[00:04] is there a very reliable download manager with excellent resume support? [00:04] apt [00:05] hi [00:05] !sources [00:05] The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [00:06] where is source o matic [00:07] user1, there's always downthemall [00:07] download manager extension for firefox [00:07] downthemall is the ext for ff? [00:08] um... yeah. [00:09] !source-omatic [00:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about source-omatic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [00:09] how to run adept from command line? [00:09] user1, use apt-get or aptitude. adept is kde only [00:09] can I have a list of compelete source for ubuntu [00:09] please [00:09] !source-o-matic [00:09] source-o-matic is not available anymore, please use Software Sources (in your Applications / K menu) to configure your repositories. Do NOT enable "Proposed updates" unless you're willing to test possibly seriously flawed packages. [00:09] Kamping_Kaiser i know. i have kde. how to run it? [00:10] julie, and there you have your answer [00:10] system > adept manager. why run from the command line? [00:10] user1, tried `kdesu adept`? [00:10] user1@computer1:~$ kdesu adept [00:10] sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 15 06:20:38 2008 [00:11] there is no application in K menu.. stupid ubotu, you think I would ask that question if I was using the latest version of kubuntu with that feature === schumacher is now known as tehrafff [00:14] I don't think that the bot has any inteligence, so of course it's stupid.. you wouldn't call your vacum cleaner smart would you? But what do you mean bu no applications in kmenu? [00:14] by* [00:15] user1, restart, or wait until that time is correct. your clock has been updated. [00:16] k [00:16] when is the release date for kubuntu 8.04? [00:17] we are already in 04 [00:17] !hardy [00:17] Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu [00:17] in 9 days [00:17] * Kamping_Kaiser pokes ubotu [00:22] where is a sources list for kubuntu please [00:23] /etc/apt/sources.list [00:23] Azzco: no the official source for kubuntu [00:23] not where it is on my drive [00:23] !sources.list [00:23] The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [00:27] hi , does anyone know any site that can help me use dual monitors? [00:28] what stage of dual monitor setup are you at? [00:28] mart, have you looked in system settings? If you're using a nvidia card you could try with nvidia-settings [00:28] which card do you have ati or nividia [00:28] nvidia [00:28] gi all [00:28] sorry [00:29] hi all [00:29] :) [00:29] well actually i tried admin mode but the setting does not change +( [00:29] mart, use nvidia-settings ;) [00:30] You can launch it with Alt+F2 nvidia-settings, then go the X Server Display Configuration [00:30] i dont have the driver for Kubuntu 7,1 atm... [00:30] Do you know how to install them? [00:30] yes [00:30] it just wont let me [00:30] mart: have you done any thing like this ? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dual-monitors-with-nvidia.html [00:31] !sources [00:31] The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [00:31] yes where you change the xorg.conf.. but [00:31] What's the matter with the install then? (Or you just want to use the open source nv driver?) [00:31] thats the problem i dont want to use the open source driver [00:31] has kubuntu or ubuntu setup automatic source changes during upgrades yet? [00:32] julie: yes but any additionally added sources are commented out [00:32] mart: have you read the how to on the binary drivers [00:32] yes yes =) but not that well xD [00:32] mart, where did the install fail for you? [00:33] basically everything lol [00:33] !nv [00:33] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [00:33] ubitu is a busy bot :) [00:33] ubotu [00:33] maybe ill just try the beta version =) [00:34] opusdeux: At least it is not a human being on the other end that is copy/pasting ;) [00:34] Azzco; or is it? :P [00:34] is there a way that i can install the latest driver via the terminal? [00:35] mart: have you looked at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 [00:35] mart, did you even check the binary driver howto? [00:35] opusdeux: maybe it's mark? =o [00:35] OT though ;) [00:36] julie: done that with Ubuntu .. but actually running on a Kubuntu atm. [00:36] Azzco: lol [00:36] mart: that shouldn't make a diff , you must be dealing with xorg mainly not ubuntu [00:36] Azzco: yes i did , maybe im just too tired to fiddle with my Kde [00:37] mart, if you're just lazy you could check out envy ;) [00:37] julie: yes yes but .. if i use the nvidia settings it doesnt save the changes on xorg.conf file [00:37] mart, if you open it with kdesu/sudo you can [00:38] Azzco: not being lazy, i could install envy at all lol [00:38] Azzco: yes in gedit but not in nvidia settings... what if i wanted to change my setttings later on? [00:39] mart, nvidia-settings can write the changes to the xorg.conf if it has access to the file, you can later edit it with a text editor if you'd like [00:40] Azzco: hmm let me see if i can install Envy in Kubuntu [00:40] this is why pclinuxos is better, shame i can't install it on my computer at the mo [00:41] julie there is a diference between ubuntu and kunbuntu? [00:41] kubuntu uses KDE while ubuntu uses gnome [00:41] without graohical unverinment [00:47] can i ask one more question? [00:47] xD [00:58] I keep getting the message could not verify the integrety of the upgrader program this application will now exit.. any help [00:58] please [00:59] Anyone know what file(s) I need to edit in order to have the standard kdm start on TTY7 and a different remote X terminal start on TTY8 or TTY9? [00:59] There isn't an /etc/inittab or anything. === dubby[afk] is now known as dubby [01:02] hello,can someone please tell me : is it possible to send files from yahoo messanger to a pidgin user ? [01:05] If the pidgin user is upgraded to 2.4.1 [01:06] Up until that version, there is no real support for Yahoo File transfer after version 7... === saki_ is now known as neosaki [01:10] can someone help me with a kppp issue, or point me in the right direction? [01:10] thats awesome...apparently Amarok made duplicates of all my music >.> [01:10] ... [01:12] quiet all the sudden [01:13] i created a new user account, and now kppp dials out, but hangs on "connecting to network" [01:13] pagan0ne: what is the kppp issue? [01:13] hmm [01:13] i have no idea [01:13] Admiral_Chicago i think it may be a permission issue, but no idea on what file [01:13] pagan0ne: your config file will be... [01:13] i know it, sec [01:14] i also suspect it may be a group permission, however i think if the user didnt have group permission it wouldnt even dial [01:15] pagan0ne: check your man pages of dpkg and apt, there is a command to list the files that it installs [01:15] your config file will be in /etc [01:15] for sure === ubuntu is now known as runrun [01:15] Admiral_Chicago i know where the config file is, but not quite sure what could be wrong, it dials out fine as root [01:16] Admiral_Chicago is there any way i can get apt or dpkg to reconfigure all permissions for files pertaning to kppp? [01:16] (without having to redownload kppp?) [01:17] pagan0ne, what groups are you in? dialup? [01:17] Kamping_Kaiser id check but the computer just went down and its 500 miles away on a dial up connection, idk for sure [01:18] Kamping_Kaiser id check but the computer just went down and its 500 miles away on a dial up connection, idk for sure [01:18] pagan0ne, :( [01:18] Kamping_Kaiser sorry for the double post, ment to say, i would think if i wasnt in dial up kppp would just fail to pick up the modem... [01:20] pagan0ne, depends how it 'picks up' the modem [01:20] Kamping_Kaiser well it goes through all proper dialing, and hangs on connecting to network, do you think it would make it that far if i wasnt in the group? [01:21] pagan0ne, i havent ever used dialup on *ubuntu [01:22] Kamping_Kaiser your lucky you have broadband avalable... lol [01:22] pagan0ne, yes, yes i am :) [01:22] pagan0ne, where are you ? [01:22] i have it here, but where the box it, its in DE in the middle of a farm [01:23] when i install kubuntu will wifi and ethernet work? [01:23] fiber, dsl, and cable all run within 2 miles of the house, but not to it [01:23] sponzor, depends on chipset [01:23] ok [01:23] pagan0ne, :( that sucks [01:24] spanther does it work on the livecd? [01:24] err wrong person [01:24] sponzor does it work on the livecd? [01:25] hi there. [01:25] yes [01:25] but wifi no [01:25] :P [01:25] sup sponzor [01:25] any apache buffs here? [01:25] sponzor then chances are that it will work just like it does on the livecd, and with some tinkering you may even be able to get wifi working [01:26] sponzor, what is the chipset? [01:26] i have 1 ip address, multiple hosts. i want to use a different ssl key for each host. i this still impossible? [01:26] on hardware that i have [01:26] ? [01:26] well ssl certificate rather [01:26] franx, context ...? [01:26] sponzor, yes, on the wireless [01:27] sponzor yea what wifi chipset are you using? [01:27] ok 1 ip address: 1.2.3.4, different virtual hosts: https://foo.com, https://foo1.com [01:27] i want to use two different ssl certificates [01:27] franx, so apache? [01:27] yes [01:28] i have read some old pages about the issue and it seemed to lean toward only 1 ssl cert per ip address [01:28] inter pro wireless 3945abg [01:28] not sure, i think it could be abused into doing it. perhaps ask #apache [01:28] hehehe [01:28] abuse is good [01:28] sponzor, i think its supported by some of the non-free packages in kubuntu [01:28] dont quote me though :) [01:28] ok [01:29] im just curious, but how do you guys feel about the mint linux project? [01:30] personally not a lot, but then i hang out in gNewSense/Gobuntu/Debian land, so its not my cup of tea [01:31] what is with install... how to set up / swap etc...how many gb ? and ext3 do i use ore someting else? [01:31] sponzor, defaults is usually ok (unless your dual booting or something special is needed) [01:31] i m dual booting [01:31] although having /home on a seperate partition is quite popular [01:32] * Kamping_Kaiser doesnt know the kubuntu installer well enough to help with that question [01:32] Kamping_Kaiser yes yes it is, however dont try to install 8.04 with a seprate /boot partition [01:32] do you have any link on howto separate partitions? [01:32] pagan0ne, why? [01:32] !install [01:32] Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [01:33] Kamping_Kaiser it fails to boot, it wont configure grub properly to load the kernel off /boot, it looks for it on / [01:33] sponzor, check the first link. should explain stuff [01:33] pagan0ne, what... an ugly bug. [01:33] Kamping_Kaiser no a ugly bug is sudo, kdesudo, kdesu, and gksudo not working at all [01:33] ok [01:33] Kamping_Kaiser also a bug in 8.04 [01:34] pagan0ne, they can both be ugly ;) [01:34] thats not a current bug is it? [01:34] Kamping_Kaiser both are current in 8.04 beta [01:34] pagan0ne, :| [01:34] Kamping_Kaiser yeah i was shocked [01:35] Kamping_Kaiser however with some shell hacking i manager to su in konsole and load gui apps using some DISPLAY hacking [01:35] pagan0ne, kubuntu isnt exactly overloaded with devs, which i guess doestn help [01:35] Kamping_Kaiser still havent figured out how to get grub to reconize its own /boot partition [01:36] do i need /boot? [01:36] :D [01:37] sponzor no, no you dont [01:37] sponzor, no, by the look of it [01:37] which has to be the first time i've ever said that :| [01:37] so the grub will install it self? [01:37] sponzor well you need /boot just not on its own partition [01:37] i yust need to be shure that i can stell go to windows [01:38] sponzor i just like my /boot on its own partition for those times when i really fsck up, so i can be sure i havent killed my bootloader [01:39] ok that is to leet for me [01:39] ) [01:39] :) [01:39] You have to be really good.. to mess up that bad! [01:39] :) [01:39] you have to be - *dramatic chord* pagan0ne ! [01:40] Dr_willis or just be messing with Vista's ntfs and stuff on the same drive as linux [01:41] Dr_willis hehe i messed up my vista partition and then went to reformat it, and hit my / partition instead.... [01:41] :) [01:41] luckly my /home was on a seprate drive [01:41] I did a similer thing once during isntall.. due to the ide disk getting named 'sda' and what USED tobe my sata disk was now sdb.... [01:42] and i iddent notice that i had 2 sd## disks. :) [01:42] although all my pr0n was in /root/docs for safe keeping :( [01:42] Dr_willis, hehe. you should have been using UUID drives ;) [01:42] Kamping_Kaiser, this was during the INSTALLER [01:42] * Kamping_Kaiser hates UUID and scsi mode for IDE drives [01:43] lol [01:43] use all of sda.. yes... oops... :) [01:43] so i use 8gb for / will that be enought? :P [01:43] Dr_willis, :| [01:43] yeah... not pretty! [01:43] 'hmm where did i get 2 sd disks from? ' [01:43] :) [01:43] sponzor / will be where all your files and all of the os will be stored, linux will fit on 8gb but not alot of room left [01:43] * Kamping_Kaiser feels ouch for you [01:44] so 15 then? [01:44] sponzor how big is the hard drive, and what are you gonna be using linux for? [01:44] kubuntu i will use it for destkop [01:44] and it is 60gb [01:45] and what will windows be used for? games? [01:45] 8 is plenty for a strait desktop [01:45] * Kamping_Kaiser only has big drives to fit package mirrors [01:45] cisco vpn client [01:45] :P [01:45] sponzor figure 5-8 Gb for just the OS then whatever space you may need for your music and misc files [01:46] ok / is ext3 swap is swap and /home is vfat? [01:46] sponzor why are you making a seprate /home? jw? [01:46] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace [01:47] vfat? ewwwwwww [01:47] :P [01:47] just no. [01:47] ok [01:47] sponzor make the /home ext3 [01:47] you'll have a world of pain with anything that uses permissions (which is anything unix) [01:47] preferably [01:47] * corporeal coughreisercough [01:47] pagan0ne, in the event that you need to reinstall your system or something similar, you don't need to touch your home folder, where all your docs/music/etc are stored. You can also increase the size if you need to easily [01:47] ok can windows read ext3? [01:48] * Kamping_Kaiser shuts corporeal in the boot of the car and pushes it off a cliff [01:48] sponzor, not natively. There are applications which allows windows to read ext2/3 [01:48] NickPresta i know the reasons i would, i was wondering his [01:48] sux [01:48] sponzor which version of windows? [01:48] xp [01:48] all but vista will work with 3rd party drivers [01:48] sponzor, http://www.fs-driver.org/ [01:50] sponzor, of course, I take no responsibility for fs-driver and what it may do to your EXT3 filesystem. === sylvain_ is now known as sylvain__ [01:52] that fs-driver thing works with vista also === sylvain__ is now known as sylvain_ [01:52] vista sux :D [01:54] Dr_willis i refused to try it as i was just too scared what vista would wind up doing to my ext3 partition [01:54] heh, Vista ate my fat32 partition w/o even askinf [01:55] well, idk about you guys, but im gonna go drink some beer and play some rock band.... [01:55] thanks for the help everyone [01:56] pagan0ne, enjoy RB [01:56] NickPresta oh, i will, dont fear the reaper! === naught103 is now known as naught101 === sponzore is now known as sponzor [01:59] mmkmay, the lack of amarok 1.4.9 is starting to get to me :\ [02:00] Daisuke_Ido, amazon cover problem? [02:00] has anyone had any success runnin kubuntu on a c3 processor? [02:02] NickPresta, most certainly [02:02] Daisuke_Ido, I feel your pain. :( [02:02] tricking out my desktop right now... got AWN working great... though i need to find plugins for it [02:02] I added about 100 new artists (with >= 100 new albums) and there is no way I'm going to get all covers manually [02:03] got a script that will display the cover of the currently playing album. but without covers... :\ === MrJoey is now known as Joey_Adams === Joey_Adams is now known as JoeyAdams [02:04] and i have a separator in there that i cannot get rid of :\ [02:04] heh. AFAIK, the fix is already complete and in 1.4.9.1, so it is just a matter of the repos being updated. [02:04] Greets, everyone... [02:04] Hey, contrast83 [02:05] alright, got rid of the ugly separator [02:05] Could someone pastebin their /boot/grub/menu.lst for me? The "Install GRUB to the hard disk" step failed when I installed Kubuntu, so I need to add an entry for it to GRUB. [02:06] grub-setup i believe [02:06] Daisuke_Ido: Was that to me? [02:06] Daisuke_Ido, you could compile from source using check install to create a deb and then when 1.4.9.1 comes out in the repos, it should update your compiled version. [02:06] wait... that probably won't work if you can't get to it :\ [02:06] anyone had success with the embedded via processors? [02:07] Well, I have GRUB working fine on my sidux install, but it just isn't picking up Kubuntu and adding it to the menu.lst. [02:07] contrast83, running `update-grub` should get it. [02:07] contrast83: yes, right away [02:08] NickPresta: No joy, but thanks anyway. [02:09] DreadKnight: Thanks... [02:11] contrast83: here it is: http://pasteall.org/514 [02:12] note that there are some variables for my native language [02:12] ro [02:13] DreadKnight: Not a problem, all I need is the kernel list... You're actually using all those kernels? o_O [02:13] contrast83: erm.. nope [02:14] contrast83: hmm, a lot of shit gathers up it seems [02:14] DreadKnight: You might want to remove them. They're one of the biggest consumers of HD space. ;-) [02:14] contrast83: sudo apt-get autoremove got me rid of them a long time ago.. but i think they are only listed in the menu file [02:15] DreadKnight: Well back when I was using Kubuntu a lot, I used Synaptic for getting rid of them. Gnome's package management apps pwn KDE's. :-\ [02:16] contrast83: hopefully there will be a great rewrite for adep (port actually to kde4) [02:16] adept* [02:18] Hopefully... I doubt they'd do something as dramatic as completely change the layout to match Synaptic's though. [02:18] synaptic is more confusing then adept imo :-) [02:19] Wow. You're the first person I've heard say that. :-) [02:19] * contrast83 toasts to the beauty of choice in Linux [02:19] adept could be way better ... hmm.. [02:19] lol [02:19] Well, I'm off to see if this worked. Thanks again... Peace. [02:26] hey channel...having a problem reformatting some old floppies here...I was getting suspicious about kfloppy and other floppy-related feedback from konsole, I was *always* being told there were formating erros when using kfloppy, and *always* being told of input/output errors when I tried the "dd if...of" comand in terminal [02:27] dennister, throw the discs out yet? you should [02:27] Kamping_Kaiser: i threw out a lot...but i need one or two now [02:28] dennister, unless you can replace the drive (which could be shot), its likely the discs [02:29] anyway, so I rebooted into my winblows drive did a comaprison: yes, many of the diskettes were unformatable, so i threw them out, but some were fine [02:29] now, those same "fine", newly formatted disks are still giving me the same kfloppy and konsole errors [02:31] somehow i *gulp* trust winblows' results more than gutsy's...perhaps i have a problem with my floppy drive configurations here in kubuntu [02:31] i'd guess the drive is sus. but i do note that formatting a floppy wont magically heal it === bryan_ is now known as kelsa|martalli [02:31] Kamping_Kaiser: of course not, but formatting it will often tell me if there's a problem with its integrity [02:32] Where can I find the dialog/settings/whatever to change my screen settings (x.org, basically) in 8.04 beta? Should I just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand? [02:32] i need to save some bios files here, in preparation for fiddling around with bios' acpi settings so I can bloody well get kubuntu into this P4 machine [02:33] shardz, #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support [02:33] Well, it's the kubuntu kde4 remix, but okay. [02:33] shardz, you can also ask in #kubuntu-kde4 [02:34] alternate install CD is constantly giving me probs...first NHI watchdog errors, then hangs at formatting drive for root...other problems I had earlier with alternateinstallcd are known bugs: refuses to install linux-kernal [02:34] if further support is required please go to the support forum @ #support [02:35] i suspect its the acpi that's at the root of it all, so i want to disable it in the bios [02:36] (after savign it first) with the flash utility [02:36] VisciousPotato: god, I love your nick :) [02:36] how creative :) [02:37] ahhhhh genii :) :) :) [02:37] lol...in and out [02:38] gene: :-) [02:38] oops [02:38] I am also known as Roby718, Roey [02:38] genii: :) [02:38] dennister: Hi [02:38] * genii hands out a round of coffees [02:38] I ripped the potato idea off some jerky mod [02:39] if further support is required please go to the support forum @ #support [02:39] genii: i'm having problems with acpi preventing another installation onto a P4 machine [02:40] genii: I was also thinking about you earlier today...need to sell some gold in those spare CPU's and shot mobos [02:40] do u remember that recycler who'd buy them? [02:40] dennister: So you're finding acpi=off or noacpi neccesary for it to boot kernel properly, or so? [02:40] VisciousPotato: ahhhhh! :) [02:40] hey Robby :) [02:41] genii: it boots, but then hangs/freezes...won't finish (or refuses to install the kernel) [02:41] Please refer to #support [02:41] dennister: Well, the recycler we were going to before was paying $5 old hds, cases and mb I don't know [02:42] i just remember ken saying his eyes lit up cause of the precious metals, and those metals are in the cpu's and mobos...not so much the hdd [02:42] dennister: Tried the alternate cd? [02:43] genii: that's what I've been focusing on all day...most of the probs i complain of are with the alternate cd [02:43] dennister: I'll get the info where and who from Ken re: recycling, prices etc (he always dealt with them since driving, etc) [02:43] hi [02:44] i installed hardy beta [02:44] and i konsole doesn't have autocompletion [02:44] first, at bootup, get the NHI watchdog error message...it continues to boot...goes along fine until *after the partitioning stage and I've done tons of work...freezes at 33% of formatting root's partition with ext3 [02:44] dennister: On the alternate cd if it does something like hang, you can find usually some info on why by looking at console 4 (alt-f4) where stdout is going, error msgs etc etc [02:44] i installed bash-completion [02:44] but this doesn't solve the problem [02:45] k...alt-f4...will remember that [02:45] dennister: Maybe try ext2 since you can convert it after easily [02:46] i just want to get rid of acpi...not have it installed at all...i know how to disable it for the livecd session, but how to make sure it doesn't get installed during the system installation? [02:47] Hmm.. apci is a kernel featre i thought. you disable it with the various boot options. [02:47] You could set the defaults in the menu.lst file. [02:47] i'd really like to disable it in the bios, but...i should figure out how to make sure it doesn't get installed in my future kubuntu installs [02:48] Dr_willis: that's fine once you have it installed and a /boot section, but i'm not there yet...still trying to install and acpi is buggering me up...just won't let it happen [02:48] dennister: on alternate I forget. On regular F6 then edit end of kernel line to add whatever options. After install before reboot you can just mount the / (or /boot if you have separate for that) under /mnt and then edit the /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst there to add whatever boot options the new kernel should use. [02:49] hi [02:49] dennister: Disable any acpi in bios and kernel options should not be needed [02:50] i was recently juggling around with opendns, and now i cannot samba between my boxes, even though both of them can connect to the 'net still. Any ideas? [02:50] genii: yes, on regular live i use the same method...F6...noapic...but i need to know how to do this with alternatecd, and make sure it doesn't get installed in the hdd installation [02:52] disabling acpi in bios is what i was intending to do...but i want to save bios first with aflaash utility...but kfloppy is buggering me up without the ability to use *any* of my floppy disks...always give me errors...came into the channel to do [02:52] how can I save the contents of the crash dump file? [02:53] some troubleshooting of the floppy functions in this working pc...i actually trust *gulp* winblows's results re floppies better than kubuntu's at this point [02:54] .I was getting suspicious about kfloppy and other floppy-related feedback from konsole, I was *always* being told there were formating erros when using kfloppy, and *always* being told of input/output errors when I tried the "dd if...of" comand in terminal [02:54] so I rebooted into my winblows drive did a comaprison: yes, many of the diskettes were unformatable, so i threw them out, but some were fine [02:55] whats a program that can convert music files into mp3's [02:55] now, those same "fine", newly formatted disks are still giving me the same kfloppy and konsole errors [02:55] terettes15: mencoder, lame, etc. [02:56] genii: Dr_willis: do u both see the depth of my problems now? lol [02:56] thank you [02:56] dennister: After googling around, F6 in alternate seems same method to manually insert kernel options [02:57] and those inserted options will hold true not only for the temporary-wtih-cd installation, but also after the reboot? [02:58] thos inserted options will be carried forward into the installed kernel? [02:58] (if the kernel actually installs this time) [02:59] dennister: No, for that you need to use the method I just earlier described, of editing the to-be /boot/grub/menu.lst and manually inserting it before rebooting when install completes. [03:00] dennister: The F6 is to insert the option into the kernel the installer uses for it's own [03:00] how do I find out howmany hdds there are and how do I mount them form the command line [03:01] julie: sudo disk -l should list them all, mounted or otherwise. For the manpage of how to use the mount command from console,: man mount [03:01] genii: ok...am an old hand at editing grub by now :) [03:01] bbs [03:02] * Jucato inserts and 'f' in genii's instructions [03:02] julie: "sudo fdisk -l" [03:02] (small letter L) [03:02] Jucato: Nice catch :) [03:03] you're lucky I just had my first dose of sugar rush today :P [03:04] Jucato: Had a 14 hour workday, massive flood there. So somewhat tired :) [03:04] understandable [03:05] is there a program gui out there that allows me to esily mount [03:06] julie: kde3 has a devices applet, so any known devices it can mount with a couple of clicks [03:06] julie: eg cds and usb keys etc [03:06] work time for me. bye all [03:07] leave the good doctor be [03:08] in the mean time what's really good with saving a crash dump file [03:08] ? [03:10] julie: try the system settings [03:10] free1: I believe lcrash and perhaps dumputils may be what you are looking for [03:11]