[00:00] <wesolek> Odd-rationale, it didn't return anything
[00:00] <kk502> nickrud :)
[00:00] <boolka2> how do i install flash plugin for firefox?
[00:00] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: pastebin the output of "ifconfig"
[00:01] <thedonvaughn> boolka2: aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:01] <nickrud> boolka  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:01] <wesolek> Odd-rationale, did I mention that my wireless card is on pcmcia?
[00:01] <Pici> zoidberg: I'm not sure what to tell you then. You could always try forwarding the mailer daemon message to webmaster@canonical.com
[00:01]  * nickrud has to learn to type faster
[00:01] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: hmm. ok
[00:01] <wesolek> Odd-rationale, it will take me a long time to retype it in pastebin
[00:02] <dmsuperman> Is there a way to have both vertically and horizontally spanning virtual desktops?
[00:02] <wesolek> Odd-rationale, and I guess you need to run soon
[00:02] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: copy+paste
[00:02] <wesolek> Odd-rationale, ubuntu isn't on-line yet
[00:02] <wesolek> that's what I'm trying to do
[00:02] <nickrud> wesolek can't you wire it up? That will make your life much easier
[00:03] <dmsuperman> so I can have essentially 4 virtual workspaces? 2 by 2?
[00:03] <nickrud> wesolek just for the config stuff, seriously.
[00:03] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: oh. ok. how many interfaces showed up? and what were there names? lo, eth0, etc.?
[00:03] <mrpockets> someone wanna give me a hand with installing icecast from source
[00:03] <mrpockets> ?
[00:03] <thedonvaughn> dmsuperman: if you are running compiz, you can sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager and add your desktops there.  If you are not running compiz, you should be able to right click on gnome's pager and change the desktops there as well.
[00:04] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: ?
[00:04] <dmsuperman> thedonvaughn, I am, but when I change both horizontal virtual size and vertical virtual size to 2, it resets the virtual to 1 or the horizontal to 1, so it will only let me have one of them be higher than 1
[00:04] <Danish989> hi everyone
[00:04] <jdsbluedevl> hi, does anyone know how to concatenate rar files that all have extention .rar rather than .r01, .ro2, etc.?
[00:04] <wesolek> Odd-rationale, eth0, etho:avan, lo, vmnet1, vmnet8, wifi0, wlan0 and wlan0:ava
[00:05] <Danish989> here's an installation question:  I just resized one of my hard disks and now there's free space and I want to install ubuntu on that. Which installation method do I have to choose?
[00:05] <thedonvaughn> dmsuperman: wierd.  I run compiz, also in debian at the moment.  Works fine for me.
[00:05] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: is this a laptop or desktop?
[00:05] <Draconicus> nickrud: Ignoring the extras, how's this look? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63120/
[00:05] <wesolek> Odd-rationale, both wlan0 and wifi0 have the same mac address
[00:05] <MrStitch> how do I tell irc that I don't want to see the joins and leaves from a channel?
[00:05] <thedonvaughn> dmsuperman: you running compiz?
[00:05] <MeatGrinder> MrStitch, depends on your client
[00:05] <wesolek> Odd-rationale - laptop, but like a desktop
[00:05] <thedonvaughn> MrStitch: depends on the client
[00:05] <wesolek> odd-rationale, poor mobility with this old laptop
[00:05] <dmsuperman> thedonvaughn, yeah. figured it out, i had to up the number of desktops. wonder why they would make you manually input a number that would be derived from the other 2 settings :S
[00:05] <MeatGrinder> jdsbluedevl, did you try opening one?
[00:06] <thedonvaughn> dmsuperman: cool
[00:06] <MrStitch> thedonvaughn: I'm using Gaim... came with Ubuntu
[00:07] <jdsbluedevl> MeatGrinder: nvm, apparently unrar e "first file" concatenates them all
[00:07] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: so all you have is the command line and you want to connect to the internet through your wireless?
[00:07] <MeatGrinder> jdsbluedevl, yup :)
[00:07] <dmsuperman> thedonvaughn, I've got dual monitor, and now a 2 by 2 grid of workspaces. That's 8 virtual monitors. I'm sure it'll be easy to lose windows now :P
[00:07] <MeatGrinder> jdsbluedevl, rars can be annoying like that
[00:08] <Draconicus> nickrud: I know it's just fine, but I thought I'd give you a treat and show you a nice, clean sources.list for a change
[00:08] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: could you describe your situation again?
[00:08] <dmsuperman> thedonvaughn, do you know if it's possible to set a delay on switching viewports when putting my mouse to the edge? like, I want it so if my mouse just brushes the edge for a quick second it won't switch viewports, i have to hold it there for half a second or something
[00:08] <Saint`Dia> When is the next release coming out?
[00:08] <RobC269> i got gpartition thing working..I found out the problem - the NTFS partition had "inconsistencies" and needed chkdisk run on Windows to fix it..which is broken -.- ..I have no problem accessing and mounting it on Slax, so I'm kinda puzzled as to why Ubuntu is giving me this error :/
[00:08] <Draconicus> nickrud: Huh. Can I put universe and multiverse on bugfixes? Do they even count for that repo?
[00:09] <mic21> I connect my computer to a server using sftp (with "connect to server" in ubuntu 8.04) and I don't have the permissions to download files and even for write but I can browse it ... it's very strange because if I connect with ssh in a terminal it's ok ...
[00:09] <wesolek> Odd-rationale, I've got the graphic interface... I mean everything worked fine till august last year, when I stopped using it. meanwhile I changed my wireless security from WEP to WPA and when I turned my ubunto on today (for the first time since aug) it didn't connect. So I tried to fix it and ended up messing up my interface file really bad
[00:09] <thedonvaughn> dmsuperman: honestly not sure on that.  would be useful i suppose tho
[00:09] <thedonvaughn> Saint`Dia: www.ubuntu.com will tell you that.
[00:09] <Danish989> here's an installation question:  I just resized one of my hard disks and now there's free space and I want to install ubuntu on that. Which installation method do I have to choose?
[00:09] <ScottONanski> Has anyone heard of a program called Magicpart, or something similar? It's a an ISO for partitioning hdd's,
[00:10] <Draconicus> ScottONanski: Partition magic?
[00:10] <Alex6692> Hi, when i press Mercury Messenger, Which i have just installed, It wont load it, does anyone have any ideas?
[00:10] <MeatGrinder> Danish989, just run livecd, click install, and pick the partition
[00:10] <wesolek> odd-rationale, I even tried to connect to a non-secured network and nothing
[00:10] <Danish989> if I use guided installation, wont that just install ubuntu on my primary hard disk? where windows is currently installed? I want to install ubuntu on the free space on my other hard disk
[00:10] <thedonvaughn> Danish989: what do you mean method?  desktop, server, and alternative?
[00:10] <ScottONanski> Drac> No, it's OSS.
[00:10] <Danish989> thedonvaughn: desktop
[00:10] <thenetduck> I am having a problem loading firefox. I can run : /usr/bin/firefox/./firefox and it will run fine, but I can't seem to get it to run when I just type "firefox" in the terminal, which I need so my links run properly. How can I fix this?
[00:10] <thedonvaughn> Danish989: oh i'd use manual.  give yourself a swap 2x your ram and you should be good.
[00:11] <thedonvaughn> i forget the options ubuntu has
[00:11] <thedonvaughn> Danish989: i suppose guided with available free space would be safe if that's an option, i forget.
[00:11] <Danish989> do I have to choose space for the swap partition manually?
[00:11] <Alex6692> Hi, when i press Mercury Messenger, Which i have just installed, It wont load it, does anyone have any ideas?
[00:11] <ScottONanski> Ah, it's called Parted Magic. :)
[00:11] <thedonvaughn> Danish989: yes.  manual you do the partitioning yourself.
[00:11] <dmsuperman> yeah, at least with vertical workspaces, because i have a habit of "slamming' my cursor at the top or bottom of the window to access the taskbar or close/minimize buttons
[00:11] <magicrobotmonkey> does anyone use hulu.com with hardy and the flashplugin-nonfree thats in the repo?
[00:11] <Danish989> scottonanski: why dont you just use Gparted already in ubuntu?
[00:11] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: try removing all other lines in your interfaces file except the followings: http://paste.stgraber.org/2407
[00:12] <Danish989> thedonvaughn: I have to create a partition on the free space, right?
[00:12] <wesolek> odd-rationale, I just installed wpa_supplicant and tried to do it this way, no luck, the terminal is hanging now
[00:12] <ScottONanski> Danish>> This is a way better program, but I need to part from boot cd.
[00:12] <MeatGrinder> Danish989, you can boot the livecd and use gpartition
[00:12] <thedonvaughn> Danish989: correct.  you'll need a swap and a root (/) a minimum.
[00:12] <Alex6692> Hi, when i press Mercury Messenger, Which i have just installed, It wont load it, does anyone have any ideas?
[00:12] <MrStitch> Gaim doesn't support the option I suppose.... any ideas for a better IRC client?
[00:12] <thedonvaughn> MrStitch: irssi
[00:12] <MeatGrinder> MrStitch, xchat
[00:12] <ij_kaufman> hi all.  i've never used any linux OS before, and what i'm actually hoping to do is not so much use it, but install it for the purpose of donating two old computers with a clean, fresh OS free of all the junk that i accumulated over the years.  in addition, i'm hoping/expecting for all data/files to be wiped off the box.  would that be the case?  is there a way to install ubuntu in such a way that it just reformats everythi
[00:12] <ij_kaufman> lready gotten everything off of both boxes that I need, so wiping it clean will not delete anything i need to get back.
[00:12] <Saint`Dia> Knoversation
[00:13] <wesolek> odd-rationale, ok, and then what?
[00:13] <Saint`Dia> konversation^
[00:13] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: restart your networking.
[00:13] <kee9260> hello.  am looking for some help for a know-nothing i know who is not me, but is trying to get going with linux puppy
[00:13] <MrStitch> irssi or xchat..... which one would be fairly easy for a newb to grasp
[00:13] <thedonvaughn> ij_kaufman: if you just install over your windows partitions on your hdd, you'll accomplish just that.
[00:13] <ScottONanski> Parted Magic is an awesome program. I was very impressed with it the first time.
[00:13] <Saint`Dia> How do I check which version of ubuntu I got?
[00:13] <Draconicus> I think we've lost nickrud ...
[00:14] <Starnestommy> MrStitch: xchat is easier, but I've found irssi to be more flexible
[00:14] <belkinhelp2> Anyone here have experience running Ubuntu on a ramdisk?
[00:14] <Starnestommy> Saint`Dia: lsb_release -a
[00:14] <MrStitch> thanks, I'll be right back with that then....
[00:14] <ij_kaufman> thedonvaughn, can u walk me through that, and or, point me to where i can follow such steps?
[00:14] <wesolek> ok done
[00:14] <MeatGrinder> MrStitch, probably xchat to start
[00:14] <kee9260> i want to be able to run a program i downloaded into XP in linux puppy
[00:14] <wesolek> odd-rationale ok done
[00:14] <Saint`Dia> ok, got gutsy.
[00:14] <belkinhelp2> !ramdisk
[00:14] <kee9260> and grab my music files and access them through puppy
[00:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ramdisk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:14] <Saint`Dia> When's the next release coming out?
[00:15] <thedonvaughn> ij_kaufman: all you got to do is download an ubuntu iso,  burn it.  put it in your pc, boot it up and install it.  Just chooose the option to use the entire hard drive when it asks.
[00:15] <Starnestommy> Saint`Dia: I think it's on the 24th
[00:15] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: try cconnecting with network-manager
[00:15] <Danish989> thedonvaughn: how do I create a swap?
[00:15] <thedonvaughn> Saint`Dia: ubuntu.com has that information, for the second time.  right on the index.
[00:15] <wesolek> odd-rationale ok
[00:15] <Draconicus> Starnestommy: Of this month? Already? Wow.
[00:15] <ij_kaufman> awesome.  that you sooo much, thedonvaughn
[00:16] <wesolek> odd-ratiionale, it won't start the network-manager
[00:16] <thedonvaughn> Danish989: create a partition, and for the type "physical space for swap' or something to that nature.
[00:16] <Saint`Dia> thedonvaughn: Well, I'm on dialup, you know linuxant's pay modem drivers, and I'm not paying for crap. So 'm limited to 14K, much easier to ask in IRC, know what I mean?
[00:16] <thedonvaughn> Danish989: this is all covered in the installation documents by the way.
[00:16] <MacFlecknoe> anyone know where i can find an irc room on assembly?
[00:16] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: you have the networkmanager applet in the tray?
[00:16] <Starnestommy> MacFlecknoe: maybe ##asm
[00:17] <MacFlecknoe> ill try thanks
[00:17] <wesolek> odd-rationale, yes, in the task bar
[00:17] <Danish989> ok thanks a lot
[00:17] <wesolek> odd-rationale, I will reboot it now, it should be fine after the reboot
[00:17] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: what happens if you click it? can you see available networks?
[00:18] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: sure. reboot fixes a lot of things sometimes... :)
[00:19] <MrStitch> meh?
[00:19] <MrStitch> Odd.... am I in the correct place?
[00:20] <wesolek> odd-rationale, yes I can see available networks now
[00:20] <pukeko> Mem:    450880k total,   446380k used,     4500k free, is that healthy ?
[00:21] <Shpook> Is there a utility or script to batch create thumbnails from images?
[00:21] <M3TVF> how do I configure an AX25 port to use my soundcard
[00:21] <reya276> ’╗┐ ’╗┐I need some help mounting my external hard drive, for some reason I can't access it. Can anyone help? Please
[00:21] <MrStitch> By default... Xchat isn't suppose to show all the users in a channel?
[00:22] <Flashback> Anyone happen to know anything about xawtv4 for Ubuntu?
[00:22] <Starnestommy> MrStitch: it is, but you can right-click on a channel's tab and uncheck 'show join/part messages'
[00:22] <achandrashekar> reya276: what do you see when you type dmesg ?
[00:22] <Alex6691> What do i type in terminal to download Java?
[00:22] <dmsuperman> does anybody know a way using compiz and multiple workspaces that i can alt + tab and have it flip through all the windows open in all workspaces, then switch to the workspace that window is on?
[00:23] <reya276> a bunch of stuff
[00:23] <Shpook> If GIMP had batch options I'd be in heaven.
[00:23] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: can you connect to your network?
[00:23] <reya276> ’╗┐achandrashekar:  no that great at discerning this stuff
[00:23] <M3TVF>  how do I configure an AX25 port to use my soundcard
[00:23] <MacFlecknoe> anyone here know assembly? i have a real simply question and it seems the assembly channels are all dead
[00:23] <Alex6691> What do i type in Terminal to download Java?
[00:23] <dmsuperman> Alex6691, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[00:23] <Alex6691> Thank you.
[00:23] <dmsuperman> or java5
[00:24] <thedonvaughn> Alex6691: you can always sudo aptitude search <keyword>  in this case java.  And it's sun-java6-bin or sun-java6-jre
[00:24] <MrStitch> Starnestommy: Danke!
[00:24] <reya276> ’╗┐achandrashekar:  I can pastebin it for you
[00:24] <wesolek> odd-rationale, nope but right now I am running on WPA, maybe that's why
[00:24] <Alex6691> Thanks :)!
[00:24] <achandrashekar> dmsuperman: are you referring to ctrl+alt+<down arrow key> ?
[00:24] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: I am connected to a wpa network right now.
[00:24] <MrStitch> ahhh... it already feels cleaner in here. :0
[00:24] <Flashback> If not xawtv4, what's anyone using to watch DVB tv, that isn't Mythtv?
[00:24] <wesolek> odd-rationale, let me just try something (a tutorial) and I will get back to you in few minutes
[00:25] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: ok
[00:25] <Alex6691> It says Java has no installation cadidate.
[00:25] <M3TVF>  how do I configure an AX25 port to use my soundcard
[00:25] <Flashback> Alex: Use synaptic. Search for Java.
[00:25] <wesolek> odd-rationale, trying this right now http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[00:26] <Danish989> what is the difference between a primary partition and a logical partition?
[00:26] <dmsuperman> achandrashekar, for me that switches vertically between my workspaces. I have a 2x2 grid of them
[00:26] <Danish989> should I choose primary or logical? location for the new partition: beginning or end? and what about mount point?
[00:26] <mannytu> http://java.sun.com/
[00:27] <achandrashekar> dmsuperman: you'll need to switch it to four desktops with compiz if you wish it to rotate..
[00:27] <reya276> ’╗┐achandrashekar: take a look http://www.pastebin.org/29564
[00:27] <magnetron> Danish989: it's only possible to boot from a primary partition
[00:27] <Flashback> A primary partition is the first four partitions. After that, logical must be used. It's a hold over for the way things have always been done. Use either, it doesn't matter.
[00:27] <dmsuperman> achandrashekar, no no. that's not what i meant. I want to be able to alt + tab between windows, and have it show _all_ the windows on _all_ the workspaces
[00:27] <dmsuperman> achandrashekar, so when I select a window on another workspace, it will automatically switch to that window in that workspace
[00:28] <Danish989> if I want to have the boot option between xp and ubuntu, I should use primary partition then?
[00:28] <Flashback> Anyone here at all watching tv on their workstation? Something in a digital card perhaps?
[00:28] <Danish989> and what goes in the ''mount point'' ?
[00:28] <achandrashekar> dmsuperman: ive been able to do that..(or so from what i understand that you are asking) with the ctrl-alt-down arrow key
[00:29] <dmsuperman> achandrashekar, all the ctrl + alt + down keys do it switch to other workspaces
[00:29] <Alex6691> It says i have to install it though Terminal, so what do i type in terminal because sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre didnt work.
[00:29] <Nasra> !pastebin
[00:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[00:29] <wesolek> odd-rationale, no luck again
[00:29] <thedonvaughn> Danish989: mount point is where you mount the partition.  For root you put "/".  for swap it won't have one.   Btw I'd just choose logical.  And you can boot from logical.
[00:29] <dmsuperman> achandrashekar, I want to switch between window focus. the normal way of doing that is alt + tab
[00:29] <Flashback> !xawtv4
[00:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xawtv4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:29] <dmsuperman> achandrashekar, but that only switches between the windows in my current workspace
[00:29] <Flashback> !xawtv
[00:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xawtv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:30] <dmsuperman> achandrashekar, i want to switch between windows in all my workspaces
[00:30] <Flashback> !klear
[00:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klear - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:30] <Alex6691> : It says i have to install it though Terminal, so what do i type in terminal because sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre didnt work.
[00:30] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: you can see you network but can't connect to it?
[00:30] <thedonvaughn> Alex6691: make sure your /etc/apt/sources.list is in order and sudo apt-get update
[00:30] <MrStitch> Is Ubuntu subject to the same malware, spyware, and viruses that windows based users get stuck with?
[00:30] <Alex6691> What do you mean? o_o
[00:30] <thedonvaughn> MrStitch: nope.
[00:31] <achandrashekar> reya276: if you go open a console, and then cd to /media
[00:31] <wesolek> odd-rationale, yes I can see my network
[00:31] <Nasra> I have a question what do I put/write on the syntax part when using pastebin?
[00:31] <achandrashekar> reya276: do you see anything there that shows the drive has been mounted?
[00:31] <MrStitch> thedonvaugn: Is that because it's written in a different language?
[00:31] <reya276> ’╗┐achandrashekar: the drive is being read by the system, but form some reason it does not allows me to access it, so I can't mounted or it does not auto mount the drive so therefor I can't access it.
[00:31] <wesolek> odd-rationale, but when I click on it, I don't even have an option for wpa, only wep
[00:31] <Alex6691> : It says i have to install it though Terminal, so what do i type in terminal because sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre didnt work.
[00:31] <gerro> MrStitch: if you use wine or windows virtualized it still can get viruses, and it is prone to them if you dualboot with windows
[00:31] <thedonvaughn> MrStitch: nope because it's compiled for a different platform.  Usually it's a windows .exe executable.  That means nothing to linux.
[00:31] <TheMusicGuy> hello, I know that RhythmBox uses Gstreamer for its audio support, but I can't find any gstreamer plugins for tracked music formats...(still looking though)...does anyone know of a way to get RhythmBox to play these formats, such as XM, MOD, S3M, IT, etc. ?
[00:31] <gerro> MrStitch: virtualized as on the windows part
[00:32] <thedonvaughn> MrStitch: gerro is right.. I suppose you could run a windows virus using wine (wine is a windows emulator which does run windows .exe executables)
[00:32] <wesolek> odd-rationale, the only place I can see wap option is when I want to create a new network, but that (after putting all the appropirate info) doesn't work either
[00:32] <reya276> ’╗┐achandrashekar: Also when I try to mount it, I get a message that says I have no access to do so yet, I'm the admin for the system
[00:32] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, generally, linux distros are exempt from viruses because A: it's written to be a more secure OS. Windows users generally want it to "just work", and by enabling things to "just work" a lot of things become automated, allowing viruses to slip by.
[00:32] <mannytu> I think the Sun has updated their JRE....
[00:32] <achandrashekar> reya276: are you first sudo su ?
[00:32] <MrStitch> So.... right now when I boot up my computer, I have the option to choose winblows or Ubuntu... in this scenario, you're saying my computer is still technically a p.o.s.?
[00:33] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, and B: because there are _far_ more windows users than linux users, so it's just more profitable for hackers/spammers to go after the windows base
[00:33] <achandrashekar> reya276: then im wondering if you have to create an entry in fstab for the device
[00:33] <Alex6691> : It says i have to install it though Terminal, so what do i type in terminal because sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre didnt work.
[00:33] <cheesypieces> hi, any idea why i can't start the login settings manager? it starts to start up but then nothing happens
[00:33] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, Plus, linux users are more likely to know a lot more about what's going on in their system than windows users, so hackers and spammers generally don't bother
[00:33] <gerro> MrStitch: it would have to be one huge exploit for it to somehow write to the ext3 partition if your windows side gets jacked
[00:33] <achandrashekar> reya276: i ran into this a bit a go...and i had to do a google search to mount a device .
[00:34] <reya276> yes
[00:34] <reya276> ’╗┐achandrashekar: yes I am
[00:34] <Nasra> I have question for someone nice .....
[00:34] <Nasra> I have a question what do I put/write on the syntax part when using pastebin?
[00:34] <dmsuperman> gerro: or if you're like one of the many people who dual boot, windows will be able toe write to the ext3 partition using a driver you would install for just that purpose
[00:34] <MrStitch> I see... so, since Ubuntu is on it's own partition, then there is no problem?
[00:34] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: well, i'm out of ideas. sorry. I coundn't help more...
[00:34] <achandrashekar> reya276: i remember creating a directory in /media ...then I had to create an entry in fstab....then went about mounting from that point on.
[00:34] <water_foul> i've been able to tune my hdtv card with mplayer but i wanted to do it with kaffeine, can someone help me?
[00:34] <gerro> dmsuperman: exactly but you can use different file systems so that complicates the matter
[00:34] <Danish989> location for the new partition: beginning or end?
[00:34] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, unless you're allowed windows to see/write to the ubuntu partition, then booting into windows is very unlikely to touch your ubuntu partition in any way
[00:35] <gerro> MrStitch: pretty much none, just hope if windows goes down it don't take ubuntu with it
[00:35] <reya276> right but how do you mount it
[00:35] <water_foul> kaffeine wont scan for channels but is there a way i can use a channels.conf file?
[00:35] <Alex6691> Right so what do i type in terminal to install Java?
[00:35] <dmsuperman> reya: have you tried running that command as sudo?
[00:35] <MrStitch> Gerro - ROFL.... isn't that the case ALL the time... taking everything with it..hahahha
[00:35] <dmsuperman> Alex6691, "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" should do it
[00:35] <water_foul> kaffeine wont scan for channels but is there a way i can use a channels.conf file?
[00:36] <reya276> ’╗┐achandrashekar: the thing is I don't want to loose the existing files on that drive
[00:36] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, not with linux, it's exempt to windows asshattery
[00:36] <achandrashekar> reya276: like this ---in fstab -> /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 vfat defaults 0 0
[00:36] <reya276> ’╗┐achandrashekar: what is the command to mount the drive
[00:36] <dmsuperman> reya276, have you tried running the mount command with sudo?
[00:36] <Alex6691> dmsuperman: it says this : Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate
[00:36] <gerro> MrStitch: oh and if you decide to do something crazy like I dunno delete random files in ubuntu, just watch out if your other partition is mounted there you might wipe it :/
[00:36] <wesolek> odd-rationale... maybe crazy quastion, can you pls check this link for me http://paste.stgraber.org/2407 I am just not sure if there should be spaces after -D and after -c in the 3rd line of the WPA point 2
[00:36] <dmsuperman> Alex6691, "sudo apt-get update"
[00:36] <sparr_> whats the easiest way to get files from a windows vista pc to an ubuntu pc?
[00:36] <reya276> ’╗┐dmsuperman: what is the commands?
[00:36] <gerro> MrStitch: that's /media
[00:36] <sparr_> over the network, no sneakernet!
[00:36] <achandrashekar> reya276: what that does is creates the ability to manually mount it - take a look here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/manual-mount-external-usb-hard-drive-in-ubuntu-519463/
[00:36] <dmsuperman> reya276, I don't remember off the top of my head
[00:36] <Alex6691> Thanks im updatin now.
[00:37] <water_foul> kaffeine wont scan for channels but is there a way i can use a channels.conf file?
[00:37] <MrStitch> Not sure if my winblows can see the linux part... haven't checked that out yet. However, I see that Ubuntu does have access to the windows partition.... I've already grabbed all my MP3's
[00:37] <thedonvaughn> Alex6691: heh i told you that about 10 minutes ago. ;)
[00:37] <wesolek> odd-rationale, where it says: connect via command line in the WPA Connection - WPA-PSK or WPA2-PSK section
[00:37] <dmsuperman> Alex6691, no problem. after you update your lists, run the install java command again and you should be good to go
[00:37] <Danish989> thedonvaughn: what is ''location for new partition'' ?? should I choose begining or end?
[00:37] <thedonvaughn> Danish989: beginning
[00:37] <dmsuperman> thedonvaughn, it's a proven fact that people in irc channels either don't hear or just don't listen :P
[00:37] <Alex6691> thedonvaughn: sorry i didnt see :P
[00:37] <achandrashekar> reya276: it would look like this : /dev/sdc1 /media/FOO vfat defaults 0 0
[00:37] <thedonvaughn> Alex6691: yah i'm just bustin your chops :)
[00:37] <dmsuperman> achandrashekar, that's the fstab entry, i think he's trying to do the commandline
[00:37] <Alex6691> xD
[00:38] <water_foul> kaffeine wont scan for channels but is there a way i can use a channels.conf file?
[00:38] <thedonvaughn> dmsuperman: yup
[00:38] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: wrong link? I don't see what you're asking..
[00:38] <Danish989> thedonvaughn: thanks a lot!
[00:38] <achandrashekar> reya276: then i think you still need to create the directory in /media no?
[00:38] <dmsuperman> reya276, are you trying to edit the fstab or mount it commandline?
[00:38] <wesolek> odd-rationale http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=684495 it's less than a half way down
[00:38] <achandrashekar> dmsuperman: ahh...im off  today with what people are "really" asking... not enough coffee...
[00:38] <achandrashekar> :)
[00:38] <water_foul> kaffeine wont scan for channels but is there a way i can use a channels.conf file?
[00:38] <dmsuperman> haha
[00:39] <dmsuperman> !patience | water_foul
[00:39] <ubotu> water_foul: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[00:39] <MrStitch> Sounds like I found the holy grail then... er... at least I'm on the right path. Now, I need to figure out how to install it on this other computer as a stand alone Ubuntu machine
[00:39] <Julolidine> If anyone is a networking expert, I have kind of a bizarre problem.  My wireless network card stopped "scanning" and can't see any networks anymore.
[00:39] <Alex6691> Thanks, Java is installing now :D!
[00:39] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, easy as pie. Insert LiveCD, choose install from the live desktop, and then when you get to partition just choose the guided method
[00:39] <dmsuperman> Alex6691, no problem :D
[00:40] <reya276> ’╗┐dmsuperman: the entry for the drive is already in fstab as I was able to access the drive a couple of days ago
[00:40] <dmsuperman> reya276, but you get permissions errors trying to access the drive?
[00:40] <achandrashekar> Anyone pretty good with ldap? --i have a server that is running very slow with ldap queries..and i need to determine if the database is hosed..any ideas?
[00:40] <reya276> ’╗┐dmsuperman: # /dev/sdc1
[00:40] <reya276> UUID=FBAE-335E                            /media/My_Book  vfat    defaults  0    2
[00:40] <dmsuperman> reya276, what's the entry in fstab look like?
[00:40] <achandrashekar> reya276:ahhh..okay
[00:40] <dmsuperman> heh
[00:40] <dmsuperman> reya276, remove the #
[00:40] <MrStitch> dmsuperman: Yeah, I did that with this computer, but having trouble getting there. I'm trying to do it right now so I can relay the exact error message I'm getting.... for some reason the darn comp doesn't want to boot from the CD
[00:40] <dmsuperman> reya276, that comments out the line, so it's ignored :P
[00:40] <Odd-rationale> wesolek: in that line. there should be no space after -D and -i e.g. -ieth1
[00:41] <dmsuperman> reya276, then run "sudo umount -a && mount -a" and it'll re-read the fstab
[00:41] <Zemus> Hey, what's the command to reveal uptime?
[00:41] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, open bios and make sure your boot order has the cd first
[00:41] <Flannel> Zemus: uptime
[00:41] <dmsuperman> Zemus, uptime
[00:41] <dmsuperman> :P
[00:41] <buzzsaw> i am a bit stumped    i just reinstalled   ubuntu-server   but... for some reason its not picking up that i am connected to my modem
[00:41] <Zemus> Thanks. :P
[00:41] <buzzsaw> cable modem that is
[00:41] <achandrashekar> dmsuperman: indeed! the #
[00:41] <reya276> ’╗┐achandrashekar: yes I get the permissions error and in the media folder I see a bunch of "My Book" entries each with an "_" appendend to it  for each time I used to access it
[00:41] <wesolek> odd-rationale, thanks!
[00:41] <Ashex> !font
[00:41] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[00:41] <adv> which backup tool should i use?
[00:41] <MrStitch> did that... looking in the bios for other clues... it's a bit different, and I'll get to that in a bit
[00:42] <dmsuperman> reya276, remove the #
[00:42] <buzzsaw> how might i go about setting up the comptuer to connect to the internet?
[00:42] <achandrashekar> reya276: is the # present in fstab?
[00:42] <achandrashekar> dmsuperman: has it right if that is the case. .
[00:43] <reya276> ’╗┐dmsuperman: oh man that command just unmonted my other drives and now it says they are busy and won't mount them
[00:43] <reya276> ’╗┐dmsuperman: umount: /: device is busy
[00:43] <dmsuperman> reya276, the command will unmount whatever drives it can. any busy drives it will say it couldn't unmount then, which is fine
[00:43] <pukeko> ..ok another question -- (box in question is an ubuntu dapper) --- cron.hourly/daily/weekly vs crontab -- i can not get scripts to run via crontab, its not a path, perms or syntax thing i'm pretty much sure, stuff from crontab/s just wont run! any pointers ?
[00:43] <dmsuperman> reya276, then mount -a to remount and unmounted drives
[00:43] <dmsuperman> reya276, "sudo mount -a"
[00:46] <reya276> ’╗┐dmsuperman: oh look what I got after that last command "mount: mount point /media/My_Book does not exist"
[00:46] <dmsuperman> reya276, create the folder My_Book in /media
[00:46] <dmsuperman> reya276, "sudo mkdir /media/My_Book"
[00:46] <ohnoesmilk> Hm. Does anyone know how to get wifi to work on Ubuntu 7.1 (explaining in noob instructions)?
[00:46] <MrStitch> Here we go... I should have the message in 30 seconds or so
[00:46] <dmsuperman> ohnoesmilk, it's usually pretty self-explanatory. if not, then google your paricular wifi card + "ubuntu" and you will usually get a good guide
[00:46] <Julolidine>  If anyone is a networking expert, I have kind of a bizarre problem.  After a restart, my wireless network card stopped "scanning" and can't see any networks anymore.
[00:46] <dmsuperman> ohnoesmilk, a lot of wifi cards work out-of-box, and you just have to go into the networks panel and enable / configure them as usual
[00:46] <Julolidine> iwlist scan yields     eth1      No scan results
[00:46] <pukeko> ohnoesmilk:check the chipset your card uses
[00:47] <reya276> ’╗┐dmsuperman: oh but now all the directories are locked
[00:47] <dmsuperman> reya276, the directories in your mounted drive?
[00:48] <norty> Question: Im trying to organize my music and I want to fix all the (IDE?) tags or whatever they are called, i try to right click on the file and edit like in windows but it doesn't let me, does anyone know how i can do this?
[00:48] <reya276> ’╗┐dmsuperman: yes, I want all the directories in that drive to be accessible to anyone who logs in to this PC
[00:48] <reya276> ’╗┐dmsuperman: as my wife access this PC too
[00:48] <errordeveloper> hi
[00:48] <imaginativeone> would someone help me to connect my ubuntu pc to my Windows pc?
[00:48] <errordeveloper> how to install ubuntu in chroot? without a cdrom ..
[00:49] <Lake> I set up a samba file server on a P3 500MHz 256MB box and sometimes I am under the impression that the transfer speed between server and other machines could be faster if the box was better. Is it just an illusion or is my box a discernable bottleneck ?
[00:49] <dmsuperman> it's probably part of your fstab entry
[00:49] <dmsuperman> i don't remember the exact command
[00:49] <magicrobotmonkey> norty: sudo apt-get install easytag
[00:49] <imaginativeone> how do I set up a samba server?
[00:49] <MrStitch> Ok, here we go - [   243.330499] ata1: port failed to respond (30 secs, Status 0xd0)
[00:49] <dmsuperman> but instead of defaults, it should be "defaults,umask=0000" or _something_ like that. i don't think it's umask, but it's something like that
[00:49] <dmsuperman> anybody else remember what it is?
[00:49] <imaginativeone> up til now...samba !@#$ing sucks
[00:49] <yacc> Lake: the only thing that will be slowing you down is potentially your disc subsystem.
[00:49] <magicrobotmonkey> imaginativeone: if you right click on a folder, is ther ea sharing options option?
[00:50] <MrStitch> Then, right after that, it keeps giving all kinds of other error messages.... odd tho, cause I thought I told it to install to the scsi drives, but it's trying for the ata drive?
[00:50] <imaginativeone> in windows?
[00:50] <yacc> Lake: On the hardware you describe it's probably some old slow PATA setup.
[00:50] <Lake> yacc: what do you mean by 'disc subsystem' ?
[00:50] <reya276> yes it was umask077
[00:50] <Lake> yacc: oh yes it is !
[00:50] <magicrobotmonkey> imaginativeone: no, in ubuntu
[00:50] <dmsuperman> reya276, make it 000, umask is the reverse of ubuntu perms
[00:50] <yacc> Lake: Basically, you should verify that you have at least DMA support for your IDE controller/disc.
[00:50] <dmsuperman> reya276, the numbers are what operations to disallow
[00:50] <Lake> yacc: so it's not the cpu itself, it's the PATA
[00:50] <dmsuperman> reya276, i'm almost 100% sure at least
[00:50] <yacc> Lake: hdparm should tell you tht.
[00:51] <magicrobotmonkey> imaginativeone: but if you have a shared folder in windows and its on the same network as ubuntu, you should be able to browse to it
[00:51] <achandrashekar> battle for wesnoth!...lol
[00:51] <yacc> Lake: IDE/ATA comes in a number of levels of "hellness".
[00:51] <imaginativeone> magicrobotmonkey: where do I look for that?
[00:51] <Lake> yacc: less is better ?
[00:51] <reya276> ’╗┐dmsuperman: ok it used to have umask=077
[00:52] <dmsuperman> reya276, yeah, it should be either umask=0007 or umask=0000, depending on how you want it.
[00:52] <dmsuperman> reya276, but 0007 should be fine for local users
[00:52] <dmsuperman> reya276, then once you edit it, remount the drives
[00:52] <reya276> ’╗┐dmsuperman: ah ok then
[00:52] <yacc> Lake: well, run hdparm -d /dev/hda <= that will tell if your hardware at least uses DMA.
[00:52] <dmsuperman> reya276, "sudo umount -a" " sudo mount -a"
[00:52] <Lake> yacc: all right, one second
[00:53] <UBUNTUJAY123> whats the edit command in xubuntu
[00:53] <reya276> dmsuperman: I got an error "[mntent]: line 12 in /etc/fstab is bad"
[00:53] <UBUNTUJAY123> gedit dont work
[00:53] <Flannel> UBUNTUJAY123: mousepad
[00:53] <yacc> Lake: and you should probably check first the docs if hdparm -d does not destroy your hardware :-P (no it does not, but sometimes there are joksters around :-p)
[00:53] <Flyerfye> try
[00:53] <dmsuperman> post that line
[00:55] <reya276> ’╗┐dmsuperman: I'll post the whole fstab file
[00:55] <dmsuperman> pastebin it
[00:55] <UBUNTUJAY123> it still didnt work
[00:55] <Lake> yacc: whats the command used to bring up connected drives ?
[00:55] <dmsuperman> UBUNTUJAY123, try vim or nano
[00:55] <dmsuperman> UBUNTUJAY123, they're command line editors
[00:56] <yacc> Lake: I remember once when a colleague and me were quite irritated by the "root" at a customers installation, and while waiting for the email round trip painted out ways to make that stupid MSCE execute rm -Rf without us being implicated by the email.
[00:56] <yacc> Lake: connected drives?
[00:56] <imaginativeone> how do I connect to windows?
[00:56] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, what do you mean "connect"
[00:56] <reya276> dmsuperman: http://www.pastebin.org/29568
[00:56] <Lake> yacc: well I want to list the drives that buntu sees
[00:56] <n2diy> Lake: mount
[00:57] <imaginativeone> dmsuperman: I would like to transfer files to/from my XP machine
[00:57] <kindofabuzz> awn manager just dissappears when i opne it
[00:57] <kindofabuzz> open
[00:57] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, install samba, and then you can just setup network shares
[00:57] <Lake> yacc: /dev/sdb5, thats all I get returned
[00:57] <imaginativeone> dmsuperman: that is WORK
[00:58] <imaginativeone> samba is damn near impossible for a newbie
[00:58] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, ?
[00:58] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, it's _cake_ to use
[00:58] <imaginativeone> LOL
[00:58] <reya276> ’╗┐dmsuperman: did you see the pastebin link
[00:58] <Lake> yacc: I am thinking rm -R isn't a nice thing to do :P
[00:58] <imaginativeone> kinda like a Ferrari
[00:58] <dmsuperman> there's a quick little gui, you choose which folders to share, and whether to allow write access or not
[00:58] <imaginativeone> cake to use, but I'll be damned if I figure out the basics
[00:59] <Lake> imaginativeone: it's not that hard ! I am a newbie and it worked :P
[00:59] <dmsuperman> reya276, i'm not sure what the <pass> field is for, what is it? i always use 0...
[00:59] <imaginativeone> cool...is there a guide?
[00:59] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, like i said, choose folders to share, choose if they should be allowed write access, click save
[00:59] <Lake> imaginativeone: just edit the smb.conf file and thats the most of it
[00:59] <imaginativeone> and don't tell me O'Reilly
[00:59] <reya276> dmsuperman: oh I do not know anything about this
[00:59] <Lake> imaginativeone: or use the GUI dmsuperman says, its even better :)
[00:59] <dmsuperman> reya276, try 0, it's always worked for me and even the guide i was reading said they don't know what it's for and to just use 0 :P
[00:59] <imaginativeone> where is that gui?
[01:00] <norty> magicrobotmonkey, thanks
[01:00] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, System -> Administration -> Shared Folders
[01:00] <reya276> dmsuperman: put 0 where in umask?
[01:00] <achandrashekar> while..we're at it... what is the "preferred" methodology of sharing folders between linux boxes? nfs?samba? or ssh-keys then a mount of some sort?
[01:00] <ncburnz> you can use SWAT or Webmin to set up Samba.  Not too bad
[01:00] <dmsuperman> reya276, as the last field, where it's 2 right now
[01:00] <Lake> yacc: so any ideas on what to do when the output I got it /dev/sdb5:
[01:00] <reya276> dmsuperman: oh ok
[01:01] <Shadow420> hey I have made a guide I need someone to look it over its for dual booting windows/ubuntu
[01:01] <dsmith_> if I upgrade from7.10 to 8.04 do I have to reinstall the upgrade?
[01:01] <dmsuperman> does anybody know if it'll be a problem to install windows xp into my empty ntfs partition on the same hard drive as my currently installed ubuntu? I know I'll have to re-install grub, but will that be the only problem?
[01:02] <imaginativeone> you guys rock
[01:02] <imaginativeone> it is installing samba for me??
[01:02] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, it's what we're here for 8-)
[01:02] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, yup, quick and easy
[01:02] <dmsuperman> Shadow420, where's that guide at?
[01:03] <reya276> dmsuperman: that 0 thing got rid of the error output but I still can't access the drive
[01:03] <Shadow420> dmsuperman II have it on my desktop I haven't submitted it yet
[01:03] <dmsuperman> reya276, looking, i didn't even notice. you never changed your umask. make it umask=0007
[01:03] <reya276> dmsuperman: it says that the only one who has acess is root
[01:04] <dmsuperman> reya276, that will give everybody on your local machine access
[01:04] <dmsuperman> Shadow420, upload it :D
[01:04] <MrStitch> in regards to stability.... is Ubuntu more stable than windows?
[01:04] <Shadow420> dmsuperman do you want me to pastebin it?
[01:04] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, definitely
[01:04] <lekremyelsew> hi everyone, my friend burned me a data CD but my computer thinks that it is an audio CD, wut do i do?
[01:04] <dmsuperman> Shadow420, sure, however you want
[01:04] <reya276> dmsuperman: I did that but I still get this "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "My_Book"
[01:05] <Shadow420> it still needs to be edited and simplified for real new people to dual-booting
[01:05] <yacc> Lake: What output? Beside you should probably be running it on /dev/sdb :-P
[01:05] <erisco> how can I get thumbnails for .PSD images to show up, like they do for most other formats?
[01:05] <dmsuperman> reya276, 1: Upload your current /etc/fstab, as it is right this second, to pastebin
[01:05] <imaginativeone> OMG...you guys REALLY rock
[01:05] <MrStitch> What if a buddy gives me a cd, or flash drive with some files on it.... like an Excel spreadsheet, mp3's, etc.... will Ubuntu know what to do with that data?
[01:05] <yacc> Lake: *shucks* hdparm does not know about DMA on SCSI devices :(
[01:06] <Defunctus> hey hey
[01:06] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, no problem :D
[01:06] <imaginativeone> MrStitch: yes
[01:06] <Shadow420> hmm it's not sending
[01:06] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, sure
[01:06] <Shadow420> !pastebin
[01:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[01:06] <ange_> nice
[01:06] <dmsuperman> Shadow420, It wouldn't let me accept
[01:06] <imaginativeone> can I share my DVD writer?
[01:06] <dmsuperman> yacc, isn't DMA for IDE drives?
[01:06] <lekremyelsew> hai all
[01:06] <reya276> dmsuperman: http://www.pastebin.org/29572
[01:06] <Shadow420> dmsuperman I will paste bin it
[01:06] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, that I'm not sure, I haven't tried. I'm not sure it would be a great idea, it would probably be pretty slow
[01:07] <style23> I can't play dvds
[01:07] <dmsuperman> reya276, did you remount?
[01:07] <dmsuperman> !dvd | style23
[01:07] <ubotu> style23: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:07] <reya276> dmsuperman: yes
[01:07] <yacc> dmsuperman: yes, but you get SCSI devices out of IDE devices nowadays.
[01:07] <tim167> i have a damaged disk, when i insert it (USB) it gets mounted automatically, and then i can not unmount it anymore ("cannot eject") how do i prevent it from mounting automatically ? i just want to run  ddrescue on it, it doesnt have to be mounted for that... thanks
[01:07] <FelipeMorales> hi friend
[01:07] <ds_> I really need help setting up a my network card/internet for 7.10 fresh install...I can't update without it :P
[01:07] <dmsuperman> reya276, then I haven't got a clue what the problem is, you'll have to wait for someone more knowledgeable :(
[01:07] <Shadow420> dmsuperman http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63122/
[01:08] <Danish989> how do I make a swap partition?
[01:08] <dmsuperman> Danish989, the installer for ubuntu will help you make it, if you're installing it. i'm not sure how after the fact though
[01:08] <Julolidine>  If anyone is a networking expert, I have kind of a bizarre problem.  After a restart, my wireless network card stopped "scanning" and can't see any networks anymore.
[01:08] <Julolidine> iwlist scan yields     eth1      No scan results
[01:08] <Pelo> Danish989, you'll need to boot the live cd to do it , you can't do it on a running hard drive
[01:08] <MrStitch> Are there any web-browser-based viruses/malware/spyware that I would be vulnerable to??
[01:08] <dmsuperman> Shadow420, alright, first off that first sentence is quite possibly the longest run-on sentence i've ever seen in my life :P
[01:09] <erisco> how can I get psd files to show up as thumbnails in nautilus?
[01:09] <Danish989> I did boot the live cd, and im installing ubuntu right now, I made a new partition and mounted it at "/" and I have 509MB left, how do I put that in a swap partition?
[01:09] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, It's dumb to say that you'll be invincible, but it's very unlikely
[01:09] <achandrashekar> Julolidine: I know this a stupidly obvious question..but you didnt accidently bump into the wireless network switch present on many laptops did you?
[01:09] <dmsuperman> Danish989, create a new partition in that space, and choose type swap
[01:09] <Shadow420> dmsuperman well english wasn't my best subject in school
[01:09] <dmsuperman> for the filesystem i mean, choose swap
[01:10] <Julolidine> achandrashekar, there isn't a network switch on the laptop
[01:10] <achandrashekar> Julolidine: k..had to ask.. :)
[01:10] <ds_> Someone help?  With 7.10 fresh install getting internet to work
[01:10] <Danish989> I cant choose swap it just says primary and logic, no swap
[01:10] <ds_> I don't know how to get the network card going
[01:10] <MrStitch> dmsuperman, I agree, that nothing is impossible. I'm just trying to get the basics here. I understand that ANYTHING is possible.
[01:10] <Pelo> ds_, was kind of internet ?
[01:10] <ds_> DSl
[01:10] <PzyBorG> Hi, does anyone know how to generate a /var/lib/alsa/asound.state file with the ubuntu live cd? i need it to replace the one on my hdd installation, since audio only works with the live cd, and not the full installation.
[01:10] <ds_> DSL..I know the internet works
[01:10] <ds_> just...fresh install on this other comp
[01:10] <Pelo> ds_, you have your password and username ?
[01:11] <ds_> for the internet service yes
[01:11] <Shadow420> dmsuperman well this is a way to bypass the use of a system rescue cd or using windows CD to fix the MBR
[01:11] <owen1> can someone send me a message to test beeping?
[01:11] <ds_> Through Centurytel
[01:11] <Pelo> ds_, tourter or directly conected to the dsl model ?
[01:11] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, but yeah, more than likely you'll never run into any sort of malware. I've never heard of any at least. Mac got it's first major malware/spyware/virus a few months ago, and i haven't heard of anything for linux yet
[01:11]  * PzyBorG is hoping that will fix my audio problem.
[01:11] <MrStitch> What about Javascript based baddies.... Java is suppose to be a cross-platform kind of thing, isn't it? Would I be at risk of those?
[01:11] <ds_> directly
[01:11] <PzyBorG> s/my/his
[01:11] <Pelo> ds_, open a terminal windows and type sudo pppoeconf
[01:11] <reya276> dmsuperman: I was missing this "gid=46" and now I can read/write the files on the drive
[01:11] <dmsuperman> Shadow420, you realize that many people don't have floppies?
[01:12] <dmsuperman> reya276, congrats :D
[01:12] <reya276> dmsuperman: thanks
[01:12] <dmsuperman> reya276, no problems
[01:12] <Shadow420> MrStitch I wouldn't worry to much
[01:12] <owen1> can someone send me a message please? i am testing it?
[01:12] <ds_> ok
[01:12] <ds_> I typed the command
[01:12] <erisco> how can I get psd files to show up as thumbnails in nautilus?
[01:12] <Shadow420> dmsuperman well when I get my new computer it will have a floppy drive
[01:12] <MrStitch> wow... so, for the most part - I'm about 95-99% guarded against the usual junk out there?
[01:12] <littlepinkdot> Need a little help customizing a script, how can I change http://www.wiki.dreamhost.com/index.php/CURL any of those to allow me to enter the URL rather than having it fixed in the .php?
[01:13] <ds_> Eth0, Eth1, Eth0 : avah
[01:13] <dmsuperman> You're lucky. my new mobo that's coming in 2 days doesn't even have a floppy header
[01:13] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, pretty much
[01:13] <MrStitch> Thanks... and darn... I got that same dang error message again.
[01:13] <Draconicus> nickrud: Sorry, I must have missed your comment earlier about my sources.list
[01:13] <dmsuperman> littlepinkdot, using mod_rewrite in apache will accomplish that
[01:13] <Pelo> ds_, let it pick it
[01:14] <BizMan2008> amenado, hey ive narrowed my vnc probelm to ssh
[01:14] <nickrud> Draconicus was away for a while, did you paste a new version
[01:14] <BizMan2008> i just dont know what in it would cause this
[01:14] <Pelo> MrStitch, what's the error msg ?
[01:14] <Shadow420> dmsuperman well once I figure out the proper way to make a personal grub CD then I will make a guide for that
[01:14] <dmsuperman> littlepinkdot, try like RewriteEngine on
[01:14] <dmsuperman> RewriteRule ^(.+?)$ index.php?args=$1
[01:14] <dmsuperman> in your .htaccess
[01:15] <Scunizi> MrStitch, one of your primary protections is not being in Administrator mode like most windows users.. also "bugs" have to understand your system to do things.. they like windows.
[01:15] <MrStitch> ata1 failed to respond. gunna switch something in the bios and see if I can get a different message.
[01:15] <littlepinkdot> dmsuperman, how exactly does that help me?
[01:15]  * Pelo reads what dmsuperman just typed and his jaw drops 
[01:15] <BizMan2008> hey guys im trying to vnc through ssh,(from putty to my linux box), i have no problem on other machines iwth the same setup, but on my one machine in particular, i cant connect through vnc, it tells me connection initialized and then it stops
[01:15] <dmsuperman> littlepinkdot, that will redirect all requests to a folder to index.php?args=WHATEVER
[01:15] <dmsuperman> so
[01:15] <BizMan2008> ive narrowed it down to it being something with my ssh, putty settings are ok and so are vnc
[01:16] <BizMan2008> but what in ssh would cause me not to connect
[01:16] <dmsuperman> yourhost.com/ASDF/CHEESE will load index.php?args=ASDF/CHEESE
[01:16] <dmsuperman> then you could explode on /
[01:16] <zoople> hey, has anyone else had problems with Java stuff on the web freezing up?
[01:16] <dmsuperman> and get each part
[01:16] <dmsuperman> Pelo: simple regular expressions :P
[01:16] <littlepinkdot> dmsuperman, heh not what I wanted to accomplish, thanks though.
[01:16] <Pelo> zoople, with flash stuff but not java
[01:16] <ds_> Pelo,
[01:16] <dmsuperman> littlepinkdot, oh, thought you were after pretty urls
[01:16] <Pelo> ds_, ?
[01:16] <zoople> ah ok Pelo, my flash is fine
[01:16] <ds_> I said it scanned 3 intercaees, but the concentrator did not respond
[01:16] <dmsuperman> zoople, no, java works fine for me
[01:16] <ds_> But it is connected
[01:17] <zoople> like, youtube it totally ok..but when i go to a java based chatroom, its really really slow and sometimes have to force quit
[01:17] <ds_> both computers (this and his ) are to the same gateway
[01:17] <dmsuperman> zoople, try making sure you have the latest java. go to the java website and get the latest jre
[01:17] <Pelo> you are connected to the net ? you can surf ? be happy
[01:17] <zoople> what version of java and browser u using?
[01:17] <Shadow420> dmsuperman so until then this for people who have computers with a floppy drive
[01:17] <littlepinkdot> dmsuperman, after making a script utilizing cURL to download files directly to the server
[01:17] <Pelo> ds_, are youusing a bridge modem or a router/modem ? with two comps connecetd to it ?
[01:17] <ds_> Pelo
[01:17] <ds_> Oh
[01:17] <Pelo> ds_, put my nick in the same line as the rest
[01:18] <dmsuperman> Shadow420, well for that purpose it works :D
[01:18] <Pelo> ds_, basicaly the command I gave you was for a bridge modem , ei one that only does the connecting and can only have one comp on it.
[01:18] <ds_> Pelo It's a centurytel modem with a USB output as well as an ether port...this comp is using Ether, his is connected to the USB
[01:19] <MrStitch> Scunizi, is this why every time I try to access the system in Ubuntu, it asks for a password? I mean... as part of the protection?
[01:19] <Scunizi> MrStitch, yes..
[01:19] <loufoque> e
[01:19] <ds_> How do I install USB drivers with CD?
[01:19] <Pelo> ds_, ah,  not sure how that works, I think it's a bridge modem and you can'T realy have two comps on it at once,  even if therer are technicaly two connectors,  you'll need a router
[01:20] <MrStitch> arg... same error again: ata1: port failed to respond (30 secs, Status 0xd0)
[01:20] <Pelo> ds_, try looking up the modem's model in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:21] <ds_> Pelo it shoudl work...This comp is dual boot Kubuntu/XP, his was XP...it worked well when I was either and his was XP...so if my comp can work - How can he install USB drivers if he has the CD
[01:21] <MrStitch> Well.... anyways. I can't seem to get the same error I had before, but I'll monkey with it when I get back. My girls wanna go for a walk... gotta do the 'dad' thing, ya know. ;)
[01:21] <ds_> Pelo I forgot how to 'run' a CD for it's drivers
[01:21] <Pelo> ds_, does his cd have drivers for linux on it ?
[01:22] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, psh, tell them to go get on the internet and learn more about ubuntu
[01:22] <Lokii-> i just triboot setup a xp/vista/kubuntu
[01:22] <dmsuperman> :P
[01:22] <MrStitch> ROFL
[01:22] <MrStitch> good idea... they'll probably fix it before I will
[01:22] <Lake> yacc: well thanks anyways then ! even with DMA, I am pretty sure that the combination of 550MHz along with PATA connection as well as the fact that it's streaming over a cheap 40$ D-link router helps the slow speed
[01:22]  * PzyBorG wonders if anyone knows how to generate a /var/lib/alsa/asound.state file with the ubuntu live cd.
[01:22] <ds_> Pelo yes
[01:23] <Pelo> ds_, put the cd in , copy the linux driver over to the desktop ,  see if there is a Read me file in it to tell you how to install
[01:23] <Pelo> PzyBorG, doesn the live cd make one ?
[01:23] <MrStitch> Oh man... now it's saying: SQUASHFS error: sb_bread failed reading block blah blah blah blah blah
[01:23] <PzyBorG> pelo: nope
[01:23] <MrStitch> ack.... ok... I'm going now. hahahha
[01:24] <biabia> using ubuntu with xfce desktop, can anyone recommend a better xterm client than X Terminal Emulator 0.2.6
[01:24] <Pelo> biabia, how about xterm itself ?
[01:24] <PzyBorG> there's one on the hdd installation, but not when i use the live cd, and i need it to get my audio working, since it only works with the live cd, and i've tried pretty much everything i can think of and find.
[01:24] <usser> biabia, well there eterm
[01:25] <Draconicus> nickrud: Yeah. Here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63120/   Nice 'n' clean. :P
[01:25] <usser> biabia, but its pretty much the same
[01:25] <biabia> ok and ok
[01:25] <biabia> hm
[01:25] <style23> still won't play dvd... sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh - tells me command not found
[01:25] <nickrud> Draconicus ohhh YEAH! Haven't seen one that clean in a while
[01:25] <Pelo> PzyBorG, type alsamixer in ther terminal and see what device it is using , best I can suggest
[01:25] <PzyBorG> -please- someone help, it's driving me insane!!
[01:25] <usser> !medibunt | style23
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about medibunt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <usser> !medibuntu | style23
[01:25] <ubotu> style23: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:25] <Draconicus> style23: Wouldn't be in the docs
[01:26] <usser> style23, install it from there
[01:26] <PzyBorG> tried that, didn't work - but thanks anyway. :)
[01:26]  * Pelo pushes PzyBorG over the edge
[01:26] <Draconicus> nickrud: Hehe. Right to the point, eh? Look good now?
[01:26] <nickrud> Draconicus but you might want to add universe and multiverse to -updates
[01:26] <nickrud> Draconicus yeah, easy to read, very nice
[01:26] <Draconicus> nickrud: I asked that earlier. was wondering. Gonna re-order the jumbled ones too, not that they matter.
[01:26]  * PzyBorG sticks his middle finger up @ pelo, & takes the 'thanks' back..
[01:27] <christoz> What is HTTP cache cleaner running on my system every 5 min?
[01:27] <Scunizi> christoz, do you have apache installed?
[01:28] <mrkeishii> whats up
[01:28] <ltcabral> hey ppl.. is there any irc channel for talking about latex?
[01:28] <christoz> Scunizi yes but have apache turned off already
[01:28] <smokeytheman> hello
[01:28] <christoz> Scunizi this is weird
[01:28] <Draconicus> nickrud: Updated perfectly.
[01:28] <Starnestommy> ltcabral: #latex ?
[01:28] <Pelo> ltcabral, have you tried #latex or myabe one with the name of a latex editor ?
[01:28] <Draconicus> nickrud: was giving bad repos before. Dunno why.
[01:29] <Scunizi> christoz, are you sure it's off?  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[01:29] <smokeytheman> i need some help as well if anyone is available
[01:29] <dmsuperman> Draconicus, I'm in awe of your sources.list
[01:29] <Pelo> smokeytheman, state the issue ifsomeone can they will try and help
[01:29] <Draconicus> dmsuperman: ...Really? -.o
[01:29] <nickrud> Draconicus not sure, without context
[01:29] <mrkeishii> how do you add the AWN Dock?
[01:29] <Draconicus> nickrud: Yeah. I didn't pay attention enough. Whatever it was, it's fixed now. :P
[01:29] <Scunizi> mrkeishii, sudo apt-get install awn
[01:29] <dmsuperman> Draconicus, yeah, mine's just this long ass list that I can't find crap in haha
[01:29] <mrkeishii> then
[01:29] <mrkeishii> ?
[01:29] <Pelo> Draconicus, we're in private voting on pinning it to the wall it,s so pretty
[01:30] <ltcabral> thx ill try those
[01:30] <christoz> Scunizi it's apache2ctl  stop actually but yes it's surely off
[01:30] <Scunizi> mrkeishii, applications/accessories/avant window manager.
[01:30] <Draconicus> Pelo: Ha.
[01:30] <bouma> well done, ubuntu is really easy to install, configure(only needed to change to the closed nvidia driver), and use. im seriously impressed :D
[01:30] <Draconicus> nickrud: Well, this is a great success. I now have some 40 jack-related packages instead of the measly handful I found before. Much better.
[01:30] <Scunizi> christoz, what's the ctl on the end.. I don't remember that.. but it's been a while.
[01:30] <mrkeishii> can't
[01:30] <mrkeishii> its say
[01:30] <Pelo> bouma, we'll pass it on
[01:31] <mrkeishii> could not find packages
[01:31] <christoz> Scunizi by this command i can start and and stop apache from any path
[01:31] <Pelo> mrkeishii, use synaptic, do a search for keywords
[01:31] <Schiz0|SD> Why is the mplayer version in Gusty (With the gusty-updates repo enabled) so old? It's using mplayer version 1.0r1, which was released in 2006. A newerversion was released in 2007. Is there a easy we to get the updated version?
[01:31] <mrkeishii> I just want to install AWN Dock
[01:31] <smokeytheman> whenever i try to install, uninstall or do anything with synaptic i get a jde error
[01:31] <Scunizi> christoz, without the /etc/yada/yada?
[01:32] <mrkeishii> but the problem is that I use the  sudo apt-get install awn
[01:32] <Pelo> mrkeishii, do a search on google there is a special repos for ubuntu for it
[01:32] <mrkeishii> but it says that there is no packages
[01:32] <christoz> Scunizi yes
[01:32] <mrkeishii> yeah
[01:32] <christoz> Scunizi without
[01:32] <mrkeishii> but i have a hard time installing them
[01:32] <usser> mrkeishii, sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[01:32] <mrkeishii> oh
[01:32] <mrkeishii> okay
[01:32] <usser> mrkeishii, np
[01:32] <Pelo> usser, beat me to it
[01:32] <sexcopter> hi, i have found a bunch of files in ~/.local/share/Trash which look like files I deleted (or thought were deleted) a long while back. Can anyone explain what they're doing there, and if I can just delete them from here?
[01:33] <usser> Pelo, hehe
[01:33] <Scunizi> christoz, ok.. sorry I don't have an answer.. maybe over at #ubuntu-server
[01:33] <mrkeishii> can't Usser
[01:33] <nickrud> sexcopter you can rm -r ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[01:33] <mrkeishii> not working
[01:33] <Pelo> sexcopter, wine uses that folder to delete to ,  leave it there in hardy it,s gonna be the default trash can,  you can delete the content however
[01:33] <christoz> np... thanks Scunizi
[01:34] <Pelo> mrkeishii, google
[01:34] <mrkeishii> okay
[01:34] <usser> !not working
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about not working - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <dmsuperman> sexcopter, they're in your Trash
[01:34] <Draconicus> nickrud: Dare I compact and uncomment those mysterious eye-candy sources? I plan on fixing Beryl up soon.
[01:34] <Pelo> mrkeishii, google for avant window navigator ubuntu
[01:34] <dmsuperman> sexcopter, because you deleted them there :P
[01:34] <usser> mrkeishii, oh are u running gutsy?
[01:34] <dmsuperman> sexcopter, so you can just empty your trash, or delete them from there
[01:34] <sexcopter> Pelo: understood, thanks a lot
[01:34] <usser> mrkeishii, sorry its not in the repos in gutsy
[01:34] <nickrud> Draconicus beryl is dead, compiz-fusion is it's replacement, comes by default with gutsy
[01:34] <mrkeishii> yeah
[01:34] <mrkeishii> oh
[01:34] <mrkeishii> okay usser thanks though
[01:35] <Pelo> dmsuperman, the default trash in gusty and before is  ~/.Trash ,
[01:35] <usser> mrkeishii, u'll have to get from someplace else
[01:35] <sexcopter> dmsuperman: I don't think it's linked with my trash in the bottom right corner, but Pelo's response explains that
[01:35] <dmsuperman> sexcopter, Pelo, ah
[01:35] <Pelo> sexcopter, you use wine ?
[01:35] <Draconicus> nickrud: I know, but fusion is a lot heavier on the resources and my poor old computer can't handle some of its nifty features. Disabling them doesn't make them go away - it only stops their graphical stuff.
[01:35] <style23> Draconicus how to you active decryption
[01:35] <mic21__> hi, I use "Connect to server ..." to connect a SSH server and I can't acces a directory with "drwxrws---" permissions. The user is member of the group and with scp there are no problems.
[01:35] <bouma> in synaptic, what does the ubuntu icon mean, when next to a package ? does that mean its a recommended version ?
[01:35] <sexcopter> Pelo: yeah, and a lot of the files are from utorrent, which runs under wine, so it makes sense
[01:35] <nickrud> Draconicus beryl at your own risk then
[01:35] <sexcopter> Pelo: I deleted them :)
[01:36] <smokeytheman>  whenever i try to install, uninstall or do anything with synaptic i get a jde error
[01:36] <xiko> hi. I need help to configure grub to acess my 2nd sata HD with windows. Can anyone help me?
[01:36] <Pelo> sexcopter, same thing I did,  I'M a ut use to
[01:36] <Draconicus> nickrud: Heh. I'm only having some trouble getting it to play nice with the latest emerald. Borders aren't showing up despite proper configuration...
[01:36] <Starnestommy> bouma: I think it means that it's in the main repository and is officially supported
[01:36] <PzyBorG> hmm, does anyone know how to change the # a module is used by?
[01:36] <Pelo> sexcopter, did you fix the "theme" in ut ?
[01:36] <style23> how do you active dvd decryption?
[01:36]  * PzyBorG needs to try change one from zero to one.
[01:36] <Killeroid> style23: libdvdcss2
[01:36] <Draconicus> nickrud: Beryl runs like a dream on my Feisty laptop with a slow P4 and a GeForce 2 Go. :P
[01:36] <Pelo> !dvd | style23
[01:36] <ubotu> style23: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:36] <jrib> !dvd > style23 (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:36] <sexcopter> Pelo: not sure what you mean. what is/was wrong with the theme?
[01:36] <style23> I have that installed
[01:36] <usser> style23, just follow the guide on medibuntu.org
[01:37] <sexcopter> Pelo: all I know is the system tray icon is temperamental
[01:37] <nickrud> Draconicus I skipped beryl myself, too buggy for me.
[01:37] <style23> usser I did
[01:37] <Draconicus> nickrud: Heh. Are you using an ATI card or something? :P    Works beautifully for me.
[01:37] <style23> still totem says its missing a plugin.. should I restart x
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> smokeytheman, sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[01:37] <Pelo> sexcopter, by default , wine aps look like win95 , I can tell you how to make them match your theme
[01:37] <xiko> hi. I need help to configure grub to acess my 2nd sata HD with windows. Can anyone help me?
[01:37] <nickrud> Draconicus you cracked my box ??!!
[01:37] <usser> style23, did this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-57a5050d451985de1b87ea87a3ccc1a4895e57d3
[01:37] <jrib> style23: reinsert the dvd
[01:37] <Trick|Mobile> hey guys,whats the best program for virtualiaztion w/ ubuntu as the host? virtual,qemu,etc?
[01:38] <Trick|Mobile> vmware server?
[01:38] <mrkeishii> any answers in installing AWN for 7.10
[01:38] <sexcopter> Pelo: thanks, but I'm not that bothered. I don't have a lot of time right now.
[01:38] <Draconicus> nickrud: Bwuh? :P
[01:38] <Pelo> sexcopter, about the tray icon , hve you updated wine to the latest  0.9.58 ? the tray stuff works pretty well since about .0.9.50
[01:38] <Jangari> Is there a way I can configure the system to startup after a combination of keyboard events?
[01:38] <Starnestommy> Trick|Mobile: I normally use kvm, but virtualbox is easier to use and has more features
[01:38] <Jangari> I have a machine with no power switch
[01:38] <Pelo> sexcopter,  I can just send you my file, it matches human and basic clearlook
[01:38] <Draconicus> Jangari: Start up? Heh. Are you on a Mac?
[01:38] <mark[oz]> what is the lightest weight ubuntu version out?
[01:39] <Jangari> meh, whatever your non-proprietary term is
[01:39] <nickrud> Jangari that would have to be done in bios
[01:39] <talntid> xubuntu
[01:39] <style23> jrib i'm hearing audio but no picture
[01:39]  * PzyBorG would say virtualbox aswell.
[01:39] <Scunizi> mark[oz], xubuntui
[01:39] <usser> mrkeishii, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581620 take a look here
[01:39] <DG19075> Pelo:I'd love that file for Wine as well. Default looks so drab...
[01:39] <Jangari> okay, nickrud, so it is possible then
[01:39] <Scunizi> mark[oz], * xubuntu or server.. server has no gui
[01:39] <Trick|Mobile> ok thanks Starnestommy
[01:39] <bouma> Starnestommy: also, lets say i mark gfortran-4.2 for install and it wants several other packages too, if/when i remove gfortran how can i know which other packages to remove to get back to the previous state ?
[01:39] <Pelo> Jangari, some mobo can let you specify actions for suspend power keys on keyboard
[01:39] <Draconicus> Jangari: No, I mean, that's a very silly thing to expect Ubuntu to do, seeing as Ubuntu is not running until it's on.
[01:39] <smokeytheman> david@annabelle:~$ sudo  apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebini
[01:39] <smokeytheman> Reading package lists... Done
[01:39] <smokeytheman> Building dependency tree
[01:39] <smokeytheman> Reading state information... Done
[01:39] <smokeytheman> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[01:39] <FloodBot2> smokeytheman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <smokeytheman>   pastebinit
[01:39] <mark[oz]> thanks
[01:39] <nickrud> Jangari if you have no power switch, I would hope your bios provides some way to turn it on :)
[01:39] <Scunizi> mark[oz], np.. got an older machine?
[01:39] <sexcopter> Pelo: errr, I have version 1.7.7...
[01:39] <Pelo> DG19075, hold on
[01:39] <usser> boubbin, sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:39] <xiko> guys. Ive got trouble configuring grub. Can anyone help me please?
[01:40] <Jangari> at the moment i'm hotwiring the power switch's motherboard adapter
[01:40] <usser> boubbin, gets rid of unneeded dependencies
[01:40] <Pelo> sexcopter, www.winhq.org get the repos and upgrade man
[01:40] <Jangari> but that isn't sustainable
[01:40] <bouma> usser: was that for me ?
[01:40] <Pelo> sexcopter, that's the utorrent version I qwas talkinga bout wine
[01:40] <millertime_018> soreau?
[01:40] <mark[oz]> Scunizi, nah at work I have to use windows.. so I want to vm ubuntu.. but ubuntu is slow as hell and I thought maybe there was a stripped down version of gnome I could use, e.g. ubuntu-lite
[01:40] <Draconicus> Jangari: ...Wha? Sustai... stop making up terminology and learn what you're talking about!
[01:40] <usser> bouma, whops yea
[01:40] <mark[oz]> but I'll give xfce another try
[01:40] <Jangari> it's a naked mobo going in an arcade game table
[01:40] <mrkeishii> thanks again usser
[01:41] <usser> mrkeishii, no problem
[01:41] <sexcopter> oh, I'm on 0.9.45, because of warcraft which is broken after .45
[01:41] <Pelo> DG19075, accept the file and put it in ~/.wine
[01:41] <Jangari> i ripped off the power switch from the motherboard without realising
[01:41] <bouma> usser: thanks, so autoremove, does that also need the package name
[01:41] <Draconicus> Jangari: This is not a hardware channel. We can't help you here.
[01:41] <Scunizi> mark[oz], we're you using the live cd?.. vm is much faster
[01:41] <usser> bouma, nope
[01:41] <Jangari> alright, no worries then'
[01:41] <DG19075> got it, thanks!
[01:41] <smokeytheman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63123/
[01:41] <Draconicus> Jangari: Try #hardware :P
[01:41] <Pelo> sexcopter, it's likely fixed by now , upgrade in confidence
[01:41] <Pelo> DG19075, you'll need to restart wine
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Jangari, are you making a mame machine?
[01:41] <DG19075> np
[01:41] <Jangari> yes Jack_Sparrow
[01:42] <Jangari> restoring an old donkey kong table
[01:42] <Draconicus> Jack_Sparrow: Holy crap. How did you guess that?
[01:42] <sexcopter> Pelo: I just tried .58, and hosting games doesn't work still (and same for other people too) :(
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Jangari, gimme a minute. I can help
[01:42] <Pelo> sexcopter, ok then
[01:42] <smokeytheman> Jack_sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63123/
[01:42] <mark[oz]> Scunizi, I was vm... I've been using ubuntu for since badger... I get it all.. I was hoping someone would know of a gnome-lite version..
[01:42] <Jangari> but i'll have to splash out on a new mobo anyway, my old laptop one won't fit
[01:42] <style23> jrib at this site https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.htm #2 tells you to activate DVD decryption when I copy and paste that command in the terminal. I get command not found
[01:42] <Jangari> miniITX look like they'll do the job alright
[01:43] <Scunizi> mark[oz], you could try gebuntu.. it uses enlightenment
[01:43] <mark[oz]> thanks I'll check it out
[01:43] <Pelo> sexcopter, I would enquire about that network game thing in #winehq,  it seems a rather big thing to leave unfixed since 0.9.47
[01:43] <Kill_X> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/216891 <-- could anyone test if this one is present in < 8.04 ?
[01:43] <Odd-rationale> Scunizi: I beleive it has been renamed to openGEU
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> smokeytheman, are you running gutsy.. have you added any repos manually...
[01:43] <Kill_X> would be great :)
[01:44] <Jangari> when is heron out?
[01:44] <Pelo> Kill_X,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:44] <smokeytheman> im on 7.10
[01:44] <Pelo> Jangari, 24
[01:44] <Jangari> ten whole days?
[01:44] <smokeytheman> i have added repos manually
[01:44] <Scunizi> Odd-rationale, ah.. ok.. didn't know that.. mark[oz] did you catch that?
[01:44] <sexcopter> Pelo: I've read some comments online, it's subtle and I am sure they know about it and are working on it
[01:44] <Pelo> smokeytheman, you re in the correct palce
[01:44] <Kill_X> Pelo: I need to know if that "bug" is present in 7.10 or earlier
[01:44] <shulman> I'm having a problem with video freezing/dying when I play more then one video at a time. The video on the whole screen either freezes or turns bright green. I can only get rid of it by restarting Xorg. Can someone help diagnose the issue?
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Jangari,  /join #Jack_Sparrow so we do not disrupt the room
[01:44] <mark[oz]> yep thanks guys
[01:44] <usser> sexcopter, the bug's been there for 2 months almost
[01:45] <mrkeishii> I got IT
[01:45] <mrkeishii> Thanks
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> smokeytheman, you will need to pastebin the source.list manuallyh
[01:45] <xiko> hi. I need help to configure grub to acess my 2nd sata HD with windows. Can anyone help me?
[01:46] <Pelo> xiko, meet me in #grub
[01:46] <Kill_X> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/216891 <-- might someone please test that one? :)
[01:47] <xiko> Pelo: tx
[01:48] <smokeytheman> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63124/
[01:48] <samzilla> hey
[01:48] <samzilla> need a quick solution, i need to run a make command to compile a giant C++ project
[01:48] <samzilla> what C++ compiler can i install easily w/ like an apt-get
[01:48] <samzilla> i used cygwin on windows
[01:48] <samzilla> but now i just want to use linux
[01:49] <shulman> samzilla - try gcc++
[01:49] <samzilla> need a quick n esay one, im using server edition
[01:49] <samzilla> what is the command for gcc++
[01:49] <samzilla> download for it?
[01:49] <ravi> boooo!
[01:49] <ravi> yo, anyone here?
[01:50] <ravi> normally there's a lot more talk than this
[01:50] <icesword> haha
[01:50] <icesword> !gcc
[01:50] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[01:50] <samzilla> i just need a C++ compiler that has everying?
[01:50] <LeGreffi3R> samzilla> gcc is fine
[01:51] <LeGreffi3R> gcc++ doesn't exist
[01:51] <patrickva> I'm having a hard time gettin ubuntu installation to run
[01:51] <smokeytheman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63124/
[01:51] <samzilla> ok ill try it i guess!
[01:51] <patrickva> i installed a new Nvidia card and i keep getting errors with ubuntu installation mode
[01:51] <patrickva> anyone familiar with this problem?
[01:51] <shulman> Sorry... gcc++ is a seperate package elsewhere. gcc works fine in ubuntu for c++
[01:52] <icesword> patrickva, /msg ubotu drxx
[01:52] <icesword> patrickva, /msg ubotu nvidia
[01:52] <patrickva> um okay..
[01:52] <ravi> ugh... gcc... don't you get that?
[01:52] <ravi> :P
[01:52] <LeGreffi3R> shulman> it doesn't there are no separate "gcc++"
[01:53] <imaginativeone> how do I make ubuntu available to windows?
[01:53] <LeGreffi3R> all for C, C++, (every C style), fortran, are in gcc
[01:53] <ravi> imaginativeone: do you mean your hard drive contents?
[01:53] <imaginativeone> yes
[01:53] <ravi> imaginativeone: go to places > computer
[01:53] <ravi> imaginativeone: do you see your drives there?
[01:53] <ravi> imaginativeone: just double click and it should auto mount
[01:53] <imaginativeone> yes
[01:53] <Pelo> imaginativeone, goto www.digg.com  and do a search for linux partion windows there are a few areticles about it
[01:54] <LeGreffi3R> imaginativeone> google for "ext3 windows driver"
[01:54] <imaginativeone> thanks!
[01:54] <Pelo> ravi, the other way around
[01:54] <ravi> ah, ok :P
[01:54] <ravi> my bad
[01:54] <Pelo> np
[01:54] <bouma> could someone tell me the package for the workspaces switcher. i want to just update this package to hopefully fix a drawing bug, where it looks like its only counting to n-1 instead of n, and drawing the mini workspaces in half of the allocated space
[01:54] <shulman> LeGreffi3R -- SOrry, I was mistaken. Looks like gcc can handle c++
[01:54] <bouma> the gnome workspaces switcher
[01:54] <imaginativeone> the permissions could not be changed
[01:55] <Pelo> bouma, its part of gnome pannel , I don'T think it there is an idividual packge for it
[01:55] <ravi> imaginativeone: they will be ignored
[01:55] <shulman> LeGreffi3R: g++ might be a good thing to try as well.
[01:55] <ravi> imaginativeone: in windows, if you're trying to access files from Ubuntu in Windows
[01:56] <ravi> as a general note, I must say that sharing an NTFS drive between Ubuntu and Windows is much better as ntfs-3g driver is in much better shape than the ext2fs driver for Windows
[01:57]  * Pelo wondesr why he can't /ignore floodbot 
[01:57] <SoulBlade> my apologies.. i got disconnected before i could copy what the bot said... someone was kind enough to ask it how to add something simple to ubuntu's startup - i want to start synergyc before login
[01:57] <SoulBlade> can someone please issue the trigger again ?
[01:57] <LeGreffi3R> shulman> they will produce the same code.
[01:58] <LeGreffi3R> shulman> i even think gcc depends on g++
[01:58] <shulman> LeGreffi3R: OK.
[01:59] <Pelo> SoulBlade,  trigger for what ?%
[01:59] <dmsuperman> !startup ?
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startup ? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <dmsuperman> !startup
[01:59] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[01:59] <bouma> Pelo: how do i just do the gnome-panel, i tried, sudo apt-get upgrade gnome-panel, but it wants to upgrade about 200 packages
[01:59] <SoulBlade> !boot
[01:59] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[01:59] <SoulBlade> ah i think that's the one
[01:59] <SoulBlade> thanks
[01:59] <patrickva> Okay, I copied down the error information
[01:59] <dmsuperman> no problems :D
[01:59] <ravi> bouma: what the hell are you doing?
[01:59] <imaginativeone> do I need to log off?
[02:00] <Pelo> bouma, not sure ,
[02:00] <ravi> Pelo: nice way of putting it :)
[02:00] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, are you using samba to share now?
[02:00] <Pelo> bouma, check in synaptic, there might be a package for panel aps,
[02:00] <TwinX> bouma; apt-get install --reinstall gnome-panel  might work
[02:00] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, was this to share between linux and windows on the same pc?
[02:01] <bouma> ravi: i want to just upgrade gnome panel, cause it has a drawing bug, im on a slow wimax and have limited quota so want to wait till i get the other packages from another fast conn in a few days time
[02:01] <imaginativeone> the former
[02:01] <imaginativeone> I want to save my iTunes downloads on my much larger linux pc
[02:01] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, did you specify on the linux computer that it should have write access?
[02:01] <ravi> bouma: ah, ok.. you can try the reinstall trick by TwinX but you can't really do much if the rest of the stuff is prerequisites
[02:02] <imaginativeone> tried, but rejected by ubuntu
[02:03] <dmsuperman> So the shared folder in Ubuntu does have the write permission checked then
[02:03]  * Pelo wonders why , since OSX is based on BSD, can't itune be simply ported to linux 
[02:03] <ravi> Pelo: hahaha
[02:03]  * ravi laughs at the thought of Apple being open
[02:03] <dmsuperman> Pelo you're funny
[02:04] <Pelo> ravi, could just be a binary
[02:04] <imrook> Is anyone here familiar with MythTV on Ubuntu?
[02:04] <Cahan> Pelo, because of Cocoa
[02:04] <ravi> cocoaaaaaaaaa puffs
[02:04] <dmsuperman> Pelo, Apple only ported it to windows so they could get into the huge windows user base with the iPod and online music sales
[02:04] <dmsuperman> Pelo, They make good products, but they're just as silly as Microsoft
[02:05] <Cahan> and because Apple are strongly against any sort of open standards, they are worse than Microsoft in that regard
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Draconicus, Lucky guess....  bbl.. gotta start dinner.. I got him well on his way with that game box
[02:05] <Pelo> dmsuperman,  I don,t think they are good but they are pretty
[02:05] <dmsuperman> Has anybody ever used notepad++ in windows?
[02:05] <Cahan> yes dmsuperman
[02:05] <ravi> dmsuperman: yep
[02:05] <dmsuperman> Cahan, do you know a good linux alternative?
[02:05] <dmsuperman> I tried bluefish but it just doesn't have the same features as notepad++
[02:05] <reya276> dmsuperman: do you have any idea how I can uninstall a compiled driver
[02:05] <Cahan> dmsuperman, geany
[02:05] <Pelo> dmsuperman, you no like gedit ?
[02:05] <bruenig> dmsuperman: vim
[02:05] <dmsuperman> Pelo, lol
[02:06] <Cahan> dmsuperman, or kate
[02:06] <ravi> dmacnutt: if you don't want to move, you can go with notepad++ in Wine
[02:06] <goodspeed> leafpad?
[02:06] <bruenig> ubuntu is a good alternative to linux if that is what you meant by linux alternative
[02:06] <nickrud> emacs, best of all
[02:06] <dmsuperman> bruenig, I need a mouse for my editing
[02:06] <Pelo> dmsuperman, stop laughing at me and look in the menues
[02:06] <ravi> dmsuperman: sorry, look at above message for dmacnutt
[02:06] <nickrud> bruenig you are funny ;)
[02:06] <Pelo> bruenig, go back to #archlinux , we told you to stop trolling in here
[02:06] <dmsuperman> Pelo, does it have tabs, syntax highlighting, collapsible code blocks, regular expression find and replace?
[02:06] <bruenig> Pelo: you know I love ubuntu, come on
[02:07] <dmsuperman> Pelo, and as far as apple products, they aren't good for you or I but for the people they're designed for, they're fantastic
[02:07] <Pelo> dmsuperman,  yes on tabs, yes on syntax and replace, not sure about the other one
[02:07] <dmsuperman> Cahan, thanks for the suggestions I'll try those out
[02:07] <ravi> Pelo: I like my iPhone just fine
[02:07]  * nickrud is sad that many people now think of ubuntu as linux, even though he loves ubuntu
[02:07] <bruenig> genay has these first three, not sure about regex search and replace
[02:07] <icesword> hahaha
[02:07] <dmsuperman> Pelo, reg exp find / replace, and collapsible code blocks?
[02:07] <Pelo> bruenig, I saw you trolling on diggs in the ubuntu threads as well,
[02:07]  * bruenig is happy ubuntu is a vacuum for such people
[02:07] <Cahan> nickrud, I feel the same about mIRC and IRC
[02:07] <hyphen> anyone want to answer a dual boot question?
[02:07] <dmsuperman> Pelo, collapsible blocks aren't necessary but regexp is
[02:08] <walkriver> test
[02:08] <bruenig> hyphen: I do
[02:08] <Pelo> dmsuperman, thjere is a find replace , but I don'T know about the collapsable thing , have a look
[02:08] <Pelo> dmsuperman,  I'M not a coder
[02:08] <ravi> bruenig: poor boy.. go run your ./configure make make installs all night if you would like :)
[02:08] <goodspeed> how many buntu we have now?
[02:09] <reya276> Pelo: can you help me solve an issue, I'm having, I followed these (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4253232&postcount=133) steps to compile and install these drivers for my wacom tablet but I realize that I do not need them, can you show me how to undo this?
[02:09] <bruenig> ravi: ? arch is binary
[02:09] <Pelo> goodspeed, 6 I think
[02:09] <goodspeed> wow
[02:09] <bruenig> hyphen: you had a question?
[02:09] <dmsuperman> Pelo, wow, I assumed that since it was the default editor it wouldn't have all these features
[02:09] <hyphen> ok cool... 2 drives... primary with winxp second with ubuntu. I need to dual boot these two operating systems without reinstalling anything and with MINIMAL changes made to the winxp drive. What is the best coarse of action?
[02:09] <ravi> bruenig: heheh.. for 4 progs?
[02:09] <dmsuperman> Pelo, pretty nice :D
[02:09] <mosno> bruenig: assuming the package your after is actually packaged!
[02:09] <bruenig> hyphen: you already have ubuntu installed on the second drive?
[02:09] <hyphen> *course
[02:09] <hyphen> yes
[02:09] <patrickva> Does anyone know why my Ubuntu goes to a BusyBox mode when I click to install it on the Splash screen?
[02:09] <reya276> Pelo: I went into the Hardy (Ubuntu+1) but they won't help me
[02:09] <Pelo> goodspeed, hold on , let me cound  u k x e , that is 4,  blue, flux, that makes 6, CE SE, that's 8,  studio 9 ,
[02:10] <dmsuperman> holy CRAP is this a lot better than i thought
[02:10] <Shpook> I'm trying to design a site locally, but only need Javascript, no PHP or databases. I thought the browser handled JS parsing, but Firefox won't run any JS locally. Is there an easy way to solve this?
[02:10] <patrickva> I get this error
[02:10] <Pelo> reya276, what was the issue ?
[02:10] <dmsuperman> Pelo, yet again I love you :P
[02:10]  * Pelo forgives dmsuperman for doudting him 
[02:10] <reya276> Pelo: I need to remove a wacom compiled driver
[02:10] <dmsuperman> Pelo, doubting*
[02:10] <bruenig> mosno: ?
[02:11]  * Pelo does not forgive the spelling correction 
[02:11] <patrickva> [132.633717] revalidation failed (errno=-5)
[02:11] <dmsuperman> haha
[02:11] <reya276> Pelo: due to this my wacom does not work properly
[02:11] <patrickva> That's what I get
[02:11] <patrickva> So can anyone help me out?
[02:11] <Pelo> reya276, ouch, that's a bit over my head
[02:11] <hyphen> would using ntldr be the best attack?
[02:11] <Pelo> reya276, jsut removing the module from modprobe doesn't do it ?
[02:11] <bruenig> mosno: how many packages minus -devs, -headers, and metapackages do you suppose you have?
[02:11] <reya276> Pelo: how do I do that?
[02:11] <hyphen> LOL Pelo
[02:11] <dmsuperman> but holy crap is that pink font annoying
[02:11] <imrook> hyphen: You need to install a bootloader.  Have you done that before?
[02:11] <Pelo> hyphen, ?
[02:12] <hyphen> no but I can try
[02:12] <ravi> uh...
[02:12] <imrook> hyphen: NTLDR or Grub are probably your best bets
[02:12] <Pelo> reya276, hyphen does not agree, he probabaly knows better ten I do
[02:12] <hyphen> Pelo... the nonforgivness of the spelling correctioon
[02:12] <patrickva> Does anyone know why my Ubuntu goes to a BusyBox mode when I click to install it on the Splash screen?
[02:12] <Pelo> hyphen, ah
[02:12] <patrickva> I get this error
[02:12] <patrickva> [132.633717] revalidation failed (errno=-5)
[02:12] <hyphen> I know nothing
[02:12] <hyphen> klol
[02:12] <dmsuperman> hyphen, just install grub, point it at your ubuntu and xp partitions, and you're set
[02:12] <nixnoob> can someone help me use git?  im totally lost...
[02:13] <hyphen> so winxp on the primary wont cause issues?
[02:13] <Shpook> Anyone know if I need to install LAMP to run Javascript locally?
[02:13] <imrook> nixnoob: Git has a steep learning curve.  What do you want to do?
[02:13] <Pelo> reya276,  lsmod  to see the module list, find the one you need to remove,  and then sudo modprobe -r  modulename  ( man modprobe for the corect option I'M not sure -r is the right one )
[02:13] <imrook> hyphen: They are one separate drives correct?
[02:13] <hyphen> im pretty sure grub in installed on the secondary already...
[02:13] <MrStitch> back
[02:13] <dmsuperman> hyphen, no.
[02:13]  * Pelo lost track of what it was doing 
[02:13] <nixnoob> imrook, i just want to be able to download libusb-1.0 from git and compile it for myself.... i kno how to compile but not how to get it from git?
[02:13] <hyphen> 2 seperate drives... NOT partitions
[02:13]  * bruenig lost track of what Pelo was doing
[02:14] <dmsuperman> hyphen, I just install GRUB to my MBR and point it at each
[02:14] <hyphen> ok so mbr on primary winxp drive
[02:14] <bruenig> hyphen: what dmsuperman said, install grub, edit menu.lst
[02:14] <Pelo> who wanted help with GIT ? there is a #git channel
[02:14] <imrook> hyphen: If you're going to use NTLDR, you'll need GRUB installed on your /boot partition and configure Win to chainload to GRUB.
[02:14] <CorbinFox> is there a boot command that turns off one of my cores?
[02:14] <imaginativeone> can I change the owner of my entire ubuntu machine?
[02:14] <Francesco> Tell me please powerful two-panel file manage with many features, like Total Commander for Windows.
[02:14] <hyphen> got ya\
[02:14] <nixnoob> imrook, heres the website where it tells the git repo but if i do git-fetch it says its not a git repo.... http://libusb.wiki.sourceforge.net/page/diff/Libusb1.0?v=144109
[02:14] <Pelo> Francesco, what ?
[02:14] <hyphen> I did read an article about that but it was so outdated
[02:14] <bruenig> Francesco: midnight commander
[02:14] <Orbixx|Mob> Trying to enable broadcom firmware. It says the software source for the package bcm43xx-fwcutter is not enabled. Advice?
[02:14] <imrook> nixnoob: You'll use git clone git://someurl somedir
[02:15] <dmsuperman> hyphen, just google "ubuntu livecd grub"
[02:15] <Pelo> CorbinFox, try researching that in the forum www.ubuntutorums.org
[02:15] <hyphen> ok i'll look into that, thank you guys
[02:15] <dmsuperman> i think the first result should set you straight for installing it, and pointing it to your ubuntu
[02:15] <nomical> ubuntuforums
[02:15] <hyphen> oh so I can do it from a live cd?
[02:15] <scottyL> Shpook: Javascript isn't a part of L(ynux)A(pache)M(ySQL)P(HP)
[02:15] <hyphen> way cool
[02:15] <bruenig> P doesn't necessary mean PHP
[02:15] <dmsuperman> hyphen, then just edit menu.lst and add a record for xp
[02:15] <Francesco> How about GUI file manager?
[02:15] <bruenig> gui?
[02:15] <CorbinFox> Pelo: fine, make me not be lazy :P
[02:15] <hyphen> ok sweet thank you
[02:15] <scottyL> bruenig: OK... P(ython) :)
[02:16] <reya276> ok that removed the wacom module
[02:16] <bruenig> Francesco: not with that kind of power
[02:16] <reya276> Pelo: ’╗┐ok that removed the wacom module
[02:16] <Pelo> Francesco, check in add/remove , you'll be surprised what is available
[02:16] <nixnoob> imrook, you are the man thanks
[02:16] <Pelo> reya276, ;-)
[02:16] <imrook> np
[02:16] <Orbixx|Mob> Trying to enable broadcom firmware. It says the software source for the package bcm43xx-fwcutter is not enabled. Advice?
[02:16] <bruenig> I think the assumption is if you are using gui, you are not interested in such confusing things as features
[02:16] <dmsuperman> scottyL, Javascript is in the Apache portion. It serves up HTML pages, which can include JavaScript and CSS
[02:16] <Shpook> scottyL: That I knew, but someone else suggested it to me. I figured that since the browser is what parses JS, then it should work locally.
[02:16] <Pelo> reya276, I think there is away to blacklist it so it doesn't get readded when you boot again ,  check in the manpage for modprobe
[02:16] <imrook> Has anyone used MythTV's nuvexport?
[02:17] <dmsuperman> scottyL, and of course PHP to help edit your HTML pages, but the common factor is Apache
[02:17] <Pelo> imrook, I think there is a mythtv channel
[02:17] <bruenig> are there any rules on ctcping in here? I am interested to see what irc clients people are using
[02:17] <scottyL> dmsuperman: Wlel, that's what I get for trying to address questions :)
[02:17] <Danish989> I have a big problem .. I just installed ubuntu and now when my computer starts it says Loading Grub Error 22
[02:17] <Danish989> and then it just stops there .. what do I do??
[02:17]  * CoasterMaster doesn't know the rules about ctcping, but he is using Xchat
[02:17] <imaginativeone> how do I get access to the permissions?
[02:17] <Pelo> bruenig, yes the rule is donT
[02:17] <bruenig> hmm
[02:18] <bruenig> !rules
[02:18] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:18] <Pelo> bruenig, LjL banned someone for it eariler
[02:18] <dmsuperman> scottyL, heh, just sticking my head into places it doesn't belong. I'm a web programmer, so I always feel the need to butt into web scripting convos haha
[02:18] <nomical> danish you may be running hardware not compatible with hubuntu
[02:18] <imrook> Pelo: Yes there is, but my problem seems to be specific to Ubuntu.  Some progs that are distributed with MythTV source appear to be missing from the mythtv-common Ubuntu package.  I'm wondering if there's another package I need to install to get them.  I think that puts my issue firmly in Ubuntu territory.
[02:18] <bruenig> hmm it does mention ctcps, odd
[02:18] <Danish989> I'm on from the ubuntu live cd right now
[02:18] <MrStitch> Here's a timeless question: I got some win games that I wanna play on my ubuntu box..... is that possible?
[02:18] <reya276> Pelo: Thanks, I will remove the wacom tools from synaptics and see if I can then re-install the repo ones
[02:18] <Pelo> imrook, there are mythtv repos for ubuntu I beleive,
[02:18] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, in the same Shared Folders panel, there's a checkbox for write access
[02:19] <bruenig> !wine | MrStitch
[02:19] <ubotu> MrStitch: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[02:19] <Pelo> !mythtv | reya276
[02:19] <ubotu> reya276: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[02:19] <CoasterMaster> MrStitch: It is indeed possible with wine
[02:19] <nomi1> mrstich there are dos emulators and windows emulators the windows emulator is called 'wine'
[02:19] <Danish989> I installed ubuntu on this computer and I was already running windows xp, I wanted a dual boot system, but now the first thing I get is "Loading GRUB Error 22" and nothing happens after that .. what is the matter?
[02:19] <dmsuperman> Danish989, It's pointing to the wrong partition
[02:19] <LjL> bruenig, a CTCP alerts you (with sounds, etc) on a few client, doing it to the channel is frowned upon, sorry
[02:19] <imrook> Pelo: Yeah, I've already been there with no luck.
[02:19] <MrStitch> application compatibility? such as....?
[02:19] <bruenig> oh are there beeps involved?
[02:19] <Danish989> dmsuperman, what do I do?
[02:19] <dmsuperman> Danish989, your menu.lst needs to point to your Ubuntu partition, and it's currently not
[02:19] <CoasterMaster> MrStitch, it lets you run Windows programs under Linux
[02:20] <Danish989> ok so what do I do?
[02:20] <Pelo> imrook, did you do a search in the repos using synaptic ?
[02:20] <Orbixx|Mob> Trying to enable broadcom firmware. It says the software source for the package bcm43xx-fwcutter is not enabled. Advice?
[02:20] <CoasterMaster> MrStitch, I have RollerCoaster Tycoon and SimCity 4 running in wine and it works pretty well
[02:20] <dmsuperman> Danish989, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[02:20] <nomi1> mrstich try it
[02:20] <bruenig> Orbixx|Mob: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, enable the sources
[02:20] <dmsuperman> Danish989, Follow those directions
[02:20] <nomi1> most things work fine
[02:20] <imrook> Pelo:I used apt
[02:20] <Orbixx|Mob> Not on a working internet connection.
[02:20] <MrStitch> Is it pretty stable, or is it kind of hit 'n miss on some games?
[02:20] <Orbixx|Mob> As wireless is down.
[02:20] <TheComrade> Does anyone know of a technique I could use where I could tag open windows with a shortcut so I could quickly switch between apps by going ctrl-alt-1, ctrl-alt-2, etc?
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb
[02:20] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[02:20] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, games are almost always not going to work
[02:20] <CoasterMaster> MrStitch, depends on the game, but the Wine website has a list of programs that work and don't work
[02:20] <Pelo> imrook, do you have a gui , try with synaptic it wiill just make the search easier, you can install with apt after if you want
[02:21] <imrook> Pelo: trying right now
[02:21] <bruenig> TheComrade: not in gnome, the only wms that have that sort of feature that I know of are tiling window managers like dwm, awesome, xmonad, etc.
[02:21] <Danish989> dmsuperman, thanks!
[02:21] <MrStitch> Is it the direct X thing that's causing problems?
[02:21] <dmsuperman> Danish989, no problem :D
[02:21] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, amongst other thing
[02:21] <MrStitch> i see
[02:22] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, It's hard to get a windows program running in ubuntu to begin with, but as the programs get larger and larger and more and more complicated, the less likely they are to run in wine
[02:22] <Hysteria> heya dudes. burning iso to cd now oooooo excited haha
[02:22] <TheComrade> bruenig: Thanks.  I just find it really bizarre that this sort of thing doesn't exist.
[02:22] <MrStitch> And I suppose the game would have to be completely re-written in order for it to work
[02:22] <Pelo> MrStitch, the wine ppl need to retro engineer windows basicaly , it's takes a lot of efffort
[02:22] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, things as simple as notepad++ even have their quirks
[02:22] <bruenig> TheComrade: it is gnome, that is to be expected
[02:22] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, generally, yes
[02:22] <CoasterMaster> I got SimCity 4 working in wine and it runs pretty well aside from a few graphical glitches
[02:22] <dmsuperman> Pelo, do you know how I can change the colors of the syntax highlighting in gedit?
[02:22] <dmsuperman> Pelo, hot pink is not a very attractive color to look at :P
[02:23] <ravi> dmsuperman: check the menu
[02:23] <TheComrade> bruenig: I would settle if even the normal task switcher would not re-order the window order
[02:23] <CoasterMaster> dmsuperman, Edit -> Preferences -> Fonts & Colors
[02:23] <MrStitch> I see. So there just needs to be more support. How many Ubuntu users do you think are out there?
[02:23] <Pelo> dmsuperman, no sorry , but it does colour code for several languages
[02:23] <bruenig> TheComrade: use another window manager, problem solved
[02:23] <CoasterMaster> MrStitch, it's a tough thing to write.....and they've been writing it for almost 15 years
[02:23] <Pelo> dmsuperman, check in menu > display > coloration
[02:23] <dmsuperman> CoasterMaster, Is there a way to edit each color and font for every part of the syntax? or do i just get to use the color packs?
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> guys can we move the wine / discussion to the #Ubuntu-offtopic room
[02:24] <TheComrade> bruenig: That will be what I'll have to do, though in that case I'll probably go back to Gentoo, if I'm going to lose the easy eye candy anyway.
[02:24] <dmsuperman> Or even to #winehq
[02:24] <CoasterMaster> dmsuperman, there's a way to load custom schemes so I'd imagine there's a way to do it
[02:24] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, no we cannot ,sorry you'll have to move the rest to #ubuntu-offtopic yourself
[02:24] <nomi1> i thought games used like DOS4GW
[02:24] <nomi1> booted off the disk
[02:25] <nomi1> nothing to do with windows
[02:25] <MrStitch> Jack: Actually, it pertained here.... for my purposes. I'm just now learning more about Ubuntu, and I'm literally on day 2 with the software.
[02:25] <bruenig> TheComrade: good diea
[02:25] <dmsuperman> CoasterMaster, Alright, I'll look where it keeps it's default themes for reference. Thanks :D
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, behave.
[02:25] <dmsuperman> Pelo, lol
[02:25] <CoasterMaster> dmsuperman, you might want to check out https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+question/14370 as well
[02:25] <bruenig> TheComrade: if you like binary packages though, should give arch a shot
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> MrStitch, understood.  but you are not asking for help getting it to work or for help with a specific problem
[02:25] <dmsuperman> I want to know why it is that floodbot gets to constantly flood the channel without kicking itself
[02:25] <dmsuperman> exactly
[02:25]  * Pelo has downloaded and watch 4 crappy movies today he's not in a mood 
[02:25] <dmsuperman> stop flooding floodbot!
[02:26] <bruenig> Pelo: theft?!?
[02:26] <Gatestone> How do I install vmware for Gutsy?
[02:26] <Pelo> bruenig, yes
[02:26] <dmsuperman> Pelo, Check out American Daze. It's on Netflix Instant View
[02:26]  * bruenig is disappointed in hair
[02:26] <Pelo> Gatestone,  check in add remove  there is vmware-server
[02:26] <hyphen> ok one more quick one. I have grub installed. And looking at the menu.lst there is no entry for windows and ubuntu is listed as hd0,0 so that means ubuntu is on my primary, correct? and I had it reversed
[02:26] <nomi1> gatestone theres probably a README on the disk
[02:26]  * dmsuperman thinks back to the private convo Pelo and I had yesterday
[02:26] <MrStitch> point taken, was asking for other information while I was re-creating the problems I'm having. Computer doesn't reboot in 2 seconds ya know. hahaha
[02:26]  * Pelo hangs his head in shame 
[02:26]  * dmsuperman wonders what kind of role model says one thing and does another :P
[02:26]  * bruenig thinks back to the private convo dmsuperman and Pelo had yesterday
[02:26] <dmsuperman> bruenig, wtf you weren't even there
[02:26] <dmsuperman> :P
[02:26] <TheComrade> bruenig: I will check it out. Thanksya.
[02:27]  * bruenig realizes that he wasn't even there
[02:27]  * Pelo wonders why he ever gave up @ , it would come in realy usefull right abut now
[02:27]  * ravi realizes there are too many of these messages
[02:27] <bruenig> what is this role modelling thign? does ubuntu have some irc big brother program?
[02:27]  * dmsuperman wonders why everybody is wondering outloud
[02:27]  * MeatGrinder realizes he doesn't know what the h*ll they're talking about
[02:27] <icesword> hahah
[02:27]  * mosno speaks in the 3rd person for no good reason
[02:27]  * dmsuperman jumps up and down, just to keep the trend going
[02:27] <bruenig> Pelo: you should have passed it off to me for some good justice
[02:28] <hyphen> Am I correct in saying hd0,0 is the primary drive? <--- total noob
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> obviously someone spiked the punch at this party
[02:28]  * bruenig is very even handed with the hat
[02:28]  * Pelo gives bruenig a cookie
[02:28]  * ravi gonna go check some xkcd
[02:28] <dmsuperman> C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!!
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> hyphen, yes
[02:28] <hyphen> thanks
[02:28] <imaginativeone> damn I'm so close
[02:28] <TheComrade> oh Lord, that game bit.
[02:28]  * MeatGrinder is reminded he needs a beer...
[02:28] <MrStitch> arg... same problem as before. problem accessing ata1 (whatever that is), then a bunch of garbage, then it tells me unable to determine aperture size and failed File system check. I'm guessing the hardware is just too old to work on Ubuntu.... thoughts?
[02:28] <imaginativeone> how can I buy ubuntu support?
[02:28] <JDSBlueDevl> hi, can anyone tell me how stable the Hardy beta is?
[02:28] <nomi1> why would you want to imaginativeone
[02:28] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, paypal money directly to dmsuperman@gmail.com
[02:28] <Gatestone> Can I install Centos.iso to the vmware player, or do I need the vmware-server to install things from install diks images?
[02:29] <JDSBlueDevl> as in, if I upgrade now, is it going to work fine?
[02:29] <danbhfive> JDSBlueDevl: it may, it may not
[02:29] <MeatGrinder> imaginativeone, buy support?
[02:29] <bruenig> !ot | JDSBlueDevl
[02:29] <ChaosParser> JDSBlueDevl: Nope.
[02:29] <ubotu> JDSBlueDevl: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> MrStitch, HAve you tried some of the command line modifiers to get the live cd to boot
[02:29] <imaginativeone> so I can connect my file without so much hassle
[02:29] <Pelo> MrStitch, ata1 would be a hard drive , do you have an old one on that comp ?
[02:29] <icesword> dmsuperman, lol
[02:29] <nomi1> forums are better for questions you need to sit on
[02:29] <stercor> How do I start up a new window manager?  Like, put it into the startup procedure?
[02:29] <MeatGrinder> imaginativeone, it's free here!
[02:29] <bruenig> stercor: excellent freaking question
[02:29] <ChaosParser> !hardy
[02:29] <Pelo> imaginativeone, don'T upgrade , wait for it
[02:29] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[02:29] <bruenig> how does one do this I always wondered
[02:29] <dmsuperman> Pelo, he wasn't even planning on it. he wants to just use samba :P
[02:29] <danbhfive> JDSBlueDevl: calling hardy beta can be a bit deceptive, since serious problems CAN arise
[02:29] <imaginativeone> I'm just trying to see my ubuntu machine from windows
[02:30] <Pelo> stercor, it shoud have been added to gdm you can select it when you log in
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> stercor, install one and where you login you can select between them or set a default
[02:30] <bruenig> ubuntu doesn't do the .xinitrc fun, so how do you do this stuff
[02:30] <imaginativeone> it's not working - and now the icon has disappeared
[02:30] <MrStitch> Jack and Pelo: I don't know ANY commands. I'm a linux virgin. hahahah, and I don't have an ata hard drive installed. I have an on-board scsi system with two IBM scsi drives.
[02:30]  * ravi was floored by the IBM Power5 specs
[02:30] <bruenig> MrStitch: `dir` shows the context of the current directory
[02:30] <MeatGrinder> good luck with scsi, i still can't get ubuntu to recognize my adaptec card with cheetahs
[02:30] <junkie> Hey, does anyone else dual boot osx with ubuntu?
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> MrStitch, At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[02:31] <dmsuperman> !permissions
[02:31] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[02:31] <MrStitch> Actually, i HAD an ata in there when I was troubleshooting.... but disconnected it about an hour ago.
[02:31] <Pelo> MrStitch, I 'm not 100% sure but I think ata is what they call scsi now ,  it is having difficulties readign one of them
[02:31] <MeatGrinder> Pelo, ata is not scsi
[02:31] <Pelo> MrStitch, is that ata still listed in the bios ? that might be why you get the message it can't find it
[02:31] <stercor> Pelo, Jack_Sparrow: I compiled twm and xdm; much to my disappointment they didn't just magically appear on the bootup menu/screen. :-(
[02:31] <MrStitch> Pelo... that's beyond crazy. I'm a linux newb, not an idiot. hahahah
[02:31] <charles|64_> hey guys how do i check if my dvd rom drive is working right? in ubuntu. I can boot from it just fine but when i put a disk in nothing detects or happens
[02:32] <Pelo> MrStitch, also check in fstab if it is liste dthere
[02:32] <Francesco> where does apt-get cache archives?
[02:32] <junkie> I resized one of my partitions and ever since then I haven't been able to boot into linux, it's like my macbook doesn't see it.
[02:32] <AmyRose> How do I get Rhythmbox to stop prompting me to install the codecs? I already installed them using that dialog
[02:32]  * bruenig thinks that ubuntu should move to a user-drive .xinitrc setup for window managers
[02:32] <bruenig> driven*
[02:32] <Pelo> stercor, then don't appear you have to check in the session menu on the loggin screen,   restart x and check
[02:32] <firstohit> I am upgrading from Gutsy to Heron right now, will I lose any of my programs that I installed?
[02:33] <AmyRose> In fact, I'm even listening to an MP3 file right now and it's still prompting me to install the codec
[02:33] <charles|64_> hey guys how do i check if my dvd rom drive is working right? in ubuntu. I can boot from it just fine but when i put a disk in nothing detects or happens
[02:33] <Pelo> bruenig, you should be in #ubuntu-devel
[02:33] <Orbixx|Mob> Screwed up the resolution. Can't see a thing. Suggestions?
[02:33] <bruenig> firstohit: discrete releases are notably sketchy, so just cross your fingers really
[02:33] <dmsuperman> firstohit, no
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> stercor, you did check under option where you login right
[02:33] <Pelo> firstohit, vmware no longer works for me but the rest is fine
[02:33] <danbhfive> firstohit: You shouldn't
[02:33] <dmsuperman> firstohit, but don't plan on them staying there :P
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Orbixx|Mob, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg (to just set res) If you get locked out Select vesa as your video card and 1024 max res.  Use tab or enter to accept all other defaults
[02:33] <dmsuperman> Orbixx|Mob, "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:34] <Orbixx|Mob> Screwed up the resolution. Can't see a thing. Suggestions?
[02:34] <firstohit> i.i I have VMwareWorksttion and Wine and Compiz and Crossover , will those change?
[02:34] <MrStitch> ok, first off. Lets get to a command prompt to do these things. First, I have the disc in the cd drive, then I power it up and it boots from the cd. The Ubuntu screen pops up and asks if I want to install, and some other things. Where should I go from here?
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> MrStitch, F6
[02:34] <dmsuperman> !patience | Orbixx|Mob read these and also dmsuperman's and Jack_Sparrow's
[02:34] <ubotu> Orbixx|Mob read these and also dmsuperman's and Jack_Sparrow's: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:34] <bruenig> firstohit: these are non repo programs?
[02:34] <Pelo> Orbixx|Mob, screwed up how ?
[02:34] <firstohit> so will they be affected?
[02:34] <firstohit> What do you mean non repo ?
[02:34] <Orbixx|Mob> How do i boot into command line?
[02:34] <dmsuperman> firstohit, They shouldn't be affected, but as with all things beta it's possible
[02:35] <dmsuperman> Orbixx|Mob, Ctrl Alt F1
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Orbixx|Mob, recovery mode from grub menu
[02:35] <Orbixx|Mob> Thanks.
[02:35] <Pelo> Orbixx|Mob, on boot, right after the bios stuff hit the esc key,  that will  get you the grub menu, select the recovery mode,
[02:35] <charles|64_> hey guys how do i check if my dvd rom drive is working right? in ubuntu. I can boot from it just fine but when i put a disk in nothing detects or happens
[02:35] <bruenig> firstohit: it is certainly possible that you will have problems, the discrete release model has systemic problems with moving between releases due to the jump. You could have incompatible library versions, you could have other problems. There is no way to safeguard.
[02:35] <firstohit> Ok will this is April isn't time to upgrade. Will there be a smother upgrade soon, should I wait or do it now?
[02:35] <bruenig> has nothing to do with "beta" has to do with the clumsy model
[02:36] <Pelo> charles|64_, do you see it in places > computer ?
[02:36] <dmsuperman> firstohit, wait til it's actually released, and even then i like to wait at least a few weeks to see if their are any major problems
[02:36] <imaginativeone> please help
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> charles|64_, did you burn the iso as a single file or as a disk image
[02:36] <dmsuperman> firstohit, usually if there are major problems there will be a massive outrage, then it will be fixed, then it's good to upgrade safely
[02:36]  * Pelo thinks dmsuperman is trying to become the new Pelo
[02:36] <Pelo> imaginativeone, what with ?
[02:36] <dmsuperman> Pelo, why do you say that?
[02:37] <dmsuperman> Pelo, because I'm trying to help?
[02:37] <stercor> shutting down and restarting xdm didn't do anything new.
[02:37] <firstohit> Ok, how can I know when is time to upgrade?
[02:37] <bruenig> poor blippy solutions
[02:37] <dmsuperman> firstohit, read my message :P
[02:37] <Pelo> dmsuperman, help , waiting before upgradeing,  ets
[02:37] <stercor> firstohit: two weeks after the release date.  You can always tell the pioneers.  They're the ones with arrows in their backs.
[02:37] <dmsuperman> Pelo, heh, it's just common sense for the upgrading
[02:37] <Pelo> bruenig, be nice
[02:38] <dmsuperman> Pelo, it's why I still haven't upgraded my windows box to vista, nor will I with XP being continued until beyond release of Windows 7
[02:38] <bruenig> firstohit: look, the problem is with the model. Discrete releases will always be dangerous. Some will tell you not to take to hit and destruction and let others do it, but even then, the model is always sketchy. Whether you do it now or later, discrete release is discrete release, so I would just go for it especially if there is something in the new release that you can't access.
[02:38] <firstohit> I will wait, I am not in hurry everything is working now, How do I know about the release?
[02:38] <charles|64_> hey guys how do i check if my dvd rom drive is working right? in ubuntu. I can boot from it just fine but when i put a disk in nothing detects or happens
[02:38] <MrStitch> Ok, I pressed F6, and I still have all my options, but this little line of text popped up at the bottom right of the sreen. It says: Boot Options :casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash--
[02:38] <con-man> so its on discrete release right now?
[02:38] <dmsuperman> firstohit, I'm sure you could just watch ubuntu.com
[02:38] <Pelo> charles|64_, can you see a dvd drive listed in  Places > computer ?
[02:39] <imaginativeone> Pelo, I need help with seeing ubuntu from windows
[02:39] <Pelo> imaginativeone, hold on
[02:39] <philidox> hey
[02:39] <danbhfive> imaginativeone: is this samba?
[02:39] <dmsuperman> !samba | imaginativeone
[02:39] <bruenig> con-man: it has always been on discrete release.
[02:39] <ubotu> imaginativeone: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[02:39] <Nasra> !pastebin
[02:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[02:39] <philidox> does anyone have any knowledge on ubuntu mobile?
[02:39] <imaginativeone> danbhfive: yes
[02:39] <MEtaLpREs> does anyone know if adobe plans on fixing flash player at some point so it stops crashing firefox?  i just got a flash player update a couple days ago but it didnt fix the problem
[02:40] <sudobash> imagineativeone TCP/IP is the same for windows and NIX
[02:40] <danbhfive> imaginativeone: http://www.europe.eclipse.co.uk/Ubuntu/Ubuntu-on-win-network.htm   you can try this site
[02:40] <Pelo> imaginativeone, http://www.howtoforge.com/access-linux-partitions-from-windows
[02:40] <MrStitch> no ideas?
[02:40] <rpj8> Hey, for whatever reason, a friend of mine wants to change the side the scroll bars around on (vertical scrollbars) in gtk. I guess because he's a lefty. Is there an easy line one can put into their .gtkrc.mine to switch them up?
[02:40] <imaginativeone> thanks
[02:40] <rpj8> are on*
[02:41] <firstohit> well, the reason I like to upgrade is because I want to install latest 169.12 nvidia driver from the 100 driver. I want to use envy to do it, but Envy says I shouls uninstall the driver before upgrading but Envy NG is for heron is does not require uninstalling,
[02:41] <dmsuperman[orang> firstohit, you could always copy your whole drive to a virtualbox drive, and upgrade in there
[02:41] <dmsuperman[orang> and see how it goes
[02:41] <Gzzrt> So are we allowed to ask support questions here?
[02:41] <mpalatnik> yes
[02:41] <bruenig> !envy | firstohit
[02:41] <usser> firstohit, envy is not a good idea
[02:41] <ubotu> firstohit: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See ┬½ /msg ubotu binarydriver ┬╗
[02:41] <dmsuperman[orang> !ask Gzzrt
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask gzzrt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <Danish989> dmsuperman, that didnt work, now I get this error : GRUB Loading stage1.5.
[02:41] <Danish989> GRUB loading, please wait...
[02:41] <Danish989> Error 22
[02:41] <bruenig> firstohit: more dangerous than jumping to the next release is using envy
[02:41] <Gzzrt> !ask ntfs partitions
[02:41]  * Pelo will break the fingers of then next person to trigger the bot 
[02:42] <dmsuperman[orang> Danish989, that means your menu.lst is still not pointing to the right drive. do you by chance have SATA drives?
[02:42] <n8tuser> Danish989--> do you have stage1_5 files in /boot/grub?
[02:42] <MrStitch> ouch
[02:42] <TwinX> !ntfs
[02:42] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[02:42] <bruenig> no regard
[02:42] <Pelo> !ntfs > Gzzrt check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[02:42] <charles|64_> hey guys how do i check if my dvd rom drive is working right? in ubuntu. I can boot from it just fine but when i put a disk in nothing detects or happens
[02:42] <Danish989> dmsuperman: yes I do have SATA drives
[02:42] <Pelo> charles|64_, do you pay attention ?
[02:42] <firstohit> how much am I missing I have the 100.14.19 and latest is 169.12?
[02:42] <dmsuperman[orang> Danish989, and do you have 2 of them?
[02:42] <dmsuperman[orang> Danish989, at least?
[02:42] <Danish989> yes, 2 of them
[02:43] <firstohit> my card is GeForce 6200 A-LE
[02:43] <charles|64_> Pelo: what did i miss?
[02:43] <Danish989> dmsuperman[orang: yes, I have two, how did you know that?
[02:43] <dmsuperman[orang> Danish989, heh, exact same problem as I do. according to BIOS, my system drive and storage drives are reversed, with System being second and Storage being first.
[02:43] <Nasra> jack_Sparrow: how do I use Ubuntu pastebin ...to paste some text in the channel of in another word ...that part where it says Syntax: what do I choose in there so I can paste in....
[02:43] <Tyr> Hi folks
[02:43] <linkinxp> i had to turn Gnome in safemode, cause when i go in normal mode my screen goes gray and i cant see the windows
[02:43] <Pelo> charles|64_, check in the places menu under  my computer, do you see a cd drive listed there
[02:43] <dmsuperman[orang> Danish989, In your menu.lst, change it from hd1,X to hd0,X
[02:43] <Danish989> dmsuperman, were you able to fix it?
[02:43] <dmsuperman[orang> for the entries
[02:43] <charles|64_> pelo no
[02:43] <IdleOne> Nasra: use text
[02:43] <Gzzrt> Does hardy heron still require you to mount partitions before you can read them?  I know that you need to, but if they show up in the file manager, shouldn't I be able to access them?
[02:44] <MrStitch> ok, I just went ahead typed 'dir' and it looks like it started initializing the installation. Will undoubtedly encounter the same problem.
[02:44] <Danish989> dmsuperman, can you give me the link to that thread again please? oh, and if possible, IM me private?
[02:44] <firstohit> How long before I can use the 169.12 driver safely?
[02:44] <Pelo> charles|64_, look in menu > system > prefs > hardware info ,  see if you can locate your cd/dvd drive in there
[02:44] <bruenig> firstohit: you can use it now if you want
[02:44] <Nasra> IdleOne: so use text ...okay ....then paste it...correct?
[02:44] <bruenig> firstohit: I am using the latest nvidia driver, no problems
[02:45] <charles|64_> pelo yes it in there
[02:45] <IdleOne> Nasra: yes paste whatever in the box then click paste at the bottom then give us the url?
[02:45] <Tyr> Can anyone help me with the graphic effects in ubuntu?
[02:45]  * Hysteria is to scared to put ubuntu iso into dvd drive and reboot computer
[02:45] <rpj8> !ask | Tyr
[02:45] <dmsuperman> firstohit, I'm using the 169.12 driver right now
[02:45] <ubotu> Tyr: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:45] <dmsuperman> Hysteria, DO IT
[02:45] <firstohit> so, should I go a head and install the latest nvidia driver on Gutsy for GeForce 6200 A-LE?
[02:45] <Hysteria> hahaha
[02:45] <IdleOne> Hysteria: why?
[02:45] <Pelo> charles|64_, ok so it is seen ,  check in menu > system > prefs > removable media, there are actons to be done when a cd is incerted
[02:45] <Danish989> dmsuperman? help? :(
[02:46] <rpj8> firstohit: If you want to yeah.
[02:46] <bruenig> firstohit: if you want to, what is this sillyness, this is linux, it is your computer, do what you want
[02:46] <dmsuperman> Danish989, see your tab, i'm talking to you in it :P
[02:46] <firstohit> Do I use the instruction from Nvidia website, bassically?
[02:46] <Hysteria> IdleOne: first time ever going to use linux
[02:46] <rpj8> bruenig: Howdy
[02:46] <bruenig> rpj8: hey
[02:46] <IdleOne> Hysteria: worst that will happen is the pc explodes :)
[02:46] <dmsuperman> Danish989, I've already PM'ed you, open that tab
[02:46] <Danish989> dmsuperman, lol, I'm not getting any messages there :/
[02:46] <dmsuperman> hrm
[02:46] <dmsuperman> then we'll just talk here
[02:46] <Nasra> IdleOne: use the URL.....what you url ..you talking about....I thought the whole idea was to paste it..in the channel...please elaborate thanks...
[02:46] <dmsuperman> alright, are you on a livecd?
[02:46] <IdleOne> Hysteria: best that can happen is your eyes will be open :)
[02:46] <Pelo> IdleOne, did you manage to get that nasa image thing working ?
[02:46] <Danish989> dmsuperman, im using pidgen right now, and somehow I can't see your pm's in that tab because I pm'ed you too and I dont think you got those either
[02:47] <firstohit> I am asking because the Nvidia driver is going to compile a kernel etc and I wasn't sure if my card GeForce 6200 A-LE will work ?
[02:47] <IdleOne> Pelo: yes
[02:47] <charles|64_> Pelo: for blank media nautilus --no-desktop burn:
[02:47] <Hysteria> IdleOne: hehe ok ill give it a shot
[02:47] <bruenig> Hysteria: I wouldn't do it if you don't need to. There is no reason to change just for change sakes.
[02:47] <dmsuperman> Danish989, are you on a LiveCD?
[02:47] <tarelerulz> I am trying to install the yahoo messager for Linux and it keeps saying I don't have libglib1.2 .  and I looked it up and synaptic says I do have it.  The dev verion debug .  So I am lost as to what I would do to get it ? so I will see those
[02:47] <Tyr> ok ok, The prob is rather simple i cant start the "window effects", altough i installed the restricted driver
[02:47] <Pelo> charles|64_, or start music and such ,
[02:47] <Hysteria> Bruenig: im bored and its the school holidays
[02:47] <Danish989> dmsuperman, yes I am
[02:47] <dmsuperman> tarelerulz, just install Pidgin, it's a much better client ;)
[02:47] <charles|64_> pelo yup
[02:47] <IdleOne> Nasra: the web address at the top after you click paste
[02:47] <dmsuperman> Danish989, open up your menu.lst in gedit, using the command "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[02:48] <danbhfive> Tyr: did you use the restricted drivers manager?
[02:48] <bruenig> Hysteria: ok, hopefully you don't mess up
[02:48] <tarelerulz> Do the version I am trying to install have voice chat ? or is no different then pidgin?
[02:48] <Pelo> charles|64_, try this ,   put a dvd in ,  open a terminal ,   sudo mkdir /media/cd1 && sudo mount /dev/cdrom0 /media/cd1
[02:48] <MrStitch> arg... yup, same problem as before
[02:48] <bruenig> hmm
[02:48] <firstohit> I am going to try to go ahead and download the latest nvidia driver from nvidia.com and install it, I will have to close x and go from there. Well Ilose my GNOME and compiz settings?
[02:48] <dmsuperman> firstohit, you can use the 169.12 driver, i'm using it. don't get it using the restricted driver manager though, it's not the latest and in fact causes problems (at least for my card)
[02:49] <dmsuperman> firstohit, no
[02:49] <charles|64_> Pelo: mount: special device /dev/cdrom0 does not exist
[02:49] <firstohit> ok how?
[02:49] <Nasra> IdleOne: never used it before.....let me try a text in here...
[02:49] <dmsuperman> firstohit, from the nvidia.com website, like you thought
[02:49] <Danish989> dmsuperman, I did, and that file is empty
[02:49] <bruenig> firstohit: if it fails, you won't even be able to start the graphics
[02:49] <dmsuperman> Danish989, that's odd.
[02:49] <bruenig> so be prepared for that
[02:49] <Pelo> charles  sudo /dev/scd0 /meida/cd1
[02:49] <MrStitch> buffer i/o errors, can't read from ata1, squashfs error, error loading shared libraries, failed file system check
[02:49] <Pelo> charles|64_,   sudo mount /dev/scd0 /meida/cd1
[02:49] <dmsuperman> Pelo, From the livecd, it's /boot/grub/menu.lst right?
[02:49] <BSG75> anyone know how add plugin to opera?
[02:49] <bruenig> opera has plugins?
[02:49] <Pelo> dmsuperman, what ?
[02:50] <BSG75> bruenig: it no play video :(
[02:50] <Tyr> Yes everything is activated, i installed even the Nvidia software via envy. Can the prob be that i have 2 cards with 2 displays?
[02:50] <bruenig> Tyr: the problem could be that you used envy
[02:50] <dmsuperman> Pelo, on a LiveCD, is the computer's menu.list at /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[02:50] <IdleOne> !envy | Tyr
[02:50] <ubotu> Tyr: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See ┬½ /msg ubotu binarydriver ┬╗
[02:50] <bruenig> Tyr: we do not support hackish third party python vomit
[02:50] <Pelo> dmsuperman, if from the live cd ,  you'll have to navigate to the /boot on the hdd , and not the one in the filesystem
[02:50] <firstohit> Is there instructions for installing the new 169.12 nvidia driver from NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12-pkg1 in Gutsy?
[02:50] <dmsuperman> Pelo, oh yeah, duh
[02:50] <dmsuperman> Danish989, alright, open a terminal
[02:50] <bruenig> well we support all of those things, just not "third party"
[02:50] <charles|64_> pelo mount: mount point /meida/cd1 does not exist
[02:51] <firstohit> will upgrading to Heron now better or can I still upgrade to heron later?
[02:51] <dmsuperman> Danish989, and type "cd /media"
[02:51] <Danish989> dmsuperman, okie, opened a terminal
[02:51] <MrStitch> it wants me to repair the file system manually. Something tells me that Ubuntu can't physically get to the hard drive(s).
[02:51] <dmsuperman> Danish989, then "dir"
[02:51] <imaginativeone> is there a gui for folder ownership?
[02:51] <dmsuperman> Danish989, and tell me all the "sdXX" it gives you
[02:51] <Pelo> charles|64_,  sudo mkdir /media/cd1 sorry
[02:51] <Tyr> But i had the same prob without it.
[02:51] <MrStitch> It wants me to either do a control-d or press enter for a maintenance thingy
[02:51] <owen1> how to embedd subtitles in .avi?
[02:51] <Danish989> dmsuperman, after going nto cd /media I sent the ''dir'' command but it didn't do anything
[02:52] <Pelo> owen1, http://www.howtoforge.com/access-linux-partitions-from-windows
[02:52] <firstohit> Will the driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12-pkg1 give me better performance than  100.14.19repo ?
[02:52] <Pelo> owen1, sorry wrong link
[02:52] <charles|64_> Pelo: the file exists but same error
[02:52] <owen1> Pelo: sure...
[02:52] <Pelo> owen1, http://gnome-subtitles.sourceforge.net/
[02:52] <repley> hi all, i have a strange output with: 'file -i ./favicon.ico' (for example http://www.ubuntu-it.org/favicon.ico), i obtain 'application/octet-stream' instead of 'image/x-icon'. it's normal?
[02:52] <dmsuperman> Danish989, try "ls -la"
[02:52] <Pelo> charles|64_,  can you pastebin your /etc/fstab file please
[02:52] <charles|64_> hang on
[02:53] <jadder> hello
[02:53] <dmsuperman> Pelo, where does the LiveCD mount the local filesystem to by default?
[02:53] <Tyr> Well i guess that was it then.
[02:53] <MrStitch> ouch... cntrl D launched it into insanity with too much stuff flying by. It finally stopped at "User not known to the underlying authentication module"
[02:53] <firstohit> I want to try to upgrade and I have made a backup using simple backup, if I can't start x can I still restore my system from comman?
[02:53] <MrStitch> what the heck does that mean?
[02:53] <charles|64_> Pelo: the dvd just poped up It just took forever?
[02:53] <Danish989> dmsuperman, that worked, it gave me a list, what did you want me to tell you?
[02:53] <Pelo> dmsuperman, the local filesystem ? do you mean the one on the hdd ?  should be monted as disk or disk1 on the desktp
[02:53] <dmsuperman> Danish989, everything that starts with "sd"
[02:54] <dmsuperman> Pelo, thanks :d
[02:54] <Danish989> dmsuperman, there's nothing here that starts with sd, only dr or - rw
[02:54] <dmsuperman> Danish989, the files are on the rightside
[02:54] <Pelo> dmsuperman, check under  places it migth be listed but not mounted yet
[02:54] <dmsuperman> Danish989, probably highlighted in green
[02:54] <charles|64_> its working now what the hell
[02:54] <Gzzrt> How do I turn off the status (join \ quit, etc) messages in xchat.
[02:54] <bruenig> right click on the tab
[02:54] <Pelo> charles|64_, might be a bit defective,  try another one , it might also be the burner that is old and borky
[02:55] <Danish989> dmsuperman, the files are hightlighted with lightblue, and still no file starting with an sd
[02:55] <Pelo> Gzzrt, see the channel tab ? rigth click on it
[02:55] <Gzzrt> got it, thank you
[02:55] <charles|64_> Pelo: the burner is two weeks old lol
[02:55] <bruenig> in irssi it is /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS
[02:55] <dmsuperman> Danish989, probably highlighted in green
[02:55] <bruenig> probably works for xchat too
[02:55] <dmsuperman> Danish989, sorry, accidently pasted. Give me a pastebin of everything it gave you, including your command
[02:55] <Pelo> charles|64_, well I can trade you for mine if you want, it's a year old it's been thoroughly tested :-)
[02:56] <Gzzrt> I also managed to figure how to access some of my windows drives.  There seems be some problem with one of my partitions, but I'm suspecting because I'm using Wubi and it's installed in that partition
[02:56] <Danish989> dmsuperman, im a complete linux Newb, can you tell me how to give you a pastebin?
[02:56] <dmsuperman> !pastebin | Danish989
[02:56] <charles|64_> Pelo: lol and pastebin coming at you http://pastebin.com/mca4d389
[02:56] <dmsuperman> !pastebin
[02:56] <dmsuperman> ...
[02:56] <Danish989> lol
[02:56] <firstohit> If I upgrade to latest Nvidia driver, can I upgrade to Heron later when it is released?
[02:56] <dmsuperman> Danish989, go to http://pastebin.com and paste it
[02:56] <ubotu> Danish989: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[02:56] <dmsuperman> ubotu, you're slow
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you're slow - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <bruenig> !give dmsuperman thanks
[02:57]  * mindframe gives dmsuperman the Win2k Buglist
[02:57]  * FooAtari gives dmsuperman a boy scout
[02:57] <jay> Question - I need a program that can query and return information on my HDD's. Something to give me block.device id's and what not. Any suggestions?
[02:57] <bruenig> woops
[02:57] <Pelo> charles|64_, did you edit that file yourself at some point ?
[02:57] <Nasra> !pastebin \ idleOne
[02:57] <bruenig> !thanks | dmsuperman
[02:57] <ubotu> dmsuperman: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:57] <charles|64_> Pelo: yes I added my NAS mounts and then commented them out why?
[02:57] <dmsuperman> haha, i believe i just got owned by like 5 people at once
[02:58] <danny_> I have ubuntu 8.04 beta.  No sound in Firefox when i go to anything on the internet .  When I go to system/preference/sound.  on the devices tab, sytems  tests work.... but on the sounds tab none of the systems sounds work. when I play games like ioqake.. I DO have sound....
[02:58] <Danish989> dmsuperman, this pastebin thing is pretty cool .. here ; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63135/
[02:58] <daekdroom> danny_ No sound in what? Flash stuff?
[02:58] <Pelo> charles|64_,  the /dev/hda and fd0 at the two lines form the bottom look odd to me but I 'm not expert , I 'm gonna give you a loine to ad see if that does anything for you
[02:58] <dmsuperman> Danish989, you forgot the /. "cd /media"
[02:58] <danny_> yup and start up sounds.. and stuf
[02:58] <Pelo> charles|64_,   /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0  , then remount with  mount -a
[02:58] <dmsuperman> Danish989, and then "ls -la"
[02:59] <danny_> flash and start up sounds..
[02:59] <danny_> I can get music to play and in games like quake I have sound
[02:59] <Pelo> charles|64_, actualy forget that , just change t he /dev/hda for /dev/scd0  in the cdrom0 line
[02:59] <danny_> but no internet sounds and no start up sounds...
[02:59] <daekdroom> danny_: Are you sure you've installed adobe flash, not gnash?
[02:59] <firstohit> dmsuperman did you install the Nvidia driver using the nvidia wizard with no problems? what is your card?
[02:59] <Danish989> dmsuperman, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63136/
[02:59] <danny_> let me ceck on the flash part
[03:00] <maynards-girl> what is a good program for a checkbook?
[03:00] <dmsuperman> firstohit, yeah, and a 7900 GS KO by EVGA
[03:00] <boum1> ive been searching the forums. i want to install the intel fortran compiler, ive seen advice to run sudo aptitude install build-essential, is this correct ?
[03:00] <danny_> I havr flash installed
[03:00] <charles|64_> Pelo: done
[03:00] <Nasra> dmsuperman: same boat here...stranded with what seems to be simple is giving problem.....I wrote a text pasted in so now what where did it go or else what should I with it?
[03:00] <firstohit> Ok, I have 6200 A-LE I am going to try it.
[03:00] <Nasra> thanks
[03:00] <Pelo> charles|64_, sudo mount -a to reload fstab
[03:00] <charles|64_> Pelo: no dice
[03:00] <daekdroom> danny_: flashplugin-nonfree package or gnash?
[03:00] <dmsuperman> Danish989, are there are any "disk" shortcuts on your desktop?
[03:01] <charles|64_> Pelo: ill brb
[03:01] <firstohit> dmsuperman was it worth it?
[03:01] <danny_> daekdroom:  i do have flash installed
[03:01] <ttroja> When Hardy Heron comes out can one upgrade their system via a command rather than reinstalling?
[03:01] <dmsuperman> Nasra, I got it installed no probs
[03:01] <Flannel> ttroja: yes
[03:01] <Pelo> ttroja, yes
[03:01] <dmsuperman> firstohit, considering before it I wasn't able to even get my video working properly, absolutely :P
[03:01] <fish> Hello folkds
[03:01] <Danish989> dmsuperman, no there arent
[03:01] <tarelerulz> Danny I would go with the none-free version of flash player.  gnash has nothing ,but error when I try to use it
[03:01] <Nasra> smsuperman: what you got installed....don't get (complete newbie)....thanks
[03:01] <firstohit> dmsuperman Do you have gutsy ?
[03:01] <Danish989> dmsuperman, the only shorcuts on desktop are examples and install becaus im on from the live cd
[03:01] <dmsuperman> firstohit, aye
[03:01] <ttroja> Flannel, okay, thanks, I thought so since you can do it so easily while it's still in development but I wasn't sure. Thank you very much.
[03:02] <danny_> let me check in synaptic and see which one i have installed
[03:02] <dmsuperman> Danish989, what about in the Places shortcut at the top, any links to any of your disks?
[03:02] <dmsuperman> Danish989, Beside "filesystem"
[03:02] <danny_> I have this one installed flashplugin-nonfree package
[03:02] <firstohit> dmsuperman when new release will the driver still be there ? I mean heron
[03:02] <dmsuperman> firstohit, it should be, I don't see why it wouldn't
[03:03] <Danish989> dmsuperman, no there are no shortcuts to disks in places
[03:03] <Pelo> danny_,  there is a newer one from adobe check on their website, dl the tarball and copy the .so file over in the two locaition where it is already on your hdd
[03:03] <dmsuperman> firstohit, but I'm going to make a virtual machine with an exact copy of my current one and test before i upgrade
[03:03] <dmsuperman> Danish989, Go to Places -> Computer, and what's in there?
[03:03] <danny_> pelo.  has that been an issue?  so i need the new flash one?
[03:03] <firstohit> dmsuperman I am going to try it then. I will have to boot to recover mode from command and run the wizard. is that right ?
[03:03] <fish> Hey is this a support channel?
[03:04] <imaginativeone> do I have to add the windows account to access ubuntu?
[03:04] <Starnestommy> fish: yes
[03:04] <firstohit> dmsuperman how can I make a backup incase I can't get back?
[03:04] <dmsuperman> Pelo, Any clue why it won't let me change the label of one of my partitions? it's ext3, and stuck as sdb2, where all my other partitions let me have things like "Media" or "Documents
[03:04] <Danish989> dmsuperman, there is Floppy Drive, CD Rom Drive, CD-RW/DVD Rom Dive, 14.0 GB Volume, 19.5 GB Volume, 30.1 GB Volume, My 2 SATA hard disks and "filesystem''
[03:04] <dmsuperman> firstohit, no need to reboot, you can run it live
[03:04] <fish> Awesome
[03:04] <tarelerulz> Has empathy with voice chat been add to Ubuntu's repository ?  I got the one from the ppa ,but  Ubuntu keeps wanting to install empathy in the updates? I don't want to miss me empathy up
[03:04] <marc_> so del moyo dask per kin reich alta mata fordosamer?
[03:04] <Pelo> danny_, I've had  problem with sound in flash way back ,  I'm not sure the the nonfree package in he repos gets updated a lot,  I don'T have that problem with the latest or the last two latesst ,so I recommend it
[03:04] <bruenig> awesome is a window manager
[03:04] <dmsuperman> Danish989, go into whichever of those is your partition with Ubuntu on it
[03:05] <dmsuperman> firstohit, You'll have to reboot afterward. And as far as backing up, that I'm not sure
[03:05] <imaginativeone> can I turn samba off?  remove it?
[03:05] <fish> I am wanting to move my Ubuntu Installation from one HD to a New HD, can I  just move it somehow or am i going to need to do an uninstall/re-install?
[03:05] <firstohit> dmsuperman I did sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.12-pkg1.run I got  You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[03:05] <linkinxp> my windows dont have borders!!!!!
[03:05] <Pelo> dmsuperman, that's a mount ppoint,  unmount it ,and remount it to a new mountpoint with the name you want
[03:05] <mpalatnik> hi i'm trying to running vncserver and i've been having the grey screen problem
[03:05] <mpalatnik> i finally got the point where im getting a terminal window upon connecting
[03:05] <danny_> the same version in the repos is the same version on flash websight...
[03:05] <mpalatnik> but no more
[03:05] <dmsuperman> firstohit, Just kill X and do it from a TTY
[03:05] <bruenig> linkinxp: neither do mine
[03:05] <mpalatnik> can someone help?
[03:05] <CJS3141> Can someone please point me to an online tutorial of linux variables used when executing a program? What I mean is commands like "gimp %U" or "inkscape %F". What parameters do those variables pass to the program?
[03:05] <firstohit> dmsuperman how ?
[03:05] <elmer> So
[03:06] <Danish989> dmsuperman, okie done
[03:06] <danny_> pelo  the same version in the repos is the same version on flash websight...
[03:06] <wil> Hi, I have a problem with firefox on ubuntu... All flash movies happen on the top layer so menus are not visible, it is annoying the hell out of me... I am posting it here as I do not get this issue on firefox on windows or mac, so it must be ubuntu specific, is there any advice?
[03:06] <Pelo> CJS3141, just a filename
[03:06] <dmsuperman> firstohit, run "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop" then just run it from the commandline it should give you. if it doesn't give you one, Ctrl Alt F1 will bring one up
[03:06] <elmer> how would I go about killing the default windows manager to start wmii?
[03:06] <linkinxp> my windows dont have borders!!!!! how i fix this????
[03:06] <Pelo> danny_, I don,t know then
[03:06] <mpalatnik> CJS3141, http://lowfatlinux.com/linux-script-variables.html
[03:06] <imaginativeone> jesus christ I HATE linux
[03:06] <dmsuperman> Danish989, you found your ubuntu partition? What's the location it gives you?
[03:06] <firstohit> dmsuperman kiil x and run wizard then reboot?
[03:06] <bruenig> linkinxp: oh you want borders?
[03:06] <dmsuperman> !patience | linkinxp
[03:06] <ubotu> linkinxp: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:06] <Pelo> imaginativeone, don'T use it then , no one is forcing you
[03:06] <elmer> linkinxp, make sure the windows decoration setting is on in Compiz Advanced Settings
[03:06] <danny_> pelo. thanks for the try though
[03:06] <fish> linkinxp, mine dont have borders either
[03:06] <CJS3141> mpalatnik: Thanks much--I'll check it out now. :-)
[03:06] <dmsuperman> firstohit, yeah, i'm not even sure you have to reboot, but I know I did
[03:06] <Danish989> dmsuperman, how can I be sure its the ubuntu partition? I took a guess because I resized the partition to 30 Gigs before installing ubuntu the location is disk-2
[03:07] <fish> linkinxp, i think that they way its supposeto be
[03:07] <Pelo> linkinxp, change the theme
[03:07] <bruenig> does anyone else not use borders on their windows?
[03:07] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, it's not for everybody, it takes some work to manage but it's doen that way on purpose, so you can custom tailor it to your every need
[03:07] <firstohit> dmsuperman I am going to try it now, actually it is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:07] <fish> anyone knwo about moving an installation from hd to hd?
[03:07] <firstohit> dmsuperman I will be back, maybe
[03:07] <dmsuperman> Danish989, it should have the normal folders of ubuntu
[03:07] <charles|64_> Pelo: back
[03:07] <Pelo> charles|64_, and ?
[03:07] <danbhfive> !clone | fish here is a start
[03:07] <ubotu> fish here is a start: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type ┬½ dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages ┬╗, move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type ┬½ sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade ┬╗ - See also !automate
[03:07] <dmsuperman> firstohit, I just put in ? because I wasn't sure which one you were using
[03:08] <imaginativeone> (10:06:44 PM) Pelo: imaginativeone, don'T use it then , no one is forcing you << why M$ will ALWAYS win (just ask Oracle)
[03:08] <Danish989> dmsuperman, it has folders like 'bin' and 'boot' and 'cdrom' and two files called 'initrd.img' and 'vmlinuz'
[03:08] <charles|64_> Pelo: nothing
[03:08] <gato> Hi, I need some help with my toshiba u305 and bluetooth
[03:08] <Pelo> imaginativeone, what problem are you having now ?
[03:08] <imaginativeone> same problem
[03:08] <bruenig> !show xdm
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about show xdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <danbhfive> fish, I think everything else that you would need to copy is in your /home
[03:08] <Pelo> charles|64_, pastebin your new fstab please
[03:08] <firstohit> dmsuperman look for me I will be back
[03:08] <fish> wouldnt that require me installing ununtu on the new hd first?
[03:08] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, MS only wins for the people who want it to "just work". Those of us who want it to work perfectly how we want it, however, are quite happy with it
[03:08] <firstohit> dmsuperman bye
[03:08] <imaginativeone> the desktop server is not accessible
[03:08] <Danish989> dmsuperman, im sure its my ubuntu partition because my sata hard disks dont get mounted on the livecd and the other two discs are my other partitions
[03:08] <dmsuperman> Danish989, as long as that's not "Filesystem" then it should be good
[03:09] <elmer> how would I go about killing the default windows manager to start wmii?
[03:09] <Danish989> dmsuperman, i'm pretty sure it's not ''filesystem''
[03:09] <dmsuperman> Danish989, Alright, what's the path it says then?
[03:09] <hansengel> Hi, I have a question about apt-get:
[03:09] <hansengel> I'm trying to install the 'giggle' package, and it has a dependency on 'git-core'. The problem is this: I have Git built from source on my machine, so if I installed from a package there would be big problems. Is there some way I can force apt-get to ignore dependencies and only install what I request?
[03:09] <charles|64_> Pelo: http://pastebin.com/m6501b2c2
[03:09] <bruenig> elmer: killall whatever ;wmii
[03:09] <imaginativeone> dmsuperman: you seem to be making the same mistake my HS educators made...
[03:09] <Danish989> dmsuperman, it just says disk-2
[03:09] <danny_> I have ubuntu 8.04 beta.  No sound in Firefox when i go to anything on the internet .  When I go to system/preference/sound.  on the devices tab, sytems  tests work.... but on the sounds tab none of the systems sounds work. when I play games like ioqake.. I DO have sound.... Adobe flash (latest version) is installed. not Gnash..
[03:09] <imaginativeone> you're forgetting to mention MONEY
[03:09] <imaginativeone> my kids won't get any medical care without it
[03:09] <dmsuperman> Danish989, click the little icon that looks like paper with a pencil on it, it'll tell you the actual location
[03:10] <gogeta> dmsuperman lol i was abought to yell untill i read the second half
[03:10] <gato> Hi, I need some help with my toshiba satellite u305 and bluetooth
[03:10] <Danish989> dmsuperman, it's /media/disk-2
[03:10] <Pelo> charles|64_, I hate to say this but try reboot
[03:10] <imaginativeone> M$ clearly understands that people need to get the job done for money
[03:10] <gogeta> dmsuperman isnt windows works when it fells like it
[03:10] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, You don't make money with Windows OR Linux, so how does that make anything
[03:10] <charles|64_> Pelo: brb
[03:10] <Pelo> imaginativeone, is this a recent installation of ubuntu ?
[03:10] <jdonmoyer> hello, lvm problems here after hardy beta upgrade.  Anyone able to help?
[03:10] <dmsuperman> gogeta, heh, yeah
[03:10] <fish> danbhfive, wouldnt that require me installing ununtu on the new hd first?
[03:11] <imaginativeone> Pelo: about a month...
[03:11] <Flannel> jdonmoyer: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support
[03:11] <dmsuperman> Danish989, alright, then "sudo gedit /media/disk-2/boot/grub/menu.lst"
[03:11] <Pelo> imaginativeone, and it was wokring before ?
[03:11] <danbhfive> fish: yeah
[03:11] <jdonmoyer> thanks flannel
[03:11] <jdonmoyer> exit
[03:11] <fish> alrighty
[03:11] <fish> then how do I remove the install on mycurrent hd?
[03:11] <imaginativeone> Pelo: no.  I just learned about Samba today
[03:11] <Pelo> imaginativeone, boot the live cd,  copy your /home folder to a seperate partion and reinstall ubuntu
[03:11] <Danish989> dmsuperman, should I make a pastebin of that?
[03:11] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, I make more money with linux, actually. I'm definately more productive with it, and since my job depends on the internet and on computers in general (I'm a programmer) that's a huge thing
[03:12] <dmsuperman> Danish989, sure
[03:12] <imaginativeone> Pelo: thanks
[03:12] <owen1> Pelo: gnome-subtitles is buggy with 8.04. any other app/idea?
[03:12] <Pelo> imaginativeone, your trying to get samba to wrok ? this is an all other things we all thougth you were trying to get your wndows intall to read the ubuntu hdd , now the same thing
[03:12] <Danish989> dmsuperman,http://pastebin.com/m2c3118cc
[03:12] <gogeta> dmsuperman kinda offtopic
[03:12] <imaginativeone> dmsuperman: that's cool for you and like the 150 in the world who can say that
[03:12] <Pelo> owen1, that's all I have,  remember that it's generaly hardy that is bugy at this point not the apps on it
[03:12] <dmsuperman> gogeta, he was saying how MS is better and somehow was bringing up money
[03:13] <owen1> Pelo: someone told me about this:  transcode -i MichaelClayton.avi -x mplayer="-sub MichaelClayton.srt" -o outputfile.avi -y xvid   but it made the fonts huge.
[03:13] <imaginativeone> the 1000s of us that have to eat too...well...
[03:13] <dmsuperman> imaginativeone, of the top 10 fastest growing jobs in america, mine and related jobs make up a good portion of them
[03:13] <bruenig> that a new discrete release is buggy indicates there is some system problem in the distro
[03:13] <Danish989> imaginativeone, I'm confused .. what are you doing in an ubuntu room?
[03:13] <gogeta> dmsuperman linux admin jobs are growing fast
[03:13] <Pelo> owen1, man transcode and look at the options available you can probably specify the size of the font to use
[03:13] <eigma> which package provides /usr/lib/locale/en_US.utf8 (dpkg -S says 'not found') and how can I get the en_US.iso-8859-1?
[03:13] <imaginativeone> Danish989: trying to get some help with Ubuntu
[03:13] <owen1> Pelo: man. r u part of canonical? thanks a lot.
[03:14] <dmsuperman> Danish989, alright, there's 3 lines, 131, 142, and 137 that reference (hd2,4)
[03:14] <Danish989> imaginativeone, no offence but I don't think comparing ubuntu with any other os will actually help
[03:14] <Pelo> imaginativeone, right now you are trying to get help with samba I beleive , you ahve two machines and you are trying to get thtem to communicate is that correct ?
[03:14] <Danish989> dmsuperman, and in linux newb language, that means?
[03:14] <imaginativeone> Pelo: yes
[03:14] <gato> It's not working
[03:14] <gogeta> imaginativeone ubuntu
[03:14] <dmsuperman> Danish989, The first bit is the drive, the second is the partition. So, drive 2, and partition 4.
[03:14] <gogeta> lol
[03:14] <Pelo> imaginativeone, well startwith taht ,  do you have shared folders in your windows machine ?
[03:14] <dmsuperman> Danish989, look at lines 131, 142, and 137
[03:15] <Danish989> dmsuperman, so that makes it (hd2,4) . the location I have to set grub to?
[03:15] <imaginativeone> Pelo: yes
[03:15] <stwange_> hey, I installed mailutils and tried this but it doesn't work: echo testing | mail -s Blah myemail@gmail.com (no error log, just doesn't deliver)
[03:15] <Pelo> imaginativeone, haveyou installed samba on ubuntu ?
[03:15] <imaginativeone> I can access them from ubuntu
[03:15] <gogeta> imaginativeone go give him a slackware install and watch him compare windows then lol
[03:15] <Orbixx|Mob> How do i change my resolution to one that is not listed?
[03:15] <imaginativeone> Pelo: yes
[03:15] <elmer> how would I go about killing the default windows manager to start wmii?
[03:15] <Danish989> dmsuperman, that is what I did by following the instructions on the thread you sent to me before, but it didn't seem to work :/
[03:15] <dmsuperman> Danish989, Currently, GRUB is trying to boot from (hd2,4), according to those lines. We need to play with it to figure out where it is really located. I wasn't able to find a sure-fire way of determining it, but I switched it from hd(1,5) for mine to (hd0,5) and it worked
[03:15] <Pelo> imaginativeone, ok half way there,  have you autorzied samba accept connections from yur windows machine ?
[03:16] <fish> Anyone: How do i remove my ubuntu installation? How do i uninstall my current ubuntu install?, I am currently using Ubuntu 7 and Fedora 8 and I am wanting to remove them both
[03:16] <dmsuperman> Danish989, Those instructions get you installed, then since we have SATA drives and the BIOS gets confused, we'll have to do a little bit of trying
[03:16] <gogeta> elmer go to session
[03:16] <Danish989> dmsuperman, make a suggestion?
[03:16] <dmsuperman> Danish989, do you have another PC with internet?
[03:16] <gogeta> elmer at the login screen
[03:16] <Pelo> elmer, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:16] <birge-local> Orbixx: are you comfortable editing a configuration file?
[03:16] <stwange_> fish, why not just delete the partition?
[03:16] <Orbixx|Mob> Yes.
[03:16] <elmer> gogeta, OK
[03:16] <imaginativeone> Pelo: yes, but...perhaps not (since ubuntu is not accepting connections from my windows machine)
[03:16] <fish> what about my bootloader?
[03:16] <Danish989> dmsuperman, give me a list of locations that I should try in succession until one works, and I'll boot into live cd until it works ... or is there another way of checkign without actually restarting the computer?
[03:17] <Danish989> dmsuperman, that's the problem, I do not have another pc with internet
[03:17] <dmsuperman> Danish989, Yes, there is. Do you have another PC?
[03:17] <elmer> Pelo, I did that and I got stuck and running "wmii" did not work
[03:17] <dmsuperman> Danish989, alright, then
[03:17] <elmer> I will try gogeta's idea
[03:17] <dmsuperman> Danish989, When you boot up, you'll have your grub. With that grub, you have the list of OSes
[03:17] <elmer> brb maybe
[03:17] <Pelo> imaginativeone, I would review that part , I am not ffamiliar with samba, you can try asking for more help on this in #samba , and leave the money and bitching out of it
[03:17] <dmsuperman> Danish989, Highlight the first one, and hit "e"
[03:17] <Danish989> dmsuperman, the problem is I'm not getting the list of OSes either
[03:17] <birge-local> ok, first, make a backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf. (name it something like xorg.conf.back or something.)
[03:17] <Danish989> dmsuperman, it just starts loading GRUB and goes into that error
[03:17] <imaginativeone> Pelo: cool beans...thanks for helping
[03:17] <charles|64> Pelo: ok that froze my system as soon as it loaded fstab
[03:18] <dmsuperman> Danish989, either way, try hitting e
[03:18] <stwange_> fish - (might want to confirm this first, but:) edit file /boot/grub/menu.lst and delete the lines for the entry.
[03:18] <MrStitch> Hey, I just tried to open a MS Office 2007 spreadsheet file, and now my Open Office is complete scrambled. Is it crashed, or do I just need to reboot Ubuntu?
[03:18] <dmsuperman> Danish989, and from there, you can hit "e" again on the first line it should give you
[03:18] <Danish989> dmsuperman, even if I'm stuck on the error?
[03:18] <Some_Person> This may sound absurd, but could I order free ubuntu 5.10 live cds somehow? 5.10 was my favorite ubuntu version, and i want to use it for one day, just for nostalgia. My dialshit stops me from downloading it, and my dad used the live instead of the install cds on my mousetrap car (unlike my requests) so im screwed. Please help me see 5.10 again for a day.
[03:18] <dmsuperman> Danish989, not entirely sure
[03:18] <Orbixx|Mob> Done.
[03:18] <dmsuperman> Danish989, Oh yeah, duh
[03:18] <dmsuperman> Danish989, Alright, from bootup here's what you do
[03:18] <Pelo> charles|64, is it ok now ? maybe the /dev/scd0 is not the good devtree for your dvd player
[03:18] <fish> stwange: what about my bootloader? I am using the BL that i believe is used by Ubuntu, because when i installed fedora 8 i had a blue screen bootloader and after installing Ubuntu i got a black screen and now Fedora is Under "Other Operating Systems" in the loader menu
[03:18] <dmsuperman> Danish989, Hit escape after it boots. That will give you the list of OSes
[03:18] <Lifeisfunny> when a beta version is put out, are there updates posted for it ?
[03:18] <dmsuperman> Danish989, From there, highlight the first one, and hit "e"
[03:18] <fish> stwange: ok
[03:18] <charles|64> Pelo: not sure i commented that line out to get it to boot
[03:19] <fish> stwange: I will check that
[03:19] <birge-local> Orbixx: now, open the file (using sudo) with your favorite editor and look to see if you can find a section called "Screen"
[03:19] <dmsuperman> Danish989, Then, the first line should say something about (hd2,4), hit "e" again
[03:19] <rx4th> Hello --please excuse me.  I would like to upgrade my MotoQ from Verizon from Windows Mobile Version 5.0 to 6.1.  Would somebody be able to point me in the right direction for this?
[03:19] <birge-local> hopefully there will only be one.
[03:19] <Orbixx|Mob> Ok. I'm there.
[03:19] <Pelo> charles|64, go back in hardaware info , find your dvd drive again,   check in the tabs for it and find the /dev thing for it , use that in the fstab instead fo /dev/scd0
[03:19] <Some_Person> Can anyone tell me how to fulfill my request?
[03:19] <Orbixx|Mob> Only one.
[03:19] <dmsuperman> Danish989, From there, you can just edit the line with your keyboard, backspace, and try replacing 2 with different numbers until it boots Ubuntu
[03:19] <MrStitch> ???
[03:19] <MrStitch> 'ello?
[03:19] <boum1> does anyone know of a way to calibrate the rgb gamma for xwindows ?, similar to the nvidia wizard under xp ??
[03:19] <Pelo> Some_Person, you are not being ignored , restate your problem
[03:19] <dmsuperman> Danish989, After you edit it, save it and hit "b" to try to boot to it
[03:19] <Some_Person> This may sound absurd, but could I order free ubuntu 5.10 live cds somehow? 5.10 was my favorite ubuntu version, and i want to use it for one day, just for nostalgia. My dialshit stops me from downloading it, and my dad used the live instead of the install cds on my mousetrap car (unlike my requests) so im screwed. Please help me see 5.10 again for a day.
[03:19] <birge-local> good. there should be a list of "modes" with either one or a series of elements like "640x480"
[03:19] <dmsuperman> Danish989, You might want to write these directions down
[03:20] <Orbixx|Mob> No list of modes. That's my problem.
[03:20] <evilbug> hey,would i have any problems putting ubuntu on a vista laptop?
[03:20] <birge-local> you can just add another resolution to the list.
[03:20] <gogeta> Some_Person newer versions walk all over 5.10
[03:20] <birge-local> ahh. that is a problem.
[03:20] <Some_Person> gogeta: i know, but thats not the point
[03:20]  * MrStitch is a ghost
[03:20] <Danish989> dmsuperman, so what I do is hit escape so it gives me the list of OSes .. from there, press ''e'' so it opens up that grub thingy .. and then over there, I can just use my keyboard to change the value of 2 into other numbers, and try them all out until ubuntu finally decides to boot?
[03:20] <Pelo> Some_Person, you can download it from the servers on the www.ubuntu.com site
[03:20] <stwange_> you shouldn't do evilbug, but always backup anything you can't afford to lose
[03:20] <Some_Person> pelo: not on dialshit
[03:20] <gogeta> Some_Person welcome to the club
[03:20] <Pici> !language | |
[03:20] <Danish989> dmsuperman, are you sure hitting escape will get me to the list of OSes?
[03:20] <ubotu> |: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:21] <dmsuperman> Danish989, So, quick version. From bootup, "escape" "e" "e", try replacing 2 with 0, then 1, and so on. Change 2, hit enter, and hit b to try to boot
[03:21] <Pelo> Some_Person, youcan try and ordr it from shipit , also on the www.ubuntu.com site,
[03:21] <gogeta> Some_Person wardrive on a laptop frind wifi dl it
[03:21] <dmsuperman> Danish989, yes
[03:21] <Some_Person> pelo: shipit only give you 7.10
[03:21] <biabia> can someone point me to a guide that explains "sudo -s"  "sudo -"  "su" or which command(s) are proper to use to gain a root prompt
[03:21] <MrStitch> how about now?
[03:21] <evilbug> stwange_- it would be a brand new one,nothing to backup.i just thought of the possiblity of having issues just like with downgrading from vista to xp,some bios issues maybe.
[03:21] <dmsuperman> !sudo
[03:21] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[03:21] <Some_Person> gogeta: i have no laptop
[03:21] <biabia> thanks
[03:22] <birge-local> so, the format is like this: within the "Screen" Section, add SubSection "Display" <return> Modes "1440x900" <return> EndSubSection
[03:22] <Pelo> Some_Person, I'M sure there is a contact email on the website whre you can inquire , this shouldn't be very hard and I am sure they will be glad to get rid of hold stock
[03:22] <dmsuperman> biabia, no problem
[03:22] <stwange_> evilbug, you said from vista to ubuntu?
[03:22] <birge-local> but of course use whatever resolution it is you're trying to add.
[03:22] <gogeta> Some_Person some areas have free city wide wifi maybe youll luvkout
[03:22] <birge-local> hopefully that will work.
[03:22] <MrStitch> dmsuperman, can you see my text, or did I screw something up?
[03:22] <Some_Person> gogeta: i have no laptop
[03:22] <birge-local> you'll have to log out and log back in to restart X11, though.
[03:22] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, I can see you now
[03:22] <evilbug> stwange_- yes.
[03:22] <stwange_> sorry I misunderstood evilbug
[03:22] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, did you PM me?
[03:22] <Saint`Dia> What's a good firewall for ubuntu? Like, an interactive one.
[03:22] <gogeta> Some_Person wifi pc steal nabers connection
[03:23] <gogeta> lol
[03:23] <Some_Person> gogeta: i have no fruggin wifi
[03:23] <birge-local> if it breaks everything, do you know how to use one of the tty terminals to restore your xorg.conf backup?
[03:23] <gogeta> :-(
[03:23] <MrStitch> dmsuperman, i left earlier and used the 'away' command. Do I need to issue another command to show that I'm back?
[03:23] <evilbug> stwange_- thanks!
[03:23] <stwange_> stwange_, no you shouldn't have issues, although check the license when you buy it - I've heard that some acer laptops encrypt the bios so you can only access it if vista is installed
[03:23] <firstohit> dmsuperman hey I am back but I have some problem
[03:23] <stwange_> sorry, evilbug, not stwange_ - see above :)
[03:23] <usser> Saint`Dia, firestarter is pretty good
[03:23] <MrStitch> dmsuperman, been asking questions and not the faintest reply... hahahaha
[03:23] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, I'm pretty sure away only changes your status, it shouldn't affect your ability to message
[03:24] <Danish989> dmsuperman, I'm going to try that out now, thanks a lot .. I'll be back in a bit with either good news or bad news
[03:24] <dmsuperman> firstohit, what happened?
[03:24] <dmsuperman> Danish989, alright
[03:24] <Orbixx|Mob> How do i logout without ing the interface.
[03:24] <xiaocao> :-[
[03:24] <firstohit> dmsuperman resolution is missed up and when I run nvidia-settings I get error You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[03:24] <Saint`Dia> usser: I'm using firestarter, but it does'nt seem very interactive, you would think, this being linux, it would have an awesome firewall with port options and the works.
[03:24] <MrStitch> dmsuperman, ok then... it's just me. ;)
[03:24] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, messaging "???" probably isn't a good way to see if people can see your text haha
[03:24] <Some_Person> pelo: who would i contact?
[03:24] <Orbixx|Mob> The current resolution is bigger than my monitor, and i can't see the right side of the desktop.
[03:24] <birge-local> Orbixx: you can't. :-( welcome to the fun of using a graphical user interface developed in the 1980s.
[03:24] <amenado> Saint`Dia-> interactive? you want a firewall tool to be interactive?
[03:25] <dmsuperman> firstohit, "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg-bak/xorg.conf"
[03:25] <Pelo> Some_Person, isnT there some customer service or some general information email ?
[03:25] <xiaocao> how to remove the package
[03:25] <usser> Saint`Dia, but its linux and it does have an awesome firewall - iptables its just nobody bothers to write a nice gui for it
[03:25] <dmsuperman> firstohit, "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[03:25] <Saint`Dia> amenado: Yeah, something like some of the programs that windows has.
[03:25] <dmsuperman> firstohit, "sudo nvidia-settings"
[03:25] <dmsuperman> firstohit, and if it still gives you an error, reboot and try again
[03:25] <Some_Person> pelo: not that i know of
[03:25] <usser> Saint`Dia, just how customizable u want the firewall to be
[03:25] <birge-local> Orbixx: when you go to the display setting control panel, it doesn't offer a smaller resolution?
[03:25] <xiaocao> please tell me
[03:25] <MrStitch> dmsuperman, good point. Say, do you know anything about open office? I just tried to open a 2007 excel spreadsheet file and my whole open office software is messed up... scrambled. Reboot, or do I re-install the open office?
[03:26] <Fructose> Does Ubuntu have any software packages that do the same thing as DBAN (without having to boot from them)?
[03:26] <amenado> Saint`Dia-> im not sure how much interactivity you would like...can you not use command line? or that is too challenging for you?
[03:26] <CJS3141> If I open a media file by right-clicking on the file and choosing "open with MediaInfo" (I added it to the menu), it opens MediaInfo but not the file: the executable path is: /usr/bin/mediainfo_gui %f. So which %variable should I be using to make it work?
[03:26] <Pelo> usser, iptable is not a firewall it's the cli userspace for netfilter , netfilter is the firewall,  firestarter is just a gui for the same
[03:26] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, There are some problems with opening Office 2007 files in OO.o
[03:26] <Orbixx|Mob> Ah. I did it.
[03:26] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, I used to be a huge OO.o fan until 2007 of MS Office came out
[03:26] <Pelo> Some_Person, didyou check the contact email on the ubuntu website ?
[03:26] <usser> Saint`Dia, try guarddog
[03:26] <birge-local> Orbixx: excellent. what did you end up doing?
[03:26] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, Office 2007 is the first good product they've put out
[03:27] <Saint`Dia> usser: I should be able to filter port information, and I should be able to see IP's connecting to my PC in realtime. It is not that command line is challenging, but will all the awesome gui options, you'd think that something as significant as a firewall would have it's share of programs.
[03:27] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, So I just run a VM of windows XP and use Office 2007 with that :P
[03:27] <Some_Person> pelo: they are in categories, and none fit my needs
[03:27] <Orbixx|Mob> There was another spot to logout on the gui i could see.
[03:27] <Orbixx|Mob> Oh...
[03:27] <Pelo> Some_Person, show
[03:27] <Pelo> Some_Person, let me have a look
[03:27] <Orbixx|Mob> Xorg  to have hung.
[03:27] <Fructose> Does Ubuntu have anything to securely delete partitions?
[03:27] <Orbixx|Mob> Appears*
[03:28] <Saint`Dia> will = with^ in my last post.
[03:28] <MrStitch> dmsuperman, sounds like a good fix. However, the file is from a friend, and I don't personally have Office 2007. Maybe I should just reboot and see if it clears up?
[03:28] <charles|64> Pelo: not seeing it ill try a few other things thanks though
[03:28] <birge-local> damn. i take it you have gotten the graphics card to work at that resolution when running another OS?
[03:28] <firstohit> dmsuperman still getting it, gott reoot
[03:28] <amenado> Saint`Dia-> once you learned iptables, you can make rules to log or display each ip's connecting realtime
[03:28] <firstohit> dmsuperman be back
[03:29] <aimchanger> snitch: poo should support office 2007
[03:29] <Saint`Dia> amenado: I guess I will study Iptables.
[03:29] <Pelo> Some_Person, ask there mailto:info@shipit.ubuntu.com
[03:29] <aimchanger> ooo*
[03:29] <dmsuperman> MrStitch, you could try that. Also, ask him to save it as a 97/2000 or 2003 format, and that will more than likely clear it up
[03:29] <cirkit> hi
[03:30] <MrStitch> I'll be back
[03:30] <cirkit> my new laptop gets here this week which has a 3945 intel pro wireless ABG card in it ... is this supported in Ubuntu?
[03:30] <alphakamp> Saint `Dia: there are other solutions to Iptables, just open up synaptic and search firewall
[03:30] <Orbixx|Mob> It worked. But the resolution hasn't taken effect.
[03:30] <lindenle> ’╗┐ Hi I am trying  to follow the example at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization
[03:31] <lindenle> but nothing is *seamless*
[03:31] <aimchanger> cirkit... almost anything is supported by ubuntu
[03:31] <zero> hey, is there any version of ubuntu i can install w/o a cd drive, like fluxbuntu or somthing similar and really light
[03:31] <Pelo> lindenle, that may depend on your cmputer's capacity
[03:31] <birge-local> what if you try the display resolution control panel? does it now give you the option of setting the resolution you added to xorg.conf?
[03:31] <cirkit> aimchanger: ok
[03:31] <Orbixx|Mob> Nope.
[03:31] <lindenle> ’╗┐Pelo: Why i get the full rdesktop just fine
[03:31] <Pelo> !install > zero  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[03:32] <icesword> ere4si, hi.
[03:32] <birge-local> damn. i'm afraid i've exausted my meager knowledge. i'm sorry i couldn't help you. hopefully somebody else here might be able to.
[03:32] <zero> Pelo, thanks
[03:32] <ace12345> cirkit: I've been having some trouble getting the 3945 abg to work, but it seems like it should work eventually
[03:32] <ere4si> icesword: g'day :)
[03:32] <dmsuperman> Pelo, I just want to re-iterate that I love you. There's probably only one _minor_ thing I would change in gedit, then it would be the perfect editor
[03:32] <Orbixx|Mob> Thanks anyway.
[03:32] <aimchanger> just search the forums for it
[03:33] <Pelo> dmsuperman, tell me and I'll see what I can do but you'll have to compile the source I am not making you a deb packge
[03:33]  * Pelo is kidding of course 
[03:33] <dmsuperman> Pelo, It's even better than notepad++, except it doesn't have code collapsing, and there's one tiny little thing in n++ I love, where the horizontal scrollbar only goes as far as any of the currently text needs
[03:33] <dmsuperman> Pelo, :O
[03:33] <dmsuperman> Pelo, do you know what I mean though?
[03:34] <Orbixx|Mob> Does anyone know how to start a wireless connection? It's configured, just not startin.
[03:34] <techqbert> is kpresenter any better than open office impress?
[03:34] <Pelo> dmsuperman, about the scroll bar ? yes,  can't you turn off text wrapping ?
[03:34] <ace12345> cirkit: only advice I'd give is to switch to the iwl3945 module and blacklist ipw3945, the rest should be ok...
[03:34] <cirkit> ace12345: ahhh will keep that in mind :)
[03:35] <IdleOne> Pelo: how do I change ownership of a file in my home folder?
[03:35] <ani1> IdleOne: chown
[03:35] <dmsuperman> Pelo. Yeah, that's fine, only what I mean is that like, if a line only goes out to column 150, then the scrollbar only goes that far. If a line goes out to column 400, and that line is currently being viewed, then the horizontal scrollbar gets longer. this is just a little stupid feature, don't worry about it
[03:35] <Pelo> dmsuperman, check in gedit > menu > edit > prefs > first tab ,
[03:35] <dmsuperman> Pelo, but I'd really love code expanding
[03:35] <ace12345> obixx: should be able to do an ifup on it, e.g. ifup eth1 or ifup wlan0, if it's all configured...
[03:35] <Lifeisfunny> sorry
[03:35] <IdleOne> ani1: chown /path/to/file username?
[03:35] <firstohit> dmsuperman still getting the error You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[03:36] <Pelo> dmsuperman, check the pluggin tab in the prefs
[03:36] <ani1> IdleOne: chown group:user filename  man chown :)
[03:36] <Orbixx|Mob> Anyone know how to bring
[03:36] <Orbixx|Mob> Ah.
[03:36] <dmsuperman> firstohit, You ran all 3 of those commands I gave you?
[03:36] <aimchanger> orbit...?
[03:36] <Intangir> is there an easy way to switch back andforth between metacity and compiz in ubuntu? like via a notification icon
[03:36] <dmsuperman> Pelo, yeah it's not in there
[03:36] <Intangir> i used to have one on a much older version of beryl
[03:36] <dmsuperman> Pelo, I've checked
[03:37] <Intangir> but i dont know what it is now
[03:37] <Orbixx|Mob> And if ifup says my interface is already configured?
[03:37] <firstohit> dmsuperman let me give it antoher try, I keep getting the message upon boot about the low resolution and I like to cancel it because it does not loook right, it does not show my card or the right resolution
[03:37] <aimchanger> tangir... you cud trya launcher or bash script
[03:37] <Danish989> dmsuperman, it didn't work .. after booting it directly took me to that error screen and I tried pressing esc as soon as the computer loaded (even repeatedly) but it didn't take me to the OS choice screen .. and pressing E at the error screen didn't work either
[03:37] <Pelo> dmsuperman, hold on , checking www.gedit.org to see if there is any pluggins that you can add
[03:37] <bosanac> !limewire
[03:37] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install /msg ubotu java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider /msg ubotu FrostWire as an alternative.
[03:37] <bosanac> hm
[03:37] <ani1> Intangir:  you could probaly metacity --replace .. also you could write a bash script for compiz --replace and metacity to switch back and forth
[03:37] <dmsuperman> firstohit, that's because it hasn't been configured yet, just click continue
[03:38] <ace12345> orbixx: hmm yeah i hate all this wireless config... try doing an ifdown on it first - ifdown wlan0 or whatever?
[03:38] <ace12345> i dunno :s
[03:38] <spork969> how to i open a read-only file as administrator? i have a slide show that somebody made and burnt, onto a cd and for some reason its read only, but i need to edit it...
[03:38] <IdleOne> ani1: thanks
[03:38] <Pelo> dmsuperman,  I don't see anyting,  looks like you'll have to take it as is
[03:38] <dmsuperman> firstohit, it'll bring it up in low-settings mode. backup your xorg.conf, and run nvidia-xconfig as root, then try nvidia-settings
[03:38] <dmsuperman> Pelo, darn :(
[03:38] <firstohit> dmsuperman more annoying is I can't see the nvidia logo at boot because of the tyy did not exit properly how can I get rid of it and verify which driver I am using?
[03:38] <Danish989> dmsuperman, I even tried coming on #ubuntu from my ps3 .. lol .. but apparently I need java 1.4x for that chat to work so I couldnt and had to boot from live cd again
[03:38] <bosanac> people somebody knows some program for Linux to download mp3 music? ( program like bearshare or something like that ? )
[03:39] <nickrud> spork969 copy it to your home dir (or desktop)  and edit it from there
[03:39] <Pelo> bosanac, www.frostwire.org
[03:39] <dmsuperman> Pelo, can you help Danish989 out with getting into the grub menu at boot?
[03:39] <bosanac> !frostwire
[03:39] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:39] <Pelo> Danish989, you donT' see the grub menu when you boot your computer ?
[03:40] <dmsuperman> Pelo,  I thought it was just Escape but he wasn't able to get it figured out. He needs to edit the commands from the grub menu so he can test it out and figure out which one is his working ubuntu partition
[03:40] <Danish989> pelo, no, it starts loading grub (stage 1.5) and then gets an error 22
[03:40] <ani1> I have a Belkin 7050 using rt73 driver the device is recognized but it cannot scan for new networks the modules are loaded correctly as rebooting shows my wlan0 with correct iwconfig output. I have wifi-radar and kwifimanager both of which will not show new devices. Kwifimanager is flaky and sometimes displays our neighbors router but not often. I have tried sudo iwlist wlan0 scan but it...
[03:40] <ani1> ...never pulls results any way to scan for wifi networks for the rt73 usb devices?
[03:41] <Pelo> Danish989, it's not finding your ubuntu partion and the /boot/grub folder on it ,  the easiets way I know to fix that is to get the super grub cd and use that to tell it where it is
[03:41] <firstohit> dmsuperman how can I get rid of the tyy at boot ?
[03:41] <Pelo> Danish989, hold on I 'm gettin hyou a link
[03:41] <dmsuperman> firstohit, Try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start ?
[03:41] <bosanac> Hello people i am running Linux Ubuntu 7.10 and can somebody tell me how to install FrostWire on my pc ?
[03:41] <dmsuperman> Pelo, he already did that
[03:41] <amenado> ani1-> what kind of output you get when you do  iwconfig wlan0 scan  ?
[03:41] <spork969> thanks nickrud
[03:42] <dmsuperman> Pelo, he's got the same problem I do
[03:42] <Pelo> dmsuperman, what ?
[03:42] <spork969> how do i change the background of a slideshow to a solid color?
[03:42] <dmsuperman> Pelo, the live cd told me hd1,5, but my bios has my SATA drives backwards, and i actually had to boot to hd0,5
[03:42] <ani1> amenado: no scan results
[03:42] <robbysmith> hi
[03:42] <Pelo> sigh  dmsuperman Danish989 meet me in #grub
[03:42] <robbysmith> is anyone familiar with mythbuntu?
[03:43] <bosanac> !bittorrent
[03:43] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[03:43] <dmsuperman> Pelo, I've already gotten it figured out for me, or do you want me there to help with him?
[03:43] <amenado> ani1-> and that interface is up?  if it is up, do you have a longer antenna?
[03:43] <spork969> nvm
[03:43] <Pelo> dmsuperman, well it might help, I'm a bit tired and I need some background and this channel is just too busy I can't deal with agrub problem in here
[03:43] <firstohit> dmsuperman ok let me try to reboot, what should I do with the low resolution thing, should I cancel or click ok with whatever it offers?
[03:44] <Pelo> Danish989, join me in grub
[03:44] <Danish981> pelo, I don't see the Grub menu
[03:44] <dmsuperman> firstohit, Just click continue, it's not going to let you see it in high res until you configure using nvidia-settings
[03:44] <Pelo> Danish981, type /join #grub
[03:44] <Danish981> pelo, it says Grub Loading Stage 1.5 and then just goes into this Error 22
[03:44] <ani1> :\ bad connection
[03:44] <dmsuperman> Danish981, join #grub
[03:44] <Danish981> oh, I didn't know grub had it's own room
[03:44] <ani1> :|
[03:44] <dmsuperman> Pelo and I are in there
[03:45] <firstohit> dmsuperman ok I have an older copy of the xor.conf file I will try using it now
[03:45] <robbysmith> is anyone familiar with mythtv?
[03:45] <firstohit> dmsuperman I will beeot
[03:45] <ani1> !ask | robbysmith
[03:45] <ubotu> robbysmith: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:45] <robbysmith> ok, here goes
[03:45] <Nith> after running for a while in ubuntu, my computer makes a wining noise until I shut it down for a few seconds
[03:46] <ani1> any ideas on why no wireless networks are found after correct driver is installed, through kwifimanager or wifi-radar?
[03:46] <ani1> rt73
[03:46] <robbysmith> can someone walk me through connecting to a backend with a remote frontend on mythtv (mythbuntu)?
[03:46] <Nith> I think it's the fan, is there any way to resolve this without shutting down?
[03:46] <gregcha117> so, my sound is busted on ubuntu, but it works fine on the livecd anyway i can take the sound information from the livecd and replace it on my current ubuntu install because i cant figure out why its not working
[03:46] <ani1> !mythtv | robbysmith   if you just need general information look here
[03:46] <ubotu> robbysmith   if you just need general information look here: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[03:46] <bosanac> Hello people i am running Linux Ubuntu 7.10 and can somebody tell me how to install FrostWire on my pc ?
[03:47] <Jordan_U> !frostwire | bosanac
[03:47] <ubotu> bosanac: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:47] <ani1> gregcha117: have you checked alsamixer to make sure its not muted?
[03:47] <gregcha117> ani1: yep
[03:47] <Jordan_U> Nith, Could be simply that your computer is getting hot and that is causing the fans to turn on, try under clocking the CPU with the CPU frequency applet
[03:48] <efirewick> Does anyone know of any customer database software for ubuntu?
[03:48] <gregcha117> ani1: my sound has been missing for a while and it seems to be recognized properly by the sound settings and alsamixer but yet i get no sound, i booted from a livecd i downloaded and it works on this but not on my actual install
[03:48] <gregcha117> id rather not have to reinstall it completely
[03:48] <ani1> !alsa | gregcha117  check here if you havent already
[03:48] <ubotu> gregcha117  check here if you havent already: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:49] <Nith> Jordan_U: I'll try underclocking but it only takes a few seconds for the sound to stop and then I start back up and it works without any problem
[03:49] <robbysmith> is your livecd newer than your installed distro?
[03:49] <firstohit> dmsuperman same message You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[03:49] <firstohit> dmsuperman and Compiz is not working
[03:49] <Jordan_U> Nith, it may then be that you will only have to underclock the CPU for a few seconds
[03:50] <Nith> ok
[03:50] <firstohit> dmsuperman What is solution ? how can I find out if the nvidia driver is working ?
[03:50] <Nith> I've underclocked it, now we'll give it a few
[03:50] <Nith> thx
[03:50] <Jordan_U> Nith, To be clear, I mean to use the CPU frequency applet to change the frequency in software
[03:50] <ani1> I have a Belkin 7050 using rt73 driver the device is recognized but it cannot scan for new networks the modules are loaded correctly as rebooting shows my wlan0 with correct iwconfig output. I have wifi-radar and kwifimanager both of which will not show new AP's. Kwifimanager is flaky and sometimes displays our neighbors router but not often and its never displayed any of the 3 routers in...
[03:50]  * Nith nods, I just chagned it from 1.7 to 0.6
[03:50] <ani1> ...our house that the windows machine finds :\. I have tried sudo iwlist wlan0 scan but it never pulls results any way to scan for wifi networks for the rt73 usb devices or wireless tricks to get this working?
[03:51] <owen1> how to change the fonts size when using transcode to embedd subs into an .avi?
[03:52] <efirewick> ani1: I don't know if it will help, but I had to assign my card to eth0 to get it to work properly.
[03:53] <HaibaraAi> i'm running linuxmint right now and trying to get on wifi but there is no  "connect to other wireless network"  option. does anyone have any idea how to get that option to show up?
[03:53] <ddif> !iwconfig
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iwconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:53] <aleka> I am using the current Firefox[2.0.0.13] package from the ubuntu Repos on Gutsy... Firefox has been terribly slow and eats up a lot of CPU if I have 2 or more tabs open (can't even switch tabs while the new tab is loading). I do not have compiz enabled... is there a know issue with this? What can I do to improve FF performance?
[03:54] <amenado> ani1-> how did you verify that rt73 module is loaded?
[03:54] <travisat> aleka: do you have any plugins for firefox installed?
[03:54] <friedtofu> ff3!
[03:55] <loufoque> aleka: try using firefox in safe mode and see if you encounter the same problems
[03:55] <loufoque> aleka: if you don't, then something is wrong with your profile
[03:55] <loufoque> possibly your extensions
[03:55] <ddif> guys,rise,use swiftfox,lol
[03:55] <ere4si> swiftfox isn't open source
[03:55] <ani1> amenado: dmesg | grep rt73 && lshw
[03:56] <efirewick> Does anyone know of any customer database software for ubuntu?
[03:56] <friedtofu> isnt there another? swiftweasel that is opensource
[03:56] <ani1> aleka: theirs firefox tweaks you can make with about:config like disabling ipv6 amongst may other things  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=8GZ&q=firefox+tweaks&btnG=Search
[03:56] <usser> efirewick, what do you mean?
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> ddif: swift fox isn't that much different from firefox... but FF is free
[03:56] <ddif> haha,i like swiftfox
[03:56] <aleka> travisat: Only active Add-on I can think of is Adblock Plus
[03:56] <usser> efirewick, if u have somebody who knows a bit of sql u can use mysql or postgresql
[03:56] <HaibaraAi> ._.
[03:57] <friedtofu> iceweasel / or icecat is more "free" haha
[03:57] <firstohit> dmsuperman I have nvidia-glx-new I am now instlling nvidia-glx
[03:57] <travisat> aleka: oh well, that doesn't have any problem at least for me,  The only problems with cpu I have ever had came from plugins
[03:57] <spork969> i made a button in my presentation. how do i go about making that button make a text box appear?
[03:57] <efirewick> usser, thanks I'll look into it.
[03:57] <Nith> there's been no change in this noise -.-
[03:58] <usser> efirewick, or u can use openoffice base tool similar to access
[03:58] <Nith> anyone know how in software to stop and start the fan?
[03:58] <Nith> as in an applet or command to do it?
[03:59] <aleka> Yeah, even trying to switch between open/loaded tabs makes the cpu jump up to 85%+ >.. wonder if the anti-phising feature makes FF slow
[03:59] <bouma> is there a way to do a rgb gamma calibration under linux (ubuntu) the same way as the nvidia wizard does under xp ?
[03:59] <efirewick> usser, I didn't know if anyone has made specific software or not. I've never used sql
[04:00] <usser> efirewick, try openoffice base first its easy and to a large extend self explanatory much like MS access
[04:01] <efirewick> I am currently using openoffice, I was just looking for something a bit more complex and configurable.
[04:01] <robbysmith> surely bouma i think it depends on driver
[04:01] <CapaH> Does anyone here know an "easy" way to take a harddrive partition that is lets say 30 gigabytes, but only has 10 gigabytes used -- and create an image of JUST the 10 used gigabytes ?
[04:02] <robbysmith> partimage
[04:02] <CapaH> something like dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/file.img  but where /dev/ad0 is only the 10 used gigabytes
[04:02] <robbysmith> compressed
[04:02] <CapaH> partimage?
[04:02] <robbysmith> resulting image will be less than 10gb
[04:02] <cynyr> is there a way to set each X screen to have a seperate background with gnome?
[04:02] <ddif> !backup | CapaH
[04:02] <ubotu> CapaH: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[04:02] <efirewick> usser, It just seems that you search on it and windows has hundreds of programs. but I have not found 1 for ubuntu...
[04:03] <CapaH> robbysmith: Well just piping through gzip will achieve a -- less than 10 gig storage space, but my goal is to --- basically obtain just a disk image of the 10 gigabytes itself
[04:03] <efirewick> usser, I just can't stand to use windows for anything important...
[04:03] <CapaH> I think the only way to do this (that I know of) is to create a 10 gig file, newfs it, mount it as a virtual drive, and copy the 10 gigs to it (gzippd perhaps)
[04:03] <Scunizi> I suddenly find myself as "another one"!.. I've just installed server then ubu desktop on top and need to get my wireless working.. lspci reports Atheros AR5212/AR5213 Multiprotocol rev 01.. Any help?
[04:03] <fish> can someone point me to s a good ISO burner for linux?
[04:03] <Scunizi> fish k3b'
[04:03] <ani1> ^
[04:03] <CapaH> fish: Ubuntu has one built in - - just right click an iso and 'write to disk'
[04:04] <cynyr> fish: or the one built into gnome
[04:04] <usser> efirewick, mysql would be your best bet but you'll have to spend some time configuring and learning it
[04:05] <cynyr> CapaH: dd and bzip is probably your best bet if you need a disk image
[04:05] <HaibaraAi> Rolling Star	3:09	YUI	Rolling Star	Rock		37	1/6/2008 7:45 PM
[04:05] <HaibaraAi> er. wrong thing.
[04:06] <fish> Scunizi, CapaH, and cynyr, thank you... I was thinking about k3b before I asked, I just wanted someone else to recommend it, thanks
[04:07] <cynyr> fish: i haven't used it recently, but it was ok last time i used it
[04:07] <usser> efirewick, i usually use phpmyadmin to do configuration tasks and something like mysql-navigator for client
[04:07] <ddif> pen, hiya
[04:08] <pen> ddif: hi
[04:08] <efirewick> usser, is it pretty stable?
[04:09] <ani1> !info mysql-navigator > efirewick
[04:09] <ani1> mysql is stable yes
[04:09] <usser> efirewick, what mysql? well yea lots of companies use it
[04:09] <fish> Anyone: does k3b require a kde?... I started thinking about that when i realized it started with a k...lmao......?
[04:09] <Scunizi> no
[04:09] <fish> i use gnome
[04:09] <efirewick> usser, good, thanks.
[04:09] <usser> fish, kde libraries
[04:09] <ani1> no it was built for kde but you dont have to install it
[04:09] <usser> fish, not kde itself
[04:09] <fish> oh
[04:10] <usser> efirewick, np
[04:11] <cynyr> fish: your best bet then is to just use the iso burner built in to "gnome"
[04:11] <Scunizi> I've found that I need to install the restricted-drivers modules to enable wireless (I think)  however the system recommends linux-restricted-modules-<kernel #> - server.. there isn't a package with -server at the end.. :/
[04:11] <IndyGunFreak> fish: gnomebaker is pertty good, thats wha ti use.
[04:11] <buzzsaw> when i did    sudo echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward i am getting a premission denied
[04:11] <IndyGunFreak> !info gnomebaker | fish
[04:11] <ubotu> fish: gnomebaker (source: gnomebaker): application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-2 (gutsy), package size 996 kB, installed size 2972 kB
[04:13] <fish> alrighty
[04:13] <ddif> hehehe,so quiet today
[04:13] <fish> I am using the Write to disc option in the context menu in gnome
[04:14] <buzzsaw> i am trying to make it less quiet but not working ;-)
[04:14] <Scunizi> so what's the difference between packages ending in -generic and -386?
[04:15] <IdleOne> one your insurance provider will pay for the other is on you ?
[04:15] <IdleOne> guess you need to be in the US to get that joke
[04:15] <c0Ld> is there any way to force nautilus to NOT use a .trash folder for usb keys?
[04:16] <firstohit> dmsuperman I was not succesful installing the new driver, I am back to older driver but compix does not work I get Desktop effects could not be enabled
[04:16] <firstohit> dmsuperman any suggestions?
[04:17] <CloudFX> what app can i use to take over for microsoft publisher?
[04:17] <spork969> is there ANY way for me to change a text box or image to a button that makes something on the page appear?
[04:17] <amdma2003> does anyone know if the new ubuntu 8.04 have better support for atheros wireless cards?
[04:18] <IndyGunFreak> CloudFX: http://linuxappfinder.com/alternatives
[04:18] <Scunizi> CloudFX, you can use Openoffice Draw which does pretty good and has great output or if you need a full on multipage pagemaker type program Scribus
[04:18] <CloudFX> amdma2003: go to #ubuntu+1 for hardy support
[04:18] <CloudFX> thanks
[04:18] <amdma2003> ok thanks
[04:19] <ani1> I have a Belkin 7050 using rt73 driver the device is recognized but it cannot scan for new networks the modules are loaded correctly as rebooting shows my wlan0 with correct iwconfig output and dmesg | grep rt73 along with lshw show that the driver is loaded. I have wifi-radar and kwifimanager both of which will not show new AP's. Kwifimanager is flaky and sometimes displays our neighbors...
[04:19] <ani1> ...router but not often and its never displayed any of the 3 routers in our house that the windows machine finds :\. I have tried sudo iwlist wlan0 scan but it never pulls results any way to scan for wifi networks for the rt73 usb devices or wireless tricks to get this working?
[04:19] <Zelta> I think I have just the guide for you, ani1
[04:20] <c0Ld> is there any way to force nautilus to NOT use a .trash folder for usb keys?
[04:21] <greeg> hi
[04:21] <Scunizi> ani1, wifi-radar?
[04:21] <ani1> its a gui prog for setting up wifi networks
[04:21] <lee__> hey all!
[04:21] <Zelta> ani1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=563547
[04:22] <IdleOne> unop__: evening. I have a curious issue with that script you wrote for me. some of the image is cut off and it seems to be displayed in reverse on my desktop http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/566/wpsetscreenshotni6.png
[04:22] <meatpuppet> hi, after live Cd boot screen, everything goes totally black for a few moments, then it loads the desktop.... is this a bad sign?? I cannot see the text on the screen durring shutdown too... i want to install it , is it safe? TIA
[04:22] <Scunizi> ani1, sorry I was mentioning wifi radar but then I saw your previous post that you already had it..
[04:22] <Scunizi> meatpuppet, no..
[04:22] <Scunizi> meatpuppet, the live cd takes a little while to set itself up..
[04:23] <Julolidine>  If anyone is a networking expert, I have kind of a bizarre problem.  After a restart, my wireless network card stopped "scanning" and can't see any networks anymore.
[04:23] <Julolidine> iwlist scan yields     eth1      No scan results
[04:23] <ani1> hmm Zelta  i would prefer not to taint my kernel with ndiswrapper seeings how the linux driver is loaded correctly but i suppose i could give it a whirl thanks
[04:23] <meatpuppet> ok thanks :)
[04:24] <cynyr> is there a way to set each X screen to have a seperate background with gnome?
[04:24] <putterson> In xoscope I am getting "sound ioctl Bad file descriptor" is there any way I can get it to work?
[04:26] <polysilicon> Hi my synaptics touchpad was functioning properly, but today it is not responding. I checked the /dev/input/mice file, it is not outputting anything when use touchpad.. how to debug this problem?
[04:27] <Draconicus> polysilicon: How are you checking it? Have you reconfigured X recently?
[04:27] <Draconicus> If it was working when you reconfigured X, and you've only restarted since then, you likely disabled it accidentally.
[04:27] <polysilicon> no I tried. cat /dev/input/mice
[04:27] <polysilicon> no output to console
[04:27] <Draconicus> polysilicon: Ah.
[04:27] <Draconicus> Well then...
[04:28] <cynyr> polysilicon: update the kernel recently?
[04:28] <Draconicus> polysilicon:  Yeah, that's bad. Done anything funny in the kernel? Removed any software?
[04:28] <polysilicon> nope
[04:28] <polysilicon> nothing like that, no system modification
[04:28] <titan> hello everyone
[04:28] <f0rmat> i wan't to run ubuntu on my laptop but it is slow booting up and shutting down :( it also has problems shutting down the same as with my desktop and goes to ctrl + alt + F1 screen and then just shows console output of the shutdown :S
[04:28] <polysilicon> I even tried Knoppix Live CD
[04:28] <Draconicus> f0rmat: Welcome to Linux. :\
[04:29] <polysilicon> its showing device synaptics, but touchpad doesn't wotk
[04:29] <f0rmat> i use ubuntu all the time on my desktop for my servers
[04:29] <Scunizi> !upgrade
[04:29] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:30] <cynyr> f0rmat: does it still shutdown correctly?
[04:30] <Julolidine> Knoppix didn't work?
[04:30] <Scunizi> !hardy
[04:30] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:30] <cynyr> polysilicon: disable it in the bios?
[04:30] <f0rmat> also i can't get wireless to work so i have had to use windows :( the drivers for my wireless work with it and yes it shuts down but it's really slow both ways and kicks up a major fuss saying everything is failing
[04:30] <dmsuperman> firstohit, sorry, was helping somebody in #grub.
[04:30] <efirewick> usser, have you heard of the LAMP install for 7.10
[04:31] <dmsuperman> firstohit, I honestly don't know, like I said it worked for me but I wasn't able to get it working _until_ i upgraded
[04:32] <Guest03> I am looking for somebody who can help me upgrade my moto q w/ windows mobile 5.0 to windows mobile 6.1
[04:32] <lee_> go some where else most likely
[04:32] <genii> Guest03: ##windows please
[04:33] <charles|64> Pelo: you still around?
[04:33] <Lycus> I have a working ubuntu install and can apt-get etc. but I get unable to initialize frontend: Dialog errors from debconf when apt-get using. Do I just install ubuntu-standard?
[04:33] <Pelo> charles|64, yes ?
[04:34] <charles|64> Pelo: ok so i did a clean re-install (i had other reasons to do it) and the cdrom will auto mount the install cd and detect packages but still wont for a blank one
[04:34] <nickrud> Lycus try installing the package   dialog
[04:34] <Pelo> charles|64, it mounts data cd rigth away ?
[04:35] <usser> efirewick, yea sure thats how its usually done
[04:35] <charles|64> Pelo: yup
[04:36] <Pelo> charles|64, but when you put in a blank cd nothing happens, ok , can you still burn to it using gnomebaker ?
[04:36] <CloudFX> hi what apps are there similar to microsoft publisher that have templates for newletters, brochures, etc..
[04:36] <bullgard4> What is the value of the DVB-T data stream data rate?
[04:36] <Pelo> charles|64, are you suer you have burner and not jsut a reader ?
[04:36] <charles|64> Pelo: its a dvd cd burner lightscribe
[04:36] <efirewick> usser, good, thank you.
[04:37] <william> Pelo: this is _Silhouette_. I┬┤m in Ubuntu now
[04:37] <Pelo> william, congrats
[04:37] <usser> efirewick, no problem so u decided to go with it?
[04:37] <william> Pelo: the trackpad is killing me, though :P
[04:37] <william> Pelo: ps I booted via usb
[04:38] <IdleOne> bullgard4: I might wrong but I believe a question like that might be better answered in #ubuntustudio
[04:38] <william> Pelo: I am looking in xorg.conf like some people suggested but see nothing about synaptics or touchpad
[04:38] <Pelo> william, I'm sorry I've been on a roll tonight helpign a lot of ppl I don't remember you issue
[04:38] <william> Pelo: but I do see something about a stylus?
[04:38] <bullgard4> IdleOne: Ah, that's an idea. I will give it a try. Thank you.
[04:39] <IdleOne> bullgard4: because they use audio/video software and such they should be able to answer
[04:39] <IdleOne> bullgard4: np
[04:39] <bullgard4> IdleOne: yes, indeed.
[04:40] <efirewick> usser, yeah, I am going to give it a try. I hope it is easy to add/edit, because my wife is the one entering and locating customers...
[04:40] <Pelo> !touchpad
[04:40] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[04:41] <Pelo> william, read up  abit
[04:41] <Pelo> nickrud, are you around ?
[04:41] <charles|64> Pelo: did you get back to me i was on the other system trying to figure this out
[04:41] <nickrud> pelo yes
[04:41] <william> Pelo: where?
[04:41] <Pelo> nickrud, you have a server window opened in yoru chat client right ?
[04:41] <Pelo> !touchpad | william
[04:41] <ubotu> william: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[04:41] <nickrud> Pelo yes
[04:42] <efirewick> usser, I am just worried about the interface. I haven't seen any screen shots or anything about it yet, just info about the install so far.
[04:42] <Pelo> nickrud, all my /notice to you go there
[04:42] <nickrud> Pelo no, they come up in channel
[04:42] <Pelo> ah ok so you are just ignoring me
[04:42] <IdleOne> hehe
[04:43] <nickrud> Pelo oh, bad me. I"m on the computer but xchat's on another desktop, and I have a sound that notifies me of a channel highlight. Notices don't
[04:43] <charles|64> Pelo: does it matter that im running 64bit?
[04:43] <Pelo> nickrud,  tsok
[04:44] <Pelo> charles|64, not for this I dont, think , but it migth have to do with it being a lightscribe,  look it up in the forum ,  itmight need some special handling
[04:44] <IdleOne> irc joke: how does a person in need of attention get it on irc? /notcie me :P
[04:44] <IdleOne> errr
[04:44] <IdleOne> darn typos
[04:44] <charles|64> Pelo: kool thanks
[04:45] <patrickva>  I keep getting redistribution errors and BusyBox when I'm trying to install Ubuntu
[04:45] <CloudFX> how can i get my built in memory card reader to work?
[04:45] <patrickva> Can someone help me out?
[04:46] <patrickva> Anyone?
[04:47] <Pelo> patrickva, what is the issue ?
[04:47] <nickrud> Pelo no, no, no. Just saying that you're doing a damn good job, don't sweat the ones you can't catch.
[04:48] <patrickva>  I keep getting redistribution errors and BusyBox when I'm trying to install Ubuntu from the splash screen.
[04:48] <shadow420> hey nickrud
[04:48] <jadder> bye
[04:48] <nickrud> shadow420 hi
[04:48] <Pelo> patrickva, try the alternate install cd , it is less fussy about hardware and such
[04:49] <jimlay> How can do you get a list of the devices showing up in the nautilus "Comptur" view on the cli?
[04:49] <patrickva> Where can I get the alternative install cd?
[04:49] <patrickva> Pelo?
[04:49] <IdleOne> patrickva: you can also try using all_generic_ide as a parameter
[04:49] <ddif> !download
[04:49] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[04:49] <patrickva> Which one is the alternative?
[04:49] <patrickva> from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/
[04:49] <IdleOne> patrickva: hold on a sec
[04:49] <patrickva> k
[04:50] <shadow420> !request
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about request - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <Pelo> patrickva, there is a a text based installer cd that usualy does a better job at installing without any fuss,   you can get it from the www.ubuntu.com site same as the live cd, but you check the alternate cd box below the download button
[04:50] <patrickva> okay..
[04:50] <patrickva> I don't know how to do text based installers..
[04:50] <IdleOne> http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso patrickva  here you go
[04:50] <Danish989> dmsuperman, still here?
[04:50] <IdleOne> patrickva: it is simple you will see
[04:50] <patrickva> k, thanks idle
[04:50] <IdleOne> np
[04:50] <shadow420> Pelo I used the live CD to install to install ubuntu and I had no problems
[04:51] <hamed> hi
[04:51] <Pelo> shadow420, some ppl do , some hardware configurations are just a little more problematic a live cd is  a very demanding envirommenent
[04:52] <hamed> any body here?
[04:52] <IdleOne> many
[04:52] <patrickva> Yeah
[04:52] <patrickva> I tried LiveCD already
[04:52] <dmsuperman> Danish989, yeah, but if Pelo couldn't get it going then I'm likely not gonna be much more help :s
[04:52] <hamed> ok hi to all
[04:52] <Pelo> dmsuperman, don't underestimate yourself,  or overestimate me
[04:53] <shadow420> pelo I have an old p3 1GHz with 512MB of Ram Old Graphics and sound card and it had no problems
[04:53] <IdleOne> shadow420: usualy older machines work well with ubuntu
[04:53] <Pelo> shadow420, GOOD FOR YOU NOW PISSOFF
[04:53] <patrickva> But the newer ones dont
[04:53] <patrickva> lol
[04:54] <IdleOne> Pelo: lmao :/
[04:54] <dmsuperman> Pelo, nonsense. Just because you can't sit there and recompile your kernel doesn't mean you're a n00b. Not as experience as some of the others, sure, but we all have to start somewhere
[04:54] <jimlay> Anyone use nautilus?
[04:54] <dmsuperman> Pelo, and trust me, I've only used linux for a week haha
[04:54] <dmsuperman> Pelo, so yeh, you're more likely to get it going. I ran out of suggestions before we even got into #grub
[04:54] <efirewick> usser, is there anywhere I can read about how to configure/use this LAMP stuff? I am reading about how to install it on the internet, But I would like to learn more about it before I install it, and I can't find any other info about it...
[04:54] <h00k_> jimlay: sure, I do
[04:54] <Pelo> dmsuperman, see the special colour my last msg was , that's becaue it was private
[04:54] <shadow420> pelo I am sure I can get it to work with my uncles P4 2Ghz 2GB of Ram Decent Graphics card and sound
[04:55] <jimlay> Do you understand where the items in the "computer" view come from?
[04:55] <IdleOne> !lamp | efirewick
[04:55] <ubotu> efirewick: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:55] <shadow420> pelo these are Dells
[04:55] <Pelo> shadow420, if yuou know how to get ubuntu live cd to install on patrickva 's computer wiithout issue by all means have a crack at it
[04:56] <dmsuperman> Pelo, see, even more of a reason i'm a noob. I didn't even know that haha
[04:56] <prem> which is the easiest version of linux for a beginner
[04:56] <dmsuperman> Pelo, how do you even private message
[04:56] <dmsuperman> prem, you're probably in the right channel
[04:56] <fedex1993> How can i reinstall firefox on hardy ?
[04:56] <h00k_> fedex1993: sudo apt-get remove firefox
[04:56] <h00k_> fedex1993: sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:56] <dmsuperman> fedex1993, "sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox" "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[04:56] <genii> prem: Ubuntu and other variations are generally considered best for new users
[04:56] <h00k_> or purge, as well ;)
[04:57] <Balth> Hey guys, how do I downgrade wine to a lower version?
[04:57] <prem> u say ubuntu is easy to learn for a beginner
[04:57] <shadow420> pelo I just have to use a personal Grub Floppy to boot linux until I can get grub to boot from windows bootloader
[04:57] <shadow420> Balth why would u need to do that?
[04:57] <Balth> Because it would seem a game I play broke with the new version.
[04:57] <h00k_> jimlay: "computer:///" shows your mounted drives
[04:58] <shadow420> Balth just send them an e-mail to tell them that a game stopped working with the new version
[04:59] <exophonix> quelqun pourai me guider pas a pas pour metre une image de font a grub svp :(
[04:59] <cpk1> Balth: uninstall the one from the repos and then get the .deb of the older version from winehq
[04:59] <h00k_> Balth: also. there's software called CrossOver Games that specialize in making games work in a linux environment
[04:59] <shadow420> patrickva are you still there?
[04:59] <cpk1> Balth: you will also need to make sure you dont upgrade to the new version of wine on accident until you want to
[04:59] <cpk1> h00k_: wine is basically the same as crossover but free
[05:00] <Balth> Ok thanks.
[05:00] <h00k_> cpk1: well, they modify it specifically to get certain games to work
[05:00] <arunkale> Hello all
[05:00] <suprie> hello all
[05:00] <arunkale> hello suprie
[05:00] <shadow420> well as soon they have all of the popular games to work they will have them all working
[05:00] <suprie> i have a problem with my wifi
[05:00] <cpk1> iirc crossover is geared more towards productivity applications while cedega is more game oriented
[05:01] <suprie> sometime it doesn't caught any wifi signal
[05:01] <h00k_> I have CrossOver Office for productivity
[05:01] <h00k_> I like OneNote2003
[05:01] <Danish989> dmsuperman, remember what you said about bios not getting it right and you had to take a guess at correctly fixing grub?
[05:01] <suprie> im using atheros chipset
[05:01] <gidean> hi
[05:01] <suprie> and using ndiswrapper to make it worked
[05:02] <Jordan_U> suprie, system -> administration -> restricted driver manager didn't work?
[05:02] <suprie> nope
[05:02] <suprie> sometimes it worked
[05:02] <gidean> how do I kill pppoe?
[05:02] <suprie> but sometimes it didn't worked at all
[05:03] <gidean> need to configure it but it says its already running
[05:03] <nickrud> gidean sudo poff should take it down
[05:03] <jimlay> h00k_, thanks. do you know how to list that at the cli? Where is nautilus getting thil list from?
[05:03] <gidean> kill gives me "no process killed"
[05:03] <gidean> poff?
[05:03] <gidean> exellent
[05:04] <nickrud> gidean yeah, pon/poff is the way to start stop pppoe
[05:04] <lindenle> amyone have seamless mode working with virtualbox?
[05:05] <LiMaO> lindenle Ō×Ī it works here. lemme double check once again
[05:05] <shadow420> pelo these are Dell Computers what I have heard are the hardest ones to get a Dual Boot to work with Windows/linux
[05:05] <Pelo> shadow420, why are you telilng me this ?
[05:06] <dmsuperman> shadow420, it doesn't really matter what brand the computer is
[05:06] <patrickva> shadow420, it's easy.
[05:06] <patrickva> Not hard at all with Dell Computers.
[05:06] <h00k_> jimlay: It might be taking it from fstab, and maybe searching /media as well
[05:06] <Pelo> dmsuperman, wereen't you talking about seamless in vbox yesterday ?
[05:06] <dmsuperman> shadow420, I've never heard of a Dell computer that doesn't allow you to change boot order, and that's really all you need so you can install ubuntu
[05:06] <dmsuperman> Pelo, yeah, it's so awesome
[05:06] <millertime_018> hey, if i installed limewire on my linux and its not in the add/remove how do i get it off?
[05:07] <Pelo> dmsuperman, let me introduce you to lindenle
[05:07] <dmsuperman> Pelo, I still haven't rebooted since installing the closed source one, which should allow me to network guest and host OS
[05:07] <genii> millertime_018: You installed how?
[05:07] <Piffer> Most Dell computers support F12, which gives you the boot order list upon startup
[05:07] <dmsuperman> lindenle, I do
[05:07] <gnychis> does anyone know what version of madwifi is pre-installed with ubuntu?
[05:07] <millertime_018> from the internet. like downloaded it
[05:07] <millertime_018> from limewire.com
[05:07] <h00k_> Sometimes DELL used DELETE, F1, or F2 as well.
[05:07] <shadow420> dmsuperman thats one thing I will not do is change the boot order in bios
[05:07] <Pelo> gnychis, you'd have to look it up in synaptic , the package manager in the admin menu
[05:07] <Piffer> and I've not run into any Dell computers over the last...7-8 years that did not allow you to change boot order...
[05:08] <dmsuperman> shadow420, erm, any reason for that?
[05:08] <lindenle> ’╗┐dmsuperman: I think I may have just figured it out
[05:08] <h00k_> Piffer: you are right - they all do.  They pretty much have to
[05:08] <dmsuperman> lindenle, all you have to do is go into the seamless button from the vbox window, tell it to download the iso, mount it to cd
[05:08] <shadow420> dmsuperman I am confused alittle
[05:08] <h00k_> bed.  back later.  Peace.
[05:08] <Pelo> millertime_018, you an remove it from synaptic in the admin menu
[05:08] <dmsuperman> lindenle, then inside windows vm, install it, reboot, and choose Seamless integration from the vbox window and it should work
[05:08] <efirewick> idleone, thanks, that was a lot of good info. not too much on how it works though, just mainly install notes...
[05:08] <millertime_018> how do i do that? system>...?
[05:08] <CapaH> I just mounted a new harddrive that is type ntfs --- I am surprised that simply right clicking it doesn't present a "format disk" option, so I am wondering wehre I go to find that
[05:08] <shadow420> dmsuperman well I am trying to get grub to boot from windows boot loader
[05:09] <Piffer> You have to go faaaaar back in time to find a BIOS that did not allow you to change that, and then you'll probably have a DIN keyboard plug as well :-) hehe
[05:09] <kelvin911> how to send custom smiley gif in pidgin?
[05:09] <lindenle> ’╗┐dmsuperman: yes, how do i enable seamless with the VBManager?
[05:09] <dmsuperman> lindenle, it does force the windows taskbar overtop of your main taskbar, but I either just hide it or unlock it and move it to 1 side
[05:09] <Pelo> millertime_018, menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager,   use the search button, type limewire   it will show up in hte list ,  see the green button,  right lick  uninstall
[05:09] <dmsuperman> lindenle, from the vbox window with your guest OS, from the main menu, there's a button for Enable seamless mode
[05:09] <htmljunkie> so mack are you in here?
[05:09] <Piffer> We're WAY many people in this chan...1200 +    :-) Ubuntu rules
[05:09] <dmsuperman> lindenle, or something to that effect, it's in the first menu
[05:09] <gidean> /usr/bin/poff: No pppd is running.  None stopped. but when I run pppeoconf it says somethinf is already running?
[05:09] <lindenle> ’╗┐dmsuperman: also it looks terrible ... I mean without the windows....
[05:10] <CapaH> Where do you go to format a disk?
[05:10] <nickrud> gidean try sudo killall pppd
[05:10] <dmsuperman> millertime_018 i suggest frostwire instead
[05:10] <rullie> CapaH, fdisk
[05:10] <Danish989> dpsuperman, help!
[05:10] <dmsuperman> lindenle, what do you mean?
[05:10] <dmsuperman> Danish989, what happened now?
[05:10] <CapaH> rullie: There is no simple gui way?
[05:10] <gidean> will try ..
[05:10] <CapaH> I mean I can always use newfs etc but -- thought there was a simpler 'clickable' way
[05:11] <nickrud> gidean if that doesn't work, give the exact error message it gives
[05:11] <lindenle> ’╗┐dmsuperman: I want to start it this way : VBoxVRDP -startvm "winXP"
[05:11] <htmljunkie> there is a simple way
[05:11] <htmljunkie> use a live cd
[05:11] <shadow420> dmsuperman when I try to load file ubuntu.bin or bootsect.lnx all I get is GRUB and frezzes
[05:11] <htmljunkie> if you want to reformat the drive
[05:11] <djik> just a quick question: does hardy install from windows but onto an xfs partition?
[05:11] <CapaH> htmljunkie: It is an external drive
[05:11] <htmljunkie> ohhh
[05:12] <rullie> CapaH, why do you assume having button means simpler?
[05:12] <Robinson> hey, through SSH, can I send my ubuntu system into hibernation and then wake it up through ssh again?
[05:12] <gidean> ok...brb
[05:12] <LSG> djik: Go to #Ubuntu+1 for question concerning Hardy
[05:12] <CapaH> rullie: I don't -- but I like to know the full featureset I have available with Ubuntu
[05:12] <rullie> Robinson, no
[05:12] <nickrud> Robinson if it's hibernating, it's not listening to anything
[05:12] <dmsuperman> lindenle, you mean start your vbox from the commandline? i'm not sure how, i usually just open vbox, start the os, then close the vbox window and turn on seamless
[05:13] <dmsuperman> shadow420, that's over my head, sorry
[05:13] <Piffer> Robinson: Only via another system and WoL... which I guess spells 'No'  :-(
[05:13] <rullie> CapaH, with gnome, you mean :)
[05:13] <shadow420> dmsuperman and I used sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/home/username/Desktop/ubuntu.bin bs=512 count=1
[05:13] <CapaH> yes with gnome
[05:13] <CapaH> correct :)
[05:13] <Robinson> Piffer: no indeed, its an old old p3 system
[05:13] <lindenle> ’╗┐dmsuperman: and what about it looking bad?
[05:13] <gidean> need to run pppoeconf but when I do I get:  Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access             Ōöé
[05:13] <gidean>           Ōöé Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please    Ōöé
[05:13] <gidean>           Ōöé check your network and modem cables. Another reason      Ōöé
[05:13] <gidean>           Ōöé for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe   Ōöé
[05:13] <gidean>           Ōöé process which controls the modem.
[05:13] <FloodBot3> gidean: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:13] <Robinson> em, is there a similar state to hibernation where fans are off and hd is off also ?
[05:13] <bouma> robbysmith, yeah true. i guess i just need a good image/guide to do the calibration with
[05:14] <Piffer> Wonder if you can setup a modem and do a wake on dial... but that would suck, cause who has phone lines these days? heh
[05:14] <nickrud> gidean ah,  if ps -A | grep  ppp doesn't come back with anything, then it's the first reason in the error message
[05:14] <buzzsaw> i have tried https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/firewall-configuration.html many times over and i cant seem to get masquerading to work :-(
[05:14] <shadow420> dmsuperman do you have an Idea how I can get windows to boot grub?
[05:15] <gidean> trying to get my father online....over the phone... :(
[05:15] <dmsuperman> lindenle, it doesn't look bad to me. Of course, the XP windows don't match the ubuntu theme, but you could always patch your windows uxtheme.dll and find a similar theme
[05:15] <gidean> he loves ubuntu....'cept right now :)
[05:15] <eddyqw> I'm looking for help with updating, I keep getting an error "bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing." when I run 'apt-get update' (on the gutsy/main package, if that makes any difference)
[05:15] <dmsuperman> shadow420, no, i did it the other way
[05:15] <genii> gidean: Welcome to the wonderful world of IT support
[05:15] <dmsuperman> shadow420, i have grub boot windows
[05:15] <hamed> what means "cyber man"
[05:15] <nickrud> gidean you might find it easier to let the modem handle the connection, try pointing the browser at 192.168.0.1 , 1.1, 0.254, 1.254 and see if you can configure the modem directly.
[05:15] <lindenle> ’╗┐dmsuperman: looks like 8 colors to me...
[05:15] <gidean> LOL I'm IT lmao
[05:15] <Pelo> shadow420, weren't you the one I fixed it for earlier?
[05:15] <dmsuperman> gidean, just give up haha
[05:16] <dmsuperman> lindenle, even with seamless turned off?
[05:16] <gidean> lol
[05:16] <lee_> Hello one and all
[05:16] <shadow420> dmsuperman I have went that way and windows gave me sh** fits about it
[05:16] <dmsuperman> shadow420, I just installed Ubuntu first, then installed windows, then re-wrote grub and chainloaded to windows XP
[05:16] <shadow420> pelo no I don't think so
[05:16] <gidean> configure the modem?
[05:17] <dmsuperman> Pelo, there was another shadow but it was Shadow and then some numbers
[05:17] <Robinson> soooooo, no wannabe-hibernation state that still leaves which can awoken from ssh ?
[05:17] <dmsuperman> shadow420, that also lets me hibernate windows, since it goes to grub first and won't force me to resume my hibernation
[05:17] <lindenle> dmsuperman: changed it back to 32 bit and it looks  ok
[05:17] <DBautell> maybe look into wake on LAN, but I know nothing
[05:17] <CapaH> If I want to format a disk to be useful in a variety of platforms such as Open/FreeBSD - Linux - etc -- what is the best format to use? ext3 ? ufs ?
[05:17] <gidean> do what to the modem?
[05:17] <Pelo> dmsuperman, ah, so many shadows
[05:17] <dmsuperman> lindenle, 16bit you mean? er, 24bit, one of the 2
[05:17] <dmsuperman> Pelo, heh, yeah
[05:17] <lindenle> 24
[05:18] <lindenle> dmsuperman how do i move the taskbar?
[05:18] <dmsuperman> so, has anybody gotten the Kate tab bar extension to work?
[05:18] <dmsuperman> lindenle, right click the taskbar, disable Lock taskbar
[05:18] <shadow420> dmsuperman well I don't use hybernation and windows I use it more often than linux
[05:18] <lindenle> dmsuperman:  did that now?
[05:18] <dmsuperman> lindenle, then just drag it somewhere else. I have dual monitor, so I like to just put it on the top of my right monitor, but i'm not sure what you'd like
[05:18] <nickrud> gidean yes, most pppoe modems can give you a dhcp addres.  Make sure the file /etc/network/interfaces has the two lines:   auto eth0  <newline> iface eth0 inet dhcp  , then run sudo ifup eth0 . then if you get an inet address in ifconfig , eth0 stanza, you can talk to the modem
[05:19] <lindenle> can i put it on the left?
[05:19] <eddyqw> I'm looking for help with updating, I keep getting an error "bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing." after it downloads the gutsy/main package (this is using 'apt-get update')
[05:19] <dmsuperman> shadow420, regardless, i find it easier just to install grub and chainload windows xp
[05:19] <shadow420> dmsuperman I use linux to play some games and other project
[05:19] <arvind_khadri> CapaH, i thik ufs
[05:19] <gooody> what is the recommended java IDE for ubuntu gutsy?
[05:19] <mosno> gooody: eclipse?
[05:19] <dmsuperman> especially since windows xp is more likely to get reinstalled, so when i do that i can just re-fix grub. it's more of a pain to get windows bootloader reinstalled and booting to grub for me
[05:20] <dmsuperman> shadow420, I have switched to linux full-time now, windows is only for games and some windows only apps i need for work
[05:21] <shadow420> dmsuperman well I am looking the other way so when windows does need to be reinstalled all I have to do is add the line to the bootloader then I get linux back
[05:21] <SeaPhor> dmsuperman: what games do you play?
[05:21] <Tirams> i have a ATI card and i've been forced to use Hardy Heron, but I want to switch to Gutsy.  Is there a way to repackage the ISO so that the proper graphics drivers are in the livecd?
[05:21] <dmsuperman> shadow420, I personally would find it easier to reinstall grub, all you have to do is run grub, root (hdX,Y), setup (hdX)
[05:21] <dmsuperman> shadow420, otherwise you have to re-find the ubuntu.bin file again don't you?
[05:22] <krakcer> no
[05:22] <dmsuperman> SeaPhor, Assassin's Creed lately, UT3, COD4, Supreme Commander
[05:22] <LiMaO> dmsuperman Ō×Ī get a playstation 2 and an xbox 360. then you will have one more reason to get rid of windows
[05:22] <shadow420> dmsuperman I keep a copy on my external HD
[05:22] <cwall0868> noob messing around w/AIGLX on a 64bit followed the walk through rebooted and was prompted system was crashing..... selected diff option and loaded fine any help?
[05:22] <DBautell> vegastrike
[05:22] <lindenle> dmsuperman: Can i make x-paste work with it?
[05:23] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, no, not a console fan. I don't care that windows is on my system, I just use ubuntu primarily. Plus, Supreme commander isn't on console :P
[05:23] <shadow420> which Windows/Ubuntu can read and write too
[05:23] <dmsuperman> lindenle, you man a clipboard that works between guest and host?
[05:23] <SeaPhor> dmsuperman: was asking because most of the games i want to play actually play better in Ubuntu linux, Delta force, star Wars, City of Heroes, etx
[05:24] <dmsuperman> lindenle, it's just a normal option, i think it was even enabled by default
[05:24] <buzzsaw> you should try crossfire ;-)   fun linux baised game :-0
[05:24] <dmsuperman> SeaPhor, yeh, the games i play are pretty demanding and i highly doubt they'll work too well in linux
[05:24] <CapaH> How do I format as ufs ? there is no such thing as mkfs.ufs ?
[05:24] <dmsuperman> SeaPhor, Oh yeah, and Halo, Halo 2, and Crysis
[05:24] <SeaPhor> dmsuperman: have you tried Cedega?
[05:25] <dmsuperman> SeaPhor, This machine was really built to game, but I use it as a heavy workstation for photoshop and cinema4d work too
[05:25] <kelvin911> cedega, wine, which one is good?
[05:25] <dmsuperman> SeaPhor, no, what genre is it?
[05:25] <LiMaO> dmsuperman Ō×Ī the only game i've ever missed on windows is age of empires. oh man i used to love that
[05:25] <Peddy> can anyone tell me where the image file for the Volume icon that pops up when I hit the keyboard volume button is?
[05:25] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, I couldn't go without my Supreme Commander, that's the most epic of all epic RTS games
[05:25] <SeaPhor> dmsuperman: Cedega is like Wine,,, only better, for latest games
[05:26] <lindenle> ’╗┐dmsuperman: does not seem to work for me...
[05:26] <gnychis> what packages contains the madwifi modules in ubuntu? I can't determine it... it seems as though linux-restricted-modules contains ath_hal but not ath_pci for example
[05:26] <cwall0868> is xgl compiz worth the time it takes to set it up on 64bit?
[05:26] <dmsuperman> lindenle, I think there's an option for it somewhere. i don't have it open, and I can't open yet until I reboot so I can't look for you
[05:26] <dmsuperman> SeaPhor, _really_
[05:26] <cwall0868> or should i just say f it
[05:27] <dmsuperman> SeaPhor, Is there a compatibility list?
[05:27] <kelvin911> is cedega only for games?
[05:27] <dmsuperman> SeaPhor, I'd LOVE to at least get guitar hero working on ubuntu
[05:27] <kelvin911> what about windows app?
[05:27] <dmsuperman> then I could survive without booting into windows for days at a time
[05:27] <CapaH> cwall0868: Compiz is pretty much worth it period :)
[05:27] <SeaPhor> dmsuperman: ooooooohhhhh yeah,,, 1 sec
[05:27] <cwall0868> can u help me then
[05:27] <kelvin911> is guitar hero for the gays?
[05:27] <dmsuperman> gays?
[05:27] <dmsuperman> ...?
[05:27] <CapaH> dmsuperman: Get virtualbox if wine wont do it
[05:28] <kelvin911> did u watch southpark?
[05:28] <LiMaO> Pre-Order Supreme Commander 360 - We're thrilled to announce that Supreme Commander for the Xbox 360 is now available for pre-order.
[05:28] <SeaPhor> dmsuperman: http://games.cedega.com/gamesdb/
[05:28] <CapaH> cwall0868: Even if you have a 64 bit proc, install 32 bit Ubuntu -- and Compiz is enabled anyways out of the box
[05:28] <LiMaO> dmsuperman Ō×Ī good news at their site ;) it's a pity you're not into consoles heh
[05:28] <Pelo> g'night folks
[05:28] <kelvin911> how does virtual box work?
[05:28] <LiMaO> kelvin911 Ō×Ī very well
[05:28] <cwall0868> thats all i needed to know
[05:28] <kelvin911> can i install winxp?
[05:28] <cwall0868> thankx
[05:28] <CapaH> It allows you to create a virtual machine to run multiple OS simultaneously
[05:28] <LiMaO> kelvin911 Ō×Ī sure you can
[05:28] <ddif> cool
[05:28] <kelvin911> or can i just use the one already installed in c:\?
[05:28] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, it couldn't ever possibly measure up, the sheer automation and management skills require a keyboard
[05:28] <dmsuperman> HOLY CRAP
[05:29] <SeaPhor> dmsuperman: PM me if you want mor info
[05:29] <dmsuperman> SeaPhor, I love you, that list has Supreme Commander
[05:29] <dmsuperman> AND forged alliance
[05:29] <dmsuperman> sadly, no guitar hero
[05:29] <kelvin911> LiMaO: can i run everything in virtual box if i have xp installed there?
[05:29] <CapaH> you can but it would make no sense
[05:29] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, everything but games
[05:29] <CapaH> just run the stuff that you are forced to
[05:30] <LiMaO> kelvin911 Ō×Ī well, virtualbox will not be able to run 3d games inside your xp installation
[05:30] <cwall0868> so why bother offering 64bit? you dont need to get to indepth
[05:30] <CapaH> LiMaO: Hmm are you sure?  I have heard otherwise
[05:30] <kelvin911> then there is no point installing it then
[05:30] <dmsuperman> no
[05:30] <kelvin911> the only thing xp is there for me is game
[05:30] <dmsuperman> it definitely won't, CapaH
[05:30] <CapaH> kelvin911: What games?
[05:30] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, then there's really no point
[05:30] <CapaH> eh do a dual boot then
[05:30] <kelvin911> winning eleven, PES4
[05:31] <kelvin911> doom3, quake4
[05:31] <LiMaO> kelvin911 Ō×Ī as i said a few minutes ago, get a playstation 2 and an xbox 360. avoid the ps3. you will be much happier
[05:31] <kelvin911> nfs
[05:31] <dmsuperman> alright, don't want to be a total hypocrite but we should probably get back onto topic
[05:31] <CapaH> doom3/quake4 will work I am quite sure in Wine -- check the list
[05:31] <jwoah12> I just edited some values in xorg.conf, how  do I reboot Xwin so I can see the changes, without rebooting the whole OS?
[05:31] <kelvin911> no money
[05:31] <Robinson> what is the difference between sleep and hibernate ??
[05:31] <dmsuperman> then again I really have no say in the matter, just sayin is all
[05:31] <LiMaO> kelvin911 Ō×Ī doom 3 has a native linux version
[05:31] <dmsuperman> jwoah12, Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[05:31] <kernfreak> LiMa0, whay not ps3.I love it
[05:31] <dmsuperman> jwoah12, and if that doesn't show the changes, then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[05:31] <calc> Robinson: sleep just puts the system into temporary low power mode, hibernate writes memory to disk and turns off entirely
[05:31] <kelvin911> i have doom3 and quake4 but the cdkey i got doesnt work in linux
[05:32] <jwoah12> thanks
[05:32] <suprie> hi
[05:32] <gidean> not working...cant getinto modem
[05:32] <calc> Robinson: sleep more or less turns off everything but memory (and maybe a few other things)
[05:32] <LiMaO> kernfreak Ō×Ī not too many titles, slow in sports games. that's what i've heard... never played any title on it myself.
[05:32] <Robinson> calc: does sleep shutdown fans and hard drive and only leave RAM and CPU ?
[05:32] <kernfreak> NOT TRUE
[05:32] <kelvin911> i installed rtcw with wine its awesome
[05:32] <kernfreak> srry bout the caps
[05:32] <genii> gidean: Is it some usb dsl/cable modem?
[05:32] <calc> Robinson: i think sleep even turns off the cpu, or at least puts it in a very low power mode, yea
[05:32] <Danish989> can anyone tell me how to uninstall ubuntu?
[05:32] <kernfreak> I even have Ubuntu on my ps3
[05:32] <kernfreak> lol
[05:32] <gidean> dsl modem
[05:32] <calc> Robinson: with hibernate the system is completely off, you can remove the battery, etc
[05:33] <DBautell> Danish989, install something else over it
[05:33] <Danish989> I wanted to try installing ubuntu on my ps3
[05:33] <ddif> Danish989, hahahah,why
[05:33] <Danish989> but first i wanted to check on my pc, and now look what happened
[05:33] <Robinson> calc:  okay cool thanks... do you have any idea if it watched network packets while in sleep ?
[05:33] <kelvin911> how does ubuntu running in ps3?
[05:33] <genii> gidean: OK, dsl but is it connected to computer by usb/ethernet/wireless/other?
[05:33] <patrickva> Who gave me that ubuntu alternative iso link before?
[05:33] <kelvin911> is it good?
[05:33] <patrickva> I lost the link
[05:33] <patrickva> Anyone?
[05:33] <Danish989> I don't even see the OS choice menu and GRUB gets Error 22 each time it tries to load
[05:33] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, is cedega in the repos?
[05:33] <calc> Robinson: i think you can set your system to do so, depending on the bios
[05:33] <Danish989> Grub Loading Stage 1.5 .. Error 22
[05:33] <gidean> etherneat
[05:33] <|LiMaO|> dmsuperman Ō×Ī no, not cedega.. just wine
[05:33] <lindenle> dmsuperman: Suppose there is no way to integrate it with kicker...i.e. for task switcher...
[05:33] <dmsuperman> |LiMaO|, oh
[05:33] <Robinson> calc: hum I guess you're reffering to Wake on Lan
[05:33] <SeaPhor> dmsuperman: no not in repos
[05:34] <|LiMaO|> damn, ctrl+alt+backspace killed my actual x, not the virtualbox one
[05:34] <kernfreak> you can install another os on ps3 kelvin911
[05:34] <dmsuperman> lindenle, highly doubt it, but seamless has only been included in the latest release
[05:34] <patrickva> Who gave me that ubuntu alternative iso link before?
[05:34] <patrickva> I need the link again
[05:34] <Danish989> patrickva, why dont you just download via Torrents?
[05:34] <Cpudan80> |LiMaO|: Thats what it's supposed to do?
[05:34] <Robinson> calc: which my old system would't dream of having ...but it would be cool if it watched network packets, it would be the next best thing to Wake-on-Lan
[05:34] <dmsuperman> lindenle, i'm sure those types of things will be added in later versions
[05:34] <genii> gidean: OK. Does it have a web interface?
[05:34] <calc> Robinson: sorta, its probably the same overall, wake on lan can also turn on a completely 'off' system, as long as the nic has power
[05:34] <kelvin911> why do u wanna install linux in ps3?
[05:34] <dmsuperman> |LiMaO|, heh, what did you expect?
[05:34] <Danish989> that's how I downloaded it, patricckva, using torrents it was a lot faster
[05:34] <ddif> what is ps3
[05:34] <tr-33> how can i identify myself on this irc network?
[05:34] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, because that's what linux geeks do
[05:35] <gidean> like this: my father moved...when he hooked up his modem it worked (7.10) but the net was cut off eventually...he called, it was reinstated but now it wont work...modem is on (green lights) but the box won't connect to the net
[05:35] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, nobody knows why, it's a phenomena
[05:35] <Danish989> ddif : Ps3 is Playstation 3
[05:35] <calc> kelvin911: its a cheap computer for tv
[05:35] <|LiMaO|> dmsuperman Ō×Ī i was so immersed on the virtualbox that i forgot of the actual system running it lol
[05:35] <Starnestommy> !register | tr-33
[05:35] <ubotu> tr-33: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type ┬½ /nick <nickname> ┬╗ to select your nickname.
[05:35] <lindenle> dmsuperman: Stupid netflix !!!!!
[05:35] <tr-33> !register
[05:35] <patrickva> Well do you have the torrent file?
[05:35] <gidean> not sure I'm afraid....att modem
[05:35] <lindenle> dmsuperman: i hate windows
[05:35]  * calc is actually going to install linux on ps3 when i get some spare time as well
[05:35] <dmsuperman> lindenle, why?
[05:35] <ddif> tr-33, /msg nickserv identify **
[05:35] <cwall0868> ok sorry 1 more thing then im leaving..... anyone running moblock? does it do what it says it does? or is it garbage?
[05:35] <dmsuperman> lindenle, why at netflix, obviously why for hating windows hah
[05:35] <kelvin911> how big is the hd in ps3?
[05:35] <tr-33> ddif, thanks.
[05:35] <kernfreak> mine is 60gb
[05:35] <|LiMaO|> kelvin911 Ō×Ī there are different versions of it
[05:35] <Danish989> can anyone tell me what to do? Grub keeps getting Error 22 while it tries to load stage 1.5 and I can't even get into windows xp
[05:35] <calc> kelvin911: 40/60/80 depending on model
[05:35] <lindenle> dmsuperman: Cuz i need windows to watch the instant stuff
[05:35] <patrickva> Danish989 do you have the torrent file?
[05:36] <kelvin911> how much is ps3?
[05:36] <kernfreak> you can put any sata in it
[05:36] <dmsuperman> lindenle, yup, i have to as well
[05:36] <calc> kelvin911: ubuntu takes ~ 2gb so plenty of space
[05:36] <kelvin911> $300?
[05:36] <calc> kelvin911: $400 same as a low end bluray player
[05:36] <lindenle> dmsuperman: them and mlb.com
[05:36] <dmsuperman> lindenle, you could always try running ies4linux, does that play netflix?
[05:36] <genii> gidean: OK. Because if it's in "bridged" mode then you need the pppoeconf to make computer do the auth. If it's in "router" mode then you need to go into it's web interface and have it do the auth
[05:36] <lindenle> ’╗┐dmsuperman: no idea
[05:36] <kelvin911> can u get the 3d desktop on ps3 too?
[05:36] <dmsuperman> |LiMaO|, aw, cedega costs money :'(
[05:36] <calc> kelvin911: no idea
[05:36] <genii> gidean: For the web interface modem and computer need IPs that can talk to each other
[05:36] <lindenle> ’╗┐dmsuperman: but this is pretty slick too
[05:36] <gidean> genii: thanks so much...
[05:37] <SeaPhor> cedega costs $5 a month
[05:37] <dmsuperman> lindenle, yeh
[05:37]  * calc wants to use firefox from his 61" 1080P tv
[05:37] <gidean> Its a 2wire modem....gonna google for the ip
[05:37] <kelvin911> cedega is not free?
[05:37] <patrickva> nvm i got it
[05:37] <Peddy> can anyone please tell me where the image file for the Volume icon that pops up when I hit the keyboard volume button is?
[05:37] <SeaPhor> cedega costs $5 a month
[05:37] <gidean> and thank you nickrud
[05:37] <Danish989> can anyone help me? Grub doesnt load, it goes into an error .. can anyone tell me what command to put in the terminal so the windows xp loader loads instead of grub and i can get into windows?
[05:37] <kelvin911> is cedega somthing like wine?
[05:37] <|LiMaO|> dmsuperman Ō×Ī you may not need cedega. wine may be enough to satisfy your gaming needs
[05:37] <Robinson> thanks anyways calc ! :)
[05:37] <gidean> still havn't solved but I REALLY appreciate the help
[05:38] <kelvin911> how can they charge u money once u installed?
[05:38] <dmsuperman> Danish989, from windows recovery console, type "fixboot" and "fixmbr" and that'll restore windows bootloader
[05:38] <ddif> Peddy, /usr/share/app?not sure?
[05:38] <timsandtoms> Is there a way to automatically remove a phrase from the filenames of a big group of files?
[05:38] <SperMite> I was wondering. I just ordered a new harddrive, a 250gb seagate. should i give /home its own partition ?
[05:38] <ddif> !icon
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <Danish989> dmsuperman, cant I use some command in the terminal? how do I get into the windows recovery console, anyway?
[05:38] <dmsuperman> |LiMaO|, I highly doubt it for a big complicated game like SupCom. I've run into little bugs with simple apps like notepad++
[05:38] <calc> kelvin911: updates
[05:38] <Peddy> ddif: that directory does not exist :O
[05:38] <DBautell> SperMite, yes
[05:38] <calc> kelvin911: cedega is the kind of program where you want the updates
[05:38] <dmsuperman> Danish989, terminal is for ubuntu, there's no way to install the windows bootloader with ubuntu :s
[05:38] <Danish989> isn't there someway I can just make ubuntu go away, and make Grub go away?
[05:39] <kelvin911> why calc?
[05:39] <Danish989> and go back to using Windows xp?
[05:39] <cpk1> dmsuperman: have you looked up the game you want to play on winehq?
[05:39] <SeaPhor> cedega costs $5 a month by your choice after the initial first $5, i still pay because i like the product and the support i get and the DB updates
[05:39] <kelvin911> it will expire?
[05:39] <calc> kelvin911: i'm pretty sure you can get most of cedega for free just not the parts that are licensed from eg macrovision, etc
[05:39] <ddif> Peddy, then it is /usr/share/application/,not sure,go and see
[05:39] <Peddy> ddif: oh, sorry. Browsing ;)
[05:39] <calc> kelvin911: they update it to work with newer games, to work better with older games, etc
[05:39] <dmsuperman> cpk1, no, not yet. i've got a bad taste in my mouth for wine since trying to run simple apps like uTorrent (which was designed specifically for wine, btw) and notepad++
[05:39] <cpk1> I dont like to use cedega on principle
[05:40] <kelvin911> ok
[05:40] <dmsuperman> cpk1, so i've just been running a seamless vbox
[05:40] <calc> kelvin911: ask SeaPhor for details, i don't play games, i just know about what they do
[05:40] <kelvin911> i guess $5 a month isnt that bad
[05:40] <cpk1> doesnt wine come with notepad?
[05:40] <Danish989> dmsuperman, if I just format the ubuntu partition, will that remove ubuntu?
[05:40] <Technoviking> Danish989: search for the fixmbr on google
[05:40] <LiMaO> dmsuperman Ō×Ī how long have you been away of wine?! i use undercoverxp, photoshop, dvdshrink and some other windows apps just fine with cedega... never had a single problem with it
[05:40] <kelvin911> big mac crappy meal cost more than $5
[05:40] <genii> Danish989: You get into windows recovery console by booting the windows cdrom and choosing to boot into the windows recovery console. From there is where you isue the commands like fixboot or fixmbr or so on, I'm sure they can assist far more with this in ##windows channel
[05:40] <calc> kelvin911: its the price of a coke in london ;-)
[05:40] <goldsniper> how to connect to a 'B' only wifi access point?
[05:40] <c0Ld> 'w' reports that I have 6 bash terminals running when I only have one + X (2), is that normal? =/
[05:40] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, for you, maybe, but $5 a month to play games i already own and could just reboot into windows to play isn't cool for me
[05:40] <kelvin911> 5 bucks for a coke?
[05:40] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, 3 days ago
[05:40] <Jordan_U> cpk1, notepad++ is an open source programmers text editor
[05:40] <calc> and as i found out today its cheaper than the cost of 12oz coke in Prague airport
[05:40] <dmsuperman> Danish989, sure
[05:40] <calc> kelvin911: ~ $4 from what i recall
[05:41] <CorbinFox> calc: so ┬Ż1.50, or about $918.72 :P
[05:41] <genii> Danish989: If you format the ubuntu partition the boot manager will not be affected
[05:41] <phuzion> The taskbar at the top right corner of my screen has remnants of an icon from wine that I had open earlier.  Is there a way to restart the taskbar or something so it cleans up?
[05:41] <Danish989> genii: so that means my computer will still continue to try to boot Grub?
[05:41] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, neither app would run properly 3 days ago, so i've just got my seamless vbox. i like it more anyway, wine (even with a good skin) makes the windows look so terribly ugly and hard to read :P
[05:41] <calc> CorbinFox: iirc the cokes when i was there were ~  ┬Ż2 each
[05:41] <genii> Danish989: Yes
[05:41] <kelvin911> how does grub work?
[05:41] <goldsniper> my intel 3945ABG can connect to G wifi router but cannot connect to 'B' access point wifi
[05:41] <dmsuperman> Danish989, like i said, windows recovery console, "fixboot" "fixmbr"
[05:41] <genii> Danish989: The fix has been exlained to you
[05:41] <kelvin911> is it in the c:\ ?
[05:41] <CorbinFox> price when up since i went there a few summers ago then :P
[05:41] <dmsuperman> !grub | kelvin911
[05:41] <ubotu> kelvin911: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:41] <calc> and they wanted 60 Cz per coke in the prague airport this morning
[05:42] <elphias> how do i get 32 bit apps to work in 64bit ubuntu?
[05:42]  * calc is back in houston now, where cokes are cheap and free refills... are free ;-)
[05:42] <Jordan_U> genii, Danish989 If you are using grub and you remove your Ubuntu partition grub will no longer work, even to boot another OS
[05:42] <DBautell> elphias, multilib
[05:42] <kelvin911> what if for some reason grub is gone, how to fix it?
[05:42] <LiMaO> dmsuperman Ō×Ī i think you have a problem i used to have a long time ago.. when fonts and windows were ugly as hell within wine apps...
[05:42] <elphias> DBautell: what is the command for that or just search synaptic?
[05:42] <DBautell> elphias, one second
[05:42] <genii> Jordan_U: Actually, yes if he used / for /boot that is correct
[05:42] <kelvin911> like if i can only boot in winxp how to fix the boot so i can choose the bootup screen again?
[05:42] <SeaPhor> calc: im in rosenberg!
[05:43] <Jordan_U> genii, That is the default configuration in Ubuntu
[05:43] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, yeah, but that's only a minor problem. the main problem was that uTorrent, designed for use in Wine, wouldn't even work well, so I'm just avoiding it
[05:43] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, I've found plenty of good alternatives anyway
[05:43] <calc> SeaPhor: ah cool, i'm near willowbrook
[05:43] <goldsniper> anyone? any ideas why i can connect to 'G' wifi AP but can not to 'B' wifi AP?
[05:43] <jwoah12> So I only made changes to the touchpad section of xorg.conf, and then did ctrl alt backspace, and not its running in low graphics mode and can't detect my display
[05:43] <LiMaO> dmsuperman Ō×Ī dude, uTorrent works perfectly in here.. better than Transmission
[05:43] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, KTorrent is a decent alternative to uTorrent, and Kate is an even better alternative to Notepad++
[05:43] <Peddy> ddif: not there, any other suggestions?
[05:43] <Jordan_U> !grub | kelvin911
[05:43] <ubotu> kelvin911: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:43] <calc> i was in Prague for the GoOOCon meeting
[05:43] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, no clue why I don't then :s
[05:43] <DBautell> elphias, looks like apt-get multilib, but it's been a while since I set mine up
[05:43] <Danish989> jordan_u so I will be stuck without an operating system booting?
[05:43] <SeaPhor> calc: no idea, lol- just moved here
[05:44] <DBautell> er
[05:44] <calc> SeaPhor: do you know where I-45 and FM1960 is?
[05:44] <DBautell> gcc-multilib?
[05:44] <LiMaO> dmsuperman Ō×Ī let me show you a screenshot, just a second
[05:44] <genii> Danish989: To replace the grub boot manager, it needs to be overwritten with a new Windows one. This is done as previously explained by booting to Windows CD, selecting Recovery Console and then issuing the commands fixboot and fixmbr.
[05:44] <Jordan_U> Danish989, If you do not make another /boot partition or install another bootloader, yes
[05:44] <calc> SeaPhor: north of downtown
[05:44] <kelvin911> when u do sudo grub in liveCd whats the password?
[05:44] <SeaPhor> calc: yep i work at HP
[05:44] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, it's not looks. a lot of buttons are unresponsive until i click twice
[05:44] <Jordan_U> kelvin911, It shouldn't ask for a password
[05:44] <elphias> nope v.v
[05:44] <Danish989> ok so do I first fix the boot problem or format the partition?
[05:44] <calc> SeaPhor: ah i used to work for HP, so i probably live about 5mi from where you work
[05:44] <genii> kelvin911: There isn't one
[05:45] <calc> SeaPhor: if you work off of SH249
[05:45] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, I'll take a look though, where's the compatability list for wine? I'm not seeing it right on the front of the site
[05:45] <elphias> goggleng the issue i came acrost something that requires your to force
[05:45] <Jordan_U> Danish989, What problem are you having exactly?
[05:45] <kelvin911> hey i have a question is it good idea to have root password and my normal user password the same?
[05:45] <elphias> that dosen't sound right to me...why should you have to -force something to work? o.o
[05:45] <SeaPhor> calc: yep just before louetta
[05:45] <Danish989> when I start my computer, Grub starts loading stage 1.5 and then it gets an Error 22
[05:45] <elphias> there has to be a way to get 32bit apps to work in 64bit ubuntu
[05:45] <Danish989> and after that , nothing happens at all ..
[05:45] <Jordan_U> kelvin911, You should not have a root password, just use sudo
[05:45] <calc> SeaPhor: i worked there until ~ june 2007 when i started working for Canonical
[05:45] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, you don't really have a root password
[05:45] <kelvin911> i mean in ubuntu now liveCD
[05:45] <calc> SeaPhor: looks like a really long drive from rosenberg though
[05:45] <kelvin911> not
[05:46] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, same thing
[05:46] <SeaPhor> calc: any chance you're hiring?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> !root | kelvin911
[05:46] <LiMaO> dmsuperman Ō×Ī http://appdb.winehq.org/
[05:46] <ubotu> kelvin911: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[05:46] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, still, just use sudo, and you don't ever really need root
[05:46] <calc> SeaPhor: they always are :) http://www.ubuntu.com/employment
[05:46] <kelvin911> i think i did set a password for root
[05:46] <calc> SeaPhor: most positions are work from home
[05:46] <SeaPhor> calc: yes, it is for the lousy amount that the recruiter is paying
[05:46] <kelvin911> for some reason i set a password for root
[05:47] <DBautell> elphias, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins#head-80c70f72e09f16a22241fdfa70c2cb373ee48d70
[05:47] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, yeh, none of the games I want are suppored by wine
[05:47] <DBautell> it ia32-libs and such
[05:47] <timsandtoms> Is there a way to automatically remove a phrase from the filenames of a big group of files? Say, getting rid of the D20 from the beginning my .pdfs in my D&D folder?
[05:47] <Danish989> jordan_u do I format the ubuntu partition first or fix the booting problem?
[05:48] <AliRezaTaleghani> hello,  i have assined an alias , on my NIC, but the "Firestarter" don't detect it!  what should i do
[05:48] <dmsuperman> ah, nvm
[05:48] <dmsuperman> it has supcom
[05:48] <trollboy> I'm mounting a share as ssh:// in nautilus, is there any media players that can see that?
[05:48] <dmsuperman> WOOOOOOOOT
[05:48] <trollboy> Exaile doesn't see it
[05:48] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, it has guitar hero, not even cedega has that :D
[05:48]  * gkg like siftin.com
[05:48] <DBautell> I'm probably remembering multilib from when I had time for gentoo
[05:48] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> assigned an alias to your nic? how?
[05:49] <LiMaO> dmsuperman Ō×Ī http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/1561/screenshotxs0.png
[05:49] <Danish989> dmsuperman, a little help please? do I format the ubuntu partition first or fix the booting problem?
[05:49] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, nevermind, everybody is saying it doesn't work
[05:49] <dmsuperman> Danish989, format, then fix
[05:49] <kelvin911> anyone heard of E/OS?
[05:50] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, yeah, like i said it's a problem with responsiveness of the interface
[05:50] <LiMaO> dmsuperman Ō×Ī what version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:50] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: as a second IP adress! yep it is possible  "sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.1.11 up"
[05:50] <jwoah12> Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode and can't detect my display correctly, how can I fix this?
[05:50] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, gutsy
[05:50] <suprie> jwoah12, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:51] <ddif> !drxx
[05:51] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type ┬½ sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart ┬╗ in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:51] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> and what is the problem?
[05:51] <jmpespxoreax> this is an mdadm question - I absentmindedly tried to execute 'mkfs.ext2' while the array was building, but quickly terminated mkfs when it started to write the inode tables. am I screwed? should I overwrite the hard drives with zeros and try mdadm --create again?
[05:51] <brunotorres> Hi all, I've installed the ATI drivers on my gutsy installation. I use two monitors, one 19in wide and the other is 17, both LCD. The first one is 1440x900 and the other is 1280x1024. They're working fine, except for I can't initialize compiz. Could anyone help me with this?
[05:51] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, yeah, none of the games are really playable. the games i usually play are barely even playable in windows as it is, haha
[05:51] <ezack402> sup
[05:52] <DBautell> cute_bettong, did you catch that link?
[05:52] <kelvin911> dmsuperman: what games are they?
[05:52] <kelvin911> old dos games?
[05:52] <amenado> jmpespxoreax-> seems to make sense, restart over
[05:52] <sudobash> is there a way to mount fatx partitions in ubuntu 7.10... I will have to upgrade the mount binary correct?
[05:52] <kernfreak> brunotorres , install xgl
[05:52] <cute_bettong> dbautell yes i did thank you
[05:52] <cute_bettong> ^_^
[05:52] <kelvin911> i wonder if i can play rollercoaster in ubuntu with wine
[05:52] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: now, i want to share internet, on that , but the firestater don't show it,   i can use iptable , but want run it with firestater!   ((i did it one time before))
[05:52] <DBautell> no problem
[05:52] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, haha, no. Guitar Hero III, Supreme Commander, Crysis, and Assassin's Creed
[05:52] <LiMaO> dmsuperman Ō×Ī lol.. guess you'll have to live with windows for a while then =P
[05:52] <jmpespxoreax> amenado: ok thanks
[05:52] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, like I said, it's really no big deal to dual boot.
[05:53] <kelvin911> dmsuperman: never heard of those games
[05:53] <kernfreak> brunotorres , install xgl, and compiz manager, and it should work
[05:53] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, _really_?
[05:53] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> what is the ip address of the parent interface?
[05:53] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, they're all very popular games
[05:53] <brunotorres> xserver-xgl? (sorry if it's a stupid question)
[05:53] <kernfreak> yes
[05:53] <AliRezaTaleghani> 85.198.48.XX
[05:53] <kelvin911> i am still playing et regularly
[05:53] <brunotorres> ok, i'm gonna try
[05:53] <AliRezaTaleghani> i now they are not in the same rang!
[05:53] <brunotorres> thanks
[05:54] <LiMaO> dmsuperman Ō×Ī do you have the guitar?
[05:54] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> and the alias ip address?
[05:54] <AliRezaTaleghani> ’╗┐amenado: ’╗┐85.198.48.XX ’╗┐i now they are not in the same rang!
[05:54] <Calico> anyone have a solution for the HDC drive not ready for command error I'm getting when I try to boot the live cd?
[05:54] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: 192.168.1.1
[05:54] <sudobash> how do you add filetypes to mount?
[05:54] <sudobash> like fatx
[05:54] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, of course ;)
[05:54] <kindofabuzz> sudobash, man mount
[05:55] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> can you paste your  sudo iptables -n -vL ?
[05:55] <kelvin911> anyone plays winning eleven here?
[05:55] <kelvin911> or pro evolution soccer thats how they call it in europe
[05:56] <LiMaO> dmsuperman Ō×Ī i've tried that game on the ps2 once.. no guitar, on the gamepad.. and it was just impossible.. but i have dance dance revolution supernova 2 and two dancing mats.. my wife and i really enjoy jumping on that thing
[05:56] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63142/
[05:57] <kelvin911> still playing dancing game?
[05:57] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: it dose not have any rule, cos firestarter dosn't detect my alias now!
[05:57] <kelvin911> that was like 10 years ago
[05:57] <LiMaO> kelvin911 Ō×Ī it's still lots of fun =D
[05:57] <sudobash> kindofabuzz fatx is not a standard fs.... ubuntu mount doesnt support it is there a way to change that?
[05:57] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, meh, it's no where near as fun on the controller. the guitar is _so_ much fun though. Until I removed windows, I played at least once a day
[05:58] <Calico> no love on my error question?
[05:58] <kongove> What?
[05:58] <Calico> HDC drive not ready for command
[05:58] <LiMaO> kelvin911 Ō×Ī i just didn't buy an xbox 360 yet because i couldn't find dance mats for it
[05:59] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> what do want done? share the connection? what ip address domain will your client sharing this will have?
[05:59] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, sweet, Frets on Fire is for Linux
[05:59] <dmsuperman> LiMaO, it's a freeware alternative to guitar hero :D
[05:59] <shadow420> I found this grub4dos how good is this
[05:59] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: they will be in the range of 192.168.1.X
[06:00] <LiMaO> dmsuperman Ō×Ī you see.. i can bet you'll leave that dual boot thing in a while ;)
[06:00] <LiMaO> brb
[06:00] <spelling> everyone leave ubuntu for fedora. it is the shit. excuse me but how do i install mp3 support in fedora and amarok? thank you
[06:00] <DBautell> wow
[06:00] <kelvin911> is fedora good?
[06:01] <Calico> Well, atleast fedora installs...
[06:01] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> okay,  cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward  and let me know the result
[06:01] <spelling> kelvin911 trust me it is easy and best
[06:01] <dmsuperman> it's always been good
[06:01] <dmsuperman> but it's a bit harder to manage
[06:01] <kelvin911> which distro has the most users?
[06:01] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: it is equal to 1
[06:01] <kelvin911> i wonder
[06:01] <genii> kelvin911: According to distrowatch it's this distribution
[06:01] <dmsuperman> ubuntu
[06:02] <nickrud> distro wars are totally offtopic ;)
[06:02] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> do you have a client now? can they ping your 192.168.1.1
[06:02] <genii> nickrud: Yes I agree
[06:02] <dmsuperman> nickrud, we haven't been ontopic for about an hour
[06:02] <dmsuperman> :P
[06:02] <Odd-rationale> kelvin911: checking the number of people in respective channels (#ubuntu and #fedora) will give you a slight idea...
[06:02] <nickrud> dmsuperman you sorta tried, once ;p
[06:02] <newbieuu> Hey, i installed nVidia drivers , now when i try to change the "visual effects" custom , i get the error message "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[06:02] <dmsuperman> nickrud, i know, but suddenly nobody could hear me when i said we should get on topic haha
[06:03] <kelvin911> fedora is seocnd most popular?
[06:03] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: yep, i am useing it, not just ping , :)  but SSH samba filehsare , all them are Okey
[06:03] <kelvin911> what about red hat, mandrake?
[06:03] <Odd-rationale> It is all about choice.
[06:03] <kelvin911> suse?
[06:03] <kelvin911> are they dead?
[06:03] <rockysynerg1> Right now on my laptop, I installed ubuntu 7.10. Because my bank only support Windows IE. I do not want to install Ubuntu again, Is that doable I install IE as the secondary OS?
[06:03] <dmsuperman> Odd-rationale, exactly right
[06:03] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, none of them are dead
[06:03] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, it's not a battle like windows
[06:03] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> whats the content of  /etc/resolv.conf of those client?
[06:03] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, if you make a distro that even a single person likes, you've succeeded
[06:03] <goldsnipe1> why im signed out just now?
[06:03] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, it's about customizing to your own likes, rather than following the crowd
[06:04] <brunotorres> kernfreak, I installed both xgl and compiz manager and now compiz works, but on the second monitor I have just a blank screen. I can see the mouse pointer on it if I move it there, but nothing else
[06:04] <nickrud> rockysynerg1 not sure what you're asking, you want to keep ubuntu and install windows again?
[06:04] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: i use OpenDNS (207.67.222.222)
[06:04] <Odd-rationale> kelvin911: my suggestion is to try a distro that seems to interest you. You will learn a lot. Decide for yourself. don't just listen to anyone who says that one distro is the best
[06:04] <dmsuperman> brunotorres, can you move windows over there? perhaps you just have a black wallpaper
[06:04] <brunotorres> I also don't have two monitors on system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[06:04] <Odd-rationale> kelvin911: hint: virtualbox helps too...
[06:04] <rockysynerg1> nickrud: you are right.
[06:04] <kelvin911> i try mandrake 3 years ago, didnt like it
[06:04] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> the client can ping that address 207.67.222.222 ?
[06:04] <kelvin911> now i try ubuntu, wow its so nice
[06:05] <newbieuu> can someone please help me ?
[06:05] <kelvin911> maybe i am lazy i dont wanna type so many commands and ubuntu is for dummy like me
[06:05] <dmsuperman> kelvin911, yeah...i'll agree there. generally, no distro is "bad" but i _really_ didn't like mandrake/mandriva
[06:05] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: no :) this is the problme
[06:05] <nickrud> rockysynerg1 you can make some space on the drive with gparted , and then install windows there. You'll have to fix grub, see the next link for a howto
[06:05] <suprie> how to set mode master on atheros based chipset
[06:05] <brunotorres> dmsuperman no. If i move a window to the right it appears just at the left on the same monitor
[06:05] <nickrud> !grub | rockysynerg1
[06:05] <ubotu> rockysynerg1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:05] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> now can you paste the result of  route -n   of this client?
[06:05] <kelvin911> anyone try E/OS?
[06:06] <kelvin911> it said it can run any system apps on it.
[06:06] <brunotorres> i didn't change anything on xorg.conf
[06:06] <nickrud> !ask | newbieuu
[06:06] <ubotu> newbieuu: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:06] <dmsuperman> you guys have kept me from finishing my work for hours now, i'm leaving you :P
[06:06] <Calico> I like Gentoo's package management, like to try Ubuntu, but apparently it hates my computer
[06:06] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: 1 minute :) yep
[06:06] <genii> suprie: man iwconfig
[06:06] <suprie> yes
[06:06] <brunotorres> should I?
[06:06] <suprie> like this ? sudo iwconfig ath0 mode master
[06:07] <suprie> it said, invalid argument
[06:07] <suprie> :d
[06:07] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63143/
[06:07] <nickrud> newbieuu if you've already asked and not got an answer, repeat the complete question about every 4-5 minutes, someone will probably come in that knows the answer
[06:07] <goldsnipe1> anyone, please help, i need to connect to wifi access point. I can connect at home... a ' G' wifi router, but can't connect to 'B' wifi router
[06:07] <dmsuperman[afk]> stupid nick length limit
[06:07] <kelvin911> hello?  i guess no one knows E/OS here?
[06:07] <dmsuperman[afk]> !patience | kelvin911
[06:07] <ubotu> kelvin911: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:08] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> well for one, if the clients are going to use your eth0:0  then their gateway must be 192.168.1.1 not 192.168.1.2
[06:08] <newbieuu> , i installed nVidia drivers , now when i try to change the "visual effects" custom , i get the error message "desktop effects could not be enabled" . before i was getting all the effects except the cube
[06:08] <Steelemax> I always hated weddings because all the grandmas would always poke me and say "You're next". They stopped when I started doing it to them at funerals.
[06:09] <rockysynerg1> nickrud & ubotu: Thank you for your help!
[06:09] <Steelemax> that was random
[06:09] <Steelemax> penis kissing a butterfly with bitchtits
[06:09] <brunotorres> the cursor I see on the second monitor is that one that looks like an X, as if there's no window manager running
[06:09] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: :) yep, sorry cos, it was my wrong at first reply,   1.1 is my DSL modem, whith is now just a bridge,  1.2 is the NAT server i have :)
[06:09] <nickrud> !language | Steelemax
[06:09] <ubotu> Steelemax: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:09] <bazhang_> Steelemax: please stop
[06:10] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> can you translate that to real address, i dont want to guess wrong info
[06:10] <Calico> Any attempts to boot Ubuntu installation media, result in a soft lock, the message "HDC drive not ready for command" being spammed at me, and a drop into a very basic shell, any help or suggestions would be lovely
[06:11] <goldsnipe1> anyone, please help, i need to connect to wifi access point. I can connect at home... a ' G' wifi router, but can't connect to 'B' wifi router
[06:11] <evilbug> would there be any side-effect if i try to install the newest graphics driver for my geforce 4 mx?
[06:11] <bazhang_> Calico: this is all media? the live cd, alternate cd, minimal cd, wubi, unetbootin etc
[06:11] <goldsnipe1> im using network manager
[06:11] <nickrud> Calico boot the disk, hit F6 and try some of those kernel options it lists, start with all_ide_generic (or the one similar)
[06:11] <dmsuperman[afk]> guys, what's the default permissions on /usr/share?
[06:12] <Calico> ok, I'll try it, I've tried noprobe, nodma, cdrom, etc for hdc but no dice so far
[06:12] <Steelemax> n0rp
[06:12] <nickrud> dmsuperman[afk]   755 , owned by root:root
[06:12] <dmsuperman[afk]> nickrud, thanks :D
[06:12] <bazhang_> goldsnipe1: is this B an open wifi spot? wep/wpa/wpa2 or what
[06:13] <goldsnipe1> bazhang_ --> yes it is, no wep, so do the G
[06:13] <goldsnipe1> bazhang_ --> open wifi
[06:13] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: OKey?!
[06:13] <bazhang_> goldsnipe1: open up a terminal and try sudo dhclient (interfacenamehere)
[06:14] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> can you translate that to real address, i dont want to guess wrong info..what is the ip addreses?
[06:14] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: i give u my real adress, on PM
[06:14] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: didn't u saw?
[06:14] <kelvin911> what is nautilus?
[06:14] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> i can not accept pm's
[06:14] <evilbug> display manager
[06:15] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: OK, w8
[06:15] <Danish989> dmsuperman, can you tell me one last time how you fixed your problem? because I think we're having the same thing, I need to experiment with different numbers like you did and try that before I completely wipe out ubuntu
[06:15] <bazhang_> kelvin911: file manager
[06:15] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> so nope i have not seen it..just paste it in pastebin
[06:15] <kelvin911> ok
[06:15] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63144/
[06:15] <kelvin911> how to make the new open windows not opening at the bottom of the screen?
[06:15] <brunotorres> well, it seems pretty difficult. I didn't find an answer for that anywhere
[06:16] <bazhang_> kelvin911: this is using compiz?
[06:16] <kelvin911> because i am running awn dock, sometimes the OK, Canel button is block by the dock
[06:16] <Steelemax> test
[06:16] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> and the  ’╗┐85.198.48.x is on eth0  ?
[06:16] <bazhang_> Steelemax: please take it elsewhere thanks
[06:16] <kelvin911> yes i am using compiz
[06:16] <kelvin911> and awn'
[06:16] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: yep
[06:16] <Steelemax> bazhang, what did i do
[06:16] <bazhang_> kelvin911: there should be a setting for that in ccsm
[06:17] <Steelemax> i said "test"
[06:17] <kelvin911> where?
[06:17] <bazhang_> !ot | Steelemax
[06:17] <ubotu> Steelemax: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:17] <kelvin911> whats ccsm?
[06:17] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> try this  sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[06:17] <bazhang_> advanced desktop effects/settings manager kelvin911
[06:17] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> then ping www.yahoo.com from your client
[06:18] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: :D
[06:18] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> result?
[06:18] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: :D :D :D , i don't know, how it get work
[06:18] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: :-*
[06:19] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> responding?
[06:19] <AliRezaTaleghani> this is the last job i did,   yep let me say
[06:19] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado:         name Ethernet alias LAN card
[06:20] <kelvin911> bazhang: i cant find it
[06:20] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> come again? what does that mean?
[06:20] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado:this is the last thing i add to my interface config, and restart network, :)
[06:20] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: i mean, is this line important on "/etc/network/interfaces"  cos i dodn't use it befor!
[06:21] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> i still did not get a confirmation, you were able to ping www.yahoo.com from client?
[06:21] <bazhang> kelvin911: advanced desktop effects settings? should be in your menu there--poke around a bit, unless you do not have it installed that is
[06:21] <gidean> ppoe problem....modem was set to pppoa
[06:21] <gidean> thanks very very much to all who helped!!!!!!!!!
[06:21] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: yep ,  all are okey, ping ing, and surffing the web :)
[06:22] <bazhang> if not kelvin911 then sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:22] <kelvin911> bazhang: but which one will cahnge that setting?
[06:22] <kelvin911> bazhang: i have compiz installed
[06:22] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: tnx, for ur help  :-*
[06:22] <amenado> AliRezaTaleghani-> okay..you're welcome..
[06:22] <kelvin911> bazhang: but which one will make new open window not stick to the bottom?
[06:22] <bazhang> kelvin911: best bet is to ask in #compiz-fusion
[06:22] <AliRezaTaleghani> amenado: :) tnx
[06:23] <kelvin911> i ask but people there dotn help
[06:24] <fortruth> hi, gays. I meet a problem in synaptic:when i open it with non-su,it can search directly,but when with su, it doesn't work. can any one know how fix it.
[06:25] <Flabob> Hello
[06:25] <bazhang> fortruth: best to use sudo and not su; also apt-cache search in the terminal is more efficient--with gui apps use gksudo as well
[06:25] <gaurdro> fortruth,  synaptic requires root priviledges to install packages.
[06:25] <gaurdro> run it as root
[06:26] <Flabob> I need a little help
[06:26] <fortruth> yes ,i know! to install need root, but in root it can't locate the package when i press key
[06:27] <bazhang> fortruth: what package
[06:27] <nickrud> fortruth    try:   gksu synaptic
[06:27] <fortruth> but in non-root it can locate.!
[06:28] <fortruth> gksu synapic the same to any root synaptic.!
[06:28] <bazhang> fortruth: what package
[06:28] <xpoint> fortruth, /usr/sbin/synaptic
[06:28] <iadu>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY roxana
[06:28] <iadu> pfffffffffffffffffffff
[06:28] <iadu> :)))))
[06:28] <bazhang> iadu: best to leave no space before /
[06:28] <suprie> :))
[06:28] <fortruth> what i means when i press s,  it don't locate at the s***** packages
[06:28]  * nickrud runs to reidentify
[06:29] <meatpuppet> Do I need a special kernel to take advantage of my core 2 duo quad core processor?
[06:29] <jefffromhell> what is the command that opens a gui version of sudo?
[06:29] <Flabob> Oh, nevermind, restarting fixed it
[06:29] <bazhang> meatpuppet: the generic will do
[06:29] <meatpuppet> ok bazhang , thank you
[06:30] <xpoint> iadu, thanks for the password in public :-)
[06:30] <bazhang> fortruth: if you give a sensical answer then folks can help: what package please
[06:30] <nickrud> fortruth you mean, when you don't run as root, when you press 's' it jumps to packages that start with s ? It doesn't do that here in either
[06:31] <bazhang> jefffromhell: I think you mean gksu/gksudo
[06:31] <fortruth> bazhang: any package else! synaptic don't lcoate at root.
[06:31] <jefffromhell> thanks bazhang
[06:31] <bazhang> fortruth: give me an example package
 yes ,that 's  my means.!
[06:32] <jefffromhell> can i put that in front of an applications launch command so that it will ask fro the pass when i launch it?
[06:32] <levander> has arstechnica.com stopped responding for everyone, or just me?
[06:32] <bazhang> jefffromhell: yes for gui apps
[06:32] <jefffromhell> thanks
[06:32] <bazhang> np ;]
[06:32] <levander> can someone check, i've been wondering if i have problems with my local network config
[06:33] <ubutom> levander, its dead for me too
[06:33] <jefffromhell> bazhang, for example gksudo virtualbox is all i need?
[06:33] <levander> ubutom: cool thanks
[06:33] <bazhang> jefffromhell: no need to run virtual box as anything other than user if I recall correctly
[06:33] <bidget> hey can anyone give me a hand with some wine games?
[06:34] <bidget> I've got starcraft installed and Im just wondering how I would run it in a window
[06:34] <levander> ubutom: That happens to me with Ars.  I'll be in the middle of reading something I clicked on a couple of minutes ago.  Then I'll click on another link which won't come up.  About five minutes later Ars starts responding again.  But, apparently it's a server issue and has nothing to do with my machine.
[06:34] <corrosione> so far so good..no crashing or freezes
[06:34] <jefffromhell> bazhang, everytime i try to run it as user, i tells me i dont have acess to the virtual box kernel or something
[06:35] <ubutom> levander, i just pinged it and got no response
[06:35] <robbysmith> i am seeking help with mythtv
[06:35] <bazhang> jefffromhell: then you need to install it I believe
[06:35] <robbysmith> on mythbuntu
[06:35] <bidget> anybody know how to make a wine app run in a window?
[06:35] <bazhang> #ubuntu-mythtv would be the best bet robbysmith
[06:35] <levander> ubutom: Yeah, thanks for checking.  I'm sure it's just the server.  I'm starting to think I'm imagining my network problems and have just been using several servers lately that are having problems.
[06:36] <jefffromhell> bazhang, shouldnt it be installed since i install virtualbox
[06:36] <bidget> anybody know how to make a wine app run in a window?
[06:36] <levander> bidget: That's the normal way wine runs apps.
[06:36] <bazhang> jefffromhell: that would be logical yes, not sure that it is though
[06:36] <bidget> ehhh
[06:36] <bidget> all of the stuff Ive installed runs fullscreen
[06:36] <jefffromhell> i mean, with sudo, it does work
[06:36] <ubutom> levander, I know that problem, the first thing one thinks about is: "aaah, my network is broken again..." ;-)
[06:37] <fortruth> bazhang: sorry, may be i have wrong diecribe. no any package have wrong. just the synaptic doesn't jump the the packages start with which i press
[06:37] <bullgard4> What is the service that provides the GNOME 'Service' System > Administration > Services > (Service Settings) > 'Audio settings management (alsa-utils)'?
[06:37] <bazhang> fortruth: sounds like you want some function that does not exist in synaptic
[06:37] <levander> bidget: I've only done it one time.  But, all I did was "wine install.exe" and then "win appname.exe" and I got the appname program up in a window on my Ubuntu desktop.
[06:37] <bidget> hm
[06:37] <bidget> I see
[06:38] <bidget> I'll see if google has the answer :D
[06:38] <bidget> thanks though
[06:38] <levander> bullgard4: Go into System -> Preferences -> Main Menu and see what program that menu item launches.  Then "dpkg -S <full path to program>".  That's what I do.
[06:38] <fortruth> it's not new function what i want. may be mistake of synaptic
[06:39] <fortruth> bazhang is a android?
[06:39] <bazhang> good luck with your issue fortruth
[06:43] <timsandtoms> Is there a way to automatically remove a phrase from the filenames of a big group of files? I have a bunch of files named D20_Blahblahblah.pdf, I wanna remove the D20.
[06:43] <amenado> use sed
[06:44] <timsandtoms> amenado: Was that directed at me?
[06:45]  * iadu bye all
[06:45] <Danish989> I'm trying to use grub-install on a disk, but it says permission denied, can anyone tell me what the problem is?
[06:45] <amenado> affirmative
[06:45] <bullgard4> levander: I have done "System -> Preferences -> Main Menu" The Main Menu opened. I do not understand what do you mean by "and see what program that menu item launches." Simply calling the Main Menu does not launch any other program. Please explain.
[06:46] <patrickva> well i installed ubuntu, but i think I installed GRUB on the wrong partition
[06:46] <timsandtoms> amenado: What's sed? Is it something Ubuntu comes with, or do I hafta go install it?
[06:46] <patrickva> I get Error 2
[06:46] <amenado> Danish989-> are you root?
[06:46] <MoLE_> Danish989: are you running grub-install as root?
[06:46] <patrickva> Which partition does GRUB go on?
[06:46] <Danish989> amenado: how do I find that out?
[06:46] <amenado> timsandtoms-> its installed
[06:46] <Danish989> amenado: Im on the liveCD
[06:46] <akatsuki> hello, i just buy a lcd monitor.. .and i want to use with my laptop.. i buy a vga cable and i cant see any image of ubuntu!
[06:46] <amenado> Danish989-> is your prompt ending in #  ?
[06:46] <akatsuki> can someone help me please
[06:46] <shadow420> patrickva depends on what are u trying to do
[06:46] <timsandtoms> amenado: How do I use it?
[06:46] <patrickva> Huh?
[06:47] <patrickva> I'm trying to boot into Ubuntu
[06:47] <patrickva> What else?
[06:47] <amenado> Danish989-> sudo -s
[06:47] <bazhang> akatsuki: you hot plugged it or started up with it?
[06:47] <MoLE_> Danish989: you need to preface the grub-install command with sudo
[06:47] <MoLE_> !sudo
[06:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[06:47] <ubutom> patrickva, do you have an usb-disk attached?
[06:47] <akatsuki> bazhang i start it with
[06:47] <patrickva> I made a swap partition, root partition, and a boot partition i guess?
[06:47] <patrickva> Yeah
[06:47] <patrickva> I do actually
[06:47] <ubutom> remove it
[06:47] <patrickva> Okay.
[06:47] <shadow420> patrickva GRUB needs a home are you going to install it to the MBR or what
[06:48] <amenado> timsandtoms-> write a for loop and inside you replace D20_ with blank
[06:48] <patrickva> Uh, I dont thikn I can
[06:48] <patrickva> Cause it wanted to wrtie GRUB to the Windows hard drive
[06:48] <patrickva> I'm using 2 hard drives
[06:48] <bidget> is anyone in here using xchat-gnome?
[06:48] <mrpockets> so cry about it
[06:48] <patrickva> I didnt think that was the right drive
[06:48] <bazhang> akatsuki: can your card handle it? do you have your lcd properly connected? have you checked the monitor/display preferences in ubuntu?
[06:48] <ubutom> patrickva, when i leave my usb hd attached, grub gives me an error too, because i think it tries to boot from the usb hd
[06:48] <mrpockets> bidget, i am
[06:48] <patrickva> Ah ok
[06:48] <patrickva> WEll I'll try that
[06:49] <bidget> mrpockets: how do i connect to 2 networks at once?
[06:49] <patrickva> But which partition is it supposed to be installed to?
[06:49] <patrickva> Does anyone know?
[06:49] <kexp903> Hi
[06:49] <mrpockets> bidget,  XChat > New > Server tab
[06:49] <akatsuki> i had not.. how can i check the monitor display preferences in ubuntu?
[06:49] <shadow420> patrickva well if you have a floppy disk I would try making a grub boot disk
[06:49] <ubutom> primary hard disk partition normally paradon
[06:49] <bidget> mrpockets: thanks man
[06:49] <timsandtoms> amenado: I really dont know much about Linux... How do I do that? :(
[06:49] <patrickva> Okay..
[06:49] <ubutom> patrickva, sry
[06:49] <kexp903> I'm currently having some problems with Usplash
[06:49] <mrpockets> :-)
[06:49] <patrickva> The boot, root or swap?
[06:49] <genii> patrickva: as ubutom says, the MBR of the pimary hard drive.
[06:49] <genii> *primary
[06:49] <bidget> mrpockets: ehh... wait a sec... where sis the XChat button???
[06:49] <patrickva> uh okay
[06:50] <kexp903> boot
[06:50] <patrickva> Is the MBR the boot partition?
[06:50] <patrickva> Yeah thanks kex
[06:50] <mrpockets> upper toolbar, far left
[06:50] <amenado> timsandtoms-> well you have to learn how to write a script, or else do it one a time to remove that D20_ infront
[06:50] <mrpockets> what version you running?
[06:50] <genii> patrickva: Yes, MBR= Master boot record.
[06:50] <bidget> mrpockets: ummm... 0.18
[06:50] <patrickva> I know that..
[06:50] <timsandtoms> amenado: Ah, dang... It'll probably just be quicker to rename em all individually. Thanks for the help
[06:50] <genii> patrickva: From ubuntu the drive is normally called sda
[06:50] <mrpockets> you should upgrade...
[06:50] <mrpockets> like
[06:50] <mrpockets> a year ago
[06:50] <amenado> timsandtoms-> that the same in windows, writing a script to automate things you'd like done
[06:50] <bidget> mrpockets: my bar at the top shows: IRC, Edit, Network, Discussion, Go, Help
[06:51] <bullgard4> What is the service that provides the GNOME 'Service' System > Administration > Services > (Service Settings) > 'Audio settings management (alsa-utils)'?
[06:51] <genii> patrickva: On some linux the drive will be hda     but they are same thing
[06:51] <bidget> mrpockets: oh where do i upgrade? I figured if it was an old version it would update automatically
[06:52] <bullgard4> bidget: There is a difference between 'update' and 'upgrade'.
[06:52] <bidget> mrpockets: I went to the website and 0.18 is the newest version lol
[06:52] <evilbug> when the stable 8.04 comes out how would it be better to upgrade: fresh install or through update manager?
[06:52] <genii> patrickva: The important thing to remember is don't put it on a subpartition like sda1 or such. Just sda
[06:52] <bidget> bullgard4: oh... I see...
[06:52] <bidget> but upgrade to what?
[06:52] <bidget> is xchat-gnome a shitty irc client?
[06:52] <bazhang> evilbug your choice ask the folks in #ubuntu+1 for more opinions ;]
[06:52] <shadow420> patrickva well right now windows has first rights to boot first but when we install grub to the MBR or the master HD grub will run then you can chainload windows
[06:52] <bazhang> language please bidget
[06:52] <evilbug> bazhang- thanks.
[06:53] <bidget> oh sorry
[06:53] <evilbug> bidget- i like xchat.
[06:53] <mrpockets> i like it ALSO
[06:53]  * buzzsaw likes xchat too
[06:53] <bullgard4> bidget: I will refrain to talk to you if you are using street language as 'shitty'.
[06:53] <bess> jon
[06:53] <evilbug> bidget- i use xchat aqua on OSX.
[06:53] <bidget> hmm I see
[06:53] <shadow420> patrickva it's alot of techno lingo sorry
[06:53] <bidget> Im using ubuntu though, not osx lol
[06:53] <evilbug> it's the same program...
[06:53] <bidget> oh
[06:53] <bidget> ok
[06:54] <buzzsaw> me too :-)     xchat aqua for os x is nice      however i wish it did spellcheck :-)
[06:54] <evilbug> and i like the gnome/windows interface more than the osx one.
[06:54] <bidget> haha
[06:54] <seanieb64> buzzsaw, I use colloquy
[06:54] <evilbug> it does.
[06:54] <seanieb64> I kinda like it...
[06:54] <buzzsaw> i cant get it to work :)
[06:54] <bidget> would xchat aqua be in the package manager thing?
[06:54] <evilbug> buzzsaw you just have to set it for spellcheck.
[06:54] <seanieb64> whoops
[06:54] <shadow420> I use mIRC on windows and Xchat on Ubuntu
[06:54] <seanieb64> thought this was the mac chat, sorries
[06:54] <seanieb64> XD
[06:54] <bidget> yeah xchat was a little complicated so I got xchat-gnome instead
[06:55] <seanieb64> or BitchX if you wanna use the command line
[06:55] <evilbug> bidget- package manager?
[06:55] <seanieb64> :P
[06:55] <bidget> yeah isnt that what its called evilbug
[06:55] <bidget> ohh no wait I had bitchx before but that was the command line one so I ditched that and got xchat-gnome
[06:55] <evilbug> bidget- i installed mine via terminal.
[06:56] <bidget> evilbug: what do I have to type?
[06:56] <evilbug> buzzsaw- you want to enable spellcheck in xchat?
[06:56] <shadow420> evilbug bidget you mean synaptic?
[06:56] <buzzsaw> yes :-)
[06:56] <bazhang> irssi is worth a look as well
[06:56] <bidget> synaptic package manager yes
[06:56] <evilbug> bidget- i mean apt-get.i used> sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:56] <shadow420> evilbug thats correct
[06:57] <evilbug> buzzsaw- go to Preferences>Input Box>Enable Spellcheck
[06:57] <bidget> is it command line based
[06:57] <bidget> cause Im not so.. fluent...
[06:57] <bidget> lol
[06:57] <evilbug> bidget- no,it has an interface.
[06:57] <bidget> oh right on
[06:57] <bidget> ok well I just installed it so hold on I'll exit this one
[06:58] <evilbug> buzzsaw- did you get it?
[06:58] <buzzsaw> looking
[06:58] <evilbug> Input Box is under Interface
[06:59] <buzzsaw> ah it does work
[06:59] <evilbug> told ya.
[06:59] <evilbug> Bidget- welcome back.
[06:59] <Bidget> :D
[06:59] <pclynch> can i create a "sleep timer" for shutdown/hibernate options?
[06:59] <dmsuperman> can anybody hear me?
[06:59] <pclynch> dmsuperman... yes
[07:00] <evilbug> dmsuperman- "hear" you? :)
[07:00] <Bidget> alrighty so.... what do I have to do to get onto another server? xchat->new->server tab?
[07:00] <kalow> hello
[07:00] <kalow> anyone here ????
[07:00] <evilbug> yup.
[07:00] <dmsuperman> pclynch, well it just said network manager encountered an error and couldn't continue, i was wondering it disconnected me
[07:00] <kalow> I would like to fuck a woman up her pussy
[07:00] <evilbug> Bidget- you can have it connect to servers on startup.
[07:00] <kalow> any women in here?
[07:00] <kalow> I wanna fuck a woman
[07:01] <stdin> !ops | kalow
[07:01] <Bidget> thats great man
[07:01] <ubotu> kalow: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[07:01] <Bidget> ok so...
[07:01] <dmsuperman> i don't see how that was offtopic
[07:01] <evilbug> :)
[07:01] <Bidget> lol
[07:01] <pclynch> can i create a "sleep timer" for shutdown/hibernate options?
[07:02] <evilbug> Bidget- are you ubuntu-only?
[07:02] <buzzsaw> i think it was just a bit off topic
[07:02] <Bidget> evilbug, what do I have to do to get it to connect on startup?
[07:02] <Bidget> ummm
[07:02] <mrpockets> pclynch, kalarm
[07:02] <Bidget> evilbug, I have ubuntu and windows xp on this machine
[07:02] <dmsuperman> only in #ubuntu...people are here asking questions for 10 minutes and get no response. one guy start spamming, then 3 people jump on it :P
[07:02] <evilbug> Bidget- don't remember,haven't had to mess with it in months.let me see if i can figure that out.
[07:02] <pclynch> mrpockets : what is kalarm?
[07:02] <Bidget> evilbug, ok
[07:02] <Bidget> evilbug, I'll see if I can find out where to go too haha
[07:03] <evilbug> go to Server List
[07:03] <evilbug> File>Server List that's what it is for me.
[07:03] <UbuntuNewBie> Help me
[07:03] <mrpockets> pclynch, disregard. I'm baked...
[07:03] <UbuntuNewBie> Im new on Ubuntu
[07:03] <pokerfacepenguin> pclynch: you can pass parameters to the shutdown command as well
[07:03] <evilbug> i'm in osx btw...
[07:03] <UbuntuNewBie> I was install OS Ubuntu
[07:03] <dmsuperman> evilbug, i'm so sorry.
[07:03] <UbuntuNewBie> I want to install Cpanel hosting on Ubuntu
[07:03] <dmsuperman> evilbug, did you lose a bet?
[07:03] <UbuntuNewBie> Who can help me to install...
[07:03] <UbuntuNewBie> Please
[07:03] <Bidget> evilbug, well it should be pretty similar though it's the same program right
[07:03] <buzzsaw> evilbug thanks i just never was able to get it to work before dont know why
[07:03] <dmsuperman> !cpanel
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpanel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <dmsuperman> darn
[07:03] <pclynch> pokerfacepenguin : how and what would that do?
[07:04] <evilbug> dmsuperman- what are you talking about?
[07:04] <dmsuperman> UbuntuNewBie, try cPanel's website
[07:04] <evilbug> buzzsaw- no worries.
[07:04] <pokerfacepenguin> pclynch: the sudo shutdown -r now shuts your computer down now....you can pass different parameters to shut down at a certain time, etc
[07:04] <UbuntuNewBie> !cpanel
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpanel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <evilbug> Bidget- yes,similar.
[07:04] <pokerfacepenguin> pclynch: i guess i should say that restarts it
[07:05] <pokerfacepenguin> pclynch: sudo shutdown -h now halts it
[07:05] <buzzsaw> now if getting my masquerading to work was that easy :-) i would be set ;-)
[07:05] <evilbug> buzzsaw- :)
[07:05] <evilbug> Bidget- still there?
[07:05] <Bidget> evilbug, yep
[07:05] <UbuntuNewBie> :(
[07:05] <UbuntuNewBie> Thank u anyway
[07:05] <bazhang> dmsuperman: people give answers if they know them; as far as 'spam' this a family channel and that talk is never welcome here
[07:05] <Bidget> UbuntuNewBie, I would help you but I am quite new as well
[07:05] <newbieuu> i installed nVidia drivers , now when i try to change the "visual effects" custom , i get the error message "desktop effects could not be enabled" . before i was getting all the effects except the cube . Can someone help me ?
[07:05] <evilbug> Bidget- just highlight a server and click on Show Details.on Connection Options make sure Connect On Startup is checked.
[07:06] <evilbug> that's all you need.
[07:06] <Bidget> evilbug, k we'll see how it goes :D
[07:06] <Bailie> I am running Ubuntu on VirtualBox in Windows and testing Wine. Ubuntu is kinda slow as compared to Windows *inside* VirtualBox and Wine is superslow. Anything I can do abou it?
[07:06] <evilbug> Bailie- try it on another machine and NOT in VM
[07:06] <dmsuperman> bazhang, what are you on about?
[07:06] <evilbug> Bailie- if it's still slow,then it'll be slow.
[07:06] <bazhang> newbieuu: what does cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf say the driver is?
[07:07] <dmsuperman> bazhang, oh, that like 5 minutes ago
[07:07] <evilbug> Bailie- what are you trying to run in wine?
[07:07] <Bailie> evilbug: I have Windows and Ubuntu INSIDE VM, Windows is faster, why?
[07:07] <dmsuperman> bazhang, i was merely making a humorous comment at how everybody jumped at him
[07:07] <dmsuperman> bazhang, nothing trying to downplay anybody in here, i've done my fair share of helping myself :s
[07:07] <evilbug> Bailie- oh...no clue,not good with VM's.
[07:07] <Bidget> alright so anyway... anyone have any experience installing games with wine? I'm having a few performance issues, wondering what I can do to make it better
[07:07] <evilbug> Bailie- maybe an anomaly.
[07:08] <bullgard4> What is the service that provides the GNOME 'Service' System > Administration > Services > (Service Settings) > 'Audio settings management (alsa-utils)'?
[07:08] <dmsuperman> evilbug, VirtualBox is so easy, plus seamless integration is great
[07:08] <evilbug> Bidget- you can't really make Wine faster.
[07:08] <Bidget> evilbug, I was afraid of that
[07:08] <evilbug> dmsuperman- i don't like VM,never will.
[07:08] <bazhang> Bailie: you might consider wubi if you want an easier way of doing that
[07:08] <Bidget> evilbug, it just sucks how on the wine website they list steam as having "platinum compatibility" or whatever, but the games still only run at 20fps hahaha
[07:08] <evilbug> Bidget- just use windows for gaming,that's what i do.
[07:08] <benanz1> When using sudo is there a way to pass the password on the command line rather than interactively?
[07:09] <Flannel> benanz1: No
[07:09] <Bidget> evilbug, yeah, it's looking like thats what I'll have to do
[07:09] <buzzsaw> i installed ubuntu-server and just did a apt-get install ubuntu-destkop     however i dont want it to auto start x every time how can i disable that?
[07:09] <damo22> benanz1: gksudo = gui sudo
[07:09] <Bailie> I was thinking...in windows I disabled all special effects. And Ubuntu has more effects than windows originally did. Any way to disable ALL those effects?
[07:09] <bazhang> Bailie: sure set them to none
[07:10] <evilbug> Bidget- i wish every os would do gaming as well as win,then i could ditch it and be free of dumb issues that not even microsoft can fix or figure out.
[07:10] <Bailie> bazhang: Where's that?
[07:10] <Bidget> evilbug, I agree 100% man
[07:10] <benanz1> I am writing a GUI app on the iPhone but need to call sudo -- can't figure out how to get the password without supplying it on the command line
[07:10] <bazhang> Bailie: in appearances
[07:11] <Flannel> benanz1: You need to a) sudo the app, or b) tweak sudoers.  a is probably your better bet I guess.  It really depends on what you're doing.
[07:11] <Flannel> benanz1: Or, prompt the user.
[07:11] <buzzsaw> just play linux biased games :-)
[07:11] <evilbug> Bidget- i love it when i read/ear about microsoft execs having macs and not touching windows,ever.
[07:11] <buzzsaw> i have been playing crossfire for YEARS and find it great
[07:11] <evilbug> buzzsaw- what's wrong with you???
[07:12] <evilbug> buzzsaw- linux based games??????????????????
[07:12] <buzzsaw> what do you mean whats wrong with me?
[07:12] <evilbug> NNNNNNNNOOOOOOO
[07:12] <benanz1> well, can't prompt the user or sudo the app since both require interactively putting in the password and there's not gksudo-like facility for iPhone yet.
[07:12] <evilbug> Bidget- what steam games do you have?
[07:13] <evilbug> buzzsaw- busting your chops.
[07:13] <tds5016> hello.
[07:13] <evilbug> hey.
[07:13] <tds5016> can somoene help me get dual montiors configured?
[07:13] <spelling> what is a linux distro that is like a game?
[07:13]  * evilbug can't help.
[07:13] <bazhang> tds5016: as dualhead or xinerama?
[07:13] <tds5016> :-/. no worries.
[07:13] <tds5016> thanks.
[07:13] <evilbug> spelling- like a game?
[07:14] <buzzsaw> hum... broken x :-(
[07:14] <tds5016> bazhang what's the difference?
[07:14] <troubled> crys about a bitflip bug
[07:14] <Bidget> evilbug, tf2, css, hl2, dod:s
[07:14] <Bidget> evilbug, and all of the older hl1 mods as well
[07:14] <troubled> ECHAN
[07:14] <tds5016> bazhang, aka, I don't know where to start.
[07:14] <zcat[1]> spelling: linuxgames live DVD ?
[07:14] <evilbug> Bidget- i have all the hl1 stuff,the source games,and the orange box.
[07:14] <bazhang> tds5016: one stretches a picture across two monitors; the other has two distinct desktops
[07:14] <kernfreak> there is a distro like a game?
[07:15] <zcat[1]> there are a few gamer-oriented distros
[07:15] <Bidget> evilbug, cool
[07:15] <buzzsaw> i get    errors where encounterd while processing     acpid; acpi-support; powermanagment-interface; ubuntu-desktop :-(
[07:15] <tds5016> I am using an ati driver too, btw.
[07:15] <bazhang> tds5016: you can /msg ubotu xinerama or /msg ubotu dualhead for more info and links
[07:15] <evilbug> spelling- http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gaming-games-multimedia-entertainment/54309-game-distro-live-cd-w-doom.html
[07:15] <tds5016> .msg ubotu xinerama
[07:16] <Joe_CoT> hey, is there any way to determine the video driver i'm currently using? And no, i don't mean in the xorg.conf. I need to see if it's loading a different driver than it's supposed to
[07:16] <trollboy> what's a good mp3 player for gnome that will see nautilus's ssh:// mounts?
[07:16] <bazhang> tds5016: with a / not a .
[07:16] <tds5016> :-)
[07:16] <trollboy> rhythmbox won't work
[07:16] <tds5016> put that together..
[07:16] <evilbug> Bidget- how do you like xchat?
[07:16] <tds5016> some typos just so happen to make you look dumb :-).
[07:16] <Bidget> evilbug, it's great
[07:17] <Bidget> definitely an upgrade from xchat-gnome haha
[07:17] <evilbug> tds5016- have you tried xmms?
[07:17] <bazhang> spelling: see mib live games distro
[07:17] <tds5016> is there a way to configure dual monitors with a gui?
[07:17] <Bidget> I just instantly sprung on the one with -gnome cause I knew it would have a gui
[07:17] <Bailie> What is apt-proxy?
[07:17] <tds5016> I am just asking, because I am going to be switching to and from dual monitors to only a single monitor often.
[07:17] <evilbug> Bidget- a console based irc client would be confusin as hell.
[07:17] <spelling> zcat[1] where can i find linux games live dvd
[07:17] <Exlax> Question from a linux noob, is there any disadvantage to installing KDE on ubuntu instead of installing Kubuntu?
[07:18] <Bidget> evilbug, yeah well I had installed bitchx first but it was completely textbased
[07:18] <bazhang> spelling: search for mib live distro--or go to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[07:18] <trollboy> anyone?
[07:18] <bazhang> Exlax: well there will be redundant apps of course
[07:18] <Exlax> Redundant apps?
[07:19] <zcat[1]> spelling: http://live.linux-gamers.net/
[07:19] <Exlax> This is all new terminology to me.
[07:19] <bazhang> Exlax: two apps that do the same thing
[07:19] <Exlax> Oh.
[07:19] <evilbug> Bidget- i prefer a gui on most things.
[07:19] <evilbug> Bidget- ESPECIALLY on a irc client...
[07:19] <buzzsaw> gurr time to restart install process :-(
[07:19] <tds5016> anyone know if I can have a gui on this?
[07:20] <bazhang> tds5016: gui on what?
[07:20] <Bidget> evilbug, yeah it's definitely a lot easier, the command line is ok for some stuff but... not everything haha
[07:20] <sluimers> I have a new monitor (samsung lcdtv LW20M21CP) for my computer and Ubuntu seems to have problems with that as in I can no longer get into gnome.. I'm in the terminal looking at xorg.conf, when I try dpkg-reconfigure I get a error inderting battery /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/drivers/acpi/battery.ko NO SUCH DEVICE error.. what to do?
[07:20] <Exlax> bazhang: if i don't like it, can i remove KDE and the redundant apps without 9 million terminal commands?
[07:20] <tds5016> bazhang, setting up multiple monitors.
[07:21] <tds5016> I don't want to have to reconfigure my xorg.conf every time I want to plug the second monitor in :-)
[07:21] <bazhang> Exlax: you can /msg ubotu puregnome for the two or so commands you need to do for that
[07:21] <evilbug> Bidget- how's your full screen video in ubuntu?
[07:21] <Jordan_U> sluimers, What command are you running exactly?
[07:21] <bazhang> tds5016: did you even read the links?
[07:21] <Exlax> Thanks much, bazhang.
[07:21] <tds5016> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[07:21] <tds5016> that link?
[07:21] <NeoGeo64> hello all i will be upgrading from windows xp to ubuntu 8.04 soon
[07:21] <NeoGeo64> no vista for me
[07:22] <sluimers> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:22] <bazhang> NeoGeo64: there is an upgrade path for that?
[07:22] <NeoGeo64> lol
[07:22] <Bidget> evilbug, what exactly do you mean?
[07:22] <NeoGeo64> ill probably dual boot
[07:22] <NeoGeo64> keep xp for whatever
[07:22] <bazhang> just joking NeoGeo64, sorry
[07:22] <dwatson_> neogeo just run windows xp inside a virtual machine if you have to
[07:22] <bullgard4> What is the service that provides the GNOME 'Service' System > Administration > Services > (Service Settings) > 'Audio settings management (alsa-utils)'?
[07:22] <NeoGeo64> do i need samba to share files between two ubuntu machines
[07:23] <dwatson_> NeoGeo64, no you can use nfs or even scp
[07:23] <spelling> what is the best music player
[07:23] <evilbug> Bidget- when i run fullscreen video off of anything (youtube,vlc player,etc.) the bottom half of the screen has a short delay.
[07:23] <bazhang> NeoGeo64: depends on you; many using network shares like nfs
[07:23] <bullgard4> NeoGeo64: Yes. But there is an alternative.
[07:23] <Jordan_U> !best | spelling
[07:23] <ubotu> spelling: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[07:24] <bazhang> !amarok | spelling
[07:24] <ubotu> spelling: Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.8 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[07:24] <Bidget> evilbug, I havent actually tested any media yet... anyone know a good winamp-type clone for linux?
[07:24] <evilbug> Bidget- xmms
[07:24] <mosno> Bidget: audacious?
[07:24] <evilbug> Bidget- that's the exact purpose of XMMS.
[07:25] <bazhang> xmms is still under development?
[07:25] <Bidget> evilbug, ok cool
[07:25] <mosno> i thought projects like audacious and beep set out to replace XMMS
[07:25] <evilbug> bazhang- it's actually official and stable.
[07:26] <evilbug> the only media player i use in ubuntu is VLC,i don't use ubuntu that much though...
[07:27] <bazhang> does vlc use sql for its db?
[07:27] <evilbug> bazhang- i don't know technical details about it.
[07:27] <evilbug> it just does what i needed to in the 3 main os's.
[07:27] <xpkiller> hello
[07:28] <Peddy> can someone please tell me the directory where theme buttons etc are stored?
[07:29] <evilbug> Bidget- try VLC and see if you like it> sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:29] <Bidget> evilbug, vlc is great for video but I'd prefer something more like winamp for audio
[07:29] <zcat[1]> !luks
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about luks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:30] <Peddy> can someone please tell me where theme icons etc are stored?
[07:30] <zcat[1]> /usr/shared/icons
[07:30] <zcat[1]> s/d//
[07:30] <evilbug> Bidget- that's fine.like i said,i don't use ubuntu much so i don't even play media for myself in it.
[07:31] <evilbug> Bidget- why don't you try Add/Remove Programs and look for media players in that list?
[07:31] <evilbug> Bidget- then you can really see which one you like better.
[07:32] <dmsuperman> Bidget,
[07:32] <dmsuperman> Bidget, totally agreed. I tried amarok, it was too buggy
[07:32] <dmsuperman> Bidget, but I've got Exaile now
[07:33] <dmsuperman> Bidget, haven't used it a ton, but so far it's exactly what I want
[07:33] <dmsuperman> Bidget, check it out
[07:33] <evilbug> dmsuperman- exaile looks nice,a sort of itunes-ish feel to it.
[07:33] <helpfromu> hi
[07:34] <evilbug> helpfromu- hey.
[07:34] <Bidget> dmsuperman, ok thanks man
[07:34] <evilbug> i wish kde wouldn't be so buggy on my machines :( i've only had bad experiences with it so far.
[07:34] <MrDoug> hey, this is my first time using IRC, I have a ubuntu issue, but is it cool if i just butt in or should i wait
[07:34] <helpfromu> im still having a problem with the SHUTDOWN icon cuz i cant see all(logout,switch user,hibernate and etc is there except for shutdown icon, how can i solve this anyone pls? im using 7.10
[07:35] <cjzjm100> Hi guys!I want to use the command:":n1ŃĆün2s/word1/word2/g" in vim,how can i input the "ŃĆü"  in english?
[07:35] <evilbug> MrDoug- ask whatever it is you need to ask.
[07:35] <evilbug> MrDoug- that's how things go around here parts.
[07:36] <dmsuperman> evilbug, no, definitely not. I hate iTunes, even if it would run smoothly in windows.
[07:36] <dmsuperman> evilbug, It's more like Windows Media Player 10
[07:37] <dmsuperman> which was my favorite
[07:37] <evilbug> dmsuperman- the screenshot i saw made me think of itunes/songbird.
[07:37] <dmsuperman> i love the huge tree view of artists expanding to albums expanding to songs
[07:37] <MoLE_> dmsuperman I think a little piece of me just died with that remark.
[07:37] <dmsuperman> evilbug, iTunes has that 4 panel layout of artist, album, song and playlist
[07:37] <evilbug> dmsuperman- i quit liking wmp 4 years ago.
[07:37] <dmsuperman> MoLE_, that's how i like it, shut up :P
[07:38] <dmsuperman> evilbug, I only liked it for the treeview, it's terrible for actual playback
[07:38] <MoLE_> lol ;-P  he likes the pain of making tea
[07:38] <dmsuperman> evilbug, but for managing, it's good
[07:38] <dmsuperman> foobar2000 is the best media player though, once you can find a good functional skin for it
[07:38] <evilbug> dmsuperman- i actually use itunes in osx and winamp in windows.vlc in both for playback.
[07:38] <dmsuperman> evilbug, try foobar, with a decent skin it's amazing
[07:39] <dmsuperman> evilbug, and not just because of eyecandy, skins make up functionality
[07:39] <MoLE_> I think we're moving offtopic here - perhaps move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:39] <evilbug> dmsuperman- i actually don't mind itunes in osx.so far i've had no trouble with it and it sounds good.i've tried foobar before and didn't like it much.
[07:39] <bazhang> foobar for ubuntu?
[07:39] <MoLE_> MrDoug: ask your question
[07:39] <dmsuperman> bazhang, i wish, i doubt it
[07:39] <reloop> hi guys. im on ubuntu 8.04 x86_64. i have installed fglrx driver. fglrxinfo says: OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT. But im not able to activate the desktop effects. :(
[07:39] <evilbug> dmsuperman- i just want to install it and play media,not look for skins and whatnot...
[07:40] <spelling> bunshe and listen both of them can't play mp3 how can i install mp3 on them
[07:40] <arstanj> is everydns.net down?
[07:40] <bazhang> then take it elsewhere please
[07:40] <MoLE_> reloop: does glxgears work?
[07:40] <bazhang> spelling: this is gutsy
[07:40] <Bailie> I disabled effects in appearance-style-effects, but there still windows animation effects and mouse cursor effects, how do I disable those?
[07:40] <evilbug> reloop- ati isn't very linux-friendly.
[07:40] <zcat[1]> !info non-free-codecs evilbug
[07:40] <ubotu> Package non-free-codecs does not exist in gutsy
[07:40] <MoLE_> yes sorry Hardy questions to #ubuntu+1 please
[07:40] <zcat[1]> hmmm
[07:40] <dmsuperman> evilbug, agreed, and it's why i steered clear at first, but then i found a skin that had some good panels in it and so i just tried it out, and loved it
[07:41] <zcat[1]> !info w32codecs
[07:41] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in gutsy
[07:41] <dmsuperman> evilbug, but back to the topic
[07:41] <zcat[1]> wtf?
[07:41] <reloop> Mole: yes, 31061 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6212.085 FPS
[07:41] <dmsuperman> or rather, sleep
[07:41] <bazhang> Bailie: try alt f2 metacity --replace
[07:41] <zcat[1]> !codecs | evilbug
[07:41] <ubotu> evilbug: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:41] <reloop> evilbug, i know. but i have to deal with it now :)
[07:41] <evilbug> zcat[1]- i'm not having codec issues.the other guy is.
[07:41] <zcat[1]> sorry... someone asked how to play mp3
[07:42] <MoLE_> reloop: at risk of angering the channelops - this is usually a composite extension issue.  You may need to tweak your xorg.conf manually.
[07:42] <evilbug> spelling- just install the non-free codecs like zcat[1] said.
[07:42] <Bailie> bazhang: it says "could not run the specified command"
[07:42] <dmsuperman> zcat[1], calm down with the factoids, haha. "did somebody say MP3?! !mp3 !codecs !whocares-its-a-factoid"
[07:42] <mr_doug> sry bout that, i got disconnetced for some reason and then my nickname didnt work
[07:42] <bazhang> spelling: install ubuntu-restricted-extras for gnome gutsy gibbon 7.10
[07:42] <zcat[1]> in hardy the package is called 'non-free-codecs' :)
[07:43] <evilbug> spelling- via apt-get
[07:43] <zcat[1]> ten days? nine now?
[07:43] <dmsuperman> why change the name of the package? if it's the same thing, the only thing that accomplishes is people having to memorize a new name :S
[07:43] <bazhang> dmsuperman: are you familiar with the code of conduct around here?
[07:43] <reloop> mole i already added section "Composite". is there a guide i could have a look?
[07:44] <zcat[1]> dmsuperman: It's a metapackage.. you can still install gstreamer-codecs-bad or whatever the real package is called
[07:44] <dmsuperman> zcat[1], ah
[07:44] <zcat[1]> but the rest of us with aging memories can easily remember 'non-free-codecs'
[07:44] <xpkiller> how can i repair my external hdd like on xp with chkdsk?
[07:44] <shyster> Having problems connecting a logitech bluetooth mouse and keyboard.  Can anybody help?
[07:44] <xpkiller> how can i repair my external hdd like on xp with chkdsk?
[07:45] <Jordan_U> xpkiller, fsck
[07:45] <zcat[1]> shyster: if it's the same as mine; dissable the bluetooth, unplug it, plug it back in. It behaves as a plain ordinary USB keyboard and mouse
[07:45] <Atomic_UE> yaaay
[07:46] <shyster> i'll try that,  thanks a lot
[07:46] <bazhang> bailie this is gutsy gibbon 7.10?
[07:46] <doolz> shyster: yo
[07:46] <shyster> yo
[07:46] <mr_doug> help.... im trying to install ubuntu but after i press "start or install ubuntu" and the loading bar fills, my moitor says No Signal and dies
[07:47] <mr_doug> im using ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:47] <zcat[1]> mr_doug: there's a save vga option I think..
[07:47] <zcat[1]> *safe, not save..
[07:47] <Jordan_U> mr_doug, Have you tried safe graphics mode?
[07:47] <bazhang> mr_doug: how long do you let it run before aborting the process
[07:47] <spelling> evilbug how would banshee and listen recognise no-free codec is installed? is no-free codec requires money?
[07:47] <mr_doug> no, i tried changing the resolution but not safe mode
[07:48] <mr_doug> ummm, i let it run until the CD stops spinning
[07:48] <bazhang> spelling:  ubuntu-restricted-extras is the package to install and no money is required
[07:48] <zcat[1]> spelling: most programs in ubuntu use the same 'gstreamer' framework to figure out media ...
[07:48] <zcat[1]> spelling: and 'non-Free' just means source isn't available, not that you need to pay anything
[07:48] <Jordan_U> mr_doug, There is an option when you boot for safe graphics mode, try it
[07:48] <mr_doug> what will safe VGA mode do
[07:49] <mr_doug> kk brb thanks
[07:49] <xpkiller> Jordan_U: how do i know witch dev is my external?this my first time on ubuntu i normaly does be on kubuntu
[07:49] <simplexio> but its not "legal" in every country,
[07:49] <Jordan_U> mr_doug, It will use generic work everywhere drivers and safe 800x600 resolution
[07:49] <evilbug> sorry,back.
[07:49] <evilbug> spelling- it's just called non-free but you don't have to pay for them.
[07:50] <zcat[1]> yes, non-free also means that the codecs may be covered by patents or other restrictions in some countries
[07:50] <evilbug> spelling- all you have to do is install them and you're done.
[07:50] <Jordan_U> xpkiller, "sudo fdisk -l" or if you have it mounted somewhere run "mount" with no arguments
[07:50] <bazhang> spelling: this is gutsy or hardy
[07:50] <evilbug> Bidget- still with us?
[07:50] <simplexio> i think that no-free is ok, in every country which dosent allow software patents
[07:52] <Conexion> I was wondering... is there a reason I can't set my panel to stay on the bottom? I go to the properties and change the position, but it just switches back.
[07:52] <evilbug> Conexion- that's weird :( no clue though.
[07:52] <evilbug> it should stay...
[07:52] <xpkiller> Jordan_U: so i do fsck/hdd1?
[07:52] <bazhang> Conexion: this is gutsy gibbon? gnome or kde (or other)
[07:53] <Conexion> bazhang: Gutsy Gibbon Gnome
[07:54] <bazhang> Conexion: you wish to have only one panel? reset them to the default, or what is your end goal here
[07:54] <Conexion> bazhang: I just wish to have one panel for now, and have it on the bottom
[07:54] <bazhang> Conexion: the default gnome panel or the awn panel/dock
[07:55] <ojk007> can someone help me regarding dual monitors on an 8800GTX on Gusty
[07:55] <Conexion> I'm just using the default bazhang
[07:55] <xpkiller> Jordan_U: so do i enter the command fsck/hdd1?
[07:55] <evilbug> i want to get the following for my grandfather who is not computer savvy but don't want to spend $1000+ for a mac,what do you think? > http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspnnb_1525?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&~oid=us~en~29~linux_3~~
[07:55] <bazhang> Conexion: and how are you setting them? via configuring the desktop or other method
[07:56] <evilbug> i'm thinking since dell created drivers for stuff,he shouldn't have trouble with whatever when i'm not around to fix it.
[07:56] <spelling> evilbug what is the best video player and please no vlc
[07:56] <bazhang> ojk007: you want a shared desktop between the two or two distinct desktops
[07:56] <spelling> what is the best video player and please no vlc
[07:56] <Rage> spelling: try smplayer
[07:56] <Jordan_U> xpkiller, fsck /dev/hdd1
[07:57] <simplexio> spelling: mplayer :)
[07:57] <k1gwb> !best
[07:57] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[07:57] <evilbug> spelling- MPlayer tends to be popular
[07:57] <Conexion> bazhang: Well, I originally had the default setup. Then I got rid of the top panel, customized the bottom one via the properties menu (right clicking)... then I added a few different things using Add To Panel (Right Click) and then, I restarted later... and now it's stuck on top
[07:57] <Rage> smplayer is just mplayer with a better GUI for people who like GUIs
[07:57] <MoLE_> reloop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580748
[07:58] <xpkiller> Jordan_U:  Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/hdd1
[07:58] <mr_doug> (reg: moniter dies while installing ubuntu)  ok, i tried the safe graphics mode and had the same problem
[07:58] <bazhang> Conexion: my guess would be to reset the panels and begin again you can /msg ubotu resetpanels for the command to do that
[07:58] <xpkiller> Jordan_U:  fsck.ntfs: not found
[07:58] <Jordan_U> xpkiller, Linux cannot fix ntfs partitions
[07:58] <spelling> Rage i like smplayer but no xine or mplayer
[07:58] <xpkiller> Jordan_U: its in fat32
[07:59] <RAdams> Has anyone here see sound-juicer forget your format profiles? I can't access any mp3 profiles, and if I make a new one, it isn't selectable as an "output format" even after I check the "active" box
[07:59] <simplexio> me likes mplayer. i havent found way to get keys work in vls like they do in vlc, easy fast forward etc..
[07:59] <Jordan_U> xpkiller, can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[07:59] <evilbug> spelling- i personally like vlc since it's simple and it's played everything i've thrown at it so far,i haven't ventured much with media players ESPECIALLY out of the OSX and Windows range.
[07:59] <Conexion> bazhang:  alright :) thanks. I'll try that
[07:59] <thenetduck> if I compressed 36gbs of computer information including music, movies, docs programs etc... about how many gbs would it end up as if I used tar.bz2 ?????
[07:59] <thenetduck> is there some kind of calc for that?
[07:59] <simplexio> evilbug: mplayer work in windows too
[07:59] <spelling> evilbug vlc is poor gui
[08:00] <spelling> vlc look like a shithole in the ass
[08:00] <Jordan_U> thenetduck, music and video won't compress much since they are usually already compressed
[08:00] <evilbug> spelling- all i need are the main controls and a volume bar.
[08:00] <spelling> so does ubuntu
[08:00] <bazhang> spelling: you have heard many options so please try them out and watch the language
[08:00] <evilbug> spelling- so why are you using it?
[08:00] <thenetduck> Jordan_U, it would be more than 4gb wouldn't it? because I did a system back up compressing and my file is only 4gb big
[08:00] <simplexio> spelling: where you need gui ?. usuallu when i look videos i just klick video file press F for full screen,
[08:00] <thenetduck> Jordan_U, I am worried I am missing something ....
[08:00] <bazhang> spelling: this is not a polling channel thanks
[08:00] <spelling> evilbug so you admit it does look like it
[08:01] <evilbug> simplexio- i know that,but i stuck with it just because...
[08:01] <evilbug> spelling- it doesn't look bad,it's just simple.
[08:01] <RAdams> evilbug: do not feed the troll >.>
[08:01] <mr_doug> when i click "install ubunu" and the loading bar fills, my monitor says "No Signal" and dies.  I tried using a dif resolution, and safe graphics mode with no luck.  any other ideas
[08:01] <evilbug> RAdams- :) don't worry,i can handle myself.
[08:01] <spelling> hey what is a good headphone model or manufacturer and a good webcam company. i am about to buy some
[08:02] <bazhang> !ot | spelling
[08:02] <ubotu> spelling: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:02] <thenetduck> Jordan_U, doh I am so stupid! FAT32 only supports 4gb files... I need to back up to a larger media! duh......
[08:02] <RAdams> ’╗┐Has anyone here see sound-juicer forget your format profiles? I can't access any mp3 profiles, and if I make a new one, it isn't selectable as an "output format" even after I check the "active" box
[08:02] <zcat[1]> spelling: perhaps you would prefer beep-media-player, it's completely themable with winamp skins iirc...
[08:02] <Jordan_U> thenetduck, :)
[08:02] <simplexio> thenetduck: split helps
[08:02]  * zcat[1] thinks spelling looks like a troll
[08:02] <bazhang> I agree
[08:02]  * RAdams agrees with zcat[1]
[08:02] <evilbug> zcat[1]- :) a tiny one with big ears?
[08:03] <thenetduck> simplexio, you mean building smaller files? or is there a program called split
[08:03] <simplexio> thenetduck: there is program called split, you can also man dump
[08:04] <evilbug> simplexio- man dump =D
[08:04] <zcat[1]> I prefer my media players to be stable and reliable.. I really do not need something that looks 'fancy' -- I'd rather it matches everything else on my desktop.. or more often sits almost invisible in my tray
[08:04] <thenetduck> simplexio, thanks!
[08:04] <mr_doug> HELP :'(
[08:04] <mr_doug> when i click "install ubunu" and the loading bar fills, my monitor says "No Signal" and dies.  I tried using a dif resolution, and safe graphics mode with no luck.  any other ideas
[08:05] <zcat[1]> mr_doug: what video card do you use?
[08:05] <evilbug> mr_doug- maybe ubuntu is not for you.
[08:05] <Starnestommy> mr_doug: try waiting a few minutes and see what happens
[08:05] <mr_doug> ATI X1300
[08:05] <RAdams> mr_doug: telling us what graphics card you use would be helpful
[08:05] <bazhang> mr_doug: try with the boot params acpi=off and remove quiet so you can see the errors
[08:05] <evilbug> mr_doug- ati :( ungood for linux.
[08:05] <mr_doug> orly ATI no good ?
[08:05] <evilbug> mr_doug- not friendly for linux.
[08:05] <mr_doug> and how do i add boot param
[08:06] <mr_doug> i am really pissed at windows and would really like linux
[08:06] <mr_doug> but i am a n00b
[08:06] <mr_doug> never used it b4
[08:06] <evilbug> what issues have you had with windows?
[08:06] <mr_doug> all of them :) lol
[08:06] <evilbug> touche.
[08:07] <babyeater> im trying to install 8.04 beta and i keep getting a wireless error repeating on boot-up and i cant even get to the live desktop.
[08:07] <Jordan_U> !hardy | babyeater
[08:07] <ubotu> babyeater: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[08:07] <xpkiller> Jordan_U:  sudo fdisk -l is not showing my external hdd
[08:07] <evilbug> mr_doug- i've installed ubuntu 7.10 on my mac with an ati x1600 with no video issues.
[08:07] <babyeater> says b43-phy0 ERROR
[08:07]  * zcat[1] comments that people who have many problems in windows often have just as many problems in ubuntu because they are 'fiddlers' and cause those problems..
[08:08] <mr_doug> hmmm, well it works fine until after that loading bar fills
[08:08] <evilbug> mr_doug- i don't know what the problem with yours is.maybe it's like me and kde,every machine i've ran it on so far doesn't work for me :(
[08:08] <evilbug> mr_doug- indifferent of it being a crap comp or a high-end machine.
[08:09] <mr_doug> evilbug- how do i add boot paramaters
[08:09]  * evilbug not that good with linux... X(
[08:09] <xpkiller> Jordan_U:  sudo fdisk -l is not showing my external hdd
[08:09] <Jordan_U> xpkiller, Are you sure that /dev/hdd1 is the correct drive/partition ?
[08:09] <mr_doug> evilbug- another guy told me to add acpi=off what will this do
[08:10] <nxusr> my blacklist is not working because the modules still gets loaded
[08:10] <Rage> Trash in nautilus shows me that I've got two directories in my trash, both of them are shown to contain directories that I do not have permission to read. Now, I tried checking .Trash in my home directory as well as the .Trash-sukarn (sukarn is my user name) in the only other partition I have on my computer. Both are shown to be empty by nautilus as well as by ls in terminal. Clicking Empty Trash in nautilus does not delete these directories as I (somehow)
[08:10] <Rage> appear to not have the permission for it but "Empty Trash" does not give any error either. It just seems to fail. Any ideas what I might do?
[08:10] <xpkiller> Jordan_U: i dont know but normaly its in fat32 my hdd but im not seing it
[08:10] <evilbug> mr_doug- i'm really not good with linux,have just been using it for a month (rarely though).
[08:10] <mr_doug> evilbug- o i c
[08:10] <evilbug> mr_doug- try #kubuntu
[08:11] <meowludo> i am running ubuntu 7.04. I am using wine to run a game (diablo II) and it says that there is a critical error loading direct draw. I have had a look through some forums but am having a bit of trouble knowing where continue trouble shooting. Any Ideas?
[08:11] <evilbug> mr_doug- maybe they can help you.kubuntu is Ubuntu but with kde instead of gnome.so it's the same thing really.
[08:11] <mr_doug> evilbug- even though im not using kubuntu?
[08:11] <bazhang> the issue is the same no need for that channel; mr_doug have you tried the alternate install cd?
[08:11] <Izzi> is there anyway to re-route keyboard input over a network to another machine?
[08:11] <xpkiller> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/m1a49051f
[08:11] <mr_doug> o i c
[08:11] <simplexio> Rage: sudo rm ~/.Trash/* -rf , use with caution
[08:11] <mr_doug> all- thank you :)
[08:11] <evilbug> mr_doug- sure.
[08:12] <gluonman> I am trying to send a video to my friend who is using Windows XP and I have Linux ubuntu. I have to compress the files into an archive in order for them to fit in an e-mail, but can my newly made tar.gz be usable at all on her computer?
[08:12] <shyster> Anybody know how to get 5.1 with my soundblaster audigy card
[08:12] <simplexio> Izzi: ?
[08:12] <evilbug> gluonman- yes.she can download 7zip for free and extract it with that.
[08:12] <Rage> simplexio: rm: cannot remove `/home/sukarn/.Trash/*': No such file or directory
[08:12] <gluonman> evilbug, thank you.
[08:12] <nxusr> can someone help with blacklisted modules that still loads?
[08:12] <bazhang> Izzi: you mean a keylogger?
[08:12] <simplexio> Rage: hmm. does it make Trash for every oartition ..
[08:12] <ay> gluonman: I think even winrar can handle tgz
[08:13] <evilbug> ay- it didn't work for me when i used it.
[08:13] <Jordan_U> xpkiller, I don't know how else to find your drive, but try as a stab in the dark "fdisk /dev/sda1"
[08:13] <gluonman> ay, but if she has the basic unzipping program that Windows comes with, she should be fine, right?
[08:13] <Rage> simplexio: yes, that has been what I've experienced with ubuntu. It seems to make a .Trash-sukarn directory in every partition, but the only partitions I have are /, /home, swap and /media/storage
[08:13] <evilbug> gluonman- not from my experience.7zip will handle anything thoughl.
[08:13] <simplexio> Rage: for me it has created into ntfs partiotion .Trash-username directory
[08:14] <ay> evilbug: you sure? Cause I'm pretty sure I once dled tgz and un"zipped" winth winrar
[08:14] <gluonman> evilbug, how will she download 7zip? I'm not that familiar with Windows.
[08:14] <zcat[1]> gluonman: might be easiest for you to install 'zip' -- it's in the repos I think
[08:14] <Izzi> no
[08:14] <ay> yeah 7zip is nice
[08:14] <Izzi> I found what I am looking for
[08:14] <evilbug> gluonman- one sec.
[08:14] <Izzi> thanks bazhang and simplexio
[08:14] <gluonman> zcat[1], I'll look for zip in the repos and see what I can find.
[08:14] <Jordan_U> gluonman, You can make it a regular zip file rather than a tarred gzipped file
[08:14] <zcat[1]> gluonman: if she googles 7zip the first result should be the right place
[08:14] <evilbug> gluonman- http://www.7-zip.org/
[08:14] <evilbug> just give her that link.
[08:15] <gluonman> Jordan_U, how do you make a zip file in Linux?
[08:15] <meowludo> does anyone have experience ith wine?
[08:15] <Rage> simplexio: sukarn@Rage:~$ sudo rm /media/storage/.Trash*/* gives - rm: cannot remove `/media/storage/.Trash*/*': No such file or directory
[08:15] <newbieuu> bazhang , sorry i was away . in xorg.conf file the driver is "nvidia"
[08:15] <gluonman> evilbug, I guess making a zip file, if I can, would be better than instructing her to download something, because she frankly sucks at computers.
[08:15] <Jordan_U> gluonman, In nautilus ( gnome ) right click it :)
[08:15] <ay> WinRAR supports the following features:
[08:15] <evilbug> meowludo- i do a little bit,tried to install steam but didn't get it to work :)
[08:15] <ay> * Complete support for RAR and ZIP archives, and unpacking of ARJ, LZH, TAR, GZ, ACE, UUE, BZ2, JAR, ISO, 7z and Z archives. Future versions of WinRAR are planned to include 7z creation.[1]
[08:15] <gluonman> evilbug, I had to teach her how to restart.
[08:15]  * zcat[1] has given up on wine and moved onto the vodka..
[08:15] <gluonman> Jordan_U, thank you.
[08:15] <ay> so perhaps it doesn't take care of tgz :)
[08:15] <evilbug> gluonman- :) but just zipping won't make the file smaller.
[08:15] <Jordan_U> gluonman, np
[08:16] <Jordan_U> evilbug, What do you mean?
[08:16] <gluonman> evilbug, doesn't it compress the files?
[08:16] <simplexio> Rage: you could use find / -name "program that sould be in Trash"
[08:16] <bazhang> tar and gz are tgz correct ay?
[08:16] <simplexio> Rage: or find / | grep fileintrash
[08:16] <evilbug> Jordan_U- it makes a file into a .zip but it doesn't actually resize it to something smaller.
[08:16] <patrickva> Okay, so I got Ubuntu installed, however, when I'm trying to log in, it automatically logs me out and says there might be an installation problem since my session lasted less than 10 seconds
[08:16] <zcat[1]> .tar.gz is the same as .tgz  -- and .tar.bz2 is the same as .tbz
[08:16] <patrickva> Does anyone know the deal?
[08:17] <ay> evilbug: I think he needs it zipped to be able to send through msn
[08:17] <Jordan_U> evilbug, That's surprising, you sure you aren't thinking of tar?
[08:17] <gluonman> evilbug, it doesn't make it smaller, but it compresses it, right?
[08:17] <evilbug> gluonman- correct.
[08:17] <ay> evilbug: or maybe I'm yet again totally wrong
[08:17] <bazhang> compress does not = make smaller?
[08:17] <evilbug> Jordan_U- i'm sure. .rar can compress though.
[08:17] <gluonman> evilbug, so that's fine. I don't need to shrink it, just be able to e-mail it.
[08:17] <patrickva> Okay, so I got Ubuntu installed, however, when I'm trying to log in, it automatically logs me out and says there might be an installation problem since my session lasted less than 10 seconds
[08:17] <evilbug> gluonman- k.
[08:17] <Jordan_U> evilbug, It compresses for me
[08:17] <patrickva> What's the deal?
[08:17] <evilbug> ay- you can send anyhting through any messenger app.
[08:18] <simplexio> patrickva: check logs
[08:18] <zcat[1]> patrickva: if it booted the live CD ok, I'd say you messed up the install somehow
[08:18] <evilbug> Jordan_U- it never did for me.
[08:18] <patrickva> I used the alternative install cd
[08:18] <ay> evilbug: yes but you can't accept .avis straight out of the box in LIVE Messenger evilbug
[08:18] <patrickva> Check what logs?
[08:18] <patrickva> wtf
[08:18] <ay> fex
[08:18] <evilbug> ay- .avis?never heard of it.]
[08:18] <Jordan_U> evilbug, I think you must be mistaking .zip and .tar
[08:18] <zcat[1]> patrickva: ahhh.. well, alt-F1 and log in there .. then you can check the logs
[08:18] <evilbug> Jordan_U- nope.
[08:18] <bazhang> evilbug: indeed you are mistaken
[08:18] <ay> evilbug: mkay its a videclip format
[08:18] <ay> pretty common
[08:19] <evilbug> Jordan_U- i've never ".tar-ed" that much anyway.
[08:19] <ay> *video
[08:19] <patrickva> Well, what should I look for in these logs?
[08:19] <evilbug> ay- gotcha
[08:19] <patrickva> I'm a first-time installer
[08:19] <ay> ;)
[08:19] <dfgas> ughh, how do you get a processor to stop freq scaling?
[08:19] <patrickva> So I have no idea what's going on
[08:19] <Rage> simplexio: thanks a lot. that showed me that it was in "/home/sukarn/.local/share/Trash/files/"
[08:19] <Jordan_U> dfgas, You can use the frequency scaling applet
[08:19] <ay> evilbug: nor can you recieve .exe's
[08:19] <nxusr> can someone help with a module (bcm43xx) that i blacklisted but loads on boot?
[08:20] <ay> since they are totally dangerous according to MS
[08:20] <evilbug> ay- throug msn mess?
[08:20] <ay> Live Messenger
[08:20] <foibles> has anyone here used openbox?
[08:20] <simplexio> nxusr: rmmod
[08:20] <patrickva> And when I try to view the log, nothing shows up.
[08:20] <foibles> how do you add startup programs for it
[08:20] <bazhang> foibles: aye
[08:20] <ay> At least that was the dealio last time I used it
[08:20] <foibles> im having a hell of a time finding out how
[08:20] <simplexio> nxusr: assuming that you can go and remove it
[08:20] <evilbug> Jordan_U- , bahzang- .zip never compressed anything for me,if anything it made it a bit larger.
[08:21] <bazhang> evilbug: your linux experience seems a bit limited then
[08:21] <nxusr> simplexio, i have do rmmod and also blacklisted it but it still loads
[08:21] <evilbug> ay- i don't use live messenger X( what i use,you can send anything.
[08:21] <simplexio> evilbug: it dosent compress videos, but make txt file with 0 and say tha again
[08:21] <ay> what I use you can't send any files nor recieve any files
[08:21] <ay> :(
[08:21] <patrickva> Can anyone help me out?
[08:21] <zcat[1]> Going to try loading a bunch of educational games in wine tomorrow.. anyone want to place bets on how many will actually work? :)
[08:21] <evilbug> bazhang- i've set it to compress but it never did...so i switched over to .rar's and whatnot.
[08:22] <evilbug> ay- what are you using?
[08:22] <simplexio> patrickva: go console, and cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:22] <bazhang> patrickva: this is the live cd? have you considered using the alternate cd
[08:22] <htpc1100>  Hi, i following the guide on the page http://stacktrace.org/index_html/200600912lirc-imon-the-debian-way to get lirc going, but I get stuck after stopping the deamons, can someone help me please? I just need to know what my "YourRemotesLIRCKernelModule" is, or how I would be able to find that out. FYI, I tried @ the #lirc channel first, but noone answered there and @ the #debian channel I got a sermon about not writing "plz" inste
[08:22] <htpc1100> ad of spelling it out.
[08:22] <patrickva> I used the alternative cd
[08:22] <n3urogod> anyone know if windows mobile / pocket pc sync support has been enhanced for 8.04?
[08:22] <patrickva> I said that before.
[08:22] <zcat[1]> going by my current trach record, '0' is a fairly safe bet..
[08:22] <dfgas> Jordan_U, figured it out
[08:22] <bazhang> htpc this is on ubuntu?
[08:23] <htpc1100> yes
[08:23]  * evilbug says "good night" to all of you.
[08:23] <bazhang> patrickva: and what were the errors you got using the alternate cd
[08:23] <ay> lol good night :)
[08:23] <bazhang> htpc1100: why ask in the debian channel then?
[08:23] <ay> I say good morning :D
[08:23] <patrickva> the session lasted less than 10 seconds error
[08:23] <patrickva> It gives me a choice to view the error file
[08:24] <patrickva> but nothing appears
[08:24] <ay> But I'm off to lay some flooring
[08:24] <ay> ta-ta
[08:24] <Dustan> Are there any network security professionals present?
[08:24]  * zcat[1] wonders if perhaps 'error: no space on /' might have been reported during the install
[08:24] <bazhang> Dustan: please ask your question
[08:25] <bazhang> patrickva: the session? on the alternate cd there is no session
[08:25] <Hermanon> hello , when i try to build some driver i get this error : error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory , where can i find config.h ?
[08:25] <htpc1100> Because i've had the experience that many things work alike in both distris
[08:25] <patrickva> Eh, I installed Ubuntu from the alternate cd
[08:25] <patrickva> And I get into the log screen
[08:25] <zcat[1]> bazhang: they got through the install, they can't log into the freshly installed desktop
[08:25] <patrickva> Yeah..
[08:25] <patrickva> That's it.
[08:26] <bazhang> thanks zcat[1]
[08:26] <patrickva> What zcat[1] said
[08:26] <htpc1100> and I was sent menay times from here to there by others... so I tried there first this time
[08:26] <bazhang> patrickva: try booting in safe mode and report the errors you get
[08:26] <zcat[1]> patrickva: not sure if the install allows this, but the only time I've ver had that kind of login problem was when there was no free space in /home
[08:26] <patrickva> Should I use the failsafe terminal?
[08:26] <patrickva> Yeah.
[08:27] <zcat[1]> patrickva: alf-F1 and you shoulf be able to log into the text terminal
[08:27] <patrickva> Okay.
[08:27] <bazhang> htpc1100: please pastebin your sources.list thanks
[08:27] <zcat[1]> then df -h and make sure nothing is 100% used
[08:27] <patrickva> What's the command to get the errors in terminal?
[08:27] <patrickva> Okay.
[08:27] <bazhang> Dustan: you should probably take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:27] <patrickva> brb
[08:28] <patrickva> Well
[08:28] <patrickva> What if something is 100% used?
[08:28] <zcat[1]> less .Xsession.errors or something, I can't recall
[08:28] <zubu> how can i instal linux on a symbian device?
[08:28] <bazhang> zubu which device
[08:28] <zcat[1]> .. of course if there's no space in /home, it can't even log that as an error because there's no space to create the file
[08:28] <lissa88> ciao
[08:28] <lissa88> !list
[08:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:28] <zubu> any kinda mobile
[08:28] <patrickva> that's probably it zcat[1]
[08:28] <patrickva> Because I saw no file
[08:28] <patrickva> or error reporting
[08:28] <patrickva> even though there was an error
[08:29] <zcat[1]> so what does df -h say?
[08:29] <newbieuu> i installed nVidia drivers , now when i try to change the "visual effects" to custom , i get the error message "desktop effects could not be enabled" . before i was getting all the effects except the cube . in the xorg.conf file the driver is "nvidia"
[08:29] <patrickva> I have to reboot
[08:29] <patrickva> Ill see though
[08:29] <bazhang> zubu without some specificity we cant offer much help here
[08:29] <patrickva> ill brb
[08:29] <bazhang> newbieuu: how were the drivers installed
[08:31] <Jordan_U> newbieuu, The cube is not enabled  by default, that was a compiz preference , not a driver problem, now you DO seem to have a driver problem though :)
[08:31] <zubu> bazhang: symbian 6 devices.like the usual nokia phones
[08:31] <fat_rat> is kraken (botnet) any danger for ubuntu (linux) users?
[08:31] <zubu> coz. i thought that if ipod can have linux why cant mobile phones have too!!
[08:31] <bazhang> fat_rat: depends on how secure your usage is; do you login as root? do you have a weak password?
[08:31] <Bailie> does apt-get retrieve the same packages both in KDE and Gnome?
[08:31] <zcat[1]> gvfs-fuse-daemon       18G   17G  749M  96% /home/zcat/.gvfs  -- What is this?
[08:32] <JaccoH> any xen users on gutsy here?
[08:32] <bazhang> Bailie: aye
[08:32] <JaccoH> im having stability issues.. kernel oopses/crashes
[08:32] <zsiavas2> a configuration manual says "adding the 255.255.255.255 all-ones  to your /etc/hosts file:" but my question is how can make it. when I add if to that file nothing would happen,any post or prefix needs ?to configure dhcp server
[08:32] <zcat[1]> Oh.. gvfs , yeah.. I remember now :)
[08:32] <patrickva> Okay, so my boot partition /dev/sdb2 is being used 100%
[08:32] <patrickva> All 2 GBs of it
[08:33] <bazhang> that cant be good
[08:33] <patrickva> Does this mean anything?
[08:33] <DOOM_NX> good morning :)
[08:33] <newbieuu> first i enabled the Nvidia graphics driver in the restricted drivers , but i did not get the cube effect , so i downloaded the file and installed it following this guide http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_169.12.html
[08:33] <zcat[1]> hmmm.. you generally dont need a seperate /boot .. and yes, being 100% used is probably bad
[08:33] <patrickva> Okay..
[08:33] <patrickva> What can I do about it?
[08:33] <bazhang> zubu have you tried anything or are you just wanting to chat about it
[08:33] <patrickva> I used the guided partitioner from the alternate cd by the way
[08:34] <zcat[1]> how much space did you allow for all of linux and how did you partiton it?
[08:34] <bazhang> a 2GB boot?
[08:34] <patrickva> Um.
[08:34] <patrickva> I put it on a 1TB drive.
[08:34] <twocarlo_>  just wanting to chat about it i gues
[08:34] <zcat[1]> guided partitoner seems to have a bug then!
[08:34] <patrickva> 997GBs is the primary
[08:34] <patrickva> 2Gbs is the boot
[08:34] <patrickva> And a little less is the swap
[08:34] <bazhang> twocarlo_: this is not a chat channel; #ubuntu-offtopic is for chat
[08:34] <JaccoH> yikes.. 2GB is too small for the /boot?
[08:34] <patrickva> I guess
[08:35] <biabia> im not sure whats wrong, my usb drive has no files on it, but here is the df info for it
[08:35] <bazhang> too big
[08:35] <biabia> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[08:35] <biabia> /dev/sdb1              3991136        32   3991104   1% /media/disk-2
[08:35] <JaccoH> what the heck is on there?
[08:35] <patrickva> Uh okay.
[08:35] <patrickva> Wtf.
[08:35] <patrickva> So what can I do?
[08:35] <JaccoH> my /boot is 100Meg
[08:35] <zcat[1]> kinda sounds like the installer got confused and tried to put the whole isntall into /boot
[08:35] <bazhang> 100MB is more than enough
[08:35] <damo22> my /boot is 250mb
[08:35] <patrickva> I'm about to give up on this
[08:36] <JaccoH> patrick.. can you check whats on there?
[08:36] <Sturmeh> whats the problem patrickva
[08:36] <bazhang> patrickva: you might want to do a bit of reading before you reinstall
[08:36] <patrickva> I shouldnt have even had to use the alternate cd
[08:36] <patrickva> the full cd didnt work
[08:36] <Sturmeh> the problem? i just came in soz
[08:36] <patrickva> it gave me problems
[08:36] <patrickva> Whatever.
[08:37] <Sturmeh> <_<
[08:37] <bazhang> indeed; ubuntu should have all drivers free or not--sadly software patents do not allow that
[08:37] <Sturmeh> damn hardy herron still won't work ottb with my 8800GT
[08:37] <Sturmeh> :(
[08:37] <zcat[1]> Sturmeh: you're kidding? damn!
[08:37] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for help with hardy Sturmeh
[08:38] <Sturmeh> yea i'm ok still on gutsy
[08:38] <zcat[1]> was counting on hardy to fix that for another guy I help...
[08:38] <Sturmeh> using win atm tho
[08:38] <Sturmeh> maybe the release will fix it zcat[1]?
[08:38] <zcat[1]> at the moment he has to rerun the nvidia installer every time there's a kernel update
[08:38] <Sturmeh> yea same
[08:38] <Sturmeh> hasn't been one for a while thank god
[08:38] <bazhang> if you use envy then that is needed
[08:38] <kksm19820117> Greetings, all. I am trying to pick a distro for my father's box - a PIII - 600MHz, 64MB SDRAM machine. I have a AMD 2000XP+, 512 MB DDR box and it ran the standard Ubuntu install so sluggishly that I ended up installing a command line install and adding Fluxbox to it. I won't have access to the internet while I am at my Dad's, and I think he needs something like KDE which will look familiar. Will KUbuntu 7.10 do the job for him?
[08:39] <zcat[1]> Sturmeh: well, it might.. not counting on it if they were going to fix it they'd have done that already I thought
[08:39] <Sturmeh> i use the offical nvidia driver install
[08:39] <Jordan_U> Sturmeh, zcat[1] The current kernel is having problems with restricted drivers across the board, it may be fixed in the next kernel update ( or the previous version )
[08:39] <Sturmeh> lol i know
[08:39] <zcat[1]> nooooo envy! bad!
[08:39] <Sturmeh> good to hear Jordan_U
[08:39] <bazhang> kksm19820117: not enough ram for kubuntu
[08:39] <Sturmeh> use xubuntu
[08:39] <Sturmeh> :D
[08:40]  * zcat[1] refuses to use envy or automatix or other horrible hacks.. I'll devise my own horrible hacks thanks, at least that way I know how to fix them when they break!
[08:40] <bazhang> xubuntu wont run on that little either
[08:40] <Sturmeh> true
[08:40] <Sturmeh> automatix is a joke
[08:40] <Sturmeh> envy is useful, but it's quite easy to do it manually
[08:40] <zubu> bazhang:i have heard about ubuntu mobile edition but they are based on very heavy machines.i was considering linux on mobile phones which donot have powerful processors and RAM.
[08:40] <kksm19820117> bazhang: I should look at another distro then? Any recommendations?
[08:40] <simplexio> kksm19820117: you can use apt-get to just get all install files to harddrive
[08:41] <bazhang> zubu that is really not part of the /topic here unless you have tried something and need help fixing it
[08:41] <simplexio> kksm19820117: apt-get -d
[08:41] <zcat[1]> ubuntu is not a small distro... even xubuntu is still pretty heavy
[08:41] <Sturmeh> he needs something like KDE ( to make it look like windows i suppose? )
[08:41] <Sturmeh> zcat[1] ma rig can handle it :P
[08:42] <kksm19820117> Sturmeh: Yes. Dad is petrified of digital novelty. :\
[08:42] <zubu> ok
[08:42] <bazhang> kksm19820117: www.distrowatch.com has a plethora of choices for tiny installs
[08:42] <Sturmeh> kksm19820117 the worst thing about the past generations
[08:42] <zcat[1]> well, so can mine.. but no way I'd try to put it on any phone (do they make phones with a 2GHz CPU and a half-gig of ram?)
[08:42] <Sturmeh> lawl phone
[08:42] <Sturmeh> how bout eepc?
[08:42] <zubu> i will step on my research.could you please suggest me where to start!
[08:42] <bazhang> yeah they call it the eeepc
[08:42] <Sturmeh> 3e's?
[08:42] <Sturmeh> :O
[08:43] <zcat[1]> not sure it'd be the best distro for an eeepc even...
[08:43] <Sturmeh> but if u want compiz fusion
[08:43] <Sturmeh> :D
[08:43] <bazhang> zubu no idea really; symbian are plenty good--you might check www.digg.com
[08:43] <wangfg> how to config wlan
[08:43] <zubu> ok thanx.
[08:43] <Sturmeh> i gave up with wlan ages ago
[08:43] <zcat[1]> can the eeepc's video handle that? cool if it can!
[08:43] <Sturmeh> and ran a wire
[08:43] <wangfg> why
[08:43] <zubu> i'll post you if i get any kindaa lead on this topic.
[08:43] <bazhang> wangfg: which card?
[08:44] <Hermanon> hello , when i try to build some driver i get this error : error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory , whats the problem with u guys , any thing wrong with my question , why no body cares about it ?
[08:44] <wangfg> bazhang: i use ibm thinkpad x31
[08:44] <zcat[1]> !b-e Hermanon
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about b-e hermanon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <zcat[1]> !b-e | Hermanon
[08:44] <ubotu> Hermanon: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[08:44] <gregory> Hermanon: you need to install linux kernel header package
[08:44] <wangfg> bazhang: how can i know the card type?
[08:45] <bazhang> wangfg: you have the computer there in front of you with ubuntu running?
[08:45] <zcat[1]> I think b-e includes kernel headers too...
[08:45] <Hermanon> !b-e
[08:45] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[08:45] <tbwen> uhh i can't run ubuntu... can anyone help me?
[08:45] <wangfg> bazhang: yes, i use hardy now with only terminal with x
[08:46] <bazhang> tbwen: we need much more info thanks
[08:46] <Hermanon> thanks guys
[08:46] <wangfg> bazhang: without, sorry
[08:46] <tbwen> ok so i've burnt the ISO, i have it on CD
[08:46] <tbwen> my PC will boot the cd but when it run ubuntu/try to intall it, my moniter reads no connection
[08:46] <bazhang> wangfg: this is really better asked in #ubuntu+1 ; try lspci and pastebin the output for them there
[08:46] <fish> hello good people
[08:47] <GIn> !ogg
[08:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:47] <wangfg> bazhang: i know,but it seem nothing with hard to do
[08:47] <fish> Well I successfully moved my Ub install to my new hd+
[08:47] <fish> -+
[08:48] <bazhang> wangfg: feel free to ask wherever; but if people find out it is Hardy they will !hardy you ;]
[08:48] <tbwen> anyone know why no VGA output to my moniter on ubuntu? I can't see anything i do once i start ubuntu up
[08:48] <Sturmeh> tbwen what gfx card do u have?
[08:48] <tbwen> nvidia 8600GTS
[08:48] <Sturmeh> you trying to boot gutsy gibbon?
[08:49] <tbwen> i'm sorry, don't know what you mean
[08:49] <Sturmeh> what version of ubuntu are you trying to load
[08:49] <tbwen> i'm kinda new to linux/unix/anything out of windows stuff
[08:49] <bazhang> tbwen chinese?
[08:49] <tbwen> not the beta
[08:49] <fish> anyone here good with nvida driver issues?, When i try to boot with my GeForce 6 series the machine freezes during the very early stages of the boot process and I have to do a hard reset to get the computer to respond
[08:49] <fish> this is after making changes to nv in the display settings
[08:49] <tbwen> english but i know ping ying if needed...
[08:49] <Sturmeh> tbwen try boot in safe graphics mode
[08:49] <tbwen> tried it
[08:49] <wica_> Hello
[08:50] <wica_> how can I setup my network?
[08:50] <Sturmeh> ubuntu doesn't work with the 8 series
[08:50] <wangfg> bazhang: it is bcm4306 802.11b/g
[08:50] <Sturmeh> normally
[08:50] <Sturmeh> i mean
[08:50] <tbwen> i've ran ubuntu before on a 5200 but my new 8600gts not working
[08:50] <Sturmeh> yea i know
[08:50] <tbwen> :( that explains then
[08:50] <Sturmeh> i have 8800gt
[08:50] <Sturmeh> and when i boot cd it doesn't work
[08:50] <Sturmeh> so i had to use safe graphics mode
[08:50] <Sturmeh> to install
[08:50] <tbwen> my safe graphics won't work either though
[08:50] <Sturmeh> have you tried 7.10 ?
[08:50] <bazhang> wangfg: I believe you need to /msg ubotu broadcom for info and links for that to get going
[08:50] <wangfg> bazhang: what does it mean !hardy :)
[08:51] <magic9man2> ēpīĻüHüH
[08:51] <magic9man2> ēĮé┼üH
[08:51] <aryo> haiiii
[08:51] <tbwen> i believe i have the lastest stable ub
[08:51] <magic9man2> LOOL
[08:51] <meowlud1> hi all :) how would i go about upgrading to version 9.5 of wine? i am currently running version 9.33. Also, does anyone know how i add the 'restricted extras' package?
[08:51] <tbwen> i d/l and burnt today
[08:51] <fish> anyone here good with nvida driver issues?
[08:51] <Sturmeh> did u check the disc?
[08:51] <bazhang> wangfg: /msg ubotu hardy and find out ;]
[08:51] <Sturmeh> fish maybe
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[08:52] <bazhang> fish sounds like a bad iso or a bad burn frankly and not a driver issue; best to check the md5 sum and reburn at lower speed if it matches
[08:52] <tbwen> ok yeah i've got 7.10 ub
[08:52] <tbwen> 64bit version
[08:52] <tbwen> ... core 2 duo is a 64bit, right?
[08:53] <fish> you mean my install cd was burned incorrectly?
[08:53] <bazhang> tbwen can be; no need though really
[08:53] <wangfg> bazhang: th
[08:53] <bazhang> fish that is always the first suspect in cases like this
[08:53] <tbwen> so should i get the x86 intead?
[08:53] <bazhang> tbwen: how much ram you got?
[08:53] <tbwen> 2gb @800mhertz
[08:54] <Sturmeh> c2d is capable of 64bit yes
[08:54] <Sturmeh> but try x86 if you have it on hand
[08:54] <fish> lol this is madness, i have install this OS 2 times today...lol
[08:54] <Sturmeh> fish whats the problem?
[08:54] <fish> I used Fedora Core 8 and had the same problem
[08:54] <meowlud1> hi all :) how would i go about upgrading to version 9.5 of wine? i am currently running version 9.33. Also, does anyone know how i add the 'restricted extras' package? I am running ubuntu version 7.04. If anyone knows a shortcut in terminal it would be much appreciated.
[08:54] <wangfg> bazhang: thanks, it gives a link...
[08:54] <fish> When i try to boot with my GeForce 6 series the machine freezes during the very early stages of the boot process and I have to do a hard reset to get the computer to respond
[08:54] <bazhang> tbwen: save yourself the headache and use the 32bit; I have 64bit machine and it works great
[08:54] <drumline> I noticed on 7.10 that the eth1 interface is not in the /etc/network/interfaces file.  Where did it go?
[08:54] <bazhang> wangfg: best to read the broadcom link then ;]
[08:55] <gregory> !software | meowlud1
[08:55] <ubotu> meowlud1: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[08:55] <meowlud1> thanks gregory!
[08:55] <drumline> !ubotu interfaces
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about interfaces - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <tbwen> is there anything for nvidia 8 series workaround?
[08:55] <bazhang> fish you matched the md5 sum?
[08:56] <wangfg> bazhang: ok, it seems complecated
[08:56] <tbwen> my ub will run just nothing on screen; ctrl+alt+del restarts and mouse/keyboards all have LEDs lit
[08:56] <fish> in fact, i had this problem using the live cd for Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Fedora8, openSUSE, and PCLinuxOS2007... same problem
[08:56] <arstanj> Hi, how to check which services running at which runlevel? Is there a list command? update-rc.d add/remove only so far
[08:56] <Sturmeh> tbwen search teh forums
[08:56] <bazhang> fish you did or did not match the md5 sum
[08:56] <Sturmeh> theres alot of material
[08:56] <Sturmeh> tbwen have you tried alt.cd?
[08:56] <fish> i have no idea what that is
[08:57] <fish> so i dont know(think) i did
[08:57] <tbwen> sturmeh, what's alt.cd?
[08:57] <sami> Does anyone know any application for starting a slideshow from CLI?
[08:57] <Sturmeh> alternate cd installation
[08:57] <Sturmeh> lets u install without booting live cd ubuntu
[08:57] <janga> sami, fbi
[08:57] <bazhang> !md5
[08:57] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[08:57] <bazhang> see above fish
[08:57] <sami> janga, fbi?
[08:57] <DJones> !alternate | tbwen
[08:57] <ubotu> tbwen: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[08:57] <Sturmeh> fish when you boot your cd, pick the "check cd" option
[08:57] <tbwen> well i want to install ub to HD perm.
[08:57] <fish> oh yeah,
[08:57] <gregory> sami: you can start openoffice presentation from commandline with a filename
[08:58] <fish> I did that
[08:58] <sami> janga, i dont want to start a framebuffer slideshow.
[08:58] <sami> gregory, Too heavy
[08:58] <tbwen> oh... so i got the wrong UB
[08:58] <Sturmeh> !alternate
[08:58] <janga> sami, fbi -a starts framebuffer slideshow
[08:58] <LSD|Ninja> tbwen: both the alternat and desktop CDs let you do that
[08:58] <Sturmeh> !uboto alternate
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto alternate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <sami> janga, i don't want framebuffer.
[08:58] <fish> I did that the very 1st time i burned it and tried to load the cd and it said it was fine
[08:58] <tbwen> so on boot optons, should i go to OEM install?
[08:59] <Sturmeh> is that an option?
[08:59] <tbwen> is that the text one?
[08:59] <janga> but you cant display images in cli without it?
[08:59] <LSD|Ninja> Sturmeh: has been for a while iirc
[08:59] <bazhang> fish did you test the disk? during initial boot?
[09:00] <tbwen> is the OEM install the text only version in the live CD boot options?
[09:00] <fish> yes
[09:00] <arstanj> Hi, how to check which services running at which runlevel? Is there a list command? update-rc.d add/remove only so far
[09:00] <Sturmeh> hy LSD|Ninja
[09:00] <Wayne^R2> ’╗┐anybody know how to have a video file playing as a desktop background?
[09:00] <LSD|Ninja> Wayne^R2: VLC I think does that
[09:00] <bullgard4> What is the service that is provided by the GNOME 'Service' System > Administration > Services > (Service Settings) > 'Audio settings management (alsa-utils)' to the operating system or user?
[09:00] <Sturmeh> tbwen not sure, i thought you had to use the alternate cd iso
[09:01] <LSD|Ninja> bullgard4: that probably handles saving and loading mixer levels
[09:01] <wangfg> bazhang: sorry, the hardy wiki pages is not there yet
[09:01] <tbwen> ok thanks everyone. i'm going to try OEM install and if that doesn't work i'll get the alt.cd
[09:01] <bazhang> wangfg: thus all the more reason to ask in the hardy channel
[09:02] <wangfg> bazhang: you are right
[09:02] <bullgard4> LSD|Ninja: When I switch off this 'Service' I still can save and load mixer levels.
[09:02] <bazhang> ten more days then we can all unite
[09:02] <gregory> arstanj: seems there is no command. you have to browse manually in the filesystem
[09:02] <fish> bazhang, yes
[09:03] <arstanj> gregory: thanks man, its good to have sth like chkconfig in redhat/fedora
[09:03] <bazhang> fish yes? not sure what you are referring to
	fish did you test the disk? during initial boot
[09:03] <fish> bazhang, yes
[09:03] <Wayne^R2> ’╗┐’╗┐’╗┐’╗┐’╗┐anybody know how to have a video file playing as a desktop background ’╗┐or have something like windows "active desktop" with a webpage as the desktop?
[09:04] <bazhang> fish how about removing quiet and adding acpi=off to the boot parameters
[09:04] <LSD|Ninja> Wayne^R2: VLC I think does that
[09:04] <bazhang> Wayne^R2: using compiz? iirc you can set it there
[09:04] <Wayne^R2> bazhang: LSD|Ninja: compiz yes, vlc does it in windows, not sure about gnome/compiz
[09:05] <JaccoH> is there a way to use apt to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit?
[09:05] <Mithsir> Hi! I get this error when compiling a program (KiCAD): "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSM". But there is a /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 on my system. What am I missing?
[09:05] <bazhang> need a really good gpu though ;]
[09:05] <ocs> hi. i can't disable eth2: tried with gui, ifconfig eth2 down and ifdown eth2 .... what should i do?
[09:05] <fish> bazhang, how would I do that?, Sorry, I am not that experienced with linux as of yet.
[09:05] <Hermanon> i install the packege linux-libc-dev , i still get that config.h is not there ?
[09:05] <gregory> arstanj: ubuntu, based on debian, doesnt have this sort of tool on purpose. for the people who want to tinker more
[09:05] <bazhang> JaccoH: no sadly
[09:06] <arstanj> gregory: I found this useful sysv-rc-conf
[09:06] <pawan> hi
[09:06] <fish> bazhang, if it helps, I am ery comfortable in Terminal
[09:07] <fish> *very
[09:07] <pawan> can madriva be installed on top of ubuntu
[09:07] <bazhang> fish this will be a dual boot? you might consider wubi ; otherwise you need to get into the grub menu and edit it
[09:07] <bazhang> pawan on top of? or dual boot
[09:07] <pawan> dual boot
[09:07] <bazhang> yes pawan
[09:08] <fish> bazhang, Well, I am fasing out fedora, I will be sticking with Ubuntu and eventually fedora will be completely removed from my system... Actually all I need to do is copy a few files from the file system to this files system.
[09:09] <Sturmeh> lol fish
[09:09] <Sturmeh> any 8 series problems with fedora?
[09:09] <bazhang> fish if you remove quiet then we can see the exact errors you are getting
[09:10] <fx|RabBi1> !register
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[09:10] <fish> bazhang, and I have to do that in the GRUB boot loader using "e"
[09:10] <fish> ?
[09:10] <bazhang> fish yes ;]
[09:11] <fish> bazhang, lol, ok, im understanding... what parameters should i use?
[09:11] <fish> Sturmeh, you mean FC8 or GeForce 8 series?
[09:12] <bazhang> fish try acpi=off remove quiet, and is this an ide or sata drive?
[09:12] <fish> ide
[09:12] <bazhang> fish then try all_generic_ide as well
[09:12] <Sturmeh> ma 8800GT
[09:12] <Sturmeh> and ur 8600 GS
[09:12] <Sturmeh> :P
[09:12] <Sturmeh> geforce ofcause
[09:13] <buzzsaw> how do i tell my eth1 to always have the address of     192.168.0.1 ?    it seems every time i restart i have to sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1
[09:13] <fish> bazhang, I will try that, thank you
[09:13] <simplexio> buzzsaw: static ip address in that net config gui
[09:13] <fish> Sturmeh, I dont have an 8 series... I have a 6 seeries
[09:14] <buzzsaw> no gui :-)
[09:14] <buzzsaw> i have ubuntu-server
[09:14] <simplexio> buzzsaw: /etc/network/interfaces is conf file i think
[09:14] <void^> buzzsaw: man interfaces
[09:14] <ompaul> buzzsaw, system administration network -- you will need the gateway address  .1 or .254 are usually gateways I prefer to have the machines in the +50 range (and I don't use .1.*  ;-))
[09:14] <simplexio> buzzsaw: attleast ther i did my conf and it works
[09:15] <Feral_Kid> I have been banging my head trying to get Ubuntu 7.10 working nicely with my atheros card. It is a mini-pci AR5212/AR5213 card, and although it connects to the AP, the connection is real flakey... Even when sitting directly under the AP... Any pointers?
[09:15] <fish> Sturmeh, and yes, i had problems in FC8 with my 6 series, i had it narrowed down to a driver issue there but decided to go exclusivly with ubuntu so I am kind of restarting my search for assistance
[09:15] <bazhang> fish I have to go out for a little while; I will be back in about 90 mins if you still need help also /msg ubotu bootoptions can give more info as well
[09:15] <kona> Hello
[09:15] <fish> bazhang, Alrighty, thank you bazhang
[09:15] <bazhang> !yay | fish
[09:15] <ubotu> fish: Glad you made it! :-)
[09:16] <bullgard4> What is the service that is provided by the GNOME 'Service' System > Administration > Services > (Service Settings) > 'Audio settings management (alsa-utils)' to the operating system or user?
[09:16] <tsukasa> heres an odd question for ya, how do you wake a computer up from monitor powersavings via ssh
[09:16] <fish> lmao, i just got that uBOTu... lol
[09:16] <fish> ok im gonna go try this
[09:17] <tocmo0nlord> whats the tty1 2 3 4 5 6 7 for ?
[09:17] <gregory> Feral_Kid: you already tried the info in !atheros ?
[09:17] <Jordan_U> tocmo0nlord, Convenience
[09:17] <gregory> !atheros | Feral_Kid
[09:17] <ubotu> Feral_Kid: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:17] <simplexio> tsukasa: dont remember it for sure but /proc/acpi/wakeup could be one
[09:17] <tocmo0nlord> whats the idea of it tho ? having diff terminals in 1 pc ?
[09:18] <Jordan_U> tocmo0nlord, Each one doing different things
[09:18] <gregory> tocmo0nlord: its a set of consoles to keep things sorted (back in the old days without X and stuff)
[09:18] <simplexio> and for people who didnt know what screen is
[09:18] <tocmo0nlord> tty7 is where the x screen is ?
[09:18] <Jordan_U> tocmo0nlord, Usually, yes
[09:19] <tocmo0nlord> what is tty1 for ?
[09:19] <tocmo0nlord> is it like the admin site of it ?
[09:19] <tocmo0nlord> side
[09:19] <Jordan_U> tocmo0nlord, Having a terminal separate from X
[09:20] <kona> Hi - Anyone here use remote desktop client Hamachi - If so ... - Could use some info on how to install
[09:20] <kona> Can't locate in Synaptics
[09:21] <jjh2o> hello everyone, i've just installed songbird and i cant find it to open, where would i find it?
[09:21] <Feral_Kid> gregory: Yes, I did everything except build the latest version of madwifi...
[09:22] <gregory> kona: you already tried remote desktop client packaged for ubuntu. check in add/remove software
[09:22] <gregory> kona: you already tried remote desktop client packaged for ubuntu? check in add/remove software
[09:23] <unop> tocmo0nlord, it comes about from the days when unix was really multi-user .. different people logged into the same computer but from different terminals - today, it allows you to have multiple sessions
[09:23] <tocmo0nlord> if my x gets frozen ive gone in tty1 remove lock and start x again on tty1 but its still running on tty7 how could would i go on about this issue ?
[09:23] <bbuuzz> sweet after working all day it finally works :-)
[09:23] <bbuuzz> thank you every one :-)
[09:23] <kona> gregory: not as yet - the Hamachi was highly recommended by a fellow I spoke with in Kona - Hawaii while on vaction. Said it works real well and likes it allot....
[09:24] <gregory> jjh2o: is songbird an ubuntu package?
[09:24] <ShiroUsagi> Hi, could anyone here help me with samba on Gutsy?
[09:24] <tocmo0nlord> i want to fix or restart x on tty7 not start a new one on tty1
[09:24] <unop> tocmo0nlord, the terminal X chooses is hardcoded in a script, it's normal
[09:24] <ompaul> tocmo0nlord, that is the default - why do you think that it is starting on tty1
[09:25] <simplexio> tocmo0nlord: kill X and then you go tty7, in ubuntu X restarts automatically if its killed
[09:25] <Jordan_U> tocmo0nlord, Why don't you just kill X? GDM will respawn it
[09:25] <gregory> kona: i understand. however chances are better for getting ubuntu-support if you could use the ubuntu substitute
[09:25] <tocmo0nlord> how can i kill x ?
[09:25] <gregory> ShiroUsagi: try #ubuntu-server
[09:25] <rinaldi_> hi, when i play some fullscreen games I still see the menu bars at the top and bottom of my screen. anyone know how to fix it? compiz is off
[09:25] <ompaul> tocmo0nlord, several ways - one is    CTRL ALT Backspace
[09:25] <simplexio> tocmo0nlord: but if you dont wat it to respawn you /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:25] <kona> gregory: running install of the latest Ubuntu beta 8.4
[09:25] <ShiroUsagi> gregory, thanks
[09:25] <tocmo0nlord> let me try
[09:25] <Jordan_U> tocmo0nlord, ctrl+alt+backspace or if it's really locked up alt+sysrq+k
[09:26] <gregory> kona: great, welcome to the club
[09:26] <Jordan_U> !hardy | kona
[09:26] <ubotu> kona: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:26] <tocmo0nlord> would this also work if it was frozen ?
[09:27]  * Jizzo waves
[09:27] <kona> gregory ok - wouldn't hurt to install both - can always settle on one I like - and uninstall other later - thanks for tip  :o)
[09:27] <Jordan_U> tocmo0nlord, alt+sysrq+k should do it, if not alt+sysrq+r then alt+sysrq+k will definitely do it
[09:27] <tocmo0nlord> sysrq ?
[09:28] <Jordan_U> tocmo0nlord, it's usually the same key as printscreen
[09:28] <tocmo0nlord> ah
[09:28] <tocmo0nlord> i see it now lol
[09:29] <kona> ubotu: yea - couldn't remember name of release - but that's it by golly - lik'n it allot - very nice - found my USB WiFi stick w/no problems - it's smooth sailing so far....
[09:30] <kona> ubotu: So need to be in #ubuntu+1 channel - correct? Sorry if in wrong support channel...
[09:31] <fish> Hello again folks
[09:32] <kona> What release's or version's of Ubuntu does this channel support????
[09:32] <fish> can someone please scroll up and get the  boot parameters that bazhang gave me?, I thought I had them copied but i guess it didnt happen
[09:33] <fish> its something like acpi=off quiet something
[09:33] <JPSman> Does anyone here rock the Electric Sheep screensaver?
[09:34] <fish> i dont use screensavers
[09:34] <Nemykal> Anybody got an ASUS Striker II Formula Motherboard?
[09:34] <JPSman> fish: This one is unique, have you heard of it?
[09:34] <fish> noped
[09:35] <JPSman> fish: it torrent fractal animations to your computer.  Thing is these fractals are calculated by - get this - anyone viewing the screen saver
[09:35] <gregory> kona: 7.10 and older
[09:35] <gregory> kona: ubotu is a *bot*
[09:37] <JPSman> So I am using xchat - can someone tell me what the red line represents?
[09:38] <ubutom> Apr 14 10:12:39 <bazhang>       fish then try all_generic_ide as well
[09:38] <Nemykal> JPSman, I think it shows where the most recent message was at the time you opened the Xchat window
[09:38] <kona> gregory: Thanks finally figured that out - <grin> silly me - thanks
[09:39] <JPSman> nemykal: due to lag?
[09:39] <fish> woah ubutom, lol i didnt think anyone would actually look for it... but what i need is actually abovce that
[09:39] <Morten_> How do I change my network-identity? -- For instance to "morten-ubuntu"?
[09:40] <charles035> hi I am looking for a full Turn-key Linux Platform for Windows-Centric Businesses with gui
[09:40] <Morten_> So a system admin would see my computer showing up as "morten-unbuntu"
[09:40] <ubutom> fish: here you go :-)
[09:40] <ubutom> Apr 14 10:09:47 <bazhang>       fish if you remove quiet then we can see the exact errors you are getting
[09:40] <ubutom> Apr 14 10:10:21 <fish>  bazhang, and I have to do that in the GRUB boot loader using "e"
[09:40] <ubutom> Apr 14 10:10:32 <bazhang>       fish yes ;]
[09:40] <ubutom> Apr 14 10:11:35 <fish>  bazhang, lol, ok, im understanding... what parameters should i use?
[09:40] <ubutom> Apr 14 10:12:09 <bazhang>       fish try acpi=off remove quiet, and is this an ide or sata drive?
[09:40] <FloodBot2> ubutom: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:40] <ubutom> Apr 14 10:12:39 <bazhang>       fish then try all_generic_ide as well
[09:40] <unop> Morten_, do you mean your computer name/hostname?
[09:40] <charles035> for servers
[09:40] <ompaul> !paste | ubutom
[09:40] <ubotu> ubutom: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[09:40] <kona> gregory: have the other channel of /ubuntu#1 - Hardy Heron support open now - Thanks - really liking ubuntu - was using PCLOS 2007 for about 9 mos. - this is a good change - little different then KDE but it's nice - seems more solid, etc.
[09:40] <gregory> charles035: what sort of bussinesses?
[09:41] <fish> oh youre awesome ubuntom
[09:41] <fish> thank you
[09:41] <Morten_> unop, think its my hostname
[09:41] <unop> !hostname | Morten_  (see private message from ubotu)
[09:41] <ubotu> Morten_  (see private message from ubotu): Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[09:41] <simplexio> Morten_: do you those names which are visible in windows network shares ?
[09:41] <unop> bahh ..
[09:41] <gregory> kona: what matters most about linux is choice. just find your way
[09:42] <kona> gregory: yep - that's it what ever works and gets the job done - right/
[09:42] <charles035> I am looking to buy a full gui for our servers
[09:42] <fish> well, i really appreciate that ubutom, thank you for getting that for me
[09:42] <Morten_> simplexio, im not quite sure, the system admin just said that we had to make our laptops identify-able on the network
[09:42] <ShiroUsagi> Are there any other network ways of file sharing between two Gutsy machines except samba and ftp/http?
[09:42] <fish> i am gonna go try it now
[09:42] <gregory> charles035: what sort of servers?
[09:42] <Morten_> thx unop
[09:43] <ubutom> np fish  :-)
[09:43] <unop> ShiroUsagi, nfs
[09:43] <unop> ShiroUsagi, ssh / scp
[09:43] <simplexio> Morten_: i mean hostname dosent show before somone tryis to log in example with ssh
[09:43] <charles035> we are looking at ubuntu in france as for the usa
[09:43] <Morten_> simplexio, ohh ok, then it might not be hostname i have to change..
[09:44] <charles035> right now we are running red hat
[09:44] <ShiroUsagi> unop, Thanks, will nfs be available and browsable via "Network"?
[09:44] <unop_> charles035, maybe you need to be more specific about the GUI environment you are after.
[09:44] <Hermanon> hi , who to install the kernel-headers package i tried : linux-libc-dev , i've also tried sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:44] <gregory> charles035: well you have to determine what you need. for server questions also try #ubuntu-server
[09:45] <peter77> is there a utility to break ubuntu login passwords similar to ophcrack?
[09:45] <simplexio> Morten_: probably the right asnwer is install samba and define wins / netbios name
[09:45] <charles035> we hybride network we server back end and frond end windows
[09:45] <simplexio> Morten_: not really sure which one it is
[09:45] <Morten_> simplexio, okay thx, ill look in to it :)
[09:46] <CaptainMorgan> !LTS
[09:46] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[09:46] <charles035> we want to reselle it for all new server
[09:46] <CaptainMorgan> !Hardy
[09:46] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:46] <simplexio> peter77: yes. there is password carackers, but no idea how ophcrack works
[09:46] <unop_> ShiroUsagi, browsable - i don't think so, you'll need to know what nfs exports a server is exporting and mount them accordingly -- and nautilus handles nfs mounts, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[09:46] <CaptainMorgan> shucks... I thought it due out on 14th.. not the 24th.. bah
[09:46] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[09:46] <simplexio> peter77: problem is thought that you cant get that secret password to crack without root right :)
[09:46] <Hermanon>  hi , how to install the kernel-headers package i tried : linux-libc-dev , i've also tried sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:47] <peter77> simplexio, what tool would you recommend to crack a linux users password?
[09:47] <ShiroUsagi> unop_, Thanks a lot!
[09:47] <charles035> with ldap gui, samba, full raoming profile in worksration ,email intergreted
[09:47] <simplexio> peter77: i dont use, loong time ago there was crackerjack, but it was loooong time ago
[09:48] <gregory> charles035: i suggest you find out yourself on the web. this is the wrong channel for that, sorry.
[09:48] <unop_> Hermanon, sudo aptitude install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)  # should give you all you need
[09:49] <unop_> Hermanon, if you are still facing trouble, tell us exactly what you are facing. errors, behaviour, etc
[09:49] <charles035> I am sorry you are rigt
[09:49] <gregory> charles035: we cannot do bussiness consulting here, sorry
[09:50] <charles035> I tryed online can't find yet
[09:50] <charles035> sorry
[09:50] <charles035> bye
[09:50] <JPSman> How would one network two ubuntu's together using a CAT5 cable?
[09:50] <unop_> JPSman, the cable needs to be a cross-over cable
[09:50] <peter77> simplexio, hmm I have a feeling its going to be a lot harder to crack unix passwords than windows :-)
[09:50] <gregory> charles035: its very easy to find the information on google
[09:51] <unop_> JPSman, then it's just a matter of assigning IP addresses to both machines
[09:51] <unop_> charles035, you are looking for an RHEL server
[09:51] <Hermanon> unop_ ,i need the config.h file , i am compiling a kernel module ,it tells me the config.h is missing
[09:51] <Hias> hey guys
[09:51] <unop_> charles035, it has all the tools you need
[09:51] <mrbillgates> hey
[09:52] <Hias> anyone got an intel 965 gfx?
[09:52] <aty> hello
[09:52] <Hias> don't get it to work
[09:52] <hullap> hi
[09:52] <unop_> Hermanon, that's very vague, please use a !pastebin ( do not paste in here ) and show us what you have there
[09:52] <aty> what kind of hw raid card would you recommend for ubuntu server?
[09:52] <aty> which is really hardware
[09:52] <charles035> unop_
[09:52] <charles035> can we chat beside here
[09:53] <unop_> charles035, what's wrong with chatting in here?
[09:53] <gregory> !offtopic
[09:53] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:53] <scrimple101> hello, does anyone know what app will open .rar files?
[09:53] <charles035> everyone is telling me can't do it for business
[09:54] <unop_> !info rar | scrimple101
[09:54] <ubotu> scrimple101: rar (source: rar): Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7b1-2 (gutsy), package size 494 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[09:54] <unop_> !info unrar | scrimple101
[09:54] <ubotu> scrimple101: unrar (source: unrar-nonfree): Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1.1 (gutsy), package size 94 kB, installed size 232 kB
[09:54] <ompaul> gregory, please don't suggest to people to use google, by all means answer their question with a link you find there if you know it to be right
[09:54] <scrimple101> run that by me again just the app name
[09:55] <charles035> unop_
[09:55] <scrimple101> is that unrar?
[09:55] <ompaul> charles035, put the info unop_ asked for on a pastebin and give unop_ the url ;-)
[09:55] <hyperstream> hhey guys
[09:56] <charles035> I need management server gui
[09:56] <hyperstream> ive basicly installed 7.10 done the updates- did the restricted nvidia drivers
[09:56] <hyperstream> and i have 2 dual monitors when using scrrens and graphics to set it up
[09:56] <hyperstream> i can located the monitor modles
[09:56] <Hermanon> !pastebin
[09:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[09:56] <unop_> charles035, the thing is most servers don't need GUIs because they aren't machines you sit at like with desktops -- ubuntu servers can serve windows machines quite well (especially your requirements) -- although it doesn't give you the microsoft-windows-gui-like-tools to administer the server, afaik, only RHEL and SLED have those tools
[09:56] <charles035> were do send my info and how
[09:57] <knightWse> @hyperstream : check out howtoforge , they just posted a howto on your problem
[09:57] <hyperstream> but on my Default screen the resolution is huge yet my screen only displays a section of it, and by moving my mouse around the edge orf my scrren it then scrools over the Default's viewing space
[09:57] <hyperstream> it also seems interlaced
[09:57] <buggmaster> how i get rid of x from running
[09:57] <hyperstream> oo
[09:57] <hyperstream> giwtifirge >
[09:57] <hyperstream> how to forge ?
[09:58] <unop_> buggmaster, stop X from starting at all ?
[09:58] <Hermanon> unop_ ,sorry i didn't understand whats !pastebin
[09:58] <buggmaster> yes
[09:58] <JPSman> unop_: how can I send files from one to the other?
[09:58] <hyperstream> knightWse,  i dont follow mmate
[09:58] <buggmaster> i can kill it, just comes right back
[09:58] <LSD|Ninja> buggmaster: install from a server CD :P
[09:58] <buggmaster> i did, i read a wrong doc that installed desktop on server :/
[09:58] <unop_> Hermanon, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org < go here
[09:58] <buggmaster> pissed me off big time, let me tell you
[09:58] <unop_> JPSman, be a little more specific please
[09:59] <charles035> I am in the link
[09:59] <unop_> buggmaster, do you want to remove all the gnome packages? or leave them be and just have a non-GUI enabled system?
[10:00] <knightWse> @hyperstream : On howtoforge,com there is an article giving you detailed instructions on how to set it up right
[10:00] <buggmaster> anything that will give me my resources back, i dont need gui, all i use is remote command line
[10:00] <ompaul> buggmaster, sudo apt-get install rcconf and use that program to "turn off gdm" and then do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop << sorted
[10:00] <hyperstream> ty
[10:00] <unop_> buggmaster, sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults stop
[10:01] <ompaul> unop_, remind me to bring my brain ;-)
[10:01] <unop_> buggmaster, that'll stop if from starting at bootup .. but to kill it immediately too.  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:01] <unop_> ompaul, nothing wrong with rcconf :)
[10:02] <buggmaster> that update-rc.d thing spit back problems.. sec
[10:02] <buggmaster> update-rc.d: error: codenumber must be a number between 0 and 99
[10:02] <buggmaster> 7.10 if that matters
[10:02] <Hermanon> unop_,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63149/plain/
[10:04] <unop_> buggmaster, hmm, maybe i got it wrong.  try this. sudo update-rc.d gdm stop 20 1-5
[10:04] <iQ-Zer0> unop_,  wats that ?
[10:05] <buggmaster> update-rc.d: error: expected runlevel [0-9S] (did you forget "." ?)
[10:05] <Hermanon>  unop_,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63149/plain/     i've pasted what i get here
[10:06] <unop_> Hermanon, hmm, are you trying to compile a kernel ?
[10:06] <tim167> whats a good calendar software ?
[10:06] <unop_> buggmaster, try the last command with a . appended
[10:06] <ubutom> evolution i guess, am not using it tho, tim167
[10:06] <unop_> iQ-Zer0, whats what?
[10:06] <buggmaster> appedned to who?
[10:07] <kelvin911> is there VNC server in ubuntu?
[10:07] <gregory> tim167: try evolution
[10:07] <Hermanon>  unop_,  i am trying to compile a kernel module: a modem driver
[10:07] <tim167> ubutom: i used to use sunbird, but its still icky to install, looking for a better solution, also is it possible to sync to google calendar ?
[10:08] <buggmaster> i found this
[10:08] <buggmaster> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:08] <buggmaster> stops it
[10:08] <tim167> gregory: i thought evolution an email client in the first place ?
[10:08] <buggmaster> now how to remove it, ill delete the file if i have too lol
[10:08] <LSD|Ninja> Evo does have the advantage of being a part of the Ubuntu base but it's probably a bit heavy if all you want is a Calendar...
[10:08] <unop_> Hermanon, ok, there might be things you need to do before running make - see the README and/or INSTALL files in the source directory
[10:08] <gregory> tim167: yes, but also calendar, just start it up and see if if suits your needs
[10:08] <unop_> buggmaster, bahh, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[10:08] <charles035> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63150/
[10:09] <ubutom> tim167, dunno about syncing, but in case of sunbird, there is an addon for thunderbird too, its called lightning. will be integrated in thunderbird soon
[10:09] <charles035> unop_
[10:09] <charles035> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63150/
[10:09] <buzzsaw> with a default LAMP install were would i find the directory for my apache server?
[10:09] <bluecake> if firefox's form box, it shows my previous search entries, how to auto complete that, so i don't have to type the whole thing again?
[10:09] <tim167> ok thanks guys, ill look into evolution ...
[10:09] <kelvin911> which VNC server should i use in ubuntu?
[10:10] <Hermanon> 3.  INSTALLATION
[10:10] <Hermanon> Prerequisites:
[10:10] <Hermanon>    1. root access
[10:10] <Hermanon>    2. bash shell to run install scripts
[10:10] <Hermanon>    3. an Intel536ep modem
[10:10] <Hermanon>    4. KERNEL SOURCE HEADERS FOR THE KERNEL YOU ARE RUNNING.
[10:10] <FloodBot2> Hermanon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <Hermanon> sorry i didn't mean to flood
[10:11] <unop_> Hermanon, please don't do that - you just used a pastebin
[10:11] <ubutom> welcome to the club Hermanon :-)
[10:11] <hyperstream> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". -- when i run xrandr -q
[10:11] <ubutom> I wanted to msg someone earlier and flooded the channel :-/
[10:11] <unop_> charles035, i really think you need to read something about red hat enterprise linux - http://www.redhat.com/rhel
[10:12] <Hermanon>  unop_  ,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63154/ here is my readme.txt file
[10:13] <charles035> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63155/
[10:14] <icesword> Hermanon, wht's up dude
[10:14] <charles035> I talk to redhat for waht need it the say they do want to deal Microsoft at all
[10:14] <charles035> we need hypride server
[10:15] <charles035> I love too use Ubuntu or redhat
[10:15] <iQ-Zer0> hybrid*
[10:15] <unop> charles035, hybrid server? is that what you mean?
[10:15] <hyperstream> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". -- when i run xrandr -q ?
[10:15] <buggmaster> ||
[10:15] <unop> charles035, describe this hybrid server exactly. what is it, what will it do. what will it run, etc?
[10:16] <charles035> back end linux front end windows with all ldap
[10:16] <puppetmaster> my nvidia driver crashed when I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04
[10:16] <charles035> samba
[10:16] <puppetmaster> I can't use Envy. So, what should I do?
[10:16] <Hermanon> unop_  ,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63154/ here is a part of  my readme.txt file
[10:16] <Bollinger> my syslog kern.log and messages are 3.2GB each. Can I just delete them, or should I make them rollover then delete them?
[10:17] <unop> charles035, red hat does that fine - although they will not give you support for the windows part of your infrastructure and they'll be less than willing to support you where you linux servers work together with windows ones -- but everything you just described, RHEL does
[10:17] <gregory> Bollinger: they are log files. if you dont need anymore you can del them
[10:17] <charles035> ok
[10:17] <Bollinger> gregory: ok thanks.
[10:19] <puppetmaster> So. what should I do guys? Is there an Envy for Hardy 8.04 ?
[10:19] <charles035> We need support we need gui we want get rig of microsoft server may even the fron dend too  if can
[10:20] <unop> Hermanon, from what i can see, the makefile requires these two files - /boot/vmlinuz.autoconf.h and /boot/vmlinuz.version.h - but these are not standard and not part of any ubuntu/debian package - you might like to scour forums for more on how to get this compiled on debian/ubuntu
[10:20] <ubutom> puppetmaster, why dont you install the driver manually?
[10:20] <puppetmaster> I did installed the restricted drivers
[10:20] <unop> !envy
[10:20] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See ┬½ /msg ubotu binarydriver ┬╗
[10:21] <puppetmaster> but it's not fully function
[10:21] <Hermanon> thanks  unop
[10:21] <puppetmaster> it hasn't got the resolution 1024├Ś768
[10:21] <puppetmaster> and it has crashed my emerald
[10:21] <jerknextdoor_> can anyone help me with mounting an external in 7.10?
[10:22] <charles035> The Xandros Management Console (xMC) for ubuntu or red hat server
[10:23] <Sinnerman> jerknextdoor_: what are you mounting?
[10:24] <bullgard4> What is the service that is provided by the GNOME 'Service' System > Administration > Services > (Service Settings) > 'Audio settings management (alsa-utils)' to the operating system or user?
[10:25] <knightWse> I would like to run an script in my crontab , but how do i do that ?
[10:25] <void^> bullgard4: see /etc/init.d/alsa-utils - saves/restores audio volume/mixer levels
[10:25] <knightWse> do i just say 1 0 0 0  root /home/scripts/script.sh
[10:25] <knightWse> or do i need to formulate it differently
[10:26] <JPSman> uh - im just trying to get a file from one ubuntu computer to another over a network cable
[10:27] <vladi_> I have two cards: eth0 (dhcp assigns ip) and eth1. eth1 has a static ip.
[10:27] <ichinpogs1> hi guys
[10:28] <ichinpogs1> hi guys can you help me how kopete webcam works i only got blue image insted of my face show wing in the web cam...
[10:28] <ichinpogs1> hi guys can you help me how kopete webcam works i only got blue image insted of my face show wing in the web cam...
[10:28] <FloodBot2> ichinpogs1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:28] <vladi_>  /etc/network/interfaces has lines has iface eth1 inet static and address 192.168.0.1 but after reboot there's no ip address attached to eth1
[10:28] <unop> Knight488, that cronjob is invalid if you are to use that job as a non-root user .. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron#Usage
[10:29] <unop> vladi_, does the file also have "auto eth1" enabled?
[10:30] <bullgard4> void^: Excellent! Now I understand. Up to now I was misled because  the identifier 'alsa-utils' has two different meanings. --  Thank you very much.
[10:30] <vladi_> I don't see:cat /etc/network/interfaces
[10:30] <vladi_> auto lo
[10:30] <vladi_> iface lo inet loopback
[10:30] <vladi_> iface dsl-provider inet ppp
[10:30] <vladi_> pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf
[10:30] <FloodBot2> vladi_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:30] <vladi_> provider dsl-provider
[10:30] <unop> !paste | vladi_
[10:30] <ubotu> vladi_: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[10:32] <hyperstream> knightWse, that howto didnt work
[10:32] <icesword> so other partition edit tools for linux?
[10:32] <vladi_> :-) sorry
[10:32] <hyperstream> as in followed it step for step- no results
[10:32] <kameleonnnm> hi, i need simple web server with gui cofiguration for my ubuntu desktop
[10:32] <iQ-Zer0> i am having trouble configuring cups.. the windows users cant see my printer :S
[10:33] <tim167> trying to use Evolution, created account with correct info for pop mail enter correct password...etc, but i get "Unable to connect to POP server" can anyone help ?
[10:33] <ubutom> kameleonnnm, try XAMPP
[10:34] <tim167> it does work with Thunderbird with exactly the same info
[10:34] <kameleonnnm> thx, i will
[10:35] <vladi_> unop, eth1 with no ip after reboot. I'll try to add auto eth1 to it. I hope It'll help.
[10:35] <unop_> vladi_, if "auto eht1" does not exist, eth1 is not brought up and as a consequence won't have an ip address
[10:35] <icesword> so other partition  tools for linux?
[10:36] <unop_> icesword, fdisk, cfdisk, sfdisk
[10:36] <icesword> unop_, naaa,thx,
[10:37] <unop_> icesword, naaa? looking for something pretty and dysfunctional? :)
[10:37] <icesword> don't know if they will manage windows and linux well,thx
[10:37] <tim167> Evolution doesnt have the "port" setting for my pop mail, like thunderbird does, how can i set this ?
[10:37] <void^> icesword: they manage partitions. partitions don't care about operating systems.
[10:39] <unop_> icesword, what are you looking to do really? resize paritions or just create them?
[10:39] <unop_> tim167, does your pop server listen on a non-standard port, if not evolution chooses the right default (110)
[10:40] <buzzsaw> i did an    apt-get install ubuntu-desktop but i dont want x to start every time how do i stop it?
[10:40] <unop_> buzzsaw,  sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[10:40] <buzzsaw> thanks :-)
[10:40] <erUSUL> tim167: server:port ?
[10:41] <unop_> buzzsaw, also. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:41] <bullgard4> Using the mc built-in file viewer, how can I copy a string of displayed text into the clipboard?
[10:41] <unop_> bullgard4, i dont think mc interacts with the x and gnome clipboards
[10:41] <spiderfire> mc?
[10:42] <bullgard4> unop_: I see.
[10:42] <void^> bullgard4: mc is a console application, right? it would depend on your terminal then.
[10:42] <spiderfire> is there a console pdf reader?
[10:42] <icesword> unop_, some friends asked me for help,he want to resize partition,he uses windows,and he said he doesn't want to use pirated warez,that's all thing
[10:42] <bullgard4> void^: Let it depend on my terminal. I use to operate my mc in a Gnome terminal.
[10:43] <Pirate_Hunter> insta conky supposed to run constantly? it seems if i have programs open it doesnt update constantly its laggy i would say, how can i fix this when its meant to update every 1.5 scs
[10:43] <gregory> spiderfire: no, pdf is graphics designed
[10:43] <gregory> spiderfire: you can still use
[10:43] <Pirate_Hunter> !gparted | icesword
[10:43] <ubotu> icesword: GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type ┬½ sudo apt-get install gparted ┬╗ in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[10:43] <gregory> spiderfire: a tool, which extracts the text info out of the pdf and view that on the console
[10:44] <spiderfire> hmm
[10:44] <void^> bullgard4: it probably has a keyboard shortcut for copy&paste stuff, just check the menu. you just can't do things like selecting multiple pages of text and copying it at once.
[10:44] <icesword> Pirate_Hunter, thx’╝īsir
[10:44] <tim167> erUSUL: unop_: nm , my bad, i entered just my name for 'username' instead of my email address, it would be less confusing if it asked for 'email address' instead of 'user name'....
[10:45] <Pirate_Hunter> instaconky supposed to run constantly? it seems if i have programs open it doesnt update constantly its laggy i would say, how can i fix this when its meant to update every 1.5 scs?
[10:45] <Pirate_Hunter> dam morning spelling
[10:46] <vladi_> unop_: thank you. It did! I've read a dozen howtos about internet sharing I could find. None mentioned it. It worked but until rebooting...you're clever :-)
[10:46] <Pirate_Hunter> *inst conky supposed to run constantly? it seems if i have programs open it doesnt update constantly its laggy i would say, how can i fix this when its meant to update every 1.5 scs?
[10:46] <awmcclain> Ug. I've screwed up my pgp signing: I've created a public/private key, but I've somehow screwed up my passphrase. How do I delete the key from my keyring?
[10:46] <bullgard4> void^: Let me re-read mc's manpage and check.
[10:47] <un0p> vladi_, :)
[10:47] <void^> bullgard4: i meant gnome-terminal's menu/shortcut
[10:48] <kevin7kal> I have a strange intermittent problem.  Sometimes after a restart and login to the gnome desktop the font size of my kde apps are very very very small.
[10:48] <kevin7kal> I try qtconfig-qt4, though I can change them their, I only see a small difference
[10:49] <kevin7kal> any ideas on how this can be fixed?
[10:49] <bullgard4> void^: Ah!
[10:49] <jerknextdoor_> anyone install gimp 2.5 yet?
[10:50] <compwiz18> Anyone have any idea why the rear USB ports on my computer work fine, while a hub plugged into a rear port doesn't work well with mass storage devices (ie, they have read errors) and also the front usb ports have the same problem?
[10:51] <Ziroday> compwiz18: because they do not have enough power
[10:51] <compwiz18> Ziroday: even though it is a powered hub? I'd agree - when I googled the error, that seemed to be the common conclusion, but I'm not sure...
[10:51] <goran> so this is where you ask for help when youre a noob?
[10:51] <Pirate_Hunter> inst conky supposed to run constantly? it seems if i have programs open it doesnt update constantly its laggy i would say, how can i fix this when its meant to update every 1.5 scs?
[10:52] <compwiz18> Ziroday: so I guess my point is, is there a way to provide more power to them?
[10:52] <jerknextdoor_> goran: depends on how noob you are.  but yes.
[10:52] <goran> well im no stranger to computers in general but in terms of ubuntu i only have a few hours under my belt
[10:52] <Ziroday> compwiz18: providing more power to the usb ports is very difficult and will probably be a hardware fix instead of software
[10:53] <compwiz18> Ziroday: I understand that: why would a powered USB hub not have enough power though?
[10:53] <jerknextdoor_> goran:  well, what are you looking for maybe i can help.  if not i'm sure someone can
[10:53] <Ziroday> compwiz18: not sure :), is the power external or from another usb port?
[10:53] <un0p> compwiz18, the hub could be malfunctioning
[10:53] <compwiz18> Ziroday: external, as in a power block
[10:53] <goran> well im looking to figure out how to install Football Manager08 - but i have two little more crucial issues with my screen and my external usb drive
[10:54] <cpham> is there anyone can help me with grub problem?
[10:54] <kooot> or your power supply may not be large enough to support everything in your computer.
[10:54] <Ziroday> ask | cpham
[10:54] <compwiz18> un0p: perhaps, although the printer that is plugged into it works fine...
[10:54] <cpham> i have install XP
[10:54] <compwiz18> although it does have its own power
[10:54] <icesword> use the trigger
[10:54] <cpham> and then install Ubuntu
[10:54] <jerknextdoor_> goran:  external drives i cant help you with.  i'm having a similar problem the last few days with an external not mounting...(even though it will any other day).
[10:54] <un0p> compwiz18, are the mass storage devices self-powering too?
[10:55] <cpham> but only gone through the first step
[10:55] <compwiz18> un0p: one is, one is a thumb drive
[10:55] <cpham> after that it only boot to Windows Xp
[10:55] <un0p> compwiz18, and both don't work?
[10:55] <cpham> so i decided to install grub to MBR
[10:55] <hyperstream> any tips on how to get Dual Monitors working successfully with each monitor having its own resolution and having it as a Addition to the current MAIN SCREEN desktop ? (NVIDIA)
[10:55] <cpham> and now it stop booting to anything
[10:55] <compwiz18> un0p: correct
[10:55] <compwiz18> un0p: although, some days they work better then others :/
[10:55] <buzzsaw> how do i make it were when i do apt-get install    it does not try to pull from the cd?
[10:55] <erUSUL> !twinview
[10:55] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[10:55] <icesword> !grub > cpham
[10:56] <un0p> compwiz18, do the devices work fine without the hub?
[10:56] <goran> jerknextdoor_: well how about the installation of FM08 - so i can at least keep busy while I find the solution to the other probs.
[10:56] <jerknextdoor_> goran:  and there seems to be a decent amount of football manager 08 install stuff in the forums.
[10:56] <buzzsaw> my computer is in the other room   and i wont want to have to run back and forth to put the cd in
[10:56] <compwiz18> un0p: yeah, the thumb drive works perfectly when plugged in the back, and I get read errors in dmesg when its plugged in the front or in the hub
[10:56] <jerknextdoor_> goran:  i'm not familiar with the program so i don tknow much about it.  what's the problem you're having?
[10:56] <un0p> compwiz18, how about the other mass storage device?
[10:57] <kooot> potentially a bad usb port.
[10:57] <compwiz18> un0p: same thing, read errors when plugged in the front or the hub
[10:57] <compwiz18> un0p: altough now the thumb drive appears to be working fine when plugged in the front...
[10:58] <cpham> icesword: i have two hard drive, Ubuntu and XP in sdb, would it matter?
[10:58] <un0p> compwiz18, i'd say you have a problem with both your hub and the front ports - did you assemble this pc?
[10:58] <cpham> icesword: the sda just empty at the moment
[10:58] <goran> jerknextdoor_: i have an alcohol image (mdf/mds file) and am kinda clueless about how i install the game itself. i've seen some software for converting the mds/mdf to iso but i cant really get that to work either
[10:58] <compwiz18> un0p: yep :)
[10:58] <compwiz18> probably my fault somewhere :P
[10:58] <ubutom> compwiz18, the manual of my motherboard says that i cant use 2 of the rear usb-ports if i connect them with the frontpanel, for example.
[10:59] <kooot> did the front usb come in seperate wires, such as power, etc.  Or did it just come as one plug.
[10:59] <un0p> compwiz18, well, i'd make sure that the USB ports are connected upto the motherboard properly
[10:59] <compwiz18> un0p: yeah, although now it seems to be working :/
[10:59] <compwiz18> although I did unplug the hub
[10:59] <kooot> because if they are seperate wires one can get placed wrong.
[10:59] <compwiz18> maybe it doesn't like the hub or something?
[10:59] <lordleemo> goran: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3637536&postcount=39
[10:59] <compwiz18> kooot: I think its just one plug
[11:00] <kooot> yeah, I figured if its newer.
[11:00] <goran> lordleemo: thanks. ill try this right away
[11:00] <un0p> compwiz18, well, thing is, device could still work despite the ports being connected up wrong, especially the connections for power
[11:00] <lordleemo> goran: your welcome i dont use it myself but the link looks ok
[11:01] <kooot> Might want to try the hub on the back usb ports, and if it doesn't work then, I think you have narrowed down your problem
[11:01] <compwiz18> alright, I'll pop the case off and try a different usb header or something
[11:01] <compwiz18> kooot: the hub is plugged into the back ports ;)
[11:01] <kooot> ok.
[11:01] <kooot> then I will just shut up.  haha
[11:02] <compwiz18> haha
[11:02] <compwiz18> I wonder if the hub is the problem
[11:02] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me with conky?
[11:02] <compwiz18> having unplugged the hub, everything is working fine...
[11:03] <compwiz18> yes
[11:03] <compwiz18> I plugged the hub in and things went south
[11:04] <compwiz18> device descriptor read/64, error -110
[11:05] <compwiz18> this is a good discovery
[11:05] <Pirate_Hunter> cna someone help me get conky working
[11:06] <compwiz18> Pirate_Hunter: what exactly isn't working about it?
[11:06]  * compwiz18 runs off to find another USB cable to try with the hub
[11:06] <Gpalco> Guys, anyone ever used The
[11:06] <Gpalco> Guys, anyone ever used The Launcher Applet ???
[11:07] <compwiz18> Gpalco: the gnome panel one?
[11:07] <hyperstream> ive followed two guides for nvidia twinview both failing to work, or even show the logo at the login screenm the only way i had success in achiving what i wanted was with the screens and graphics option within ubuntu admin section: Only issue is, my MAIN monitor is running at the right resolution but seem ZOOMED IN, as i move my mouse it moves the ZOOM around my main desktop, any idea's ?
[11:07] <gregory> Gpalco: !ask
[11:07] <compwiz18> !ask | Gpalco
[11:07] <ubotu> Gpalco: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[11:07] <gregory> !ask | Gpalco
[11:07] <compwiz18> ;)
[11:07] <csaba> what's the name of that console chat application, where i write something like "chat 192.168.0.33" to talk with another person on the local network, over console?
[11:08] <Pirate_Hunter> compwiz18: conky doesnt update frequently when i have programs running, if i keep everything closed conky gives me real time update instead of interval update which is laggy
[11:08] <Pirate_Hunter> compwiz18: how can i fix this?
[11:08] <Gpalco> compwiz18,  The Launcher Applet http://www.alte.ru/thelauncher/  YES Right. I cannot add it to the PANNEL !
[11:08] <Laibsch> join #ubuntu-de
[11:09] <gregory> csaba: maybe "talk"?
[11:09] <csaba> hmm talk is not installed by default, i need sudo privileges... is there something that is installed?
[11:10] <nationdemon> Hello, I've tried the ubuntu live cd and it works fine on two pcs the third crashes on starting hald or if i use noapic kerneloption (during boot) it kernel panics on bluetooth. no bluethooth installed, no option found on bios. mobo: asus k8v se deluxe, bios is up2date (tried several versions), any idea?
[11:10] <compwiz18> csaba: if you aren't too picky, you can use netcat, I think
[11:10] <nationdemon> and it happend with gutsy and hardy ...
[11:10] <compwiz18> you'll have to be clever though :)
[11:10] <gregory> csaba: your sudo password == user password
[11:10] <Gpalco> compwiz18,  I installed it as an applet and it is in the applets folder, It is NOT on the list and I cannot add it to the PANNEL
[11:11] <Gpalco> gregory, compwiz18,  I installed it as an applet and it is in the applets folder, It is NOT on the list and  cannot add it to the PANNEL
[11:11] <compwiz18> Gpalco: where is the applets folder?
[11:11] <rsmith16384> hello
[11:11] <rsmith16384> can anyone tell me if its possible to run virtualbox on hardy?
[11:11] <Gpalco> gregory, compwiz18, /usr/lib/gnome-applets
[11:11] <Pirate_Hunter> rsmith16384, hi
[11:11] <gregory> rsmith16384: its possible
[11:11] <Pirate_Hunter> Gpalco, yes it is ive done it
[11:12] <Pirate_Hunter> oops
[11:12] <compwiz18> Gpalco: did you run the install.py file in the tar.gz file?
[11:12] <rsmith16384> do you think i would have any problems running freenas virtualized?
[11:12] <compwiz18> brb
[11:12] <Pirate_Hunter> rsmith16384: dont know try it and find out
[11:12] <Gpalco> gregory, compwiz18, Yes I did. And it even asked for password in the process
[11:13] <rsmith16384> i went to the virtualbox download page and i dont see a version for hardy
[11:13] <rsmith16384> does that mean i will need to compile it myself and if so will i loose usb function?
[11:13] <Gpalco> Pirate_Hunter, gregory, I installed it as an applet and it is in the applets folder, It is NOT on the list and  cannot add it to the PANNEL
[11:13] <rsmith16384> cause of the liscensing?
[11:14] <Pirate_Hunter> rsmith16384: of course you wont it still beta but you cna run it cause i have just choose linux kernel 2.6 and install
[11:14] <rsmith16384> do you have usb?
[11:14] <gregory> rsmith16384: vb OSE comes prepackaged in the hardy rsoftware stack
[11:14] <rsmith16384> my raid vols are external usb
[11:14] <Gpalco> Pirate_Hunter, gregory, compwiz18, is there kind of regestrar of gnome-applets ?
[11:15] <ubuntu--newbie> Hallo Guys. I jusy installed Ubuntu 8.04 and my wireless card (broadcom) doesn't seem to work. Any help would be appreciated.
[11:15] <Pirate_Hunter> Gpalco: sorry could you tell me your problem since compwiz was helping you if i cna help ill di so
[11:15] <DRebellion> ubuntu--newbie, /join #ubuntu+1
[11:15] <gregory> !bc ┬½ ubuntu--newbie
[11:15] <gregory> !bc | ubuntu--newbie
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <erUSUL> !broadcom | ubuntu--newbie
[11:15] <ubotu> ubuntu--newbie: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[11:15] <Pirate_Hunter> ubuntu--newbie: go to #ubuntu+1
[11:15] <Varka> rsmith16384, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/virtualbox#
[11:15] <ubuntu--newbie> ok
[11:15] <DRebellion> !help > gregory
[11:15]  * Antti !weather, !kernel, !sysinfo, !sms
[11:15] <Varka> rsmith16384, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/virtualbox
[11:15] <rsmith16384> cool thanks
[11:16] <Varka> rsmith16384, its already in the repos for hardy
[11:17] <rsmith16384> from what i undersand ose wont allow my usb to work
[11:17] <Pirate_Hunter> Varka: but he was getting it from the site as .deb it shouldn't make a different as long as he gets the latest version there
[11:17] <ubuntu--newbie> no one seem to reply me in #ubuntu+1
[11:17] <DRebellion> ubuntu--newbie, that's no excuse for asking about hardy in here
[11:18] <Gpalco> Pirate_Hunter, I installed The Launcher Applet as a gnome-applet and it is in the applets folder (/usr/lib/gnome-applets), but It is NOT on the list of available applets and thus I cannot add it to the PANNEL. Have you managed to add it to the pannel. What did you do?
[11:18] <rsmith16384> guess i just have to burn up 230watts until they make the binary for hardy
[11:18] <ubuntu--newbie> well i am not asking abt hardy in particular...I knw there is some hardware incompatibilty...with broadcom cards..
[11:18] <ubuntu--newbie> So i am looking for help..
[11:18] <ubuntu--newbie> i am new to ubuntu
[11:18] <ubuntu--newbie> Just switched from XP
[11:19] <rsmith16384> congrats newbie
[11:19] <Varka> Pirate_Hunter, as long as there isnt any particular need for another (newer) version, first look should always be at the repo version
[11:20] <ubuntu--newbie> and btw There is nothing called "restrictured driver manager" under my System> admin
[11:20] <alastair_> hullo. I'm trying to use sftp from a perl script because the Net::SFTP module doesn't work. man sftp says I can use "-b -" to specify a batchfile as read from stdin, but it doesn't specify the format of it. I can create a batchfile with one command per line but it'd be easier to just concatenate a string for the system call...
[11:20] <Pirate_Hunter> this is absured something keeps killing my net connection and i dont know what, how do i go about finding out which app is stopping me from browsing the net "yet xchat still works"?
[11:20] <Pirate_Hunter> Varka: true that true that
[11:20] <alastair_> So my question is what should this look like?
[11:20] <f0rmat> i was just wondering whether anyone here knows how i could get my NetGear WG111T usb 2.0 adapter to work on ubuntu the driver disk i got contains only .exe's no .inf's
[11:21] <rsmith16384> pirat something on port 80?
[11:21] <ubuntu--newbie> Why dont I see any "Restrictred Driver Manager"?
[11:21] <Pirate_Hunter> Gpalco: i'm not sure i understand what youve done and i cant browse the net at the moment since i need to figure out whats stoping my browsers from surfing
[11:21] <icesword> cpham_, you problem fixed?
[11:21] <Pirate_Hunter> rsmith16384: hmmmm :/
[11:22] <rsmith16384> try going to a page that uses different port
[11:22] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: what version of ubuntu are you using
[11:22] <ubuntu--newbie> 8.04
[11:22] <rsmith16384> i can provide one on port 16384 if you cant find one
[11:22] <ubuntu--newbie> i have something called driver manager
[11:22] <ubuntu--newbie> is it the same?
[11:23] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: 1.) it's a beta release 2.) it's disscussed in the channel #ubuntu+1 3.) are you using any hardware that needs restricted drivers
[11:23] <ubuntu--newbie> ukonia -- I think so. I am use Broadcomm wireless card
[11:23] <Pirate_Hunter> so no one knows how to identify what might cause browsers from going online o_0?
[11:23] <ubuntu--newbie> and it doesnt work
[11:23] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: join #ubuntu+1
[11:23] <ikonia> PriceChild: whats the question ?
[11:23] <ikonia> PriceChild: sorry
[11:23] <Gpalco> Pirate_Hunter, from your post I read that you installed and used The Launcher Applet as a gnome-applet. Is it right ?
[11:23] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: whats the question
[11:23] <ubuntu--newbie> Ikonia - i did ..but no one is replying
[11:24] <nationdemon> There to ask questions about the live/install-cd?
[11:24] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: then wait in there for a response
[11:24] <ubuntu--newbie> its empty
[11:24] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: it's not empty
[11:24] <rsmith16384> pirate im going to get you one brb
[11:24] <ubuntu--newbie> i mean -- there are people but they arent active i suppose
[11:24] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: then wait in there for them to be active
[11:24] <ubuntu--newbie> ok
[11:24] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: that is the channel for hardy
[11:24] <ubuntu--newbie> and this one is for?
[11:24] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: can you give a quick summary of the problem ?
[11:25] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: ubuntu stable releases
[11:25] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: just FYI: the beta releases are not meant for "new linux users"
[11:25] <Pirate_Hunter> Gpalco, ikonia: nope i just have something in ubuntu that seems to be killing my net connection :/ xchat still works but my browsers dont, transmission doesnt and it is annoying me, i thought it was a glitch but it isnt
[11:25] <rsmith16384> http://voidmain.is-a-geek.net:81/
[11:25] <rsmith16384> pirat try that
[11:25] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: ok, so some applications are working on the net, others are not ?
[11:25] <ubuntu--newbie> ikonia = but after 10 days..it will no longer be beta...am i right? So does things really change in 10 days:?
[11:26] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: they can do
[11:26] <mask> hi folks
[11:26] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: the last release they did
[11:26] <ikonia> mask: hello
[11:26] <rsmith16384> that uses different port
[11:26] <ubuntu--newbie> so it it like constantly changing?
[11:26] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: yes
[11:26] <ubuntu--newbie> oh i didnt know that
[11:26] <HyperStream> !twinview
[11:26] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[11:27] <ubuntu--newbie> so after 10 days...if i can connect to the internet..will my version get all those new updates automatically?
[11:27] <mask> im looking for a software that can compare two source code files and can show the differences in ubuntu, can anyone suggest me one
[11:27] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: should o
[11:27] <ikonia> do
[11:27] <ubuntu--newbie> ok
[11:27] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: yeha xchat is but browsers arent
[11:27] <ikonia> mask: "diff", man diff
[11:27] <rsmith16384> pirate any luck with http://voidmain.is-a-geek.net:81/
[11:27] <xpoint> mask, diff -u file1 file2 | less
[11:27] <mask> let me check
[11:27] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: how about core OS functions, like an nslookup, ping, traceroute etc etc
[11:28] <f0rmat> ok can anyone tell me where i can find a utility that will allow me to scan for networks
[11:28] <ubuntu--newbie> Will it be possible to install...Vmware and install XP inside ubuntu to get the...Wireless working>
[11:28] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: how do i go about checking those since i have never used them
[11:28] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: inside ubunut ? no
[11:28] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: ok, from a shell do a few domain lookups, "nslookup domain.com"
[11:28] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: then try pinging a few hosts "ping www.domain.com"
[11:28] <ubuntu--newbie> ikonia = yes I mean using virtual machine
[11:29] <ikonia> ubuntu--newbie: not if its not working on the ubuntu host
[11:29] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: then traceroute a few boxes "traceroute www.domain.com"
[11:29] <ubuntu--newbie> ikonia - ic
[11:29] <noob123456> can anyone assit with RAID setup ?
[11:29] <ikonia> noob123456: what's up
[11:29] <ubuntu--newbie> thanks...i'll see if i get any help abt my card from the other room
[11:29] <ubuntu--newbie> :)
[11:30] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: traceroute isnt installed
[11:30] <rsmith16384> noob software or hardware>
[11:30] <noob123456> got mdadm to create array, but only show 700GB in the dev
[11:30] <rsmith16384> ?
[11:30] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: ok, nslookup and ping will do
[11:30] <noob123456> software
[11:30] <ikonia> noob123456: ok, how many device, how big etc
[11:30] <noob123456> got 4 x 1TB disks
[11:30] <rsmith16384> damn!
[11:30] <noob123456> should get 2.8 TB in raid 5 ?
[11:30] <rsmith16384> how much that set you back>
[11:30] <ikonia> noob123456: please paste /cat/proc/mdstat
[11:30] <noob123456> I dint pay, its for the company I work for
[11:31] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: ping came as unknown host nslookup came as ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[11:31] <rsmith16384> sounds about right
[11:31] <noob123456> ikonia, dont understand
[11:31] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: there is the problem
[11:31] <ikonia> noob123456: type "cat /proc/mdstat" and paste the output into a pastebin
[11:31] <noob123456> k
[11:31] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia, o_0 what is the problem?
[11:31] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: please show me the file /etc/resolv.conf
[11:32] <noob123456> ikonia:  Personalities : [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10]
[11:32] <noob123456> md0 : active raid5 sdd[3] sdc[2] sdb[1] sda[0]
[11:32] <noob123456>       2930287488 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/4] [UUUU]
[11:32] <noob123456>       [[11:32] <noob123456>       
[11:32] <FloodBot2> noob123456: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:32] <noob123456> unused devices: <none>
[11:32] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia, sorry cnat use pastebin going to do it here - ### BEGIN INFO
[11:32] <Pirate_Hunter> #
[11:32] <Pirate_Hunter> # Modified_by:  NetworkManager
[11:32] <Pirate_Hunter> # Process:      /usr/bin/NetworkManager
[11:32] <Pirate_Hunter> # Process_id:   4965
[11:32] <Pirate_Hunter> #
[11:32] <FloodBot2> Pirate_Hunter: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:32] <ikonia> noob123456: it's still building the array
[11:32] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: one moment, we got flooded
[11:32] <rsmith16384> i tried softraid with debian once, i remember having to format them as software raid, and mounting them as loopback devices
[11:33] <ikonia> noob123456: I said use the pastebin
[11:33] <noob123456> so will it display the full disk space once it has built ?
[11:33] <ikonia> rsmith16384: his array is still building thats why
[11:33] <noob123456> k
[11:33] <ikonia> noob123456: how do you know it's only showing 700
[11:33] <ikonia> noob123456: what have you done to show this ?
[11:33] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: seems like ban has been lifted
[11:33] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: one moment, and I'll move to you
[11:33] <noob123456> gimme a sec
[11:34] <noob123456> ikonia: output of mdadm --detail :
[11:34] <noob123456> /dev/md0:
[11:34] <ikonia> noob123456: ok, thats good, so you've not tried to put a file system on it
[11:34] <noob123456>         Version : 00.90.03
[11:34] <noob123456>   Creation Time : Mon Apr 14 11:18:18 2008
[11:34] <noob123456>      Raid Level : raid5
[11:34] <noob123456>      Array Size : 2930287488 (2794.54 GiB 3000.61 GB)
[11:34] <noob123456>   Used Dev Size : 976762496 (931.51 GiB 1000.20 GB)
[11:34] <FloodBot2> noob123456: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:34] <noob123456>    Raid Devices : 4
[11:35] <ikonia> noob123456: why do you keep flooding
[11:35] <ikonia> noob123456: thats the 3rd time I've asked you to use the pastebin
[11:35] <Sturmeh> lol
[11:35] <Pirate_Hunter> !pastebin | noob123456
[11:35] <ubotu> noob123456: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[11:35] <Sturmeh> pastebin noob!
[11:35] <kronos_dublin> list
[11:35] <IsotropicSpin> hey all, if i get the Hardy Heron beta, do i have reinstall the whole thing or is there an "Update to beta" option?
[11:35] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: lets get to you, I appriciate you can't use the pastebin so would you like to pm me your file
[11:35] <compwiz18> so it would appear that a bad USB cable is responsible for the hub of USB death
[11:35] <rsmith16384> i didnt know what pastebin was until now
[11:35] <bazhang> IsotropicSpin: youcan update
[11:36] <rsmith16384> comp dinna know that was possible thanks for heads up
[11:36] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: you mean DCC or just compy & paste the contents of the file?
[11:36] <ikonia> noob123456: for reference, you can't respond to me as you've been muted, you need to wait for flood bot to unmute you
[11:36] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: cut and paste will be fine
[11:36] <ikonia> noob123456: ok, your unmuted.
[11:36] <IsotropicSpin> bazhang: thanks! Do you know how long that will take once i have the cd in my drive? if its less than 20 mins i will do it!
[11:36] <ikonia> noob123456: do you understand the problem now ?
[11:36] <compwiz18> IsotropicSpin: you can update - gksudo update-manager -d, if I remember
[11:36] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter: can you install software? if so you might try cat and piping the file to pastebinit
[11:36] <noob123456> lolz, IRC makes me dizzy
[11:36] <compwiz18> IsotropicSpin: how fast is your computer?
[11:36] <julle_> Is there any reported issues installing Ubunu Hardy beta under Microsoft Vista?
[11:36] <julle_> via Wubi
[11:36] <akatsuki> hello.. i have a sad problem:(
[11:37] <mask> thanks xpoint and iknoia
[11:37] <bazhang> hardy discussion in #ubuntu+1 IsotropicSpin meet you there
[11:37] <IsotropicSpin> AMD 64 dual core i forget which
[11:37] <noob123456> thanks for the help ikonia, will wait for array to rebuild and come back
[11:37] <compwiz18> oops, sorry bazhang :)
[11:37] <noob123456> later
[11:37] <reel_> !info mediatomb
[11:37] <ubotu> Package mediatomb does not exist in gutsy
[11:37] <rsmith16384> if im usin hardy and i go from single to multicore will anything bad happen?
[11:37] <akatsuki> i just buy a lcd monitor and a vga cable to connect my laptop.. well... ubuntu is not detecting it.. why ?
[11:37] <bazhang> compwiz18: makes no matter to me ;]
[11:37] <IsotropicSpin> compwiz18: AMD 64 dual core i forget whic
[11:37] <akatsuki> no image appear in my monitor
[11:38] <rsmith16384> akat, refresh different sounds like
[11:38] <rsmith16384> what about bootup?
[11:38] <compwiz18> IsotropicSpin: lets move it to #ubuntu+1 ;)
[11:38] <rsmith16384> do you at least see that?
[11:38] <ikonia> rsmith16384: you've seen 3 people in this channel be told hardy is in #ubuntu+1
[11:38] <akatsuki> rsmith what do you mean with sound like?
[11:38] <akatsuki> i dont understand
[11:39] <rsmith16384> ikon, i see a room called ubuntu, like they did
[11:39] <pawan> hi
[11:39] <rsmith16384> aka, when you boot do you at least see text?
[11:39] <akatsuki>  i just buy a lcd monitor and a vga cable to connect my laptop.. well... ubuntu is not detecting it.. why ? i mean no image appear in my monitor...
[11:39] <akatsuki> rsmith.. no i cant see anything
[11:39] <ikonia> rsmith16384: join #ubuntu+1
[11:39] <akatsuki> no image appear in my monitor
[11:40] <pawan> can we install mandriva with ubuntu
[11:40] <ikonia> rsmith16384: thats the correct place to discuss
[11:40] <rsmith16384> sounds like you should verify the monitor on a diff pc
[11:40] <ikonia> pawan: use mandriva install media
[11:40] <bazhang> pawan yes insert the cd and it will detect ubuntu then done; more info in #mandriva
[11:40] <pawan> i have mandriva power pack
[11:41] <akatsuki> well no sound no image appear
[11:41] <rsmith16384> bad monitor or cable if you cant even see the bios
[11:41] <ikonia> pawan: great
[11:41] <akatsuki> its just not detecint it
[11:41] <akatsuki> no
[11:41] <bazhang> pawan go to that channel for more help
[11:41] <akatsuki> i already try it with vista.. i have dual boot
[11:41] <akatsuki> and its working
[11:41] <pawan> can we have three distros of linux in one system
[11:41] <akatsuki> ubuntuu doesnt have the drivers i guess
[11:41] <akatsuki> where i can i download?
[11:41] <pawan> viz mint mandriva and ubuntu
[11:41] <rsmith16384> so you have no scree when you turn on the computer but it works once your in vista?
[11:41] <rsmith16384> wierd
[11:42] <void^> pawan: yes.
[11:42] <akatsuki> yeah
[11:42] <bazhang> pawan sure but the others need lvm after you use the primaries
[11:42] <pawan> and also winxp and 2003 server
[11:42] <akatsuki> the image start as soon as i enter my password to start vista
[11:42] <akatsuki> but when i click ubuntu nothing appear
[11:43] <bazhang> pawan that would be in ##windows
[11:43] <rsmith16384> aka when you turn on the computer (flip the switch) do you see anything at all?
[11:43] <akatsuki> noup
[11:43] <akatsuki> if you want i try agtain if i see
[11:43] <akatsuki> something but i dont thinkn so
[11:43] <pawan> currently i have ubuntu winxp and win2003 installed in my system
[11:43] <pawan> it is working fine
[11:44] <rsmith16384> any monitor should show the bios screen at boot
[11:44] <ikonia> pawan: what is your question ?
[11:44] <akatsuki> let me
[11:44] <akatsuki> double check
[11:44] <akatsuki> btb
[11:44] <DeFi> hi all
[11:44] <pawan> now i want to also install mandriva and linux mint keeping my exiting installation
[11:44] <pawan> can it be done or it may crash
[11:45] <bazhang> pawan can be done but you should ask in #mandriva and #linuxmint thanks
[11:45] <rsmith16384> is it safe to tell people that ANY monitor should display bios screen at boot?
[11:45] <rsmith16384> i can think of no exceptions
[11:45] <rsmith16384> except maybee in the case of a tv out i suppose
[11:46] <ikonia> pawan: ok, you'll need a seperate boot partition and a good understanding of grub
[11:46] <akatsuki> no anything appear
[11:46] <akatsuki> im back
[11:46] <akatsuki> no bios
[11:46] <akatsuki> no nothing
[11:46] <pawan> how to create seperate boot partition
[11:47] <ikonia> pawan: use the partitioner tools with the distro you are using
[11:47] <pawan> using ubuntu
[11:47] <wers> what app edits compiz's settings? :)
[11:47] <ikonia> pawan: ok, so use the tools
[11:47] <rsmith16384> is this hdmi or dvi?
[11:47] <FloodBot3> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[11:48] <azuki> wers: advanced desktep effect settings
[11:48] <akatsuki> rsmith is not hdmi or dmi.. its vga
[11:48] <akatsuki> my laptop only support vga
[11:48] <rsmith16384> all the more reason for it to show the bios screen at boot
[11:48] <falco1> ciao
[11:48] <falco1> !list
[11:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:48] <rsmith16384> check the monitor settings
[11:48] <dotech> compiz only works with RandR?
[11:48] <wers> azuki, iwant to tweak more
[11:48] <rsmith16384> try to reset to default
[11:48] <DeFi> im trying to find a simple way to boot an iso from a usb flash drive using some bootloader, can anyone help?
[11:48] <wers> any other app?
[11:48] <akatsuki> rsmith where?
[11:49] <rsmith16384> on the monitor
[11:49] <rsmith16384> is there no buttons?
[11:49] <rsmith16384> no menu?
[11:49] <akatsuki> yes
[11:49] <akatsuki> but what you want me to move
[11:49] <azuki> wers : or as a package --> compizconfig-settings-manager
[11:49] <rsmith16384> look for a reset setting
[11:49] <azuki> wers: plenty of tweaking to do there..
[11:49] <ubutom> akatsuki, does you laptop have a key labeled fn?
[11:49] <rsmith16384> ALL vga monitors shouls show bios screen i can think of no exception
[11:49] <wers> thanks azuki
[11:50] <ikonia> rsmith16384: some laptops dont
[11:50] <akatsuki> yes
[11:50] <akatsuki> ubutom
[11:50] <rsmith16384> really?!
[11:50] <akatsuki> yes
[11:50] <ikonia> rsmith16384: some laptops have extenal vga disabled untili you enable it in bios or with function keys
[11:50] <akatsuki> why
[11:50] <rsmith16384> aka is this a laptop?
[11:50] <ubutom> akatsuki, try hitting fn and search on your f-keys for a display
[11:50] <ikonia> rsmith16384: he said laptop about 4 times
[11:50] <rsmith16384> ok ill stop trying to help
[11:51] <rsmith16384> obviously im not as informed as ikonia
[11:51] <ubutom> akatsuki, with my laptop i have to enable the outbound vga via fn and F10 for example
[11:51] <ikonia> rsmith16384: not at all, it's easy to miss
[11:51] <ikonia> rsmith16384: stick with it
[11:51] <DeFi> can someone atleast tell me where i can ask for help?
[11:51] <ikonia> DeFi: what's up
[11:52] <DeFi> I'm trying to find a simple way to boot an iso from a usb flash drive using some bootloader
[11:52] <ikonia> DeFi: hthats not simple
[11:52] <ikonia> thats not simple
[11:52] <rsmith16384> aka, sounds like you should look for LCD/CRT function keys
[11:52] <DeFi> well i need a way
[11:52] <rsmith16384> once you get it to display bios screen,
[11:52] <rsmith16384> it should work with ubuintu
[11:52] <rsmith16384> so id do this,
[11:53] <rsmith16384> turn it on,
[11:53] <DeFi> cause cdshell can boot from an iso, but cdshell cannot run on a usb flash drive
[11:53] <rsmith16384> wait about 3 secs
[11:53] <rsmith16384> press pause
[11:53] <rsmith16384> then try the function keys
[11:53] <ubutom> !enter rsmith16384
[11:53] <rsmith16384> until it appears
[11:53] <ikonia> DeFi: thats reasonable, but it's not an easy task
[11:53] <ikonia> DeFi: I don't think grub can handle booting ISO's
[11:53] <ikonia> DeFi: you'd need to uncompress it on the fly
[11:53] <DeFi> no, it cant
[11:54] <rsmith16384> ubot, whats that mean?
[11:54] <DeFi> how would uncompressing it help?
[11:54] <ikonia> DeFi: because grub could read it as a file system
[11:55] <DeFi> cdshell can only use the ISO9660 file system
[11:56] <ikonia> DeFi: then this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:56] <akatsuki> i click fn + every f...
[11:56] <akatsuki> still nto working
[11:56] <akatsuki> and fn + f10 nothing appears
[11:56] <akatsuki> nothing happen
[11:56] <DeFi> ikonia: thats why i asked if you could tell me where i could ask for help with this :/
[11:56] <rsmith16384> aka, in that case, id now try this,
[11:56] <rsmith16384> hook up the other monitor
[11:57] <ikonia> DeFi: no idea, again nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:57] <rsmith16384> get in the bios,
[11:57] <DeFi> :(
[11:57] <rsmith16384> look for display options in there
[11:57] <pawan> hi
[11:57] <akatsuki> and?
[11:57] <akatsuki> display options and then what
[11:58] <rsmith16384> but if another monitor was working fine before i dont see what could be changeable except the settings on the display itself
[11:58] <DeFi> ikonia: i thought someone here could just point me in the right direction after reading http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1652/
[11:58] <pjv> what's a good irc client to use besides xchat
[11:58] <DeFi> oh well
[11:58] <DeFi> thanks anyway
[11:58] <therion_> how I can influence the hintstyle for fonts in Qt4? i'm using Ubuntu feisty...
[11:58] <akatsuki> there was no other monitor working
[11:58] <rsmith16384> you did reset the monitor to defaults right?
[11:58] <akatsuki> is the first time i hook a monitor and its working with vista
[11:58] <akatsuki> but not with ubuntu
[11:58] <ikonia> DeFi: bye
[11:58] <akatsuki> thats it
[11:58] <rsmith16384> ok, then proceed with looking in bios
[11:58] <akatsuki> no i didnt see any default option
[11:58] <akatsuki> ok
[11:59] <gregory> pjv: sudo apt-get install irssi, quite different from xchat, but nevertheless interesting
[11:59] <pusoicafe> hi guys do we have some guides for internet connection sharing in ubuntu?
[11:59] <ikonia> pusoicafe: few on https://help.ubuntu.com
[11:59] <pusoicafe> ok gonna go there
[11:59] <pjv> hmm interesting is good, i'll give it a go. thank you gregory
[12:00] <ricanelite> is there a way when I plug-in my ipod it will open up Banshee instead of Music Player?
[12:01] <therion_> how i can enable antialiasing in qt4 fonts?
[12:04] <rsmith16384> how long does it usually take for a distro thats in beta to become stable?
[12:04] <MaRTiDoRe> asdasd
[12:04] <MaRTiDoRe> hello'
[12:04] <MaRTiDoRe> ?
[12:04] <rsmith16384> hi
[12:04] <jussi01> rsmith16384: it depends on the distro
[12:05] <MaRTiDoRe> How can i connect to irc-hispano?
[12:05] <rsmith16384> at the risk of pissing people off, how long do you think it will be before hardy is stable?
[12:06] <rsmith16384> mart, your on an open source chat server
[12:06] <MaRTiDoRe>  /server irc.irc-hispano.org
[12:06] <rsmith16384> youll need to connect to a server that has that channel
[12:06] <jussi01> rsmith16384: please go read the topic in #ubuntu+1
[12:06] <MaRTiDoRe>  /connect irc.irc-hispano.org
[12:07] <ricanelite> rsmith16384, depends on the distro, Ubuntu is really good in getting the Distro running good and usually very fast
[12:07] <ricanelite> rsmith16384, well less than a week i think Hardy will be ready and will be pretty much stable
[12:08] <rsmith16384> good, i hate to revert to an older version just to get 1 app to work, ive devoted so much time and energy
[12:09] <marlun> What package do I need to install to get the mysql development files?
[12:09] <gregory> ricanelite: i have an answer for the ipod question
[12:09] <MaRTiDoRe> im so lost
[12:09] <MaRTiDoRe> where i am?
[12:10] <MaRTiDoRe> whis server is this?
[12:10] <MaRTiDoRe> which*
[12:10] <fragged> irc.freenode.net
[12:10] <MaRTiDoRe> i want to go to irc-hispano :(
[12:10] <rsmith16384> mart, your connected to freenode, you want to connect to the server having the channel your talking about instead of freenode
[12:10] <fragged> martidore try /join irc-hispano
[12:10] <fragged> you might need /quit first
[12:10] <MaRTiDoRe>  /server irc.irc-hispano.org
[12:11] <Elis> hi there
[12:11] <rsmith16384> mart when you start this chat program your using now,
[12:11] <rsmith16384> do you see the word "freenode" anywhere?
[12:11] <cqt> ķāĮµś»Õż¢ÕøĮõ║║
[12:11] <MaRTiDoRe> where is the console to type the commands?
[12:12] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia, can you help me understand conky refresh rate as its not real time even if i set it up to 1second refresh rate, its like once i open programs conky stops refreshing in real time
[12:12] <rsmith16384> the chanserv tab if thats a channel on this server
[12:12] <gregory> cgose: #ubuntu-cn
[12:12] <gregory> cqt: #ubuntu-cn
[12:12] <gregory> cgose: sorry
[12:13] <MaRTiDoRe> wtf
[12:13] <Xia0TuZ> µłæõĖŹµś»Õż¢ÕøĮõ║║
[12:13] <Xia0TuZ> lol
[12:13] <rsmith16384> marti
[12:13] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: what are you monitoring with it
[12:13] <kooot> haha
[12:13] <rsmith16384> when you start this chat program, do you see the word freenode anywhere?
[12:13] <Xia0TuZ> µłæńÜäubuntuµĆÄõ╣łµÆŁµöŠõĖŹÕć║ÕŻ░ķ¤│Õæó
[12:13] <MaRTiDoRe> mmhh i'll take a look
[12:13] <compwiz18> !cn | Xia0TuZ
[12:13] <ubotu> Xia0TuZ: For Ubuntu help in Chinese µé©ÕÅ»õ╗źĶ«┐ķŚ«õĖŁµ¢ćķóæķüō’╝Ü #ubuntu-cn µł¢ĶĆģ #ubuntu-tw  µł¢ĶĆģ #ubuntu-hk
[12:13] <zoobox> if I want to use rsync, if I understand right, I have to start a rsync-daemon?
[12:14] <compwiz18> zoobox: you don't *have* to, depending on how you want to use rsync
[12:14] <zoobox> compwiz18: aha
[12:15] <rsmith16384> im building a pxe image for ubuntu, can anyone tell me how long my clients will take to boot it?
[12:15] <rsmith16384> taking an hour to dl the packages and im getting worried
[12:15] <zoobox> compwiz18: if I just wanty use it like I otherwise whould use rcp ?
[12:16] <soumyade1p> hi everybody
[12:16] <zoobox> hi soumyade1p
[12:17] <soumyade1p> i cant execute the ff command,i tried sudo apt-get install ff, but it tells could not find the package
[12:17] <soumyade1p> my system is up to date
[12:17] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: what do you mean what am i monitoring it with? ive got conky on desktop and its slow my bars dont move contant like they are suppsoed to
[12:17] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: I really didnt get your question
[12:17] <rsmith16384> pirate your browser workin now?
[12:17] <zoobox> what is ff ?
[12:18] <Pirate_Hunter> rsmith16384: yup had no dns server :/
[12:18] <rsmith16384> shouldve guess that
[12:18] <soumyade1p> zoobox its for finding any file in your system
[12:18] <zoobox> aha
[12:18] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: what are you using conky to monitor
[12:18] <rsmith16384> i ruled that out since you were able to connect to irc.freenode
[12:18] <rsmith16384> maybee it was cached
[12:19] <ikonia> rsmith16384: marlunthe ubuntu connection does it on ip
[12:19] <soumyade1p> zoobox can u help with the same?
[12:19] <zoobox> perhaps ff is in the package findutils ?
[12:19] <rsmith16384> caches?
[12:20] <rsmith16384> "does it"?
[12:20] <soumyade1p> zoobox so what should i ddo ,i am a new user
[12:21] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: oh simple stuff cpu, net upstream&downstream, my hds, inbound&outbound connections as well as logging which i dont understand :(
[12:22] <rsmith16384> how did you guys get to be so good with nix OSes?
[12:22] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: this may sound silly but are you running from a livecd or a disk based install ?
[12:22] <rsmith16384> on your own or with school?
[12:22] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter: you read the definitive tutorial on conky for ubuntu yet?
[12:23] <gregory> rsmith16384: just using it, to solve real world problems.
[12:23] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2iqecdu&s=3 yeha this is how it looks and im runnign from disk, 0_o running form livecd is madness if disk is this slow
[12:23] <zoobox> soumyade1p: sorry, I haven't used ff myself so I don't know. perhaps you can use the command locate instead?
[12:24] <rsmith16384> that pretty much my strategy too
[12:24] <rsmith16384> i have a long way to go it seems
[12:24] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: try reducing the time to say 10 seconds, does it manage to keep in sync then ?
[12:25] <rsmith16384> drivers was holding me back for a long time, but now thats not as much of a problem
[12:25] <rsmith16384> i still dont know how to install a driver from the prompt
[12:25] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: the default conky.cof i sued had 3.0 seconds delay ive moved from 1s to 1.15 but yeah will try 10s
[12:25] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: just for interest sake
[12:25] <simplexio> rsmith16384: modprobe drivername
[12:26] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: there was an old senario with nagios that had tests that took longer than 1 second to execute, where backlogging the refresh
[12:26] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: I'm thinking something simialr for you with conky ?
[12:26] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: refresh every second is quite extreme
[12:26] <rsmith16384> simple, wots that do?
[12:26] <soumyade1p> thanx zoobox,i can do with locate
[12:26] <Pici> soumyade1p: also check out find.
[12:27] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: true the problem is that when i close all programs conky refreshes in real time which is weird since i have plenty of ram and i aint running anything xtreme but will test it out when im about to log off
[12:28] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: certainly worth checking
[12:28] <ikonia> PriceChild: could be things like redraw times
[12:28] <ikonia> PriceChild: sorry
[12:28] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter: redraw times for example
[12:28] <rsmith16384> pxe test hopefully see you all again soon
[12:29] <Pirate_Hunter> ikonia: ok will do so hmm  just got an email to check my credit scoring for free nice
[12:30] <zubu> how can i acess my windows files from linux
[12:30] <speedhunt3r> hey i am trying to fix a dependency issue by using apt-get -f install but i get an error... "error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libawn0_0.2.1-0ubuntu1~gutsy1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[12:30] <speedhunt3r>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libawn.so.0.0.1', which is also in package libawn-bzr
[12:30] <speedhunt3r> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:30] <speedhunt3r>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libawn0_0.2.1-0ubuntu1~gutsy1_amd64.deb
[12:30] <speedhunt3r> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" how do i fix this?
[12:30] <FloodBot2> speedhunt3r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:30] <zubu> earlier it was showing on my desktop
[12:31] <speedhunt3r> arg, sorry for flooding.
[12:31] <zubu> but now it is not
[12:31] <zubu> it is loaded on sda2
[12:31] <erUSUL> !ntfs | zubu
[12:31] <ubotu> zubu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[12:32] <zubu> actually earlier it was showing on my desktop
[12:32] <zubu> but now suddenly it is not therre
[12:33] <Pirate_Hunter> never understood this, if it is free why do i get charged ┬Ż6.99 at the end of the free period 0_o?
[12:34] <gregory> Pirate_Hunter: thats actually the trick to lure people
[12:34] <Pirate_Hunter> gregory: yeah but it seems to waste about 3min of my time everytime i see it, its so hard not to click on it
[12:35] <Filled-Void> Before I try upgradingt o Heron I would like to know the amount of daa I have to have transffered from the internet. Is there a way I can see how much I have to download before I actually do it ?
[12:36] <Dr_willis> Filled-Void,  it will proberly be over 500mb.  depending on what you got installed now.
[12:36] <chronographer> Hi all. I have a new samsung 226BW and I can't get nvidia drivers working. I currently have nv drivers with full 1680x1050 resolution, but if I change xorg to nvidia I get blurry screen. Any ideas?
[12:36] <blinkiz> How can I see how many memory slots is occupied in my laptop?
[12:37] <Filled-Void> Dr_willis, Can I cancel once I start the process? and If I have to reboot due to a power outage or anythign else does it resume its downloads from rpevious location?
[12:37] <icesword> free ----->less /proc/meminfo
[12:37] <Dr_willis> chronographer,  my 226bw works fine here. NO issues at all with it.
[12:37] <chronographer> hey filled void, change all gutsy's to hardy's in sources.list and go apt-get update. don't go apt-get upgrade
[12:37] <chronographer> with nvidia?
[12:37] <chronographer> filled void: yes
[12:38] <chronographer> any chance you could post your sorg.conf somewhere?
[12:38] <chronographer> *xorg
[12:38] <Dr_willis> Filled-Void,  stopomng the upgrade is propberly not a good idea.   it can resume the downloads.. but once it starts installing packages..  let it install them
[12:38] <Dr_willis> chronographer,  You using dvi or vga conector?
[12:38] <chronographer> vga
[12:38] <chronographer> dvi caused black outs
[12:39] <chronographer> flashing black on the screen with movement, although compiz worked, using vga now with full res, no compiz
[12:39] <imaginativeone> would someone help me set up samba?
[12:39] <Dr_willis> blackouts? Sounds like you got some issues somewhere.. DVI  would be much clearer then VGA
[12:39] <chronographer> I have an oldish 5600 FX
[12:40] <Filled-Void> Dr_willis, Ah ok thanks :) and may if the command chronographer  mentioned apt-get upgrade is the right way or should I change all the repositories to heron and then do an update?
[12:40] <Dr_willis> chronographer, Hmm.. could be some quirk with the card.
[12:40] <chronographer> so blackouts are like, I move a window and screen drops to black.. few seconds comes bak.. then drops again, gives me a headache!
[12:40] <Dr_willis> imaginativeone,  install the samba and samba-doc packages yet?
[12:40] <doolz> I have a logitech elite keyboard/mouse that I'm trying to pair up, the mouse works fine but I can't get past the passphrase....
[12:41] <Dr_willis> chronographer,  try some other live cd's see if the issue affexts them also. could be a nvidia driver bug with  that specific card
[12:41] <Evil-MoBo> hey guys n gals, i got a question for u or can you point me to the channel that can help me i need a bandwidth monitor that would work on monitoring the bandwidth for remote sites from your computer and i need it to work with ubuntu/debian anyone know the awnser to this?
[12:41] <ChaosTheory^> Where can I download the bcm4328 driver from?
[12:41] <chronographer> ok sounds like a plan... I have everything set up on this install though! I guess if the hardy CD works, I can upgrade to that hopefully...
[12:42] <chronographer> Thanks for your advice all
[12:43] <Evil-MoBo> ubot? u here
[12:43] <Evil-MoBo> ubotu or ubotu2? you there
[12:43] <gregory> Evil-MoBo: try #debian
[12:44] <ompaul> Evil-MoBo, apt-cache search bandwidth | grep monitor  << something there might help you -- on each of the boxes you want to run it on
[12:45] <Evil-MoBo> so basicaly try useing synaptic or the package manager before coming in here ompaul? jk
[12:46] <Evil-MoBo> isnt hardy supposed to come out this month?
[12:46] <ompaul> Evil-MoBo, well there are many choices you should evaluate your options based on your criteria and this might help you do so (no jk)
[12:46] <Pici> Evil-MoBo: 24th.
[12:47] <bullgard4> man mcedit: "Please note that the mouse support in the terminal doesnŌĆÖt share the clipboard with mcedit." How can I copy a piece of text to the clipboard?
[12:47] <Evil-MoBo> yes ompaul i know this i appriciate your help i think u mean sudo apt-get bandwidth monitor it might auto search it
[12:47] <kpham> Hi all
[12:47] <Evil-MoBo> <<skitzomindz on youtube i made the apt-get tutorial from my website dimx-gfx
[12:48] <ompaul> Evil-MoBo, no I meant what I typed
[12:48] <kpham> is there a way to shared the sound between Ubuntu Host & VirtualBox?
[12:48] <ikonia> bullgard4: gpm can do cut and paste out of the box
[12:48] <Medved>  I am going to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit gutsy on a dell XPS m1330 with 4 gig of RAM.  Will there be any problems?
[12:48] <Evil-MoBo> but ok ompaul im still learning ubuntu
[12:48] <Evil-MoBo> thanks for that cmd
[12:48] <aioobe> does anyone know how to set up an adhoc network with knetworkmanager?
[12:48] <ikonia> Medved: yes, you can't upgrade
[12:48] <ikonia> Medved: you should do a clean install
[12:48] <doolz> I have a wireless logitech elite keyboard/mouse that I'm trying to pair up, the mouse works fine but I can't get past the passphrase....
[12:49] <Medved> Thank you ikonia.
[12:49] <aioobe> does anyone know how to set up an adhoc network with knetworkmanager?
[12:49] <Evil-MoBo> ompaul
[12:49] <bullgard4> ikonia: gpm = General Purpose Mouse Interface?
[12:49] <ikonia> Medved: there is also a problem with the webcam drivers as I recall
[12:49] <ikonia> bullgard4: thats it
[12:49] <Evil-MoBo> search apt-get on youtube you will find my video
[12:49] <Evil-MoBo> apt-get or dimx-gfx
[12:49] <happy_tux> doolz; maybe a locale setting?
[12:49] <Evil-MoBo> to search it
[12:49] <Medved> I don't have a web cam.  But thank you.  Are there other issues I should be aware of?
[12:50] <Evil-MoBo> you might like it u just gave me a new apt-get cmd to add to it ompaul
[12:50] <kpham> Hi guys, is there a way to shared the sound between Ubuntu Host & VirtualBox?
[12:50] <ompaul> !offtopic  | Evil-MoBo (yabber in -offtopic ;-))
[12:50] <ubotu> Evil-MoBo (yabber in -offtopic ;-)): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:50] <doolz> happy_tux: It sees the keyboard, just can't get pass the passphrase screen
[12:51] <Evil-MoBo> ok sorry ubotu
[12:51] <gfetco> Hello, is their any good webdesign program or do I have to use notepad to make webdesigns?
[12:51] <Pici> !html | gfetco
[12:51] <ubotu> gfetco: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[12:52] <gfetco> I know HTML I just wonder if their is some simple editor which allowes me to change positions of images and stuff like that easily
[12:52] <scapor> gfetco: just read the whole text
[12:52] <Pici> gfetco: I understand you know html, but the bot just gave you a nice list of editors to use.
[12:53] <gfetco> Which of the edits you gave me is the best?
[12:53] <gfetco> editors*
[12:53] <Pici> sigh
[12:53] <Pici> !best
[12:53] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[12:53] <scapor> gfetco: that's subjective
[12:53] <ZeroA4> gfetco, Kompozer, BlueFish, Quanta...
[12:53] <happy_tux> gfecto, VI
[12:53] <Pici> ubotu: thanks
[12:53] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:53] <gfetco> Is pelo also a bot?
[12:54] <Pici> gfetco: no, pelo is a person.
[12:54] <welshdude> hi
[12:54] <gfetco> Oh...
[12:54] <welshdude> I have a question about networks
[12:54] <Dr_willis> welshdude,  thats a large topic. :)
[12:55] <gfetco> Well thanks again guys u are really making ubuntu worth having cuz u help out really fast
[12:55] <gfetco> xD
[12:55] <lartza_> Why does firefox sometimes detect sites to ISO-8859-1 when they are UTF-8? I have set defualt encoding to UTF-8 but the autodetect overruns it. Some sites work and some not.
[12:55] <Dr_willis> gfetco,  what editor i use.. depends on what i am doing. :)
[12:55] <Dr_willis> gfetco,  it pays to learn vi and learn it well.. i also like fte
[12:56] <gfetco> DR Willis, I want to move around images so I can skip the CSS part I hate the CSS part
[12:56] <gfetco> Which one should I use then?
[12:56] <Dr_willis> gfetco,  no idea. i dont mess with html much.
[12:56] <welshdude> I live in a shared house with 5 people who all run diffrent versions of windows, XP, Vista ect. I have set up a good network and we share and stream files between us all, I want to install ubuntu on my pc, will I have any problems using my existing network
[12:57] <DistroJockey> lartza_: my Firefox Autodetect is Off, and was by default I assume (as I have not changed it)
[12:57] <ChaosTheory_> I've got my proper resolution settings to work, but each time I restart the settings go back to 800x600. How do I make 1280x800 automatically start on reboot?
[12:57] <gfetco> Oh.. It just sounded like you were using html :D
[12:57] <lartza_> where is the seting?
[12:57] <lartza_> I have it off too!
[12:57] <ZeroA4> lartza_, sites must tell with charset they use... some sites are not well configured and tells the browser the wrong charset
[12:57] <Dr_willis> welshdude,  linux can see/access windows 'smb' shared folders just fine. and windows can access shared filders on the linux box with samba.
[12:57] <lartza_> IT happens with nucleus blog
[12:57] <DistroJockey> lartza_: View menu, Character Encoding
[12:58] <Dr_willis> gfetco,  a little bit of xml(uml?)  for some cfigs is mess with in that area.
[12:58] <DistroJockey> lartza_: then Auto Detect = Off
[12:58] <welshdude> and it will autodetect the network and will have no problems
[12:58] <lartza_> Yea, it was disabled
[12:58] <lartza_> Now i tried enabling, but no effect
[12:58] <Jizzo> welshdude: You have to make sure that samba is installed ofcourse. Not sure if it comes with the standard installation.
[12:59] <lartza_> But it wont use the UTF-8 I have set default.
[12:59] <tim167> how can i install ubuntu from a usb cdrom ?
[12:59] <Dr_willis> welshdude,  you will want to install the 'samba' and 'samba-doc' packages. samba for the sharing. and samba-doc so you have the html books to read  to learn how to use samba.
[12:59] <ompaul> !install | tim167
[12:59] <ubotu> tim167: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[13:00] <rsham> ą┐čĆąĖą▓ą░
[13:00] <welshdude> ok thanks
[13:00] <lartza_> I could try changing encoding of nucleus index pages
[13:00] <Bailie> How do I install VBoxLinuxAdditions.run ?
[13:00] <DistroJockey> lartza_: in FF, if you do   about:config   in the address bar, and then type   charset   in the filter, does it look ok?
[13:01] <rsham> ą░ ą║čéąŠ ąĮąĖčéčī ą┐ąŠ čĆąŠčāčüčüą║ąĖ čéčāčé ą│ąŠą▓ąŠčĆąĖčé?
[13:01] <rsham> ą╝ą╝ą╝?
[13:01] <ompaul> !ru | rsham
[13:01] <ubotu> rsham: ą¤ąŠąČą░ą╗čāą╣čüčéą░ ą┐ąŠčüąĄčéąĖčéąĄ #ubuntu-ru ą┤ą╗čÅ ą┐ąŠą╗čāčćąĄąĮąĖčÅ ą┐ąŠą╝ąŠčēąĖ ąĮą░ čĆčāčüčüą║ąŠą╝ čÅąĘčŗą║ąĄ  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[13:01] <rsham> #ubuntu-ru
[13:01] <lartza_> For me, yes
[13:02] <Jizzo> rsham: Type /j #ubuntu-ru
[13:02] <DistroJockey> lartza_: k, out of ideas, sorry
[13:02] <lartza_> Ok, thx
[13:02] <Bailie> The extension .run means a script
[13:02] <Bailie> how do I run that script?
[13:03] <lartza_> OMG!
[13:03] <Bailie> it must be a shell script
[13:03] <tim167> how do i install ubuntu without a CD and without using windows ? these instructions http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html are how to do it on windows but i dont have/want that!
[13:03] <ompaul> Bailie, not always - type "file foo.run" or whatever you are looking at, and you might get a surprise
[13:03] <lartza_> changed accepted charsets to UTF-8 and it encodes sites still in diff formats
[13:04] <cecil_> foo.run
[13:04] <tim167> my laptop CDROM is broken, it cannot boot from external cdrom, how do i install ubuntu on it ?
[13:04] <Dr_willis> bash foo.run   even :) in some cases
[13:05] <lartza_> Maybe I shuold stay in Opera...
[13:05] <Dr_willis> !install
[13:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[13:05] <tim167> Dr_willis: these instructions http://tinyurl.com/3exghs require windows!
[13:05] <ompaul> !install | tim167
[13:05] <ubotu> tim167: please see above
[13:05] <Bailie> how do I go to my CD rom path in terminal?
[13:05] <DistroJockey> Bailie: if it is not already executable, you can   chmod +x script.name.run   and try   ./script.name.run
[13:06] <DRebellion_> Bailie, /cdrom
[13:06] <lartza_> Aww... Same problem with opera
[13:06] <Dr_willis> tim167,  i dont have them memorized  :) check the forums i guess..  ive heard of people installing from iso files on usb drives.
[13:07] <Dr_willis> network installs i hear are handy also. but take some work to set up
[13:07] <Pici> tim167: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation lists a number of ways to install without using a CD.
[13:07] <bazhang> tim167: do you have system currently on that computer? xp/linux what
[13:09] <tim167> bazhang: yes but i want to erase that, there is a madriva variant on it now, can i install starting from that ?
[13:14] <bazhang> tim167: is this computer on a lan with other computers?
[13:16] <jpastore> Is there a program similar to acrobat professional where I can highlight parts of a PDF and drop in comments? I don't need full editing ...
[13:16] <tim167> bazhang: no, it has a network card though
[13:16] <jpastore> PDFEdit seems a little complex and the documentation is difficult to follow
[13:16] <icesword> jpastore, what about inkscape
[13:17] <icesword> !info inkscape
[13:17] <ubotu> inkscape (source: inkscape): vector-based drawing program. In component main, is optional. Version 0.45.1-1ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 10495 kB, installed size 45936 kB
[13:17] <jpastore> icesword, I'll give it a shot. I just saw a link in the forums
[13:17] <icesword> k
[13:17] <icesword> !info pdfedit
[13:17] <ubotu> pdfedit (source: pdfedit): Editor for manipulating PDF documents. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (gutsy), package size 2776 kB, installed size 7532 kB
[13:19] <jpastore> icesword, did you see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=752785
[13:19] <icesword> jpastore, what is it
[13:19] <Morten_> hey, ive got a quick question.. When I exec uptime, there is 3 number (load average) but how come its possible to get over 1.00 (100%) ?
[13:19] <bazhang> tim167: can you get internet on that machine?
[13:20] <jpastore> icesword, forum post discussing a commercial app vs inkscape stating inkscape only manages 1 page at a time and is not adequate
[13:20] <Kaja> Morten_, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_(computing)
[13:20] <void^> Morten_: it isn't a percentage.
[13:20] <Pici> Morten_: Check the uptime manpage. It has to do with how many processes are currently in a running state, not what percentage of the cpu you are using.
[13:20] <Terrasque> Morten_: I've had over 500 in load once :) 500 processes all trying to use 100% cpu
[13:21] <icesword> jpastore, so you mean inkscape won't work,i saw on their someday,they said it can edit pdf
[13:21] <icesword> on their site
[13:21] <Morten_> ahh ok, thx alot for your answers :D
[13:21] <bazhang> tim167: if you can get internet on that machine then you should go with unetbootin: details here--> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427540
[13:22] <nathan_> Hi, how do you start a console application with alacarte? I tried: gksudo gnome-terminal -e "applicationname" but it fails as in the terminal closes immediately
[13:22] <jpastore> icesword, welll I'm compiling now...I'll let you in a few and probably post the results on the forum so other people can either use it or ignore it without having to deal with this....
[13:23] <icesword> jpastore, yaaa,nice,why not download binary
[13:23] <wi9li4m> oi
[13:24] <wi9li4m> i have /home/myuser mounted on the desktop instead of /home/myuser/Desktop
[13:25] <tim167>  bazhang: ok thanks, but i managed to boot it from a usb cdrom drive after all, it was just not called cdrom, but it had some wierd name....
[13:25] <jpastore> well I saw a 32bit .deb but I'm running x86_64...and it's complaining about compiling saying I'm missing libpng
[13:26] <Hysteria> heya guys, just about to put in ubuntu disc, anything i should know before installing?
[13:26] <Hysteria> im a complete linux nub
[13:26] <icesword> jpastore, i see.
[13:27] <lostincyberspace> have fun with the live cd first
[13:27] <lostincyberspace> hysteria
[13:28] <Hysteria> yeh i had a little go today in that safe graphics mode
[13:28] <Blackkatt> need some serius help with installing ubuntu on a raid array
[13:28] <Hysteria> seems cool
[13:28] <Blackkatt> got the errors tar'ed need someone to look at them
[13:28] <Hysteria> im just a little confused with creating 3 partitions etc, thatll all be covered in the installation yeh?
[13:28] <icesword> !find libpng
[13:28] <ubotu> Found: libpng-sixlegs-java, libpngwriter0-dev, libpngwriter0c2, libpng12-0, libpng12-dev (and 1 others)
[13:28] <Sturmeh> Hysteria you need one for swap
[13:29] <Sturmeh> and one to 3 more if u want
[13:29] <white_eagle> not that important question, but is there any other game that can be played in the terminal, except moon-buggy?
[13:29] <DistroJockey> Hysteria: yeah, should be, just make sure you have a backup
[13:29] <white_eagle> ...
[13:29] <IdleOne> Hysteria: ummm not exactly.
[13:29] <Sturmeh> white_eagle try cmatrix
[13:29] <Sturmeh> :P
[13:29] <Sturmeh> (22:28:18) (Hysteria) im just a little confused with creating 3 partitions etc, thatll all be covered in the installation yeh?
[13:29] <jatt> !nethack
[13:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nethack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:29] <Sturmeh> try to know what ur doing before u go to install it
[13:29] <IdleOne> Hysteria: you could just let the installer do it's thing
[13:29] <jatt> damn
[13:29] <Sturmeh> lol nethack
[13:30] <jatt> great game
[13:30] <Sturmeh> i don't trust the installer
[13:30] <Sturmeh> don't trust it!
[13:30] <Sturmeh> manual unless u like it eating ur paritions
[13:30] <Hysteria> IdleOne, ive already got XP on here :)
[13:30] <white_eagle> nah, not nethack :)
[13:30] <DistroJockey> that's why you should do a backup ;)
[13:30] <white_eagle> I know that game
[13:30] <Sturmeh> Hysteria do you have unallocated space
[13:30] <icesword> !info nethack
[13:30] <ubotu> Package nethack does not exist in gutsy
[13:30] <jatt> aaaa
[13:30] <jatt> noooo
[13:30] <Blackkatt> !info raid
[13:30] <ubotu> Package raid does not exist in gutsy
[13:30] <white_eagle> !nethack-gnome
[13:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nethack-gnome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:30] <white_eagle> !info nethack-gnome
[13:30] <ubotu> nethack-gnome (source: nethack): Text-based/Gnome overhead view D&D-style adventure game. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.3-10.1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 937 kB, installed size 2040 kB
[13:30] <white_eagle> :D
[13:30] <icesword> :p
[13:31] <Sturmeh> pm Hysteria
[13:31] <jatt> !info nethack-console
[13:31] <Sturmeh> lol
[13:31] <IdleOne> Hysteria: honeslty i am not the best at partitioning issues as I have not yet completly figured it out myself
[13:31] <ubotu> nethack-console (source: nethack): Text-based overhead view D&D-style adventure game. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.3-10.1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 812 kB, installed size 1724 kB
[13:31] <white_eagle> cmatrix isn't a game
[13:31] <white_eagle> haha
[13:31] <jatt> everything is alright
[13:31] <Hysteria> Sturmeh, im not registered cant see ur PM
[13:31] <Sturmeh> ah right
[13:31] <Sturmeh> then put up with this flooding :P
[13:31] <Blackkatt> listen, i want to start using ubuntu instead of crappy windows but i'll also like performence so some help with installing ubuntu on raid arrays plz
[13:31] <ompaul> !dualboot
[13:31] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[13:31] <IdleOne> !register | Hysteria
[13:31] <ubotu> Hysteria: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type ┬½ /nick <nickname> ┬╗ to select your nickname.
[13:31] <Sturmeh> do you have unallocated space Hysteria ?
[13:31] <Hysteria> ??
[13:31] <Hysteria> lol
[13:32] <DistroJockey> Hysteria: do you wish to dual boot with Windows?
[13:32] <Sturmeh> of cause he does
[13:32] <Hysteria> yes DistroJockey
[13:32] <Sturmeh> he has xp
[13:32] <Sturmeh> lol
[13:32] <DistroJockey> heh
[13:32] <Sturmeh> Hysteria do you have unallocated space on your hdd?
[13:32] <Hysteria> naw hes just clarifying Sturmeh :)
[13:32] <DistroJockey> !install
[13:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[13:32] <Blackkatt> DistroJockey:  yes i would like that, but also useing raid :p
[13:32] <Sturmeh> goddamn ! commands!
[13:33] <IdleOne> !ohmy | Sturmeh
[13:33] <ubotu> Sturmeh: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[13:33] <Pirate_Hunter> inst there a gnome music player with music search facility? so i dont have to scroll all thew ay to find my prefered songs?
[13:33] <Sturmeh> lawl
[13:33] <Sturmeh> yes
[13:33] <DistroJockey> Blackkatt: not tried raid yet, that's on my todo list
[13:33] <Sturmeh> exaile
[13:33] <Sturmeh> Pirate_Hunter try exaile
[13:33] <Blackkatt> DistroJockey:  hmm ok :S
[13:33] <Sturmeh> it has search
[13:34] <redDEAD> Pirate_Hunter, exhaile
[13:34] <Pirate_Hunter> Sturmeh: is that gnome and does it have what im looking for?
[13:34] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter: rhythmbox exaile and most of all the apps do
[13:34] <foug> is 8.04 a LTS edition of ubuntu?
[13:34] <Blackkatt> can anyone guide me to a channel that gives support on howto :P in this case install ubuntu on raid arrays? with fakeraid witch seems to be the right way to do it
[13:34] <IdleOne> foug: yes
[13:34] <redDEAD> foug, YES!
[13:34] <Sturmeh> probably Pirate_Hunter
[13:34] <Pirate_Hunter> redDEAD: i guess it does since you recommended it as well
[13:34] <Hysteria> Distrojockey, ive read the graphical installation guide but theres no screenies of creating the partitions for swap, home and ,
[13:34] <foug> IdleOne: redDEAD: awesome, how long will it be supported for?
[13:34] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter: rhythmbox does
[13:35] <Sturmeh> if you don't mind using a kde music player, amarok is also good
[13:35] <redDEAD> Pirate_Hunter, yeah ehaile grown leaps
[13:35] <Sturmeh> defo
[13:35] <IdleOne> foug: if All goes well another 40 years :) but atleast 3
[13:35] <foug> IdleOne: haha, allright cool thanks
[13:35] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne, I dont think rhythmbox has since i cnat find it I had to scroll to the song i wanted
[13:35] <redDEAD> anyone know how to stop rhythmbox from starting everytime I plug in my ipod in Hardy?
[13:35] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne, if it does could you tell me where it is
[13:35] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter: I am looking at it right now. above the list of songs there is a search box
[13:36] <Blackkatt> anyone familjer with installing Ubuntu on raid arrays plz msg me.
[13:36] <Sturmeh> redDEAD its under application prefrences or something
[13:36] <DistroJockey> Hysteria: probably best to have XP as the 1st partition, then a 2GB or so swap partition, then Ubuntu / (root) as the rest (ext3)  IMO
[13:36] <Sturmeh> yea Hysteria do you or don't you have any unallocated space?
[13:37] <Sturmeh> ( answer with my nick )
[13:37] <Hysteria> i dont know what that means Sturmeh
[13:37] <redDEAD> Sturmeh, I changed my preffered media application to Amarok but it still opens rhythmbox
[13:37] <Hysteria> sturmeh, ive just got XP on here
[13:37] <Pirate_Hunter> IdleOne: omg youre right im blind wtf, this aint for real... but serious i can't believe i missed that i guess its my dark theme :(. Thanx
[13:37] <legend2440> redDEAD: got to system>preferences>removeable drives>multimedia
[13:37] <Sturmeh> gah it helps to actually be on ubuntu
[13:37] <IdleOne> Pirate_Hunter: np :)
[13:37] <Sturmeh> redDEAD look around ubuntu prefrences and such for something that is like "default apps"
[13:37] <redDEAD> Hysteria, I think he wants to know if you have some open space on your hard drive
[13:38] <Hysteria> Sturmeh, ive got a 500 gig HD so plenty of space
[13:38] <Sturmeh> yea Hysteria if there is any space that isn't part of the windows partition
[13:38] <Hysteria> ReDEAD, thankyou for your simplified wording haha
[13:38] <IdleOne> that means is only using about 480gig 20 is more then enough for ubuntu
[13:38] <Sturmeh> Hysteria, when I install Windows, i leave 20GB or something for anything else.
[13:38] <IdleOne> XP*
[13:39] <Sturmeh> instead of giving the whole hdd to one partition
[13:39] <SLS> I am running suse 32 bit with 4 GIG of ram... it sees all of it. does ubuntu have a bismp kernel too?
[13:39] <Sturmeh> !bismp
[13:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bismp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:39] <Sturmeh> nfi
[13:39] <Sturmeh> :D
[13:39] <redDEAD> legend2440, it no longer has the option for mp3 players
[13:39] <RainMakesMeWet> redDEAD: there may be a plugin to disable in rhythmbox
[13:39] <redDEAD> legend2440, i think it was moved, ive been looking for it for a couple of weeks
[13:39] <shadowmancer> hey, i know this is seriously off topic, but i am wondering if anyone here knows POSIX
[13:39] <Sturmeh> redDEAD moved in hardy?
[13:40] <bazhang> SLS: you need the 64bit version of ubuntu for that
[13:40] <DistroJockey> Hysteria: How big is your C: drive?
[13:40] <redDEAD> Sturmeh, its no longer in removable drives, been there since dapper
[13:40] <Sturmeh> yea DistroJockey good one
[13:40] <Sturmeh> :P
[13:40] <Hysteria> DistroJockey, ive got 346gb free space
[13:40] <IdleOne> Sturmeh: when I was a kid one time at the dinner table I said " Fudge " and my father got very upset at me for cursing. basicaly told me a rose by another name still smells sweet ( but not so nice like ) using abrbreviations to curse is just as bad as cursing. please watch your language
[13:40] <DistroJockey> settle ;)
[13:41] <Sturmeh> its' all one partiton then i guess
[13:41] <SLS> bazhang, 64 bit is cool but there is so much that just does not work.
[13:41] <Sturmeh> DistroJockey you got any idea on how to "shrink" a partiton properly?
[13:41] <DistroJockey> Hysteria: so I can pretty much assume it's all one big NTFS partition using the whole drive
[13:41] <SLS> bazhang, you can even install acroread
[13:41] <bazhang> SLS: you can see most of that 4gb with the 32bit and a lot less hassle as well
[13:41] <DistroJockey> Hysteria:  Sturmeh: defrag first
[13:42] <Hysteria> DistroJockey: Yeah i think so when i built the computer i just installed XP, didnt touch anything to do with partitioning
[13:42] <IdleOne> DistroJockey: most likely that is what it is as windows just uses everything
[13:42] <DistroJockey> yep
[13:42] <Sturmeh> good idea DistroJockey
[13:42] <SLS> bazhang, will it not limit itself to 3 G?
[13:42] <Sturmeh> but how safe is it to reccomend shrinking partitons to say... people like Hysteria?
[13:42] <Sturmeh> well Hysteria you up for reinstalling xp?
[13:43] <bazhang> SLS: three and some change iirc, closer to 3.5
[13:43] <DistroJockey> Sturmeh: that's why I said backup first :)
[13:43] <legend2440> redDEAD: it moved to Edit / Preferences / Media in Nautilus.
[13:43] <Sturmeh> lawl DistroJockey
[13:43] <IdleOne> Sturmeh: as safe as installing the latest windows "OS"
[13:43] <Sturmeh> (22:41:43) (DistroJockey) Hysteria: Sturmeh: defrag first
[13:43] <Sturmeh> you said defrag first!
[13:43] <Hysteria> Sturmeh, no not right now :) im a student so rly need ma computer
[13:43] <Sturmeh> lol
[13:43] <SLS> bazhang, ok
[13:43] <DistroJockey> go back aways ;P
[13:43] <Sturmeh> well try wubi then Hysteria
[13:43] <Sturmeh> cuz nothing you can do is "fail-safe"
[13:43] <IdleOne> !wubi | Hysteria
[13:43] <Sturmeh> unless you do a full backup
[13:43] <ubotu> Hysteria: wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[13:43] <Sturmeh> and try stuff
[13:43] <Sturmeh> ta IdleOne
[13:44] <Hysteria> wtf is Wubi
[13:44] <IdleOne> Sturmeh: good idea .
[13:44] <Sturmeh> Hysteria look at msg from ubotu
[13:44] <Sturmeh> explains it
[13:44] <bazhang> Hysteria: read the links
[13:45] <Sturmeh> it's basicly ubuntu without separate partitions, installs on a windows partition.
[13:45] <DistroJockey> Sturmeh: (22:29:05) DistroJockey: Hysteria: yeah, should be, just make sure you have a backup
[13:45] <DistroJockey> heh
[13:45] <redDEAD> legend2440, it worked thanks alot
[13:45] <Sturmeh> heh
[13:45] <zumbi_> hello, my ubuntu instal stops configuring APT, saying that Release file is not available, is there a way to bypas that?
[13:46] <Sturmeh> yes
[13:46] <Sturmeh> unplug the internet
[13:46] <Sturmeh> before u install
[13:46] <Sturmeh> or whislt that's happening
[13:46] <Sturmeh> it eventually times out
[13:46] <FloodBot2> Sturmeh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:46] <zumbi_> Sturmeh: it is a ps3 install
[13:46] <Sturmeh> no internet?
[13:47] <Hysteria> I really can not be stuffed haha, didnt realise it would be this difficult
[13:47] <zumbi_> Sturmeh: at first i did not have internet, but now i have internet, i got same error
[13:47] <Sturmeh> ah well the error is solved on pc by removing the net connection, or waiting
[13:47] <DistroJockey> Hysteria: It's not if you have a backup, as you should have :)
[13:47] <zumbi_> i have setup network on F1 screen, but i guess F7 screen is somehow borked
[13:47] <wers> is gnome with openbox really faster than gnome using metacity? :)
[13:47] <bazhang> Hysteria: if wubi is too hard then not sure what to say; that is as easy as any install gets (of any OS)
[13:47] <Sturmeh> DistroJockey I never backup, I just spread my stuff ... :P
[13:48] <DistroJockey> heh, me too
[13:48] <Sturmeh> but Hysteria you are missing out on Compiz Fusion!
[13:49] <albahraniy> hi all
[13:49] <Sturmeh> hi
[13:49] <unop_> !raid
[13:49] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[13:49] <Sturmeh> damn raid
[13:50] <biabia> ok, anyone know how I set bios password in ubuntu
[13:50] <Sturmeh> password on grub biabia?
[13:50] <biabia> already set
[13:50] <DistroJockey> Hysteria: copy all important (do not want to lose stuff) from the HDD you are installing to and then give it a go. But if you can wait 10 days, get Hardy when it's released and install that. Maybe read up on it inbetween :)
[13:50] <Sturmeh> bios password has nothing to do with ubuntu
[13:50] <Pici> biabia: you'd need to set that in your BIOS.
[13:51] <biabia> Ive never messed with BIOS really
[13:51] <Sturmeh> DistroJockey, got any idea when shipit will allow orders for hardy?
[13:51] <Quiz_Master> DistroJockey: Hardy is releasing in 10 days ?
[13:51] <Sturmeh> biabia just press DEL or what it asks for when you boot pc
[13:51] <Quiz_Master> yes when shipit will allow?
[13:51] <Sturmeh> and look for "supervisor password"
[13:51] <Hysteria> DistroJockey, hmmm 10 days? the whole point of getting this was to have a muck around on my 14 day school holidays :(
[13:51] <Sturmeh> Hysteria use gutsy then
[13:51] <biabia> Sturmeh: ok
[13:51] <DistroJockey> that's what  http://www.ubuntu.com/  says
[13:51] <biabia> thanks
[13:52] <DistroJockey> Sturmeh: they say soon after release :)
[13:52] <Sturmeh> i just want to pre-order disc's by shipit
[13:52] <Sturmeh> they let my order gutsy a week in advance
[13:52] <Quiz_Master> :D
[13:52] <Sturmeh> maybe then
[13:52] <DistroJockey> Sturmeh: that would be cool
[13:52] <biabia> theres no need to set root password on ubuntu right
[13:52] <Sturmeh> i mean it DOES take 5 weeks to send
[13:52] <biabia> its better unset?
[13:52] <zumbi_> can i install ubuntu from a text mode term? how? what is the command?
[13:52] <Quiz_Master> biabia: Yes
[13:53] <Sturmeh> biabia why you putting passwords?
[13:53] <IdleOne> biabia: root has no password in ubuntu use your user password
[13:53] <DistroJockey> Hysteria: got a spare hard drive lying around?
[13:53] <Sturmeh> !textinstall
[13:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about textinstall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:53] <bazhang> zumbi_: for the ps3? iirc there is a special version of ubuntu for that--if not the alternate cd does text install
[13:53] <IdleOne> !root | biabia
[13:53] <ubotu> biabia: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:53] <Pici> !alternate | Sturmeh
[13:53] <ubotu> Sturmeh: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[13:53] <Sturmeh> i tried that before
[13:53] <biabia> well i have had pc's stolen before, and if they steal this one I want to make it as difficult as possible for them to use it. I think the people who stole it were not very computer smart, just crackheads
[13:53] <Sturmeh> the bot hates me
[13:54] <zumbi_> bazhang: yes - i'm just trying to save time to download, i have the desktop CD
[13:54] <Sturmeh> !alternate | zumbi_
[13:54] <ubotu> zumbi_: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[13:54] <zumbi_> !minimal
[13:54] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[13:54] <biabia> i am familiar with enabling the root password in ubuntu but i have re-disabled it since there is no need to have it enabled
[13:54] <IdleOne> biabia: well use good passwords and perhaps not leave your computers where people can take them from you
[13:55] <Sturmeh> but biabia putting a password won't get your pc back
[13:55] <Sturmeh> nor will it protect your data from theft
[13:55] <biabia> the computer was in my house
[13:55] <Sturmeh> yea
[13:55] <zumbi_> anyway, i'm already downloading alternate CD
[13:55] <zumbi_> thanks
[13:55] <Sturmeh> kk
[13:55] <xet7> biabia: then use full disk encryption that is option in alternate CD install
[13:56] <biabia> xet7: is it possible to encrypt an exisiting install
[13:56] <Sturmeh> lol xet7 still won't get his pc back
[13:56] <biabia> no it was 3 years ago
[13:57] <biabia> i am not trying to get my pc back nor will comments referring to it agitate me
[13:57] <Sturmeh> you said...
[13:57] <IdleOne> biabia: your issue here is not passwords or pc security. it is home security and we cannot help you with that :/
[13:57] <Sturmeh> (22:53:41) (biabia) well i have had pc's stolen before, and if they steal this one I want to make it as difficult as possible for them to use it. I think the people who stole it were not very computer smart, just crackheads
[13:57] <Sturmeh> after they steal it
[13:57] <ChaosTheory-> Anyone know how to use Texmaker?
[13:57] <Sturmeh> what use is all that stuff?
[13:57] <xet7> biabia: haven't tried if it's possible, and that option is during install of ubuntu alternate cd
[13:57] <Sturmeh> they aren't giving it back
[13:58] <Sturmeh> all that security is to prevent DATA theft, not PC theft
[13:58] <IdleOne> Sturmeh: issues is mute
[13:58] <xet7> biabia: use lock cables?
[13:58] <biabia> no they wont give it back but i will have the satisfaction knowing they couldnt sell it
[13:58] <Sturmeh> huh IdleOne?
[13:58] <biabia> or use it
[13:58] <Pici> !ot
[13:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:59] <Sturmeh> biabia they could just take it to comptuer technician
[13:59] <Sturmeh> even I could remove the procections you want
[13:59] <IdleOne> Sturmeh: we cant help him with this. it is not an Ubuntu or any distro issue it is a personal issue about home security I can sell him a alarm system but that probably would not help anyway so why mention it :)
[13:59] <Sturmeh> so true
[13:59] <Sturmeh> anyway i'm off
[13:59] <Sturmeh> cyaz
[13:59] <IdleOne> later
[14:01] <psykow> hi everybosy
[14:01] <psykow> *d
[14:01] <ElArD> que ha pasado?
[14:02] <IdleOne> !es | ElArD
[14:02] <ubotu> ElArD: Aqu├Ł solamente hablamos ingl├®s. Para Espa├▒ol, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - all├Ł obtendr├Ī m├Īs ayuda.
[14:02] <Quiz_Master> hakuna matata ..alazajira.. hocus pokus
[14:02] <IdleOne> hello psykow
[14:02] <ChaosTheory-> It's not updating the code when I do "viewpdf" with evince?
[14:02] <ChaosTheory-> In Texmaker.
[14:02] <psykow> lol
[14:02] <ElArD> ubotu: ok
[14:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:02] <jimwhimpey> can someone please say my name, I just need an example of high lighting for a screenshot
[14:03] <CapaH> jimwhimpey
[14:03] <jimwhimpey> thanks =)
[14:03] <CapaH> np
[14:03] <Quiz_Master> jimwhimpey: How is this ?
[14:03] <Quiz_Master> oops
[14:03] <jimwhimpey> fantastic
[14:03] <jimwhimpey> now I'll just wait for the rest of the screen to fill
[14:03] <psykow> i have a question
[14:03] <IdleOne> ask it
[14:03] <Quiz_Master> I can fill it with my stupid jokes if u want
[14:03] <Quiz_Master> :D
[14:04] <psykow> i need borland c (i'll run it under wine or something) where do i get it?
[14:04] <ikonia> psykow: you buy it from a shop
[14:04] <jimwhimpey> and there we go, thanks #ubuntu!
[14:04] <ikonia> psykow: that question is nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:05] <Quiz_Master> thats spam
[14:05] <psykow> thx
[14:05] <psykow> sorry
[14:06] <IdleOne> ikonia: but this is linux and we believe in free software! so where can we get propietary software for free should be a question we can answer because as you well know linux users are all hackers !!! hmmm psykow pay for it like a good citizen would do
[14:06] <ikonia> Hmmm
[14:06] <Quiz_Master> hehehe
[14:06] <IdleOne> ikonia: sarcasm does not translate well i know
[14:06] <ChaosTheory-> Anyone here use Texmaker?
[14:07] <unop__> "linux users are all hackers" ?
[14:07] <IdleOne> unop__: heheh
[14:07] <heymr> unop__: crackers
[14:07] <unop__> heymr, really?
[14:08] <bazhang> my msn is broke hlp plz 10x
[14:08] <ikonia> IdleOne: I got it
[14:08] <Pici> !offtopic | heymr unop__
[14:08] <ubotu> heymr unop__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:08] <IdleOne> unop__: was sarcasm
[14:08] <IdleOne> Pici: my bad i started it
[14:09] <IdleOne> bazhang: use pidgin ^5 :P
[14:09] <Juhaz> borland is actually giving out those old versions of the C compiler for free (without the IDE), it's hardly on-topic on this channel, though.
[14:10] <bazhang> IdleOne: just trying to disprove the linux users are hackers ;]
[14:10] <Juhaz> bazhang, it was a joke
[14:10] <IdleOne> bazhang: I know hence the ^5 lol
[14:10] <Quiz_Master> Why u need borland when GCC is there
[14:10] <Quiz_Master> ?
[14:10] <nathan_> anyone good with the gnome menu and how to invoke a console root app?
[14:10] <IdleOne> psykow: why do you need borland anyhow
[14:11] <Quiz_Master> And even if u need an IDE Ajunta is very good
[14:11] <ompaul> nathan_, gksu ProGramName
[14:11] <DistroJockey> Quiz_Master:  I was gonna ask that but didn't wanna be OT ;)
[14:11] <nathan_> ompaul, tried that and failed
[14:11] <ompaul> nathan_, then you ain;t got the program name right
[14:12] <nathan_> I do, I use the name in a terminal and it works like a charm
[14:12] <IdleOne> nathan_: what app?
[14:12] <esperegu> anyone knows a good howto on using squid to cache for apt-get??
[14:13] <nathan_> IdleOne, self-written console app with console output
[14:13] <gregory> esperegu: are you bound to squid or could also setup your own ftp-mirror-server?
[14:13] <IdleOne> nathan_: ahh
[14:14] <nathan_> I changed the gnome-terminal profile already so it doesn't close the window after the app finishes, but no good
[14:14] <Lamego> esperegu, there are speficic apt proxies/cachers, they are probably a better option for apt caching
[14:14] <esperegu> gregory: I would like to keep it very simple.
[14:14] <cdecarlo> hi, I'm looking for a good pulseaudio how to, know where I can find one?
[14:14] <DistroJockey> esperegu: man apt-cache
[14:14] <Lamego> esperegu, try apt-cacher
[14:14] <esperegu> Lamego: Yes I used that. but It would be nice to have it more transperant
[14:14] <bazhang> cdecarlo: for gutsy?
[14:15] <cdecarlo> bazhang: nope, feisty
[14:15] <s_> any software for ubuntu where i can chat and view web cam in msn
[14:15] <bazhang> feisty has pulseaudio?
[14:15] <cdecarlo> it can
[14:15] <maxttor> ─Źo ┼Še
[14:15] <angasule> !mirror
[14:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[14:15] <Lamego> esperegu, I believe it is more efficient to use apt-cacher over squid, the setup is easy, and you just need to change the base urls
[14:16] <esperegu> I used apt-cache before I think. but did not like to have to change all the lines in sources list
[14:16] <sorsis> I\m trying to reinstall grub as bootloader after installing windows on my comp. how do i do it_
[14:16] <IdleOne> !fixgrub | sorsis
[14:16] <ubotu> sorsis: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[14:16] <s_> any software for ubuntu where i can chat and view web cam in msn
[14:16] <IdleOne> !msn
[14:16] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[14:17] <gregory> esperegu: if you make an equation and ask whats faster and easier i would not be sure ending with squid
[14:17] <esperegu> gregory: well. for another location they also need normal caching. so then it would make one solution instead of 2
[14:18] <legend2440> !pulseaudio
[14:18] <ubotu> PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions
[14:18] <esperegu> gregory: I did not find the apt-cache very convenient on my laptop. have to change the lines all the time
[14:19] <s_> any program like msn where i can view webcam
[14:19] <gregory> esperegu: up to you
[14:20] <s_> any help
[14:20] <s_> or
[14:20] <Stroganoff> !ask | s_
[14:20] <ubotu> s_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:20] <bazhang> s_: pidgin or kopete
[14:20] <Quiz_Master> try running msn live messanger using vine
[14:20] <s_> thx
[14:21] <Stroganoff> s_ amsn supports msn webcams
[14:21] <Stroganoff> its in the repos
[14:21] <legend2440> !msn | s_
[14:21] <ubotu> s_: The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[14:21] <Quiz_Master> bazhang: Pidgin and Kopete doesnt supportt WebCam chat
[14:21] <s_> i cant view webcam in amsn
[14:21] <azuki> legend2440: pidgeon doesn't support webcam
[14:21] <Stroganoff> you should, s_
[14:21] <RainMakesMeWet> kopete uses chat
[14:21] <RainMakesMeWet> *web cam chat
[14:21] <azuki> skype?
[14:22] <angasule> we need to mirror ubuntu's repos for an install fest but I can't find any guide to doing it, help please?
[14:22] <s_> i cant c mu bros cam
[14:22] <bazhang> skype beta then
[14:22] <s_> ok
[14:22] <bazhang> angasule: you can do that though will need around 45GB
[14:22] <TwinX>     2WE321Q2Q2QWE32QWRTTRE2QWTEWSZW2QAQWASDSAAsdtgyhi
[14:22] <angasule> bazhang: yes, I know
[14:23] <bazhang> TwinX: human language please
[14:23] <IdleOne> !info falcon
[14:23] <ubotu> Package falcon does not exist in gutsy
[14:23] <IdleOne> hmm
[14:23] <bazhang> angasule: I think hischild did it; you can ask him
[14:23] <s_> what is the name of soft where u can play with ur icons
[14:23] <bazhang> !info apt-mirror
[14:23] <ubotu> apt-mirror (source: apt-mirror): APT sources mirroring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.4-5ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 11 kB, installed size 120 kB
[14:24] <TwinX> bazhang; I spoiled my drink, and trying to save my keyboard :)
[14:24] <bazhang> angasule: apt-mirror might be what you want
[14:24] <gregory> TwinX: one can see that from the sequence of keys :-)
[14:24] <angasule> yes, I have found a good link about it
[14:24] <bazhang> TwinX: ;]
[14:25] <TwinX> :)
[14:25] <s_> what is the name of soft where u can play with ur icons
[14:26] <tim167> how do i remove a message rule in Evolution ?
[14:26] <IdleOne> angasule: http://apt-mirror.sourceforge.net/
[14:26] <bazhang> s_: are you thinking of second life?
[14:27] <s_> why did u do s;th wronh to u
[14:27] <Pici> s_: english please.
[14:27] <IdleOne> haha
[14:27] <bazhang> s_: could you please specify what software app you mean more clearly?
[14:27] <Quiz_Master> lol
[14:28] <IdleOne> Pici: install universal-translator package
[14:28] <s_> i saw that icons can move in some wired way
[14:28] <s_> so i dont know the application name
[14:28] <s_> thats why im asking
[14:28] <bazhang> s_: like in a dock?
[14:28] <s_> yes
[14:28] <s_> thats righht
[14:29] <bazhang> avant-window-navigator s_
[14:29] <s_> thx
[14:29] <xytis> sorry to disturb, but where can i find a place to report a bug in Ubuntu 8.04?
[14:29] <IdleOne> !bug
[14:29] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[14:29] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-avant-window-navgator-in-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon.html s_
[14:30] <TwinX> !bug-buddy
[14:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bug-buddy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:30] <TwinX> !bugbuddy
[14:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugbuddy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:30] <TwinX> hmm
[14:30] <Paavi2_0> !hardy
[14:30] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:30] <s_> thx
[14:30] <xytis> Thanks
[14:30] <unop_> TwinX, ask a question to the room.
[14:30] <unop_> TwinX, or query ubotu in private if you are playing with the bot.
[14:31] <bazhang> TwinX: as unop_ says; /msg ubotu keyword for fun if you wish
[14:32] <TwinX> hey others do that to
[14:32] <Pici> And we say the same thing to them as well.
[14:32] <TwinX> hmm ok
[14:32] <gregory> TwinX: yes, they /msg, so you dont notice it ;-)
[14:32] <grumbel> How do I 'unmount/ungrab' a USB device, i.e. I have a device that gets grabbed by the normal HID driver and I want to free it from it so that I can use it with libusb?
[14:33] <_kevin_> i upgraded to gutsy and installed a kernel module (speakup). now the speakup module is installed into the old kernel (2.6.20.16 i think) and i can't get it to install to the new one which i believe is 2.6.22.14. Reinstalling the module doesn't help, and the source for it is in /usr/src
[14:33] <bazhang> TwinX: I always keep a query open with ubotu
[14:33] <TwinX> :)
[14:33] <Pici> bazhang: Me too.
[14:33] <DJones> TwinX: YOu can also use Ubotu's web interface, that might be better than needing to query ubotu in irc, the web interface will bring up more hits http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[14:33] <bazhang> Pici: I think you have them all memorized ;]
[14:33]  * delcoyote hi
[14:33] <tim167> how do i delete a message filter in Evolution mail program ?
[14:34] <xytis> Another question, if you're using Ubuntu, have you ever discovered strange screen flashing while typing something out of buffer reach? eg. pressing right arrow when you're at the most right char in the line?
[14:35] <tim167> i installed ubuntu on my laptop but i have a black screen, i hear sounds so the system works...what do i do ?
[14:35] <Pici> xytis: Its called the visual beep.
[14:35] <bazhang> tim167: this is gutsy? what is the filter
[14:36] <tim167> bazhang: 7.10, i did ctrl+alt+f1, and now i see terminal but with VERY big letters
[14:36] <compwiz18> tim167: you have a large screen.
[14:36] <xytis> well, the point is that visual beep should flash only the window you're in, right?
[14:37] <bazhang> tim167: was this something other than your question about evolution then?
[14:37] <harveyd> rm -rf |  find . -name ".svn"
[14:37] <tim167> compwiz18: i cant even see what i type until i tap ENTER several times to scroll i up into the visible part
[14:37] <harveyd> would that delete all .svn folders from under where its ran?
[14:37] <_kevin_> how do i make the kernel module install to the new kernel instead of the old one? I even completely removed the old kernel
[14:37] <compwiz18> tim167: then you are also using vga with said very large screen
[14:37] <xytis> but in my case the whole screen refreshes, AND any kind of beep is disabled.
[14:37] <compwiz18> no?
[14:37] <Pici> harveyd: no.
[14:37] <tim167> bazhang: yes the evolutiion question is: how to delete a filter
[14:37] <jrib> harveyd: no ,it would give you an error
[14:37] <Quiz_Master> harveyd: yes i guess
[14:37] <blinkiz> Am looking for a rss program that can give me news directly on my Desktop. Anyone know a good program for this? Am using Compiz.
[14:37] <Quiz_Master> ok
[14:37] <Quiz_Master> got it
[14:38] <Pici> blinkiz: Theres probably a screenlet for it.
[14:38] <compwiz18> depending on your shell, you can also rm -rf **/.svn
[14:38] <bazhang> tim167: which filter? the spam filter?
[14:38] <Pici> !screenlet | blinkiz
[14:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screenlet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:38] <tim167> compwiz18: why? i didnt ask that...i had ubuntu running on it before...now this, how to fix it ? thanks
[14:38] <harveyd> jrib: can you expand on that no? :P
[14:38] <Pici> !screenlets | blinkiz
[14:38] <ubotu> blinkiz: Screenlets are little widgets for your !desktop. Note you must have !Compiz Fusion, !Beryl, xcompmgr, or KWin to run them. You can get them at http://www.screenlets.org/
[14:38] <blinkiz> Pici, yeah, I now about screenlets. Nice tip
[14:38] <Pici> !screenlet is <alias> screenlets
[14:38] <tim167> bazhang: no just message filters
[14:38] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Pici
[14:39] <makiolo> is best find . -name ".svn" | xargs rm
[14:39] <compwiz18> tim167: press ctrl+alt+f7
[14:39] <DJones> Pici: Do you mind a quick pm about a factoid?
[14:39] <Pici> DJones: I don't, but you could always just suggest it to the bot if you wish.
[14:39] <tim167> compwiz18: yes then i get the black screen, no text, no prompt...
[14:39] <bazhang> http://www.go-evolution.org/Filters tim167
[14:40] <jrib> harveyd: what makiolo said will work if you have no directories with spaces, but you need to do rm -r, not rm
[14:40] <BizMan2008> hey what anyone know what setting in ssh would cause there bing problems when trying to vnc through putty from a windows machine ot linux?
[14:41] <harveyd> find . -name ".svn" | xargs rm -rf gave me
[14:41] <harveyd> xargs: unmatched single quote; by default quotes are special to xargs unless you use the -0 option
[14:41] <Pici> blinkiz: what kind of problems?
[14:41] <tim167> bazhang: thanks, it says go to tools>filters, but i dont have that...
[14:41] <blinkiz> Pici, No problem here
[14:41] <Pici> blinkiz: arg, tab complete mishap, sorry about that.
[14:41] <Pici> BizMan2008: What kind of problems?
[14:41] <blinkiz> Pici, :-)
[14:41] <bazhang> Select the filter to be deleted and click on remove and then OK. tim167
[14:42] <jrib> harveyd: so you have weird names.  Do: find -name .svn -print0 | xargs -0 rm -r
[14:42] <cdx> !list
[14:42] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[14:42] <tim167> bazhang: how do i select the filter to be deleted, where can i see them ?
[14:42] <BizMan2008> Pici: well basicially that i cant vnc in :), it will say connection initilized but not go any further
[14:42] <BizMan2008> i have no problem with any other machine si have this setup with
[14:42] <BizMan2008> and i have not done anything differently
[14:43] <Pici> BizMan2008:
[14:43] <BizMan2008> i have determined its ssh because, i can vnc in locally no problem, and again, i can vnc through ssh on my other machines no problem
[14:43] <Pici> hm
[14:43] <harveyd> lots of wierd names
[14:43] <harveyd> its my music folder thats ~60GB that at some point though was a good idea to keep in svn
[14:44] <BizMan2008> Pici: i just set up another linux box from scratch, and i want to do some work here rom my job, but this boggles my mind, i dont know whats not working right here
[14:44] <tim167> how can i see filters in Evolution mail client ?
[14:44] <harveyd> but that command just sits and doesnt do anything, the print0 has all the paths with no spaces between them
[14:44] <jrib> harveyd: huh?
[14:45] <tim167> ook nm, sorry for the noise, found Evolution Edit>Message filters
[14:45] <harveyd> actually, ig might be working, just slowly, sorry
[14:45] <harveyd> *it
[14:45] <BizMan2008> Pici: any ideas?
[14:46] <Pici> BizMan2008: Are you sure that the tunnel is working properly at all? i.e, can you tunnel browser traffic through it?
[14:46] <BizMan2008> i dunno
[14:46] <BizMan2008> i just know how to ssh in and use vnc :)
[14:46] <BizMan2008> how can i tunnel broswer traffic ythrough it
[14:47] <Pici> BizMan2008: Are you just vnc-ing to the same address that you are ssh'ed into?
[14:47] <BizMan2008> no
[14:47] <cheesypieces> hi guys, does anyone have any experience with desklets? i've just downloaded it from synaptic but i have no idea what to do now
[14:47] <BizMan2008> local address
[14:48] <amedx> cheesypieces, i like gdesklets
[14:48] <BizMan2008> Pici: 127.0.0.1:## and the ## is like a foward for port 5900
[14:48] <BizMan2008> this way i dont have open that port on my router
[14:48] <ikonia> cheesypieces: if you've installed them via synaptic - they are alreayd installed
[14:49] <tovare> Hi all, How do I make a samba share readable/writable by all without authentication?  I'm trying to get Microsoft SQL to backup to a share.
[14:49] <miroslav_> hledat cesky ubuntu?
[14:49] <ikonia> tovare: use the anonymous user
[14:49] <ikonia> tovare: or "nobody" user
[14:49] <cheesypieces> ikonia: i know i have them installed, i just don't know how to run them
[14:50] <ikonia> cheesypieces: isnt it a case of just launching gdesklets and selecting which ones you want ?
[14:51] <miroslav_> ─Źesky hled├Īm!
[14:51] <tovare> ikonia: in the shared admin, there's no way to set user permissions.
[14:51] <ikonia> tovare: thats handled at the file system
[14:51] <Pici> BizMan2008: Are you sure its listening on 5900 and not 5901?
[14:51] <miroslav_> to je s├Łla
[14:51] <jpatrick> !cz | miroslav_
[14:51] <ubotu> miroslav_: ─īesk├® u┼Šivatele ┼Š├Īd├Īme, aby mluvili v kan├Īle #ubuntu anglicky. ─īesky je mo┼Šno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. D─økujeme.
[14:51] <BizMan2008> yes
[14:51] <tovare> chown nobody?
[14:51] <BizMan2008> pici 100%
[14:51] <ikonia> tovare: if that is the user your anonymous link is connected to
[14:51] <rsc___> hey guys. can anyone suggest a nice Alarm clock program?
[14:51] <ikonia> rsc___: cron ?
[14:51] <Pici> BizMan2008: The only other thing I can think of is that iptables is blocking it.
[14:52] <zumbi_> does somebody know howto boot manually the minimal ubuntu CD?
[14:52] <BizMan2008> pici: how can i check that
[14:52] <rsc___> ikonia, cron doesn't quite have a snooze function, or an indicator of how long it is till it alarms, or a nice gui... I'm looking for something easy to use. :)
[14:52] <tovare> ikonia: Microsoft SQL isn't a user, it's something special, something evil and hidden.
[14:52] <ikonia> zumbi_: what minimal cd ?
[14:52] <cheesypieces> hmm it keeps telling me there aren't controls available. any ideas?
[14:52] <IdleOne> I installed screenlets but dont see how I enabled screenlets. any help?
[14:53] <ikonia> tovare: no, but it must connect as a user to a share
[14:53] <harveyd> jrib: worked perfectly, cheers
[14:53] <ikonia> tovare: from that point of view its just a user
[14:53] <zumbi_> !minimal
[14:53] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:53] <tim167> i installed ubuntu, i get a black screen (NOT terminal, black, no text) and when going into terminal the letters are so big i cannot see the prompt where i should type
[14:53] <rsc___> IdleOne, go run the screenlets manager :)
[14:53] <jrib> harveyd: no problem
[14:53] <rsc___> IdleOne, alt+f2 and type in "screenlets-manager"
[14:53] <IdleOne> rsc___: thanks
[14:53] <ikonia> tim167: change your boot line to "vga=ask" and select a better framebuffer resolutoin
[14:54] <Pici> BizMan2008: I'm not really sure, perhaps iptables -L.  I usually use firestarter to manager it.
[14:55] <tim167> ikonia: ok, how ?
[14:55] <tim167> ikonia: i mean "change boot line" is too cryptical for me sorry
[14:55] <stuneedshelp> hello @all
[14:55] <ikonia> tim167: boot into grub - hit "e" for edit mode and add vga=ask to the boot line
[14:55] <BizMan2008> Pici: http://pastebin.com/m25588d54 thats the output
[14:56] <BizMan2008> doesnt look like anyhting
[14:56] <tim167> ikonia, thanks i will try
[14:56] <tovare> ikonia: here's my log http://pastebin.com/d578c55b2   it looks like it's trying to create groups, not users.
[14:56] <stuneedshelp> i have a problem with zattoo i can dont delete the apps date... but i am root
[14:56]  * mauro-bls buenas
[14:57] <alx54> hi everyone.. "according to mtab this drive is already mounted" but i still cannot access my data, anyone know why this happens?
[14:57] <tim167>  ikonia: do you mean add a new line with vga=ask in it ?
[14:57] <Pici> BizMan2008: Hrm. Are you sure that the vnc server is running? try: sudo netstat -tanp | less
[14:57] <jrib> alx54: what filesystem?
[14:57] <alx54> ext3
[14:58] <Mactaylor> will i see a speedboost with 64BIT?
[14:58] <Pici> BizMan2008: You're looking for vnc or perhaps vino
[14:58] <alx54> jrib should i pastebin something?
[14:58] <jrib> alx54: where is it mounted?  what permissions are on the mount point?
[14:59] <ikonia> Mactaylor: probably not
[14:59] <alx54> it is mounted in /media/Drivename and i just set chmod 777 on it
[14:59] <alx54> jrib it is mounted in /media/Drivename and i just set chmod 777 on it
[14:59] <sam__> hi guys, how can i automount a drive on boot?
[14:59] <jrib> alx54: what is the output of 'ls -ld /media/Drivename'?
[14:59] <ikonia> alx54: what happens when you cd /media/drivename
[14:59] <ikonia> sam__: put it in your fstab
[14:59] <sam__> ikonia, how?
[14:59] <amedx> FLISOL2008
[14:59] <Mactaylor> is 64bit a pain to set up?
[14:59] <ikonia> sam__: edit the file fstab
[14:59] <ikonia> Mactaylor: not really no
[15:00] <monzie> Hi all
[15:00] <monzie> I am using Ubuntu 7.10 AMD74
[15:00] <monzie> It seems the fluxbox package is broken
[15:00] <monzie> http://pastebin.ca/984662
[15:00] <sam__> ok, what exactly do i put in my fstab folder?
[15:00] <monzie> Can someone help me with this
[15:00] <amedx> monzie, ???
[15:01] <monzie> amedx, please have a look at the pastebin
[15:01] <amedx> monzie, ok
[15:01] <jrib> monzie: pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list and the output of 'apt-cache policy fluxbox libimlib2 libc6'
[15:01] <ikonia> sam__: it's not a folder its a file in the /etc/ directoy, have a look and it should be quite straight forward what you need
[15:02] <monzie> jrib, sources.list http://pastebin.ca/984664
[15:02] <b4l74z4r> is gthumb open source?
[15:02] <sam__> ok, it seems i need a uuid, a default mountpoint ect
[15:02] <cheesypieces> hi guys, do you know the difference between gdesklets and screenlets?
[15:02] <alx54> jrib
[15:02] <alx54> alx@alx:~$ sudo ls -ld /media/Eigenschaften
[15:02] <alx54> drwxrwxrwx 15 root root 4096 2008-04-10 19:12 /media/Eigenschaften
[15:02] <ikonia> sam__: thats right
[15:02] <amedx> monzie, system>administration>synaptic search broken packages
[15:02] <sam__> ok, how can i find the uuid
[15:02] <ikonia> cheesypieces: 2 different engines
[15:02] <Achoth> When I press ctrl+alt+F1 in the hope of getting a command line, all I get is a flashing underscore on the top and I can't write anything. What could the problem be? X-server (ctrl+alt+F7) works fine
[15:03] <rsc___> cheesypieces, they're just different widget engines. they have different widget formats, they work differently...
[15:03] <alx54> jrib i can cd to the path /media/Eigenschaften no error message
[15:03] <monzie> jrib, 'apt-cache policy fluxbox.... " http://pastebin.ca/984665
[15:03] <sam__> so, how exactly do i find a drive uuid?
[15:03] <jrib> alx54: k, so what doesn't work exactly?
[15:03] <srbaker> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ogmaciel/2178972465/
[15:03] <ikonia> sam__ blkid
[15:03] <cheesypieces> ok, well i've now installed them both, and i'm not keen on gdesklets, but i can't find how to use screenlets
[15:03] <gregory> b4l74z4r: yes, its GPL
[15:03] <srbaker> can someone tell me what program the purple face icon is for in that link?
[15:03] <ikonia> srbaker: why have you posted this
[15:04] <tim167> i have to add 'vga=ask' to the grub boot line...what is the boot line ? i hit 'ESC', then 'e', then im not shure where exactly to add the "vga=ask"...
[15:04] <arvind_khadri> Achoth, after that press Alt+F1
[15:04] <srbaker> i want to know what program the purple icon represetns
[15:04] <monzie> amedx, no packages are broken
[15:04] <ikonia> srbaker: it could be anything
[15:04] <amedx> monzie, are u sure?
[15:04] <srbaker> ok
[15:04] <srbaker> thx
[15:04] <rsc___> cheesypieces, run the screenlets manager. press alt+f2 and type in screenlets-manager
[15:04] <b4l74z4r> gregory, but why isn't it possible to change its behaviour so that one can use the mouse wheel to zoom images?
[15:04] <Achoth> arvind_khadri: Nothing happens
[15:04] <amedx> monzie, check it out again!!!
[15:05] <gregory> b4l74z4r: sorry, i have no exp with this program
[15:05] <jrib> alx54: notice that the 777 permissions apply only to /media/Eigenschaften, not the stuff under it
[15:05] <tim167> i added it after the line starting with 'kernel', i think...but nothing changed, still black blank screen when booting and ridiculously large letters in ctrl+alt+f1 terminal
[15:05] <arvind_khadri> Achoth, hmm well i dont know anything about it
[15:05] <monzie> amedx, yeah
[15:05] <ikonia> tim167: show me the line you changed
[15:05] <ikonia> tim167: and show me how you changed it
[15:05] <sam__> what options do i want on the automounted drive?
[15:05] <monzie> amedx, says no broken packages
[15:05] <cheesypieces> rsc___: thats great, thanks
[15:06] <ikonia> sam__: none
[15:06] <ikonia> sam__: just use default
[15:06] <amedx> monzie, mmm
[15:06] <sam__> ok
[15:06] <sam__> defaults
[15:06] <alx54> jrib wasnt thers something like chmod 777 * or so to apply it to subfolders?
[15:06] <Achoth> arvind_khadri: It's very weird, that the X-server works but not the CLI is fundamentally insane
[15:06] <amedx> monzie, try again install fluxbox
[15:06] <jrib> alx54: are you sure that is what you want?
[15:06] <tim167> ikonia, i tried adding vga=ask after the line starting with kernel /boot/vmlinuz... but now on reboot i see its gone again...
[15:06] <alx54> yes, im the only user of this pc
[15:06] <sam__> done editing, so it should automount whenever i boot now?
[15:06] <alx54> jrib yes, im the only user of this pc
[15:07] <arvind_khadri> Achoth, why do you want that terminal
[15:07] <tim167> ikonia, sorry i cant copy paste the line...
[15:07] <ikonia> tim167: thas interesting so that's being ignored
[15:07] <monzie> amedx, http://imagebin.ca/view/dRX3eXM.html
[15:07] <sam__> my fstab has this line in it now #/dev/sdb1
[15:07] <sam__> UUID=c1f0af8f-b514-48a1-b3c0-c4d2d786d7da /media/sparedrive ext3 defaults 0
[15:07] <sam__> will that automount?
[15:07] <ikonia> tim167: it should ask you for display option
[15:07] <jrib> alx54: sudo chmod -R 777 /media/Eigenschaften   (if you apply this to the wrong place, your install will be broken)
[15:07] <ikonia> sam__: yes
[15:07] <monzie> amedx, no the install is not happening , same error.
[15:07] <sam__> when its mounted who will have permissions to edit it?
[15:07] <Achoth> arvind_khadri: Sometimes it's more efficient, and it's nice not having lots of terminals on the desktop
[15:08] <alx54> jrib its a storage drive, should be safe to do that right?
[15:08] <ikonia> sam__: mount it and set the permissions your want
[15:08] <jrib> monzie: run 'sudo apt-get update' and try installing libimlib2
[15:08] <tim167> ikonia TAB-autocompleting after vg says 'unrecognized device string'
[15:08] <sam__> will those be saved?
[15:08] <jrib> alx54: yes
[15:08] <ikonia> it's a kernel parameter, it won't tab complete
[15:08] <ikonia> sam__: yes
[15:08] <amedx> monzie, apt-get update
[15:08] <harsh1> How to check which program is trying to access my Internet connection in Ubuntu 7.10?
[15:08] <ikonia> harsh1: tcpdump ?
[15:08] <arvind_khadri> Achoth, how do I come back from there if i log into it
[15:09] <amedx> harsh1, in U router
[15:09] <Achoth> arvind_khadri: ctrl+alt+F7
[15:09] <harsh1> ikonia: I am sorry, I could't understand what you were trying to tell?
[15:09] <arvind_khadri> Achoth, the thing works fine for me
[15:09] <efirewick> Hi
[15:09] <ikonia> harsh1: use tcpdump on snoop on your network interface, ntop may even tell you
[15:10] <Achoth> arvind_khadri: It should for me too :/
[15:10] <amedx> monzie, what happend?
[15:10] <monzie> amedx, imlib2 installed
[15:10] <monzie> amedx, waiting for fluxbox to install
[15:10] <amedx> monzie, ok
[15:10] <harsh1> ikonia: Thanks, does it has an GUI interface or do I have to use commands, in order to use it.
[15:11] <arvind_khadri> Achoth, hmm well there must be something thats not proper at your end....i think the best place to ask this would be mailing list or the ubuntu forums
[15:11] <ikonia> no gui
[15:11] <monzie> amedx, yup done :)
[15:11] <arvind_khadri> Achoth, which ubuntu do you use?
[15:11] <amedx> monzie, ;)
[15:11] <monzie> amedx, jrib thanks a lot . Soln was ( apt-get install imlib2 + apt-get install fluxbox ) . Dont know why i had to do it one after another though
[15:11] <Achoth> arvind_khadri: You're right, I've asked 3 times here now, no answer yet. I use Ubuntu 7.10
[15:11] <alx54> jrib just another question if u dont mind... since this is an internal drive, i want it to mount on startup, but that didnt work with this line in fstab "/dev/hdb1 	/media/Eigenschaften 	ext3 	rw,defaults,umask=0000 	0 	2"
[15:11] <jrib> monzie: the real solution was probably just the apt-get update
[15:12] <BizMan2008> Pici: its definatley running, like i said i can vnc in locally without ssh
[15:12] <A[D]minS> !iptables
[15:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[15:12] <alx54> jrib and when i replaced /dev.. with the UUID it also didnt work
[15:12] <efirewick> I installed apache, mysql, and php. I have found enough info on installation but none on how to configure and use. Does anyone no of any documentation how I can learn to use this software?
[15:12] <jrib> alx54: ext3 does not use the umask option
[15:12] <arvind_khadri> Achoth, did you try the ubuntu official forum,google, and yeah try www.linuxforums.org too
[15:12] <rsc___> you cant chmod 777 * on /media/Eigenschaften (or wherever)
[15:12] <alx54> aah, so just leave it out jrib?
[15:12] <rsc___> oops nevermind
[15:12] <jrib> alx54: "defaults" should work fine
[15:12] <slowlearner> efirewick do you what these softwares are for?
[15:13] <alx54> ok jrib, thanks alot!
[15:13] <Achoth> arvind_khadri: Yep, no hits, this is on ordinary problem
[15:13] <rsc___> seems like actually you can
[15:13] <rsc___> :p
[15:13] <arvind_khadri> Achoth, people wont answer if they dont know the answer
[15:13] <Achoth> arvind_khadri: Well, of course
[15:13] <efirewick> slowlearner, I am trying to set up a customer database.
[15:13] <arvind_khadri> Achoth, i too am finding it wierd,dont have high hopes that it would get solved :( but jus try linuxforums
[15:14] <Achoth> arvind_khadri: That I shall, thanks
[15:14] <slowlearner> efirewick have you successfully installed them?
[15:14] <arvind_khadri> Achoth, you are welcome
[15:14] <hubuntu> any spanish speaking ubunteros help please reviewing the server presentation (updated for Hardy) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EcuadorTeam/MaterialPOP/Presentaciones#head-3f7f2147988eff452698e2fe6e2290e1e897278a - feedback by uploading revisions on the wiki or sendign me an email: hubuntu@gmail.com
[15:14] <hubuntu> thanx in advance
[15:15] <Sturmeh> iz bak!
[15:16] <Sturmeh> Hysteria still around?
[15:16] <efirewick> slowlearner; yes, but I have no idea how to use them, and I have searched for info and found none...
[15:16] <Matrikz> quick n00b question
[15:16] <Sturmeh> just ask
[15:16] <siq> hi i've installed network-manager-pptp and the associated packages that go with it, but the vpn client isn't showing up in the network icon
[15:16] <slowlearner> efirewick apache is your webserver
[15:16] <jamiejackson> where are ubuntu's "bookmarks" kept? i want to know how to edit/delete them
[15:16] <Matrikz> what do i need to do to use putty to get into my ubuntu box?
[15:17] <slowlearner> efirewick try http://localhost on your computer, if something shows up, apache is successfully installed
[15:17] <efirewick> slowlearner; I can log into the test page from any of my computers to the server.
[15:17] <Sturmeh> jamiejackson what do you mean by ubuntu bookmarks
[15:17] <troythetechguy> Last night I was playing with nmap, and discovered my lap top running Ubuntu has port 25 open.  I understand this is the SMTP port, but I did not open it.  Is this normal?
[15:17] <jamiejackson> Sturmeh: Places >> Bookmarks
[15:17] <arvind_khadri> Matrikz, whats putty
[15:18] <jamiejackson> putty's an ssh client
[15:18] <Matrikz> ssh for windows
[15:18] <LollinopiL> i everyone!! how can I see and edit the partitions with ubuntu ?
[15:18] <ihcer> hello
[15:18] <lutz_> join #midori
[15:18] <monzie> I am having problems with the nginx package:
[15:18] <Sturmeh> LollinopiL use gpart, included in the ubuntu live cd
[15:18] <Cromag> LollinopiL: gparted will help you i think.
[15:18] <hansjd> hi there guys... i was thinking if anyone can tell me how to install the kernel source files?
[15:18] <Cromag> !gparted
[15:18] <ubotu> GParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type ┬½ sudo apt-get install gparted ┬╗ in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[15:18] <slowlearner> efirewick php is your programming language, go to php.net for more info
[15:18] <Sturmeh> whoops yea, gparted not gpart
[15:18] <Sturmeh> <_<
[15:18] <siq> hi i've installed network-manager-pptp and the associated packages that go with it, but the vpn client isn't showing up in the network icon near the clock, anyone know how to fix this?
[15:18] <LollinopiL> Stu gpart is only avaible with the live cd ?
[15:19] <LollinopiL> why ? ?
[15:19] <jamiejackson> LollinopiL: it's in the distro too
[15:19] <BizMan2008> Pici: vnc
[15:19] <Sturmeh> LollinopiL you can apt-get gparted
[15:19] <efirewick> slowlearner; That helps. Thank you.
[15:19] <LollinopiL> kk
[15:19] <jamiejackson> LollinopiL: applications >> system tools >> qtparted
[15:19] <Sturmeh> qtparted?
[15:19] <jamiejackson> that's what i've got, anyway
[15:19] <Sturmeh> use add/remove programs in the first menu LollinopiL
[15:20] <Sturmeh> Gparted should be a ubuntu standard app.
[15:20] <crazytalk2> i am using linux :D
[15:20]  * crazytalk2 cheers
[15:20] <Sturmeh> good on you crazytalk2
[15:20] <LollinopiL> sudo apt-get install gparted
[15:20] <LollinopiL> ^.^
[15:20] <Sturmeh> not sure on that one
[15:20] <efirewick> slowlearner; Oh, it's written close to html...
[15:20] <shishirm1> hi guys suggest something for download management which will gel with firefox and continue to stopped download and stuff... some thing like DAP
[15:21] <arvind_khadri> shishirm1, bit-torrent
[15:21] <shishirm1> i meant "continue stopped downloads from where they were stopped
[15:21] <Sturmeh> Down them all?
[15:21] <Sturmeh> resuming downloaded files is highly dependant on whether the server you are downloading from supports it or not shishirm1
[15:21] <monzie> amedx, http://pastebin.ca/984689
[15:22] <Sturmeh> it helps for links to be direct for this, also shishirm1
[15:22] <jamiejackson> where are ubuntu's "bookmarks" kept? i want to know how to edit/delete them
[15:22] <amedx> monzie, wait a moment please!!!
[15:22] <shishirm1> arvind_khadri: it doesnt gel with firefox and i am talking usual file download or http download or ftp download not torrents
[15:22] <Morydd> when running apt I'm getting "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/http could not be found."
[15:22] <Sturmeh> jamiejackson no idea
[15:22] <Sturmeh> i just use firefox
[15:22] <slowlearner> shishirm1 gwget
[15:23] <gregory> hansjd: run this and then install the package with apt-get: apt-cache search linux kernel headers | grep `uname -r`
[15:23] <Morydd> there is nothing at all in /usr/lib/apt/methods/
[15:23] <LollinopiL> i'm doing the backup .... and sometimes it stops in VD1 - BEGINNER.000
[15:23] <LollinopiL>  for som minutes ... is it normal ?
[15:23] <hansjd> gregory, thanx
[15:23] <e1mer> !info apt-mirror
[15:23] <ubotu> apt-mirror (source: apt-mirror): APT sources mirroring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.4-5ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 11 kB, installed size 120 kB
[15:23] <jamiejackson> Sturmeh: you use firefox bookmarks for file system resources?
[15:23] <stjepan> hi
[15:23] <shishirm1> Sturmeh: the firefox manager resumes downloading if stopped abruptly?
[15:23] <harsh1> My Network usage always reports, I am uploading 217 kb/s and I am receiving 391 Kb/s (varies evry time), even if my computer is idle in Ubuntu 7.10?
[15:23] <stjepan> can I somehow limit speed of my network interface?
[15:23] <gregory> hansjd: take care, these are ` and not '
[15:23] <Matrikz> anyone?
[15:23] <Sturmeh> jamiejackson i would if i had no other idea :P
[15:23] <Sturmeh> ah you mean places
[15:24] <arvind_khadri> shishirm1, try d4x
[15:24] <hansjd> gregory, copy paste :D
[15:24] <jamiejackson> Sturmeh: well, Places >> Bookmarks, anyway
[15:24] <Sturmeh> harsh1 is this "Local Network" or "Internet" usage?
[15:24] <Sturmeh> got no idea jamiejackson ( as to where they are stored )
[15:24] <shishirm1> arvind_khadri: what is tat?
[15:24] <hansjd> gregory, and if i want it i just use apt-get instead?
[15:25] <slowlearner> tat - turn arount time?
[15:25] <lartza_> Could someone help me on problem with nucleus?
[15:25] <slowlearner> :D
[15:25] <arvind_khadri> shishirm1, its a download manager then "freeloader" is also there
[15:25] <lartza_> I can't get finnish characters to work.
[15:25] <daire> i just installed 7.04 and my update manager is downloading 200 updates, will this update the os as well as, or just certain applications?
[15:25] <slowlearner> lartza_ that's a cms
[15:25] <gregory> hansjd: c+p the output from apt-cache to apt-get
[15:25] <lartza_> I know
[15:25] <lartza_> Well a blog
[15:25] <shishirm1> freeloader is too plain.. i tried some probs with it too.. starts downloading into tmp folder if i restart by mistake the download goes waste
[15:26] <slowlearner> lartza_ I suggest you go to their support page
[15:26] <gregory> hansjd: only until the first space - after "-" is package description and not name anymore
[15:26] <itguru> I have an internal email server which has been setup, but it seems that mail delivered from this system gets classed as SPAM with google. I have a static IP, if I add this IP to our DNS, will this then prevent our mail being classed as spam?
[15:26] <lartza_> slowlearner: I already posted to forums, but answers there are not so frequent
[15:26] <arvind_khadri> shishirm1, try dx4
[15:26] <lartza_> I have experience from that
[15:26] <harsh1> Sturmeh: I am chcking this in System Monitor utility in Resources Tab.
[15:26] <efirewick> Hello, I am new to php, and was wondering if there are any pre-made database sources available for download.
[15:27] <Sturmeh> harsh1 do you have a home network?
[15:27] <jrib> daire: 7.04 stays 7.04 unless you tell it you want to upgrade to a newer version explicitly
[15:27] <Pici> daire: Its just updating applications and perhaps the kernel, but only within your release.
[15:27] <harsh1> Sturmeh: No
[15:27] <gregory> efirewick: try #php
[15:27] <hansjd> gregory, i just get this...
[15:27] <hansjd> hansjd@hansjd-ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get linux-headers-2.6.24-12-generic
[15:27] <hansjd> E: Invalid operation linux-headers-2.6.24-12-generic
[15:27] <shishirm1> arvind_khadri: does it have a site or something?
[15:27] <efirewick> gregory: thanks
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> hansjd, apt-get install
[15:27] <shishirm1> arvind_khadri: i wanna see it first b4 i try it
[15:27] <arvind_khadri> shishirm1, nope i dont know jus apt-get it
[15:28] <Jizzo> so you need to redownload the install CD if you wanna upgrade from 7.10 to 8.xx in 10 days?
[15:28] <Sturmeh> harsh1 check your isp usage and make sure you haven't been using "alot" or anything, it's probably local throughput.
[15:28] <hansjd> ah... stupid me... kinda new to ubuntu
[15:28] <shishirm1> arvind_khadri: cant play with my ubuntu installation its got some project stuff
[15:28] <hansjd> or linux
[15:28]  * jochmenDS background
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:28] <Pici> hansjd: 2.6.24 is not in Gutsy.
[15:28] <daire> jrib/pici: ty, i will look into updating to a new version, i wasn't able to download and burn a fresh cd
[15:28] <Sturmeh> harsh1 i take you aren't downloading updates or anything when you are "idle"
[15:28] <jrib> !upgrade > daire (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:28] <daire> ty
[15:28] <daire> :)
[15:29] <stjepan> anyone knows, how can I limit my network speed?
[15:29] <gullstad> Hello. How can I create a user whit limited disc-space?
[15:29] <harsh1> Sturmeh: No, none of the programs that uses Internet like Torrent clients etc are running.
[15:29] <efirewick> gregory: Are you talking about the chat room #php?
[15:29] <slowlearner> efirewick what are you actually looking for?
[15:30] <Sturmeh> harsh1 disconnect your internet cables for a moment and see if the activity stops, and if anything produces an error etc.
[15:30] <Sturmeh> harsh1 and then come back ofcause
[15:30] <gregory> gullstad: you need to use "diskquota". have a first look here f.e. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=453358
[15:30] <harsh1> Sturmeh: ok, but one question before disconnecting.
[15:31] <Sturmeh> as many as you like harsh1
[15:31] <ishbibenob> cam someone tell me how to extract a tar.gz file as root
[15:31] <slowlearner> sudo tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[15:31] <efirewick> slowlearner: Sorry, wrong window... I was trying to type in #php, and I am reading about it on another computer... Got mixed up...
[15:31] <ishbibenob> thanks
[15:31] <Sturmeh> thats the one
[15:32] <harsh1> Sturmeh: What information will be displayed in the System Monitor->Resources(Tab)->Network History->(Received, sent)?
[15:32] <leeping2008> Hey there .. At my job, I usually have many emacs windows open, and I wish the buttons on the taskbar would actually display the text file that emacs is editing.  Anyone know how to do this?
[15:32] <Morydd> when running apt I'm getting "E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/http could not be found."
[15:32] <Morydd> there is nothing at all in /usr/lib/apt/methods/
[15:33] <slowlearner> harsh1, if you click you can see for yourself
[15:33] <Sturmeh> google the error Morydd refrain from repeating it here
[15:33] <Sturmeh> harsh1 not sure what you mean, it logs network activity.
[15:33] <crazytalk_> /who crazytalk_
[15:34] <riotkittie> we're telling people to google now?
[15:34] <crazytalk_> :O
[15:34] <Sturmeh> u google errors
[15:34] <Sturmeh> it's very unlikely someone in here has encountered the same error message and remembers it
[15:34] <Sturmeh> if they have they would have said it already
[15:34] <Morydd> Sturmeh: I have googled the error and did not find information that helped, hence asking here. And since I did not get a response I thought it may have gotten lost in the backscroll.
[15:34] <zacccisco> ciao
[15:34] <harsh1> Sturmeh: I was asking this question because this is the place where it is showing Sent=317 Kb/s and received=117 kb/s, is this normal?
[15:34] <zacccisco> !list
[15:34] <jpatrick> !it | zacccisco
[15:34] <ubotu> zacccisco: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:35] <gregory> leeping2008: hmm, emacs is not in ubuntu default, before having to wait here for a longer time try #emacs
[15:35] <Sturmeh> can someone confirm what harsh1 is asking, I am not currently on ubuntu
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Morydd, HAve you added your own sources?
[15:35] <Blinny> I'm running an updated Hardy Beta right now, with 8GB RAM. Unfortunately, after a recent kernel update (to 2.6.24-16-generic) my kernel is only seeing 3GB. I had understood that Ubuntu was no longer separating 32 and 64-bit kernels, hence the -generic. What do I need to fix so that I boot into the 64-bit kernel?
[15:35] <Pici> Blinny: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[15:35] <spelling> what are the green/blue distros other than suse/fedora
[15:35] <amenado> harsh1-> are you downloading or transferring files at the moment? or maybe streaming videos ?
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy > Blinny
[15:35] <Blinny> Cool. Thanks folks.
[15:35] <Sturmeh> Morydd hope you find a solution, i find ubuntu forums very helpful.
[15:36] <Morydd> Jack_Sparrow: only restricted/universe/multiverse
[15:36] <spelling> what are the green/blue distros other than suse/fedora
[15:36] <slowlearner> harsh1 thats normal
[15:36] <leeping2008> Thanks, gregory
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Morydd, what is the command you are giving that generates that error
[15:36] <Pici> spelling: I dont know what you are asking, but it sounds like it has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[15:36] <Pici> spelling: Perhaps try ##linux
[15:37] <harsh1> amenado: No, this is the scenario that happens everytime and no windows are opened in any of my 4 Desktops.
[15:37] <Morydd> Jack_Sparrow: apt-get update
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Morydd, please run this for me..  sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[15:38] <macusercanada> hi all - I need help - I had edubuntu running on an old clamshell iBook - I installed the beta of full ubuntu 8.04 last night and now I have no mouse movement either by USB mouse or the trackpad - any ideas?
[15:38] <Sturmeh> spelling what are you asking?
[15:38] <spelling> Pici haha your distro is a yellow
[15:38] <spelling> Sturme i need a distro with green or blue theme
[15:38] <welshdude> Very stupid question, I have a 2nd hard drive with all my important stuff stored on it, when after I install Ubuntu, will it have no probems reading the files on it as it was orignaly formated by windows. i think thats fat32 by defult
[15:38] <slowlearner> harsh1 it's telling you that you are currently connected to a network because you are transferring and receiving data
[15:38] <spelling> as default
[15:38] <twoface_> welshdude: no problem
[15:38] <slowlearner> spelling fedore
[15:38] <amenado> harsh1-> then I say its not normal to have 300+ kb/s
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> welshdude, not a problem
[15:38] <welshdude> thanks
[15:39] <slowlearner> spelling fedora is blue by default
[15:39] <spelling> slowlearner what else
[15:39] <jochmenDS> you can make it look any colour you want themes gnome
[15:39] <amenado> harsh1-> try to use    lsof -i   to show what sockets you have opened
[15:39] <Morydd> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastoid.com/ha
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> macusercanada, Please ask in #Ubuntu+1
[15:39] <slowlearner> spelling kubuntu i think is blue too
[15:39] <macusercanada> thanks
[15:40] <spelling> slowlearner hate kubuntu
[15:40] <jochmenDS> or black theme
[15:40] <Pici> spelling, slowlearner: Please take this discussion elsewhere, it has nothing to do with Ubuntu, perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux if they tolerate it there.
[15:40] <sint> hey, i got an intel 3945 card and i tried ipw3945 as well as iwl driver and i can't get anything to work. it shows a connection with ifconfig but i can't ping anything. anyone have an idea?
[15:40] <nyigu> I've just made my first package, a simple installer wrapper around Oracle's SQL developer.  Feedback welcome re http://blog.kizoom.com/2008/04/packaging-oracle-sql-developer-for.html
[15:40] <harsh1> amenado: I did it, shall I post the output, its 2 or 3 line?
[15:40] <hischild> sint, your target is refusing ping?
[15:40] <amenado> sint-> is your client associated with the AP? it has an ip address?
[15:41] <sint> amenado: ya ifconfig shows an ipadress
[15:41] <amenado> harsh1-> nope, you try to figure it out ifyou do have that connectivity, i dont know what you got running
[15:41] <amenado> sint-> is your client associated with the AP?
[15:41] <sint> hischild: how do you mean refusing? all packages are lost
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Morydd, nothing jumps out at me there.  have you edited out sources you have used in the past..
[15:42] <hischild> sint, what are you trying to ping?
[15:42] <sint> amenado: how to find out?
[15:42] <sint> hischild: my APs ip
[15:42] <sint> or google
[15:42] <sint> both not working
[15:42] <amenado> sint iwconfig wlan0
[15:42] <Morydd> Jack_Sparrow: no. I'm just getting used to ubuntu from debian, so I haven't started experimenting yet. :)
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Morydd, what have you installed manually?
[15:44] <hischild> sint, can you access internet at all? like the AP's site? does your AP block pings?
[15:44]  * tovare finally just purchased an external harddrive instead of trying to get Microsoft SQL to write to a samba share.
[15:45] <Morydd> Jack_Sparrow: several things from .deb files.
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Morydd, was this a feisty install you upgraded to gutsy?
[15:45] <harsh1> amenado: ok, only one command is being displayed below "Command" column and its "Pidgin", its the program that I am using to communicate with you.
[15:45] <Morydd> Jack_Sparrow: yes.
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Morydd, Ok, one of those debs is what is messing you up..
[15:45] <sint> amenado, hischild: just a second i've switched back to ipw3945 driver and its not finding anything now
[15:46] <amenado> harsh1-> i assume then thats the one that takes up that bandwidth
[15:46] <harsh1> amenado: another line tells its "k.freenode.net:ircd (ESTABLISHED)"
[15:46] <mysterycool> hey
[15:46] <Morydd> Jack_Sparrow: Is there a simple way to hunt through them, or am I likely going to have to uninstall each and test for the broken one?
[15:47] <mysterycool> Ok so I downloaded Google Earth and it's a .bin. How can I install it?
[15:47] <noodlesgc> mysterycool type ./<.bin file>
[15:47] <sint> amenado: i got no wlan0 its named as eth1
[15:47] <mysterycool> ty :D
[15:47] <mysterycool> =]
[15:47] <mysterycool> =D
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Morydd, no easy way to do it..
[15:47] <sorsis> i would like to start using 8.02. any HOWTO available?
[15:47] <Morydd> That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for the help.
[15:47] <sint> hischild: the system has no internet at all. i am on a second computer
[15:48] <kongove> hello,everyone
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Morydd, SOunds like you used a deb from debian repo that was not available in ubuntu.. (for a reason)
[15:48] <amenado> sint then use iwconfig eth1
[15:48] <gregory> sorsis: are you stuck somewhere?
[15:48] <dmsuperman_> 'lo everybody
[15:49] <jochmenDS> is there an limit to how many can enter this ubuntu irc channel?
[15:49] <sorsis> gregory: what should i do for sources list?
[15:49] <sint> amenado: i can't paste the output since its on the laptop. but it shows some data about the wificard but it says: unassociated
[15:50] <mysterycool> help
[15:50] <mysterycool> root@user-desktop:~/Desktop/softs# ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[15:50] <mysterycool> bash: ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin: Permission denied
[15:50] <ikonia> jochmenDS: join #ubuntu-irc for irc dicussion/qestions
[15:50] <sorsis> gregory: what is release name of 8.02
[15:50] <ikonia> mysterycool: change the permissions
[15:50] <daire> i installed ubuntu about an hour ago and it will not power down after i try to restart or shut it down. i get the black ubuntu screen with the progress bar for a second and then there is no progress bar and nothing happens
[15:50] <mysterycool> ?
[15:50] <ikonia> mysterycool: make it executable by your user
[15:50] <mysterycool> ikonia: i am through root...
[15:50] <ikonia> mysterycool: man chown and man chmod
[15:50] <gregory> !hardy > sorsis
[15:50] <sint> amendO: but it shows the essid and the frequency from the AP and stuff
[15:50] <ikonia> mysterycool: your shouldn't be root
[15:50] <mysterycool> ...
[15:50] <ikonia> mysterycool: being root doesn't make a file executable
[15:51] <jochmenDS> right klick and edit permissions
[15:51] <sint> but it says encryption key: off .. the AP in encrypted with wpa2
[15:51] <hischild> mysterycool, chmod +x <.bin file>
[15:51] <tomoyuki28jp> How I can make my grub not to ask me to select a which version of kernel to boot?
[15:51] <amenado> sint sure you can make a copy and paste it, but you didnt seem to think it is important...anyhow..if its un-associated then try to get it to associate
[15:51] <slowlearner> mysterycool cmod +x file
[15:51] <harsh1> amenado: Thanks for your help, time and patience, I will run this command and check whenever required, bye for now and thanks once again.
[15:51] <slowlearner> *chmod
[15:51] <dmsuperman_> tomoyuki28jp: there's an option in your /boot/grub/menu.lst toward the top
[15:51] <amenado> tomoyuki28jp-> look into man grub  the option default
[15:51] <sint> amenado: how?
[15:52] <tomoyuki28jp> dmsuperman_: amenado:  Thanks for your info.  I will take a look at it.
[15:52] <amenado> sint to make a copy? look at your other computer copy it over to this working one, type it letter by letter?
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> tomoyuki28jp, edit grub menu and remove all but the option you want
[15:52] <ikonia> tomoyuki28jp: change the timeout to 0
[15:52] <dmsuperman_> tomoyuki28jp: no problem
[15:52] <ikonia> tomoyuki28jp: or use the noask option
[15:53] <dmsuperman_> Jack_Sparrow: the default option is better, because then you can still have the options should you choose to go into recovery mode :)
[15:53] <dmsuperman_> does anybody know if it's possible to open one of my currently open tty's with ssh?
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> dmsuperman_, agreed.
[15:53] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: no
[15:53] <bhsx> how can i really tell if my ati drivers are being used?  i cant seem to get compiz to work... and gl screensavers are only getting like 13FPS (i have an ati x300)
[15:54] <ikonia> dmsuperman_: screen would be the only tool to allow that
[15:54] <sint> amenado: just a second, i will plug a cable in there
[15:55] <dmsuperman_> ikonia: what's screen?
[15:55] <castabranca> Enter text here...
[15:55] <slowlearner> sudo apt-get install screen
[15:56] <Pici> !screen | dmsuperman_
[15:56] <ubotu> dmsuperman_: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[15:56] <ikonia> slowlearner "what's screen" does not warrent an answer of apt-get install screen
[15:57] <tim167> trying to install from desktop CD, hangs at ubuntu logo + progression bar, after selecting start or install...help!
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> tim167, At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[15:58] <seanieb64> tim167
[15:58] <tim167> tried to install with alternate CD but then get black screen on boot into OS, no terminal, no prompt
[15:58] <Sturmeh> tim167 press ALT+F1 and read errors
[15:58] <Sturmeh> :D
[15:58] <Sturmeh> ah
[15:58] <Sturmeh> (CTRL+ALT+F1)
[15:58] <Sturmeh> sorry
[15:59] <slowlearner> alt+f1 will do (i think)
[15:59] <tim167> ok thanks...trying with quiet and splash removed...
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> tim167, at least withthat you can see where it hangs or what the error is
[16:00] <tim167> Jack_Sparrow: it hangs at ACPI PCI Interrupt
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> tim167, add those other options
[16:00] <tim167>  Jack_Sparrow: ok...
[16:00] <MrFawkes> Uh, hi there. I'm trying to set up epiphany as the default browser on xubuntu. I did it in galternatives and xfce preferred applications, but when I click on links in, say, synaptic, I still get firefox. Any ideas?
[16:00] <balle_> i have a fear of using the restricted drivers of my grafix card nvidia go 6600 couse last time i installed it it messed up m system big time, so is there an way i can make a backup of my driver settings and load them during reboot in GRUB?
[16:01] <simmerz> I've got two screens and running compiz-fusion. one screen is bigger than the other and so I've had to specify a virtual desktop size. on the smaller screen, when i click below the desktop (by mistake, normally) X resets itself. any ideas?
[16:01] <Sturmeh> balle_ do you know how to set your graphics driver as vesa in the case of error?
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> balle_, make a copy of your xorg.conf ....
[16:01] <Sturmeh> aight there we go
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> balle_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg (to just set res) If you get locked out Select vesa as your video card and 1024 max res.  Use tab or enter to accept all other defaults
[16:02] <diego_> hola
[16:02] <Sturmeh> MrFawkes try prefrences default applications
[16:02] <Sturmeh> wtf botnet?
[16:02] <sint> amenado: http://rafb.net/p/V9TL2n34.html
[16:02] <MrFawkes> Sturmeh: er, preferences where?
[16:03] <Pici> !traffic
[16:03] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[16:03] <sint> amenado: this is the output
[16:03] <Sturmeh> not sure.
[16:03] <slowlearner> $env
[16:03] <FloodBot3> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[16:03] <mike-ekim> is there a way to launch an application and tell it which DBus configuration file to use?
[16:03] <MrFawkes> I probably did it then. Just different name.
[16:03] <Sturmeh> Jack_Sparrow can you tell MrFawkes where you can change the default internet browser?
[16:04] <Sturmeh> I'm not currently on ubuntu.
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> system...pref...preferd applications
[16:04] <Sturmeh> that's the one MrFawkes
[16:04] <Sturmeh> MrFawkes got it? System > Prefrences > Prefered Applications
[16:05] <sint> amenado: this looks like a working connection to me, but i cant ping
[16:05] <Sturmeh> goddamn botnets
[16:05] <balle_> i have a fear of using the restricted drivers of my grafix card nvidia go 6600 couse last time i installed it it messed up m system big time, so is there an way i can make a backup of my driver settings and load them during reboot in GRUB?
[16:05] <Sturmeh> no balle_ the drivers are loaded by X
[16:05] <Mez> !traffic
[16:05] <MrFawkes> I have no pref under system. I have preferred aplications in settings, and it's epiphany there.
[16:05] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[16:05] <MrFawkes> Still didn't help.
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> balle_, Write down the command I gave earlier, make a copy of your xorg and go for it..
[16:05] <Sturmeh> Sorry MrFawkes can't help myself.
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> balle_, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/Desktop/Jacks-Notes/xorg.conf.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> balle_, with your won path of course
[16:06] <Sturmeh> jacks-notes lol
[16:06] <Sturmeh> ofcausse we all have that foldr on our desktop
[16:06] <Sturmeh> :D
[16:08] <amenado> sint unassociated  ESSID:"AP"  <-- not associated yet
[16:08] <Mez> !traffic
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[16:08] <Mez> !feedthetroll
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[16:09] <sint> amenado: how to associated it?
[16:09] <yok> hello botnet
[16:09] <Sturmeh> you know him yok?
[16:09] <Sturmeh> :D
[16:09] <yok> :D
[16:10] <amenado> sint try commands like ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
[16:10] <yok> Sturmeh  Botnet  hi
[16:10] <Sturmeh> shh u
[16:10] <ghostnob>  one quick question: I'm seting up WIndows server 2003 in addition to my ubuntu server at home, should they both have the same domain names but different hostname? (2) Will they not confilct? Ubuntu is going to be used for my web development database server and other backups and windows is going to be used for my main back ups and antivirus scan for each file I back up on it.
[16:11] <yok> Sturmeh Botnel and i am to work  you to want ?
[16:11] <amenado> ghostnob-> they wont be up at same time?
[16:11] <dmsuperman_> ghostnob: it's really up to you
[16:11] <Sturmeh> yok off-topic
[16:11] <yok> Sturmeh    ssh  yes
[16:12] <Sturmeh> i said shh not ssh...
[16:12] <daire> !graphics
[16:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:12] <yok> yes   datacentir
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !res
[16:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type ┬½ sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart ┬╗ in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[16:12] <yok> Sturmeh   yes   datacentir
[16:12] <dmsuperman_> !ot | yok
[16:12] <ubotu> yok: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:12] <Mez> Sturmeh, yok, please take your offtopic conversation elsewhere
[16:12] <yok> Sturmeh   you msn ?
[16:13] <Sturmeh> nothing to talk about...
[16:13] <daire> jack_Sparrow: how did you know it was my res? :)
[16:13] <Jack_Sparrow> daire, lucky guess
[16:13] <daire> ty :D
[16:13] <yok> Sturmeh  msn admin@askkenti.com
[16:13] <daire> i bet my cool new linux desktop will look great with the proper res
[16:13] <Randocal> By chance does anyone know if installing and configuring fuppes to communicate with an xbox 360 is a halfway smooth process?
[16:13] <ghostnob>  one quick question: I'm seting up WIndows server 2003 in addition to my ubuntu server at home, should they both have the same domain names but different hostname? (2) Will they not confilct? Ubuntu is going to be used for my web development database server and other backups and windows is going to be used for my main back ups and antivirus scan for each file I back up on it.
[16:14] <dmsuperman_> ghostnob your answer has been answered above
[16:14] <Jack_Sparrow> ghostnob, try #Ubuntu-server
[16:14] <yok> Sturmeh   you msn ?
[16:14] <ghostnob> ok... sorry I was doing something and not fully paying attention to the lobby
[16:14] <Mez> !repear | yok
[16:14] <Sturmeh> no yok, leave me alone
[16:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repear - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:15] <Pici> yok: Stop.
[16:15] <yok> Sturmeh i am ssh  present ?
[16:16] <zackymc_k> i have a problem with window border problems
[16:16] <Sturmeh> go zackymc_k
[16:16] <Odd-rationale> zackymc_k: using compiz?
[16:16] <zackymc_k> well i have no window borders
[16:16] <zackymc_k> yes i am
[16:16] <gullstad> Hello. I was wondering if there was a way to limit a users discspace. (Got disconected so didnt see the last anserw is there was any)
[16:16] <Sturmeh> lawl compiz ftw
[16:16] <Odd-rationale> zackymc_k: did you install emerad?
[16:16] <sint> amenado: it keeps to be unassociated for whatever reason
[16:16] <Odd-rationale> *emerald
[16:16] <zackymc_k> no
[16:17] <zackymc_k> i havent
[16:17] <Sturmeh> well install emerald
[16:17] <Sturmeh> it's nice
[16:17] <zackymc_k> how
[16:17] <Odd-rationale> zackymc_k: sudo apt-get install emerald
[16:17] <unop> gullstad, sure, you can use  disk quotas
[16:18] <lesshaste> how can I let people ssh into my computer? I see  /usr/bin/ssh-agent x-session-manager when I do ps auwx|grep ssh
[16:18] <gullstad> unop: Mind asking he how, or send me in the direction of an "How to"? :P
[16:18] <sint> lesshaste: install ssh-server and start it with /etc/init.d/ssh
[16:19] <slowlearner> lesshaste sure if they have ssh client
[16:19] <daire> woah the cube and wobble desktop effects are sick!
[16:19] <lesshaste> sint: oh ok.. what is the process I saw?
[16:19] <Sturmeh> yea they are daire
[16:19] <unop> gullstad, !google "disk quotas" on linux.  www.debianadmin.com/implement-and-manage-disk-quotas-in-linux.html
[16:19] <balle_> Well... just decided to install drivers without thinking twice, it didnt mess up my sys. but it made my resolution messed up and no matter what settings i try to pick it just messes up the screen with a black gridded one with nothing on... an help is greatly appreciated
[16:19] <Mez> yok, what are you on about ?
[16:19] <Sturmeh> zackymc_k sudo apt-get emerald
[16:19] <Sturmeh> no?
[16:19] <Mez> yok, I dont understand what you're trying to say ?
[16:20] <Odd-rationale> Sturmeh: + install
[16:20] <Sturmeh> check synaptic
[16:20] <Sturmeh> yea keep forgetting
[16:20] <sint> lesshaste: not sure, but i had the same problem when i was trying this once too. ssh is just a client in ubuntu and you have to install the server yourself
[16:20] <lesshaste> sint: openssh-server?
[16:20] <Sturmeh> sudo apt-get install emerald
[16:20] <lesshaste> sint: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start ?
[16:20] <sint> ya
[16:20]  * N3bunel saluta
[16:21] <Mez> yok, can I help you at all ?
[16:21] <zackymc_k> i still have no borders
[16:21] <Odd-rationale> zackymc_k: then do alt+f2 and type
[16:21] <Sturmeh> did you install it?
[16:21] <Odd-rationale> zackymc_k: emerald --replace
[16:21] <balle_> Well... just decided to install drivers without thinking twice, it didnt mess up my sys. but it made my resolution messed up and no matter what settings i try to pick it just messes up the screen with a black gridded one with nothing on... an help is greatly appreciated
[16:21] <daire> i entered in the following lines to terminal and i'm supposed to get a config dialogue asking if i want to autodetect the hardware but instead it's asking me to pick one
[16:21] <Sturmeh> yea
[16:21] <daire> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf |sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:22] <daire>  Drivers are typically named for the video card or chipset manufacturer, or for a specific model or family of           Ōöé
[16:22] <daire>  Ōöé chipsets.                                                                                                              Ōöé
[16:22] <daire>  Ōöé                                                                                                                        Ōöé
[16:22] <daire>  Ōöé X server driver:
[16:22] <FloodBot2> daire: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:22] <daire> sorry
[16:22] <Sturmeh> gotta love people saying sorry to a bot
[16:22] <Sturmeh> :D
[16:23] <skenmy> Hey all - i'm practically tearing my hair out trying to get sound to work in Gutsy, but no such luck so far. It's the only sound card that Ubuntu is detecting as usable, but no sound is coming out of the speakers. There are no errors being thrown at me by amaroK, aplay, or anything similar. Anyone have *any* ideas? I'm using a Creative Audigy ZS 2.
[16:23] <Odd-rationale> !sorry | daire
[16:23] <ubotu> daire: It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[16:23] <daire> lol
[16:23] <daire> <3
[16:24] <balle_> is there any way to find out manufactura and model of my labtop screen in ubuntu?
[16:25] <newTruth_UK> DUMB question: I have lost my menu in vim (gvim) how do I get it to re-appear ?
[16:25] <balle_> Well... just decided to install drivers without thinking twice, it didnt mess up my sys. but it made my resolution messed up and no matter what settings i try to pick it just messes up the screen with a black gridded one with nothing on... an help is greatly appreciated
[16:25] <SynapseAttack> Anyone have a good site to read up on getting Ubuntu Server to use Trusted Platform Module (TPM)?
[16:26] <ikonia> balle_ drivers for what
[16:26] <balle_> ikonia: my gfx card
[16:26] <ikonia> balle_: which drivers ?
[16:27] <balle_> ikonia: the restricted drivers for the nvidia 6600go for my labtop
[16:28] <sint> amenado: i'm using an old wificard now. sux! but it works with madwifi out of the box and i have to go to work now. thanks for you help! i will try it later again
[16:28] <ikonia> balle_: and what have you done to fix this issue
[16:29] <newTruth_UK> DUMB question: I have lost my menu bar in vim (gvim) how do I get it to re-appear ?
[16:29] <balle_> ikonia: i have tried testing every possible resolution and screen setting, nothing happens but an error test screen of black with white grid in it
[16:30] <yok> hi is there any one to work with me by botnet
[16:30] <ikonia> balle_: ok, what have you done so far to fix this
[16:30] <yok> hi is there any one to work with me by botnet
[16:30] <yok> hi is there any one to work with me by botnet
[16:30] <FloodBot2> yok: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:30] <balle_> ikonia: well.. nothing because i don't really know what to do...
[16:30] <ikonia> !nvidia > balle
[16:30] <ikonia> balle_: check the link from ubotu
[16:31] <balle_> !nvidia
[16:31] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:32] <daire> the unbuntu res guide says that when i enter in the commands - sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf |sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - to terminal i'm supposed to get a box asking if i want it to autodetect my video hardware but instead i get it asking me to select the x server driver. there is no auto detect option
[16:33] <gfetco> Hi does anyone know where to get a Virtual Boot program?
[16:34] <tgillespi1> hi all, is gccxml working for anyone?
[16:34] <cheesypieces> hi guys, does anyone have any idea why i can now only see one workspace? i've just installed avm
[16:34] <balle_> ikonia: should i reboot?
[16:35] <ikonia> balle_: why ?
[16:35] <ikonia> balle_: where did that document ubotu sent through say reboot
[16:36] <balle_> ikonia: it says i need to restart the x server...
[16:36] <ikonia> balle_: ctrl+alt+del will do that
[16:36] <balle_> ikonia: it didnt.. but it did tell me to restart xserver through logging out or something
[16:36] <|Debian|> how would i go about checking how much space i have left through terminal ?
[16:36] <ikonia> balle_: "or something" try READING the info
[16:36] <ikonia> |Debian|: are you using debian or ubuntu ?
[16:37] <unop_> |Debian|, df
[16:37] <gfetco> Where to geet a virtual boot?
[16:37] <balle_> ikonia: sry To start using the driver you will need to logout and select Restart X Server from the menu, or press Alt+E
[16:37] <|Debian|> ubunu ... don't see why it makes a differencwe
[16:37] <balle_> ikonia: alt+E does nothing
[16:37] <ikonia> balle_: ctrl+alt+del
[16:38] <Pici> ikonia: backspace ;)
[16:38] <gfetco> Does anyone know where to get a virtual booter? I have no Diskett on my computer :(
[16:38] <balle_> ikonia: yea, already tried that i'm afraid, should i log out also or just press ctrl+alt+del and then cancel?
[16:38] <gfetco> Floppy*
[16:38] <ikonia> balle_: it will kill your session so it doesn't matter
[16:39] <cheesypieces> hi guys, i can't get awm to work - nothing happens when i click on the awm icon under applications - any ideas?
[16:40] <ikonia> cheesypieces: try launching it from the command line for better output
[16:40] <noodlesgc> cheesypieces compiz must be running
[16:40] <ikonia> cheesypieces: check what the icon is linked to in terms of launching
[16:40] <gfetco> Ikonia, if something buggs how can I terminate it? I always have to pull out the cable so the power goes off if a prgram buggs... :(
[16:40] <cheesypieces> noodlesgc: compiz is running, does that stop it?
[16:40] <tifine> how to create a zip file on command
[16:40] <amee2k> why do i keep getting unauthenticated updates? is this normal?
[16:40] <ikonia> gfetco: can you give me an example
[16:41] <balle_> ikonia: it just comes up with the log off/hibernate etc. menu that you get from pressing the green dude in the top right corner..
[16:41] <ikonia> tifine: man zip
[16:41] <gfetco> world of warcraft
[16:41] <noodlesgc> cheesypieces no, awn requires compiz to be running
[16:41] <ikonia> balle_: ok, restart then
[16:41] <ikonia> gfetco: killing wine should kill that
[16:41] <gfetco> gets bugged and i cant do anything
[16:41] <gfetco> how?
[16:41] <noodlesgc> amee2k you mean that ubuntu automatically installed updates?
[16:41] <larmeh> tifine: do you explicitly need a zip file or is tar.gz ok too?
[16:41] <ikonia> gfetco: can you still move the mouse / open terminals etc
[16:41] <gfetco> i cant move the mouse
[16:41] <cheesypieces> noodlesgc: is there a way to check if its running or not?
[16:41] <ikonia> gfetco: ahhh so your machine dies, restart is the only way then
[16:41] <gfetco> i cant even open terminal
[16:42] <tifine> larmeh, no zip file only
[16:42] <gfetco> it doesnt die
[16:42] <ikonia> tifine: man zip
[16:42] <noodlesgc> cheesypieces system->preferences->Appearence->Visual effects
[16:42] <ikonia> gfetco: ok "hangs"
[16:42] <gfetco> i just cant open programs and everything goes slow
[16:42] <|Debian|> anyone know of a nice lightwieght irc client ?
[16:42] <ikonia> |Debian|: irssi, bitchx ?
[16:42] <amee2k> noodlesgc i mean when that little "updates available" icon in the tray area appears and i click it and then install the updates, i get a warning like "unable to authenticate packages. do you want to install"
[16:42] <tifine> ikonia, that is a nice answer :P
[16:42] <ikonia> gfetco: if your machine hangs you'll have to restart
[16:42] <ikonia> tifine: no problem
[16:42] <gfetco> its to laggy to even use force quit
[16:42] <gregory> |Debian|: irssi
[16:43] <amee2k> unfortunately i just hit "install anyway" so i can't make a screenshot until the next update
[16:43] <ikonia> gfetco: I'll say it again "you'll have to restart"
[16:43] <gfetco> but but but !
[16:43] <Andrewm> I'm having trouble getting on the internet, My local ISP is COX using a cable modem.. help
[16:43] <ikonia> gfetco: but what ?
[16:43] <ikonia> Andrewm: you are on the internet now ?
[16:43] <gfetco> Cant I make a batch that closes Wine
[16:43] <tifine> ikonia, yes u assholee
[16:43] <gfetco> and then make a hotkey to it?
[16:43] <noodlesgc> !language
[16:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:43] <Shaffox> Does anyone know a linux software program to put music files on your apple ipod ?
[16:43] <ikonia> tifine: thats totally uncalled for
[16:44] <Andrewm> ikonia, I'm at work now
[16:44] <ikonia> tifine: I gave you a very good response
[16:44] <noodlesgc> Shaffox gtkpod
[16:44] <ikonia> Andrewm: ahhh
[16:44] <Seamus> would anyone care to lend me a hand with iptables port forwarding in ubuntu 6.06?
[16:44] <ikonia> gfetco: how can you use a hot key if your machine is hung ?
[16:44] <gregory> Shaffox: someone with an ipod mentioned the program "banshee" in this channel
[16:44] <gfetco> Because I can move my mouse a little bit
[16:44] <gfetco> It justs laggs
[16:44] <gfetco> And if I wait 5-8 minutes it stoppes lagging
[16:44] <ikonia> gfetco: do something that gets the pid for wow / wine the kill -9 it in a script
[16:45] <noodlesgc> amee2k it means that you are using community maintained software, its pretty normal
[16:45] <ikonia> gfetco: sounds like your machine is under resourced
[16:45] <Seamus> in the prerouting table I have this: DNAT       tcp  --  anywhere             192.168.1.33        tcp dpt:3389 to:192.168.0.15:3389
[16:45] <gfetco> kk
[16:45] <ikonia> Seamus: /join #netfilter or #iptables
[16:45] <Andrewm> Perhaps it's an LMHOSTS thing?
[16:45] <ikonia> Andrewm: unix boxes don't use lmhosts
[16:45] <gfetco> Does anyone know how to get the PID for wine?
[16:45] <ikonia> gfetco: ps -ef | Grep wine
[16:45] <ikonia> grep wine
[16:46] <amee2k> noodlesgc: erm, ssh is community maintained?
[16:46] <Andrewm> ikonia: NetBios over TCP/IP ?
[16:46] <amee2k> or rsync?
[16:46] <ikonia> Andrewm: ????? ?what, is this an ubuntu box your trying to connect to the internet ?
[16:46] <ikonia> amee2k: you should not get unauthenticated updates
[16:46] <Andrewm> ikonia, I have the directions for winxp.
[16:46] <ikonia> amee2k: there is a problem
[16:46] <noodlesgc> amee2k ok something is out of whack
[16:46] <ikonia> Andrewm: yes, but your not using winxp ?
[16:46] <Andrewm> ikonia: no
[16:46] <debian_> sweet
[16:46] <ikonia> Andrewm: ok, so throw the winxp instructions in the bin
[16:46] <debian_> bitch x in the terminal
[16:46] <debian_> lol
[16:47] <amee2k> okay. how can i find out what i did wrong?
[16:47] <ikonia> amee2k: you may have done nothing, the serve may have had a problem
[16:47] <balle_> ubuntu is unable to detect my gfx card and my screen.. any way to make it detect?
[16:47] <Andrewm> ikonia: do you mean paste bin? I
[16:47] <ikonia> balle_: what are you doing to make it detect
[16:47] <amee2k> ikonia: then i shouldn't be the only one having this problem, right?
[16:47] <ikonia> Andrewm: no - I mean the instructions for windows XP are of no use to you on an ubuntu box
[16:47] <ikonia> amee2k: no, and from time to time I've seen it
[16:48] <amee2k> hm...
[16:48] <balle_> ikonia: i have tried to use the detect screen options and enabling the drivers, not helping..
[16:48] <|Debian|> ok
[16:48] <ikonia> balle_: do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and repond to the questions
[16:48] <|Debian|> now i need a lightwight browser
[16:48] <|Debian|> any ideas ?
[16:48] <asdrubal> How do I assign a UUID to a partition/filesystem?
[16:48] <amee2k> does it disappear on its own, or is there anything i can do? like updating some public key or something
[16:49] <Andrewm> iknoia: yes, but the data of various network settings are all there
[16:49] <asdrubal> I know how to generate a uuid
[16:49] <asdrubal> but so what
[16:49] <gfetco> Ikonia, what do you mean by ps -ef | Grep wine?
[16:49] <balle_> ikonia: have done that before, did not enable the drivers sadly, is there no other options?
[16:49] <gfetco> then I mean the Grep wine part
[16:49] <ikonia> gfetco the shell command of "ps -ef | grep wine" will give you the pid
[16:49] <amee2k> |Debian|: epiphany is nice ... or links2 or CLI
[16:49] <ikonia> balle_: is the nvidia module loaded
[16:49] <ikonia> asdrubal: you don't assign one
[16:49] <ikonia> asdrubal: they are system assigned
[16:49] <gfetco> kk
[16:49] <Howbag> Hello (:
[16:49] <asdrubal> ikonia wrong
[16:49] <ikonia> asdrubal: oh, then how do you assign one
[16:49] <gfetco> is grep the variable?
[16:50] <asdrubal> ikonia ok fine, so how do I determine what the UUID is?
[16:50] <ikonia> gfetco: no, a command
[16:50] <ikonia> asdrubal: blkid
[16:50] <gfetco> where is the variable?
[16:50] <asdrubal> ikonia k thanks
[16:50] <Pici> gfetco: what variable?
[16:50] <ikonia> gfetco: there isn't one
[16:50] <balle_> ikonia: in the screens and graphics under graphic cards it says nvidia 6 series, so i guess so
[16:50] <gfetco> Shouldnt i put the pid in a variable then kill var
[16:50] <crazytalk> i am going to reinstall ubuntu and someone recommended using a 20gb /, 2 gb swap and the rest in home
[16:50] <ikonia> balle_: I'm going to stop helping you now as you don't listen to a THING I'm saying, I ask questions and you respond with random answers.
[16:50] <Pici> gfetco: But you dont know what the pid is yet.
[16:51] <crazytalk> he said this is good for reinstalls, can someone tell me how to do this?
[16:51] <gfetco> but the pid is diffrent frome time to time?
[16:51] <ikonia> gfetco: you get the pid from the command I gav eyou
[16:51] <ikonia> gfetco: as I've told you 3 times now
[16:51] <Pici> gfetco: Yes. its the process id.
[16:51] <gfetco> i can write ps -u georgij then i can find the pid from there
[16:51] <Morydd> is there a place I can download individual files from ubuntu .deb packages?
[16:51] <gfetco> easier
[16:51] <ikonia> gfetco: NO
[16:51] <ikonia> gfetco: ps -ef | grep wine
[16:52] <balle_> ikonia: allright man...
[16:52] <ikonia> gfetco: or ps -ef | grep -v grep | grep wine
[16:52] <Andrewm> ikonia: enable "Automatic metric" ?
[16:52] <balle_> anybody knows what the nvidia module is and how to enable it?
[16:52] <ikonia> gfetco: I'm giving you the EXACT commands so how can you tell me it's "easier" your way when you don't know what your doing
[16:52] <gregory> Morydd: no
[16:52] <ikonia> Andrewm: please stop saying random things to me
[16:52] <gfetco> But I found the pid to the wine with my way of doing it
[16:52] <gfetco> so what did i do wrong?
[16:52] <gfetco> lol
[16:52] <ikonia> gfetco: do what you want
[16:52] <gregory> Morydd: still you can apt-get the file without installation and then look whats inside
[16:53] <ikonia> gfetco: but if your doing that, stop asking how
[16:53] <Morydd> gregory: it's apt that's broken :)
[16:53] <gfetco> how?
[16:53] <gfetco> hahaha
[16:53] <ikonia> gfetco: best way to get ignored
[16:53] <Andrewm> ikonia: thanks for the help
[16:53] <Morydd> the files in /etc/lib/apt/methods/ are missing.
[16:53] <gfetco> :P
[16:53] <hischild> gfetco, if you request help from any of us, please follow the advice given. If you refuse to do what we tell you, we cannot and eventually will not help you out.
[16:53] <hischild> !lol | gfetco
[16:53] <ubotu> gfetco: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[16:54] <gregory> Morydd: so the installation layer is broken and you cant reinstall apt?
[16:54] <balle_> anybody knows what the nvidia module is and how to enable it? and what it does
[16:54] <gfetco> Omg, it says I cannot use Omg or LOL!! omfg loool!
[16:54] <ikonia> balle_: read the link ubotu sent you
[16:55] <Morydd> gregory: seems that way.
[16:55] <gfetco> I thought Linux was about being free...
[16:55] <gregory> Morydd: interesting, maybe you still have the files in the trashbin?
[16:55] <jelle> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[16:56] <ikonia> gfetco: it is - but that has no relevance to your attitude
[16:56] <|Debian|> anyone know of any lightwieght browsers ?
[16:56] <jelle> or check the restricted drivers for nvidia driver support
[16:56] <ay^> gfetco: oh yeah
[16:56] <gregory> gfetco: and in democrary not everybody is nudist.. ;-)
[16:56] <ay^> free NOT te read omg and lool every 3 seconds
[16:56] <jelle> lightbrowser -> FF3 or opera
[16:56] <ay^> *to
[16:56] <markxy> ciaoo
[16:56] <|Debian|> jelle ... no a lightwieght browser ... not FF
[16:56] <gfetco> Freedom equals you can do whatever you want :)
[16:56] <nood> ciao
[16:56] <ikonia> !offtopic > gfetco
[16:57] <gregory> gfetco: as long you dont piss off other people
[16:57] <ikonia> |Debian|: they all have an overhead
[16:57] <balle_> ikonia: did not recive a link in this session of IRC, but i catch your drift
[16:57] <balle_> !nvidia
[16:57] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:57] <jelle> debian -> gnome's defualt browser
[16:57] <ikonia> |Debian|: text based tools like lynx may hhelp
[16:57] <balle__> !nvidia
[16:57] <Mez> !ohmy | gregory
[16:57] <ubotu> gregory: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:57] <NoZzLe> So here's the deal, I do web development out of my home and I've been running various version of MSDOS and Windows for many years now.  I've been slowly teaching myself how to run linux as a desktop for over a year now using vms and I've switched over to ubuntu completely now.  Been running it exclusively for a year and I'm pleased.
[16:57] <swuboo> Light browsers?  Lynx, if you're really serious about the lightness thing.
[16:57] <gregory> Mez: yes
[16:57] <ikonia> balle__: if you did not recive the link - why did you say 3 times you'd read the document I sent you
[16:57] <ay^> elinks is what I use on a regular basis
[16:57] <|Debian|> ikonia: not looking for a text based ... just something simple
[16:57] <jelle> www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/
[16:58] <jelle> browser for you www.gnome.org/projects/epiphany/
[16:58] <gfetco> But I dont understand why they are making such a big deal for me saying something like "Lol, Omg" espacially when I didnt say it until they told me not to say it...
[16:58] <balle__> ikonia: i rebooted my computer.. irc session ends, well.. least on my pc
[16:58] <balle__> !nvidia
[16:58] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:58] <jelle> dillo is pretty fast en light debian
[16:58] <rabia> a
[16:58] <ikonia> gfetco: this is totally offtopic - you said it as soon as you where told not to say it. If this discussion is not for this channel, this channel is for support queries only
[16:59] <X-plo> hi
[16:59] <gfetco> HELP: Which browser is the best? The one Ubuntu is using or Konqueror?
[16:59] <Mez> !ot | gfetco
[16:59] <ubotu> gfetco: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:59] <PriceChild> !best | gfetco
[16:59] <ubotu> gfetco: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[16:59] <ikonia> gfetco: thats personal opinion
[16:59] <Ollie> Hey, if I install ubuntu onto a CD, how do I boot ubuntu off the CD without harming my Windows installation?
[16:59] <NoZzLe> I even have Photoshop, thumbsplus, and forte agent running under crossover.  After trying various flavors of *nix I run ubuntu and imo ubuntu is just about ready for primetime.  That's the end of my rant.
[16:59] <Mez> thats the one I was looking for PriceChild :)
[16:59] <ikonia> Ollie: you can't really install onto a cd
[17:00] <X-plo> I'm triying to install a package but I have got broken pipe this is my output if someone can check it out http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7011/
[17:00] <re1> hi
[17:00] <u-foka> # Appears as TIKI
[17:00] <gfetco> Why cant people answer simple questions? XD IS there a chat channel please?
[17:00] <swuboo> Ollie:  ikonia's right, that doesn't actually work quite like that, but you *can* make a LiveCD.  If you boot off the LiveCD, it won't do anything to your Windows install unless you ask it to.
[17:00] <Ollie> But I download the ISO and burn to CD, what is that actually doing?
[17:00] <hischild> gfetco, #ubuntu-offtopic is what you're talking about.
[17:01] <ikonia> Ollie ahh ok, thats made a live cd and install source
[17:01] <Ollie> Awesome, cheers swuboo and ikonia
[17:01] <jelle> i cant install x-chat systray  anyone nows this problem?
[17:01] <ikonia> Ollie: burn the ISO onto the cDrom then boot from it
[17:01] <gfetco> Thank
[17:01] <gfetco> you
[17:01] <murlidhar> !offtopic
[17:01] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:01] <gfetco> !offtopic
[17:01] <NoZzLe> gfetco:  i prefer firefox (or swiftfox)...but for the best support and answers I go to ubuntu forums on the web.
[17:01] <Ollie> To boot from the CD, do I just pop it in and it will come up with the option?
[17:01] <swuboo> Ollie:  Assuming the CD is above the hard drive in your BIOS boot order, yes.
[17:01] <ikonia> Ollie: if your bios is set to boot from cd, sure
[17:02] <Mez> !botabuse | gfetco
[17:02] <ubotu> gfetco: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:02] <Ollie> Cheers, I am downloading it now, will pop back here in about an hour after I have downloaded and tried to boot :P
[17:02] <swuboo> Ollie:  If the optical drive is the first boot device, the CD will boot into Ubuntu, storing what it needs in RAM.  It won't write to your hard drive unless you ask it to, there's an install icon for that purpose.
[17:02] <gfetco> (18.01.24) murlidhar: !offtopic
[17:02] <gfetco> But but he did it
[17:03] <Mez> gfetco, yes, so you've no need to repeat surely ?
[17:03] <Ollie> swuboo: What will happen if I install a program whilest running Ubuntu?
[17:03] <gfetco> But everyone is blaming me
[17:03] <gfetco> bye
[17:03] <gfetco> Freedom!
[17:03] <murlidhar> gfetco, just wanted to know the channel name that's why i typed that
[17:03] <gfetco> Freedom!
[17:03] <ikonia> gfetco: ok - go already
[17:03] <swuboo> Ollie:  Depending, as I recall, it downloads the package off the internet and stores it in memory.  Obviously, you'll find yourself limited by your available RAM.
[17:04] <Mez> !repeat | gfetco
[17:04] <ubotu> gfetco: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:04] <swuboo> Ollie:  Assuming the package isn't on the CD already, of course.  If it is on the CD, it just loads it into RAM as necessary.
[17:04] <balle_> !nvidia
[17:04] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:04] <Ollie> swuboo: Say I downloaded OpenOffice (just an example, you probably can't) and I install it, will it put it on HDD?
[17:05] <swuboo> Ollie:  No, not unless you install Ubuntu onto your hard drive first.
[17:05] <daire> for reinstalls i want to create sep partitions. 20 gig /, 2 gig swap and the rest in home. should the 20 gig / be primary or logical, is it at the beginning or end, and what should it be used as? eg ext3
[17:05] <Ollie> swuboo: Where will it install it, onto RAM?
[17:05] <daire> i'm in the live cd atm
[17:05] <swuboo> Ollie:  I think the CD already has OpenOffice on it, but I could be wrong.  If it does, the CD will just load it into RAM.
[17:05] <Ollie> swuboo: Don't understand, but I'm sure I will later
[17:06] <swuboo> Ollie:  If it helps by way of example, a friend of mine set up his mother with a computer with a LiveCD and no HDD at all.
[17:06] <Ollie> swuboo:Ooooo, insteresting, cheers mate
[17:06] <swuboo> Ollie:  Cheers.  You'll see how it works.
[17:07] <Ollie> swuboo: Cya after a clean (hopefully) install and boot!
[17:07] <Ollie> Bye guys!
[17:08] <balle_> there really isnt much help for ubuntu 7.10 in the !nividia link..
[17:08] <ikonia> balle_ there is tons
[17:09] <daire> !partitions
[17:09] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[17:09] <balle_> ikonia: not really in the binary howtwo.. (i would post dir link but it's very long)
[17:09] <X-plo>  I'm triying to install a package but I have got broken pipe this is my output if someone can check it out http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7011/
[17:09] <ikonia> balle_: yes, its' exactly the same in 7.04 as 7.10
[17:09] <ikonia> balle_: so the guide is very good
[17:09] <balle_> ikonia: thx!
[17:11] <puppetmaster> hey everyone.. how to make ubuntu mount a hdd I just connected while pc is working??
[17:11] <asdrubal> ikonia how come my hpfsplus partition doesn't show up in blkid
[17:11] <daire> for reinstalls i want to create sep partitions. 20 gig /, 2 gig swap and the rest in home. should the 20 gig /, 2 gig swap and home be primary or logical, at the beginning or end, and apart from swap what should the other 2 parts be used as? eg ext3
[17:11] <asdrubal> ikonia err hfsplus
[17:12] <puppetmaster> in windows xp I just connect the hardware and make scan for plug and play
[17:12] <ikonia> asdrubal: don't you need the kernel module inserted to see the pardtition
[17:12] <puppetmaster> so is there anything like that in ubuntu
[17:13] <balle_> ikonia: i see that my card is supported, and i have set the drivers to be the ones used, and enabled the restricted drivers on my gfx card, but it still wont work, you said something about a nvidia module?
[17:13] <ikonia> balle_: yes you need to see if it's running
[17:13] <redr> hi
[17:13] <ikonia> balle_: or see if it's loaded to be more exact
[17:13] <redr> can someone help me?
[17:14] <ikonia> redr: hi
[17:14] <Bailie> where's the trash configuration?
[17:14] <balle_> ikonia:  and how do i do that?
[17:14] <sls_> does anyone know what a *.udeb is?
[17:14] <redr> i login on my ubuntu machine remotely using ssh
[17:14] <balle_> ikonia: lscip?
[17:14] <ikonia> what ?
[17:14] <ikonia> lsmod
[17:14] <puppetmaster> ?
[17:14] <balle_> ikonia: lsmod for me?
[17:14] <ikonia> balle_: yes
[17:14] <redr> i want to keep running some commands even after loggin off
[17:14] <ikonia> redr: ok, yes
[17:15] <sls_> does anyone know what a *.udeb is? -- anyone?
[17:15] <asdrubal> ikonia yeah I have hfsplus kernel module
[17:15] <ikonia> redr: nohup and & or screen is your friend
[17:15] <gregory> Bailie: what exactly do you want to change?
[17:15] <ikonia> asdrubal: thats odd and blkid doesn't show anything ?
[17:15] <asdrubal> ikonia nope.
[17:15] <asdrubal> ikonia also weird is I can't mount it rw
[17:15] <redr> i want to download something big files
[17:15] <Bailie> gregory: I want to disable trash
[17:15] <asdrubal> ikonia I recently install hackintosh on it
[17:15] <balle_> ikonia: i got something nvidia  but it says it's used by 0
[17:15] <redr> so i want to use wget or something
[17:15] <ikonia> asdrubal: I didn't think HFS was write supported (I don't knw)
[17:15] <John_Priest> Does anyone know of a program that could allow me to easily set up an keyboard macro to press a single key at a timed interval
[17:16] <ikonia> redr: nohup and & or screen is still your friend
[17:16] <asdrubal> I like ubuntu alot better than OSX
[17:16] <sls_> does anyone know what a *.udeb is? -- anyone? really?
[17:16] <redr> wont it disconnet if i logout?
[17:16] <hischild> sls_, checked www.filext.com ?
[17:17] <gregory> Bailie: open nautilus: edit -> preferences: behaviour: Trash
[17:17] <daire> or reinstalls i want to create sep partitions. 20 gig /, 2 gig swap and the rest in home. should the 20 gig / be primary or logical, is it at the beginning or end, and what should it be used as? eg fat32
[17:17] <daire> *for
[17:17] <Bailie> gregory: Thank You
[17:17] <Pici> sls_: try file yourfile.udeb
[17:17] <hischild> daire, you should create them ext3 and not use fat32. If you have 4 or less partitions, create them all primary. Start them all at the beginning. Any more questions?
[17:18] <daire> ty and stanby while i try please
[17:18] <ikonia> redr: ughhhhh I've just told you nohup and backgrounding the job with & or using the screen application will resolve that
[17:18] <redr> thanks ikonia
[17:18] <|Debian|> anyone know why gaim just randomly shuts it's self off ... every now and then ?
[17:18] <Slart> John_Priest: a simple bash script would perhaps work.. if you only knew how to "create" a keypress using the terminal..
[17:18] <ikonia> |Debian|: never seen it do that
[17:18] <Slart> |Debian|: gaim? or pidgin?
[17:18] <|Debian|> gaim
[17:19] <ikonia> |Debian|: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[17:19] <|Debian|> 6.10
[17:19] <sls_> !udeb
[17:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udeb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:19] <aimchanger> upgrade son
[17:19] <|Debian|> nope
[17:19] <sls_> udebs are microdebs, "regular debian packages that are not policy compliant. They are used by the new debian-installer project, to build up the actual system that then installs debian." -- thus spake Joey Hess, the great debian genius
[17:19] <ikonia> |Debian|: never seen it behave like that
[17:19] <|Debian|> the new versions won't work on my PPC
[17:19] <ikonia> |Debian|: ahhh your on ppc
[17:19] <aimchanger> on
[17:19] <aimchanger> on
[17:19] <FloodBot2> aimchanger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:19] <aimchanger> oh
[17:20] <balle_> ikonia: i got something nvidia  but it says it's used by 0
[17:20] <Slart> |Debian|: the LTS versions work on ppc? or they just abandoned it after 6.10 ?
[17:20] <tyler> Is this the ubuntu IRC chat?
[17:20] <Slart> tyler: yes, it is
[17:20] <tyler> I was curious I was wondering how I would run EXE files?
[17:21] <aimchanger> wine
[17:21] <ikonia> tyler: only thorugh wine
[17:21] <daire> hischild: i tried to put them under the one partition table, sda1 set as use: swap, sda2 20gb = ext3 but when i tried to make the rest into a part asnd selected ext3 it said i could not put the end before the start
[17:21] <Slart> tyler: linux doesn't natively run exe files.. they use another system.. you can use wine or a !vm to run windows binaries though
[17:21] <tyler> I just installed Ubuntu Linux so what's wine?
[17:21] <Slart> !wine
[17:21] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[17:21] <aimchanger> search the universe repo for wine in synaptic
[17:21] <ompaul> !prefix | aimchanger
[17:21] <ubotu> aimchanger: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[17:22] <aimchanger> in administration
[17:22] <aimchanger> haha sorry I'm on my iPod
[17:22] <tyler> So where would I find wine?
[17:22] <hischild> daire, then the error is probably like it said, you can't put the end before the start.
[17:22] <ompaul> !wine | tyler
[17:22] <ubotu> tyler: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[17:22] <daire> hischild: what does that mean?
[17:23] <aimchanger> Tyler:search google fora howto
[17:23] <daire> where have i tried to put 'the end before the start'?
[17:23] <|Debian|> tyler: apt-cache search wine
[17:23] <tyler> Also I was wondering about that 3D cube effect where would I find that?
[17:23] <|Debian|> tyler .. waste of ram
[17:23] <daire> tyler: desktop effects
[17:23] <tyler> I got 4GB of ram.
[17:23] <aimchanger> tyler: in terminal type. Sufi apt-get install wine
[17:23] <aimchanger> sufi*
[17:23] <ompaul> aimchanger, please do not suggest to someone here to use google, find them a url or else search the bot - it has a couple of thousand factoids not all of them serious
[17:23] <balle_> anybody knows how to check if your nvidia module is loaded and if not how to load it?
[17:24] <tyler> My processor is quad core it's over clocked to 6.36ghz
[17:24] <Morydd> how can I determine which version of ubuntu I'm running?
[17:24] <Slart> sufi??
[17:24] <tyler> Morydd wouldn't you find out from which one you installed?
[17:24] <bastid_raZor> tyler; that sounds insane.. do applications open before you click them?
[17:24] <tyler> or downloaded.
[17:24] <tyler> Yes my applications do open fast.
[17:24] <swuboo> tyler:  Look into compiz fusion, the Advanced Desktop Effects Settings lets you play around a lot with the exact settings for the cube and so forth.
[17:25] <ompaul> Morydd, on the command line type "lsb-release -a"
[17:25] <tyler> Where's that?
[17:25] <tyler> I am not so professional with the navigation yet.
[17:25] <tushyd> can't get pulseaudio working with Flash player 9 non-free. can anyone help? I installed the experimental .so file on the pulseaudio site but to no avail
[17:25] <balle_> anybody knows how to check if your nvidia module is loaded and if not how to load it?
[17:26] <swuboo> tyler:  Synaptic.  Just search for compiz.
[17:26] <Slart> balle_: lsmod lists your modules..
[17:26] <tyler> Which tab would help me find synaptic
[17:26] <Slart> tyler: synaptic is in System, Administration
[17:26] <tyler> Found it
[17:26] <tyler> compiz ok let me find it
[17:27] <balle_> Slart: yes, and it does list nvidia but with 0 users and another nvidia,intel agp  but i still can't use my gfx card sadly
[17:27] <tushyd> is anyone here knowledgeable in pulseaudio?
[17:27] <tyler> Ok I see cairo-clock / compiz / compiz-bcop
[17:28] <daire> hischild: i think when you try to create a partition with unbuntu 7.04 live cd larger than 200gb you that error, 'you can't put the end before the start'
[17:28] <tyler> and so forth is it compiz that I install?
[17:28] <tyler> It says it's installed now what?
[17:28] <lauro> hi there!
[17:28] <hischild> daire, what are you using to create the partitions? perhaps you could try to use a partitioner like gparted or qtparted
[17:29] <lauro> is there anyone who can help me? how can I play mp3???
[17:29] <swuboo> tyler:  There should be a package called compiz-fusion-plugins-extra and another called compiz-fusion-plugins-main.
[17:30] <IdleOne> !mp3 | lauro
[17:30] <ubotu> lauro: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:30] <tushyd> lauro, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[17:30] <tyler> Yes
[17:30] <Slart> balle_: hmm.. odd.. Nvidia usually works without much problems..
[17:30] <tyler> I see it
[17:30] <swuboo> tyler:  You'll want those too.
[17:30] <tyler> Slart if it helps I am running 8800gt nvidia it works
[17:30] <daire> hischild:  i was trying to use the manual partitioner on the ubuntu live cd installer, i will try use something different
[17:30] <tyler> Ok I installed them or mark to install
[17:31] <tyler> How do I officially install them?
[17:31] <IdleOne> tyler: now click apply
[17:31] <cyka> hey peeps
[17:31] <cyka> whats teh line needed to updaate everything
[17:31] <tyler> Ok got it
[17:31] <cyka> or whats a good program to search for for an update manager
[17:31] <tushyd> cyka, sudo apt-get update, is that what you're taking about
[17:31] <tyler> So when I install them all what do I do?
[17:31] <IdleOne> cyka: I think you want sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[17:31] <cyka> probably tushyd
[17:31] <swuboo> tyler:  I think you probably also want libcompizconfig0.
[17:32] <rajiv_nair> hello al
[17:32] <balle_> Slart: yea, and i have been having nothing but... maybe because it's a labtop?
[17:32] <cyka> thanks IdleOne
[17:32] <swuboo> tyler:  Once all those are installed, under System, Preferences, there should be a new option called, "Advanced Desktop Settings Manager"
[17:32] <Nasra> I have a question, why when I go into webpage the letters are so small to read .....I have to use the Ctrl ++ all the time to increase the font-size ...is there a way to fix this ....so when I open a webpage  the font size are correct?
[17:32] <lauro> yeah, but how can I install gstreamer?
[17:32] <Slart> balle_: might be.. laptops can be weird
[17:32] <swuboo> tyler:  Tweak that to your heart's content.  You can adjust things like the distance the cube recedes when you rotate it, how transparent it becomes, the exact key/mouse bindings, etc. etc.
[17:33] <tyler> This is in desktop thingy?
[17:33] <rajiv_nair> lauro: install ubuntu-restricted-extras from synaptic
[17:33] <rajiv_nair> that should give you everything
[17:33] <swuboo> tyler:  I'm not sure I understand quite what you mean by desktop thingy.
[17:33] <gregory> Nasra: you can set a bigger default font in your browser settings
[17:33] <tyler> visual effects?
[17:33] <tushyd> lauro try synaptec
[17:33] <tyler> I see it
[17:33] <tyler> custum?
[17:33] <tyler> custom*
[17:33] <Nasra> gregory: thanks alot...should I save it ...right?
[17:34] <gregory> yes
[17:34] <swuboo> tyler:  Sure, I guess.
[17:34] <cyka> IdleOne: it says invalid operation "safe-upgrade"
[17:34] <tyler> I see alot of effect
[17:34] <tyler> and I found the cube
[17:34] <tyler> so how I use the cube?
[17:34] <bart2008> trying to install upgrade for cupsys, and have this problem --> dpkg: error processing cupsys (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[17:35] <rajiv_nair> cltr+alt+right/left
[17:35] <erwrwe> hi
[17:35] <swuboo> tyler:  Set up cube rotation.
[17:35] <bart2008> who can help me?
[17:35] <tyler> I did
[17:35] <tyler> I enabled it
[17:35] <Stroganoff> bart2008 there should be more error messages
[17:35] <rajiv_nair> tyler: hold ctrl+alt then click and drag
[17:35] <tyler> ok
[17:36] <tyler> SWEET
[17:36] <tyler> !!!!!!!
[17:36] <tyler> OMG
[17:36] <bart2008> Setting up cupsys (1.3.2-1ubuntu7.6) ...
[17:36] <bart2008> Reloading AppArmor profiles  Skipping profile /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd.dpkg-old
[17:36] <bart2008> : Warning.
[17:36] <bart2008> usage: update-rc.d [-n] [-f] <basename> remove
[17:36] <bart2008>        update-rc.d [-n] <basename> defaults [NN | sNN kNN]
[17:36] <FloodBot2> bart2008: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:36] <bart2008>        update-rc.d [-n] <basename> start|stop NN runlvl [runlvl] [...] .
[17:36] <rajiv_nair> hehe
[17:36] <tyler> THIS IS INSANE
[17:36] <tyler> lol
[17:36] <FloodBot2> tyler: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:36] <tyler> Oh, sorry.
[17:36] <tyler> Now about that wine.
[17:36] <swuboo> tyler:  If you're using the Advanced Desktop Effects Settings thing I told you to, you can adjust a huge amount of things involving how the cube works.
[17:36] <tyler> How do I find the download?
[17:36] <rajiv_nair> sudo apt-get install wine
[17:37] <jvm_> hi. 'uptime' prints out how long the system was actually running. how can i determine when it was last time completely restarted, not just hibernated?
[17:37] <erwrwe> isn't there wine in application list?
[17:37] <tyler> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[17:37] <tyler> is that the link?
[17:37] <atlef> tyler: http://www.wine-doors.org/wordpress/ try that one, installs a lot more then just wine
[17:37] <tyler> to the 7.10 download?
[17:37] <rajiv_nair> why use that link
[17:37] <swuboo> tyler:  Just search for 'wine' in Synaptic.
[17:37] <rajiv_nair> download using synaptic or via apt-get
[17:37] <tyler> ok
[17:38] <tyler> This is linux right?
[17:38] <rajiv_nair> GNU/Linux ;)
[17:38] <kernfreak> lol
[17:38] <tushyd> ha
[17:38] <tyler> ok
[17:38] <tyler> I just got into it.
[17:38] <bart2008> it seems like was installed, but something is wrong with post-installation of cupsys
[17:38] <swuboo> tyler:  Well, if it's not Linux, I have no idea how we just managed to set up Desktop Effects for you.
[17:38] <tyler> Does this include anti virus?
[17:38] <erwrwe> how can I use mac apps on ubuntu 7.10?
[17:38] <kernfreak> actually GNU, and linux are seperate
[17:38] <jvm_> i believe 'uptime' at my debian system printed the time since last reboot (even if the computer did not run in the time between, because it was hibernated), and 'uptime' at my ubuntu system prints the time the system was actually running (so hibernation time is not included)
[17:39] <lauro> how can I install gstreamer
[17:39] <gregory> jvm_: grep "Kernel command line" /var/log/messages
[17:39] <bart2008> Stroganoff, do you know what it could be?
[17:39] <bart2008> maybe something wrong with apparmor
[17:39] <rajiv_nair> tyler: if you are new to GNU/Linux make sure you read the following articles
[17:39] <rajiv_nair> http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[17:40] <rajiv_nair> tyler: http://www.zenwalk.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=16
[17:40] <rajiv_nair> that one too
[17:40] <tushyd> lauro, did you try synaptic?
[17:40] <tyler> I've read alot about this just ubunto made it seem like a new OS
[17:40] <erwrwe> is there a way to use mac apps on ubuntu?
[17:40] <Pici> rajiv_nair: Do you have a support question?
[17:40] <swuboo> Gah, let's not get into a GNU versus Linux discussion.
[17:40] <swuboo> tyler:  No, I don't believe there's any antivirus installed by default.
[17:40] <tyler> Erwrwe I think you should use that parrelel
[17:40] <tyler> thingy
[17:41] <ShiroUsagi> Hi, I`ll greatly appreciate if anyone could help me with my file-sharing disaster. I gave up on samba and currently am setting up nfs, it even worked until I rebooted the client-machine... No configuration changes have been made on the server side.
[17:41] <tyler> Would AVG work?
[17:41] <bart2008> how can I solve the following problem: dpkg: error processing cupsys (--configure)
[17:41] <bart2008> it was upgraded by synaptic
[17:42] <gregory> ShiroUsagi: try #ubuntu-server
[17:42] <erwrwe> mac on am2 cpu?
[17:42] <atlef> tyler: you do not need antivirus, but if you want if try clamwin
[17:42] <ShiroUsagi> gregory, It`s a slumber channel, I`ve been there earlier today, no luck.
[17:43] <jamaicanbishop> SUCCESS
[17:43] <jvm_> gregory, in my messages log file is nothing but "-- MARK --", "syslogd 1.4.1#21ubuntu3: restart." which seems to happen even if the computer is not rebooted, and "gnome-power-manager: (jvm) Resuming computer". no other messages in there, not even in the older log files.
[17:43] <gregory> ShiroUsagi: ah ok thanks for the info about channel state
[17:43] <Stroganoff> bart2008: sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys
[17:43] <jamaicanbishop> I got rid of OSE like you guys said reconfigued me permissions and everthing works
[17:43] <bart2008> let me try
[17:43] <jamaicanbishop> its a beautiful thing when a plan comes together
[17:43] <tyler> Well does this OS get viruses?
[17:44] <rajiv_nair> tyler: yes..there are/maybe viruses
[17:44] <Matrikz> (tyler): not near as many as windows
[17:44] <rajiv_nair> tyler: but fewer in no. when compared to microsoft windows and rate of spreading is also very low
[17:44] <Matrikz> and it is extremely rare when linux will get a virus
[17:44] <|Debian|> !galeon
[17:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about galeon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:44] <bart2008> Stroganoff: this is the result --> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: cupsys is broken or not fully installed
[17:44] <tyler> Ok it's just my T3 ISP calls me alot and tells me I got trogan.worms and ETC
[17:44] <tyler> IRC.WORM ones to.
[17:45] <Matrikz> that you can get
[17:45] <gregory> jvm_: sorry need to reask. you want to know when the computer was really restarted?
[17:45] <gregory> rebooted
[17:45] <jvm_> gregory, yes.
[17:45] <Matrikz> don't click on unknown urls posted in irc channels or pms
[17:45] <ShiroUsagi> gregory, I don`t mean to be picky, but it seems that developers are not on today. Your irony is a bit unfitting.
[17:45] <jvm_> gregory, at the moment i can only see how long i actually used it.
[17:45] <bart2008> what do I have to do?
[17:45] <Stroganoff> bart2008 this is the only error?
[17:45] <gregory> ShiroUsagi: there was no irony. i am nonnative. nobodys perfect
[17:45] <Stroganoff> !pastebin | bart2008
[17:45] <ubotu> bart2008: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[17:45] <bart2008> yes, this is the only error
[17:46] <Stroganoff> strange
[17:46] <erwrwe> is there nothing like wine to use mac apps?
[17:46] <Stroganoff> sudo apt-get reinstall cupsys
[17:46] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: whats the question
[17:46] <ShiroUsagi> gregory, My bad, than, sorry. This NFS/SMB stuff sucks blood out of me.
[17:46] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, I can`t mount an nfs share.
[17:46] <rajiv_nair> can nautilus handle nfs shares?
[17:46] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: ok, whats the problem/error
[17:47] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, It worked earlier today, before reboot, now I get the "timed out" error
[17:47] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, The client reboot, not the server
[17:47] <rajiv_nair> konqueror gets kio_slaves to handle nfs://
[17:47] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: is the nfs server still running, is the client service now running
[17:47] <gregory> jvm_: this gives the last time i booted up. grep "Kernel command line" /var/log/messages . still you have to manually do the math. i dont know which tool that would be, sorry.
[17:47] <rajiv_nair> nautilus handles smb:// but no nfs
[17:48] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, Everything`s up and running on the server side.
[17:48] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, There were no changes made.
[17:48] <jvm_> gregory, this command returns nothing here.
[17:48] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: what about the client
[17:48] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, Just a reboot.
[17:48] <bart2008> Stroganoff: cupsys: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[17:48] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, And this error now/
[17:48] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: I didn't ask that
[17:49] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: I asked if the NFS client was running
[17:49] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, Ah, yes.
[17:49] <Stroganoff> bart2008: sudo apt-get remove cupsys
[17:49] <gregory> jvm_: ok, then you might try to find an unambigious string via "dmesg" for your system. it prints the kernel messages when your system boots up
[17:50] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: ok, so what mount command are you using and whats the error
[17:50] <bart2008> Stroganoff, it will remove other packages, like ubuntu-desktop, for example
[17:50] <jvm_> gregory, do dmesg logs contain any timestamps?
[17:51] <gregory> jvm_: no, but dmesg gets monitored also in /var/log/messages. you would have then use the string analogously in the grep command i gave earlier
[17:51] <bart2008> is that correct?
[17:51] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, The one that worked before... sudo mount 192.168.1.33:/home/username/ /home/myshare
[17:51] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: can you do that from the server local host
[17:52] <gregory> jvm_: wait i am not sure
[17:52] <jvm_> gregory, dmesg contains a lot more messages here than the messages log file does.
[17:52] <bart2008> maybe it is a bug with cupsys...
[17:52] <gregory> jvm_: what i said should be true
[17:53] <nikin> hy
[17:53] <binarical-app> hi nikin
[17:53] <jvm_> gregory, thanks for your help. but it does not seem to apply to this computer. all messages log files here contain only a few hundred lines
[17:53] <gregory> jvm_: dmesg only records the last time you booted up, /var/log/messages has a longer history (can be days or weeks)
[17:53] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, same error "mount.nfs: mount to NFS server '192.168.1.33' failed: timed out, retrying"
[17:54] <binarical-app> how can we help you nikin
[17:54] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: ok, so your server is having an issue
[17:54] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: if you can't mount it locally, try stopping the NFS server and restarting it, (not reboot) then check for errors
[17:54] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, But that, I believe is because I didn`t add localhost to exports, isn`t it?
[17:54] <nikin> I have a computer with SSD and i want to do some graphics work and need some swap... i have an extern all HDD connected throug usb.. and i want to temporarly  allocate a 2 Gig Swap file on that... how can i do that?
[17:55] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: your not using local host, your using 192.blah
[17:55] <jvm_> gregory, i can't find any messages similiar to those dmesg returns in /var/log/messages
[17:55] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, Well, I did that a couple of times already with no visible errors.
[17:55] <tyler> Is there a setting to stop the screen from switching when mouse is in corner?
[17:55] <jvm_> gregory, either i am an idiot or my system behaves somehow different.
[17:55] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: what does the logs say
[17:56] <binarical-app> ’╗┐nikin: imo , i think you should reallocate some of your files to the external and make your swap partiton on the internal, you may need to make the external bootable
[17:56] <binarical-app> *reallocate
[17:56] <Slart> tyler: there is.. it's a bindable shortcut.. I don't know where exactly.. but there is a tab for *all* bindings
[17:57] <nikin> binarical : i cant use SSD Solid State Disk to swap... becouse it will bur it out in less than a month
[17:57] <mouwen> y a quelqun
[17:57] <nikin> and as i have an ASUS eee
[17:57] <puppetmaster> hey anybody
[17:57] <Slart> !fr | mouwen
[17:57] <nikin> its only 4 Gig
[17:57] <ubotu> mouwen: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:57] <jvm_> gregory, do you know where i should look for some shell script only executed at startup time, so i can put a "date >> ~jvm/.boottimes" there?
[17:57] <puppetmaster> How to make ubuntu to Identify a hard disk while working on it????
[17:57] <jelle> there is a special ubuntu version for asus eeepc
[17:57] <jelle> eeexubuntu
[17:57] <ikonia> puppetmaster: what do you mean ?
[17:58] <Slart> jvm_: there are the rc.d scripts.. you'll have to find info on them by yourself.. or just take a look /etc/rc.d/ I think
[17:58] <nikin> jelle: i use that
[17:58] <puppetmaster> i mean I'm working now on ubuntu
[17:58] <jelle> ok sorry nikin
[17:58] <puppetmaster> then i connected a hard disk while I'm talking to u
[17:58] <jvm_> thank you Slart.
[17:58] <ikonia> puppetmaster: ok, so what do you want done
[17:58] <puppetmaster> so the partitions didn't show
[17:58] <Slart> jvm_: you're welcome
[17:58] <nikin> jelle : pp :) but i have to work on 14000x4000 images.. and i need a lot of MEM/Swap to do that
[17:59] <binarical-app> ’╗┐nikin: if your computer is slow the perhaps you dont need all that much swap space, +250m should be enough, if you still need more go for +512. if yous till want to make the swp on the external you will have to make it bootable
[17:59] <puppetmaster> i want to make the partition show up and I don't want to restart
[17:59] <ikonia> puppetmaster: what does the syslog say, did it detect the partitions
[17:59] <ikonia> puppetmaster: what sort of disk is it ide/sata/usb ?
[17:59] <puppetmaster> it didnt detect the hard disk in the first place
[17:59] <puppetmaster> so how do I make it detect it
[17:59] <ikonia> puppetmaster: what type of disk is it ?
[17:59] <puppetmaster> ide
[17:59] <mouwen> ment sa va
[17:59] <ikonia> puppetmaster: ide is not hot plugable
[18:00] <puppetmaster> how come
[18:00] <tyler> is there a way to add more then 2 desktop views?
[18:00] <puppetmaster> in xp I just plug it
[18:00] <jelle> sudo fdisk /dev/sda or hda
[18:00] <nikin> binarical: it is not on the size... it will kill my SSD in a month.. and thats not cheap... i9 can make the xternal HDD bootable if it is a must.. but i would like to use swap file.. not swap partition
[18:00] <puppetmaster> and make scan for plug and play devices
[18:00] <jvm_> tyler, right click on the pager and click preferences.
[18:00] <ikonia> puppetmaster: ok, I'll rephrase that dbus is not looking on the ide channels
[18:00] <ikonia> puppetmaster: what file systems are on this disk ?
[18:00] <binarical-app> ’╗┐ tyler: right click on the desktops , to preferances , add more desktops.
[18:00] <h4wk> Afternoon guys, just built my new rig. Installed ubuntu - However its not picking up my gfx card (Getting to install restricted drivers) How can i force this?
[18:00] <puppetmaster> ext3
[18:00] <puppetmaster> and reiserfs
[18:00] <mouwen> est ce qu'il y a quelq'un qui parle fran├¦ais
[18:00] <ikonia> h4wk: install the restricted drivers
[18:01] <MasterShrak> !fr | mouwen
[18:01] <ubotu> mouwen: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[18:01] <Slart> mouwen: type /join #ubuntu-fr
[18:01] <ikonia> puppetmaster: plug it in and reboot - lets see if it can see the disk at all ?
[18:01] <h4wk> ikonia Sorry how do you mean reinstall?
[18:01] <MatBoy> what package do I need to use sudo /etc/init.d/mysql reset-password ?
[18:01] <nikin> !swap
[18:01] <puppetmaster> it will man
[18:01] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[18:01] <ikonia> h4wk: install (not re-install) the restricted drivers
[18:01] <puppetmaster> dude i know it will after the rebot
[18:01] <puppetmaster> reboot and my question was I don't want to do that
[18:01] <ikonia> puppetmaster: ok
[18:02] <h4wk> ikonia its coming up there is no restrice drivers
[18:02] <puppetmaster> and I was searching for a replacement
[18:02] <ikonia> puppetmaster: well, clearly something is wrong so without a reboot we can't progress
[18:02] <puppetmaster> so thanks anyway
[18:02] <ikonia> h4wk: what card is it
[18:02] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, found something like "nfsd[8696]: nfssvc: Setting version failed: errno 16 (Device or resource busy)"
[18:02] <puppetmaster> I hope developer work on that
[18:02] <puppetmaster> cuz I have to stop downloading
[18:02] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: ok, so its not looking good
[18:02] <puppetmaster> thanks
[18:02] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: are ou in the mount point your trying to mount
[18:03] <binarical-app> ’╗┐nikin: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/3346
[18:03] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, Yes, I am
[18:03] <h4wk> ikonia Nvidea 8600gt 256mb
[18:03] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: thats why it can't mount
[18:03] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: your in the directory it wants to mount
[18:03] <chester_m> Hi...somebody uses Hardy Heron (8.04)?
[18:03] <ikonia> h4wk: dpkg -l | grep nvidia pastebin the output of that
[18:03] <ikonia> chester_m: everyone in #ubuntu+1
[18:03] <Slart> !hardy | chester_m
[18:03] <ubotu> chester_m: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:03] <white_eagle> where can I configure xcompmgr after installing?
[18:04] <ikonia> white_eagle: launch it
[18:04] <white_eagle> ikonia: yes
[18:04] <balle_> anybody knows anything about nvidia 6600 go and labtops? it does seem to be not computing a bit i'm afraid.  i have enabled the drivers all fine, but ubuntu cannot detected the gfx card and screen on startup
[18:04] <white_eagle> ikonia: I already launched it
[18:04] <ikonia> white_eagle: launch it
[18:04] <ikonia> white_eagle: click the icon then
[18:04] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, Oh, that was it!
[18:04] <white_eagle> on what icon
[18:04] <ikonia> balle_: it can detect it
[18:04] <ikonia> balle_: it's just not configured
[18:04] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: easy fix ;)
[18:05] <white_eagle> i activated it using  xcompmgr -c -f -n
[18:05] <balle_> ikonia: how can i configure it then?
[18:05] <white_eagle> ikonia: can it be configured or not?
[18:05] <ikonia> balle_: I'm not wasting my time going through this again with you, but you'll get better advice if you give people correct information, it is not "not detected" it's not configured
[18:05] <ikonia> white_eagle: should be an icon on the task bar that you can use
[18:06] <daire> hischild: i successfully got around the live cd partition install bug by creating them with the gparted live cd - ty for your input
[18:06] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, Thank you very much for your help! :) Yes, it looks easy once you get a hold onto it, but "People are strange, when you`re a stranger". :) Thanks again!
[18:06] <gullstad> Is it possible to install two seperate versions of torrentflux on one server. Don't know were to ask this, but it's legale files been share, but I want to share from two diffrent homefolders.
[18:06] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: don't be a stranger happy to help
[18:06] <evilbug> hey.
[18:06] <balle_> ikonia: well.. i have tried to configure it, and ubuntu says on startup that i can't detect both screen and gfx card
[18:06] <white_eagle> ikonia: there isn't one
[18:06] <ikonia> gullstad: yes
[18:06] <abish> #fossnepal
[18:07] <ShiroUsagi> ikonia, I meant a stranger to the system. :)
[18:07] <binarical-app> ’╗┐gullstad: make two users....
[18:07] <ikonia> ShiroUsagi: still happy to help
[18:07] <daire> i am trying to install the root file system on a 20 gb partition but i am getting the error 'no root file system is defined, please correct this from the partitioning menu' - a thread about this error said to ask in this irc channel
[18:07] <h4wk> ikonia pastebin.com/m6381b2b9
[18:07] <ikonia> daire: you need to set a partition to be / in the partition tool in the installer
[18:07] <gullstad> binarical-app: I did, but how can i use two diffrent homefolders as torrentflux "root"?
[18:07] <ikonia> h4wk: thats great, the module is in pace
[18:07] <honeypot> excuse, is someone know what command should i use to know my bettery condition
[18:08] <ikonia> gullstad: just untar it into 2 different places
[18:08] <h4wk> ikonia: so its ok?
[18:08] <ikonia> gullstad: then tell apache to look in 2 place
[18:08] <hischild> daire, you're welcome
[18:08] <ikonia> h4wk: grep -i nvidai /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:08] <hischild> ikonia, s/nvidai/nvidia ;-)
[18:08] <Slart> honeypot: hmm.. I think there's a file somewhere under /proc.. hang on.. let me look
[18:08] <ikonia> hischild: thanks
[18:08] <gullstad> ikonia: They are getting information from eatchother it looks. It's torrentflux-b4rt by the way.
[18:08] <ikonia> h4wk: did you see the typo
[18:08] <daire> ikonia: ty i just discovered that and i set my other part to /home, ty :D
[18:08] <tyler> I got wine but is says the file is not safe when I try to execute an EXE file type.
[18:08] <honeypot> Slart: oh.. thanks
[18:09] <abish> hello
[18:09] <ikonia> gullstad: they shouldn't get any information off each other if they are in seperate location and usin 2 different databases
[18:09] <white_eagle> tyler: right click, run with wine
[18:09] <white_eagle> on the file
[18:09] <tyler> ok
[18:09] <binarical-app> ’╗┐gullstad: try and give the floders other names then "home" since other wise they will conflict, edit their accessablity in /etc/groups
[18:09] <white_eagle> ikonia: there isn't an icon in the taskbar
[18:09] <zxc`> I guys I encountered some problems w/ audio using snd_hda intel
[18:09] <ikonia> white_eagle: yes I heard you
[18:09] <ikonia> gullstad: are they using 2 different databases, or sets of tables
[18:09] <zxc`> looking on launchpad I saw that this is a note bug but i didn't find a solution
[18:09] <zxc`> I'm using hardy beta.
[18:10] <h4wk> ikonia: pastebin.com/m2757a7e0
[18:10] <gullstad> ikonia: Databases.. Right :P Damnit. I didnt get the setup wizard on the other installation. Only the 1st.
[18:10] <ikonia> !hardy > zxc`
[18:10] <Jack_Sparrow> zxc`, Fixing sound.. download this: http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh  #and run the script as Normal User... with this command: bash ./alsa-info.sh  ... then go to http://en.pastebin.ca/906336 and answer those questions ..  then  /join #Alsa and provide them with your question and a link to the uploaded file.
[18:10] <ikonia> gullstad: there you go they are sharing the same database
[18:10] <atlef> zxc`: !hardy
[18:10] <Slart> honeypot: I haven't got a laptop here atm.. but check in /proc/acpi/battery.. or just in /proc/acpi
[18:10] <atlef> !hardy | zxc`:
[18:10] <ubotu> zxc`:: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:10] <gullstad> ikonia: Yeh, but how did the fresh install get information from the old database?
[18:10] <honeypot> Slart: ok.. i will try it, thanks
[18:10] <ikonia> h4wk: I think we see th eproblem
[18:10] <ikonia> gullstad: default database name
[18:11] <Slart> honeypot: you're welcome
[18:11] <tyler> Would games work with Ubunto like maplestory Warrock and ETC?
[18:11] <ikonia> h4wk: please grep -i nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:11] <white_eagle> !wine | tyler
[18:11] <ubotu> tyler: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[18:11] <MasterShrak> tyler i know warrock doesnt work with wine
[18:11] <gullstad> ikonia: Oki, do you have any idea how to make a new database for the second installation?
[18:11] <ikonia> gullstad: mysql is your friend
[18:11] <jvm_> thank you gregory. good day.
[18:11] <DeadLy_sp> hey, hello :)
[18:11] <gullstad> ikonia: Well. Right now it's my enemy.
[18:12] <tyler> MySQL?
[18:12] <ikonia> gullstad: so you need to get teh schemea and create a new one
[18:12] <ikonia> tyler: yes, mysql
[18:12] <tyler> Are you suing web based?
[18:12] <h4wk> ikonia: pastebin.com/m1a4e25ca
[18:12] <Slart> tyler: some games work nicely.. some games work but run slower than a windows machine would run them.. most games don't run at all
[18:12] <tyler> Or program based.
[18:12] <ikonia> tyler: what ?
[18:12] <ikonia> tyler: what are you talking about ?
[18:12] <gullstad> ikonia: I'll try. I will probly be back in a cupple of minutes :P
[18:12] <tyler> Your asking about MySQL right?
[18:12] <ikonia> HanzZ: we have a winner
[18:12] <ikonia> tyler: no
[18:12] <Pici> !who | tyler
[18:12] <ubotu> tyler: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[18:12] <Slart> tyler: check out the application database to see how specific games work.. appdb.winehq.org
[18:12] <DeadLy_sp> please, anyone plays or know the game Regnum??? Have problems with ubuntu :((((( autoclose my client game when i've a bit played
[18:12] <ikonia> tyler: I've just recommended someone to use mysql
[18:12] <tyler> Ohhh!!!
[18:13] <DeadLy_sp> where can i info it???
[18:13] <tyler> Because I use MySQL to run my Games off my Dedicated server.
[18:13] <DeadLy_sp> hello?
[18:13] <psychopax> hello
[18:13] <Slart> tyler: huh? you use mysql to run games? what kind of games might that be?
[18:14] <ikonia> h4wk: your xorg is set to use the nv driver, not the nvidia driver, to fix this do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" answer the questions but make sure you select the nvidia driver, not the nv
[18:14] <rycole> the mysql games, ofcourse.
[18:14] <tyler> Well I wrote a few games in C++.
[18:14] <psychopax> I need linux or gnome wallpapers on cyrilian
[18:14] <psychopax> where can I find it
[18:14] <tyler> You not able to make characters without data being inputed into the queries
[18:14] <jelle> gnome-look.org
[18:14] <MasterShrak> !themes | psychopax
[18:14] <ubotu> psychopax: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[18:14] <Slart> tyler: ah.. thought you were running doom 3 on your database.. now that would be cool =)
[18:14] <siq> i'm having problems with a pptp vpn, anyone good at troubleshooting them?
[18:15] <GIn> lol
[18:15] <psychopax> tnx
[18:15] <h4wk> ikonia its only giving me nv not nvda in the list
[18:15] <jelle> does anyone has runned Call of Duty 4 with wine??
[18:15] <psychopax> Il try
[18:15] <ikonia> h4wk: ok, so "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[18:15] <Slart> !appdb | jelle
[18:15] <ubotu> jelle: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[18:15] <ikonia> h4wk: the nvidia driver is not loaded
[18:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb
[18:15] <tyler> I can also make emulators so I can copy games server files and rewrite them with a hex editor so I can host private servers.
[18:16] <livingdaylight> gmail notifier is good for one account. Anyone know of another client that can manage multiple accounts?
[18:16] <tyler> MSN?
[18:16] <jelle> msn client?
[18:16] <ikonia> livingdaylight: most biffs can only do one account
[18:16] <daire> !appdb
[18:16] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[18:16] <denique> Hi. I'm having a small problem with compiling / installing / running vlc manually; specifically, the system can't find libvlc.so.0. I have confirmed the file exists in /usr/local/lib/
[18:16] <binarical-app> ’╗┐livingdaylight: gmail uses pop and imap forwarding , they intigrate well into any mail program
[18:17] <ikonia> denique: vlc is in the ubuntu repo's you don't need to compile it
[18:17] <jelle> i know  ubotu but maybe somebody did try it
[18:17] <ikonia> binarical-app: qmail notifier is not an mta
[18:17] <AskHL> Hello.  What is the preferred way to automatically add a route on startup while retaining otherwise automatic behaviour? (i.e. without enabling 'manual configuration' in the applet)
[18:17] <daire> i can't wait to put ubuntu on a western digital raptor, it'll be a screamer
[18:17] <|Lee|> If I need to install a Linux driver for a USB device, could I just paste it on to a CD then retrieve it on Ubuntu server?
[18:17] <binarical-app> ’╗┐ikonia: thanks
[18:17] <ikonia> !offtopic > daire
[18:17] <daire> :O
[18:18] <h4wk> ikonia: note loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:18] <livingdaylight> binarical-app, yes, but i prefer to have a notifier sitting in panel and alerting me as mail comes and then going into a browser rather than use thunderbird or evolution
[18:18] <ikonia> h4wk: thats fine
[18:18] <denique> ikonia: I can't get dts passthrough working with the repository version. I have read that the latest source version fixes that.
[18:18] <ikonia> h4wk: now do the other command
[18:18] <Jack_Sparrow> |Lee|, Is it a linux driver or a windows driver you want to use under linux
[18:18] <node357> jelle, according to what I found in Google, COD4 may work in WINE.. try it
[18:18] <Orbixx> #ubuntu: Does anyone know if Ubuntu supports TV cards natively?
[18:18] <ikonia> denique: I suggest you check before wasting any more time
[18:18] <Daviey> Orbixx: many, yes
[18:18] <node357> jelle, http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/10/call-of-duty-4-works-in-wine.html
[18:18] <ikonia> Orbixx: it supports the cards that are in the kernel that all the other distros support
[18:18] <h4wk> ikonia: nope still on appreaing on the list
[18:18] <|Lee|> Jack_Sparrow: The one on the CD for my Linksys WUSB54G wireless usb adapter is Windows, but the Ralink website has linux drivers.
[18:18] <Orbixx> How would one get started, then?
[18:19] <ikonia> h4wk: does lsmod | grep -i nvidia show anything
[18:19] <binarical-app> ’╗┐’╗┐livingdaylight: i understand
[18:19] <dury> hi there all :)
[18:19] <h4wk> ikonia no
[18:19] <kyncani> denique: have you considered using hardy, it may have the version you want ? Anyway, for your .so pb, have you ldconfig'ed ?
[18:19] <ikonia> h4wk: ok, so its not loaded
[18:19] <denique> ikonia: I read the bug list and it appears to be fixed in the latest version. I just need to know why the system can't find that library. Do I need to specify the path in some evironmental variable or something?
[18:19] <ikonia> h4wk: try modprobe nvidia again ang see what the output says
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !wireless > |Lee|
[18:20] <h4wk> ikonia: still not loading
[18:20] <ikonia> denique: either the LD path is wrong or the libary is not on the system
[18:20] <siq>  /part
[18:20] <ikonia> h4wk: what does it say
[18:20] <livingdaylight> binarical-app, i'm now running gmail notifier x 2 - seems to work
[18:20] <h4wk> ikonia not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[18:20] <|Lee|> Jack_Sparrow: Don't !wireless me, it won't work, I need this to get on-line.. The point is, could I put the driver on a blank CD (Not burn, just copy and paste) and then cd /dev/cdrom and install the driver from there?
[18:20] <binarical-app> ’╗┐livingdaylight: cool, its nice to know that it works
[18:20] <binarical-app> :P
[18:20] <MmmPiGood> does anyone have wizardpen_drv.so for ubuntu gutsy? the link on the howto is dead
[18:20] <ikonia> h4wk: thats annoying
[18:21] <denique> ikonia: It exists, so it must be the path. I will look into ldconfig. Thankyou.
[18:21] <ikonia> h4wk: sudo modprobe nvidia
[18:21] <h4wk> ikonia, ill bbl i have dinner
[18:21] <ikonia> h4wk: ok
[18:21] <livingdaylight> binarical-app, yea, thought you should know... its not an elegant solution but it works :)
[18:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !attitude > |Lee|
[18:21] <dury> in my gnome desktop you all know that there two panels one in the top and the other one in the bottom... accidently I delete the bottom one. how can I recover
[18:22] <|Lee|> Abuse.
[18:22] <Orbixx> How would one get his TV card working in Ubuntu?
[18:22] <hischild> !tv | Orbixx
[18:22] <ubotu> Orbixx: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[18:22] <agony> hi. or selam
[18:22] <daire> !firewall
[18:22] <MmmPiGood> gah! the link works again, nvm
[18:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[18:22] <|Lee|> Jack_Sparrow: Instead of abusing the bot, answer the question ..
[18:22] <ikonia> |Lee|: drop the attitude if you want help
[18:22] <Jack_Sparrow> |Lee|, No it wont work..  adjust your attitude
[18:22] <hischild> |Lee|, instead of arguing, listen to the bot.
[18:22] <dury> ikonia: do you know that?
[18:22] <|Lee|> Why won't it Jack_Sparrow?
[18:23] <kyncani> dury: right-click on the remaining panel and look for a "add new panel" ? (maybe, kde user here)
[18:23] <ikonia> dury: do I know what ?
[18:23] <dury> bottom panel
[18:23] <agony> vay anas├Įn├Į ya hu
[18:23] <ikonia> dury: what about it ?
[18:23] <dury> ikonia: to recover the bottom panel
[18:23] <Tex-Twil> is there an option for "scp" to skip existing files ?
[18:23] <denique> ikonia: ldconfig -v fixed it, thanks.
[18:23] <binarical-app> ’╗┐|Lee|: what is your question
[18:24] <ikonia> dury: you've lost your bottom pannel and you want to get it back ?
[18:24] <dury> ikonia: yeah
[18:24] <binarical-app> ’╗┐|Lee|: what is "it"
[18:24] <ikonia> dury: no idea
[18:24] <|Lee|> binarical-app: Can I copy and paste a linux driver to a CD, then cd /dev/cdrom and install it from there.
[18:24] <MasterShrak> |Lee| you wouldnt cd /dev/cdrom, youd have to mount it, but yes the idea you have will work
[18:24] <ikonia> |Lee|: it will depend on the driver and it's dependencies
[18:25] <binarical-app> ’╗┐|Lee|: please tell us more about what you are trying to accomplish
[18:25] <ikonia> |Lee|: what is the driver for ?
[18:25] <gregory> ErkekAdam: maybe this can be of help to you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#head-729211ea4fb3c5b535d3d8a533dbc007c8dbce14
[18:25] <MasterShrak> |Lee| if the driver is online, wget would work, save you a cd :)
[18:25] <|Lee|> ikonia: Linksys WUSB54G v4 wireless usb network adapter
[18:25] <|Lee|> MasterShrak: It is on-line, but I need the driver to get the box on-line :P
[18:25] <ikonia> |Lee|: what type of driver is it a linux one, a windows one, what linux kernel is it built against ?
[18:25] <ErkekAdam> gregory thx bro
[18:25] <gullstad> ikonia: Hello. They are now two databases, but they are still extanging information.
[18:26] <gullstad> ikonia: Somehow :P
[18:26] <ikonia> gullstad: have you configured one of the other machines to use the second database ? how did you build a new database ?
[18:26] <binarical-app> ’╗┐|Lee|: i think that a whole cd is a waste for one driver , perhaps what you should look into is : madwifi or : ndiswrapper
[18:26] <ikonia> gullstad: other clients sorry
[18:26] <gullstad> ikonia: I ran the setup.php on the fresh installation
[18:26] <ikonia> binarical-app: how is madwifi or ndiswrapper going to help if he doesn't have a driver ?
[18:26] <ErkekAdam> gregory
[18:26] <|Lee|> binarical-app: How can I install those without internet?...
[18:27] <ErkekAdam> i wanna free irvcd shell ?
[18:27] <ikonia> |Lee|: ignore that
[18:27] <Ollie> How do I boot Ubuntu from a Live-CD when it doesn't boot by default?
[18:27] <ikonia> |Lee|: what type of driver is it a linux one, a windows one, what linux kernel is it built against ?
[18:28] <gullstad> Ollie: Go into your BIOS and change your BOOT-sequence. HDD is probly 1st.
[18:28] <dury> hey guys how do I get back the bottom pannel
[18:28] <|Lee|> ikonia: http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html It's one of those, that's all I'm sure about. :P
[18:28] <binarical-app> ’╗┐|Lee|: madwifi is built from source therefore no "connection" is nessecary if you already have the source code to extract. please print out a how to before you reboot and begin
[18:28] <ikonia> gullstad: try connecting to both databases
[18:28] <gregory> ErkekAdam: what is a afree irvcd shell?
[18:28] <simplexio> |Lee|: yes you can move files to another computer just burning them into cd
[18:28] <Ollie> gullstad: IS that only way?
[18:28] <gullstad> Ollie: Probly.
[18:28] <Jack_Sparrow> dury, You need to click on the top panel and add a new one
[18:28] <simplexio> |Lee|: but i dont understand why to even ask it
[18:28] <gullstad> ikonia: WHat do you mean?
[18:28] <ErkekAdam> part
[18:28] <Ollie> Anyone else know a different way to boot Ubuntu from Live-CD, without changing BOIS?
[18:28] <h4wk> ikonia, im back
[18:29] <Legendre> Quick question.. I've got a laptop with the Atheros 52** wifi chipset.. where do I find the madwifi package for it??
[18:29] <binarical-app> ’╗┐|Lee|: ndiswrapper uses the windows driver you (may have on a windows partition) if you are runing windows right now then using ndiswrapper will work well for you.
[18:29] <ChaosParser> Ollie: Try pressing F12 at boot.  A lot of BIOS have a one time boot menu.
[18:29] <gullstad> Ollie: No. It's easy.
[18:29] <Legendre> is it apt-gettable or do I have to compile it?
[18:29] <h4wk> Ollie normally f12 to get into boot menu
[18:29] <Slart> Ollie: well.. there's all kinds of settings to change how it loads etc.. noacpi and such
[18:29] <Ollie> I know how to
[18:29] <ikonia> |Lee|: depending on which driver you use, it will depend on how it works, some drivers support 2.6.24 others stop at 2.6.21
[18:29] <Ollie> Just I wanted to know if any easier way
[18:29] <ikonia> binarical-app: but he'll still need to put ndiswrapper on a CD to burn it !3~
[18:29] <mrslow__> Hi, can anyone help with some driver problems on a 5 year old Sony laptop with Ubuntu 7.04
[18:29] <Ollie> And I think it is actually F2 for my BIOS
[18:30] <ikonia> gullstad: so you created the database using the setup.php ?
[18:30] <jelle> or Dell
[18:30] <ikonia> gullstad: did you call the databases difference names ?
[18:30] <Ollie> So, I change the boot settings to boot from DVD Drive by default and Seconday is hard drive/
[18:30] <ChaosParser> mrslow_: We won't know till we know what the problem is. :-p
[18:30] <gullstad> ikonia: Yes.
[18:30] <gullstad> ikonia: Same MySQL user though.
[18:30] <binarical-app> ’╗┐|Lee|: please use mad wifi. it will make your life alot easyer. the application itself isnt very large, you can put it on a usb stick if you want
[18:31] <ikonia> gullstad: that shouldn't be a problem. Connect to both databases, and check the config files, make sure they are both using the different databases.
[18:31] <dury> Jack_Sparrow: got it
[18:31] <mrslow__> haha, the laptop has a scroll wheel by the latch and trackpad, just wondering if there would be drivers for it
[18:31] <gullstad> ikonia: Sec.
[18:31] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[18:31] <ikonia> binarical-app: why are you being so awkward
[18:31] <ikonia> binarical-app: he said he can only use a cd
[18:31] <dury> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[18:31] <Ollie> Alright, going to try changing BOIS, can I totally much up my computer by doing it?
[18:31] <ikonia> binarical-app: what is the difference of putting a driver or madwifi on a cdrom
[18:31] <Jack_Sparrow> dury, add whatever you need back into it..
[18:31] <gullstad> ikonia: Yup. Two databases whit diffrent name. Built exactly the same.
[18:31] <binarical-app> im sorry ’╗┐ikonia, i was only trying to help
[18:32] <ChaosParser> mrslow_: Model?
[18:32] <ikonia> binarical-app: your just making nonsense comments
[18:32] <|Lee|> Is build-essential installed on Ubuntu server by default?
[18:32] <ikonia> binarical-app: and you did with the qmail issue
[18:32] <ikonia> |Lee|: no
[18:32] <Ollie> slart:Can I do anything wrong by changing BOIS?
[18:32] <h4wk> |Lee| no
[18:32] <mrslow__> ChaosParser: PCG-GRS515SP
[18:32] <dury> Jack_Sparrow: that's what I'm doing
[18:32] <|Lee|> ikonia: What about linux-headers-'uname -r'?
[18:32] <ikonia> |Lee|: no
[18:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Ollie, NOt as long as you are only changing the boot sequence
[18:32] <gullstad> ikonia: Exept the other (new one) is smaller. As expected. So they are not cloned.
[18:32] <ikonia> gullstad: ok, so what is the location of the two different torrent flux installs ?
[18:32] <finek> !fakeroot
[18:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeroot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:32] <Slart> Ollie: not if you use the regular BIOS setup thingy.. well. you don't want to click around just to try things out.. but changing boot order won't mess things up
[18:33] <dury> Jack_Sparrow: the trash
[18:33] <finek> what is fakeroot?
[18:33] <Ollie> Ok, cheers guys!
[18:33] <gullstad> ikonia: /var/www/torrentflux and /var/www/mgwtorrent
[18:33] <|Lee|> ikonia: Damn, I'll need to get those and another package on to it, but then I found a tutorial on the Ubuntu forums ikonia.
[18:33] <|Lee|> I gotta go
[18:33] <Ollie> Hopefully see you, when I in Ubuntu!!
[18:33] <Slart> Ollie: and there's usually a "Reset to defaults" option somewhere in there
[18:33] <binarical-app> ’╗┐ikonia: there are simple ways to do things, as well as complicated ones. it really is a matter of opinion
[18:33] <Ollie> Oh right, ta!
[18:33] <dury> Jack_Sparrow: the four different desktops
[18:34] <gullstad> ikonia: Think server reboot could have done it?
[18:34] <ikonia> binarical-app but what you are suggesting was no easier than putting a precompiled driver that is MEANT for linux on a cd, than putting a madwifi package on a cd that is not MEANT for linux
[18:34] <ikonia> gullstad: nah
[18:34] <ikonia> gullstad: it looks like they are still using the sambe db
[18:34] <ikonia> gullstad: how did you do the 2 installs ?
[18:34] <dury> and to show the desktop
[18:34] <Jack_Sparrow> dury, THey are named something odd,, task or desktop switcher.. one sec
[18:34] <h4wk> ikonia, still coming up with Not loading nvidia module; note used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:34] <ikonia> h4wk: sudo modprobe nvidia ?
[18:34] <siq> I'm having a problem with pptp VPN, I need help so i can do work, can anyone help?
[18:35] <gullstad> ikonia: One of them I installed a long time ago, but basiblt I just moved the html folder into a suited /var/www/folder and ran the setup.php on both.
[18:35] <h4wk> ikonia thats what im doing
[18:35] <ChaosParser> mrslow_: Try to use it a few times, then grab the output of cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[18:35] <binarical-app> ’╗┐ikonia: in the short term, yes you are correct, however in my personal experiance using ndiswrapper was alot more of a headache , then madwifi is.
[18:35] <ikonia> gullstad: thats why they are seeing the same
[18:35] <ikonia> gullstad: they are still using the same db
[18:35] <gullstad> ikonia: I figured it out. Server is worki'n fine. Just a STUPID misstake by me :p
[18:36] <ikonia> binarical-app: he was using NEITHER !
[18:36] <finek> what is fakeroot and when can i use it?
[18:36] <Jack_Sparrow> dury, window selector          or            workspace switcher
[18:36] <binarical-app> ’╗┐ikonia: that really is a matter of opinion, and i here by drop the subject
[18:36] <ikonia> gullstad: what was it ?
[18:36] <Jack_Sparrow> dury, the last is show desktop
[18:36] <ikonia> binarical-app: he didn't want to use madwifi or ndiswapper
[18:36] <gullstad> ikonia: They are oki. But my web-browser stored one of them in cache and since they are form the same server he interperated both as one.
[18:36] <dury> got it
[18:36] <gullstad> ikonia: Just cleared cache :)
[18:36] <mrslow__> ChaosParser: ok, I'm fairly new to the whole Linux scene but I'm a confident PC user ;) how do i go about that?
[18:36] <ikonia> gullstad: ahhhhhh
[18:36] <dury> thanks
[18:36] <ikonia> gullstad: good call
[18:36] <ikonia> gullstad: well found
[18:36] <kotka_zla> server irc.omega.bg
[18:37] <dury> got it all thanks
[18:37] <gullstad> ikonia: Thanks. You been at good help. I love you :)
[18:37] <ChaosParser> mrslow_: Open a terminal, type cat /proc/bus/input/devices and press enter
[18:37] <finek> kotka_zla, nie spamuj ;D
[18:37] <ChaosParser> mrslow_: Then post the output in pastebin
[18:37] <mrslow__> aha, that easy
[18:37] <ChaosParser> !pastebin
[18:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> dury.. just dont do it again. :)
[18:38] <gullstad> ikonia: I'll problt be back though. Since I tend to mess things up :)
[18:38] <ikonia> gullstad: don't worry, every one makes mistakes
[18:39] <h4wk> ikonia: Still getting the same error and using sudo modprobe nvidia
[18:39] <gullstad> ikonia: Not like mine :P My last install i managed to make all accounts whitout root prevliges :P
[18:39] <ikonia> h4wk: sudo insmod nvidia.ko
[18:40] <h4wk> ikonia no such file or dir
[18:40] <ikonia> h4wk: you'll have to go into /lib/$kernel/modules
[18:40] <mrslow__> ChaosParser: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63205/
[18:40] <ikonia> K4k: then I think it's "nvidia" under that
[18:40] <mrslow__> sorry it took me a while
[18:40] <ikonia> h4wk: or maybe video
[18:41] <ikonia> h4wk: /lib/modules/$kernel sorry
[18:41] <kusanagi_> hi, i have no sound... i tried vlc and totem... the thing is... ive got sound in webpages... but not in movies... ive got the volume up and all the codecs ( i think vlc even have theirs owns codecs built-in) ... since ive got sound in webs.. i assume it has to be a stupid thing... but im super noob... anyhelp?
[18:41] <ikonia> h4wk: then video or nvidia I can't remember
[18:41] <h4wk> ikonia
[18:41] <h4wk> nvidia-new
[18:42] <h4wk> ikonia but there is a nvidia dir
[18:42] <ikonia> h4wk: ahh
[18:42] <ikonia> h4wk: ooooh look in both
[18:42] <ikonia> h4wk: is there a nvidia.ko in either/both
[18:42] <h4wk> ikonia; no there isnt
[18:42] <ikonia> h4wk: thats ood
[18:42] <ikonia> h4wk: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[18:43] <dts> my firefox doesn't start anymore. I reinstalled it in synaptic and deleted my .mozilla directory. What else could i do to reset it?
[18:43] <dury> Jack_Sparrow: somebody else did it
[18:44] <noodlesgc> dts open a terminal and type firefox and tell us what error message you get
[18:44] <h4wk> ikonia: done.. modprobe now?
[18:44] <ikonia> h4wk: what happened ?
[18:44] <ikonia> h4wk: after the apt-get
[18:45] <h4wk> ikonia: it installed
[18:45] <murlidhar> kusanagi_, does sound work in youtube
[18:45] <ikonia> h4wk: oooh something must have happened on the re-install
[18:45] <ikonia> h4wk: if you reboot now it should sort it's self out
[18:45] <h4wk> so bak in the reconfig
[18:45] <kusanagi_> yes murlidhar
[18:45] <dury> Jack_Sparrow:: really appreciate your support :)
[18:45] <dury> Jack_Sparrow:: believe me
[18:46] <h4wk> ikonia: its just booting up
[18:46] <dts> noodlesgc: i did "firefox -safe-mode" and an initial screen came up asking me what to do and i clicked reset to defaults,etc. Then it asked me to restore session or to start new and i clicked new session. Then nothing happens
[18:46] <dury> bbl
[18:46] <noodlesgc> dts try sudo dpkg-reconfigure firefox
[18:46] <dts> noodlesgc: now it's just hanging there, no firefox opening
[18:46] <daire> !res
[18:46] <murlidhar> kusanagi_, u said u had volumes up .  in the application . or in the volume tray?
[18:46] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type ┬½ sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart ┬╗ in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:46] <daire> !nvidia
[18:46] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:47] <QuickGold> If I'm moving my Ubuntu web server and I want to have it reflect the new IP address it receives, what setting(s) do I need to change (using CLI)?
[18:47] <BizMan2008> anyone know of any ssh settings that would cause a vnc connection through putty to never fully connect?
[18:47] <simplexio> kusanagi_: in terminal type amixer, and set volumes up from there, and i mean every volume up, wouldnt be first time that its problem
[18:47] <kusanagi_> murlidhar,  both... even the spekers
[18:48] <mrslow__> ChaosParser: did you get the pastebin?
[18:48] <kusanagi_> i did it simplexio ... evn the mic
[18:48] <dts> noodlesgc: no luck
[18:48] <murlidhar> kusanagi_, strange
[18:48] <kusanagi_> i set up both alsa and oss
[18:49] <noodlesgc> dts open gnome-terminal and look for any firefox processes and kill them
[18:49] <noodlesgc> dts i meant gnome-system-monitor
[18:49] <murlidhar> kusanagi_, i dunno but there might a command to reset the whole sound settings
[18:49] <dts> noodlesgc: did that already, restarted too
[18:49] <unop> QuickGold, it's hard to know what you really want from that question there.
[18:50] <unop> QuickGold, you want to know how to change/set an IP address using the CLI?
[18:50] <murlidhar> kusanagi_, did it suddenly stopped working
[18:50] <noodlesgc> dts is this the firefox from the repositories? are you on Hardy or Gutsy?
[18:50] <kusanagi_> no, it never worked on vlc
[18:50] <kusanagi_> and i cannot select any device in the program either murlidhar
[18:50] <QuickGold> unop: The box will automatically get the IP address.  What I guess I'm asking, is there something I need to change so my web server will respond to the new IP address instead of the previous IP address?
[18:50] <h4wk> ikonia
[18:51] <h4wk> Many thanks all working :D <3
[18:51] <kusanagi_> is there any larger ubuntu faq explaining mor ubuntu basics things than the official faq?
[18:51] <murlidhar> kusanagi_, are u able to change the devices
[18:51] <dts> noodlesgc: yea it is, i'm on gutsy
[18:51] <kusanagi_> mmm how to change the devices?
[18:51] <murlidhar> kusanagi_, alsa mixers to oss mixers
[18:51] <dts> noodlesgc: heh, just instaled firefox3
[18:51] <hischild> kusanagi_, google for the ubuntu training wiki
[18:51] <dts> i gues that works well enough
[18:51] <unop> QuickGold, well, that really depends on how you configured apache - and servers really shouldn't have IP addresses that are variable, it's best to assign them static ones
[18:51] <h4wk> ikonia: oh shit i did reconfig now all i get when i restatt is a no signal
[18:51] <kusanagi_> i think i only can select the drivers sets from the try but anything else murlidhar
[18:51] <h4wk> on my monitor
[18:51] <daire> !upgrade
[18:51] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:52] <kusanagi_> i tried both murlidhar
[18:52] <noodlesgc> dts, so firefox3 from the repository?
[18:52] <Teo-> how can i add more workspaces on ubuntu 7.10 ??
[18:52] <MrObvious> !cron
[18:52] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[18:52] <tyler> Is there anyway to make the taskbar look diffrent?
[18:52] <dts> noodlesgc: yea
[18:52] <menakcman> which is the channel for help on algorithms ?
[18:53] <noodlesgc> dts, i dont know what could be wrong, i dont have FF3
[18:53] <dts> noodlesgc: i had firefox 2 before, that was the broken one.
[18:53] <dts> noodlesgc: now i'm just using 3 because it works :-/
[18:53] <murlidhar> kusanagi_, from the sound tray icon . click open volume control and then click file
[18:53] <noodlesgc> dts oh
[18:53] <kusanagi_> i only see some phyton trainir hischild
[18:53] <noodlesgc> menakcman in  what language?
[18:53] <menakcman> C
[18:54] <hischild> kusanagi_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[18:54] <noodlesgc> menakcman try joining #c
[18:54] <unop> menakcman,  #c and ##algorithms
[18:54] <backslash> Hi all
[18:55] <backslash> I would like to share my current Desktop with a friend. Which VNC would I use for that? Real, Tight, normal... Can I just install them using apt ?
[18:55] <tyler> Is there anyway to make the bottum and top taskbar look any better or change how it looks
[18:55] <kusanagi_> i changed the device in the tray options murlidhar... its the same :S
[18:55] <Teo-> how can i add more workspaces on ubuntu 7.10 ??
[18:55]  * MmmPiGood needs help getting a Genius MousePen 8x6 working under ubuntu gutsy
[18:55] <noodlesgc> Teo- do you have a workspaces applet any of your applets?
[18:55] <tyler> Teo: right click a work space and hit properties.
[18:56] <simplexio> backslash: i think default install allready has done it
[18:56] <murlidhar> kusanagi_, sorry i outta ideas
[18:56] <tyler> Teo: then set it.
[18:56] <verypingu> hello
[18:56] <murlidhar> hi
[18:56] <simplexio> backslash: system->preferences->remote desktop, you only need vnc client which is tsclient ot vncviewer
[18:56] <kusanagi_> tahnks hischild ill study that :)
[18:57] <MmmPiGood> help with wizardpen driver?
[18:57] <Teo-> noodlesgc, i have awn toolbar and i cant change the number of workspaces:S
[18:57] <tyler> Teo: My bad Hit preferences and then set columns to more then 1 or less.
[18:57] <backslash> simplexio: oh really? Oh cool... But how does it work then, do users logon have a own desktop or can they watch me doing stuff ?
[18:57] <kusanagi_> thanks murlidhar ... i think it has to be some stupid thing... but i dont know what
[18:57] <backslash> simplexio: I'd just like to show some things
[18:57] <simplexio> backslash: that is used for desktop sharing ..
[18:58] <kusanagi_> murlidhar, ,   thank you for trying.... ill keep reading the trainer till sumthing comes up
[18:58] <backslash> simplexio: ? Yes desktop sharing... Is that remote desktop here?
[18:58] <murlidhar> kusanagi_, no probs
[18:58] <backslash> simplexio: Can I just say screen 0 and he can see and control the same as I'm working on?
[18:58] <hischild> kusanagi_, you're welcome
[18:58] <verypingu> How does it work this chat?
[18:58] <cristi1990> how do i change the owner of a file?
[18:58] <simplexio> backslash: urmm. it there where desktop is shared ;)
[18:58] <murlidhar> verypingu, ???
[18:58] <Lamego> cristi1990, man chown
[18:59] <backslash> simplexio: what? sorry ^^
[18:59] <noodlesgc> verypingu just ask a question and someone should try to help you
[18:59] <mazaf> does any one know if basket note has a spell checking feature ?
[18:59] <cristi1990> Lamego: can u give me parameters too? chown what?
[18:59] <juannicolas> how can I recover the default folders of postgres with dpkg?
[18:59] <Lamego> cricket_, please read the manual it provides a better description, man chown :)
[18:59] <MmmPiGood> so i've followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpen verbatim, but the tablet is not showing up in 'xinput list'. help?
[18:59] <froglet> evince renders black and white scans without antialiasing. Is there a workaround? example: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~randy/Evince.png
[19:00] <simplexio> backslash: probably.. he just start vncviewer yourdesktop:0 ... then you accpet connection and he can just watch or other way around
[19:00] <legend2440> !pie
[19:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:00] <hischild> legend2440, please don't try out commands in the public channel.
[19:00] <legend2440> ok
[19:01] <fangorious> what's the best way to have something run at boot as a regular user?
[19:01] <backslash> simplexio: okay, thank you very much bro!
[19:01] <backslash> cya
[19:01] <noodlesgc> fangorious add it in system->preferences->sessions
[19:02] <froglet> or, how do i get firefox and other apps to use kpdf instead of evince?
[19:02] <fangorious> noodlesgc: wouldn't that just cover something launching when they log into gnome? I need it to run when the system boots
[19:02] <MasterShrak> fangorious add your command to /etc/rc.local (i think thats what it is in ubuntu)
[19:02] <MmmPiGood> MasterShrak: isn't that run as root though?
[19:02] <fangorious> MasterShrak: won't that run it as root then?
[19:03] <MasterShrak> yes, i was not aware that it didnt need to be, how about: su -c <command> <user>
[19:03] <unop> sudo better
[19:03] <unop> sudo -u user COMMAND
[19:03] <hischild> MasterShrak, isn't it the other way around? sudo su -c user command?
[19:03] <murlidhar> froglet, in firefox go to edit>preferences>applications
[19:04] <unop> fangorious, you can use a cronjob - with the @reboot directive
[19:04] <froglet> murlidhar: ok, and how about when i double click in nautilus?
[19:04] <combo> hi, can someone tell me how can i logout so i can change session from fluxbox to KDE ??
[19:04] <MmmPiGood> one last probe for anyone that knows something about wizardpen...
[19:04] <fangorious> unop: ah! I knew there was something like that, just couldn't remember the details. Thanks
[19:05] <tyler> Can I get msn on Ubuntu like 9.0?
[19:05] <Pelo> combo, ctrl alt backspace should do it
[19:05] <noodlesgc> combo System->Quit... ?
[19:05] <DJones> tyler: Use Pidgin for msn, that seems to be what most people use
[19:05] <legend2440> froglet: right click pdf file properties>open with
[19:05] <Pelo> tyler-_, you can use amsn , it is in the repos I beleive
[19:05] <jochmenDS> or amsn
[19:05] <Pelo> !amsn > tyler-_
[19:05] <murlidhar> froglet, right click on the pdf file , select properties then "open with"
[19:06] <MasterShrak> Pelo wrong nick :P
[19:06] <TailsLinux> lol
[19:06] <Pelo> sigh ....
[19:06] <froglet> murlidhar: cool, thanks!
[19:06] <unicum> i just set up an ubuntu 7.10 which, thanx to alternate install, came out of the box with lilo. if i update to hardy now, will it stay lilo or change to grub?
[19:06] <murlidhar> froglet, mention not :)
[19:06] <kakoonia> !qbase
[19:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qbase - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:07] <AlphaOmega> how do i know if ubuntu is seeing my on-board firewire port?
[19:07]  * Pelo thinks ppl who just put random caracters at the end and beginning of their nick should be hung drawn and quartered,  not sure what quartered is but I hope it is slow and painfull
[19:07] <noodlesgc> unicum should stay lilo
[19:07] <MasterShrak> lol @ Pelo
[19:07] <Pelo> AlphaOmega,  you can try and look in  hardware info , in the prefs menu
[19:07] <kakoonia> anyone knows a paralel program for Qbase?
[19:07] <MasterShrak> AlphaOmega plug something into it and type dmesg
[19:07] <unicum> noodlesgc i got a "should" in #ubuntu+1 as well.. although i'd really prefer a "will" ^^
[19:08] <TailsLinux> maybe people should be fdisked too
[19:08] <evilbug> i have a really old pc and i want to salvage some stuff off of the hdd,how would i do that? it's an IDE drive,'98 compaq presario desktop.
[19:08] <Pelo> kakoonia, search for qbase in the repos
[19:08] <juannicolas> how can i restore postgresql in ubuntu with dpkg?
[19:08] <AlphaOmega> MasterShrak: what do i grep for?
[19:08] <MasterShrak> AlphaOmega just look at the end of the output
[19:08] <kakoonia> pelo, Thanks.
[19:08] <froglet> evilbug: take the hdd out, attach it via a usb enclosure
[19:08] <jelle> evilbug use a screwdriver and just disconnect de hd
[19:08] <AlphaOmega> gotcha
[19:08] <AlphaOmega> thanks
[19:08] <Pelo> evilbug,  might want to give puppy linux live cd a try , it's very very very light , perfect for old pc
[19:08] <noodlesgc> unicum, well you dont have the grub package from the repo, so it probably wont just install it for fun
[19:09] <kakoonia> pelo, i looked for it, nothing came up, what do you mean by repositories? i look in the Synaptic pkg-man..
[19:09] <unicum> noodlesgc: sound's fair, thx
[19:10] <Pelo> kakoonia, synaptic is a front end , it uses the repositories for installing and searching
[19:10] <kakoonia> Pelo, so should i look for it there?
[19:10] <Pelo> kakoonia, google and the www.ubuntuforums.org would be your next stop then , or a qbase channel if  you can find one
[19:10] <backslash> simplexio: Its me again, but just one question: Is there a good tutorial about VNC in general, installation and configuration in console, without X / gnome ?
[19:11] <kakoonia> Pelo, ok, thanks budd.
[19:11] <trappist> I've just tried to install update-manager-core on a dapper server, and there doesn't seem to be any such package.  any ideas why?
[19:11] <ratpk>  :D
[19:11] <MmmPiGood> having problems with xorg input devices. help?
[19:11]  * Pelo is so bored he's getting ready to mod his case 
[19:11] <Pelo> MmmPiGood, what device ?
[19:12] <sweetsinse> i cant get firefox to "open with" correctly
[19:12] <sweetsinse> firefox 3 is not respecting the mimetypes
[19:12] <Pelo> sweetsinse, what kind of file , what app ?
[19:12] <sweetsinse> any file any app
[19:12]  * backslash (@pelo) has just finished his glowing caseground (acrylplate & LEDs)
[19:12] <sweetsinse> the list is blank
[19:12] <Pelo> sweetsinse, are you in gutsy or in hardy ?
[19:12] <sweetsinse> both
[19:12] <MmmPiGood> Pelo: Genius MousePen 8x6 "UC-LOGIC Tablet WP8060U"
[19:12] <sweetsinse> but we'll say gutsy :)
[19:13] <Pelo> backslash, I just want to add air-holes in the front for some extra fans
[19:13] <sweetsinse> i looked at /etc/mime.types
[19:13] <backslash> ah okay
[19:13] <Pelo> MmmPiGood, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport  and www.ubuntuforums.org
[19:13] <siq> anyone good with troubleshooting vpn issues?
[19:13] <backslash> Pelo: I've cut my case's top to install a 120mm-fan ;)
[19:13] <sweetsinse> and ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list
[19:14] <backslash> Pelo: that's really cool and makes the whole thing cool.. anyway cya
[19:14] <Pelo> backslash, I tend to keep it low key anyway,   the only real mod I would be likely to do would be to arrage the hardaware inside a drawer
[19:14] <murlidhar> lol
[19:14] <murlidhar> lol @ Pelo
[19:14]  * Pelo hates it when ppl speak and run 
[19:14] <anthony> Pelo: I've thought of the same thing - computer in a cabinet.  Wood, of course.
[19:14] <Pelo> murlidhar, why ?
[19:15] <sweetsinse> ideas?  anyone else runing firefox 3
[19:15] <murlidhar> Pelo, this is the second instance
[19:15] <Pelo> anthony, I just thinks it takes too much room on the floor underneath my drafting table
[19:15] <noodlesgc> sweetsinse you could try in #firefox
[19:15] <Pelo> sweetsinse, I do but it works fine for me ,  in hardy
[19:15] <sweetsinse> i have hardy too
[19:15] <sweetsinse> but i use xfce on both
[19:16] <sweetsinse> i have read that the applications list uses gnome-vfs
[19:16] <Pelo> sweetsinse, try asking in #ubuntu+1 you are more likely to find someone wiith experience of FF3 problem
[19:17]  * Pelo grabs a pcs of paper and starts toying with the notion of making a drawer for the computer hardware 
[19:17] <siq> i need help with a vpn problem
[19:18] <sweetsinse> pelo are you runnig gnome
[19:18] <juannicolas> Can someone help me with how to restore postgres common files with dpkg? beacuse when doing the apt-gte install postgresql is not creating the /etc/postgresql folder
[19:18] <Pelo> sweetsinse, yes
[19:18] <anthony> Pelo: The layout of components and such is standardized, correct?  (ATX, etc.)
[19:18] <SARKO> que pasa my pplz
[19:18] <Lamego> juannicolas, sudo apt-get remove --purge package
[19:19] <siq> I'm connecting to a pptp vpn, everything authenticates fine but the ip changes don't reflect on my nic, and I can't connect to the network I need to vpn to access..someone please help
[19:19] <Lamego> that should remove the conf files, and they should be installed with a reinstall
[19:19] <baffle> I have noticed a strange bug on my laptop (IBM T42) Hardy installation. "hald-addon-input" consumes all CPU and makes the system really sluggish until I kill it. Looking at strace outputs, it seems to fail polling one of the /dev/input/event1, wich seems to point to ../../devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input1/event1 .. Is this a known bug?
[19:19] <noodlesgc> !hardy | baffle
[19:19] <ubotu> baffle: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:19] <gullstad> How can I display the size of a folder in MB in therminal?
[19:19] <arunkale> !lamp
[19:19] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[19:19] <juannicolas> Lamego so, how do I installed it again
[19:20] <Lamego> juannicolas, sudo apt-get install package
[19:20] <Lamego> gullstad, man du
[19:20] <Pelo> anthony,  well I would need to orient the mobo so the plugs that usualy come out at the back of a case come out on the side of a drawer,  ( takinginto account the desk I'm using) and toward the bac,  the rest would be to put the cd/dvd toward the front for access , and there should be room enough around the cpu to provide good air flow
[19:20] <anthony> Pelo: right
[19:21] <nixnoob> does anyone have any experience using libusb-1.0?
[19:21] <arunkale> i can run a local server with both python and php, right?
[19:22] <Lamego> arunkale, yes
[19:22] <arunkale> Lamego: thanks.. how do i go about doing that? Python is already installed, but do I need to do anything more to get it to work with Apache/MySQL? Sorry if that's a noob question
[19:23] <fyreofchaos13> Can somebody help me? I'm having issues with installing TinTin++...
[19:23] <anthony> arunkale: yeah, they're just modules to apache, which can be simultaneously enabled.  The settings for apache will determine which to use for different file types.
[19:23] <Lamego> arunkale, I have never used python for web development
[19:23] <Lamego> have you installed mod_python ?
[19:23] <Lamego> libapache2-mod-python
[19:23] <arunkale> Lamego: nope, not installed anything yet.. just want to know the details before I install stuff
[19:25] <Lamego> arunkale, install mod python and check it's documentation, http://www.modpython.org/live/current/doc-html/
[19:25] <juannicolas> Lamego  i did the apt-get install postgresql and goes fine, but when entering to the /etc/ folder there should be a postgresql folder and is not
[19:25] <fronten> Hi
[19:25] <mikebot> Has anyone here ever used webhttrack in ubuntu?
[19:26] <Lamego> juannicolas, you must be installing the wrong package, I guess you want the -server package
[19:26] <|Lee|> Ok, I plugged in my ethernet cord, but Ubuntu server isn't detecting it, what do I do now?
[19:26] <fronten> anyone used maya unlimited 2008 here on ubuntu ?
[19:26] <arunkale> do i have to install anything else to use mysql with python?
[19:27] <|Lee|> ikonia: You here?
[19:27] <juannicolas> Lamego i'm following this tutorial on how to install Request Tracker i nubuntu http://www.ubuntugeek.com/request-trackerrt-ticketing-system-for-your-support-group.html
[19:27] <PriceChild> arunkale: python-mysqldb might be useful
[19:27] <PriceChild> !info python-mysql | arunkale
[19:27] <ubotu> arunkale: Package python-mysql does not exist in gutsy
[19:27] <PriceChild> !info python-mysqldb | arunkale
[19:27] <ubotu> arunkale: python-mysqldb (source: python-mysqldb): A Python interface to MySQL. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.2-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 92 kB, installed size 332 kB
[19:27] <|Lee|> Ok, I plugged in my ethernet cord, but Ubuntu server isn't detecting it, what do I do now? <- PriceChild, can you help?
[19:27] <Lamego> arunkale, python-mysqldb
[19:27] <PriceChild> |Lee|: how do you know it isn't?
[19:28] <arunkale> Lamego: thanks! really appreciate it
[19:28] <arunkale> thanks PriceChild
[19:28] <Lamego> juannicolas, I don't use postgres, sorry
[19:28] <|Lee|> PriceChild: ifconfig only showed the local loopback, and ping www.google.com is an unknown host.
[19:28] <jaek> do the xine-plugin or mozilla-plugin-vlc packages work for anyone on hoary? about:plugins doesn't show them after i installed them
[19:28] <juannicolas> Ok, but the only thing I need is how to restore the common files of
[19:28] <PriceChild> |Lee|: do you know what the network manager is? near the clock?
[19:28] <cdecarlo> |Lee|: have you tried ifconfig up
[19:28] <|Lee|> PriceChild: It's Ubuntu server, there is no Gnome/KDE :P
[19:29] <|Lee|> cdecarlo: No, I'll brb (I hate it when it's accrossed the hall..
[19:29] <Lamego> juannicolas, you don't need to restore files, you just need to do a plain install
[19:29] <|Lee|> cdecarlo: Device not found.
[19:30] <PriceChild> |Lee|: right ok. and you are sure that the ethernet card doesn't appear in ifconfig? lspci and put that ina  pastebin please?
[19:30] <Lamego> juannicolas, first remove your current install: sudo apt-get remove --purge postgresql*
[19:30] <arunkale> do you recommend that i install apache, etc. via the command line or synaptic? or does it not really matter?
[19:30] <|Lee|> How can I do that when it's a different computer without internet, PriceChild?..
[19:30] <ompaul> |Lee|, do ifconfig -a and see what it says does it tell you have more than one ethernet or does it seen any cards at all .. this is the first step .. when you see it has only one you type sudo  dhclient and then you work out if it gave you one
[19:30] <cdecarlo> |Lee|: what does lspci give you lspci | grep Ethernet
[19:31]  * Neo_Tech is away (Off Dulu,Istirahat...)
[19:31] <juannicolas> done, this time remove more files, *
[19:31] <|Lee|> cdecarlo: It shows an ethernet thing
[19:31] <J311YF15H> hey anyone good in wine?
[19:32] <t1n0m3n> No, but I am good with vodka
[19:32] <|Lee|> Haha t1n0m3n :P
[19:32] <Frozenball> How silly of you :p
[19:32] <J311YF15H> vodka don't rule,try moka
[19:32] <J311YF15H> (
[19:32] <t1n0m3n> Actually, I have used it...  Got wow running, not sure that qualifies as "good"
[19:32] <noodlesgc> monster is better than alcohol
[19:33] <ompaul> |Lee|, go to #ubuntu-server and try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/  for more ideas
[19:33] <juannicolas> Yes, Lamego thx
[19:33] <|Lee|> cdecarlo: Should I ifconfig -a and sudo dhclient?
[19:33] <achadwick> #join #n810
[19:33] <achadwick> Boh!
[19:33] <J311YF15H> anyone ran tiberium wars in wine?
[19:33] <juannicolas> the part I was missing was the * after the pagk name
[19:33] <|Lee|> Or ompaul?
[19:33] <ompaul> |Lee|, go to #ubuntu-server and try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/  for more ideas
[19:33] <|Lee|> ompaul: I haven't tried your idea yet, should I?
[19:33] <t1n0m3n> Not I
[19:33] <brunner> can I use rsync on shared hosting?
[19:34] <|Lee|> Fine ompaul, I'll go try it.
[19:34] <ompaul> |Lee|, do sudo dhclient but that is only a temp solution then head onto other things
[19:34] <arunkale> do you guys know any themes for ubuntu that are more polished than human?
[19:34] <chester_m> ubuntu is closing my p2p port
[19:34] <noodlesgc> arunkale art.gnome.org
[19:34] <juannicolas> what is FQDN?
[19:34] <chester_m> it's open on router
[19:34] <chester_m> anyone knows the problem?
[19:34] <cdecarlo> |Lee|: sounds like a plan
[19:34] <Fabrice__> search croatian people who speak french thanks
[19:34] <anthony> juannicolas: fully qualified domain name
[19:34] <noodlesgc> juannicolas fully qualified domain name
[19:34] <arunkale> noodlesgc: i know that site :) i just wanted your recommendations/opinions
[19:34] <juannicolas> oh.. THX!
[19:35] <|Lee|> haha ompaul It worked thanks <3
[19:35] <baka> čéčāčé ąĄčüčéčī ą║čéąŠ
[19:35] <mazaf> does any one know if basket note has a spell checking feature ?
[19:35] <anthony> brunner: you'll have to ask your host.
[19:35] <noodlesgc> arunkale try the glossy theme
[19:35] <brunner> I don't suppose anyone knows the specifics of Pair Networks?
[19:36] <Andycasss> Is there a ubuntu theme for win? I hate that fancy aero theme for vista
[19:36] <baka> ą┐ąŠą╝ąŠą│ąĖčéąĄ ąĮą░čüčéčĆąŠąĖčéčī ą║ą░čĆčéčā ATI 9600
[19:36] <brunner> hmm, for rsync the deamon only has to be running on one end, right?
[19:36] <anthony> !ru
[19:36] <ubotu> ą¤ąŠąČą░ą╗čāą╣čüčéą░ ą┐ąŠčüąĄčéąĖčéąĄ #ubuntu-ru ą┤ą╗čÅ ą┐ąŠą╗čāčćąĄąĮąĖčÅ ą┐ąŠą╝ąŠčēąĖ ąĮą░ čĆčāčüčüą║ąŠą╝ čÅąĘčŗą║ąĄ  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[19:36] <Stroganoff> Andycasss: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/27940418/ use this with classic theme
[19:37] <HymnToLife> brunner: you can even rsync without the rsync daemon
[19:37] <HymnToLife> using FTP, SSH, or whatever
[19:37] <brunner> so as long as srync is installed on the server, I can run a deamon on my backup server
[19:37] <t1n0m3n> brunner: sorry, I don't use hosted stuff
[19:37] <brunner> oh
[19:37] <brunner> HymnToLife: really?
[19:37] <HymnToLife> but yeah, it you want to use it, it only needs to be running one one end
[19:37] <Fabrice__> bye
[19:37] <brunner> oh
[19:38] <levander`> arunkale: I love SolidSlate Modified, Buuf icons from deviant art, and "Ubuntu Dark Pack" for wallpaper.  First time I've every had a desktop I really like the way it looked.
[19:38] <brunner> so I do need a dreamon on one end, yes?
[19:38] <HymnToLife> some kind of daemon, yes
[19:38] <HymnToLife> but not necessarily the rsync one
[19:38] <Hellow> Bonsoir tout le monde
[19:38] <HymnToLife> !fr [ Hellow
[19:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fr [ hellow - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:38] <arunkale> levander`: nice, thanks for sharing.. i'll just see what that looks like
[19:38] <HymnToLife> !fr | Hellow
[19:38] <ubotu> Hellow: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[19:39] <levander> arunkale: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/SolidSlate+Modified?content=44963
[19:40] <levander> arunkale: That's not a great pic.  Solid Slate Modified is basically all the stuff on the borders of the window.  Like the close, minimize, maximize buttons.
[19:40] <djmitche> ISTM a default Ubuntu 6.10 install has both star and gnu tar installed, but that /bin/gnutar is not gnutar, it's star.  Is this a bug or a feature?
[19:40] <djmitche> (or am I totally off base)
[19:40] <||Lee|> Yay
[19:40] <||Lee|> Now I need some browser :x
[19:40] <arunkale> levander: i'm guessing it's an emerald theme?
[19:40] <levander> djmitche: That'd be a bug, but unless 6.10 is LTS, nobody's gonna care.
[19:41] <djmitche> LTS?
[19:41] <levander> arunkale: Yeah, I never bothered using the compiz stuff till I found that theme.
[19:41] <||Lee|> Long term support, djmitche .
[19:41] <djmitche> ah, ok, tx
[19:41] <arunkale> levander: compiz doesn't really work on my computer
[19:41] <levander> arunkale: That's some african skins, one of which is elephant, that I use as a GDM greeter.  arunkale I'll PM you the themes I use.
[19:41] <levander> arunkale: That sux.
[19:41] <cdecarlo> |Lee|: do you have another workstation that you can ssh into the server with
[19:41] <sachael> does anyone know this program pack - contains programs called "dates", "sync", tasks"?
[19:42] <anthony> sachael: can you be more specific?
[19:42] <tyler_d> my vpn connection to pptp gives me the error upon connection: Could not start the VPN connection 'WORK' due to a connection error.
[19:42] <tyler_d> VPN Connection failed
[19:42] <arunkale> levander: yup.. i have a new nvidia graphics card, but it doesn't work properly, so yeah
[19:42] <cdecarlo> |Lee|: then you can do all the nice pretty things on the workstation and the command line stuff through the ssh'd session
[19:42] <arunkale> sucks
[19:42] <levander> arunkale: Basically, for window themes, I like all the "slate" variants.  Slate is basically a rip off of the Windows border themes, but I tell you, I hate Microsoft, but border themes is the one thing they did that I really like.
[19:42] <levander> arunkale: Did you get the nvidia driver installed okay?
[19:43] <sachael> anthony, gtk programs called "dates", "tasks", "sync" from a company, i think they are not in the repos, the company that makes them has a green hand as a logo
[19:43] <|Lee|> cdecarlo: I'm not sure, if it's plugged in to my dads wired internet, and I'm on wireless, can I ssh into it?
[19:43] <giggsey> How can I setup dual monitors on my Hardy?
[19:43] <anthony> !hardy | giggsey
[19:43] <ubotu> giggsey: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:43] <giggsey> Cheers
[19:43] <levander> arunkale: There are many slate variants that aren't emerald, but I didn't like any of those as much.  But, I did like them.
[19:43] <pit_> hello
[19:44] <arunkale> levander: yup, the driver has installed properly, but i can't get compiz to work well.. it's not a huge deal, but yeah, it's a little irritating
[19:44] <pit_> can eanyone could help me with wireless netwotrk
[19:44] <crdlb> sachael: OpenedHand
[19:44] <levander> arunkale: Just search on art.gnome.org for slate, and you'll find a bunch of them.
[19:44] <arunkale> great
[19:44] <levander> arunkale: What's wrong with compiz on your box?  The nvidia driver should be the only hardware specific thing.
[19:44] <sachael> crdlb, that's it! thank you.
[19:44] <pit_> I'm trying to crate an AP but my laptop can't see any network I'm trying to crate within UBUNTU
[19:45] <arunkale> levander: black screens, etc. the usual problems
[19:45] <levander> pit_: Are you trying to connect the laptop wirelessly?
[19:45] <|Lee|> cdecarlo: You here?
[19:45] <cdecarlo> |Lee|: sure, you can
[19:45] <arunkale> i have an amd processor, if that makes a difference
[19:45] <pit_> i would like to ...
[19:45] <pit_> UBUJNTU has internet by wire
[19:45] <levander> arunkale: I've never heard of those...  Maybe just cause I never had them, I never had to google for it.  Maybe it'll work better for you in Hardy??
[19:45] <cdecarlo> install a ssh server on the server an ssh client on the workstation
[19:46] <levander> arunkale: AMD shouldn't make a difference.
[19:46] <pit_> lavander: and I want to create the AP
[19:46] <arunkale> levander:  yeah, maybe it will :)
[19:46] <|Lee|> Damn it cdecarlo, I'd have to stop my gnome installation in the middle, but if I can ssh into it .. :D
[19:46] <cdecarlo> |Lee|: are the machines on the same local network
[19:46] <cvd-pr> There a away to make ubuntu shutdown after downloading and installing the updates?
[19:46] <cdecarlo> are you building X?
[19:47] <levander> pit_: I don't even know what an AP is that you would create inside of Ubuntu.  I've always just connected to the wireless router, which is it's own independent piece of hardware.
[19:47] <levander> pit_: You have a wireless router?
[19:47] <anthony> cvd-pr: on a command line there is, but I'm not sure if there's a GUI method yet.
[19:47] <Stroganoff> anthony: gshutdown
[19:47] <Ravenkin> Can someone help me?  Installed Hardy, have dual monitors and while updating went to so application that looked like it worked dual monitors, rebooted my computer and now the resoluations are completely messed up and I can't open screen resolution in system.
[19:47] <|Lee|> cdecarlo: I sudo apt-get installing kde now, and it has ssh installed and running .. I can ssh into it from there, but not from workstation.
[19:48] <anthony> Stroganoff: Nice.
[19:48] <JS__> i have gnome "nm-applet" question -- anyone can help?
[19:48] <pit_> lavander: no I do not have wireless router, I'm trying to create one with UBUNTU :)
[19:48] <anthony> !hardy | Ravenkin
[19:48] <ubotu> Ravenkin: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:48] <linkinxp> hey i wonder whats the max amount of ram supported by Ubuntu?
[19:49] <SisyphusINC> does anyone know how to record video on linux with a logitech quickcam pro?
[19:49] <cdecarlo> |Lee|:  you have an ssh server running on the server?
[19:49] <anthony> linkinxp: That's limited by your processor architecture, not OS.
[19:49] <levander> arunkale: You getting these PM's?
[19:49] <|Lee|> cdecarlo: Nevermind, got it, had to ssh 192.168.1.105 instead of localhost, because I'm on .103 instead of .105
[19:49] <SisyphusINC> its a webcam
[19:49] <cvd-pr> x64 4gb ++
[19:49] <levander> arunkale: Here are the GDM themese I use: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Africa+GDM+Themes?content=67562
[19:49] <linkinxp> anthony:  mmmm Pentium Dual core ? 4 gb?
[19:50] <JS__> i accidently double-clicked the "nm-applet" file and now have a duplicate in my system tray.  anyone know how to remove one of the two?
[19:50] <Frozenball> Is Ubuntu 8.04 stable enough?
[19:50] <Frozenball> I'm too lazy to wait 10 more days
[19:50] <linkinxp> Frozenball:  yes
[19:50] <levander> arunkale: You getting these PM's?
[19:50] <linkinxp> for me yes
[19:50] <anthony> linkinxp: If it's 32-bit, yes.  64 should be "more than you need"  :P
[19:50] <anthony> !hardy | Frozenball
[19:50] <ubotu> Frozenball: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[19:50] <linkinxp> anthony:  32 :)
[19:51] <backgen> hey does anyone have any experience with the wallpaper changer "drapes"?
[19:51] <backgen> I can't seem to get it to add pictures that i want it to use as my wallpapers
[19:52] <JS__> gnome question
[19:52] <JS__> nm-applet question
[19:52] <JS__> can anyone help?
[19:52] <JS__> or point me to another conference
[19:52] <levander> JS__: just ask
[19:53] <JS__> ok. tnx.  i accidently double-clicked on the "nm-applet" file and added a duplicate applet to my sys tray.  can you suggest how i remove one of the two?
[19:53] <backgen> anyone know how i can get the applications "drapes" to accept my image files?
[19:53] <levander> JS__: have you tried right clicking on one of them and seeing if there's a delete option?
[19:54] <JS__> yes. no delete
[19:54] <JS__> or remove
[19:54] <dudeeee34> hello
[19:54] <dudeeee34> i need help setting up my usb camera
[19:54] <SiftinDotCom> Hello, I am migrating to ubuntu, is there any equivalent of debootstrap on ubuntu?
[19:54] <levander> JS__: what is the nm-applet?
[19:54] <dudeeee34> the software was originaly for windows but i wana see if it works on linux
[19:55] <JS__> it is the gnome network software
[19:55] <JS__> network manager
[19:55] <Slart> JS__: have you tried killing the applet using kill?
[19:55] <h4wk> !nvidia
[19:55] <JS__> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[19:55] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:55] <levander> JS__: yeah, but Slart said
[19:55] <Slart> JS__: there's bound to be two applet processes
[19:55]  * SiftinDotCom uses chroot very frequently and would like to find out how easy it is to setup ubuntu in chroot
[19:55] <JS__> not sure what to do
[19:55] <h4wk> !resolution
[19:55] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type ┬½ sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart ┬╗ in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:56] <dudeeee34> can anyone help me?
[19:56] <dudeeee34> set up my usb camera
[19:56] <Slart>  JS__ : try running this in a terminal, "ps -A | grep -i nm"
[19:56] <JS__> ok. what will this do?
[19:56] <Slart> JS__: you'll hopefully see two lines, or more, with the process id's in the first column
[19:56]  * SiftinDotCom uses chroot very frequently and would like to find out how easy it is to setup ubuntu in chroot
[19:56] <Slart> JS__: ps lists running processes
[19:56] <arunkale> do i need to install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql to use php with mysql
[19:56] <unicum> anyone here who's using lilo?
[19:57] <abhinay> dudeeee34, the camera software automatically gets opened when you connect your camera through USB
[19:57] <Slart> JS__: grep filters them.. only showing lines containing "nm"
[19:57] <abhinay> dudeeee34, doesn't it ?
[19:57] <dudeeee34> no
[19:57] <dudeeee34> the camera was desinged for windows
[19:57] <dudeeee34> idk if it will work here
[19:57] <unicum> i just did a dist-upgrade, but for some reason i'm being booted into the old dist. why?
[19:57] <abhinay> dudeeee34, which camera model you are using ?
[19:57] <dudeeee34> dynex
[19:57] <JS__> should it take a minute to finish process?
[19:57]  * SiftinDotCom uses chroot very frequently and would like to find out how easy it is to setup ubuntu in chroot
[19:57] <Stroganoff> SiftinDotCom: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/hppa/linux-upgrade.html
[19:57] <d1gital> wierd problem guys:  my panel won't load up unless i switch to another vt and killall gnome-panel   What's the matter?
[19:58] <Slart> JS__: no, it should return instantly
[19:58] <SiftinDotCom> thanks Stroganoff
[19:58] <Slart> JS__: no typos?.. you didn't type the " I hope
[19:59] <JS__> ok. i have two columns of info
[19:59] <JS__> line one:
[19:59] <Slart> JS__: don't paste it here
[19:59] <SiftinDotCom> looks like it has debian's utility intact even with same name:debootstrap. gr8
[19:59] <dudeeee34> hello?
[19:59] <JS__> ok
[19:59] <ssn> hi
[19:59] <dudeeee34> sorry
[19:59] <dudeeee34> my internet disconnected
[19:59] <ssn> i got problems with ubuntu debootstrap
[20:00] <Slart> JS__: the first column is numbers.. right? that's the process id, then there might be a ? , then there's total running time.. then there's the name of th eprocess
[20:00] <JS__> yes
[20:00] <ssn> W: Failure trying to run: chroot /mnt/ubuntu mount -t proc proc /proc
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[20:00] <dudeeee34> can anyone help me with my usb camera?
[20:00] <Slart> JS__: do you have two processes named nm-applet?
[20:00] <JS__> yes
[20:00] <dudeeee34> im trying to set up a dynex usb camera
[20:00] <SiftinDotCom> dudeeee34, you need to have either sources of that driver to recompile on your ubuntu box or you will need to get the rpm from your camera manufacturere
[20:00] <ssn> chroot -t doesnt work with the modern knoppix version
[20:00] <dudeeee34> i have the cd for it
[20:00] <backgen> hey guys, i'm trying to choose a port for Azureus...which port is usually good for this sort of thing?
[20:00] <dudeeee34> i plug it in it turns on
[20:00] <Slart> JS__: ok.. type kill 12345 .. but change 12345 to the process id of one of the nm-applets
[20:00] <dudeeee34> i just want a program for it
[20:01] <JS__> first number is 5132; second is 5154
[20:01] <SiftinDotCom> dudeeee34, that program is called driver
[20:01] <dudeeee34> a program that allows me to use usb recording
[20:01] <Slart> JS__: then type kill 5132
[20:01] <Slart> JS__: it doesn't really matter which one you kill
[20:01] <dudeeee34> ah k then
[20:01] <JS__> ok. i will type kill 5132
[20:01] <Slart> JS__: and then press enter.. did the tray icon go away?
[20:01] <backgen> hey can anyone give me an Incoming TCP Listen Port that is usually Open? I'm configuring my Bit-Torrent
[20:01] <JS__> it worked!
[20:01] <SiftinDotCom> dudeeee34, please cal ur camera manufacturer to find out linux driver/application support
[20:02] <Slart> backgen: there are no ports that are "usually" open.. if there is, they are probably already being used
[20:02] <JS__> now, do you think it will last or will i need to do this again with each restart?
[20:02] <Slart> JS__: depends on why there was two applets in the first place
[20:02] <backgen> Slart: well then what should i do?
[20:02] <Slart> backgen: pick one at random and then make sure it's open
[20:03] <d1gital> weird problem guys:  my panel won't load up unless i switch to another vt and killall gnome-panel   What's the matter?
[20:03] <JS__> ok.  thank you both for your help!! bye.
[20:03] <backgen> Slart: ah ok...well then whats a good random port number?
[20:03] <Slart> JS__: you might have run the applet twice.. you might be starting it twice when you login.. it's hard to tell which one it is
[20:03] <graft> hi, what are my options for editing an EPS file?
[20:03] <bobgill> How do I start Ubuntu with no X server ? Just CLI login
[20:03] <JS__> ok
[20:03] <Slart> backgen: 12345... very random.. I used many dices
[20:03] <graft> actually just for cropping/resizing an EPS file
[20:04] <backgen> Slart: lol
[20:04] <backgen> lol nope it says it's closed
[20:04] <d1gital> open it
[20:04] <Slart> backgen: then open it..
[20:04] <backgen> how do i open it?
[20:04] <d1gital> backgen are you behind a router
[20:04] <Espionage> can anyone help me pick some broken packages? I've found them using synaptic
[20:05] <graft> bobgill: you could define a new runlevel
[20:05] <zrn> Hi. I'm trying to debug an epiphany extension, can anybody point me in the right direction?
[20:05] <backgen> i'm not sure...probably...i'm connecting via rez connection in my univeristy
[20:05] <d1gital> "no im in front of it" lol
[20:05] <d1gital> then yes you are and no you cant reconfigure their router...
[20:05] <arunkale> do i need to install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql to use php with mysql
[20:05] <backgen> shoot...so how do i find an open port?
[20:05] <gregory> zrn: does it crash?
[20:05] <bobgill> graft: what do you mean? Or could I just disable GDM and that would boot into a text login ?
[20:05] <zrn> nop
[20:05] <zrn> it just doesnt work
[20:06] <backgen> i mean this should work since Azureus works fine on my Windows
[20:06] <Slart> backgen: well.. the night is young.. keep trying.. only 65535 to go =)
[20:06] <pgentoo_> Hi, I have a supermicro board with a AIC9410 SAS/SATA controller onboard.  I'm unable to get this working (with SATA drives) on my Gentoo Xen system currently.  I'm wondering what the newest Xen Dom0 capable kernel ubuntu currently provides, and if the libsas module have working SATA support now in that version.  If so i may wnat to move my Dom0 over to ubuntu.
[20:06] <zrn> and im trying to find the offending function
[20:06] <nael> Hi would anybody be able to help me with getting screen resolution right on a HP laptop with an other external monitor?
[20:06] <graft> bobgill: how permanent do you want this situation to be? is this just a one-off thing?
[20:06] <JyZyXEL> why can't i read the files on my CD
[20:06] <JyZyXEL> i can only list them
[20:06] <JyZyXEL> but when i try read them they are all empty
[20:06] <Slart> JyZyXEL: you forgot to put it in the drive.. it's still on the bedroom floor
[20:06] <JyZyXEL> nuh uh
[20:06] <JyZyXEL> its on the drive and mounted
[20:06] <Slart> JyZyXEL: bad burn?
[20:06] <d1gital> backgen: thing is, there might be open ports, but they have to be forwarded to your computer, so basically without being a 1337 h4x0r and reconfiguring the school router, it aint happening
[20:06] <JyZyXEL> no it worked last time
[20:07] <JyZyXEL> its a prefectly good burn
[20:07] <nael> maybe he has the permisions wrong
[20:07] <graft> bobgill: if so, you can just, say, write 'exit 0' as the first line of /etc/init.d/gdm
[20:07] <Slart> JyZyXEL: bad cd drive?
[20:07] <backgen> darnit
[20:07] <bobgill> graft: well actually i want to run fsck on my root, that's the goal. just realized no X server isn't going to do it
[20:07] <JyZyXEL> no it worked
[20:07] <JyZyXEL> permissions are wrong?
[20:07] <JyZyXEL> it could be that
[20:07] <JyZyXEL> dr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 2007-05-30 16:51
[20:07] <graft> bobgill: oh ah.. there's a way to reboot to get it to do that, hold on
[20:07] <JyZyXEL> its wrong?
[20:07] <Slart> hmm.. is file size restricted by permissions?
[20:07] <graft> bobgill: shutdown -F
[20:08] <Slart> JyZyXEL: no error messages in dmesg or syslog?
[20:08] <d1gital> weird problem guys:  my panel won't load up unless i switch to another vt and killall gnome-panel   What's the matter?
[20:08] <bobgill> graft: ahh, thanks!
[20:08] <graft> bobgill: np
[20:08] <JyZyXEL> Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 1442615
[20:08] <graft> anyone help me out? I want to crop an .eps file down a bit
[20:08] <JyZyXEL> attempt to access beyond end of device
[20:08] <JyZyXEL> lol
[20:08] <JyZyXEL> wtf
[20:08] <Slart> JyZyXEL: a scratch on the cd?
[20:08] <Slart> JyZyXEL: tried remounting it?
[20:09] <JyZyXEL> tried countless times
[20:09] <JyZyXEL> now its stuck
[20:10] <JyZyXEL> lsof | grep cdrom
[20:10] <JyZyXEL> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[20:10] <JyZyXEL>       Output information may be incomplete.
[20:10] <JyZyXEL> that is just plain wrong
[20:10] <JyZyXEL> lsof works
[20:10] <JyZyXEL> when i pipe it to grep it doesn't
[20:10] <JyZyXEL> or something
[20:10] <linkinxp> where you install fonts/
[20:10] <linkinxp> ?
[20:11] <JyZyXEL> actually no
[20:11] <JyZyXEL> thats the sterr prolly
[20:11] <JyZyXEL> well i guess the disc is broken then
[20:12] <ay^> why does it say #ubuntu-unregged next to #ubuntu when I'm here? :]
[20:12] <d1gital> weird problem guys:  my panel won't load up unless i switch to another vt and killall gnome-panel   What's the matter?  it also doesnt load nm-applet..
[20:12] <ay^> I just did the whole nickserv-registering process
[20:12] <backslash> Is there a god tutorial about configuring apache and ubuntu to have for each user a subdomain, web-data in the home folder, maybe with bash scripts ? With all permissions and so on... Would be awesome!
[20:14] <sinbox> what is the command to find out what application might be using my soundcard
[20:14] <arno-t> hi all. my gdmgreetre resoltuion is wrong, but the Xres is OK. Any idea how to adjust that?
[20:14] <arno-t> gdmgreeter :)
[20:14] <pauldoo> in #gobuntu
[20:15] <graft> backslash: i don't think apache can do that by default... you could set up virtual hosts on a per-user basis, or auto-gen config files, but i dunno if it will just do it automagically
[20:16] <graft> backslash: but i could be wrong, you should read here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_userdir.html#userdir
[20:16] <FAJALOU> i have an intellimouse 3.0a, and i have followed the guide to make it work on http://epologetics.org/ubuntuhowto.php#intellimouse  but my two side buttons still don't seem to work
[20:16] <graft> backslash: in fact i thinki am wrong and you can just do UserDir http://*.foo.com/
[20:17] <backslash> graft: Okay, im gonna have a look at that... But the whole folder permissions system, and that every user has his data with his permissions in his home folder?
[20:17] <graft> backslash: oh wait, but that'll just redirect.... hrm.
[20:17] <d1gital> weird problem guys:  my panel won't load up unless i switch to another vt and killall gnome-panel   What's the matter?
[20:17] <backslash> Just so I could create users with their own filders
[20:17] <graft> backslash: well, apache does that by default, in ~/public_html
[20:17] <FAJALOU> any thoughts
[20:18] <graft> backslash: which you can access with like http://foo.com/~backslash
[20:18] <backslash> Yea.. Didn't know that, which is why im looking for an apache tutorial or something
[20:18] <backslash> yes
[20:18] <Itaku> my ubuntu says /dev/dsp is busy(the sound driver) i get this error alot how do i fix it?
[20:18] <graft> backslash: JFGI
[20:18] <FAJALOU> i have an intellimouse 3.0a, and i have followed the guide to make it work on http://epologetics.org/ubuntuhowto.php#intellimouse  but my two side buttons still don't seem to work
[20:18] <graft> Itaku: stop running a sound server, would be my guess
[20:18] <graft> Itaku: also why are you using /dev/dsp?
[20:19] <backslash> graft: okay...
[20:19] <JyZyXEL> graphical tool for displaying information about your computer?
[20:19] <Itaku> graft: i never set anything
[20:19] <arunkale> i just installed phpmyadmin, but i have no idea where it got installed
[20:19] <Itaku> graft: how do i stop using the sound server?
[20:19] <FAJALOU> i have an intellimouse 3.0a, and i have followed the guide to make it work on http://epologetics.org/ubuntuhowto.php#intellimouse  but my two side buttons still don't seem to work
[20:19] <arunkale> i can't access it at http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[20:20] <graft> Itaku: are you using gnome?
[20:20] <Itaku> yeah^^
[20:21] <graft> Itaku: in that case i'm not sure... i guess you need to configure your sound system to use ALSA instead of OSS
[20:21] <Ar-Pharazon> Hi, I need to send files from kubuntu to winxp over ethernet. Can anyone help?
[20:21] <ay^> Ar-Pharazon: ftp?
[20:21] <blinkiz> Am having problem burning a dvd with Brasero. It says I don't have space for the image on the DVD. The dvd needs 4028MB. The disk is on 4.7GB. What todo?
[20:21] <Itaku> i have nvidia
[20:21] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: Winscp3
[20:21] <Itaku> and im using ALSA
[20:22] <Ar-Pharazon> ay^: Ftp?
[20:22] <graft> Itaku: nvidia meaning your video card? If you're using ALSA you shouldn't be getting reports about /dev/dsp
[20:22] <ay^> Ar-Pharazon: yeah, set up a FTP-server on the XP-can and send your files to it
[20:22] <LegionX> blinkiz: normal DVD-R only have 4.25G space
[20:22] <LegionX> ~4700MB
[20:22] <Itaku> graft: well thats what i assume cuz VMWare is yelling at me about that
[20:22] <arunkale> anyone?
[20:22] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: just get winscp and use that to connect to ubuntu... much easier than setting up an FTP server on the windows side
[20:23] <blinkiz> LegionX, Okay, lets say its on 4.25. Why can't i burn the image?
[20:23] <Ar-Pharazon> ay^: How do I set it up and how do I send them afterwards?
[20:23] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: What's winscp?
[20:23] <ay^> Ar-Pharazon: perhaps the winscp-idea is easier
[20:23] <LegionX> blinkiz: are you just burning the iso on a data-dvd or are you burning it as an image?
[20:23] <ay^> but if you still wish to know I could help setting one up
[20:23] <_Mick> can anyone help with a netinstall?
[20:23] <Itaku> graft: my sound doesnt work for some reason though you know how to fix it?
[20:24] <blinkiz> LegionX, Like an image. Pressing the big image button i basero
[20:24] <FAJALOU> i have an intellimouse 3.0a, and i have followed the guide to make it work on http://epologetics.org/ubuntuhowto.php#intellimouse  but my two side buttons still don't seem to work
[20:24] <Ar-Pharazon> ay^: Well, I do have to make it to a psychology experiment tomorrow morning, it won't take very long will it?
[20:24] <neil_> Hi could somebody please help me get screen resolution right on a HP laptop with an external monitor?
[20:24] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: it's a free SCP client for windows... it lets you copy files from any machine you can connect to via SSH (i.e., an ubuntu machine)
[20:24] <ay^> well it shouldn't take too long
[20:24] <_Mick> i'm getting bad archive mirror all the time
[20:24] <ay^> but still winscp is easier
[20:24] <ganastasiou_> has anyone install netgear ma311 with hostap drivers?
[20:24] <ay^> I think
[20:24] <ompaul> !buttons | FAJALOU (this one should work better)
[20:24] <ubotu> FAJALOU (this one should work better): Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[20:24] <LegionX> blinkiz: does it recognize the DVD-R with the correct ammount of free space?
[20:24] <ay^> or.. its basically the same thing
[20:25] <ay^> Ar-Pharazon: But google winscp and install
[20:25] <FAJALOU> ompaul thanks
[20:25] <graft> Itaku: what exactly is going on? you're running vmware?
[20:25] <iuri> hi there, my wireless netowking is not working
[20:25] <iuri> how do i set it up?
[20:25] <Itaku> graft: it didnt work before i set up vmware
[20:25] <Itaku> graft: it happens alot
[20:25] <graft> Itaku: with what application?
[20:25] <Itaku> graft: just no sound comes out when i play a music
[20:25] <Itaku> all
[20:25] <Itaku> everyone
[20:25] <d1gital> weird problem guys:  my panel won't load up unless i switch to another vt and killall gnome-panel   What's the matter?
[20:26] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Ok, so what do I do after installing winscp?
[20:26] <Itaku> and ive done alsamixer and all
[20:26] <ganastasiou_> has anyone install netgear ma311 with hostap drivers?
[20:26] <blinkiz> LegionX, Brasero says 4.4 GB free on DVD disc
[20:26] <iuri> how to install my wireless network on ubuntu?
[20:26] <ay^> Ar-Pharazon: you type scp username@Xpcans-adress.here
[20:26] <ay^> and it connects
[20:26] <Itaku> woah wait nvm sound works
[20:26] <_Mick> any way to check if network is working from the installer?
[20:27] <natalisushka> Hi people, how can I know from command line for how long my computer was on?
[20:27] <ay^> natalisushka: uptime
[20:27] <LegionX> blinkiz: well.. i guess it just can't count then. haven't really met the same situation
[20:27] <Starnestommy> natalisushka: uptime
[20:27] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: run winscp from your windows machine, and use it to connect to your ubuntu machine
 Thanks :) Is there another gui way?
[20:27] <zishan> hi everyone, anyone know where to learn all the linux commands???
[20:27] <ay^> zishan: google.com
[20:27] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: ok let me try that
[20:27] <daekdroom> it's impossible to learn all em.
[20:27] <Itaku> zishan: try command help
[20:27] <blinkiz> LegionX, Okay, another solution to burn dvd image maybe? It was a console tool named mkisofs something...
[20:27] <neil_> http://www.linux-tutorial.info/modules.php?name=Your_Account
[20:28] <graft> blinkiz: k3b?
[20:28] <VSpike> I have a bunch of mail files in mime format in my spool.  How can I use the command line to extract the attachments?
[20:28] <zishan> i am using windows xp right now, but want to change to ubuntu
[20:29] <neil_> Hi could somebody please help me get screen resolution right on a HP laptop with an external monitor?
[20:29] <ay^> zishan: there is more to linux and ubuntu than commands at this time
[20:29] <WildChild7> hello guys. How can I set up my linux so the only way user can login is through command line like: startx ?
[20:29] <LegionX> blinkiz: i think that just makes the iso.. not sure if it burns too
[20:29] <zishan> ok
[20:29] <ay^> zishan: even tho commandline computing is surely very effective
[20:29] <knoppix_> hola
[20:29] <ay^> zishan: but to get things up'n'running you shouldn├żt need to know all commands
[20:29] <knoppix_> alguien habla espa├▒ol
[20:29] <knoppix_> hi
[20:29] <ompaul> !es | knoppix_
[20:29] <ay^> zishan: you could either google or ask in here as you play along with the OS
[20:29] <ubotu> knoppix_: Aqu├Ł solamente hablamos ingl├®s. Para Espa├▒ol, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - all├Ł obtendr├Ī m├Īs ayuda.
[20:29] <graft> WildChild7: don't run a desktop manager like gdm
[20:30] <WildChild7> graft: how can I do that ?
[20:30] <graft> WildChild7: apt-get remove gdm, maybe. though that might try to uninstall all of gnome
[20:30] <arunkale> how do i uninstall an app completely? i want to uninstall phpmyadmin properly and re-install it. apparently apt-get remove wasn't good enough
[20:30] <zishan> ok... do you know if all the windows programs work in ubuntu
[20:30] <Starnestommy> arunkale: apt-get remove --purge packagename
[20:30] <zishan> like visual studio 2008
[20:30] <Ubuntu--Newbie> How can I increase the number of Virtual Desktop? Current I have 2...But I have seen people using 4
[20:30] <VSpike> WildChild7: try update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[20:30] <arunkale> Starnestommy: thanks
[20:30] <graft> zishan: are you for real? or is this just some lame trolling?
[20:30] <Slart> zishan: they don't.. not even close
[20:30] <lopin> Hey, guys...  I just came back to my computer, and it said that someone was trying to use VNC to view my desktop?  Could I be in trouble?
[20:31] <ay^> zishan: well most of them dont, but there are very many good/better programs in linux doing the same/almost the same thing
[20:31] <WildChild7> VSpike: graft, i can't uninstall all gnome apps :D
[20:31] <blinkiz> LegionX, growisofs was the command I was looking for
[20:31] <ay^> zishan: which app are you thinking of?
[20:31] <d1gital> zishan: i doubt VS works in nix.. it uses a load of windows libraries though you could give wine a try...
[20:31] <graft> WildChild7: does apt-get remove gdm try to uninstall all of gnome?
[20:31] <LegionX> blinkiz: yeah, i just figured that too :)
[20:31] <VSpike> WildChild7: my command just removes gdm form the startup programs
[20:31] <zishan> so, it is possible to program c#.net in ubuntu?
[20:31] <neil_> Ubuntu--Newbie, just rigt click on the desktop switcher and change the setting from propertys
[20:31] <d1gital> you can use Mono
[20:31] <VSpike> WildChild7: it doesn't remove it from the system
[20:31] <Slart> zishan: there's always mono
[20:31] <Slart> !mono
[20:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:32] <zishan> what is mono?
[20:32] <VSpike> zishan: you can run VS in a virtual machine if you need to ... i do.
[20:32] <Ubuntu--Newbie> Thanks! that was easy
[20:32] <graft> WildChild7: yeah VSpike's way is better
[20:32] <boolka> How come when I connect my laptop to lcd monitor via VGA cable it works. But when I use a VGA to RCA/svideo converter cable, it dont work? Do i have to modify the x.org file?
[20:32] <Slart> zishan: linux implementation of .net, afaik
[20:32] <zishan> ok, thank you very much
[20:32] <neil_> Ubuntu--Newbie, no problem
[20:32] <Ubuntu--Newbie> VSpike - how much ram did you dedicate to your VM?
[20:33] <Ubuntu--Newbie> VSpike - VS needs a lot of ram i suppose
[20:33] <d1gital> weird problem guys:  my panel won't load up unless i switch to another vt and killall gnome-panel   What's the matter?
[20:33] <mrkeishii> how do i get Envyng core for Gutsy?
[20:33] <Slart> mrkeishii: envyng? what is that?
[20:33] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Ok, so I installed winscp ut what's the hostname supposed to be?
[20:33] <VSpike> Ubuntu--Newbie: base RAM is set at 768MB (guest is XP) and it seems pretty snappy
[20:33] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: you tell me dude... it's your machine
[20:33] <_Lee_> For some reason, Ubuntu says it can't read from the CD, is there a cause for this?
[20:33] <mrkeishii> some driver
[20:33] <mrkeishii> thing
[20:33] <mrkeishii> I need this program to use on Wine
[20:33] <Ubuntu--Newbie> VSPike - are you using VirtualBox?
[20:34] <Slart> mrkeishii: same thing as envy? then don't.. try !envy
[20:34] <VSpike> Ubuntu--Newbie: yeah
[20:34] <arunkale> got it to work, phpmyadmin works fine now :)
[20:34] <gabrieltomate> ’╗┐I have a problem with my Broadcom wireless when upgrade the kernel 2.6.24-12 to 2.6.24-16. (BROADCOM wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)), Anybody could save me?
[20:34] <zishan> anyone know where to download the full version of ubuntu with all the updates (dvd), i only find the cd in www.ubuntu.com
[20:34] <mrkeishii> okay
[20:34] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: where is your buntu machine located? on the same LAN?
[20:34] <zishan> ?
[20:34] <mrkeishii> how do i get envy
[20:34] <Slart> !envy
[20:34] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See ┬½ /msg ubotu binarydriver ┬╗
[20:34] <mrkeishii> how do i get envy
[20:34] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: I don't have a LAN. Just a crossover cat5.
[20:34] <ay^> you marry a good looking girl
[20:34] <Slart> mrkeishii: you do not need it.. we do not support it
[20:34] <ay^> I did..
[20:34] <Starnestommy> mrkeishii: trust me, you don't want to use envy
[20:34] <arunkale> brb
[20:34] <mrkeishii> okay
[20:34] <mrkeishii> so how do i play games on wine?
[20:35] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: erm... well do you know how to set a static IP address?
[20:35] <zishan> anyone know where to get the dvd version of ubuntu?? i only see the cd version
[20:35] <Slart> mrkeishii: you install wine.. and a graphics driver with 3d acceleration
[20:35] <mrkeishii> okay
[20:35] <Ubuntu--Newbie> mrkeishii - http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/wine
[20:35] <Stroganoff> mrkeishii: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[20:35] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: I think it's already static for my winxp pc.
[20:35] <Slart> mrkeishii: wine is installed using synaptic.. drivers can be installed using restricted drivers manager
[20:35] <gabrieltomate> ’╗┐I have a problem with my Broadcom wireless when upgrade the kernel 2.6.24-12 to 2.6.24-16. (BROADCOM wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)), Anybody could save me? Work on 2.6.24-12 but dont on 2.6.24-16...
[20:35] <zishan> ?
[20:35] <mrkeishii> okay
[20:35] <shelmar> !e
[20:35] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[20:35] <mrkeishii> thanks
[20:36] <shelmar> !es
[20:36] <ubotu> Aqu├Ł solamente hablamos ingl├®s. Para Espa├▒ol, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - all├Ł obtendr├Ī m├Īs ayuda.
[20:36] <zishan> anyone know where to download the full version of ubuntu with all the updates (dvd), i only find the cd in www.ubuntu.com
[20:36] <Slart> mrkeishii: it's on the ubuntu site.. but it's kind of out-of-the-way.. do you want the torrent?
[20:36] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: what exactly is that crossover cable doing?
[20:36] <rockstar_> Can anyone suggest a way to install firefox 2 extensions in firefox 3 beta (packaged with hardy)?
[20:36] <daire> upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 changed the preferences menu 'desktop effects' too _______________
[20:36] <Lamego> zishan, http://nginyang.uvt.nl/
[20:36] <daire> fill in the blanks please
[20:37] <mrkeishii> i already got the program
[20:37] <mrkeishii> yesterday
[20:37] <daire> i'm trying to bring up cube
[20:37] <zishan> ok thnks everyone
[20:37] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: What do you mean? Nothing, currently. I'd like it to carry my stuff from my laptop to the pc.
[20:37] <Lamego> !scm | daire
[20:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:37] <Ubuntu--Newbie> yes I want to do that too....My Google Toolbar doesn't work in Firefox 3
[20:37] <daire> lamego: ty
[20:37] <Starnestommy> daire: look in system > preferences > appearance
[20:37] <menakcman> can I connect to a machine running Vista remotely ?
[20:37] <daire> ty
[20:37] <menakcman> RDP ??
[20:37] <Lamego> sorry, i dont remember the factoid
[20:37] <mitk0k> Hi guys, can anyone tell me how to play DVD movie in VOB format and load subtitles ?
[20:37] <Lamego> menakcman, yes, using the rdp client
[20:38] <daire> checked there already Starnestommy
[20:38] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: okay... so neither your laptop nor your PC has any network connection right now?
[20:38] <daire> !scm
[20:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:38] <Ubuntu--Newbie> I am looking for a Cisco VPN client for Ubuntu anyone knows where can I get one
[20:38] <kakoonia> !lmms
[20:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lmms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:38] <Slart> zishan: here are the dvd's http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors bottom of page
[20:38] <zishan> ok thanks everyone
[20:38] <gregory> !DVD > mitk0k
[20:38] <ay^> np
[20:38] <peterpot> I manually edited the touchpad section of my xorg.conf, restarted x server, and now ubuntu can't detect my screen and I have crappy resolution...
[20:38] <daire> lamego: ubotu doesn't know about scm
[20:38] <zishan> i am definately trashing windows xp and installing ubuntu
[20:39] <zishan> i hate win xp
[20:39] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Sort of. The laptop was dual boot, the other OS is vista. I used to be able to share files between vista and xp, but I can't boot into vista anymore.
[20:39] <menakcman> @Lamego so what all do I need to give ?
[20:39] <Lamego> daire, I dont remember the name, it's a compiz config manager
[20:39] <Ubuntu--Newbie> I am looking for a Cisco VPN client for Ubuntu anyone knows where can I get one
[20:39] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: okay... so presumably your laptop has a wireless connection
[20:39] <mitk0k> anyone ?
[20:39] <daire> lamego: so it has been removed from ubuntu?
[20:40] <Lamego> daire, no, it waws not
[20:40] <VSpike> Ubuntu--Newbie: kvpnc ?
[20:40] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: It does, yes.
[20:40] <gregory> Ubuntu--Newbie: try vpnc
[20:40] <daire> lamego: but it's no longer in the options
[20:40] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: The winxp pc doesn't have wireless though.
[20:40] <ader10> ’╗┐Is there a way to automatically update the grub menu? I installed windows and overwrote the mbr with grub but am not sure how to easily get windows on the list
[20:40] <Ubuntu--Newbie> can i get these from the add/remove?
[20:40] <Lamego> daire, try installing gnome-compiz-manager, or ask in #compiz
[20:40] <menakcman> I  cannot connect using RDP , it is timing out
[20:40] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: is the PC connected to the Net at all? presumably it is since it could talk to your laptop before...
[20:40] <_Lee_> What's wrong with this command? sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[20:40] <BizMan2008> anyone know of any ssh settings that would cause a vnc connection through putty to never fully connect?
[20:40] <daire> i have visual aeffects in appearance set to extra but it doesn't let me customize them.
[20:41] <daire> lamego: will do - ty
[20:41] <amenado> ader10-> did you read your menu.lst? i believe there are blurbs there on getting a windows entry
[20:41] <_Lee_> What's wrong with this command? sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[20:41] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Er... Just to make sure we don't misunderstand each other, how is internet relevant?
[20:41] <_Lee_> What's wrong with this command? sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh ...
[20:41] <ader10> amenado: yes. I saved it and tried sudo update-grub but windows doesn't show on the kernel list
[20:41] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: They both connect to the internet through a wireless router.
[20:41] <VSpike> ader10: you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub
[20:41] <ompaul> !repeat | _Lee_
[20:41] <ubotu> _Lee_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:41] <Slart> !ccsm
[20:41] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[20:41] <J-a-k-e> hi all any ideas why I get better sound in winxp, is it just a creative sound card support issue in ubuntu
[20:42] <Lamego> ops, i was missing one c
[20:42] <mitk0k> gregory, I can play the DVD file ( vob ) but I cannot load/choose subtitles
[20:42] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: so... you do have a LAN, in other words
[20:42] <zorglu_> q. for VoIP, there is skype/ekiga... and what is the third big one ? i dont remember the name
[20:42] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: what's your laptop's IP address?
[20:42] <_Lee_> What's wrong with this command? sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh ... PLEASE HELP.
[20:42] <menakcman> I am on a LAN . I still cannot RDP :(
[20:42] <kranny> hello
[20:42] <danand_> _Lee_ - try sudo ./usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[20:42] <Slart> J-a-k-e: could be.. what soundcard are you using?
[20:42] <amenado> ader10-> look at the file carefully, there are blurbs on how to add windows entries, they are commented out
[20:42] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Well... Yeah. Kind of. I can't share files over *that* LAN though.
[20:42] <danand_> _Lee_ - note the dot at the beginning...
[20:42] <kranny> How can i make Greasemokey script work for firefox in linux
[20:43] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: why can't you share files over it?
[20:43] <_Lee_> danand_: Still not a command it says.
[20:43] <ader10> amenado: I know...
[20:43] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: if both machines are talking to the same router, they can almost certainly talk to each other
[20:43] <Slart> _Lee_: drop the "PLEASE HELP" stuff.. that file may not be executable.. i'd use "sudo sh /usr/share.....blablabla"
[20:43] <amenado> BizMan2008-> on your putty client, is Enable X forwarding  checked?   X display location :0  ?
[20:43] <_Mick> so, anyone can help with netinstall?
[20:43] <kranny> Actually i need to edit a text file to change the signature
[20:43] <ay^> _Lee_: do the file have execute permission?
[20:43] <ay^> _Lee_: or user with that file
[20:43] <_Lee_> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[20:43] <amenado> ader10 so uncomment those and modify to get a windows entry
[20:43] <ader10> amenado: All I have to do is save that and it will work on the reboot? Nothing else?
[20:43] <_Lee_> Er
[20:43] <_Lee_> sh: Can't open /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[20:44] <Flare183> Is it possible to get mouse trails on Ubuntu?
[20:44] <Slart> _Lee_: does the file exist?
[20:44] <amenado> ader10 commented directives will not be acted on, you have to uncomment the entries
[20:44] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Well, that LAN (192.168.1.*) only has the router and the laptop. The pc is connected to the router by a cat5.
[20:44] <_Lee_> Slart, it should, I installed libdvdread3 ..
[20:44] <danand_> _Lee_  - sudo ./usr/share.... see the dot before /usr
[20:44] <Slart> _Lee_: remember.. Linux is case sensitive..  Examples and examples isn't the same folder
[20:44] <J-a-k-e> Slart: it's a creative x-fi xtreme audio card
[20:44] <ader10> amenado: ... After I finish editing the file and save it, do I have to do anything else?
[20:44] <ay^> Ar-Pharazon: but they should be able to communicate via the router
[20:44] <YuriQ> how do I edit the list of entries in GRUB Boot menu?
[20:44] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: When I shared files between them I used 192.168.4.*, the pc was 4.1 and the laptop was 4.2
[20:44] <Slart> _Lee_: use <tab> to autocomplete folders and files
[20:44] <ay^> Ar-Pharazon: I have the same set-up
[20:44] <amenado> ader10-> reboot?
[20:45] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: they're probably still on the same LAN, i would guess
[20:45] <Flare183> YuriQ: /etc/grub/ or something like that
[20:45] <chalcedony> can someone tell me about doing backups onto a different part of my own drive? i tried zipping my home directory, but it errors at the end because i keep using the computer while it's zipping. .. how to fix that?
[20:45] <amenado> YuriQ-> use vim or nano as root
[20:45] <Ar-Pharazon> ay^: Really? I thought the router was only good for internet access unless everyone has a wireless adapter.
[20:45] <Slart> J-a-k-e: the x-fi isn't well supported in linux.. creative isn't playing nice with the other kids in the playground
[20:45] <Flare183> YuriQ: i know that the file is in the /etc folder
[20:45] <ader10> amenado: I seem to recall having to do something like update-grub, but it looks like that's not needed. Thank you!
[20:45] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: So how do I share files over the router?
[20:45] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: well, just plug the ubuntu laptop's IP in as the hostname for winscp
[20:45] <YuriQ> is there a graphical configuration utility for that?
[20:46] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: it should prompt you for your ubuntu username and password, and then you'll be all set
[20:46] <ay^> Ar-Pharazon: no, I have wlan from my uber-1337 laptop and a wired connection to my stationary, and I amd ssh:ing from my laptop to stationairy as we speak
[20:46] <Flare183> !who > YuriQ (You talking to me?)
[20:46] <tyler_> Hi.
[20:46] <Slart> _Lee_: the path to that file is wrong.. mine is in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/ .. not in examples etc
[20:46] <Flare183> !hi | tyler_
[20:46] <_Lee_> Slart: Don't blame me, blame https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[20:46] <YuriQ> @Flare183 sure
[20:47] <tyler_> I was curious about the taskbar is it changable?
[20:47] <Itaku> is it possible to login to GNOME as root?
[20:47] <Slart> _Lee_: I didn't blame anyone.. I just informed you
[20:47] <Itaku> like anyway in the world
[20:47] <ubotu> tyler_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[20:47] <danand_> _Lee_ - sudo ./usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh :)
[20:47] <Slart> Itaku: yes.. but it isn't recommended, good for you, needed or safe
[20:47] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: So the window asks me for hostname, username and pass, the username and pass should be my ubuntu logins, is that right?
[20:47] <ay^> Itaku: well, it shouldn├żt be a problem if you got root access
[20:47] <Flare183> YuriQ: ok, gedit I guess
[20:47] <Slart> danand_: drop the first dot
[20:47] <ay^> yep
[20:47] <Itaku> Slart: i want to how do i?
[20:47] <ay^> Ar-Pharazon: yep!
[20:47] <BizMan2008> amenado: i dont need it set for any other linux box i have enabled vnc through ssh
[20:47] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: yeah
[20:48] <BizMan2008> even when i add it though, it still doesnt work
[20:48] <danand_> _Lee_ - sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh :)
[20:48] <Flare183> How do I get mouse trails on Ubuntu?
[20:48] <d1gital> what compiz packages does gutsy come preinstalled with.. i uninstalled them to fix some problems and now i cant get it back
[20:48] <geoyo> hello everyone! i downloaded adobe flash player, but i cannot install it, it says "archive type not supported" when i double-click the .RPM file. can anyone help me?
[20:48] <_Lee_> danand_: You lose, I did it already ..
[20:48] <amenado> BizMan2008-> you keep insisting you dont have to, but does it work?
[20:48] <danand_> _Lee_ - :P
[20:48] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: It says "connection failed". The details are "connection failed".
[20:48] <crdlb> d1gital: compiz
[20:48] <chalcedony> does anyone have a url for how to back up your stuff to a different section of your own drive please?
[20:48] <graft> Itaku: why do you want to? It's almost always a bad idea
[20:48] <Flare183> !rpm | geoyo
[20:48] <ubotu> geoyo: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[20:48] <gregory> geoyo: choose *tar.gz from the webpage
[20:48] <ay^> chalcedony: you could tar it
[20:48] <Lamego> !flash
[20:48] <Slart> Itaku: there is a switch somewhere.. gconf-editor perhaps .. I can't remember.. but you have been warned.. I'll taunt you if you come back with a broken install.. =)
[20:48] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[20:48] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: can you ping the laptop from your windows machine?
[20:48] <Itaku> graft: im really lazy and im too lazy to use sudo and then time in my huge pass
[20:49] <Itaku> i know all the warnings
[20:49] <chalcedony> ay^: yes .. i need step by step commands?
[20:49] <Slart> Itaku: then ask us how to fix that instead
[20:49] <tyler_> Chalcedony if you have 2 harddrives try putting them all the important files on to it.
[20:49] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Yeah.
[20:49] <Itaku> my responsibility blablabla
[20:49] <Slart> Itaku: you can open a root shell if you want
[20:49] <tyler_> On to 1*
[20:49] <Itaku> naw i want root gnome
[20:49] <Itaku> can you just tell me?
[20:49] <graft> Itaku: if you're lazy, you can just disable passwords, or open a root shell, or give yourself a long time before your sudo tickets run out, etc.
[20:49] <tyler_> Does anyone here know how to change my taskbar theme?
[20:49] <Lamego> !sudoroot | Itaku
[20:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoroot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:49] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: are you running ssh on the ubuntu machine?
[20:49] <chalcedony> tyler-_: um yeah maybe .. i'd have to go outside and find a computer that has  working drive to salvage i guess.
[20:49] <Lamego> !rootsudo | Itaku
[20:49] <ubotu> Itaku: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[20:50] <ay^> chalcedony: mkay well you could make a list of all the files, and then tell tar to tar those files
[20:50] <Slart> Itaku: I don't know where exactly.. there is a switch somewhere .. something like "allow root to login to gnome".. it's enabled by default
[20:50] <geoyo> gregory thanks, i have downloaded it, how can i install it now?
[20:50] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Not as far as I know.
[20:50] <chalcedony> ay^: thousands
[20:50] <d1gital> Itaku log in as root from terminal and startx
[20:50] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: well, you should probably do that first :)
[20:50] <Slart> Itaku: might be in the login window preferences
[20:50] <tyler_> Chalcedony: you can also buy thumbdrives maybe burn some CD but that may be a hassle.
[20:50] <OltreIrc`27323> Hello?Are there Italian?Contact me!Please
[20:50] <Itaku> mmk
[20:50] <Itaku> ill look for it
[20:50] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Er... How do I it, then?
[20:50] <ay^> chalcedony: mkay, you could tell it which folders
[20:50] <Starnestommy> !it | OltreIrc`27323
[20:50] <ubotu> OltreIrc`27323: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[20:50] <Lamego> !it | OltreIrc`27323
[20:50] <Slart> !it | OltreIrc`27323
[20:50] <J-a-k-e> Slart: that stinks, I'm something of an audio nut so will have to stay in winxp for now it seems. I know someone who has a m-audio card should be able to borrow it for an hour or so, m-audio even have linux drivers on their site.
[20:50] <Boohbah> don't hurt the bot!
[20:51] <Flare183> hehe rush to the it
[20:51] <Slart> J-a-k-e: yes.. it's very annoying.. email creative and tell them what you think.. seems they get a lot of fan-mail these days =)
[20:51] <ay^> chalcedony: say you wanted your homedir backed-up youd just tell tar to tar that dir and all files in it would get tared as well
[20:51] <Oddar> hello people, how do I use a patch-file
[20:51] <gregory> geoyo: right click on the file and extract it.
[20:51] <VSpike> now that's why I love linux.  Someone sent me a whole bunch of photos, one per email, all encoded as winmail.dat files.  Luckily I can use uudeview + tnef + a bit of bash to process the whole lot in one go straight from my spool and dump the files to my photos directory.
[20:51] <chalcedony> ay^: tyler-_ what i need is the step by step commands to back it up to another part of the same drive , tarring fist.. it's my home directory that has to be baked up before i upgrade to gutsy
[20:52] <Lamego> Oddar, man patch
[20:52] <tyler_> Creative sound cards are not to die for I think they make sound, sound like shit.
[20:52] <Flare183> baked?
[20:52] <tyler_> I bought one and it really sucked.
[20:52] <jussio1> !ohmy | tyler_
[20:52] <ubotu> tyler_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:52] <Flare183> !language > tyler_
[20:52] <tyler_> Oh
[20:52] <Flare183> oops
[20:52] <Oddar> lamego: yeah but the rest? im patching the kernel
[20:52] <BizMan2008> amenado:  yes it works on other machines
[20:52] <tyler_> My bad.
[20:52] <gregory> Oddar: is it a source code patch file?
[20:52] <BizMan2008> i have 2 othe rlinux boxes
[20:52] <BizMan2008> works fine
[20:52] <BizMan2008> its just htis one
[20:52] <BizMan2008> so its machine specific
[20:52] <FloodBot2> BizMan2008: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:52] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Err... About the ssh...
[20:52] <Flare183> !enter > BizMan2008
[20:52] <chalcedony> tyler-_: don't go anywhere, i appreciate your help
[20:53] <Lamego> Oddar, man patch tells you all you need to know about patching itself :)
[20:53] <Flare183> dang it
[20:53] <ay^> tar -cvf /home/youname/ /the/location/for/backup/filename_of_backup.tar
[20:53] <ay^> d'oh
[20:53] <Lamego> better tar -czvf (z for compressed)
[20:53] <ay^> yeah
[20:53] <tyler_> Anyone know anything about changing theme of those bars at top and bottum?
[20:53] <ay^> if you want that
[20:53] <tyler_> anyone?
[20:53] <amenado> BizMan2008-> on the subject ubuntu box, can you try  do a local ssh login with X forwarding?
[20:53] <Oddar> lamego: thnx :)
[20:54] <ay^> chalcedony: tar -czvf /home/youname/ /the/location/for/backup/filename_of_backup.tar
[20:54] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: about it?
[20:54] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: oh, how to start it... um try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[20:54] <ay^> there, left out the nick :) bad misstake in this chan
[20:54] <Lamego> Tyczek, those are called "panels"
[20:54] <J-a-k-e> Slart:  haha yes I'm not surprised especially after the daniel_k incident
[20:54] <ay^> lol! chalcedony that was wrong
[20:54] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: sudo: /etc/init.d/ssh: command not found
[20:54] <ay^> its the other way around
[20:54] <daire> should i use adobe flash or gnash swf for video in firefox?
[20:55] <Lamego> Ar-Pharazon, you dont have the ssh server installed
[20:55] <gregory> daire: first try gnash
[20:55] <Lamego> daire, adobe flash
[20:55] <Slart> J-a-k-e: yup.. I agree totally.. but this is bordering on !offtopic
[20:55] <geoyo> gregory ok i have extracted it, what to do now? i'm sorry, i am a beginner
[20:55] <chalcedony> ay^: can i message you to show you my actual command?
[20:55] <daire> :O
[20:55] <ay^> chalcedony: sure, I think
[20:55] <Slart> daire: adobe if you want it to work =)
[20:55] <daire> lol
[20:55] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: err, odd. sudo apt-get install openssh-server openssh-client
[20:55] <gregory> geoyo: you have a new folder, open it, and start the installer program
[20:55] <Lamego> Ar-Pharazon, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[20:55] <daire> this is new to me, and also cool, being presented with multiple options for plugin downloads
[20:56] <juannicolas> Hi, I'm getting this problem when installing postgresql - http://pastebin.com/d6e4e410
[20:56] <Slart> daire: gnash is a great initiative.. I wish them all well.. but it's got a bit to go
[20:56] <daire> k ty
[20:57] <gregory> Slart: whats the overall opinion in this channel? gnash or adobe? just asking, new here by myself
[20:57] <virtigo> Hello, I hope to find someone who can help me with setting up internet on ubuntu
[20:57] <geoyo> gregory thanks, it works now :) cool
[20:57] <Ar-Pharazon> graft, is this the right output:
[20:57] <Ar-Pharazon> arpharazon@Azat-Laptop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[20:57] <Ar-Pharazon>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd                             [ OK ]
[20:57] <Ar-Pharazon> arpharazon@Azat-Laptop:~$
[20:57] <FloodBot2> Ar-Pharazon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:57] <Lamego> juannicolas, which ubuntu version are you using ?
[20:57] <Slart> gregory: I think most people use adobe's flash
[20:57] <juannicolas> 6.06
[20:57] <gregory> Slart: ok
[20:57] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: yep, that's right... try again with the winscp thing
[20:57] <Slart> gregory: but I'm just guessing of course.. might be just me
[20:58] <Lamego> juannicolas, sudo apt-get install -f
[20:58] <juannicolas> same error
[20:58] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Connection failed again.
[20:58] <Tyczek> Lamego, ?
[20:58] <virtigo> Im not even sure how to tell if drivers are installed for the eithernet controller, and if not how to install them
[20:59] <daire> i can't get over how smooth this os is running
[20:59] <gregory> Slart: no me too, i just dont want to interfere with ubuntu packages if not neccesary
[20:59] <daire> sorry offtopic
[20:59] <Slart> gregory: interfere? adobes flash is available as a package..
[20:59] <Slart> !info flashplugin-nonfree | gregory
[20:59] <ubotu> gregory: flashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.124.0ubuntu1~gutsy1 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)
[20:59] <juannicolas> Lamego, same error output
[20:59] <amenado> BizMan2008-> have you tried yet? locally ssh login with X forwarding on that specific unbuntu?
[21:00] <Lamego> try to remove the erroneous packages
[21:00] <daire> flashplugin-nonfree is taking a long time to install
[21:00] <ichigo> Hi. I'm having problems setting my apache to resolve 2 sites on the same ip with different ports. http://apache.pastebin.ca/985085 there's my vhost configuration
[21:00] <ichigo> Any ideas ?
[21:00] <Slart> daire: define "long time".. minutes? hours? days?
[21:00] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: I'm setting FTP as file protocol instead of SFTP, that can't be the problem can it?
[21:01] <Lamego> ichigo, try ##windows
[21:01] <daire> slart: 5 minutes
[21:01] <sharperguy> is there a package i can install to protect me somehow from ACK DoS attacks?
[21:01] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: yep, that's the problem.
[21:01] <WildChild7> ok.. now that I'm in the x, how can I go out of x with a command line ? stopx ?
[21:01] <Slart> daire: it might download something from adobe's site.. that could be what's taking time
[21:01] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: But the other ones ak for a private key file
[21:02] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: ask, I mean, not ak
[21:02] <daire> slart: it failed to install and is now trying to recover
[21:02] <Oddar> where is the linux kernel located?
[21:03] <Starnestommy> Oddar: usually /boot/vmlinuz-$(uname -r)
[21:03] <Slart> daire: well.. you might have better luck tomorrow
[21:03] <JSK> Hi, where can I enter a WPA2 Pre Shared key?
[21:03] <Lamego> Oddar, you need to get it: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[21:03] <BizMan2008> amenado: yes i have tried to no avial
[21:03] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: um. when do they ask for a private key?
[21:03] <Lamego> I believe you mean the linux kernel source
[21:03] <daire> Slart: is this because adobe don't really give a shit about linux users?
[21:03] <daire> it's trying a different ftp site now
[21:03] <jussio1> !ohmy | daire
[21:03] <ubotu> daire: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[21:03] <EspenAO> Hi all, I have a question regarding a ubuntu installation... I'm not familiar using Linux (just a little FYI), but I have a laptop I want to remove XP on (which is installed now), but I don't have any cdrom, USB, nor any other removable media (except for a external harddrive which is empty). Does anyone if this is possible at all?
[21:03] <daire> :O
[21:03] <tyler_> !oh | tyler
[21:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oh - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:04] <amenado> BizMan2008-> that meant your local ubuntu does not allow X forwarding
[21:04] <Slart> daire: I try not to judge to quickly.. but there might be some truth in what you say
[21:04] <WildChild7> Anyone? I've automatically logged in by startx& and now I'm in a gdm... how can I stop x with command line ?
[21:04] <djGentoo> I have a problem with networking
[21:04] <EspenAO> could I just download the files and "install" it from xp?
[21:04] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Well there was a field for it in the winscp window... Oh crap I feel really stupid now. It works anyway.
[21:04] <djGentoo> Wireless, IPW3945, E1505N
[21:04] <davetarmac> Hi all, i've got a VPN going with my works machine, but they run on Mac and I can't get access to the network drives from ubuntu - can anyone help?
[21:05] <Lamego> WildChild7, killall -9 X
[21:05] <djGentoo> NetworkManager keeps trying and failing to connect over and over again
[21:05] <amenado> WildChild7-> you are autologgedin via startx? how was that possible? to even run startx if you are not logged on?
[21:05] <danand_> WildChild7 - sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop?
[21:05] <Oddar> lamego: what do you meen? when i've installed ubuntu, isnt the kernel already installed?
[21:05] <djGentoo> Can anyone help? Ubuntu 7.04.
[21:05] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: all good now?
[21:05] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: It appears to work alright, thank you very much for the help
[21:05] <Conexion> I'm trying to close VLC media player... I hit exit on it... and the music is still playing... I tried to find the process to kill it, but it doesn't see the process and music keeps playing
[21:05] <stahl-werke> hello
[21:05] <djGentoo> ...?
[21:05] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: sorry it was such a headache after all
[21:05] <BizMan2008> amenado: well i can vnc locally
[21:05] <Lamego> Oddar, yes, but your question was about patching a kernel, patches are applied to sources, not to kernel binaries
[21:05] <WildChild7> danand_: I've tryed but gdm is there..
[21:06] <BizMan2008> amenado: its through ssh, only on that particular machine, i have the issue
[21:06] <juannicolas> root@QOS:/etc# dpkg-reconfigure postgresql-7.4
[21:06] <WildChild7> Amaranth: I'm remotely..
[21:06] <hw00djohn> hey, how do i kill a process in Ubuntu
[21:06] <juannicolas>  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: postgresql-7.4 is broken or not fully installed
[21:06] <Oddar> Lamego: ok so i need the linux-source to patch it
[21:06] <graft> Lamego: well, you COULD have a binary patch, it's just not usual
[21:06] <Lamego> hw00djohn, kill pid
[21:06] <djGentoo> hw00djohn: use kill or killall
[21:06] <hw00djohn> firefox froze so i xkill'd it, but now i cant restart firefox
[21:06] <djGentoo> anyone have an answer for my issue?
[21:06] <amenado> BizMan2008-> am not sure if your command is correct, what is the exact command you type to ssh in locally  with X forwarding?
[21:06] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: meh, no problem. I'm just happy to finally have a way to backup my stuff... Stupid vista tricked me into locking myself out of the os.
[21:06] <Conexion> hw00djohn: in terminal - 'ps' to get the process ID then 'kill ID'
[21:06] <djGentoo> hw00djohn: try this:
[21:06] <Lamego> graft, sure you could, but you dot not have :)
[21:06] <hw00djohn> okay, thank you
[21:06] <djGentoo> killall firefox-bin
[21:06] <djGentoo> that should do it
[21:07] <Oddar> Lamego: even so, when i use apt-get to install linux-source... where would it be located?
[21:07] <graft> i prefer pkill
[21:07] <graft> pkill -9 -f firefox
[21:07] <Lamego> Oddar, /usr/src/linux (if i still remember)
[21:07] <daire> Slart: is there a way to kill the applying changes synaptics window? i've tried just closing it and firefox already prompted me to force quit
[21:07] <danand_> kill -9 $(pidof firefox-bin) :)
[21:07] <djGentoo> He's gone.
[21:08] <BizMan2008> amenado: well i ahve not ssh'd from a linux to linux machine, just windows to linux, using putty
[21:08] <djGentoo> Anyways, can anyone help me?
[21:08] <danand_> killed him :)
[21:08] <djGentoo> I have an issue with NetworkManager on Feisty.
[21:08] <amenado> BizMan2008-> well you didnt even do what I asked you to do...
[21:08] <Slart> daire: hmm.. run xkill in a terminal and click on the window you want to kill
[21:08] <BizMan2008> amenado: then i misunderstood u
[21:08] <Conexion> I'm trying to close VLC media player... I hit exit on it... and the music is still playing... I tried to find the process to kill it, but it doesn't see the process and music keeps playing - Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy)
[21:08] <BizMan2008> amenado: can i ssh in and do what you need me ot do, i am at work
[21:08] <djGentoo> I take that as a no?
[21:08] <EspenAO> does anyone know how to get ubuntu installed without any cdrom, usb, or whatever... got a thinkpad lite here...
[21:09] <graft> danand_: pkill is superior to pidof and killall in that it can match substrings, so you need not have the exact name of the binary
[21:09] <daire> slart: cool ty, that was painless
[21:09] <amenado> BizMan2008-> where is this ubuntu box?
[21:09] <graft> djGentoo: maybe if you stated your issue, people could help?
[21:09] <Slart>  graft, danand_ and pkill supports autocompleting using <tab> =)
[21:09] <danand_> graft - just wanted to give another kill command :)
[21:09] <gregory> CorbinFox: in a console type: ps axu | grep vlc. what is the processid of vlc?
[21:09] <djGentoo> I said there's an issue with NetworkManager, and that it tries and fails to connect over and over
[21:09] <Lamego> EspenAO, you need to have an external media to boot somwhoe
[21:09] <Conexion> I'm trying to close VLC media player... I hit exit on it... and the music is still playing... I tried to find the process to kill it, but it doesn't see the process and music keeps playing - Ubuntu 7.10.....anybody?
[21:09] <gregory> Conexion: in a console type: ps axu | grep vlc. what is the processid of vlc?
[21:09] <graft> Slart: it does? not my pkill... :(
[21:10] <davetarmac> Hi all, i've got a VPN going with my works machine, but they run on Mac and I can't get access to the network drives from ubuntu - can anyone help?
[21:10] <amenado> EspenAO-> two ways, if you already have linux on it, and if your ethernet supports  pxe booting
[21:10] <danand_> graft - that could also be dangerous though....
[21:10] <gregory> CorbinFox: sorry
[21:10] <Lamego> Conexion, ps -ef | grep vlc
[21:10] <graft> Slart: maybe my shell isn't cool enough
[21:10] <chimp> If you install software using sudo make install, is there an automated way to remove it?
[21:10] <BizMan2008> amenado: at home
[21:10] <BizMan2008> i am at work
[21:10] <Slart> chimp: sudo make uninstall
[21:10] <chimp> haha
[21:10] <daire> Slart: when i try to get gnash swf player now it tells me This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first.
[21:10] <chimp> i should have tried that
[21:10] <graft> danand_: eh, kill is always a little dangerous... that just makes it more fun, in my opinion
[21:10] <amenado> BizMan2008-> when you get home later, try to ssh locally with X forwarding
[21:10] <Conexion> gregory: It lists 1755 and 2635
[21:10] <chimp> feel stupid now
[21:10] <Slart> graft: hmm.. odd.. afaik mine has always done that.. running gutsy
[21:10] <djGentoo> graft: so nothing?
[21:10] <Lamego> chimp, use checkinstall make install, so that the software get's installed like a package, you can remove it later
[21:10] <BizMan2008> how do i do that sir
[21:10] <CorbinFox> gregory: aheh, no worries
[21:10] <BizMan2008> what command amenado
[21:10] <gregory> now type kill -9 1755
[21:11] <chimp> i see lamega
[21:11] <EspenAO> amenado: got xp installed on it now ? so i was curious if there were any way to maybe partition my HD, then install it on there from windows... not sure, though
[21:11] <csais> yo i have a question... how can i open the windows files while im using ubuntu? i mean how can i explore the windows partitions?
[21:11] <Lamego> chimp, most makefiles do not provide an uninstall rule
[21:11] <graft> err, sorry, djGentoo - is it with all APs, or just one in particular?
[21:11] <EspenAO> amenado: sorry, no questionmark there after now
[21:11] <Slart> daire: hmm.. I'd just try logging off and on again... or rebooting.. you could kill the processes.. but it might be easier to just restart
[21:11] <daire> slart: will do ty
[21:11] <djGentoo> Only one, but it's the only one I have a key for
[21:11] <amenado> BizMan2008-> or if you have access to a linux box now, use your putty to log in with X forwarding and then attemp to log on to your home via ssh with X forwarding also
[21:11] <danand_> graft - :)
[21:11] <ay^> csais: they should be available to you in /media/
[21:11] <djGentoo> All the rest are protected and inaccessible.
[21:11] <Conexion> gregory: Lamego: That worked, awesome... now, what does grep do?
[21:11] <graft> djGentoo: but it can scan fine, anyway...
[21:11] <djGentoo> graft: Yes.
[21:11] <Dinasty> csais> go to Places->Computer
[21:11] <Lamego> Conexion, man grep
[21:12] <graft> djGentoo: and running dhcp by hand doesn't do it?
[21:12] <BizMan2008> amenaado: no, nothing here at work
[21:12] <amenado> EspenAO-> maybe you can use windows bootloader, i have not tried myself, please google for it..
[21:12] <djGentoo> graft: Haven't tried it...
[21:12] <BizMan2008> what command do i type in the terminal
[21:12] <EspenAO> amenado: thanks, appreciate it
[21:12] <amenado> BizMan2008-> then try it when you get home later..
[21:12] <_Rambaldi_> what command will untar a bunch of tar.gz for me, tar xzvf *.gz does not work
[21:12] <djGentoo> dhcpcd eth2?
[21:12] <gregory> Conexion: it takes the output from the ps command (| builds a pipe) and searches for the pattern string: "vlc"
[21:12] <Slart> !doesntwork | _Rambaldi_
[21:12] <ay^> Conexion:  is displays lines that match you criteria
[21:12] <ubotu> _Rambaldi_: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[21:12] <BizMan2008> amenado: ok what do i type in, ive only used putty through windows
[21:13] <davetarmac> i've got a VPN going with my works machine, but they run on Mac and I can't get access to the network drives from ubuntu - can anyone help?
[21:13] <csais> thanks dinasty
[21:13] <_Rambaldi_> what was that for Slart
[21:13] <Conexion> Thanks everyone :)
[21:13] <Slart> _Rambaldi_: there must be some kind of error message?
[21:13] <amenado> BizMan2008-> you have not used your ubuntu box yet? only windows stuff? then may I suggest learning linux a little bit via tutorials?
[21:13] <cecko> hi all, will I remain bootable after resizing /boot?
[21:13] <djGentoo> _Rambaldi_: try this: for i in *.tar.gz; do tar -zxvf $i; done
[21:13] <graft> djGentoo: over here it's dhcbd for some reason... but whatever runs your ship
[21:13] <cecko> (my partitions go in this order: /boot /windowz  "/"  /home)
[21:13] <BizMan2008> amenado: no i have used ubuntu for well over a year now
[21:13] <djGentoo> I'll try it and be back, thanks for the hint.
[21:13] <BizMan2008> ive never used ssh linux to linux
[21:13] <graft> djGentoo: oh mine runs through dbus, how irritating
[21:14] <Lamego> BizMan2008, if you need X11 forwarding, ssh -X host
[21:14] <djGentoo> graft: Your dhcpd or NetworkManager?
[21:14] <graft> djGentoo: my dhcpd
[21:14] <amenado> BizMan2008->  in command line  ssh -X localhost
[21:14] <Slart> _Rambaldi_: I just meant that "doesn't work" isn't really a good description.. are there error messages in syslog? do you get any output in the terminal? does the computer reboot?
[21:14] <dikdust> hi on lts (6.06) Is there a way to apt-get new kernels ?
[21:14] <graft> djGentoo: but, networkmanager is also part of that whole dbus tangle
[21:14] <BizMan2008> amenanado
[21:14] <tyler_> I need help my sound went off It was working like 5 minutes ago it's all pluged in everything.
[21:14] <djGentoo> argh
[21:14] <BizMan2008> ok now i use private key to get in
[21:14] <chimp> If you mess up an install is there a way to reset all its settings/configs files etc without reinstalling the os?
[21:14] <Lamego> dikdust, no, you would get into troubles
[21:14] <BizMan2008> how would i include that
[21:15] <Lamego> chimp, for a particular package, yes, remove it with --purge and reinstall it
[21:15] <graft> djGentoo: you could (a) kill dbus and (b) download dhclient, etc., and go the old-fashioned route, see if that works
[21:15] <chimp> Lamego: i mean more generally
[21:15] <Slart> chimp: I don't think there is a "reset everything to default" button.. what did you mess up?
[21:15] <chimp> :P
[21:15] <Lamego> BizMan2008, you dont need a private key to login
[21:15] <Lamego> chimp, no
[21:15] <Moofius> "virtual memory exhausted: Cannot allocate memory"
[21:15] <graft> djennewe: dhcp3-client is still in the repository
[21:15] <Dinasty> dikdust, to play with other kernels, you cant use apt-get, unless you write a install script for it
[21:15] <dikdust> Lamego, I mean, if I want to exclude bug fixes I need to recompile myself , there aren't a rep
[21:15] <YuriQ> I have really ugly Bold fonts in my Firefox, especially in GMail - they are extremely thick, and letters are squished together
[21:15] <BizMan2008> Lamego: how is that? thats how i set it up
[21:15] <graft> djennewe: never mind that, that was for djGentoo, who apparently died
[21:15] <Lamego> dikdust, yes, you will need to build it yourself
[21:15] <dikdust> ok thanks Dinasty and Lamego
[21:15] <YuriQ> I've followed a lot of the tutorials on ubuntuforums
[21:16] <Slart> YuriQ: perhaps you don't have the ms fonts installed?
[21:16] <dikdust> I guess I can wain for next lts :P
[21:16] <Lamego> Biohazard, hum ? the sshd is setup to request for a private key ?
[21:16] <chimp> Is ubuntu server, not so messed up but im trying to get vlc 0.9 compiled with ffmpeg compiled using swscale, i messed it up and have given up, but it made compiling vlc normally impossible for some reason
[21:16] <Slart> !mstcorefonts
[21:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mstcorefonts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:16] <dikdust> than upgrade
[21:16] <cchild> can someone help with this bootup warning? " modprobe: WARNING: Error inserting padlock_sha"
[21:16] <Lamego> i meant bizman
[21:16] <YuriQ> So, once I have them installed - what are the Firefox settings that I have to do?
[21:16] <Jack_Sparrow> slart  two tt's
[21:17] <Slart> !msttcorefonts
[21:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msttcorefonts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:17] <tyler_> Can anyone help????
[21:17] <noob13> with what?
[21:17] <tyler_> I just lost all my sound
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !find msttcorefonts
[21:17] <Slart> !fonts
[21:17] <ubotu> Found: msttcorefonts
[21:17] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[21:17] <tyler_> It was all working 2 seconds ago
[21:17] <dikdust> for the damned ati hd 2600 I need to run "sudo dkms remove -m fglrx -v 8.471 --all" .. Is there any other method to "clean" kernel ?
[21:17] <Slart> YuriQ: try running this in a terminal, "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts".. then restart firefox and try again
[21:18] <Slart> Thanks, Jack_Sparrow
[21:18] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler_, what did you run or install just before things changed
[21:18] <noob13> tyler_: perhaps u unplugged your speakers or turned your volume down?
[21:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart,  np
[21:18] <tyler_> All is pluged in
[21:18] <tyler_> Uhmmmm
[21:18] <tyler_> all I recall installing was
[21:18] <cchild> can someone help with this bootup warning: " modprobe: WARNING: Error inserting padlock_sha" ?
[21:18] <tyler_> some python
[21:18] <tyler_> stuff
[21:18] <daire> Slart: now i get the error E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.  and it tells me to report it, my firefox windows are all frozen again
[21:19] <Slart> daire: then do that.. "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[21:19] <Slart> daire:  =)
[21:19] <menakcman> how to connect to a remote desktop running Vista ??
[21:19] <dikdust> or reenable restricted drivers but I guess there isn't on 6.06
[21:19] <daire> oh i did, but i didn't know i had to put sudo in
[21:19] <roico> hi... should i install the 64-bit or the 32-bit version?
[21:19] <daire> (i haven't learned what commands do yet:)
[21:19] <graft> roico: do you have a 64-bit machine?
[21:19] <roico> yes
[21:19] <YuriQ> I jsut ran apt-get install msttcorefonts
[21:19] <graft> roico: then i guess there's some benefit in installing the 64-bit version, eh
[21:19] <tyler_> If it helps I'm running 86x
[21:20] <YuriQ> it came back with: Couldn't get cwd: No such file or directory
[21:20] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Err... There's a problem, namely this is kinda slow.
[21:20] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler_, you need to be more specific
[21:20] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: how slow?
[21:20] <mad_max02> I cant play a video file with mplayer32 anymore
[21:20] <daire> Slart: it's asking me for the sude password for my account, but i haven't set a sudo one and it won't take my regular password
[21:20] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler_, was is stuff from our repos or from outside sources
[21:20] <mad_max02> it says "Option [gnome-mplayer] needs a parameter at line 4
[21:20] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Like, about a week to send over all of my stuff. Literally a week.
[21:20] <tyler_> My sound was playing fine then when I was playing chess I wanted 3D chess so I looked for some python updates
[21:20] <Slart> daire: check caps lock and typos
[21:20] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: rate? kb/s?
[21:20] <dikdust> 64bit version gives many problems
[21:20] <laurier57> hi, I just installed 4gb of ram on an abix ip35 pro and bios is seeing 4, but xubuntu gutsy is only seeing 3.29gb. is there a pae kernel or ???
[21:20] <tyler_> The stuff was from that updater.
[21:21] <Slart> daire: sudo password is your user password.. the same one you use to log in
[21:21] <menakcman> how do I connect to a remote desktop running Vista ??
[21:21] <daire> cool
[21:21] <tyler_> synaptic
[21:21] <roico> dikdust, what problems?
[21:21] <daire> it's doing stuff
[21:21] <dikdust> roico, limited software, wine doesn't run properly
[21:21] <cchild> can someone help with this bootup warning: " modprobe: WARNING: Error inserting padlock_sha" ?  blacklist did not work
[21:21] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: The ethernet card is 10 Mbps, but it went back and forth between 30 and 40 kb/s
[21:21] <BizMan2008> yeah is 64 bit still not stablke enough, or have stable enough packages to warrent using?
[21:22] <Lamego> roico, apart from wine, I didn't had any issues with 64 bits
[21:22] <dikdust> BizMan2008, I have tried it on 6.06
[21:22] <Slart> cchild: have you googled for that error message? there seems to be some threads about it in the forums
[21:22] <dikdust> and wine for me is a must
[21:22] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler_, I am involved with another issue atm.. try to find out what exactly you installed before you had the problem..  and if any of your repos are not-official repos
[21:22] <Lamego> 64 bits is stable !!!
[21:22] <dikdust> :P
[21:22] <BizMan2008> dikdust: what do u tihink
[21:22] <tyler_> It was openGL
[21:22] <roico> okay... i don't think i need wine, at least not now
[21:22] <Slart> BizMan2008: 64bit is stable.. but some things are just not available
[21:22] <tyler_> Python I installed
[21:22] <BizMan2008> causei have a core duo machine, with 4gigs
[21:22] <cchild> slart, yes
[21:22] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: my other ethernet card is 100 mbps though
[21:22] <BizMan2008> that i use for my server at home
[21:23] <BizMan2008> buti have 32bit ubuntu instlaled
[21:23] <dikdust> I can't remember but apart wine I haved other problems
[21:23] <daire> slart: we have adobe flash :)
[21:23] <Slart> daire: yay.. success =)
[21:23] <cchild> slart google was opt # 1 but the proposed solution did not work
[21:23] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: that's definitely not right...
[21:23] <tyler_> Is there a backup from last restart.
[21:23] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: the ethernet shouldn't be the limiting factor, the wireless connection should be
[21:24] <dikdust> I think that kernel updates should be inclued in ubuntu lts
[21:24] <Slart> cchild: well.. I can't help you any further.. I just saw that there were some threads about it...
[21:24] <dikdust> almost security bug
[21:24] <dikdust> :P
[21:24] <Lamego> !ot | dikdust
[21:24] <ubotu> dikdust: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:24] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: do you normally have issues with your wirelss being slow?
[21:25] <dikdust> Lamego, ubotu sorry :P
[21:25] <cchild> slar, yes there is a thread and it points to another which i have tried
[21:25] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: No but my ISP gives me 100 kb/s anyway.
[21:25] <roico> Lamego, what about flash and java?
[21:25] <mad_max02> Can anyone help me with 32bit mplayer ???  I cant play a video file with mplayer32 anymore. it says "Option [gnome-mplayer] needs a parameter at line 4
[21:26] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: ow. is your wireless 802.11b or 802.11g?
[21:26] <BizMan2008> if im only using my box to surf web, download, listne to music, burn stuff, watch videos... is it worth to get 64 bit ubuntu?
[21:26] <Lamego> roico, both work fine for me
[21:26] <BizMan2008> also, do the 32bit programs work on it?
[21:26] <csais> can anyone tell me where can i find some tutorials for coding? for beginners, im totally new at it
[21:26] <roico> Lamego, okay, great...
[21:26] <Slart> Lamego: you can use Java applets in firefox on 64bit?
[21:26] <graft> csais: amazon.com
[21:26] <cchild> thanks anyways
[21:26] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: it says "Mixed (11b+11g)"
[21:26] <Lamego> roico, you can setup a 32bits chroot in case you need a 32 bits app
[21:27] <tyler_> I may reinstall ubunto
[21:27] <davetarmac> i've got a VPN going with my works machine, but they run on Mac and I can't get access to the network drives from ubuntu - can anyone help?
[21:27] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: nein, that's how your router is set up... what does your laptop do?
[21:27] <tyler_> ubuntu*
[21:27] <eax> Can anyone tell me how to make ACPI see my laptop battery, I'm running Feisty (7,04) on an Acer TravelMate 4310
[21:27] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: /sbin/iwconfig should tell you
[21:27] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: it shoudl also tell you the expected bitrate
[21:27] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: 11g
[21:27] <csais> thanks graft but i don0t want to buy a book i just want some tutorials  where i can get started
[21:27] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: And that's 54 Mb/s
[21:28] <graft> csais: a book is your best bet, really
[21:28] <csais> oh thank you, which one do u suggest?
[21:28] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Wouldn't it be easier/faster to do this over the ethernet cards and not involve the router?
[21:29] <graft> csais: been years since i read one, but the one i used was 20 years old - "The C programming language", by Dennis Ritchie +  Brian Kernighan
[21:29] <csais> ight i'll look for it, thanks
[21:29] <Lamego> Slart, to be honest I am not sure, I said it is ok as in I didn't found any problems with java enabled pages
[21:29] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: you have to involve the router somehow, but you could plug your laptop into the router via your crossover cable and avoid the wireless
[21:29] <mohbana> is it possible to reduce my monitor brightness from with ubuntu (not using the buttons on the monitor)?
[21:29] <Slart> Lamego: hang on.. lemme find an url to try
[21:30] <_Rambaldi_> is there channel for themes?
[21:30] <Lamego> !themes | _Rambaldi_
[21:30] <ubotu> _Rambaldi_: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[21:30] <eax> Can anyone tell me how to make ACPI see my laptop battery, I'm running Feisty (7,04) on an Acer TravelMate 4310
[21:30] <djGentoo> I checked, and my system doesn't have dhcpd, dhcpcd, or anything like that.
[21:30] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: I'd have to pull my pc out of it for that. The pc doesn't have wireless at all, except through the router.
[21:30] <csais> graft: another question, which is the best way to get used to linux?, reading, forums, tutorial, or just use it
[21:30] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: your router only has one wire port?
[21:31] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Yeah
[21:31] <graft> csais: just use it
[21:31] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: hm. well, i'd buy a switch in any case, they're only like $20
[21:31] <noodlesgc> csais experience is the best
[21:31] <arch1_> hello
[21:31] <dan1el> join #ubuntu-de
[21:31] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: as for your connectivity issue... difficult to say.
[21:32] <csais> ok thanks
[21:32] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: run this on your lappy, see how it does: http://www.bandwidthplace.com/
[21:32] <Michael88> is there a way to make a NTFS HDD to ext3 without loseing the data on it???
[21:32] <mohbana> is it possible to reduce my monitor brightness from with ubuntu (not using the buttons on the monitor)?
[21:33] <Slart> Lamego: try this url, http://tempus.sp.se/applet/Paron_swe_2.html   it's a computer clock accuracy applet.. doesn't work for me
[21:34] <Michael88> !info format
[21:34] <ubotu> Package format does not exist in gutsy
[21:34] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: actually that one sucks, try this cnet one: http://reviews.cnet.com/7004-7254_7-0.html
[21:34] <Lamego> Slart, doesn't work for me neither :(
[21:34] <Slart> mohbana: yes.. if your monitor supports it.. search for i2 something.. i2c perhaps
[21:34] <Slart> Lamego: hrmpf.. to bad.. got my hopes up for a while =)
[21:34] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: So, um...
[21:35] <mohbana> Slart, sorry i am confused
[21:35] <YuriQ> if I modify .fonts.conf
[21:35] <YuriQ> how soon are the changes in effect?
[21:35] <Slart> mohbana: it's a protocol for controlling your monitor from your computer.. and you can get info from the monitor too
[21:35] <Distraught> can someone help me?
[21:35] <Distraught> plz
[21:36] <omnz0r> Distraught: with what?
[21:36] <Stroganoff> echo -n 100 > /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness
[21:36] <Stroganoff> mohbana
[21:36] <Lamego> !anyone
[21:36] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[21:36] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: Sorry I dropped from the server... Yes only 1 port on router. So?
[21:36] <Distraught> i "lost" a partition
[21:36] <YuriQ> Distraught: what's the issue?
[21:36] <Distraught> i tried everything
[21:36] <Distraught> nothing worked
[21:36] <YuriQ> Distraught: give much greater detail
[21:36] <dubby> hey anyone, what is ubufox, how does it differ from firefox, and why does my synaptic update want to install it?
[21:36] <Slart> mohbana: there is an applet for the gnome-panel.. "monitor profile switcher" that can do it
[21:36] <YuriQ> what are the partitions originally, what tools did you use, etc.
[21:37] <tokei> hi everybody... is there anyone who is using latex-make? i get a "no rule to make target" error and the manual isn't helping... :/
[21:37] <Stroganoff> Distraught: http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Ultimate-Recovery-CD-2008-52in1-AIO/4333199f4c630cc55a519067f25b9f178eb38e8fac04
[21:37] <Distraught> i have an 80 GB HDD and i was installing ubuntu. I was in a hurry so i chose automated install
[21:37] <Stroganoff> lol
[21:37] <Distraught> ..
[21:37] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: well, so you have two options if you want a wired connection: (1) figure out how to setup your laptop with a static ip and wire it directly to your PC, or (b) buy a switch for $20
[21:37] <Distraught> my seconf partition was lost
[21:37] <Lamego> Distraught, was lost, how ?
[21:37] <Distraught> i can;t get it
[21:38] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: 1 doesn't sound so bad.
[21:38] <Distraught> gpart gparted testdisk
[21:38] <Distraught> ..
[21:38] <Distraught> nothing worked
[21:38] <Distraught> my HDD is shown as 40 GB
[21:38] <YuriQ> dude, stop panicking, first of all, and talk slowly. how big were the partitions initially?
[21:39] <Distraught> 2 partitions of 40GB each
[21:39] <Lamego> also explaining how they were "lost" could be helpfull
[21:39] <YuriQ> what filesystems on each?
[21:39] <Distraught> ext2
[21:39] <Pelican> hayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[21:39] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: So how do I set up a static IP?
[21:39] <pedro__> !a
[21:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about a - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:39] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: potentially it isn't... the rough outline is: write down the IPs of both machines, set them both up with the same static IP, then wire them together and repeat your SCP thing
[21:39] <Distraught> lamego i was installing ubuntu and setup failed
[21:39] <YuriQ> ok
[21:40] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: in linux you can probably right-click on network manager and do it...
[21:40] <YuriQ> so, currently, you are in ubuntu - your HDD is what device?
[21:40] <chester_m> anyone knows how can i define a display size in VBoX?
[21:40] <YuriQ> is it SATA? PATA?
[21:40] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: on windows i'm not sure, you'll have to crawl around in the system settings thing, but it shouldn't be too hard
[21:40] <Lamego> Distraught, the ubuntu install does not delete partitions unless you tell him to do so :)
[21:40] <Distraught> i tried to install again i did it and my hdd is not shown
[21:40] <mad_max02> Can anyone help me with 32bit mplayer ???  I cant play a video file with mplayer32 anymore. it says "Option [gnome-mplayer] needs a parameter at line 4
[21:40] <djGentoo> graft: Nope, dhcdbd didn't help at all.
[21:40] <Lamego> Distraught, you are refering to 2 partitions on a single disk, or 2 disks ?
[21:40] <Distraught> 2 partitions
[21:40] <djGentoo> I ran it as root and as a normal user
[21:40] <djGentoo> and neither had any effect
[21:41] <Distraught> i don;t care where the data is i just need my capacity ( got a backup)
[21:41] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: The IP for windows stays at 192.168.4.1 so I'm guessing it's already static.
[21:41] <Distraught> any deas?
[21:41] <Distraught> ideas
[21:41] <Lamego> Distraught, if you dont care about yourt data you just need to create the second partition
[21:41] <YuriQ> type in "df" and paste it in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[21:41] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: no, just your router consistently assigns it the same IP
[21:41] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: it almost certainly uses DHCP
[21:41] <djGentoo> graft: No ideas?
[21:41] <Lamego> Distraught, sudo fdisk -l
[21:42] <Distraught> lamego you didn;t get it there is no other partition no unpartitional space anything
[21:42] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: It's static or the other ethernet card too.
[21:42] <Distraught> soz nothing.onlu 40 gb
[21:42] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: I can ping both ways over the crossover now, btw
[21:42] <Lamego> Distraught, sudo fdisk -l
[21:42] <graft> djGentoo: nein, other than googling your card for similar reports
[21:42] <djGentoo> graft: :(
[21:42] <Lamego> and post it on pastebin
[21:42] <Moofius> How to enable universe/multiverse repositories?
[21:42] <Pelican> yeah mycelium
[21:42] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: you have two cards in that thing?
[21:42] <Distraught> i allready tried that
[21:43] <Lamego> !repos | Moofius
[21:43] <ubotu> Moofius: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[21:43] <Lamego> Distraught, grrr, do it and pastebin it
[21:43] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: in the PC i mean?
[21:43] <Lamego> if you want help, provide the required info please
[21:43]  * chalcedony smiles
[21:43] <Moofius> in the console that is :P
[21:43] <Distraught> lamego http://pastebin.com/m76bd5c05
[21:44] <Lamego> Moofius, sudo nado /etc/apt/sources.lst
[21:44] <mad_max02> Can anyone help me with 32bit mplayer ???  I cant play a video file with mplayer32 anymore. it says "Option [gnome-mplayer] needs a parameter at line 4". What should I do ??
[21:44] <chester_m> where i can find the addons to virtualbox'
[21:44] <chester_m> ?
[21:44] <Lamego> Distraught, the linux kernel is identifying that disk with a 40 GB capacity
[21:44] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: yep
[21:44] <chester_m> there are no on repos
[21:44] <tokei> Moofius: run "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list" and remove the comments from the respective lines...
[21:45] <Distraught> lamego that;s what i am saying but my disk is 40GB (any idea how to fix this?)
[21:45] <Distraught> lamego that;s what i am saying but my disk is 80GB (any idea how to fix this?)
[21:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Moofius, you can also go to system..admin..software sources and enable them there
[21:45] <Moofius> Jack_Sparrow: not from ssh ;)
[21:45] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[21:45] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: I think I got winscp to work over the crossover.
[21:46] <Angela_Smith> hi all, What do we use to configure compiz? is it the gnome-compiz-manager? or is there something better I should use? TIA :)
[21:46] <Lamego> Distraught, have you checked your bios options for the disk config ? I remember that were some options that could affect the disk size detection, on older bios
[21:46] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: it says "1,494 Kib/s"
[21:46] <Pelican> swiftfox / firefox crashes like its going out of style
[21:46] <Pelican> why
[21:46] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: nice
[21:46] <Moofius> "FATAL -> Failed to fork."
[21:46] <Moofius> from apt-get
[21:46] <Lamego> during boot does the BIOS properly reports the disk size ?
[21:46] <Distraught> lamego i never checked bios (siemens notebook) because it does't allow any config
[21:47] <Lamego> Distraught, well, does it report the disk size at boot ?
[21:47] <Moofius> *aptitude
[21:47] <Ar-Pharazon> graft: That's 1.5 MB/sec, correct?
[21:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelican, How did you install flash/gnash and what addons did you put in.. is this ff3 or the ff supplied with ubuntu
[21:47] <Distraught> lamego no it only shows that i have a hard disk ( no size)
[21:47] <Lamego> Distraught, I am not aware of any x86 PC from this century without some kind of BIOS config :P
[21:47] <Distraught> lamego my english is bad sorry
[21:48] <Lamego> Distraught, btw, you mentioned you did a Ubuntu install, so why the only listed partition is NTFS ?
[21:49] <Lamego> why is
[21:49] <almostdvs> will somebody please tell me what it is that keeps renaming my windows partition    e.g.  /media/disk/...  to /media/disk-2/..
[21:49] <Distraught> i'm running live cd now and i tried many ways to get my capacity back .. it's formated ( i told you i don't care about the data)
[21:49] <Pelican> gnash was synaptic installed firefox 2m jack sparrow
[21:49] <graft> Ar-Pharazon: maybe, dunno what they mean by Kib
[21:50] <Distraught> lamego i'm running live cd now and i tried many ways to get my capacity back .. it's formated ( i told you i don't care about the data)
[21:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Distraught, start from the bios...
[21:50] <Lamego> Distraught, your issue is not Ubuntu related, since you have windows installed you can also check from it that your disk size is 40 GB, if you do have a physical 80GB disk you probably have a misconfiguration at the BIOS level
[21:50] <Distraught> i can't do any configs there
[21:50] <Osirys> Hi
[21:50] <Osirys> I need help
[21:50] <ay^> graft: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibibit
[21:50] <ay^> Kib
[21:51] <Lamego> or, your BIOS does not support such a larger disk (which also happens with very old BIOSes)
[21:51] <Osirys> I have to add a new user in my system, and then connnect within with ssh
[21:51] <Lamego> osimoveit, man adduser
[21:51] <Lamego> ops, Osirys
[21:51] <Osirys> Lamego
[21:51] <Osirys> then
[21:51] <Osirys> aduser than?
[21:51] <Osirys> adduser
[21:51] <Pelican> goddamnit i am a good drummer
[21:51] <Lamego> osimoveit, man adduser, it provides a detailed help
[21:52] <almostdvs> will somebody please tell me what it is that keeps renaming my windows partition  e.g. /media/disk/... to /media/disk-2/..
[21:52] <Distraught> lamego do you think if i update the bios maybe fix the problem?
[21:52] <graft> ay^: if only people adhered so nicely to conventions
[21:52] <Lamego> Distraught, eventually yes
[21:52] <Distraught> let's try...
[21:53] <erUSUL> |enter | Osirys
[21:53] <erUSUL> !enter | Osirys
[21:53] <ubotu> Osirys: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:53] <Distraught> i'll be back ether to say thnx either to try something else
[21:53] <Distraught> :D
[21:53] <almostdvs> will somebody please tell me what it is that keeps renaming my windows partition  e.g. /media/disk/... to /media/disk-2/..
[21:53] <the-killer> Hello how to recover grub
[21:53] <Lamego> !grub
[21:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:53] <the-killer> !grub
[21:54] <Lamego> Distraught, you will need to recreate your partitions
[21:55] <almostdvs> can somebody tell me how to remove older kernels?
[21:55] <Lamego> (in case your disk gets properly recognized)
[21:55] <Distraught> lamego i don;t care about the data i've got backups on a fileserver
[21:55] <the-killer> i have slackware and windows and ubuntu installed and when i had update slackware kernel i have a kernel panic when i boot with slax so i need to rebuild grub anyone can help pliz ?
[21:55] <Distraught> lamego i just want the capacity back
[21:55] <Lamego> almostdvs, sudo apt-get remove linux-image-version
[21:56] <hyperstream> !compiz
[21:56] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:56] <jaffarkelshac> almostdvs, i get that name issue as well did you get a fix for it? the /media/....
[21:56] <almostdvs> Lamego: will that get rid of all the older kernels
[21:56] <Lamego> the-killer, follow the ubotu instructions
[21:57] <Lamego> almostdvs, no, you need to specify the older kernels
[21:57] <cdx> how are you
[21:57] <almostdvs> so "linux-image-version" is a variable
[21:57] <cdx> jupi
[21:58] <Lamego> almostdvs, dpkg -l linux-image*
[21:58] <almostdvs> your losin me...
[21:58] <Lamego> almostdvs, yes, I mean, linux-image-version, where version is one of the installed versions
[21:58] <chalcedony> does anyone have a recommendation for a regular low-priced dvd burner that i can buy locally?
[21:59] <Lamego> the dpkg command allows you to list all the kernel packages, ii means installed
[21:59] <chalcedony> we have bought two sony dvd burners.. both don't work
[21:59] <jords> my asus works well....
[21:59] <almostdvs> Lamego: can you give me a sample line
[22:00] <chalcedony> jords: ty
[22:00] <Lamego> almostdvs, sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic
[22:02] <tawt> what do you guys use to burn .iso ?
[22:02] <Slart> !burniso
[22:02] <ubotu> To burn an ISO image of a CD in Linux, Mac OS or Windows, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[22:02] <Slart> I use brasero
[22:02] <the-killer> i need only to re apply grub <Lamego>
[22:02] <the-killer> i cant find that on site
[22:02] <the-killer> :s
[22:03] <Lamego> the-killer, you just need to chroot into yor root dir, and grub-install, yes, that is described on the grub how to
[22:03] <Lamego> !grub
[22:03] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:04] <zero__> hey if i install the beta, will i be able to upgrade to the stable when it comes out?
[22:04] <Lamego> zero__, yes, but for hardy, gor to #ubuntu+1
[22:04] <Slart> zero__: yes
[22:04] <Lamego> go
[22:04] <zero__> \thx
[22:06] <BrightEyes`> hello. how does the ext3 file system work?
[22:06] <Lamego> !ext3
[22:06] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[22:06] <Stroganoff> BrightEyes`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[22:06] <BrightEyes`> Lamego which is the best filesystem supported from linux?
[22:06] <Lamego> !best
[22:06] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[22:06] <Lamego> I would keep with ext3
[22:07] <zero__> gettin no help in there, how to upgrade to beta?
[22:07] <Lamego> zero__, keep asking there, here we don't use it
[22:08] <Lamego> and reading the topic is always a good start when joining a channel
[22:08] <jorgenpt> I'm running amarok and it's using 96% on a dualcore 2GHz. When I search in the media lib the music stutters. Can someone recommend a lightweightish mediaplayer with a medialib?
[22:08] <BrightEyes`> i didnt know that the ext3 filesystem need defragmentation. why is that? doesnt the filesystem moves the data blocks so they will all be near to their familiar?
[22:08] <Lamego> !defrag | BrightEyes`
[22:08] <ubotu> BrightEyes`: The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[22:08] <bofe> I'm interested in setting up a static IP address for my Gutsy box. I need to be able to do this from the command line. Any ideas?
[22:09] <almostdvs> Lamego:  does vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic sound like an appropriate kernel name;   i just don't want to eff up my stuff
[22:09] <Lamego> bofe, you just need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[22:09] <bofe> Lamego: I'm in that file. I'm not sure what to put in for "broadcast" or "network"
[22:09] <iclebyte> bofe, sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.100.x netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.100.255 up
[22:09] <Lamego> bofe, those specific values depend on your network config
[22:10] <Steven1> I'm still having problems getting a working display driver for my card and monitor. Any ideas?
[22:10] <Lamego> if you have other computers already configured, or dchp, check their config
[22:10] <BSG75> to install 64 ubuntu on an intel machine .. do I use the amd64 iso?
[22:11] <Lamego> almostdvs, linux-image-blah-blah, sounds, the vmlinuz is the kernel file, not the package name
[22:11] <bofe> Lamego: Okay. I want the IP to be 10.0.0.100 -- the router IP is 10.0.0.1. It's connected to the network right now via DHCP.
[22:11] <BSG75> grr let me ask that again .. to install 64bit ver of ubuntu do I use the amd64 iso?
[22:11] <Steven1> Anyone know how to get my ATI Radeo x850 card drivers working and also my monitor as well.
[22:11] <Lamego> gw is the 10.0.0.1
[22:11] <Steven1> ?
[22:11] <Lamego> BSG75, yes
[22:12] <BSG75> Lamego: thanks .. they should really consider renaming that iso from amd64 to just 64bit
[22:12] <BSG75> it's bloody confusing
[22:12] <__SiftinDotCom> ???
[22:12] <Lamego> bofe, if it's connected with dchp right now, just check the config with: ifconfig
[22:12] <Bender> how do you set up a network bridge from wlan0 to eth0
[22:12] <Lamego> BSG75, and you should read how is it called AMD64 :P
[22:13] <BSG75> Lamego: you a funny man :) .. I am reading now and realizing how stupid my question was
[22:13] <Steven1> I've tried everything I can think of but can't get my video card and monitor to work higher than 800x600 at 24-bit.
[22:13] <BSG75> Lamego: but I still stand by my comment of changing the name from amd64 to just 64 :)
[22:13] <jorgenpt> When I search in the media lib under Amarok on a dualcore 2GHz, the music stutters. Can someone recommend a lightweightish mediaplayer with a medialib?
[22:13] <Bender> how do you set up a network bridge from wlan0 to eth0?
[22:14] <Steven1> jorgenpt: Doesn't xmms have a media lib?
[22:14] <Lamego> Bender, I guess you mean routing ? since both are on different nets ?
[22:14] <bofe> Lamego: I've got the ifconfig output here. http://pastebin.ca/985216 I set broadcast, but I still am not sure what to put for "network".
[22:14] <jorgenpt> Steven1: Does it?
[22:14] <Bender> to make my xbox work on it
[22:14] <Lamego> or maybe its bridging :P
[22:14] <Bender> and yes
[22:14] <Steven1> jorgenpt: I think so. It's pretty much a clone of winamp.
[22:14] <jorgenpt> I only think it had a playlist?
[22:15] <ay^> Steven1: i think it doesnt
[22:15] <BSG75> bender: are you trying to give your xbox ip via dhcp?
[22:15] <Bender> yes
[22:15] <Steven1> jorgen: Well nevermind then. Still a cool player though.
[22:15] <ay^> It has playlist, but the medialibrary i think is missing
[22:15] <BSG75> do you have a dhcp server running?
[22:15] <Quentin`> Hey there :)
[22:15] <Bender> no
[22:15] <BSG75> bender: if not .. google ubuntu dhcp server howto
[22:15] <Steven1> So anyone help me get my display working?
[22:15] <Charlie_Steiger> hey uhh can anyone tell me how to configure my sound card on ubuntu 7.10?
[22:16] <BSG75> bender: there is a good wiki on the ubuntu wiki
[22:16] <Bender> ok
[22:16] <Lamego> bofe, there is no "network" field
[22:16] <lazarus> i am not happy
[22:16] <almostdvs> how do i restart and shut down from terminal
[22:16] <ay^> Steven1: I presume you have all the drivers needet working
[22:16] <Steven1> Me either lazarus. I upgraded to Hardy, and now my graphics don't work right.
[22:16] <ay^> almostdvs: reboot
[22:16] <BSG75> bender: it's pretty easy to follow .. holler if you get it all up and running and need a hand then :)
[22:16] <Lamego> face eth0 inet static address blahblah netmask blahblah gateway blahblah
[22:16] <harveyd> had a slight problem installing the hardy heron beta, when I login to the normal session, it accepts the password, starts loading, the goes back to the login screen
[22:16] <Charlie_Steiger> can someone PLEASE help me!
[22:16] <ay^> or, 'sudo reboot' perhaps
[22:16] <Bender> thanks
[22:16] <doodle> Can someone help me?  When i boot up my xubuntu 7.10 laptop, i sign in, adn then i just get a mouse icon and an orange screen.  It started up fine before but when i tried to uninstall a few programs, it froze.  When i rebooted, this is what happened.  I tried starting up with failsafe, but same thing happens.
[22:17] <lazarus> second hdd screwed
[22:17] <Lamego> bofe, netstat -r
[22:17] <efirewick> Hello. Is there a way to reinstall/repair 7.10 from the live cd? I un-installed LAMP and it took half the os with it...
[22:17] <Steven1> ’╗┐ay^: Yeah I have the restricted drivers on and they don't work. I also have fsxlg or whatever it's called and they don't work either for some reason.
[22:17] <magicrobotmonkey> anyone seen this: sudo: unable to resolve host lappy686
[22:17] <harveyd> it does the same from the live cd, says "user ubuntu will login in 10 seconds" then gets stuck in a loop
[22:17] <thenetduck> Is there any reason to wait to install Hardy Heron Beta vs installing it in 10 days?
[22:17] <bofe> Lamego: Do you want me to pastebin the output?
[22:17] <magicrobotmonkey> where lappy686 is my hostname
[22:17] <BSG75> thenetducks: I am installing now :)
[22:17] <Lamego> efirewick, yes, assuming apt-get is working on the target system
[22:17] <harveyd> if I choose a gnome failsafe session, it works fine
[22:17] <ay^> thenetduck: yes improvements will be done in 10 days
[22:17] <Lamego> bofe, well, do you still have doubts ?
[22:18] <bofe> Lamego: I'm gonna go for it. Thank you so much for your help.
[22:18] <drzed> hi there
[22:18] <ay^> Steven1: hmm then I have little to add..
[22:18] <BSG75> ay^: won't we get that anyway via apt?
[22:18] <lazarus> how do you check disks for bad sectors in ubuntu
[22:18] <Lamego> bofe, ifconfig provides, ip, netmask, broadcast
[22:18] <efirewick> Lamego: maybe. I'll check
[22:18] <drzed> which kernel version is incl in ubuntu v. 6.10?
[22:18] <Lamego> netstat -r provides the default gw, which is your router ip
[22:18] <ay^> BSG75: well.. yes, but I was told yesterday it was better to wait for the real deal
[22:18] <BSG75> ay^: but of couse
[22:18] <Steven1> ’╗┐ay^: Damn. I've been working on it for about two days now since I upgraded to Hardy and still no joy.
[22:18] <thenetduck> why?
[22:19] <BSG75> ay^: managing expectations is a hard thing :)
[22:19] <ay^> Because of the things thats getting improved ><
[22:19] <hyperstream> 7.10 is called by what name?
[22:19] <thenetduck> BSG75, yarrr...
[22:19] <hyperstream> gutsy ?
[22:19] <efirewick> Lamego: yeah, it is.
[22:19] <Lamego> hypercity, yes
[22:19] <ay^> You know.. the improvements..? :(
[22:19] <doodle> Can someone help me real quick?
[22:19] <erUSUL> drzed: 6.10 ?? iirc 2.6.17
[22:19] <BSG75> thenetduck: just remember it's BETA.. as in .. might have issue ... not a weapon to bash ubuntu :P
[22:20] <Lamego> efirewick, so yes, you can boot from a live, or use the recovery option (from the alternate cd)
[22:20] <BSG75> I am installing the 64bit ver
[22:20] <lazarus> help
[22:20] <ay^> Steven1: whats your gf-card?
[22:20] <erUSUL> !ask
[22:20] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:20] <Lamego> with the live cd you will need to, mount the root part, chroot to it, install/fix whatever you need
[22:20] <thenetduck> BSG75, well I think I can live with Beta for 10 days
[22:20] <BSG75> then again I like women .. so I am self abusive by nature :)
[22:20] <BSG75> thenetduck: you got it bud :)
[22:20] <ay^> BSG75: :D
[22:20] <ay^> BSG75: hell I even married one of those
[22:20] <efirewick> Lamego: If I boot from the live, how do I repair ubuntu?
[22:20] <harveyd> was just impatient
[22:21] <BSG75> ay^: 13 years.. I haven't been right ... but I am very happy ... so I am told :)
[22:21] <thenetduck> BSG75, its going to be the same system if I install beta and upgrade as a system that I just did a clean install right?
[22:21] <drzed> erUSUL: tjx
[22:21] <harveyd> got a new hd today and couldnt wait the 10 days :P
[22:21] <ay^> BSG75:  :]]
[22:21] <erUSUL> drzed: no problem
[22:21] <BSG75> thenetduck: usually you just get the changes .. you won't even know .. it's like an apt upgrade
[22:21] <Lamego> efirewick, list your partitions with : sudo fdisk -l
[22:21] <thenetduck> BSG75, most excellent
[22:21] <Lamego> efirewick, then mount it with mount /partion /at_some_path
[22:21] <doodle> I need help: My system boots to let me log in, but when i log in to last session, all i get is a mouse icon with an orange screen and nothing else.  If i boot up in failsafe gnome, i get the same problem.  But if i boot up using an xfce session, it works.  I'm using xubuntu 7.10
[22:21] <lazarus> need to check for bad sector on a disk how do i?
[22:21] <DeadLy_sp> wine problem :((((((((((((
[22:21] <bofe> Lamego: worked great. Thanks!
[22:22] <ragioniere> sera
[22:22] <DeadLy_sp> have big big big fonts i think on wine, and i cant config
[22:22] <Lamego> efirewick, then chroot to it, so you can run the install "from it", chroot /at_some_path
[22:22] <erUSUL> lazarus: man badblocks ;)
[22:22] <BSG75> pssst.. there ubuntu folks are pretty clever .. but don't tell them though :)
[22:22] <Lamego> efirewick, then you should be able to apt-get install whatever you need inside the chroot
[22:22] <khamael> does ubuntu support login via fingerprint?
[22:22] <BSG75> the intertubes may not be big enough for their heads then ;)
[22:22] <Charlie_Steiger> can anyone help me configure my sound card?
[22:22] <Lamego> lazarus, badblocks disk
[22:22] <efirewick> Lamego: How can I tell what I need?
[22:22] <Charlie_Steiger> i have no sound, please help
[22:23] <ay^> my internets can never be too small!
[22:23] <erUSUL> lazarus: but it is better to use the "fsck -c " option
[22:23] <Lamego> efirewick, reinstaller whatever you miss ? ubuntu-minimal ? ubuntu-desktop ?
[22:23] <Lamego> ubuntu-minimal provides you the minimal ser of packages, would be a good start
[22:23] <graft> khamael: http://www.novell.com/communities/node/3093/biometric-fingerprint-scan
[22:24] <swatTX> ok how come i can't gksudo into anything?
[22:24] <NeoGeo64> novell sux
[22:24] <Varka> khamael, with the sensors in thinkpads it works afaik, dont know what else drivers exist
[22:25] <almostdvs> jaffarkelshac: are you on hardy?
[22:25] <mpkiche> has anyone got evolution rss 0.0.8 working successfully?
[22:25] <jaffarkelshac> i am almostdvs
[22:25] <graft> khamael: hmm seems like libfprint and pam-fprint are already in ubuntu
[22:25] <jaffarkelshac> why almostdvs
[22:25] <graft> !pam-fprint
[22:25] <efirewick> Lamego: I used tasksel to install lamp, then I used it to un-install it, that's when it took a lot of stuff that ubuntu needs... So I am still not sure of what all it is missing.
[22:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pam-fprint - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:25] <almostdvs> jaffarkelshac: you had the same problem as me...
[22:25] <graft> khamael: oh wait, needs-packaging, never mind... not there yet
[22:25] <daire> is there a reason irssi can't be installed from the ubuntu add/remove application applet?
[22:25] <lazarus> i need new disk
[22:26] <jaffarkelshac> oh that, the previous mount points are not deleted so a new one is made, almostdvs
[22:26] <civixier> I want to install ubuntu from an external hard drive to a laptop (no cds involved), is there any way to use the ISO i just downloaded from the ubuntu web site?
[22:26] <mneptok> daire: most users would want a graphical client
[22:26] <jaffarkelshac> if its a fixed drive, then make an entry in fstab or delete the previous mount points in /media almostdvs
[22:27] <daire> ty mneptok
[22:27] <mneptok> daire: Synaptic always has it
[22:27] <almostdvs> jaffarkelshac: ok i was gonna tell you... /media method
[22:27] <Odd-rationale> !install | civixier
[22:27] <ubotu> civixier: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[22:27] <almostdvs> jaffarkelshac: what is fstab?
[22:27] <YuriQ> !colors
[22:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about colors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:27] <civixier> thank you
[22:27] <jaffarkelshac> fstab is a file the list of dev to be mounted when ubuntu starts up
[22:28] <YuriQ> eh
[22:28] <cbx33> hey guys if I have more than one sound card, how do I tell it which one I want the default to be?
[22:28] <YuriQ> ok - so, in "Appearance" I can modify all the default fonts
[22:28] <almostdvs> jaffarkelshac: will that make it so it doesn't get renamed again?
[22:28] <YuriQ> but I can't modify colors
[22:28] <YuriQ> (default gnome install of Ubuntu)
[22:28] <jaffarkelshac> yes, it will keep that mount point, almostdvs, is this drive removable? or fixed
[22:28] <YuriQ> where can I modify the color of text?
[22:28] <almostdvs> jaffarkelshac: fixed
[22:29] <linux_ero> how I can change the wallpaper with gconftool-2 ??
[22:29] <magicrobotmonkey> note to self, when sudo cant resolve your hostname because upgrading f*ed your /etc/hosts, gksudo still works
[22:29] <zaxius> can you make terminal windows and tabs automatically set the title to the hostname you're on?
[22:29] <Steven1> teamcobra: Ok I downloaded the 64-bit version. Will it still work since it says it detected my architecture is 32-bit?
[22:29] <sagredo> YO! Whilst in the command line, when I enter a long string of characters, how can I instantly jump to the very front of the line?
[22:29] <nickrud> sagredo  ctl-a should do it
[22:30] <Toznoshio> I just found this screenshot, and I like the desktop theme very much, but what is it called? http://home.insightbb.com/~tristan.smith/ew.jpg
[22:30] <sagredo> YES nickrud you are the man
[22:30] <tapas> ugh ooimpress says:
[22:30] <almostdvs> the home button...
[22:30] <tapas> no suitable windowing system found, exiting.
[22:30] <zaxius> sagredo, home and end work for me
[22:30] <jaffarkelshac> you need to unmount the drive and delete all the mount points in /media almostdvs
[22:30] <tapas> ugh web search shows no results..
[22:30] <Animortis> Can anyone link me with a fairly straightforward ProFTPd manual for a novice linux user?
[22:30] <almostdvs> jaffarkelshac: i did
[22:30] <sagredo> zaxius: also very useful, thank you my friend
[22:30] <nickrud> YuriQ you would need to either modify the theme, or add a ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file, and add it there.
[22:31] <BSG75> tapas: what are you trying to do?
[22:31] <jaffarkelshac> click on it to mount again and add the entry in fstab, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[22:31] <linux_ero> please I need help how I can chage the wallpaper with gconftool-2 ?
[22:31] <tapas> BSG75: starting ooimpress (openoffice.org presentation program)
[22:32] <BSG75> linux_ero: you want to change desktop wallpaper?? right click on desktop browse to pic and viola
[22:32] <jorgenpt> Suggestions for lightweightish mediaplayers that support a media lib? (Not amarok or rhythmbox)
[22:32] <tapas> http://rafb.net/p/zJJ08I67.html
[22:32] <almostdvs> jaffarkelshac: what would the entry be??   i'm not too into coding
[22:32] <tapas> BSG75: it always exits with that error message
[22:32] <marko-_-> guys i have a problem.. i downloaded a torrent file and opened it directly in the bittorent program... now i closed the aplication and in bittorent you always must load the torrent file again to star downloadaing but i don't know where the file is right now... any suggestions?
[22:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo > jaffarkelshac
[22:33] <jaffarkelshac> oh yeah Jack_Sparrow
[22:33] <BSG75> sec checking your link
[22:33] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[22:33] <linux_ero> BSG75 I need a script for chage wallpaper because I need gconftool-2
[22:33] <efirewick> Is there anyway to install ubuntu over itself without erasing everything? Or have it repair itself?
[22:33] <jaffarkelshac> almostdvs, you need to know the dev name, ie sda1, sda2...
[22:33] <Jack_Sparrow> marko-_-, look un your username folder
[22:33] <almostdvs> jaffarkelshac: i'm too lazy right now, if it renames i'll just do the workaround
[22:33] <nathan_> How do you invoke a command with a new shell so it doesn't freeze up? Example: "user@host$ konsole/gnome-terminal/whateverterminal -e uname"
[22:33] <almostdvs> thanks anywayse
[22:33] <Jack_Sparrow> efirewick, no
[22:34] <YuriQ> nickrud - the specific thing that I am trying to do is modify the color of the monospaced font
[22:34] <marko-_-> Jack_Sparrow, it's not there... you know when you download a file with firefox you can save it to the disk or open it directly in a program...
[22:34] <Jack_Sparrow> efirewick, see /msg ubotu clone
[22:34] <McManu> bylVf.tI31tBeROvFALi3/
[22:34] <sparkybean> marko: recent documents?
[22:34] <efirewick> Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[22:34] <YuriQ> the theme editing settings do not have that color (when I go into Appearance - Theme)
[22:34] <marko-_-> where is that sparkybean ?
[22:34] <Jack_Sparrow> marko-_-, you can try to find or locate it in term, but it may be in tmp
[22:34] <marko-_-> i searched in tmp
[22:34] <marko-_-> didn't find it...
[22:34] <sparkybean> under places
[22:35] <nickrud> YuriQ that's a pretty detailed thing, I can only point you at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes , you might find the info you need there
[22:35] <daire> how can i add an application i have installed via apt-get to my applications menu?
[22:35] <sparkybean> in the main menu bar
[22:35] <daire> ty got iy
[22:35] <BSG75> tapas: I think you just install libstartup-notification0  you know how to do apt-get install right?
[22:36] <YuriQ> nickrud: any graphical utility that you know of?
[22:37] <marko-_-> oh well i just downloaded the file again... thank's anyway
[22:37] <nickrud> YuriQ none. Not even sure you can specify by font in theming
[22:37] <BSG75> linux_ero: try this link http://www.djlosch.com/article_Code:_Bash_Script_to_Change_Gnome_Background_Randomly_(Ubuntu)
[22:37] <Lifeisfunny> does anyone have the name fo the file to install that holds the scripts in nautilus?
[22:37] <BSG75> sorrry bit slow tonight .. god bless the man or woman who discovered scotch :)
[22:38] <sparkybean> haha\:)
[22:38] <YuriQ> crap
[22:39] <daire> please tell me the command to launch and app in terminal
[22:39] <nickrud> YuriQ but possibly, if you're trying to alter the appearance of a specific widget (and are targeting the font itself) consider targeting the widget, then you most certainly can control the font
[22:39] <chalcedony> daire: type the name
[22:39] <tapas> is there a way to find out whether a directory contains files not provided by some package?
[22:39] <daire> it works when i type the name in terminalk manually
[22:39] <chalcedony> daire: it should work yes
[22:39] <BSG75> tapas: can you rephrase?
[22:39] <daire> but i've added irssi to my application menu and it doesn't work from there even though it displays the icon
[22:40] <chalcedony> how can i list the directories / subdirectoies in my home partition (if i said that sensibly?)
[22:40] <BSG75> daire: which <command name> to find out where it is
[22:40] <daire> i set it to launch through the command 'irssi'
[22:40] <BSG75> daire: do.. which irssi
[22:40] <tapas> BSG75: i want to check whether there's maybe some leftover files in /usr/lib/openoffice/
[22:40] <daire> k
[22:40] <BSG75> it will give u the path
[22:40] <BSG75> oh
[22:41] <daire> k i'm going to change the command in the menu from irssi to /usr/bin/irssi
[22:41] <tapas> BSG75: libstartup-notification0 is already the newest version.
[22:41] <nickrud> chalcedony ls -R $HOME
[22:41] <Dgro> Hi
[22:42] <BSG75> tapas: hmm are you trying to run from command line?
[22:42] <tapas> BSG75: yes
[22:42] <BSG75> tapas: figured so :)
[22:42] <tapas> let's see, maybe it runs in a vnc session ;)
[22:42] <LGKeiz> hey.. for some reason my cam turn on light is on, but I dont have anything using the cam.
[22:42] <LGKeiz> how can I turn it off
[22:42] <BSG75> tapas: you ssh'd in??
[22:42] <tapas> nope
[22:43] <tapas> maybe it's some xorg issue
[22:43] <BSG75> tapas: you need to set your terminal use your current screen
[22:43] <tapas> BSG75: i can start xterms, etc, just fine
[22:43] <tapas> BSG75: i use linux for more than 10 years now ;D
[22:43] <chalcedony> nickrud: ty
[22:44] <daire> i just needed to change the type to: application in terminal
[22:44] <daire> ty for the help.
[22:44] <tapas> BSG75: let's just assume we checked all the obvious things ;)
[22:44] <BSG75> tapas: good idea
[22:44] <Dgro>   I've made it to the internet 5 weeks ago,  I will now confess I can't figure out plugins and downloads...Help
[22:44] <element> hi guys
[22:44] <BSG75> tapas: I know what is wrong .. I just can't remember the commands to set screen to pump through current display
[22:44] <element> anyone knows how configure kismet?
[22:45] <BSG75> tapas: I blame the scotch
[22:45] <tapas> BSG75: you mean setting the DISPLAY variable?
[22:45] <Dgro> Hi, Element
[22:45] <element> su Dgro
[22:45] <BSG75> tapas: yes
[22:45] <tapas> BSG75: i count that under obvious
[22:46] <tapas> like i said my xsetup is just fine..
[22:46] <tapas> i trr
[22:46] <BSG75> tapas: set it to :0
[22:46] <hwilde> DISPLAY=myip:0 <command here>
[22:46] <element> i need to configure my Kismet!!
[22:46] <tapas> try to run ooimpress locally on my ubuntu machine
[22:46] <tapas> all other x apps work just fine
[22:46] <BSG75> tapas: :(
[22:46] <tapas> DISPLAY is set correctly
[22:46] <tapas> let's skip the obvious stuff
[22:46] <BSG75> tapas: sec thinking
[22:46] <hwilde> is your xhost denying the forwarding?  you have to ssh -X
[22:46] <kindofabuzz> element, try wireshark, and in the repos, works great
[22:47] <zedster_> I keep having my wifi drop out and my terminal stops working, I can shift-f1 to ttyl1 login and than type a command but nothing happens and no new prompt comes up
[22:47] <zedster_> any ideas?
[22:47] <element> kindofabuzz: i will try wireshark , is a wifi sniff too?
[22:47] <chalcedony> kindofabuzz: wireshark didn't work for me with Xchat
[22:48] <zedster_> chalcedony: do you have an intel card ?
[22:48] <kindofabuzz> element, not usre, has alot of options.  if you mean sniff as in will it track the wireless, yes
[22:48] <chalcedony> zedster_: i don't think so
[22:48] <zedster_> chalcedony: aka a centrino platform?
[22:48] <tawt> when i go to update manager, i get this message  "Could not download all repository indexes"  what do i need to do?
[22:48] <kindofabuzz> chalcedony, what do you mean? what does wireshark have to do with xchat?
[22:48] <element> kindofabuzz: i have wireshark installed right now but i think this program doenst know my wic
[22:48] <chalcedony> zedster_: kindofabuzz i was trying to get it to show packets to and from irc
[22:49] <BSG75> tapas: sorry I can't think of any reason for it to do that if every other oo product is working fine and we eleminate all the obivious stuff and the boss wants me off her laptop :(
[22:49] <hyperstream> !movieplayer
[22:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about movieplayer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:49] <kindofabuzz> chalcedony, it will show every packet, well it should
[22:49] <zedster_> chalcedony: your running it as root?
[22:49] <chalcedony> zedster_: kindofabuzz i also found the gui difficult it wont' let you copy from it
[22:49] <BSG75> tapas: but I will think about it while I do whatever it is her highness wants me to do
[22:49] <hyperstream> whats a decent movie player guys- one that allows me to switch between sound cards without using a terminal ?
[22:49] <zedster_> chalcedony: no but it will let you save it in formats that other programs can use
[22:49] <zedster_> hyperstream: vlc might
[22:50] <tapas> the other oo apps don't work either
[22:50] <kindofabuzz> chalcedony, did you try running it as root?
[22:50] <chalcedony> zedster_: maybe i will let you help me set it up after i figure out how to make a backup on here. yes i have it as root
[22:50] <zedster_> tapas: do they crash?
[22:50] <tapas> http://rafb.net/p/zJJ08I67.html
[22:50] <tapas> that's their output
[22:50] <ShdwShinobi> How can I change my screen resolution to something other than what's listed in the System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution menu?
[22:51] <zedster_> tapas: run a sudo apt-get build-dep openoffice* is all I can think of
[22:51] <daire> is there general consensus on the best torrent app for linux?
[22:51] <erUSUL> ShdwShinobi: system>Admin>Graphics and Screen
[22:51] <zedster_> tapas: also remove the open office gtk files and ubuntu open office gui files they suck
[22:51] <erUSUL> !best | daire
[22:51] <ubotu> daire: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[22:51] <erUSUL> !torrent | daire
[22:51] <ubotu> daire: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[22:52] <tapas> maybe it's got to do with kde
[22:52] <daire> ty
[22:52] <erUSUL> daire: btw my personal choice is deluge
[22:52] <daire> !p2p
[22:52] <ubotu> Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[22:52] <crdlb> daire: rtorrent, deluge, or ktorrent; for console, gnome, and kde, respectively
[22:52] <daire> ty ty
[22:52] <ShdwShinobi> erUSUL: When I do that, it messes everything up. I'm trying to run two screens at different resolutions. I can get them to run, but one screen is smaller and is running at a higher resolution
[22:52] <daire> :D
[22:52] <kindofabuzz> claire all in preferance, i really like deluge, but alot of trakers won't support it(private ones), azerus, i don't even know what they did with the newversion, i really like ktorrent, closest to uTorrent
[22:52] <neil> !font
[22:52] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[22:52] <zedster_> does anyone else have their wifi drop out and then their terminal stop working?
[22:52] <erUSUL> ShdwShinobi: sorry no familiar with dual head set ups...
[22:53] <erUSUL> !xinerama | ShdwShinobi
[22:53] <ubotu> ShdwShinobi: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[22:53] <kindofabuzz> chalcedony, i see my irc packets
[22:53] <hwilde> zedster_, did you install all the updates
[22:53] <zedster_> hwilde: yes
[22:53] <jwoah12> I manually edited the mouse section of my xorg.conf, and now my screen resolution is off.  I tried resetting it using dpkg-reconfigure, but it won't work.  How can I fix this?
[22:54] <hwilde> !fixres | jwoah12
[22:54] <ubotu> jwoah12: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type ┬½ sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart ┬╗ in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:54] <zedster_> hwilde: Its if the computer has running for a while, wifi freezes and terminal stops working, I can't open a terminal in f7 and in one of the ttyls I can type one command than nothing
[22:54] <ShdwShinobi> erUSUL, the thing is... it's working just fine, I can get ubuntu to display on two screens. However, it's displaying at 3360x1050 when I need something like 2960x1050 to accommodate the smaller monitor. I can't find an option to manually set the screen resolution
[22:55] <tawt> !wireless
[22:55] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:55] <hwilde> zedster_, there are tons of bug reports... google  "network manager stops working"  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/209970
[22:55] <chalcedony> kindofabuzz: wow.. ok and if someone flooded you, you could tell?
[22:55] <Explo> Does anyone know of any apps that allow the system speaker to go off at a certian time?
[22:55] <ShdwShinobi> If I could get 2960x1050 to appear in the Screen Resolution window, it'd work just fine
[22:55] <hwilde> ShdwShinobi, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:55] <jughead> jwoah12, a while back I had res problems; I ended up editing xorg.conf and deleting all of the resultions except the one I wanted.
[22:56] <chalcedony> kindofabuzz: i didn't mean that in a bad way.. the reason i wanted it is because some lamers target me
[22:56] <kindofabuzz> chalcedony, i dunno.  i don't get flodded
[22:56] <hwilde> chalcedony, iptables
[22:56] <hwilde> !iptables | chalcedony
[22:56] <ShdwShinobi> hwilde, I have the listed resolution (2960x1050) in my xorg.conf ( http://pastebin.com/maac4d0f ) but it seems to ignore the listing.
[22:56] <ubotu> chalcedony: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[22:56] <hwilde> ShdwShinobi, delete all the other ones
[22:57] <hwilde> ShdwShinobi, (make a backup first)
[22:57] <kindofabuzz> chalcedony, if you installed it from the repos you hsould have a menu item that says wireshard (as root)
[22:57] <chalcedony> hwilde: my son has access to iptables .. i don't
[22:57] <hwilde> chalcedony, sudo
[22:58] <zedster_> hwilde: what explains terminal not working?
[22:58] <daire> shouldn't my dvd drive's properties tell me what letter label is assigned to it?
[22:58] <neil> How do i restart x?
[22:58] <hwilde> zedster_, cpu going to 100
[22:58] <Explo> neil: ctrl-alt-backspace
[22:59] <chalcedony> kindofabuzz: i *do* show both the wireshark i made the mistake of trying to install not as root .. and the good one as root.
[22:59] <zedster_> hwilde: nope, I have the monitor running, under 130 f* and well under full load
[22:59] <hwilde> zedster_, irq conflict with the keyboard
[23:00] <ubuntu-supporter> aye aye ubuntu friends
[23:00] <ShdwShinobi> hwilde, I just deleted the other Modes from the xorg and restarted x, but it still doesn't give me the option to go to 2960x1050. It does however give me the option to go to 3360x1050
[23:00] <nous> hello, I need help to report a bug (first time for me)
[23:00] <hwilde> ShdwShinobi, that is messed up man.  it should use whatevery ou hardcode into xorg.conf
[23:01] <ubuntu-supporter> ShdwShinobi, DPMS?
[23:01] <ShdwShinobi> I know, which is why I'm so confused.
[23:01] <nous> hello, I need help to report a bug (first time for me)
[23:01] <Lifeisfunny> I just installed the applet for the nautilus scripts and can't find it,  would anyone know where it would be located?
[23:01] <hwilde> !bug | nous
[23:01] <ubotu> nous: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[23:01] <tyler> Hey I forgot what file it was but what file do I download for 3D cube?
[23:01] <hwilde> Lifeisfunny, do you know the locate command?
[23:02] <Lifeisfunny> hwilde, nope
[23:02] <hwilde> Lifeisfunny, run "sudo updatedb"  then type in "locate whateverfileyouarelookingforhere"
[23:02] <hwilde> !locate | Lifeisfunny
[23:02] <ubotu> Lifeisfunny: locate is a command-line file search utility. To make sure its cache is up to date run: sudo updatedb
[23:02] <ShdwShinobi> Uh, ubuntu-supporter I don't think so
[23:02] <ubuntu-supporter> Lifeisfunny, go for synaptic search for package and have a look at the preferenceres, there youll find a "installed files" tab
[23:03] <avrFreak2> Anyone in here experienced with dual-booting Ubuntu & Vista?
[23:03] <tyler> Anyone here no the file I need for the custom effect ?
[23:03] <avrFreak2> it doesn't appear to be possible
[23:04] <tyler> AVR just split the partition
[23:04] <tyler> =]
[23:04] <nous> hwilde : thanks, but let me explain after last hardy update, I found my system unusable at reboot : gdm doesn"t start, I can use <ctl>+<alt>+<F1> to have a tty, but only to find that my /home fs is not mounted (xfs) and that sudo does't work : I'm not sure what attachements to add to this bug
[23:04] <neil> Hey guys, one last question - How do i change my computer name
[23:04] <NW2190> Hey, Does anyone know how to install a windows game on wine that uses multiple install games?
[23:04] <avrFreak2> tyler: Can't. The Vista partition shrinker won't shinrk it more than 787 Mbytes, even though there are 165 GB free...I can;t get gparted to run on the system )-:
[23:04] <Explo> NW2190: by games, i assume you mean disks?
[23:04] <ShdwShinobi> ubuntu-supporter, yeah... it's DPMS
[23:05] <peterpot> I think it may be a problem with my monitor settings since it just says "Generic monitor" and can't detect what kind I have.  I have a dell latitude d620 with an AU Optronics LCD screen model B141PW01.  I can't find any info online about the horizsync or vertrefresh
[23:05] <NW2190> Explo: ya sorry
[23:05] <ShdwShinobi> Would you have any idea how I could fix the problem of my screen resolution not appearing even though it's in the xorg?
[23:05] <hwilde> nous, does /etc/event.d/tty1 exist?
[23:05] <Explo> NW2190: googling, stand by. =)
[23:05] <thannoy__> neil: by diting /etc/hostname I think
[23:05] <thannoy__> +a
[23:05] <tyler> Well when you install vista you have a choice to setup a partition you can set vista up to have 20gb of space and then make new partition with left over space.
[23:05] <afewnips-o-ubunt> ShdwShinobi, uncomment the DDC DPMS options and lines
[23:06] <_schism_> good evening all
[23:06] <avrFreak2> Tyler:   Vista came preinstalled on this hardware
[23:06] <Explo> NW2190: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512803
[23:06] <tyler> Oh so you havn't reformatted yet?
[23:06] <neil> thannoy__: Thankyou - i did see that file didnt know weather i could edit or not :P
[23:06] <moj0rising> Hi! has anyone else had trouble getting the kernel headers from the repositories in hardy?
[23:06] <avrFreak2> Can't reformat.   Have hundrds of gigs of data and apps with no practical way to back them up
[23:07] <moj0rising> When I try "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`"...
[23:07] <nous> hwilde : no. why would you want an init script for a console ?
[23:07] <yeas_> hi
[23:07] <yeas_> i want to associate my www.domain.com with my static ip
[23:07] <moj0rising> ...I get the error: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.24-15-generic
[23:07] <yeas_> how to do
[23:07] <tyler> avrFreak2 : I'm not 100% sure on how to set partitions limits maybe google it perhaps you may find your soloution.
[23:07] <ShdwShinobi> afewnips-o-ubunt, I have no idea what you mean... this is my xorg http://pastebin.com/m50a5dfed
[23:07] <hwilde> yeas_, google dynamic dns
[23:07] <avrFreak2> tyler:  none of the "solutions" I have found WORK
[23:07] <NW2190> Explo: ah thanks I'll try that.
[23:07] <nickrud> moj0rising that's hardy, ask about it in #ubuntu+1
[23:07] <hwilde> avrFreak2, just use gparted it's almost foolproof
[23:07] <Lifeisfunny> hwilde, thanks for the help, I found it with that help you gave me  :)
[23:08] <moj0rising> cool, thanks nickrud
[23:08] <Lifeisfunny> I guess I have to build a menu entry
[23:08] <tyler> avrFreak2 : let me search google.
[23:09] <afewnips-o-ubunt> ShdwShinobi, try setting DPMS to false
[23:09] <avrFreak2> I found a 55 page tutorial at APCMAG that claimed to be newly updated and specificallyb for Vista and Ubuntu.   Unfortunately, the very fiurst thing they told you to do isn't POSSIBLE on Vista )-:
[23:09] <tyler> http://www.mydigitallife.info/2006/11/27/change-or-resize-partition-ntfs-fat-or-fat32-size-in-windows-vista/
[23:09] <tyler> That may help.
[23:09] <_schism_> Is there a channel for wubi by anychance?
[23:10] <nous> hwilde : no. why would you want an init script for a console ?
[23:10] <avrFreak2> tyler:    yeah.  That doesn't work
[23:10] <tyler> HMMMMMM
[23:10] <ShdwShinobi> afewnips-o-ubunt, setting DPMS to false didn't work
[23:11] <YuriQ> I am finding that my fixed width font in Gnome is too light
[23:11] <stalker314314> my h.264 playback is jerky (but machine itself is good). problem appears in totem, vlc and mplayer, anyone have idea?
[23:11] <YuriQ> "Courier New" 10
[23:11] <tyler> avrFreak2 : maybe there is a way you can share C drive?
[23:11] <afewnips-o-ubunt> ShdwShinobi, pastebin your Xorg.0.log
[23:11] <avrFreak2> "share" the C: drive?    *HUH*?
[23:11] <hwilde> nous, that is waht makes it
[23:11] <tyler> avrFreak2 : I mean would it be possible to put Ubuntu on the same drive as vista?
[23:12] <YuriQ> It's as if my fixed width is using some kind of grayish color, and the rest of the fonts are using black. Except not - because the GTK setup is actually black for all of them
[23:12] <avrFreak2> tyler:   how?
[23:12] <Explo> tyler: same drive, yes, same partition: no
[23:12] <tyler> avrFreak2 : they aren't the same windows so diffrent folders. I'm not sure how but maybe.
[23:12] <YuriQ> (I have Subpixel Smoothing enabled on LCD, but I'ved tried turning it off, and that hasn't changed anything)
[23:12] <YuriQ> not really sure what to do
[23:13] <ShdwShinobi> afewnips-o-ubunt, http://pastebin.com/m1c81e72f
[23:13] <Howitzer> Hi, i'm having a small problem regarding a mounted FAT32 partition (did during installation, is in /etc/fstab). It's owner is root and it's group is plugdev. However, it's my data partition and as a user, i wish to have full access over it so how do i do this? (I've tried chmod but this doesn't do anything and chown is refused because i don't have rights, even though i do it as full root!)
[23:13] <avrFreak2> man, let me tell you guys, do *NOT* let *ANYONE* bullshit you ito payinf for Vista. It is the most unbelievable pile of *SHIT* ever produced in Redmond, a town known fo producing SHIT
[23:13] <Explo> Howitzer: sudo chmod 777 *drivenamehere*
[23:13] <tyler> avrFreak2 : Vista has so many problems.
[23:14] <Explo> Howitzer: wait, nevermind. *facepalm*
[23:14] <AaronMT> hi
[23:14] <Anghelik> hi
[23:14] <Howitzer> Explo, why nvm?
[23:14] <tyler> avrFreak2 : I refuse to use vista I have never tried it nor will I ever. Microsoft has ruined vista and I will only use XP or XP 64x
[23:14] <avrFreak2> Vista doesn't "have" problems, Tyler, Vista *IS* the problem
[23:15] <Explo> Howitzer: You said chmod didn't work already :)
[23:15] <tyler> avrFreak2 : true.
[23:15] <Howitzer> ooh yeah
[23:15] <avrFreak2> XP won't be available much longer, dude
[23:15] <Howitzer> thought you said chown :p
[23:15] <Explo> Howitzer: Unless you did something other than chmod 777
[23:15] <Howitzer> i tried chmod o=rwx
[23:15] <tyler> avrFreak2 : yes it will microsoft can't close a product if they are charging people 200$ for it.
[23:15] <AaronMT> anyone on an dell inspiron 1501?
[23:15] <Anghelik> want someone talking in spanish
[23:15] <hwilde> Howitzer, you need to unmount and remount it.
[23:15] <tyler> avrFreak2 : microsoft has been sued for that.
[23:15] <hwilde> Howitzer, what is the /dev/name and /mountdir
[23:16] <avrFreak2> Tyler: they have alreadybannopunced that XP will be EOLed as of December, 2008
[23:16] <mneptok> avrFreak2: please try to describe Windows with a bit less profanity, hmm?
[23:16] <Howitzer> /dev/hda2, /media/documents
[23:16] <avrFreak2> mneptok: *WHY*?
[23:16] <Lifeisfunny> well, I thought I was getting ready to have fun but I deceived myself, I'm not.
[23:16] <hwilde> Howitzer, sudo umount /dev/hda2
[23:16] <mneptok> !language > avrFreak2
[23:16] <YuriQ> Trying again: Ubuntu makes my monospace font wayy too light.
[23:16] <tyler> avrFreak2 : They won't I can almost 100% that because no one is buying vista and XP is one of their best selling products.
[23:16] <hwilde> Howitzer, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /media/windows
[23:16] <Anghelik> want someone talking in spanish
[23:16] <avrFreak2> They have announced it
[23:17] <hwilde> !offtopic | tyler avrFreak2
[23:17] <ubotu> tyler avrFreak2: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:17] <mneptok> !es > Anghelik
[23:17] <hwilde> !es | Anghelik
[23:17] <ubotu> Anghelik: Aqu├Ł solamente hablamos ingl├®s. Para Espa├▒ol, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - all├Ł obtendr├Ī m├Īs ayuda.
[23:17] <Explo> avrFreak2: They did the same with w2k. It's still running.
[23:17] <Howitzer> wth
[23:17] <tyler> ! shut up | hwilde
[23:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shut up - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:17] <acee12345> is there a way to install ubuntu from a thumb drive?
[23:17] <hwilde> !usb | acee12345
[23:17] <ubotu> acee12345: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[23:17] <avrFreak2> Explo:  they have already forbidden the sale of *ANY* machine with anything *BUT* Vista on it,if you buy it with Windows on it
[23:17] <hwilde> !offtopic | avrFreak2
[23:17] <ubotu> avrFreak2: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:18] <Explo> avrFreak2: Hmm, last time I checked, Dell still sold machines with XP on them.
[23:18] <mneptok> tyler: be nice, or begone.
[23:18] <lildevil> Hey guys, anybody know how to get ndiswrapper working from right off the cd?
[23:18] <tyler> Stop then mneptok
[23:18] <lildevil> the only way I have to get to my network, is via a wireless usb
[23:18] <tyler> Please
[23:18] <dmakalsky> Hi, I hope this question isn't too offtopic... I need some platform independent way of recording web-browsing sessions (including cursor)
[23:18] <bsrat> is there a sourceforge channel in freenode
[23:18] <avrFreak2> hwilde: MORON.  I ***ASKED*** a direct Ubuntu question, got one response from someone who cannot help
[23:19] <hwilde> !attitude | avrFreak2
[23:19] <ubotu> avrFreak2: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:19] <afewnips-o-ubunt> ShdwShinobi, according to your log none of the screens support the resolution u set
[23:19] <mrkeishii> how do you access /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:19] <tyler> avrFreak2 : Microsoft is being sued for selling product 200$ and it's going out when vista is only 300$+
[23:19] <Explo> dmakalsky: A hardware keylogger would track keys, but IDK about the cursor
[23:19] <mneptok> avrFreak2: name-calling isn't much better than profanity.
[23:19] <hwilde> mrkeishii, through synaptic, edit the respositories
[23:19] <mrkeishii> how
[23:19] <hwilde> !offtopic | tyler
[23:19] <ubotu> tyler: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:19] <Howitzer> strange
[23:19] <hwilde> mrkeishii, synaptic, settings, repositories
[23:19] <Howitzer> it's saying hda2 is not mounted
[23:20] <mrkeishii> okay thanks
[23:20] <Howitzer> but i'm very sure it's hda2 i'm talking about
[23:20] <hwilde> Howitzer, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /media/whatever
[23:20] <Explo> Howitzer: try sudo mount hda2
[23:20] <ShdwShinobi> afewnips-o-ubunt, I have two monitors that have no problem running at 3360x1050, but the second monitor can only do 1280 pixels, so I'd like to shorten it. Is there no way to make two monitors run at a different resolution?
[23:20] <mrkeishii> idk now
[23:20] <tyler> Explo would you know anything about 3D cube effect?
[23:20] <avrFreak2> hwilde:    a typical moron, aren;t you?
[23:20] <hwilde> !dualhead | ShdwShinobi
[23:20] <ubotu> ShdwShinobi: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[23:20] <hwilde> !ops avrFreak2
[23:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops avrfreak2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:20] <hwilde> !ops
[23:20] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[23:20] <YuriQ> Ubuntu makes my monospace font wayy too light, and no settings in "Appearance" make it crisper
[23:20] <Explo> tyler: I got it working before, i might remember something about it
[23:21] <mrkeishii> I typed /etc/apt/sources.list in the terminal but now it won't pop up
[23:21] <mrkeishii> idk
[23:21] <tyler> which file is it that I download?
[23:21] <lildevil> I have the ubuntu server 7.10 installed, and I'm trying to do some masquerading with my wireless card
[23:21] <mrkeishii> how do i open it up in the terminal
[23:21] <hwilde> mrkeishii, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:21] <Explo> tyler: It's already installed. hold on, i'll see how to edit settings
[23:21] <bon_> hi all
[23:21] <mrkeishii> oh
[23:21] <mrkeishii> okay
[23:21] <lildevil> But, I can't seem to get ndiswrapper to install successfully, because of whatever reasons
[23:21] <tyler> No it's a file you add
[23:21] <tyler> which adds a custom effects
[23:21] <hwilde> lildevil, i've tried to get ndiswrapper to work, but I have found it easier to buy a supported card
[23:21] <tyler> in your desktop.
[23:22] <Howitzer> damn
[23:22] <Howitzer> the device is busy
[23:22] <Explo> tyler: The software for the cube is installed by default, but it's hidden from you
[23:22] <hwilde> Howitzer, you need to unmount it first and close all the nautilus windows that might be browsing
[23:22] <Monobi> Any application to block traffic on certain ports, besides IPtables ?
[23:22] <tyler> Time to play hide and seek?
[23:22] <hwilde> !cube | tyler
[23:22] <ubotu> tyler: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also ┬½ /msg ubotu compiz ┬╗ and ┬½ /msg ubotu effects ┬╗
[23:22] <lildevil> hwilde: I've used ndiswrapper multiple times before, with 90 percent success.. it's just it wasn't installed with the server iso
[23:22] <tyler> compiz
[23:22] <tyler> I REMEMBER
[23:22] <tyler> I needed that
[23:22] <FloodBot2> tyler: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:22] <Howitzer> hwilde, done that
[23:22] <Pirate_Hunter> how cna i run my music/music apps from teminal (shell)?
[23:23] <YuriQ> is there a special channel for desktop UI questions?
[23:23] <Howitzer> still busy
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm
[23:23] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[23:23] <tyler> thanks
[23:23] <lildevil> Pirate_Hunter: use mpg123
[23:23] <DRebellion> Pirate_Hunter, use mplayer
[23:23] <bsrat> is there a sorceforge irc in freenode?
[23:23] <Monobi> Any application to block traffic on certain ports, besides IPtables ?
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[23:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[23:24] <Pirate_Hunter> DRebellion: mpg123 what kind of app is that and do i need a server for it
[23:24] <Explo> Monobi: I think firestarter would work
[23:24] <hwilde> Monobi, by default ports aren't even open...
[23:24] <lildevil> Monobi: why block them? Why not just cancel the service running that port?
[23:24] <Monobi> Firestarter?
[23:24] <Howitzer> how can it be busy with anything, noone except root can write to it
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Monobi, yes
[23:24] <Monobi> lildevil, er, for a shell server to block IRC.
[23:24] <Explo> Monobi: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[23:24] <DRebellion> Pirate_Hunter, forget mpg123. just sudo apt-get install mplayer . then mplayer filename
[23:24] <hwilde> Howitzer, sudo umount /dev/hda2
[23:24] <Pirate_Hunter> lildevil:mpg123 what kind of app is that and do i need a server for it
[23:24] <Monobi> I'm talking about outgoing ports
[23:25] <lildevil> Pirate_Hunter: no, you don't. it's a console based mp3 player
[23:25] <hwilde> Monobi, parental control:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226298
[23:25] <Monobi> thanks
[23:25] <Howitzer> root@sousuke:/home/sagara# sudo umount /dev/hda1
[23:25] <Howitzer> umount: /media/documents: device is busy
[23:25] <Howitzer> umount: /media/documents: device is busy
[23:25] <Howitzer> (i was mistaken, it was hda1)
[23:25] <lildevil> Howitzer: you currently using that directory?
[23:25] <Pirate_Hunter> Drebellion: I dont want mplayer i want to be able to run all my msuic from shell i wanted to use mpd but i'm finding it hard cause i think i need a server
[23:25] <tyler> How do I get gadgets up in this B****
[23:25] <hwilde> Howitzer, take it out of /etc/fstab and reboot.  then try to mount it manually
[23:25] <Howitzer> no
[23:25] <Howitzer> oh
[23:25] <Howitzer> ok
[23:26] <tyler> Press Control alt Backspace to load a cool feature.
[23:26] <DRebellion> Pirate_Hunter, you want a command line music player, right?
[23:26] <hwilde> Pirate_Hunter, mplayer-nogui
[23:26] <ay^> mp3blaster!
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> tyler, DOnt do that..
[23:26] <Howitzer> i'll write down the commands then
[23:26] <ay^> :D
[23:26] <Chousuke> tyler: don't give bad advice.
[23:26] <tyler> Ok
[23:26] <hwilde> Pirate_Hunter, xmmsctrl
[23:26] <Explo> Bad idea tyler
[23:26] <kdubois> is there a way to md5sum or sha1sum a directory?
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> mneptok, You beat me to it
[23:26] <Pirate_Hunter> lildevil: i want to run my music from shell i need something like mpd but simpler to sue if such thing is possible but also powerful
[23:27] <hwilde> Pirate_Hunter, xmmsctrl
[23:27] <lildevil> so anybody have a clue on how to download all the dependencies needed for ndiswrapper/utils to get it working on a networkless server?
[23:27] <hwilde> Pirate_Hunter, mplayer-nogui
[23:27] <Pirate_Hunter> DRebellion: yup music thorugh cli what programs are available to do so
[23:27] <afewnips-o-ubunt> ShdwShinobi, there is a way, you have to define another "Screen" Section with settings for the second screen, but thats complicated, i see if there is that dirty old file where i succeeded an example xorg.conf
[23:27] <tarelerulz> I download empathy from the ppa and it has voice with gtalk in it.  My distro updates have empathy in it and I wanted to know how you tell where an upgrade is coming from? I don't want to update and mess up empathy
[23:27] <Pirate_Hunter> hwilde: thanx will check it out what other apps are there for cli
[23:27] <lildevil> Pirate_Hunter: you would be running it from shell, Or unless you're asking for software to broadcast, and then I would suggest shoutcast
[23:27] <hwilde> lildevil, did you google this?  there are plenty of tutorials
[23:27] <daire> i am trying to enable the multiverse repository but the guide on your webiste is for ubuntu 6.10 and talks about system > admin > software properties
[23:27] <ay^> lildevil: download somewhere else and put it on a usb-thingie
[23:27] <DRebellion> Pirate_Hunter, mplayer
[23:27] <kdubois> mneptok: thanks for kicking tyler...
[23:28] <Howitzer> thanks guys!!
[23:28] <Howitzer> i'll be back later
[23:28] <Eltornado> hello anyone can help me to activate the sencode vga out on my laptop ?
[23:28] <Explo> Yeah, he was getting annoying
[23:28] <BarryToeman> daire: now it is sys -> admin -> software sources
[23:28] <lildevil> hwilde: yes I did. And that's why I'm asking, because none of those tutorials tell me how to get it without a working network.
[23:28] <Jack_Sparrow> daire, What distro ar eyou using?
[23:28] <ShdwShinobi> afewnips-o-ubunt, I believe, if my memory serves me right, that I had it working before I got XGL and Compiz. I was just about to reinstall ubuntu and see if that was the case
[23:28] <hwilde> lildevil, ohhhhhh without a networrrrrk    riiight.   that would be tough.  go to another computer and download the .debs I guess :/
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[23:29] <ubotu> APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers
[23:29] <macogw> lildevil: ndiswrapper is on the install cd
[23:29] <afewnips-o-ubunt> ShdwShinobi, gee, what config file does Xgl use?
[23:29] <lildevil> macogw: but the ndiswrapper-utils isn't
[23:29] <macogw> lildevil: just go to system -> administration -> software sources with teh CD in the drive and add the CD as a source.  then install it from there
[23:29] <ShdwShinobi> afewnips-o-ubunt, it should use the xorg...
[23:29] <Pirate_Hunter> DRebellion: mplayer doesnt have a music library that is very annoying there must be soemthing that has a music library and run from cli havent checked xmmsctrl yet but im sure it doesnt organsie my music files
[23:29] <daire> BarryToeman: i tried that already and it does resemble the guide for enabling multiverse
[23:29] <macogw> lildevil: oh.
[23:29] <kdubois> is there a way to do a checksum of a directory?
[23:29] <daire> Jack_Sparrow: 7.10
[23:29] <kdubois> or rather the contents of the directory
[23:29] <lildevil> macogw: the server version doesn't have an os
[23:30] <lildevil> errmm GUI
[23:30] <mneptok> kdubois: tar it and checksum that.
[23:30] <Jack_Sparrow> daire, system..admin..software sources will do it
[23:30] <m1lkc0w> Ubuntu 8.04 here. Gnome does not seem to load ~.Xresources on startup. I have some modifications for emacs in there. When I start emacs from the Panel, resources are not read. When I start it from the gnome-terminal, resources *are* read. Any ideas?
[23:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[23:30] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[23:30] <hwilde> m1lkc0w,   /join #ubuntu+1
[23:30] <kdubois> mneptok: i was afraid of that... i guess its time to whip out some bash-fu...
[23:30] <m1lkc0w> hwilde: Thanks
[23:30] <dannyboylawless> hey my rhythmbox just moved all of my media into my trash... so now i need to get them back to their appropriot folders... is there a restor button of some sort??
[23:30] <hwilde> kdubois, you could use the du command I guess
[23:31] <hwilde> kdubois, or just ls -l > output  and diff the outputs
[23:31] <lildevil> I want my old celeron 2 computer to be my wireless router
[23:31] <hwilde> lildevil, just drop the $50 on a linksys man
[23:31] <d1gital> is it possible to run multiple media players, or multiple instances of a media player, each on its own sound card?
[23:31] <kdubois> hwilde, yes, those might help out too. thanks for the ideas!
[23:31] <biabia> where is the theme chooser in xubuntu?
[23:31] <zax1> hello there, i am trying to link my 2 routers Access points so that the one can pick the other and extend the range. can some one help me out ? i have a sagem 2504 sky modem/router/AP and a netgear dg834 modem/router/AP , i am limited to using the sagem as the modem ( and therefor the 'master' AP).    the netgear can be set to WDS so i can tell it to refer all traffic to the sagem AP - but...
[23:31] <zax1> ...any machine connected to the netgear (the extending AP) cant connect to the internet or even ping the sagem router.  i set it all to 192.168.1.0/24 network - the sagem(modem) AP acts as dhcp from 192.168.1.10 to 192.168.1.200 and the netgear acts as a dhcp server from 192.168.1.201 to 192.168.1.253 .  netgear is 192.168.1.254 and sagem is 192.168.1.1   ... the main point(i think) is that...
[23:31] <hwilde> kdubois, or you could diff -q each file
[23:31] <zax1> ...i cant find any settings for WDS(wireless distobution service ) on the sagem AP.   any idea on how i can get it to work ?
[23:32] <lildevil> hwilde: I do have one. A dlink router @ the neighbors house
[23:32] <goodhabit> Hello guys. Advice me please, how I can see cpu temp on ubuntu?
[23:32] <lildevil> she's letting me use the net connection
[23:32] <lildevil> which I have running through that little machine using xp
[23:32] <lildevil> but I don't want xp on it
[23:32] <hwilde> zax1, you should google openwrt
[23:32] <lildevil> I want an ubuntu server
[23:32] <dannyboylawless> i had my media files from a maze of folders put into my trash.. is there a way to restore them???
[23:32] <Explo> goodhabit: gkrellm is a good app for monitoring
[23:32] <Ergo^> evening
[23:32] <travisat> goodhabit: install lmsensors and sensors-applet,  run sensors-detect and put the applet on your panel
[23:32] <kdubois> dannyboylawless: check ~/.Trash
[23:32] <d1gital> lildevil: running a server off your neighbor's wifi. Jerk. lol
[23:32] <lildevil> the lil xp machine is what is hosting my internet for my eMac
[23:33] <Ergo^> im looking for some soluton to controll UDP traffic - something like trickle maybe ?
[23:33] <lildevil> d1gital: I pay for it
[23:33] <dannyboylawless> kdubois, they are there i just don't want to move thousands of files back to a network of folders
[23:33] <d1gital> haha thats ok then haha
[23:33] <lildevil> half of it anyways
[23:33] <d1gital> oops haha overdose..
[23:33] <keithb_> Hi folks, wondering if I can get some help figuring out why a startup script isn't running. I copied it to /init.d, permissions allow it to be executed, and used "update-rc.d my-init.sh defaults"
[23:33] <lildevil> so yeah.. I wanna run ubuntu instead of windows xp
[23:33] <Daisuke_Ido> d1gital, too many hahas is the sign of a deranged mind
[23:33] <kdubois> dannyboylawless: i get what you're saying now, im wading through a media-filesystem quagmire too...
[23:34] <lildevil> and I have the server already installed. It's just ndiswrapper doesn't wanna work
[23:34] <daire> Jack_Sparrow: i am in system > admin > software sources > but the 6.04 guide for adding multiverse wants me to add a channel and i don't see any option like that
[23:34] <d1gital> yeah... i caught it tho
[23:34] <lildevil> because it's saying that it's not installed
[23:34] <VeN0mizer> I'd feel no guilt running a server on my neighbors wifi :) especially if they are older and just use it to look up recipes :P not like they'd notice *shrugs*
[23:34] <lildevil> and  I've already tried to add the cd as a source cd
[23:34] <zax1> hwilde its a sky broadband they have their own WAN settings wrt will wipe it out n i wont be connected nymore
[23:34] <ay^> lildevil:  so cant you download the files in xp and then boot in to ubuntu and do the rest?
[23:34] <maynards-girl> what application can convert a flv to mp3?
[23:34] <hwilde> zax1, good luck then :/
[23:34] <_Rambaldi_> you know how ie7 saves all files streamed in temporary internet folder, what browser saves like that. firefox deletes its files immediately even with cache at 1Gb
[23:34] <afewnips-o-ubunt> ShdwShinobi, dirty, but it worked to get the beamer working http://pastebin.com/m16ce2cc0
[23:34] <Jack_Sparrow> daire, dont you see a checkbox to add multiverse
[23:34] <zax1> thanks though
[23:35] <lildevil> VeN0mizer: I wouldn't :).. If i had it my way, I'd make my whole neighborhood bridge their net
[23:35] <kdubois> dannyboylawless: i would guess that there is no way to reliably reconstruct the filesystem, but dont take  my word as gospel...
[23:35] <Explo> hey, what app is considered the best for playing music and managing the library?
[23:35] <d1gital> is it possible to run multiple instances of a media player each on its own sound card?
[23:35] <BarryToeman> daire: check the box: "Software restricted by copyright or legal issues" under the Ubuntu Software tab
[23:35] <ShdwShinobi> maynards-girl, are you trying to convert a video off of youtube to a mp3 or from some other source?
[23:35] <dannyboylawless> kdubois, thanks
[23:35] <VeN0mizer> anyone else notice their ubuntu gradually getting slower as time goes on? I reinstalled it like a week ago and it's back up to speed, but gradually slowing down again...they say a defrag is not needed on linux machines...but something is going on :(
[23:35] <_Rambaldi_> I prefer banshee Explo
[23:35] <maynards-girl> shdwshinobi, yes
[23:35] <dannyboylawless> does anyone know of a way to restore a file from trash to its original location??
[23:35] <lildevil> VeN0mizer: Too much cache?
[23:35] <daire> Jack_Sparrow: ty
[23:35] <kdubois> d1gital: how good are you with alsa? ;-) the guys in #alsa might help better with that...
[23:35] <Daisuke_Ido> move it there
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:36] <VeN0mizer> cache? how might one clear this?
[23:36] <dannyboylawless> Daisuke_Ido (i think your talking to me), move it where?  I don't know where it came from
[23:36] <ShdwShinobi> maynards-girl, try this: listentoyoutube.com
[23:36] <Jack_Sparrow> VeN0mizer, I have never seen that happen...  what all have you added or installed
[23:36] <d1gital> kdubois i'll try over there, thanks
[23:36] <VeN0mizer> nothing...once I get my system up and running, the only thing I add are updates :/
[23:37] <VeN0mizer> it stays fast after I add all my software, and about a month later it's crawling slow for some reason
[23:37] <dmsuperman> does anybody know how i can refresh my preferred applications? I changed it from amarok to exaile but when I try to open an mp3 from within ktorrent it still tries to open it with amarok
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> VeN0mizer, really odd.  you didnt add any repos or anything else..
[23:37] <Daisuke_Ido> dannyboylawless, no idea then
[23:37] <VeN0mizer> windows did the exact same thing on this laptop...could be a hardware issue
[23:37] <Angel_of_Doom> hi people,can enyone explane to me how to install appliations?
[23:37] <maynards-girl> shdwshinobi, is there an application or something, and not a url thing?
[23:37] <BarryToeman> maynards-girl: ffmpeg can do this, ffmpeg -i yourinputfile.flv -o outputfile.mp3
[23:37] <VeN0mizer> repos...only like virtualbox sources for updates if that's what you mean?
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> VeN0mizer, from a terminal  what does lsb_release -a show
[23:37] <dmsuperman> VeN0mizer, not necessarily,windows does that anyway
[23:37] <ShdwShinobi> http://www.google.com/search?q=flv+to+mp3
[23:37] <theunixgeek> What's the default Firefox homepage?
[23:37] <VeN0mizer> lol true superman ;)
[23:38] <dmsuperman> theunixgeek, google
[23:38] <BarryToeman> maynards-girl: whoops....wrong.  omit the "-o"
[23:38] <Siph0n> Can anyone look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63230/ and tell me which line is my wireless card? Its an internal wireless card for my Gateway laptop. I am 99% Sure it is using the RTL8187 driver. Thanks!
[23:38] <VeN0mizer> lemme check mr sparrow
[23:38] <maynards-girl> thanks barrytoeman
[23:38] <kdubois> theunixgeek: if you compile from source, i think its blank
[23:38] <theunixgeek> dmsuperman: I mean, for Ubuntu
[23:38] <theunixgeek> kdubois: after the Ubuntu install is done :)
[23:38] <dmsuperman> theunixgeek, oh yeah, that welcome to ubuntu thing
[23:38] <theunixgeek> yeah
[23:38] <dmsuperman> theunixgeek, it's on your localhost
[23:38] <dmsuperman> theunixgeek, i don't know the location offhand
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> VeN0mizer, from a terminal    type     sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[23:38] <VeN0mizer> I'm using hardy, but keep in mind this happened with gutsy. I reinstalled gutsy 3 times and hardy twice, and they get slower :( on my desktop this does not occur
[23:38] <theunixgeek> dmsuperman: that's what I'm looking for, and Google isn't helping me
[23:39] <BarryToeman> maynards-girl: you can also control bitrate, etc, but the defaults might work for you.
[23:39] <Howitzer> i haven't got it mounted in fstab now
[23:39] <Howitzer> is there a next step?
[23:39] <Jack_Sparrow> VeN0mizer, It isnt normal.. it has to be a repo you are adding that is adding something
[23:39] <kdubois> Howitzer: remind us of what youre trying to do?
[23:40] <keithb_> pinging again--can anyone help out diagnosing why a startup script isn't running?
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> keithb_, is it trying to do something as root/sudo?
[23:41] <BarryToeman> maynards-girl: if the version of ffmpeg in ubuntu isn't compiled with mp3 support then read the "Fixing ffmpeg on Ubuntu" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iPodVideoEncoding
[23:41] <Howitzer> hello?
[23:41] <dmsuperman> Jack_Sparrow, what's that pastebinit do?
[23:41] <keithb_> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> dmsuperman, helps new users upload to the pastebin..  run it.. and it gives you a link
[23:42] <benanzo> can I use gpg with specifying a recipient or using a local key?  example can I just arbitrarily encrypt a file with a password
[23:42] <benanzo> *without
[23:42] <dannyboylawless> is there anyway of restoring files in your trash to the origional location if I don't know where they came from??
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> keithb_, that is were the problem is..  I cant help you with it.. any notes I had on that are on a different compouter
[23:42] <VeN0mizer> did you get my PM with the link Jack?
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> yea..  looking now
[23:43] <keithb_> Jack_Sparrow: do you know what user boot scripts run as?
[23:43] <dmsuperman> Jack_Sparrow, cool. quick question, what does it mean to "pipe some text"?
[23:43] <d1gital> back on my audio question (the guys in #alsa were little help) is it possible using multiple users and multiple xconfigs or something?
[23:43] <VeN0mizer> channels the output of a program to the input of another
[23:44] <mmm4m5m> I have one cosmetic problem :). I did open one huge file in gedit. Then I hit page-down key and release it after 1 min. Now I am still waiting gedit to scroll down page by page. What can I do (except wait or kill gedit)?
[23:44] <VeN0mizer> for instance "output | input"
[23:44] <dmsuperman> mmm4m5m, waits, or kill gedit
[23:44] <mmm4m5m> :)
[23:44] <mmm4m5m> ok
[23:44] <dmsuperman> mmm4m5m, ::P
[23:44] <Jack_Sparrow> dmsuperman, take the oputput of one command and sent it to another file or program
[23:44] <dmsuperman> Jack_Sparrow, using > ?
[23:44] <VeN0mizer> dmsuperman using |
[23:44] <dmsuperman> ah
[23:44] <dmsuperman> cool =D
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> VeN0mizer, You need to be asking in ubuntu+1 but I dont see where you added sources, did you remove them before posting
[23:45] <VeN0mizer> I think > works for windows...not sure about linux? I'll try :P
[23:45] <Strangelet> what command could I use to convert a load of files in a directory from uppercase to lowercase?
[23:45] <maynards-girl> BarryToeman: thank you
[23:45] <Ergo^> ’╗┐can anyone point me to some tool for UDP traffic shaping? trickle is only for TCP :(
[23:45] <BarryToeman> maynards-girl: i am so smrt.
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> dmsuperman, here is a wild one.. run this..     sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit
[23:45] <VeN0mizer> Jack, I had virtualbox sources on gutsy, but other than that, none on hardy, I just used the repo version of virtualbox
[23:46] <BarryToeman> dannyboylawless: i don't think so.  you can in KDE, but the Gnome trash just moves them into ~/.Trash
[23:46] <Jack_Sparrow> VeN0mizer, I have never seen the death spiral in ubuntu... only in windows
[23:46] <VeN0mizer> lol
[23:46] <VeN0mizer> lovely
[23:47] <benanzo> Strangelet: tr
[23:47] <VeN0mizer> it's gotta be this laptop, I'm cursed with a broadcom wireless card, and the bcm43xx causes random lockups on gutsy, and a useless X server on hardy :P
[23:47] <patrickva> If I'm doing an Ubuntu installation with an alternative cd, how much space should I give the boot partition?
[23:47] <VeN0mizer> and ndiswrapper doesn't work right on hardy without a patch as of now
[23:47] <d1gital> im using ndiswrapper on hardy and its not giving me trouble... is it a miracle or something?
[23:47] <joe1> patrickkva: do two partitions, one for home and one for root
[23:48] <user1> what are the default ports for ktorrent?      port:       and udp tracker port:    ?
[23:48] <VeN0mizer> nah, it's my broadcom card
[23:48] <joe1> d1gital: you must have patched it.....it's not working without patching
[23:48] <BarryToeman> patrickva: 100MB should be plenty
[23:48] <patrickva> Okay..well I'm doing this with a 1TB drive
[23:48] <joe1> 100 MB? what....
[23:48] <VeN0mizer> yeah there was a .sh file someone released for it...it may just be for broadcom or something
[23:48] <patrickva> And the last time I did it it gave the boot partition 2GBs
[23:48] <joe1> Patrick: 5 gigs for / and 20 gigs for /home
[23:48] <biabia> where is the theme chooser in xubuntu?
[23:49] <d1gital> tehe.. erm im not running hardy im running gutsy NEVERMIND lol
[23:49] <BarryToeman> patrickva: but I don't think you really need a boot partition unless you're using other file systems like JFS or XFS
[23:49] <Siph0n> Can anyone look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63230/ and tell me which line is my wireless card? Its an internal wireless card for my Gateway laptop. I am 99% Sure it is using the RTL8187 driver. Thanks!
[23:49] <dmsuperman> Jack_Sparrow, oddly, that give me a permissions error about /home/dmsuperman/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt
[23:49] <VeN0mizer> I hope the final version wont require a ghetto patch to work with ndiswrapper ;( I get rigging stuff with duct tape so to speak
[23:49] <joe1> they'll fix it
[23:49] <Jack_Sparrow> dmsuperman, let me run it.. one sec
[23:49] <Howitzer_> has anyone said anything to me?, because of lag(?), nothing came in -_-
[23:49] <VeN0mizer> get = hate*
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> dmsuperman, interesting.. it just worked here
[23:50] <benanzo> Strangelet: cd somedir/ ; for FILE in * ; do mv "${FILE}" "$(echo ${FILE} | tr [[:upper:]] [[:lower:]])" ; done
[23:50] <user1> what are the default ports for ktorrent?      port:       and udp tracker port:    ?
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> dmsuperman, did you make any changes to the command
[23:50] <BarryToeman> patrickva: ext2 would be fine for /boot
[23:50] <dmsuperman> bash: /home/dmsuperman/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt: Permission denied
[23:51] <hyperstream> Siph0n, none of them look like a wireless card to me
[23:51] <kdubois> user1: use tcpdump or wireshark when that program is on. you will be able to find out
[23:51] <joe1> Siph0n: what model gateway?
[23:51] <dmsuperman> Jack_Sparrow, I removed the first bit installing pastebinit, since i've already installed it
[23:51] <joe1> yeah that's what I just saw ;)
[23:51] <Jack_Sparrow> dmsuperman, did you paste it into a terminal just as I gave it..
[23:51] <joe1> none of those are wireless adapters
[23:51] <evilbug> what's going on dmsuperman
[23:51] <amenado> Siph0n-> you can narrow it down  lshw -C network
[23:51] <dmsuperman> evilbug, no clue, seems i don't have permission to write a file to my own desktop haha
[23:51] <Siph0n> joe1, MT6711
[23:51] <Jack_Sparrow> dmsuperman, it will bounce if it is already installed and not hurt anything
[23:51] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit
[23:52] <dmsuperman> cp: cannot create regular file `/home/dmsuperman/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt': Permission denied
[23:52] <evilbug> dmsuperman- then kick it or something :D
[23:52] <dmsuperman> evilbug, haha
[23:52] <evilbug> dmsuperman- it seemed to work for me.
[23:52] <dmsuperman> :s
[23:52] <hyperstream> i have dual monitors and when i try to play quake4 and so forth its spread half on 1 screen half on another how can  i get it to isolate to one side?\
[23:52] <evilbug> dmsuperman- but then _IT_ didn't work...hmm...no clue why.
[23:53] <VeN0mizer> I wonder something...If I was to build and sell "ubuntu computers", would there be anything special I'd need to do legally? like include some kind of license agreement from ubuntu? or just ship it as is? or what?
[23:53] <r00723r0> Is there any coherent way to make a complete xorg.conf automatically?
[23:53] <user1> kdubois ok. what are those. firewalls?
[23:53] <dmsuperman> drwxr-xr-x is the permissions on my desktop folder
[23:53] <Siph0n> amenado, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63234/ is the address with lshw -C network
[23:53] <joe1> lol that model is one of those like $500 laptops isn't it....
[23:53] <Siph0n> joe1, correct.... i believe i paid 499.99 for it lol
[23:53] <joe1> ....cheap is never good with electronics
[23:53] <r00723r0> Anyone?
[23:53] <joe1> it's worth paying $1000 for a nice system
[23:53] <joe1> that will last a three times longer
[23:53] <joe1> and make you happier along the way
[23:54] <Zelta> I have ubuntu and windows XP dual booted, using GRUB as a boot manager.  Ubuntu is located on one HD (D:) and windows the other one (C:).  if I reinstall windows how can I make it so I am able to use GRUB to either select windows or ubuntu?
[23:54] <dmsuperman> joel, $1000 is outrageous. that's why laptops fail. You can build an excellent PC for less than $500
[23:54] <joe1> for a laptop, $1000 is reasonable
[23:54] <user1> kdubois  i have cable. it was working before . now it is not
[23:54] <joe1> for a solid machine
[23:54] <dmsuperman> Zelta, just reinstall grub from the lviecd afterward
[23:54] <joe1> if you want a desktop, yeah $500 could do
[23:54] <kdubois> user1: they are packet sniffers. they keep a copy of every packet going out/coming in so you can look at them. you should be able to see what port traffic is going to.
[23:54] <Howitzer_> joe1, but if you go cheap on some parts, you can go "wild" on others
[23:54] <dmsuperman> joel, but for a computer in general, $1000 is for a highend
[23:54] <Siph0n> joe1, the wireless works, out of the box, ..... I just want to learn more about it lol...... and I do have a netgear wireless card also..... but i unplugged it
[23:54] <Zelta> dmsuperman: sudo apt-get install grub...?
[23:54] <joe1> lol high end!
[23:54] <joe1> hahahhaah
[23:54] <joe1> a grand high end
[23:54] <user1> kdubois ok
[23:54] <Zelta> err, reinstall*
[23:54] <user1> kdubois thx!
[23:55] <dmsuperman> joel, obviously you only buy computers, don't build them
[23:55] <dmsuperman> joel, you can build a very nice pc for a grand, easy
[23:55] <joe1> I have built them in the past, I don't have the time for it any more
[23:55] <Siph0n> everything works on the this laptop, perfectly :) but i am just confused on what chipset the wireless card uses....
[23:55] <joe1> yes for sure, not a laptop though
[23:55] <Howitzer_> aaaargh
[23:55] <dmsuperman> joel, of course you can always go DUAL SLI 9800 GTX and CORE 2 EXTREME and be stupid
[23:55] <Howitzer_> i can't get the ownership on my data partition right
[23:55] <SisyphusINC> im trying to setup ubuntu with a usb drive but i get the following when executing "sudo ./isotostick.sh ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso  /dev/sdb1" :./isotostick.sh [--reset-mbr] [--noverify] <isopath> <usbstick device>"
[23:55] <kdubois> also, user1: ubuntu in no way affects your cable router
[23:55] <SisyphusINC> any ideas?
[23:55] <dmsuperman> joel, i don't count laptops, for the same price you paid for your laptop you can easily get twice the performance
[23:56] <BarryToeman> Siph0n: you can try the commands "lspci" and "lshw" to get system info.
[23:56] <joe1> Sisyphus: I've set it up that way
[23:56] <dmsuperman> Zelta, google "ubuntu livecd grub", the first result is a good tutorial
[23:56] <dmsuperman> Zelta, it's on ubuntuforums.org
[23:56] <Zelta> ok
[23:56] <Zelta> thanks
[23:56] <dmsuperman> Zelta, no problems
[23:56] <CorbinFox> I am having a problem where the desktop freezes for a split second to a second every little bit.  there is sometihng logged in the Xorg log but I don't know how to figure out what is going on.  any help?
[23:56] <Howitzer_> i do "chmod 777 /media/documents/*" and i still can't do anything, i cant use chown because then i get 'operation not permitted'
[23:56] <Siph0n> BarryToeman, I have done both commands... I still dont know which chipset my wireless uses....
[23:56] <user1> kdubois i think the cable guys have stoped p2p apps?
[23:56] <VeN0mizer> superman, I used to build computers, but after buying a laptop I dunno if I'll ever go back to a desktop since I don't do any gaming anymore :P
[23:56] <joe1> exactly, I don't game either
[23:56] <joe1> I need functionality and mobility
[23:56] <Siph0n> BarryToeman, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63234/ is the output of both commands
[23:57] <joe1> and something that will last a long time
[23:57] <user1> kdubois is there any hting i can do from my side. use a 80  port?
[23:57] <VeN0mizer> joe1 I agree, I LOVE being able to browse the web when I take a crap, or go on vacation...it's nice :)
[23:57] <joe1> I paid $2200 for a laptop four years ago, broke three months before end of warranty (four year warranty) they gave me an upgrade for free
[23:57] <dmsuperman> VeN0mizer, I hate laptops. Outrageous double cost aside, the heat issues as well as general lack of power are an issue for me
[23:57] <joe1> that's why I love Dell
[23:57] <joe1> lol
[23:57] <mneptok> !offtopic
[23:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:57] <afewnips-o-ubunt> SisyphusINC, what i succeeded once: dd=bootfloppy.IMG of=/dev/sda1(128Meg USBSTICK)
[23:57] <kdubois> user1: im confused. you say your cable modem isnt working, yet i can still talk to you.
[23:57] <peter77> when I plug in a pair of headphones into the jack the speakers don't mute on my laptop, this is very annoying, is there a fix?
[23:58] <joe1> Peter: it's a toshiba right?
[23:58] <user1> kdubois modem is fine. ktorrent is not downloading
[23:58] <VeN0mizer> superman, that's why you shop for the "back to school" deals ;) and modern ones don't overheat if they are designed properly, and alienware makes pretty powerful laptops I think?
[23:58] <dmsuperman> peter77, not usually, it's usually up to the hardware, whether or not they use the headphone as an interupt or a secondary out
[23:58] <mneptok> peter77: that issue is solved for most audio chipsets in Hardy
[23:58] <BarryToeman> Siph0n: how odd.  lspci doesn't even show it
[23:58] <VeN0mizer> superman but I have a friend who's the same way, she HATES laptops lol
[23:58] <joe1> sisyphus: you still there?
[23:58] <dmsuperman> VeN0mizer, Alienware doesn't even exist in my mind. There's no way in hell I'll pay double or even triple the cost of a laptop, which is already double what it's worth. And back to school specials mean you have to rely on a certain time of year.
[23:59] <Siph0n> BarryToeman, yet it does work, cause i am online with it lol.... ok.... I guess I dont have to know what chipset it uses... was just curious,... also if i should be using a different driver than the rtl8187 one
[23:59] <VeN0mizer> I just like the portability I think :/...after a week of wardriving like a script kiddie, that got old though I must admit
[23:59] <mneptok> VeN0mizer / dmsuperman: please move this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:59] <dmsuperman> mneptok, sure thing :)
[23:59] <Howitzer_> can anyone help me with my permissions problem?
[23:59] <mneptok> thanks
[23:59] <VeN0mizer> mneptok yes sir ;)
[23:59] <mneptok> "sir" is my father.
[23:59] <peter77> mneptok, I might download the live cd and take a look but I am unable to risk my systems stability atm due to coursework