| LjL | Nafallo, ugh. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Nafallo | yea. I think something like that now... | 00:00 |
| no0tic | Nafallo, argh | 00:01 |
| RoAkSoAx | lol | 00:04 |
| Seeker` | Nafallo: I believe the correct phrase is "OMG! MY EYES!! THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!" | 00:05 |
| RoAkSoAx | does anyone know why botijo is not around? | 00:05 |
| Nafallo | Seeker`: naah. I'm pretty openminded. not quite that openminded, but still :-) | 00:05 |
| LjL | RoAkSoAx: jpatrick might | 00:06 |
| RoAkSoAx | LjL, i have seen him away for a couple of days , that why i was asking xD | 00:07 |
| LjL | well, i don't know :| | 00:08 |
| RoAkSoAx | ok, np xD | 00:10 |
| LjL | raptoid, now there is still a couple of things you should do (or if you want, i guess i can do them for you) | 00:14 |
| LjL | 1) change https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat so that it mentions the right channel and the right contact | 00:14 |
| LjL | 2) mail admin at ubuntu-eu dot org and ask them to move locobot_1 from #ubuntu.tr to #ubuntu-tr | 00:14 |
| LjL | (yes, i know it has already moved, but they should still set it up to join the right channel) | 00:15 |
| LjL | ah raptoid, there was another thing you asked me but i'm not sure what you meant | 00:21 |
| LjL | was that how to obtain an ubuntu/member/ cloak? | 00:21 |
| heartsmagic | hello | 00:51 |
| LjL | hi heartsmagic | 00:51 |
| LjL | i've just talked to raptoid some minutes ago, as we moved #ubuntu.tr to #ubuntu-tr, since #ubuntu.tr is not the correct naming for an official LoCo channel, and i believed that they represented the turkish LoCo team, as the channel is listed on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC and contained an official LoCoBot | 00:52 |
| LjL | it would seem now that the official LoCo team for Turkey is another, however | 00:52 |
| LjL | could you clarify? | 00:52 |
| heartsmagic | yes, now the team is different | 00:53 |
| heartsmagic | none of the old stuff are with us | 00:53 |
| heartsmagic | s/stuff/staff | 00:54 |
| LjL | heartsmagic, uhm, i see... the channels you're using, however, aren't in the namespace for LoCo channels... also, i see your team listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList as an Approved team, is that correct? | 00:55 |
| heartsmagic | yes correct | 00:55 |
| heartsmagic | and we know our channel names are not suitable | 00:55 |
| LjL | heartsmagic, do you remember when the team was approved, roughly? | 00:57 |
| LjL | and if i may know... what relationships are you in with the #ubuntu.tr people? | 00:57 |
| heartsmagic | approximately one month ago | 00:58 |
| heartsmagic | LjL: i know _paco_ , he said they want to transfer the channel to us, but i dont know the last situation | 00:58 |
| heartsmagic | he is online right now, i asked, if he answered i'll tell you | 00:59 |
| LjL | cool | 01:02 |
| LjL | was the approval decided during the CC meeting of 21 february? | 01:02 |
| heartsmagic | yeah LjL prolly | 01:02 |
| heartsmagic | ok he answered | 01:02 |
| heartsmagic | should i invite him here? | 01:02 |
| LjL | feel free to invite him here, yes | 01:02 |
| heartsmagic | hmm, i think they want to continue as the owner of the channel | 01:04 |
| LjL | oh, i see ekovanci is online, could you invite? | 01:07 |
| heartsmagic | ok | 01:08 |
| heartsmagic | ok LjL i'll be the interpreter | 01:09 |
| LjL | hello ekovanci | 01:09 |
| LjL | ah thanks | 01:09 |
| ekovanci | hello LjL | 01:09 |
| heartsmagic | LjL: ekovanci knows the situation | 01:09 |
| LjL | i'd like to know in which CC meeting the team was approved, i don't see it in the february logs... | 01:10 |
| heartsmagic | ok, he thinks it is approximately one month, like me | 01:11 |
| LjL | don't remember the day of the meeting? :| | 01:11 |
| heartsmagic | nope, sorry | 01:11 |
| LjL | the last CC meeting was on 21 February, that i can see, but there is no mention of the Turkish LoCo Team | 01:12 |
| heartsmagic | LjL: ekovanci wasnt in the project when we approved | 01:12 |
| heartsmagic | i dont know in which meeting but we saw our names on the approved section | 01:13 |
| LjL | uh, who was leading the team at that time? | 01:13 |
| heartsmagic | he was kerem ongan | 01:14 |
| LjL | can't see that name on launchpad | 01:16 |
| heartsmagic | on turkish team? he quit | 01:16 |
| LjL | no, anywhere | 01:16 |
| heartsmagic | ok i think this is because | 01:17 |
| heartsmagic | the project is hold with a group in here, OpenSource-Tr | 01:17 |
| heartsmagic | and kerem was a member of this group | 01:17 |
| heartsmagic | but actually we havnt started the project, serdar mete has | 01:18 |
| heartsmagic | after some time, canonical gave us the project | 01:18 |
| LjL | where does #ubuntu.tr fall in the picture? | 01:20 |
| heartsmagic | when ubuntu-tr.com was active | 01:21 |
| heartsmagic | 1,5 years ago i think or some more | 01:21 |
| heartsmagic | after that ubuntu-tr.com dropped | 01:21 |
| LjL | this seems a bit like a mess, honestly :| | 01:22 |
| heartsmagic | yes a big mess :) i am sorry | 01:23 |
| heartsmagic | but now we are the only project holders of k/ubuntu-tr.org , ekovanci and me | 01:24 |
| heartsmagic | but we are tied to Opensource-tr | 01:24 |
| LjL | well, the problem here is... if you are the official, approved Ubuntu LoCo Team for Turkey, then you should in theory control the #ubuntu-tr channel | 01:25 |
| heartsmagic | but ubuntu-tr is so old, before ubuntu-tr.org | 01:25 |
| LjL | (at least, the problem as far as the irc council is concerned) | 01:25 |
| heartsmagic | the owner of ubuntu-tr.com dropped the domain | 01:25 |
| LjL | well, but the channel is still active | 01:26 |
| heartsmagic | so what can we do now? | 01:26 |
| LjL | i don't know. LoCo teams are usually approved by the Community Council during a public meeting, but i can find no such meeting | 01:26 |
| heartsmagic | so who approved us? | 01:27 |
| Seeker` | There aren't any logs that support the approval in the "MeetingLogs" section of the wiki | 01:27 |
| LjL | i don't know... how did you get to know you had been approved, to begin with? | 01:27 |
| heartsmagic | just check the wiki :) | 01:28 |
| heartsmagic | nobody came to us | 01:28 |
| Seeker` | which goes back to November 2005 | 01:28 |
| LjL | heartsmagic, but the wiki was changed by the user "Ubuntuturkey" | 01:28 |
| LjL | which i guess is/was a fictious name for the whole team | 01:28 |
| heartsmagic | we don'k know him or her | 01:29 |
| heartsmagic | but one of our old project workers is Yaman Akçalı | 01:29 |
| Seeker` | The "Ubuntuturkey" user's home page was created on the 25th february | 01:29 |
| heartsmagic | imho he is working or was working for canonical | 01:29 |
| heartsmagic | or maybe Serdar Mete | 01:31 |
| heartsmagic | founder of ubuntu-tr.info , after that we moved to ubuntu-tr.org | 01:31 |
| heartsmagic | i think Serdar Mete talked to you at the beginning of the project | 01:32 |
| heartsmagic | LjL: if you give me abit time, i'll the exact approval date | 01:34 |
| heartsmagic | but just adding the wiki time | 01:34 |
| LjL | if you could clarify this for me, i'd be glad | 01:35 |
| heartsmagic | ok i am checking the logs | 01:35 |
| heartsmagic | LjL: got it | 01:39 |
| heartsmagic | 2008-03-26 | 01:39 |
| heartsmagic | LjL: as you see, we dont know who approved us, or who is ubuntuturkiye on the wiki | 01:41 |
| heartsmagic | how can we clarify this? | 01:41 |
| LjL | heartsmagic, i'm not sure, i'll try to get in contact with the loco team coordination about this | 01:42 |
| LjL | could you stay joined to this channel for some days, please? | 01:42 |
| heartsmagic | ok no problem | 01:42 |
| ekovanci | herkese iyi geceler | 02:53 |
| Nafallo | !ask | 14:17 |
| ubotu | Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) | 14:17 |
| raptoid | hi | 17:02 |
| raptoid | everyone.. | 17:02 |
| raptoid | i need a forwarding channel command .. | 17:03 |
| raptoid | ? | 17:03 |
| Myrtti | it's basically a ban | 17:04 |
| Myrtti | I think | 17:04 |
| pleia2 | raptoid: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/MovingChannels | 17:05 |
| pleia2 | is that what you meant? | 17:06 |
| heartsmagic | hello | 20:14 |
| LjL | hi | 20:25 |
| heartsmagic | LjL: have you learned the approval date and who did it? | 20:28 |
| LjL | heartsmagic, nope | 22:13 |
| heartsmagic | weird | 22:13 |
| heartsmagic | cant you check who edited the wiki? | 22:13 |
| LjL | heartsmagic: not beyond knowing it was the Ubuntuturkey nickname | 22:20 |
| heartsmagic | so weird | 22:21 |
| heartsmagic | do you know Yaman Akçalı? | 22:21 |
| LjL | afraid not | 22:27 |
| LjL | i'm just an irc person, i've only accidentally stumbled into this issue | 22:27 |
| heartsmagic | with who should we talk this issue? | 22:29 |
| RoAkSoAx | hi LjL :) | 22:36 |
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