mpalatnikHi -- I'm trying to set up VNC through SSH on my xubuntu box but i'm running into the grey screen error02:39
mpalatniki've been working on it for hours but i can't seem to find the problem despite the documentation online.. can someone look at it with me?02:39
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mpalatnikso now im past the grey screen03:04
mpalatnikbut all im getting is a single terminal window03:04
mpalatnikwhats the deal with that03:04
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chardingWhere can I find a searchable software catalogue for 8.04?03:14
jhutyhihi. I just installed xubuntu and my mouse is clicking twice instead of once when i click it. any ideas on how to fix it?03:17
Stroganoffcharding: http://packages.ubuntu.com03:27
gaurdroanyone know of an exif reader that can pick up the tag of where an image was taken?05:27
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nickxoo3anyone have any recommendations for a way to setup an automatic wireless connection on xubuntu feisty?05:37
gaurdroonce you've connected to  a network it should try and reconnect to that network once again.05:39
nickxoo3for some reason i have to manually go to it and enter the info every time, keyring doesnt work it like on gnome05:40
gaurdrodo you have the gnome keyring installed?  In my setup it uses tha t.05:41
nickxoo3and that's with knetwork manager which i installed, i couldnt find the network manager that gnome uses05:41
nickxoo3it's not in the tray and i cant locate it in menus05:44
nickxoo3gonna try something brb05:45
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totalwormfacenickxoo3: did you find xfapplet in your panel?06:12
totalwormfaceit allows you to add gnome applets to your xfce panel06:14
nickxoo3no, how do i use that?06:22
totalwormfacerightclick on your panel06:22
totalwormfaceadd new item, then add xfapplet06:22
totalwormfaceafter that you can choose which gnome applet you want to add to your panel, maybe the network manager hides there :]06:23
nickxoo3ok, im on ubuntu right now, ill switch over to xubuntu and let you know how it goes :)06:23
* totalwormface doesn't know a single bit about wifi btw, so if it doesn't help, that's all i got :P06:24
nickxoo3no luck :( but thanks anyway :)06:43
soulfreshnerI have an Acer travelmate 260 and my Fn key is not working11:36
soulfreshnerusing gutsy (freshly upgraded from feisty)11:37
soulfreshnerhow do I make the Fn key work12:05
totalwormfacemaybe you can find something in keyboard shortcuts12:06
* totalwormface not on gnome right now :P12:06
soulfreshnerI'm using xfce myself...12:07
soulfreshnerbut even if I set up a shortcut, it's as if the Fn key is not even registered12:08
* totalwormface has to check which channel he types things in :P12:08
soulfreshnerif I :)12:08
soulfreshnermaybe I should just use gnome...12:09
* totalwormface wouldn't know12:09
totalwormfaceit works under gnome?12:09
soulfreshnerbut it's an old PC - it's struggling as it is with the 256M ram :(12:09
soulfreshnerI don't know12:10
soulfreshnerI haven't tried it12:10
soulfreshnerbut I'm trying not to overload it -- it's slow as it is12:10
totalwormfacerunning gnome on such a machine is not going to work smooth :P12:10
soulfreshnermaybe something in xorg settings?12:11
* totalwormface is on a 256M ram computer right now too, and it's saddening12:11
totalwormfacecould be, maybe you'll find something on the forums if you search on the keyboard model12:11
soulfreshnermaybe I'll just install puppy or something12:15
soulfreshneror accept the fact that this laptop should just retire...12:16
s_artssoulfreshner: I have a laptop with xfce on it, featuring only 128MB of ram.12:17
s_artsworks a bit slow, but otherwise fine :)12:18
s_artsthe speed is mostly due to the P3 and the type of memory since it isn't swapping at all.12:18
soulfreshnermine was also working until about 2 minutes ago... I think it just gave up on me12:18
soulfreshnerit's not turning on anymore :(12:19
totalwormfacehey there12:35
AthalusI want ask something. I Download cool theme but how I can use it? I'm using xubuntu 7.0412:36
totalwormfaceextract it into ~/.themes12:36
AthalusThat's it?12:36
totalwormfacethat's it12:37
AthalusWow! Sorry I even ask.12:37
totalwormfacethen you should be able to choose it under userinterface preferences12:37
AthalusOne question more. Where I find that ~/.themes12:49
gabkdllyAthalus: hi12:53
gabkdllyyou can open the file manager and tell it to show you hidden files and directories12:54
gabkdllyor you can open a terminal (also called a console sometimes) and type "ls -a" without the quotes12:55
gabkdllythen change into that directory with "cd .themes"12:56
AthalusDo you mean "ls-l" whit out quotes?12:56
gabkdllyactually, you don't to execute "ls" in oder to execute "cd",  I just thought I would make you a little familiar with both ;)12:57
gabkdllyyou can do that too "ls -lah"12:57
gabkdllyyou can combine multiple options in a single command12:57
gabkdllyoften, the options are documented, execute "man ls"12:58
gabkdllyor more generally "man <command>"12:59
gabkdllylater, bye12:59
AthalusI'm totally out!12:59
totalwormfaceAthalus: are you confused now or do you manage? :P13:00
totalwormfacedoes it work or not :]13:00
AthalusCan you only tell me where is that themes order13:01
totalwormfacewell, open the file manager, click on 'view' and then 'show hidden files'13:02
totalwormfacejust copy/paste the theme in the .themes folder13:02
totalwormfacethen rightclick it and extract it in that folder13:03
Athalusthere is no .themes folder13:03
totalwormfacethen go to the xfce menu, hit settings, then user interface settings and it should be there13:03
totalwormfacethen make one :]13:03
totalwormfaceright click anywhere in the filebrowser, say create folder and name it .themes13:04
AthalusI'm in finland and I use Finnish mode13:04
MrFawkesUh, hi there. I'm trying to set up epiphany as the default browser on xubuntu. I did it in galternatives and xfce preferred applications, but when I click on links in, say, synaptic, I still get firefox. Any ideas?16:06
mikubuntui am having trouble with 'unmet' dependencies, and so i cannot install or remove any software.  in the terminal i just ran 'sudo apt-get install -f.'  now i get this message: ...packages were automatically installed and no longer needed:  libgnet2.0-0 skype-common dvb-utils16:44
mikubuntuUse 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.  my question is, what is the exact commant line to execute?16:44
Stroganoffsudo apt-get autoremove16:45
mikubuntustroganoff, 'sudo apt-get autoremove libgnet2.0-0 skype-common dvb-utils', or just 'sudo apt-get autoremove' ... ?16:47
Stroganoffthe latter16:47
mikubuntuStroganoff, i seem to be in a loop.  i ran the autoremove, and i go back to: You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.16:52
mikubuntuThe following packages have unmet dependencies:16:52
mikubuntu  skype: Depends: skype-common (= but is installed16:52
mikubuntuE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.16:52
mikubuntumikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ apt-get -f install16:52
mikubuntuE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)16:52
mikubuntuE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?16:53
TheSheepmikubuntu: close synaptic16:53
TheSheepmikubuntu: and use sudo16:53
mikubuntui did close the update manager, and synaptic was never open16:54
Stroganoffsudo apt-get -f install16:54
Stroganoff"are you root?" means you forgot sudo16:54
mikubuntuoh, i see, you're right i omitted sudo.... oooooOOOOoooops.16:55
mikubuntudang it, still getting stuck.  hope this isn't too much copy for the channel, seems slow right now so i hope not.  can you translate this?: mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get -f install16:58
mikubuntuReading package lists... Done16:58
mikubuntuBuilding dependency tree16:58
mikubuntuReading state information... Done16:58
mikubuntuCorrecting dependencies... Done16:58
mikubuntuThe following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:16:58
mikubuntu  libgnet2.0-0 skype-common dvb-utils16:58
mikubuntuUse 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.16:58
mikubuntuThe following extra packages will be installed:16:58
mikubuntu  skype16:58
mikubuntuThe following packages will be upgraded:16:58
mikubuntu  skype16:58
mikubuntu1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.16:58
mikubuntuNeed to get 0B/15.5MB of archives.16:58
mikubuntuAfter unpacking 6595kB of additional disk space will be used.16:58
mikubuntuDo you want to continue [Y/n]? sudo apt-get autoremove16:58
StroganoffDo you want to continue [Y/n]16:59
Stroganoffyou should read the output...16:59
Stroganoffbig Y means "yes" is default, so just hit return16:59
mikubuntui did read the output.  but see what happens when i follow? Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y17:02
mikubuntu(Reading database ... 140538 files and directories currently installed.)17:02
mikubuntuPreparing to replace skype (using .../skype_2.0.0.68-1_i386.deb) ...17:02
mikubuntuUnpacking replacement skype ...17:02
mikubuntudpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/skype_2.0.0.68-1_i386.deb (--unpack):17:02
mikubuntu trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/skype.png', which is also in package skype-common17:02
mikubuntudpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)17:02
mikubuntuErrors were encountered while processing:17:02
mikubuntu /var/cache/apt/archives/skype_2.0.0.68-1_i386.deb17:02
mikubuntuE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)17:02
Stroganoffmikubuntu run this (at your own risk)17:07
Stroganoffsudo dpkg --force-all --purge --remove skype skype-common17:07
mikubuntusorry, my chatzilla crashed (firefox crashed and took chatzilla with it)17:11
Stroganoffmikubuntu run this (at your own risk)17:12
Stroganoffsudo dpkg --force-all --purge --remove skype skype-common17:12
mikubuntuwhat's the risk?17:13
mikubuntui get this: mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-all --purge --remove skype skype-common17:15
mikubuntudpkg: conflicting actions -r (--remove) and -P (--purge)17:15
mikubuntuType dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*];17:15
mikubuntuUse `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;17:15
mikubuntuType dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;17:15
mikubuntuType dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;17:15
mikubuntuType dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;17:15
mikubuntuType dpkg --license for copyright license and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*].17:15
Stroganoffsudo dpkg --force-all --remove skype skype-common17:15
mikubuntuOptions marked [*] produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' !17:15
mikubuntui get this: mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-all --remove skype skype-common17:16
mikubuntu(Reading database ... 140537 files and directories currently installed.)17:16
mikubuntuRemoving skype ...17:16
mikubuntuRemoving skype-common ...17:16
mikubuntustroganoff, so am i back to where i should be?  can i run sudo apt-get update now?17:18
mikubuntui ran sudo apt-get update, and i get this (after a lot of other output): W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com gutsy/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy_partner_binary-i386_Packages)17:20
mikubuntuW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems17:20
Stroganoffsudo apt-get install skype17:21
mikubuntustroganoff, ok, i think that completed ok.  now to update general updates is it sudo apt-get install upgrade?17:26
Stroganoffsudo apt-get upgrade17:26
Stroganoffand if you want to update the kernel: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade17:26
mikubuntuthat would up me to hardy beta, wouldn't it?17:27
Stroganoffyou'd have to change sources.list for that (or use upgrade manager / synaptic)17:27
mikubuntudo you recommend it?17:28
Stroganoffhardy? well17:28
mikubuntuno, the kernel upgrade17:28
mikubuntuok, i do it then17:29
mikubuntudoes this mean kernel was already updated?: mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade17:30
mikubuntuReading package lists... Done17:30
mikubuntuBuilding dependency tree17:30
mikubuntuReading state information... Done17:30
mikubuntuCalculating upgrade... Done17:30
mikubuntu0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.17:30
mikubuntuif it is it's strange, because that unmet dependency problem has been keeping me from updating for weeks now ...17:31
Stroganoffkernel should be up to date17:32
Stroganoffrun: uname -a17:32
Stroganoffkernel should be 2.6.22-1417:32
mikubuntuok, well, thanks ... i appreciate all your help.  this is moms computer and i'm going out of town for a few days, glad to leave it in good condition17:33
mikubuntu...  just type 'uname -a' into term?17:34
mikubuntumikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ uname -a17:34
mikubuntuLinux marybuntu-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux17:34
mikubuntusigning off, thanks again guys17:35
Legendrehi folks.. what's the lowdown on Atheros wifi support in xubuntu?18:19
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs18:20
oemanybody know why i might be having these probs?  the screen on this box keeps going haywire.  i'm guessing its a video card problem, cause right now i have a beautiful clean screen, but every now and then the screen just seems to crash, and i have to restart to get it back.  also, i've been trying to open a terminal, and evry time i do, i get an x restart.18:21
Stroganoffoem what display driver are you using?18:22
Stroganoffsee Section "Device"18:23
oemstroganoff, how do i find out?18:23
Stroganoffin /etc/X11/xorg.conf18:23
oemdOh! how do i do that?18:23
LegendreOk, it appears that I need the madwifi stuff, it's an Atheros 5212 chipset.. is there an apt-gettable package?18:23
Stroganoffoem: sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf18:24
oemyou helpd me awhile ago with mom's computer, now i'm on another18:24
oemah, but here's the problem ... i can't seem to open a terminal.  every time i click on terminal, screen goes black and i come back to login screen...18:25
Stroganoffi know this one :D18:25
Stroganoffalt+f2 -> xterm18:25
oem:( don't understand18:25
gaurdrobut what would cause the X-server or something on top of it, to crash?18:26
Stroganoffthen press alt+f2 and launch xterm18:26
oemi don't get it.  how?18:26
Stroganoffxfce4-terminal crashes the xserver on some rare graphics cards.18:26
Stroganoffyou have to change DefaultDepth to 1618:26
Stroganofflogin at the login screen. when the desktop is loaded, press Alt+F218:27
Stroganoffthis show the "Run..." prompt18:27
Stroganofftype "xterm" to launch xterm18:27
Stroganoffon the other hand you might want to try my minimal ubuntu system if you mom's computer is really slow18:28
oemomg, wait, i have to write this down.  i will prolly lose chatzilla in this process18:28
Stroganoffanyway, open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf with mousepad (text editor) and set "DefaultDepth" to 16 (instead of 24)18:29
LegendreAnyone? Where to get madwifi for 7.10?18:30
Legendrecompile it? apt-get it from ______?18:31
StroganoffLegendre madwifi is included into wifi18:31
Legendrefwiw, it's not in my install of 7.10.. not that I can find.18:31
Stroganoffi mean included into Ubuntu18:31
LegendreI'll give that a look, thanks.18:31
Stroganoffhave you installed linux-restricted-modules18:32
Legendre"In case you did a manual install, try installing linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and that’s it."18:33
Legendreactually, I'm trying to fix my boss's eff-up ;)18:33
Legendreso I just apt-get the lin-res-mod18:33
Legendrewhere is it, multi / uni?18:34
Stroganoffits in "restricted"18:34
Stroganoffsee: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=linux-restricted-modules18:34
LegendreStroganoff - ok, hopefully my last idiot question.. how do I allow 'restricted' in sources.list?18:40
StroganoffLegendre: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted18:44
Stroganoffreplace de. with us. or something18:44
Stroganoffor use the source management in synaptic..18:44
Legendreok, I just added a new line with .../ gutsy restricted18:45
Legendreand it seems to have worked18:45
Legendreappreciate all this...18:46
boolkais the only difference between ubuntu and xubuntu is the gnome ?20:14
cody-somervilleThe default application selection is the difference20:14
boolkabit the core is the same?20:15
boolkais xubuntu much more lighter then ubuntu?20:22
Stroganoffboolka icewm is MUCH more lighter...20:33
boolkathanks Stroganoff20:35
boolkaHow come when I connect my laptop to lcd monitor via VGA cable it works. But when I use a VGA to RCA/svideo converter cable, it dont work? Do i have to modify the x.org file?20:35
HelsuIs there no 64-bit Xubuntu?20:44
HelsuAh, nevermind.20:45
HelsuI am generally new to Linux, will Xubuntu run stable (the desktop edition) enough for a home server?20:46
HelsuIt will just be used for filesharing, printer sharing and BitTorrent.20:46
zoredacheyes, it will be fine... I suspect I would go with an lts release though...  Of course I tend to use debian for my servers20:47
HelsuWell I tried that non graphical stuff20:49
Helsuit just doesn't work for me, I don't think the guiders are easy enough20:49
HelsuI didn't know what to do after making an account, it was frustrating20:50
Helsuso I'm going the easy way20:50
Helsucan i maintain it using a remote desktop from windows easily?20:51
StroganoffHelsu you an maintain using vnc20:54
Stroganoffbut a server is way cooler (and faster if ur low on ram) without a GUI20:55
HelsuIt will be hot anyway, it will run Folding@Home20:55
Helsuby the way a general question21:00
Helsui've always wondered this21:00
Helsuwhen companies order a huge server21:00
Helsue.g a webhost21:00
Helsudid they buy one with a GPU?21:01
Helsuhow do they set it up for the first itme?21:01
Helsuwhat is the alternate edition?21:03
zoredacheHelsu: the altnernate edition has a console based installer that gives you far more control21:11
zoredacheit also tends to work better on difificult systems21:11
HelsuNot far more control for ME, though.21:11
HelsuIf you are new to Linux it doesn't really give you more control21:14
HelsuIt's like giving you a 1000-key keyboard with nothing on them, saying it gives you more control because you have a button for everything.21:14
Helsutechnically it gives you more control but not practically21:16
Stroganoffespecially if you dont even try..21:17
Helsuwell, i am the man in the street21:20
Helsuif you want your distro popular you need to make it better for the man in the street21:21
Helsulinux generally isn't21:21
zoredachethat is a very challenging request Helsu21:21
zoredachemost of the developers that really love Linux, love it because it gives them tons of control21:22
Helsui just think "you" should make a windows home server -windows +linux21:22
HelsuMS has really made it simple there21:23
Helsuanyway i'm off, it is late in my timezone21:24
arualaviMS don't make it simple, they make decisions for you, that's different.21:25
arualavi*/make/take apologies for my english21:26
Stroganoffnever mind21:27
coach_zI just  installed xubuntu and i have two 'drives' mounted on my HD that are not related to any drives that i have and they also cannot be opened or mounted23:11
zoredachecoach_z: do you have any usb devices attached that might appear as a drive?  Do you have a media reader that doesn't have any flash cards in?23:16

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