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greg-gcan you tell I have a paper due soon? my bug triaging numbers just went up :)00:11
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* greg-g will finally be able to confirm bugs on hardy at home, upgrading the desktop02:07
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DOOM_NXgood morning everyone :)07:49
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IulianHello10:09
secretlondonhi10:11
IulianHey secretlondon :)10:11
affluxmorning11:32
james_whi afflux11:34
james_wI'm testing your nautilus-python fix now, and then I'll pass it on for sponsoring.11:35
affluxjames_w: cool!11:36
affluxjames_w: btw. I've uploaded a better patch to the upstream bugtracker which determines the path via pkg-config11:37
afflux(as you suggested IIRC)11:37
james_wafflux: great, it's good to know this will be fixed properly.11:37
affluxhuh, I found weird thinges in quodlibet's sourcecode: gst.element_make_from_uri(gst.URI_SRC,"file:///Sebastian/Droge/please/choke/on/a/bucket/of/cocks", ""):11:57
james_woh dear11:57
slomo_afflux: yes, the author has some personal problems with me it seems ;)11:59
affluxslomo_: hm, aha *g*11:59
affluxslomo_: the author has some other problems too: he has a completely setup trac but it's bugtracker is just closed. The ML is quite unresponsive on my bugs12:00
slomo_*shrug* :)12:00
Arbymvo; what info would you need for bug 217640?14:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 217640 in update-manager "update-manager locks itself" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21764014:17
Arbycould someone look at bug 217259 please?14:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 217259 in update-manager "upgrade crash after upgrade Kubuntu_64 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21725914:27
Arbythe reporters name seems odd.14:28
Arbyit links through to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu_14:28
Arbyjust don't want to tread on any toes14:28
mvoArby: for #217259 I would like to have the logs14:28
Arbymvo: does u-m still log to /var/log/dist-upgrade even for regular updates?14:29
mvoArby: no, right. I misread the report then14:30
mvoArby: the failures in #217259 looks like they are all in third party urls in his sources.list14:30
ArbyI agree, it just seems an odd user account that's all14:31
mvoArby: disabling those should be enough14:31
ArbyI thought someone had maybe left a note to self14:31
mvoArby: heh :) yeah, the user account is odd14:31
Arbyfair enough.14:31
ArbyI'll comment and probably close in a few days14:31
Arbymvo: guesses on 217640?14:32
Arbyseems like a regular update with odd locking behaviour14:33
* Arby back to work14:39
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mvoArby: yeah, missing feature, it should check beforehand. but I think in hardy its not too bad because we show when a package manager is working in the notification area now14:49
affluxanyone knows bug 211091? I suppose this is rather a gtk bug.15:38
ubotuLaunchpad bug 211091 in gajim "status list displays off screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21109115:38
james_wafflux: it could be either I guess15:40
james_walso, your patch got uploaded, thanks!15:40
affluxgreat!15:40
seb128afflux: that's a duplicate15:41
affluxseb128: that's what I suspected. Have you get the master?15:41
seb128afflux: looking15:42
affluxthanks!15:42
seb128afflux: bug #1759115:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 17591 in gtk+2.0 "Write speed menu drawn half empty" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759115:44
affluxah, cool, thanks!15:44
seb128you are welcome15:45
Nafalloone less bug for me.15:48
Nafallothanks afflux and seb128 :-)15:49
seb128;-)15:49
affluxNafallo: I'm currently looking at some gajim bugs, hope you don't mind :)15:49
Nafalloafflux: happy for it. I looked a bit last weekend, but appreciate help :-)15:50
Nafalloafflux: just ping me if you need an upload or anything :-)15:50
Nafalloit's a bzr-managed package.15:50
affluxokay15:50
Nic2Hi there, i've a strange bug using Ubuntu 8.04 and i need assistance to report it16:57
james_wNic2: can you describe the bug please?16:59
Nic2yes, i have a VAIO VGN-N250FH and i'm using an external Dell 22'' monitor, with the laptop screen switched off from the "Screen and Resolution" tool, i have Extra effects switched ON. From time to time without any special pattern my screen gets completely GRAY or BLACK. Music still working on the background but i'm unable to do anything else except CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to kill X, when the gdm restarts the screen remains BLACK17:02
sykehi17:03
Nic2I'm not really sure, but this happens when using EXTRA effects and MAYBE when having VirtualBox running17:03
sykeI'm concerned that with the release next week, two critical bugs I'm running into won't be fixed17:03
seb128Nic2: could be a video driver issue, which one do you use?17:04
bdmurraysyke: which 2 are those?17:04
Nic2Once it went black when adding a tab to firefox, another time when opening a menu in Rhythmbox, and another time when going to Next Song in it17:04
Nic2i have an intel 950 card i think17:04
sykehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/19755817:04
ubotuLaunchpad bug 197558 in linux "ssb module breaks BCM4328 with ndiswrapper (regression from 2.6.24-10)" [Medium,Confirmed]17:04
seb128Nic2: open a bug on xorg attaching the xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log and look in syslog too maybe if there is extra details there17:06
Nic2here https://bugs.launchpad.net/xorg/+bugs ?17:07
sykeand I ran into a new one on saturday when the -16 kernel was installed -- my X won't start up any more. booting into the -15 kernel fixes the problem17:07
sykeit appears as tho the nvidia kernel module doesn't load17:08
seb128Nic2: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+filebug17:08
sykeI've been using hardy for months with no nvidia driver problems, it just started on saturday17:09
greg-gsyke: is there a bug report for your nvidia problem?17:09
sykeI'm all up to date, tried several suggested things, nothing has fixed it so far17:09
sykegreg-g: I've been trying to find one, but there doesn't seem to be one so far17:09
greg-gsyke: then reporting it would help us tremendously17:10
Nic2thanks a lot seb128 continue the EXCELLENT work!!!17:10
greg-gsyke: be sure to include all the steps you already tried (and be explicit with the steps, logs would be great)17:10
seb128Nic2: you are welcome17:11
bdmurraysyke: there are few comments indicating that bug 197558 is fixed17:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 197558 in linux "ssb module breaks BCM4328 with ndiswrapper (regression from 2.6.24-10)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19755817:12
* greg-g just cut the number of mit-scheme bugs by two-thirds, woot! (yes, there were only 3 bugs)17:13
sykeah, found the nvidia problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/21577817:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 215778 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "2.6.24-16.30 kernel update - nvidia module fails to load" [Undecided,Invalid]17:15
sykewill try the fix it suggests. weird that it didn't come up in my previous launchpad searches17:15
bdmurrayInvalid bug reports are hidden from default searchs I believe.17:16
sykeah. it was a real bug, just resolved by replacing a bad package.17:17
sykeanyways, 197558 isn't fixed17:17
greg-gdo you get the error mentioned in the bug report? "nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel."17:18
greg-germ, thats not the error I mean17:18
greg-gsorry17:18
sykenever saw that with my nvidia issue, no. but it sounds like that one will be resolved.17:18
greg-gI misspoke, ignore me right now17:19
syke /ignore greg-g!*@*17:19
syke;)17:19
greg-g:)17:19
sykeon this ndiswrapper issue, I and several others still have the problem17:20
bdmurrayFrom what I saw the majority of the commenters in the bug you mentioned indicate it is resovled.17:21
sykeexcept for the last one before my newly added comment17:21
sykebrb17:37
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bdmurrayjames_w: just to be clear installing ca-certificates from proposed is enough to verify the fix for bug 153625?20:27
ubotuLaunchpad bug 153625 in ca-certificates "update-ca-certificates error. ca-certificates.crt empty (with pt_BR locale)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15362520:27
james_wbdmurray: yes, but the versions in proposed are not satisfactory.20:28
james_whow should that be reflected in the status? In progress?20:28
james_wthere's new versions there that are waiting for review and sponsoring in to -proposed20:29
bdmurrayAt a minimum removing the "verification-needed" tag should happen, but I also think marking all the tasks as "In Progress" would be appropriate.20:30
bdmurrayWell, maybe removing the SRU verification team too?  That is how the team ends up getting bug mail about it.20:32
james_wbdmurray: ok, thanks.20:41
james_wbdmurray: I can't unsubscribe the team, so you will have to do that if it is needed.20:41
bdmurrayI think it'll be fine with them subscribed20:42
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sbarjolahi all21:03
sbarjolaI have read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend but I don't know how should I triage this bugs?21:04
sbarjolashould ask the reporter to find the buggy driver?21:05
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Arbymvo: could you have a look at bug 18940621:59
ubotuLaunchpad bug 189406 in update-manager "[Hardy] Update Manager doesn't display package versions anymore" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18940621:59
Arbythere's a patch there, just wondering if it's any use22:00
bdmurrayArby: there is another bug like that, that I've commented on22:03
Arbybdmurray: any idea of bug number?22:04
bdmurrayI'm looking now22:04
bdmurraybug 18235022:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 182350 in update-manager "no longer reports installed and available versions" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18235022:05
Arbyreading22:06
bdmurraythat should probably be a dup of the one you've raised22:07
ArbyI was about to say the same having read it22:08
Arbywill do so22:09
bdmurraygreat, thanks!22:09
Arbythen it's mvo's decision22:09
bdmurrayI think we've talked about it before but don't recall the exact details22:10
Arbydone22:12
ArbyI'd test the patch if I knew how22:14
mvoArby: thanks, I check it out tomorrow, its already pretty late :/22:25
blueyedogasawara_: please don't close bugs where you've asked if it's still a problem in Hardy, before Hardy has been released.. give them a chance to upgrade and retest.. :)23:03
ogasawara_blueyed:  I've been going through reports which haven't received response in over a month.  they can easily reopen the report if the issue still exists once they upgrade.23:09
blueyedogasawara_: yes, it's not too rushed (like closing one week later), but why don't you wait until Hardy has been released (or maybe better), wait until the bug auto-invalidates (when being "Incomplete" for > 90 days)?23:11
blueyedblueyed: I just think that it's discouraging for the reporter.23:12
blueyedpff.. :p ogasawara_ ^^23:12
bdmurrayblueyed: Bugs don't auto-invalidate for Ubuntu23:12
ogasawara_blueyed: I see your point.  however, some that I closed had a last comment of over a year old so I had lost faith that I'd actually get a response.23:12
blueyedogasawara_: a year is totally valid.. I've seen just one with ~1month and it was a wishlist bug in fact..23:13
blueyedbdmurray: no?23:13
blueyedbdmurray: but they say that they get closed automatically in X days, don't they?23:14
ogasawara_blueyed: it says that but it doesn't actually happen23:14
bdmurrayblueyed: Yes, they don't get closed but yes they do say that.23:14
bdmurraytake bug 118204 as an example23:15
ubotuLaunchpad bug 118204 in kdeartwork "kfiresaver.kss chewing up 154% CPU" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11820423:15
bdmurraymarked for expiration 172 days ago23:15
blueyedah, I remember the discussion about this.. but they can easily get filtered, I suppose?23:15
bdmurrayWell, there isn't a bug propery that identifies them as expirable but there is a report of expirable bugs.  So I'd guess that be a significant workflow change for ogasawara_.23:17
bdmurraybug property even!23:17
bdmurrayYou mentioned a specific bug though, what bug was that?23:20
blueyedbug 7706423:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 77064 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "patch allowing lrm builds against custom kernels" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7706423:21
blueyedI'd like to see this myself.. therefore I've been subscribed there, but haven't checked if it's supported in the meantime..23:21
blueyedogasawara_: I hope you don't get me wrong.. I don't want to blame you or something, of course!23:22
ogasawara_blueyed: no worries :)  I'll open it back up.23:26
bdmurrayogasawara_: I like how you talk about how to reopen the bug too23:27
greg-gyeah, if anything, closing the bug might make people take notice even more and thus actually test and reply :)23:28
bdmurraygreg-g: howdy!23:29
greg-gbdmurray: howdy back atcha!23:30
bdmurraykees: Does bug 217369 apply to Hardy?23:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 217369 in inkscape "inkscape needs newer libcairo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21736923:31
greg-gso, I don't know if you look at the 5-a-day stats, but, you can tell that I am in the middle of writing papers and thus finding stuff to procrastinate with :)23:31
bdmurraygreg-g: well, thanks for helping out! ;)23:32
greg-gbdmurray: of course23:33
bdmurrayWere you saying you were upgrading to Hardy?23:34
keesbdmurray: probably, yeah.  though we don't have a cairo newer than 1.5.4, so it's likely a won't fix for hardy.23:34
bdmurraykees: that really should have been a new task for 215902 though right?23:35
greg-gbdmurray: my laptop has been on Hardy for a while, but now the desktop is also.  I'm on the desktop more so being able to do hardy bug testing at home is nice, without booting up the laptop23:36
keesbdmurray: yeah, I think so.23:39

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