[00:01] <tgm4883_laptop> c3rb3rus5, please file a bugreport with hardware.conf, lircd.conf and .lircrc
[00:01] <c3rb3rus5> k
[00:01] <c3rb3rus5> where is hardware.conf?  /etc/?
[00:01] <tgm4883_laptop> err, /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[00:01] <tgm4883_laptop> that or
[00:01] <tgm4883_laptop> locate hardware.conf
[00:01] <c3rb3rus5> ok
[00:11] <Seeker`> someone said they had their remote set up to kill mythfrontend with pkill -9, can anyone remember who it was?
[00:37] <Kargarian> hey, anyone know the settings for displaying X on a 24" tv. or where I can find it?
[00:37] <famicom> yeah
[00:37] <famicom> i do
[00:37] <Kargarian> Where is that?
[00:37] <famicom> depends
[00:37] <Kargarian> xorg.conf
[00:37] <famicom> drivers, tv ty[e
[00:37] <famicom> max resolution
[00:37] <famicom> which connector
[00:37] <Kargarian> ivtv is the driver
[00:38] <famicom> yeah and what connection are you using at which resolution
[00:38] <Kargarian> pvr350 using comp
[00:39] <Kargarian> not sure the resoultion
[00:39] <famicom> oh
[00:39] <famicom> nice
[00:39] <famicom> Does that card work well?
[00:39] <Kargarian> yeah
[00:40] <Kargarian> works great, finally, just need to figure out how to resize x
[00:41] <Kargarian> i guess i would need to change the mode within xorg.conf for the 350
[00:41] <famicom> http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Main_Page
[00:42] <Kargarian> ok i will check that out
[01:32] <savageone> howdie folks
[01:32] <savageone> I'm trying to install a secondary backend
[01:32] <savageone> w/ frontend etc
[01:32] <savageone> I was originallyu going to just do a frontend to my main box in the living room in my bedroom but I've got a hard drive in here so I figured I'd do a secondary backend because I figured that takes some processing power off the front one?
[01:33] <savageone> either way, I'm at the poiint where it's asking for the master backends mysql info
[01:33] <savageone> and I got it from the mysql text time, but it's not taking it
[01:33] <savageone> and I know it's the right info because it's all in the damned file
[01:33] <savageone> any ideas why this would happen
[02:03] <savageone> if I want to mount an nfs share from another machine to this machines mythtv/videos directory what's the syntax for that?
[02:09] <tgm4883_laptop> savageone, look at ubuntuguide.org
[02:09] <savageone> thanks
[02:12] <c3rb3rus5> think that i might be taking the plunge and installing ubuntu on the main comp when 8.04 comes out
[02:12] <KillerKiwi2005> c3rb3rus5: what are you running now?
[02:13] <c3rb3rus5> xp x64
[02:13] <c3rb3rus5> hence... the plunge
[02:14] <c3rb3rus5> the only thing really keeping me are the games that i rarely play, and the very few win only devices that can most likely be used in a vm
[02:15] <KillerKiwi2005> only game I play these days is tremulous... but I will be buying sc2 ;)
[02:15] <KillerKiwi2005> I dont think I have any devices that dont work in ubuntu....
[02:15] <KillerKiwi2005> even the vodafone 3g card works
[02:15] <c3rb3rus5> harmony remote, as far as i know, does not work in linux
[02:17] <KillerKiwi2005> sweet remote.. yeah just run a vm for the odd ball thing like that
[02:20] <KillerKiwi2005> http://www.phildev.net/phil/blog/index.php?title=harmony_software_for_linux_is_here&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
[02:21] <KillerKiwi2005> http://sourceforge.net/projects/harmonycontrol/
[02:21] <KillerKiwi2005> lol
[02:21] <KillerKiwi2005> ask and you shall recive
[02:21] <c3rb3rus5> i see
[02:21] <c3rb3rus5> the sourceforge link is dead
[02:22] <c3rb3rus5> there are progs in linux to update / use ipods, right?
[02:22] <KillerKiwi2005> yes ipods
[02:24] <KillerKiwi2005> looking at link yes its dead...  try this one http://www.phildev.net/harmony/
[02:24] <KillerKiwi2005> looks like a nmae change
[02:26] <KillerKiwi2005> banshee can do ipods i think rythembox can too ipod in synaptic returns quire a few hits
[02:28] <KillerKiwi2005> Apple do have a tendency to mess with ipod firmware fairly often breaking everything except itunes
[02:30] <savageone> so when you're setting up a master backend I see it's pretty much required that you do the advanced option since it doesn't assume to setup mysql with the default install to facilitate the whole frontend deal here
[02:30] <savageone> can I pop the cd in and do a sort of overinstall where it keeps my settings but allows me to change that part of the setup?
[02:31] <tgm4883_laptop> a standard install should install the FE/BE and a mysql server and set that up
[02:31] <tgm4883_laptop> ie, on a single system setup, all you should have to do is install the standard install
[02:33] <KillerKiwi2005> On my older mythtv setups I had to allow mysql to be accessed from a remote machine.. it was locked down to local only by default....
[02:33] <KillerKiwi2005> maybe check that
[02:34] <savageone> I'm using the beta of the newest one
[02:34] <savageone> it's failing on connecting to the mythbackend with all the default stuff
[02:34] <savageone> I'm not too skilled with the mysql stuff I'm trying to figure out why it's not authenticating
[02:35] <KillerKiwi2005> try using mysql from the command line
[02:35] <ahave> i noticed the SAMBA configure already made the smb.conf file for me... could someone explain what the directory mask option is used for?
[02:35] <KillerKiwi2005> see if you can connect
[02:35] <savageone> let me ask you this
[02:35] <savageone> if I can connect to the box from windows with \\mythtv
[02:35] <savageone> chances are that's it'sm hostname correct
[02:36] <tgm4883_laptop> savageone, try using the ip
[02:36] <savageone> not to mention when I run the hostname command that comes up
[02:36] <savageone> k I'll try that now
[02:37] <savageone> looks like that might have worked
[02:39] <savageone> but that's messed up because it didn't work from the frontend cd or any of that
[02:39] <savageone> currently I'm doing testing with vmware because I got sick of grabbign stuff
[02:41] <tgm4883_laptop> savageone, did you enable the mysql service in MCC
[02:44] <savageone> yes
[02:44] <savageone> I believe so
[02:44] <savageone> I gotta check
[02:44] <savageone> I think I'm giving up for the night
[02:44] <savageone> I'm thinking one other factor is i didn't set up my tuner yet on the backend
[02:44] <savageone> it's there I just didn't configure it ebcause I don't really watch a lot of tv it's more for my media
[02:45] <KillerKiwi2005> savageone: setup the tuner you'll be suprised
[02:45] <savageone> I already had it set up
[02:45] <savageone> I test every new version I'm like a chronic guinea pig
[02:46] <savageone> I've used like 7 different mythtv diustros hhehe
[02:46] <savageone> I'm messing with setting up frontends now I never got the hang of it
[02:46] <savageone> funny thing is, setting it up with the ip seemed to work
[02:46] <savageone> amnd I opened my videos here and it's reading them from the master backend
[02:46] <savageone> I didn't think it would mount the data on it's own, I'm impressed
[02:46] <savageone> but, my permissions are messed
[02:47] <savageone> maybe it's just reading these titles from the mysql db and the files aren't really there that's why they won't play? either that or they don't have permission
[02:48] <KillerKiwi2005> check the /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[02:49] <KillerKiwi2005> on the backend machine
[02:50] <savageone> so like I should be able to go to /var/lib/mythtv/videos on the frontend and it should show my videos from the backend there right?
[02:50] <savageone> since it's supposed to be setup as a mount
[02:50] <savageone> or is that not how the video manager handles it
[02:51] <savageone> yeah it's definitely reading the database which is good
[02:51] <savageone> but it's not mounting the files so I gotta learn that and I've got it down
[02:51] <KillerKiwi2005> no it streams the video from the backend
[02:52] <tgm4883_laptop> mythvideo does not stream via the mythtv protocol, you must mount via cifs or nfs first
[02:52] <KillerKiwi2005> there is mythfuse... or you could just use the samba sharing
[02:52] <tgm4883_laptop> in .22 it should use the mythtv protocol
[02:53] <KillerKiwi2005> tgm4883_laptop: then how does toem read it?
[02:53] <KillerKiwi2005> totem
[02:53] <savageone> I'm doing samba ususally
[02:53] <savageone> but what is mythfuse?
[02:53] <tgm4883_laptop> KillerKiwi2005, explain what you mean?
[02:53] <KillerKiwi2005> savageone: its called mythtvfs now
[02:54] <KillerKiwi2005> tgm4883_laptop: totem can view mythtv without mounting anuything
[02:54] <savageone> yeah I'll just mount
[02:54] <savageone> I'm mainly using mythvideo
[02:55] <tgm4883_laptop> KillerKiwi2005, mythvideo != recordings
[02:55] <savageone> but you're saying the tv shows recorded with the tuner in pvr style are not needing that that's the mysql connection deal right?
[02:55] <KillerKiwi2005> ahh soryy yes :)
[02:55] <KillerKiwi2005> yeah i only use recordings
[02:55] <savageone> I hear ya
[02:55] <savageone> I'm a collector ;)
[02:55] <savageone> the new music player is way better
[02:56] <savageone> it'll get better don't get me wrong but compared to before?
[02:56] <KillerKiwi2005> yes.. but you cant change the volume when not on the music screen
[02:56] <savageone> true
[02:57] <savageone> my volume doesn't work on the music screen at all
[02:57] <savageone> you could I suppose if you had a receiver setup
[02:57] <KillerKiwi2005> very anoying...
[02:57] <savageone> hey man can you give me the syntax to mount a samba share that's at \\mythtv\videos to /var/lib/mythtv/videos
[02:57] <savageone> I can't remember
[02:58] <KillerKiwi2005> sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.2/Music /home/dbott/Music -o iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777
[02:58] <tgm4883_laptop> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288534
[02:59] <tgm4883_laptop> ^^ depending on what type of authentication you have it should be listed here
[03:00] <savageone> thanks
[03:00] <tgm4883_laptop> KillerKiwi2005, I haven't used totem to connect to my backend, how well does it work?
[03:00] <KillerKiwi2005> tgm4883_laptop: not very it hangs for like 5mins downloading the playlist and thumbnails.. also you cant fastforward or rewind... it does show promise though
[03:01] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[03:01] <tgm4883_laptop> how do you set it up?  or is it good to go by default?
[03:02] <KillerKiwi2005> you need to edit some gconf values there is no UI yet
[03:02] <tgm4883_laptop> ah ok
[03:02] <KillerKiwi2005> I think you'd call it in trial mode
[03:02] <tgm4883_laptop> i'll google around and see what I can get
[03:02] <KillerKiwi2005> ill get the keys if you want them
[03:03] <tgm4883_laptop> sounds good
[03:03] <tgm4883_laptop> i've added the extra plugins and activated the mythtv plugin
[03:03] <tgm4883_laptop> but it doesn't find anything.  Although I haven't setup where to look
[03:03] <tgm4883_laptop> are those the keys you are talking about?
[03:04] <KillerKiwi2005> look here http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/images/gconf_editor_totem.preview.png
[03:07] <KillerKiwi2005> elisa can also stream from a mythbackend
[03:07] <ahave> i noticed when browsing the program guide.. it takes a LONG time to scroll channels, how can i speed this up?
[03:08] <savageone> it's workin
[03:08] <savageone> I'm off to bed fellas
[03:08] <savageone> thanks for the help!
[03:09] <tgm4883_laptop> KillerKiwi2005, really?  I didn't think that was possible yet.  Is there an actual mythtv plugin for elisa?
[03:09] <KillerKiwi2005> no it uses uPnP
[03:09] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, this is kinda slow, and it doesn't appear to be any sort of order for the list of shows
[03:10] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[03:10] <tgm4883_laptop> someone needs to write a proper plugin for it, that would be awesome
[03:10] <KillerKiwi2005> it cant fast forward etheir though.... if the fixed that and added a schedular id use elisa as my front end
[03:11] <KillerKiwi2005> tgm4883_laptop: true but I guess it proof of concept that it works
[03:12] <tgm4883_laptop> well not really.  It is just the upnp portion that is working.  But that works for lots of things
[03:12] <tgm4883_laptop> The totem thing looks nice, but I get the same functionality from the asx stream and I think I prefer that as it's easier to sort or pick a show
[03:12] <KillerKiwi2005> yes... but elisa is very nice looking...
[03:13] <tgm4883_laptop> elisa is nice looking, and with gmyth it is possible to code a plugin for it.  Someone just needs to do it
[03:14] <KillerKiwi2005> they should just use the mythback end, i cant believe that they really want to write a new schedular multirec etc
[03:16] <tgm4883_laptop> me neither
[03:20] <superm1> elisa talks myth?
[03:20] <superm1> since when?
[03:20] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[03:20] <superm1> oh
[03:20] <tgm4883_laptop> elisa talks gstreamer,
[03:20] <superm1> oh and gstreamer talks myth
[03:21] <tgm4883_laptop> gmyth libraries for mythtv
[03:21] <tgm4883_laptop> although elisa is a upnp client
[03:21] <superm1> so it can play myth stuff
[03:21] <superm1> does it work well?
[03:21]  * tgm4883_laptop shrugs
[03:21] <tgm4883_laptop> apparently it only does recordings and music
 hmm, this is kinda slow, and it doesn't appear to be any sort of order for the list of shows
[03:21] <superm1> :)
[03:22] <superm1> so is it worth playing with?
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> oh, heh
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> that was directed towards totem
[03:22] <superm1> oh
[03:22] <superm1> yeah that too
[03:22] <superm1> it's kinda silly
[03:22] <tgm4883_laptop> I don't think the totem plugin is worth it ATM
[03:22] <superm1> well if gmyth-upnp was in
[03:22] <superm1> it would have been
[03:23] <superm1> woah wtf?
[03:23] <superm1> elisa is in main???
[03:23] <KillerKiwi2005> elisa is in luanchpad now as well
[03:23] <tgm4883_laptop> being that i get the same functionality grabbing the asx stream from mythweb
[03:23] <tgm4883_laptop> it is?
[03:23] <superm1> yeah it is
[03:23] <superm1> someone must be planning a product around this
[03:23] <superm1> or something
[03:23] <tgm4883_laptop> wouldn't doubt it, it's in UMC isnt' it?
[03:24] <superm1> oh i bet this is targetted at ubuntu-mobile
[03:24] <superm1> that's probably why
[03:24] <superm1> damn slick products
[03:24] <KillerKiwi2005> that would be slick elisa on a mobile
[03:25] <superm1> honestly it is a lot more slick than myth
[03:25] <superm1> interface wise
[03:25] <KillerKiwi2005> yes.. yes it is
[03:25] <superm1> wow playing videos and navigating menus at the same time?
[03:25] <KillerKiwi2005> and it uses all the gnome goodness stack... gstreamer etc
[03:25] <superm1> crazyness.
[03:26] <KillerKiwi2005> needs a "good" myth plugin for scheduling etc
[03:26] <superm1> honestly, if someone came up with some myth stuff for the frontend in this
[03:27] <superm1> it would make a compelling argument as a frontend
[03:28]  * tgm4883_laptop doesn't know python
[03:28] <superm1> ha neat. even a slick youtube plugin
[03:28] <superm1> i've already crashed it 4 times though just using it
[03:29] <superm1> so it's not stable yet, but yeah tgm4883, go learn yourself some python
[03:29]  * tgm4883_laptop is installing it
[03:29] <superm1> and write a myth plugin for it
[03:29] <KillerKiwi2005> im sure i've seen a python-mythtv module
[03:29] <superm1> yeah there are python bindings for libmyth
[03:29] <superm1> so actually might be more feasible than anticipated
[03:30] <superm1> man i crashed it hard enough that it won't die from kill -9 though
[03:31] <KillerKiwi2005> is there a mythlib site?
[03:31] <superm1> website?
[03:31] <superm1> what do you mean?
[03:31] <KillerKiwi2005> http://gmyth.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[03:31] <superm1> oh that's gmyth yeah
[03:32] <superm1> gmyth is a third party layer - that's how totem learned to speak myth
[03:32] <KillerKiwi2005> libmyth is part of mythtv proper?
[03:33] <superm1> yes
[03:33] <superm1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReports/Elisa
[03:34] <superm1> interesting they have pylirc
[03:34] <superm1> which is a python binding to lirc
[03:35] <KillerKiwi2005> its what gnome-lirc-properties uses...
[03:35] <KillerKiwi2005> all the parts are there... wierd
[03:36] <superm1>  well it's not a dependency to gnome-lirc-properties
[03:37] <KillerKiwi2005> libmyth is all sql statmenets.....
[03:37] <superm1> but it's meare existance means that we can probably expand mcc to use a remote at some point
[03:37] <superm1> well libmythtv and libmyth
[03:37] <superm1> or do you mean gmyth?
[03:38] <KillerKiwi2005> libmyth python
[03:38] <superm1> ah
[03:38] <KillerKiwi2005> no method for scheduling a recording...
[03:39] <KillerKiwi2005> onyl getting current recordings...
[03:39] <superm1> well that can be expanded upon
[03:39] <KillerKiwi2005> yes.. it would have to be
[03:40] <superm1> well and there is always the fact that we have gloss coming
[03:40] <superm1> and a mythtv FE in QT4 later this next release
[03:41] <KillerKiwi2005> is it just my perception or is development speeding up across the board...
[03:41] <superm1> i think it's just because these were all brought up in the same conversation :)
[03:41] <superm1> I really think though that someone will need to expand on the myth bindings, or myth is going to fall behind these other projects at some point
[03:42] <KillerKiwi2005> seems like a lot of new stuff happening
[03:43] <KillerKiwi2005> ... myth needs a new ui... its starting to look very 90's
[03:43] <superm1> that's what QT4 is gonna be
[03:43] <superm1> it really won't compare to clutter i expect though
[03:44] <KillerKiwi2005> no...
[03:47] <superm1> ah and gloss can finally do tv too
[03:48] <superm1> i'll stand by my belief that these separate efforts are bad in general
[03:48] <superm1> yeah these projects have different goals
[03:48] <superm1> but this style of development, no one will succeed
[03:50] <KillerKiwi2005> does gloss use myth?
[03:50] <superm1> the goal for it is a drop in replacement for myth-frontend
[03:51] <KillerKiwi2005> thats a big goal
[03:51] <tgm4883_laptop> on the other hand, if they used the same underlying elements (the backend) they could be very good together
[03:51] <KillerKiwi2005> what does it use gstreamer?
[03:51] <superm1> well the problem is that myth's architecture for the backend doesn't bode well with all these projects
[03:51] <superm1> it doesnt use hal/dbus at all
[03:51] <superm1> and it doesn't use gstreamer at all
[03:52] <superm1> just its own integrated ffmpeg
[03:52] <superm1> and raw access to devices
[03:52] <superm1> so its not a good community player in that sense
[03:52] <KillerKiwi2005> its in python as well
[03:52] <superm1> mythbackend?
[03:52] <superm1> no it's in C++
[03:52] <KillerKiwi2005> gloss
[03:52] <superm1> oh yeah
[03:53] <KillerKiwi2005> dosnt look like they have done any work on the schedular...
[03:54] <KillerKiwi2005> gloss should fold into elisa as a plugin
[03:55] <superm1> yeah
[03:55] <superm1> that would be the perfect solution
[03:55] <KillerKiwi2005> dont really need another music player or slideshow... just do the scheduling and playback from mythbackend
[03:56] <superm1> and in the playback, comm skipping :)
[03:56] <KillerKiwi2005> guess which bits the easiest ;)
[03:57] <superm1> well do you see this gloss guy soaking up his pride and doing that though?
[03:57] <KillerKiwi2005> nope
[03:59] <superm1> ideal world
[03:59] <superm1> man
[03:59] <KillerKiwi2005> ohh... hes got the tv guide http://code.google.com/p/gloss-mc/source/browse/trunk/modules/myth_tv_player/tv_db_controller.py
[04:00] <tgm4883_laptop> poor guy
[04:00] <tgm4883_laptop> he's the only one in #gloss
[04:00] <KillerKiwi2005> lol
[04:02] <superm1> well the problem with gstreamer as a backend
[04:03] <superm1> it can only handle v4l2
[04:03] <superm1> whereas myth can talk firewire, IP tv, network, and directly to some usb devicii
[04:03] <superm1> in "addition" to v4l2
[04:03] <KillerKiwi2005> only use gstreamer for mythfrontend
[04:04] <KillerKiwi2005> leave mythbackend alone
[04:05] <superm1> well i wonder if that would be enough to rip out all this nasty ffmpeg code that is hardcoded into myth
[04:05] <KillerKiwi2005> the backend would still need an encoder....
[04:05] <superm1> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/GMyth
[04:05] <KillerKiwi2005> but playback would be fixed
[04:06] <superm1> interesting, so gmyth's goals are a little larger
[04:07] <KillerKiwi2005> that actaully does what is needed
[04:07] <superm1> yeah
[04:08] <superm1> i still don't think it's a proper solution though
[04:08] <superm1> the way it's implemented at least
[04:09] <superm1> well if i had a combination of additional time and/or intelligence with gstreamer and/or ffmpeg code, i think that this would be a neat project to uptake: porting gstreamer into myth
[04:09] <superm1> to rip out as much ffmpeg as possible
[04:09] <superm1> or at least make it less dependent upon it slowly
[04:12] <superm1> last time there was a big gaping void missing to me though, a distro resulted out of it
[04:12] <superm1> i better stop speculating
[04:12] <tgm4883_laptop> lol
[04:13] <tgm4883_laptop> no mythgbuntu?
[04:13] <superm1> well myth already has its gaping holes of the big SQL dependency
[04:13] <superm1> which is probably more critical
[04:14] <superm1> and it's tight reliance on things internally to QT, where it shouldnt be
[04:14] <superm1> making it a behemoth memory wise
[04:14] <tgm4883_laptop> but no real alternatives
[04:15] <superm1> that's not the right answer
[04:15] <superm1> no one has stepped up to clean it up is
[04:15] <tgm4883_laptop> exactly
[04:15] <tgm4883_laptop> hopefully that will happen though
[04:15] <superm1> Scott D. brought  this up on -users actually
[04:15] <superm1> he's the one who got linux to natively boot and run mythbuntu on his apple tv
[04:16] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[04:16] <tgm4883_laptop> not sure I could live without my mythbox
[04:16] <superm1> after the ugly4 dust settles he said he would look through the code and start submitting patches where it needs cleaning
[04:17] <superm1> what we need to do is find a CS student that needs a senior project
[04:17] <tgm4883_laptop> heh
[04:17] <tgm4883_laptop> <--- IS Student
[04:17] <superm1> and mak... er i mean ask him to get gstreamer used inside myth
[04:17] <superm1> what's IS mean?
[04:17] <KillerKiwi2005> yeah... i want to mess with dvb-t on the card but when can I take it down .....
[04:17] <tgm4883_laptop> Information Systems
[04:18] <superm1> so that means you need a senior project right?
[04:18] <tgm4883_laptop> plus all we learn at this school is java
[04:18] <tgm4883_laptop> already had my senior project
[04:18] <tgm4883_laptop> basically, IS people are project managers/consultants
[04:18] <superm1> eh close enough.  most of gstreamer code looks like another language anyway
[04:19] <superm1> the best example of how to port it over would probably look at totem code for how it can use either xine or gstreamer as a backend
[04:19] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, here you go http://ooboontoo.blogspot.com/2008/03/gstreamer-with-python-in-qt-learning-by.html
[04:19] <KillerKiwi2005> kde ppl would probably make noise about (is it phonon?)
[04:20] <superm1> oh wtf is phnon?
[04:20] <superm1> is that a gstreamer like thing for KDE?
[04:21] <KillerKiwi2005> they have an abstration layer over gstreamer....
[04:21] <KillerKiwi2005> why... i dont know
[04:25] <superm1> well it blends well with QT stuff it looks like
[04:25] <superm1> so perhaps that is what it boils down to?
[04:26] <KillerKiwi2005> i guess so... im not sold on all kde4 stuff yet....
[04:26] <tgm4883_laptop> BAH!!
[04:26] <tgm4883_laptop> Head on apply directly to forehead
[09:28] <janne> I have problen with latest mythtv version.
[09:30] <janne> Sory my english, The mythbackend is on all the time and th hd light is blinking.
[09:43] <janne>  and when I start backend I get a errormessage No UPnP backend found.
[09:44] <janne> and when i install it: Failed to create database (incorrect admin username/password?)
[12:00] <sebrock> MythVideo doesnt rely on the mythbackend for playing videos right? Its done entierly from the frontend via NFS mount or equal?
[12:02] <sebrock> because I have wierd MythWeb behavior right now as it tries to access videos trough a frontend NFS mount and not locally...
[16:37] <Pasteurized> hi all
[16:39] <Pasteurized> I've found many forum posts about errors while setting up database after mythbuntu install, but no complete answer
[16:39] <Pasteurized> do you know where this common question is answered ?
[16:43] <tgm4883_laptop> Pasteurized, did you have a root password setup for mysql?
[16:50] <Pasteurized> finaly I found this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Troubleshooting
[16:51] <Pasteurized> but i dont really know if a should use mythtv or root user
[16:51] <Pasteurized> what is the most common tgm4883_laptop ?
[16:52] <directhex> never use root unless you have a damn good reason
[16:52] <Pasteurized> yep, not a bad idea :)
[17:11] <Pasteurized> it still doesnt want to connect to the DB ... :/
[17:11] <Pasteurized> annoying
[20:15] <sluggervillan> Hello!
[20:15] <sluggervillan> Wow, I just discovered this version, will it fix my problems with Hapenauge PVR-150
[20:17] <sluggervillan> I'm stoked, Is there a list of supportted tuners for MythBuntu?
[20:18] <rhpot1991_laptop> pvr-xxx's should work out of the box
[20:25] <sluggervillan> rhpot1991_laptop: Thank you!  I was doing some reading it does look so.
[20:26] <sluggervillan> #, I do have the PVR-1250 too, has anyone had luck with that card?  Discussions on it are conflicted!
[20:26] <rhpot1991_laptop> my 150 and 350 work painlessly
[20:26] <sluggervillan> Thats great!
[20:27] <sluggervillan> Well worse case, I'll remove my 1250 and put the 150 back!    (1250 is PCIe)
[20:27] <sluggervillan> or just leave them both in the box!
[20:28] <rhpot1991_laptop> sluggervillan: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_HVR-1250
[20:28] <sluggervillan> ahhhh, nice, lemme check it!
[20:29] <rhpot1991_laptop> seems to indicate the digital portion of it is working
[20:32] <sluggervillan> I use it in windows now, seems to pull in digitals (QAM) right off the line!
[20:32] <sluggervillan> So I guess that will be good, I'll set the 150 for analog and teh 1250 to snag what it can in digital!  Hummm!
[20:53] <vavincavent> hi all
[20:53] <tgm4883_laptop> hi
[20:53] <vavincavent> i've installed mythbuntu
[20:54] <vavincavent> but without input card
[20:54] <vavincavent> just with radeon ve700 graphic card, with tv out
[20:55] <vavincavent> i have a satellite demodulator
[20:55] <vavincavent> and i want to put it in my mythvavincaventbox
[20:56] <vavincavent> witch card can i have for input?
[20:57] <directhex> you have digital satelite?
[20:58] <vavincavent> yes
[20:58] <directhex> and you want to tune into it directly with your pc, or use a set-top box?
[20:58] <vavincavent> http://worldsat.rtfm.be/contenus.php?id=235
[20:59] <vavincavent> sorry for my english, i'm french, so ..tune? set-top?
[20:59] <directhex> that's a set-top box
[21:00] <directhex> in which case you need 1) to use the analog video output of the set-top box, 2) to get a tv card which can capture that analog output (e.g. a hauppauge pvr150), 3) to use an 'ir blaster' which emulates a tv remote and sends 'change channel' signals to the set-top box when myth needs to change channel
[21:02] <vavincavent> "ir blaster"??
[21:02] <directhex> i gave a description already. i don't see why i should repeat myself, nor why you can't google it yourself
[21:02] <vavincavent> ok sorry
[21:03] <vavincavent> actually, i put signal tv out by s-video to my set-top box, can i let it like this?
[21:04] <directhex> i don't understand.
[21:05] <vavincavent> mythbuntu is connected to my set-up box through peritel convertor/s-video
[21:06] <vavincavent> set-top box
[21:06] <directhex> SCART.
[21:07] <directhex> okay, i'm utterly lost now. what is it exactly you want to do?
[21:08] <vavincavent> i want to put signal from my set-top box to mythbuntu
[21:08] <vavincavent> ...
 in which case you need 1) to use the analog video output of the set-top box, 2) to get a tv card which can capture that analog output (e.g. a hauppauge pvr150), 3) to use an 'ir blaster' which emulates a tv remote and sends 'change channel' signals to the set-top box when myth needs to change channel
[21:09] <vavincavent> ok, when i see what i have to explain, i know how funny is my question!!
[21:09] <tgm4883_laptop> vavincavent, buy a pvr150, use ir blasting to change the channel
[21:09] <directhex> but i would personally tune directly into the satellite & skip the set-top box, assuming your contract with your satellite provider allows you to do this
[21:09] <tgm4883_laptop> ^^ +1
[21:10] <vavincavent> ok, thanks to all, it's difficult for me to explain and i know difficult to you to understand!!!
[21:10] <vavincavent> i think i've understood
[21:10] <directhex> vavincavent, mythtv *is* a set-top box. what you want to do is possible, and many people do it, but mythtv is there to *replace* your set-top box - you would no longer be able to use the functionality of the box without causing problems
[21:10] <directhex> also, use french if need be. my spelling sucks though
[21:11] <vavincavent> ahhh
[21:11] <vavincavent> tu parles français!!
[21:11] <directhex> je parle francais. je ne l'ecrit pas.
[21:12] <vavincavent> actuellement mon démodulateur satellite décode les chaines criptées, je ne pense pas pouvoir le faire via la mythbuntubox
[21:13] <vavincavent> donc je souhaite envoyer le signal du démodulateur vers la mythbuntubox
[21:13] <directhex> avez-vous une carte pour access aux chaines cyiptees, ou c'est fait illegalement?
[21:14] <vavincavent> euh, je n'ai pas de carte, ça suffit comme réponse?
[21:16] <directhex> dans ce cas, c'est la solution deja donne. carte come la hauppauge pvr150, connection svideo, et ir-blaster pour que la boite myth peut changer la chaine.
[21:16] <vavincavent> ok, merci directhex de tes efforts
[21:21] <vavincavent> thanks directhex for your explain
[21:24] <vavincavent> wich differencies betwen pvr150 and pvr150mce
[21:24] <vavincavent> ?
[21:26] <directhex> connectors & bundle
[21:28] <vavincavent> wich one is the best for me?
[21:36] <directhex> the mce.
[21:36] <directhex> it comes with an ir blaster
[21:36] <directhex> (and remote)
[21:36] <directhex> hm, wait
[21:37] <directhex> the "150 mce" has no remote at all, the "150 mce kit" has remote with blaster
[21:37] <directhex> the 150 has remote without blaster
[21:37] <directhex> confused yet?
[21:39] <rhpot1991_laptop> the retail 150 box comes with a blaster and hauppauge remote last I got one
[21:39] <vavincavent> so i choose the one WITH blaster?
[21:42] <directhex> whatever happens, just make sure you get a blaster
[21:42] <vavincavent> ok thanks
[21:47] <vavincavent> i go to bed thanks and good night
[21:58] <directhex> superm1, you about?
[23:09] <Kargarian> does anyone know what the screen reoultion should be for displaying X on a 24 inch tv?
[23:12] <directhex> CRT or LCD?
[23:13] <rhpot1992> depends on the tv
[23:14] <Kargarian> crt
[23:14] <Kargarian> it's an RCA 24" tv
[23:14] <directhex> for a CRT, 720*576 or 720*480 depending on whether you're in a PAL or NTSC country
[23:15] <Kargarian> NTsc
[23:15] <Kargarian> i am
[23:15] <directhex> note: this is a non-square-pixel resolution, make sure myth knows that the resolution is "wrong" in terms of aspect ratio
[23:15] <directhex> there's a place to override aspect ratio somewhere in the frontend settings
[23:15] <Kargarian> what should the aspect ratio be 4:3
[23:18] <Kargarian> it's not a wide screen or anything just regulr tv
[23:18] <directhex> then yes, 4:3
[23:19] <Kargarian> ok also, for some reason, I cannot get it to view on both the tv and monitor, it's either one or the other, any ideas?  Would you mind having a look at my xorg.conf file?
[23:20] <Henrik_> As were talking about aspect ratio, I have some questions. I have a dvb-t tuner, and when watching a movie or program the picture is somewhat automaticly changed. But it does not use the whole screen. My old dvb box did this, and (zoomed) without destroying the ratio, I have a 16:9 screen.
[23:22] <directhex> Kargarian, that ability depends on your graphics card and driver
[23:23] <Kargarian> well i am using the tv tuner card for and video card
[23:23] <directhex> Henrik_, what resolution are you sending to your tv?
[23:23] <directhex> answer the question as asked. did i mention your tv card?
[23:23] <Kargarian> Nvida 5900 xt
[23:24] <directhex> and the driver?
[23:24] <Henrik_> directhex, only regular pal, no hd tv or nothing.
[23:24] <Kargarian> nvida driver for video card
[23:25] <directhex> Henrik_, so you're pushing 720x576?
[23:25] <directhex> Kargarian, which of the 5 possible drivers?
[23:25] <directhex> lord, why is it so hard to help people
[23:25] <Kargarian> good question.  in the xorg.conf file it just says "nvidia".  how do i find what the video card driver is
[23:26] <directhex> proprietary driver. good enough.
[23:26] <Kargarian> ok
[23:28] <directhex> right. use nvidia-settings to configure multi-screen output
[23:28] <Henrik_> directhex, how do I know, I have never made any changes after install..
[23:28] <Kargarian> ok
[23:28] <Kargarian> let me give that a shot
[23:28] <Kargarian> thanks
[23:34] <Henrik_> directhex, where can I check that?
[23:37] <rogue780> superm1, howdiddlydo
[23:46] <directhex> xrandr is a good bet. so is xorg.0.log
[23:51] <Henrik_> directhex, dont even have xorg.0.log or any other xorg.log on my system
[23:51] <directhex> Henrik_, yes, you do.
[23:52] <Henrik_> sorry
[23:52] <directhex> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:52] <Henrik_> found it, Xorg.0
[23:52] <Henrik_> yes
[23:53] <Henrik_> (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1024 x 768
[23:54] <Henrik_> is that what I'm looking for?
[23:54] <directhex> yes
[23:54] <directhex> you're using a 4:3 resolution on a 16:9 display
[23:54] <directhex> you need to be 100% certain that myth is aware of your broken aspect ratio
[23:54] <directhex> otherwise it'll behave funny on files with odd aspect ratios
[23:55] <directhex> e.g. add black borders to widescreen shows
[23:55] <Henrik_> okey do I correct this?
[23:55] <directhex> it's in the frontend settings somewhere. i forget where exactly
[23:55] <Henrik_> In the frontend I have entered 16:9
[23:56] <Henrik_> and off on overide aspect and off on zome
[23:56] <directhex> bedtime
[23:56] <Henrik_> okey thanks