=== wolfger_ is now known as wolfger [01:41] apachelogger: If I understand correctly I'll need advocation from 2 motus before an motu will upload the package, correct? [02:13] dear kded4, please stop dying [03:09] * JontheEchidna wonders when they'll release an nvidia-glx package that corresponds with the current kernel [03:17] * JontheEchidna sleeps [03:45] jjesse: wth is up with Michigan..I was there since Friday and all it did was rain [03:45] nixternal!!!!!!!!! [03:45] hola [03:46] it rained here too! whatta coinwinkydink :) [03:46] I am trying to get ahold of my ride for Penguicon, and I don't even have his recent info...hrmm [03:46] man, it rained for 36+ hours straight [03:47] ride for penguicon? so simple. do a tuxcart :) [03:47] hehe [03:47] I emailed all of the chicago lists hoping he reads at least one of them [03:48] otherwise jcastro's friend Gabriel and I will be walking :) [03:48] Kopete 0.55 (KDE4) is freaky... since Yahoo pics don't work, it's like having so many green eyeballs staring at you... [03:48] hehe [03:49] how many days till Hardy? [03:49] !countdown [03:49] :P [03:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about countdown - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi === kitterma is now known as ScottK2 [04:46] Riddell, yuriy (and one of you please tell awen when he's next around) - Just uploaded kde-guidance again. yuriy (and awen) thanks for contributing. [04:57] ScottK2: thanks :) hope it doesn't cause 100 other bugs this time [04:58] * ScottK2 too since I uploaded this one ;-) [04:58] I did look for issues that might break the api and I think this one is clean. [04:59] and this is why *some* languages have private functions [05:00] Python does too if you properly wrap them inside an object. === mi is now known as MuNzE [05:18] iijm or do we need to do a better job of milestoning bugs? [05:24] restricted-manager-core, ubiquity-frontend-mythbuntu, jockey-common, and displayconfig-gtk are all rdepends of guidance-backends, so in retrospect we should have tested/thought it through better. [05:24] This late in the cycle it'd have made sense to at lease download them and grep the source to see if they called the function we were changing. [05:27] my remark was unrelated, at least not directly. i noticed that you said it was a fix for a milestoned bug and i think that's the first time i've heard that for kubuntu [05:28] i've seen bugs "nominated" sometimes but never a milestone, and i dont' even know how one gets set [05:28] Ah. [05:34] heh https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/egonas1 i guess that's complete [05:35] * ScottK2 needs to get to bed. We can discuss another time. [06:29] hi there! [06:33] apachelogger: hey i somehow broke my whole installation last night lol back up and running [06:33] somewhat [06:34] oh dear. [06:35] Hobbsee: lol [06:35] im working on downloading the necessary updated pkgs then i have to install all the dev stuff and pick up where i left off and that was validating my gpg key [06:36] ô mon dieu! [06:36] lol [06:37] first i broke kde4 then it slowly got progressivly worse until i couldnt boot at all lol ended up getting a kernel panic [06:37] eagles0513875: good luck, if you don't manage to produce a fix until tomorrow I will have to create one myself since the issue has to be fixed for hardy [06:37] how the fuck did you manage to do that? Oo [06:38] apachelogger: ok u r more then welcome to go ahead and fix it im sure i can find some other bugs i can fix or stuff i can pkg [06:38] that sounds like giving up [06:38] im not givign up im just rather busy and im probably no where near getting everything i need setup i need setup my gpg key [06:39] and probably a whole buch of other stuff as well ill see what i can do im really going to try get it done pkged and everything by tomorrow though [06:40] eagles0513875: you probably should digg in the packaging howto some days, because that fix is actually straight forward considering I even gave you a step-by-step howto [06:40] "digg in"? :D [06:40] digg.com [06:40] hehe :D [06:41] apachelogger: thats what i was doing before i broke everything reading it goign through it and setting stuff up [06:41] Oo [06:41] there are like 3 things you need to setup for a packging fix [06:42] im goign to have to take a step back no setup my chroot environment again then all the pkgs needed then the gpg key [06:43] eagles0513875: just in case.... you know what a gpg key is, right? [06:44] apachelogger: it functions as a signature of the maintainer [06:44] eagles0513875: do you think it might be important to backup that key? [06:44] ya [06:44] ok, please do so right after you re-created one :P [06:44] ok good thing i hadnt verified it yet lol [06:46] after i get kernel update im off for now i have lectures today. going to try and get things done [06:47] apachelogger: ill be on later today [06:48] aye [06:48] * apachelogger has an english exam in half an hour [06:48] and no clue which topics he should know about [07:02] apachelogger: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4/kde4-backports/kde4.0 :) [07:03] stdin: bluetiful :D [07:04] hm, someone write tdown that word [07:04] bluetiful = KDE version of beautiful [07:17] hmm, my short "here's a bzr repo" email to k-m-kde4 has turned into a small essay... [07:21] apachelogger: so SuSE isn't the KDE version of beautiful? [08:02] <_StefanS_> hey there [08:28] c [09:26] apachelogger: im back [10:07] what pkgs can diff and patch and lintian and linda be found in [10:07] apachelogger: pong, sorry no net at home [10:07] Riddell: ping [10:08] sup j [10:08] hey eagles0513875 [10:08] !info patch [10:08] patch (source: patch): Apply a diff file to an original. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.9-4 (gutsy), package size 93 kB, installed size 188 kB [10:08] !info diff [10:08] diff (source: diffutils): File comparison utilities. In component main, is required. Version 2.8.1-12ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 110 kB, installed size 744 kB [10:08] :) [10:09] so those r already incleded somewhere in all this [10:09] * Jucato introduces eagles0513875 to http://packages.ubuntu.com [10:09] Jucato: im there already lol [10:09] * Hobbsee suggests using command-not-found to find them. [10:09] eagles0513875: you appear to be incapable of using it? [10:09] Riddell: http://www.kubuntu-es.org/ appears to be up and running, I'll have to poke rouzic about who runs it.. [10:10] * eagles0513875 :\ needs to remember to use it [10:16] jpatrick: nvm [10:17] yuriy: suse gnome > suse kde [10:17] apachelogger: aww :( [10:17] apachelogger: lol [10:18] jpatrick: well, if you want to backport amarok to gutsy.... ;-) [10:18] kde4 has taken on the suse look [10:18] eagles0513875: orly? [10:18] apachelogger: the setup is proceeding at a rapid pace [10:18] orly?? [10:18] apachelogger: funny, someone was asking for that in #kubuntu-es [10:19] eagles0513875: u r not up2date [10:19] jpatrick: well, it's out for 2 days now, and even longer in hardy ;-) [10:19] apachelogger: the lay out of the k menu now in kde4 is vry similar to open suse kde 3.5 layout [10:19] eagles0513875: well, it got adopted [10:19] eagles0513875: naturally [10:20] lol [10:20] i hate to say it kde4 still has long way to go [10:20] it has been ported from/based on Kickoff, so of course it would look like Kickoff [10:20] its going to be rather nice once it comes out [10:20] apachelogger: well, I'll look into it when I can.. probably this afternoon [10:21] unless you're running trunk, I won't qualify that as an accurate conclusion :) [10:21] let me make sure i go this stright to pkg u need to have setup a chroot gpg key and u have to update or crate a new changelog in source before repackaging [10:22] !gpg [10:22] gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts [10:23] * apachelogger agrees with Jucato [10:23] * apachelogger is compiling trunk again [10:23] only took me 4 months ;-) [10:24] Warning: probable borkage due to porting of Plasma to WoC [10:24] lol [10:24] i somehow borked my installation last night [10:24] plasma is overrated [10:24] kdesktop ftw :P [10:24] hahah :) [10:25] im trying to not bork it again today and get this bug fixed and checked by apache [10:25] * apachelogger is wondering how to break a system with a packging fix anyway :P [10:25] i have chroot setup and gpg key which i need to verify is that all i need to setup [10:25] apachelogger: lol i was screwing around with some things and it borked it [10:26] is anyone else experiencing this when i type sudo init 6 for some reason the screen goes blank and hangs even when using the icons to shutdown or restart it just gives me a black screen and hangs [10:27] im on 64bit hardy [10:27] stdin: nice mail [10:28] * Jucato has a very nice memory of the chroot instructions in the packaging guide :) [10:29] the guide suggested mounting (binding?) /home to the chroot... and one morning, upon waking up, I ran rm -rf / in the chroot to clean it... then I wondered why it's taking so long :) [10:29] before I knew it... my 32GB /home was reduced to about 10GB :) [10:29] ô mon dieu! [10:30] c'est terrible [10:30] Jucato: I once cleared /var and I went from 8GB to 2GB :/ [10:30] :/ [10:31] knowing me i would have borked my whole install lol [10:31] lol and funny thing im working on my linux cert [10:32] word of advice.. just dont't mount/bind your /home in your chroot (as the guide formerly suggested)... [10:33] i didnt do anything of the sort just created the chroot [10:33] had it build it at least [10:34] need to log out and back in really fast brb [10:35] * Jucato begins the timer [10:36] eagles0513875, which certification [10:36] am thinking about it as well [10:36] lpi(linux professional institute) 101 [10:36] yay i didnt bork anything getting my virtual box to work [10:37] im learning on centos cuz alot of questions are asked on it nice thing when u r taking the exam u can specify if ur going ot be using a debian or redhat aka centos os as ur os for answering the questions [10:38] there r 4 parts to the lpi certification with the hardest one being the first one [10:39] hmm thanks [10:41] no problem ill be in here quite alot so if u have any other questions feel free to ask [10:42] kk [10:43] stdin: wouldn't a simple checkout suffice (instead of a branch?) [10:43] eagles0513875: why not use debian? [10:44] jpatrick: dunno [10:44] contact lpi [10:44] ask them lol [10:45] in the case of my course alot of the hands on stuff we r doing is on a centos vm [10:46] which im doing on virtual box [10:47] has anyone had any reboot or shutdown issues with hardy [10:50] how do i back up my gpg key [10:50] eagles0513875: cp -r ~/.gnupg /some/where [10:52] what file is it thats in that folder [10:52] eagles0513875: or: gpg --output mykey.gpg --armor --export-secret-keys keyID [10:53] eagles0513875: it's encrypted in secring.gpg [10:53] eagles0513875: just make sure the secret key is kept safe [10:54] could i just do a simple cp [10:54] to the secring [10:54] eagles0513875: cp -r ~/.gnupg /some/where <--- simple cp [10:55] i know bout that but what i would like to know is will the machine still be able to read the copied file or would jpatricks other way be better [10:56] eagles0513875: well, either way, they'll still need your passphrase [10:56] gotcha lol im goign to kiss(keep it simple stupid) lol with me and my borking record i think simple is the best [10:58] * jpatrick out [10:58] later j [11:01] anything else i need besides pbuilder and those other pkgs and a gpg key === _Czessi is now known as Czessi [11:05] !changelog [11:05] Sorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [11:11] apachelogger: here goes nothing im goign to start fixing these bugs [11:11] aye [11:14] apachelogger: i have a chroot envrionment setup gpg key as well is that all i need [11:16] eagles0513875: pre-fixing, yes [11:16] ok *breathes deeply* hope what i do is to ur satisfaction [11:17] !u | eagles0513875 [11:17] eagles0513875: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun. If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you". The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on.. [11:17] darn it [11:17] * eagles0513875 bangs head on desk till starts bleeding slightly [11:18] apachelogger: all i have to do is mod the change log right [11:18] hm [11:18] !u | eagles0513875 [11:18] eagles0513875: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun. If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you". The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on.. [11:18] lol i didnt say it that time lol [11:19] still the question is a miracle to me [11:19] if it is a question at all [11:19] my question is this do i create a new change log or modify the one thats there [11:20] and if i just have to modify it how do i go about doing so [11:20] dch -i. [11:20] will that allow me to modify the one thats already there [11:20] yes [11:21] now i did that and its saying that its not writable [11:22] why not? [11:22] did you unpack the sources as root? Oo [11:23] i used apt-get [11:23] on the cli [11:23] nm answered my own question [11:27] darn changelog froze kate for me [11:28] what does dch -i [11:28] adds a new changelog entry [11:29] ok for some reason brought up a blank like kate doc [11:29] so i just write to that and it saves it to the change log [12:12] im back [12:13] apachelogger: is it essential that i be using the latest kernel [12:13] seele: ping #2 [12:14] jpatrick: so you've no idea who's running it? [12:20] how about a meeting at wednesday at 11? [12:20] Serega? kwwii? Hobbsee? [12:21] utc, or? [12:21] when i do sudo kate dhc -i it brings me a blank kate screen does this automatically then append it to the changelog [12:21] .... [12:21] Riddell: Hi, Jonathan. It would be cool. [12:21] dch -i is a command, not a file name. [12:21] you're trying to edit the non-existant file, dch. [12:22] i got it no [12:22] w [12:22] Hobbsee: 11:00utc [12:28] what's a place with utc time? [12:28] O_o [12:29] nowhere that I know [12:29] hmmm [12:29] maybe iceland [12:29] ascention island? [12:29] want me to google [12:30] iceland, azores ... and some places in W. africa [12:31] lol sierra leon [12:31] u guys would find this rather useful [12:31] http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx [12:32] i do use that, but i prefer to use the gnome clock applet [12:33] lol i got so upset last night when i borked my kde4 and whole installation last night [12:33] eagles0513875: i like that you say "i borked" ;) [12:34] nah. don't you know your time zone? I for instance am in +2 so if I would like to be in the meeting 13:00 o' clock would be the time [12:34] im in central europe llol i know im 7 hrs ahead of central us time lol [12:34] Riddell: is that our usual meeting time? [12:35] awen_: i did bork it lol was hoping to get this bug that needs urgent fixing fixed last night lol im actulally slowly working on it as we speak [12:35] the clock applet in kde3 has support for showing multiple timezones on mouse-over ... rather useful [12:35] Hobbsee: it is [12:35] Hobbsee: well, it was before summer time [12:36] we could change it for summer time [12:36] or whatever the australian equivalent is :) [12:36] yeah [12:36] then again, am i likely to be running kubuntu in the near future? [12:36] i'm already likely to be thrown off the council [12:37] :( [12:37] eagles0513875: he ... /me often uses virtual machines for the first critical test [12:37] council membership it due for renewal in May [12:37] <\sh> Hobbsee, but you are still on motu-release? :) [12:38] my borking of my entire install had nothing to do with the bug im working on its just me pulling a stupid one and 2ndly im on my old laptop since i cant get kubuntu on my new one so this is more like my test machine lol [12:40] what would be nice so people dont bork their installations is that if they run e2fsck it asks if they want to schedule one at next boot up link windows does when the drives in use [12:40] \sh: depends who's asking, and why :) [12:40] awen_: thats how i ended up borking my install [12:41] <\sh> Hobbsee, yokozar and I are in need an ack for a ia32-lib change :) [12:41] eagles0513875: sounds like a sure success of borking ... I [12:41] \sh: you'll need me very drunk for that. [12:42] awen_: lol yep j/w you experienceing any shutdown reboot issues cuz i seem to be either when i use the icons on the k menu or in command line with init 6 or 0 my screen goes black and nothing happens just hangs there and never reboots or turns off [12:42] <\sh> Hobbsee, really :) it just needs a new lib inside..bug #182731 .. so we can fix the last sound issues on amd64 and PA for wine :) [12:42] Launchpad bug 182731 in ia32-libs "Provide a lib32asound2-plugins package" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182731 [12:44] <\sh> Hobbsee, a debdiff is not usable for this package, though [12:45] awen_: what controls the rebooting and shutdown sequences [12:46] eagles0513875: what i know it is the init scripts ... and some udev stuff [12:46] i am thinking i might have found a rather critical bug that im bout to file [12:47] cuz when i issue init 0 or 6 or use the log out buttons all i get is a blank scree no shutting down or no rebooting [12:48] eagles0513875: could be a very borked init-script or something like that... if it is on the borked pc [12:48] awen_: i did a clean install this morning [12:50] eagles0513875: that is not good then ... maybe some of the log-files can reveal at least where it stalls? [12:50] awen_: lol one bug at a time i need to get this bug fixed before tomorrow then i can work on something else [12:51] awen_: where can i find the logs === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_away [12:51] !logs [12:51] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ [12:51] wrong logs Hobbsee [12:52] not of the irc my machines logs lol [12:52] /var/log [12:52] eagles0513875: he, of course ... you can look in /var/log [12:52] or use ksystemlog if you are a real gui type.... :P [12:53] eagles0513875: also try booting without the splash and quiet options ... will give you a lot more verbose output when changing runlevels [12:53] awen_: already taken care of [12:53] eagles0513875: :) [12:53] me no likey the splashy screenie lol [12:54] what log do i need to look at exactly [12:55] eagles0513875: messages and syslog is usually a good place to start [12:55] ok [12:56] im going to go ahead and file a bug report for it and upload those 2 files [12:56] i think otherwise ill do some sifting through the logs myself and see if i can fix it [13:00] im off to a gd start just updated the changelog [13:00] *good [13:01] apachelogger: *poke* for re-revu [13:02] Artemis_Fowl: hi. i got your video and i looked over it last night. haven't had much chance to do more than that tho [13:03] apachelogger: i got a question for ya before i do something and it borks things up for everyone else [13:03] seele: good. how did it look like? [13:03] Artemis_Fowl: like i said, i had concerned about how you put pages in tabs.. but other than that i didnt spend too much time on analysis yet [13:04] awen_: u think u might help me out before i bork something up on the fix im working on [13:04] awen_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/216529 [13:04] seele: hmm...I think I will have to release soon so any changes you suggest will have to wait for the next version [13:05] Artemis_Fowl: what u working on [13:05] eagles0513875: KGRUBEditor: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KGRUBEditor?content=75442 === kitterma is now known as ScottK2 [13:05] awen_: just ask, if there is anything you want me to test / look at [13:06] eagles0513875: ^^ [13:06] * awen_ is obviosly a bit self-centered today :P [13:06] Artemis_Fowl: this is for hardy? [13:06] awen_: Thanks for the Guidance update. [13:06] awen_: can u take a look at that bug [13:06] I uploaded it last night. [13:07] im not sure what in the source cod ei have to change [13:07] seele: not really. but all the features I intened for this release are almost done [13:07] ScottK2: i saw it this morning ... thanks to you also [13:07] * ScottK2 crosses fingers. [13:08] eagles0513875: it's the debian/control file that has to be changed [13:08] awen_: so i change the kde4 to kde3 [13:08] ScottK2: yeah, me too [13:08] anythign that says kde4 in there or will it only bork stuff [13:08] * awen_ has definately used his quota for breakage for this release [13:09] seele: please consider in your analysis that it is highly probable that a SystemSettings module will be created as a derivative from KGRUBEditor [13:09] awen_: lol so im guessing u dont know [13:09] Artemis_Fowl: yes, which makes the pages on your second tab even more problematic [13:09] seele: :) [13:10] eagles0513875: it's a packaging issue ... right now it says that you should either install kdebase-bin-kde3 or kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 ... this should be changed to only kdebase-bin-kde3 [13:10] only thing im finding is dependencies that say kde4 [13:10] seele: the Add/Edit/Copy/Remove Entry used to be actions in the toolbar and in the perspective of this becoming a module, I turned them into buttons [13:11] * ScottK2 heads off for a day at Disney World. See you all later. [13:11] later ScottK2 [13:11] ScottK2: enjoy [13:11] * eagles0513875 wishes apachelogger was here lol [13:12] eagles0513875: hmm ... try look at the changelog; might already be fixed [13:12] awen_: it hasnt been [13:13] * eagles0513875 off to get some food [13:13] eagles0513875: here ... look at "aptitude show kdebase-bin" [13:13] eagles0513875: right in the beginning of the depends line [13:14] im looking at the kdebase-bin-runtime-4.0.3 [13:14] look at "kdebase-bin" directly [13:15] awen_: i c what ur saying but im looking at the source code i have on my machine [13:15] im looking at the debian control of what i mentioned above and im not finding anything [13:15] am i looking in the right place [13:16] eagles0513875: you should be ... can you find the kdebase-bin package there [13:16] not there u want me to pastbin the control file [13:17] eagles0513875: which source-package are you looking at? [13:17] awen_: the kdebase-runtime [13:18] awen_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63167/ [13:18] eagles0513875: it has been filed wrong, you should look in kdebase ... use "apt-get source kdebase-bin" to be sure to get the correct source to the binary package [13:18] ok im going to change the pkg [13:19] Artemis_Fowl: if it turns in to a module, you have to be prepared that you won't be able to use the implicit save and will have to use save/cancel/reset functions instead [13:19] awen_: i have kdebase it also seems like the bug is in the runtime as well [13:19] seele: yes. I know [13:19] eagles0513875: go read the packging guide [13:19] seele: this is one of the incomplete features yet [13:20] eagles0513875: the last comment by apachelogger is about a package in kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 [13:20] seele: which will be in the impending release [13:20] awen_: ok [13:20] apachelogger: ok [13:20] seele: I've got the structure, so it won't be at all hard [13:20] ok [13:27] I have to be leaving in a minute or two here. [13:28] So see you all later [13:35] seele: last thing before I leave: consider the *uniqueness* of the app and its special needs. I am afraid the conventional methods won't fit to it [13:37] * seele doesnt think its all that unique.. === davmor2_away is now known as davmor2 [13:46] hi hi [13:56] is it just me, or has flash gone broken in konqueror? [14:03] back [14:05] awen_: kde 3 or 4? [14:05] Riddell: kde3 [14:06] awen_: Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't... reloading the page does the trick most of the time [14:06] smarter: it works only 20 % of the time here ... less than a week ago it worked flawlessly :( [14:07] and some pages using flash is simply impossible to get to work [14:07] example? [14:07] Riddell: ping [14:08] smarter: http://youtube.com [14:09] when it doesn't work, it also partly locks ... can't use shortcut keys, can't mark text in the address bar etc. [14:12] hi seele [14:13] hi Riddell [14:13] have you seen this kgrubeditor? [14:13] seele: not closely [14:14] did something change with how kernels are updated that makes having a grub editor a good ide anow? [14:14] i thought that anytime you update a kernel via adept it rewrites the grub config options [14:15] seele: yes it should [14:16] common use cases are windows overwriting the boot loader with its own so you can't get into linux any more (run from live CD to fix) [14:16] changing the default boot option (e.g. from linux to windows) [14:16] and compiling your own linux build and adding that (although that sort of user should be able to edit grub themselves I guess) [14:17] did the user types change? before i think it was mostly for non admins because admins would still want to edit the file by hand [14:17] Riddell: none at all [14:17] there are a lot more grub options in this UI, which is fine if that is what we're going for. Artemis said there were more options he was trying to add [14:17] that explains y my centos vm installation keeps getting borked lol [14:18] jpatrick: spooky [14:18] smarter: does it work for you in konqueror? [14:18] awen_: most of the time, yes [14:19] smarter: but no regression compared to a week ago? [14:19] No [14:23] morning :) [14:23] morning jjesse [14:24] morning jjesse [14:27] morning Jucato and jpatrick [14:27] apachelogger: almost got the first of the bug sorted just have to update the change log and repackage [14:28] cool [14:29] apachelogger: have the kdebase-bin almost ready for repackaging in regards to the 2nd part of ur submition i have to get kdebase-runtime and make sure its using kde3 base right [14:31] eagles0513875: -runtime is a KDE 4 package [14:31] apachelogger: could u explain to me what the 2nd bug is [14:33] kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 shouldn't replace/conflict kdebase-bin-kde3 [14:33] since they are using completely different paths [14:34] so what needs to be done just this bug where i remove what u mentioned up top [14:34] eagles0513875: read my last comment [14:34] it includes an AND [14:34] which pretty much makes it 2 issues which have to be fixed in order to resolve the bug [14:41] apachelogger: so i have to look in the kdebase-runtime-bin kde4 and do like i did above [14:42] eagles0513875: above? [14:43] apachelogger: do i do like i did in the original bug but fix it in the kdebase-runtime-bin kde4 [14:44] eagles0513875: read my last comment on the bug and evaluate whether the stuff before the AND sounds like the stuff after the AND [14:44] if it doesn't you probably have to do something different [14:44] same file however [14:44] ok [14:45] apachelogger: i only found one instance of kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 it was the dependency issue u mentioned above [14:46] eagles0513875: read my last comment on the bug again and evaluate whether the 2 issues are in the same source package [14:49] Hobbsee: ping ? [14:49] ScottK: ping too ;) [14:49] apachelogger: they would be in the same source pkg no [14:50] * jpatrick waves at Tonio_ [14:50] hey jpatrick :) [14:50] eagles0513875: really? [14:50]