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JontheEchidnaapachelogger: If I understand correctly I'll need advocation from 2 motus before an motu will upload the package, correct?01:41
yuriydear kded4, please stop dying02:13
* JontheEchidna wonders when they'll release an nvidia-glx package that corresponds with the current kernel03:09
* JontheEchidna sleeps03:17
nixternaljjesse: wth is up with Michigan..I was there since Friday and all it did was rain03:45
Jucatoit rained here too! whatta coinwinkydink :)03:46
nixternalI am trying to get ahold of my ride for Penguicon, and I don't even have his recent info...hrmm03:46
nixternalman, it rained for 36+ hours straight03:46
Jucatoride for penguicon? so simple. do a tuxcart :)03:47
nixternalI emailed all of the chicago lists hoping he reads at least one of them03:47
nixternalotherwise jcastro's friend Gabriel and I will be walking :)03:48
JucatoKopete 0.55 (KDE4) is freaky... since Yahoo pics don't work, it's like having so many green eyeballs staring at you...03:48
Jucatohow many days till Hardy?03:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about countdown - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:50
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ScottK2Riddell, yuriy (and one of you please tell awen when he's next around) - Just uploaded kde-guidance again.  yuriy (and awen) thanks for contributing.04:46
yuriyScottK2: thanks :) hope it doesn't cause 100 other bugs this time04:57
* ScottK2 too since I uploaded this one ;-)04:58
ScottK2I did look for issues that might break the api and I think this one is clean.04:58
yuriyand this is why *some* languages have private functions04:59
ScottK2Python does too if you properly wrap them inside an object.05:00
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yuriyiijm or do we need to do a better job of milestoning bugs?05:18
ScottK2restricted-manager-core, ubiquity-frontend-mythbuntu, jockey-common, and displayconfig-gtk are all rdepends of guidance-backends, so in retrospect we should have tested/thought it through better.05:24
ScottK2This late in the cycle it'd have made sense to at lease download them and grep the source to see if they called the function we were changing.05:24
yuriymy remark was unrelated, at least not directly. i noticed that you said it was a fix for a milestoned bug and i think that's the first time i've heard that for kubuntu05:27
yuriyi've seen bugs "nominated" sometimes but never a milestone, and i dont' even know how one gets set05:28
yuriyheh https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/egonas1 i guess that's complete05:34
* ScottK2 needs to get to bed. We can discuss another time.05:35
Seregahi there!06:29
eagles0513875apachelogger: hey i somehow broke my whole installation last night lol back up and running06:33
Hobbseeoh dear.06:34
eagles0513875Hobbsee: lol06:35
eagles0513875im working on downloading the necessary updated pkgs then i have to install all the dev stuff and pick up where i left off and that was validating my gpg key06:35
apacheloggerô mon dieu!06:36
eagles0513875first i broke kde4 then it slowly got progressivly worse until  i couldnt boot at all lol ended up getting a kernel panic06:37
apacheloggereagles0513875: good luck, if you don't manage to produce a fix until tomorrow I will have to create one myself since the issue has to be fixed for hardy06:37
apacheloggerhow the fuck did you manage to do that? Oo06:37
eagles0513875apachelogger: ok u r more then welcome to go ahead and fix it im sure i can find some other bugs i can fix or stuff i can pkg06:38
apacheloggerthat sounds like giving up06:38
eagles0513875im not givign up im just rather busy and im probably no where near getting everything i need setup i need setup my gpg key06:38
eagles0513875and probably a whole buch of other stuff as well ill see what i can do im really going to try get it done pkged and everything by tomorrow though06:39
apacheloggereagles0513875: you probably should digg in the packaging howto some days, because that fix is actually straight forward considering I even gave you a step-by-step howto06:40
Jucato"digg in"? :D06:40
Jucatohehe :D06:40
eagles0513875apachelogger: thats what i was doing before i broke everything reading it goign through it and setting stuff up06:41
apacheloggerthere are like 3 things you need to setup for a packging fix06:41
eagles0513875im goign to have to take a step back no setup my chroot environment again then all the pkgs needed then the gpg key06:42
apacheloggereagles0513875: just in case.... you know what a gpg key is, right?06:43
eagles0513875apachelogger: it functions as a signature of the maintainer06:44
apacheloggereagles0513875: do you think it might be important to backup that key?06:44
apacheloggerok, please do so right after you re-created one :P06:44
eagles0513875ok good thing i hadnt verified it yet lol06:44
eagles0513875after i get kernel update im off for now i have lectures today. going to try and get things done06:46
eagles0513875apachelogger: ill be on later today06:47
* apachelogger has an english exam in half an hour06:48
apacheloggerand no clue which topics he should know about06:48
stdinapachelogger: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/kde4-backports/kde4.0 :)07:02
apacheloggerstdin: bluetiful :D07:03
apacheloggerhm, someone write tdown that word07:04
apacheloggerbluetiful = KDE version of beautiful07:04
stdinhmm, my short "here's a bzr repo" email to k-m-kde4 has turned into a small essay...07:17
yuriyapachelogger: so SuSE isn't the KDE version of beautiful?07:21
_StefanS_hey there08:02
eagles0513875apachelogger: im back09:26
eagles0513875what pkgs can diff and patch and lintian and linda be found in10:07
jpatrickapachelogger: pong, sorry no net at home10:07
jpatrickRiddell: ping10:07
eagles0513875sup j10:08
jpatrickhey eagles051387510:08
Jucato!info patch10:08
ubotupatch (source: patch): Apply a diff file to an original. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.9-4 (gutsy), package size 93 kB, installed size 188 kB10:08
Jucato!info diff10:08
ubotudiff (source: diffutils): File comparison utilities. In component main, is required. Version 2.8.1-12ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 110 kB, installed size 744 kB10:08
eagles0513875so those r already incleded somewhere in all this10:09
* Jucato introduces eagles0513875 to http://packages.ubuntu.com10:09
eagles0513875Jucato: im there already lol10:09
* Hobbsee suggests using command-not-found to find them.10:09
Hobbseeeagles0513875: you appear to be incapable of using it?10:09
jpatrickRiddell: http://www.kubuntu-es.org/ appears to be up and running, I'll have to poke rouzic about who runs it..10:09
* eagles0513875 :\ needs to remember to use it10:10
apacheloggerjpatrick: nvm10:16
apacheloggeryuriy: suse gnome > suse kde10:17
jpatrickapachelogger: aww :(10:17
eagles0513875apachelogger: lol10:17
apacheloggerjpatrick: well, if you want to backport amarok to gutsy.... ;-)10:18
eagles0513875kde4 has taken on the suse look10:18
apacheloggereagles0513875: orly?10:18
eagles0513875apachelogger: the setup is proceeding at a rapid pace10:18
jpatrickapachelogger: funny, someone was asking for that in #kubuntu-es10:18
apacheloggereagles0513875: u r not up2date10:19
apacheloggerjpatrick: well, it's out for 2 days now, and even longer in hardy ;-)10:19
eagles0513875apachelogger: the lay out of the k menu now in kde4 is vry similar to open suse kde 3.5 layout10:19
apacheloggereagles0513875: well, it got adopted10:19
Jucatoeagles0513875: naturally10:19
eagles0513875i hate to say it kde4 still has long way to go10:20
Jucatoit has been ported from/based on Kickoff, so of course it would look like Kickoff10:20
eagles0513875its going to be rather nice once it comes out10:20
jpatrickapachelogger: well, I'll look into it when I can.. probably this afternoon10:20
Jucatounless you're running trunk, I won't qualify that as an accurate conclusion :)10:21
eagles0513875let me make sure i go this stright to pkg u need to have setup a chroot gpg key and u have to update or crate a new changelog in source before repackaging10:21
ubotugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts10:22
* apachelogger agrees with Jucato10:23
* apachelogger is compiling trunk again10:23
apacheloggeronly took me 4 months ;-)10:23
JucatoWarning: probable borkage due to porting of Plasma to WoC10:24
eagles0513875i somehow borked my installation last night10:24
apacheloggerplasma is overrated10:24
apacheloggerkdesktop ftw :P10:24
Jucatohahah :)10:24
eagles0513875im trying to not bork it again today and get this bug fixed and checked by apache10:25
* apachelogger is wondering how to break a system with a packging fix anyway :P10:25
eagles0513875i have chroot setup and gpg key which i need to verify is that all i need to setup10:25
eagles0513875apachelogger: lol i was screwing around with some things and it borked it10:25
eagles0513875is anyone else experiencing this when i type sudo init 6 for some reason the screen goes blank and hangs even when using the icons to shutdown or restart it just gives me a black screen and hangs10:26
eagles0513875im on 64bit hardy10:27
apacheloggerstdin: nice mail10:27
* Jucato has a very nice memory of the chroot instructions in the packaging guide :)10:28
Jucatothe guide suggested mounting (binding?) /home to the chroot... and one morning, upon waking up, I ran rm -rf / in the chroot to clean it... then I wondered why it's taking so long :)10:29
Jucatobefore I knew it... my 32GB /home was reduced to about 10GB :)10:29
apacheloggerô mon dieu!10:29
apacheloggerc'est terrible10:30
jpatrickJucato: I once cleared /var and I went from 8GB to 2GB :/10:30
eagles0513875knowing me i would have borked my whole install lol10:31
eagles0513875lol and funny thing im working on my linux cert10:31
Jucatoword of advice.. just dont't mount/bind your /home in your chroot (as the guide formerly suggested)...10:32
eagles0513875i didnt do anything of the sort just created the chroot10:33
eagles0513875had it build it at least10:33
eagles0513875need to log out and back in really fast brb10:34
* Jucato begins the timer10:35
CheGuevaraeagles0513875, which certification10:36
CheGuevaraam thinking about it as well10:36
eagles0513875lpi(linux professional institute) 10110:36
eagles0513875yay i didnt bork anything getting my virtual box to work10:36
eagles0513875im learning on centos cuz alot of questions are asked on it nice thing when u r taking the exam u can specify if ur going ot be using a debian or redhat aka centos os as ur os for answering the questions10:37
eagles0513875there r 4 parts to the lpi certification with the hardest one being the first one10:38
CheGuevarahmm thanks10:39
eagles0513875no problem ill be in here quite alot so if u have any other questions feel free to ask10:41
ryanakcastdin: wouldn't a simple checkout suffice (instead of a branch?)10:43
jpatrickeagles0513875: why not use debian?10:43
eagles0513875jpatrick: dunno10:44
eagles0513875contact lpi10:44
eagles0513875ask them lol10:44
eagles0513875in the case of my course alot of the hands on stuff we r doing is on a centos vm10:45
eagles0513875which im doing on virtual box10:46
eagles0513875has anyone had any reboot or shutdown issues with hardy10:47
eagles0513875how do i back up my gpg key10:50
jpatrickeagles0513875: cp -r ~/.gnupg /some/where10:50
eagles0513875what file is it thats in that folder10:52
jpatrickeagles0513875: or: gpg --output mykey.gpg --armor --export-secret-keys keyID10:52
jpatrickeagles0513875: it's encrypted in secring.gpg10:53
jpatrickeagles0513875: just make sure the secret key is kept safe10:53
eagles0513875could i just do a simple cp10:54
eagles0513875to the secring10:54
Jucato<jpatrick> eagles0513875: cp -r ~/.gnupg /some/where <--- simple cp10:54
eagles0513875i know bout that but what i would like to know is will the machine still be able to read the copied file or would jpatricks other way be better10:55
jpatrickeagles0513875: well, either way, they'll still need your passphrase10:56
eagles0513875gotcha lol im goign to kiss(keep it simple stupid) lol with me and my borking record i think simple is the best10:56
* jpatrick out10:58
eagles0513875later j10:58
eagles0513875anything else i need besides pbuilder and those other pkgs and a gpg key11:01
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:05
eagles0513875apachelogger: here goes nothing im goign to start fixing these bugs11:11
eagles0513875apachelogger: i have a chroot envrionment setup gpg key as well is that all i need11:14
apacheloggereagles0513875: pre-fixing, yes11:16
eagles0513875ok *breathes deeply* hope what i do is to ur satisfaction11:16
jussi01!u | eagles051387511:17
ubotueagles0513875: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..11:17
eagles0513875darn it11:17
* eagles0513875 bangs head on desk till starts bleeding slightly11:17
eagles0513875apachelogger: all i have to do is mod the change log right11:18
apachelogger!u | eagles051387511:18
ubotueagles0513875: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..11:18
eagles0513875lol i didnt say it that time lol11:18
apacheloggerstill the question is a miracle to me11:19
apacheloggerif it is a question at all11:19
eagles0513875my question is this do i create a new change log or modify the one thats there11:19
eagles0513875and if i just have to modify it how do i go about doing so11:20
Hobbseedch -i.11:20
eagles0513875will that allow me to modify the one thats already there11:20
eagles0513875now i did that and its saying that its not writable11:21
Hobbseewhy not?11:22
apacheloggerdid you unpack the sources as root? Oo11:22
eagles0513875i used apt-get11:23
eagles0513875on the cli11:23
eagles0513875nm answered my own question11:23
eagles0513875darn changelog froze kate for me11:27
eagles0513875what does dch -i11:28
CheGuevaraadds a new changelog entry11:28
eagles0513875ok for some reason brought up a blank like kate doc11:29
eagles0513875so i just write to that and it saves it to the change log11:29
eagles0513875im back12:12
eagles0513875apachelogger: is it essential that i be using the latest kernel12:13
Artemis_Fowlseele: ping #212:13
Riddelljpatrick: so you've no idea who's running it?12:14
Riddellhow about a meeting at wednesday at 11?12:20
RiddellSerega? kwwii? Hobbsee?12:20
Hobbseeutc, or?12:21
eagles0513875when i do sudo kate dhc -i it brings me a blank kate screen does this automatically then append it to the changelog12:21
SeregaRiddell: Hi, Jonathan. It would be cool.12:21
Hobbseedch -i is a command, not a file name.12:21
Hobbseeyou're trying to edit the non-existant file, dch.12:21
eagles0513875i got it no12:22
RiddellHobbsee: 11:00utc12:22
Hobbseewhat's a place with utc time?12:28
Riddellnowhere that I know12:29
Riddellmaybe iceland12:29
Riddellascention island?12:29
eagles0513875want me to google12:29
awen_iceland, azores ... and some places in W. africa12:30
eagles0513875lol sierra leon12:31
eagles0513875u guys would find this rather useful12:31
Hobbseei do use that, but i prefer to use the gnome clock applet12:32
eagles0513875lol i got so upset last night when i borked my kde4 and whole installation last night12:33
awen_eagles0513875: i like that you say "i borked" ;)12:33
Artemis_Fowlnah. don't you know your time zone? I for instance am in +2 so if I would like to be in the meeting 13:00 o' clock would be the time12:34
eagles0513875im in central europe llol i know im 7 hrs ahead of central us time lol12:34
HobbseeRiddell: is that our usual meeting time?12:34
eagles0513875awen_: i did bork it lol was hoping to get this bug that needs urgent fixing fixed last night lol im actulally  slowly working on it as we speak12:35
awen_the clock applet in kde3 has support for showing multiple timezones on mouse-over ... rather useful12:35
RiddellHobbsee: it is12:35
RiddellHobbsee: well, it was before summer time12:35
Riddellwe could change it for summer time12:36
Riddellor whatever the australian equivalent is :)12:36
Hobbseethen again, am i likely to be running kubuntu in the near future?12:36
Hobbseei'm already likely to be thrown off the council12:36
awen_eagles0513875: he ... /me often uses virtual machines for the first critical test12:37
Riddellcouncil membership it due for renewal in May12:37
\shHobbsee, but you are still on motu-release?  :)12:37
eagles0513875my borking of my entire install had nothing to do with the bug im working on its just me pulling a stupid one and 2ndly im on my old laptop since i cant get kubuntu on my new one so this is more like my test machine lol12:38
eagles0513875what would be nice so people dont bork their installations is that if they run e2fsck it asks if they want to schedule one at next boot up link windows does when the drives in use12:40
Hobbsee\sh: depends who's asking, and why :)12:40
eagles0513875awen_: thats how i ended up borking my install12:40
\shHobbsee, yokozar and I are in need an ack for a ia32-lib change :)12:41
awen_eagles0513875: sounds like a sure success of borking ... I12:41
Hobbsee\sh: you'll need me very drunk for that.12:41
eagles0513875awen_: lol yep j/w you experienceing any shutdown reboot issues cuz i seem to be either when i use the icons on the k menu or in command line with init 6 or 0 my screen goes black and nothing happens just hangs there and never reboots or turns off12:42
\shHobbsee, really :) it just needs a new lib inside..bug #182731 .. so we can fix the last sound issues on amd64 and PA for wine :)12:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 182731 in ia32-libs "Provide a lib32asound2-plugins package" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18273112:42
\shHobbsee, a debdiff is not usable for this package, though12:44
eagles0513875awen_: what controls the rebooting and shutdown sequences12:45
awen_eagles0513875: what i know it is the init scripts ... and some udev stuff12:46
eagles0513875i am thinking i might have found a rather critical bug that im bout to file12:46
eagles0513875cuz when i issue init 0 or 6 or use the log out buttons all i get is a blank scree no shutting down or no rebooting12:47
awen_eagles0513875: could be a very borked init-script or something like that... if it is on the borked pc12:48
eagles0513875awen_: i did a clean install this morning12:48
awen_eagles0513875: that is not good then ... maybe some of the log-files can reveal at least where it stalls?12:50
eagles0513875awen_: lol one bug at a time i need to get this bug fixed before tomorrow then i can work on something else12:50
eagles0513875awen_: where can i find the logs12:51
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eagles0513875wrong logs Hobbsee12:51
eagles0513875not of the irc my machines logs lol12:52
Hobbsee /var/log12:52
awen_eagles0513875: he, of course ... you can look in /var/log12:52
jussio1or use ksystemlog if you are a real gui type.... :P12:52
awen_eagles0513875: also try booting without the splash and quiet options ... will give you a lot more verbose output when changing runlevels12:53
eagles0513875awen_: already taken care of12:53
awen_eagles0513875: :)12:53
eagles0513875me no likey the splashy screenie lol12:53
eagles0513875what log do i need to look at exactly12:54
awen_eagles0513875: messages and syslog is usually a good place to start12:55
eagles0513875im going to go ahead and file a bug report for it and upload those 2 files12:56
eagles0513875i think otherwise ill do some sifting through the logs myself and see if i can fix it12:56
eagles0513875im off to a gd start just updated the changelog13:00
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: *poke* for re-revu13:01
seeleArtemis_Fowl: hi.  i got your video and i looked over it last night.  haven't had much chance to do more than that tho13:02
eagles0513875apachelogger: i got a question for ya before i do something and it borks things up for everyone else13:03
Artemis_Fowlseele: good. how did it look like?13:03
seeleArtemis_Fowl: like i said, i had concerned about how you put pages in tabs.. but other than that i didnt spend too much time on analysis yet13:03
eagles0513875awen_: u think u might help me out before i bork something up on the fix im working on13:04
eagles0513875awen_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/21652913:04
Artemis_Fowlseele: hmm...I think I will have to release soon so any changes you suggest will have to wait for the next version13:04
eagles0513875Artemis_Fowl: what u working on13:05
Artemis_Fowleagles0513875: KGRUBEditor: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KGRUBEditor?content=7544213:05
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awen_awen_: just ask, if there is anything you want me to test / look at13:05
awen_eagles0513875: ^^13:06
* awen_ is obviosly a bit self-centered today :P13:06
seeleArtemis_Fowl: this is for hardy?13:06
ScottK2awen_: Thanks for the Guidance update.13:06
eagles0513875awen_: can u take a look at that bug13:06
ScottK2I uploaded it last night.13:06
eagles0513875im not sure what in the source cod ei have to change13:07
Artemis_Fowlseele: not really. but all the features I intened for this release are almost done13:07
awen_ScottK2: i saw it this morning ... thanks to you also13:07
* ScottK2 crosses fingers.13:07
awen_eagles0513875: it's the debian/control file that has to be changed13:08
eagles0513875awen_: so i change the kde4 to kde313:08
awen_ScottK2: yeah, me too13:08
eagles0513875anythign that says kde4 in there or will it only bork stuff13:08
* awen_ has definately used his quota for breakage for this release13:08
Artemis_Fowlseele: please consider in your analysis that it is highly probable that a SystemSettings module will be created as a derivative from KGRUBEditor13:09
eagles0513875awen_: lol so im guessing u dont know13:09
seeleArtemis_Fowl: yes, which makes the pages on your second tab even more problematic13:09
Artemis_Fowlseele: :)13:09
awen_eagles0513875: it's a packaging issue ... right now it says that you should either install kdebase-bin-kde3 or kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 ... this should be changed to only kdebase-bin-kde313:10
eagles0513875only thing im finding is dependencies that say kde413:10
Artemis_Fowlseele: the Add/Edit/Copy/Remove Entry used to be actions in the toolbar and in the perspective of this becoming a module, I turned them into buttons13:10
* ScottK2 heads off for a day at Disney World. See you all later.13:11
eagles0513875later ScottK213:11
awen_ScottK2: enjoy13:11
* eagles0513875 wishes apachelogger was here lol13:11
awen_eagles0513875: hmm ... try look at the changelog; might already be fixed13:12
eagles0513875awen_: it hasnt been13:12
* eagles0513875 off to get some food13:13
awen_eagles0513875: here ... look at "aptitude show kdebase-bin"13:13
awen_eagles0513875: right in the beginning of the depends line13:13
eagles0513875im looking at the kdebase-bin-runtime-4.0.313:14
awen_look at "kdebase-bin" directly13:14
eagles0513875awen_: i c what ur saying but im looking at the source code i have on my machine13:15
eagles0513875im looking at the debian control of what i mentioned above and im not finding anything13:15
eagles0513875am i looking in the right place13:15
awen_eagles0513875: you should be ... can you find the kdebase-bin package there13:16
eagles0513875not there u want me to pastbin the control file13:16
awen_eagles0513875: which source-package are you looking at?13:17
eagles0513875awen_: the kdebase-runtime13:17
eagles0513875awen_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63167/13:18
awen_eagles0513875: it has been filed wrong, you should look in kdebase ... use "apt-get source kdebase-bin" to be sure to get the correct source to the binary package13:18
eagles0513875ok im going to change the pkg13:18
seeleArtemis_Fowl: if it turns in to a module, you have to be prepared that you won't be able to use the implicit save and will have to use save/cancel/reset functions instead13:19
eagles0513875awen_: i have kdebase it also seems like the bug is in the runtime as well13:19
Artemis_Fowlseele: yes. I know13:19
apacheloggereagles0513875: go read the packging guide13:19
Artemis_Fowlseele: this is one of the incomplete features yet13:19
awen_eagles0513875: the last comment by apachelogger is about a package in kdebase-runtime-bin-kde413:20
Artemis_Fowlseele: which will be in the impending release13:20
eagles0513875awen_: ok13:20
eagles0513875apachelogger: ok13:20
Artemis_Fowlseele: I've got the structure, so it won't be at all hard13:20
JontheEchidnaI have to be leaving in a minute or two here.13:27
JontheEchidnaSo see you all later13:28
Artemis_Fowlseele: last thing before I leave: consider the *uniqueness* of the app and its special needs. I am afraid the conventional methods won't fit to it13:35
* seele doesnt think its all that unique..13:37
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Tm_Thi hi13:46
awen_is it just me, or has flash gone broken in konqueror?13:56
Riddellawen_: kde 3 or 4?14:05
awen_Riddell: kde314:05
smarterawen_: Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't... reloading the page does the trick most of the time14:06
awen_smarter: it works only 20 % of the time here ... less than a week ago it worked flawlessly :(14:06
awen_and some pages using flash is simply impossible to get to work14:07
seeleRiddell: ping14:07
awen_smarter: http://youtube.com14:08
awen_when it doesn't work, it also partly locks ... can't use shortcut keys, can't mark text in the address bar etc.14:09
Riddellhi seele14:12
seelehi Riddell14:13
seelehave you seen this kgrubeditor?14:13
Riddellseele: not closely14:13
seeledid something change with how kernels are updated that makes having a grub editor a good ide anow?14:14
seelei thought that anytime you update a kernel via adept it rewrites the grub config options14:14
Riddellseele: yes it should14:15
Riddellcommon use cases are windows overwriting the boot loader with its own so you can't get into linux any more (run from live CD to fix)14:16
Riddellchanging the default boot option (e.g. from linux to windows)14:16
Riddelland compiling your own linux build and adding that (although that sort of user should be able to edit grub themselves I guess)14:16
seeledid the user types change?  before i think it was mostly for non admins because admins would still want to edit the file by hand14:17
jpatrickRiddell: none at all14:17
seelethere are a lot more grub options in this UI, which is fine if that is what we're going for.  Artemis said there were more options he was trying to add14:17
eagles0513875that explains y my centos vm installation keeps getting borked lol14:17
Riddelljpatrick: spooky14:18
awen_smarter: does it work for you in konqueror?14:18
smarterawen_: most of the time, yes14:18
awen_smarter: but no regression compared to a week ago?14:19
jjessemorning :)14:23
jpatrickmorning jjesse14:23
Jucatomorning jjesse14:24
jjessemorning Jucato and jpatrick14:27
eagles0513875apachelogger: almost got the first of the bug sorted just have to update the change log and repackage14:27
eagles0513875apachelogger: have the kdebase-bin almost ready for repackaging in regards to the 2nd part of ur submition  i have to get kdebase-runtime and make sure its using kde3 base right14:29
apacheloggereagles0513875: -runtime is a KDE 4 package14:31
eagles0513875apachelogger: could u explain to me what the 2nd bug is14:31
apacheloggerkdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 shouldn't replace/conflict kdebase-bin-kde314:33
apacheloggersince they are using completely different paths14:33
eagles0513875so what needs to be done just this bug where i remove what u mentioned up top14:34
apacheloggereagles0513875: read my last comment14:34
apacheloggerit includes an AND14:34
apacheloggerwhich pretty much makes it 2 issues which have to be fixed in order to resolve the bug14:34
eagles0513875apachelogger: so i have to look in the kdebase-runtime-bin kde4 and do like i did above14:41
apacheloggereagles0513875: above?14:42
eagles0513875apachelogger: do i do like i did in the original bug but fix it in the kdebase-runtime-bin kde414:43
apacheloggereagles0513875: read my last comment on the bug and evaluate whether the stuff before the AND sounds like the stuff after the AND14:44
apacheloggerif it doesn't you probably have to do something different14:44
apacheloggersame file however14:44
eagles0513875apachelogger: i only found one instance of kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 it was the dependency issue u mentioned above14:45
apacheloggereagles0513875: read my last comment on the bug again and evaluate whether the 2 issues are in the same source package14:46
Tonio_Hobbsee: ping ?14:49
Tonio_ScottK: ping too ;)14:49
eagles0513875apachelogger: they would be in the same source pkg no14:49
* jpatrick waves at Tonio_ 14:50
Tonio_hey jpatrick :)14:50
apacheloggereagles0513875: really?14:50
HobbseeTonio_: pong14:50
Tonio_hey Hobbsee :)14:50
Tonio_Hobbsee: may I ping you for an emergency ?14:51
Tonio_Hobbsee: bug 21726614:51
HobbseeTonio_: sure14:51
Tonio_I know it's a bit late for NEW packages, but as this is part of the linagora/canonical partnetship, I think it should be okay :)14:51
Hobbseeno ubotu in here?14:51
Hobbseegot the URL?14:51
* Hobbsee is lazy14:51
jussio1ubotu: test14:52
jpatrickubotu lies14:52
ubotuMostly just statistics, but yeah.14:52
Tonio_Hobbsee: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/21726614:52
ubotuLaunchpad bug 217266 in ubuntu "FeatureFreeze Exception for new package OBM" [Undecided,New]14:52
* apachelogger is just br0ke packages.ubuntu.com -.-14:53
eagles0513875apachelogger: *sigh* does this happen to be in the kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 source14:53
eagles0513875but in that i find any kde3 base depenencies14:53
HobbseeTonio_: would be good to say what it actually does, etc14:53
jpatrickinteresting: http://www.linagora.com/14:53
Hobbseeand why we'd want it14:53
apacheloggereagles0513875: -(/usr/share/apps:$)-> dpkg -s kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 | grep Replaces:14:54
apacheloggerReplaces: kdebase-bin (<< 4:3.96.0), kdebase-bin-kde314:54
apacheloggereagles0513875: appears like it to me14:55
jpatrickTonio_: control says: "Changed-By: Sylvain Garcia <sylvain.garcia@aliasource.fr>"14:55
apacheloggersmarter: do you have the debdiff for konversation?14:55
jpatrickTonio_: shouldn't that be Original-Maintainer?14:55
smarterapachelogger: http://smarter.free.fr/pkg/14:55
apacheloggersmarter: please mention in the changelog that this is an upstream patch, makes new upstream releases easier14:57
apacheloggerthen attach it to the bug report14:57
Tonio_Hobbsee: bah, I say it, that's a groupware application :)14:58
Tonio_Hobbsee: and we want it cause that was discusses with canonical and my company in fact14:59
smarterapachelogger: "Added kubuntu_04_dcc_crash.diff taken from upstream SVN to prevent Konversation from crashing when a DCC Chat request is sent. (LP: #60898)" is okay?14:59
Tonio_Hobbsee: what details would you like me to add ?14:59
* awen_ got his flash working ... after purging anything remotely flash-related, removing some left-over .so's, and reinstalling again14:59
HobbseeTonio_: what it is, why we want it, and what it gains us to put it in.  Oh, and how stable it is14:59
apacheloggersmarter: just add a linebreak and write 'Upstream fix:  WEBSVNURL'14:59
apacheloggeror Fixed in upstream SVN15:00
apacheloggersomething like that15:00
apacheloggerTonio_: btw, are you going to fix https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesudo-kde4/+bug/191264 before hardy?15:00
ubotuLaunchpad bug 191264 in kdesudo-kde4 "KDE4: sudo removes /usr/lib/kde4/bin from PATH: e.g. "sudo kate" fails" [Medium,Confirmed]15:01
apacheloggerseems like an important issue because currently one can't start a KDE 4 app with sudo without using the complete path15:01
smarterpeople should use kdesu anyway15:02
smartersudo with GUI apps == bad15:02
apacheloggersmarter: that is the issue15:02
apacheloggerif kdesudo doesn't work either15:02
apacheloggerI can't say don't use sudo for gui apps15:02
apacheloggeras the gui app to start gui apps with sudo is not working either ;-)15:03
Tonio_apachelogger: yes, that's on my plans15:03
Tonio_Hobbsee: I added the informations you need15:05
HobbseeTonio_: you're working on this, as part of your contract?15:06
Tonio_this app is developped by my company in fact15:07
Tonio_Hobbsee: and including it in ubuntu repos was discussed in between canonical and my company a few month ago15:07
eagles0513875apachelogger: just to confirm i understod in the 2nd bug i have to remove any mention of kdebase-bin-kde315:07
HobbseeTonio_: so, it will get good QA, and it should only require one shot to get it right, i assume.15:07
Tonio_I know we are very late this time :/15:08
Tonio_Hobbsee: sure15:08
Tonio_Hobbsee: no problem concerning both the application and the package, they'll be maintained15:08
Tonio_Hobbsee: we have been testing the package for weeks now to unsure everything works out of the box as it should15:09
HobbseeTonio_: given first ack15:09
Tonio_Hobbsee: I can ensure you no other upload will be needed (long QA is the reason the package is that late in fact...)15:09
Tonio_Hobbsee: super thanks15:09
HobbseeTonio_: you may want to put sections of this log into the bug, for the second ack15:10
apacheloggereagles0513875: not any15:10
eagles0513875just where it says replaces15:10
apacheloggereagles0513875: yeah, AND conflicts15:10
eagles0513875sweet then i need to just change the changelog and pkg :)15:11
eagles0513875apachelogger: do i remove this whole line of replaces15:11
eagles0513875apachelogger: kdebase-bin (<< 4:3.96.0), kdebase-bin-kde315:11
Tonio_Hobbsee: will do15:11
apacheloggereagles0513875: no15:11
apacheloggerapparently kdebase-bin was until 4:3.96 created from the KDE 4 package15:12
HobbseeTonio_: thanks15:12
apacheloggerso it would replace those versions of -bin15:12
eagles0513875ok got it15:12
Tonio_Hobbsee: I now have to wait for ScottK2 sI suspect :)15:15
eagles0513875apachelogger: thanks for all ur patience with me15:15
eagles0513875apachelogger: when building do i have to be in the same folder with all the source code15:16
apacheloggereagles0513875: you should run debuild -S -sa && sudo pbuilder build ../NAMEOFNEWDSCFILE15:17
apacheloggereagles0513875: or did you create a manual chroot?15:17
eagles0513875i used the command that u run in the command line to create one15:18
apachelogger!u | eagles051387515:19
ubotueagles0513875: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..15:19
apacheloggereagles0513875: which command is that?15:19
* Hobbsee wonders how many times that has been given to eagles0513875, and how many times it will be further required15:19
eagles0513875apachelogger: sudo pbuilder create15:19
eagles0513875im getting better at not doing that15:19
apacheloggereagles0513875: yeah, debuild -S -sa15:22
eagles0513875and the dsc file15:22
apacheloggerto create the signed source files15:22
apacheloggerthen sudo pbuilder build DSCFILE15:22
apacheloggerto get it built15:22
eagles0513875do i have to be in that folder to sign it15:22
apacheloggeryes you have to be in the source directory15:23
eagles0513875apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63187/15:26
eagles0513875apachelogger: ignore that i figured it out i think15:28
eagles0513875apachelogger: i cant get it to sign for some reason and im in the source directory15:29
apacheloggereagles0513875: what's the output?15:31
eagles0513875apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63187/15:31
eagles0513875seems like im getting an error15:31
apacheloggereagles0513875: the files are missing15:31
eagles0513875what files r missing15:31
apacheloggereagles0513875: the ones listed in the output15:32
eagles0513875apachelogger: i didnt touch any of that stuff15:32
apacheloggeryou didn't install it15:33
eagles0513875install debhelper15:33
apacheloggereagles0513875: install cdbs15:34
eagles0513875then try it again15:35
eagles0513875apachelogger: its working now15:36
Tonio_Hobbsee: how many acknoledgements are required to upload ?15:36
Tonio_Hobbsee: I have now 2 with you and ScottK15:36
Tonio_Hobbsee: I suspect 3 no ?15:36
HobbseeTonio_: no, that's fin15:39
eagles0513875apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63190/15:40
Tonio_Hobbsee: okay I'll remove the changed-by line and upload ;) thanks15:40
apacheloggereagles0513875: either your key is not accessible15:41
apacheloggeror you used another email address/name15:41
apacheloggeror it is broken15:41
HobbseeTonio_: np15:41
Riddellhmm, our wednesday meetings are usually in the evening15:43
apacheloggerRiddell: when is the next meeting?15:43
Riddellhow about wednesday 22:00utc?15:43
RiddellHobbsee, Tonio_, Serega?15:44
Tonio_Riddell: fine with me15:44
SeregaRiddell: very good, even better than 11:00utc15:44
Tonio_Riddell: you can process NEW right ?15:45
Riddellnixternal, kwwii?15:45
RiddellTonio_: I can15:45
Hobbseemight be there15:45
Tonio_Riddell: okay, so could you look at the package "obm" when it get's in ? I just uploaded15:46
* eagles0513875 getting uberly frustrated with my gpg key 15:47
eagles0513875i know i have one i uploaded it and verified it15:47
apacheloggerdid you use the same email address?!!????15:47
kwwiiRiddell: yo yo15:48
eagles0513875the same one i use to login to launchpad15:48
kwwiisounds good to me15:48
apacheloggereagles0513875: the one you used in the debian changelog!15:48
eagles0513875yes it is the same email as the one i use for launchpad and my key15:49
apacheloggereagles0513875: in this case you don't have your private key used as private key15:50
apacheloggerinstall kgpg and ensure it detects your private key as the default one15:50
eagles0513875apachelogger: its the only one i have15:50
eagles0513875set it as default15:50
eagles0513875ill be back from another location15:52
eagles0513875what does it mean when it says unsafe ownership in the gnupg.conf file15:53
* JontheEchidna is back15:54
Tonio_Riddell: hum, I have to re-upload obm with a latest fix.... I'll ping you once uploaded15:55
Tonio_probably toonight15:55
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I revued coremoid, mostly polishing is needed15:56
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: Are you talking the revu you did about 10 hours ago or so?15:56
eagles0513875apachelogger: could it be my key has not been signed15:56
JontheEchidnaI have made the changes and reuploaded15:57
apacheloggereagles0513875: did you follow the ubuntu wiki?15:57
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: http://revu.tauware.de/diff.py?upid1=2241&upid2=223315:57
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: cool15:57
eagles0513875ya verified it on launchpad15:57
eagles0513875ill be back in a lil bit15:58
eagles0513875nneed to relocate for now15:58
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I noticed that coremoid doesn't install its icon to /usr/share/icons but advertises in its .desktop file that it is using an icon. I notified upstream about this, but what should I do in the meantime?16:00
JontheEchidnaWhere would I learn about the proper procedure for making changes to packages?16:01
jjesseofficial release date again is next week?16:02
JontheEchidna24th if I recall correctly16:02
jjessethanks Riddell16:02
jjesseand JontheEchidna16:02
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: a) the icon is installed into /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/icons/oxygen which might be fine since the desktop file doesn't go to XDGPATH (/usr/share/applications/)16:03
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: for anything prodcedure related have a look into the ubuntu wiki16:03
apacheloggerthe packaging guide pages should explain pretty much everything ;-)16:03
Tonio_Riddell: can you drop obm from new please ?16:03
Tonio_Riddell: I wouldn't like someone else to approve the package16:04
Tonio_Riddell: it'll work, but misses a sql change for usability fix16:04
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: For some reason neither the Add Widget dialog nor the preview for the .desktop file in Dolphin are picking up the coremoid icon.16:04
RiddellTonio_: too late16:05
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: so it's not OK ;-)16:05
* apachelogger reads the cmake file16:05
Tonio_Riddell: already accepted ?16:06
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: it's also using a very strange way to install the icons16:06
Tonio_Riddell: well I can upload a 0ubuntu2 version with the fix right ?16:06
apacheloggereven though KDE 4's cmake has so nice modules :)16:06
nixternalRiddell: that is a good time for a meeting for me :)16:07
* JontheEchidna compares to official plasmoid .desktop files16:07
RiddellTonio_: yes16:07
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apacheloggerhoy nixternal16:08
nixternalmornin', afternoon, evenin' :)16:08
Sereganixternal: hi16:08
apacheloggerkdebase builds again16:08
Tonio_Riddell: okay I'll upload the second one then :)16:08
* apachelogger is wondering what to build next16:08
JontheEchidnaoh right, all the official plasmoids use the oxygen theme icons so they don't do any installing16:08
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: extragear as well? Oo16:10
JontheEchidnaI also noticed that where coremoid installs its icons, nothing else is there16:10
JontheEchidnaJust coremoid stuff16:10
JontheEchidnaoh hey, I tihnk I've found the problem16:11
JontheEchidnaooh, nevermind16:11
* JontheEchidna does get icons if he manually places them in /usr/share/icons16:13
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JontheEchidnaAha! The icon install path is wrong16:14
JontheEchidnaIt is: /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/icons/oxygen16:14
JontheEchidnaIt should be: /usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/oxygen16:15
JontheEchidnaFixing it is the tricky part, I suppose...16:19
JontheEchidnaThe way things are right now, wouldn't the icons only show up if you were using oxygen?16:21
JontheEchidnaVery weird way of installing things16:21
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: maybe KDE has a special fallback16:24
apacheloggeruser defined -> fallbacks of user defined -> oxygen -> hicolor16:24
apacheloggerjust a guess though16:24
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: don't worry about that just now16:24
apacheloggermaybe upstream releases a new version before we get to publish the package16:25
JontheEchidnaAh, yeah. Still 10 days until the feature freeze is over16:25
eagles0513875apachelogger: does my key have to have a different email then the email i used in the change log16:27
apacheloggereagles0513875: no, the same16:27
apacheloggerkopete rashes16:27
eagles0513875apachelogger: then why isnt mine working16:28
apacheloggereagles0513875: I have no idea some configuration or something might be wrong16:28
eagles0513875its been uploaded to launchpad16:28
apacheloggereagles0513875: recreating might help16:28
apacheloggereagles0513875: this has nothing to do with lp16:28
apacheloggerhow should it?16:28
apacheloggeryou are doing an offline signing16:28
eagles0513875i have it in kgpg everything seems to be correct16:29
eagles0513875going to try and recreate my key16:35
Tonio_Riddell: next obm package uploaded, can you approve ?16:38
Tonio_Riddell: just a fix in the mysql default content to avoid manual first domain creation, for better usability16:38
eagles0513875apache when running the sign command do i have to give it my passphrase16:47
eagles0513875apachelogger:  when running the sign command do i have to give it my passphrase16:47
eagles0513875then that explains y it wasnt signing lol16:48
* Hobbsee headdesks16:49
eagles0513875Hobbsee: cut me some slack never used encryption keys before16:49
* Nightrose puts a cushion on Hobbsee's desk just in case she feels the urge to headdesk again ;-)16:49
Hobbseeeagles0513875: reading what shows on yoru screen *might* just help you16:49
Nightroseeagles0513875: when it asks you for a password what do you think you are supposed to do? ;-)16:50
eagles0513875it never asked me for a password16:50
apacheloggernot enter the password obviously16:50
apacheloggereagles0513875: so how do you know it asks for it?16:50
HobbseeNightrose: thanks....i think i'll be needing it.16:50
NightroseHobbsee: ;-)16:50
* apachelogger gives Nightrose a cookie16:50
eagles0513875apachelogger: im just guessing16:51
Nightrose\o/ cookie16:51
* apachelogger gives Hobbsee a cookie as well16:51
apacheloggereagles0513875: interessting16:51
apacheloggerstill no cookie for you16:51
* eagles0513875 gives me a dunce hat16:51
Hobbseeapachelogger: thanks16:51
apacheloggereagles0513875: did you try recreating the key yet?16:51
eagles0513875was about to then i was wondering do i have to enter my passphrase when running the signing command16:51
Hobbseedid eagles0513875 even put a passphrase on the key?16:52
eagles0513875yes i did when i created it16:52
apacheloggerHobbsee: can one even create a key without passphrase?16:52
Hobbseethere's a start.16:52
Hobbseeapachelogger: yes16:52
Hobbseethere are some cases that you want to16:53
eagles0513875going to create the key16:54
apacheloggerHobbsee: for example?16:54
* apachelogger is wondering whether it would make sense for a packaging only-key16:54
apachelogger*packaging-only key16:54
Hobbseeapachelogger: not really useful having a packaging-only key, i expect.16:55
Hobbseeapachelogger: automated backups would be the usual reson16:55
* apachelogger hugs Hobbsee and gives her all cookies he has left16:56
Hobbseeare they chocolate?16:56
Nightrosehaha /me guesses apachelogger wants to use it for neon :P16:56
* eagles0513875 wants to beat myself sensless with em16:56
apacheloggerHobbsee: choclate crumbs, yes16:56
apacheloggerNightrose: yeah16:56
apacheloggerthat fixes the whole cron stuff16:56
Nightrose;-) I nu it16:56
Nightrosehehe yea16:56
* apachelogger jumps16:56
Tm_Thowdy ho17:00
Tm_Tdoes this package meant to depend dolphin (kde3) ? as it won't install without it even it doesn't have that as adependency yet17:01
eagles0513875tying this again17:08
eagles0513875apachelogger: recreated the key and it still didnt work17:11
eagles0513875the bug is fixed i just cant sign the stuff so i can pkg it17:14
eagles0513875think i found the source of my problem17:15
* eagles0513875 loosing it 17:21
JontheEchidnaI seem to remember Launchpad having a good PGP key tutorial17:27
eagles0513875JontheEchidna: i have it all setup and verified my pgp key17:30
eagles0513875what does this mean dpkg-source: failure: create kdebase_3.5.9-0ubuntu7.dsc: Permission denied17:31
Riddellthat it can't create the file17:32
eagles0513875what do i do then17:33
eagles0513875delete the original dsc file that came with the source17:33
Riddellwork out why it can't17:34
Hobbseenot use sudo for apt-get source.17:34
eagles0513875when it compiles its using fakeroot17:35
eagles0513875apachelogger: hey17:39
eagles0513875apachelogger: i figured out my bugs of earlier now im having one issue when running debuild -S dpkg-source: failure: create kdebase_3.5.9-0ubuntu7.dsc: Permission denied17:42
eagles0513875is this the right command i should use to compile source debuild -S -sa17:54
eagles0513875and sign it17:54
Riddellyes, if it doesn't work try using gpg to sign a random file using the exact same name and e-mail address as in the changelog17:55
LureRiddell: I am sailing from tommorow on until Sun, so no meeting again for me :-(17:57
RiddellLure: not got internet on the boat yet?17:58
LureRiddell: that is probably the only place I do not want to have internet ;-)17:58
eagles0513875i found my problem this one particular file has root permissions only17:59
* Lure is sure GPRS works between Italy & Croatia17:59
Nightroseeagles0513875: how did oyu get the source?17:59
* Lure is off for some German lessons17:59
NightroseLure: Viel Spaß ;-)17:59
LureNightrose: aber sicher!17:59
eagles0513875sudo apt-get source18:00
\shNightrose, looks like that I can join you in ka18:00
Nightrose\sh: wohoooo great18:00
eagles0513875that the only thing its complaining about when i run debuild -S -sa it uses fake root for rest18:01
Nightrose\sh: wanna work at the booth? or just "join" us :P18:01
Nightroseeagles0513875: Hobbsee told oyu to try without sudo IIRC ;-)18:01
\shNightrose, well, it's kde..so I can work at the booth, too :) shouldn't be soooo difficult :)18:01
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Nightrose\sh: great :) there is a page in the kde wiki where you can add your name if you want18:02
eagles0513875Nightrose: i did18:02
* Nightrose would need to search for it though18:02
\shNightrose, url? :)18:02
Nightrose\sh: sec18:02
Nightrose\sh: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=OpenSourceExpo+200818:04
\shNightrose, done :)18:08
Nightrosegreat :)18:09
eagles0513875now i got that file signed how do i pkg it18:09
eagles0513875with pbuilder18:09
\shNightrose, topics? kde4 ?? :)18:09
Nightrose\sh: *lol* @ comment18:10
Nightroseand yes mostly kde 418:10
Nightroseand amarok 2 of course18:10
\shNightrose, the truth :)18:10
Nightroseas it is a joined Amarok/KDE booth18:10
\shNightrose, great :)18:10
JontheEchidnaeagles0513875: Didn't you just build a source package?18:11
NightroseI think 5 people are enough to get us thoguh this two days - I am just a little afraid of the 5 days Linuxtag after that :P18:11
eagles0513875i used the command debuild -S -sa18:11
eagles0513875is that all i need18:11
JontheEchidnato build a source package, yeah.18:11
eagles0513875is that ready to be uploaded18:11
JontheEchidnawhat's in the directory?18:12
\shNightrose, hehehe...do I need to register myself at this expo website? or do we get special VIP passes for that?18:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 216529 in kdebase-runtime "kdebase-bin depends kdebase-bin-kde3 OR kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" [High,Triaged]18:12
eagles0513875its for that bug18:12
JontheEchidnaNo, I mean what files18:12
Nightrose\sh: I hope we get special VIP passes but I have not really heard much from the organisers yet - they are not the best event organisers so far tbh18:13
JontheEchidnaIs there something that ends with .changes?18:13
eagles0513875JontheEchidna: a rather long list i have the tar.gz18:13
\shNightrose, ok...I'll print out a guest pass for that ;)18:13
JontheEchidnaJust read the uploading portion18:13
Nightrose\sh: I will send them a mail next week if I don't hear anything from them18:13
eagles0513875ok thanks18:13
JontheEchidnaWell, you probably should read/do the whole thing18:14
JontheEchidnaSince you can't upload until you set up dput18:15
eagles0513875JontheEchidna: i have a problem im banned from motu channel so that i can have them update the keyring18:16
JontheEchidna *facepalm*18:16
* Nightrose wonders why eagles0513875 was banned18:16
eagles0513875Nightrose: i have been off of that channel for a while can18:17
NightroseJontheEchidna: please don't make me also put a cushion on your table :P18:17
Nightroseeagles0513875: that doesn't answer my question18:17
eagles0513875i dont even know myself18:17
apacheloggereagles0513875: that sounds very unlikely though18:18
eagles0513875apachelogger: i just got this computer back i have not had it since december18:19
eagles0513875would u like me to send the pkg to u18:19
apacheloggereagles0513875: I need a debdiff18:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about debdiff - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:20
smartereagles0513875: debdiff foo1.dsc foo2.dsc > foo.debdiff18:21
smarter"sudo aptitude install devscripts wdiff" before18:22
eagles0513875smarter: foo1 is the name of the dsc file18:23
smarterfoo1 == old dsc foo2 == dsc you created18:24
eagles0513875apachelogger: got the debdiff18:29
eagles0513875smarter: whats next now that i have the tar.gz source as well as deb dif18:31
eagles0513875im having a problem pkging the 2nd pkg i fixed18:43
eagles0513875debian/cdbs/kde.mk:4: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/patchsys-quilt.mk: No such file or directory18:44
eagles0513875i have cdbs already installed18:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdbs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:47
Riddellyou can use packages.ubuntu.com to find out that that file is in the quilt package18:49
eagles0513875im back guys18:56
eagles0513875apachelogger: what u want me to do with the first pkgs and debdiffed bug19:03
ubotuREVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU19:04
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eagles0513875jjesse: u think u could help me out19:07
jjessewith what?19:08
* Nightrose slaps eagles0513875 (as you asked for it when using u again)19:11
eagles0513875Nightrose: i corrected myself after19:12
eagles0513875debian/cdbs/kde.mk:4: /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/patchsys-quilt.mk: No such file or directory this i keep getting when i run debuild -S -sa19:12
yuriyeagles0513875: 13:50 < Riddell> you can use packages.ubuntu.com to find out that that file is in the quilt package19:13
Nightroseeagles0513875: you corrected yourself and did it again... ;-)19:13
yuriyeagles0513875: you should `sudo apt-get build-dep nameofpackageyouareworkingong`19:13
eagles0513875Nightrose: whoops19:15
eagles0513875yuriy: its not working for me19:15
yuriyeagles0513875: what isn't? did you install quilt?19:16
eagles0513875yuriy: found it19:16
eagles0513875apachelogger: i have them bout pkged and deb diffed19:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about debdiff - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:21
eagles0513875yuriy: im drawing a blank on the debdiff command i know u have to give it foo1.dsc foo2.dsc then what for foo.debdiff19:24
yuriyeagles0513875: it'll output the diff to stdout so you can just redirect it to a file19:24
yuriyi.e. debdiff foo1.dsc foo2.dsc > foo3.debdiff19:24
eagles0513875thats what i was forgetting19:24
* yuriy has done this twice, ever, and should clearly do it more often19:25
eagles0513875yuriy: lol this is only my 2nd time lol doing it lol took me a while to get these packages repackaged19:25
eagles0513875apachelogger: :)19:27
eagles0513875apachelogger: got good news for u19:27
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* Nightrose tries not to slap eagles0513875 again...19:36
smarterdo it! do it! :P19:36
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seeleArtemis_Fowl: ping20:28
Artemis_Fowlseele: pong20:28
seeleArtemis_Fowl: hi.  so for now, i think i'm going to try and fit your config stuff in to system settings so you can create a module20:29
seeleArtemis_Fowl: but i'd like to take a look at all the config options youre putting in the dialog to see what is necessary, etc.20:29
seelefor example, i dont know what the purpose of the device naming tab is20:29
Artemis_Fowlseele: the stand-alone app must not die. keep this in mind. the module will co-exist with the app20:29
seeleand i think some of the options in the wizard could go in to an options tab20:30
seeleArtemis_Fowl: yeah sure.. but for example you have pages in tabs which is a hig violation20:30
seeleand tabs at the bottom for some reason20:30
Artemis_Fowlto begin20:30
seelethere is some simple formatting stuff too, like too much space between widgets and label alignment which will be easy for you to fix20:30
Artemis_Fowlok. thse are stuff I don't like either20:31
Artemis_Fowlthe device naming tab has only one reason of existence: for the user to consult it when he doesn't know how GRUB names a partition/drive20:31
seeleanother question.. if you reorder the operating systems in the GRUB entry tab, do they reorder in the drop down menu in the Settings tab?20:32
Artemis_Fowlseele: yes20:32
Seregaouch... kopete looks broken20:32
fdovingSerega: svn?20:33
Seregafdoving: reboot :)20:33
SeregaI did nothing20:33
fdovingwell, i think it's broken in trunk too.20:33
Artemis_Fowlseele: GRUB uses a custom way to refer to drives/partitions20:34
seeleyes i know20:34
Seregaok, it's development version :)20:34
Artemis_Fowlseele: how do you plan to get rid of unnecessary space?20:37
Seregaanother weird thing: tray icons of some apps are standalone windows. does anybody see this too?20:37
fdovingSerega: i used to, only way i could make them go away was a reboot. didn't investigate any more.20:39
Seregafdoving: I hope somebody digs this :)20:40
seeleArtemis_Fowl: moving the widgets?  it's ok if there is space at the bottom of the widget block, but everything needs to have consistent spacing and alignment20:41
jhutchins_wkNice look on the 8.1 installer!20:41
Riddelljhutchins_wk: which part?20:42
Seregafdoving: hooray! all is shining after update :)20:45
jhutchins_wkRiddell: Well, good graphics in general, right up to partitioning.20:48
Artemis_Fowlseele: do you want something specific for the moment?20:52
seeleArtemis_Fowl: what do you mean?20:54
seeleArtemis_Fowl: i have your screencast20:54
Artemis_Fowlseele: yes. do you need anything else for now? I am gonna leave in a couple of mins20:55
seeleArtemis_Fowl: nope, i'm good20:55
Artemis_Fowlseele: ok20:55
jhutchins_wkOops.  Problem.  Installer says I need 1.8G for /, I have 40G.20:55
Artemis_Fowlseele: Happy Brainstorming20:55
seeleArtemis_Fowl: cheers20:56
jhutchins_wkOk, I should file a bugreport, but if you put the swap partition at the end of the free space (and just one data partition /), the installer thinks it doesn't have enough space to install.21:00
Riddelljhutchins_wk: please do report that21:00
jhutchins_wkWhere's the tracker again?21:01
Nightrose\sh: nice blog :)21:22
jhutchins_wkOk, when installed on a Mac Mini, I don't get the option to dual-boot.  I think it must have put grub on the equivalent of the MBR and wiped out boot camp.21:33
jhutchins_wkTHat's not good.21:34
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eagles0513875Hobbsee: can i talk to u in private plz22:07
* Nightrose slaps eagles0513875 :P22:07
eagles0513875Nightrose: lol22:08
Nightroseit really makes you look not so intelligent :(22:08
Nightroseand I don't think you are not intelligent so please...22:08
eagles0513875can you help me out i have the pkgs for the bug i was working on fixed pkged with deb diff and updated chang logs on both of them i just need someone to give em to to look over and upload22:09
Nightroseyou should upload them to revu then and post the url here asing for someone to have a look22:10
eagles0513875Nightrose: ive been banned from motu channel so i cant get them to update their key22:10
Nightrosethen ask in #ubuntu-ops to remove the ban22:10
eagles0513875and apache wants them done by tomorrow which they r im just afraid iwont have them uploaded22:10
eagles0513875i somehow have been banned from there as well22:11
eagles0513875thats why i need to talk to Hobbsee22:11
Nightrosehow did you manage to do that?22:11
Nightrosegot an important meeting right now22:11
eagles0513875ahhhhh ya forgot bout that meeting22:11
eagles0513875Nightrose: im guessing apachelogger is in there as well22:11
eagles0513875lol ok22:12
apacheloggernothing but lies22:13
apacheloggereagles0513875: go attach the debdiffs to the bug report22:13
apacheloggereagles0513875: btw22:13
apachelogger!u | eagles051387522:13
ubotueagles0513875: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..22:13
* eagles0513875 bangs head on desk extremely hard22:14
eagles0513875guys ill break myself of the habit eventually lol22:14
apacheloggerbtw, if someone could sponsor me an uber flat keyboard, I would be able to type better english22:15
eagles0513875apachelogger: they have been uploaded as attachments22:18
danimois there any chance hardy will contain taglib 1.5.0?22:19
eagles0513875!info taglib22:20
ubotuPackage taglib does not exist in gutsy22:20
Riddelldanimo: unlikely22:20
Riddelldanimo: but we'll likely backport it when we start making 4.1 packages22:21
eagles0513875is Hobbsee somewhere around here lol22:21
Nightroseeagles0513875: as she doesn't answer you I guess no she is not ;-)22:21
apacheloggereagles0513875: why do you need her?22:22
eagles0513875i cant get revu approved cuz im banned  from motu channel and this was probably last summer i got banned22:22
Nightroseapachelogger: to remove his bans22:22
eagles0513875and i havent been on since22:22
eagles0513875somehow today i got myself banned out of the ops channel22:22
apacheloggereagles0513875: why do you need a revu?22:22
apacheloggerand for what?22:22
eagles0513875upload the pkgs that i fixed no22:22
fdovingdon't need revu on packages that are already in.22:23
fdovingrevu is for new packages, iirc.22:23
eagles0513875seems like i wasnt banned from ops channel after all22:23
eagles0513875ahhhh gotcha22:23
eagles0513875apachelogger: the debdiffs up to your satisfaction22:24
apacheloggerhere's the thing22:25
apacheloggersuch package updates22:25
apacheloggerdon't go through revu!22:25
apacheloggerespecially not when they are that small22:25
eagles0513875i got that only pkgs that arent in the repos22:25
eagles0513875revu is for pkgs that are not already in the repos22:26
eagles0513875i uploaded the debdiffs22:26
apacheloggeryou're confusing me22:26
eagles0513875i attached them to the bug report22:27
* apachelogger throws http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13433988/kdebase-runtime.debdiff at eagles051387522:27
apacheloggercheck your diffs before uploading22:27
apacheloggerthat one includes a changelog~22:28
apacheloggeri.e. a backup file22:28
apacheloggereagles0513875: you can nuke the conflicts line completely22:28
JontheEchidnaThe revu confusion may be partly my fault <.<22:28
JontheEchidnabut I was confused too22:29
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I really wonder why -.-22:29
apacheloggereagles0513875: please add a white space for the changelog entry22:29
eagles0513875spaces between my entry and the last one22:29
apachelogger*Removed  kdebase-bin-kde3 conflict and it replacing kdebase-bin (<< 4:3.96.0)22:30
apachelogger* New upstream release22:30
apacheloggereagles0513875: do you see the difference22:30
apacheloggeralso that entry I pasted is just wrong22:31
apacheloggerit is still replacing kdebase-bin (<< 4:3...22:31
eagles0513875i left the replacing i deleted the blank conflicts line22:33
apacheloggerhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/13434015/kdebase_3.5.9.debdiff also needs an extra whitespace after the *22:34
Riddell"Removed kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 dependency" erk, why?22:34
apacheloggereagles0513875: please correct that entry as well22:35
apacheloggercurrently one is lead to belive it doesn't depend and -bin package22:35
eagles0513875will do22:35
apacheloggerRiddell: bug #21652922:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 216529 in kdebase-runtime "kdebase-bin depends kdebase-bin-kde3 OR kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21652922:35
Riddellmm, fair enough22:37
eagles0513875hopefully i havent borked anything up22:37
eagles0513875ive been borking and unborking stuff all afternoon to get this bug fixed22:37
apacheloggereagles0513875: new 3.5.9 diff == old 3.5.9 diff22:38
apacheloggernothing changed22:38
eagles0513875apachelogger: uploaded the wrong one by mistake im fixing that one right now22:41
apacheloggereagles0513875: new -runtime diff still includes a changelog~22:42
eagles0513875im doing debdiff foo1.dsc foo2.dsc > foo.debdiff22:43
Riddellapachelogger: that can be removed easily enough on upload22:43
Riddellinfact it will be by dh_clean anyway22:44
apacheloggereagles0513875: the changelog~ is in your sourcetree's debian directory22:44
eagles0513875the debdiff file is callde kdebase-runtime.debdiff22:45
apacheloggereagles0513875: open that file22:46
apacheloggerin kate for example22:46
apacheloggerstarting from line 2922:47
apacheloggera file is listed which shouldn't be there22:47
apacheloggereagles0513875: you will have to remove it from your debian directory and recreate the dsc file22:47
eagles0513875u mean re build it22:47
apacheloggerremove the file22:48
apacheloggerdebuild -S -sa22:48
apacheloggerdebdiff foo1.dsc foo2.dsc > foo.diff22:49
JontheEchidnaI'd recommend turning the backup feature in Kate off. It's only ever given me backups I don't want.22:51
eagles0513875JontheEchidna: how do i do that22:53
eagles0513875apachelogger: try the last one of those and im going to start workign on the 2nd one22:54
JontheEchidnaIn KDE4 Settings -> Configure Kate -> Open/Save tab22:54
JontheEchidnaUncheck "Local Files" under "Backup on Save"22:54
eagles0513875im on kde322:55
JontheEchidnayou're on your own, but it's probably similar22:55
apacheloggereagles0513875: technically, as Riddell pointed out, these files should be removed automagically by debuild -S -sa22:55
JontheEchidnaIf you can properly package a .deb then you should be able to configure Kate.22:56
eagles0513875JontheEchidna = Riddell22:56
apacheloggervery same path on KDE 322:56
apacheloggereagles0513875: no22:56
apacheloggereagles0513875: dh_clean = part of debuild -S -sa22:57
apacheloggereagles0513875: you also have a control~ in kdebase-bin23:00
eagles0513875just removed that and im repkging as we speak23:00
eagles0513875if i can get it signed that is23:00
eagles0513875now its complaining bout my key not being available23:01
apacheloggereagles0513875: why does it do that suddenly?23:02
eagles0513875i dunno it pkged earlier for me is just the kdebase bin thats doing it23:02
Riddell"Jonathan Aquilina  <eagles051387@gmail.com>"  extra space probably doesn't help23:03
apacheloggereagles0513875: please paste the output of `env`23:03
Riddellhowever you don't need to sign it for a debdiff23:03
eagles0513875Riddell: is the extra space found in the changelog23:05
apacheloggereagles0513875: yes23:06
nixternaldebuild -S -sa -k<key_id>23:06
eagles0513875im goign to change it and see if it helps23:06
eagles0513875nixternal: ok23:06
nixternalor add 'export DEBMAIL=your@email.com' to ~/.bashrc23:06
neversfelde|mobiif theres no tarball and only bzr stuff, should I remove .bzr from this directory before dpkg-buildpackage?23:07
nixternalooh, no tarball23:07
nixternalI always remove the .bzr, .svn, CVS23:07
apacheloggerplasma almost looks useable again :D23:08
neversfelde|mobiit is the 5aday KDE applet, xRaich[o]2x has pushed it to Launchpad, but there is no tarball. Not sure what to do23:08
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: Are you talking about the API fallout that took place during the sprint?23:09
Riddellneversfelde|mobi: make one yourself23:09
nixternalthen create the .orig.tar.gz, or run dh_make -e your@email.com and have it create the .orig.tar.gz23:09
xRaich[o]2xneversfelde|mobi: The icons paths are still messed up. Had no time to fix it. University is eating me ^^23:09
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: something like that ;-)23:09
neversfelde|mobiRiddell: I did, but I thought I was not allowed to23:09
JontheEchidnaheh, last time I tried to install Qt 4.4 through PPAs I managed to entirely bork my system. I'll hold out until more-official KDE 4.1 packages become available. :P23:10
eagles0513875i borked kde last night23:11
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: the trick is to always use a self-compiled qt-copy23:11
neversfelde|mobiI had a look at system-config-printer-kde. So I should set XS-Vcs-Bzr and do a tarball myself?23:11
eagles0513875apachelogger: what time tomorrow u want this fixed by and what time is it where u r lol23:13
eagles0513875*you are23:13
eagles0513875hold you never mind it fixed itself it seems like putting in my key works23:13
apacheloggereagles0513875: you just need to provide improved diffs and we can pull the packages right away23:14
eagles0513875apachelogger: i think its set23:15
eagles0513875going to upload last debdiff23:15
eagles0513875apachelogger: its uploaded23:17
apacheloggereagles0513875: the changelog entry is still leading to a false impression23:17
apacheloggeryou have to make clear that kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 was a wrong alternative dependency23:18
eagles0513875would adding by overwriting kde3 dependency work23:19
eagles0513875kde3-bin dependency23:19
apacheloggereagles0513875: pardon?23:19
eagles0513875would adding to what i have in the changelog something like by overwriting he kde3-bin dependency work23:20
apacheloggernini neversfelde|mobi23:20
neversfelde|mobi:) nini23:20
apacheloggereagles0513875: that would be just wrong23:20
apacheloggerthe whole alternative dependency thingy is wrong _because_ they wouldn't overwrite each other23:21
eagles0513875apachelogger: so its redundant23:21
apacheloggerwe had that discussion already23:21
apacheloggereagles0513875: removed kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 as alternative dependency to kdebase-bin-kde323:22
apacheloggeror something like that23:22
eagles0513875apachelogger:  the reason is due to it calling the wrong alternative dependency which uses different path than the one used by kdebas-bin-kde323:22
apacheloggersomething like that23:23
apacheloggereagles0513875: there is no right alternative dependency though23:23
apacheloggerthere is only _one_23:23
eagles0513875got it23:23
apacheloggerwhich is kdebase-bin-kde323:23
eagles0513875sry im really out of it its quite late here. ok ill be so happy once i get this done23:24
* apachelogger should have gone to bed 2 hours ago23:25
eagles0513875apachelogger: Removed kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 dependency because it uses a different path      than the kdebase-bin-kde323:25
eagles0513875thats what i got23:25
* Nightrose sings a lullaby for apachelogger and pushes him into bed ;-)23:26
eagles0513875minus that huge space in between path and than it went to a new line23:26
apacheloggereagles0513875: sounds good to me23:26
apacheloggerNightrose: nah, I also have to eat something23:26
* apachelogger didn't eat anything today23:26
apacheloggerwell, except for some cookies :D23:26
Nightroseapachelogger: Oo   /me hands cookies23:26
* Nightrose hands pasta23:27
* apachelogger hands cookies23:27
* eagles0513875 gives apachelogger lifetime supply of cookies for his patience with me actually gives whole room life time supply23:27
apacheloggerhrr, cookies23:27
eagles0513875apachelogger: thanks for ur patience with me dude23:27
apachelogger!u | eagles051387523:27
ubotueagles0513875: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..23:28
* eagles0513875 gives self a black eye23:28
apacheloggermaybe I should become teacher :D23:28
apacheloggerNightrose: what do you think?23:28
Nightroseohnoes :P23:28
Nightrosenot a teacher23:28
eagles0513875apachelogger: its uploaded23:30
apacheloggerNightrose: a cool one, like carsten ;-)23:30
eagles0513875:) so is that bug a completed one23:30
apacheloggeroh wells23:30
Nightroseapachelogger: hehe I agree carsten is cool but really...23:30
apacheloggereagles0513875: eventually learning from your faults would be an option23:30
NightroseI think you should spend your talent on something else23:30
apacheloggereagles0513875: --- kdebase-3.5.9.orig/debian/changelog~23:31
apacheloggeryay for changelog~23:31
eagles0513875damn it forgot to remove it it keeps borking things up for me23:31
apacheloggerNightrose: starting with p, ending with n star?23:31
eagles0513875purple stars23:31
Nightroseapachelogger: rofl that was not what I meant but might be an option23:32
apacheloggereagles0513875: also -runtime still includes the control~23:32
Nightrosewell not really23:32
eagles0513875apachelogger: *sigh*23:32
apacheloggerNightrose: yeah, you would become jealous23:32
apacheloggerget jealous even23:32
apacheloggeror be jealous23:33
apacheloggerI really need some good sleep23:33
Nightrose;-) of course I would23:33
* eagles0513875 hopes i get this right this tiem cuz i have to get up early have alot to study tomorrow23:33
apacheloggerNightrose: choosing a job is quite difficult23:34
Nightroseapachelogger: I know23:34
apacheloggereagles0513875: I have a 2 hour political economics test at 7:25 :P23:35
eagles0513875kate really has been borking things up for me tonight23:35
eagles0513875apachelogger: ouchie im doing nothing but revising for my exams in bout 3 weeks time lectures have been cut back to a minimum23:35
apacheloggerwell, as saied, usually dh_clean would remove the backup files from kate23:35
eagles0513875apachelogger: im going to have to figure out how to disable that in kate23:36
apacheloggereagles0513875: just like JontheEchidna told you23:36
eagles0513875apachelogger: i know23:36
eagles0513875uploaded one of 2 hope this first one is to ur satisfaction23:37
apacheloggereagles0513875: don't hope23:37
apacheloggerensure it is23:37
apacheloggeryou know what I complaint about23:37
eagles0513875ya my stupidities lol23:38
apachelogger+  * Removed kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 dependency because it uses a different path      than the kdebase-bin-kde3 (LP #216529)23:38
ubotuLaunchpad bug 216529 in kdebase-runtime "kdebase-bin depends kdebase-bin-kde3 OR kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21652923:38
apacheloggereagles0513875: gigantic white space23:38
eagles0513875thats only on here it went down to a new line for me23:38
apachelogger+ changelogs aren't allowed to exceed 80 characters per line23:38
apacheloggereagles0513875: that is called dynamic line break, if you look at the very left of kate, you will see an arrow in front of that line23:39
apacheloggerthat is the indication that it was doing a line break here23:39
apacheloggerwhich is basically just a view configuration23:39
eagles0513875so i need to go back and change it and enter to next line23:40
apacheloggereagles0513875: yes23:40
apacheloggerbtw, you can let kate show a line at 80 characters23:40
* Nightrose has to leave soonish and hugs apachelogger :)23:40
apacheloggerso you know when to make a line break23:40
eagles0513875yep after 80 characters23:42
apacheloggereagles0513875: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/img058.jpg23:42
apacheloggerNightrose: library closing? :P23:42
* apachelogger hugs Nightrose23:42
Nightroseapachelogger: nah last tram ;-)23:42
Nightroselibrary is open 24/723:42
* apachelogger has to study in KA23:43
apacheloggerthen I can sleep at the library23:43
apacheloggersaves money23:43
Nightrosehaha yea23:43
Nightroseafaik it is the only 2/7 library23:43
Nightrose24/7 even23:43
eagles0513875apachelogger: uploaded one of 223:45
apacheloggereagles0513875: this would take much less time if you would read careful what I am complaining about and ensure you fixed it23:47
apacheloggereagles0513875: changelog is still wrong and still includes an extra whitespace after Removed ... for both see my complaint somewhere above23:47
apacheloggerI have to go23:48
apacheloggerI'll be online some time tomorrow morning23:48
apacheloggerin the afternoon I have to learn for a business economics test23:49
eagles0513875can u hold up a sec i almost have one fully corrected23:49
apacheloggereagles0513875: k23:49
apacheloggercrimsun: thx23:49
eagles0513875good luck tomorrow btw23:49
eagles0513875apachelogger: try this one23:52
apacheloggereagles0513875: looks good to me23:52
apacheloggereagles0513875: you will have to ask Riddell to sponsor you the upload23:52
eagles0513875can u wait for the 2nd one23:53
apacheloggerkdebase kde3 is in main and I don't have upload rights to main ;-)23:53
apacheloggereagles0513875: how long?23:53
eagles05138752 min working on repkging the 2nd part23:53
apacheloggergotta fetch something to eat meanwhile23:53
eagles0513875apachelogger: done and uploaded23:55
eagles0513875Riddell: hey23:55
eagles0513875Riddell: u think u could sponsor my upload23:55
apachelogger!u | eagles051387523:56
ubotueagles0513875: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..23:56
* eagles0513875 lays a bag of cookies in front of apachelogger23:56
eagles0513875hows the 2nd one look23:56
apacheloggereagles0513875: changelog still not correct23:56
eagles0513875apachelogger: the description23:57
apacheloggereagles0513875: I will change that before uploading tomorrow23:57
apacheloggerno need to recreate the diff again23:57
apacheloggereagles0513875: thanks for your work23:57
eagles0513875ok:) ill pick up a new bug in the am23:57
apacheloggerand good night23:57
eagles0513875no problem same to u and good luck23:57
apachelogger!u | eagles051387523:58
ubotueagles0513875: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..23:58
apacheloggerit's getting worse the older the day gets ;-)23:58
eagles0513875lol the more tired i get lol night23:58
* apachelogger flies away23:58

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