[02:39] Hi -- I'm trying to set up VNC through SSH on my xubuntu box but i'm running into the grey screen error [02:39] i've been working on it for hours but i can't seem to find the problem despite the documentation online.. can someone look at it with me? === mpalatnik is now known as migm === migm is now known as migm07 [03:04] okay [03:04] so now im past the grey screen [03:04] but all im getting is a single terminal window [03:04] whats the deal with that [03:04] haha === mpalatnik is now known as migm07 [03:14] Where can I find a searchable software catalogue for 8.04? [03:17] hihi. I just installed xubuntu and my mouse is clicking twice instead of once when i click it. any ideas on how to fix it? [03:27] charding: http://packages.ubuntu.com [05:27] anyone know of an exif reader that can pick up the tag of where an image was taken? === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [05:37] hello [05:37] anyone have any recommendations for a way to setup an automatic wireless connection on xubuntu feisty? [05:39] once you've connected to a network it should try and reconnect to that network once again. [05:40] for some reason i have to manually go to it and enter the info every time, keyring doesnt work it like on gnome [05:41] do you have the gnome keyring installed? In my setup it uses tha t. [05:41] and that's with knetwork manager which i installed, i couldnt find the network manager that gnome uses [05:44] it's not in the tray and i cant locate it in menus [05:45] gonna try something brb === gaurdro is now known as gaurdro|away === gaurdro|away is now known as gaurdro [06:12] nickxoo3: did you find xfapplet in your panel? [06:14] it allows you to add gnome applets to your xfce panel [06:22] no, how do i use that? [06:22] rightclick on your panel [06:22] add new item, then add xfapplet [06:23] after that you can choose which gnome applet you want to add to your panel, maybe the network manager hides there :] [06:23] ok, im on ubuntu right now, ill switch over to xubuntu and let you know how it goes :) [06:23] :] [06:24] * totalwormface doesn't know a single bit about wifi btw, so if it doesn't help, that's all i got :P [06:43] no luck :( but thanks anyway :) [06:43] :P [11:36] I have an Acer travelmate 260 and my Fn key is not working [11:37] using gutsy (freshly upgraded from feisty) [12:05] anybody? [12:05] how do I make the Fn key work [12:05] ? [12:06] maybe you can find something in keyboard shortcuts [12:06] * totalwormface not on gnome right now :P [12:07] I'm using xfce myself... [12:08] but even if I set up a shortcut, it's as if the Fn key is not even registered [12:08] * totalwormface has to check which channel he types things in :P [12:08] if I :) [12:09] maybe I should just use gnome... [12:09] * totalwormface wouldn't know [12:09] it works under gnome? [12:09] but it's an old PC - it's struggling as it is with the 256M ram :( [12:10] I don't know [12:10] I haven't tried it [12:10] hm [12:10] but I'm trying not to overload it -- it's slow as it is [12:10] running gnome on such a machine is not going to work smooth :P [12:11] maybe something in xorg settings? [12:11] * totalwormface is on a 256M ram computer right now too, and it's saddening [12:11] could be, maybe you'll find something on the forums if you search on the keyboard model [12:15] *sigh* [12:15] maybe I'll just install puppy or something [12:16] or accept the fact that this laptop should just retire... [12:17] soulfreshner: I have a laptop with xfce on it, featuring only 128MB of ram. [12:18] works a bit slow, but otherwise fine :) [12:18] the speed is mostly due to the P3 and the type of memory since it isn't swapping at all. [12:18] mine was also working until about 2 minutes ago... I think it just gave up on me [12:19] it's not turning on anymore :( [12:19] bummer [12:34] Hello! [12:35] hey there [12:36] I want ask something. I Download cool theme but how I can use it? I'm using xubuntu 7.04 [12:36] extract it into ~/.themes [12:36] That's it? [12:37] that's it [12:37] Wow! Sorry I even ask. [12:37] then you should be able to choose it under userinterface preferences [12:38] OK [12:49] One question more. Where I find that ~/.themes [12:53] Athalus: hi [12:54] you can open the file manager and tell it to show you hidden files and directories [12:55] ok [12:55] or you can open a terminal (also called a console sometimes) and type "ls -a" without the quotes [12:56] then change into that directory with "cd .themes" [12:56] Do you mean "ls-l" whit out quotes? [12:57] actually, you don't to execute "ls" in oder to execute "cd", I just thought I would make you a little familiar with both ;) [12:57] you can do that too "ls -lah" [12:57] you can combine multiple options in a single command [12:58] often, the options are documented, execute "man ls" [12:59] or more generally "man " [12:59] :P [12:59] :-D [12:59] later, bye [12:59] I'm totally out! [12:59] bye [12:59] bye [13:00] Athalus: are you confused now or do you manage? :P [13:00] ? [13:00] does it work or not :] [13:01] Can you only tell me where is that themes order [13:02] well, open the file manager, click on 'view' and then 'show hidden files' [13:02] yes [13:02] just copy/paste the theme in the .themes folder [13:03] then rightclick it and extract it in that folder [13:03] there is no .themes folder [13:03] then go to the xfce menu, hit settings, then user interface settings and it should be there [13:03] then make one :] [13:04] right click anywhere in the filebrowser, say create folder and name it .themes [13:04] I'm in finland and I use Finnish mode [13:05] ahhh [16:06] Uh, hi there. I'm trying to set up epiphany as the default browser on xubuntu. I did it in galternatives and xfce preferred applications, but when I click on links in, say, synaptic, I still get firefox. Any ideas? [16:44] i am having trouble with 'unmet' dependencies, and so i cannot install or remove any software. in the terminal i just ran 'sudo apt-get install -f.' now i get this message: ...packages were automatically installed and no longer needed: libgnet2.0-0 skype-common dvb-utils [16:44] Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. my question is, what is the exact commant line to execute? [16:45] sudo apt-get autoremove [16:47] stroganoff, 'sudo apt-get autoremove libgnet2.0-0 skype-common dvb-utils', or just 'sudo apt-get autoremove' ... ? [16:47] the latter [16:52] Stroganoff, i seem to be in a loop. i ran the autoremove, and i go back to: You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. [16:52] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [16:52] skype: Depends: skype-common (= 2.0.0.43-0medibuntu2) but 2.0.0.68-0medibuntu0.7.10.1 is installed [16:52] E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. [16:52] mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ apt-get -f install [16:52] E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) [16:53] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? [16:53] mikubuntu: close synaptic [16:53] mikubuntu: and use sudo [16:54] i did close the update manager, and synaptic was never open [16:54] sudo apt-get -f install [16:54] "are you root?" means you forgot sudo [16:55] oh, i see, you're right i omitted sudo.... oooooOOOOoooops. [16:58] dang it, still getting stuck. hope this isn't too much copy for the channel, seems slow right now so i hope not. can you translate this?: mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get -f install [16:58] Reading package lists... Done [16:58] Building dependency tree [16:58] Reading state information... Done [16:58] Correcting dependencies... Done [16:58] The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: [16:58] libgnet2.0-0 skype-common dvb-utils [16:58] Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. [16:58] The following extra packages will be installed: [16:58] skype [16:58] The following packages will be upgraded: [16:58] skype [16:58] 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [16:58] Need to get 0B/15.5MB of archives. [16:58] After unpacking 6595kB of additional disk space will be used. [16:58] Do you want to continue [Y/n]? sudo apt-get autoremove [16:58] Abort. [16:59] mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ [16:59] lol [16:59] Do you want to continue [Y/n] [16:59] you should read the output... [16:59] big Y means "yes" is default, so just hit return [17:02] i did read the output. but see what happens when i follow? Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y [17:02] (Reading database ... 140538 files and directories currently installed.) [17:02] Preparing to replace skype 2.0.0.43-0medibuntu2 (using .../skype_2.0.0.68-1_i386.deb) ... [17:02] Unpacking replacement skype ... [17:02] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/skype_2.0.0.68-1_i386.deb (--unpack): [17:02] trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/skype.png', which is also in package skype-common [17:02] dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) [17:02] Errors were encountered while processing: [17:02] /var/cache/apt/archives/skype_2.0.0.68-1_i386.deb [17:02] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [17:02] mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ [17:07] mikubuntu run this (at your own risk) [17:07] sudo dpkg --force-all --purge --remove skype skype-common [17:11] sorry, my chatzilla crashed (firefox crashed and took chatzilla with it) [17:12] mikubuntu run this (at your own risk) [17:12] sudo dpkg --force-all --purge --remove skype skype-common [17:13] what's the risk? [17:15] i get this: mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-all --purge --remove skype skype-common [17:15] dpkg: conflicting actions -r (--remove) and -P (--purge) [17:15] Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*]; [17:15] Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management; [17:15] Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values; [17:15] ok [17:15] Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options; [17:15] Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files; [17:15] Type dpkg --license for copyright license and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*]. [17:15] sudo dpkg --force-all --remove skype skype-common [17:15] Options marked [*] produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' ! [17:15] mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ [17:16] i get this: mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-all --remove skype skype-common [17:16] (Reading database ... 140537 files and directories currently installed.) [17:16] Removing skype ... [17:16] Removing skype-common ... [17:16] mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ [17:18] stroganoff, so am i back to where i should be? can i run sudo apt-get update now? [17:20] i ran sudo apt-get update, and i get this (after a lot of other output): W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com gutsy/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy_partner_binary-i386_Packages) [17:20] W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems [17:20] mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ [17:21] sudo apt-get install skype [17:26] stroganoff, ok, i think that completed ok. now to update general updates is it sudo apt-get install upgrade? [17:26] sudo apt-get upgrade [17:26] and if you want to update the kernel: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [17:27] that would up me to hardy beta, wouldn't it? [17:27] no [17:27] you'd have to change sources.list for that (or use upgrade manager / synaptic) [17:28] do you recommend it? [17:28] hardy? well [17:28] depends [17:28] no, the kernel upgrade [17:29] yes [17:29] ok, i do it then [17:30] does this mean kernel was already updated?: mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [17:30] Reading package lists... Done [17:30] Building dependency tree [17:30] Reading state information... Done [17:30] Calculating upgrade... Done [17:30] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [17:30] mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ [17:31] if it is it's strange, because that unmet dependency problem has been keeping me from updating for weeks now ... [17:32] kernel should be up to date [17:32] run: uname -a [17:32] kernel should be 2.6.22-14 [17:33] ok, well, thanks ... i appreciate all your help. this is moms computer and i'm going out of town for a few days, glad to leave it in good condition [17:34] ... just type 'uname -a' into term? [17:34] yep [17:34] mikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$ uname -a [17:34] Linux marybuntu-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux [17:34] ok [17:35] signing off, thanks again guys [18:19] hi folks.. what's the lowdown on Atheros wifi support in xubuntu? [18:19] (7.10) [18:20] !wifi [18:20] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [18:21] anybody know why i might be having these probs? the screen on this box keeps going haywire. i'm guessing its a video card problem, cause right now i have a beautiful clean screen, but every now and then the screen just seems to crash, and i have to restart to get it back. also, i've been trying to open a terminal, and evry time i do, i get an x restart. [18:22] oem what display driver are you using? [18:23] see Section "Device" [18:23] stroganoff, how do i find out? [18:23] in /etc/X11/xorg.conf [18:23] ok [18:23] dOh! how do i do that? [18:23] Ok, it appears that I need the madwifi stuff, it's an Atheros 5212 chipset.. is there an apt-gettable package? [18:24] oem: sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf [18:24] you helpd me awhile ago with mom's computer, now i'm on another [18:25] ah, but here's the problem ... i can't seem to open a terminal. every time i click on terminal, screen goes black and i come back to login screen... [18:25] ok [18:25] i know this one :D [18:25] alt+f2 -> xterm [18:25] :) [18:25] :( don't understand [18:25] login [18:26] but what would cause the X-server or something on top of it, to crash? [18:26] then press alt+f2 and launch xterm [18:26] i don't get it. how? [18:26] xfce4-terminal crashes the xserver on some rare graphics cards. [18:26] you have to change DefaultDepth to 16 [18:27] login at the login screen. when the desktop is loaded, press Alt+F2 [18:27] this show the "Run..." prompt [18:27] type "xterm" to launch xterm [18:28] on the other hand you might want to try my minimal ubuntu system if you mom's computer is really slow [18:28] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741631 [18:28] omg, wait, i have to write this down. i will prolly lose chatzilla in this process [18:29] anyway, open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf with mousepad (text editor) and set "DefaultDepth" to 16 (instead of 24) [18:30] Anyone? Where to get madwifi for 7.10? [18:31] compile it? apt-get it from ______? [18:31] Legendre madwifi is included into wifi [18:31] http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu [18:31] fwiw, it's not in my install of 7.10.. not that I can find. [18:31] i mean included into Ubuntu [18:31] I'll give that a look, thanks. [18:32] have you installed linux-restricted-modules [18:32] ? [18:33] "In case you did a manual install, try installing linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and that’s it." [18:33] actually, I'm trying to fix my boss's eff-up ;) [18:33] Oo [18:33] so I just apt-get the lin-res-mod [18:34] yep [18:34] where is it, multi / uni? [18:34] its in "restricted" [18:34] see: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=linux-restricted-modules [18:36] hi [18:36] hello [18:40] Stroganoff - ok, hopefully my last idiot question.. how do I allow 'restricted' in sources.list? [18:44] Legendre: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted [18:44] replace de. with us. or something [18:44] or use the source management in synaptic.. [18:45] ok, I just added a new line with .../ gutsy restricted [18:45] and it seems to have worked [18:46] appreciate all this... [20:14] is the only difference between ubuntu and xubuntu is the gnome ? [20:14] The default application selection is the difference [20:15] bit the core is the same? [20:18] yes [20:22] is xubuntu much more lighter then ubuntu? [20:27] somewhat [20:33] boolka icewm is MUCH more lighter... [20:33] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741631 [20:35] thanks Stroganoff [20:35] How come when I connect my laptop to lcd monitor via VGA cable it works. But when I use a VGA to RCA/svideo converter cable, it dont work? Do i have to modify the x.org file? [20:44] Is there no 64-bit Xubuntu? [20:45] Ah, nevermind. [20:45] yes [20:46] I am generally new to Linux, will Xubuntu run stable (the desktop edition) enough for a home server? [20:46] It will just be used for filesharing, printer sharing and BitTorrent. [20:47] yes, it will be fine... I suspect I would go with an lts release though... Of course I tend to use debian for my servers [20:49] Well I tried that non graphical stuff [20:49] it just doesn't work for me, I don't think the guiders are easy enough [20:50] I didn't know what to do after making an account, it was frustrating [20:50] so I'm going the easy way [20:51] can i maintain it using a remote desktop from windows easily? [20:54] Helsu you an maintain using vnc [20:55] but a server is way cooler (and faster if ur low on ram) without a GUI [20:55] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [20:55] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto [20:55] It will be hot anyway, it will run Folding@Home [21:00] by the way a general question [21:00] i've always wondered this [21:00] when companies order a huge server [21:00] e.g a webhost [21:01] did they buy one with a GPU? [21:01] how do they set it up for the first itme? [21:03] what is the alternate edition? [21:11] Helsu: the altnernate edition has a console based installer that gives you far more control [21:11] it also tends to work better on difificult systems [21:11] Not far more control for ME, though. [21:12] ? [21:14] If you are new to Linux it doesn't really give you more control [21:14] It's like giving you a 1000-key keyboard with nothing on them, saying it gives you more control because you have a button for everything. [21:16] technically it gives you more control but not practically [21:17] especially if you dont even try.. [21:20] well, i am the man in the street [21:21] if you want your distro popular you need to make it better for the man in the street [21:21] linux generally isn't [21:21] that is a very challenging request Helsu [21:22] most of the developers that really love Linux, love it because it gives them tons of control [21:22] i just think "you" should make a windows home server -windows +linux [21:23] MS has really made it simple there [21:24] anyway i'm off, it is late in my timezone [21:25] MS don't make it simple, they make decisions for you, that's different. [21:26] */make/take apologies for my english [21:27] never mind [21:40] n8 [23:11] I just installed xubuntu and i have two 'drives' mounted on my HD that are not related to any drives that i have and they also cannot be opened or mounted [23:16] coach_z: do you have any usb devices attached that might appear as a drive? Do you have a media reader that doesn't have any flash cards in?