[00:06] Stroganoff, thanks. But unfortunately, there is no such option in there. [00:06] is it the screen where you can change the wallpaper? [00:07] at the bottom there should be 4 checkboxes for disabling the special icons [00:07] ok, I see them now [00:08] they are unchecked, icons are still visible, how can it be? [00:08] I'm trying to install 7.10 and it seems that my CPU keeps running at 100% [00:09] Alvinvvbvv edit the file ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/xfdesktoprc [00:10] testecletes at what point? [00:11] show-trash is set to false [00:11] It's during the post-installation, after I restart from the LiveCD [00:11] i'm going to try reinstalling it, and i'll see what's taking up so much [00:12] testecletes you could try the alternate iso [00:12] i'll look into that :) [00:13] I'm wondering though, the xfce windows manager loads up fine [00:13] and then in the middle of it, it starts getting very very laggy [00:18] testecletes you could also try my icewm desktop, its more light weight and uses the alternate iso [00:18] join #ubuntu-light-script then [00:19] alright, great [00:19] thanks Stroganoff :) [00:20] install a minimal cli system with the ubuntu alternate iso if you want to use my script [00:23] I have a question about a new install.. [00:23] ok [00:25] running 7.10 on a P3 450 (yes, a bit old). video card is an nvidia riva tnt. once i boot from CD, all i'm getting out of X is a lot of flickers. no desktop. what do i need to do..? [00:29] use ctrl+alt+f8 (for example) to get a shell. then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace nvidia with vesa [00:29] on the other hand i would just use the alternate installer (text based but easy to use) [00:29] furthermore on such old hardware i'd use my icewm install script (sry guys) [00:30] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741631 [00:32] hmm [00:33] that looks promising [00:33] so i get to download another ISO... fun [00:33] well it is [00:33] pretty new though [00:33] i started w/ the latest debian (since that's what i'ved used on other boxes) [00:33] but i was having major issues with my wifi [00:33] so i tried regular ubuntu [00:33] i'd use debian myself if ubuntu wasn't so super awesome :D [00:33] it recognized it [00:34] then realized xubuntu may be better for my older hardware [00:35] and grabbed that one this afternoon [00:35] sweet, thanks for that link dude [00:35] appreciate it Stroganoff [00:36] im going with xubuntu alt. iso [00:36] i'll upload a new version in a couple of minutes [00:36] or, just ubuntu alt iso rather [00:36] Strog: is that your site? [00:37] oh, the forum answered it for me [00:37] thanks :) [00:37] xubuntu alternate iso should work [00:37] just install cli system [00:38] alright [00:38] join that channel for further instructions: #ubuntu-light-script [00:39] for some odd reason i cant seen to join that channel [00:39] join #icebuntu then [00:39] gotcha [00:49] i'm grabbing the iso now, i'll take a look at it tomorrow. thanks for the help! [01:05] hullo [01:05] hey Stroganoff, what was your channel again? [01:05] #icebuntu [01:06] for some strange reason my home directory's .dmrc file's permissions were changed... [01:06] had to work on that for a minute [01:06] thanks for the recommendation for xchat, its working fine [01:06] the ubuntu alternate iso CLI is taking some time though (on a 800mhz 256ram tablet pc) [01:22] testecletes, how did you perform the installation? [01:22] had the tablet a cd drive? [01:23] yeah, this computer doesn't have an internal optical drive, so im using an external usb dvd-rom drive [01:23] right now, im installing the CLI base from the Alternate CD [01:23] so you had "Boot from usb" in bios? [01:23] its been stuck at 95% for a good 20 minutes [01:23] unfortunately, it doesn't read pendrives or thumbdrives for some odd reason [01:23] yet it seems to pick up the external hard drive quite well [01:23] what tablet is it? [01:24] the acer travelmate c100 [01:24] ah ok [01:24] have you any experience with it? [01:25] no i have no experience with tablet but i'm willing to try one beacause it could be a solution for a problem: how to read comfortably ebooks [01:25] oh yeah, definitely, it will be great for reading ebooks :) [01:26] Iskr only epaper is comfortable for reading ebooks [01:26] Stroganoff, i am afraid you are right [01:26] still [01:26] unfortunatly theres no epaper-reader with open source software [01:26] i would like [01:26] to try a tablet [01:26] amazon has released an ereader but software and formats suck [01:27] yes i have seen it [01:27] Stroganoff, have you ever tried a tablet for ebooks? [01:27] nope i'm just saying [01:27] solely for battery life [01:27] epaper needs no power while displaying [01:27] i don't think it is a major issue... [01:28] one or two hours of reading could be enough [01:29] i tried to read with a 14" screen laptop, rotating it of 90° counterclockwise [01:30] i had some problem with light incidence on the screen [01:30] i think that a tablet would have been much better =P [01:30] unfortunately they cost MUCH === tuna-fish is now known as tuna === gaurdro is now known as gaurdro|away === BunnyRevolution is now known as uo === uo is now known as BunnyRevolution === gaurdro|away is now known as gaurdro [04:12] hi, I accidentally kill -1'd the panels in xfce, what's the command to load them up again? [04:14] xfce4-panel [04:14] alt+f2 [04:34] anybody home? [04:36] nope, not a soul [04:38] oh [04:40] !anyone | duwee [04:40] duwee: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [04:40] a thousand pardons [04:42] in synaptic i saw kde base... where can one find gnome base? [04:48] also... i've seen conflicting advice on installing real player... best practice, anyone? [04:49] perhaps debian-base? [04:49] <<< nubi [04:49] unless you have an explicit reason, why bother? It's a pretty crappy delivery method [04:49] * boskone is not all that much better [04:52] it was my impression that xubuntu comes with xfce and gnome installed [04:52] nope, just xfce [04:52] ah [04:52] noticed gnome components in synaptic [04:52] was wondering [04:52] I don't believe it takes much, if anything, to get gnome apps installed in xfce, though [04:53] well, synaptic lists packages for all 3 releases [04:53] (ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu) [04:53] gotcha [04:53] and xfce is done up by some of the original gnome devs, to do away with the cruft [04:53] and over some design differences, I believe [04:53] so far i'm jazzed about xubuntu [04:54] I use it. :) [04:54] xine didn't pan out... [04:54] so i got flashplayer [04:54] The only issue I'm having (which I keep forgetting to ask in here about) is that shortcuts for my xfce4-popup-menu never work. :p [04:54] what're you trying to play? [04:54] <<< listening to pandora radio [04:54] ah [04:55] was hoping to listen to npr [04:55] too [04:55] tried rhythmbox? [04:55] I think it can do webcasts [04:55] saw some docs about it [04:56] do u use it? [04:56] rhythmbox? [04:56] Install it, crank it up. :) [04:57] It doesn't have global shortcuts, but you can set 'em pretty easily through the keyboard settings [04:57] customizable within the app? [04:57] Nah, from XFCE [04:57] you set whatever shortcut to rhythmbox-client --whatever [04:57] play-pause, next, stop, etc [04:58] My MM keys don't work, but that's 'cause I'm too lazy to set them up. :D [04:58] on the shortcuts tab? [04:58] so I have prev, play-pause, and next set to win+z, x, and c (respectively) [04:58] yea [04:58] click add? [04:59] yea [04:59] I think you have to add a theme, then you can add actual shortcuts [04:59] ah [04:59] I don't believe you can modify default (through the app, at least) [04:59] Makes sense, when you think about it; always have a good fallback set. ;) [04:59] <<< downloading rhythmbox [05:00] I'm using it now. ;) [05:00] comes with gstreamer [05:00] not for webcasts, just files [05:00] but I see options for podcasts and internet radio [05:00] was wondering which gstreamer to get [05:00] unless you have a problem just use defaults [05:01] is it necessary to close open programs like firefox when installing rhythmbox? [05:02] nope [05:02] cool [05:02] only time you should have to close any program is when modifying the program itself or--maybe--installing plugins [05:03] you mean close and reopen after installing? [05:03] yea [05:03] i like xubuntu even more [05:05] that's pretty standard for linux; it's not as big on rebooting and such as windows [05:05] Dunno about OSX; haven't used it much at all [05:06] could you explain about sessions? [05:06] is it like a user profile? [05:07] config stuff? [05:07] sessions...? [05:07] like logging in? [05:07] yeah and that prompt to save at logout [05:08] well, it's just what it says: session [05:08] so when you log in you're starting a session, when you log out you're ending it [05:08] how much is saved? [05:09] does it use more memory? [05:09] i know a little bit about hive cleanup [05:09] not realy [05:09] saves window positions, I think open apps [05:10] so when you log in stuff automatically opens up [05:10] * boskone tries to remember last time he logged in [05:10] of course, as I'm prosetylizing linux my sansa is industriously going nuts. :p [05:11] you mean you can just stay logged in and the shell doesn't deteriorate? [05:11] not particularly [05:11] some programs will leak [05:11] I close Opera for that very reason [05:11] i have opera [05:11] but in general you'd probably have to stay logged in for a horribly long time [05:11] but can't get flash to work [05:11] Yea, mine's acting weird [05:11] same plugin works fine in firefox [05:12] so if I just absolutely have to have flash for something, I open ff [05:12] ff? [05:12] again, just haven't been assed to look at it and get it fixed [05:12] firefox [05:12] ah [05:12] I'll have to run Windows come May, thought, for Age of Conan. :\ [05:13] what is armorapp? [05:13] amarok [05:14] it's a QT-based music player [05:14] it's nice, but too heavy for my taste [05:14] i thought it was a firewall [05:14] lol [05:14] hehe [05:14] related to ip tables or something [05:15] I'm assuming you actually mean "amarokapp" [05:15] armor app [05:15] do you use firestarter? [05:16] I don't actually bother with a firewall on my desktop, as my router's is sufficient [05:16] ah [05:17] how can i monitor my open ports? [05:17] netstat, I believe [05:18] -n switch, something like that [05:20] net tools is already installed [05:20] will that help [05:20] ? [05:21] try the netstat command from a terminal [05:21] netstat -n, that is [05:21] is see netstat-nat in the list [05:21] come again? [05:22] my terminal doesn't work right [05:22] how so [05:22] ? [05:22] logs me out when i launch it [05:22] hrm...try alt+f2, then run xterm [05:22] that's why i installed kde base in the first place [05:22] O.o [05:23] any ideas what's up with my xfce terminal [05:23] ? [05:24] not offhand [05:24] does xterm work correctly? [05:25] should run in terminal be flagged? [05:26] nope [05:26] yeah! [05:27] my ff won't close? [05:27] heh [05:27] does it respond at all? [05:27] nope [05:27] holy crap...2330? O.o [05:27] LOL [05:27] ah, then it's just locked up. [05:27] but what to do? [05:27] lol [05:28] killall firefox-bin from the terminal [05:28] "killall firefox-bin", perhaps I should be more explicit [05:28] "killall firefox-bin" ? [05:28] yea [05:28] that did it [05:29] you're a genius [05:29] thanx [05:29] I think you can do the same with ctrl+alt+esc, or something; there's a shortcut in the shortcuts app for xkill [05:29] I'm used to killall, so I just use it. :) [05:29] here's a last bit before I hit the hay, save you some annoyance possibly [05:29] download "screen" [05:30] screen? [05:30] long story short, you can open a screen session in a terminal, do stuff, and detach the session and leave the stuff running [05:30] for instance, I use irssi for irc in a screen session on my fileserver [05:30] so I can ssh in to it from, say, a buddy's house and take up IRC without necessarily missing anything [05:31] or in the Bad Old Days when I used Gentoo, I could leave stuff building without having to stay logged in [05:31] thanks for the chat [05:31] anyway, good luck with xubuntu; it's past my curfew. ;) === boskone is now known as boskone|sleep [05:32] pleasent dreams === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [06:34] Hi, I have a question [06:35] When i tried installing Xubuntu on my system I always get an error saying something like BIOS bug APIO not connected or something [07:03] Hi! I'm using beta Hardy with Hungarian language packages. That works fine mostly. But at switching off the goodby screen offers me these option: "Switch user", "Log out", "Újraindítás" ... What package have I missed if the buttons mix en & hu labels? === gaurdro is now known as gaurdro|away === gaurdro|away is now known as gaurdro [09:24] where are settings for characters stored? [09:24] this morning everything is smaller [09:24] i didn't touch anything [09:59] anyone had hypothesis in the meantime? =P [10:31] Iskr: maybe your graphic card detected your monitor wrong and assumed different dpi? [10:32] TheSheep, why today? [10:32] anyway, it is possible [10:32] how i change it? [10:36] you can set the dimesnions of your monitor screen in your xorg.conf, then it won't try to detect it [10:38] i have a 15" screen... [10:40] Iskr: there are some details here: http://scanline.ca/dpi/ [10:40] thanks [10:42] still i don't know how to set the 96 value [10:45] i also have this in Xorg.0.log [10:45] http://xubuntulinux.blogspot.com/2006/07/ubuntu-set-correct-dpi-for-x-server.html [10:45] ==) SIS(0): DPI set to (100, 100) [10:45] but i@is:~$ xdpyinfo | grep resolution [10:45] resolution: 73x73 dots per inch [10:47] edit ~/.config/xfce4/Xft.xrdb (if using XFCE4) and add line: <- i already tried it. didn't work [10:56] let's try displaysize... [11:04] it worked [11:07] Iskr: great [11:08] thank you very much [11:51] any idea on how to fix the busybox stucking? [12:30] yooo guysss [12:30] can i get a bit of tech support [12:31] only if you let us know what is going on :) [12:31] my taskbars arent there anymore [12:32] like neither the top or the bottom one [12:32] jnet: hit the alt + F2 buttons and type xfce4-panels & [12:33] and hit enter [12:35] comes up with program failed to run? [12:37] jnet: try xfce4-panel - without the 's" on the end - sorry [12:38] oh wicked [12:38] pheww [12:38] will they stay up if i reboot? [12:38] they should [12:39] what happened to make them go? [12:39] no clue [12:39] i dont use the machine [12:39] well - try it and see [12:40] if it doesn't you can add that command to autostarted apps [12:40] oh no i see [12:41] when i go to quit on the top panel next to the time [12:41] it no longer comes up with the 5 options [12:41] i just get exit xfce panel [12:41] ? [12:42] how do i get the 5 options back on that neat little menu [12:42] open the session manager and then sessions and startup and check some boxes [12:43] there should be an option to show hibernate etc [12:43] guys, can i install the 64bit version on a pentium D 3,2 machine? [12:44] session manager? [12:44] sessions and startup settings? [12:45] jnet: it is in the first option when you open the applications menu [12:46] applications - settings - ? [12:46] settings manager!! [12:47] found it? [12:47] ban my ip punk ass kids [12:48] ban me punk ass kids [12:48] prophet muhammad sucks dick [12:48] prophet muhammad sucks dick [12:48] prophet muhammad sucks camel dick [12:48] prophet muhammad sucks lizard dick [12:48] prophet muhammad sucks camel dick [12:48] ban me punk ass kids [12:48] ban me punk ass kids [12:48] BAN ME [12:48] The_Druid-: looks like you can [12:49] prophet muhammad sucks camel dick [12:49] can't get it started [12:49] prophet muhammad sucks camel dick [12:49] I'm going to write a perl script to auto-vandalize ubuntu channels [12:49] `wvdial isp1` [12:49] seems that it cannot find the boot device [12:49] `poff` [12:49] `wvdial isp2` [12:49] `poff` [12:49] prophet muhammad sucks dick [12:50] ^? yeah settings manager - sessions an startup - and ticked all the boxes in logout settings [12:50] prophet muhammad sucks dick [12:51] jnet: click the shutdown icon and see if its' changed [12:51] The_Druid-: has the live cd started at all? [12:51] yeah, it only stucks when i finish installing [12:52] and try to start it without the cd [12:52] nope? same thing [12:52] ooh if i go to quit in the applications menu the warning is different? [12:54] it says- unable to quit session ' quitting the session requires that the xfce session (xfce4-session) is running, but it was not detected. Please quite Xfce via another means [12:55] jnet: try a reboot with the command - sudo shutdown -r now - and at the login click on session and make sure you select xfce [12:56] The_Druid-: I would boot in the live cd and reinstall grub to hd0 [12:57] how do i do that? [12:57] '- sudo....now -' with the hyphens [12:57] oh right [13:00] The_Druid-: in the live cd open a terminal - type sudo grub - then - find /boot/grub/stage1 - it will give an answer (hd,3) or similar - type root (hd0,3) substituting the answer - then type - setup (hd0) [13:00] then type quit and reboot [13:01] if you're on another comp I'll walk you through it [13:01] ere4si: thx, i'll try to do it here, and if it doesn't work, i'll get back to windows [13:01] k [13:02] eyyyyy [13:02] thanks matey [13:02] **loveeee [13:02] :) === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche [14:10] Hi! how do i edit grub (boot manager)? where do i find it? [14:10] !grub [14:10] grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [14:10] !boot [14:10] Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto [14:11] mo gui? [14:11] no gui? [14:11] no, I'm afraid not [14:11] thanks [14:12] messing with grub is a pretty low-level thing [14:12] something new for me to learn [14:12] great [14:13] just loving xubuntu....even all the mistakes i make lol [14:13] glad to hear that [14:35] wish me luck...time to reboot...thanks for your help [14:37] now that i fixed that thing [14:37] my gnubackgammon board looks too small [14:37] -.- === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche [15:09] good morning everybody, today I booted my computer and xfce is behaving strangely. To start with the applications don't have any borders... How can I fix this? [15:11] hi - is the 8.04 fairly safe to use ? [15:11] It is not recommended for production machines [15:12] there are still the odd update which seems to break things [15:12] i just need it for a laptop [15:12] The official release is the 24th [15:12] yes i know .. but im eager [15:12] If you're willing to accept that it *might* break, then yes, 8.04 is pretty safe to use [15:13] and on 24th will i have an option to automatically upgrade to the new release? [15:13] Yes [15:13] hmm [15:14] is there a big difference between 7.10 and 8.04? [15:18] is there a torrent for 8.04? === Mattz is now known as MatBoy [15:35] hey there anyone know the score on the distribution upgrade? [15:59] hey again, how can i get the history of packages that i had installed? [16:07] birgi, synaptic? [16:08] Iskr: oh I did not know that synaptic was showing the history, thanks :) [16:11] Stroganoff, Evening, I noticed that the memory use keeps slowly increasing, is this normal, and I still haven't any sound :( [16:12] to what extent? it shouldnt increase while doing nothing. [16:16] I rebooted yesterday and had 22MiB/186MiB, it has sat idle till now (aprox 16 hrs) and is at 73.6MiB/186MiB [16:16] wow [16:17] run this command: ps axl > usage.txt [16:17] !pastebin usage.txt [16:20] well, it seems to be locked-up [16:21] mouse won't move [16:21] ctrl+alt+f8 [16:22] I got a blank screen with a blinking cursor but can't type anything [16:23] ctrl+alt+f7 [16:23] ctrl+alt+backspace [16:25] looks like it made it partway through a boot and has stopped [16:26] last thing on the screen is Starting X display manager: slim [16:28] join #minimalubuntu === boskone|sleep is now known as boskone [17:37] anyone here today? [17:40] nope, everyone's nursing hangovers [17:40] ;) [17:41] do you have a question? [17:41] Hi, I was wondering: I originally installed Ubuntu. Then I fell in love with Xubuntu on a live-CD version. So I used Synaptic to install everything XFCE. Xubuntu and the apps like Abiword, etc. Does that give a full Xubuntu equivalent now? [17:41] if you used xubuntu-desktop, yes. [17:42] if you installed piecemeal, probably not quite [17:42] :) [17:42] also - are the new versions of Xubuntu released at the same time as Ubuntu & Kubuntu [17:42] boskone: why not? [17:43] it would be silly to multibooot between Ubuntu and Xubuntu when all I need is choose sessions, no? [17:43] gNewPower: there are a lot of packages involved in any of the GUI choices; I'd be surprised if you managed to get them all. [17:43] yea [17:43] but you can install both ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop, no problems [17:43] boskone: the GUI I configured myself, and as far as I can tell I now have all the Xubuntu aps. [17:44] gNewPower: then you probably don't actually _care_ if you have the whole xubuntu experience, yes? ;) [17:44] If it'd ain [17:44] 't broke, and all that [17:44] boskone: yes, I fell in love with Xubuntu, badly :-) [17:44] the only think I dislike about Xubuntu is the menu editor, which I do not even understand to tell you the truth... [17:44] Honestly, just run apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (or install from synaptic), and see if it installs anything. :) [17:45] the menu editor is unusable [17:45] yea, the menu editor is a bit odd [17:45] I dunno that I'd go quite that far [17:45] so how do you guys edit your menus? [17:45] it breaks the menu file, boskone [17:45] I actually just don't use it, to be honest [17:45] try moving the "programs dir" hook [17:45] me neither. i use icewm ;) [17:45] hehe [17:46] I just got in the habit of using the run dialogue and program [17:46] lemme guess: you use the GNOME Alarcate menu editor, right? [17:47] are the new versions of Xubuntu released at the same time as Ubuntu & Kubuntu? [17:47] yup [17:47] same repos and all [17:48] yea [17:48] My current xubuntu install started life as a 7.04 server cd, because the download was taking forever. :) [17:48] boskone: so if I have both Ubuntu and Xubuntu installed the updates will automatically updates both distros? [17:48] yea [17:48] sweeeeeeet!! [17:48] there's no real core difference between the two [17:49] same repos, mostly the same devs [17:49] er, maintainers [17:49] except that I find Xubuntu far more elegant, faster, and better designed than Ubuntu and, even more so, Kubuntu. I just love Xubuntu! [17:49] i love the flowers [17:49] Xubuntu has the ideal balance between elegance and speed, I think. [17:50] well, xfce isn't an ubuntu project. ;) [17:50] Stroganoff: what flowers? [17:50] daffodills? [17:50] the band, I'm assuming [17:50] boskone: XFCE is BSD, right? [17:50] what band? :D [17:50] xfce is not bsd. [17:50] gNewPower: no, just a UI [17:51] iirc, it was started by some of the original gnome devs [17:51] over design issues or something [17:51] really, I thought XFCE had its roots in* BSD... oh well, my ignorance has no limits :-) [17:53] bye, guys, see you soon! [17:53] having dispensed my daily dose of probably misinformation...:) [18:08] xubuntu seems to crash for no reason when it is idle for quite sometime [18:08] :( [18:08] then it restarts [18:09] weird [18:09] boskone: very [18:09] checked dmesg and syslog? [18:09] not yet [18:10] just recovered from a crash [18:10] boskone: anyway.. Am running the Beta [18:10] ah [18:10] well, one can't expect perfect stability from prereleases. ;) [18:11] boskone: If only I knew the reason, I could atleast file a bug report [18:11] best bet is to check the dmesg, syslog, and xorg.log [18:12] boskone: I am reading syslog at the moment [18:16] boskone: i will do it the next time, if a next time occurs! [18:56] i tried to install the beta and i couildn't install GRUB. I check if i had a valid cd and i made a new one. Should i download again? [19:00] if the check says that the cd you burned was wrong, then perhaps the fault happened during download yes.... [19:01] thanks [19:01] wiirad: even though md5-checksums discover most errors you can't be sure that it does find all.... I guess safest is to download again yes.... possible compare the two download.... [19:03] hmm is it 11 days until xbuntu 8.04 releases too? (release the same day as normal ubuntu?) [19:04] zoobox: more or less [19:04] zoobox: there is usually a small delay [19:04] zoobox: severa hours or so [19:04] several [19:12] aha hehe. [19:13] as long as it isn't like fluxbuntu that haven't released the final version of 7.10 yet.... :-) [20:59] Hi! I'm using Hardy beta with Hungarian language packs. At shutdown I have mixed labels for the buttons like "Switch user", "Újraindítás" "Log out". What package might be missing? Where are they defined? [20:59] rough guess, but the buttons may not be fully translated yet [21:00] it is prerelease, after all. ;) [21:01] I can hardly imagine. But if it is so how can I check it in https://translations.launchpad.net/ ? [21:02] I go to https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+lang/hu and I check what? [21:03] not sure; gnome-session-2.0, maybe? [21:09] You might be right. But very strange...I found "Újraindítás" (Restart) in this as well as "Switch User" (Felhasználóváltás). I just don't get why I can't see all of them at shutdown. [21:11] Sorry, I'm a native English speaker so I've never had to mess with localisation. ;) [21:15] Thanks anyway! [21:51] is there such things as a Xubuntu DVD and, if yes, where can I download it? [21:52] gNewPower: I think that the ubuntu dvd will contain all the packages from ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu, etc. [21:53] ok. great! I am downloading the other one right now. thanks! [22:54] hello, this is the first time i am in need of using irc channel so sorry if i do something that is aginst some rules - i need help with xubuntu running on asus eee pc. i have just installed it, everything works perfect, except one thing - i followed this guide - http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:customization (part - Shutdown when battery is low) and removed gnome power manager. I want to use xfce manager. But I am not able to add icon [22:54] on panel. It is not there. I am a newbie to GNU/Linux. Have been using it about a month. If someone could give me direction how to fix this, I would be glad. [22:57] I didn't know xfce has a gnome power manager [22:57] there is a battery plugin for showing the battery state [22:58] i was surprise for me too but yes [22:58] monishka: I mean, I wdidn't know that xfce has its own power manager, sorry [23:00] do you have any idea what can be wrong? why do i not see it on my panel? [23:01] there is xfce4-bettery-plugin [23:02] monishka: what are you doing exactly? [23:03] i did exactly as it is written here http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:customization in "Shutdown when battery is low" part [23:03] * TheSheep reads [23:04] monishka: and which part doesn't work? [23:07] i dont know, i am pretty much a newbie to linux, ... well, i removed gnome power manager and did the editing part, then I tried to add the plugin to panel, and I does not show up. I dont see any battery state monitor. [23:07] since eee pc is a notebook, i would appriciate such monitor :-) [23:11] I installed 8.04 on my laptop which is connected to tv through Svideo cable. When I press power button on laptop and function + svideo out, i see the pic on tv. When it all loads up to the screen where im asked to enter user and pass, it turns of and i see image only on laptop, and cant get it to show anything on tv after that. How can this be fixed? [23:16] monishka: sorry, was afk, you do right click on the panel, select 'add item', then the battery plugin? [23:17] boolka: can you pastebin the result of running 'xrandr' in terminal? [23:19] TheSheep give me a sec [23:27] boolka: you can try the command 'xrandr --output TV --auto' [23:32] i am sorry to bother, sometimes, i just dont understand.... i tried to add this plugin to two panels and it did not work, now i tried ... just to see "what if" ... and created third panel, added it, and it shows up. maybe there is something wrong with my panel, but i cannot see what. it must be hidden somewhere but i cannot find it, i am sorry to bother and thank you for your time [23:33] http://pastebin.com/m7693b07a [23:33] damn, sorry, my chat did not scroll down i did not see what you wrote [23:33] TheSheep: http://pastebin.com/m7693b07a [23:34] boolka: so it claims your s-video is disconnected... [23:34] boolka: try this: xrandr --output S-video --auto [23:35] monishka: I think there is some bug with adding some panel plugins, not sure [23:36] TheSheep: currently it is.. I bought a vga to rca/svideo cable, but it dont work either :( [23:36] TheSheep: do I try that command once im connected to the tv? [23:36] boolka2: yes [23:36] boolka2: play with it, see 'xrandr --help' for help summary [23:37] also another problem [23:37] boolka2: and 'man xrandr' for more detailed description [23:38] xubuntu is only using like 2/3 of my screen space [23:38] boolka2: that's because it thinks you have LVDS screen connected [23:38] boolka2: that is smaller than your screen [23:38] boolka2: and it's trying to fit it on that [23:39] how do i fix that? [23:39] boolka2: xrandr --output LVDS --off [23:39] boolka2: you can also disable it in your xorg.conf [23:39] well it seems there is a bug, never mind, now i know that it is installed and working, so i will try to find some solution, thank you, good night (0:39 in my town) [23:41] TheSheep: i did tha xrandr --outpu lvds --off [23:41] but nothing changed [23:42] boolka2: :/ [23:42] boolka2: is the output of xrandr alone different now? [23:42] what do you mean [23:42] maybe you need to use LVDS instead of lvds [23:42] uppercase [23:43] oooh [23:44] it worked i thin [23:44] omg it did [23:44] ty!!! [23:45] now if we can only get the svideo output to work or at least the vga to rca cable [23:45] boolka2: well, the things that the 'xvrt' command lists are various displays of your computer [23:45] boolka2: and their state [23:46] boolka2: you can also change them using various options [23:46] boolka2: so I guess you need to experiment with this [23:46] sounds messy [23:46] boolka2: google might helps too [23:47] its all a bit more tought cuase my backlight on the lcd screen of monitor dont work :( [23:48] http://www.joshgerdes.com/2007/10/29/s-video-tv-out-with-ubuntu-710-on-dell-xps-m140-laptop/ [23:48] this one looks good [23:49] let me see [23:55] hmm looks promising [23:55] one more thing, how do i install flash plugins for firefox?