[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #217568 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Error activating XKB configuration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217568
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #217627 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Japanese keyboard layout is incorrct in the case of upgrading 7.10 to 8.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217627
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #217210 in ubuntu-jp-improvement "[hardy beta] Error activating XKB configuration (dup-of: 217627)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217210
[10:59] <james_w> seb128: hi.
[10:59] <seb128> hey james_w
[10:59] <james_w> I've got another proposed patch for you
[10:59] <james_w> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7101/
[11:00] <james_w> apologies for the formatting, this file is a pretty terrible mix of tabs and spaces
[11:00] <james_w> I think the bug is caused by decode_edid returning NULL, and so info->manufacturer_code segfaults
[11:00] <seb128> looks good, no worry about the formatting
[11:01] <james_w> info is fine to be null in the else branch and afterwards, so I just added the check
[11:01] <bryce> hey guys
[11:01] <seb128> hey bryce, how are you?
[11:01] <james_w> the second part of the change was just chasing all callers looking for anything that didn't handle NULL from this function (this isn't the only way to get NULL from it though).
[11:01] <james_w> hey bryce 
[11:01] <seb128> james_w: ok
[11:02] <bryce> seb128: feeling married ;-)
[11:02] <seb128> james_w: while you are at it, when running gnome-display-properties you get CRTC and Output lines g_printed, can you comment those?
[11:02] <seb128> bryce: ah right, congratulations!
[11:03] <james_w> congratulations bryce 
[11:03] <bryce> nice work on the patch james.  amazing how little null pointer checking fedora is doing
[11:04] <tjaalton> bryce: congrats! I hope the weather was nice :)
[11:04] <bryce> bdmurray took some photos - http://www.murraytwins.com/gallery/HarringtonWedding
[11:04] <james_w> yeah, your audit helped a lot, but there's still a few places.
[11:04] <bryce> tjaalton: it was the most awesomest weather you could ever have
[11:04] <tjaalton> bryce: heh, seems like it
[11:04] <james_w> bryce: I'll have a little time today to push these patches back upstream if you like.
[11:04] <bryce> james_w: that'd be great
[11:05] <bryce> james_w: not much response on the ones I sent up last week, although sounds like suse merged them into a new git tree (*shrug*)
[11:06] <seb128> could somebody quickly glance at http://paste.ubuntu.com/7102/ and tell me if that looks alright?
[11:06] <bryce> img 1103 - that's cworth with bdmurray's twins; 1105 is bdmurray and tedg, keescook is in 1098 and others
[11:08] <james_w> bryce: ok, where do I send them, to ssp, or is there a list?
[11:08] <bryce> james_w: send them to the gnomecc mailing list
[11:08] <james_w> seb128: I'm not comfortable with gettext, sorry.
[11:08] <james_w> bryce: sure.
[11:08] <bryce> I usually cc ssp, although he's hardly ever responded
[11:09] <seb128> james_w: that's alright
[11:09] <bryce> seb128: looks ok to me 
[11:10] <seb128> thanks
[11:10] <bryce> am I remembering right that N_() is "do not translate"?
[11:10] <seb128> bryce: nice pictures, I didn't know that you know cworth
[11:11] <bryce> seb128: yeah he lives just down the road a bit; we get together for board games periodically and bump into each other at conferences ;-)
[11:11] <seb128> bryce: the struct is static so they can't be translated there, the N_() make those being listed in the template and the _() calls then translate the string used
[11:11] <seb128> bryce: ah ok, small world ;-)
[11:12] <james_w> bryce: I removed the help button in yesterday's upload, is that the best thing for hardy?
[11:12] <tjaalton> mm, bunnies
[11:13] <bryce> james_w: yeah in fact I had "do something with help button" on my todo list since the start.  I'd hoped to write some help text, but your patch is a more realistic solution
[11:16] <bryce> tjaalton: yeah we gave out bunny food as our wedding favors.  ;-)  Thankfully no one got the idea to use it as rice to throw at us!
[11:16] <tjaalton> hehe :)
[11:17] <tjaalton> we had rice I guess.. too bad the car we got into was a convertible :=)
[11:17] <bryce> there were a LOT of children at the wedding in just the right age range to appreciate beaches and bunnies, they had lots of fun
[11:17] <james_w> bryce: yes, it's easy to re-enable it if we have some help text though.
[11:17] <tjaalton> one kid threw a handful right onto my face when I got comfortably on the backseat
[11:18] <bryce> tjaalton: heh
[11:18] <bryce> james_w: ok maybe I'll draft something up tomorrow if I have time
[11:19] <seb128> I would not bother with that
[11:20] <seb128> it likely requires to modify the build system, to have a structured xml, etc and hardy is frozen now
[11:20] <bryce> seb128: oh, okay
[11:21] <seb128> better to focus effort on bugs fixing
[11:23] <bryce> tjaalton: you know how I took as a goal to get -intel to <100 bugs for hardy... for intrepid I'm thinking maybe take the goal of getting our total X bugs to <1000 (from ~1500 currently)
[11:23] <tjaalton> bryce: ambitious but hopefully doable :)
[11:23] <bryce> yup
[11:27] <james_w> seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7103/
[11:28] <seb128> james_w: looks good, thanks, could you just document the new prints change in the changelog though?
[11:29] <james_w> ah yes, of course, sorry
[11:30] <seb128> np
[11:32] <james_w> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7105/
[11:32] <seb128> looks good, I'll sponsor the upload, thanks
[11:32] <james_w> thank you.
[11:53] <james_w> seb128: I've tested the debdiff in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-python/+bug/215714/ and it works, would you be willing to sponsor it?
[11:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 215714 in nautilus-python "The path for python extensions should reflect the 2.0 api" [Medium,Confirmed] 
[11:54] <seb128> james_w: sure
[11:54] <seb128> I'll do that after lunch
[11:54] <james_w> thanks
[12:41] <Q-FUNK> hm
[13:16] <ubotu> New bug: #217694 in xorg (main) "Incorrect resolution Hardy beta nvidia & 1680x1050 LCD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217694
[15:19] <mvo> tjaalton: hello, do you have a moment? I think we talked a while ago about x11-common and that it shouldn't fail if it can not remove /usr/X11R6/bin? I got a report that dapper->hardy can fail if that is not empty and I think that we need to fix it. I'm happy to work on it 
[15:21] <mvo> tjaalton:  just want to confirm with your first
[15:21] <tjaalton> mvo: oh right, sure
[15:22] <tjaalton> so it can be a 3rd party app that installed stuff in there, and then it could be moved aside and let the user know about it?
[15:24] <mvo> bug #217724
[15:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 217724 in xorg "xqbiff prevents x11-common from removing /usr/X11R6/bin" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217724
[15:24] <mvo> yeah
[15:24] <mvo> everything is better than to fail in the preinst
[15:25] <mvo> I would say move away and debconf note it, with critical priority if its that important (I have no idea), but failure is the worst solution :)
[15:26] <mvo> tjaalton: I milestoned it and will check it out after I finished with my current stuff (unless you are quicker of course :P)
[15:31] <ubotu> New bug: #217724 in xorg (main) "xqbiff prevents x11-common from removing /usr/X11R6/bin" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217724
[15:33] <tjaalton> mvo: heh
[15:36] <tjaalton> maybe it would make sense to also add a Conflicts against every package in dapper which has stuff in there.. because otherwise you can't remove those packages fully after the migration, right?
[15:49] <Q-FUNK> tjaalton: anything to add to bug #211385 ?
[15:49] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 211385 in xserver-xorg-video-amd "please sync xserver-xorg-video-geode (main) from Debian (main)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211385
[15:53] <tjaalton> Q-FUNK: yes, I basically agree with what you said
[15:53] <tjaalton> so I'll follow up on the bug
[15:54] <Q-FUNK> ok, thanks
[16:01] <mvo> tjaalton: right, a conflicts; foo << (version-with-stuff-in-x11r6)
[16:02] <tjaalton> mvo: yeah.. apt-file failed on me, but there should be a way to get a list of apps that use that dir?
[16:02] <mvo> tjaalton: we can simply grab the contents file in dapper
[16:03] <tjaalton> mvo: right, that's what apt-file should use too
[16:04] <mvo> joy, looks like the contens file in dapper is empty
[16:05] <tjaalton> k.. :P
[16:12] <tjaalton> bbl, haircut ->
[16:18] <mvo> tjaalton: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/tmp/xorg_7.3+10ubuntu10.debdiff <- please have a look when you are back
[16:32] <ubotu> New bug: #216683 in firefox-3.0 (main) "Black rectangle instead of image in FF3 [Hardy] (dup-of: 182038)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216683
[16:39] <jcristau> tjaalton: bug 217647 might want 9500033b9ecdfaf5a56a4355ffc94d74cb17ca17
[16:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 217647 in xorg-server "Crash at startup on PS3 (hardy)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217647
[17:26] <ubotu> New bug: #217804 in xorg (main) "External screen goes BLACK or GRAY" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217804
[18:04] <Q-FUNK> oh.  new core package?
[19:40] <mvo> tjaalton: did you had a chance to look at my debdiff yet?
[20:31] <ubotu> New bug: #217867 in xorg-server (main) "package xserver-xorg-core 2:1.3.0.0.dfsg-12ubuntu8.3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217867
[21:40] <tjaalton> mvo: yeah, sorry it took a while
[21:40] <tjaalton> mvo: looks good. should I commit it and upload for RC?
[21:42] <mvo> tjaalton: yeah, that would be cool. I will just run a upgrade test, should be finished in some minutes (~20min)
[22:12] <tjaalton> jcristau: thanks, it looks like a valid patch to add even at this stage
[22:17] <mvo> tjaalton: all looks good, please go ahead with the upload
[22:19] <mvo> tjaalton: maybe we should add a conflicts against xqbiff as well
[22:20] <mvo> tjaalton: it got removed from ubuntu, but at least the dapper version still has stuff in /usr/X11R6/bin
[22:20] <tjaalton> mvo: yep, I'll add it
[22:21] <mvo> tjaalton: great, thanks
[22:21]  * mvo hugs tjaalton
[22:24]  * tjaalton hugs mvo back
[22:25]  * mvo -> bed
[23:36] <ubotu> New bug: #183970 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "[livecd] LiveCd on HP Compaq 6715s stops when trying to display desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183970