damien_Okay, a lost+found folder showed up00:00
dwidmanngive the partition a label, add it to the fstab with the "user" option set?00:00
damien_But still cannot edit/delete/move anything00:00
dwidmann(also uid=1000,gid=1000,rw,exec,defaults00:01
Odd-rationaledwidmann: please help him put that drive in his fstab file. I failed...00:02
damien_How would I do all of that?00:02
damien_:/ Sorry I'm so much trouble00:02
dwidmannOdd-rationale: what's the drive's device? I can probably automate the stuff for him00:03
Odd-rationaledwidmann: ^ he pastebined "sudo fdisk -l" sda1 i believe.00:03
dwidmannOdd-rationale: don't know how well it will work all in all, haven't really tried it, but if all else fails it'll still be a simplified mount with in the fstab ...00:03
dwidmanndamien_: one sec00:04
spirooJucato: are you there?00:04
damien_dwidmann: okay00:04
* Jucato just woke up....00:04
dwidmannJucato: bright 'n early eh?00:04
WoxdeeUsing 7.10, smbd & nmbd running, I have set /media/hdb1 (ntfs) as shared through the system settings gui with 'advanced sharing', yet I can not get access to it: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) - the ntfs volume is mounted gid 100 uid 1001, with user 1001 having rw access normally.00:05
spirooJucato: Okay, well I got to ask you. Wondering, you know that I before installed qt4.4 from Riddells PPA. I wondering, how and which packages I should remove if I want to compile them myself instead: Seems like I cant get it to work if not. I have searched google, but i am not sure what I am looking for :d00:06
damien_dwidmann: I need to go right now, but if you could upload a .txt or something with instructions,I'd be grateful00:06
WoxdeeThat is the error even when attempting to smbmount it from the local host.00:06
WoxdeeWhat on earth am I missing?00:06
dwidmanndamien_: I've got it now00:06
damien_dwidmann: okay00:06
dwidmanndamien_: I need you to open up Konsole and copy and paste these commands in00:07
dwidmanndamien: sudo mkdir /media/external_disk00:07
damien_dwidmann: okay00:07
damien_dwidmann: Okay, done that00:07
Odd-rationaledwidmann: it is not external...00:07
dwidmanndamien: sudo su -c 'echo "/dev/sda1 /media/external_disk ext3 rw,user,gid=1000,uid=1000,exec,defaults 0 2" >> /etc/fstab'00:07
Jucatospiroo: again, you don't need to remove anything (unless the package is breaking other stuff). you just need to compile Qt in your home folder and set the environment variables (like QTDIR or PATH) to point to the correct locations, in the correct order. this will "overshadow" your qt installed from packages00:08
Odd-rationalesudo mv /media/external_disk /media/bad_disk....00:08
dwidmannOdd-rationale: oh it isn't? oh well, it'll still work, it'll just be oddly named until we fix that :s00:08
damien_Okay now what00:08
spirooJucato: I am afraid that it does break "other stuff" :D00:08
dwidmanndamien: umm, one sec, gonna rename it for you since it isn't external00:08
dwidmanndamien: sudo mkdir /media/sda100:09
Jucatospiroo: what other stuff are broken?00:09
dwidmanndamien: sudo sed -i /etc/fstab -e "s/external_drive/sda1/g"00:09
spirooJucato: Some packages was broken and seems to conflict when I should compile KDE.00:10
dwidmanndamien_: now try it and see if it works, I hope it will00:10
damien_Nope :(00:11
dwidmanndamien_: okay, try this in Konsole: sudo umount /dev/sda1 && mount /dev/sda100:12
Jucatospiroo: as I didn't use qt4.4 rc1 packages, I have no idea really what were upgraded.. you can try downgrading them perhaps?00:12
dwidmanndamien_: See if you can access the files now, at /media/sda100:12
spirooJucato: How do I do that? :P00:12
damien_Still can't do anything :/00:12
dwidmanndamien_: you said you need to go right? be sure to drop back later ..... I'll figure something out if I'm around when you come back00:13
damien_I'm staying here now :P00:13
dwidmanndamien_: oki doki00:14
Jucatospiroo: I kinda forgot but "sudo apt-get install package=version"00:15
Jucato(as I said, I just got up...)00:15
dwidmanndamien_: can you pastebin the following things for me: 1) the contents of /etc/fstab file, 2) the output of the "sudo parted /dev/sda print" command, and 3) there is no 3.00:15
spirooJucato: Understandable :P00:15
spirooJucato: Funny thing is that I do not remember which package it instaleld :D00:16
Jucatospiroo: check the logs... /var/log/00:17
damien_Nothing happens when I do sudo parted /dev/sda print00:17
dwidmanndamien_: hmm,00:17
spirooJucato: Thanks, will do00:18
dwidmannOdd-rationale: are you sure it was /dev/sda* ??00:18
damien_It was dev/sda100:18
damien_Here's the other thing you requested00:18
Odd-rationaledwidmann: see the output of fdisk -l ^00:18
Odd-rationaledwidmann: he said it was like 160 gb...00:19
dwidmannOdd-rationale: damien_: but if /dev/sda doesn't have a filesystem, /dev/sda1 can't exist. That's nonsense ..... :s00:19
spirooJucato: Weird but I think it solved itself now :D Without haveing to fix qt4.4 :P00:20
dwidmannOdd-rationale: that command above that I had him try to run should have printed /dev/sda's partition table ....00:20
dwidmannOdd-rationale: basically fdisk -l, but a bit prettier output, and a bit more specific about partition types00:21
dwidmanndamien_: how much data do you currently have on that disk?00:22
damien_About 7gb00:22
damien_7.51gb to be exact00:23
dwidmannIt looks like that one command I had you run a while ago didn't do anything at all, which is exceedingly odd. Did it give you any errors when you tried to run it. (it was the one after the mkdir command, before you said you were going to leave, then decided you were going to stay, and such, back then)00:24
damien_hold on00:25
dwidmanndamien: this one: sudo su -c 'echo "/dev/sda1 /media/external_disk ext3 rw,user,gid=1000,uid=1000,exec,defaults 0 2" >> /etc/fstab'00:25
dwidmanncrud, forgot to change the external_disk thing again, but you know which one it is now00:26
damien_Nope, no errors00:26
dwidmannanyhow, lets try this again damien_, ::: sudo su -c 'echo "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ext3 rw,user,gid=1000,uid=1000,exec,defaults 0 2" >> /etc/fstab'00:26
damien_Nothing at all again00:27
dwidmanndamien_: try this: tail -1 /etc/fstab00:27
damien_Nothing :/00:28
* dwidmann is confused now00:28
damien_Me too ;_;00:28
dwidmannyou copied and pasted "tail -1 /etc/fstab" right?? ..... if that doesn't work then something's wrong ....if it outputs nothing that means your fstab is empty, which it isn't because you posted it a while ago00:29
dwidmannunless it recently became empty ....00:30
damien_I copied+pasted, nothing happened, it didn't put out my name+computer name or anything like that00:30
damien_Just blank.00:30
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dwidmannthat means it's still attempting to run something, maybe you included a quote (singular, ie: not both), and it's still waiting for a closing quote.00:31
dwidmanndamien_: try pressing ctrl+c and then running the command again00:31
damien_Okay there we go00:32
spirooGNU/Linux works too perfect, the only problem is us, who cannot handle it :D It is for me most of the time anyway :D00:32
damien_ /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       000:32
dwidmanndamien_: and lets try that other command again too: maybe it was the same problem then (seeing as it looks like I was write about the quote thing)00:33
dwidmannanyhow, lets try this again damien_, ::: sudo su -c 'echo "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ext3 rw,user,gid=1000,uid=1000,exec,defaults 0 2" >> /etc/fstab' ------- be sure to include the single quote at the end00:33
damien_I did that, it asked me to enter my password, I did, then it went back to damien@damien-desktop:00:34
dwidmanndamien, alright, now the tail -1 thing again:::::::::: tail -1 /etc/fstab00:34
damien_ /dev/sda1 /media/external_disk ext3 rw,user,gid=1000,uid=1000,exec,defaults 0 200:35
dwidmannGooood, goooooooooood, it worked this time :)00:35
pagan0necan anyone in here tell me where i can get help w/ kubuntu 8.04 beta?00:35
dwidmanndamien_: sudo umount /dev/sda1 && mount /dev/sda100:36
dwidmannpagan0ne: #ubuntu+100:36
dwidmannpagan0ne: and maybe #kubuntu-kde400:36
damien_mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,00:36
damien_       missing codepage or helper program, or other error00:36
damien_       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try00:36
damien_       dmesg | tail  or so00:36
dwidmannOdd-rationale: well, /dev/sda1 definitely doesn't exist or doesn't have an ext3 fs.00:37
damien_It says it does in qtparted00:37
dwidmanndamien_: the mount command is compelled to disagree apparently00:37
DarkriftXdamien_, have you tried 'cat /proc/partitions' ?00:38
Odd-rationaledwidmann: i even made him run "sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1" and appearently it had no errors...00:38
DarkriftXthat tells me if the partition is there, just not much about it00:38
dwidmanndamien_: try running "sudo e2fsck /dev/sda1"00:38
dwidmannOdd-rationale: that may be a bad thing seeing as he says he had data on that disk .....00:39
damien_e2fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)00:39
damien_/dev/sda1: clean, 11/19218432 files, 651105/38409399 blocks00:39
Odd-rationaledwidmann: he wanted to delete everything...00:39
dwidmannOdd-rationale: he did? Oh, then that *greatly* simplifies things00:40
dwidmanndamien_: I vote for creating a new partition table. I'd say this is a nice time to introduce you to either qtparted or gparted, pick one.00:40
damien_I have qtparted, what now?00:41
dwidmanndamien_: (or parted or fdisk if you want to)00:41
dwidmanndamien_: one sec then, let me fire it up so I can walk you through it in a hurry00:41
dwidmannlooks like I need to get it first, gimme 60 secs00:42
Odd-rationaledwidmann: just use cfdisk... :)00:42
dwidmannOdd-rationale: I'm familiar with it also.00:42
Odd-rationaledwidmann: qtparted is buggy. imo00:42
Odd-rationalegparted is better, but install bunch of gnome deps. gksudo, ect.00:43
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dwidmannOdd-rationale: yeah, it's significantly better, but dependency wise it isn't too heavy, kind of worth it IMO ..... especially the gparted live cd (or better yet, systemrescuecd, which includes it and a plethora more)00:44
dwidmanndamien_: alrighty then, I've got it up00:44
damien_dwidmann: okay00:44
pagan0neok, i hope someone can help me, im starting to get the run-around here, i just installed kubuntu 8.04 and sudo, kdesu, kdesudo, and gksudo ask for a password but fail to launch anything... anyone help please?00:46
dwidmanndamien_: crud, I can't touch anything, this is going to be partial guesswork on my end00:46
javier__someone has a problem with konqueror and flashplugin-nonfree 9.0.124 in gutsy gibbon?00:46
dwidmanndamien_: first, go to operations -> format00:46
damien_I cant00:46
damien_It's unclickable00:46
javier__after updating from flash-plugin 9.0.115 youtube for example show  a grey box in the place of the video...00:47
dwidmanndamien_: hmm, to heck with qtparted, pull up Konsole and we're going to do this with parted .... more stable anyway00:47
dwidmanndamien: sudo parted /dev/sda00:47
damien_Okay, now what00:48
DarkriftXi love cfdisk for command line partitioning.... cfdisk -z /dev/xxx works great to start a fresh partition table00:48
dwidmann damien_: type "mklabel" without the quotes00:48
dwidmanndamien_: it will ask you for the type, type "dos" (from hereon out, don't include the quotes .... kay?)00:49
damien_I typed dos and it asked again00:49
damien_Wait, dos has to be in quotes?00:49
dwidmanndamien_: now type mkpartfs, it will ask you some questions, the type of partition you want is ext3, you want it to run from 0 to 16000:49
dwidmann**to 160GB00:49
dwidmannit has to not be in quotes00:50
damien_New disk label type?  [msdos]? dos00:50
damien_New disk label type?  [msdos]?00:50
dwidmannmsdos will do00:50
DarkriftX[xxxxx] means default00:50
dwidmannforgot that it wants msdos instead of just dos00:50
damien_primary or extended?00:50
dwidmanndamien_: primary00:51
dwidmanndamien_: 000:51
damien_Oh ok00:51
damien_Alright, now it just says (parted)00:51
dwidmanndamien_: and you put in 160GB for the end I presume? type print to make sure00:52
damien_I just put 16000:52
damien_and print outputs this00:52
damien_Disk /dev/sda: 160GB00:52
damien_Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B00:52
damien_Partition Table: msdos00:52
damien_Number  Start  End  Size  Type  File system  Flags00:52
dwidmanndamien_: that probably won't do, you need to type print to check that it didn't take it as oh, say, 160B00:52
dwidmanndamien_: is there anything beneath that? if not, the partition _hasn't_ been created00:53
damien_Nope, nothing00:53
damien_Start over?00:53
dwidmanndamien_: probably the 160, you needed to put 160GB00:53
dwidmanndamien_: yes, same procedure, except 160GB this time00:53
damien_Okay, it says (parted again)00:54
damien_(parted) again00:54
dwidmanndamien_: "print" and see if it made the partition00:55
damien_The default for FS is ext200:55
damien_Same thing as before00:55
dwidmanndamien_: you want ext3 though00:55
damien_Well, print outputs the saem as before :/00:55
dwidmannThat's ..... odd, to say the least00:56
dwidmanncan you pastebin the contents of that terminal where you went through parted trying to get it to create the partition?00:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)00:56
Odd-rationaledwidmann: kind of wish one had root ssh access and do it oneself...00:56
DarkriftXare you just trying to create a new single partition adn lose whatever is on the disk?00:57
DarkriftXif so, cfdisk -z /dev/sda will work great00:57
DarkriftXthat starts a new partition and its menu driven00:57
spirooah this is life. Waiting for kdebase to be compiled from the trunk :D00:57
dwidmannspiroo: might want to take a nap00:57
spiroodwidmann: Yes, a good idea ;) Maybe I will soon.00:58
Fritzeldoes anyone know why I can get this http://pastebin.com/d103d4b31 and still be online? something is off here00:59
Daisuke_LaptopFritzel: i'm guessing magic?00:59
Daisuke_Laptopor you can just try pinging google.com or comcast.net00:59
FritzelI'm starting to think that as well00:59
Fritzelpings work01:00
dwidmannDarkriftX: if you look at the contents of that pastebin though, it *looks* right ... odd eh?01:00
Daisuke_Laptopthen it shouldn't be an issue01:00
dwidmannOdd-rationale: you betcha01:00
DarkriftXFritzel, in vista, i had an issue where no http/ftp would work, but irc and other stuff would work just fine (pings also). it turned out to be a socket problem which was the final push to linux for me.... i talked to someone in here who had a similar issue in linux01:01
FritzelDaisuke_Laptop: normally it wouldn't be but I keep getting disconnected from wow like every 1-2 minutes01:01
dwidmanndamien_: I've an idea now01:01
damien_dwidmann: okay01:01
dwidmanndamien_: try using mkpart instead - when it asks you for the partition type enter "n" (without quotes)01:01
DarkriftXdoes look right dwidmann but somethign isnt working01:01
FritzelDarkriftX: -nod- I don't have a clue how to diagnose that though01:02
dwidmanndamien_: (that is, mkpart instead of mkpartfs)01:02
DarkriftXFritzel, me either :S01:02
DarkriftXdo you see any socket errors? and does a reboot fix it?01:02
dwidmanndamien_: and you don't have to recreate the partition table again, that was a one time deal01:02
damien_Partition type?  primary/extended? n01:02
damien_Partition type?  primary/extended?01:02
FritzelDarkriftX: I do have some updates to install though so I'm going to do that on my magical internet connection and see what results I get then01:02
dwidmanndamien_: primary,01:02
damien_Oh you said n >_>01:02
dwidmannI oopsed01:02
dwidmannnot for the partition type, but the file system type01:03
* dwidmann slaps his forehead01:03
damien_oh ok01:03
sparr_whats the easiest way to get files from a windows vista pc to an ubuntu pc?  over the network, no sneakernet01:03
DarkriftXsparr_, ftp?01:03
Daisuke_LaptopDarkriftX: i wonder if this is similar to the issue people have where they can connect here but can't connect to anything via http through konqueror01:03
DarkriftXsetup an ftp server on the vista box and login with the linux one01:04
damien_Dolphin opened a new window after that01:04
damien_It gave me some giant error01:04
damien_Then when I tried to make a folder01:04
damien_Same error as before :/01:04
Daisuke_Laptopsparr_: samba, probably01:04
damien_That the creating of it failed01:04
Daisuke_Laptopor ftp, yes.01:04
sparr_DarkriftX: yeah, i might have to do that.  my linux ftpd allows the windows box to connect, but never offers a login prompt01:04
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: and if that's the case, removing knetworkmanager should help IIRC01:04
DarkriftXsome dont01:04
DarkriftXsome expect the client to "offer" the login info01:04
Daisuke_Laptopdwidmann: this isn't a problem with NetworkManager, why is KNetworkManager so different?01:04
Daisuke_Laptopit confuses me a little..01:04
sparr_Daisuke_Laptop: samba is a no go.  dont want to make sambad work in linux, and vista is pissing me off by not showing up in netbios scans01:05
sparr_DarkriftX: doesnt work from ftp://user:pass@host in windows explorer either01:05
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: I just remember something about that, I forget the details, that was *ages* ago01:05
sparr_DarkriftX: and when i ftp localhost on the linux box, i get a prompt01:05
chris123anyone played with kubuntu on the eeepc?01:05
DarkriftXwell, ftp server on vista isnt that hard01:05
sparr_this is one of the most ridiculous windows/linux incompatibilities01:05
Daisuke_Laptopthen you have sneakernet01:05
damien_dwidmann: no help?01:05
Fritzelmeh, same results01:05
Odd-rationalechris123: if i had one01:05
dwidmanndamien_: have you tried "print" in parted yet? has it created a partition?01:05
sparr_Daisuke_Laptop: no, i dont, because the only CDRs i have are a color that one of the machines cant read01:06
DarkriftXdamien_, lets try something new01:06
DarkriftXthis should be cake to do01:06
damien_dwidmann: it has01:06
Daisuke_Laptopsparr_: it is ridiculous.  you can install Services For Unix (i don't know if it's part of Vista or not, but it's available free from MS) and you can use NFS01:06
damien_dwidmann: I just still cant modify files in the partition01:06
dorkfacekrdc should be able to login to a remote windows xp pro box, right?01:06
dorkfacegiven the right permissions01:06
DarkriftXdamien_, you have the partition created now?01:07
dwidmanndamien_: it's an empty partition, to create the file system, close parted,  (type quit), and type "sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1"01:07
DarkriftXahhhh, ext3 now fat?01:07
cannonwhats the kubuntu version of gedit?01:07
Odd-rationalecannon: kate01:07
FritzelI'm going to reset my cable modem to factory defaults, and try that, I do get results to my router, but not to the cable modem01:07
damien_dwidmann: darkriftX: it's writing inode tables now01:08
DarkriftXthats where you want it01:08
DarkriftXafter that, you should be able to mount it01:08
dwidmannOdd-rationale: no, kedit is a bit more of an equivalent .... completely stripped down for a fast start time. Handy sometimes01:08
dwidmannOdd-rationale: kate is better though01:08
DarkriftXi said kedit01:08
DarkriftXhe said kate01:08
Odd-rationaledwidmann: kedit is not included by default. is it? kwrite is...01:09
DarkriftXkate is sloooow as hell for me though (good, but slow)01:09
damien_dwidmann: darkriftx: okay, it finished, now what?01:09
DarkriftXi like the good old nano!01:09
Daisuke_Laptopnano's good for quick edits, yes01:09
dwidmannOdd-rationale: kedit isn't in by default, but that doesn't mean it isn't basically equivalent to gedit (like darkrfitx said)01:09
DarkriftXsudo mount /dev/sda1 /whereveryouwantit01:09
* dwidmann likes good, older vim01:09
dwidmannDarkriftX: it's already in the fstab01:10
DarkriftXthen just nmount it without destination01:10
Daisuke_Laptopyou dirty vi-loving dog, everyone knows emacs is superior!01:10
damien_So what do I do then01:10
DarkriftXwhatever you want with it01:10
* Daisuke_Laptop sits back and enjoys the show01:10
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: bah humbug01:10
Odd-rationaledwidmann: ok. just didn't want him to come back and say "kedit: command not found" you know...01:10
DarkriftXthrow masses of prawn or pirated movies on it if you want.... the possibilities are endless01:10
dwidmannOdd-rationale: hm, true01:10
damien_So I do umount /dev/sda1 right?01:10
Daisuke_Laptopwhy would i put shellfish on a hard drive?01:11
DarkriftXimount is unmount01:11
DarkriftXits 'mount /dev/sda1'01:11
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: decoration?01:11
Daisuke_Laptopi dunno, just that he mentioned prawns...01:11
damien_dwidmann: darkriftx: got an error:01:11
damien_mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,01:11
damien_       missing codepage or helper program, or other error01:11
damien_       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try01:11
damien_       dmesg | tail  or so01:11
dwidmanndamien_: go to /media/sda1 and see if you can create a file01:11
DarkriftXwas my g-rated method of mentioning xxx related material01:11
DarkriftXwow, after all that, nothing changed01:12
damien_I can't :|01:12
Daisuke_Laptopno one here has any interest in that sort of thing.  except that guy, and that guy, and that guy through that guy inclusive...  and that guy...01:12
dwidmanndamien_: try dmesg | tail and see if it has anything interesting for us to look at01:13
Odd-rationalewe're a bad lot here... :(01:13
damien_This is what is output by dmesg | tail01:13
dwidmannwow, so I messed something up afterall01:14
dwidmannit was all me, I feel horrible now01:14
DarkriftXdid we want fat or ext3?01:14
dwidmannOh well, only human right?01:14
* ubuntu lala01:14
damien_darkriftx: ext301:15
DarkriftXi c01:15
dwidmanndamien: kdesudo kate01:15
damien_Okay, kate is opened.01:16
dwidmanndamien_: in the last line, remove the parts "gid=1000,uid=1000,"01:16
DarkriftXin fstab im guessing?01:17
dwidmanndamien_: and it should finally be fixed ......PS I wish mount gave nicer error messages01:17
damien_Remove it from where O_o01:17
dwidmannDarkriftX: ummmm, yup01:17
damien_Oh ok01:17
dwidmannsorry about that, I get ahead of myself ..... a lot01:17
DarkriftXits the finished product that matters01:17
DarkriftXand im sure he had a learning experience01:18
dwidmannDarkriftX: hopefully not an overtly negative one01:18
damien_We aren't done yet, guys01:18
DarkriftXif the drive works and he knows more then he did, i dont see why it would be01:18
damien_Access denied.01:18
damien_Could not write to /etc/fstab.part.01:18
DarkriftXkdesudo kate /etc/fstab01:19
DarkriftXdont know where the .part. came from, never seen that before01:19
damien_Okay it saved01:20
dwidmannDarkriftX: some editors might create things like that (like vim's .swap things) ... see a lot of .part with download managers.01:20
damien_Still not done01:20
dwidmanndamien_: try "mount /dev/sda1"01:20
damien_mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/external_disk busy01:20
damien_mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /media/external_disk01:20
dwidmanndamien_: sudo umount /dev/sda1 first then01:21
DarkriftXlol, umount it then01:21
williami added a new hard drive,  how do i automount it and select where it mounts01:21
damien_Access denied to /media/external_disk/New Folder.01:21
dwidmannwilliam: have you partitioned it yet?01:21
williamit's actually an ext3 formatted file system from another ubuntu machine of mine01:22
DarkriftXbtw let me rant for a moment about naming it "umount" instead of "unmount", what kind of idiot would change the spelling of something that was intuitive to remove ONE CHARACTER01:22
dwidmanndamien_: sudo rmdir /media/external_disk; cd /media/sda101:22
ign0ramushey guys.  this is probably really stupid, but - how do i get my Google search bar back in Konqueror?  it disappeared today, and I can't get it back! :/01:22
Jucatoign0ramus: Settings -> COnfigure Extensions -> make sure Search bar plugin is enabled. if it's not there, install the package konq-plugins01:23
Daisuke_LaptopDarkriftX: someone concerned with number of keystrokes to do something rather than readability?01:23
dwidmannDarkriftX: you've got me .....01:23
damien_rmdir: /media/external_disk: Device or resource busy01:23
damien_bash: cd: /media/sda1: No such file or directory01:23
DarkriftXone more keystroke to leave it intuitive01:23
Daisuke_Laptopone keystroke too many!01:23
DarkriftXwhy not then unmnt ?01:23
Daisuke_Laptopmnt and umnt would have made more sense to me01:23
dwidmanndamien_: cd /; sudo rmdir /media/external_disk; sudo mkdir /media/sda1; sudo umount /dev/sda1; cd /media/sda101:24
Odd-rationalesudo umount /media/external_disk01:24
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: agreed01:24
Daisuke_Laptopi'm going to have to pastebin my iso mounting script when i get back to the desktop01:24
ign0ramusjucato: thx man :)01:24
damien_mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/sda1': File exists01:25
damien_umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted01:25
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/iso /mount/point01:25
Odd-rationalebetter yet "sudo umount -l /media/external_disk" that will take it out. then rmdir /media/external_disk01:25
Daisuke_Laptoplittle more involved01:25
dwidmanndamien_: does your /etc/fstab say "/media/external_disk" or "/media/sda1"?01:26
Daisuke_Laptopchecks to see if /media/iso exists, creates it if it doesn't, mounts and unmounts depending on switches used01:26
dwidmanndamien: sudo sed -i /etc/fstab -e "s%external_disk%sda1%g"01:26
damien_ /dev/sda1 /media/external_disk ext3 rw,user,exec,defaults 0 201:26
Daisuke_Laptopnothing spectacular, but trying to get a new user to remember those arguments is futile (in my experience)01:27
damien_dwidmann: okay, it went back to damien@damien-desktop:01:27
damien_Still cant edit files/etc01:28
dwidmanndamien_: now try to "mount /dev/sda1; cd /media/sda1; sudo chown $USER:$USER /media/sda1; Then try to create files01:28
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter01:28
damien_mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/sda1 busy01:29
damien_mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /media/sda101:29
dwidmanndamien_: that's okay, you can ignore that now01:29
damien_Thanks guys :D01:30
damien_Sorry it took so long01:30
dwidmanndamien_: now, try this: ln -sf /media/sda1 $HOME/sda101:30
Cannoni've just gone into Disk and Filesystems to mount a drive and it won't let me even after entering admin password01:30
damien_But you were right, it's been a very productive learning expierience for me01:30
william                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              01:30
Daisuke_Laptophey Fritzel: had a bit of an issue traceroute-ing comcast.net myself.  hit my router, but apparently never made it01:31
damien_Nothing happened after that dwidmann01:31
dwidmanndamien_: uh huh, look in your home directory!01:31
Cannon!mount terminal01:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mount terminal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mountterminal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:31
damien_I see nothing but a folder named damien01:31
FritzelDaisuke_Laptop: I seem to have similar results wherever I do it01:32
Odd-rationaledamien_: look in /home/damien01:32
dwidmanndamien_: that's odd, it should have added a link to /dev/sda1; try this --- ln -sf /media/sda1 /home/damien/sda101:32
damien_Ah okay, I found it01:33
Odd-rationaledwidmann: i think he just looked in /home01:33
damien_Thanks :D01:33
Odd-rationaledamien_: glad you got that fixed!01:33
dwidmannOdd-rationale: *nod*01:33
damien_Thanks so much :D01:33
Daisuke_LaptopFritzel: so at least we know that it's not a problem on your end01:33
dwidmanndamien_:  no problem at all01:33
Daisuke_Laptopcomcast is just satan's isp.01:33
damien_Time to head out, thanks again guys.01:33
Cannonif I have my kubuntu installed on a hard drive ... amd I allowed to mount a partition on another hdd?01:33
Cannoncos it doesn't seam to be letting me01:34
dwidmanndamien_: and if I weren't such a screw up tonight you wouldn't have gotten to learn as much :)01:34
FritzelDaisuke_Laptop: I did however just redo my entire network configuration and I'm getting almost 7.5M/s (double what I was getting earlier) so at very least it couldnt' have hurt01:34
Daisuke_Laptopgood call01:34
Odd-rationaleCannon: what do you mean by "mount a partition on another hdd"?01:34
Daisuke_Laptopi would like to say i hate you, but i mean that in the nicest way possible.  3mbps is ridiculous, and barely worthy of being called "broadband"01:35
Cannoni can't seem to get access to sda4 Odd-rationale01:35
Odd-rationaleCannon: just wait. i'll be back....01:35
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: it can get much, much, much worse than that01:35
Daisuke_Laptopoh i know01:35
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: that would be a major trade up if I could get something like that :(01:36
Daisuke_Laptopbut it's ridiculous to see the US (in an urban area) getting absolutely horrendous speed compared to the vast majority of europe01:36
Daisuke_Laptopwell, that's not entirely fair01:36
Daisuke_Laptopit's also partly my apartment complex's fault01:36
Daisuke_Laptopthey won't let verizon run fios here01:36
Daisuke_Laptopi could have 15/15 :(01:37
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: I'd love to have that too :(01:37
williamme too01:37
williamdoes anyone here use sli01:38
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: instead I've got 1mbps/200kbps01:38
Daisuke_Laptopwe also can't get actual cable television, they have us locked in to a cruddy satellite service (not dish/directv, i'd be okay with that.  $37 a month for about 40 channels...  it would be a lot cheaper if we could choose NOT to get espn :( )01:38
Daisuke_Laptopdwidmann: that's painful01:38
williamxorg seems to weird out when i try to boot in linux with 2 sli cards01:39
Daisuke_Laptop15mbps both ways is almost like a dream to me01:39
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: not half as horrible as you think from hearing that -- I also have an ugly FAP, horrendous bill, and 1s latency.01:39
Daisuke_Laptopor just last-mile?01:40
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: most unfortunately01:40
* Daisuke_Laptop cringes01:40
Daisuke_Laptopi'm okay with my service now01:40
Daisuke_Laptopat least for internet01:40
Daisuke_Laptoptelevision does NOT impress me :(  i don't watch ESPN, why should I be paying for it?01:40
Daisuke_Laptop(not to mention ESPN2, ESPN Classic, FOX Sports...  10% of my channels account for 25% of my bill if not more :\01:41
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: when I lived in town though, man, that cable connection was something else. I used to have like 40mbps/400kbps .... it was a new area, practically no subscribers. Why oh why oh why did I have to move T_T01:42
Daisuke_Laptopgood question01:42
Daisuke_Laptopdoes it make me a complete nerd if part of my criteria when getting a house is connectivity?01:42
Daisuke_Laptopwell, a major part of the criteria01:43
Odd-rationaleCannon: ok .back. what was the problem?01:43
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: download wasn't capped, I'm grabbing the download number off of what I had pulled off of someone with a T3 connection one time. I clocked it at 5.5MB/s, sustained.01:43
Daisuke_Laptopfor instance, if i can get really fast service, i don't care if i'm 15 yards from train tracks01:43
Cannonmounting sda401:43
dwidmannDaisuke_Laptop: you and me both01:43
Cannonsudo mount /dev/sda1 ... something missing here?01:43
Odd-rationaleCannon: you need a mount point01:44
Odd-rationaleCannon: sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt01:44
william... /dev/sda1 /media/sda101:44
Odd-rationaleCannon: and the mount point must exist.01:44
Cannonthanks, working now01:45
Odd-rationaleis there a way to have bash completion in konversation?01:45
Odd-rationalethat would be great...01:45
dwidmannOdd-rationale: the name completion can be made bash-style, but apart from that I don't think there's anything else you can do about things01:46
Odd-rationaledwidmann: does other irc clients have bash tab completions? irssi?01:53
sparr_when there are multiple open-with associations for a filetype, how can i change the one that gets used for a normal doubleclick/enter/open?01:54
dwidmannOdd-rationale: I dunno, haven't felt the need to use anything other than konversation01:54
dwidmannsparr_: right click the icon, properties, click the little wrench01:55
dwidmannsparr_: then use move up/move down to change the order around01:56
nohelphereis there discussion for Kubuntu hardy heron here?02:16
spantherheya what do i have to do that my ubuntu completely turns into an kubuntu?02:16
mac|martallinohelphere: #ubuntu+102:16
mac|martallispanther: sudo apt-get install #kubuntu-desktop02:17
spanthermac|martalli, thats all?02:17
spanthermac|martalli, i've installed the package "kde" so is that bad now?02:17
mac|martalliI believe so.  You will still have gnome or whatever you started with as a possibility in the login screen02:17
mac|martallispanther: Probably not02:17
spantherokay :)02:18
mac|martallikde is probably a dependency of the kubuntu-desktop metapackage02:18
spantherand how to remove gnome completely? i wont have compatibility issues later between gnome and kde02:18
mac|martalliWell, I havbe not tried this...02:19
mac|martalliYou might try sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop02:19
mac|martalliand then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:19
mac|martalliMight want to hear if anyone else here has tried it02:19
mac|martalliIn fct, you might want to log out, then log into the "console" choice from the login screen first, since gnome will probably be unastable after uninstalling the #ubuntu-desktop =)02:20
spantheroh and where to get a clean new kubuntu sources.list? mines modified and well i dont know everything to redo it02:20
mac|martallior to run these commands from tty console (ctrl-alt-f1 for example)02:21
mac|martallispanther:  It's the same exact repos02:21
spantherno i mean i had played around with other ressources i put in there02:21
mac|martalliWhat did you add to it?  Just comment out or remove the lines that you added before.  There azre not repos specific to standard kubuntu or ubuntu, though02:22
spantherthats the problem i cant remember what has to stay in there and what can be removed02:22
mac|martalliSounds like you know how to edit the actual /etc/apt/source.list file, though02:22
spanthersure ^^02:22
mac|martalliDid you make a backup of the original file?  Something like 20071215.sources.list02:23
spanthernope :(02:23
spantherDaisuke_Laptop, yes?02:23
williamdoes hardy handle multiple (SLI) videocards well?02:23
Daisuke_Laptopediting should create a backup automatically in /etc/apt/02:23
Daisuke_Laptopsources.list~ i believe02:24
spantherbut after a second edit wont this sources.list~ overwritten then?02:24
mac|martallispanther I am sure you could find one somewhere, but you could probably get a virginal copy by booting from the livecd and copying the file to a usb key or emailing it to yourself02:24
Daisuke_Laptopquite possibly02:24
Daisuke_Laptopwould be quicker to get a new one elsewhere...02:24
spantheryep :)02:24
spantheri only need informations which sources have to stay inside02:25
mac|martalliwhich version spanther?02:25
spanthercause i ever get "install packages without verification" errors hehe02:25
spanthermac|martalli, this doesnt matter version is just a project name i can change ever :)02:25
mac|martalliThat just means your haven't uploaded all the right gpg information02:25
spantherits gutsy actually02:26
mac|martallispanther - I was looking for a copy on the web of the standard sources.list...but that varies a little from version to versiopn02:26
spantherooh i thought they only switch these names like "gutsy" or "hardy" and so on02:26
Daisuke_Laptopthat *does* default to the UK repository archive02:26
williamhal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 100002:27
spantherthis is yours? :)02:27
Daisuke_Laptopthis is 30 seconds of googling :D02:27
spantherDaisuke_Laptop, dont be like this you surely know that "you" will see if thats what you need cause you know if thats right or a wrong list but how should i know this? :P02:28
spantheryoure more experienced so you see it :)02:28
Daisuke_Laptopit has the major repos (main, restricted, universe, multiverse), plus gutsy-security, gutsy-updates02:29
spantheri can search for things too but maybe follow wrong ways and end up with a messed up system because of a bad manual :)02:29
Daisuke_Laptopjust googled "default gutsy sources.list"02:29
=== william is now known as nonewmsgs
mac|martalliThere is also the source-o-matic but its apparently down02:29
nonewmsgsi am having trouble mounting a drive02:29
Daisuke_Laptopfor the repos, as long as they actually say ubuntu.com, you should be okay02:30
spantheryes Daisuke_Laptop but you have the knowledge to see if thats the true list or a wrong one :)02:30
nonewmsgsi would like it as home/me/newdrive02:30
Daisuke_Laptopspanther: that's jsut a matter of being around for a while02:30
nonewmsgsbut i would settle for at least being able to access it02:30
mac|martalliYeah, I learned almost everything I know about linux here on freenode02:30
spantherDaisuke_Laptop, its better to ask people who are more experienced than doing something what could destroy the system because of trying itself :)02:30
Daisuke_Laptopyou look at enough copies of sources.list, you start to recognize what is and isn't right :)02:31
spantheri prefer learning from others who know it than trying it myself02:31
Daisuke_Laptopahh...  no, i didn't mean you should have been able to find it right off02:31
Daisuke_Laptopi was just saying that i found a copy through google rather than using my own02:31
spantheris that correct that initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic were installed now?02:31
mac|martallispanther - make sure you have a separate /home partition and almost nothing can damage your system beyond repair02:31
Daisuke_Laptop(which is so far from default it's almost come 'round the other side)02:31
Daisuke_Laptopspanther: in gutsy, that's right02:32
Daisuke_Laptopthat's the current gutsy kernel version02:32
spantherDaisuke_Laptop, i mean it updated now after installing kde-desktop :)02:32
spantherah okay02:32
Daisuke_Laptopshould be alright :)02:32
spantherwell okay lets try brb ^^02:32
mac|martallikubuntu-desktop, not kde-desktop02:32
Daisuke_Laptopgoing to reboot myself, going to check out opengeu02:33
spantheryay for me the blue kubuntu bootsplash is much more pretty and the login screen has more details like this account preview :)02:36
mac|martalliIs is unfortunate that the better DE is the ugly step sister to gnome in the *buntu world.02:37
spantherDE ?02:37
nonewmsgscan i mount a new hard drive in my home folder??02:37
mac|martalliBut even without proper attention from Canonical, kubuntu is a great OS02:37
spanthernonewmsgs, if you create a dir sure you can mount into that dir :)02:37
mac|martalliDe = desktop environment02:37
spanthermac|martalli, so do you mean gnome is better? ^^"02:38
spantheror how do you mean your sentence02:38
nonewmsgsthanks spanther02:38
nonewmsgsso i just edit my fstab02:39
mac|martallino, I think KDE is much better then gnome02:39
spanthernonewmsgs, you can point with mount to every folder as target for your desired partition :)02:39
spanthermac|martalli, ah okay :)02:39
mac|martalliThat's why kubuntu can be so good, even when they employ so few people (mainly just Riddell) to keep kubuntu going02:39
mac|martallinonewmsgs - Is this a usb dev ice, or a new HD in your computer?02:40
spantherwell for real i think kde 4 is ugly i've seen some pictures of it and i dont like this well overloaded design :(02:40
spantherits a bit like vista X.x02:40
mac|martallispanther - it s really prettyy nice, but like vista the dressy bits take upa afir bit of screen space.  It will need some tweaking to fit into places like the eee pc02:41
nonewmsgsmac|martalli: new hard drive in my computer02:41
mac|martallispanther - However, by the time 8.10 comes out I think it will be very spiffy02:41
spantherwell :X02:41
mac|martallinonewmsgs - Does it show up in /media?02:42
spantheri do like the blue standard design of 3.5 which looks functional modern and slim :)02:42
nonewmsgsno :(02:42
mac|martalliYou could just link it to you /home folder if it did02:42
mac|martallinonewmsgs: Hmmm02:42
mac|martalliWas it recognized by the BIOS?  Sometimes the power isn't there or the cables aren't quite tight02:43
nonewmsgsit is recognized and shows up in ohh yes taht media02:43
nonewmsgsit shows up in "media" but not in "/media"02:43
spantherokay booted with kdm and into kde so nothing of gnome is running how to remove gdm and gnome now? completely? somebody knows which packages?02:43
mac|martalliProbably you need to mount it and then it will be in /media...Double click in dolphin02:44
nonewmsgsit wont02:44
nonewmsgsi made folder for it and it says already occupied02:44
mac|martalliCan you double click on it from dolphin and see files in it?02:45
nonewmsgsotherwise it says hal-storage fixed-mount refused uid 100002:45
mac|martalliSometimes you need to give yourself rwx privleges02:45
mac|martallion the drive, or edit fstab02:45
mac|martalliI don't think I can help with that off the cuff02:45
spantherrwx = read write  and??? whats x ? :)02:46
spantherah ok :)02:46
Daisuke_Livethis is...  interesting02:46
mac|martalliMaybe daisuke can help02:46
Daisuke_Livei'm trying to figure out what makes opengeu so special02:46
Daisuke_Livefeels like ubuntu with enlightenment as the default WM02:47
mac|martallinonewsmsgs put a new hd in his computer and can't get access to it now02:47
mac|martalliDo you know how to edit fstab to give him privleges to the HD, or to mount it with every boot?02:48
nonewmsgshuh i got it with kdusudo and kate02:48
nonewmsgsjsut now02:48
nonewmsgswhile looking for fstab02:48
nonewmsgs..so it is working but i still can't find fstab.  i looked in /boot02:48
Daisuke_Livenonewmsgs, it's in /etc02:48
* nonewmsgs wuold have voted for /boot02:49
VincentHey guys. I'm trying to install the drivers for my NVIDIA 8800 GTS using the sh command, but I'm told that Server X is keeping it from doing its job. Could I have a clue how to shut Server X down and how to bring it back up?02:50
Daisuke_Livenope, boot loads the kernel and mounts the root filesystem...  after that's available then the root filesystem takes over02:50
VincentI'm new, as you can see02:50
mac|martalliVincent  - in kubuntu, use system settings02:50
spantherVincent, use the "init 3" command means "sudo init 3" :)02:50
spantherthis closes kdm and X02:50
spantherthen later "sudo init 5" to go back :)02:50
Daisuke_Livethat won't work02:51
mac|martallinvidia drivers can be installed from the gui in kubuntu02:51
VincentI have the .run file from the Nvidia website downloaded though...02:51
nonewmsgsnow i want "nodev,nosuid 0 2" right?02:51
spantherDaisuke_Live, why not?02:51
mac|martalliNo need to download directly from nvidia and install in the shell02:51
Daisuke_Livespanther, runlevels are handled very oddly in ubuntu02:51
VincentWhat if I want to get used to working with the shell and Linux though?02:51
spantherDaisuke_Live, damn v.v  well.....yeah i was thinking what i've learned from debian :/02:51
Daisuke_LiveVincent, then choose another project to do so, this will only cause heartache02:52
Daisuke_Liveevery time you update the kernel, your video will not start02:52
Daisuke_Livebit of a hassle, really02:52
mac|martalliVincent - you can do that, but if you let ubuntu do it, then the nvidia driver is less likely to break with kernel updates02:52
VincentAlright so where in System Settings do I find this?02:52
Daisuke_Liveso you're going to want to go through system settings for this one02:52
Daisuke_Liverestricted drivers, i believe02:52
VincentTotally makes sense02:52
nonewmsgsDaisuke_Live:  do i want nodev,nosuid 0 202:53
mac|martalliIt should have offered it to you on your first boot, but that can be easy to miss02:53
VincentSo basically I just check the NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver checkbox?02:53
Daisuke_LiveVincent, exactly02:53
spantherDaisuke_Live, i've learned runlevels from debian where ubuntu is based on i didnt knew it better ^^"02:53
Daisuke_Livespanther, no worries :)02:53
spantherthey really should give the real runlevels back to us :)02:54
Daisuke_Liveanymore there's not really any need02:54
Daisuke_Livenonewmsgs, what filesystem?02:54
VincentOh and one more thing, how do I setup my dual-screens on Ubuntu?02:55
nonewmsgsmy new fstab line "/dev/hdb1 /home/william/newdrive1 nodev,nosuid ,2"02:55
Daisuke_Liveyou need the filesystem type in there02:55
Daisuke_Livetry "/dev/hdb1 /home/william/newdrive1 ext3 rw,defaults 0 0"02:55
* nonewmsgs doesnt understand the last stuffs02:56
Daisuke_Livenor do i, that's why i opt for defaults02:56
Daisuke_Livei'd give you the lines i use for ext3, but i'm on a livecd right now02:56
spantherbut i think i really will miss this steal like bar for tasks and the good old K root menu when 4.0 comes :(02:56
nonewmsgswhen i moved /home to another drive i followed the howto and it said to do it like this02:56
Daisuke_Liveturns out opengeu is pretty nice02:56
nonewmsgs /dev/sda1 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 202:57
nonewmsgsthats what i based mine on02:57
VincentWell thanks for the  help. I'll reboot to see how  those new drivers work02:57
kelsa|martallispanther - there is an option for the old kde menu, although I am starting to get used to the new one02:58
Daisuke_Livegive mine a shot, save fstab, then sudo mount -a02:58
kelsa|martallispanther: In fact, my five year old is fine with the new menu =)02:58
Daisuke_Livekelsa|martalli, i think for me it's just not being used to it fright off...  once the favourites is populated i should be alright :\02:59
nonewmsgshere we go im a-rebootin.  if i dont come back ina  couple minutes that means my computer won't start :P02:59
spantherkelsa|martalli, but the new is like vista i mean this switching inside of a panel from menu to menu i like this old tree menu more i can find things much faster there than on these new designer menus :/02:59
Daisuke_Livenonewmsgs, whoa02:59
Daisuke_Liveno need to reboot to mount a filesystem!02:59
kelsa|martalliDaisuke_Live: That's true.  They should also allow for some more variations before committing to 4.1, so you can have more apps in the favourites list, for instance03:00
spantheryour five year old doesnt know it better :PPP he's using what you give to him ^^03:00
kelsa|martallispanther: let katapault bring you back to the cli days03:00
Daisuke_Livenonewmsgs, once it's saved, sudo mount -a03:00
kelsa|martallialt-space and type a few letters03:00
kelsa|martalliYou might forget what the k is down there for03:00
nonewmsgs[mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab03:00
Daisuke_Livekelsa|martalli, i use yakuake :D03:00
spantherbut i do like this K  :P03:00
Daisuke_Livenonewmsgs, make sure you hit enter after that last line03:01
Daisuke_Live(in kate)03:01
nonewmsgsbut it works03:01
kelsa|martallispanther: Like I said, they have the old K menu as an alterantive in kde403:01
Daisuke_Livenonewmsgs, told you :P03:01
nonewmsgsthanks  :D i love you (in a very hetro way) and i love linux03:01
spantheri hope they wont ever remove  the old one cause i need it :) its easier to find things and faster for me ^^03:01
spanthernonewmsgs, who doesn't ? xD03:01
Daisuke_Livekelsa|martalli, yakuake is possibly the greatest thing since sliced bread.  alt+~ gives me a dropdown terminal window no matter what else i'm doing :D03:02
spantherkelsa|martalli, gratulation for your son btw. :)03:02
Daisuke_Livei've already decided that when i have children (in about a year or so) their first experience will be with ubuntu...  or my old trs-80 :D03:03
kelsa|martallimy son is just 5 lol03:03
spantherDaisuke_Live, a good choice xD freedom in code = freedom in mind :)03:03
kelsa|martalliMy vic 20 needs a $20 TV connector...but the trs-80 outclasses a vic 2003:03
nonewmsgsit isnt letting me delete stuff off my drive?03:04
kelsa|martallikubuntu is great for kids,,,lots of educational software03:04
kelsa|martallinonewmsgs: You don't have proper privleges03:04
nonewmsgsaccess denied03:04
nonewmsgshow can i mount it with proper privledges03:04
Daisuke_Livenonewmsgs, change that line in fstab to rw,defaults,uid=100003:04
spantherhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/KDE_4.png  <-- this black bar is so ugly and this menu so slow xD its like vista eye candy :P but i prefer Win2000 over Vista xD03:05
Daisuke_Livei will expose him or her to linux fist and foremost, but if they choose windows, so be it.  but my fiancee, her parents, my parents all use ubuntu :D03:05
nonewmsgs[mntent]: line 12 in /etc/fstab is bad03:05
Daisuke_Livecan you pastebin your fstab?03:05
spantherkelsa|martalli, for real this menu i know it out of suse allready you click at "applications" then you wait till they come up then you click at a section to get the ingredients if there isnt it you have to go back its so slow xDDD03:06
kelsa|martallispanther: It would be nice if we could go through the menu (any menu) with keystrokes.  Of course, i am an old fogey who used programs like wp 5.1 just before they fell in the face of gui competitors03:08
Daisuke_Livethere ya go :)03:08
Daisuke_Liveahh, wordperfect...  those were the days03:08
kelsa|martalli95% of users out there would do anything to avoid the cli (probably 99% actually)03:08
kelsa|martalliWhy, in my day I actually used a dumb terminal to telnet into port 6667 to irc directly into the server when they were working on the server at school03:09
spantherkelsa|martalli, why so complicated the actual kde is slim and simple so its nice xD maybe it would need a more nice more glossy skin but the menu is nice its not a good idea to copy vista or suse :)03:09
nonewmsgsit mounts now but i still cannot delete03:09
spanthernonewmsgs, no rights?03:10
kelsa|martalliActually, the new kde will include modern features like compppositing fromthe ground up and integration will be even better03:10
nonewmsgsread just fine03:10
nonewmsgsbut still cannot write03:10
kelsa|martalliSome reports are that the new kde will be faster than the current kde03:10
spantheryeah like vista is faster than XP :P03:10
spantherwho believes this xD03:11
kelsa|martalliI like the old kde, too, though (its what I am using right now =)03:11
nonewmsgsnow this is actually another linux drive i yanked from another computer.  it couldnt' be holding onto those privlidges cuold it03:11
Daisuke_Livespanther, except kde4 actually does make a lot of optimizations, mostly in the form of QT403:11
kelsa|martallispeed is pretty similar for me between kde3 and kde4.  I have never used vista, but I find it shocking that my wife's g4 mac mini can do most of the graphical trcks that vista does, all with an anemic 1ghx powerpc processor03:12
kelsa|martallivista must be a mess03:12
Daisuke_Livenonewmsgs, it's possible03:12
Daisuke_Livemay have to do some chown magic...03:12
Daisuke_Livei'm not sure about that though...  anyone else got any ideas?03:13
spantherkelsa|martalli, dont be shocked since vista works with 1ghz too :)03:13
kelsa|martallivista is the end result of constantly working to be backward compatible, to the point where there is little resilience left int he sytem itself03:13
nonewmsgschown ~/newdrive1 77703:13
Daisuke_Livenope, that's chmod03:13
kelsa|martallispanther: expose' and all the graphics eye candy included?03:13
Daisuke_Livechown william:william ~/newdrivel03:13
spantherkelsa|martalli, well yes :)03:14
spantherit just has to cache lol03:14
kelsa|martalliWow, I find that interesting.  Are you pulling my leg?  Why 2gb for every vista machine?03:14
spantherbut 1ghz and 1gb ram is enough :)03:14
kelsa|martallioic lol03:14
Daisuke_Livethere has to come a time where you say "maybe it's time we should stop supporting legacy apps from a decade ago"03:15
spanthermy notebook has 1gb vista runs fine ^^ was included with it03:15
Daisuke_Livemy notebook has 2gb ram and has never seen vista (or windows of any kind)03:15
nonewmsgsstill access denied03:15
Daisuke_Livedid you unmount it then remount?03:15
spantherbut for real this "vista needs 2gb" is bullshit ^^"" *sorry for badword lol*03:15
kelsa|martalliDaisuke_Live: Now that vm are so easy, there seems to be no reason to really require it.  My wife's mac mini has a os9 emulator (we use it for the kids' games) and it appears to be basically a vm running on top of the osx unix box03:16
spantherit needs up to 400mb of ram03:16
spanthermac mini is so cute *-*03:16
kelsa|martalliIf MS was smart, they would do the same thing for windows 7 - tak freebsd and bend it to their will, with builtin windows xp vm for older programs03:16
Daisuke_Livespanther, you're not going to get aero and all of the stuff that they actually touted as "features" of windows vista03:17
Daisuke_Liveyou will have a basic system that will run fairly well03:17
Daisuke_Liveprobably on par with xp at that level03:17
kelsa|martalliYeah, it was cute but a *(&^*&^ to upgrade the hard drive and memory03:17
spantherDaisuke_Live, i know but 1gb and 1ghz is more than enough for vista :) for "running" it ^^03:17
Daisuke_Liverunning yes.  running with the eye candy, not so much03:17
kelsa|martalliI had to actually go buy a putty knife to get the thing open03:17
spantherwell my notebook has ran vista home premium with eye candy aero glass smooth lag free :P03:18
spantheras long it was on it *gg*03:18
Daisuke_Livenot long, i would imagine03:18
Daisuke_Livei will return shortly03:18
nonewmsgsi kdesudo dolphin and fixed it all ups03:19
spantherwell for one month trying around vista is nice but i need more usability and less ressource usage because of battery life so i used ubuntu :)03:19
kelsa|martalliOur two windows computers at the office are still running xp.  We'll skip vista I imagine and just keep up with xp03:19
kelsa|martallithe other 10 or 12 are all running kubuntu03:19
kelsa|martalli(well, one is a ubuntu server and another is an ipcop firewall03:19
spantheroh btw. vista runs at 1ghz and 1gb of ram but if you want to have aero and a smooth working then you need 1,6ghz x2 core2duo and 1gb ram like i have :)03:20
kelsa|martallispanther: discrete graphics or intel?03:21
spantherthese 3D windows eat cpu if you move them fast with mouse hehe03:21
spanthergeforce7600go 128mb gddr3 :)03:21
kelsa|martallioh, sounds like my dell m121003:21
kelsa|martallimust be something else03:21
spantherToshiba Satellite A100-00A03:22
kelsa|martallidid anyone see the new hp mini laptop?03:22
kelsa|martalliLooks very nice03:22
spantherIntel Core2Duo 1,60GHz 120gb s-ata geforce7600go 128mb and intel 3945ABG wireless nice for linux btw this notebook :D03:22
macisp2000what is the name of the kde menu that is like SuSe so I can install it on Kubuntu?03:23
spanthereverything runs well wireless included ^^03:23
nonewmsgsok now that we took care of that easy question i have a harder one.  i have multiple 7900s with sli but linux sometimes seems weird about it.  like i can get to a screen that says in one moment a screen will come out and say if it comes out right and nothing changes03:23
kelsa|martalliI don't know if it is available on kubuntu...but is it called kicker?03:23
macisp2000that's it.  I thought they would have it in the repositories, strange.03:24
kelsa|martallinonewmsgs: I have only setup multiple screens and other such things once and used the nvidia-settings program03:24
VincentI just used nvidia-settings, it worked wonders03:24
kelsa|martalliThat worked well, I would forgoe other methods of trying to do funny stuff with yuor video card03:24
spantherhttp://www.easylinux.de/Artikel/ausgabe/2005/11/012-news/kde_suche.png i just love this menu :D when with a slightly background shadow which looks little 3D :)03:25
nonewmsgsbut for now i am off to bed.  need some sleep03:26
spanthernow thats funny where's the need for multiple graphics cards at linux ? ^^03:26
spanthergood night nonewmsgs :)03:26
nonewmsgsspanther: it's my windows gaming rig/dvd ripping rig03:27
spantheri see03:27
* kelsa|martalli lusts for dual core xeon machine like a mac pro or similar...for getting the big boinc scores03:27
kelsa|martallibut then computers don't grow on trees, and neither does moeny03:28
spantherwell one day i'll buy a mac mini :) its cheap small and quiet :)03:28
spantherit is quiet right? Oo03:28
nonewmsgsi remember this 4 year old girl at the grocery store asked her mother for something.  her mother said paper doesn't grow on trees and the little girl said money is made from paper and paper comes from trees03:29
kelsa|martalliExtraordinarily quiet.  It never makes noise (of course, I have three kids in the house =)03:29
spanthernonewmsgs, how cute XD03:29
spanthershe's right :)03:29
macisp2000Is there a way to use the KDE default control panel?, I don't like the one in Kubuntu.03:29
kelsa|martalliInstead of a mac mini: http://system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=8303:30
nonewmsgsi was impressed.03:30
spantheruh kelsa|martalli now this owns o.o03:30
merkekeim brand new to linix, just came from windows vista. any cool things i should know?03:30
kelsa|martalliHer Mom was probably rueing telling her where paper comes from03:30
spantherLOL a computer wich means all features :D03:30
kelsa|martalliHi merkeke03:30
spantheri just wanted to have a mac mini because its small and nice for desktop ^^ but i prefer a real PC :3 so this is nide kelsa xD03:31
merkekeso is their anything instresting i should know?03:31
kelsa|martallimerkeke: Depends on what you want to do with it03:31
spanthermerkeke, i know something cool :) all software is free and you dont have to call support to unlock your pirated copy :D xD03:31
kelsa|martalliFor getting on the web and writing the occasional letter,then you practically don't have to know anything03:32
kelsa|martalliWhat are you using?  Kubuntu I imagine?03:32
merkekewell to start out. my sound isnt working on my pc. the speakers on my computer dont work but when i hook external speakers to it, they work??03:32
kelsa|martalliDo you see the little speaker down in the lower right corner?  double click on it03:32
spantherkelsa|martalli, well this koala mini only 595dollar means much less than mac ? :)03:32
merkekeyeah i opend the mixer. now what03:33
kelsa|martalliYou probably just need to turn up the volumes03:33
DarkriftXcan anyone help me get my kmix working with my oss sound?03:33
merkekelol already did that03:33
DarkriftXit says it shoudl work, but kmix shows no devices in the device selection drop down03:33
kelsa|martalliIs something muted?03:33
DarkriftXossxmix sucks and id like to use kmix or soemthing very close to it03:33
kelsa|martallispanther: I think it is close to the mac price, maybe a little sheaper03:34
spantherbut it comes with ubuntu :D yay xD03:34
kelsa|martalliBoy, I need to go to bed03:34
kelsa|martallignight all03:34
spanthernightynight kelsa ^^03:34
kelsa|martallisorry merkeke, but I have to work tomorrow03:34
merkekelol me too03:34
merkekeill probably be on here alot so talk to you later if your always on03:35
ere4siDarkriftX: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-575521.html - is a howto03:35
DarkriftXty, ill check it03:35
macisp2000where do I start and configure Compiz in this?03:36
macisp2000I can't find anything without the kicker menu.  lol03:36
Jucatomacisp2000: for your first question, Alt+F2 "kcontrol" will run the original KDE control center03:36
Jucato!compiz | macisp2000, for your second question03:37
ubotumacisp2000, for your second question: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion03:37
macisp2000There is my sweet control panel.  thanks, anyway to make it the default one?03:37
Jucatoedit the K Menu (right-click on the K icon -> Menu Editor03:38
macisp2000It shows it being install in synaptics, so I thought it was in there some where.  lol03:38
macisp2000I am trying to learn more about kubuntu, I have been using PCLinuxOS and making my own remasters.03:38
merkekedid any one try out gOS yet?03:39
macisp2000Is there a way to install kicker easily??  I only have knowledge installing with synaptics.03:39
Jucatohuh? kicker is already installed by default unless you're on KDE 403:40
DarkriftXere4si, im looking at that, but my oss already works.. i just hate ossxmix and kmix doesnt see my sound card with oss installed03:41
macisp2000Maybe I am using the wrong wording, I only have the normal kde menu, I want the one that is kinda like SuSe which I thought was called kicker.03:41
DarkriftXeveryone tells me kmix shoudl work, but its not03:41
macisp2000When I right click on the kde menu, I have no other options for kicker03:42
DarkriftXi see one thing in there about kmix, but i dont understand what its telling me to do03:42
DarkriftXOSS just overwrite library, that KMix is not able to work with. We need to preload old lib03:42
DarkriftXLD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libasound.so.2.0.0 kmix03:42
ere4siDarkriftX: First KMix:03:42
ere4siOSS just overwrite library, that KMix is not able to work with. We need to preload old lib03:42
ere4siLD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libasound.so.2.0.0 kmix03:42
DarkriftXdoes that go in a config file or do i set that in terminal?03:42
macisp2000I have the menu editor open, what is the path for kcontrol03:42
merkekeim new to this...where the hell is kmail?03:43
Jucatomacisp2000: that's called kickoff, and as you have guessed, it's not installed03:44
Jucatomerkeke: KMail is embedded into Kontact (K Menu -> Office), but you can run it separately if you want by pressing Alt+F2 and typing in "kmail"03:44
Jucatomacisp2000: you can try searching in kde-apps.org for a .deb package for Kickoff that you can install03:44
macisp2000I got the control path working.  thanks.03:44
macisp2000now to find kickoff03:45
macisp2000again thanks.03:45
ere4siDarkriftX: that is a terminal command03:45
macisp2000Is there something similar to mklivecd for kubuntu?03:45
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DarkriftXere4si, same as without.... no options in the dropdown03:51
ere4siDarkriftX: rebooted yet?03:54
DarkriftXahhh, needs a reboot?03:58
ere4siDarkriftX: yep03:59
DarkriftXok, i hope it works, brb in a few04:01
greegi just installed 7.10.  i noticed over time that the system will eventually run slower than when a fresh installation?04:02
greeghow can i maintain reasonable speed.04:02
greegwill have home on a seperate hard drive help?04:02
greegsince i download alot04:03
heinkel_111greeg: this sounds wrong, your system should always run as good as the day you first booted it04:04
heinkel_111unless you change something04:04
greeglike what?04:04
greegi dont really change much.04:04
neville_greeg, did you accidentally boot back into Windows? :P04:04
greegi dont run  windows04:04
heinkel_111greeg: like starting to download all the time maybe?04:05
neville_Way to kill a joke greeg...04:05
neville_What did it ever do to you?!04:05
greegi have been running pure ubuntu for 3 years, and i have to make a ritual of reformatting as if it were windows04:05
heinkel_111greeg: when your system is slow, try top type "top" into a Konsole window04:05
greegheinkel_111: i run amule.04:05
DarkriftXere4si, rebooted and still didnt work (kmix didnt even load liek it normally does). I then ran that command again and still nothing in the dropdown04:05
DarkriftXim guessing its just a lost cause04:05
greegheinkel_111: yes i know of top,  but how do i know what to look for ?04:05
DarkriftXill keep looking for another mixer that will work04:06
heinkel_111greeg: check if that process, or some other process, use a lot of cpu04:06
greegit's more like a  bunch of useless processes.  just not sure which ones are critical.04:06
heinkel_111greeg: watch it for some time (20 secs or so) and notice the PU and % MEM columns04:06
greegkk thanx04:07
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heinkel_111greeg: watch it for some time (20 secs or so) and notice the CPU and MEM columns04:07
heinkel_111greeg: if one process climbs to near 100% CPU, that signals trouble (not always but most of the time)04:07
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carmanhello evry one04:11
carmanhello roby, i am from mEXICO  and I am testing the kubuntu applications04:11
carmanwhere are you from04:11
Roby718so am I!04:11
pirate_chefhey all04:11
Roby718hi che04:12
carmanI am new on this plataform,what about you?04:12
Roby718**** compaq presario 900 series keyboad!04:12
Roby718So am I04:13
Roby718is there an EO client for linux?04:13
greegim going to mount a slave hard drive,  to a sub dir of the drive that i boot to.  is there a way to find out the file system type of a device that is physicially installed but not yet mounted (with out having to boot in that device)?04:13
ere4siDarkriftX: did you   sudo soundon    in a terminal?04:14
DarkriftXOSS is already loaded04:14
DarkriftXthats the output i got04:14
Roby718oh greeg you might whant to use a disk util.04:16
greegahh fdisk -l04:16
Roby718did that work?04:17
ere4siDarkriftX: try   killall kmix   and then   kmix   in a konsole04:18
Roby718whats his problem DarkriftX04:19
DarkriftX********************   WARNING   *******************************04:20
DarkriftXWarning! kmix uses ALSA emulation instead of the native OSS API04:20
DarkriftXkmix: relocation error: /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kmix.so: symbol snd_mixer_free, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference04:20
DarkriftXERROR: Communication problem with kmix, it probably crashed.04:20
Roby718i mean ere04:20
DarkriftXkmix doesnt like my oss sound04:20
DarkriftXit used to work for alsa (but alsa didnt give me any sound)04:20
DarkriftXwhen i got oss working, kmix stopped working04:20
Roby718what it works for me04:20
starkrunkDoes anybody know how to get Debian certification?04:22
ere4siDarkriftX: lets try something else - what is the sound card - maybe alsa can work with it04:22
DarkriftXits a nvidia04:22
DarkriftXlemme get you the info04:22
DarkriftX00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)04:22
Roby718nividia does sound?04:23
DarkriftXi couldnt get also working with it, so someone in here had my try oss which eventually worked04:23
DarkriftXproblem being that kmix doenst work, and headphones arent detected (i have to turn off internal speakers when i plug in headphones)04:23
merkekeguys im new to this and when i tried going into my monitor and display settings and clicking administrator mode. it said KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned controle module...any help?04:24
ubuntu_i'm needing some help.. i manually changed my hostname by editing /etc/hostname with vim... after a reboot.. i can't perform an administrator task with the reason: "hostname ____ can't be resolved" where the underscore area is my new hostname... i can't edit the file.. so i rebooted into a live kubuntu cd.. do i need to change the hostname back to what it was??04:26
ubuntu_that's why i'm in live cd so i can do that04:26
ubuntu_changes applied.. brb04:27
mEck0Hi I can't change my desktop background (kde 3.5.9) :( When I choose another picture, and then Apply-button, nothing happens :(04:34
ere4siDarkriftX: try in konsole - asoundconf set-default-card NVidia - seems to be one solution04:34
geniimEck0: Have you tried when just on the desktop and no windows in focus to do F5 key?04:34
ere4siDarkriftX: and are you using the 386 or generic kernel/04:35
DarkriftXLinux kubuntu 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux04:35
DarkriftXand that didnt seem to do anything04:35
DarkriftXi restarted kmix and still no options04:35
mEck0genii: *testing now*04:35
mEck0genii: yep, nothing happens04:36
geniimEck0: OK. Some changes need this refresh desktop to take effect. Others require an X server restart. Are there changes you made which have not taken effect currently?04:37
mEck0genii: no04:38
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BigcheeseI'm running the development version of Kubuntu Hardy and a recent update broke kopete. Now when I try to connect to any of my IMs nothing happens. It is as if the connect code was replaced with a call to do_nothing();.04:38
geniimEck0: Perhaps then make some change which should be obvious to spot and then logout, at login screen hit ctrl-shift-backspace to make sure X gets restarted, then login again and seeif it took04:39
ubotushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Gutsy (7.10) CDs04:39
mEck0genii: I have tried that too, since I realized I have this problem a couple of days ago04:39
geniiBigcheese: For 8.04, #ubuntu+1 (until after April 24th)04:39
Bigcheesegenii: k04:40
geniimEck0: OK04:40
geniimEck0: Is the picture you try to use owned by the user you are running as?04:40
geniimEck0: Or at least readable04:41
mEck0genii: can I delete kdesktoprc in .kde/share/config/ ? and it will be recreated? because it looks a bit messy04:41
genii(to that user)04:41
mEck0genii: yes it is04:41
geniimEck0: Yes, it rebuilds all files in that folder whenever the app it it the resource file for is started04:41
mEck0genii: ok, trying that now04:42
* genii hands maduser a coffee04:42
geniimaduser: :)04:42
maduserwhats el problemo?04:42
maduserso whats going on?04:43
geniimaduser: The ones I currently know of: mEck0 can't change his desktop background (7.10) Bigcheese having issues with his instant messenges with kopete after 8.04 upgrade (referred to #uuntu04:44
geniireferred to #ubuntu+104:44
Jucatostupid Enter key, eh? :)04:44
geniiJucato: hehe laptop keyboard04:44
Jucatomaduser: and genii handed out coffee to you only04:44
mEck0genii: now it works perfectly =) I saw that the end of the kdesktoprc file was messy, deleted it and changed wallpaper via kcontrol :)04:44
* genii slides Jucato a coffee in a shiny ne Kubuntu mug04:44
geniimEck0: Ah, nice :)04:45
Jucatogenii: ne?04:45
mEck0thx guys04:45
K`zanHi folks, no luck finding out what package this is in, but I get this when I try to print:04:45
K`zan     sh: ppmtogif: not found04:45
geniiJucato: I blame all typos past and present to my crappy keyboard :)04:45
Jucatoand future04:45
K`zanand this: sh: ppmquant: not found04:46
maduserwhats the printer?04:46
K`zanAnyone might know what I need to install to get these.04:46
geniiK`zan: It may be part of a larger package like imagemagick04:46
K`zanAny one - doesn't work with the LJ6 LJ4 or the brother...04:46
K`zanLet me try that, thanks genii !04:47
Jucato!info netpbm04:47
ubotunetpbm (source: netpbm-free): Graphics conversion tools. In component main, is optional. Version 2:10.0-11 (gutsy), package size 1165 kB, installed size 4108 kB04:47
JucatoK`zan: that one it seems04:47
K`zanJucato: Thank you VERY much, again :).  And appreciated as always!04:47
geniiK`zan: or what Jucato indicates :) Some googlin on it may help to narrow down exactly which04:47
Daisuke_Livei think tomorrow i'll install opengeu on here04:47
JucatoGoogle.. or this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/04:47
Jucato(handly little site)04:48
K`zanBookmarked, thankee!04:48
geniiI'm definitely having a caffeine deficiency. I just got back from visiting family where the only coffee they believe in having around is decaf instant04:48
Daisuke_Liveget this man an espresso IV, stat!04:48
K`zanNope, sigh:04:49
K`zan   sh: ppmquant: not found04:49
K`zan   sh: ppmtogif: not found04:49
Daisuke_Liveso yeah, opengeu isn't as ugly as i expected it to be04:49
Daisuke_Liveand it's pretty snappy even on the livecd04:49
geniiDaisuke_Live: What is opengeu ?04:49
Jucatogenii: formerly Geubuntu04:50
Daisuke_Liveubuntu derivative that uses a mix of enlightenment and gnome04:50
JucatoUbuntu-based E17 distro04:50
geniiAh, OK04:50
Jucatothey had to change names because of trademark policies04:50
Daisuke_LiveJucato, not pure enlightenment though04:50
geniiEnlightenment used to be nice04:50
K`zanSorry, your search gave no results04:50
JucatoK`zan: use the bottom search field, where you can choose to search for a particular file in a package04:51
geniiK`zan: What place is telling you to use some command called "ppmquant" ?04:51
Daisuke_Livemay just go to 8.04 remix04:51
JucatoDaisuke_Live: pure E17 would be purely incomplete :)04:51
Daisuke_LiveJucato, yes, yes it would04:51
Daisuke_Liveand now, i'm off to bed04:51
JucatoK`zan: what is the output of "which ppmquant"?04:51
Jucatohm.. and I'm off to lunch soonish04:51
geniiIt must be old, because netpbm at sourceforge site says it's obsolete now and only calls either pnmquant or pnmremap04:53
K`zanJucato: Printing from xfig.  Solved the problem, exported to PDF and printed that.04:53
eljefeHas anyone played with QDVDAuthor?  It doesn't seem to like my mpgs nor my dv files to make a VOB (Hardy)04:53
greegi just installed 7.10.  KDE's pager wont let me drag and drop windows from one desktop to an other.04:56
greegnever mind04:57
eljefewell, QDVDAuthor did recognize one of the  formats I threw at it, the (apparently) super-high quality m2t that KDEnlive offers, but it isn't as good as a Raw DV quality, but it works...05:02
Roby718does anybody know where to get a EO client for linux05:05
eljefeEO? what is it?05:05
Roby718Endless Online05:05
eljefewhat is it?05:05
Roby718an MMORPG05:05
ubotuStreet mapping and GPS navigation software available for Ubuntu includes !GpsDrive (GTK, raster maps, free), !Roadnav (GTK, free vector maps from Tiger and OSM, free), !GoogleEarth (Qt, proprietary vector maps, proprietary)05:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tomtom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi05:06
Roby718goto #rcompany05:25
xoqai was the guy with hostname problems earlier05:25
xoqachanging the /etc/hostname to the original fixed the problem05:26
xoqacan you not manually change /etc/hostname... or do you have to change some other file along with it?05:26
eljefeyou should also (manually) change /etc/hosts i believe05:27
eljefeand you can run "shell# hostname xoqa-kubuntu" to set it, i believe only temporarily tho05:28
tomahasamootcan kpdf be used to fill out forms--or can only the abode branded version do that?05:28
eljefefrom man hostname: "Note that  this  is  effective  only  until  the  next reboot.  Edit /etc/hostname for permanent change.05:28
eljefetomahasamoot: being an open format now, PDFs _could_ be edited by kpdf, but I don't know if kpdf has yet made that a reality.  I don't think that it has but i don't know.05:29
geniitomahasamoot: According to http://kpdf.kde.org/news.php forms support was being introduced in July 200505:30
tomahasamootgenii: thanks!  I guess that means that I have the wrong version of the form... taxes, gotta love 'em :-P05:31
geniibleh, taxes05:31
* genii runs from death and taxes!05:31
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Don_MiguelUpdater problem on Kubuntu-7.04-alternative... PASTE: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63141/05:43
SpamInaCanmy friend sent me a dmg file from his mac.... how do i extract it05:45
genii!aptfix | Don_Miguel05:46
ubotuDon_Miguel: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »05:46
SpamInaCanne one?05:47
starkrunk_Spam, I found this with Google05:47
Don_MiguelThanks, genii, I give that a try ...05:47
SpamInaCancant mount it.....05:48
geniiSpamInaCan: If it's an executable type of dmg, you can't (especially if 10.x macos series) . If it's just a regular disk image file for mac, make sure you have hsfplus and hsfutils packages installed, then you can mount it same way as manual way to look at iso files. loop mount to a dir with fstype of hsf or hsfplus05:48
starkrunk_just do a search for dmg linux05:48
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merkekewhen i hooked up my computer monitor to my laptop my linix just crashed. is their a known issue because of that? im using a laptop05:49
geniiSpamInaCan: eg: if file is named yada.dmg in /home/myname/Desktop       and you want it mounted to directory /media/tmp  then: sudo mount -t hsfplus -o loop /home/myname/Desktop/yada.img /media/tmp05:52
geniiSpamInaCan: You need of course those two packages installed, and the hsf kernel driver loaded05:52
geniibah I've reversed the letters, where I wrote hsf substitute instead hfs05:54
arturoalguien de habla hispana?06:07
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Odd-rationale!es | arturo__06:08
ubotuarturo__: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.06:08
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evilbugwould there be any side-effect if i try to install the newest graphics driver for my geforce 4 mx?06:16
tomahasamootwhere's the force/ignor deps option for apt-get?06:16
geniitomahasamoot: man apt-get should reveal all if properly read06:17
geniievilbug: Quite possibly. I'd suggest making a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf before proceeding in that direction06:18
calcmandanAccording to ubuntu weekly newsletter, 8.04 will be out in two weeks.06:18
Jucatoevilbug: other than not working?  I can't think of any other side-effect :)06:18
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calcmandanwould it be advisable to do a dist upgrade from 7.10?06:19
Jucatoevilbug: of course, depends on which latest driver you are talking about (there are 3 kinds)06:19
Jucatocalcmandan: my advise would be to wait and see if you have doubts... give it a week or so06:19
Jucato(after the release)06:19
calcmandanJucato: yeah, i generally do the two week wait after release to do any upgrade.06:20
geniicalcmandan: I'm usually conservative on upgrades and wait at least 30 days for any glaring problems to be reported first.06:20
evilbugJucato- 3 kinds?06:20
calcmandangenii: wow 30 days. for me two weeks is my norm.06:20
evilbugJucato- i've only seen 1 on the nvidia driver page.06:21
calcmandanHere's my real question.  Are the differences in QT and KDE so different that a dist-upgrade on apt would cause many problems from 7.10 -> 8.0506:21
geniicalcmandan: Since I usually upgrade it on all my boxes at once I like to feel good about it. Also there's no downgrade feature yet, so there's that to think about06:21
Jucatoevilbug: there's the latest driver, the legacy driver, and the legacy-legacy driver.06:21
Jucatoevilbug: corresponding to nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx legacy06:22
Jucatocalcmandan: um. no...06:22
Jucatoupgrading to 8.04 (not .05) won't mean you get KDE 4 if it's not installed06:22
evilbugJucato- i think we're talking about nvidia-glx-new here.06:23
calcmandanJucato: i meant 8.04. sorry.06:23
stdinyou'll get 3.5.9 though06:23
Jucatoevilbug: geforce 4 mx? no I don't think so06:23
ubotuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:23
Jucatoevilbug: the page for NVIDIA there has a list of supported cards06:23
JucatoI have a GeForce4 MX 4000 and that's considered by nvidia as legacy alread, only supported by the 96xx drivers. (nvidia-glx)06:24
evilbugi know in the past with ubuntu 6.10 and 7.04 it happened to not work after install.06:24
evilbugbut mayve i was doing something wrong.06:24
calcmandanevilbug: that's what I was thinking about.06:24
calcmandanevilbug: i read an advisory for people on edgy to not go to 7. and the same from 6.06 -> 7.06:25
evilbugone issue i'm having is when i have video full screen,there's a delay on the bottom half of the screen.06:25
evilbugcalcmandan- well this install of 7.10 was fresh.06:26
tomahasamootgenii: none of the options listed on the man page are working, it keeps saying BROKEN (but it doesn't look broken to me)06:26
calcmandanevilbug: i just installed 7.10. i'm considering just waiting for lts to be released and do a fresh install of that.06:26
tomahasamoot...and anyway, I'd like to try because I bet $20 it works06:26
calcmandani have some quarcks on this box in this current install anyway.06:26
geniitomahasamoot: What is the exact error it is giving you? If more than 3 lines use the pastebin website please.06:27
tomahasamootThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:27
tomahasamoot  googleearth: Depends: googleearth-data (= but is to be installed06:27
tomahasamootE: Broken packages06:27
calcmandanlike sound being a busy resource at bootup06:27
evilbugcalcmandan- lts will be 8.04 right?06:27
calcmandanevilbug: ummmmm. yes.06:28
evilbugcalcmandan- and you think it'll have much better driver support?06:28
calcmandanevilbug: i don't konw. My 6.06 installation was SO solid.06:28
calcmandanevilbug: I'm only now having problems becasue I ahve a new core duo processor and board. I'm now wired to my router instead of being wireless. It seemed as newer versions came out the more issues there were.06:29
geniitomahasamoot: They should have put =><dependency-version>  in the package instead of just =<package-name>06:30
genii=<dependency-name> rather06:30
evilbugcalcmandan- i don't know what to say there since i'm still not a big linux user.06:30
evilbugcalcmandan- i just want to get that video issue fixed and everything will be literally perfect.06:30
calcmandanevilbug: what card do you have?06:31
tomahasamootgenii: great, so where is the /shut-the-f*&^-up/ and install the package option?06:31
evilbuggeforce 4 mx :| one sec.06:31
calcmandani have a geforce board too.  i just used the 'install restricted drivers' option in system settings.  everything was cherry from there.06:32
evilbugcalcmandan- that's what i did also.06:33
evilbugcalcmandan- the display was better but that fullscreen video issue is still there.06:33
geniitomahasamoot: In this case there is no switch to apt-get which will override this. So to either force install the previous version with something like sudo apt-get install <app>=exactversionhere    or editi the debfile to =>version from =version in ./control file06:34
arkoi can't resize windows06:34
arkoany help?06:34
calcmandanevilbug: I'm a big linux user in a sense that I refuse to install m$06:34
calcmandanevilbug: but I'm not a big master at the machine. I'm shitty at the command line and I'm passable with everything else.06:35
calcmandanevilbug: but i'm learning.06:35
evilbugcalcmandan- all i can find out from here is NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX Integrated GPU.i used to be windows only until a year ago when i got a macbook pro.06:35
evilbugbut i have ubuntu on my pc and i'm dualbooting xp on my mac.06:35
calcmandanoh ok.  i worked for apple, so i understand the appeal.  though i'd never own a mac.06:36
eagles0513875r u guys trying to enable open gl06:36
ubotuUnless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..06:36
eagles0513875ty jucato06:36
eagles0513875are you guys trying to get open gl working06:36
calcmandani worked in the sales department and steve hired this woman from microsoft to head the sales department.06:36
evilbugcalcmandan- why not?06:36
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:37
tomahasamootgenii: how do I edit the debfile?06:38
evilbugcalcmandan- ha :) i meant why would you never own a mac?06:38
calcmandanevilbug: i like to tinker with my box. i like to build them, choose the hardware, pay less. and while mac os x is really solid, i'm very happy with linux. also, apple regails us all about how they make thier own hardware. they don't. the memory comes from anywhere they can get it.06:38
Jucatoum calcmandan, evilbug, please take the non-Kubuntu related discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic thanks06:38
evilbugcalcmandan- i see :) well i produce music,so linux isn't an alternative for me.06:39
evilbugright then...i'm gonna go.night and thanks.06:40
geniitomahasamoot: You can use Ark to extract it soewhere. Then extract from there the control.tar.gz file. Edit the ./control file there. Re tar/gz then compress again with ar compresion using Ark backinto nother deb06:41
geniibah typo central06:42
Jucatodirty dirty hack :)06:42
geniiJucato: Yes, true, but it works :)06:42
geniiJucato: I needed to do this in other cases where some dependencies had been upgraded but the main package had not been created with this-or-better version required, only this-version  kind of deal06:45
Jucatogenii: and I suspect you informed the packagers of said bug, or filed a bug report, so that it could be fixed later? :)06:46
geniiJucato: No, I just cussed a lot generally06:46
* genii runs and hides06:46
Jucatohahah :)06:46
eagles0513875thats one way to fix it06:47
* Jucato sets genii-seeking missiles on genii06:47
* eagles0513875 liking what he see how much does a missile like that cost06:47
* genii buys them all and deactivates them06:47
* eagles0513875 steals them and gives them to jucato then leaves06:48
genii(while throwing decoy genii out behind to distract the current one chasing him)06:48
* eddieftw drinks tea06:49
tomahasamootgenii: I'm not able to get the package at all, even when I use the -d option, it keeps saying broken07:02
geniitomahasamoot: Find the exact name of the dependency it wants, then d/l that deb file into /var/cache/apt/archives. Then explicitly install only that dependency version by way of: sudo apt-get install <dependency-name>=<full debfile name goes here>07:05
tomahasamootAt this point, I sick of the stupid package manager... I just get it straight from google... no more messing around w/ this brittle BS07:11
aoboHi How do I make my wireless card working?07:18
aoboI have it working on windows XP but i dont know how to install it on kubuntu07:19
eddieftwhi Jucato07:28
patoaobo: First, you must install Virtualbox, it is in the repositary, it's virtual-ose package. After installation, you must add yourself to group vboxusr. Then run Virtualbox and you can install windows on virtual machine.07:28
DarkriftXi need a very small xp install07:29
DarkriftXanyone know where to get one of those thumbdrive xp install iso's at?07:29
DarkriftXi have a (legal) copy of xp (and vista) but i need one of those super small ones that i can put in a VM07:30
patoDarkriftX: You can edit your XP image by windows apps Nlite. It's freeware a very good apps for that.07:32
DarkriftXill look into that07:33
htpc1100Hi, i following the guide on the page http://stacktrace.org/index_html/200600912lirc-imon-the-debian-way to get lirc going, but I get stuck after stopping the deamons, can someone help me please?08:04
htpc1100I tried @ the #lirc channel first, but noone answered there, @ the debian channel I got a sermon about not writing "plz" instead of please08:06
nonewmsgsyou did plz instead of please?08:07
nonewmsgsi have looked at the webpage and still am unaware of what this is08:08
htpc1100yeah, I know. It was a biggie08:09
htpc1100but anyway, can someone help me, I just need to know what my "YourRemotesLIRCKernelModule" is, or how I would be able to find that out08:11
nonewmsgswhat device isn't working http://pastebin.com/d397e384708:12
xpkillermy keyboard drop on my hdd now it wont show up on xp,but on linux im seing my fils isnt there a way to get them off?08:12
xpkillermy keyboard drop on my hdd now it wont show up on xp,but on linux im seing my files.isnt there a way to get them off?08:13
nonewmsgsis that a joke or are you serious08:13
MrDoughey, i have a ubuntu issue, but was refered here by a guy in #ubuntu08:14
htpc1100I think they were serious @ least they said they would not answer me untill I spelled it out08:14
MrDougcan u guys help?08:14
nonewmsgs<joke<the best way to get files off a hard drive is with a delete command08:14
nonewmsgswhat you want to do is use the dd command08:15
MrDougbasicly when im installing and press "install ubuntu", after the loading bar fills my monitor says "No signal" and dies08:15
xpkillernonewmsgs: lol no i want to copy them off the corupt hdd and back up everything08:15
nonewmsgsdd /windowsdrive /home/yourname/backup.iso08:15
nonewmsgsdd makes an iso from a drive08:16
MrDougive tried using a dif resolution, and installing in safe graphics mode no luck08:16
xpkillernonewmsgs: wat?08:16
nonewmsgsit might require sudo08:16
nonewmsgsthe command is called "dd"08:16
nonewmsgsdisk drive?08:16
MrDougim using an ATI X1300 graphics card08:16
xpkillertell me the corect way to type it in the terminal08:16
nonewmsgswhat is your windows drive mountd as08:17
xpkillernonewmsgs: my hdd is in fat 3208:17
nonewmsgsit doesnt matter we're making an exact copy08:17
xpkilleri have no idea wat dev it mounted on that why i hate ubuntu.i couldnt run my kubuntu so im on ubuntu08:17
nonewmsgstype in command "mount"08:18
xpkillernonewmsgs: i cant copy if i dont know where are my hdd are mounted08:18
nonewmsgsMrDoug: have you tried the alternat cd08:18
MrDougno, whats the difrence08:19
nonewmsgsxpkiller: command mount tells you how things are mounted08:19
xpkillernonewmsgs: my hdd is mounted allready08:19
nonewmsgsMrDoug:  it installs without being a livecd and might help you?08:19
MrDougalright, can i get that off the ubuntu site as well?08:19
nonewmsgsxpkiller: if you do not tell me how it is mounted i cannot tell you the exact command to back it up08:19
nonewmsgsyes MrDoug08:20
htpc1100ok, ty anyway, gonna look around on other channels... bye08:20
MrDougexcelent ill give it a try thnx :)08:20
nonewmsgsbut despite how much i love ubuntu, if this doesn't work, perhaps you might want another distro08:20
xpkillernonewmsgs: aa i just turn on my external hdd and its on the desktop08:20
nonewmsgssometimes hardware and OSes don't get along08:20
MrDougo btw whats the diffrence bettween GNOME and KDE08:20
xpkillergnome crap kde simple to use08:21
nonewmsgskde has a little start menu with a K on te bottom and gnome has lits of commands on the top08:21
MrDouglol i see, umm, which is better for a newbie08:21
MrDougfor learnign08:21
nonewmsgsMrDoug: they are both very good and you can have both installed08:22
nonewmsgsif you are a windows power user you might prefer L08:22
nonewmsgsxpkiller: if you do not give me the feedback from command mount i cannot help you08:22
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MrDoughmm, yes, i am so that might be better08:22
nonewmsgsit is more "windows-like"08:23
MrDougall get kubuntu then08:23
nonewmsgssounds good08:23
MrDougthank you08:23
xpkillernonewmsgs: http://pastebin.com/m41682eef08:23
xpkillerim on ubuntu cause my feisty dvd is damage an i download 4 different kubuntu and none was compatible with my pc08:25
nonewmsgsxpkiller: type in ls /media/sda1 to double check this is the drive you want backed up08:25
xpkillernonewmsgs:  No such file or directory08:26
nonewmsgsoh i am sorry it's 326am here and im a lil loopy08:26
nonewmsgsls /media/SWISNIFE108:27
xpkillernonewmsgs: yes its that drive i want back up08:27
nonewmsgssudo dd /media/SWISNIFE1 /backup.iso08:28
nonewmsgsnow this will take a while but if you open the folder you can see it's size growing08:28
xpkillernonewmsgs: but its an 250gig hdd i cant back it up to my pc.i have another external hdd conected 25008:29
xpkillernonewmsgs: how do i back it up to the other one?08:30
nonewmsgsso you want a copy08:30
xpkilleryes cause the the main one is a little corrupt08:30
nonewmsgslte me think for a minute08:31
Fritzelok what would cause X to startup with the nv driver, but not the nvidia driver, besides the driver being bad since I'm sure someone else here is using the latest driver08:31
nonewmsgsopen qtparted08:32
nonewmsgshaving an ancient nvidia card?08:32
Fritzel7900 GS 512MB should be well suited08:32
nonewmsgsyou with the xp in front open qtparted08:32
nonewmsgswell suited indeed08:32
DOOM_NXgood morning :)08:33
nonewmsgsmine only has 25608:33
nonewmsgsmorning doom08:33
Fritzelcan you think of anything else that would cause the issue? I simply change nvidia to nv  in xorg.conf and it starts08:33
xpkillernonewmsgs: type open qtparted in the terminal?08:33
nonewmsgsi am not sure Fritzel.  i am having issues because i have 2 7900s sli08:33
nonewmsgssudo qtparted08:34
Fritzeldoes xorg have an official channel here?08:34
xpkillernonewmsgs:  command not found08:34
nonewmsgsoh that's right you aren't using kde08:35
xpkillercrap im very hangry08:35
nonewmsgssudo gparted08:35
nonewmsgsor might be just gpart08:35
nonewmsgsmy stomach is killing me08:36
xpkillerits none of them08:36
nonewmsgssudo apt-get install gpart08:37
nonewmsgsi typed them both and they both came up qtparted and gpart08:37
nonewmsgsFritzel: i'm not real sure but probably?08:37
Fritzelnonewmsgs: I found it they're all asleep I think ><08:38
nonewmsgsFritzel: you might also want to post on the forums, since this is rather late (i think more irc-ers are american)08:38
Fritzelno I'd be more likely to reinstall first08:38
FritzelI'll just keep watching the channel and pushing things around here08:39
nonewmsgsgood luck mate08:39
Fritzelthank you08:39
xpkillernonewmsgs: when u told me sudo dd /media/SWISNIFE1 /backup.iso the iso will be save where?08:39
xpkillernonewmsgs: ok its install gparted08:39
nonewmsgsin your root directory but that'll save it as an iso08:40
nonewmsgswhich might be able to be mounted as  drive in windows with alcohol08:40
xpkilleron the pc u mean?08:40
nonewmsgsnow with gparted you can probably do a full parition copy08:41
nonewmsgsgpart whatever08:41
xpkillerSince GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction only root may run it.08:41
xpkillerhow can i run it?08:41
nonewmsgswith sudo?08:41
Fritzelhmm kernel modules are required for nvidia restricted drivers correct?08:42
nonewmsgsFritzel: you might want to consider envy?08:42
nonewmsgssince envy deals with the latest drivers but some say it's dangerous08:42
ubotuenvy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »08:42
FritzelI'm not exactly stable now08:43
Fritzelso I might as well08:43
nonewmsgsit *seems to* put the nvidia driver in the kernal or something like that08:43
nonewmsgsIANAE (i am not an expert)08:43
FritzelI understand08:44
Fritzelworst case is I do a format and loose out on what? 10 minutes ^^08:44
xpkillernonewmsgs: gparted  is seeing my hdd as unallocated08:44
nonewmsgswhich one08:44
nonewmsgsok fine close gparted08:46
nonewmsgswe'll use cp -a08:47
nonewmsgssudo cp -a /olddrive /newdrive08:47
* nonewmsgs tiredness is surpassing stomach ache and may well get some sleep tonight08:47
xpkillernonewmsgs: change the name oldrive....08:48
nonewmsgsthat knife thing.  im very tired08:48
nonewmsgsi'm not trying to be an ass08:49
nonewmsgsbut i'm about to go to bed08:49
xpkillerwait 10 more minuts08:49
nonewmsgsi know that today im going to work like a 10 hour day08:50
nonewmsgsxpkiller: helping you is the reason i am still up08:50
nonewmsgsi won't leave you in a crucial moment08:50
xpkillernonewmsgs: i have to work to and its 4 in the morning08:50
nonewmsgsme too "D08:50
nonewmsgsdo you know the names of both drives08:51
xpkillersudo fdisk -l dont show them08:51
nonewmsgsold = /media/SWISNIFE108:51
FritzelI'm back to the driver that was giving me trouble but at least I'm accelerated again, nonewmsgs thanks for the help ^^08:52
nonewmsgsgood deal08:52
xpkillernonewmsgs: how do i see all hdd conected to the pc?mount?08:53
nonewmsgsnew = /proc/bus/usb08:53
nonewmsgssudo cp -a /media/SWISNIFE1 /proc/bus/usb08:53
nonewmsgsi think08:54
xpkillerits not usbdisk?08:54
nonewmsgstry that command please and if not we'll go from there08:54
nonewmsgsit looks like a usb disk08:54
xpkillerterminal going crazy with errors08:55
nonewmsgswhat kind of errors08:56
xpkillernonewmsgs: http://pastebin.com/m14d0484d08:58
nonewmsgsit's having trouble reading the drive08:58
xpkilleryea my keyboard drop on it when i was sleepin08:59
xpkillern it was making noise08:59
xpkillerbut the noise is no more08:59
nonewmsgsunfortunatly this is beyond where i can help08:59
nonewmsgsit might be toast or require expensive equpiment09:00
xpkiller:( i hate mecanacal hdd >_<09:00
nonewmsgsbut if it can't read it, it can't back it up09:00
xpkillerbut linux seing the folders n all i was able to extrac txt from the root of it09:01
ocshi. i can't disable eth2: tried with gui, ifconfig eth2 down and ifdown eth2 .... what should i do?09:01
nonewmsgsocs i can't really help because i am going to bed but since no one else is here i will lead you in the right direction09:02
nonewmsgslook up blacklist hardware09:02
nonewmsgs(and i really hate to just say google it) :(09:02
xpkillergoogle is our best frind09:02
nonewmsgsgoodnight friends and good luck with your problems and hopefully someone greater than i can solve them with a single command09:03
ocsok nonewmsgs09:03
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xpkillernonewmsgs: i did sudo dd /media/SWISNIFE1 /backup.iso i tell me  unrecognized operand `/media/SWISNIFE1'09:04
maxthere are some software that advise me when a new mail is arrived in my mailbox but do not download that mail... I need an advise and after this I use my browser to read a mail....09:05
tomahasamootevery time I try to switch VT's the loggin crashes, this happens with the hot key (ctrl+alt+FX) and with the "switch user" on the K-menu09:10
tomahasamoota few seconds after switching it switches back, showing the nVidia banner, then KDM09:11
ocshi. i can't disable eth2: tried with gui, ifconfig eth2 down and ifdown eth2 .... what should i do?09:11
tomahasamoota few seconds after switching it switches back, showing the nVidia banner, then KDM09:11
The_ManU_212what does the following mean?09:17
The_ManU_212debconf: apt-extracttemplates schlug fehl: Bad file descriptor(09:17
patoocs: Try command ifconfig eth2 down with sudo, if u didn't write there and write here, if there any error.09:18
ocspato: sudo is the only way to exec the command09:18
The_ManU_212does hardy use kde 4?09:19
bentob0xI just had kubuntu starting fully but not being able to log onto the internet (http, irc, skype, msn etc), I simply rebooted and it worked.  I want to know what happened, where can I find the logs and what am I looking for exactly?09:22
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peyotllsalut tout l'monde09:31
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:32
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:32
ubotuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox09:37
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eagles0513875how do i check what version of a program i have on my machine09:43
ubotuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell09:44
Jucatoeagles0513875: only applies for getting the Ubuntu version09:44
Jucatoyou can either use the program's Help menu -> About dialog or check with the package manager which version is installed09:44
h4ck3yi'm newbie in linux maybe someone can help me09:44
SlimeyPeteh4ck3y: just ask your question and if anyone can help, they will :)09:45
Jucatoapt-cache policy <package_name> or apt-cache madison or apt-cache show to get the full details09:45
Jucatoof course, you have to stay long enough to actually ask the question09:45
Jucatoand long enough to be answered :)09:45
jerknextdoor_i've got an external usb drive that i cant get to mount in kubuntu.  it has mounted befoe but it's not now09:59
jimatHi all, I have just losing my kubuntu panel. I have logout and relogin, and even restart. It is still disappear. Try a search in Ubuntu forums but I cant see a thread on the topic. I can still use my desktop tho, right click and run commands. How do I make the pannel appear again?10:01
eagles0513875jimat: u using kde410:01
jimatno, kubuntu 3.5 I think10:02
Jucatojimat: check if "kicker" (the KDE panel) is running. press Ctrl+Esc and search for the kicker process in the list10:02
eagles0513875interesting cuz that happened to me on kde4 yesterday10:02
* Jucato will wait10:02
ubotuThe packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports10:02
jimateagles0513875: yes kicker is running10:03
Jucatojimat: ok. press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol", go to Desktop -> Panels -> Hiding tab. make sure that Hide automatically is not chosen10:03
jimatJucato: ok, it appears now. Well, I actually like it to autohide. Thanks very much all10:05
Jucatono problem10:05
eagles0513875Jucato: what are the essential pking pkgs one needs10:05
Jucatoeagles0513875: I think the packaging guide (in wiki.ubuntu.com) basically has everything covered10:06
JucatoI'm not good at packaging, so I'm the last person you should ask :)10:06
Jucatotry #ubuntu-motu for guidance10:07
eagles0513875im in dev channel ill try in there10:07
* emilsedgh hopes to see Jucato's contribution to KDE apps soon10:07
Jucatoemilsedgh: well... :)10:07
* Jucato is bidding his time :P10:08
eagles0513875lol im starting and i know less the u Jucato10:08
emilsedghJucato: come on, you finished your cpp book, im waiting to see a blog post about 'now im a $KApplication developer'10:09
Jucatoemilsedgh: well, I'm a 1/64 konvi ninja (if you've seen my last post) :P10:10
Jucatobut basically still lost as to where and how to start... or on what app (konvi is a bit daunting if you don't know IRC innards)10:10
jerknextdoor_jucato: if you don't know irc innards it's all daunting.  haha.10:11
emilsedghJucato: so i should kill you! because there is not irc client for kde4 yet and im loading whole kde3 libraries for kopete!10:11
Jucato(you ain't see nothing yet :P)10:11
eagles0513875Jucato: if u need a tester im more then willing to help but right now im kinda pressed for time on a bug im working on10:11
Jucatoemilsedgh: hm.. if you're loading whole kde3 libraries for Kopete anyway, why not use Konvi in KDE 4? :D10:12
Jucatoeagles0513875: nah. nothing to test. you do your thing first :)10:12
emilsedghJucato: because its not ported afaik, is it? if yes im gonna build it NOW10:12
Jucatoemilsedgh: I mean, you're loading kde3 libs to use Kopete (KDE 3) in KDE 4 right?10:12
Jucatoso what's the problem with using Konvi (KDE 3) in KDE 4?10:13
Jucatosince you have kde3 libs already loaded10:13
eagles0513875lol this might be related to ur issue10:13
emilsedghJucato: the problem is that i prefer kopete, probably because Chat Style support10:13
eagles0513875it was reported by apachelogger10:13
Jucatoer... eagles0513875, we're talking about Konvi not being ported to KDE 4 yet10:14
eagles0513875speaking of kopete for kde4 that needs to be tweaked to where it automatically takes u online10:14
eagles0513875ahh i gotcha10:14
Jucatoemilsedgh: in that case... why aren't you using Kopete 0.55+ (KDE 4) for IRC too? :D10:14
* Jucato doesn't get "Chat Style support" though10:14
eagles0513875what laguage is konvi written in10:14
emilsedghJucato: irc protocol is not ported on kde4 yet.svn commit logs shows someone is working on it, but thats slow and not even compilable10:15
Jucatoemilsedgh: anyway, not to get your hopes up, but Konvi 1.1 is nearing release. and once that's out of the door, the team will start porting10:15
eagles0513875for port to kde4 what would have to change10:15
Jucatoeagles0513875: *a lot*10:15
jussio1there is a kde4 irc client10:15
Jucatoand they plan on doing a rewrite because much of the old code is.. wel... old...10:15
emilsedghjussio1: what?!10:15
eagles0513875im going to work on my c++ knowledge this summer since its vry similar to java10:15
emilsedghJucato: please, speed up guys ;)10:16
Jucatoif you mean quassel, it  isn't really KDE (yet)10:16
jussio1emilsedgh: http://quassel-irc.org/10:16
emilsedghjussio1: yeah thats Qt10:16
emilsedghi should get it10:16
jussio1emilsedgh: quassel rocks my world10:16
Jucatokonvi + miau rocks mine :)10:16
* emilsedgh is going to get quassel10:16
Jucatono need for server-client setup10:16
Jucatoemilsedgh: aside from what you call "Chat Style support", I don't understand why not just run Konvi in KDE 4... it's not like Konvi 2.x will have that Chat Style magically once it's ported10:17
jerknextdoor_sorry to ask again.  but i'm no sure i was connected before.  but can anyone help with an external that wont mount?10:17
Jucato(again, not knowing what that Chat Style is...)10:17
jussio1emilsedgh: see you in #quassel :)10:18
emilsedghJucato: http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=24x26&PHPSESSID=4411833c088eba3d0cddc9eef7dd12e910:18
emilsedghjussio1: im checking out its trunk/ ;)10:19
jussio1emilsedgh: I have a bleeding edge quassel in my ppa, (hardy only)10:19
Jucatoemilsedgh: ah well, don't hold our breath for Konvi 2.x... I doubt they'll implement something like that10:19
emilsedghjussio1: no, im a 'always on trunk' guy10:19
Jucatothey might implement some theming, but dunno...10:19
emilsedghJucato: i dont care, i just want something on kde4! (and not Qt :D)10:19
emilsedghJucato: just port! nothing else matters atm =))10:20
JucatoKDE *is* Qt!10:20
emilsedgh(KDE is not Qt)10:21
Jucatofine. KDE is Qt extended :D10:22
emilsedghoh no! jussio1, quassel has whole oxygen icons ?10:23
Jucatoemilsedgh: although by C++ inheritance I'm still correct :P10:23
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* jussio1 pokes and prods emilsedgh into #quassel10:32
* jpatrick just prods jussio1 10:33
* Jucato puts a Detour --> Konversation sign10:33
Jucatoright... offtopic ops :P10:33
* emilsedgh is building quassel10:33
* jpatrick is amazed he has practically no spam mail since he changed his @kubuntu.org email10:34
jerknextdoor_anyone install gimp2.5 yet?10:46
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spirooCould someone help me with compiling. I got errors all the time of unincluded files and etc. It never get thrue that.11:18
* laga_ waves11:18
spirooI will paste the last segment which I think is "weird" :P11:18
eagles0513875spiroo: there are 3 easy steps to compiling11:21
eagles0513875let me get u something from google11:22
spirooThank you :)11:22
eagles0513875spiroo: u have the source code right11:22
spiroouhm I guess from the svn ;) I am quite new on this, just for your knowledge ;)11:23
eagles0513875spiroo: lol ok there r three steps the11:23
eagles0513875u have to make sure u have unzipped the file if its zipped11:24
eagles05138752ndly run these 3 commands once u get into the folder that u unzipped11:24
eagles0513875 tar xvzf package.tar.gz (or tar xvjf package.tar.bz2)11:24
eagles0513875# cd package11:24
eagles0513875# ./configure11:24
eagles0513875# make11:24
eagles0513875# make install11:24
eagles0513875replace the word package with the name of the program in question11:24
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eagles0513875and that should install it for ya11:24
spirooYes, but that is not the problem. The problem is in the source code.11:25
eagles0513875whats the package11:25
spirooI get error while I am compiling11:25
eagles0513875whats the error11:26
spirooA am doing this: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE411:26
spirooerrors: http://pastebin.org/2963411:26
eagles0513875spiroo: u know kde4 pkgs r in the repositories btw11:26
eagles0513875spiroo: did u try the next step the make install step11:27
spirooYes I am making the install ;)11:27
eagles0513875is it working11:27
spirooNot all the way as you can see in the pastebin source code11:28
spirooI am not sure, but this could be problem:11:29
spiroo-- Soprano version 2.0.0 is too old. Please install 2.0.97 or newer11:29
spiroo-- Create macro to display info at the end of install11:29
spirooNot sure how I do that though, because I cannot find any later version11:29
crazy_busnot sure if this is the place to ask.  But does kubuntu 8.04 with kde3 have the new compiz select menu and the kde4 version have something completely different?11:29
eagles0513875crazy_bus: u can run compiz on both11:29
jerknextdoorwhat's the best way to help out the ubuntu/kubunu community if you can't code?  i hang out in the irc channels and answer what i can but it's only noob questions that i can help with.11:30
eagles0513875jerknextdoor: test stuff and report bugs11:30
eagles0513875spiroo: recommend upgrading soprano11:30
crazy_buseagles0513875: I know but was wondering about this statement "For the first time ever, Kubuntu 8.04 users, using KDE 3.5.9, will have the ability to easily enable Compiz desktop effects. Choose from 4 levels of desktop effects"11:30
eagles0513875u can download the compiz-fusion pkg and the ccsm which allows u to tweak compiz and emerald desktop manager and u can customize it like crazy11:31
jerknextdooreagles: thanks man, i do that as much as i can.  i just want to help more.  not just with ubuntu but with all of the *nix's.  i should probably just start learning to code11:31
spirooeagles: Yes, but I cannot found any higher version of Soprano11:31
eagles0513875spiroo: leave it installing11:31
eagles0513875and if it doesnt work report a bug on kde11:32
eagles0513875to the kde site on kubuntu11:32
matt01hi is there a kde4 chat room?11:33
jussi01matt01: also, #kubuntu-kde411:40
crazy_busthanks for the answer eagles0513875.  Sorry about not answering I was away for a few minutes11:41
neville_What command can I use to start an xserver with resolution of 320x240? Trying to change it during operation isn't terribly practical11:42
JasonWardis there a channel which discusses assembly language on freenode.net?11:47
maxI need to disable the "shell to rs232" in my linux kubunto 7.1 ... what is the name of the driver to deinstall?12:15
plex_hi everybody. i'm totally new to linux. can anybody help me to get xkb layout changes work with ctrl+alt?12:18
spirooThere is problem with plasma while downlaoding12:18
eagles0513875plex_: u might actually like my site im working on12:19
spirooeagles: Yes now it is working. Someone had made changes in the trunk. I forgot to update svn with checkout :D12:22
eagles0513875plex_: its still a work in progress but im hoping to have a number of simplified how to's for people whor new to linux such as urself12:23
eagles0513875spiroo: lol that happens to the best of us12:23
spirooeagles: okey :D I forgot that the trunk always is in development. Quite cool I must say.12:24
eagles0513875spiroo: lol i would try it out but i have quite alot on my plate atm12:27
eagles0513875learning how to fix bugs pkg lol exams now in may12:27
eagles0513875linux cert exam sometime in may12:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about utc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:28
spirooeagles: Understandable :)12:29
maxI need to disable the "shell via rs232" in my linux kubunto 7.1 ... what is the name of the driver to disinstall?12:32
spirooeagles: What is a linux cert exam exactly?12:32
eagles0513875spiroo: google lpi12:33
eagles0513875basically u learn how to set up stuf fin linux there r 4 courses for it total12:33
eagles0513875im doing the first one12:33
spiroookay, will do12:34
spirooNice :)12:34
spirooThe website for lpi wasnt so nice :D12:34
eagles0513875its worth doing12:35
eagles0513875i in particular where i am in europe i would like to create some more competition by setting up my own isp12:36
eagles0513875probably all linux based12:36
spiroocool :)12:36
eagles0513875lol im in love with kubuntu i cant use anything else12:36
spiroohehe, same here :) I cannot go back to gnome/ubuntu :D And Windows sucks. Only reason is games and Photoshop for WIndows.12:40
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:41
kreggzyeah why do major distros go with Gnome by default..12:41
jerknextdoorkreggz: not all of them do.  several go with kde.12:41
jerknextdoorkreggz:  mandrivia and opensuse are kde12:42
osh_kreggz: and pclinuxos afaik12:42
kreggzsuse is gnome?12:42
jussio1Please head over to #kubuntu-offtopic with this discussion. thanks :)12:42
eagles0513875kreggz: u in offtopic12:43
jussio1Hrm, How does one make kmail show emails in the full width of the reader?12:44
eagles0513875jussio1: wish i knew lol i use evolution12:44
ralphhallo zusammen! bin seit einiger zeit dabei mit kde4 anzufreunden. das einzige wo es probleme gibt ist die schriftgrösse. hat jemand eine ahnung was ich da machen kann? danke schon mal12:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde-de - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:47
jussio1!de | ralph12:47
uboturalph: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:47
osh_jussio1: Ah, that's the stuff... ;-)12:47
eagles0513875is there a maltese channel lol12:49
osh_eagles0513875: Is there a maltese language? I didn't know that. I thought that english and italian were the languages spoken there.12:54
eagles0513875osh_: maltese as well12:55
eagles0513875osh_: come in offtopic12:55
spirooHow do I get latest soprano version?12:58
spiroogah, I must wait while they are editin in source code in the trunk :D12:59
eagles0513875spiroo: lol13:00
eagles0513875osh_: u coming to offtopic channel13:00
osh_eagles0513875: yeah13:01
spirooWhere do I find WebKit for Soprano?13:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about webkit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about soprano - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi13:03
eagles0513875spiroo: try www.google.com/linux13:03
eagles0513875searches all linux related sites13:04
spirooI would like the Soprano 2.0.3, but I cannot found it :P Thanks for that, I thought google would search on linux :D13:05
spirooHow do I unzip a tar.bz2?13:13
spirooGot this error:13:13
spiroogzip: stdin: not in gzip format13:13
spirootar: Child returned status 113:13
Picitar xjvf file.tar.bz213:13
spiroothanks, I never understand the difference between xjfvm and everyone :D13:15
spirooWhen I do "make install", what exaclty happens then?13:18
jussio1it copies the made files to the right places...13:19
osh_spiroo: for a full explanation read the makefile. but in general it'll compile and move the files the required location. =)13:19
spirooosh_ okay tanks :) Required location, means?13:19
osh_spiroo: the location that's entered into the makefile (say /usr/bin as an example)13:20
osh_spiroo: got to go. any other question?13:21
spirooNot for the moment I guess :)13:22
osh_spiroo: good luck then. =)13:22
JasonWardwhat is a good IRC client to use on windows?13:33
SlimeyPetebest to ask in ##windows13:33
JasonWardits a pity konversation doesn't work on win13:33
RainMakesMeWetJasonWard: xchat works on windows13:35
JasonWardcool. thanks13:36
spirooDamn it, whos working on Plasma Analog Clock in the KDE trunk?13:36
[Kosh]can some of friends help me with an adm 64 issue??13:56
jussio1!ask| [Kosh]13:57
ubotu[Kosh]: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)13:57
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:57
wesleywhere is the config file of adept ?13:59
[Kosh]I recently upgrade my hardware to AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+, what I do, upgrade to 64?13:59
SlimeyPeteyou don't have to.13:59
SlimeyPetethe 32-bit version of Kubuntu will work fine.13:59
spiroo_I will never be able to test Amarok2 if development team can stop editing in trunk. Could someone say that they should stop for a moment xD14:14
p0mppuhi everyone14:16
Mactaylorhow do i get Kweather to display firenhieght?14:16
p0mppuhow would I go about installing (or is it possible?) KDE 4.0 onto an Ubuntu machine so that the Gnome and KDE menus would "stay separate", so the two desktops wouldn't interfere with each other by any means?14:17
p0mppuso that I don't get KDE apps to the Gnome menu and vice versa14:17
ranceI "think" ubuntu has setup the packages to get their respective menus from the *same* location, so that the menus can mix for those who want them to - personally, I *like* this14:19
RainMakesMeWetMactaylor, in the kde control center, there are regional settings that need to be set to Imperial14:19
ranceall the packages are then configured to "drop" their shortcuts into that common location by default.  You can switch it out, but there will be a LOT of maintenance to keep them seperate14:20
neville_Is there a way to determine what chip/chipset/whatever you call it a connected USB device uses?14:21
p0mppurance, yeah I guess that's how it works..at least last time I installed KDE aside Gnome I got all the apps into both menus, turning them mostly unusable...three text editors, a couple of media players, cd-writing apps, internet browsers..and since I don't generally run GTK apps (or many at least) on KDE nor QT apps on Gnome, it's a mess14:21
p0mppuI hoped there was a setting or a keyword you could put to the shortcuts to have them appear only on either menu14:21
rancenot to my knowlege p0mppu, but then I am a kde user with some gtk,gnome apps thrown in.  so I LIKE having all that stuff in the same menu list14:23
RainMakesMeWetp0mppu: you could just edit the menu I suppose.14:23
p0mppubut I'd have to do that every time I add something14:23
p0mppuand for all users14:23
rancemaybe not for all users14:23
p0mppubut wouldn't it pick all the shortcuts for every user?14:24
RainMakesMeWetp0mppu: google it, I know there are ways of adding a gnome menu entry to sort them out14:24
ranceIf I remember right the menus have a "default" location for all users, and then "per-user" overrides, you should be able to edit the "defaults" and then all users would have the same base to start with, of course they are all free to edit their own menus14:25
spiroo_57% compiled :P14:27
spiroo_Almost there ...14:27
eagles0513875spiroo_: what r the specs on ur machine14:28
RainMakesMeWetp0mppu: give those a look14:28
spiroo_eagles: 3 GHz HT, 4 GB RAM, 256 Graphic card14:29
p0mppuRainMakesMeWet, thanks a lot - looks like that's what I was searching14:29
spiroo_eagles: Will upgrade my CPU soon though to an Dual Core E8400 ;)14:30
p0mppuI'll just take a look at the script before doing anything else..14:30
spiroo_There is no problem with my PC with other words. And I have 100 Mbit/s too ;)14:32
kblinhi folks14:33
p0mppuwell let's give it a try..thanks again, rance and RainMakesMeWet14:34
ActionParsniphey all14:35
ActionParsnipI have a small q about pidgin14:35
ActionParsniphow can I make the text entry box for IMs deeper?14:35
spiroo_What do you mean with deeper?14:36
ActionParsnipspiroo_: end lower down the page,14:37
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spirooAh okay, hmm seems that is not possible in the new version. You could do it before, that is for sure ,)14:38
SlimeyPeteyeah, it seems to have gotten disabled somehow14:38
ActionParsnipadjust the size of the text area using a sizing control14:38
RainMakesMeWetActionParsnip: don't you drag it? If not, I thought there was a way to make it dynnmic in the prefs14:38
ActionParsnipnever saw that14:40
ActionParsnipit wont drag :(14:40
Cannonhey guys, I am trying to add a new user via KDE Control Module ... when I enter admin password it doesn't allow me to change anything ... the modify, new, delete are still greyed out ... any ideas?14:48
kazio_polski irc ubuntu ?14:49
NibiruETAnyone here using Kopete? Need some info pls.14:49
ranceI use kopete14:50
Jucato!pl | kazio_14:51
ubotukazio_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl14:51
JucatoNibiruET: ask your real question, then you'll find out14:51
NibiruETOk how do I set incoming text font size to be the same as font size I use in chat screens. Using either kopte or Psi themes14:51
NibiruETrance: using v
Cannonhey guys, I am trying to add a new user via KDE Control Module ... when I enter admin password it doesn't allow me to change anything ... the modify, new, delete are still greyed out ... any ideas?14:53
ubotuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo14:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about useradd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:54
sivajii installed xp after ubuntu installation ,then i was not able to boot ubuntu .showhow i restored grub now i cant boot xp14:55
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto14:55
sivaji  Jucato i did everything as given in that page still its not working   my menu.list is  @ http://pastebin.com/f65be050d15:00
vordme34hello can anyone help me..adept crashed once and now it always states that another process is using the packaging dbase..dunno what to do?15:02
Pici!aptfix | vordme3415:02
ubotuvordme34: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:02
Jucatosivaji: obviously the root line for Windows XP is wrong, since it's the same one for Ubuntu15:02
spiroo68% and a new error in code. Work faster development team :)15:02
Jucatosivaji: what partition is Windows in?15:03
sivajiJucato /dev/hdb315:03
Jucatosivaji: then root (hd0,0) should be root (hd1,2)15:03
Jucatoin the Windows XP section15:04
sivajiJucato ok but do you say that root (hd0,0) should be root (hd1,2)15:04
sivajihow /dev/hdb3 => hd1,215:05
JucatoGRUB uses a different numbering system. hda = hd0, hdb = hd115:05
Jucatohda1 = hd0,0, hda2 = hd0,1, hdb1 = hd1,0, hdb2 = hd1,1; hdb3 = hd1,215:06
sivajiho thanks Jucato :D15:06
spiroo73% :D15:07
sivajispiroo what are you trying to say ?15:07
spiroosivaji: That it takes awhile to compile with a fulltime working development team :D15:08
AzzcoI'm trying to set up a samba network, I remember that there was a kcontrol module for samba configuration before but I can't find it, what package do I need to install?15:09
spiroosmbclient i guess15:09
spirooDepends which distro also15:10
ranceAzzco: I forget the name of that also, buts it part of knoppix15:10
AzzcoI'm in #kubuntu right? o.O15:10
ranceright: I figured if you couldnt find the program name any other way, you can fireup a knoppix 5.x cd and look for it there15:12
AzzcoIt wasn't smbclient it seems =( wasn't this installed by default before?15:12
ranceat least youd know what you were looking for15:12
AzzcoOh okay thanks for the tip rance (However my CD drives doesn't like me anymore and graphical liveCDs is the same)15:12
ranceAzzco: smbclient is the backend, are you looking for the gui frontend to manage it?  LinNeighborhood15:13
ranceI think was its name15:13
Azzcoyes I was looking for the frontend and I think that I found it "kdenetwork-filesharing" =)15:14
edgyheeeeeeeeeelp! I have no kicker menu in kubuntu hardy and the background is blank. This happens today suddenly, how can I fix, please?15:24
tsb_I suppose 8.04 is safe enough to upgrade to now?15:26
kblinhi folks, I'm trying to install virt-manager on kubuntu 7.10, but it's not installable15:27
ShawnRiskhow are you installing this?15:28
kblinsudo aptitude install virt-manager15:29
Ukonpoikaedgy, try pressing alt+F2 and entering the commend: "kicker"15:29
kblingives me: virt-manager: Depends: python-virtinst which is a virtual package15:29
ShawnRiskdo you have python-virtinst installed?15:30
edgyUkonpoika: wow! that really make kicker available now, what about the desktop? It's now blank and right-clicking show nothing15:30
spirooIs it hard to program your own OS on your own?15:31
kblinShawnRisk: tried: No candidate version found for python-virtinst15:31
Jucatoedgy: kicker really shouldn't be there, since kicker is for KDE 3 and KDE 4 uses something different15:31
edgyUkonpoika: I also got the kde3 kicker not the kde4 one15:31
Jucato(see my note about Kicker...)15:31
edgyJucato: exactly, I got the kde3 version, what do they call it now?15:31
Ukonpoikaedgy, oh, sorry. You should be asking somewhere else about kde4 problems.15:32
JucatoPlasma (both desktop and panel) and #kubuntu-kde4 please15:32
ShawnRiskkblin: maybe you need to install that as what you are installing is depend on that15:32
edgyJucato: I asked in kubuntu-kde4 but seems no one there ;)15:33
spirooI got a weird thing. Now in my menu top bar in every window. I got white-yellow text instead of blackgrey as it should be.15:33
kblinShawnRisk: it's not installable15:33
Jucatoedgy: patience... or you can read the Emergency FAQ linked to in the topic of #kde for the "How to get my panel back"15:33
ShawnRiskkblin: give me a second15:35
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs15:38
ShawnRiskkblin: maybe you need to install virtinst first15:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats15:38
xoqai've a few problems, after selecting no bouncing curso in launch feedback AND after selecting and applying a theme using kde theme manager, the settings aren't applied15:39
PendetaWhat kernel should be used with the Intel Core 2 Duo processor?15:39
ShawnRiskkblin: I figured that out by looking here: http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html and searching for python-virtinst15:39
Xbehavewhats the best way to see if my microphone is working? i cant find any recording programs in kubuntu15:40
XbehavePendeta: is it 32 or 64 bit?15:41
Daisuke_Livei do believe that all core 2 duos are, in fact, 64 bit processors15:42
PendetaXbehave, I don't know.15:42
PendetaIt is fast.15:43
JucatoDaisuke_Live: hm.. no15:43
Jucatooh wait, core 2 duo heheh15:43
ShawnRiskkblin: farer?15:43
Daisuke_LiveThe Core 2 brand refers to a range of Intel's consumer 64-bit dual-core and 2x2 MCM quad-core CPUs with the x86-64 instruction set, based on the Intel Core microarchitecture, derived from the 32-bit dual-core Yonah laptop processor.15:43
* Jucato looks it up15:43
Jucatoah yeah15:44
Jucatocore *2* duo  = dual 64 bit15:44
Daisuke_Livecore duo not necessarily15:44
SlimeyPeteCore Duo / Pentium Dual-Core = 32-bit15:44
Daisuke_LivePendeta, how much ram do you have?15:44
Pendeta1 Gig of RAM15:45
Daisuke_Livedo you do a lot of video encoding or other processor-intensive work?15:45
XbehavePendeta: to get the most of it you can use amd64, but it will cause some problems (im not having any but there are problems) otherwise standerd 32 bit kerenel will give very similar performance untill you get 3.2 gigs of ram15:46
Daisuke_Liveand that's the entire point i was getting to :)15:46
spirooXbehave: What happens if you have more than 3.2 GB15:47
Daisuke_Liveit will probably be better to stick with 32 bit despite it being a tiny bit slower, purely because it's got less compatibility issues15:47
Daisuke_Livespiroo, 32-bit OSes won't see it.15:47
Xbehaveits about 3.2 that a 32 bit kernel cant read15:47
PendetaIf I use 32 bit, should I use linux-generic or linux-image-generic?15:48
alunoi'm brazillian15:48
alunoand need of help!15:48
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.15:48
spirooMaybe I should try Linux 64-bit when I get my new Intel Core 2 E840015:49
Xbehavebut if its empty we can try and help here15:49
[Morpheus]hi everybody15:49
alunoXbehave: txs!15:49
SlimeyPetePendeta: they're the same thing15:49
Xbehavewhats the best way to see if my microphone is working? i cant find any recording programs in kubuntu, i have krec but it doesnt seam to record15:49
Daisuke_Livei've had enough of open geu15:49
Daisuke_Livereboot time15:50
[Morpheus]try audacity15:50
SlimeyPetejust two different names (the name changed at some point I think)15:50
Xbehaveaudacity is a dirty gnome program and i only have about 300mb left on my /, i was hopeing for some comandline majic to establish if it works at the lowest level, like cat /dev/microphone or something15:51
PendetaSlimeyPete, ok, great. Thanks to all of you guys!15:51
spirooHow do I change chmod on the folder. I cannot remove it in Dolphin :D because I am not owner of it.15:53
spiroo*on a15:54
xoqahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/157252 - this MAY be why kde theme manager isn't working for me15:54
xoqabut it's odd that even kde launcher settings don't work correctly15:54
ubotuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview15:55
makdaknifeXbehave: arecord might be what you were looking for15:57
kblinShawnRisk: which isn't installable either :)15:58
edgyJucato: thanks for your help and hints, now everything is ok15:58
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Steven__anyone here?16:07
Odd-rationaleSteven__: no16:07
Steven__I just had a quick question on if anyone has been able to put linux on a macbook16:08
Odd-rationaleSteven__: There is a ubuntu version for ppc i believe16:08
Steven__any idea where I can get that?16:09
ubotuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ16:09
Steven__oh goodness.. alright so i got to this page ( http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/releases/7.10/release/ ) but which one do i get? :S16:11
Steven__can i just download the one that says mac (PowerPC)?16:12
SlimeyPeteis your macbook powerpc-based?16:13
SlimeyPete(I thought macbooks were all x86)16:13
Steven__I'm not sure.. It's a newer macbook16:14
SlimeyPetewell, emt64 or whatever16:14
SlimeyPeteif it's new then it's intel-based16:14
Steven__yeah that one16:14
Steven__it is intel-based16:14
Steven__It's one of the newer ones.. I'm pretty sure it's guaranteed that once you buy something from apple they come out with the newest thing the next day:P16:15
Steven__So which one can I download?16:15
Steven__I had kubuntu on my PC but i found it's COMPLETELY different for Mac16:15
SlimeyPetejust use the standard PC one.16:16
SlimeyPetex86 or amd6416:16
SlimeyPetesee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook16:16
SlimeyPete(I don't actually have a macbook so I haven't tried it, but that seems to be the main howto on the subject)16:16
Steven__Alright thanks so much:)16:19
spirooHow do I isntall taglib1.5?16:19
Steven__what's the difference between x86 and amd64?16:19
PhilRodspiroo: it's not in adept?16:19
Steven__mac is 64 right?16:19
spirooPhilRod: Nope only got v1.4 :/16:20
PhilRodspiroo: how come you need it? if it's for building kde trunk, just grab and build kdesupport16:20
spirooI need it to compile Amarok216:21
spirooHow do I build kdesupport?16:21
spiroobtw, in a guide it says this: "NOTE: Do not build taglib from kdesupport with debug support enabled, because that will break the collectionscanner. "16:21
hydrogenthats a load of bunk.16:21
spirooNot sure what I should do and not should do.16:21
Steven__Mac is 64 right?16:22
PhilRodspiroo: same way you build any other trunk package - just use whatever instructions you're using currently and replace the package name with "kdesupport"16:22
spiroookay thanks :)16:23
JucatoSteven__: unless it's one of the Intel/Mactels, it's PPC afaik.. I think there's an #ubuntu-ppc channel16:23
Jucato(or just build kdesupport/taglib by itself...16:23
Steven__alright thanks:)16:23
spirooPhilRod: What is the source to kdesupport?16:24
PhilRodgrab it from svn16:25
PhilRodI don't think it gets packaged as-is. Alternatively, see if there's a taglib 1.5 source tarball available somewhere16:25
neville_Is it just me, or in Linux, when one program is using the sound hardware, another program can't use it?16:26
spiroo"this one does not work: svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdesupport16:26
PhilRodspiroo: http://developer.kde.org/~wheeler/files/src/taglib-1.5.tar.gz16:26
Jucatospiroo: http://ktown.kde.org/~wheeler/files/src/taglib-1.5.tar.gz16:26
Jucatospiroo: remove the KDE from that url and it will :)16:27
spiroookay :D16:27
flipstarneville_: which soundsystem are you using? pulseaudio ?16:28
Jucatospiroo: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Prerequisites#kdesupport16:28
neville_No, Alsa16:29
flipstarneville_: alsa and oss (the default) can handle different sound sources16:29
flipstarit is a special application or general ?16:29
neville_vmware and amarok at the same time, in particular16:29
hydrogenoss isn't the default16:30
neville_One or the other grabs control, and blocks the other16:30
hydrogenalsa can handle multiple sources16:30
hydrogenbut kubuntu still uses arts, for some stupid reason16:30
hydrogenand arts is a piece of shite, and is probably the cause of your problems16:30
neville_hmm, what could be done to investigate this a bit, before doing something rash? :P16:31
spirooJucato: I feel like a stupid idiot here :D16:31
flipstarneville_: you could try to change the soundserver..maybe hydrogen will give you a tip for a better one :)16:32
hydrogenalsa has supported audio mixing for a long time...16:32
spirooJucato: That could be why I never got it to work :D16:32
spirooPhilRod: Thanks for your help too ;)16:33
neville_okey dokey, and just one last thing, what is different regarding Pulse?16:34
ubuntu_hello and a nice day :D16:35
ubuntu_I've a question...16:35
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SlimeyPeteubuntu_: ask away16:36
ubuntu_ok ;)16:36
SlimeyPeteif any of us know the answer then we will help16:36
ubuntu_i try to install the drivers for my ati radeon x1650 Pro- Grafic-Card.16:36
ubuntu_And i installed them successfully.16:37
ubuntu_But the driver crashes (??) on starting up the pc. The Loading-Screen appears and when usually should appear the login-Screen the screenturns black.16:37
ubuntu_I found a source in the internet that gave me several solutions but none of them worked.16:37
ubuntu_i suggest that the error occures because my monitor is connected with the wrong of the two outputs of my card16:38
algyzubuntu_:  in the worst case restore xorg.conf16:38
ubuntu_it was restored16:38
ubuntu_and it hadn't worked.16:39
neville_ubuntu_ what does it say when you try to manually start x with the driver?16:39
ubuntu_or... with the vesa-driver of course, but i wanna use the ati-driver instead16:39
ubuntu_i can't access anything when the screen turned black16:39
ubuntu_including the console...16:39
SlimeyPeteubuntu_: did you use the restricted driver manager to install the driver? Or did you download from the ATI website?16:40
ubuntu_i downloaded from the ati site...16:40
neville_control + alt + f1 should switch you to a console ubuntu_16:40
SlimeyPetethat's not the best way to do it on kubuntu16:40
ubuntu_as i said, i'm sure that the driver is ok16:40
ubuntu_i tried ctrl+alt+F116:40
SlimeyPetedoesn't sound like it's OK.16:41
ubuntu_hm i think it's only because my settings in xorg.conf16:41
SlimeyPeteI would suggest going back to VESA mode, then running the Restricted Driver Manager from the System Settings window.16:41
SlimeyPeteubuntu_: if ctrl-alt-f1 didn't work then the driver probably crashed X.16:41
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ubuntu_but in the internet i read that it can be normal that the driver turns the screen black and that you can fix it through configuring the xorg.conf16:43
ubuntu_some modifications were made by me in the pasted text: the videooverlay, opengloverlay and the monitorlayout16:44
ubuntu_currently my monitor is connected via the litle card-output with "video". I've an adapter to connect it to the vga-output, but when i tried this nothing happend...16:45
tifinei need a command to create a zip file on command16:45
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression16:46
SlimeyPetethe command is "zip zipfilename file1 file2 file3..." I think16:47
ubuntu_so, thats all i've tried right now... do you know a solution excluding reset or something like that? linux is realy bad with the vesa drivers...16:47
flipstarubuntu_: the xorg.conf shows that you card isn't detected correct16:48
flipstarmaybe you try to reinstall the driver or just try the drivers in the repos16:48
ubuntu_where do you see that the card isn't detected?16:50
flipstarrepos=repositories the software sources included in kubuntu16:50
flipstarit says "Standardgrafikkarte" instead of the card name16:50
ubuntu_yes by manually reconfiguring xorg in console (x-server was crashed) it couldn't detect my card...16:52
ubuntu_so i gave it the german-name (sorry, thats also the reason for my bad english :D) Standardgrafikkarte16:52
ubuntu_Could it help to connect the card via the vga-output and run the detection once again?16:53
ubuntu_because my friend's pc has the vga-output for his pc...+16:53
neville_There's nothing dangerous with trying Pulseaudio from the repos, is there?16:54
flipstaryou mean the monitor ? dont know if that makes a difference..try running the ati detection tool..16:54
flipstarneville_: probably not16:54
neville_Fingers crossed in that case :P16:54
amerigo! mobos16:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mobos - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:55
eagles0513875amerigo: what u looking for16:56
spirooHow do I login to this: Autentiseringsregion (realm): <https://svn.kde.org:443> KDE SVN account16:57
ubuntu_ati detection tool?16:57
spirooplease, you gotta be kidding me. For a moment ago anonsvg worked. Now I need a fucking account also :D16:58
flipstarfor the xorg..yes its long time ago i used ati ..16:58
eagles0513875!language | spiroo16:58
ubotuspiroo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:58
spiroosorry :D16:58
Plextorhi everyone. when i install kubuntu, then install nvidia drivers, then reboot, i can't get my X loaded. i get some busybox, does anybody know anything about it?16:58
spirooWell, someone?16:58
flipstarspiroo: what are you trying to do ?16:59
spirooflipstar: I am tryint to get svg from: svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdebase16:59
spirooBut they request username and password. IT did not for a moment ago.17:00
flipstarjust hit enter ..17:00
flipstarthere's usally no passwd on svn17:00
spirooauthorization failed it says17:01
spirooI know, but now it is password17:01
spirooThis only happens me, I promise :D17:01
spirooANyone know what the problem is?17:03
flipstarhere it works great..17:03
flipstarjust typed 'svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdebase'17:03
spiroowell I try again then17:04
hydrogenspiroo: rm workspace/kwin/clients/ozone/lib -rf17:05
hydrogenand svn up again17:05
spirooNo, same error. Maybe they banned me because I am stealing bandwidth :D17:05
flipstarlol :)17:05
spirooI have been compiling all day long and realodaing :D17:06
spirooNot impossible17:07
flipstarspiroo: just try the thing above17:07
flipstarhi veloxid17:07
spirooI tried, nothing happens. Still same old story. Asking for autorization17:07
spirooIt only happens with kdebase. The other svn works17:07
veloxidI've a problem with centrino speedstepping, my cpu is running on 600Mhz, although it can run with 2Ghz17:08
veloxidI tried a few things with cpufreq but it doesn't run at all17:09
flipstarspiroo: try rename ~/.subversion17:09
spirooWhere is it, there is none in home folder anyway17:11
veloxidis there anyone who can help me with that problem?17:11
ovidiuwhat problem?17:12
spirooveloxid: This is not a overclocking channel ;)17:12
hydrogenspiroo: that has nothing to do with overclocking..17:12
flipstarveloxid: try stopping the deamon by <sudo /etc/init.d/powernowd stop> or install a applett that controls the cpu freq.. <sudo apt-get install emifreq-applet>17:13
veloxidI know I do not want overclock but use my "normal" cpu clocking and not just the 600Mhz17:13
spirooAh sorry, read a little bit weird :D17:13
spirooThis is my awkward problem: http://pastebin.org/2969717:15
ovidiuhi... I had compilled on my computer amarok 1.4.9 version, but now the aptitude updater says that there is an update for amarok... the update version is 1.4.8... how can I fix this??17:15
veloxidpowernowd is not installed, but cpufreqd17:15
flipstarovidiu: you can make dpkg to hold the costum package by <echo amarok hold|sudo dpkg --set-selections>17:16
veloxidwhile installing the applet, there is this error mesage: "17:16
veloxidCpuFreq support not available. Check sysfs is mounted and your CPU-specific module is loaded or built in the kernel.17:16
veloxidinvoke-rc.d: initscript emifreq-applet, action "start" failed.17:16
spiroogah! This is killing me. Please somebody, jsut fix it :D17:16
ovidiuthanks flipstar17:16
hydrogenovidiu: there should be a package for gutsy..17:17
flipstarveloxid: hm then youre cpu is not supported by emifreq ..17:17
eagles0513875spiroo: if u dont know what ur doing y not instll kde4 from repos17:17
hydrogen!en | eagles051387517:17
ovidiuin what repository?17:17
ubotueagles0513875: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat17:17
eagles0513875ty for the reminder17:17
ubuntutest live cd kubuntu17:17
veloxidflipstar: it is an centrino-M 2Ghz, <- It would be quite strange if it is not supported17:18
spirooeagles: I almost know what I am doing. I know that anonsvn.kde.org not requires authorization that is for sure.17:18
hydrogenovidiu: ah, apparently there isn't one yet...17:18
hydrogenapachelogger only made one for hardy :/17:18
spirooI am trying to logout and login again. Maybe something spooky happened with my internet :D17:19
eagles0513875u broked it17:20
eagles0513875actually more like borked it17:20
flipstarveloxid: its strange that you dont have powernowd17:20
veloxidi can try powernowd, perhaps that helps17:20
veloxidi tried cpufreqd <- this is uninstalling powernowd17:21
spirooStill same problem :P17:21
Cannonhey flipstar17:22
flipstarveloxid: ah..then try disabling cpufreqd instead17:22
flipstarhi Cannon17:22
Cannonhows you today m8?17:22
flipstargood, thanks17:24
veloxidflipstar: just installed powernowd17:24
Cannonwhy does root@cannon-desktop:~# ls give no info when cannon@cannon-desktop:~$ ls does?17:24
veloxidso what do i have to do with powernowd?17:24
flipstarveloxid: you can try to disable it in systemsettings>advanced>services17:25
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flipstarCannon: maybe /root/ is empty..?17:26
Cannonlol, how can it be?17:26
Cannonwhat about etc, bin, mnt and such17:26
veloxidpowernowd is not running17:27
hydrogenwhy wouldn't /root be empty?17:27
spirooIs it possible to create an account on svg?17:27
veloxidif i try to run it it tells me that CPU frequency scaling not supported...17:28
Xbehave_is there a kde equivilent to pulse audio?17:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pulse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:29
hydrogenphonon is a bit higher level interface17:30
Xbehave_ahh, so i have to upgrade to 4.x to be able to controll aplication volumes seperatly17:31
flipstarCannon: try <ls />17:32
veloxidflipstar: can't start powernowd, and it has still 600mhz17:32
spirooHow do I add groups to a certain user?17:35
hydrogengpasswd -a user groups17:36
coggzveloxid: have u rebooted?17:36
coggzsilly question17:36
flipstarveloxid: try <sudo modprobe acpi_cpufreq> and then try again17:36
olegbspiroo: the kuser gui could be a way to go17:37
spirooNot in KDE4 I am afraid17:37
olegbi have it in kde417:38
spiroohydrogen: Is it possible to add one user to every single group in one step. I do not know what the group names are17:38
spirooolegb: Where?17:38
veloxidcoggz: not rebootet, when starting modpobe there is an error inserting acpi_freq...: not such device17:38
hydrogenyou don't want to add them to every single group17:38
spiroohydrogen: I need one user to be able to listen on music and use sudo command17:38
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hydrogengpasswd -a user audio admin17:39
dhqwhen i run xterm i get this error wWarning: couldn't find charset data for locale C; using ISO 8859-1.17:39
olegbspiroo: programs -> system -> usermanagement (i use a localized version, so it might be a different name)17:39
crobehi, where is the difference between wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com? where should an article about a specal device go?17:39
coggzoh, right veloxid17:39
spirooah there I go, thanks olegb17:40
veloxidso what does it mean?17:40
flipstarveloxid: which kernel (uname -r) and version (lsb_release -a) you are running ?17:41
veloxidkernel: 2.6.24-16-generic17:42
veloxidRelease:        8.0417:42
_ZeuZ_For some weird reason, whenever I turn off KDM Themes (for the user welcome screen) it appears to have been unclicked, then when I come back to the tab, it's clicked again... could it be coliding? (Login Manager and KDM Themes?)17:43
spirooNow I get it, while I should fetch and extern object, then it asks for autorization.17:49
peahbeahHello, which file I have to edit to create a desktop contextmenu extension f. e. for images? Within Dolphin it's easy. There I have only to create a *.desktop in the /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/ folder. But this servicemenus aren't available at the desktop.17:49
spirooCan someone check this out:17:52
spirooHämtar externt objekt till "kdebase/workspace/kwin/clients/ozone/lib"17:52
spirooAutentiseringsregion (realm): <https://svn.kde.org:443> KDE SVN account17:52
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flipstarspiroo: could you translate it ?17:52
spirooFetching/Downloading extern object for "kdebase ...."17:53
spirooAuthorizationregion (realm): ....17:53
veloxidcoggz: what does "oh right" mean?17:54
spirooAfterwards it is asking for password for user kde-devel. That "works" then it asks for username which it shouldnt and then password.17:54
coggzit means i am unable to help as i am not good with modprobe and devices etc...17:54
veloxidok shit17:54
veloxidbut thx17:55
jussio1!ohmy | veloxid17:55
spiroo* Fetching/Downloading extern object to "kdebase/workspace/kwin/clients/ozone/lib"17:55
ubotuveloxid: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.17:55
flipstarveloxid: maybe try in #ubuntu+1 since seems we have no further idea here17:55
flipstarspiroo: maybe check out the svn mentioned here http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE+Subversion+HOWTO17:56
veloxidok i will try.  thx for your17:57
spiroothanks flipstar, Will check it out17:57
spirooflipstar: Sorry, but nothing helped me.18:00
flipstarthere is a svn archive listed..18:01
flipstarsvn co -r <x> https://svn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdebase/18:01
flipstarbtw which ftp server you guy's prefer? i used to run vsftpd but its poor in monitoring..18:02
rickestflipstar: anon ftp server for the public?18:03
Tm_TI use only ssh18:03
flipstarrickest: no private ftp18:03
rickestnobody I know is using FTP anymore18:03
rickestscp, sftp, sshfs18:03
flipstaryes ftp over ssl..18:04
Martin_Can anyone help me to boot up my installed kubuntu via grub-console?18:04
spiroohehe :P18:05
Martin_That's everything I'm able to get with my xfs fs18:05
spirooDoes kdebase in trunk works to fetch from wihout authorization for anyone of you guys?18:06
SSJ_GZspiroo: Known issue18:07
spirooSSJ_GZ: Is it?18:07
SSJ_GZspiroo: Yep - check #kde-devel18:07
spirooIs there a solution for the issue?18:07
SSJ_GZspiroo: Patience :)18:07
spirooSSJ_GZ: Hehe, yes I have waited all day long to trying compile KDE :D18:08
SSJ_GZspiroo: Now is a really bad time, due to the WoC port in Plasma, amongst other things :)18:08
spirooSSJ_GZ: Woho, awesome. This only happens me. I thought I should give it a go because I wanted to test Amarok 2 :D Well, I am not mad. Udnerstand you guys are developing. But you must agree this is quite annoying :D18:10
SSJ_GZspiroo: That's trunk/ for you :)18:11
spirooSSJ_GZ: :P18:11
redeianI love kubuntu18:11
emilsedghSSJ_GZ: do you know what is the status of khtml and acid? last time i checked, last week, it was 73, is it improved?18:11
SSJ_GZemilsedgh: Haven't tried, sorry :/18:12
redeiani don't know18:12
emilsedghok ok no problem SSJ_GZ18:12
redeianDo you know what my name is?18:12
spirooSSJ_GZ: The funny thing is that it is only kdebase that has problem :D The only one I havent compiled yet xD18:13
SSJ_GZspiroo: Hehe :)18:13
emilsedghSaeidZebardast: hi :)18:13
redeianThis is my first time for use konverstion on kde.18:14
redeianNow I feel very exciting18:14
redeian*very excite18:14
spirooredeian: Welcome to the modern world :D18:14
XenThraLlol, borat-sounding: "excite"18:15
SaeidZebardastemilsedgh: hi18:15
XenThraL"I'm very exCITE"18:15
redeianthank you.18:15
SSJ_GZis nice18:16
redeianmy english is very terrible.18:16
spirooNever the less. I am not an expert on english myself :D18:17
redeianI have tried stady it at AUA in Thailand.18:17
redeianHowever you eng is cool!.18:18
XenThraLredeian: its understandable, so good enough :)18:18
XenThraLredeian: you may want to try out the auto-spelling feature in konversation18:18
redeianT_T thank you.18:18
XenThraLredeian: right click where you type and select auto spell check18:18
XenThraLredeian: that helps a LOT, (english isn't my first language either)18:18
redeianI will try now. It still butter.18:19
spirooWoho now does svn works again :D18:20
flipstarspiroo: the certificate for kdebase/workspace/kwin/clients/ozone/lib isn't valid ..18:21
redeianOh auto spill checker's very cool.18:21
flipstarspiroo: nvm if it works :)18:21
spirooflipstar: :D18:21
spirooBut the code does not work so good though xD Compiling error18:22
algyzHow can I check for bad sectors in ntfs and ext3 partitions?18:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sectors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:24
ScorpKingalgyz: man fsck18:24
redeianis fdisk work?18:25
algyz!thanks | ScorpKing18:25
ubotuScorpKing: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)18:25
redeianHa ha18:25
ScorpKingalgyz: you're welcome :)18:25
flipstaralgyz: with badblocks .. fsck should be able to fix common fs errors18:26
algyzI tried to send a file using kvirc, but kvirc crashed http://pastebin.ca/984883, kvirc guys told, that probably bad sectors :)18:26
algyzI'm not sure though18:26
redeiantoday is thai new year, don't forget travel in Thailand.18:31
BunnyRevolutionhi.  this is pretty basic, but is there a way to get information about the pc similar to device manager, ie, proc speed, mem, etc.18:34
flipstarBunnyRevolution: install/use <lshw> it has even nice a gui <lshw-gtk>18:35
flipstarhi slow-motion18:37
slow-motionhi flipstar18:37
BunnyRevolutionfor kubuntu?  isn't gtk gnome?18:40
BunnyRevolutionnm, it apperas kubuntu hardy has it pre-installed18:42
spirooI am following this guide: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/2.0_Development_HowTo18:42
rickestBunnyRevolution: Gnome uses gtk by default but by no means does use of gtk restrict an app to Gnome-only18:43
ScorpKingis there a quick way to play a wav file via cli?18:43
spirooBut I does not understand this:18:43
spirooNOTE: Amarok will only build correctly if your Strigi library was built with "clucene" support. Install clucene and clucene-dev, then rebuild Strigi (in kdesupport), then build Amarok.18:43
spirooNOTE: Do not build taglib from kdesupport with debug support enabled, because that will break the collectionscanner.18:43
flipstarScorpKing: cmus and mplayer can run in cli ..if wav support is installed they will play it18:43
algyznobody knows?18:44
algyzI tried to send a file using kvirc, but kvirc crashed http://pastebin.ca/984883, kvirc guys told, that probably bad sectors :)18:44
ScorpKingthanks flipstar18:44
spiroohaha you gotta be kidding me: "Expect a higher risk of build failure on Mondays when most kdelibs changes are committed. "18:45
eagles0513875spiroo: lol suxs to be u18:45
spirooYes, certainly :D Well I guess thats why I have luck with women :D18:45
ScorpKingalgyz: dmesg | tail and see if there's I/O Errors18:46
algyzerrors only with vmnet, can't imagine, why it's crached :|18:47
_ZeuZ_roger_ el canal en español noe s este18:48
roger_y como le hago18:48
algyz!es | roger_18:48
uboturoger_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.18:48
_ZeuZ_te unis a #kubuntu-es18:48
roger_kooko GRACIAS18:49
algyzpor favor18:50
_ZeuZ_algyz: que pasho?18:50
algyzque pasa tio?18:50
_ZeuZ_Nada, pregunto por tu "por favor" que necesitabas, no obstante, tendriamos que ir a kubutnu-es para hablar en español ^^18:51
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat18:51
spirooI have installed taglib1.5 but amarok does nto find it. What could be wrong?18:52
spirooMy amarok error :D http://pastebin.org/2971918:54
_ZeuZ_how long till Hardy's official release?18:55
flipstar_ZeuZ_: ten days18:55
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu18:55
Teo-how can i add more workspaces???18:55
spirooWill there be a beta2?18:56
combohow can log-out in console? :D18:56
eagles0513875flipstar: do u know how to pkgs stuf18:56
eagles0513875combo: type login18:56
flipstarcombo: 'exit'18:56
_ZeuZ_eagles0513875 actually that's a way to change users, the best way is LOGOUT xD18:57
comboflipstar: if exit then terminal is closed18:57
eagles0513875_ZeuZ_: thats what i meant im not thinking stright18:57
flipstareagles0513875: what do you mean ?18:57
eagles0513875flipstar: do u fix bugs18:57
flipstaronly my own bugs :)18:57
comboeagles0513875: it doesn't work :/18:58
eagles0513875combo: try logout18:58
_ZeuZ_anybody up to a simple NAT question?18:58
eagles0513875flipstar: u dont pkgs anything for kubuntu repos18:58
comboeagles0513875: nope18:58
flipstareagles0513875: no18:58
eagles0513875damn it18:58
flipstarcombo: you mean in a shell or tty ?18:58
eagles0513875combo: logout doesnt work18:58
Chanidoes kubuntu have any tools to install to a hard drive *without* booting from a cd? I want to install a distro on a usb hard drive so that a comp without a cd drive can boot it18:59
_ZeuZ_if exit does not work, nor logout, nor login, nor user, then you have a problem there18:59
flipstar!install | Chani18:59
ubotuChani: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate18:59
comboflipstar: i mean logout to login manager18:59
Chaniflipstar: thanks18:59
comboflipstar: there where u're entering password at start18:59
flipstarcombo: in a tty? just type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start19:00
flipstarthis will bring up kdm19:00
comboflipstar: i've installed FLUXBOX and can't logout! :/ nothing is here :|19:00
comboand don't want reset my comp19:00
combojust want to logout to change session19:00
combofrom fluxbox to KDE19:00
Maulwurfalt + ctrl + "<-"19:01
flipstarisn't fluxbox a window manager ?19:01
_ZeuZ_it's also a desktop envirment19:01
flipstarhm combo just try to start kdm..there you probably can choose between those19:02
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Maulwurfhm, ok i just thought19:02
Chanihmm. all of those options seem to involve rebooting the cd-reading computer...19:02
flipstarChani: you can boot from usb if your bios support it19:03
BugsBunnyBRhey people..someone can tell why the installer of the kubuntu 8.04 crashes when I set the lang to Portuguese ?19:03
Daisuke_Ido1) !pt, 2) ubuntu+119:04
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.19:04
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came0hey when I use the export command, what file is that appeneding to?19:06
cuzntwhere can i find the repository for iceape please?19:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about iceape - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:07
combooups... so i'll ask again cuz i lsot connection: how can i logout in console so i can change session from fluxbox to KDE ?? :)19:08
PhilRodyou want to log out a graphical session from the console? or log out a console session from the console?19:09
PhilRodor something else?19:09
comboPhilRod: logout a graphical session19:09
PhilRodI'm tempted to just suggest Ctrl+Alt+Backspace19:09
PhilRodalthough presumably there's a proper way to end a fluxbox session19:10
_ZeuZ_CTRL + ALT + F3 (or any F exept F7 and up) then /etc/init.d/xdm stop && /etc/init.d/kdm start19:10
jhutchins_wkBad thing:  all the article links on the main kubuntu page point to testing software.  You have to go to the download page to get the released version.  This encourages people who don't know what they're doing to get the alpha/rc software.  Bad.19:14
elmerskydoes anybody have fully working speedstep in kde 3.5 / 4.0 in kubuntu ?19:16
elmerskyyes, for notebooks, scaling cpu frequency19:18
elmerskyit works well in gnome19:18
elmerskybut in kde i can't make it work19:18
_ZeuZ_with hardy, on mine works... though it only reduces my turion 64x2 to half the frequency of each processor...19:19
elmerskyon my hp notebook nx9420 it works only in gnome, in kde i have to edit cpufreq values manually19:20
came0hey when I use the export command, what file is that appeneding to? ($ export JAVA_HOME=<PATH>)19:20
_ZeuZ_came0, none, I guess just the enviroment variables19:21
_ZeuZ_elmersky here it works... though I'm sure I can reduce the frequency more...19:21
came0_ZeuZ_: how can I change it if I make a typo?19:21
_ZeuZ_came0: change it back to what it was? take the value first.. then restore it after usage, if not, you'll have to reboot to have it back19:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about firefox3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:22
_ZeuZ_cuznt: the beta is avaible in Hardy.19:22
came0_ZeuZ_: how to I get the current value?19:23
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elmersky_ZeuZ_: then you're lucky one ;-) I wanted to try kde4 but without speedstep it's useless for me19:23
_ZeuZ_I know it has to be something like printing the PATH variables, not sure though...19:23
flipstarcame0: maybe its in /etc/environment19:24
_ZeuZ_elmersky: I use it with KDE 3.5.9 ^^ beta testing purpouses, works pretty well, pretty much comparable to Slackware, though it keeps too much memory in buffers, hope the RC fixes that19:24
elmersky_ZeuZ_: i was trying many versions of KDE, with no luck19:26
elmerskyi think that kde needs good cpu frequency applet like gnome19:26
flipstarelmersky: you can install emifreq-applet also in kde19:27
_ZeuZ_hmmm... Well, the "Bulletproof" of ubuntu, for KDE, is pretty crappy, I just copied my xorg.conf from my Debian ETCH and it works sweet on my HP Pavilion DV2135NR19:27
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elmerskyflipstar: thanks, i'll try it19:29
_ZeuZ_flipstar: emifreq-applet? mind you pointing me to a place to read about it withot prompting ubotu?19:30
flipstar_ZeuZ_: apt-cache show emifreq-applet maybe :)19:30
veloxidflipstar: in the other channel they say that it is probbably a user-error or a kernel-error19:30
blueyedHi. Which service do I need to (re)start, if global hotkeys like alt-f2 stopped working?19:31
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blueyed(alt-tab still works)19:31
PhilRodalt+f2 in kde3 is run by kdesktop19:31
blueyedPhilRod: Thanks, works :)19:31
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flipstarveloxid: since youre using a generic kernel..i dont think so..19:33
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flipstarveloxid: maybe you can fix the frequenz in bios as a workaround19:33
spirooHow do I delete files in trash even if I dont have permissions? I am only user of my PC, but they have root permissions19:34
veloxidno there are no bios settings which can change the frequence19:34
flipstarspiroo: ask the admin :)19:34
spirooI am admin19:34
flipstarveloxid: not even support for costum frequences or so ?19:35
coggzveloxid: are u still having problems?19:35
flipstarspiroo: then delete with sudo ..19:35
spirooQuite hard to do that in Dolphin. Please do not force me to do it in terminal manually :D19:35
veloxidit a notebook from fujitsu-siemens, no possibilities to change anything there19:36
veloxidbut with windows it wworks on 2ghz19:36
flipstarspiroo: you can edit as root in dolphin..?19:36
coggzveloxid: how long u been usin kubuntu?19:36
jussio1spiroo: doesnt dolphin have a root button?19:37
veloxidjust started19:37
flipstarveloxid: before that you can try a live cd of a stable release ..19:37
coggzmajor step, but might work19:37
veloxidokk live-cd is a good idea.19:38
flipstarmaybe it works fine in gutdy19:38
coggzdid it always run in linux at600mhz19:38
coggzor was it 2ghz once19:38
* be zaraz wraca...19:38
* be - wróciłem :D19:38
_ZeuZ_hey, talking about that, I found a Kubuntu 7.10 exclusive bug...19:38
_ZeuZ_allows you to log as root through sudo before KDM starts and then it loads the desktop (creating the .kde files on /root) it's weird, still haven't heard reply from Canonical though19:39
veloxidcoggz: it was always on 600mhz since i ve installed it,19:40
coggzwhat is your laptop model etc...19:40
flipstarveloxid: btw how do you know its 600mhz ?19:40
veloxidbefore i installed 6.10 but there was a problem with my wlan so i needed another version, so i do not know if it had 2ghz there19:41
veloxidit is a fujitsu siemens amilo 142519:41
veloxidused the performance monitor and a program which uses a lot of cpu-load, (for a while on almost 100%)19:42
blueyedveloxid: what's your problem (missed the beginning)?19:42
blueyedveloxid: cpu does not scale up?19:43
veloxidstays at 600mhz all the time19:43
coggzIf the machine is idle it runs with 600 MHz. If it needs more power it increases the speed to 800 MHz, 1GHz, 1.2GHz, 1.4GHz and 1.7GHz. You can control the speed step behaviour via sysfs19:44
blueyedveloxid: also if you run "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null"? If you then start top, it the cat process using all cpu?19:44
_ZeuZ_coggz: how to control that?19:44
coggzt's possible to throttle down the CPU to 600 MHz with the silent mode button. Pushing it again will bring it back to normal speed.19:44
coggzdoes it work?19:45
coggzveloxid: read that19:46
veloxidcoggz; tere is no /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq19:49
veloxidup to cpu0 its ok but cpufreq does not exist19:49
veloxidi am not sure if pentium m is selected in ther kernel confguration19:50
veloxidhow can i see if i selected it19:50
fdovingveloxid: grep -ni pentium /boot/config-$(uname -r)19:51
_ZeuZ_any idea how can I determine wich is the lowest frequency my turion 64x2 processor can be working at?19:52
veloxidfdoving: nothing happend... is that right?19:53
fdoving_ZeuZ_: usually: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies19:53
veloxidah sry19:53
fdovingveloxid: depends.19:53
veloxid673:# CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set19:53
veloxid674:# CONFIG_MPENTIUMII is not set19:53
veloxid675:# CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set19:53
veloxid676:# CONFIG_MPENTIUMM is not set19:53
veloxidso probably i have to set the 67619:53
_ZeuZ_fdoving: only those frequencies? can't them be set lower?19:54
veloxidhow do i do setting the config?19:56
flipstarveloxid: this config belongs to the kernel..19:57
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veloxid__nick veloxid19:57
algyzkpowersave is good thing19:57
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veloxidso I cannot do anything?19:57
algyzveloxid:  you can do everything :)19:58
_ZeuZ_is there any way to add a lower frequency for my processor to scal to it and consume less batery?19:58
blueyedveloxid: if you'd answered my question, I could say if it's bug 188226, you're experiencing..19:58
flipstaryou could compile the kernel with CONFIG_MPENTIUMM=y19:58
algyz_ZeuZ_:  try kpowersave19:58
veloxidblueyed: which queston?19:59
flipstar"veloxid: also if you run "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null"? If you then start top, it the cat process using all cpu?"19:59
blueyedNo ubotu here? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/18822619:59
blueyedveloxid: with cat and top19:59
flipstar!bug 18822619:59
flipstar!bug #18822620:00
blueyedveloxid: also if you run "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null"? If you then start top, it the cat process using all cpu?20:00
_ZeuZ_algyz: that wont allow me to drop the frequency lower.20:00
blueyedsry for spamming ;)20:00
algyz_ZeuZ_:  it should, I can do this20:00
ubotupong is an old atari game. It's fun!20:00
algyz_ZeuZ_:  right mouse click, set cpu frequency policy20:01
_ZeuZ_Policy is one thing.20:01
veloxidcat is uusing around 70% of the cpu20:01
veloxidnow 8520:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about centrino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:01
_ZeuZ_Lowering the frequency lower than it's sayd here: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies is another20:01
coggztry that20:01
Daisuke_Idoso youw ant to lower it lower than it will actually step down?20:02
_ZeuZ_Daisuke_Ido: I don't really think the frequency it shows there it's the lower20:03
Daisuke_Idowhat processor?20:03
_ZeuZ_Turion 64x2 @ 1600mhz20:04
veloxidsry, do not understand what to do....20:04
algyzveloxid:  what kind of problem?20:05
_ZeuZ_Daisuke_Ido: it currently allows me to use 800mhz or 1600mhz though I'm sure it can go lower20:05
Daisuke_Idoi really doubt it can go lower20:05
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veloxidcoggz write: try that, i do not see what i should try with that page20:07
_ZeuZ_Daisuke_Ido: why do you think that?20:07
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Daisuke_Idoit looks like those are the only two available speeds for that processor.20:07
Ar-PharazonHi, I need to send files from kubuntu to winxp over ethernet. Can anyone help?20:07
Daisuke_Idothere may be options between those20:08
Daisuke_Idobut those are the high and low20:08
veloxidjust have to leave for a while be back in 2 hours. thx for your help up to now, will try new stuff later20:09
choupinaset name CHN20:11
FFForeverhow do i install open office?20:12
emilsedghFFForever: use adept, search for it, and right click on it and click on install20:14
Cannonhey guys, am using azureus to DL some tv eps but it won't save into /mnt due to permission problems ... would it be best to give azureus root or change permissions of /mnt?20:14
flipstardownload into home and link to /mnt20:15
Cannonerm, how?20:15
emilsedghCannon: probably the best is to download it somewhere else, if not, just give some persmissions to that app.dont run it as root20:15
blueyedveloxid: /me is missing /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ also, quite suddenly.. it used to be there (amd64)20:15
blueyedveloxid: are you using Hardy?20:16
Cannonhow can I set permission of the drive to my user name?20:16
flipstarCannon: first, why do you want it in /mnt ?20:16
Cannonbecause thats where somebody told me to mount sda4 to yesterday20:17
flipstaroh..if you mounted a drive there then just mount with user option and rw probably20:17
Cannonand ... i have noticed that it doesn't automount on start-up20:17
Cannoncannon@cannon-desktop:~$ sudo chown cannon /mnt20:22
Cannonchown: changing ownership of `/mnt': Operation not permitted20:22
CannonPlease help[ me flip20:22
flipstarCannon: best thing would probably be editing fstab20:22
Cannonwhre is that located?20:23
blueyedveloxid: what does /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuidle/current_driver contain for you?20:23
flipstarin /etc /etc/fstab20:23
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suwroI use kubuntu for web development - php/java/openLaszlo - with fglrx driver - What to do to have shadows on window - I've tried kde's settings but it seems fglrx does not like it... I have black windows - in fact black screen just some text here and there - anyone have any ideea? compiz i think is big memory eater - no?20:25
Cannon# /dev/hda520:25
CannonUUID=a0dd4028-1f91-4801-8c68-1a37eb962b82 none            swap    sw              0       020:25
Cannon/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       020:25
CannonHow do I add sda4 flipstar?20:25
flipstaruhm it isn't there..? how did you mount it20:26
suwrometisse maybe?20:26
suwroanyone has metise ?20:26
Cannonby typing mount dev/sda4 /mnt20:26
flipstarthen maybe type mount /dev/sda4 /mnt -o rw or something, after unmounting..20:27
flipstarim no expert in this20:27
andyho623has anyone else had any trouble updating firefox to ff3? for some reason I can't get it to install from the tar or thru synaptic20:28
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Cannonigh, how do you unmount?20:28
suwroumount /mountpoint20:28
Cannoni thought ti would be unmount20:28
flipstarits a command20:28
suwronope - it's umount20:29
Cannoncannon@cannon-desktop:~$ umount /dev/sda420:29
Cannonumount: /dev/sda4 is not in the fstab (and you are not root)20:29
suwrosudo umount /dec/sda420:29
flipstarhm ?20:29
suwrosudo umount /dev/sda420:29
flipstarsudo umnount /mnt rather20:29
suwroit's ok -20:29
flipstararr typo20:29
suwroflipstar: man umount -> ... umount [-dflnrv] dir | device [...]  << notice the pipe? in our case is OR :)20:30
Cannonnow it's showing as empty :(20:31
suwroCannon: what is showing as empty?20:31
andyho623ok.. nm I might just be retarded... LOL20:31
flipstarsuwro: oh..okay didnt knew that thanks :)20:31
suwroCannon: you umount it20:31
Cannonsudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt -o rw20:31
CannonLets me in but no files20:31
suwrosudo su20:32
flipstarandyho623: the .tar from mozilla website ?20:32
suwrogo there20:32
Cannoni already unounted it20:32
Cannoncannon@cannon-desktop:~$ sudo umount /mnt20:32
Cannoncannon@cannon-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt -o rw20:32
suwromount /dev/sda4 /mnt20:32
nejodeCanon: you have to specify the filesystem type when you mount20:32
suwro-o rw is implicit if the file format permits it.20:32
Cannonit's a fat3220:32
suwromount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt20:33
Cannonwill it still be mounted upon reboot suwro?20:33
nejodesudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /mnt/somefolder20:33
suwroCannon: no20:33
flipstarsuwro: he wants to mount so user can write to it20:33
andyho623flipstar - yeah that's what I was talking about, but I just fixed it so all is good now.. just temporary brain fart there! LOL20:33
suwroCannon: add this line to /etc/fstab20:33
flipstarandyho623: good :)20:34
suwro/dev/sda4 /mnt vfat user,defaults 0 020:34
jonathan__i tried to intall ati drivers for my graphic-card and it didn't work.20:34
suwroCannon: sudo pico /etc/fstab20:34
jonathan__and i don't gonna try it again because i tried it already 1 million times20:34
suwroor whatever your-re favorit editod is.20:34
lopinI just came back to my desktop after being out, and I recieved a notice that someone was trying to view my desktop remotely through VNC.  Is this a cause for concern?20:34
flipstar!doesntwork | jonathan__20:35
jonathan__and i'm a litle bit angry about kubuntu and ati and the situation.20:35
ubotujonathan__: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.20:35
Cannonnow it won't let me dave the damn file!20:35
Cannoni REALLY hate all this root stuff20:35
suwrolopin: maybe someone just scan your computer and found that you have port 5900 open.20:35
lopinI'm behind a firewall...20:35
flipstarCannon: you must edit the file as root.. <kdesu kate /etc/fstab> for e.g20:35
lopinI've got port 80 open and a few others, but they all go to another computer on my network.20:36
lopinIs there some way that I can pull up a log?20:36
jonathan__so i've a simple question :) is there a possibility to play 3d-games or software like google earth WITHOUT the ATI-Drivers?20:36
suwroCannon: man - better read about UNIX folders and devices - everything is a file - that's why is so secured - compare to windows.20:36
Cannonlol, i'd rather have something insecrure that works easily20:37
lopinI'm scared...20:37
Cannonit's like having to learn a new language!20:37
suwrojonathan__: yes it is - but it is working slow like hell - use mesa libs.20:37
suwroCannon: then switch to windows -20:37
jonathan__thats what i'm actually doing, and it's slow like hell ;)20:37
suwroCannon: nope - just read20:37
jonathan__is there an other possibility?20:37
suwroCannon: it's the same thing - just a little bit secured.20:37
flipstarjonathan__: whats the problem with installing drivers ?20:38
Cannonit's funny how many linux users tell me to switch back to windows20:38
suwroCannon: if you want my oppinion - i'll rather have something hard and stable than insecure and easy.20:38
flipstarjonathan__: just use the restricted-manager in kmenu ..20:38
blueyedveloxid: See https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/205087 - appears to be a regression in Hardy. You are using Hardy, correct?20:38
jonathan__what do you think i tried the last week? ^20:39
Cannonbrb, reboot20:39
suwroCannon: we don't like the ones who read tru' lines or who don't even bother to google it for simple answers20:39
lopinWhere are the vnc logs?20:39
Cannoni struggle to follow things like that suwro20:39
jonathan__it's a well-known problem that ati isn't able to produce good and working drivers for the x-Series.20:39
Cannoni feel suicidal most of the day m820:39
suwroCannon: i've answered this kind of questions several times in last 7 years20:39
* Cannon can't even follow simple instructions20:39
Cannonam very ill20:40
jonathan__and i'm to stupid and lazy to configure this the next week also20:40
suwrojonathan__: I know - but I've seen metisse on mandriva - and got impressed20:40
Cannonand unfortunatly have little patience ... i do appreciate the help though20:40
suwrojonathan__: umm - and with fglrx driver ;)20:40
suwrojonathan__: simply and easy - just works.20:40
suwroCannon: ok :)20:40
suwrook - I'm gone to play with my shadows. anyone has fglrx and compiz on kde?20:42
flipstarlopin: probably in $HOME/.vnc20:42
lopinI'm sorry, but I'm scared as hell...20:42
suwroCannon: you don't have to reboot20:43
flipstarlopin: as long as your pw is secure you dont have to ..20:43
suwroCannon: reboot is for windows ;)20:43
lopinWell, I mean I got a dialog asking permission, and I said no...20:43
suwroumount again20:43
suwroah - he left.20:43
jonathan__hm fglrx is the problem20:43
lopinBut, I'm behind a router, and I though I had that turned off...20:43
lopinI've got the two firewalls...20:43
jonathan__this is the driver that doesn't work20:43
lopinAnd most of the other traffic is going to my other computer...20:44
suwroi remeber ubuntu had a manual online - no?20:44
lopinOH SHIT! The other computer!20:44
suwroi'm out20:44
suwrodamn - gone to play AAO20:44
flipstaraao ?20:45
coggzyo Cann20:45
coggzis anyone here good with sound issues, as i have a HDA intel card, and my microphone doesn't work20:46
flipstarjonathan__: you also can use ati or radeon on xorg.conf20:46
flipstarcoggz: did you read the intelhda page ?20:46
flipstarhm checked alsamixer ?20:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:47
coggzi will do again20:47
jonathan__how do you mean this?20:47
coggzalsa mixer is turned up20:47
flipstarcoggz: no the mic in alsamixer ..20:47
Cannonstill can't write to it20:47
flipstarjonathan__: when you've problems with the fglrx driver you can try 'ati' in the xorg.xonf20:48
jonathan__doesn't work20:48
ScorpKingkonqueror crash when i open http://www.debianhelp.org/node/6719 - using kde 3.5.8. anyone else have the same problem?20:48
flipstarScorpKing: same here.. kde3.5.920:48
Cannonlol, yeo20:49
coggzhow would i tell20:49
nejodeCanon: post your /etc/fstab en : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/   ... I'll edit it for you and send it back20:49
flipstarcoggz: search microphone in alsamixer20:49
ScorpKingflipstar: :( thanks for checking. i'll use firefox then20:49
flipstarcoggz: start alsamixer in a shell and look for microphone ..20:50
coggzoh, lol20:50
flipstarjonathan__: doesn't work doesn't help ..20:51
andyho623Hey does anyone know if there is something like "stereo mix" in Kubuntu? I'm trying to record what's coming out of my speakers and mic.20:51
Cannonhow can I give my user root access?20:51
flipstarbtw im out20:51
fdovingCannon: you don't want to do that, you want to use sudo for administrative tasks.20:52
Cannoni don't, lol20:52
Cannoni want root becqause am fed up of nopt having access to the files i need20:52
FFForeverhow do i turn cron logging on?20:52
Cannonplease tell me fdoving20:53
FFForever!root > Cannon20:53
Cannonthats not what I was asking20:53
jussio1Cannon: we dont support root here. sorry.20:53
FFForeverthat is the closest you can get....20:54
coggzi can only pickup interferiance20:54
Cannonbut all the suggestions am getting for giving permissions to a folder are not working jussi01 ... is it a bug with kubuntu?20:54
nejodeCannon: ALT+F2> kdesu konqueror and you'llhave konqueror with root rights20:54
Cannonhmmm, i'll try that20:54
jussio1Cannon: do what nejodesaid, then right click the folder, properties, permissions...20:55
Cannonthat is a lil easier it's letting me change permissions of directories but not the files inside them20:58
jonathan__it simply doesn't work... black screen on startup, no errors, nothing you can do including switch to the console... The well-known problem thats not realy fixed right now...20:59
nejodeCannon: you have to mark the checkbox that says: apply changes to subdirectories and files21:02
nejode...or something like that21:03
Cannoni did :(21:03
nejode...stange, very stange...21:04
Cannoni really don't get it21:05
Cannonam doing what peeps are suggesting but still no luck21:05
jonathan__i give up :D21:05
jonathan__but i have a next question21:05
jonathan__i downloaded a program as sourcecode in tar.bz2-format.21:06
jonathan__what is the next step to install it?21:06
Daisuke_Idothat all depends on the program in question21:06
jussio1jonathan__: what program out of curiousity?21:06
DreadKnightjonathan__: decompress, browse it, and then make, and make install as far as i know21:06
nejodeCannon: you have to restart konqueror so tou can visualize the change you made... try it out and you'll see that the change stuck21:07
jussio1!compile | jonathan__21:07
ubotujonathan__: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)21:07
jonathan__i did...21:07
Cannonhalf my pragrams have froze ... gone all grey21:07
Cannonsomewhat a waste of a power ful system at the mo!21:07
Cannonugh, another one has frozen21:08
Daisuke_Idostill curious as to what program jonathan__ is looking for21:08
nejodeCannon: CNTL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart your xserver21:08
jonathan__sorry, it's a game21:08
Daisuke_Idoand this is why compiz + kde = evil21:08
Cannonlol, was just about to and they all came back at once :O21:09
Daisuke_Idothat narrows it down a tiny bit21:09
greegapt-get remove failed to remove mysql21:09
greeghow do i truly remove sql.  so when i again apt-get install it will prompt me for the password21:09
greegwhen i say truely i mean absolutly no trace left on my computer21:09
Daisuke_Idogreeg, why don't you just start it to set a password?21:10
Cannonlol, you didn't tell me i would be logged out :/21:10
greegbecause it still keeps the old password21:10
Daisuke_Idodo you know the old password?21:11
nejodegreeg: sudo apt-get --purge remove mysql21:11
puvoIn my Kubuntu, there aint coming any sound, anywhere, not in movies, not kubuntus own sounds, and not from the internet. and I dont know what to do. s:21:11
CannonZOMG it's working!21:12
Cannontime for a kip ... gn all and thanks for your help21:13
* greeg from now on shal --purge all removals21:14
jonathan__sorry, the program was already built i just had to activate the package-source...21:14
ceckohi all, will I remain bootable after resizin /boot partition?21:16
patoHi, i have trouble with my usb mouse and its using in virtual machine. I can not click on everything in virtual machine, because I will get massege to make snapshot. How can i resolve this problem. Hotkeys ? I don't know how.. Thank u very much21:16
ceckomy partitions go like this: /boot  /windowz  /  /home21:16
Daisuke_Idonice to see that amarok 1.4.9 isn't available yet :\21:17
greegthat didnt work21:17
Daisuke_Idofigured it wouldn't work21:17
greegwhy would it say upon apt-get install   -->   * Stopping MySQL database server mysqld                                                                      [ OK ]21:17
greegif it were already removed21:17
Daisuke_Idobecause just because you uninstalled it doesn't mean it wasn't still running in ram21:17
greegnor did it ask me for the password like it originally did.21:17
spantherhello dear kubuntu community ^-^21:18
Daisuke_Idogreeg, do you know the password?21:18
jussio1does anyone know how to open .pptx files?21:18
Daisuke_Idojussi01, sell your soul to MS for office 200721:18
greegDaisuke_Ido: no it was incorrectly typed21:18
spantherjussi01, powerpoint file21:18
spantherits a microsoft powerpoint file21:18
jussio1spanther: yes, i know...21:18
Daisuke_Idoit's a powerpoint file in office 2007 format, bit different21:19
* jussio1 curses at stupid teaches and their microsoft stuff21:19
Daisuke_Idoi think they're working on an import filter for OOo21:19
Daisuke_Idonot entirely sure21:19
nejodegreeg: does it ask for a new pass?21:19
greegok NOW it's NOT running in ram.  im gonna purge rmove and apt-get install again21:19
Daisuke_Idojussi01, that's just wrong for them to expect you to go out and get the latest version of software because they're too lazy to use 97/2k/xp format21:20
jussio1Daisuke_Ido: yep, correct.21:20
nejodegreeg: although most people say the contrary, there are times when it's good practice to reboot21:20
Daisuke_Idonejode, stopping a daemon can be done without rebooting21:21
jussio1and often they restart with the pc...21:21
nejode...not if you purged it21:22
greegperhalps apt-get autoremove21:22
nejodeno, that's only for useless packages21:23
greegRemoving mysql-server-5.0 ...21:23
greegRemoving mysql-client-5.0 ...21:23
nejodesudo /init.d/mysql stop21:24
nejode...sorry>> sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop21:25
nejode...or sudo /etc/init.d/mysql force-reload   after you reinstall21:27
greegi just did a apt-get -purge remove and autoremove.  what the HELL is mysql still doing in /etc/init.d/ ?21:27
Hamraim using gutsy, and in 90% of the cases i press disconnect in konversation, the program crashes , in the other 10% it does nothing, doesnt even disconnect :(21:27
greeghow do i get rid of this with reformatting my harddrive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!21:28
nejodegreeg: is the mysql init script still en /etc/init.d?21:28
greegim going to remove it.21:29
greeghopefully when reinstalling via apt-get it will prompt me for the password.  (doubt it)21:30
spirooflipstar, Jussio1: Where is that root button?21:31
patoPlease guys. Try to help me :)21:31
jussio1spiroo: on the right, there are 4 buttons...21:32
greegwhat the hell is going on here.   upon apt-get installing mysql.  why would it care if the init script is still installed or not.  whynot make a new one since im "INSTALLING" it21:32
greeginvoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found.21:32
nejode...I'm out... leaving21:33
greegonce again.  it failed to prompt me for the password.21:34
spirooJussio1: You know I am using the KDE4 version? :P21:34
greegwhy is it not making a fresh new installation.21:34
jussio1spiroo: no, as you are in the kde3 channel, if you had been in #kubuntu-kde4 ...21:34
greegwhy did it NOT make a new init script21:35
greeghence this was an installation.21:35
spirooJussio1: I can still be here even if I am using KDE4 ;)21:35
jussio1spiroo: correct. but it helps to ask questions about kde4 stuff in #kubuntu-kde4 :)21:36
greegi think linux is broke21:37
spirooJussio1: Well, sorry about that. But how do I do it manually?21:37
greegif it doesent completly install the programs21:37
greeghow do i file a bug report ?21:37
norman_hola alguien puede decirme como configurar el escritotio21:38
norman_como girar el cubo21:39
Daisuke_Idoanyway, as i was saying, nice to see that amarok 1.4.9 hasn't hit the repos yet (not a big deal, the new exaile hasn't either - both of which are bugfix releases and fix the amazon issue)21:39
jussio1!es | norman_21:39
ubotunorman_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.21:39
norman_oh sorry i didnt knew that i was on a english room21:39
norman_ok thanks21:40
norman_im new on kde and i need to know how to costumise the desktop21:40
jussio1!themes | norman_:21:42
ubotunorman_:: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy21:42
norman_ok thanks21:43
FFForeverhow do i enable cron logging21:46
greegif i just ran an apt-get --purge autoremove mysql,  why the HELL  is S19mysql S18mysql-ndb S17mysql-ndb-mgm still in /etc/rc2.d ?21:47
greegwhat the hell is going on here.21:47
Kamping_Kaiserdoes autoremove support --purge?21:47
greegno i mean i tried both21:49
greegautoremove and apt-get remove --purge21:49
greegthey failed21:49
ScorpKinggreeg: sudo aptitude purge <package>21:49
Kamping_Kaiseri dont know about aptitude, but apt-get will only purge an installed package - not an uninstalled package with left over files21:50
ScorpKingnot sure about aptitude either but that's what i use21:50
greegScorpKing: that might just do the trick.  it saw mysql on there after apt-get's  misserable attempt to remove it.21:51
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acemohow do i get kaffeine to play xvid?21:51
greegso what's apt-get's problem ?21:51
ScorpKinggreeg: sometimes aptitude does things better ;)21:51
Kamping_Kaisergreeg,  /msg dpkg why not apt-get and /msg dpkg why not aptitude21:51
fdovinggreeg: i suggest installing deborphan, and use 'deborphan --find-config|xargs dpkg -P'21:52
fdovinggreeg: if you don't want deborphan, you can use dpkg like this: dpkg -l|grep ^rc|awk '{print $2}'|xargs dpkg -P21:54
greegand whats the application of those commands ?21:54
greegto purge packages ?21:54
fdovingpurge packages with only config left.21:54
Daisuke_IdoIOW: deborphan is simpler...21:54
greegthanx folks.  i'll add those to my list of one liners21:55
acemohow do i get kaffeine to play xvid?21:56
ScorpKinggreeg: basket is a good app to keep notes like that ;)21:56
ScorpKinghiya jonathan__21:56
greeghmm basket ehh ?21:56
fdovingi like vim for things like that :)21:56
ScorpKing!info basket21:56
ubotubasket (source: basket): a multi-purpose note-taking application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2build2.1 (gutsy), package size 4854 kB, installed size 7540 kB21:56
greegemacs here21:56
jonathan__can someone tell me what this errors mean and how to solv it? :)21:56
jonathan__sorry them21:57
ScorpKingfdoving: we know - you're a pro :P ;)21:57
jonathan__i tried to install my ati drivers...21:58
fdovingScorpKing: don't need to be a pro to use .txt files :)21:59
ScorpKingfdoving: hehe.. i know but using vi needs some manpage reading though22:00
fdovingScorpKing: i can only suggest http://www.vi-improved.org/tutorial.php22:01
fdovingvery nice.22:01
fdovingkid woke up, need to go.22:02
ScorpKingfdoving: thanks. adding it to my bookmarks :) cheers22:02
norman_porfavor alguien me ayuda instalan un archivo tar.bz2?22:12
norman_necesito help22:12
ubotuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.22:12
jonathan__i'm currently making this tutorial22:13
jonathan__and i've a problem with this command: module-assistant a-i fglrx22:14
jonathan__it seems that the package "fglrx" cannot be found22:14
Kamping_Kaiser!info fglrx22:15
ubotuPackage fglrx does not exist in gutsy22:15
Kamping_Kaiser!find fglrx22:15
ubotuFound: fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev, fglrx-kernel-source22:15
Kamping_Kaiser!find fglrx hardy22:15
ubotuFound: fglrx-amdcccle, fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev, fglrx-kernel-source22:15
Kamping_Kaiserjonathan__, ^^^22:15
jonathan__hm and which one of that must i install?22:16
jonathan__the fglrx-kernel-source?22:16
Kamping_Kaiserprobably xorg-driver-fglrx22:16
eagles0513875jonathan__: r u working on writing a wiki22:16
ubotuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:16
Kamping_Kaiserhm. that wasnt helpful22:17
acemowhat do i need to install to get xvid to work?22:17
jonathan__which one now? :D22:17
Kamping_Kaiser!info xorg-driver-fglrx22:17
ubotuxorg-driver-fglrx (source: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 ( Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.37.6+ (gutsy), package size 8357 kB, installed size 22472 kB22:17
jonathan__ok thanks22:18
Kamping_Kaiserjonathan__, looks like installing xorg-driver-fglrx would do the job :)22:18
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:18
Kamping_Kaiseracemo, ^^^22:18
ceckohi all, will I remain bootable after resizin /boot partition?22:18
ceckomy partitions go like this: /boot  /windowz  /  /home22:18
Kamping_Kaiseras long as you keep your data intact22:19
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jonathan__hadn't woked, same error like before22:20
jonathan__i'm sure i installed the package22:20
* Kamping_Kaiser looks22:21
jonathan__sorry, hand't read your post22:22
jonathan__the thing is that i installed the driver but the tutorial says i must buld a module or someting like that22:22
jonathan__module-assistant a-i fglrx22:23
jonathan__can i leave it out when i installed the deb-package for the fglrx-driver?22:23
acemooh god lol.. they switched from xvid to kvm.. no wonder i coulnt play the "xvid"22:23
Kamping_Kaiserjonathan__, perhaps you should ask #ubuntu-de or #kubuntu-de (the latter probably). i'm /way/ to out of it to translate the tutorial :)22:24
jonathan__oh shit sorry, forgot that the tutorial is german22:25
Kamping_Kaiserno worries. usually i'd try, but... its 7am, and i didnt sleep last night ;)22:25
veloxidis still one of the guys here, who helped me with my speedstepping problem?22:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:26
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jonathan__ik i gonna give it a try22:28
jonathan__right then22:29
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acemohow can i play kvm on kubuntu?22:31
ScorpKingacemo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM22:36
* nonewmsgs kvm22:36
nonewmsgswhat is that22:36
acemoScorpKing: sorry.. i ment MKV22:36
acemoScorpKing: might found something already tho22:37
ScorpKingnonewmsgs: The Kernel Virtual Machine or a KVM switch. google it ;)22:37
ScorpKingacemo: np. i see some info on the ubuntu forums22:39
acemoohh wait lets ask the bot first22:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:39
Daisuke_Idoacemo, let me guess...  video will play, but not sound?22:40
acemoactually, no it gives an error and wont play at all22:40
Daisuke_Idoin mplayer or...22:41
acemokaffeine and vlc22:41
Daisuke_Ido!search matroska22:41
Daisuke_Idothat was helpful22:41
acemoindeed :)22:41
acemogetting these 2 errors: 11:41:18 PM: xine: couldn't find demux for >file:///home/acemo/Movies/[DB]_Naruto_Shippuuden_053_[2DCC2764].avi< 11:41:18 PM: xine: found input plugin : file input plugin22:42
veloxidhave a problem with the speedstepping of my centrino-m 2ghz prozessor, it is always steped on 600mhz, althought the cpu-load is 100%22:42
acemoDaisuke_Ido: got that one installed already22:43
veloxidis here some one who can help me with that prob?22:44
TimSbeagled-helper is using 80% of my system resoursces22:46
TimSWhat is it?22:46
TimSOh, I'm guessing its part of Beagle22:46
JoshOvkii have a problem with kernal version 2.6.24-16 and madwifi, anyone know of any difficulties in using them together or how to resolve it?22:49
nonewmsgshow do you know it's a kernal konflict?22:49
ScorpKingacemo: http://www.matroska.org/ might be usefull22:50
JoshOvkibecause everything was working fine untill i did a kernal update22:50
TimSIs there any way to find out what proccess is accessing my HD at the moment?22:50
nonewmsgsJoshOvki: in grub menu you can select older kernal to verify it again22:50
nonewmsgsdoes that work22:50
JoshOvkinonewmsgs: i tryed to use the older kernal, but once i had installed the kernal update, i did a reinstall of madwifi, now it wont reinstall again with the lesser kernal version22:51
ScorpKingacemo: looks like you have to install libmatroska and libebml22:52
mtoscanoHi. I'm trying to get the kernel headers in hardy...22:53
mtoscano...when I do "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`"22:53
mtoscano...I get the error: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.24-15-generic22:53
acemoScorpKing: Reading state information... Done libmatroska0 is already the newest version. libebml0 is already the newest version. libebml0 set to manual installed.22:53
acemoScorpKing: still doesnt works22:53
JoshOvkinonewmsgs: i also stumbled across this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/21665822:53
* JoshOvki thanks god for copper cable22:54
mtoscanoAnybody know how I can avoid that error?22:54
ScorpKingacemo: that suck22:54
acemoScorpKing: indeed :)22:54
ScorpKingacemo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398706 is the only usefull thing i see but i don't think that will help you much22:55
ScorpKingbedtime for me. nite guys22:59
acemoScorpKing: giving up... going to reboot on windows and play22:59
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Kamping_Kaiserbed time. bah23:00
merkekeim having trouble finding my wireless23:01
merkekene 1 can help?23:01
merkekei had it hooked up the first time. then it didnt work so i re-installed kubuntu and i still cant find it23:02
Kamping_Kaiser"didnt work" "trouble"?23:03
Kamping_Kaiserwhat does that mean?23:03
merkekeit wont find my wireless23:04
merkekeim having troubles finding it23:04
AzzcoDoes Gutsy fully support KDE 3.5.9?23:07
AzzcoI can only  find this page and it says "Security and other updates may not be applied promptly." http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-359.php23:11
westy101adept manager keeps crashing says something else is using it23:24
* maduser sigh sudo dpkg --configure -a23:24
Daisuke_Idois there an update going on?23:24
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »23:25
maduserhey Daisuke_Ido I found your song23:25
maduseron the net23:25
westy101well there was a i had a fatal system error and it shutdown23:25
Daisuke_Idoerm...  which?23:25
maduserduk koo kim?23:25
Daisuke_Idooh wait...  acoustic duk koo kim23:25
westy101cpu overload23:25
Daisuke_Idofrom 'Nights'23:25
westy101sound system  caused cpu overload23:26
maduserurl is on offtopic23:26
_myrtille_how come wine is officially version 0.9.59 but gutsy still uses 0.9.4623:26
aa  i can't connect to efnet but i can connect here. where's the problem?23:26
_myrtille_are there incompatibilities one should know about23:27
_myrtille_or could i just install the newer version manually?23:27
adz21c_myrtille_: u can get the latest version from winehq.com23:27
Kamping_Kaiser_myrtille_, because when gutsy was released 0.9.46 was the latest version23:27
Kamping_Kaiseraa, good question. what is the problem?23:27
adz21c_myrtille_: they have a repo where they put a build of each version they release23:27
aafinally worked. took about 15 minutes though, Kamping_Kaiser23:27
_myrtille_thx :) i'll have a look23:28
westy101thank guys23:28
Roby718Welcome to the #rcompany Click here--> #rcompany <-- to enter the chat!! (Rserver)23:28
JucatoRoby718: hm?23:28
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westy101is there a howto guide for the nvidia driver?23:29
Daisuke_Idowesty101, system settings > restricted drivers > tick the little box.23:29
Daisuke_Idothere you are, a howto23:29
JucatoRmod: please do not spam channel ads23:30
RmodRmod: autotyper: unknown23:30
Daisuke_Idoif you by chance need the newest (unsupported chipset or something to that effect)...23:31
ubotuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto23:31
RmodLeaving channel23:31
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madexany ideas on how to get the correct refresh rate on my TV23:36
madexI wish to optimise it :D23:37
madexI really want to download another nvidia driver23:38
madexmaybe a driver for my TV23:38
Daisuke_Idoyou don't install a driver for each23:39
Daisuke_Idothat's not how it works23:39
madexmaybe i didnt say properly :/23:39
madextheres something not quite right23:39
AzzcoHave you been in the "nvidia-settings"?23:40
madexfor example, a lower resolution is 51 hz for example23:40
madexI'm running a media PC on my 42" lcd tv23:40
madexcant quite put my finger on it :/23:41
lufthanza_I need a bit of help with apt23:41
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lufthanza_I need someone who is very experienced with it23:41
madexkubuntu > ubuntu23:41
Azzcolufthanza_: you might want to describe your problem?23:42
lufthanza_for some reason, my /var/lib/dpkg/status file got corrupted, there is a hole in it with scrambled data.23:42
Kamping_Kaiserlufthanza_, you dont know you need experiance until you ask :)23:42
lufthanza_of course, this is messing up apt badly, so i deleted it and rolled status-old into it's place23:43
lufthanza_was this the right course of action?23:43
Kamping_Kaiserprobably. how did you break the system?23:44
lufthanza_Kamping_Kaiser: I don't know exactly what caused it to be corrupt, but sometimes my computer fails to shutdown properly and doesn't unmount it's fs properly, so I think that might have done it.23:46
Strangeletwhat command could I use to convert a load of files in a directory from uppercase to lowercase?23:46
Kamping_KaiserStrangelet, try #bash23:46
Kamping_Kaiserthe bot there is quite helpful23:47
StrangeletKamping_Kaiser: Oh! Thank you!23:47
user1what are the default ports for ktorrent?      port:       and udp tracker port:    ?23:49

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