| tgm4883_laptop | c3rb3rus5, please file a bugreport with hardware.conf, lircd.conf and .lircrc | 00:01 |
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| c3rb3rus5 | k | 00:01 |
| c3rb3rus5 | where is hardware.conf? /etc/? | 00:01 |
| tgm4883_laptop | err, /etc/lirc/hardware.conf | 00:01 |
| tgm4883_laptop | that or | 00:01 |
| tgm4883_laptop | locate hardware.conf | 00:01 |
| c3rb3rus5 | ok | 00:01 |
| Seeker` | someone said they had their remote set up to kill mythfrontend with pkill -9, can anyone remember who it was? | 00:11 |
| Kargarian | hey, anyone know the settings for displaying X on a 24" tv. or where I can find it? | 00:37 |
| famicom | yeah | 00:37 |
| famicom | i do | 00:37 |
| Kargarian | Where is that? | 00:37 |
| famicom | depends | 00:37 |
| Kargarian | xorg.conf | 00:37 |
| famicom | drivers, tv ty[e | 00:37 |
| famicom | max resolution | 00:37 |
| famicom | which connector | 00:37 |
| Kargarian | ivtv is the driver | 00:37 |
| famicom | yeah and what connection are you using at which resolution | 00:38 |
| Kargarian | pvr350 using comp | 00:38 |
| Kargarian | not sure the resoultion | 00:39 |
| famicom | oh | 00:39 |
| famicom | nice | 00:39 |
| famicom | Does that card work well? | 00:39 |
| Kargarian | yeah | 00:39 |
| Kargarian | works great, finally, just need to figure out how to resize x | 00:40 |
| Kargarian | i guess i would need to change the mode within xorg.conf for the 350 | 00:41 |
| famicom | http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Main_Page | 00:41 |
| Kargarian | ok i will check that out | 00:42 |
| savageone | howdie folks | 01:32 |
| savageone | I'm trying to install a secondary backend | 01:32 |
| savageone | w/ frontend etc | 01:32 |
| savageone | I was originallyu going to just do a frontend to my main box in the living room in my bedroom but I've got a hard drive in here so I figured I'd do a secondary backend because I figured that takes some processing power off the front one? | 01:32 |
| savageone | either way, I'm at the poiint where it's asking for the master backends mysql info | 01:33 |
| savageone | and I got it from the mysql text time, but it's not taking it | 01:33 |
| savageone | and I know it's the right info because it's all in the damned file | 01:33 |
| savageone | any ideas why this would happen | 01:33 |
| savageone | if I want to mount an nfs share from another machine to this machines mythtv/videos directory what's the syntax for that? | 02:03 |
| tgm4883_laptop | savageone, look at ubuntuguide.org | 02:09 |
| savageone | thanks | 02:09 |
| c3rb3rus5 | think that i might be taking the plunge and installing ubuntu on the main comp when 8.04 comes out | 02:12 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | c3rb3rus5: what are you running now? | 02:12 |
| c3rb3rus5 | xp x64 | 02:13 |
| c3rb3rus5 | hence... the plunge | 02:13 |
| c3rb3rus5 | the only thing really keeping me are the games that i rarely play, and the very few win only devices that can most likely be used in a vm | 02:14 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | only game I play these days is tremulous... but I will be buying sc2 ;) | 02:15 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | I dont think I have any devices that dont work in ubuntu.... | 02:15 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | even the vodafone 3g card works | 02:15 |
| c3rb3rus5 | harmony remote, as far as i know, does not work in linux | 02:15 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | sweet remote.. yeah just run a vm for the odd ball thing like that | 02:17 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | http://www.phildev.net/phil/blog/index.php?title=harmony_software_for_linux_is_here&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 | 02:20 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | http://sourceforge.net/projects/harmonycontrol/ | 02:21 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | lol | 02:21 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | ask and you shall recive | 02:21 |
| c3rb3rus5 | i see | 02:21 |
| c3rb3rus5 | the sourceforge link is dead | 02:21 |
| c3rb3rus5 | there are progs in linux to update / use ipods, right? | 02:22 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | yes ipods | 02:22 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | looking at link yes its dead... try this one http://www.phildev.net/harmony/ | 02:24 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | looks like a nmae change | 02:24 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | banshee can do ipods i think rythembox can too ipod in synaptic returns quire a few hits | 02:26 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | Apple do have a tendency to mess with ipod firmware fairly often breaking everything except itunes | 02:28 |
| savageone | so when you're setting up a master backend I see it's pretty much required that you do the advanced option since it doesn't assume to setup mysql with the default install to facilitate the whole frontend deal here | 02:30 |
| savageone | can I pop the cd in and do a sort of overinstall where it keeps my settings but allows me to change that part of the setup? | 02:30 |
| tgm4883_laptop | a standard install should install the FE/BE and a mysql server and set that up | 02:31 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ie, on a single system setup, all you should have to do is install the standard install | 02:31 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | On my older mythtv setups I had to allow mysql to be accessed from a remote machine.. it was locked down to local only by default.... | 02:33 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | maybe check that | 02:33 |
| savageone | I'm using the beta of the newest one | 02:34 |
| savageone | it's failing on connecting to the mythbackend with all the default stuff | 02:34 |
| savageone | I'm not too skilled with the mysql stuff I'm trying to figure out why it's not authenticating | 02:34 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | try using mysql from the command line | 02:35 |
| ahave | i noticed the SAMBA configure already made the smb.conf file for me... could someone explain what the directory mask option is used for? | 02:35 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | see if you can connect | 02:35 |
| savageone | let me ask you this | 02:35 |
| savageone | if I can connect to the box from windows with \\mythtv | 02:35 |
| savageone | chances are that's it'sm hostname correct | 02:35 |
| tgm4883_laptop | savageone, try using the ip | 02:36 |
| savageone | not to mention when I run the hostname command that comes up | 02:36 |
| savageone | k I'll try that now | 02:36 |
| savageone | looks like that might have worked | 02:37 |
| savageone | but that's messed up because it didn't work from the frontend cd or any of that | 02:39 |
| savageone | currently I'm doing testing with vmware because I got sick of grabbign stuff | 02:39 |
| tgm4883_laptop | savageone, did you enable the mysql service in MCC | 02:41 |
| savageone | yes | 02:44 |
| savageone | I believe so | 02:44 |
| savageone | I gotta check | 02:44 |
| savageone | I think I'm giving up for the night | 02:44 |
| savageone | I'm thinking one other factor is i didn't set up my tuner yet on the backend | 02:44 |
| savageone | it's there I just didn't configure it ebcause I don't really watch a lot of tv it's more for my media | 02:44 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | savageone: setup the tuner you'll be suprised | 02:45 |
| savageone | I already had it set up | 02:45 |
| savageone | I test every new version I'm like a chronic guinea pig | 02:45 |
| savageone | I've used like 7 different mythtv diustros hhehe | 02:46 |
| savageone | I'm messing with setting up frontends now I never got the hang of it | 02:46 |
| savageone | funny thing is, setting it up with the ip seemed to work | 02:46 |
| savageone | amnd I opened my videos here and it's reading them from the master backend | 02:46 |
| savageone | I didn't think it would mount the data on it's own, I'm impressed | 02:46 |
| savageone | but, my permissions are messed | 02:46 |
| savageone | maybe it's just reading these titles from the mysql db and the files aren't really there that's why they won't play? either that or they don't have permission | 02:47 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | check the /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log | 02:48 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | on the backend machine | 02:49 |
| savageone | so like I should be able to go to /var/lib/mythtv/videos on the frontend and it should show my videos from the backend there right? | 02:50 |
| savageone | since it's supposed to be setup as a mount | 02:50 |
| savageone | or is that not how the video manager handles it | 02:50 |
| savageone | yeah it's definitely reading the database which is good | 02:51 |
| savageone | but it's not mounting the files so I gotta learn that and I've got it down | 02:51 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | no it streams the video from the backend | 02:51 |
| tgm4883_laptop | mythvideo does not stream via the mythtv protocol, you must mount via cifs or nfs first | 02:52 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | there is mythfuse... or you could just use the samba sharing | 02:52 |
| tgm4883_laptop | in .22 it should use the mythtv protocol | 02:52 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | tgm4883_laptop: then how does toem read it? | 02:53 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | totem | 02:53 |
| savageone | I'm doing samba ususally | 02:53 |
| savageone | but what is mythfuse? | 02:53 |
| tgm4883_laptop | KillerKiwi2005, explain what you mean? | 02:53 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | savageone: its called mythtvfs now | 02:53 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | tgm4883_laptop: totem can view mythtv without mounting anuything | 02:54 |
| savageone | yeah I'll just mount | 02:54 |
| savageone | I'm mainly using mythvideo | 02:54 |
| tgm4883_laptop | KillerKiwi2005, mythvideo != recordings | 02:55 |
| savageone | but you're saying the tv shows recorded with the tuner in pvr style are not needing that that's the mysql connection deal right? | 02:55 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | ahh soryy yes :) | 02:55 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | yeah i only use recordings | 02:55 |
| savageone | I hear ya | 02:55 |
| savageone | I'm a collector ;) | 02:55 |
| savageone | the new music player is way better | 02:55 |
| savageone | it'll get better don't get me wrong but compared to before? | 02:56 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | yes.. but you cant change the volume when not on the music screen | 02:56 |
| savageone | true | 02:56 |
| savageone | my volume doesn't work on the music screen at all | 02:57 |
| savageone | you could I suppose if you had a receiver setup | 02:57 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | very anoying... | 02:57 |
| savageone | hey man can you give me the syntax to mount a samba share that's at \\mythtv\videos to /var/lib/mythtv/videos | 02:57 |
| savageone | I can't remember | 02:57 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.2/Music /home/dbott/Music -o iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 | 02:58 |
| tgm4883_laptop | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288534 | 02:58 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ^^ depending on what type of authentication you have it should be listed here | 02:59 |
| savageone | thanks | 03:00 |
| tgm4883_laptop | KillerKiwi2005, I haven't used totem to connect to my backend, how well does it work? | 03:00 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | tgm4883_laptop: not very it hangs for like 5mins downloading the playlist and thumbnails.. also you cant fastforward or rewind... it does show promise though | 03:00 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ah | 03:01 |
| tgm4883_laptop | how do you set it up? or is it good to go by default? | 03:01 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | you need to edit some gconf values there is no UI yet | 03:02 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ah ok | 03:02 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | I think you'd call it in trial mode | 03:02 |
| tgm4883_laptop | i'll google around and see what I can get | 03:02 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | ill get the keys if you want them | 03:02 |
| tgm4883_laptop | sounds good | 03:03 |
| tgm4883_laptop | i've added the extra plugins and activated the mythtv plugin | 03:03 |
| tgm4883_laptop | but it doesn't find anything. Although I haven't setup where to look | 03:03 |
| tgm4883_laptop | are those the keys you are talking about? | 03:03 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | look here http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/images/gconf_editor_totem.preview.png | 03:04 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | elisa can also stream from a mythbackend | 03:07 |
| ahave | i noticed when browsing the program guide.. it takes a LONG time to scroll channels, how can i speed this up? | 03:07 |
| savageone | it's workin | 03:08 |
| savageone | I'm off to bed fellas | 03:08 |
| savageone | thanks for the help! | 03:08 |
| tgm4883_laptop | KillerKiwi2005, really? I didn't think that was possible yet. Is there an actual mythtv plugin for elisa? | 03:09 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | no it uses uPnP | 03:09 |
| tgm4883_laptop | hmm, this is kinda slow, and it doesn't appear to be any sort of order for the list of shows | 03:09 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ah | 03:10 |
| tgm4883_laptop | someone needs to write a proper plugin for it, that would be awesome | 03:10 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | it cant fast forward etheir though.... if the fixed that and added a schedular id use elisa as my front end | 03:10 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | tgm4883_laptop: true but I guess it proof of concept that it works | 03:11 |
| tgm4883_laptop | well not really. It is just the upnp portion that is working. But that works for lots of things | 03:12 |
| tgm4883_laptop | The totem thing looks nice, but I get the same functionality from the asx stream and I think I prefer that as it's easier to sort or pick a show | 03:12 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | yes... but elisa is very nice looking... | 03:12 |
| tgm4883_laptop | elisa is nice looking, and with gmyth it is possible to code a plugin for it. Someone just needs to do it | 03:13 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | they should just use the mythback end, i cant believe that they really want to write a new schedular multirec etc | 03:14 |
| tgm4883_laptop | me neither | 03:16 |
| superm1 | elisa talks myth? | 03:20 |
| superm1 | since when? | 03:20 |
| tgm4883_laptop | no | 03:20 |
| superm1 | oh | 03:20 |
| tgm4883_laptop | elisa talks gstreamer, | 03:20 |
| superm1 | oh and gstreamer talks myth | 03:20 |
| tgm4883_laptop | gmyth libraries for mythtv | 03:21 |
| tgm4883_laptop | although elisa is a upnp client | 03:21 |
| superm1 | so it can play myth stuff | 03:21 |
| superm1 | does it work well? | 03:21 |
| * tgm4883_laptop shrugs | 03:21 | |
| tgm4883_laptop | apparently it only does recordings and music | 03:21 |
| superm1 | <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, this is kinda slow, and it doesn't appear to be any sort of order for the list of shows | 03:21 |
| superm1 | :) | 03:21 |
| superm1 | so is it worth playing with? | 03:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | oh, heh | 03:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | that was directed towards totem | 03:22 |
| superm1 | oh | 03:22 |
| superm1 | yeah that too | 03:22 |
| superm1 | it's kinda silly | 03:22 |
| tgm4883_laptop | I don't think the totem plugin is worth it ATM | 03:22 |
| superm1 | well if gmyth-upnp was in | 03:22 |
| superm1 | it would have been | 03:22 |
| superm1 | woah wtf? | 03:23 |
| superm1 | elisa is in main??? | 03:23 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | elisa is in luanchpad now as well | 03:23 |
| tgm4883_laptop | being that i get the same functionality grabbing the asx stream from mythweb | 03:23 |
| tgm4883_laptop | it is? | 03:23 |
| superm1 | yeah it is | 03:23 |
| superm1 | someone must be planning a product around this | 03:23 |
| superm1 | or something | 03:23 |
| tgm4883_laptop | wouldn't doubt it, it's in UMC isnt' it? | 03:23 |
| superm1 | oh i bet this is targetted at ubuntu-mobile | 03:24 |
| superm1 | that's probably why | 03:24 |
| superm1 | damn slick products | 03:24 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | that would be slick elisa on a mobile | 03:24 |
| superm1 | honestly it is a lot more slick than myth | 03:25 |
| superm1 | interface wise | 03:25 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | yes.. yes it is | 03:25 |
| superm1 | wow playing videos and navigating menus at the same time? | 03:25 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | and it uses all the gnome goodness stack... gstreamer etc | 03:25 |
| superm1 | crazyness. | 03:25 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | needs a "good" myth plugin for scheduling etc | 03:26 |
| superm1 | honestly, if someone came up with some myth stuff for the frontend in this | 03:26 |
| superm1 | it would make a compelling argument as a frontend | 03:27 |
| * tgm4883_laptop doesn't know python | 03:28 | |
| superm1 | ha neat. even a slick youtube plugin | 03:28 |
| superm1 | i've already crashed it 4 times though just using it | 03:28 |
| superm1 | so it's not stable yet, but yeah tgm4883, go learn yourself some python | 03:29 |
| * tgm4883_laptop is installing it | 03:29 | |
| superm1 | and write a myth plugin for it | 03:29 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | im sure i've seen a python-mythtv module | 03:29 |
| superm1 | yeah there are python bindings for libmyth | 03:29 |
| superm1 | so actually might be more feasible than anticipated | 03:29 |
| superm1 | man i crashed it hard enough that it won't die from kill -9 though | 03:30 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | is there a mythlib site? | 03:31 |
| superm1 | website? | 03:31 |
| superm1 | what do you mean? | 03:31 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | http://gmyth.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page | 03:31 |
| superm1 | oh that's gmyth yeah | 03:31 |
| superm1 | gmyth is a third party layer - that's how totem learned to speak myth | 03:32 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | libmyth is part of mythtv proper? | 03:32 |
| superm1 | yes | 03:33 |
| superm1 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReports/Elisa | 03:33 |
| superm1 | interesting they have pylirc | 03:34 |
| superm1 | which is a python binding to lirc | 03:34 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | its what gnome-lirc-properties uses... | 03:35 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | all the parts are there... wierd | 03:35 |
| superm1 | well it's not a dependency to gnome-lirc-properties | 03:36 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | libmyth is all sql statmenets..... | 03:37 |
| superm1 | but it's meare existance means that we can probably expand mcc to use a remote at some point | 03:37 |
| superm1 | well libmythtv and libmyth | 03:37 |
| superm1 | or do you mean gmyth? | 03:37 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | libmyth python | 03:38 |
| superm1 | ah | 03:38 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | no method for scheduling a recording... | 03:38 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | onyl getting current recordings... | 03:39 |
| superm1 | well that can be expanded upon | 03:39 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | yes.. it would have to be | 03:39 |
| superm1 | well and there is always the fact that we have gloss coming | 03:40 |
| superm1 | and a mythtv FE in QT4 later this next release | 03:40 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | is it just my perception or is development speeding up across the board... | 03:41 |
| superm1 | i think it's just because these were all brought up in the same conversation :) | 03:41 |
| superm1 | I really think though that someone will need to expand on the myth bindings, or myth is going to fall behind these other projects at some point | 03:41 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | seems like a lot of new stuff happening | 03:42 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | ... myth needs a new ui... its starting to look very 90's | 03:43 |
| superm1 | that's what QT4 is gonna be | 03:43 |
| superm1 | it really won't compare to clutter i expect though | 03:43 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | no... | 03:44 |
| superm1 | ah and gloss can finally do tv too | 03:47 |
| superm1 | i'll stand by my belief that these separate efforts are bad in general | 03:48 |
| superm1 | yeah these projects have different goals | 03:48 |
| superm1 | but this style of development, no one will succeed | 03:48 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | does gloss use myth? | 03:50 |
| superm1 | the goal for it is a drop in replacement for myth-frontend | 03:50 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | thats a big goal | 03:51 |
| tgm4883_laptop | on the other hand, if they used the same underlying elements (the backend) they could be very good together | 03:51 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | what does it use gstreamer? | 03:51 |
| superm1 | well the problem is that myth's architecture for the backend doesn't bode well with all these projects | 03:51 |
| superm1 | it doesnt use hal/dbus at all | 03:51 |
| superm1 | and it doesn't use gstreamer at all | 03:51 |
| superm1 | just its own integrated ffmpeg | 03:52 |
| superm1 | and raw access to devices | 03:52 |
| superm1 | so its not a good community player in that sense | 03:52 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | its in python as well | 03:52 |
| superm1 | mythbackend? | 03:52 |
| superm1 | no it's in C++ | 03:52 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | gloss | 03:52 |
| superm1 | oh yeah | 03:52 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | dosnt look like they have done any work on the schedular... | 03:53 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | gloss should fold into elisa as a plugin | 03:54 |
| superm1 | yeah | 03:55 |
| superm1 | that would be the perfect solution | 03:55 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | dont really need another music player or slideshow... just do the scheduling and playback from mythbackend | 03:55 |
| superm1 | and in the playback, comm skipping :) | 03:56 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | guess which bits the easiest ;) | 03:56 |
| superm1 | well do you see this gloss guy soaking up his pride and doing that though? | 03:57 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | nope | 03:57 |
| superm1 | ideal world | 03:59 |
| superm1 | man | 03:59 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | ohh... hes got the tv guide http://code.google.com/p/gloss-mc/source/browse/trunk/modules/myth_tv_player/tv_db_controller.py | 03:59 |
| tgm4883_laptop | poor guy | 04:00 |
| tgm4883_laptop | he's the only one in #gloss | 04:00 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | lol | 04:00 |
| superm1 | well the problem with gstreamer as a backend | 04:02 |
| superm1 | it can only handle v4l2 | 04:03 |
| superm1 | whereas myth can talk firewire, IP tv, network, and directly to some usb devicii | 04:03 |
| superm1 | in "addition" to v4l2 | 04:03 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | only use gstreamer for mythfrontend | 04:03 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | leave mythbackend alone | 04:04 |
| superm1 | well i wonder if that would be enough to rip out all this nasty ffmpeg code that is hardcoded into myth | 04:05 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | the backend would still need an encoder.... | 04:05 |
| superm1 | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/GMyth | 04:05 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | but playback would be fixed | 04:05 |
| superm1 | interesting, so gmyth's goals are a little larger | 04:06 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | that actaully does what is needed | 04:07 |
| superm1 | yeah | 04:07 |
| superm1 | i still don't think it's a proper solution though | 04:08 |
| superm1 | the way it's implemented at least | 04:08 |
| superm1 | well if i had a combination of additional time and/or intelligence with gstreamer and/or ffmpeg code, i think that this would be a neat project to uptake: porting gstreamer into myth | 04:09 |
| superm1 | to rip out as much ffmpeg as possible | 04:09 |
| superm1 | or at least make it less dependent upon it slowly | 04:09 |
| superm1 | last time there was a big gaping void missing to me though, a distro resulted out of it | 04:12 |
| superm1 | i better stop speculating | 04:12 |
| tgm4883_laptop | lol | 04:12 |
| tgm4883_laptop | no mythgbuntu? | 04:13 |
| superm1 | well myth already has its gaping holes of the big SQL dependency | 04:13 |
| superm1 | which is probably more critical | 04:13 |
| superm1 | and it's tight reliance on things internally to QT, where it shouldnt be | 04:14 |
| superm1 | making it a behemoth memory wise | 04:14 |
| tgm4883_laptop | but no real alternatives | 04:14 |
| superm1 | that's not the right answer | 04:15 |
| superm1 | no one has stepped up to clean it up is | 04:15 |
| tgm4883_laptop | exactly | 04:15 |
| tgm4883_laptop | hopefully that will happen though | 04:15 |
| superm1 | Scott D. brought this up on -users actually | 04:15 |
| superm1 | he's the one who got linux to natively boot and run mythbuntu on his apple tv | 04:15 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ah | 04:16 |
| tgm4883_laptop | not sure I could live without my mythbox | 04:16 |
| superm1 | after the ugly4 dust settles he said he would look through the code and start submitting patches where it needs cleaning | 04:16 |
| superm1 | what we need to do is find a CS student that needs a senior project | 04:17 |
| tgm4883_laptop | heh | 04:17 |
| tgm4883_laptop | <--- IS Student | 04:17 |
| superm1 | and mak... er i mean ask him to get gstreamer used inside myth | 04:17 |
| superm1 | what's IS mean? | 04:17 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | yeah... i want to mess with dvb-t on the card but when can I take it down ..... | 04:17 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Information Systems | 04:17 |
| superm1 | so that means you need a senior project right? | 04:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | plus all we learn at this school is java | 04:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | already had my senior project | 04:18 |
| tgm4883_laptop | basically, IS people are project managers/consultants | 04:18 |
| superm1 | eh close enough. most of gstreamer code looks like another language anyway | 04:18 |
| superm1 | the best example of how to port it over would probably look at totem code for how it can use either xine or gstreamer as a backend | 04:19 |
| superm1 | tgm4883_laptop, here you go http://ooboontoo.blogspot.com/2008/03/gstreamer-with-python-in-qt-learning-by.html | 04:19 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | kde ppl would probably make noise about (is it phonon?) | 04:19 |
| superm1 | oh wtf is phnon? | 04:20 |
| superm1 | is that a gstreamer like thing for KDE? | 04:20 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | they have an abstration layer over gstreamer.... | 04:21 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | why... i dont know | 04:21 |
| superm1 | well it blends well with QT stuff it looks like | 04:25 |
| superm1 | so perhaps that is what it boils down to? | 04:25 |
| KillerKiwi2005 | i guess so... im not sold on all kde4 stuff yet.... | 04:26 |
| tgm4883_laptop | BAH!! | 04:26 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Head on apply directly to forehead | 04:26 |
| janne | I have problen with latest mythtv version. | 09:28 |
| janne | Sory my english, The mythbackend is on all the time and th hd light is blinking. | 09:30 |
| janne | and when I start backend I get a errormessage No UPnP backend found. | 09:43 |
| janne | and when i install it: Failed to create database (incorrect admin username/password?) | 09:44 |
| sebrock | MythVideo doesnt rely on the mythbackend for playing videos right? Its done entierly from the frontend via NFS mount or equal? | 12:00 |
| sebrock | because I have wierd MythWeb behavior right now as it tries to access videos trough a frontend NFS mount and not locally... | 12:02 |
| === bronson_ is now known as bronson | ||
| Pasteurized | hi all | 16:37 |
| Pasteurized | I've found many forum posts about errors while setting up database after mythbuntu install, but no complete answer | 16:39 |
| Pasteurized | do you know where this common question is answered ? | 16:39 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Pasteurized, did you have a root password setup for mysql? | 16:43 |
| Pasteurized | finaly I found this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Troubleshooting | 16:50 |
| Pasteurized | but i dont really know if a should use mythtv or root user | 16:51 |
| Pasteurized | what is the most common tgm4883_laptop ? | 16:51 |
| directhex | never use root unless you have a damn good reason | 16:52 |
| Pasteurized | yep, not a bad idea :) | 16:52 |
| Pasteurized | it still doesnt want to connect to the DB ... :/ | 17:11 |
| Pasteurized | annoying | 17:11 |
| === rhpot1991_lapto1 is now known as rhpot1991_laptop | ||
| sluggervillan | Hello! | 20:15 |
| sluggervillan | Wow, I just discovered this version, will it fix my problems with Hapenauge PVR-150 | 20:15 |
| sluggervillan | I'm stoked, Is there a list of supportted tuners for MythBuntu? | 20:17 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | pvr-xxx's should work out of the box | 20:18 |
| sluggervillan | rhpot1991_laptop: Thank you! I was doing some reading it does look so. | 20:25 |
| sluggervillan | #, I do have the PVR-1250 too, has anyone had luck with that card? Discussions on it are conflicted! | 20:26 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | my 150 and 350 work painlessly | 20:26 |
| sluggervillan | Thats great! | 20:26 |
| sluggervillan | Well worse case, I'll remove my 1250 and put the 150 back! (1250 is PCIe) | 20:27 |
| sluggervillan | or just leave them both in the box! | 20:27 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | sluggervillan: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_HVR-1250 | 20:28 |
| sluggervillan | ahhhh, nice, lemme check it! | 20:28 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | seems to indicate the digital portion of it is working | 20:29 |
| sluggervillan | I use it in windows now, seems to pull in digitals (QAM) right off the line! | 20:32 |
| sluggervillan | So I guess that will be good, I'll set the 150 for analog and teh 1250 to snag what it can in digital! Hummm! | 20:32 |
| vavincavent | hi all | 20:53 |
| tgm4883_laptop | hi | 20:53 |
| vavincavent | i've installed mythbuntu | 20:53 |
| vavincavent | but without input card | 20:54 |
| vavincavent | just with radeon ve700 graphic card, with tv out | 20:54 |
| vavincavent | i have a satellite demodulator | 20:55 |
| vavincavent | and i want to put it in my mythvavincaventbox | 20:55 |
| vavincavent | witch card can i have for input? | 20:56 |
| directhex | you have digital satelite? | 20:57 |
| vavincavent | yes | 20:58 |
| directhex | and you want to tune into it directly with your pc, or use a set-top box? | 20:58 |
| vavincavent | http://worldsat.rtfm.be/contenus.php?id=235 | 20:58 |
| vavincavent | sorry for my english, i'm french, so ..tune? set-top? | 20:59 |
| directhex | that's a set-top box | 20:59 |
| directhex | in which case you need 1) to use the analog video output of the set-top box, 2) to get a tv card which can capture that analog output (e.g. a hauppauge pvr150), 3) to use an 'ir blaster' which emulates a tv remote and sends 'change channel' signals to the set-top box when myth needs to change channel | 21:00 |
| vavincavent | "ir blaster"?? | 21:02 |
| directhex | i gave a description already. i don't see why i should repeat myself, nor why you can't google it yourself | 21:02 |
| vavincavent | ok sorry | 21:02 |
| vavincavent | actually, i put signal tv out by s-video to my set-top box, can i let it like this? | 21:03 |
| directhex | i don't understand. | 21:04 |
| vavincavent | mythbuntu is connected to my set-up box through peritel convertor/s-video | 21:05 |
| vavincavent | set-top box | 21:06 |
| directhex | SCART. | 21:06 |
| directhex | okay, i'm utterly lost now. what is it exactly you want to do? | 21:07 |
| vavincavent | i want to put signal from my set-top box to mythbuntu | 21:08 |
| vavincavent | ... | 21:08 |
| directhex | <directhex> in which case you need 1) to use the analog video output of the set-top box, 2) to get a tv card which can capture that analog output (e.g. a hauppauge pvr150), 3) to use an 'ir blaster' which emulates a tv remote and sends 'change channel' signals to the set-top box when myth needs to change channel | 21:08 |
| vavincavent | ok, when i see what i have to explain, i know how funny is my question!! | 21:09 |
| tgm4883_laptop | vavincavent, buy a pvr150, use ir blasting to change the channel | 21:09 |
| directhex | but i would personally tune directly into the satellite & skip the set-top box, assuming your contract with your satellite provider allows you to do this | 21:09 |
| tgm4883_laptop | ^^ +1 | 21:09 |
| vavincavent | ok, thanks to all, it's difficult for me to explain and i know difficult to you to understand!!! | 21:10 |
| vavincavent | i think i've understood | 21:10 |
| directhex | vavincavent, mythtv *is* a set-top box. what you want to do is possible, and many people do it, but mythtv is there to *replace* your set-top box - you would no longer be able to use the functionality of the box without causing problems | 21:10 |
| directhex | also, use french if need be. my spelling sucks though | 21:10 |
| vavincavent | ahhh | 21:11 |
| vavincavent | tu parles français!! | 21:11 |
| directhex | je parle francais. je ne l'ecrit pas. | 21:11 |
| vavincavent | actuellement mon démodulateur satellite décode les chaines criptées, je ne pense pas pouvoir le faire via la mythbuntubox | 21:12 |
| vavincavent | donc je souhaite envoyer le signal du démodulateur vers la mythbuntubox | 21:13 |
| directhex | avez-vous une carte pour access aux chaines cyiptees, ou c'est fait illegalement? | 21:13 |
| vavincavent | euh, je n'ai pas de carte, ça suffit comme réponse? | 21:14 |
| directhex | dans ce cas, c'est la solution deja donne. carte come la hauppauge pvr150, connection svideo, et ir-blaster pour que la boite myth peut changer la chaine. | 21:16 |
| vavincavent | ok, merci directhex de tes efforts | 21:16 |
| vavincavent | thanks directhex for your explain | 21:21 |
| vavincavent | wich differencies betwen pvr150 and pvr150mce | 21:24 |
| vavincavent | ? | 21:24 |
| directhex | connectors & bundle | 21:26 |
| vavincavent | wich one is the best for me? | 21:28 |
| directhex | the mce. | 21:36 |
| directhex | it comes with an ir blaster | 21:36 |
| directhex | (and remote) | 21:36 |
| directhex | hm, wait | 21:36 |
| directhex | the "150 mce" has no remote at all, the "150 mce kit" has remote with blaster | 21:37 |
| directhex | the 150 has remote without blaster | 21:37 |
| directhex | confused yet? | 21:37 |
| rhpot1991_laptop | the retail 150 box comes with a blaster and hauppauge remote last I got one | 21:39 |
| vavincavent | so i choose the one WITH blaster? | 21:39 |
| directhex | whatever happens, just make sure you get a blaster | 21:42 |
| vavincavent | ok thanks | 21:42 |
| vavincavent | i go to bed thanks and good night | 21:47 |
| directhex | superm1, you about? | 21:58 |
| Kargarian | does anyone know what the screen reoultion should be for displaying X on a 24 inch tv? | 23:09 |
| directhex | CRT or LCD? | 23:12 |
| rhpot1992 | depends on the tv | 23:13 |
| Kargarian | crt | 23:14 |
| Kargarian | it's an RCA 24" tv | 23:14 |
| directhex | for a CRT, 720*576 or 720*480 depending on whether you're in a PAL or NTSC country | 23:14 |
| Kargarian | NTsc | 23:15 |
| Kargarian | i am | 23:15 |
| directhex | note: this is a non-square-pixel resolution, make sure myth knows that the resolution is "wrong" in terms of aspect ratio | 23:15 |
| directhex | there's a place to override aspect ratio somewhere in the frontend settings | 23:15 |
| Kargarian | what should the aspect ratio be 4:3 | 23:15 |
| Kargarian | it's not a wide screen or anything just regulr tv | 23:18 |
| directhex | then yes, 4:3 | 23:18 |
| Kargarian | ok also, for some reason, I cannot get it to view on both the tv and monitor, it's either one or the other, any ideas? Would you mind having a look at my xorg.conf file? | 23:19 |
| Henrik_ | As were talking about aspect ratio, I have some questions. I have a dvb-t tuner, and when watching a movie or program the picture is somewhat automaticly changed. But it does not use the whole screen. My old dvb box did this, and (zoomed) without destroying the ratio, I have a 16:9 screen. | 23:20 |
| directhex | Kargarian, that ability depends on your graphics card and driver | 23:22 |
| Kargarian | well i am using the tv tuner card for and video card | 23:23 |
| directhex | Henrik_, what resolution are you sending to your tv? | 23:23 |
| directhex | answer the question as asked. did i mention your tv card? | 23:23 |
| Kargarian | Nvida 5900 xt | 23:23 |
| directhex | and the driver? | 23:24 |
| Henrik_ | directhex, only regular pal, no hd tv or nothing. | 23:24 |
| Kargarian | nvida driver for video card | 23:24 |
| directhex | Henrik_, so you're pushing 720x576? | 23:25 |
| directhex | Kargarian, which of the 5 possible drivers? | 23:25 |
| directhex | lord, why is it so hard to help people | 23:25 |
| Kargarian | good question. in the xorg.conf file it just says "nvidia". how do i find what the video card driver is | 23:25 |
| directhex | proprietary driver. good enough. | 23:26 |
| Kargarian | ok | 23:26 |
| directhex | right. use nvidia-settings to configure multi-screen output | 23:28 |
| Henrik_ | directhex, how do I know, I have never made any changes after install.. | 23:28 |
| Kargarian | ok | 23:28 |
| Kargarian | let me give that a shot | 23:28 |
| Kargarian | thanks | 23:28 |
| Henrik_ | directhex, where can I check that? | 23:34 |
| rogue780 | superm1, howdiddlydo | 23:37 |
| directhex | xrandr is a good bet. so is xorg.0.log | 23:46 |
| Henrik_ | directhex, dont even have xorg.0.log or any other xorg.log on my system | 23:51 |
| directhex | Henrik_, yes, you do. | 23:51 |
| Henrik_ | sorry | 23:52 |
| directhex | /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 23:52 |
| Henrik_ | found it, Xorg.0 | 23:52 |
| Henrik_ | yes | 23:52 |
| Henrik_ | (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1024 x 768 | 23:53 |
| Henrik_ | is that what I'm looking for? | 23:54 |
| directhex | yes | 23:54 |
| directhex | you're using a 4:3 resolution on a 16:9 display | 23:54 |
| directhex | you need to be 100% certain that myth is aware of your broken aspect ratio | 23:54 |
| directhex | otherwise it'll behave funny on files with odd aspect ratios | 23:54 |
| directhex | e.g. add black borders to widescreen shows | 23:55 |
| Henrik_ | okey do I correct this? | 23:55 |
| directhex | it's in the frontend settings somewhere. i forget where exactly | 23:55 |
| Henrik_ | In the frontend I have entered 16:9 | 23:55 |
| Henrik_ | and off on overide aspect and off on zome | 23:56 |
| directhex | bedtime | 23:56 |
| Henrik_ | okey thanks | 23:56 |
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