[00:01] c3rb3rus5, please file a bugreport with hardware.conf, lircd.conf and .lircrc [00:01] k [00:01] where is hardware.conf? /etc/? [00:01] err, /etc/lirc/hardware.conf [00:01] that or [00:01] locate hardware.conf [00:01] ok [00:11] someone said they had their remote set up to kill mythfrontend with pkill -9, can anyone remember who it was? [00:37] hey, anyone know the settings for displaying X on a 24" tv. or where I can find it? [00:37] yeah [00:37] i do [00:37] Where is that? [00:37] depends [00:37] xorg.conf [00:37] drivers, tv ty[e [00:37] max resolution [00:37] which connector [00:37] ivtv is the driver [00:38] yeah and what connection are you using at which resolution [00:38] pvr350 using comp [00:39] not sure the resoultion [00:39] oh [00:39] nice [00:39] Does that card work well? [00:39] yeah [00:40] works great, finally, just need to figure out how to resize x [00:41] i guess i would need to change the mode within xorg.conf for the 350 [00:41] http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Main_Page [00:42] ok i will check that out [01:32] howdie folks [01:32] I'm trying to install a secondary backend [01:32] w/ frontend etc [01:32] I was originallyu going to just do a frontend to my main box in the living room in my bedroom but I've got a hard drive in here so I figured I'd do a secondary backend because I figured that takes some processing power off the front one? [01:33] either way, I'm at the poiint where it's asking for the master backends mysql info [01:33] and I got it from the mysql text time, but it's not taking it [01:33] and I know it's the right info because it's all in the damned file [01:33] any ideas why this would happen [02:03] if I want to mount an nfs share from another machine to this machines mythtv/videos directory what's the syntax for that? [02:09] savageone, look at ubuntuguide.org [02:09] thanks [02:12] think that i might be taking the plunge and installing ubuntu on the main comp when 8.04 comes out [02:12] c3rb3rus5: what are you running now? [02:13] xp x64 [02:13] hence... the plunge [02:14] the only thing really keeping me are the games that i rarely play, and the very few win only devices that can most likely be used in a vm [02:15] only game I play these days is tremulous... but I will be buying sc2 ;) [02:15] I dont think I have any devices that dont work in ubuntu.... [02:15] even the vodafone 3g card works [02:15] harmony remote, as far as i know, does not work in linux [02:17] sweet remote.. yeah just run a vm for the odd ball thing like that [02:20] http://www.phildev.net/phil/blog/index.php?title=harmony_software_for_linux_is_here&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 [02:21] http://sourceforge.net/projects/harmonycontrol/ [02:21] lol [02:21] ask and you shall recive [02:21] i see [02:21] the sourceforge link is dead [02:22] there are progs in linux to update / use ipods, right? [02:22] yes ipods [02:24] looking at link yes its dead... try this one http://www.phildev.net/harmony/ [02:24] looks like a nmae change [02:26] banshee can do ipods i think rythembox can too ipod in synaptic returns quire a few hits [02:28] Apple do have a tendency to mess with ipod firmware fairly often breaking everything except itunes [02:30] so when you're setting up a master backend I see it's pretty much required that you do the advanced option since it doesn't assume to setup mysql with the default install to facilitate the whole frontend deal here [02:30] can I pop the cd in and do a sort of overinstall where it keeps my settings but allows me to change that part of the setup? [02:31] a standard install should install the FE/BE and a mysql server and set that up [02:31] ie, on a single system setup, all you should have to do is install the standard install [02:33] On my older mythtv setups I had to allow mysql to be accessed from a remote machine.. it was locked down to local only by default.... [02:33] maybe check that [02:34] I'm using the beta of the newest one [02:34] it's failing on connecting to the mythbackend with all the default stuff [02:34] I'm not too skilled with the mysql stuff I'm trying to figure out why it's not authenticating [02:35] try using mysql from the command line [02:35] i noticed the SAMBA configure already made the smb.conf file for me... could someone explain what the directory mask option is used for? [02:35] see if you can connect [02:35] let me ask you this [02:35] if I can connect to the box from windows with \\mythtv [02:35] chances are that's it'sm hostname correct [02:36] savageone, try using the ip [02:36] not to mention when I run the hostname command that comes up [02:36] k I'll try that now [02:37] looks like that might have worked [02:39] but that's messed up because it didn't work from the frontend cd or any of that [02:39] currently I'm doing testing with vmware because I got sick of grabbign stuff [02:41] savageone, did you enable the mysql service in MCC [02:44] yes [02:44] I believe so [02:44] I gotta check [02:44] I think I'm giving up for the night [02:44] I'm thinking one other factor is i didn't set up my tuner yet on the backend [02:44] it's there I just didn't configure it ebcause I don't really watch a lot of tv it's more for my media [02:45] savageone: setup the tuner you'll be suprised [02:45] I already had it set up [02:45] I test every new version I'm like a chronic guinea pig [02:46] I've used like 7 different mythtv diustros hhehe [02:46] I'm messing with setting up frontends now I never got the hang of it [02:46] funny thing is, setting it up with the ip seemed to work [02:46] amnd I opened my videos here and it's reading them from the master backend [02:46] I didn't think it would mount the data on it's own, I'm impressed [02:46] but, my permissions are messed [02:47] maybe it's just reading these titles from the mysql db and the files aren't really there that's why they won't play? either that or they don't have permission [02:48] check the /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log [02:49] on the backend machine [02:50] so like I should be able to go to /var/lib/mythtv/videos on the frontend and it should show my videos from the backend there right? [02:50] since it's supposed to be setup as a mount [02:50] or is that not how the video manager handles it [02:51] yeah it's definitely reading the database which is good [02:51] but it's not mounting the files so I gotta learn that and I've got it down [02:51] no it streams the video from the backend [02:52] mythvideo does not stream via the mythtv protocol, you must mount via cifs or nfs first [02:52] there is mythfuse... or you could just use the samba sharing [02:52] in .22 it should use the mythtv protocol [02:53] tgm4883_laptop: then how does toem read it? [02:53] totem [02:53] I'm doing samba ususally [02:53] but what is mythfuse? [02:53] KillerKiwi2005, explain what you mean? [02:53] savageone: its called mythtvfs now [02:54] tgm4883_laptop: totem can view mythtv without mounting anuything [02:54] yeah I'll just mount [02:54] I'm mainly using mythvideo [02:55] KillerKiwi2005, mythvideo != recordings [02:55] but you're saying the tv shows recorded with the tuner in pvr style are not needing that that's the mysql connection deal right? [02:55] ahh soryy yes :) [02:55] yeah i only use recordings [02:55] I hear ya [02:55] I'm a collector ;) [02:55] the new music player is way better [02:56] it'll get better don't get me wrong but compared to before? [02:56] yes.. but you cant change the volume when not on the music screen [02:56] true [02:57] my volume doesn't work on the music screen at all [02:57] you could I suppose if you had a receiver setup [02:57] very anoying... [02:57] hey man can you give me the syntax to mount a samba share that's at \\mythtv\videos to /var/lib/mythtv/videos [02:57] I can't remember [02:58] sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.2/Music /home/dbott/Music -o iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 [02:58] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288534 [02:59] ^^ depending on what type of authentication you have it should be listed here [03:00] thanks [03:00] KillerKiwi2005, I haven't used totem to connect to my backend, how well does it work? [03:00] tgm4883_laptop: not very it hangs for like 5mins downloading the playlist and thumbnails.. also you cant fastforward or rewind... it does show promise though [03:01] ah [03:01] how do you set it up? or is it good to go by default? [03:02] you need to edit some gconf values there is no UI yet [03:02] ah ok [03:02] I think you'd call it in trial mode [03:02] i'll google around and see what I can get [03:02] ill get the keys if you want them [03:03] sounds good [03:03] i've added the extra plugins and activated the mythtv plugin [03:03] but it doesn't find anything. Although I haven't setup where to look [03:03] are those the keys you are talking about? [03:04] look here http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/images/gconf_editor_totem.preview.png [03:07] elisa can also stream from a mythbackend [03:07] i noticed when browsing the program guide.. it takes a LONG time to scroll channels, how can i speed this up? [03:08] it's workin [03:08] I'm off to bed fellas [03:08] thanks for the help! [03:09] KillerKiwi2005, really? I didn't think that was possible yet. Is there an actual mythtv plugin for elisa? [03:09] no it uses uPnP [03:09] hmm, this is kinda slow, and it doesn't appear to be any sort of order for the list of shows [03:10] ah [03:10] someone needs to write a proper plugin for it, that would be awesome [03:10] it cant fast forward etheir though.... if the fixed that and added a schedular id use elisa as my front end [03:11] tgm4883_laptop: true but I guess it proof of concept that it works [03:12] well not really. It is just the upnp portion that is working. But that works for lots of things [03:12] The totem thing looks nice, but I get the same functionality from the asx stream and I think I prefer that as it's easier to sort or pick a show [03:12] yes... but elisa is very nice looking... [03:13] elisa is nice looking, and with gmyth it is possible to code a plugin for it. Someone just needs to do it [03:14] they should just use the mythback end, i cant believe that they really want to write a new schedular multirec etc [03:16] me neither [03:20] elisa talks myth? [03:20] since when? [03:20] no [03:20] oh [03:20] elisa talks gstreamer, [03:20] oh and gstreamer talks myth [03:21] gmyth libraries for mythtv [03:21] although elisa is a upnp client [03:21] so it can play myth stuff [03:21] does it work well? [03:21] * tgm4883_laptop shrugs [03:21] apparently it only does recordings and music [03:21] hmm, this is kinda slow, and it doesn't appear to be any sort of order for the list of shows [03:21] :) [03:22] so is it worth playing with? [03:22] oh, heh [03:22] that was directed towards totem [03:22] oh [03:22] yeah that too [03:22] it's kinda silly [03:22] I don't think the totem plugin is worth it ATM [03:22] well if gmyth-upnp was in [03:22] it would have been [03:23] woah wtf? [03:23] elisa is in main??? [03:23] elisa is in luanchpad now as well [03:23] being that i get the same functionality grabbing the asx stream from mythweb [03:23] it is? [03:23] yeah it is [03:23] someone must be planning a product around this [03:23] or something [03:23] wouldn't doubt it, it's in UMC isnt' it? [03:24] oh i bet this is targetted at ubuntu-mobile [03:24] that's probably why [03:24] damn slick products [03:24] that would be slick elisa on a mobile [03:25] honestly it is a lot more slick than myth [03:25] interface wise [03:25] yes.. yes it is [03:25] wow playing videos and navigating menus at the same time? [03:25] and it uses all the gnome goodness stack... gstreamer etc [03:25] crazyness. [03:26] needs a "good" myth plugin for scheduling etc [03:26] honestly, if someone came up with some myth stuff for the frontend in this [03:27] it would make a compelling argument as a frontend [03:28] * tgm4883_laptop doesn't know python [03:28] ha neat. even a slick youtube plugin [03:28] i've already crashed it 4 times though just using it [03:29] so it's not stable yet, but yeah tgm4883, go learn yourself some python [03:29] * tgm4883_laptop is installing it [03:29] and write a myth plugin for it [03:29] im sure i've seen a python-mythtv module [03:29] yeah there are python bindings for libmyth [03:29] so actually might be more feasible than anticipated [03:30] man i crashed it hard enough that it won't die from kill -9 though [03:31] is there a mythlib site? [03:31] website? [03:31] what do you mean? [03:31] http://gmyth.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page [03:31] oh that's gmyth yeah [03:32] gmyth is a third party layer - that's how totem learned to speak myth [03:32] libmyth is part of mythtv proper? [03:33] yes [03:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReports/Elisa [03:34] interesting they have pylirc [03:34] which is a python binding to lirc [03:35] its what gnome-lirc-properties uses... [03:35] all the parts are there... wierd [03:36] well it's not a dependency to gnome-lirc-properties [03:37] libmyth is all sql statmenets..... [03:37] but it's meare existance means that we can probably expand mcc to use a remote at some point [03:37] well libmythtv and libmyth [03:37] or do you mean gmyth? [03:38] libmyth python [03:38] ah [03:38] no method for scheduling a recording... [03:39] onyl getting current recordings... [03:39] well that can be expanded upon [03:39] yes.. it would have to be [03:40] well and there is always the fact that we have gloss coming [03:40] and a mythtv FE in QT4 later this next release [03:41] is it just my perception or is development speeding up across the board... [03:41] i think it's just because these were all brought up in the same conversation :) [03:41] I really think though that someone will need to expand on the myth bindings, or myth is going to fall behind these other projects at some point [03:42] seems like a lot of new stuff happening [03:43] ... myth needs a new ui... its starting to look very 90's [03:43] that's what QT4 is gonna be [03:43] it really won't compare to clutter i expect though [03:44] no... [03:47] ah and gloss can finally do tv too [03:48] i'll stand by my belief that these separate efforts are bad in general [03:48] yeah these projects have different goals [03:48] but this style of development, no one will succeed [03:50] does gloss use myth? [03:50] the goal for it is a drop in replacement for myth-frontend [03:51] thats a big goal [03:51] on the other hand, if they used the same underlying elements (the backend) they could be very good together [03:51] what does it use gstreamer? [03:51] well the problem is that myth's architecture for the backend doesn't bode well with all these projects [03:51] it doesnt use hal/dbus at all [03:51] and it doesn't use gstreamer at all [03:52] just its own integrated ffmpeg [03:52] and raw access to devices [03:52] so its not a good community player in that sense [03:52] its in python as well [03:52] mythbackend? [03:52] no it's in C++ [03:52] gloss [03:52] oh yeah [03:53] dosnt look like they have done any work on the schedular... [03:54] gloss should fold into elisa as a plugin [03:55] yeah [03:55] that would be the perfect solution [03:55] dont really need another music player or slideshow... just do the scheduling and playback from mythbackend [03:56] and in the playback, comm skipping :) [03:56] guess which bits the easiest ;) [03:57] well do you see this gloss guy soaking up his pride and doing that though? [03:57] nope [03:59] ideal world [03:59] man [03:59] ohh... hes got the tv guide http://code.google.com/p/gloss-mc/source/browse/trunk/modules/myth_tv_player/tv_db_controller.py [04:00] poor guy [04:00] he's the only one in #gloss [04:00] lol [04:02] well the problem with gstreamer as a backend [04:03] it can only handle v4l2 [04:03] whereas myth can talk firewire, IP tv, network, and directly to some usb devicii [04:03] in "addition" to v4l2 [04:03] only use gstreamer for mythfrontend [04:04] leave mythbackend alone [04:05] well i wonder if that would be enough to rip out all this nasty ffmpeg code that is hardcoded into myth [04:05] the backend would still need an encoder.... [04:05] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/GMyth [04:05] but playback would be fixed [04:06] interesting, so gmyth's goals are a little larger [04:07] that actaully does what is needed [04:07] yeah [04:08] i still don't think it's a proper solution though [04:08] the way it's implemented at least [04:09] well if i had a combination of additional time and/or intelligence with gstreamer and/or ffmpeg code, i think that this would be a neat project to uptake: porting gstreamer into myth [04:09] to rip out as much ffmpeg as possible [04:09] or at least make it less dependent upon it slowly [04:12] last time there was a big gaping void missing to me though, a distro resulted out of it [04:12] i better stop speculating [04:12] lol [04:13] no mythgbuntu? [04:13] well myth already has its gaping holes of the big SQL dependency [04:13] which is probably more critical [04:14] and it's tight reliance on things internally to QT, where it shouldnt be [04:14] making it a behemoth memory wise [04:14] but no real alternatives [04:15] that's not the right answer [04:15] no one has stepped up to clean it up is [04:15] exactly [04:15] hopefully that will happen though [04:15] Scott D. brought this up on -users actually [04:15] he's the one who got linux to natively boot and run mythbuntu on his apple tv [04:16] ah [04:16] not sure I could live without my mythbox [04:16] after the ugly4 dust settles he said he would look through the code and start submitting patches where it needs cleaning [04:17] what we need to do is find a CS student that needs a senior project [04:17] heh [04:17] <--- IS Student [04:17] and mak... er i mean ask him to get gstreamer used inside myth [04:17] what's IS mean? [04:17] yeah... i want to mess with dvb-t on the card but when can I take it down ..... [04:17] Information Systems [04:18] so that means you need a senior project right? [04:18] plus all we learn at this school is java [04:18] already had my senior project [04:18] basically, IS people are project managers/consultants [04:18] eh close enough. most of gstreamer code looks like another language anyway [04:19] the best example of how to port it over would probably look at totem code for how it can use either xine or gstreamer as a backend [04:19] tgm4883_laptop, here you go http://ooboontoo.blogspot.com/2008/03/gstreamer-with-python-in-qt-learning-by.html [04:19] kde ppl would probably make noise about (is it phonon?) [04:20] oh wtf is phnon? [04:20] is that a gstreamer like thing for KDE? [04:21] they have an abstration layer over gstreamer.... [04:21] why... i dont know [04:25] well it blends well with QT stuff it looks like [04:25] so perhaps that is what it boils down to? [04:26] i guess so... im not sold on all kde4 stuff yet.... [04:26] BAH!! [04:26] Head on apply directly to forehead [09:28] I have problen with latest mythtv version. [09:30] Sory my english, The mythbackend is on all the time and th hd light is blinking. [09:43] and when I start backend I get a errormessage No UPnP backend found. [09:44] and when i install it: Failed to create database (incorrect admin username/password?) [12:00] MythVideo doesnt rely on the mythbackend for playing videos right? Its done entierly from the frontend via NFS mount or equal? [12:02] because I have wierd MythWeb behavior right now as it tries to access videos trough a frontend NFS mount and not locally... === bronson_ is now known as bronson [16:37] hi all [16:39] I've found many forum posts about errors while setting up database after mythbuntu install, but no complete answer [16:39] do you know where this common question is answered ? [16:43] Pasteurized, did you have a root password setup for mysql? [16:50] finaly I found this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Troubleshooting [16:51] but i dont really know if a should use mythtv or root user [16:51] what is the most common tgm4883_laptop ? [16:52] never use root unless you have a damn good reason [16:52] yep, not a bad idea :) [17:11] it still doesnt want to connect to the DB ... :/ [17:11] annoying === rhpot1991_lapto1 is now known as rhpot1991_laptop [20:15] Hello! [20:15] Wow, I just discovered this version, will it fix my problems with Hapenauge PVR-150 [20:17] I'm stoked, Is there a list of supportted tuners for MythBuntu? [20:18] pvr-xxx's should work out of the box [20:25] rhpot1991_laptop: Thank you! I was doing some reading it does look so. [20:26] #, I do have the PVR-1250 too, has anyone had luck with that card? Discussions on it are conflicted! [20:26] my 150 and 350 work painlessly [20:26] Thats great! [20:27] Well worse case, I'll remove my 1250 and put the 150 back! (1250 is PCIe) [20:27] or just leave them both in the box! [20:28] sluggervillan: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_HVR-1250 [20:28] ahhhh, nice, lemme check it! [20:29] seems to indicate the digital portion of it is working [20:32] I use it in windows now, seems to pull in digitals (QAM) right off the line! [20:32] So I guess that will be good, I'll set the 150 for analog and teh 1250 to snag what it can in digital! Hummm! [20:53] hi all [20:53] hi [20:53] i've installed mythbuntu [20:54] but without input card [20:54] just with radeon ve700 graphic card, with tv out [20:55] i have a satellite demodulator [20:55] and i want to put it in my mythvavincaventbox [20:56] witch card can i have for input? [20:57] you have digital satelite? [20:58] yes [20:58] and you want to tune into it directly with your pc, or use a set-top box? [20:58] http://worldsat.rtfm.be/contenus.php?id=235 [20:59] sorry for my english, i'm french, so ..tune? set-top? [20:59] that's a set-top box [21:00] in which case you need 1) to use the analog video output of the set-top box, 2) to get a tv card which can capture that analog output (e.g. a hauppauge pvr150), 3) to use an 'ir blaster' which emulates a tv remote and sends 'change channel' signals to the set-top box when myth needs to change channel [21:02]