2 | oooh | 23:43 |
| boolka2 | it worked i thin | 23:44 |
| boolka2 | omg it did | 23:44 |
| boolka2 | ty!!! | 23:44 |
| boolka2 | now if we can only get the svideo output to work or at least the vga to rca cable | 23:45 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: well, the things that the 'xvrt' command lists are various displays of your computer | 23:45 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: and their state | 23:45 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: you can also change them using various options | 23:46 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: so I guess you need to experiment with this | 23:46 |
| boolka2 | sounds messy | 23:46 |
| TheSheep | boolka2: google might helps too | 23:46 |
| boolka2 | its all a bit more tought cuase my backlight on the lcd screen of monitor dont work :( | 23:47 |
| TheSheep | http://www.joshgerdes.com/2007/10/29/s-video-tv-out-with-ubuntu-710-on-dell-xps-m140-laptop/ | 23:48 |
| TheSheep | this one looks good | 23:48 |
| boolka2 | let me see | 23:49 |
| boolka2 | hmm looks promising | 23:55 |
| boolka2 | one more thing, how do i install flash plugins for firefox? | 23:55 |
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