mpalatnik | Hi -- I'm trying to set up VNC through SSH on my xubuntu box but i'm running into the grey screen error | 02:39 |
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mpalatnik | i've been working on it for hours but i can't seem to find the problem despite the documentation online.. can someone look at it with me? | 02:39 |
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mpalatnik | okay | 03:04 |
mpalatnik | so now im past the grey screen | 03:04 |
mpalatnik | but all im getting is a single terminal window | 03:04 |
mpalatnik | whats the deal with that | 03:04 |
mpalatnik | haha | 03:04 |
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charding | Where can I find a searchable software catalogue for 8.04? | 03:14 |
jhuty | hihi. I just installed xubuntu and my mouse is clicking twice instead of once when i click it. any ideas on how to fix it? | 03:17 |
Stroganoff | charding: http://packages.ubuntu.com | 03:27 |
gaurdro | anyone know of an exif reader that can pick up the tag of where an image was taken? | 05:27 |
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nickxoo3 | hello | 05:37 |
nickxoo3 | anyone have any recommendations for a way to setup an automatic wireless connection on xubuntu feisty? | 05:37 |
gaurdro | once you've connected to a network it should try and reconnect to that network once again. | 05:39 |
nickxoo3 | for some reason i have to manually go to it and enter the info every time, keyring doesnt work it like on gnome | 05:40 |
gaurdro | do you have the gnome keyring installed? In my setup it uses tha t. | 05:41 |
nickxoo3 | and that's with knetwork manager which i installed, i couldnt find the network manager that gnome uses | 05:41 |
nickxoo3 | it's not in the tray and i cant locate it in menus | 05:44 |
nickxoo3 | gonna try something brb | 05:45 |
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totalwormface | nickxoo3: did you find xfapplet in your panel? | 06:12 |
totalwormface | it allows you to add gnome applets to your xfce panel | 06:14 |
nickxoo3 | no, how do i use that? | 06:22 |
totalwormface | rightclick on your panel | 06:22 |
totalwormface | add new item, then add xfapplet | 06:22 |
totalwormface | after that you can choose which gnome applet you want to add to your panel, maybe the network manager hides there :] | 06:23 |
nickxoo3 | ok, im on ubuntu right now, ill switch over to xubuntu and let you know how it goes :) | 06:23 |
totalwormface | :] | 06:23 |
* totalwormface doesn't know a single bit about wifi btw, so if it doesn't help, that's all i got :P | 06:24 | |
nickxoo3 | no luck :( but thanks anyway :) | 06:43 |
totalwormface | :P | 06:43 |
soulfreshner | I have an Acer travelmate 260 and my Fn key is not working | 11:36 |
soulfreshner | using gutsy (freshly upgraded from feisty) | 11:37 |
soulfreshner | anybody? | 12:05 |
soulfreshner | how do I make the Fn key work | 12:05 |
soulfreshner | ? | 12:05 |
totalwormface | maybe you can find something in keyboard shortcuts | 12:06 |
* totalwormface not on gnome right now :P | 12:06 | |
soulfreshner | I'm using xfce myself... | 12:07 |
soulfreshner | but even if I set up a shortcut, it's as if the Fn key is not even registered | 12:08 |
* totalwormface has to check which channel he types things in :P | 12:08 | |
soulfreshner | if I :) | 12:08 |
soulfreshner | maybe I should just use gnome... | 12:09 |
* totalwormface wouldn't know | 12:09 | |
totalwormface | it works under gnome? | 12:09 |
soulfreshner | but it's an old PC - it's struggling as it is with the 256M ram :( | 12:09 |
soulfreshner | I don't know | 12:10 |
soulfreshner | I haven't tried it | 12:10 |
totalwormface | hm | 12:10 |
soulfreshner | but I'm trying not to overload it -- it's slow as it is | 12:10 |
totalwormface | running gnome on such a machine is not going to work smooth :P | 12:10 |
soulfreshner | maybe something in xorg settings? | 12:11 |
* totalwormface is on a 256M ram computer right now too, and it's saddening | 12:11 | |
totalwormface | could be, maybe you'll find something on the forums if you search on the keyboard model | 12:11 |
soulfreshner | *sigh* | 12:15 |
soulfreshner | maybe I'll just install puppy or something | 12:15 |
soulfreshner | or accept the fact that this laptop should just retire... | 12:16 |
s_arts | soulfreshner: I have a laptop with xfce on it, featuring only 128MB of ram. | 12:17 |
s_arts | works a bit slow, but otherwise fine :) | 12:18 |
s_arts | the speed is mostly due to the P3 and the type of memory since it isn't swapping at all. | 12:18 |
soulfreshner | mine was also working until about 2 minutes ago... I think it just gave up on me | 12:18 |
soulfreshner | it's not turning on anymore :( | 12:19 |
s_arts | bummer | 12:19 |
Athalus | Hello! | 12:34 |
totalwormface | hey there | 12:35 |
Athalus | I want ask something. I Download cool theme but how I can use it? I'm using xubuntu 7.04 | 12:36 |
totalwormface | extract it into ~/.themes | 12:36 |
Athalus | That's it? | 12:36 |
totalwormface | that's it | 12:37 |
Athalus | Wow! Sorry I even ask. | 12:37 |
totalwormface | then you should be able to choose it under userinterface preferences | 12:37 |
Athalus | OK | 12:38 |
Athalus | One question more. Where I find that ~/.themes | 12:49 |
gabkdlly | Athalus: hi | 12:53 |
gabkdlly | you can open the file manager and tell it to show you hidden files and directories | 12:54 |
Athalus | ok | 12:55 |
gabkdlly | or you can open a terminal (also called a console sometimes) and type "ls -a" without the quotes | 12:55 |
gabkdlly | then change into that directory with "cd .themes" | 12:56 |
Athalus | Do you mean "ls-l" whit out quotes? | 12:56 |
gabkdlly | actually, you don't to execute "ls" in oder to execute "cd", I just thought I would make you a little familiar with both ;) | 12:57 |
gabkdlly | you can do that too "ls -lah" | 12:57 |
gabkdlly | you can combine multiple options in a single command | 12:57 |
gabkdlly | often, the options are documented, execute "man ls" | 12:58 |
gabkdlly | or more generally "man <command>" | 12:59 |
totalwormface | :P | 12:59 |
gabkdlly | :-D | 12:59 |
gabkdlly | later, bye | 12:59 |
Athalus | I'm totally out! | 12:59 |
totalwormface | bye | 12:59 |
Athalus | bye | 12:59 |
totalwormface | Athalus: are you confused now or do you manage? :P | 13:00 |
Athalus | ? | 13:00 |
totalwormface | does it work or not :] | 13:00 |
Athalus | Can you only tell me where is that themes order | 13:01 |
totalwormface | well, open the file manager, click on 'view' and then 'show hidden files' | 13:02 |
Athalus | yes | 13:02 |
totalwormface | just copy/paste the theme in the .themes folder | 13:02 |
totalwormface | then rightclick it and extract it in that folder | 13:03 |
Athalus | there is no .themes folder | 13:03 |
totalwormface | then go to the xfce menu, hit settings, then user interface settings and it should be there | 13:03 |
totalwormface | then make one :] | 13:03 |
totalwormface | right click anywhere in the filebrowser, say create folder and name it .themes | 13:04 |
Athalus | I'm in finland and I use Finnish mode | 13:04 |
totalwormface | ahhh | 13:05 |
MrFawkes | Uh, hi there. I'm trying to set up epiphany as the default browser on xubuntu. I did it in galternatives and xfce preferred applications, but when I click on links in, say, synaptic, I still get firefox. Any ideas? | 16:06 |
mikubuntu | i am having trouble with 'unmet' dependencies, and so i cannot install or remove any software. in the terminal i just ran 'sudo apt-get install -f.' now i get this message: ...packages were automatically installed and no longer needed: libgnet2.0-0 skype-common dvb-utils | 16:44 |
mikubuntu | Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. my question is, what is the exact commant line to execute? | 16:44 |
Stroganoff | sudo apt-get autoremove | 16:45 |
mikubuntu | stroganoff, 'sudo apt-get autoremove libgnet2.0-0 skype-common dvb-utils', or just 'sudo apt-get autoremove' ... ? | 16:47 |
Stroganoff | the latter | 16:47 |
mikubuntu | Stroganoff, i seem to be in a loop. i ran the autoremove, and i go back to: You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. | 16:52 |
mikubuntu | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 16:52 |
mikubuntu | skype: Depends: skype-common (= 2.0.0.43-0medibuntu2) but 2.0.0.68-0medibuntu0.7.10.1 is installed | 16:52 |
mikubuntu | E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. | 16:52 |
mikubuntu | mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ apt-get -f install | 16:52 |
mikubuntu | E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) | 16:52 |
mikubuntu | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? | 16:53 |
TheSheep | mikubuntu: close synaptic | 16:53 |
TheSheep | mikubuntu: and use sudo | 16:53 |
mikubuntu | i did close the update manager, and synaptic was never open | 16:54 |
Stroganoff | sudo apt-get -f install | 16:54 |
Stroganoff | "are you root?" means you forgot sudo | 16:54 |
mikubuntu | oh, i see, you're right i omitted sudo.... oooooOOOOoooops. | 16:55 |
mikubuntu | dang it, still getting stuck. hope this isn't too much copy for the channel, seems slow right now so i hope not. can you translate this?: mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get -f install | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | Reading package lists... Done | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | Building dependency tree | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | Reading state information... Done | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | Correcting dependencies... Done | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | libgnet2.0-0 skype-common dvb-utils | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | The following extra packages will be installed: | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | skype | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | The following packages will be upgraded: | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | skype | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | Need to get 0B/15.5MB of archives. | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | After unpacking 6595kB of additional disk space will be used. | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | Do you want to continue [Y/n]? sudo apt-get autoremove | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | Abort. | 16:58 |
mikubuntu | mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ | 16:59 |
Stroganoff | lol | 16:59 |
Stroganoff | Do you want to continue [Y/n] | 16:59 |
Stroganoff | you should read the output... | 16:59 |
Stroganoff | big Y means "yes" is default, so just hit return | 16:59 |
mikubuntu | i did read the output. but see what happens when i follow? Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y | 17:02 |
mikubuntu | (Reading database ... 140538 files and directories currently installed.) | 17:02 |
mikubuntu | Preparing to replace skype 2.0.0.43-0medibuntu2 (using .../skype_2.0.0.68-1_i386.deb) ... | 17:02 |
mikubuntu | Unpacking replacement skype ... | 17:02 |
mikubuntu | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/skype_2.0.0.68-1_i386.deb (--unpack): | 17:02 |
mikubuntu | trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/skype.png', which is also in package skype-common | 17:02 |
mikubuntu | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) | 17:02 |
mikubuntu | Errors were encountered while processing: | 17:02 |
mikubuntu | /var/cache/apt/archives/skype_2.0.0.68-1_i386.deb | 17:02 |
mikubuntu | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 17:02 |
mikubuntu | mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ | 17:02 |
Stroganoff | mikubuntu run this (at your own risk) | 17:07 |
Stroganoff | sudo dpkg --force-all --purge --remove skype skype-common | 17:07 |
mikubuntu | sorry, my chatzilla crashed (firefox crashed and took chatzilla with it) | 17:11 |
Stroganoff | mikubuntu run this (at your own risk) | 17:12 |
Stroganoff | sudo dpkg --force-all --purge --remove skype skype-common | 17:12 |
mikubuntu | what's the risk? | 17:13 |
mikubuntu | i get this: mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-all --purge --remove skype skype-common | 17:15 |
mikubuntu | dpkg: conflicting actions -r (--remove) and -P (--purge) | 17:15 |
mikubuntu | Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*]; | 17:15 |
mikubuntu | Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management; | 17:15 |
mikubuntu | Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values; | 17:15 |
Stroganoff | ok | 17:15 |
mikubuntu | Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options; | 17:15 |
mikubuntu | Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files; | 17:15 |
mikubuntu | Type dpkg --license for copyright license and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*]. | 17:15 |
Stroganoff | sudo dpkg --force-all --remove skype skype-common | 17:15 |
mikubuntu | Options marked [*] produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' ! | 17:15 |
mikubuntu | mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ | 17:15 |
mikubuntu | i get this: mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-all --remove skype skype-common | 17:16 |
mikubuntu | (Reading database ... 140537 files and directories currently installed.) | 17:16 |
mikubuntu | Removing skype ... | 17:16 |
mikubuntu | Removing skype-common ... | 17:16 |
mikubuntu | mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ | 17:16 |
mikubuntu | stroganoff, so am i back to where i should be? can i run sudo apt-get update now? | 17:18 |
mikubuntu | i ran sudo apt-get update, and i get this (after a lot of other output): W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com gutsy/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy_partner_binary-i386_Packages) | 17:20 |
mikubuntu | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems | 17:20 |
mikubuntu | mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ | 17:20 |
Stroganoff | sudo apt-get install skype | 17:21 |
mikubuntu | stroganoff, ok, i think that completed ok. now to update general updates is it sudo apt-get install upgrade? | 17:26 |
Stroganoff | sudo apt-get upgrade | 17:26 |
Stroganoff | and if you want to update the kernel: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 17:26 |
mikubuntu | that would up me to hardy beta, wouldn't it? | 17:27 |
Stroganoff | no | 17:27 |
Stroganoff | you'd have to change sources.list for that (or use upgrade manager / synaptic) | 17:27 |
mikubuntu | do you recommend it? | 17:28 |
Stroganoff | hardy? well | 17:28 |
Stroganoff | depends | 17:28 |
mikubuntu | no, the kernel upgrade | 17:28 |
Stroganoff | yes | 17:29 |
mikubuntu | ok, i do it then | 17:29 |
mikubuntu | does this mean kernel was already updated?: mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 17:30 |
mikubuntu | Reading package lists... Done | 17:30 |
mikubuntu | Building dependency tree | 17:30 |
mikubuntu | Reading state information... Done | 17:30 |
mikubuntu | Calculating upgrade... Done | 17:30 |
mikubuntu | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 17:30 |
mikubuntu | mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ | 17:30 |
mikubuntu | if it is it's strange, because that unmet dependency problem has been keeping me from updating for weeks now ... | 17:31 |
Stroganoff | kernel should be up to date | 17:32 |
Stroganoff | run: uname -a | 17:32 |
Stroganoff | kernel should be 2.6.22-14 | 17:32 |
mikubuntu | ok, well, thanks ... i appreciate all your help. this is moms computer and i'm going out of town for a few days, glad to leave it in good condition | 17:33 |
mikubuntu | ... just type 'uname -a' into term? | 17:34 |
Stroganoff | yep | 17:34 |
mikubuntu | mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ uname -a | 17:34 |
mikubuntu | Linux marybuntu-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux | 17:34 |
Stroganoff | ok | 17:34 |
mikubuntu | signing off, thanks again guys | 17:35 |
Legendre | hi folks.. what's the lowdown on Atheros wifi support in xubuntu? | 18:19 |
Legendre | (7.10) | 18:19 |
Stroganoff | !wifi | 18:20 |
ubotu | Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 18:20 |
oem | anybody know why i might be having these probs? the screen on this box keeps going haywire. i'm guessing its a video card problem, cause right now i have a beautiful clean screen, but every now and then the screen just seems to crash, and i have to restart to get it back. also, i've been trying to open a terminal, and evry time i do, i get an x restart. | 18:21 |
Stroganoff | oem what display driver are you using? | 18:22 |
Stroganoff | see Section "Device" | 18:23 |
oem | stroganoff, how do i find out? | 18:23 |
Stroganoff | in /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 18:23 |
oem | ok | 18:23 |
oem | dOh! how do i do that? | 18:23 |
Legendre | Ok, it appears that I need the madwifi stuff, it's an Atheros 5212 chipset.. is there an apt-gettable package? | 18:23 |
Stroganoff | oem: sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 18:24 |
oem | you helpd me awhile ago with mom's computer, now i'm on another | 18:24 |
oem | ah, but here's the problem ... i can't seem to open a terminal. every time i click on terminal, screen goes black and i come back to login screen... | 18:25 |
Stroganoff | ok | 18:25 |
Stroganoff | i know this one :D | 18:25 |
Stroganoff | alt+f2 -> xterm | 18:25 |
oem | :) | 18:25 |
oem | :( don't understand | 18:25 |
Stroganoff | login | 18:25 |
gaurdro | but what would cause the X-server or something on top of it, to crash? | 18:26 |
Stroganoff | then press alt+f2 and launch xterm | 18:26 |
oem | i don't get it. how? | 18:26 |
Stroganoff | xfce4-terminal crashes the xserver on some rare graphics cards. | 18:26 |
Stroganoff | you have to change DefaultDepth to 16 | 18:26 |
Stroganoff | login at the login screen. when the desktop is loaded, press Alt+F2 | 18:27 |
Stroganoff | this show the "Run..." prompt | 18:27 |
Stroganoff | type "xterm" to launch xterm | 18:27 |
Stroganoff | on the other hand you might want to try my minimal ubuntu system if you mom's computer is really slow | 18:28 |
Stroganoff | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741631 | 18:28 |
oem | omg, wait, i have to write this down. i will prolly lose chatzilla in this process | 18:28 |
Stroganoff | anyway, open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf with mousepad (text editor) and set "DefaultDepth" to 16 (instead of 24) | 18:29 |
Legendre | Anyone? Where to get madwifi for 7.10? | 18:30 |
Legendre | compile it? apt-get it from ______? | 18:31 |
Stroganoff | Legendre madwifi is included into wifi | 18:31 |
Stroganoff | http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu | 18:31 |
Legendre | fwiw, it's not in my install of 7.10.. not that I can find. | 18:31 |
Stroganoff | i mean included into Ubuntu | 18:31 |
Legendre | I'll give that a look, thanks. | 18:31 |
Stroganoff | have you installed linux-restricted-modules | 18:32 |
Stroganoff | ? | 18:32 |
Legendre | "In case you did a manual install, try installing linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and that’s it." | 18:33 |
Legendre | actually, I'm trying to fix my boss's eff-up ;) | 18:33 |
Stroganoff | Oo | 18:33 |
Legendre | so I just apt-get the lin-res-mod | 18:33 |
Stroganoff | yep | 18:34 |
Legendre | where is it, multi / uni? | 18:34 |
Stroganoff | its in "restricted" | 18:34 |
Stroganoff | see: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=linux-restricted-modules | 18:34 |
slow-motion | hi | 18:36 |
gaurdro | hello | 18:36 |
Legendre | Stroganoff - ok, hopefully my last idiot question.. how do I allow 'restricted' in sources.list? | 18:40 |
Stroganoff | Legendre: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted | 18:44 |
Stroganoff | replace de. with us. or something | 18:44 |
Stroganoff | or use the source management in synaptic.. | 18:44 |
Legendre | ok, I just added a new line with .../ gutsy restricted | 18:45 |
Legendre | and it seems to have worked | 18:45 |
Legendre | appreciate all this... | 18:46 |
boolka | is the only difference between ubuntu and xubuntu is the gnome ? | 20:14 |
cody-somerville | The default application selection is the difference | 20:14 |
boolka | bit the core is the same? | 20:15 |
cody-somerville | yes | 20:18 |
boolka | is xubuntu much more lighter then ubuntu? | 20:22 |
zoredache | somewhat | 20:27 |
Stroganoff | boolka icewm is MUCH more lighter... | 20:33 |
Stroganoff | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741631 | 20:33 |
boolka | thanks Stroganoff | 20:35 |
boolka | How come when I connect my laptop to lcd monitor via VGA cable it works. But when I use a VGA to RCA/svideo converter cable, it dont work? Do i have to modify the x.org file? | 20:35 |
Helsu | Is there no 64-bit Xubuntu? | 20:44 |
Helsu | Ah, nevermind. | 20:45 |
zoredache | yes | 20:45 |
Helsu | I am generally new to Linux, will Xubuntu run stable (the desktop edition) enough for a home server? | 20:46 |
Helsu | It will just be used for filesharing, printer sharing and BitTorrent. | 20:46 |
zoredache | yes, it will be fine... I suspect I would go with an lts release though... Of course I tend to use debian for my servers | 20:47 |
Helsu | Well I tried that non graphical stuff | 20:49 |
Helsu | it just doesn't work for me, I don't think the guiders are easy enough | 20:49 |
Helsu | I didn't know what to do after making an account, it was frustrating | 20:50 |
Helsu | so I'm going the easy way | 20:50 |
Helsu | can i maintain it using a remote desktop from windows easily? | 20:51 |
Stroganoff | Helsu you an maintain using vnc | 20:54 |
Stroganoff | but a server is way cooler (and faster if ur low on ram) without a GUI | 20:55 |
Stroganoff | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | 20:55 |
Stroganoff | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto | 20:55 |
Helsu | It will be hot anyway, it will run Folding@Home | 20:55 |
Helsu | by the way a general question | 21:00 |
Helsu | i've always wondered this | 21:00 |
Helsu | when companies order a huge server | 21:00 |
Helsu | e.g a webhost | 21:00 |
Helsu | did they buy one with a GPU? | 21:01 |
Helsu | how do they set it up for the first itme? | 21:01 |
Helsu | what is the alternate edition? | 21:03 |
zoredache | Helsu: the altnernate edition has a console based installer that gives you far more control | 21:11 |
zoredache | it also tends to work better on difificult systems | 21:11 |
Helsu | Not far more control for ME, though. | 21:11 |
zoredache | ? | 21:12 |
Helsu | If you are new to Linux it doesn't really give you more control | 21:14 |
Helsu | It's like giving you a 1000-key keyboard with nothing on them, saying it gives you more control because you have a button for everything. | 21:14 |
Helsu | technically it gives you more control but not practically | 21:16 |
Stroganoff | especially if you dont even try.. | 21:17 |
Helsu | well, i am the man in the street | 21:20 |
Helsu | if you want your distro popular you need to make it better for the man in the street | 21:21 |
Helsu | linux generally isn't | 21:21 |
zoredache | that is a very challenging request Helsu | 21:21 |
zoredache | most of the developers that really love Linux, love it because it gives them tons of control | 21:22 |
Helsu | i just think "you" should make a windows home server -windows +linux | 21:22 |
Helsu | MS has really made it simple there | 21:23 |
Helsu | anyway i'm off, it is late in my timezone | 21:24 |
arualavi | MS don't make it simple, they make decisions for you, that's different. | 21:25 |
arualavi | */make/take apologies for my english | 21:26 |
Stroganoff | never mind | 21:27 |
slow-motion | n8 | 21:40 |
coach_z | I just installed xubuntu and i have two 'drives' mounted on my HD that are not related to any drives that i have and they also cannot be opened or mounted | 23:11 |
zoredache | coach_z: do you have any usb devices attached that might appear as a drive? Do you have a media reader that doesn't have any flash cards in? | 23:16 |
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