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secretlondonapport is taking 90% of my cpu, weird..00:01
Kill_Xsecretlondon: seems as if it's collecting a crashdump00:02
secretlondonyeah but its not doing anything00:02
secretlondon(visibly)00:02
Kill_Xwait a bit, sometimes it takes quite a while00:02
secretlondonoh its now apport-gtk00:02
secretlondoni guess something is happening ;)00:03
Kill_X;)00:03
secretlondonit was a firefox crash (although I'd already closed firefox)00:03
secretlondonI can judge computer resources by fan speed - I barely need to look at system monitor ;)00:04
Kill_Xanyone wants to have a look on #216999 ? Something really odd is going on with compiz-plugins @ 8.04 :o00:04
secretlondonI don't have any machines capable of running compiz :(00:05
secretlondonbug #21699900:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 216999 in compiz-plugins "Decoration Plugin: Window shadow color is not displayed as set in plugin properties" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21699900:06
Kill_Xgot this weird bug00:07
Kill_Xwindow shadows are yellow or pink00:07
secretlondonyeah I read, I've just said you should add a screenshot00:08
Kill_Xyepp I'm on it00:08
Kill_Xgreat, now I've got another case00:09
Kill_Xno window-shadows at all00:09
Kill_Xbut all menushadows took over the pink one's :)00:10
Kill_Xbe right back00:10
greg-gif I see a bug with a .crash report attached, could I just download that and double click on it to report it to LP?00:10
secretlondongreg-g think so00:11
greg-gok, I did, but it didn't do anything after it was uploading to LP.  how did it know who to report it as?00:11
greg-gbug 11166300:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 111663 in mono "Doing nothing." [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11166300:12
secretlondonit's reported as the person logged in00:14
greg-glogged in where?  I mean, I double clicked, apport asked if I wanted to report it, I click yes, then it was uploading information to LP, but then nothing.00:15
secretlondonbut it asks you for comments etc, it opens a new tab in firefox00:15
greg-git must not have... I'll try it again00:16
secretlondonis your default browser set up okay? I've had problems as they haven't updated the link to it when the directory has changed because of the change in beta number00:17
greg-gI closed firefox to see what happens this time00:17
greg-gi'm in gutsy right now actually, so that should be ok I think00:18
greg-gok, yeah, it finished uploading and nothing happened00:19
secretlondonweird00:20
secretlondonit's supposed to open a browser page00:20
greg-gyeah, I think I've done it before00:21
* greg-g is confused00:21
secretlondononce my stupidly large fishfox core dump has finished uploading I'll have a go00:24
secretlondonfirefox00:24
* secretlondon has no idea where fishfox came from00:24
greg-ghaha, I want to see a fishfox00:24
secretlondonoh i've just got 502 bad gateway from apport00:24
greg-ginteresting00:24
secretlondoni'm trying to upload the mono one now00:26
greg-gthanks secretlondon00:27
Kill_Xk, updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/21699900:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 216999 in compiz-plugins "Decoration Plugin: Window shadow color is not displayed as set in plugin properties" [Undecided,New]00:29
Kill_Xgot the screenshots online00:30
secretlondongreg-g bug #21701200:30
ubotuLaunchpad bug 217012 in mono "mono crashed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21701200:30
secretlondonon edgy00:30
greg-gsecretlondon: aweseome, thanks!00:31
secretlondonI wonder if apport can handle stuff that old00:31
RAOFsecretlondon: Apport can't really handle mono :(00:32
RAOFBecause the really interesting part is generally in the managed backtrace, which apport (certianly circa Edgy) throws away.00:33
greg-gI was hoping it would be able to find a duplicate for me :)00:33
secretlondonwell its a crash file, probably not from apport. I've downloaded from the bug and uploaded using hardy apport00:34
secretlondonI think Kathy's comment is random, and unconnected to mono00:35
secretlondonas she's not the original reporter00:35
greg-gsecretlondon: good catch :)00:36
greg-gwhoops00:36
secretlondonnight01:28
Kill_Xhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/216891 <-- bug or feature? :o01:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 216891 in ubuntu "sudo cpu on shh -X in ubuntu 8.4" [Undecided,Confirmed]01:28
Kill_Xrepost: 216891, any comments?01:33
Kill_Xhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/21689101:34
ubotuLaunchpad bug 216891 in ubuntu "executing a sudo command over a "ssh -X" connection 2 times in row in background results in massive CPU usage" [Undecided,Confirmed]01:34
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hyperairI'd like to raise this issue: Bug #18585405:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 185854 in gnome-system-tools "Setting static IP in Network Settings doesn't produce correct data" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18585405:11
hyperairit's where gnome-system-tools does not add a "auto <iface>" line to /etc/network/interfaces after configuring05:12
hyperairthere's a patch and a deb compiled with the patch there already, so is there any way the fix could make it to hardy?05:12
hyperairotherwise manual configuration of network will be broken when hardy finally gets released05:13
greg-ghyperair: do you happen to know when it was declined for Hardy by pedro?05:43
greg-gbut, the Sponsors for Main are subscribed, so the people who are able to do the inclusion are now informed.05:44
greg-ghyperair: and best place to ask if a certain fix will be in hardy is #ubuntu-devel05:44
hyperairalright i'll go05:44
hyperairthanks for the info05:44
hyperairand no i don't know when it was declined for hardy05:44
greg-gno worries, hope it works out05:44
hyperairbut it was sometime earlier05:44
greg-gok, I would mention that when you talk to someone in -devel05:45
hyperair?05:45
hyperairah05:46
hyperairokay05:46
greg-g"I would mention that it was declined a while ago, possibly before the debdiff was created" < is a clearer way of saying what I said05:48
Arbyany opinions on bug 217093?06:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 217093 in update-manager "[Hardy] java in firefox fails after update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21709306:39
ArbyI'm not convinced it belongs to update-manager06:39
Arbybut where does it belong?06:39
Arbyjava, firefox?06:39
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DOOM_NXgood morning :)08:33
andre_can someone reproduce http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527538 in evolution? i can't in gnome svn trunk so i wonder whether it's downstream... :-/09:36
ubotuGnome bug 527538 in BugBuddyBugs "BCC account settings not working" [Normal,Unconfirmed]09:36
seb128andre_: I doubt it's downstream, we don't patch evolution09:38
andre_yeah, i expected an answer like that :)09:38
andre_k, i should find more people running 2.22.x on other distros then....09:38
seb128andre_: similar bug, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27405209:39
ubotuGnome bug 274052 in Mailer "BCC (and signature) ignored when starting from command line" [Normal,Reopened]09:39
seb128andre_: maybe those guys start the composer directly?09:40
seb128andre_: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=502913 comes from mandriva09:43
ubotuGnome bug 502913 in Mailer "Always carbon-copy (cc) option does not work anymore" [Normal,New]09:43
andre_hmm. seems like i should investigate. thanks for the pointers :)09:44
seb128andre_: the new one has details on how to trigger it09:44
seb128andre_: it says it's specific to some accounts, etc09:44
rchfbeen digging around for a place to mention my Hardy Heron bug.  Should I do it on #ubuntu-bugs-announce (no one there) or is there a web page somewhere?10:35
james_wrchf: here is fine10:36
rchfthx10:36
james_whowever mentioning bugs isn't guaranteed to get them fixed10:37
rchf:-))))10:37
rchfHardy Heron Beta does not install an ethernet driver to run a Dell e1705 laptop's ethernet or 802.11b devices.  Ubuntu 7 (last version) does install the needed ethernet driver.10:38
rchfalso there is no option for a 1440x900 screen in any Ubuntu distribution.10:39
james_whave you reported these bugs to launchpad?10:39
rchfI just found launchpad but it did not look promising with two subscribers (maybe I found the wrong page?).10:40
james_wcan you give the bug number please?10:40
rchfI did not report the bug at launchpad bec it did not look like the right place - I'll go see what URL seems to be a reporting interface (suggestions welcome).10:42
james_wwell, what driver/chipset is the ethernet card?10:42
rchfbroadcom10:43
rchfI'll look for more info10:43
james_wand if you start the "Hardware Drivers" program is it listed?10:43
james_w(System->Administration)10:44
rchflooking thanks....10:44
rchfsince I replaced Ubuntu 8 with Ubuntu 7 on the machine in question I don't know that I can answer your question exactly.  Error may have been mine.  Seems there is a "System->Administration->Restricted Hardware Drivers" page now (I am used to Ubuntu 6.10 LTS), which shows two unused restricted drivers.  The drivers for the "Broadcom 43xx chipset family" has an unchecked option.  The "ATI accelerated graphics driver" is also unchecked10:49
rchf.  This is the status on Ubuntu 7.  I will reinstall Ubuntu 8 and see if perhaps this is what I need to do to get the ethernet card working on that OS and then return.10:49
rchfthat will take a "while" though.10:49
rchfmaybe a few days.  Thanks.10:50
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pschulz01Hello.. wwhat category in the gnome bugzilla does the 'intlclock' come under?12:25
seb128pschulz01: what do you call "intlclock"?12:27
pochupschulz01: gnome-panel12:43
pochumorning seb :)12:44
seb128hey pochu12:44
pschulz01pochu:12:47
pschulz01pochu: I love the new intlclock.. except it seems to be anckored on the left.. hmm interesting..12:51
pschulz01The installed Hardy desktop is OK.. might just be in the livecd/installer.12:53
IulianHeya13:13
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JohnPhysAre there plans to include the fix to bug #195052 in hardy, even though hardy is now in final freeze?15:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 195052 in inkscape "Latex formula does not work on Ubuntu Hardy" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19505215:17
seb128JohnPhys: not likely in the current state, somebody should open an ubuntu task and subscribe the sponsor team to it15:29
secretlondonJohnPhys, no idea, it'll need someone to do some work on it15:29
greg-gJohnPhys: it appears there is no task against the Ubuntu package of inkscape.  It appears that the patch should be committed in the .46 branch, which is what is in Hardy15:30
JohnPhysThanks for the info, though I have to admit I find it a bit confusing, as the bug is labeled "fix released" in the "inkscape" branch of 0.46, so I guess the patch just needs to be pulled over to the hardy repos?15:32
greg-gyeah, that is confusing, according to this: https://code.launchpad.net/inkscape/main .46 was released March 11, and the version in hardy is from April 7 (from: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inkscape/0.46-0ubuntu215:34
greg-gbut the comment from (I assume) a dev saying it was in .46 "I committed this to trunk and 046_release_branch as well." was on April 815:35
JohnPhysYeah, I figured it might take some time to "trickle in", but then I read about the feature freeze, so I thought I should ask.  I'm not a dev, and know painfully little about making debdiffs and such, but this is a "showstopper" bug for me (LaTeX + inkscape = good thesis diagrams :) ), so I was hoping if I asked nicely a kind dev would get this uploaded.  How can I find out who maintains inkscape in ubuntu?15:38
greg-gpedro_: by default are we supposed to close crash reports that fail retraces?15:39
pedro_greg-g: on firefox, yes15:39
greg-gpedro_: ok, thanks15:39
pedro_you're welcome15:39
secretlondonJohnPhys, it'll say who maintains it on launchpad (somewhere)15:44
JohnPhyssecretlondon:  It says "Maintainer:  Ubuntu Core Developers".  I'm hoping to avoid sending a message to hundreds of people if sending a message to 1 will do the job :)15:46
james_wone of the inkscape devs is also an Ubuntu core-dev15:46
greg-gpedro_: should I add you response to the wiki page Bugs/Responses for "Firefox crash report that fails backtrace"?15:46
secretlondonmaybe Bryce Harrington15:46
greg-gs/you/your/15:46
pedro_greg-g: sure, that'd be nice :-)15:46
greg-ggot it :)15:46
pedro_thanks you15:46
secretlondonIn fact I think a few ubuntu devs are involved in inkscape upstream15:47
secretlondonit was last uploaded by Kees Cook15:47
JohnPhyssecretlondon:  Ah, ok.  He's commented on an inkscape bug I filed (#205667) and helped me out with obtaining a backtrace, maybe he'll be able to help.15:47
secretlondonthat bug is high priority actually15:49
JohnPhyssecretlondon: which one?  Bug #205667 ?15:49
secretlondonJohnPhys, he says he's an inkscape dev, and his irc name is bryyce15:49
ubotuLaunchpad bug 205667 in inkscape "Inkscape crashes when using 3d box after attempting to render latex, gears, tree, barcode, maybe others." [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20566715:49
secretlondonJohnPhys, yep, that one15:49
secretlondonhe's on pst though, utc -715:50
secretlondonI'd try him first15:50
JohnPhyssecretlondon:  Thanks.  I actually care more about #195052 though, as I don't plan to use that 3d box much :)  I just discovered 205667 accidentally when testing the Latex stuff.15:51
JohnPhysThanks everyone for your time and help, it's very much appreciated!15:52
secretlondonJohnPhys, sure. It could be an easy patch, but as he knows the program intimately..15:52
JohnPhysyeah, to my untrained eye it looks like it's just replacing a python script that is specific to that task only, so I think it's a pretty low risk patch.15:53
JohnPhystime to boot to hardy though15:54
greg-gpedro_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses  "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses"15:57
greg-germ, "Firefox crash report that fails retrace"15:57
pedro_greg-g: rock on!15:58
qenseI can't find anything in the error logs of bug 216272 It seems like kern.log isn't complete though.15:59
ubotuLaunchpad bug 216272 in hal "internal error failed to initialize HAL" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21627215:59
qenseany thoughts on what to do next?15:59
greg-gno problem, it was mainly for my future reference. oh, and the greater good of course ;)15:59
greg-gqense: in what way is kern.log not complete?16:01
qenseit looks like it's cut off16:01
greg-gat the end?16:01
qenseyes16:01
qenseand there is nothing of 10:03, the time at which he tried to run hal in verbose mode16:02
greg-ggotcha16:05
greg-gcan't hurt to ask them I suppose16:05
qenseI think I'll ask him if he really runs hal with sudo, since it seems like it can't set the gruoup id because of its permissions16:06
greg-gpedro_: just making sure: so basically any firefox bug with the tag "apport-failed-retrace" should be set to invalid?  just making sure it is that straight forward.  (this assumes there hasn't been any additional helpful information added to the bug of course)16:09
pedro_greg-g: yeah, unless it's a duplicate which should be marked as such16:10
greg-gright16:10
greg-gthanks16:10
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greg-gpedro_: please advise, bug 21708916:39
ubotuBug 217089 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/217089 is private16:39
pedro_greg-g: there's a better trace on bug 209372 , looks like a dup of it16:41
ubotuBug 209372 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/209372 is private16:42
greg-gpedro_: oh yeah, thats the one i forgot to mark a dupilcate :(16:42
pedro_no need to re-retrace it16:42
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pochuseb128, james_w: what have you decided regarding bug 215714? I wonder if it's too late for this change. If you are going to change it, please let me know so I can have a phatch package ready for upload (and an exception granted)17:26
ubotuLaunchpad bug 215714 in nautilus-python "The path for python extensions should reflect the 2.0 api" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21571417:26
bddebianBoo17:39
secretlondonhi bddebian17:40
bddebianHello secretlondon17:40
secretlondoncould someone try and confirm bug #188534 for me?17:55
ubotuLaunchpad bug 188534 in nano "[hardy] nano Error reading ~/.nano_history: Permission denied" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18853417:55
secretlondonyou should just open it from the command line and get an error17:56
pochusecretlondon: I don't have that file... so no error18:09
pochu(I don't use nano)18:09
secretlondonokay, if you open nano again do you get the error?18:09
secretlondonsomething is writing the history file with root ro perms18:10
secretlondonbut I'm surprised there aren't more reports18:10
pochuI've created ~/foo with nano and I still don't have that file18:10
secretlondonoh weird18:11
* secretlondon scratches her head18:11
secretlondonpochu thanks18:11
hggdhwhat about running 'sudo nano xxx'?18:13
hggdhyou are still under your home dir18:13
hggdhand now root has written the file18:13
hggdhBTW -- secretlondon -- Andre, upstream, states he also has the e-d-s loop problem. Good thing for us, he will help drive it18:14
secretlondonyeah but I'd rather not run under sudo if I don't need to, and I was trying to work out how to fix the bug18:14
secretlondonhggdh I read that :)18:15
hggdhah, he is also here :-)18:15
secretlondonI prob didn't explain it properly, it only complains when run without root perms, as the history file seems to be unreadable for a normal user18:16
zxc`I guys I encountered some problems w/ audio using snd_hda intel18:16
zxc`looking on launchpad I saw that this is a note bug but i didn't find a solution18:16
hggdhwell, the only way a file gets owned by somebody else is somebody else created/wrote to it18:16
secretlondonhggdh, nano should be able to cope with being run as a user and with sudo without failing though. Maybe it does this if the first time it is run it is run with sudo18:17
hggdhyes, may be indeed18:17
secretlondongoogle finds mentions of this going back to 06, it's new to me in hardy, but  it appears to have existed before18:18
hggdhdo you have a .nanorc?18:19
secretlondonnot in ~18:19
andre_hggdh: well, i also run into the e-a-n issue (though not already when logging in to the desktop but when starting evo). tried to get traces, but they were not useful...18:20
thekornsecretlondon, I can reproduce your nano bug18:20
secretlondonthe korn great18:20
hggdhhi andre_18:20
thekornsecretlondon, do you have a bug number, so I can add the steps to reproduce it?18:21
secretlondonandre_ that sounds like a different thing. This is e-d-s looping when gnome starts18:21
secretlondonthekorn bug #18853418:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 188534 in nano "[hardy] nano Error reading ~/.nano_history: Permission denied" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18853418:21
andre_hmm18:21
hggdhandre_: yes, I saw that, and I was happy (well, not that somebody else had it, but because someone that is heard had it)18:21
hggdhoops18:21
thekornsecretlondon, thanks18:21
andre_time will tell if it's the same issue18:22
hggdhandre_: are you also running Hardy?18:22
* secretlondon nods. 18:22
secretlondonI tried killing e-a-n today and it did kill e-d-s again18:22
hggdhwhich, for me, means it is very early in the startup...18:22
andre_hggdh: no, not running ubuntu here18:23
hggdhwhat/what version? Perhaps there they would have reported it already18:23
andre_svn trunk18:24
hggdhah. A bit more up-to-date, then ;-)18:24
secretlondonthekorn: thanks18:30
thekornsecretlondon, you are welcome18:30
hggd1darn, my 24-hour internet at the hotel just ended :-(18:32
hggd1another 15 euros down the drain18:33
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thekornmy clock/weather applet in the top right corner of the panel freezes when I click on it, against which package should bugs be filed?18:45
secretlondongnome-applets?18:50
thekornright, found it18:51
thekornI think it should be gnome-panel18:51
bdmurrayThat's where I recall seeing them before18:52
Gninegnome-panel calendar - weather applet panel display icon does not show on panel - 8.04 64bit 2.6.24-16-generic18:58
james_wpochu: yeah, I wan't to get it in, afflux was working on a fix.18:59
james_wpochu: sistpoty's comment confuses me slightly, does this have motu-release approval? Does it not need it?19:01
pranathekorn: I noticed that last night too... seems to be blocked on a futex call.19:02
thekornprana, do you know if there is an open bugreport,19:03
thekornor if some debugging is needed19:03
pranathekorn: i didn't check... i restarted the panel and it seemed to go away... and it's sort of working right now.19:04
pranathekorn: it might also have something to do with evolution (which the applet consults with to see if there are any appointments for the day.)19:04
thekornrestarting the panel doe not help for me, still reproducable19:05
thekornah ok, evolution might be the point, let's check this19:05
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pranayeah, while it's hanging, try "ps aux | grep evo"19:06
* prana also hasn't logged in/out for a few days, despite taking various updates.19:06
thekornprana, yeah, if i turn off the google calendar plugin in evolution, everything works fine19:07
pranathekorn: ah... hm. yes, i have that enabled too. it looked so cool :-)19:08
Arbymvo: ping?19:08
pranainterestingly the google calendar events don't seem to show up in the list of appointments either.19:09
Arbymvo: what's your opinion on bug 19209819:09
ubotuLaunchpad bug 192098 in update-manager "update-manager confused about package origins" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19209819:09
pranathey make the day bold but don't show up as appointments.19:09
mvoArby: hello! I wonder if the version of the local installed one and the version of the remote one are identical19:16
mvoArby: that is a case where apt gets easily confused, it expects that two identical versions are identical packages19:16
Arbymvo: given that it's a home made package is it update-managers problem?19:17
mvoArby: I would say no, also it *might* be wishlist/low because could handle the situation better - but then I think we have (currently) more pressing issues :)19:18
Arbyoh absolutely19:20
ArbyI'm jut working through trying to clean up the 'New' bug list19:20
ArbyI'll mark it as wishlist/low then19:21
Arbymvo: while we're on the subject, what is your preferred work flow for bugs?19:21
Arbythere are a lot of bugs with status high/medium19:22
Arbybut still marked new19:22
ArbyI'd prefer to work in a way that makes it easiest for you to fix down the line19:22
Gninebug 21619719:24
ubotuLaunchpad bug 216197 in gnome-panel "no weather information in gnome panel" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21619719:24
Gninemeh19:24
Gninethe icon was there 2 days ago, though..19:26
james_wsorry for asking again, but is bug 215751 visible to anyone in bugsquad yet?19:29
ubotuBug 215751 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/215751 is private19:29
Arbyjames_w: I can read it19:30
james_wArby: cool, could you do your thing so that I would be able to work on it please?19:30
Arbyerm, what thing would that be?19:31
Arbyprivate bugs are a new thing and I've been away for a while19:31
james_wI don't know the process, sorry.19:32
ArbyI've found a check box that says 'this bug should be private'19:32
james_wI thought apport bugs were private to start with as they may contain private data, so someone could check for that and then make them public19:32
bdmurrayArby: you'll want to look for private information in the crash report first19:32
james_whi bdmurray19:33
Arbybdmurray: ok, checking19:33
Arbyprivate == passwords etc yes?19:33
bdmurrayThis one has been retracted successfully so you there is no coredump to look at19:33
bdmurrayArby: that's correct - passwords, financial account information etc....19:34
Arbyso is it only the coredump that would contain sensitive info?19:35
bdmurrayno, the stacktrace could also so you that should be checked19:35
Arbychecked that, nothing obvious19:36
bdmurrayThen you can unmark it as private19:36
bdmurrayhi james_w19:37
Arbybdmurray: thanks19:37
ArbyI've learnt something new today19:37
Arbyjames_w: done19:38
james_wthanks team19:38
Arbymvo: what are your thoughts on bug 95327?19:51
ubotuLaunchpad bug 95327 in update-manager "Modal dialogs appear on the current workspace and not on the one of the parent application" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/9532719:51
Arbycan probably be closed, just needs an yes or no from you19:52
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ramviHow can I help out solve bug #217408 ?20:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 217408 in ubuntu "No audio out on Macbook Pro (1st edition 17")" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21740820:37
ramviShould I attach some files?20:37
bdmurrayramvi: look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems20:38
ramvibdmurray: I just need to know what logs you need20:39
bdmurrayramvi: and it says that on that page in the "Reporting Sound Bugs" part20:40
bdmurrayjames_w: Could you add a test case section to the description of bug 153625?20:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 153625 in ca-certificates "update-ca-certificates error. ca-certificates.crt empty (with pt_BR locale)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15362520:41
pochujames_w: he's delegating the approval on the Desktop Team (that is, seb128)20:44
james_wpochu: ah, ok, thanks. I'll talk to seb tomorrow.21:23
james_wbdmurray: you mean a way to reproduce, or the testing that should be done when verifying the SRU?21:24
bdmurrayjames_w: right, a way to recreate the bug and verfiy it is fixed21:25
james_wbdmurray: sure, can it wait until tomorrow?21:26
bdmurrayjames_w: of course, the test case just helps getting the fix verified.  You can see an example in bug 21197821:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 211978 in update-manager "do-release-upgrade -d doesn't work immediately after running do-release-upgrade" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21197821:27
james_wbdmurray: ah, thanks for the example. I'll do it first thing tomorrow. I don't think wine and SRU verification go well together21:32
bdmurrayjames_w: nope, not that well. ;)21:34
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secretlondonwhat package should usb storage issues be filed against?22:40
secretlondonlooks like a mount issue22:40
secretlondonbug #21250222:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 212502 in ubuntu "Old mountpoints are no longer removed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21250222:40
brookiemonstaAnybody here know anything about the missing pand binary in the latest bluez-utils packages?23:07

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