[00:00] Nafallo, ugh. [00:00] yea. I think something like that now... [00:01] Nafallo, argh [00:04] lol [00:05] Nafallo: I believe the correct phrase is "OMG! MY EYES!! THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!" [00:05] does anyone know why botijo is not around? [00:05] Seeker`: naah. I'm pretty openminded. not quite that openminded, but still :-) [00:06] RoAkSoAx: jpatrick might [00:07] LjL, i have seen him away for a couple of days , that why i was asking xD [00:08] well, i don't know :| [00:10] ok, np xD [00:14] raptoid, now there is still a couple of things you should do (or if you want, i guess i can do them for you) [00:14] 1) change https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat so that it mentions the right channel and the right contact [00:14] 2) mail admin at ubuntu-eu dot org and ask them to move locobot_1 from #ubuntu.tr to #ubuntu-tr [00:15] (yes, i know it has already moved, but they should still set it up to join the right channel) [00:21] ah raptoid, there was another thing you asked me but i'm not sure what you meant [00:21] was that how to obtain an ubuntu/member/ cloak? [00:51] hello [00:51] hi heartsmagic [00:52] i've just talked to raptoid some minutes ago, as we moved #ubuntu.tr to #ubuntu-tr, since #ubuntu.tr is not the correct naming for an official LoCo channel, and i believed that they represented the turkish LoCo team, as the channel is listed on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC and contained an official LoCoBot [00:52] it would seem now that the official LoCo team for Turkey is another, however [00:52] could you clarify? [00:53] yes, now the team is different [00:53] none of the old stuff are with us [00:54] s/stuff/staff [00:55] heartsmagic, uhm, i see... the channels you're using, however, aren't in the namespace for LoCo channels... also, i see your team listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList as an Approved team, is that correct? [00:55] yes correct [00:55] and we know our channel names are not suitable [00:57] heartsmagic, do you remember when the team was approved, roughly? [00:57] and if i may know... what relationships are you in with the #ubuntu.tr people? [00:58] approximately one month ago [00:58] LjL: i know _paco_ , he said they want to transfer the channel to us, but i dont know the last situation [00:59] he is online right now, i asked, if he answered i'll tell you [01:02] cool [01:02] was the approval decided during the CC meeting of 21 february? [01:02] yeah LjL prolly [01:02] ok he answered [01:02] should i invite him here? [01:02] feel free to invite him here, yes [01:04] hmm, i think they want to continue as the owner of the channel [01:07] oh, i see ekovanci is online, could you invite? [01:08] ok [01:09] ok LjL i'll be the interpreter [01:09] hello ekovanci [01:09] ah thanks [01:09] hello LjL [01:09] LjL: ekovanci knows the situation [01:10] i'd like to know in which CC meeting the team was approved, i don't see it in the february logs... [01:11] ok, he thinks it is approximately one month, like me [01:11] don't remember the day of the meeting? :| [01:11] nope, sorry [01:12] the last CC meeting was on 21 February, that i can see, but there is no mention of the Turkish LoCo Team [01:12] LjL: ekovanci wasnt in the project when we approved [01:13] i dont know in which meeting but we saw our names on the approved section [01:13] uh, who was leading the team at that time? [01:14] he was kerem ongan [01:16] can't see that name on launchpad [01:16] on turkish team? he quit [01:16] no, anywhere [01:17] ok i think this is because [01:17] the project is hold with a group in here, OpenSource-Tr [01:17] and kerem was a member of this group [01:18] but actually we havnt started the project, serdar mete has [01:18] after some time, canonical gave us the project [01:20] where does #ubuntu.tr fall in the picture? [01:21] when ubuntu-tr.com was active [01:21] 1,5 years ago i think or some more [01:21] after that ubuntu-tr.com dropped [01:22] this seems a bit like a mess, honestly :| [01:23] yes a big mess :) i am sorry [01:24] but now we are the only project holders of k/ubuntu-tr.org , ekovanci and me [01:24] but we are tied to Opensource-tr [01:25] well, the problem here is... if you are the official, approved Ubuntu LoCo Team for Turkey, then you should in theory control the #ubuntu-tr channel [01:25] but ubuntu-tr is so old, before ubuntu-tr.org [01:25] (at least, the problem as far as the irc council is concerned) [01:25] the owner of ubuntu-tr.com dropped the domain [01:26] well, but the channel is still active [01:26] so what can we do now? [01:26] i don't know. LoCo teams are usually approved by the Community Council during a public meeting, but i can find no such meeting [01:27] so who approved us? [01:27] There aren't any logs that support the approval in the "MeetingLogs" section of the wiki [01:27] i don't know... how did you get to know you had been approved, to begin with? [01:28] just check the wiki :) [01:28] nobody came to us [01:28] which goes back to November 2005 [01:28] heartsmagic, but the wiki was changed by the user "Ubuntuturkey" [01:28] which i guess is/was a fictious name for the whole team [01:29] we don'k know him or her [01:29] but one of our old project workers is Yaman Akçalı [01:29] The "Ubuntuturkey" user's home page was created on the 25th february [01:29] imho he is working or was working for canonical [01:31] or maybe Serdar Mete [01:31] founder of ubuntu-tr.info , after that we moved to ubuntu-tr.org [01:32] i think Serdar Mete talked to you at the beginning of the project [01:34] LjL: if you give me abit time, i'll the exact approval date [01:34] but just adding the wiki time [01:35] if you could clarify this for me, i'd be glad [01:35] ok i am checking the logs [01:39] LjL: got it [01:39] 2008-03-26 [01:41] LjL: as you see, we dont know who approved us, or who is ubuntuturkiye on the wiki [01:41] how can we clarify this? [01:42] heartsmagic, i'm not sure, i'll try to get in contact with the loco team coordination about this [01:42] could you stay joined to this channel for some days, please? [01:42] ok no problem [02:53] herkese iyi geceler [14:17] !ask [14:17] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [17:02] hi [17:02] everyone.. [17:03] i need a forwarding channel command .. [17:03] ? [17:04] it's basically a ban [17:04] I think [17:05] raptoid: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/MovingChannels [17:06] is that what you meant? [20:14] hello [20:25] hi [20:28] LjL: have you learned the approval date and who did it? [22:13] heartsmagic, nope [22:13] weird [22:13] cant you check who edited the wiki? [22:20] heartsmagic: not beyond knowing it was the Ubuntuturkey nickname [22:21] so weird [22:21] do you know Yaman Akçalı? [22:27] afraid not [22:27] i'm just an irc person, i've only accidentally stumbled into this issue [22:29] with who should we talk this issue? [22:36] hi LjL :)