[00:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes. install edubuntu-desktop
[00:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you want workstation
[00:01] <ari_stress> Kamping_Kaiser: thanks. after that., should I change the apt-get's sources.list to edubuntu's?
[00:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> ari_stress, it uses the same repositories
[00:03] <ari_stress> that's nice, thanks Kamping_Kaiser
[00:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> ari_stress, no worries mate
[00:04] <FrederickJH> Can you do that if you want a LTSP server as well?
[00:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> ltsp server has a seperetae package (iirc ltsp-server-all)
[00:05] <FrederickJH> In addition to the edubuntu-desktop?
[00:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[00:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> i dont have an ubuntu box handy to check the details on though
[00:06] <ari_stress> brb
[00:21] <FrederickJH> OK
[00:27] <bimberi> !info edubuntu-server | FrederickJH
[00:27] <ubotu> frederickjh: edubuntu-server (source: edubuntu-meta): edubuntu servers. In component main, is optional. Version 1.47 (gutsy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[00:28]  * bimberi really should be /away but waves to Kamping_Kaiser 
[00:29]  * Kamping_Kaiser waves to bimberi , who isnt really there
[00:29] <bimberi> lol
[00:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
[00:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> annoying: (not your problem, just annoying) - http://paste.debian.net/875/
[00:35] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: rm texlive*   ?
[00:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi, removed all the debs and left that file alone
[00:36]  * Kamping_Kaiser is currently re-downloading 144mb of texlive-doc :|
[00:39] <bimberi> hrm
[00:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> fsck claims the filesystem is clean, and chattr says its got no special bits set
[00:42] <bimberi> it could be a nonprintable char in the filename
[00:43] <bimberi> compare 'echo texlive | od -bc'  to  'ls | od -bc'
[00:43] <bimberi> er,   echo texlive-
[00:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> they match exactly
[00:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> someone elsese advice ->  a) find the inode, b) use e2edit (or whatever it's called now) to kill the inode.
[00:47] <bimberi> sounds better than mine
[08:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> er... how does Edubuntu 8.04 handle what was formerly handled by .Trash?
[08:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> its "a bit screwy" whatever it is.
[08:45]  * Kamping_Kaiser doesnt want his *real* desktop deleted
[08:47] <stgraber> Kamping_Kaiser: it's in .share/something IIRC
[08:47] <stgraber> .local/share/Trash
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh yay. now removing garbage is a chore :|
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> stgraber, cheers mate
[08:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> how .. *amazingly* stupid :|
[08:50] <stgraber> it comes from a freedesktop spec IIRC
[08:50] <stgraber> probably http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/trash-spec
[08:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> at some stage i either created a symlink or dragged the 'places' desktop to my real desktop. now i have a "Desktop" directory in .local/share/Trash/files/ with almost a full screenfull of recursion
[08:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> back in the good old days ... ;)
[08:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> 509 recursions, no less o_0
[09:00]  * Kamping_Kaiser decides not to file a bug
[18:19] <melodie> bonjour, hello, hi
[18:20] <melodie> someone present ?
[18:21] <emil> hello
[18:21]  * highvoltage !
[18:22] <emil> who made fundamentals of unix?
[18:23] <melodie> hi again
[18:24] <melodie> please could someone help me install pysycache in Edubuntu ?
[18:24] <emil> da melodie
[18:24] <melodie> hi emil
[18:24] <emil> ce faci?
[18:24] <melodie> I did put these mirrors in sources.list:
[18:24] <melodie> http://doc.edubuntu-fr.org/pysycache
[18:24] <melodie> # paquets d'ofset
[18:24] <melodie> deb http://debian.ofset.org/ sarge main
[18:24] <emil> what's up?
[18:25] <melodie> and so on
[18:25] <melodie> and at the end of the install it fails with error message :
[18:25] <melodie> dpkg : erreur de traitement de pysycache (--configure) :
[18:25] <melodie>  le sous-processus post-installation script a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 2
[18:25] <melodie> I must do it again to have it in english
[18:25] <emil> melodie you know the course fundamentals of unix?
[18:26] <emil> ???
[18:26] <melodie> why that question ?
[18:26] <emil> because i make now the course
[18:27] <melodie> I'm just interested to get an application running for now; are you a person or a bot emil ?
[18:28] <emil> can you help me?
[18:28] <melodie> by doing what ?
[18:28] <emil> for my exam online
[18:29] <melodie> I'd be astonished
[18:29] <emil> what is that because i speak not good and the course is in english
[18:30] <melodie> yes but I'm french, so what's the point in helping you ? you are german or italian or... ?
[18:30] <emil> romanian
[18:31] <melodie> so why not search a course in your own lanquage ?
[18:31] <emil> because don't exist
[18:32] <melodie> then you might want to find people in your area able to help you : easier.
[18:32] <emil> i can't find
[18:32] <melodie> actually I'm interested in Edubuntu, otherwise you could try the chan : #debutant on freenode
[18:33] <melodie> good chan more people in the evening, nice for beginners.
[18:33] <emil> and there can help me?
[18:33] <melodie> try asking does not cost more.
[18:34] <emil> i think nobody make the course there
[18:34] <melodie> emil, you may think if you like to think. :))
[18:34] <melodie> don't know.
[18:35] <melodie> bye now
[18:35] <emil> ok c;est fini la melodie"))
[21:04] <RichEd-1> ogra: hi
[21:04] <RichEd-1> meeting ?
[21:41] <highvoltage> goodnight edubunteros!
[21:43] <RichEd> highvoltage: sleep tight ... you may think about a more popular nick now that escum is giving us lack of voltage
[22:59] <bj_990> Hey guys.. quick question
[22:59] <bj_990> is there a website filter for edubuntu?
[22:59] <bj_990> to make sure kids do not go to webpages they are not suppose to be going to
[23:15] <ogra> RichEd, oh, crap, sorry, i took a break while the new images were syncing, anything important from the meeting ?
[23:33] <lns> bj_990, I remember researching that and finding this, but never tried implementing it in edubuntu: http://www.digitallumber.com/willow/
[23:33] <lns> bj_990, other than that, I've had nothing but good luck from IPCOP + URLFilter
[23:34] <ogra> lns, apt-get install willowng
[23:34] <lns> ogra, oh! =)
[23:34] <lns> coolio
[23:34] <ogra> it is in ubuntu, but not complete .... it only does ur filtering, not the nice bayesian stuff
[23:34] <ogra> s/ur/url/
[23:35] <lns> gotcha... is that going to be something edubuntu supports as a content filter?
[23:35] <lns> as in a 'supported' thing?
[23:36] <ogra> i would love to, but it needs some care taking for the missing functions
[23:36] <ogra> its developer moved on and now does compiz stuff
[23:37] <lns> ah
[23:37] <lns> I <3 IPCop + Advproxy + URLFilter, though it does require a dedicated box
[23:38] <ogra> which is usually the right thing
[23:38]  * lns nods
[23:39] <ogra> but if you are short on HW and have a single classroom server only willow is a fine thing
[23:39] <ogra> s/only/only, /
[23:41] <lns> yea, you really cant complain when you have the choice =)
[23:41] <lns> Esp. when it's all OSS
[23:45] <RichEd> ogra: not much ... people just chatted
[23:46] <ogra> ah, k
[23:46] <RichEd> i'm off to bed ... we can catch up tomorrow
[23:46] <RichEd> so new attendees ... good signs
[23:46] <ogra> yeah, i still have several hours of work ahead
[23:46] <RichEd> and cbx33 was even there !
[23:47] <ogra> i saw that, sadly my scrollback buffer was already filled with the other two subsequent meetings
[23:47] <ogra> i'll take a look at the log later onight
[23:47] <ogra> for nw i need to get the suspend/resume kernel into the classmate image somehow
[23:48] <ogra> RichEd, would be nice if you could sync that once its up (tomorrow) the suspend/resume is quite fragile and should get as much testing as we can get for it
[23:48] <ogra> highvoltage, you too ^^^^
[23:49] <RichEd> okay ... i still hang regularly ... suspect bad ram like you considered
[23:49] <RichEd> random freezes
[23:49] <RichEd> does not recover within 5-10 mins
[23:49] <ogra> well, justin pointed ut an issue with the power manager ....
[23:50] <ogra> try if it behaves noticeable different if you are plugged into power
[23:50] <ogra> i bet it does
[23:50] <ogra> (the power manager stuff is fixed in tonoghts build as well)