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| jdong | hmm bug 86457 seems to have creeped back on Hardy :( | 01:05 |
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| ubotu | Launchpad bug 86457 in linux-source-2.6.20 "(maemo-on-ubuntu) Scratchbox does not work with latest Feisty kernel image" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86457 | 01:05 |
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| crimsun | amitk: has there been movement on the "offer a 'reset' button via gnome-media/mixer_applet2 for sound issues" idea tossed about some months ago? | 01:29 |
| blueyed | How are hardware specific kernel modules meant to be loaded? There's a autoload block in acpid's init script, but it does not match e.g. drivers/misc/fujitsu-laptop.ko. | 02:11 |
| blueyed | Would be nice, if you could provide a hint at bug 196683. Thanks. | 02:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 196683 in linux "fujitsu_laptop not loaded automatically on lifebook p7010" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196683 | 02:22 |
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| amitk | crimsun: it will be considered for intrepid, nothing for hardy | 07:07 |
| kraut | moin | 08:15 |
| === heno_away is now known as heno | ||
| tseliot | a quick question: which one of these kernels is realtime and/or xen-enabled? 'server', 'openvz', 'virtual' | 09:53 |
| abogani | tseliot: 'rt', 'xen' | 10:11 |
| tseliot | abogani: I would like to know more about the kernel flavours which I mentioned above | 10:13 |
| alex_joni | might be OT: is there going to be an upgrade path from dapper to hardy? | 10:14 |
| tseliot | abogani: since the nvidia driver and/or the fglrx driver can have problems with rt and xen-enabled kernels | 10:14 |
| abogani | tseliot: not with -rt. | 10:14 |
| alex_joni | abogani: maybe the other way around | 10:15 |
| alex_joni | abogani: having nvidia drivers interfering with -rt | 10:15 |
| tseliot | abogani: nvidia works well with -rt here however I'm not sure about fglrx | 10:16 |
| abogani | tseliot: fglrx should be work too but performance aren't good as like nvidia one. | 10:17 |
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| pepie34 | kool madwifi svn trunk seems to work again with -16 kernel build | 13:20 |
| pepie34 | (this was not the case with -14 et -15) | 13:21 |
| pepie34 | thanks for having corrected this regression | 13:21 |
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| bigcx2 | hey all | 15:47 |
| bigcx2 | i don't know if this is the appropriate outlet for this | 15:47 |
| bigcx2 | but i read the livecd customization guide on the wiki | 15:48 |
| bigcx2 | and it says to replace the kernel you just have to build a custom .deb and link it properly | 15:48 |
| bigcx2 | it seems like there has to be more to it than this | 15:49 |
| bigcx2 | do you have to mess with the udebs or anything like that? | 15:49 |
| BenC | bigcx2: udeb's are for alternate cd install, not livecd | 15:56 |
| BenC | bigcx2: so no | 15:56 |
| bigcx2 | ok | 15:56 |
| bigcx2 | well i'm trying this in feisty...and i've compiled a stock 2.6.20 kernel with the normal ubuntu live cd config...and i can get it to boot, etc. but it hangs on mounting the root filesystem | 15:57 |
| bigcx2 | and then it drops me into a busybox shell | 15:58 |
| bigcx2 | i have no clue why it would be failing there | 15:59 |
| bigcx2 | i figured i was missing some steps after i read this: | 16:00 |
| bigcx2 | http://dsplabs.utt.ro/~juve/blog/index.cgi/01147559232 | 16:00 |
| bigcx2 | mentions udebs and such | 16:00 |
| abogani | bigcx2: I suppose that you should rebuild lum also | 16:10 |
| abogani | BenC: Good Morning, Sir. | 16:11 |
| bigcx2 | lum? | 16:11 |
| amitk | bigcx2: did you build a initramfs? | 16:12 |
| bigcx2 | yes | 16:12 |
| amitk | lum=linux-ubuntu-modules - it contains modules that are not yet part of the kernel | 16:13 |
| bigcx2 | hm | 16:13 |
| amitk | bigcx2: what error did you get? any missing modules? | 16:13 |
| BenC | abogani: good morning | 16:14 |
| bigcx2 | i get up to the splash screen where it says: loading essential drivers [ok] | 16:15 |
| bigcx2 | running init-premount [ok] | 16:15 |
| bigcx2 | mounting root filesystem | 16:15 |
| bigcx2 | and then it waits for about 10 seconds before dropping the splash screen and spawning a busybox shell | 16:16 |
| bigcx2 | i don't understand though -- i'm using squashfs and ext3 and i have both of those compiled in properly | 16:17 |
| amitk | bigcx2: might be better if you remove the "quiet splash" from the kernel command-line to follow what is happening. | 16:17 |
| amitk | bigcx2: squashfs is in LUM | 16:17 |
| abogani | bigcx2: AFAIK Squashfs and unionfs modules are live and kicking in LUM but are required to be in initramfs file for boot livecd. | 16:19 |
| bigcx2 | i compiled it with all those ubuntu extras in | 16:19 |
| bigcx2 | hm | 16:20 |
| bigcx2 | well | 16:20 |
| bigcx2 | here's my steps | 16:20 |
| bigcx2 | compile default config (no mods) 2.6.20 | 16:20 |
| amitk | bigcx2: did you make sure that the initramfs contains squashfs? 'update-initramfs -u -v' will tell you | 16:21 |
| bigcx2 | make-kpkg | 16:21 |
| bigcx2 | amitk: no, thanks for the tip | 16:21 |
| bigcx2 | brb | 16:22 |
| bigcx2 | hey! looks like it's not in initrd | 16:27 |
| bigcx2 | does that mean i'm missing a make-kpkg option or such? | 16:29 |
| amitk | bigcx2: I don't know how to work with make-kpkg, sorry. I use Ubuntu's built-in build system | 16:31 |
| johanbr | bigcx2: make-kpkg is not a supported method of building Ubuntu kernels anymore. Try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile | 16:38 |
| johanbr | Should be okay for 2.6.20, though. | 16:39 |
| bigcx2 | mk | 16:40 |
| bigcx2 | hey all | 16:47 |
| bigcx2 | thanks for your help | 16:47 |
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| alex_joni | hmm, that is an old page.. should have said it's for breezy (it's outdated even for dapper..), but now bigcx2 is gone | 18:24 |
| rtg | smb_tp: your patch in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/212960/comments/22 is definitely the right thing to do, regardless if it fixes the cx88 bug. Please commit that to the LUM repo. | 18:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 212960 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "Hardy: cx88 NULL pointer dereference" [High,In progress] | 18:47 |
| smb_tp | rtg: Ok, I will commit that ASAP | 18:48 |
| rtg | BenC: we need a LUM upload today, before the RC is built. | 18:48 |
| rtg | BenC: perhaps that was more declarative then I intended. I think we need a LUM upload. What do you think? | 18:50 |
| smb_tp | rtg: He might be recovering from his trip | 18:51 |
| rtg | smb_tp: ok, I'll check back later today. If it hasn't been done, then I'll package it up sometime late this afternoon. | 18:53 |
| smb_tp | rtg: Ok, I make sure to commit the change to the makefiles | 18:54 |
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| amitk | jayc_: hi, good morning | 19:46 |
| amitk | inuka_desk: good morning | 19:46 |
| jayc_ | amitk:Hi | 19:49 |
| amitk | jayc_: do you have any thing else coming in the next 7-10 days? | 19:51 |
| amitk | and is inuka around? | 19:51 |
| jayc_ | For kernel I will have to check with China team if they are planning to make any changes | 19:55 |
| jayc_ | For now there is just one config change USB_PERSIST which is not yet in out BUILD | 19:56 |
| jayc_ | I will check with Alek (PRC) and let you know if he is planning to make any change | 19:56 |
| jayc_ | let me check if Inuka is around, it's lunch time here though | 19:57 |
| inuka_desk | amitk, morning.. sorry wasnt paying attention to irc. | 19:57 |
| inuka_desk | amitk, pushed libdrm... will push x driver. | 19:58 |
| amitk | jayc_: we already have PERSIST enabled. I am pushing a patch for it later today/tomorrow that will allow classmate to work too. | 19:58 |
| jayc_ | cool | 19:58 |
| amitk | inuka_desk: great... i'll push LUM to PPA if we don't upload a new one today. | 19:59 |
| mo__ | amitk, ok. any ideas which logs to consider for debugging? maybe an dmesg output after skipping the "loading device drivers" with Ctrl+alt+del !? | 19:59 |
| amitk | mo__: What is the output of 'apt-cache policy linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-generic' | 20:01 |
| mo__ | amitk, Installiert:2.6.24-16.22 | 20:01 |
| amitk | jayc_: inuka_desk: anything you guys want in hardy needs to come within this week. After that it will only go to PPA | 20:02 |
| jayc_ | amitk: got it :-) | 20:02 |
| amitk | mo__: very strange indeed. smb_tp: mo__ here still sees symptoms similar to those caused by your cx88 patch... | 20:03 |
| amitk | mo__: Could you go to /lib/modules/<kernel ver>/kernel/sound and move soundcore.ko out of the way. See if that fixes your 'hang' | 20:05 |
| mo__ | amitk, brb | 20:06 |
| amitk | k | 20:06 |
| smb_tp | amitk: my cx88 patch? you mean the one with the mutex problem? was not from me. but what prooblem lockup during boot? | 20:07 |
| amitk | smb_tp: right.. the same. I meant the one you are looking at.. | 20:12 |
| smb_tp | amitk: right. though -16.22 should be without that. Could also be some other hardware. Do we have output without splash and quiet? | 20:14 |
| alex_joni | alt-f1/f2 works early in the boot | 20:15 |
| amitk | smb_tp: he's gone for a reboot after removing soundcore.ko. That'll confirm if it is the same problem or not.. | 20:17 |
| smb_tp | amitk: Ok, lets see what happens | 20:18 |
| mo__ | amitk, it fixed the hang | 20:23 |
| amitk | mo__: you can restore soundcore.ko now. Are you sure that you see the hang with -16 though? | 20:28 |
| mo__ | amitk, yes it occured with -14 and -16, an now i've booted with -16 and it did'nt hang ... but without sound now ... of course! | 20:31 |
| smb_tp | Hm, sorry I am not completely up to date. So, it hangs with kernels between -14 and -16 and is related somehow to sound. Now it would be nice to have vm debugging... what sound hardware is there? something beside one soundcard? | 20:36 |
| mo__ | amitk, sorry i've been occupied | 20:53 |
| mo__ | amitk, any further ideas ? | 20:53 |
| amitk | mo__: smb_tp's questions ^^^ | 20:56 |
| mo__ | amitk, ok then, thank you so far | 20:57 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, i still got the soundcore.ko problem with the new linux-ubuntu-modules | 20:57 |
| smb_tp | mo__: Sure, I did catch that from your discussion with amit | 21:00 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, ok sorry, i didn't see that. Is there any output that might help? | 21:00 |
| smb_tp | mo__: Yes, generally what audio hw is there. More than one card/device? If booted without "quiet" and "splash" is the anything sticking out when the system is hanging | 21:03 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, i'v got an pci soundcard (audigy 2) and an onboard via rs780 sound chipset | 21:03 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, i'll try to disable (though i thought it is allready) the onboard card in the bios and report if there is anything during boot without quiet, brb | 21:05 |
| smb_tp | mo__: This or without those both options, maybe the last printed message does give some hint about which card is currently set up | 21:06 |
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| alex_joni | is it "normal" to have tons of "udevd" messages flashing by during boot? | 21:10 |
| alex_joni | (they don't show up in dmesg or syslog) | 21:10 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, so: it does hang if the onboard soundcard is DISABLED in bios. It hangs with "loading hardware drivers..." | 21:21 |
| smb_tp | mo__: This generic message comes even if you remove quiet and splash from the grub options line? | 21:24 |
| smb_tp | mo__: There actually two quiets: one single word somewhere and one on a line which specifies the initrd, kernel etc. | 21:27 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, yes yes i know, got some problems with the power supply atm | 21:29 |
| smb_tp | mo__: Sure, take your time | 21:30 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, i got some weird output: lot's of "call trace" with snd_pcm registers | 21:36 |
| smb_tp | mo__: That would be interesting. Can you save that and send it to me? Or if a bug report is open attach that? | 21:37 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, can i mail a dmesg output to you? | 21:57 |
| smb_tp | mo__: Sure stefan.bader@canonical.com | 21:57 |
| mo__ | german? | 21:58 |
| smb_tp | mo__: JanC | 21:58 |
| smb_tp | mo__: Oops command completion | 21:59 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, no sorry i just thought stefan bader might me a german name | 21:59 |
| smb_tp | mo__: Ist es auch :) | 21:59 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, achso .. ja | 21:59 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, so hab dmesg lspci uname und asound outputs angehängt | 22:10 |
| smb_tp | mo__: Ok, danke. Lets see... | 22:11 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, ich hab zu danken :-) | 22:11 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, er hängt bei 37.813198 , vor dem loop: module loaded | 22:14 |
| smb_tp | mo__: Just so that others (as amit) can understand too: there have been kernel oops involved. And the saa7134 driver. Which is one of those I suspect to have been compiled without the right headers | 22:18 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, ok. i do understand exactly nothing at that level :) | 22:19 |
| smb_tp | mo__: Could you try the lum version in my ppa? https://launchpad.net/~stefan-bader-canonical/+archive | 22:19 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, sure. just a moment.. | 22:22 |
| amitk | smb_tp: interesting... | 22:32 |
| smb_tp | amitk: what? | 22:33 |
| amitk | smb_tp: regarding the saa7134 drivers... | 22:33 |
| amitk | now I am down to a few more git bisects to find our problem child patch that kills classmate suspend :) | 22:34 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, with ur modules, it now really freezes :) | 22:36 |
| smb_tp | mo__: Any dying messages? | 22:37 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, yeah just the same ones, at [end trace ....] | 22:38 |
| mo__ | smb_tp, i did not really freeze, its just the same error | 22:38 |
| smb_tp | mo__: Hm, ok. Pity, it just sounds like a good trail. Seems I have to think a bit more. | 22:40 |
| mo__ | apt-cache policy linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-generic says "Installiert: 2.6.24-16.23ubuntu1" ... so i did correctly instal ur version !? | 22:40 |
| smb_tp | mo__: Sound like it did. Well, I am out of here for a while... | 22:41 |
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| mo__ | smb_tp, ok. strange :-) thank u bb | 22:42 |
| mo__ | if i should test smth, mo@uberhost.de | 22:43 |
| greearb | Hello. Anyone know how to create udebs for a standard kernel.org kernel using Ubuntu 7.10 or 8.04-beta? | 23:29 |
| greearb | I'm trying to remaster a live cd with a modified kernel and having no luck figuring out the udebs portion... | 23:29 |
| alex_joni | greearb: you working on an alternate install cd? | 23:30 |
| greearb | yes | 23:30 |
| alex_joni | I have some older info.. maybe it helps: http://dsplabs.cs.utt.ro/~juve/blog/index.cgi/01147559232 | 23:30 |
| alex_joni | (I used that back on breezy, when the default cd had udebs too..) | 23:31 |
| greearb | heh, found that already..but it seems linux-kernel-di-* doesn't work on the latest ubuntu | 23:31 |
| greearb | someone said the udebs were built automatically when the kernel is built..but I surely can't figure out how and can't find them anywhere when I build with make-kpkg | 23:32 |
| alex_joni | well.. that depends how you build it | 23:33 |
| alex_joni | if you build it with make-kpkg, you won't get udebs | 23:33 |
| alex_joni | if you build it using debian/rules then you can get them | 23:33 |
| greearb | ahhh, how to build it then? | 23:33 |
| alex_joni | but for that you need to start with the ubuntu kernel source | 23:34 |
| alex_joni | apt-get source linux-source-.. | 23:34 |
| greearb | ok, I can try that | 23:34 |
| alex_joni | (or grab it from git..) | 23:34 |
| alex_joni | greearb: it's past 1am here.. I won't be around long.. | 23:34 |
| greearb | no problem | 23:34 |
| alex_joni | good luck though ;) | 23:35 |
| greearb | let me reboot back into 7.10, I had already backported my changes to their 2.6.22 kernel | 23:35 |
| alex_joni | I used a custom flavour for the stuff I did | 23:35 |
| greearb | you wrote that blog? | 23:35 |
| alex_joni | that way I don't collide with ubuntu version numbers & all | 23:35 |
| alex_joni | greearb: yeah, a while ago :) | 23:35 |
| greearb | ok, ignore my email if it ever gets to you..I tried to bother you earlier today :) | 23:36 |
| alex_joni | ok, I will | 23:36 |
| alex_joni | seems it was in 2006 when I wrote that | 23:36 |
| greearb | do you happen to know if I need any arguments to the debian/rules command ? | 23:37 |
| alex_joni | yeah, you surely do | 23:38 |
| alex_joni | I used: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=2 NOEXTRAS=1 fakeroot debian/rules custom-binary-rtai | 23:39 |
| alex_joni | (because I only wanted the custom flavour I added, called rtai, and only the binary package) | 23:40 |
| alex_joni | but you probably want: ... debian/rules binary-udebs | 23:40 |
| greearb | no rule to make that target | 23:41 |
| alex_joni | which one? | 23:41 |
| greearb | binary-udebs or binary-udeb | 23:42 |
| alex_joni | greearb: look in debian/rules, over here it includes debian/rules.d/5-udebs.mk | 23:43 |
| alex_joni | you maybe want to create debian/control first.. | 23:43 |
| greearb | what version of kernel source? there is a debian/ruleset/ dir in my .22 kernel | 23:44 |
| alex_joni | hmm.. I'm looking at .24 (from hardy) | 23:44 |
| greearb | ok, I can forward port if needed, let me reboot back into hardy | 23:45 |
| greearb | it's surely easier to port kernel code than figure out how to build live-cds :) | 23:46 |
| greearb | hrm, nothing at all in the debian/ dir after 'apt-get install linux-source' and tar -xvjf ... | 23:56 |
| alex_joni | I said apt-get source linux-source | 23:59 |
| alex_joni | not apt-get install linux-source | 23:59 |
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