[00:00] <mneptok> peter77: use the beta CD.
[00:00] <VeN0mizer> ...alright *scratches head* won't argue with you on that one lol
[00:00] <BarryToeman> Siph0n: well, at least it works better than my suggestions
[00:00] <joe1> peter: it gets released in less than two weeks, just wait it out ;)
[00:00] <ShdwShinobi> afewnips-o-ubunt, I'm using gutsy with all the updates, do you think if I used hardy it might fix my problem?
[00:00] <peter77> mneptok, am doing :-)
[00:00] <dmsuperman> ShdwShinobi, if you do decide to try it out, I highly suggest a full disk backup, becaue quite a few people come in here with issues for hardy
[00:01] <CorbinFox> I am having a problem where the desktop freezes for a split second to a second every little bit.  there is sometihng logged in the Xorg log but I don't know how to figure out what is going on.  any help?  I was told once that maybe turning off one of my cores may solve the problem, but i dont know how to do it.  A boot command maybe?
[00:01] <spork969> what is the bash command to create a folder?
[00:01] <peter77> mneptok, probably put on a RW so as I can erase it later
[00:01] <joe1> peter: the new kernel that came out a couple days ago is NOT stable
[00:01] <dmsuperman> CorbinFox, 1: You can't really turn off a core. 2: sounds like a driver issue
[00:01] <joe1> peter: lots of bug reports, I'm having a ton of problems with -16
[00:01] <dmsuperman> spork969, mkdir
[00:01] <amenado> Siph0n-> what  you pasted gave you a clue as to which is wireless did it not?
[00:01] <spork969> dmsuperman, thanks i knew that lol
[00:02] <ShdwShinobi> dmsuperman, full disk backup as in the whole filesystem or just the hardy partition?
[00:02] <CorbinFox> dmsuperman: i was told i could....and either way the issue persists if i use the Restricted drivers or the nonrestricted ones that come with ubuntu out of the box
[00:02] <Howitzer_> wtf
[00:02] <afewnips-o-ubunt> ShdwShinobi, vooodoo-raindance-technique, i think the problem is elsewhere
[00:02] <dmsuperman> CorbinFox, try an older driver, or if there's a newer one update it. I had the same problem, and it was fixed with an update
[00:03] <dmsuperman> ShdwShinobi, the whole filesystem, minutes any extra drives mounted
[00:03] <testecletes> hihi
[00:03] <dmsuperman> ShdwShinobi, so yeah, just the gutsy partition :P
[00:03] <Siph0n> amenado, I know the wireless driver it is using is rtl8187, i know the interface it is using is wlan0, but I dont know why in lshw -C network it doesnt list the driver, and why in lspci it doesnt list the chipset :)
[00:03] <ShdwShinobi> lol, ok :)
[00:03] <CorbinFox> dmsuperman: would you be able to help this nooby fox with how to upgrade/downgrade the drivers should there be somoe available?
[00:04] <user1> is there a very reliable download manager with excellent resume support?
[00:04] <dmsuperman> CorbinFox, i'm not 100% sure, just go on the website and see if you can find an older driver and install that
[00:04] <Zelta> user1: For a browser?
[00:04] <afewnips-o-ubunt> user1 downthemall
[00:04] <Zelta> Try DownThemall
[00:04] <Zelta> yes
[00:04] <user1> Zelta ya..
[00:05] <user1> afewnips-o-ubunt Zelta ok.. thx. its better than kget?
[00:05] <dmsuperman> user1, yeah, downthemall is great
[00:05] <amenado> Siph0n-> try lspci -vvv
[00:05] <Zelta> mhmm
[00:05] <user1> dmsuperman k
[00:05] <afewnips-o-ubunt> user1 i dont use/like kde
[00:05] <user1> k
[00:05] <Steelemax> how do you remove directories?
[00:05] <dmsuperman> rm
[00:05] <afewnips-o-ubunt> -rf
[00:05] <joe1> sudo rm -r /directory
[00:05] <Steelemax> thanks
[00:06] <afewnips-o-ubunt> the / directory *G*
[00:06] <Steelemax> was that a bot?  it was fast
[00:07] <spork969> what is the bash command to copy and paste a file?
[00:07] <Starnestommy> spork969: cp?
[00:07] <joe1> a bash command?
[00:07] <spork969> starnestommy, yeah thanks
[00:08] <Siph0n> amenado, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63238/ is the output of lspci -vvv , but i still do not see anything that would help me
[00:09] <user1> how to run adept from command line?
[00:09] <habernet> hey guys, i was running amarok and it randomly shut down, now even after restarting my computer i cannot open amarok, what do i do?
[00:10] <BarryToeman> habernet: as a start I would open a terminal and try to start amarok from there.  it should tell you any errors.
[00:10] <BarryToeman> maybe
[00:10] <testecletes> is the amarok process running?
[00:10] <afewnips-o-ubunt> spork969 cat
[00:11] <VeN0mizer> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[00:11] <testecletes> ask googal
[00:11] <LjL> !aptitude | VeN0mizer
[00:11] <ubotu> VeN0mizer: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[00:11] <Zelta> one has one more character than the other
[00:12] <VeN0mizer> !apt-get | VeN0mizer
[00:12] <ShdwShinobi> !apt-get
[00:12] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[00:12] <LjL> VeN0mizer: aptitude also has more advanced searching capabilities... and a text-mode GUI, if you ever want one
[00:12] <amenado> Siph0n-> dont know, this is an embedded wifi card? or a usb pluggable card?
[00:12] <kernfreak> I sit in these rooms all the time, and the problems people are having with linux are crazy. Even the smallest stuff like "installing a program", or "hardware not working", some serious renovation needs to be done with linux
[00:12] <Siph0n> amenado, embedded wifi card
[00:12] <spork969> im having some trouble installing java
[00:12] <user1> user1@computer1:~$ kdesu adept
[00:12] <user1> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 15 06:20:38 2008
[00:13] <Zelta> kernfreak: if hardware vendors don't release hardware drivers for linux, not much can be done about it
[00:13] <testecletes> kernfreak, what would you suggest?
[00:13] <Siph0n> amenado, but like i said before, its not really a problem, because it works out of the box.... and I have no issues with it, cept I wanted to learn more
[00:13] <testecletes> Zelta, agreed
[00:13] <ronmexico> could anyone helpe me with a wine and steam problem? source games turn black after their initial loading screen, i have an ati vid card if that helps
[00:13] <spork969> im doing what it says here http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#rpm but i cant get it to work
[00:13] <amenado> Siph0n-> perhaps the vendor website has more info, look around your bios too
[00:14] <BarryToeman> why are the floodbots so active now?
[00:14] <LjL> because one of them is very lagged
[00:14] <kernfreak> hardware DOES work, configuring it is way to difficult in alot of cases, alot of the hardware issues I believe are related to the fact that linux is monolithic,
[00:14] <Zelta> spork969: Ubuntu does not use the RPM Package Management system
[00:14] <amenado> Siph0n-> and what shows if you do   iwconfig wlan0 ;  iwlist wlan0 scan  ?
[00:14] <spork969> Zelta, that explains it...
[00:15] <Zelta> and linux is not monolithic...
[00:15] <kernfreak> the kernel is a monolithic kernel
[00:15] <Zelta> most hardware issues are related to vendors not releasing drivers ;)
[00:15] <Zelta> or at least not releasing open source drivers
[00:16] <kernfreak> it now has a userspace driver api, but some of the driver stills needs to be in the kernel, preventing vendors from releasing opensource drivers
[00:16] <Zelta> the only reason most hardware "just works" in windows is because Microsoft has made a lot of deals with vendors concerning drivers
[00:16] <Siph0n> amenado, iwconfig wlan0 shows my essid, AP, and some other stuff... nothing special.... iwlist wlan0 scan shows "No scan results"
[00:16] <kernfreak> well "propriatary drivers" rather
[00:17] <TrickFinlay2> does anyone know a good subnet calculator?
[00:18] <daire> when i installed 7.10 and enabled my nvidia restricted device driver my sound and graphics (at full resolution) just worked. should i install drivers for all my other hardware?
[00:18] <Varka> TrickFinlay2, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gip-ip-calculator-for-gnome-desktop-environment.html
[00:19] <spork969> ok, so i did everything here http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting but i get the message "failed to extract files"
[00:19] <Varka> TrickFinlay2, or ksubnet if youre using kde
[00:19] <kernfreak> this is offtopic though, and who am I too judge, and linux isnt ever going to be a microkernel, we will just make it work, and it does that well.
[00:19] <mrkeishii> how do you make a directory
[00:19] <TrickFinlay2> thanks Varka,im on gnome
[00:20] <kernfreak> mkdir driname
[00:20] <mrkeishii> how do you make a directory?
[00:20] <opusdeux> mkdir <dirname>
[00:20] <mrkeishii> oh okay
[00:20] <amenado> Siph0n-> last one ...   lshal
[00:21] <nickrud> spork969 why not just run sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin (plugin for 32bit)
[00:21] <spork969> nickrud, nvm i forgot sudo
[00:21] <hedning> my first 5 hours with ubuntu... :D like it so far
[00:21] <Siph0n> amenado, that gives a LOT of info... can i limit it somehow?
[00:21] <Aval0n> anyone in here know much about plasma tv's?
[00:22] <amenado> Siph0n-> yeah grep for whatever info you seek
[00:22] <Zelta> !ot | Aval0n
[00:22] <ubotu> Aval0n: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:22] <Aval0n> I am having some weird banding issues
[00:22] <Aval0n> Zelta this concerns my HTPC running ubuntu out
[00:22] <Aval0n> to my plasma
[00:22] <Zelta> ah
[00:22] <Zelta> nvm then :)
[00:22] <Aval0n> ;)
[00:22] <VeN0mizer> you didn't use the DVI connection did you? lol
[00:22] <susanoo> will the ubuntu 8.04 be released with gnash ?
[00:23] <amenado> plasma tv  32 inches ruffly 750-1200 dollars
[00:23] <Zelta> !hardy | susanoo
[00:23] <ubotu> susanoo: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[00:23] <Aval0n> yes
[00:23] <Aval0n> I did
[00:23] <Aval0n> I used hdmi actually
[00:23] <VeN0mizer> oh ok
[00:23] <VeN0mizer> I always heard the DVI on TV's and computers used different protocols
[00:23] <VeN0mizer> 8shrug*
[00:24] <Siph0n> amenado, ok it appears to be a usb device, but its not plugged into any usb port
[00:24] <Aval0n> it does
[00:24] <Aval0n> but this TV, has a specific HDMI port for PC
[00:24] <Aval0n> grabs 1360x768 via edid instantly
[00:24] <Aval0n> 1:1 pixel mapping
[00:24] <u^A> is it possible that clean install failed because of some unknown files left in the hdd that triggered the process?
[00:24] <amenado> Siph0n-> i know its a long output, feed it to a file, then use vim to edit the file
[00:25] <spork969> im trying to run a program through wine but i get an error message saying "cannot find java 1.4" i just installed java 6. do i need to downgrade?
[00:25] <amenado> u^A what happened after you installed? what errors?
[00:25] <u^A> i can't reinstall ubuntu because of grub failure
[00:26] <amenado> !who  | u^A
[00:26] <ubotu> u^A: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[00:26] <u^A> failed on grub because of unknown /target/
[00:26] <Scunizi> u^A, do you have more than one drive?
[00:26] <u^A> ya
[00:26] <Scunizi> u^A, and is one ide and the other sata?
[00:26] <u^A> one primary drive with xp
[00:26] <spork969> im trying to run a program through wine but i get an error message saying "cannot find java 1.4" i just installed java 6. do i need to downgrade?
[00:27] <matrix> hi
[00:27] <cheesypieces> hi guys, do you know how i could make awm always be on top of a gnome panel?
[00:27] <u^A> ya Scunizi
[00:27] <Scunizi> u^A, so yes to a mix of drive types?
[00:27] <amenado> spork969-> not sure if you can have wine share the java and then your app..
[00:27] <Tigerplug_> hey whats up?
[00:27] <spork969> amenado, i installed java through sudo apt-get install
[00:28] <amenado> spork969-> besides why do you need wine if the program is java based?
[00:28] <Scunizi> u^A, and did you install ubuntu on the second drive? or the primary one with windows.?
[00:28] <spork969> amenado, .exe file
[00:28] <testecletes> cheesypieces, its in the preferences
[00:28] <u^A> Scunizi: i had never have such complications of installing or reinstalling
[00:28] <amenado> spork969-> then that is not java, java are usually  jar files or class
[00:28] <u^A> Scunizi: on the 2nd drive with ide
[00:28] <matrix> plz, i need you help, got a problem with my webcam my webcam only work when i connect it after starting my computer, if I connect it before and then I start my computer it doesn't work ? why ? what can I do ? (i already put gspca in etc/modules)
[00:28] <testecletes> cheesypieces, you right click the awn bar, and go into preferences, and it's under the general tab, BAR BEHAVIOR
[00:28] <u^A> Scunizi: i have both ide sorry
[00:28] <spork969> amenado, i know, but it says it was looking for java, so i installed it
[00:29] <testecletes> cheesypieces, check maximized windows don't cover bar
[00:29] <amenado> spork969-> what program is it?
[00:29] <cheesypieces> testecletes: i've done that, but my panel still covers it
[00:29] <testecletes> restart x
[00:29] <Scunizi> u^A, ok.. and after install on reboot it gave you the error?
[00:29] <testecletes> ctrl alt bckspc
[00:29] <spork969> amenado, an old program called jhymn, it converts media files without loss of quality
[00:30] <wigren> i have a 64 bit processor. should i be using the x86_64 version of ubuntu?
[00:30] <u^A> Scunizi: there seem some files attached to the drive, can't install grub during the installation
[00:30] <NickDngr> i installed the 32-bit b/c i couldn't find a 64 bit version of hardy
[00:30] <NickDngr> it works fine
[00:30] <NickDngr> but when the or comes out i'm going to do a clean reinstall
[00:30] <osfameron> are there tutorials on how to set up sound with audacity?  OSS doesn't work, ALSA doesn't work.  ESD+ALSA works, but with garbled recording intermittently
[00:30] <amenado> spork969-> maybe you can expand or uncompress the .exe then look for the jar files there?
[00:31] <u^A> Scunizi: the file permissions are messing up, i can su root even I didn't
[00:31] <spork969> amenado, how?
[00:31] <amenado> spork969-> uncab ?
[00:31] <wigren> nickdngr: im using the 32 version. im just wondering if there is a performance or any other compelling reason to switch
[00:31] <cheesypieces> testecletes: i've just restarted x, same problem though
[00:31] <spork969> amenado, ill try
[00:32] <NickDngr> wigren: i, personally, just feel more comfortable using an os tailored for the processor
[00:32] <amenado> spork969-> rather cabextract ?
[00:32] <Scunizi> u^A, brb on phone
[00:32] <u^A> ok thanks
[00:32] <philipsmith> I installed 7z and can't find it under "applications." Where is it?
[00:32] <Kakurady> Hardy's ntfs-3g just made one of my NTFS folder unaccessible to Windows (can't even delete it). I was writing to it using an Windows app running on Wine. Not that there's any important data in it, but I want to know how to fix the folder / debug the fs.
[00:32] <spork969> amenado, are those apps or commands?
[00:33] <amenado> spork969-> i dont remember exact commands, i have to download and install a package for those
[00:33] <savageone> hey folks
[00:33] <spork969> amenado, sudo apt-get install cabextract?
[00:34] <Jberg88> hey
[00:34] <amenado> spork969-> yeah
[00:34] <savageone> I want to sell machines with ubuntu but there's the issue of licensing for dvd playback.  Dell is using corel's lindvd.  Anyone else aware of any other pay-for product so I can do this right?  I don't wnat to get into any legal trouble.  We're in the US.  How are other manufacturers handling this?
[00:35] <Scunizi> u^A, was this secondary drive you put Ubuntu on empty at the time? and is Vista on the primary?
[00:35] <spork969> amenado, "no valid cabinets found"
[00:35] <cheesypieces> guys, is there a way to not have the white handles on the edge of panels when they're not expanded?
[00:35] <kittykitty> savageone if you're selling linux boxes, i'm sure the lusers can figure out dvd playback for themselves
[00:35] <_Rambaldi_> you know how ie7 saves all files streamed in temporary internet folder, what browser saves like that. firefox deletes its files immediately even with cache at 1Gb
[00:35] <CorbinFox> is there a command to kill Xorg temporarily?  It seems i need to turn xorg off to install my vid card drivers (makes sense)
[00:35] <amenado> spork969-> oh well, you have to go back to where you get that jhymn app and look around at their web site for support
[00:36] <savageone> kitty: Not all of my users.  I'm really trying to push this as an easy to use alternative to windows and osx. I've sold several but like I said I want everything to be legal
[00:36] <Stroganoff> i'd not be so sure, kittykitty :D
[00:36] <spork969> amenado, ugh, their website is crap...
[00:36] <savageone> I can appreciate that some people's approach is to let the custome figure it out but we're dealing with some rather difficult rather wealthy customers
[00:36] <LiraNuna> anyone here knows how to have multiseat working?
[00:36] <elmer> My Wacom isn't working correctly
[00:37] <_Rambaldi_> you want to stop gdm? CorbinFox
[00:37] <kittykitty> i rather dislike commercial - for profit plugins/libs on an open system, it just makes me feel dirty
[00:37] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, which vid drivers?
[00:37] <Scunizi> CorbinFox, ctrl+alt+F2 then log in.. then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop.. install drivers.. reboot or you can try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[00:37] <CorbinFox> elmer: did you just plug it in? or have you tried configuring it
[00:37] <u^A> Scunizi: the first drive is xp and the second drive is for ubuntu
[00:37] <elmer> CorbinFox, I have a full write up here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4717812
[00:38] <cheesypieces> guys, is there a way to not have the white handles on the edge of panels when they're not expanded?
[00:38] <CorbinFox> elmer: if you just plugged it in, then you need to do some simple configuration.  go Synaptic, then search Wacom, and enable all the packages that show up there.  then go into your Xorg.conf file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) with root priviliges and uncomment the wacom tablet options at the bottom
[00:38] <savageone> does the pay-for ubuntu version come with legal dvd playback?
[00:38] <spork969> amenado, i give up, this is too much stress
[00:38] <amenado> savageone  dont know if movieX or emovieX have those restrictions, i dont know much about it.
[00:38] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, which vid drivers?
[00:38] <spork969> amenado, thanks for the help
[00:38] <harveyd> I installed the hardy heron beta from cd today, and it will only let me login through "failsafe gnome"
[00:39] <sudobash> hey Im having trouble with spdif in 7.10... it was working up till yesterday after updates... livecd works with spdif coax but my 7.10 install does not
[00:39] <amenado> harveyd please visit #ubuntu+1
[00:39] <harveyd> when I use a normal session, it boots me back to the login screen in the middle of loading
[00:39] <CorbinFox> hyperstrea: i am trying to upgrade my nvidia GeForce 6150 GO to the latest version from nvidia.
[00:39] <CorbinFox> do you know if the drivers from the Restricted drivers manager are the most updated?
[00:39] <elmer> CorbinFox, I did that, just read the topic. It has a write-up thing.
[00:39] <hyperstream> use the restricted drivers
[00:39] <Dgro> Hi
[00:39] <harveyd> ok, thanks
[00:39] <hyperstream> i belive so
[00:40] <Pelo> savageone, dvd playback is not included default in ubuntu because of copyrigth restrictions in some country,  but it is easily installed
[00:40] <sudobash> i have already done update upgrade and reisntalled everything to do with alsa and sound base
[00:40] <Scunizi> u^A, ok.. there's a couple of suggestions.. delete all partitions on the second drive and reinstall.. or.. disconnect the primary drive and make the secondary the primary.. leaving the original disconnected install ubuntu as if it's a 1 drive sys. then plug in the orig. primary again in the primary position, use the live cd to reinstall grub (on both drives). if it errors then set the bios to boot from the secondary drive and all should b
[00:40] <Scunizi> e good.
[00:40] <matrix> plz, i need you help, got a problem with my webcam my webcam only work when i connect it after starting my computer, if I connect it before and then I start my computer it doesn't work ? why ? what can I do ? (i already put gspca in etc/modules)
[00:40] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: thing is, I am.  and my desktop freezes every little bit for a half sec or so (and an nvidia warning shows up in the Xorg log)
[00:40] <hyperstream> pastebin the warnings
[00:40] <Dgro> I haven't figured out plugins and downloads.  Help!
[00:40] <CorbinFox> elmer: ok, just do what i said and you should be set
[00:40] <Scunizi> u^A, you could also just try to reinstall grub using the live cd.
[00:41] <u^A> Scunizi: sure
[00:41] <BigDaddy> OK guys, this is driving me batty. Somehow, I cannot change the color of my GNOME scheme. No matter what metacity theme I choose, it will always be blue. Ever hear of this?
[00:41] <Scunizi> u^A, which one?
[00:41] <u^A> Scunizi: i used alternate cd
[00:41] <todd_> .
[00:41] <Scunizi> u^A, ah.. is it gutsy or hardy?
[00:41] <u^A> Scunizi: it's hardy
[00:41] <CorbinFox> elmer: go synaptic, search wacom, install all the packages that show up from the search, then go into Xorg and remove the # from the options under the line that says "# uncomment if you have a wacom tablet"
[00:41] <elmer> CorbinFox, I am doing that now
[00:41] <elmer> thanks
[00:41] <CorbinFox> elmer: then restart Xorg and you should be set
[00:42] <sudobash> im just going to install 8.04...
[00:42] <sudobash> what version comes after 8.04?
[00:42] <CorbinFox> elmer: im using the graphire4 like you, and i suffered the same issues
[00:42] <elmer> CorbinFox, when I searched Wacom it gave There is no matching application available
[00:42] <sudobash> have they even started on it yet?
[00:42] <CorbinFox> sudobash: 8.10
[00:42] <Scunizi> u^A, this might be an issue that is different .. a bug maybe.. you should ask about this in the Hardy channel at #ubuntu+1 before doing what I suggested.. they may have a simple fix..
[00:42] <CorbinFox> elmer: do you have multiverse or whatever enabled?
[00:42] <harveyd> this is one can probably answered here, anyone know how to get the panels (taskbar, menus) etc back when ubuntu doesnt load them on boot
[00:42] <sudobash> is it in beta testing so we can download it?
[00:42] <CorbinFox> maybe not multiverse
[00:43] <elmer> CorbinFox, I don't fully understand you.
[00:43] <CorbinFox> sudobash: 8.04 is in beta, 8.10 isn't started yet
[00:43] <u^A> ok Scunizi thanks
[00:43] <sudobash> harevy sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[00:43] <Scunizi> u^A, no problem
[00:43] <Pelo> harveyd, alt F2 ,  gnome-panel
[00:43] <CorbinFox> elmer: go System > administration > software sources
[00:43] <BigDaddy> I know this sounds like a stupid problem, but it is really bugging me. I this just started and it is really annoying. I am running Gutsy.
[00:43] <sudobash> or what pel0 says
[00:44] <CorbinFox> elmer: then check Universe if it isn't already
[00:44] <Pelo> BigDaddy, what's the issue ?
[00:44] <BigDaddy> . Somehow, I cannot change the color of my GNOME scheme. No matter what metacity theme I choose, it will always be blue. Ever hear of this?
[00:44] <elmer> CorbinFox, done.
[00:44] <elmer> CorbinFox, it was already enabled
[00:45] <Pelo> BigDaddy,  do you have the desktop effects enabled ?
[00:45] <cpk1> how do you find out which interrupts devices are using?
[00:45] <BigDaddy> Pelo: no, compiz has not been used on here since Sept when I installed Ubuntu
[00:45] <Pelo> cpk1, hardware info in the prefs menu
[00:45] <thedonvaughn> BigDaddy: u get colors from control changes usually.  there should be a colors tab in customize theme under gnome's apperance properties
[00:46] <Ntemis> hello
[00:46] <zamarax> anyone else having problems as of recent with apt-get and medibuntu.org?
[00:46] <zamarax> it just seems to hang and stall on me
[00:46] <Pelo> BigDaddy, not compiz , see if you have emerald installed,  thats's usualy the issue,
[00:46] <CorbinFox> elmer: hmm, and wacom-tools doesn't show up in synaptic?
[00:46] <BigDaddy> thedonvaughn: yes I know, no matter what colors I choose, it remains blue
[00:46] <poopix> I'm using opensuse 10.3 right now and I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 in a virtualbox, but after I choose to install it and the loading screen goes away, I just get a black screen. It's been like this for 10 minutes. Anyone know whats wrong?
[00:46] <Ntemis> can anyone tell me how i can make my desktop a cube ?
[00:46] <BigDaddy> Pelo: lemme check... I know I never installed that though
[00:46] <elmer> CorbinFox, I already sudo apt-get'd wacom-tools
[00:47] <BigDaddy> Pelo: no emerald. just checked
[00:47] <_Rambaldi_> have you installed compiz Ntemis
[00:47] <Pelo> BigDaddy, I had  a similar issue to yours when using compiz / emerald,  that's why I asked,
[00:47] <thedonvaughn> Ntemis: if you have compiz installed just install compizconfig-settings-manager and u can customize your compiz settings
[00:47] <CorbinFox> elmer: and it is installed, yes? and try for xserver-xorg-input-wacom too
[00:47] <cpk1> Pelo:  is there a more generic way? I'm on kde
[00:47] <CorbinFox> elmer: "xserver-xorg-input-wacom" i mean
[00:47] <Pelo> BigDaddy, try this, goto www.gnome-looks.org,  dl a gtk2 theme, any theme drag drop it in the theme manager , see if it works
[00:47] <BigDaddy> Pelo: the only thing I have done is installed kde. but I also uninstalled gtk-qt so that my gnome settings would not be touched
[00:47] <hyperstream> Ntemis, : go to system pref > appearance
[00:48] <CorbinFox> elmer: then uncomment the wacom portion in Xorg and restart.  then you should be okay
[00:48] <zamarax> no, no one else?
[00:48] <BigDaddy> pelo:I'm on it. just a sec.
[00:48] <hyperstream> Visual effects and choose the bottum on
[00:48] <Ntemis> i have compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:48] <Pelo> cpk1, there is probably a similar app in  kde but I don't know it
[00:48] <hyperstream> then get compizconfig-settings-manaer
[00:48] <CorbinFox> is there a terminal command that just ends Xorg without me needing log out or anything to do it?
[00:48] <thedonvaughn> Ntemis: System -> Preference -> Compizconfig settings
[00:48] <hyperstream> and go to System Pref Advanced Desktop settings
[00:48] <hyperstream> then tick roation cuve in there
[00:49] <thedonvaughn> Ntemis: go to Desktop section and pick "Desktop Cube" and "Rotate Cube".  might need to also go to "General Options" and make sure your desktop is one row of 4 virtual desktops.  1x4
[00:49] <Pelo> BigDaddy, if you removed stuff you might have removed something needed, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  that will restore any missing packages from the default install
[00:50] <thedonvaughn> CorbinFox: ctrl+alt+backspace :)
 i think that is the problem ;)
[00:50] <Ntemis> thanks for the info
[00:50] <bazhang> poopix: the host os is Suse? using vbox? probably best bet is to check #suse
[00:50] <Ntemis> all the others are checked!
[00:50] <elmer> CorbinFox, done, restarting X
[00:50] <thedonvaughn> Ntemis: yah make sure you have one 4 for horizontal size and that's it for Desktop Size
[00:50] <CorbinFox> thedonvaughn: but that just restards xorg, i want it turned off so i can upgrade the vid card
[00:50] <poopix> ah ok, thanks bazhang
[00:50] <v3trae> Hello, i just converted from Gentoo to Ubuntu and i'm curious if there is a "startup" folder in Gnome, something i can throw commands in if i want them to start when gnome does.
[00:51] <BigDaddy> Pelo: I just installed a new on, it turned blue
[00:51] <thedonvaughn> CorbinFox: ctrl+alt+F1, log into a virtual console and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[00:51] <heckarim> help
[00:51] <Pelo> v3trae,  ~/.config/autostart
[00:51] <v3trae> Pelo: thank you +)
[00:51] <thedonvaughn> CorbinFox: make sure you log out too before you stop gdm
[00:51] <BigDaddy> Pelo: I will try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop
[00:51] <Pelo> v3trae, generaly you put app lauchers in tere
[00:51] <bazhang> heckarim: we need an actual question
[00:52] <v3trae> Pelo: the folder isn't there, i assume i can just make it and it'll work?
[00:52] <thedonvaughn> v3trae: you can create a script and run it in Preferences -> Sessiosns
[00:52] <v3trae> thedonvaughn: i'll look into that too, thank you
[00:52] <Pelo> v3trae, it's a hidden folder,   crtl H to view
[00:52] <_Rambaldi_> v3trae, system > sessins, you add commands there
[00:53] <_Rambaldi_> systems > preferences > sessions actually v3trae
[00:53] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, what error message warning?
[00:53] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: give me a sec and i'll grab it
[00:53] <v3trae> Also i was going to ask, does anyone use Tilda at all? Got it working on Gentoo no problem but having trouble with it here. It'll run and everything but as i type, characters 2-3 behind the cursor will go transparent, so i can only see the last 2-3 characters typed
[00:53] <Ntemis> havent done it yet
[00:54] <Ntemis> please anyone can help me?
[00:54] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, thanks
[00:54] <v3trae> _Rambaldi_: aye i found it thank you. Much cleaner then throwing it in a folder =)
[00:54] <ClickClickBoom> hi, does anyone know how to get VMware to do NAT from ubuntu guest to windows host?
[00:54] <Ntemis> i have 4 desk
[00:54] <elmer> CorbinFox, I think I deleted something bad... I am now at 800x600. Oh dear. Could you give me the link I gave you so I can get my old xorg.conf from there?
[00:54] <Pelo> Ntemis, whats, the issue ?
[00:54] <Ntemis> but i cannot cube
[00:54] <_Rambaldi_> np v3trae
[00:54] <ryanzec> is there a way to allow me to set a folder so that all files and files is subfolder will allow for read and write by all by default?
[00:54] <Pelo> Ntemis, ask in #compiz
[00:54] <CorbinFox> elmer: sure
[00:54] <elmer> CorbinFox, thanks
[00:54] <CorbinFox> elmer:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4717812
[00:54] <elmer> thanks
[00:54] <Ntemis> ctrl+alt+left dor give me the cube
[00:54] <peter77> I've tried the solution here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000N100_0768 to fix my sound but now it doesn't work at all :-(
[00:55] <thedonvaughn> Ntemis: does it do anything?
[00:55] <_Rambaldi_> set the permission for all ryanzec
[00:55] <ClickClickBoom> i have entered the IP and SN that VMware says, but it won't conntect to internet
[00:56] <neil> I am looking to put a run a python script in the background, how can i do this?
[00:56] <elmer> restarting X again...
[00:56] <zamarax> hey guys, is there is a quick minimize to dekstop for compiz similiar to windows superkey+D ?
[00:56] <thedonvaughn> neil: script.py & would be simplest
[00:56] <crdlb> zamarax: ctrl+alt+D
[00:56] <rainrunner87> Anyone familiar with Wily?  I'm trying to import the wily module in Python and not having much luck.  It appears to not have been included in the package from the repos, from what I can tell...  Anyone have a suggestion for where to look?
[00:56] <Pelo> neil,  you mean daemonise it ? not sure but I think that's the keyword you need to be searching with
[00:56] <zamarax> thanks!
[00:56] <Pelo> later folks
[00:57] <neil> thedonvaughn: & doesnt seem to do anything
[00:57] <BigDaddy> Pelo: do you know where the color schemes for gnome are kept?
[00:57] <thedonvaughn> neil: it forks a process to the background
[00:57] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: wouldnt you know it that the log isn't showing it right now.  it hasn't happened since i started xorg last i guess
[00:57] <ryanzec> _rambaldi: i do and then i update form svn and the permission change to onyl for me but that is not want i want
[00:58] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: give me a minute and i think i can coax the log tho, since it seems to happen most often when i am surfing the web (at least i notice it more i guess)
[00:58] <_Rambaldi_> what is svn ryanzec
[00:58] <elmer> Oh dear. I messed it up. It won't display 1440x900! Gah!
[00:58] <ryanzec> subversion, source control management
[00:58] <ubuntu> whats the link for kubuntu on linux.com how to install there are 3 moives
[00:58] <ubuntu> movies*
[00:59] <CorbinFox> elmer: :'(   actually somehwere in the xorg log there is a command to reset it
[00:59] <neil> Figured it out nohup python s.py & works
[00:59] <neil> :D
[00:59] <CorbinFox> elmer: let me find it if i can for you
[00:59] <elmer> CorbinFox, current xorg.conf: http://slexy.org/view/s20ZmQqhrv
[00:59] <CorbinFox> elmer: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg     that should do it...hopefully
[00:59] <elmer> OK
[00:59] <elmer> I will try it
[00:59] <ubuntu> anybody:P
[01:00] <zamarax> also, in CompizConfig Manager, what's the options that allow the windows to be presented like they are in ring switch when you move towards one corner of the screen?
[01:00] <ubuntu> ok i got it
[01:00] <bazhang> ubuntu not sure what you mean
[01:00] <_Rambaldi_> well i am not quiet sure how to assist you, but if you want to share a file for all, put it in /home and set permission for 766
[01:00] <elmer> CorbinFox, OK, I ran that. Do I just restart X again?
[01:00] <CorbinFox> elmer: yeah
[01:00] <elmer> OK
[01:00] <elmer> trying...
[01:00] <_Rambaldi_> well i am not quiet sure how to assist you, but if you want to share a file for all, put it in /home and set permission for 766 ryanzec
[01:01] <Scunizi> ubuntulog, do you have ubuntu installed already? if so just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and change sessions at the log-in screen to kde.
[01:01] <cheesypieces> hi guys, anyone have any idea why i can't see awn-extras in synaptic?
[01:01] <ryanzec> _rambalbi: nvm
[01:01] <Scunizi> ubuntulog, sorry ment for someone else
[01:01] <bazhang> cheesypieces: you need to add extra repo
[01:01] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: ok, well, the error wont show up, but basically it was "ww Nvidia (0) - " followed by strings of numbers and letters
[01:02] <peter77>  I've managed to mess up alsa by trying a fix, is it possible to simply reinstall the previous version?
[01:02] <cheesypieces> bazhang: i've done that, i can now see more than i could, bu awn-extras isn't there
[01:02] <elmer> CorbinFox, OK, I reset X, but it is still screwy. Current xorg.conf: http://slexy.org/view/s2i9i58PwC
[01:03] <hyperstream> CorbinFox,  similar to: (WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (2, 6, 0x8000, 0x0000e74c, 0x0000e75c, 0)
[01:03] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: EXACTLY that
[01:03] <bazhang> cheesypieces: hmm; and awn extras is supposed to be in those repos? dont use awn myself so cant really tell you
[01:04] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, few others online have had same issue
[01:04] <Dr_willis> awn is in the hardy repos.
[01:04] <hyperstream> just looking into it now
[01:04] <daire> are x86_64 packages for me on 7.10 32bit
[01:04] <daire> ?
[01:04] <CorbinFox> elmer: then i am a confused fox...um, outside of maybe a full restart i dont know...sorry i may have just destroyed your comp :(
[01:04] <cheesypieces> bazhang: nps, i've downloaded the .tar for them now
[01:04] <kittykitty> i have a stupid question, i wrote a script to check my current ip againsted a stored ip, and if it changed it does stuff, where do i shove it so it gets ran by cron every 5 min?
[01:04] <daire> there is only x86_64 and i386
[01:04] <cheesypieces> any idea how i install from the .tar.gz tho?
[01:04] <elmer> CorbinFox, I will try a full restart. See you on the other side, mates!
[01:04] <Dr_willis> daire,  those are not the right packages for  386
[01:04] <theneb> Hi, How can I use a socks proxy with apt-get within bash?
[01:05] <bazhang> daire: the x86_64 are for 64bit; the others are for 32bit
[01:05] <Dr_willis> theneb,  i recall the apt manual/factoid mentioning an enviromental variable. or a config file for proxys
[01:05] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[01:05] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:05] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-February/113054.html
[01:05] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: the message happens every time it freezes so i certain they are related.  do you think updating drivers to newest may help? i dont know if ubuntu updates the vid card drivers too, especially the restricted drivers
[01:05] <hyperstream> have a look at that
[01:06] <daire> dr_willis bazhang: ty ty
[01:06] <hyperstream> CorbinFox,  it was being suggested to Downgrade, but this link i gave you suggests something about a AGP Lock
[01:06] <sarthor> hi, i have 4 GB of USB pen Drive, on 2 GB i have data, Can i use my usb drive like a bootable CD, for installation ubuntu gutsy server??
[01:07] <Amaranth> Pelin||Pelin: Can I help you?
[01:07] <sarthor> hi, i have 4 GB of USB pen Drive, on 2 GB i have data, Can i use the remaining of my usb drive like a bootable CD, for installation ubuntu gutsy server??
[01:07] <Dr_willis> sarthor,  ive heard its possible to install that way. But uve never done so.
[01:07] <Dr_willis> !install | sarthor
[01:07] <ubotu> sarthor: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:07] <bazhang> sarthor: you need to use the whole stick iirc
[01:07] <CorbinFox> hyperstream; well, considering this is a laptop i dont know how relevant that bit of advice can be...without voiding my warranty either way.  my XP partition experiences no problems at all with the video card, which i would assume is a sign that the card is physically installed properly
[01:08] <cheesypieces> guys, how do i install from a .tar.gz?
[01:08] <Dr_willis> !source | cheesypieces
[01:08] <ubotu> cheesypieces: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[01:08] <theneb> Dr_willis: it just has http_proxys, Looking for socks
[01:08] <sarthor> bazhang, you mean to say that i have shift all of my data to some other, and this will occupy all of my usb drive??
[01:09] <Dr_willis> hmm thats not the right url for cheesypieces ... lets see..
[01:09] <elmer> CorbinFox, Aha! The restart got my screen normal... now to get my Wacom working...
[01:09] <Dr_willis> cheesypieces,  in short, uncompress tha archive, ./configure, make, sudo make install..  assuming you got all the needed dependencies installed.
[01:09] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, just searching nv forums atm
[01:09] <cheesypieces> Dr_willis: i'm sorry, i have no idea what you mean
[01:09] <CorbinFox> elmer: that is how i got my wacom working...installling the wacom-tools and stuff, then editing xorg.  since we apparently can fix the problem :D lets try it again, eh? :P
[01:10] <elmer> Yes
[01:10] <elmer> Trying again, CorbinFox
[01:10] <kittykitty> How do i go about getting a script to run every 5 min or so?
[01:10] <opusdeux> test
[01:11] <Scunizi> CorbinFox, did you get the scroll wheel and buttons working on the tablet?  I've got a graphire 4 and only the scroll wheel works at this point.
[01:11] <elmer> CorbinFox, it went back to 800x600 >.<
[01:11] <elmer> I will fix it again
[01:12] <CorbinFox> Scunizi: actually the scroll wheel doesn't work for me, and i dont think the buttons work (or at least nothing is mapped to them yet) on the tablet itself.  the buttons on the stylus work fine tho
[01:12] <Bidget> ok, I have a few games installed in wine, now I'm wondering here... is it possible to have different profiles or something so that lets say for instance I load up steam it will change a few registry keys, but if I want to play eve it wont change them?
[01:12] <Dr_willis> cheesypieces,  You have quite a bit of learning to do then.   theres some beginnerg guides to 'installing from source'  on the net. You might want to track down a few. and knowing some bash basics will help also.
[01:12] <ek> Anyone know what files I need to edit in order to keep standard X (kdm/KDE) on TTY7 and have a different remote X session on TTY8 or TTY9?
[01:12] <ek> I'm not seeing an /etc/inittab file.
[01:12] <tkots199_> asdfghjkl;'
[01:12] <Dr_willis> ek,  ububntu dosent use inittab like other disrtos.
[01:12] <cheesypieces> Dr_willis: i'll look into it, thank you
[01:12] <Stroganoff> ek: /etc/gdm/xserver (something like that)
[01:13] <Ntemis> ctrl+alt + left mouse button worked
[01:13] <Stroganoff> (i dont use gdm)
[01:13] <Ntemis> for the cube
[01:13] <Dr_willis> Yea thats some gdm/kdm configs that can do that like Stroganoff  mentions.
[01:13] <Ntemis> but on upper side of cube and bottom i see a logo and not my desktop
[01:13] <ek> Dr_willis: Okay. I read about the /etc/event.d stuff a bit but it's much different and I'm not sure how to create the second X session without taking over on tty7.
[01:13] <ek> Stroganoff: Okay. I'll take a look.
[01:13] <boxybrown> im trying to enable https and when trying to generate a certificate I am getting -bash: apache2-ssl-certificate: command not found
[01:14] <Scunizi> CorbinFox, http://paste.stgraber.org/2456 for my xorg and comparrison to yours.
[01:14] <bazhang> Ntemis: look into cubecaps or somesuch in ccsm (perhaps skycaps forgot the exact name)
[01:14] <Dr_willis> ek,  you could spawn a 2nd X session from rc.local :) is one way.. (not a good way. but one way)
[01:14] <ek> Dr_willis: Lol. Yeah. I suppose so.
[01:14] <CorbinFox> scunizi: did you install wacom-tools and others?
[01:15] <ek> The problem is, I need to be able to bounce back and forth between them using CTRL+ALT+F7 and CTRL+ALT+F8 (or F9).
[01:15] <ek> That's the way all the other machines are set up. But, they're older thin clients.
[01:15] <Scunizi> CorbinFox, wacom-tools yes.. but tried to follow another how to and ended up with the scroll wheel working..
[01:16] <bluecake> hi
[01:16] <ek> Dr_willis: I'm able to get the remote X session started and everything... It just seems to override the default X session tty7. So, there isn't any switching ability.
[01:16] <ek> Just need to figure out how to get it onto another TTY I guess.
[01:16] <CorbinFox> scunizi: odd, i dont know if i can help with the other buttons
[01:16] <Scunizi> CorbinFox, maybe not.. but my xorg might help you with yours :)
[01:17] <CorbinFox> scunizi: i am examining it as we speak
[01:17] <Dr_willis> ek,  im not sure what exactly you are trying to do.
[01:17] <Bidget> can anyone tell me why one of my settings isnt working in wine?
[01:17] <Scunizi> drunk
[01:17] <ek> Dr_willis: Well, this machine is going to be a thick and a thin client at the same time.
[01:17] <ek> Dr_willis: So, I want Kubuntu to start as usually and begin with the GDM login.
[01:17] <elmer> OK, CorbinFox. I fixed it again, and this time I copied my xorg.conf to xorg.bak so it is easier to reload. Smart, ain't it?
[01:17] <Stroganoff> ek you have to add another Xserver to the GDM configuration
[01:17] <Falling-Inferno> How do i compile?
[01:17] <Bidget> can anyone tell me why one of my settings isnt working in wine?
[01:18] <CorbinFox> elmer: heh, yup
[01:18] <ek> But, I also want to be able to use CTRL+ALT+F9 to switch to another X session on a remote server.
[01:18] <elmer> CorbinFox, I am going to try this one last time: If it doesn't work, I will do something bad I guess :P.
[01:18] <Dr_willis> ek,  you mean a xdmcp session?
[01:18] <CorbinFox> elmer: make sure to hide the evidence before the cops show up is all :P
[01:18] <Bidget> can anyone tell me why one of my settings isnt working in wine?
[01:18] <ek> Dr_willis: Well, it's just a remote session by issuing an 'X -query wherever.com' kind of command.
[01:18] <Bidget> can anyone tell me why one of my settings isnt working in wine?
[01:19] <Falling-Inferno> How do i compile?
[01:19] <v3trae> Sorry, one other question, previously when i've used grub there has been a /boot/grub/grub.conf but i'm not finding that here, am i doing something wrong?
[01:19] <elmer> CorbinFox, Of course! I am a trained bad-thing-doer, after all.
[01:19] <ek> Dr_willis: That all works just fine. just on the wrong tty.
[01:19] <bazhang> Bidget: best bet is to try #winehq if you dont get an answer here speedily enough
[01:19] <Stroganoff> Falling-Inferno what do you want to compile?
[01:19] <Bidget> thanks bazhang
[01:19] <ek> Stroganoff: But, another server in the GDM configuration would mean they'd be able to only choose one session to begin, correct?
[01:19] <Dr_willis> ek,  X -query is xdmcp, i belive,, The gdm/kdm menu items have a entry to spawn a xdmcp remote session, theres no need to create a new one at boot time.
[01:20] <bazhang> Falling-Inferno: install build-essential
[01:20] <Dr_willis> ek,  not sure if thats enabled by default.. but ive done it that way befor.
[01:20] <Falling-Inferno> thanks
[01:20] <ek> Dr_willis: I will be able to run both at the same time?
[01:20] <Dr_willis> ek,  ive ran 3+ at the same time. :)
[01:20] <ek> Well, both local X session and remote?
[01:20] <ek> Ah. Okay.
[01:20] <v3trae> Does grub.conf have a different name/location in ubuntu?
[01:20] <Dr_willis> ek,  yes. You must enable xdmcp on the remote machines.
[01:20] <ek> Hrm.
[01:20] <Falling-Inferno> i am trying to compile some file that came in a .tar.gz file from adobe i need to get my flash working
[01:20] <ek> Not sure if that's do-able.
[01:20] <Dr_willis> ek,  this is a local lan?
[01:20] <ek> Dr_willis: No.
[01:20] <elmer> CorbinFox, should xorg.conf look like this (http://slexy.org/view/s2yOGQBkpl) or this (http://slexy.org/view/s2bHePyMUG)
[01:21] <Stroganoff> v3trae: /boot/grub/
[01:21] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, ek can't you run one x in one tty and another in a different.. or have I missed something in the conversation and I'm way off base?
[01:21] <brunner> ﻿﻿I need to co-locate a box that has a private key on it (part of a key pair).  ﻿what's the best way to protect the key in case the server is physically penetrated?
[01:21] <Dr_willis> ek,  you dont want to be using xdmcp over the internet, i belive.. best to use vnc, or freenx most likely then.
[01:21] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  hes wantint a whole new desktop on alt-ctrl-F8
[01:21] <v3trae> Stroganoff: That's what i thought, but i don't see a grub.conf in there. i'm assuming it's called something else but i dont really know where to look
[01:22] <Stroganoff> v3trae i assume its menu.lst
[01:22] <ek> Dr_willis: Well, it's not a typical LAN I guess. It's an IP block that we own. Requests to IPs that are assigned inside stay inside though.
[01:22] <ek> It works like a LAN. But, there are no standard internal IPs.
[01:22] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, that's what I was thinking.. someone mentioned back in Dapper days it was possible but it had to be different desktops like gnome and kde (if they were using the same /home)
[01:22] <Dr_willis> ek,  virtual private network or somthing? :) i dont mess with that complex stuff.. if you are using X -query now, Im pretty sure that is xdmcp.
[01:22] <ek> Dr_willis: Okay. I'll take your word for it.
[01:22] <CorbinFox> elmer: it hink the first one is it i think
[01:23] <elmer> CorbinFox, OK!
[01:23] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  used to be a issue back then. Not so much now a days. 2 sessions of gnome or kde. can cause a little confusion . but not as much.
[01:23] <ek> So, any pages online or anything I could take a peek at to help me get started with my GDM edit?
[01:23] <CorbinFox> elmer: does that configuraiton work?
[01:23] <ek> Or would I have to go about this another way?
[01:23] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, even with the same /home?
[01:23] <Dr_willis> ek,  google for 'ubuntu xdmcp enable'
[01:23] <ek> Dr_willis: Thanks.
[01:23] <elmer> CorbinFox, I am checking, brb
[01:23] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  yep.  not much of an issue these days.   used to be major issues.. Like logging out of one gnome session would log out of them ALL. :)
[01:23] <monkey89> im trying to get suspend to work consistently on my laptop.  when it fails, the back light comes on, but X never pops back.  caps lock on the internal keyboard does cause the light to toggle, and I can use alt-sysrq-b to reboot, but my usb keyboard has no effect.  when suspend works, the light comes on, turns off, and the ncomes on again.  does anyone have any ideas?
[01:24] <ronmexico> is anybody on heron with an ati card having trouble with 3d games
[01:24] <ronmexico> or know how to fix it?
[01:24] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, do you have to be different users when logging in? if not how do file locks work?
[01:24] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for hardy please
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  test it out. install vnc4server, run a vncsession thats running 'gnome-session' and find out. :)
[01:25] <Dr_willis> Scunizi,  if you ran it as a different user, it wouldent be any problems at all even in the old days.
[01:25] <ubuntu_> hey guys, it's dmsuperman
[01:25] <ubuntu_> i'm trying to reinstall grub
[01:25] <ubuntu_> but i get an error, device doesn't exist
[01:25] <ubuntu_> Error 12: Invalid device requested
[01:25] <Dr_willis> and how are you trying to reinstall...
[01:26] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis: live cd. sudo grub, then find /boot/grub/stage1
[01:26] <elmer> CorbinFox, GAH!! 800x600!!!
[01:26] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis: which returns hd1,5. Then I do "root (hd1,5)" then "setup (hd1)"
[01:26] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  i normally chroot into the installed system, befor doing the various update grub vommands.
[01:26] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis: what's chrooot/
[01:26] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  you are using  root (hd1,5) from bash? or the grub command line?
[01:26] <Scunizi> Dr_willis, didn't realize he was trying to do it remotely.. I was thinking of doing it at the machine itself at the same time.
[01:27] <ek> Dr_willis: Ah. Okay. That seems to work just fine.
[01:27] <ubuntu_> grub command line
[01:27] <ek> Dr_willis: However, how would I go about running that along side my local X session?
[01:27] <ek> Seems I need to choose one or the other.
[01:27] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  thers possible some steps you missed. check that fixgrub factoid page.
[01:27] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub
[01:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:28] <elmer> CorbinFox, trying the second xorg.conf I linked you...
[01:28] <Dr_willis> ek,  you can login once, then select the login as differetn user, menu item and it will go back to gdm/kdm and let you login again. if you got gdm/kdm set right
[01:28] <Aval0n> is there a command to have apt-get cleanup old files
[01:28] <Aval0n> besides -autoremove
[01:29] <Dr_willis> 'user switcher' applet item lets ya do it here . under gnome i notice.
[01:29] <acomaco> I\m running from a live cd..and my usb memory stick only got 494.8mb free while in windows it shows 1.6gb free?
[01:29] <travisat> Aval0n: what do you mean by clean up old files
[01:29] <elmer> CorbinFox, I am going to do something bad.
[01:29] <acomaco> i mean it shows 494.8 free in live cd..
[01:29] <Aval0n> well
[01:29] <Aval0n> I'm convinced that after my update-manager -d
[01:29] <Aval0n> that it didn't remove all the old stuff
[01:30] <Aval0n> looking at my HD usage
[01:30] <CorbinFox> elmer: try to find a scapegoat first if you can
[01:30] <Dr_willis> ek,  you can run into issues doing it this way. if you are using kdm, and log into the gnome desktop. It will expect gdm to be running. :(  so it wont work that way
[01:30] <ek> Dr_willis: Okie dokie. I see what you mean. Thanks.
[01:30] <Dr_willis> ek,  also visa-versa if using gdm, and running kde. you can have issues
[01:30] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis: When I try running setup (hd0) it says Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[01:30] <ek> Dr_willis: Well, it seems GDM is the default for Kubuntu?
[01:30] <travisat> Aval0n: do apt-get clean  apt saves old debs you need to clean it out occasionally
[01:30] <Aval0n> ok
[01:30] <Aval0n> thnx
[01:30] <StevenX> how come i can't delete my shortcut to my vista desktop? it says not same file system. what's the problem
[01:30] <ek> Dr_willis: Alrighty. I'll play with it and see what I can come up with. Thanks again.
[01:31] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  ive always chroot'ed into the isntalled the installed system after properly remounting /proc and /dev to the proper locations.
[01:31] <localadmin> hi, quick question:  my gf has 7.04 on her machine and wants to upgrade to 7.10 but upgrade manager doesn't show gutsy available because she had initially said to ignore the upgrade.  how do we get the upgrade to go?
[01:31] <localadmin> tia
[01:31] <ubuntu_> Dr_willis: how do i do that?
[01:32] <travisat> localadmin: edit /etc/apt/sources.list change all feisty to gutsy,  then do apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:32] <travisat> localadmin: edit /etc/apt/sources.list change all feisty to gutsy,  then do apt-get update  and apt-get dist-upgrade I mean
[01:32] <CorbinFox> ok, well, since my client doesn't seem to carry the logs that far back i am ashamed to ask this again...how to kill xorg and work with terminal only?
[01:32] <Pelo> localadmin, if ou have the 7.10 cd handy it will make things quicker
[01:33] <localadmin> sounds scary.  what if we mess it up?  isn't there an better then editing the sources file?
[01:33] <habernet> how do i uninstall amarok through terminal?
[01:33] <Pelo> localadmin,  do not folow travisat 's advice
[01:33] <Pelo> !upgrade > localadmin  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[01:33] <ubuntu_> habernet: sudo apt-get remove amarok
[01:33] <acomaco> hmm..
[01:33] <acomaco> Anyone?
[01:33] <bazhang> I was going to suggest same as travisat
[01:33] <ubuntu_> !patience | acomaco
[01:34] <ubotu> acomaco: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:34] <travisat> !upgrade
[01:34] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:34] <acomaco> Sorry :)
[01:34] <Pelo> acomaco, anyone what ?
[01:34] <ubuntu_> Pelo
[01:34] <StevenX> how come i can't delete my shortcut to my vista desktop? it says not same file system. what's the problem
[01:34] <Pelo> ubuntu_,  ?
[01:34] <ubuntu_> how can i privmsg you in irssi?
[01:34] <ubuntu_> do you know?
[01:34] <acomaco> Pelo, Ubuntu live CD only detects 494.8mb free, when its 1.8gb..
[01:34] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  i normally follow the  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-9e881d9c5bd9a6de1c9b91c4ad388cdd131d0cea    The info below 'Preparing Your Working Environment'  is about what i normally do.
[01:34] <Pelo> StevenX, open a terminal and sudo rm it
 I\m running from a live cd..and my usb memory stick only got 494.8mb free while in windows it shows 1.6gb free?
[01:35] <StevenX> pelo, thank you.
[01:35] <StevenX> pelo, how do i create a shortcut again?
[01:35] <Pelo> acomaco, live cd uses part of your memory to make a virtual drive to run on
[01:35] <Daren92> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[01:35] <NickDngr> i don't know if i like the nvidia driver or not :\
[01:35] <bazhang> Daren92: wrong channel
[01:35] <Pelo> StevenX, ln -s  /source /destination
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> whoops
[01:35] <StevenX> thank you.
[01:36] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  after the 'chroot' command in that guide, i can then  run 'update-grub' or any other grub related commands.  Or install packages, and so forth.
[01:36] <boxybrown> can anyone help with "apache2: Syntax error on line 298 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/secure: No such file or directory"
[01:36] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  and yes that guide is a bit confusing because it details like 20 DIFFERENT Ways to do about the same thing.
[01:37] <boxybrown> the directory does infact exist ls /etc/apache2/site-enabled/secure lists all kinds of files
[01:37] <NickDngr> switching from the opengl drivers to the nvidia drivers, did anyone else feel like their system was...less responsive?
[01:37] <travisat> NickDngr: not here
[01:37] <NickDngr> it doesn't feel as...quick
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[01:38] <LjL> ugh
[01:39] <elmer> CorbinFox, I have done something bad. I gave up on getting my Wacom to work. So let it be known throughout the land, and pray that I do not get banned.
[01:39] <ek> Dr_willis: I think I may go the rc.local route actually. A simple 'xinit -- /usr/bin/X -query IP.HE.RE -ac :1 vt8' seems to do the trick exactly.
[01:40] <ek> Dr_willis: Until I figure out better way, this should work fine.
[01:40] <ek> Again, thanks for all your help.
[01:40] <Dr_willis> ek,  yep.   been ther, done that also.
[01:40] <ek> Dr_willis: :P Trials and tribs!
[01:40] <Dr_willis> ek,  you are querying the xdmcp server on machine ip.#
[01:40] <ek> Dr_willis: yes.
[01:40] <acomaco> Pelo, i tried it on two diffrent computers, with diffrent amount of ram, showing the exact same values..
[01:41] <ek> Just need it to bind to TTY8 and do it at boot is all.
[01:41] <ek> Anyhow, I get to go home now. So, see you all later! :P
[01:41] <lwizardl> anyone here use DC++
[01:41] <Pelo> acomaco, I don'T know , maybe the live cd just leaves that much ram untouched and uses the rest for a virtual hdd
[01:42] <acomaco> Pelo, okey thanks anyway :d
[01:43] <LjL> Dave2, ^
[01:44] <pressureman> i'm trying to learn how to use PPA, and have read the docs, but there's something still not clear.
[01:44] <pressureman> i just want to compile postgresql-8.3.1 for gutsy, and add it to my PPA
[01:45] <pressureman> i see that the sources have already been backported to gutsy, but there are no binary debs yet
[01:45] <allquixotic_> is there any way to see system users in GNOME Users and Groups?
[01:45] <Oddar> anyone?
[01:45] <bazhang> Oddar: we need a question
[01:47] <pressureman> is PPA basically a build-bot? or will i have to build the package on my system locally?
[01:51] <CorbinFox> i am trying to change my nvidia drivers from nvidia-glx-new to nvidia-glx-legacy, but i dont know if there is anything special i need to do.  Can I just mark legacy for installation and mark new for uninstallation?
[01:52] <CorbinFox> im thinking that will break something...
[01:56] <ahave_> When configuring SAMBA... after i make changes to smb.conf, would a samba reload set those changes?
[01:56] <acomaco> hmm..
[01:57] <acomaco> i got it installed now but still it only detects 494 :S
[01:57] <wigren> corbinfox: i cant give you any worthy advice but to say that i did that on my desktop and when i rebooted i only had 800X600 res. I wouldnt unless you have to
[01:59] <Shpook> Has any ever heard of Guitar Pro for Windows? If so, does anyone know a program for linux similar to that?
[01:59] <Shpook> Guitar Pro is a program to compose music using tablature and MIDI, if it helps
[02:01] <ahave_> how can i restart the samba client?
[02:01] <Shpook> Wow...it's usually so busy in here...
[02:02] <Shpook> Run  /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart at the command line.
[02:02] <Shpook> I think...
[02:02] <CorbinFox> If i wanted to downgrade my nvidia driver from nvidia-glx-new to nvidia-glx-legacy how would i go about that? just iinstall the legacy package and uninstal the new package?  that sounds wrong, but i dont know how to
[02:02] <hyperstream> CorbinFox,  try: apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new
[02:02] <travisat> Shpook: I know of several midi composers for linux search for jack apps or midi apps, a quick apt search found kguitar
[02:03] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:03] <hyperstream> is the old one i believe
[02:03] <mseney> running openbsd 4.2 and the latest version 4.3 only has firefox 2.0.0.13..would i be safer using ubuntu which has a new version of firefox?
[02:03] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: okay, i'll try that
[02:03] <mseney> correction: only has 2.0.0.12
[02:03] <ahave_> Shpook, thanks. That did restart samba
[02:04] <chuck> travisat: ?
[02:04] <Shpook> travisat: I forgot about JACK, kguitar only play Guitar Pro files.
[02:04] <ahave_> Shpook, i still can not get my samba share to change workgroups correctly
[02:05] <hyperstream> travisat,  is there anything for along the lines of Fruity Loops ?
[02:05] <Shpook> ahave_:  did you change the workgroup in smb.conf?
[02:05] <ahave_> sphook, yes
[02:05] <Shpook> hyperstream: Even something like that would be perfect.
[02:06] <hyperstream> about a year ago
[02:06] <hyperstream> i had ubuntu going- there is one that is basicly a clone of FL
[02:06] <hyperstream> let me look it up
[02:06] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: okay, did that.  now i guess i just restart and it should be set?
[02:06] <travisat> hyperstream: I don't know much about windows based stuff,  I like rosegarden
[02:06] <ahave_> shpook, and the smbclient output even reflects some of those changes that i made... but for some reason it continues to show my workgroup as the old
[02:06] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, yep- GL
[02:07] <Stroganoff> hyperstream: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/lmms
[02:07] <ColdBeer> hey how do i change the ubuntu ssh banner?
[02:07] <Shpook> ahave_: did you disable the old workgroup on the windows machine?
[02:07] <hyperstream> Shpook, LMMS - Linux MultiMedia Studio
[02:07] <hyperstream> thanks Stroganoff
[02:07] <Shpook> ahave_: IF you're using a windows box to network
[02:07] <ColdBeer> how do i change the ssh banner Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by
[02:07] <ColdBeer> applicable law.
[02:07] <ahave_> Shpook, i am using a windows box to check.. how do i disable?
[02:08] <Shpook> hyperstream: Dude, you rock my world.
[02:08] <hyperstream> its not to bad
[02:09] <Shdw|Laptop> Does anyone know how to run two different monitors at a different resolution?
[02:09] <travisat> hyperstream: that looks interesting
[02:09] <Shpook> ahave_: I don't quite remember on Windows, but I think you have to disable the whole network on the windows box, then create a new one. after that setup samba, and restart samba. that's how I got mine working.
[02:09] <Shpook> hyperstream: At least it's something. I just need to be able to write music.
[02:09] <hyperstream> it is
[02:10] <hyperstream> travisat,  look up fruityloops now that is a pretty WELL DONE application for writing music
[02:10] <rencore_> what is a good partition editor for ubuntu so that i may make a new partition to install another os on
[02:10] <hyperstream> LMMS is basicly as close to it as i know withing the linux world
[02:10] <Shpook> And it supports VSTi plugins...yay/
[02:10] <Shdw|Laptop> rencore_: gparted
[02:10] <hyperstream> step by step sequinzier (spelling)
[02:10] <rencore_> Shdw|Laptop, i try it but it just keeps saying scanning all devices
[02:11] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: well, my system hasn't exploded so im thinking it is okay
[02:11] <Shpook> rencore_:  try gparted
[02:11] <Zackymc_k> is there an app for using a 5 button mouse and changing the 4&5 button and there function
[02:11] <Shpook> rencore_: Oops, I was too late.
[02:11] <Shdw|Laptop> How long did you let it sit?
[02:11] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, Gratz! :)
[02:11] <Stroganoff> ColdBeer: /etc/motd
[02:11] <rencore_> Shdw|Laptop, a couple minutes
[02:11] <Stroganoff> ColdBeer: /etc/issue
[02:11] <CorbinFox> now i must jsut wait a bit to see if the bug sticks, and if not, then I shall put you on my list of people to make high officials in my new world order.  thanks!
[02:12] <hyperstream>  rotf- thanks :D
[02:12] <travisat> hyperstream: well the one thing I really like about linux and jack is that I can use a bunch of seperate programs and have their output routed around,  so I can use a seperate synth to a seq editor and a seperate drum machine routed to the same seq and so one
[02:12] <Shpook> Zackymc_k: I think you can do it through xorg.conf
[02:12] <ColdBeer> thanks
[02:12] <localadmin> okay, just rejoining the conv.. thx to people who responded already.    I already followed the link from ubotu (it came up googling) and I could not figure out what to do.  the ubuntu documentation online says to run update manager and that's it.   however, the upgrade to Feisty page does say you can blow away your .update-manager folder and try again to remedy this.  I think this may be the better solution
[02:12] <hyperstream> travisat,  that actually sounds pretty hot
[02:12] <ColdBeer> ok so i setup ssh, how do i restrict users to their home dir, when they sftp into my box?
[02:12] <Shpook> Zackymc_k: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316441 See if that helps.
[02:13] <ColdBeer> Straganoff - thanks
[02:13] <rencore_> Shdw|Laptop, i started it again when you mentioned it and it is still going
[02:14] <ColdBeer> has anyone seens a weather app that will display the 5 day forcast for Gnome?
[02:14] <Shdw|Laptop> rencore_, I'm not sure what to say... It has always just worked for me after letting it sit for a while.
[02:14] <Shpook> ColdBeer: I knew of one, but I think it was a widget. I just use iGoogle with weather forecast.
[02:15] <rencore_> Shdw|Laptop, it finished thanks
[02:15] <hyperstream> omg- whats the terminal command to view active cpu useage
[02:15] <sveakex> hey, can anybody help me with my laptop? when i connect a speaker or a headphone to it, the internal speakers don't turn off
[02:15] <hyperstream> topcpu or something
[02:15] <hyperstream> nvm its top
[02:15] <travisat> top?
[02:15] <sveakex> hyperstream: htop is better :p
[02:15] <Shpook> top
[02:16] <niuq> hi, i have this error when i try to boot from ubuntu cd live : ACPI: unable to load the system description tables
[02:16] <rencore_> Shdw|Laptop, how can i resize my harddrive the icons are all locked off
[02:16] <niuq> and it says: kernel  panic - no syncing: no init found
[02:16] <hsuh> do i still have to do manual configuration to setup bitlbee on ubuntu gutsy?
[02:17] <hyperstream> sveakex, so it is
[02:17] <sveakex> hyperstream: much easier to use and it is a real power tool :p
[02:17] <hyperstream> your not wrong lol
[02:17] <sveakex> :)
[02:18] <Shpook> "Warning: 'with' will become a reserved keyword in Python 2.6" Hmm...gonna have to look that up.
[02:18] <ASSASSIN> hey guys
[02:19] <ASSASSIN> anyone willing to help me out with something?
[02:19] <gogeta> ope
[02:19] <gogeta> lol
[02:19] <Shdw|Laptop> What do you need?
[02:19] <sveakex> hey, can anybody help me with my laptop? when i connect a speaker or a headphone to it, the internal speakers don't turn off :(
[02:19] <dmsuperman> Pelo, I got it with supergrub, thanks a ton :D
[02:19] <ASSASSIN> i just installed Ubuntu and i was trying to configure my ATI drivers
[02:19] <gogeta>  sveakex mute em yourself?
[02:19] <dmsuperman> Pelo, supergrub was able to detect my harddrive as it should
[02:19] <dmsuperman> ASSASSIN, good luck
[02:20] <ASSASSIN> and for some reason my xorg.conf got cleared fully
[02:20] <jsoftw> my sound is not playing. Seems something or another has used it and not released it or something. Any ideas how to just make it work?
[02:20] <jsoftw> And why only one thing seems to be able to play in the first place?
[02:20] <jkarns> whatup
[02:20] <sveakex> gogeta: then my headphones get muted aswell
[02:20] <Shpook> !ATI
[02:20] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:20] <gogeta>  sveakex somelaptops the speaker and headphones are indenpendint sound configs
[02:20] <oal753> hello?
[02:20] <Shpook> ASSASSIN: try that link first things first
[02:21] <oal753> i have a question
[02:21] <sveakex> gogeta: so which one should i mute?
[02:21] <gogeta>  sveakex diffrent volum controle for eatch
[02:21] <ASSASSIN> ok will do
[02:21] <gogeta>  sveakex well if you have a headset volum controle
[02:21] <gogeta>  sveakex must anything but that
[02:21] <oal753> everytime i try to login my screen goes black then it brings me back to the login screen
[02:21] <gogeta>  sveakex mute
[02:21] <oal753> wtf
[02:22] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: i see no issues yet and nothing in the log.  unless this is a horrible, horrible joke by God i think the problem is fixed :D
[02:22] <oal753> does anyone know what to do??
[02:22] <oal753> about that??
[02:22] <gogeta>  sveakex that should give you the effect your looking for
[02:22] <harveyd> ok, just installed hardy heron twice from 2 different cd's from 2 different downloads
[02:23] <hooh> oal753, ?
[02:23] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, yay :)
[02:23] <ahave> how can i add users to SAMBA so that a windows box when trying to connect will be prompted with a username/pswrd login screen?
[02:23] <oal753> yea
[02:23] <harveyd> neither time I can log in with a standard session, I need to choose "gnome failsafe" to login
[02:23] <oal753> same here!!!!
[02:23] <sveakex> gogeta: just got pcm, front and 2 mikes what i can playback from
[02:23]  * CorbinFox puts hyperstream on list of people to appoint to high status in new world order
[02:23] <oal753> harveyd i have the same problem
[02:23] <hyperstream> lol
[02:23] <harveyd> oal753: really, did you get it fixed?
[02:23] <gogeta> sveakex: i beleve front would be the headset
[02:23] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: thank you kindly, you just made my only gripe with my system fixed
[02:24] <oal753> no i had to login the "gnome failsafe" way'
[02:24] <gogeta> sveakex: 2 mics?
[02:24] <Raditz> how do i move a file into a dir that is owned by root when there was no root password set up?
[02:24] <jsoftw> How to make my sound work.
[02:24] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, no worries, just reinstalled ubuntu since the last year or so, went on a wow gaming frenzy
[02:24] <oal753> ive been trying to figure it out
[02:24] <dmsuperman> !dualboot
[02:24] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:24] <Flannel> !sudo | Raditz
[02:24] <ubotu> Raditz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[02:24] <jsoftw> It was working sweet, then something stopped it from working (ie, while the box was running). Seems /dev/dsp is in use.
[02:24] <sveakex> gogeta: internal and external, but muting front seems to work
[02:24] <gogeta> sveakex: acully front would be the speakers
[02:25] <gogeta> sveakex: pcm would be the card itsself
[02:25] <Zackymc_k> ok that is very confusing is there a app for this
[02:25] <harveyd> oal753: well I was kinda hoping to not have to do that forever :P
[02:25] <gogeta> sveakex: well ok then
[02:25] <gogeta> :)
[02:25] <oal753> haha yea me neither
[02:25] <oal753> but it works the same?
[02:25] <sveakex> gogeta: odd i didn't notice that before, i mean, i have had that laptop for 13 months
[02:25] <gogeta> heh
[02:25] <harveyd> well it doesnt run startup scripts
[02:25] <sveakex> gogeta: x)
[02:25] <jsoftw> *sigh*
[02:25] <jsoftw> Fucking ubuntu.
[02:25] <harveyd> so im guessing apache / server will need to be launched manually
[02:26] <oal753> hm
[02:26] <harveyd> plus everything you usually put in bashrc
[02:26] <sveakex> gogeta: btw, does ubuntu have something like init scripts like gentoo or rc.d daemons like arch? like for example how could i start an apache server on boot?
[02:26] <oal753> i want to fix it though
[02:26] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: well, it just happened again....
[02:26] <oal753> its annoying
[02:26]  * CorbinFox sadly removes hyperstream's name from list
[02:26] <ASSASSIN> Well I tried the link i have version 7.10 so i tried it and it said your hardware does not need restricted drivers
[02:26] <sveakex> gogeta: since my friend is running ubuntu on his server/desktop, it would be interesting to know
[02:26] <Daisuke_Ido> what was mistercursingman's issue?
[02:26] <hyperstream> what are you doing exactly when it occurs?
[02:26] <gogeta> sveakex: you just add it to rc.d
[02:26] <fsmw> hello, i'm trying to install an hardy-alternate iso from a usb memory in my laptop, i don' have a cdrom drive, and installer ask me for one to mount it, does anybody knows how to avoid this?
[02:26] <Tanha> there is something problem with my grub. whenever i restart my ubuntu every single time i have to edit correct partition.. where i can found the grub conf file to make changes permenantly
[02:27] <gogeta> sveakex: i forget the command someone hear will tell ya
[02:27] <bazhang> his sound Daisuke_Ido
[02:27] <dmsuperman> jsoftw, precisely the thing to say in a channel called #ubuntu
[02:27] <Flannel> fsmw: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[02:27] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: well thats the thing, it seems to just happen whenever.  tho i seem to notice it mostly when firefox is running.  i dont know if the error happens when firefox isn't running (perhaps that is the next step)
[02:27] <gogeta> hey whats the rd.d ad commmand guys
[02:27] <gogeta> add
[02:27] <hyperstream> CorbinFox,  try opera or something trail and error
[02:28] <hyperstream> could be a firefox issue perhaps
[02:28] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: i have tried removing all the extensions but that didnt help, but oddly enough foxy Tunes just destroys firefox (it would freeze every few seconds)
[02:28] <CorbinFox> well the thing is it isn't just firefox freezing...the entire desktop freezes save for the cursor
[02:28] <Flannel> !bum | gogeta
[02:28] <ubotu> gogeta: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:28] <sveakex> gogeta ubotu: thanks!
[02:29] <ASSASSIN> shpook u have any idead?
[02:29] <Shdw|Laptop> does anyone have experience with dual monitors here?
[02:29] <dmsuperman> I've got Ubuntu and Windows installed, with grub. All I need now is to edit my menu.lst to boot windows, but I'm not sure what to add. Does there happen to be a factoid about it? Or does anybody know?
[02:29] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: although in this case it happened when i was playing a flash video from arstechnica....perhaps it is related to flash or something?  could have just been a coicidence
[02:29] <Shdw|Laptop> dmsuperman, windows wasn't added automatically to grub?
[02:29] <hyperstream> CorbinFox,  replay it :D
[02:29] <Tanha> hai guys have some problem with GRUB. whenever i restart my linux have to edit partition manually and identify the linux kernel in which partition.. so is there anyhow i can make changes permenant?
[02:30] <dmsuperman> Shdw|Laptop, no, I had to use supergrub to install grub again because normal grub wasn't working properly
[02:30] <CorbinFox> shall do
[02:30] <nickrud> dmsuperman what partition is your windows install on?
[02:30] <dmsuperman> first disk, first primary partition
[02:30] <free1> sorry for the noob question, but where can I find the crash dumps on my system?
[02:30] <nickrud> dmsuperman a sec, I'll give you a stanza
[02:30] <dmsuperman> thanks :D
[02:30] <nickrud> free1 /var/crash
[02:31] <free1> nickrud: thanks
[02:31] <ASSASSIN> Well I tried the link i have version 7.10 so i tried it and it said your hardware does not need restricted drivers
[02:31] <gogeta> sveakex i have a pc with a 5 pice so i figured outn that trick on sounmdcards lol kinda hard to runng a window brakers at night
[02:31] <dmsuperman> nickrud, it's located at /dev/sdb1 if that changes anything
[02:31] <sveakex> gogeta: :P
[02:31] <gogeta> sveakex so i switch out to headsets
[02:32] <Tanha> !grub Tanha
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub tanha - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <nickrud> dmsuperman yes, it does, that's not the first disk first partition :) Where's linux?
[02:32] <sveakex> gogeta: hehe, btw, do you have experience upgrading ubuntu?
[02:32] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: well, it hasn't happened yet, and im farther through the video than before...arstechnica's vid servers must be slow XD
[02:32] <Shdw|Laptop> !grub | Tanha
[02:32] <ubotu> Tanha: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:32] <sveakex> like from 7.10 to 8.04
[02:32] <gogeta> sveakex some
[02:33] <sveakex> gogeta: does it generally work well?
[02:33] <gogeta> sveakex lol no
[02:33] <ASSASSIN> sdadsa
[02:33] <gogeta> sveakex not a dist upgrade anyways
[02:33] <jaym> anyone have the apt source for latest openoffice?
[02:33] <sveakex> gogeta: hm, maybe a reinstall is better, or to change to a distribution with a rolling release
[02:33] <dmsuperman> nickrud, hd0,5
[02:33] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: i am not entirely sure it is firefox tho...it could be amarok (i have it running ALWAYS, pulsradio ftw) and often have Azureus running too (seeding ubuntu :D )
[02:33] <bazhang> sveakex: the upgrade works fine
[02:33] <gogeta> sveakex they do that for the betas
[02:33] <ColdBeer> whats igoogle
[02:34] <dmsuperman> nickrud, /dev/sdb2
[02:34] <gogeta> sveakex but i tryed it the text way i hear using there command works better
[02:34] <sveakex> bazhang: any possibility to update now to the beta?
[02:34] <gogeta> sveakex worst case you reformat anyways
[02:34] <dmsuperman> nickrud, I know it doesn't make sense, but just pretend it does. My SATA drives are reversed :P
[02:34] <CorbinFox> on second thought i doubt it is either, since i remember the issue happening when im not running them
[02:34] <sveakex> gogeta: i always use the terminal :)
[02:34] <sveakex> ;) *
[02:34] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, prolly a good time to trail and error by disabling apps
[02:34] <bazhang> sveakex: sure; meet me in #ubuntu+1
[02:34] <ColdBeer> has anyone ever setup smtp auth?
[02:34] <gogeta> sveakex i hear gui = better for a dist upgrade
[02:34] <sveakex> bazhang: aight
[02:34] <Tanha> !oracle
[02:34] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[02:34] <sveakex> gogeta: i don't know :s
[02:34] <dmsuperman> nickrud, /dev/sdb2 is my linux, /dev/sdb1 is my windows, and according to menu.lst it's hd0,5 to boot ubuntu
[02:35] <gogeta> sveakex some nedded scripts dont get ran using just apt
[02:35] <bazhang> gogeta: makes no difference
[02:35] <gogeta> sveakex at least any upgrade in the past i did
[02:35] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: and how would I do that? just go into system monitor and kill random things? that sounds dangerous.
[02:35] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, or starting from no apps- and open one by one with a time limit to test see which app it is, or if it isnt an app regardless of open or not open apps,
[02:35] <nickrud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7067/ dmsuperman
[02:35] <sveakex> gogeta: ok
[02:35] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, even removing glx and reinstalling glx-new and trying it
[02:35] <Daisuke_Ido> cute, looks like i'm going without the fun extra applets in awn until they get it sorted out
[02:35] <dmsuperman> nickrud, thanks :d
[02:35] <hyperstream> CorbinFox, just additional applications that you have open
[02:36] <dmsuperman> nickrud, what's the map do?
[02:36] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: i was considering just reinstalling the system anyways...i remember what happened started at random one day (at least i hadn't caught the issue before then). dont know what i would have installed either way
[02:36] <gogeta> sveakex if you plain on keeping linux that long on a system a /home partation works gear
[02:36] <dmsuperman> nickrud, and makeactive? does that mean it'll be selected by default?
[02:36] <ahave> how can i configure SAMBA so that it prompts for a username login when trying to acces from a windows box?
[02:36] <gogeta> sveakex you can reformat /the root and not lose anything in home
[02:36] <sveakex> gogeta: yeah, but i am too lazy to have that on teh family laptop, i have that on my main gentoo box
[02:37] <sveakex> the*
[02:37] <nickrud> dmsuperman a sec phone
[02:37] <gogeta> sveakex lol so it just has a root
[02:37] <dmsuperman> nickrud, no worries
[02:37] <sveakex> gogeta: yeah, my gentoo has a 20GB / and a 50 or 40gb windowsxp, and the rest goes to /home
[02:38] <free1> question on the crash dump files, how does one save them to be sent off
[02:38] <free1> ?
[02:38] <Tanha> howto install wireless card driver and i didn't find driver for belkin54g so is there anyway to install driver on ubuntu?
[02:38] <free1> I notice that trying to save them as txt files makes it seem encrypted
[02:39] <bazhang> Tanha: what is the chipset on that--is it pci internal, usb dongle, or pcmcia
[02:39] <Shdw|Laptop> Tanha, you can use ndiswrapper
[02:39] <gogeta> sveakex for a dule system you dont realy need home
[02:39] <free1> what is the best way to view a file of x-apport type?
[02:39] <gogeta> sveakex you can dump it onto the windows half anything personal
[02:39] <gogeta> sveakex when reformating
[02:39] <Tanha> !ndiswrapper
[02:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:39] <Tanha> thanks
[02:40] <free1> mrec: the reason I ask is because the file is of x-apport type and some of the contents appear 'encrypted'
[02:41] <sveakex> gogeta: well my ubuntu laptop doesnät :P
[02:41] <ASSASSIN> anyone got any idea how to fix this driver problem?
[02:42] <nickrud> dmsuperman back. Lost my wallet, that was the bank. That stanza is the standard for booting on a second drive, but the hd0,5 for linux says it might not be quite right. Add that to the very end of menu.lst . If it doesn't boot, remove the two map lines and try hd0,0
[02:42] <JyZyXEL> lol whats that cube where you can display workspaces?
[02:42] <mark[oz]> hey guys is there any sort of network bandwidth logger in ubuntu?
[02:42] <gogeta> sveakex well for a totaly upgrade iv seen it screw up but work fine the next time
[02:42] <Dr_willis> !cube | JyZyXEL
[02:42] <ubotu> JyZyXEL: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[02:42] <mark[oz]> so I can see what apps are using what network resources, and cap them, etc
[02:42] <dmsuperman> nickrud, does "setdefault" mean it'll be selected by default? if so, can i just remove it? (i want ubuntu default)
[02:43] <nickrud> dmsuperman no, that's nothing to do with choosing the default boot os
[02:43] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: perhaps i can just try out the Live CD wtihout installing and see if the issue is in there too?
[02:43] <dmsuperman> what does it do then?
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Now is a good time to check the grub manuals :)
[02:43] <Tanha> i forget my root passwd is there anyhow i can retrive it back?
[02:43] <gogeta> dmsuperman to change the defult you just change the slection number
[02:43] <sveakex> gogeta: mm
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Tanha,  You mean your initial users password?
[02:43] <dmsuperman> gogeta, thanks :d
[02:44] <hyperstream> CorbinFox,  guess so
[02:44] <Tanha> Dr_willis : ye
[02:44] <max_> I'd really like to convert some of the office users to Ubuntu.  How do we connect to the active Domain, Windows 2003 server domain controller?
[02:44] <nickrud> dmsuperman sorry, it does. brainfart. But only if the default entry at the beginning is default=savedefault
[02:45] <nickrud> dmsuperman so, unless you change the default 0 to default savedefault to be clear
[02:45] <dmsuperman> nickrud, cool. thanks for your help :D
[02:45] <gogeta> dmsuperman its a 0123 format
[02:45] <dmsuperman> yeah
[02:45] <max_> At login, we need to use our network login to log on.  How do we do this ?   I tried adding the domain to Networking, but it just doesn't work like how it does in windoze
[02:45] <Dr_willis> Tanha,  the first users password, and 'sudo' password are not the same as the  root uders password.  - Ive booted the live cd, and chrooted to the installed system and reset passwords befor with 'passwd USERNAME' in the past.
[02:46] <nickrud> dmsuperman again memory fails. I looked it up, the correct would be    default saved , that way it will default to the last chosen os.
[02:46] <Tanha> alright man
[02:46] <Tanha> thanks
[02:46] <h2os> tying to mount ramdisk after mkfs.ext2, get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/ram0 any suggestions?
[02:46] <hooh> h2os, doing what
[02:47] <gogeta> Dr_willis when youforget a password you type in everything you make any changes to the system
[02:47] <gogeta> Dr_willis your in a bad way
[02:47] <h2os> hooh, when i try to mount the ramdisk
[02:47] <Shdw|Laptop> does anyone know how to do a dual head configuration on an ATI card for two monitors with different resolutions?
[02:47] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  yep.
[02:47] <h2os> hooh, i get that error
[02:47] <gogeta> Dr_willis everyday lol
[02:47] <hooh> h2os, how do mount a ramdisk
[02:48] <gavi> folks my titlebar disapeared and i cannot move windows arround. any suggestions on how to fix this?
[02:48] <h2os> sudo mount /dev/ram0 /mnt/tmp
[02:48] <ahave> could someone explain to me the difference between a domain and a workgroup? I am trying to setup SAMBA
[02:48] <bazhang> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead this may help Shdw|Laptop
[02:49] <meowlud2> Hi all :)
[02:49] <meowlud2> How do i know what video drivers I have installed? I need to install  openGL - is there any easy way to do this using terminal?
[02:49] <gogeta> Dr_willis
[02:49] <gogeta> meowlud2 yep
[02:49] <hooh> !info hardwareinfo
[02:49] <ubotu> Package hardwareinfo does not exist in gutsy
[02:49] <hooh> !info hwinfo
[02:49] <ubotu> hwinfo (source: hwinfo): Hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 13.35-1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 108 kB
[02:49] <meowlud2> awesome!
[02:49] <max_> Does anyone know how to connect to a Windows domain ?
[02:50] <meowlud2> is it sudo get-app opengl?
[02:50] <gogeta> ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[02:50] <gogeta> sudo apt-getinstall ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:50] <hooh> meowlud2, sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[02:50] <meowlud2> how do i install the restroced extars?
[02:50] <gogeta> a space befor install
[02:50] <gogeta> lol
[02:50] <h2os> max_, you should check out sambahowto docs, have good examples http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/
[02:51] <meowlud2> thanks people! may the day be toasty and crunchy for all of you!
[02:52] <millertime_018> is there any way there is to speed up a torrent download?
[02:52] <max_> h2os : Been there, basically talks a lot about how to access shared files, not network logins... but im noob so I guess i'll just keep reading, if nobody here has ever done it
[02:52] <hyperstream> send more
[02:52] <kittykitty> h20s i just mke2fs /dev/ram0, then mount /dev/ram0 /mnt/ramdisk .. and it worked fine, are you doing something else?
[02:52] <max_> Seems like if we want to make Ubuntu more mainstream, we'd make it a little more Windows network compatible out-of-box
[02:52] <pushpop-> how do you install fonts in ubuntu?
[02:53] <hooh> !fonts | pushpop-
[02:53] <ubotu> pushpop-: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:53] <h2os> max_, do it, thats where i started, need to now some basics about you ad doamin, if it running in mixed mode or full AD
[02:53] <h2os> max_, do it = did it
[02:53] <max_> full AD
[02:54] <cellofellow> I'm having trouble forwarding ports with ssh. It seems to want to bind the ports for listening on the remote side, but all I want to do is open a client connection. Specifically I want to access Apache on the server using SSH tunnel.
[02:54] <h2os> basic smb.conf, where security = ads
[02:54] <kittykitty> cellefello which ssh client you using?
[02:54] <cellofellow> kittykitty: ssh
[02:54]  * kittykitty <3 putty
[02:54] <max_> h2os : I was dreaming of a magical checkbox "Click here if you are logging into a Windows NT server"    =)
[02:55] <cellofellow> kittykitty: ok, how do I do that then?
[02:55] <millertime_018> hey does anyone know how to speed up a torrent download?
[02:55] <millertime_018> i have like a 3 gig file coming in at like 10 kb/s
[02:55] <millertime_018> ?!
[02:55] <cellofellow> millertime_018: find faster seeds
[02:55] <Pelo> millertime_018, reduce your upload speed a bit
[02:55] <Tanha> !fstab
[02:55] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:55] <kittykitty> i use putty on my windows boxes to axs this box, and it has a really simple gui interface for setting up tunnels
[02:55] <bazhang> millertime_018: not really the channel for that; try a different client perhaps other than azureus
[02:55] <cellofellow> millertime_018: depends on your ISP, but encryption might help.
[02:56] <cellofellow> kittykitty: yes, soft of simple, I couldn't figure it out unfortunately.
[02:56] <millertime_018> thanx guys!
[02:56] <kittykitty> have you tried putty before?
[02:56] <h2os> max_, thats funny, we are talking samba right? maybe ubuntu includes basic smbclient tool, but depends on what you are trying to do
[02:56] <cellofellow> kittykitty: only for basic stuff
[02:56] <max_> h2os actualyl i think im looking for winbind info .. samba is easy =]
[02:56] <kindofabuzz> so sick of flash using up all the processor, is gnash any better?
[02:57] <max_> h2os , im trying to connect to the domain (mycompany.com) not just access shares
[02:57] <h2os> max_, can you wbinfo -g
[02:57] <h2os> max_, can you wbinfo -u
[02:57] <max_> h2os , im not at work right now
[02:57] <Pelo> kindofabuzz,  the very latest one uses a little less cpu
[02:57] <kindofabuzz> latest gnash or flash?
[02:57] <linkinxp> hey guys is there anyway to know what updates  the updated manager did!
[02:57] <theneb> except for compiz & screenlets, are there any other visual effects for ubuntu?
[02:57] <kittykitty> are you trying to open dynamic tunnels like a socks server would or just a single static one?
[02:57] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, latest flash
[02:58] <max_> theneb, beryl?
[02:58] <h2os> max_, well try those, they should enumerate your ad server, if not check out doc and see examples for win uid, gid and
[02:58] <kindofabuzz> pelo, i think i have the lastest, still using 100%
[02:58] <max_> h2os, thanks
[02:58] <bazhang> theneb: avant-window-navigator or awn
[02:58] <Pelo> theneb, gdesklets, l like screenlets but no compoziting ,  avant, conky
[02:58] <linkinxp> Pelo:  how are you doing?
[02:58] <theneb> cheers guys
[02:58] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, the latest is less then a week old
[02:58] <cellofellow> kittykitty: I want to connect client apps on port whatever to port 80 on the server
[02:58] <Pelo> linkinxp, giving out bad advice
[02:58] <zero88> Ok. I just installed a windows driver using ndiswrapper. Everything installed ok but when i try to load the module by typing     modprobe ndiswrapper. It seems ok but then i check dmesg and it doesnt show that the module ndiswrapper has loaded. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[02:58] <cellofellow> kittykitty: so, what do I need for that? Dynamic?
[02:59] <linkinxp> Pelo:  can i know how to know which updated i just got? is there any log?
[02:59] <h2os> is there a maximum allowed size ram disk (not just your physical amount of ram)
[02:59] <kindofabuzz> peo, i'll try it. should i unstall the one from repos?
[02:59] <Pelo> linkinxp, not that I know of
[02:59] <linkinxp> Pelo:  see bad advice lmao Jk
[02:59] <max_> linkinxp, there is, somewhere, i know it.
[02:59] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, no,  just dl the tar from the adobe site , and copy the .so file to both location where it is on your hdd
[03:00] <linkinxp> max_:  ???? yes?
[03:00] <kittykitty> open putty, load your profile, don't connect yet, goto the ssh/tunnels tree, then add a new source/destination for like a port for putty to listen on, then a destination of localhost:80
[03:00] <kindofabuzz> pelo, ok thanks
[03:00] <kittykitty> then just have your clients connect to your localhost:port and it should tunnel to your remote box
[03:00] <corinth> I'm getting an error after updating the Hardy beta:  E: ERROR: could not create configuration directory /home/root/.synaptic - mkdir (2 No such file or directory)
[03:00] <Pelo> linkinxp, what max has is called faith,  beleif without proof and little hope
[03:00] <corinth> Can't install packages now.
[03:00] <max_> its mostly just hope
[03:00] <linkinxp> Pelo:  hummm true
[03:01] <linkinxp> max_:  so?
[03:01] <cellofellow> ok... tried ssh me@myhost -D 12345 and connected firefox to localhost:12345 and got nothing.
[03:01] <linkinxp> where is it?
[03:01] <zero88> Can anyone tell me why modprobe wouldnt load a module?
[03:01] <Pelo> corinth, ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:01] <bsrat> Is it possible for a motherboard to lose power due to too many devices or a brownout and subsequently kill a 6-month old harddrive?  It has eaten a harddrive before, about two years ago.  I'm hoping I get my rma back in time for the new release of hardy heron.
[03:01] <hpjchobbes> When the update manger checks for updates, does it only check for software that I have installed? I just installed ubuntu and it says I have 197 updates
[03:01] <corinth> Pelo, thanks.
[03:01] <kittykitty> you can also drop the security options on putty and have it accept other network traffic (i.e. not from local host) so you can have other remote hosts access your server from you as well
[03:01] <max_> its somewhere, i knew years ago =]     you want dpkg log right?
[03:01] <linkinxp> max_:  yes to know what got updated
[03:02] <max_> mah, i was here and asked that same question and some guru told me where it was... o well =}
[03:02] <cellofellow> kittykitty: this is weird
[03:02] <bazhang> hpjchobbes: checks for things installed via apt-get; stuff you compile or download from random websites dont get checked
[03:02] <Pelo> linkinxp, maxkelley  var/log/dpkg.log
[03:03] <linkinxp> Pelo:  is empty i mean it doesnt exist
[03:03] <hpjchobbes> I'm not sure what apt-get is (brand new to this). Is that the stuff from the Add/Remove under the main menu?
[03:03] <phuzion> Ok, so uTorrent froze a while ago, so I killed it, and restarted it, but half of the icon is still up by my clock.  How do I get that to refresh up there?
[03:03] <genii> hpjchobbes: When making things from source code, best to use checkinstall. It will create a deb file which then the packaging system can track
[03:03] <linkinxp> Pelo:  my bad i got it thanks!!
[03:04] <bazhang> hpjchobbes: synaptic, apt-get add/remove yeah they are all one
[03:04] <hoodieanon> Is it true that Ubuntu was designed for gays?
[03:04] <bazhang> hoodieanon: stop now
[03:04] <linkinxp> i love updats
[03:04] <zocky> isn't it a bit odd that the icon for the terminal says ">_" ?
[03:05] <Pelo> hoodieanon, absolutely, and by joining this channel you are not officialy gay
[03:05] <zocky> shouldn't that be "$_"?
[03:05] <hoodieanon> ah
[03:05] <linkinxp> hoodieanon:  si papi para gays!
[03:05] <linkinxp> lmao
[03:05] <hoodieanon> thankyou
[03:05] <hoodieanon> bazhang is mod?
[03:05] <bazhang> !ops | hoodieanon
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[03:06] <free1> nixternal
[03:06] <linkinxp> awwww
[03:06] <free1> he runs its
[03:06] <cocox_> Hi there guys, anybody knows a way to edit a mounted image in order to burn it again? i have mount an image an i can't edit it and neither let me change the permissions.... anyway i copy the mounted files, edit them and burn them again, but that is not the point i mean and also the burned CD haven't boot attributes....
[03:07] <kittykitty> cellofellow, i just browsed the man file for ssh, you need to setup your applications to connect to your ssh tunnel as though it were a socks server
[03:07] <kindofabuzz> Pelo, lol yeah now only 96% processor use.  did seem to help the choppyness a tad bit though
[03:07] <Pelo> nixternal, he was officialy gay now you are guilty of bashing
[03:07] <cellofellow> kittykitty: that sounds nutty
[03:07] <hpjchobbes> Is there a good resource that explains a lot of the terminal stuff for new users? A lot of the forum posts I see tell people what to type in a terminal window, but never explain what it is the commands do or why you are doing them.
[03:07] <free1> I need to save a crash dump file in readable form. what's really good with that?
[03:07] <free1> ya mean
[03:07] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, I did say "a little less" cpu
[03:07] <kindofabuzz> i know =)
[03:07] <sveakex> what is long term support good for anyways?
[03:07] <kittykitty> not to nutty, its actually pretty easy compared to somethings
[03:08] <kindofabuzz> i oficailly hate flash now, horrible in linux
[03:08] <JyZyXEL> lol
[03:08] <cellofellow> kittykitty: what about some of this simple static stuff? all I want is to connect as a client to a remote apache server with encryption.
[03:08] <Pelo> sveakex, mostly for business who don'T want to upgrade the distros every 6 monts
[03:08] <bazhang> cocox_: you want to remaster an iso?
[03:08] <Pelo> kindofabuzz, I prefer hating java but to each his own
[03:08] <kindofabuzz> isn't that what the IT dept. gets paid for?
[03:08] <kittykitty> i'd use putty for that, but i'm lazy and i know it works
[03:08] <cocox_> bazhang, i want to add files to the image an burn it to a disc
[03:09] <sveakex> Pelo: rolling release would be more beneficial for them, lts releases, do they get updated after the next version is out?
[03:09] <cellofellow> kittykitty: ok, what are the exact options?
[03:09]  * mneptok hrmfs
[03:09] <bazhang> cocox_: that would be remastering then; there is a tool for that let me check on it
[03:09] <Pelo> sveakex, support for dapper will end with the official release of hardy ,  and by support I mean security updates
[03:10] <cocox_> bazhang, oh rigth thank you
[03:10] <kindofabuzz> is it possible to install xfce with out doing the xubuntu-desktop? i don't need all it's crap
[03:10] <kittykitty> ok, open putty, in your "sessions page" select your session for this box, click "load" then in the configuration tree, at the bottom is a Connection-SSH-Tunnels tree
[03:10] <cellofellow> kittykitty: all I want is SSH to listen on a local port for a connection, and pop that stuff out on the other end as localhost:80
[03:10] <cellofellow> ok, found that
[03:10] <linkinxp> Windows vista says that Vnc has something wrong:( lmao
[03:10] <kittykitty> in the tunnels option, Source port: 12345, Destination localhost:80, remote then click add
[03:11] <kittykitty> then go back and save your settings to a new session
[03:11] <kittykitty> and connect
[03:11] <Tyrosine> >> My audio isn't working!  It was working a few days ago...  My device looks normal in "alsamixer" (everything 100%, unmuted) and I don't get errors, I just can't hear sound! (laptop) - any ideas?
[03:12] <dsnyders> Hi all.  I'm using kdiff3 to merge directories, and II would like to get it to NOT merge files.  Anyone know how to do that?
[03:12] <Pelo> Tyrosine, anything special happened ?
[03:12] <Shdw|Laptop> bazhang, I followed the link you gave me and got Big Desktop working... but one monitor is smaller, yet it's running at the bigger resolution
[03:12] <Pici> Pelo, sveakex: Dapper support (security updates) does not end until 2009 on the desktop and 2011 on the server.
[03:12] <zero88> Does anyone know where the config files for the wireless interface is located?
[03:12] <Shdw|Laptop> Do you have any idea how to make one monitor run at a smaller resolution?
[03:12] <Tyrosine> Pelo: I installed a restricted video driver, but that's about it
[03:12] <cellofellow> kittykitty: now I can connect to localhost:12345 with Firefox and it will serve as if I was using localhost:80 from the server?
[03:12] <z1> !ping me
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ping me - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <sveakex> Pelo: so when 8.10 will be released no new packages for 8.04?
[03:12] <cellofellow> kittykitty: I get errors
[03:12] <kittykitty> ?
[03:12] <cellofellow> just a Page Load Error in Firefox, can't connect.
[03:12] <Pelo> Pici, don't worry no one listens to me I'm always wrong anyway
[03:13] <Pici> sveakex: When 8.04 is released there will be no new packages for 8.04, save backports.
[03:13] <referee-bot> i want to search 1 proxy live , how can i do it?
[03:13] <Pelo> sveakex, 8.04 is lts supported for 3 years
[03:13] <linkinxp> When i open 3 videos in Firefox i mean the Third one firefox crashes and reboots itself :O
[03:13] <cellofellow> kittykitty: can't connect to localhost 12345 with telnet
[03:13] <Pelo> or 4 I forget
[03:13] <bazhang> http://uck.sourceforge.net/ cocox_ and this as well --> http://fabrizioballiano.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/remastering-an-ubuntu-alternate-iso-with-ubuntu-customization-kit-the-complete-guide/
[03:13] <linkinxp> Pelo:  what do you think about that?
[03:13] <nickrud> Pelo 3 desktop, 5 server
[03:13] <sveakex> Pici: you mean when 8.10 is released there will be no new packages for 8.04?
[03:13] <Mighty_Penguin> Pelo i believe 3 years desktop, and 5 server
[03:13] <cocox_> bazhang, thank you very much i will check them! =)
[03:13] <Pelo> Tyrosine, restricted driver is probably the problem
[03:14] <referee-bot> i want to search 1 proxy live , how can i do it?
[03:14] <bazhang> cocox_: no worries ;]
[03:14] <Pelo> linkinxp, thnk about what ?
[03:14] <Pici> sveakex: Do you mean version upgrades or security patches?
[03:14] <linkinxp> Pelo:  When i open 3 videos in Firefox i mean the Third one firefox crashes and reboots itself :O
[03:14] <Pelo> !sound > Tyrosine  review this  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[03:14] <xoqa> after installing plone-site, what to do? what port is the site typically on?
[03:14] <Pelo> linkinxp, yeps welcome to FF3
[03:14] <bazhang> Shdw|Laptop: that does take a bit of tweaking; there are likely others here (or on the forums) who have a similar setup--let me take a quick look
[03:14] <linkinxp> Pelo:  FF3?
[03:15] <Shdw|Laptop> Ok, thank you
[03:15] <kittykitty> sorty, rty again with local instead of remote
[03:15] <Pelo> linkinxp, you're not using firefox 3 beta 5 , cause it does that
[03:15] <referee-bot> i want to search 1 proxy live , how can i do it?
[03:15] <cellofellow> kittykitty: ok
[03:15] <sveakex> Pelo: isn't it the same thing, if apache has a security vulnerability won't the newer version of apache be released on ubuntu?
[03:15] <xoqa> i know it should have said, and i thought i recorded the port correctly, but it's nothing on 8081
[03:15] <referee-bot> help me
[03:15] <linkinxp> Pelo:  i am!
[03:15] <cellofellow> kittykitty: same thing
[03:15] <nickrud> referee-bot restate your question please
[03:15] <Pelo> sveakex, a fix will be released not a new version
[03:15] <Werenerd> Pelo: well, that sucked
[03:16] <ingo> hallo 2gether! how can i convert a whole directory of html-files to pdf? do anyone know a script-solution??
[03:16] <referee-bot> i want to search 1 proxy live , how can i do it?
[03:16] <referee-bot> help me
[03:16] <playya> hi, anyone else fights against saa7134, too?
[03:16] <nickrud> referee-bot you need to restate the question, what proxy, which live?
[03:16] <sveakex> Pelo: ok..
[03:16] <Pelo> Werenerd, ubuntu does not update versions, within releases, only fixes and security stuff
[03:17] <hooh> referee-bot, goto search proxy list
[03:17] <bazhang> http://hobbylobby.wordpress.com/2007/12/16/ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-dual-head-monitors-working/ Shdw|Laptop here is more info; this will apparently be improved (xrandr) in next release
[03:17] <Zelta> How would I get Vidalia working in ubuntu?
[03:17] <cellofellow> Werenerd: except for when you use backports repository, then you get new versions.
[03:17] <Shdw|Laptop> ok
[03:17] <Werenerd> Pelo: I was talking about the GNome color issues I was having. You were helping me earlier. I just got my UI back
[03:18] <Pelo> Werenerd, ho, you changed your nick
[03:18] <ingo> how can i convert a whole directory of html-files to pdf? do anyone know a script-solution??
[03:18] <dsnyders> Anybody know a good tool for merging directories?
[03:18] <Pelo> Werenerd, did yo manage to fix it ?
[03:18] <Werenerd> Pelo: I didn't realize... someone must have grabbed it
[03:18] <Pelo> Werenerd, I would not have remembered anyway
[03:18] <Werenerd> I just deleted the .gnome .gnome2 .gconf and .gconfd directories
[03:19] <kittykitty> funny cause i just loaded up putty to see if it worked, and i can netstat -an on my windows box and now i have a TCP 127.0.0.1:12345 0.0.0.0 LISTENING
[03:19] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/09/setup-vidalia-tor-gui-with-ubuntu-and.html Zelta this?
[03:19] <yotux> how can I remove a partition from my ubuntu system?
[03:19] <Werenerd> Pelo: I am now moving on from that problem to the next. I have been trying to fix my Samba setup for weeks and I am having no luck. It was working fine, then not at all. I can see my shared folders. just not the files inside. It keeps telling me they are deleted. Know anything about that?
[03:20] <Pelo> yotux, use gparted,  umount it and delete partition
[03:20] <Zelta> Yeah, thanks bazhang
[03:20] <Pelo> Werenerd, I know nothing about samba,  you might want to ask in #samba
[03:20] <yotux> Pelo,  I get a error when butting because I removed a partion will gpart take care of this?
[03:20] <Werenerd> Pelo: excellent idea
[03:20] <wil> i, I crashed to desktop from running a full screen app, now the video resolution has changed and my mouse is frozen... I need to restore my session and wondering what can I type to restore the mouse (then I can fix res through menu) I can only do alt+f2 run commands! Also, Xchat is maximised, so I can only see a few lines at a time... need help bad please!
[03:21] <HACK-HOTMAIL> ?
[03:21] <Pelo> yotux, no it won'T  edit your /etc/fstab file and remove the reference to the partittion you deleted
[03:21] <kittykitty> alt+ctrl+f1
[03:22] <Pelo> wil try jsut restarting x , ctrl alt backspace
[03:22] <yotux> Pelo: Thankz
[03:22]  * Pelo is on a roll 
[03:22] <cellofellow> kittykitty: I got it
[03:22] <nickrud> wil if pelo's idea doesn't work, you can hit alt-f1 to get the menus, and open a terminal to work with
[03:23] <arooni-mobile> how do i telnet to localhost:8118 and then see if my tor/privoxy proxy is working ok?
[03:23] <cellofellow> ssh -f -L localport:localhost:remoteport remotehost sleep 10
[03:23] <Pelo> nickrud, your lack of faith is disturbing
[03:23] <nickrud> Pelo yup ;p
[03:23]  * nickrud saw pelo was on a roll (again) and just had to :)
[03:24]  * Pelo 's stride is broken now 
[03:25] <sparr_> I have two repos.  One with high default priority, the other with higher priority for one package.  That package has dependencies only met in the second repo.  How can I get the dependencies from the second repo instead of an error that the versions in the first repo are not new enough?
[03:25] <happily> nickrud, hehe,what's up
[03:26] <nickrud> hi icesword Not much
[03:26] <geekyD> hello
[03:26] <Pelo> sparr_, are you talking about repos on a cd ?
[03:26] <sparr_> Pelo: no
[03:26] <wil> nickrud, thanks for that, been trying to do all combinations of winkey, had no idea you could access menu bar like that
[03:26] <bazhang> what repos sparr_ and what is your final goal
[03:26] <wil> I have fixed my resolution, but is there anyway to reset the mouse?
[03:26] <wil> it is frozen in one spot
[03:27] <Pelo> sparr_, repos are server based storage of files,  it doesn'T realy matter if stuff is on one or ther other,  apt should check them all to get taht it needs ,
[03:27] <sparr_> Pelo: i agree, it should
[03:27] <sparr_> bazhang: ubuntu and debian.  i want to install one package and its dependencies from debian.  right now ive got that package pinned to the debian repo, but apt says the dependencies coming from the ubuntu repo are too old
[03:28] <Pelo> wil I hate to say this but just reboot
[03:28] <nickrud> wil the X restart didn't fix it?
[03:28] <wil> restarting x works fine in the past, but I have some important windows open that I can not save
[03:28] <bazhang> sparr_: here I must defer; that is very risky behaviour
[03:28] <wil> 3 hours of work :( and it has no menu bars so I cant alt + whatever to save
[03:28] <wil> needs mouse :(
[03:28] <arooni-mobile> how do i fix:  http://pastie.caboo.se/180855  (ubuntu gutsy (i've already installed tor))
[03:28] <Jordan_U> Anyone else having problems with restricted drivers in 2.6.24-15-generic ?
[03:28] <nickrud> wil  clt-tab switches between windows, alt-F will activate the menu for each window
[03:28] <sparr_> bazhang: i agree, but i am left little choice when ubuntu doesn't get the new packages for months
[03:28] <decay> where phpmyadmin installed?
[03:29] <Pelo> wil let me try and figure out what hte process that controls the mouse his
[03:29] <Jordan_U> sparr_, What are you trying to install specifically?
[03:29] <bazhang> sparr_: then run sidux
[03:29] <sparr_> decay: dpkg -L phpmyadmin
[03:29] <sparr_> Jordan_U: wesnoth
[03:29] <decay> sparr_: thank you
[03:29] <wil> Pelo, i thought it was just hung, I know what app it was, I will try to look through task manager
[03:29] <nickrud> wil and clt-alt-<arrow> will switch between desktops
[03:29] <sparr_> bazhang: i dont see how that would be any better than just running debian
[03:30] <Jordan_U> sparr_, Is this the latest version? http://www.getdeb.net/app/The+Battle+for+Wesnoth
[03:30] <nickrud> Pelo X talks directly to the mouse, it's the process
[03:30] <wil> nickrud, its on the current desktop, the app just has no menus
[03:30] <nickrud> wil ah, bummer. try ctl-S for save, often works
[03:30] <Pelo> nickrud,  but isnT' the moust connected throught one of the getty ?
[03:31] <bazhang> sparr_: if you want the very newest of the new then that or fedora would be the best bets; going outside ubuntu to get the newest before they are officially certified not to break your machine is a seriously risky proposition
[03:31] <nickrud> Pelo no I don't think so. You can look at /etc/event.d for the getty defs
[03:31] <sparr_> Jordan_U: since thats from gutsy, almost certainly not.  i expect that that is 1.4-0, where hardy has 1.4-1, and debian unstable has 1.4-2
[03:31] <wil> what is the file name of task manager?
[03:31] <sparr_> bazhang: thanks for the warning.  now will you tell me how to do it?
[03:32] <nickrud> wil gnome-session-properties
[03:32] <bazhang> sparr_: you are talking about apt-pinning correct?
[03:32] <sparr_> bazhang: yes
[03:32] <arooni-mobile> how do i fix:  http://pastie.caboo.se/180855  (ubuntu gutsy (i've already installed tor)) ... i CANT install privoxy
[03:33] <Jordan_U> sparr_, Is there something wrong with the getdeb version?
[03:33] <sparr_> it's old?
[03:33] <kittykitty> actually arooni-mobile, you have installed it, you need to configure it now
[03:33] <sparr_> i could post a changelog
[03:33] <wil> nickrud, that is not even displaying all the apps running :S
[03:33] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, looks like it fialed to me
[03:34] <wil> Nickrud, is there another one?
[03:34] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en
[03:34] <nickrud> wil ah, wrong thing then.  gnome-system-monitor
[03:34] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto sparr_ here is some info; there is much more with the search terms ubuntu debian apt-pinning
[03:34] <kittykitty> try dpkg-reconfigure privoxy
[03:34] <linkinxp> VNC authentication succeeded
[03:34] <linkinxp> vncviewer: VNC server closed connection
[03:34] <linkinxp> why?
[03:35] <sparr_> bazhang: ive read them.  they don't go very far, and in some cases are quite out of date
[03:35] <nickrud> sparr_ when you pinned, did you pin by app version? That should pull in the highest numbered dependencies
[03:35] <wil> damn, not working :( ok, well, going to have to restart
[03:35] <bazhang> sparr_: never tried it; dont want a broken machine--sorry not to be of any help in this instance
[03:36] <Messedrocker> in a typical installation of Ubuntu is SSH by default enabled?
[03:36] <nickrud> Messedrocker outgoing, yes, incoming no. You need to install openssh-sever for incoming
[03:37] <genii> sparr_: You might find apt.conf interesting reading. Much is covered there
[03:37] <Messedrocker> openssh-server * ?
[03:37] <genii> sparr_: The manpage for apt.conf, to clarify
[03:37] <nickrud> Messedrocker yes, sorry typo
[03:37] <zero88> How do I get ndiswrapper to load at reboot?
[03:37] <Messedrocker> ok
[03:37] <Shadow420> ds_ you can pick up a router at wal-mart or a computer store for about $20-$40
[03:37] <nickrud> apt-pinning is black magic, anyway
[03:37] <kittykitty> add modprobe ndiswrapper to your thingy :P
[03:38] <zero88> How do I get ndiswrapper to load at reboot?
[03:38] <Pelo> kittykitty,  dumb it down a bit ,  technical terms comfuse ppl
[03:38] <Shadow420> nickrud well I use apt-get alot
[03:38] <nickrud> zero88  add the line   ndiswrapper   to /etc/modules
[03:38] <nickrud> Shadow420 so do I, but apt-pinning is another animal completely
[03:38] <zero88> nickrud, thanks dude
[03:39] <Messedrocker> what would be the command for getting openssh-server?
[03:39] <sparr_> genii: the man page for apt.conf is out of date, not in sync with apt.  this is the case on both debian and ubuntu, and no one updates it because no one cares
[03:39] <genii> sparr_: Aso the manpage of apt_preferences specifically deals with the pinning and the numbers involved there, etc
[03:39] <nickrud> Messedrocker  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:39] <linkinxp> Messedrocker:  go to synaptic manager
[03:39] <Messedrocker> thank you
[03:39] <Shdw|Laptop> Messedrocker, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[03:39] <sparr_> ditto the preferences man page
[03:40] <nickrud> Messedrocker but synaptic is a great way to find/install apps , all the nice search/install tools in one place
[03:40] <sparr_> the MOST frustrating part of RTFMing is to discover that TFM is wrong
[03:40] <genii> Which remains pretty much the same from dist to dist and so is relevant
[03:40] <sparr_> genii: those man pages are wrong on multiple dists
[03:40] <nickrud> sparr_ that's why it's black magic. pinning doesn't work as described
[03:40] <mcknight> what is MAT service when kernel starts?
[03:41] <Shadow420> nickrud apt-pinning? what the hell is that?
[03:41] <arooni-mobile> how do i fix:  http://pastie.caboo.se/180855  (ubuntu gutsy (i've already installed tor)) ... i CANT install privoxy
[03:41] <sparr_> Shadow420: telling apt how to handle multiple repos with conflicting versions
[03:41] <nickrud> Shadow420 having multiple sources of the same package in different versions and repos, and trying to resolve conflicts
[03:41] <dwidmann> after exiting two of my VTs have failed to return to the login prompt, how can I get them back to a prompt so I can log in with them again? (I have a habit of exiting out of sessions when I'm done)
[03:42] <Shadow420> nickrud sparr_ I am not going to use it
[03:42] <mcknight> \quit
[03:42] <smilevil> i got a okipage 14ex but i don't have drivers for it, how i can make this work
[03:43] <arooni-mobile> how do i fix:  http://pastie.caboo.se/180855  (ubuntu gutsy (i've already installed tor)) ... i CANT install privoxy (here is etc/init.d/privoxy:  http://pastie.caboo.se/180860)
[03:43] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, try installing it using synaptic instead of aptitude , and  purge it first
[03:43] <nickrud> lol, Shadow420 a very wise choice. I used it with debian to get stuff from the experimental repo, but only used tried and true rules from people that wrote apt and understood the stuff
[03:43] <bazhang> smilevil: what is that?
[03:43] <icesword> nickrud, are you using 8.04,how is it
[03:43] <smilevil> bazhang, a printer
[03:43] <nickrud> icesword my lips are sealed on hardy here
[03:43] <Shadow420> has 8.04 been released?
[03:43] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, how do i purge first?
[03:44] <genii> arooni-mobile: April 24th
[03:44] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, in synaptic use the remove completely option , apply then reinstall it
[03:44] <icesword> nickrud, hehe,no worries
[03:44] <Shadow420> I don't trust beta OS's it scares me
[03:45] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, same error:  E: privoxy: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:45] <genii> Sorry, message meant for you Shadow420: April 24th
[03:45] <Pelo> arooni-mobile, google for the source and compile it
[03:45] <sparr_> Shadow420: good, apt pinning is for crazy people.  like me.
[03:45] <arooni-mobile> Pelo, ok ... boo ubuntu
[03:45] <leo_rockw> hello #ubuntu
[03:45] <Shadow420> if I tried anything OS beta I would make sure I have a cpu emulator like qemu vmware or bochs
[03:46] <Shadow420> to test it in and have a decent computer to do so
[03:47] <bazhang> smilevil: is this shared with an xp box?
[03:47] <linkinxp> i love vnc :D
[03:48] <sveakex> is it possible to resize jfs drives?
[03:48] <themoebius> I have an amd64 CPU, but I'm running 32 bit ubuntu because it has better compatibility. can I still benefit from some 64bit applications, though?
[03:48] <linkinxp> nop
[03:48] <Pelo> sveakex, open gparted,  check in info or properties under the file menu, you will have a list of FS and what gparted can doto them
[03:48] <linkinxp> themoebius:  64 its for 64 and 32 its for both
[03:48] <bazhang> themoebius: only with a reinstall
[03:49] <themoebius> so in other words, I need to be running a 64bit kernel to use 64bit applications?
[03:49] <bazhang> aye
[03:49] <Shadow420> themoebius no u can't I suggest u get the 64-bit version you can run 32-bit apps on 64 if I remember correctly just not the other way around
[03:49] <sveakex> Pelo: there is no file in gparted
[03:50] <Pelo> sveakex, in the menu ?
[03:50] <Dh0> Hello, can someone please direct me to where i can get help with setting up Compiz fusion?
[03:50] <Pelo> sveakex, sorry,  the gparted menu in ht emenu
[03:50] <Pelo> the menu
[03:50] <Shadow420> I will be back later
[03:50] <linkinxp> Dh0:  #compiz-fusion
[03:50] <sveakex> aha
[03:51] <themoebius> mmm i might convert to 64bit when 8.04 is released
[03:51] <linkinxp> there ull find everything
[03:51] <sveakex> ouch. i can't shrink my partition.
[03:51] <genii> sveakex: If it's an ntfs one, did you run the chkdsk in Windows then reboot twice, etc etc as recommended?
[03:52] <sveakex> genii: jfs
[03:52] <bazhang> smilevil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161520 from this link it does not look good
[03:52] <sveakex> genii: thanks though
[03:52] <sveakex> Pelo: thanks
[03:52] <Pelo> ;-)
[03:52] <Joeseph> for some reason, fusesmb can't access /media/network and super chmod 777 /media/network gives me an error that the permission is denied: what do I do?
[03:52] <linkinxp> wow Man command its awesome!
[03:53] <leo_rockw> linkinxp: you know what's awesome? man: in konqueror ;-)
[03:53] <genii> sveakex: If from livecd then you need to have jfs support before trying to resize. Same as gparted can't make an ntfs partition without the ntfsprogs or so installed.
[03:53] <linkinxp> leo_rockw:  :P i guess
[03:53] <linkinxp> lmao
[03:53] <leo_rockw> linkinxp: sorry, i had to say it. i'm a kde fanboi
[03:54] <linkinxp> leo_rockw:  thats ok! i like gnome i like foot :D mmmm a nice clean girl foot :D
[03:54] <arooni-mobile> help!  i cant even install privoxy from source!  http://pastie.caboo.se/180863
[03:54] <leo_rockw> arooni-mobile: why from source?
[03:54] <Joeseph> anyone? why do I not have access to one of my own drives?
[03:55] <Joeseph> or rather, folders
[03:55] <jua1> !via
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <linkinxp> arooni-mobile:  that program is in the synaptic packages
[03:55] <bazhang> which folder Joeseph
[03:55] <arooni-mobile> leo_rockw, cuz it wont work from the repo (see earlier message, or: (  http://pastie.caboo.se/180855  (ubuntu gutsy (i've already installed tor)) ... i CANT install privoxy )
[03:55] <leo_rockw> jua1: i heard via has its own linux page now
[03:55] <arooni-mobile> linkinxp, sure but it doesnt install correctly!
[03:55] <arooni-mobile> it fails kinda hard
[03:56] <linkinxp> arooni-mobile:  o idk ask Pelo
[03:56] <jua1> hello guys how can i install my integrated graphic card VIA p4m900
[03:56] <leo_rockw> arooni-mobile: there's nothing wrong with the package. i installed it last week.
[03:56] <Pelo> linkinxp, don't send ppl to me,  I jump in when I can help
[03:56] <belk> hello
[03:56] <linkinxp> Pelo:  okey my bad
[03:56] <Joeseph> bazhang: I made a /media/network folder to use with fusesmb so I can view my windows network in xfce, but eveything I type, it tells me that I don't have permission
[03:56] <arooni-mobile> leo_rockw,   http://pastie.caboo.se/180855  .. how do i fix that then
[03:57] <belk> can i have ububtu as server and have xp pc's connected to
[03:57] <leo_rockw> arooni-mobile: i said there's nothing wrong with the package, not that i knew how to fix it
[03:57] <arooni-mobile> leo_rockw, well that seems like something thats wrong with the package
[03:57] <arooni-mobile> if it cant install correctly
[03:57] <leo_rockw> arooni-mobile: whatever is wrong, is not wrong with the package, that's what i said. the package did install
[03:58] <Genius314> Is there a way to hook up a composite video output (such as a game or camera) to an ATI All-in-Wonder card and view the video in real-time?
[03:58] <kittykitty> i tried to tell him that leo_rockw
[03:58] <leo_rockw> arooni-mobile: the configuration failed
[03:58] <kittykitty> he needs to reconfigure it and see if it'll start again
[03:58] <arooni-mobile> leo_rockw, well i cant use it at all... so what good does it do :9
[03:58] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, how do i reconfigure
[03:58] <leo_rockw> arooni-mobile: exactly what kittykitty says
[03:58] <arooni-mobile> i tried reinstalling/uninstalling etc
[03:58] <kittykitty> try dpkg-reconfigure privoxy ?
[03:58] <belk> can i make a network with ubuntu and windows xp?
[03:59] <leo_rockw> belk: yes you can
[03:59] <kittykitty> you might have something already running on the port that privoxy wants to claim
[03:59] <leo_rockw> !samba | belk
[03:59] <ubotu> belk: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[03:59] <linkinxp> belk:  yes install samba
[03:59] <kittykitty> or you can read the manual and see where the privoxy config file is an do it by hand
[03:59] <jua1> leo_rockw: uhmm thanks
[03:59] <arooni-mobile> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: privoxy is broken or not fully installed
[03:59] <Joeseph> I don't understand why I don't have permission to a folder I just created: why is this?
[03:59] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, i mean
[03:59] <belk> samba?
[04:00] <Joeseph> samba runs it belk: but its through fusesmb I think... I'm not quite sure
[04:00] <kindofabuzz> Joeseph, did you sudo create it?
[04:00] <Joeseph> kindofabuzz: I'm pretty sure I did
[04:00] <linkinxp> that's why
[04:00]  * kittykitty goes to read the manual to arooni... over an already text based chat
[04:00] <belk> i always used windows and now i want to learn linux so have an ubuntu server on my network
[04:01] <kindofabuzz> Joeseph, well that's why.  root owns it
[04:01] <Joeseph> oh
[04:01] <Joeseph> well
[04:01] <Joeseph> I don't know what that means kindofabuzz
[04:01] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, well my point is that i have no idea how to do this............  this wasnt supposed to happen
[04:01] <Joeseph> kindofabuzz: how do I get it back to me?
[04:01] <linkinxp> Joeseph:  root its the super user
[04:02] <leo_rockw> Joeseph: what in windoze is called administrator
[04:02] <linkinxp> Joeseph:  if you created something with Sudo then y cant access it with a normal user
[04:02] <Joeseph> I thought I was admin
[04:02] <leo_rockw> Joeseph: nope
[04:02] <kindofabuzz> Joeseph, sudo chown -R username:group /folder
[04:02] <linkinxp> Joeseph:  in linux we called Root
[04:02] <leo_rockw> Joeseph: that would be a security flaw
[04:02] <Pici> !sudo | Joeseph
[04:02] <ubotu> Joeseph: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[04:02] <leo_rockw> Joeseph: and don't try to be root all the time, that won't be wise
[04:03] <belk> is ubuntu the best linux i can use as server?
[04:03] <jbmigel> i think my drive died. when i boot the livecd and look in dmesg i get error 0x04 {DriveStatusError} INVALID GEOMETRY: 0 physical heads
[04:03] <leo_rockw> !best | belk
[04:03] <ubotu> belk: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[04:03] <kittykitty> arooni-mobile, go edit the file /etc/privoxy/config
[04:04] <kittykitty> and try to '/etc/init.d/privoxy start' to see what errors it gives you
[04:04] <Joeseph> kindofabuzz: sudo chown -R username:group /folder will give me access to the folder, right?   I know what username is, what's group?
[04:04] <omar_> Guys, how do I change the looks of the desktop panels? I want them to look cool, ya know. What are the applications used for that?
[04:04] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, i've already edited the file to match ; http://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en
[04:04] <WillieDaPimp> how would i go about updating the firmware on my dvd burner through linux? i tried wine but when the firmware program started to run it came up with an error about needing administrator access, so i tried running wine as root and still the same error
[04:04] <genii> belk: For home experimenting ubuntu server is fine. If you plan to do some kind of major hosting, perhaps look into Debian for linux, or FreeBSD for a unix-like OS.
[04:05] <kittykitty> ok then do '/etc/init.d/privoxy start' and tell me in short words what error it has
[04:05] <genii> Bah. Another "Ask and run" user
[04:05] <Genius314> Is it possible to view composite input to an ATI All-in-Wonder card in real-time? (For instance, connecting a game system, and being able to see the game on the screen as I play it.)
[04:06] <linxeh> genii: ubuntu is rapidly gaining ground in the enterprise too. I work for a government agency and we are using it now (vs RedHat)
[04:06] <linxeh> genii: debian doesnt get a look in because we cant easily "buy" support like we can for ubuntu
[04:06] <leo_rockw> linxeh: being that ubuntu is based on the unstable part of debian... i'd go with debian for a more professional server
[04:06] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, Starting filtering proxy server: /etc/init.d/privoxy: 77: cannot create /var/log/privoxy/errorfile: Permission denied
[04:06] <Fa1sal> hi all
[04:06] <genii> linxeh: Good points
[04:06] <kittykitty> lol
[04:06] <linxeh> leo_rockw: that doesnt come into it for most enterprises. can you buy support? no? oh well... etc
[04:06] <linxeh> thats how most enterprises work
[04:07] <kittykitty> ok how about we check if you actually have that directory there to start with
[04:07] <kittykitty> do a ls /var/log/privoxy
[04:07] <leo_rockw> linxeh: that makes sense. why ubuntu over redhat?
[04:07] <agni> доброго времени суток
[04:07] <bazhang> !ru
[04:07] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[04:07] <Joeseph> leo_rockw, linkinxp, kindofabuzz: what's the command to get control of /media/network?
[04:07] <Fa1sal> Java crashes on firefox ??
[04:08] <linxeh> leo_rockw: because you HAVE to buy the support for redhat
[04:08] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, i have both;  i chmod'd them to 777
[04:08] <leo_rockw> linxeh: oh... ok. that's a good argument, haha.
[04:08] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, now when i restart privoxy i seeRestarting filtering proxy server:  (with no errors)
[04:08] <kittykitty> ok arooni-mobile, try sudo /etc/init.d/privoxy start
[04:08] <linxeh> leo_rockw: and because redhat is soo poor in terms of packages / updating. its so easy to set up a repo mirror with ubuntu. with redhat its a nightmare
[04:08] <arooni-mobile> does that mean its al set up?
[04:08] <kittykitty> probably
[04:08] <Fa1sal> i need help
[04:09] <kittykitty> you might beable to check if it is running
[04:09] <zero88> how do i log out of fluxbox to log into gnome?
[04:09] <leo_rockw> linxeh: i heard that, but i actually never tried a redhat based distro. thanks for the clarification.
[04:09] <kittykitty> by either doing /etc/init.d/privoxy status or just "ps aux | grep privoxy"
[04:09] <Joeseph> anyone: how do I get permision back from the root from a folder?
[04:09] <kittykitty> and seeing if stuff is running
[04:09] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, LilArooni /etc/privoxy: ps -lA | ack privoxy
[04:09] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, yields nothing
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> zero88, discovered that flux isn't for you?
[04:10] <zero88> Daisuke_Ido, no. Just want to log out and use network manager real quick in gnome. Ive used iwconfig to set everyhting. jstu want to check a few things
[04:10] <Daisuke_Ido> zero88, ctrl-alt-backspace to restart gdm and select a new session to log into
[04:10] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, still looks like its not running
[04:10] <Daisuke_Ido> that's the ugly way, of course
[04:10] <linkinxp> Joeseph:  open nautilus as a root ....... root nautilus
[04:10] <linkinxp>  i mean
[04:10] <iamphi> how do i remove apache, apache2, php4, and php5? ran apt-get remove on them, but there are still on my system. apache still starts. i have the command line only.
[04:11] <linkinxp> Joeseph:  open nautilus as a root ....... sudo nautilus
[04:11] <Daisuke_Ido> but i don't remember how to actually log out of a fluxbox session :\
[04:11] <linxeh> leo_rockw: for some things we still have to run redhat though
[04:11] <bazhang> gksu nautilus
[04:11] <kittykitty> then try stopping it /etc/init.d/privoxy stop
[04:11] <linkinxp> iamphi:  use synaptic manager
[04:11] <linxeh> leo_rockw: oracle, bea weblogic etc
[04:11] <whatev> !list
[04:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:11] <kittykitty> then restarting it with sudo and see if it gives errors
[04:11] <iamphi> linkinxp: i dont have xwindow
[04:11] <zero88> Daisuke_Ido, thanks
[04:11] <Joeseph> linkinxp: done so
[04:11] <kittykitty> use the start and stop not restart command
[04:12] <linxeh> leo_rockw: while they run on ubuntu fine, as soon as we get a problem we have to replicate on redhat before we can get anywhere with support :(
[04:12] <bbjester> os[Linux 2.6.22-14-generic i686] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.70GHz @ 1.69GHz] mem[Physical : 503MB, 36.9% free] disk[Total : 370.29GB, 56.10% Free] video[nVidia Corporation NV11DDR [GeForce2 MX200]] sound[]
[04:12] <linkinxp> iamphi:  command line?
[04:12] <linkinxp> Joeseph:  well ?
[04:12] <iamphi> linkinxp: ssh only
[04:12] <linkinxp> iamphi:  lol i d k
[04:12] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, tried with sudo; also no errors
[04:12] <leo_rockw> linxeh: so redhat is like your second opinion...
[04:12] <Joeseph> linkinxp: its now showing network as a file....  and says: the attempt to log in falied
[04:13] <Joeseph> failed
[04:13] <kittykitty> well you might not see it running as privoxy, see if your application is working
[04:13] <Joeseph> linkinxp: the permissions page says the permissions cannot be determined
[04:13] <genii> iamphi: Maybe try something like: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache apache2 libapache2-mod-php5
[04:13] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, its not :( get http://www.ebay.com HTTP\1.0 (via telnet) yields:  Connection closed by foreign host.
[04:14] <linkinxp> Joeseph:  my knowledge doesnt go that far lol
[04:14] <Joeseph> great
[04:14] <kittykitty> try google or something a little less secure about who they'd be serving
[04:14] <Joeseph> up a creek.... just like every other ubuntu problme
[04:14] <linkinxp> i need a program to Broadcast video!
[04:14] <Joeseph> *sigh*
[04:15] <linkinxp> :(
[04:15] <iamphi> genii: no good :(
[04:15] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, also doesnt work  ;  i recall ebay working before
[04:15] <Joeseph> my soundcard isn't working either.... bleh..... maybe I'll switch back to xp for a day or two.... let my anger for ubuntu slowly go away
[04:15] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, pretty sure its not working :(
[04:15] <eigma> are there any .tar.bz2 FUSE packages in Ubuntu?
[04:16] <leo_rockw> Joeseph: yeah, i'm sure it's all ubuntu's fault and not your sound card company...
[04:18] <genii> iamphi: You must not have installed by the package manager then. Did you compile them from source code??
[04:19] <juggy> i can remember how to get to a stste team, isnt it #STATE.ubuntu?
[04:19] <juggy> *state
[04:19] <iamphi> genii, i used 'apt-get install'
[04:19] <arooni-mobile> kittykitty, any ideas?
[04:19] <leo_rockw> juggy: you mean like a loco team?
[04:19] <juggy> ya
[04:19] <Odd-rationale> !loco
[04:19] <ubotu> Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[04:20] <leo_rockw> juggy: the argentina team is #ubuntu-ar
[04:20] <juggy> kk
[04:20] <leo_rockw> juggy: the state one might be #ubuntu-state
[04:20] <juggy> thnx and bye
[04:20] <kittykitty> not really, good luck though :D
[04:20] <style23> x-silverlight plugin - is there any plugin that works with this plugin or a way to download it in linux?
[04:20] <arooni-mobile> can someone help me getting privoxy working?
[04:20] <leo_rockw> style23: moonlight?
[04:20] <style23> leo_rockw yep
[04:20] <juggy> i need an invitation to join AZ's!!??!?!??!?!??!
[04:21] <bazhang> arooni-mobile: does that not just block ads?
[04:21] <leo_rockw> style23: the question mark is because i'm not sure how to go about it. but moonlight is the answer to silverlight
[04:21] <linxeh> leo_rockw: heh something like that ;-)
[04:21] <arooni-mobile> bazhang, im not using it for that
[04:21] <leo_rockw> bazhang: no, privoxy is an all purpose proxy
[04:21] <linxeh> leo_rockw: redhat is the corporate standard, but really its just a pita
[04:22] <bazhang> arooni-mobile: ah okay; the repos do not have it?
[04:22] <style23> leo_rockw do you think there is a way to get moonlight in linux
[04:22] <mountainma1> hi all, i'm trying to download a ubuntu 7.10 "gusty gibbons" .iso to install as my sys has not worked properly after some updates and my live cd was stolen.  none of the .iso files i find seem to work tho, any ideas?
[04:22] <arooni-mobile> bazhang, they do ... i installed it via one
[04:22] <bazhang> mountainma1: check the md5 sum yet?
[04:22] <arooni-mobile> bazhang, but its not running
[04:22] <leo_rockw> style23: moonlight is only for linux. novel was developing it w/ m$ help. i'm not sure how to make it work (i haven't found any silverlight page so far)
[04:22] <Pici> juggy: The arizona channel is #ubuntu-us-az
[04:22] <juggy> ok
[04:22] <leo_rockw> linxeh: i should test drive fedora so i can witness the dependency nightmare first hand
[04:23] <juggy> i havent done in a long time... i got dumb
[04:23] <juggy> thnx
[04:23] <omar_> How do I change the looks of the desktop panels?
[04:23] <style23> leo_rockw oh ok wow I didn't know that.. I thought that was all microsoft
[04:23] <leo_rockw> style23: novel is m$ lol
[04:23] <linxeh> leo_rockw: :) wait till you upgrade :)
[04:23] <lucy> #id-ubuntu
[04:23] <style23> leo_rockw learn something everyday
[04:24] <lucy> whats chat with ondonesian forum
[04:24] <genii> iamphi: Does: dpkg -S apache                      spew out a lot of lines?
[04:24] <Pici> lucy: #ubuntu-id
[04:24] <leo_rockw> style23: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight_(runtime)
[04:24] <dem0nk> can't get gtparted or part magic to resize my ext3 file system.  any ideas
[04:24] <iamphi> genii: yes
[04:24] <lucy> thanks mr pici
[04:24] <agilman> dem0nk: try partition magic
[04:24] <style23> leo_rockw thanks going to read
[04:25] <dem0nk> i did use partition magic no go
[04:25] <mountainma1> bazhang --ya, they never work, tons of errors.
[04:25] <bazhang> dem0nk: you need to unmount it first
[04:25] <dem0nk> how does it mount if i'm using a bootable cd
[04:25] <Mitch__> Hi, I'm having a huge issue installing Linux... Every .iso i get from the ubuntu site is always messed up somehow
[04:25] <iamphi> genii: i could pipe all that output into rm ???
[04:25] <lucy> selamat soang
[04:25] <decay> !codec
[04:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:25] <bazhang> mountainma1: the iso are corrupt? as in iso do not match md5 sum?
[04:25] <omar_> How do I change the looks of the desktop panels?
[04:25] <Scunizi> Mitch__: you have to burn it s.l.o.w. 4x or so
[04:25] <leo_rockw> style23: i found this for feisty: http://www.deepakg.com/blog/archives/39.htm
[04:25] <Mitch__> no they match
[04:25] <agilman> What package do I need to install to have section 2 man pages?
[04:25] <Mitch__> then something comes up about it's missing a file or another
[04:26] <Mitch__> even the CD check on the CD comes out clean
[04:26] <genii> iamphi: No, don't do that.
[04:26] <Scunizi> Mitch__: silly question.. are you burning it as an image or data?
[04:26] <CorbinFox> hyperstream: just an update, the LiveCD didn't show the error.  I am guessing that it is something installed.  Thanks for the help troubleshooting
[04:26] <igormorgado> when I open my gnome-session my mouse starts to be slow, I have to run xset m 2 to make it usable  ,  trying to set ip up on mouse properties do not work, the slide bar to not accept any changes. Anyone ssen that?
[04:26] <Mitch__> Image
[04:26] <dem0nk> well any idea's?  booting partition magic from a bootcd.  so how would it mount the drive
[04:26] <jpastore> Is there a program that can import a directory of images with several layers of directories beneath it so that you can quickly scan through them...I have 1000's of photos I need to sort
[04:26] <mountainma1> bazhang: when i do md5sum -c --it says all files can't be read
[04:26] <bazhang> Mitch__: what error message? what exact files are missing
[04:26] <Mitch__> lemme look
[04:26] <Scunizi> jpastore: fspot does ok
[04:26] <bazhang> mountainma1: then it is corrupt
[04:27] <jpastore> hmm I'll give that a shot thanks
[04:27] <mountainma1> bazhang: i tried from several different country locations....i don't understand why these would all be corrupt
[04:27] <lucy> can u help me
[04:27] <hyperstream> CorbinFox:  no worries
[04:27] <jpastore> Scunizi, that's not in synaptic...you have a link for  a .deb?
[04:27] <bazhang> hard to say mountainma1; try get via torrent perhaps
[04:28] <lucy> why to make proxy server in ubuntu..?
[04:28] <mountainma1> bazhang...ahh, good idea. thanks.  guess i'll try that.  good think i've got two systems to work on a home.  grrr....
[04:28] <iamphi> genii: thanks for the tip.  i did not used rm one dpkg's output, but i used it with 'apt-get remove' and i think it's looking better
[04:28] <Mitch__> Well it wont let me reinstall says the HDD is fragged
[04:28] <Evil_inside> hola
[04:29] <genii> !paste | iamphi in case you don't know about pastebin. Run again the command: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache apache2 libapache2-mod-php5          and then copy what it tells you there into the pastebin
[04:29] <ubotu> iamphi in case you don't know about pastebin. Run again the command: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache apache2 libapache2-mod-php5          and then copy what it tells you there into the pastebin: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[04:29] <bazhang> Mitch__: this is a dual boot?
[04:29] <spork969> is there a way to do a search by file type? like, lets say i wanted to find all the jpg files on my hard drive. how would i do that?
[04:29] <leo_rockw> hello Evil_inside
[04:29] <Evil_inside> :)
[04:29] <Mitch__> Well it was an attempt
[04:29] <leo_rockw> spork969: i use locate
[04:29] <Mitch__> seems XP pro hates me
[04:29] <sCOTTo> Mitch__: whats the prob ?
[04:30] <bazhang> Mitch__: I dont use windows but have heard others suggest you first defrag in windows then try again
[04:30] <iamphi> genii: it says none of those pkg were installed
[04:30] <leo_rockw> spork969: but i think there's an indexing gui in gnome
[04:30] <spork969> leo_rockw, locate is a ______
[04:30] <genii> iamphi: Please don't improvise with something like piping output of the command to rm or such. This only is listing any rferences at all to apache in any installed packages in your system. Some of them may still be important and mostly unrelated to any problem you are having with apache specifically.
[04:30] <leo_rockw> spork969: locate is 1337
[04:31] <iamphi> genii: i think my system is cleaned up.  i am reboot just in case.
[04:31] <leo_rockw> spork969: you need to update the locate db, tho
[04:31] <Mitch__> I try to install Ubuntu 7.10 and when it gets to where it makes the partition for Linux (i opened up space for it to by reinstalling Windows) it gave me a message (didn't write it down sorry) about how it wouldn't continue
[04:31] <spork969> leo_rockw, im afraid that doesnt help me too much
[04:31] <leo_rockw> spork969: sudo updatedb
[04:31] <Mitch__> And Windows had been dfragged
[04:31] <leo_rockw> spork969: and try agin
[04:31] <leo_rockw> again*
[04:31] <auronoir> I need a bit of help... I couldn't find this info in the man pages.. I'm trying to mirror the contents of a directory to my ftp server but I don't want it to create the same source directory name.. I want only the contents of it uploaded (files and subfolders).. What command should I type for that?
[04:31] <style23> leo_rockw http://www.nino-net.org/2008/02/29/moon-use-silverlight-plugin-in-ubuntu-710/
[04:32] <_elemental> ^^
[04:32] <bazhang> Mitch__: this is the live cd? any clue what the error message was? that is crucial if we are to offer credible advice here
[04:32] <Gaspipe> hey all
[04:32] <style23> leo_rockw thanks for everything
[04:32] <leo_rockw> style23: :-D
[04:32] <Johnny_5> how do i get a program completely out of my system?
[04:32] <arooni-mobile> how do i get privoxy working?
[04:32] <Mitch__> I know, sadly i don't. it was about how something couldn't be copied over, and no it was the text based installation
[04:32] <leo_rockw> Johnny_5: sudo apt-get remove --purge programname
[04:32] <Gaspipe> just curious... i have dual boot xp and ubuntu, seems space for ubuntu ran out on my hdd. and now can't start
[04:32] <Johnny_5> thanx
[04:32] <genii> Johnny_5: To a large degree it depends how you got the program into your system
[04:33] <leo_rockw> Johnny_5: actually, genii is right on that.
[04:33] <bazhang> Mitch__: well that is too bad; you might consider wubi in the meantime--unless you want to try again and get the error results to us
[04:33] <leo_rockw> Johnny_5: if you used aptitude you might want to uninstall with aptitude, for example
[04:33] <Mitch__> I need to reinstall XP. So i'm gonna need to =/
[04:34] <lucy> #ubuntu-info
[04:34] <arooni-mobile> privoxy isnt working on ubuntu!!!!!!!!  please help!  i've tried installing it from source, installing it from a package, and setting up the config file as i'm suppposed to... even after starting it;  ps -lA | ack privoxy  yields nothing :(
[04:34] <Gaspipe> anyway of expanding it... or should I just reformat the whole HDD and repartition it
[04:34] <Mitch__> Thank you for your support, Sorry for not having enough information, Could you give me a good Mirror that you know works form the nbuntu site please?
[04:34] <Johnny_5> i downloaded it fron the net then @ a later time used wget
[04:34] <auronoir> I'm trying to upload a directory to my ftp with lftp.. i tried mirror -R auronoir /, mirror -R auronoir ., mirror -R auronoir ~.. None of them work.. How do I upload to the root directory of my ftp?
[04:34] <mohadib> arooni-mobile lol
[04:34] <leo_rockw> Mitch__: have you tried torrents?
[04:34] <zero88> HELP!! Everytime i tried to rmmod ndiswrapper or apt-get remove ndiswrapper my comp freezez up. at least the terminal does. What gives?
[04:34] <arooni-mobile> mohadib, im at my wits end man
[04:34] <Mitch__> No i have not, My torrent PC is the one that i am working on haha........
[04:35] <Johnny_5> now i need to get everything of vmware off my comp or it won't run the installer
[04:35] <genii> Johnny_5: If you installed by running some executable from a website, consider running it again to see if it has some Uninstall feature. If you installed by ./configure-make-sudo make install way   then consider to do: make clean
[04:35] <leo_rockw> Mitch__: with the torrents you can be sure there's no corruption. and try the md5 checksum too
[04:35] <Mitch__> Alright, are there torrents on the ubuntu site?
[04:35] <bazhang> Mitch__: a download mirror for the iso? you should be able to choose a mirror at the download link (best to choose a close one)
[04:35] <leo_rockw> Johnny_5: that's make uninstall
[04:36] <matooke> looking for free news servers...anyone?
[04:36] <Johnny_5> k
[04:36] <genii> leo_rockw: As a sidenote, not all makefiles have uninstall. make clean or make dist-clean works on almost every makefile
[04:36] <bazhang> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ here Mitch__
[04:36] <Mitch__> thank you very much
[04:37] <Gaspipe> regarding dual boots id it easier to install xp first or ubuntu?
[04:37] <bazhang> matooke: outside of the scope of this channel
[04:37] <bazhang> xp first Gaspipe
[04:37] <Mitch__> that answers my second question
[04:37] <amenado> arooni-mobile-> may i suggest tar to archive it ?
[04:37] <leo_rockw> genii: i thought make clean was to delete all make install generated files that weren't needed anymore.
[04:37] <Gaspipe> bazhang: ty
[04:37] <auronoir> I need a bit of help... I couldn't find this info in the man pages.. I'm trying to mirror the contents of a directory to my ftp server but I don't want it to create the same source directory name.. I want only the contents of it uploaded (files and subfolders).. What command should I type for that?
[04:37] <bazhang> http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed_first.htm Gaspipe
[04:38] <arooni-mobile> amenado, huh??
[04:38] <snoyberg> I had a completely working system, until I physically moved it to a different location. Now it's able to connect to my router, but not to the internet. I know it's a problem with routes, but I can't figure it out. Anyone care to assist? Thank you.
[04:38] <amenado> arooni-mobile-> yes..tar to archive and then transfer the tar file to your ftp server
[04:38] <threedb> anyone know the default login for VMWare server 2.0 beta?
[04:39] <genii> leo_rockw: Make clean usually removes all object files prior to recreating them (when called as first step in make or make install). Which works out effectively to make uninstall
[04:39] <arooni-mobile> amenado, for what purpose?
[04:39] <Pelo> auronoir, have you looked into rsync ?
[04:39] <bazhang> amenado: that is auronoir
[04:39] <amenado> arooni-mobile-> forget it, you asked and im giving you answer
[04:39] <arooni-mobile> amendim trying to see how that will help though ?
[04:39] <amenado> okay, my fault,
[04:40] <auronoir> bazhang what?
[04:40] <amenado> auronoir-> ..tar to archive and then transfer the tar file to your ftp server
[04:40] <auronoir> Pelo mmm no.. i had been using lftp till now.. it's not possible to do it without it?
[04:40] <auronoir> hmm
[04:40] <leo_rockw> genii: didn't know that, thank you.
[04:40] <harveyd> hardy heron looks really really good
[04:40] <bazhang> auronoir: just redirecting nicks
[04:40] <genii> leo_rockw: np
[04:41] <c0Ld> I've got two X servers running -- what's the command to close just one of them? (It's server '1' if it matters)
[04:41] <Gaspipe> bazhang: ty!
[04:41] <amenado> snoyberg-> paste your ifconfig; and route -n results
[04:41] <bazhang> np ;]
[04:41] <Pelo> auronoir, I was reading about rsync earlier to do someting else,  it's to sync folder and files over a network
[04:42] <harveyd> quick question, im guessing if I want to run osx etc inside ubuntu I should be using kvm
[04:42] <auronoir> amenado; so that's the only way to do it? I mean normal ftp clients can upload it without taring
[04:42] <harveyd> any recommended guides for doing so?
[04:42] <snoyberg> amenado: i'm on a different system so i can't copy-and-paste, but here's the gist:
[04:42] <amenado> auronoir-> no its not the only way,
[04:42] <snoyberg> amenado: eth0 is 192.168.0.102 (as it was before)
[04:43] <auronoir> amenado: what should I put for the source directory if it's to the root directory of my ftp? I tried / but it's trying mkdir /
[04:43] <snoyberg> amenado: all three routes to eth0, dests are 192.168.0.0/24, 169.254.0.0/16, 0.0.0.0/0
[04:43] <amenado> snoyberg-> incomplete info...what about route -n ?
[04:44] <amenado> auronoir-> with tar?
[04:44] <auronoir> no, with lftp
[04:44] <snoyberg> amenado: the reason i know it's internet and not LAN is that ping 192.168.0.1 (the router) works, whereas ping 64.233.167.99 (google) doesn't work
[04:44] <amenado> auronoir-> im not familiar with lftp..
[04:44] <snoyberg> amenado: and i'm on my wife's laptop going through the same router
[04:44] <auronoir> :S
[04:45] <amenado> snoyberg-> incomplete info...what about route -n ?
[04:46] <amenado> snoyberg-> use your laptop's web browser to paste then, you can certainly retype it right?
[04:46] <Kain> hi, guis!
[04:47] <leo_rockw> greetings Kain
[04:47] <Kain> anybody run Ubuntu on Asus X50N\F5N laptop ??
[04:47] <keram> hello
[04:47] <leo_rockw> !anybody | Kain
[04:47] <ubotu> Kain: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:47] <keram> i am trying to use thinkpad-keys
[04:48] <bazhang> Kain: is that your real question?
[04:48] <keram> so i have loaded the nvram module with modprobe nvram
[04:48] <bpd1069>  /exit
[04:48] <igormorgado> when I open my gnome-session my mouse starts to be slow, I have to run xset m 2 to make it usable  ,  trying to set ip up on mouse properties do not work, the slide bar to not accept any changes. Anyone ssen that?
[04:48] <keram> and set the permissions correctly i think
[04:48] <keram> but when i try to run thinkpad-keys i get the error:
[04:48] <keram> Cannot open /dev/input/uinput: No such file or directory
[04:48] <keram> Could not open uinput device: Bad file descriptor
[04:48] <rjonesx> what would make a program crash when opened from a shortcut icon, but not when run directly from the console? if I type in sudo miro it works, if I run it from the applications > sound & video > miro icon, it crashes
[04:48] <keram> does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:49] <leo_rockw> rjonesx: what happens if you don't use sudo?
[04:49] <ChaOS211> any of you have any good suggestions on how i should partition a 250gb for ubuntu?
[04:49] <Pelo> rjonesx, the short cut in the menu probably isn'T setup to run as root,  add gksu to the launcher , using the main menu editor in the prefs menu
[04:49] <bazhang> ChaOS211: single boot?
[04:49] <palomer_> hello, no sound comes out when I try to play music
[04:49] <sudobash> so i just installed 8.04 and i like it but do i want to install these 475 updates or is it going to screw everything up?
[04:50] <harveyd> if egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo  gives me nothing, does it mean I am screwed in terms of getting kvm working?
[04:50] <Pelo> !sound | palomer_
[04:50] <ubotu> palomer_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:50] <ChaOS211> bazhang well im dual booting but windows will be on a seprate drive
[04:50] <jrib> rjonesx, Pelo: but miro shouldn't be run as root
[04:50] <ChaOS211> but yes single boot
[04:51] <rjonesx> Pelo: thanks, but I need a tiny bit more instruction - gksu? i see miro %f as the command run... how do i change that?
[04:51] <bazhang> ChaOS211: you want a seperate /home? how much ram btw
[04:51] <Pelo> jrib, read his comment,  it works for him when he runs it cli with sudo but not form the menu , I just went for the quck answer
[04:51] <Tann> Hello everyone.
[04:51] <decay> Hey Guys. there was a compiz update and now my borders aren't showing. any thoughts?
[04:51] <jrib> Pelo: it's a media player...
[04:51] <Tann> I was wondering, is there a way to (i guess it would be called) broadcast what you are listening to to a webpage so that others can stream it?
[04:51] <Pelo> rjonesx, try this ,  just type miro in the terminal see what error msg you get
[04:51] <kindofabuzz> where are the choices for login stored? like gnome, xfce,kde
[04:51] <leo_rockw> ChaOS211: you do want a separate ~
[04:52] <auronoir> what is the root directory called in an ftp server?
[04:52] <Kain> leo_rockw, with kernel version 2,6,24-14 reboot \ swutdown does not work (but suspend\hibernate work fine), i update kernel to 2,6,24-16 and now suspend\hibernate and reboot does not work. Shutdown now work
[04:52] <Pelo> rjonesx, try removinig the %f from the command in the menu , that's probably the problem
[04:52] <leo_rockw> ChaOS211: i have 15gb for / 2gb for swap, all the rest goes for ~
[04:52] <ChaOS211> bazhang, yeah i was thinking about making 50gb /root and the remaining on /home partition incase i ever brake it and i can save my configs but i have 2gb ddr2 800
[04:53] <leo_rockw> ChaOS211: i have 2gb of ram and i barely use the 2gb swap. but i figured it would be better to have those 2gb of swap just in case
[04:53] <ChaOS211> leo_rockw yea i agree
[04:54] <leo_rockw> ChaOS211: my hd is 120gb, btw
[04:54] <auronoir> !lftp
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lftp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <kindofabuzz> i have two xfce entries in gdm, how can i fix that?
[04:54] <auronoir> !ftp
[04:54] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[04:54] <rjonesx> Pelo: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so [/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so [/usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so: undefined symbol: __gxx_personality_v0]
[04:55] <Pelo> rjonesx, how did you install miro ?
[04:55] <rjonesx> Pelo: Im on an AMD64, so I am used to everything going foobar
[04:55] <rjonesx> synaptic
[04:56] <Pelo> rjonesx, that's over my head sorry,  I can'T help you with this
[04:56] <Kain> !F5N
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about f5n - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <Kain> !Asus
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about asus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <bazhang> ChaOS211: 50GB for / seems excessive; the entire ubuntu repo is 45GB ;]
[04:56] <gort42> aurinoir:  what do you mean what is the root dir called in an ftp server?  my guess would be the root...can you be more specific?
[04:56] <rjonesx> Pelo: thx for the effort :)
[04:56] <rjonesx> much appreciated
[04:56] <rjonesx> gonna try to just uninstall reinstall real fast.
[04:56] <ChaOS211> my systems a 64 x2 5600 / 2gb 6400 ddr2 800 / I have two 250gb sata drives but i haven't ran ubuntu since edgy because my old computer died
[04:56] <leo_rockw> bazhang: he might need a huge /tmp :-P
[04:56] <ChaOS211> lol bazhang
[04:56] <bazhang> leo_rockw: haha
[04:57] <auronoir> what is the root directory called in an ftp server? / ~/ and ~ does not work
[04:57] <bazhang> ChaOS211: let me know your repos name I will add it to my sources.list ;]
[04:57] <ChaOS211> lol
[04:58] <Kain> auronoir, /var/ftp btw
[04:58] <gort42> auronoir: your asking how to address the path of the root directory available to you during an ftp server?
[04:58] <auronoir> gort42 yes
[04:58] <decay> auronoir: try /sitename.com/
[04:58] <gort42> auronoir: ftp session I mean
[04:59] <hyperstream> why wont multiple sound requiring applications work at the same time, why does a application using ALSA driver lock the sound card? how can i have xmms running while world of warcraft is in cedega- its using alsa too
[04:59] <auronoir> decay that didn't work
[04:59] <gort42> auronoir: depends on the ftp server and its configuration
[04:59] <auronoir> so how do I find that
[04:59] <sudobash> hyperstream minimize xmms
[04:59] <auronoir> I need to upload my files
[04:59] <dmsuperman> in XChat, how can I define certain channels and servers to open on startup?
[04:59] <sudobash> it uses less ram
[05:00] <sudobash> you can also change priority of the processes
[05:00] <gort42> auronoir: try absolute path or fqdn /path/for/ftp
[05:00] <gort42> auronoir: is this for a webhost?
[05:00] <tomd123> does anyone what the program is called that is able to put any program into the icon tray in gnome?
[05:00] <auronoir> gort42 absolute path?
[05:00] <auronoir> gort42: yes
[05:00] <mactimes> Hi.  I'm facing issues with enigmail+gpg.   It says it can't query passphrase in batch mode.  It started happening when I asked to clear saved passphrases.  Any help is very welcome.
[05:00] <sudobash> like bump WoW and XMMS up one level both
[05:01] <sudobash> so they are on the same level but above everything else
[05:01] <hyperstream> sudobash: it says: sound card could be locked by another application ?
[05:01] <gort42> auronoir: usually the host will give you a specific path to upload you files to.   look through documentation
[05:01] <bullgard4> gnome-doc-utils comprises several files which contain 'admon' in its name. What does 'admon' stand for?
[05:01] <sudobash> oh yeah... you will have to start up Wow first and then XMMS... or maybe it is XMMS first
[05:01] <auronoir> gort42: I want to upload my files to the ftp.. I tried mirror -R <local folder name> /domain.com/ but it's trying mkdir /domain.com/
[05:01] <sudobash> one of the two
[05:01] <tomd123> nvm, it's called alltray if anyone wants to know
[05:01] <moonlight> hey, i have a wireless problem
[05:01] <TWP-SirStaal> Hello. Lately my firefox has closed itself down without my "approval", someone know what the cause might be?
[05:02] <moonlight> Ubuntu recongizes i have wireless but it wont recognize any wireless networks near me
[05:02] <sudobash> TWP... bugs
[05:02] <sudobash> upgrade your firefox
[05:02] <gort42> auronoir: yeah you have to look at how your host sets up its directory structure for web and ftp
[05:02] <sudobash> what version of ubuntu TWP?
[05:02] <auronoir> gort42: Hmm but normal ftp clients can do it... i'm trying with lftp
[05:02] <TWP-SirStaal> 7.1
[05:02] <hyperstream> TWP-SirStaal:  mine has been doing that lately on windoze
[05:03] <sudobash> TWP go ahead an upgrade to 8.04 it looks pretty stable to me for regular use
[05:03] <sudobash> but i havent updated yet... actually i disabled updates for a minute
[05:03] <moonlight> can anyone help me with my wireless problem
[05:03] <sudobash> because everything is working
[05:03] <TWP-SirStaal> firefox or ubuntu hyper?
[05:04] <hyperstream> firefox
[05:04] <sudobash> 8.04 will carry over all your data just dont format the partition
[05:04] <sudobash> do Manual partitioning
[05:05] <Tann> I was wondering, is there a program to (i guess it would be called) broadcast what you are listening to to a webpage so that others can stream it?
[05:05] <gort42> auronoir: lftp should work it just allows multiple ways to transfer files besides ftp.  You'll need to tweak you lftp.conf to meet what your host is looking for
[05:06] <sudobash> Tann have you ever heard of Pandora... not exactly the same thing but it is constant streaming audip
[05:06] <sudobash> audio
[05:06] <sudobash> through browser
[05:06] <auronoir> hmm
[05:06] <auronoir> strange
[05:06] <gort42> Pandora is an awesome site btw....I have several stations setup through there
[05:07] <moonlight> Hey, how do i get my wireless to recognize my wireless networks
[05:07] <RainMakesMeWet> There is even a pandora plugin for avant window navigator too
[05:07] <Pelo> g'night folks
[05:08] <harveyd> if egrep ‘(vmx|svm)’ /proc/cpuinfo outputs nothing
[05:08] <hnvs> hello
[05:08] <decay> Hey Guys. there was a compiz update and now my borders aren't showing. any thoughts?
[05:08] <harveyd> do I have to go for vmware or something  to get windows running under ubuntu?
[05:10] <gort42> harveyd: what are you specifically trying to do?
[05:10] <gort42> harveyd: run one app?  use wine if it will work
[05:10] <sudobash> how do i get my nvidia drivers working in 8.04 the Restricted Driver Manager worked in 7.10
[05:10] <sudobash> is it any different?
[05:11] <leo_rockw> sudobash: you'll have better luck in #ubuntu+1
[05:11] <lucy> hai guys
[05:11] <lucy> can help me plz
[05:11] <harveyd> test websites in ie under xp / vista and safari osx
[05:12] <harveyd> without dual booting
[05:12] <travisat> harveyd: you can run qemu without virtualization support
[05:12] <gort42> harveyd: what travista said
[05:12] <harveyd> thanks
[05:12] <travisat> harveyd: what is your cpu?
[05:13] <sudobash> firefox runs on OSX also
[05:13] <l23twire> is it true that mac stole linux codes and made it better?
[05:13] <travisat> mac didn't steal anything
[05:13] <leo_rockw> l23twire: no
[05:13] <gort42> mac uses a freebsd kernel
[05:13] <l23twire> mac is just like linux..
[05:14] <harveyd> intel i think
[05:14] <travisat> its called open source for a reason...
[05:14] <leo_rockw> l23twire: mac has a freebsd kernel
[05:14] <harveyd> I actually dont know, this isnt my comp
[05:14] <l23twire> leo_rockw oh.. so.. they did stole it and made it better..
[05:14] <leo_rockw> l23twire: nothing was stolen
[05:14] <l23twire> and put a huge price on it..
[05:14] <sudobash> yeah i put debian on an iMac 233 256MB
[05:14] <sudobash> it ran much nicer than OSX
[05:14] <sudobash> but OSX wasnt bad
[05:14] <sudobash> for 233
[05:15] <leo_rockw> harveyd: btw, you might want to take a look at browsershots.org
[05:15] <travisat> harveyd: ah well kvm is like 100 times better then qemu by itself so if you could get virtualization support to work it is worth it
[05:15] <gort42> with mac you pay for pretty
[05:15] <leo_rockw> harveyd: it might complement what you need
[05:15] <l23twire> people have OSX because people made it open sources.. by hacking and etc..
[05:15] <leo_rockw> l23twire: freebsd has a bsd license. it can be used in commercial apps.
[05:16] <harveyd> actually
[05:16] <harveyd> model name	: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+
[05:16] <leo_rockw> l23twire: in non free apps, i mean
[05:16] <hommeentete> can anyone give me a hand trying to figure out how to get this Seagate FreeAgent External hard drive working with my ubuntu?
[05:16] <Tanha> !ndiswrapper
[05:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:16] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: what happens when you plug it in?
[05:16] <l23twire> i still think l33twire.net has the best forum.. btw..
[05:16] <travisat> harveyd: hmm not an x2 I don't think regular 64 has it,  only am2 sockets on desktop cpus have it I think
[05:17] <hommeentete> I've formatted and partitioned it under ext3 and tried sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdc
[05:17] <amenado> travisat-> how about openvz is that any better?
[05:17] <travisat> amenado: never tried it
[05:17] <harveyd> leo_rockw: testing reasonably complex client applications, screenshots dont really help me much
[05:17] <leo_rockw> harveyd: ok
[05:17] <l23twire> ubuntu ftw!!
[05:17] <sudobash> I just got a BIOSTAR K8M800 with AM2 X2 support with just a sempron 3400+ but i am going to get an AMD X2 soon enough
[05:17] <leo_rockw> l23twire: spamming the channel is not cool.
[05:18] <suubpar> so when hardy is officially released, will gutsy automatically update to 8.04?
[05:18] <harveyd> trav, does that mean I should go try qemu?
[05:18] <sudobash> i got the MB and CPU together with a very nice case and awesome power supply with 4 plug in's for 150
[05:18] <bullgard4> gnome-doc-utils includes several files which contain 'admon' in its name. What does 'admon' stand for?
[05:18] <sudobash> 650 watt PS
[05:18] <travisat> harveyd: yah just for testing web pages it should work just fine
[05:18] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: after you plug the driver try dmesg | tail
[05:18] <l23twire> when will linux coders take a look on how mac games work.. so windows users quit their os..
[05:19] <leo_rockw> !offtopic | l23twire
[05:19] <ubotu> l23twire: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:19] <travisat> harveyd: if you don't care about safari ies4linux is good too
[05:20] <hommeentete> leo_rockw: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63250/
[05:20] <travisat> harveyd: you can run internet explorer in wine I believe, I have never tried it
[05:20] <harveyd> I never had much luck with wine or ie4linux
[05:20] <gort42> I have tried it...it works with IE6
[05:20] <sudobash> wine works for my needs...
[05:20] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: what's your ubuntu version?
[05:20] <sudobash> screw IE6
[05:20] <gort42> never tried 7
[05:21] <sudobash> i quit windows and it's apps to get away from the bugs
[05:21] <gort42> wine had an app db that should tell if it works or not
[05:21] <hommeentete> Desktop 7.10 I believe
[05:21] <sudobash> windows is like a bad drug
[05:21] <hommeentete> the latest
[05:21] <sudobash> ergot
[05:21] <gort42> http://appdb.winehq.org/
[05:22] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: mh... try the lsusb command
[05:22] <l23twire> I'm about to quit windows to ubuntu but! i'm a web dev.. and i'm not sure if ubuntu have the tools for my needs.. and photoshop and etc?? can anyone answer?
[05:22] <hyperstream> l23twire:  learn gimp
[05:22] <hyperstream> very powerful graphical tool
[05:22] <leo_rockw> l23twire: there's krita too
[05:22] <harveyd> inkscape is good
[05:23] <hommeentete> leo_rockw: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63251/
[05:23] <gort42> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=469
[05:23] <harveyd> gimp ive been disappointed with
[05:23] <manguy> i'm reading a book about apache and it mentions about running httpd -S to observe vhost configuations.  where can i find httpd on my ubuntu system?  i thought httpd was a conf file...
[05:23] <harveyd> and I never got ps running under wine or whatever it was nicely
[05:24] <harveyd> manguy: /etc/apache2
[05:24] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: was it working before you formatted to ext3?
[05:24] <elmer> how do I edit the cron file?
[05:24] <sudobash> l23twire gimp gpaint is all i need
[05:24] <sudobash> there are some other imaging apps though
[05:24] <sudobash> and web developing is easy if you know html
[05:25] <manguy> harveyd:  is there suppose to be an executable there?  like should i be able to do /etc/apache2/httpd -S ?
[05:25] <sudobash> and js
[05:25] <leo_rockw> elmer: crontab -e
[05:25] <elmer> leo_rockw, thanks
[05:25] <Piffer> what is the command to pick up an IP via DHCP?
[05:25] <leo_rockw> elmer: there's kcron if you're on kde
[05:25] <harveyd> no the conf files are in /etc/apache2
[05:25] <l23twire> sudobash i code in php and asp and html since 4..
[05:25] <hommeentete> leo_rockw:  Yea, it was sgi and I had it hooked up to an airport extreme which my macbook running tiger was able to access but i never tried to access it through ubuntu when it was set up like that
[05:25] <elmer> leo_rockw, if I want to run a shell script in my home folder, what line should I add?
[05:25] <elmer> leo_rockw, nope, GNOME for me, but would KCron work with GNOME?
[05:26] <leo_rockw> elmer: i don't see why not
[05:26] <manguy> harveyd: right, what does this mean exactly then "It is particularly instructive to run httpd -S and observe the virtual host configuration as Apache understands it"
[05:26] <elmer> leo_rockw, sudo apt-getting it now
[05:26] <leo_rockw> elmer: :-D
[05:26] <platyhelminth> How to install a .deb which was made for debien ?
[05:26] <platyhelminth> debian
[05:26] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: my external drive is on fat.
[05:27] <dmsuperman> platyhelminth, just run it
[05:27] <Nith> dpkg -i something.deb me thinks
[05:27] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: apparently ubuntu is having a problem with your hd being on ext3
[05:27] <|ns|nR8> platyhelminth, try sudo dpkg -i filename
[05:27] <platyhelminth> ok
[05:27] <l23twire> is it possible for me to install a slax package under ubuntu? i used to have backtrack.. and etc..
[05:27] <Zelta> does anyone respond to quesitons in #openoffice.org?
[05:27] <jrib> platyhelminth: what are you installing?
[05:27] <tyrone__>  Hello, I have found a bug in ubuntu's java or firefox packages (if java, it's all jdk's, so probably firefox 2-3). It has persisted from gutsy on, including the current beta. It seems like a java proxy issue, a stock app won't open external application windows for advanced functions. It randomly works after a half hour.
[05:27] <leo_rockw> l23twire: what do you mean by slax package? a module? and if so, which version?
[05:27] <harveyd> manguy: I dont know :P I cant see a httpd binary, I just edit the conf files in /etc and use apache2 -k restart to restart
[05:27] <hommeentete> leo_rockw:  what do you mean by fat.?  and I don't know why not, I was trying to follow a guide written by a guy hooking up another SeaGate FreeAgent External hard drive
[05:28] <elmer> leo_rockw, testing out KCron right now, but I have to wait until 9:30.
[05:28] <elmer> local time
[05:28] <manguy> harveyd: yeah me too haha, i have no idea what that sentence means.  thanks anyways though
[05:28] <UBUNTUJAY123> what is better web browser besides firfox for ubuntu
[05:28] <leo_rockw> UBUNTUJAY123: i like konqueror
[05:28] <elmer> UBUNTUJAY123, if you don't mind using KDE apps, konqueror is good
[05:28] <elmer> dang
[05:28] <travisat> UBUNTUJAY123: I like firefox but opera is nice too
[05:28] <elmer> leo_rockw beat me to it
[05:28] <sudobash> slackware and debian are the best distros out i think...
[05:28] <manguy> but i'm trying to figure out vhosts and a command that would tell me the configuration as apache sees it would be really helpful i think
[05:28] <jrib> platyhelminth: you can't just install random debian debs on ubuntu
[05:29] <Robbie_Crash> I'm getting Grub error 17, and I'm in menu.lst and device.map and unsure of if I need to set menu.lst to look at my root partition for booting, or if I need it to look at my boot partition to load after grub has already started?
[05:29] <leo_rockw> UBUNTUJAY123: opera is good, but nonfree
[05:29] <sudobash> knoppix is nice and gentoo as well
[05:29] <dmsuperman> leo_rockw, it's free
[05:29] <dmsuperman> leo_rockw, and doesn't even have ads anymore
[05:29] <leo_rockw> dmsuperman: no, it's not
[05:29] <UBUNTUJAY123> firefox spikes my cpu usage reall high
[05:29] <sudobash> but OpenBSD is the fastest NIX OS
[05:29] <leo_rockw> dmsuperman: you're thinking free as in beer
[05:29] <dmsuperman> leo_rockw, not sure about open, but definitely free
[05:29] <jrib> !offtopic | sudobash
[05:29] <ubotu> sudobash: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:29] <leo_rockw> dmsuperman: what you call open, i call free. i'm stallmanian
[05:30] <l23twire> i host a local website on my pc.. to test my scripts and debug and etc.. is it easy to install a apache server with php and mysql app under ubuntu?
[05:30] <dmsuperman> well i'll stick with the normal english language version of the english words i use ;)
[05:30] <sudobash> yes is easy
[05:30] <Nith> l23twire: yes
[05:30] <sudobash> it is
[05:30] <Robbie_Crash> ugh, sorry, did anyone respond?
[05:30] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: i'm saying that my hd is in the fat file system. i never tried to format an external hd to ext
[05:31] <hyperstream> l23twire:  you should install a dual boot - so you can play with it until you are happy
[05:31] <leo_rockw> dmsuperman: free means more than one thing in english
[05:31] <l23twire> hyperstream good idea!
[05:31] <MrGnu> I am downloading Ubuntu 64, butt when I selectedthe
[05:31] <sudobash> check #grub Robbie
[05:31] <UBUNTUJAY123> isnt there one called swiftfox
[05:31] <UBUNTUJAY123> or something like that
[05:31] <dmsuperman> free doesn't mean that the source is available, that's pretty specific :P
[05:31] <hommeentete> leo_rockw:  I was using gparted to do that - is that one of the choices do you know?
[05:31] <MrGnu> Option it said amd, and im intel
[05:31] <travisat> swiftfox is just firefox recompiled
[05:32] <sudobash> swiftfox is firefox builds for specific CPU arch...
[05:32] <harveyd> theres the epiphony browser or something
[05:32] <bluefoxx> ok, so i havea traven reader and tapes for it, what do i need to read/write to them?
[05:32] <MrGnu> Am i ok?
[05:32] <sudobash> but sometimes it is not faster than firefox
[05:32] <harveyd> thats using webkit
[05:32] <leo_rockw> dmsuperman: free does mean that the program gives you freedom
[05:32] <cjae> hey I saw that non free flash plugin had an update was this only a security update? cause the adobe flash plugin still sucks here is my example http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/ the drop down flash menu still hides behind the main flash screen
[05:32] <jrib> MrGnu: why do you want 64 bit instead of 32bit?
[05:32] <dmsuperman> tomato tomahto, but i think open and free are entirely different words
[05:33] <leo_rockw> dmsuperman: they are
[05:33] <harveyd> libre
[05:33] <leo_rockw> dmsuperman: open source has no philosophy
[05:33] <l23twire> ahh.. i still remember the good old floppy days.. installing debian.. and waiting 2 hours+ to install and fix loads of bugs.. to get it working.. this feeling is what makes me go back to linux.. :D
[05:33] <leo_rockw> harveyd: yup, but that's not strict english :-D
[05:33] <MrGnu>  Was told that it would take full andvantage of my system rib
[05:33] <GRE1> i have utorrent configured great under wine but everytime i try to open a torrent from firefox i get cannot open Z:tmptorrent.torrent
[05:33] <harveyd> free as in beer :P
[05:33] <manguy> harveyd: in case you're curious, it was /usr/sbin/apache2ctl -S
[05:33] <GRE1> theres no slash before the torrent file like there should be can someone help me fix this
[05:34] <MrGnu> Or should I stick with 32?
[05:34] <MEtaLpREs> is the free flash player as good as the non-free one?  like is there stuff that doesnt work in the free one?
[05:34] <MrGnu> Any thoughts?
[05:34] <leo_rockw> MEtaLpREs: i'll be honest... no
[05:34] <leo_rockw> MEtaLpREs: youtube doesn't work, for instance
[05:34] <lucy> can help me plz
[05:34] <jrib> MrGnu: you should note that not all software is available on 64bit ubuntu.  To answer your original question, amd64 will work fine on your intel chip, it's just the name of the architecture.  However, if you are a new user, I'd strongly recommend you use the 32bit version
[05:34] <leo_rockw> MEtaLpREs: or it didn't work last time i tried.
[05:34] <jrib> MrGnu: You are unlikely to notice any performance benefits
[05:35] <andb> jrib: even if you are not new, I'd recommend 32 :)
[05:35] <v3trae> So i think OSS is being used instead of Alsa, I can only have one program using sound at a time. Any ideas on how to check/fix that?
[05:35] <dmsuperman> how can i associate a filetype with a windows program emulated in wine?
[05:35] <Ademan> so... does anyone have flash working with the firefox 3 beta in gutsy? cause i sure don't... lol
[05:35] <cocox_> Hi there guys, anybody knows a way to edit a mounted image in order to burn it again? i have mount an image an i can't edit it and neither let me change the permissions.... anyway i copy the mounted files, edit them and burn them again, but that is not the point i mean and also the burned CD haven't boot attributes....
[05:35] <bluefoxx> what do i need to bacckup directories to tape drives? i have a travan reader and a load of tr1s and a tr3 adn two tr4s. i want to backup my music to the tr4s, docs to the tr3 and misc photos to a tr1
[05:35] <leo_rockw> MEtaLpREs: unless you're an extreme freedom lover, you'll want adobe flash and not gnash/klash
[05:35] <sudobash> ademan i have it is 8.04
[05:36] <MEtaLpREs> yea i use the adobe one now, ive just never tried the free one so i didnt know what it could or couldnt do
[05:36] <sudobash> in 8.04*
[05:36] <Ademan> dmsuperman: just cook up a command, something like:   wine 'C:\Program Files\Program\Program Name.exe'
[05:36] <dmsuperman> Ademan, thanks :D
[05:36] <leo_rockw> MEtaLpREs: gnash is pretty much like adobe flash 7
[05:36] <leo_rockw> MEtaLpREs: adobe flash is in version 9 at the moment
[05:36] <Ademan> gnash is also getting better all the time
[05:36] <MrGnu> I was reading a comparidon ... And saw that.... I mean the 32 bit version will not make a difference for dual sli?
[05:36] <MEtaLpREs> leo_rockw: yea thats not going to work for me then, since so much stuff now requires the latest
[05:36] <Ademan> but yeah... gnash isn't a suitable replacement for most people yet
[05:37] <v3trae> So i think OSS is being used instead of Alsa, I can only have one program using sound at a time. Any ideas on how to check/fix that?
[05:37] <leo_rockw> MEtaLpREs: like Ademan said, gnash gets better everyday
[05:37] <l23twire> it's funny that.. windows channel has less users then ubuntu.. >.<!!
[05:37] <andb> MrGnu: 64 bit will help with stuff like database apps and stuff.
[05:37] <MEtaLpREs> its to bad adobe cant get the bugs under control,  they must just not be that concerned with linux
[05:37] <leo_rockw> l23twire: that's because you can't chat w/ a bsod
[05:37] <sudobash> because ubuntu is going to surpass windows
[05:38] <sudobash> it already has
[05:38] <leo_rockw> MEtaLpREs: yes, adobe flash for linux feels like a mediocre port
[05:38] <andb> MrGnu: for games or other workstation activities, memory, disk access, these are more important.
[05:38] <sudobash> i think
[05:38] <lnxnwbe> why does my computer harddrive get realy busy for a short time when i start ubuntu?
[05:38] <Ademan> v3trae: please don't repeat your questions so fast... but anyways... you need to give us more information, what programs in particular? since almost all programs use ALSA by default now, there's probably one program that uses OSS that screws things up for everyone else
[05:38] <sudobash> Dell has its eye on Linux and Linspire is working with Ubuntu now also
[05:38] <andb> ilnxnwbe: indexing.
[05:39] <hommeentete> leo_rockw:  using gparted here are my choices for setting a disklabel for it : msdos amiga bsd dvh gpt mac pc98 s390 sun loop
[05:39] <lnxnwbe> andb:oh
[05:39] <jrib> sudobash: stay on the topic of ubuntu support only.  For other discussions, use #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:39] <MEtaLpREs> i was so excited when the updated popped up a couple days ago and said there was a flash player update i thought maybe they finally fixed that problem with firefox freezing, unfortunately they let me down yet again
[05:39] <v3trae> Ademan: i wasn't sure if it went through, my internet is being Janky, my apologies. Anyway, i have pidgin, amarok and VLC running, if Pidgin is on, VLC wont have any sound, amarok will force sound if i open it after pidgin and open a new file, if i try to resume a song it wont play.
[05:39] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: what about vfat, fat16, fat32?
[05:39] <MrGnu> Well here is a question, I should see the difference then in the games?
[05:39] <hommeentete> nope
[05:39] <lnxnwbe> is there a defrag progy for ubuntu?
[05:39] <v3trae> Ademan: i'm a gentoo nut, i just converted to ubuntu and i'm trying to get my feet in the water >_<
[05:39] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: mmhh... that's weird.
[05:40] <jrib> !defrag | lnxnwbe
[05:40] <ubotu> lnxnwbe: The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[05:40] <sudobash> lnxnwbe no need to defrag
[05:40] <hommeentete> yea...  i did sudo apt-get install gparted
[05:40] <hommeentete> so it should be the latest version
[05:40] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: man mkfs.vfat
[05:40] <lnxnwbe> oh ok
[05:40] <cocox_> Hi there guys, anybody knows a way to edit a mounted image in order to burn it again? i have mount an image an i can't edit it and neither let me change the permissions.... anyway i copy the mounted files, edit them and burn them again, but that is not the point i mean and also the burned CD haven't boot attributes....
[05:40] <sudobash> hommeentete you might run into problems running gparted from an installed OS... try it from a Live cd...
[05:40] <Ademan> v3trae: wierd... well i'm pretty sure amarok has multiple output plugins, you might check the preferences to see which one's selected, but it definitely should default to alsa (maybe it's using aRTs or something dumb like that)
[05:41] <v3trae> Ademan: i'll take alook, give me just a second =)
[05:41] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: what sudobash means is that the drive should not be mounted when running gparted
[05:41] <Ademan> v3trae: i don't use amarok personally so i don't know exactly where in preferences it would be, but i can check where it would be in pidgin
[05:41] <sudobash> yes
[05:41] <leo_rockw> Ademan: amarok uses the xine engine by default
[05:41] <sudobash> ok...
[05:41] <hommeentete> leo_rockw: well that gives me the man page for mkdosfs
[05:42] <l23twire> i have a intresting question.. how does linux makes money? i mean.. look at mac.. running BSD.. and making millions.. not fair..
[05:42] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: that's what fat is
[05:42] <sudobash> linux documentation... books
[05:42] <Ademan> v3trae: so pidgin's sound plugin is under tools->preferences on the buddy list, then you click on sounds, and it's the "method" combo box
[05:42] <leo_rockw> !offtopic | l23twire
[05:42] <ubotu> l23twire: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:42] <sudobash> and cd sets
[05:42] <hommeentete> leo_rockw: well if fat =msdos then I should just select msdos for a disklabel and be fine
[05:42] <Werdna> hi, I'm having trouble with tcpdump AND wireshark. Both of them will only capture traffic where the SOURCE is the local box (i.e. I don't get the replies). I'm running as root (otherwise I can't capture at all).
[05:43] <andb> how about: linux makes money by streamlining IT processes for businesses all over the world.
[05:43] <andb> the question wasnt asked - who's getting the money.
[05:43] <sudobash> Werdna... try Back|Track 3... might have better luck
[05:43] <andb> Look at it as saved money
[05:43] <harveyd> giving ie4linux another shot
[05:43] <v3trae> Ademan: when forced to Alsa, amarok says no driver loaded, do i need to install alsa manually with a new ubuntu install?
[05:43] <andb> harveyd: if you really need ie, try vmware server and xp guest...
[05:44] <bluefoxx> anyone know anything about tape drives and backing up to them?
[05:44] <sudobash> so corporations can make money off of free open source software... anyone....
[05:44] <Werdna> sudobash: that's just another distro.
[05:44] <Ademan> v3trae: definitely not, i say leave it on the xine engine, pidgin defaults to "auto detect" maybe it's choosing oss
[05:44] <harveyd> and, thanks
[05:44] <Werdna> I don't want another distro, I want a working wireshark.
[05:44] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: i didn't see msdos on that other list, i was looking for fat.
[05:44] <v3trae> Ademan: if i switch pidgin to ALSA i don't get an error, but i loose sound completely
[05:44] <andb> sudobash: become a linux consultant,  see if you can make some moeny :)
[05:44] <hommeentete> what does this mean --  I enter mount /dev/sdc and get mount: can't find /dev/sdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:44] <bluefoxx> Werdna: are you running wireshark as root?
[05:44] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: i'm not saying this would make your hd work. i'm just saying that mine works as fat
[05:45] <Ademan> v3trae: have you tried restarting pidgin afterwards?
[05:45] <sudobash> im sure you can... i dont know enough to do that though... i wish....
[05:45] <v3trae> Ademan: yes
[05:45] <kreativefinally> quick question, how can i go about restoring my ubuntu installation to its orginoal state from the cd.
[05:45] <Ademan> v3trae: wierd, i wonder if your alsa device is screwed up
[05:45] <hommeentete> leo_rockw: do you have fat 16 or fat 32
[05:45] <leo_rockw> kreativefinally: fresh install?
[05:45] <kreativefinally> i dont want to install though
[05:45] <v3trae> Ademan: possibly, it's an external USB device, i'll monkey with it, thank you for your help =)
[05:45] <dmsuperman> leo_rockw, isn't the fs for msdos fat16?
[05:45] <Werdna> bluefoxx: yes.
[05:45] <sudobash> kreativefinally... install from cd but dont format and it will carry over your files
[05:46] <kreativefinally> i dont know where my disk is at and im in a rush dont want to download another
[05:46] <leo_rockw> dmsuperman: yes
[05:46] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: h/o lemme plug it in
[05:46] <Ademan> v3trae: sorry i couldn't be of more help, good luck lol
[05:46] <sudobash> but will install all system files over again
[05:46] <kreativefinally> i dont want to carry over files.
[05:46] <bluefoxx> Werdna: ell, thats all i could suggest...
[05:46] <hommeentete> leo_rockw: it will let me format as those but not set a disklabel - do i need to set a disklabel?
[05:46] <v3trae> Ademan: one other quest.
[05:46] <v3trae> Ademan: question
[05:46] <sudobash> it will carry over just your docs and desktop items
[05:46] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: not really
[05:46] <sudobash> or just format and dont ask those kinds of questions
[05:46] <sudobash> complete reinstall
[05:47] <v3trae> Ademan: when i switch Ubuntu itself under preferences to Alsa i get Audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512! audioconvert ! audioresample! gconfaudiosink: Could not open resource for writing
[05:47] <v3trae> Ademan: if i leave it on USB Audio, it works fine. But i have a feeling it's defaulting that to OSS
[05:47] <kreativefinally> dont have my disk. and dont want to fresh install
[05:47] <SeaPhor> I put my /Home on a different HD, then i dont worry about probs and when i want to upgrade i do a fresh install
[05:47] <superactive> Hello guys, how do I kill X so I can install my graphicard drivers? -- prv msg me
[05:47] <Ademan> v3trae: O_o lol
[05:47] <sudobash> well i guess you could do a net install... i know debian had is
[05:47] <sudobash> ubuntu is based on debian
[05:47] <leo_rockw> superactive: sudo killall gdm if you're using gnome
[05:48] <Ademan> v3trae: unfortunately aside from using aoss my experience troubleshooting sound is rather limited...
[05:48] <superactive> ok
[05:48] <sudobash> has it*
[05:48] <v3trae> Ademan: rofl K, i guess i'm screwed =P not i just gotta get Amarok working again, it REALLY didn't like being loaded into alsa drivers
[05:48] <v3trae> Ademan: no problem man, i appreciate the effort
[05:48] <v3trae> See you all later
[05:48] <sudobash> alright lets see what these 465 updates did damage wise....
[05:49] <hommeentete> leo_rockw: so I got it to format to fat32 (fat16 said the maximum size was 4 gb and this is a 250 gb external hard drive) but again when I run mount /dev/sdc it says mount: can't find /dev/sdc in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:49] <bruno> ubunto do brasil, alguem me fale qual é?
[05:49] <kreativefinally> hm ok
[05:49] <YuriQ> any java  programmers using eclipse: how do you skin your eclipse under Ubuntu? I am having difficulty seeing the source code markers
[05:49] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: you have to sudo it
[05:49] <bruno> lucretia: hello
[05:49] <jrib> !br | bruno
[05:49] <ubotu> bruno: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[05:50] <hommeentete> leo_rockw: tried it agian with sudo and got the same error message
[05:50] <YuriQ> !eclipse
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <kreativefinally> ah
[05:51] <kreativefinally> found my 7.04 disk
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> is there a way to completely kill gnome-panel?
[05:51] <kreativefinally> is that sufficient to bring my ubuntu back to its origional state
[05:51] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: what command are you using exactly?
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> every time i attempt to, it relaunches
[05:51] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: sudo mount /dev/sdc ?
[05:52] <jrib> Daisuke_Ido: tell it not to relaunch in system -> preferences -> session -> current session
[05:52] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: unless /dev/sdc is in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab you have to tell mount where you want the device mounted
[05:52] <kreativefinally> Would I be able to update my ubuntu from 7.04 to 7.10 with just the update manager?
[05:52] <hommeentete> leo_rockw:  tried that and got the same thing
[05:52] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: something like sudo mount /dev/sdc /media/HD
[05:52] <hommeentete> leo_rockw:  OOHHH
[05:52] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: make sure /media/HD exists
[05:52] <matt_> All inbound traffic is blocked and I have cleared the firewall and don't know why it is still doing it
[05:52] <unop_> hommeentete, what does 'sudo fdisk -l' list?
[05:53] <matt_> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[05:53] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: you could still format it to ext3 then.
[05:53] <Daisuke_Ido> jrib, thank you
[05:53] <sudobash> cool the updates didnt break anything and it fixed the nvidia driver... 8.04 rocks and it is using firefox 3.05b
[05:53] <unop_> hommeentete, and you need to mount a specific partition device - /dev/sda1  instead of the entire block device - /dev/sda
[05:53] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: but window$ comps won't read it.
[05:53] <kreativefinally> bummer.
[05:53] <superactive> Hello again
[05:53] <superactive> It worked to shutdown X
[05:53] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: unop_ is right.
[05:53] <superactive> but then I got this error message : You do not appear to have libc header files installed on your system.
[05:53] <superactive>        Please install your distribution's libc development package.
[05:54] <unop_> superactive, install the libc6-dev package
[05:55] <matt_> anyone know why all inbound traffic would be blocked besides iptables
[05:55] <sudobash> matt_ firewall/router
[05:55] <Nith> router
[05:55] <matt_> this is localhost
[05:55] <hommeentete> unop_ and leo_rockw:  great advice - and i ran  sudo mount /dev/sdc1 ./drives without error but now how do i access the files on the system?  there isn't anything listed under /drives
[05:55] <matt_> even to localhost is blocked
[05:56] <Nith> then iptables is your issue
[05:56] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: ./drives you wrote
[05:56] <Nith> most firewalls just call iptables
[05:56] <matt_> Nith, iptables is clear
[05:56] <matt_> I did iptables -F
[05:56] <Daisuke_Ido> alrighty then, got things the way i want them now
[05:56] <matt_> and all is set to accept by default
[05:56]  * Nith isn't an expert but try accepting all
[05:56] <NeoGeo64> UBUNTU 8.04 IS COMING SOON!!
[05:56] <NeoGeo64> YAYYY
[05:56] <Daisuke_Ido> AWN is taking care of everything the panels did previously
[05:56] <hommeentete> leo_rockw: well I did the command from my home directory which contained drives
[05:56] <unop_> hommeentete, /drives and ./drives are not the same
[05:56] <NeoGeo64> hello all i will be upgrading from windows xp to ubuntu 8.04 soon
[05:56] <NeoGeo64> no more msoft
[05:57] <unop_> hommeentete, have a look in ~/drives then
[05:57] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: then ~/drives
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> notification area is ugly, but that will come along eventually
[05:57] <Nith> matt_: I've you've tried those than i'm sorry thats the extent of my knowledge in iptables
[05:57] <Nith> matt_: alternatively, make sure localhost is actually mapped to you in /etc/hosts
[05:58] <hommeentete> unop_ and leo_rockw:  no i did the command from ~/home/
[05:58] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: ~ is home
[05:58] <matt_> this is so strange
[05:58] <NeoGeo64> hey all
[05:58] <NeoGeo64> I heard Windows 7 will be based on the Linux 2.0.0.0 kernel.
[05:58] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: unless you have a 'home' directory in /home/username
[05:58] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: then you have to go to /home/username/home/drives
[06:00] <bouma> i have ubuntu nicely installed on my 2nd partition, xp on 1st. i want to run ubuntu sometimes under vmware with xp as host os. but ubuntu wont start xwindows, i can get to the prompt, or choose the 'rescue mode' from grub
[06:00] <hommeentete> leo_rockw: I don't understand what you guys are talking about - there is the root directory which contains all of my directories likes bin and etc and lib and var and yadda yadda - and there is also home which contains my username directory which contains in turn my desktop and all of that - i was directory home which contains my user directory and drives
[06:00] <bouma> what should i do to get ubuntu to redetect the hardware
[06:01] <hommeentete> leo_rockw:  home is in that root directory along with bin and etc and root and all of that
[06:01] <unop_> hommeentete, if it makes you happy, look in /home/<youruser>/drives
[06:01] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: home is in the root directory, yes
[06:01] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: your home is also called ~
[06:01] <unop_> hommeentete, which is the same as $HOME/drives  or ~/drives - they all point to the same location
[06:01] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: where were you when you mounted the device? in ~?
[06:02] <hommeentete> unop_ there is no /home/<username>/drives - i have /home/drives
[06:02] <hommeentete> i mounted the device when i was in home
[06:02] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: you mounted the device when being in home, not in __your__ home.
[06:03] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: ok, your device is in /home/drives then
[06:03] <unop_> hommeentete, according to what you told us .. you used the command  mount blah ./drives  _in_ your home directory .. so the drives can'ty have possibly mounted in /home/drives
[06:03] <unop_> s/ty/t/
[06:04] <hommeentete> unop_ : i guess i don't understand why not
[06:04] <leo_rockw> unop_: unless he typed ../drives
[06:04] <hommeentete> i was in a folder called home and said to create in ./drives
[06:04] <hommeentete> and drives is contained in the folder home
[06:04] <leo_rockw> unop_: but that would have needed the /home/drives directory to exists previously
[06:04] <unop_> leo_rockw, ^^
[06:04] <bouma> could someone help me to get ubuntu to redetect my hardware so the xwindows will work ?
[06:04] <hommeentete> and i created /home/drives previously
[06:05] <nevoscrpt> hellu :)
[06:05] <unop_> hommeentete, well anyway, it really doesnt matter where they are mounted just as long as you can access them --  the 'mount' command should tell you where they are mounted exactly
[06:05] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: ok, now you found where it is then. :-D
[06:05] <hommeentete> guys i'm saying that I think that's where it should be but I can't find it
[06:05] <Sweet-P> i have a 7.10 server and I wish to use my gmail from work.  Gmail Lite no longer works so I need something else to proxy my gmail for me...i have apache running so that may help?
[06:05] <hommeentete> i go to home/drives and do ls -al and just get . and ..
[06:06] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: try the "mount" command then
[06:06] <unop_> hommeentete, did you try.  mount
[06:06] <hommeentete> i did sudo mount /dev/sdc1 ./drives
[06:06] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: wait, that makes sense. your HD is empty
[06:06] <unop_> hommeentete, no, just a plain mount
[06:06] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: that's why you only see . and ..
[06:06] <hommeentete> oh so you're saying if i put something on it then it will show up?
[06:07] <unop_> leo_rockw, err no, if mount was successfull, he should see a list in /home/drives/
[06:07] <hommeentete> well how am i supposed to put something on it if i can't see it?
[06:07] <leo_rockw> unop_: a list of what?
[06:07] <JPSman> So uh - just out of plain dumb curiosity, what features will hardy have over gusty?
[06:07] <unop_> leo_rockw, of mount points obviously
[06:07] <leo_rockw> unop_: he just formatted the drive
[06:07] <unop_> hommeentete, for god's sakes, just run the damn mount command on it's own
[06:07] <leo_rockw> unop_: no, i'm talking about the ls
[06:07] <hommeentete> lol okay... h/o
[06:08] <unop_> leo_rockw, he doesnt even see the mount point
[06:08] <bouma> what is the way that i can make ubuntu redetect my hardware ??
[06:08] <leo_rockw> unop_: he said he found /home/drives
[06:08] <leo_rockw> unop_: and he also said the directory was empty, which makes sense, since there's nothing on the hd
[06:08] <NeoGeo64> Whats the max ram limit for 32 bit ubunty
[06:08] <NeoGeo64> ubutnu
[06:08] <NeoGeo64> Ubuntu**
[06:09] <leo_rockw> NeoGeo64: i believe it is 4gb
[06:09] <NeoGeo64> thats it?
[06:09] <unop_> bouma, sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart
[06:09] <leo_rockw> NeoGeo64: i'm not 100% sure
[06:09] <NeoGeo64> i have one of those new mac towers
[06:09] <NeoGeo64> whatever its called
[06:09] <hommeentete> leo_rockw and unop_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63252/
[06:09] <NeoGeo64> it has 8gb ram installed
[06:09] <NeoGeo64> what version do i need
[06:09] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: yeah, like i said. you don't see anything because the drive is empty
[06:10] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: it was mounted on /home/drives
[06:10] <superactive> Seems like it worked
[06:10] <superactive> with the drivers
[06:10] <NeoGeo64> what version do i need for a mac pro
[06:10] <hommeentete> Okay, then how do I put something on it and access the files if I can't see it?
[06:10] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: use nautilus
[06:10] <shishirmk> hi guys can you give me link to md5sums of ubuntu 8.04 beta
[06:11] <NeoGeo64> does anyone know ??
[06:11] <hommeentete> sudo apt-get nautilus or is that a command?
[06:11] <NeoGeo64> i have Two 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (8-core) + 8gb ram
[06:11] <superactive> I have another question, I switched to Ubuntu yesterday and saved all the files I wanted to save on my second HDD, but now I can\t even accest it
[06:11] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: how do you usually navigate your files?
[06:11] <leo_rockw> NeoGeo64: is that ppc?
[06:11] <hommeentete> mostly through remote ssh
[06:11] <wqfqwwf> superactive: try mounting the partition using the shell
[06:11] <unop_> shishirmk, http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/
[06:11] <hommeentete> and using ftp to transfer
[06:12] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: just do it the same way then
[06:12] <NeoGeo64> leo_rockw: i dont know i just got this machine
[06:12] <NeoGeo64> it cost 10 grand
[06:12] <superactive> wqeqwwf" how would I do that?
[06:12] <NeoGeo64> i won the lottery a few months back
[06:12] <NeoGeo64> 275,000
[06:12] <NeoGeo64> so i bought my dream machine
[06:12] <leo_rockw> NeoGeo64: i'm not familiar with macs. if it is ppc, ubuntu dropped ppc support a while ago.
[06:12] <NeoGeo64> oh darn
[06:12] <leo_rockw> NeoGeo64: there's a community based version, tho
[06:12] <NeoGeo64> well osx is nifty
[06:13] <leo_rockw> NeoGeo64: that means, not official
[06:13] <SeaPhor> i would have built the same or better for ya for 9!
[06:13] <NeoGeo64> thats okay
[06:13] <NeoGeo64> i guess ill have to find a ppc distro
[06:13] <leo_rockw> NeoGeo64: if it has intel, then you can use the regular ubuntu version
[06:13] <superactive> wqeqwwf" how would I do that?
[06:13] <hommeentete> leo_rockw: i'm doing that but i don't see anything there
[06:13] <NeoGeo64> Two 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (8-core)
[06:13] <NeoGeo64> thats whats inside
[06:13] <wqfqwwf> superactive: mount -t [partition_type] device dir
[06:13] <shishirmk>  unop_: i have been there its got only aletrnate cd checksums
[06:13] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: you formatted the drive, you shouldn't see anything there
[06:13] <hommeentete> leo_rockw: if I mount to a directory - does that directory become the drive itself?
[06:13] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: yes
[06:13] <hommeentete> ooohhhh
[06:14] <unop_> shishirmk, look properly, it's there in a file called MD5SUMS
[06:14] <hommeentete> so then whatever i put into /home/drives is actually going onto my external hard drive
[06:14] <shishirmk> i saw
[06:14] <wqfqwwf> superactive: for example: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/test
[06:14] <vp> good morning to everibody
[06:14] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: exactly
[06:14] <moromole> superactive: for example: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/test
[06:14] <unop_> shishirmk, you didn't see properly - http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/MD5SUMS
[06:14] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: if you want it mounted there by default add a line to your /etc/fstab
[06:14] <evilbug> hey
[06:14] <vageomar> Good morning
[06:14] <leo_rockw> vageomar: good evening :-D
[06:14] <shishirmk> ok great turns out my md5checksum doesnt match
[06:14] <hommeentete> ahaha!!! I didn't understand that at all - now I get it -  thank you very much leo_rockw and unop_ !!!
[06:14] <shishirmk> what to do now
[06:14] <leo_rockw> hommeentete: np
[06:15] <kindofabuzz> ok installed xfce, logged back onto gnome, opened up ktorrent and all my torrents in the list are gone.  You are already downloading this torrent Dazed.and.Confused.DVDRip.XViD.ME, the list of trackers of both torrents has been merged.  anyone?
[06:15] <unop_> shishirmk, did you download the desktop or alternate version?
[06:15] <leo_rockw> shishirmk: redownload?
[06:15] <shishirmk> unop_: what to do if they dont match ?? download once again??
[06:15] <evilbug> what do you folks think about 1&1 web hosting?
[06:16] <shishirmk> ubuntu-8.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso i downloaded this and md5sum says the hash is 9cac7a624ad90c4c120a47612cdd263a
[06:16] <unop_> shishirmk, umm yea, but first, do you remember which mirror exactly you downloaded the image off?
[06:16] <moromole> evilbug: way too offtopic
[06:16] <shishirmk> ya japan
[06:16] <dle> Where are Nautilus Notes stored?  I.e. those you make with right-click->Properties->Notes?
[06:16] <unop_> shishirmk, hmm, do you still have the link?
[06:16] <Smerdykov> I'm a new user to Linux, and I'm running a fresh install of Deb, I can't get my sound to come out of my headphone port despite all the ALSA finagling I can muster
[06:16] <shishirmk> unop_: ya japan
[06:16] <Smerdykov> can anyone help me?
[06:16] <shishirmk> yep
[06:17] <arunkale> i have a mac, and a pc running ubuntu... is there a way to share files between the two?
[06:17] <moromole> arunkale: right click a folder and select sharing
[06:17] <unop_> arunkale, samba, nfs, ftp, ssh, scp, netcat - pick one
[06:17] <shishirmk> unop_: i have the link does it avoid redownlaoding?
[06:18] <shishirmk> redownloading*
[06:18] <unop_> shishirmk, let's have a look, post the link
[06:18] <NeoGeo64> oh well
[06:18] <NeoGeo64> I reckon I'll keep OSX on this and put Linux on my PC./
[06:18] <arunkale> unop_: ha.. the computers aren't physically connected to each other, but they are both connected to the same router if that makes a difference
[06:18] <NeoGeo64> OSX is too cool to not use
[06:18] <NeoGeo64> its unixy
[06:18] <unop_> arunkale, all those protocols need a network connection
[06:18] <leo_rockw> NeoGeo64: that it is
[06:19] <shishirmk> unop_::http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/Linux/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso
[06:19] <oxeimon> so there's this video I tried to open w/ movie player, but it says that "The playback of this movie requires the following decoders which are not installed: RealVideo 3.0 decoder, Sipro/ACELP.NET Voice decoder"
[06:19] <arunkale> unop_: network connection as in? a physical cable connecting the two?
[06:19] <oxeimon> does anyone know where I might be able to find these?
[06:19] <leo_rockw> oxeimon: did you try vlc?
[06:20] <oxeimon> leo_rockw: yes, vlc opens, but shows no video
[06:20] <superactive> if my seperate hdd label is Mega, how can I mount it?
[06:20] <oxeimon> ie, I just see top window frame
[06:20] <shishirmk> oxeimon: get realplayer11gold for linux
[06:20] <shishirmk> oxeimon: from softpedia
[06:20] <unop_> shishirmk, doesn't look good - the md5sum on this mirror doesn't match up either - http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/Linux/ubuntu-releases/8.04/MD5SUMS
[06:20] <leo_rockw> oxeimon: i thought vlc played all formats, even realplayer
[06:20] <trippss> is there an easy way to copy files between two ubuntu boxes over the network without installing sshd?
[06:20] <oxeimon> shishirmk: can I do that via synaptic?
[06:21] <leo_rockw> trippss: email the files?
[06:21] <shishirmk> unop_: what do you suggest i should do
[06:21] <unop_> shishirmk, you'll need to redownload yes . i don't think there's anyway to have a resume download - so it needs to be done from the beginning.
[06:21] <trippss> leo_rockw, too large
[06:21] <shishirmk> oxeimon: i dont know about synaptic.. i think its not possible via synaptic..
[06:21] <leo_rockw> trippss: why is it that you're trying to avoid sshd?
[06:21] <trippss> leo_rockw, also for sake of example assume no internet connectivity
[06:21] <bullgard4> How to isolate the executable files from the listing resulting from Synaptic > (package name) > Preferences > Installed Files?
[06:21] <leo_rockw> trippss: oh, ok
[06:21] <unop_> shishirmk, if you are capable with debian or ubuntu, i suggest you download the network/minimal CD .. install the base system and then install other packages from the internet using apt-get, etc
[06:21] <leo_rockw> trippss: still, why not sshd?
[06:22] <shishirmk> oxeimon: you should download the .bin file and just run it like you run a shell script
[06:22] <superactive> wqfqwwf: I need your help
[06:22] <trippss> leo_rockw, just looking for alternate ways to accomplish this
[06:22] <oxeimon> shishirmk: kk
[06:22] <arunkale> has anyone used lame encoder here?
[06:22] <leo_rockw> trippss: ok... i can't think of any really, sorry
[06:22] <inacoma> Hey guys :>
[06:23] <leo_rockw> inacoma: hello
[06:23] <shishirmk> unop_: too bad i have a 256kbps connection and it takes whole night
[06:23] <r00723r0> How do I configure my selected screen saver?
[06:23] <shishirmk> unop_: thanks anywya
[06:23] <shishirmk> anyway
[06:23] <kindofabuzz> same way you chose your screensaver?
[06:23] <unop_> shishirmk, hmm, i dunno if you would be interested in the minimal CD tho
[06:24] <trippss> leo_rockw, no worries then thanks!
[06:24] <unop_> shishirmk, or network CD even, only ~10mb .. but requires you know your way around the debian/ubuntu command line
[06:24] <Filled-Void> Its been taking alot of time for GUtsy to startup on my computer for some time now. Is there any way to find out whats causing the delay after I select Ubuntu to boot from the menu which comes up in the beginning.
[06:24] <shishirmk> unop_: well i wanted a proper cd to give it to my frns
[06:25] <shishirmk> unop_: i could have managed somehow with the network cd
[06:25] <leo_rockw> Filled-Void: run the dmesg command and see where's the bottleneck
[06:25] <shishirmk> but they cant..
[06:25] <bouma> unop_ sorry, got discon, um how can i force xwindows to reconfigure itself ?
[06:25] <bouma> unop_ i cant find xconfigurator or Xorgcfg or anything similar
[06:25] <unop_> !xres
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xres - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <unop_> !res
[06:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:25] <bouma> unop_ and im hoping there is a really easy way with ubuntu
[06:26] <bouma> unop_ ok thanks
[06:26] <unop_> bouma, see what ubotu just said
[06:26] <Filled-Void> leo_rockw, I believe the number on the left side of dmesg are seconds?
[06:27] <leo_rockw> Filled-Void: exactly
[06:27] <Filled-Void> leo_rockw, Thanks I think I found the problem but I have no clue what to do to fix it :x
[06:27] <arunkale> !restricted
[06:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:27] <inacoma> I have a problem: I am running Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper and installed a LAMP Server on a different box connected to my network through a router. I set up apache, got everything working etc - i can load sites from my computer (On the same network) through each: http://192.168.X.X/, http://Public.IP/ and http://Dyn.DNS/ (I have a dns set up that runs through the router)...
[06:27] <unop_> bullgard4, i dunno how it is done in synaptic, but this should do the same.  for i in $(dpkg -L packagename); do [[ -x $i && -f $i ]] && echo $i; done
[06:27] <leo_rockw> Filled-Void: you could pastebin the conflict part and give us the link, perhaps someone can help you here
[06:28] <inacoma> But when i ask others if they can load the site through the Public IP or DNS, they cannot load the page...
[06:28] <Filled-Void> leo_rockw, Sure one sec
[06:28] <GunnerKes> Hi, could someone plz reccomend a good program to hardcode subtitles into my avi?
[06:28] <leo_rockw> inacoma: do they get a "you don't have permission to access this site"?
[06:29] <leo_rockw> GunnerKes: i believe avidemux lets you do that
[06:29] <Filled-Void> leo_rockw, http://pastebin.com/m1726e3ec
[06:29] <inacoma> leo_rockw: No i think they are just getting "Problem loading page"
[06:29] <cute> kenalan donk!!
[06:29] <leo_rockw> inacoma: if you can access the page and they can't... then that sounds alike a permission problem to me
[06:30] <GunnerKes> thanx leo-rockw, jus downloading it now =D
[06:30] <leo_rockw> !pm | inacoma
[06:30] <ubotu> inacoma: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[06:30] <inacoma> ? I just didn't want to give away the DNS to the whole channel -.- sif warm me because of that :)
[06:30] <Smerdykov> I'm a new user to Linux, and I'm running a fresh install of Deb, I can't get my sound to come out of my headphone port despite all the ALSA finagling I can muster
[06:30] <Smerdykov> can anyone help me?
[06:30] <inacoma> so i pm'd you it
[06:30] <inacoma> sorry ;X
[06:31] <leo_rockw> inacoma: could have asked me first
[06:31] <inacoma> sorry :)
[06:31] <inacoma> can you check it anyway? ;X
[06:31] <inacoma> hehe
[06:31] <leo_rockw> Filled-Void: i don't see why it's taking so long. i can't help you with this, sorry
[06:32] <bazhang> Smerdykov: what is deb? is that debian?
[06:32] <Smerdykov> yes sir
[06:32] <bouma> unop_ beautiful thanks. i needed the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:32] <leo_rockw> inacoma: i tried to ping it and it says "ping: unknown host"
[06:32] <Smerdykov> I can't seem to get any help in the Debian channel, so I thought I'd ask here
[06:32] <bazhang> Smerdykov: have you tried in their channel? #debian they are generally quite good
[06:33] <Smerdykov> no response, actually
[06:33] <prettyricky> Has anyone tried the 8.04 beta?
[06:33] <StevenX> guys, what can i use in ubuntu to check .sfv files?
[06:33] <inacoma> hmmm
[06:33] <leo_rockw> prettyricky: i'm using hardy atm
[06:33] <lova> hey!!!!!
[06:33] <inacoma> can i PM you my IP leo? ;X
[06:33] <Smerdykov> I figured this channel was a good alternative
[06:33] <prettyricky> how is it?? Better than e Feisty?
[06:33] <leo_rockw> inacoma: ok
[06:33] <bazhang> Smerdykov: this is the ubuntu channel; if you are running ubuntu www.ubuntu.com/download then we can talk ;]
[06:34] <arunkale> are there any gnome alternatives for kompose?
[06:34] <Filled-Void> Sorry all got disconnected. If anyone did post a reply to the pastebin  link I gave, tI would appreciate it if you sent me it
[06:35] <Smerdykov> I figured that Ubuntu, as a Debian branch, was similar enough
[06:35] <bazhang> Smerdykov: well we could offer some advice, but then when your system breaks who will you blame?
[06:35] <prettyricky> cant wait for the release.....
[06:36] <Smerdykov> I think it's just a problem with the ALSA drivers, I need a second (or third, or fourth so far) opinion
[06:36] <didy> someone plz tell me how to completely uninstall kde :P
[06:36] <leo_rockw> inacoma: what are you using to update your ip to dyndns?
[06:36] <inacoma> Through my router
[06:37] <bazhang> Smerdykov: then #alsa
[06:37] <unop> didy, remove all the kde packages - sudo aptitude purge $(dpkg -l | grep -i kde | cut -c 3-30)
[06:37] <leo_rockw> inacoma: your router might not be doing a good job then
[06:37] <inacoma> haha apparently :P
[06:37] <leo_rockw> inacoma: is you dyndns address working for you?
[06:37] <inacoma> Yes ;(
[06:37] <leo_rockw> inacoma: that's weird then...
[06:37] <StevenX> guys, what application can I use to check sfv files in ubuntu?
[06:37] <inacoma> I have an idea
[06:37] <inacoma> haha
[06:38] <inacoma> actually i might know why
[06:38] <leo_rockw> inacoma: if you figure it out then tell us how you fixed it in case somebody else runs into the same problem
[06:38] <Smerdykov> Alsa has never been any help
[06:38] <inacoma> No worries thx for your help yoo
[06:38] <inacoma> too *
[06:38] <didy> unop: what does that command do?
[06:38] <leo_rockw> inacoma: the channel logs are indexed, that's why i don't like pms
[06:38] <unop> didy, completely uninstalls kde
[06:39] <zool_> ку
[06:39] <leo_rockw> StevenX: apt-cache show cfv
[06:39] <Shadow420> back
[06:39] <Kr|ptiX> how do i unrar a protected .rar file
[06:40] <bullgard4> unop: Excellent! Thank you very much for your help.
[06:40] <Shadow420> Kriptix do you have the pass code for the protected rar file
[06:40] <StevenX> leo_rockw, thanks
[06:40] <unop> bullgard4, it pays to know a little shell scripting :)
[06:40] <Filled-Void> Anyone any idea on how to speed up the booting process for my system. It takes 130 seconds for just 2 steps to finish which is given here in http://pastebin.com/m1726e3ec .  :)
[06:40] <leo_rockw> StevenX: np
[06:40] <inacoma`> leo_rockw: Would you be able to try that DNS again?
[06:41] <inacoma`> or ping it
[06:41] <leo_rockw> inacoma`: sure
[06:41] <leo_rockw> inacoma`: unknown host
[06:41] <inacoma`> Hmmm
[06:41] <bullgard4> unop: Yes, and I am going to learn a little bit more about bash scriting.
[06:42] <leo_rockw> inacoma`: working now
[06:42] <oddalot> hi, how do I change the folder permissions to i can write files to the directory?
[06:42] <yasmina> hola
[06:42] <inacoma`> 1543 dns: resolved jeebus.dontexist.org to 122.XXX.XXX.XX
[06:42] <inacoma`> oh really :)
[06:42] <Kr|ptiX> how do i unrar a protected .rar file
[06:42] <trinity> are there any video chats on linux
[06:42] <bazhang> Kr|ptiX: enter the pass when you try to unrar it
[06:42] <Shadow420> Kr|ptiXx do you have the pass code for the protected rar file
[06:42] <leo_rockw> inacoma`: if i put http:// and the / at the end it doesn't work
[06:43] <Kr|ptiX> yeah i got the passcode
[06:43] <inacoma`> >.<
[06:43] <didy> .....
[06:43] <andres_> hola
[06:43] <leo_rockw> trinity: hasn't skype released video chat for linux recently?
[06:43] <didy> i typed that command
[06:43] <Kr|ptiX> it wont let me unrar it for some reason
[06:43] <oddalot> anyone know how to change folder permissions?
[06:43] <leo_rockw> andres_: hello
[06:43] <Kr|ptiX> bazhang wats the command
[06:43] <leo_rockw> oddalot: man chmod
[06:43] <bazhang> skype beta yeah
[06:43] <trinity> just stated using linux this week
[06:43] <didy> unop : i entered that command and it says end kde session then hangs there saying "loading boot scripts" etc
[06:44] <oddalot> k thanks
[06:44] <bazhang> didy this is gutsy or hardy
[06:44] <leo_rockw> trinity: amsn supports video chat through msn
[06:44] <Shadow420> !unrar
[06:44] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:44] <trinity> thanks
[06:44] <didy> hardy
[06:44] <leo_rockw> inacoma`: now it's working even with the http://
[06:44] <didy> i installed kde for fun then i dont want it now...
[06:44] <leo_rockw> inacoma`: good job :-D
[06:44] <inacoma`> :D
[06:44] <Kr|ptiX> wat does WARNING: You need to start extraction from a previous volume to unpack mean
[06:44] <Shadow420> Ihardy | didy
[06:44] <bazhang> didy: does unop know ths is hardy?
[06:44] <yokomaster> hy
[06:44] <Shadow420> !hardy | didy
[06:45] <ubotu> didy: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[06:45] <leo_rockw> inacoma`: it's weird. it works sporadically
[06:45] <didy> im using hardy heron ubuntu 8.04 beta and installed kde for fun... then i dun want it. i wanna do a complete uninstallation of kde (including related tools/boot screen/login screen)
[06:45] <inacoma`> Yeah, seems like it
[06:45] <inacoma`> could it be only accepting one or two connections?
[06:45] <leo_rockw> inacoma`: how's your upload speed?
[06:45] <JanPeter> Gnome is the way to go
[06:45] <leo_rockw> inacoma`: yeah, it could be your connection
[06:45] <inacoma`> Ahh, true...
[06:45] <leo_rockw> JanPeter: are you trying to start a flamewar? lol
[06:45] <bullgard4> Launchpad: "There is no project named 'gnome-doc-prepare' registered in Launchpad." How to find out what project the file /usr/bin/gnome-doc-prepare belongs to?
[06:45] <didy> unop ???
[06:46] <inacoma`> leo_rockw: my ISP is gay with upload speeds
[06:46] <inacoma`> ;(
[06:46] <inacoma`> haha
[06:46] <leo_rockw> inacoma`: that might be the problem then
[06:46] <bazhang> wrong channel didy
[06:46] <Shadow420> !hardy | didy
[06:46] <ubotu> didy: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[06:46] <inacoma`> But i just want people to be able to look at the pages - its mainly just to show work to people as im doing it (i'm a webdev)
[06:46] <JanPeter> leo_rockw: haha nah, but i used to love kde... lost interest in it as of late
[06:46] <StevenX> leo_rockw,  cfv is saying that all my files are not Ok. I am using the command "cfv -vrs directory"
[06:46] <didy> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:47] <StevenX> am i doin this correct?
[06:47] <mheath> didy: you already asked in #ubuntu+1, and you were already provided with an explanation there.
[06:47] <mheath> didy: Support for hardy, as already pointed out, is there and not here.
[06:47] <leo_rockw> StevenX: i never used cfv before. in fact, i don't know what sfv files are, i only gave you a command to look through ubuntu packages to find something that might help you
[06:47] <Shadow420> inacoma I can probly help you I am in the webdev somewhat
[06:47] <bazhang> didy: if you ignore what people suggest then how can you get any help?
[06:47] <StevenX> leo_rockw, ok thanks
[06:47] <didy> nobody reply lol
[06:48] <leo_rockw> StevenX: sorry i can't be of greater help
[06:48] <JPSman> why cant I DCC or send files on xchat??
[06:48] <kaka> hey
[06:48] <JanPeter> right click on name...
[06:48] <JanPeter> send file
[06:48] <Shadow420> didy go to the #ubuntu+1 chatroom for support on hardy not here
[06:48] <leo_rockw> inacoma`: then maybe some cheap hosting might be your solution
[06:48] <kaka> iam erin
[06:48] <JPSman> JanPeter: I have tried that - i'm sending files to myself and it no work
[06:49] <JanPeter> hmm i see, i used to do that lol
[06:49] <JPSman> JanPeter: can I try to send you a file?
[06:49] <arunkale> how do i access files via an AFP protocol in Ubuntu?
[06:49] <Shadow420> !hardy | didy
[06:49] <ubotu> didy: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[06:49] <inacoma`> leo_rockw: I have hosting :) I am just working through this because it's easier to test / view locally than upload every time (with databases, too)... it won't be common that people look at it just if it's needed it's be good to get it working :D but thanks for the help :)
[06:50] <bazhang> Shadow420: you can also !hardy > him
[06:50] <joel_> are there any good web-dev rooms on freenode?
[06:50] <bazhang> though at this point what is the use
[06:50] <JanPeter> JPSman: sure
[06:50] <JanPeter> JPSman: go ahead
[06:50] <Shadow420> bazhang thanksfo the tip
[06:51] <Shadow420> !hardy > didy
[06:52] <arunkale> umm i just set up a samba share on my mac.. i tried connecting to it in ubuntu, it's not working
[06:52] <bouma> unop, ive been reading wiki.ubuntu.com but i cant find a similar way to get the network hardware redetected
[06:52] <arunkale> oh wait, it did work
[06:52] <arunkale> damn, this is EASY
[06:53] <joey> hi
[06:53] <arunkale> sharing files is so easy, i can't believe it!
[06:53] <Shadow420> has anyone tried to boot grub using the windows bootloader?
[06:53] <didy> unop: whats that command again sir :P
[06:54] <JanPeter> Shadow420: i think its ill-advised
[06:54] <JanPeter> Shadow420: windows doesn't like knowing its not one and only
[06:55] <Shadow420> JanPeter well would rater have windows bootloader being first so I don't have to keep re-installing grub everytime I have to re-install windows
[06:55] <unop> didy, sorry had a little to do, you entered the command right?
[06:55] <unop> didy, sudo aptitude purge $(dpkg -l | grep -i kde | cut -c 3-30)
[06:56] <unop> bouma, hrmm, maybe  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow linux-image linux-image-$(uname -r)
[06:56] <unop> bouma, and reboot afterwards -- it might not work, but we'll see about that once you are done with this
[06:56] <mach15> does anyone know how I can tell how much "disk space" I  have left in a wubin install?
[06:56] <Shadow420> JanPeter grub is being booted off a floppy right now and I am soon to get it to boot from a cd
[06:56] <bouma> unop ok.. thanks, and when i want to run this ubuntu native, i have to go through all this again ?
[06:57] <unop> mach15, run this command.  df -h
[06:57] <JanPeter> Shadow420: yea that should be straight
[06:57] <unop> bouma, native? i dont understand what that means
[06:57] <bouma> unop shouldnt it be a matter of kernel modules, ifconfig reports some kind of eth1
[06:57] <concord_laptop> Where would I do to obtain nvidia and creative sound blaster drivers if I were to install ubtuntu?
[06:57] <djay-il> hello
[06:57] <mach15> thanks that works really good
[06:57] <Nith> hi
[06:58] <djay-il> I need a little advice
[06:58] <djay-il> about a new hardware
[06:58] <bouma> unop, i installed ubuntu on 2nd partition it works nicely, xp on 1st, now i am configuring ubuntu to run under vmware with xp host
[06:58] <djay-il> I need to decide between Q6600 and Q9300
[06:58] <Shadow420> JanPeter the reason I wanted to do this because I use windows most of the time I am using ubuntu as a something different
[06:58] <unop> bouma, you can verify if the NIC was properly detected - sudo lshw -C network
[06:58] <djay-il> please help
[06:59] <Shadow420> bouma well vmware is nice but I would suggest qemu or bochs
[06:59] <bouma> unop, thats why i needed to make ubuntu redeconfigure xwindows, to your question
[06:59] <mach15> is there any way I can increase the wubi "disk space" ?
[07:00] <unop> bouma, i should say, running ubuntu under vmware and running ubuntu itself are two different things even if on the same machine, vmware does most of the work anyway, so it wouldn't be fair to bring your hopes up
[07:00] <bouma> unop, yes that finds a PCnet32 LANCE, and everything seems ok
[07:00] <unop> bouma, that sounds very much like a vmware device
[07:00] <bouma> unop, i mean the command runs ok, i still cant ping anything
[07:00] <bouma> unop, right. as i am running under vmware
[07:01] <kelvin911> hello
[07:01] <maria_> ola
[07:01] <unop> bouma, you might need to setup networking, i'm not vary familiar with vmware and networking with the host OS tho
[07:01] <kelvin911> when i turn on the remote control, how so i check who's connect?
[07:01] <Shadow420> bouma I might be able to help u
[07:01] <JKeller1068_> Hello all.  Quick question about tv out and possible damage to a projection tv.  I have a Nv8400 low profile in a gx620 that I would like to connect to a projection tv.  To get the proper display I just need to set the config in the xorg.conf file correct (7.10).  And would this damage the tv at all?
[07:01] <unop> !vmware
[07:01] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:01] <kelvin911> how do i check who is connected
[07:01] <unop> kelvin911, who; w;
[07:02] <kelvin911> in terminal enter who; ??
[07:02] <kelvin911> but what if he is messing up my mouse?
[07:02] <unop> kelvin911, and/or w;  too
[07:02] <kelvin911> is there any hot key to take control again?
[07:02] <kelvin911> or disconnect user?
[07:03] <unop> kelvin911, stop jumping to conclusions.. find out if someone is connected first
[07:03] <kelvin911> i mean i know he is connected
[07:04] <kelvin911> but is there a hot key i can immediately temperality disconnect him?
[07:04] <kelvin911> from controlling?
[07:04] <leo_rockw> kelvin911: you can find out his pid and kill it
[07:04] <kelvin911> but my mouse is moving and he moves my cube i cant find a way to open up terminal or get window focus
[07:05] <kelvin911> is there a hot key?
[07:05] <djay-il> kelvin911, get to the terminal by ctrl+alt+ one of the F1 keys
[07:05] <unop> kelvin911, you find out the tty/pty the user is logged in on, and run  fuser -k /dev/ttyX
[07:05] <kelvin911> cant type command without focus of teminal window
[07:06] <unop> kelvin911, this is a virtual terminal, and isnt run in the X GUI
[07:07] <dwad> how big will the new ubuntu be (default installation)
[07:07] <Shadow420> kelvin911 my best suggestion although it's a last resort but commence a hard shutdown of the pc
[07:07] <Godkas> Hey, I'm thinking about switching to ubuntu from slackware. can anyone tell me how they compare?
[07:08] <SuperQ> Godkas: good question
[07:08] <bazhang> Godkas: very little if any compiling
[07:08] <SuperQ> Godkas: the major thing that ubuntu has is centralized software updates
[07:08] <Shadow420> Godkas and it's based on a very stable OS Debian
[07:08] <SuperQ> Godkas: and very easy major version upgrades
[07:08] <Godkas> and what about 64bit distros (if there is one)
[07:08] <Omlette> That is one thing I like about Ubuntu: regular updates.
[07:09] <Omlette> There is one.
[07:09] <Godkas> i hear there isnt a lot of 64bit support
[07:09] <Shadow420> Godkas yes there is one
[07:09] <SuperQ> Godkas: yes, amd64 (x86_64) is fully supported
[07:09] <Omlette> I don't have any experience with the 64-bit distro, so I can't help there.
[07:09] <Godkas> hmm im on a core-2
[07:09] <Filled-Void> Godkas, Im on 64 bit UBuntu
[07:09] <SuperQ> Godkas: linux 64bit in general is better supported for servers than it is for desktps
[07:10] <SuperQ> Godkas: yes, will work fine on core-2
[07:10] <Shadow420> Godkas even though I never tried slackware but i may
[07:10] <kelvin911> guys i did that ctrl alt F1 thing
[07:10] <Godkas> but what limitations will i face going 64bit if any
[07:10] <kelvin911> how to get out of there?
[07:10] <kelvin911> i just reboot my computer
[07:10] <JKeller1068_> Hello all.  Has anyone had any issues running 3ds Max (on the software driver) in a winxp virtualbox setup?  (i've asked over at the vbox irc, but it seems to be zzz over there, any help would be greatly appreciated).
[07:10] <SuperQ> Godkas: some binary-only applications are annoying to setup, like adobe flash
[07:10] <SuperQ> Godkas: and openoffice is less stable
[07:10] <bazhang> Godkas: getting flash to work well seems to be a gripe
[07:10] <kelvin911> i try exit and any other commands cant get out of that command prompt
[07:11] <Godkas> what about programs like wine
[07:11] <SuperQ> Godkas: hrm.. wine may also be an issue
[07:11] <globe> can anybody explain to me why Upstart commands fail from within a cron job?
[07:11] <Shadow420> kelvin911 best thing to do is reboot or a hard shutdown
[07:11] <kelvin911> ??
[07:11] <SuperQ> Godkas: because most windows apps are 32bit
[07:11] <SuperQ> Godkas: how much ram do you have?
[07:11] <kelvin911> so after u ctrl, alt, F1 u cant get out of there?
[07:11] <djay-il> kelvin911, alt+f7 will get you back to X windows
[07:11] <Godkas> 2gig
[07:11] <Omlette> Wine doesn't emulate 32bit that well, huh?
[07:11] <SuperQ> Godkas: is this for desktop or server
[07:11] <SuperQ> Godkas: you have no need for 64bit
[07:11] <Filled-Void> Godkas, I guess there are some applications which only have 32 bit versions. Earlier Opera was an example but now they have a beta for 64 bit . There is also a way to compile or force 32 bits to run on 64 bit (Its how I understood it) but thats way beyond me
[07:12] <kelvin911> should i try it now?
[07:12] <SuperQ> Godkas: you'll be better off with 32bit
[07:12] <djay-il> kelvin911, yes
[07:12] <kelvin911> i dont wanna reboot again
[07:12] <kelvin911> u sure alt F7 do the trick?
[07:12] <Godkas> thats what i thought just the only drivers for my sound card are 64bit lool
[07:12] <Shadow420> kelvin911 best thing to do is a hard shutdown
[07:12] <Godkas> im on my backup
[07:12] <kelvin911> why hard shut down?
[07:12] <SuperQ> Godkas: huh?
[07:13] <SuperQ> Godkas: what sound card?
[07:13] <Filled-Void> Godkas, If you are plalning to compile WIne it is a pain on 64 bit also. I did this once to try out a game in Wine
[07:13] <Shadow420> kelvin that will shutdown any type of connection
[07:13] <djay-il> kelvin911, alt f7 will get you back to graphics. now you're in terminal
[07:13] <kelvin911> there is no connection problem
[07:13] <Shadow420> kelvin911 ok then
[07:13] <kelvin911> i just wanna know if i am in ctrl alt F1 how to get out from there back to gui
[07:13] <Shadow420> Godkas how good is slackware?
[07:14] <djay-il> kelvin911, but to disconnect someone connected to your machine, you need to find which terminal is he on, and close it
[07:14] <Godkas> how much of a pain... -eyes 64bit-
[07:14] <JKeller1068_> Hello all.  Quick question about tv out and possible damage to a projection tv.  I have a Nv8400 low profile in a gx620 that I would like to connect to a projection tv.  To get the proper display I just need to set the config in the xorg.conf file correct (7.10).  And would this damage the tv at all?
[07:14] <kelvin911> he is not on terminal
[07:14] <SuperQ> Godkas: basically, you'll want 64bit when you know you need it
[07:14] <kelvin911> i just turn on the remote control for fun
[07:14] <JPSman> Are there any programs
[07:14] <djay-il> kelvin911, anyone "logged in" is on terminal
[07:14] <JPSman> nm
[07:14] <Shadow420> Godkas I might try it out
[07:14] <SuperQ> Godkas: if you don't know if you would need it or not, you probably don't
[07:14] <Filled-Void> Godkas, http://www.filledvoid.com/2008/02/16/compiling-wine-for-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-64-bit/ this much :>
[07:14] <kelvin911> how to find which terminal?
[07:15] <kdorf> I have an interesting network related problem if someone who is knowledgeable would like to help out :)
[07:15] <GunnerKes> can anyone direct me to a tutorial or help me to encode english subs in my spanish film?
[07:15] <djay-il> kelvin911, type 'w' or 'who' on terminal, and look for lines that are not you
[07:15] <SuperQ> kdorf: sure
[07:15] <GunnerKes> im trying to use avidemux
[07:15] <SuperQ> kdorf: just ask your question, and someone will answer
[07:15] <Godkas> oh.. thats not that long
[07:15] <Filled-Void> Godkas, Most of everyhtign on the site aer bugs I had with this version. Most of them might be applicable to 32 bit as well but I just wrote about it anyway :D
[07:15] <Godkas> im used to compilation instructions
[07:15] <Godkas> :P
[07:15] <Filled-Void> Godkas, You read the (more...) part :O ?
[07:16] <kdorf> SuperQ: Well, this may or may not be simple. I need to change what network adapters programs bind to by default
[07:16] <kelvin911> so alt F7 is the only way out of the full screen terminal ?
[07:16] <SuperQ> Godkas: heh, yes, that's the slackware way ;)
[07:16] <co_macho> hupi
[07:16] <Filled-Void> Godkas, Ah if youre a pro at compiling and stuff I guess it shouldnt be a problem :>
[07:16] <SuperQ> kdorf: that may be more complicated than you think'
[07:16] <Omlette> Full screen terminal?
[07:16] <djay-il> hey folks, can I really see the impact of quad-core in general purpose work? like I expect my system to be highly responsive...
[07:16] <Godkas> what more part lol
[07:16] <Godkas> @_@
[07:16] <Omlette> Try F11, to get it back to window size.
[07:16] <djay-il> kelvin911, yes
[07:16] <SuperQ> kdorf: in linux, applications choose their network, not the other way around
[07:16] <Omlette> That worked for me once.
[07:16] <Godkas> no not a pro but slackwares made me learn some
[07:17] <kdorf> SuperQ: Fair enough, then do you know of a way to force wine to bind to ppp0 instead of eth0?
[07:17] <djay-il> kdorf, what do you need this for?
[07:17] <chronographer> Hi all. I got a new monitor, samsung 226BW and it works with nv but not nvidia driver. anyone got advice for me? I use a geforce 5600
[07:17] <ooo|ooo> Good Morning everybody!
[07:17] <djay-il> chronographer, great monitor
[07:17] <Robbie_Crash> chronographer use nvidia-old
[07:17] <ooo|ooo> I have heard, that you can clone a Linux partition by simply copying all its files. But when I do so to a new harddrive - how will I make the new partition bootable?
[07:17] <SuperQ> kdorf: hrm
[07:17] <chronographer> I tried it on gutsy and hardy, exact same problem, fuzzy/.blurry
[07:17] <kdorf> djay-il: I'm behind a university firewall. I have a VPN that forwards ports so I can break out of it, but it's no good if my game doesn't bind to the VPN device (which it doesn't by default)
[07:17] <Filled-Void> chronographer, Didnt get it fixed yesterday :( ?
[07:17] <chronographer> nope
[07:18] <SuperQ> kdorf: maybe if you give me a better idea of what your network config looks like
[07:18] <chronographer> the card worked fine with my LG monitor 15"
[07:18] <djay-il> SuperQ, could it be that Wine should be set to use specific network device?
[07:18] <Robbie_Crash> Is it possible to get ubuntu installed and running off of a PCI IDE card?
[07:18] <SuperQ> djay-il: it's possible it could be in winecfg
[07:18] <unop> kdorf,  using the VPN, is there a way you can ping the machine hosting the game?
[07:18] <Robbie_Crash> chronographer what resolution were you using on the 15"?
[07:19] <kdorf> SuperQ: It's a fairly simple setup, I have just one ethernet card which connects to my university network at a 134.84.*.* IP, and through that I connect to StrongVPN...
[07:19] <djay-il> SuperQ, that's what I was thinking.     <----      kdorf
[07:19] <chronographer> sunno. 1024x768 probably
[07:19] <bouma> chronographer.. hrm, ive got a similar problem with my asus 22", but its only slightly fuzzy in the middle of the screen. under windows i got a more recient driver and it fixed it. are you running the very latest nvidia driver ??
[07:19] <kdorf> unop: Yes, in fact, I can connect for things like SSH through the VPN IP
[07:19] <chronographer> i am using 1680x1050 now, just no compiz (nvidia doesn't work)
[07:19] <SuperQ> kdorf: UMD!
[07:19] <unop> kdorf, you could tunnel with ssh then ..
[07:19] <kdorf> SuperQ: UMN TC, actually
[07:19] <Robbie_Crash> Isn't a geforce5x old or legacy now?
[07:19] <chronographer> I am running hardy's driver nvidia-glx-new
[07:19] <SuperQ> kdorf: wait, I thought 134.84 pointed to UMD..
[07:20] <SuperQ> ahh well
[07:20] <kdorf> It does, but it is shared with TC :)
[07:20] <Shadow420> Godkas how would use slackware
[07:20] <djay-il> chronographer, I know it might not help, but I do use this monitor on Gentoo with standard nvidia driver
[07:20] <djay-il> and its fine
[07:20] <kdorf> unop: Isn't tunneling something you do with outgoing connections? I need this program to accept connections on another adapter
[07:20] <Robbie_Crash> chronographer see what it says about using nvidia-glx-old
[07:20] <chronographer> what card u running with it?
[07:21] <chronographer> hmm... so nvidia-glx ?
[07:21] <kdorf> I set up my routing tables so that everything outgoing goes through the VPN
[07:21] <djay-il> chronographer, Nforce 430, which means? I don't remember
[07:21] <martman> is there a easy way for me to take my 7.04 install and turn it into a livecd/livedvd?
[07:21] <SuperQ> kdorf: so what I think you will need to do is setup a gateway route for the destination network
[07:21] <Robbie_Crash> chronographer either that or nvidia-legacy?
[07:22] <Robbie_Crash> I'm not sure, I don't have my 5600 anymore, so I can't be sure
[07:22] <djay-il> chronographer, probably 4x series
[07:22] <SuperQ> kdorf: you will need to know the subnet of the server you want to connect to
[07:22] <legend2440> martman: http://www.remastersys.klikit.org/
[07:22] <martman> thanks
[07:22] <kdorf> Well, that's a little difficult considering this server is owned by Blizzard
[07:22] <kdorf> and not me :(
[07:22] <unop> kdorf, as long as there is a machine which accpets ssh connection on the same network as the game machine (perhaps the game machine itself) then a tunnel works -- the remote endpoint just needs to be able to make connections to the port on which the game server listens
[07:22] <chronographer> Ok so I should uninstall nvidia-glx-new and try maybe nvidia-glx
[07:23] <chronographer> or this: nvidia-glx-legacy
[07:23] <kdorf> unop: Right, but I kind of forgot a detail - my "VPN" is really a VPN so much as a proxy.
[07:23] <SuperQ> kdorf: something like: sudo ip route add X.X.X.X/24 via dev ppp0
[07:23] <SuperQ> oh..
[07:23] <kdorf> I'm the only machine on this VPN, and it's only purpose is for anonymity and port forwarding purposes.
[07:23] <djay-il> SuperQ, kdorf: how about setting this on Wine, not on host?
[07:24] <SuperQ> I don't think wine can do it
[07:24] <djay-il> SuperQ: doesn't it implement sort of networking?
[07:24] <unop> kdorf, taking out the VPN tunnel from the equation for a moment,  if you were on the the VPN server/proxy in person, could you connect to the game machine ?
[07:24] <SuperQ> djay-il: no, I think it just translates the network socket requests directly
[07:24] <chronographer> I will be back soon
[07:24] <kdorf> If I had two machines on this VPN, yes, everything would work.
[07:24] <Robbie_Crash> I'm trying to install Ubuntu server 7.10 to a PCI IDE card, that part goes fine, but booting gives me error 17 in Grub. I've tried going through Herman's instructions on the forum, but after chrooting into the newly mounted partition I cannot run grub to finish the process of redoing the device.map. Is it possible to get this running properly on this card, or am I going to be in for neverending issues?
[07:25] <djay-il> SuperQ, so I wonder, if I start 'cmd' under wine and run 'route PRINT', what will it give?
[07:25] <unop> kdorf, i'm not sure that answers the question .. what i mean is can that machine connect to the port open on the game machine?
[07:26] <SuperQ> djay-il: no idea, I suppose I could try it on my wine box
[07:26] <djay-il> SuperQ: would you? :-)
[07:26] <kdorf> Hrm
[07:26] <v3trae> so i made a dumb mistake, i installed the "non-official" flash plugin instead of the adobe one and now i'm having tons of problems with flash, is there anyway to uninstall that plugin and install the adobe in it's place?
[07:26] <kdorf> could you rephrase it?
[07:26] <kdorf> I'm still not sure I'm following.
[07:27] <kdorf> My machine is the game machine, I suppose
[07:27] <kdorf> Let me explain a little more and see if it answers your question
[07:27] <SuperQ> kdorf: hold on, i need to get a real cmd.exe off my KVM server
[07:27] <Robbie_Crash> v3trae how did you install the unofficial plugin?
[07:28] <unop> kdorf, perhaps you should explain this VPN setup? is the layout something like this  [your machine] - > {vpn tunnel} <- [vpn server] -> [game machine] ?
[07:28] <kdorf> right.
[07:28] <v3trae> Robbie_Crash: when i first viewed flash for the first time on my new install through firefox it said it was missing a codec and asked to find one. It came up with the adobe and the other one (i dont remember the name) and i chose the open source one. I believe that is where my problems are stemming from
[07:29] <Robbie_Crash> So just in firefox?
[07:29] <Robbie_Crash> like an extension?
[07:29] <kdorf> But I'm not sure what you mean by "game machine"... it's a little ambiguous in this instance. Let me explain a little more.
[07:29] <v3trae> Robbie_Crash: i would think so? but i can;'t find it in any of the Firefox menu's
[07:29] <unop> kdorf, then the vpn client [your machine] should be able to connect to the [game machine] directly .. as by definition, the vpn client _should_ hold an IP address in the same network/subnet as that of the [game machine]
[07:30] <kdorf> making an outgoing connection isn't the issue, it's getting an incoming one
[07:30] <unop> kdorf, i'll wait for you to explain a bit more then :)
[07:30] <kdorf> What it does, more or less, is connects to a matchmaking service (Battle.net) which will let you host games, puts them in a list and allows people to connect. If I host a game, I note that my VPN connection's appropriate port opens, however, people cannot connect to me.
[07:30] <kdorf> They should be connecting directly to my VPN IP
[07:31] <kdorf> but my theory is that the game is binding to eth0, and battle.net lists my public IP as 134.84.*.*, instead of my VPN's IP
[07:31] <Robbie_Crash> v3trae if it's just an extension you should be able to remove the extension by going tools>add ons>extensions tab and then clicking on the extension and clicking uninstall
[07:31] <kdorf> it's the only explanation, since I can SSH directly into my public IP
[07:31] <kdorf> the ports are being forwarded
[07:31] <SuperQ> kdorf: ok
[07:31] <djay-il> kdorf: can you ssh to your VPN IP?
[07:32] <SuperQ> kdorf: yup, route print shows identical routing table as my linux box
[07:32] <kdorf> djay-il: yes, that works.
[07:32] <Robbie_Crash> kdorf can other people ssh to your vpn ip?
[07:32] <unop> kdorf, why does the game bind to that specific socket, why doesn't it bind to 0.0.0.0:<whatever> ?
[07:32] <djay-il> SuperQ: now, if you change it in Wine, does it change in host?
[07:32] <legend2440> v3trae: check in synaptic you may have installed gnash
[07:32] <kdorf> Robbie_Crash: As a test, I sshed into another university computer and then used that to ssh into my VPN IP, which worked
[07:33] <v3trae> Robbie_Crash: k there legend2440 THATS IT! That's what i installed. No idea what synaptic is though >_<
[07:33] <kdorf> unop: It's a windows game, and that is how most of them work, unfortunately
[07:33] <kdorf> In windows there is an option to change network binding priority
[07:33] <SuperQ> *splode*
[07:33] <SuperQ> wine: Call from 0x7b840fc8 to unimplemented function mswsock.dll.inet_network, aborting
[07:33] <legend2440> v3trae: system>administration>synaptic
[07:33] <Ademan> anyone know if zope and apache can coexist?
[07:33] <Ademan> SuperQ: #winehq
[07:33] <djay-il> SuperQ: wow, that's interesting
[07:33] <ooo|ooo> Ademan: in the same universe?
[07:33] <SuperQ> Ademan: I'm not asking a question
[07:34] <SuperQ> Ademan: I'm answering one about wine
[07:34] <Ademan> SuperQ: oh, k lol
[07:34] <SuperQ> heh
[07:34] <djay-il> Ademan: Apache is a web server, zope is a CMS, so yes
[07:34] <Ademan> ooo|ooo: on the same machine
[07:34] <Robbie_Crash> kdorf what's supplying your vpn?
[07:34] <Ademan> djay-il: ah for some reason i thought zope was a server as well
[07:34] <kdorf> Robbie_Crash: StrongVPN service @ http://www.strongvpn.com
[07:34] <djay-il> Ademan: no, it can use various http servers
[07:34] <v3trae> legend2440: found it, will firefox prompt me again to reinstall adobe? or is that in here too?
[07:34] <Robbie_Crash> kdorf also, what's your local ip scheme?
[07:35] <legend2440> v3trae: yes
[07:35] <Ademan> djay-il: awesome, i suppose that answers the question then :-).    rather unfortunate it depends on python 2.4 though...
[07:35] <v3trae> legend2440: awesome, thank you for your help
[07:35] <v3trae> Robbie_Crash: you also, thank you =)
[07:35] <djay-il> Ademan: well
[07:35] <Robbie_Crash> np
[07:35] <djay-il> Ademan: I believe that if Launchpad is using it, its good enough
[07:36] <kdorf> Robbie_Crash: my local eth0 IP is the same as it is externally, a 134.84.*.* address, and my ppp0 is reached via eth0 and has a 216.something something IP
[07:36] <kdorf> Damn University, it's not even an issue of not having enough IPs, it's that they firewall all the damn ports
[07:36] <kdorf> bastards
[07:36] <legend2440> v3trae: or you can install it yourself if it doesn't prompt you its called flashplugin-nonfree in synaptic
[07:36] <unop> kdorf, i'm not sure this VPN is implemented correctly - the VPN client should be able to connect to any host in the private subnet the VPN server exist in, firewall or not.
[07:36] <Ademan> djay-il: lol, i actually didn't know that it used it, but awesome that actually helps alot, do you know if they use cmf? i know launchpad at the moment is closed (and subject to some criticism because of that) but i figure some details are known.
[07:36] <v3trae> legend2440: awesome man, thanks so much. Just made the jump from Gentoo and having alot of trouble figuring iout the differences
[07:37] <SuperQ> kdorf: haha
[07:37] <havan> hi, did anyone try Canon MF560 Laser printer with Ubuntu? And is there a list of compatible hardwares that I can check for?
[07:37] <kdorf> unop: There are no other machines in my subnet
[07:37] <Robbie_Crash> kdorf what protocol does the game need?
[07:37] <kdorf> Robbie_Crash: UDP
[07:37] <Godkas> Hey guys, is there an ftp where i can get a DVD iso? the site seems to be pointing me to a live :p
[07:37] <djay-il> Ademan: no, I don't know about CMF. You can probably look it up on Launchpad itself
[07:37] <Robbie_Crash> kdorf do you have the "openVPN" account upgrade?
[07:37] <n2diy> ! hardware | havan
[07:37] <ubotu> havan: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[07:37] <unop> kdorf, so the VPN server and the game run on the same machine?
[07:37] <kdorf> Robbie_Crash: No
[07:37] <SuperQ> kdorf: I could complain for you to my friends that have admin rights on the routers ;)
[07:38] <Godkas> i may have found it
[07:38] <kdorf> SuperQ: Please do :(
[07:38] <Robbie_Crash> kdorf: http://strongvpn.com/faq.shtml "Our standard VPN account uses TCP, we can however do UDP as well with a OpenVPN account upgrade."
[07:38] <havan> n2diy: thanks
[07:38] <kdorf> Robbie_Crash: what a sadness :(
[07:38] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: oh...
[07:38] <kdorf> I guess that answers my question.
[07:38] <Robbie_Crash> yep
[07:38] <n2diy> havan: nada
[07:38] <djay-il> kdorf: and thinking that ssh client probably uses TCP, then here you go
[07:39] <Robbie_Crash> Now, I'm trying to install Ubuntu server 7.10 to a PCI IDE card, that part goes fine, but booting gives me error 17 in Grub. I've tried going through Herman's instructions on the forum, but after chrooting into the newly mounted partition I cannot run grub to finish the process of redoing the device.map. Is it possible to get this running properly on this card, or am I going to be in for neverending issues?
[07:39] <unop> kdorf, does it, i don't see many games using UDP all that much for primary connections
[07:39] <kdorf> Damn, now I feel like a fool.
[07:39] <Godkas> no i think im stupid
[07:39] <Godkas> :/
[07:39] <djay-il> kdorf, unop, Robbie_Crash: I have an idea
[07:39] <parun_> hi, the time command is not accepting flags...for example time -o output ls is giving " -o: command not found" error. Any solutions??
[07:39] <kdorf> unop: Yeah, it does use UDP.
[07:39] <djay-il> however stupid it is
[07:39] <unop> kdorf, junk that VPN server then and get a real one
[07:40] <Robbie_Crash> kdorf, most games use tcp, but lots of them use udp too. Steam for example uses 42000-42020tcp and 42021-42050udp
[07:40] <kdorf> unop: what do you suggest?
[07:40] <mario_> fghj
[07:40] <djay-il> kdorf: IF those users connect to your real IP, maybe some routing on you local part will help?
[07:40] <mario_> jotos
[07:40] <kdorf> djay-il: There's not anything I can do, the ports are all firewalled
[07:40] <djay-il> kdorf: bummer
[07:40] <kdorf> djay-il: The only way to get around it is a tunnel
[07:40] <xpkiller> how do i format my external hdd with gparted?im on ubuntu
[07:41] <djay-il> kdorf: yea, well
[07:41] <djay-il> sorry
[07:41] <unop> kdorf, the whole point of a VPN is to get around firewalls .. :)
[07:41] <kdorf> Don't be, not your fault ^_^
[07:41] <kdorf> unop: Exactly, that's why I have it :)
[07:41] <djay-il> kdorf: hey, we wanted to help :-)
[07:41] <kdorf> I suppose then I have to upgrade to OpenVPN
[07:41] <unop> kdorf, err, i don't think you are making use of the VPN to be honest if firewalls are giving you a headache :)
[07:42] <Robbie_Crash> unop it's a crippled vpn, tcp only
[07:42] <kdorf> unop: it's my only option to get around it. Besides that, it's good for anonymity and also keeps my torrents from being throttled :)
[07:42] <unop> Robbie_Crash, that really isnt an issues because the VPN will encapsulate tunnelled TCP and UDP and ICMP and whatnot
[07:43] <SuperQ> kdorf: see other # for more info
[07:43] <Robbie_Crash> according to the site that provides his vpn, he only gets tcp with the account he has
[07:43] <Robbie_Crash> unop: according to the site that provides his vpn, he only gets tcp with the account he has
[07:43] <Robbie_Crash> *
[07:43] <djay-il> unop: unless it just ignores everything except tcp
[07:43] <kdorf> Yeah, I'm assuming that's what it does then.
[07:43] <kdorf> anybody know of a port scanning site that will scan UDP specifically?
[07:44] <unop> so it isnt a VPN then, if only TCP gets through .. it's a deformed child of ..
[07:44] <djay-il> kdorf: try grc.com
[07:44] <Robbie_Crash> unop essentially that's what it looks like
[07:44] <Rat409> or pcflank
[07:44] <djay-il> IIRC, it can scan all sorts of ports/protocols
[07:44] <kdorf> damn blizzard for using UDP.
[07:44] <hyperstream> dj-fu
[07:44] <hyperstream> sorry mt
[07:44] <kdorf> XD
[07:45] <Rat409> yuh first 1024 ports
[07:45] <djay-il> kdorf: it has some advantages
[07:45] <kdorf> djay-il: I'm sure it probably does, but that doesn't help me at all :)
[07:45] <djay-il> kdorf: they weren't thinking about you. They are thinking about making money.
[07:45] <kdorf> I'll throw out another question then, does anybody have a good VPN service that supports UDP?
[07:45] <djay-il> kdorf: its not your fault
[07:46] <kdorf> djay-il: Of course not. :P
[07:46] <djay-il> :-)
[07:46] <Robbie_Crash> So anyone here that can give me any insight as to why I'm getting grub 17errors, and how to fix it? I've already tried the steps herman outlines on the ubuntuforums.
[07:46] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: what's 17errors?
[07:47] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il Grub error 17, sorry.
[07:47] <Robbie_Crash> just says loading stage 1.5 Error 17
[07:47] <SuperQ> kdorf: yea, the only way to really fix this is to source-route out through the ppp link
[07:47] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: would that be an MBR problem?
[07:48] <Rat409> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml
[07:48] <kdorf> SuperQ: If I understand what you're saying, you mean to route all outgoing traffic through the ppp. I already have it configured to do that.
[07:48] <djay-il> yea, gentoo
[07:48] <Rat409> only real error collection i know of
[07:48] <SuperQ> kdorf: you dont' have to route all traffic out
[07:48] <v3trae> K, having some trouble with sound now, when running alsamixer i get the following error alsamixer: Function snd-ctl_open failed for default: No Such Device. Any ideas/
[07:49] <JKeller1068> Robbie_Crash, I had the same problem with a pe2400 with the onboard perc.  The only fix was a firmware upgrade (for me).
[07:49] <kdorf> SuperQ: I do it for reasons other than playing warcraft: torrents (to prevent throttling) and for anonymity purposes online
[07:49] <SuperQ> kdorf: oh..
[07:49] <SuperQ> I wonder if you could do something silly with iptables
[07:49] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il it's nothing to boot into. It's because I'm using a PCI IDE card, which makes the device enumeration all squirly. So grub's trying to boot from say hd0 but is actually on hd1
[07:49] <DOOM_NX> good morning everyone :)
[07:49] <SuperQ> kdorf: if you know the port numbers, you could do some packet re-writing
[07:50] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: can you change it manually?
[07:50] <globe> can anybody explain to me why Upstart commands always fail from within a cron job?
[07:50] <ay^> yeah
[07:50] <kdorf> SuperQ: I'm not that familiar with networking, I just learned about rerouting traffic specifically for this and that was like two days ago :)
[07:50] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il yeah, but I can't re-run grub after booting into the live cd and then chrooting and rewriting the device.map file
[07:51] <chronographer> well that didn't work. So I still am using nv drivers for my FX5600 while the nvidia drivers cause blurring. using nvidia-glx-legacy causes X to not start at all.
[07:51] <SuperQ> kdorf: yea, I know what needs to be done, but extracting it from my brain right now would be difficult
[07:51] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: why not?
[07:51] <ay^> but you can change it in the grub-menu Robbie_Crash
[07:51] <SuperQ> kdorf: technically I'm still working, primary oncall shift
[07:51] <kdorf> SuperQ: it's no big. I'm sure it's probably because PPTP doesn't support UDP
[07:51] <kdorf> OpenVPN does, so I'll upgrade and it should work.
[07:51] <chronographer> I just looked at nvidia cards on ebay and a higher numbered agp card than mine is >$60 so that is a bit much for a test
[07:52] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il as soon as I do grub --device-map=device.map I'm told grub's not a valid program
[07:52] <Robbie_Crash> nor is sudo
[07:52] <Robbie_Crash> nor is anything else
[07:52] <SuperQ> kdorf: no, pptp supports UDP just fine
[07:52] <Robbie_Crash> which I'm assuming means that it's not finding my var partition.
[07:52] <SuperQ> kdorf: atleast, it should
[07:52] <Robbie_Crash> which means I should probably mount /dev/sda3 to /var in there
[07:52] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: yea, it seems so
[07:53] <SuperQ> kdorf: I just guess no traffic is getting routed out your tunnel that well
[07:53] <Robbie_Crash> gah... what a convoluted mess
[07:53] <chronographer> anyone got ideas on how to diagnose my problem?
[07:53] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: and fix your $path
[07:53] <SuperQ> kdorf: we should really take this to another forum
[07:53] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il I'm not sure how to fix $path without being able to get into the system?
[07:53] <kdorf> SuperQ: I dunno, this guy from the company told me it didn't
[07:53] <kdorf> and I suppose he could be lying
[07:54] <aurehman> hi... i've just install apache2 from apt-get install apache2... where are the web files and httpd.conf file?
[07:54] <kdorf> but being that it IS microsoft
[07:54] <kdorf> it wouldn't surprise me
[07:54] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: oh, no, I meant if you manually mount /var, then you'd probably better add to your $path as well
[07:54] <djay-il> of course you can't do that without getting into the system first
[07:54] <ay^> Robbie_Crash: Still, can't you change what hd grub boots of in the menu of grub?
[07:54] <ay^> By pressing ESC and then E
[07:55] <SuperQ> kdorf: I would have to see tcpdump to tell
[07:55] <djay-il> ay^: no, he doesn't get the menu
[07:55] <Robbie_Crash> ay^ I fail before I even get stage 1.5 loaded
[07:55] <DarkBlade-DX> s
[07:55] <DarkBlade-DX> sd
[07:55] <ay^> oh
[07:55] <Robbie_Crash> yeah :(
[07:55] <kdorf> hmm
[07:55] <Godkas> SuperQ: is there a dvd iso? i only found the livecd
[07:55] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: hold on
[07:55] <Rat409> root (hdx,y)
[07:55] <ay^> you could always try to boot into a livecdsystem
[07:55] <ay^> such as say DSL
[07:56] <kdorf> SuperQ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers port #1723
[07:56] <Rat409> setup (hd0)
[07:56] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: where is the grub installed?
[07:56] <ay^> boot off to memory and then run grub-setup
[07:56] <SuperQ> Godkas: there are some DVD isos.  But you don't need them
[07:56] <SuperQ> Godkas: all the base stuff fits on one CD
[07:56] <Godkas> even wifi
[07:56] <Godkas> ?
[07:56] <Robbie_Crash> ay^ I've already booted into a live system, but I can't run grub after altering my device.map and menu.lst
[07:56] <SuperQ> Godkas: wifi, openoffice, everything
[07:56] <Godkas> nice
[07:56] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il let's say that / is /dev/sda
[07:56] <Rat409> ohh,use the live-cd's grub
[07:57] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: no no, what I mean is on which device grub itself is installed...
[07:57] <SuperQ> Godkas: of course there are 1000s of things in the extended repository
[07:57] <SuperQ> Godkas: but all the commonly used apps are in main
[07:57] <Godkas> i hopes :O
[07:58] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il I'm not sure what you mean? The physical hdd? It's on the pci ide card.
[07:58] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: I'm asking because I'd like to understand the setup you have. So correct me if I'm wrong:
[07:58] <martman> does something overide .profile files? im trying to add a dir to my path var and a echo show it never gets added
[07:58] <Robbie_Crash> hd8 I guess it would be according to grub
[07:58] <djay-il> 1. you have grub on PCI-IDE which is recognized as hd8
[07:59] <djay-il> 2. you have / which is on /dev/sd0
[07:59] <djay-il> 3. When you boot, grub expects itself to be on /dev/hda0 and thus fails
[07:59] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: is that correct?
[07:59] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945&page=26 last post explains everything better than I probably can in here.
[07:59]  * djay-il checks
[08:00] <martman> ?
[08:01] <Robbie_Crash> I have grub on pci-ide which is hd3 _right now_, but in two weeks when all hardware is in, will be hd8
[08:01] <Robbie_Crash> / is on the same partition, same drive, same everything
[08:02] <Robbie_Crash> when I boot, I have no idea what grub expects of itself, but that seems like what it's probably doing
[08:02] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: ok, got the setup
[08:02] <unop_> Robbie_Crash, is this still in the context of "error 17" ?
[08:02] <Robbie_Crash> UncleRemus yes
[08:02] <Robbie_Crash> er
[08:02] <Robbie_Crash> unop_
[08:02] <djay-il> unop yes
[08:02] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: then I believe you need to reinstall grub on pci ide card
[08:03] <unop_> Robbie_Crash, error 17 usually means that the partition is detected but the filesystem it contains is not recognized .. so it'd be better if you can do an offline fsck on the filesystem and/or repair grub there
[08:03] <djay-il> because it does read the grub (as you can get to the 1.5 stage), but doesn't find other stuff.
[08:03] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il I've already reinstalled everything on pci-ide
[08:03] <Robbie_Crash> like totally new partitioning scheme and the whole deal
[08:03] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: no, not everything - just grub
[08:03] <martman> ugggg
[08:04] <unop_> Robbie_Crash, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html
[08:04] <djay-il> it has to be set up correctly with its own scheme. It has to be able to read its files - so it has to read the correct partitions
[08:04] <martman> you cant just add stuff to /etc/environment?
[08:04] <Robbie_Crash> thanks, looking now, hopefully will have it figured out in a bit
[08:04] <martman> how they hell do you add something to path if .profile and that wont work
[08:05] <unop_> martman, ~/.bashrc
[08:05] <Robbie_Crash> Can grub read XFS?
[08:05] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: hm, wow, xfs
[08:05] <Robbie_Crash> haha, is that my issue
[08:05] <Robbie_Crash> ?
[08:05] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: I always use ext2 for grub and save myself a lot of headache
[08:05] <LSD|Ninja> yes it can
[08:05] <unop_> Robbie_Crash, that is your problem, i dont think grub is set to handle xfs
[08:06] <djay-il> unop_: lets check :-)
[08:06] <LSD|Ninja> the problem is mote than likely that that silly grub-install POS ubuntu insists on using doesn't like it
[08:06] <Robbie_Crash> I mean, / and /boot are on the same partition and it is ext3
[08:06] <Robbie_Crash> however, my /var /usr and /home are all xfs
[08:06] <Robbie_Crash> but that shouldn't matter at boot should it?
[08:07] <Robbie_Crash> like, when Grub is doing its deal
[08:07] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: it does
[08:07] <djay-il> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Filesystem.html#Filesystem
[08:07] <ay^> I dunno, but I used to have some minor problems with grub when I had it like that
[08:07] <ay^> tho I had som eother error
[08:07] <ay^> I think
[08:07] <LSD|Ninja> grub will boot from xfs but grub-install won't work on an xfs volume
[08:07] <unop_> Robbie_Crash, even grub needs to understand the filesystem the two stages are on, even it needs to read files, so yes, the filesystem does matter
[08:07] <LSD|Ninja> simple solution: doitch grub-install
[08:07]  * Godkas kicks dvd burner to make it go faster
[08:08] <djay-il> unop_: it supports xfs
[08:08] <unop_> djay-il, i didnt say it doesnt
[08:08] <djay-il> ok
[08:08] <kdorf> Godkas: Not a good idea, you probably just made a coaster.
[08:08] <kdorf> XD
[08:09] <Godkas> lol
[08:09] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: grub is supposed to read /boot
[08:09] <Robbie_Crash> right, and /boot is ext3
[08:09] <djay-il> that's the partition it cares about
[08:09] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: aha!
[08:10] <djay-il> now, ext3 is NOT supported :-)
[08:10] <djay-il> take a look:
[08:10] <Robbie_Crash> gfd... Really?
[08:10] <djay-il> Support multiple filesystem types transparently, plus a useful explicit blocklist notation. The currently supported filesystem types are BSD FFS, DOS FAT16 and FAT32, Minix fs, Linux ext2fs, ReiserFS, JFS, XFS, and VSTa fs.
[08:10] <Robbie_Crash> So I do need to reinstall everything?
[08:10]  * Robbie_Crash explodes
[08:10] <djay-il> no, just /boot probably :-)
[08:10] <ay^> ^^
[08:10] <kate321> Hello, I have Ubuntu 7.10 gusty , when i am trying to play movies on my ubuntu , i can see the movies only in black & white colors ?
[08:11] <Robbie_Crash> yeah, but /boot is now on / because I couldn't get anything to work
[08:11] <djay-il> well,
[08:11] <djay-il> can you create a new partition?
[08:11] <unop_> djay-il, grub works fine with ext3 /boot .. mine is ext3
[08:11] <djay-il> unop_: that was from grub manual
[08:11] <unop_> djay-il, ext3 is nothing but ext2 with a journal slapped on .. and ext2 is well supported
[08:12] <djay-il> unop_: I know, but that's what manual says. I think I had a bunch of problems few years ago with /boot being ext3, so I only use ext2 now
[08:12] <pbne> hey..does anyone here know anything about dbus and hal?
[08:12] <djay-il> pbne: some
[08:12] <unop_> djay-il, $ mount | grep -i "/boot" : /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw,user_xattr)
[08:13] <Robbie_Crash> So I'm back to somwehere, reinstalling grub?
[08:13] <djay-il> unop_: and your grub config is on /boot ?
[08:13] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: yes
[08:13] <unop_> djay-il, off course
[08:13] <pbne> well when I login I get this error 'HAL: failed to initialize' and I've been looking for a fix but none of them applies to my system
[08:13] <djay-il> unop_: RH uses /etc
[08:13] <unop_> why are we talking RH here, this is #ubuntu :)
[08:14] <djay-il> unop_: just to highlight the possibly unusual configurations
[08:14] <pbne> as far as I've understood, its an issue with dbus
[08:14] <djay-il> pbne: I had this once, and the problem was in BIOS settings
[08:14] <Godkas> :O
[08:14] <djay-il> ACPI if I remember correctly
[08:14] <Ollie> Hey guys
[08:14] <unop_> djay-il, if i had an unusual configuration, i would have told you about it .. but no, grub is setup the standard ubuntu way
[08:15] <Ollie> Finally managed to boot Ubuntu
[08:15] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: yea, I'd say so. When you install grub, it usually says "setup ok", which means it could read and understand the partition table
[08:15] <djay-il> unop_: OK :-)
[08:16] <Ollie> I have a Live-CD of 6.02 Ubuntu, that I can boot on my Mac, if I install it onto my Mac how easy is it to uninstall Ubuntu?
[08:16] <pbne> djay-il: I'll try disabling acpi then..brb
[08:16] <djay-il> pbne: or enabling it. I don't remember what exactly that was - check what makes sense to you :-)
[08:17] <Ollie> I have a Live-CD of 6.02 Ubuntu, that I can boot on my Mac, if I install it onto my Mac how easy is it to uninstall Ubuntu?
[08:17] <djay-il> unop_, Robbie_Crash : /boot can be ext3 probably, but I'd use ext2 to see if it helps.
[08:18] <unop_> djay-il, it doesn't really matter, grub will see an ext3 partition as ext2 anyway
[08:19] <djay-il> unop_: oh, ok
[08:20] <Ollie> I have a Live-CD of 6.02 Ubuntu, that I can boot on my Mac, if I install it onto my Mac how easy is it to uninstall Ubuntu?
[08:20] <zero> hey
[08:20] <zero> listen
[08:21] <Robbie_Crash> ugh, well two down. Now I'm error 15
[08:21] <djay-il> ok, back to work :-)
[08:21] <nathan_> For some reason my ubuntu installation doesn't automagically connect to my wlan router on boot, the interfaces file has "auto ath0; iface ath0 inet dhcp" in it, which seems right to me, any ideas what else might be wrong?
[08:21] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: hehe
[08:21] <zero> heh, umm how do I mess with ACPI to make my backlight dim when i unplug my laptop
[08:21] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: that means partitions are ok, but it can't find the files
[08:22] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il yeah, what files?
[08:22] <kdorf> zero: System -> Preferences -> Power Management should do the trick (if you're in Gnome)
[08:22] <djay-il> grub configuration
[08:22] <Ollie> Is anyone good with Mac Ubuntu?
[08:22] <zero> kdorf, that doesnt let me make my backlight dim?
[08:22] <Robbie_Crash> djay-il so what now then?
[08:22] <unop__> Robbie_Crash, error 15 is "file not found" as per http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html
[08:22] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: let me think for a moment
[08:22] <kdorf> zero: That's odd, it shows up on my laptop :(
[08:23] <kdorf> zero: Then again, I'm using Hardy and not Gutsy.
[08:23] <zero> kdorf yeah, it seems my laptop is the only one ive ever seen it not work automatically on
[08:23] <kdorf> so that could be it
[08:23] <zero> kdorf: didnt work on hardy either
[08:23] <Robbie_Crash> unop_ yeah, I just have no idea what to do about that, this is the only difficulty I've had in such matters, and I'm really quite new to Linux
[08:23] <kdorf> interesting.
[08:23] <Robbie_Crash> brb
[08:24] <kdorf> I dunno what to say; my first instinct would be that the issue w/ HPs where ACPI gets disabled could be a culprit, assuming you have one
[08:24] <kdorf> but my lappy is an HP and it works so :'(
[08:24] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: when you're back, take a look at Gentoo's manual: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml, look at error 15
[08:24] <unop__> Robbie_Crash, ok, what it means is that the vmlinuz/initrd image in the isn't found - the best thing you can do is boot the system offline (via a live cd) and attempt to repair grub that way
[08:24] <zero> Toshiba
[08:25] <bullgard4> unop__: In Feisty I programmed 3 of my multimedia keys to call often used application programs. Upgrading to Gutsy lost this functionality. How to program my multimedia keys so that their function will not get lost when upgrading Ubuntu?
[08:26] <A[D]minS> !xmms
[08:26] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[08:26] <A[D]minS> !multimedia
[08:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:27] <stintage> hai guiz wats goin on?
[08:27] <nathan_> when I click "open in browser" in xchat2, it opens lynx instead of firefox because lynx was the last one I installed I guess, how to change that?
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[08:28] <danhans223> does anyone what programs is good for sharing files among users?
[08:28] <stintage> how do i shot web?
[08:29] <zero> hey is it alright to have xubuntu and ubuntu installed congruently?
[08:29] <stintage> My websight wont show up in ubuntu
[08:29] <unop> !language | zero
[08:29] <ubotu> zero: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[08:29] <stdin> nathan_: it should open whatever /use/bin/www-browser points to, you can set it with "sudo update-alternatives --config www-browser"
[08:29] <stintage> wtf seriously
[08:29] <zero> stintage try hitting alt+f4
[08:29] <unop> stintage, language
[08:29] <stintage> it should work fine but it dosent
[08:29] <nathan_> stdin, thanks alot !
[08:30] <zero> hey is it alright to have xubuntu and ubuntu installed congruently?
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[08:30] <Robbie_Crash> unop djay-il I think what it was was that I changed my menu.lst to hd0,1 before, so I think I just need to change it back
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[08:30] <stintage> ops
[08:30] <stintage> ops
[08:30] <stintage> ops
[08:30] <FloodBot1> stintage: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:30] <gurpreet> please tell me some irc channel where i can ask questions related to programming
[08:30] <unop> nathan_, try this - sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubufox firefox
[08:31] <nathan_> stdin, it only gives me lynx and w3m as options thou
[08:31] <stdin> nathan_: ahh, seems that only cli browsers set that, all the GUI ones use x-www-browser
[08:32] <nathan_> hm, so how would I fix it? :)
[08:32] <stdin> nathan_: don't think you can, isn't there an "Open link in Firefox" option?
[08:33] <nathan_> nope, only copy selected link and open in browser
[08:34] <unop> nathan_, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/set-the-default-browser-and-email-client-in-ubuntu/
[08:35] <nathan_> cheers, but now I will have to surf that in lynx xD
[08:35] <ay^> I use elinks myself
[08:35] <corinth> Anyone know of a good tool to minimize programs to the system tray? I want to be able to minimize Evolution to the system tray.
[08:35] <xeer> does Ubuntu have any DLNA support? aka, streaming audio/video to PS3/XBox360?
[08:36] <Sturmeh> :\
[08:36] <Robbie_Crash> unop djay-il THANKS!
[08:36] <Robbie_Crash> ay^ you too!
[08:36] <unop> nathan_, heh, the command you want is - gnome-default-applications-properties
[08:36] <ay^> :D
[08:36] <unop> Robbie_Crash, so what did you do?
[08:36] <nathan_> unop, yes if I was still on gnome :P
[08:36] <ay^> Robbie_Crash: I don't even remember what I did, but your welcome!
[08:36] <Bidget> HELP
[08:37] <nathan_> does it also work if I have fluxbox as my WM ?
[08:37] <unop> nathan_, what are you on?
[08:37]  * ay^ HELPS
[08:37] <Bidget> can someone give me a command to run from a console that will give me back 1600x1200??
[08:37] <Bidget> somehow my screen went to 640x480 and I cant get it back cause my screen isnt big enough for my display options window
[08:37] <unop> nathan_, hmm, i should imagine so - try it out
[08:37] <ay^> Bidget: Yeah that is a nice bug
[08:37] <Robbie_Crash> unop when I was first trying to get everything working, I followed the instructions on that forum post, and edited my menu.lst. But it didn't get changed back after reconfiguring grub, so I needded to go into the live cd, change it from hd3,1 to hd0,0
[08:37] <unop> !res | Bidget
[08:37] <ubotu> Bidget: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:37] <Bidget> ay^, :(
[08:37] <djay-il> Robbie_Crash: sure, np
[08:38] <Bidget> well I dont want to restart it... I just want a command to change my resolution
[08:38] <Robbie_Crash> now I'm not sure that I'm going to have a working system, but at least it's fscking my disks now, so there's a start
[08:38] <Bidget> isnt that possible?
[08:38] <kate321> Hello, does it possible to use "wget " as web crawler ? (offline browser) ?
[08:38] <unop> Bidget, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[08:38] <Bidget> I would click on the link but the webpage will be too big for my monitor
[08:38] <Bidget> thanks
[08:38] <Wobbo> my webcam is built in up-side-down in my laptop, is there any way of configuring v4l to correct this?
[08:38] <djay-il> any hardware people in the house?
[08:38] <ay^> Bidget: mind you I constantly use 800x600 :(
[08:39] <unop> kate321, well, browser or crawler? do you want to interact with it or do you just want to download stuff?
[08:39] <djay-il> I need a help choosing between Q6600 and Q9300
[08:39] <unop> djay-il, best to ask in #hardware i should think
[08:40] <djay-il> unop
[08:40] <Wobbo> djay-il: why not the new intel's? Q9450 andso
[08:40] <djay-il> will try :-)
[08:40] <nathan_> unop, firefox was already set as default there =/
[08:40] <kate321> unop: download stuff
[08:40] <djay-il> Wobbo: well, I'm not after the strongest
[08:40] <nathan_> xchat2.conf doesn't give me a whole lot to work with either
[08:40] <djay-il> I'm after the longevity
[08:40] <unop> kate321, sure, wget is just for that job then
[08:40] <djay-il> I need it to be fine for ~3 years
[08:41] <kate321> unop: does it possible for wget to act like a crawler and to download/store full website on my computer ?
[08:42] <unop> kate321, sure, but it has many options such as filtering, timeouts, retries etc all of which you might need -- best to read the wget manpage for all those options
[08:42] <Wobbo> isn't Q9450 stronger, except when your an overclocker
[08:42] <unop> kate321, but the simplest form is -  wget -r http://example.com/path/
[08:43] <kate321> unop: can i define for wget whice files i would like to extract from the website ? (let say i want just PDF files to be saved)
[08:43] <djay-il> Wobbo: indeed, but its the most expensive one as well
[08:44] <unop> kate321, sure
[08:45] <kate321> unop: thanks for your help , i will try to use the example "wget -r http://example.com/path/" can you tell whice option i should add in order to download just PDF files ?
[08:46] <mo> Hey
[08:46] <mo> Can you kick KrazyWolf out pleasE?
[08:46] <mo> I forgot to log it out before switchin comps
[08:47] <mo> nvm lol
[08:47] <unop> kate321, i think it is -A .. but i am not sure, have a look at.  man wget
[08:47] <mo> Anyways, This is KrazyWolf
[08:48] <DJones> mo type /msg nickserv ghost KrazyWolf <password> which will kill the original one and let you change nicks
[08:49] <mo> wow
[08:49] <mo> I'm in
[08:49] <mo> I got ubuntu to run on my laptop
[08:49] <arquebus> derek, what language is that in?
[08:49] <Ollie> Hey
[08:49] <Ollie> Right
[08:50] <mo> Hey I got into ubuntu :), and that ghost message isn't working :(
[08:50] <Ollie> I am creating a Live-CD of Ubuntu that I can run on my PPC Mac OS 9.2.2 and then I will install it.  How do  uninstall it later, for when I wish to use 9.2.2?
[08:51] <ay^> uninstall a livecd?
[08:51] <djay-il> ok, now back to work for real
[08:51] <djay-il> bye all
[08:51] <Ollie> No, uninstall Ubuntu
[08:51] <ay^> Bye djay-il!
[08:51] <unop> nathan_, have any luck so far?
[08:51] <ay^> Ollie: I dont understand
[08:51] <djay-il> cheers
[08:52] <unop> Ollie, you can't uninstall an operating system -- you either reinstall Mac OS X ontop of ubuntu to erase ubuntu or better, install ubuntu side by side with OS X so you can dual-boot
[08:53] <DJones> !ghost | mo Maybe I typed it wrong, try this
[08:53] <ubotu> mo Maybe I typed it wrong, try this: On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[08:53] <Ollie> unop: Great, thanks
[08:53] <ay^> ^^
[08:53] <nathan_> unop, nope, not yet
[08:53] <sl> ciao
[08:53] <unop> Ollie, there are a great many guides out there on the net that show you how to dual boot OS X and ubuntu/linux
[08:53] <mo> iunno it keeps saying not registered
[08:53] <mo> wait, it isn't registered on this server
[08:54] <unop> nathan_, best thing to do then is.  sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[08:54] <mo> which means someone else might have the name registered?
[08:54] <DJones> mo, thats why, it needs to be a registered nick to work
[08:54] <Ollie> unop: I  will look at one of them, and when I get OS X, I will dual boot Ubuntu and OS X, will a 20GB HDD be enough?
[08:54] <ay^> Ollie: that will be tight
[08:54] <ay^> but it will WORK, but you wont have a lot of space left
[08:54] <mo> but than when i try to change to the nick ,it says its already inuse, and than i do a /whois and it has my info and says that nick is in this channel lol
[08:55] <Ollie> ay^:  Ok, cheers
[08:55] <Ollie> ay^:  Will buy a better one some time
[08:55] <corinth> Is there a way to have different wallpapers for different screens in GNOME? I know that it can't be done with a native tool, but can it be done with compiz-fusion or something else?
[08:55] <unop> Ollie, it also depends on how you partition the disk .. you'll have to be wise in how you split it to make the most out of the space
[08:56] <chmac> Noob question, is the next release of Ubuntu on track for 9 days time?
[08:56] <DJones> mo: I doubt you can do anything until you get back to the other computer, you could try asking in #freenode, they may be able to help, but I can't see it - As far as they would know, it could be somebody else
[08:56] <Ollie> unop: Will you be able to talk me through it, after I download it?
[08:57] <chmac> I'm a Fedora user but considering trialling Ubuntu and I'm keen to start with a new release if it's about to come out
[08:57] <unop> Ollie, unfortunately, i've only used a mac once and have no idea about its internals :) but if you use a guide/howo written for this purpose, you should be ok, if not one of us in here should be able to clarify anything you don't understand
[08:57] <Ollie> chmac: Yeah, only 10 days :)
[08:57] <chmac> Ollie: 9 according to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown :)
[08:57] <Ollie> unop: Cheers!  You have been great help
[08:57] <mike> is there an equivalent to a chkdsk for a wubi install?
[08:57] <Ollie> chmac: Well it was 10 yesterday :P
[08:58] <gramm> Any C++ gurus out there?  I am getting an exception about reading out-of-range of a vector when I check the range of the vector before reading it.  See here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63257/
[08:58] <diplomat> Hi everyone, looking for someone to help me get my sound working
[08:58] <unop> mike, within linux itself (and within wubi consequently) - fsck
[08:58] <chmac> :)
[08:58] <mike> ok ty
[08:58] <millertime_018> hey i'm trying to install windows at the same time with ubuntu
[08:58] <Ollie> Can someone (who knows Mac well) check this guide and tell me if it will be OK for me to refer to? http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-148617.html
[08:58] <millertime_018> can anyone tell me
[08:58] <unop> gramm, please try ##c++
[08:59] <millertime_018> does /dev/sda1 correspond
[08:59] <millertime_018> with partition 1?
[08:59] <Ziroda1> Anyone know a drug management application or any similar application for a Hospital?
[08:59] <diplomat> Hi everyone, looking for someone to help me get my sound working
[09:00] <millertime_018> what computer do you have diplomat?
[09:00] <gramm> unop: thanks
[09:00] <millertime_018> if its acer 5920 you're in luck
[09:00] <diplomat> i have assembled system. An asus g33 based board and intel processor
[09:00] <millertime_018> oh... no nope. idk
[09:01] <unop> Ollie, http://trainque.com/blog/2006/10/21/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-osx/
[09:01] <millertime_018> do you know much about partitioning?
[09:01] <millertime_018> does /dev/sda1 coorespond to partition 1
[09:01] <mike> i get a warning message that it may cuase sever file damage but it said I ran  e2fsck and not fsck which I enterd
[09:01] <Ollie> unop: Thanks unop!
[09:01] <millertime_018> HELLO?
[09:01] <diplomat> sda's are just names
[09:02] <chmac> Does Ubuntu offer torrent downloads?
[09:02] <diplomat> Yes,chmac
[09:02] <millertime_018> but see i'm trying to install windows at the same time with ubuntu
[09:02] <diplomat> i also have windows vista and xp on the same drive as ubuntu
[09:03] <diplomat> first i installed Xp, then vista and then ubuntu
[09:03] <millertime_018> and when it comes up to the install menu i need to know which one is which so i can install it and it won't overwrite stuff
[09:03] <lun4tic> hi
[09:03] <diplomat> i am not an expert to guide u if u are already in the middle of something
[09:04] <diplomat> i can only tell u what worked for me from the beginning
[09:04] <diplomat> Hi everyone, looking for someone to help me get my sound working
[09:04] <fisherman> I'm on a really crappy computer now, and about to set up ubuntu. Any tips for optimal performance when i'm installing ubuntu?
[09:04] <fisherman> like, what's a swap drive :s
[09:05] <lun4tic> does someone know how to remap mousebuttons?
[09:05] <DJones> !swap | fisherman
[09:05] <ubotu> fisherman: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[09:05] <lun4tic> i have a mx revolution from logitech and the buttons work under gnome but i want to remap them so i have the middle mousebutton mapped to button 9
[09:05] <diplomat> swap is memory on the harddisk and is used by ubuntu when ur ram memory is over
[09:06] <fisherman> Also, i've only got an old ubuntu 7.04 disk. when i install that will i be able to install updates up to the current version?
[09:06] <diplomat> its better to install a new version from scratch according to me
[09:06] <DJones> fisherman: yes you will, you'll be offered the chance to upgrade to 7.10 and then to 8.04 when its released
[09:07] <fisherman> Sounds great, thanks DJones.
[09:08] <chmac> Does one get the torrent files from torrent.ubuntu.com ? I take it /dvd/ is the normal release?
[09:08] <unop> fisherman, define "crappy" there in terms of hardware specifications
[09:09] <fisherman> 1.8ghz p4 with a nvidia 6200 running on agp 4x.
[09:09] <fisherman> with 512mb of SD ram
[09:09] <fisherman> oh, and a 160w psu :)
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> fisherman: sound like a fin pc to mew
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> me*
[09:10] <unop> fisherman, that's more than what i have and i didnt have to tweak much to get ubuntu working ok - but i did anyway
[09:10] <Shyde> chmac that's the hardy torrent though, which is still beta
[09:10] <fisherman> friends have beastly computer, and they rub it in my face :(
[09:10] <diplomat> Does anyone know how to carry out Step 4 of this tutorial? http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Quick_Install
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> fisherman: if it does what you need at a reasonable speed its just right
[09:10] <unop> fisherman, it depends again on what you want the computer to be doing
[09:10] <chmac> Shyde: Yeah, I'm guessing a new one comes out in 9 days right? :)
[09:10] <Shyde> chmac: yep
[09:10] <fisherman> unop: i'd like to be using it for some development but i also play games.
[09:10] <chmac> :)
[09:11] <fisherman> like quake, counter-strike.
[09:11] <fisherman> nothing new and fancy.
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> diplomat: type sudo in front of the commands
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> fisherman: then its fine
[09:11] <fisherman> ^_^
[09:11] <unop> fisherman, hmm, i don't play games but i should imagine that your machine is quite capable of playing those two there
[09:11] <arstanj> hi
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> fisherman: you dont have to have the latest and fastest
[09:11] <arstanj> how to to change number of open files? (ulimit -n) permanently systemwide?
[09:12] <arstanj> /etc/security/limits.conf?
[09:12] <arstanj> write exactly what?
[09:12] <arstanj> * hard nofile 8192?
[09:12] <ay^> is it possible to launch applications in a screen on log-in? or boot?
[09:12] <unop> diplomat, there shouldnt be a need for you to compile alsa modules unless ubuntu does not have the module for your sound-card, is that the case?
[09:12] <unop> ay^, is that screen as in GNU screen?
[09:13] <diplomat> root@The-C2D-Machine:~# sudo modprobe snd-ens1371
[09:13] <ay^> uhm I think so, the app screen
[09:13] <diplomat> WARNING: Error inserting snd_ac97_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[09:13] <diplomat> FATAL: Error inserting snd_ens1371 (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/sound/pci/snd-ens1371.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[09:13] <ay^> :)
[09:13] <lun4tic> i have a mx revolution from logitech and the buttons work under gnome but i want to remap them so i have the middle mousebutton mapped to button 9. how do i do that?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> diplomat: why not just install alsa from repos?
[09:13] <lun4tic> are there any graphical tools to remap mousebuttons?
[09:13] <diplomat> i messed up my alsa last night and now sound is not working
[09:14] <ay^> unop: uhm I think so, the app screen
[09:15] <diplomat> here is my thread. I havent got any reply yet, so trying to mess up more myself....until i reach a stage where i have to install ubuntu all over again....sigh  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4715589#post4715589
[09:15] <unop> diplomat, well, what were you doing? it's easier to troubleshoot that than to compile your modules from source, chances are the new modules won't work if configurations don't permit
[09:15] <daire> when i went to sleep last night i left ubuntu running with deluge, pidgin, irssi, and blizzard patch downloader but when i woke up this morning the screen was blank which wasn't just a screensaver because it stayed blank even when i moved the mouse and pressed keys, i tried to turn it off by pressing the power down button on my pc, when i came back a few minutes later nothing had happened so i had to remove the power cable. when i turned it on i went into grub
[09:16] <daire> (oh and i'm running in low graphics mode now - should i do some maintenance?)
[09:16] <mengzihan> hello,every body
[09:16] <phrozen77> hi all, how comes that upon "apt-get install somepackage" i always have unmet dependencies?
[09:16] <nathan_> unop, got it: x-www-browser was invalid, it was set to firefox, not firefox-3.0 :)
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> daire: dont pull plugs from computers that are on they dont like it
[09:16] <daire> ActionParsnip: i figured that but it wouldn't turn off dude
[09:16] <kindofabuzz> kick it
[09:17] <daire> :O
[09:17] <kindofabuzz> lol
[09:17] <hyperstream> daire:  wow patch downloader?
[09:17] <daire> yes
[09:17] <ay^> unop: Now I have done some researc and it is GNU screen I'm winsing about
[09:18] <DJones> !repo | phrozen77 it might be that its trying to install something that needs an additional repo to be added
[09:18] <ubotu> phrozen77 it might be that its trying to install something that needs an additional repo to be added: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[09:18] <daire> i don't know if it finished, irssi is all i have running right now in recoery mode
[09:18] <mingers> hi, how can i message other users who are logged onto the system? (listed in who)
[09:18] <daire> !maintenance
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about maintenance - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <daire> !recovery
[09:18] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[09:19] <daire> !crash
[09:19] <ubotu> For help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[09:19] <ay^> I could configure it to start my screen sessions at startup, but I could only fit one app in each screen doing that..
[09:19] <hyperstream> daire: wine or cedega?
[09:19] <daire> wine
[09:19] <unop> ay^,  'screen command' launches the command in the first (and only) window - is that what you want?
[09:19] <phrozen77> DJones, i doubt libc6 and similar things need additional repos
[09:19] <ay^> well sort of
[09:19] <ay^> here is the long story
[09:20] <daire> hyperstream: do you think wine is the catalyst for the crash?
[09:20] <ay^> I connect to my workstation from my very old and superduper-old laptop using SSH and I run most of my apps form there in CLI
[09:20] <hyperstream> daire: i have no idea- anything is possible
[09:20] <ay^> But everytime I reboot the workstation I have to manually start each CLI app in their respective screen-session before Im good to go
[09:20] <DJones> phrozen77: you might just need to update your sources list, try sudo apt-get update before you try installing
[09:20] <Wobbo> anyone with experience configuring an uvcvideo driver, to do an horizontal flip (since my webcam is built up side down.
[09:20] <daire> hyperstream: also can i log back in in normal mode, or stay in recovery?
[09:20] <ay^> And I would enjoy having it automated
[09:21] <daire> is there some maintenance i'm supposed to do after a crash and removing the power cable?
[09:21] <phrozen77> DJones, you bet i did
[09:21] <daire> ay^: can't you use session manager to start things in terminal?
[09:21] <diplomat> here is my thread. I havent got any reply yet, so trying to mess up more myself....until i reach a stage where i have to install ubuntu all over again....sigh  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4715589#post4715589
[09:21] <hyperstream> daire: it sounds like your display card or settings or something dropped out
[09:21] <hyperstream> daire id boot into normal mode, and just reconfigure the screens and graphics
[09:22] <DJones> phrozen77: strange, I can only think there's something wrong either with you sources.list, or with the server you're downloading from, what are you trying to install
[09:22] <daire> but they're already configured
[09:22] <ay^> well I guess I could start the actuall screen session, with one app with such a command "screen -S programs1 irssi"
[09:22] <daire> i have it using nvidia restricted driver at max resolution
[09:22] <unop_> ay^, look into creating screen config files and/or the .screenrc file
[09:22] <ay^> daire: but the other programs i want in that screen wouldn't be in it
[09:22] <phrozen77> DJones, libapache2-mod-php5 - but that happens with every other package too so something is borked
[09:22] <daire> (on 7.04 i hadn't configured it properly for max res)
[09:22] <ay^> aha
[09:22] <ay^> unop_: thanks I'll get right on it
[09:23] <daire> ok guys i'm going to relog in normal mode
[09:23] <ay^> hmm perhaps I could just write some small shellscript and have that be run at startup..
[09:23] <DJones> phrozen77: All I can suggest is that you pastebin your sources list and if anybody can see whats wrong
[09:23] <unop_> ay^, http://www.pervasivecode.com/blog/2007/06/12/gnu-screen-and-my-screenrc/
[09:24] <ay^> unop_: thanks a bunch!
[09:25] <trippss> so i'm trying to diagnose my gateway laptop, whose synaptics touchpad doesn't work on return from standby, though it does work on return from hibernation. i've consulted the forums and played with the /sys/bus/platform/drivers/i8042/bind, etc. to no avail. ideas? How can I properly diagnose what's actually happening?
[09:25] <trippss> i'm running gutsy gibbon, btw
[09:25] <unop_> ay^, you could use a shell-script, sure but it's easier with a screen config file
[09:26] <phrozen77> DJones, http://pastebin.ca/985720 <- there you go
[09:26] <trippss> also note after coming out of standby, restarting x windows doesn't help
[09:26] <phrozen77> but i wonder if theres something wrong
[09:28] <DaveTarmac> hi all. I have managed to connect to my workplace over a PPTP VPN, but now I need to connect to a Mac with AFP shares. Can anyone tell me what I need to make this happen?
[09:28] <Ollie> When I install Ubuntu onto my Mac, and a week later I install OSX will I loose my Ubuntu data?
[09:28] <Ollie> In other words, will I still be able to boot Ubuntu?
[09:29] <arvind_khadri> how do i run a file without having to type "./"
[09:29] <arvind_khadri> Ollie you would need to re-install grub
[09:29] <diplomat> arvind bhai, which format?
[09:30] <Ollie> arvind_khadri: What the hell is grub :P
[09:30] <arvind_khadri> diplomat, means
[09:30] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, you mean an executable file?
[09:30] <arvind_khadri> Ollie, its a program which helps you booting into your choice of OS
[09:30] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, yeah
[09:31] <Ollie> arvind_khadri: But if I don't install grub, will it just boot OSX?
[09:31] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, to be precise a shell-script
[09:31] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, if you are trying to run an executable file it has to be in your path, otherwise you have to specify the path... hence the "./"
[09:31] <chmac> Anyone know if I can subscribe to ubuntu-announce by RSS instead of email?
[09:31] <diplomat> ollie, to make things easy, install OSX before instatlling ubuntu
[09:31] <chmac> It's probably google group archived somewhere is it? I might get an RSS feed that way...
[09:31] <arvind_khadri> Ollie, diplomat id correct
[09:32] <Ollie> diplomat, The thing is I don't have OSX yet,  and I only want Ubuntu until I get OSX
[09:32] <DJones> !info libc6 dapper
[09:32] <ubotu> libc6 (source: glibc): GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.5 (dapper), package size 4481 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[09:32] <arvind_khadri> Ollie then first install ubuntu
[09:32] <Ollie> Will do!  Cheers!
[09:32] <arvind_khadri> oliie get back to us when you have OSX
[09:32] <diplomat> Ollie, then if OSX corrupts ur GRUB, then there are various method to get ur grub back
[09:33] <Ollie> Ok, will worry about that later :P
[09:33] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, how to edit path
[09:33] <diplomat> cd FOLDER NAME
[09:34] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, if you want to do it permanently you can do it by adding a line in your ~/.bashrc file
[09:34] <DJones> phrozen77: I can't see why its not working, libc6 is supposed to be in main and you've got that in sources.list, the only time i've found something like that was when I had a non standard repo and I had 2 versions conflicting so neither was installed, I disabled the non standard repo and it worked, maybe try disabling the dotdeb repo's you've got
[09:34] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, lets assume put all your scripts in ~/scripts
[09:34] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, the file is in my home directory
[09:35] <laffinet> Hi I'm experiencing quite a long pause/freeze at shut down/restart. Does anyone know what causes this ?
[09:35] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, ok, then add "export PATH=$PATH:/home/USERNAME"  (sans quotes) to your .bashrc file
[09:36] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, do i need to add it to a particular section or just anywhere in the file
[09:36] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, though I recommend you make a ~/scripts folder instead... so your whole home directory won't run executables
[09:36] <DaveTarmac> I have managed to connect to my workplace over a PPTP VPN, but now I need to connect to a Mac with AFP shares. Can anyone tell me what I need to make this happen?
[09:37] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, anywhere is fine
[09:37] <dave11> !justify
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about justify - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, having your whole home directory in your path isn't particularly secure
[09:37] <prince_jammys> if you make a 'bin' directory in your home, it gets added to your path
[09:38] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, it didnt work
[09:38] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, you have to open a new terminal    .bashrc gets read then
[09:39] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, yeah done
[09:39] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, now about making things more secure
[09:39] <mjbrooks> prince_jammys, ah... neat trick   <mental note>
[09:39] <prince_jammys> move the script to /usr/local/bin
[09:40] <prince_jammys> if you don't want your home to be in your path
[09:40] <prince_jammys> or make a bin directory in your home, and put the script there
[09:41] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, I agree with prince_jammys
[09:41] <arvind_khadri> prince_jammys, the shell opens in the home directory right
[09:41] <prince_jammys> you won't have to type the full path if you put in in $HOME/bin
[09:41] <prince_jammys> it will search in /home/arvind/bin for the name of the program, and run it if it's there
[09:42] <dave11> I wish there was a button to turn  no scrypt on and off without having to restart the browser
[09:42] <mjbrooks> prince_jammys, the only thing I don't like is that it prepends ~/bin to the path instead of tacking it onto the end
[09:42] <ookal> hi
[09:43] <arvind_khadri> prince_jammys, so now no need to edit PATH or basrc???
[09:43] <mjbrooks> arvind_khadri, nope
[09:43] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks, so now no need to edit PATH or basrc???
[09:43] <gokorn> hi
[09:43] <prince_jammys> arvind_khadri: your .bashrc will check if bin is in your home. no, you don't have to change .bashrc if you do it that way
[09:44] <unop__> arvind_khadri, modify PATH in ~/.bashrc if thats what you are asking
[09:44] <yao_ziyuan> what are online linux magazines for advanced users? linuxjournal?
[09:44] <unop__> arvind_khadri, and then source ~/.bashrc afterwards.  source ~/.bashrc
[09:44] <arvind_khadri> mjbrooks now it isnt workin
[09:44] <unop__> arvind_khadri, echo $PATH
[09:45] <unop__> is the directory in which you placed the executable in $PATH ?
[09:45] <prince_jammys> actually, it's .profile that puts bin in your PATH
[09:45] <arvind_khadri> unop_how do i edit PATH variable...its in home directory
[09:45] <gokorn> when i open add/remove programs i get this error : databas locked - adept installer: another process is using the packaging system database probaly some other adept application  or apt-get or aptitude
[09:45] <gokorn> ?
[09:46] <unop__> arvind_khadri, open up ~/.bashrc .. make modifications, save and run.  source ~/.bashrc
[09:46] <arvind_khadri> gokorn, kill any instance of apt/synaptic/aptitude running
[09:46] <gokorn> its fresh from reboot no program running
[09:46] <gokorn> ?
[09:46] <unop__> arvind_khadri, if the executable is in ~ .. then a line like this should do.  export PATH=$PATH:~
[09:47] <arvind_khadri> unop_, the executable is in home/bin
[09:47] <prince_jammys> arvind_khadri: create a directory 'bin' in your home, put the script there and then type "source .profile"
[09:47] <unop__> arvind_khadri, then.  export PATH=$PATH:~/bin
[09:47] <unop__> arvind_khadri, err, sorry
[09:47] <prince_jammys> that's already in .profile in ubuntu, i believe
[09:47] <arvind_khadri> unop_, prince_jammys thing worked
[09:48] <arvind_khadri> unop_, prince_jammys thanks a lot
[09:48] <prince_jammys> if [ -d ~/bin ] ; then
[09:48] <prince_jammys>     PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
[09:48] <prince_jammys> fi
[09:48] <prince_jammys> that's in .profile (at least in mine)
[09:48] <arvind_khadri> gokorn, do ps -e | grep "apt" ,do you get a output
[09:48] <gokorn> notting
[09:49] <arvind_khadri> prince_jammys, the thing you said will be permamnent
[09:49] <prince_jammys> arvind_khadri: look in your .profile and see if the lines i pasted are there
[09:49] <prince_jammys> arvind_khadri: if they are, it's permanent
[09:49] <godkas> Ugh Gross yall didnt tell me itd install gnome :P
[09:50] <zerlneo> hello guys, im a new user to this OS, i just want to ask if is it possoble to create a normal account that has no password or is it possible to make autologin everytime my pc starts?
[09:50] <arvind_khadri> prince_jammys, yeah its there
[09:50] <prince_jammys> arvind_khadri: then you're set
[09:50] <laffinet> gokorn: still no luck ?
[09:50] <arvind_khadri> zerlneo, its not possible
[09:51] <arvind_khadri> gokorn, do ps -e | grep "dpkg" ,do you get a output
[09:51] <unop> zerlneo, run.  sudo gdmsetup   # there's an option in there somewhere to set a user to automatically login
[09:51] <arvind_khadri> prince_jammys, thanks
[09:51] <gokorn> still notting
[09:51] <prince_jammys> !aptfix | gokorn
[09:51] <ubotu> gokorn: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[09:52] <sachi> hi guys
[09:53] <sachi> i have several problem with ubuntu
[09:53] <cheesypieces> hi guys, my screen flashes black every so often, any ideas what could be causing this?
[09:53] <arvind_khadri> sachi, ask
[09:54] <gokorn> ok it works now. tnx
[09:54] <sachi> first is when i want to resize a window the pc blocks
[09:55] <sachi> and the other is that i cant hear any sound only if i put headphones i hear
[09:56] <arvind_khadri> sachi did you check master volume and check alsamixer
[09:57] <godkas> gnome sux
[09:57] <godkas> :(
[09:57] <sachi> yes
[09:57] <arvind_khadri> godkas, what happened
 zerlneo, run.  sudo gdmsetup   # there's an option in there somewhere to set a user to automatically login  <--- is this has a options also to limit the user not to install or access system files? coz im thinking to use this OS for my net cafe on august
[09:59] <pbne> what does suse' /etc/sysconfig/network/scripts correspond to in ubuntu?
[09:59] <Bacta> hi I'm trying to show my gf the new Ubuntu wallpaper, the one with the bird
[09:59] <Bacta> can someone link me to it?
[09:59] <ompaul> pbne, don't know that there is a one to one mapping - what functionality do you want
[09:59] <sachi> alsa is on an the volume also
[10:00] <arvind_khadri> sachi, which version of ubuntu
[10:00] <unop__> zerlneo, by default only users who exist in the admin group have access to sudo (needed to become root to install software, etc) so create users who are not members of the admin group
[10:00] <sachi> 7.10
[10:00] <sachi> oddalot_, j
[10:00] <oddalot_> huh?
[10:01] <arvind_khadri> sachi check the volume levels in the players
[10:01] <sachi> ther y r ok
[10:01] <mjbrooks> sachi, is your soundcard and AC'97?
[10:01] <arvind_khadri> Bacta, you may find it in www.gnome-look.org
[10:01] <pbne> ompaul: well im trying to set up some bluetooth stuff, and the guide im reading places a script in this dir, to set up a virtual network interface, bnep0
[10:02] <sachi> how can i chek it
[10:02] <mjbrooks> sachi, lspci | grep Audio
[10:03] <nathan_> can someone who's wifi works on boot nopaste me his /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:03] <gokorn> ok when i installed kubuntu there was no question to set up root password? where to set it up?
[10:04] <prince_jammys> !root
[10:04] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:04] <kakoonia> hey.. :) Can someone tell me whats GTK2? i got ubuntu 7.10, is it installed? i say i got gtk+2 engines installed on..
[10:04] <sachi>  ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[10:04] <zerlneo> thankx unop... bear w/ the noob....
[10:04] <ompaul> !bluetooth | pbne
[10:04] <ubotu> pbne: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:05] <kakoonia> !GTK2
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <arvind_khadri> !GTK2
[10:05] <arvind_khadri> !GTK
[10:05] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[10:05] <kakoonia> lol
[10:05] <prince_jammys> gokorn: just use sudo COMMAND. if you need a longer session as root, use sudo -i or sudo -s. once you're done, type "exit"
[10:05] <gokorn> ok
[10:05] <sachi> any help
[10:05] <arvind_khadri> kakoonia, you can find lots of info bout it in wikipedia
[10:05] <ompaul> gokorn, or CTRL D - which will exit a terminal or a shell once at the command line
[10:06] <mjbrooks> sachi, looking
[10:06] <rockysynergy> I added Windows XP to my laptop and now it is a dual boot machine. The only thing is I need to reset the time every time I log into either Windows or Ubuntu. Can  any of  you tell me where and how I can set the time once for all?
[10:06] <prince_jammys> gokorn: man sudo to see the difference between sudo -i and sudo -s.  they both give you a session as root
[10:06] <arvind_khadri> rockysynergy, edit menu.lst
[10:07] <arvind_khadri> rockysynergy, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:07] <kakoonia> arvind_khadri , Thanks, didnt find anything concretic there, the question came up because i tried to install Ardour (digital audio workstation) and i couldnt..
[10:08] <arvind_khadri> kakoonia whats the error you are getting??
[10:08] <sachi> thx
[10:09] <mjbrooks> sachi, you have PCM in the mixer turn on and up right?
[10:09] <kakoonia> arvind_khadri , im not getting an error, i tried to install it through the Add Programs, and it didnt let me mark V on it.
[10:09] <sachi> my connection broke
[10:09] <rockysynergy> rvind_khadri, which field? I only see a timeout field there. And I think it is for how long before the grub will boot the machine into the default OS.
[10:09] <mjbrooks> sachi, you have PCM in the mixer turn on and up right?
[10:10] <arvind_khadri> rockysynergy, you should see another entry related to time in it
[10:11] <arvind_khadri> rockysynergy, what do you want to do
[10:11] <jordi_> hola
[10:11] <sachi> hdi ati sb alsa mixer
[10:11] <jordi_> alguien me puede ayudar
[10:11] <prince_jammys> !es | jordi_
[10:11] <ubotu> jordi_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[10:11] <arvind_khadri> kakoonia maybe its not available for your architecture,why dont u try apt-get it??
[10:11] <kakoonia> im doing it right now..
[10:11] <kakoonia> :D
[10:12] <prince_jammys> he's talking about the actual time, not the menu timeout
[10:12] <kakoonia> arvind_khadri : just made me wonder if its good to try and install it when it didnt let me do it through the add/remove.
[10:12] <rockysynergy> arvind_khadri, Right now every time I log on I need to reset the system time. I want to set the system time.
[10:13] <arvind_khadri> rockysynergy, that you need to set in BIOS
[10:13] <sachi> is that ok
[10:13] <arvind_khadri> kakoonia hmm no harm anyways
[10:13] <thelonecabbage> I'm getting 1MB/s from my hard disk testing with hdparm
[10:13] <kakoonia> arvind_khadri : Thanks dude.
[10:14] <GIn> 1MB/s is slow :\
[10:14] <rockysynergy> arvind_khadri, thanks!
[10:14] <thelonecabbage> yeah
[10:14] <arvind_khadri> kakoonia, rockysynergy welcome
[10:14] <thelonecabbage> and setting it to use dma returns an error
[10:14] <thelonecabbage> root@JustinAlexander:~# hdparm -d1 /dev/sda
[10:14] <thelonecabbage> /dev/sda:
[10:14] <thelonecabbage>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[10:14] <thelonecabbage>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[10:14] <FloodBot1> thelonecabbage: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:14] <unop__> rockysynergy, do you dual-boot with windows?
[10:15] <prince_jammys> rockysynergy: how are you resetting the time?
[10:15] <prince_jammys> are you using 'hwclock'?
[10:15] <arvind_khadri> rockysynergy, his prob got solved
[10:15] <godkas> @_@ gnome is trippin me out man... feels like im on a mac
[10:16] <unop__> arvind_khadri, i dont think it has, you asked him to change the time in the BIOS .. and that's not the end of the story, the next time windows or linux shuts-down, the time could be changed
[10:16] <sachi> any help
[10:16] <mjbrooks> sachi, is that a laptop?
[10:16] <sachi> yes
[10:16] <mjbrooks> sachi, Acer?
[10:16] <kakoonia> !jack
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <sachi> toshiba
[10:17] <thelonecabbage> has anyone here had experience setting hdparm with SATA drives?
[10:17] <arvind_khadri> unop__, after he sets his bios he needs to re-config the time in system,wouldnt that solve it
[10:17] <rockysynergy> unop__,Yes I dual boot with Windows.
[10:17] <mjbrooks> sachi, here's a guy with an Acer who fixed his.. it has the same soundcard  http://asprakash.blogspot.com/2007/10/sound-card-problem-in-acer-aspire-4520.html
[10:17] <unop__> arvind_khadri, well, it should but if he dual-boots with windows, then it's another problem
[10:17] <mjbrooks> sachi, I'm assuming this will be fixed with Hardy
[10:18] <sachi> ill give a try
[10:18] <sachi> thx a lot
[10:18] <arvind_khadri> unop__, hmm lets see
[10:18] <mjbrooks> sachi, its essentially an update to alsa
[10:18] <unop__> rockysynergy, see what irony says here - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82774.html
[10:18] <mjbrooks> sachi, gl
[10:18] <sachi> thx
[10:19] <unop__> arvind_khadri, linux sets the hwclock with UTC values, windows seems to use localtime .. you either have to get windows to use UTC or linux to not
[10:20] <mjbrooks> unop__, stupid windows :/
[10:20] <sachi> but i dont have nvidia graphic card i have ati
[10:20] <unop__> mjbrooks, indeed
[10:21] <mjbrooks> sachi, skip that nvidia part... its not needed
[10:21] <kakoonia> arvind_khadri : you got any idea whats JACK? cause i tried to run it And : " Ardour could not connect to JACK."
[10:22] <arvind_khadri> kakoonia JACK is some sound related software
[10:22] <sachi> ok
[10:22] <arvind_khadri> !JACK > kakoonia
[10:22] <mjbrooks> sachi, the graphics card isn't related to the sound card.. he just went overboard in his description of what he did
[10:22] <kakoonia> ok.. ill look for it.. Thx again.
[10:23] <sachi> thx
[10:26] <sachi> tell me how to download alsa-driver-1.0.15rc3.tar.bz2
[10:26] <zero__> hey how do i make it so when my laptop unplugs the screen goes a bit dimmer, conserving battery?
[10:27] <popey> zero__: look at gnome power manager - it has options for that
[10:27] <zero__> popey where is that?\
[10:27] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, how do i make a shortcut to my home folder on the desktop?
[10:27] <popey> zero__: in gnome System -> preferences _.power management
[10:27] <viviersf> Hi guys, is there any ncurses based network admin tools for ubuntu server ?
[10:28] <zero__> popey in there, there is NO option for screen dimming on battery power
[10:28] <zero__> just about killing the display and poweringoff the machine
[10:28] <mojo> How do I force my filesystem to re-check on the next boot?
[10:28] <popey> zero__: what version of ubuntu?
[10:28] <zero__> i just want my screen to automatically dim when i unplug
[10:28] <zero__> popey 710
[10:29] <aminos> linuxac
[10:29] <popey> zero__: same here, in the "On battery Power" tab, there is "dim display brightness by" option?
[10:29] <neil> Hey Guys, i changed my /etc/hostname yesterday
[10:29] <zero__> popey nope
[10:29] <neil> Now when i go to run sudo (since i just restarted)
[10:29] <neil> it says sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[10:29] <popey> zero__: is there an "on battery power" tab?
[10:30] <zero__> popey, yeah, in there is just put computer to sleep when inacitve fore and such
[10:30] <mjbrooks> neil, it was called ubuntu before??
[10:30] <popey> zero__: is it a dell?
[10:30] <zero__> popey, no its a toshiba
[10:30] <neil> mjbrooks:  no it was Neil-Desk
[10:30] <popey> zero__: could be that brightness isn't supported by linux on your laptop..
[10:31] <popey> zero__: ..could you add the brightness applet to the panel and see fi that works?
[10:31] <neil> mjbrooks:  any ideas?
[10:31] <hyperstream> guys im trying to install ubuntu 7.10 onto my lap top - it gets stuck at: Cat: /var/lib/acpi-support/system-version: no such file or directory, same directory as that for files: system-manufacturer / system-product-name / bios-version. then gets stuck at: saving VESA STATE
[10:31] <zero__> popey, it doesnt do anything, am i just screwed?
[10:32] <popey> zero__: does it have a red cross through the brightness icon?
[10:32] <mjbrooks> neil, you probably have to fix the name in your /etc/hosts file
[10:32] <zero__> popey, yeah it does
[10:32] <popey> zero__: then brightness isn't supported on your particular setup
[10:32] <zero__> damn, well, ok, thanks popey
[10:33] <popey> zero__: there may be a fix/workaround. i dont know
[10:33] <kelvin911> anyone knows the command to check if my partition is ext2 or ext3?
[10:33] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, how do i make a shortcut to my home folder on the desktop?
[10:33] <popey> zero__: or indeed it may be fixed in 8.04 - out in 10 days
[10:33] <mjbrooks> neil, it should have a line that says 127.0.0.1 NEWNAMEHERE
[10:33] <Alick> ..
[10:33] <DJones> !hostname | neil
[10:33] <ubotu> neil: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[10:33] <xoqa> java sites aren't working even after installing icedtea-java7-plugin
[10:33] <popey> kelvin911: the mount command will tell you
[10:33] <titan__> hi all, I am talking to you from my new ubuntu pc, goodbye XP.  I need to watch videos on youtube ect, what extention is the best Adobe Flash or Gnsah?
[10:34] <phrozen77> DJones, now i've deleted the dotdeb entries
[10:34] <nathan_> what's ath0:avahi ?
[10:34] <kelvin911> thx
[10:34] <hyperstream> guys whats a decent CD writing application to burn iso files ?
[10:34] <xoqa> i'm using firefox 3.0b5, it seems to be the default firefox that was installed.
[10:34] <mjbrooks> hyperstream, I like k3b
[10:34] <hyperstream> for gnome ?
[10:35] <viviersf> hyperstream: brasero for gnome
[10:35] <mjbrooks> hyperstream, but then... I'm using kubuntu ;)
[10:35] <phrozen77> DJones, http://pastebin.ca/985778
[10:35] <hyperstream> :P
[10:35] <hyperstream> thanks
[10:35] <kelvin911> how come when i install deli linux it doesnt have a choice of formating it as ext3?
[10:35] <hyperstream> guys im trying to install ubuntu 7.10 onto my lap top - it gets stuck at: Cat: /var/lib/acpi-support/system-version: no such file or directory, same directory as that for files: system-manufacturer / system-product-name / bios-version. then gets stuck at: saving VESA STATE
[10:35] <popey> kelvin911: it's the default on ubuntu
[10:36] <DJones> phrozen77: did you rerun sudo apt-get update after removing the dotdeb repo?
[10:36] <nathan_> can I remove/delete avahi?
[10:36] <kelvin911> i mean in deli linux
[10:36] <phrozen77> DJones, more than once
[10:37] <titan__>  hi all, I am talking to you from my new ubuntu pc, goodbye XP.  I need to watch videos on youtube ect, what extention is the best Adobe Flash or Gnsah? PM me please so i can bother you with more questions if you dont mind
[10:37] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, how do i make a shortcut to my home folder on the desktop?
[10:37] <arvind_khadri> titan__, the missing plugins will be asked for,flash player is the one all prefer
[10:38] <DJones> phrozen77: I'm at a loss, it looks like a conflict because of the dotdeb repo, but I don't know how to fix it, I'd suggest asking again in the channel with last pastebin to see if anybody else can help you
[10:38] <titan__> thanks
[10:38] <kelvin911> how to mount so that user can write to the hda1?
[10:39] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911,  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[10:39] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, but first mkdir hda1 in media
[10:39] <kelvin911> no
[10:39] <kelvin911> i am in other linux
[10:39] <xoqa> is there any work being done to get the processing language in a repository?
[10:39] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, how do i make a shortcut to my home folder on the desktop?
[10:39] <kelvin911> i got it mount, but normal user cant write there
[10:40] <kelvin911> i have to login as root and copy the file there
[10:40] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, set the value of rw in fstab
[10:40] <phrozen77> anyone knows why i have a dependency to a dotdeb package when the dotdeb repo has been removed and apt-get update has been ran? http://pastebin.ca/985778
[10:40] <dra> hello
[10:40] <kelvin911> is this right ? /dev/hda1/   /mnt/dos   vfat   rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002   0   0
[10:40] <Gatestone_> Which was the tools that show disk as pie chart?
[10:40] <dra> i want to keep track of all chats
[10:40] <kelvin911> i have this in fstab
[10:41] <dra> any one know how to keep track all chats in log
[10:41] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, umask should be 007
[10:41] <kelvin911> but only root can write file there
[10:41] <kelvin911> ok
[10:41] <kelvin911> whats the different?
[10:41] <kelvin911> umask=002 umask=007 ???
[10:41] <dra> i installed here Untagle
[10:41] <gokorn> what is good program for wifi?
[10:42] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, read man umask
[10:42] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, the umask is fine, but you need to remove the trailing / from /dev/hda1
[10:42] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: 002 allows other users to read and execute files. 007 doesn't allow other users to do anything
[10:42] <kelvin911> ??
[10:42] <kelvin911> so 002 or 007?
[10:42] <gokorn> what is good program for wifi?
[10:42] <kelvin911> and what is trailing?
[10:42] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: 002 is ok, depending on your needs
[10:42] <Gatestone_> ok, Accessories / Disk Usage Analyzer
[10:43] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, /dev/hda1   /mnt/dos   vfat   rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002   0   0
[10:43] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: make /dev/hda1/ into /dev/hda  (remove the last slash)
[10:43] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, how about your sources.list
[10:43] <titan__> can someone pm me please to help me set up things in ubuntu
[10:43] <kelvin911> i change it already
[10:43] <kelvin911> jsut typo i type in here
[10:43] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: /dev/hda1, sorry
[10:43] <mjbrooks> prince_jammys, not hda~!!
[10:43] <mjbrooks> lol
[10:44] <kelvin911> ??
[10:44] <DistroJockey> !register | titan__
[10:44] <ubotu> titan__: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[10:44] <prince_jammys> then i don't know. the fstab line looks fine
[10:44] <kelvin911> not hda?
[10:44] <prince_jammys>  /dev/hda1
[10:44] <titan__> ok will do
[10:44] <kelvin911> maybe because it is deli linux
[10:44] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, the line should be /dev/hda1/   /mnt/dos   vfat   rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002   0   0
[10:44] <prince_jammys> hehe
[10:44] <mjbrooks> ugh
[10:44] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, the line should be /dev/hda1   /mnt/dos   vfat   rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002   0   0
[10:45] <mjbrooks> prince_jammys, you jinxed me
[10:45] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: let me show you the line i have for my vfat partition
[10:45] <kelvin911> yes it is /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos vfat rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002 0 0
[10:45] <kelvin911> on my computer i dont have fat so i dont know how to set it to other computer
[10:46] <prince_jammys>  /dev/sda3   /mnt/share vfat uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077  0   0
[10:46] <prince_jammys> that's my line
[10:46] <kelvin911> my computer has UUID=6AA0A5CBA0A59DD7 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[10:46] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, ive removed the dotdeb repo from it and apt-get update'd afterwards more than once
[10:46] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: your umask is fine, by the way
[10:46] <kelvin911> umask=077?
[10:46] <prince_jammys> read above
[10:46] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, once run sudo apt-get install -f once
[10:47] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: YOUR umask is fine
[10:47] <titan__> .
[10:47] <kelvin911> but why i cant copy file to that /mnt/dos ??
[10:47] <kelvin911> i can only copy file there when i am root
[10:47] <kelvin911> but not normal user
[10:47] <mojo> Hi.  Sry if I missed an answer earlier, I had to run a.f.k.  My /home hdd had a problem, and i need to fsck it.  How do I make it do fsck at next boot since i can't umount it (busy) to do it ??? Thanks!
[10:48] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, doesnt help it seems
[10:48] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: i have no idea. maybe try removing the "rw,user" options
[10:48] <arvind_khadri> !aptfix > phrozen77
[10:48] <mjbrooks> one of mine looks like UUID=3908DB3C16FB1510 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,umask=077,gid=46 0       1
[10:49] <phrozen77> !aptfix
[10:49] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[10:49] <kelvin911> whats different between 077, 007 ?
[10:49] <kelvin911> i didnt change the setting since installation
[10:49] <mludi> hi, is there a mechanism for /etc/skel that is able to replace variables defined in the skel template files. e.g. to set the username inside a skel template file to the user whos home directory is being created?
[10:49] <mjbrooks> !umask
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <finn> owner/group/all
[10:49] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: 077 rwx------ 007 is rwxrwx---  002 is rwxrwxr-x
[10:49] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, doesnt help either
[10:50] <gluer> Q: what app can i use that would be a replacement for daemon tools for ubuntu?
[10:50] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, the umask is the reverse of the permissions you want it to have
[10:50] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, it gets subtracted
[10:50] <kelvin911> what if i want rwxrwxrwx ??
[10:50] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: 000
[10:50] <kelvin911> ok
[10:50] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, umask=000
[10:50] <guyvdb_> I have always used a laptop with nvidia chipset. I am looking to buy a new laptop that uses ATI. I know that ATI drivers have improved greatly. Any advice on buying a laptop with ATI to run Ubuntu.
[10:50] <kelvin911> thats what i want
[10:51] <finn> 777
[10:51] <aLone> hy, i need bugs, if u have, pm me, thx friend
[10:51] <studiotrinity> hi gang, having a problem kicking up bristol synth and brighton gui in gutsy. Im getting /dev/midi errors cant really decipher them, any able to help out with some sagely wisdom?
[10:51] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: are you remounting everytime you make these changes?
[10:52] <mjbrooks> aLone, you need bugs? what?
[10:52] <kelvin911> what do u mean prince?
[10:52] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, what do you want to do exactk\ly
[10:52] <mojo> studiotrinity: just in case no-one can help u here, there is an #ubuntu-studio (or is it #ubuntustudio) chan where you might find help
[10:52] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: remount the partition after you change fstab
[10:52] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, he means you need to remount the partition for the changes to take effect
[10:52] <kelvin911> i jsut reboot
[10:52] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, install libapache2-mod-php5 for example
[10:53] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: well, that'll do it, but shouldn't be necessary
[10:53] <kelvin911> can reboot take effect?
[10:53] <DistroJockey> gluer: to read an .iso?
[10:53] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, this isn't windows.. no need to reboot
[10:53] <kelvin911> too much work
[10:53] <kelvin911> i just reboot it
[10:53] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, then why did ypu remove the repo it belongs to
[10:53]  * mjbrooks slaps his forehead
[10:53] <phrozen77> ?
[10:53] <kelvin911> i get use to dos
[10:53] <kelvin911> reboot and reboot
[10:53] <hyperstream> guys im trying to install ubuntu 7.10 onto my lap top - it gets stuck at: Cat: /var/lib/acpi-support/system-version: no such file or directory, same directory as that for files: system-manufacturer / system-product-name / bios-version. then gets stuck at: saving VESA STATE
[10:53] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: it's faster to just remount. you don't have to wait
[10:53] <arvind_khadri> !install
[10:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[10:54] <kelvin911> dont know the command
[10:54] <studiotrinity> mojo>>thanks, i tried there earlier and received no reply, so maby its not appropraite posting again so soon, thought id give the more active regular ubuntu irc a go, thanks tho
[10:54] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: there might be a faster way, but you can just: sudo umount /media/blah && sudo mount /media/blah
[10:54] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, use a different cd,did you check the cd for errors
[10:54] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, sudo umount /mnt/dos && sudo mount /mnt/dos
[10:54] <kelvin911> for some reason sudo doesnt work in deli linux
[10:54] <hyperstream> this is the 3rd cd
[10:54] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, then why did you remove the repo it belongs to
[10:55] <hyperstream> yes no issues with the cd's
[10:55] <kelvin911> i am not working on ubuntu
[10:55] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: why are you in this channel?
[10:55] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, the dotdeb repos?
[10:55] <kelvin911> because linux channel people are too cocky dont wanna help put noobs like me
[10:55] <hyperstream> From the installer's boot prompt, enter
[10:55] <hyperstream> linux acpi=off
[10:55] <kelvin911> *out
[10:55] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  how do i do that?
[10:55] <zhangdan> what's this?
[10:55] <jayde_drag0n> hey if anyone can help it would be appreciated. I just followed the howto to install mplayer and the mplayerplug-in.. got it all configured.. but when i goto apple.com to watch some trailers (which was why i installed it) i get audio and no video. and none of the forum posts i am pulling up on that issue are particularly helpful.. can someone assist and tell me what step i may have forgotten?
[10:55] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, yes
[10:55] <DJones> arvind_khadri: That was my suggestion to phrozen77 to see whether it was conflicting with a version in the normal repo's
[10:55] <hyperstream> hit f6 ? im alreading putting in irqpoll to solve another issue
[10:56] <phrozen77> also libapache isnt in dotdeb if i recall right
[10:56] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: then do the umount and mount command that mjbrooks posted as root (without sudo)
[10:56] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, well, this is an ubuntu channel, so we have to assume you are using ubuntu
[10:56] <zhangdan> and who are you?
[10:56] <kelvin911> i ask in #linux guys keep telling me to google
[10:56] <kelvin911> i google already but its too technical
[10:56] <zhangdan> ...
[10:56] <zhangdan> ="=
[10:56] <arvind_khadri> Djones i think the package is in that repo or he may have to enable other repos
[10:56] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, su -c umount /mnt/dos && mount /mnt/dos
[10:56] <raymond> hi all
[10:57] <YeTr2> kelvin911: man fstab
[10:57] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, when you boot from cd you should get an option to check cd for errors
[10:57] <ComputerHermit> hi
[10:57] <kelvin911> whats that && do?
[10:57] <ComputerHermit> ;-)
[10:57] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, it buys a round of drinks
[10:57] <kelvin911> && = and?
[10:57] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: just runs the second command only if the first succeeds
[10:57] <adam___> hi
[10:57] <mosno> mjbrooks, rofl
[10:57] <mmm4m5m> question: I have 2*256 RAM. I am using windows virtual machine (VirtualBox) with 320 RAM. Always I have to take extra care to ensure there is enough memory other way VirtualBox "abort" the virtual machine. If it show "out of memory" or use swap partitions it is better. Does anyone understand the problem? How can I prevent "aborting" my VM? I did read something about kernel parameters but I did not understand it.
[10:57] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, enable the universe and multiverse
[10:57] <adam___> Just a quick Q
[10:57] <raymond> im trying to get my video working can anybody help me with that ? trying to set my resolution to 1680x1050@60
[10:57] <zhangdan> this is first time i use ubuntu
[10:57] <mjbrooks> mosno, heh
[10:57] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, pastebin your sources.list
[10:58] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  all 3 discs are fine, i have burnt 3 discs
[10:58] <mmm4m5m> sorry: I have 3*256 ram (anyway, it is only details)
[10:58] <hyperstream> From the installer's boot prompt, enter
[10:58] <hyperstream> linux acpi=off
[10:58] <hyperstream> im wanting to know how to add this successfully
[10:58] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, try googling
[10:58] <kelvin911> the umask=000 works so fine !! thanks guys
[10:58] <zhangdan> i can't input chinese
[10:58] <adam___> I have a RTL8185L WiFi card, I am running 64bit ubuntu and am trying the ndiswrapper, do I need the normal win 98 drivers or the 64bitxp drivers
[10:59] <bullgard4> [GNOME] What is the function of the Alt+F6 shortcut?
[10:59] <kelvin911> i asks the #linux channel and no one give me this simple solution
[10:59] <kelvin911> keep telling me man this man that
[10:59] <DJones> arvind_khadri: The original problem was that libc6 was being rejected, but thats supposed to be in installable from the the dapper repo's
[10:59] <kelvin911> google this google that
[10:59] <mjbrooks> hyperstream, to turn off acpi at the cd boot you choose add boot options and type in noacpi
[10:59] <adam___> I have a RTL8185L WiFi card, I am running 64bit ubuntu and am trying the ndiswrapper, do I need the normal win 98 drivers or the 64bitxp drivers
[10:59] <arvind_khadri> DJones, purge build-essential
[11:00] <arvind_khadri> DJones, that can be done from the cd
[11:00] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: change your fstab to /dev/hda1 and remove the user,rw option and then remount
[11:00] <adam___> I have a RTL8185L WiFi card, I am running 64bit ubuntu and am trying the ndiswrapper, do I need the normal win 98 drivers or the 64bitxp drivers
[11:00] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, purge your build-essential
[11:00] <DJones> arvind_khadri: its not for me, it was phrozen77's original error message
[11:00] <kelvin911> damn i got all kinda error tring to copy files...
[11:00] <arvind_khadri> DJones, :) i meant it for him only...
[11:00] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, perhaps it's because you're asking questions that are so basic they've been asked many many times before
[11:01] <raymond> i ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg since i messed up my xorf.conf while trying to get it to work
[11:01] <adam___> Help plz, I have a RTL8185L WiFi card, I am running 64bit ubuntu and am trying the ndiswrapper, do I need the normal win 98 drivers or the 64bitxp drivers
[11:01] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: paste the fstab line here again
[11:01] <adam___> Help plz, I have a RTL8185L WiFi card, I am running 64bit ubuntu and am trying the ndiswrapper, do I need the normal win 98 drivers or the 64bitxp drivers
[11:01] <Gatestone_> Why lsb_release says "no lsb modules"?
[11:02] <jayde_drag0n> does anyone have time to help another person tonight?
[11:02] <mjbrooks> prince_jammys, kelvin911> yes it is /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos vfat rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002 0 0
[11:02] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, how ? what?
[11:02] <phrozen77> :)
[11:02] <adam___> Help plz, I have a RTL8185L WiFi card, I am running 64bit ubuntu and am trying the ndiswrapper, do I need the normal win 98 drivers or the 64bitxp drivers
[11:03] <kelvin911> how to clean trash can?
[11:03] <ComputerHermit> adam___ http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=39356160
[11:03] <kelvin911> where the files are move to when delete?
[11:03] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, sudo dpkg --purge build-essential
[11:03] <mjbrooks> !patience > adam___
[11:03] <kelvin911> dont have trash can icon in desktop in deli linux
[11:03] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, and then reinstall?
[11:03] <KrimZon> kelvin911: is it running gnome?
[11:03] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, purge does it :)
[11:03] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: this is the UBUNTU channel
[11:04] <kelvin911> i cant get help on other channel
[11:04] <adam___> computerhermit: They say use 98 but I tried and it didnt work, I just wondered if the 64bit drivers were needed
[11:04] <kelvin911> hope there are more expert linux user here can help put
[11:04] <kelvin911> out
[11:04] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, well, usually the trash can is under the counter in a deli
[11:04] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri,  dpkg --purge build-essential
[11:04] <phrozen77> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove build-essential which isn't installed.
[11:04] <DistroJockey> mjbrooks: lol
[11:04] <kelvin911> counter?
[11:04] <mjbrooks> BWAHAHAHA
[11:04] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, its to be done with sudo
[11:04] <phrozen77> i am root
[11:04] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: one thing is to ask about something universal like /etc/fstab. don't ask about desktop environments of other OS's/distros
[11:04] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, is deli gnome based?
[11:05] <kelvin911> no not gnome
[11:05] <kelvin911> something icevm?
[11:05] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, if it still says not installed then sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:06] <master_> linux
[11:06] <ComputerHermit> adam___ usually I just do a search in the forums and I find a solution I just done a search on your chip set
[11:06] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, installing now
[11:06] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, the specifics of bologna linux or whatever sliced meat it is you have there is off topic here
[11:06] <adam___> I dont know how to IRC, so if your going to help me, can you somehow make a window popup
[11:06] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, this would set things right i guess,after this install what you wanted to
[11:06]  * jayde_drag0n is a GIRL who needs assistance and would very much like to be next in the queue for help :-)
[11:06] <ay^> jayde_drag0n: just ask your question
[11:06] <prince_jammys> oh wait, a GIRL!
[11:06] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, we'll see :)
[11:06] <mjbrooks> !ask > jayde_drag0n
[11:06] <adam___> computerhermit, I and unsure, I have used the forums in the past, this is my last resort
[11:07] <jayde_drag0n> lol i already did... i was trying to be patient
[11:07] <ay^> oh
[11:07] <mjbrooks> prince_jammys, they're ALL girls
[11:07] <ay^> dont be
[11:07] <ay^> ;)
[11:07] <hyperstream> jayde_drag0n: mail or female i dont think it matters, ask what you have to ask :)
[11:07] <jayde_drag0n>  I just followed the howto to install mplayer and the mplayerplug-in.. got it all configured.. but when i goto apple.com to watch some trailers (which was why i installed it) i get audio and no video. and none of the forum posts i am pulling up on that issue are particularly helpful.. can someone assist and tell me what step i may have forgotten?
[11:07] <ComputerHermit> adam___ you just have to try and read and look dude this is what I do
[11:07] <hyperstream> male* how to tell your a geek : mail
[11:07] <ay^> hyperstream: :D
[11:07] <adam___> but all I want to know, do I need thhe 64bit drivers?
[11:07] <jayde_drag0n> hyperstream: yes but i notice i get ignored for hours until i mention i'm a girl.. and i don't think a plague of lolcats will help me
[11:08] <adam___> I have spent 3 weeks loooking
[11:08] <ay^> jayde_drag0n: well most people get ignored in here, this is a busy chan and you need to be persistent to get help
[11:08] <mjbrooks> jayde_drag0n, yeah, apple.com is a pain, Stevey sure likes his quicktime junk
[11:08] <ay^> ask several times, but not spam
[11:08] <ay^> I'ts a thin line
[11:08] <ComputerHermit> http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=39356160  adam___ I understand try googleing your chip set as well
[11:09] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: still the same problem. its still trying to cat the acpi-support stuff
[11:09] <jayde_drag0n> ay^: i know.. but i also noticed that if i say too much.. then people get on my case about being patient.. so i'm trying to make everyone jhappy.. be nice.. and not be annoying :-D
[11:09] <ComputerHermit> just chill and maybe someone els with more knolage then me will help you
[11:09] <adam___> computerhermit, I wouldnt have come here if I had found my answer
[11:09] <adam___> thanks
[11:09] <ComputerHermit> k
[11:09] <kelvin911> how to delete all *.db file?
[11:09] <prince_jammys> jayde_drag0n: what are they, flash videos?
[11:09] <sachi> anyone can guide me how to install dock aplication
[11:09] <ay^> jayde_drag0n: Yep I know, as I said, it's a thin line between being persistent and nagging
[11:09] <cwillu> jayde_drag0n, I just mention my real name, and let people jump to the wrong conclusion :p
[11:09] <mjbrooks> jayde_drag0n, once ever other or third screen is a good pace
[11:09] <kelvin911> how to delete all thumb.db file in sub dir?
[11:09] <kelvin911> or all dir?
[11:10] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream whats the exact problem??
[11:10] <cwillu> jayde_drag0n, you might find that the forums or the mailing lists cover those sorts of situations better
[11:10] <jayde_drag0n> prince_jammys:  its the (i'm assuming) flash on apple.com for their trailers
[11:10] <mosno> kelvin911, find /some/dir -type f -iname thumbs.db -exec rm {} \;
[11:10] <gooody> how do i upgrade pidgin version in ubuntu gutsy?
[11:10] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: find . -name '*.db' -exec echo {} \;  (if you like what you see, then change the "echo" to "rm"
[11:10] <hyperstream> in the boot prompt options linux acpi=off is writen just as that or within '' - the website tells me to att linux acpi=off, i also need to add in irqpoll as well
[11:11] <daire> unbuntu went black and asked and gave me the log in prompt when i was using firefox, deluge, pidgin and irssi. when i logged back in and tried to open firefox it's telling me it's already open and i must close it first or restart my system
[11:11] <kelvin911> what if i want to del all *.db i can find in my all hard disks and all usb disks?
[11:11] <hyperstream> Boot Options: t=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash --  is what i see when i hit f6 at the boot of the cd(with start or install  / oem install / memory test etc)
[11:11] <daire> i was half way through a download. son of a x
[11:12] <hyperstream> so would it become: t=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash -- 'linux acpi=off' irqpoll ?
[11:12] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: find / -name '*.db' -exec rm {} \;
[11:12] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: careful
[11:12] <jayde_drag0n> soo no one knows why its doing that?
[11:12] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, do you get some options to edit the entries??
[11:12] <mjbrooks> hyperstream, t=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz quiet splash -- noacpi irqpoll
[11:13] <ay^> jayde_drag0n: nopes, but I guess it's what steve wants it to be :)
[11:13] <daire> it happened again
[11:13] <hyperstream> mjbrooks: tried that still cats the acpi support
[11:13] <ay^> jayde_drag0n: I mean in windows you'd need quicktime for it
[11:13] <daire> i pressed the minimize button on firefox and my screen went black and i got the login prompt
[11:13] <ay^> quicktime alternative sometimes doesnt cover it
[11:13] <kelvin911> how about find / -name 'thumbs.db' -exec rm {} \; ????
[11:13] <kelvin911> i just wanna remove those stupid thumbs.db file from windows
[11:13] <jayde_drag0n> ay^: does mplayer have a channel? and :-P if i wanted a crappy OS i would be using windows
[11:13] <ay^> kelvin911: but that wouldn't delete all *.db
[11:13] <sachi> anyone can guide me how to install dock aplication
[11:13] <prince_jammys> kelvin911: that should delete every file name 'thumbs.db' that your user has the right to delete
[11:13] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: no
[11:14] <bahr> How do I change my refresh rate to 60Hz for my monitor? I can only choose 50Hz in the "Screen Resolution", and in Windows, I know, it can run 60Hz
[11:14] <mmm4m5m> Help: System monitor show 0 bytes swap memory used. Is this correct?
[11:14] <hyperstream> i get option F6 for Other options, which then lets me edit the boot prompt thingo
[11:14] <ay^> jayde_drag0n: I have no idea, but probably does, tho i think some google-fu would do the trick since I bet you aint the only one watching trailers over there
[11:14] <Revan76> hello
[11:14] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream why dont you order the cd's or ask a LUG near to you
[11:15] <jayde_drag0n> allright well thanks everyone for at least responding :-)
[11:15] <kelvin911> someone should write a script to clean up the mess from windows
[11:15] <mjbrooks> jayde_drag0n, those commercials are cute but aren't worth the aggravation.
[11:15] <Revan76> can someone connect to Crysis-Online@irc.quakenet.org plz? we need one more ppl to register
[11:15] <ay^> jayde_drag0n: I didn't mean that you should switch to windows, just noticed that it only worked with the specific app provided by steve
[11:15] <mmm4m5m> Help: System monitor show 0 bytes swap memory used. Is this correct?
[11:15] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: what would that change?
[11:16] <DistroJockey> mmm4m5m: yep, all good :)
[11:16] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream i feel it would help you install :s
[11:16] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, that means you're good to go
[11:16] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  ive just used the cd to install this box right here --- burn 2 more thinking maybe it was the disc, which its not
[11:16] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: whats so different from the one you download off ubuntu's site?
[11:17] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream they never worked for me...but the one they sent always worked
[11:17] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: I have only 3*256 ram, I am running virtual machine. Before I start it I have to shutdown firefox, gedit,etc,etc. If swap is not used it is very bad for me
[11:17] <hyperstream> you must have a messed up writer then :)
[11:17] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, the image should be a good one...and from net always use the alternate one
[11:17] <hyperstream> these disc are fine
[11:17] <hyperstream> noacpi doesnt stop it
[11:17] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, hmm yeah might be...try the ubuntu forums
[11:17] <DistroJockey> mmm4m5m: swap will get used when you run out of RAM
[11:18] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, your system starts using sway when it runs out of normal memory... gnereally this is bad because swap is many times slower than normal memory
[11:18] <hyperstream> nolapic might work tho
[11:18] <hyperstream> :)
[11:18] <DistroJockey> mmm4m5m: as long as swap is enabled ofcourse
[11:18] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: I never run out of memory, instead my ubuntu hang up
[11:18] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: ... or virtual machine hang up
[11:19] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, how much memory are you telling the virtual machine to take?
[11:19] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: swap is acceptable because at least I need firefox + virtualbox + pidgin at the same time
[11:19] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, did it work??
[11:20] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: 320 ram for virtual machine, so VirtualBox take 360 ram.
[11:20] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, build-essential has been installed but installing libapache2-mod-php5 still doesnt work
[11:20] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, try setting it to 256 for the VM
[11:21] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: right now it is 570 MB used (of 755 MB total). If I start, firefox it will takes 150 MB more.
[11:21] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, whats the error now
[11:21] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: sure, I will reduce virtual machine memory... but do you think my settings are wrong? Can I force linux to use more swap (not for virtual machine but for everything else)
[11:21] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, still the same, unmet dependencies
[11:21] <phrozen77> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:22] <phrozen77>   libapache2-mod-php5: Depends: php5-common (= 5.1.2-1ubuntu3.10) but 5.2.5-0.dotdeb.2 is to be installed
[11:22] <phrozen77> E: Broken packages
[11:22] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: or do you think it can't find swap partition (I do not know which log file to check)
[11:22] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, if you don't have enough memory for the primary OS the whole house of cards falls
[11:22] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, install php5-common
[11:22] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, becuse then both the primary OS _AND_ the VM OS suffer
[11:22] <phrozen77> root@www:~# apt-get install php5-common
[11:22] <phrozen77> Reading package lists... Done
[11:22] <phrozen77> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:22] <phrozen77> php5-common is already the newest version.
[11:22] <phrozen77> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:22] <FloodBot1> phrozen77: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:23] <arvind_khadri> phrozen jus a min
[11:23] <godkas_> so im trying to get kubuntu because i cant stand gnome
[11:23] <godkas_> -.-
[11:23] <tanner> anyone know how to decompress sgn?
[11:23] <DistroJockey> mmm4m5m: if you can pastebin the contents of   /etc/fstab   we can see if swap exists
[11:23] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, and part of what gets swapped by the OS is the VM itself  and bad things happen from there
[11:24] <arvind_khadri> phrozen install php5-dev
[11:24] <sachi> anyone can help me pls to install docks
[11:24] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: ok, so you think everything is normal. I did worry what if my swap partition is not visible/available for linux. Will paste fstab, as I see it is ok.
[11:24] <phrozen77> php5-dev is already the newest version.
[11:25] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, hmm very weird
[11:25] <phrozen77> indeed
[11:25] <sachi> anyone can help me pls to install docks
[11:25] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, can i have a look at sources.list
[11:25] <sachi> no help today
[11:25] <phrozen77> sure. 1sec
[11:25] <arvind_khadri> sachi what do you want
[11:25] <DistroJockey> !awn | sachi
[11:25] <ubotu> sachi: awn is <Reply> Avant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that positions itself at the bottom of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and in Universe in Hardy
[11:26] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63265/
[11:26] <sachi> thx
[11:26] <DistroJockey> np
[11:26] <mmm4m5m> I even do not know, is it possible linux to run without swap
[11:26] <nathan_> how do I disable avahi once and for all ?
[11:26] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, http://pastebin.ca/985827
[11:27] <DistroJockey> mmm4m5m: anythings possible, but not always a good idea ;)
[11:27] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey: that is why, if I did wrong installation (few months back) I want to fix it
[11:27] <sachi> is there a command to write in terminal and to install dock
[11:27] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, hmm if you apt-cache the package do you get the package
[11:28] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, you can see how much swap you have by doing df -h /dev/sda8
[11:28] <the-killer> who can help me to recover grub ??
[11:28] <the-killer> !grub
[11:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:28] <DistroJockey> mmm4m5m: looks fine, I assume your swap partition is atleast as big as your amount of RAM, plus a little more? Not that that matters as you don't seem to be hitting the swap
[11:29] <arvind_khadri> DistroJockey, it should be twice
[11:29] <DistroJockey> arvind_khadri: why?
[11:29] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, apt-cache what? search?
[11:29] <d31`home> Hey guys, i'm wondering which FS is better for storing files that vary from 300mb to 8gb in size, most of the files are being read off t he drive, not written to the drive, any recommendations?
[11:30] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, yeah
[11:30] <Mba7eth> anyone know if the Packege "empty-expect" is availabe in repository ?
[11:30] <brett> ext3 is fine for that as long as you plan on keeping it within linux
[11:30] <phrozen77> root@www:~# apt-cache search libapache2-mod-php5
[11:30] <phrozen77> libapache2-mod-php5 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)
[11:30] <phrozen77> php5-cgi - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (CGI binary)
[11:30] <arvind_khadri> DistroJockey, as it gives better performance
[11:30] <d31`home> brett, yeah i do
[11:30] <ikonia> d31`home: you'll be fine with ext
[11:30] <brett> can always install the drivers on windows if necessary
[11:30] <DistroJockey> arvind_khadri: and why is that?
[11:30] <brett> but, those are ugly, i dislike them :|
[11:30] <mmm4m5m> DistroJockey, mjbrooks: as I remember, swap must be 1GB. Please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63268/
[11:30] <d31`home> thanks guys
[11:31] <ikonia> mmm4m5m: swap does not have to be 1 GB
[11:31] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, swap can be 2bytes if you want
[11:31] <arvind_khadri> DistroJockey, well everyone says that,never went to dig the fact,but swap should be twice the ram
[11:31] <mmm4m5m> ikonia: I have enough HDD space.. that is ok, as long linux use it :)
[11:31] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, wouldn't makes much sense of course
[11:31] <ikonia> mmm4m5m: you can let swap be what ever size you feel appropriate for your machine
[11:31] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, try installing something else...does it get installed
[11:32] <brett> yeah it depends, if you have a super heavy ram machine (anything even 2GB+) you rarely touch the swap unless doing something *heavy*
[11:32] <sachi> ive tried some commands but its says Couldn't find package awn-core-applets
[11:32] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, you said you have 3x256 in that?
[11:32] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63269/ is the error im having - care to have a peek?
[11:32] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, cowsay gets installed just fine
[11:32] <phrozen77> -_-
[11:32] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks, DistroJockey: yes, 3*256. So summary: details in paste bin look ok, right? No need to worry? Maybe have to search more in virtual box forums
[11:33] <brett> sachi, grab the .deb for awn from getdeb.net
[11:33] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, dont let the system configure it
[11:33] <DistroJockey> mmm4m5m: looks fine to me
[11:33] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, well you only gave yourself 375MB of swap it seems
[11:33] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  i have: noacpi acpi=off apm=on irqpoll
[11:34] <mmm4m5m> ok, thank you very much.
[11:34] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  as my extra boot options
[11:34] <DistroJockey> arvind_khadri: the main thing is to have room in swap for all the RAM contents for hibernation
[11:34] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: even 375 swap... it is used 1% only. So that is ok (meaning I do not need bigger)
[11:34] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: how do i stop the system from configuring it ?
[11:34] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, hmm ... it works for me
[11:34] <brett> you actually hibernate your system ever distro? even on my laptop I rarely find a use for that
[11:34] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, what works for you?
[11:34] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, that's what it is current;y using... do you have your VM running and firefox?
[11:35] <Mba7eth> anyone know if the Packege "empty-expect" is availabe in repository ?
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, jus switch off all your network devices
[11:35] <phrozen77> installing libapache2-mod-php5?
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, the package you mentioned
[11:35] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: yes, but only firefox and virtual machine. And problem is bigger when I run first firefox and then virtual machine
[11:35] <arvind_khadri> phrozen77, its  php5-apache2-mod-bt
[11:36] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: as in with the keyboard shortcut or in bios ?
[11:36] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, perhaps you need a lighter weight distro, like xubuntu
[11:36] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: plus if I run few more things after some time suddently virtual machine enter aborted state which is bad. I am always afraid to run something more togehter with virtual machine
[11:36] <phrozen77> arvind_khadri, libapache2-mod-php5 should be installed
[11:36] <phrozen77> but whatever
[11:36] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, physically switch off all the network devices
[11:36] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, what VM is it?
[11:37] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: virtual machine. I will add more RAM soon (it is P4 laptop)
[11:37] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, what VM program? VMWare?
[11:37] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: it is virtual box, linux inside
[11:37] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, ah
[11:37] <mmm4m5m> * windows inside
[11:37] <mmm4m5m> sorry
[11:37] <brett> windows xp?
[11:38] <mmm4m5m> my old windows xp until I move more stuff under ubuntu
[11:38] <brett> how much ram do you have dedicated to the vm?
[11:38] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, your old XP... you mean from the raw disk?
[11:38] <brett> xp only needs about 128megs to function fine
[11:38] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: maybe ubuntu make it to hang up... because they do not like windows ;)
[11:38] <mjbrooks> brett, we covered that
[11:38] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: yes, from raw disk
[11:38] <brett> oh, sorry, came in late :|
[11:39] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  it is all- already off
[11:39] <ricanelite_> there is something going on the top panel i had a section where if I was running Xchar or Skype or Pidgin Instant Messenger a icon will sit next to my clock
[11:39] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, raw disk access is buggy in VirtualBox
[11:39] <ricanelite_> It is not there now
[11:39] <mmm4m5m> brett: I will reduce winxp ram... just wanted to ensure ubuntu is running properly
[11:39] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: the fn + wireless key turns the light off- its in the off state with ubuntu is booting
[11:39] <alvaro> hola
[11:39] <Ziroda1> ricanelite: click on the icon and see what it does...
[11:39] <unop> ricanelite, try adding a new "notification area" applet in
[11:39] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: is there any command line stuff i can use to force network config off ?
[11:40] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, hmm then select the option to configure it later
[11:40] <mmm4m5m> Ok, issue closed. No problems. Thank you mjbrooks. Eventually I will search more in vitrual box forums
[11:40] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, are you installing ubuntu or already installed??
[11:40] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, when you say move more stuff do you mean data, or are there programs you feel you have to run?
[11:40] <unop> hyperstream, pull the network interface down.
[11:40] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: installing
[11:40] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: both, data and programs. First was firefox. Recently installed gnucash in ubuntu. and so on
[11:41] <hyperstream> unop:  what do you mean? how do i do this
[11:41] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, ipdown
[11:41] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, I'd install a fresh copy of XP in a virtual drive and install the programs you need there and just access the windows partition as a drive for the data
[11:41] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: lol how do i do that during install ?
[11:41] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  its trying to boot into the live cd
[11:41] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, you'll find windows runs better that way
[11:41] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, in the terminal
[11:42] <ricanelite_> yeah i have the notification area applet up there now but if click on the icon nothing happens I cannot bring it u
[11:42]  * jolson 
[11:42] <vinboy> is it possible to tell beagle NOT to index any contents? i only want it to index the filenames
[11:42] <brett> I agree with mjbrooks 100% with that.
[11:42] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: I dream for that. Just not possible to do it immediately
[11:42] <brett> when installed to a vm windows runs excellent :)
[11:42] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, hey jus a min
[11:42] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: in the boot options ?? there is no terminal its just pick an option to install and it goes on its own
[11:42] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  no worries mate
[11:42] <unop> hyperstream, are you booted into a live CD atm?
[11:42] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, it's like the difference between driving a yugo and a porche... not that XP is anyhthing like a porche
[11:43] <g[r]eek> Hi guys why when I boot my Ubuntu (desktop gutsy) it goes into "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) Buil-in shell (ash)" with the prompt "(initramfs)" ??? This happens after I power down the box by pressing the power button
[11:43] <mmm4m5m> :))))
[11:43] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, so you use a alternate cd and the command is ifdown
[11:43] <hyperstream> unop: no it goes get that far
[11:43] <jolson> Hi! My clock never switched to daylight savings time. Is that a common problem. How can I fix it?
[11:43] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri: ill give it a shot i guess
[11:44] <unop> hyperstream, well, what i would suggest if you boot up with the live CD (dont start the install) and chroot into the system to reinstall the acpi packages
[11:44] <unop> hyperstream, ifdown from a CD isnt going to do much .. the interface will come back up again the next time you start up
[11:44] <pajamian> jolson: is your system clock set to local time or to GMT?
[11:44] <arvind_khadri> hyperstream, he is doing a fresh install i guess
[11:44] <hyperstream> unop: how can i boot up with the live cd, it starts booting into the live cd and gets stuck, here is the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63269/
[11:45] <jolson> pajamian: Hmm, I'm not sure.
[11:45] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: just one more question (if you know virtualbox details) - fresh install WinXP using ACPI or not?
[11:45] <hyperstream> arvind_khadri:  it isnt installed, its just the install cd from the site: ubuntu 7.10
[11:45] <unop> hyperstream, i see
[11:45] <unop> hyperstream, this is the first ubuntu install on that machine?
[11:46] <ttkeppi> Does hardy beta update itself automatically into the final release? -or is it recommended to do a fresh install when final release is out?
[11:46] <pajamian> jolson: well, if you are dual booting windows then it would be recommended to have the system clock set to local time because windows requires it, but also windows changes the clock for DST and ubuntu knows this so it won't update the clock for you unless you are using NTP
[11:46] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, 1 sec
[11:46] <hyperstream> unop yes
[11:46] <arvind_khadri> unop, yeah
[11:46] <unop> ttkeppi, just upgrade .. and hardy questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[11:46] <kelvin911> how to use chmod command?
[11:46] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, yes
[11:46] <kelvin911> what if i want to change  it to rwxrwxrwx?
[11:46] <cros13> mornin' all, i got a quick question. what is the procedure for submitting a package? i went to launchpad and someone had setup a project for the program but submitted no code. I set up an import from svn but the importer hasent got to it yet. what's the next step?
[11:47] <hyperstream> unop: failed to set xfermode i had this issue- after googling on it, it told me to put irqpoll in boot options: which worked, but now stuck with the pastebin, i have burnt 3cd, checked 2 both fine, just used one to install ubuntu on this box today,
[11:47] <ttkeppi> unop, thanks
[11:47] <unop> hyperstream, you've tried the acpi=off and noacpi options right?
[11:47] <Ziroda1> kelvin911: chmod ugo=rwx /x/y/z/file
[11:47] <pajamian> jolson: if you don't dual boot to windows, though, then it's actually recommended to set your clock to GMT and you can tell this to ubuntu and ubuntu will display the correct local time.
[11:47] <ricanelite> what is a GREAT graphics card that will run great on Ubuntu Linux
[11:47] <hyperstream> unop i have tried: noacpi acpi=off apm=on irqpoll
[11:47] <vladi_> hi, I'm using ubuntu 8.04 and Trying to understand where iptables' rules are stored? Where's the logs of iptables? I can't see any configs...
[11:47] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, and for RAW disk you want all three options checked... ACPI, IO APIC and the VT one
[11:47] <crimsun> vladi_: #ubuntu+1
[11:47] <jolson> pajamian: I do have dualboot, but I haven't started Windows for a long time. When I set the time manually in Ubuntu, it reverts automatically after some time.
[11:47] <kelvin911> what if i wan rwxr---w- ??
[11:47] <g[r]eek> Hi why do I get BusyBox prompt screen after booting up?
[11:47] <kelvin911> is there easy way to change?
[11:47] <ricanelite> Where I could have all of the Compiz-Fusion and Eye-Candy going on with no problems, and will also run most Linux Games with no problems
[11:48] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: ok. for fresh install probably without ACPI is better
[11:48] <hyperstream> ive been googling around too, aparently a guy who had the same issue fixed his with: noacpi acpi=off apm=on  | but it still trys to cat the file
[11:48] <unop> hyperstream, well, to rule out a problem with your computer, you can download the minimal/netinstall CD image and try it out
[11:48] <Ziroda1> ricanelite: most nvidia cards work very well, however the drivers for them are not GPL'ed. I don't there actually is a open source graphics card
[11:48] <kelvin911> then chmod u=rwx,g=r,o=x ?
[11:48] <pajamian> jolson: just boot windows, then.  ubuntu is not changing the time because it expects windows to do it.  If ubuntu changed the time it would end up changing twice and advancing the clock two hours.
[11:48] <ricanelite> okay
[11:48] <master_> سلام عليكم
[11:48] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, a fresh install to a virtual disk, with ACPI
[11:48] <master_> الوووووووووووووووو
[11:48] <mmm4m5m> ok
[11:48] <vladi_> crimsun: ok
[11:48] <unop> kelvin911, chmod 742 file
[11:48] <ay^> My nvidia hates me and freezes if I use compiz or dual screen
[11:49] <ay^> or.. my computer freezes when I do that
[11:49] <kelvin911> whats 742?
[11:49] <Ziroda1> kelvin911: correct, u = user g = group o = other
[11:49] <kelvin911> is there tutorial?
[11:49] <DistroJockey> kelvin911: see    man chmod
[11:49] <hyperstream> unop:  sounds good- there is however one other thing, it fails to modprobe a wifi module i believe before it gets to that stage. let me load it to the issue again
[11:49] <mjbrooks> ay^, it doesn't hate you, it's trying to save you from getting eye-cavities
[11:49] <d31`home> not sure if you guys have seen this or not, but http://www.feedzero.com is a pretty neat tool
[11:49] <Ziroda1> unop: learning it as ugo=rwx is far easier then 742 or 544
[11:49] <unop> hyperstream, worry about wireless when you have finished
[11:49] <ikonia> !offtopic > d31`home
[11:49] <ay^> mjbrooks: oh.. :)
[11:50] <ricanelite> but I'm trying to find a high-end graphics card that will work with Ubuntu with no issues. Especially when I do the eye-candy stuff. Like my current graphics card works great with Compiz/Eyecandy and I could also run Counter Strike, Urban Terror, World of Warcraft with the Compiz/Eyecandy still open and it runs great.
[11:50] <unop> Ziroda1, is it? you have to get to knowing what it is at some stage, and it's never too early to learn something that simple
[11:50] <ay^> the compiz part I can do without, but I'd really enjoy having dual screens
[11:50] <kelvin911> u is?
[11:50] <mjbrooks> ay^, after all, when was the last time you brush your eyes after looking at eye-candy?
[11:50] <kelvin911> u = user?
[11:50] <kelvin911> g= group?
[11:50] <ay^> haha
[11:50] <jolson> pajamian: Actually, my Windows is defunct as of now. We may assume I'll never use it again, so I'd like to set things up accordingly.
[11:50] <kelvin911> o=owner?
[11:50] <Ziroda1> kelvin911: u = user (owner)
[11:50] <ricanelite> yeah, I'm trying to get dual screen on my linux box going
[11:50] <ay^> mjbrooks: Yeah, thats was quite some time ago
[11:50] <Ziroda1> kelvin911: o = other
[11:50] <g[r]eek> Hi why do I get BusyBox prompt screen after booting up?
[11:50] <ikonia> ricanelite: the current choice is limited to nvidia
[11:51] <DistroJockey> kelvin911: from the man:  the user who owns it (u), other users in the  file’s group  (g),  other  users not in the file’s group (o), or all users (a).
[11:51] <brett> ricanelite, to get very high fps while gaming with compiz you're going to need a real decent card, something 8800+
[11:51] <linggz> Hi all
[11:51] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, http://linux.about.com/od/linux101/Linux_101.htm
[11:51] <ricanelite> I have a 17"Gateway and a 37" Phillips LCD HDTV via HDMI and I could get it working but the menu bars are cut off from the top and I have it at 1280x720 resolution
[11:51] <unop> kelvin911, 742 is an octal representation of u=rwx,g=r,o=w .. more on unix permissions here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permissions#Octal_notation
[11:52] <ikonia> ricanelite: thats just the resolution being wrong or the position
[11:52] <ricanelite> yeah I get good FPS now, but I'm just building a new machine and just wanted to get a good graphics card for Linux
[11:52] <Ziroda1> unop: if it accepts octal then it will accept ugo=rwx, why make it complicated?
[11:52] <ay^> All I can get going in dual screen with my TFT screen and LCD TV is like 800x600
[11:52] <ay^> and thats somehow sucks..
[11:52] <pajamian> jolson: ok, then, I would recommend settign your system clock to GMT, one sec, though, I don't actually know how off the top of my head other than doing it during install (there is a way, though, gimme a sec to figure it out)...
[11:52] <grunt> Hi all I have a question I am setting up my interfaces and when I restart it I get an error I am following the tutorial here ( http://my.opera.com/albuemil/blog/2007/01/04/installing-ubuntu-server-2 ) and I am having no luck....
[11:52] <ikonia> ricanelite: your options are limited to nvidia
[11:52] <unop> Ziroda1, see my reply to you prior to this
[11:52] <ricanelite> well nvidia is fine
[11:52] <ricanelite> always used them in the past
[11:52] <ikonia> grunt what is the error
[11:53] <linggz> I just Install postgresql successfully. Anyone know how to change the pasword of default username called "postgrasql
[11:53] <hyperstream> unop: the error message is: modprobe: WARNING: Error inserting iwlwifi_rc80211_simple (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/wireless/iwlwifi/mac80211/origin/net/mac80211/iwlwifi_rc80211_simple.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmsg)   ---- but i cant see dmesg can i :P
[11:53] <brett> slightly off topic, I've had 3 ati cards melt on me, both nvidia ones kept strong :|
[11:53] <chaos_> 你好
[11:53] <hyperstream> unop: should i try this: ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[11:53] <unop> linggz, log on as that user with, sudo -u postgresql  # and change the password with.  passwd
[11:54] <grunt> ikonia it says /etc/network/interfaces:2: misplaced option then goes on to say that it cant read the file
[11:54] <unop> hyperstream, sure, do try -- but again, don't worry about wireless too much at this stage
[11:54] <grunt> and I copied exactly what is on that tutorial I linked abovr
[11:54] <g[r]eek> linggz: Yeah: sudo -u postgres psql template1
[11:54] <pajamian> !time | jolson (here ya go, this link tells ya all about it, change yoru clock to UTC and install NTP per the directions)
[11:54] <ubotu> jolson (here ya go, this link tells ya all about it, change yoru clock to UTC and install NTP per the directions): Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[11:54] <ikonia> grunt: why do you have an interfaces:2: file ?
[11:54] <DistroJockey> hyperstream: definately, I believe it supports more hardware (could be wrong on that) I always use alternate.
[11:54] <g[r]eek> linggz: then ALTER USER postgres  WITH PASSWORD 'your password';
[11:54] <hyperstream> unop: is there anyway to make it 'no worry' about the wireless?
[11:54] <g[r]eek> linggz: then \q
[11:54] <ikonia> grunt: pastebin your interfaces file
[11:55] <grunt> I dont know how to copy in linux haha (im also in vmware atm)
[11:55] <unop> g[r]eek, that changes the password within postgresql itself, i dont think thats what he meant
[11:55] <jolson> pajamian: Thanks, but I didn't see any link.
[11:55] <ikonia> grunt: then we can't help you
[11:55] <pajamian> jolson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[11:55] <ikonia> !pastebin > grunt
[11:55] <unop> hyperstream, well, you should "not worry" .. it should ignore it
[11:55] <jolson> pajamian:  Ah, sorry.
[11:55] <ikonia> grunt: see the link from uobut
[11:55] <grunt> thankyou
[11:55] <linggz> Thanks.. I'll try
[11:56] <pajamian> jolson: no worries
[11:56] <g[r]eek> unop: Oh my bad I misread. unop I got a new DLINK network card and now the networking is fine. But I get this "BusyBox" prompt every now and then when I reset my box
[11:56] <hyperstream> unop:  as we can see it doesnt tho it still trys to config the network ?
[11:56] <Chukchi_Husky> I'm trying to get a Netgear FA311 v2 network card to work.
[11:56] <g[r]eek> unop: No idea why - but I need to fix it because it's a server that sits on-site at a client and everything needs to load up (ie: webserver) after power-up
[11:56] <Lamego> !ccsm
[11:56] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[11:56] <unop> hyperstream, start the install off with the alternate CD, we'll deal with any problems then
[11:57] <unop> g[r]eek, what do you mean by "reset the box" ?
[11:57] <Mba7eth> exit
[11:57] <unop> g[r]eek, do you mean reboot?
[11:58] <kelvin911> how to use fdformat command?
[11:58] <g[r]eek> unop: Where I live we are prone to power failures - so I have installed a simple UPS that gives my client 25 minutes to shut down the box - I instruct him to simply press the power button on the linux box as I believe this initiates the shut-down phase of ubuntu. But now I'm getting "BusyBox" prompt when it boots back up
[11:58] <kelvin911> fdformat /dev/fd0?
[11:58] <DistroJockey> kelvin911:  man fdformat
[11:58] <mingers> is there any way to message other users logged in?
[11:58] <bullgard4> holloway: Kenn ich. Meine Frage bezog sich mehr darauf, ob GNOME eine per Default spendiert hat.
[11:58] <kelvin911> i dont understand what it is saying there
[11:58] <ikonia> mingers: talk
[11:59] <mingers> ikonia: thanks
[11:59] <ikonia> bullgard4: english only please.
[11:59] <mingers> is that ubuntu specific?
[11:59] <mjbrooks> g[r]eek, so whaqt you're saying is you've been having the client hard stop the server and now it's broken
[11:59] <ikonia> mingers: no
[11:59] <hyperstream> unop:  nps ill get back to you in about 30 mins
[11:59] <unop> g[r]eek, i'm sure there are better ways to automate this process -- whereby a script is invoked when the system detects low battery on the UPS -- it would be recommended this be done instead
[11:59] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: btw, gparted show sda8 as 980 MB
[12:00] <unop> g[r]eek, how is the UPS connected upto the comp?
[12:00] <mjbrooks> mmm4m5m, yowzer... that's wierd
[12:00] <g[r]eek> mjbrooks: Ok but doesn't pressing the power button just do the same as clicking on the shutdown button? It definately does some work after the button is pressed so its not like its a total hard stop?
[12:00] <kelvin911> how to check the /dev/??? for usb floppy again?  i keep forgetting
[12:00] <mjbrooks> g[r]eek, physical buttons are not like software buttons
[12:01] <g[r]eek> unop: Just a simple power cable. The ups itself has a UTP input/output which I could probably use to "detect" low battery etc
[12:01] <g[r]eek> mjbrooks: So what you're saying is that although it still does some work after I press the power button, it's not actually doing the shut down?
[12:01] <unop> g[r]eek, the "UPS howto" should help you then
[12:02] <mjbrooks> g[r]eek, some work, but the question is what work
[12:02] <kelvin911> how to check my floppy drive?
[12:02] <mjbrooks> g[r]eek, I usually disconnect the power button on the front of my servers
[12:02] <kelvin911> i dont knw if it is /dev/sd# ??? #=?
[12:03] <Schypher_> hello
[12:03] <kelvin911> found it
[12:03] <DistroJockey> kelvin911: no idea what a USB floppy gets for a device name, it will be somewhere in   /dev   though
[12:03] <g[r]eek> unop: So I'd have to program a script that the UPS can call whenever there is a power failure?
[12:03] <kelvin911> with command mount
[12:03] <g[r]eek> unop: It's either that or I have to leave a monitor and mouse connected to the server and instruct my client to click on the shut down button...
[12:04] <mjbrooks> g[r]eek, such scripts are probably supplied on the UPS manufacturer's website
[12:04] <linggz> g[r]eek, not working, I'm still get error msg "fatal error: ident auth fail for user postgres so what next
[12:04] <g[r]eek> linggz: You need to change ident sameuser to md5
[12:04] <kelvin911> so to format a floppy do i do fdformat /dev/sdi ???
[12:05] <kelvin911> Could not determine current format type: Invalid argument
[12:05] <g[r]eek> linggz: sudo nano /etc/postgresql-8.2/main/pg_hba.conf (assuming you're using 8.2)
[12:05] <pajamian> linggz: if postgresql is using ident auth then you have to be logged in as the user postgres on the system in order to use the user postgres in postgresql.
[12:05] <g[r]eek> linggz: the change "local all postgres ident sameuser" to "locall all postgres md5"
[12:07] <gaE4> can anyone tell me how to switch off the shortcut Alt+right Mouseclick? And how to switch it on after!
[12:07] <g[r]eek> unop, mjbrooks - what is the BusyBox prompt anyway and why am I getting it?
[12:07] <unop_> g[r]eek, it's a rescue shell basically -- you are taken to it if the system cannot do a normal boot
[12:08] <jolson> pajamian: I have tried the instructions now. I hope it works. Thanks.
[12:08] <pajamian> jolson: yw and good luck
[12:08] <g[r]eek> unop_: And it fails to do a normal boot because? I'm assuming because of the hard stop as mjbrooks put it?
[12:08] <g[r]eek> linggz: Did that work?
[12:09] <g[r]eek> linggz: Also check out #postgresql - they are just as helpful as the guys in here, except their focus is postgresql
[12:09] <linggz> do i have to restart the service ?
[12:09] <unop_> g[r]eek,  well, the only way to find out quite definitively would be to examine the log files and dmesg -- yea, i suspect the hard stop really does bork something or the other
[12:09] <DistroJockey> g[r]eek: this issue?:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/217616
[12:09] <g[r]eek> linggz: yeah
[12:09] <mojo> Hi.  I'm running Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10) and have desktop effects on (compiz-fusion).  But it seems to me that metacity is loading first, then compiz loading.  How can I be sure it starts compiz-fusion as the wm w/o it loading metacity first?  I'd still like metacity as a crash-fallback though, if possible.
[12:09] <unop_> g[r]eek, what do you have to do to get the system to boot normally once you see this prompt?
[12:09] <g[r]eek> linggz: sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.2 reload
[12:09] <mjbrooks> g[r]eek, what is the wording of the error again?
[12:09] <g[r]eek> unop_: Heh, I just press ctrl + alt + del and it boots fine
[12:10] <g[r]eek> mjbrooks: Wording of what error?
[12:10] <mjbrooks> g[r]eek, the busy box
[12:10] <grunt> ikonia http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63274/ that is my interfaces file
[12:10] <g[r]eek> mjbrooks: It's no error per se - just a prompt
[12:10] <pajamian> g[r]eek: iirc you mentioned before that you used the power button to turn the computer off.  You mean the physical button on the computer case?
[12:11] <mjbrooks> pajamian, yep that's what he means
[12:11] <g[r]eek> pajamian: Yup. mjbrooks pointed out that although this does seem to do work on the pc before turning it off, it's not the same a normal shut down
[12:11] <linggz> :( still not working, I'm using pgadmin (gui) to connect to
[12:11] <pajamian> g[r]eek: correct, you should not shut down the computer that way except as a last resort.
[12:11] <ikonia> grunt: that looks quite normal
[12:11] <g[r]eek> pajamian: So I'm guessing that this hardstopping is causing the busybox prompt to come up
[12:11] <unop_> g[r]eek, it could be that the BIOS has an option to shut off the computer right away (or with a short delay) once the power button is pressed
[12:12] <grunt> yes indeed which makes me wonder why I am getting the error
[12:12] <g[r]eek> Ok
[12:12] <grunt> the command I am using to restart the interface is /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:12] <unop_> g[r]eek, thereby not allowing the system to go through runlevel S/6 (??) and do a proper shutdown
[12:12] <g[r]eek> So am I correct in concluding that my only 2 options are 1) leave a monitor and mouse connected to the server and having my client manually shut down, or 2) use a UPS triggered script
[12:12] <kelvin911> why cant write to  a floppy that is created by other linux?
[12:13] <kelvin911> should everything in floppy rwxrwxrwx??
[12:13] <ricanelite> is this graphics card worth the purchase for Ubuntu linux? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130299
[12:13] <DistroJockey> pajamian: g[r]eek: I know the ancient RHEL 4 shuts down gracefully with a tap of the power button
[12:13] <kelvin911> why it is rwx------ ???
[12:13] <unop_> g[r]eek, why don't you educate the user to shutdown the machine properly? :) and yea, a script would be nice
[12:13] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, you really need to read some basic howtos
[12:13] <g[r]eek> unop_: Yeah but I was hoping to not clutter the server room with a monitor and mouse...
[12:14] <wildman> hello there. I've removed Ubuntu's Sun Java packages, and installed (unpacked + setup envvars) Sun's latest JDK (1.6.05 as opposed to Ubuntu's 1.6.03). Now, my desktop and toolbar shortcuts to Java apps won't work anymore stating they cannot find 'java' (which IS on the PATH), any ideas?
[12:14] <egoleo> hey guys whats wrong with this command plse
[12:14] <askand> I am having problem with wireless internet..the networkmanager disconnects me and I have to reboot to be connected again,..
[12:14] <egoleo>  ls | grep "yatra" | grep "Mar" |  /home/deepika/dataCruncher/backEnd/pollingPrograms/reportParser/testingReports
[12:14] <ricanelite> or this card? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150253
[12:14] <g[r]eek> unop_: I like the idea of a auto-triggered script  - it might be complicated to set up the first time but I can use it on all my clients going forward
[12:14] <unop_> g[r]eek, he could do it remotely too -- but anyway, better to used UPS to its full potential
[12:15] <erUSUL> egoleo: the last command on the pipe is a normal file ??
[12:15] <void^> wildman: make /etc/alternatives/java point to your java
[12:15] <g[r]eek> unop_: Lol, I should introduce you to my client - you'd then understand why this isn't an option :)
[12:15] <unop_> g[r]eek, the UPS howto should give you an idea about how this is done .. atleast you know how feasible it is then
[12:15] <egoleo> yeah
[12:15] <unop_> g[r]eek, :)
[12:15] <pajamian> DistroJockey: that is more dependant on the BIOS than anything else.  As a rule of thumb don't use the physical power button to shut down except as a last resort, some bioses will simply cut power to the motherboard immediately.
[12:15] <ge> Hello People!
[12:15] <wildman> void^, oh, I see all java links broken there...
[12:15] <hyperstream> unop_: would this make a difference? if when the computer is trying to set the computer clock, select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out failing to set the clock cause any greif ?
[12:15] <wildman> void^, thx, trying to fix the links
[12:15] <egoleo> the result is a file and i want recieve it and copy to another folder
[12:16] <unop_> egoleo, what are you trying to do exactly?
[12:16] <g[r]eek> unop_: By UPS howto I assume you are reffering to the badly translated manual that shipped with the device, and not some awesome ubuntu command that does everything forme
[12:16] <g[r]eek> :)
[12:16] <ge> I am trying to make a new hd bootable. When I run "grub-install /dev/sda" it says "couldnt find device for /boot". whats that?
[12:16] <DistroJockey> pajamian: true
[12:16] <egoleo> i want the output to be copied to a folder
[12:16] <unop_> g[r]eek, it's a TLDP document
[12:16] <erUSUL> egoleo: then it wont work probably you meant « ls /home/deepika/dataCruncher/backEnd/pollingPrograms/reportParser/testingReports | grep "yatra" | grep "Mar" »
[12:16] <g[r]eek> unop_: TLDP?
[12:17] <unop_> g[r]eek, the linux doc. project .. see tldp.org :)
[12:17] <erUSUL> ge: the partition where /boot/ is mounted and where grub needs to find/get /boot/grub/
[12:17] <g[r]eek> thanks
[12:17] <unop_> g[r]eek, tldp.org/HOWTO/UPS-HOWTO/
[12:17] <grunt> ikonia this is the error I receive when I try and restart my interfaces file. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63275/
[12:18] <unop_> egoleo, maybe if you told us more about what you are trying to do, we could suggest a better solution - right now what you are trying to do is a little bit unclear
[12:18] <ge> erUSUL: the partition is /dev/sda1. how do i tell grub its there?
[12:18] <egoleo> ok
[12:18] <hyperstream> grunt: id say there is a misplaced option in the /etc/network interface file
[12:18] <hyperstream> on line 2 by the looks of it
[12:18] <mjbrooks> !grub > ge
[12:18] <ourasi> Mitä on LP käännös
[12:19] <egoleo> what i am trying to do is to grep some files out of a lot of files and redirect what i want and save it in a separate folder
[12:19] <unop_> hyperstream, your question confuzzles me :)
[12:19] <g[r]eek> unop_: Nice. Thanks for all the help. Off for lunch. I'll be back if I run into problems later :)
[12:19] <grunt> hyperstream http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63274/ is my interface file can you suggest what that misplaced option would be?
[12:19] <mjbrooks> egoleo, you're trying to copy the files then?
[12:19] <egoleo> yes
[12:20] <egoleo> that is what i am trying to do
[12:20] <hyperstream> unop_: im getting: select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out when setting the system clock
[12:20] <JyZyXEL> !nvidia
[12:20] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:20] <erUSUL> ge: do you have a separate boot partition?
[12:20] <hyperstream> grunt: no sorry im a newblet myself
[12:20] <grunt> damn you hyperstream LOL
[12:21] <unop_> egoleo, better to use find then .. because the way you are using ls could break under some circumstances ..  grep "yatra" | grep "Mar" #< what is this finding? owner and date?
[12:22] <pajamian> egoleo: you could just do: cp *yatra*Mar* /path/to/destination/folder
[12:23] <TuxPWNZ> My cousin has a netgear wg111v3 wireless adapter, and he wants to know how to get it to work with Ubuntu, for some reason he can't find its appropriate drivers, can you tell me how to help him?
[12:23] <egoleo> thn
[12:23] <egoleo> i will try that
[12:23] <gregory> ourasi: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#head-729211ea4fb3c5b535d3d8a533dbc007c8dbce14
[12:23] <pajamian> egoleo: assuming that yatra and Mar are part of the file names and not some other attribute
[12:24] <grunt> Can anyone help me with my interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63274/ is my file and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63275/ is m error when I try and restart. Please help!
[12:24] <unop_> egoleo, maybe better this way .. find /path -iname "*yatra*" -o -iname "*mar*" -print0 | xargs -0 cp -t /some/dir
[12:24] <HSNews> people, hot to get X wia XDMCP. I get only LOGIN-window and when I log-on.. it's empty :( windowsxp->xdmcp->ubuntu
[12:25] <unop_> HSNews, windowxp does not understand X .. are you using cygwin (or something else there)?
[12:25] <parthibls> hi.....i setup a new desktop with gutsy......everything's working except wireless
[12:26] <ge> After booting and being in grub - can i tell it explicitly to boot from sda1 ?
[12:26] <wildman> void^, it worked like a charm, thanks !
[12:26] <ay^> ge yes
[12:26] <ay^> press e
[12:26] <ay^> for edit
[12:26] <ay^> and edit the lines
[12:26] <unop_> !enter | ay^
[12:26] <ubotu> ay^: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:26] <ay^> whoops bad habit :(
[12:26] <grunt> Can anyone help me with my interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63274/ is my file and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63275/ is m error when I try and restart. Please help!
[12:26] <parthibls> it's a usb wireless card......is being recognized with the prism2_usb driver
[12:27] <parthibls> and iwlist even shows all the networks
[12:27] <parthibls> but not connecting
[12:27] <parthibls> any ideas please?
[12:27] <DistroJockey> grunt: umm, may be not important, but why use sudo when you are already root?  "# sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[12:27] <kelvin911> i figure out chmod number system
[12:27] <lordleemo> TuxPWNZ: a complete how to for you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=732827
[12:27] <mjbrooks> parthibls, what type of encryption is the wireless routher using?
[12:27] <aurehman> hi... i want to listen mp3 on ubuntu... which tool shall i install.
[12:28] <aurehman> is there any winamp type tool to listen mp3
[12:28] <guest56745> can anybody help me to set my ndiswrapper?
[12:28] <aurehman> ?
[12:28] <kelvin911> it is way easier than chmod u=xxx,g=xxx,o=xxx format
[12:28] <wildman> bye ppl, cya later, enjoy!
[12:28] <grunt> DistroJockey yeah just because I was following a tutorial I have tried both with and without the sudo command.
[12:28] <guest56745> i'm trying to get this driver for BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI
[12:28] <ge> ay^: ok, thanks!
[12:28]  * DistroJockey nods at grunt
[12:29] <grunt> So no one has any idea why I am horrid at linux?
[12:29] <kelvin911> aurehman: rhythmbox is pretty good for playing mp3
[12:29] <pajamian> kelvin911: yes it is, the other system has the advantage of when you want to just modify one bit and leave the rest the same, though.
[12:29] <kelvin911> aurehman: its like itune
[12:29] <unop_> grunt, strange, can you pastebin your /etc/init.d/networking  file too?
[12:29] <mjbrooks> BCM94311MCG?!!! BCM94311MCG?!!!!!!   stupid Broadcom!!
[12:29] <kelvin911> pajamian: but i like the # system
[12:29] <grunt> I didnt know there was one unop_ will do so now gimme a minute I have copy it from the vmware window
[12:30] <kelvin911> pajamian: dont have to type so many
[12:30] <pajamian> kelvin911: so do I for most uses.
[12:30] <kelvin911> its bacially binary number system
[12:30] <aurehman> kelvin911: is it looks like winamp?
[12:30] <kelvin911> aurehman: it's like itune
[12:30] <kelvin911> aurehman: better than winamp
[12:31] <aurehman> kelvin911: thanx a lot dear
[12:31] <kelvin911> aurehman: it automatically sort out the singer, album and stuffs
[12:31] <pajamian> kelvin911: you can't make a change to both directories and regular files with it at the same time, though, like this: chmod -R a+r /home/foo
[12:31] <HSNews> how to unistall apache2 fully? via shell-console
[12:31] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, you can also do it like  chmod ug+rwx filename
[12:31] <erUSUL> grunt: please comment out "network 192.168.1.0 and try again
[12:31] <guest56745> (07:29:39 PM) mjbrooks: BCM94311MCG?!!! BCM94311MCG?!!!!!!   stupid Broadcom!! <--- meaning i can't use ubuntu in my laptop?
[12:31] <unop_> kelvin911, it's not like the octal permissions are a replacement for lettered permissions - they work fine most times but cannot do all things, you have to know when to use which
[12:31] <Pici> !broadcom | guest56745
[12:31] <ubotu> guest56745: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[12:31] <grunt> erUSUL will do thankyou
[12:31] <mjbrooks> guest56745, no, just that broadcom stinks....
[12:32] <hyperstream> aurehman:  audacious clone of winamp= top selection if you ask me
[12:32] <guest56745> well? what is it?
[12:32] <mjbrooks> guest56745, you might have to use ndiswrappers to use that device
[12:32] <guest56745> i want  to use ndiswrapper
[12:32] <aurehman> hyperstream: Thanx a lot for helping me
[12:32] <spank> 大家好啊！
[12:33] <kelvin911> i would say rhythmbox music player are the best for mp3 or any kind of music
[12:33] <mjbrooks> guest56745, you stuck then?
[12:33] <pajamian> guest56745: you may have to manually configure your wireless.  Some wireless adapters won't work with auto configure and WPA even though the network is detected but they work fine if you manually configure.
[12:33] <erUSUL> !jp | spank
[12:33] <ubotu> spank: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[12:33] <guest56745> but if i read the page... it say i have to get the driver  4.Download driver for BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI here ( if this link expire I can't help you... this came from another site)
[12:33] <guest56745> 5.tar -xzvf WLANBroadcom.tar.gz
[12:33] <grunt> erUSUL I still receive the same error
[12:33] <kelvin911> thats now japanese
[12:33] <erUSUL> grunt: :|
[12:33] <kelvin911> it's chinese
[12:33] <spank> 有中国朋友吗？聊聊
[12:33] <guest56745> so i'm searching for  WLANBroadcom.tar.gz
[12:33] <erUSUL> kelvin911: sorry not very versed on either ;)
[12:33] <void^> !zh | spank
[12:33] <ubotu> spank: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[12:33] <erUSUL> !cn | spank
[12:33] <kelvin911> spank: no there is no mainland china people here
[12:33] <pajamian> oh, guest56745 sorry, I think I mistook you for someone else.
[12:34] <parthibls> mjbrooks: wpa + wpa2
[12:34] <kelvin911> spank: go back to play with your QQ
[12:34] <spank> oh,It's my first time here~
[12:34] <mjbrooks> guest56745, download the windows driver for BCM94311MCG from anywhere and use that
[12:34] <pajamian> guest56745: last tiem I checked broadcom doesn't directly distribute the windows drivers themselves.  You need to get it from the website for your laptop manufacturer.
[12:34] <user1> i cant see 'downthemall' in package manager.. why?
[12:34] <void^> kelvin911: consider an attitude adjustment
[12:35] <ttkeppi> for mp3 listening and webradios I recommend amarok.. but everyone has his/hers favorite player
[12:35] <parthibls> mjbrooks: and i have gutsy on my laptop (desktop is the one troubling).......working perfectly on 'roaming mode'
[12:35] <Pici> user1: Its a firefox extension, probably best to install it from the Firefox addons site.
[12:35] <mjbrooks> parthibls, wpa2 is iffy I think.... I had to revert to WPA cause I couldn't authenticate with WPA2 router
[12:35] <spank> kelvin911   :  a joke?
[12:35] <erUSUL> user1: it is a firefox extension
[12:35] <kelvin911> what joke?
[12:35] <parthibls> ﻿mjbrooks: oh.....k shall try
[12:35] <egoleo> yeah thnx
[12:35] <egoleo> it works now
[12:35] <guest56745> i tought ubuntu is easy.. plug and play...
[12:35] <spank> It's funny~
[12:36] <pajamian> parthibls: you may have to manually configure your wireless.  Some wireless adapters won't work with auto configure and WPA/WPA2 even though the network is detected but they work fine if you manually configure.
[12:36] <mjbrooks> parthibls, as soon as I set the router to do just WPA no problem
[12:36] <user1> erUSUL Pici is it the best dl manager with vgood resum support?
[12:36] <guest56745> it seem more complecated as the website say
[12:36] <parthibls> ﻿mjbrooks: another thing......if i go into 'Network Manager' and unselect roaming mode.......in essid it shows the networks available
[12:36] <erUSUL> user1: i have it installed and works fine but i'm not a heavy user
[12:36] <parthibls> but 'Roaming mode' doesn't show any networks
[12:36] <parthibls> any ideas?
[12:36] <mjbrooks> guest56745, it is... unless you have broadcom or you want eyecandy and have ATI/Intel integrqated
[12:36] <Pici> user1: I dont really have a need for a downloader, but I've used that one and it seems pretty good to me.
[12:37] <iambob> hey guys
[12:37] <mjbrooks> parthibls, you can see the WPA2 network, you just can't authenticate to it
[12:37] <parthibls> pajamian: will that be in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[12:37] <kelvin911> can i do chmod -r 744 * ??
[12:37] <user1> erUSUL Pici i see, i had kget but its bad with resume. and so is firefox default downloading..
[12:37] <iambob> ive got an issue with my resolution... on ubuntu 7.04
[12:37] <iambob> anything above 1024x768 goes retarted and distorts...
[12:37] <iambob> any dieas?
[12:37] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, NO
[12:37] <guest56745> thanks for your help. i think i have to uninstall ubuntu in my laptop. if it can't use wifi.. meaningless to have it my laptop
[12:38] <parthibls> thanks guys.......i'll try and report back
[12:38] <kelvin911> mjbrooks: how to set all sub file to 744?
[12:38] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, you're going to break your system
[12:38] <kelvin911> not in /
[12:38] <Dr_willis> guest56745,  try the next ubuntu release. It may have better support
[12:38] <user1> erUSUL Pici any other good one?
[12:38] <grunt> erUSUL I completely rewrote the interface file and it works now....
[12:38] <kelvin911> in a dir, can i do this?
[12:38] <pajamian> guest56745: the problem is that broadcom refuses to give any specifications for their chipsets to the open source community and that makes it next to impossible to write decent drivers for them.  They also refuse to release a linux version of thier drivers.
[12:38] <grunt> so who knows
[12:38] <Pici> user1: I personally use wget for my downloads.  Why not try DownThemAll and see how it is?
[12:38] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, when using comands like that, explicitely state the path
[12:39] <kelvin911> chmod -r 744 ~/picture ??
[12:39] <pajamian> parthibls: I think just click on the networking icon in the system tray and then manual configuration.
[12:39] <iambob> any ideas guys?
[12:39] <erUSUL> grunt: found the failure? i couldn't see anything wrong (maybe a tab or somethingg silly like that? ?
[12:39] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, exactly
[12:39] <Chukchi_Husky> I'm trying to get a Netgear FA311 to work.
[12:39] <iambob> ????
[12:39] <iambob> ????
[12:40] <grunt> I think so by re-writing it I assume I got rid of whatever syntax error I had - thanks for the help in any event :)
[12:40] <FloodBot1> iambob: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:40] <xs142> How do I get permission to change the xorg.conf file...?
[12:40] <boulboul> quel est le logiciel qui permis d'imprimer deux page en une seule
[12:40] <erUSUL> !fixres | iambob
[12:40] <ubotu> iambob: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:40] <DistroJockey> iambob: sounds like a VESA driver to me
[12:40] <erUSUL> xs142: with sudo or gksudo
[12:40] <grub_> hello, i need some help. I reinstalled windows ( formatted everything) and when i try to install ubuntu ( gutsy) again, it fails at the bootloader installation step.
[12:40] <kelvin911> chmod -r 744 ~/CH: can not access `744'
[12:40] <xs142> erUSUL: Ok, so how do I open the file to edit via the terminal? :P
[12:40] <kelvin911> chmod -r,744 ~/pictures???
[12:40] <iambob> i think i am using vesa.
[12:41] <user1> Pici wget is v good in resum support?
[12:41] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  check 'man chmod'
[12:41] <pajamian> kelvin911: -R
[12:41] <iambob> anything above 1024x768 it goes ape shit
[12:41] <DistroJockey> iambob: what video card do you have?
[12:41] <Pici> user1: It has no gui.
[12:41] <grub_> and now i get grub setup (hd0) failed
[12:41] <erUSUL> xs142: what do you want to change? maybe it is enough to tewak conf via System>Admin>Screen and graphics
[12:41] <Pici> iambob: Please watch the language.
[12:41] <grub_> fatal error, and the installation stops
[12:41] <decay> after some compiz updates yesterday, my borders aren't showing. any thoughts?
[12:41] <DistroJockey> iambob: and mind the language please
[12:41] <xs142> erUSUL: Trying to add some new resolutions...
[12:41] <user1> Pici I see but does it supppports resume?
[12:41] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, man chmod
[12:41] <Pici> user1: Yes.
[12:42] <grub_> i tried mountiing the /target manually and installing grub, but i see in grub> that find /boot/grub/stage1 shows no file
[12:42] <grub_> what do i do?
[12:42] <kelvin911> chmod -R 744 ~/pictures works
[12:42] <kelvin911> thx
[12:42] <hyperstream> unop_:  when i get to the partitioner, resizing my 40gig drive (has 25gigs free) into a 20gig drive it comes up: An error occurred while writing the changes to the storage devices, the resize operation is aborted\
[12:42] <iambob> DistroJockey- 7600GT
[12:42] <erUSUL> xs142: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf (maybe you should do a backup first sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak )
[12:42] <user1> Pici you mean if pc is shut down or power failuer. or bad internet connection. i  can still resum the download by wget?
[12:43] <DistroJockey> iambob: can you pastebin the contents of   /etc/X11/xorg.conf   please?
[12:43] <pajamian> user1: wget -c
[12:43] <DistroJockey> !pastebin
[12:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[12:43] <user1> pajamian whats that for?
[12:43] <xs142> erUSUL isn't there any way to just open it in the "Text Editor" application?
[12:43] <pajamian> user1: -c = continue a partially completed download
[12:43] <Pici> user1: Nothing is perfect, but I'd say that it works quite well.
[12:44] <erUSUL> xs142: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:44] <xs142> erUSUL: tyvm :)
[12:44] <hyperstream> when i get to the partitioner, with ubuntu alternative cd: resizing my 40gig drive (has 25gigs free) into a 20gig drive it comes up: An error occurred while writing the changes to the storage devices, the resize operation is aborted\
[12:45] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, since you're not even using ubuntu or one of it's derivatives, and all of your questions are basic usage questions, don't you think you are being a bit unfair to everyone by taking valuable support time away from the ubuntu community?
[12:45] <user1> pajamian how do i remuse the dl if i shutdown?
[12:45] <iambob> not found when i type the command.
[12:45] <kelvin911> i am using ubuntu
[12:45] <pajamian> user1: you mean resume?
[12:45] <user1> pajamian ya
[12:45] <iambob> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:45] <iambob> it says command not found.
[12:45] <nathan_> after booting I need to do a ifdown ath0 and ifup ath0 to get a connection, any way to fix that?
[12:45] <pajamian> user1: just add -c to the wget command line and it will resume
[12:46] <kelvin911> mjbrooks: i am using 7.10 here
[12:46] <user1> k
[12:46] <grub_> if the installation fails at the bootloader installation step, will i lose everything else?
[12:46] <grub_> if i restart the computer
[12:47] <grub_> ?
[12:47] <Pie-rat1> I have a box still running breezy, and the repository doesn't seem to even exist any more.
[12:48] <D3> If I want to dual-boot, do I download the normal "Desktop CD" or the "Alternative CD"?
[12:48] <pajamian> D3: either one, I think
[12:48] <DistroJockey> kelvin911: why this comment then?   "(20:03:25) kelvin911: dont have trash can icon in desktop in deli linux"
[12:48] <kelvin911> i am setting up other linux in the other machine
[12:48] <Dr_willis> if you want a live-desktop/cd use the desktop.. alternative cd can install the same thing.. just not as nice a looing installer
[12:49] <user1> is there any app download manager that auto downloads all links in a page?
[12:49] <kelvin911> but the chmod thing is belong to my computer here
[12:49] <Pie-rat1> I have a box still running breezy, the breezy repository doesn't seem to exist any more, and i need ruby and ruby on rails installed on it today. any suggestions?
[12:49] <Dr_willis> user1,  theres extensions for firefox that can do that. and some website-copier programs out also.
[12:49] <Painkiller> flashget addon for firefox
[12:49] <D3> Thanks for the replies, pajamian and Dr_willis
[12:49] <DistroJockey> kelvin911: fair enough
[12:49] <mjbrooks> kelvin911, I just checked my logs and you did say you were using deli linux
[12:50] <kelvin911> yes i am, setting up deli linux on the other old machine
[12:50] <user1> Dr_willis ok. what extension?
[12:50] <kelvin911> but i am running ubuntu here
[12:50] <grub_> i am getting /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly
[12:50] <grub_> what does that mean? fstab/mtab is correct
[12:50] <Dr_willis> user1,  no idea. go serach the firefox exctension site. :) theres dozens of things like that.. dependng on exactly what you want it to do.
[12:51] <Dr_willis> grub_,  you booted a live cd? or this on your installed system?
[12:51] <user1> Dr_willis ok. whats the site?
[12:51] <gobo> so many people are here in any time
[12:51] <iambob> distrojockey u get my pm?
[12:51] <Dr_willis> user1,  theres links in the firefox extension menus/dialog somewhere.. or use google...
[12:51] <user1> k
[12:51] <gobo> is ubuntu popular?
[12:51] <grub_> Dr_willis: i am on a livecd. I was trying to install the distro, but it failed at the bootloader step
[12:51] <Dr_willis> user1,  :) stop being so lazy. :)
[12:51] <grub_> will i loose all the things installed Dr_willis ?
[12:51] <DistroJockey> iambob: nope, sorry
[12:51] <grub_> if i restart
[12:52] <oliver_> Hey, can someone tell me how to install flash player?
[12:52] <oliver_> On
[12:52] <erUSUL> !flas | oliver_
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flas - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <Pici> !pm | iambob
[12:52] <jmazaredo> can i download using ssh?
[12:52] <erUSUL> !flash | oliver_
[12:52] <ubotu> oliver_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:52] <grub_> Dr_willis: if possible, i want ot install the bootloader by hand and keep the system.. but were there any steps after bootloader step too? which i have to do manually?
[12:52] <Dr_willis> grub_,  then /boot is the boot directory on the LIVECD.  not the installed system.   -  You could chroot to the installed system and try to reinstall grub. but no idea if the isntall even worked that far. it might have failed befor  it filled in the proper files in 'boot'
[12:52] <Pici> er, not pm.
[12:52] <DistroJockey> !register | iambob
[12:52] <ubotu> iambob: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[12:52] <zaputr> Can anyone help me, I can't find drivers for ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 for Ubuntu
[12:52] <oliver_> !backports
[12:52] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[12:53] <iambob> !register | iambob
[12:53] <Dr_willis> grub_,  if you knew grub well enough it would perhaps be doable.  Check the installed ystem and see if it has a boot directory with a menu.lst and other files.
[12:53] <sedra> boycott ATI
[12:53] <grub_> Dr_willis: yes, i chrooted in the installed /target and did grub-install /dev/sda it gives an error saying /boot/grub/stage1 not read c orrectly
[12:53] <Dr_willis> grub_,  if you chroot in., you MUST set up /proc and /dev properly first then chroot in to /target
[12:54] <grub_> Dr_willis: yes, i did that too
[12:54] <oliver_> !flash
[12:54] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:54] <Dr_willis> grub_,  its very likely that /boot/ is empty then.
[12:54] <Dr_willis> grub_,  you might try reinstalling the grub packags again
[12:54] <grub_> Dr_willis: no, i see the stage1 and stage2 files. But no menu.lst
[12:55] <ikonia> grub_ then /dev is't mounted properly in the chroot
[12:55] <Dr_willis> grub_,  you could make a menu.lst i guess. Not sure what program in the instller generates the initial one.
[12:55] <nickrud> grub_ sudo update-grub will recreate a menu.lst
[12:55] <grub_> ok, update-grub created a menu.lst
[12:56] <grub_> but as i said the installer failed in the grub-install ste
[12:56] <ikonia> grub_: don't use grub install
[12:56] <grub_> so what do i do now? if i restart the system, will i loose everything which i have installed till now?
[12:56] <ikonia> grub_: configure it manually
[12:56] <grub_> ikonia: no? ah ok
[12:56] <grub_> i'll edit the menu.lst manually
[12:56] <ikonia> grub_: thats not confguring grub
[12:56] <grub_> but should'nt grub be isntalled on hd0,0 ?
[12:56] <b4l74z4r> is it possible to set numlock automatically when i boot into ubuntu?
[12:56] <ikonia> grub_: thats editing menu.lst
[12:56] <grub_> ikonia: what do you mean by configurnig then?
[12:57] <ikonia> grub_: no, it should be installed on the mbr of the box normally (hd0)
[12:57] <grub_> ikonia: i see, how do i do that?
[12:57] <pajamian> !numlock | b4l74z4r
[12:57] <ubotu> b4l74z4r: To enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock
[12:57] <ikonia> grub_: why are you doing this ? what happened to your grub install when you installed ubuntu
[12:58] <hassan> hi, i am running ubuntu server 64 bit, i am trying to use kvm, but whenever i use "modprobe kvm-intel" my machine completly hangs, i can's even use the "skinny elephants" trick. can somebody tell me in wich log file i should be looking ofr more info? thx
[12:58] <grub_> ikonia: i was trying to install the system using the live cd. it failed at the grub-install step
[12:58] <ikonia> hassan: you'll need to enable sysrq and do a dump trace
[12:58] <grub_> ikonia: showing error installing grub in the grub-install hd0 step
[12:58] <ikonia> grub_: so what are you doing to resolve this ?
[12:58] <grub_> ikonia: so, i dont want to loose whatever is installed in /target which is /dev/sda7. I want to install grub manually and get the system working
[12:59] <hassan> ikonia, echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq right?
[12:59] <boulboul> quel est le logiciel qui permis d'imprimer deux page en une seule
[12:59] <ikonia> grub_: not having grub doesn't effect the rest of your system
[12:59] <pajamian> grub_: are you trying to install on a mac computer per chance?
[12:59] <ikonia> grub_: no data will be lost
[12:59] <grub_> pajamian: nope
[12:59] <ikonia> hassan: thats the first step yes,
[12:59] <grub_> ikonia: cool, so what do i do now?
[12:59] <ikonia> !fr > boulboul
[12:59] <ikonia> !grub > grub_
[12:59] <ikonia> grub_: have you read the link ubotu has just sent you ?
[13:00] <grub_> yes
[13:00] <grub_> i tried everything from there
[13:00] <ikonia> ok,
[13:00] <grub_> yet i got /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly
[13:00] <grub_> when i do grub-install /dev/sda after chrooting in
[13:01] <murlidhar> root (hd0,6)
[13:01] <grub_> ikonia: even find /boot/grub/stage1 in grub shows me file not found
[13:01] <hassan> ikonia, ok i have done that, how do i generate a dump trace? do i need to use strace or gdb or something? thx
[13:01] <murlidhar> setup (hd0)
[13:01] <grub_> murlidhar: yes, done that
[13:01] <murlidhar> quit
[13:02] <grub_> murlidhar: i get cannot mount selected partition in setup (hd0)
[13:02] <nickrud> grub is /boot empty?  if so, do sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub
[13:02] <murlidhar> grub_, using dual boot ?
[13:02] <grub_> nickrud: not empty
[13:02] <grub_> murlidhar: yes
[13:02] <murlidhar> with?
[13:02] <grub_> windows
[13:02] <murlidhar> xp? or vista?
[13:02] <nickrud> grub_ did you set up a separate boot partition?
[13:02] <grub_> xp
[13:03] <grub_> nickrud: no, i just used /dev/sda7 as / partition
[13:03] <murlidhar> where is xp?
[13:03] <grub_> murlidhar: /dev/sda1
[13:03] <Pie-rat1> windows? why would i want clear planes of glass in my computer?
[13:03] <murlidhar> grub_, do u have gparted installed ? if so , check where is the boot sector
[13:04] <Fog> ohi
[13:04] <grub_> murlidhar: /dev/sda1
[13:04] <nickrud> grub, er, I wasn't correct in an earlier question: you said the find couldn't find /boot/grub/state1 , but ls /boot/grub shows it?
[13:04] <nickrud> *stage1
[13:04] <grub_> nickrud: yes
[13:05] <murlidhar> grub_, could u fdisk -l  ?
[13:05] <Fog> man
[13:05] <murlidhar> and pastebin it
[13:05] <Fog> How to get the man?
[13:05] <nickrud> Fog a book about ubuntu you mean?
[13:05] <grub_> murlidhar: its on a different laptop actually, but /dev/sda1 has * in boot
[13:06] <murlidhar> grub_, are u sure ubuntu is in /dev/sda7 ?
[13:06] <nickrud> !training | Fog
[13:06] <ubotu> Fog: A desktop course manual for Ubuntu 7.10 can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[13:07] <grub_> murlidhar: yes, taht is what i choose while partitioning
[13:08] <grub_> murlidhar: yep sure, i even mounted /dev/sda7 and checked
[13:08] <|Dreams|> whats that guide about?
[13:08] <murlidhar> grub_, if ubuntu is installed in sda7 then it should be already mounted
[13:09] <grub_> murlidhar: i am on a livecd atm.
[13:09] <murlidhar> oh ok
[13:09] <grub_> murlidhar: i was installing ubuntu on sda7, and it failed at the bootloader installation step
[13:09] <grub_> so i want to manually install the bootloader
[13:10] <murlidhar> grub_, then it is better if u mount the windows partition and the ubuntu partition and then giive the command in the sudo grub
[13:10] <grub_> murlidhar: what is the exact command?
[13:10] <pajamian> grub_: try: sudo grub-install /dev/hda7
[13:11] <grub_> pajamian: i get /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly
[13:11] <grub_> murlidhar: ^
[13:11] <murlidhar> grub_, it happened to me also .
[13:12] <grub_> murlidhar: howd you solve it?
[13:12] <murlidhar> grub_, the same method which i am telling you
[13:12] <oliver_> How do I install flash player on Ubuntu 6.02?
[13:13] <murlidhar> grub_, did you mount both the partitions?
[13:13] <erUSUL> oliver_: 6.06 ? dapper ?
[13:13] <oliver_> erUSUL: Yes
[13:13] <ganastasiou_> hello i have a problem with vmware server
[13:13] <ganastasiou_> i am on a local network how can i remove its configuration?
[13:14] <ganastasiou_> it blocks everythink
[13:14] <ganastasiou_> :S
[13:14] <erUSUL> !flash | oliver_
[13:14] <ubotu> oliver_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[13:14] <hyperstream> grr, someones torrenting bloody eve online client source! there goes some bloody downtime ><
[13:14] <oliver_> I can't work out how to
[13:15] <murlidhar> grub_, did you mount both the partitions
[13:15] <pajamian> oliver_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:15] <erUSUL> oliver_: install the package flashplugin-nonfree (e.g. sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree)
[13:15] <wib> i'm trying to make some templates for nautilus. there used to be a temlate folder somewhere, but Go->Templates takes me to my home folder...
[13:16] <Pici> wib: I believe all you need to do is create a Templates folder in your home.
[13:16] <oliver_> erUSUL: That doesn't work
[13:16] <erUSUL> oliver_: error?
[13:16] <titan_> hi, when I run videos online, they are very jerky, is there anyway to make them run smoth like they did in xp
[13:17] <oliver_> erUSUL: 2 secs
[13:17] <grub_> murlidhar: yes
[13:17] <murlidhar> ok now sudo grub
[13:17] <murlidhar> grub_, ok now sudo grub
[13:17] <grub_> murlidhar: i mounted the windows in /mnt/win ( sda1) and /mnt/test ( /dev/sda7)
[13:17] <LxRooT> i have ubunto 7.1 DVD distro can somebody tell me which the browser include in copy of image CD
[13:17] <wib> Pici: yes, i have a file "test.html" in there but it doesn't appear when i right-click->Create Document. it says "no templates installed"
[13:18] <grub_> murlidhar: in the livecd terminal?
[13:18] <aurehman> hi.. my ubuntu disk is almost full... /dev/sda1             3.8G  2.9G  673M  82% /... how can i remove temp files?
[13:18] <murlidhar> grub_, yes
[13:18] <grub_> murlidhar: or after chrooting?
[13:18] <grub_> murlidhar: ok, done
[13:19] <nickrud> wib try restarting nautilus (killall nautilus) I have it reading my Templates
[13:19] <LxRooT> i have ubunto 7.1 DVD distro can somebody tell me which the browser include in copy of image CD
[13:19] <LxRooT> i have ubunto 7.1 DVD distro can somebody tell me which the browser include in copy of image CD
[13:19] <FloodBot1> LxRooT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:19] <murlidhar> grub_, root (hd0,6) since ur ubuntu is in partition 7
[13:19] <pajamian> !repeat | LxRooT
[13:19] <ubotu> LxRooT: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[13:19] <grub_> murlidhar: ok
[13:19] <unop> LxRooT, firefox is definitely included
[13:19] <grub_> murlidhar: done
[13:19] <murlidhar> grub_, now setup (hd0)
[13:20] <murlidhar> grub_, quit
[13:20] <wib> Pici: i did so, no effect. "no templates installed"
[13:20] <orudie> any hot girls in here ASL ?
[13:20] <unop> orudie, this is #ubuntu
[13:20] <murlidhar> !ops
[13:20] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[13:20] <LxRooT> pajamian: i have ubunto 7.1 DVD distro can somebody tell me which the browser include in copy of image CD
[13:20] <grub_> murlidhar: with setup (hd0) i get cannot mount selected partition
[13:20] <woobit> !patience
[13:20] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[13:20] <nickrud> orudie not a pickup job
[13:20] <unop> murlidhar, why call the ops so soon?
[13:20] <nalioth> murlidhar: can we help you?
[13:21] <LxRooT> <naliot: i have ubunto 7.1 DVD distro can somebody tell me which the browser include in copy of image CD
[13:21] <orudie> sorry didnt know
[13:21] <PriceChild> LxRooT: It includes several browsers, depending on what version of ubutnu you install. it includes firefox, konqueror, and many more
[13:21] <Mez> ot | orudie
[13:21] <PriceChild> !repeat | LxRooT
[13:21] <ubotu> LxRooT: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[13:21] <Mez> !ot | orudie
[13:21] <murlidhar> nalioth, can we get a orudie behave?
[13:21] <ubotu> orudie: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:21] <dragisa> pozdrav
[13:21] <oliver_> erUSUL: What do I try?
[13:21] <oliver_> erUSUL: I dc and I lost what yousaid
[13:22] <murlidhar> grub_, do one thing don't mount them using terminal
[13:22] <LxRooT> PriceChild: i need to know which that many more??
[13:22] <nickrud> murlidhar he already apologized, unop had picked him up already.
[13:22] <grub_> murlidhar: then?
[13:22] <murlidhar> grub_, mount them with nautilus
[13:22] <LxRooT> PriceChild: i need to know which that many more??
[13:22] <grub_> murlidhar: ok, trying
[13:22] <aurehman> my ubuntu disk is almost full... /dev/sda1  3.8G 2.9G 673M 82% /... how can i remove temp files?
[13:22] <orudie> murlidhar, is desparate to ban me
[13:23] <oliver_> erUSUL: How do I install flash player?
[13:23] <PriceChild> LxRooT: There are many, he dvd includes everything in main.
[13:23] <murlidhar> orudie, i forgive u
[13:23] <LxRooT> ok
[13:23] <murlidhar> orudie, i don't want to ban you or kick u . just behave
[13:23] <nickrud> LxRooT might be easier if you told us which browser you were looking for
[13:24] <elkbuntu> orudie, just drop the subject please. this is a technical support channel, if you have technical support question, please ask it
[13:24] <elkbuntu> murlidhar, enough, thanks.
[13:24] <unop> LxRooT, look in here - http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/ubuntu-7.10-dvd-i386.list
[13:24] <grub_> murlidhar: how do to with nautilus?
[13:24] <woobit> Hey, I have a problem I could use some help with. My mobo is running my cpu fan too fast, so in winxp I just SpeedFan to set it to 60% - and all is good. What would be a just as simple ubuntu alternative?
[13:24] <murlidhar> grub_, double click on the linux partition and windows partition
[13:24] <aminos> i need help
[13:25] <murlidhar> !ask | aminos
[13:25] <ubotu> aminos: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:25] <oliver_> !flah
[13:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flah - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:25] <TwinX> aurehman; I temp files wont be so large, try this in terminal: sudo apt-get clean all
[13:25] <orudie> murlidhar, yeah enough, elkbuntu does ubuntu have HD video support ?
[13:25] <murlidhar> orudie, not sure
[13:25] <PriceChild> orudie: HD just means high definition... its not a special technology
[13:25] <nalioth> orudie: yes
[13:26] <elkbuntu> orudie, i believe so, but i dont know anything about it personally
[13:26] <jochmenDS> woobit use the bios settings to set it slower
[13:26] <murlidhar> grub_, done?
[13:26] <aminos> ok i have a laptop with 2 HD ,i can boot from HD1 or HD2 ,i want to keep a windows mbr and install and boot ubuntu from HD1 but i can't
[13:26] <samoth13> list
[13:27] <grub_> murlidhar: it is already mounted
[13:27] <grub_> murlidhar: in /media/disk
[13:27] <anodesni> Hi, I dont get signal in tvtime, have pinnacle pctv stereo ubuntu dapper 6.06.1
[13:27] <murlidhar> hmm
[13:27] <orudie> wow so many people are talking to me
[13:27] <aminos> now i installed grub om mbr
[13:28] <orudie> so matroska codec is supported ?
[13:28] <aminos> but i want to install it on HD2 and boot from there
[13:28] <oliver_> When I try to install flash player I get this error "ERROR: Your architecture, \'ppc\', is not supported by the Adobe Flash Player installer."
[13:28] <grub_> murlidhar: i wonder why it shows that cannt mount error
[13:28] <oliver_> What do  Ido?
[13:29] <woobit> jochmenDS: The BIOS just won't change it.... tried flashing and reseting and all
[13:29] <PriceChild> !gnash | oliver_
[13:29] <ubotu> oliver_: An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[13:29] <anodesni> please help
[13:29] <erUSUL> oliver_: i haven't see what exact error do you get...
[13:29] <grub_> murlidhar: if the installation failed at the grub-install step in the isntaller, is there something else which i would have to do manually too to get the system up and runnign?
[13:29] <murlidhar> grub_, didn't happen to me that atleast
[13:29] <ubuntu> de l aide
[13:29] <pajamian> oliver_: that's correct.  I think there is a version of flash player for ppc, though that you can DL and install yourself or you can use gnash.
[13:29] <ubuntu> de l aide svp
[13:29] <TwinX> !fr | ubuntu
[13:29] <ubotu> ubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:30] <nickrud> orudie yes, gstreamer and much else has support for that
[13:30] <grub_> murlidhar: hmm
[13:30] <aminos>  can you help me
[13:30] <jonnymac> I'm ubuntly challenged so the answer is probably uber simple. But why is the firefox on ubuntu partition so much slower than firefox in xp on my computer? Is there something I can do to speed it up?
[13:31] <BigSperMy> hey all, Whats the best Emulator(s) / Front end in regards to playing roms?
[13:31] <LjL> "playing roms"?
[13:31] <murlidhar> aminos, i am using windows on one partition of the first disk and  ubuntu on eight partition of the second disk
[13:31] <anodesni> BigSperMy: what roms?
[13:31] <erUSUL> BigSperMy: mame??
[13:31] <Lainy> BigSperMy: try zsnes for snes roms
[13:31] <murlidhar> grub_, i am all up .
[13:31] <jochmenDS> woobit maybe fan speed could be set with ubuntu check your motherboad and ubuntu , i believe it can be set in /proc/fan
[13:31] <aurehman> TwinX: thanx for your help
[13:32] <PriceChild> JohnRobert: have you benchmarked this to confirm? Sounds odd.
[13:32] <jochmenDS> visualboy
[13:32] <BigSperMy> I want to set up an Arcade machine - roms from snes, sega master system, atari and c64
[13:32] <TwinX> aurehman;  np, try also the deborphan and localepurge packages
[13:32] <murlidhar> grub_, i am afraid i can't do that ? can u ask somebody else
[13:32] <jochmenDS> for advance...
[13:32] <BigSperMy> SDLmame works but i can not find a decent front end.
[13:32] <grub_> murlidhar: yep, thanks for the help though :)
[13:32] <aurehman> TwinX: how can i do so?
[13:33] <TwinX> aurehman;  in synaptic or terminal
[13:33] <murlidhar> grub_, just make sure that u tell me that u are not able to mount the windows partition using live cd
[13:33] <aminos> yes i have windows on HD1 and ubuntu on Hd2 ,from bios i can boot HD1 or HD2, when i installed ubuntu in choose to install grub on hd2 but ..
[13:33] <TwinX> aurehman; I'll help you with install and run
[13:33] <murlidhar> grub_, just make sure that u tell me(them) that u are not able to mount the windows partition using live cd
[13:33] <grub_> murlidhar: yep
[13:34] <AzaTht-laptop> is it possible in gnome, similar to how it's possible in xfce4, to resize a window without having to move the mouse to the edge all the time?
[13:34] <murlidhar> aminos, grub is to installed on mbr
[13:34] <murlidhar> aminos, where is ur mbr installed?
[13:35] <mosno> AzaTht-laptop, alt + middle drag
[13:35] <AzaTht-laptop> mosno, ok
[13:35] <aminos> now but i want to install it on ubuntu partition and boot from there and keep windows mbr
[13:35] <AzaTht-laptop> difficult to do here on my laptop
[13:35] <nickrud> AzaTht-laptop or alt-f8, cursor keys
[13:36] <AzaTht-laptop> havn't really get hang of beeing able to push the two buttons at the same time :)
[13:36] <murlidhar> aminos, where is ur ubuntu partition (hd1,?)
[13:36] <aurehman> TwinX: plz help me in install and run
[13:36] <TwinX> aurehman; first: sudo apt-get install -y deborphan localepurge
[13:36] <murlidhar> aminos, where is ur ubuntu partition /dev/sdb?
[13:36] <woobit> jochmenDS: I can't find any fan in /proc... no hidden either (sorry I'm so slow to respond, was multi tasking on the phone and with irc/msn)
[13:37] <aminos> yes it is on hd1
[13:37] <|Dreams|> woobit you should try a dual core brain
[13:37] <|Dreams|> lol
[13:37] <aurehman> ok.. i m installing
[13:37] <woobit> hah
[13:37] <murlidhar> aminos, is the whole hd1 one whole partition?
[13:37] <woobit> I actually have quad core cpu, maybe I can split em
[13:37] <|Dreams|> lol
[13:37] <aminos> i use all hd2 for ubuntu
[13:37] <|Dreams|> yeah
[13:37] <woobit> wife would love that
[13:38] <AzaTht-laptop> nickrud, is it possible to change it?
[13:38] <TwinX> aurehman; localepurge will ask which locale you want to keep, keep your language.UTF-8 (check only tha box)
[13:38] <aminos> my 2nd hd for ubuntu
[13:38]  * |Dreams| has been linux only for 6 months now
[13:38] <murlidhar> aminos, so ur windows is on hd0 and ubuntu is on hd1 . right
[13:39] <aminos> it is right
[13:39] <jonnymac> I am seriously ubuntly challenged but enjoy using it much more than xp. Is there anywhee in London were I can meet someone up for a coupla drinks and get some advice on my computer? It's just that I'm seriously ubuntly challenged and have no idea what to do about the stuff that seemingly happens for no reason
[13:39] <nickrud> AzaTht-laptop the intiate key?  gconf-editor /apps/metacity/window_keybindings/begin_resize
[13:39] <murlidhar> aminos, so u want grub to be written on mbr?
[13:40] <AzaTht-laptop> k
[13:40] <|Dreams|> jonnny google is your friend and so is the library
[13:40] <Pici> jonnymac: You may want to check out #ubuntu-uk, perhaps theres a LUG near you ;)
[13:40] <jochmenDS> pickup line?
[13:40] <aminos> no no i want to keep my mbr and to boot from my 2nd HD
[13:40] <nickrud> jonnymac http://ubuntu-uk.org/
[13:40] <DarkJustice> does anyone happen to have a working .asoundrc for an ALC655 ac'97 realtek onboard sound card?  I've tried everything I can find on the forums and other places too and can't get sound but on 2 speakers instead of the 5.1 channel it's supposed to get
[13:40] <murlidhar> aminos, that can't be done. microsoft doesn't like it
[13:41] <aminos> no no it is possible with other linux dis..
[13:41] <AzaTht-laptop> nickrud, hmm
[13:42] <murlidhar> aminos, hmm
[13:42] <AzaTht-laptop> I meant, can I change move to alt+left click and rezize to alt + right click?
[13:42] <jonnymac> thanks all. I've been looking at hte books and trying google as much as I can. Just not gifted in that way. Can't figure it out for love nor money. :-[
[13:42] <aminos> i don't like microsoft but i use windows
[13:43] <murlidhar> aminos, i know but it is better to install grub on mbr , so that it is easier.
[13:43] <pjv> what's a good msn messenger client?
[13:43] <g[r]eek> Hi I am configuring NUT and need to specify "port" in /etc/nut/ups.conf - I am connecting to UPS via ehternet - what port do I specifiy?
[13:44] <g[r]eek> Pidgin
[13:44] <aminos> please
[13:44] <Lamego> !msn
[13:44] <ubotu> The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete
[13:44] <nickrud> AzaTht-laptop not sure about changing the mouse setups
[13:44] <murlidhar> aminos, i guess the method can be done by creating a boot.ini file
[13:44] <LjL> aminos, there are only two ways you could boot from the "second" HD while leaving the "first" HD's MBR unchanged: either the "first" HD has a bootloader that allows you to boot the "second" HD at your whim, or you go into the BIOS and tell it to boot from the "second" HD.
[13:44] <AzaTht-laptop> kk
[13:44] <aminos> i know it is easy to install it on mbr but i use a toshiba laptop
[13:45] <vandeilson> bom dia ..
[13:45] <pjv> cool thanks guys
[13:45] <LjL> !br | vandeilson
[13:45] <ubotu> vandeilson: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:45] <vandeilson> galera..
[13:45] <murlidhar> aminos, so why don't u want to install it on mbr?
[13:45] <murlidhar> aminos, i guess the method can be done by creating a boot.ini file
[13:45] <vandeilson> bom dia galera..
[13:45] <HSNews> how to check started 'X' server or not? by shell
[13:45] <aminos> where to create this boot. ini file
[13:45] <murlidhar> aminos, but i am afraid i don't know how to do that
[13:46] <LjL> aminos: ask in ##windows
[13:46] <wimbou> hi what is the best futureproof way to install a python2.3 on gutsy? download python2.3 and "install" it in my /usr/local ?
[13:46] <oliver_> When I try to install Gnash I get this error "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"
[13:46] <LjL> !be > oliver_    (oliver_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[13:46] <aminos> but with fedora to othere rpm dis was ....
[13:46] <murlidhar> aminos, why don;t u want to install it on mbr?
[13:46] <vandeilson> eu tó com um probleminha.... meu ssh eunão tó conseguindo copiar aquivo ou pastaa via ssh da esse erro ssh: connect to host 192.168.254.166 port 22: Connection refused
[13:46] <oliver_> !be
[13:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:46] <vandeilson> lost connection alguem pode me ajudar..??
[13:46] <erUSUL> wimbou: yep but do you really need 2.3 ?? afaik python releases are backwards compatible
[13:46] <LjL> !br | vandeilson
[13:46] <ubotu> vandeilson: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:46] <aminos> i sad for you friend
[13:47] <aminos> i said for you friend
[13:47] <vandeilson> eu tó com um probleminha.... meu ssh eunão tó conseguindo copiar aquivo ou pastaa via ssh da esse erro ssh: connect to host 192.168.254.166 port 22: Connection refused
[13:47] <vandeilson> lost connection alguem pode me ajudar..??
[13:47] <wimbou> erUSUL: yes i need it for my older zope instances
[13:47] <LjL> aminos, that's simply impossible. you can't expect to not change your MBR, or change the Windows settings, and be able to magically boot another HD.
[13:47] <aminos> my laptop is tv and dvd player i the same time
[13:48] <murlidhar> aminos, could u type my name in the message when u are talking to me so that it is easier for me to follow ur comments
[13:48] <vandeilson_> oi
[13:48] <vandeilson_> eu tó com um probleminha.... meu ssh eunão tó conseguindo copiar aquivo ou pastaa via ssh da esse erro ssh: connect to host 192.168.254.166 port 22: Connection refused
[13:48] <vandeilson_> lost connection alguem pode me ajudar..??
[13:48] <HSNews> how to startx with auth? where i can type Login and pass? (shell)
[13:48] <sipior> now we get to see if operant conditioning really works...
[13:49] <JPSman> how do I un-ignore someone in xchat???????
[13:49] <AzaTht> /UNIGNORE
[13:49] <murlidhar> aminos, do u want to boot both the systems simultaneously !!????
[13:49] <aminos> it is a japanese toshiba laptop with tv DVD player and windows ,sorry for this .the best is to keep all
[13:50] <murlidhar> aminos, it grub won;t destroy ur windows
[13:50] <AzaTht> aminos: you installed grub into MBR?
[13:50] <nationdemon> oh nice another grub prob...
[13:50] <oliver_> Now when I try to install the compiler I get this error "The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[13:50] <oliver_>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installedor
[13:50] <oliver_>                             libc-dev
[13:50] <oliver_>                    Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages"
[13:51] <FloodBot1> oliver_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:51] <murlidhar> AzaTht, he doesn't want to install grub on mbr
[13:51] <g[r]eek> Hi I am configuring NUT and need to specify "port" in /etc/nut/ups.conf - I am connecting to UPS via ehternet - what port do I specifiy?
[13:51] <AzaTht> murlidhar: then he has a problem
[13:51] <aminos> yes now on mbr but i want to install it on ubuntu partition on the hd1 and boot fronn there
[13:52] <AzaTht> aminos: that's pretty default
[13:52] <emil> who made the course fundamentals of unix?
[13:52] <murlidhar> aminos, do u what mbr does?
[13:52] <AzaTht> murlidhar: uh?
[13:52] <oliver_> Now when I try to install the compiler I get this error "The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[13:52] <oliver_>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installedor libc-dev Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.0) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages"
[13:52]  * AzaTht looks up in his aol lexicon
[13:52] <murlidhar> aminos, do u know what mbr does?
[13:52] <AzaTht> !mbr
[13:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:53] <Werdna> murlidhar: master boot record
[13:53] <b4l74z4r> the Pan newsreader doesn't display the time in 24 hour format even though i have that format set system wide
[13:53] <murlidhar> Werdna, i know
[13:53] <AzaTht> Werdna: iontelligent as usual ツ
[13:53] <aminos> before for example with fedora i can boot from my 2nd Hd and the mbr with windows stay  "safe"
[13:54] <oliver_> !gcc
[13:54] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[13:54] <Asashi> Guys, i have a problem. I'm under Hardy, and have installed the fglrx driver throught the restricted drivers manager. Everytime i enable compiz, i get a white screen. When i try to detect the fglrx driver with fglrxinfo command, the console says that i'm using a MESA driver. Checked xorg.conf, but it says that i'm using fglrx. What's going on, and how can i resolve this?
[13:54] <AzaTht> aminos: you still has it in the MBR of the second HD
[13:54] <oliver_> !mbr
[13:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:54] <AzaTht> aminos: you declare in BIOS what marddisk to load from
[13:55] <erUSUL> !hardy | Asashi
[13:55] <ubotu> Asashi: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:55] <AzaTht> ±spelling
[13:55] <AzaTht> !bios
[13:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:55] <aminos> yes i can , boot from HD1 or HD2
[13:55] <AzaTht> aminos: but if you want to keep windows on one hard disk, it's a good idea to amke a chainloader
[13:56] <nickrud> Asashi xorg.conf says what you want, but /var/log/Xorg.0.log says what gets used. What ati video card do you have?
[13:56] <AzaTht> instead of having to enter and exit the bios
[13:56] <nickrud> oh, missed the hardy part
[13:56] <AzaTht> you can chain grub → windows, but not windows → grub
[13:56] <murlidhar> exactly
[13:57] <AzaTht> windows doesn't know the concept of "other operation systems"
[13:57] <aminos> Mr murlidhar
[13:57] <murlidhar> yes ?
[13:57] <oliver_> Is there something other than Flash Player or Gnash?
[13:57] <murlidhar> aminos, listin what AzaTht says
[13:57] <AzaTht> oliver_: yes
[13:57] <oliver_> AzaTht: What?
[13:58] <AzaTht> oliver_: depends on what you are focusing on
[13:58] <aminos> what you think!
[13:58] <oliver_> AzaTht: Being abe to play online Flash games :P
[13:58] <nickrud> oliver_ Flash player is from adobe, it's the brazen standard
[13:58] <antubuntu> hello i juz installed a new dvd rom in my ubuntu gutsy.. I cant play a dvd nor vcd movie.. how?
[13:58] <AzaTht> aminos: if you just install ubuntu after you install windows, it should been done per automagic
[13:58] <DistroJockey> iambob: don't forget to register
[13:58] <AzaTht> oliver_: that I don't know ツ
[13:58] <DarkJustice> does anyone happen to have a working .asoundrc for an ALC655 ac'97 realtek onboard sound card?  I've tried everything I can find on the forums and other places too and can't get sound but on 2 speakers instead of the 5.1 channel it's supposed to get
[13:58] <nickrud> !dvd | antubuntu
[13:58] <ubotu> antubuntu: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[13:58] <helix82> Hi Guys, Yesterday i installed GNUMP3d for multimedia streaming...
[13:59] <murlidhar> AzaTht, without using grub , boot.ini file can be created to dual boot
[13:59] <helix82> it cant seem to convert to windows platform
[13:59] <Asashi> nickrud, is a radeon 9600pro
[13:59] <AzaTht> murlidhar: using lilo then?
[13:59] <murlidhar> AzaTht, yes
[13:59] <jimcooncat> What's an easy way to run a cron job, that will email me if a web page changes?
[14:00] <murlidhar> AzaTht, but it's an old concept
[14:00] <AzaTht> the advantage brub has is that it doesn't have to update the boot record everyime the boot menu is changed
[14:00] <AzaTht> the holy 512 bytes
[14:00] <tgillespie> hi, im trying to build a project with jam, and i get an ImportError: No module named python. which python package do i need to install?
[14:00] <aminos> install ubuntu will ask me where to install grub , i want to install it on the 2nd hd where i installed my ubuntu and to boot from it
[14:01] <murlidhar> aminos, AzaTht exactly that is why installing grub in mbr is fine and the best option
[14:01] <sivan> hi all, i install compiz on my ubuntu 7.10, but window decorator not work , when you help me?:)
[14:01] <Lamego> !compiz
[14:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[14:01] <AzaTht> aminos: then do so, and update the bios to boot from the second hard drive per default
[14:01] <Viele-baeren> ubuntu 8.04 comes out in 9 days, doesnt it?
[14:01] <iambob> laterz distrojockey.
[14:01] <iambob> thanks for everything.
[14:02] <DistroJockey> iambob: k, later, np, hope it helped
[14:02] <tgillespie> no scratch that, i get warning: unknown rule import.
[14:02] <aminos> i know but i want to install it on the 2nd hd where installed ubuntu and to boot from this 2nd hd
[14:02] <AzaTht> on this computer, I'm booting from an sata raid thingi
[14:02] <BobDobbs> Does anyone know of software that can send lots of files to a friend?
[14:02] <overrider> hi. how can i make apt-get upgrade honor my proxy variable which i set using export HTTP_PROXY=127.0.0.1:9099 ? thanks
[14:02] <grub_> murlidhar:
[14:02] <grub_> murlidhar: you around?
[14:02] <AzaTht> aminos: then do so
[14:02] <murlidhar> sivan, join #compiz for all ur doubts
[14:02] <murlidhar> grub_, yes
[14:02] <murlidhar> grub_, did it work?
[14:03] <grub_> murlidhar: in fdisk -l /dev/sda7 shows as HPFS/NTFS and not as Linux
[14:03] <noam_> question: what might cause this: http://picasaweb.google.com/noam.mor/HelloWorld/photo#5189456618707501090 ? i'm referring to the yellow lines, the black/white area is an edit made by me
[14:03] <noam_> the yellow lines are not
[14:03] <sipior> BobDobbs: scp is simplest, if you have a login on his machine
[14:03] <grub_> murlidhar: but in GParted it shows as ext3
[14:03] <aminos> i can set bios to boot from the 2nd hd but with this nothing change
[14:03] <AzaTht> grub-install /deb/hdb
[14:03] <grub_> murlidhar: any idea why?
[14:03] <BobDobbs> sipior: I dont know what that means
[14:04] <noam_> argh, the yellow things started again
[14:04] <grub_> AzaTht: not found
[14:04] <nationdemon> lil prob with grub here to. got an ide (ata) and a sata, gutsy on ide, winxp/vista on sata. i am able to start gutsy and the windows boot selector. if i select xp it does an instant reboot, vista boots correct...
[14:04] <murlidhar> grub_, hhmm
[14:04] <sipior> BobDobbs: you'll have to be more specific regarding where you want to send these files, and how.
[14:04] <Sverre^> Hello
[14:04] <AzaTht> grub_: uh?
[14:04] <iuri> hi there, my ubuntu hasn't installed my wireless card
[14:04] <iuri> how to install it anyway?
[14:04] <grub_> AzaTht: i dont have /dev/hdb
[14:04] <Sverre^> no
[14:05] <AzaTht-laptop> grub_, was talking to aminos
[14:05] <grub_> AzaTht-laptop: oh
[14:05] <antubuntu> hello i juz installed a new dvd rom in my ubuntu gutsy.. I cant play a dvd nor vcd movie.. how?
[14:05] <mojo> helo, everyone, I have a question, not sure if ppl can help me out
[14:05] <AzaTht> ツ
[14:05] <AzaTht> or at least, trying to talk
[14:05] <BobDobbs> Sipior: Well actually its between my desktop and laptop, both running Ubuntu, both connected to the net wirelessly to my neighbors network
[14:05] <antubuntu> hello i juz installed a new dvd rom in my ubuntu gutsy.. I cant play a dvd nor vcd movie.. how?
[14:06] <aminos> problem when install ubuntu and with the advanced option waht to enter about grub install hd0 or hd1 : hd0 will install grub on mbr , with hd1 can't boot anything
[14:06] <antubuntu> what should i do?
[14:06] <legend2440> !dvd | antubuntu
[14:06] <ubotu> antubuntu: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[14:06] <BobDobbs> Sipior: If I could I would just set up a little local area network here from wirelss card to wireless card, but I dont know how or if I even can
[14:06] <AzaTht> aminos: each hard drive will have an own MBR (it's the first 512 bytes of the disc)
[14:06] <emil> hi who made the course fundamentals of unix?
[14:07] <sipior> BobDobbs: that's easy. since you have an account on both machines, simply stick all of the files in one directory, and try "scp -r <directory> <destination machine name>:". The terminating colon is important.
[14:08] <aminos> but when i decided to install grub on the 2nd hd where ubuntu is ,and reboot nothing was to boot
[14:08] <Pici> emil: I'd try asking that in ##linux.  #ubuntu is only for Ubuntu support questions.
[14:08] <AzaTht> aminos: hmm
[14:08] <murlidhar> grub_, strange very strange
[14:08] <{g}> Hey People!
[14:08] <{g}> What does it mean, when a server has a constant load between 2 and 3, but only uses about 5% cpu time?
[14:09] <aminos> i have something to say this laptop with the option raid 0 or raid 1
[14:09] <murlidhar> aminos, AzaTht that's because both both mbrs conflict each other during boot
[14:09] <sipior> {g}: it's probably doing heavy I/O
[14:09] <AzaTht> murlidhar: not really
[14:09] <aminos> how this
[14:09] <AzaTht> as you instruct bios to boot from one hard drive
[14:09] <murlidhar> ah yes
[14:09] <grub_> murlidhar: this is actually a friends laptop, the one having this issue. What i am thinking is, they might have reinstalled windows without formatting it.. but then, i dont see any data in the drives. Ubuntu worked fine in the system before
[14:10] <emil> pici the course include ubuntu os
[14:10] <AzaTht> grub_: ntfs support in linux is ok now
[14:10] <murlidhar> AzaTht, grub_ has some diff probs
[14:10] <AzaTht> though not optimal for daily use
[14:10] <grub_> i have other issues
[14:10] <aminos> i like ubuntu , i want to install ubuntu ,before it no problem with fedora for example
[14:10] <grub_> grub isn't installing
[14:11] <blooz> Hello! I'm a fairly recent Linux convert and I'm having an issue with Gmail SSL certificates, using sylpheed on Ubuntu. They're not getting stored locally, even though I clicked that option on the first pull - any ideas where they should get saved?
[14:11] <swmiller6> Can I setup ssh to use port 80?
[14:11] <overrider> please, how can i make apt-get use my proxy server ? i have exported it, and set it in /etc/bash.bashrc to no avail. thanks
[14:11] <blooz> Did that display right - some seems to be missing here?
[14:11] <grub_> and my partition doesnt show as Linux in fdisk -l but shows as ext3 in GParted
[14:11] <BobDobbs> sipior: how do I determine my machine name?
[14:11] <sipior> swmiller6: in principle, but it would be a bit bizarre
[14:11] <blooz> Hello! I'm a fairly recent Linux convert and I'm having an issue with Gmail SSL certificates, using sylpheed on Ubuntu. They're not getting stored locally, even though I clicked that option on the first pull - any ideas where they should get saved?
[14:11] <overrider> BobDobbs: uname -a or hostname
[14:11] <grub_> murlidhar: should i try fixboot/ficmbr ?
[14:11] <aurehman> TwinX: it is asking locale... which one should I select
[14:11] <grub_> *fixmbr
[14:11] <sipior> BobDobbs: simplest is just to use the ip address, from ifconfig
[14:11] <blooz> That's better
[14:11] <grub_> murlidhar: from windows?
[14:12] <sipior> BobDobbs: this will work even absent correct name translation
[14:12] <swmiller6> I need to get past a router or will I still need to port forward
[14:12] <murlidhar> grub_,  one sec
[14:12] <grub_> murlidhar: ok
[14:12] <BobDobbs> how will SCP transfer these?  wirelessly?
[14:12] <BobDobbs> sipior: how will SCP transfer these?  wirelessly?
[14:12] <arvind_khadri> grub_, whats your problem would you mind going on it again
[14:12] <sipior> BobDobbs: well, over the network, so if you've a wireless network, then yes
[14:12] <AzaTht-laptop> BobDobbs, like normal scp
[14:13] <arvind_khadri> murlidhar, whats grub's problem??
[14:13] <murlidhar> AzaTht, grub_ 's fdisk -l shows linux partition as NTFS and gparted shows as ext3
[14:13] <murlidhar> arvind_khadri, ^
[14:13] <grub_> arvind_khadri: I was installing ubuntu using a livecd, i choose /dev/sda7 for /. Then it failed in the grub-install step. I tried manually installing it
[14:13] <AzaTht-laptop> ha
[14:13] <AzaTht-laptop> haha*
[14:13] <BobDobbs> AzaTht-laptop: I've never heard of scp before or even 'normal' scp
[14:13] <grub_> also, arvind_khadri what murlidhar said
[14:13] <sipior> BobDobbs: if you're concerned about revealing login credentials on a wireless network, rest assured that scp encrypts those perfectly well
[14:13] <grub_> fdisk and GParted hate each other :(
[14:13] <AzaTht-laptop> BobDobbs, scp == ssh cp, i.e. cp over ssh
[14:13] <franz1789> Does soundconverter support ape files?
[14:13] <AzaTht-laptop> ssh == secure shell
[14:14] <swmiller6> does anyone know if I will still need to port forward to ssh into port 80?
[14:14] <aminos> ok think you very much i still like linux i still like ubuntu
[14:14] <blooz> Ah just found there is a whole Sylpheed help page on this - and I suppose it is bearly on topic so I'll read first and come back only in desperation :)
[14:14] <AzaTht-laptop> i.e. ssh == encryped telnet
[14:14] <arvind_khadri> grub_, well so finally what happened
[14:14] <BobDobbs> sipior: no not worried about that
[14:14] <sipior> swmiller6: to answer that, we would need to know what exactly you wish to accomplish
[14:14] <emil> hi who made the course fundamentals of unix?
[14:14] <BobDobbs> ok i'll try
[14:14] <sipior> emil: what precisely are you referring to?
[14:14] <grub_> arvind_khadri: i tried installing grub by chrooting into the partition, it didn't work. I got error 17 on setup (hd0) step
[14:14] <AzaTht-laptop> aminos, can't find a reason from my mind why it wouldn't work
[14:14] <AzaTht-laptop> !ss
[14:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:14] <AzaTht-laptop> !ssh
[14:14] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[14:15] <nickrud> grub_ what version of ubuntu are you installing?
[14:15] <swmiller6> ﻿sipior: connect to my dads coomputer 1800 miles away and set fix a few things for him
[14:15] <grub_> nickrud: gutsy
[14:15] <emil> i refer to exams
[14:15] <murlidhar> emil, ain't this offtopic
[14:15] <arvind_khadri> grub_, hmm well first you need to mount it then chroot it
[14:15] <sipior> emil: this isn't really a homework channel
[14:15] <AzaTht-laptop> swmiller6, hehe, done that too
[14:15] <grub_> the installation worked fine before. I am facing this problem ever since they reinstalled or formatted the laptop
[14:15] <grub_> arvind_khadri: yes, i know. done all that
[14:16] <sipior> swmiller6: and outbound ssh is blocked?
[14:16] <ikonia> grub_: I'm back now, ar eyou still having grub issues ?
[14:16] <arvind_khadri> grub_, whats the problem error 17??
[14:16] <grub_> ikonia: yes :(
[14:16] <swmiller6> yes
[14:16] <murlidhar> !offtopic | emil
[14:16] <ubotu> emil: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[14:16] <emil> yes but is a friends channel
[14:16] <ikonia> grub_: ok - whats the current status
[14:16] <BigSperMy> Whats a good front end for SDL Mame ?
[14:16] <sipior> swmiller6: where is it blocked, his end or yours?
[14:16] <grub_> ikonia: fdisk -l shows /dev/sda7 as NTFS
[14:16] <murlidhar> emil, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:16] <AzaTht-laptop> wonder if I can get my HSDPA USB MODEM up to 7.2Mbit
[14:16] <grub_> ikonia: but GParted shows it as ext3
[14:16] <ikonia> grub_: what is that a problem ?
[14:16] <emil> ok
[14:17] <grub_> ikonia: that is supposed to be my linux parition
[14:17] <ikonia> grub_: file system and parttion type are two different things
[14:17] <swmiller6> ﻿sipior: his end I can not get into his router to setup port forwarding
[14:17] <grub_> ikonia: i see
[14:17] <AzaTht-laptop> though that's a hardy problem now
[14:17] <murlidhar> ikonia, , grub_ 's fdisk -l shows linux partition as NTFS and gparted shows as ext3
[14:17] <ikonia> grub_: fdisk is not aware of any file system
[14:17] <ikonia> murlidhar: thats not a problem
[14:17] <grub_> ikonia: when i do setup (hd0) in grub ( inside the chroot) i get error 17: cannot mount partition
[14:17] <ikonia> murlidhar: fdisk is not aware of any file systems
[14:17] <grub_> ikonia: shouldn't it show Linux?
[14:17] <ikonia> grub_: why are you doing this in a chroot ?
[14:17] <ikonia> grub_: the partition type should be linux yes,
[14:17] <sipior> swmiller6: but you'll still need to get access to his machine to configure ssh to listen on a different port
[14:17] <grub_> ikonia: even outside the chroot i get the same error
[14:17] <murlidhar> ikonia, oh ok
[14:17] <ikonia> grub_: mount /dev/sda7 confirm it is the partition you expect it to be
[14:18] <grub_> ikonia: yes, done. and it is the partition i want. Everything else is windows
[14:18] <swmiller6> ﻿sipior: I can have him do that but he does not have the password for the router
[14:18] <nickrud> grub_ there's a long bug, been around since forever: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/14135
[14:19] <sipior> swmiller6: i see. then yeah, have him set sshd to listen on whatever isn't blocked by the router, and off you go
[14:19] <ikonia> grub_: ok, so which one is your linux root partition /dev/sda7 ?
[14:19] <swmiller6> ﻿sipior: I just wanted to know if port 80 would work. So you think it will if I have him set it up in sshd config?
[14:19] <arvind_khadri> grub_, go for a re-install
[14:19] <swmiller6> ﻿sipior: ok thanks
[14:19] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: you want him to re-install the OS because of grub not installing
[14:19] <murlidhar> arvind_khadri, that's not an ideal solution
[14:19] <sipior> swmiller6: sure, unless he's running a web server.
[14:19] <grub_> ikonia: yes, /dev/sda7 is my /
[14:19] <erUSUL> nickrud: grub_ yes i was bitten by it to.. workaraund? disconnect pata drives and do the install on sata disk.
[14:19] <grub_> arvind_khadri: reinstall? :(
[14:19] <swmiller6> ﻿sipior: no not running a web server
[14:20] <swmiller6> lol
[14:20] <ikonia> grub_: ok, do you have a seperate /boot partition ?
[14:20] <grub_> i dont want to reinstall
[14:20] <grub_> ikonia: nope, no seperate paritions for anything
[14:20] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, murlidhar well what can be done if there is no solution and a bug
[14:20] <ikonia> grub_: thats great.
[14:20] <ikonia> ok drop out of the chroot, I assume your on the livecd ?
[14:20] <grub_> ikonia: yes
[14:20] <ikonia> grub_: is /dev/sda your boot disk too
[14:21] <grub_> ikonia: yes
[14:21] <grub_> i have no other disks
[14:21] <ikonia> grub_: great, ok type "sudo grub"
[14:21] <grub_> done
[14:21] <acquario> ciao
[14:21] <grub_> ikonia: root (hd0,6) ?
[14:21] <ikonia> grub_: ok, now do "setup (hd0,5)" (I think it will be 5
[14:21] <ikonia> grub_: sorry
[14:21] <ikonia> grub_: root (hd0,5)
[14:21] <grub_> 5?
[14:22] <grub_> shouldn't it be 6?
[14:22] <malin_> #ubuntu-fr
[14:22] <ikonia> grub_: you don't count the extended partition
[14:22] <murlidhar> ain't it always (n-1)
[14:22] <ikonia> grub_: did 6 work ?
[14:22] <grub_> oooh
[14:22] <grub_> ikonia: yeep, it didn't show any error
[14:22] <nickrud> aahhh
[14:22] <ikonia> murlidhar: not if your on extended partitions, not always
[14:22] <ikonia> grub_: oh, it maybe 6 then,
[14:22] <ikonia> grub_: it didn't complain about not finding stage1 or anything ?
[14:23] <grub_> ikonia: no, but when i did find /boot/grub/stage1 it said cannot find file
[14:23] <grub_> ikonia: befire the root( step
[14:23] <ikonia> grub_: onthing thing at a time
[14:23] <ikonia> grub_: so out of interest if you do "root (hd0,5)" does it error ?
[14:23] <Sichuan208> hi all! Fellow "NEW" linuxer...
[14:23] <grub_> ikonia: trying, 1 sec
[14:23] <bazhang> hi Sichuan208
[14:23] <mapping> Hi
[14:23] <talcite> hey guys, what was the name of that mouse util used to capture mouse movement and button clicks within a little square?
[14:23] <talcite> it was packaged with Xorg I think
[14:23] <Sichuan208> anyone here have tx1200 HP touchscreen?
[14:23] <sipior> talcite: xev?
[14:23] <grub_> ikonia: can you gimme a min here? i
[14:24] <talcite> sipior: ahhh thank you
[14:24] <ikonia> grub_ sure
[14:24] <grub_> ikonia: *i'll brb
[14:24] <ikonia> grub_: thats fine
[14:24] <murlidhar> ikonia, could u explain on line that u said to me before
[14:24] <aliosha> I need some help compiling gimp from source...
[14:24] <ikonia> murlidhar: what did I say ?
[14:24] <hischild> Sichuan208, good afternoon. I don't have one, but perhaps you can explain the problem should you have one.
[14:24] <arvind_khadri> aliosha, yeah go on
 murlidhar: not if your on extended partitions, not always
[14:24] <ikonia> aliosha: why compile gimp from source, it's in the repo ?
[14:25] <bazhang> aliosha: any reason not to use the one in repos
[14:25] <aliosha> arvind_khadri, ikonia: 2.5.
[14:25] <arvind_khadri> aliosha, do you have the source
[14:25] <ikonia> murlidhar: ahh ok, depending on your setup an extended partition will be a "partition eg: 1 real, 2 real, 3 extended, 4 logical, 5 logical, 6 logical
[14:25] <Chukchi_Husky> I'm habing problems trying to get a network card to work.
[14:25] <ikonia> murlidhar: in grub terms you shouldn't count partition 3 the extended partition
[14:25] <aliosha> arvind_khadri: I've almost finished. Just i've got glib 2.14 and 2.17 and it finds the former not the latter
[14:25] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: which card what chipset
[14:25] <zero> hi can any one help me with nvidia problems under 8.04 ?
[14:25] <gooody>  /msg ##java register g092684
[14:26] <ikonia> zero: join #ubuntu+1
[14:26] <Chukchi_Husky> Netgear FA311 v2
[14:26] <bazhang> zero that would be #ubuntu+1
[14:26] <arvind_khadri> aliosha, cant get you
[14:26] <ikonia> gooody: what do you think your doing ?
[14:26] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, didnt see you around
[14:26] <aliosha> arvind_khadri: pardon?
[14:26] <zero> thx
[14:26] <Sichuan208> hi bazhang I'm using this JAVA irc and don't know how to make it work... :p
[14:26] <sipior> aliosha: what did you specify in configure?
[14:26] <bazhang> hi arvind_khadri
[14:26] <murlidhar> ikonia, i have ubuntu install on (hd0,7) i.e, /dev/sdb8
[14:26] <bazhang> Sichuan208: what is the name?
[14:26] <aliosha> sipior: nought, I just ran ./configure and it did itself
[14:26] <Sichuan208> I looked at the Ubuntu wiki for the touchscreen on the xt1000 hp
[14:27] <arvind_khadri> aliosha what do you want to say about the glib
[14:27] <murlidhar> ikonia, it is logical
[14:27] <aliosha> arvind_khadri: I have 2 versions and it detected the older not the newer
[14:27] <Sichuan208> I follow what it say. I got an error, same error listed by other user... why? what causes error?
[14:27] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: is that pci, usb or pcmcia
[14:27] <ikonia> myrtion: it depends on the setup
[14:27] <sipior> aliosha: try "./configure --help" and look for a switch to specify the location of glib
[14:27] <ikonia> delcoyote: hence why I said I wasn't sure if it was 5 or 6
[14:27] <Chukchi_Husky> PCI
[14:27] <bazhang> Sichuan208: what is the app name
[14:27] <grub_> ikonia: ok done, root (hd0,5) doesn't show any error too
[14:27] <antubuntu> why does my newly installed samsung dvd writer dont work seem right here in my ubuntu gutsy?
[14:27] <arvind_khadri> aliosha hmm so the app needs newer one
[14:27] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: what does lspci say about the chipset on that card
[14:28] <ikonia> grub_: ok, thats worrying
[14:28] <grub_> :(
[14:28] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: just the one line
[14:28] <ikonia> grub_: lets change your partition type to the right type
[14:28] <Sichuan208> bazhang, can you see query?
[14:28] <aliosha> arvind_khadri: yep. pkg-config returns the newer, but make finds the old one
[14:28] <Sichuan208> it's not app.
[14:28] <Sichuan208> touchscreen
[14:28] <bazhang> Sichuan208: better to do it here
[14:28] <Sichuan208> use evtouch
[14:28] <antubuntu> when my system detects as it is dvdrw it wont mount?
[14:28] <Chukchi_Husky> It doesn't say anything about it.
[14:28] <grub_> ikonia: how do i do that?
[14:28] <Sichuan208> Ok... I follow the instructions I got error...
[14:28] <arvind_khadri> aliosha, why dont you remove the older one??
[14:29] <Sichuan208> don't know why?
[14:29] <ikonia> grub_: fdisk /dev/sda
[14:29] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: this is internal or card you insert on the side
[14:29] <antubuntu> do i have to type a command for that?
[14:29] <aliosha> because the old one seems to be in everything's dependancies
[14:29] <Chukchi_Husky> I opened up the case to insert the card.
[14:29] <arvind_khadri> aliosha hmm i too thought so
[14:30] <grub_> ikonia: it shows the no of cylinders are set to 14593 whih is > 1024
[14:30] <grub_> ikonia: is that normal?
[14:30] <ikonia> grub_: errrr no
[14:30] <arvind_khadri> aliosha well can you somehow disable the older one for sometime
[14:30] <antubuntu> its a sata drive
[14:30] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: could you type in terminal ifconfig and say if there are three entries or two; eth0 lo and a third or not
[14:30] <antubuntu> anyone help?
[14:30] <iclebyte> this isnt ubuntu specific... but i just hit some random keys and inverted the colours in gedit.. any idea what i did?
[14:30] <kate321> Hello, I need help please, does Ubuntu able to open access database ?
[14:30] <aliosha> I *could* run ./configure --disable-glibtest
[14:30] <grub_> ikonia: hmm, so i think the windows format/reinstall is the culprit?
[14:30] <arvind_khadri> aliosha, then what happens
[14:31] <aliosha> arvind_khadri: haven't tried it yet
[14:31] <arvind_khadri> aliosha, please do try :)
[14:31] <Chukchi_Husky> It has lo but no eth0.
[14:31] <joker2048_> hi, any idea here regarding the openVZ support in the upcoming ubuntu version? Will there be packages available?
[14:31] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: could you pastebin the output of lspci please
[14:31] <ikonia> grub_: not sure, something looks pretty wrong here
[14:31] <grub_> ikonia: it also shows that there might be a problem with 1) sofwtware that run at boot time ( eg. old versions of LILO) and 2) booting and partitioning software frmo other OSs
[14:31] <joker2048_> or a hint where i can find such a information?
[14:31] <bazhang> !paste | Chukchi_Husky
[14:31] <ubotu> Chukchi_Husky: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:32] <ikonia> grub_: to a "t" on partition 7 and change it to 83
[14:32] <grub_> ikonia: ok, what would you suggest now. I am willing to reformat everything from
[14:32]  * delcoyote hi
[14:32] <ikonia> grub_: hopefully you won't have to format everything,
[14:32] <tlacuache> how can i determine exactly what version of glibc I have?
[14:32] <Chukchi_Husky> It's on a computer I don't have connected to the internet.
[14:32] <bazhang> joker2048_: that would be best asked in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[14:32] <murlidhar> better bCK UP
[14:32] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: makes no difference
[14:32] <grub_> ikonia: ok, done changed
[14:33] <ikonia> grub_: now does it show up as "linux" for the partition ?
[14:33] <aliosha> adv: failed miserably
[14:33] <carldani> hi, is it possible to create an ubuntu live usb key without having to boot ubuntu? the wiki suggests I have to boot ubuntu and install to usb
[14:33] <aliosha> arvind_khadri: failed
[14:33] <joker2048_> bazhang: : thx
[14:33] <grub_> ikonia: without a restart, right?
[14:33] <bazhang> carldani: from windows? sure can be done
[14:33] <grub_> ikonia: no, i still see HPFS/NTFS
[14:33] <carldani> bazhang: no, from linux
[14:34] <arvind_khadri> aliosha wht error??
[14:34] <ikonia> grub_: are you sure your changing the right partition,
[14:34] <bazhang> www.pendrivelinux.com has details carldani
[14:34] <ikonia> grub_: can you show me the output of fdisk -l /dev/sda and then the output of "fdisk" with option "p" in a pastebin please.
[14:34] <grub_> ikonia: /dev/sda7 ( i mounted it and yes, this has the system )
[14:34] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: no more help needed then?
[14:34] <ikonia> grub_: /dev/sda7 is not always partition 7
[14:34] <grub_> ikonia: one sec
[14:35] <aliosha> arvind_khadri: *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[14:35] <Chousuke> kate321: Hmm
[14:35] <arvind_khadri> aliosha you need to have all the -dev files
[14:35] <bazhang> Sichuan208: the java touchscreen you are using; could you give me the link to the ubuntu wiki please
[14:35] <Chukchi_Husky> I'm still typing it in.
[14:36] <Chousuke> kate321: it seems OO.org on linux isn't able to open access databases directly, but you can try exporting your database into CSV first and importing it in oo.org
[14:36] <Chukchi_Husky> It's on a different computer and the only way I can get it is to write it down line bu line.
[14:36] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: ah that seems a really big task; no way to connect via ethernet at the moment?
[14:37] <lalala> cls
[14:37] <iclebyte> lalala, you have the best nick i've seen on irc in a while.
[14:37] <Sverre^> sup
[14:37] <iclebyte> =)
[14:37] <bazhang> lalala you have a question?
[14:37] <Howitzer> Is there a way to mount a disk trough fstab without having to reboot?
[14:37] <Sichuan208> cat /proc/bus/input/device
[14:37] <Chukchi_Husky> No other way.
[14:37] <ikonia> Howitzer: mount /mount_point
[14:37] <lalala> iclebyte:  ;)
[14:37] <erUSUL> Howitzer: mount mountpoint
[14:37] <Sverre^> interest
[14:37] <iclebyte> Howitzer, yeah man. just type mount mountpoint
[14:37] <iclebyte> 3 replies =)
[14:37] <Sichuan208> I: Bus=0003 Vendor=0eef Product=0001 Version=0210 N: Name="eGalax INC. USB TouchController"  P: Phys=usb-0000:00:0b.1-2.3/input0 S: Sysfs=/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.1/usb1/1-2/1-2.3/1-2.3:1.0/input/input1  U: Uniq= H: Handlers=mouse0 event1 B: EV=1b  B: KEY=401 0 30000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 B: ABS=f B: MSC=10
[14:38] <Howitzer> hahaha
[14:38] <carldani> bazhang: the www.pendrivelinux.com tutorial explicitly says I have to boot ubuntu to create the live usb pen drive image. any tutorial which does not require booting ubuntu and can work from a running linux system will be appreciated
[14:38] <Howitzer> thanks all :)
[14:38] <iclebyte> someone must know gedit?..
[14:38] <iclebyte> Howitzer, np
[14:38] <Howitzer> aaargh
[14:38] <grub_> ikonia: fdisk -p ?
[14:38] <ikonia> grub_: no
[14:38] <murlidhar> ikonia, i am in doubt why don't i have sdb3
[14:38] <iclebyte> Howitzer, sup?
[14:38] <ikonia> fdisk
[14:38] <ikonia> fdisk /dev/sda
[14:38] <Howitzer> i can't get this fstab line correct
[14:38] <bazhang> carldani: what is your final goal? to dual boot linux/linux; or replace current linux with ubuntu or other
[14:38] <grub_> ikonia: ok, 1 sec
[14:38] <murlidhar> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63313/
[14:38] <ikonia> grub_: THEN option o
[14:38] <ikonia> option P
[14:38] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <Sichuan208> ./ev_calibrate evalibrate located at ./ev_calibrate xinit located at /usr/bin/xinit xserver located at /usr/bin/X Creating FIFO... Starting calibration program...  X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
[14:39] <zoobox> iclebyte: what do you want to know about gedit?
[14:39] <murlidhar> lol
[14:39] <Sichuan208> my error after following the instructions, I don't know why it is so?
[14:39] <erUSUL> ikonia: tss tss i didn't expect that from you ;P
[14:39] <ikonia> erUSUL: it's getting quite annoying
[14:39] <bazhang> Sichuan208: would be better to just link me to the wiki thanks
[14:39] <iclebyte> zoobox, i hit some random keys by mistake and inverted the colours - restarted gedit and its back to normal now, just wondering what i did..
[14:39] <lalala> Just a small, fast one...a simple yes or no can do here =) Can I partison my HD in 3? 1 part for Win, 1 for Ubuntu, and a 3rd (large pertision) that can be accesses (read AND write) by both Win and Ubuntu?
[14:39] <Spidla> hi everyone, I got problem with my Ubuntu ... can someone please help me ?
[14:40] <iclebyte> lalala, yes
[14:40] <ikonia> Spidla: ask the question
[14:40] <bazhang> lalala yes
[14:40] <murlidhar> ikonia, did u see my fdisk -l from pastebin
[14:40] <arvind_khadri> Spidla, yea say
[14:40] <erUSUL> ikonia: we have one of those in #ubuntu-es too :|
[14:40] <ikonia> murlidhar: no I didn't sorry
[14:40] <lalala> thanks, I'm off to do some research then =)
[14:40] <Spidla> the problem is this ... after upgrading from Gutsy to Ubuntu my GDM stopped working and hangs during start
[14:40] <iclebyte> lalala, you'll want that final partition to be NTFS so both linux and ubuntu can read and write to it tho
[14:40] <murlidhar> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63313/
[14:40] <grub__> ikonia: fdisk /dev/sda http://rafb.net/p/OSKZh736.html
[14:40] <Howitzer> WOOOO
[14:40] <carldani> bazhang: I have a working linux machine (my desktop) which I can't reboot due to long-running programs. I'd like to use this machine to create a bootable usb flash drive for my thincan/linutop thin client. The thin client can only boot from usb.
[14:40] <Howitzer> thank god
[14:40] <grub__> ikonia: fdisk /dev/sda and then option o?
[14:40] <lalala> oh...cant linux read fat32?
[14:41] <murlidhar> ikonia, can u explain why don't i have sdb3 sdb4
[14:41] <iclebyte> lalala, yea it can..
[14:41] <ikonia> grub__: no, option P
[14:41] <ikonia> p
[14:41] <murlidhar> lalala, it can
[14:41] <grub__> ok ikonia
[14:41] <Spidla> it hangs with blank screen I acnt even switch to console or end th X session
[14:41] <Howitzer> my partition is finally being mounted correctly
[14:41] <arvind_khadri> Spidla, re-configure it
[14:41] <iclebyte> Howitzer, good work.
[14:41] <erUSUL> murlidhar: if you do not have a 3rd and 4th primary partitions you do not have that dev files
[14:41] <alx54> hi there! my folder .kde/Autostart is empty, and there is no option "load on startup" in skype... now how do i prevent skype from loading on startup? maybe ikonia can help me?
[14:41] <Howitzer> hahahaha
[14:41] <Spidla> yeah i tried to reconfigure with no success
[14:41] <Howitzer> thanks
[14:41] <iclebyte> np
[14:41] <bazhang> carldani: does the thin client have some OS on it now? or is it using the desktop as a thick client
[14:41] <Spidla> sometimes it starts and sometime is doesnt
[14:42] <arvind_khadri> Spidla, purge??
[14:42] <ikonia> murlidhar: they are reserved for primary partitions
[14:42] <grub__> ikonia: http://rafb.net/p/EGlh2635.html
[14:42] <grub__> ikonia: thats with option p
[14:42] <Spidla> yeah i tried even this ..
[14:42] <grub__> murlidhar: take a look ^
[14:42] <carldani> bazhang: the thin client is completely empty. no os whatsoever.
[14:42] <Sichuan208> what gives this error on tx1100 touch screen?
[14:42] <Sichuan208> ./ev_calibrate evalibrate located at ./ev_calibrate xinit located at /usr/bin/xinit xserver located at /usr/bin/X Creating FIFO... Starting calibration program...  X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
[14:42] <arvind_khadri> Spidla, re-install??
[14:42] <Spidla> I thing it has some connection with fglrx driver
[14:42] <ikonia> grub__: ok, that makes sense now
[14:42] <alx54> hi there! my folder .kde/Autostart is empty, and there is no option "load on startup" in skype... now how do i prevent skype from loading on startup? maybe grub__ or bazhang can help me?
[14:42] <Sichuan208> I get his error when I run calibration.
[14:42] <arvind_khadri> Spidla, hmm
[14:42] <ikonia> grub__: and your %100 certain that /dev/sda is your linux partition
[14:42] <bazhang> Sichuan208: without a link to the wiki no idea
[14:42] <Sichuan208> I also an't get my touchscreen to react in fact
[14:43] <grub__> ikonia: also /dev/sda7 = linux files are there
[14:43] <Howitzer> when making symlinks, does the name of the symlink go first or the target?
[14:43] <Spidla> because since I downloaded some updates it started to work again ... and then another update .... and it is not working again
[14:43] <zoobox> iclebyte: hmm.. there is a setting for font and colors, "Oblivion" is sort of inverted..... by I really hope there is no hotkeys to change to that....
[14:43] <{g}> Is it possible to boot from an ubuntu CD so that it only starts a shell?
[14:43] <Sichuan208> ok... wiki link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644258
[14:43] <ikonia> grub__: ok - so fdisk /dev/sda
[14:43] <Spidla> the shame is that I cant find any error in log files
[14:43] <arvind_khadri> Spidla, so something borke it??
[14:43] <user1> where to download vbox puel version?
[14:44] <grub__> ikonia: ok
[14:44] <Sichuan208> The instructions are straight forward, but something isn't connecting up. I've posted some things and can post my ORIGINAL settings without changes if you think it will help
[14:44] <Spidla> i am not sure .. when I start GNOME with startx command ... then it works fine ...
[14:44] <ikonia> grub__: not "t"
[14:44] <Spidla> only GDM is problem
[14:44] <ikonia> grub__: then select partition "5"
[14:44] <murlidhar> grub_, don't u have swap ?
[14:44] <grub__> murlidhar: no, not yet
[14:44] <Spidla> I cant understand it .. sometimes it works sometimes not
[14:44] <bazhang> carldani: you dont need to boot ubuntu, but you need at least an ubuntu iso (or the necessary files to copy over) to create the bootable usb stick
[14:45] <ikonia> grub__: sorry, option "t" then partition "5"
[14:45] <legend2440> Howitzer: ln -s name_of_real_file name_of_link
[14:45] <grub__> ikonia: ok
[14:45] <grub__> ikonia: done
[14:45] <ikonia> grub__: change it to type 82
[14:45] <carldani> bazhang: the iso is on my disk.
[14:45] <grub__> ikonia: 83?
[14:45] <ikonia> 83 sorry
[14:45] <ikonia> (working from memory)
[14:45] <arvind_khadri> Spidla, hmm
[14:45] <grub__> ikonia: ok done
[14:45] <Spidla> I hope that final release of Hardy will solve it
[14:45] <ikonia> grub__: now "p" and /dev/sda7 should have changed to "linux"
[14:45] <grub__> ikonia: now p shows /dev/sda5 as Linux
[14:45] <Spidla> I am not sure where to search for problem
[14:45] <ikonia> ok so now "w"
[14:46] <HSNews> how to run prog via shell, and do not bind programm to shell-session
[14:46] <grub__> ikonia: but not /dev/sda7
[14:46] <erUSUL> HSNews: nohup ?
[14:46] <ikonia> grub__: which one has changed ?
[14:46] <ikonia> HSNews: screen ?
[14:46] <grub__> ikonia: /dev/sda5
[14:46] <bazhang> carldani: the instructions on the site are insufficiently clear?
[14:46] <malin_> #ubuntu-fr
[14:46] <HSNews> I run: x11vnc by shell, and if I close putty, x11vnc died
[14:46] <zoobox> can I somehow verify that there is no packages that is not authenticated in a system? like running the ubuntu livecd and from it run something that checks the systemem on the harddisk if there is anything "bad" installed ?
[14:46] <Pici> malin_: /j #ubuntu-fr
[14:46] <dbrewer_rjr> i need help fast with a feisty production server. my file system is going to read-only because of i/o wait issues?
[14:46] <ikonia> grub__: that really shouldn't be the case
[14:46] <harveyd> having a problem getting vmware server to install
[14:46] <Spidla> maybe there is some daemon starting behind GDM which hangs the system ... i cant tell because i cant get to console
[14:46] <harveyd> http://pastebin.com/m6273368f
[14:46] <ikonia> grub__: change 5 back to HPFS then
[14:46] <grub__> ikonia: http://rafb.net/p/cMjKTh71.html
[14:47] <afflux> morning. linux-restricted-modules installs some .mod.o files (fglrx, nvidia, ath_hal...). How are they supposed to get loaded into the kernel? I've for example /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko on my system, but it has no package and I wonder where it comes from.
[14:47] <harveyd> I have headers / build-essential installed
[14:47] <malin_> ubuntu french pleez
[14:47] <arvind_khadri> spidla hey i think i found
[14:47] <ikonia> grub__: thats "t" "5" then "7" for type
[14:47] <Pici> malin_: type /join #ubuntu-fr
[14:47] <bazhang> !fr
[14:47] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:47] <erUSUL> dbrewer_rjr: ?? can you explain further ??
[14:47] <Spidla> i am listening
[14:47] <arvind_khadri> Spidla, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Revert_to_Xorg_driver
[14:47] <arvind_khadri> Spidla, try this
[14:47] <malin_> rejoint #ubuntu
[14:47] <malin_> pffffffff
[14:47] <grub__> ikonia: ok done
[14:47] <grub__> ikonia: now?
[14:47] <erUSUL> afflux: dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko
[14:48] <ikonia> grub__: "w"
[14:48] <ikonia> lets write the changes
[14:48] <unicum> what do i have to type to see exactly which kernel i'm using?
[14:48] <Pici> unicum: uname -a
[14:48] <bazhang> uname -r
[14:48] <afflux> erUSUL: that's what I did, it has no package (as I said above).
[14:48] <grub__> ikonia: ok, done. no errors
[14:48] <arvind_khadri> unicum, uname -a
[14:48] <carldani> bazhang: no, the installation instructions assume ubuntu has been booted from cd and I have verified that they will not work if ubuntu has not been booted from cd
[14:48] <Spidla> ok I will tray
[14:48] <dbrewer_rjr> erUSUL: it looks like a kernal problem when i put the error string into google. the cure is to update to gutsy. my question is, if the upgrade has probs, do I lose the server?
[14:48] <Spidla> try
[14:48] <ikonia> grub__: ok, so now lets change partition 7 to 83
[14:48] <unicum> thx
[14:48] <ikonia> grub__: "t" "7" "83"
[14:49] <grub__> ikonia: ok, now p also shows it as Linux
[14:49] <grub__> ikonia: should i w now?
[14:49] <lalala> trying to install ubuntu on an very old lap top now... when I turn it on it goes to a blue screen, and restarts. When I insert the ubunty, I dont have that problem, and I get to the installation steps... after step 1 it locks up. Are there any way of figuring if my HD has a physical error without running the extended memory test included with Ubuntu?
[14:49] <ikonia> grub__: p shows what as linux, 7 ?
[14:49] <zoobox> anyone knows anything about checking a installed ubuntu for evil software?
[14:49] <Chukchi_Husky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63316/
[14:49] <grub__> ikonia: yes, /dev/sda7 as Linux
[14:49] <carldani> bazhang: booting ubuntu from cd does some setup automatically which is not mentioned explicitly in any of the guides
[14:49] <bazhang> carldani: what system you running now--which distro
[14:49] <ikonia> zoobox: rootkits
[14:49] <ikonia> grub__: ok, now w
[14:49] <carldani> bazhang: opensuse 10.3
[14:49] <alx54> hi erUSUL ! my folder .kde/Autostart is empty, and there is no option "load on startup" in skype... now how do i prevent skype from loading on startup?
[14:49] <grub__> ikonia: done
[14:50] <erUSUL> dbrewer_rjr: you are in dapper ?? and upgrade if done properly should not be traumatic but if you are nervous you maybe can try to install only the kernel from the next version of ubuntu
[14:50] <ikonia> grub__: ok, so thats a start
[14:50] <ikonia> now, I /think/ that grub root (hd0,1) should work
[14:50] <afflux> ah, lrm-manager does the linking. Okay ,thanks!
[14:50] <grub__> ikonia: ikonia
[14:50] <zoobox> ikonia: yeah.. say someone have got a rootkit on their computer, how do I detect?
[14:50] <erUSUL> dbrewer_rjr: download the deb from packages.ubuntu.com and install it with sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[14:50] <ikonia> zoobox: chkrootkit
[14:50] <grub__> ikonia: root (hd0,6) and then setup (hd0) worked :D
[14:50] <mw-home> I have a fax modem.  Is there a good app that will let me fax a pdf file to a phone number?
[14:51] <grub__> ikonia: i'll restart and check now
[14:51] <murlidhar> grub_, :)
[14:51] <grub__> murlidhar: :D
[14:51] <grub__> brb rebooting
[14:51] <ikonia> grub_: did it really !!!!
[14:51] <ikonia> grub_: so (hd0,6) worked ?
[14:51] <erUSUL> mw-home: efax ??
[14:51] <grub_> ikonia: yes
[14:51] <erUSUL> !fax
[14:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fax - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:51] <ikonia> grub_: it shouldn't hafe
[14:51] <ikonia> have
[14:51] <zoobox> ikonia: aha
[14:51] <grub_> ikonia: :O ?
[14:51] <ikonia> grub_: but I'm not going to argue
[14:51] <grub_> lol
[14:51] <carldani> bazhang: by the way, the instructions will also not work if you have booted ubuntu, but not from the install cd
[14:51] <dbrewer_rjr> erUSUL: i am in feisty. the kernal cure is to update to gutsy, but posts at the bottom of the artical say that sometimes a file known as bzip2 is not in the library and stops the upgrade. will the server roll back? it is currently hosting websites.
[14:51] <grub_> ikonia: ok, lets see if this works :P
[14:51] <HSNews> how to terminate X server? I run apache, mysql, memcached, and I want to close X session
[14:52] <HSNews> for econom memory
[14:52] <murlidhar> best of luck grub_
[14:52] <smallfry> im trying to connect to my wireless router but its not letting me. i went to the official website and played around and ended up using the command sudo ifup eth1 in a terminal, it told me ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1, any one know what to do?
[14:52] <Lacrymology> excuse me, my friend here's just reinstalled his ubuntu, and 1) his audio is not working, and 2) his video's not going over 1024x768, can someone help us up, please?
[14:52] <antubuntu> hello everyone! how can i play dvd in my ubuntu gutsy?
[14:52] <genii> !info efax-gtk
[14:52] <ubotu> efax-gtk (source: efax-gtk): front end in GTK+ for the efax program. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.14-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 638 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[14:52] <murlidhar> antubuntu, yes
[14:53] <murlidhar> antubuntu, if u have dvd ofcourse
[14:53] <erUSUL> dbrewer_rjr: as i said you may want to try first to install the gutsy kernel deb file on your feisty install...
[14:53] <murlidhar> antubuntu, if u have dvd drive ofcourse
[14:53] <antubuntu> i have dvd drive but it wont
[14:53] <dbrewer_rjr> erUSUL: do you have a sudo for that?
[14:53] <antubuntu> i juz bought a new sata dvd rw
[14:53] <grub_> murlidhar, ikonia, Now ubuntu boots up fine. As i didnt have windows in the menu.lst that doesn't show up. I don't see a grub menu. Ubuntu just boots up fine
[14:53] <Lamego> dbrewer_rjr, do not try to install a gutsy kernel package on feisty !
[14:53] <x0x> hello I want to disable ProFTPd from previous installation of Xampp should I look for /etc/init.d/lampp ?
[14:53] <grub_> so should i do a update-grub now?
[14:54] <ikonia> antubuntu I'm quite chocked by that
[14:54] <ikonia> oops
[14:54] <erUSUL> dbrewer_rjr: download the deb from packages.ubuntu.com and install it with "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[14:54] <ikonia> grub_: I'm shocked by that
[14:54] <murlidhar> grub_, use chainloaded
[14:54] <Lamego> erUSUL, that is something you should not recommend !
[14:54] <ikonia> grub_:  I did not expect that to work
[14:54] <grub_> ikonia: why so?
[14:54] <ikonia> grub_: grub is normally sequential
[14:54] <antubuntu> and i cant play a dvd movie with it
[14:54] <grub_> ikonia: my linux partition is /dev/sda7 right?
[14:54] <erUSUL> Lamego: dbrewer_rjr i'm sure dbrewer_rjr is open to other recomendations
[14:54] <bazhang> carldani: hmm; I had success with the instructions. what went wrong for you? at any rate the usb option is clearly out for you as it requires a boot regardless of the linux distro including suse
[14:54] <dbrewer_rjr> sudo aptitude install update-manager-core?
[14:54] <Pici> !dvd > antubuntu (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:54] <ikonia> grub_: I have seen senario's where removing partitions has caused the situation your in but as a general rule of thumb I didn't expect that to work
[14:55] <murlidhar> antubuntu, do u have vlc media player installed?
[14:55] <smallfry> im trying to connect to my wireless router but its not letting me. i went to the official website and played around and ended up using the command sudo ifup eth1 in a terminal, it told me ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1, any one know what to do?
[14:55] <antubuntu> yes
[14:55] <antubuntu> but still dont play
[14:55] <antubuntu> what seems to be the problem?
[14:55] <bazhang> smallfry: what card and what chipset
[14:55] <Lamego> erUSUL, regardless of other recomendations being available or not, installing kernel packages from a different distro version is a *DO NOT*
[14:55] <dbrewer_rjr> Lamego: sudo aptitude install update-manager-core
[14:55] <bazzawill>  I am trying to get firefox to use the tilt function on my mousewheel to go back do horizontal scroll instead of back and forward (well actually just back it doesn't do forward
[14:55] <murlidhar> antubuntu, or any other media player
[14:55] <bazzawill>  I have seen some guides and as far as I can tell as the tilt function is working I have skipped any xorg hacking
[14:55] <bazzawill>  and firefox appears to be setup correctly in about:config
[14:55] <grub_> so it should be hd0,6, no?
[14:56] <dbrewer_rjr> Lamego: is that do-able?
[14:56] <smallfry> bazhang: its an airlink 101 card, but i dont know the chipset
[14:56] <antubuntu> all media players
[14:56] <antubuntu> i have gxine
[14:56] <ikonia> grub_: I would have expected hd0,1 or hd0,2
[14:56] <Chukchi_Husky> I finally copied out the lspci http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63316/
[14:56] <antubuntu> mplayer
[14:56] <ikonia> grub_: but I'm not going to dispute it
[14:56] <scu77> when i type sudp apt-get update, what kind of file would change?
[14:56] <bazhang> smallfry: are you at the computer now and can type in the terminal?
[14:56] <grub_> ikonia: as 2 is the extended partition?
[14:56] <antubuntu> totem all wont work
[14:56] <Lamego> dbrewer_rjr, what are you tring to achieve ?
[14:56] <grub_> ikonia: i would like to know why you thought so though. want to learn :)
[14:56] <carldani> bazhang: I'll try to figure out a way combining the various instructions, if I'm successful, I'll tell you (including what needs to be considered if you don't want to boot from the cd)
[14:56] <murlidhar> antubuntu, try vlc
[14:56] <smallfry> bazhang: my main pc is in the other room but i could run back and forth
[14:57] <bazhang> carldani: there are other options but they do not involve a usb stick
[14:57] <antubuntu> vlc also not working
[14:57] <erUSUL> Lamego: been using custom kernel.orgs kernels (currently 2.6.25-rc9 on gutsy) in ubuntu since i installed it (warty beta) a custom kernel is the safest and easier to revert upgrade one can imagine on a linux machine (it is very self contained). And yes i know about !worksforme ;)
[14:57] <antubuntu> do u think its my sata dvd writer?
[14:57] <antubuntu> its a sata samsung dvdrw
[14:57] <ikonia> grub_: because grub is noramlly sequential, it doesn't care if your partition is called /dev/sdz, the fact that it's the 3rd partition means it should be (hdX,2)
[14:58] <dbrewer_rjr> Lamego: my prod box is going into read-only on an i/o wait error, causing it to have major problems. i googled the error message, shows it to be a kernal bug. the recommended fix is to upgrade from feisty to gutsy.
[14:58] <grub_> ikonia: hmm
[14:58] <murlidhar> antubuntu, do u have dvd codecs installed?
[14:58] <bazhang> smallfry: no need to run ;]  just type in lspci (if its pci internal) or lsusb if it is usb dongle (then note down that one line should be something like broadcomm 43xx or something
[14:58] <dbrewer_rjr> Lamego: this is an emergency. my next call is to canonical
[14:58] <antubuntu> i read the dvd codecs and i think i installed it all
[14:58] <Lamego> erUSUL, one thing is using a stock kernel, another thing is using a binary kernel package
[14:59] <scu77> can't i backup apt-get update ?
[14:59] <brobostigon> hey everyone
[14:59] <antubuntu> murlidhar: when my system detects the cdrw+ dvdrw my dvdrod ejects on and off
[14:59] <murlidhar> antubuntu, it is better if u install ubuntu-restricted extras
[14:59] <scu77> when i can't connect internet
[14:59] <Lamego> dbrewer_rjr, you should perform a distro upgrade
[15:00] <dbrewer_rjr> Lamego: sudo aptitude install update-manager-core?
[15:00] <antubuntu> murlidhar: ubuntu-restricted extras? where can i get that?
[15:00] <nathan_> how do you switch from gnash to flash-player-nonfree?
[15:00] <scu77> not use dvd backup...
[15:00] <murlidhar> antubuntu,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:00] <smallfry> bazhang: ok it came up with a bunch of stuff,
[15:00] <erUSUL> Lamego: dbrewer_rjr said a dist-upgrae made him nervous as it is a production machine and imnsho a dist-upgrade is far more dangerous for a production server than installing a linux-image-*.deb from gutsy in feisty
[15:00] <antubuntu> ok ill try it..
[15:01] <murlidhar> antubuntu, it basically covers java flash, dvdd
[15:01] <annimar> I have a question concerning 8.04 beta
[15:01] <annimar> If I install the beta now
[15:01] <erUSUL> !hardy | annimar
[15:01] <ubotu> annimar: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:01] <murlidhar> annimar, #ubuntu+1
[15:01] <Spidla> well , I have reconfigured xorg-xserver and reinstalled that libgl-mesa thing .. my X server started in low resolution mode ... than I configured it to work with fglrx just to keep my Compiz wokring... everything works fine now ... we will see how long will it work ... thanks anyway
[15:01] <GentooUser> Bom dia
[15:02] <smallfry> bazhang: what do i do next?
[15:02] <cellofellow> anybody use Screenlets?
[15:02] <antubuntu> murlihdar: its all updated
[15:02] <GentooUser> have one chanel, em brazilian portuguese?
[15:02] <dbrewer_rjr> well?
[15:02] <erUSUL> !br | GentooUser
[15:02] <ubotu> GentooUser: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[15:02] <murlidhar> antubuntu, hmm
[15:02] <GentooUser> Thaks
[15:02] <antubuntu> murlidhar: its all updated
[15:03] <dbrewer_rjr> Lamego: any comments?
[15:03] <antubuntu> murlidhar: can i pm u?
[15:03] <murlidhar> antubuntu, yes but i am afraid i can't help u
[15:03] <Lamego> sorry, was away
[15:03] <aliosha> how do I make ./configure find glib 2.17, not 2.14?
[15:04] <dbrewer_rjr> Lamego: can you scroll up to last from erUSUL?
[15:04] <erUSUL> dbrewer_rjr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-f2435a45758bb5836f8e5b87e90045463f8c6ec7 for doing the dist-upgrade
[15:04] <Spidla> oh noo .. problems are back .. third reboot and my GDM is hanged again
[15:05] <murlidhar> antubuntu, ask to question again so that somebody else could try to help u
[15:05] <legend2440> antubuntu: when you put dvd in does icon pop up on desktop?
[15:05] <antubuntu> murlidhar: none
[15:05] <Lamego> erUSUL, a dist-upgrade is a tested and recommended procedure, unlike using a kernel package from another release, which may render the system unbootable, at least using that particular kernel
[15:06] <Lamego> I agree that there are other generic problems that may arise from a dist-upgrade, but those should be easily fixed
[15:06] <dbrewer_rjr> erUSUL: so back to my original question: posts at the end of articals with those commands say that the upgrade might fail due to lib missing bzip2 file. do i lose the ability to reboot to a working server?
[15:06] <erUSUL> Lamego: fair enough we can agree we disagree i already pointed dbrewer_rjr to the recomended and aproved procedure
[15:06] <antubuntu> murlidhar: what is the problem? my dvd writer is brand new
[15:06] <Lamego> dbrewer_rjr, I would try a stock kernel install in the first place
[15:06] <legend2440> antubuntu: when you put dvd in does icon pop up on desktop?
[15:06] <erUSUL> dbrewer_rjr: can you give me the url of the article?
[15:06] <antubuntu> murlidhar: nothing pops up
[15:07] <dbrewer_rjr> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/20/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-704-to-ubuntu-710-on-ubuntu-server/
[15:07] <murlidhar> antubuntu, legend2440 is asking you not me
[15:07] <aliosha> anybody with help for ./configure?
[15:07] <erUSUL> dbrewer_rjr: if there was errors on some mirrors due to missing files they should be corrected now...
[15:07] <legend2440> antubuntu: in fstab did you mount it to /media or /mnt?
[15:07] <Knight488> if I install the 8.04 beta, will the updater automaticly give me the official 8.04 release when it comes out?
[15:07] <antubuntu> oh sorry
[15:07] <dbrewer_rjr> erUSUL: that is just what i want to hear!!!   :)
[15:08] <antubuntu> legend2440: none pops up
[15:08] <legend2440> antubuntu: in fstab did you mount it to /media or /mnt?
[15:08] <murlidhar> legend2440, shouldn't it auto mount
[15:08] <antubuntu> legend2440: i mounted it through right click
[15:08] <cellofellow> anybody have trouble with Screenlets autostarting applets I don't have set to start, and not starting ones I do?
[15:08] <dbrewer_rjr> my a** is on the line. i recommended ubuntu, and configured the server, which is now crashing. every few days
[15:08] <bo-dick> hi
[15:09] <orderfeuer> Tach zusammen...
[15:09] <bo-dick> how do i display all installed packages in synaptic and sort them by date?
[15:09] <methods> how do i get rid of a user in the user drop down ?
[15:09] <farmer_> I'm having printing issues with gutsy. first printing from a user account would only happen if i user-switched into an admin account. - that's got better but i'm finding it's a good 2-3 minutes before it starts printing now. Am printing from pdf (from evince) on an hp laser 1018. Anyone else have issues with this???
[15:09] <legend2440> antubuntu: it may help to have an entry in fstab for the dvd
[15:09] <antubuntu> legend2440: and one thing when my system detects it as a dvdrw / cdrw my dvd rom ejects on and off..
[15:10] <antubuntu> legend2440: but when it was detected as cdrom1 it was ok
[15:10] <murlidhar> bo-dick, press the status radio button in  synaptic
[15:11] <antubuntu> legend2440: what do u think is the problem is it bcoz it was a Sata drive..?
[15:11] <murlidhar> bo-dick, as far as date is concerned i am not aware of that
[15:11] <legend2440> antubuntu: it should still work
[15:12] <antubuntu> legend2440: i see
[15:12] <bo-dick> murlidhar: status radio button...
[15:12] <bo-dick> murlidhar: ok
[15:12] <murlidhar> bo-dick, did u find the button?
[15:12] <antubuntu> legend2440: i can burn dvd and write cd but playing movie i cant
[15:12] <bazhang> smallfry you still there?
[15:13] <bo-dick> murlidhar: yeah, in my version it looks like a regular pushbutton
[15:13] <murlidhar> bo-dick, whatever
[15:14] <murlidhar> bo-dick, now on top select installed packages or something
[15:14] <mab> hi - is there some one who has ever created an initrd file with a whole ubuntu in it?
[15:14] <erUSUL> mab: o_O!!!
[15:14] <mab> lol
[15:14] <murlidhar> grub, so everything is sorted out?
[15:15] <grub> murlidhar: yep, :)
[15:15] <tanoli>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY snowfox
[15:15] <grub> murlidhar: thanks for your help
[15:15] <mab> my problem is: i dont want PXE to grep everything from NFS, i want to have everything in the ramdisk
[15:15] <bo-dick> murlidhar: now it's only the date issue
[15:15] <mab> some ideas?
[15:15] <grub> ikonia: thank you for your help too!!!
[15:15] <erUSUL> tanoli: change your password now
[15:15] <neohaven> Has anyone managed to forward gnome through an X tunnel?
[15:15] <antubuntu> legend2440: ok just this one can i format my ipod here in ubuntu?
[15:16] <ikonia> grub: welcome, you had a random issue
[15:16] <murlidhar> bo-dick, afaik there isn't any option
[15:16] <grub> ikonia: i wonder what could have caused this though
[15:16] <murlidhar> bo-dick, why do u need that anyway
[15:16] <erUSUL> mab: what you ask is imposible afaik
[15:16] <tanoli> hello
[15:16] <bo-dick> murlidhar: some stuff was installed through the mozilla browser
[15:16] <amenado> neohaven-> yes, you log in via ssh with    ssh -C -X -l username ipaddremote;  then  gnome-session &
[15:17] <bo-dick> murlidhar: would be simple to identify them by checking for freshness
[15:17] <openuse1> hi, does anybody know why can't i use the ''one'' key from the numeric keyboard part?
[15:17] <ikonia> grub: the only senario I've seen like it is when a partition or two is deleted and the disk doesn't clean up
[15:17] <murlidhar> bo-dick, addons?
[15:17] <ikonia> openuse1: what version of ubuntu ?
[15:17] <neohaven> amenado: that doesn't seem to work with X11.app on OS X
[15:17] <mab> erUSUL realy? a friend told me that i can "copy" a ubuntu system into an initrd file to boot from it
[15:17] <mab> isnt that possible?
[15:17] <bo-dick> murlidhar: yup
[15:17] <grub> ikonia: hmm
[15:17] <openuse1> ikonia: gutsy
[15:17] <ikonia> !numlock > openuse1
[15:17] <bazhang> openuse1: how did you create your nick then?
[15:17] <ikonia> openuse1: check out that link
[15:17] <erUSUL> mab: well afaik is as far as i know youe friend may know better than i
[15:17] <murlidhar> bo-dick, then u can uninstall them if u want from the firefox itself
[15:18] <amenado> neohaven-> what do you mean? which is the os x -- the connecting client?
[15:18] <neohaven> amenado: standard X applications work properly, but the Gnome desktop messes it up something awful.
[15:18] <mab> hmm
[15:18] <mab> well
[15:18] <neohaven> i'm connecting to a ubuntu box.
[15:18] <neohaven> with a MacBook
[15:18] <neohaven> Ubuntu has Gnome on it
[15:18] <legend2440> antubuntu: not sure. i don't have an ipod
[15:18] <openuse1> bazhang: that's the funniest part, my nickname changed without my consent
[15:18] <LSD|Ninja> openuse1: that's not unusual
[15:19] <amenado> neohaven->  i dont know, maybe your resolutions and such are not matching
[15:19] <neohaven> so, what I want to do is use ssh -X to forward gnome-session.
[15:19] <bazhang> antubuntu: you can sync your ipod yes, though you need the latest libgpod deb or wait 9 days for next release
[15:19] <neohaven> actually gnome-session gives off error messages
[15:19] <LSD|Ninja> neohaven: I never got that to work right myself. But then, I never really tried
[15:19] <openuse1> ikonia: wait, i can't type all the numbers unless the one: 234567890
[15:19] <Howbag> Hey guys! Anyone know how I can know what /dev/XXX is for my external drive? I can only see it as a "300gb disk drive" :/
[15:19] <mab> ive copied / from a ubuntu box into an initrd file.. i can still boot from it over PXE but everytime it hangs with the following error: mouting /dev/ram0 to /root unknown volume type
[15:19] <mab> any idea?
[15:20] <brobostigon> Howbag: dmesg
[15:20] <murlidhar> bo-dick, anyways additional addons of firefox aren't added to synaptic
[15:20] <amenado> neohaven-> yes, you log in via ssh with    ssh -C -X -l username ipaddremote;  then  gnome-session &
[15:20] <bo-dick> murlidhar: oh
[15:20] <neohaven> why -C and -l?
[15:20] <MarcC-backroom> so I right-clicked a bunch of music files and opened them with Rhythmbox...now I have hundreds of little tray icons and a locked up system :-/
[15:20] <clutsy-ribbon> could anyone give me a hand installing drivers for my TV card
[15:21] <amenado> Howbag-> look in  /dev/disk  subdirectories
[15:21] <LSD|Ninja> neohaven: -l changes the username that gets sent to the server
[15:21] <LSD|Ninja> neohaven: as for -C, I have nfi
[15:21] <Howbag> amenado, there are so many files :p
[15:21] <neohaven> I don't need -l then
[15:21] <neohaven> and nfi?
[15:21] <amenado> Howbag and you want me to read it for you? or you can handle it yourself?
[15:21] <brobostigon> Howbag: look at dmesg, that will tell you. run dmesg in a tereminal
[15:21] <theRealballchalk> hello i need pointers to where i can find help for Totem movie player please
[15:21] <bazhang> not clear idea
[15:22] <amenado> neohaven-> man ssh please
[15:22] <Howbag> amenado, that would be nice :)
[15:22] <Howbag> brobostigon,  yeah., i got it, thank you :)
[15:22] <LSD|Ninja> neohaven: "no fscking idea" :P
[15:22] <murlidhar> bo-dick, the best option would be to go to firefox history and add a column by date and then check
[15:23] <neohaven> http://pastebin.com/d4f2e93ee
[15:23] <bazhang> theRealballchalk: what is the issue please
[15:23] <neohaven> the highlighted lines seem to be the problem.
[15:23] <Oliver_A> Right, I am using Ubuntu 6.02 and I installing BUM (boot device manager) and now Ubuntu won't load.  Now I am in a Live-CD, shall I re-install Ubuntu?
[15:24] <AliRezaTaleghani> hello,  how can i change re resolution of Login Windows,cos i can't see the session part of login window1
[15:24] <bazhang> MarcC-backroom: better to import them into the rhythmbox or have it scan a folder or folders than the method you used
[15:24] <mab> erUSUL: ive copied / from a ubuntu box into an initrd file.. i can still boot from it over PXE but everytime it hangs with the following error: mouting /dev/ram0 to /root unknown volume type any idea?
[15:25] <bazhang> Oliver_A: I am guessing you mean 6.06; why not a more recent version?
[15:25] <erUSUL> mab: how did you copied it?
[15:25] <Oliver_A> I am running on a PPC
[15:25] <neohaven> also, amenado i'm not asking what they do. i'm asking why I would be using -C...
[15:25] <neohaven> i'm over GB ethernet to that computer...
[15:26] <erUSUL> mab: afaik a initrams is a cpio archive...
[15:26] <bazhang> Oliver_A: there are community supported versions of gutsy for the ppc iirc
[15:26] <Oliver_A> Will worry about upgrading, later, the problem is onw :P
[15:27] <Oliver_A> bazhang:Shall I reinstall?
[15:27] <mab> erUSUL with cp
[15:27] <mab> and then i recreated the the initrd file with cpio
[15:28] <bazhang> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.10/release/ here they are Oliver_A if you want to use 6.06 you can though
[15:28] <magneten> are there any good tutorials on how to work with a docking station? To enable my 2 external monitors I had to run "nvidia-settings", and now desktop effects  + window decorations in gnome are missing..
[15:28] <nerdzyboy> Could anyone tell me how to activate hardware acceleration for an intel X3100 card?
[15:29] <Chukchi_Husky> Is there anything else I can do?
[15:29] <FR34K> !wine
[15:29] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[15:29] <erUSUL> mab: i dunno what may be wrong...
[15:30] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: you found the lspci listing for that card?
[15:30] <Chukchi_Husky> Yes.
[15:31] <AliRezaTaleghani> can't anybody help me??
[15:31] <AliRezaTaleghani> how can i change re resolution of Login Windows,cos i can't see the session part of login window1
[15:31] <Chukchi_Husky> The paste website isn't working.
[15:32] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: just telling me the one line will be sufficient (the one for that card)
[15:32] <Chukchi_Husky> There isn't one.
[15:32] <v0lksman> anyone have a link for help with policykit?  I did an upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 but all the policies are set to NO and I can't unlock anything (or change policies in policykit itself)...
[15:32] <Chaotic_Descent> When I was installing Ubuntu, it wouldn't let me manually create large partitions. Did it require a patch? I wanted a ~400 GB partition separate from the OS.
[15:32] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please v0lksman
[15:33] <v0lksman> oops
[15:33] <Stroganoff> Chaotic_Descent: try the alternate iso
[15:33] <v0lksman> thanks
[15:34] <Chaotic_Descent> what alternative iso? now that it's installed and patched, can't I... is the only partition utility on the CD?  :S
[15:34] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: well you cannot connect that box to the net (no ethernet?) and there is no listing for the card; not sure what to tell you with such minimal info really
[15:34] <brobostigon> !alternate | Chaotic_Descent
[15:34] <ubotu> Chaotic_Descent: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[15:34] <Chukchi_Husky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63316/
[15:35] <Chukchi_Husky> I got the card so I could connect it to the internet.
[15:35] <bazhang> http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.10/ here Chaotic_Descent
[15:35] <Chaotic_Descent> I don't think I have any blank CDs. I just borrowed this one from my friend.
[15:36] <FR34K> !beryl
[15:37] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[15:37] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: so problem solved?
[15:37] <Chukchi_Husky> No.
[15:37] <FR34K> !compiz
[15:37] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[15:37] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: please outline your issue with some clarity then
[15:38] <rombolo> sziasztok
[15:38] <Chaotic_Descent> I can't modify partitions off my HD instead of off a boot CD??
[15:38] <bazhang> polish rombolo?
[15:38] <brobostigon> Chaotic_Descent: you cant edit partition when they are mounted
[15:38] <rombolo> hungary?
[15:39] <bazhang> !hr
[15:39] <ubotu> Odgovarajuci kanal za Hrvatski jezik je #ubuntu-hr, molimo Vas da se pridruzite tom kanalu ukoliko trebate pomoc za Ubuntu, hvala.  Croatian language support in #ubuntu-hr
[15:39] <Shadow420> Chaotic_Descent or use gparted
[15:39] <rombolo> not im hungary
[15:39] <Chukchi_Husky> There's another computer with Ubuntu on it that I want to connect to the internet, so I got a network card for it.  I added in the card but it can't detect the card.
[15:39] <zeco> it's a shame that Beryl was discontinued. Now the developement seems stalled again (Wii-mote support, whoopdidoo) and there's no separate repo for compiz-fusion, just the git-snapshot from october 2007
[15:39] <Chaotic_Descent> Actually I haven't created the partition.
[15:39] <Chaotic_Descent> gparted? ok, thanks. I'll look into that.
[15:40] <bazhang> rombolo: hungary? /j #ubuntu-hr
[15:40] <rombolo> bazhang: yes!
[15:41] <rombolo> not horvatska!
[15:41] <bazhang> Chukchi_Husky: but the pastebin you did had not a complete listing I think--too few devices by far--the best way to troubleshoot that machine is connect an ethernet cable to it and see what can be done
[15:41] <rombolo> not croatian
[15:41] <Lamego> !ies4linux
[15:41] <ubotu> ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[15:41] <Shadow420> !hungary
[15:41] <ubotu> Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál
[15:41] <Shadow420> !hungary
[15:41] <Chukchi_Husky> I did connect an ethernet cable to it.
[15:42] <rombolo> ubutu: thanks!
[15:42] <destin> hi there
[15:42] <Ayabara> I need to play some drm'ed files. Will windows media player (or another drm-capable player) work in wine?
[15:42] <rombolo> bye
[15:42] <bazhang> hr is croatian? that is weird
[15:42] <rombolo> yes hr is croatian
[15:42] <bazhang> thanks rombolo ;]
[15:42] <brobostigon> Ayabara: what format are they??
[15:43] <destin> since 8.04 is coming up, i was wondering if there will be support for my crappy raid solution (intel "hardware" raid controller)
[15:43] <Ayabara> brobostigon, wmv
[15:43] <brobostigon> Ayabara: try vlc
[15:43] <mrbryan> Can anyone tell me how I can manually add a port or range to be forwarded to my LAN IP via UPNP on a router?   I dont' have access to the router backend to do it without upnp.  I'm able to do it, for instance, with one port using ktorrent's upnp plugin, but there must be a more elegant way to add sshd for instance
[15:43] <destin> it's just a softraid actually
[15:43] <Lamego> !hardy | destin
[15:43] <ubotu> destin: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:43] <destin> ah okay
[15:44] <destin> thx
[15:44] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto destin
[15:44] <bazhang> oops
[15:44] <destin> bazhang, i tried that
[15:44] <destin> somehow didn't work
[15:44] <Ayabara> brobostigon, thanks, but that don't work either
[15:44] <bazhang> forgot today is not the 24th ;[
[15:45] <Chaotic_Descent> ......... what?? why is Gparted reporting my main partition is 75 GB?? I told it to make it 20 GB with a 10 GB swap partition!
[15:45] <brobostigon> Ayabara: well vlc should play wmv, what does it do when you try and play a wmv??
[15:45] <Chaotic_Descent> oh. wrong drive. -_-; my mistake.
[15:45] <bazhang> hehe
[15:46] <Ayabara> brobostigon, it plays wmv, but I suspect it doesn't like DRM-protected files
[15:46] <adamb> How do I get list of installed packages with aptitude?
[15:46] <brobostigon> Ayabara: you didnt answer my question???
[15:47] <bazhang> dpkg -l adamb
[15:47] <legend2440> Chukchi_Husky: this page may help http://www.computing.net/answers/linux/netgear-fa311-amp-knoppix-cd/17533.html
[15:47] <Ayabara> brobostigon, I thought I did?
[15:47] <Ayabara> brobostigon, my vlc plays wmv files, but not if they are drm-protected
[15:48] <brobostigon> Ayabara: when you tell vlc to play that wmv , what happens, what does vlc do??
[15:48] <vix85> hi... how is the ftp client working ? i want to download a directory containing subdirectorys and files, should I use get, or mget ? i've been trying both with no success.
[15:49] <Shadow420> vix85 try wget
[15:49] <elmer> vix85, yea, use WGET -R
[15:50] <Lamego> or ncftp, or lftp
[15:50] <vix85> Shadow420, elmer : can i use wget in ftp mode ?
[15:50] <Ayabara> brobostigon, the progress slider just goes from start to end in a couple of seconds, but vlc shouldn't be able to play it, since it is drm-protected. that's why I'm looking for a windows player to use with wine
[15:51] <Lamego> vix85, use ncftp, get -R dir
[15:51] <Shadow420> vix85 take Lamego's advice
[15:52] <Chukchi_Husky> Trying modprobe natsmei comes up with a message saying "FATAL: Error inserting natsemi (/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/drivers//net/natsemi.ko) Operation not permitted"/
[15:52] <jabba> hello, how do i tell sed to regognize all 2-digit-numbers in a string?
[15:52] <unop_> jabba, and do what with those 2 digits strings tho? because it already recognizes them :)
[15:52] <Shadow420> Chukchi_Husky use sudo modprobe natsmei
[15:53] <jabba> unop_: replace them wt'ith an empty string
[15:53] <jabba> e.g. delete them
[15:53] <brobostigon> Ayabara: you may need win32codecs??
[15:53] <Chukchi_Husky> Nothing happened.
[15:54] <Shadow420> Chukchi_Husky hmm
[15:54] <unop_> jabba, something like this?  echo "ab23cd45ef67" | sed -r 's/[0-9][0-9]//g'
[15:54] <jabba> yeah thanks just tried that too :)
[15:54] <Chukchi_Husky> The disc did come with Linux drivers but I don't know how to use them.
[15:55] <nyigu> I'm using "lp -o sides=two-sided-short-edge" but my HP printer is still doing long-edge duplexing.  I can successfully switch it with the CUPS admin web pages...
[15:55] <Gatestone_> How can I enable picture on laptop LCD and external video simultaneously? (Thinkpad z60m)
[15:55] <dem0nk1d> issue with re-partition a ext3 Primary partition
[15:55] <dem0nk1d> i can't resize the mofo.  why is tthis
[15:55] <jabba> unop_ and how would you tell it to replace "_" if it occurs more than 1 time in a line?
[15:55] <dem0nk1d> using partition magic 8.05
[15:55] <bazhang> Gatestone_: one big picture or two seperate desktops
[15:55] <unop_> jabba, are the _'s next to each other on the line ?
[15:55] <MasterShrek> dem0nk1d, why not us gparted? its included with the ubuntu livecd
[15:56]  * iclebyte loves Linux
[15:56] <Gatestone_> one picture at the projector and lcd
[15:56] <MasterShrek> use**
[15:56] <sipior> dem0nk1d: you've booted off the partition magic CD?
[15:56] <Shadow420> dem0nk1d and it's simple to use and it's free
[15:56] <Gatestone_> bazhang, same picture at the projector and lcd
[15:56] <MindSpark> hi, does anyone know what the package for the manpages of libmysqlclient-dev is ?
[15:56] <superactive> What would one do to learn as much of linux as possible so i can switch to Slackware?
[15:56] <dolop> anyone have experience in cclfox?
[15:56] <dem0nk1d> yes i booted a bootable cd with PM on it
[15:56] <jeffMASTERflex> superactive: use slackware
[15:56] <MasterShrek> superactive, the best way to learn slackware is to get it, and read the slackbook (but this is offtopic for this channel)
[15:56] <sdakak> I am running apache on ubuntu. Everything works from the localhost. But if I connect via LAN to my servers internal ip then nothing comes up.
[15:57] <jabba> unop_ yes
[15:57] <sipior> dem0nk1d: and you get no error trying to resize the partition?
[15:57] <dem0nk1d> will not let me re-size the drive or ext3
[15:57] <superactive> Jeff, do you run slackware?
[15:57] <dem0nk1d> it's grayed out
[15:57] <bazhang> Gatestone_: so three outputs? you have me confused a bit
[15:57] <unop_> jabba, same principle then.  's/__//g'
[15:57] <dem0nk1d> i used gtparted and the same thing
[15:57] <superactive> btw is this prohibited to talk about in this channel?
[15:57] <jeffMASTERflex> superactive: offtopic in this channel
[15:57] <sdakak> How do I make my apache server visible to my lan machines please?
[15:58] <Gatestone_> no, projectr = vga out = external azhang
[15:58] <jeffMASTERflex> superactive: this channel is only for support for ubuntu
[15:58] <jarle_> I have moved my ubuntu system to a new machine with / on a RAID 5, seems like grub/initramfs does not support RAID, I get "ALERT! /dev/md2 does not exist" Any help?
[15:58] <unop_> superactive, you can continue the discussion about slackware in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:58] <Gatestone_> bazhang, on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ThinkpadZ60m it is called mirroring, and irt is untested
[15:58] <Shadow420> superactive try #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:58] <jarle_> Not sure if it is connected to this bug or not: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/57972
[15:59] <jabba> unop_ that would recognice only two dashes
[15:59] <igh> sdakak: maybe try #apache
[15:59] <jabba> what if more?
[15:59] <bazhang> Gatestone_: they do not work with the monitor preferences? I just connect mine to my lcd tv and it works (this is next release though)
[15:59] <legend2440> Chukchi_Husky: the command is sudo modprobe natsemi
[15:59] <Chukchi_Husky> I tried that.
[15:59] <Chukchi_Husky> Nothing happened.
[15:59] <Filled-Void> Is removing the file integrity check fromy our fstab a bad idea ? Cause withotu it it just takes 50 seconds for me to boot up rather than the four minutes :x
[15:59] <sipior> dem0nk1d: you know, i've run into this problem myself, many years back, and i'm damned if i can remember how i resolved it.  i seem to recall a problem with ext3 metadata that prevented the partition from being manipulated. the partitions were made with a modern ubuntu install?
[15:59] <legend2440> Chukchi_Husky: you tried it with 'sudo'?
[16:00] <Chukchi_Husky> Yes.
[16:00] <unop_> jabba, ahh more than once 's/__*//g'
[16:00] <jarle_> so how can I make sure that initramfs will include RAID support?
[16:00] <legend2440> Chukchi_Husky: what is the linux driver that came with it ? is it a .bin file or what?
[16:01] <Gatestone_> bazhang, on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ThinkpadZ60m it is called mirroring, and irt is untested
[16:01] <Gatestone_> Sorry, I said that already, bazhang
[16:01] <bucko> Hello, guys; who knows where I can go for help with my weird linuxwacom problems?
[16:01] <Gatestone_> bazhang, F7 cycles, but the picture just jumps from ecternaöl to internal, bever at the same time in both
[16:01] <bazhang> Gatestone_: yes I saw; I have a thinkpad and it works with lcd out o' the box (version #+1 though)
[16:02] <bucko> (I have three monitors numbered from right to left, and the tablet when mapped to all three screens assumes the reverse order, meaning far left is left of right screen and far right is right of left.)
[16:02] <Gatestone_> So it is not about that, but I need the laptoo picture and the priojector on at thye same trumne
[16:02] <Gatestone_> time
[16:03] <Chukchi_Husky> There are three files.  One is fa311v2 and is a C file, one is simply called "Makefile" and there is a readme.  I did read the readme.
[16:03] <dem0nk1d> sip: yes ubuntu install, fully installed on a 30+ gig drive
[16:03] <dem0nk1d> and now i need to make it a dual boot system, because i need to run one windows application.
[16:03] <dem0nk1d> lol!  sucs.
[16:03] <mmm4m5m> mjbrooks: hi :), do you remember my fstab file... looks like swap partition have #  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63265/
[16:03] <sipior> dem0nk1d: perhaps consider running vmware or the like?
[16:04] <AudioSenseCD> dem0nk1d: try wine
[16:04] <sipior> dem0nk1d: easier than munging partitions for one application :-)
[16:04] <jeffMASTERflex> dem0nk1d: if you only need ONE application, wine or a virtual machine might be a better option than dualboot
[16:04] <sipior> you know, i don't think i've ever had a single app work properly in wine, ever.
[16:04] <bjwebb> does ubunt uahve a problem reading "unifinished" dvd rw media?
[16:04] <sipior> i've been trying for years, and they never seem to work quite right...
[16:05] <AudioSenseCD> sipior: it did work for me
 i have, putty works, although a bit pointless as there are other ssh clients for linux
[16:05] <sipior> AudioSenseCD: that's nice
[16:06] <titan> can anyone guide through geting smaba to work please
[16:06] <bazhang> Gatestone_: are you planning on upgrading in a few days (9) time?
 for the amount of people in this channel theres not much chat
[16:06] <AudioSenseCD> sipior: altough i'm not a linux user but it seems got lucky
[16:06] <TWP-SirStaal> what is the code to upgrade firefox?
[16:06] <bazhang> GAMESERVER: this is a support channel not a chat channel
[16:06] <boubbin> if mythbuntu official ubuntu variant ?
[16:06] <Sake> So I'm trying to install ubuntu 7.10 server on VMWare and I can't seem to get the network working. Anybody ever set this up?
[16:07] <bazhang> Sake:  what is the host os
[16:07] <Flannel> boubbin: No
[16:07] <bazhang> boubbin: you can ask more in #ubuntu-mythtv though ;]
[16:08] <Pici> GAMESERVER: #ubuntu-offtopic is the Ubuntu 'chat
[16:08] <asmith42> Hello. So I have a fresh install of Ubuntu Server with AMP (i.e. no GUI). What is the best way to connect to it with Windows so that I can continue to set it up remotely over the LAN?
 run apt-get ssh
[16:08] <Sake> bazhang: windows
[16:08] <Sake> bazhang: winxp pro to be precise
 then get putty on windows
[16:09] <daire> how do i allow apps to run in fullscreen, like wine and adobe flash videos on youtube? my menu and taskbars keep blocking them
[16:09] <sipior> asmith42: puTTY is a nice ssh client for windows, and you can log into your new machine that way
[16:09] <asmith42> Thank you, GAMESERVER and sipior.
[16:09] <bazhang> Sake: not sure how the windows version of vmware works; have you read the vmware.com faq?
[16:09] <TWP-SirStaal> Daire: Get the nonfree flash for the youtube videos.
[16:09] <asmith42> I think my hang up was not having ssh installed first. That's all I needed. Have a great day!
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[16:10] <daire> TWP-Sirstaa i thought i had the non free one. i had a choice between adobes and anohter os one
[16:10] <Sake> bazhang: looking...
[16:10] <TWP-SirStaal> Daire: I had the same problem when I begun with Ubuntu
[16:11] <Gektor> hi all, can you explain me: is ubuntu supports directx 10?
[16:11] <sipior> Gektor: sadly, no
[16:11] <bazhang> Gektor: likely not
[16:11] <raven478> i just wish dreamweaver and flash cs3 would work on ubuntu
[16:11] <bazhang> daire sounds like you mean gnash
[16:12] <Gektor> and what about dx9? i saw screenshots where smbd play games in ubuntu?
[16:12] <Sake> bazhang: can't seem to find the info
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Gektor, try asking in #Winehq
[16:12] <Sake> but basically, I'm getting a "connect: Network is unreachable" error when I ping google.com, and I want to know how to configure the network.
[16:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb
[16:12] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[16:12] <AudioSenseCD> Gektor: games in ubuntu running wine......
[16:12] <daire> bazhang, TWP-SirStaal - yes afaik i installed adobe instead of gnash
[16:12] <bazhang> Sake: no idea then have you asked in the vmware or windows channels?
[16:12] <Gektor> Jack_Sparrow, AudioSenseCD thx
[16:13] <raven478> Well none of the adobe cs3 products work on wine
[16:13] <Sake> yea, no answer in vmware... I'll try the windows channel
[16:13] <AudioSenseCD> hello Jack_Sparrow:
[16:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey
[16:14] <daire> bazhang, TWP-SirStaal - add/remove programs says i have flash
[16:14] <MrBill> This might be a bit out of place, but perhaps someone can point me in the right direction anyways. I'm wondering if anyone knows of a good software package for turning some xvid and divx files into DVD that will play in a regular DVD player.
[16:14] <daire> !divx
[16:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:14] <MrBill> I had some programs in WinXP that woudl take care of this, but I don't know how to tackle this from Ubuntu
[16:14] <Slart> MrBill: devede is a nice one.. gui based and all
[16:14] <sudobash> transcode and mplayer's converter
[16:15] <nathan_> is there a daemon that automagically mounts usb drives?
[16:15] <genii> MrBill: I also recommend devede, you can import almost any format and create a dvd which plays in regular standalone
[16:15] <Slart> nathan_: yes.. I think udev might do that for you
[16:15] <bazhang> daire streaming youtube? or downloade youtube vids?
[16:15] <typhoon07> forgive this question I know it isnt ubuntu specific however;     how can I remove all files of a certain type from my file system,  I want to delete every m4a file i have without having to go into each directory in turn
[16:15] <typhoon07> ?
[16:15] <mheath> Slart: no, it doesn't.
[16:15] <legend2440> Chukchi_Husky: does card show up when you type lspci in terminal?
[16:15] <sipior> nathan_: generally hal and dbus do that for you. does it not work?
[16:15] <mheath> nathan_: Yes, there is - and its integrated into every desktop edition of Ubuntu.
[16:15] <sudobash> downloading youtube vids is the quickest way to download music now
[16:16] <bazhang> so true
[16:16] <Slart> typhoon07: "find" do that for you... man find for syntax etc
[16:16] <nathan_> mheath, where does it mount to? I thought it would be /mnt or /media, but none of the above
[16:16] <MrBill> I will take a peek at devede - thanks for the suggestion.
[16:16] <Lamego> typhoon07, find path -name "*.m4a" -exec rm {} \;
[16:16] <typhoon07> cheers guys
[16:16] <Finnish_> What would be the easiest way to send a 130mb zip file to a friend? Not via messenger!
[16:16] <Jack_Sparrow> typhoon07, there is a command that can remove those recursively, but very dangerous if typed incorrectly
[16:16] <mheath> nathan_: generally /media. If you're running a desktop version of Ubuntu, it'll create a desktop icon link to the moutpoint when you insert it
[16:17] <daire> bazhang - streaming youtube
[16:17] <Slart> mheath: oh.. what is it that does it then? any idea?
[16:17] <mheath> Finnish_: Some kind of direct connection file transfer would be your best bet
[16:17] <daire> bazhang - i want mu ubuntu menu and task bar to dissapear when i go fullscreen
[16:17] <Chukchi_Husky> It doesn't show up.
[16:17] <nathan_> mheath, I got ubuntu with fluxbox atm
[16:17] <typhoon07> enlighten me Jack_Sparrow
[16:17] <Jack_Sparrow> daire, there will be a sliver left even if set to auto hide
[16:17] <legend2440> Chukchi_Husky: card may not be seated correctly
[16:18] <bazhang> daire: is there not some option of hiding them? not in gnome at the moment sorry
[16:18] <Finnish_> mheath: Yeah, but what kind of..?
[16:18] <mheath> nathan_: Fluxbox won't do it. I was refering to official ubuntu desktop editions - Xubuntu, UBuntu, Kubuntu.
[16:18] <legend2440> Chukchi_Husky: card may not be seated correctly do you have another slot you could try
[16:18] <erUSUL> typhoon07: Lamego already have enlighten you ;P
[16:18] <mheath> Slart: Its a combination of HAL + Dbus and a desktop environment specific daemon that handles the actual mounting
[16:18] <nathan_> mheath, ah ok
[16:18] <Jack_Sparrow> typhoon07, please man rm   -r and -f specifically.. I will not even write it in here.
[16:18] <mheath> Slart: I haven't looked into it lately, but a few years back the Gnome component was called gnome-volume-manager.
[16:19] <Slart> mheath: ah.. that sounds familiar.. good to know.. thanks
[16:19] <daire> Jack_Sparrow, bazhang: in windows when i watch a youtube video it's possible to control the volume, and the scrolling of the video when in full screen
[16:19] <typhoon07> that bad eh?
[16:19] <daire> i can't access any of this stuff from ubuntu firefox flash
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> daire, this isnt windows
[16:19] <daire> Jack_Sparrow: o rly?
[16:20] <bazhang> daire: get miro download them and then watch them full screen that way
[16:20] <daire> i think my taskbar is blocking the interface for controling the volume and scrolling
[16:20] <Slart> daire: I've never been able to use those features in firefox either..
[16:20] <daire> also when i use wine in full screen
[16:20] <daire> i can see my menu and taskbars
[16:20] <bazhang> daire though youtube fullscreen is not quite HD quality
[16:21] <daire> idd
[16:21] <daire> still fullscreen is nice
[16:21] <daire> i want apps to be able to fullscreen like the ubuntu screensave full screens
[16:21] <hnnashik> Can somene tell me how I stop/start/restart my samba server from the terminal ? plz /q me
[16:22] <binarical-app> any ebox people here?
[16:22] <bazhang> daire so you said; sudo apt-get install miro then dl and done
[16:22] <erUSUL> hnnashik: sudo invoque-rc samba start|stop|restart
[16:22] <daire> kk ty
[16:22] <erUSUL> hnnashik: sudo invoque-rc.d samba start|stop|restart  ||| sorry for the typo
[16:23] <dmsuperman_> I'm SSH'ing remotely, so I get no GUI apps. My current memory usage is 97% of 2GB, with only 1% of my swap used. How can I tell what's using this memory, and how can I tell it to use the swap?
[16:23] <sipior> invoke-rc.d, surely?
[16:23] <Stroganoff> erUSUL are you french by any chance?
[16:23] <dmsuperman_> Only things I'm running on the system are apache, firefox, thunderbird, and xchat
[16:23] <greg-g> I have a question: I have two partitions for /, one was Gutsy (now Hardy) and one was testing Hardy64.  Hardy32 is sda1, Hardy64 is sda4.  When booting grub shows the menu.lst from sda4:/boot not sda1:/boot    Where does one set this?
[16:23] <erUSUL> Stroganoff: nope a little bit down south ;P Galicia, Spain
[16:24] <kriel> Any suggestions on getting /proc/apm to work? Reading on the internets suggested that I just needed to add the kernel option apm=on (since apm's already built in to the kernel supposedly) but i added it to the end of the kernel line in my grub/menu.lst and no go. Suggestions?
[16:24] <bazhang> greg-g: #ubuntu+1 please
[16:24] <unop__> dmsuperman, top
[16:25] <typhoon07> Lamego thanks for that it worked a treat
[16:25] <unop__> dmsuperman, if you enabled x forwarding in ssh, you could get GUI apps to run too
[16:25] <erUSUL> kriel: is your machine old enough to not support acpi (instead of apm) ?
[16:25] <dmsuperman_> unop__: yeah, not really a chance to right now because I'm at work
[16:25] <dmsuperman_> unop__: how can i order by memory usage?
[16:25] <kriel> erUSUL: I'm trying to get an x-based battery meter, and the option is to either rewrite the meter to look at /acpi or turn apm on.
[16:26] <unop__> dmsuperman, see the top manpage - you could also use ps
[16:26] <sipior> greg-g: you can reinstall grub from your 32-bit install, if you want, but you can boot from either
[16:26] <bazhang> htop is nice too
[16:26] <Chukchi_Husky> That fixed it.
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> greg-g, if I understand your question .. you dont .. the last install has the grub info.  you would add what you want from sda1 grub to the sda4 as mbr will be looking there
[16:26] <acomaco> Hmm, I found a way to enable compiz in Ubuntu..But i can't find where to config it..
[16:26] <legend2440> Chukchi_Husky: good
[16:26] <dmsuperman_> acomaco: install ccms
[16:26] <bazhang> acomaco: need to install ccsm
[16:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm > acomaco
[16:27] <acomaco> ok ok thanks (L)
[16:27] <legend2440> Chukchi_Husky: good shows up when you lspci?
[16:27] <AdvoWork> hi there, ive just done a ls - all  and ive got a folder in there thats red, with no permissions just -----?  ? ? ? etc, whats that mean?
[16:27] <erUSUL> kriel: i did grep -i apm /boot/config-2.6.22-14-generic and it seems that the ubuntu kernel does not support apm...
[16:27] <Chukchi_Husky> I opened up Firefox and went to Google and it worked.
[16:27] <legend2440> Chukchi_Husky: did you have to reseat it?
[16:28] <dmsuperman_> unop__: http://dmsuperman.com/phpsysinfo/
[16:28] <kriel> erUSUL: crap. -.- My internets reading must be wrong. I'll double check my kernel settings. Thanks.
[16:28] <aboumariam> bonsoir
[16:28] <dmsuperman_> unop__: It's using 67% for caching, any clue why that might be?
[16:28] <Chukchi_Husky> I thought it was in until I pushed it, and it went in properly.
[16:28] <Vadi> How can I fix my root's programs look? As soon as I give my password to a program, it changes it looks to be very, very ugly.
[16:28] <legend2440> Chukchi_Husky: show up in lspci now?
[16:28] <sipior> greg-g: Jack_Sparrow The trick there is that new kernel installs on the 32-bit side of things won't be tracked automatically by the grub on sda4. i can't think of an easy way around this, sadly.
[16:29] <kriel> lets try a different angle: anybody know of a simple x-based battery meter? (I'm in the process of switching from GNOME, so the gnome-battery-applet isn't a valid answer)
[16:29] <Spacecow568> has anybody in here had experience in booting 7.10 off of an external HDD?
[16:29] <unicum> what's the standard "downloadfolder" for wget?
[16:30] <sipior> unicum: generally the current working directory
[16:30] <DRebellion> unicum, current directory
[16:30] <bazhang> Spacecow568: sure
[16:30] <Vadi> unicum: it downloads to the directory where you're inn atm
[16:30] <unicum> oh.. seems to be home
[16:30] <erUSUL> unicum: it dl the file to the dir you launched it from
[16:30] <unicum> hrhr
[16:30] <Spacecow568> okay bazhang, one second
[16:30] <legend2440> unicum: whatever folder your in when you wget
[16:30] <unicum> thx for your help
[16:30]  * Werdna floods FloodBot1 
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang, When you get a sec please pm me for a sec about miro...
[16:30] <bazhang> sure Jack_Sparrow
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> greg-g, understood...
[16:30] <dmsuperman_> My system is using 67% of my 2gb of memory for cache, and only 1% of the swap. Anybody know a common thing that might cause this?
[16:31] <Vadi> dmsuperman_: that's not a problem, that's a good thing
[16:31] <sipior> dmsuperman: normal usage
[16:31] <AdvoWork> im trying to do a samba share to a folder, but because the folder on the windows machine is like  "the folder" with a space in, it wont allow me to do it, without changing the folder name, is there anything I can put in between the two words to act as a space?
[16:31] <Vadi> dmsuperman_: lots of cache is good, but using swap as cache is bad. So you're doing perfect
[16:32] <dmsuperman_> Vadi: So I shouldn't be worried that I only have 3% memory available? If something requests more memory, will the caching take lower priority?
[16:32] <Vadi> dmsuperman_: of course. It instantly gets cleared and used for whatever is needed.
[16:32] <sipior> AdvoWork: just use a backslash to escape the space: "the\ folder"
[16:32] <Vadi> dmsuperman_: meanwhile, things are more responsive because there's less io going on due to caching.
[16:33] <dmsuperman_> Vadi: awesome. I'm so used to windows, where no matter what it would always write into the swap, regardless of free memory. stupid windows causing me to get all panicked. thanks loads for your help :D
[16:33] <acomaco> hmm..Is there anything that has to be done to get that ccms thing to work? since I keep on enabling/disabling things, trying out other keybindings, but i get no effect out of it..?
[16:33] <Vadi> dmsuperman_: np.
[16:34] <globe> can anybody explain to me why Upstart commands (start serviceName) always fail from within a cron job?
[16:34] <Kiov> i'm rying to change my resolution options available but when i add them to the x conf file, save and reboot they dont show up.. any idea?
[16:35] <sipior> globe: they might require a controlling terminal. is there an error given?
[16:35] <acomaco> globe, maybe your trying to run super user commands?
[16:35] <greg-g> sipior: Jack_Sparrow thanks (sorry, was away for a second)
[16:36] <greg-g> sipior: so it is possible for the /boot on sda1 to "regain control" of the mbr?
[16:36] <globe> sipior: There isnt any error given... my cron entry logs the output and nothing comes out.  Its as if the command didn't exist in the term
[16:36] <Chukchi_Husky> It does show up.
[16:36] <sipior> greg-g: sure, but it's not clear why you'd want to do that. best to pick one grub install and stick with it...
[16:36] <gcc_> 11111111111
[16:36] <globe> uh... s/term/script/
[16:37] <luccons> Hi
[16:37] <legend2440> Chukchi_Husky: good all set then
[16:37] <luccons> I've a problem about ubuntu 7.10
[16:37] <globe> acomaco: I believe that they do require it, an so I am running it from root's crontab...
[16:37] <sipior> globe: you might try redirecting all output to /dev/null
[16:37] <luccons> can you help me?
[16:37] <sipior> luccons: can you be more specific?
[16:37] <greg-g> sipior: ok, then, to have sda4 continue with the control, I just have to manually copy over entries to it from sda1?  there is no way I automate it (I realize that when installing on sda4 I should not have set it to manage the mbr, too late now though)
[16:37] <luccons> ok
[16:37] <adamb> Hey guys, im using imap_open, kind of confused on how I can read the newest emails.. anyone have some advice on matter?
[16:38] <acomaco> globe, well can't help..
[16:38] <globe> sipior: well, i'll try it, but I can't figure how that would help...
[16:38] <globe> acomaco: thanks for trying ;-)
[16:38] <luccons> My problem is about wireless connection....the net need a proxy configuration....I did on system---->preferencies--->proxy
[16:38] <sipior> greg-g: yes, that's right. unfortunately, i can't think of a simple way to do that automagically.
[16:39] <greg-g> sipior: ok, thanks for the help
[16:39] <J311YF15H> hey what command to remove fodler and files in it from terminal,any help?
[16:39] <sipior> greg-g: no trouble
[16:39] <globe> J311YF15H:  rm -R folderName
[16:39] <J311YF15H> big thanks
[16:39] <luccons> sipior?
[16:39] <Spacecow568> can anyone help me out with booting from my USB HDD?
[16:40] <sipior> luccons: i'm not clear what your question is
[16:40] <dem0nk1d> sipior: found a working partition util that works for resizing ext3 made with Ubuntu.  it's called "Paragon Partition Manager Suite 9.0.554
[16:40] <dem0nk1d> you can find it on hiren's boot disc
[16:40] <luccons> my question is how can connect to the wireless net with a proxy
[16:40] <dem0nk1d> worked like a champ
[16:40] <sipior> dem0nk1d: awesome, glad you found a solution
[16:40] <legend2440> Spacecow568: does your bios support boot from usb?
[16:41] <Vadi> How can I fix my root's programs look? As soon as I give my password to a program, it changes it looks to be very, very ugly.
[16:41] <luccons> my english is very poor, I know
[16:41] <dem0nk1d> root's program look?
[16:41] <dem0nk1d> you mean Bash
[16:41] <Spacecow568> legend2440: i am able to select USB-HDD in boot devices, yes
[16:41] <adamb> what function would I use in php.net/imap to get the newest message?
[16:41] <mheath> dem0nk1d: no, thats not what he means.
[16:41] <dem0nk1d> what does he mean then?  LOL
[16:42] <Spacecow568> legend2440: however, when i do this, it asks me to put in the system disk, so im not sure if my computer supports it
[16:42] <legend2440> Spacecow568: so what is happening? grub error?
[16:42] <sipior> luccons: that's fine. there should be a tab for configuring proxies in the network configuration program
[16:42] <mheath> dem0nk1d: GTK programs that are running as Root and thus don't inherit the users theme.
[16:42] <Spacecow568> legend2440: grub wont boot from USB HDD
[16:42] <Spacecow568> legend2440: because the computer thinks it's not a system disk??
[16:42] <dem0nk1d> terminal / console is the best
[16:42] <Vadi> Yeah. Just gdebi changes it's look as soon as I give it a password
[16:42] <Vadi> How can I have it be consistent?
[16:42] <legend2440> Spacecow568: using gutsy right?
[16:42] <luccons> sipior:where is the network configuration program?
[16:43] <Spacecow568> legend2440: yes
[16:43] <bruno> #ubunto-br
[16:43] <dts> If i install the beta right now, do i have to reinstall to be running the final release in 10 days?
[16:43] <mheath> Vadi: I know entirely what you're talking about, but to be honest I've never bothered to try to fix it myself.....maybe try running the theme manager with 'sudo', and setting root's theme to the same as yours?
[16:43] <nationdemon> package uses Breaks; not supported in this dpkg -> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/dpkg_1.14.5ubuntu16_amd64.deb (--unpack): << what do I have to do? occures during dist-upgrade
[16:43] <legend2440> Spacecow568: dual boot with windows?
[16:43] <bruno> alguem sabe do ubunto do brasil?
[16:43] <sipior> luccons: System->Preferences->Network Proxy
[16:44] <Spacecow568> legend2440: yes
[16:44] <erUSUL> !br | bruno
[16:44] <ubotu> bruno: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[16:44] <Spacecow568> legend2440: window sis on an internal
[16:44] <Al> exit
[16:44] <Al> sorry
[16:44] <Vadi> mheath: I tried! But it has yet another look when I launch it like that :(
[16:44] <legend2440> Spacecow568: so when it fails does it continue on and boot windows?
[16:44] <luccons> sipior: I've modified the settings into networking proxy but no results
[16:44] <thomas_> hi
[16:45] <sipior> luccons: perhaps the proxy information is incorrect?
[16:45] <luccons> sipior: I'm connected at the net but with the browser I cannot open the web pages
[16:45] <Spacecow568> legend2440: only if i have HDD-2 as a third boot-device or if i enable Boot other devices
[16:45] <luccons> sipior: no it isn't
[16:45] <theneb> What is the ubuntu gfx setup proram called? It's vanished from my menu
[16:45] <Spacecow568> legend2440: grub boots if tat is enabled
[16:45] <sipior> luccons: then that would suggest that there is no proxy listening where you think there is :-)
[16:46] <Spacecow568> legend2440: and i have the choice of ubuntu 6.06 and windows 2000 on the internal
[16:46] <globe> sipior: nope...I didn't think so.  redirecting output to /dev/null still gives me no control over upstart from my cron script
[16:47] <tpp> Hi. I have just bought a new computer with a intel 82G33/G31 Express graphics card. I won't let me choose the resolution i want (1920x1200), even though I have added it to xorg.conf. I've set the horiz and vert refresh rates correctly, but for the some reason the list of resolutions to choose from does not correspond to what is in xorg.conf. Can anyone explain this to me? Thanks
[16:47] <luccons> sipior: my friend near me with kubuntu and with the settings done for the proxy I can go to the net
[16:47] <sipior> globe: well, we must exclude all possibilities. you redirected std error as well, right? also, have you verified that you can run this from the terminal?
[16:47] <legend2440> Spacecow568: when booting from usb hd can you get into grub by pressing 'e'?
[16:47] <sipior> luccons: and with the identical proxy settings you still can't access web sites?
[16:48] <luccons> sipior: no I don't
[16:48] <luccons> sipior: strange?
[16:48] <sipior> luccons: have you tried configuring the proxy information directly in firefox?
[16:48] <luccons> no
[16:48] <luccons> I didn't
[16:49] <Spacecow568> legend2440: when booting from USB-HD, i dont get as far as grub. it comes up with an error (not from grub) that generally says Invalid disk, Insert the system disk
[16:49] <globe> sipior: the script runs perfectly when executed manually, so I know it works (even if I redirect output to the logfile).
[16:49] <luccons> how can I modify the information on firefox?
[16:49] <Spacecow568> legend2440: i can only get to grub if i boot from internal
[16:49] <sipior> luccons: it's in the preferences dialogue somewhere
[16:49] <luccons> sipior: how can I modify the information proxy  on firefox?
[16:49] <MrBill> Ok, so i've gone and enabled my backport repositories so that I can install 1.0rc2 of mplayer/mencoder as required by devede. I'm also getting an "automatic updates" for 17 other items in the backport repo. Is it generally advised to not let all my updates from the backport repo take effect?
[16:49] <legend2440> Spacecow568:  oh thats right sorry forgot you said that
[16:49] <sipior> globe: how exactly are you adding this to your crontab?
[16:50] <sipior> globe: and could you pastebin the crontab entry?
[16:50] <globe> sipior: as for redirecting stderr also, I tried that using /path/to/script &>> /var/log/file
[16:50] <sipior> globe: one too many ">" there
[16:50] <luccons> sipior: thanks so much
[16:51] <sipior> luccons: did that work then?
[16:51] <globe> sipior: won't that overwrite the entire logfile with the most recent entry?  I'll pastebin the logfile, but wheres the pastebin for this channel?
[16:51] <Chetic_> I'm not getting any sound with flash movies (and other applications aswell) can anybody help me figure out why? I think it has to do with when I had two soundcards. The one I disabled was the default one
[16:51] <sipior> globe: don't pastebin the logfile, pastebin the crontab entry
[16:51] <sipior> !pastebin > globe
[16:52] <alx54> eerm anybody know how to make strigi keep its index? i dont want to index my whole disk before searching everytime =(
[16:52] <globe> sipior: yea, thats what I meant... ;-)
[16:52] <legend2440> Spacecow568:  hope this isn't your problem but this page addresses it somewhat http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=495151
[16:53]  * Neo_Tech is away (Off Dulu,Istirahat...)
[16:53] <Pici> !away > Neo_Tech (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:53] <alx54> legend2440 u use kubuntu?
[16:54] <legend2440> alx54: no ubuntu
[16:54] <Spacecow568> legend2440: somewhat, but in ukripper's first post, he says his does it whenever the USB drive is turned on. mine only does it if i tell it to boot from USB-HD
[16:55] <smokvica> Enter HELLO
[16:55] <Spacecow568> legend2440:otherwise, the computer just boots from an internal, since that would probably be a secondary or back-up boot device
[16:55] <alx54> legend2440 hm then u dont know the prog strigi right
[16:55] <globe> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63325/
[16:56] <sipior> globe: if you need that run as root, you'll need to specify "root" as the run-as user
[16:56] <legend2440> alx54: desktop search program?
[16:56] <mirko__> where can I get virtualbox for hardy?
[16:56] <sipior> globe: have a look at some examples in man crontab
[16:56] <usuario> joseeldelamoto@hotmail.com
[16:57] <genii> !info nepomuk
[16:57] <ubotu> Package nepomuk does not exist in gutsy
[16:57] <genii> hmm
[16:57] <sipior> globe: man 5 crontab, actually
[16:57] <alx54> legend2440 yeah you know how to make strigi keep its index? i dont want to index my whole disk before searching everytime =(
[16:57] <globe> sipior: its installed as root's crontab... I use    sudo -s    crontab -e    to put it in there, so the user field is out, right?
[16:58] <tushyd> if I burn a data CD using gnome's built in writer application will the disc be readable by windows/macs?
[16:58] <globe> sipior: I tried redirecting ( &> /dev/null ) on the start command in the 'tab and it still won't execute
[16:58] <sipior> globe: if it stuck in the system-wide crontab, then you will
[16:59] <gregory> !software > mirko__
[16:59] <genii> alx54: Are you on 7.X or 8.04?
[16:59] <Guest52> hey, how do i install a driver for my EPSON stylus D92 printer ?
[16:59] <StuckMojo> hey what are the packages you use to easily make your own debs?
[17:00] <StuckMojo> i want to change the build options in the postgresql package and rebuild it
[17:00] <alx54> genii i think 7.X   so i have kde3.5.8   (not 4)
[17:00] <alx54> genii i heard its integrated better in kde4
[17:00] <Chetic_> I'm not getting any sound with flash movies (and other applications aswell) can anybody help me figure out why? I think it has to do with when I had two soundcards. The one I disabled was the default one
[17:00] <bazhang> tushyd: should be yes
[17:00] <alx54> genii you know how to make strigi keep its index? i dont want to index my whole disk before searching everytime =(
[17:00] <MrBill> I have enabled my backport repos in order to get an updated/unbugged version of mencoder/mplayer. 17 other updates were found by my automatic updates, is it generally advised not to apply updates from a backport repo?
[17:01] <tushyd> bazhang, thank you
[17:01] <globe> sipior: I am pretty sure taht it is then stored in the user's crontab, although I don't remember where that file is at the moment
[17:01] <dca_> Help me não estou conseguindo montar os HDs do Ubuntu 8.04
[17:01] <WebGuest> hey guys
[17:01] <erUSUL> MrBill: backports are pretty safe (unlike proposed)
[17:01] <WebGuest> have a question about Wubi, where do I ask?
[17:01] <Spacecow568> legend2440: you think the drive is bad?
[17:01] <erUSUL> !br | dca_
[17:01] <ubotu> dca_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[17:01] <gregory> StuckMojo: this may help you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[17:01] <sipior> globe: then simply add it to /etc/crontab
[17:01] <bazhang> dca_: portuguese?
[17:01] <Spacecow568> legend2440: that's what it looks like from the problems in the post you gave me
[17:02] <globe> sipior: but specifying the user as root, right?
[17:02] <MrBill> thank you erUSUL - i'm pretty new to Ubuntu and am not real eager to do something that is gonna hose me
[17:02] <WebGuest> YO!
[17:02] <WebGuest> Wubi, help, tried #wubi but it doesn't exist
[17:02] <Stroganoff> StuckMojo: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/
[17:02] <legend2440> Spacecow568: i hope not can you check it in windows? how is it fomatted ntfs?
[17:02] <aeleon> sup. anybody have any idea why, though i'm using a vpn to use my internets at home from school, the ports open at home aren't really that open from here? I tried #networking & #openvpn but everybody's lurking as usual.
[17:02] <corinth> A recommendation for a tool to minimize apps to the system tray?
[17:02] <sipior> globe: as i recall, running crontab -e as root without specifying the user defaults to /etc/crontab
[17:03] <globe> sipior: well, its not in that one...where are the user crontabs located?
[17:03] <gregory> WebGuest: yes, so i think you can ask here for sure
[17:03] <WebGuest> ok, how do I mount my virtual disks in Windows?
[17:03] <Spacecow568> legend2440: yes, i see it in windows, it's formatted as NTFS i think. But when i installed i made ext3and linux-swap part's
[17:03] <aboumariam> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[17:03] <WebGuest> can I access files in Wubi in windows?
[17:03] <genii> alx54: Since this is more a kde issue please respond in #kubuntu channel on this subject
[17:03] <sipior> globe: actually, i don't recall correctly. modify /etc/crontab directly
[17:04] <globe> sipior: yea, I am adding it now.  :-)
[17:04] <giantmidget> would anyone know how to increased the shared video memory on an acer extensa 5220?
[17:04] <alx54> genii yeah i tried, but noone would listen to me so i tried #ubuntu =) thanks anyway
[17:05] <xaeroe> any particular reason why fullscreen games like Urban Terror and TA Spring will randomly leave fullscreen?  7.10 64bit, nvidia 7600gs
[17:05] <Jack_Sparrow> WebGuest, I suggest you read the faq for wubi.. it is supported by ubuntu.. (but it would not be my choice)
[17:05] <WebGuest> Jack_Sparrow: I read the FAQ
[17:05] <WebGuest> it doesn't say how you can mount the wubi volume in windows, it does tell you how to do it from an Ubuntu livecd
[17:06] <tushyd> When i switch to Hardy, should I use the 64bit or the 32bit version? (i have a core2duo, 2.4ghz) I want the least hassles
[17:06] <HelloWorld10> i would to ask a stupid Q that, how long time it will take to back up a 1GB system file by using PartImage?
[17:06] <legend2440> Spacecow568: if its ext3 i guess you could check it with fsck but it has to be unmounted first. maybe someone knows a way to check it for errors under linux. i hope thats not the problem
[17:06] <Stroganoff> tushyd least hassles? use 32bit then
[17:06] <tushyd> ok, thanks
[17:06] <sipior> HelloWorld10: generally only a minute or two
[17:07] <kevin__> xaeroe: i've had that heppen to me when playing tremulous
[17:07] <Spacecow568> legend2440: ok. thanks for your help
[17:07] <kevin__> xaeroe:  try disabling screensavers,setting it to never automayically come on. that fixed it for me
[17:07] <globe> sipior: well that did it.... for the record user crontabs are located @ /var/spool/cron/crontabs and the file named 'root' is where sudo crontab -e stuffs the edits.  Apparently though it doesn't end up running as root.
[17:07] <xaeroe> oh, i see... i'll try that
[17:07] <HelloWorld10> sipior, wow, then it's faster than by using Ghost?
[17:08] <kevin__> automatically, sorry
[17:08] <xaeroe> oddly i've noticed my ping is much lower in ubuntu playing games... kinda cool i guess
[17:08] <sipior> HelloWorld10: never used Ghost, couldn't say
[17:08] <WebGuest> anyone have a soluion to mounting virtualdisks of Wubi on Windows?
[17:08] <WebGuest> solution*
[17:08] <cgs_bob> hello all.  I have a ton of files in my /tmp directory.  what is the safest way to get rid of unnessary files and directories?
[17:09] <globe> sipior: thanks for helping on this one, i've been pulling my hair out for a week ;-)
[17:09] <gregory> cgs_bob: move them to the bin, then empty the bin
[17:09] <HelloWorld10> sipior, i c, so i decide to use partimage to do backup, coz 'tar' takes long time
[17:09] <erUSUL> cgs_bob: they are deleted at shutdown
[17:09] <sipior> globe: no trouble, glad you got it sorted
[17:09] <HelloWorld10> well, is it possible to burn the backup into a CD, and restore it to ext3 other days without problems?
[17:10] <sipior> HelloWorld10: from partimage? sure.
[17:10] <RedRocker> hi all
[17:10] <ikonia> hello
[17:10] <sipior> HelloWorld10: but you're getting the *whole* partition, right? so it won't likely fit on a single cd
[17:10] <conversa> hfg
[17:10] <HelloWorld10> sipior, wow
[17:10] <conversa> dfgd
[17:11] <conversa> fghfg
[17:11] <erUSUL> !hi | ikonia
[17:11] <ubotu> ikonia: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:11] <conversa> graias
[17:11] <HelloWorld10> sipior, oh yeah, what about burning into a DVD?
[17:11] <conversa> q hces
[17:11] <conversa> no se nada en inge
[17:11] <sipior> HelloWorld10: well, once you have the image, you can put it wherever you like, of course
[17:11] <conversa> puro español
[17:11] <gregory> conversa: #ubuntu-es
[17:11] <RedRocker> does anybody know how to configure properly a macbook 3.1 trackpad under ubuntu ? thanks
[17:12] <cgs_bob> erUSUL: I guess I've had my computer up for quite a while...not like my windows box at work :)  thanks for the info
[17:12] <ikonia> RedRocker: is it not working out of the box ?
[17:12] <HelloWorld10> sipior, so it doesn't matter the format of DVD to fit a ext3 backup file?
[17:12] <benanzo> Where can I find the command to lock the screen in Gnome?  The Keyboard Shortcuts menu doesn't work when I'm using Compiz so I need to set a custom command in compiz-config
[17:12] <ikonia> benanzo: xlock isn't it
[17:13] <benanzo> No
[17:13] <erUSUL> cgs_bob: it is your /tmp very large?
[17:13] <adamb> So im trying to grab messages via imap_open, I can connect, but I cant find a function to read the emails, anyone know?
[17:13] <sipior> HelloWorld10: the image that partimage produces is just a file, and can be burned, copied or whatever. as long as it remains intact, you can then recover the partition
[17:13] <RedRocker> ikonia: there are some glitches and the two finger tapping isn't really working
[17:14] <HelloWorld10> sipior, alright, i get the answer, thank you very much for the info! ;D
[17:14] <gregory> adamb: you deliberately posted in ubuntu? ;-)
[17:14] <adamb> no, mistake  =)
[17:15] <globe> sipior: FYI, previous to moving the script to the system crontab, the script was able to mount/unmount /dev/sdb1 (which isn't in fstab) so it had some sort of root privileges, just not the ability to command upstart.  Its probably an upstart bug....
[17:16] <hitmanWilly> ok, quick question, is there any superkaramba type of app for gnome?
[17:16] <benanzo> I found it: "gnome-screensaver-command --lock"
[17:16] <sipior> globe: that does seem bizarre
[17:16] <ikonia> benanzo ahh well done
[17:17] <W8TAH> if i get a bunch of suggested and recomended packages on an apt-get install (command line) how do i tell it to install them too?
[17:17] <allquixotic> aah! my gnome panel got moved to the left side of the screen! how do I move it back?
[17:18] <dethstar> What's a good app to manage an ipod for feisty?
[17:18] <erUSUL> W8TAH: call apt-get install again qith the packages (copy and paste)
[17:18] <aeleon> does ubuntu come with a firewall by default?
[17:18] <gregory> hitmanWilly: you might try #gnome, because the scope of your question is not neccessary limited to ubuntu
[17:18] <erUSUL> !ipod | dethstar
[17:18] <ubotu> dethstar: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[17:18] <W8TAH> ugh - 0k
[17:18] <erUSUL> aeleon: no
[17:18] <dethstar> k
[17:18] <dethstar> ty
[17:18] <erUSUL> !firewall | aeleon
[17:18] <ubotu> aeleon: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[17:19] <aeleon> thanks, erUSUL
[17:19] <blizzkid> Hi all, could I upgrade evrything _except_ the kernel to hardy?
[17:19] <sipior> blizzkid: not without problems, i imagine
[17:19] <globe>    /usr/bin/editor points to nano....how can I fix this to point to vi?...nano drives me crazy....
[17:19] <harveyd> how do I install all dependancies to a package, but not the package itself
[17:20] <hitmanWilly> gregory, yeah, I know, just figured someone might know of one
[17:20] <ikonia> globe: update-alternatives
[17:20] <gregory> allquixotic: click on it, hold and move back
[17:20] <erUSUL> harveyd: sudo apt-get build-dep package
[17:20] <ikonia> globe: or EDIROR=/usr/bin/vi
[17:20] <benanzo> aeleon: Ubuntu Hardy out in a little over a week comes with 'ufw' which is basically a python frontend to iptables.  It's very easy to manage -- however it wont handle any traffic outbound yet, only inbound
[17:20] <ikonia> EDITOR=/usr/binvi
[17:20] <harveyd> thanks @ erUSUL
[17:20] <sipior> ikonia: one more try :-)
[17:20] <ikonia> sipior: nah
[17:20] <allquixotic> gregory: had no space to move it, had to remove an applet because everything was crammed together.
[17:21] <globe> ikonia: that'll reset on reboot, right?  I'd like to change the link to point to /usr/bin/vi If I could
[17:21] <ikonia> globe: update-alternative won't, and EDITOR=/usr/bin/vi wont' if you put it in your .bash_profile
[17:22] <globe> ikonia: ... thanks!
[17:22] <aeleon> Well, i'm using a vpn with an ubuntu server, and ports that are forwarded server side are giving me trouble client-side.
[17:22] <aeleon> So I figure something's wrong with iptables.
[17:23] <erUSUL> aeleon: no iptables rule is loaded by deault on ubuntu
[17:23] <sudobash_> hey whats your all ping to goole?
[17:23] <sudobash_> google
[17:23] <tpp> hey, does anyone have any ideas on my problem posted above. don't mean to be a pain, but I just keep restarting X so don't know if someone has replied.
[17:23] <sipior> sudobash_: uh, why?
[17:23] <aeleon> i have to do some masquerade thing in order for my vpn to work though.
[17:23] <globe> ikonia: um...update-alternatives doesn't exist
[17:24] <sudobash_> because im showing over 1000 ms and usually it is 20-30 for me
[17:24] <globe> (even ithout that trailing s...)
[17:24] <sudobash_> from an OpenBSD machine
[17:24] <sudobash_> yahoo is showing the same
[17:24] <globe> ikonia: oh, wait, fat fingers... :-)
[17:25] <gregory> sudobash_: so thats probably on your ISP's side then
[17:25] <aeleon> erUSUL: basically, i've got ports forwarded just fine on the router my ubuntu server is attached to. and my vpn works beautifully, so much so that i can enter my router from my client. But the ports listed as forwarded on my router don't look open from my client.
[17:26] <Chetic_> Is there not a way to set the default soundcard for all applications?
[17:27] <erUSUL> Chetic_: man asoundconf
[17:27] <benanzo> aeleon: are the relevant ports open on the server?
[17:27] <benanzo> the ports your router is forwarding to
[17:28] <aeleon> well, how do i check?
[17:28] <benanzo> sudo iptables --list
[17:28] <aeleon> iptables has everything open by default, doesn't it?
[17:28] <benanzo> it should
[17:28] <aeleon> i did "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE"
[17:28] <aeleon> and that's the only thing i touched in iptables.
[17:29] <benanzo> So the issue then is that the router *is* forwarding to ports but they're being dropped at the server?
[17:29] <benanzo> or is the router not forwarding to ports
[17:29] <benanzo> *the
[17:29] <aeleon> well, when i check them clientside, dydns's tool says theyr'e "refused".
[17:29] <pawan> hi
[17:30] <benanzo> I would run nmap against your router to see which ports are open/filtered/closed
[17:30] <user1_> in firefox how do i resume downloading of downthemall ?
[17:31] <genii> user1_: It will usually just automatically pick the download back up
[17:31] <aeleon> I'm embarrassed to ask, benanzo, but how would I go about doing that?
[17:31] <user1_> genii it is not. how do i open downthemall ?
[17:31] <fsoij> I just installed phpmyadmin with apt-get install phpmyadmin < i think its done now but how do i access it , address? :o
[17:32] <fox_dewd> looks like you guys are very helpful people here
[17:32] <fox_dewd> i is liking
[17:32] <fox_dewd> hehe
[17:33] <hanophix33> can someone tell me why i have a 5 second delay in typing letters
[17:33] <thenetduck> hanophix33, do you have Compiz enabled?
[17:33] <hanophix33> thenetduck: yes
[17:33] <thenetduck> hanophix33, :)
[17:33] <hanophix33> thenetduck:  is that it?
[17:34] <user1_> genii it is not. how do i open downthemall ?
[17:34] <fox_dewd> what does compiz do?
[17:34] <thenetduck> hanophix33, I know that some times that happens to me if I have too many processes running with compiz
[17:34] <genii> user1_: Usually it's under Tools.. DownThemAll!Tools ...DownThemAll
[17:34] <hanophix33> thenetduck:  interesting, thanks!
[17:34] <thenetduck> hanophix33, np
[17:36] <user1_> genii thx
[17:38] <tharvey> what package would I install to obtain man pages for libc functions?
[17:38] <HelloWorld10> is it possible that i use the following method to make a boot up menu after the system crash(for an IDE hard drive)?
[17:38] <HelloWorld10> inside Ubuntu console:
[17:38] <HelloWorld10> 1. $dd if=/dev/hda of=/media/linux.lnx bs=512 count=1
[17:38] <HelloWorld10> 2. $sudo cp linux.lnx /media/hda1
[17:38] <HelloWorld10> 3. add in a line inside c:\boot.ini
[17:38] <HelloWorld10>    c:\linux.lnx="Linux Ubuntu"
[17:38] <FloodBot2> HelloWorld10: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:38] <HelloWorld10> 4. make a copy of this new boot.ini in other location
[17:39] <HelloWorld10> sorry FloodBot2
[17:39] <ompaul> HelloWorld10, it is a bot
[17:39] <HelloWorld10> =='
[17:39] <HelloWorld10> ompau1, i knew it ;D
[17:40] <HelloWorld10> 5. reboot computer, by using maxdos and execute: fdisk /mbr or under recovery console during new windows installation process: fixmbr
[17:40] <HelloWorld10> 6. the other day the bootup of computer having problems, just copy the backup boot.ini to c:\ and reboot?
[17:40] <ensi> hi guys, you dont happen to know how to make cvs not crap out all these "foo.cpp~1.34~" files?
[17:40] <Pici> HelloWorld10: Perhaps you should listen to the bot anyway and use a pastebin.
[17:40] <LordMetroid> What scheduling algorithm is used in ubuntu and I suppose in linux in general?
[17:40] <HelloWorld10> erm...how do i use pastebin?
[17:40] <ompaul> !paste | HelloWorld10
[17:40] <ubotu> HelloWorld10: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[17:41] <HelloWorld10> oh...
[17:41] <tharvey> how do I use aptitude (cmdline) to find out what package provides a specific file?
[17:41] <HelloWorld10> ty
[17:41] <unop_> tharvey, dpkg -S /path/to/file
[17:41] <Pici> tharvey: I dont believe that aptitude can do that, but apt-file can.
[17:41] <emilio> hola
[17:41] <tharvey> thx
[17:42] <n0ts0l33t> anyone particulary good with solving sound mixer problems?
[17:43] <|AudioSenseCD|> salsa
[17:43] <HelloWorld10> do i need to have a registered nick to use pastebin?
[17:43] <erUSUL> LordMetroid: CFS since 2.6.22 and prior to that the O(1) scheduler
[17:43] <erUSUL> HelloWorld10: nope
[17:43] <Pici> HelloWorld10: No.
[17:43] <ompaul> !sound | n0ts0l33t (this was was designed by the guys who wrote the alsa software)
[17:43] <ubotu> n0ts0l33t (this was was designed by the guys who wrote the alsa software): If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[17:43] <maek> use alsa n0ts0l33t
[17:43] <LordMetroid> erUSUL: Thanks
[17:44] <n0ts0l33t> I do
[17:44] <n0ts0l33t> one sec
[17:44] <n0ts0l33t> phone
[17:44] <HelloWorld10> erUSUL & Pici: thanks
[17:44] <unop_> some of these factoids are quite long, i don't know if they're even useful
[17:44] <ompaul> !sound > n0ts0l33t
[17:44] <ompaul> unop_, I used to try to make them online long but that day is long gone
[17:45] <warlock> hi, when my laptop fihish the battery it shut down, i connect it, and turn on, but when ubuntu starts, wifi dont work :S can anyone help me
[17:45] <warlock> ?
[17:45] <erUSUL> unop_: you are free to try to improve them i'm sure ops will take the time to consider the changes ;)
[17:45] <prakriti> what is the current best web page editor for ubuntu?
[17:45] <unop_> erUSUL, seriously, i don't mind
[17:45] <ompaul> !best | prakriti
[17:45] <ubotu> prakriti: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[17:45] <prakriti> ok... thanks ompaul
[17:45] <HelloWorld10> done! what else i need to follow?
[17:46] <ompaul> HelloWorld10, give the url to the channel
[17:46] <benanz1> aeleon: my internet dropped for a second
[17:46] <HelloWorld10> alright, ompau1
[17:46] <benanz1> nmap -PN -p [port] server.com
[17:46] <HelloWorld10> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63330/
[17:46] <prakriti> Howabout.... what is A web page editor for ubuntu :)
[17:46] <Pici> !html | prakriti
[17:46] <ubotu> prakriti: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages. WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem - For a howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[17:46] <aeleon> hey benzanz1
[17:46] <warlock> hi, when my laptop fihish the battery it shut down, i connect it, and turn on, but when ubuntu starts, wifi dont work :S can anyone help me?
[17:47] <aeleon> welcome back.
[17:47] <benanz1> thnx
[17:47] <weyer> can anybody hint me on what package i'm missing to enable the php mail() function?
[17:47] <weyer> php interpretation works on my apache, but mailing fails
[17:47] <dmsuperman_> weyer: you need a mail server
[17:48] <globe> weyer: sendmail ....
[17:48] <legend2440> anyone know how long gutsy will be supportrd and or updated after heron is released?
[17:48] <mneptok> globe: don't be mean
[17:48] <nclife> anyone knows a place where I can get help with an installation problem regarding playonlinux?
[17:48] <mneptok> weyer: postfix
[17:48] <weyer> globe: ah, i missed that probably, i thougth that came with the standard apache install
[17:48] <dmsuperman_> weyer: either point your php.ini smtp server to one that will allow you to use it or change it to sendmail
[17:48] <globe> mneptok: how was that mean?
[17:48] <mneptok> globe: </sarcasm>
[17:48] <simplexio> what is this php + mail stuff.. i have heard so maany whines that i dosen work ?
[17:48] <aeleon> benanz1, basically i don't know how to do anything with nmap despite having it.
[17:49] <benanz1> aeleon: you have it installed?
[17:49] <benanz1> sudo apt-get install nmap
[17:49] <globe> weyer: nope...it doesn't because if you don't need it, it can be a security vulnerability
[17:49] <hanophix33> i am trying to install themes found on gnome-look but they don't seem to look like they are supposed to, is this what grub is for?
[17:49] <spiderfire> anyone know where the clipart package puts the clipart?
[17:49] <aeleon> oh, yeah, let me install it on my server.
[17:49] <genii> legend2440: April 2009 is End Of Life for 7.10
[17:49] <Alex6691> Hey, when i upload my songs into Rhythmbox to my ipod, it comes up saying Import errors on each song and says, Gstreater plugins to to decode MP3 cannot be found, how do i fix this?
[17:49] <legend2440> genii: ok ty
[17:50] <tharvey> what package would I install to obtain man pages for libc functions?
[17:50] <globe> mneptok: I didn't mean to imply sarcasm by simply answering the question posed.  Sorry to offend you.
[17:50] <pawan> hi
[17:50] <unop_> HelloWorld10, did you know that's it is just much easier to get grub to boot windows up rather than the other way around?
[17:50] <llp> hi! how can I configura openoffice to use gnome print dialog on ubuntu?
[17:51] <mneptok> globe: i was being sarcastic. sendmail is notoriously complex, with a config file best treated as a binary. :)
[17:51] <unop_> HelloWorld10, whats the state of your harddrive now?
[17:51] <dmsuperman_> unop_: Seconded
[17:51] <genii> legend2440: np. This info on all releases can be found at https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Releases   (obviously edubuntu-centric but applicable)
[17:51] <aeleon> ok benanz1, got nmap.
[17:51] <HelloWorld10> unop_, do you mean grub4dos?
[17:51] <globe> mneptok: ooooohh....ok. I was throughly confused ;-)
[17:51] <mneptok> globe: welcome to my world. i live that way.
[17:51] <globe> lol
[17:51] <Pici> hanophix33: What kind of themes are you trying to install.
[17:51] <simplexio> postfix wasnt that hard to configure
[17:51] <legend2440> genii: thanks
[17:51] <unop_> HelloWorld10, no, i mean grub - the grub that boots linux can also boot windows
[17:51] <hanophix33> gtk2
[17:52] <simplexio> or exim
[17:52] <hanophix33> piciL gtk2
[17:52] <hanophix33> pici: sorry, gtk2
[17:52] <dassouki> i have a simple web service app i wana test on ubuntu, what do u guys recommend ?
[17:52] <Alex6691> Hey, when i upload my songs into Rhythmbox from my  ipod, it comes up saying Import errors on each song and says, Gstreater plugins to to decode MP3 cannot be found, how do i fix this?
[17:52] <heartsblood> what's the compiz channel?
[17:52] <HelloWorld10> unop_, well, i just prepare it just in case the system crashes..
[17:52] <Pici> hanophix33: Well, those don't really have anything to do with grub.  all you should have to do is drag the theme.tar.gz onto your themes window.
[17:52] <Pici> hanophix33: #compiz-fusion
[17:52] <heartsblood> ty
[17:52] <Pici> hanophix33: er, forget that last one. Tab complete mishap.
[17:53] <nclife> anyone knows a place where I can get help with an installation problem regarding playonlinux?
[17:53] <HelloWorld10> unop_, erm...u meant grub inside Ubuntu installation LivdCD?
[17:53] <unop_> HelloWorld10, if your system crashes, all you need to do is repair grub from within a live CD/floppy - thats what i mean, it's quicker and easier to do that backup
[17:53] <Pici> nclife: Is that another Linux distro?
[17:54] <unop_> HelloWorld10, indeed
[17:54] <HelloWorld10> unop_, oh thanks
[17:54] <HelloWorld10> unop_, i get it, thank you! ;D
[17:54] <Alex6691> Hey, when i upload my songs into Rhythmbox from my  ipod, it comes up saying Import errors on each song and says, Gstreater plugins to to decode MP3 cannot be found, how do i fix this?
[17:54] <Stroganoff> nclife: http://www.playonlinux.com/en/forums.html
[17:54] <nclife> Stroganoff, thx
[17:55] <dmsuperman_> HelloWorld10: If you can, download a supergrub iso. It's a far better one than that in the LiveCD, as it does the same detection mechanism as that of the installed grub would be (whereas the one on the LiveCD always returns different hard drive numbers than what I should actually use)
[17:55] <Alex6691> Hey, when i upload my songs into Rhythmbox from my  ipod, it comes up saying Import errors on each song and says, Gstreater plugins to to decode MP3 cannot be found, how do i fix this?   someone please help ;(
[17:55] <unop_> !patience | alex
[17:55] <ubotu> alex: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:55] <dmsuperman_> HelloWorld10: At least, the one on the LiveCD doesn't work for me, and I've seen it do the samefor others
[17:55] <unop_> !mp3 | alex
[17:55] <ubotu> alex: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:56] <Alex6691> thanks unop
[17:56] <Sake> I'm trying to edit my /etc/apt/sources.list and it tells me it can't open file for writing. How come?
[17:56] <TwinX> Sake; with sudo
[17:56] <Stroganoff> !sudo | Sake
[17:56] <Sake> yup
[17:56] <ubotu> Sake: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[17:56] <unop_> Sake, you need to be root to edit that file
[17:56] <Sake> TwinX: but I sudo'd it...
[17:56] <unop_> Sake, how did you use sudo exactly?
[17:57] <Sake> oh wait...
[17:57] <Sake> I didn't.
[17:57] <Sake> f@#@k... sorry. :)
[17:57] <TwinX> lol
[17:57] <unop_> dmsuperman, did you know all you had to do was 'install-grub /dev/sda' from the live CD -- it really is as simple as that
[17:58] <swatTX> how do i keep the sound from reseting after every restart?
[17:59] <unop_> dmsuperman, it's ok to suggest 3rd party tools - but 1) remember that the tools to do the job already exist 2) supporting the other person when you are not around is a pain :)
[17:59] <simplexio> swatTX: resetting ??
[17:59] <b4l74z4r> is it commont to name the various folders in ones home folder with capital first letters?
[17:59] <unop_> b4l74z4r, unix folk hate upper case :)
[17:59] <Pici> b4l74z4r: It really doesnt matter how you name your folders, as long as you are comfortable with it.
[18:00] <bigjohnto> hello i was using g4l to reimage my machine and when i completed and rebooted it claims the system is missing operating system, i boot back into g4l and check fdisk, shows that the right partition is the boot partition (marked with *) and I mounted the partitions and it shows that everything is correct....  how can I get the system to boot? anything else i can try to do?
[18:01] <hw00djohn> hey everyone. I'm trying to find a good GBA emulator that will work on 7.10.  I'm thinking GnomeBoy Advance (a gui front end for VBA). im fairly new to ubuntu, so i'm not exactly sure on how to install and run it
[18:01] <j2daosh> what is the command to reconfigure xorg?
[18:01] <PriceChild> !xconfig | j2daosh
[18:01] <ubotu> j2daosh: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[18:01] <unop_> bigjohnto, it might be as simple as repairing grub - see !grub
[18:01] <simplexio> bigjohnto: noidea what is g4l, but sounds like you are missing grub
[18:01] <bigjohnto> am i able to repair grub without being able to see the OS?
[18:01] <bigjohnto> !grub
[18:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:02] <unop_> bigjohnto, sure - but you need to have the liveCD (or similar)
[18:02] <unop_> simplexio, g4l = ghost for linux - all it is basically is a set of dd scripts
[18:03] <simplexio> unop_: ok tahnks
[18:03] <bigjohnto> unop, so if i am using fedora core 8, i can't use ubuntu live cd to repair?
[18:04] <unop_> bigjohnto, if you are using fedora core, you should really be in #fedora (or whatever it is) -- but yes, you can use the ubuntu live CD
[18:04] <simplexio> bigjohnto: any livecd should work
[18:05] <bigjohnto> alright perfect thanks
[18:05] <Lev1> Hi hello and howdy
[18:05] <globe> Will ubuntu install to a 2g CF or do I need to go with DSL or something like that?
[18:06] <Lev1> How can I assign permissions to a directory?
[18:06] <sethk> globe, if you install a reasonable subset of it, the 2g is fine
[18:06] <sethk> Lev1, chmod, same as a file
[18:06] <sethk> Lev1, in unix directories are just a special type of file
[18:06] <Lev1> hmm, I tried that, I must have my modifiers wrong
[18:07] <Lev1> chmod a- then what?
[18:07] <ganastasiou_> hi kde4 will be available to kubuntu hardy??????
[18:07] <sethk> Lev1, chmod +x directoryname    for example
[18:07] <Lev1> ah
[18:07] <sethk> Lev1, x makes a directory searchable
[18:07] <sethk> chmod +w,  etc.
[18:07] <globe> sethk: well, I figured, but I don't remember much of a chooser as to what gets installed...I don't even need a window manager.  Is there an installation script that will let me choose these things?
[18:07] <sethk> Lev1, if you want the change to apply to the files also, use -R
[18:08] <x0x> hello I want to disable ProFTPd from previous installation of Xampp should I look for /etc/init.d/lampp ?
[18:08] <sethk> globe, try the server install.
[18:08] <MasterShrek> ganastasiou_, definately, its available in gutsy so definately in hardy
[18:08] <Lev1> ha, that fixed it
[18:08] <Lev1> thanks
[18:08] <Stroganoff> x0x: sudo sysv-rc-conf proftpd off
[18:08] <Lev1> still getting the hang of the terminal
[18:09] <globe> sethk: even then...its for a picture frame laptop...I don't need much other than bash, cron, and usb support ;-)
[18:09] <x0x> ok
[18:09] <aeleon> hey, when I nmap my router from my ubuntu box, there is a huge list of ports listed on my router's admin page that aren't showing up in my nmap query, any suggestions?
[18:09] <Pici> globe: Perhaps the minimal installer then.
[18:09] <llp> Is there any way to configure OpenOffice to use gnome-print dialogs on Ubuntu 7.10 or 8.04
[18:09] <Pici> !minimal | globe
[18:09] <ubotu> globe: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:09] <Stroganoff> x0x this disables it from starting at bootup. to stop the service now use: sudo invoke-rc.d proftpd stop
[18:10] <globe> Pici: ooh...wonderful!  Thanks!
[18:10] <Stroganoff> a picture fram laptop? oh dear
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[18:11] <Stroganoff> x0x oops you need to install the package sysv-rc-conf first
[18:11] <ganastasiou_> i mean with the desktop cd mastershrek
[18:12] <Daiconik> server irc.epiknet.org
[18:12] <Daiconik> hi, sorry
[18:13] <MasterShrek> ganastasiou_, i doubt it will be available as a default, since kde4 is still pretty young, but it will be easily installable once you have installed to your hard drive
[18:13] <PedanticSteve> is there a way to disable my trackpad when an external mouse is connected (in Gutsy)?
[18:14] <ganastasiou_> i have gnome mastershrek,is it stable to change to kde right now?(gutsy version)
[18:15] <MasterShrek> ganastasiou_, yes, just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   (that will install kde 3.5.x) and you can choose if you want gnome or kde by choosing your session before you log in. for kde4, ill have to get you a link...
[18:15] <ganastasiou_> ok do me this favor plz
[18:15] <Stroganoff> upgrade to hardy if you want kde4.
[18:16] <Sake> I want to set up a file share that windows users on the network can connect to that has strict security restrictions (ACL-type). Is Samba my best bet?
[18:16] <MasterShrek> Stroganoff, does kde4 come with hardy by default? (i had no idea)
[18:16] <swatTX> simplexio, reseting meaning the volume defaults to max everytime i log in, no matter what level i have the sound at when i shutdown/restart
[18:17] <MasterShrek> ganastasiou_, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php   <-- check that for kde 4.0.3 in kubuntu
[18:17] <Stroganoff> MasterShrek maybe not
[18:17] <Stroganoff> ganastasiou_ you need the package kubuntu-kde4-desktop in hardy
[18:17] <xonny88> hi everyone
[18:18] <crazytalk_> i can switch between workspaces very easily from within ubuntu with ctrl+alt+cursor keys - but when i'm running something full screen like the game alien arena it doesn't work. is there a work around please?
[18:18] <simplexio> swatTX: dont know official fix for that, but you can allways but amixer command into /etc/init.d/rc.local
[18:18] <ganastasiou_> so upgrade to hardy and then apt-get kubuntu-kde4-desktop?
[18:19] <MasterShrek> ganastasiou_, you can install kde4 in gutsy if you dont want to upgrade to hardy yet (hardy is still beta)
[18:19] <simplexio> swatTX: amixer sset Master 20
[18:19] <Stroganoff> kde4 is also quite beta
 thx a lot
[18:19] <mneptok> crazytalk_: only if there's a way to tell alien arena what ctl-alt-<arrow> means
[18:20] <ganastasiou_> 9 days to go:P
[18:20] <Stroganoff> crazytalk_ you could run the game in a second XServer and switch with ctrl+alt+f7/f8
[18:20] <xonny88> I downloaded Ubuntu ISO and official webpage says i have to burn a real cd with InfraRecorder but i dont have one right now, what can i do??
[18:21] <feierfox> hello! i´m looking for a GRIP command-line to encode mp3s with the -V 2 --vbr-new LAME preset, could anyone help me?
[18:21] <swatTX> simplexio, thanks for the tip but i'm affraid to mess with that file... a little over my head.
[18:21] <Stroganoff> xonny88: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-ca8e337bdfab6bfa1d064371898775fe1e9e22fd
[18:21] <Lev1> is there anyway to log in as root or to set a user to have root permissions permanently?
[18:22] <Teo-> how can i add 4 workspaces to use compiz cube ??
[18:22] <Stroganoff> Lev1: sudo su
[18:22] <dmsuperman_> Lev1: why would you want to? that's the magic of sudo
[18:22] <unop__> Lev1, it's not a very good idea to do that
[18:22] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang, you around?
[18:22] <Lev1> why?
[18:22] <dmsuperman_> Lev1: if you really need, sudo -i
[18:22] <aeleon> if you need to use sudo for like more than one line
[18:22] <aeleon> you can sudo -i
[18:22] <theneb> What is the ubuntu app for altering xorg settings called?
[18:22] <dmsuperman_> Lev1: that will make your terminal sudo permanently
[18:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Teo-, use ccsm general settings desktop size
[18:22] <unop__> Lev1, the idea of not using root - is to prevent yourself from doing something silly and reckless and damagind the system
[18:22] <dmsuperman_> Lev1: at least until it's closed
[18:22] <aeleon> or until you exit at least.
[18:22] <crazytalk_> mneptok, Stronganoff: ty. i don't even have to switch workspaces, i would just like to be able to access the desktop or other applications while it's downloading updates etc. if there only way to do this is through xserver. plx tell me how
[18:22] <Lev1> I am the only user of my computer, having to change permissions constantly is annoying
[18:22] <Jack_Sparrow> theneb, sudo nano  gksudo gedit  or dpkg-reconfigure
[18:22] <simplexio> swatTX: oh. .. /etc/rc.local is the right place but that line
[18:22] <dmsuperman_> theneb: various things do it, but you can reconfigure it with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[18:22] <xonny88> thanks Stroganoff :)
[18:22] <Stroganoff> crazytalk_: try Alt+Enter
[18:23] <Stroganoff> crazytalk_: this should minimize the game
[18:23] <unop__> Lev1, unless you are doing it wrong, you should just be able to set permissions once and thats it
[18:23] <crazytalk_> i will try ty
[18:23] <MasterShrek> Lev1, the biggest threat to a linux machine is its user, if you run around with root priviledges all the time, theres a very good chance you will screw something up, breaking your install
[18:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Lev1, if you are constantly changing permissions you are in areas that users do not need to generally be in
[18:24] <unop__> Lev1, and becoming root permanently is just sweeping the problem under the carpet and not really addressing it
[18:24] <theneb> dmsuperman_, Jack_Sparrow : I would but the app under admin for doing it has vanished
[18:24] <simplexio> swatTX: edit /etc/rc.local and add to second last line /usr/bin/aximer sset Master 20
[18:24] <PedanticSteve> anyone know how to disable the trackpad on my laptop when an external mouse is connected?
[18:24] <Lev1> no, I can't get games to run because it says permission denied
[18:24] <theneb> I need to set the highest possible res
[18:24] <susen> hallo
[18:24] <Lev1> every app I install does that
[18:24] <Jack_Sparrow> theneb, the app for editing xorg?
[18:24] <susen> guten abenddddddddddd
[18:24] <theneb> well, for setting res, gfx card
[18:24] <Jack_Sparrow> theneb, sudo nano  gksudo gedit  or dpkg-reconfigure
[18:25] <chtp__> hi folks. anyone here knows a way to encrypt a whole _existing_ partition?
[18:25] <Stroganoff> Lev1: you'r not talking about games from the repositories, are you?
[18:25] <susen> 0131 want speak engl0131sh or deutsch ok
[18:25] <Lev1> assume I'm stupid and don't know what you're talking about
[18:25] <Stroganoff> Lev1: installed with synaptic
[18:25] <gregory> susen: #ubuntu-de
[18:25] <Lev1> I am a recent switcher from Windows
[18:25] <Lev1> I chose ubuntu because of its friendly GUI
[18:25] <Stroganoff> Lev1: how did you install the games?
[18:26] <Lev1> I downloaded them and compiled them manually
[18:26] <simplexio> chtp__: google dm_crypt & truecrypt
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Lev1, are you running games installed with synaptic or apt-get or aptitude.. or are they just from the web
[18:26] <Stroganoff> Lev1: you mean with ./configure && make && sudo make install
[18:26] <Lev1> from the web
[18:26] <Stroganoff> should work then. :D
[18:26] <Lev1> hmm
[18:27] <Lev1> I think I may be beyond my current undersatndings
[18:27] <anthony__> Hi!, don't know if here is appropriate but why wouldn't the following work:  echo "/home/anthony/" | xargs cd
[18:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Lev1, what game in particular
[18:27] <Lev1> planeshift
[18:27] <Lev1> I got Tremulous and Warsow working fine, but this one is being tough
[18:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Lev1, cd to the folder you dl'd it to and run the command Stroganoff gave
[18:28] <unop__> anthony__, well, for one its a really pointless way to do this .. cd "/home/anthony"
[18:28] <xs142> Anyone able to tell me why Azureus just won't start anymore? The splash comes up, then for half a second the window is shown and then it just goes *poff
[18:28] <erUSUL> anthony__: cd is not a command is a shell built in so no it will not work afaics
[18:28] <Lev1> I'll give it a try
[18:29] <susen> h013101310131013101310131
[18:29] <Pici> susen: Please stop.
[18:29] <anthony__> unop_ : okay i was playing around.  I wanted to go to a directory where a particular file was.. sort of find . -name myfile | xargs cd
[18:31] <crazytalk_> Stroganoff: alt+enter doesn't minimize alien arena for me, any other ideas dude?
[18:31] <unop__> anthony__, well, that won't work because xargs requires a real command not a bash builtin like cd .. you could rewrite that as .   cd $(find /path ... )
[18:31] <anthony__> unop_ : oh thanks, im new to linux and am fascinated with all the posibilties
[18:33] <erUSUL> anthony__: unop__ that will explode it ther is more than one match on the find
[18:33] <Chinaski1> hi folks?
[18:33] <Chinaski1> !
[18:33] <anthony__> erkUSUL: yes i understand, wasnt aware of $()
[18:33] <Sake> so I connected to a samba share in windows and I logged in with my user/pass and got in. How do I disconnect that session? so that it will ask me for another user/pass?
[18:33] <Chinaski1> do u know silvio berlusconi?
[18:33] <unop__> erUSUL, explode's an overstatement .. it will cd to the first argument
[18:34] <lusepuster> Chinaski1, off-topic belongs on #not-math
[18:34] <harveyd> ctrl + c isnt quitting a telnet session in the shell
[18:34] <odder> Chinaski1: whether we know Berlusconi or not, it's not related to Ubuntu.
[18:34] <susen> h013101310131013101310131013101310131013101310131013101310131
[18:34] <gregory> Chinaski1: please talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:34] <fregor> anyone got experience from pendrive installs?
[18:34] <gregory> harveyd: try ctrl+d
[18:34] <erUSUL> unop__: sorry you are right i tried here and zsh cd does explode :(
[18:34] <lusepuster> gregory, sorry from here, wrong channel...
[18:35] <harveyd> nup, nothing
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> fregor, I have a script to put an iso on usb..
[18:35] <anthony__> all: 10x everyone
[18:35] <gregory> lusepuster: dont worry
[18:35] <fregor> no, I have it on a 1gb stick already
[18:35] <chri2> a tad off topic, does anyone know of an IRC where I can get help with dreamweaver?
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> fregor, does it boot?
[18:35] <fregor> just need to know if it's updatable in some way?
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > fregor
[18:35] <Pici> chri2: #web perhaps,
[18:35] <lusepuster> gregory, I have three different channels open here... oops.
[18:36] <fregor> tried to update trouch package manager, but it got corrupt
[18:36] <gregory> lusepuster: i see you must be in a math channel too
[18:36] <fregor> *trough
[18:36] <lusepuster> gregory, well seen :-)
[18:36] <Jack_Sparrow> fregor, see also pendrivelinux.com
[18:36] <PalaBoot> ciao
[18:37] <fregor> yea, I did, couldn't find anything about it, but I can scan it some more :) thanks for the tip
[18:37] <titan_> right, im messing about with samba, so far I have set it all up and the other computers on the network can see my computer but they dont have permission to go into my computer, how do i change this
[18:37] <chri2> Pici: is this ubuntu? specific?
[18:37] <fregor> actual install works like a charm tho :D
[18:37] <Pici> chri2: Type /join #web    and no, this is a Freenode channel.
[18:37] <Pici> !freenode | chri2
[18:37] <ubotu> chri2: freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[18:37] <gregory> PalaBoot: ciao, you can also chat in #ubuntu-it
[18:38] <simplexio> titan_: you need to share some folder
[18:38] <chri2> ok, cool. I wish adobe had support channels like Ubuntu lol
[18:38] <Cheesypieces> hi guys, when i plug my headphones into the headphone socket, the sound comes out of the headphones as well as the speakers. any ideas?
[18:38] <titan_> can i not set it to chare a dive instead of a folder
[18:38] <PalaBoot> bye
[18:38] <PedanticSteve> I am trying to disable a trackpad on  my laptop, can anyone give me any pointers?
[18:38] <titan_> share*
[18:38] <Enselic> Does anyone know of a convenient way to combine a and ´?
[18:39] <titan_> i have a 2nd hard drive that i want to share
[18:39] <Enselic> PedanticSteve: some laptops had keyboard commands for that, like me for example I can toggle the touchpad on/off with Fn + F6
[18:39] <tonyyarusso> win 9
[18:39] <Enselic> Cheesypieces: have you tried to adjus the ALSA Mixer settings?
[18:40] <PedanticSteve> Enselic: right, my dad has a HP laptop with a button to disable it.  I have no such option on my keyboard
[18:40] <Cheesypieces> Enselic: no, how do i do that?
[18:41] <Enselic> PedanticSteve: Apllications -> Sound & Video -> GNOME ALSA Mixer
[18:41] <PedanticSteve> Enselic: you mean Cheesypieces, right?
[18:41] <Enselic> PedanticSteve: if you don't have it installed, do   sudo apt-get install gnome-alsamixer
[18:41] <Enselic> um yeah Cheesypieces
[18:42] <DarthBagel> Does anyone have any experience getting the Jolt bootloader (for PIC microcontrollers) working on 7.10?
[18:42] <Enselic> sorry
[18:42] <Cheesypieces> Enselic: lol thanks i'll try that
[18:42] <unicum> PedanticSteve are you trying to totally disable it or do you just wanna disable it while typing?
[18:42] <xs142> Anyone able to tell me why Azureus just won't start anymore? The splash comes up, then for half a second the window is shown and then it just goes *poff
[18:42] <aeleon> how do i grep a process to see if it's running again?
[18:43] <icanhasadmin> aeleon: ps -e | grep "name"
[18:43] <simplexio> titan_: samba home page tells you howto defne share into smb.conf
[18:43] <aeleon> thank you
[18:43] <icanhasadmin> aeleon: well, don't use the quotes lol
[18:43] <balle_> ikonia: well.. i have tried to configure it, and ubuntu says on startup that i can't detect both screen and gfx card
[18:43] <aeleon> yeah, haha.
[18:43] <icanhasadmin> aeleon: -e is also rather simplified, you might want to use ax or aux or auxw for more info
[18:43] <balle_> ikonia: well.. i have tried to configure it, and ubuntu says on startup that i can't detect both screen and gfx card
[18:44] <balle_> sry
[18:44] <PedanticSteve> unicum: Ideally I would disable it when an external mouse is connected...  or have some hotkey to toggle it (so I can turn it on if I dont have an external mouse)
[18:44] <aeleon> oh, and I want to create a script in ubuntu that does stuff when I login. how do i go about that?
[18:44] <thannoy> xs142: Have you tried to launch azureus from a terminal, to see if an error is printed?
[18:44] <xs142> thannoy: How...?
[18:45] <david567> hello
[18:45] <aeleon> hi, david567.
[18:45] <david567> how do i know wich is best for my audio settings, between oss, alsa and the rest?
[18:45] <thannoy> xs142: do  ALT and F2  and enter xterm  (or lauch a terminal somehow), then type azureus and press [enter]
[18:45] <unicum> PedanticSteve sry, i dunno about that but i guess, if u google enough you'll find a script that does it ^^
[18:45] <magnetron> david567: alsa is best.
[18:45] <icanhasadmin> xs142: or use gnome-terminal if you like to scroll :P
[18:46] <Cheesypieces> Enselic: i tried that, but it doesn't seem to make a difference
[18:46] <Cheesypieces> or at least i'm not finding the right option
[18:46] <Enselic> Cheesypieces: probably a driver problem then
[18:46] <david567> magnetron, it probably is, but how do i know if it is the best for my audio card?
[18:46] <xs142> thannoy: Ok I got a lot of text, but it means nothing to me :S
[18:47] <thannoy> !paste | xs142
[18:47] <ubotu> xs142: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[18:47] <magnetron> david567: it is.
[18:47] <balle_> i am having problem loading my nvidia module to properly set my screen settings and external monitor, anybody knows how to load it?
[18:47] <taninomax_> ciao a tutti
[18:47] <david567> magnetron, ok i trust you. where do i set it for default, apart from each single program like totem/xine ecc...
[18:48] <kabads> I have inserted live cd in to new laptop and X doesn't start - how do I initiate the install process from command line?
[18:48] <gregory> taninomax_: ciao  - try also #ubuntu-it
[18:48] <david567> taninomax_: scrivi "/join #ubuntu-it"
[18:48] <david567> senza virgolette
[18:48] <magnetron> david567: system > settings > sound
[18:48] <xs142> thannoy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63335/
[18:49] <kabads> or do I want to start X by changing the config?
[18:51] <kabads> in fact, how do I go about starting X.org? Is it through /etc/init.d/x11-common?
[18:51] <adriano284> hallo
[18:52] <Enselic> kabads: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[18:52] <genii> kabads: /etc/init.d/gdm (gnome/xfce) /etc/init.d/kdm (KDE)
[18:52] <kabads> Enselic: tried that - with an immediate fail - is gdm on the live cd?
[18:52] <Enselic> kabads: oyes
[18:52] <genii> kabads: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart                     for example
[18:52] <Enselic> kabads: try just   Xorg
[18:52] <artenius> kabads: "start x" should work
[18:53] <thannoy> xs142: I am not sure at all about the problem. I will suggest you to reinstall azureus. Do you need some help to do this?
[18:53] <kabads> yay!
[18:53] <StucKman> hi all. I have two almost identical machines, and when X starts, one reads the edid info and sets the resolution all right, but the other one doesn't. both are using feisty's xserver-xorg-video-intel driver
[18:53] <kabads> seems like it's booted - had to change /etc/x11/xorg.conf to vesa driver and it's booted  - now for the install
[18:53] <xs142> thannoy: I Did already reinstall it but I can't seem to get rid of the config file as it doesn't even come up... How do I get rid of it all together?
[18:53] <Stroganoff> crazytalk_ either you setup gdm to launch multiple xservers or you install the little tool etswitch: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8646.html
[18:54] <crazytalk_> #Stroganoff: ty
[18:55] <thannoy> xs142: with synaptic for exemple you have the "complete removal" operation. you can apply it then install. But try to reinstall libgnucrypto-java before.
[18:55] <speedhunt3r> i need some help regarding dependancy issue with libawn.so.0.0.1 and avant-window-navigator, i can't resolve it using apt-get install -f because it says "trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libawn.so.0.0.1', which is also in package libawn-bzr"
[18:56] <speedhunt3r> returns an error
[18:56] <thannoy> xs142: (the complete removal remove config files too, so it was a good think to try the "legacy" removal first)
[18:56] <Metacom> good I want to register this nick but it puts nick private
[18:56] <xs142> thannoy: Where do I find the config files?
[18:56] <balle_> i am having problem loading my nvidia module to properly set my screen settings and external monitor, anybody knows how to load it?
[18:56] <nerdzyboy> Could anyone tell me how to activate direct rendering for an intel X3100 card?  glxinfo | grep render tells me that there is no direct rendering, I am using driver "intel"
[18:57] <Flannel> xs142: You shouldn't delete them manually, but they're usually in /etc (or a subdirectory thereof)
[18:57] <reese> is it possible to install the adobe flash player on a 64bit distro?
[18:57] <xs142> Flannel: Thanks
[18:57] <thannoy> xs142: the config file for azureus (the per-user part) is the directory '.azureus' un your home folder.
[18:58] <thannoy> xs142: (you need to make hidden file viewable to see file beginning with a dot)
[18:58] <gregory> reese: yes, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=341727
[18:59] <PodMan99b> hey all for 7.10 is there a vhost-mysql package for apache?? i cant get it to start says stuff is missing ... anyone used this?
[18:59] <reese> thanks, gregory
[18:59] <scottylad> hi
[18:59] <kabads> what's 60Gb in megabytes?
[18:59] <gregory> PodMan99b: try also #ubuntu-server
[19:00] <gregory> kabads: 60*1024 . channel please correct me if i am wrong
[19:01] <wobblywu> kabads, 60 Gb is 60/8 GB, which is 60/8 * 1024 MB
[19:01] <PodMan99b> also my cpan says "  make had returned bad status, install seems impossible" nothing exciting installed that would affect that just dont work ?
[19:01] <wobblywu> (= 7680)
[19:01] <PodMan99b> thatsf for anything i try to install.... ubuntu 7.190
[19:02] <wobblywu> although officially it would be 60 / 8 * 1000 MB, as we're not talking MiB
[19:02] <kabads> 7168?
[19:02] <kabads> wobblywu: hehe - thanks
[19:02]  * kabads is partitioning freestyle
[19:02] <nerdzyboy> anyone?
[19:03] <nagyv> hello! could someone tell me how can I check if an environment variable is set in the shell?
[19:03] <thannoy> xs142: googling your problem, maybe it is due to you java virtual machine. @see http://stefon.wordpress.com/2007/07/09/azureus-problem/
[19:03] <PodMan99b> nagyv, export??
[19:04] <xs142> thannoy I'll read through it, thanks :)
[19:04] <nagyv> PodMan99b: export would export it, but I want to know if it was defined already (I don't want to overwrite it)
[19:04] <reese> nagyv, echo that variable
[19:04] <artenius> echo $varname
[19:04] <zepalod> hey guys whats the channel for the 8.04 RC installation support/bugs
[19:04] <zepalod> ?
[19:04] <artenius> #ubuntu+1
[19:05] <balle_> i am having problem loading my nvidia module to properly set my screen settings and external monitor, anybody knows how to load it?
[19:05] <zepalod> thought it was another one
[19:05] <artenius> nvidia-settings
[19:06] <nagyv> reese: thanks, I did it with [ -z $MYVAR ]
[19:06] <acomaco> Hmm, how do i remove Sudo rights for a user?
[19:06] <mepis> /ignore #* away
[19:06] <JanPeter> anyone know how to save your settings (i.e. be root) when changing nvidia-settings?
[19:07] <acomaco> nvm found it:)
[19:07] <nathan_> are there certain usb sticks that don't get recognized?
[19:08] <Leteo>  :)
[19:08] <nerdzyboy> Could anyone tell me how to activate direct rendering for an intel X3100 card?  glxinfo | grep render tells me that there is no direct rendering, I am using driver "intel"
[19:09] <Stroganoff> nerdzyboy are you using the latest kernel? run uname -a
[19:09] <nerdzyboy> 2.6.22-14-generic
[19:09] <Hexzone> hi
[19:10] <Stroganoff> ok then it should be supported out of the box. i have no clue. is it a laptop?
[19:10] <nerdzyboy> yeah
[19:10] <Stroganoff> elaborate
[19:10] <thannoy> acomaco: I think by remove the user from groups marked in /etc/sudoers as allowed for sudo. (group name sudo or admin I don't remember)
[19:11] <nerdzyboy> its an hp dv2828 intel x3100, 3gb ram, 1.8ghz core2duo running xfce
[19:12] <sap>  Hi, anyone using Ekiga?  I'm having problems with its configuration
[19:12] <mouli> guys i have a prob while installing a ubuntu on a hp laptop
[19:12] <nerdzyboy> I'm using the "intel driver" which is what was configured by default, I also tried the i810 driver but that didnt work
[19:12] <mouli> can u guys help me out on this
[19:12] <nerdzyboy> mouli, so do I...
[19:13] <Stroganoff> nerdzyboy: i cant find anything about "hp dv2828" on google, are you sure that this is the model name?
[19:13] <mw-home> Can anyone recommend an app that makes reading syslogs fun?
[19:13] <mouli> rt now installed slackware and then shifed to debian rt now
[19:13] <nerdzyboy> its hpdv2828ca
[19:13] <nerdzyboy> it from the dv2700 line
[19:13] <Stroganoff> !alternate | mouli
[19:13] <ubotu> mouli: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[19:13] <balle_> anybody knows how i can re/load my nvidia driver? i need it becuase my resolution and special effects are really messed up
[19:14] <mouli> thank u
[19:14] <killAnig> what/where is COMMON_CONFIG
[19:15] <killAnig> COMMON_CONFIG, anyone?
[19:15] <killAnig> for a dollar?
[19:16] <nerdzyboy> Stroganoff: see http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10100073&catid=20354&test%5Fcookie=1
[19:17] <genii> killAnig: Look in your ./configure file or Makefile  etc
[19:17] <killAnig> Im using apt though!
[19:18] <genii> killAnig: Trying to install some foreign deb file?
[19:18] <killAnig> nope
[19:18] <killAnig> just trying to configure php5 to use PCNTL
[19:18] <genii> killAnig: In that case look here instead http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214739
[19:19] <killAnig> Im reading that thread
[19:19] <killAnig> it says "edit COMMON_CONFIG"
[19:19] <killAnig> but I have no idea what COMMON_CONFIG is
[19:19] <killAnig> hence..
[19:19] <jtld> Running Communigate on Ubuntu and getting the following Error in Outlook: “There was an error locating one of the items needed to complete this operation. It might have been deleted” this is when trying to add a MAPI connection. I have seen posts in google of people having a similar problem in exchange but those fixes haven't helped.
[19:19] <iclebyte> got an interesting question.. a friend of mine has just installed ubuntu. he has his networking configured correctly because he can ping say www.google.com but when he tries to update his packages synaptic just hangs. i got him to try apt-get update and the same thing happens. i copied my working sources.list file over to /etc/apt/ and still no go... any ideas?..
[19:19] <killAnig> "cd php5-5.1.6/debian/"  ??
[19:20] <killAnig> after using apit
[19:20] <genii> killAnig: COMMON_CONFIG is a section to edit within the rules file they describe
[19:20] <killAnig> ahhh
[19:20] <jtld> iclebyte: what version of ubuntu is he running?
[19:20] <iclebyte> gutsy gibbon i believe
[19:20] <killAnig> /usr/share/gnome-games/blackjack/rules
[19:20] <killAnig> those rules?
[19:21] <PedanticSteve> iclebyte: is your friend connecting to the internet through a proxy?
[19:21] <mikebot> Has anyone here ever used httrack?
[19:21] <balle_> !nvidia
[19:21] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:21] <iclebyte> no, its a direct connection.
[19:21] <zepalod> iclebyte: when u make apt-get update, can u do a ping during it trys to find the srces?
[19:21] <phitau> Hello everyone. I was wonder if this is possible: I have a laptop that supports bootup from a USB port. Now, would is be possible to connect a double ended USB cable from one PC to to laptop while PC simulates a filesystem of ubuntu-install-disc.iso? In further detail, the PC acts like it's a bootable USB disk with a linux install distro on it.
[19:21] <iclebyte> zepalod, i dont know.. but if it pings anyway then why should it not ping while trying to do an apt-get update ?
[19:22] <genii> killAnig: No, that would be the rules file for blackjack under gnome
[19:22] <crazytalk_> i can see gwget is running because the file i resumed is growing in size on my desktop (i have properties window open) but the wget icon isn't on my menubar beside clock, there's no panel on my taskbar, and i cannot access it via ctrl-alt-tab
[19:22] <crazytalk_> how do i bring the gui back up?
[19:22] <PedanticSteve> iclebyte: ok,  I once had a problem because my proxy didnt support HTTP pipilining, which APT used be defualt (when I was on Debian, at least).  I had to switch to FTP to get it to work
[19:22] <Draggin> Evening again :)  I don't know if I should ask here or somewhere else...  I can't seem to be able to install any new skins/themes in Audacious...  You're supposed to just drag them into the preferences box, right?
[19:22] <zepalod> iclebyte: i had this problem because of some bad dns entrys from my local router
[19:22] <zepalod> iclebyte: when is did a ping during it, it could resolve the hostnames
[19:23] <unop> iclebyte, what exactly happens when you do - sudo apt-get update ?  can you paste the output of the command ?
[19:23] <iclebyte> zepalod, odd.. what was the solution?
[19:23] <jtld> iclebyte: try doing a dns look-up to the mirror in the sources.lst file
[19:23] <iclebyte> unop, nope, doing phone support =)
[19:23] <jtld> I would also manually set the resolv.conf file to use 4.2.2.5 as this dns server reaches the mirrors for sure.
[19:24] <zepalod> iclebyte: i declined any dns hosts from my router, but thats a dhcpd config thingy, just give it a try if its that problem
[19:24] <stalker314314> i install nvidia driver from init 3, restart X and everything is fine. After restart, ubuntu put me in 800x640. What am I doing wrong?
[19:24] <unop> iclebyte, can they ping the mirrors apt is trying to download from?
[19:24] <iclebyte> unop, yep, checked that
[19:24] <nerdzyboy> Stroganoff: The only thing that I forgot to mention is that I updated to this kernel, could this cause any problem?
[19:25] <iclebyte> can anyone give me an ftp repo to try?
[19:25] <unop> iclebyte, can they download files off of the mirror? wget or even browse to the urls with firefox or something?
[19:25] <matteo1990> ma
[19:25] <unop> iclebyte, i could give you a repo, but it might not be the same mirror that they are using, so it's not worth stabbing away in the dark
[19:26] <hwilde> why don't you just put a hostname mapping ubuntu.com (91.189.94.158)
[19:26] <hwilde> then you don't need dns
[19:26] <aeleon> Ok, so I've even made my ubuntu  server a dmz, but yet when my vpn is running, port checkers still say some ports are closed.
[19:26] <xonny88> something extremely weird happens to me.. when i download: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz
[19:26] <tureseDOC> n.net
[19:26] <unop> hwilde, because the record is likely to change and then you'll find yourself having the same problem later on
[19:26] <xonny88> when i download that, the file gets bigger than it is originally
[19:27] <dmsuperman_> xonny88: you mean after you extract it?
[19:27] <genii> xonny88: And likely is named only boot.img   I imagine
[19:27] <alain> part
[19:27] <alain> quit
[19:27] <erUSUL> alain: put a / in fron of irc commands
[19:27] <dmsuperman_> xonny88: that's the point, the downloaded file is small to make it quicker, then you extract for the file image. unless i'm not getting what you're saying
[19:27] <uyriry686> www.HOTTIES4FREE.tk XXX BRUNETTES
[19:27] <genii> erUSUL: Beat me to it ;)
[19:28] <SeddaN> hello:)
[19:28] <Reinalds> Hi, I have a cd of ubuntu here, I want to install it, but I now that (for me), it is instable, something always happens to me, like that my wobbling windows disappears, or something like that, I want to know why it happend so I can feel safe while doing things with my linux system
[19:28] <genii> Thanks jussi01
[19:28] <stalker314314> what part of ubuntu is not reading xorg.conf (nvidia module) and using vesa constantly (found out in Xorg log)?
[19:28] <matteo1990>  /join #python
[19:28] <wrathchild510> whois j_5
[19:29] <dmsuperman_> Reinalds: that won't happen unless you reconfigure something, which may happen if you just start running things or installing things without knowing more about them
[19:29] <dmsuperman_> Reinalds: but otherwise it won't change things like that automatically
[19:29] <iclebyte> unop, i just got him to try. he can still ping www.google.com while the apt-get update command hangs..
[19:29] <SeddaN>  bye all,
[19:29] <iclebyte> and firefox etc works fine..
[19:30] <iclebyte> this one has me stumped..
[19:30] <Reinalds> dmsuperman_: Well, I just started up my system, and then the things where disabled, and then I couldn't change back :(
[19:30] <dmsuperman_> Reinalds: then you reconfigured something, it didn't happen by itself
[19:30] <dmsuperman_> Reinalds: whether you meant to or not
[19:30] <stalker314314> is there any specific channel about graphics since no one answers me about simple begginer nvidia questions?
[19:30] <Reinalds> dmsuperman_: But why couldn't I change back then?
[19:30] <xonny88> dmsuperman my downloading speed is 11 kbps... when it reaches to 7.5 mb (the file is supossed to have that size, according to the link i posted) I end up downloading a 200 mb file (it would get bigger if i let it going on) which is impossible because my downloading speed is 11 kbps
[19:31] <unop> iclebyte, hangs, at what point exactly - it's really no good attempting to guess when what we really need is the output of the command there -- get him to paste what he sees into the !pastebin here
[19:31] <unop> !pastebin | iclebyte
[19:31] <ubotu> iclebyte: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:31] <nagyv> I'm trying to write a shell udev rule, but seemingly it's run before the device get mounted. How can I solve this?
[19:31] <dmsuperman_> Reinalds: you can, just not using whatever you're trying. what particularly are you trying to enable and how?
[19:31] <acomaco> How do i list/remove old apt-get source keys?
[19:32] <dmsuperman_> Wobbly windows? Did you change window managers, or install/modify any drivers, or mess with xorg.conf?
[19:32] <xonny88> where can I download a bootdisk for installing ubuntu??
[19:32] <dmsuperman_> xonny88: from ubuntu's website
[19:32] <xonny88> i get error from there :S
[19:32] <nerdzyboy> can anyone tell me how to enable direct rendering?
[19:32] <dmsuperman_> xonny88: try various torrent websites
[19:32] <danand> acomaco - apt-key ?
[19:32] <ubuntu__> anyone can help me make bootloader like booting into 2 OS?
[19:32] <dmsuperman_> xonny88: i'm sure thepiratebay.org has a decent ubuntu torrent going
[19:32] <Reinalds> dmsuperman_: I was trying to enable the extra effects or something, but it would still go to normal, and I couldn't change things in compiz
[19:32] <yedday> hi, how can I change my screen name in pidgen using the protocol msn?
[19:32] <PedanticSteve> acomaco: system -> administration -> software sources.  look under the authentication tab
[19:33] <yedday> because that doesn't work, the field is gray
[19:33] <iclebyte> unop, lemme see what i can do =)
[19:33] <dmsuperman_> Reinalds: and the answers to my other questions?
[19:33] <dmsuperman_> !grub | ubuntu__
[19:33] <ubotu> ubuntu__: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:33] <Bishmarck> help pls
[19:33] <psycardis> Hi, I know wine has it's own irc room but, they aren't talking...
[19:33] <psycardis> I'm trying to use wine, but it keeps reassigning my drive mappings
[19:33] <amenado> nagyv-> where are you inserting that rule at?
[19:34] <Bishmarck> i want to know how i can make dual boot for my other OS
[19:34] <amenado> Bishmarck-> what is your other OS ?
[19:34] <Frozenball> It does it pretty much automaticly
[19:34] <dmsuperman_> Bishmarck: grub is almost always the best choice for dual booting
[19:34] <dmsuperman_> !grub
[19:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[19:35] <yedday> how to change screenname in msn in pidgen? this doesn't work, the field is greyd out under Tools/Settings
[19:35] <nephilim> ﻿hello all I am seeing if exhaile can replace amarok... but I cant seem to find a tray icon setting for it... help?
[19:36] <dmsuperman_> yedday: create a new account, if anything
[19:36] <superactive> Hello, I've tried google but now I'm turning for help here....... I'm installing Envy wich has python-central as it's dependencies but I havn't figured out how to download an install python, anyone?
[19:36] <Reinalds> dmsuperman_: oh, sorry, I was trying to enable the wobbling windows and such nice effects but I couldn't. And this thing has happened to my friends computer to
[19:36] <dmsuperman_> Reinalds: right, like i said though. What did you do as far as editing xorg.conf, modifying/installing drivers, updating anything, before you rebooted?
[19:36] <psycardis> superactive go to synaptic package manager and search for python-central
[19:36] <yedday> dmsuperman that is not a solution, I could change screenname back in kde using kopete!!
[19:37] <yedday> it stayed the last setting of when I changed it using kopete
[19:37] <dmsuperman_> nephilim: If anything, try alltray. Exaile is certainly better than amarok though
[19:37] <Paper> Technoviking himself came among us !
[19:37] <nagyv> amenado: this is what I do http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63342/
[19:37] <nagyv> the command is run, but probably still too early
[19:37] <superactive> psycardis: where would I find that?
[19:37] <Technoviking> Paper: lol
[19:37] <nephilim> dmsuperman: alltray doesnt work with compiz :(
[19:37] <dmsuperman_> yedday: don't yell, if you can't get something to work generally the best solution is to flush it and start again. you may have to disable your account before you can change it, or if it is enable it. i'm not too familiar with changing my screenname
[19:37] <dmsuperman_> nephilim: works for me and i uze compiz
[19:38] <Bishmarck> well how do i use the command in the terminal to make dual boot using grub
[19:38] <psycardis> superactive: system, administration
[19:38] <Reinalds> dmsuperman_: I don't remember that I did anything, but I think that my ATI Radeon x1650series G-card is not so greatly compatible with linux, but a guy here helped me so the nice effects would work..
[19:38] <dmsuperman_> Bishmarck: sudo grub
[19:38] <nephilim> dmsuperman: hmmm tyvm
[19:38] <Bishmarck> thanks!!
[19:38] <dmsuperman_> nephilim: no prob
[19:38] <Hammer89> is there a way to upgrade to 8.04 from the terminal in 7.10? I tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade... but told me that was an invalid operation
[19:38] <abelabel> Hi, I'm trying to play a quicktime 7 stream; I have installed everything that seemed relevant in Synaptic but can't get it to work. Is Wine the only option? The stream in question is http://www.berlage-institute.nl/01_hotnews/stream.mov
[19:38] <yedday> dmsuperman I just think, this is a bug, why should one NOT be able to change his screen name at any time? I mean, it really works, using kopete
[19:38] <amenado> nagyv-> where are you inserting that rule at?
[19:38] <dmsuperman_> Reinalds: then it's above me, I'm a nvidia only guy and I only hear bad things about ATI in linux
[19:38] <Reinalds> dmsuperman_: And I am from windows, so I cant edit shit in linux systems without help
[19:38] <Bishmarck> lol unrecognized command dmsuperman
[19:39] <yedday> dmsuperman I found it
[19:39] <dmsuperman_> yedday: I'm not sure
[19:39] <nagyv> amenado: at /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rule
[19:39] <yedday> dmsuperman it's the option: "Set friendly name"...
[19:39] <yedday> pretty well hidden there
[19:39] <dmsuperman_> Bishmarck: i think you have to boot from a recovery cd, i'm not 100% sure you can install grub to the current partition
[19:39] <superactive> psycardis: I can't mark if for instaltion
[19:39] <amenado> nagyv-> ill take a peek
[19:39] <psycardis> superactive: was the box unchecked? does it give you an error?
[19:39] <Reinalds> dmsuperman_: ok, but I think I will try to install it anyway, and if I manage to get some problems I will search here for an answer
[19:39] <Hewet> can ubuntu be installed to FAT32?
[19:40] <Bishmarck> yes im using live @ this time but how do i run ubuntu that is installed in my hd
[19:40] <iclebyte> unop, he left synaptic package manager open while he did apt-get update, but regardless check out the no route to host errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63341/
[19:40] <superactive> psycardis: the box next to it is just light green and now check'd
[19:40] <dmsuperman_> Bishmarck: google "ubuntu livecd grub" and the first result will help
[19:41] <superactive> says it's install'd
[19:41] <dmsuperman_> Bishmarck: it's on ubuntuforums
[19:41] <Bishmarck> thanks
[19:41] <superactive> but I still can't install envy
[19:42] <psycardis> superactive: are you running hardy or gutsy?
[19:42] <Pici> !envy | superactive
[19:42] <ubotu> superactive: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[19:42] <iclebyte> i cant even do a reserve ssh tunnel because he cant install openssh-server!
[19:42] <tpp> Ubuntu seems to be ignoring my xorg.conf - I put in modelines, but when I look at the log it doesn't even try them. It just tries the defaults. I'm using the 'intel' driver.
[19:42] <superactive> psycardis: I don't even know what that is xD
[19:43] <nephilim> dmsuperman: thanks again.... I was really sad that alltray didnt work with compiz... now it does :D :D you just made my freakin day, sir.
[19:43] <psycardis> superactive: click system, about ubuntu I need to know what version you're running
[19:44] <cami-chan> Hello :) I've played around with Gutsys GL Desktop, Water effect, and somehow my screen is now negative :O What can I do to turn It back to normal?
[19:44] <superactive> psycardis: where would that say? -- btw sorry for being an complete artard
[19:45] <psycardis> cami: windows + m
[19:46] <cami-chan> psycardis: Thanks a lot m8 :D You are my savior :D
[19:46] <PedanticSteve> cami-chan: if Windows+M doesnt work, try Windows+N
[19:46] <psycardis> superactive: in that window it should say something like Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu 8.04 - the Hardy Heron - released in April 2008.
[19:46] <cami-chan> PedanticSteve: Thanks a lot :)
[19:46] <fiXXXerMet> ﻿Hi everyone.  I was trying to install ubuntu server and it got to the boot loader step.  Both GRUB and LILO were unable to install.   I went ahead and completed the installation, but now how can I install grub so that I can boot my system?
[19:46] <psycardis> cami: i had the same problem luckily i remember the last buttons i pushed
[19:46] <superactive>                 - the Gutsy Gibbon - released in October 2007.
[19:46] <sudobash> fiXXXermet use SuperGrub Disk
[19:46] <sudobash> SGD
[19:46] <Mikeee> let's say I've changed from a SATA DVD-drive to an IDE DVD-drive, what do I do in order to get udev to generate the /dev/dvd link correctly (rebooting doesn't help)?
[19:46] <fiXXXerMet> sudobash: What's that do?
[19:47] <Sijmes> Hello
[19:47] <sudobash> allows you to boot linux with out grub or lilo installed
[19:47] <psycardis> superactive: ok, just a sec, it's been a while since I installed envy on my gutsy machine
[19:47] <gregory> Hewet: it seems to be no, see paragraph 2 at https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/non-debian-partitioning.html
[19:47] <sudobash> without it you will have a hard time booting it
[19:47] <fiXXXerMet> sudobash: So after I boot the system, I can then install grub?
[19:47] <sudobash> well SGD will also let you isntall either
[19:48] <Sijmes> anyone know why rythmnbox doenst see my mp3 player since i updated to heron beta ...?
[19:48] <sudobash> and it will let you boot windows and can also repair MBR
[19:48] <neohaven> ok, can anyone help me understand how the hell I could get a multi-monitor setup running on Ubuntu?
[19:48] <sudobash> an all around good cd...
[19:48] <gregory> Sijmes: try #ubuntu+1
[19:48] <cami-chan> Hello again :) I'm trying to compile ndiswrapper from source and I have to type in this line in the console: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r" but after I hit enter it just shows me ">" and nothing else :S Any ideas?
[19:48] <Sijmes> thnx
[19:48] <Hewet> gregory: hmm they don't state it clearly there, do they?
[19:48] <sudobash> I have Ubuntu Live CD, SGD, and Gparted burned at all times
[19:49] <sudobash> along with Back|Track3
[19:49] <cami-chan> Np got it working :D
[19:49] <Mikeee> cami-chan: you're missing a `
[19:49] <psycardis> superactive: did you download the .deb from http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html ?
[19:49] <danand> Mikeee - you need to look at your udev rules - /etc/udev/rules.d. You may find you need to add a rule for your new device. KERNEL=="hdc", SYMLINK+="cdrom dvd"
[19:49] <gregory> Hewet: as i understand it the ubuntu installer can resize ("shrink") an existing fat32 partition, but just to make way for a linux partition, which is usually ext2 or ext3
[19:50] <kakoonia> Hey
[19:50] <kakoonia> Is there internet Explorer for Ubuntu?
[19:50] <nephilim> dmsuperman: lol i guess there was an option for a tray icon after all (doh-nuts) but thanks ror the red hot tip that alltray now works with copmiz...
[19:50] <cami-chan> Mikeee: Thanks ;) I found out :)
[19:50] <superactive> I downloaded the EnvyCore
[19:50] <kakoonia> !IE
[19:50] <ubotu> For Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidiú Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Béag fáilte ort
[19:50] <superactive> EnvyNG-Core
[19:50] <sudobash> for resizing of any patition i would used the Gparted Live CD... that is what Ubuntu uses gparted
[19:50] <sudobash> but it has it's on 50 mb live cd
[19:50] <Stroganoff> kakoonia: www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/
[19:50] <psycardis> superactive: you needed to download the envy legacy becuase you're running gutsy
[19:50] <kakoonia> Stroganoff : Thanks
[19:50] <superactive> psycardis: I installed the EnvyNG-Core, or atleast tried
[19:51] <Mikeee> danand: are those files generated by the installer normally?
[19:51] <Mikeee> danand: and does "70-persistent-cd.rules" sound about right?
[19:51] <Sijmes> join  #ubuntu+1
[19:52] <gregory> Sijmes: /join #ubuntu+1
[19:52] <Sijmes> join #ubuntu+1
[19:52] <gregory> Sijmes: /join #ubuntu+1
[19:52] <Sijmes> sob :-(
[19:52] <Nutzebahn> Hi.
[19:53] <psycardis> superactive: envyNG-core isn't compatible with gutsy
[19:53] <neohaven> ok, can anyone help me understand how the hell I could get a multi-monitor setup running on Ubuntu? As in a dual-head config?
[19:53] <Nutzebahn> Does anyone know of any free fingerprint reader programs for Linux?
[19:53] <superactive> darn!
[19:53] <sudobash> neohaven it is all in the xorg.conf file
[19:53] <psycardis> neohaven: dual graphics cards
[19:53] <Sijmes>  /join #ubuntu+1
[19:53] <superactive> I was hoping that I could be able to play WC3 and WoW
[19:53] <sudobash> do you have dual monitor output on your vid card?
[19:53] <sudobash> at the same time?
[19:54] <Mikeee> danand: got it, it's obviously more about removing the (now stale) entries
[19:54] <neohaven> psycardis, sudobash: I have QUAD output. but they are just clones. I would like them to be extended desktop
[19:54] <sudobash> you want to play WarCraft 3 and WOW and the same time?
[19:54] <danand> Mikeee - yes...but I ran into a similar problem when i swapped a dvd drive for a dvdrw drive. That persistent-cd.rules file meant that /dev/dvd was reserved for my old drive... the new one got named to /dev/dvd1 which caused me a bit of grief. I got rid of the persistent rules file and just made a new rule file for my dvd and cdrw
[19:54] <DarkLordVenom> WoW doesn't benefit too terribly much from dual video cards their engine is not that optimized
[19:54] <superactive> sudobash: ofc not! :)
[19:54] <psycardis> superactive: just co back to the website and download envy legacy
[19:54] <superactive> psycardis: I have
[19:54] <neohaven> I run 4 screens under OS X and Windows. I just want to know how I would do the same under Ubuntu. :)
[19:54] <sudobash> well the dual monitor config is all done in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:55] <psycardis> superactive: did that one install corectly?
[19:55] <superactive> says I need the Gutsy Gibbon CD
[19:55] <superactive> I posted that to you in prv
[19:55] <neohaven> sudobash: no GUI assistant for that?
[19:55] <sudobash> but i would back it up and also read a tut or wiki or something
[19:55] <neohaven> nasty.
[19:55] <sudobash> yes
[19:55] <Mikeee> danand: thanks a lot
[19:55] <danand> Mikeee - as long as you know the block dev name, you can create those rules pretty easy.
[19:55] <Nutzebahn> Does anyone know of any free fingerprint reader programs for Linux?
[19:55] <Boohbah> superactive: remove the CD line from your sources.list
[19:55] <neohaven> sudobash: then where is it?
[19:55] <danand> Mikeee - np
[19:55] <TuxPWNZ> Does someone knows a good application for pimping the desktop panel?
[19:55] <sudobash> there are frontends but it is best to take care or everything yourself so you can get it like you want it
[19:55] <BigFish> hello, I have a little problem with my ts, I have sound, but people can't heard me...
[19:55] <sudobash> research through google?
[19:56] <DarkLordVenom> TuxPWNZ: try gnome-look.org
[19:56] <Boohbah> BigFish: i had that problem too...
[19:56] <superactive> Boohbah: Where would I find that?
[19:56] <Boohbah> BigFish: with ventrilo on wine
[19:56] <DarkLordVenom> TuxPWNZ: also you could search for Emerald
[19:56] <neohaven> sudobash: so, backup xorg.conf and try stuff till it works?
[19:56] <neohaven> sudobash: fun. :/
[19:56] <sudobash> not exactly
[19:56] <Boohbah> superactive: /etc/apt/sources.list  - comment out the line that refers to an install CD
[19:56] <BigFish> I use alsa-oss, and I use the bosst misc, but nothing
[19:56] <sudobash> you will want to know what you are doing before you start testing things
[19:56] <psycardis> neohaven what driver are you running
[19:56] <neohaven> sudobash: ok
[19:56] <user1> Could not load the Host USB Proxy Service (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND). The service might be not installed on the host computer.a using vbox
[19:57] <neohaven> psycardis: fglrx, but that's irrelevant
[19:57] <sudobash> especially when it comes to horiz and vert refresh rates and ranges and such
[19:57] <psycardis> how do you send private messages
[19:57] <dmsuperman_> psycardis: /notice USER MESSAGE
[19:57] <cami-chan> Hello :) Can anyone help with my Firefox? All the text in the menus have turned unreadable (grey as the background). I've tried changing theme but it doesn't help :S I'm using Gutsy (7,10)
[19:57] <superactive> psycardis: Double click my name
[19:57] <sudobash> you can mess your monitor up if you give it the wrong refresh/vert/horiz ranges
[19:58] <Boohbah> superactive: so... you're trying to play WoW.. and get a new driver with envyng ?
[19:58] <superactive> yeah
[19:58] <superactive> following this guide I found on the internet
[19:58] <guguu> hi, i'm ubuntu (and linux) n00b. i installed ubuntu today and drivers as well. i have ati x1950 pro, but i can't enable dekstop effects
[19:58] <Boohbah> superactive: so envy is working out for you?
[19:58] <guguu> i know thats quite common problem, but i can't figure that myself
[19:58] <sudobash> this is just an example but it is for BSD dont use it: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-May/087929.html
[19:59] <superactive> Boohbah: I'm trying to install it
[19:59] <sudobash> but see how it has settings for two monitors
[19:59] <cami-chan> Hello :) Can anyone help with my Firefox? All the text in the menus have turned unreadable (grey as the background). I've tried changing theme but it doesn't help :S I'm using Gutsy (7,10)
[19:59] <neohaven> sudobash: I won't toy with multiple resolutions. i'll just add a second display with the same spec than my first.
[19:59] <sudobash> neohaven: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&hs=xjV&q=dual+monitor+xorg+config+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[19:59] <dudeeee34> hello
[19:59] <dudeeee34> i need help
[19:59] <superactive> Boohbah: Is this the line I should Comment? deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/ gutsy main restricted
[19:59] <sudobash> whats up dudeee34
[20:00] <Boohbah> superactive: yes
[20:00] <dudeeee34> i am new to ubuntu and would like to listen to my mp3s
[20:00] <ssn> hi
[20:00] <Boohbah> !mp3
[20:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:00] <dudeeee34> but the music player wont let me
[20:00] <superactive> Boohbah: I did, but it wouldn't let me
[20:00] <cami-chan> dudeee34: Download VLC from synapic
[20:00] <Nith> mp3's are a restricted format?
[20:00] <sudobash> dude333334.... go to terminal and type: sudo apt-get install vlc xmms
[20:00] <superactive> Boohbah: You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[20:00] <guguu> when i write to terminal " SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz", it says /usr/bin/compiz: 224: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[20:00] <cami-chan> dudeeee3: Download VLC from Synaptic
[20:00] <sudobash> and you will be able to play them and more with both
[20:00] <gregory> Nith: in some countries yes
[20:00] <ssn> does anyone know how to play external audio files (to a video) with vlc?
[20:00] <Boohbah> superactive: sudo?
[20:00] <guguu> is there a solution to get those desktop effects to work
[20:01] <superactive> can I do that in X?
[20:01] <cami-chan> Hello :) Can anyone help with my Firefox? All the text in the menus have turned unreadable (grey as the background). I've tried changing theme but it doesn't help :S I'm using Gutsy (7,10)
[20:01] <danand> dudeeee34 - also consider mp32ogg for converting mp3's to patent free (and better) ogg vorbis codec :)
[20:01] <ssn> does anyone know how to play external audio files (to a video) with vlc?
[20:01] <scudDA> hi, i need some help with "unresolvable dependencies"
[20:01] <user1> Could not load the Host USB Proxy Service (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND). The service might be not installed on the host computer.a  using ubuntu, virtualbox
[20:01] <DarkLordVenom> cami-chan: you could try backing up the information in your ~/.mozilla and then delete that to reset your firefox
[20:01] <superactive> Boohbah: got it to save now, thanks
[20:01] <cami-chan> DarkLordVenom: Thanks a lot :D
[20:01] <Nith> cami-chan: If you don't mind loosing all your bookmarks and settings, you can remove or rename ~/.mozilla
[20:02] <Boohbah> superactive: i've played wow on linux before, so let me know if you have any questions :)
[20:02] <dudeeee34> also i try to install something using the add and remove manager and it gives me this
[20:02] <dudeeee34> Click on 'Reload' to load it. To reload the list you need a working internet connection
[20:02] <dudeeee34> i click reload
[20:02] <dudeeee34> and it dosent do anything
[20:03] <scudDA> I'm trying to install support for .wav files, but I can't install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad because libgsm1 and libmpcdec3 are "not installable"
[20:03] <ariqs> I woulda swore the ubuntu countdown said 10 days 3 days ago and now it says 9 days
[20:03] <ssn> gibts denn echt keinen anderen player der das kann?
[20:03] <jaypeeaf> hello all
[20:03] <jaypeeaf> i have a quick question
[20:03] <jaypeeaf> i accidently went through the directions to install compiz fusion on feisty
[20:03] <danand> user1 - are you using ubuntu as your host os? also if you installed virtual box from ubuntu's repo's then usb support is unfortunately disabled. You may choose to download and install the non free version from innoteks site instead
[20:03] <jaypeeaf> but i currently have gutsy
[20:03] <D3> I need help with the Ubuntu 8.04 Beta, I burnt the ISO to a CD and used it as a Live CD, but when Ubuntu booted up, it said that it couldn't load up "X Server" or something along those lines
[20:03] <tiax> well ariqs it's 24th and has been for a while ;)
[20:03] <abelabel> !quicktime
[20:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:04] <danand> user1 - that has usb support
[20:04] <jaypeeaf> am i completely screwed?
[20:04] <gregory> D3: /join #ubuntu+1
[20:04] <user1> danand yes. i use puel on ubuntu.
[20:04] <stefg> !hardy | d3
[20:04] <ubotu> d3: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:04] <jaypeeaf> how do i undo the install for compiz on feisty
[20:04] <jaypeeaf> so i can do it right with gutsy?
[20:04] <dudeeee34> can anyone help me
[20:04] <D3> Ok
[20:04] <dudeeee34> ?
[20:04] <D3> Thank you
[20:04] <DarkLordVenom> jaypeeaf: sudo apt-get remove compiz
[20:04] <scudDA> jaypeeaf: You're probably OK.
[20:04] <jaypeeaf> ok
[20:04] <jaypeeaf> so just type that in
[20:04] <jaypeeaf> and then go through the directions for gutsy?
[20:04] <DarkLordVenom> in a terminal
[20:04] <Boohbah> danand: do you have virtualbox working? i had problems with the vboxdrv module
[20:05] <DarkLordVenom> jaypeeaf: sure
[20:05] <dudeeee34> i try to get programs from add and remove but when i click on something it gives me this Click on 'Reload' to load it. To reload the list you need a working internet connection
[20:05] <superactive> Boohbah: I've downloaded the package now
[20:05] <dudeeee34> i click reload and nothing happens
[20:05] <superactive> but where's the file? not in /etc
[20:05] <jaypeeaf> rog...lemme give it a shot
[20:05] <superactive> so I can prompt the installer
[20:05] <scudDA>  I'm trying to install support for .wav files, but I can't install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad because libgsm1 and libmpcdec3 are "not installable"
[20:05] <psycardis> dudeee: click reload and let it sit, it might take a few min. to download all the repos
[20:05] <Boohbah> superactive: downloaded which package?
[20:06] <superactive> the envy one
[20:06] <dudeeee34> i click reload
[20:06] <dudeeee34> and it finsihes and i click on the thing again
[20:06] <dudeeee34> and it dose the same thing
[20:06] <Boohbah> superactive: you didn't 'sudo apt-get install envyng' ?
[20:06] <DarkLordVenom> have you modified your software repositories that you're using?
[20:06] <scudDA> dudeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee: does it give you any error messages about not finding repositories?
[20:06] <superactive> no I got it from the site
[20:06] <dudeeee34> no
[20:06] <pagoda> you know the ctrl+shift+u thing to enter unicode characters?  is there a way to input the decimal number instead of the hex number?  i have the dec #'s memorized already.
[20:06] <dudeeee34> it just says
[20:07] <dudeeee34> list of applications unavailible
[20:07] <psycardis> superactive:  http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html download it from there to your desktop and run it
[20:07] <danand> Boohbah - yes. virtualbox ran ok for me. I'm running 7.10 and the free open source virtual box from the ubuntu repositories. Installing freebsd gave me a few probs though..... there is a workaround though...
[20:07] <palomer> hello
[20:07] <stintage> I need help
[20:07] <palomer> how do I watch my avi files on a dvd player?
[20:07] <psycardis> dudeeee34: is that machine on the internet?
[20:07] <dudeeee34> yea
[20:07] <dudeeee34> of course
[20:07] <superactive> psycardis: didn't I just do that?
[20:07] <scudDA> dudeeeee: this is add/remove, yes? Have you tried system>admin>synaptec package manager?
[20:08] <dudeeee34> ill try it
[20:08] <Na-Fiann> Hi, I installed transmission 1.11 from a deb of getdeb, but aptitude keeps saying transmission-gtk is unused and wants to remove it. how can I tell it to keep the package?
[20:08] <tiax> palomer: depends, some dvd players can play .avi files, depending on what's inside. AVI is only a container format. But the safest bet would be to burn it as a video cd
[20:08] <Boohbah> danand: which kernel version? i am on hardy with kernel 2.6.24-16-generic and i'm guessing the vboxdrv module is not compatible
[20:08] <psycardis> superactive: ok, and did that file install ok?
[20:08] <DarkLordVenom> !avi > palomer
[20:08] <palomer> my dvd plyaer can't read avi files
[20:08] <scudDA> stintage: just ask your questoin
[20:08] <superactive> don't know
[20:08] <superactive> i did install the package
[20:08] <superactive> but no installer was prompt'd
[20:09] <psycardis> ok, click applications, system tools see if envy is in there
[20:09] <scudDA> how do I add .wav file handling to gutsy?
[20:09] <superactive> yes it was :)
[20:09] <danand> Boohbah - 2.6.22-14-generic. Have you tried installing the version on innoteks site?
[20:09] <gregory> palomer: this might be helpful: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-convert-AVI-to-DVD-54418.shtml
[20:10] <jaypeeaf> okay uninstalled all compiz parts
[20:10] <psycardis> superactive: then you have it, just run it and let it install the driver then reboot
[20:10] <jaypeeaf> tried to add "emerald"
[20:10] <jaypeeaf> says libemeraldengine is not going ot be installed
[20:10] <jaypeeaf> but that it depends
[20:10] <jaypeeaf> also libwnk18
[20:10] <jaypeeaf> any other way to install emerald?
[20:10] <superactive> psycarids, Boohbah: THANKS ALOT
[20:10] <psycardis> superactive: no problem
[20:11] <scudDA> anyone know how to get gutsy to play .wav files?
[20:11] <kindofabuzz_> how can i get back on kindofabuzz and not kindofabuzz_?  it says kindofabuzz is in use.  i've logged and relogged 50 times
[20:12] <psycardis> scudDA: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359375
[20:12] <scudDA> kindofabuzz: try /nick kindofabuzz to change your name. BUt if it's taken, it's taken...
[20:12] <DarkLordVenom> kindofabuzz_: you can register your name with the NickServ
[20:12] <kindofabuzz_> but it's mine, i have it registerd
[20:12] <kindofabuzz_> it is registered
[20:12] <DJones> !ghost | kindofabuzz_
[20:12] <ubotu> kindofabuzz_: On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[20:13] <DarkLordVenom> then identify using /msg NickServe IDENTIFY <password>
[20:13] <ubuntu__> hello, after startupmanager install i could not start ubuntu again, i am now in live cd, because i get kernel panic  not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0), it is desesperating, anybody can help _
[20:13] <sudDA> I just changed my nick to kindofabuzz and back again - you try it.
[20:13] <kindofabuzz> ok there lol
[20:13] <sudDA> ta da!
[20:13] <psycardis> sudDA: did you get my last?
[20:14] <iclebyte> unop, it was this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/81057
[20:14] <sudDA> psycardi... don't think so, let me check log...
[20:14] <iclebyte> (for future reference..)
[20:14] <TomL_> I am trying to get gnome running after initial install of Ubuntu Server 7.10 on VMware 6.0.3.  All I get is the command prompt.  The install completed normally.  Then ran "$ apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" from the command line.  gnome still not running.  Suggections?
[20:14] <psycardis> ﻿sudDA: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359375
[20:14] <sudDA> psycardi: Now I see it, thx
[20:14] <neohaven> somehow, Ubuntu only "sees" one monitor.
[20:15] <psycardis> sudDA: np
[20:15] <neohaven> and I have 3 plugged in right now.
[20:15] <simmerz> I've got a terminal window open, but for some reason when I'm connected via screen, my backspace key doesn't work. any ideas?
[20:15] <psycardis> neohaven: what driver are you running?
[20:15] <gregory> TomL_: reboot
[20:15] <ubuntu__> hello, after startupmanager install i could not start ubuntu again, i am now in live cd, because i get kernel panic  not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0), it is desesperating, anybody can help _
[20:15] <neohaven> simmerz : I would tell you to stty your backspace key properly, iirc.
[20:15] <neohaven> psycardis: fglrx, but I don't think that's the problem here.
[20:16] <TomL_> Did reboot - no joy!
[20:16] <psycardis> neohaven: what type video card do you have?
[20:16] <neohaven> Dual Radeon X1900s
[20:16] <psycardis> TomL_: are you military? I only hear no joy at work
[20:16] <neohaven> not Crossfire.
[20:16] <gregory> TomL_: startx maybe?
[20:16] <sudDA> psycardis: Just tried it, that gives me an error: the following packages have unmet dependencies: libid3tag0 and libmad0
[20:17] <TomL_> No - civilian
[20:17] <GH-VAIO> hello.. anybody here wanna trade shell account?
[20:17] <GH-VAIO>  «›» Plêå$è «›» private
[20:17] <psycardis> neohaven: I really don't have experience with ATI, but, with nVIDIA you can configure stuff like that inside the proprietary driver
[20:17] <gregory> GH-VAIO: NO - go away
[20:18] <neohaven> psycardis: is aticonfig available on apt?
[20:18] <psycardis> TomL_: just curious
[20:18] <spanther> proprietary ATI driver does not show the login manager screen stays black
[20:18] <killAnig> http://pastebin.com/m8fed1f4
[20:18] <stefg> ubuntu__: the kernel is not finding the filesystem for /. probably the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst is wrong or your intrd is broken
[20:18] <psycardis> neohaven: i would assume that that is installed as part of the ATI proprietary driver
[20:19] <Nith> neohaven: its available as part of the ATI restricted drivers
[20:19] <Na-Fiann> Hi, I installed transmission 1.11 from a deb of getdeb, but aptitude keeps saying transmission-gtk is unused and wants to remove it. how can I tell it to keep the package?
[20:19] <TomL_> Startx not installed.  Running it now!
[20:19] <Zelta> What [free] program can I use to mount .cue/.bin files as a virtual CD?
[20:19] <neohaven> psycardis: it is, nevermind my inability to check lol
[20:19] <killAnig> Zelta: google
[20:19] <stefg> !cdemu
[20:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdemu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:19] <psycardis> neohaven: how did you send that lad message to me?
[20:19] <killAnig> http://pastebin.com/m8fed1f4
[20:19] <psycardis> *last
[20:19] <Zelta> !google | killAnig
[20:19] <ubotu> killAnig: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[20:19] <killAnig> ?
[20:20] <sudDA> I am having trouble installing gstreamer-bad and/or gstreamer-ugly. Ho do I resolve unresolvable dependencies?
[20:20] <psycardis> my google-fu is strong
[20:20] <killAnig> I tried google
[20:20] <killAnig> that's why Im here
[20:20] <killAnig> you should try google for you question Zelta
[20:20] <killAnig> I'm sure its very well covered
[20:20] <killAnig> very very very well covered
[20:20] <stefg> Zelta: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69530
[20:20] <psycardis> neohaven: how did you send that last message to just me?
[20:20] <Tigerplug> hey guys... I want to extract a tar.gz archive to the parent folder..... e.g. /home/wordpress.tar.gz extract to /home/ how can I do this? - I know its tar -xzf but then what?
[20:20] <Zelta> I'm sure if it was very very very well covered I wouldn't be asking here, killAnig
[20:20] <Zelta> Thanks, stefg
[20:20] <ubuntu__> stefg: is my system completely lost _
[20:20] <killAnig> maybe youre just dumb
[20:21] <Cromag> killAnig: speak nice please.
[20:21] <ubuntu__> i do not matter if i have to do a lot of things
[20:21] <killAnig> I meant it in a sympathetic way
[20:21] <ubuntu__> i just do not know what
[20:21] <Tigerplug> anyone able to help me out on that one
[20:21] <psycardis> how do you send private messages within the irc channel?
[20:21] <Tigerplug> .... do I specify the directory that I want to extract to? - If so how can I specify it?
[20:22] <killAnig> psycardis: do @@ in front of them
[20:22] <killAnig> like "@@username msg"
[20:22] <Cromag> Tigerplug: it will extract to current dir, but it again depends whats in the archive.
[20:22] <TheJoel> Having a problem...  Client image failed to build during installation.  How do you rebuild the image manually?
[20:22] <psycardis> @@killAnig thanks
[20:22] <DarkLordVenom> @@DarkLordVenom abcd
[20:22] <stefg> ubuntu__: not your system .... it's rather you being a bit lost. it takes some knowledgable look at the boot process to find out where and why the boot hangs.
[20:22] <killAnig> np
[20:22] <sudDA> Tigerplug - try man tar in the terminal
[20:22] <psycardis> @@killAnig: thanks
[20:22] <psycardis> nope not working
[20:22] <killAnig> no its working
[20:22] <Cromag> Tigerplug: if it has a dir, it will be extracted as that.
[20:23] <Tigerplug> cromag ... its wordpress
[20:23] <psycardis> @killAnig test
[20:23] <killAnig> you have to use 2
[20:23] <ubuntu__> stefg: i say that i would read a lot to save the system, but i do not know what to do
[20:23] <sudDA> Tigerplug: are you writing a scipt?
[20:23] <Tigerplug> I just did a wget and I want to extract directly to my public www
[20:23] <psycardis> @@killAnig test
[20:23] <stefg> ubuntu__: what did you do with startup manager?
[20:23] <Tigerplug> sudDA no Im not writing a script
[20:23] <Cromag> Tigerplug: if you do tar -xzf filename it will be extracted to the current dir.
[20:24] <sudDA> Can anyone help me install grstreamer-bad or gstreamer-ugly? It doesn't work...
[20:24] <killAnig> http://pastebin.com/m8fed1f4 <---
[20:24] <scudDA> Tigerplug: Can't you just extarct to a temp file and then copy the needed files manually?
[20:24] <dwatson_> does anyone know how to get audigy x-fi to work with hardy haron
[20:25] <scudDA> Sorry, i mean temp folder
[20:25] <psycardis> killAnig test
[20:25] <psycardis> killAnig test
[20:25] <psycardis> nope
[20:25] <ubuntu__> stefg: i tried not to having the bootsplash screen anymore
[20:25] <Ax-Ax> any good executable that automounts usb disks?
[20:25] <killAnig> WHOA
[20:25] <killAnig> can you test pm me with the answer to my question :]
[20:25] <stefg> ubuntu__: so you edited /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[20:26] <stefg> !info startup-manager
[20:26] <killAnig> okay fine Ill read the apt-get manual
[20:26] <Tigerplug> scudDA basucally its like this /public_html/wordpress/"all the files I need here"  , I want to have all those files in /public_html/"all the files I need here" how can I move them all in one go? I have already extracted and this is the result
[20:26] <Sl4y3r> when i try to install xmms it says package is not available anyone know why>?
[20:26] <killAnig> thanks guys
[20:26] <pisca> help me with ati radeon 1100..
[20:26] <killAnig> jerks
[20:26] <ubotu> Package startup-manager does not exist in gutsy
[20:26] <Pici> !attitude | killAnig
[20:26] <ubotu> killAnig: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[20:26] <shelmar> !es
[20:26] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:27] <killAnig> THE ANSWERS WERE AVAILABLE
[20:27] <killAnig> you guys just hat eme
[20:27] <Sl4y3r> when i try to install xmms it says package is not available anyone know why>?
[20:27] <killAnig> I think that deserves some attitude
[20:27] <pisca> im use gutsy,,
[20:27] <laszlo> hi
[20:27] <scudDA> copy /public_html/wordpress/* /public_html/ should do it.
[20:27] <killAnig> and this is america
[20:27] <Pici> killAnig: Please stop.
[20:27] <killAnig> and Im entitledto believe
[20:27] <ubuntu__> stefg: i do not know what did the program exactly
[20:27] <killAnig> you want me to continue
[20:27] <killAnig> so you can use your power
[20:27] <stefg> ubuntu__: how did you install?
[20:27] <laszlo> can somebody help me with ubuntu-firefox-youtube?
[20:27] <psycardis> killAnig what exactly does it say when you try to install it?
[20:27] <pisca> ati radeon 1100
[20:27] <ubuntu__> stefg: sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[20:28] <pisca> help..
[20:28] <stefg> !info startupmanager
[20:28] <ubotu> startupmanager (source: startupmanager): Grub and Splash screen configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.9-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 53 kB, installed size 652 kB
[20:28] <Sl4y3r> when i try to install xmms it says package is not available anyone know why>?
[20:28] <scudDA> killAnig. THis is not America. This is the internet.
[20:28] <gregory> laszlo: just ask you question, someone will answer
[20:28] <pisca> i cant install ati radeon 1100..
[20:28] <Sl4y3r> when i try to install xmms it says package is not available anyone know why>?
[20:28] <scudDA> laszlo: What sort of help?
[20:28] <pisca> my comp not supported...
[20:29] <kazol> Sl4y3r: I think it's called differently-try "apt-cache search xmms"
[20:29] <ziggy> does anyone know any good linux cash register program?
[20:29] <twistage> Anyone know why "iptables -A PREROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 -p -tcp -j DNAT --to-destination 64.233.167.99" is giving me an Invalid Argument
[20:29] <TomL_> rebooted.  ran "startx" X:  cannot stat /etc/X11/X  (No such file or directory),  aborting, giving up.  xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  unable to connect to X server.  xinit:  No such process (errno3):  Server error.
[20:29] <scudDA> ziggy: http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/08/04/14/0242222.shtml may be of interest to you
[20:29] <pisca> help me with ati radeon 1100..
[20:29] <stefg> ubuntu__: after skimming over the docu i guess that your /boot/grub/menu.lst is hosed. So you are on live cd now?
[20:30] <pisca> i cant install that driver,,
[20:30] <Tigerplug> nope... copy not a recognised command
[20:30] <Sl4y3r> it lists a bubnch of files but no xmms
[20:30] <ziggy> thanks
[20:30] <Sl4y3r> it lists xmms2 but ive tried installing that and it doesnt work
[20:30] <flavietto> hi
[20:30] <ubuntu__> stefg: yes. i am in cd now, i did mount in /mnt and chrooted
[20:30] <nagyv> does anyone knows how can I run a program when a given device is mounted? (like, instead of opening a CD player or nautilus)
[20:31] <scudDA> Tigerplug: Sorry, I was in Windows mode. Use cp instead of copy
[20:31] <kazol> Sl4y3r: Do you get an error msg? Run it from the shell.
[20:31] <pisca> hh
[20:31] <Pici> Sl4y3r: 1) If you're using Hardy, please direct your questions to #ubuntu+1, 2) I dont believe xmms is supported any more, you could try using beep media player, it has a similar interface.
[20:31] <stefg> ubuntu__: so can you paste the /boot/grub/menu.lst of the installed system to pastebin ?
[20:31] <ubuntu__> ok stefg
[20:31] <stefg> !paste | ubuntu__
[20:31] <ubotu> ubuntu__: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[20:31] <pisca> please
[20:31] <Sl4y3r> beep media player has support for xchat plugins?
[20:31] <Pici> !ask | pisca
[20:31] <ubotu> pisca: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:31] <Sl4y3r> System Information for unix-desktop: CPU: AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+	1998.424 MHz, 256 KB Cache RAM: 353 MB HDD: 37 GB OS: GNU/Linux 2.6.24-16-generic Uptime: 14:31:48 up 1 day, 28 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.02, 0.18, 0.38
[20:31] <Sl4y3r> and yes hardy
[20:31] <Sl4y3r> ;s
[20:32] <SN00ZE_> /part
[20:32] <stefg> ubuntu__: and while you're at it add the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' as well
[20:32] <killAnig> irc volunteers all have ocd
[20:32] <ubuntu__> ok stefg
[20:33] <laszlo> I wanted to use sites with flash (youtube) and installed gtk-gnash (i am not sure about this) but when I go to the site the system slows down TOP says 2 gtk-gnash eats up memory is there any solution? I have AMD64 bte
[20:33] <Zelta> I'm having trouble settings up cdemu
[20:33] <laszlo> -bte
[20:33] <evilbug> how can i change the font color on the menu bars?
[20:34] <Zelta> I try to tar something and get this:
[20:34] <Sl4y3r> is beep media player in the repositories?
[20:35] <gregory> laszlo: you can use non-free-flash by installing that via the package manager (its adobe flash then)
[20:35] <Zelta> bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[20:35] <ariqs> you can't tar without feathers
[20:35] <Tigerplug> thanks!
[20:35] <Zelta> tar: Child returned status 2
[20:35] <Zelta> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[20:35] <scudDA> laszlo: I found that gnash doesn't work well with all flash sites. I removed it and installed the non-free adobe player instead. Works well. I also have 64bit
[20:35] <aubade> What util is to CRC hashing as md5sum and sh*sum are to theirs respectively?
[20:35] <aubade> 'apropos crc' turns up nothing. ;/
[20:35] <Starnestommy> Sl4y3r: I think it's in there as beep-media-player
[20:35] <ubuntu__> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63346/
[20:35] <stefg> k
[20:36] <laszlo> cheers, how to do that?
[20:36] <Sl4y3r> Reading state information... Done
[20:36] <Sl4y3r> E: Couldn't find package beep-media-player
[20:36] <scudDA> laszlo: go to applications > add/remove. seach for gnash, remove gnash.
[20:37] <scudDA> laszlo: Then go to youtube, it will propmpt you to download a flash player and offer you either gnash or adobe.
[20:37] <Starnestommy> Sl4y3r: do you have the universe repository enabled in system > administration > software sources?
[20:37] <evilbug> how can i change the font color on the menu bars,i'm running 7.10?
[20:37] <n95-nokia> hi all, if i have a movie on pc  how can i play it on nokia n95 n95 plays files .3gp and mp4
[20:37] <balle_> my ubuntu keeps insisting on running in low graphics mode after i enabled the restricted drivers, how can i make it wanna run high graph?
[20:37] <CelticLord> hello
[20:38] <intarwebz> hey can someone tell me why my network printers randomly drop offline?  they work after a reboot for a while and then spontaneously quit working...what's up with tha?
[20:38] <CelticLord> my vodafone mobile connect refuse to start :(
[20:38] <scudDA> n95: what format is your video file in?
[20:38] <n95-nokia> Gladiator.2000.SWESUB.DVDRip.XviD-Emailo/Gladiator.2000.SWESUB.DVDRip.XviD-Emailo
[20:38] <Sl4y3r> yes
[20:39] <Starnestommy> Sl4y3r: which version of ubuntu?
[20:39] <duux> someone know a good state application i can put in the desktop?
[20:39] <Sl4y3r> 8.04
[20:39] <Myrtti> Sl4y3r: #ubuntu+1
[20:40] <mr_strife> quelqu un ??
[20:40] <scudDA> can anyone help me resolve an unresolvable dependency?
[20:40] <Myrtti> !fr | mr_strife
[20:40] <ubotu> mr_strife: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:40] <Starnestommy> Sl4y3r: please ask in #ubuntu+1 since that channels' specifically for Hardy/8.04
[20:40] <Starnestommy> *chnanel's
[20:40] <mr_strife> et o ??
[20:40] <stefg> ubuntu__: looks normal. so my next guess would be a broken initrd. unfortunaly an 'update-initramfs' won't work in a chrooted environment, so you might have better luck by trying to 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic' in the chroot
[20:40] <Sl4y3r> kk
[20:40] <Myrtti> !english | mr_strife
[20:40] <ubotu> mr_strife: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[20:41] <scudDA> mr_strife: bonjour. tapez /join #ubuntu-fr pour trouvez des francophones
[20:41] <ubuntu__> ok stefg i will
[20:41] <unstable> I have this dialup modem, and I made a ppp0 device, ran some script..and I get an ip, and a dns server and everything..but when I go to my browser it doesn't work..what do I have to do?
[20:41] <biabia> is it possible in linux to repartion some of the empty space on a drive
[20:42] <balle_> my ubuntu keeps insisting on running in low graphics mode after i enabled the restricted drivers, how can i make it wanna run high graph?
[20:42] <Myrtti> biabia: sure
[20:42] <unstable> the network manager doesn't know about it, but this pppd command knows about it, and even assigns me an ip
[20:42] <biabia> Myrtti: whats the tool
[20:42] <Myrtti> biabia: though, do you mean empty or unpartitioned?
[20:42] <ay^> biabia: fdisk
[20:42] <stefg> ubuntu__: after that is done i'd rewrite grubs MBR.
[20:42] <biabia> no the space is part of another partition right now
[20:42] <Myrtti> biabia: and what's the partition type that your trying to resize?
[20:43] <ay^> aha
[20:43] <biabia> i have a drive thats about 80% full
[20:43] <Myrtti> biabia: ext3?
[20:43] <pisca> balle_, high graph..?? use compiz..
[20:43] <biabia> im not sure
[20:43] <biabia> let me see if i can find out
[20:43] <ay^> biabia: I think there is a app called GParted
[20:44] <scudDA> can anyone help me install gstreamer? Please?
[20:44] <Myrtti> scudDA: it isn't installed already? ^___0
[20:45] <Stroganoff> !elaborate | scudDA
[20:45] <ubotu> scudDA: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[20:45] <pisca> scudDA: apt-get install gstreamer
[20:45] <ay^> + sudo
[20:45] <pisca> scudDA: #apt-get install gstreamer
[20:45] <linkinxp> !gstreamer
[20:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gstreamer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:45] <scudDA> Stroganoff: Installing gstreamer-bad or gstreamer-ugly gives me "unresolvable dependencies"
[20:45] <mydoghasworms> Anyone using hobo on Linux (Ubuntu specifically)? How to update the path to see hobo in /var/lib/gems/1.8/gems/hobo-0.7.4/bin?
[20:46] <Myrtti> scudDA: you probably don't have the repos enabled
[20:46] <biabia> i dont remember the command to find the type of filesystem on the drive
[20:46] <kabads> where are scsi hard disks normally located under /dev?
[20:46] <Myrtti> biabia: mount
[20:46] <scudDA> Myrtti: I have normal repos and medibuntu
[20:47] <biabia> ok
[20:47] <biabia> /dev/sda1 on /media/disk-1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=512)
[20:47] <kabads> I'm looking to mount a hard drive and can't find the /dev reference
[20:47] <scudDA> Synaptic>repositories>3rd party software shows 2 canonical repos and 2 medibutu entries with ticks next to them
[20:47] <Myrtti> scudDA: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad is on universe
[20:48] <dudeeee34> hi guys
[20:48] <dudeeee34> i need help enabling desktop effects
[20:48] <dudeeee34> it gives me an error everytime i try it
[20:48] <pisca> scudDA: insert your repos -> Software Source -> Third-Party Software -> add CDRom.
[20:48] <dudeeee34> why is this?
[20:48] <Myrtti> scudDA: so do you have the tick on Community-maintained Open Source software
[20:48] <scudDA> Myrtti: I have "all vailable applications" selected on add/remove
[20:48] <hischild> dudeeee34, did you enable the restricted drivers? and what error?
[20:48] <j1mb0____>  has anyone gotten linksys wusb11 to work with ubuntu??
[20:48] <dudeeee34> it says
[20:49] <dudeeee34> "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[20:49] <hischild> !enter | dudeeee34
[20:49] <ubotu> dudeeee34: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[20:49] <biabia> Myrtti: no its not ext3 it says this:   /dev/sda1 on /media/disk-1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=512)
[20:49] <Nutzebahn> Does anyone know of any free fingerprint reader programs for Linux?
[20:49] <Myrtti> biabia: fuseblk? o___o
[20:49] <pisca> dudeeee34, install your VGA
[20:49] <Ax-Ax> any good executable that automounts usb disks?
[20:50] <dudeeee34> my what?
[20:50] <laszlo> scudDA: thanks, it seems I already have that nonfree adobe version while it started with any additional install
[20:50] <hischild> dudeeee34, did you enable the restricted drivers? ( system => administration => restricted drivers)
[20:50] <gregory> Ax-Ax: that should happen automatically
[20:50] <daz_> ola
[20:50] <dudeeee34> um no
[20:50] <Na-Fiann> Hi, I installed transmission 1.11 from a deb of getdeb, but aptitude keeps saying transmission-gtk is unused and wants to remove it. how can I tell it to keep the package?
[20:50] <hischild> dudeeee34, please do so.
[20:50] <hischild> !who | dudeeee34
[20:50] <ubotu> dudeeee34: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[20:51] <j1mb0____>  has anyone gotten linksys wusb11 wireless adapter to work with ubuntu??
[20:51] <dudeeee34> the only thing it lets me turn on is broadcom chipset family
[20:51] <Ax-Ax> gregory: if i killed all gnome-stuff and just want one executable that does tht instead?
[20:51] <biabia> Myrtti its an external drive
[20:51] <Myrtti> biabia: okies, so you don't know which type it is
[20:51] <hischild> Na-Fiann, those are 2 different packages. Remove the old one and then reinstall the new one.
[20:51] <gregory> Ax-Ax: i see , let me check
[20:51] <google_> http://ubuntuultimateedition.blogspot.com/
[20:51] <Ax-Ax> :)
[20:51] <Na-Fiann> hischild: no, the old one is already removed
[20:52] <hischild> Na-Fiann, then what is it trying to remove? and why?
[20:52] <dudeeee34> what should i do?
[20:52] <biabia> Myrtti: so which tool do you recommend
[20:53] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[20:53] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[20:53] <hischild> dudeeee34, please enable the restricted driver.
[20:53] <gregory> Ax-Ax: usbmount maybe?
[20:53] <dudeeee34> i enabled it
[20:53] <pisca> dudeeee34, use ndiswrapper
[20:53] <hischild> dudeeee34, did you restart?
[20:53] <dudeeee34> no
[20:53] <Myrtti> biabia: I'd say install gparted and hope it recognises it
[20:53] <dudeeee34> ndiswrapper?
[20:53] <laszlo> anyone has ubuntu on dell vostro notebook?
[20:53] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone tell me in ubuntu which keyboard key is used as Meta key?
[20:53] <hischild> pisca, why would he use ndiswrapper when he's having  a graphical issue?
[20:53] <biabia> Myrtti: ok thanks i'll try it
[20:53] <hischild> dudeeee34, once you've enabled them, you have to restart. Please do so.
[20:53] <pisca> oouuppss.. sori,,
[20:53] <ay^> Pirate_Hunter:  mine is esc
[20:53] <w0nder> I just got a new video card (nvidia geforce 7300) ... before I install it, what do I need to do to prepare ubuntu so everything boots ok when wheN I put it in?
[20:53] <Na-Fiann> hischild: it is trying to remove transmission-gtk 1.11 (the one from getdeb) because it thinks it is unused
[20:54] <Ax-Ax> gregory: sounds ok
[20:54] <Na-Fiann> I have no idea why it thinks so
[20:54] <hischild> Na-Fiann, lock the version in synaptic then.
[20:54] <dudeeee34> But the driver I enabled was only wireless driver. There was no other driver in the list
[20:54] <Na-Fiann> how?
[20:54] <hischild> dudeeee34, what graphics card do you have?
[20:54] <scudDA> pisca: I added the cdrom, but it still says "unresolved dependency"
[20:54] <Na-Fiann> hischild: can't it be done in aptitude?
[20:54] <dudeeee34> I don't know
[20:54] <stefg> w0nder: what card is in you box right now?
[20:54] <hischild> Na-Fiann, it can though i'm not sure of the commands. Man aptitude will probably know them.
[20:55] <Na-Fiann> k ty
[20:55] <Myrtti> scudDA: do you have the universe repo enabled
[20:55] <w0nder> stefg: it's an integrated intel chipset
[20:55] <Myrtti> scudDA: as I asked earlier
[20:55] <duux> someone know of a good application to show stats about computer on the ubuntu desktop?
[20:55] <Pirate_Hunter> ay^: is that by default? cause im reading irssi commands and alt&numbers allow you to move from server to server but neither alt/esc work for me, can you suggest something?
[20:55] <ay^> duux: what stats?
[20:55] <scudDA> Myrtti: Where do I check that?
[20:56] <duux> about ram, cpu and disk
[20:56] <ere4si> duux: I use conky
[20:56] <ay^> ctrl number
[20:56] <ay^> whops
[20:56] <Myrtti> scudDA: system - administration - software sources
[20:56] <iclebyte> conky FTW!
[20:56] <ay^> Pirate_Hunter: ctrl x switches server
[20:56] <surmandal_> hi..
[20:56] <wadd0035> hey
[20:56] <stefg> w0nder: so i'd just plug it in. chances are that ubuntu sorts it out automagically, at least with the free 'nv' driver. the use restricted manager to add the 3d enabled nvidia driver
[20:56] <murre> hola amigos
[20:56] <dudeeee34> ah man
[20:56] <ay^> Pirate_Hunter: and ctrl n/p switches focuse
[20:56] <w0nder> stefg: thanks, here goes nothing!
[20:56] <psycardis> !es
[20:56] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:57] <murre> ah sí, perdon
[20:57] <psycardis> murre: no hay es problema
[20:57] <surmandal_> can anyone help me to create ubuntu repository on centos box
[20:57] <laszlo> bye
[20:57] <scudDA> Myrtti: software sources > 3rd party shows archive.canonical.../partner and packages.medibuntu ticked. that's all there is.
[20:57] <murre> well, sry guys, Im just messing around with you....:P
[20:57] <ay^> Pirate_Hunter: I have to go, but hope it helped
[20:57] <Pirate_Hunter> ok my keyboard is acting funny the plus, subtraction and number keys etc are not functioning as they should, they are freaking controlling the mouse :/ how do i stop this, i dont know how i even activated it?
[20:57] <MrBill> I'm having trouble getting XMMS to "stick" as my default player for MP3s. I've right clicked an MP3, gone to the "open with" and set it to XMMS, but if i come back the next day, and double click an MP3 I end up in totem player. Is there something I need to do to make XMMS permanently my default app for mp3s?
[20:57] <dudeeee34> Hola como estas?
[20:58] <biabia> Myrtti: yes gparted sees the drive
[20:58] <user1> any good gui for ftp browser?
[20:58] <psycardis> murre: no, you must now go to the spanish room
[20:58] <Myrtti> scudDA: check that you've got universe ticked
[20:58] <user1> any good gui for ftp client?
[20:58] <Pirate_Hunter> ay^: c yah
[20:58] <murre> haha
[20:58] <user1> any good gui app for ftp client?
[20:58] <psycardis> user1: filezilla
[20:58] <scudDA> Myrtti: THere is no "universe" to tick!
[20:58] <pisca> scudDA, check synaptic - reload..
[20:58] <user1> psycardis ok
[20:58] <Myrtti> scudDA: on the Ubuntu software tab?
[20:58] <xonny88> hi everyone, i am back with the same problem, i downloaded an ISO file from ubuntu official webpage but I can't open it with any ISO viewer :S
[20:58] <Myrtti> xonny88: did you check the md5sums?
[20:58] <gregory> surmandal_: man apt-mirror
[20:59] <psycardis> !md5
[20:59] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[20:59] <murre> I dont really know how I....well are all of you guys, english or what :O
[20:59] <xonny88> Myrtti yes I know what is that and it's *perfectly* the same
[20:59] <magnetron> !iso | xonny88
[20:59] <ubotu> xonny88: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[20:59] <scudDA> Myrrti: Ah, ok... I have 3 identical "CDROM with Ubuntu 7.10" entires in that tab, two of them ticked.
[20:59] <surmandal_> gregory: on centos?
[20:59] <psycardis> cool, magnetron, i didn't know about the pipe
[20:59] <Frotos> hi, I'm not getting any sound from .mov(quicktime) in firefox on ubuntu
[20:59] <scudDA> Myrtti: ANd yes, universe was ticked. SOme of the others weren't though.
[21:00] <murre> are you guys....americans???
[21:00] <Myrtti> scudDA: main?
[21:00] <xonny88> i did also try to burn that ISO image to a NRG file (with nero, in windows) but i ended up with a blank cd
[21:00] <biabia> Myrtti: yes gparted sees the drive, but i'm not sure how to use it to repartition that drive
[21:00] <Myrtti> murre: no, not all
[21:00] <psycardis> !md5 | xonny88
[21:00] <ubotu> xonny88: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[21:00] <murre> well thank god
[21:00] <magnetron> murre: no, no
[21:00] <Myrtti> biabia: what format does it say it's partitioned in?
[21:00] <Myrtti> vfat, ext3, ntfs?
[21:00] <murre> any swed;s in here???
[21:00] <magnetron> !sv | murre
[21:00] <Myrtti> murre: plenty I think
[21:00] <ubotu> murre: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[21:00] <psycardis> !sw | murre
[21:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:00] <Pirate_Hunter> ok my keyboard is acting funny the plus, subtraction and number keys etc are not functioning as they should, they are freaking controlling the mouse :/ how do i stop this, i dont know how i even activated it?
[21:01] <magnetron> murre, psycardis: at least, spell it right
[21:01] <psycardis> lol, sorry
[21:01] <gregory> surmandal_: this is #ubuntu ;-) anyway why you not install ubuntu for your task?
[21:01] <Myrtti> Pirate_Hunter: you've got some universal access thingies on probably
[21:01] <murre> ahh...tack så mkt
[21:01] <biabia> ntfs
[21:01] <murre> ha en bra kväll allihopa XD
[21:01] <Myrtti> Pirate_Hunter: or num lock off
[21:01] <surmandal_> gregory: I have one server running centos
[21:01] <Myrtti> :-D
[21:01] <Myrtti> murre: tack, det samma
[21:01] <xonny88> MD5 checksum of the downloaded file is perfectly ok, i compared them with the list but I can't open them with any ISO viewer
[21:02] <karllenz> how is hardy with the new santa rosa macbooks?
[21:02] <biabia> Myrtti: ntfs
[21:02] <magnetron> !hardware | karllenz
[21:02] <Frotos> hi, I'm not getting any sound from .mov(quicktime) in firefox on ubuntu, is this the right channel for help?
[21:02] <ubotu> karllenz: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[21:02] <scudDA> Myrrti: Got it! I think it was the "main" repository that did it. I don't know why that was unticked. Wavs now working. Love this channel...
[21:02] <Pirate_Hunter> Myrtti: how do i turn it off it just started as I tried to get alt& numbers working together for freaking irssi but yeah it annoying and turning off number lock dont help
[21:02] <surmandal_> gregory: My admin ask me to install centos but i want to install apt mrror on it too
[21:02] <surmandal_> gregory: that is my requirment
[21:03] <gregory> surmandal_: virtual machines possible?
[21:03] <surmandal_> gregory: that sound great
[21:03] <Myrtti> Pirate_Hunter: beats me, try System - Preferences - Universal Access
[21:03] <scudDA> Myrtti: Thanks. Bye all.
[21:04] <xs142> I have the problem " update-alternatives –config java
[21:04] <gregory> surmandal_: you might install a debian into that. that would be safe bet. performance, robustness, etc..
[21:04] <xs142> update-alternatives: unknown argument `–config' "
[21:04] <Pirate_Hunter> Myrtti: brb
[21:04] <xs142> How to solve it?
[21:04] <Myrtti> xs142: double -
[21:04] <Myrtti> xs142: --, not –
[21:04] <xs142> Tyvm
[21:05] <xonny88> i have 2 computers, i downloaded a file whose MD5 checksum is identical to one on ubuntu official webpage but I can't open it with winrar nor any other iso viewer
[21:05] <thannoy> xs142: the link I have given to you a while ago contains wrongly critten hyphens, rewrite them
[21:05] <biabia> Myrtti: it says the drive is ntfs. im wanting to make a small partition to encrypt with luks. if it will work on this drive i'd prefer it but i have an ext3 drive i could use if need be
[21:05] <xonny88> is this iso file "special" ?
[21:05] <karllenz> iv used the santa rosa wiki before and have been having a real hard time with wifi and ndiswrapper
[21:05] <Stroganoff> xonny88 what file are you talking about
[21:05] <Myrtti> biabia: resizing ntfs in Ubuntu could be a bit tricky
[21:05] <Myrtti> but anyway
[21:05] <xonny88> Stroganoff: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[21:06] <Myrtti> !ntfs | biabia
[21:06] <ubotu> biabia: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[21:06] <twistage> I'm trying to find out the IP address of a website, but when I retrieve it from the ping command it sends me to a totally different site, this has happened on multiple sites i've tried. Any ideas?
[21:06] <biabia> Myrtti: ok thanks
[21:06] <biabia> :)
[21:06] <Myrtti> twistage: try "host"
[21:06] <Stroganoff> xonny88 try 7-Zip
[21:06] <xonny88> Stroganoff ok :)
[21:07] <MrObvious> twistage:
[21:07] <MrObvious> twistage: Whoops sorry. What website?
[21:07] <xonny88> Stroganoff: can you see the files inside those ISOs with 7zip? because winrar displays an error when I try to do it
[21:08] <Stroganoff> i can, xonny88
[21:08] <xonny88> alright
[21:08] <twistage> Well, to make a long story short i'm directing all unauthorized traffic on my router to yougotrickrolled.com or meatspin.com, and pinging them both yields IP addresses of other websites
[21:08] <Stroganoff> twistage: lol
[21:09] <MrObvious> twistage: It could be that your DNS servers aren't updated right. Maybe try 4.2.2.1-4.2.2.6?
[21:09] <pisca> zzzzz
[21:09] <MrObvious> twistage: And yes, lol.
[21:09] <LetsGo67> Did anyone notice that writing an email in Thunderbird will show the Netscape icon on the upleft corner of the window?
[21:09] <MrObvious> Nope. I didn't LetsGo67
[21:10] <LetsGo67> MrObvious, what do you read your emails with, Evolution?
[21:10] <twistage> MrObvious: thanks, i'll see if i can figure it out
[21:10] <MrObvious> Of course I am on Vista at the moment. lol
[21:10] <MrObvious> Thunderbird.
[21:10] <xonny88> Stroganoff: I get "unknown file format" error...
[21:10] <pisca> (_ _)zZzZzZ....  thx all.. bubye,,,,,
[21:10] <LetsGo67> Oh, MrObviousk, I am using Xubuntu.
[21:10] <xonny88> i downloaded 2 ubunto versions and i get the same error with both
[21:10] <xonny88> :S
[21:10] <Myrtti> LetsGo67: I don't know what kind of an icon that is but I know I'm not getting the kind of icon I'm expecting to see
[21:11] <Myrtti> LetsGo67: looks kinda netscapy though
[21:11] <LetsGo67> Myrtti: GNOME, KDE or Xfce?
[21:11] <Myrtti> LetsGo67: gnome
[21:11] <xonny88> this is another one i got from internet: Software - Ubuntu 6.10 i386 (Linux OS) CD Version (Only Install) - Multilanguage, by OSTIN.iso
[21:11] <xonny88> does someone know it?
[21:11] <LetsGo67> It's green-blue on the top, grey on the bottom.  That's most definitively Netscape.
[21:11] <Myrtti> LetsGo67: though I've got my thunderbird from mozilla site, not from ubuntu repos, you?
[21:11] <MrObvious> Lemme get on my server and load up Thunderbird.
[21:12] <MrObvious> I'll get it off the repos.
[21:12] <LetsGo67> Myrtti: came with Xubuntu.  Good luck!  (You have x on your server?  You use a server?)
[21:12] <thorax> hi !
[21:12] <Myrtti> >__<
[21:12] <Frotos> I retract my question/help request, I figured it out
[21:12] <MrObvious> !hi | thorax
[21:12] <ubotu> thorax: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[21:13] <thorax> nautilus is on disfonctionnement
[21:13] <LetsGo67> !policykit
[21:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about policykit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:13] <MrObvious> thorax: What is disfonctionement?
[21:13] <LetsGo67> GO POLICYKIT!  JUST LIKE VISTA!
[21:13] <Myrtti> LetsGo67: I think that's the exactly same that I see too, then
[21:13] <thorax> and i've this in my home/ nautilus-debug-log.txt :
[21:13] <xs142> thannoy, it didn't work :(
[21:13] <thorax> 0x8187440 2008/04/15 22:06:04.4752 (USER): debug log dumped due to signal 11
[21:13] <Myrtti> LetsGo67: hold your horses
[21:13]  * LetsGo67 high fives Myrtti
[21:13] <xs142> Isn't there a torrent client that works as well as azureus and just doesn't use java?
[21:13] <thorax> many lines write again and again
[21:14] <thorax> what is this ?
[21:14] <MrObvious> xs142: There is deluge.
[21:14] <Myrtti> !enter | thorax
[21:14] <ubotu> thorax: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:14] <MrObvious> xs142: It's a lot like uTorrent on windows.
[21:14] <LetsGo67> They should compress the reps, it'd be way faster and would give 'em more bandwidth.
[21:14] <xs142> MrObvious I'll check if filelist allows it..
[21:14] <thorax> Myrtti, sorry i'm a newbie here
[21:14] <lalala> Are there any good video creator tools for Ubuntu...or video editors?
[21:14] <Myrtti> LetsGo67: the packages in the repos are compressed
[21:15] <LetsGo67> Myrtti: a little bit.  It's still slow on dial-up/lite high speed
[21:15] <magnetron> lalala: cinelerra. check Applications > add / remove
[21:15] <hw00djohn> does anyone here know about VisualBoyAdvance, Gnomeboy Advance, or any other emulators for GBA?
[21:15] <esurnir> letsgo67: they are gziped
[21:15] <Flannel> LetsGo67: You can't compress indefinitely.
[21:15] <LetsGo67> It's a cheap open source edition of zip.
[21:15] <esurnir> letsgo67: Though I agree lzma would rox on package
[21:15] <thorax> nautilus is on disfonctionnement, and i've this in my home/ nautilus-debug-log.txt : 0x8187440 2008/04/15 22:06:04.4752 (USER): debug log dumped due to signal 11,   many lines write again and again. What is this ?
[21:16] <LetsGo67> Use Windows.
[21:16] <lalala> magnetron: cinePaint is the closest I can find... =( I find many viewers, but no creators
[21:16] <MrObvious> Use Windows????????????? Isn't that a bannable offense? :p
[21:16] <LetsGo67> Bonne nuit.
[21:17] <psycardis> mrobvious: it should be
[21:17] <magnetron> MrObvious: using more than 10 question marks SHOULD be a bannable offense
[21:17] <Myrtti> thorax: :-D
[21:17] <thorax> Myrtti, :)
[21:17] <mmcclarin> Hey, can anyone tell me if there is a Windows network? I was recently assigned administration duties of our windows servers when our admin was fired recently.
[21:17] <eax> Hello :) Does anyone have experience with getting the speakers working on an Acer TravelMate 4310? I'm using Feisty :)
[21:18] <mmcclarin> sucks
[21:18] <Myrtti> mmcclarin: samba?
[21:18] <MrObvious> Hmm it does have a different icon on that. I'm not sure if it is Netscape or not.
[21:18] <mmcclarin> no, we have a seperate side
[21:18] <thorax> Myrtti, can you help me ?
[21:18] <mmcclarin> linux on one, windows with AD and Exchange on the other.
[21:18] <mmcclarin> no integration.
[21:18] <magnetron> !windows | mmcclarin
[21:18] <ubotu> mmcclarin: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[21:18] <Myrtti> thorax: I noticed you're from France, have you asked in the French channels already?
[21:18] <MrObvious> thorax: No clue.
[21:19] <thorax> Myrtti, yes but no answer
[21:19] <thorax> Myrtti, yes but no reponse :/
[21:19] <Myrtti> mmcclarin: so what's your question really?
[21:19] <Myrtti> thorax: :-<
[21:19] <thorax> MrObvious, ?
[21:19] <GH-VAIO> hello.. anybody here wanna trade shell account?
[21:19] <eax> Hello :) Does anyone have experience with getting the speakers working on an Acer TravelMate 4310?
[21:19] <mmcclarin> I am an Ubuntu user, that is why I need to know of a Windows IRC channel so I can get assistance and not mess up our windows servers.
[21:19] <MrObvious> mmcclarin: Try my channel #eocf. We got some smart people in there.
[21:20] <Myrtti> mmcclarin: ##windows
[21:20] <Myrtti> mmcclarin: though I doubt the qos you'll be getting there
[21:20] <MrObvious> mmcclarin: It's a channel for overclocking but a lot of people there have a lot of experience in differnet areas.
[21:20] <Myrtti> mmcclarin: might be good though
[21:20] <Seveas> MrObvious, no spamming in here
[21:20] <MrObvious> Seveas: I'm not.
[21:20] <mmcclarin> thanks
[21:20] <Stroganoff> *spam*
[21:21] <dmsuperman_> Stroganoff: mmm, tasty
 mmcclarin: Try my channel #spammers. We got some smart people in there. <-- that's spamming
[21:21] <Stroganoff> dmsuperman_ egg sausage and SPAM
[21:21] <thorax> MrObvious, ubuntu feisty 7.04 update
[21:21] <thorax> MrObvious, what else ?
[21:22] <MrObvious> Seveas: I was just helping a user get help in a way that is beyond the scope of his problem (non-linuxy). I don't just randomly say join #channel unless I think people can help.
[21:22] <MrObvious> Seveas: It's just like people referring to ##windows.
[21:22] <Seveas> MrObvious, then you should point them to the correct channel instead of spamming your own
[21:23] <ZeroWing> Aw... so close to 1337....
[21:23] <Fixman> haha
[21:23] <MrObvious> Seveas: Fine. But I disagree but I won't cause trouble.
[21:23] <hw00djohn> zerowing i was just thinking the same thing
[21:23] <ZeroWing> Yay!
[21:23] <Myrtti> thorax: looks like it's a bug and it's been fixed in the later releases
[21:23] <ZeroWing> Aw...
[21:23] <WorldBFree> since gOS is based off ubuntu, does anybody know how to boot a gOS image from the HD?
[21:23] <Myrtti> thorax: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/153382
[21:23] <erle-> why is in ubuntu per default fs checking activated
[21:23] <erle-> does it really make sense on desktop systems?
[21:23] <Myrtti> erle-: because it's a good idea
[21:23] <adilson> yay fixed my problem that was easier than i thought
[21:23] <thorax> kaneda, francais ?
[21:23] <erle-> after unclean shutdown of course
[21:24] <Stroganoff> WorldBFree: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-ca8e337bdfab6bfa1d064371898775fe1e9e22fd
[21:24] <erle-> but in normal usage?
[21:24] <eax> Hello :) Does anyone have experience with getting the speakers working on an Acer TravelMate 4310?
[21:25] <DeadLy_sp> hello ppl
[21:25] <MrObvious> eax: Maybe if you post the exact problem you are having with getting them to work and maybe what sound chipset you use people could help?
[21:25] <DeadLy_sp> antone know or play regnum?
[21:25] <thorax> Myrtti, ok thanks, can you tell me the name of another browser please ?
[21:25] <DeadLy_sp> ubuntu have a serious problem with ubuntu :/
[21:25] <Fixman> why?
[21:26] <eax> MrObvious: Thanks :) The problem is that they don't work :S At all :S They simply aren't recognized by Feisty. I don't know the sound chipset, how do I see tath?
[21:26] <hw00djohn> does anyone here have experience with visualboy advance or gnomeboy advance?
[21:26] <DeadLy_sp> this game is autoclosed when ubuntu want :(
[21:26] <Myrtti> thorax: not willing to update to a newer version? might try ... hold on...
[21:26] <MrObvious> eax: I think the command is lsmod.
[21:27] <Myrtti> thorax: try thunar
[21:27] <thorax> Myrtti, thanks
[21:27] <DeadLy_sp> where can i report of ubuntu problems?
[21:27] <Evil-MoBo> any web or graphic designer's in the room who might be able to tell me what a good flash editor / designer program might be or where to get one for debian/ubuntu?
[21:27] <MrObvious> eax: Sorry I really can't help much with that. :\ Another godo resource is ubuntuforums.org
[21:27] <MrObvious> *goode
[21:27] <MrObvious> *good
[21:27] <eax> MrObvious: Okay, thanks anyway :)
[21:28] <erevar> anyone who can help me burn an iso running off the live cd, with just 1 optical drive_
[21:28] <erevar> ?
[21:28] <ay^> eax: I just joined now, but did you try typing dmesg and scroll through that to see anything with sound chipset?
[21:28] <rwycuff> ervar:not sure thats possible
[21:28] <n0ts0l33t> if KDE and Gnome are just to forms of Desktop linux
[21:28] <rwycuff> erevar:
[21:28] <n0ts0l33t> then how well do they interact with eachother
[21:28] <eax> ay^: No, trying it now :)
[21:28] <biabia> Myrtti: ok i rezied the partition so i have unallocated space. should the new partition be primary or extended
[21:28] <n0ts0l33t> on the same installing of Ubuntu
[21:29] <n0ts0l33t> likr
[21:29] <n0ts0l33t> like
[21:29] <n0ts0l33t> where is the line drawn
[21:29] <Myrtti> biabia: for luks?
[21:29] <biabia> ya
[21:29] <erevar> hmm.. oki, so can`t unmount the live cd?
[21:29] <Evil-MoBo> what is the channel for ubuntu server edition?
[21:29] <iclebyte> #ubuntu-server
[21:29] <Myrtti> I've done mine as primary, but ymmv
[21:29] <Myrtti> biabia:
[21:29] <Evil-MoBo> thank you iclebyte
[21:30] <ay^> erevar: don't think so, tho you can try some other live-cd dists that allow running straight from ram such as knoppix puppy linux or DSL
[21:30] <iclebyte> np dude
[21:30] <biabia> Myrtti: ok thank you :)
[21:30] <ay^> erevar: they can be run from a USB-stick for instance
[21:30] <rwycuff> Evil-MoBo:lookup f4lm on google
[21:31] <fiXXXerMet> Can anyone recommend a fat16 recovery utility for linux?
[21:31] <erevar> hmm. yea, i could make a bootable usb thingy instead i guess. if i can just find that thing somewhere
[21:31] <baner> http://ircx.forum0.info/ <-- Free download games - programs - hack tools - music - tutorials nice stay :)
[21:31] <intarwebz> fiXXXerMet: dd
[21:31] <fiXXXerMet> intarwebz: You can use dd for that?  How?
[21:32] <Kaja> fiXXXerMet, testdisk might be it
[21:32] <fiXXXerMet> recovery as in a user deleted a file and needs it back
[21:32] <baner> http://ircx.forum0.info/ <-- Free download games - programs - hack tools - music - tutorials nice stay :)
[21:32] <Oyama> lo
[21:32] <erle-> Myrtti, can you tell me a scenario where default fscking makes sense? i am really interested
[21:33] <erle-> i can't imagine a single case
[21:33] <n0ts0l33t> if I'm running Gnome on my computer does using KDE programs and utlities pose any risk to destabilizing my machine?
[21:33] <gregory> no
[21:33] <n0ts0l33t> *and=any
[21:33] <n0ts0l33t> ok well then I have a problem
[21:33] <n0ts0l33t> lol
[21:33] <psycardis> nots0l33t: nope, i do it all the time
[21:33] <n0ts0l33t> my dcopserver
[21:34] <n0ts0l33t> is all screwed up
[21:34] <n0ts0l33t> it seems
[21:34] <dirtyhand> whats the command to switch to a different active user
[21:34] <intarwebz> fiXXXerMet: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2135846#post2135846
[21:34] <Seveas> !enter | n0ts0l33t
[21:34] <ubotu> n0ts0l33t: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:34] <dirtyhand> from joe to moe
[21:34] <thorax> Myrtti, ok thnks, thunar work perfecly
[21:34] <Joeseph> what is the default file manager for the xfce desktop called?
[21:34] <Myrtti> n0ts0l33t: leave some enter presses for the rest of us too
[21:34] <thorax> bye !
[21:34] <Oyama> i have troubles installing ubuntu amd64, i get a black screen just before the splash screen when i start the livecd, 32bits version of the livecd works well. My processor is amd athlon 64 x2 5200+, motherboard msi k9ag neo2
[21:34] <Frotos> hi, I solved my .mov(quicktime) not playing in firefox problem from the faqs here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats but now the sound is choppy and sounds like helium speak, could someone help me or point me to the solution to this problem.
[21:34] <Draggin> Ola again. Simple question, but it's something that really annoys me... Very often, if I have a disc in my CD-ROM and/or DVD drive while booting up, that disc shows up twice on my desktop. If I tell it to eject one of the discs, the icon for the other still remains there. Why does this happen and is there anything I can do to avoid it?
[21:34] <n0ts0l33t> I'm sorry about that
[21:35] <psycardis> !bye | thorax
[21:35] <ubotu> thorax: Au revoir!
[21:35] <Seveas> Draggin, the obvious way to avoid it would be to remove the CD before shutting down (or while booting) :)
[21:35] <n0ts0l33t> so should I ask a question about DCOPserver or head to KDE support?
[21:35] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, maybe #kubuntu can help you better if nobody in here knows
[21:36] <Draggin> Seveas, yes, but seriously now... That's not how any decent OS should behave - I don't want to eject discs that I'm going to use on the next boot just to insert them again...
[21:36] <psycardis> ask and if nobody answers try KDE support or kubuntu
[21:36] <backslash> Hello everyone!
[21:36] <Nutzebahn> Does anyone know of any fingerprint reader software for Linux?
[21:36] <backslash> How can I make a shortcut for a mounted partition /mnt/data on my desktop?
[21:36] <psycardis> !hi | backslash
[21:36] <ubotu> backslash: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[21:36] <backslash> Hi :D
[21:36] <Seveas> Draggin, I agree, but I have never seen this before and thus don't have a clue what's going on. Is the disk mounted twice as well?
[21:36] <psycardis> backslash: right click and create shortcut on your desktop
[21:37] <backslash> Right click on desktop or mount folder?
[21:37] <psycardis> desktop
[21:37] <n0ts0l33t> ic@ic-desktop:~$ kvirc
[21:37] <n0ts0l33t> trying to create local folder /home/ic/.kde/share: Permission denied
[21:37] <backslash> Because I tryed to MAKE LINK in /mnt/data but I cant do it
[21:37] <backslash> okay
[21:37] <n0ts0l33t> is just one of the messages I get when running KVIRC now
[21:37] <backslash> psycardis: "Launcher" ?
[21:37] <Draggin> Seveas - it doesn't seem to be mounted twice, since if I execute a umount after ejecting the disc, it tells me that it's not mounted, yet the icon is still on the desktop.  Really though? You've never heard that? I had the same problem on Feisty as well...
[21:37] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, you've run some KDE apps with sudo. Bad idea
[21:37] <n0ts0l33t> and Amarok can't find it's own sound engines
[21:38] <psycardis> backslash: I'm sorry misunderstood you
[21:38] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, try this: sudo chown $USER -R ~/.kde
[21:38] <Invisionfree> What's this mean?
[21:38] <Invisionfree> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:38] <Invisionfree>   libsasl2-modules-gssapi-heimdal: Depends: libsasl2-modules (= 2.1.22.dfsg1-12) but 2.1.22.dfsg1-9ubuntu2 is to be installed
[21:38] <Invisionfree> E: Broken packages
[21:38] <FloodBot2> Invisionfree: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:38] <psycardis> backslash: ln -s /mnt/data /home/*username*/desktop
[21:38] <backslash> psycardis: aah right its a link right?
[21:38] <backslash> man ln ;) wait
[21:39] <pleasebenice> i have a simple question
[21:39] <psycardis> backslash: yup
[21:39] <Svenstaro> !ask | pleasebenicee
[21:39] <ay^> pleasebenice: sweet
[21:39] <Seveas> Invisionfree, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:39] <erevar> bleh, couldn`t find my usb stick either. guess i`ll install, burn new iso & then reinstall ;) -- thanks guys
[21:39] <ubotu> pleasebenicee: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:39] <ay^> erevar: hehe do that! glhf!
[21:39] <sourcemaker_> Can I use the SAP GUI for java in Kubuntu?
[21:39] <prodigel> Hi all. I'm using transmission for the first time and I don't see a tray icon alltough the option is checked in edit preferences. Any idea? I'm using ubuntu hardy heron
[21:39] <pleasebenice> i am try to connect to my verizon usenet using my account name and password from my friends house ....i can't do i need to port forward?
[21:39] <Frotos> ubotu, then that would be no one knows the answer to my question
[21:39] <Seveas> sourcemaker_, if it's pure java without JNI modules, then that should work
[21:40] <Myrtti> !8.04 | prodigel
[21:40] <ubotu> prodigel: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[21:40] <pleasebenice> help
[21:40] <prodigel> ubotu: thanks
[21:40] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[21:40] <pleasebenice> please
[21:40] <psycardis> backslash: did you get it?
[21:40] <Seveas> pleasebenice, we're not verizon support.
[21:40] <Draggin> Oh, and another question - I'm running Ubuntu Studio 7.10 and some of the apps seem to 'crash' every now and then without any error messages or indication as to what happened at all... How can I locate errors like these?
[21:40] <Invisionfree> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63350/
[21:40] <pleasebenice> i am try to connect to my verizon usenet using my account name and password from my friends house ....i can't! do i need to port forward?
[21:40] <Seveas> call them
[21:40] <backslash> psycardis: yes man its great :D thanks a lot !
[21:40] <rwycuff> pleasebenice:google usnet ports they use the same as the defualt usnet
[21:40] <psycardis> backslash: glad I could help
[21:41] <rwycuff> pleasebenice:what are you using thier usnet for any how
[21:41] <backgen> hey guys, i have a problem, everytime i download .rar files and try to unzip them my unzipper (which came standard with Ubuntu Gibbon) says the Archive file type is not supported
[21:41] <backgen> what should i do?
[21:41] <sourcemaker_> Seveas: well.. yes.. i also think so... but it does not work
[21:41] <Svenstaro> pleasebenice, you usually wouldnt need ports forwarded for usenet, can you draw a quick picture of your network architecture?
[21:41] <backslash> psycardis: Maybe you know a good tutorial about user / group management in linux in general?
[21:41] <pleasebenice> i am using the default port 119... i'm asking do i need to port forward on my router for it to work?
[21:41] <ay^> backgen: you need to apt-get unrar
[21:41] <Seveas> sourcemaker_, then contact SAP support :)
[21:41] <Svenstaro> pleasebenice, that shouldnt be necessary usually
[21:41] <backgen> ay^: how do i do that?
[21:41] <Invisionfree> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63350/
[21:41] <pleasebenice> im using verizon because thier my isp
[21:41] <ay^> open terminal
[21:41] <backslash> psycardis: For example if I wanted to make a script to add users which automaticlly are registered in apache and get their home dir with own permissions and so on
[21:42] <backgen> ay^: ok
[21:42] <n0ts0l33t> Seveas: alright now Amaraok will launch but the error message that I get is "cannot talk to KLauncher" and the program itself minimized to its on seperate box under my applciation bar not my Tray
[21:42] <sourcemaker_> Seveas: yes, indeed... the best support you can have... no thanks *g*
[21:42] <Seveas> Invisionfree, you're missing some repositories
[21:42] <ay^> backgen:  type this in your terminal sudo apt-get install unrar
[21:42] <unop> backgen, try installing these two packages.  sudo aptitude install rar unrar
[21:42] <Draggin> Could someone tell me if I execute a command like '$ xaralx > debug.txt', will that actually output the terminal contents to the file debug,txt when running xaralx?
[21:42] <psycardis> backslash: i would try this http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/user-management.html
[21:42] <Seveas> sourcemaker_, don't get me started on SAP ;)
[21:42] <pleasebenice> i have 2 pc's  router and a dsl modem (ppoe on the router)
[21:42] <pleasebenice> that's my network
[21:42] <psycardis> backslash: other than that I don't know
[21:42] <backgen> yay!!! thanks guys
[21:42] <pleasebenice> wireless pc's
[21:42] <backgen> my god do i love Terminal
[21:42] <ay^> backgen:  np
[21:42] <rwycuff> pleasebenice:i understand they are your ISP other wise yuo wouldnt have access to it... but was rather asking what u was using the usnet for and also try it with out if it not connect then try opening the port
[21:42] <backslash> psycardis: okay thanks :D
[21:43] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, then there's probably more in your homedir that's owned by root.
[21:43] <Frotos> I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras in order to get the .mov sound to work in firefox, but the sound is choppy(cuts in and out) and ppl sound like they have inhaled helium, could someone point me to help/solution for this?
[21:43] <DarkLordVenom> how do i turn on line numbers in ViM?
[21:43] <ay^> backgen: terminal is a beautyfull thing
[21:43] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, try this: sudo chown $USER -R ~
[21:43] <Svenstaro> pleasebenice, okay, so nothing too complicated. what exactly is the issue then? no connection at all or just very slow?
[21:43] <Seveas> (can take a while)
[21:43] <unop> backslash, for what purposes would you want your apache users to also be system users?
[21:43] <StuckMojo> hey where can i find a mapping of names to numbers of ubuntu releases?
[21:43] <Seveas> StuckMojo, wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseCodenames iirs
[21:44] <backslash> unop: Never mind, it was just an example
[21:44] <Seveas> StuckMojo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[21:44] <backslash> unop: I'm quite new to linux in user management and so on, im just looking for a tutorial
[21:44] <backslash> Im not planning anything like that :P
[21:44] <pleasebenice> no connection at all
[21:44] <psycardis> backslash: that one I sent you should get you started
[21:44] <Svenstaro> pleasebenice, are you getting some kind of error? a timeout or a refused? that would really help
[21:45] <backslash> yes its very basic and ubuntu specific...
[21:45] <unop> backslash, see the mapages for the following commands..  useradd, usermod, userdel, groupadd, groupmod, groupdel, passwd and gpasswd
[21:45] <psycardis> pleasebenice: http://www.portforward.com
[21:45] <ubuntu_> hola
[21:45] <ubuntu_> que tal guapo
[21:45] <Seveas> pleasebenice, if your friends doesn't have a verizon connection, you can't connect from his house...
[21:45] <Devourer> What does the deskbar applet do?
[21:45] <Seveas> !es | ubuntu_
[21:45] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:45] <n0ts0l33t> Seveas: maybe my user group got changed.  my primary login should be set to admin? or to something else?
[21:45] <backslash> unop and psycardis, thank you guys
[21:45] <pleasebenice> worst case scenario ...verizon usnet works only if the account is from the originating ip...which means i can;t use it any place but home...has any1 heard of this b4?
[21:45] <psycardis> !es | ubuntu_
[21:45] <backslash> anyways, cya
[21:45] <Oyama> i have troubles installing ubuntu amd64, i get a black screen just before the splash screen when i start the livecd, 32bits version of the livecd works well. My processor is amd athlon 64 x2 5200+, motherboard msi k9ag neo2; any clue?
[21:45] <Seveas> pleasebenice, that's normal.
[21:46] <Svenstaro> Oyama, do you have a 8800-series nvidia card?
[21:46] <pleasebenice> what's the best 3rd party usenet service
[21:46] <Oyama> Svenstaro: i should check, but probably yes
[21:46] <pleasebenice> pay or free
[21:47] <backgen> hey does anyone have any experience with the Wallpaper changer app "Desktop Drapes"?
[21:47] <Svenstaro> Oyama, anyway, you can probably fix it easily by removing "splash quiet" when booting from the cd, your screenw will still go black tho, just hang on for 3 min or so and try to move the cursor
[21:47] <rwycuff> pleasebenice:thats not how VOL's network works it shouldnt matter what the ip is as long as its an active account
[21:47] <Oyama> Svenstaro: i see, i'll try it
[21:47] <Frotos> well I did not find the solution to my problem this time, but that is the way things are, cyas
[21:47] <arooni> is there a firefox extension that securely remembers logins/passwords for various sites (ACROSS different instances of firefox?) .. i.e. a secure key ring you can install on multiple machines?
[21:47] <pleasebenice> i needto test it just to be sure ..does any one have a free one lying around in a bookmark or textfile?
[21:47] <Seveas> Invisionfree, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63351/
[21:48] <simplexio> Oyama: do you have more than 4G RAM ? if not use 32bit, far as i know you dont get anything out from 64bit in that case
[21:48] <Seveas> pleasebenice, this is ubuntu support, not usenet support. Try binaries4all.com for usenet support
[21:48] <n0ts0l33t> Seveas: maybe my user group got changed.  my primary login should be set to admin? or to something else?
[21:48] <pleasebenice> a free  usenet server i cant test to make sure it's not a firewall problem
[21:48] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, what's the output of the command id
[21:48] <psycardis> simplexio: oh, you mean besides software incompatibility issues?
[21:48] <Draggin> If my output in terminal is to much to scroll back to the beginning, how can I get all the information that was output?
[21:48] <dmsuperman_> arooni: I just point all my OSes firefox to the same profile folder
[21:48] <Invisionfree> Seveas: Should I mv my old sources.list and use that one?
[21:48] <n0ts0l33t> there wasn't one
[21:48] <simplexio> psycardis: yeh.
[21:48] <pleasebenice> thanks "seveas
[21:48] <dmsuperman_> arooni: you could also keep your whole firefox install + profile on a usb drive
[21:48] <Seveas> Invisionfree, yeah -- it is a more complete version of yours
[21:49] <Frijolie> is there a way to rearrange how rhythmbox displays it's columns? simple drag-n-drop doesn't work...
[21:49] <ay^> Draggin: you might be able to output it in a textfile
[21:49] <Invisionfree> Oh shoot
[21:49] <ay^> Draggin:  like this 'command > file.txt'
[21:49] <Invisionfree> My password is supposedly wrong.
[21:49] <simplexio> psycardis: but  64bit is good choice for work machine, no time to play with java gamse or watch youtube
[21:49] <Seveas> Frijolie, it seems like you can't rearrange them (just make them visible/invisible)
[21:50] <Draggin> ay^, I tried that, and it created the text file, but it didn't have anything in it
[21:50] <n0ts0l33t> Seveas: is not response better than a bad response?
[21:50] <ay^> mkay
[21:50] <n0ts0l33t> *no
[21:50] <ay^> you could try less-ing it, I do that sometimes :)
[21:50] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, hm?
[21:50] <Aeleon> My vpn consists of an ubuntu server connected to my router at home and my vista laptop client. Everything works wonderfully, but ports that i know are open look closed from my client. I've even DMZ'd my server, and whenever I use utorrent's port checker or dyndns.org's tool, my ports look closed or 'refused'.
[21:50] <Frijolie> Seveas: d'oh! that's what i was afraid of...
[21:50] <ay^> 'command | less'
[21:50] <Draggin> ay^ - less-ing it?
[21:50] <Invisionfree> Seveas: Now it says my root password is wrong, what did I do! :(
[21:50] <Frijolie> Seveas: silly you can't change them..
[21:50] <danand> Draggin - you could try redirecting the output of the command to file ie $ somecommand > output.txt then read that or increase the ammount of lines you can scroll back in your terminal
[21:50] <Draggin> ay^ what would that do?
[21:50] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, ah, missed your last line -- 'id' should give output...
[21:50] <ay^> show you the output one screen at the time
[21:50] <ay^> I think
[21:51] <psycardis> simplexio: hadn't thought of that lol
[21:51] <Invisionfree> Seveas: Now it says my root password is wrong, what did I do! :(
[21:51] <Draggin> danand, like I said, that only created the file for me, with nothing in it
[21:51] <Draggin> ay^ great, I'll try that
[21:51] <Seveas> Invisionfree, no idea what you did
[21:51] <unop> Invisionfree, ubuntu has no root password - unless you set one, and thats not a recommended thing to do
[21:51] <ay^> Draggin: at least that what it does when I use it with ls
[21:51] <n0ts0l33t> uid=1000(ic) gid=1000(ic) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(scanner),108(lpadmin),110(admin),115(netdev),117(powerdev),1000(ic)
[21:51] <Invisionfree> unop: As in, suddenly, sudo apt-get install package doesn't work, and I don't know what I did ! :(
[21:51] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, that looks fine
[21:52] <av0|der_> lel
[21:52] <Invisionfree> unop, any ideas?
[21:52] <unop> Invisionfree, sudo should ask for you password / are you entering your password?
[21:52] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, try this: find /home/ic -not -uid 1000
[21:52] <Invisionfree> Yes unop
[21:52] <Invisionfree> It says it's wrong now
[21:52] <Invisionfree> lee@diversion.no-ip.org's password:
[21:52] <Invisionfree> Connection closed by 12.203.90.214
[21:52] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, that should give *NO* output. If it does, something's wrong
[21:52] <pcg|Raven-CSS> can someone elp out a complete newb to linux???
[21:52] <Invisionfree> I enter it, and I get that, unop.
[21:52] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, in that case, pastebin the output :)
[21:52] <DRebellion> !ask | pcg|Raven-CSS
[21:52] <ubotu> pcg|Raven-CSS: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:52] <n0ts0l33t> Seveas: no output
[21:53] <simplexio> pcg|Raven-CSS: not, if dont tell your problem
[21:53] <unop> Invisionfree, err, what the hell is lee@diversion.no-ip.org ?
[21:53] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, ok, and with -gid instead of -uid?
[21:53] <ay^> pcg|Raven-CSS: I'd love to
[21:53] <Invisionfree> unop: That's my hostname when I SSH into it :x
[21:53] <unop> Invisionfree, that does not look like sudo at all, but ssh rather
[21:53] <pcg|Raven-CSS> yeah ive been trying to play css on wine and i cant get it to work
[21:53] <Invisionfree> unop: I can't SSH into it, and when I sudo on the box
[21:53] <Draggin> Okay, I managed to get the complete dump copied to pastebin, could someone with the knowhow please have a look at it and try to give me a remote indication of what is going wrong - I have no idea what all this junk means... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63353/
[21:54] <Invisionfree> It says "Sorry, try again."
[21:54] <unop> Invisionfree, what is the exact command you are using there?
[21:54] <ay^> Draggin: did less do it?
[21:54] <Invisionfree> lee@Lee-Laptop:~$ ssh -p 22000 diversion.no-ip.org
[21:54] <Invisionfree> unop: See above.
[21:54] <Draggin> ay^ I haven't tried that yet, I just increased the buffer size for now :)
[21:54] <simplexio> pcg|Raven-CSS: google finds many nice howto pages for it
[21:54] <Seveas> Draggin, you're hitting a bug in xaralx, not much you can do I thnik
[21:54] <ay^> Draggin: ah clever choice :)
[21:54] <n0ts0l33t> Seveas: there's alot there
[21:55] <ay^> pcg|Raven-CSS: I don't know what css is
[21:55] <Falling-Inferno> Were would if find my "Program Files" of linux....Im fairly new to linux and i have been trying to find were everything is in relation to Windows....
[21:55] <Draggin> Seveas - but it's a problem for me... This happens every single time I try to export a file as SVG - a function I need...
[21:55] <pcg|Raven-CSS> i think its the video driver and google isnt helping with my on board is the problem :(
[21:55] <Draggin> Maybe I should look at their forums...
[21:55] <unop> Invisionfree, is diversion.no-ip.org actuall resolving to the IP address of your machine?
[21:55] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, ok, sudo chgrp $USER /home/user
[21:55] <Flannel> !filesystem | Falling-Inferno
[21:55] <pcg|Raven-CSS> via chipset
[21:55] <ubotu> Falling-Inferno: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[21:55] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, after that it won't hurt to log out or reboot
[21:55] <hw00djohn> if i have a .tar.gz on my comp, how do i install it?
[21:55] <phish> I'm trying to download VLC and msttcorefonts but i keep getting "111 connection refused" How can i fix this?
[21:55] <simplexio> Falling-Inferno: application :
[21:55] <twistag1> bah i can't figure out what the hell is wrong with my university's DNS server. i can access websites fine, but if I try to access anything directly by the IP i get random websites
[21:56] <ay^> hw00djohn: you would untar.gz it and then compile it and install it
[21:56] <danand> Draggin - try command &> output.txt
[21:56] <Draggin> danand - that makes sense... Let me try that too...
[21:56] <Invisionfree> unop: I think so..
[21:56] <hw00djohn> ay^ i'm new to ubuntu, so i'm not sure how to do that. where would i find a guide for that?
[21:56] <byteflip> guys i accidently blew away grub by installing windows xp on my 2nd partition.  how do i get grub back
[21:56] <ay^> hw00djohn: I could kick start you with the unpacking
[21:56] <danand> !grub
[21:56] <Invisionfree> unop: Indeed it is.
[21:56] <Seveas> hw00djohn, in that case stick to packages from ubuntu and don't use .tar.gz files. What are you trying to install?
[21:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:57] <n0ts0l33t> is the /user literal or do I enter my user name
[21:57] <ay^> hw00djohn: then there is usually a README or INSTALL file that you can read
[21:57] <byteflip> rub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing
[21:57] <byteflip>         windows:
[21:57] <byteflip>         https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:57] <byteflip>          - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos:
[21:57] <byteflip>          https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:57] <FloodBot1> byteflip: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <unop> Invisionfree, that really is not good enough, that name could be now pointing to somebody else's machine and you're trying to log on to that machine
[21:57] <psycardis> pcg|Raven-CSS: have you tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304528
[21:57] <unop> Invisionfree, are you sure?
[21:57] <Triox> evening, I've been having alot of trouble getting my wireless card on my laptop to work. New at Ubuntu.  Anyone mind helping me out?
[21:57] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, replace with your username
[21:57] <Draggin> danand - nope, that doesn't seem to do it either, but don't worry - I've got what I need for now
[21:57] <n0ts0l33t> Seveas: no output
[21:58] <Invisionfree> unop: I get the same thign SSHing to my boxes IP ..
[21:58] <hw00djohn> seveas , ay^ i'm trying to install visualboy advance.  i installed using sudo apt-get install   but now i can't find it or how to open the games i have...so i'm going to delete it and get the tar.gz if i can figure that out
[21:58] <danand> Draggin - cool
[21:58] <unop> Invisionfree, is there a way you can physically get on the machine to test this user's password out?
[21:58] <Seveas> n0ts0l33t, good. It shouldn't give any. NOw all files in your homedir should belong again. Restarting will make sure all appropriate process are started (they might have failed to start because they couldn't access necessary files)
[21:58] <c0d3w4rri0r> you know, I'm having a bit of trouble with the installation of ubuntu 6 on my G4 ppc tower. I'd really appreciate it if any one could point me in the right direction.
[21:58] <Invisionfree> Yes unop, I'm on it now, I can't sudo in, and it says my password is wrong.
[21:58] <melani9> look!
[21:58] <melani9> www.HOTTIES4FREE.tk the best site for hotties and brunettis
[21:58] <melani9> www.HOTTIES4FREE.tk the best site for hotties and brunettis
[21:58] <a_l_e_> Triox: i also had some problems... but i've also read that the next 08.04 will be much much better :-)
[21:58] <FloodBot1> melani9: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:58] <ay^> hw00djohn: well if you apt-get installed it you could probably run it by typings its command in terminal
[21:59] <a_l_e_> c0d3w4rri0r: what kind of problems?
[21:59] <unop> Invisionfree, you are not using sudo here, you are using ssh, please do not confuse the two
[21:59] <hw00djohn> ay^ so, $ visualboyadvance something?
[21:59] <c0d3w4rri0r> The installer says it can partition my boot drive with out erasing it but when i try it refuses
[21:59] <Invisionfree> unop .. My password is wrong for both ..
[21:59] <ay^> hw00djohn: maybe, I don't know that app
[21:59] <c0d3w4rri0r> or rather the installation guide says it can
[21:59] <hw00djohn> ay^ thank you.
[22:00] <Triox> Well, I tried installing the wireless card driver with ndiswrapper, but it doesn't seem to actually install the driver
[22:00] <Invisionfree> It's the same password, same user, and both are wrong, unop.
[22:00] <n0ts0l33t> Seveas: k I'll be back in a short reboot and then I can get to the problem I've been working on ironing out for a month now:))
[22:00] <n0ts0l33t> thanks
[22:00] <unop> Invisionfree, the only option then is to drop down into recovery mode and reset the password for this user using this command. sudo -u <username>.  then typing passwd
[22:00] <sembo> hi
[22:00] <Seveas> unop, passwd -u user
[22:00] <GIn> how do you list all files in an ubuntu package (.deb ) that has been installed?
[22:00] <Seveas> :)
[22:00] <Invisionfree> Ok unop.
[22:00] <a_l_e_> c0d3w4rri0r: i guess you should first do the base partitions with os x
[22:01] <Seveas> GIn, dpkg -L packagename
[22:01] <a_l_e_> c0d3w4rri0r: and, then, you should use mac-fdisk instead of fdisk...
[22:01] <unop> Invisionfree, err, see what seveas said
[22:01] <sembo> did anyone install tobit david onto ubuntu?
[22:01] <Seveas> GIn, and if it hasn't been installed: dpkg-deb --contents filename.deb
[22:01] <c0d3w4rri0r> wouldn't that still erase the boot drive?
[22:02] <a_l_e_> c0d3w4rri0r: but i really really don't know what you have already tried... i use ubuntu ppc... so icould be of some help...
[22:02] <GIn> Seveas: I don't know where the .deb file is..  it is a application from the repo. it is called Putty
[22:02] <Seveas> GIn, dpkg -L putty
[22:02] <Seveas> :)
[22:02] <a_l_e_> ah c0d3w4rri0r, please always put my name at the beginning of the message if you want to be a bit more sure that you are writing to me...
[22:02] <Invisionfree> unop .. I log in, "module is unknown"
[22:02] <Invisionfree> And it wont let me log in
[22:03] <unop> Invisionfree, is the recovery / single user mode?
[22:03] <unop> this*
[22:03] <Seveas> Invisionfree, that doesn't look like ubuntu at all
[22:03] <a_l_e_> c0d3w4rri0r: and mac-cdisk shouldn't erase everything on your disk.
[22:03] <Invisionfree> unop, when the grub thing came up, I hit escape and went to recovery mode.
[22:03] <pcg|Raven-CSS> how do i tell what version of Ubuntu i have??
[22:03] <Odd-rationale> !version | pcg|Raven-CSS
[22:03] <ubotu> pcg|Raven-CSS: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[22:03] <c0d3w4rri0r> a_l_e_: I tried to use the GUI based install and selected use largest continuous space as the partition option
[22:04] <a_l_e_> c0d3w4rri0r: i would use the manual partioning.
[22:04] <unop> Invisionfree, ok, be honest with me if you have to, it's for your own good, did or didn't you reset the root password?
[22:04] <Invisionfree> unop: I can't, I can't log in to my box at all!
[22:04] <evilbug> how can i change the menu bar font (i'm running 7.10)?
[22:04] <pen> how to change the encoding of the filename in nautilus?
[22:04] <c0d3w4rri0r> a_l_e_: I tried that option too. I couldn't figure it out. everything seemed locked.
[22:05] <a_l_e_> c0d3w4rri0r: sorry, i can't see what you see on your screen...
[22:05] <unop> Invisionfree, that really doesn't make sense, you don't need to logon in the recovery mode, you are taken straight to a root shell  -- unless that is, you have previously set the root password
[22:05] <esurnir> question : when I see some stuff like pppd or pptpd or httpd radiusd the d stand for deamon right ?
[22:05] <c0d3w4rri0r> a_l_e_: I'll look up mac-cdisk in the man pages. it is standard isn't it?
[22:05] <Invisionfree> unop: I don't recall setting the root password, and it doesn't take me to a root shell ..
[22:05] <ay^> esurnir: most often, yes
[22:05] <a_l_e_> c0d3w4rri0r: mac-fdisk or mac-cfdisk
[22:06] <unop> Invisionfree, uggh, use a live CD, boot up, chroot into the system, set the user's password, lock root and reboot.
[22:06] <_avarner> hey
[22:06] <Invisionfree> unop: Slow down, you totally lost me .. this is server edition btw ..
[22:06] <c0d3w4rri0r> a_l_e_ right thanks. I'll just look that up. it might be easyer than the GUI in the long run
[22:06] <GIn> what is the fastest way to create a shortcut on the desktop from a program in the application menu?
[22:06] <unop> Invisionfree, same procedure
[22:06] <_avarner> so what's going on with my hardy install here? the thing has been freezing quite a bit lately. most often when i'm running firefox.
[22:06] <Invisionfree> unop: Like an Ubuntu 6.10 live CD?
[22:07] <ay^> GIn: ricght click and attach, if I am not wrong
[22:07] <_ZeuZ_> Any idea of how to install metasploit on Hardy???
[22:07] <dougsko> anyone here find that the init.d script for stunnel4 doesnt work? it actually hasnt worked for me since dapper, i always end up having to make my own
[22:07] <bgautrea> good afternoon everyone.  Has anyone run into a problem with apache2.2.4 not serving files > 255 bytes?  btw, it is a live session from 7.10
[22:07] <Starnestommy> !hardy | _ZeuZ_
[22:07] <ubotu> _ZeuZ_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:07] <unop> Invisionfree, any cd will do, but best done with an ubuntu CD, yes -- see this for more http://gentoo-wiki.com/Chroot_from_a_livecd
[22:07] <GIn> thanks ay^
[22:07] <Xristofer> I have downloaded and burned the newest ubuntu iso for desktops/amd.  I have an amd turion 64 X2 with 1gb ram.  When booting with the live cd, it loads after choosing to start Ubuntu and everything goes blank.  Anyone know what my problem may be?
[22:07] <_ZeuZ_> Starnestommy, no useful at all
[22:07] <dougsko> _ZeuZ_: no install, you just need ruby
[22:07] <ay^> GIn:  np
[22:07] <_ZeuZ_> that's what I was asking mainly... no metapackage to install it?
[22:08] <unop> Invisionfree, command to set user's password:   passwd -u <username>  # command to disable root's login;   passwd -l root
[22:08] <GH-VAIO> hello.. anybody here wanna trade shell account?
[22:08] <_avarner> Xristofer: don't really know if this is what's going on but the older installs for ubuntu had the option to change your vdeo driver
[22:08] <dougsko> _ZeuZ_: no, use svn to check it out, that way you can update modules
[22:08] <Seveas> GH-VAIO, not here.
[22:09] <Seveas> shellaccounts are very much offtopic
[22:09] <_ZeuZ_> dougsko: lovely idea, gonna do it now
[22:09] <_avarner> Xristofer: so that's what i would see... i don't remember it being there anymore tho when i installed hardy
[22:09] <Nith> how do I register a .so file?
[22:09] <Xristofer> I've download 7.1
[22:09] <Seveas> Nith, what are you trying to install?
[22:09] <Invisionfree> unop: I don't get that wiki page about chrooting in to it, can you help me here (This is a different box)
[22:10] <ablyss> Hi all, curious if anyone knows a quick fix for HAL failing to start during initial login via gdm/gnome
[22:10] <gregory> Nith: what do you mean by "register"?
[22:10] <Nith> Seveas: i've got e17 running but when I tried to use enlightenment_remote, It says it can't find libecore_evas.so which is in my path
[22:10] <unop> Invisionfree, what don't you get ?
[22:10] <Xristofer> I've also tried to do Ctrl Alt F1 and nothing happens.
[22:10] <ablyss> ... besides /etc/init.d/dcop restart
[22:10] <Invisionfree> unop: Everything, I'm a linux noob. Can you just tell me what commands to run?
[22:10] <Seveas> Nith, it needs to be in your LD_LIBRARY_PATH, /usr/local/lib is part of that for instance
[22:11] <_avarner> any idea why my firefox is causing my system to freeze?
[22:11] <Seveas> _avarner, you're watching fridge ads?
[22:11] <Xristofer> Anyone have any ideas?
[22:11] <_avarner> Seveas: that's actually kindad funny
[22:11] <Nith> Seveas: that var is unset, i'll set it in my environment. Thanks
[22:12] <Seveas> Nith, (you can also add the directory to /etc/ld.so.conf and run ldconfig)
[22:12] <unop> Invisionfree, i'm sorry but if most of the work is already documented on a page, you ought to try and follow it - i can assist you where you don't understand things but i won't hold your hand through this, i'm really sorry
[22:12] <_ZeuZ_> dougsko, so the only dependencie for metasploit is ruby?
[22:12] <Seveas> _avarner, the freezing isn't though -- try disabling all plugins/extensions
[22:12] <Seveas> _avarner, usually it's flash that causes hangs
[22:12] <_avarner> Seveas: ah! now you're thinkin' with gas
[22:12] <ablyss> i don't get any complaints from HAL when I login via kde/ so I assume its a gnome user feature.  I even tried creating a fresh clean user and HAL still won't start properly
[22:13] <Seveas> _avarner, high-octane fuel :)
[22:13] <Invisionfree> FFS, I can't get to the thing to boot from CD> ..
[22:13] <kindofabuzz> was that global notice for real?
[22:13] <dougsko> _ZeuZ_: yeah. if you want to use the database backends you need those too, but theyre not required
[22:13] <Seveas> kindofabuzz, from christel?
[22:13] <kindofabuzz> yeah
[22:13] <Seveas> kindofabuzz, yes
[22:13] <Nith> Seveas: that worked, thx :)
[22:13] <Invisionfree> OMFG FUCKING COMPUTER
[22:13] <Seveas> she's the boss of freenode ::)
[22:13] <_ZeuZ_> dougsko, wich ones for the backends?
[22:13] <kaf-laarous> #j/linuxac
[22:14] <Triox7> OK, fresh install of 7.10 on a laptop.  Wireless card not showing wirless routers close by.  Tried installing card driver with ndiswrapper, but wouldn't show anything installed.  Any idea why?
[22:14] <Invisionfree> Oh shush, I can get mad at this useless piece of junk if I want!
[22:14] <kindofabuzz> Seveas, i don't get it,  i'm already on freenode
[22:14] <Seveas> Invisionfree, sure, but you still should behave in here
[22:14] <dougsko> _ZeuZ_: well, it can use sqlite3, and mysql, and maybe something else. but nothing really uses them by default, its only really for it you are going to use them in your own programs
[22:14] <sembo> does anyone have any experience with tobit david?
[22:14] <Invisionfree> Seveas, it tells me to press F12 to go to boot menu, but it doesn't do anything, any idea why?..
[22:15] <Seveas> Invisionfree, is that an ubuntu desktop cd?
[22:15] <_avarner> Seveas: looks like i've got a release client of flash installed... guess that's a good guess... going to try gnash... yep. that's the plan.
[22:15] <Invisionfree> I'm trying to boot to a desktop Cd, yes, Seveas.
[22:15] <Myrtti> Invisionfree: is your keyboard an usb one and is it plugged on the motherboard usb ports instead of some silly extension ports?
[22:15] <ay^> Invisionfree: sometimes my keyboard wont register keystrokes during boot-up if I have it in a USB-plug
[22:15] <SunRayCafe> wondering if anyone knows... Harty Heron wiki page says it should be released "in April". Any idea of that's still the plan? Is there a more solid date?
[22:15] <Seveas> Invisionfree, you should simply select "start or install ubuntu" in the boot screen
[22:15] <chuy_max> hi, what filesystem do you recommend me to use in both Linux and Windows systems. I want to use the same partition to store multimedia files, but I've had problems using ext driver for windows, and I've heard NTFS drivers for Linux are not safe
[22:16] <Myrtti> SunRayCafe: sure it is
[22:16] <Seveas> SunRayCafe, in 9 days
[22:16] <Starnestommy> SunRayCafe: I think it's coming out on the 24th
[22:16] <Invisionfree> Seveas
[22:16] <ay^> chuy_max: fat
[22:16] <Invisionfree> I cna't get to that.
[22:16] <Xristofer> The ubuntu loading screen comes up, it starts loading everything and then goes blank.  CTRL ALT F1 doesnt work.  Only restarting the computer does anything.  Anyone?
[22:16] <SunRayCafe> nice!
[22:16] <SunRayCafe> thanks :)
[22:16] <Seveas> Invisionfree, that's the very first screen. If it doesn't show that, the cd is broken
[22:16] <Invisionfree> Seveas, it was my computer acting up
[22:16] <_avarner> Xristofer: you're in ubuntu in some capacity already right? if you want hardy why don't you just do a distro-upgrade?
[22:16] <Invisionfree> So I had to change settings to make it attempt to boot to CDROM first.
[22:17] <dougsko> chuy_max: you can also use samba
[22:17] <Seveas> Invisionfree, oh, *that* boot menu :)
[22:17] <Invisionfree> And so far so good.
[22:17] <_ZeuZ_> dougsko, that's what I'm using it for xD though I don't think I will require that, at least for a while...
[22:17] <Seveas> Invisionfree, so it's booting from cd now?
[22:17] <Xristofer> This is my first time trying it.
[22:17] <chuy_max> ay^, I was thinking of that, the drawback of it is that the HDD will get slow if I fill the partition, or defrag it on a constant basis
[22:17] <Invisionfree> Seveas, I think .. the screens black with a flasing cursor right now ..
[22:17] <Xristofer> I have vista on my machine now and was intending on dual-booting.
[22:17] <chuy_max> dougsko, samba is not a filesystem
[22:17] <Xristofer> I wanted to try running it from the cd before installing.
[22:18] <ay^> chuy_max: yep..
[22:18] <chuy_max> huh ??
[22:18] <Seveas> Invisionfree, did you already see the screen that says "Start or install Ubuntu"?
[22:18] <ay^> chuy_max: tho NTFS-drivers are somewhat, almost safe afaik
[22:18] <Invisionfree> Yes Seveas.
[22:18] <Invisionfree> Seveas: I think it might've hung from there, however.
[22:18] <dougsko> chuy_max: well not any more than is ntfs
[22:18] <Seveas> Invisionfree, ok, as long as the cdrom is spinning, it's booting. Sometimes it takes a few minutes
[22:19] <chuy_max> ay^, so far, I haven't dealt with using NTFS in linux, just read it's not safe 100%, I've screwed ext partitions when using linux
[22:19] <chuy_max> *dealt with problems
[22:19] <Seveas> chuy_max, writing to ntfs with linux is safe nowadays
[22:19] <ay^> chuy_max: I havent had any probs with my NTFShdd yet as of 6 months usage
[22:19] <blizzkid> does someone know een opensource meetingplanner (php) like meetomatic.com?
[22:20] <GIn> what is the difference between screenlets and desklets?
[22:20] <Triox7> Any idea why ndiswrapper would not install drivers for my wireless card in 7.10?
[22:20] <Seveas> GIn, screenlets are for compiz, you don't need compiz for desklets
[22:20] <dougsko> chuy_max: heh im an idiot, i was thinking nfs, not ntfs
[22:20] <psycardis> ok, night all
[22:20] <GIn> so screenlets run better with compiz?
[22:20] <psycardis> !bye | psycardis
[22:20] <kaf-laarous> i have an pbm with sound
[22:21] <psycardis> superactive: sup
[22:21] <tuna> chuy_max: using ntfs on linux is safe, but abysmally slow. Also, if you ever save a file with the same filename but different case, you are in for a world of pain when opening it from windows...
[22:21] <superactive> psycardis: Hello psy, what's kicking?
[22:22] <superactive> ok
[22:22] <Seveas> GIn, correct
[22:22] <superactive> The night is young, and the possibilities of Linux are endless...
[22:22] <ariqs> tuna: how does windows treat that?
[22:22] <psycardis> gotta work tomorrow
[22:22] <superactive> what do you work with?
[22:22] <Seveas> superactive, psycardis: this is a support channel. Offtopic talk elsewhere please
[22:23] <Xristofer> I have downloaded and burned the newest ubuntu iso for desktops/amd.  I have an amd turion 64 X2 with 1gb ram.  When booting with the live cd, it loads after choosing to start Ubuntu and everything goes blank.  Anyone know what my problem may be?
[22:23] <Invisionfree> !offtopic
[22:23] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:23] <Mactaylor> how is gobuntu more free than ubuntu?
[22:23] <tuna> arigs: when opening a file, it's a coin toss. When deleting a file, it always deletes both...
[22:23] <ariqs> ah
[22:23] <Seveas> Mactaylor, it doesn't include binary-only drivers or flash for instance
[22:23] <Senzations> s
[22:23] <_ZeuZ_> dougsko, lovely, this has gone quite well, I installed the package dependencies noted on the website for Kubuntu/Ubuntu (didn't have to do that on Debian) and it;s working awesomely
[22:23] <ariqs> tuna: what about renaming?
[22:24] <tuna> haven't tried
[22:24] <chuy_max> tuna, lol, haven't seen that bug, I'll try that one
[22:24] <tuna> When I realized I was losing data, I rebooted to linux
[22:24] <Triox7> Can someone point me to a website that can help me out with wireless card problems for 7.10?
[22:24] <Seveas> !wifi | Triox7
[22:24] <ubotu> Triox7: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:24] <kthakore> is it possible to upgrade to hardy beta using the .iso file
[22:24] <FotoPhocus> !wireless | seveas
[22:24] <ubotu> seveas: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:24] <_ZeuZ_> Triox7 I'll help you
[22:24] <kthakore> as my internet is very slow
[22:24] <Seveas> !wifi | LjL
[22:24] <ubotu> LjL: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:24] <Falling-Inferno> How do i download Wine-Doors?
[22:24] <LjL> !b > seveas    (seveas, see the private message from Ubotu)
[22:25] <_ZeuZ_> tell me what's your card, and wich version of Ubuntu are you under
[22:25] <daemon3> Rule of thumb for Ubuntu: do not mess with X.
[22:25] <daemon3> :(
[22:25] <kthakore> I mounted the hardy beta file but I want to upgrade how do I do thata?
[22:25] <psycardis> maxtaylor: gobuntu only uses things with gnu license iirc
[22:25] <Slart> !upgrade | kthakore
[22:25] <ubotu> kthakore: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:25] <psycardis> daemon3: agreed.
[22:25] <mactimes> Hi.  Is there any software like IBM Via Voice for Ubuntu?
[22:25] <Slart> mactimes: depends.. what does IBM Via Voice do?
[22:25] <Falling-Inferno> How do i download Wine-Doors?
[22:25] <daemon3> psycardis: I guess you can join in my share of X-ahces (variant of head-aches)
[22:25] <basso> I just made a big bobo...
[22:26] <mactimes> Slart: Allows you to control the computer using voice only.
[22:26] <_ZeuZ_> Falling-Inferno, go to it's site, download the DEB, and then do dpkg -i on it
[22:26] <daemon3> X-aches.
[22:26] <basso> I deleted my KDE4 "Taskbar".. how the heck can i restore it..?
[22:26] <Seveas> psycardis, no, gubuntu uses everything that's free, doesn't need to be a GNU license
[22:26] <Slart> mactimes: hmm.. there should be.. but I don't know of any software for doing that..
[22:26] <Seveas> basso, try #kubuntu if you don't get an answer in here
[22:27] <basso> thx..
[22:27] <Slart> mactimes: perhaps some kind of "assistive technology" app might do it
[22:27] <psycardis> !gobuntu | psycardis
[22:27] <mactimes> Slart: Hum.  Thanks.  I'll keep looking.
[22:27] <gregory> mactimes: so far there is no realistic substitute for via voice on the linux desktop, sorry to tell you
[22:27] <Invisionfree> Seveas, would you be willing to help me in PM?
[22:28] <lopin> I'm a bit worried about my desktop.  Yesterday, while my computer was outside of my routers firewall, I recieved a request for a VNC session, and I denied it.  Today, linux is running slowly, and crashing quite frequently.  What can I do?
[22:28] <mactimes> gregory: Not even similar?  I mean, if I can just speak to text that would be nice.  Like dictating to a text document...
[22:28] <f0rmat> cn it me made so after installing something through synaptic it doesn't just remove all the searches queried
[22:29] <tuna> lopin: first, see what software you have running. use "sudo top"
[22:29] <tuna> lopin: look for the ones using most cpu
[22:29] <mactimes> gregory: I tried emacspeak, but couldn't make it work.
[22:29] <gregory> mactimes: ibm made a legacy release of viavoice available some years ago, i dont know if its even available on the net
[22:30] <lopin> xorg, three pythons, xchat, and pidgin
[22:30] <gregory> still avail.
[22:30] <lopin> and compiz.real
[22:30] <mactimes> gregory: Hum.  I'll check and see.  Thank you!
[22:30] <allyunion> I'm having a problem with WPA2 -- the passphrase is correct (I checked it on the router) it seems to connect, and it says its associating in wpa_cli, but then it disassociates as quickly as it associated...
[22:31] <ubuntu> ok. I am running Ubuntu Livecd and i am trying to mount my harddrive. I ahve two partitions. one for windows and one for ubuntu. How would i list the different partitions and then how would i mount them?
[22:31] <Xristofer> can someone suggest anything???
[22:31] <Aeleon> I know this is ot, but every other room is vacant. I'm still having port forwarding issues over my vpn.
[22:31] <allyunion> ubuntu: fdisk -l
[22:31] <ubuntu> allyunion, thanks
[22:31] <allyunion> ubuntu: That's to list all partitions
[22:32] <lopin> tuna how do I see what the python scripts are?
[22:32] <ubuntu> allyunion, houw would i mount them? mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/folder ?
[22:32] <allyunion> ubuntu: mount -t auto <device> <folder>
[22:32] <tuna> lopin: look their process number, then look around in /proc/<number>
[22:33] <allyunion> ubuntu: If the NTFS3G driver isn't loaded, you won't be able to mount NTFS partitions
[22:34] <Senzations> s
[22:35] <lopin> I can't kill these tasks...
[22:36] <lopin> sudo kill pid, right?
[22:36] <Nith> kill -9
[22:37] <Nith> lopin: if you add -9, it'll kill em
[22:37] <lopin> what does -9 do?
[22:37] <Jeren> Greetings everyone.  Is GNOME installed by default in Ubuntu 7.10 Server Edition?
[22:37] <allyunion> lopin: Kill immediately
[22:37] <jk__> its sends a stronger signal
[22:37] <atomic007za> yes
[22:38] <allyunion> lopin: Essentially, it's telling the application: Stop whatever you doing, don't bother to clean up, just stop.
[22:38] <void^> Jeren: no.
[22:38] <lopin> it um...  started back up...
[22:38] <lopin> both of them...
[22:38] <atomic007za> actually I dont know I install edubuntu server ed and it was
[22:38] <allyunion> lopin: What's the script?
[22:39] <allyunion> lopin: Or process?
[22:39] <lopin> it just says python
[22:39] <lopin> 9071
[22:39] <lopin> there's also a defunct sh
[22:39] <zw3rch> hi i got a problem installing a *.tar-file - i have read the help and tried to install the build-essential package but it got a failure when loading one of the files from install cd - plz help
[22:39] <allyunion> lopin: pkill python
[22:39] <lopin> Tried that first...
[22:39] <lopin> I like pkill better than kill, so I did it first...
[22:39] <lopin> And, no dice...
[22:40] <Jeren> Void^: Just to understand the FAQ and what I've read correctly... I'd need to apt-get the GNOME environment for Ubuntu server, then?
[22:40] <lopin> I couldn't have gotten hacked, could I?
[22:40] <allyunion> lopin: Try moving python then pkill
[22:40] <lopin> Moving?
[22:40] <superactive> Boohbah: are you here mate?
[22:40] <allyunion> lopin: Rename python
[22:40] <allyunion> lopin: Do a which python
[22:40] <stalker314314> any ideas why matroska videos are slow (7.10, no compiz, all players)?
[22:40] <allyunion> lopin: which python
[22:41] <allyunion> lopin: mv <location>/python <location/pyt
[22:41] <lopin> how the hell are they still running!
[22:41] <lopin> ?!
[22:41] <allyunion> lopin: pkill python
[22:41] <lopin> I did!
[22:41] <lopin> They're not dying...
[22:41] <allyunion> lopin: Kill the defunct sh then
[22:41] <void^> Jeren: you need to apt-get whatever you want to have installed.
[22:42] <Jeren> I just had assumed ubuntu 7.10 Server would have a desktop environment installed by default
[22:42] <lopin> It's changing pids?
[22:43] <allyunion> Hmm...  Maybe it's a service...
[22:43] <allyunion> lopin: Look around in /etc/init.d
[22:43] <void^> Jeren: that's what the regular desktop install is for.
[22:43] <Jeren> Would a desktop installation work well as a server?
[22:44] <Jeren> I'm looking for an installation of Ubuntu with as little overhead as possible
[22:44] <lopin> that'd work great if I knew what these all were...  I can't tell anything legit from anything bogus
[22:44] <atomic007za> jeren: why would you want to install it on the server?
[22:44] <void^> Jeren: "little overhead" and "gnome desktop" just don't go well together
[22:44] <Jeren> Alright
[22:44] <allyunion> lopin: It just says python?  Doesn't have any indication what script it is running?
[22:44] <lopin> I have another ubuntu server, and it's using x, jwm, and dwm
[22:44] <lopin> no...
[22:45] <Jeren> I'm just trying to set up a Linux development environment.  Perhaps Xubuntu would be a better choice?
[22:45] <lopin> command is python
[22:45] <lopin> and then there's an sh <defunct>
[22:45] <lopin> and, I just saw it without the defunct...
[22:45] <mogwai> Jeren - use xubuntu - XFCE isn't that much different from GNOME - but it's lighter
[22:45] <allyunion> lopin: do a 'ps aux'
[22:45] <Jeren> I think I will
[22:45] <Jeren> Thank you
[22:45] <allyunion> lopin: Find out if there is anything with a .py with it
[22:46] <lopin> grep .py?
[22:46] <allyunion> lopin: ps aux | grep 'py'
[22:46] <mogwai> ps -aux | grep '.py'
[22:46] <lopin> it works just grep .py...
[22:47] <pharoh> hey,i use bittorrent to download...problem is,when its downloading,it'll go over the size of the file being downloaded..is that normal?
[22:47] <lopin> Most of them are my screenlets, but one is a Deskbar_Applet_Factory
[22:47] <CorbinFox> pharoh: i have noticed that happent o me before too, not recently tho.  Don't thinkt oo much on it i think
[22:47] <lopin> I don't remember installing that...
[22:47] <Xristofer> I have downloaded and burned the newest ubuntu iso for desktops/amd.  I have an amd turion 64 X2 with 1gb ram.  When booting with the live cd, it loads after choosing to start Ubuntu and everything goes blank.  Anyone know what my problem may be?
[22:47] <CorbinFox> Xristofer: on a laptop?
[22:48] <Xristofer> yes
[22:48] <CorbinFox> Xristofer: either way, try this boot command.  "noapic nolapic" and if that doesn't work properly (it disabled USB from working properly for mine) try "noapic noirqdebug"
[22:48] <titan> how do i know that my pc is using my graphics card and not the one built in to my motherboard
[22:48] <allyunion> lopin: Kill the process related to the Deskbar_Applet_Factory, and delete it...
[22:48] <allyunion> lopin: Might want to Google what it is first
[22:48] <Xristofer> its on a laptop
[22:48] <CorbinFox> Xristofer: before you start up the CD press F6 and it gives you extra boot options
[22:48] <pharoh> CorbinFox: but it'll download it right?it'll finish ryt?
[22:48] <Xristofer> ok
[22:49] <CorbinFox> pharoh: yeah, it should be fine, i think it is just a ranodm thing that doens't affect the files.  It happened to me before and i had no issues wtih my anime fix :P
[22:49] <altf2o> i know the 64bit versions, only while booting the live cd, would seemingly 'hang', monitor went blank & power led would flash. One day i walked away & came back to a booted up live Ubuntu.
[22:49] <Slart> Xristofer: try disabling the splash screen.. that thing hasn't worked for me since feisty
[22:49] <shelmar> !es
[22:49] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:49] <lopin> okay...  Deskbar Applet is my search...
[22:49] <CorbinFox> xristofer: then just type the noapic commands and it should work fine.  my laptop (im on it right now) works perfectly after that
[22:51] <titan> does anyone know how to check ubuntu is using my graphics card and not the one on my motherboard?
[22:51] <DarkLordVenom> if I want my image files to open with F-Spot instead of ImageViewer by default, how do I set that?
[22:51] <jrib> !defaultapp > DarkLordVenom (read the private message from ubotu)
[22:51] <antaios> hello.anyone from greece
[22:51] <allyunion> lopin: Well... those applets seem to be the cause of your lagging
[22:51] <Slart> !gr | antaios
[22:51] <ubotu> antaios: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[22:51] <DarkLordVenom> thanks jrib
[22:52] <HasanNoori> how to play an .AMR sound File that recorded By a Sony Ericson mobile?
[22:52] <Slart> HasanNoori: I think mplayer can handle those.. or use mencoder to convert them into something else
[22:53] <lopin> I've shut them off, and did some quick research into the sh
[22:53] <mogwai> or you could try vlc?
[22:53] <lopin> It's a zombie process, abandoned by a parent.
[22:53] <lopin> Problem is, I can't kill it...
[22:53] <Slart> HasanNoori: vlc is also a good thing to try
[22:53] <HasanNoori> vlc can play but no sound
[22:53] <titan> if anyone does know please PM me
[22:53] <Slart> lopin: if it's a zombie process it doesn't use any resources.. but they are annoying
[22:54] <superactive> How do I enable the System information? like I have seen some pictures where people have their System Info on the right sight of their screen
[22:54] <Slart> superactive: you mean like conky?
[22:54] <HasanNoori> mplayer showed this error: cannot find codec for audio format 0x726D6173
[22:54] <newbie> howdy
[22:54] <superactive> I have no idea what the name is
[22:54] <superactive> How do I get it?
[22:55] <Slart> HasanNoori: hmm.. I wonder if I had to install some weird codec for those to work.. can't really remember.. it was over a year ago
[22:55] <HasanNoori> Slart: ???
[22:55] <Slart> !info conky | superactive
[22:55] <ubotu> superactive: conky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.7-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 140 kB, installed size 472 kB
[22:55] <Slart> superactive: google for conky.. lots of example screens out there
[22:55] <Danish989> Hi everyone
[22:55] <superactive> yeah that's the one I'm looking for, how do i get it
[22:56] <lopin> Why would it be changing pid numbers?
[22:56] <mogwai> HasanNoori - try getting GXine -- it's in the default repos -- dunno if it'll work, but it doesn't hurt to try
[22:56] <Slart> HasanNoori: I converted some movies and recordings from my mobile phone about a year ago.. they were in 3gp and amr format.. I converted them to avi and mp3 I think.. but I can't really remember how I did it.. I think I used mencoder
[22:56] <Slart> superactive: sudo apt-get install conky
[22:56] <Slart> superactive: then run "conky&" in a terminal
[22:57] <mogwai> Slart -- if mplayer won't play it, the chances of it transcoding it are slim
[22:57] <mutk> titan, Elementary thing to check - Does your on-board graphics have a separate plug to the add on one? If so - the one you are`plugged into is the one you are` using
[22:57] <Slart> mogwai: true.. but I slightly recall compiling some codec.. or recompiling mplayer.. or something
[22:58] <HasanNoori> mogwai: low internet!
[22:58] <mogwai> hmm... maybe if he adds the medibuntu repo and installs w32codecs
[22:58] <HasanNoori> Slart: any suggestion?
[22:58] <Slart> mogwai: worth a try
[22:58] <titan> ok thanks, when i had xp I had to install the driver for it, I think i need a new driver to make things run better, its an ATI card
[22:59] <Slart> HasanNoori: try what mogwai suggested.. add the medibuntu repo and install w32codecs.. or w64codecs if you're on 64-bit
[22:59] <f0rmat> i really wan't to run a repository i got the repo running but unfortunately i can't work out how to add it to synaptic and the auto add line to sources list thing won't work properly
[23:00] <HasanNoori> Slart: the w32codecs was installed.
[23:00] <superactive> Slart: I downloaded it off the net
[23:00] <superactive> follow'd the install readme
[23:00] <Boohbah> superactive: i'm here now
[23:00] <superactive> Boohbah: Hello there!
[23:00] <Boohbah> how's things?
[23:01] <HasanNoori> Slart: i've low internet.
[23:01] <Slart> superactive: installing from the repos is considered safer.. but you can compile it yourself, or install a deb
[23:01] <superactive> Good good, since we don't wanna linger out of topic maybe I should ask you how do you feel that the performance of Wine in conjunction with WoW
[23:02] <Slart> HasanNoori: I can't really help you any more.. try googling for "amr playback ubuntu" or something and see what kind of hits you get... there must be something out there
[23:02] <superactive> SIart: I'm way to newbies to even know what you mean by making a deb :X
[23:02] <titan> A big thank you to all who have helped me set up my new Ubuntu PC, its almost all finished up now and I have been most impressed with the support. thank you all
[23:02] <proximo> if im not mistaken, i should be able to install ubuntu 7.10 from CD and then add "kubuntu" (read: KDE) from the repos, but how about the 8.04 beta, can that be added upon ubuntu 7.10 ?
[23:03] <the7thmagus> is it possible for gnome and Wine apps to share copy-paste "clipboard"?
[23:03] <cellofellow> can someone help me figure out why Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory insists on using 1024x768 on my 1280x800 screen? I set customheight customwidth r_mode -1 etc., but it still only uses 1024x768.
[23:03] <Slart> superactive: some sites offer a downloadable deb.. it's a installation package made for Apt.. basically like an install file for ubuntu/debian
[23:03] <superactive> Could you point me right at that?
[23:03] <Slart> superactive: not that debian-debs and ubuntu-debs are the same.. but anyways..
[23:03] <Slart> superactive: you've downloaded a tar.gz file, right?
[23:03] <DarkJustice> I have a Realtek alc655 ac'97 soundcard and I'm only getting 2 speakers to output, I've tried messing with alsamixer and kmix and can't seem to get it to work.. .I have pasted my .asoundrc which I stored in /home/DarkJustice (hoping that's the right place).. my asounrc is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63358/ ... any help getting the 5.1 channel sound to work would be appreciated, thanks
[23:04] <superactive> yes
[23:04] <Slart> superactive: unpacked it?
[23:04] <superactive> yeap
[23:04] <Slart> superactive: so you've got a lot of files in a folder somewhere, right?
[23:04] <superactive> Yes, that I do
[23:04] <Draggin> Okay... I give up... How do you install fonts? I've unzipped, copied, dragged everything I can think of a font to the fonts folder (after the first time, it kept telling me that it was already there and would be replaced), yet, I can't see it in the folder or in any program where I can select fonts...
[23:05] <Slart> superactive: ok.. open a terminal, change current directory to where all these files are.. and type this "./configure" .. but without the ""
[23:05] <superactive> yeah I've done that
[23:05] <Slart> superactive: did it work?
[23:05] <superactive> that was in the guide
[23:05] <LetsGo67> Here's the scenario: two computers are running Xubuntu 7.10 and they both have wireless cards.  I am using ndiswrapper on one, but not on the other.  The former has a signal strength of 4 bars, but the latter, only 1.  Both computers are at a 3 metre (10 feet) distance from the router.  How can I improve the non-ndiswrapper signal strength?
[23:05] <superactive> or the "readme" whatever you may call it
[23:05] <superactive> Yes Slart, it did work
[23:05] <superactive> I also did make install
[23:05] <Slart> superactive: ah.. so you've done make, and then sudo make install ?
[23:06] <superactive> what's the difference?
[23:06] <Slart> superactive: and what happens if you open a new terminal and just type "conky"
[23:06] <CorbinFox> is there a terminal command to see my CPU speed?
[23:06] <superactive> Oh holy mother conky pop'd up
[23:06] <mike__> so my ubuntu keeps randomly locking up on my laptop
[23:06] <superactive> looks real shitty though
[23:07] <mutk> LetsGo67, It is unlikely the signal strength is accurate.
[23:07] <mike__> usually when the internet is working
[23:07] <Slart> superactive: make compiles the software.. the resulting files are usually located in a subfolder to the one with all the files.. sudo make install copies the files to the correct folders in your ubuntu system /usr/bin /usr/lib etc etc
[23:07] <mike__> two lights start flashing adn nothing responds
[23:07] <superactive> ok
[23:07] <mike__> keyboard/mouse whole thing is frozen
[23:07] <mike__> have to do a hard restart
[23:07] <superactive> Is there anyway to make Conky look more.. "neat looking"
[23:07] <Slart> superactive: there's also sudo make uninstall to uninstall whatever software you just installed
[23:07] <mike__> is there some kind of error log where i can tell whats causing it?
[23:08] <Slart> superactive: oh.. indeed.. there's a looooong file that decides how it looks.. what it prints.. what fonts to use etc etc
[23:08] <mutk> LetsGo67, I'd ignore it in fact. You are close enough to make signal strength or the lack of it a real problem. Are both connections working ok?
[23:08] <Slart> superactive: try opening the file ~/.conkyrc
[23:08] <superactive> Slart: Goodie :)
[23:08] <Froto> I uninstalled and reinstalled ALSA drivers like it said to do here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 for the problems I'm having with sound and when I reboot, there was no graphics interface just a text interface.  I'm on my windows box because I cant use the ubuntu properly now, help, or wtf.
[23:08] <mike__> how do i figure out why my ubuntu keeps locknig up?
[23:09] <mutk> mike__, Lights flashing lockup sounds like a kernel panic/oops.
[23:09] <superactive> Slart: do I have to do that in a new terminal?
[23:09] <trippss> how come audacious can use alsa but all the other apps (presumably gstreamer based) think alsa is busy? f**king annoying
[23:09] <superactive> cause the terminal I just opened Conky in seems to be occupied
[23:09] <Slart> superactive: nope.. you can use gedit to open it "gedit ~/.conkyrc &
[23:09] <Draggin> So any advice on the font problem anyone?
[23:09] <mike__> mutk while it happens all the time
[23:09] <Slart> superactive: try pressing enter in the terminal.. you'll get a new prompt I think
[23:09] <mike__> after about 5-10 min
[23:10] <superactive> nope, just extra dark lines
[23:10] <mike__> ubuntu is updated to the latest version
[23:10] <LetsGo67> mutk: if I move the router any farther, it fails to connect.
[23:10] <Xristofer> This new version really claimed to be easy to install/use and did not follow through well at all.
[23:10] <Xristofer> I have had nothing but trouble.
[23:10] <Slart> superactive: ok, ctrl+c then.. should kill conky
[23:10] <superactive> CTRL+C gives me a prompt but kills conky
[23:10] <Draggin> superactive - press ctrl + shift + t
[23:10] <GIn>  is there an alternative to openoffice?
[23:10] <mutk> mike__, Sometimes the panic message makes it to /var/log/messages . Looked there?
[23:10] <Draggin> superactive - that'll give you a second tab without killing conky
[23:10] <mike__> ok
[23:11] <superactive> YEAH
[23:11] <mutk> LetsGo67, Which one loses connection? The one with the indicative low signal strength? Or both?
[23:11] <superactive> ./conkyrc ** no such file in directory**
[23:11] <Slart> Xristofer:  you mean ubuntu? on a laptop?.. yes.. sometimes everything works out of the box.. sometimes you feel like you're building the whole comptuer from scratch.. with one hand behind your back.. blindfolded
[23:11] <trippss> looks like i definitely need to reformat windows vol as ext3. last crash rendered all music that was in playlist as zero byte files . . . argh
[23:11] <LetsGo67> I am installing ndiswrapper, how can I discover the card model number without opening the PC?
[23:11] <LetsGo67> mutk: the 4 bar one never disconnects, the 1 bar one does.
[23:12] <ezquerro> hi to everybody
[23:12] <Froto> ok, what do you do, when ubuntu boots into a text interface instead of the normal graphics one?
[23:12] <superactive> Boohbah: are you here?
[23:12] <LetsGo67> Yo Ezquerro!
[23:12] <ezquerro> i have a question about the .cache dir in my home directory
[23:12] <LetsGo67> Froto: hd?
[23:12] <Slart> GIn:  there's star office.. but it's almost the same.. then there's abiword for word processing.. or lyx.. gnumeric for spreadsheets... no real alternative to powerpoint/impress
[23:12] <ezquerro> its size is about 7.5GB
[23:12] <Draggin> Can anyone point me to a comprehensive fonts howto?
[23:12] <Froto> eys
[23:12] <Froto> yes
[23:12] <Slart> !fonts
[23:12] <trippss> what's a good file searching application ala google desktop for ubuntu? i use tracker but it sucks at finding anything. i usually resort to find and locate regex but there has to be a better app
[23:12] <h_a_l> hello.  I'm having a problem with my X visual effects. they don't work, with a box which says the composite extension is not available.  Xorg.0.log suggests that it loads the nvidia drivers, and the Composite extension, but jockey says that the nvidia driver, while enabled, is not in use.  Using the Hardy Heron beta
[23:12] <ezquerro> how can i delete it when needed, or on every boot?
[23:12] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[23:12] <Slart> superactive: gedit ~/.conkyrc   check where the dot is
[23:13] <mutk> LetsGo67, Ok, checked the basics? The antenna is connected properly?
[23:13] <cellofellow> cd
[23:13] <mike__> mutk there are messages, but i don't think any are relevant
[23:13] <cellofellow> oops
[23:13] <adilson> can someone help me with mpd please it wont start with the default port can i actually change it
[23:13] <ezquerro> should i delete it, must be the question
[23:13] <Slart> superactive: files that start with a dot is hidden by default.. so many config files in your home folder usually start with a .
[23:13] <superactive> conkyrc is empty
[23:13] <Boohbah> superactive: yeah
[23:13] <Froto> i guess I'll just install ubuntu 8 when it comes out
[23:14] <superactive> Oh I get it
[23:14] <superactive> This is kinda like litestep
[23:14] <adilson> superactive: trying to get conky to wrok :D just managed to do so and se it up three day ago
[23:14] <MiddleOfNowhere> I need to know how to install ubuntu on an older pc that cant run the live cd
[23:14] <LetsGo67> I AM SO DUMB!  I FORGOT TO CONNECT THE ANTENNA!
[23:14] <Slart> !alternate | MiddleOfNowhere
[23:14] <ubotu> MiddleOfNowhere: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[23:14] <adilson> superactive: i cna help you once i get mpd out of the way
[23:14] <phish> For some reason whenever i start either Xchat or Xchat-Gnome it just closes a second after it opens :( How can i fix this?
[23:14] <superactive> adilson: what's mpd?
[23:15] <superactive> !mpd
[23:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:15] <adilson> can someone help me with mpd working please
[23:15] <ezquerro> anybody can help me?
[23:15] <Slart> phish: start it from a terminal.. see what kind of error messages you get
[23:15] <MiddleOfNowhere> Slart: I dont have a cd to burn
[23:15] <phish> Slart: ok
[23:15] <Slart> MiddleOfNowhere: hmm.. order a cd?
[23:15] <ezquerro> i have an oversized .cache dir
[23:15] <ezquerro> should i erase it?
[23:15] <ezquerro> what's its function?
[23:15] <MiddleOfNowhere> No other ways to install? network install?
[23:15] <Slart> superactive: mpd is a music player daemon.. like a service that plays music..
[23:15] <superactive> i use amarok
[23:15] <ezquerro> how can i clean it on every shutdown?
[23:15] <phish> I get Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[23:15] <superactive> pretty nifty
[23:15] <adilson> superactive: music daemon that can play your  songs over a server or other devices etc, low end in resources and seems to be quite good but a pain to configure
[23:15] <Boohbah> MiddleOfNowhere: you can boot from usb
[23:16] <Slart> superactive: so it runs in the background.. regardless of which user is logged in etc...
[23:16] <h_a_l> any restricted-drivers experts in the house?  Nvidia drivers are not working for me
[23:16] <Boohbah> h_a_l: try envyng
[23:16] <superactive> Oh that's pretty good
[23:16] <Slart> !envy
[23:16] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[23:16] <ubuntu> When does Ubuntu 8 come out?>
[23:16] <Slart> ubuntu: soon.. like in a couple of weeks or so
[23:16] <Boohbah> ubuntu: april 24th
[23:16] <mike__> how do i keep my laptop from locking up in ubuntu?
[23:16] <superactive> Slart: is there any help file so I can start configure my conkyrc file
[23:16] <adilson> superactive: http://musicpd.org/
[23:16] <phish> Slart: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[23:16] <mike__> right now my only solution is to use the vista it came with
[23:17] <superactive> Btw I'm so into this Linux community thingy
[23:17] <MiddleOfNowhere> command line install perhaps?
[23:17] <Slart> superactive: almost all linux software comes with a man page.. try running "man conky" in a terminal
[23:17] <h_a_l> I'd like to get it working "the Ubuntu way" if possible; using unsupported software has landed me in trouble before
[23:17] <ubuntu> how do i mount  a partition?
[23:17] <DarkJustice> I have a Realtek alc655 ac'97 soundcard and I'm only getting 2 speakers to output, I've tried messing with alsamixer and kmix and can't seem to get it to work.. .I have pasted my .asoundrc which I stored in /home/DarkJustice (hoping that's the right place).. my asounrc is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63358/ ... any help getting the 5.1 channel sound to work would be appreciated, thanks
[23:17] <Slart> phish: well.. that's not really something you can change.. means the program does something bad.. bad programmer.. to little coffee.. try reinstalling it
[23:18] <LetsGo67> This is a dumb question, but I'd like an answer anyways, please.  Will plugging the antenna improve my signal?
[23:18] <MiddleOfNowhere> command line install perhaps?
[23:18] <Slart> superactive: man works for almost all linux programs.. you might be able to run "man conkyrc" too.. to get specific info on that config file
[23:19] <superactive> ok
[23:19] <Slart> MiddleOfNowhere: the alternate cd has a command line install.. the live cd doesn't.. you can use a usb-stick to install from but it takes some configuring.. I don't know if there is another way
[23:19] <superactive> Before I dig into the Man pages I need to ask you another thing slart
[23:19] <Slart> superactive: sure
[23:20] <unop_> LetsGo67, if you don't plug in and antenna where it ought to be plugged in, it won't make a difference - so there are two answers to your question, yes and no
[23:20] <MiddleOfNowhere> Slart: how do i make it where the usb stick will boot?
[23:20] <MiddleOfNowhere> but.. does teh alternate have a gui?
[23:20] <Slart> MiddleOfNowhere: the alternate has a command line install procedure.. but once it's installed it's the same as regular ubuntu.. with gnome etc etc
[23:20] <Fatal_Error> nick <Synthetic47>
[23:20] <LetsGo67> Thanks guys.  Good day/evening.
[23:20] <superactive> You see i have this Soundcard, a Creative SoundBlaster X-FI wich I got for Xmas, It's a kick-ass card, but there seems not to be any drivers for it, do you think there's a solution anyway?
[23:20] <unop_> MiddleOfNowhere, well, it has a GUI in terms of a curses interface (graphics through the command line)
[23:21] <unop_> MiddleOfNowhere, just no pretty icons, and pictures and themes and whatnot
[23:21] <Slart> MiddleOfNowhere: it's just the installer that's different... and I don't know how to install using an usb-stick.. I've never had the pleasure =).. google might help you
[23:21] <mneptok> superactive: personally, a card with no drivers isn;t something i'd call "kickass"
[23:21] <mneptok> *shrug*
[23:21] <superactive> It has drivers
[23:21] <superactive> but not for linux
[23:21] <DarkJustice> I have a Realtek alc655 ac'97 soundcard and I'm only getting 2 speakers to output, I've tried messing with alsamixer and kmix and can't seem to get it to work.. .I have pasted my .asoundrc which I stored in /home/DarkJustice (hoping that's the right place).. my asounrc is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63358/ ... any help getting the 5.1 channel sound to work would be appreciated, thanks
[23:21] <MrGnu> hi all, I asked about this last night, and I was not sure how to best choose.  I have a built an Intel Core 2 Duo with Dual SLI , two GEforce cards in SLI configuration , should I do 64 bit Feisty or stick with 32?
[23:22] <Slart> superactive: creative are bad people.. x-fi doesn't really have any good linux drivers afaik.. to bad really
[23:22] <FotoPhocus> Anyone have any trouble with low sound volume in Hardy?
[23:22] <Slart> MrGnu: how much memory?
[23:22] <superactive> Slart: so I'm pretty much screwed?
[23:22] <MrGnu> six gig
[23:22] <Slart> MrGnu: 64bit for you then
[23:22] <mneptok> MrGnu: you want 64-bit
[23:22] <Slart> MrGnu: 32bit only handles 3.x GB memory
[23:23] <FotoPhocus> I've checked all the sliders, I can barely get an audible sound with all sliders and speaker volume turned up
[23:23] <nathan_> What package contains the "lex" console binary?
[23:23] <Henrik_> superactive, please have a look at http://connect.creativelabs.com/opensource/Wiki/SoundCard%20Support.aspx
[23:24] <unop_> nathan_, have a look on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[23:24] <jk__> i need with my sshfs, sshfs jk@192.168.0.3:/home/jk/files /home/rambaldi/Desktop -p 545 where do i add the nonempty mount option
[23:24] <Slart> superactive: well.. when it comes to that soundcard.. yes.. Creative got you good.. perhaps there will be drivers soon.. I don't know.. but those cards have been out for a while and still no drivers.. and Creative is busy suing people that fix their drivers on windows =)
[23:24] <tomtommy> is ubuntu out yet?
[23:24] <jk__> 9
[23:24] <MrGnu> Some of the charts showed no improved performance
[23:24] <Slart> tomtommy: it's been out for years =)
[23:24] <DarkJustice> I have a Realtek alc655 ac'97 soundcard and I'm only getting 2 speakers to output, I've tried messing with alsamixer and kmix and can't seem to get it to work.. .I have pasted my .asoundrc which I stored in /home/DarkJustice (hoping that's the right place).. my asounrc is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63358/ ... any help getting the 5.1 channel sound to work would be appreciated, thanks
[23:24] <tomtommy> Slart, so has your sister :)
[23:24] <CorbinFox> tomtommy: ubuntu is out, up to 7.10 and the newest is going to be out in just a little over a week
[23:24] <unop_> tomtommy, we're all using slackware until it comes out :)
[23:24] <Slart> tomtommy: hardy will be out soon.. 24:th of april or so
[23:24] <nathan_> unop_, yea I tried, but couldn't find it - a search for "lex" gives too many results
[23:25] <unop_> nathan_, errm, only 3. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=lex&mode=exactfilename&suite=gutsy
[23:25] <Rosenny> wow
[23:25] <nathan_> ah, exact filename, thanks!
[23:25] <jk__> i need with my sshfs, sshfs jk@192.168.0.3:/home/jk/files /home/rambaldi/Desktop -p 545 where do i add the nonempty mount option
[23:26] <superactive> Henrik_: Is that really the drivers? Oh man I love you :)
[23:26] <MrGnu> k
[23:26] <MrGnu> thnks
[23:26] <Itaku> SORRY FOR THE CAPS MY SHIFT KEY IS STUCK BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO WRITE TO A DISC AFTER ITS BEEN FINILIZED?
[23:26] <Slart> Itaku: nope
[23:27] <CorbinFox> My open office is being very, VERY unresponsive when im working on a powerpoint.  Right now it is eating up one of my cores completely, and when it isn't taking up near 100% of a processor it is being slow.  Is this normal? (I should hope not)
[23:27] <Henrik_> superactive, there is a guide for how to install it in ubuntu.. in swedish but ou can problebly follow the code.. http://www.ubuntu-se.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=24796&p=188822
[23:27] <Itaku> AND ONE MORE THING, IS THERE A WAY TO DISABLE CAPS ON HERE IF THE SHIFT IS STUCK?
[23:27] <Slart> CorbinFox: it doesn't do that to me.
[23:27] <Lainy> Hello, how do I permanently unhide a folder? The folder name does not begin with a dot (.), strangely.
[23:27] <Chousuke> Itaku: try enabling caps lock?
[23:27] <Itaku> omg it works
[23:27] <Itaku> thanks )
[23:27] <CorbinFox> lol
[23:28]  * mneptok blinks
[23:28] <Itaku> aah i cant use the other shift
[23:28] <CorbinFox> itaku: this seems bash.org worthy
[23:28] <CorbinFox> naw...
[23:28] <Slart> Lainy: I don't even know how to hide a folder without using the dot thing.. what file system are you using?
[23:28] <Itaku> go ahead
[23:28] <Draggin> Font expert anyone?
[23:28] <Rosenny> hmm, can anybody help me use wireless on ubuntu liveCD? I've read the manual over and over but it won't seem to connect, and I don't know how to use ndiswrapper
[23:28] <Lainy> Slart: It's in an ext3 partition.
[23:28] <node357> .hidden_file
[23:29] <ubuntu> if i wanted to get the bookmarks for firefox. where would they be located?
[23:29] <Lainy> Slart: But I downloaded the file from a torrent, so it may have been a hidden folder on a Windows box.
[23:29] <Slart> Lainy: and this folder.. it doesn't show up in nautilus? or how do you mean "hidden"
[23:29] <Rosenny> I have the connection set up, and it's in the taskbar, but it's stuck at 0% when I try to connect
[23:29] <Itaku> AAH CAPS ARE ON, THE SHIFT IS STILL STUCK BUT ITS SPITTING OUT CAPS WHY?
[23:29] <node357> Draggin, all I know about fonts is you can place truetype fonts in ~/.fonts and they magically appear in GNOME
[23:29] <Lainy> Slart: It shows only when I Ctrl+H to unhide folders.
[23:29] <Traveler8> hello all
[23:29] <Lainy> *unhide hidden folders
[23:29] <node357> hi
[23:29] <Slart> Lainy: and there is no dot
[23:30] <Lainy> So it pops up like all the other folders with a dot
[23:30] <node357> mv .hidden_file hidden_file
[23:30] <Lainy> No, it does not have a dot, strangely.
[23:30] <Draggin> node357, yes, I have them working, but what I really want to know is why I can't see the fonts I copied to fonts:/// in fonts:///
[23:30] <unop_> ubuntu, ~/.mozilla/firefox/<profile>/bookmarks.html
[23:30] <Slart> Lainy: that's very very odd...
[23:30] <node357> Draggin: no idea, sorry
[23:30] <sap> Hi, any ideas on voice-chat software to use , compatible with linux and windows o/s ?
[23:30] <Traveler8> after we get done with that problem, can I be next? please!!!
[23:30] <Chousuke> Itaku: funny how you still were able to output a comma properly :/
[23:30] <haywire> Hi there, I've got an issue - I need to somehow boot this vista recovery iso, but obviously Ubuntu won't let me open the CD tray. Is there any way of loading the entire thing into ram (I have 4GB) so I can burn a CD? Or, can I "burn" it to USB pendrive?
[23:30] <Itaku> WTF?
[23:30] <Itaku> IDK WHY...
[23:30] <Draggin> Anyone know why my 'invisible' fonts are working, even though they're invisible?
[23:30] <Lainy> Slart: The folder icon, however, is slightly dimmed like all the other hidden folders (which do have a dot prefix).
[23:30] <Slart> sap: teamspeak.. skype..
[23:30] <Draggin> Thanks anyway node357 :)
[23:31] <Chousuke> Itaku: is your caps lock still on? :P
[23:31] <Itaku> YES
[23:31] <Lainy> Slart: Any ideas on how to unhide this folder? None of the files within it have a dot prefix either.
[23:31] <superactive> Henrik_: So the asla drivers is all I need?
[23:31] <Slart> Lainy: can you do a ls -la in the parent folder and pastebin it?
[23:31] <node357> hope someone else knows
[23:31] <Slart> !pastebind
[23:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebind - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:31] <Chousuke> Itaku: maybe shift got unstuck...
[23:31] <Slart> !pastebin
[23:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:31] <Itaku> NO ITS STILL STUCK
[23:31] <Chousuke> in which case, disable caps lock. ;P
[23:31] <LjL> Slart: we aren't yet at the point of having a daemon for it i'm fraid
[23:31] <Itaku> ok disabled
[23:31] <sap> Slart, hmm.. teamspeak requires a server to be set up, right? or are there free ones?  regarding skype i think its not on linux
[23:31] <Henrik_> superactive, yes, the newest one have the X-Fi gpl included
[23:31] <Itaku> omg it worked
[23:31] <superactive> wonderful
[23:31] <Itaku> now i cant use caps at all...
[23:31] <unop_> lol
[23:32] <Lainy> Slart: What's odd is that in a console, it shows up without the -a flag.
[23:32] <Slart> LjL: huh? daemon for what?
[23:32] <Lainy> Slart: It shows up even with a normal ls.
[23:32] <LjL> Slart: pastebind.
[23:32] <Slart> sap: teamspeak requires a server.. correct
[23:32] <ubuntu> What does this mean? cp: omitting directory `/media/disk-2/home/zero88'
[23:32] <Slart> LjL: hehe.. ok
[23:32] <Henrik_> superactive, if you need help translating something please pm me ;)
[23:32] <Traveler8> after that problem could I be next? Please!!!
[23:32] <unop_> ubuntu, you need to use -R with cp to copy directories
[23:32] <superactive> Henrik_: You swedish to
[23:32] <sap> Slart, so do i have to set up one or are there some free servers i can join?
[23:32] <ubuntu> unop_, ah ok thanks
[23:32] <haywire> I'm not sure how complicated my problem is, more a logical one than a technical, really.
[23:32] <Itaku> where can i get more screen savers?
[23:32] <unop_> ubuntu, or better even -a .. cp -a /src /dest
[23:33] <DarkJustice> I have a Realtek alc655 ac'97 soundcard and I'm only getting 2 speakers to output, I've tried messing with alsamixer and kmix and can't seem to get it to work.. .I have pasted my .asoundrc which I stored in /home/DarkJustice (hoping that's the right place).. my asounrc is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63358/ ... any help getting the 5.1 channel sound to work would be appreciated, thanks
[23:33] <ubuntu> unop_, k thanks
[23:33] <Lainy> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63361/
[23:33] <zaraba> hiya - can anyone help with pulseaudio problems?
[23:33] <node357> Itaku, http://www.reallyslick.com/
[23:33] <Slart> sap: google for teamspeak.. they have a site.. the server doesn't require compiling or anything.. just unpack and run.. and a web-interface for configuring..  if you want something simple, I'd say go with skype
[23:33] <Slart> thanks lainy
[23:33] <haywire> All the bootable pendrive things I've seen are for windows.
[23:34] <zaraba> I have to close pulse to listen to Flash
[23:34] <haywire> Which is not an option, currently.
[23:34] <acomaco> anyone know what command NetworkManager is runned from?
[23:34] <Slart> Lainy: bah.. sorry.. I meant ls -la
[23:34] <sap> Slart, okie.  so what would u recommend better : skype or teamspeak?  I can try either
[23:34] <Henrik_> superactive, yes
[23:34] <pvalley> I've installed screenlets setup the daemon but how do I get them on my screen?
[23:35] <Slart> sap: I'd go with skype.. easy to setup.. lots of support etc
[23:35] <Lainy> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63362/
[23:35] <sap> Slart, sounds good.  So i just install the .deb file for ubuntu ? from here ? http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/
[23:35] <Traveler8> Can anyone help with windows drivers for ubuntu wireless networking
[23:35] <basso> wha.. i just discovered why KDE rocks on my small 12 inch screen.. :O
[23:36] <Xristofer> was was the boot command that was suggested for the blank screen i was receiving on a laptop?
[23:36] <zaraba> anyone able to help with Pulse?
[23:36] <CorbinFox> argh, i got a presentation due and open office is being as responsive as a sloth covered in clue tied down with belts to something else that moves very slowly.  Anyone have a similar experience?  Maybe a fix?
[23:36] <node357> !wifi | Traveler8
[23:36] <ubotu> Traveler8: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:36] <node357> I hope I did that right
[23:36] <Rosenny> CorbinFox: have you tried #openoffice?
[23:36] <ubuntu> Can someone tell me where i can find Firefox bookmarks on my computer?
[23:36] <Slart> Lainy: hah.. I just renamed a folder to that very name.. and now it's hidden too.. might be something with the "~" in the folder name
[23:37] <CorbinFox> rosenny: nope, not yet, but thanks i'll head over there
[23:37] <rogue780> does anyone here run ubuntu with a Via Unichrome II video card or the chipset CN700?
[23:37] <Slart> sap: yes.. or install from the repos.. don't know if it's available there
[23:37] <unop_> CorbinFox, i find problems with ooimpress if i use very large pictures and rich backgrounds, etc
[23:37] <unop_> CorbinFox, does it work ok if you start out with a blank document?
[23:37] <diagon> hey, are you in design? guess what, there's enough people in design. do something else. that's all, thanks.
[23:37] <Lainy> Slart: Oh that is very odd. Thanks, the problem is now fixed!
[23:37] <IrishDavid> hey, what terminal command displays available sound devices?
[23:37] <CorbinFox> unop_: i am using the powerpoint thing (i think it is impress) and there are good backgrounds and large pics...okay, perhaps that is it
[23:38] <unop_> IrishDavid, asoundconf list
[23:38] <sap> Slart, yeah checked the repos its version 1._   compared to 2.0-  on net, so i guess it'll be better to download it from the website and i hope their .deb is trustable ;)
[23:38] <Slart> Lainy: but now we've got a new problem.. why on earth does nautilus hide folders containing a ~ .. is that standard behaviour???
[23:38] <unop_> IrishDavid, on a more general basis, lspci and lshw also work
[23:38] <Slart> sap: sounds like a good plan.. I use the deb from their site myself
[23:38] <Lainy> Slart: Hmm.. no idea :/
[23:38] <Traveler8> Ok Let me re-ask my question another way.  How do I change the driver in ubuntu when it is   .exe
[23:39] <Lainy> Slart: That's worthy of a bug report, I think.
[23:39] <matthew> Scripting question: How do I make a script execute its commands in another window/ in the background? Ex: script does ./run_a_program_that_takes_a_long_time but returns a response quickly while the program continues to run.
[23:39] <sap> Slart, k ty, *runs off to install skype* :)
[23:39] <Xristofer> anyone know the boot command that was suggested for the blank screen i was receiving on a laptop?
[23:39] <IrishDavid> ok, i cant find what i need, what should i insert to Kino where it asks for Audio Device when default doesnt work?
[23:39] <Xristofer> using the ubuntu live cd, it loads then goes blank
[23:39] <Traveler8> bye the way obotu, thank you
[23:39] <Xristofer> i think the suggestion was something about usb
[23:39] <crazytalk_> if i import files from an old users home dir who doesn't have an account anymore, into a new users home dir using copy and paste, will this cause any problems?
[23:39] <unop_> Traveler8, you need to get the drivers in the form of a .inf and .sys file -- perhaps you need to unpack that .exe - try unzip and/or cabextract
[23:40] <Traveler8> yea I tried that.
[23:40] <sacamano> hi, random question. i just installed microsoft ttf fonts, and i think it made times default. does anyone know what font is defaul on ubuntu?
[23:40] <unop_> crazytalk_, it shouldnt do -- but you never know - so make a backup of the current user's directory first
[23:40] <crazytalk_> i just created the new user, new ubuntu install
[23:41] <Slart> sacamano: might be the deja vu font..
[23:41] <Xristofer> ok i guess i gotta start over
[23:41] <unop_> sacamano, try navigating to  fonts://
[23:41] <Slart> sacamano: but I'm not really sure
[23:41] <Traveler8> I even  tried ndisgtk and could not get it to load eother
[23:41] <basso> GOd save the queen!
[23:41] <matthew> Scripting question: How do I make a script execute its commands in another window/ in the background? Ex: script does ./run_a_program_that_takes_a_long_time but returns a response quickly while the program continues to run.
[23:41] <unop_> Traveler8, well, look on driverguide.com -- see if you can find the drivers in an alternate package
[23:41] <crazytalk_> unop_ ty
[23:41] <sacamano> unop_, ok. but its just displaying all installed
[23:42] <rogue780> does anyone here run ubuntu with a Via Unichrome II video card or the chipset CN700?
[23:42] <Xristofer> Anyone please help me with this problem.  I'm attempting to run Ubuntu for the first time today on my AMD Turion64X2 with 1gb ram.  I load the live cd and have tried safe video mode and changing vga but each time it goes to the Ubuntu loading screen and afterwards loads a few settings only to freeze.  Any ideas???
[23:42] <crazytalk_> is it possible to set system restore points? this is my third ubuntu install
[23:42] <Slart> rogue780: what kind of motherboard uses that?
[23:42] <Traveler8> thank you ubuto
[23:42] <Traveler8> and unop
[23:42] <AaronMT> Hi, I have a problem where my audio is very quiet, despite the volume slider on max and alsamixer PCM on max (red) [compared with Vista] - Anyone have a possible fix?
[23:42] <rogue780> Slart, the  VIA EPIA EX10000EG is the one I use, but that chip is on a few others
[23:43] <unop_> matthew, i dont think you can send a program to another window, but you can send a job into the background .. ./command &
[23:44] <carla> hi every1
[23:44] <matthew> unop_, will that make the command return right away? I need to start a program from a php webpage.
[23:44] <DarkJustice> I have a Realtek alc655 ac'97 soundcard and I'm only getting 2 speakers to output, I've tried messing with alsamixer and kmix and can't seem to get it to work.. .I have pasted my .asoundrc which I stored in /home/DarkJustice (hoping that's the right place).. my asounrc is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63358/ ... any help getting the 5.1 channel sound to work would be appreciated, thanks
[23:44] <Slart> rogue780: I have a mini-itx card from via that I run xubuntu on.. don't know what chipset it uses though
[23:45] <unop_> matthew, you should look into the php specific functions for starting processes/jobs -- i don't know php but the docs ought to tell you, also visit #php
[23:45] <adilson> yay mpd works still a few security bugs to solve especially with username but meh its  working music is coming out *its alive alive muahahaha* :3
[23:45] <carla> I just got this ubuntu working but I get no sound. I tried to help myself but without much luck...
[23:46] <matthew> unop_, I know the command, (its exec("commandhere")) but it will wait until the job is complete and in my case the job is a server application that is meant to run forever
[23:46] <Tigerplug> hey everyone
[23:46] <carla> hey
[23:47] <Tigerplug> hey carla
[23:47] <Tigerplug> whats up?
[23:47] <adilson> !sound | carla
[23:47] <ubotu> carla: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:47] <crazytalk_> unop_: how do i copy invisible files and dirs like .wine from one users home dir to the other? i'd like to copy everything. basically all i was trying to do when i broke ubuntu earlier was change my username
[23:47] <unop_> matthew, try exec("/path/to/command &") then
[23:47] <crazytalk_> i changed the username and tried to change the home dir
[23:47] <unop_> crazytalk_, cp -a /src /dest
[23:47] <rogue780> Slart, did you have any trouble getting the drivers to work? or did it work out of the box? I can't get 2d acceleration to work
[23:47] <crazytalk_> ty
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> carla, Fixing sound.. download this: http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh  #and run the script as Normal User... with this command: bash ./alsa-info.sh  ... then go to http://en.pastebin.ca/906336 and answer those questions ..  then  /join #Alsa and provide them with your question and a link to the uploaded file.
[23:47] <carla> ok thanx ubotu
[23:48] <g009> anyone use vlc to play divx in firefox
[23:48] <sap> Hmm..  looks like linux wants us to really learn the hard way..lol .  The skype I installed is having conflicts with the firewall (firestarter) and works only when I allow all traffic through.  Is there a way to selectively allow only skype to use the outgoing connections?
[23:48] <Slart> rogue780: it worked out of the box.. I don't know if I have 2d acceleration.. I use it as a gateway/server/firewall.. so I don't really need it
[23:48] <Tigerplug> VLC kicks A**
[23:48] <CorbinFox> sap: shouldnt you be able to just open up th eport that skype uses?
[23:48] <g009> it wont play divx in firefox for me
[23:48] <unop_> Tigerplug, sure, but no need for the profanity :)
[23:48] <adilson> Jack_Sparrow: 0_o what was that about, is alsa having problems
[23:48] <DarkJustice> I have a Realtek alc655 ac'97 soundcard and I'm only getting 2 speakers to output, I've tried messing with alsamixer and kmix and can't seem to get it to work.. .I have pasted my .asoundrc which I stored in /home/DarkJustice (hoping that's the right place).. my asounrc is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63358/ ... any help getting the 5.1 channel sound to work would be appreciated, thanks
[23:48] <Jack_Sparrow> sap, SOunds like you added a firewall and are not letting iptables do its' job
[23:49] <sap> CorbinFox, the problem is that it uses a random port because i see a whole range of port numbers it is trying to connect
[23:49] <Jack_Sparrow> adilson, If they have sound problems that the general help cannot fix.. alsa will fix them up
[23:49] <CorbinFox> sap: hmm, perhaps you can tell skype to use only one?
[23:49] <sap> Jack_Sparrow, no i learnt firestarter is just a front end to iptables
[23:50] <sap> CorbinFox, k let me see that one
[23:50] <matthew> unop_, thanks for the help, all I had to do was use your suggestion AND pipe all output to /dev/null
[23:50] <gokorn> how to see what graphic card do i have? i have ati but dont know what version
[23:50] <eTiger13> is there a way to do a mv * but not move one or two files?
[23:50] <crazytalk_> sap, once you install firestarter, do you not need to run it manually everytime you log on?
[23:50] <adilson> hmmm dont use my username on irc even knowing it got posted by accident
[23:50] <lesjohn> i installed firefox-3.0 but then set my default browser back to 2.0 because mplayer was having problems.  i'd like to set it back, but preferred applications needs a custom launch command and i don't know the right one to use.  what's the right way to fix this?
[23:50] <crazytalk_> because i tried to do that and it told me i wasn't root
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> sap, correct.. but if you had not installed firestarter .. and unless you needed to open up ports manually, there is no reason to do so... it would not be a problem now
[23:50] <gokorn> i have driver fglrx is that the right one?
[23:50] <sap> crazytalk_, no , only when i make any changes
[23:51] <crazytalk_> sweet, good to know, ty
[23:51] <Jack_Sparrow> gokorn, for 9550 and above yes
[23:51] <sap> Jack_Sparrow, yes that is right,  but I felt the default "open ports for any applicaiton" was too insecure so I chose blacklisting traffic .
[23:51] <Slart> well.. I'm off to bed.. good night everyone
[23:52] <crazytalk_> nn
[23:52] <sap> well, skype has option to choose port Only for "incoming connections"  and Not outgoing ones :/
[23:52] <gokorn> ok. what about wirelles do you have any man pages how to set up i tryed several programs from add/remove programs to set up wirelles they all see wirelles router but notting cant connect to it
[23:52] <eTiger13> is there a way to do a mv * but not move one or two files?
[23:52] <ubuntu> HELP. Where can i find the bookmarks for firefox?
[23:53] <eTiger13> in the bookmarks tab?
[23:53] <crazytalk_> ubuntu: under the bookmarks menu?
[23:53] <nickrud> ubuntu ~/.mozilla/firefox/xxxxxxx.default/
[23:53] <sap> I so wish they could use something like Zonealarm for linux  such that I could select programs to open ports for rather than ports for programs
[23:53] <adilson> hmmm bed not a bad idea especially since i have exams 2morow
[23:54] <ubuntu> nickrud, what do you mean /xxxx.defualt? my comp crashed so im on the live cd and are trying to save the bookmarks
[23:54] <invertedtwisted> is anyone here experienced with setting up xorg.conf and fglrx?
[23:54] <crazytalk_> sap, maybe there's an alternative to firestarter that will do this for you
[23:54] <nickrud> ubuntu it's a random set of alphanumerics for different profiles iirc
[23:54] <ubuntu> nickrud, ok
[23:54] <nickrud> ubuntu should only be one of those in that dir
[23:55] <twistage> Anyone familiar with iptables?
[23:55] <gnychis> how do you determine if you have USB 2.0 or 1.0?
[23:55] <nickrud> invertedtwisted if you're using the ones from ubuntu, yes.
[23:55] <Orbixx> Had trouble booting off Live CD. Would hang at black screen after selecting Live CD at CD boot menu. Removed "splash" and "quiet" from boot options, it works and I'm now in Live CD. I install Ubuntu to hard disk, and when I boot, the same thing happens with the screen, completely blank, but signal is coming through as my monitor is not on standby. Although, in rescue mode, it boots fine.
[23:55] <nickrud> Orbixx sounds like a vid driver problem, what  card do you have
[23:56] <sap> crazytalk_, i think firestarter  and guarddog  are two most common firewalls for linux
[23:56] <nickrud> hi Jack_Sparrow
[23:56] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud, howdy
[23:56] <Orbixx> nickrud: nVidia 8800gtx
[23:56]  * Pelo waves to everyone
[23:56] <PwrSurge> try vga mode or vesa driver
[23:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Orbixx, At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[23:56] <sap> crazytalk_, and none of them works like zonealarm unfortunately :(
[23:57] <Orbixx> righto
[23:57] <Orbixx> I shall do as suggested and return to report the result. :)
[23:57] <nickrud> Orbixx yup, do what jack says, then go get the nvidia driver from the nvidia site. your 8800 is too new for the ubuntu drivers
[23:57] <julle> i have forgot how to connect to a friends ubuntu machine via remote desktop, can someone please refresh my mind?
[23:57] <Falling-Inferno> Can someone tell me why my flash is corrupted?
[23:57] <gokorn> i have "ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 256 MB" but on chose graphic card there is no this version to chouse?
[23:57] <Orbixx> Much obliged.
[23:57] <invertedtwisted> nickrud, I'm trying to install fglrx. I think I've done everything right, but fglrxinfo doesn't say anything about ATI, instead it has stuff about Mesa in it. I started a thread about it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4723893#post4723893 , you can ignore everything up until the last post really. If you could offer any help, that would be great.
[23:57] <crazytalk_> sap, couldn't you look up the ports that are required for the app in question, perhaps there is a reason the developer wants you to implement access this way
[23:57] <Orbixx> Back in a few.
[23:57] <sap> crazytalk_, i checked the ports it uses and they are just random  across thousands of ranges :/
[23:57] <Falling-Inferno> Can someone tell me why my flash is corrupted?
[23:58] <Pelo> Falling-Inferno, what makes you think it is corrupted ?
[23:58] <ari_stress> morning
[23:58] <Heat45> #Bleach Fans
[23:58] <ubuntu> nickrud, what is the exact location of ~/.mozilla if you know?
[23:58] <ari_stress> can i "convert" my gutsy into edubuntu using apt-get?
[23:59] <crazytalk_> sap, nasty. let me know if you find a fix
[23:59] <nickrud> ubuntu from the live cd, it would be /<mntpoint>/home/<usr>/.mozilla
[23:59] <MrGnu> greetings Nickrud!
[23:59] <Heat45> any girls?
[23:59] <Pelo> ari_stress, yes, sudo apt-get install ebutntu-desktop, restart X and then chose the kind of sesson from te menu in the login
[23:59] <Daisuke_Ido> ari_stress, sudo aptitude install edubuntu-desktop
[23:59] <Falling-Inferno> When i got onto YouTube it shows a grey box for a long period of time.and i hear the sound of the video but when the video actually shows up it is Deformed.
[23:59] <Pelo> ari_stress, and once you've done that let us know and we'll tell you how to get rid of gnome
[23:59] <sap> crazytalk_, i'm not hopeful of the firewall replacement thing but i'll try soem other workaround
[23:59] <evilbug> how can i get drivers for my lexmark 2200 printer? i'm running 7.10
[23:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Heat45, offtopic